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What the Vanderpump Rules Cast Did This Summer (with Not Skinny But Not Fat)

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30:12 min | 1 year ago

What the Vanderpump Rules Cast Did This Summer (with Not Skinny But Not Fat)

"<music> hi. I'm megan. Sarah and i'm eric j man. This is the daily dish bravo's official podcast. We're here with amanda from not skinny not fat podcast. How are you good. I'm so excited you're here because i've been going through vander pump rules withdrawal same i mean. How long has it been now. How long have we been without well. How long long have you been because i'm a late bloomer. I don't know if you now i know i know i'm a late bloomer. I started. I started binging vander pump and i think think january <hes> it took me until probably may okay wait when did when when was the season finale again. Remind remind me oh god when was it <hes> may was in may so i was hurrying to catch up and i did such a like crazy binging job that i was like not following anyone until i was like all caught up. I was like insane okay. I have to know as you were binging. Were you looking up real life hunting stories or anything re-live real time. No that's the thing i took it so seriously. I'm a person that hates spoilers so that's one of the things like i managed to not know even that like arianna and tom were together gather right and my followers. It's gonna be fat or so sweet. No-one wounded for me. No one wrote me like okay. This is what's going down weirdo weirdo who like you're just now finding out that like saucy jack swear together ten years ago so it was a journey for me. I hashtag myself embassador. I was so obsessed. I love that. No one even told me girl again. You're seven years late. You can't be appear now but i just fell in love with the show was like how wasn't doesn't i there with them from the beginning living and breathing those so i recently got a friend to start watching from the beginning and he will text me from time to time with like his the big takeaways like the things that stuck out to him so i have to know lake. What were the things that you just. I love reality t._v. He and i feel like vander. Pump roles is just the embodiment of everything you can what in reality t._v. It's like young hot. People check constant drama constant without even having to like create anything. I mean what reality showed. You have like people cheating on each other every single episode. That's how i sell it to people it. It was like every single episode. Someone cheats on someone like in the first season's. It's like insane. I i wasn't able to like breathe. Sometimes i was so shocked ah at the drama that was going down. You know like when kristen and jack sucked up. I know this is like so long ago. When kristin and jack's hooked up in unstuffy was i mean it was it was a what's it was a square or not a love triangle a leg wear and then arianna in tom and everyone hooking coming up with everyone and then girls hooking up with girls and it was just like i mean what more could you on <hes> absolutely nothing. What is your sort of take gone jack taylor again going back to me not like being connected to earth when i started i remember one of the first things i put up was like do we like can the shoot okay. I went back to my highlights to prepare for this. 'cause i put highlights forever. Season nice and jackson was so hot for seasonal ziesel he he was he was hot and like put aside everything we know about him. Today i still when i talk about van about vander pump. I don't dislike anyone. It's like this weird like love that i have for the show that it's like every single person is a character and they bring different things with them and i know they're real people but it's not like guide. Judge them as harshly as i would if like i knew that you know what i mean yeah like. Jack says horrible things but it's still like axe. I will tell you and i tell people well. Here's my favorite person to interview and so my friend who's been watching the show. He's like he's a terrible person like no. It's like when he sits down and i look into his eyes yeah. What do you see. He's just like a charming guy. Who's just doing the best he can. He is doing the best you can and james kennedy who was like the village the jack's of the last couple seasons like i don't have bad feelings towards him like you know he's doing the best he can. He tries then he like implodes woods and then he tries again and then he employs again and i can say like oh. He said that he things or <hes> but just like i have this sort of like unconditional acceptance africare towards crazy well. Should we talk about what the headlines have been in this time without van puddles because you've you've just recently lost it. I've been without it for a whole summer. I know it's an you know better than i do but i'm like waiting waiting for season eight. Oh yeah common share sir and i'll be in real time which for me will be a total. I am super super excited. You're going to hate it because you're going to be like i've to wage ladies wing we. I know it's hard to watch also any other reality show because i i also love <hes> you know. Housewives and i watched started summer house and i started started southern charm now and you know about southern charm. I'm like i'm waiting. You know i'm on the second season. I'm waiting waiting for it to vander. Pump me. I love it. I'm obsessed says with characters yeah. They're all amazing <hes> but i need some like scandals and everyone's like it's coming up coming relaxed. It's coming excited excited okay so i you saw the last reunion. <hes> jack's really went in on jane. We know everyone did though true jackson's apologize to jane. I saw that thoughts. I mean i think jackson is like a master. Apologize her you know as he ever like not apologize for anything. I mean it's just like those apologies if they were like coming from anyone else i'd be like they're going to be best as friends but it's like. He doesn't only mean at you know what i mean like. I think that watching it back. I'm sure a lot of the cast members were probably like i'm assuming people people were like poor. James ambushed the hell out of him and that in the in the reunion it was like equivalent to luanne prone. You know so true that is such a great comparison. It was just like the whole in. It's a three part comes back to james comes back to james comes back to james and i wish i told you i feel for him because he's like a little kid. Who's like just trying to hold it together so i hope that he meant it but i feel like it's he also then remember when he bought underwear and then like episode later was like mocking him and like not being nice so i feel like i hope that allies but we'll see season easy <hes> so lala like apparently reached out to james after the reunion also yeah i saw that they were they also like insta- photo together yeah instead posted. I love that i love their friendship meet too. I love their friendship and i feel like he has such a giant ego will cause member. She tried to reconcile five different times for sure. So what's your take. Do you think he's just like still in love with like why can he not like like be like. What did she do to him. Yeah i think he feels bent out of shape. Maybe that she became friends with the other people once like scorned her and he was there for her. They were the underdogs yeah true and she got so acceptance she so loved by everyone. That's a good point. That could be it. I also feel like he kinda loves her. 'cause no one thousand percent 'cause i love to and she's so cool and she would like chill within the studio. Go and i love their song and abounding in love that ain't might have listened to it like the other day. I think she's good. I think she's a good performer and i. I really would want to see their friendship because they feel like they've five. They have like a different like chiller right yeah. That's a different dynamic than the friendships we see on the show so but we also also saw this again we saw i remember a few months ago. A photo of them in the studio and then stuff happened again when they so again with them. You never know but i was really happy to see photos of them. Also saw that katy tagged james and a story and i was like what is going on right the guy that you wanted fired. She tackled him. Wow i know okay. We'll while we're talking about. James like this is great for me. 'cause i can just ask someone with a fresh perspective. Was it about the pasta okay so i asked every single person in the world and i still don't believe them. I even asked who else did. I ask ask katie. She was like it's about the pasta. I asked sheena gena. She said it was about the pasta. She knows like best friend. Was there and i was like you didn't sign any contracts like is it about the pasta. She's like it's about the angel hair pasta like it really is and i was like i can't i won't i won't accept it so i won't accept it. Okay i'm barry. I can't see her. It's about the pasta like. I think i was sort of like. Maybe it's about the pasta until arianna said look. We do have a codeword for drugs but that's not it and i'm like well if you want to be a code word now. I don't believe you know so it makes sense. I don't know if we're talking about a certain drug and lines and like like a squiggly long thing. I just like it connects too much and even though people like to say reckless dumb. It's really hard for me to envision the scene there creating which is la la pasta or calcutta was really disrespectful because it's really good pasta. That's what i'm told and that's where everything kind of so. I just don't buy that. These girls are eating pasta like hello and cheese balls like okay like no. You're in filming season. This isn't the keller is a supermodel okay so their new track. If law and james are truly reconciled and this is what you're talking about the photo of the studio would be ride with with me. I'm just having it in my head is nobody like i'm feeling you but with me like i'm do with ahead with me but i like when he like wraps. I don't know like i like it. Have have you heard top man. No should i like. I legitimately like his music like. I'm sorry he is talented and like he really you know he. He messed up when he rapped about. I didn't like when he did that. When he rapped about when jack ma so <hes> when he did that i was like britney is so sweet so sweet and she was like like i could just imagine being there supporting someone. She has like those big eyes and she's like all while she was innocent. I don't think she can be innocent anymore with group but and she was just it's probably like in the front like sort of like dancing and then he's like dust that and that to me was like one of the most messed up thing ever aside from calling katie <hes> <hes> fat which as a woman i was like you can call me ugly gonna stupid if you call me fat and on t._v. and on t._v. It's just so he did a couple of things like i said i feel bad for him. He's had a hard situation in life and coming for him. The way people did because so many of the cast members messed up you know if we go there. The everyone has been crazy done wild like they screw each other over so many times so it's like he's not the only only person that like and that's at a and on the on the flip side. I don't blame katie forgiving ultimatum like whatever they all. Did that kind of you know. Everyone got everyone fired fired. Everyone got everyone in trouble. It's like whatever okay so. I am not exactly sure what we're seeing. This season of vanapope rolls the upcoming upcoming one but i'm hoping it includes this joint bachelor bachelorette party that jackson brittany and all of them went on in miami. Wow yeah do you think it's going to be cray cray. Oh it has to be it has to be greasy. Was your favorite group trip. That's a good question i'm trying to. They're all going through my head right right now. They're all like the same also right. It's like either mexico right wherever they it's not like they went to costa rica all either like mexico. They're driving the biggest. We'll now miami yeah. It's either stasi's birthday or someone's getting married. We where were they. I think they were in mexico where they went to that club and literally everyone everyone made out. Oh yes christner yana made out my fin. Arianna was so human got home. She was so drunk and she got back in. She was like lying on the floor and tom who love so much like he's just the cutest thing like i got a call the poop wickedness police oh sandy do he loved them to do and i'm really happy 'cause i'm such a like loyalty so number one for me so even though i love them so much and my head i'm like i want to be best friends with them. I was like i couldn't be. I couldn't like accept this cheating going on like that. Everyone kinda like lives. Oh you cheated on her like so. I'm happy to know that that never panned out like the miami girl the story line and hopefully i really hope that tommaso has been loyal but arianna. Do you remember her. She was like he didn't do <hes>. She didn't care she liked believed him. I was like well well. She just hopped on the back of his bike. She didn't and that's how i was like. This girl is confident zan speaking of during transition. They'll do it. Please confident then arianna. Who's perfect just did a little like embellishment. We've found out her jal line jaw line which like the d- uh-huh the gobble wobble but she didn't even have anything. I'm so like anti the plastic surgery you know. Crazy goes on today that people well need to perfect. You have a little a little little also. Her threats like noninvasive but she feels more confident. She has like for some weird reason season insecurities about her the way she looks sometimes in jinan sometime so that walla may feel better about the real taoists. If you're gonna ask me what the most shocking thing for me prevented pompey was that i was gonna say which sex tapeh people like me to same not do you but i was because again going back to the loyalty like cheating cheating cheating cheating. I was just envisioning this like as poor. Tom like he also kind of painted when when arianna in la when lalla went down and arianna in the backseat. I remember like not believe like trying to picture that situation where he's picking them up. He's not wrong. She's like having to go down near girl real quick. He's like not that into it but whatever he just because you know he is such a crier picture like a single-tier rolling down as he's driving them. I love him though i love when he gets so emotional yeah like the battered wife seen l. show a favor of let's look so good just kicking the bathroom but you know that it took me well. Obviously i posted it but it took me like three watching that he's taking i had had no idea either. I thought he was like on. I thought he was like a like. Just you're just sitting there bombed and his hanging over he was taking home hum see why remiss you've and afon comeback come back. I doubt this would be on the show but the fact that lisa vander pomp arianna sandoval katie schwartz were all on family feud against chrissy teigen and john legend there so lucky. You think it won't who was lucky who's lucky in that situation. Banter crew. I mean i love them but being against chrissy teigen and having her be such a fan of the show and co go to tom tom uh-huh even though she didn't hop on the back of the what's it called his sidecar. She didn't get andy's taught sidecar but know that seemed really cool. I didn't watch it. I should watch it. I unwanted either. Watch it. I need to know your thoughts on this. Brittany had a disney princess themed bridal shower yeah. I'm not so into that. I'm a simple girl. See lake my favorite game to play with friends yeah perfect partner but in my first hypothetical ethical is always perfect partner but like a disney person no because it's a very specific kind of person. Can you put that aside to be with your perfect perfect person i mean. I don't think jack's cares but i think i don't have any friends that are like obsessed with disney. If you know what i mean you do. How are you still friends with them right. I just the whole hashtag and the whole thing. I'm not that kitschy of a person when it comes to marriage in like relationships not mean. I just feel like i mean now. We have stasi's new hashtag. What is it from dark to clark and the thing is she. When she was talking about her engagement in her marriage she does talk about in the kind of chill way. Surprisingly she's like you know. I kind of more so wanna have a baby like she sang all this stuff and i'm like yeah and i liked katie's approach to her wedding. <hes> it was chill. It was like in this like old old foresty thing they all slept in these like gross cabin something unlike but it was like pretty and charming and she didn't have a hashtag then or actually married rumors were. They weren't really married when they've been really married. Lands baz who's b._f._f. With them dubs yeah well and lisa vander palm like he's very entrenched in the rubbing memory weird that him and jackson besties like it's kind of hard for me to to like imagine in but he spat out on interview that he was in like will i hope jackson bruni aquileia got married unlike tom and katie and this went like viral and people people were they're not really married and and i was like it's not that dramatic like they had a ceremony. They're committed. They probably didn't sign the paper what was jackson britney's jack scott right which took me a minute to sometimes. I'm so blonde with these things. I'm like trying to read it again. Britney is like cart right right right right like kinda didn't ring but if if i i got married in two thousand fifteen so there were hashtags weren't a thing but i don't think i'd do it hashtag nor do i think i do disney princess thing god help but which disney princess would you be no kidding all right. So what did you think think when the wedding photos came out of jackson brittany. I thought i thought she really wanted this like she was one of those girls she said like i envisioned my wedding foreleg like you don't remember <hes> she was interviewed. I'm not going to do a southern accent anymore <hes> she she was interviewed. I guess and they asked her like who are you envisioning coming and she's like i never like she. She's one of those girls that was you know since she was a kit just wanted that day wanted. That wedding wanted that huge huge dress wanted that castle so i mean i'm happy for. She got everything she wanted. The castle is beautiful majestic. It looked amazing and i hope that that their marriage like looks like that. You know what i mean and even though i feel like the attention is always on the bride. I couldn't stop thinking. Jack's looks like season one. Jack's here <hes> jackson literally. I feel like when on a bride diet for this way. I kept on saying 'cause like i talk a lot about like how men get big head syndrome like mel gibson alec baldwin their heads kind of grow. You're not talking about egos. You're talking about physically talking about the law head syndrome. Yes yeah gets wider think about it. Look it up. You'll be shocked. Even leo dicaprio is good like his head is getting back. Jacks was getting a huge fricken head and <hes> you know all the royds all of this all of that and all of a sudden he was getting like teeny tiny in photos. I was kinda shook. It and i think that with the kind of if there wasn't so much bo- talks because i feel like we could see season one jackson maybe to shave his head again. I liked that. Look what you just said. Bow talks triggered a memory. The andy told sheena. He thinks her talks aging her. Oh my god he did say that to her. I feel bad for sheena. Sometimes i mean but i kind of agree kareem with him. Yeah i feel like the they gets to a point. Look natural. It just looks like you're trying but she is young. She is young. That's that's why i don't get the buttocks craze. I really don't think she looks great. She wants to look like twenty-five but she's like thirty three or something <hes> but she was. It's funny when i did her podcast one of the first things. She asked me he's like okay. Does it look like i got anything done like beyond us and i was like <hes> well because i guess people talk like in the comments that she got more stuff done than just like bo talks hours and i was like full. You're so honest about your botox and fillers like so. That's what you have and <hes>. She doesn't mind that but i think she doesn't like when people think she did like actual invasive plastic surgery that doesn't make sense to me but like i don't do any of it so i know me. Neither and i really think i love seeing for headlines like when i see jennifer garner postings and hurt for moves like literally like it excites me foreheads moved today. It's like too much you now and they don't need it. They don't need it but she feels better that way so home okay so even though their relationship hasn't been that documented in the show i have to assume you have feelings about law and her relationship with randall <hes> and manned rand. I feel like we'll see him this season. I hope so too and i feel like because i feel like just from instagram like he's like around own damore. You know what i mean. I feel like he's been at events. I feel like he was just where was he. Just maybe at jackson's like fortieth. Which i'm sure is filmed like yes. It's forty already by the way everyone what the hell it's gonna be an exciting time when they all start having babies but i think at the beginning with lalla like again flashbacks to meet putting her up being like you guys. What am i going to think about lala and people everyone who was unanimous. Where like you're gonna love her. You're gonna not lake or you're gonna laker again. You're gonna love her then. She's going to annoy you but then he got so. She has her moments and chazar moments. Also you know the scene the famous scene that fifty a._k. Forty put up where she tells us about how she met randy. How that went down dot sort of sparks a little bit of you know okay la la like i want to believe that she truly loves him in that relationship is pure and based on all the good stuff. I you know i know a lot of girls that it doesn't negate loving them so the fact that lawler would only date someone that could fly her in a p._j. Doesn't mean that she doesn't also wanna like them. Yeah mutually exclusive so i hope so so yeah right okay but then what do you think about the fact that she deleted all of her photos with rant on instagram. She said it was to protect him and they don't follow each other which is weird so what does that mean. They don't follow each other and put something up about it and katie malone schwartz like answered me and she was like l._l. L. they just don't follow each other. There's nothing there and i'm like that's weird though i like i think what i dug a little deeper and what i it kind of. What kind of surface is that like. They don't want that to like create drummer something or like an add anything to like but i think the only picture she kept what is the their engagement photo right. Well okay so that sends a message of its own. It's kinda weird. 'cause i what why the deal and people if you remember several reunions on the show get frustrated with lala about that like share more about your life share more about your relationship. We're all on here practically like in a giant the sex tape like you're not even showing your man yeah her man man only she can pull it off. I know it's true like the third person thing. I tried man. I tried big. Hoops tried it on not sample off unfortunately fortunately <hes> billy. Lee says she's no longer working at sir thoughts. I feel bad that i didn't connect with her because i'd love to be like wow they brought this transgender character and she was so amazing and cool and but i feel like she came on and there was that activists part there was that i the only story liked with her was that she was kind of dating jeremy medics love that yeah that was interesting. It was interesting <hes> and and i didn't really understand i'm trying to understand more why she was so upset about not being invited to that night <hes> at katie's i i sort of took it like again. I take this stuff really seriously so it's like i was having something my house like. I'd want my friends at my house yeah. They're filming with her but she was so offended that they didn't invite her to plan the girls night thing i can understand where she's coming from but i d- i don't think it was intentional on the girls. Are you know what i mean but but i think that it was just too much for her to handle like an. I think she just probably wasn't socially as like vibe ing with with everyone you know when i feel like that made her feel sort of triggered those bad things you know what i mean but i don't think i really think i talked about this is before this group like is not transphobic not homophobic at all like we saw them. You know the day that orlando shooting happen yeah how much they were crying and i'm really cared and the gay pride parades every year so i really didn't see any of that there. I think she didn't vibe with them and i think sometimes. She's tried to create drama where there wasn't rape. I'm not gonna miss her arn. Okay this is going to be my last fan or pump question. Probably the most important <hes> mary kill jack's santhal schwartz if a given this a lot of thought in my life okay. This is gonna sound weird. 'cause i think most people would kill jack's michael him. I say the same thing really because you know he's good at it. Yes that's what i say too 'cause like i said giving us a lot of thought so but i was like schwartz and i was like <hes> sure about that so conjecture okay. I sure we're to say then between schwartz and sandy handy was a hard decision as well but like i told talk to you about loyalty <hes> pity because you feel like sandoval would never stray right in short we know schwarzie strayed gets blackout and forgets that still doesn't it still counts short-sea okay and so i can marry him. <hes> i feel like sandy is just he's. I'm sure he's a lot to handle and his moments of like shaving his forehead and like taking longer to get ready than you but i also feel like he's just he loves arianna and he's a loving partner and hasn't strayed so that's mine. Is yours the same. I'm mary swartz no stop. Why any you need to know why there's something about him that i adore so much like he was to me the most adorable until bo came along <hes> and then bow like a little bit like knocked him down but my love schwartz even though he like got lost and didn't come home and you know there's some kinks to work out tonight worked through it together. Okay convince you to marry sandy. That's fine but now i want you to tell us about your podcast. Tell everyone that's listening where they can find it what you talk about. I'm so curious so the podcast this is not skinny banana fat as well same as the instagram and basically i talk about pop culture celebrity gossip and alongside bravo liberty gossip and recaps of our favorite shows maze a._a. Sold every tuesday awesome. What are your some of your favorite shows to recap. We'll vander palm pump. Yeah dr <hes> real housewives of new york. I'm did summer house now. Hopefully catch up and i'll do southern charm <hes> <hes> i am also somehow finding time to do bachelor nation because bachelor in paradise is crazy right now <hes> so yeah all that good reality a really important intelligence doing god's work yeah yeah yeah i agree and everywhere you can listen to podcast everywhere you can listen to podcasts great. Thank you so thank you for having me. I love a year and remember watching. Bravo isn't a guilty pleasure itself care guys. Let's keep the conversation sation going. We wanna talk to you all week. Long not just thursdays you can find us on twitter or instagram at bravo t._v. Don't forget to use the hashtag bravo daily dish or reach out to us personally. I'm everywhere at mexico and i'm eric j mac e. r. i k. and if you're on facebook join the daily dish facebook the grill you can post about what you're watching your favorite shows. Who's your favorite housewife. Ask a question start some drama. There's a lot of good stuff in there. 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145. Live from Largo (w/ Jessica Chaffin, Jason Mantzoukas)

Bitch Sesh: A Real Housewives Breakdown

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145. Live from Largo (w/ Jessica Chaffin, Jason Mantzoukas)

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Plus once you've completed the survey you can choose to enter for a chance to win one hundred dollars of Amazon gift card. Terms and conditions apply. Again, that's pod. Survey dot com slash bitch session, real housewives breakdown show, guys. Let's be honest. We don't ask you to do a lot. We sure down. Thanks for your help. I want you know, I don't wear a bikini on a beach. I won't now. I want you got up front. Shaved. Because I did it for you. Guys. Thank you for coming out of the way. This is Casey Wilson. Daniel snyder. Wonderful. Can you all so much going on L my Jimmy into it? All yes. Please flapper one nine hundred ninety nine. Oh, yes. Hard to get in and out of those costumes. I know they look easy. I've exhausted. The fabrics are also different yet. So shockingly brittle. Like, I'm going to go up in flames like burning men in front of you. If you pull one string you pull it apart. Truly, my Sonja Morgan designs were as good as that toaster. Can you are you? I'm fabulous. No. I'm not. This thing is slipping off of my body like my breasts are hanging lobe. It takes like two men. And it's you been in three minutes. Twelve angry men get you into that. Oh, yes. This bathing suit is the most delete. Fuck you because. Talk you and the Beverly beach you wrote in on. Because this bathing suit makes no sense. It takes me a half an hour justification out, and I'm not exaggerating like you have to step in. And at one point it was strangling me could not get air. But now, how are you? Casey. No you've been traveling the world I've gone to New York fifteen times and fifteen weeks, and I love to being on the plane without my truth. There's a lot going on in house. We want to just run through a few things before we bring out our Leicester's lustiest post show now guys just some house lays news, odds and ends. It's just a tweet. Lisa Renna has given us recently. So take a glass take. Okay. This is crude here, we go to our husbands fucked the same woman, and we fucked the same guy. What does that say about us? My mind goes to dark places only you're such a cut up. As we said, it's like there's so many men in Hollywood and odds, are you fucked all of them, especially from that particular niche, and I think we're we're starting to see the players. We're starting to see the herpes pattern between all the he doesn't mean me good with dark place next to go to a sad place because she said all that on the show, and then she's like very excited about it. But trying to act like it so crazy, and it makes me feel very sad. I like that cute monkey in there. Cute. What's next in y'all? Okay, next. We have Surrey when we okay now this next Instagram just had so many levels to it. I just wanted to like get it to the people and to show you this. Now, it's missed. Son your mortgage. She is dressed in her finery. I so thrown. Debt that I read Monday, motivation, stay positive and hashtag work hard. And then a lot of credits on the photo. And then there's two pieces of differing degrees of burnt toast. And one of them says asks him one of them says am I just want to also add how insane this is? Then g at one point was trying to get a toaster up wine off the ground, and she can't get the line, but she can barely get the toast off around. She couldn't get the line to market. But here we have this wild feels like this is a wink to her toaster and also getting that bread, meaning money and also Sonja Morgan. And also as cinem- there's not too when she was wearing the flippers, you know, in her old like monogram. It's all there much going on. And why is she wearing like a cow neck, but Paju who Blake and then I like the Victoria blink. Who's no, no doubt? Lance daughter says I like her 'cause she's crazy. But I also like that our good friends, Amy Phillips liked it. There you go. I want it. Okay. So per next what we have is on the kospi weeks ago. Roxanne gay spoke to us about a moment with Terendak. I mean, not during the sorry with to read where she was chased around a pool and how they didn't have that footage right while on the trip when they went when all went Roma's like this speaking of Beverly beach because apparently she owes money to the person invested in Beverly different. This is what they should have put on our program that we watch and spend our good time on here, we go. What are you pay back? Ryan Boone the money that you owed him you keep it. Why don't you do that you put money to come to know sore? Where you and your mud, but why don't you pay thousands of dollars that you are not my name? You are how much does it three hundred thousand that you why don't you give me the money back? I like it. It lands on that Cinderella rapunzel floating. Maybe a very poignant. Like seeing Lisa in aside. Boob like popping around that. I also have to want to say the like, bats British accent. Your. Trying to pick it up. Yes. That's so real one just f y let's bring our guests. Now, John, please. Without further ado. Are less Trieste guests. I guest is a dear friend, she's been on the pipe guts number of times. She's absolutely hilarious. She's also a genius like she's her. I like her when she breaks down the housewife, she's shows layers that I've never said, she takes us to places we didn't know we could or should go. Yeah. And she's also starring in a new show called the abbey's. Please welcome. Jessica traffic. This is Dan. You take your team? Are these actual giovani's? So all three of us could break out into a rash at any moment. Having just made skin contact with them showing parts of my body to you all that. I don't show. My husband. Look, you look fabulous. As I was telling me with love to to the theater like the audience was a bit further from. Right. Here's the setting and I feel like every body cost to my minute. Looks like I'm in my mommy's, dress up. Speaking of my mommy's dressed. Next guy is a a dream. I legend a legend and international treasure. He's absolutely hilarious. He's beloved in every circle, and he is one of the co host. I mean, he's been on the league he's been in so many things every movie, but who's eighty no co host with miss June. Diane Ray feeling Paul Scheer on the podcast. How did this get made? Please welcome Jason. Oh, lord. Dirt's guy. Now Jason is not as well-versed. But he's gotten up to speed with the with the specifics of this week. Okay. I have only this week watched any of these. I watched on Monday night in my home alone. A forty six year old man on episode of Vander pump. I got when you. Man, you've been Jack's texted you guys. I do not feel safe. I felt unsafe in my own home. Who are these months entered? You could slide on a puddle the bomb in your own home. There could be one around any waiting committee of from watching. The answer. Yes. The results are in. Jason what you're watching. It's forty plus years living like we did when we were twenty. That's what you're watching. And you shouldn't feel faith. It was it was wild. It was a wild ride. And I was unsettled by everything that I saw and I get it. I was like, Ooh, I get why this is exciting to watch. Because somebody's gonna. For sure like watching NASCAR broadly gonna see someone dies here today. And that's what it felt like it felt like oh at any point some somebody with an eroneous Xs e or why in their name that's going to enter the scene and murder someone. I thought you meant by poisoning. No, also, it's a murder mystery. I could talk talk I met I met someone like last night. I was out with friends at a bar, and they were like bump up here. Jared or you hear guests I met that guy last night, and we talked. He's your June funny team. Oh, right near this poor guy had to hear from like this like what you've done to me out in these streets. Tastes. I'm listening. Problem or Philly and so two down here in the gutter. Good to see you in the concrete tidal pool that Jackson stuff you were hanging out. That I think was my most upsetting moment where I was like this is a stagnant pool of water. Concrete barrier when they were they were hated beauty of Mexico. Yeah. Everything needed to be hose down everything. It was just a spillover. It was like a rain spillover. Just imagine produces being the yes. So we want you to get in this weird pool of liquid over here. Even have to ask what you probably get right in. Sorry. Go ahead. What kind of jumped off the screen? Left off the screen like it was exciting. It was exciting to watch. Okay. So I'm watching Vander pump rules for the first time and establish Vander pump. I understand what that is. Right. And then it's into like, I had oh, I know it's it's one of the TOMS and his life was not getting enough. Attention. And I'm like, okay, okay. Clinic it with this is to. But like, okay. Okay. Lalla hits the screaming. I'm like, I don't know. What's up anymore? Upside down in the world. I'm like, I feel like from the screen. She can see me. With the bar. I felt like here. She was like she was based. She says she sees. Mad at you. Mike day last year. And I see you, gene. Think granted I was very stone. I felt like she saw the contents of my soul and found me lacking. Okay. Rollo? Of all these new friends you've made the Vander pumps if you will pump city. Who does you most relate to is? There was any of them where you're like, I see myself in that person that Mondo. Really was like, oh it felt to me. Like what what is this like what is this world? Who are these people? We're did they like back that not your Los Angeles? If felt like I texted this to as well, I felt like what I was watching was the scenic elements before the sex in a porno. My favorite part of the. All setup through like. And now we're gonna fuck accepting stead. They all would like maker and get drunk. I was like this sex that everyone is having. No poor. Nathan. For my God. Bow cool. To his Japanese wave tattoo. Way way. But now, it's a suit NAMI. Bad. What is the name of the woman who's for China was out for forty minutes? The cage it was doing. Arianna. Call to police. Happens to be absolutely terrified of her vagina frit to be out. A wonder me on that list of people that are terrified. You know, who I who I tend to just with. Okay, here's identified with Ville, most the editors of this show. Fokkers are genius. Because. Three different instances in the cut of Arianna looking to Cameron. I'm gonna blackout. Homerun editing. Arianna. Well, they're all by the way. The amount of casual nudity is going on this show is admirable confounding. I was like all I wanted to see poops. You're telling me the boobs are on this show. Okay. They're all in the pool boobs out and Arjan is sitting there just monologue game. I don't know about what. But it is riveting. Don't know. I'm pissed off. And her to be like, well, you don't understand is that the banks control the world, man. We're out here in these streets. It felt like Arianna solve the truth. But like would wake up the next morning from her blackout not remembering any of our dirty secret. I think we all know is that she's smart, and she has a really dumb boyfriend, who's really cute in her mind. And she can't believe camp. Tom's on Sandoval as the other. The what? And she can't believe he's junior high board she's attracted to him. No. I think she's attractive women. We'll know he well, he's also attracted to men. So that's fine. I think he and Tom I've never seen and I've never seen. They were like the most homo erotic thing I've ever seen electric city between two people property. Are you saying the proper like what I see they look at each other? Like, what is everything heat snaring me? Love yourself that much help another use tempting. Question for you. What if I could give the same? At the same time. And I knew just how I like to see the woman your face. It's still hooked on my. In this social media area. You've never have to record having sex and have somebody find your videos. You could just watch your brother. Do you think? All those people are doing that. For social saying fear is fear is. Up on social course Jew and you need to record. I haven't placed in for you. So when Tom the other time gets in a fight with Katie when they have that terrible flight at the beginning of the episode Thomson. Katie this is what he says to her cry being with shitty. Fucking wife for seven years I've been to hell and back. How does one comeback? Before you answer. Please add I hate the sound of your voice. And I couldn't I couldn't aggreage to her. He is gene this episode. The other way down here. Yeah. What I what I don't understand. What was interesting to watch was exactly in this episode only? It's a very special to me that all of the women when they got together we're like being brutal towards each other brutal in general and all the guys they got together. We're so emo- they were. So like they were like, yeah. They would cover up. How Email they are about like lie by ripping farts like so much of it was. Oh throw. It's just tough. You know, man, it's really hard. And then like go like loses half, his body weight in tears. You'll like and then him being interviewed in a boat tight. I'm like buddy, not helping. Put in bowtie. Wouldn't both, you know. No wardrobe didn't give it to you. Wanna hang out so badly with with them. He's. To stay on the show. Corsey is stating the he has to be like that in some way, if he's agreed to be filmed because remember she had one boyfriend who wouldn't let them Filmer like it's a choice to be on camera is wants in just want to say not boyfriend who wouldn't let them film that wasn't me. Now, they're TJ for New York sports radio. Rangers of the what statements that was the most like, oh, this this is the biggest truth. I heard on on an episode of Trump ever is that Kristen dowdy has walked barefoot constantly in West Hollywood. That's the most unsurprising statement. Which was when Tom soon divulge, just when I think he's a total dodo bird, really shine. You grocery store feet. He said them supermarkets simply. I did. Cool for you guys. But again, I'm just alone in my house a middle aged man with this. Brothers and sisters. World. Guys house to watch neck. Now, let's take this moment to introduce should have an anecdote that is shorts and worthy. Please up to the Mike. If you've had a sighting, maybe you've run into John sessia in I had to say John session. No, I had at least Vanderbilt runnin. Oh, if you weeks ago. And book run in nineteen. I for startles. And I just want to say I'm wearing this push blouse this evening indifference to lease Andropov thing because I am team Vander pump. This. You you're on the side of the truth. Not on the side of detainment. Do you wanna know the truth? Your options like didn't make it to Vanderbilt dogs before they closed I had planned on wearing a Andhra Pocock's team. Cut to Vander dogs in the show last night. I straight up lost my mind. Is it possible? This is real is. The dessert display. That there was such a thing as bender. Oh, you'll never not theat- now in West Hollywood each like the sun, it's up. There you go buy at all if you ever just don't take third. Jump to Vander pump. I mean to real house though, I do want to show you a video of law because you've got a little bit. And this is that I just want you to see to touch down on. I think law at most feminists for no, okay? Great because all of the cut twos in the episode. I genuinely was like, oh, I'd like to watch that episode every time they'd be like, I don't know what he's talking about. I'm totally chill cut cut. Flashback every one of them again the editors heroes. On the beginning. Nobel peace prize there on the front line Peabody's. Yes. Even when you play this. Can be with brand. Oh, no. I'm sorry. I was expecting that. That's for sure. Kept my Gucci slides like took them from me. And was like I want you to remember. You want my cheese? Take them take this whole thing. Dickey's don't play me like chew some child took way tweet got him because you wanna punish them. I mean, come on in obviously with my financial situation. Like, I know I can afford my runs which he was paying but I can afford it on my own gonna afford a car on my own. The only thing that will be different is. It's not going to be like, oh, we're going to be traveling on a private jet to Emeka knows which guess what? Honey, there's a lot of dick out there for me to get. Wow. Beautiful word. Glorious Tyne and watch this. And she was like, you get yours girl. Well, that is why. Truth truth. Tonight. Yeah. Thank you for having me. I was Christmas shopping for my fiance at Barney's and just. We get you know. Gucci slides. I wish broke boy so Noguchi slides for my fiance, unfortunately, but I hear this like unmistakable, I guess it's like a boarding school accent because Doritos doesn't is not an English accent. Let's be honest. And I hear her talking. And you know, I'm just like wandering around. I was about this associate something I hear asker and she's like, so I'm shopping for my daughter. By she the you know, the thing is she's a little. Chunky? And this is where your shopping for your fiance. Yeah. This is the fourth store. There on the fourth floor because there's a homegoods in the children's section right next to explode. Exactly Jason trying to play me like Mark Kelly. This. I like a dull moment just sorta look over at dorito. And she like we catch is with each other. And she like looks at me sort of like scared and freaked out please tell an full of fees. And then she, and it's still don't let it be a podcast. She grins and she looks at this. So she is she looked back at me. And she says stepdaughter. Peaky other children. I did not know about it did not know that. Thank you. Yes, sir. From the audience. Here's something for your girlfriend and underwear that says, I made it nice. So you can give it some time. Engaged to her. Wow. When we that was a toughie. Hey, tufty here to hear tough senior hunky. How are you doing good? This is an old school boots on the ground. Kim richards. God grant. Which side of the four zero five does this story. Still in LA county going. So so this speaks a little bit to our little interstitial interviews that happen with our friends and the green screaming that seems to be happening with a lot of them. There's these little stage interviews that happened. Now, it may date back to early Kim. Richard stays a friend was part of the production crew vague. We don't know exactly what. But. But. There was an inability when filming in Kim's home to achieve in angle that made it look of a level Casey's flinching. Of a housewive. Okay. At surface that wasn't covered in dog hair. Or water bottle of some kind of blender bottle exactly in and just a dog aroma there. Homerun around. Why didn't you Kathy's house? They're not all upper summer downers. You want to handle the uppers? You guys hear this? Own iconic luxury items. Unreal values with the real real the leading reseller of fend Tecate luxury from top designers shop from designers like the time. 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That's the real real dot com. Promo code real. For twenty five percent off select items. We move onto Beverly hill real house. Now, grow Beverly Hills. Grab ya. I found this one a lot more confusing. Because I think it's more straightforward. It is straightforward. But I think they are oftentimes trading on past events. I show without that chase. So so we hits three seem to be entirely waited on history versus what I was watching on Vander pump seem to present tents like, obviously these people have history with each other, which they would cut to show they all have fucked each other. They've all got the same cold sores. I get it. But but housewives was both a. It was both. There was a lot of history. And they this is maybe a terrible thing to say I found a bunch of them to be so similar looking that. I couldn't quite tell them apart. So to read who you're talking about. Yes. And is there a woman named like teddy John cougar Mellencamp starter? I don't think that's right. I think what you mean is she's the half sister of the new busboy at Tom, Tom. Say hi to HUD, even the bar BAC, those amazing. But I think that that that does thick in the plot on H a little bit knowing that hood is working at tom-tom. But anyway, they're in thicker these Mellon camps in thicker with the Vander pumps or you're going on her way to this show. Real question fiance. John Mellencamp going to be like flipping drinks tom-tom shaking fan. Beam house dad was that when the Tom's we're throwing the what are they calling? Cocktail like. Ginger throwing. To me. And I got blessed. I can't remember what their name was. But they said that Tom and Tom have never been in there. They don't work at tone. They're not like in there. Working Sandoval is a terrific bartender and in fairness to him. That was just another was another medal. Who is what to buy? All right pastors. Tell you is that was nothing, but a show of love because Tom Schwartz couldn't possibly catch that canister was thrown down time. Tom Santa bone jacks. Had been in tandem. We would have seen his show. Sandovol knows. Coke about. That's why he was just loving Sophos. Is it because? Distri Jackson Jackson too old to be sweet drawing. The ladies. Damage could seventy. Every member of Vander pump rules was in their mid fifties. I would believe. Jackson is closing in. I don't doubt it. What did you think of Brittany? And then we're gonna move onto who's Britney cow. Who is the all star? She was not featured very heavily in the episode. So I did not get a good sense of her. She seemed to be kind of like she was the one who was angry that Blondie. Big boobs wasn't coming. Too skinny even though she had been the one to plan. This all the women were having what I remember to be high school girl fights that I was like why is this important to all of these middle aged women that they go skinny dipping right now. The older. The middle aged. Founded a compliment. Couldn't quite crack. It like if you thrown event, and someone doesn't come to your event doesn't feel good stuff. He had planned the event, and then didn't come to her own of these shows everything is about the only one who actually skinny dips everyone else's wearing to half of their clothes. Always upping the ante by taking off more close dropping the trout. I see. I see. It shocked because having a little bit of some reality shows here, and there I was shocked at how much actual nudity was present in the show in the group that they were all and even somebody says at one point one of the times, I says it's so weird custom Diam to just seen boobs. Now. Sharla statement, Tom driving in the car in the back seater, Arianna the blonde girlfriend and inexplicably are not inexplicably. Lawless going down on our Yanna. Driver. What what do you want to? Is in cheating. I thought about whether it's cheating or not. I'm more just like what precipitated that? Scary. I if I'm driving with my friends three of you, my friends if. Frankly, if I was like, great, I'll give you. All right home. Like one of you started going down on the other one. That'd be like, let's. Trick if we were trapped in a car together, and you didn't offer to put down trade. They were they had their lives were to end. We. Moving and had to get another job. It's called trapped. Now Beverly Hills. I just want to say that. I think it was not nice that the triplets were invited to visit and t- Tom Tom before the opening, but that they were too embarrassing to have at the opening triplets win. Dave. Dave our shorts. How they ripple. Shocked to me. I did not know that he's he Renault now all of the pretty jeans went to him. And then there's three Jimmy. Three sausage biscuit eating that is related to. Point one. Tom shorts between there's there's these three Bobo, brother. They let a worse than the next playing. Identical identically. Many times. Do you think they've tried to shoot a pilot with those triplets zero? You can make this war. I think that triplets have tried to shoot a pilot. But I don't think anyone else's tried to share one personality between three I mean is it the same one that dumb? What the same? Can I have to bury question before we do to make you guys walk through stuff that has already happened? But that's all they do on the show was just just so I'm totally clear. Okay. This fight is precipitated by oh lease if into pumping like selling a story to the tabloids about. One these so every person in the audience microphone. Microphone. Talking. What we are all talking. I mean. Yeah. Yes, he selling no placing. Yes. There is difference. There is she against because I missed all that obviously. Because she against that person. Or is she just being Harrison has put herself between a moving vehicle and target that person should not have done that you think the moving vehicles trying to get at the target that. And you don't think the person you're talking about the person she has the right to know Kyle guile. She's fighting the whole thing is about right? Yes. Bruins clapping. It's sort of a cut. Through your theory. Yes. I thought this when I open multiple theories, do you watch show the clippers were Bander pep, right? Okay. I'm for Vander pump. Because Vander pump is the only reason we have anything to watch. Shit. Is a content creator. Okay. That is her genius. And she's playing the game up until this season where she's gotten caught a little bit. She's playing the game. Her mistake is that she's playing the game at a very high level. And she has she chose to recruit someone into the game who is a much lower level. Teddy is too simple. What would I have there's this? But my first opinion is that she never should've gotten mixed up with teddy. She must have been blinded by John cougar Mellencamp start. Also, they both like pulses, and that is you cannot do those people stick together. Well, we we. Sophisticated. She's an unsophisticated player. Linda, Lisa Vander pump handed teddy story line at the beginning of the season teddy and to read Ted injuried hated each other. We savannah bumbled it. She said I've got one for you and teddy who is an absolutely disintegrates under any pressure whatsoever. Then disintegrated in public in the Bahamas, and then could no longer keep the game. Keep the game going when she couldn't keep the game going. The whole game was endanger. And now Lisa is fucked because she can't drop it because her brand is strong, but the lease ally. Absolutely. I'll tell you all tell you another piece, I think in this. I don't know whether to read is complicit or not. But I one hundred percent think PK PK or either PK or PK depending on who you has street is constantly being shocked by what's happening to her from every angle. All moments PK dream. It's not the last wife. The PK will have. She's nice purse. But she's at this moment, the only real paycheck. That's coming into that house. And by keeping this whole thing going PK, the reason why isn't PK upset why isn't PK taking Kenneth side. And saying what the fuck like what's going on here? My wife has been made a fool of blah, blah, blah. Because dorito is for some reason if every super-quick western drip, can everybody see can. When you guys. Spector holding dog that said during the background of all themes that was one of my questions can everybody the can. We have to do show of hands eighth thing to be sure feel it's more of a weekend. At Bernie's issue. Cheeky dead on Taxidermied animals. No question. He is name to thing for the whole episode until the very end, your friend. Can can talk. That's what I was. Like, this spectre is real get out of the the call is coming from inside the house. One of my theory, really quickly quickly. I read is now the center of this show, even though she's the most boring person on the show. And so in that moment when they're in the closet, and she's in the Massoni robe, and she says PK, can you believe the stories? It's least today or whatever that PK's like. Yeah. And he's in fact, he's like, well, the only thing you can do is confronted her to lunch. Like, he's like literally the only you can do is go of another scene with her because we're going to need another season. By the way, aren't you shooting that this afternoon like number two on the call sheets? Oh, sorry. My original theory, though, was that the fight between Kyle Vander pump is not what we think. It's about the fight is Lisa Vander pump saying also there's a moment release of bump has like tell moment in the middle of the fight where she just like she kinda short circuits for a second. And then she and then she gathers herself back, and I also think should be much calmer. If none of it was true. But I think what that fight is really about is Lisa Vander pumps saying because at this point these people are playing the show on two levels. Like, there's the show that you see. And then there's what happens on we're not filming. There's Lisa telling teddy. What to say there's the thing with the dog. We see it on all the shows now for anyone there's been on your your livers put on the stroke. I think she's saying to Kyle. I thought you were my friend. Are you really gonna come here to my kitchen and route and try to reveal me like are you really going to reveal the game that we play every single one of us knows how to plant the story. And I think there's a difference between being paid and being planted. But we all know how to get it out there. We're all doing all the time. Whether we're doing it on social media or we have the connection with radar or whoever it is. We're all always trying to get our story of the girls are doing people are doing it at every level. But most of the shoes. Come about that. No. Because the facade of the show is that they're just living their lives. And so the show in this is about that. It actually is about that. There's a whole metaph- my famous now. But it's all matter if. Yeah. But that's my question is how much can it be? That's what I was. I guess a little Ken is for two because it's like, you're actually you're actually endangering our livelihood and seven thousand restaurants, isn't that their livelihood? They make all their money from I mean, shoot good. Oh, gee, what into the kitchen and showed that head? Chef how to make pasta? We still tied around her maniacs. Finger blasting each other in Mexico, and it heart cooks to hurt me. Like here. It's we've got so many great vegan options. Fucking genius doing the inner show commercial mother. Fucking restaurants maniac. Is this changes, by the way, the best line in all of it was Lisa Renna? Whoever wrote it for at least. Vander trump. Yeah. I thought that was areas that was great because it's all up. The lease of interim is not coming back to realize was Beverly Hills that statement has been mocha. At this time at this time to say, whoever lights are on Vander pump. She looks like a million bucks and whoever's leading her on Beverly Hills looks about fifteen years older, like they're they're not crying to her on Beverly Hills in Bandra pump. It's all producer on Vanda. Well, she made she made Shing. H h is not making her look like the alpha lifestyle entrepreneur that she is because she's controlling her image on Vander pomp and Beverly Hills or trying she's had enough of it. That's all I'm saying. Ever since we need to move on at this. Want to talk about this effort? Giovanni can go backstage outdoors talk. They have a question about this pairing. To met last night. And now your friends. Oh, no. I met him through friends. I'm going to go tomorrow night because I was talking about having just watched the show and he said, oh, I'm going to that show. Everything. Have been made enter these show just hoping to make one more. We are very dear friends now. Very very, dear friend that best friends. I don't know his last name. He's like Delilah. He doesn't need one. If you color your hair, you know, how frustrating it is to spend all that time in money only to have your colors fade in a couple of weeks. But the scientists that living proof they've found a way to make hair color lasts twice as long and look and feel healthier at the same time. 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I love it so much make this witch to living today by visiting living proof dot com slash housewives and use promo code housewives to get a free sample of their award winning dry shampoo with your purchase. That's living proof dot com slash housewives. Promo code housewife's. Guys. Let's talk Atlanta. Now, something big in Atlanta happen this week off camera, and you all know what I'm talking about. Which is kinda flurry of tags. Danny Pellegrino is all about the water name. The water magnets. I would love if the Pellegrino as a company started from Danny, Danny Pellegrino, Danny and Lisa Pella. So this as you know, these these texts we're going back and forth Porsche had a baby not two days earlier, and then Niimi comes at her with a text. Now, we're going to perform the scene are two actors here will be performing attack. Yes. Some listeners have asked that we perform this live. And so let me give a little context. So Niimi and Porsche this is kind of all coming off of when Porsche simply asked to see needs closet and that did not go over well with knee after the cockroach incident with yell Kim's alsi acts daughter after that was put on Instagram cut. You now Porsche just had a baby two days before this comes out. And basically they each start publishing on Instagram their private text messages to each other. In the role of Niimi, Nathan leaks. We have Jason Mitsuko. These are not imitations. We are just letting the text do the work and in the role of my beloved Porsche, Jessica Chephren. Again, these text messages been verbatim. Yes verbatim. Ever made them you lying s big fat hungry bitch. You know, I never put my hands on you Marlowe, Cynthia nor candy can ever say that you want an excuse for going into my closet without my permission. So you can talk you'll fake shit on all you want. But remember my house is lit with cameras. Oh, and don't forget who was by your side. And saved your wack asks when you pulled Kenya off that sofa. Don't forget nobody fucked with you in San Fran or in Spain by me, if you've got something to say say the truth because if I put my hands on you, you will know it one hundred percent emoji. If I put my hands on you, you will know it. Oh, and remember you have your hair flipped over your thin, bald spot I have here. But if I don't I have enough money to buy all, the wigs and extensions. I want. I'm not reading all that bullshit. Well, I aim recorded that IMO I'm no studio to set you up kiss my ass. How dare you make that claim I would not conspire no shit like that. New text. I'm not reading all that bullshit. You know Dell with well. I ain't reported that in no studio to set you up kiss my ass. How dare you make that claim I would not conspire no shit. Like that that that one better? You lying made me type two fad. She went back. She did a direct something from drafts. You so full of shit go. Enjoy your one time three episode commercial. You enjoy to kiss emoji. I had twelve episodes and trust I won't watch not one of yours too. Busy secure in the bags. And you know, you recorded that. But that's okay. Yours this coming. No. I did not you are sick to believe that. But I don't really give damn by girl. You did. But it's okay. Oh, you come in just like it has been from the just like it has in the past. I'm a lot of things. But what I don't do is fuck over people and live for no reason, that's the makeup you wear. Just remember, I'm the HP see that you wanna be by. I'm happy and blest good night edges. Moody good night. Big piggy with the busted shape. Trying laughing emoji. Girl. I know you in them granddaddy long legs and box. Potty not coming for my body. That made my night crying, laughing crying, laughing hard of mo-, gene. Long pretty legs and been fine. You worry about them extra small baby ankles you rock in. Hopefully, they hold up that giant body. Joy dieting, exclamation point. You that something you never have been good at all sideways. Crying laughing emoji. ESPN? Bailable for all of you actors one pain work. Can I say that is what I talking about Atlanta because they're not even on camera. They are funny as. They are pulling each other down, the funniest smartest like they're just going for their mean as fuck, but I love and I love it. And I'm like these lambing Porsches body. She just had a baby. Before this at this woman is like sleep-deprived with new board and is taking time to just like trash. Could be more than nothing could be more someone that loves her job. And. Somebody commitment a working mother. We all wanna know some people. People need post-partum leave. He said after all her closet had been through her closet was a person and then her bathroom when she Mari through. She said she thought it was going to get up and walk out of browse. Very tough to call someone and a box body. Baby ankle granddaddy granddaddy long legs. We're getting to the end of our show. Let's move to New York. Many cities to cover our final city. You know? Now this week. We have a new episode tonight's. We're not gonna be watching. But I did Jason. We just wanted to talk about some of the players and just show you a scene really what you should see in New York. And we should just set this up by saying some of the ladies have gone to a party, but one of the other ladies Dorando was left at home. She wasn't allowed. She was uninvited to the party clam bake to Klanbake. So some lady. You can't have a clam bake one of these does handle too. There is a clam make one of the women gets uninvited because one of the women at the clam bake has she never apologized to her. She shouted during her concert Giovanni. And the sort of common fight all Jason is from a seaside community where they there is such a thing as a clam bake. So you should know that no clams were bake during there's no hole in the sand. There's no nothing. It's a platter. Clam. Okay. It's. And quite a few lobsters called, clams. Eat clams. Pinky lost over clay. Okay. That's the setup clip is just them sophisticated ladies at a clam. Yes. You do. To take. Is that for for all of us? Okay. So I'll get the second plate. Now. What does that get? And I'll get steak stick we doing steak, you we'd meet I do we're taking our goes. Rude to me. I don't know. I only feel comfortable taking like a doggy bag home when actually bringing it for my dog. This feels rude to me. I don't feel like we should be taking food away from this party. When we've only been here for about thirty minutes. Thank you so much leave. We're going gonna go back to joined Ramona till lobsters. She may. I don't know you guys aren't eating. She counted guys in for dinner. Yeah. I had all his standard food. I can to rent is by herself right now. So we well, she needs to be think whatever you guys do what you want. I would say more home located. They get no food. No food. I can't believe how snarky is being about us taking the food. I'm not leaving the lobster. I am. To she is. I am guys three super super quick fast. Okay. So it's a matter of public record, whether you voted in an election or not not who you voted for. But if you voted there's an app around the mid terms that gained a lot of popularity that sinked up with your contacts. And we'll tell you if your friends did or did not vote, you could encourage them to vote in the midterms Haina like the thing that said that Kristen's husband was on that website trolling for women. Actually. She's one of the girls next story. But there's a feature where you can just search for someone's name and Steve carrell did not vote in the twenty six. Is. People are Sook. Ramona voted Carol did not do you Adam voted, I don't you? Matt sense carols last summer. What in your contacts the app, you didn't tell us the. Though with me Earl didn't vote after we have spending all night on the seventeenth hundred story lines about her campaigning for Hillary and her running the marriage and her running for Kennedy, jR is turning over in his right now, though is Lee rod. The. Peoper real. I got so many tweets being like, why didn't you talk about Lee? I'm like we reported that Lee read well had died at your ago. And now she has finally. Prediction came true. Cleared of any suspicion on that. No because I was in the same area. Hi there. Hi, I went to this is very quick. I went to the same boarding school. As Sonia daughter. Ooh. Great. Can you can react to forty? Buddy in this room came. Everybody like. Joke on his way. Cool with a daughter. Pink through with a black lab or the water is rising. I'm going to confront but every year if you go to boarding school. You get the alumni donor report. He was never like on these shows. Now, I feel like that story is also part of our were I'd be like that story should intersect with this. Yes, also, we've all of those people had just given their money like regular rich people to the exact directly at school L becoming United trial student body could have benefited from that money like regular rich people by their. Frog word for this term. Joe I go through the donor report every year Sonia, and there's the mortgage but going gas so ever since I discovered that Roger Ailes donated one hundred thousand dollars one year, I got real pissed so I go through the donor report every year looking to see questionable donation. Ooh, I loved it. So it's I think it's fun. Logic to be honest with you, the Roger at least he gave money to the school. At least. So Roger Ailes donated one hundred thousands, I expected to see a Morgan donate any similar amount given that they are the Morgan's of the Morgans. The husband Morgan was not on the list. And I've always had questions. I think we all have because of the towels hanging up in the new apartment Donas finances. Dare you says curtains this what you mean? Yes, Sony stone yet caulking her own. Kate the lane the perpet- isn't NYU dorm. Is it not? Sonja to credit did donate in eighteen ninety group. And that means that she donated between two thousand and four thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars. By the end of show. Any final words. Oh, we know. It's not that good high was wandering to Barney's much. Like, yes, it also took place Barney's, and I was walking past was walking past the valet. And I saw Lisa Vander pump. And I I mean, I don't get excited about anybody. And then I was like oh my God. And not because I am that big of Lisa Vandross fan. But somehow these women have started to go under the debt. I'm just I'm just in this situation defending her to be honest. It's not like, I think, and it's very unusual position for me to take to be on the side of sanitary be on the side of the not truth. But they're all lying. So that's the part where I'm like not on Kyle's hat. Has never heard Coco Chanel. Take one thing or take five things off in her case. Abomination to I don't think she needs to recreate those cocktail rings. Oh, no. Oh, no. They were like they were like napkin holders, I think they might have been napkin holders. Anyway, I saw her at the valet. And when you meet a famous person than you are just totally gobsmacked by them, you sometimes just try to come up with something to say because you're like say something, I don't know what. And I also just wanted. I just wanted to see what I could get out of her, basically. And I was like, oh, we have to tell you. I just think you're fantastic. And she was like she was holding puffy puffy Jiechi is that right? He's he he did here holding completely. Sean combs. Sean combs. It's dressed up in like little blue suit. Ken was not with her. I can only these with. Some your. He's always in or he was there. And I couldn't see him also -bility I can only imagine he was getting a colonoscopy or something. And. Like, he gets one once a week, doesn't it? And I said, I just wanna say Lisa, I feel like you are the unofficial mayor of this city. Shame. I say this guy says. So much for this city. You've done so much for women. You've done so much for this city. Started laughing. Kind of. But I was like it was his though somebody dared me to talk to her. I only dared by. Ooh. Like, oh, I got to come up with something. Good. No. I'm looking at my notes. I literally walked away hard laughing. I was deeply ashamed. I think you should be. Little proud also. Touched her. Yeah. She's very small. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. I do want to go through just my notes quick touch on things that I noted because what's up? So I love to win. What is the snow angel girl's name again? Goes she's also says I'm gonna get black. I'm gonna black. She also goes I make ham sandwich right now. Drunk. She was which I was like this girl the genius. Like this girl might be genius the girl that do throw so ITO. Okay. There was a thing in Vander pump that I was captivated by which Lola goes, I mean. I had some trouble getting back to the hotel or whatever and she had a panic attack. Yeah. They cut to of everybody being LA are you? Okay. And she's like. Like. Heavy Annapolis owed. But they cut to Lolo like moving it on the way home. Everybody's are you okay? And then it's like forty minutes later and all those like, let's get drove. I have had panic attacks. That's not how this works. These. She said she's three she felt better. She was like, I got home and there was tequila here. So that makes everything better. And was like, oh, boy, she boot everything was his boot and rally. Okay. Fifty year old people singing rally. Dalli? Okay. Stan housewife's a could not believe that. There was somebody named John blizzard. Being. Do that. You can't do that. This show is already stressing in credulity, you can't eat produce a gentleman named Sean third. You're. The guy on game of thrones. Jon snow. We has come. You. Gotta get outta here. John. Come. I don't know what I'm doing. Homeadvisor out here couldn't handle that couldn't handle those. Journey tonight. I just wanted to say I'm disappointed in how boring I think Erica is this season. And then we've all been wrong about Erica. She might have been a one hit wonder, she has not dated her look. And I think it's crazy that her tourists called pretty mess again. And she doesn't have a new name for this new tour. What did you our Jake tapper and thank you so much? This was amazing. Always a pleasure. Thank you all for coming. Thank you too. Thank you. Thank thank you. Julie does. And thank you. And thank you. But I wanna like talk about the problems. I want to talk about an issue, but I can say also you look gorgeous. Gorgeous. I'm and I'm Charles, and this is the problem with Charles. 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Dutch Manhattan - The One-Legged Soldier  | 5

