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"zehnder bogart" Discussed on Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"Good at have been very good at maximizing the ability of the prospects that they do have and making them perform well beyond the projections that anyone had like Ryan Yarbrough wasn't supposed to be a really, really good starter in anyone's projections, but they figured out ways of maximizing what he was. So that's the task that now faces high bloom and the red sox over the next. Next couple of years getting past this hump where they're kind of having this open audition for starting pitching spots with guys who weren't in the organization one week before the start of the regular season in this. Weird. In this very weird compressed schedule scenario I. It's you know it's coming on the Red Sox to figure out ways of taking guys like Brennan Mata and like ten or how and like a bad word who was going to be in AA this year guys who are probably maybe a, you know who you project to be in the big. Leagues, sometime in Twenty Twenty, one and figuring out ways of maximizing their skills, surrounding them with the bullpen pieces. So that so that you can get something good, but you can't just. It's it's difficult to sweep everything under the rug It is a pretty significant challenge that faces them in terms of building out that pitching infrastructure. They'll have financial latitude. Theoretically we think. We obviously, there's a lot of unknowns with the financial situation of every team in this in the middle of the pandemic, but they should be able to start making some moves throughout this off season game planning for them in a way that they weren't last off season when they were only able to make the dodgers trade right before the start of spring training. So they, they have a lot of work to do I. Guess that's a good way of putting it and their fortunes for the next couple of years going to depend a lot on how they go about that work. I, kind of wondered too. If the ugliness of what we're seeing now will nudge them to being more aggressive with the turnover. You know guys like Brandon Workman, Matt, Barnes would be natural candidates that potentially trade mid but I. Like watching that game against the mets last night I was thinking to myself now that you have a universal de age and you know you're probably not going to be good for a couple years. It might behoove the Red Sox to start sending out feelers to other teams look jd Martinez in what What can we talk about with him other veteran players to facilitate this rebuilding process, which they're really close to the beginning of what do you think? I think that they're definitely going to be open minded about trading virtually anyone on the roster. Maybe you would. Maybe you would kind of wall off Rafael Devers in Zehnder. BOGART's is the two guys who are who are that kind of kind of cornerstones that you mentioned in. So I, think they'll certainly have to listen on Martinez, the difficulty for them is that, of course, this isn't just a you know there is a sixteen team playoff field this year, right? So like even if they look bad over the course of a couple of games, they still have that opportunity to maintain. Maintain some interest, right? They keep talking you know, I. The people in Baseball, keep talking about the obligation. They have to provide entertainment to to regions that have been decimated emotionally psychology to provide something meaningful, and so to go in for a to go all in for a rebuild in the first, you know in the first few weeks of the season You know that's that's tricky. Nonetheless, I, do expect that they're going to. You know they're going to have to listen to offers on JD Martinez at a time when when the market for his services is probably going to be greater. Than, it was certainly last off season and and last season So yes, I think that they have to be open minded and kind of clear eyed about where they are who they are, what they need moving forward and You know kind bloom was brought in with a mandate essentially or or certainly card `blanche to be able to try just about anyone he already traded mookie Betts. So I think that we know that that there's a strong stomach for for change. Two minutes to more for you. ZANDER BOGART's is one of the most positive people you meet and baseball is really telling the other day. When after a game he he was noting the problems with the pitching is quote was we were down seven. Oh? We just Kinda chip and this is showing the offense we have. Obviously, we got guys who haven't been swinging the way we. We know, we can that's going to change his team is just built. So good offensively. We proving come back. We're capable of doing that then he paused and he added I mean if you've got to score eight nine, ten runs every game I honestly think it's a little tough that felt like a window into the clubhouse for me when I, I read that what about for you? Their clubhouse such as it is one of the things we have difficult time making sense of how a team forums, it's identity and kind of does come together in the middle of this time. Yeah. When you see when you hear is Andrew Bogart's being kind of that despondent. He's he's a wonderfully candid person and is willing to He's willing to say it's true rather than what's necessarily politics But yeah. So when Zehnder said something about about the psychological state of the team and and the challenges facing, that's pretty telling. Last. One Tom Warner over the weekend. You know, we kind of took a shot at the dodgers. He noted in the aftermath of the mookie Betts contract. He noted that the Red Sox have won four championships. And he noted, the dodgers haven't won any. What was your take on that? I mean, look. There's a bit of defensiveness around the Red Sox. I think he's pointing out the fact that there's a long term track record pretty remarkable success in the twenty first. and they've been willing to make some hard decisions that at the time had a lot of blowback. But in the end ended up yielding some pretty good results, I think that that speaks to the that the red SOx owner at the ownership level and that the executive level recognized that you know this is this isn't an easy time for where the organization is but their their ability to adjust adapt. Adapt and remain flexible. You know one of the reasons why they traded mookie Betts wants to maintain organizational flexibility They believe that you know that they're well served by that and that they've taken advantage of that in the past and so they're they want people to trust in that track record even though the optics of trading mookie Betts, right before spring training. That's that's going to hover over the team through struggles. All right Alex great catching up. You wish you could see ya didn't have a good conversation, but who knows when that's going to happen? Thanks for doing this? Yeah. Up Youtube Buster. Good to talk things. Bleacher tweets. All Right, Boston. Couple of Legion tweets this morning, which I'm honored to be back to be reading the first ones morning comes from. Danny Suday tick. I Apologize Danny. Fi, mispronounced at decides to four wants to know, hey, buster. Do you feel that the anger against the Astros will ramp back up again, next year fans are allowed back into the stands and when Houston we playing the other divisions for the first time. Yeah. To some degree look. I felt this way I. Don't know if you do to troy. But I feel like as soon as the answers thing happened, that's something that they're going to have on their. You know it's like the the letter, A. ON THEIR JERSEYS, right? scarlet letter. That's something that's going to always be following them. In their careers. Jose Altuve, as going to be in his last year in the big leagues. George. Springer Bregman. That's just the way it goes. Fans are not gonNA forget, correct. Yeah. Baseball fans especially love to hold onto things and I and I also wonder if there. Who knows where we'll be at this time? Next year during the season will be at a point where we can have fans in the stands so that I don't even know..
