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Affirmation for Love

The Daily Meditation Podcast

09:08 min | 10 months ago

Affirmation for Love

"This is episode one thousand seven hundred and seventy six. Welcome to the daily Meditation podcast. I'm Mary Medically and here. You are showing up for yourself doing one of the best things you could possibly do for yourself as you get ready to meditate in today's episode you are going to discover an affirmation meditation technique. You can do as you meditate today. I recommend you repeat this affirmation when you wake up in the morning to start your day and as you go to bed at night to end your day before you wake up in the morning the distractions and thoughts of the day haven't really started streaming through your mind distracting you and so this is an ideal time to repeat and affirmation and when you go to bed at night you're letting the cares and worries of the day settled down and so you're more open and receptive to the affirmation so before I guide you through the affirmation I wanNA share with you a little about what it means to live with higher consciousness and I thought I would share with you. What consciousness can mean. In regard to Yoga and meditation there are considered to be three states of consciousness in regard to yoga and meditation and that is the conscious mind. This is when we're operating and going through our day we wake up. We get ready for the day. We do our work. It is the part of You. That may operate on autopilot. You don't really think too much about what you're doing you just going through the motions. Now there's the sub conscious mind which is below the level of the conscious awareness state and this is located in the body in the lower brain and the spine and this has to do with your memories and your experiences those things that Utah really think about day to day. But they're they're something might trigger those memories and it brings it to your conscious mind. But for the most part they are dormant or hidden this sub-conscious state has a tremendous influence. On how you think an act in your conscious state and finally there is the third state or the super conscious. Mind this level of awareness that sees beyond material reality beyond what you might see right in front of you and it picks up on the consciousness behind that reality now. That might seem a little confusing to you but let me explain so the super consciousness is win. You perceive something bigger than yourself. A higher meaning or purpose in your life and this is usually a state we achieve. When we're very calm or maybe very inspired you may experience this if you are involved in a religion or any kind of spirituality where you since that there's a greater purpose to lie and you feel connected to that purpose so if you are noticing some stress or tension when you're acting from more of a super conscious state you can look beyond that attention and that stress at a higher meaning and this is the kind of state you can achieve with meditation and the more consistently you meditate the better you get at a higher meaning behind not only what you do but in regard to life itself so you're not so triggered by world events if they seem alarming. You're not so upset. If somebody personally insult you. You recognize what's going on but you can see beyond it and see a deeper meaning and this is a beautiful way to approach your life and it takes effort so meditation as you're getting ready to meditate today is and I deal way to really build those super conscious muscles so your affirmation for your meditation today is. I offer peace to others. I offer peace to others. When you allow yourself to open up to relax your mind and body and to open your heart you feel a deep sense of peace and this allows you a higher state of consciousness so settle your self down right now and begin to relax your mind and your body and shoe do so. Keep your eyes closed and gently. Elevate them upward. This keeps your thoughts uplifted and think about your purpose in life and think of someone that you may need to forgive and begin to feel compassion for this person began to recognize the pain. The person may be in and offer your piece to them. You may feel your body began to relax. You may find that this is difficult. And that's okay now in a powerful voice engaging your full consciousness repeat. I offer peace to others. I offer peace to others. Notice how you feel as you repeat this affirmation out loud and now silently to yourself. Send out piece to someone. You're wanting to forgive. I offer peace to others silently. Repeat I offer peace to others and allow yourself to meditate sitting in stillness sending peace to others. You are so were slowing down for.

Utah
Episode 428: Utahs Blossoming Floral Renaissance with Heather Griffiths of Wasatch Blooms and Ali Harrison and Lindy Bankhead of Florage Utah

Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing

1:19:48 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 428: Utahs Blossoming Floral Renaissance with Heather Griffiths of Wasatch Blooms and Ali Harrison and Lindy Bankhead of Florage Utah