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Dutch Manhattan - The One-Legged Soldier | 5

"And Imagine it's March sixteen forty four. You're a military officer in the higher. The Dutch west India company hiking along the beach on the Caribbean island of Saint Martin. The punishing heat and humidity of the tropics are weighing on you and your fellow soldiers making every step heavier than the last still you catch up to your commander under served the Fort should be just around this bend all right. Now we know the Spaniards have largely abandoned it but beyond guard just in case and within a few steps steps. The Fort you're supposed to attack comes into view. Suddenly Gray thundering blasts signals. The start of a barrage from affords gun peer streaks some of the men around your hit Sir Rally. The men into formation clearly given bad information into formation formation is salt gets worse worse. Cannonballs rained down hitting the sand with terrible reverberating thud bullets Zing pasture ear. You are all completely exposed. You shout orders the men under you to pull back preparing for the expected signal for a formal treat still the musket balls. Come raining down. We rush back to your commander Sir do do we pull back you commander turns to your shocked by the wild fierce look in his eyes on my signal charge. Ford. You're the wilder and you feel. You have the right to say something. You're a veteran soldier but this is his first command in fact until now he had a desk job he was a rising star in the West Zany accompany climbing the corporate ladder and he feels compelled to show his bravery but experienced dictates that a tactical retreat as an order but sir enemy have the Ford entirely secure. We're exposed on the beach. We need to regroup your commander. Practically lunges at you dammit man the Spanish of lorded over the Dutch provinces for more than one hundred years and now they're empires vulnerable. We have them. If we get this island we go for the next and soon will have control of the entire Caribbean. Our orders are to take Saint Martin and we will take it prepare them into charge and that he grabs the Dutch flag in Russia's forward. He's ahead of everyone else out to plant the flag in the sand then a stone cannibal hit some squarely in the leg shattering it instantly flesh and bone fly into the air he falls to the sand and turns to you you see the same fierce fire in his eyes and just before he passes out despite the continued on on slide he shouts of violent order onward American history tellers. This is sponsored by the podcast original podcast mythical monsters dragons sea serpents giants demons. These are the monsters that must be slain by any great hero Hero and myth but these monsters aren't merely made up advisories. They are a real reflection of the darkest fears man once had every Monday. The new mythical monsters podcast from the podcast network tells the stories of these beasts and asks what they represent to mankind. You'll learn the origin of Vampires fanged creatures who roam the earth at night feeding off the blood out of humans. You'll hear about cramps a half goat half demon who shows up during Christmas season to punish naughty children and you'll explore the monster behind every child's worst nightmare nightmare the bogeyman a creature often used to scare children into obedience mythical monsters but real nightmares follow mythical monsters for free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts or visit podcast dot com slash mythical monsters to listen now from wondering I'm Lindsey Graham and this is American history tellers our history your store in the beach attack on Saint Martin was just one of hundreds of military engagements in the Dutch war of independence against Spain for the young brave west India company officer it would change everything. Peter stuyvesant was desperate to prove himself a leader to show his fearlessness fearlessness and sense of duty by losing a leg in the tropics he risked infection and death but he clung to life in as his wound healed and his loyalty and fierceness Persson's remained on checked his superiors eventually tapped him for another command one that would bring him north to the new settlement on the shores of Manhattan. We're we're in the fifth episode of our series about the founding of the Dutch colony on the island of Manhattan. The series is written by Russell Shorto and based on his bestselling book the island at the center of the world and gives an answer to the question. HOW DID NEW YORK BECOME NEW YORK. This is episode five the one legged soldier when Henry Hudson set out on his sixteen o nine voyage in search of a short route to Asia he had never heard of an island call Manhattan Hudson. An Englishman traveling for the Dutch was not interested in founding a colony in North America. He believed there was a straight running through the North American continent which connected the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific he sailed up the east coast until he came to the future Hudson River since it was a tidal estuary and the salty he believed believed he had found the straight but instead of reaching Asia all he did was chart much of the East Coast before returning to Europe and failure but his mission wasn't a total loss America was a largely unknown continent Europeans while most still kept their focus on Asia also known as the East indies where the Dutch had amassed a fortune Hudson's journey gave some people in the Dutch republic and idea what if they looked at American not as an obstacle between them and Asia but as a worthwhile endeavor in itself by the sixteen forty s the Dutch were in the midst of what would be an eighty year war of independence against the Spanish Empire Spain had made much of its wealth from colonizing South America on the Caribbean but now Spain was weakening and the Dutch were growing stronger by the day much of their strength was due to the wealth generated by their east India Company and the Dutch Chad similar hopes when founding the west India company with a mission to both fight the Spanish and the Americas and exploit those regions. It's North America colony called New Netherland had its capital of new Amsterdam at the southern tip of Manhattan Island. It was sandwiched between the English colonies of Virginia to the South and New England to the North but the colony he was still prospering the Dutch colony developed very differently from English ones. Thanks largely to two notions. Dutch pioneered religious tolerance helped spawn a mix society in the home country which carried over to the colony by the early sixteenth forties eighteen different languages flourished in the few rough streets that made up new Amsterdam the Dutch at the time also created the first features of what would be called capitalism. The corporation shares of stock a stock market and unprecedented approach to free trade trade new Amsterdam was becoming a vigorous center of trade then in sixteen forty. Three life came to a crashing halt. The director of the Colony Willem Kieft launched military attacks on nearby Indian villages creating chaos with the native population and turning the people of new Amsterdam against him with the the population in an uproar the leaders of the west India company determined to find a new leader of the colony and they did. Peter stuyvesant attracted their attention with his bravery. The Battle of the island of Saint Martin but there were concerns as he had lost his leg in the battle when he came stumping into the headquarters of the west India Company in Amsterdam though sporting sporting a wooden leg and without any apparent loss of the indomitable energy he had exhibited they felt they had their man when stuyvesant was rowed ashore new Amsterdam a new era again. He was all business. Previously Kieft had conducted official business only one day a week on on Thursdays. stuyvesant worked six days a week. He cracked down on Wallace in town. innkeepers were barred from selling alcohol on Sundays. If you pull knife on someone stuyvesant decreed you'll be sentenced to six months in jail on bread and water. He also turned his attention to his neighbors to the north. The English civil war resulted Gordon waves of religious refugees streaming across the Atlantic from England to the colonies of New England as the population there swelled many I'd the wide open spaces of the Dutch touch colony to their south. The Puritan leaders knew the Dutch didn't have the manpower to fully defend their territory so English settlers began streaming from Connecticut across long nyland sound onto long island itself establishing settlements in open defiance of Dutch land claims stuyvesant began a series of exchanges with the governors of the the New England colonies about the issues and he discovered that despite the fact that the English and the Dutch nations were bitter rivals. He rather liked them. Tolerance may have been an official policy receive his country but he himself was the son of a stern cavernous minister. He didn't care for diversity. The New England colonies were pure. He told their governors there's whereas he complained his was comprised of what he called the scrapings of all nations but while he was developing cordial relations with the English leaders stuyvesant listen quickly locked horns with his own people it had been almost four years since kieft his predecessor had declared war on local. Indian tribes which had brought ruin and destruction to the the settlement stuyvesant had carried with him to Manhattan the letter that the colonists had sent to Europe requesting keeps recall in that time homes had been rebuilt and life and trade were returning to normal stuyvesant didn't let the matter rest he fell to do so would send the wrong signal so he told the townspeople he wanted to hold a formal formal review of Keith's war the men behind the appeal to the west India company to remove Kieft Cornelius Malign Yokum counter and Audrey Vander underdog treated this news with Delight Vander DONC had studied law at Leiden University in the Dutch Republic he had done his studies at a time of awakening when the principles of along were changing and the concept of human rights was coming into being the situation in new Amsterdam in which people felt their lives and livelihoods were being jeopardized by an unjust ruler. It must have seemed like a real world case study a chance to apply natural law the idea that there is a fixed moral basis that determines human rights so the Justice Iverson believed. He had to make a point in investigating the issue so to advance DONKIN HIS Co.. Leaders of the resistance but they're point was just the opposite to worldviews reviews to views about the future of the colony. Were about to clash imagine. You're a west India company any soldier on Manhattan three years ago you took part in the attacks on Indian villages ordered by Willem Kieft when he was director of the colony. You still have nightmares about it so now you're in the Fort New Amsterdam. Where Peter stuyvesant says called a hearing to look into the matter. You're on the witness stand in audrain vander. Don The lawyer representing the people of the colony is questioning you sir do you recall the late director. Willem kieft sending soldiers to kill Indians on the night of February twenty fourth sixteen forty forty three. Yes were men. Women and children murdered in their sleep. During these attacks you squeeze your shot at the memory of that awful night yes yes did we not live in peace with these. Indians before this cruel deed yes where the Indians embittered by this act. Yes did it start sort of war between us and them. Yes angrily rising to his feet. Peter stuyvesant the new director of the colony is clearly fed up by this this line of questioning and he erupts Vander Doc. This is an outrage. I ordered this hearing not to have the company's decisions questioned but to punish the inexcusably treasonous behavior behavior. The colonists stuyvesant then turns to you. Tell me was it ever heard in any place that subject should be allowed to question and examine the conduct of their superiors. You don't want to say anything. This is not a matter for you to speak to but everyone is staring. No I suppose not stuyvesant goes on would such behavior not lead to even worse behavior. You don't like to be in this position but he's asked you direct question. I guess so if such what's behavior were tolerate would not lead the subjects to assume even greater authority even to take power if the administration did not suit their whims stuyvesant. It's no longer addressing you. He's furious and talking to everyone assembled in the room. He turns to face vans on what you decide to answer anyway. I don't think it would lead to that. Sir stuyvesant furiously turns back to you. I mean it might but sir. I believe that Dutch system allows for for people to register complaints does it not there's a pause then a roar of approval from the crowd of townspeople. You glance back back at stuyvesant. Now looks even angrier. Stuyvesant new yokum counter and Cornell's Milan were leaders of this upstart opposition group but as he asserted his authority he had to consider that Vandana was likely a leader as well vander underdog and stuyvesant were studying contracts while Vander Don can trained in the law in humanism and in the rights of individuals stuyvesant was accompany man an orthodox walks calvinist a soldier who respected authority without question over the next few years as the whole mix community looked on Dutch English Germans German's Scandinavians and Africans both slave and free. A battle was building of the fate of the colony. It was shaping up to be a struggle about legal and moral issues chiefs but for most in new Amsterdam it was something much more tangible. The battle over their very lives and futures American history tellers is sponsored by quip. What actually makes a better toothbrush industrial strength power claims claims of miraculous trendy ingredients fancy features. 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This is a simple way to support our show and start brushing better but you have to get Q. U. I. P. Dot Com slash Taylor's to get your first refill pack free. Go right now to get quick dot com. That's get Q. U. I. P. dot com slash tellers. Willem Kieft may have been dismissed as director of the colony but he remained on Manhattan in fact stuyvesant made him member of his Governing Council and he found a way to make use of his predecessor whom he almost certainly despised now that stuyvesant saw how dangerous the rebellion against the company's when he's authority was he got kief to write a formal complaint against the townspeople who'd asked for his dismissal. He wanted them to be prosecuted. KIEF prepared to take complaint to Europe on the next available. Ship is stuyvesant plan worked the company's rule would prevail the leaders of the rebellion would be thrown in prison and everyone no one else in the colony would have learned a lesson about respecting authority. It was a gamble aimed directly at the leaders of the opposition but far from backing down in the face Jason this challenge vendor dunk only became more emboldened. Imagine you are a farm woman mm-hmm and merchant living in new Amsterdam. There's a knock at your door and when you open it you see Vander Dong looking furtive. Excuse me would you mind answering a few questions Mr Van. Why are you whispering. stuyvesant is going to Keith to Europe to have US imprisoned for questioning the company's decisions. We have a right the Dutch citizens as as human beings to make sure our government is acting in our interests. You give me your views of the company. You're welcome Andrew Donkin for him a beer asking him to sit. Thank you now. You've been in new Netherland from the very beginning winning. Has the company treated fairly. I can't say I had reason for complaint. In the early years. We were up river at first farming. Life was hard but he was good. Then we got shifted new Amsterdam and became townfolk things got lively and more prosperous until kieft attack the Indians. I I still don't understand why he did did that. We came here to trade with them. We need them and so many people died practically ruined us well. Thank thank you for your time and the beer this helps me a plan to present a formal complaint director stuyvesant and send another copy to Europe. He stands to leave but you stop him. Mr Vondra Don just a thought stuyvesant knows malign account or as the leaders of the opposition but I've noticed that even though you've questioned that soldier commander that stuyvesant thought was insubordinate he likes you. That's probably because of his wife she neither from the same town so maybe he doesn't fully the associate you with the opposition. Maybe you can make use of that. When you mean let others the public face of the opposition you you get in his good graces become an Hindi Vander doc changed his tactics and began Gann making a public show of assisting stuyvesant in secret though he continued to craft formal legal complaint against the west India company his idea was that this would encourage courage the Dutch government to take management of the colony away from the company and make it an actual Dutch province that would ensure the colonists human rights were protected and it would make the colony more secure Manhattan under the Dutch with its mix population in it's free trading ways would continue Vander dos letter of complaint went into graphic detail saying kief soldiers had slaughtered area tribes people and as a result of the tribes counterattack new Amsterdam was reduced to piles of ashes from the burnt houses and the bones of the cattle just as he had been taught at law school founder dog then quoted ancient Greek and Roman writers on the question of what people could do you win. A rule was unjust having concluded that this was potentially a landmark case one that would shape the law of the future. He built to a dramatic crescendo. The matter didn't just relate to the Dutch but was applicable everywhere he wrote. Let us see what the law of Nations thinks of it. Vander Dunk decided it would be wisest to keep his identity as author the letter hidden it was sent to stuyvesant and the Brash head of the colony replied with scorn at the idea of ordinary people questioning their leaders in response stuyvesant quoted the Bible. Thou shalt not revile the odds nor cursed the ruler of the people it was a true battle of ideas on one side an authoritarian perspective on the relationship between subjects and ruler and on the other a theory of law based on human rights after receiving the letter order stuyvesant was full of righteous indignation. He declared that to act as malign encounter had done was mutiny and therefore they should face capital punishment when malign said he would appeal stuyvesant harsh verdict stuyvesant shot back people may think of appealing during my time but should anyone do so I would have made a foot shorter impact the pieces off to Holland and let him appeal that way later though stuyvesant cooled down. Maybe feared the chopping off the heads of the two popular leaders. There's might bring all the colonists into open rebellion or just as bad it might cause a mass exodus you would be humiliating to assume the leadership of Akali only to see emptied so instead of executing them. He changed his verdict and ordered the two men banished from noon on August. Sixteenth sixteen forty seven the ship Princess Amelia sailed away from New Amsterdam onboard was Willem Kieft he was going to appeal his removal from office and on behalf stuyvesant to claim that the colonists who accused him of wrongdoing were the ones who deserve punishment but also on board was countering malign kief sworn enemies the very man who had put their names down as the leaders of the opposition to Keith rule they were returning to Holland to appeal stuyvesant ruling against them asking to be allowed to return to America where they had forms had built families and live their lives Vander Doc. Meanwhile managed to keep himself offer move from the center of opposition stuyvesant knew he had been involved with the line encounter but vandor Dong kept his identity has authored the formal complaint hidden and wants to the ship had left. He made every effort to ingratiate himself with stuyvesant. He became an advisor to the director and assisted him in important matters at one one point a new head of the patroonship of Rensselaer Wick was chosen. This colony within the colony have been started by one of the directors of the west India company it existed within in New Netherland but Kieft had let it govern itself that didn't sit well with stuyvesant though so when the new leader of Rensselaer Wick arrived and declared that he alone had authority already within the petroleum chef stuyvesant boarded a ship and road one hundred fifty miles north to face him bringing vander DONC along with him. The young man was not only a lawyer he had originally served as sheriff of Rensselaer Wick so he knew the place and its administration well with Vander dunks. Aid stuyvesant succeeded in establishing his authority already over the other man in an assisting stuyvesant vander donkin courage the director to see him as an ally in stuyvesant did he leaned on vander dunk more and more whereas he was settling in his job of running. The colony stuyvesant was in many ways a very capable administrator and he took his work seriously he wanted the public to support him so he pointed a new council of nine men to help him govern when it came time to replace some of the counselors stuyvesant chose. Vander dont for one of the positions upon his appointment -pointment the other counselors named Van Dunk their leader President of commonality was the title they gave Him Banner Dong Stealth campaign was now complete and the stage was set for a face off side isn't and Vander Don were the two most powerful men in the colony then incredible news reach Manhattan the Princess Amelia had sunk off the coast of Wales before reaching the Dutch republic most of those aboard including Willem Kieft died even more incredibly vander dogs to allies malign counter survived and then made their way to The Hague Hague there. They presented the case of the inhabitants of new Netherland. Meanwhile on Manhattan van continued working like a deft politician since since it was his goal to get governance of the colony out of the hands of the company and into the hands of the people he devoted time to learning how the company ran its business. The hub commercial activity on Manhattan was the city tavern which was located at the dock where small boats road newcomers ashore from ships anchored in the Harbour Vander DONC met here with with traders newly arrived from Europe. He learned what mattered to them. What affected the price of beavers and tobacco from the colony of salt from the Caribbean and of manufactured goods from in Europe. He calculated that the colony was now processing eighty thousand beavers are year and he was acutely aware of events in England where the civil war was affecting trade on Manhattan atten giving the Dutch new opportunities then vander. Don took a step toward his ultimate goal. He penned another formal document a petition on on behalf of the nine members of the council the nine men as they began calling themselves the petition informed stuyvesant of decision they had reached. They did not in fact serve him anymore but rather the people of the colony stuyvesant was undoubtedly the west India companies man but from now on they were the People's Council stuyvesant barely had time to react when another shock arrived rowing ashore was cornelius malign one of the leaders of the opposition who had recently recently survived the shipwreck and Wales and as soon as he stepped on the docks of new Amsterdam he gave his news the states general the governing body of the Dutch republic had listened to him and his colleague they concluded in a formal document that keeps war against the Indians was in their words contrary to all public law and that it had resulted in atrocities that must startle the Christian heart further the prince of Orange himself the aristocratic ruler of the army who was in many people's. This is the personification of the Dutch nation penned a letter to stuyvesant you will receive by the bears hereof commands which the high and mighty lords of the states general have resolved to communicate to you that you allow these people to enjoy their property free and unmolested stuyvesant rule banishing the two men have been countermanded commanded by the highest authority. The people had voiced their objection to their ruler and they were vindicated. There was rejoicing in the streets of new Amsterdam that night in the fort. The director of the colony far from giving him was preparing fightback American history tellers is sponsored by ziprecruiter hiring can be a slow process cafe alterra. Coo Dylan Moskowitz needed to hire era director of coffee for his organic coffee company but he's having trouble finding qualified applicants so he switched to ziprecruiter because Ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you you it finds them for you. 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Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire now that the Dutch government had signalled that it was inclined to side with the Colonists Audrey and Vander doc decided to his time to reveal his role in the opposition he met with stuyvesant and informed him that the nine men intended to send its own representative to the states general in The Hague for stuyvesant such a step would directly undermine his leadership. He reacted with rage banner. Dong later said that the director referred to him him and the others as rebels and that hanging was too good for them but vandor donkey and his colleagues were undeterred and conducted a house to house survey asking every resident of new Amsterdam for their complaints about the company intention was to put as much detail as possible into a petition to the Dutch government that would ask them to take control of the colony hauling away from the west India company new Amsterdam was a tiny place. All sixteen of its streets were grouped around the fort which was the center of Government stuyvesant Everson of course noticed what was going on. He ordered soldiers to go to the home where Vander DONC rented a room. The soldiers broke in found the dossier notes from the House to house canvassing canvassing and gave it to stuyvesant who erupted he ordered Vander Donka arrested and jailed and QS him of high treason against the sovereign stuyvesant isn't then announced a public meeting at the church which everyone in town was expected to attend their he planned to read out his indictment Vander Donc and the other conspirators but before four he could the nine men sprung a surprise one of them stood up to read out the official decree of the states general in which the governing body chastise stuyvesant the public hadn't heard this yet stuyvesant knew what it was new it would be humiliating to him and tried to grab the notice out of one of the councilmens hands in that moment moment of chaos. He tore the document breaking off the official seal but realizing how desperate he looked in front of the crowd he stopped and allowed the paper to be read in that moment the people of new Amsterdam heard that their government had condemned Kief says war approved of the nine men as popular representatives and chastise stuyvesant Everson for trying to thwart them stuyvesant was defeated. He left the church. He released founder. Dong from custody for the moment there was no other choice of action pawn his release Vonk went into high gear. He wrote an eighty three page indictment of the west India company's mismanagement of the colony and at the end of July sixteen ecksteen forty nine with two of the nine men he boarded a ship bound for Holland. It was autumn when more than two months later vander don found himself back in Europe in the land of his birth. It must have felt strange. He'd become accustomed to the wilderness of his adopted home across the Atlantic Lanuch in his nine years there he had become an American but back at the Hague he appeared before the governing body and presented his argument that it should take direct charge arch of the North American colony. His appeal was impassioned. He knew the Dutch leaders understood little about their colony. They had been focused on Asia where their largest prophets came from but the American colony he told them satisfied continents so vast that even the native tribes didn't know how far westward at ran it was full of timber and other riches which is an endless new world to explore and the Dutch were uniquely suited to settling it because their policy of tolerance and their free trading ways gave them a rich which robust society he put it the Dutch regard foreigners virtually as native citizens as long as they are prepared to adapt he drew the attention of the leaders in particular to the heart of the colony Manhattan an island that was remarkably strategically located he said of the island it's very well adapted on account of the convenience into the river and a base from which we may pursue trade all the way to Cape Florida to the West indies and to Europe and wherever the Lord our God shall be pleased to permit by but the government he warned had to act and give the settlers direct control over their affairs because the English were growing stronger in America one day the territory would grow so strong it would outstrip the home country and power but if the Dutch government didn't act the English would take the colony banner. Dong said it will lose even the name name of new Netherland after deliberating the government reached its decision it could no longer approve of the perverse administration of the privileges and benefits benefits granted by charter to the stockholders of the west India company while neglecting or hosing the good plans and offer submitted for the security of the boundaries and the increase of the population nation of that country they were siding with the Communists. The company had abused its authority for new Netherland. A new day was dawning. There were to important parts to the government's decree. The I was a municipal charter the city of New Amsterdam on Manhattan would henceforth be given official status as Dutch city. Even though it sat thousands of miles across the ocean from the nation the second part of the government's decree was sentenced that must've delighted Vander Dong Peter Peter Stuyvesant. The present director shall be instructed to return home and report. He was being recalled. Vander Dunk had one and he and his two companions opinions must've celebrated all night through his years in America Vander Donka developed beliefs about the place that he was a land of the future that settling it could the only truly come about if it was combined with these new ideas about human rights and freedoms and now it appeared it would happen and he himself at age thirty had brought it about but then just as suddenly it all came crashing down in July sixteen fifty two within days of the states general decision the English ruler Oliver Cromwell declared war on the Dutch republic faced with a crisis the Dutch government decided it was a bad time to experiment with political critical reforms. They rescinded the order recalling stuyvesant and ask for Vander Dong much as they may have agreed with him principal. He was to fiery a figure for the present he was forbidden to sail back to new Netherland. where it was feared he would stir things up at a time when the nation had to be united it was a stunning reversal but it wasn't and couldn't be the end of things after absorbing the shock vander? Don got busy on another front. New Netherland desperately needed settlers so he took it upon himself himself to advertise he wrote a book about the colony the description of new Netherland which became a bestseller through it many Europeans. I heard about the I learned call Manhattan. He poured out his heart in the book. Extolling the virtues of America he described the meadows lakes and streams the mountains the animals elsa birds the grapevines the herbs even the wins everything in America he declared was bigger than in Europe and better and he described the possibilities ability for trade how open it was how bright the future was everything in America was promising and fresh so unlike Europe and it's tired old traditions that there there's no room for what he called Pessimistic Persons Magin. You're a Flemish merchant just just arriving in the Dutch city of The Hague your back from a long and fruitless venture to several other cities trying to sell a relatively new product team. It's a big hit but that's the problem. The market's flooded. You've invested your life savings in this venture and now you're desperate to find buyers as you get off the ship. Yep you see a crowd on the dock. You go up to a stranger young harried man who seems to be carrying everything he owns as he shepherds his wife and two young children ahead of him. Hey there sir. What's all this commotion about? We're offering new. Netherland never heard of it the Dutch colony in America. Where have you been. Haven't you read the book about it. He reaches into his sack and pulls out his copy. You mean to say read a book about America and now you're going to move there to sail for weeks. Possibly facing storms or pirates or God forbid shipwreck. You must be mad. Surely you realize there's no civilization in America in the winter the whole continent packs snow and ice. It's full of wild animals. You'll be eaten alive. I don't know where you get your information but if by wild animals you mean beavers minks honors Yes. The continent is full of them. The column shipping hundreds of thousands of first her year and thousands of barrels of salt are being moved from the Caribbean to Manhattan and then to Europe the the tobacco trade is booming as well though cities are people have built new Amsterdam and Barrow a rough but lively fast growing and they're all about trade everyone everyone in new Amsterdam is a traitor and of course you were a traitor to a quick witted enterprising man of business I see and what are the the people in new Netherland consuming. What products of ours are they buying just about everything they have no manufacturing yet to think they might like. T- Vander dogs book was so successful that hundreds of people who read it marched to the port ready to sail to America even members of Vander dunks family including his mother sailed off to make their home in the natural paradise of Manhattan Eventually Vander Donc himself was allowed allowed to return to what had become his true home but he was forbidden from getting involved in politics. His last years are a mystery with few details surviving. He retired to his estate date. Just north of Manhattan in sixteen fifty five there was a sudden Indian attack in the region. No details survive but VANDOR DONC was apparently one of the casualties an irony considering he was one of the advocates for better relations with native tribes. Peter stuyvesant though lived on and he grew stronger as director of the colony. The colony grew stronger as well. Thanks in part Vander Docs recruiting mission it secured more rights for the inhabitants and with its municipal charter new Amsterdam now now had an official city council who represented not the company but the people they turned the Old City tavern into City Hall and there they began making decisions they conducted a census of the population built roads and fortifications around the city to protect it from possible attack by the English and along the northern end they built a Wall Street that ran alongside got a name that would become a landmark for generations to come. Wall Street you next on American history tellers. The English finally set their sights on taking Manhattan and the Dutch calling Peter stuyvesant has a choice to make fight and risk everything or negotiate a lasting settlement from wondering this is American history tellers my hope you enjoyed this episode if you did subscribe right now on Apple podcasts and spotify who go podcast one dot com or wherever you're listening right now if you're listening on smartphones tap or swipe over the cover art of this podcast awesome you'll find the episode not including some details. You may have missed. You'll also find some offers from our sponsors by supporting them. You help us offer this show to you for free. We'd also like to learn a little bit about you. Please complete a short survey at wondering dot com slash survey. That's wandering dot com slash survey. 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Jan 11, 2012: Joran van der Sloot Pleads Guilty

Today in True Crime

12:53 min | 5 months ago

Jan 11, 2012: Joran van der Sloot Pleads Guilty

"This episode is brought to you by bio life plasma services. Your plasma is desperately needed to help treat those who are most at risk right now and when you donate plasma bio life you can earn up to seven hundred dollars in your first month. Become a donor at bio life visit bio life plasma dot com to schedule an appointment. Today is monday january eleventh twenty twenty one on this day in two thousand twelve. Your in vander sloat pled guilty to the two thousand. Ten murder of stephanie florez. But his bloody crimes likely didn't end there. Welcome today and true crime. A spotify original from podcast. Due to the graphic nature of this killer's crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen. Today we're covering the case of murderer. jorn vandersloot. Let's go back to january eleventh two thousand twelve to a courtroom in lima peru. Twenty four year old. Your in vandersloot stood before the panel of judges hands clasped in front of him and button-down shirt undone at the top. His ears stuck out from his shaved head and his face looked uncomfortable but not particularly troubled despite the fact that he was confessing to murder and apparently was very sorry for what he had done as he put it. Yes i want to plead guilty. I wanted from the first moment to confess. Sincerely i truly am sorry for this act. I feel very bad. Of course regardless of how he really felt about his crime confessing was his best bet for a milder sentence especially considering the solid case against him it began on may thirtieth two thousand ten at lima casino. Were vander sloat was attending a poker tournament and met a twenty one year old college. Student named stephanie flora's stephanie. The daughter of a prominent peruvian businessman stopped communicating with her family and friends on the same day. She met your vandersloot by june second. They were frantic and working with the police to find her. Find her. they did in your and vandersloot hotel room. Unfortunately by the time they got there it was too late. She was severely beaten and her neck was broken. Stephanie florez was dead. A quick search revealed that her credit cards and money were missing a preliminary investigation indicated that she had last been seen around five. Am on may thirtieth going up to the hotel room with vander sloat and a comb through the hotel surveillance videos showed that approximately four hours later. Vander sloat left the room alone carrying his bags. He'd made his way to cheer but the evidence was stark peruvian. Authorities requested an extradition and on june seventh. The young poker player was arrested and sent back to lima. He played a very poor hand and now he was paying the price. The flora's family was pushing for the hardest sentence possible as their lawyer. Put it this individual. Is a psychopath. And a psychopath cannot be freed because if that happens. He becomes a danger to society in the end. They got their wish. A panel of judges sentenced vendors. Sloat to twenty eight years in prison and ordered him to pay seventy five thousand dollars as reparations to the floor as family but not before vander. Sloths lawyer made of very strange plea for leniency. His client had lost his temper with stephanie. Yes he beat and strangled and suffocated her to death but it was only after. She went on his computer without his permission and discovered his connection to another murder case. The trauma experienced after that first murder accusation was so great that it led him to kill stephanie. Florez coming up the origin of your vendors slowed status as a celebrity criminal listeners. Have you heard the eerie new podcast. Superstitions every wednesday explore the varying beliefs people around the world. Fear and follow in this mystifying series from podcast. You do not want to miss it each week. Step inside stories that illustrate the horror. Weirdness and truth behind humanity's train just codes of conduct. Why do black cats represent witchcraft. What's the point of carrying a rabbit's foot around with you. And how come. Certain films seem cursed and others don't each new episode of superstitions presents. A story that unlocks the mysteries of unorthodox traditions and surreal phenomena. They may seem cryptic or illogical or completely insane. But then again do they follow the spotify original from podcast superstitions. Freon spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. As you enjoy this episode take a moment to think about those that go rogue like the rogues in your family who play by different rules. They're law abiding citizens of course but the love to escape the ordinary whether it's for a few minutes or an entire weekend the all new twenty twenty one nissan rogue was made for them. The ones that can go from getting their hands dirty in the kitchen to getting their boots dirty on hike at a moment's notice the all new. Two thousand twenty one. Nissan rogue is fiercely reimagined for wherever the road takes you or wherever you take the road with five unique drive modes sport off road. Snow auto an echo. You and your family explore almost anywhere with the turn of odile so get out there and go rogue discover more at nissan. Usa dot com now back to the story on january eleventh two thousand twelve urine vander slowed pled. Guilty to the murder of stephanie florez. He was sentenced to twenty eight years in a peruvian prison for the crime which he is still serving as of this recording. but before the flora's case put him behind bars. He faced a murder accusation. In another case. This one in dutch-speaking aruba where vendor sloat grew up. It was made thirtieth two thousand five exactly five years to the day before stephanie florez disappeared vander slowed was seventeen and alabama teenager. Natalie holloway was in aruba on a post high school graduation trip with some of her classmates. That night natalie was seen leaving local club carlos and charlie's with vandersloot and two of his friends. It was around one. Am she was never seen again. In the aftermath of natalie's disappearance bender slowed and his friends were arrested twice. Bender slowed story changed multiple times. At first he assured investigators that after leaving the club with natalie. He immediately dropped her off at her hotel later. He changed his story claiming they went down to the beach and at her request he left her alone there now. He claimed he was extremely regretful. He should never have left her alone. Investigators weren't convinced by vander slowed story but natalie's body was never found and they were never able to gather enough evidence to charge the teenager or his friends with murder so they released him. In fact vendor sloat didn't just go free to the frustration of natalie's devastated family. The case garnered enough international media attention to give vander sloat a twisted kind of fame in two thousand seven. He even wrote a book chronicling his version of events. On the night natalie disappeared. It was published in the netherlands and never translated into english. But it made statements. Like i am no angel but i did nothing illegal and i am certainly not a murderer. It seemed that whatever happened. Vander slowed had come out on top until five years later when another young woman disappeared after last being spotted in his company while vendors slots lawyer did his best to spin the connections between holloway and flora's cases as something in vendor sloths favor for most spectators and the judges the sixth symmetry of the disappearances did nothing to improve the dutchman's case so twenty eight years behind bars just to less than the prosecution was seeking to this day. Vander slowed has never been officially convicted of kidnapping or killing natalie. Holloway but for the holloway family vander. Sloths conviction finally meant some measure of closure. At least the man they believed killed. Their daughter was imprisoned where he couldn't hurt anyone else. Natalie's father dave put it this way. Just knowing he's behind bars will help out. You've just gotta take a step back and say he's behind bars. And that's probably as good as we're going to get. The holloway family sought another kind of closure after the floor as trial as well an official declaration of death for their daughter a probate judge in jefferson county alabama granted the request a day after vendor slowed pled guilty to killing flora's at least the facts. Are there in writing. Natalie like stephanie is gone their loved ones. Can mourn and slowly find ways to move forward Thanks for listening to today and true crime. I'm vanessa richardson for more stories about chilling murders. Check out my other show serial killers today in true. Crime is a spotify original from podcast. You can find more episodes of today in true crime and all other spotify originals. From podcast for free on spotify. We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in true crime today in. True crime is a spotify original. From podcast it is executive produced by max cutler sound designed by juan boorda with production assistance by ron shapiro. Carly madden and brusca kovic. 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RHOBH  The Truth is Rising to the Top

Let's Talk TV with Charis

20:15 min | 2 years ago

RHOBH The Truth is Rising to the Top

"In the game of life it's renna take off people talk about their fantasies. I'm living i in business and in life i wear many hats and hairstyles. You can stop in the bath lost. You kiss my oss oss. I'm not afraid of hard work but i'll never do your dirty work with tabloids. My real life is so much choosier easier in beverly hills. The truth always has a way of rising pillow everyone and welcome to let's talk tv. I'm your host cares. Dylan and we're gonna get right into it. This is just going to be a short episode to talk about the real housewives of beverly hills season nine episode one and today. I have my husband with me kyle. Hello kyle mccurry's. Thank you so much for joining me of course of course cal- actually does like this show so i mean excited. Man trails was fan so just new york beverly hills the best to yes <hes> so anyways. This episode was kind of jam packed. I wanted to i talk about the new tag lines and that's everyone's favorite part of all the housewives franchises 'cause they're so stupid and so funny and i don't know i don't know who came came up with this idea but it's awesome so yeah so lisa arenas is in the game of life. It's really take all take all yeah. Oh my gosh and they always have like in. I think they've had the in the game of life before ons yeah. I've heard that sony times yeah. Was it erica. Jana had that no. I think it was like an old season of new new york. Maybe so i gotta look it up but i know that that in the game of life has been ah tagline before yeah. I'm a actually look it up while you're okay. The next one is erica's in an as most people talk about their fantasies. I'm living mine yeah. That was kinda man. I know 'cause she could had such a better one. Yeah what could have been. I mean i can't think of anything off the top of my head right now but there's gotta what they say. Hey it's expensive to be me but nothing's expensive for me. I could be a good one yeah song. I just came up with that off the top of my head right i mean how hard is it look at you. Fly doritos my least favorite housewife of all time go home dri. We don't like you. I'd rather have a viva. This girl is bringing in the drama right now. I'm loving it yeah but she is an idiot and did you see the tweets that bethany posted stood about duri about her son biser. Yeah yeah you show me those are funny but hers is in business and in life. I wear many hats yes and hairstyles what so they're really playing up these hats and hairstyles. I guess all season. I'm hoping every episode she's wearing effort hat she. It was like <hes> and like all gucci with that visor. That was not a good look. She's just oh and i can't wait to get into more more because apparently her in p._k. Or like extremely broke so that her clothing line no oh my micro loan that p._k. Took out and then he never paid it back and then he's being sued oh shit just a whole bunch of stuff that should be coming out okay and then lisa vander pump is you can stab me in the back but whilst you're there kiss my ass the that gives you some foreshadowing for this yes says on entertainment tonight they posted this and they said lisa vander pump who you will seemingly be at the heart of the drama this year <hes> shares a warning okay <hes> and then teddy hers is. I'm not afraid of hard work but i'll never do your dirty work so i don't know those kind of dumb <hes> yeah. It says that it says follows l. v._p. And our tagline almost seems like a response to lisa vendor pump aw maybe and then okay denise richards the she she's yeah okay. She's the new edition and she used to be married. You too charlie sheen and she has kids with them so it could get interesting luke yeah. It already got interesting but hers says my problem what the tabloids my real. Life is so much juicer. Ooh that's pretty good yeah and then kyle's always my favorite <hes> kyle richards. It's in beverly hills. The truth always has a way of rising to the top and i like that they put kyle in the center this year and not at least vander pump yeah sounds the first time i think is a really i think so interesting. I think that lisa vander pump has always been in the middle but you know like we said some of these tag. Lines are like foreshadowing so what what was carlos again in beverly hills. The truth always has a way of rising to the top so so maybe this season call because a bread maker may be very jenna fischer making bread together uh-huh yeah okay but anyways i'm excited. I thought the first episode was pretty good. It was better than anything from was already better than last. Season didn't take much though it did not come. We kind of get to see them all interacting interacting and it seems like it's been like the first time in a while that some of them have seen each other but you can really tell that kyle and teddy are really close friends now and that's. I think that's good. I definitely can see why they're friends yeah because they have like they seem to have a lot in common and everyone like really hated teddy last season but i think teddy was good addition and like kyle. She's he's like a very <hes>. She's kinda. Sh i don't know she makes friends pretty easily. Yeah and i think that it's good that they have her on. There and i just hope that it's not like a bethany and carol situation and a couple of seasons <hes>. I hope it i hope it. I hope it's not because that's <music>. That would be really sad. I love a good fight on the housewives but i think that <hes> i mean i'm sure that they'll fight. Eventually 'cause even re- ramona i and sonya don't hang out anymore. Remember how like inseparable they were so. I don't know it's it's it'll be interesting to watch but this this season's mostly going to be about dery adopting a dog from vander pump dogs and then returning the dog are giving a dog dog to a person who does the dog and then gave it to like a kill shelter yeah so whenever the so whenever have you get a dog from a shelter or a rescue they microchip the dog and i'm sure in l._a. Because it is such a dog city and county that it's like a requirement that you microchip your dog like it is in waco yeah and so we're basically legally <hes> well. It's a smart thing to do because lose your pet. Then you can scan your dog and then they can say oh the dog belongs to blah blah blah so they scan the dog and they found out that the you know i'm sure that every rescue uses like a specific type of chip and you can see like the location that it was chipped and and then who the dog went to after it was chipped. I'm sure there's like tons of information that you can see and so they figure out that it belonged to avenger pump dogs and then they returned when they call vendor pump. Dogs apparently vander pumped dog said oh we know who's dog that was you can just just bring it back to us so they brought it back to banner pump dogs and that was one of the first scenes and to to me so this is my theory and this is not what they've said yet but so it was completely leaked to the press a couple of months ago that this all went down with us on page six yeah and it was completely leaked to the press and they think one hundred percent was lisa bender pump that leaked to the press it oh really that's the whole fight. Oh see. I didn't know what's going on okay so they thank god you're talking about language yeah so that's the whole but at the point that we see in the show nothing had been released to the press at all yeah because we saw so lucy apple juicy is the dog's name by the way i'm circling lucy but like this this season it starts off with a kyle and lisa vanapope getting into and then they do like a wants earlier months earlier so yes so that all makes sense okay okay so that's kind of the point if you wanna find out more and i feel like these two blogs are really good. Teddy posted a really like in depth blog about who she talks to who she doesn't very detailed so i definitely would recommend gory data data on bravo t._v. Dot com and then also kyle has a really good blog as well so somebody's like cover up their tracks. Kalisa vander pump has always been. This is always a member whenever erica's. Jane said she snipes people from the side. Yeah i mean that's erika jayne. Jane put it perfectly and that's how we savannah. Pump has always operated. She's always been the type that if something is really not going her way she's gonna make it go her way and she's going to try to do secretive but people are starting to catch on and i'm sure i haven't went back and rewatch touched very much from the beginning but i'm sure if i did i might could see it more because she hasn't changed. She's not like a changer. She's always been the same but let you like you. When you started watching i think you've gr- each season you more and more or less like lisa vandross. I know i i've always really liked her that the dogs and like all animals because i'm such an animal lover but i think <hes> the way that she treats her friends isn't very good quote unquote for yeah yeah and i do think that her and kyle are real friends and that's why i think that kyle kyle's a lot like me in that she's very like loyal and when people break her loyalty or break our trust and she can't be loyal to them anymore like really hurts her like really takes a toll on her that way to like somebody hurts me that i've like poured in mine time and energy into and then they hurt me like that really takes a toll on me so i always like <hes> empathize with kyle. What because i feel like she she always means well. Yes but i know that not. Everybody's like a huge fan of kyle so i'll probably get like backlash but i think out of all the housewives at least out of new york and beverly hills kyle is the most likable she's always kind and she is a family person. She's you know no matter what's going on with like her sisters or whatever whatever's going on behind the scenes on camera cameras. She's always you know put together. She's not like the super you know. She is super rich but she's yeah. I don't know she always just seemed kind of more like a normal. Oh person to me at least so. I guess 'cause louis. She interacts with her kids and she doesn't seem like she has like thirty nannies. You know she kind of seems a little bit more normal. Which is i think why people love her but normal for beverly hills. Is it normal for for me true but anyways. I really enjoyed this first episode. I think it was really good. <hes> there were it was mostly like i said just just about <hes> all this lisa vander pump actually lost her brother before they started filming so that's really sad and i think lisa banner pump is has went through a lot this year. So of course you know they are going to talk about that on the show but i don't know i thought that this episode was really good head and i think that really shows kind of lisa vander pump and how she works yeah because they did like that whole sit down dinner to the jury in p._k. Baci hi oh god he's the worst knee p._k. He's isn't he's so annoying. These super annoying. He is super allied and she's just so in love with him like the weirdest relationship he so ugly somebody instead on here. What did they say. I was just reading this <hes> this article and it says the story is career got a dog from lisa and the kids and her husband p._k. Got this on his nose yeah and it says a bit the kids the dinner has been p._k. A foreskin in search of a dick oh my god yeah yeah pretty disgusting <hes> anyways. This article is actually really good. I love going in reading these recaps because they're always like really descriptive. It's from vulture dot com. Oh yeah but it wasn't it. What did you think about lisa renna in her goat. Yoga yoga do like the beginning of the epa. I didn't really care. I didn't really care about the go yoga to see her. Daughters are so pretty brady. They are cheaper interacts with them because i think she has a really good mom would like the whole goat yoga thing. I didn't care to watch that like i guess some people liked it wouldn't for me. I didn't really care and then like the whole big game hoping thing her problem with the previous documentary we just talked about we did previous episode. Watch the stupid documentary about stupid wrestler anyways boo. I was talking about that document. He was not humanize. We didn't ever see him. We never saw him interact with this cha his children whenever saw him do anything and i think that's the whole point of the real housewives is yes. They wanna show the drama but they want to humanize these people so you take sides in the drama. That's the fun of it but then the because of course it's like lisa renner they've done and they have done a perfect job of humanizing her. You know that she calls her husband harry hamlin you know that she sells <hes> those baggy baggy pants on q._v._c. You know that she does really good with her daughters and she's very nice to them and gives them everything so i and she's a dog person. She loves her dogs dogs so like you know a lot about her so whenever she gets in a fight with someone else even if she's wrong people still take her side look at bethany and carol errol. Bethany was a piece of shit but everybody loved her because it's bethany so that's the whole i know but that's the whole point of of the go yoga and that's what i'm trying to say. That's the whole point of showing these women. They are characters. That's the whole point of showing them. Did you like the whole but i did. You like the whole produced segmenting sting yes. I thought that was pretty dumb. Yeah yeah that they're starting to do that more on all the shows i hated it. I hated it because that was the first thing you know. It's just a <hes>. This season's going to be bad that that was good but like dallas bipartisan pressure. I was like god this all my gosh. We've got to talk about the shark cute it wasn't it called charcuterie yeah at kyle's house jesus christ that was bigger than my house. It was like as big as our desks that we have computers. I gave us longer. It was huge and it was filled with food like the most it was like meats and cheeses probably probably five thousand dollars it worth of meat and cheese. I mean they had a tributary artists. They're putting all that together and it had like those little capers offers and olives and pickles. Oh my gosh so good i was like. Can i just go eat there. I will i will serve. I will wear what the peasant isn't swear. I just want to go there on it on the food. I just want to be on it. That's how good it looks. Oh my gosh but yeah that was and that was like going all over instagram and twitter people were talking about that shirk eatery. <hes> <hes> that is you say right. I think so yeah okay. I always try to say wrong when i'm like oh. It's fine okay but i did really like the episode <hes> out of ten from one to ten. What are you give it. I would give it like i would say like charlie sheen and would like six those two this yeah i get it compared to last season. It's a ten out of ten and already it. I think it's going to be really good. I hope that we're not going to be let down. That's what i hope but i thought it was really good yeah but i think he's going to be a good season yeah yeah so i think it comes on on tuesdays. Tuesday's yeah yeah tuesdays at eight sensual. Yes <hes> so yeah. It's on bravo. You can watch it on the bravo app or wherever you watch t._v. Yeah and it's not on who the next day notice not so does umbro yeah you can watch on the bravo app and i'm sure you can figure out where else to watch it. I mean whatever but if you if you like this podcast and you want more podcast about housewives. Please message me on on twitter at t._v. With kerris or instagram at t._v. with karras and thanks kyle for talking to me about this and i think we're going to try to do recaps night of from now on but ochre like we did last season of beverly hills but we'll see it's not then it'll just be like the next monday that l. Oh come out before the new episode kuku figure it out but anyways thank you so much. I'm so happy to be back and i'm gonna try to be consistent from now on putting out episodes because i sucked 'cause because i'm always putting out episodes for kyle so all i love you only have so much time in the day but i like talking about this kind of stuff so if you like to it to please let me know <hes> on twitter instagram. Thank you so much guys have a good day.

