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Fresh update on "wisconsin" discussed on John Howell
"John Howell. Just ahead. I'm John Dempsey. 8 90 wools. Thank you, John. Did they ever figure out the motive of the man that was hanging off the trump Tower for 13 hours wanted to talk to President Trump will decide that beside that was he was Anti trump Pro trump. Just, uh, I don't know if he was pro Trump or anti Trump. For years and years ago, there was a guy who rushed Augusta in Georgia. Hold up there. I don't know if he had a hostage or now, but he demanded to talk to the president. States and Reagan actually did so. I think I did remember, I've got some breaking news for you. This just came in two seconds ago. The United States Supreme Court is siding with Democrats. They are allowing Pennsylvania. To count mail ballots that air received up to three days after the election. That is the ruling tonight from the U. S Supreme Court. Wow, that that's That's what I was reading today and one of the when one of the Web sites and one of the papers Wall Street Journal New York Times Tribune. Sometimes I can't remember, But they said, You know the Trump people feel Wisconsin's gone. Uh, that's that's what they said late last week. Now that may or may not be true knows it could change tomorrow, but They thought their going to reallocate a lot of the Wisconsin money to Pennsylvania because Pennsylvania is a must for the president, especially if he loses Florida early.
Michigan plays key role in 2020 election
"2020 continues with the president holding rallies in Michigan and Wisconsin just weeks from the election even is Corona virus cases, surge is there and in several other states, CBS's we Jang reports President Trump ignored police from local officials and doctors in Michigan and Wisconsin to reconsider holding packed rallies
Fresh update on "wisconsin" discussed on Free Talk Live
"Today was the first day for early voting in Florida in 2.5 Million Floridians have already voted by sending their ballots through the mail or by dropping them off. Many still want to go inside and do it at the polling place. As much as I feel male imbalance is safe. I don't think a chance of not getting it in. He voted this morning in Pembroke Pines near Fort Lauderdale. Some polling places in Miami started having voter's line up at 3 a.m. today. Early voting in Florida continues through the Sunday before Election Day in Broward County, Florida. Evan Brown Fox NEWS Wisconsin judge has re imposed in order from Governor Tony Evers office limiting the number of people who congrats er in bars, restaurants and other indoor places to 25% of capacity. It's cases of covert 19 in the states, Serge A pharmacy chain is looking to fill thousands of jobs. CBS wants to hire 15,000 workers heading into the fall and winter months as the pharmacy chain braces for an increase in coded 19 cases as well as seasonal flu outbreaks. It'll also eventually need help to handle the rollout of a potential corona virus vaccine more than 10,000 of those TVs is looking.
Perez on Biden's poll leads: Democrats 'take nothing for granted'
"I want to go back now to the presidential campaign and check in with both sides. First we go to the chairman of the Democratic Party, Tom Perez. Good morning to you. Good morning. Pleasure to be with you. Well, our CBS battleground tracker shows this morning that your candidate Joe Biden has the edge in both Arizona by three points, five point lead in Wisconsin. Ah, lot of that ultimately is going to be dependent on turnout. You think the Democratic Party has done enough in the mist of this pandemic to drive up either easy balloting or ability to go to the polls? I always caution people never get on the polar coaster. We take nothing for granted and the enthusiasm. Margaret has been all over the country. You saw the early vote totals in Wisconsin. Over a quarter of the people have already voted in Wisconsin. They voted absentee looked down in Florida 2.4 million people voted down there and what's really interesting is the Democrats overwhelmingly turning in their ballots, and 350,000 of the Democrats have turned in their ballots haven't voted in the last two elections, so it's not just people who we're voting for convenience. It's people who Haven't turned out and that shows the enthusiasm for Joe Biden and common Harris. We have a lot more work to do, but we're expanding. The battle grounds were competing in places like Arizona, Texas, Ohio, Iowa, George and elsewhere. And that's because we have a candidate who I think is just uniquely qualified to bring people together. He does have a plan to deal with our crisis are around a virus crisis, our economic crisis. He is a uniter. He's not a divider, And that is
Fresh "wisconsin" from WBBM Afternoon News Update
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Trump rallies in Wisconsin after state reports record-high COVID-19 cases
"The Democrat governor of Wisconsin for Corona virus restrictions. At the same time the state sees a spike in cases were doing really well, I We should have a Republican governor, because, frankly, you gotta open. You stayed up. You gotta open it up. Open it up. Get back to school. Wisconsin has the fourth biggest increase in cases in the nation. And is undergoing a third wave of Corona virus. There was no
Fresh update on "wisconsin" discussed on The CBS Evening News
"Trump made his sixth campaign trip to Arizona today, hoping to turn the tide against Joe Biden, who could become the first Democratic nominee and 24 years to win the state. You don't have events like this and you come in second in Arizona 15 days from now we're going to win the state of Arizona, but the latest CBS News battleground tracker shows bite and holding a lead in Arizona. He has a three point edge similar to last month. And for intense seniors say Mr Trump has put them more at risk during the pandemic. You knew that this virus Was five times more deadly than the flu. It's that message that Kamala Harris and the biting campaign continue to push. He knew it was airborne. What do you do? He kept that information to himself. I call it a cover up. She was in Florida. Today. We're early in person. Voting began with many lined up before sunrise. This is the reality of Trump's covered response. Voters air Seeing the campaign's covert attacks on TV to mining is outspending the president on ads in most swing states, including by 3 to 1 key battleground of Wisconsin. In that state. It's also the pandemic that swinging voters to bind it. Mr. Trump wanted in 2016 by just 23,000 votes and made his sixth trip there just this past weekend, but likely, voters say Biden would better handle the pandemic. As they told CBS is Adriana de s. How 0% and.
Trump, Biden campaigns approach COVID threat very differently
"Clash again on the Corona virus. President Trump continues to campaign against covert restrictions, visited Wisconsin amid the state's Worth Corona. Virus. Outbreak open. You stayed up in Michigan Friday, Democratic challenger So Biden continued to blast the president's pandemic response he knew back in January. How dangerous this virus wass and hit women marched in cities across the US urging Americans to cast their ballots You have voting rights are in question. Many voiced opposition to President Trump's conservative Supreme Court nominee. Amy Cockney barrel.
Fresh update on "wisconsin" discussed on KYW 24 Hour News
"On TV to mining is outspending the president on ads in most swing states, including by 3 to 1 of the key battleground of Wisconsin. In that state. It's also the pandemic that swinging voters to bind Mr Trump wanted in 2016 by just 23,000 votes and made his six trip there just this past weekend, But likely, voters say Biden would better handle the pandemic. As they told CBS is Adriana de s. How would you rate 0% and nearly half of likely Wisconsin voters say Mr Trump has hurt their states attempts to curb the outbreak, which has surged again in recent days. I don't like all the lines. And all along about cold.
Virus surges in key battleground states as election nears
"Rising Corona virus cases in the key battleground states are the latest worry for election officials and voters A little more than two weeks before Election Day, Wisconsin's governor plans to activate the Wisconsin National Guard to fill any staffing shortages and election sites.
Trump, Biden visit key battleground states ahead of election
"With just over two weeks to go before Election Day, we can expect both presidential candidates to bombard battleground states. Yesterday, President Trump was in Michigan and Wisconsin, where he blasted Joe Biden for not speaking up. His protests across the country turned violent for the entire summer by was silent as radicals, anarchists, arsonists and Vandals rampage through Democrat run cities in Minneapolis, Chicago, New York, Seattle, Portland and other places. The president is in Nevada, now for a rally in Carson City and event in Las Vegas wasn't passed. Double because of social distancing measures put in place because of the Corona virus, the president last campaign in Nevada on September 13th during a controversial indoor rally in Henderson, Nevada. Six electoral votes were won by Hillary Clinton in 2016, the president hoping to reverse that in November,
President Trump to hold Nevada rally on Sunday
"Today. President Trump will hold another campaign rally after two others in Michigan and Wisconsin this weekend. The president is hoping to win a state he lost four years ago. President Trump set to hold a campaign rally in Carson City, Nevada today, but no rally will take place in the Las Vegas area, which the campaign had wanted to schedule despite difficulties and finding a venue that would accommodate a super sized crowd in violation of the governor's social distancing rules. Nevada's six electoral votes were won by Hillary Clinton in 2016, the president hoping to reverse that in November.
36 states seeing surge in COVID-19 cases
"Rallies in Michigan and Wisconsin, saying the nation is rounding the corner when it comes to covert 1936 states are seeing rising hospitalizations with many states. Clearing record one day increases in cases Alabama head coach Nick Saban, who tested positive on Wednesday, would be on the sidelines in the game against Georgia. The Mayo Clinic urges no trick or treating this Halloween Salem, Massachusetts cancelled its month of events, but people are still coming to visit leading Mare Kim Driscoll once again to urge people to stay away this October. Is not the typical array of activities you would see on Halloween and we really need to curtail that activity. There is progress in some former hot spots. Governor Andrew Cuomo says Select lockdowns in New York City neighborhoods have worked. He's reopening some movie theaters in the state at reduced capacity. There are over 8.1 Million Corona virus case is now in the United States. 219,000 have died.
Gretchen Whitmer: Trump 'inciting domestic terrorism' with 'Lock her up!' rally chant
"Trying to hold on to states He won last time around rallies in Muskegon, Michigan. Janesville, Wisconsin at the latter rally. We have unbelievable vaccines are coming out real soon. And the therapeutics are unbelievable. In the killer's excuse me. I'm here earlier. Schools have to be open, right. Mr Trump's rally in the skiing in Michigan, the crowd chanting, lock her up, meaning Governor Gretchen Whitmer this days after federal and state law enforcers say Whitmer was the target of extremists who plotted to kidnap her holder, Tron trialled and possibly killer 14 men are arrested in the case. Michigan governor tweeting that President Trump's locker up rhetoric is the kind that has put her her family and other government officials in danger
Trump rallies in Wisconsin after state reports record-high COVID cases
"The president's rallies this weekend, not just a political flashpoint, but a public health one is well with local government and health officials. Warning the large crowds could become super spreader events in states where the numbers are hitting record highs Garrett Hake is in Wisconsin with more. Tonight. A crowd of thousands of mostly masculine trump supporters packed together on an airport tarmac I a mask I might put it on if I sit down to somebody. But. I'm healthy and I'm not that concerned about it. It's overblown. Wisconsin's governor accusing the president of encouraging a super spreader event with tonight's campaign rally sure would ask him personally. Where a mask. Be physically distant. He'll do that. There's been no indication that he's. Willing to do. This is Wisconsin sets records for new cases and hospitalizations. This week more than fifteen hundred Wisconsin is have died of covid nineteen prompting a group of doctors to warn of dire consequences. President trump's rallies endanger public health, and they have become platforms for him to spread medically inaccurate information that puts people's lives at risk right here in Wisconsin the White House is owned Corona Virus, taskforce places Wisconsin, and it's red zone for new cases the most dangerous category warning of rapid worsening the virus in the state over the last week and urging social distancing to the maximum degree. Possible. Trump rallies aren't known for social distancing crowds in the thousands regularly sit or stand press together for hours. Beforehand, masks are required for entry but often discarded inside. At last night's rally in Macon Georgia. A trump supporting democratic state representative went crowd surfing the President returns to Wisconsin at a time of possession peril for his campaign. Recent polling shows him trailing Joe, Biden. By an average of six points here the president's last plan trip here canceled at the last minute the president himself was diagnosed with corona buyers
Trump Repeatedly Raised His Risk Of Spreading COVID-19 At Campaign Rallies In Hotspot States
"Corona virus cases in key battleground states have caused rising concerns over safety. CBS News correspondent President Trump ignored police from local officials and doctors in Michigan and Wisconsin to reconsider holding packed rallies as cove in 19 cases soar. We're going to win the state of Michigan, we're going to win. On Friday, Vice President Joe Biden courted Michigan voters at a drive in rally in Detroit and a socially distanced event in Southfield, blasting Mr Trump's refusal to embrace mitigation measures.