"Hello again and welcome back to the slow flowers podcast with Deborah Printing episode. Four hundred and twenty tate. This is the weekly podcast about American flowers and the people who grow into signed with them. It's all about making a conscious choice and I invite you to join the conversation and the creative community as we discussed the vital topics of saving domestic flower farms and supporting a floral oral industry. That relies on a safe seasonal and local supply of flowers and foliage. This podcast is brought to you by slow. FLOWERS DOT com the free nationwide online directory to florus shops as students who decide with American grown flowers and to the farms that grow those blooms. It's it's the conscious choice for buying and sending flowers and thank you to our lead sponsor Florus Review magazine. I'm delighted to serve as contributing editor for slow. Oh flowers journal found in the pages of Florus Review. Our partnership with forest review is such a valuable one providing a forum for beautiful and inspiring editorial L. Content in the slow flower journal Section month after month. Thanks to florist review. You can now order a subscription for yourself and give another one as is a gift. This holiday season set your twenty twenty intentions to enrich your personal and professional development. You can find the buy one gift one special offer for members of the slow flowers community at Deborah printing dot com where you can also find the show notes for today's episode. Four hundred and twenty eight. Are I sponsor thanks goes to northwest scream panels. Based in Oregon North West Green panels designs and constructs a wide array of wood framed. Greenhouses offering versatility a style and durability there greenhouses are one hundred percent Oregon made using twin wall polycarbonate manufactured in Wisconsin making North West Green Panel Hannele structures a great value for your backyard. The eight by eight foot. Modern slammed greenhouse has become the essential hub of my cutting garden checkout photos of migraine House House in today's show notes or visit in w green panels dot com to see more. The timing is perfect for today's all Utah episode. Has We're working our way through the A to Z alphabetical list of US states as part of our fifty states will slow flower series. This week we land in Utah sandwiched between last week's Texas focus. A next week's Vermont Focus. You will recall that. I visited UTA this past September to meet with the dynamic group of flower farmers and farmer floors at poppin blossoms were Laura bittered hosted a wonderful gathering and she also join me as a podcast guests. While I was so inspired by that visit. I wanted to learn more. Today's episode will be educational as I speak with the leaders of two groups of Utah Flower farmers whose models bottles are replicable in other markets. So Take Note I. You'll hear from Heather Griffiths of Salt Lake City. She is the president of the UTAH. Cut Flower Farm Association. A new nonprofit formed to promote local and sustainable floriculture by supporting local flower farms through education outreach and research programmes formed in May of this last year the association currently has thirty three members including certified farms and associate members. The group also focuses on educating flower-lovers our lovers on the economic and environmental impact of local flowers as well as on the diversity of flowers available through Utah Flower farms. Next you'll meet Ellie Harrison and Lindy Bank had two women who formed floor edge an informal flower cooperative based in Catch Valley Utah in the northeastern in part of the State near Logan Florida markets and distributes their own flowers as well as flowers grown by several other farms flourishes. A slow flowers member organization committed humidity using sustainable and organic methods to lessen their footprint. On the Earth. No chemicals or preservatives. Sprays are used in bringing their gorgeous blooms straight from their gardens to the table table. This is a juicy episode packed with ideas and inspiration from three women who didn't sit around and ask permission to forge ahead and create a market for locally grown flowers in a state not often associated with ornamental horticulture cut flowers. Here's a bit more background on all three guests. I Heather Griffiths. Heather griffis is a slow flowers member and she owns wasatch blooms a salt lake urban flower farm. She writes this on her about page. When you hold my flowers when you breathe in deep I want you to feel the immense love and connection that I do? I want the flowers I grow to convey the message of profound love for each other. The Earth Earth and ourselves because love is what drives me to grow flowers. I grow sustainably to feed the soil and benefit my community and environment. I blend permaculture ethics with market gardening to grow flowers that do more than decorate the table but that also protect our pollinators and create a diverse ecosystem for the unseen members of our community. Mutiti farming is my passion and my calling. Farming is my artistic expression. Flowers are my heart wrapped in pedals alley. Harrison owns owns Paradise Valley Orchard with her husband Loren their flower. Passion is fueled by the desire to bring natural beauty art into the lives of clients. Paradise Valley L. E. Orchard is a mid century Apple Orchard and a small farm that serves as a backdrop for the weddings and events. They produce on their farm as an artist and self proclaimed hippie. Ellie uses her creativity on her farm daily finding solace in getting her hands dirty alleys the farmers her canvas and the flower garden as her Palette Palette. Her Partner Lindy Bankhead owns PAISLEY FLOWER FARM IN CASH VALLEY UTAH. Lindy is passionate about growing flowers and vegetables as organically organically as possible. She feels blessed to not only be able to raise her four young children alongside the flowers but to also deliver freshly cut stems to local florist and customers. People who value the high quality and sustainability of the vibrant blooms. She grows Lindy came to flower farming. In Two thousand twelve equipped with a degree in landscape architecture from Utah State University a Master Gardener Certification and years of experience working at local greenhouses and nurseries with the help of her patient husband and family only. She's transformed their one hundred year. Old Farm into a gorgeous thriving cut flower operation. Will guarantee you'll see plenty of photos of our Utah. Flora Pioneers in today's show notes at Deborah Printing Dot Com. We'll also have links and more resources so you can find and follow heather. Lindy and Allie. Let's get started. Welcome back to the slow flowers. podcast cast with Deborah Printing. And I'm so excited today to have a entire episode focused on what's happening with local flowers in the State of Utah. Ah Some of you may remember. I visited Utah This past summer and featured Laura Petard of pop and blossoms and the people here today. Today are her cohorts in the state so I love to welcome Heather Griffiths of wasatch blooms. Hi Heather Hi how are you yeah. I'm doing really well. How are you I am great? It was fun to meet in person when I was visiting your beautiful state and it was awesome to meet you. I learned a lot about what you're up up to and I knew I wanted to have you on the podcast. You're tagline is a salt lake urban flower farm. And that just kind of says has it all because you're growing in an urban space but tell me tell us give us a snapshot of Wasatch Blooms and you know what are your services. What's your scope? What do you what do you grow? And then we'll go from there. Yeah so such blooms. Is it like it says an urban flower farm. I'm actually upscaling from micro farm to an urban farm. So is so that's a nice development and I offer mostly wholesale this year my first season I did farmers market and that was a great learning experience. And to get my name out there as well This this last season I focus on wholesale and say as well as Doing a small far market And then hopefully next year I want to expand into grocery stores. Well so are you saying you just wrapped up your second full all season as a flower sort of as a flower enterprise. Yes okay wow and so I mean. That's not surprising. Based on if people remember my a conversation with Laura it's a pretty young phenomenon happening in your state in terms of it is even realizing that flowers grow in Utah right right. It's really amusing. In fact I was at the. NC R S office awhile back and getting a soil probe to test my soil and the security officers there because it's a federal zero building like you can grow flowers than Utah like people don't they don't even though they can seize any as an pansies throughout the landscaping at the shopping. Shopping centers like they just doesn't occur to them. There's a climate here that does well for flowers. Yeah yeah that's crazy. Well describe the climate like what zone are you. And what is your growing Susan. Though Utah actually has a lot of like micro climates northern. Utah can easily be zone. Six as some places are five where I hi Matt I'm zone seven A.. Okay and so the season typically typically. It's from mid April to the end of October. Although this year we had a really short season due to heavy rains in the spring and then a really a fairly early frost in the beginning of October. and Are you considered because of your elevation high desert. I hear that term a lot and I'm not quite sure what states it encompasses but in general I feel like the rocky mountain range. Yes yeah we are considered high desert area we. We don't get a lot of water. We I think this last because of the rain from the spring it was. It was through for a loop because we're used to not having any water. We had an abundance abundance of water. And all those things. I pointed out early not early on time wonderfully stunted as of all the rain saw aw is a just is at those. What I've heard from people all over the country and that there's just so much unpredictability from season to season? Yeah in recent years while I'm staring at a photo on your home page With you I think it's you holding a beautiful bouquet with Fox gloves loves and scabby Osa and serenity and Gorgeous Dahlia's and Bergamo Manara and there is a beautiful arrangement so I what yeah I'd love to. Have you describe how you how and and not what you grow but also how you've done it in such a small scale l. with the micro farm and what does that mean for upscaling to something a little larger though my micro farm the first two years has been my backyard yard and I my is only a tenth of And so my garden space is only like around twelve hundred square feet S- But but then I leased space in a garden space in southern and south. Salt Lake I gave me brought me up about twenty two hundred square feet and the what I did. Without the way I manage that was I did like fifty percent fillers and then fifty percent focal flowers and I always get people. Ask me like. How do we know which ones to grow? And I think and I always say when it comes time to plant them the ones you put in I obviously your priority point and yeah and so because you people love to buy all the seeds right And so on I kept small. I mean I knew. I could grow enough to have twenty five to thirty bouquets at at the farmer's market depending it was about a ten to twelve stem count per bouquet And I knew I could n when I backed away from the farmers market and I knew I whoa went wholesale. I knew I could provide easily one hundred bunches of Zinnias like even though the one hundred bunches of Zinnias isn't a whole lot not doing it on a smaller scale and focusing on just a few crops made it so that I could be successful at it and offer the quantities. That people needed even. If I didn't don't have quite the diversity I also think obviously you have a good eye for color and you have just you know schooled yourself on on what you know. What florus are excited about whether you're just pouring your over people's instagram fees or just being talking to people your your palate is at least what I see on? Your website is definitely more floral folk florus professional floors focus than Dan. What you typically see at a farmers market yeah? I took some time to reach out to Florus last February and to see what it is that they wanted even. Yeah no I had already bought the majority of my seeds and to to kind of build those friendships and relationships with them and it has made all the difference just reaching out to them on a personal eleven connecting with them in that way it has an. It's really been a great influence for me. And I feel like it also gives them more of a perspective of what they can expect locally. Because like you you look. This doesn't really do well in Utah. You have to have a lot of protection high tunnel or low tunnel and even then it's it's Kinda I haven't I've grown like one or two plants just to see but it's not something that I want to focus on because there's other things that I can do and do end succeed at so that's a really a good point. I feel like you have even though you're limited in space. You do have a distinct advantage because you're in the metro market of Salt Lake. And that sounds like that's that's where the not all the floors are. Obviously the State of Utah seems to be a big wedding destination wedding state but at least the the options of people that you could approach to sell wholesale to They're they're kind of collected in within the urban corridor right right and then When I said earlier that