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I'm Ben Mandil Kerr from the real housewares of kitchen island cartoon that's available on YouTube new episode is up right now. Go check that out. Please. Subscribe I want subscribers while them and joining me is the wonderful lovable. Ronnie karem. Hi from. From roseburg's bachelor rose podcast, which is just wrapping up its latest season. What's going on, sir? To more or we just wrapped up. Everybody thinks wrapped up our final two. Yeah. No. We didn't we reunion. We wrapped final rose. Whatever we did it after the final rose stunned. I'm obviously Lebie after finishing it. What are we what are we? We're still year at south by southwest. It's bonkers bonkers would have bunk dragging our asses around here like confused drunk potatoes. Joy. Yeah. Complaint secured office chair in my hotel room. Oh my goodness. There's a lot one. So yeah, we are still in our Janke hotel room somehow surviving barely staring at Ronnie right now. And I'm also staring at the strange grocery rack, that's in the corner of hotel room. In some weird claw thing on the wall. There's so they have their their photos on the wall decor, and they mounted them putting that double sided tape on the wall. But they didn't need tape is fully sticking out from below the frame. This is seen better days. But let's concentrate on the important things Beverly. That's why we are year to talk real house has Beverly Hills before we dive into that we are going to Cincinnati and just a few days. This has been a monster week for us. We had Sarb DC Benz out by south west go into Cincinnati. We have two shows on Saturday. The late show is sold out. We're talking real house of New York at that show, the early show tickets, we're gonna talk summer house get. Okay. Lindsey. John's Saturdays for the boys. Right. So we're gonna have so much fun making fun of the this summer house people there, even if you don't watch summer house or you're like that show is like awful. It's like, yeah. That's the point. We're going to be so fun. We are going to tear it apart as usual but enough about that about our shameless. Okay. Let's dive into the house wet. Was a real housewares real housewives of Beverly manipulation text messages. How could you like that really house of out to my heart? This is not a very promising. Open to an episode guys are trying to make me believe that Kyle deserves the center fucking diamond. But no, she doesn't how dare you. And do I really need to see? Okay. If this was real house of kitchen island car would be distinct, strain k. She would be the one that just lays there and like collects all the crap. And just in noise you forever. And you're like why is this here? I guess it needs to be here. Yeah. Everyone then you have to pick it up and like manually like wipe your finger through it to get this. Grateful for it because you need a sink stranger. But at the same time like who actually likes it like that. And you all your kind of like if I have disposal. I really need this also. Well, I don't have a disposal, and you just made me go into like Beverly Hills dreams of like having a disposal. Like, what do I have to do in my garbage disposal? Okay. How do I move up is podcasting? Do I need to do. I need to go to school too late. I think disposals Erica Jane only because she'd be like. Yeah. Plunk down to me. So what it's gone now. More on Keven her warm up. You have to keep the water going because it's so thirsty that if there's not water running through it'll dry out and start chunking out metal spoons. So that was already better than this. I see. You're welcome everybody. Every four years every four years America. Does things we gather around to watch the Olympics. We elected new president. And it seems like we send another Kyle daughter off to college every four years. How many I feel like she has way more kids than we even realize she has more babies than a hamster? Yeah. How many kids have to go to college? How many times we have to watch? Because there was also because there was Kim sending kids off to college to it's just like a nonstop stream of Kyle sending girls to college. And I don't believe in hating children. I know the thousand crazy because of course, I do but just for the sake of conversation. Let's say I don't believe in hating children. I think it's unfair. And I don't hate so FIA, but I'm confused. I feel like so fee is another Katie from or pump paroles, I'm getting strong, Katie. I'm not even going to you know, she's still a minor. So I'm just gonna like. So you only attack babies who were completely little like little little children. I'm not gonna Tak teenager whose fragile okay. I'm just saying, Katie vibes. I mean, I know that. Main. But I think it's like evident that she is picked as even Kyle recognizes herself. I think she is picked up a lot of her mom's neuroses. So it's five thirty in the morning, and Kyle is they're all packing because they're going to send Sophie off to George Washington University in Washington where we just were in was bottom value. Bottom is where towards my cousin Lorant who's at our show went there, anyway, so so fears like mom. Me pack my vanity mirror. I can't do it. I was like, okay. Good luck in college. I know and crowds like we're packing this vanity mirror. You're not just ordering. Oh, no. She wasn't you. Just order one on Amazon we can have shipped to your place, and she knew this one specifically to go to call me. Mom. Convenient narrative Amazon prime. So they're all they're all packing Alexia already done with college. It's shocking. I feel like it was just another year ago that she went off to college that these kids I don't think that I'm at so FIA necessarily. I'm just mad that they're getting older because that means I'm getting older, and I'm not older young very young and fresh been. Yes, super, and I just I time on real house as always we watch everything about nine months year after after actually happens, then it's just like, I don't know. I get confused. Will get five new faces and said eight hamsters off to college. And I can't lose one pound like how can the world teams that everybody else? Exactly. So anyways, so Alexia there. It's five thirty in the morning and Alexi has basically walking around the house drunk because she just got home from showbiz birthday or they all just got like trash Shelby. So like it hurts. I can say that. Yeah. Time to John. Why would your kids ever work? I would never fuck and work going. I mean, I don't even know Marie. I feel like he should support me because I watch him on TV. That's how rich they are. She's going to work at the agency. Probably right. She could probably work in HR and have like a like a fake job at an HR. Like, she'll be the one. That's like Alexi is going to be in charge of. Human. Personnel development, and like she just going to go from place to place, and like she she she gets show people how to use social media. Yes. She's going to check in with people. Yeah. So be like, I don't know about your Twitter feed. So then yes, now, everyone, you know that sad. Sophie, like crying. It's it's hard going off. Whatever you get rich hugging. The kid hugging the dog, and I don't I don't like change like which is why you've just like moved away from your house just because the Pula shaped like a beam. Why you're about to move again? I can't remember last season was I mad about the pool shape or was supporting the pool shape. I think you're mad at the pool safe. I thought I was mad that she was mad at the pool. So we keep changing our minds. What we're mad about? Can't remember what we're mad about this season. I'm going to support the pool shape. I think because she was like Madge. You didn't like that her? She her Pula ship like a bean, and she wants like a square pool, I think and. Furious. Yeah. Is a fairly standard pool shape. What I understand pool in girl. Like, the pool we have here at the hotel that that's the color of Pula hate the white bottom. I hate that. So ugly dark bottom of a pool. I'm scared to look at the pool here and like pool safes. It change is trying to push your friends away like these Vander pump. Yeah. Well, she likes to change because this this is good change. She standing with the center diamond now sucker. That's right. That's change. So Renton east guess what? They're doing going to the canyon. Here's my theory. They don't let Lisa Renna film anywhere anymore. She'll break a glass or she'll start putting this on busboys or whatever. The producers are really hoping she'll get bit by a rattlesnake. She's like. Me. Make fun. Wearing warm. I don't even know where we all have been at the. Again, go my God. Lisa remedy. You're too excited to go speed walk like, you know, what I love Erica Reynoso, and I love L VP too. Just like. Oh, nice talk. Didn't you renaissance like how can I make this storyline about Denise husband cheating on her immediately? So so they're talking about Aaron and stuff and Isa's like well errands divorce is final. So we're going to get married. But what's funny is that for some reason road out in my note, I go errands divorces finals? So then he's an errand are gonna get divorced. She liked it. They're already skipping. Volition of a relationship Angeles. We roll this start. Well, I'm divorced. I thought I'd get divorced again. Just get divorced that we can get that out of the way. The pain out of the way. I yes, they're going to get married. I n Reynoso. Getting married. That's trying to laugh to her baited breath. No. There was probably like a rattlesnake those about to buy our runner rattlesnake. It was like. It was like. Rattlesnake? You'd always know. It's coming not only because it's rattled. But because it would be going. How are you? How are you? It doesn't bite. You just throws a duster on you. QB snake? Are you getting? Is it Mizrahi and are such good friends? A little snake with rent with Renna hair. You rent a hair like my favorite thing. I've ever thought of I feel like Renos laugh probably makes all the rows things come out. They probably think it's like feeding time. She. I don't even know how to person. But that could go everybody. I was helping my brother. Bam. So. So. Yeah. Two nieces like you ever getting married and Renan's like what I didn't know that which is way of saying, are you crazy. That. Drop your husband off the shelter and plan to reach me. That's that's great. I'm so glad you're getting married if you're gonna own that baby. Let's focus on that. Instead of dog business. Anyway, let's talk with the dog. No kidding. His bringing the dog business up. Every seem you even this scene. You, ma'am? You know, it's impossible to understand how much I can lovely. Serena and disagree with every fucking thing. She how do I do it. She cracks me every season. I disagree. But I'm still like, okay, you're funny. But again, it's like what I said I think last week which is that like I'm fully disagreed with her. But I'm enjoying how she's like having this moment. She's like so happy. She's relishing it, and she's just like trying to like, you know, like she just trying to. Just admiring her shamelessness so God. So here we go and Duri PK's, Terry. Romeo and Juliet happening right here. She's like up on a balcony like PK PK wherefore art the PK role. Obey discontinued bring me something to eat with. Gee, maybe maybe less warring something she she Lewis said baby come upstairs. I haven't seen you today. Baby. Right there. Trust me. This is his best angle. You're looking at him from from a balcony. Okay. There's no better space selfie than the balcony angle. Okay. This is the Romeo. Juliet version where Juliet goes for fire tax. Fire like robbing everybody families like okay, we could support that the Balaj chasing friar tuck three before. So he's like you look good today. Right way. We going. Okay. All. I'm. What do you do could some please explain to me what this bitch to be paid for those suits? Okay. You don't go to Disneyland and get a hat. That's monogrammed Beverly beach, and that means you own a company. Okay. Pay your bills woman in working. Let's going on Bubba. I'm like, ooh. Like, I just really continue to hate that they co opted Bubba from Katie. And Tom I can't with bad enough there. The fact that it has spread to them and started to spread last year. Now that she's aimed Bubba to. I'm officially pissed off that we've mentioned Katie twice in this recap. Okay. This is airing up. She's invading. Jeez. So to read has not talked to Lisa since the Bahamas and even worse be savannah pump did not call or text pecans birthday. But probably also because his like pay by the month. Cellphone ran out. No kidding. Do we blame? Lisa vander. Pumper? Cricket wireless. Go. Is it Lisa's fault or that jitterbug faults go Jenner bag? He's you haven't spoken with L VP. She never cold or take Sydney, I love her, and she's a genius at manipulation and control. And I love that about there's no one better than her at manipulating and controlling people. I've been sitting here next to my next telephone aiding for it to be. But it's hard when it's my own wife. I'm like, oh, God PK you probably drove her to those with that dog in the MAC apple apple juicy juicy Lucy. Goosey DC Pusey, I know jerks, jerks, and she won't let alone pick a and we can talk about. Okay. Let's try some honesty to read who's this woman that you gave the dog to what's her name. Look like. Silly. Promises to see the youth in Asia. So so yet to retire. I just want honesty. That's all I want is honesty, which is bullshit because she's like, so that's really why don't we talk about that lady. Who chased you down on your trip and told you to pay your bills how about that? We're that. We're we're going to that. So then PK's like artist say you need to go over there. And you say I just want to apologize once but extremely humbly your modesty. And she goes do I have the same St.. Sti these that were he's like, no treat. Good because I don't even understand what it means. Anyway. So people in the hotel hate us so much. I can't believe they haven't kicked me out of this room yet. I'm like we have to go back to the extended say not or bloodstains on the day. Okay. Everyone. I'm saying it extended stay in downtown Austin had bloodstains on the do vais. All right. Good look. So so PK, then they then there's like this like perfunctory moment here where they have to exonerate cover their bases. Like, babe. Is there any scenario that Teddy's making this up and to reach like it's hard to look at someone like teddy who has so much conviction and so much angst. And so little joy in joint fullness. And not believe her you have to believe less. She's talking about time, which he completely doesn't on. This have you seen the woman to work about? I mean, if anyone knows about time, it sounds because George time time time time and time and time, you know, that song PK, Cindy Lauper, babe. So Erica over to air catas-. Now, I don't know if you've noticed on Bravo this week, but there's a lot of dogs barking at their owner to get attention or to get food. And they're always like, no, we're not giving you the latest in the strength. And I don't know why I'm bringing it up. I just wrote wise this happening on every show. We're watching Bravo. The dogs like, okay, you're not hungry enough to eat yet. And this turn is Eric this time is Erica Stearns eating downs. Because why the dogs get to eat them when they can't you know, I was like dogs. Don't really do that. They're not like bark bark, I'm hungry. Like, they're not really a character that talks you like that. But then last night we were in this bar. Did you see that dog barking high to me? I was petting this dog Sochi by the way, you can tell when I lay invades Austin with people with our fucking dog and a nice bar. Like who does the nice bar awesome? I've never seen. So she's in there, and she's like a total L A girl with her dog on the floor. And I said hi, and I patted him because I missed I was like hi bueller. I miss you. And then every time I sit up he'd go. 'cause I was turning away. So my point is I have no point except the dog steel apparently bark you when they wanted tenting they're carrying out of here. Hello. This is Lisa Renna. We even add coming up you'd better listen to it baby. Anyway. So there's like there's like a knock on the door and teddy at erica's house, which is pretty shocking considering last season. And oh, thank God. Didn't ring the dog Al because it gets stuck. And it goes on on tonight, man. I mean, I thought it was a good idea when I lost my own though. Sit there for five hours waiting for Mr. derided come onto fixing all year. At the live. You know now that they've taken down. Lisa Vander pump. All these ladies thing, the star of the show, and you know, the Erica thinks that she is getting that center diamond because she's making everybody drive to Pasadena. No one lives like that. Okay. And you must feel like you have power. If you think my ass is going to drive to Pasadena to smell your moldy rickety ass house. I would rather drive to Pasadena then to the west side. I'm just saying it's a true statement drive to Pasadena. They really isn't so much prettier. Yeah, they do. And they also although marina does as well. That's true too. So. Erica's like teddy ain't no punk. She found a voice, you know. 'cause she's she stood up to Lisa Vanda pump. That should not be like the like like serve bullshit because teddy stood up to you. Also, Erica, she said up to like a lot of people. But it only counts if she goes up against your rival that bullshit. Yeah. So she's like that a lot of Shiva you're not gonna eat. But I got an excuse because that's just a noble girl next to eat like girl. Get me one of those specis boom slamma Jamma about ask. Like, I'm I'm sure hi, I'm teddy. She was filming a workout video for all in with teddy Mellencamp. I am teddy where you don't do any set of. But then you claim you dead and someone thinks you didn't you just blame somebody else to Eric Chappell the famous chapel, which is like a thing. I guess so then they have coffee Cup in the. So now, they're they're talking about the Bahamas and everything was fun until you know, everything happened. Yeah. So now talking about this whole dog scandal again. Yeah. Here we go. Teddy's like when you sit look slip things go. I mean, like, I didn't think you really going to let things go. Oh, you didn't. So teddy is basically saying how she was gossiping. I know, but you know, what? Lisa fed me information, and I bit at which point I thought to read it was gonna come running in and just like donate teddy to Shelley turn. Ted bit. No. She's a by that she's a biter we have to give it to a family. On this show. Oh, lovely family that wanted teddy have some advanced will utility. It's in this shot from about to give you next Shelly. So yes, so teddy. Okay. Now, let's all notice that teddy is completely changing her story now teddy. No, she's busted, and that John now that she's shown a crop taxed which was total bullshit now. She knows that. I guess production is told her that can is whip out all of John lizards tax making her look like a fucking liar, which he is. And so now she's changing her story last week. I never lie. I never tell one single. I I've never told. Now, suddenly your story is well, I was being shady. I mean, I don't wanna. I had no part. I was. Yeah. I was gossiping. But now it's Lisa banner pros fault begins even though she told them. I don't mean. It'll take Betty says. Yes, she says that she and Kyle run by advantage dogs. And that teddy was supposed to gossip basically about the the dog was be brought out intended to gossip about it. She's she said she's being helped to do that. She said that they said that Lisa wanted media now, and Eric Lee, Wiley you too. Guess eric. Okay. She's like coloring by numbers over there. And she gets very dramatic response. And I was kind of like texting with them. I was being penny. I was saying sure show me the t show me the wasn't being the best person and Eric like. Bad. Ah very dramatic with. Oh and do the teddy did Mike degree. But I didn't know you have it in vitally. She's like her own detective so right now, she's like really really into. I don't think you very that the rates. I just said I hated the bit case closed. So meanwhile, over at villa Rosa Shuki has drawn the short straw from like the dogs. They're like, okay. One of us to go humbly at least today who's going to do it. So Shuki goes up, and he's like literally like humping her arm. Schnittke? My fragile right now. And then Ken comes down like. Couldn't find the button mush it again expert chess going pink plotted skins on six. I didn't want to drink have to keep it together for this meeting with Bill is. Are you going to stay like arms around grip? Grip on Coutts. I can't talk to blizzard. So John blizzard shows up and kens like how young man than buzzes off Vander pumps like she says, I one hundred percent sure nothing to do with anything. And then. On the computer printouts. She was texting blizzard and letting me get hammered and didn't anything that whole time. So this is like now John blizzard. I know I don't know you very about can you confirm for America that I don't know you Mr Robert blizzard tone, hurricane I know the term. No, you've Jon snow's. All right nor'easter. Jones sprinkling outside. Oh, are you from game of thrones? Jon snow. Britney matz. And he's like, yes. Do not know you girl gas Queen chick. Now, you're not that kind of gay today. Switched onto employees gay. He's like, I guess it wasn't really right. Lisa. What I did shit. I'm not laughing. Really, I'm not now we both know that you work at the center. And before we started me thing. I appreciate everything you do for those dogs those dogs who don't have opposable thumbs to open call doors and escape when they're being kidnapped to Orange County to be put out. I'm so sorry that your good work at the shelter is being overshadowed by these offer women implicating that you a person who I don't know had something to do with this situation. I know nothing about so then back with teddy Nerissa Teddy's. They they wanted me to say pump dogs, but it couldn't go through with that. And Erica goes through with baby. She goes they wanted me to tell everybody about the dog and Erica goes. Yeah. Teddy's like Lisa was really adamant about not talking about the dog which made me realized she wants me to talk about the dog. Instead, and I could just tell she was gonna flip the truth. Yeah. I guess when I realized I was set up. Yeah. Yeah. I guess she thinks now she knows now that I'm sorry. It's more like that's when she realizes should being set up. And then when she showed Lisa the text messages. She's like it's only matter of time before now leases start flipping goes messages around on teddy. Yes. But she's not flipping them. You did do that. So unless you've got a call or text from Lisa's saying, let's bring it up, which you're not even claiming you did. Yeah. You're claiming that some twenty year old at the center told you to do. So you did which he didn't because we saw the tax, and okay, I just want to clarify. So what happened with text? Because now we've seen a larger thing is that is that teddy and John blizzard. We're gossiping about the situation with the dog, which I think is totally fine a normal. I don't think there's actually anything wrong with that. And she asked. Did Lisa like Lisa tell you to tell me no matter what this is going to come out. And then right after that. She texted Lisa tell you to tell me he said, yes. Yes. One tax in the very next sexy. Ide- k which means. How is saying that the yes was in response to the first text message that teddy is going to come out and at the I dunno is saying, let's Lisa. Either way teddy is going around, and again, I like teddy, but she's going around saying like I have definite proof and. As far as we can tell right now. Her proof is based off with this twenty year old like twenty two year old issues from spin class. I'm not least. The kid, but if you're friends with Lisa Vander prompt, and you're going to go out on this huge limb to defend Lisa Vander pump to take down to read. But Lisa never said anything to you talk to you about it texted you about it nothing. So and also what's come out? Is that Hannah the girl who raised this dog and trae dog is married or engaged too much, if they're married or engaged to Teddy's, brother? So that's how she knew she knows someone right at the center who raises actual dog. So when this happened you don't think Hannah's going to be like oh the dog. I raised just got taken kill Salter by your fucking enemy. You know? So give me a break. Teddy and teddy you're trying a little too hard here. Okay. I don't know something is not adding up, and I just feel like this is the fight. I can't believe that. This is the fight that you were texting with some kid and thought that Lisa Vander pump wanted you to say so you did it. But then you felt like she was going to blame you for the fuck do some balls. You're like forty. Yeah. I also think that it get Lisa wants to take down to reach. She actually. Do it herself done as you would have done it shape. Read she would've that dog at the shelter until the first day of filming and then have the shelter. Call us. And I'll be do read had the dog counts. Yeah. To get her on the phone to read this togas that kills out. That's an easy target. I guarantee Lisa would have just spent the entire season microaggressions and everything she doesn't need to do a whole elaborate thing, you know. She would have stupid. Yeah. So either way so so at least now still talking with John blizzard. And she's saying, you know, the other night. I I remember that Saturday night. So well, John Sassan can had an argument. Oh, yelling and screaming. And I said stop stop not care. I cannot for what thou. Yes. I don't care. You can I don't get donor Trump himself. I don't give a shit on. I two set knitting Lucy news too. The way that it was twisted. Is that John Sesa told you that? I don't care who you told. And he goes, yeah. He said you'd said tell whoever and she said, so you chose to tell tatty, but then you implicate me and she pulls out the tax and he's like, okay. Well, I put words in your mouth in that weren't true and all on that on it. Sometimes there are moments. Did you shut the fuck up tweak? But she's very involved with the center because she might not be anymore. She really gave me a hard time pool me leaving my heart. And he's like, and that's what everyone at the center is having such a hard time with this because it's all being flipped onto you. I'm like, yeah. Like, everyone is always so sad when their boss gets the deal shit. Like so mad. I'm so sad. My boss shit. Oh, miss account of community. It's not just about went. What when you eat? You know, what you eat? It's about being accountable in life own your PU you do good it. I'm going to have to point out one thing in this Eric teddy conversation now that teddy is changing your story and coming clear, air Kaz. But in mid in the chapel tell me that's a waste of space. She's like I have said headed that. She's not as innocent, and she portrays, and I think that have been proven ride, and we see the cliffs of Erica telling her that the reunion Palese missing assent, and then she comes back to her. And she's like it takes a lap to help. Someone take some on man. Ooh, now, Eric. Eric. I hope so because it's just so lopsided. You know? So now, we go over back to DC and their their family is moving Sophia into her dorm, you know, George Washington, and really I think it's great. Gorgeous window a window. And you know, I can really sell this on the agency right now what you're doing for sale right now. Actually, I'm going to buy it for a certain price. And then I'm going to sell it again for a higher price. It's not fraud. You know, it's just something we do. So he has like the bathroom lighting is really scary. I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, you should be lucky that you have a bathroom in your dorm room. Okay. Like, probably like an extra hundred thousand dollars a year is of course, Kyle. She can't she can't help kiling her daughter's like, well, you have your mirror that you had to have don't worry about the lightning. Girls. Like, okay now cleaning, you know. I'm going to have to teach you how to scrub a toilet. And she's like, what do you have to clean the toilet of flushes at self like a? Okay. So then Renna is getting her makeup done with her going live famously the makeup artist for what's what's her face Rachel's? Oh, he's like he's another. He's funny. He's he's what you know. I don't know. I just found him to be just such a classic like hanger on both on rituals. Oh, and here's just I don't know knows Greg and you don't have this try the hose and he's running with the hose like in both of his arms. So he's doing a home and garden cover for some magazine. Yeah. And she's so funny 'cause I know criminal. John good actress. And he's like is this like fun are not have you actually ever guarded. Because like it's good to laugh at yourself and not take anything seriously. She's like, I'm like some people who take themselves way to banter series. God. Are you have says get over it touched? You give me a break. This is not even about you. So as like. I feel sorry for what you take yourself too. Seriously. I feel like it hits you. So much. See like. I don't know what else can say I was like an old rattlesnake, but that doesn't make sense rattlesnake seriously. Ages. You just saying which I'm so sick of just saying, okay? I can't I'm trying to break. My mother saying just saying because I'm going to kill her. If she says just saying one more time just saying so she goes look at fresh is this face. So then photo shoot. One of the the photographer gays, I left after dress. Yeah. Lifted up. He's like I see who cheat and he's like cab. It's going to see some snaps their. So then Lisa Renna gives us a little monologue about how much she's worked in your life thirty years, the long time, maybe some things were lives. Dancing with the stars MC dancing with the stars like three weeks. See has hustle Bill. I mean, like, you know, not a lot of. I just I saw dancing ours. I went to one tape ends the stars back in two thousand and five and that was her season. And I saw her dance on dancing up a storm there just like the dancing with the stars is listed before Broadway. Broadway. Okay. You can't say dancing with the stars. Then depends them Broadway. Then QBC like what the list maybe that was the chronology of her career. I don't know. It is funny though, dancing Chicago. It's just like the weirdest Lincoln profile ever. No way. You know QVC? So now, we go back to Kyle in DC and Mariscos curling her like, pulling your hair and stuff meta many talents. I'm going to sell this curling iron right up to this. And. The agency's go onto hair also. So anyway on the phone for you. So so teddy calls up and today, of course, gossiping about everything she just said to Erica. You know? And she's yeah. Talking to Iraq. And Erica said we all believe you. I'm like teddy. You're talking about how you were like caught up in all the gossip with John blizzard as if it was like a moment of like like poor character. Whatever you're doing same thing. You're still just gossiping to Kyle. Yeah. And supposedly Erica told her the thing to remember is that Lisa used you. And I'm like, okay. And yeah, as if you're not being used. Like, you're so you're so weak that she didn't even have to call you. I don't believe it. Okay. Now. Here's another piece of gossip that came out this week. I'm so bored. With the story line can't I'm not bored with it. I know, but I don't care I'm still board with. So here's another piece of gossip. And when they were at that dinner, the Bahamas when Lisa Vander pump left early. That's why he was in the Bahamas because she was supposed to be brought on camera to confront Lisa about stealing. Her restaurant. Is that if you read that? Some blogs seems farfetched really need just happens to be in the Bahamas at the same place at the same time as the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Teddy says to steady as saying that like, oh, yeah. Well, erica's Vanderbilt is like using me to get back at to re. And Kyle's response is will you have to think about it. Like, what's her next move? And I'm just like fuck you. Because if you're if that she's like best friends with Lisa Vander pomp, like she's saying, oh, my oldest French so close at a like who does that to their friend in the sense of like, if if let's say like as like you or like another like really close friend of mine, someone's accusing it something of doing something, I would say, you know, like, I don't think like, I know her. I don't think she's trying to do that. Or it's not that big of a deal or it's not that deep like they're wasted a fuse it like ways to support your friend. She's not going to defuse a fire that she's starting. It's like, yeah. Because you because the point is that she clearly. Wants to take out Lisa Vander pump. But she's still want that she's the one who wants to be like, oh, but she's my friend. But she's like by her saying you have to think about what's her next move. She is continuing to stoke the flames. She's continuing to make teddy field paranoid and feel like she's part of a master plan instead of just like being like, no teddy. Listen to worry about it. I think if if Lisa wants to take down to re she will do she could do it like she doesn't need you to do. You know, like, yeah. I don't think it was not a nice. It was that is why Kyle is and always has been though worst. Doc. Well, I just think it's just server can can everyone hear the vacuum cleaners outside or where stone our hotel room as we mentioned that they're I think they're fighting back with vacuum right outside. And in fact, by the way, tile, call even says right now, Lisa's one of my oldest friends and teddy is one of my closest friends. I have to pick a side. I'm like. A you don't have to pick a side you the one who created the sides and be like, where's the loyalties of your friend of like nine years? Yeah. Just kyle. She's a Kyle. Yeah. Cows worst. So then Erica, I mean teddy you knows terrified of the monster. That's Vander pumps few looking over much older. His the hold. Henny. No one's fucking chasing teddy. No, one cares about you stupid. It's not like the t five thousand whatever's chasing after turned into a pickup truck and down the street right behind me possibly printing. Up proof that I'm a fucking liar. Yeah. Don't like how about just don't gossip as much. I mean, or if you're gonna gossip just like be cool with it. Or if you're gonna come for a boss, you better have something. This is another season of bullshit. You're gonna take fan or do it in a good way. I'm sure Vander pump is guilty of tons of shady shit. We're not seeing any of get on something real people. Yeah. Yeah. Where she's laundering her money? Why Ford that estate find out he's friends with PK in the first? Yeah, that's a real do that teddy. Then then we'll figure out why there's cute adorable little tweak hosts at at pomp that suddenly disappear after one night of work. Never. What foreign country they being sold to in locked in cages in Yemen. There's gotta be some real shift to get her on people. You're wasting my time. Yeah. Find out what why do the swans likes wasn't like anyone? But they like her. That's weird about that. Find the baby factory where she stealing toddlers steel stem cells injected tour neck. Yeah, why don't you? Why don't you find out? Why Pandora doesn't talk anymore? And how about that? What went up find out? Why Vander pump tried to stuff Pandora into a radio station? The first daughter to robot like Capra, and we're we're is Cedric anyway, find that out. Yeah. Find out. We're Cedric is. Yeah. Or didn't you have a maid before Roseo her? So so now teddy is with the read and Erica horse place like the question center or something and to horses Terrence and trigger which made me laugh. I don't know. Why just feels like just like words that I would confuse to read tearing? It's trigger. I don't know. So so now teddy is like, she's like, you know, my friendship with arrogant Rita shifted and natural friends. And you know, what I'm thinking if like this is classic. Eric has a cool girl. Okay. She's just like the cool girl. And I think that basically people both to read and teddy pushback against Erica. I, but I think they've been seduced by our quilt girl nece, and that's they decide they want like Vanderbilt's, not the cool, girl and Erica, cool girl. Look, the LA Raila probably dead. Malia may. You may. Duri thick. I think my whole got in a couple of toots. Listen. I've been on host is all across America and the world Israel Disneyland. Encina infamy this Munda? Up to read I love horses so much that we actually put four horses into our car. And that's what they say are call has horsepower because we actually have horses in there. God. So they end up going to lunch after that. But in the meantime, Kyle's still a college of their kids. He's in like an alternate universe. Where time goes by. So slowly like all this stuff is happening Beverly Hills. And then we cut back to calm radio. And they're like still on the same like five minutes later in DC. You're like, oh, they're so boring this family, it's like you want to go to lunch. Okay. Let's go to lend you wanna go to dinner. Okay. Good at dinner. What I liked about this. And now, they're at dinner and what I liked about. This is I feel like we saw some previously unspoken tension between Morocco and Farah has Farah him in. And she's like, yeah. I've got a leave tomorrow out of flight at nine AM tomorrow. And I got I gotta get there early. Check my bag. I'm like you came in two days and have a bag of check. And she goes. Yup. Like, don't push me. Meri's dump push me. It's gotta be at nine to give a give some evidence to a lawyer that suing you right now for fraud. How about that dad? They wanna really guilt me about cases. Yeah. It's like what you what you can rent a Yod in the south of France that you can't pay the twenty five dollars for my fucking suitcase, quote, unquote, dad. He's like, Yup. Yup. That's right daughter. So less behind every cowboy oh lunch. They go to some country place. And it says behind every cowboy is a woman with a good job in town. It is a hilarious sign. Yeah. And well spoken. Yes. They're getting out their horses and stuff and thank you Terrence. And that was the last we ever saw Terrence tweet sent them off to the jury goodbye. Terrence Hello glue. Up PK's ripped off news. Barron's little Terrence on it. We get into a lovely family. Guys, who I think is is. I think one of her parents is Hispanic right now, they're both Israeli I think. Oh, yeah. Okay. So then it's really funny she website Hispanic accent, which he's ordering. She's like. Kiss the walk multiple for call. They say, okay us glass. Yes. I think I'm to go with a mission. Would you mind? You could you could I have a vegetarian buddy throw. Oh. She has like the Spanish version, you know, pass the growing up there with news. Newscaster heated that she. Hello and welcome. I'm Marie L after or whatever. She would only use an accent on certain things cracks me up sin-. They're talking Teddy's like men have triggers. Like, I know exactly how to piss off Edwin. I'll have to say. Hi, I'm teddy. Triggers. Ted once triggered I don't think you should wear a tank top again today, he gets so mad. Yes, they talk about their husbands and aboard. And then well at and of course, teddy was she's like always says I trained horses for living that I can like I dunno. I actually got lost in. Trying to win a drain awards. Erica's Tom this want someone south and slow tweet. And if I can do that, I'm goaling guess what? I'm not gonna do any of that. I don't gotta pre-nup that'll give a full merica. He buried with a white dress. And denny's. On the not job at L spearmint rhino there. Strategy rupaul Mata. Uh-huh. Yeah. They're talking about like Doritos art, saying how PK's always, you know, her job does have to go out to parties and stuff, and she just wants to stay home with the kids. But she says that he'll be like, well, I wanna be on with the kids to and teddy is like just home. Hey, you know, what you're like superman? You got this. You don't need me erica's like, yeah. I always say you're better at this than I am anyway. And then they're all like. We just appreciate it ourselves for a man in. Yeah. Congrats. So then Denise and Aaron go on God. You ever wonder what it'd be like to watch Richard go on a date with a piece of driftwood? He really is less his heart. But it still funny because he's like, yeah. I'd like a double custom migos rep Asada up make that trip onto nieces like. Humped us have a single like. For women that family, exactly sure has the tight doesn't shave so cheers to being with Nicolette Sheridan. They toast to that. And you know, Denise are talking about all the baggage that she brought the relationship. She's like, yeah. Disaster. You know, I married Charlie Sheen's, I've got teenagers ios pretty the story. Just has she brushes everything under the rug should hang I meant Charlie on a movie was a door Buhlmann things get sideways when I got pregnant with Lola and it got dark and toxic. And after one real bad night packed up and file the next day. It was like I need so much filled in. Yeah. Not fair. That's not fair. Denise. So Aaron has something really important to say because they're trying to figure out when they're gonna get married. He's like like we have to get married in ten days now on September eighth which is like why he's like. Numerology? I mean, if you add it all up, it's vanity a like. Why it's just number eight. What are you gonna have a Toy Story wedding to like how many many meetings? It's also like the the theme of revenge. He's like his September ninth month. Eight plus nine seventeen and one plus seven is eight. Yeah. Don't give a shit about this stuff know just like pick Davis, fines, go fucking bathroom. No. She's like so eight like a good luck numbers. Something like, I'm still not tracking this. He's like, what do you think Finnity Baid Infinity? So there are these guys exist in LA, and they're so ridiculous. And if you ever get trapped in conversation with one of them, you're like what is my life right now. How am I hearing this? It's like if numerology really worked, you wouldn't need plugs. You know, what I mean like, you could find a way to grow your hair? I don't know if magic work that think we'd all be thin with hair. I mean, couldn't they theoretically also get married on October eighth or November seven don't even try and make me okay, December. I'm just saying there's a lot of options. So nieces Sinisa saying she, you know, she wants to do something spontaneous. That's what I love about you, baby. Also, you're rich and she's like. She's like listen. I don't base my numbers off. I don't base my decisions off members based off of dick even if that dig is attached with big oil idiot. He's got giant packs and huge arms. And that's all I need right now at this point in my life. I don't give a fuck about the number eight accepted. He's got it. All right sister. You go girl. I don't care about the number eight except that. That's what he did to me. I am. I right. Ladies am. I right. Please get a pre NUP. I like you. I know please, please, please. Guess what Kyle's doing the family eating at by people all fame. Fuck this family. I'm so mad at this family there at the Willard hotel, which has been the home of several real house Potomac of scenes, so so anyway, so they're all they're in their sweet and the room service guy comes in and put the food out on like the credential or something beside table, and then just leaves oh always knocking going to serve us. Oh, okay. It's room service you buffoon. So then Kyle gets up and she starts serving everyone like no one even gets up to help her. She's taking all these dishes all these plates, and they're just sitting there like not like, oh, can I help you there? Just sit there all like lumps, and she's just doing everything this bullshit. Yeah. Carl's family bores me. I don't even know any of that. Because they're trying me up in Carl's. Well, because it's like the third scene of Kyle trying not to cry then crying. They make no. Crying, and they're all crying. Board. Okay. So Torri is Jerry calls Kyle. And they're basically guess what they're talking now that tiles back LA now. Now, we're finally don't DC, I guess what they're talking about at least advantaged Docker. So Kyle's like just I think she just wants to clear the air from the Bahamas, which is why we have to go to her house because this is a power move. Eric is not the only one who will make you drive your ass to Pasadena. Lisa lives closer. But she's still like we will have problems on. My swear bitch. Like, you're gonna have to cross a moat to have problems with me. Yeah. Exactly. And you have to fenders. You're you have to keep your can't goes away from my swans. Yes. So to reach like, I spoke with PK and neither one of us want this dog situation to go any further cows like well, maybe that's the goal for today. I'm like fat chance if you're involved. Okay. You know, you're not gonna squash. This this is your dire. Like, this is this is your moment. And you're going for it. Yeah. Even showed up in a pink suit. Yeah. His like who cares? I agree that you can't own a color. But it's Kyle knows. She knew she shows up and the car that Lisa dries in the governor that Lisa wears with with like with like creases on her. But from the swing that she got at least a has. So so Kyle shows up and this, of course, is like Hello. Thank you. For worry. My color to my has dumb pitch. Because you know, that pink makes me happy trying to turn it around. So the Kyle cry and say, well, I'm not gonna be I'm not going to be a friend wing pink anymore. Good Carl's last. Gordon stand to make them. Twenty twenty so Cal for Rosa. And then Lisa's like God. I was wondering if you could tell me a really boring story about what you've been up to lately, she's like, well, I went to DC dropping off. So these horrific God, you have something in common with Torit. You can put anything to sleep. To reach this best part Torri shows up. And she's like, I go is go is. So we can have lunch now. And like, it's four o'clock. Really struggles at the time. Reaches assume that it was lunchtime. Oh, savannah promptly. Now. Let me put it out Manila. Fota Manila old. Business business. I hate what went down to the Bahamas has being accused of something. I knew I didn't do. And when I came back, and showed me something to change my mind. He's showed me that Texas. It's raining postively outside eighty percent. Chance of Hayes. I'm sorry. I don't really know his name on on account of me. Not even really know is four hundred employees. I mean, granted three hundred ninety six go. So you don't actually see them. But they still do. Good name was Leslie something Leslie snowstorm, Tom blizzard. Yes, I barely bell. I believe the name was oh, JoAnne Frappuccino. No. It's John lizard missed a heat Mayes lurk. No. So she's like here. The paper paper paper paper business business. She says have the dog that and I could say it looks like to read stalled. Well, now ten is already caught wind that this is going to happen. She's wind rented out these texts already changed her story. So we know that he knows this is coming. So she's that's why she's called everyone in the cast already. Gone over her story. So now, no one's surprised by this already know knows. And Kyle says like so when Lisa's shows the text that says that says like what time you wrote? The dog there, and I can say something cost us. Well, I mean, I could see what you're saying. But I think it's unfair to put that on her when she wasn't alone in this situation. So I'm like, oh, so it's okay to give teddy the benefit of the doubt in a situation to see like the the difference like cadences or nuances I should say of of the situation. But at least it's like, oh, she's just manipulating. Saying that Teddy's admitting it so Lisa admitted it it wouldn't be a problem. It's just at least it's not admitting it again that part, but you still don't have any well, then teddy. And then Koss, you know, of course, have seniors all teddy show me on her phone. But you know, what though here's the thing. Teddy didn't initiate, I'm like oh. So now, the issues that teddy didn't initiate that John blizzard, which I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I just think it's so funny that they're all standing up for teddy by saying she's so weak that she was told to told to do something by twenty two year old and she did. So then go mine. So then I mean, not to read sort of does trip up of Andhra pumped because then she calls like ocal trips panta pump. She's like sushi, I says it to read like how did you know that teddy new, and then it's like, well these are called me. And then 'cause like Lisa how did you know that teddy knew about this? And this is like I didn't know that teddy new just I guess, I guess I assumed she knew I was like that's not a strong moment. Aw, we saw we saw her say we are after that thing. She went to read and said, you have to know they were talking about this at the foundation and heading knows this information. But how does she I think what they're saying? Is if she doesn't know John blizzard, very, well, like how would you know that jump gossiping teddy because teddy is friends with Anna and John blizzard who's friends with John Sesa. They all work there. So why teddy now? Yeah. Fucking knows all gossiping. They would all know every little thing. Yeah. I think it was and Vander took. She said don't show the dog on camera. They did. Anyway, this was before they even said anything about the dog or where it was from teddy said that dog looks or Johnson said doesn't this dog look familiar, and she said don't say anything. She shutting it down ten was the one he said something. So even if you're saying, she manipulated you right in that moment, she said don't say anything and you did anyway. So it just doesn't hold fucking water. And if anything it was. Actually, if you go back to that scene. You know, who is actually trying to try to make something happen. I happen was Kyle. I was like why are we talking about the dog dog this dog? There's something weird about this dog. I just feel weird. They're talking about to reach dog. She was one who was making into thing. And when it actually like not a thing at all. Yeah. So, but the other make things at least I still had a conversation. Brought it up again at the party. So the everybody would know put it on Broadway right up. I don't want to talk about this. I don't wanna talk about this and cows like, well, here's what happened with the dog. So what the fuck? Yeah. So anyway, there's there's talking about how you know, Ted. He's saying that John blizzard had an order and leases like why are you believing? Why are you believing? What I'm holding the text messages? I'm holding the conversation. Like, why are you believing? What she's saying over what you're looking at the litter blizzard dessert, treat was given an older, and she's like, so you believe I told John sesa- sesame toll John blizzard. They're both lying, and this is like trying to connect the dots of things, and she's like, but Teddy's and she led me to believe that they had to they wanted to go. Then they brought the dog ads. So very least you can admit that the story that Ted. He is giving you his different than the story. That is in these texts. Like, Bing, Bing, Bing, congratulations stories of law. Also, by the way, you know, what I hate. I hate that selective thing of like well that person's here to defend themselves because to reach like, Ted. He's not here to defend herself. Well, you know, it doesn't seem to stop you like dragging Lisa Vander pump behind her back not even for this situation. But like last season, you know, to I I don't know the hypocrisy. It really bothers me. And as as you always say, we took the Hippocratic oath, we're too. We get it. But I just I I don't like it. Yeah. I'm just kind of sick of it. And then to read. Depend oppose though, they won. But he's not as innocent as he claims to be and then she's pretending to cry. She's like. She's like. Ooh. Can we just move on? Okay. I like also every time Lisa talk. She holds up text messages like really big. Hold it up. She's like she's but she's putting them down across the table. So it was she always has like reach across one moment. Yes. Again, I've had this made into a ternan would've they call those opposing those red carpet Ternate sees what do they look sees? No another. Stephon, repeat tuned. Text messages into a step and repeat would you like to post reason front of these large, Texas like the Meemaw font? So basically, this is like somebody's guilty by omission. Take the shit at the end of it. A little pink Ed comes out, and that brings us to the end of real housewives. You're so. You're so you're so can you tell your brain dead from this? That brings us to the end of Banda pump rule. Oh my goodness. Wow. While the controversy rages on thank you all for listening. We are going to be in Cincinnati the Saturday. So there's still tickets available for that summer house show, your show, be fun. We'll be drinking Rosa at least I should say. I don't wanna play maybe Rosaiah and honor of it's happy hour. So watch crap is calm for that. And also that amazing merge. Ronnie if the audience in DC with those Lou leggings, hey, everyone. Thanks for listening by.

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Photographing the comet Neowise and more: Bob Vanderbei

Techstination

01:59 min | 11 months ago

Photographing the comet Neowise and more: Bob Vanderbei

"Your destination for gadgets, ungeared I'm Fred fishkill. The Comet Neil wise has been putting on a show in the night sky this month, and it's easy to come away with some fun photos, no telescope necessary, Princeton, university professor and astro photographer Bob Vander Bay says what you need is a camera and a tripod tripod to be nice and sturdy and stable, and then you take a ten second exposure. I took several. Hundred I think over the course of twenty minutes. To draw which one's the best. That's one of the tricks to the trade. You can check out a video version of our interview complete with some of Bob's spectacular images on our website and head to Vander Bay dot. Princeton dot edu slash images for more. By the way is co author of the national, geographic book sizing up the universe. At text nation dot. com I'm Fred Friskin now this how many companies out there have continued to innovate when it comes to building a better radio? I'm red fish skin host of TEX. Nation and I'm here to tell you about the new CC sky wave. SP radio from the wonderful people at sea crane. Baba his crew really love radio and it shows in this new compact model that is packed with features beyond great am FM reception. Unsound you can tune into shortwave signals from around the world listen to Ham Radio, operators, aviation and more. It's the radio you'll turn to every day and in emergencies it will run for nearly three days on just to double A. Batteries hair, the sleep timer with the new soft speaker three and you've got the perfect radio for your nightstand. Of course it can wake you up to click on C.. Crane at texting dot and put in the code text nation for free flashlight with your order. They Love Radio and you'll love secretly.

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Friday 10/30/20 - The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway

Chicago Dog Walk

27:48 min | 8 months ago

Friday 10/30/20 - The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway

"Alabama today is Friday October thirtieth with the dog walk presented by Barstool sports got another true crime Friday. But before I introduce my gas before we really get into it I wanNA talk about Roman obviously most guys have tried different ways to last longer in bed but thinking about baseball doesn't always work. You know sitting there thinking about your coin collection but like Oh do I need this guy do I knew that Wanna Stop doing that. You don't need to do that anymore because Roman, the man's online health company is changing the game with Roman swipes and it's the secret to lasting longer during sex Romans five star clinically proven away to last longer in bed, they're effective easy to use and fast acting, but they don't require prescription. Roman can ship swipes you in discreet unmarked packing and he swipe packet a small enough to hide your wallet for wherever you need it. They're super easy to use just take the swipe out of the packet, swipe it on, let it dry and you're good to go. That's it. Get your hands on these all you. GotTa. Do is go to get Roman dot com slash dog walk in a year I bought the swipes for just five dollars when you choose a monthly plan that's get. Roman. Dot Com says dog walk go do her folks. You've got nothing to lose Romans of best enhance your sex game. All right. So my guest is Ellie she's doing some true crime Friday with us today so much medium extended to be here with you guys wants today a very high profile case here for true confrontation we're talking some Natalie Holloway. Yes. Yeah. Very well known case is pretty popular is about fifteen years old Nelson actually hasn't been solved but. If. You're good. So we can jump right in. Yeah. That's Great I. Guess There's a little bit far. You just had like a a strong interest in this kind of stuff as well like what are you are you kind of involved with everything you listen to all the podcasts how do you? Go about your your true crime, I guess. I'm not really interested in after I started working this job I've always been interested in kind of criminal justice ruled today studied in college But as far as true crime itself after studying justice kind of taking interest in it I- outside of my work life like to. Research Cases Ki- kind of up to date with. Current cases listen to podcasts stuff like that, and it's it's interesting to listen to different I cast time the same story. In see where they get their information from and whatnot? Yeah. The perspectives because it's so interesting now that it's such a big genre, it's still weird for me to say like entertainment because it's like you know it's kind of like a fine line, but it turned into this thing wherever everyone listened to the podcast and everything. So it's it's you know there's message boards there's people getting information from facebook. So you're right like people here shit from everywhere. So it's kind of interesting. Yeah. It's definitely interesting. Especially those boards facebook reddit stuff like that getting. Everyone's two cents, two cents on it or people. Kinda give their stories if they really anyway involved or know someone that was involved in. You get a lot of different. Doesn't ask it. I mean, they don't even have to be involved. I drove by that town once and I saw the you know what I mean. They don't even care L. proclaimed involves. Yes exactly. Exactly. Sorry we can kick it off here with some Natalie Holloway. The floor is yours alley. Perfect. So now the hallway was in eighteen year old when she disappeared, she was graduating high school in. Alabama. And in May, this isn't two thousand and five and may two is just getting ready to graduate in her class trip took a trip down to Aruba. And that was unfortunately the last thing she was seen in where she disappeared from so. Natalie was described by her friends as very much a rule follower someone who was very careful very smart, good steadier. Good students choose a dancer a said she was very outgoing very silly but I'll come over all. She was one of those no bs of girls was very aware of herself. which I think is just kind of interesting for. This case as a whole which we'll get into. So on the night of her stance that it was the evening between may twenty nine and may thirtieth of two thousand five. Natalie and her classmates they were out and about at the local joints I'm enjoying their time. This was their last night actually rebut. So at one point in the night. I run kind of broke off some people went back to hotels and people went in their own ways. Directions and Natalie was seen on camera actually had a casino that was adjacent to the hotel she was staying at and she was at a blackjack table. Now, at the same table on a surveillance camera, there was a young man by the name of who is who's touched, and he was sitting at the same table. They were later seen together leaving a bar close to the casino called Harlison. Charlie's. I'm around one thirty. Am It was seen from surveillance footage that she was getting into the backseat of a Gray Honda? And, I, say backseat because there were two other individuals in a frenzy which are joined Anderson's friends April or brothers Deepak Calvo. So they were all seen getting into the Greyhound skender. Unfortunately, that was less time to now hallway was ever seen. Do, you know like where they were going at this time was anything on that. No said that his never the other thing that came in my research with that the whole car situation was the gray Honda win later on Beth Holloway Natalie Smile. Win To. Vander sloops home to Kinda confronts him in and discuss what happens in. That same gray Honda was sitting in his driveway so. It's clear to me that that they were connected either If it was the couple brothers or if it was the car in south, they're connected to the car that day Liangelo wasn't like. A taxi new verse anything like that I don't Louis time back then but. So essentially it wasn't. It wasn't known where they went the rest of their whereabouts that night. Is Pretty much of in the air because every time that mostly joined the understood he is kind of our are suspect in this case on the couple brothers were released before Anderson was when they were taken into custody by the. gave a bunch of different stories throughout the stray. He essentially every time he was questioned about it, Dan gave a news story on in they don't know where they're going. That is definitely a question that comes up as to. Where they were going why? They were leading the area why all for them were leading the area what were they all going to do? And we'll get that when we talk about the stories that he tells. Mr Anderson tells later on, but no one really knows. As far as that other than that was the last people to see her. Or the footage was the last thing she was seen. For sure I mean you're if you're eighteen on a class trip and then you're on surveillance all my casino just having a fun time. What she was there to do with their classmates and you go missing, you're going to look at the people who were the last of course. So. And that was, you know I'm I'm sure that was kind of a factor into it was a young girl there. Especially eighteen those kids at the time you know drinking obviously wasn't illegal or was illegal in the US wasn't in there are drinking age in these in these. Countries are season in the Caribbean and stuff. So. You, know it's never. Directly correlated that any substance for involved but they were kind of at the local joins Carlos and Charlie's bar there at the casino those kinds of things so. It's definitely kinda comes into play of what they were doing, what they were going to do. For, so that's the last time she's seen now do people like instantly freak out like what do they? Not realize until they went to leave what happens next yes. So the next morning that was. Around one thirty am nights. The twenty ninth in the morning of the thirtieth so that morning net thirty s everyone was supposed to meet in the lobby so that they could go catch their flights, go back home. No Sir last night there. I'm Natalie obviously didn't show up. At first everyone was kind like all right. You know she's running late you May. She's hungover she in something like that. But then they went in checked her hotel room and her things were all still there nothing nothing was had been touched singers it was clear that she had not. Come back or even attempted to pack her things or anything like that. So it's kind of like she just walked away. I'm going to think at that point it was. Starting to become a worry that okay she has even been here she hasn't even tried to. Attempt. To make it to the lobby to come back home. So what what's going on why? Why would this be happening I'm they checked the hotel surveillance and their after that surveillance camera of her leading Carlos to Charlie's there was no surveillance camera footage of her returning to the hotel. So. We know when she left the hotel that night she did not come back in other things are still there. So she did not. Come back at all and that was that was when it became clear that okay. We've got something's going on and they contacted her parents Beth. Holloway is her mom in approximately twenty hours later. Flew down to Aruba start looking for our daughter ends. The police, the Aruban authorities met her when she got in there in May took her actually to join the understood Tom Insulin Linda Gray Honda was seen in the driveway in she confronted. Joran Vander Salute And he gave her a story I. This is the first of his many stories that he gives. So his first story. Wise. They were messing around on the beach together. He took her back to her tell her hotel draft Ross now is the end of it. Now it's so strange and I guess the difference you know not being in America America's like they would bring the mom right to his house. Right right. I got that as. 'cause I just would never. Hear if you know something was going on, you take me to this person who I did. It's No Way? No. Yeah. Like it's such a big thing where you know. The, people you don't. You never see the let alone come and counter like where you could be face to face with a you know someone who recusing that's just that's just a wild image. Think of that her mom getting off a flight and going right to meet up with Jordan. Vendors slit right and I could see an way of like signing out into grape lying of her friends of who she was with an and her maybe going. On, her own to his house out of her own decision but she is accompanied by the authorities there. That's I think is kind of interesting part that they were willing to seek her there to talk to her talk to him. Yeah, for sure and you have an interesting note here, like you said, he says, they went to the beast full round by wasn't the hotel was by the beach. Yes. If you look at a picture of the until she stayed at I was in the easy news are calling him sent you the hotel is right there on the beach so. My question. Okay. They were leaving Cranston Charlie's I don't know how far that bar was from the hotel but keep in mind we are on in the Caribbean it can't be all that if they were getting in the car were they going one they driving to the beach? And if so, why did they drive to hotel to go that each that was right at the hotel if you had plans to Rof anyways you even if they were going around on a beach, why didn't you say? All right let's go back to Mattel. We can go to the beach there and then you can go back to your towel or or even I can come back to your hotel with you use go right back. So tell that's Where did you go and you could be far away? Why? I guess you know let's let's just completely not that we should. But if you did give him the benefit the doubt right maybe he really is well versed with Aruba maybe besides that place he wants to take her to like a romantic beach. Maybe there's like something with a better site I don't know. Yeah that's actually that's definitely good site that I did not. I didn't I didn't think about see that point. At this point in history was they messed around on the beach but he didn't stay where the cowboy brothers went. So, what were all for them on the beach were all three of the boys involved was just under Slough? They didn't really ray around online kind of change their story a little bit but that's that's definitely a good point where they could have been going to. You know more secluded beach Something kind of year like you said, a romantic status link at this point but who knows? You're right though they leave them in the car with like hey, we'll be right back. We've got to do that I. Don't know you're right. That's. That's pretty interesting but then I, don't know. So. Obviously. The story of him, her back off at the hotel turn out to be very quickly because there's no footage of her returning to the hotel So we know we know that was lie right off the Bat. So why is the first stories telling wise that ally? In why does he have a reason to lie essentially? So, about a week later. Vander sloot in the couple brothers were all taken into custody by every minute thirty on the disappearance or hassle disappearance of Natalie Hallway, and that's when they came up with a little bit of a twist on that story on where the chemical brothers said that they dropped the flute and Holloway off at the beach and and that was the end of it for the cow brothers is it that's all we were involved. We don't know what happened after that and. Then Vander sloot said he left Natalie Sleeping, alone beach. And what are you? What do you make of that? Is Anything that kind of your question there so My first question is, why does she do story? Why did you say you took her back to the hotel and now you're saying you after on the beach what what reason do you have to come up with two different stories? Right I mean unless I can understand your playing devil's advocate for a minute. Easy kid he's nervous that he's somewhat involved in the disappearance of a girl who's not even from there So I can see why he would y Oh, I dropped her off and then you change kind of distanced himself from his involvement with her But still it doesn't make sense to me. So if that's true. If we're going with that theory, a couple brothers dropped him off several brother leave. It's just. Joined under Suit Hall van the Beach. Number taken with you know they messed around and then. My question is if you and someone are alone on a beach, especially for Natalie in an area where she is not familiar with. You guys even if you're fooling around, you know just laying in Best more Patriot thing Mr thing but it's weird to me. They were decide to sleep on the beach just like out in the open in in Nothing just like all sleep on the beach and. When it's you, one of the person in that person decides to leave. It's very. Just odd to me that she wouldn't wake up. She would stay there alone on the beach ourselves and just kinda watch him walk away instead of being like, okay I'm GonNa. Leave to. Snatches just really doesn't add up to me. And obviously, we don't really know the extent of. The substances she was on, right so In the first part. Okay. You're hopping into a car I mean. You gotta be pretty. either. Against Her will I would say pretty incapacitated to hop a car like away like how am I going to get back? Right or just be like I'm just like like I'm just going to pass out here. You know exactly there's I definitely. Think. If that was Casey, left her on the beach I would be shocked if she was not neagh rated whatsoever. into point. Though. Why wouldn't he say she was passed out I went. That he didn't bring. Aspect. In split of owes you really drug I didn't want to deal with so I laughed. In sleeping on the beach so I don't know. You know maybe there. May Be did he give her something and you didn't want to admit that S- a yeah. For her to get into car with three men she doesn know or just met in a strange area and that's I kinda made the point of beginning of all her friends described very careful person not sticking on the wind person take risks. So that does definitely spikes the questions of what what else was involved in that night or what were they doing? It's it's hard like you've been to Mexico or something alley like you know. How much would it take for you to be like hey? I'm going to hop in this car leave the resort and go with you know. Three people I don't know it. Would you know? And that's not an object. Put any any blame Natalie hallway known at all. We were all teachers at one point you're in a country where you're at legal drinking age. Founding mostly she she didn't none of these kids really had an experience that whether before their underage in the United States having a good time you know obviously they don't. The therefore is not GonNa be I'm danger everyone wants to give everyone the benefit out ignorance inspectors can happen to them No. Yeah, and that's just me saying I think she definitely. Probably was held against her will to some capacity or you know like she just wasn't the right state of mind which is like you said, she's eighteen no falter on like you you get drunk or whatever. You don't think like some horrible is going to happen to you. So it's not it was out of her control like that. That's what that's what I mean by that. You know. Yeah definitely and I think. I think. So Beth Holloway after that she goes, you know the boys are taken into custody they give him a whole new story they're being held in custody and Beth Holloway then goes back to the vendor suit home and actually sits down with an interview with Jordan's parents Polisena. Anita. In this interview to me was very interesting I. Don't I don't think a lot came out of it with just the aspects around the interview where. Jordan's father was acting pretty suspicious gary nervous sweating to excess wasn't really sharing a lot of information his mother was sitting there. And she says she was sobbing crying she's crying crying crying crying crying Which is interesting to me because. Live you know why was the? Father Acting suspicious. Why was the mom sitting there crying? So I think. In. The sense of I get it again, playing devil's advocate your son is being held in custody for possible disappearance of the young girl I can understand why the mother would be upset or even the dad would be nervous. But at the same time, this was not an interview with A. This is an interview with Natalie's mom and in and out order just I'm a media reporter so It's difference me like if you were if you were held in an interview with the authorities, I can understand why you'd be nervous even media can understand, but it just seems very. Dubious to me that there was so much. Odd Behavior in this interview yeah. No I hear you. What was you know? That he leave out little detail that has been beat himself up about there's a lot of stuff there for survey. Was He involved? Did he know something? To me again, I can see why the mom would be very emotionally I'm obviously that's her son he's been he's being alleged of. Some, maybe some crime that he's of this disappearance girl but also on the flip side of that if you. If you think he's innocent. In, the mother of the missing girl in the media is there to interview you my first thought would be. They would be praising his innocence over and over enough in. This is the story you know Boban seemingly none of that happened there is. There is nothing. In the research, it was just the Momma's crying the Abbas sledding, his acting Mary That's it was just odd in on interviews me as if maybe they knew something or Jordan had had told him something they had helped him in any way I don't know but it was definitely is kind of piqued my interest. In stating that the that's very interesting for sure. So then. Pass Laura to July fourth two, thousand five. The couple brothers were released from custody and there were no charges were brought against him essentially didn't have anything to hold them on we have. A missing girl we have no. Other. Really information other than some a little bit surveillance. At that that doesn't really again show that they were committing a crime. It just shows that they were the last person to be seen with her. They were released they still to this day not charged with anything. But Mr Vander sloot stayed in custody until August and. In. August. He was then released again due to lack of evidence. There is no, we have a missing girl, but we have no body. We have no solid story. No Salad witnesses. I'm really nothing else to go onto our trinity were. Forced to release him. So why do you think there were so quick to kind of you know. Release the CAPPOS aren't didn't they see him at the last time as well. So that's Right right I don. I. It's interesting that AH limelight kind of immediately went to join be under suit and I don't know if that's because. He was seen with her advocacy now, and at the Bar I'm it didn't. It didn't say anything about the cowboys being at the casino or anything previously involved before they got into the car. which also is kind of weird in and of itself where did they come from? Why do they? Both need to pick them up all three of needs to get in a car with with now. It's almost like it was really really really premeditated. Right? That's where I kind of premeditation from me starts to come in is this was planned that you guys were shot in a car with. It to abandon. But. I think they cowboys for a little more. disconnected. From It essentially or have seen as more like accomplices in Mesa thanks just because. The stories that were told her you know surveillance footage they were only seeing her in that car in in nothing further whereas you know vander sloop vendor suit made it a point. To tell all these different stories in two point himself in all these different scenarios with Natalie whereas the Coppola's they gave that one story. That's all we know. He's Yeah and this is where we're going to get here in a second work is really weird because he keeps saying a bunch of random shit that you would never say or you would never even bring the attention yourself at you just kind of distance yourself from it a little bit. So that's weird but I I don't know that's my radar goes up there because I don't know if this was like maybe some type of. Trafficking, thing like was was vander sued the guy who was there? You know I think it's called a coyote right you're supposed to go out and get them and they were the the pickup guys I don't know you know I know right. See is weird that they are involved for sharing in any enemies So, yeah. Like you said A, we get into best for February two dozen six. does interview in New York on the media and gives yet another race around the third version of what happened that night and he said now he says that. These together on the beach together and he left Natalie on the beach at night alive and well, completely unharmed he left home. So. That's different. Why why do an interview? Why did you change your story? Why? Why why come up with another story? Why you're the main suspect why are you continuing to do interviews and put yourself in the media's I? I you know I can see why Beth Holloway his mom would continue to be doing all these interviews. She wants to keep the case alive you want to keep. Attention on the case pressure on authorities to SAPA case but Joran a for me it's like. I get maybe advocating for your innocence you want to. Stand up yourself. Again, he's not really doing is not really going on media saying I'm missing medicine I didn't do it. I had nothing to do with it. He just keeps putting all these little different scenario together. I don't know. That's the only thing I can think of is like if you're so you're. So you know convincing you know deep down, you didn't do it but everybody knows I mean this is different divide between here and maybe Aruba where if you're you know by the advice of any legal counsel, it would be just as a shot up and get away from it forever. Yes. Ain't nothing more about it. Don't ask different stories to it so. And no matter what you feel. Right exactly and why cheese the beach story again why she was. You dropped her off at the hotel than you after sleeping on the beach venue after alive and unharmed went home. You didn't say she's asleep being though. So what she awake was she asleep was she. Okay. She not. Okay. Didn't you know why change that version of it when those seemingly pretty big details? especially. This year those pretty big details. Huge Arts and we're GONNA stop it right there part two coming next Friday about Natalie Holloway with Allie, will be back then see you next Friday for part two.