Trump heads to Michigan, Wisconsin in re-election campaign push
"President trump campaign's Michigan and Wisconsin Today Fox's Kevin Corke, in Muskegon, where rally gets underway later today were president trump lost in the last election by a narrow margin ten thousand votes a little bit more than that was the difference between the president and his Democratic challenger in two, thousand sixteen, and so the real question is what will happen this time in twenty twenty? Well, clearly, both parties are campaigning very hard for support here. In, Michigan, because of that, very tight margin back. Then in fact, the president has been here for times already and twenty twenty, five, Kevin
Coronavirus rates breaking new records as rise continues
"Covert 19 of the United States. Nearly 70,000 new case is now being reported each day. ABC is Trevor All this week. 11 States hit new record high Case totals 13 hit record hospitalizations to hit record deaths and Wisconsin now averaging more than 3000 cases, a day broke records in all three categories. In New Mexico. Hospitalizations have jumped 70% this month, the governor tweeting We are past the point of Prevention Mohr. New Mexicans will die. And in Florida Emily Jones is the widow of 51 year old Jerry Jones, a longtime paramedic in Volusia County, where he died in September. 1 Day apart from his sister, who also died from the virus, You know people that don't believe it or Think it's not a big deal, and you shouldn't be afraid of it. You should be afraid of it because it's scary, and it really happens and it's it's
President Trump carries on with rallies as health experts warn against large gatherings during pandemic
"In every four Corona virus tests are coming back positive. Residents Residents are are asked asked to to avoid avoid gatherings. gatherings. Even Even political political gatherings gatherings were were here here to to call call on on President President Trump Trump to to cancel cancel his his campaign campaign rally rally on on Saturday. Saturday. Dr Bob Friedland, along with Other Wisconsin doctors stepped up Friday to urge cancellation of the president's rally tonight in the state President Trump's rallies in danger public health and they have become platform for him to spread medically inaccurate information. Wisconsin is one of at least seven states that in the past two days has set records for infections. And there's no mystery about what's causing case numbers to rise. Retirement parties, birthday parties, baby showers, weddings all of those things in Kansas City, eight area hospitals have had to turn away patients this week in New Mexico, a second straight day of record breaking cases Friday, and hospitalizations were not
At least 11 states set records for new COVID-19 cases
"Eight million people in the US have tested positive for covert 19 in just under nine months. But ABC Trevor all says right now the country seeing almost 70,000 new cases per day this week, 11 States hit new record high case totals. 13 hit record hospitalizations to hit record deaths and Wisconsin now averaging more than 3000 cases, a day broke records in all three categories. In New Mexico. Hospitalizations have jumped 70% this month, the governor tweeting We are past the point of Prevention Mohr. New Mexicans will die this
Rural hospitals struggling to handle virus surge
"Surgeon Corona virus case is underway in the US many hospitals around the country are overwhelmed. College campuses continue to grapple with outbreaks, CBS REPORTER Moola LINKY reports A fall surge of Corona virus cases has arrived, and it's taking a toll on hospitals across the country. In Wisconsin were about one in every five Corona virus tests is coming back positive. State health officials are warning residents to avoid all gatherings large and small, which continue to play a role in spreading the virus. A retirement parties, birthday parties, baby showers, weddings all of those things. That's why we have been encouraging here in recent weeks that people stay home as much as possible. Wisconsin was one of eight states to break its single day record for new Corona virus cases on Thursday. So is Ohio Hospitalizations. There are up nearly 50% in the last two weeks and infections are rising fast in rural and suburban counties. According to Ohio State Dr Matt Excellent, Papa fell for local regional hospitals is to send patients to the referral hospitals such as Ohio State, such as Cleveland Clinic's University of Cincinnati. But if all of these hospitals and all of these cases were coming at once, they won't have that pop off valves available. Colleges and universities continue to grapple with outbreaks. The State University of New York in Oneonta announced its president had resigned to pursue other opportunities. After more than 700 students tested positive for Cove in 19, the school switched all remote classes for the rest of the semester. Another recent spike. It's Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, Connecticut, forced the campus to temporarily suspend in person classes for some off campus students. Now their goal is to test 50% of their student body every single week, and Gerry McNamara is sacred Heart's director of public safety. We have found that students have been on campus and they don't know they have the virus. And if we don't provide the testing to know that, then we can't react to the quicker we react with the quicker we can stop this.
Trump to hold Wisconsin rally despite warning over public gatherings
"Virus cases and a warning from his own virus Taskforce. Joe Biden has no events planned as cases of the virus or past eight million in the US, Much of
President Trump carries on with rallies as health experts warn against large gatherings during pandemic
"President trump's not letting warnings about social distancing or wearing masks keep him from holding large rallies president trump set to hold a rally in Wisconsin today despite his own white. House Corona virus. Task. Force telling the state this week that residents need to avoid crowds and public and social gatherings in private unless they want to cause preventable deaths, the task force saying Wisconsin is in the red zone fourth in the nation for new covert nineteen cases per population the. Won The badger state in two thousand sixteen and the states. Ten electoral votes are critical to his path to reelection
"wisconsin" Discussed on Majority 54
"The winner. One Way to think about this is like a game of tug of war. Each end of the rope is anchored by the most reliably red or blue states. So on the Republican side of the rope, you want your staunchly conservative states like Nebraska and Wyoming as the anchor there the kids on the playground that had their growth spurt early. On the Democratic team you're putting your liberal strongholds like California in Vermont in the Anchorage. Spots. But kids like myself who were small way fee were stuck in the front try not to fall over at the center line and give the wind to the other team. We're the tipping point states we could get pulled either way, and which way we fall ultimately decides which team wins. And just like the rule of small kids to the front, there are reasons why certain states become tipping points. I think it became kind of like a a medium that Wisconsin was symbolic why Clinton Lost Wisconsin always a little bit democratic-leaning more recent. That's a kind of right at the tipping point, and that does reflect the fact that now Democrats are more reliant on a really diverse coalition which which doesn't particularly helped them in Wisconsin that means they're losing grandma white voters gaining ground among other voters. But yeah, it's become more and more important Wisconsin. The media kind of actually sneered at trump for trying to compete in Wisconsin. The notion is, Oh, we knew all along look based on our certain ground that Wisconsin was close. That was not the narrative. If you actually go back and look at twenty, sixteen people made fun of trump for trying to penetrate the Blue Wall in Pennsylvania Donald. Trump spin there. He's hitting Michigan and his campaign is really talking about Michigan as a place where they see some potential on the flip side, we have sources telling us. Yeah. This is kind of to push the media narrative. Why is trump even spending time in these places when with seventy to go time is the most precious resource he has if you were advising and wouldn't you say get the to Florida I would I, would say get to the places where you have a shot. Really. Make a difference in and win the election, and while Wisconsin may have been recently thrust into the national electoral spotlight. It's had a long history of close elections. Here's Ben Wick Ler, the chair of the Democratic Party in Wisconsin. Ben's exactly what you'd imagine a young high school principal would look like if you've ever seen the twenty fifth annual Putnam County Spelling Bee, I, suspect. He'd make a great vice principal Panch, but that's just a hunch and twenty sixteen everyone remembered that Wisconsin had gone blue in presidential races and over and over and over, and somehow one remembered that it was the closest state in the country in two, thousand, four and second closest in two thousand and that in other words in half of the previous four essential races we'd had. Under one percentage point margins. So in two thousand, sixteen, the polling said that Clinton was way up people took Wisconsin for granted and in twenty twenty, no one is making that mistake. So this concept of a blue wall was likely always a fallacy, a media creation that suggested a predetermined quality that wasn't actually reflected in the rust belt states they referred to here's nate again we. Kind of made fun of the Blue Wall concepts right because the states part of the blue all until it isn't right and there's nothing about the concept of Blue Wall that makes a state obviously impervious to to change I. Guess It was surprise like because usually of that Wisconsin Pennsylvania, Michigan Group Wisconsin and Michigan had been more solidly Democratic Than Pennsylvania, which is kind of often. Very near the tipping point itself. So I guess a little bit of surprise that Wisconsin and Michigan moved more, but there are a couple of things going on here. Right? One is that they are more working class Wisconsin in particular has a smaller african-american population than Pennsylvania does, for example, you know number two Wisconsin and Michigan tend to be pretty big change states and not status quo states they tend to not like incumbents very much. The tend to not be always super satisfied with how things are going in the country where Pennsylvania's bit more pro establishment. So sometimes being the change candidate is good in a state like Wisconsin, which by the way actually not wind up helping trump this year. But even with these shifts, the democratic coalition relying more on voters of color and the anti-establishment leanings of Wisconsin is the result of twenty sixteen were just plain weird both parties grossly underperformed African. American. Turnout.
"wisconsin" Discussed on Women belong in the House
"To be helpful for the Democrats. So why the swing in Wisconsin specifically. As we mentioned earlier Wisconsin wasn't natural trump country. He decisively lost the primary to Ted Cruz by thirteen points and then underperforms Mitt, Romney's losing outcomes. Here's Charlie. Again. I think that the Baldwin election might have been an indication of which way things were going because that that felt like it was about trump Republican candidate ran very very trumpy and then you had a supreme court election earlier this year the famous election that took place during the pandemic and what was really striking to me was the the turnout and the the mail effort by the Democrats this is something to keep in mind it used to be the Conservatives Republicans owned those elections I mean we always used to win those elections and so for the Democrats to pull out and they won, they don't want they one bit. Which tells me the Democrats have gotten their act together in terms of enthusiasm and in terms of using early voting away that they didn't before. So I ate I. think that that that's what makes Wisconsin. So significant is all of these national things I think come to play here. What it boils down to is Wisconsin is hyper competitive. It's like appreciated. Can of Pop of American political divisiveness Laura Dresser is the associate director and a Labor economist with cows a think tank associated with the University of Wisconsin Madison. We'll hear from her more going forward. She studies the evolutions in the labor market and inequality within the state. Here's what. She had to say about how Wisconsin has been changing over the last several years but everything that's true about economic restructuring I think is a little clear and a little amplified here or there's a few things that are just really important to the way we think about what is the working class? What is racial disparity what what are what do unions do? And Wisconsin has had. Really. Profound changes in each one of those things right in a way that is instructive or representative of. This national context. NEAT. Agreed that Wisconsin reflects many of the tensions that are currently at play in our political landscape. Wisconsin it to where like you kind of have these offsetting groups traditions, right that wind up producing a competitive state, right? Because you do have this kind of progressive tradition if you will, in Wisconsin competing against the kind of more kind of Trumpian kind of rural American kind of more republican-leaning tradition. Now you have a lot of college students in University of Wisconsin obviously in Dane, county on the other hand suburbs of Milwaukee are unusually conservative. Historically, it's more like a series of like minorly quirky and weird trends that kind of wind up producing a very competitive election. To those inside the state, it's not immediately obvious what version of Wisconsin they're going to end up being or at least which side will be more persuasive in this election. This was always going to be a tough state for the Democrats to win back. But I also think it's representative of of the shift that you had nationally that you have. Areas that used to vote for war a Democrats that switched to trump twenty sixteen. So in northern Wisconsin, we have a number of those Obama Obama trump counties. The Dilemma Wisconsin is which which Wisconsin are we I mean we the Wisconsin that elects Ron Johnson to the Senate or the Wisconsin Lx Tammy. Baldwin to the Senate, we're kind of both of that were capable of going in all directions and all of our elections tend to be very, very close in while Wisconsin is still trying to figure out who it is the current election hangs in the balance. If you look at all the states where Biden has a very, very strong shot right now you get up to two, hundred, sixty, nine votes in the electoral college you need to add one more state to get two, hundred, seventy and the state with the biggest opportunity for Biden is Wisconsin. If you look at trump's map, he's gotTa get two, hundred, seventy, his his own campaign actually said in a briefing last year either we win Wisconsin and we win the election or we lose Wisconsin and we lose the election. It is the state balanced on a knife edge that could tip either way and bring the entire White House with him. Trump's mapped. The White House runs through Wisconsin and thebenz point. It's not a guarantee that he'll repeat success in the state. Here's nate again on what the polls are showing US election still pretty uncertain Wisconsin. Looks. A little better for Biden than some others where like. Florida Pennsylvania have polled more closely. Lately we're still pretty environment it wouldn't take that much for trump to win the electoral college. Again, I guess what I'd say the popular vote would be a bigger ask. On election night say Wisconsin is the first State that reports in This fantasy scenario I'm striking if Wisconsin's the first state that reports. And trump has one wisconsin again. Are you then significantly more likely to believe that he will end up winning the election overall if trump wins Wisconsin again trump wins Wisconsin again than I would imagine he's a reasonably clear favourite to win the election for sure. Would you feel the same way if it was announced right away the one Wisconsin. Sure Yeah. I mean because you tend to move together right. So if Biden has one Wisconsin that probably means Biden's also one Michigan Pennsylvania Minnesota at that point, you're kind of well on your way to winning the electoral. College. Over the next few episodes, I'm going to explore what makes Wisconsin Wisconsin what led to Wisconsin's two, thousand sixteen transformation and what does this transformation mean for the country this November Next week on winning Wisconsin we start with the Scott Walker. His dismantling of the unions from the governor's mansion and the transformation of the Wisconsin Republican Party. The one thing to understand about Wisconsin I've told people is that going back to two, thousand ten, we always felt we were sort of a ground zero American politics that full act ten experience kind of heard everything in the place. This is a state where the politics has been very intense for very long now. I mean it's been the last decade We we were intense before Donald, trump came along. Those Walker years were they were they were. There was something. For many people, it represented a kind of turning point of a breaking of that kind of the Wisconsin the past where nothing like that would be tempted to just ram something through and became the norm. I was at the Legislature Manny Times where stuff was just rammed through in the middle of the night like like a Banana Republic really. Later this season on winning Wisconsin. Just come on I guess like the most that bigoted president that I've I've ever seen in in some president's own blades. What we're going to be left with has a legacy from this call. Is massive drastic recession and not just in the US but worldwide. And that's GonNa take a long time to dig out from, and that's going to have an impact on all kinds of channels, including food and dairy. Any politics never keep anger commitment. Really can all come down to black voters in the city of Milwaukee Ten had delivered Wisconsin for Donald Trump I still struggle with how do we go from being the Paul Ryan Republican Party.