was upscaling to an urban farm? I actually just signed a lease earlier in the year for this for this next season for up to an acre her at a at an existing farm so that gives me an opportunity to go even larger and to provide more device diversity that I want to give so oh so with that property and I remember. You mentioned that when we met Heather are you. Is that going to replace your second location now or are you going to ultimately have okay okay. So you're still going to have your your where you live and then a newly steria. Yeah in fact because I the newest area is substantial enough. I'm hoping hoping to turn my back yard backing just my veggies. So what's the what's the additional do additional hassle to go to a different location or is it's close enough with because of its in the city that it's it's not an inconvenience No it's a it's a bit of a drive. It's about about a thirty minute drive but having all but in my where I live Lot of urban farmers to get the amount of acreage they have it split up between six or more plots and so to get that acreage in one location with water resources. It's absolutely worth the drive. And that's great and it makes it and my kids love coming coming out there with me so I can get stuff done without too many interruptions. Do you find that. You'll you'll do anticipate you'll you'll go every day I suppose it depends on what your activities whether you're planting or later in the season harvesting right now it's easily been Preparing for fall implanting bulbs and getting my high tunnel setup. It's been going every day. But now things are slowing down as the enemies are getting ready to go and I don't you have to grow every day so maybe I can actually enjoy a morning by myself at home while the kids are in school Wow that's great. So have you talked about wanting to get back to vegetables Chagos in your backyard it. Do you have a background in food farming or like. How did your journey lead you to flowers and to form wash blooms? Yeah so I save. My upbringing was very like urban country. I think that's a very appropriate term horses and chickens and I raised bum. Lambs all on like an acre or less but growing up we didn't really have the Veggie Garden. We didn't do farming in college. I took a graduate course on farm culture and literature which opened my eyes to the need for local food and the and that was easily like ten years ago now and and then when we bought our home and there was a small existing garden and I started gardening. I realized how passionate I was about it. I am about it It's so easy for me to to go head first into something that once. I know that this is this is good. This is good for me. I want to move forward with but and one year so after being here for two or three years we we spent a spring in southern Utah. spent like two months two months in southern Utah. It was great but I when I came back. I thought I had missed the planting season for flowers but I hadn't it. It's just ignorance and and so I didn't. I didn't have any flowers that year. I only had garlic ties and himself. Seated COSMO's right and and it wasn't until my kids are putting garlic chives in my hair to make a fire crown on me that I was like. Oh I need flowers. I need in my life in my garden and that was just for personal at the time. It wasn't a business right right absolutely for personal and so I started researching how to grow flowers what the different requirements are and. That's when I learned about about the slow flower movement. What you've done and realizing that you know I think I can do this here in Utah and I went before I even started? I went around to all the farmers markets near me and real end. There was no one at the time. There was no flower vendors. No far no fire. Farmers not even vegetable farm farmers selling flowers on aspide nothing so really young industry than or in terms of the potential. Yeah and so then. I realized I could fill that gap I could bring in About Resource and people would appreciate it because it's not already there and then within the next season I started my farm and my business into really well at the farmer's market and then the next season it turned into like what looked from all of my research I can only find maybe three or four farmers and then from the next year it went up to like forty farmers in the state in the state. Will I know we're I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I know we're going to talk about your statewide project but I have a few other questions about the market in Salt Lake before we do that. at did I tell you off. I didn't mean to cut you off. Now you're once you started reaching out to Florus and trying to develop your Wholesale channels what did you learn? Where were they buying their flowers? I guess I've just conventional wholesale a florist in town. Is that Kinda what. What was the only option at the time? Yeah so there are Irish out to the florist that I saw that. Were already trying to buy local or took grow their own. I reached out to them. I and and I had a few floors reach out to me on our own but even then it was like because there are so few you they couldn't there was still a lot of space for as long as mace for local farmers Even with a handful of floors that really make it a priority to source local and so yeah it most majority of it is imported There's a handful of wholesalers in the state. And so it's it's a lot of the standard imported flowers that you would find But with all the farmers coming up there's more awareness and the Force are actually seeking out a little bit more which is Great. That's great. I'm really glad to hear that. But I think what you described as pretty much was the landscape across all of the US in every mos most markets except for maybe California where like. I just spoke at the Montana. State Florist Association. Right after we saw you guys in September and they have no wholesaler in the whole state. No kind of conventional import driven wholesalers so it in a way that sounds dire but in another way. It's kind of opening up an opportunity for local flowers because as you can have stuff trucked in from you know from spokane or Portland but those trucks aren't coming every day so when you have that kind of last minute order or that you know urgent emergency day before wedding you have to turn to a local flower farmer. So it's kind of an interesting phenomenon seems like your presence. Since in many parts of Utah mostly kind of you know the Salt Lake. It seems like that's sort of core area especially where there's like venues for weddings. That's sort of deriving that there's avoid and you're filling it now. There's driving that demand for more. I don't know garden. Uh Garden Moody Emotional sensory flour. Yeah wow well. You were alluding alluded to the fact that you have decided to become an advocate statewide which is so awesome? And you've started the UTAH. Cut Flower our farm association. And I think I I learned about this maybe win. I think maybe you popped up on my instagram or fate or something thing but you talked about a quite a bit more about when we were together this past fall and I really want people to hear about this because there's so. Many regional hubs hubs for flowers that are popping up around the country but very few of them are forming state associations. I feel like that's a different direction. You chose to go in. So how did this get started. And and what kind of decisions did you make to create your organization. Well it started when I recognize the exponential growth in farmers immersed in Utah and having 'cause Utah has a very specific climate and it varies even widely within the state There's very specific challenges to growing in Utah. And there's not a lot of resources to know how to grow something well 'cause I I love to research I love to know all the INS and outs and then take that first step so I feel prepared and and when everything is coming out of Oregon and or The east coast host and that's a very different climate and you can't you have to figure it out. There's no one to guide you. You're absolutely right. Even the even the agriculture people don't know about flowers flowers probably in Utah right and that's actually our local land grant. University has started a fire research program which is awesome and the woman heading that is also on our aboard which is fantastic. She such valuable resource and so I wanted. I wanted to form the association because I really value the community over competition because it can so easily go from cure is a market that is thriving arriving and growing and doing really well to all of a sudden. Now it's it's flooded and people don't know what to ask and everyone is trying for their flowers. They don't know the prices to ask for and everyone's trying to outsell the other person or they're just trying to make their back their initial investment. And it's like if we if I can help other people succeed as a farmer. I know I will do better as a farmer and by creating community and creating awareness because that's that's our two main goals is to create a community of farmers and to create awareness for local flowers because it's still still so young and people are starting to catch on here in Utah Utah. But there's still a lot of work to you've had nowhere to go but up. You have so much potential so you formed the UTAH. At Flower Farm Association. What in two thousand eighteen eighteen? Actually I leave to start at at this year in. May that I that. We finally got our nonprofit status. That's amazing how did you like. Did you just sell fund. This or was do people make donations or was it all kind of sweat equity well. Initially you know I. I paid the nonprofit on profit knees but because I believe in Slow Sustainable Growth. I don't want to outpace myself and I want to keep my finances separate from from the nonprofit all of our funding is coming from membership fees and a few sponsors. We have some awesome sponsors. I saw that on your website. Yeah I mean you've done a lot Since since the spring. If you've got your nonprofit status you you have aboard right. Is Heather have a eight members on our board including myself. Great and then you have a beautiful You have a website. Don't you think your flower farms dot com great. So we'll share a link so people can look at that and see the How you're how you're communicating and sharing? I mean I'm assuming this is intended to be public facing consumer facing Tool all right yes. So the the whole goal of the website is to make it so that people can find their farmer and we have different tiers of membership. We have the associated member Berg. Who is the person just starting out? Who wants to learn and have that resources in that community So that they can succeed in the certified. Grower which there's someone that's been doing it for two years already because even when you go even if you've been gardening or growing flowers for decades switching to host to sailing there's a different it learning curve and so we wanted to have it be the certified. Grower is so that when a florist or a person is looking for local flowers. They know that this person in this grower is quality and they know what they're doing and that they can trust that they're getting a A valuable okay. That's an interesting term certified growers. So that kind of is like a good housekeeping seal of approval in a way that there's certain benchmarks that people need to meet to achieve that Status than as a member. Yeah and we wanted to. I mean it's not to be exclusionary in any way is just meant to make it so that we can support the associate. Oh she did members this people starting out and give them resources and community and then also promote the people who who've been doing doing this for a while and I know where they're going with it because we wanNA make sure that we're promoting quality local flowers that's interesting it's almost like you're you're able to create best practices and standards for the professional grower and then incubate newer growers who will work their way up into becoming certified growers. Stop lately. Yeah so how did you say how many members you have. Did you say forty. Well no we so. Our members are close two thirty three right now and that's including the associated and the certified growers that's Great Yeah Not all of the farmers in Utah but getting there. I think. That's that's maybe what you said earlier like. You've you've come across about forty people who are now identifying themselves as growing flowers in Utah or something like like Mike in that exponential spike has happened just in the last two or three years. Yeah wow that's amazing. I know. Also you've been acting in a way okay as a media spokesperson for Utah. Flower Farm Association. How how comfortable are you being on TV well advanced TV TV four times now? And every time I'm on I get more and more comfortable last night for the first time I could watch myself without cringing so so it's getting easier especially when I recognize that like it's only three or four minutes because it's such short segments and then I've been on the local radio handful of times mostly from my own farm but then once for the nonprofit as well and it's it's an interesting thing because it's not something anticipated for myself I mean it's kind of fun and exciting but at the same time like I'm trying to promote other farmers like I'm not doing this because I think it'd be fun thing to do and I want that publicity. I'm I'm doing it because I want to. I want to give shadow at to all of the farmers that are doing a great job and that are trying to make