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VPR Season 8 Breakdown With @ohnobravo Chelsea Part 2

On This Day Entertainment

43:04 min | 1 year ago

VPR Season 8 Breakdown With @ohnobravo Chelsea Part 2

"Ads China places. I go into spaces alone for Baker and you are listening to the on this day entertainment. Podcast this is part two of my interview with Chelsea from Instagram's Bravo account. Thanks again to Chelsea. It's always so much fun talking to you and I hope you enjoy the rest of our conversation here you go and that I think leads to really good point moving forward like next steps for Banda pump rules where we're going. We talked about the two shows. But I'M GONNA take it a step further I mean. Could this Vander Pump Vegas the anymore? Obviously they are literally like I feel like one of those flawed fog. Raw DOTS in In France early like force feed the ducks and make them fat. Like I feel like force-feeding vander pumping and I live in. Vegas would be great for me especially as gossip brighter if I could just go have dinner and see these things happen. Whatever I'm not new SHEENA I don't think I would give a fucking shit about new. She Annette unless it was with regular. Sheena like them to get her. I could get behind but I don't care about her. Yeah I think the only way that I would be down with abandoned With the Vegas spinoff it also incorporated Schinas show in Vegas to she got to be a character in the vegas life and you know friend group. I was like more on board with it until the finale when I just saw how the new she was so thirsty and clearly like knows the show. She was whispering in their ears like OCD. Like she was like to me like an embarrassing fan. Who was like too drunk? Recognize like who she and even with the getting to the. Danika thing like I think that it got blown way out of proportion but I think Danika ultimately was trying to be like. Hey Hey you're ruining their seeing like you need to get out dot but instead like this girl was so wasted and then it blown out of proportion and again Danika showing like she could definitely be a full-time player here. Like she's got that batch at crazy like energy but yeah the banner in Vegas Not really here for the vendor from dogs spinoff. Not here for I would like if anything I would want a Thomson spinoff. Ooh especially with the garden opening up that just gives us more more opportunities. I because she know rents. I'm pretty sure I don't think she owns her. Pretty sure she's the renter. Obviously Vegas is closed right now so there are no shows currently but we haven't had sex talk or wooden the straight guys gates never show is that she no. It's not been here for years so I doubt that that show just like appears I would as a fan I would believe in. This might be the only way it works is if they either sent out both of these people these groups either she not and have her work at Vanderbilt Bagasse and have sheena and lake the lead. And then other people or give James Kennedy a residency that recalculate their heads server. Whatever give her first management opportunity. Whatever the case may be and I think if Vander Pump Vegas is going to happen. I'm going to need one of those people on my show and those are the only that really makes sense to me. Yeah that's a really good call. I think that James Definitely like he's proven he was sober the second half of the season. He was just as entertaining. If not more talking. Heads always made me laugh like he could definitely be that personality that you know. He could like he could. Yeah I think you're exactly right that if they're gonNA do a spinoff it needs to have some sort of routes the original. Because I don't think any viewer is just going to be like okay. Cool let me tune into the brand new show where I don't know anybody like you. At least it's kind of like with summer house like we needed to kind of be tricked into it. At first where we got the dossier in the hot tub. Okay this show could be good things that might be kind of a tricky thing if they don't pull somebody out to Vegas if that's where I mean even with banner pump the original. We got tricked into it. You know she had that sit down with brandy. And all of a sudden we were following the cameras into the kitchen and we were like wait. A separately held thirty more minutes. Oh my gosh exactly and you know what God bless you for sleeping with Brian. Because without that affair we would not have pump rules exactly. Lisa Lisa Vander I really hope she remembers that every now and again like this like the fact that they had this photo shoot and had all these people from Banda pump dogs sir. Tom-tom all these different enterprises that came. Fraum SHEENA sleeping with brandy. Glanville's married husband again justice for Sheena Yet doesn't fishy about it very true. You really have to give it to her. She is the start of all of this. Yeah I definitely think yeah. You're exactly I can't. I'm yeah yes you're right. I have nothing to add to that. Because it's so poignant but yes if she hadn't slept with Eddie Cipriani. We wouldn't be here talking about one of the best shows of the decade. Because they what you will yes this past season you know. It wasn't a season one or three abandoned. But it's still gave us some really funny moments and I think that banned from roles is just one of those shows that we hold to such a high standard that when it doesn't deliver at that like one hundred percent pile. We just like what is this. This is shit but like I still think it was a very good season. Wouldn't stay was very good. Personally I found myself walking out of the room a lot I found myself like grabbing my phone often and going to the bathroom without pausing like things like that but the stories that were willing to was just honestly the reason it didn't work for me mostly comes down to the two new guys. They didn't bring anything. I thought it was ridiculous. Hated how Brett had gone to vander pumps. Housing was like training her. But she's GonNa hot let she's GonNa have one of the guys who works for a restaurant come to our health like from an HR standpoint. That's certainly that is a disaster waiting to happen like that would never happen like so unbelievable. None of it worked for me yet. And that's perfect. Another perfect sample of his storylines were so played out and tired like Tom. Schwartz does being enamored and a crush on Lisa Vander pomp. So much better like Tom. Schwartz say what I what I will about him but like he does that storyline of being like. Oh we will my God. This releases brawl like oh. I love her like he does that. An acute endearing way rented did it in a very creepy way that I it was uncomfortable for me to watch like I wanted to be like step away from the vendor pump. Sir I like after he was at the House after he was at Villarosa I was like if you turn all the lights and got a black lie like. I don't think you guys would like what you saw. This guy is so freaking it creepy to me. He just a bad dude. Yeah I just. I couldn't quite figure him out. I definitely for me. Max was worse than Brett but that was thirstier so in a way he was kind of worth. I don't know I could have done with both of them but I think it's ultimately Jack with of course the true villain of the season and it's not. It's getting to the point for me. Where in the past Jackson? Somebody that like you got. You kinda laughed at and you're Kinda like Oh Jack you're a terrible person but it's getting into like Below deck territory for me like this last season of below deck where. It's not fun to watch anymore and it's really like a little bit frightening of life. What is going on behind closed doors like there's a darkness here that I don't really want to catch on like there's something not right with this man and he is just like his whole online presence his whole like it's just hock sick. Have you been blocked by Jack's on any social media platforms you know? I have not yet which is shocking. I have a Hashtag Spiritually blocked by Jackson because spiritually. I am blocked by him already because I do not fuck with him but no I have yet which I'm surprised that it's gotTa happen any minute now Have you got like? I literally got blocked by him on twitter and I got blocked by him in person to because when he went to the Vendor Pub Cocktail Garden Party. I asked him about his pre memos beer cheese disease endeavor. He had that cocktail mixer. Lie that he just recently released with leads us called just at X. Terrible name terrible terrible terrible name and asked him about it. Because I've written an article about it for taste. Ellios Ajax totally hook line and sinker. At the beginning I was like first of all. Sorry About Your Dad. He was like okay. Totally engaged with talking to me so I had a one. I'm over at that point. I got some really good conversation with him about his drink. Line about why created it and then I had a little bit and I ask like but what about the one called the cheater. How does Britney seal about having the worst thing that ever happened to her wide displayed on a bottle for everyone to see and he literally just walked away from me and I was like God? I think I just got human blocked by Jack. Batons like a perfectly acceptable question to ask. Because that's one of his like that's like Law One of her lip. Callers is mistress or something you're like and but she liked jokes about it and she's open about it because that's part of her product like if you're going to put that out there then behind it but that's the thing is that Jackson stand behind anything he does. I loved the scene of him and Arianna because it was just like schoolteacher. Like just like reprimanding a child of like no. No no no. You're still in time out. You're not getting out of out until you accept what you've gone. Oh you're not gonNA step what you've found cookies for you for dessert you know and I was really really happy with the way that Katie and Arianna approached Jacks. While I guess I guess Katie had approached Britney about it but both of them said that all of these happenings happened because of Jackson's behavior lake. It wasn't like this isn't because tump Schwartz invited people to the house. This isn't because of anything other than Jackson's terrible ridiculous childlike infantile behavior and. I think that the group is definitely having a turning point because I think for so many reasons it was like. Oh that's just Jackson. Oh he has a good heart. But that's Jackson definitely again. It goes back to setting boundaries. People are and finally like you know what No. I'm not going. Let you have your bad week that you have every year where you're just a terrible person. That's not fair to us and so it was just nice to watch everybody kind of coming around so that Jackson he really is a terrible curse. Oh it's so bad and I was so happy that Schwartz even said explicitly. This is the boundary from here on Ulrich. This doesn't happen anymore for somebody with a small mind jazz. You need to be explicit with like. It's literally talking to a child. It's lake training a dog like you. It's really your training. This person to undo their instinct. But it's like you're not going to be successful in life like you're not gonNA keep your wife whatever job you're going to try to have like you will not be able to hold a job with the the way you're acting. Yeah I think and I thought it was so funny ironic and of course he didn't even recognize it but he spent all seasons saying that you know Arianna depression was like. She's playing the depression card. And and a side note. I do not like how they handled the discussion on vanished from it was like basically. I was expecting in this last season or last episode. She was like going into a back room and she's like oh I'm nervous and I I flip back and I was like. Oh they're gonNA show her like getting medication or going to Serapio like it's going to be the wrapping up of this depression storyline but she was just getting like a metal. A you know procedure with Tom. Like get her cellulite. Whatever I would have liked it. If they were GONNA touch on that. I would have liked to see like okay. What does that look like? What steps are you taking the improve it? Whatever that's the whole this a a little soapbox moment but for Jacks all season to be like Oh. She's playing the depression card. Oh she's Blah Blah Blah and then for at the end him to be like well. My brain is brain like it's not my fault. It was like Jackson such a hypocrite about everything. And I you know and I'm one of those people like I think things after like if I have an issue with somebody and we're talking out and I'll get home I'll be driving home damage. Should've said that I. That's exactly what happened was stand of all. I bet he was like. Why didn't I throw the fact that that is such a double standard? Because he jogs. You can't do that. Don't even play like that saying that. You're a handicapped person because your brain win. You can't have empathy for Arianna. Who in the season? That's another story line that we got teased with her depression. Which is something that I think is well. They didn't know we would be in quarantine but just like now just the mindset of a lot of people and just pre quarantine lake people get depressed people who on the outside seem to have it all. She's beautiful. She's got this great job. She literally has life that so many people dream of but that doesn't mean she didn't want to drive a car off the road one day like now. I was really happy. I listened to The twisted plot. Podcast the PODCAST. That had all that drama. That was one thing that that editor who ended up getting fired. She went into a story that I was so happy. Got Clarified because there is a lot of drama people are like Mandra. Pumpkin rules is fake. Look at on his hair and makeup that scene where she was talking. We'll making up with these Abana Palm. And she said she didn't like bartending there and she'd been prentice shitty about it and she wanted to go back to work there and her hair was long at one point then it was short and the explanation was. I'm sure you've listened to the episode but for other people who might not have listened will in this is common. I know because I was a journalism major in college. But like you take shots than you need wide shots so it's very common for reality shows to have an initial seen in new restart it from another angle and that's just how it works in the re-shoot. Arianna opened up a lot about her mental health. Lisa Vander pump that. She didn't do in that initial scene. And rather than just cutting the whole thing out and keeping the continuity. They thought that that was so important to Arianna and part her storyline that they needed to explain that and I think it was funny. That people got so upset about it but like that was the editors really throwing us a bone and Arjan because we needed to know that. Yeah for sure Though my little so for anybody who hasn't listened to that podcast yet. I really recommend very juicy interview for many reasons and some that are weren't even like talked about all that craziness because it really does kind of paint a picture of behind the scenes and that was definitely one. Yeah where that made a lot of sense to me that they wanted to keep that in I really would have liked for them to dive. I think that talking about mental health on television is so important and there are so many people that could relate to it and I wish that they had talked about more like they were gonNA touch on it. I would wanna see those tangible things of like. What does that look like? Because basically it shouldn't just be a storyline. It's not A. I'm feeling depressed now. I'm going to work at Sir and put on makeup and now I'm curious like I found it interesting that it kind of seemed like the The furniture argument all season of like you don't even have furniture. It was kind of like a metaphor for what was going on in our life that like. She didn't have furniture in her house. I felt like that was like almost like a like a way of talking about her depression. That there's something going on big that everybody's making fun of and that she is so protective over because there are so many things behind the scenes going on but I just wish that they had given us more of that and again. I don't mean to be like beating a dead horse but that is something that they could have shown instead of the Stupid Triangle Love Triangle that nobody cares about that obamacare even Even Dana. I'm sure was just like Oh my God like watching this back like I bet she's like Oh my God. I wish that like I was shown in so many other ways than without these boys because L. Interesting and those guys were absolutely no part of why we love her. We love her fight the fact that she dated those clowns. Exactly 'cause we've all dated these bags so we live with you. Dana. I don't even think either one of are that hot like the ones got a gorgeous body I mean. Don't get me wrong. He's Tall. He's off so hot like physically. Like neither one MAC for me. I'm ashamed to admit is like what would have been my exact type when I was eighteen years old like like I can picture him smoking a black and milds getting into a fight at a beach bar and like making me cry and then me being like no but I can change him like he's totally like my like half so so down for Max But Yeah I don't particularly think like I think of all the fuck poison. La like least give us like really handsome. Buck Boys Trust me. La's got more than enough. You might have dated the Max like I stated a couple of like really hot guys in my life and I feel like from what I understand friends who've seen Max before Sir and apparently who friends don't think he's necessarily attractive person or on TV on my Ati so fucking hot like if that's true. He's really that hot like I dated Super Hot guys like that and have hated them so much but because of my lack of self esteem like thinking. I'll never be worried to another guy who looks like this. Even though that is absolutely stupid and insane stayed for him with him for way too long. Because I would have liked. I could never do any better. Nobody else is GonNa love a yeah I just I just hope that I hope the Bravo is listening to this podcast but also just feel like the feedback of its themes like mostly everybody. I haven't really heard anybody be like. Oh yeah the addition of Maxim Brett. Like bring back. The girls were more controversial than I thought it was. Consistent the you new guys are hated the girls I think a lot of them a lot of us love them but a lot of people are just not behind them. And I don't really get it. I think they just don't like change. People were like. Hey Charlie Look. What is there to hate Issue named her after lister. He's go no. I think currently dope money to. She wanted me over as soon as she was. GonNa Return that shirt she was wearing like. Yes I see you I am You. Yes yes yes yeah for me. I think also people forget that the reason why we like Banda pumped blue is because everybody is everybody's trash people like everybody has their good days in their bad days and they have their moments of being likeable and then the very next team they're like most unlike people and so I think I think viewers forget that like we what drew in the first place was that everybody had their moment in the sun and everybody had moments of just being total monsters so like we're not watching vendor pump room because they're like the best humans ever if we were definitely the trash decays we all need to take a look inside so let's start with the positive what we're high moments of this season So I was surprised at how much I liked the engagement I found that I found it. I was really touched. I found it to be real. I found it really sweet This makes me a terrible person. I did find the dog funeral hilarious. The IMPLICATIONS OF YEAH. I know I know the implications that perhaps Schwartz didn't like feed and water him when they went to Miami and then the dog perished but I found. I just found it funny which again. I'm a terrible person. I loved Bo. both look of just like panic and despair when Jack was explaining Shania Twain. You're still the one lyrics like that for me is a moment and Bravo history. I loved it. I couldn't like I could watch that scene a thousand times over. I think that there were so many moments of comedy that got lost in the minutia of just like the bullshit. I'm but for me. It was like it wasn't an a plus season but it wasn't a fail like it would've been like you know you squeaked by with the path you're moving onto the next grade. You're doing fine. All right Something that I thought was hilarious was there was a package that It was a confessional star CNN. They had taken a bunch of packages as far as when the girls were doing the Bachelorette Party and they all wore the ugly dresses and Ot de Queens saucy was like. This is how everybody looks and she was like. Arianna wearing the ugliest dress because while she's wearing a dress in she would never usually wear this sheena looks like she just rolled out of bed. Got Something out of her damn closet. Because this is how Sheena always loosely just those little things because we know the people so well is Nasi just calling. Everybody out was so good again. The feminist in me loved loved loved that moment at the terrible scene in the last lights middle athlete two or three episodes where the guys were like fighting with Dana or about data at the table and go just stopped. Everybody was like a person who sitting at this table. That is probably more upset in embarrassing anybody. Right now is Dana. We really need to like move forward about looking at what because Bravo you mentioned below deck guys earlier we see. Jack's is a perfect example. Thomas Ravin all I mean. I could go on the legacy so many shitty behaviors of men on this channel the fact that we saw this diamond. That is Bo Clark. Stop a bunch of people. He had the uncommon the popular opinion among his whole table. People who weren't standing up for the woman and he stood up for the woman and I was like Bo Clark is my guy. Yeah that that was yeah. That was such a little moment but it was a big moment. Because you're exactly right like in the situation in real life. It's not an easy thing to do to step in and be like Yo look like everybody's show like this is why this is wrong and I think those are the moments that for me like I do like though and I do think he's genuine and I think that you know. Ultimately he is a good match for Saucy and we've seen her like struggle so I thought that was really nice to to see that full circle went for her to end up with like a decent good guy. Do you think we'll ever sees kristen on our screens again. Kristen I I hope I will love our. I think she's great television. I think I would love to see her. I think that also the witches of we ho drama is not over like I would like to continue to make them go to parties together and watch that unfold. I love the fact that kristen his low key the richest one now with her new her new boyfriend is worth like forty million dollars or something. Did you know that? That's amazing? Good for her. Yeah so I love that. I would love to see how that plays out in the dynamics of her coming back Richard sock with her boyfriend and seeing what that does to Lala not being the richest one anymore. I would love to watch that Yeah so maybe even Christine if she's not connected at all to stop see Kristen. Tom's Blah Blah Blah. She would actually fit in because she went to Brittany. She went to the Pool Party anyway with Brittany. Jacks in La La Iran. So maybe that would be more appropriate place for her. Because I love Christopher Dody. I don't understand where she would go with that group because at stories already been told if there's more to the story. I'm here I would love to hear it. But if it's just GONNA be more of were not on the same page like done with it but I don't want to lose my kristen. Don't WANNA lose my DHOTI. Yeah my Mariposa. Post that Zeke. Those scenes in I know it was a high point for you for me. Maybe the lowest seen in this season was the dog funeral. I hated it a. He didn't. Yeah maybe again. I'm a terrible person. I think if I'm if I'm thinking of it objectively and I'm looking inward and why like did I honestly think the only reason why it stuck out to me was it was so reminiscent of Sonya's dogs. You know from me Lou and I know that lot of people that was like okay. This is already been done but for me. Maybe it was like a glimpse of like. Oh it's similar to New York like it's GonNa be okay. So maybe that's why for me. I was like this is this is funny because I was like hoping almost that it would be that. Like New York moment of Sonia. Getting the ashes like blown all with a street God. That was so good and see. That's exactly why I did like it. I was like okay. You're not Sonja Morgan. You'll never be Sonia more again. Don't even go there like dull like it's not working. I wasn't a fan of that and I need to know what are your lowest moments of the show. What was the worst heart of season? Eight worst parts. I mean. I think I'm not alone. The wedding for me and I think Bravo did themselves a huge disservice. By starting off the season saying it wasn't going to be a main storyline because typically typically weddings are the entire season in the season. Finale is the wedding and so I think if they had just let us think that it was gonna be the whole season and then to our delight we find out. It's only half of the season. We would have been fine but our expectations were that it was going to be like by two for me. That was just like so wrapped to watch the other side of that coin is that it was so lovely to see. Brittany. Jacks realized they were no longer the Senate center of attention in that like after the wedding life goes on and everybody's life resumes like it's not about them anymore. I would've loved to see that. Like starting episode four for me. The wedding was a low point vendor paroles history and it's funny because in the old days I think they would have given Britney Jackson's spin off which is a vendor Fan I would have rather because I would have just not watched it right. Jackson Britney the Kentucky spinoff was not successful. It had not great ratings people so I know that they knew Bravo was wise enough to know that they can't do their own. Spinoff Beer not interesting enough. But why are they made us suffer through with like eight episodes like something Donna shaking and there were moments that I enjoyed. I another low point for me. I hated when they were just like old guys at the Strip club. It's just so like a trying so hard I feel for like those funny moments like the dog thing was like. You're trying for that moment it. It's not a natural moment. That's why does work. Yeah I think that they were like it was almost like slapstick. Comedy of like World People. Haw I just for me The wedding stuff was just so like bleak like it wasn't fun to watch and then One of my followers actually pointed out in the In my the end they the unmanned said like we didn't really get a cast trip because it was the Bachelorette party in the wedding where the trick didn't even really get that like crazy party weekend. Like yeah we got with the bachelor but it's always better when they're just like partying with no purpose right whereas they were very much like there was a purpose it was the bachelor Bachelorette Party and then the wedding like so. That almost grew a wrench in the whole dynamic of what we usually get in a season two because we didn't get that like fun party weekend where there's nothing really land and just like everybody goes crazy. I'm that's a really good point and a trip to for sales is not doing it for me. It's not enough. That's disappointing as a cash trip is it is to go to. Seoul. They okay not cutting it. Yeah least in solving. We got this secrets and eating. Like median flowers. Like we didn't get anything from versale except for like the most cliche vows I've ever heard every instagram. And podcast like me like made fun of what their vows would be and then it was literally like word for word what we would have made fun of like these are what the bowels are going to be and then it was like in one that and. I'm so glad you said it because I would have probably forgotten to mention you're still the one is the most how Larry the fat that Britney end jets. Are that dumb. Look that just shows what a level of unintelligent really with with year like these two are missing. There are a few friends short of a happy meal to say the absolute. I did love a terrible story. That horrible wedding. I did love the princess thing and I love how it made Brittany so upset and we got some really good moments from Brittany. I used to love that shows. You how bad this season was. I used to love brandon fact every time had watched the show. I would choose my favorite Britney clip and I would do I would show Brittany on my insist story the not doing Brittany impression in after about like episode six. I think after the episode where she was like. I just want everybody to be happy celebrating by Ridge. Like would you like? I stopped doing those after episode six because it just stopped being fun like. She's just not fun anymore. So question for you because for me I think her true colors are showing. But for you are. Do you think that it that she is like morphing into Jack or do you think it was just a really bad unforgiving at it? Is both an acceptable answer. I think she an. I don't think I ever articulated it as well as you did earlier on. This show like good girls date taxes in realized that that's not gonNa work but the fact that she married him I think shows her true colors or she that ignorant like do you really think you're at thirty something year old woman like. Are you still believing that you can change your man the Yes? I think she is way smarter than everybody. Give her credit for so one of the things I do on my instagram is. I do like a Harry Potter sorting ceremony of like Bravo. And I got so much push back. I need her slithering which I don't know if you know about Harry Potter where predominantly like the Cunning Evil. People are and everybody's like no she's not evil but I don't necessarily think she's evil but I think she's berry calculated like I very much think that she knew what she was doing every step away and she's gotten what she wants on. This hit reality television show. She's married a Reality Star like I think very much. She knows what she's doing. And people thought to is like a sweet innocent girl from Kentucky and I think from day one. She like had a goal and she has accomplished that goal. She is in the friend group. She's on the show and she is married to Jack. She got her new boobs. Her Mom Housing Chin. It's working out for her. I mean sure many tiers of been shed but the more. I'm learning about her. I think in the more the veil has been you know looked at her through is being lifted. I'm realizing that. Yeah no she maybe Jackson just rubbing off on her and maybe she is to be a great person to now. She's just around the trash bad so much that she doesn't remember what it's like to be a decent person but I've I've really changed about. Britney this season it breaks my heart because I loved her when I went to the vendor pub cocktail gardens. She was the nicest thing in the world and she even did the whole impression for me like she did her like revert. Bright me I love you. Yeah I don't know I hope like again. I hope for her say that she knows what she's doing and she isn't just like in this relationship where she thinks she's going to change. Jack Taylor because there is no changing him for sure. I was blood saucy. Had that conversation with him I mean besides Lisa Vander pump. She's the only one he will listen to do. I don't think it's GonNa do any good. But she did her due diligence. Lisa Vendor pump did her due diligence that season I and I hope people appreciate that slowdown music at the end of the episode and Lisa narrating it. That was the exact same style of the first few minutes of the season. They had that like slowdown music. They had lisa narrating lake. It's kind like the way it started as the way it ended and it really buzzing job done by the editors at Bravo because they really did a good job with that but Jackson saying that it was his show in Lisa's Clare. Back was I tweeted earlier. Truly one of the highlights of twenty twenty was Lisa Ripping Jackson. New One yeah I love. The Bravo has started showing Are Breaking the fourth wall little bit that like real element to it and for them to do that personnel. Lisa's speech with perfection. I need her to do like motivational tapes. That I listened to as I fall asleep of her being. Like you know telling me like it is right. Yeah please leave manner pump. If the Ben Garden doesn't work out like get into that but I just I just loved that it seemed so real that she was like listen. Like it you're really fucking up your life you need to turn this around I loved that broke that fourth wall of her being like. I'm no actually my show and I thought that that last like two minutes. They really like it. They came full circle and it really could have been the start of the new chapter or like the end of the series. It was like very ominous. We Kristen leaving by yourself. We saw all the couples in everybody's in a good place. Now except of course Jackson. Brit need where. The newly weds which is just it says it all right there I kind of you off earlier about the low points. Was there anything else that you wanted to say? I kind of got on tangent. I think just the wedding for me definitely was a low point The Love Triangle with the low point on I would have liked to see more of the new people if they were going to give us the new people give us the new people like. Don't just like give us these. Like one dimensional. Like talking heads where I'm like I don't really know you But to some up the season I I made a instagram post. And I said well Britney is monster. The Tom Smart businessman. James Sober and Katie's likable. Twenty twenty. Wild is happening here like I think about the year and you know growing up it was always like. Oh twenty twenty. You know you see clearly. It's always been exciting to be the year twenty twenty. The fact that were sitting in our homes I haven't washed my hair in probably close to five or six days. Because why would I why would i? Why do they do any of that stuff like we didn't would-be here? That's for sure. Yeah yet for many many reasons than Oh yeah twenty. Twenty wild off to a good start. We're almost halfway through you. Better get your shit together. Isn't that crazy? Oh so crazy. I'm a Gemini and Gemini Season Starts Tomorrow and I am horrified that I'm GonNa have to like find ways for people to give me attention attention. Virtually and it's just like not my jam. I always do like a big birthday thing. I know you're the same way like you does your online for like yeah happening here knowing the total saucy and a murdy planning like not only just when things are open but like when things are safe. GonNa throw not just for me. Because you know I don't want to seem like the ego person that I am. Cover it up. But I'm a anybody that was stuck at home that during quarantine if you wanted to joint birthday party let's do it and make it very arianna chassis by I would. That's all out to Vegas. I'll go like once everything's open and safe like I'm going to just be like anywhere but my home. Oh my God and we need you like. I'm very concerned about our city. Just the way it's built in like the fact that we're built around tourism and gambling in those places like no matter. How clean a casino is fucking disgusting. Like it's all money you have to put money in in the only thing grocer than our hands are like dollar bills. The whole city like it's it's going to be so different so I would love for you to come would love to meet you. I R. L. and Because like we're best friends now. I hope you know that. Oh I'm fully aware I love it. I love that like this is like becoming like my little cocktail hour when we do these things and I need act my instagram live or sir. I can't wait of got a little. Something of ice leave already. I've already thought about something that I am very excited to bring to the table to honor of you. Queen Chelsea so. Why don't you tell the fairly pack where they can find? You sure I'm on Instagram at Ono Bravo. I'm doing instagram. Live every Friday five. Pm Pacific Eight PM Eastern as everything starts to slowly open up. I may transition to Sunday. Funday like as people are able to leave their homes on Friday but for now keeping it Fridays have a new person on every week. I'm definitely going to have you back sometime next month. So yeah at Ono Bravo and give me a follow because I wanna get that like up my swipe up journey. I need to take some lessons from you. Which you're what like eight thousand now. So seven thousand. Okay so if I gave you my followers you'd be pretty close I am. The problem is and this is like a good thing but like I've gotten a lot of new listeners lately and it's not because instagram makes it easy like they hear like instagram clips. Whatnot like if you're going to the Lincoln bio it's fucking confusing like there's all this clicking in stop whereas if I could be like oh like I just didn't episode with Paul from Real Reality Homosexual. I love him. 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The New Corner Office: Invest in good headshots

Before Breakfast

05:37 min | Last month

The New Corner Office: Invest in good headshots

"Here that that's the sound of my just got a payment where three months of payroll face also known as my pace that happens when i can accept credit and debit cards bank. Transfer and mobile pay with intuit quickbooks. That's payments made easy. We thought this ad was over. Who know here comes my holding a squeal in front of a customer face and my whoa getting paid twice as fast face things for that. Quickbooks quickbooks payments account subject to eligibility twice fast based on customer use comparison from august. Twenty nine hundred july twenty twenty. Good morning this laura. Welcome to the new corner office. The podcast where we share strategies for thriving in the new would've location an hours. I'm more flexible than in the past. Today's tip is to invest in good headshots working from home. You are generally seeing fewer people in person. People are more likely to get to know what you look like from your photos so you want to be sure. Your photos are conveying the right impression. When i got a contract for my first book a great many years ago i realized that i needed some author photos that i was happy with. I worked with a photographer who took lots of shots in central park. And i were some outfits that said author to me probably. It was a little silly but i liked having the photos available for publicity over the years. I've taken advantage of any opportunity to get new head. Shots taken several conferences. I've attended have had makeup artists and photographers available and paying for their services has seemed like a great bargain. That's because these days we tend to know people from their pictures. Whenever i'm a guest on a podcast the show tends to ask for a headshot to us on social media. When i'm giving a speech the event distributes my head shot as part of publicity. Your linked in profile should have a headshot. Your website needs a good headshot. Remote workers will often be using their headshots and so these headshots should be good now. Good means several things. I hire a pro. Yes you can take photos with your phone but you know. All those gorgeous influence types on instagram. Have you ever noticed how entire families are all in the photos and the influencers themselves are always in the photos. Well that's because they've got pros taking these pictures. It really does matter. They know what they're doing with lighting composition and they have better equipment now. Consider getting your hair and makeup professionally done to my current head. Shot was taken outside and is perhaps we been edited to make me look better but you can achieve the same result by hiring a makeup pro. These folks know how to make you look like yourself just a little more rested and healthy and finally think about the image that you are conveying. Yes it's just your head and shoulders but there's more to it than that. What are you wearing casual clothes. Say something different from a suit and outdoor with trees and leaves in the background creates a different person than one taken inside. You might consider having multiple shots taken with some thing your tools of the trade. If you're trade happens to involve photogenic tools and consider your expression. I like to come across as friendly and a purchase. But maybe it's better for your professional brand to be glamorous or to look inciteful or dreamy or authoritative. You know best but make sure. The decision is conscious. Then protect get the digital file and save it with a name. That means it comes up quickly when you're attaching files to emails. I put an underscore. And then laura vander cam hi rez given that. It's one of the most common things people ask for. There's no need to scroll all the way down to my name in the final section to include it. So if you're relying on an iphone shot or one of those boring corporate photos that your organization took of everyone consider getting some better had shots taken. It's not cheap necessarily but it's probably not terribly expensive either and if one person thinks that you look great to work with well that might be a good investment. You might even start taking yourself more seriously because hey you can see that you look pretty confident and good in the meantime this is laura. Thanks for listening. And here's succeeding in the new corner office. The new corner office is a production of iheartradio for more podcasts. Visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your favorite shows for the one standing guard for the eagle-eyed for the knights in shining armor and for all those who support them we are grainger. You're experienced safety partner offering supplies and solutions for every industry committed to helping keep your facility safe. And your people safer call click grainger dot com slash safety or just stop by grainger for the ones who get it done.

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Talkin' The Star: Should the Cowboys trade LVE?

Blogging the Boys

22:33 min | 2 weeks ago

Talkin' The Star: Should the Cowboys trade LVE?

"Welcome back talking to star in to date. It is just. I don't miller and cole. L patterson. connor is getting married in about three weeks so he is taking the next month or so off of all football duties. He's just hanging out getting ready. Doing all the work that goes into being married because it is a big commitment And one that he is getting ready for right now now. He will be back with us next week i assume we had some scheduling conflicts. That didn't allow us all together at the same time but to say we're going to talk about cattle a cowboys favorite topic that we have that we have had for a couple of years now ever since their emergence and then divergence from good that is the dallas cowboys linebacking core and we have a big one with a trade rumor about leighton vander esch. And just let me get the tweet up real quick from one. Jane slater because it is a little bit of a bombshell dressing. Leighton vander esch. Trade rumors purse source informed. Yes there have been other teams interested in the linebacker. But i'm told the cowboys are not interested in a trade and he's still very much a part of the plan next year and in the future. Now this comes off of the heels of the nfl draft. That was now a couple of months ago but the cowboys reportedly tried to or were in talks with somebody about possibly training. Leighton vander esch now. Those reports have never really been substantiated. It would make sense that the cowboys would do that. Now that they do have leighton vander esch jalen smith. Mike parsons who they took with. The twelfth overall pick in the nfl draft and djibril cox who we all believed could have been a top seventy five pick in the nfl draft that we got a lot later than that and does something that this team doesn't currently have in that its cover at the linebacker position co what do you make of all these rumors. Yeah i mean like you said. Linebacker has been like a polarizing topic in dallas. You know from there is eighteen. Jalen swindling lane veteran is going to be the next grade linebacker. Do oh everybody's all excited looked like our defenses in great shape and then kind of hit Injuries happing jalen space has gotten regressed. A bunch of that kind of stuff happening uncertainty so. I'm not really too surprised about the trade rumors. Just because of the fact of the cowboys. pickup in russia's fifth year option There is there's been speculation parting ways with jalen smith so there's in any you add in the fact they drafted two linebackers fifteen wine As best player available Day three the almost drafted in the third round There's some reports they were choosing to aminat- on right with the ninth overall. Pick so it's not a huge shock. But yeah i mean. I do take it. Would you know you have a new coordinator in town. He's brought in kiana neo to play linebackers. I mean there's just about to say that. I forgot other neal is also linebacker so this back in court. Mike parsons jailers. Myth leighton vander esch. Kiana neil brio cox and francis benard and we can't forget about luke gifford. Who was everybody's darling for about ten seconds before you had the season. An injury like yeah. There's a lot of body it's loaded. Yeah they sound like they don't have a lot of guaranteed money kiana. Neil they can get rid of some other guys but you know. Galileo is a guy that has can actually dad quyen. He's exceeded in that scheme. And obviously the cowboys are opening ads and versatility to their defense. So trade rumors in itself aren't shocking you just outta who would trade for either one right now with their injury history with respiratory being a free agent next year is a team. Wanna give up capital when it could maybe possibly sign him next year What day. I did see. was a steeler site Discount speculating about maybe pittsburgh. Wanting to trade for leighton vander edgewood which i thought would be interesting on getting devon bush to a pair with vander esch getting those two guys in that vicksburg. Mike tomlin defense. I think that would be pretty interesting. i just don't know what kind of compensation to cowboys again. I know you said like jane slater's reporting that the cowboys are pretty set on cape again. But what compensation do you think would make them change their minds. would it take. I rob day. I don't think anybody would part ways. I would add to be significant or would it be like a third round pick. Like what kind of cost do you think. The cowboys will go We already have all these guys begun. We wanna give partisans gerbil cox chances to grow kiana neo on the field. What do you think what would it cost for. Doubts ship off like very nourished. Oh man i mean at this point you gotta feel with the the neck injury in the past with the neck. You know coming out of school i mean. I don't think you can get anything better than a third round. Pick at this point. If you get if you can somehow get a second round pick for leighton vander esch. Take it and run. You have to listen. And i'm somebody who has continued to remain higher on leighton vander esch especially in our partner. Connor live because connor is only. I've remained higher on late night. A lot of people have my my issue is it is with the availability of late mannerist which we have not seen in the past few years you know. It's the collar bone and the neck. And so with that. I mean i am a very big proponent of her guy stay hurt and i think that's part of the deal with with with late mannerist so i think if you can somehow get a second round. Pick you know even if it's for a contender and you think it's going to be a late second round pick. That is a steal now for manresa. I if you can get a third round. Pick for jalen smith or i might even take fourth round pick for jailings. Take because at this point ladies and gentlemen there. Seven linebackers on this roster. That is too many. They're not all going to see the field like alcee. The field lead your nickel for seventy percent of the down. So i can't see them going into the twenty twenty one regular season with all these guys stolen the roster but i don't know who they get rid of. I don't know how they get rid of any of them saves. I mean if you spin off fifteen pick on a linebacker you want him to be on the field right out. The gate says. I've already have some plans with using him as a pass rusher That's the only thing that kind of slows me down. A little bit is if they want to go with more odd man fronts and they wanna use. Mike parsons rushing from a two point stance off the edge. I think that that's one way that they can get around all of that. My my issue is the the gebriel cox and and the keanu neil pairing because they're kind of the same player counted. Neil somebody who played safety but is a linebacker. Now and bro cox. Somebody who played in the slot for ndsu and then played linebacker for lsu. They're kind in the same player. I don't know how brokaw cc's the field in your one but he's a good guy to have on the rosters developmental guy and somebody. You could play special teams. So what does that. What does that mean for. Luke gifford and francis bernard at that point with francis. Bernard is the guy who i liked coming out of utah. So i- it's it's really really tough because you get your your pet cats in drafts and i liked. Djibril cox bernard so i. I don't. I don't know what's going to happen but i'm gonna be sad no matter what given me some tough decisions to make. Do they went partisans on the field as much as possible. And i do think they went on neil on the field as well With titanic connection he does have Experience in a league obviously use pro bowl caliber player in twenty seventeen. And just like as he said. I mean he has. It is a passing league. He's played safety. They what him on the field. You can't have three guys that can't cover. I mean you kind of question. Michael parsons ability in coverage. Jails smith has proven he can be a liability in vander esch amee flashes but he also can't see it in the field he also likes struggles to so it's like you kind of have to pick your poison there you can have to end. You can't be all seven linebackers yet to find a way to if you don't to part ways with one more than one more than one or two you're going to have to make some difficult choices for the better maverick's defense so i think it's gonna be really interesting to see Threat training camp When the preseason arrives and all that kind of stuff who's the odd man out Is bernard is dc. Make the cut. Did they move on gifford or they do they try to go along at linebacker and try to see if they can get all these bodies on the field and dan. Dan coins decent They it's gonna be fascinating so we have to have a take. That's the way that these things go. Where in sports media here. Who is going to in week. One me the starters the two starters at linebacker for the dallas cowboys and who is going to meet the two starters at linebacker for the cowboys at the end of the season. This episode is brought to you by. Hp instant inc. No one is reading your mind. But hp instant inc knows when you're printers running low and sends you new cartridges. So you never have to think about inc save up to fifty percent you'll pay less than five dollars a month for inc and never run out again. Find out if your printer is eligible and enroll today at hp instant inc dot com conditions apply for details visit hp dot com slash. Instant inc spotify. It's a good question. Week wayne I just. I don't see them taken. Jalen smith off the field until i see with my own eyes. I think we won. You're gonna see vander esch and jalen smith back out there. They're gonna eat. I think they're gonna use parsons a lot. I think they're gonna probably transition into the field kind of bring him along slowly but they don't probably wanna rush amanda action just yet and then towards the middle of the season. They're going to break him loose at dickey's definitely starter by season's end. I'll go with. He's healthy. I'll go with parsons vander. Esch being The end of the season stars to start the season. I think this is going to be jalen. Smith and leighton vander esch by the end of the season. I think the starters are going to be mike. Parsons encounter. neil. And i say that because i don't think that leighton vander esch will finish the season just because i added that yes i added a. He's healthy just because of injuries. I do think that there's a chance that one of either he. Because i can't imagine they're going to spend the money to keep him around after this year. I know the jane slater reported that then that it is a source report. But i think that's got to be all lip service. I don't think that they can keep him around with all of the assets that they have their. Unless i mean they could always get rid of killing neil after this year but i think neil good football player and i think that you have him at a bargain. It'd be interesting to see how he looks as a traditional linebacker. But i'm really interested to see how that goes. And i think he ends up starting at least a couple of games during the course of the season. Now i want to transition from this. And i wanna finish this podcast off. We got two little segments here talking about linebackers and now we have a little segment. I wanna talk about the best receiving course in the nfl. And i wanna take. This is obviously coming off of the heels of pro football focus dropping their top receiving corps in the nfl may have the tampa bay buccaneers at one of the dallas cowboys at to save the chiefs three and they are adding the tight ends into the fold. So i wanna ask a couple of different questions here. I want to ask you. Do you think that the bucks have a better receiving corps when you add in the tight ends to the fold as well like you do agree with. Pf apps rankings or. Do you think the cowboys have a better overall receiving corps than the bus sue see. It's just hard. 'cause jarwin doesn't have much experience and he he's coming off an injury. I think right now but you have him and scholtz as well sure. Sure there's tampa bay only really. I mean if some talent there but you know rock's pretty washed up idea bright Jay howard still. They're still there. He was hurt at the end of last year. Yeah i mean they did have some talent there. man just. I haven't checked out the pf west could. But i did see bleacher report. Marie moton he released his top barbeque. See reduces well in tampa bay was also a number one they're Believe he had a cooper in ceedee lamb but he also said you can interchange lamb or with gallup. it's the fourth best duo in the league. pretty interesting. He i think he had Julio and ridley is well yeah. I mean julio might be out of town pretty soon. Yeah dan who was number two. I can't think of number two. I'll get to that later but yeah I think it's an interesting conversation i'll take tampa gets denied. Just because he's hard. I mean come on the super bowl ryan. You've got my edge. Chris godwin or probably to top ten receivers in the league. But i do think it's really close when he added in tight ends. I really like blake jarwin. Cowboys fans are probably a lot higher jarwin and much of the public just because we know what he can do and he's not he's no undrafted free agent not a household name tories. Acl early last year by do dallas. Can you know take that number. One spot by years ed My opinion. I don't think there's better trio in the league wide receiver. That went dallas has in as you mentioned you're not just talking about jarwin. Your timeout jarwin and scholtz proved to be more than capable tied in last year. Its antidote and playing the majority of the season. You know he had a big game against the falcons kinda robichaud we do know. He was dressed into that starting role week after jarwin wind down. He wasn't expected to play that much action. And be a primary target from dak prescott and he. He made back happy Rewarded dacca with trust again. And yeah i do. Think it's a really close. I think you're splitting hairs I guess you could say the titan tree of tied in the have when you add embrace you add in a A healthy oj. Howard noah j howard scott have been a disappointment compared to where he was drafted beyond. I mean i have no issues with that. But i can see where in the cowboys. Having an argument yeah. I don't have an issue with putting tampa bay's weapons as a whole in front of the dallas cowboys. Now i think when you add in ezekiel elliott tony pollard. You know if you add them into the mix then. I think that the dallas cowboys have the best just overall in the league when it comes to the offensive weapons but from the pure receiving standpoint. You know the that said that it starts with the best receiver room in the nfl. That features mike evans chris godwin and antonio brown and i do somewhat disagree with that. Now i agree with you. In the fact that mike evans and chris godwin both probably top ten in the nfl. Mike evans is one of somehow. The most underrated wide receivers in the league despite starting his career off with seven. Straight thousand yard seasons yes. Chris godwin had a little bit of a down year last year with with tom. Brady instead of jameis winston. But chris godwin is somebody who does everything. Well there's there's no. Weak point to chris godwin game now. My issue is with the antonio brown having cooper gallup and cd land because i think those guys are probably three top twenty five to thirty wide receivers in the nfl. I think that amari cooper top ten receiver in the nfl especially when he is healthy. Your second best or the best route runner in the nfl. Or or keenan. Allen keenan allen's a little bit better. Technically i think that cooper has a little bit better quicker footwork to two separate cd. Liam is going to be a top ten ish receiver after this season and with that prescott. Michael gallup is a top twenty wide receiver and the nfl now without dak prescott. That number goes down a little bit. Because dak prescott is able to get the ball to places where michael gallup is able to really flourish. Which is something that other. Quarterbacks aren't good enough to do to to really show. What gallup does well. And so i like the wide receiver just wide receiver trio of the cowboys better. Yeah with tight ends. I do like the bucks. The buck's trio of typhoons is is outstanding. You've got him in a besting targeted when you're talking about the wide receiver trio. I think it they aunt antonio brown still get the benefit. The dow. Yes name recognition. You know us obviously a superstar the steelers but the fact of the matter is he hasn't been at since leaving pittsburgh you know his head case of two different places with with the raiders. Obviously things that worked out the patriots. Either i mean he had some important plays at the buccaneers last year. And they're in their ryan by one at say he was like a big x factor. Big i mean you mean Co wise is name. Scotty miller he. I mean he was just as important as antonio brad. If not more in that playoff run i think i think if you're ranking trios and you're putting tampa bay right now over dallas his trio. Are they gonna just has to do is more people are familiar. Tonia browns in michael gallup michael galliano third-round pig you didn't have the name recognition and he doesn't have the publicity and he's a big personality a lot of people know about him like you said it. Honestly that's what i love about. The cowboys. receiving group. Right now is there are really no big personalities. Cd is just a kind of a normal dude. From everything that i've been able to see cooper is incredibly reserved and why dude is well. It's a really awesome group. And i wish. I hope that they're able to keep all three together. I just don't see how to keep gallup. After the season him in him and tak had that really special unique relationship on and off to feel. Like you're saying dak knows how to get in. Get him the ball in like tight. Windows are only gal can get it Not every quarter. I can do that. They have that connection there and it seems like it's been that way since his rookie. I remember his first. Career is washington at fifty yard touchdown or whatever that was Ever since then. They've kind of forced together on the field. I mean you see them together. Rangers games here in town. I think i think if you ask stack give will do everything in his power to keep gal is like you said i don't know if they can afford it. Are they gonna make that work. If you're just wide receiver trios out. Deathly taoist at the top of the league I don't really see anybody else. That can really challenge. I mean there's duo. Second john for sure but when you put one two and three Is to stock up real quick. That bleacher report article had metcalfe unlock it at number two ahead of ahead of dallas earlier. I don't have i. I don't have a huge problem with them being ahead of the cowboys but people are somehow sleeping on. Julio jones i that he was injured last year but he was still putting up numbers playing through a strain hampering for most of the season. He is still superstar. I think he's still pound for pound the best wide receiver. Nfl i think that the most dangerous wide receivers tyreek hill. But that's a different conversation. I think julio jones's still for my money and the best received the nfl but guys that's all we got for you today. Thank you for finding that Last the last su there by the way cold. Yeah for sure. Also love the headset loving the audio that we are getting from patterson now i am very game exactly man. I'm excited to keep this with. Listen we're we're getting into june. We're going to start getting into training camp talk. You're coming up a little bit. Dak prescott looking healthy in the little pictures that we've seen him the little videos we've seen him paroling. I'm super excited for the season. I need it to get here less than one hundred days. Maybe let's do it all right. That's it catches next week on. Talk in the star.

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Why a one-time vegan became a hunter

Climate Connections

01:30 min | 1 year ago

Why a one-time vegan became a hunter

"I'm Dr Anthony Wits, and this is climate connections. Hunting may seem like an unexpected pastime for Iowa resident Rachel Vander F-. I did not grow up. Hunting I was not at all involved in hunting world. An environmental consultant. She was Vegan for a while because of animal welfare and sustainability concerns, but vandor were missed eating meat so obtained in a way she feels as ethical. She decided to try hunting and after her first deer hunt, she was hooked. Really. That was the first time that I felt like I was part of nature and part of the food system. How she's gotten more involved, she's realized that hunting can inspire people to protect wildlife habitat. She says hunters often lead land conservation efforts interstate. Iowa has lust ninety nine percent of its native prairie and wetlands, and it's really important to conserve what we have left so today. A group called at a below doors. It offers classes on hunting, fishing and foraging. She hopes these practices helped. People feel more connected to nature. The more people are out enjoying our land the more likely that they're going to be invested in wanting it to be conserved. Climate connections is produced by the Center for environmental, communication to hear more stories like this visit, climate connections dot Org.

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Natalee Holloway

Killer Knowledge

06:12 min | 1 year ago

Natalee Holloway

"Natalie Holloway never showed up to her hotel to make her flight home on May thirtieth two thousand five after a graduation trip in Aruba with her high school senior class. And she was never seen again. But you know how much money the main suspect tried to extort from her family. Welcome to killer knowledge the daily true crime tribute. Show. I'm Carter Roy. It's time to play along with your friends, family or fellow true crime fans. You'll have the chance to answer five Trivia questions with six seconds to make your guests. Let's play killer knowledge. Natalie Holloway was just eighteen years old when she was last seen by her friends and classmates outside in Aruba bar around one thirty am on the last night of their five day trip. Question Number One. What was the name of the bar where Natalie was last seen? A. Carlos and Charlie's be cafe chaos see! Senor Frog's. The correct answer is a Carlos and Charlie's. The Bar was extremely popular for young tourists in two thousand five, since the legal drinking age, in Aruba is eighteen. A few years after Natalie's disappearance, the bar closed. Her friends say the night she vanished Natalie had gotten into a car with three local guys, including the man who would become the main suspect in her disappearance. Question number two. What is his name? Nick John. Be. Urine van der Sloot Abraham Jones. The correct answer is be urine Vander sloot. Of sloot and brothers, Deepak and sautes Kalpana we're all questioned by investigators and initially claimed they dropped Natalie off at her hotel that night. Investigators were also able to connect your and Vander sloot to Natalie from security footage shown to her parents. who spotted the two seated near each other question number three? Where was this security footage from? A. Casino. Be. A restaurant see a hotel lobby. Correct answer is a casino. Security footage was discovered showing Natalie sitting at the same blackjack table as urine Vander sloot in the excelsior casino that was connected to her hotel. Between June, two thousand, five in November two, thousand, seven, all three suspects were arrested and released several times by December, two thousand seven. The case was declared closed question number four. What caused the case to eventually be reopened? A, the brothers confessed. Be Her body was found. See undercover video of Anderson. The correct answer is C.. An undercover video of your and Vander sloot high on marijuana. Allegedly admitting details of her murder was released. The case was reopened, but van. Der sloot was again not charged. Five years after Natalie Holloway's disappearance Urine Vander. sloot wanted to get back at the Holloway family for quote making his life tough. So, he extorted them for information question number five to end this episode. How much money did urine Vander sloot demand for? On Natalie's death. A one hundred and fifty thousand dollars be two hundred thousand dollars C., two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The correct answer is see. He demanded two hundred fifty thousand dollars from Natalie's mother to provide her with the location of her daughter's remains. A few months after the extortion plot vendor suit was in prison after becoming the confirmed killer of a twenty one year old Peruvian student. Natalie! Holloway was declared legally dead in absentia on January twelfth two thousand twelve. To everyone listening, thank you for playing killer knowledge with us. Don't forget to check us out on facebook and Instagram at park cast and on twitter at podcast network, and you can also listen to more episodes of killer, knowledge and other park cast originals on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts I'm Carter. Roy Join US again to find out if you can call yourself a true crime, expert killer knowledge was created by Max Cutler and is a podcast studios original. It is executive produced by Max Cutler produced by Kristen Vado John Cohen e to MIRA and Jonathan. ratliff sound design by Paul Liebskind Killer, Knowledge Stars Carter Roy.

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RHONJ Reunion: Teresa Giudice Clashes with Melissa Gorga But Does Her Future Include Joe Giudice? (with Melissa Gorga, Tom Sandoval)

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1:00:31 hr | 2 years ago

RHONJ Reunion: Teresa Giudice Clashes with Melissa Gorga But Does Her Future Include Joe Giudice? (with Melissa Gorga, Tom Sandoval)