"wisconsin" Discussed on Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show
"Learn more at xfinity dot com slash Fi. Well White Police officer in Kenosha. Wisconsin. I can't believe we're we're doing another story like this I can't believe it. In Kenosha Wisconsin a white police officer opened fire on an unarmed black man who was simply walking away from him shooting him point blank seven times and it's all on video. The officer involved shooting went down Sunday on your fortieth and twenty eight th avenue in Kenosha where witnesses say the victim was simply breaking up a fight when cops were called to the scene it's unclear what unfolded from there But this video captures the crucial twenty seconds. You see the man walking away from a few officers who appear to be telling him to stop with guns drawn. He makes he makes his way around a car in a non threatening manner. He opens the door and attempts to get inside one of the cops grabbed hold of his shirt, and for some inexplicable reason, he unload seven rounds at arm's length. On I, saw the video. I saw the video and. Of course, you know you gotta gotTa wait. For them to do the investigation come up with a story on the video. The man is he's on one side of the car on a tree law comes around all the way round by the front, their ordering him to stop all he does is keep walking. They shoot this man in his back when he opens the car door. Why these policemen couldn't grab him try to subdue him how about stop and shoot him in leg. Few. I didn't have a weapon. He wasn't doing anything life threatening to the police officers is playing on the video man and you know what man it's just getting to the point where you know what I'm going. GonNa stop saying it's a few bad officers just making it bad for the rest of the good officers. It's a lot of bad officers it here. It's a lot of because happening too frequently. Is Not, a fear. Is Not a few. It's a lot of bad officers out here because it just keeps happening. Yeah. Now according to the video and me and Jay Washer Jason what they do was they felt threatened that he was opening the door to possibly get a weapon. They say that. But you could have shot him in his leg or you could shot him one time you shop just man seven times. By. So miracle reports say. He was taken to the hospital fighting for. So he living. Up Blake, that's his name multiple reports On social media in a couple of news outlets are saying that that is his name Jacob and he is a father, a very young man St. Twenty nine years old twenty, nine. So while it's like, they don't care they don't care. They don't can call A. Cold blood. See in our back. Listen to me to shoot a man in the back unarmed at has no weapon. It doesn't make any sense if you're that close to grab his shirt, why don't you grab him is four yards. Fo- cops there it does no one. Do any three of me and my friends weaned trade and we sixty. If Me Blue and big-league is dad you're not going to whip us. I it's just so sickening. You know it's like we we've run out of words to. It's it's the way they do business when it comes to black people, it's not about. It's the way they do business with black people stop killing black people. Unarmed in the back who is not threatening to you. Aubrey was killed by some men vigilantes. Oh George floored which killed Brianna Taylor was killed. This man is killed well, we don't know if he's dead yet but this shooting was was unnecessary if you close enough to grab by the t shirt grab him. What happened to tackling? What? Lay. If you wanted to stop shooting in the late we can deal with that better. Because he didn't obey their orders. Right Jay saying, that's exactly what that does. All right. All right. We'll be back with more of the Steve Harvey Morning Show right after this you're listening to. Morning Show. How did the world's greatest entrepreneurs find their way to such prominent positions of success. I'm Jeff Rosenthal in art of the Hustle, my podcast from iheartradio I, sit down to chat with the cultural innovators in magnates shaping our future from the CO founder of the Black Lives Matter Movement to the former CEO of twitter join. US each week as we discussed the insights and critical advice shaped all of their lives listen to the art of the Hustle on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Guys, it's bobby bones I host the bobby bones show and pretty much always sleepy because I wake up at three o'clock in the morning a couple of hours. Later I, get my friends together we get into a room and a radio show we share our lives we tell our stories we try to find as much good in the world that we possibly can, and we look through the news of the day that you care about. Also your favorite country artists are always stopping by to hang out and share their lives and music too..
"wisconsin" Discussed on Your Presidential Playlist
"Welcome back to your presidential playlist. I'm your host, Emily Tisch sussman for those joining us for the first time. This podcast is your definitive guide to the twenty twenty presidential election explained by the women who know it best this season, we're examining the states that will decide the election, the swing states, and how regardless of where you live. You can make a difference as always our experts are women who are deeply entrenched in the state. Today we're in Wisconsin and the Democrats finally have a VP candidate Senator Kamala Harris Wisconsin will only ten of the hundred and one electoral votes were examining this season played a pivotal role in the two thousand sixteen presidential election trump won the state by less than one percentage point that's less than twenty three thousand votes shocking many thought the state would go to Clinton the Clinton campaign received a lot of flack for Clinton's failure to travel to the battleground state. Wisconsin is back in the headlines for twenty twenty a New York Times article from July noted that Biden was running quote risk adverse campaign in. Wisconsin and so far. It appears to be paying off polling shows Biden leading in Wisconsin but after twenty, sixteen Democrats aren't taking any chances investing early in the state and even choosing Milwaukee as the site of the convention kicking off this week. But as with a lot of things, Kobe has gotten in the way. Now, the convention is almost entirely virtual Wisconsin is home to nearly six million people and in terms of who makes up that six million. There are a couple of interesting comparisons to the general public of the United States. Wisconsin Whiter than the general public and slightly older than the national average. The counties around Madison. The state capital are the most solidly democratic in the state accounting for about half the counties that Clinton won in two thousand sixteen. Wisconsin's other major city Milwaukee is where a majority of Wisconsin's black voters reside between the two, thousand, twelve and two thousand sixteen general elections. Black voter turnout fell by nineteen percent a significant enough margin that had black turnout held to twenty twelve levels in two thousand, Sixteen Clinton would have won the state covert has had a significant impact on the state. Between February and June Wisconsin lost ten percent of jobs and economic activity began to rebound in late April to June. That recovery has since stalled the food accommodations industries have been especially hard hit politically Wisconsin is divided at the state level. The governor is a recently elected Democratic governor Tony Everts who beat incumbent Republican Scott Walker but the state legislature in Wisconsin remains majority Republican, which has caused some tensions around the pandemic response this summer, the Wisconsin Supreme Court struck down Abors A. Stay at home order and Republican lawmakers refused to make any changes to the primary election in April when the April primaries were held with Corona virus in full swing problems were seen across the state from pole closures to long lines to missing absentee ballots. So understandably, there's a lot of concern around voting in November although voters can use absentee ballots election officials worth the short turnaround time for the ballots to be processed and the overwhelming number of absentee ballots requested could lead to inaccurate..
"wisconsin" Discussed on What Next | Daily News and Analysis
"Spontaneous Conga line snaking through a packed convention floor. Instead this week, a cory zoom handoff will be how Democrats officially nominate Joe Biden to be their presidential candidate. Let it suffice to say this is a long way from Milwaukee Wisconsin. A place. Democrats thought they'd be celebrating the Twenty Twenty Democratic National Convention. Just a few months ago. A location journalist Dan Calvin says was picked for a very specific reason obviously holding the convention there was. A symbol that the Democratic Party was trying to atone for. Sin Of Ignoring Wisconsin in Twenty Sixteen Dan Kaufman is a native wisconsinite and has written at length about Wisconsin. Politics for the New Yorker and in his book the fall of Wisconsin Hillary Clinton was the first candidate of either party to not campaign Wisconsin during the general election since Richard Nixon in nineteen seventy two when you say didn't campaign Dan The Democratic nominee for president didn't set foot in the state of Wisconsin not during the general election now now not once. Dan Travel to Wisconsin over the last year. To Talk to the people who helped Donald Trump win the state that calls itself America's Dairyland by a whisker in two thousand sixteen, Trump one Wisconsin by about twenty three, thousand votes that year. So I think there was a recognition that they needed to pay attention to not just Wisconsin but the the rust belt states in general. Wisconsin had not voted for a Republican for President. Since, one thousand, nine, hundred, four, Ronald Reagan's forty-nine St Triumph. During his travels Dan spent a lot of time in what's called the drift Louis area, the rural southwestern part of Wisconsin home to family farms and tragedy Wisconsin lead the country and family farm bankruptcies for the past three years. That has led to really significant and serious social costs including most importantly the dramatic rise in suicides that Wisconsin had a statewide record of suicides in two, thousand seventeen and a lot of this was tied to the family farm crisis..
"wisconsin" Discussed on Amicus with Dahlia Lithwick
"I WanNa ask you one last question. That is sort of formed the backbone of so much of the discussions we've had in our election coverage in the last few months and that is just if the net effect of this isn't simply as you've said widespread vote suppression but also massive failure of confidence. The what is the point in voting? The whole system sucks now. We can add to the trash heap. It looks like the Federal Judiciary is completely biased and that both state Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court put a finger on the thumb. Put their thumb on the scale for their own team. I guess I want to ask the sort of Zeitgeist question which is how damaging is it to those norms. You talked about at the beginning when you have voters who witnessed just a spectacular failure of the franchise and just walk away from Wisconsin and everything else just saying. There's just no point the whole thing is cooked in fixed and the courts are in on it too. I think that if that takes hold that will be devastating. I feel like that that narrative has taken hold with redistricting candidly And I think that that's going to have a tremendous effect when it comes to districting After the the twenty The twenty twenty senses Frankly I feel like there's some of that about the census too I mean. The fact is the trump administration couldn't cancel the census. But it was a but but it could defunding away that you have a highly distorted result of WHO's counting. Who's not and in some sense? Wisconsin represents the same thing but in an election which is literally they couldn't cancel the election They wouldn't let it be moved but they could make it so. The voting rules were so hard for people to execute their vote under that. It's a highly distorted rea- result that you get from who voted and who didn't and in both cases you have the US Supreme Court sort of throwing. Its hands up and saying well. I guess there's really nothing for us to do here. In the case of redistricting they literally threw up their hands and said we have no role here in this case. They claimed that there was little that they could do both the but the very little they did. was counterproductive And I said this earlier and I want to repeat it. I I I wish that someone at the Supreme Court would have looked at the caption of this case and said do we really want in an election year in which we know passions are gonNA run high. And there's going to be a lot of quasi-judicial activity around voting. Do we really WANNA case entitled Republican National Committee Versus Democratic National Committee to be the case in which the conservative justices are lined up supporting the Republican National Committee effort to restrict voting rights. And for all that justice that she the chief justice has spoken about. How important it is that the judiciary not be viewed through that Lens. I really think this was just an unforced error in that in that regard in terms of public confidence. I need you to throw us a bone and tell us something happy. Talk about New Hampshire. Yeah I'll tell you a few things that are happy so in the last few weeks You know we. We settled the case with Georgia over signature matching signature matching as a part of absentee balloting. When they compare the signature on the envelope with the signature on on file with registration in many states that matching process is very opaque and does not give voters the opportunity to Have their their signature fairly judged or an opportunity to cure and we sued Georgia and Georgia settled with us. That was a positive The State of Florida settled a longstanding lawsuits that we had had with them over placing early votes centers on college campuses They had the Florida had banned Early vote centers on college campuses. So they were allowed to any public building on college campuses we sued and we won the legislature then came back and passed a new law saying that the couldn't be placed in any in any location that doesn't have a non permitted parking which was a which was a way of again getting back to college campuses and the Secretary of State of Florida settled that case with us. Centigrade issued a new directive saying that law does not prohibit putting a early voting sense on sites on college campuses and so That was a real positive and then just yesterday. Just the other day rather Just earlier this week we settled the case I'm not settled. We WanNA case in federal district in State Court in New Hampshire where the court struck down. Senate bill three which was the domicile law that was passed by Republicans in two thousand seventeen and effort to prevent a college students from voting in New Hampshire so these were all good developments on on the voting rights front and we continue to litigate. You know a number of cases around the country and our yeah having success in a number of them because for the most part at the at the if you if you look at these laws that are that are suppressive You know courts are still the best. Hope we have. Despite what happened in Wisconsin courts are still the best hope. We have to protect voting rights. So I have to have to make two points One is that where the political branches fail and we are seeing. The political branches failed to protect voting rights because Republicans don't want them to succeed. The federal courts have to step in its it is one of the core functions of the federal courts is to protect fundamental constitutional rights of individuals and voting rights are central among them. The second thing is just a caution to the to the audience for the future. If the if the Republican National Committee was willing to spend all of this effort and capital and money over a judicial election in Wisconsin. Just Ask Yourself. What will they be willing to do for November right? So if if if you ask yourself you know why would the RNC of gone to all of this effort for state judicial election? Just imagine what. When we'RE IN SEPTEMBER OCTOBER NOVEMBER. They will be willing to do to affect the presidential and congressional and Senate elections in November. And that's something to be concerned about. I have a few minutes left mark and I feel like what I really want you to speak to is something you scooped up yet a great piece in the Atlantic that said I I'm summarizing. Folks should just read it but the sad this goes beyond. Just you know no excuse. Absentee balloting and mail in ballots. And you list some other things that have to change and I'm struck by the fact that part of what's happening is the window is closing clearly for either federal changes or state changes to solve the cove problem. We saw