a difference because it's not it's easy Z.. To like see myself. Watch the clips of myself on the news and you get an inflated head. No I'm not worried about that so well there's a lot of parallels obviously obviously with what I've done In creating slow flowers and I think that the the goal is Lisa drive more more viewers more listeners. More readers more audience members to that website The only way you can do that is to do. In my opinion to get public relations hits successes and beyond the media in the media as a resource an expert someone sharing information because no one can afford to buy their way up to the top of a Google search. And so really you have to rely on on media so I I encourage Kurshid keep doing it and maybe some of your other cuff lower farm association. You know colleagues will jump in and do the same thing and their markets right. I definitely want to try and unlike Source out because I have the local news station. Come to me a few times saying hey we want to talk about this and I want to try and sourcing like Oh you know this is the farmer talk about. Yeah that's smart. I also feel that in a way. There's so much negative news all the time in our lives and if if somebody who has a chance to show flowers on the front page of a newspaper or on a TV segment. It's like I candy. It's just gives a positive response aunts and so the flowers kind of do the market if you can only get it in front of the right media outlet the flowers. We'll do the work for you. which is really refreshing? Absolutely I feel like there's it's so when he to sell flowers a lot harder to sell. Intellectual property profit is easy to sell flowers though that lead with beauty. I think that's a really cool. Well what kind of programs do you have cooking for for twenty twenty and I know you said you're affiliated with the university. What kind of research is happening that you're involved involved in well? I'm trying to make sure that everything I can say with university public on so we recently they finish up or in the middle of a steady for Dahlia's in Utah growth or nutritional needs and how to grow Dahlia's in Utah. We I was able to get ah handful of cuttings from the university to grow. And they are gonNA stored tubers for me and give me free soil amping sampling's or soil testing thing and information resources. We're doing another spring. I don't bring flowers study of things to grow in low tunnels or under protection in Utah. And then she saw Dr Melanie stock at. US You okay. He is doing a teeny research. Study as well Growing trying to get to bloom for Mother's Day which would be awesome because there's not a whole lot that looms around Mother's Day in Utah Right. Wow it's so great to have that kind of advocate at the academic level who has is more research minded because then that whatever whatever intel comes out of that is shared widely with everyone in the in the profession and so it's kind of no one has to reinvent the wheel they can just learn from this study or or the early spring crops. Study or the or the peonies. I that's really exciting Slowly any certified growers are also. She reaches out toward the nonprofit members for to participate in these studies. I so she reaches out to anybody else which is really nice because we have that opportunity to get re free resources. This is in free education. Oh so you're saying like Multiple people will conduct trials and and at their farms and then the data. Okay wow that's exciting. Well look forward to say more about that and I I love that. The first one was Dahlia's because clearly Dahlia's do grow in Utah. You're growing up there. That's a flower that the consumer just can't get enough of and floors can't get enough of absolutely is so. It's so awesome to to be able to participate in that way into feel like you're contributing to your community through more than just a social media that makes sense. Yeah but see be providing invaluable resource and then because we are still getting off the ground or getting our feet underneath us in trying to move forward. We actually have a lot of that. We're trying to I do like we want to You WanNa hold quarterly meetings with our members to host a free workshops for members do farm tours of the different farms in Utah. Aw we really want to create a strong sense of community and support. You want people to feel like they are. They're valuable. What they are doing is valuable label and that they know how to present themselves and to Had you succeed with their farm business. That's great. That's really exciting. Think well will you share some photos of washout blooms and what you're doing especially this past season when you really went when strong at a wholesale well and also if you have any group have any group shots. I don't know if you've had any photos of your gatherings or anything you WANNA share about the the Utah Cut Flower Farm Association. I'd love to show that with our our listeners will have. Everything's Yeah Great. We'll post everything DE PRINTING DOT COM for this episode. Let me just end biogas. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your story and tell us about some exciting news coming out of UTAH. I'm really excited that you're part of slow flowers and I look forward to doing some more collaboration. The future thank you and thanks for what you said about my bouquet. Because I don't do a lot of floors free myself but I made that on a win and so that you've got you've got you've got a great aesthetic a- and I and I do think that the more you become familiar what you're growing the better designer you become right. Oh yeah absolutely and I feel like I only want to learn my Florida trees. I learn forestry so I can better serve florus because I don't WanNa be a farmer florist. I just want to grow. So that's cool. Okay thank you so much other is really fun talking to you. Thank you have a great day. You too thanks Pam so excited to Turn our attention to part two of our special episode about what's happening in Utah and I WANNA welcome to women who have formed the flourish cut. Flower co-op please speak Ellie Harrison and Lindy bankhead high ladies high. It'll be hard for people to get get used to your voices so Ali Why don't you go first. Tell us a little bit about what where you're located geographically in the state. I mean everyone knows about Salt Lake. But what region are is Florida's kind of focusing on in terms of farming and client services. So we we are in what's called CACHE VALLEY UTAH The big town here is Logan. Okay so we're about an hour and a half north of salt lake. Kind of directly. North An of nestled in a valley three mountainous. Here they're beautiful so an arm is actually ten miles south of Logan running very southern end of the valley. Okay and your your farm is Paradise Valley Orchard Right Okay and I just have to say as an aside You and your husband came to our slow flowers meet up in was that September I guess when I was in Utah so I got a little bit of your story and that's when I was that you tease me and I knew I wanted to get you on the podcast to talk about what you Julie. Lindy tell us about your farm and where you're located. Sure well I am located in cash valley as well My farm is called Paisley Flower Farm. And I'm on South into cache valley like Ali My farms actually. You come out the Canyon As you inter-caste Valley there's beautiful. Green Scape Green Farms. And we're located right there. Oh my husband right and Are Poor children live there. It's actually my husband's family farms that he grew up on and it's been in the family who are more than one hundred years. It's it's actually. One of the centennial arms. In Utah Things family owned and farmed for over one hundred years so we feel really lucky that we get to the girl there and live there and the beautiful region. If anyone wants to come visit the gorgeous station Utah come to cash valley. Ooh I will come next time. I'm in the state because I only got to wear. Did I go PROVO. I guess that wasn't very wasn't very far from career. So how did you to find each other and like when did this sort of realization that you wanted to create a co op happen. I'm just I mean I just got done talking with Heather Griffiths about the Utah Cut Flower Farm Association. How there's not a lot of people farming and Utah shots of very young industry and so I'm just delighted that you have already formed a co OP How did you do that so oh man? I don't know we story. This is like asking asking a couple of how they met at a wedding. So funny so My husband and I out here in paradise It's actually apple orchard. We bought it an apple orchard. And it's got all the spider equipment so we decided pressing and so I mean Deborah I'm going way back. Yeah Okay So. This is like the origin story so anyways so Linde it was an apple prepping customer and she would come and cause a big part of our businesses. We make our own fighter but we also press apples for other people apple to and it's it's a really cool kind of a cool thing that we do so she would show up and bring your apples and we started chatting. One day I found out she group lower I I was like hey come here look growing all these hours out here and she looks at my flowers and she's like I could totally sell that and that is literally. Hey how the co-authored I wanted her flowers. I've been Gr- so this is Linda Yeah. I can't recognize voices but I've been growing rolling flowers for about seven years on our farm and I had established client telling cash valley the Florida's have been great eight to support me as kind of a part time venture for me where I did it with my kids and it was the You know during the summer we did it and then the a winter we had off and when the alley and I I was like yeah I could sell that and I need some of that for one of my customers and she needed some of my flowers lower and it kind of blossomed from there. He's the PUN. How but Linde years growing cut flowers? You were like the pioneer. Are you near and the state. Did you think you were just this lonely. Little flower grower. And nobody else was doing what you were doing. I had no idea that I was a pioneer. Yeah because I just have doing what I was doing. You Know I. I was so busy with my kids and trying to produce the product and sell it but but I really didn't branch out to market it or to the public very much An Alley and I laugh because we really love how it came together because we are so different and brought such different talents and backgrounds to the table. That that's what's really made it work alley has is really the Focused in and has a lot of history with working with the public and marketing graphic design. And really getting your name out there and so will we came together and it just works because we really had two different talents that we can meld together and two different kind of focuses that worked on And then let her Linda Linda your you when you said I totally sell that. That tells me that you doc. You're not an introvert either. You obviously get out and sell but that you were you had to bring to the partnership is a little more awareness of Selling flowers that's specific niche. Is that right. Yeah you know. And that's what I focused my hope business on was selling to local flora Chris. I didn't do a lot with the general public. I didn't do a lot with the wholesaler. But I really had established a good clientele of Flores. Morrison you me and knew my stuff and knew that I was going to be consistently there with product and I think that's what we've really enjoyed about. The CO walk is that we offer to each other New Types of flowers to take our forest. You know as a as a small-time grower you can't do it all and so it was fun to see something that Allie was growing that I've never grown the floor and I it excited me and excited my florist. And you're like Oh something new in the track so lindy were you doing your own kind of delivery route and then kind of is a solo flop floral poor and now now. You've moved everything over to Florida or tell me about the structure of how you're how you're moving flowers. I from your farms to the marketplace. There's so yes when it before I know Ali. I was just running flowers to cache valley. That was kind of the geographical area. I set for myself that I can sit in to my family life So I- twice a week. I would sell the floors in cash valley and that pretty much tear what I was growing But I could see the need that if we're going to grow more. We needed to expand valley. High came together that winter after we started working together. We both were like. Hey we need to expand an ally of course enthusiastic. Allie was like well. I'll take taking salt lake and Ogden So it was great because we help each other again we could sell each other's flowers. Uncover a larger geographic area so before you met Linda Elliot. Were you just enjoying the flowers on your property or mark just selling them for people who came for the CIDER and apple activities or had you actually also started wholesaling so I had really sold any flowers before and that Lindy wing were doing at that point quite a few weddings and events on our farm and I started the cool thing where we do. We did like affirmed affirmed table wedding package and I would actually sit down with the bride and we would some through the seed catalogs and they would pick out powers that I would grow for their wedding in August. Yeah people love. I mean. We didn't do that many. I did a handful of suck all I can handle and we're a small farm so obviously these are very small events. It's but that's kind of what started as I started growing flowers for the wedding I did grow. Flowers grow hours for years so before we did the wedding I I was just growing We did VEG- vegetables for the local farmers market and I always grew giant. Our Patch and I would sell Bouquets buckets took wires. It's wormers market like not anything. A big quantity just something to make space beautiful So and then from there I we started being wedding. Are Custom grow the flowers but we have obviously so many leftover. You know that I was trying to figure out things to do with with leftovers and we would have people come by invited the site or in the apples in the fall and I would sell flowers out of the store so I was just telling them in these little kind of weird way a really trying to turn a profit on them but didn't WanNa compost all W now we have some money so when I met Lindy the flowers that she saw out out in the field and in my garden was for a wedding there were locked over wedding allows us what year was that was what human two years ago now on these. That was last year was the last year two thousand eighteen. We met two years ago and then yeah. 