"zehnder bogart" Discussed on Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"So I feel like the bullpen as really settled in and started to rumors as, as the strength that we thought it was going to be all right. Aaron boone. Good luck tonight. Thank slot. You want to send it back to the studio back to you guys in the studio, Chris, thanks very much. And here with Boston Red Sox shortstop, Zehnder Bogart's off to a great start this season. I remember the guy that debuted is a twenty year old back in two thousand and thirteen. Tell me what's different about this player compared to that young guy. Always said they play a little more confidence. I think I'm standing I'm believing that you belong here. I remember coming up as a kid, it was a it was still fleeing in front of a lot of people calling for the minor leagues. The only not a lot of fans compared to the big league state stage. I think it's all my career playing pretty important game. So I think that, that definitely helped and Phnom mush more at calm and ease and know how to go told myself tell me about the power and where the power is come from because you certainly now hunts and pitches. And that's lugging percentages up last year, career high and homers on bass and slug. I think it's a different mindset. We had once new hitting coach shame here. Obviously, before I used to be happy with two singles, the middle infield hits, you know, I think now it's more about driving a ball gap to gap when whenever have guys score was trying to get them and try to drive the ball to the gap got us much. Are we is as possible? Whenever have the chance to. What do you think? Swing it with a little more toady instead of just want to touch the ball chocolate or second base, and beat it all, you know, something like that. Just trying to swing more with with power. Lift gears per second. One thing I've never spoken to you about have always been dying to ask you, because I just think it's cool, your twin, and I it doesn't get talked about very much, but your brother played professional baseball as well. Tell me about that. How close you guys are at cetera. I think that's probably one of the best moments in my career plane with him. I hear in a Dominican suddenly a lot of people that somebody is not a big deal for me. My twin brother we grew up playing baseball together Domenico on the same field. I think that was probably the GM control and till this day today. Well, he he's probably my best friend, why we're so close with each other. And every game he hits me. All we, we talk every day. We talk every day doesn't go David. I'll talk in baseball life, stuff like that. So I think he's definitely wanted to biggest fees for, for my success in a big news obviously with him being a big influence last thing. The kind of the tables have turned is for as now the Yankees earned first place, and they've kind of stepped on the gas. What's it gonna take for you guys to catch them? I think we need to go on a big run. You know winning eighteen out of twenty somebody that we know we're capable of doing that. We have the team to do that. Same players. Same staff to just about all sets players going on to execute and playing as a team, 'cause play now we need Santa great. Thank you. Thank you. We'll be back in a moment with Todd Radim. But I, I wanna tell you about DSL listen up guys, if you bigger tall, you know what a pain it is to find clothes that fit so trip to DSL needs to be on your to do list that DSL big and tall is all.
"zehnder bogart" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Slash find us member FDIC Verduci, authored an awesome book. The cubs way. He has one of the best in baseball is all over TV rights and everything else and kind enough to join us now, Tom good morning. Thanks for taking time. We have one team on our south side that no one had big expectations. They're playing okay, but McConnell looks awesome. But there's full scale panic in Wrigley. Ville can you understand that five games in? I do understand it. You know, I wouldn't go plat out panic, but concern definitely is in order here. Because you don't be one thing if you had a bullpen like the New York Yankees struggling out of the gate, and you go, you know, these guys are going to be fine. We all know that. But we knew going in with this cubs bullpen at the first two months of the season. We're going to be shaky because you didn't know how those roles we're gonna shake out. You didn't know which guys you're going to have full confidence in which is you'd have to back up and in terms of levered situations. So you knew it was kind of a trial and error period. But it's almost all error at this point. That's why I would be concerned that you didn't think this would be the strength of the team, and you're sort of getting your worst fears confirmed Tom Joe Madden says give it a month for this bullpen to congealed into what it's going to become these subscribe to that sort of thinking or how long do you wait if it continues on his downward trend to make some drastic news. Yeah. I get. I mean, I really think. It would take too much. I said going into the season. Both the Red Sox were treading very dangerous waters where you're at a very competitive division. And you need the first two months of the season. Maybe the first month. But I think the first two months of the season to figure out what you have in the bullpen. Dad is very dangerous because going to cost you games you've seen it already at the end of the year these divisions. Whether you know with the Yankees and the the Red Sox and the Yankees and Red Sox or the cubs in the central and might come down to one or two games. You know, you may be losing division while figuring out what the heck you have. Or don't have in your bullpen. So I get it. You know, a lot of teams are in this situation. Early April baseball tends to be a little sloppy. I mean, colder weather not that. It's been that terrible for the cost. But in general early April, you know, coming out of spring training the ball a little bit Laker defense and base running and bullpen generally tend to be a little shaky, but I think. Going through right now, I understand that very very small sample. But there's no down my mind because odd to be concerned with what they're saying here. Okay. So they go to the post tonight. You Darvish gets his second start. He was not good in Texas. He had good stuff. Back. A ball was not putting play in the first fifty eight pitches, but wildness the shortest outing of his career the whole thing. Now, he pitches tonight. He doesn't have the relationship with the players and the other team that they said took his focus away if they don't win tonight. They go to Milwaukee this weekend heaven forbid, they don't play well in Milwaukee they could wake up Monday morning for their home opener seven or eight games back in the division already at that point Boyle boy, Tom Honey, not panic. Yeah. I well. I agree that Milwaukee's legit. I pick them to win the division. Nothing about what they did. Last year was a fluke. I mean, they were red hot the last three weeks of the season. I get it. But I love the. They've gotten placed their their young arms are really really good. And I know people don't aren't familiar with guys like Woodruff unburned their rotation, but I have full confidence. And then I know they do. So that team is not going. I mean there are ninety plus when team for sure I believe so. Yeah, you're chasing team. You don't wanna get too far behind because they're they're legit team. Darvish man. It's time to stop making excuses. I don't care if you pitch it against your former team. I don't care if the balls are slick the problem that you Darvish is that when things start to get off the rails a little bit. They really go off the rails. His inability to stop that inning to get back on pointly doesn't have a stuff. I mean, he's great as long as he's got a stuff, but the minute there's some kind of adversity thrown it his way, you know, it continues to go downhill that pattern has stuff Edwards in