In Wisconsin. But I think what you're saying this doesn't necessarily have to be a thing that Congress lashes onto the next Release Bill. This is something that states need to be pressed to do. Am I misreading you are you? Are you saying that in his foot race to get very limited amount of time to get this resolved in time for the two thousand election pushing for massive federal money to do? This may not be our best bet that this is something we should be doing. State-by-state as quick as we can so I think it's too I think it's two different pieces number. One Congress needs appropriate money to the states so that they can fund the elections. The fact is the postal service. Right now is set to run out of money in in June. It plays a vital role in elections and states right now taxed under the pressure of Kovic for as a as a health epidemic and that's taxing their budgets and remember most states have a balanced budget requirement in their state constitutions. So they need money in order to simply be able to do the blocking and tackling to hold elections. But but you're right the the We can't overlook the things that states cannon to do to make sure that not only is there access to vote by mail that there is safe and available access to in person voting. We saw seven and a half hour long lines before covert in Texas. We saw long lines in in In California before cove and we obviously saw debilitating long lines in Wisconsin During covert and are. St- election system is quite rickety and it is not set up to handle the kind of external pressures and shocks that. Come from high turnout or from Covadonga from other other crises so there are some simple things states can do that. Shouldn't be partisan but we'll see like you know making sure that we use that. We recruit a new generation of homework or so in two thousand eighteen More than two thirds of all poll workers over the age of sixty Twenty five percent were over the age of seventy one things. I propose in that. Atlantic piece for example is that colleges and universities give credit give course credit to students who are willing to be trained and work as election workers and that they received pay as well that states turn their civil servants not their political appointees but their civil servants into poll workers have them be trained. We expand curbside voting So that people can vote in their cars right. We set up the voting booth so to speak right out right on the right on the street corner or out on the curb right. The school you get checked in you get a ballot in your car. You voted I. I would note that the national review had an article online That that That endorse this. That I tweeted. I was happy to say that I thought that made sense so so there are things that we that states can do. Now that should be non ideological that don't help Democrats or Republicans. Just help everyone vote. Nobody wins when a city goes from having a hundred eighty some odd polling locations to five. I mean candidate may win or a party may win but but the system really fails and democratic election and and Republican local election officials need to ban together to take these kinds of steps to ensure that everyone wants to vote by mail can do so that ballot counted and not be rejected aronie asleep and people who prefer to vote in person and they're going to be people who prefer to vote in person. They need to be given the opportunity to do so without waiting in lines without jeopardizing their health. So what I'm hearing you say and I. This is my last question I really want to hear. You refine refined. What you just said. Is that folks who are out there who are crestfallen heartbroken about Wisconsin and who are feeling like the fixes in and this is certainly not something that can be remediated by November of two thousand twenty. You're saying yes and call call and make sure that the next bailout package has funds to give the states a chance at having fair elections and also make sure that your state is coming online to do the kinds of things that can be done that materially help and all that stuff is where we should be putting our energy right. Not Get drunk and give up. I'm not pessimistic about about holding free and fair elections in November. I I'm realistic. I'm realistic that. This is not going to be a bipartisan endeavor. I'm realistic that. The Republican National Committee announced a ten million dollar fund to Fight Voting Rights in court. I'm realistic about the fact that they went to the Supreme Court in Wisconsin and I'm realistic. Donald Trump is going to continue to demagogue on this issue in that many. Republican officials are GonNA follow his lead but I'm also realistic that there are many hard-working election officials at the state and local level. Who are Democrats and Republicans who want their elections to succeed? I hear occasionally from local Republican election officials who are upset by what they hear at the national level. Because they don't they they've committed their lives to make sure that election succeed in their communities. So it's going to be a combination of Congress providing the funds and people keeping the pressure on this issue and not letting it fade into the background making it a priority that that this is something that that we need to focus on and then finally I remain optimistic. Notwithstanding Wisconsin that the federal courts in the state courts remain the best chance to make sure that voting rights are protected. And so I and others will be bringing those cases in court And hopefully we will have more results like we recently had an in New Hampshire. Marc Elias is chair of the Perkins Coup Political Law Group. He represents the Democratic National Committee and represented the Democratic Party of Wisconsin in this week's Litigation he is also one of the foremost elections. Experts in this country has been working so hard to make this system work mark. You gave us a lot of your time. We are so grateful for what you do. Thank.
"wisconsin" Discussed on Amicus with Dahlia Lithwick
"He is also considered one of the leading recount and post-election attorneys in the country so there's another factual problem that I want you to clear up because the other thing that the procurement team. It's worth saying. This is an unsigned opinion right. This is Bush v Gore again. Nobody's name is on the majority Opinion Ruth Bader Ginsburg writes the descent unsurprisingly signed by the courts quote Unquote Liberal Wing. But one of the things that the court says over and over in the procurement mark is that the plaintiff the residents here had never requested the extension to return ballots after April seven. That the relief that Had been given was not sought and the sense is will. That's not right but can you help us understand. This seems like a profound misreading on. Someone's part yeah. I think that the that the the majority mis-read this either. Because of the rush they were in although it's in our briefs that we submitted a To the to the court so it was available to them. But let me just give you if I can the two minute version of what happened here. Because it also casts I think Judge Connolly in a much more sympathetic or or correct light so the the original lawsuit that we filed for the DNC and the Wisconsin Democratic Party asked for a number of deadlines to be extended extended absentee ballot application deadline. Extend the absentee ballot receipt deadline and extend the postmark divine. So here. Here's here's why the Conservatives were able to play a little bit of sleight of hand in the majority opinion which again your observation on. This is like that on that it was procurement. At some point. Someone should dig into why? Why why it was an unsigned opinion of the five justices in the majority Because that's unusual that's an unusual circumstance but but So we found this judge commonly held a hearing and he noted that other. It's regular terms. Wisconsin law required ballots to be received by eight PM on Election Day. So that Wisconsin didn't have a postmark rule. It had a receipt rule. So what Judge Conley actually said was. I can't give you a postmark deadline as a relief because Wisconsin law doesn't allow for a postmark deadline for relief. What I can do is I can move the receipt by Date to the thirteenth. Because that is a more modest steps to take in light of the policy preferences. The State of Wisconsin has set out to go by receipt gate rather than Bhai Postmark. So Judge Judge Connolly in moving the receipt date to the thirteenth was actually trying to be a judicial conservative. He was trying not to do radical surgery to the to the statute we then and this is where the majority opinion is is incorrect. We then embraced that that remedy we then said yes. In fact people ought to be able to vote and as long as it's by the thirteenth count so we we did. In fact request that relief it was not the initial relief we requested but as you know and as any of the lawyers in the audience now you oftentimes amend or or alter the relief sought by facts and circumstances so as the hearing went on and we're hearing from voters and hearing from election officials as to what was possible and also what was administratively possible and what the burdens being faced by the voters. Were we adopted the idea of of of the received by the by the thirteenth as early as a remedy. That's why the seventh circuit understood that and upheld judge. Connolly's relief because it provided fuller relief to voters but it was actually a more modest judicial action because it didn't require rewriting the statute one of the things that people comment by what the Supreme Court did in imposing postmark or granting the postmarked by which was impart the original relief we saw it the Supreme Court actually sort of just created that there is no statutory basis upon which the Supreme Court imposed the postmark deadline. That is in fact. Part of the original relief we sought but it was a much more judicially a interventionist step than what the District Court had actually thought so just to be super clear. What you're saying is when it came to sort of judicial creation of new elections law. It's actually the Supreme Court who does it. Not Judge Connolly at the District Court Andrea present. No question 'cause that's why and by the way that's why the conservative southern circuit agreed with Judge Connolly. John connally was actually not really doing much surgery with the law. He was addressing the balance between voter rights to be able to vote and the existing structure of Wisconsin Law. And that's why it was a relatively minimalist. It was particularly creative or activist act on his part which lies seven circuit adopted. The Supreme Court sort of did this weird thing. Which is it actually took a much more interventionist activist position in remedy but actually then disenfranchise. More voters judge connally was enfranchising. Voters doing the least amount of change to Wisconsin law the. Us Supreme Court did the most changes to constant law and enfranchise fewer voters. So so this is all feeling very technical but then I think the court pivots in starts to cite this case pursell versus Gonzales. The longstanding rule that courts should be reluctant to jump into election procedures close to the date of the election and they make this argument that you know. Oh it's it's kind of the Bush. V Gore argument again. You Know Oh we have to just all lean back because You know it's not appropriate for the courts to intercede and of course it sort of ignores the fact that there's already chaos but can you talk for a minute about. I think there is this very again sneaky and pernicious sleight of hand here. Where the implication is judge Connolly is interfering with elections in introducing chaos into the system. What we're doing is not that. I think that that's a longstanding Roberts. Court trick I wonder if you could talk about that for a SEC. Yeah and again. I think you're spot on which is why half the people say to me that the opinion was authored by Cavanaugh. And the other half tell me it must have been authored by Roberts because it does have cavenaugh would make sense. Because it's his the application because of the circuit came up to justice. Cavanaugh Roberts though you're correct it reads more like a Roberts kind of lamenting that just have to get involved. So I I don't know who wrote the procure opinion But but you're entirely right the the issue with the doctrine for your audience who doesn't know basically says the judges should not make last minute changes to election laws that are going to confuse voters and therefore potentially prejudice them. That's the idea the idea that if if if voters have an expectation about how the election system is GONNA run making last minute changes through. The courts can have a detrimental effect on voters. Because they they can they can be thrown off per cell really has now been turned from a shield to protect voters By the Roberts Court into a sword to essentially disenfranchise voters. Which which really if you think about it makes no sense. Why would you worry about Changes IN ELECTION PROCEDURES. That are going to enfranchise voters right. The original purpose of pursell was was literally the reverse. But but in any event What's interesting about the pursell argument that they make is twofold number one? A large number voters believed after Judge collies order and after the seven circuits order that in fact they now had till the thirteenth. So you know the Supreme Court then and I think there's a pretty good due process claim for one of those voters if their ballot is now not counted after the election. To say look I was relying on a on a federal court order. And how can you now snatch that from me by another federal court so so I think the pursell argument really cuts the other way But in addition to that Going back to the point that we were just talking about about whether the lower court or the supreme court was the more activist here. The Supreme Court interjected the postmarked by India's opinion for the first time that was not in either the Conley opinion or the or the seventh circuit opinion and yet that escaped personnel. I mean think about it so you know if I'm a lower court and by the way this is an argument that you'll see me making in other states now moving forward that we're we're we're we are urging state where we are urging courts to strike down received by deadlines and replaced him with postmark deadline. So that more voters can vote when those states now say in federal courts per cell doesn't allow that because that's a last-minute election change. My answer is well Spring Court allowed that they'd act. This record initiated it the day before the election so apparently enfranchising voters in that way doesn't raise arguments. Can you segue for one minute into telling us what happened on the ground? Particularly you know in Wisconsin voters I said in my introduction. People were standing in line People horrific stories about people you know having to abandon ailing Loved ones to go vote. But one of the things that you've been arguing for a long long long time. Is that all this disenfranchisement whether it's through voter id or whatever else Falls hardest on the poorest Americans on African Americans and native Americans and Latino voters. Can you give us some sense? I know we don't have any kind of comprehensive tally of what it looked like. But we know what happens when urban areas go from hundreds of polling places to five? What's your sense of justice? Ginsburg said thousands of voters will be disenfranchised in her dissent. Is that what in fact looks like how it's going to be more than thousands it's GonNa be tens of thousands. It could be even higher than that but it's more than it's more. I don't want to disagree with Justice Ginsburg or anything. But but it's but it's the absentee ballot situation itself is going to be in the tens of thousands. I mean forget. Forget about the fact that Milwaukee had five open pulling locations in the entire city and we saw debilitating long lines. And yeah the absentee ballot Cut off their. You've we've all seen stories. Post offices hadn't even delivered the absentee ballots For people to vote by election day there was massive Set of issues involving the Postal Service. Which is under tremendous strain already to coverted And you know the requirement of a witness you know made it impossible for many voters to vote And that's before you get to the in person voting and we saw hours long lines and the fact is that nobody wants to wait in line for five hours even when the skies are blue the birds are chirping and everyone is healthy. They certainly are not gonNA WANNA wait in line for five hours when there's a pandemic going on and people have to risk their lives so I think this is going to be among the largest if not the largest suppressive of voting episode in my professional career You know just in terms of total numbers. Pink it's going to be a staggering number of voters were ended up being disenfranchised and before we leave Wisconsin..