'cause we couldn't timeline together but then we came together and started a link started selling my first team spring. So you Kinda used you both had these voice in your businesses and coming together you. What prompted you to think of creating a hybrid business and using the CO OP model and I The reason I ask is I think there's a lot of questions going on around around the whole. US and Canada. When I meet with people who are trying to look at what model for like a collaborative effort would work best for them because there are seven minutes for profit? There's there's legal co OPS. There's informal normal co ops. There's facebook groups all these ways that people can kind of team up. And how did you decide to do the model. You know it really evolved solved based on our needs. We just found that winter as we assessed. Where do we want this to go? What do we WANNA do? We knew that we wanted to grow a large quantity of flowers. And we want to cover a larger geographical area and so you know last winter this last fall at this time we in had decided. Okay we'll grow and we sat down together and this was important we decided. What do you like to grow? And what do I like to grow. We wanted to the sites as we didn't saturate our market with the same flowers that was important to able to offer a wide range of different types hypes bloom so we decided. You know you're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA head to Salt Lake and Ogden and I'm going to stick with my cash valley row and that's how we will seller flowers. We'll do some workshops. We'll do our pop up shops that have become really popular and we'll go from there. Wellspring came and some of the other growers in Cash Cache Valley and Ogden heard through us and through the grapevine. What we're doing and they're like? Oh I don't want to sell but I grow. Would you take my stuff too. You and so then that kind of ruin our mind. The Hey we could help out other growers that are smaller than ourselves. Is it like to grow. But don't necessarily have the time resources to sell because it is a lot of time and effort to sell the flowers and get them to the floor fright and it just snowball this last spring where we brought on what about ten defeating growing it was crazy at the peak season. We had a ton learned of people throwing flowers on our trucks which is awesome but sounds like you don't want to say no to anybody and and you know kind of test the limits of how far you can push this. Yes and we did it. There would cut Tom Com time in the season. Where we say you know what we have so many Sam draggers? There's we can't take any more of your staff dragging but that stuff over there. It looks really nice. The lillies really don't have any of those. So we actually we. You've learned so much this growing season whereas so important for small growers to grow what excites them. But also they want to sell large ars quantities really specialized into something unique and exciting. So that you know we're not all doing the same thing. I have important so really side. What's going to be exciting? What you're really good at growing? Well see on your site under meet our growers. There are at least eight farms identified. I'm sure that there's more coming and going. We're kind of trying to figure out how this all works But does impressive awesome for like really this is ninety. Two Thousand Nineteen was your first season. Right yeah wow okay. So what is the mechanism awesome for marketing. These flowers do you have availability lists or do you just show up with a you know a truck flowers like what what has been. What have you found to be the best S. way to connect with these wholesale customers so we send out a weekly availability email and we usually try to send it out on the weekend like Thursday Friday that way? The the florist can Molin overall weekend and start putting in orders for the following week for that Monday so we sent unavailability week Email and it's got the picture of the flowers the price you know it first-come-first-served We we do two ways we put together orders so so forests can go on They respond back to the email we put together. They can put it in order for stuff that you want. And then we also have quite a big selection of what we call Spec on the truck which is just whatever we have that might not have been in quantities enough to put orders. It's a specialty stuff. It's weird stuff. Whatever they want to choose from that's not in their order They shut up shop. They shop from the truck in person than with when they show up. Okay Okay Yep wow. That's kind of mind. Boggling to the farms does everybody come to a central like loading a Destination you know what we did. This last season is we have farmers based on where route is is power willing to the. We're willing to me and we kinda set up based on the farmers individual needs where we'd meet them out We at the end of the season we had to kind of tweak that we learned from that that there really just isn't enough hours in the day to accommodate everybody so we you know. We're looking forward to the next year to having the growers meet us at the coolers you know get those flowers are not riding on trucks in the back of our cars that they need to come to where our coolers are and get them in the cooler and just make it a little bit more efficient that way so that was Lindy yet so lindy. Are you saying that like you have a cooler at your arm. Many people if they can get the flowers to you kind of you know. Make sure the flowers get completely chilled overnight before you do the deliveries or this Allie. Allie is only one with a cooler Seattle giant walking cooler with her apple. Pregnant right operates umbrella. My husband and I are actually in the process of buying and putting in a cooler Because that is a high priority for us that we're delivering the best stuff to the forest of Cork Twenty twenty year old both have coolers than yes And we we always want. I WanNa make sure that the flowers are cutting immediately getting coolers that they're not riding around all day waiting to get chilled That kind of one of our top priorities. Make sure sure we've always got really high quality stuff to take the Florida that's exciting And then the what is the do you have two vehicles vehicles going out or re. I mean these rats are sounds like you're covering a lot of territory geographically for reaching the the the the flora's customers. Yeah so this is Allie So yeah all I feel like I'm I tell people a delivery driver and I sometimes grow flowers. Yeah I was like my mom was like. You're basically a long haul trucker. Yeah so we're a long haul truckers lowers Yes Oh Lindy. She takes care of Cache Valley and and she goes all the way up to Preston So I don't know Lindie how many miles you cover I cover about between two fifty three hundred mile vice a week week. Wow And right now I'm just using my Honda pilot won't stop amazing. How many flowers I can get in that? I learned learned this year after this was a big learning key to to us is. You've got to have a good delivery truck And so I- next six year. I'm I'm looking at renting delivery van through those busy moms and then Halley will tell you what her solution so I started my route. Now I was just GonNa do Ogden. You Know Oh star in Brigham City and Ogden and then of course it quickly snowballed the more flowers. The we we were growing and taking on and the growers the more people I started adding to the route and so now I drive is clear I drive as far as draper. which is I don't know I gotta think about the mileage but It's a two hour drive from here so I was in. I was driving twice a week. We both go Mondays and Thursdays We yeah so I was driving criminal Wendy. What kind of mileage driving? Oh so much it would take me eight hours. I would be in the car. Eight nine hours. I'll every day I would get up at three four in the morning Unload the truck and then I would just go and I would stop at. I think at the peak season then I was hitting about twenty two stops. Wow that's lean my house and draper. That's amazing because I've heard that the average stops a bucket truck can handle maybe a dozen so oh crazy no it was not insane. I don't know yeah I'm crazy if you maybe I mean I'm totally I I love I love it I mean capable women have to run this world and you're making things happen and that's what matters do I also realized right away after we started taking on all these growers and having all these flowers that I quickly needed to upgrade my car I just had a small smallest. Ub and I was packing. I mean I got flowers coming out of the box and open the back of my car and it was so uh-huh pack and it just I at one point I was like okay. We're done. My husband was actually working out of town and I went went to like a truck shop like a dealership and bought refrigerated truck and just drove it home that day. That's and then I call them on my faith. We just bought a refrigerator truck and he's like cool. It's a giant diesel truck and the backup camera was busted so I had to learn how to drive that diesel truck. I was driving it down. I not that I was writing. I am driving not not truck downtown. Salt Lake in the middle of those high rise buildings trying to park on sidewalks. It was crazy crazy but like it's soap on I love it. It's it's nuts but I actually don't mind the driving. I love seeing the florist. I love that delivery part. That's something I I don't necessarily want to give up. I want to still be. The delivery. Person has an accent. Like yeah and it sounds like the two of you are the face of your co owners of the business us right or the CO op. And so you're the face you're kind of the public facing connection between these flora's and the flowers of many farm arm so you can't lose. That sounds like a really important part of your brand. Yeah yeah this is Wendy That's something we've learned and I've learned over seven years. This is one of the most important parts of growing flowers. Is that connection with the forest. Just making that At relationship they come to trust you and really know you and you really sell flowers right there on the street in parking lot like I had no idea when I started flower farming that I would become a those women. Trucker and parts of the job isn't so interesting well so you've mentioned that you kept adding stops and customers and were you just cold calling floors that you would find on. I don't know on instagram. Or did you get word of mouth. Referrals I mean. Was it just the sound like that that that was a hurdle that was hard to jump over for both of you doc. Yes so alley I wouldn't he had had her establish route. She was growing seven years and you know and she he can tell you a little bit more about how she found her for us. But I just did a Google search like Flores in Utah I started going I would. I did some call before have mostly. I would just show up because Laura's are so visual. They want to see the flower. They want to touch the flower. They want to bury their face in the flower. They want to smell it. They want to meet me so the calling actually didn't even get that far. I would just show up I would. I would take along with me when I was trying to expand my route and get more people I would you just just right in a no pat all of the florists that I wanted to visit and their address and I would just show up and I was like my name is Ali I have our co op and and I would open the back of my car or truck. Whatever I was driving and I often giveaway samples from the riot? Lemnos think and I just told the route when I would be stopping and went from there and pretty much every floor absolutely one thousand percent. I'm super excited. I did because nobody's doing well. I asked the same question of Heather Griffiths about what's happening in Salt Lake specifically and I think you'll probably have a similar answer and that is where were these flores buying flowers before you came into their lives. Yeah this is Lindsay. Yeah they're buying from wholesalers. They're shipping being them in from across the world and Really down seven years ago even when I cold called The abuse the florist in Cash Valley famer excited the first floor called. She's like yes. I'll drive out there. Let me come with it. What you're doing And still bear hungry for local flowers. They know the quality. They know that they're getting something. That has been lovingly grown. That has was just cut that morning. And it's really cool to work with the ones that are on board with local