"Hi, it's making sokaia, and Eric j MAC, and this is the daily dish Bravo's official podcast. This week. We're talking Vander pump rules. We have part two of the real house ice of New Jersey reunion and real house is Beverly Hills. It's getting crazy, and of course, wrap things up with rose and thorn, plus we have interviews with Tom Sandoval, Melissa Gorka. And we didn't have an episode of real house of later this week, but it'll be back next week. So we can talk about it. Then. Okay. So part two of the house was New Jersey reunion again with Theresa just being I don't know. It's the Theresa show. Jackie do you think Melissa can control. Joe? No. I think he's like Ivan. They're strong willed. And they do what they wanna do that your opinion because your best friend because we're twelve now she is right. You guys hang out all the time. Good friends. I don't like her. This is what I feel you don't like her because she likes me pointing Wang. On the you can't stand it. Why don't we just say it? I don't like that between you now. Something you should go. I mean, if you guys didn't listen to last week's episode, definitely go back. We talked to Jackie goals Neider and she gave her the on. Why Theresa May have been so amped up and this week? You know, we're seeing a lot more of Theresa and Melissa. Whereas last week, it was kind of Theresa Jackie. It was Margaret and Jennifer, but this week we really got into the family stuff again. And it was kind of intense. It makes me so mad because Melissa's talking about how she had seen the medium. The medium said your dad wants you to know, you may have another sister. This is something deeply personal about Melissa formalist interest. Always finds a way to make something about her. And she did in this case when she was like, well, I think you have a sister here, and you should treat me more like a sister. What's your reaction to Melissa searching for this sister? She has a sister here. Wait, you take it as a fence to you that I was looking for a system. Saying you have sister-in-law here that you should treat more like a sister. And I feel like, you know. I don't treat you like a sister should be on this side of the catch. Not that side. Why don't you tell Andy that? I'm not in charge. I mean, you always seem to side up with other people that are guest me. What are you talking about? Hello, jackie. I'm not against tell me. I'm not crazy or this girl. Just started with me at a nowhere. I'm sitting here talking about my father and my sister macho race my starting. We always start. What do you do this? We're saying what are you talking about? You have been rejecting Melissa for how many years it just now got to a good place. You know? Absolutely. I mean, Melissa talks about a little bit more in the interview later. But what I thought was interesting is I think when I first heard Theresa say that I didn't necessarily interpret it as her being kind of like bitchy about it. Like, I really thought maybe she was trying to be like, well, I, you know, I'm here for you. But like actions speak louder than words, and I don't think Theresa's really been showing that she has been a good. Sister to Melissa a lot this season. And I don't think Melissa has received that. So I think Melissa when she heard Theresa react that way automatically was like, are you serious? Are you coming for me? I I love how she was like am I crazy or did? She just start with me. Okay. I will also say this even though they're on a good path. All you have to do is go read Theresa's latest book. Okay. Because there are several jabs toward Melissa in it. These two are not ever going to be. Sisters, so true. I mean, we've seen it season after season there's always been something. And I feel like you know, Teresa was may be getting a big head during this whole reunion. Especially after coming off the fight with Jackie where she was sort of making. It seem like, you know, Jackie's just a big fan of the show, and she's a stalker or whatever she was saying. So I think at that moment to recess head was already a little bit bigger, which is why she kind of reacted that way. But like you said, she just like turned it around and made it about her, and like it had nothing to do with her had nothing to Joe it had everything to do with just Melissa potentially finding this, you know, long lost sister that she might have. So why even address it why even try to make it about you, just like let Melissa have her moment and just move on from that? But Theresa just had to pipe pipe in. And of course, we end this reunion with a pretty crazy admission from Theresa which is that if Joe her husband does get deported. She's not going to go with him knowing. The history that the two of you have had you have been so ride or die and so devoted to him. And I still am. So if he is deported and goes to Italy, will you go there with him. I hope that's not a decision. I have to make. Pick up my children and just moved to another country. I don't think that would be good for my children. So I mean, so no, I probably wouldn't. Wow. This man is the one and only of your life. But what you're saying is that will go your supper ways. This ruling doesn't go your way. Can you really blame her though? It's like it's a really tough situation that she's in. But can you imagine having to upper your whole life? Just because of that like, I don't think I blame her for it. Now, I mean, and I do I got a sneak peek apart three. So I know we're going to go into it more. But obviously just to hear Theresa talks openly thus far about it. Like, we have not seen that as fans as Andy said, you know, this is the first time she's. Really said black and white. No, absolutely. I mean, it's also like it's been such a waiting game for her. And I feel like the closer it gets the more real it, obviously gets and she's been so busy with her fitness competitions and shooting the show, you know, so she's probably been able to a little bit distract herself from the whole thing. And I think when Andy asks that question like it really becomes so much more real for her, and you can sort of see kinda shift and her demeanor. Like, it sort of is one of those things where she's like, oh my God. This is a decision. I'm going to have to make soon, and you know, she mentioned that it's going into appeals. And who knows how long that could be and she speaks really kindly of her lawyers because it's such a tough situation. And it's there's kids involved, and and all of this sort of stuff. So it was kind of nice to see her react the way that she did. And it sort of went to show that she knows that everyone's doing everything they can to keep him here. But the reality of the matter is is that he may have to leave the country, and she's probably not gonna go with. Him. Yeah. That was another point in the reunion where I was like Theresa turning the conversation back on herself, which is Melissa talking about how her father died and how even though it was later in life sheep. It's like, I'm realizing I do have daddy issues and trees was like see. That's why my daughter's need their dad. It's so true. But it was also like give it a minute. Theresa. Like we're talking about Melissa right now. It's true. And I actually really appreciated that sort of admission from Melissa because I feel like, you know, as you grow older, and as you start to learn more about yourself, and your parents and the things that you've been through. I always like to hear when people are very open about. Yeah. I think I have these issues that I didn't even realize before. And now, I do so I like that she started to talk about it. But you're right. All of a sudden Theresa was like, yeah. Well, that's my daughter needs my daughter's need their father. And it's was saying was saying, you know, so like there it is again, the Theresa show it is her show. Show. I love when she also just like get so fired up, and she's just playing with that long ponytail to like, you could just tell what she's getting angry she reaches right for when all that. And we still haven't even seen Danielle come out yet. It's true. So we have to talk next week about it. I mean, it's going to be crazy. Daniel gonna come out. I know the rest of the husbands are there too. So I feel like part three like what we've seen so far has already been so great. I can't even imagine how it's gonna end. All right. Let's talk about the real housewives of Beverly Hills. There is so much going on already and I can't help. But feel that there is this dark cloud. That's just lingering over everything. Like, even if they're off in the Bahamas, and it sunny, and it's like bathing, suits, and joy and laughter. Like, you still can really really feel. I feel like Lisa's grief through the whole thing. Yes. But it's I feel like it's also not just the grief. Right. It's this whole Doritos situation. I think maybe what you're trying to get at is that I had the thought while I was watching this episode of has Lisa ever really liked Doritos. She definitely has in my opinion because last season at the reunion. I even the this is clip that lives on the site. Lisa is basically pleading to the audience give your eat another chance because Jerry is a very divisive housewife. And I think Lisa was sensing that this was even when they had sort of tough season last season. And she was standing up for her. So I do think she loves to repeat, but I think something has shifted with the whole Lucy Luci, apple juice situation, apple juice. I didn't know her full name until now that was name of the first episode God. And I will say teddy said it best in her blog last week. Which is she kind of said if Lisa Vander pump is really upset at the idea that dorito gave this dog to someone else without talking to her. She said that's fair given how much Lisa Vanna pump loves dogs. I get why she would be pissed the issue is she isn't saying, I'm still pissed. She's saying to read to everyone else. I don't wanna talk about it. I'm over it. But then it's constant jabs toward juried and constant meddling Russian lower. No, that's true. And I mean, I think that behavior we have seen it in the past. And like to your point that Lisa has come to. Berates defense before and then pleading with people like except her you know, I do care about her. Like, I feel like it is part of Lisa's nature to sort of poke fun at people. But I feel like maybe now she's using this dog situation to really unleash how she's always kind of felt about to re-. Maybe it's always been there. And we've seen that in the past with her being like, the only reason I'm friends with you is because I'm friends with your husband do like, well that hurts my feelings. And then Lisa kinda takes it back a little bit later. But like is this just actually unearthing the real feelings that Lisa has for? That's what I'm thinking. Well, bigger question for you is is Lisa Renos theory. Correct. That Lisa Vander pump masterminded this plan in his behind the scenes telling people Cape, we're going to be filming. So make sure to bring out Lucy Lucy, apple juice and to say the story. That's what Lisa Renna is intimating. Right. And that she's. Is telling Kyle and teddy. She Lisa vinter pumped us ac- used you to to do Hertie work. Right. You have to see what part you're playing in this because you've had some stuff with read. And so have you, and they gave you that piece of information because she doesn't take responsibility for it. She's doling it out. So she can go. Oh, what's talk? Talk talk about it. I wanna talk about it. She just set you all up. The whole thing was set up to make look bad all Easter Vander. Pump wants to do is punish three about the dog. She can't do it. So she had those boys. Do it. Can't fatty injury. It is like Fanta pump one on one. And I know she's going to say. Foale never might fall victim. Will whether or not that is the case. I am just so grateful for Lisa Rena and her stirring, the pot because she is just so good at it. Like the second. She comes into their hotel room. And she sorta sits down and kind of just like launches right into like. Well, someone tell me what's going on. I'm like, yes. Tell rent and what's going on like this is going to start everything. And I was just waiting for that moment. And as soon as like, she learns about what's going on over in his that's it least is the mastermind I figured it out. Like Lisa has her own theory about what's going on and kind of just like launches right into that. Do I actually think that Vander pump? You know, went through and masterminded this whole thing. Probably not I think it's sort of like goes back to John blizzard. Who was who spoke to teddy about the situation initially. I think it was probably one of those like little gossipy moments where he was like, you'll never believe like what happened at banner pump dogs Bubba, blah, knowing that teddy new Doritos and would like be able to sort of like commiserate with him on the situation. Do I think Vander pumps? Set him up to do that. I don't know. Here's why I disagree with you. Teddy set in her blog last week or the week before she and John aren't actually that good of friends, and she was surprised to when he texted her. Okay. But also if we just look at the history of houses of Beverly Hills in season four brandy Glanville tolls. Kyle Richards on that trip. They took to Dominican. She said. Lisa Vander pump put a tabloid in my bag. It was it was back when there were tabloid rumors that Maria was cheating on Kyle Vander pump put it in. My bag told me to bring it on this trip. And I didn't Lisa vanterpool denied it season. Six Lisa Renna accuses Lisa Vander pump of kind of masterminding this whole Munchhausen's conversation season nine we have the dog. You have come with the receipts. I am impressed all of these. You know, there's no smoke without fire. Right. Okay. So going off of that theory. Then I could almost see that. Perhaps Lisa was setting up the situation. Maybe given what she's going through? She's lost a little bit of that like gumption and ability to sort of keep track of everything that's going on. And that's why she gives me. I don't wanna talk about. I don't wanna talk about it. 'cause maybe she lit the match. But like now the fires out of control. And she's like, I don't have the like emotional capacity at the moment to like keep this going or as some of the ladies have been hinting at in their blog. She's saying I don't wanna talk about it because she wants to look like she's not getting her hands dirty. But I don't know. I don't know either. Is that is a pretty big accusation? It's very conspiracy theory while I think if anything next week's episode is going to help give us some clarity on the situation because we're going to get the receipts that we saw in the super cheese the texts. Yes. And it seems like it's going to catch. I think teddy in a bit of a lie. Maybe I don't know what it is. I because I remember when we read them when the teaser, I came out we were trying to figure out who the texts were between, and it sounded like it could be teddy and Renna or we weren't really sure who it was. Maybe teddy and Kyle. But now, I think it's definitely teddy and John it could. Yes, being girl. Wait till you find out what I heard, you know. So I think maybe you're right. And I think that will actually yes, you're right because Ken says I got the texts from him. So it's definitely going to. I think opened up a whole new can of worms next week and will probably bring a little bit more clarity those situation. Just all of this talk about Lisa and the way that she's treating everyone, and it sort of sounds a lot like what we were talking about earlier with Theresa and sort of the situation that she's dealing with Joe and the deportation. Like is is it just these two women are pushed to the edge emotionally. And so that they're taking it out on the people around them that perhaps they care about the most. I mean, I guess if you're suggesting Theresa cares about Melissa. The MO well, that's true. That's true. I mean, maybe it's not even care, you know, family. So it's sort of like, I think another thing with Theresa. She just can get away with. Treating most of that way because they are related, but I think there's more repercussions for someone like Lisa Vander pump because Duri is like a friend. And it's like, you know, she knew her through PK so taking it out on Torri is almost like worse than taking it out on a family member because sort of like families family, but like Duri is sort of like she really didn't mean anything by this and Lisa's kind of not letting go totally on a lighter note. I wanna talk about Denise Richards, because she keeps being almost my favorite part of every episode so far she's like the comedic relief. And she's kind of the realist I feel like it was teddy last season. But it's definitely Denise this season where she's just like, what am I wearing? And are these people showing up to dinner wearing like this is insane? Pretty. My God, those shorts is so cute. Walking into someone's hotel room for drinks. I was just not expecting to be so fancy seculow often. Pack wrong. I learned that quickly. Here's the thing. Like, I feel like Denise given the fact that she's been in the industry for really long time. Like, I kind of did expect her to step it up a little bit in. I granted, you know, she was like over having drinks on the patio like first night. It's ten o'clock like nobody's going to be dressed up. But like she really did not know what she was getting into. And she shows up those cute little shorts and like a little tank top. Which of course, anyone in their right mind would wear when it's probably like eighty degrees there. Now, it's totally appropriate with any other grew right in any other situation. But then you are comparing it to Erica chains nine foot long ponytail, which she refers to as a person can get wet ringer out. It's true. So going back to Denise and just kind of like as we get to know her more, I really appreciated the moment that she did have with Lisa Vander pump. When they went off to get the massages while the rest of the girls were kind of out in the water doing their own thing having fun in that private island. And we really started to learn more about Denise and her daughter that she adopted which just recently kind of come out in the press thing she had spoken to people about it just a couple of weeks ago. So I really like that we're learning more about Denise personal life because four so long. I think she was caught up in those tabloid things with her ex husband and everything. So it's kind of interesting now to see really who she is as a person, and I think she really started to open up to Lisa Vanda pumping. I really like that. I like that. That's what you were focusing on because the whole time. I was like two niece Richards looks so GD beautiful right now, she had no makeup on her hair's must but I'm just like I could kiss her. She's so beautiful absolute another where few moments while watching the episode that Danny and I were both kind of like, oh my God. Like, she. Is gorgeous coming out of the water. We've seen that from the super tease too. But like she really is just a beautiful woman. Yes. But I'm really excited that she sort of getting in the mix we see her just a little bit at that final dinner starting to get involved in the conversation because a lot of people at the table, including Camille don't even know what anyone is talking about. So like, I liked the moment you mentioned she's kind of like, you know, comedic relief, and she leans over. And she's like what's everyone talking feels like something with a dog? I don't know. And like, no one, they don't really know. But then towards the end of the conversation once people start getting a little more upset, and whatever she kind of interjects, and like, well, it sounds like your employees. Did something wrong. You know? So she starts to sort of get her opinion out. There should never file has anyone? Your employees should never said anything. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think. I have no idea because something as she learns more about how these women are and how they treat each other. We're going to see a lot more of her opinion coming out and I'm excited to see that same. We have a lot of things in common. We love the housewives. We live in New York City. We also both have really good hair. That's true. Good hair. The doesn't come without maintenance. You know, not everyone knows I used to be a beauty editor before I found. My true calling. Bravo. So I'm pretty picky when it comes to beauty products, specifically hair products in I am into function of beauty there. 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And now we get Kristen talking about it with stocky all the work in the relationship, and it's the same pattern of every single nine when he's screaming warning personally isn't won't dogs and I'm a bitch. And you don't need to be screaming. And I learned now that you don't actually have to be screamed at ever you. Don't like you can be in a relationship where somebody just loves you and wants to be around you, and is happy all the time to be around you and lifts you up and supports. You doesn't demand that you pay for everything doesn't demand that you take care of everything there is a relationship out there for you that you deserve behind. Hind Kristen's crazy nature is one of the most wonderful people I've ever met. And I just feel like she deserves to be with somebody who appreciates that about her and gives her that love back. Kristen doesn't feel like she's lovable and that really breaks my heart. Is so hard for me to watch this because I was in that relationship, and I learned the hard way. It's hard. It's sad. It's it's just like I feel the need to defend it because it's not all the time. Like, I just want things if you gotta get it's like, I have a teenage son playing video games basement sometimes, and I don't think Carter's trying hard enough because he knows he has a badge asleep at night and apartment to wake up in the morning girlfriend is gonna take care of him. You should wake up and have someone be. So cited to be around you. I'm excited to be around you. I really loved that. Kristen started to open up. And I thought that everything saw sea was saying to her was so important, and she was obviously coming from a place of experience, and you could tell just in the waste Aussies voice was and the way she was expressing it that like she was really trying to drill it into Kristen like you deserve better. Like, you can get better. Like, I know what it feels like to be with someone who doesn't treat you. Well, or says that you know, they don't pull their weight or whatever it was. And it was just I think it really beautiful moment that like two friends need to have sometimes especially if they see someone that they care about a relationship that feels unhealthy. There's this show on Netflix. Everyone should watch. It's called dating around. And in this episode this woman's on a blind date and the person is like, well, what went wrong in your last relationship? And she says at the end of the day. I was just asking this person to be kind to me any couldn't. And it was just wanna cry. I know, but it's so true in this instance, like what they're talking about. Is you just need someone who's going to be nice to you? And makes you feel like they want you around which starchy clearly has found in bo-, absolutely gun. I feel like you know, stocky has seen the light with bow. And she's like, oh my God. Right. This is what it means to be in a nurturing healthy relationship with someone who's going to lift you up and not bring you down and not wake up in the morning, and be instantly aggravated with you because like what's walking the dogs or something that Kristen talks about? So I really loved that moment. And I hope that we see. Kristen kind of like come out of this relationship, a stronger person if even ending we don't even really know where this relationship is going at this point in the season. So I'm curious to see how it ends up. Well, and if we've learned anything from watching Kristen's other relationships on Vana pump rules, she does a slow burn break. It's not gonna be swift and quick it's very true. But I wonder if like, you know, she starts to recognize what she deserves if her animosity towards James will go away if you know, her relationship with Carter will get better. I think it starts with the Kristen on the inside too. And whether these guys are involved or not is sort of a little bit up to her. But were you confused when we're at this party in Santa Monica that Carter seems pretty. I don't know. Not. It's like we've been hearing about this person that starts the and everyone else's describing in. That's not really who. I'm seeing he's not saying anything outlandish. It's true. I wonder what we're not seeing when the cameras aren't there? But you guys will also hear later on that Tom Sandoval talks about like I like Carter. He's a good guy. You know, I can't speak to certain things. But so you're right. We're not really seeing a lot of the issues that perhaps Kristen and Carter are having. But I do get a vibe of him. That's a little bit like passive aggressive. Maybe not super mature, you know. And I think at a certain point he might not even think that he's behaving a certain way. Because perhaps Kristen let's get away with it. You know? And I think he I don't know. Maybe he is just kind of sitting around and playing video games all day. And she's like can you walk the dog? And he's like, no. But like when he's out in public. He might be putting on a different front. Then when it's just the two of them at home. I don't know it's hard because we haven't really seen that my shoes are the Barkan me. And that you raise your voice cuss. And I've said this therapy. I've said this to you. It's just like the shortlist of whatever, dude. Honey, you come home. The first thing that you do is basically bitch at me up twenty thirty minutes about something that happened about your day. I'm having a bad day your boyfriend. Yes. Sometimes to do a lot. We're going to disagree. And I'm okay with that. But you're not that's what we do. That's what we do as soon as you accept that fact. I was going to work. Just tell me that everything has been great. And they haven't been fighting. It's like your way of highway, and that's not how it works, especially when I'm running most. I think either way it's not a great sign that you're sitting at a friend's party having these issues like hashing them out, definitely. That's not where those conversations should be happening. I mean, you know, at least other people were witness to it. So that if at some point, you know, later on the party Kristen gets upset like Katie knows why Katie saw that conversation happening. So you never know what direction Kristen could go. So at least somebody has a little context as to what unfolded that day. Of course, the most shocking relationship news was LA and rand breaking up. I got home, and I just feel like Randan I are not the same. And I basically gave up alcohol for him because it was like the way I was acting was just not okay. And then I come home to what he's doing. It's like. That I came home from Seoul, bang and saw Randall had partied to the point where he doesn't even know his own main. You're slurring your words that doesn't work for LA, especially when I'm up in solving with a wine, and I'm not drinking any of it or you during tonight. I'm not drinking, and this is what you're doing. Are. You kidding me? I feel betrayed because we made a pact. This is a hard time for me. And I need my partner. I need my soul mate. And I need someone to back me up claims that it's because I've been very very very unloving in harsh the past week. Well, I felt really bad for LA LA at the very beginning of the episode because you know, we were talking earlier on Beverly Hills dealing with grief like you really saw how it's affecting LA LA as well. And that it sort of one of those things where it kinda just hits you at different times, you know, like one minute Lalas like yes, girls trip. Like here, we go PJ. Yes. And then all of a sudden, you know, like when she's there on this trip like something we'll just happen, and it will sort of trigger that grief for her. And we really saw her open up and kind of talk about that. So she's already going through a lot when it comes to losing her father. And then when she gets back from the trip she finds rand in this whole like post party situation where she's like, well, wait a minute. Like, I thought we're in this together. Okay. It's weird. Because I mean, she really went in on him in a way. I mean, really detailing what happened up to this point. He's been perfect. Right. According to her so to hear that not only was he wasted beyond measure when she got home. But as soon as she said, I can't do this anymore. He's took, you know, Gucci slides that he gave her which is just the most petty immature thing. Kept my Gucci slides like took them from me. And was like I want you to remember. You want my fides? Take them take. Now in real time. We know they're engaged. It's like why you don't tell your mom really bad things about an ex in case you get back together. So it's like now he can't put the toothpaste back in the two. We know what he can be like when he's not nice Lalla mentions that like he sort of blames LA LA and the way she had behaved the past week for like, well, this is why partied, you know, because you were behaving this way. So I went and got wasted. And it's sort of like that's not a very mature perspective to have. And then to also take away the Gucci's slippers, or whatever it was like come on lame lame. And then, you know, I think maybe it's just a little bit that the both of them are not the most mature because I don't know if law was saying it just out of like anger in the moment because it was a fresh break-up. But when she sort of like, listen, I can go suck some other dick for flight on a private jet. If I want to I was sort of like, ooh, guess what? Honey, there's a lot of dick out there for me to suck to get on PJ. Like, no matter what I can still live. Yeah. You just need to have a mouth baby. It doesn't matter. What? Well, that leads into my rose, but I'm going to save. Okay. I don't think she actually means. But you're right in anger. You just say a lot of things will speaking of anger. We get the season tees also this week. And there is a lot going on with. I guess Tom Sandoval in Katie. Yes. So we asked Tom Santa about that field with Katie as well, as you know, how tomtoms going what's happening in his life. A lot of good things. And basically all his thoughts on the drama thus far. Everyone here with Tom Sandoval. How are you? I'm great. How you doing good? How does it feel to have the best bar in LA amazing? It's been it's been a heck of a week. We did family feud on Sunday. Yeah, we did celebrity family feud against John legend and Chrissy Teigen. And then was Cal chance birthday party, which is always a big big deal. And then we closed on our house got the keys or how someone's day and then Thursday went to an awards ceremony for the for that for the best barn LA got award. And then, you know, my brothers visiting and we're your New York we just saw Hamilton last night. So basically there is in your life. That is going wrong. I can't I can't complain. I can't complain. Well, then what's next for you guys? I don't know we got we got a furnish the house. You know, we pretty much have a mattress, and and, you know, a TV in a couch, and that's pretty much. Yeah. I don't want to bring any of my stuff from the apartment in there because I've had it for so long. It's like, you know, fresh start. Yeah. Where is the apartment house in valley village? Okay. And then you know, we're coming from West Hollywood. So it's you know, it's like twenty minutes. Fifteen twenty minutes drive to Tom, Tom. Well, fli. So you're a valley guy. Now, I'm valley guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. A farewell to the apartment though, as fans we've spent so much time there actually there is going to. I'm definitely gonna have a couple of farewell parties for sure. And you know, Jeremy is actually staying there. Oh, that's keeping it in. The helps me helps my seperation anxiety still knowing that I can go there. Yeah. So this season has been amazing. But we just watched the season super teas and were blown away. You have sort of an epic. I don't know showdown with Katie. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was that was pretty intense. Wow. Yeah. I think we, you know, there were just feelings that were kind of like building motions kind of building up. And you know, what happens? What happens on Vana pumpers? Okay. Well, I want to give you a chance to maybe defend yourself. If you want because people are going to say, how could he not support Kadian that moment? I don't have any of my friends back on conditionally. And I don't expect them to have my back on conditionally. I love Katy. I love Schwartz. I love all my friends. But you know, that's the thing with when you love somebody is you know, that the opposite of love is not hate. It's indifference, you know. So you you can't be truly angry at somebody. I feel like emotionally if you don't love them in a sense, you know, and that's I feel like one of the biggest things about our show is that we know each other. So well, so like when things get a little crazy. They get really crazy. What was it the trigger the argument? I don't exactly know. Because a lot happens when we're filming and that was a little while ago and seen it yet. But I'm sure there was something said or whatever, and it was a conversation that needed to be had. And I felt like it needed to be had way before it did because it kind of built up in in my mind. And so by that point, I was like I just had a lot of frustration built up when I should've just nipped in the butt right away. I feel like did it have anything to do with James? Yeah. I mean that was part of it. You know? I mean, obviously, you're gonna see it when it comes when it comes on. I don't wanna spoil everything. But yeah, definitely had to James and had to do with other things. And and things that have happened in the past that I feel like I didn't bring up, you know, you do seem totally supportive of James. I mean, do you feel like he still on a good path right now? Well, you know, what's funny about James that I've noticed as yes, he's he's must have a lot of times. But he also Apollo. Sizes a lot. So it's it's like, you know, everybody there's times where everybody feel like is screwing up on a regular basis. But the difference is they don't apologize often. You know what I mean? So, you know. I think James. He's great TV. But it that way. But it, but he, you know, he gets very triggered any loses control of his emotions any gives people that power a lot. And I feel like he really needs to work on that. You know, you're giving your allowing somebody to get you to that point. That's actually negatively affecting your life. You know, crystal was like really good at it. Even when they were together, I mean, which by the way that was like the most toxic relationship on the planet them together was like literally the perfect storm. Like, oh my gosh. But you know, she would get banned from pomp, and sir like when they were together because she would show up, and it was like a trigger for him. And then, you know, create causes scene. We have been discussing this a lot. What is it about? James? Do you think that makes Kristen still so crazy? You don't I'm not in Kristen's had. So I don't know. But I mean, it seems like at times I mean, obviously time has passed. This season. Maybe she's a different space. I think Chris over the years has come a long way since you know, from where she was before. But I don't know. It seems weird to me like usually when people get that worked up it's because they've recently broken up, but they've been broken up for like two years or something like year and a half. So I don't I don't understand. I don't get it. Is it weird for you to see Kristen, Arianna chummy? Now, it's kind of surreal. I never thought that would I never I didn't think that would ever happen. Yeah. It's kinda crazy. Yeah. They are. They are pretty chummy. They're like the text each other. They're like hang out. Yeah. I know so weird. So it's not just because like they're forced because of no. Actually out actually. That's awesome. Yeah. They've both come a long way. Well, speaking of Kristen are you close with Carter? Yeah. I think Carter is awesome. Really cool. We went went snowboarding about a month ago together had a blast. But yeah, I think he's a great guy. He's really good for Kristen. You know? I don't know some of you know, I don't pry to deep. So I don't know everything going on. I know I know they've hit some rough spots, whatever. But I liked them together. I think they're great together. And I I wish nothing but the best for that. So we're getting closer and closer to Jackson Brittany's wedding. How are you feeling about it? I feel great about it. I hadn't you know. It was funny. It's not that. I like question, you know, his love for her anything. I just I hadn't talked to him. You know, he's one of my best friends. I hadn't really talked about it. And then literally were meeting up with you know, him Cal Chan's office. And he's like, yeah. I'm doing this. Tomorrow's what like I was. And I didn't know obviously jacks went through a lot when that passed away. And I didn't know if maybe, you know, his some of the decisions he was making maybe based off like something emotionally. You know what I mean? Like, I I just I just wanted to talk to him and just, you know, make sure that this head and heart was in the right place. And I feel that it definitely is. You know, I feel like his priorities of change. He values friendships evaluators relationship more which back in the day. He would almost consider like expendable. We saw how boys night went are there plans for a bachelor party. Well, the funny thing is I feel like there's a lot of pressure actually a lot of pressure to deliver. But. On one hand, I feel like Jackson tire life has been as bachelor party. So I mean like I feel like we can maybe use like a little like quiet time for for him. Spa day, something relaxing, you know, maybe some sort of I think bachelor party should have some sort of adventure or activity. That's like brings the group together. So I'm trying to figure that one out what about solving solving. There you go. Jackson. I I don't know exactly where we're going. He had mentioned a couple of places. Yeah. Do you guys like are changing so much going through this period of life? Where all these big moments are happening for you. Do you ever internally worry it's going to be interesting for people? I do actually but. I find that. I mean. I every season of our show. I'm like, wow. There's no way we're going to build a top that there's no way we're going to be able to top that. And every recumbent and it's like always good season. One is better than the next. You know, I yeah. I I'm not really too worried. Not what this group. Yeah. I know it is amazing like this season is so interesting and good. And I just as a fan we can't get enough. So awesome. Love hearing that. Yeah. Yeah. It's been one of the weirdest things adjusting to as well. I I guess initially with being on a show. Like, this is how interested people are in like all your I feel some Monday details. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I don't know. It's too much pressure. I can't think of anything fan. But you know, if you could go back and say something to like your season oneself. What would you say? I think I would say. You know when we first. I think I would say just relax beyond be open and be involved. You know? Yeah. Did you ever imagine? You'd be here where you are with Tom, Tom and everything that's going on. No. I mean, I hoped I always hoped them like one day one they wanna get howls do this. But you know, when it actually happens. It's just be always always take time to just sit back and just reflect in you know, appreciate where where we're at in life. You know, all all of us on the cast never taken for granted. Yeah. Absolutely. Are you guys involved at all with Lisa Vander pumps cocktail garden? No. That's her on. Okay. That's her her and Caesar's palace partnership. I'm excited to see it though. It's coming up. Yes. We'll be opening sane. Yeah. Do you feel now like you guys are on a similar plain field? No. Sure, she would say the same thing. I mean, obviously, she's you know, she's older than me. She's have way more time to get towards she's at she's very successful. And her Encana are, you know? Obviously, you know, amazing business, you know, people flange repes-, you know, but I see myself on on that route. You know, I look up to them a lot, and I would love to be whether at so I'm continuing to move forward. And we'll probably have some more Tom locations. Really? Yeah. You think you'd leave L A to open. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. I'm fact, they'll be you know, you'll you'll probably be hearing something soon. New york. He is here. I'll give you. I'll give you head. You never forget where you came from Solomona say. Okay. Okay. Interesting. Thank you so much. Megan. I know you get annoyed every morning when I text you asking what I should wear to work. But do well that's just because I you always look so stylish and I'd like when we coordinate stop. I mean, I am pretty stylish. But sometimes I want to be comfortable too. And the good news is that with beta brand, comfy and work appropriate. 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So we talked to her a little bit about where she and Theresa Sanjay where she stands with the rest of the girls. Plus how the family is coping with Joe's potential deportation. So here's that interview. So we are here with milissa Gorgon from real house is ado jersey. Hey, what's up guys not much? How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I got my sour patch kids. I'm like, you know, ready to go ready to go. Right. Well, another season down. Another reunion part. One was a lot of Margaret and Jennifer Theresa Jackie. And then part to you and Theresa got into it about the sister situation, we do. So what do you think she meant what she said when she was sort of like, what do you think she meant by her reaction? I don't know. I'm still freaking confused about it to be honest. It definitely took me back a little bit. I was like I was in shock over like a lot of things she said because I had just seen her a couple of days before, and we were fine, and we had dinner together. So I was very taken back, and I have to say it was a little insulted because I feel like we've come so far. So if you're going to like sucker punch me or sites white me like give me a heads up at this point earlier in the season. We saw you and Joe and Teresa kind of sit down and sort of like come to terms, and like right sort of move past it a lot. A little bit. So what do you think has changed since? Then I don't know. My my guess is good as yours. Jackie. I do think that she is annoyed that I see Jackie side more than I see her side with this or that I'm evening defending Jackie a little bit. But I'm so sick of the double standard because Theresa defense Danielle on everything she does Theresa defended. Jennifer when she threatened me and broke glass in front of my face. So if I defend try to explain what Jackie meant by something. She was saying I'm going to do that. I am no longer going to sit back and be like, okay. I don't wanna insult nobody. Like, I'm not going to do that. I I'm gonna speak my truth. That's how I felt if Jackie was wrong. I would say Jackie you're wrong. Even though I love Jackie. So that's how I felt I didn't see Theresa like screaming at Jennifer saying don't don't threaten my sister-in-law. Like, she didn't do that. Right. So I'm just sick of the double standards, and I'm just not here for it anymore, and everyone's just going to have to deal with the new Melissa because I'm really. Frigging sick of it all Melissa. So where do you guys stand right now? I mean, how are things at the moment. We're fine. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. There was a little tension after the reunion. I just was like leave me alone. I don't want to speak for like a couple of days. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like I get annoyed. I'm like, I'm insulted. I was a little insulted. I'm like, we're family man, if you had like something going on. And you wanted to talk about it like, why did you wait till we sat right on the couch next to Andy like even Andy looked confuse. He was looking at me cross eyed wasn't happening here. I'm like, I don't I don't know. I don't know. Like I like everybody was confused which I didn't like because I'm like we've come so far. Like don't sucker punch me come on like you little sneak that so we're coming towards the end of a really tough road with Joe, and Theresa and she admits last night at the reunion that she may not stay with Joe when he's deported. Right. How is the family kind of coping with that? The girls are not obviously the girls are going to be extremely upset. I think that's a given. I think it's known. I think everybody doesn't know the end game right now. Nobody knows what's going to happen. But everybody's praying for the best. So you're looking to perhaps expand your family a little bit. Where are you in the journey of finding your sister? You know, what I did the twenty three and me, and I feel like if it's meant to be in this girl is out there. She's going to also do it. And if she thinks it might has an inkling like that, my father is her father. She'll do it. She'll do the test and I'll find her eight elephants meant to be. It's meant to me. And if not like, I'm not gonna look any further into it other than I did the test. If she happens to catch a glimpse of the real housewives of New Jersey, if somebody says to her, hey that good-looking talion guy that your daddy is awesome list. Gorka Zad like get the tests going and somebody pops up. That's my sister will then we have a situation, you never know. I'm not really gonna walk around like scream for her on the street. Right. Absolutely of close. Well, we have your fortieth birthday coming. Got to do this. Do you have any plans? That allowed to be said. Oh, yes. I wanna go to Capri. Yeah. Tano I'm actually booking this weekend. Okay. Joe basically said like I told him. That's what I wanna do. I just wanna be impacted to Italy. And that's what we're doing sounds amazing. Yeah. So I have to say my favorite moment of the season. Was you got the wrong girl? You got the wrong girl. Absolutely Howard things with you and Jennifer now, they're fine. Listen, she's like, you know, you have to take Jennifer for like what she's worth she did threaten me. But and she was drunk, and I think she's so new to the game in the situation. And like just like, I don't think she like, I don't think she really meant it. But the way she looked at me with those is very threatening. And for me, it wasn't like like, I didn't even think twice. It was my instant reaction. And that's who I am listen, I'm pretty level headed in most relations. But you're not gonna stare me at the is and brick glass in front of my face and think I'm not gonna come around and try to pull the hair out of your head because I'm going to try to of course, you know. Thank you so much, Melissa. I know you have to get going. Thank you for coming in. And we're so excited to see the next part of the reunion. So this is like the juicy season ever. I swear it's been an amazing season. Okay. Thank you. All right. So let's get into Rosenthal warn. Okay. Let's do rose and thorn this week with special because I have rose thorn in question. But first, what's your rose? My rose this week is Raquel from Mexican dynasties, but more specifically recalls, beautiful condo that she owns because it reminded me of at least Elliott's from first wives club Kasit were just so many pictures of like Raquel everywhere like painted, Andy Warhol like pop art, ask pictures of her everywhere. And plus she just seems like such a majestic woman. I feel like her being compared to the like Joan rivers of Mexico like I'm just so excited to see what she's going to be like the season. I'm glad you brought up Mexican dynasties. Because honestly, it may be my favorite new show in a long time. Oh, I love this show. Just so fresh and new I I don't you guys have to watch it. That's all I'm gonna say, it's really. Good. So if you guys haven't heard of Mexican dynasties, it's airing after real house of Beverly Hills every Tuesday at ten nine central so check it out. So what is your rose? So going back to van pump rules and LA LA saying, you know, I can there's plenty of other dick out there for me to suck them. Brittany gives this great one liner, not probably what have been where my head went. I at least laws optimistic about the future. This really draw like right away. What's your thorn? My thorn this week is when Andy asks Jennifer at the real house is of New Jersey reunion, have you had sex with somebody before Bill, and she sorta pleads the fifth and doesn't really answer. And I understand her answer where she sort of like, well, I don't think that's appropriate to say because I married and like I'm not going to answer that everyone sort of like, okay and DeLores that's fine. But my issue with that is she has no problem. You know, throwing all this shade at Margaret and Marge senior for the affairs that they're having an all these sort of things, but it's sort of like, okay? But the line is then drawn that you're allowed to have marriage sex before marriage, but like loud to do this. So it's just like seeing these funny blurred lines between where people's like moral standing is especially that she felt comfortable enough to say Bill tried taking his penis out. And try to like bunnies. Right. So I see what you're saying. I guess it's okay. To talk about your husband 'cause you're married. So I do understand that I really do understand where she's coming from. And I appreciate that answer of hers. But it sort of like the new can't come for other people about their little discrepancies as well. What was your thorn? Some my Thorin was in real houses of Beverly Hills. When Lisa Vander pump says to Erica. You just wrote me a few lines after my brother died, and I would've expected more. This is what I wrote to her do. Lisa, Tom, and I were saddened to hear of your brother marks passing. Lease know that our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this difficult time since era it is always important to have an insurance policy when you're dealing with someone that slippery Erica. You didn't send me a text. Halted. I'm sorry about paying dot. Picture. The no. It was going to be an issue. You come see. Did. I could not believe it. Because here's the thing. When you see someone going through a loss. Inside. I'm sure you've felt this this sort of panic of like how myspace to react in this moment because everyone's different right? So you don't know if you need to be there up in someone's face, like letting them know, you're there for them. Or if you should just be aware, but distant and it totally confirmed. My greatest fear that like someone is judging me when I'm trying to navigate how to help them. You know? Absolutely. I really was so uncomfortable with that whole situation, and that conversation was really hard to watch because I was very much on Erica side. Because I feel like what she did. She felt like was just enough and was like the right thing to do. I don't wanna get too much in her space on it wanted text. I don't wanna call her like, I don't, you know, she's probably getting flooded with other people and people reaching out, you know. So I understand what she was doing. And I think it just was so crazy that she had the receipts to well. That's the thing. The fact that Erica felt the need to take a photo of that card before she sent it. That speaks volumes. And I don't think she's ever likely savannah pump. If I'm being honest because she said in her first season, I think Lisa Vander pump is a sniper from the sky. And I think she has always purposefully stayed pretty distant from Vander pump. Right, right. I mean, they seem to come to a resolution at the end, and I think. I think it's Renna who says at one point that like grief affects everyone differently. And I think it was maybe just Lisa trying to be like I wish you had been there for me. And whether Lisa was right or wrong. I think Erica should have just let her speak her mind. Like, I'm sorry. I did what I thought was right? And kinda just move past it because at the end of the day. It's just Lisa's still grieving her brother. But if Lisa has considers Erica that close of friend. I think they need to like clear that up between each other because it doesn't seem like they're super close. But Lisa seems to feel like they are. All right. Well, so we did my Rosen thorn. But I have my question. Okay. What is a wind Boehner? So I thought that was pretty funny when Bo brought that up because I think he was just trying to be like playful, and whatever and that sort of his sense of humor. I mean, there's not really like a situation I think where like altitude affects that. And so it's kind of maybe that's just like his biology does. But I do understand like, you know, if you're wearing pajamas on a plane, and you fall asleep. There's control what could happen when you're a sleep. You know, that's the whole thing with like that. So I feel like he was more along the lines of like a wind Boehner isn't necessarily like happening because you're in an airplane on your flying at high altitude. But if you fall asleep on the plane who's to say what could happen congrats through that whole answer without Saint penis one. I know right. It was like if I was on watch what happens and that was like the word of the day, or whatever totally missed it. This was fun. We didn't get to talk. About real housewives of Atlanta because it was not on. But it'll be back next week. And there's a lot to talk about this episode is crazy can't wait by guys. Hi, let's keep the conversation going. We wanna talk to you all week long. Not just Thursdays. 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We were doing we're just like to do our warm staff, and I was like no one's here. And it felt so sad. So thank you for being that we I mean, so we were here like a year ago in Boston. I remember correctly. You guys were all crazy in the best way. So we are excited for tonight. I'm starting with two gigantic doubles. Yeah. I've learned that Boston can keep up. So so good to see you guys here. So beautiful here. My god. I've been thrown in the water all day rebelling. Yeah. Good for you. Sales tax. Good bits. Yeah. It's very very exciting. We're also really excited because I think this is the first time we've gotten a chance to do a live show recap of real house. Beverly Hills about the. Whoa. I didn't even realize that I have to apologize to the side of the stage. Yeah. You guys my packing. I got my stuff back from like only luxury. Life is calling sunny clean because they come pick up my laundry for my house because I have a scooter, and I get it back in this really nice. So we've been traveling a lot. So now, I just I'm like khaki it's old. Maybe right. And it's all I already know all so I just grabbed you things one pair accidentally skinny jeans. So I'm waddling around like, I'm only moving my hips. I cannot drop things and I just look at people until they pick it up. Thank you for being such a good pick up something for. Yeah. He's been like my Ken all day like. Some. Then right now, I went pee. And I, you know, sit might be 'em. I've headed back, and I think my jeans are so tight that they squeeze my Weiner, more and more came out extra little extra sub sand. So anybody saw he's it was a piece body water. And then the other pair of pants. I bought are those stupid. Maybe I don't even know what they're thinking elastic on the heels. So now, they're like pirate pants. So I'm gonna look crazy. Both shows in Boston. Yeah. We're all here to support you. Thank you. Yeah. No judgment here. But anyway, the point is my crack is killer. If I my answer barely coming on at all. I've got I've got light. But cracks year, which I'm showing off hanging through the end. I feel the air on it through the edge of the channel disgusting. The point is. The point is I've been heard. Shots through the heart. But who's to blame? You give friendship a bad knee. Oh, you guys by the way, unfortunately because of all the traveling. We are not able to cover summer house this week, but we can tell you real quickly. What happened? This is what happened watch summer. Go watch summer house. The entire cast of release of Andhra pumped. So this is what happened on summer house this week? Okay. All. Manda. Oh, man. Gents? I have some very serious news. I have to break to all of you little hard for me to say. I got like a. So it's gonna be because I don't have a job. And then they figure out that summer Fridays. Means I was fired. Yeah. Currently, which is now Carl's running thing. He's always fired. Right. The guy fired from his last one. Yeah. Always always. That's basically what happened on summer house, more or less girl. Fire sometime, we get an hour out of that shit every week and. We have to talk about summer house. Nothing happens unless I've written down every single little thing. And I think back what happened on summer house. Literally, nothing nothing. They got Amazon prime packages. Okay. So now onto realize was. Liz and dump has been. So we opened real housewives of Beverly Hills. Where we came over there. Some Lisa not fans over there. I hear let's let's get a temperature. Let's get the temperature of the room. I okay who here is team, Lisa, Andropov. All right, good. When you hear people be less throw something at their face who your is team. Everyone else. Oh, wow. About us. Pretty good you divided. It's a room divided. Wow. All right. Well, I'll be team everybody else tonight. Just for fun. Okay. Exciting's boobs. Look gray perfect. They fit perfectly. They must have cost a lot of money. You feel I love a boob girl. I love a boo. Yeah. Okay. I'm not cut back to the drama of last week on not going to say, I did I didn't. I did do a woman of integrity. I've been saying that all week. I'm a woman of integrity. Venti is cold and Sarah. I don't know if you if you could say your integrity and also higher Jax Taylor. I couldn't thrown to reach under the bus months ago, which she could have she did. But you know, but the way you throw someone under the bus in your manner profits such a nice ride. You know, it's not like a horse throwing of the bus. The bus comes trampling. You. I don't know. It's like when they pet a dog before I don't want to say put it down because that's like the story of this. But like what something else? I'm not sure if I'm following all I all I got to fuck saying it's not like a funky with the Jewish measures on the bus. Okay. Dorito? She is the bus, and she's herself, and she drives over herself. Okay. Well, you gotta have fractious for being under PK every man. And so again, either way who am I they talk. I just saw my own food peed on my. Pete on my. So we can hear more of what Kyle said van from. You too. And then Kyle's like, yeah. Well, it feels like in talking the radar. So it's just like feels like you've been talking radar. What can I say? It's in the air tonight. So Lisa lease. And you know, we don't ever give Lisa credit for her own. Good. Bye, Kyle which I think we should've used because Kyle. Turned goodbye Kyle into her own thing. I do not support that do not support that glimpse. Have the good? Viacom challenge on C had everybody all her friends taping park. All across the internet. And I thought it was pretty well. She also had I don't know if you saw this. She went on to like, Snapchat or Instagram and wrote like a whole thing about how saying goodbye Kyle was like her own personal journey because like. Yeah. You're real ramp of me. Great journey for you. Heard. And then I was walking by it. I thought just just own it like, okay? Relax was hilarious gives people were guessing that that's why she did it right to take it back because it was bowling. But then they're like, yeah. At least advantage fans are bullying back to be a strong up. God. All right. So twenty four hours later this later. Yeah. So the women all go to north Hollywood, which is in the valley, which I don't know if you guys have been to LA, but this is very off brand for Beverly Hills. I don't know what the Boston equivalent is of the valley. Does anyone know what the what the? I'm not gonna say it out loud because I don't wanna alienate listeners something we can all understand. It's like meeting it's like meeting for lunch to eat Swedish meatballs, Kia like what are what are you doing there? Take the flagging in baby. Yeah. Could you imagine trying to put together furniture for my? PK? I can't understand this Pohan right now. Souflias and Dirk and babe. Stanley wrench is he related to Shelley. So then twenty four hours later has founder new horrible hat to wear. I know the Carmen sandiego collection less. Twenty four hours later, the federal Carl's like you guys are not gonna believe what happened to me last night. I went to his house, and I said, I'm sorry. I just can't be your friend. Tell a lie. Get nuts. Yes. He can everyone can tell a lie. And especially in this. You don't even know the truth. That's what bothers me there the club tell the truth. What is the truth? Nobody knows nobody knows that famous French astronomer philosopher. Descartes? Nothing. Just today card joke. Same on. Fuck you're talking about Mike can I get some crayons for my menu. By the way. Can I bother someone for some Rosa, please? I'm a little thirsty. Straight for the roads bay. Rosa. So she's telling her big story. And then Camille is for whatever Camille forgets. What side she's on which doesn't really matter. I don't think you should have to pick sides something like this. But Camille is always picking sides. She's always picking them so strong while strongly Camille pick anything, you know, she's like you've always been in that. I do. Thank you. Grows as as a raw this is gonna help. This is going to help. This is what I've been waiting for. It's been so hard for here's. But when it comes to not being honest, not telling the truth, I'm not willing to do that. By the way, I showed you this from my store. Which is closed. It's true. I'm stating fact. Not a conspiracy theory all stores closed we closed that shit ourselves. That's what happens. That's your Bravo. Hell when you really fuck up on. Bravo, me and benja show up and store. Sorry Ilene, and I are closing your store. Okay. I feel like our store was doing really well until that time we actually went to it. And then after that they all just start to close up. Ause cast how the Shah's gas can clean shutdown every business. They eat lunch at we're like, let's go. Visit Kyle store closed. So so one day that drives me nuts about Kyle is how she owes act so defenseless in every situation. Right. She's like, oh, I feel bad that as a friend. I couldn't say no, I'm sorry. She would never be like this. I'm like, well, you could have just said sorry. No. She would never be like this all you had to say. But entire season. She's been like, oh, I've just been like stuck in the middle. And I don't know what to do. Like, you're the one is instigated entire situation. Kyle brought it at eighteen times. I told I told Rani before the show I'm going to try not to rant that much. And I'm already like, so what do I care to drink? So Karl tells us because they take themselves so seriously on the show, and I know that we're to queens, you talk about this for an hour and. As I just had an impassioned. I know but this. Twenty four hours before. And then. That quick fate. They down and things are really important. That's Kyle hat back there. I see that is that on purpose worrying worrying us. Yes. That could also double as Luanda writing scooter hat. So they do the flash on crowds face and she's like after two nieces wedding. We all thought Lisa Vander prompts issues with everyone were over until. To read found an article on lie. And the music by the way is so intense. I don't know if anyone heard this. It was really like we're watching twenty four the music. PK article too. Two. Discuss this Finland and picky. So then we get a clip of my favorite scene of the season. Where to re pretend that she's just reading this article for the first time online. Funny because they don't even during so stupid that she presses the button on her phone to find her phone. So you just you're like she's getting attacked. Yeah. Did you just get a text of the from radar online with this article? Loading. It's like, you know, in movies whenever they show the internet, and they're like got a load like this. That's not how the internet worse. So this clip of her reading the Texas so funny, she's like Kinsley. Did. Her mouth is so wide with. I love wonder he does that this really wide drop it off. That's an. Like, you're holding a bar of soap right now, you're not reading off your phone. So Karl tells us immediately because cows casting all up as if we haven't watched like eighteen hours of this. All ready. You know, she's like all the women assumed Vander behind it. And then we go back to clip, and she's not anyone. Shameful something. Like, you're a real Trevor project or yeah. I also like to Kyle complaining about Lisa Vander, bub. And she's like she always wants me to swoop into Fender like I'm the one who had to sit through Tuesday's of you yelling at Kim for not defending you with demille grammar. Another see I'm already like. It's like an like a rant. That's been sitting me for ten years as a ten year rants. Yeah. That's a good point. I mean as the president of the hypocr party, you know. You know, I hate house guts, but I would have her be my VP for, sir. Yeah. She's earned it. Yeah. So we're now seeing this clip of the ladies dinner when they were talking well, one of the dinners they were talking. It's like every dinner they go to talking about some dogs almost got put down. Yeah. So we go back to that. And I feel sorry for the woman. Honestly, I do. So terrible. No police about about. My heart. And then Kyle me while I was like, you know, as her friend. I just feel terrible talking about or bind or back. Carl's like ten he's like twenty. Wavell on high. Teddy. And Kyle in the same clip is like, well, maybe she's just going through a hard time right now. And then Teddy's like when you go through a horde time in your life. You heard literally every single person in your life. Do what you do. She's like setting up. Imagine of candles everywhere. Wouldn't you agree? This tables scape. Ever seen in my life. Wow. Budget Awale has never looked so good. Because now she is doing this. It's like when you're at the bottom of like a crane honor. You're like. This is a precondition to having clawed hands Abreau style you hot. Yeah. So get she becomes real housewives like a real real housewife. They'll stiffen out. Yeah. Slowly, grow atmos-. You can do the Heather do, bro. No euless. So Renan's like, yeah. I guess it's not nice to talk behind her back. But she was the one who chose not to be here. So then we're we're back. I remember by the way that when when Vander pump showed all the teddies texts to read and to Kyle. They're like, well, we really shouldn't be talking about this because he is not here. Think about that. I don't have anything else to say just think about so then Kyle's I just want to tell the truth they end everything out. She's crazy as Camille. We should have time. She just walked away when CMC came over that. Just said, no I want to read. Okay. So now, you're mad that she defended to read on your mind. I mean, I'm surprised he wanted to talk with her with that stank breath. Am I right everyone, right. She is in so much trouble. People like Lisa van their problem. I mean, obviously, we're always right? So we have that kind of power. But. The things that people say when people defend Lisa savannah are like oh Jesus Christ. What does the woman have to do? Good a baby. It's like, you know, we do stick up for for everything. And watching the internet go crazy. I just thought. Oh my God. This girl's in trouble. Yeah. She better get ready. I like seeing season one Camille come back. I mean, I feel like it's been a long time. I feel like we're owed it, you know. Yeah. She's going to need that job. This Camille just had a rough year. So it's like she knew what was coming. So Camille psych she should have walked away. Yep. So he's like. Yup. But walking away from TMZ wasn't in the plan. Okay. So then we see a lot. It's like bring some logic back in. So that he showed the clip of Andhra pro I know you've all seen this before just making us watch it against you have to so the then we see a clip of Vanderbilt going, so let me get straight com. Let me get straight in this poor person kitchen. Would you like something called a paper towel what I try and get together? All right now, you think I'm going to give a story to resolving them. And then I'm going to go to TMZ to review the story. I've given to online and crowds. Like, could you repeat the question? Back to Kyle at the restaurant. She's like they were both so angry, and how style and can't said I hope you told them that's not true and lease. It would never do that. And I said, no, I didn't and teddy goes. Ooh. He was yelling at you. Are you saying that he was yelling at you? Okay. Now, you move and abuse. You've been abused. Now by that horrible monster mountain of a man in everyone's shock that can yell. Kyle colleague into his house yielded his wife. Of course. He's gonna yell. You know, they're going to try and make him like a physical abuser. Because last week all their texts. Like cows. Used or that aggressive behavior from male. Your husband told you to go to room go to your room like the first can we not complain about old men being too aggressive area? Go to your room Erica. So Kyle after she is like walked Lisa's house. Say everyone thinks you're a manipulative lying bitch is like I mean, she just said I'm sorry. You feel that way anything, but this I'll you walked in like Harman, San Diego and attacked her. You're lucky a safe involve your head. So then Erica who's learned so much from the gays is like that there is that friendship that is both shit. And I like that like Ken says like, you're not our friends like I can't believe that you're not afraid, and Eric that's not friendship only get the same thing. So then we go to the present the trauma with try and get through this. So we got a banner pumps house, and there's a huge, Brooke Ahah pink roses for her birthday, which you know, office, you know, that girl sent it to herself, you know? Gygi is having like his last few sips of anything can his like he's like. Doing the Passover thing. You know, you stick your finger in ten plagues. Happy early pass over by the way. A little teacup his life eating Gigi. Less judy's. I'm just saying what happens. He's got this Eylandt drummer in his head always knocking on heaven's door. He's like. It's like if we if Gygi can still make it I can still make it, you know, his like, I'm just hanging on the new kitchen wolf. I just want to see what looks like he is so fucking cute. But it's like that kid at school. You wanna beat up, but, you know, their mom was the one that dress them, and you're like, well can't beat up the mom. All right. Come here. I'm sure I was the one who beat up kids in school, I met my history wasn't me at all. I love. So I love Lisa Vada pumps priority because she's lie. What happened with Kyle the other day? I've never lost it anyway, new kitchen kitchen. The best revenge new kids. Cams like seeing news coming off to you. She. Stupid. Fuck mitch. Vinci's wouldn't. Put new batteries in. You know? Good. By the way, we start to say it, but we didn't get back to it. Which is that you said that Lisa Vander pumps goodbye. Kyle did not get like is not getting as low forget what on your totally right. We didn't even mention that. We got to see her, and it was pretty good. I wanted to make that into the new goodbye goodbye. Kyle had her challenge where she's like good. Bye. Kris Jenner saying, so I just wanted to cut the Lisa one because no one ever talks about that. And just cut the Lisa by call. She goes she goes gets out to my house. Which is much more visceral. Like a Cracker Barrel. Leave like, no. Thank you have a nice day. So I get the fuck outta my house. All right good volley up just trying to return to book on tape. It's time for commercial. It's full of crap. Hello fresh meal kit delivery, service shops, plant live it step by step recipes and pre measured ingredients. So you could just cook eating enjoy K. Would you believe it girls? Hello. I makes concrete the kitchen a reality with deliciously, simple, recipes rash, premeasured ingredients and easy-to-follow six step pictured west of week cards are delivered to your door each week and special infant Laden. Thanks. Spend time you'll planning and grocery shopping. So you can get that time back to do. More of what you love three plans to choose from classic veggie and family. I mean, literally, it's amazing what the option is between four and when you taste change. 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Like, Stephen have you seen my little kits? Got us you with someone now. So it's Stephen and Ken. Booed. But I love when he gets. Yeah. What people like mad like, hey, that's a call sheet deaths. So so basically Pandy Pandy gave panty gave Lisa little lock it, which is notable because she's like, oh, the lock it has picture of you can and Pandy and Maxon, even none. That's so nice that she included a big box retailer in there. Of course, he has to include this goes, I think I've taken enough crap from kind of Richard's. I mean, even lost yet with ninety. Of it. We see the clip of Kreil being like who's nanny K. She was my grandmother. But you also gave you a great quality at a low price. So she's like Stephen I need something new that remind me of Kyle Richards. How about white cabinet tree? I may show the capita tree. And it's white. I love us. I go online shopping and just by the same ship already have. Yeah. So basically Lisa Lisa wants a new kitchen to raise the memories of Kyle fighting in there. And Lisa goes with Cal standing right there. I felt like taking legend. I don't want to take it to head. I just maybe to a stomach into little little sledge e to the heady. I don't know. Then they show the dogs waiting at the glass door because I have dogs in here when I'm talking about to kitchen. Weird. Associates the dogs at the Glen they're staring at the glass door like the dumb dogs that never get Cam. The lesser ones. I just had to write it down. Because a how many dogs does she have where snooky Mckee again because they all look like Nikki, and it's not snooky Suzuki. So you notice that the puck of she naming her I had sorta dance let's do the rookie. It goes like this. That's how Lisa banner pump dances, even that music video from the eighties. It's sexy twenty rolled Lisa, savannah. Prompts us. So I had to write it down because the dog's name our lollipop and being key. It's made it on before. I feel like lollipop is more of like the eat in Sassoon of the dogs. You know? Maybe had a moment. And then like Lisa keeps trying and supporting it, but it's needs someone on my side lowly bump. So yeah, she's like I haven't had a good time in this kitchen of late to have aggressive to me getting new kitchen to me. So now we go to Kyle getting dinner at a restaurant in Beverly Hills. And Marie CEO is like. Lady went like this. Feel your bits. Because of course, Kyle Carl's rule with us as always been you have to talk about your money, your fake businesses or your money or blame your sister for something as I at first I wrote she didn't even do that until later in the scene. But of course, you because she has her own driver. Thank you fan Cisco. Yeah. Maria was doing like the mayor Beverly Hills. Very much. Oh, good to see you. Yeah. Yeah. Great for head. Great bradman. Good to see you too. Without? Great. There are like low Tipper so Carl goes, so marine CO. Did you have one of those happy? Good days, Honey brook. Weird thing to say, and he's like, yeah. It was one of the happy us good days today. So how was your day today? This is always I'm radio looks at Carl. All right. You know? She's like, you know, me like a lot of balls in the air Meritas like me too, babe. For my day. I had an amazing meeting downtown. I said lot lot develop develop, you know. And then the fish is delivered in one of those big giant cheese wheel things and council is that cheese. How about truffles how much are these three thousand dollars? We got it. God do something with their live. I'm not money seeming personality shaming. Right. Menu shaming her. And it's not even that good. There says some of the audience so take that ill day. Let me reviewing the reviews are not even that good of your positive bowl. Not a wedge of jeez. Those big took us through fancy dinner went to that to have. They served us that the pasta out of one of those big parmesan wheel things, and it's like gut it out in the middle. And they scrape a little and you look at it. And it's like, oh, my God that is so fancy that is some old shit that they've been spending other people's pasta in for months. The fuck outta here with that. Do you have anything one of those little rip up in packages dominoes? I I actually felt so bad for Kyle. Because the way she was linking that pasta. Because if you looked at her dish, she had this little piece of halibut with steamed broccoli, and seems Yuki seems Keady she's like. I want it. She was like reaching out for you know, I think I'll have some of it. They like put an extra, but you know, the entire time. She's like look about two miles. I've been or how about like. Oh, yeah. Bitch. The steam should ever here. I can't have it. And that's why I can never truly hope for Carlton. I'm hellfire because I really relate to her. And just watching her look at the pasta that whole time. So maybe I could maybe I I mean, do you have a smaller span, maybe I could. Right there. No problem, and you just see her the whole time. Telltale pasta plus it onto the floor boards. Lisa manner, proper really care about. Licking the table. Try to get that sit in you guys. It's not about the pasta. Some more is like, you know, maybe have everything perfect all the time. I know you'd like to have things perfect. You know? But that's not just how how it goes like your family life. He's the one fighting with her sisters, not me. You know, what that's what Lisa used to say to me. At least used to say to you get to fuck out of my house. And I was like here's Kyle goal. This is how gold every fucking time. Now, she's gonna make herself the victim of. Yeah. Let's have it to Kyle pretty good because she commits even with those horrible solar things. He's wearing. If like, she's got two bags of Doritos onto her shoulder pads going like this and like, you look satanic just the pasta. She smuggling out of the restaurants. I'm still my diet. I still love her. Demanded frump and hurt, you know, poor people kitchen, she's like what I won't that kind of love Ken listening to me. Like. You just hear the AM radio stations. Switching in kens had. It's like. Ditto. AM radio could only think of wrestling thing. Like, I don't even know what's on AM radio that killed Dr Laura. That's my AM radio over you sad. If because you're losing back to me, Dr Laura okay? The point is like I don't want that kind of love, and I wouldn't have someone that I could say manipulative preys on the week is that I was like high you love all of your Casta Vander pup rules. You just described like how could you be some of the wedding officiated? Katie's wedding. Yeah. It was a Wednesday wet a a Wednesday wedding. I would tasks those kinds of people all give them a very lucrative career on this. I love that. Lisa hates Cal for loving her or claiming to love our that's good. I like these. Does. She's like, oh, can can you a bit strong with Kyle the other day? Which is wrong. Right. This is. Can that's a flow of ace can? Sorry. Do it again our vase. I'll do it again. So call back I have to sorry. I have to point out that this is a point. And you put it down. Ben Zayed good, boom. But I also have to shoot. Because if I don't I now stand up in fall right off the stage, and I know. So we have to remember this moment because Lisa manner bump going I thought you were a bit strong with Kyle can this is the part in the reunion where everyone's like that has been physically abused, man. You know, we all know is coming and she's going to go I told him. Stood up for you know, bad Ken. I even told riddle online not own. And then we come back. The Kyle the only reason I haven't issues because the only reason we have an issue with each other's because I didn't say that leased it would never do this. And he's like I'm shocked. How can spoke to you that was absolutely unacceptable. Now, if you come in my house and start yelling, actually, if you come into my if you even fucking knock on my door, screaming your house. Okay. It's true. It's true doing knock on that door reverse three's company like come and don't log on my door. Do you don't care. About job. This is actually true happened. When we've been recording the podcast open. Sorry. There's some of my door. Okay. Ben. We're twenty nineteen who knocks on doors terrorists. You know, what I could be doing in there? So then we go back to Lisa in the kitchen. And she's like, I can I can say I'm hurt. And I I can say I don't like anything she did. And what I'm not gonna do stand and say what a fucking bitch. She was. Guess arduous. Like. So then over into retail now, the real important stuff. That's now we got the real meat of this episode. Hey djing. Dr verse coming my eyebrows. Because I want them to be busy in angry. Well. If you ever try and trick me into drinking vegetable. How will burn your village down and your ankles village wanting a lot of game of thrones be had. Yeah. ABC's the quo calm down to smoothie. Oh. By the way, everyone go. Listen to our new game with runs podcasts. It's called winter crap. So so Doreen is her house with some dodo bird. And she's like. What do you walk to this news? Doreen making a smoothie this would be good. So he's like, well, I'm thinking spinach care. It's poppy seed others these I don't know help loosely caper. Caper? Thumb tacks. Hamster would jet. Elmer's glue fingernails Lucy's old dog. My boy says insane. But Doritos face really is like that Sadie. So there's breaking news on the real housewives it Beverly Hills, which is out of nowhere PK has diabetes. Four point three. Okay. It's a new kind. So he has he was too hard nosed with that. Before I even matching when we went on office date, he ordered three eggs to slices of bacon. A moving pays dispenser. A baby hand covered in. Hundred hundred grands. Pizza crust into how toward. A stack of almond joys shape into a mound. A burrito rap and burrito. A slice of pizza that was as big as three slices of pizza. I bentley. The table with some kids. Fudge fountain. Stuck his head writing? Has anyone seen Debbie? Allen recently. Hey, good to. Michelin man, gone. This is the best thing ever because you know, PK's lying ass got some hot model at a bar. I mean to read she's hot, though, Therese scored just thing he meets her to bar wakes up takes breakfast, which is the classiest shit. I've ever heard my life. I don't believe that PK did this. No. But then he's like or halt model. Okay. Hold on one second bacon. Eight nine pain cakes street cakes. Fool Hershey sur five ball. It's like the world is you'll to reits. If someone will still fuck you after ordering like that Mary them. They did the right thing. This is actually the most romantic story I've ever heard on Bravo. Maybe they were all emojis. And she's just like that was what breakfast was emojis. So you wouldn't need that much fruit. So parents so readers really upset because PK is still eating badly. Even though he has Diane Beatty's and so. So she's really upset. And then we get I love one Bravo editors shady because then we get an extended montage of PK, stuffing patient. Ause chip. It's way. PK has not learned how to TV because look how everyone else they're like this. Oh, my. Oh, my. Up banking in an egg. I'm gonna have pasta. Yami for my tummy PK's. Like this. Like. Every time. He's on camera. God down that guy down the entire from the spit rose to Hawaii party, you know, full on Little Caesars mouth. So I've said to him again and again. Enjoyed his longest the balance muscle. That's some bullshit diet advice. Right there cannot still eat peanut M and M's accounts with chocolate on their head just because you had a salad today. I did it. And look at me Pete all myself in there. So do read and say these start making this try to start making this smoothie they find like Neutra bullet. And like they put the thing on nothing in it. So it's like. How do we use this contraption pieces? There's a cop and a base. Go plug an aunt had. I guess it's already in the thing to turn it on. And it's like. I was hit with a bullet today. Honestly, I'm joy. Terrified. Sit with so good. Do you think that maybe to read in the neutral change places? Like, I'm in your body in my. Woman though bullet feels things that just got a came to life. It was like. Neutra bullets change its hair. Someone is already suing the nutribullet. The nutribullet already surging group on for jobs. There's an article in raider online about the nutribullet. Reads like. Right now. Be sue. Turn it cloney, very slowly. Very careful. It's good to come on any moment. It's plug buried. Does it take? Good. This is the shit. We think that Doreen like at home, but to see this. He's actually like, I know. So she's like say. We just threw him. No idea taste. So then she drinks it. And she's like. This is the most disgusting thing I've ever tasted this no way. I'm getting kid drink. I can't even swallow it swallow in him. Which point neutral got like a little hobos just walked out of the house. I'm out of here. If these neutral bullets could talk if you see nutribullet on the train just support it. Okay. Through a lot. Who says only friend next year at least. Found this new trouble. I don't. Neutral. Match neutral boat in the opening. Already doing the pose already like this. Oh, can I have a double vodka soda with seven up? Down you handsome bastard. Okay. So next a favorite thing to do. That's an rejuvenation to yoga school. Yeah. Basically, another one of these like look at the crazy exercises. They do in LA. And honestly, it is crazy what they do out there. Upside down on a ridden. I mean, that's not so bad considering some of the things we seen. So there's. Girls hanging upside down and Renna comes in and the way the only Renna comes and she's like. Were you? He's like my dusters. Overview yoga, where's the goats? Hanging upside down. Creek craziest thing I've ever seen. You're quiet. You know, that's the trouble now. I think we need a towel. That was my yoga is falling on the ground. I did it. I like these. My depends. To me some Erica perfect partners for this because they don't give Thuc. Those are my kind of people wait you just wait Lisa arena way. And Mark my words because you finally got your wish Vander pump the fuck outta here. Who do you think they're gonna come for? Now, who do you think here's one thing? You know, these days we live in such divided times, you know, half the country. Lisa Vander, pump half is call and all them the one thing that can bring us together or just like a college admission scam. It's an east Richards. Don't we all? Which? She comes in. And she's like, I don't care what the fuck is. I don't know. It's one of these weird, Al. No, it's either this or go to subway. So I thought. Like a bunch of bitches hanging upside down to yoga that Tuesday with Charlie. All right. You know? I didn't get DNA repair either. But I walked in there. Fuck the guy with the biggest dick I've seen on married to him. So. These things are sagging like herons balls. That's what I gotta said. You're paying me for this. Right. He's just showing up everything like these bitches fucking kidding me. Hilarious getting paid to be here. So they're all dangling and hanging. We see them all do their circus allay things and everything. And then when then like once that's all thank you. Once that's all done. It's now time to get to the gossip. So now, I Eric house to try Mike do flying yoga, and it was the best thing I've ever seen. Oh, definitely suck it five yoga. All right. I will that be comedy in the show. Where to go to vocal class. I know so sad. See now, you're getting I love it. Did you see how washed over me? Did I turn a different colored how you came alive? He just did a Maria von? Shower. I'm like, yeah. Please love me love year little voice right behind my ear. Mikey over here. I love you. Yeah. So erica. Okay. So renaissance starring can be drinks. I wanna talk about. Let's talk about reminds. You don't I'm so sick of talking about. That's so let's talk about the. And Eric is well things got he with lethal. But with care real house. We're gonna go. With people doing coconut kitchen. Turk. Physical kitchen. No. He goes, it must be devastating for Kyle, actually. She is pretty upset. I mean, she barely made it through. Thomas. What she merely made. Yeah. What did you say? Yeah. Real embarrassed. It was real hurtful gal Baylor me that through her. Here now. Magic bullet, right HAMAs. Saying I feel like Erica gets a little direct in her when she says things like almost. I love the homeland home. I'm HAMAs that lem my next song. Pat. The HAMAs HAMAs. I'm going to the Mediterranean via the tub chick. Alumna? Remers like, oh, kicked out of the house is another level to prove that. I'm not here to talk about these two knees. I wanna have special party for you to talk about your wedding where we can also talk about lease. Admire that women's commitment. So then speaking to needs we then go over to our house in Malibu where Aaron is now like drilling some cameras up to spy, it's despite their daughters, whatever they're gonna make a sex apron that foyer. And I'm ready to see it. On Kim's, all Ceac. So go ahead. Get it out. I watched an episode for Casey's podcast because I was doing that. Kacie. So I was watching. I was watching it and Kim has cameras all over her house and her kids. Do you wanna talk about? Okay. 'cause all see children. Okay. What a shock. They just walk right past the cameras, and she's like they're sneaking out and going someplace, we think it's the abandoned has next door. We're gonna catch a. You see you see the cameras and see does he walked right to the next door house? I've she parties and it with all of their own. I told you I call them kids. Don't care. They're used to being on cameras twenty nineteen. They haven't abandoned house next to are. You surprised? Anyway, enough that rubber faces. Let's talk about. Just in general. So Denise era. No barbecuing now. And there's talking about this whole situation into nieces like. Weird to you that women fight about this shit. And isn't it? We are not fucking right now. What's going on? Like. Yeah. Men just go outside. Okay. So. Now where women go through. Talked to L VP. Now. This is good. Because he's like Leah you go you go to teammate class you meet a guy fuck him. And then he's not gonna make turns out. He's a good listener most digs are. Yeah. They don't even have to learn how to talk unless they want to you. It's like. Top can use an elective class in the world. If you've got a dick that big. Yeah, sit there just sit there and nod and take money. Yeah. So yeah, they're talking about Lee's Vanna pump. But basically Denise she pretty much knows that Lisa Vander pump is kinda sneaky, but she does not want to be at her bad side. So she's going to go and like. Birthday painting. She was seeing only you wanna come share. You don't wanna piss her off his she plays dirty. Wait, if you know if if what they're saying is, right? She plays thirty. I thought you know, the editors even left unease because they could have cut that. She plays dirty. Yeah. She gave them the opera. Well, they did it on the promos coming up like she plays Hertie. But then I felt van pumps asshole clinch all the way from Las Vegas. After all I've done. We even that's our table teen. And then Denise go have I ever county someone the please dirty. Time just shut up in east. But now, I see fire with fire, and I was like girl, I've never looked forward to a bitch flower blooming. I have Indonesia season two, I cannot wait. I also feel like what'd you said? You fight fire with fire. I think she's actually going to torch lease. Had to say, I don't fucking care on fire. Well, see lives in Malibu. We'll see later in the season. They have a horrible fire. I mean that shit was crazy. You see you'll drive down. You. We were driving on the freeway like fire. It's like. Was bad. It was really bad. And part of me is like was Denise like you fight fire with fire like there's fire take this more fire. You don't fight fire with bio. Lessons to be learned. All right. Lessons to be learned. You're welcome everyone novella com. Enjoy the home. I just saved her. Anyway. Now, we go back to retails for very special episode of General Hospital. It's time to time to check PK's blood, which looks like tartar sauce. Shoes on. How about you have once in? I put on my. Listen to Jaga. I'm obsessed with Jaguar. So we have a huge medical breakthrough to discuss. Huge news in the world of medicine. So PK has type two diabetes, but guess walkaway is gone so bad for the first time in the history of mankind. Humankind. His type two diabetes about to turn to type one diabetes. It's physically impossible. But you know in a world where woman in a blender and change places. We can switch places of our diabetes. You know, my Ascott worried the second I saw. Can become Dodd one. We do then. If you really mistreat two babies. Ricketts ricketts. He K. He's on the cusp of getting rabies. Disease. Announced this but. Smallpox? The rest this leg syndrome. People have died from it. Over active. Not sleeping at not sniffling sneezing that can and stuff headed fever. Edit fever. And yet. Yes, tennis out though now. That's fucking eighty get. So she's like. Are they taking his blood yet? Or do they do that in from other things? It's happening. It's sort of. Yeah. Because she's like chromium we've gotta do test. All right. Why don't you just give me a fucking hamburger? How about? So for this thing in pooled, and he's like aura was this me. It's like nineteen thousand whatever. Suga then they get a close up of it. It's just. Love to temple Rogers is not smoked to hater that poor diabetes testing. Probably like kill me. Now. Were really are. Although it was probably just like a USB drive. So they go out to eat. And we see it close up of what they're eating. It's free made out of sugar. Then pasta salad. Yeah. And chicken salad which made out of Miami cream cheese. You're gonna die girl. Okay. Bye. Nice. Knowing you. Spread it was a whole spread. And then Jagger sees he's learning from his dad's. So he sees one green thing. And to read doesn't know like, let's be honest. She just pick the words like do. They kick it off. I don't want it and pink. And pink like our deal. That's what I call repaying. My bills deal repaying my deals so now the real issue, which is that. It's Lisa van poems birthday. And sent Lisa birthday message and Lisa never wrote back. She blanked out babe. Yeah. I've no indication you falling out. She didn't even ask me to best day. Shit washed. You didn't call. But why wouldn't she invited? Anybody? You know, what she has different reasons for all of you. But you probably still have to shift from those parties every time you go, you know, that PK takes home entire Chafer dishes and put some in the back of that Manley. Yeah. Also your dog about a kill shelter. So. So Doreen psych already. I'm sorry. Oh, should be the one upset and while to it's telling us this is wearing a mess. See looks like a screen door. Would you call it like fishnet stockings over I don't even know fat ring door. Yeah. She looked like Julia Roberts sidekick from Pretty Woman. You know? Trying to burst through a screen door. Yeah. Be the upset. One should be cold. So then we go to someplace called beauty, and the says what is that duty and SX beauty SX. John Sesa coming. Somebody being my cert. Making it really tight. That's Dr John Sessa to you. So. Yeah. So Phoenix online. Give me a cold. Every time you need to know about Darby twos. So really? And teddy show Abedian Essex, which is a restaurant LA, and they get of course. Were you at this restaurant? Jumpsuit right now. Happy national jumps day. Oh, it's pretty it's pretty fucking appetizers. I'm gonna murder you both so teddy. Teddy has one of our Senator great stories. She's like. Hi, I'm Terry. She's like, how are you teddy? Well, what happens is what I go home. I got into bed with slate. And then she's like kiss me on the forehead, mommy, and I do and then I fall asleep in her bed. Stay. They're like. Fifteen percent of one mother you'd have to shit. Get your mother get off my Ted. So fast go on finish your story about asleep at a pet like all humans do. That's it. I fell asleep. Teddy. So when it's like to me. Have a drink with Vander pump before she comes. She told me, and I said good. So happy. What a hostile. No problem with Lisa van. I'm so happy for her. Happy birthday have have jock on good time. Speaking at the dog. So then we get a we cut to to me in a car. And you know, it's been hired by the people who run the show, the producers disease sitting in this garlic. Wow. She's touching fucking faucet. Here. What the fuck is Kara hotel room. This thing day in it. So she's like, yeah. I'm running late. I'm gonna meet LB for drink beforehand before being I'm eating read a place called, Tom, Tom, which doesn't even make sense. I new guy needs. Know guy named Tom and Tom. So apparently Lisa had called in the east, and like you have to come to my party. At least it goes panda panda. Panda. Is truly arranging something tomorrow. Blows my mind that your daughter's arranging something for your birthday. It's a raging out of control. She is relieved doing it and these out of control. Ranging me birthday polity today's whereas have to put the Bill. What? Denise again, she had me sat by, you know, I don't know smooth things over. I mean, listen here is that Kyle. My name is Kyle. All right. Listen. You guys are having a real rough fight. What with, you know, global warming equal pay for women. Like, what are you talking about? This a fight about a dog. I don't know where click I'm gonna Pandy cello. Okay. So then we go over the Tom Tom and Tom number twos actually working in somewhat sober, which is like the biggest of the season. Katie makes me so miserable. I literally had to go to a different TV show to get away from her. I just have to say that to women just get high five. Yeah. Finally, he's like meet me at the after party. We're going to be on wicked tuna. Trade me rate me trade me, so Denisa so nice. She arrives. He gets one of the, you know, she's one of their cars says she gets out. She goes, oh my. Thank you. Gonna see you later. Okay. This guy parking enforcement. He's like actually have a ticket. So then we go back over to the restaurant. He's like if you talked to her palm. And we're like no with this text back and forth. Because you know, I tweeted a tweet for birthday me. Tweet tweet. All right. Teddy's like told that it was so funny. You often postings about your pill. Classic pullback. This tweet was my summer. Welcome to my summer. This street was my I feel like it was my entire summer people being like Lisa how good says something about bills when Venda pumps brother just died of. It was this huge thing. So Reynolds here on the show tonight to be like me pills pills. We always make jokes about pills. And actually that joke. Actually that joke a joke because leads Amanda pump. Joe member time role. We don't know what you're talking about. I mean, although we come back just to p. PA's pantomime in front of the camera. That's it. That's. I'd love track. Little who doesn't love a land us, right? She goes. So, you know, I did tweet to sing said happy birthday. And I had I had a cupcake with pills on it. And you know, I look everyone thinks it's funny because I'm not a pill Popper. And if I was I wouldn't joke about it girl the same way, I wouldn't make weight issues or is us. I would never talk about my, mommy issues. The important thing to know is you never joke about yourself. So true. True. Watching her backpedal is hilarious. And after say she's gotten pretty good at it. You don't know because they're just brushing it aside and Teddy's like what people got upset about that. I can't believe that. You know, I can't believe people get so upset about a small issue and bring it up over and over and over again and show texts to clarify when no one really cares. Who would do that? I'm debbie. By the way, you just put the image of rent backpedaling my head because I'm now in my mind, I'm actually matching on pipe. We'll wheels are clearly right. So. Peleton? So Renna goes, well, you know, Ted. He got a sense that it could be taken the wrong way. Because America in like ninety million tweets called you the c word. I like I've never seen that many women use the c word one night. I was like damn I actually don't think that I would. I don't think renaissance mock Lisa Vanda pumps, brother. That's. It's like stupid drama. It's not like dark drama like that. She's just a dumb ass. Yeah. But that lady said, yeah. Just dodo bird. I don't think she meant it that way. Yeah. She's an insensitive prick. But I don't think she meant it that way. Well, I don't even get it. And she's like, I had no idea her brother died the way he died, which you know, so many mother Nemi case it's relation. But we'll discuss that later. Yeah. So now Kennedy's driving to their party at Tom. Tom and Ken, basically, like, listen, I'm not gonna fight anyone who's gonna make my wife cry. But then it's weird because Kyle's not gonna be there always spend the birthday together. And then we see like like a prize memory of Kyle and Lisa but also Katherine Edwards house like. This is how we're going to start this montage the gap and Edwards. The forgotten housewife? Number. True hottest husband. Although he he played on a rival team. The patriots, right. So we can't like him here. Donny Edwards sports. Are you trying to put me into a fucking this? I'm wrong. I'm just getting drunk now just in the car with Vander pumping, Ken, she's like. Gonna be hell we've celebrated every day to like, oh my God. It's a montage of Cairo being late anyways. So good and then Vander problems like I will not let anything ruin miss. And like, are you happy or you started for your birthday? She's I. About the limo. Like, all right fine. Just like again miserable. And then I felt sad. If she is a professional would she is a really good victim. And I love it. Yeah. But even if she is being a victim. It's all her fault. I still feel that. So you know, what you made me feel things win. Well, I felt bad because she was like I'm happy that Colin to reach on. There are looking out the window like. Hello. I've got two new saying Hello. Breathing fog on the side of the window like. Meanwhile, Kyle shows up beating Essex looking like, she's literally like, Pennsylvania Dutch. She's like. She has this big black Bram and everything like. I thought she was gonna like raise the barn. She's like zip and really every scene without Lisa van Trump is like my. You look so pretty. So that's what they do is. Like, oh my God. Kyle you look beautiful look at your necklace and crowns like star. It's my sore. So cute. She's wearing around little gold thing in curse that says closed cute. Cute clothes. Closed by lean. Two. Repossessed by lean to. Goodbye Kyle by aliens too. Now, you've taken it too far lead is a good woman. I'm sure a lean is a good woman. Do you think I don't do this bitch is, but do you think this? She just woke up one day. It was like, no why is my name in this size, font and your name is in this size. Yeah. Fuck off the door. So anyway, Cal arts thinking from fiddler on the roof and then reach shows up. And her boobs are like out. Huge. It's like if pop tarts came out with the three D commercial. Flying at you. Thank you waiter back there. I love when I can make a waiter laugh. All right. Remers like, oh my God. His put great dream. Of tonic. We'll have some apps. Thanks waitress. So then Camille comes in and Camille way. See? And they all stand up and they're like can enter. Just wants to know on spit up for me in the script. Kidding? It. With. Without this dog drama. This would be the story line. No, no, I reach. So then we're getting a shadow of a story line because we cut to board. Denise waiting in tom-tom. Does look like a futuristic bordello? If you've never been. Yeah. It's it's a really odd little place if she's there alone. And then Lisa Vanderbilt friends who are basically old guys you like touching dogs like a weird. It's like a we're all evil village. Denisa sitting there like. Ports. I mean, she's the most famous person in room, and she's sitting there alone on that band. No one's talking to her. She's like, I don't care. I got words with friends. So then some random Queen comes up and starts talking like have you ever been here? It's my third time. Sammy. I don't give a talk to anybody at least he's knives. And all these saying, oh this valve it. So then back to the ladies renaissance tortoise, something, let's say. napkins. Camille. Then does we have this ongoing joke about Camilla because there was this thing that happened in season three where like shimmery SEO? She was trying to save Marie Cocco. And she was taking so much time. Everyone's got political rally, but she was. I do believe in. No. But so she would say she takes so much sign them just took over the conversation and just start having a four her. And so that's been like our ongoing joke. And then she actually did it this episode like, and what would you like to? I'll have to come. The Rita with a paid for market. Twins. Oh, okay. Great. Great. So said a. Literally did that she said the cucumber the green and they're like the green with envy. I love that. They're ordering the green with envy. So. Seven tell us about the wedding that we breed league care about come us wedding everybody on board. Don't give up. Tell me about your stupid, weddings. We talk about the thank you lady. Cetera meals. I left that you need to know. Sure. All coming your own by. A wedding of somebody. You don't mind Kurt's a destination wedding. I have to kiss your laugh or kiss your ass of different fucking country. Now. So Ridha renaissance knit about this because read invites everyone. That's weird. I wouldn't invite someone who's hair makes neck and neck, and you get the point. And they showed the clip of talking to and Camille like he net to eat. I don't. I don't. I don't know. But like the next on the back of my hair stand up. Renan's mad because someone's been standing manner about basically, right? Can we all agree on that? Yeah. So she's totally mad. So she's ready to come for Camille. Now Camille gives a really good reason. Next week got us. We were doing this next week. Yeah. But it's all being teed up. Like Renna has another target that she's airing on ranch. Yeah. So then they're like like, where's where's the niece and rid as I to me happening Trink with lease had TRE pub. This ritz. Mm invitation we're noon of who's did. This is known Benda pump. I've been focused the woman oh of three years. The first time to regard our time, right? So then we cut back to enter from Sparty. And it's so sad because poor Denise to sitting there alone. And if you've not been Tom, Tom, we know you will be at some point two bunch of crazy fuckers. That's good Michelle go, so Tom, Tom. It's like a very it's like walking into an airplane. Where like if you go like this you're gonna hit someone's head skinny long restaurant, but the only person who sitting in the front right Vander pump comes on the front walk right past in east. All the way to the back Mattia those like she she dissing to me some purpose say you I think that Lisa was just in like Pandy. Hey, just look at all the arrangements. Andy Maeve me and the clock clock. Nicolay my Shrove role either that Lisa was expecting people to come up to her because that's how it Lisa roles. Whether it's right or not. But I think she was I felt bad for today's personally. I she was like sitting there on a wild things for them. Yeah. And I was like this is Denise is true test because she could pull to read and make this three season arc. Yeah. But she didn't care then Mimi member nighttime you early wasn't seven forties. Eight. But the nieces just like, well, you know, she's in the worst part of her life all time, all our friends heaters birthday. She's got I think about. Anne who? I just called my Uber pool. I'll be there in a second. Thank God beanie, baby. Because I was at the airport reason some. Sorry, feeling bad old lady and men are project? Thank you for bringing again. Would you? Two. I don't think I can this guy small pond water. I gotta go. This is so sad. I did feel bad. I felt like Lisa like Lisa looks really sad at our own suppose in that victim. I don't want my victims to be victims. I wanna game of thrones victim where you've been fucked over. But then you behead the entire other family. Okay. I don't like when you're like. Victimize. That's always been my least favorite part civil do that next. I know. So she's right now, she's like to even want to talk about that. If good time. I'm just glad you came a beneath Pepi. I don't know what that's about his clean fantastic and updates. And then to meet goes. Yeah. Well, I just don't want you to feel weird like she goes under attack. You didn't want me to? Kay, lady. Khandan that'd be tell you something to this morning. Someone drove by my house and blender the window. I am onto attack. So then to knee says at you know, God knows where they are. Now Glendale on on. So they c- show. Yeah. So I don't know what that is. I'm like, I'm like, let's get this detail. Right. Okay. There at the same restaurant. I have so much mapping today. So me shows up in my favorite niece entrance. She goes like this. Hey. Fuck that thing that made me trip. Played a fucking nuclear scientists in a bond movie announce what they do GAC step in there for me. Okay. Rose sang fashionably late have this. I've she's really dressed up, but she's dressing up like such a smart ass because they give her shit about how she dresses. So now she's wearing just like some regular top cotton. I'm sure come on. And then she's wearing like tracksuit pants, but they have glitter now up to five of the track. So they're like so Denise like how married live what's going on like so far too weak. It's going good. Yeah. You know, like Erin drill me like five times today. It's going pretty well little concern out of our honeymoon period. And crowds like so married. Life is good. Everything's good. Your kids your family, your health, your heart, your soul. Did you see these went to say what you say? Same thing about me. What do job? Why does she do that? That is not a joke questions in succession. Then so well, you know, she was happy. She I'm like sorta Teranda like she was happy. She had her family and friends there Camille, just like does this little. I cut the noise in forgot to put it on my had to it was the funniest meal noise. A little little woodland creature on the corner there. And then you know, it sad because birthday, and we're not speaking just had three thousand dollar troubles after coming out of a he'd. Huge cart. My husband probably paid for which is with his business. Which is the biggest real estate company in Los Angeles. Then a banner that says the agency on furloughs above. So we had dropped down for everything. Yeah. Bunch of doves. Doritos? What degree does the thing that she does every single? He's in which is like what did I do? You know, she goes, I just don't understand why she's upset with any of us. Asked that. She literally said she doesn't understand why Lisa Vanderbilt? We'll be mad at the group of women who are accusing her of being manipulative bitch and leaking stories to raider online. Why would she be mad at her? There's so funny though, because they all are so committed and renting goes I mean. I have no beef with her. Lovely samantha. She's great. Why would she invite me? Okay. Okay. Okay. So. Yeah. So now Kyle starts thinking gossip about crowns like you guys were all talking to her before I went to our house. And then she cut you off like she's blaming you like it was all of you. Yeah. Caesar coming back to life. You know? And then just like, you know, inviting people to his birthday party instead of like the twenty stabbed him in the face. Yeah. I know they're now trying to make Lisa monster like because she's mad at the whole group. The fact that caused like, you know, it was muted take out all of you guys. I'm like, okay. This is enough. This is like act. This is driving me a little insane right now. I'm I'm sorry. I'm birth of Andhra pump. When you're upset then it's time to go to brandy Glanville's twitted. Oh. Oh. These guys big I was gonna taxed I'm getting. I'm having so much fun. At these shows that I've just like texting my mom in the middle. I'm like, what are you doing? Now. I hope in this because I screamed sided branding Glanville's tax, which is so funny. Okay. Brandy. You guys remember when you hear this brandies artist? Yeah. This is brandies Twitter picture, by the way. Let on understand. Okay there. Once there is spelled T H E. I R. For say for same for same. And it's not a possessive moment. We also knew that was coming in. I loved it. So she's like there once was the Queen crown hat crown hat. See looked like a bird that could swallow a cat speaking in circles and the victim once again, her fans just love her to them doublespace seeking not offend at Ambi at Bravo TV. What is wrong with you? Well. You heard English. You heard grammar you hurt punctuation? As you heard damping Franklin winter. She made up the freeze crown hat, just so she me to rhyme with cat thinks he was I think she was talking to watch what happens because Lisa showed up and like Jackie O pill. Did you guys see it? I didn't. But I saw clips of it. I'm watching that shit. Ladies of Queen and a guy who can clean. Busy, busy, gamma thrones. I'm like bringing beheadings bring in the. But she so mica Jackie O kind of pill kind of thing. But it was jeweled. It's like you'll crown and she told the property guy or Andy's whoever you prefer. The crown is heavy darling. So I gave it away I likes. So. Anyway, that's what she's talking about. Fuck off you fucking compulsive liar. You're you're the one who started this even all those years ago. If you haven't made stupid lies about her. They probably could have gotten her for something real by now anti also thanks for having us on your podcast. Thank you. Okay. So I mean, thanks. It's like thanking somebody for a free sample at a wedding. You know what I mean? We all do it with each other. All right. Come on. I was letting you have a moment. So that's it. What am I supposed to say? I'm not gonna grovel the somebody for going on their podcasts. You know, if you're a dick you're fucking, dick. I don't care if you're in my real life. You're on my TV. Because trust me when I'm dick, and it's often your assets, tell me, why should I have the same privilege? You have no problem telling me sub Queen and you should. You want me to go more? Then saying that I'm sensing that so the lease back to Tom, Tom. I mean, how do you follow that? How do you follow that? So Lisa's there. She's with like, Kevin Lee, and we see Muhammad, and then she walks up to max and Pandy Max's like, hi mom. Having trouble with your friends. Just want you to know I'm line. The mom. I'm here for you. Oh, lovely children. My favorite was Muhammad at the wedding Mahama that owns Bravo. What do you guys think? Yeah. Every property Muhammed owns is on Bravo. On some show every wife that he wants his on their on some. So, you know, and he comes up in these crazy like square glasses and his hair lines like back to here. Literally like phone Jodie Foster here. How long have we known each other? Like, you got your two hundred million dollar house on million dollar listing Muhammed tickets seat. Yeah. So then John's Dr John Sesa walks up to lease. And he's like Lisa I have a surprise for you like is it a button a button is. Is it half making many something? And then, of course, like strippers come out with her birthday, candles and stuff. But then I was watching Vander rules. Those are her waiters. Yeah. No, one of them was our waiter. One of those guys was one of our waiters and his name is Joe Joe. His name is Joe Joe, and he's a working champion. Story literally four of my head's Big Sur for us. But the one I was thinking of looked like he was from Friday night lights to you ever watch that one of the real hot one. Yeah. Tim Zimmer are weird. That was Joe Joe are waiter with Instagram torquing guy. This is like a super white guy with long hair, and he's always doing this. Hey, sounds like that. Sorry. Oh my God. He was so hot. And I was like this woman sexually harasses in such a classy way like here. For more love for her. Yeah. So then back at dinner realize like cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Not that. It was a show that your your husband who left you was on from any. Highchair you make that joke here in Boston. How dare you? Boston. The land of cheers, listen, we can love Camille, all we want. And I feel like we all do. Listen, I support Camille. I very pro is Fraser had a point. You know what I mean? No. I am team. Camille, I'm sorry. I am Camille. I don't care if she's being bitchy this episode. We know signing up for I love Camille, so Renan's like cheers to Erin. Many years together. Kyle's like and then the next ride Camille. And so we move over the Camille she's like, oh my God. Kelsey that's history. I don't even remember being with the guy. How could you not remember that was like a dustbuster? You haven't cleaned out for nineteen years. You know, I think I think I would block it out to honestly every she's probably still coughing up. Hairballs Harry man every time we had sex he'd yell Lillard Lilith. So then we get clips of Camille being gutted over calc-, and she's like have Jesus complex or like to. She not know, she's destroying family law, the classic of meals, you know. Yeah. I love I love when Camille talk about Kelsey. I think that's hilarious. So she's doing it. But then she's saying because you to reach is like to. Do you ever mail? Groom PK male. Groom. Have you ever tried to save? It is never even I'll tell you that right now you've always got like one braid coming out of it. Don't even try and during psycho. This. I went to bed literally thinking of Doreen like trying to take a razor to be. This is not very well. Groomed. Especially for someone who just came down with phantom arms Drome. The man is dyslexic stock this tick. The least that could do is give them a nut save. I'm all right, girl. It's so sad to see an unground person who has mad cow disease. She's just doing brand names now. Okay. Yeah. Camille starts talking shit. She's like, yeah. I just haven't people clean high used to be density system and Camille. I mean, Kyle you used to be a dental. Just because you work with dental dams. Not mean, it's memories of nanny cay who's that? Kyle bench for ten years. Everyone has like a bombshell announce has diabetes. Camille worked in dentistry somewhere between club MTV and. Kelsey, I feel like I have to set not for Kelsey. But I feel like I have to stand up for my good friend because you guys diabetes to taste delicious. Let's stop being. So mean to it? It is delicious it tastes like peanut Eminem 's and regular coat. So Camille Camille is and how drunk and talk about that. She's like. I'm so glad that Lisa got rid for teeth because her comes to McRae's. Like, more more more. Finally Camille after ten years to do for dentistry routine. It's like oh. The seating guns. Right everyone. You're like Seinfeld team. So it also gave us the only car will give I'm ever give me used because cows like. Dehydrated? Renaissance like what's happening with Camille, why she suddenly being so means Rena Tarinah. Why she being so mean, like, she's wishy washy or whatever. And then like, yeah. But now the gray. I mean, at least now you can stand breath. Am I right? And I was like all my guy, and this is when I felt the butthole plants around the world. Felt Lisa banner by watching this screening the penthouse suite of Caesar's palace. I was like don't don't you mean morally corrupt. Lisa Vanda poem. Especially like the great. I'm going down. Bring the casket bring. Kelsey is like oh, you ask for it. Here we go. At that Camille is in some deep shit now. I like Camille, but I've not likes Camille the past few years. I like when Camille is fucking up your life. And then being like. Isn't that what she's doing? That's what I'm saying. Like this this. Yeah. Like a good hero. She's getting rid of this fucking dog story line because I'm gonna start putting down. Now, we're going to move onto a ten episode or about gum disease. Gum diseases place on the supreme court. Well, that's a great note and the episode. Guys, boston. Thank you so much for coming.