"wisconsin" Discussed on Amicus with Dahlia Lithwick
"What it meant in Wisconsin. It is a pleasure to welcome Marc Elias back to the podcast in no small measure. Because I think there are real lessons to be learned from last Tuesday and I WANNA make sure that we're learning the right one so mark without further ado welcome back. Thank you for having me. It's always a pleasure and I want to start if we could by defining the problem and by that I mean I've had so much mail from people worrying that Donald Trump is going to in the manner of Authoritarians everywhere cancel the twenty twenty election. But that's not actually the issue correct correct so I have a good news and bad news for for your audience The good news is Donald. Trump can't cancel the election. He can't move the election Federal Election Day is set As the Tuesday following the first Monday in November and we will have an election on that day The only way that that date could move would be a new act of Congress and obviously that's That's not going to happen so that's good news. The bad news is we're going to have an election on the Tuesday following the first Monday in November. And we're going to have that election whether as a country we are prepared for it or we're not and so whatever needs to focus on is how do we take the steps now to make sure that when we get to November. We don't have a circumstance like we had in Wisconsin But without any of the remedies that might otherwise be available to state in the primaries where they could for example move a primary in November. There's moving the election so we've got to got to spend the time now to get ready so that we don't have a problem In November so maybe mark I can put the same question through a slightly different frame and that is to say throughout the last couple of shows. We've been talking about. How in a weird way federalism and decentralisation generally of the United States government has been a reason we haven't seen a lot of massive power grabs violations of civil liberties. But the problem is that federalism states rates decentralisation particularly in the election context where you have a Affiliate highly politicized county state municipal systems. All working it means you're not going to have a big sort of Viktor. Orban style power. Grab but you're just going to have a whole bunch of chaos partisanship and self dealing. It's not exactly the civil liberties problem we're talking about. It's a different set of problems right. It is and you know the the system of democracy in this country works not only because there are rules and laws but because there are norms and expected behavior and what we've learned is that Donald Trump doesn't abide those norms. And that's that's played out in a whole host of areas where we've seen really really problematic Conduct on the on. The part of the president that among other things led to his impeachment But elections are no different right elections start with the assumption that everyone wants the same thing which is a free and fair election and everybody wants the same thing which is every eligible voter to be able to participate in have their vote counted and the problem we are facing is that The Republican Party under Donald Trump has simply deviated off that norm Try to imagine the Republican Party. Even of George W Bush a few years ago taking the position publicly that that it took a in the courts in Wisconsin. Which is that notwithstanding the fact that there was a pandemic notwithstanding the fact that there were massive po closures Notwithstanding the fact that voters couldn't get witnesses to witness absentee ballots that they were going to both insist that the election move forward And also move forward under terms that guaranteed that large swath of the population wouldn't be able to participate so so you know what worries me is. Yes the problems of federalism For sure but it's a particular kind problem which is that. The president is states is standing in the White House at the podium. Saying that voters shouldn't be able to participate under some circumstances and Republican elected officials all the way from from from Senate house down to governors secretaries of state are hearing that message. And that's the problem that that that even though it's a federal system it is still one that is that we're the signals coming from the top are really loud and clear and I guess. We'd be remiss if we didn't know that. Donald Trump was seating this argument even during the two thousand sixteen election. He was saying there's going to be massive vote fraud. There's going to be buses of illegal voters. He was prepared. I think to contest the results of the presidential election in two thousand sixteen just on this absolutely fallacious proposition that there is massive voter fraud and that Democrats steal election so this in some sense I mean. I think you're right that there's a norm that's collapsed but in another sense this far predated Kovin. Oh I totally agree I. I've been I've been talking about this for months now. The the only difference is that in light of Cova people are now much more Focused on this but I am already litigating. More than twenty voting cases in fourteen and those predated covert. Because you're right. This is a message that. Donald Trump and the Republican National Committee have been sending loud and clear for many months or years The only thing that's changed from two thousand sixteen to now is number one. He has decided that The the problem he was prepared to say was in place in twenty in two thousand sixteen was large numbers of undocumented. Immigrants Voting in person and now the focus of his species allegations is voting by mail The only other change is really is a really really significant one though. Which is that in. Two Thousand Sixteen wasn't clear how much the Republican Party was willing to sign on to that. So you know. If Donald Trump had had lost the election it was to be seen how much other Republicans were have signed onto the notion This is Donald Trump's Republican party And so when Donald Trump says we have problems with vote by mail. You know you start to see State. Local officials Echo that and so. It's a much more problematic circumstance than in two thousand sixteen mark. One of the reasons I wanted to talk to you is because I think Wisconsin is both its own pathological voting nightmare and also because I think as many elections experts have told us in the last couple of days. Wisconsin is every state it's emblematic of save the states that already have really effective vote by mail systems. This could happen anywhere and I wondered if we could pry those two things apart for a minute. Because in one sense Wisconsin is a long-standing Canary in the coal mine on Vote Suppression on voter. Id on Gerrymandering all the stuff that you work on. So let's do one cut at this in which you talk about the ways in which you know for instance the extreme Gerrymander from twenty eleven. That somehow has Wisconsin. Republicans holding two thirds of the seats in the state assembly. Although they win less than half the votes that's really Wisconsin specific as is some of the vote suppression stuff around voter. Id So tell us which parts of what we saw. This week are really specific to the crazy way. Wisconsin has been operating on voting. So look I think that. Wisconsin is both an outlier but also speaks to the problems in many many states. So yeah there's no question. That there is reinforcing Problems in democracy. Where you have were you start with a highly gerrymandered state legislature that then reinforces that Gerrymander by gerrymandering further than reinforces that by having voting rules. That make it even more difficult to overcome those gerrymanders right. So these are all kind of reinforcing in some sense Incumbent Party protections right you you I make the seats hard for for you to lose just based on partisan divide and then you make them even harder to lose based on who can vote. And then the other thing in Wisconsin. Of course that we saw that was underlying most of of the. I think the fervor on the Republican side was a state. Supreme Court seat was up. So then you pay particular attention to your State Supreme Court because it would be the one body at this point that could undo the gerrymandering or the vote suppression by interpreting the State Constitution to prohibit those things so it is very much a reinforcing circle that said. Wisconsin is not a completely unique circumstance. I mean you can look at North Carolina. You could look at Florida You can look at Texas And you know those legislatures certainly give the Wisconsin legislature or run for the money when it comes to passing Voter Suppression Laws. And you know. Litigation has improved the the Gerrymander in North Carolina but it is still an overwhelmingly Republican legislature. Florida had fair district amendments. That made the gerrymandering somewhat better. But you still have a system where the Republicans control both houses of legislature and the governor. And of course Texas Your remains a perennial problem both with respect to gender gerrymandering in voting rights. And I'm just making those states out I could. I could add to that other states As well but but all of these democracy principles are reinforcing. They are all aimed to have the same goal. Which is to put a thumb on the scale to to prevent Everyone's vote from counting equally. And one way you prevent everyone's vote from nucleus through Gerrymandering one way you prevent. Everyone's vote from accounting. Equally is by Putting restrictions on how votes are counted and one way the most extreme oil is simply by preventing people from being able to vote at all. And that's the that's the most extreme That we saw in Wisconsin. This but but they're all the same kind and it's worth. I think saying you flicked it but let's let's pick this a little bit more that one of the things that made this extraordinarily salient for the state. Republican Party was that there was a state Supreme Court seat very contested State Supreme Court seat. That was up for grabs in this primary that no lesser person than Donald Trump had weighed in on this election. And I guess I'm wondering how much I always feel as though the conversation about whether we should be electing State Supreme Court justices is sidelined in the conversation around voting rights. But is this one of those moments where you can say. Oh my God. Why do we have partisan races states for Supreme Court justices? That will someday do exactly what the State Supreme Court did here which is weighing in on an election. Yeah look I think that I think it's really problematic that that we have elected judges in this country to the extent we do And I think that the notion of having elected judiciaries at the state level worked for a long Long period of time in our country because those elections were not partisan is in other words they were not. They were relatively sleepy affairs. You know you'd have. Typically someone will get appointed to a position they would stand for some kind of retention election and there wouldn't really be large money involved or a partisan partisan forces but but again that's a norm that broke down like that that was never a law that was just a norm. And now you see what you see. And then when the Wisconsin Supreme Court is is then put in the position of deciding whether or not to postpone the election. Well of course it divides on the on the partisan or ideological lines because it has become such a focal point in the partisan divide over democracy in Wisconsin. So let's also break those two out because we had one action that was On Monday the governor Democratic Governor Tony Evers who had been begging the legislature to do something Without any results finally just took it upon himself to cancel election To bump it forward to June that was blocked as you just said by the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Then there was separate litigation. Which is the.
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"Even as the state voted for Barack Obama twice. Republican governor Scott Walker has won his reelection bid. They kept winning the time in four years. Republican Scott Walker has won a statewide election for governor. So by the time you get two thousand. Eighteen major shift happen overnight Wisconsin voters. You've elected a Democrat governor. When Walker loses his reelection bid to Tony vers? The race was almost too close to call but overnight Democrat Tony. Evers narrowly beat out. Gop incumbent Scott Walker denying him a third term Republicans in the state legislature have already learned a lesson from the years prior. That's more important to wield power than it is to be seen as a political compromiser. How does that play out? When all of a sudden there is a democratic governor in Iverson's who I assume wants to start making compromises with the Republican legislature the Republicans make clear. That is not what they're interested in. Republicans stung by their losses in. The midterms are moving forward with last ditch efforts to hang onto power. It's happening in at least two swing states Wisconsin and Michigan. The country is really watching this morning. As lawmakers here in Wisconsin work through the night to amend and vote on a number of bills. Are Josh Brighter as a special session? That happens before he takes office. Republicans do kind of classic power grab Wisconsin's Republican controlled. Legislature passed a series of bills late Wednesday night. That would limit the powers of incoming Democratic governor. Tony Day pass a number of bills that limit the power of the incoming Democratic governor and take away things that were available to his Republican predecessor bills would put lawmakers in charge of litigation which would effectively block incoming Democratic governor Tony Evers and the Democratic Attorney General elect from withdrawing the state from a lawsuit to overturn obamacare. So either is not. Have the power to make key appointments and another bill would require the governor to get permission from the legislature to ban. Guns Everts would not have the power to regulate guns in the same way that existed for his predecessor the also limited early voting which is a tool of access to the ballot box. That sometimes helped Democrats because more people in bigger areas can get to the polls. These are all really nakedly. Partisan Republicans didn't really even try to hide it. We don't want to usurp his power. That's never been our goal. Our goal is just to guarantee that we have an opportunity to sit at the table negotiate and do it fairly. It puts us on an equal playing field as the legislature. And I think that's a positive step for the state of Wisconsin so that is the political backdrop. You're saying for this current battle over how to hold a primary in the middle of a pandemic. Yeah it is that sense of affirmation the sense of rightness that Republicans enter into everts administration with and allows them to openly flout. The typical means a political pressure that the governor tries to put on them around the election. The legislature came in they gavel. Ben For about ten seconds gavel. `Bout and they moved on. They said that was not a serious proposal. Instead the time for the proposals like that whereas several weeks ago when the crisis began so what happens after that special session that minute long special session about the election. Well there's been a significant amount of legal legislation that has surrounded all of this political action so much going on here at the state capital today. Let's break down and give you a brief summary of what happened today. 'cause it's been a wild day politically. There was a court ruling. That basically affirmed that the Republicans probably have control over a win. The election should be held the ruling expanded access to absentee-voter Republicans appealed that straight to the US Supreme Court and Monday started with Governor Eve irs issuing executive order pushing back the spring election from tomorrow to June ninth morning governor. Tony Iverson issued an executive order to postpone tomorrow's election due to Cova one thousand nine concerns. The bottom line is that I have an obligation to keep people safe. The governor makes his most drastic step unilaterally postponing Tuesday's election until June Claiming he asked the emergency powers to do so. This is a front the Republicans Republican legislators mounted a legal challenge immediately and they immediately initiate emergency legislation. Going straight to the Wisconsin Supreme Court saying the governor does not have the right to do this and just about an hour ago. The State Supreme Court issued its ruling saying that indeed. The election will happen tomorrow. The court agree with them ruling just hours later that the governor did not have the power to postpone the Tuesday primary meaning. The election will go on in person today. You know said I'm struck by the fact that earlier on you told us the Democrats Republicans in the state they had basically been on the same page about this primary until the virus gets worse and the governor advocates for a different kind of voting system through absentee ballots and then it all breaks down and Republicans are attempting at every turn to block him now in court. And how do you explain that I mean how do Republicans in the state legislature explained Republican County chairs and folks in the state legislature? Say a couple of things. The first is at their position has changed. The doctor. Governor didn't have the power then and they don't think he has the power now to change. How the election is run. The other point is that they see Wisconsin again as a microcosm of the conservative fight. That could happen largely and what could be a new reality of how American elections are run in this pandemic era and in that view dramatically expanding the electorate in these ways are not something that Republicans are all that keen on because what they're worried about is an election in which people who may not have participated or may not have come out all of a sudden have the opportunity to do so and to cast a ballot and that kind of changes the center of power within the state. What do you mean if people participate in different numbers in bigger numbers if it changes the type of people who want to participate in the spring election? That's not necessarily always seen the biggest turnout that changes who can win and who has benefited from the systems in the past and who might benefit if they were to change along the lines of what Governor Devers is asking for. It's hard to say exactly because we're talking about an unprecedented situation. But we do know that the people who are typically benefited from early voting from early registration from online registration or vote by mail where people usually don't participate in the process. Younger voters minority voters people that lean democratic and just in the ways that Republicans Limited early voting and that special session. They had after evert is one. It's the same thought process that with more people get involved when people who typically sit out get involved that helps Democrats Do Democrats acknowledge that an absentee balloting system that is suddenly much more widespread than it has been in the past would be advantageous to them in Wisconsin? They principally try to appeal to voters using Small d democratic ideals the General Basic American principle that everyone should be given the easiest access to vote. They've tried to appeal. The people do public health measures noting. How unsafe it is for people to gather at Paul's but when you ask folks in democratic circles they know that win the electorate expanse particularly in national and statewide elections. That's usually good news for Democrats It's interesting this is not just a debate about how to vote in a pandemic although clearly. That's what's driving a lot of this but in the background from what you're saying is this other question which is whether the systems needed to vote during a pandemic may fundamentally change who votes how many people vote and which party wins exactly is not just about public health. This is about access to power and the kind of most basic fundamental principles of democracy. If the system that we have been traditionally used to can't hold what replaces it and we seem real resistance to that in this state and we may see that resistance all across the country. Why would you say that? Because it's very tempting to see this story as an anomaly right in that. The Governor of Wisconsin waited a very long time to try to postpone the state's primary perhaps too long and the state legislature is this hyper partisan conservative activist body. That is trying to use. Its power for political advantage. So all those factors would seem to make Wisconsin a bit of an outlier. What may seem like an anomaly. Right now might actually just be pacesetter and this could be a preview as to what comes for state after state.