flowers because they're willing to will be flexible Certainly local flowers. There's a seasonality to it frightened. And there's also the risks of it that we can't guarantee when the tulips are going to open exactly and they're always really willing to work with us and it's been really fun and who for not relationship and I love going to them. This is another really positive thing of forming. That relationship is they've taught me you show show up and they're like Oh you know well. By these I can get all these for my wholesalers so we grow some of these other colors or the price. I'm paying for these the or hey when I get these in. I like him bunch like this and they're really willing to share information and encourage us and really try to and help us build our farms because it really it deposited them. Wow and how can I ask you how you're on your making this work for yourselves financially. Obviously you're doing the front end of all lot of the work on behalf of these other firms and you're obviously having to take some kind of percentage of sales is is standardized yet or are you still trying to work out. How you're doing that with your member farms? Sure are distant Lindy again What Ellie and I worked out last year two thousand eighteen was a seventy thirty percent split? Okay okay so the grower takes home seventy percent what cell and then whoever goes out and sells it takes thirty percent for that time and effort to go out and sell it and that's what we set up between both of us then. We talked to quite a few different people about different floors. Different businesspeople the people accountants. You talk to each other and we just both felt like that was fair between us. You know the grower should take some percent and really if anyone's John's ever gone out and sold and time and effort and the money that goes into that thirty percent is totally fair to compensate for that effort Absolutely and that's what we just presented to our growers. That wanted to come in on. We've said this you send us the flowers that you grow that you'd like to sell certainly they don't need to send us all of them just whatever they bite to sell and It's on commission. So we take that and men We just tell them up front. Seventy thirty and after canal consigned consignment. Is that what you had commissioned. Oh I'm sorry the rally Yeah after we saw we just keep tr- very careful notes of what sells and then we We reconcile at the end of the month. We write them out of big check and it was awesome for me actually in September to see the numbers of what Allie sold of my flowers in Salt Lake and then valley and Jackson. She needs to talk about why she suddenly was in Jackson Hole Valley. Well before we wrap up. That's the big news here. When I looked at those numbers I looked Allinson? Hey Growth Darsur you. She wrote me out a big big checking. I was like I love that seventy percent. You know it sets an advantage to me because all those trips and all that mileage ended up up being a great big check for me for her just taking my stuff on consignment. It's really works out. Great especially for people that know the effort and the time and the expense that goes into selling to flora. And so on this is Allie. I'd wanted to add that right now. The CO OP is not a legal entity. Not It's just. We haven't registered as like a legal co-op I know there's legal definitions of co-op we are calling a co-op walk because it is basically an association of growers and sellers. Yeah So I don't want to mislead people because it's not. We haven't done anything them. To legally define ourselves for government purposes their tax purposes or anything as a CO OP so it's like a marketing collaborative kind of Yes yes collaborative versus a co OP. So I just wanted to make that clear that we're that's the name floor edge just encompasses a collection skin of lower farmers sellers. And thank you both for being transparent about the money situation because I think that that is. It's a business and you are not in this for this to be a hobby you putting a lot of sweat equity into it and you have to you know what the values of what you're you're bringing to the farms that are enjoying your services so that's very helpful. Yeah okay so we have Before we wrap up we have to hear a little bit of news about what's going on with new markets and Elliott. I feel like I should. Maybe maybe we should do another episode about this when we have more time. Give us a snapshot of your crazy expansion plans okay. I'm going to try to keep it's really short and you and I could probably be like nine our podcast on this but Yeah so basically my husband and I just recently eh purchased an existing our farm in Idaho blackfoot Idaho combined. We'd farm and Deborah know that you know Ralph and Jerry and really. Well we've podcast with. Yes they're passes podcasts. Amazing people. Yeah so we just TAC- and it would actually funny through the success. Awesome the CO-OP when we really started looking at it and I just found the passion of crowing and selling and I was just like I want got to do this for the rest of my life. I love this so much I had no idea. It was inside of me to be this passionate about hours and selling and and just all the things about it like I love building a website and marketing and just everything that goes into what we do adjust down at like. I loved it so any the opportunity to buy bind leads to Poland. Were laugh again. That's part of the nine our podcast that you can report On it kind of distill into our laps the stars aligned everything aligned and here we are we. We took over in October so we just got back while we go up all the time. It's a two hour drive from here so we can't do a day trip up there we need to but we often spend the night up there. And there's a little apartment on the formally family stay out which is Super Nice But we planted. I think we're at like forty eight thousand two hundred Several thousand daffodils. So we've got about thirty five hundred innocuous or putting in we're trying to get all those fall crops in this is a a i. I don't know Deborah. Have you been up there. Have you been since now title. Haven't I haven't I'll have to meet with you there sometime. We'll do a whole road trip all over anyway. Yeah so we I Katrina soft money for a second. Just give people a little context find. We'd find. We is one of those farms that people have looked looked at for decades as the most successful model of selling into kind of luxury destination markets from a very rural place and as a- At least that's been my observation and Jerry on Sabin and Ralph Thurston were the founders of it and just maybe two years ago or three. They sold sold the business to their nephew and he kept the name bind. We'd often Cherian went on and started Dead head cut flowers which is kind of teaching saying writing workshop venture and then I guess band their nephew decided to sell. And and that's how you were able to acquire the farm you bought by eight from him. But Ralph and Jerry and are Kinda like the Fairy Godmother Fairy Godfather who are kind of keeping keeping everything everything going in terms of sharing knowledge. Yeah yeah actually still live there so we kind of the the farm kind of wrapped around their house. Saturday night live there which is amazing because we go up there and Ralph magically appears like some like a serial being when he's on and he's like hey what do you WanNa know today. I I know just like seriously. I'm scribbling notes and we cup like walked that property like a thousand times and I'm just like I'm getting this like crash course from guru himself every time up there and it's been so wonderful so cool. I've got the built in like encyclopedia that lived on my farm. Now the Utah Flowers which are making their way up into those Idaho and Wyoming markets and then the and the reverse is happening where those some of those flowers that maybe that's a different cultural cultural conditions. I'm not sure but maybe things that hadn't quite come into some of the Utah Destination Markets. It's the synergy going on between these two two states or three states actually. Yeah I'm GonNa let Linney talk about that really quick She really noticed her Lawrence. You're in cash. Valley were really used just to kind of what she was growing. And then you know they got a taste of what. I grew here Paradise Alley but then when bind we'd we started bringing down the vine week. Flowers It was kind into mind boggling if you wanted to tell her yeah yeah I just. I'm over here just cheering them on I of course being in this market for for seven years I knew bind weed. I knew what they were and alley called me up one day like. Hey We're thinking about buying find we'd like what do you think about that. My the judges. Yes how handy for you levy well. It's really lovely to be able to have this little connection and I look forward to meeting Ralph Jerry. I never have yet But it was fun because bind weeks for last summer joined our co op and able to Alley brought those flowers down and we were able to deliver them to the forest in cash valley in Salt Lake and expand their market and then all of our flower a bunch of our flowers went up into their markets and it was just so cool cool to watch the florist and when I would mention he came from a farm in blackfoot. Idaho's like oh wow how cool that. I get to shop from all these local farm from northern Utah to Southern Idaho. Wow Right Laura's just love it. I think that's one of the most exciting exciting things is to offer them. Not only the diversity of flowers but the diversity of local arms that they get to support very easily and it's kind of like a bigger super-region that you've put together now that Just gives you a more competitive edge as as a CO OP in terms of more selection more choice and maybe a little season extension. I'm not quite sure but I better stream of of choices for for the Florus. Yeah they're similar but they are just slightly different which is cool? I think it here in Utah with our season is just enough longer that we can provide those flowers to Sun Valley Jackson a little bit earlier and a little bit later while which is really cool so yeah just having that kind of the the different seasons In the big game changer That we found for being able to do this and travel. Those super long distances was was getting their refrigerated truck has been able to let us dried these hours like all over the place without compromising the quality of our yeah. You've got a highly perishable product and it's like tiffany diamond you've got to keep it yell well nurtured or Nestle the happy. Yeah lowered well. Will you both share some photos of your farms and your flowers and what. You're doing thing with us. So we can add them to the show notes and I feel like for the show no I need to have a map of Utah with dots. All over it show all these destinations. So allie maybe I'll work on that with you. Yeah we city names that you you did and I feel a little bit geographically challenged but that's okay because it'll mean a lot to some people well and others will show them a map so they can get a sense of the vastest of your market and and the potential which is inspiring. I just be. I want the listeners to know that before we started recording. Is Lydian Alley. How they want it to end this interview in terms of talking about what's going on for next season and they both confided that they're excited to sleep in? So we're we're clearly at the end of your season right yeah. November is assigned to sleep in the bed to sleep. Get the two lobes in and Just look forward to next year. We're we're kind of just regurgitating everything we've learned this year and making plans and of course giving out the seed catalogs and we you know we don't have anything on the horizon which fill kinda good after the ICEES and I think it's a good period of time to regroup and and make some decisions about how Florida cut flower cough is going to look next year and it's GONNA look it'll be bigger and serve more customers and I think that's a great great story to share. Yes yes we're excited for next season. Well I I will I will. I will put Blackfoot Idaho on my map. Hopefully we can and meet. I've been telling Ralph and Jerry and I'm coming at some point so I'm no slacker. I've promised for a couple of years and haven't done it so allie. We'll try to make that happen and I look forward. Let me housing lender. It sounds like what you're doing is is just really inspiring and it's GonNa Inspire people listening to this today. Yeah thank you for sharing our story. I appreciate AH okay ladies. Thanks so much nine Thanks so much for listening in on today's inspiring conversations. I have a big grin on my face as I reflect on the energy and enthusiasm shared by these floral entrepreneurs in Utah. There's lots more to come from this conversation. And I'm already eager to plan future episodes triggered by some of the topics we discussed today from learning more about Dr Melanie Stocks Fox cut-flower Research at the Utah State University to hearing how an established cut flower farm like bind weed in Idaho has changed hands from its founders to new owners alley and Lauren not enough time today but I hope to revisit Utah and the slow fires member there in twenty twenty stay tuned Our next sponsor thanks goes to May ash. Wholesale Florist family owned since nineteen? Seventy eight mashes the premier wedding and events supplier in the US. 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Police Officer Fired After Allegedly Mishandling Explicit Photos of Slain University of Utah Student