the bullpen, man. He's a he's had a crisis of confidence now for almost a year calendar year. What do they have in him? I mean, those two guys. To me have excellent stuff should be quality major league pitchers and something going on here where they're just not translating topics to the quality of their pitching, Tom. Tell me what we don't know about Craig timberland why he's still out there lingering around is he not as healthy as it's reported that he is what do you make of all this could clearly use a guy like this even come may. No. I don't think it's hell I think it started out that he scared off teams early on with a very high asking price. I mean, I don't blame them. He's got hall of fame. Tracking numbers at this stage in his career. He saw what guys like Janssen, and and Chapman and to lesser extent. Wade Davis got you know, he was looking at that that area of seventeen eighteen million dollars a year for five or six years that wasn't happening. None today's freidan climate. And I think a lot of clubs who had interest in early. And this is what happens when you throw a big price tag out there. You know, they get out of that. I'll end up the prices are too high in that store. They're gonna lead. It's not like he engaged the player and try to get down teams moved on. So the market closed on him. And you know, Craig is a very proud guy. You can say he's a stubborn guy and probably still be accurate. I don't think he's the kind of guy who's gonna compromise on what he thinks is with. I actually think he at this point. He has more value in. July. I think what he should do. Listen. He's not getting ready to pitch in April for you. Anyway. Right. He's going to have to go to, you know, extended spring training get some work and get some innings in. So you don't have able you need timber for the second half of the season. Imagine him out there on the quote unquote trade market, but as a free agent got where you don't have to give up talent to get a guy who can win you a pennant because that's what everybody wants this time of year. Right. They wanna lock down closer. Would you get the July? I think he should wait at that point the compensation pick with the draft goes away because draft already been held if I were having. That's what I do. I know that's not his drowsy. You know, I've spoken to people close to him. And I think he would sign tomorrow the deal is right? But he hasn't had the right number. I don't think he wants to compromise at this point. And again for him waiting is. Okay. I think it works against a starting pitcher like delta cycle but for kimbrel. You're not gonna get a discount on him. Because I think he's he's proud enough suffered enough to stay out there until July. We're talking. Talking to Tom Verduci. And I gotta ask you about the trend. David Bodey, the latest much much smaller deal fifteen million a couple option years he signs you have on the south side of the city. Eloy Jimenez, signed Ronald kunia, junior sides, Zehnder Bogart's, who's a Boris guy. Even has signed a big extension. What does that portray to other teams? Are they all going to rush to do this? And what does it do to the free agent pool over the next three years when the White Sox said we'll have money, and we'll be all in because they're not going to have to fight the heavyweights? Yeah. It's really interesting. What's going on? Here is now free agency is not attractive as it used to be and even with guys like Harper Machado who got their money. They came out of it. I don't want to say with a negative experience. But a different experience than guys like John lesser who was winding diamond couldn't wait to sign and find quickly guys don't like being out there in this limbo land of uncertainty for four months with even the star players. Did I'm still hard sign. So now, if you're a player and your offer security, and of course, teens want to buy up at least two free years on they extend you that, you know, you're not as not attempted to go out of the free agent market because it's not as tracked so take the security threat. The other thing that encourages guys to take the deal. Now is that that's a curiosity is really very good. The dollars were talking about now are still high that whatever compromise. If there is one that you get by taking security over that year to year, you know, try to max out dollars that differences so great anymore. I mean, you're still talking about generational money. For these guys when signing extensions. So what's happening? Now is you're gonna free agency will continue to be less attractive. But what's going to happen is you're going to have a couple of guys out there? And Mookie Betts is the next one. It looks like he's going to year to year the Red Sox can't get them fine too expensive. He doesn't want to sign one. He's gonna have a landscape to himself, and he's going to have a major bidding war. So the few guys do get out there who are star player artistic going to kill it in free agency. But you're not gonna be able to cherry pick and build a team multiple free agent guys anymore. Like he did in the past. Because all these guys are locked up through their prime years. That conversation took place earlier today on in company with David Kaplan. Be sure to catch cap weekdays nine to noon. You are listening to the post game show.
"zehnder bogart" Discussed on Boston Herald Radio
"Get it done with. How many starts have what kind of stuff? I have that. I expect a lot on my cell phone a lot better than that. Well thing about Chris sale. You don't after the game. He's going to answer the questions, and he's gonna take the heat. He's not gonna pin it on anyone else. He's going to say look, essentially sucked tonight. Any did? Yeah. And he always has done that he's always owned up to when he doesn't pitch. Well, even when he does pitch. Well, he'll say that he wasn't that. Great. So it'll defer notes knew that was going to happen then. And that's not the concern. That is suddenly he's going to be a bad teammate. Or he's going to be a problem outside of the at title locker off the field. But the concern with giving him the big contract before the season started is what Christian and I talked about earlier in the week was that. You just don't I don't get paying for guy. Who's got injury concerns before he hits the free agent market again, unless you have all these other guys that have come to right? But unless they just have seen the X rays all of that and said, this guy's healthiest can be, you know, maybe it's a mechanical issue. It's an issue of where he's he's trying to be a different type of pitcher going forward. Earlier in the week. We talked about throwing the different catchers. And it doesn't really matter with Chris sale. Whether it's you know, sandy Leon who's in Pawtucket right now or Christian Vasquez. Here's his numbers last year with the two catches in eighteen starts throwing the sandy Leon his era was two point four nine starts throwing to Christian Vasquez so half as many as through the sandy Leon is the IRA was two point two seven, no difference. Really? They book ten percent difference in the thing with sale. Maybe he's going to have to just as he gets a little bit older. We know he doesn't look at the scouting reports. He just goes out there and trust the catcher, maybe at some point. He's going to have to be a little bit more involved with that rather. Than trusting the catcher in and maybe just having more of a game plan. Then just see what numbers put down by the catcher. And then go from there. Maybe that's part of the adjustment as he turns thirty and a couple of days. We're actually I think he turns thirty tomorrow. Yeah. In my old happy birthday, Chris by we'll be able to go to I guess, right? But the thing with the whole thing, and I do agree with jet is like I'd rather spend twenty extra million dollars at the end of the season. They cost one hundred forty five million of you can't pitch. Well for the next five years. Yup. Yeah. I think that's that's just good business in my mind. And especially with