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"Can we talk about? Why this election in Wisconsin matters because part of the reason that the governor didn't WanNa postpone the election was that there were so many things up for election wasn't just the presidential primary. We're talking about city councils seeds and may oral seats all these seats. That could have sat empty. And there's a supreme court seat too. So what are these elections about? Yes so they have more than thirty eight hundred seats on the ballots across the state and that includes nearly sixteen hundred county supervisors and officers Five hundred sixty five school district board positions. Then you've got a lot of lower court judgeships that are open and one of the issues that Iverson noted was you know we. We don't know who can exercise authority in these roles. If we don't have an election these people they're filling terms that have a limited number of years their terms are going to expire. And we don't know who can actually exercise that power anymore so that was a big reason why he didn't want to cancel the election. I think a legitimate reason and a rational reason but by far the most important race that will happen in Wisconsin on Tuesday. Is that State Supreme Court race. Why do you say that because there was constant? Supreme Court is probably the Crown Jewel of the folks effort to remake Wisconsin. I mean the cokes and their their network of donors have poured so many millions and millions of dollars into the State Supreme Court races to install very far right. Reactionary judge is on the Wisconsin Supreme Court and they have succeeded. There's currently five to two conservative majority on the court and if this election swings left and the liberal candidate wins this state Supreme Court election that will go down to a four three conservative. Majority a pretty narrow split and that leaves room for a Democrat liberal to win the next race and turn the court blue flip it create a liberal majority and then that liberal majority can start chipping away at a lot of the extreme stuff that Scott Walker and the Republican legislature have implemented over the last decade or so. So what? Is this going to look like today? I just can't imagine going to vote right now. And many Wisconsin nights cannot either so a couple of things I'll be looking at is basically. How many poll workers simply don't show up to the very few in-person polling places that remain open. I think it's GonNa be fascinating to see if places like Milwaukee and Green Bay Madison can even keep a handful of polling places running because I think a lot of people who are supposed to show up to help are going to be scared you know. They're disproportionately elderly people who work the polls in America. They don't get paid very much. They tend to be people with lots of leisure time on their hands. So old people and they're not going to want to go and face thousands of voters who kind of crush into these these voting places and try not to infect other people are going to say. I'd rather stay home so look for catastrophes on the ground and also look at the election officials who are just swimming in piles of absentee ballots marches stern. Thank you so much for joining me. Sorry I don't have better news for you a few hours after I got off the line with Marc Joseph Stern Wisconsin Governor Eve irs announced. He was suddenly postponing the state's election due to the corona virus Republicans legislature immediately appealed to the State Supreme Court and the court ruled. The election had to go on so I called Mark Back. Can you just lay out exactly what happened here? Oh my God so all right. We got off the phone. I nine hours ago but it feels like it was years ago. I was a younger man. Okay we got off. The phone and Governor Evert issued an executive order that officially postponed the election. He said I am drawing on my legal powers to protect the health and safety of Wisconsin Nights and I am going to delay the election. Cancel in person voting tomorrow and call a special session of the legislature again and ask them to reschedule the election for June. And this is a power that governor had had admitted he did not have right. Yeah he he sort of said like basically. I'm not sure if I have this power that he was sort of playing a little real politique here. I think he recognized. The state has a very conservative and hostile Supreme Court and so he had been saying like I want this to be really clear I want The legislature to change the law. So I don't have to rest on my own shaky powers and he called the legislature into session to a special emergency session to to change the date and then the legislature immediately convened in said. Screw you Tony Evers. Were doing no such thing so he just sort of decided I might as well take a wild swing and see if I can make it work. Nothing to lose right or everything to lose depending on your perspective right Really everything because what ended up happening was Just a few hours after everts issued. This order that Wisconsin Supreme Court issued a four to decision blocking the order. Reinstating Tuesday's election and without explaining its reasoning. Basically saying the show must go on so as of this exact moment there is an election. There is in person voting in Wisconsin. Not many people may be showing up but there is a Wisconsin election on April seventh. So the people who decided that the election was going to go on. They have a way. They want the election to turn out quite absolutely absolutely they have. They openly have a vested interest in this election continuing so that the pandemic suppresses democratic votes and they get to keep their treasured colleague. Dan Kelly on the bench and they have said almost as much in public statements. Okay this conversation. It will drop into people's feeds on Tuesday morning. If I'm waking up in Wisconsin what am I doing? If you're waking up in Wisconsin. I sincerely hope that you cast an absentee ballot. More than a week ago. If you have not yet voted in Wisconsin. I have no idea what to tell you because some campaigns are saying put on your your latex gloves and your face mask and go vote and douse yourself enhance. Sanitizer and other campaigns including mayors who are up for reelection are saying. Don't vote like don't risk your life in order to cast a ballot. It is depressing that we have reached this stage. But you should not risk your health and safety. In order to exercise the franchise so it's like a really difficult. Moral DILEMMA FOR WISCONSIN. I it's and I don't know what I would do. But it's just another reason kind of vivid illustration of why this election should absolutely not be happening right now. Marches of Stern covers the courts and the law for slate minutes. After we got off the phone a second time there was one more. Update this time about how. Many absentee ballots will actually be counted in Wisconsin. Today because legally every ballot has arrived by election day pandemic or no a federal judge had tried to extend that deadline give voters an extra week to send their ballots in but on. Monday evening the. Us Supreme Court struck down that decision to give you an idea of what that means the city clerk. I talked to at the top of the show Mary Beth. She told me this right now. We're looking at thirty eight thousand. Five hundred. Sixty nine absentees. The at risk of having no possibility of being returned by election day. So those thirty eight thousand ballots just wouldn't count rate and that is just in Madison during the last presidential primary in two thousand sixteen. Mary Beth says she got four late ballots. And that's the show if you WANNA call and leave us a message. Tell us how you're doing. We'd love to hear from you. Our number is two zero. Two eight two five eight. Your voicemail will strengthen our reporting you can also find me on twitter. I'm at Mary's desk. What NEXT IS PRETTY BY? Daniel Hewitt Mary Wilson Jason Leone and Mara Silvers. Thanks for listening. I'm Mary Harris. I'll talk to you tomorrow..
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"Oh dear it's still happening. What happened instead. Was that basically. The legislature decided to go to war against both Iverson and a bunch of Democratic officials who were saying we need guidance here and we need some sort of relaxed rules to make sure this all works and Republican said. Everything will be fine. We don't need to change anything with. They weren't thinking about was the fact that a huge number of voters a massive number of voters who had never voted through mail before are now going to be voting by mail and that is going to create a massive titanic backlog of vote by mail applications and there are literally not nearly enough humans in Wisconsin government not nearly enough election officials to process all of those ballots and make the election. Run the way it's supposed to. Yeah because I guess it's all finding good for the Wisconsin legislature to say. Listen you can just file for a mail in ballot but if you're the city clerk in Milwaukee or Madison. You're the person who's going to all of the sudden get thousands and thousands of applications at the last minute to vote by mail and I mean that's a low ball number because as of late last week there were already a million more mail in ballots. Sent out then in two thousand nine hundred ninety spring election. So we're not just talking about double or triple like we're talking about exponentially higher number of mail in ballot requests that the state just simply lacks the personnel to process in time for the April seventh election. Wisconsin also. Has this really intense voter. Id Requirement right. Yeah if you're registering to vote by mail and a lot of people are going to be. That are already did that. You have to upload a photo ID and proof of residency and send it over the Internet and once again imagine a senior citizen of a few means who relied on the library to help her use the Internet and now all the libraries are closed. And she's got a few days to figure out how to upload documentation and she's by herself. That's a pretty difficult thing for a lot of people to meets on short notice. You know. It's interesting when I spoke to that city clerk in Madison. Mary Beth wetzel bail. She talked about this voter. Id Requirement and what it was doing to her at the office and she said first of all immense. She was getting just tons of angry angry calls from people who are asking. Why do you need this? What's going on and then with some people who couldn't figure out what to do instead of sending a picture of a photo. Id or maybe. They didn't have a photo ID. They would send sell fees so she was getting these cell fees from people all over Madison. Saying please let me vote. That's so sad. I mean that's really like the tragic human face of all of these Republican voter suppression measures. You know it's all well and good to say. Oh people can just pick up a free. Id from the DMV after they get their birth certificate and all this other stuff but in practice it often boils down to confused people sending selfish to an overworked clerk saying please let me exercise my constitutional right to vote..
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"Gavels. Whoa this is kind of an extraordinary move by the legislature to really thumb. Their nose at the power of the executive and the governor. The biggest elected official in the state has called them into session and said take up this issue and they basically start. The session ended without doing the ASS. So the Republicans do not grant the Governor. His wish for male inbounding system right. I said why is it that Wisconsin has so quickly erupted into a really nasty partisan battle over something as seemingly basic as making sure people can vote safely in a primary election. I mean that was going to be an everyone's bipartisan interest. To protect life right I mean. Democrats and Republicans will be casting ballots. It would seem as if safe voting public health will be an issue in which partisanship would be left to the side and that Democrats and Republicans can agree on the best way to move forward but in Wisconsin. There is no issue in which that can be left aside. What we see is a state that has become so deeply rested by Republican control. That even something like SAF- voting turns into a month fast and for this governor for the Democratic governor. Tony that's been clear since the day he was elected..