TIME's Top Stories

03:38 min | 4 months ago

Police Officer Fired After Allegedly Mishandling Explicit Photos of Slain University of Utah Student

"Police officer fired after allegedly mishandling explicit photos of Slain University of Utah Student by Madeleine. Carlisle. A police officer in Logan Utah was fired after a state investigation concluded, he mishandled explicit photographs that were used to Extort University of Utah Student, Lauren mcklusky, the Logan Police Department announced Friday an October twenty eighteen twenty, one year old mcklusky told the University of Utah Police. Department that her ex-boyfriend Melvin, Roland was extorting her for money by threatening to release explicit photographs of her. She then sent those photographs to officer Miguel de Ross, the on duty campus police officer according to a report summarizing the Utah Department of Public Safety's investigation into Russia's conduct. A little over a week. Later, mcklusky was shot and killed by Roland who later died from self inflicted gunshot wound. The UDPS investigation began after the Salt Lake Tribune reported back in May that derosa inappropriately downloaded shared and bragged about the photos of mcklusky to his co workers. The Tribune reported that Derosa had saved the photos to his personal phone. However, the investigation did not find evidence that derosa downloaded the images or sent them to anyone other than the detective assigned to the case. The University of Utah's Chief of Police Rodney Chapman said in a statement on Wednesday however as the tribune notes in its coverage, the report says durant had gotten a new phone since mccloskey's killing and the information which was. Recovered may have been the products of backups or partial or incomplete backups from the previous phones he had owned. The UDPS's investigation found that duress showed the photographs of mcklusky to a small number of officers who inappropriately commented on the photos before during or immediately after a shift change briefing Chapman said in a statement I am deeply disturbed by this finding and disappointed in the officers who were present and who did not report this incident through appropriate university channels. The Ross had since left the university's police force and was working for the Logan Police Department and a statement released on Friday. The Logan Police Department said Dara's employment had been ended effective immediately after the UDPS's report concluded, he had mishandled sensitive evidence in the mcklusky case. Our continuing efforts to hold sacred the public trust and our duty to serve and protect has resulted in today's decision. Logan. Chief of police Gary Jensen said in a statement. Chapman also said the University of Utah is pursuing action against individual officers based on the findings in UDPS's report. The Attorney Jeremy Jones released a letter in response to the UDPS's investigation on Wednesday saying this report directly falsifies virtually every aspect of the Tribune's original reporting and roundly corroborates officer to Ross's account of events as released on May. Nineteenth twenty twenty contrary to the prior reporting to Ross did not inappropriately download images to his phone. He did not electrically share them with another officer he is not nor has he ever been a Boogeyman When asked for comment on derosa firing from the Logan Police Department Jones told Time unfortunately, this is what happens when you have somebody get tried in the media. We really perceived the original reporting on this story to have been thoroughly debunk and falsified. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped the public pressure campaign from costing Miguel Ross his job.

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Which Video Editor I'm Using Nowadays? - #004

The Bishnu Mahali Show

01:12 min | 1 year ago

Which Video Editor I'm Using Nowadays? - #004

"Hey guys this is the fourth video recording for the series and in this we do. I am answering or parvinder lumber question which was which reduced utah utah. I'm using right now so in a while i recall i record and edit the videos on my phone. Then i used kind master or kim they muster whatever or whatever it is pronounced and on my laptop i use adobe premiere pro and after effects to be. We do anything that i'm using right now and there are a few more. Are we doing just that. I use sometimes but not all but not all all the time. They're just. They're in my laptop and i use off them. Occasionally which is cyber power so that's one of the aw editor that i use sometimes and also there is one more and that's but i don't use them much so my main redo rita's are it'll be premiere. Pro after effects and guide must've ninety.

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Preview of Haunted Movie Theater in Provo Utah

CopperShock Horror

01:26 min | 3 months ago

Preview of Haunted Movie Theater in Provo Utah

"TASHA WHEELHOUSE here I've been enjoying mixing the upcoming episode Haunted Movie Theater in Provo Utah stick around a clip of the upcoming episode. Passed under the poster that read the omid now playing. I didn't know a lot about it other than I was not allowed to watch it although I tried to stay away from scary films. I. Once accidentally saw the trailer for whatever happened to baby Jane. That was when I was little. The image of the broken dolls face was more than enough to steer me away from horror films after that. Whence. Inside. I. Walked over to the closet by the concession to grab the broom as I swept the floor I heard the swinging of the heavy lobbied door and the shuffle of shoes on cheap carpet. My Big Brother Mark stood there in the lobby looking around he didn't realize it but I saw his nose slightly crinkle. I know what? He was smelling to all buildings like this one smell the certain way. Like they've been breathing a longtime into old age and eventually that breath goes out. The aged would and threadbare carpeting all seem to wreak of it.

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Schooling in a pandemic: homeschool, online and distance learning options and advice from a Utah State Board of Education member Laura Belnap

Mint Arrow Messages

45:18 min | 4 months ago

Schooling in a pandemic: homeschool, online and distance learning options and advice from a Utah State Board of Education member Laura Belnap