keeping in mind all these players that you have to want to resign that why take the risk that. The money's going to be a waste of money potentially. I was I'm just I'm a huge fan of Chris sale of a player, but the extension. I didn't see the business sense in doing that. So I think it's an over reaction to what happened with John Lester, and we also have -solutely courses, and we also have Portillo out there who's upset apparently because he wasn't offered a contract and wanted to get one before the season starts, and they didn't talk to them at all. So. Portillo is not the pitcher Cornell is but he doesn't have any injury concerns. Really? And he's a workhorse to me is the guy you stick in as you number three starter if he's your number three starter, and he goes out and gives you two hundred innings low four ERA perfect three starter. You're going to be contending team sale is the guy obviously who's lights out when he is the way I look at it is I I have no problem signing pitchers into their thirties. The Red Sox were posed like different pitchers pitch better than they pitched in there. I don't like the concept of extending a pitcher into into his thirties while he's not even thirty turns out saying you're extending him into his he's already on the team. If you hit freeze you're saying if if Priscilla never pitched here that you would sign him as a free agent at the end of the. Yeah, I prefer I prefer that. I think I think you're better off signing the guy, you know, I I like extending guy I every day players. I think that's the a pitcher. Because well, they should have extended John Lester in two thousand fourteen right? That would have worked up. Yeah. I guess they should have the thing is there's so much risk here though, that I it seemed like needless risks. What when it comes to a pitcher or pitcher of this ilk, you know, that this guy can pitch in the market, right? You still don't know if David price could pitch in this market, except that David price may be the rarity who doesn't like pitching here, but he's still pitches. Affectively? Let's he's insane. Pitching's markets all about his girl -bility. So that's why I don't get the the huge financial commitment to him before you had to make an Portillo obviously say, hey, I've been to I'm not Chris sale Cy Young award. But I'm not Chris sale amount at that upper echelon, but I've been a pretty good soldier here pitching out of the bullpen as they all did last year. I mean, it was just come by with with that pitching staff. Gen I think is the worst part of it is you have to pay an extra fifteen million dollars to Chris sale. It's worth it to me if he pitches. Well this year hold on hold on. Wait the guy. That's my whole thing. I will never understand why. Well, I guess I understand it is because of John Lester, I didn't John Henry is basically said as much. Yeah. Now again, I think jets right? It's an overreaction to not having less than that. This is the the theory of oatmeal when you first making it's way too hot. You can't eat it in you, wait a few minutes. Then it's too cold. The same thing happens with sports teams the thing about and I'll bring Bill ballot check into this. Because he's the guy won six championships. He falls in love with players. He never falls in love players. There's a difference. Now again baseball completely different than based football completely different. You just can't compare the two the contracts guaranteed and everyday players assigning for what ten twelve thirteen years pitchers. Five years does make more sense. I just think that with sale does some adjustment there. Maybe there was some pressure on him last night to try to prove the contract that he was worth it. That's not good though. In poorly personality, right? I mean, I get that feeling with David price. He's almost like I'll give you the middle finger. I'm I'm here with Chris sale. I think he's like the guy that wants to prove his worth. And maybe it's just a one off, and he's just was too much pressure. He didn't have the control that he normally has because that's within the strike zone as great as he is you still have to have control these major league hitters, and then he hits someone which is always troubling sign because this guy has pinpoint control. He's got the best strikeout-to-walk ratio in the history of the sport five and a half strikeouts. To a walk is phenomenal. Ultimately, I think he's going to have statistically a very good year. I'm not gonna write him off to one start thing. That's that's foolish, but I'm not gonna come back from the timing of the extension to me being a bad idea. I again, Christian was saying, I'd rather if you Cosby yourself an extra fifteen million because you get a great year out of the picture and he hits free agency because he picks. Excellent. Then it costs you an extra fifteen. Million. But if you keep breaks down down the stretch say he needs Tommy, John or he cares. Yeah. You're paying for insurance. So that costs cost one hundred and forty five billion dollars. I can't understand about baseball negotiations. Right. It's like, you know, we need this deal done before the season. We're not going to negotiate during the why why it makes no sense. I mean, the players go wrong arms tactic. It is. And if you're an elite player really any player in baseball, right? I mean, Zehnder Bogart's has Scott Boris is his agent. Do you think that Zanna Bogart's is going to sit in on the negotiations? Now, he's paying Scott Boras four percent of the total deal to do that to push back against the organization because it gets ugly negotiations. Yeah. The Red Sox are gonna say get hurt you want twenty eight million a year. Well, you know what you're the third best shortstop in the American League. You're not as good as Francisco Lindo you not as good as Carlos Correa. We're going off you twenty five million Boris has to push back. The player doesn't want to be involved in that now. So why the team doesn't want the player to be absolutely? Because there's going to be hurt feelings arbitration can get ugly. Yeah. So at that point, I don't understand why team say well. We're not going to negotiate till after the season. Like, there's a six month window here where whether it was Chris sale or Zander Bogart's or Mookie Betts if you can get a deal done get it done in June. It doesn't have to be in March right again, it shouldn't distract the player. You talking to the agent. The the player. I mean. But it's not like he's taking. Well, okay. I got you can't do batting practice today. Got we got do contract. Yes, sit out, although if you're close to signing a deal, you may pull them out of the lineup that just as a precautionary measure than pitching spring training last spring training. I right. Yeah. Well, that's about what it is. Because you're talking about maybe ten percent right because it's a hundred and forty five million dollar contract. You're thinking if sale pitches this year and goes out there and gives you two hundred innings in his Chris sale that it's probably gonna cost you more like one hundred sixty million over five years rather than one forty five. So it's about ten percent difference in the contract. But again that money can be used elsewhere. If it works out that you've got the right deal. And I can work to baby. Improve your bullpen. Also petrified. He would go to the Yankees. I think that's always the specter with anybody from here and especially pitcher right now. That's what they mean. Left-handed pitcher. Yeah. You put Chris. That's the Jerry tapper take, obviously, this is really hot take. If you take sale put him on the Yankees, the Yankees become a clear favourite to win the American League provided he's healthy and pitching for the past two three years. That's what they've been missing frontline starter. Severino is not reliable enough. Well, they still could have waited till August September part of the season was going four months, whatever they don't seem to want to do that seemed not. But if they do in the willing to talk throughout the season..