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Camille Grammer vs. The Ladies of RHOBH: A Primer (with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills)

Bravo TV's Daily Dish

19:48 min | 2 years ago

Camille Grammer vs. The Ladies of RHOBH: A Primer (with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills)

"<music> Hi. I'm Megan Sierra and I'm Eric Day man. This is the daily Dish Bravo's official podcast so the real housewives of Beverly Hills season nine reunion is underway underway and it's been nothing short of dramatic from addressing Lisa Vander pumps absence to lease arenas twitter war with Nicolette Sheridan and Teddy Mellencamp Ari ave apologizing for her hand in puppy gate not to mention Camille grammars. There's walk-off not only did she physically walk off but her dress was about to fall off to at the end of the real houses of Beverly Hills reunion part to Camille walked away in tears and mentioned that everything was a setup. Yes An- andy kept questioning why she I thought that this was a setup about her. Coming on the reunion Camille then mentions a comment made by Teddy on Bravo T._v.. Dot Com very own real housewives have beverly hills after show teddy pretty much said that the best part of cumulous wedding was leaving which might be a little harsh arch so to prep you for the aftermath of meals walk off and part three of the real houses of Beverly Hills Reunion. We pulled the exact after show moments that explain why she was so upset plus a few more juicy tidbits. You didn't get to see on the show. Let's take take a listen to both sides of the story. Okay Ka Meals wedding highlights from that from the minute. I arrived at the venue. I mean watching the sunset seemed my family and all my my friends. I love so much having my kids they're the rainbows in the background the sunset and David so handsome and having his family there and there was a lot of special miracles that happen. My mom made it there from my wedding. That was a miracle. I didn't think she was GONNA make it. I didn't think it was GONNA make my wedding. I'm glad that the girls were there to experience what I love so much about the Hawaiian islands and so really Special Day Camelia wedding adding highlights okay well we were in Hawaii great sunset and there was even a rainbow. That's what was the best part of communes wedding anything. The departure sure we'll call you. Tell me about being a member of the wedding party uncomfortable with the dresses at one point choked water sorry. I said you cannot wear leave. I'm so sorry that I can't be bridesmaid. These are not stick arms. It's going to be like a chubby squashed pork chop arm. I mean first of all I have double D boobs. That are my <music> own with that comes like I'm fuller all through here I do not were captured. Leave whoever invented the caps lead hated women so I was like Oh my got knowledge. That won't close around my boobs. What am I going to do you so I was gonNA panic plus? It didn't come to like the day before the wedding I had a problem didn't arrive so I was the dress is not here. What am I going to do so then I had to have it like fabric taken to get it to fit? It was a whole situation Asia and I got to see all the snapshots anyway. It's all good now so by the time we had been through you know three days of a wedding it's great but it's a lost a lot and we had just gotten Martin van and this article comes out. What is their hardest pledges sick people magazine? She wanted to release it but then tell us just so you know I released this Kislyak Vivian Fronts and asked my head was actually upper-house when you were all like so we are like it was such a funny moment and that's when I say to rate okay well Henny and I hadn't said anything like I wasn't going to tell her that all right can meal had. Maybe not spoken so nicely because I've learned my lesson. You're not supposed to like go behind people's back and say oh by the way so and so said this well in that moment I was like you have a wedding leading an insane on very nice to me. I'm sorry cheated. I want to say that to you when she did fred four fifty birthday party. I just feel that you know there's a little bit of phoniness and I don't know where she's like. I don't know if she has all the money she has is or is it a show fake accent all of it she bugs and I know we all love going to be honest. She'd makes the back of the little hairs new next stand up and make the little hairs. I should tell her you know if you ever heard of German planning. Get rid of that very easy truthfully. I was very very surprised watching the show back in seeing the way she was talking about me because she was so different to my face. Yes I have enjoyed during the past. There's certain things I question. I questioned still to this day why she would call me a see you next Tuesday when she didn't know me from Adam but again I was willing to move forward and I wanted wanted the girls to be there and I didn't want anybody the drama of that. Oh why didn't Camille invite me. I didn't want to deal with any more drama. Whoever wanted to go you know they came? I get like maybe you invite a friend friend that you're not much to a dinner because it's at the sake of your other friends but it's your wedding and you have a real problem with me. Why am I hear I I should know you have a big enough problem with me that I shouldn't be at your wedding knowing what I know now gone because it seems disingenuous that squashed the memory for me who can be on have been saying that she was very a hurt that Lisa didn't come to her wedding and that you know she wished she could have been there and such an important day? She should have been here to be here for me and to dismiss all of this and then we'll we're leaving the HAWAII LISA run. I'd get some tweet with a people magazine article saying how exclusive Camille Grammars wedding and thank God for Lisa Vander Palm Okay guys what people magazine surprise to be honest in between the branch and going to the airport an article came out in people magazine where Camille professing her eternal gratefulness to lease evanger pump being such a good friend us at the breakfast which the hours before it was posted. I'm so confused. She says I respect her decision. Where like she shower or your wedding and we all like let families we don't could the she says something nice about Lisa but you were saying negative things and actually nice things in the present? She's not even here. We lost stay loss to because they changed. Their schedules left husbands kids to fly for her wedding. That's not a close place to go to Hawaii beautiful but still I think that a lot of them felt slighted and they were just like what as Lisa renison so eloquently. She's just flip flopping all the time. I wonder if that's you know so. is she afraid to really say how she feels about Lisa Vendor pump like if you say something's in one company. Why aren't you consistent? Is it because you're afraid or because you're just say you don't feel that way like what is it. You know an meals never done anything wrong to me and can Camille been nothing but nice to meet but it's hard then to trust in someone like that. Like what am I getting. What is this is this at face value or unite because you're even being unto you? It's being said about other people and you go what what is really going on. which I think is true? Do you think that she was saying she was upset with L. V._p.. For you guys I think she tells whoever she's talking to what she thinks they wanna hear I think she wanted to have a bigger story and be able to talk about Lisa vendor pump because they're already been rumored that Lisa Vander pump was filming with us in here. I'm her savior and I miss her and she's been so amazing to me and now we can talk about that. That's pretty clear I can't with you when you make that face. You're like this. One Teddy really just stepped in it well after your wedding have for dinner with the ladies. They feel sort of betray that you said you were disappointed. Lisa didn't show up to your wedding but then the People magazine story came out and I say how pissed off I was about that. The first half of that people magazine article that they were reading happened before I even Leifer Hawaii it happened before my wedding happened before I you know Lisa showed up or didn't show up. I can be disappointed that Lisa didn't shop for my wedding and not be mad at her. You know yeah I miss her. It would have been nice for I heard a com. Yes I am disappointed but I understand it because she lost her brother and she's going through a lot. You can have both of those failings. Even if Lisa's I said something nice about Lisa so what so what what so what why get get after me. This is about my wedding have a hard girls support me and my marriage in my nuptials. They should be happy for me that I just got married after the horrible experience. I went through with mine divorce. That was I went to an awful divorce and I went through cancer and I didn't choose to be a victim. It happened where you mad at least for not coming to your remember being really so mad. At least I think and the girls wanted me to be mad weddings to great way to bring people together. It's about celebration. It's about love and I always feel like no matter what's going on. You show up digest celebrate. Somebody's wedding who you've it's been a friend of for a very long time. She doesn't have an issue with you right now. She's always here with. Why isn't she? Here I agree Lisa. Renna was one at me. You could see her. She wanted me to follow her along like she was leading kidding me into this emotion that she was feeling. She wanted me to jump on that but I wasn't. I was going in half way because that's not how I felt. You know I felt for Lisa like I said I've had great empathy for what she was going through understood. It can be disappointed at the same time yes do. I miss her presence there because she's fun to be with yes but do I understand. She's going through a lot. Yes and I could also understand the girls frustration about them. <hes> they're frustrated about her. I understand that they were frustrated and maybe that comes off wishy washy to them but this was my wedding. Put the pettiness aside. Do you want to address. What Camille brought up about piquet wasn't she was threatening? I didn't trust you. I didn't know where you were getting all this money from. I know things worse sir. You can give me whatever you walk mill whatever she was getting very aggressive of and she just kept threatening. I know he owes money to someone Ni os money and I'm protecting you. Share threaten me let me try. I wanted protecting you. You're yes snake to protect the me off. It was designed to hurt me to make you look to look bad. What what the you talking about P._K.? Had A heart to heart with me. He started opening up by by saying that he had fallen on hard times in a normal place and then a male go down to big boats. Get Down Dorri running around with very very expensive clothes. We're talking about. Some of her. Tops could be two three thousand in the pants two to three thousand. There's a six thousand alphabet not including the diamonds and the shoes I question that question like how can you afford that and she's like Oh. You're so horrible I mean give me a break here. Get over it. Come on I mean you know I'm not the only one questioning this the other girls questioning at two but they're not saying that I couldn't understand where they animosity was coming from and then none of that has anything to do with you know or your relationship with Camille now. She's not responsible for her husband. You know I believe me. It was just something that was just in my opinion way off base P._k.'s affairs and whoever's coming out tried to say he owes him money that that is from another lifetime ago two way before me. It's it's way before his bankruptcy. It's at the height and you know unfortunately when you become public they come out of the works and that's exactly what's happening. There is far more to story than what people think that they know and there's a lot that I can't say obviously because it's in the hands of lawyers and where it should be is far as engaging or trying to speak on that matter. It's not something I'm going to entertain. It's not my place. It's got a belong where it belongs in the court of law and you can sure that we have a court of law for a very good reason. I've been in a place with Camille. That's different. Oh too many times where she's very nice to my face. We have a lot of conversations on and off camera camera and then she went out my turn my back she saying something horrific about me and it's just like okay. What is your agenda here honey a took? No why maybe she thinks some an easy target. I don't know but Claude well tastes up to scratch tigers knows okay. Just be careful. We had a party to celebrate opening the Twenty Fifth Office of the Agency and it was quite interesting. Testing Camille came in on fire. She came in never mind. Don't say that was coveted hot not worth my time VERSII RIMMED OUT LISA renna disgustingly. The party with a single really seems like a too. I remember her saying you're the mean girl and I remember looking and just kinda going what she needs to do this right now this isn't about me. This is about Camille. This woman is lost her close assistant friend Confidante of twenty some odd years and her house and I remember watching her and thinking okay just breathe. Don't say anything because this woman is in pain. It's still funny with Camille. She's either like our. It's like attack mode it was it was attacked what happened we all different things but what an ideal why do Camille was on another level like there was the point where denise looks at me because she knows them slightly over thinker she goes teddy. Maybe you're just taking things personal and I go. Why don't you try and talk to her? I'm not kidding three minutes later I see denise. Give me like fanny back tonight going at it. I was like told you you could not have a conversation with her without her exploding most disgusting. I don't know why she came to be honest because she came in like Hornet. Yeah like a bad outta. Hell and you know what I've been through a lot. I'm going to let loose tonight and have fun with all these women. She was coming in because she was pissed. You know I've really felt the night before. I've felt like I was ambushed at a dinner nee came after me one after another conversations stations Lisa completely contradictory did let her up felt like a little punch confusing. If you say one thing you say somebody else years. I had a hard time finding my voice. Finally Ah I'm like why am I kau telling to them and what they think no. This is not what happened. I'm need to stand up for myself here. When did you decide that you were going to confront them at this party probably in the car right over because before I didn't I just I wasn't even thinking that I just it was raining? I didn't have a house to live in. I was trying to figure out where to live. I wasn't even thinking about that until I got in the car and I thought Oh God. I'm going to confront these girls. What is it going to be like like I bolt strong and myself that I can use my voice instead of having them? Leave me into the way I should think what I should say I can actually stand up for myself and say no. You're not gonNA lead me into this Lisa Ranna this this is how I feel about this and strong about it. Strong to my conviction of what I was going to what I was feeling about what transpired at the dinner and how I feel about the things that transpired throughout the last few months went to their therapy for years to learn to here's my boys now is the time to do so if you take this whole season people that are hurt and who have been through a devastating tragedy. I think it's not mutually exclusive to what's going on in your behavior of your past. Put It isn't a pass. It's not an excuse she right hurt. People don't hurt people they hurt themselves. If you are going to be shooting to someone at least Cobb to it and apologize and say I was act acting out a certain way or the stuff that was said in my opinion she would have said that whether she was going through or not yikes. I'm intrigued to see how this plays out so as you know I was there so I definitely have an idea. I'm not gonNA give away what happens but you'll be surprised I can't wait be sure to catch the real housewives of Beverly Hills reunion part three Tuesday July thirtieth at nine eight central and we'll be back with our regularly scheduled episode this Thursday. You know we'll be talking about what happens. Talk to you. Then six and remember watching Bravo isn't isn't a guilty pleasure itself care guys. Let's keep the conversation going. We WanNa talk to you all week. Long not just Thursdays you can find us on twitter or Instagram at Bravo T._v.. Don't forget to use the Hashtag Bravo daily dish or reach out to US personally. I'm everywhere at Mexico Sarah Anne. 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Oregon Legislature expels Republican lawmaker who let an incursion into the state Capitol

KUOW Newsroom

01:01 min | Last week

Oregon Legislature expels Republican lawmaker who let an incursion into the state Capitol

"Oregon state representative. Mike near men has become the first lawmaker in oregon state history to be expelled from the state legislature. Dick vander heart tells us why by a vote of fifty nine to one. The oregon house approved a resolution. Finding newman had engaged in disorderly behaviour and expelling him immediately. The result inevitable democrats signaled for months. They wanted out of the legislature and his fellow. Republicans joined in on monday after video emerged. Showing your men telling supporters in december. He would let them into the locked capital. He followed through days later. Setting off a clash between police and armed protesters prior to the vote to expel him. Near-miss argued his motives had been pure considering expelling a member for the first time in history because he thinks that people should have access to their capital especially during session but the outcome was unavoidable. County commissioners in benton marion polk and yelm he'll counties will choose a republican to replace near mint in salem. I'm dirk vendor heart reporting.

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#896 RHOBH: Who Let The Dogs Out?

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1:19:08 hr | 2 years ago

#896 RHOBH: Who Let The Dogs Out?