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"It's Tuesday April seventh twenty twenty. And if you live in Wisconsin at least at the time we recorded this today. It's election day despite the global pandemic. That's keeping most of us at home right. It said like trying to do the impassable. It's like living a nightmare. Keep asking myself. Am I still alive or possibly be true? Could it Mary Beth whistle bail? She's one of the people trying to carry out this election. She's the city clerk in Madison. I know that you told someone that you're working like a hundred hours a week right now. Yeah how do you even work a hundred hours a week? You become very very grumpy. Mary Beth has been pulling these hours because of what started happening as the election got closer and people are town realized there are going to have to find a way to vote. It's because we were receiving so many absent. He request that it was beyond any of our capacity to process right away by law. Were supposed to have the absence. She in the mail within forty eight hours of receiving the request. So it's like A. It's like a race like you'd get a request and you got two days to get that sucker in the mail. But a couple of Fridays ago our backlog was sixteen thousand emails to process for absentee requests. So Mary Beth had her husband help out at the office. She got her teenage daughter involved. She even trained some out of work librarians to process mail in voter requests. She still couldn't meet the demand by the time. I spoke to Mary Beth on Sunday. Her focus had shifted to getting pulled locations ready. At least the ones she can keep open. She had to shut down about a third of them like the ones in nursing homes because of Kovic nineteen. She was arranging all these work. Arounds like curbside voting an elaborate system involving poll workers and face shields sliding ballots through cracked open car windows then for voters who are entering the polling place. We're asking them to stay succeed apart. We're keeping our poll workers sixteen apart but how many poll workers are going to show up at is the question. Wisconsin's primary election didn't have to be like this. The governor tried to delay it. He proposed mailing ballots to every registered voter so they could vote from home. The legislature rejected these ideas. And that's how Mary Beth got to this point working till two in the morning pressing absentee ballot requests and trying to find plastic face shields for her poll workers. Now she's just hoping those workers actually show up this morning today on the show. We're going to tell the story of how Election Day in Wisconsin got to be such a mess. It's a story about what happens when a pandemic collides with partisan politics. I'm Mary Harris. You're listening to next stick with US after talking to Mary Beth. I wanted to understand why she was still preparing vern election at all so I called up. Slates Marc Joseph Stern. He's been following the pushing pullover Wisconsin's primary when we spoke on Monday afternoon. Things seemed settled. Sort of the election was going forward but there was a dispute about how many people would be able to file absentee ballots. And what would happen if some of those ballots arrived after election day? So let's explain how we got here in Wisconsin. Wisconsin has a democratic governor. But it is definitely swing state with a lot of partisan battles. So how did we get to the point where Wisconsin was even like having this election in the first place because just last month? We're talking about Ohio where I the last minute they were calling the whole thing off so I don't WanNa sound conspiratorial here but I really feel like any realistic conversation about Wisconsin and how it ended up where it is today has to begin with the coke brothers and with and I know I know. Please don't hate me. But what you have to understand is that in the arts the cokes and their allies in their strategist got together and basically decided to pick a state that would serve as the laboratory for all of their ideas and that state was Wisconsin and they needed a governor who would essentially be a puppet for all of their policies. And just do whatever the hell they sat in that puppet with Scott Walker and they needed a legislature that had a sufficiently large Republican majority that Nothing that Walker and the cokes ever proposed would get tanked and they did that by a ruthlessly gerrymandering the state after the two thousand ten census and creating this impenetrable. Gop Wall The the Democrats have not been able to cross over so even when Tony. Eva's won the The governorship in two thousand eighteen. He's a Democrat and he's a democrat. Republicans held fast to the state legislature. Right and their their numbers here were it's like X. percentage of the population voted for Democrats but the legislature. When you look at it looks a little different than not. Yeah so in. Twenty Ten Republicans. Gerrymander the hell out of the state legislature right and they basically pack the blue cities like Madison and Milwaukee. The pact voters into a few districts there and then they spread the rest around the state. So they've got this huge Gerrymander and in two thousand twelve it pays off because in two thousand twelve. Republicans only win forty eight point six percent of the statewide vote in Wisconsin so they don't even win a majority but then that vote translates into sixty out of ninety nine seats and the Wisconsin state assembly. So you've got Republicans winning less than a majority of the vote and capturing a near Super Majority of the state assembly so let's fast forward to now you've got this Democratic Governor Tony Devers. He wants to protect his citizens but at the same time knows that he has to deal with this Republican legislature. Right right and this is where the coke stuff kind of comes back in again not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but after Scott Walker lost his reelection race in two thousand eighteen to Tony Everts the legislature which remained Republican decided that it didn't really think that a democratic governor had a legitimate right to rule and began stripping powers from governor before he took office. I think the way that you put this on the show earlier was Wisconsin is governed by the dead hand of Scott Walker. Yes yes that is exactly correct. Because Republicans basically gave themselves all of the important powers of the governor ship or at least many of the important powers imposing Scott Walker's policies even though Scott Walker himself has no more power and just tweet. Sad pictures of his ham. Sandwich is so in March. Tony vers knows that. He has an election coming up on April seventh. He also knows that. The Corona virus is becoming a major problem and states. All around the country are basically shutting down. So what does he do so either as does not have power to postpone the election that is not a power he has retained and so the Republican legislature is the one holding the cards here and everts decides to try to play? Nice with the Republican legislature. He is a team player. He's a pretty pretty sweet guy and so he sort of goes hand in hand to the legislature and he says look. Why don't we make this an all male election day mostly male election where we pass them? Quick Legislation An implements quick rules. That make sure everyone can easily vote. Absentee people don't have to go to the polls and they won't risk getting the corona virus in order to cast their ballot so we asked the legislature to allow the election to really be all male and like he wanted he wanted ballot sent out to every voter with you know addressed envelopes with stamps on them. So everyone could participate but participate remotely. How did the legislature respond the legislature said in in two words? Hell No. We don't like vote by mail elections. What was their justification? So in the past some Wisconsin officials have been pretty overt about the fact that expanded access to the ballot is bad for Republicans right. You have these occasional stray quips by Republican legislators and operatives in Wisconsin where they say basically we need to suppress votes to make sure we can win but what you have them saying in court. Filings is essentially. This is no big deal. This is a pandemic. But we already had absentee voting. We already had mail in voting mail in balloting. And we don't need to change anything like we can just keep all the rules. The exact same and people can just switch to mail in voting. They want and everything will be totally fine and you could switch to mail in voting pretty late in the process right. Like if I'm Wisconsin voter I could ask for a mail in ballot like last week. I think. Yeah that's right. And if the state had the infrastructure and personnel to prepare for for that possibility then in theory all of this could have been worked out a few weeks ago and I think the state could've run a decently smooth. All male are mostly male election. What happened.
"wisconsin" Discussed on The Daily
"Against the advice of public health officials and the wishes of its own. Governor. Wisconsin will hold its Democratic primary today in the middle of a pandemic a stead hunting. On how that happened. It's Tuesday April. Seventh March was always going to be one of the most consequential months of the presidential election by the time we get to the middle of March though. So here's what we're watching breaking news. Louisiana officially could become the first state postpone its Democratic primary election over the corona virus pandemic becomes clear that the corona virus global health pandemic has really ended the race completely after Super Tuesday states that are scheduled to vote start postponing sometimes our canceling their scheduled primaries Georgia becoming the second state to delay its Presidential Primary Kentucky announced that they delay their contest. Well Hios governor pushed back its primary just hours before polls were set to open other states connecticut. Indiana and Maryland. These are all states that said that the public health crisis was too great for them to hold in person elections in March. But there's one state that refuses to budge. Even as public health officials are urging them and states across the country. Have taken that drastic step. It's Wisconsin and what explains that? What's happening in Wisconsin? But when most people look at these presidential primaries particularly in a state like Wisconsin. They think that this is just about the two candidates at the top Joe Biden Brexit's Bernie Sanders and who gets the delegates out of that? But the reason why Wisconsin was holding out and keeping its primary schedule was really to do with more state and local concerns. Initially the Democratic governor. Tony Issues and state. Republican leaders were on the same page. They both agreed that the April seventh election should go forward and they said so for a couple of reasons not only had the virus not really ravaged the state and the same way that we have seen in other parts of the country at the initial time in March when they were making this decision but they agreed on the importance of the state and local races that would be decided down valid on the same day of the presidential primary. I just WanNa make sure people understand. The complexity of our spring. General election is not a primary election only a primary elections of the presidential candidates racist like Shariff's of in mayors and court judges. There's a particularly important Supreme Court race that's happening in the state and both sides agreed that filling these roles was important for the continuance of state government. How long do we hope we've offices Knoxville? Because we're into July August and we haven't held general election and that's why they proceeded with the primary. I WANNA give credit to Governor Iverson. I agree with his decision to say that we are going to hold this election. So despite the risks of holding an in-person primary in the middle of a pandemic despite the fact that many states are postponing these primaries the Republican and Democratic officials in Wisconsin say that this is necessary for the functioning of their government. Right and that's the position they held for about a week and what happens after a week. Well most clearly the factors around the decision change. We need an all hands on deck approach to stop the spread of Cova. Nineteen in Wisconsin. The pandemic becomes more acutely fell in the midwest particularly in Wisconsin. Here is the bottom line. Folks need to start taking a seriously so today. I'm asking for your help. And the governor issues a stay at home order like many other governors did across the country and closes off non essential businesses. It's not something I wanted to do. And it's not something I take. Lightly and people across the state are starting to say well. If we can't leave our houses how are we supposed to vote bright? And what's the answer? The Governor and State Republicans. Keep holding this line. That voting was something that was so essential that the primary was something that was so important that they would try to find some work arounds that included expanding access to absentee ballots and encouraging people to use that measure it included counties taking precautionary measures which include maybe drive thru voting more socially distance lines. But besides all of these creative measures there is an increasing fear particularly among poll workers that the election would be unsafe for them to staff. These are people who ninety percent of them are senior citizens hall workers one of the most vulnerable population to this deadly virus and they start dropping off informing their local jurisdictions that they don't think that they want to participate in the scheduled election a survey from the Election Commission in the state so the more than one hundred jurisdictions cannot adequately staffed or polling locations. Because they wouldn't have the right hole workers to do. So wow that becomes the first real point of pressure to say. How can this election go forward? So what do officials in response to this severe shortage of porkers while they go back to trying to find create a workaround so the first thing that some of the local jurisdictions do is close and limit their polling locations. Some of the more drastic examples include Milwaukee the biggest city in the state going from one hundred eighty polling locations typically down to just five or seven and yet everyone still seems committed to holding this election. They were until the virus intensifies and the state in cases increase as the deaths increase. That's when you see a real shift from the governor. Either folks governor here and it's a big one so today I'm asking the legislature to come together to take bipartisan action to ensure that every registered voter receives an absentee ballot devote in the upcoming election keeper poses a dramatic expansion in the states absentee ballot voting system essentially making it a universal vote by mail system. So I'm hoping that the legislature will act swiftly. Send absentee ballots to every single registered. Voter living in Wisconsin. The state would mail three point. Three million eligible voters. Aboul it whether they requested it or not and that represents a real change in how the electoral process would work throughout the state where this is not a republican issue or a democratic issue. This is an issue of democracy. I don't care who gets the credit. I just want to make sure that everyone has a chance to cast their ballot. This April thanks for watching. And let's get it done folks and that's when we really see the partisan pushback start what began as a democratic governor and a republican state legislature. That were basically on. The same page has now devolved and to what is by all accounts a partisan bloodbath from the moment that verse proposes that every person would be mailed a ballot whether they BASF FORD or not Republicans Go Haywire. Right now Senate. Majority leader. Scott Fitzgerald is calling this idea of fantasy. Yeah this is probably my biggest disappointment so far working with the administration since this all happened. They say that this is not only logistically impractical It was completely disingenuous for their Belvin. Her to Tapeh of video and posted as if this was reality to float the idea that they were going to find enough outer envelopes balanced themselves. Inner envelopes with First Class Postage and mail it out to three point. Three million people in Wisconsin is completely made up but also kind of morally and democratically raw. You know that happens sometimes. I guess if if you're feeling pressure from one of your own special interests or from the party themselves but and Everts knows that state law does not allow him to kind of unilaterally. Make huge changes and how Wisconsin runs the election folks. I can't move this election or change the roles on my own. My hands are tied. He needs to help of the legislature. It's a one of the measures he tries to do is call a special session of the legislature and encourage them to delay the election and implement changes. That would allow every person to be able to vote without going in person. Eric legislators to take this call for special session seriously. It doesn't go. The legislature gavels in a session. This past Saturday April twenty twenty special session of the Senate will come to order. Objection People Twenty Twenty Special Session with standard German 'til Monday April six and less than a minute later April twenty.