"zehnder bogart" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"No, Mike today. Instead, you've got John jastremski in me Evan Roberts. How you doing? And on this Tuesday. The long baseball national nightmare has ended because Manny Machado just a few hours ago. I don't know who reported it first Rosenthal Heyman. One of these guys. Jeff passan was the Jeff passan. We don't like to speak Jeff passes name since he sold us out. He won't talk to us anymore. But Jeff passan drop the bomb that Manny Machado JJ got a ten year three hundred million dollar deal with the San Diego Padres. And you're one of the Yankee fans that didn't want him. So this is a happy day for you. Absolutely. And I had a little extra pep in my step when I was walking through the streets to Brooklyn drinking. My coffee is coming in here to do a radio show because now we can finally put to bed too ridiculous narrative Yankee fans wanted to bring to the table that the and Machado. I mean, maybe missing a memo here Evan, but I see you studied shortstop and Didi gregorius. I see a guy who was the runner up for rookie of the year at their base. Mckellen do har- clever Torres its second and all star. And I understand he's not coming back to August. And you know in the short term it may be DJ quaver short. Maybe it's going to be tool, whiskey if there I say could stay on the field. But I always looked at Machado was a guy for an eight nine ten year. Commitment was not an assessing. So yeah, I'm a okay with the idea now that Manny Machado steak downstairs Padres you. You're right. We use the word need. But there have been many times over the decades and over the years even last year was John Carlos Stanton were the Yankees will acquire a guy. They don't need bought because it makes them better. Manny Machado would obviously make the Yankees. But how much better I mean? How how do you define it? What he want to break out war to figure it out. I'm Chuck championship is Manny Machado gonna break. Make. Donald J one guy, and I think we agree on this does not make or break a championship usually. Okay. Unless that guy has a torrid October. This isn't the NBA one guy usually doesn't put you completely over the top. But Manny Machado would have made them better Giancarlo Stanton made them better last year despite him not living up to expectations was he a perfect team. He wasn't. And I think part of why I understand I actually do understand. Why you don't want to be is because what you've pointed out or reasons that are very valid? I've heard people point out reasons that have been anti Manny Machado that I never thought about hustle because you can always here. I have a problem with shot. He fifteen beautiful, you know, you hit on. And I always thought that this is a big factor for why certain Yankee fans wouldn't want Manny Machado, and that's DVD's your guy. And you look at Didi you see guy that's gotten better every single year. He's been here. Which is true. You see a guy that's more than just a numbers. He's a heart guy. Is a part of the core of this baseball team. He's a leader. Which is all true. And while he's really good. He's not as good as Manny Machado angry. That's fine. Look Derek jeeter in his prime. It's kind of similar so I understand you saying. Yeah. Part of why they want Manny is where does that leave DD because the truth was if they signed Manny Machado this year in the short term to fill in for the long term answer met Didi was gone or do hor was going to be traded in either scenario is not ideal. So I understood your point in not wanting the guy from that standpoint. He still a really good baseball agree with that. And that's why I think the San Diego Padres, you're a team that's dying to be relevant. You're a team that's dying to make a splash. I understand why the Padres with their wounded phone system said we're willing to go the extra mile there. A team that needs that sort of peace. The White Sox were a team in my opinion that needed that sort of peace the Yankees did not. And I always looked at it. Evan and I told you this yesterday if there was a big guy to go after for the Yankees, I always thought the bigger complaint was hopper because you look at left field right now. Brett Gardner stopgap. He's not a poet of the Walter Famer long term in that outfield. There are more questions, you know, right now when you look at the Yankee infield, not just in the short term, but in the long term, you got three guys that could hold down positions for the next eight years McGill and do horror third Didi gregorius if they re signed a matured stop, glacier tours at second. First base is a different story that has more questions, but you have third base shortstop and second base that could be held down by those guys for the next eight years. The outfield is more questions. The outfield has Aaron judge and the outfielder Giancarlo Stanton. That's it. Aaron Hicks is a free agent at the end of the year. And I think you'd agree. And I think most gangqi fans would agree that they'd be more of a priority on keeping Didi. Then there would be no question. Right. And you in on it with Brett Gardner is nothing more than a gap. So Harper's a better fit not just because of the lefty thing. But because the outfield has just more questions long-term, then the infield does because we just laid it out if things go according to plan glaciers the second baseman for the next decade. And do harm and he will improve at third base. I'm confident in that. Because he's putting the work in that's half the battle. He's going to be your third baseman for the next ten years, and assuming they resigned DD, which I believe they will now unless they want to go after Zehnder Bogart's, which I doubt they will do better. Well, no. He's your guy, and he's left handed. Those are the two big factors. Like, he's better for you. He's not better. He's better for you. And that's fine. He's left handed, and he's your guy. Guess what happens is better for a Yankee fan that subset today? Here's what I'm going to ask him to very simple question. Are you cool? Are you confident in and do Har de Torres for the years to come? And my answer is. Yes, I'm very very confident in all three of those players to the point you made on different which I like, very, yes. Got that flash. Who is game. Which you like you saw why he was one of the top five prospects in baseball and do is like a Sewri on. And I don't want to compare them this guy because your whole favorites on fair, but a bad ball hitter in the way that Vlad Guerrero was bad ball hitter. And you know, what this Yankee wind up could use a guy like that. That's okay. In a lot of that has a lot of high on base guys. You know, maybe some guys who don't have the highest batting averages. I'm okay with it and do Hart being that guy and Didi with the intangibles and the leadership and the big game ability and the left handed swing. That's the ideal third short second infield that I'm looking for fiesta come. That's why I've always said my shadow now. Great player. Great town wanted a tough fifteen twenty players in the sport. Eat deserves the money. Don't get me wrong. I said he deserves the money just finished Yankee wasn't a need. That's why I think that's fair to say they never needed Manny Machado. They don't need Bryce Harper. But does it make you better? Could you have done creative things? Like, a maybe Miguel and do Harza long-term future is first base and Machado slotted into third base. You could have done all of that. You can always make it work. When you have a really good baseball players. They made it work with Rodney Rodney moved to third base. It was never a necessity. And I think the day they acquire Giancarlo Stanton, which was now a year and a few months ago, they made their intentions clear. They chose an extra year at Giancarlo Stanton. They chose bringing him in over going after Manny Machado and probably Bryce Harper because Bryce Harper is going to sign soon now, and let's all admit it. It's not going to be with the Yankees that hope that some have it's not going to happen. And so a year and four months ago when Joe and I were at army navy in December in the snow. That was the moment. Good or bad, depending on your view on it when Brian Cashman decided Giancarlo Stanton. Yes. Not Bryce Harper. Manny machado. Let's be honest. Now, the Philadelphia. Phillies who had the same team that came out at the start of the off season and said, we're going to spend stupid money until get me wrong. Phillies about a solid very solid off season. Ludo Sikora Robertson mccutchen thought people in Philadelphia. You know, how that that town operates eight Spooner bust, right? It's going to be about one of those big stores. And now I think for Bryce Harper and his camp. Well, he's got Scott Boris in his ear. And he's got the big time agent in the mix. You'll tell me Bryce offers going to settle for less than three million dollars gonna make sure hey, guess what? It's ten years three a one and the Yankees because Stanton is down to mix the gonna pay a bunch of day younger players part of this young core given for ten years at three one way. And that's what it's going to take it. I think that's what he's going to get through something else at you. Because and this guy has not called a station many years, but there was a caller to to Joe. And then me in the overnight named John and Philly and John always used to bring up something. Interesting about the dynamic in Philadelphia. He'd say that there's a rivalry between the Phillies and the eagles. There is that competition in that market place for the souls of the fans, I mean, you fans of all of those teams, but they kind of compete for attention right now if you look at the city of Philadelphia the Philadelphia Eagles are not that far removed from winning a Super Bowl. They're going to make a big decision about Nick foles. They are the team in that city. And now the Sixers have completed the process if you will right? They're building behind Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, and they made the trade for Tobias Harris, and they made the trade for Jimmy Butler. What I'm getting at is to your point, which is right on about the Phillies spending stupid money. I think they also need to kind of combat the popularity of the eagles and the Sixers by bringing in the Starlight Bryce Harper because the moves they've made a good genes. Cigarette is an underrated player, we know about David Robertson around here, Andrew mccutchen. They've got a good off season. And they may end up with Craig kimbrel. We'll see where Dallas kaikal they kind of need that star power. Because in that city think we. We have that here in New York. But in that city, they compete with the other teams around. So I think price is going to end up there. And that's why I think it's brilliant that Scott Boras because I know this is what's going on. This is definitely what's going on Scott Boris is leaking out. The thought that Bryce doesn't wanna play in Philly. Unlike Philly, the liberty belles, ugly, the cities there's I don't like cheese. Stay they can league all that stuff out to put more and more pressure on the Phillies to just pay whatever the hell he wants. And I think that's going to happen..