"Watch. What crap ins would like to think it's premium sponsors just saying, okay, Christy, wildy Dougherty, actually Savona. She don't take. No bologna, Aaron mcnicoll is. She don't miss no trick. Liz Meghan, the slayer Taylor Kelly Barlow when she goes Barlow, we go. Hi, lo Megan Berg, you can't have a burger without the bird. You know thing like alpha king hot dang. It's Jessica dang there at Greenwood. She only uses her power for good Hannah. God I love that banana Anderson of Nikki, low Weber Lisa wallet. Now. That's what I call. Volunteer. Mad are super premium patriots subscribers Suzy Gau intuited Tobin. Give 'em hell miss Noel. It's all okay. With Wellington DuPree. They grant that grandma Meena coochie coochie COO. Gee, let's get racy with miss Stacy, Shannon out of a cannon Anthony incredible. Edible Matthews sisters. Lizzie Drucker fine mother. Much was crafted. Have been as so much bed. Babbitt everyone. Welcome to watch a crap ends a podcast all that crap on Bravo. That we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandil Kerr from the real housewares kitchen island can find on YouTube and joining me is the wonderful hilarious, man. Ronin carom who's also co host of the rose brick rose bricks podcasts which saw about the bathroom bachelorette. What's going on here? Ronnie. Oh. Oh, thank you for shooting me through the heart. Beverly Hills from your day, very very exciting. We we soak cited to have this show back and before we dive into that this recap. Of course, we have to talk about big exciting things. First and foremost, I'm sorry. I'm like did. I just like burp up in the microphone that this death thing. So first and foremost next week. It's next week already. Can't even believe it. We're going to be at just for laughs in Vancouver. So everyone if you're in the area, go get tickets to that because we want to impress people because there's like famous people are going to be there like Seth Rogan, and like armor, STAN and stuff like that. So we want to cool. Okay. So come on top of that. We're also gonna have a fun time. So that's watching crop dot com. As well. As many of our many other shows we have Cincinnati coming up. We got Cincinnati Boston Portland. Phoenix, Irvine the walkie Minnesota. And of course, south by southwest holling, which is highly for us. So. What else over there? Come see. Yes. Yeah. We really want you guys to come to our shows because it's super super fun. Anyone who who went to the Dallas show this past weekend? Just heard the recordings could hear how much fun. We all had. So we want you part of it was amazing. And also our search for this month our campus LAN is Andy Warhol pop hot. They're also available as really wacky leggings. So if you. Yeah. Today today return? Of real housewives of why did you hurt? Lisa Vanda bomb. Yes. La LA LA long on on on on law. On. Law that was me imitating Villarosa at the beginning the episode. Oh, God knows no music at all. I just bucolic zest like what? Tweet tweet tweet. You just hear birds tweeting the water of the pond being splashed around g all quiet on the western front. It was just lovely and pleasant what could possibly go wrong Villarosa many whores framed in a pink swing Hanky panky dead Gygi on a chair in close Kins last outfit. It felt a little bit like that famous tracking shot from the Texas chainsaw massacre with that swing. It goes up to the door. Like someone to kind of going to come out with a chainsaw wearing people's skin. Well, it's funny how much of a horror movie, Lisa Vander prompts house. Does look like without music jam. We're really did set the Horace seem it was terrifying. Terrifying. So then we cut to the fight and leases in her kitchen going name name. Now who says that say, it's this is a big shock to me. I've done nothing wrong. I've done nothing wrong. But let a certain my stroke put clocks mobile, which you haven't been to yet have you? And it's so blatantly like, I have done nothing wrong guy. I swell row CEO's live. Just admit it. I'm going to say, yes if I did. Yes. I did something if I didn't do it. For instance. I absolutely did not send syndrich off in a crate to Cyprus. I will take me to living in Calabasas when I do not. And Kyle's like oh. I didn't come here to fight. Lisa kenya. To call me. At which point don't, Ken monster. You ought not to friend. She would never say about UCAR. I just wanted to be honest and cans, like she'll never say about an points that her the end to see flares is like, I know you're not gonna finger me right after, you know, don't don't think people have forgotten about you touching your London's arm can. Yeah. And then she's like, maybe you care more about your image than your friends, which point like, Aw, you're not ever and non and you had a friend good. Spunk out. Am I know it's going to be offense season because as usual like it's a start off with the Kyle note of terrible fashion. And all it is Kyle a stupid hat. Really, really? That's she is at least like folk out of my house. I swear I'm done with soco's like, and she starts she just like, you know, pets away leaves sort of cuffs out of the house over the bridge and the cameras hold. And then you just see a dog chasing after that dog. That dog is probably been put down by now. Okay. And chase. And by the way, we're the hell we're Hanky panky. This was their moment. This was their moment to finally by Kyle and knock in trouble. Yeah. I know it's like it's like a free Kinkel grab the should've been waiting there. Like, this is the moment they've been waiting for the can kangol buffet, and they missed it. That's all she needed. She's being attacked by everybody. Then Kyle totally maybe care more about your image than your friends. Aw goodbye. So now everybody is already heard about the drama for the season. And we won't go into it too much because we're gonna be talking about it's Beverly Hills. So I'm sure we're going to be talking about every single episode for twenty three episodes. But it is weird. Having already heard all this stuff. And then the seeing how it's playing out here because people are already ready deterrent. Feather Vander pump. Yeah. I mean, she's already been getting it all over the internet. Finally, they've brought down. Lisa Vanda pump. And I have serious doubts and this scene really gave me serious doubts because I am not going to believe to read over. I'm not going to believe to read or Kyle over van pump ever. I'm a stand. And I will admit it. And you guys are going to be hating me all season for that. First season are first seen. I'm not sure how this is going. Yeah. I have to say actually, I'll say I f Assode I'm like, I don't I think so far Lisa's pretty much the right about everything so far like I don't have any far. Yes. Afar. Are on psalm like excited us work goes. I'm really excited for the season. I'm just gonna say, by the way. Also, I really enjoyed this first episode. I really felt like that vitality and that excitement that had been missing through last last season felt like it was back so far Safar. So, you know, it's very important. When you go see amuse ical that you walk out humming at least one song and I walked out humming. Car. I also. Fled cats. Memory's not of good back. No members of you. So now, it's like one of my favorite techniques do months early are. So we now go back in time when things were nice and happy. And honestly, I think generally when when when a real house off season opens like that it usually works out for me. Like, I'm usually like, oh, the like New Jersey opened up like that. And I was like I'm like, oh, this seemed like a pretty light fight. I don't know why we're doing two year. Remember, I think two month rewind. We're like, oh, gosh, just like the christening again and the New Jersey turn not to be an awesome app season. So like, I think the two month, maybe the two month earlier kyron just automatically just put me in the right state of mind. Well, I was in the right state because I have, you know, even when the shows that it's worst. I still really like it. I mean my season we had a ball recap. Yeah. You know? I don't I don't know that I have regular is watching these shows. I thought it was fun. So. Two months earlier. I guess what do walking around in agency things? We'll see but MAURICE. Agency agency, babe agency agents, we fucking no, dude. Okay. Stop. You guys are so thirsty. Like, we don't walk around in our watercraft t shirts all the time. We shall we show our shit everywhere. We don't walk around in our own t shirts all the time. I mean, come on. Now, doesn't he cut the crap ins does he have some free shirt? From like trader Joe's that he got when he was doing a charity doesn't have like Malibu triathlon could wear like a Snickers bar shirt like anything. But the agency shirt. Yeah. So Kyle's planning of barbecue at their new house because that's what makes it feel like a home K having Glen do something for you. Yeah. Exactly. And so then we'll saying what everyone's doing week over Lisa Renan's house where she's like pulling teabag out of like, a William Shakespeare pot of some sort. I think and then just making Tina giant pineapple mug, which I love because of course, we're gonna has like a giant Monka pineapples on it. T- muck baby. Sweep prickly. Before target was. Maybe. So then over Vander she's in her closet, and she's yeah. She's in her closet with Ken, which was like hilarious that that's where they open and her dog. And she's feeding the dog t from her Cup or teacup. She's like, you'll feigned on shoe it Alice geic that he at less taken from my sophisticated teacup. That's not made with pineapples rookie ah. I got to tax from Kyle. And like. She so dramatic. She goes, it's pool party around one pm. Oh, bring Ken if you. So meanwhile, the read PK are in bed in their bed with the kids. They're under the covers almost that. I it sounds sexual. Okay. PK pecan and they like lower their do. They and the whole family is under there. Like. Oh, yeah. These two just so wacky. And so to read the text on T Carl is having a pool party. And then, but I just I was funny that she calls. Her auntie Kyle. She's another Taylor in other Griffin trying to slip in anti in their front a rich one. Now, the low to sage in Los Angeles. She's around he. Yes, she's anti and then because before we go to a pool party. It's time to go back into the rocket ship. Do they up to two up? I'm like is that what we're calling Dutch ovens. Now, the Ron. Then we get to Erica with Erica has the best one. Because she just here's the text go off and covers for face while hurt the Overman looks on Rocketship along. Fuck about stupid tax against what I don't give them bug about. Buck. I'm I'm going John Matheson, gone up two thousand mile Tanner Rocketship, no children out on this one. A mentality over her house being exciting as ever or you reading oatmeal or just graves. I am too. Hi, I'm teddy now teddy. Here's something that annoy me about teddy that when she got a text for phone rang. And I was like like it was like the sound effect that she used was like an old school phone ring. I'm like, that's that's not. I don't approve of that as Tex tone. I don't either so much. It's it's annoying. Enough listening to people's phone rings that you are text go off all the time without yours being really long. It's like Lagos go to just wanted to be accountable. So everybody knows that I got it takes totally admitting to getting it still wringing still ringing, but also don't make it sound like your phone is ringing when you're receiving attacks. You know, like, that's like a mixed message. They're dealing that. Could be worse is if she did like the clown horn 'cause my friend used to do that. We're not. Is it cloud Horner like a bike? And I'm like, are you are you are you a grown human being with that textile? Like, I'm barris for you. Okay. That's the only thing that could have been worse. My mom's is I'm here in Texas. Still and my mom just keeps her ringer on always at the highest volume. But she's never around to get it, you know. And so all you hear. Where? All the ducks in Texas her my God, it's like duck singing turning off the other thing that I got annoyed with teddy was that she was wearing a t shirt, but when they shot her from behind you saw there was like a big open panel in the back. Like, I want my t shirts to be to be full t shirts. All the way around that you're coming for teddy already just over. You know, what it sounds like? I'm really coming for these are things these were just like off the back like like off the bat disappointments. But actually overall I was really happy with teddy because I could truly feel her bitch flower her second season bitch, flower blooming. I don't know if did you feel too 'cause I just felt it in the air, and I was very excited by that. Well, they posted the tagline they didn't show the tagline this episode right on L, Instagram, EEO and judgy girls. Maybe did it. I don't know. The whole world on by Bravo, Cindy, posted it and face like, everybody's got it. But the her tagline is something like, maybe your friend. But that doesn't mean I'm just going to stick up for you for no reason Heim telling forget what the exact line. Think it was like doing work, but I'm not going to do your dirty work. Hi teddy. Someone when the preview came out last week or the coming next week was shown on watch. What happens live and people were like, oh, great. And you guys are already started a the Vander prompts dance came out and was fighting all the people who are being mean defended and they somebody who's this teddy chick anyway. And she's like, hi, I'm teddy. Is a housewife, you know, the one you're following replying to. Funny. It should be known that even though you guys can't see us for me anytime. I talk like teddy. I do the invisible. Monkey chimes. I'm banging to invisible symbols together slowly with my hands ships because that's how she talks. So yet. Here's how we know that teddy as the bitch flowers blooming, and that's a huge compliments, by the way, is that a she's getting the first segment of the season the first proper segment and be she's moved into a new huge house, which is sort of like the way of saying I need a new house for my gigantic ego that has developed in between seasons. Yeah. Her husband had been comes in. And she's just Maggie him the whole time. She bores me ten, you know, and I'm not a big teddy hater, I didn't hate teddy last year. But oh my God that fight over time for the entire. I love. Don't leave your tell here, you're always asking whether it's a mess here. Maybe it's because you made a mess like I was totally on her side during that time fight, and I really enjoyed it. And I think that more people have to you know, I thought it was an important to have so yeah, Teddy's like to so renew house because basically Edwin was like obsessed with us. We're like literally five houses down. That's Aung number that band three doors down, but add to that's what we are. Bought it came on the market. We bought it while I'm teddy. My my business is doing so. Well, I have thirty coaches five hundred clients at a new tagline, which is all in by teddy Mellencamp. Hi, I'm teddy. Welcome to fill the. Hi, daddy. I am Terry. Two swans out front and all they do is say, hi, I'm teddy swan. Their names are teddy and teddy. This is teddy and teddy. Remnant is going to her daughter. My God, this is funny. Hi teddy. And again, this is the hardest show. I think that they get so annoyed with each other about time because this is the most difficult so logistically I mean, you've got Erica who lives in Pasadena, which is half away from LA, you know, like, basically Hollywood. And then he got rented Beverly Hills, Matt Vander pump. I think is in BelAir or seeing Beverly Hills. And then you've got the Malibu girls because Camille is back and then you've got. Oh my God. It's so far melda isn't that where she was is on the water? I was like teddy was in like the hills of studio city. Oh, I think she's on the water. I think that was. No Teddy's in the hills. She has a beach house down in Orange County. But yet remember that from last year the. Teddy's the. The DoubleTree 'cause I got a double flow. Nissan. We are taking commercial break now. But if you don't hear one done worry, you're very lucky. So next we have seen that. I thought was I mean, I could not stop laughing. I this was the most hilarious thing ever. Also. I can't believe this thing exists. And I think I kind of want to go to it which was go yoga. Yeah. Go yoga. I never heard of the I'm fast forwarding through Teddy's seen it. It's on the ocean. No, I'm just looking house because I have the video that get it to. We're to do some investigative reporting. Right. Yeah. I need to see. I mean, she's got a wall of refrigerator, which I love, but I think on your rights and that it's in the hills. It looked like it was crazy. Yeah. It's so weird. How your mind that chicks your mind can play chicks that chicks nine to me? My mind. Derailing? I had I had. Yeah. But the century city driving here. Yeah. This century city in the background of view. Yeah. House goodbye, Google maps. Okay. So now, we're with her kids and at laughing Schrog yoga, which is funny because there was no frogs just goats, but that's fine. And then Renan's like my kids are doing mazing right now to lie the dog fancy and Amelie with the radio monthly catalogs. She's gonna be showing up next week in the east Tibor penny saver. And the goats jump on their backs. I mean, this is like my childhood. Aww, they show up at this yoga place is being led by an Australian lady, she's like orient ladies. And then we go to get in touch with your shockers in by the way. Here's some gets. So just to yoga and then get my jump on. You like how is this possibly supposed to relax you guessing that they knew my Lisbie Josie because she used to have a goat and growing up. My cousins would put me in the pen. And just see if I see no stop at making stuff up now. God. Okay. I turn. The bowling alley stories was like those are funny. I'm not sure if they're real. But now the your kit your cousins trapped you in the pan with a goat. Okay. Well, then just open the gate and put me in there and be like see if you can get out because the goat would come around. Guess what never lost a pound said? Let's not take off as an exercise. Yeah. That that being said, I don't understand how the goat is supposed to like augment the yoga experience. Maybe it's like that weight on your back. I don't understand any of it. But I loved it and every time ago jumped onto Reynoso back I cracked up because who thought we'd ever see Lisa Ridha doing yoga with a goat on her back. Eminent one point. She looks at the goat. And she's she makes that big wide open mouth. He's like. Looks at that. And over again. Gif of Lisa Renna looking back and forth from the goat. And at one point like the go there's like one good on her back is like another trying to go under lease like it was like a goat city, you know. And then the ladies leading the class, and they just want to only your body during this class honor the robotic you've got goats climbing all over these people kidding lead. People have lost a disk. But and then there's like a goat Yasser's goes nipping. And then like my favorite part was like at one point like one go just decide to go for it goes like fuck it. This is my chance to make a splash just like runs up like charity. Fire like dude it to do and it was like jumps up. I think it was on Amelia, maybe an inches wipes out. And like Amelia goes down the goat goes down. Like, it's just like I'm like this is not a real class, but it is perfection. Yeah. And then renaissance into her kids, and she's like, well, I'm surprised if Amelia because I mean, that's a kid. She couldn't even go outside because of rings -iety. Enough. Look at our New York year, she's not wearing tops on magazines. What a way so she's all excited. She's telling your kids this year, I'm backing down. And I don't know if that's because there's just sick of her showing up at every single event trying to, you know, voice dusters on people, or if people are just sick of watching Renan's daughter story lies, not really sure what we're maybe goats chat on her. And she's like what no more wacky scenes with me my daughters. They could. Thing. I've had I've had it with them get out. What does from shitting on you? While you're doing yoga. That's my other question. I don't know. I'm never doing yoga. I will never be able to answer that. I never say never. But I never all the time. Let's face. It amount is a never never doing go yoga. Okay, I'm traumatized. Well, anyways. Speaking of meditative experiences. We then go over to fin- rose, savannah. Pump is brushing her Pony's Bill. Good little pony. Walk. Little Terry Mankin. Good brush brush. How would you treat me like this Roni come on diamonds? Like don't put you in my face guy. God I'm on can comes out. She's like, no, boys. You are not having biscuits to slow that this was Vander prompts life walking around through animal to animal, you know. 'cause then this with some pack of dogs wanting her cookies like brushing animals, keeping biscuits away from animals talking about animals heading out over there like pulling out its own feathers. So mad that he missed the chance to get some trials. Can't go. Yeah. Thank you miss the prime biscuit earlier. So now, we talked about some super sad stuff. First off Gygi is really sick, which I mean, like, let's face it. I thought Gygi was bloods. I don't even know Jiechi was real. Jiechi in real life. I took a bowls. I mean, this has been on for about ten years now coming onto ten years. And so he's getting up there in the as so I don't know if we have not much more time left with with the jig Stor. He apparently he has a cold. And he's like, hey, lorries me says, and we saw that he was like in like an incubator. I mean this dog this is like I think he was captain a little glass box in their house. Wasn't it incubator? She's like, oh soup sake. He was having fainting spinners. We have to massage his chest and bring him back. Come tools that time. It's kind of like when you're remote starts to what's battery start to die. So you have to take out the batteries and put them back in again to to reestablish that connection. Yes, you're just tapping him on the head like an old TV. You're hitting like your buttons really hard like on change the channels. You can do there you go. Kim's like will imagine losing him right avenue running terrible anyone on running young. So this is this is sad. Because you know, it was you know, we we hit on it a little bit on van approvals. But they clearly were saving more for Beverly Hills. But, you know, Lisa's, Lisa's brother he committed suicide, and it's like, it's really sad. And we're really seeing the toll takes on Lisa injustice. Episode gosh, my heart breaks for her like, I me and recapping being assholes aside, whether you're team lease or not like that's just you know, that is something terrible to have to go through. So I really, you know, watching her just go to these emotions that's hard. That's hard to watch. Yeah. It's really sad. So let's skip it. Yeah. Kyle. I do want to say one thing though. She's like, you know, she was talking about how you know, like where I feel really bad for Lisa is that she is like so stereotypically British like does not wanna cry not want to be seen Christ upper lip and all that stuff. And she only two days off for the funeral. I was like this is not going to end welfare Lisa chilling took two days off to mourn yourself back to work. It's can be bad. Yeah. And it is already in so Kyle. Because this is what two months after that happened sound like two or three months after. Yeah. So Kyle is at her house and looking herself in the mirror and just trying to figure out what's wrong with her face. Okay. It's because you stab yourself too much in the face of bowtie occa- we've been saying it for years like we were talking about carry this week about keeping Bo talks in her house. And how one is always looking off the other way started with Kyle. Because he always had kind of crossed is. But now she's getting the Abby Cohen, I you know, I have that to you which I think is our karma for talking about this show. Like, I've got one key. I now bizarre. I wonder if it's just your city person on or about Bravo. You just get a wonky on is just stops. You know, she's like, I'm still having issues. My I'm what my one is bigger than the other. I don't think you have like late in life like sudden high-growth were shrinkage d-. Yeah. Because I suffer from generalized anxiety disorder MC shut up Kreil. Okay. Generalized anxiety disorder known as GED Gad as an own my God counter going off MoMA. So teddy shows up, and we learned that like teddy and Kyle have been like really really just like becoming besties lately, and they took a boxing class with Justin Bieber, and they were really excited about it. So I mean, listen seeing Justin Bieber exercise class that does bond you, so I get it. I get it. I guess I think being completely base models bonds you, you know, so they're boring and they're boring friends. And so like, yeah, we've really grown, and then they're talking about the security of their house and cows like, well, I guess now it's good now that the securities actually hooked up that your husband did it because when they had gotten security before, but it wasn't hooked up yet. So that's when they got robbed. Yeah. And then there's also like a mountain lion. That's been hanging around too. So this is what's going on 'cause life. She got she got she got like, whatever. That's she got. Never mind she has a mountain lion. This is our life. It's Robin LA mountain lion. Because it like only comes to make fun of her wonky. I doesn't even try to eat her. It's doing yoga in the back. Insist on gluten-free rabbits. Hi. It's gluten free rodents. No, okay. Well, I'm just move onto the next house. Thanks. It's leeann we can go. Boring too boring to that the boring it back into the canyon. I I feel a little gross about this. But are your rodents gluten free? I just I just wanna know my little pride here. We just wanna make sure eating properly now. Okay. I'm sorry. Should get into policy about that. Then so next step is Erica, doing her typical getting ready for people who came all the way to Pasadena. She's unwrapping a tray of cookies from the pantry together. Yeah. Getting some Sampras at and it's Duri, which you know, God bless to read. I'm glad she afford the gas to get here. Yeah. I was impressed. Suppress remitted all the way to Pasadena. She's going to start getting some new accents out. She's like, but never thought country speaking different exit now Pasadena passer pass it. I'm from Dana. My new accent? From dona. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm like deranged right now doing Lena's. Bob cat to read from Pasadena, barely even make sense. Oh, well, let's just to see Therese face. The shell shock having become all the way to Pasadena. She looks upset this whole drive. She looks like between upset and mad and just completely be wilder d-. She's like, oh, she probably thought she was going to be the dean L. Edina. It's pasadena. And so Eric I thought we'd be seeing some Broadway by now. So Eric is. You look at. Back to see got champagne. I just wanted to stop this on the back blast. You know, what I'm saying girl? So she's like this is like half of my house, everyone that Michelin man that you live with PK because wonderful is on tour, and he's wonderful. We're all doing wonderful. We took a wonderful Rocketship ride. The other day. It was fabulous. Someone keeps calling my house and ask him for Marcus though. It's really confusing. Because for those of you who don't know. PK is in a lot of trouble gay. He's got a lot of debt that he's not paid. And he has three million dollars. He owns to the Balaj casino. And he thought that was included in his bankruptcy, which no sorry dickhead. Your gambling addiction is not covered a bankruptcy. And then they're being sued by Therese web suit partner for never paying him for doing all that work. He did for her and that still has the balls to wear one of those bathing seize on this show. Wow. That's yeah. It's a lot. I didn't realize it was even I don't know. I I thought there was about each thing. I don't think I realized about the Balaj. Oh, wow. So well. There's another one point six that's trying to get you. So these two are in trouble. I mean, I don't know how much boy George's making. But it's not well and add insult injury. Read has had a shitty past few days because we were away and we discovered that we've been robbed all my handbags on my jewelry. I'm like three. Are you really stealing? Kyle's offseason storyline. Also like that's not right. She's feeling both. Kyle's off-season story line. And Lisa Vander pumps insurance scheming. So how do we deal with it? I went to Utah. Crazy. I went to you. Climbed a mountain me. It was this mental breakthrough. Hit a flip this week's and gas came into the thing. The cue are still fucking crazy as ever. Took too many of those gas view, GMs I'm gonna I'm going to a song about it called climb. Every mountain totally regional. I'm lost me paint. This is so they take a picture, and she's like a religion. It's the religion to male religious afoul hailed from losing your persons. And then boom, you gotta spanking new check in the mail to pay some of that debt. So you can keep your house another month. Oh, wow. I mean, come on to some insurance scheming. If I've ever heard it, listen here state farm. I hope you're investigating Sarah's like, so how's how's the all big? She's got a purse. They're talking about Phoenix three-star has a person recyc- she has more than mummy right now. And they just laugh. Ha and Erica goes because somebody still young yet. I joke. Like that internet me with arrows pointing up that was the job. I haven't seen that. But yeah. So Vanda pump. Guess who's here Jaji? You NC hugs one of the queen's there, and she's like Slade is obsessed with dog. So once a week we go onto Vander pump dogs. We don't have to commit to a dog because you know, I'm ready. Every time I read every dog 'cause I'm very responsible. Hi, I'm teddy. And so the gays are like, oh, my cocker, welcome. And they're talking about. Yeah. And one of the games like house event. She's like, well, here's the story. This is what I do. I do charity rides where I host charity rides for gyms. And as I get closer with Vander pump. It only makes sense that I do one for Vander bump dogs and become friends with all her gay friends. Oh, what are we setting up here? This is a pretty intense story. What are we setting up here? And I love what we're setting up. We also meet the other a new day because the guy the guy who works at pump dogs of your met his name is John right? Or is it day? So his name is John. But then we also meeting it's John yet. Because then when then there's another gay his name is also job, but he's John blizzard, which to me is like a failed porn surname. So I think it's just like hilarious. There's someone named John blizzard who works at. The man with a tiny scrunched up nuts owed of the business. The code in. The other must be some John lizard in the atmosphere. Golden here or John blizzard Matt's dysfunction anyone. So Kyle and Porsche arrive, and they're all like, they're these like. These puppies are so absurdly adorable, and they're just like playing with them. You know, it's like puppy porn. And everyone's like oh. And then John the original John he comes over. He's like, listen, I got new fillers for this scene. And I'm going to knock it out of the park right here. Look at this dog recognize her recognize her. Stope? I to vary. Clearly, don't talk about it. The cameras are on do not talk about it. I said he's like, okay. Then nothing nothing. Like, what does that mean? What does that mean? Guys. What does it mean? She's like something shooting just happen here. Why everyone's staring at me. I'm talking about this dog. Okay. I mean, I thought that they Resnick was never going to be a cast member. Get it. And the kids like on it and the kids like this is to reach dog and crowds. Like is it just getting groomed? And he's like, no she's back and the kid at the dog. I mean, something that does seem true. But at the stories with that dog bites people because you hear the dugout. Wouldn't you? If your name was Lucy, Lucy, apple juice. Lizzy apple juicy apple juice. They didn't even bother time to see the rhyme through. Oh, good are-. That's So Jerry Lee probably got stand for the last fly. They came in. They came into back the last why because he owed the alphabet money. Let's see. Apple juice. I you can't sit you see up. Yeah. What the hell? So they're like, oh my God jury brought this back. I do not want to talk about this one thousand percent it's handled. I said I don't want to talk about the bitch. And I'm not talking about Lee, see get it. Welcome to the candy factory. So she's like three talk to the dog from Vanda pump dogs that ended up dot dot dot in that shelter. That's shadow ta da show. And the south alerted us because we have microchips in all of our dogs, and we found out that they had one of our dogs. But she does that's what she's telling us. But in front of everybody else. She's like you guys. This is not a thing. This is not a story. This is not a story line. It's handled I dealt with this last week. It's over. Yes. John. Is there anything you'd like to say right now that I would disapprove of 'cause I disapprove of it. But if you'd like to say, you should say, I know exactly what time disproving please fuels. I would really disapprove of you saying Malul runs with who've ever hate if you said something it's off on this. But you know, what though? That it is really bad that that happened. You know, like if you adopt a dog like, you know, the proper protocol, especially or at least as we learned with with dogs is if it doesn't work out you bring it back, and like your the whole thing is you don't want to be in a shelter, and that's bad. It does make business look really bad. And it's it's like like ideologically against everything that she's been fighting for. So I actually think like so far, Mike. Okay. I get it. I understand at least it would be pissed if that's what the thing is going to be about, you know. Yeah. Well, I read so many things about this before it ever happened. There's so many stories going around, but to hear how they're framing it on the show, you know. And or really I thought it was going to have a perfectly good reasoning. Right. Says she to talking to Erica. She's like we did this job pooping. It was not the right fit for the family after Lucy bit the kids a few times and take an. Junk PK's space, and then they show this picture of PK with like a little bloody little plot. Listen, listen, he looks like he looks like Kibble. Okay. Can't blame the dog. I know I looked at PK space, smells like that dog basic to keep eating. God I'm so mean got got considering we're talking about dogs. We're certainly being catty. Physical appearances. I take it back. I'm sorry PK. I don't I have the chance to make it work. Guys can make fun of other chupi guys. Like you make jokes. Yes, I'm done with PK's phase come eat a little in my neck. I could use it to. The real the real funny thing there is that like, yeah, he definitely has like like, scratch whatever, but they're acting as if he was like like she was like a huge by it as if like his teeth would be exposed to cheek. Yeah. No kidding, skeleton, half skeleton phase. So she's like well here, I am thinking this dog was being put into a beautiful home. I think it's a cool from Lisa Lisa. Fanta. Poop seems to settle. I mean, I found this lovely lady her name is Shelly. And I thought. Shelley her has a wonderful wonderful home downtown with other lovely dogs. I said Shelly invited you to go have some salts. Would you like to go with? The apple juice e. Terribles eric. Bad. Thinks she was mad at me just concerned to the gay like, I am Gary at that with that handle prominent I. Come down. So it's like God is gonna is is not volt. She can't pitches dumb as a rock. I don't want to talk about it. Look at me like that. I mean, you're saying it's fine. But. She should have come to you first. 'cause she's close enough. She could have done that. And had some accountability. That's just what I'm saying. Tabby sounds like she wasn't all in with teddy Mellencamp about this dog. So then John that's when John's like the thing is I'm past, and I've been dealing with this for a week doing with this is your job like you talked to other shelter. Yeah. Congratulations. You're doing your job and Vander probes. Like, maybe into reits mind. It was going to a good home. And she only meant well. But she happens to be sitting right beside a cert on Iraq. That says her that tagline were I love dogs. I'm just not crazy about but. Jeez. So then Lisa like has to like ghosts like a different she she goes upstairs with with her guys. And that's when Teddy's tastes telling like, you know, so become really close with like Johnny blizzard. I'm like, hi, I'm Ted. He's like, hi, I'm Johnny blizzard. I'm like really really so we're close now, and like your he told me and he's like don't tell anyone. So I'm like, I'm not gonna tell anyone, but we're tell you right now on camera because that doesn't count okay? Someone already told someone's going to tell somebody now again again, and I was like what is this? What are they friends NASA? They both have to wear terrible Kaftan sundress things at the same time. Like, what is this terrible? Ambi? I actually liked what they're wearing. I was like summer. Yes. Oh basely. Teddy tells teddy tells Kyle that that Lisa was actually super super pissed about this whole thing. And Lisa tells us very clearly in her talking heads. She's like this no way to read would have given that dog away to be dropped off a shelter. I one thousand sent. But he that. Yeah. So then upstairs really all this dog is funny. But really my favorite part happens when they go upstairs, and they're like just like talking and Lisa Lisa's are saying how teddy came to. She's like he came to my restaurant and goes, which one this is like my new one that opening that you've never seen. You may have heard about it. It's called nanny ks neighborhood bond. Green. It's golden any came any k. Kyle just like I just love their college is like walked right into that travel all over again. Then we see three weeks earlier were there at the tom-tom opening, and and then we cut back, and she's like I really wanted you to come that night. Kyle you are full of shit. And I'm not gonna do this with you right now. I'm not going to do with you. You can the plane. I was on a four in the morning, and you said, it's not even your body. You didn't invite everyone, and blah, blah, blah. But then Kyle we Custer confessionals. She's like Daily Mail had a party at Lisa's new restaurant, and I just got in from Europe. And I was too tired to go. So which is it because Kyle's all over the place. Now, even Twitter saying that she was never even invited to this thing. And that was the point. It wasn't Lisa's partying car wasn't invited. Lisa's just trying to make her look bad on camera. So what does it Kyle? 'cause this is coming from your own damn math now. Yeah. And this is a really important fight for us because we'll probably be referencing the whole rest of the season. Like that time riches didn't go to the Tom Tom party. So I don't care, but she just admitted she was invited and said she was too tired to go. Yeah. You know? So. The but to credit Lisa is being totally crazy. Well, that they're both being crazy. 'cause I Kyle is like, you know, I was tired. And you know, what you can be a bitch about it to me. Okay. But then like, you're a Bishop about me not going this party, but into Rica drop a dog, and it's like, oh, she didn't mean it. I'm not gonna do again. I'm not gonna do and she storms off. Doing. John Vander from both at the same time. No. Also, if she says, I really wish you could have come and all you have to say his lease. I told you I was coming back from Europe at four in the morning. I was exhausted. I'm sorry. I couldn't come to and. About house. I'm making you look stupid on camera. You dope. Yeah. Exactly. And then you have to thank her for using the agency to help her find that location. Oh, wait. You didn't use the agency for that? Oh, so that's what you do. So then Lisa meanwhile is like Lisa course is not going to let the only ridiculous burst. And she's like I working on that restaurant for a year, and you have to come by once like it wasn't done yet. And I support that like why would Kyle go to a boarded up old place. I mean, admittedly James is mom got to go to Tom Tom before Kyle. But still I think that Kyle's actually like she doesn't have I played we hadn't seen people go through but nails on the floor in her fucking store. You're right wasn't. Then I don't know Kyle with me because even when she's most furious, and I can almost see her point. She's just such a dick about it. She's like in the history of our friendship like she always takes opportunity to make me look bad. Haven't even done anything like Jesus not making you look bad. She just said she wished you could have been there. What is so terrible. So Lisa van terms over a new leaf because now there's bickering bickering bickering at Lisa's. Let me try something as. Of you. And she starts to cry. I was like, whoa. This is strange. Yeah. Cows like fucking act like it. I've been there for you. Every second don't applic- I haven't I mean, I can act like you have it would name today's but we've got a whole season. So we'll save them up Vander prompt Christ. Come back who me. So she starts crying, which was actually like it was it was actually like we're joking about it. But it's sort of sad moment 'cause you could tell this was like really what's going on with Lisa's like this like grief is really taking over her. And so they're talking and 'cause like, no, it's fine. I was away and you're away. And this is like I was away. I was in London funeral and 'cause like, yeah. And shit going onto my Kyle. When someone says I was in London for a funeral. And you know, the reason why you just let them have the period on the sentence. Not the comma. Yeah. I know your brother died, I was on vacation totally the same thing. We had an Airbnb reservation, you know, a lot going on. Like, well, I think you're just depressed. Okay. You're please. Give me a brain benefit from. Lashes own. This is I mean, we know Lisa's in place because she was not only crying and public. But she was allowing yourself to be shot from below on the staircase. So wow. And Teddy's like, that's what happens when you hold everything in for instance, imagine if I walked up and said, hi. See weird right here. I'll do it again high teddy much better. The next step arenas over her house. Preparing for a party Lorraine is in there making some Walker something and she takes rented takes off the plastic on a cheese plate, and it's like oh. The one hundred there the whole time. We'll know what's gonna eat them any way. It's sort of like every chicken salad, Kim Richards has made so many trapped flies. So Denise Richards comes and rented does that new that new friend. Hello where she's. Loan from like thirty years, right? We each other for like a million years up. Shelter for a million more. You baby without love. What would you? Family ties to my right. I years when there's a new cast members just like I mean, we've known each other for like thirty years. My right. Like, I literally just met you today. Yeah. We both did Melrose place together. Remember that part? Do you have a drink? Calling it. Now, Denise is going to be a huge less very excited for this gay heard like rumors of this that I came out wait for the we need a new on this. Okay. Beverly Hills is only complete if there's one sloppy mess on it. Yes. Thank you. So is like Denise will write it with this group because these seasonal bitch. Like, I am. Baby. She's like I made a cucumber juice or you can just have it straight up. She's like like the tequila straight up. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. So then to re comes over and she's like. I'm a hugger. Are you? And Erica comes over to. And when it goes, you girls better eat something. I have a cheese plate that has all sorts of fly poop on it. Go. E gold, glimpses and joy. Erika's anybody drinking drinking odd Rankin? Denise is like I've tequila. Yeah. I kinda go alone. So they start talking about two nieces career. And you know, what you know? How long's she been doing things and like an Eric, and how long will you'll and Charlie novel again, which I would never ask like I would not want to bring Charlie Sheen up with Denise Richards. But she's like, it's fine. It's fine. Four and a half years. Whatever. It was like. Littered molten on the phone 'cause he's gonna like this one. He looked my toes. That's how it opened my toes. We see like a scene like Charlie Sheen leaking Renault toes and staring at the camera. Really? It was like nightmarish Erica Erica. Sometimes does speak for me. Which is so weird because I never really warmed to her that much. But then sometimes I'm like this bitch gets me because she's. That ships ripples. Yes. Me too. I love that movie. And Denise is like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I got pretty much screwed over on that one because they didn't think America goes bond. Yeah. If that was JAMES BOND. Yeah. But then they talked about her being Christmas, doctor Christmas Jones, whatever JAMES BOND. Handed me that one because they didn't think I could be erica's like. Yeah. I wish they had reference while because that is actually my favorite. Denise Richards, movie of all that was a great movie Neve Campbell to like one of her best to Theresa Russell. I mean, perfect grab one great great movie. So meanwhile, over at crustacean, Lisa can read and PK show up for lunch. And as they're all sitting down. Lisa is just giving PK the nastiest look like so nasty. It was fabulous. I mean. Yeah. She's and we see wise conversation unfolds. He's like could you Cain? Yes. Small look smaller than me you big me there. And then. Puts her hand on his arms, and she's like oh. And. He. Vanderbilt go you have baby hands. Catholic t shave them and goes, I'll shave my arms and my hands and she just van just stuff. Some she goes why would you do that? Good. Bye here. And he's like, why wouldn't I to that? Because it's fucking weird PK a. So then they start having this like Duri giving Lisa that look like all her baby. Like, she's giving her that like just sympathy. Look, but also confused because Vander pump cannot hide when she's icy and. Compartmentalize and I'm moving on. I can't ever bring him back. So let's not discuss it anymore. Absolutely, sir. Now, let's talk about your brother's death. She's like. Did his funeral start on time? I would give it to next forty seven minutes. Lisa. I'm so glad you've been compartmentalizing. I'm Marie recon too to. So Vander prompts like listen, I want to clear this dog thing. And then we'll have some tuna tat. And PK Android, of course. No, this is coming. So they're like, okay. So this is like now, I know you had no bad intent none whatsoever. My employees may say something else. And the absolutely do not speak for me because I know you had no bad in teams and PK's like, well, I think it's very weird concert say didn't mean we bloody welded it. She's like, and that is why I have defended you it is on camera multiple times. And she's like what Lisa. The woman came over. Kiss a woman that had come to the house wanted. This is a story. My correct woman you have never met named Shelley to Cam to the house, and you lighter handbags, he said, oh that would make a great home for this dog. Is that correct? So Doritos us spoke to Lisa the day. After the popular we found this wonderful woman and. And. With the best intentions. Okay. This is such bullshit. You just found this wonderful woman. Really? Where'd you find this wonderful woman? Why aren't you telling us where your receipts? Okay, I want at least a copy of Craigslist ad. I also think there's something weird about the fact that like if the dog has bitten your children and your husband that you're like, oh, yeah. Go go take this dog. That's like, I don't know. It also makes me feel like, you know, like why why was PK up in this dog's face, by the way. Like, I'm wondering how are they treating this like not like I don't think they were treating the dog badly. But it makes me wonder like do they know how to deal with like a rescue? You know, I don't know the whole thing just had so many question marks around it for me. I couldn't tell how old the dog was because it looked like a puppy. And if you have a puppy, you know, puppies are that's they bite you all they play and stuff, and I've really sharp teed. I don't know if this is like a puppy. That's been abused is like really going at them. I mean, we have no idea because the information we're getting his so. Yeah. But there's just. Typically. Manicured and everyone's like trying to protect each other with their stories. And so we know really know what the real story is. It's gonna this one's now. It's like total bullshit something like not. Yes. Something fresh. Evers? Oh who fucking cares because they're already talked about it on camera. So it was going to come out. It's not like it was some big huge secret. So, but yeah, I'm really now really getting confused. Yeah. So basically, they're talking about this NPR will it's a mistake that can be made by anyone making much trillion. It's mistakes that could be made by any whatever I can't, you know, actually, it's not became. That's what we do. And that's why we have very stringent rules and regulations and five thousand dollar penalty. So things like that do not happen. I mean, he's like, yes. But happen to win your best friends because I know he goes so it can be made economy me. No you fucking piece of shit. No. You can't just take. Let's dog off wherever you want just because you're friends with her how that works asshole. And it's like a little. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know if to reach says it here or later on. But she pulls a Theresa Jude is she's like that, you know, PK night, we didn't need. There's all these fine print. We didn't necessarily read. All the fine print. It's like, well, whose fault is that like if you're signing a contract, especially for contract and your celebrity you don't like have a lawyer just look at it. I mean come on now. And he is a manager. He's used to reading contracts and reading like details, I would hope while I just thought I guess I was expecting this to be really Vander pump getting Pissy about something little and making a huge thing. I would not be socked if that happened. But then to hear PK to read just like, we didn't know we were supposed to just not give it to some fucking Rando when he's like. So what it's a mistake. It happen anybody, and you should you should just forget about it. Just because his jury period, you know, it's like you're such an asshole about it that it makes it's gonna make everybody completely knob on your side should be like we are. So sorry. We're so embarrassed. That's what the that's what the that's what the what the vibe should be like coming from him. You know? And because especially like, I think this is once Lisa said there's a five thousand dollar penalty. Like, I don't know how this is all going to play out. But once you hear there's five thousand dollars involved. That's when I'm like, oh, this is when it's can start to become thing. Because either they're going to the five thousand or Lisa raise the five thousand dollar debt. And then it's become a thing. Like, Lisa, man. Like, we don't want to be the five thousand once that money elements came in like, oh, here's where the real issues gonna come from. Yeah. She's like in line with the casino. She's like me, and Mr. Bellagio would like a private meetings. Yeah. So then so then Lisa's like got heated at the center, and I want you to know that. And I tried to shut it down. I was like please stop. And they didn't listen to me. And I just want to know people talking about it at which point the biggest bombshell of all drops on real house was Beverly Hills. John lizard has been speaking today Mellencamp turns her own. He's very close and friendly with teddy okay now. So all the stuff that. I would like to order some tiny little, that's please. Okay. Back to the conversation. You're interrupted. No. She's just that Tom blizzard thing happened. But also now that they're all going to turn against Andropov. Let's point out that teddy was pretty open about talking about this on camera and bringing it up over and over again, even after leases at not too. So let's just keep that in mind and injury keeps going and then recyc- I want to private Matt brought up and discussed by anyone especially teddy on TV where this is all playing out anyway. Yes. And so at least she tells us Lisa metex saying today was aware of the dog situation. But Nash is talking about it. I was like oh God. So of course, it's not you who did a shitty thing. It's about who's talking about you doing shitty. Yeah. They're also making it sound like teddy finding out about it is like a quivalent to like this getting the hands of Putin or something like like, not not really the end of the world. Yes. So she's I thought we was fun. I don't understand what has a different to-. Now. She's telling you that people talked about it on camera. You're gonna she told him not to and she's warning you so that you don't feel blindsided when you hear all this shit coming back at you on camera, and I'm actually disappointed, then I'm already fighting in favor of Lisa because it's not as STAN moment. I'm just like is this it is fucking. I really thought they were gonna catch. Lisa in something. Yeah. But maybe they will maybe they will is time goes on. But for now, we're back to Fe with huge ugly flowers. Continue ruined any home that she can get her hands on our cows pool. Party fair has worn her best garish vertical stripes like she just like big. Office building dress. So yeah, they're getting ready for the big pool party just to make it feel like home at last. Another thing. I have to point out about miss Kyle. She's like in the beginning. She shows up Lisa's car. Lease. It's like it was someone copying me with that. It's a different color. Lisa. You don't copyright a car. Okay. You can't just copyright a car, which is funny because you know, that's always Kyle stealing shit visited color. And then we go to her house where we see a pink swing in her backyard is true. That is true. So teddy and Edwin arrive Edwin dressed, like a backstreet boy, I'm like I feel like as an accountability. Coach it's time for teddy to enact some accountability for when they're a little bit. That was not this is not this is not a look that was doing him any favors just wrote teddy and families stupid hats. Yeah. Exactly. Also, I didn't see Glenn at this party. You know? Are they had many? They had many glam. It was like he looked like Len. But he was like maybe like thinner, and he's a shark uteri expert. Maybe the new house is like out of the Glenn zone. You know, like when you when you moved to a new apartment, and now the restaurant that you always love doesn't liberty you anymore. Maybe that's what happens. Yeah. They're like, I'm sorry. We can't get the fat burger truck all the way to NC. No time. I'm sorry. You're out of the Glenn range. Yes. Oh, Kremlin teddy talk. And it's boring. I mean Cam comes in, and I'm like grandma already hates these people. Yeah. Right. It Camille comes in. And she you can tell she doesn't really even like I mean, she doesn't like Kyle teddy anymore because she doesn't give them the more. Normally. Yeah. Which is awkward. I felt really awkward. Yeah. Very much. So then Ren and Denise Richards show up and Kyle explained that she met Denise awhile ago 'cause they're in a mom's group with like she was in a group with Renna, and and needs Richards and Allie Andrine, Allison Sweeney. Sounds like a failed pilot to me. I know I was like wasn't this on TV land. Also, I think this was a failed reality show pilot. Personally. I'll tell you what s Denise Richards, boyfriend Rohrer. Yeah. I was like, well, I need Charlie Sheen. And he happened to be best friends with my boyfriend and c Thomas Howell. I unless you say, I wasn't happy. When my boyfriend, Charlie. Never knew that they bring home or what they bring home flips her hair. I'm like well that explains your wonky. I it's like latent leading dorm in Charlie Sheen. I've iris so. So now, we see to read with Jagger. She just with jacker they arrive and three it's like in the past. I've been the target of attacks from teddy Teddy's said your leads. Combs into tax from TV. But you know, we see the attack and it's teddy screaming hurt the reunion going. It's like she doesn't even remember what happened and has no idea what's going on. And you're like oh. And what he tells us independent of me mind. I know that teddy news about the dog suggestion has going to talk to me about this. So then, but the good news is that Intel as kids are like totally getting along. I think like Jagger calls slate like a weirdo face or something. Maybe it's a cruise. I don't know. Why did you why are you making that weirdo phase? And he goes this is my face. I already had this case. So Lisa Leeson can arrive in if you notice did you see they brought. Strove nicholas. I can tell you is there because his wife with the shock of red hair came with him. I was like, wow, she brought the maestro to the party. Wow. She really loves Sinoe. Home. In case, you thought there was any bad blood between us I've had nicotine does o'clock for your terrible. So we see that like, I guess Denise Richards had made a cameo on the show a few years ago, totally forgotten about where and where at least it was talking to her and apparently lease. She's like my my connection to Charlie Sheen. Is that Bill Cosby are stolen someone stole my car driven off a cliff cliff and with my dry cleaning as well, which I never got back and by dry cleaning. I mean, Sedgwick. Who would have done such a again, I mean being? And. Doritos feeling really awkward van? Oh, Tori, eat. Oh, my Odri you'd look rate which bathing suit is that it. The loss little girl in New York City. Sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm wearing these headphones. These really bad headphones today, and it's hard for me to hear out of them. So sorry, go ahead say Kyle sitting there, and she's like, oh, I'm feeling a lot of guilt because we're all having this conversation about to read the dog. And now we're just talking with her as nothing went wrong. Like, car Richards. She's given up here. She goes about to start. Episode one going straight for the going straight for the throat, and she's like, I mean, not carrying an animal. You get a rep like that this town, and you're screwed. Yeah. Guess what she got her up for that? Because she didn't care for the animal. Why are we making this up like at some lie that yeah, you know, to say it was a mistake and move on meanwhile of like picnic table, Erica Renna? This is Larry because there was a senior earlier is like, hey, baby hot dog and hamburger and two more hot dogs. I think it was Maria was like, wow, I did not know about you. That's how you did. Your your barbecues. And she's like, yeah, baby. And then they cut to the scene where like Eric Renna are like sitting there with her hotdogs not with a bun taking like delicate like slicing it for connive style. Like the most unbiased way of eating a hot. Hand. It's also kind of showing how much these two have to offer the season which kills me to say. But last year, they didn't have a whole lot to offer and this year, they're sitting there having this conversation, and Eric is like. Scotia renaissance. Yeah, love it. Good hotdog like once or twice a year me to twice a year. Really, this is your storylines. No wonder you all fucking joined up. I feel like I just I like the way they talk about hot dogs like it's like an all night bender your of bender or or a hot dog. So then Vander from talking to and she's, you know, she's in her typical don't hug me out invention in a pink satin dress like for Easter and the hot pink like sunhat thing, which is her non hugging app, which she said on the show, and she's like, so Denise, however, the all children and do they have. Fourteen thirteen of the sevens youngest she's adopted. I talked it mine as well. Surely, yours knows that she's adopted and he's like, well, she thinks Charlie Sheen is her dad and the Vanderbilt Gez could he be? Sorry, kid you. Slept around so much. And but Denise doesn't get it. She's like, no he's adopted. Does. She does kinda look like now that you say, but Jane doesn't belong in this cast because she's not offended immediately by Vanderbilt. Everybody else's come on this show is a Midi like fucker conc- said that about my child. Yeah. We need for Denisa sparkle, but more personality. But it's just the first episode sometimes people need a few episodes to warm up. So. Yes. And then we see Camille telling Lisa that she's excited to be getting married because you know, like, you know, it says sad. It's hard for me to talk. When someone's not talking over me joke telling me. Does that Tammy coming? Chiwetel grad can just it. So glad ING such face. I love that. Camille, couldn't even get one-sentence out funny. Sorry didn't pick up on it. I was like oh my God. I didn't write much down that Camille said, okay? But then got the right off. She's like kademi are you excited to get married community? We. It's been. Eight years. After you've been good enough about rates. Frazier Peralta way, Rodway dumped pretty much pretty much the red carpet and tell the food of slept with even. Instruct so setting. Okay. I'm thank you. So meanwhile, Sophia goes up to him on can I post this video of Ken napping on Instagram, and then we can share? We like Carl. Goodbye. And 'cause like, yeah. I mean, he doesn't follow you. So it's fine. It doesn't bother me. I was like I cannot believe that if if that were my kid saying can I take a picture of like kinda take input Instagram? I'd be like absolutely not like that was I was I was like a little gas. I was like, yeah. Totally do what he doesn't follow. You. He doesn't bother you anyways to do it. And totally to me like, it's one. I don't know. I just feel like it's it's one thing if Kyle wanted to do it because it's for him. But if it's your kid your kid does not get to mock euro, friends sorry. I mean. Because it seems like that's like uncle, can you know, 'cause there. That's the vibe if that's the vibe, then fine. But I still think it's like, I think that was I think that was goes. Well, we also just went through a season of real housewife of Atlanta with that. I'm still traumatize. It's like, oh my God. So then Kyle is like well, see it's like, yeah. Jury doesn't folly and guess what? Doritos probably either teddy. She starts cracking up and Ted. He's like, oh, no. He says he doesn't follow you either teddy meaning Cam and the kids like he doesn't probably there and teddy goes neither does to read she used to. But then she was like by your teddy. So. So. Where does it potential in me to follow? You. Let us see how the cookie crumbles Soroush at cookie lady on a diet. Always. Snow all the women's like have like a seat on these steps, and they're just like chatting and stuff and talking about like when they were younger the things that like times of change and with the fundings do when they were younger and teddy saying how when she was young. The big thing was to go drink some boons farms, two dollar wine at cetera. And it just goes winning which case everyone's like that's awkward because it's ups Charlie Sheen phrase, and then it's fine. It's fine. I'm just going to laugh through these tears right now. It's fine. It's fine. But they all act like it such a big deal. They all mentioned Charlie the first time, they met Denise. So then Teddy's alike who would think that saying the word winning would make me feel like a loser? Hi, I'm teddy. I'm like everyone thought that because no one says it anymore, and if you're still saying winning, you know, like eight years after the stupid phrase came into pop culture, you are in fact leasing and it was so funny because right after that everyone's like, well, gotta go home. Check on the kids. Officially closed. His party down party was already boring, but teddy just outdid did herself with a winning. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. The only that could be more embarrassing than teddy saying winning. If child went actually it's being in the pool. Which you know, didn't start World War three because we've already had a kid being in the pool story on this episode of this show with Rambis kid peed on a tree or something a pool party. Oh, yeah. And Kyle was just shocked and grossed out, but I guess, it's okay. 'cause it's her fried. Now, you know, at least Nobis were harmed in this party. Somewhere like emerging from. Jeez. So Vander pumping Kyle air, kiss and crowds. Like that was such a Hollywood kids. Lisa. I can't get near you. Which is in tireless intentional. Still got it. That was fun. What an amazing amazing. So I'm interested to hear people's thoughts. This season goes on because I already know I'm going to get a lot of comments. Standing for these which totally fine to take. I will go anti when my heroes do something wrong. And she has a lot of times in the past. But I just I'm just I was actually excited to see people bring something real because every season is something with trying to bring down van pub-, you know, and I'm all for my favorites being taken down. Sometimes it makes them more fun. You know, but I just I don't have a lot of hope in this one. It seems that they're going to do it this time around, you know. So we'll see you guys. Thank you for listening to watch crap in dot com to to go. 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Ep 44 Moving Consultant Margaret Vandergriff

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Ep 44 Moving Consultant Margaret Vandergriff