"wisconsin" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics
"Wisconsin is likely to be the only state with in person voting. This April Democratic governor of Wisconsin. Tony either is called a special session of the state legislature this weekend to try to postpone the state's election on Tuesday but the Republican controlled legislature declined. The governor had also previously called for sending a mail ballot to every registered voter in Wisconsin which the legislature also declined. So as of this taping. The election will happen tomorrow. Including IN PERSON VOTING. There are plenty of things that could potentially go poorly. There's been a large request for mail ballots likely more than the state has ever processed and in Milwaukee for example which normally has one hundred eighty polling places. Only five will be open so Mike. Why didn't Wisconsin Postpone? It's election like all the other states voting. In April. I think at this point. Sixteen states have postponed primaries fifteen states. One territory including Puerto Rico. Why isn't Wisconsin postponing its election to beyond? I'm not really sure the answer to that question. Do we actually know the answer to that question? They should've right I think that's dysfunction but Li- partisanship okay so Wisconsin Gaylon. You should actually as a person with lots of Wisconsin. She's head yeah you should. You should answer this. But like Wisconsin has always been at the forefront of recently has been at the forefront of American political dysfunction. Let's say and they are opposing that venerable tradition here. You know the governor. Tony Evers. I think was really late in calling for the election to be cancelled. The Republican late legislature for partisan reasons does not want to allow methods of voting. Basically make it easier to vote not in person because those methods double as ways that expand the electorate and helped Democrats in the long term. But I'm not sure there's a good reason why they're doing it is there. I think that in some ways your crack the state legislature to seize voting by mail having a ballot sent to like everybody in Milwaukee Who might have usually voted in person late this lawsuit that was decided on Friday? That's now headed potentially into the US Supreme Court. One of the plaintiffs was sold to the polls. Which is in Milwaukee drives a lot of people from black churches to the polls to vote in person where male voting may not be as common as it is among older whiter wisconsinite who live more rural areas who might have been planning on voting by mail all along so certainly there is a partisan dynamic here. I think maybe Tony I was waiting to allow the court to rule as to whether or not to postpone this. He's claimed this entire time that he doesn't have the authority to postpone the election on his own. He has to rely on the state legislature other democratic strategists in the state have said that he should go ahead and use his emergency powers. Although does a Democrat won the example that an executive can use emergency powers to postpone on election unilaterally. When I don't know maybe there's some fear that trump could ultimately try to do that in November. I don't know if that's the logic behind all of this but yeah I think there are a lot of quirky and some bad faith logic here in terms of what's happened in the setup for this election for short so you're going to end up with a really stop election as you mentioned. Gaylon particularly in more urban parts of the state. There's not enough poll workers. The number of polling places is going to be way down. They're bringing in the National Guard. There Brandon national so okay so those places are going to end up more crowded right because you're going to have probably fewer people overall but also the number of places where they're gathering is going to be way down. People are going to be confused about where to vote where their polling places. It's just like dangerous. It's dangerous and also you know okay. The Democratic presidential primary is mostly over. So maybe the stakes aren't so high there but you have the State Supreme Court race there that could have have a ultimately probably rule on whether they can purge all these voters from the list for twenty twenty. And you're going to an election where you know. Urban parts of the state are probably going to be disproportionately prevented or it's going to be made harder to vote in more urban parts of the state which are more democratic so yeah it should be interesting for the record also that State Supreme Court that is likely to rural on the Congressional and state legislative maps that the state uses for the next decade. Because Tony Iverson is still going to be in control in twenty twenty one likely still republican state legislature. They won't agree. It will go to the State Supreme Court. And they're basically going to draw the line. So like four Wisconsin. A lot is at stake here other states giving you brought up the idea that like maybe maybe Iverson. A Democratic governor doesn't want to use these big executive powers to kind of throw his weight around although if not now when you know I mean it's it's it's interesting. Ohio used the pop. The top public health officials are declared a public health emergency and so they kind of hid behind it as the wrong way to say it but you know they use that as the shield of like. This is a legitimate public health. Emergency we need to do it. I don't know I find Wisconsin's situation perplexing and also totally explainable because of American political psychology. And I if I were a voter going to the polls tomorrow and Wisconsin. It would be a nervous making situation and I kind of wonder how that will you know whenever the next sort of big set of legislative elections in Wisconsin is how that plays right this this sort of pretty screwed up tension between the governor and the state legislature neat do we know like these potentially partisan strategizing based on assumptions about voting by mail. Do we know that like a universal vote by mail would benefit Democrats. And maybe you don't know specifically about Wisconsin nationally if in November se using this as a preview for what could happen down the road if in November every registered voter were to get a ballot in America does not necessarily have partisan implications not totally clear where the directionality goes on this so they various kind of hypotheses he might offer on the one hand. Older people tend to take more advantage of voting by mail. Where it's an option right. That might help. Republicans to data point different data point well seats at habit like California Washington Oregon. You know and to some extent. Arizona Research trended more blue than other states. That's maybe maybe not caused alphabet to different data point another data point the general when you make an easy people vote. Democrats seem to like that. Republicans don't write another data point. That's curtis related. Okay well older. People are more vulnerable to curb Iris. And so if you have a case where like people are taking some measure of risk for current. Maybe they don't want to turn out to vote so it's definitely not clear if you today. Pelosi in trump reach an agreement and McConnell. There's universal vote by mail. It's not clear I obviously that would benefit in November so I think people kind of relying on their priors and the GOP is like okay. We frankly this is one of the critiques that you need to make about the Republican Party. Right they tend to make it harder. People vote and their first instinct is. I don't trust things that make it easy for people to vote even time corona virus and they can overcome that. I think ultimately it's going to be state by state by the way. This is actually one reason. A little walkie aside here one reason why? The Electoral College may be useful in a case. Like this is at six. GonNa Different decisions about whether you can vote by mail or not. That might lead to very different turnout in different types of states if you are having say a second wave in November that might lead to further skews the electoral college and the and the popular vote. But it's the reason. Why if in some state you have to venture to the polls in a mask and you know in a suit right to like biohazard suits right. I'm exaggerating here. Obviously to vote and something she just kind of drop a ballot in the mail. But you can bet which. It's going to higher turnout. And therefore that'd be a recent contained things electoral college so each state has he doesn't need number of votes go. So how many people turn out. That's a very wonky. Aside it will not please people who do not like the electoral college but like in some ways you are college actually as a helpless teach maybe to have in the event of something like this where different rules and how you vote in every state I mean I think we should also say just mentioned that there is a report out from politico that talks about the trump teams stake in not changing election laws because of the current a virus crisis the idea that they don't want to change the voting rules for it but a November election that is potentially altered by our you know stay at home pandemic status so that's something to keep in mind. I think we'll talk about this more. Broadly in other podcasts. But that's that's certainly a play in the number. The November election seems like the farthest thing away now but is is is certainly being thought about by you know lots of campaign lawyers and strategists. Yeah I mean. Trump was pretty blunt about this on Fox News. I think he told Fox and friends. He was talking about the house. Bill that was part initial proposal in this two point two trillion dollar stimulus package. Initially they wanted to include vote by mail and the money in order to do it and trump says about that quote the things they had in their crazy they had levels of voting. That if you ever agree to you'd never have a republican elected in this country again. So he is clearly making the assumption that expanding the opportunity to vote will harm Republicans. You serve amazing. He said that I mean maybe not. Just you know I yeah. I don't I actually don't think it's amazing anymore. Both in regards to trump and I think plenty of Republicans have sort of like spoken the subtext as taxed as regards to like making it harder to vote but as clear said that political pieces. Pretty amazing well. Maybe I'd actually. Maybe it's not amazing but you know the trump campaign is working with GOP officials in all these states to block these voting reforms. I was actually talking about this with Perry a couple of weeks ago but you can imagine. Democrats have been pushing these reforms for awhile. That's beclere Democrat. Probably believe in expanding vote. They also want to do it because they think it'll help them politically right but we we might have been much better prepared electorally for crisis like corona virus. Had A lot of these reforms. Been put in place and it'll be really interesting to watch the efforts to stop some of these reforms in the context of Corona virus. I think it's just another example of politics doesn't stop just because of a pin a little thing like a pandemic we just might not pay attention to it as much I mean. That's I think that's the thing that's really who's paying who is truly paying close close close close close attention to all this politics stuff right like I think so. Many Americans are just focused on the life or death stuff and so eventually. We'll we'll emerge from this these blinders on kind of reading about coverage and and I do think this dynamic will become more apparent to more Americans you could see in the late summer. This kind of becoming like a a convention cry from Biden. Right that his much-scaled-down August convention which I do not look forward to attending you. Know he might say look at the Republicans taking advantage of the crowd of hours right and trumpets. There's you can just see it becoming this back and forth already right like it's not. You don't have to be creative to know what's going to happen so this stuff already you emerge but you're seeing the table being set now over. Sure I mean when Pelosi had that in the initial house bill you had Republicans describing it as a push ballot harvesting saying that if you sent a ballot every registered voter in America. You'd be sending it to people who moved to people who had died and those ballots could be filled out by whoever wanted it. You know like kind of going back to if you take this measure of that would expand the opportunity or the convenience of voting that could lead to election fraud. Maybe perhaps the irony being that the most recent case we solve that kind of election fraud was north. Carolina's ninth Congressional district and it. Was You know Republican crew? That was basically harvesting ballots in favor of of the Republican in that Congressional election. But like okay so just to come back to Wisconsin momentarily before we wrap things up. We talked about that a state Supreme Court election. What about the primary? So maybe it's not competitive. But what does the picture look? Like on the ground in Wisconsin. Because I think Sandra might have thought at some point that he could win. Wisconsin so yeah. Pollsters have not been taking as many poles of the primary. Because it's not that competitive be because there's more important things like the global pandemic going on however. There was very high quality of whole of Wisconsin conducted last week for Marquette University law school it had biting ahead sixty two to thirty four so by twenty eight points and under.
"wisconsin" Discussed on Fresh Air
"To red which dan kaufman author of the fall of wisconsin the state's long tradition of progressive politics dating back to the nineteenth century was radically transformed in recent years as exemplified by donald trump's victory in wisconsin in twenty ten republican scott walker was elected governor and then led a historic assault on public employee unions kaufman says before walker's victory conservatives worked for years to change the state there was certainly gerrymandering there was a huge flood of dark money it was frankly a week democratic opposition to his message and there was a stoking of resentment in a time of economic insecurity that is very powerful also jeff number considers the difference between british and american english and ken tucker reviews guerrillas new album in the two thousand sixteen presidential election hillary clinton was so confident of carrying wisconsin that she never made a single campaign appearance in the state but our guest journalist and wisconsin native dan kaufman talked to labor leaders at the time who were worried she could lose the state to donald trump kaufman says trump's narrow win in wisconsin marked the completion of a dramatic change in the political culture of the state which had a long tradition of progressive leadership dating back to the nineteenth century six years before trump's win the state's voters elected conservative populace scott walker governor with the help of a republican controlled legislature walker waged an unprecedented assault on public employee unions in the state and later signed a right to work bill which undermined private sector unions dan kaufman has written for the new york times magazine and the new yorker he spoke to fresh air's dave davies about his new book the fall of wisconsin the conservative conquest of progress bastion and the future of american politics we'll dan kaufman welcome to fresh air you know we often think of cities as the centers of progressive democratic politics but wisconsin was a leader going way back you remind us what did that have to do with those who settled wisconsin in the first place this is interesting in the eighteen forties waves of scandinavian immigrants started settling in wisconsin they brought with them a kind of communitarian ethos many of them they were fleeing very harsh environment in norway for example only three percent of the land is errol so they had to bond together and this forged a kind of egalitarianism communitarianism that impacted the state's politics robert follett was perhaps the most influential figure and state politics at least historically tell us about him he was a very interesting man he grew up on a farm partly in dane county which is where madison is located and he was surrounded by norwegian immigrants there was a movement at the time in the eighteen sixties called the grange eighteen sixties and eighteen seventies and they were battling being the railroad interests which were dominating wisconsin politics along with the timber interests the railroad and timber interests controlled effectively controlled wisconsin state legislature and they would gauge the farmers on the shipping their crops so there was a kind of agrarian populist movement that rose up against them the follow was influenced by this movement and there was another key influence on him this was the chief justice of wisconsin a man named edward ryan and he gave a speech in eighteen seventy three to the university of wisconsin law school lefebvre would enroll in that law school the following fall but he said the question will arise and arise in your day though perhaps not fully in mine which she'll rule wealth or man which shall lead money or intellect who shall fill public stations educated and pay tr dot.
"wisconsin" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics
"By like the rest of the caucus nino didn't think about it too much former republican senate majority leader del schultz i served in the wisconsin legislature for thirty two years i used to be considered one of the most conservative members of the wisconsin legislature you know i think most people now would consider me game moderate he retired from the legislature in two thousand fifteen and has since spoken out against gerrymandering some people go a little piggy and as the old man used to tell me on his farm pigs get fed and hogs get slaughtered and and odd some point they get so piggy they become hogson the supreme court asked to step in and i think that's kind of what's happened here senate majority leader at the time and still today scott fitzgerald declined to be interviewed when they had finished their work they call the each legislator in one by one to show them their district in sort of get a tacit approval are you okay with this i went over there and who is shown my district in was mostly relieved that they didn't change much only republican lawmakers got to see their districts in fact when they got to a point that they were having rank and file legislators look at the maps they were required to sign nondisclosure agreements that they wouldn't talk about these maps in any way now you didn't get to see the whole you just got to see your district it was a process that even republicans who had been around said they'd never seen anything like it before it was more closed than it ever been passed there was less interest in paying attention to a local governments and good government groups that are out there when republicans had finished showing the maps to lawmakers they called an extraordinary midjuly session to vote on them here's democratic assembly minority leader peter barca the brought this forward suddenly and i think it was within two or three weeks at the paya through the entire process which is virtually unheard of.