"zehnder bogart" Discussed on Boston Herald Radio
"The lineup moving Andrew Benintendi to lead off and Mookie Betts to second. Which Mike first question is if any broke why fix it? I mean they one hundred and eight games in the regular season with mulkey bets hitting leadoff. They went eleven three in the postseason. He won the American League MVP. Do you think that Alex Cora maybe is over thinking this? Yeah, I certainly agree with your methodology. There ain't broke don't fix it. I know it's a cliche. But I mean, it's a cliche for a reason right cliches, sometimes are dual they are sometimes it worthwhile. And. I don't understand it. And in two aspects one the one you just mentioned he won MVP your team won the most games. They've everyone before you won the World Series and to its December twelfth twelfth twelve twelve Tom Brady day, you're announcing your batting order on December twelfth four months before the start of the why why are you making that decision right now? Wait until spring training. See how it plays out? It makes no sense. Also talked about that Dustin Pedroia will hit leadoff opening day at Fenway park because he's the longest serving red sock and we'll see healthy enough to play going forward. So you're going gonna go and then he's gonna dive to get his uniform dirty by the second inning. Even if he doesn't have to see with. I love you. I love Marcus smart because I feel like that's a real hassle and Dustin Pedroia, I feel like it's fake customer. You think I would like someone like Dustin Pedroia, but I don't I don't buy it. I think he's a I think it's fake hustle. Yeah. Marcus smart has to play like that. I don't think he's skilled enough to play any other way. Right. And that's what. Yeah. He's not a great shooter. He's a good passer. I mean, he's a smart basketball player. Just not a real offensive greatest skills. Zephyr is effort. Yeah. Which is fine. And again, not everyone can do that. Like, Marcus smart. I mean, guys also six four supreme athlete. Smart basketball player. All that's in the Dustin Pedroia. Yeah. I think it's over the top. When remember when he got hurt in two thousand and ten he was throwing the ball while on his knees because I'm coming back. You know, I think he's got Napoleonic complex at some point. Yeah. I mean, he was when he said he was the leader of the team. You're looking at it. But I think those is quote, and he he's obviously just as he Scott's and personality flaws for sure, but that's neither here nor there. The Mookie Betts thing to me seems like why would you move somebody who had a career year and has admitted he's most comfortable lead us away from the leadoff spot. Right. He likes hitting leadoff. Maybe they want to get him into more RBI situations. But you're really only in an RBI situation after the first at bat because there's the bottom of the order that you know, if the lineup is deep enough these going to be coming up with men on base. And look, I'm not a big RBI guy. I'm a big guy PS, plus Rb is to me a circumstantial if you come up with no one on base. How do you possibly drive someone in unless you get a home run which he did last year more than thirty times? I think his speed is also an asset in the lead opposition as Benintendi is. I don't think it's a horrible choice as Benintendi. Guy. Most team was a lot of teams the difference in just kind of maybe the Red Sox are playing around with numbers here. And the thing about the Red Sox in court. They will weigh numbers. And then there's also the I tests and the gut the gut check. So I think he kind of way all of those three things in there and you come up with these decisions Benintendi when he hit leadoff last year at about nine fifty when he hit anywhere else in the order was about eight ten so maybe they're looking at this as a way to get him to the next level of superstardom and Benintendi hitting leadoff. We'll see his numbers. Go up and Mookie Betts can hit anywhere else. But now if Benintendi feels pressure hitting every single day, and then Benintendi isn't able to put up the numbers that we expect them to in this would be third full year. And then Mookie Betts takes a step back, which I would expect Mookie Betts that take a slight step back this year. Right. I mean, he had a great year last year on the batting title MVP. He's a phenomenal player. But in baseball, we see this write ups and downs. I mean, it doesn't mean he's gonna hit two sixty great. But if he hits three ten three twenty and has an open in the low nine hundred that's not a bad twenty five home runs start a bad year. But compared to what he did into best year. There's there's Mike track has to be your best year. You know, I can't have you can't every year. Get better a better a better better. Actually hit one hundred season. That's not going to happen. So my trucks the one guy in baseball that you can feel as long as he's and he generally is is going to put up. Certain Mookie Betts that may be a ten percent market correction, and he's still have him in contention for an MVP award. If if it's a ten percent drop off you'd still be one of the best players sixteen. He finished second to trout in MVP voting. It was a lot of people thought it would be closer than it was but trout won pretty handily in two thousand seventeen Mookie Betts had you know, what would be considered an off year, and he still finished sixth and MVP voting because he gives you so much besides just his offensive numbers. There's a base runner, and how many times have I said this. This is the best defensive right fielder. I have ever seen or at least since Roberto Clementi. He does so many things out there as well. So he doesn't generally let what happens offensively impact what he does defensively. Now almost separate those two which is which I think is a hallmark of a great player you agree with chorus assessment there that. Towards the end of the season. He was sort of getting a little passive. Well, I think maybe when he's talking about end of season he's talking season. Yeah. Not the end of the regular season. The end being the postseason, which it seemed that he was a little out of sorts in the. I thought he was actually a little bit too aggressive. I thought he was swinging for home runs, and he was huge. I thought it was the other way around that he wasn't. So it was I mean, he's he's always taken the first pitch. I normally distract anyways. But that's something. He did during the over the course of the regular season. So that wasn't surprised to see. But I just thought his swing. He was looking like he was just trying to crush the ball every time postseason. That's not really his game. Now, use overdoing it and he finally at home run in game five. So maybe now he's off the Schneider. He's got that one postseason home run. So if the Red Sox are back in the postseason, maybe the pressure's off crat through. Do you think it was because he was leading off? No, I don't think. So no, I want my best hitters hitting at the top of the order because it just means they're going to get more at bats. And that leads to the next point. I wanted to make sap which is that if he was gonna if coral has got an out any sort of lineup changes in the batting order. I want him to say JD Martinez is hitting third every game. Because he didn't know he didn't say that. He did. Right. And there were times where Mitch Moreland shoved me crazy. I know drove you create because