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So save money this holiday season while you get your ear buds on go to tweaked audio dot com and put in listener code m three three for great headphones at one third off. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the midlife mix tape podcast where together we overcome the indignity of waking up in the morning and thinking how did I pull a muscle from sleeping? How does that happen? I hope you guys are rolling into December. Okay. And that the music carols haven't gotten to yet. I heard two thousand miles by the pretenders see other day. And I got choked up. So I think it's a good sign. I'm not totally numb yet. This is Nancy by the way. In today's episode is all about dreams, and specifically dream homes. Those places we seek where the rent or the mortgage is affordable. The weather is agreeable. And the neighbors aren't certify -able. I thought it was a good topic for the show because aren't we at a point in our lives where we deserve to live at least where we want to. We may not have everything else going for us. But we ought to be able to live where we want to. So my guest today is Margaret Vander graph. Margaret helps clients who are ready for a new adventure. Find a place to live that supports the life. They want she founded harvest moon. In coaching in two thousand sixteen after a disastrous empty nest moving experience shed light on the need for a reliable and unbiased system to guide the search for the right place to live by adapting tools and strategies she developed over twenty five years as a nonprofit grants consultant Margaret created the find your happy place system to help empty nesters. Take the guesswork out of their search save time and money looking and feel confident they'll thrive in the place. They choose. So let's on-roll the bubble wrap and catch up with Margaret. I'm here today with Margaret Vander Griff of harvest moon coaching. Thanks for coming on the show, Margaret. Thanks, nancy. It's really great to be here. There's lots of interest from well from me. But also from my listeners about how you do moving consulting. So I have lots of questions. But of course, we always start with the first question on the midlife McStay podcast. What was your first concert, and what were the circumstances? Yes. So my first concert was when I was thirteen with with my friend eve and her guitar teacher. We I lived in San Francisco, and I remember we went down. I guess it was maybe Palo Alto. It was censored outdoor concert area. And we went to see Joan Baez. Oh, no. We were into our little folk folk music. It's har- we played acoustic guitar in saying, and so it was like it was great. It was great to just go there, and we all sat on the grass surrounded by people with their picnics and. And there she was on stage belting out or best stuff. Do you still? Listen to Joan I haven't listened to her in a really long time. It really takes me back like just talking about it just takes me back to being a teenager because that was a big part of my teenage life because I went on from from playing acoustic guitar and singing, and I went onto briefly major in classical guitar, so it was like she started on the whole guitar track. And then I sort of got off that track. I feel like I read an article with her recently where she said she's on her last tour or maybe she's had her last tour. Oh, well, you never know that people say that. And then they come back. There's always some reason to come back in. Oh, I was thinking about our call today. And I was thinking about songs about houses because you probably you could have a theme song if you wanted and I was thinking about little pink houses our house by Crosby Stills Nash union. I don't know if you've ever like thought of putting together a house playlist, but was thinking burning down the house. But as you, and I are reporting on what I hope will be the last day of toxic air in Oakland. That's not the right song be thinking about today. But there's got there's got gotta be some other good. I'm gonna work on a playlist for you. I can't help it. That's just that's going to be happens. We'll Margaret let's talk about this moving consulting that you do. What is it? And why do people come to you for and especially for midlife is why are we thinking about moving in what help do we need? I help people navigate their search and figure out the best places to move. And I do this. I provide tools and resources and support to guide in a system through the dreaming planning research and deliberation phases of their search. So they can feel confident they'll be happy in the place. They choose and the reason it's so helpful to have a moving consultant to guide you on your search is because let's face it. It's it's a jungle out there. When you go online. It's just as wild west, you know, of opinions and noise, and there's no real clear way to figure out which places you'd like best is just an it's really easy to get caught up in all the hype and lose sight of what's really most important, which is is what you need to be happy living someplace, and so when you do get caught up in all that it's really dangerous because it can lead to expensive mistakes from going on unnecessary scouting visits to moving to the wrong place. And I can definitely speak to that moving is expensive and it stressful, and it causes a lot of people. So you wanna know it'll be worth it. And this is especially true of mid lifers because it can be very costly and time consuming to course. Correct. A moving mistake. And since this time of life is supposed to be about. I think fun and exploration and not getting stuck in a place. You don't like because that's just that's a bummer, and we don't want that to happen. Over part are the dreams and the reality that your clients tend to come to you with another words to somebody come and say, I want to live on the beach in Costa Rica, and they ended up getting condo in Denver. I mean, how how much course correction? Do you have to do in terms of what's realistic for most of your clients? Usually there's the ideal. And then there's the, you know, you just have to do a little nudges different places sort of adjust it. I don't think it's really ever really far off. It's it's more or less around where they wanna get tunes. Never exactly. But it's close enough. So what are the things that Emma Suming a lot of empty nesters would be your target audience? Because so many of us, you know, I'm a year away from that. And I look around our house and all the room where we have. And you know, we've had a couple of short phases where both girls were gone. And my husband are like what the hell we do not need this much room. 'cause you know, we basically need a kitchen a bedroom and pull someplace for TV and anyway. I'm just wondering what people should keep in mind about making changes in this phase of life and empty nesters in particular, one of the kinds of things that you recommend. They look for both because moving is such an expensive decision. That is hard to course. Correct. Midlife especially need to reflect and plan. I I mean everybody does this is something I recommend for everybody. But especially mid lifers. We really need to look before we leap because we have a lot less time to recoup any money. We lose to moving mistake. So it means it's just more important than ever to choose the right place out of the gate. And also, you know, it's sort of a time like we're already asking kind of existential questions anyway in mid lights, but it's really important to do that when you're thinking about moving. I mean, you definitely want to make a point to explore questions. Like, you know, who do I wanna be and what do I want my life to be about? And and what will give me a sense of fulfillment and purpose because the answers that you get are gonna give you clues to where you're going to be happiest living. Do you? Ever feel like a marriage counselor in that both people in every couple have the same answer to that. It's always a matter of finding the common ground trying to find that compromise area. For instance, my dream is to buy a tiny house on wheels and have it parked five months of the year in one dollars driveway and five months of the year and the other daughters driveway, and then just take a month traveling back and forth, and they have already right. Keep in mind. Israel's don't have a driveway that they're still like they're still in school. But they've both said to me you are not living in my driveway. And an I'm like, well fine. A live on the city street in front of it. That's public property. But my husband is also said, oh, I'm not coming along. And I'm like, I wasn't sure you're invited. I have made that decision yet. So we still have some work to do on our plan. But a really like the idea of very compact living. I once lived in a row house in DC that took me fifteen minutes to clean from top to bottom because it was so small and compact it's the dream. I would love to go back to that. I just feel like I spend way too much of my time. Time vacuuming and picking up off a horizontal surfaces. I had fewer surfaces. My life would be better. Definitely. And that's a big one. Just the downsizing decluttering. You know, simplifying. Yeah. So what are the kinds of common mistakes that people make like thinking that they could be happy in a tiny home? Do you see other other mistakes than that? I mean, here's some of the sort of the main ones that I can touch on in the first one would be like making a sumptious and worse than and making them would be the act on them. Because like to say, for example, oh, you know, small towns, they're all affordable and they're safe. They have low crime in their quiet and the people are friendly. And you know, of course, that's silly. That's not always true. It's like any place. You know, it's not like all places are a certain way. It's never true. So when you let your assumptions guide your decisions about where to move. It's it's I like to say, it's like building a skyscraper on quicksand. Not good. It's very shaky. And so instead what you wanna do is you want to focus in. In us facts and firsthand observations and experiences to ground your search in decision making. So do you recommend people go to these places in spend some significant time or how do you do that? Absolutely. That's kind of one of the ones to is. Like, you have to go check the place out you have to and really have a plan for when you go. There is like I'm going to talk to these people. I'm going to go to these places. I'm going to explore these neighborhoods in your really give yourself. It's it's not like, it's not of occasion. This is actually you're going in. You're like, you're evaluating. You are investigating and making sure that this thing lines up with everything you've gathered ahead of time, which is all the sort of online research that we gather you need to go and make sure it measures up, and that more importantly, you know, the vibe is such an important part of it. You don't get five off anything until you go there. I mean, it's a sensory thing. You have to you have to be there to know. And so yeah, you definitely. Ounce of prevention kind of curious thing any other common mistakes that people tend to make in trying to figure out where they're going to go next. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just the the fact that we are so programmed to to leap online a lot of times, we just don't bother taking the time for introspection before we leap into action. So what I say is like try to resist the urge to immediately jump online. I mean, it's hard. I know because it is something we're sort of you know, we do because finding the right place to live. It means finding place that's compatible with your personal needs and goals, and preferences and priorities is kinda like finding the right partner. You're the only person who knows exactly the qualities. You're looking for. And it's only by identifying and focusing on those qualities on that you're gonna find the places right for you. And getting caught up in all the lists in the rankings in the liveability scores in all the blathering online. All that's just gonna pull you off. Course, can you give an example? A case study, you could share about you know, someone who youths who you've seen through this process who thought they were going to go one place and ended up someplace else, or maybe you got the validation they needed that. That was the right place for them. And I'm curious in particular, how long it takes, you know, between deciding I think I want to change and actually making the change. I have I have several ones where the changes the payoffs have been financial and lifestyle and health like one client. She downsized into cluttered. And she now lives in a smaller place. She has more money in time to spend traveling and with loved ones, friends and pursuing her hobbies and interests. She doesn't have to work so hard another soldier house in the suburbs. And moved into a central city neighborhood. So she could be like with the in the action. You know, she wanted to get out of the suburbs and gets the where the restaurants in the entertainment and the farmers markets and didn't want to go in idle and traffic anymore. She can walk and bike everywhere and use public transportation. And it's just like. A whole different lifestyle from living in the suburbs. And then there's the weather thing being stuck someplace cold and snowy, and and how that can affect your health and another client who moved someplace warmer and drier and her allergies and joint stiffness got better. I was recently doing some research about how many people move away from their hometowns, and it was completely unrelated to this conversation. But I've I've lived away from my hometown for since I was about eighteen in California has a lot of a lot of people who have moved here from other places. So I do know a lot of people who have moved far away. So I was really struck by how many people stay close to where they grew up. It's a much lower percentage of people who have moved than I would have expected. And I'm wondering for people who are listening who still live where close to where they grew up. They don't really wanna leave. They don't really have any great yen to move on. Are there things that you have seen in your consulting? They can apply to their existing circumstance. In other words. How do they find they're happy place without going anywhere while I think it's again, it's a matter of doing that introspection. What is it? I want. What do I need was going to make me happy? What what are things that? I haven't been doing. What would I like to try? You know, if where you are has those things, you know them. Hey, you know, I if it doesn't then you want to go somewhere else and get those things that's one thing. But if those things that you wanna try that you haven't tried yet or you can do that where you are if you're in the right place. I need to apply the moving thinking more often because in the early days of my marriage. We moved every five years three to five years would be the longest we were in a, you know, an apartment or our first house, and it was great because every three to five years you through everything out that you didn't need. Well, we've been in this house for sixteen years. And I remember when we bought it. My dad looked we have we have multiple storage areas. And one of them is just so we've the lay out of our houses. A weird. And we have this one weird giant storage area? And my dad came to see it for the first time. And he said, you know, you're gonna fill that up. And I said, of course, we're not going to fill it up. We've got everything we own in the house already. There's nothing in here. There will never will be anything in there yet can't walk into that storage area. Now in my house. It is so full of crap. And I think I should pretend I moving and just get rid of all the stuff that I would not pay. That was always our our litmus test. Would you pay somebody to move this from one house to the other? And it was made it really easy to throw stuff out. And I feel like even the we don't have any immediate plans to go anywhere. I need to pretend on moving. I think I think we would be able to get rid of so much more. Absolutely the hard work. Now. Exactly. So you have on your website harvest, moon, coaching dot com. You've got an online quiz for people to start figuring out where they might wanna go. Is that right? Yes. And that's sort of to just sort of do the double check. It's like people are like, oh, I just ready together with city, and I just wanna. Go live out in the country. And you know, and it's like, okay. Well, let's just make sure that this is in reality going to be something you'll you'll be glad you did. And that, you know, this isn't just something that's like a pied idea in your head. That doesn't really have any basis in reality. I have a friend. I'm just thinking about my friend Larry who decided his he's a single dad is daughter left for college. And he decided he was going to go give Nicaragua try. So he moves down in Nicaragua. And he did what you're recommending. It was like a very extended exploratory visit like a six month. Visit and he ended up loving it. And he really wanted to. He was thinking he was going to sell his house here in Oakland and move down there, and he came back for a visit to see his daughter and while he was gone Nicaragua. Head some kind of you know, there was unrest. I don't think. It was. I don't think it rose to the level of revolution. But it wasn't quite below that. And he can't go back. Now, all he's got a lot of belong. It's done. There's gotta lotta musical instruments. But he can't go back there. And he's like thank God, I didn't buy because I really have been screwed Arab check for revolutionary foment before you go to a different country. That's my advice. That is very good advice, actually, take a pulse of the local people. How much do they like their their ruling class yoga? So Margaret, you came into this line of work because you had your own kind of disastrous moving story, right? You wanna give us the Reader's Digest version of that? Yeah. So what happened was empty nest happen daughter went to college and my ex husband now took a job up in the middle of nowhere in west Texas at the time, I was like I don't want to necessarily stay here. I was living in Austin. And and it was getting super-duper expensive and everybody else doesn't want you to move there. If you're listening to this episode and thinking where you're going next everyone in Austin says not here, I have a lot of friends in Austin who repeat this to me a lot. Yes. So I was just kind of looking around going. You know, I just this isn't the place. I moved to. It's really change. It's really expensive. I just it's not the same. I'm ready for something different. And it sorta didn't occur to me. It wasn't to me. It was just like about making a change didn't even really I guess I didn't even really think about really the ramifications of what I was doing. But anyway, just proceeded to, you know, fix the house up sell it, unload, everything and go off to this horrible town in the middle of west Texas is teeny tiny town. And that just was a disaster. Didn't last on the he my ex husband just got really caught up in his work. And it was just not good in. So I took off and moved into the nearest city, which was Lubbock which wasn't a whole lot better. And I met my current husband there, and we were living there and going we don't like Lubbock. We don't like Texas. We're ready for a change. We want to get out. So jumped online, I did everything that I am, you know, sharing with you, the I've run I could write the book on mistakes made in any way, we got this idea. Ooh. You know, we went on our honeymoon. We got married in Iowa. How about I? Oh, and we just kind of jam that, you know, square thing in the circular hole, you know, we just tried to make it fit and it didn't work. We moved it. We ended up in this small town. It wasn't even like, I don't know is really about affordable. I we get enough where it will house, and then we moved to this place. And then it was like, oh my gosh. What have we done? Oh, no. But, you know, the good story of that is like I thought, you know, this is crazy all the work. I did all the research, and and I still screwed up big time. So okay. What's the deal here? I know I'm not the only person who's done this. I know that this is. I mean, it's a mess out there. How was I supposed to figure it out? And so I thought well, hey, I mean something needs to be created. So that people can have some way of some sort of road map to figure out where they'd be happy as living in. So I took all of my existing skills. You know, the research is planning consulting coaching. Ching. You spend twenty five years as a grant writer, right S. I did I did kind of like with the move. I was like, I'm just so tired of grant writing. You know, just I'm tired of where I'm living. I'm tired of what I'm doing. It was just like a whole pile thing. You were ready for a change big change. Yeah. How does the grant writing skill set play into your current work? You know, I love that question. And it's so funny because I'm like this is so weird. You know, who would think there would be any connection whatsoever. But with grant writing you're basically finding and matching funding sources with nonprofits. And so you are looking for common priorities. Common goals. That's a really key part of it. And that's also part of finding the right place. And also another key part of it is relationships. So, you know, making sure that your simpatico, you know, the place in you or symbolic, oh, it's the whole process of finding and matching common elements, and it's. Miller process. Well, I'm glad you see the good in your disastrous moves because to me that was the that's such a compelling part of your story is okay. So I screwed up, but I'm gonna make sure you don't need. You know, that's kind of a nice thing at midlife, you can turn around and go. Well, there is my trail of mistakes. But they've led me to wear 'em now. So they can't be all bad. Exactly. That's exactly how I feel. I mean, I'm grateful for this series of of crazy misteps. Can I say screw ups this series of screw ups that brought you to where you are taste? That's I'm sorry. That sounds judgmental at all. So where do you where do you live? Now. I I still live in Iowa. Because like I said, it's very expensive to move, and you know, the whole cautionary tale of, you know, taking all those moves I made three moves in five year that's pricey and it was pricey and it, and it's so now it's kind of play catch up a little bit before we can actually get to our happy place. But that is on the agenda for sure so that was going to be my next question where do you go from here? No, no pun intended. I mean, do you are you taking your own medicine in terms of figuring out your priorities and absolute doing your research what give a top three list where he think you're heading. Well, I have like a top area that we're heading in that sort of Pacific northwest, not California. But like maybe worrying by really miss that being closer to the ocean. I've been landlocked almost thirty years. And it's just I'm ready to kind of get back to the coast area will one of my. Dream places to live has always been London. I always thought I would I assumed I would live there for a few years. I don't know how I got to this agent. I still haven't lived there. But when I used to go there a lot for work. My hotel was right near amuse M, E W S, my favorite thing about London is these muse, which are these little streets that are so Twee and like almost like cottages. I don't really understand how they're different from streets. I just know they are. And I used to walk down the muse near my hotel and stare in the windows like total creeper. I'm surprised neighbor. The cops called on me because I was always like look at how beautiful life would be inside the muse, and we're going to be over it. And we're gonna be over in London at Christmas time, and I found an Airbnb that's news. And the reason I picked it is because it's an amuse. And I'm like, I'm doing some research. I'm doing some research on muse while I'm there that is so cool. I love that. It reminds me of that. What's that movie with Cameron Diaz and Kate Winslet? Which lives at Christmas time and one goes to England and one comes to Los Angeles in any way, remember them. I don't know. I just get I get that same vibe from amuse like everybody would wear. Good sweaters. There would be like top-shelf whiskey all the time. Things would be festive. So that's my. That's my goal. All right. You that in the tiny house. I'll drive my tiny house down the muse. I have I have a new plan. I feel invigorated. I'll drive a tiny house on the wrong side of the road. So Margaret what one piece of advice? Do you have for people younger than you? Or do you wish you could go back and tell yourself, I don't know how many other people are like this. But it was pretty neurotic pretty stressed out worried. A lot about things that were completely out of my control over Chile. Everybody was come on the show is like that. So go on pay. Well, that was I mean, I'm definitely not as bad as I used to be. I mean, I used to just stay awake at night worrying about what might happen. The next day. When I went to the meeting or something, you know, just really stupid waste of time and energy stuff where it's like come on just try to chill out, Margaret, you know, don't don't worry so much about everything you really assume you worry less now, I worry less. I worry, but I don't worry much. What was the changing point for you? What made a difference? I think just realizing that how pointless it was to just spent expend all of that energy. When it really made no difference at all. And if anything it just got me more worked up than I. Needed to be. Oh, so it's just kinda like kinda talking myself down off the ledge. I guess, you know, it's like come on Margaret, this is really pretty silly. So age and wisdom, that's your trick. I like to think so love it. All right, younger people listening. Hold on. You'll get there. Yeah. All right. We'll Margaret Vandergert. Thank you so much for being on the program. Thanks for sharing your expertise about finding are happy place. And you can check out harvest moon coaching a leave a link on the show, notes and hope you I hope you have a wonderful holiday. Thanks again for coming on the program. Thank you so much. Tiny house in the muse sounds like the worst Laura Ingalls wilder title ever. And for the record that movie. I was trying to think of was the holiday from two thousand six with Cameron Diaz and Kate Winslet. I'd give it a solid them sideways. Accepted, the dreamy home interiors, those are pretty great. Speaking of dreamy, I wondered what you guys were thinking in terms of your dream homes so asked over on Facebook, and it turns out we're headed to the beaches were headed to the mountains. And we're all just waiting for those money trees to come into full bloom. So here are a couple of my favorite answers that people left on the midlife mix tape Facebook page, my friend. Andrea says she's getting a weekend cottage on the Danish Rivera and appeared a tear in Copenhagen. So I guess we'll be going to Tivoli gardens with Andrea. I love this one for Murray. He's very specific late spring and summer in Pittsburgh and early spring winter in Gainesville, Florida. He says this is all based on my being a fan of the Pittsburgh Pirates. And Florida Gators baseball teams, although I do love. The city of Pittsburgh. And if it wasn't for the winter there I'd be there year round. And then he adds since I don't have any money. It will most likely be in the south wherever I can afford most likely that means Alabama or Mississippi. There's probably really nice parts there and good baseball teams. I don't know Cindy says she and her husband talked about having a loft on the bay. That's the bay area and a beach house in Mexico, and maybe a big annual rental mansion for the holidays. So that we can have the kids and grandkids all in one place. She says, basically, I'm working under the premise that. We're going to be super rich when we're empty nesters. Aren't we all aren't we all laurel has a fantasy of moving to Quebec City and soaking up, the gorgeous history and culture of that area and practicing her rusty French from college, and I told Laura I actually lived in Quebec City, I studied French there for well. Boy, do I have stories it was a little odd. Anyway, it's actually I have a little bit about it in my book that's coming out next year. My friends Matthew and Matthew say they're going to Cal a bell Montana. And then one of the Matthews sent me a. Of Kelly spell and I'm going with them marines. Got her eye on a vacation home in Palm Springs. Amanda wants to go to Italy Steven wants to go to the south of France. I hope you guys I'll go these places because then if somebody to visit Kristen said cygnet Tasmania, which was intriguing. No, I need to look that up a couple of other world travelers. Leeann says they're going to rent out their house in Berkeley for a month or two at a time to fund global travels to southeast Asia and beyond my friend. Laura says she's going to start a little smaller scale she and her husband thinks they should do a road trip with a small RV across the US as a research trip. So I think Margaret would endorse that, and you know, what a couple people may already be in their happy places. Kathy has already gone through three downsizings. And she believes that her current location of Santa Clarita may be it and Susan who just moved to the Delaware shore. She says, hopefully, this is my last move beautiful coast lower cost of living friends and family nearby. So that all sounds great one last common thread bookstores sorry. Bookstores you guys want open bookstores? I hope you do because if you do I pledged to come visit I did end up making Spotify playlist for this episode BT dubs. So if you find me on Spotify at Davis co look for the playlist called house talk, and I'll put a link to it also from the show notes page what other songs need to be added there. There's so many house and home songs, I'm sure I didn't get all of them. So let me know. And if you haven't checked out the midlife mix tape blog lately, I have a couple of new posts over there, including my recommendations for music books for holiday gift giving and my thoughts of living in a dystopia, and why a novel without the benefit of leather pants or a cool nickname so go check that out at midlife mix tape dot com. All right. You guys. There's only one more episode of this podcast to go for twenty eighteen and I could not be more excited. You know, one of the people who commented on the dream home question. Karen said Mike question about totally relocating is how do you make good friends all over again? I think next week's episode may answer that question for you. I'm gonna keep their names secret for now, it's two people. But I promise you will love this show. It will answer questions you've been harboring. And it will be a perfect way to end another year of the midlife McStay podcast. And since we are approaching the end of the year. I'll make a plea for something on my own Christmas list, more podcast reviews. Lease more shares helped getting the word out about midlife mix tape. I'm going to be all the way real here. As the kids say, I would do this show of nobody was listening. But I get a little when I read about people who started a podcast eleven minutes ago, and they're already on itunes new and noteworthy, and they have forty two million listeners in a deal with panda. I'm really homegrown here. And I mean, call it artisanal of that makes it more appealing. But I think what my guests have to say is so important not just to mid lifers. But to younger people too who doesn't need to hear the message chill-out, Margaret. So if you agree I'd really appreciate you telling your friends, and of course, I love to hear from you guys to at DJ at midlife mix tape dot com and at midlife mix tape on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. Are you guys preciado? It have a great week. Don, stumbling me down. 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Yup Fine Barry ups becoming becoming slightly worryingly normal the situation and we feel worryingly normal Into Daniel you have been busy. Beavering away on On the Jiro haven't yet I. Didn't you find a a calling here? Yeah well I've been. I've been channeling Mina Vincenzo. And we've already mentioned too about the fact that we saw doing our own. Jiro only all jared Italia in. May It's going to be a sort of a festival of Italian song. All things related and we have a route. We're going on a virtual journey. Whose E PODCASTING IF. That's such if such a thing. Richard You shushing me. Am I giving away too much here? Not You know of three year old intruder and coming into my office so and so yeah I've been designing. The Rue is sort of redacted route Of course it was unveiled at the end of last year for the year grundy partaking Hungary and then you know the journey up the Italian peninsula. We'll be visiting virtually at least some of the towns and some of the locations that were on that route. But you know we're we're getting a bit of a twist or a few twists of our own I mean there's a well trodden path. Isn't there from journalism to race director. Christian prudhomme is Former TV journalist. But Let yourself Daniel itself. I mean awaiting the cool any a but it's something you could see yourself doing. Maybe think this was a painstaking job. Will as I say. Talk more about that and see whether or not later on but it did. Remind measure if you chopped when you were young. Lads in what? I in the highlands the back of the class in school with Easter design. I used to design football kids. Golf course is never that age wasn't really inter- and cycling yet but I sort of felt myself. I'm being sucked back to those housing days of you know when your imagination run wild and you'd cope with these these fictional events and kits and lineups. Well Oh yeah for weird for weird I know you did Lionel for all about some of your roots for for a brief spell. There's a strange romanticism in the British time-trial courses. You'll hate I. It was only a brief time in my in my teens. When I was I. Was You know when you get into cycling time? Trials are brilliant way of measuring your progress and your improvements and and the time trial courts. All have strange kind of codes swift people without a computer or you couldn't afford to say yeah. Hey He's like the the the name. Sinn correspondent toll to the road names or anything that I. It was a secret code and finding these. These routes are riding on roads. Thought might make a good time. Trial Course was I got fun in Chile. I created an entire fictional tour de France. In one thousand nine hundred eighty eight rushing out the stage reports and the full stage and general classification it really challenging adding time together with pen and paper is not easy. It took took a whole summer holiday From Memory Sean. Kelly beat Robert Miller There's a surprise Bernie Tessie clauses for preventive and but go off on a technicality. There's no doping in my fantasy out to the France. Richard. Here's clean as a whistle anyway. Well if we go coming up in today's podcast. We have well Francois Tommaso after he follows I way to L. by. He's he's back with another song. This week is fantastic. And it's God seemed to we're going to. We're going to be looking back a little bit unless years. I'm still gold race and the wind by Matthew Vander Pool and more to the point talking by Vander. Pol Am and I'm we'll hear a little bit of a a brand new specialist i. It's called Vander Pool and it's largely a visit. I made when you were allowed to visit people at two hundred under pulls hosts audrey is of course a father of monty vander pull and so today for Friends of podcast will hear an extra from that with your from the dot shirtless. Raymond Kharkov and who is has been covering cycling for many years. He'll talk about all things dot cycling. At the moment. We'll hear again from Larry War Bass in America and a little bit from Jack. Haig the Mitchelson Scott Writers. Well you're listening to the cycling podcast brought to you by Walker. Flexible LOANS BILL FOR SMALL businesses. Join fifty thousand customers taking on life twists and turns and scaling new heights with I walker if you run a business find out more at I walk code. Uk I W DOT CO DOT UK. Ian Child's and I'm one of the five hundred cells Kendall Cycle Club and and I'm now and still continue the as the lead coach. I think because it's such a wide-ranging club it's a social aspect dipping so many different types of writers together from ruled by Tim bike all all different disciplines but just the the real social impacts. This has this amount of friends that have been made. It's just phenomenal a big. Thank you to our sponsor I walk. Who Support helps to ensure that we can carry on as normal and we heard there from Ian Child's of the candle cycle club a founder of the Kendall Cycle Club. The club is also supported by. I walk the company remains one hundred percent focused on their mission to provide customers with the finance. They need to bridge cashflow. Gaps and make investments Near the Valley of bricks. Welcome both to rooftops. I was waiting for the cops. Coming from Niche Mountains. I was studying in the valley of up to mind Bellingham normally. I was looking for the road to win. Penny a Mountain Mountain Valley of own spending rose. Comb MON is a cone. The head of the Richmond Mountain Mountains of mushrooms today filming was broken to the detriment tune virtual bouncer mountains cow. Us looking for the win but it in no follow the thousand look like in the Dutch mountains mountains Things were guys. This was the song by Denise Its Dutch ban Maybe he's well lots of. Us posed on a never heard of the knits. It was a great great rock pop band from Holland. In Ninety eight thousand nine hundred seventy nine hundred eighty nine hundred very very good ban not dissimilar to crowded house of squeeze in more Anglo Saxon. The were if if you have a chance to check them out while they're all over youtube and all over the place I think listed exists actually and the knits my favorite album of theirs Address with Van Hoff. And there's lots. Lots of great songs of their for that in Dutch mountains was absolutely suited to dance. Still go race and then well which is of course you know a riding around all the hills bumps whatever you want to. Golden Mos- Around run the Netherlands. The you are so. That was the knits. There was my songs for the Week. My son for the week on the second podcast and well looking forward to the next one. She's guys by the Knicks. We familiar with the of the Knicks. Either of no. No I did have a spell and actually ongoing a bit of an obsession with Dutch. You're familiar with Dutch. Starting music lanes lead which is why. It's basically the NAFF songs that you hear. If you ever go to a Dutch national team football match I went to the World Cup in two thousand six in noon big in Germany and hall Maclean Portugal Stage Setup Square in Nuremberg and these awful Sons the kind of songs we hear on outdoors Dutch corner outdoors. Artists like Andrei. Haase's Walter Gross and I had a bit of an obsession with this for a while and I still delight and amuse and discuss some of our Dutch colleagues by case new breaking out into into rendition of some of these songs hard for Francois to do those acoustically though isn't it. Which is why I was hoping he would do gold by Spandau ballet this week for the Amstel gold race but again probably tricky To do just with an Acoustic Guitar. No yeah not unlike. The authenticity of the Dutch flavor. Thought that doesn't sound very can a European toll. I might go and discover a bit more about the band and a new to me but I enjoyed that song. Thanks Francois Again. I wonder whether he'll do any cycling. Inspired band covers. I'm thinking the Delgado's compact Velo set to Britain in the nineteen want. Oh yeah opera. Yeah I mean you. Can you can mention any buying the toll to Francois. And he knows the band. He knows he knows his music does. Francois am the Delgado's of course almost almost called Bernardino they were going to be called. Bernardino and Alan Woodward the man behind the Delgado's big cycling fan so anyway am well that was Francois with a bit of a of a dodge flavor and it would have been named so gold race. This weekend is not a race that props and stands I in the calendar. Most years the Bane I was looking back at the list of results. I'm surprised myself. I'd never actually been to the took over so being to Valkenburg several times. The to France was and two thousand six finished over the talk Kessler Mattis Kessler. That's right t mobile aid. The town with absolutely rocking that day it was completely foot is like a kind of a sporting event meets collapsed. Umbrian detritus afterwards down in the town on a plastic bag was Really quite something being to ride around some of those roads a few times the world chocolate cross championships with a couple of years ago when they went over for that but never actually been to them. Struggle raise it kind of got lost. It was just sort of after the man show event through the eighties and nineties wasn't came after liaison Asian and while until if well to move to it. September slot often overlapped. Didn't it well to overlapped with took over ice but then it seems to have kind of settled into a new and slightly more prestigious place on the calendar since moving in two thousand dollars three swapping places Woodley Asia Asia means leisurely. Best on the age is kind of like the the final classic of the spring but as a result go race seems to be amplified a little bit as a result rather than being sort of the consolation prize. It's the it's a stepping stone on the way to liaise best on the age and it was sunny amplified last year with founder pools win in the way that he won that race which a lot people confirmed the talent I suppose I am. I mentioned earlier on being to see Audrey Vondra pull his father. He actually thought that his performance at a tour of flanders the previous week pre two weeks earlier had been had been more impressive from an athletic point of view am didn't win that race of course. But the the the performance announcing gold rates when Juliana Philippe and your fool sang were away. Unseemingly am by to decide the race between them and Vonda poll towing a group along behind them and almost singlehandedly bringing them back seemed then winning the sprint. While that was a finale theresa few people had seen before and it really it really did get people excited and talking by founded. Paula's this phenomenon. And let's hear a clip from the the special Here's me we hear some commentary from the day I have to say Rod Patch was at the top of his game day as well. The the commentary in the final few combs was obviously. I was standing at to match the performance. 'em So here. Here's a bit from from Rob Bet from Audrey Vander Pool. That's Matty's father. And we also hear from a Belgian journalist. Hans van der Vega who has followed vander pool very closely. We hear from him through this friend. Special K the Amsoil was very very special. Because they're almost everything he did wrong but at the end it doing dried. So what can you say you? Yeah it was stupid Martin. He s to get smarter because what he did. I'm so gold. Race was stupid of potential. He one Guy Macho Pool Pathetic Macho volna pool at game with such additions to go take cell phone. The attack is alive and Kickin afterwards only declined afterwards. Food Sang and point. It wasn't that bad. He was only a little bit looky at the bottom. And then okay. Then we were always. I was there as Reporting the team and I saw Matt Twenty five kilometres from the finish and it looked very very fresh but he was one minute behind so and then I yelled to him. The podium is still possible. Can you say and then you became them. You wanted one. That's the final turn. Its tail crosswind for the final K. Now at it's out of the fronts. They're about to be joined by a whole new group funded pool and company my dude yet. What an exceptional day here comes. Coffee Left tyneside hits the Front. And he's right back in the game. How did they let them do this? Four hundred majors thunder. Pull the line clock with him. Shaq Moon Ballgame Doi- this loan bex teen D'Amato Muslim but let's say from three occupying ourselves with at the moment still could be anybody's we've had branchless finish already today. We're going to have another now inside a couple of hundred meters vertex on the inside. Lebanon GonNa do anything busy. This place runs nebulous home win. It's the wrong stop off but what it means is a lot of them do. We're focusing on on what he did in the emphasis but but I wrote the last couple of days. Some articles from sport direct were in the race and the all said forget the amsoil like he did in the in the tool frontage was quite different and and maybe not so special because he didn't win but that was really writing with a bike. I guess the question bill race was already lost the distance and he was quite far back. Because you had a heavy crash forces we by then attacked and then you know I guess again when I said you're a bad ass Raider. I guess the kinder we are more polite. We have sigma. You're very shrewd uncanny calculating and tactically very strong and at what point in his career that you have to stop yourself giving him a volcano afterwards forgetting the tiny tics wrong. Even if he's still one we already did but but you know because it was saying not debt debt smart to do it city. Abbot was hard to tell him. He's done it wrong when he's okay but you know what we're also was a little bit. Look Yeah it's it's at thank okay. Maybe not smart but I hoped that some writers go with me had been declined. Afterwards is was unofficially pool deck so the team of of LEFAVOR and astounded deavere. Quite nervous and the at the do the last forty kilometers with two. Maybe that was the the the right plan afterwards. We never know but but you know he. I think when that's for sure when you win are writing. Independent is quite different. Then when you are looking at the television you know you see you. See the riders. Good you're not good or so F- for me. 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Now I'm so gold race. He Won San Sebastian. He did a couple of seasons third of Franz and he was a very canny very shrewd rider. Very tactically astute and. That's not something you could say of his matty in the sense that he out of three or funds on until gold rate. He did things that you're not supposed to do. You're not supposed to be able to do am. I was curious to ask Audrey by you. Know what what does he in there? Some debriefs what does he say when he gets tactics wrong but still wins. You can't really tell I'm all for that and so it was interesting. Barbara's interesting the contrast between them as writers and how much of Adriana pull there is in Matthew and how much of Raymond Poulidor grandfather there is in Matthew Vanterpool. And what did he make rebound poets? You went to visit him gathering still in the same house. He's been in many years ca in Capella Mariah near the border actually in Belgium but very close to the border with the Netherlands. I find a lot warmer than I expected because I did remember him as a writer and had this impression of him as as quite a doer. Sorry character and very serious and nor writer that I particularly warmed to when he was competing and body find quite quite warm quite open and You know I don't know Matthew Vander pull very well. Tall am having interviewed him on. It was interesting. Speaking to Hans. Van De Vega the the Belgian journalists. Who has fought him really closely. M. bought prefers to observe him than to speak to him. There's almost more to say about him than to extract from him in conversation and he's sort of phenomenon isn't a Matt Vander pulled but yeah Andrea find very very open an interesting and and Um fascinating on the subject of his son phenomenon. I think Cam you talk about. He's he's modus operandi underpass modus operandi and more than the results themselves that the style in which We went up to go last year and finished fourth in Florida's but yeah everything really in his cost and in his background in the way he's got to this point suggests to me. There's been a very deliberate choice by Adriana Poland and a real sort of Roadmap that he he came up with when Vanda poll really started started taking cycling seriously to make sure that he broke through or didn't get stuck in these dogmas. These kind of ossified patents in professional cycling. That we see in in road cycling. You know the the idea that every team has a leader and the you know you went for the leader entail the last whatever whether it's lost twenty kilometers loss climb over the last sprint. Because I a start under Pol. Didn't join the ROB a bank setup. When he was a teenager he could have joined the rubber. Mike and Mike sets up. It depends on who you are either held up as this brilliant example of how you develop young riders or by lot of Dutch journalists and Dutch commentators pipping Volvo and Dutch cycling as sort of cautioned retail because I love the writers who went through that system. They got accustomed to these fantastic. You know level of support and attention and they live like pros really from their late teens and a lot of commentators have said that they then suffered as a consequence of that. Because I'm you know they they were able to improvise as well or they spoil safer than someone anyway. Under POL decided early on that he didn't want his son to be part of that and because he wanted it to be more like a game for him. He wanted him to be trying to win every race. Not Writing for leader. And and then you look at this of off road disciplines where again. There's much more of an element of play mountain. Biking came mountain biking very late. I'm only I think. Two Thousand Sixteen erode mounted rates for the first time but cyclocross as well and again the the emphasis. There is very much on their individual disciplines. and you know it's about it's about funny way to win on your own. So so everything. He's done Has Created this sort of you can kula phenomenon or a freak or whatever Who who does Roy aid in a different way from from professionals on the challenge for him they also including his manager. Kristoff wrote hoof to WHO with his brother? Philip Roth who looked after Vander Poulsen's he was fifteen with Andre quite close involved. I was I was reminded a little bit of a Andy. Mario Judy Murray in the tennis player in the sense that Audrey is clearly very involved in his son's career but no he's not sorry directly managing him. He's he's he's a he's a distance he's a slight remove so he's involved these investment. He's not managing the minute details. That's very much dentist Philippe. At least the business side and Kristoff looks out for the sporting site so he seems quite a good balance in there as far as I could tell 'em but yeah I mean at one of his big challenges they all say is boredom on and he gets very bored and in the early stages of road races and am one of his. He's constantly looking for guys to talk to in the Paneth on and the big stained Vandenberg is one of his favourite Goto. Guys they too are writer. I'll affiliate talk. But he's very close to while they talk right. Will they talk a lot about cars but the promise? Vanderberg keeps getting cold up to work quite early in races so he missed a misses his Powell struggles with the boredom of of that. And I think you know the the minded by racist cyclocross race. The race is on from the gun and there isn't not that way thing that need for patients that you need to do. You do need two hundred fifty kilometer road race I think mathew render polls career is kind of mirroring away onto pos career because Van Depot. Sena didn't get pigeonholed as one particular thing at a very varied career Richard. You described it as kind of ticking off race victories and there's there looks to be an element of that when you look back how he broke through. He was in the Netherlands team at the Olympic Games in one thousand. Nine hundred Rosen was the first rider who wasn't from behind the Iron Curtain in that race. He finished seventh. Everyone ahead him with either from the Soviet Union Poland or East Germany and the following year. Turn Perot and made a kind of instant impact finishing second overall at Pyrenees but that was kind of overshadowed a bit by Stephen Roach to was also a first year pro and won the race van. Depaul them went on and finished. Second inflexible alone and over the next Well he he had a very long career but certainly over the next decade. He won one edition of a lot of the classics one. To Florida's one liaised age one empty code classics Classic Descent Sebastian Power Brussels Perry tool The championship furic. He dabbled at the Tour de France is a bit of a bunch sprinter. Never kind of the super fastest but a tough person to be on his day one a couple of stages. I think one one right one criterium in Glasgow in Nineteen ninety-two per race in the episodes star wonderful. I'm looking forward to that. I think Van Depot won the last split stage in the Tour de France. It wasn't on the opening weekend with the team time trial in the afternoon. They had 35-kilometer thirty kilometer. I think it was staged from When it finished in power so it was just a just a race from from the gun and then they did another two hundred kilometers stage in the afternoon but under porn short morning stages of course was a fixture on the songs across circa every wind. Chill and flaming later on Lionel He. He he came to cyclocross late in his career. He he wasn't. I was surprised to learn that it wasn't something he'd grown up with. Yeah from from about the early nineties wasn't it and I'm but he of course he had a very long career. He was still racing. Forty one and While the the story for over his socks cross career was just how every year the Arrow there about in in the well. Copy was multiple Champion in the Netherlands. It took him until one thousand nine hundred eighty six when he was really getting welcome solidly veteran status by then That was the first time and only time that you won the world title in Soccer Cross. Wasn't it so kind of when you look Matthew Vander Post talent and is incredible spring last year and then turn? I'm tally off with his intention to Rice. The mounting box Olympic Games on the one hand is kind of an it is rather incongruous thing to still be aiming for but when you look at what his father did makes a little bit more sense maybe understand the you know with with the change to things this year and the Olympic Games moving back a year and he you know if we do get road racing he will be all guns blazing for to try and get in the biggest racist obviously and the team had a a wildcard pirate bay this year. But they're really they're really trying knife or a M. A. Right at the Tour de France if happens and who knows what What that would look like or high that would be an acquired. Some teams are already in danger of business. You don't know. The landscapes can elite quite but apparently would become his main goal for twenty twenty was beat to get rid of the Tour de France. I think you know. We talked last year about one of the dangers for him Was the the weight of the hype and the expectation. And and you know I. It seemed to have a different pitch than it usually does for young writers who is successful quickly. I mean you know we start with pizza. Saigon Pizza Sagging was another writer who well similar under Pol in some ways seemed not just to be superior but Different he seemed to have a different attitude to cycling a different way of racing. And we see that. I think even more with with van opponent. I think that's one of the most exciting things you ever seen sport and it's so read the someone comes along who not only look superior to what there is at that moment but also looks as though they sort of shifting paradigms was trying to think of examples of in other sports and I was sort of thinking of the The nine hundred ninety six cricket. World Cup when the Sri Lankans I think is too rare in callaway Tana. The pinch the pinch hitters. No-one slogged away. They start innings before and it seems that it was it was destined to change sport and it did change the sport and then even knew same boat rich. Someone who you've written a book about it wasn't just the fact that you know the Times he was producing but the fact that he looked so different to anything people had seen before. And I think that was the case. And that's one of the reasons why people got so excited about fund poll but tactically. He was doing different things. And you know the level of aggression and spontaneity on the bike created this. Hope that this expectation that he was going to be not just a a a sort of era defining ride a seminole ride writer. Who would maybe change the way we looked at the sport and I think that's probably an impossible burden to bear. I think last year when he went. I'm so gold. I was sort of saying that if he went on to have the same career as the best classics writer this generation which is Phillips Yoga. Then I felt the people would almost be disappointed because they almost expect more from him than that. Which seems a ridiculous thing to say but again. It's it's tough thing to live with a point you've made Sagong. Though Daniel is is his impact has his legacies not going to just be his results. It's also the the performances on the show and I think we can probably say the same of Matthew Vander Pol. Perhaps I mean you know to some of us. It doesn't make a lot of sense that he spreads himself so thinly. Especially Targeting Mountain biking against writers who for whom you know. Olympic Games will be there single focus for the year on the single peak whereas he's aiming for several different peaks. And you know again if those of us who don't follow mountain biking that closely watch him go Olympic Games and not win. A gold medal will well. That was a waste of time. But there's more to it than non think again one of the points a lot of people around him make as his appeal to fans onto sponsors in particular bike sponsor. Canyon is that is just in in the in the attempt almost that send the is the journey rather than the destination that people are interested. You know and for him personally obviously keeps him interested in stimulated but for you know the fan base he can reach is much bigger much broader as a result if he's targeting so many different things well yeah you you mention him. Keeping stimulate keeping interested as the the thing that characterized boasts his tour Florida's way finished fourth and the two coverage was that he was. He was in difficult. He wasn't a in a position of disadvantage at Florida's a bunny hop curb clauses. Roy Get back into position punctured. Then basically rack cranny traced fussing so I have a classic example of that phenomenon. We discuss a couple of weeks ago. Karma who referring to leap stopping for a week before the summer. Yeah and we've seen it many many times that boost of booster kind of drilling something just to mentally make somebody realize that this is now do or die. This is this is I. Make the effort here on a race or rather than sitting in. I think you know the the world championships was a kind of a a a cold slap in the face perhaps Savannah Paul because he wrote a much more conventional race and it blew up for him when it really mattered. A RUN OUT OF GAS. You probably because of the cold and the wet. But he didn't he didn't sort of race in quite the same flamboyant so why it wasn't that sort of day there wasn't the opportunity to do so but the thing that really sticks in the mind and I suppose when I saw analyze what I said about the obstacle race last year it was almost like trick shot. Cycling wasn't it and I couldn't really place it. In a context. It was clearly an amazing comeback. An amazing feat pretty much out of the race and then suddenly he was at the front and winning but it fell almost to the freakish in that sense. It didn't feel like Phil conventional performance that you could assassin a conventional way impacts out suddenly from my point of view. That's perhaps what kind of threw off a little bit but I with a little bit of distance and looking back on on his whole campaign which was You know an incredible Spring first and fourth places spread over about three weeks it was uh robots appeal as well as another race where he was didn't nominal crashed in that as well didn't in came back to win. Is that right? I was there and I don't remember him crashing. You could be right but just the the the mixture of writers he was with in the finale still managing to win from Gaza. Michael Matthews. Tim Allen's It was that was a another phenomenal. May Be Napalm. Another difference with the world championships was that was a rare occasion for him so far not to belittle the work that his team mates have done in racist thus far and do for even teammates but that was a rare occasion where he had big name riders working for him and he had the whole sort of apparatus that's been created for him to do well that world championships and and you know we talk a lot. We've often talked about the physical physiological legacy of cyclocross racing mountain bike racing. And how and that can be very very beneficial for guys who who turned to the road particularly early in their career and we've sort of noticed and talked about before how often they've plateaued actually after a couple of years but you know I think from a tactical point of view as well the legacy of of coming from those worlds and again not being served in in team tactics essentially just to just to correct myself. The crash the thinking of was Actually just before. He's incredible rounded results. In in the spring race he crashed out of Nokia cursor. Didn't and Basically came back from that to win. The grown predetermined a few days later and Then then even offer running commenced now. He didn't didn't crash in Bourbon. Shapiro show we. Shall we get a slightly Whiter Dutch perspective? I spoke to Raymond Kharkov the other day Dot Ch journalists in covering cycling for many years. I won't speak to him about gold race. About what might happen to it this year given its postponement and some of the other. You know movies Ma. Salacious famine on their star. Man's Tom the Mulan as well. So here is Raymond are the. Are there contingency plans for gold race other talk of holding trying to hold it later in the year? Yeah talked Ganassi's highly of it and he tries to organize it some In September maybe the end of our. They hope to find the place Ucla calendar. But I have to wait to. Uci is going to do. And I writing but to the hill situation Europe will be around that time V very positive that they still can organize an insult to base later in the year. And how important is that? I mean is an event that really needs to be held or could skip a year incumbent next year I think it's not directly That the event will quit. It's not held this year because Dough Northampton occultist Heineken. So that's really Baker multinational and they have a lot of money and Could publicity already for more than fifty years for them but that they tied to organize it. Because it's better for the history when you continue also with a two thousand ten edition on. Raymond is putting before but Yan Ross Prolific winner of 'em's Mr Amstel gold race again. She call him and but he has just sort of disappeared from dot cycling. What was the last you heard from Oregon? Ross yeah he quit cycling in two thousand and tweet the less time he was in the cycle vase. The start of the second way a second stage of the twitter. I disobeyed off. He was then invited by his frantic with steamer. Director offer. Durante El Group. But he doesn't want to have contact with people Encyclopedia and he doesn't want to get publicity. He still gave run interview with an altar journalists willful hasten only about a history of the Gold as for the fiftieth stimulation but a bit older journalists. Don't talk and he don't have contact with twitter. Many people because I know why we're on steam teammate of him they tried to raise attainment in. Salen at a living bits. Heap the fuse to let them in so he definitely has close to offer cycling. He's got a story to tell hasn't area would have if he wants his talent. Ya think I think absolutely because we go back to the eighties. He was one of the best classics riders and also after he was one of the best team latest we have and he was the man who brought in wobble Bankin in cycling until two thousand two. He was diminished. The robber bunk cycling plan and he was also the Plan Sorry Raymond. I'm being invaded here by my three year. Old Boy a he wants to play with his papa. Papa some work sorry same now no. I mean as he ever written a boot kernel thing. Rosser yet has written one book by fled funds. Looks ON US? Didn't want to work with it He don't WanNa say also much about how. He created. Rob a bank. I vote story for the Telegraph In two thousand and three about that because the direction of the bank invited me after the restroom troubles with us in the Dutch media and then they showed me some files history about the glass and they were building files could create him and I made a story about in two months later. We get to press. Release that while Senator Rob a bank go down way. And that's why I quit the rapper. Bunka cycling plan. He wasn't very. He wasn't rape pleased with. You was a young Russ now. He's still in Boston. Because I tried to speak with him and disavows any buzzer to to the false and then he refused to speak with me and he still angry at me. I don't know I don't know why. Sometimes the Messager is always the bad guy but that that moment people who apple bunks choked me files which they build up a bit Smith. Bet history so for us and that's for me a reason to make a story about it because if if I didn't fight about it than they would invite another cycling journalists would write that story. I mean you mentioned his his history in the eighties and so I guess for a lot of people. The the rivalry with Peter Pau was A great story wasn't a. m. he wrote for his team of this and then went off and south is on the rivalry between those teams was one of the Great. The great subplots of the eighties and the nineties. Certainly always a big fight. I was talking also with the Dutch Eh television program about his to be stems gold race and we can remember one thousand nine. One ran fun funds massive on the dumpster gold race. It's Your phone we s mass was riding at that moment for burglar the team from a young US and funk. Es was writing for on a sonic. It was a team of Peter Post. And maybe you can remember the sprint mass. Invent a little bit from the left of the middle of the road and after the finish of a big fights between the glass and post. That must've been too far from his line and that he should be disqualified and that was also one of the points that the war between the last in the post game fire attitude of France. Well of course I think Frans Maassen again and Martha Joan wasn't it? Yeah I can remember. I don't know sickly which year but then they refused to work together and otherwise wants to absolutely have won the stage but now a that they were just looking to each other and it's it. It was a blamed for cycling and I remembered that the next day there was a meeting. The Children S Qiliang Absent Peter Pause to Chris Attainment in the philosophy part and that after apologize and they have to say that that never can happen again because this was really better advertising for cycling and just finally Raymond I mean also on on the cycling you visa of course came into this year with huge ambitions around. You know they're they're their leaders and Tom. Dumoulin particular from Dutch point of view coming back from injury teams in reportedly in trouble and questions by their futures. How how is that team holding up? I'm guessing that a supermarket sponsor is probably a little bit more secure at the moment than some of the other sponsors. Yes we in the Netherlands. We didn't hear anything about Having problems with the team sponsoring That the dividers have to bring back their salary. Alpha supermarkets and we know that last week to supermarkets need to did it really rail and second sponsor is his Ma and the day looking in ultimately ultimately stays in affairs Yeah payments so eh. That's also something big continues in which is not directly hidden by Ya Kahuna cries so that those companies are not problem. And I think that is good for the team member. Fiszman at this moment and I talked with Theresa Plugin about this. But he still hadn't hasn't heard anything from sponsors about this subject Is He home in in Maastricht is he? Is he back to full fitness training as best as he can? Yeah don't Miss Living Tweak as away from from Maastricht and it's just encana just Belgium I think that twenty meters from his house. The function is the border is directly and at this moment it is forbidden for people who live in Belgium to visit the Netherlands. So for him. It's not an easy rate the convert number to the Netherlands. But he's still training air sometimes and his condition is good too. He had a really good winter. But then he had two problems in his stomach. With the with the parasite That's the reason why he couldn't do the Lancia Tuba later. The derain O.`Neil Answer Mo but then. He had a for ten days an antibiotic. Yes and after that said condition is really rail but he becomes a little bit frustrated that he still can do races because his last race is already adultery. Navy Labor Day from last year. So he's missing maybe more than a year of competition. But if you look to the Rob a bank prima cokely's Stephen. Kaik also didn't do one race in two thousand twenty. So what's been the difference if you can race in July if you didn't do for eight or nine months or one year so I think that it it. It's not a really big problem. I think you still call the team. Robert Buying Their Raymond diehard. The cycling podcast is supported by science. In Sport. 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Charities Fair share and heroes and different hospitals in the UK as well go through scientists sport dot com to see more information about this initiative combination. We got half an hour intonation. I haven't told my Matt even depot talent spotting anecdote told you so many toddlers. Don't worry that's not send the friend Special Lionel's you are. Excellent hugged a big credit for me spotting his talent twenty years ago I mean the Vondra pull family remained very very grateful. That's all I can say about the precautions was it causes here precociousness and either and we had from Raymond. Coco's there a man who covered the todd when he was sixteen. Wow I mean even more precocious than you four years. Oh yes what was he wearing short trousers? I'm I'm assuming he was quite warm at the Tour de France. Isn't it usually often people wear short trousers? Something Francois frowns upon people in shorts at the tour. The French generally know is You know try to shut shirts and ties well just on APPs to gold. Is it the longest standing continuous title sponsorship in Men's professional cycling? I think it must be founded in nineteen bucks. Talk about asking a question that you know. We will know the answer then. I already know the answer to because I've looked at art. I think it must raise folk slash hat news. Plaid is obviously long standing. I guess hasn't got the same name now. Obviously only had news blood took over. Well the HAT News newspaper took over the vote newspaper it. I'm just looking up other races. Go permanent what title sponsorship that actually defines the race and the only one the only other one I can think of was the Grand Prix West Front sponsored by the newspaper. That that's only something that started in the late eighties. I think the side classics Copying Hamburg was sponsored by an electricity company. First and then vattenfall another electricity company now euro is I think and the NFL tour now the pink tour but the gold race. I think must be the if anyone out there knows someone who now though come up with a another H. I can't sing. Think about as high profile. Racer is so strongly defined by its talked to sponsor and Raymond mentioned. They are all right awesome but John. Ross who's won five gold races and for many years. Run the ROB. A Bank team brought rob a bank into cycling but has disappeared from cycling. Raymond mentioned there. The nineteen ninety-one race. Where the kind of rivalry between Yon Ross and Peter Post came to a head the finish Franz massin and Maria fondriest's. We're sprinting. For that HE WANNA look up on. Youtube is incredible sprint. Because mass takes fundraisers one way across the road and then the other way across the road I mean it doesn't get penalized 'em that sets up a US. A very famous stage France to that year again those three teams and by that point they were buckler. That was before Rob Van. Came in on Panasonic M and run by the great rivals. Ross and post and and they refuse to let their writers work with each other and breakaways and on this occasion. They were away. The junk club. Colotti the fronts mark surge on Franz Massin and then they were ordered well. Massimo's ought to work with saggio. So they they start working with each other and Colotti to call for thirty clemency. Go won the stage and then was almost disqualified from winning the stage for his celebration on the finishing straight which would have been quite funny Frans Maassen does anybody know Frans Masson's full name? He still a sports director at you. Believe these days talk about which you know the answer and you know that we will be able to remember. Daniel knows about Henry Franciscus Franciscus Alberta's Antonius Yohannes massin Franz France for short. Wow the the obstacle race donohue just that period from seventy seven to ninety one. Twelve home wins for the Netherlands and only three foreign win. It really was a home fixture. I quite liked the fact that that ninety one race at my some one he was writing for the Buck Latinas. You mentioned low alcohol. Oh no alcohol beer. Winning the race obviously is a pay without calling. I think that both both were and certainly are now brewed by the same parent company on they can. I'm not getting into an area fully now here. By a non alcoholic beer sponsor winning the amstel gold race. And my one question for you on your was how do they get round it. When broil costing the race in France with the the rule about alcohol sponsors and sport the Gold Race. No they does the right question. I I suspect the law. The event is called governing alcohol's advertising only governs events to take place on French soil. I would suggest but Dutch beer is. That's it's a bit of a cultural well. No-man's-land isn't that Dutch PM. Fizzy Chemicals disrespect always. They don't produce better beer and the Dutch and but just John. Ross one of cycling's great hermits isn't a along with Charlie go. I've got a Charlie go story. I'm going to say for the Another one of Daniel bumps into chance encounters even those wondering well wondering in the in the art van we will. I will tell you the story during the era but Yeah Yon Russ Great Cycling Hermit as Raymond said despite the writer I actually interviewed him shortly. I didn't realize at the time. But this must have been a few months before He's removed himself from the public. But I we were doing feature and I'm still gold racer pro cycling magazine and I might get in touch with him and he sat me any possible. Unsolvable treasure hunt to try to speak to him and I am calling him every fourth day for a month and giving him the password and then guessing the name of his third cat and basically didn't want to speak to me but I did. I think I did my sixteen months. A few words from him but grunted bark down the phone About obstacle I similar EXPENSIVE PIZZA PASTA. His great his great rival when I phoned up to him and he just he just hung up on me but I I did write about this in my book at Top I am and he spoke to Hillary Vander sure and who runs the won t team and he at the time was John. Ross's assistant on the tour was so angry 'em after that twitter front. Cj mentioned whereas SARS zone massin were ordered not to work with each other and the they Reprimand and Vanderveer told me that. There was a meeting that night in the woods in the middle of the woods between the teams with house in the middle of France. There was no light. It was at one o'clock in the morning. It was Peter Policy on. Ross Walk Walter Pinkerton me and at one forty five it was finished and everything was okay and I said to that mean. He said it was a civil meeting. There was no anger and there was peace. After that I said was that permanent peace. He said for a few days than it was back to normal. I can't I can't imagine Mark Sajjan ever refusing to work for anyone. I mean if you tried to pick a fight with marks joins pretty bring me some cucumber sandwiches. And he'd he'd lace up your boxing gloves for you wouldn't he. Yeah so yeah I mean sorry to buying on a by these behind the scenes through films but the two thousand nine hundred and one is just I am sorry jules features and all of them and with Hermann freeze on his his sports director don he comes across again just a very sort of mild mannered easygoing guy am and those those those films can it just another Belgian. I think we've covered this before another Belgian with a great answer. Fine Message and like Patrick. Lefevere as you mentioned before. This seems to be a thing in Belgium that you just leave your name in such a way that suggests you are actually on the end of the line so you call patch lefevere. And he's not there and he just says put through every well. Hi Patrick I'm just calling and then you realize and mark surgeon it's the same you call him opening. Mark Sargeant. Oh Hi mark. I'm just calling the cycling second pot. Karston yeah very embarrassed. Leave your message after the just on Dutch cycling and I don't know whether you guys know anything about this. But the kind of the idea that the doctor would rather ensure the Dutch person one the kind of goes against the grain with with the Post. Ross an art that. You've got there Richard. But I do remember the story the eighty-seven to go one by Zotov milk. You of them out. I think forty by then he won the world title a couple of years before and I think I think he was full. Anyone tour in no sorry fourteen. Nine hundred eighty. I think I might be wrong. Sorry not sorry forty. Four hundred eighty seven think But at well anyway he was knocking on a bit. But Malcolm Elliott got in a break with three Dutchmen and his history of that day it was that the basically the three. Dutchmen might absolutely certain that I didn't get beaten by by Brit and well Malcolm tried to cover a couple of moves by Steven Rooks and turn bummbly but then when Zotov when they jumped on Elliott did finish third. But I'm I think the do they get criticized. If if a group of Dr Riders Work Each Other over and then foreign wins. I don't know maybe that's me just sort of having absorbed books and magazine features from the eighties when that was kind of the narrative that we were brought up on. I guess hey guys. They're here in lockdown with Larry Just stopped inside the road on today's six zero. The Sun's out. I'm trying to take advantage Not that warm. Probably about five degrees. But it's at least a pretty day so I'm exploring some new roads. I probably haven't read it on in twenty years. Well ration- fifteen south Yeah it's pretty cool just to Change it up a bit From steph usually do so I never never see these roads and I'm Just because Never home for that long. So I stick to my usual routes and the but for those jealous of me getting to outside wouldn't probably have been so jealous of me riding in the snow yesterday so got got snowed on On my zero degree I yesterday but I made it through. It was only a couple of hours. within effort so just trying to make do I can. I'm a actually riding alone. So the cycling PODCAST has been even company Almost finished with This past week's episode and I just found it interesting. You know listening to Richard and the guys talking about I guess you know trying to start a discussion on You know whether no one should be able to right outside of who should be outside. The situation should be and you know I definitely think everyone just has to listen to their local authorities because You know it's that's that's you. Follow the laws in the country. You're in so you know just because people are forbidden to chew gum in Singapore doesn't mean We can To our gum anywhere else in the world so You know it's just like with any other law in any other situation You follow your own country's laws and guidelines and. I think that's what we have to do. You know to the best of our ability so You know. Hopefully a government saw making the right decisions for wherever you are and I guess I guess that's how we have to go about it And Yeah in regards to me being from Texas. It is pretty funny. Because I'm about as far from Texas says Could possibly be. But I'll never forget the first time I heard that was at the after party. And maybe twenty sixteen. I think Daniel and I ended up at the same Same place after. I said it was probably one two in the morning. And he came up to talk to me about numerous things but one of them was made being from Texas Which is pretty pretty funny and a good laugh. Because I'm literally from as far north as you can get in the US so now not from Texas. But maybe I do hello overdrawn. My horse hugging guys have a good run and Pakistan tout learn more by Sir with his Regular dispatch from Technology Texas as he He reprimanded you there. Daniel Lisi Lisi jarred journalism. Maybe I think I think plotting Jiro rigged on your garage on Geography. When it doesn't directly interest you shocking. I think maybe I was. Maybe I was making him out with Lawson craddock out. Yeah he's a mix of that time I never. I never mixed time. Trial results. Well Yeah I mean we've Gone Christian names that begin with L. That's that's it really. I think they don't they don't really very similar to the thing. Lawson craddock and Larry War anyway thanks Lori for sending us in your latest dispatch and still waiting for photographs. Larry and you're listening to the PODCAST. So maybe I'll have more success Asking for photographs this way. Then by sending that message training setup that kind of thing is her Jonathan Ross graphs Larry and lockdown So you know. Send them in. Larry when you get a moment you needed to tidy up I Fair Enough Lionel. Hasn't bothered them anyway. I'll come really. I oughta hung on the hook. They marshawn copied hung over dot in the dark. And I've angled the camera. I can't even the flu podcast where we do at turn our attention to the news and Virus covered nineteen. And how it's affecting things we might get again. There has been news every week. And what's the latest this week Lionel? Well the latest and biggest news. I guess the French President Emmanuel Macron announced the weekend that we know public gatherings in France. Until at least Mitch ally so major major public major public gatherings saw. Yeah so we just wondering and waiting to see if that means the inevitable perspire off the Tour de France. Which of course he ju- TO STAR IN LATE. June hasn't been postponed as we speak. We just don't know yet. We're hearing Well Lesbian media reports of of rechecked calendars but until we know some fixed dates and until we know whether those states are feasible. It just feels a little bit A little bit previous sunny. Don't want to write things off. But nor do I want to get too giddy? The idea that we can. We'll be back to normal in what would be two two and a half months from now. I don't know how you read that Daniel. Well I I've never seen you giddy as a sort of social experiment. Yes no absolutely I mean we can. Only we can only reiterate what we said on that score. Speculation is more than ever redundant the you know. We've we've been hearing for several weeks. The teams a really insistent that they need a month's notice before any Franz they need racing to start A month before any kind of told the France So that mid-july cutoff point. You would you would think that some kind of communique announcement is in the pipeline from zero to confirm. The the race is going to be canceled whether they actually provide any new days. We don't know I think that the strange thing about the kind of the reaction in an insistence that the tour must be cancelled and pushed back. O or whatever. It's it's a little bit strange because it completely out of all of our hands whether we are fans or media commentators or whatever. This is going to be a decision made by the French government. And they're not gonNA make a decision unless that confidently event can be held safely and to and ensure that it can reach a conclusion almost worse than postponing or even canceling it for the year is starting an and not being able to complete it. I think that would be more damaging for the tour. So who is kind of a? It's a decision that we can have to wait for the French authorities to make and and then see whether that is a race run on a real kind of A minimal level with far fewer media. There I could see certainly see Sort of an attempt at an almost behind closed doors type event just to kind of pick up morale and get as part of the effort to get back on its feet later on this year but the speculation about whether or not things are going to go on when they might go on and how the calendar might look on as I've said repeatedly it's kind of it's it's more wary wearying actually for me personally than than the thought of just You know discounting everything until we get something that actually confirmed and then we know what we're we're looking ahead to. What my hearing you saying every week that you're not going to speculate a by the there's going to be wearing is incredibly wearying say next week. I'll say once I but it's Kinda feed Sir anxiety. I think the sense that that we don't know I'd rather I'd rather not know. Probably the promise woman worth we're all we're all reading so many conflicting stories from experts by the what's going to happen because nobody knows since everybody's everybody's guessing some people with with good information and some people know but I you know but I shall not country and they have to be understandable. Want Business Fall entirely closed iron with I. You know when you don't know what the city is going to be a couple of months. Nobody knows so were on A. We're on a journey where we know the destination until Emmanuel macron and the French government. A authorities say this is possible they know it has to remain however slim has to remain alive possibility doesn't otherwise what's the point of Isis unilaterally? Making its decision Before his had the full high level consultations with the people who actually are making the decisions across the whole of the country. It seems odd to me that that it would be folding in ISOS lap to to to take a decision prematurely but there were a shortstop press to include. Some news broke as we were finishing this week's episode and I say this completely in the knowledge that it contradicts my point regarding the speculation about the rewritten race calendar when racist will be able to be held but the French media today reported the tour. France has been pencilled into start on August the twenty ninth meanwhile Marubeni the boss of our Cs told the Italian website. To-to pitchy that. His Organization is working only on one possibility regarding the charity. Talia and that is to hold the race with fan so not behind closed doors so to speak. He also said that everyone is planning. This depend on what happens with the Tour de France saying if the tool was to be reduced in length that year would follow suit as it stands. The plan is the Jiro would be held in October with Melenchon ramo Straw to Bianca an ill by following on the Twentieth Twenty Eighth Thirty First of October bought. Of course all of this is subject to change any other any other news yet. Some other news dylan. Groan awaken is being delivering shopping for care workers in the elderly by bicycle. Of course his team Sponsor Jim. Bo Is a supermarket chain but warren bog. Eli is going to be doing the same thing or foreign bark. He'll roller skates roller skates. That's has preferred. I wonder how much faith Warren boggy. Let's be playing during lockdown bitcoin trusting tonight the UCLA has Salaries for some of its staff seeking to cut costs British cycling has furloughed staff or is planning to staff as well. So the impact. The economic impact is being felt across a sport from the top down from the sports governing body and of the British governing body. They're always there are some good news. A bit. Like GROWN WIGAN BOGGY. Doing their rounds on a bike lega us. I guess their own bike with some some kind of luggage but pledged to deliver a million bottles of hand sanitizer to the NHTSA. Each month free of charge. Guarant- Thomas is doing three charity. Royds of twelve hours each on his way to raise money for the NHS basically Mirroring an just work. Twelve hour shift specialized in the. Us are giving a central work as a free bike. There's been some racing as well Rohan. Dennis won the initial only race on swift's platform using the outdoor swift. Which is a simulation of outdo as an Ashley? Momon Paseo won the Trophy Bologna. I don't know why pronounce it in Italian. Could it was? It was almost. What's the language of swift? I don't know if I pronounced that correctly. Ins whiff dish it was on the San Luca. Climb though where the Gerard's prologue took place last year of virtual version of course and Lou Bates was second and Ella Harris with third. You may have heard L. Talking to Mitch docker in Michi- latest life in the Peleton episode. If you haven't gone check out L. Harris won a swift academy a couple of years ago and as a result a contract with the Canyon Schramm team so oh and the other thing that Jiro charity ride with some of the grace of the. Jiro cloudier cheap. Can't put she mario Cipollini Gianni Buni and Filippo pots auto undisputed legend of Italian trickling out. Place over the weekend as well. Yeah Charon. I had a good laugh about that Because we were quite concerned about what was going to be able to finish the thirty eight. Convert your kilometers but We we slightly downhill so we thought it probably GONNA K- and he did just On the any also Manufacturing and delivering hand sanitizers always been not in Germany and France and I got they've Brill's for it has been coordinating. Were I was in touch with him last week? So we're going to hear from him on the podcast soon. 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You mentioned Lionel the Few well governing bodies UCI M have been reducing staff pay following staff as well and that's been the case in a few teams as well. Thank you mentioned that last week. One of the teams Fayed Mitchelson Scott and staff and writers had pay cut by up to seventy percent there and I spoke last week to Jack. Haig their writer who started the season extremely well. I'm had big plans. Begun missions this year. And by the way I'd say it was quite interesting by the effect on morale of having a pickup. It's definitely gotten hot since we had that news because it's either difficult to stay back because I guess we don't really What the financial situation is I understand. Is Bad but Flu Haven't on standing out here so it's quite Eight is it has become harder since we're told this because before the cops have been putting clamps I've always been someone that has so at like a soccer is. My job are GONNA work as hot as possible in my job to do that. And when you sort of have an agreement to a certain salary any he kind of hold you accountable to that and I was on being currently professionals of trying to stay in a really good white range trying on the ball quite focused in sort of a the motivation voice period was like a professional motivation to do well at my job whereas now salaried cuts beings are drastic is kind of taken away or online motivation to to ride. The bike will stay. Fit is more of a a a personal mental sanity in general illness motivation. If that makes sense. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah that does make absolute sense while the commitment is there from the team and the sponsors then your commitment is is there to whereas you know. It's like a contract. Isn't there between you and your on your and your team. I don't try the wrong games. There's no like I'm now all of a sudden sitting on a starfighter watching nationally eleven hundred I e Jerry's I'm still I think even if I wasn't a professional cyclist I'd still want to be quite fit and active healthy person and in return to racing in a very fit white but just the modernization. The white that I thought about it has changed a little bit so I was Jon. Hagey I was quite interesting. He said by 'em softly changes the the motivation. I mean all the you know most most talk bite. Writers are very self motivated anyway and the drive comes from within by part of the deal is that you're you know you're you're paid by your team by responses to do the job as well the contract you have with them and if they don't for you know albeit perhaps perfectly justifiable understandable reasons of businesses going through a hard time at the moment if they can't fulfill their end of the bargain it does it does subtly alter the relationship. I would imagine another difficulty for the right is of course not knowing what they're training for 'em Jon Hagey as well if anybody follows on social media will they'll have seen the he certainly in the early days of the longtime was asking a lot questions on twitter 'em by using his trainer on Glenn Swift and so obviously not a regular. Ask Him about that too and he said you know the this. Maybe there are some writers and we saw it ruin. Danis when any all swift race? He's probably as a time. Trial is used to making steady hard sustained efforts in one position whereas climbers may be aren't and they struggle more with without kind of training. And and that you know that's going to perhaps you know. I think I think he's got into the the meet ups and the the social aspect to to write a new actually movement. Paseo de mentioned there has been a lot of that kind of thing as well. She's a climber to am so. Riders are having to make up on. It's not all plain sailing. You're doing imagine yes. I mean some people better than others for for some guys who are very focused on just the physical exercise of riding considered geek out with the numbers and and so on It might not be too too jarring but there are others. Thibaut Pinot is. We've mentioned him in the last few weeks. He's sort of typical kind of soul soul rider. Who always is very much into bill? Jack Hey guys actually being being out in the open and now out in nature and and they sort of symbiotic symbiotic relationship with the land in the mountains and it's a key source of inspiration and a key reason why these guys particular climate. I think I'm right. Bikes that they enjoy that dimension of the sport and just on on Pino there was quite a few days ago from on my He's team manager just about Training and not trainee next few months. He said that if you don't train for one day you're the only person who notices a if you don't train for a week you'll coach starts to notice if you don't train for two weeks then everyone will start to notice and I suppose that's the sort of dilemma. That got the right is facing at the moment. Yes swift another computer simulated versions of races and not really the place for the the whimsical planners are the the the people who tend to dwell at the back of the Peleton just waiting for to make their move. There's not a lot of opportunity for coasting it's just a numbers game and I suppose that was the one takeaway from the the the the what was it wasn't even. There was only one team taking in team in the US. Rice on Swift. It was a bit like what was it a bit like. I don't know what it was a bit. Like that is involved in no goalkeeper. Yeah kind of sports at school where it's just your own form playing. There's no no no no competitive element other than competing against your own. Maybe a glimpse into an apocalyptic future when the only psyching team the a team size has to be expanded to one hundred eighty to accommodate the one the one tame but I gather there was supposed to be a bit more to and fro on the outdo swift race among the house. Right as trying to make it a bit more interesting for spectators but when you go time drawing Rohan Dennis not just not everything I guess. I suppose that highlighted there isn't a lot of room for for the finesse of road racing or that the sandbagging or the rope tactics. It's just who's putting out the most walks According to their white that's basically it. Isn't it not not not not the place for it and the moment I can? I can see why it's popular but Would have been interesting to have seen a little bit of a storyline evolve over the course of of the event rather than just one person riding as hard as possible from start to finish so eddy. Merckx ask in its way. Yeah I've just on the subject of a indoor track and homemade trainers Daniel. We had an email from Charlotte. Steen am who Her eight year old grandson has indeed made Homemade trainer not with wine bottles But with training shoes and she sent us. A picture of this contraption is certainly means that he can law think he can right away in a not move. I'm I'm trying to figure photograph your own. T. I bet graham. Aubrey could knock up a mean a mean and Tabora trainer out of some other. Now used Ness Bradtha capsules and our armed group. Yeah Yeah No. I'm sure he could. I'm sure he could just before we wrap things up for this week. Couple of things to tell you new episodes cycling PODCAST FEMINA came. I end of last week last few with at least shabby the doctor on big Laker tissues. Going back to work in local hospital in Geneva helping patients with Calvin nineteen. We've also we also here in episode from Louis De la Hoya. The coach used to be on the rob a bank team for many years. And he now coaches on Amiga five Luton and merita. Vaasie took over her. Coaching last year had great results with her. Really interesting. That sir to to partial here the rest of the interview with him next month's episode and Lionel there was a new episode of explore that landed yesterday indeed yes south and Hannah troop with a regular guest appearance from Imbo well. The main thrust of this episode focuses on the three peaks across rice featuring contributions from three time winner. Craig and twenty one time veteran of the event Simon Scholars Brooke and Lachlan Morton of AF pro cycling. Who wrote it? For the first time last year and finished fourth will probably put slightly tidied up version of all three of those interviews. Because we don't use so much in in the episode but we'll put the full interviews with other three people on our website towards the end of this week and we'll tweet about like soda if anyone wants to hear any of those three people talking about the three peaks and they can do so and Well there's a lot of good material that didn't make the cut so that'd be worth listening I think and a reminder the few Want to listen to our new episode Vander Pol and For Friends of the PODCAST. Sign up at the site in PODCAST DOT com. And we're still sending out books. My Post Office is open. A big bag of books here. Some of them signed some of them purchased on our through our website. And so if you find a copy of the grand through diaries you can You can get one by becoming a friend or through the websites and slim volume this year. Who Know what we're GONNA do for a long. Although be there'll be a book. Do you worry the cover of the latest edition of Vogue? 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