look just I think the best hitter. Hits second on the team. It's not third or fourth anymore. It's more second sabermetrics show that the second hitter gets more opportunities to get up with guys on base. So he should be your best hitter Miguel Cabrera when he was the best here in baseball. The Tigers moved him to second. I mean, the old fashioned way is speed first. And then that contact can move runners along second that went on your power power with her years ago. That's. For fourth or your best. It's third and fourth actually YouTube stage. She'd probably hit second or third or even lead off. With Mookie Betts, shady your your best. Three hitters are are Benintendi Betts. Will. Four guys any combination of those should be your first four guy without a doubt. They put Mitch Moreland in there to try to stretch the lineup back that, but it's still have those those guys are going to get on base. Don't you want JD Martinez to bring here's the thing that I always look at any given season there's going to be opportunities or occurrences when Mitch Moreland or let's say Steve Pearson in the game as a pinch hitter. Make the last out of the game hitting third and meanwhile, you've got JD Martinez sitting on deck and Zehnder Bogart's in the whole. Would you rather have those guys up at badge eighty Martinez Bogart's on deck because maybe they're gonna pitch around JD Martinez that gives Bogart's an opportunity to come with big hit. And he's supposed to be a better player, the Mitch Moreland or Steve Pearce? I'm Steve pierces. The you know. A World Series. MVP should be get your best players the most possible at that. Absolutely. So where did Aaron judge hit most of the last year at the Yankee second? I got no problem with that. I think that's where you want your top guys hitting kind of contradiction. I'm saying here about Buki Betts who he won the batting title. I still think JD Martinez is a better hitter than Mookie Betts bookie best clearly a better baseball player. So with my way of thinking, I would want one of those guys hitting second. But I do want Mookie Betts hitting leadoff because he was so comfortable with it last year. And I would just leave Benintendi second give him opportunities and he's going to grow into a three hundred hitter. A guy that's going to have an up close to nine hundred. I think Benintendi slumped a little bit the last month of the season in September more so than any of them of postseason and the postseason. Postseason. What would your ideal? Batting rotation would go because I don't know, of course, sold on the way Francona was or any other manager in baseball with the righty lefty righty lefty, because you know, you try to eliminate the lefty relief pitcher coming in and facing multiple lefthanded batter. So you don't want to set it up for that. So I would still have Mookie Betts at first Benintendi hit second. 'cause then you've got the speed at the top of the order, and I think Benintendi is going to elevate his game this year, then JD Martinez. Third Zander Bogart's fourth. And then you go from there with Moreland in Pearson that platoon hitting fifth and maybe Denver's hitting six, and then you just go from there. Jackie Bradley, jR, union known. Yes. Yes. Five million dollars a year because we're going to get into that that you know, there was a tweet yesterday by Bob Nightingale of USA today in Bob nightingales, a very respected reporter, and everyone is in Las Vegas at the winter meetings. Of course and Nightingale tweeted out the Boston Red Sox trying to clear salary space for bullpen helper. Openly listening to offers.
"zehnder bogart" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"App. John Giambi does and BUSTER Olney just wear producer. Rosenberg? Our engineer BUSTER only east you guys know each other pretty well. How old was Tony Lee met David price for the first time eleven years old because David played on the Nashville Yankees with his older brother Corey so Kemp's known them for that long. And he said that going into this game. They had only face each other one time is professionals. Bryce, ready and fire. Kept shorts takes a pitch low for ball one. And he said that price retired him on a change epi sediment next nasty texts after that he says it surreal to face him on the stage. And he said he probably is gonna wink at him. When he got the box against him in this game. Field of dreams. I like that. Swing and a foul out of play. I went off to the left one one, right? Those are the younger moonlight Graham. We get the pitcher. Do you ever inside the base at third off the line change it up the middle? Zehnder Bogart's camp open stance. Goldie weights. Here's a one one slaying. That is something right there. That you don't see a ton. But he today's game given works at work. So that is left on left changeups and he'd similar to right on. Right changeups. But right there he was flailing at the change the pitch. I'm surprised and I can now see why you see it more. It's one of the hardest pitches to hit one. On and foul intimate of aska's struck him out. How about David price? He is struck out eight four and a third simply brilliant here tonight. If that left on left change of book, the reason why this pitch to me. I'm surprised has it happened more is it so hard to hit something that's off speed running in to your hands. Showed it they're against Tony Tampa. Tonight. They wanted to go with the change up a whole lot more. Fifteen percent from his normal change of usage. Is ready and fires swing a ball? Popped up foul play off to the right. RT baldato. Was struck out looking. For one out to for eighteen these players. The word go seven. It'd be Dallas kaikal the goal. I think Ryan McCaffrey get the started not confirmed that they've been matched up. Right hand hitter. Price. Fly. Ball foul down the right side. That would push the golf out of play price at seventy nine pitches. She rubs up a new baseball. Baldato climbs back in. Holy to down. Outside called Maldonado. We'll step out. How far does price still? Comes in next. How much can they get from Warrenton brazier is all the a factor in this game and Craig kimbrel. Craig kimbrel. Two. Paid crowd here tonight forty three thousand two hundred and ten. Yawning to out the bases. The one nothing Boston. Bottled by price deal. Hi fly ball right center field. Bradley going back Bradley at the track any holes in front of the bullpen right-center. Alex Cora regained Jackie Bradley, jR, is the quiet leader out there. He is the guy that is more of the adviser. Well, those three but they play as a unit. They are great friends, Benintendi, Bradley and bats. But Jackie the senior bowls. Of those three. Been clinic all fielders Josh Radic at the Astros made a diving catch at the bases loaded yesterday. That's his shown off the glove Benintendi with the game. Enter to think the Jackie Bradley JR. Junior's fast outfielder in the stadium and says a lot. Here's Maricic gal the pitch swing and a little roller towards third barehanded price. I on a about outed. I David price did such a good job with his bare hand pushing that fall into the ground to make sure you had to grip through a what hopper to I that the gold glove or Mitch Moreland was able to pick out of bounce. We had hitting number six and the Red Sox lead one nothing. This is the American League championship series audience being radio on the ESPN app. Presented by auto zone. My number.
"zehnder bogart" Discussed on KMOX News Radio 1120
"You tonight. Seven o'clock hour, Ben Hochman coming on with us in our next segment. It'll be with us here for about thirty minutes. Plenty to talk about with them, then we'll talk a little less CFC wanna get into a little baseball because we just found out today that John was as lock we'll be talking with the media tomorrow a little off season conversation with the president of baseball operations and lots of questions. Lots to be discussed. With the cardinal's president off-season that's very crucial for him. Very crucial for this team. Because Milwaukee's getting better Chicago's getting better. Bits Bergen Cincinnati. You're gonna be right there with ya. So. Citizens need to be I feel that this is going to have to be a bold offseason. More bold. Then what it was last year? Is that Chris Rabi, Mike? No, just Chris a caller that it was Jackson Browne. That's like the polar opposite of Holland out. So Chris thank you for that. Because I was going to make myself look just. Just. Yeah. It's just bad. Anyway, look down this past off season was bold. Tiny miles. Mike lists. Obviously, we saw that payoff trading for Marcello trying to get Giancarlo Stanton. But I think you're gonna have to be more bold this off season. I think you're going to have to. Make a play for. And all star. In. I know Marcello Zuma was an all star. But I think you're going to have to make a play for somebody bigger than that. And that leaves a few options Bryce Harper. Manny Machado, if you're going to throw the money out you either have to throw three hundred plus million out. Or you have to make some type of big move in. That's where I jump in on this. A lot of talk about the Bryce Harper. The Saint Louis conversation. I see on social media. Yeah. That that would be awesome. But. That's not your weakness. Like your offense is weak. But boy, you need a you need somebody in the middle of that Enfield, you need somebody on that left side. Jerko was great this year. But you need somebody to take you there. I mean, look at the teams in the postseason right now. Mike dacas are playing for the Milwaukee Brewers Machado and Turner for the dodgers altuve and bregman for the Astros. You've seen kind of a platoon at third base. But. Zehnder Bogart's for the Boston Red Sox? Sure. These guys are elite players that have offense and defense, but defense has been winning these postseason games at least in the dodgers and brewers series. So. This may not completely shore it up, but to me. I think you gotta make a play for Paul Goldschmidt. I mean, this is a guy who's been an all star pretty much entire career. He's hitting offense for you. But he is at least I feel. An elite defender. And you know, maybe the numbers show it differently, but he's made plays. And I know that doesn't fix the third base shortstop side. But if you can make a trade for Goldschmidt. And you can sign a Josh Donaldson or a Mike moves dacas. Well, one you're not it's close to similar to three hundred million dollars that you would have to throw out to a Harper Machado. But it's a little less with Donaldson and a little less with Goldschmidt. Now, you'd have to give up some big pieces. And I think that's the key in this. How how much are you willing to give up but look Machado? I don't think it's not happening. He's going to the Yankees. Harpers possible. But man, it puts you back into the same scenario where defense hurts you last year. You didn't have an option at third Paul young was sturdy for you at short. But first base was a platoon until carpenter started to hit, but even that struggled. So that's a big area that needs to be addressed. Look the bullpen needs to be built up the rotation. You have to decide who's doing what? But right now defense and finding a big bad is what you need. And I think all of those can be found in one or two players rather than dropping three or four hundred million dollars for just one player. But hey, maybe Machado is a possibility maybe Harper can fix some things, but you still will have to find a way to shore up that shortstop third base position. Let's take a break. We'll come back. Welcome in Ben Hochman of the post-dispatch. We'll talk a little baseball with them. We'll talk a lot of hockey with them and touch on a little soccer as well. As the Dave Sinclair, Lincoln and Ford sports, Alex Ferrario with you on Monday night on chemo wax..
"zehnder bogart" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"A bunch in our count towns whether it be baseball or football uh that song appears to be extremely popular right now so we're gonna have to change because once the song gets used abundance boards that i feel the need to pit enters the big different but lots of other artists there i'm trying to get the guy's constantly to give me a little more country music and right now and then there's some pushback it's on twitter at a law radio that you're weighing in about the firing of john farrell in boston as well as the yankees and the indians and the astros also on our facebook page after hours lord i haven't gotten many calls from indian spans but some of you are weighing in on facebook and on twitter i just saw this from bell on our facebook page the final straw for many sox fans was how john farrell did and said nothing about how price disrespected eckersley he looked too wishywashy and that doesn't fly in boston sports so my reaction to that is regardless of what some people may think it i did hear from a lotta sox fans during the day on wednesday it wasn't the overwhelming or what felt like overwhelming desire to fire john farrow that moved dave dombrowski is hand i dare say he doesn't take a poll before he too sides what to do and maybe was a combination of factors i don't understand why didn't share them and less there is something deepen dark and secretive behind the scenes that nobody is supposed to know when he's trying to preserve john perils reputation but maybe it was just a combination of things as were that particular incident i would definitely agree that that was a major you're turning point for the sock this year in member immediately after that david price went on the d l and also dustin pedroia missed some time uh so that changed what the red sox could do we saw some great contributions from their young guys this year from raphael dever's who came up late in the season then to an andrew benintendi to a milky bets of course in jackie bradley jr i mean there are some zehnder bogart's there some great young talent on this team but it feels like some of the voices in the clubhouse those are.