"The fooling podcast is a deer, media production distance learning homeschooling online education. Oh, my all of the facebook mangams I belong to are exploding right now with questions and discussion threads with hundreds of comments from other parents panicking about their options for this fall what to do what their options are and how to decide what's best for their children and their schooling this fall today I'm interviewing a dear friend of mine Lara BELKNAP. Who is the most qualified person I know to speak on the subject? Who will be able to break all of this down for us? Parents Laura. Laura Call Your. BELKNAP has her bachelors and Masters in education is a pioneer in home, homeschooling and online education in the State of Utah, where she helped establish online education in two thousand and two, working as the Director of Utah Online academies for three different school districts. She is currently the Director of Utah Online schools, which serves over ten thousand students with one hundred and two teachers and staff. She has served on several different nonprofit boards and received the soccer mom of the nation, award the innovation in education, award and most recently the Jon m Huntsman Award for innovation. She schooled her children at home for more than fourteen years, which changed her life and her relationship with her children. Laura is active in legislative community and religious causes. She's the proud mother of six children and ten beautiful grandchildren, and is married to her high school. Sweetheart Eric Belknap on a personal note. She's been a lifelong mentor to me and to each of my siblings, and has had an enormous impact on each of our lives. She was elected to the Utah State Board of Education in two thousand, fourteen where she serves as the finance chair. Today I have one of my dearest friends I call her. My person and her name is Laura. BELKNAP and I'm just so honored and so thrilled and so thankful she would join today. Say Hi, Laura! Lou, everyone and Laura is absolutely. My mom described her as the og of online learning and Homeschool, and she's just absolutely incredible as you already heard in her introduction so large. Tell us a little bit about you and who you are and what you're all about. I don't know how much is in the introduction, but I do want to tell you that. I have had a variety of educational opportunities. I've taught traditional public. I have made some changes in some traditional public schools that have changed the direction of kids lives for example. We multi aged kids students in our school rather than to keep them all in the same grade. We multi age them by their ability. Groups I've also had the opportunity to homeschool my own children by themselves I've had the opportunity to do what I call. Private schools without a building and that is ask. Do you have these children in my home and my children and other people's homes, and being taught being private school without a building, and also had the opportunity to be the director of an online school for the last fifteen years, which has brought another new piece of insight or another piece to my puzzle in education over the last almost seven years I've served on the Utah State School Board which is also brought another piece of insight. How does it work from a state level versus a district level versus in in your own homes? Amazing and I am so thankful that she's here today. Because so many parents are trying to figure out what to do with their kids this fall in this crazy world that we're living in but I. I WanNa ask you where your passion came from for home, schooling and online, learning and education, and all these things it well, an interesting comment would be in the State of Utah. You're reporting when you're little kids. They ask you what you wanted to be when you grow up us. From the time from kindergarten through sixth grade when they wrote that down, it was always to be a teacher, and so I'm very happy to always be an educator, but it's bigger than that. On the side of being a parent I knew that I wanted to do something with my children. Because I felt like all I, was doing was yelling at them every day. Do this the got that. Make your bed to go to soccer practice. Your piano and I felt like I never had any time with them and. And my husband Eric heard something on the radio about someone homeschooling. And when he told me a little bit about that discussion, it resonated with me and I knew immediately I wanted to homeschool my own shoulder, and as I was doing this, some parents in my neighborhood came to me and said Oh. Will you please home school? Our kids with your kids, and that's how the private schooling without a building came to be, and I ended up schooling with other children, my own children for fourteen years at home. Credible and I am all of my siblings and I were blessed to be part of that. Private school experience under your direction, and it really was such a blessing to each of us in those different periods of life, so I think my brother Steven was in the longest group of yours, but it was a blessing for each of s so. We're in a crisis right now. There's so many parents trying to figure out. Their options are trying to figure out what to do. We just got word today. That governor newsom in state of California has mandated. Schools in California will need to start online. Anyone who's on basically the watch list for high cases and. I feel like anywhere you live. All parents are looking at this coming school year differently than. You know years in the past few seen the meam yet where it's like the same face of the woman three different times where she's going. 'cause it's it's like going to school. Trying to homeschool or online schooling off feels like. Oh, my gosh, so with all of those options where most states doing. Well the plans are very different by by state. Again you sing governor new. Some has already put that mandate out today. Finely face. Some of them are so for example here in the State of Utah It. The mandate has been that kids can go back to school, but they need to wear masks. Is the mandate here and how that's done is is a decision by each district how they're going to keep social distance and how they're going to do masks, but I think as parents we in the term you used was crisis education I think that's exactly where we were last spring is. And our teachers were in crisis as well trying to figure out. How are they going to educate their students that they cared about loved and were concerned about and do it online Jr. when that was not the way they were trained, nor were they prepared for that, so we all live in that crisis moments but I think there's a lot of different opportunities coming around the door, so if we talk about that as being a positive moving forward, it's not happening. What your? Children of started school for the most part, so you have the opportunity to home school, you had the opportunity to maybe do a blended in some schools where they can go to school part time or be online part time you also have the opportunity to do fully online. You also have the opportunity to go in person with the boundaries that maybe were set so maybe we can talk a little bit about those. If that's okay, Korean tasks be super helpful because I think for me, I'm like what's the difference between homeschool online school it. It all feels very overwhelming. And this is something I thought I would never have to think about as a parent I was always like my kids are going to go to school. Where someone else I felt the same way about you know school like traditional school as the as a have always with piano lessons, even though you and I know that I have a lot of credential to be a piano teacher. I'm like I'm not teaching. My own kids 'cause they're gonNA. Look at me and think I. Don't have to listen to you. This. Used to case with with with a either a lot of parents and or children, and so we can. We gotTA remember that we're talking tapes well, so we're talking different levels, especially high school students listening to parents versus a kindergartener first-grader, listening to parents would be very different, so the things we talk about you're GonNa have to measure them and put them in the Measuring Cup. How fit for you by age offense Oh? Those will be something. Stick to keep track them, but if we talk about homeschooling like a traditional home schooler, you would be schooling at home. You would find your own curriculum. You would be absolutely in charge of everything you're learn from from sunup to sundown. That would home school. There are lots of parents who loved school, and who are great homeschooling parents him. That is what they have decided to do and daddy what they do and they are really educate their children. We know that a traditional school in homeschooling there some things that just don't work out well for some GITE, but that would be homeschooling. Then you had what we had in the spring again our crisis learning what I would call it some distance learning I'm where our teachers were trained to. Maybe for younger kids hold. Hold a a day when they'd read to them. Their favourite and everyone would get on at the same time and read the same. The math teacher would in a high school. A middle school would say you need to be on at eight o'clock every morning for one hour for class, so we can do math together, but it made it very difficult for families who were trying to figure out who gets on the computer when we only have one computer and there's all of us, and now even mom and dad are both working. So or mom and dad are both out of the home and have to go to work, and so how do we do it at home? So that that crisis learning really we? We have to look at that, ask. Hopefully. We're going to do a little better this fall. Hey, then you're going to have some blended learning and I think this is where a lot of school districts are going to land when there's opportunity to go back to partially impersonality, because you're going to also need social distance inside of a school, and that means that in a classroom where there's been twenty to thirty students in that classroom, you cannot social distance enough to have that whole class there at once, yeah? Day We'll keep summerbee home while summit. Tan, some will do online while some attendant will be more of a blended type of an education. Okay. And then another one I would want to talk about is online education and fully on line would would come. And really under my hat at this point in my life, but. Fully online education is usually comes from A. School that does online education. It's not coming from your traditional boundaries school. It's coming from fully online school and they have highly qualified teachers who helped you and work with? Do and support you in your work, and it's much more mastery based children rather than being like the teachers in a traditional school have I go in online. Learning is the constant, and time is variable. Okay, Buddy, listen schools. Time is constant and learning is the Barium okay? When School for certain amount of time in during the day and so the learning is during that timeframe. 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You just switch the APP settings from prevent to plan, so that's really helpful for women who are trying to get pregnant, and since you're only fertile for six days of your cycle, it's really nice to have natural cycles to track that, and it's the first and only FDA cleared digital birth control on. On the market, so natural cycles is the natural and effective birth control alternative that you've been searching for so go to natural cycles dot com slash, meant Arrow and use Promo Code meant Arrow to get twenty percent off in annual subscription plus a thermometer. That's natural cycles dot com slash Arrow Promo Code Montero for twenty percent off at an annual subscription and a free thermometer. All users must be eighteen years old and older. Natural cycles does not protect from STD's. and other barrier methods can. So, explain to me if I were my mom, reason kids bountiful Utah, and she had a a kid at bountiful high school, and in Kit Mueller Park Junior, high and one at value. These are all the schools I went to and. So the online learning would be coming from bountiful, high school would become from Davis School district. Would it be coming from somewhere else? For example in school district, they do have an online program. They don't have it. It's not fully vetted at this time. And when I say, I should say fully vested at this time. They don't have every course available for every subject yet. Oh okay. They have parts and pieces, so that's where the blended model is going to come in more so than fully online, and they are working to get the courses ready, but I I still call down a little bit of crisis learning because they're trying to get courses ready, whereas in a fully online school, or in the already out there, they vetted these courses. They are ready to go. The teachers have prepared them so a fully online school is not coming from. This is like a separate thing. It's not coming from your like instead of showing up. For Your classes at bountiful high, it's the distance learning. This is a completely separate thing, just yes. The online an online school is different than what would come from the school, but you're your schools wherever you are in the country could still be offering online education only for your students, and so they don't have to come into the school you make. You might not Wanna come in for several different reasons, it might be a variety of reasons, and we don't need to go into all of those, but they are trying to provide something, and there's a couple of reasons for that which is. Maybe, not exactly what your audience wants today, but the biggest reason is funding yes. Oh, a teacher who is teaching traditional model, and for your schools have now closed down. They thought to provide education from their seat. From where they are to be paid for their job, okay, they have got to pull something together and some of it will be really good. A, really really bad and been from the same teacher right right Get it together in one area, and not the other well. And I saw that with I won't say which daughter, but I saw. One daughter WHO's teacher was super on top of it super involved, and another one of my daughters in you know the crisis learning the as you call it back in the spring was very disconnected, and I could tell she just had a ton going on in her personal life, and so I think that you know it is kind of like. We don't even know which teachers are. Kids are going to get or what's going to happen or whatever from that If it's coming from the district standpoint, but. Going back to the online learning, so say someone really likes the idea. It's really appealing to them. What's the difference between online learning and the homeschool option UK so with homeschool, and honestly I home schooled my kids for fourteen years. So I actually can come from nat setting as well right. So we talked about it. You're really on your own. You're on your own to be the educator. You don't really have someone to call up and say I can't get my eighth grader to do this. Math and I really can't teach it to him. I, you have no to call except yourself I lo-. I need help. Sell, but with online. You have a a highly qualified teacher who you can reach out to. Say, where can I get support win win? Can you meet with my child to help them with this? And they are there to support you and especially in secondary model. They're going to have a teacher for every subject. Okay? What an elementary! You'll have one teacher for your home room. At your students do today. But either way that choose as a parent at this time inadequacies, or whatever might be the reason your little nervous. It sounds like to me. You're going to be in the driver's seat again whether you decide to pick homeschool or whether you decide to big online or you do the distance learning with your school. You're still going to be sitting there with your child. There's not going. Going to be a teacher there, so a couple of things you need to be prepared for. Is that is that your life has to change? Have Child at this time, which is not easy If you're used to having a lunch date every Tuesday with some of your guy, friends or girlfriends. That's not happening because you have children at home. Who Need you to be a educated? Back, some of the beautiful things that can change is what you can teach your children instead. You can teach them how to cook. You can teach them how to make their bad fold laundry sort. Utensils! Wash back doors vacuum the floors. Where right now you might not have time to do that, 'cause you're getting off the school and then after school. You're taking him to piano or soccer or whatever? And those beautiful things, the other thing is one of the things I think about all the time I had my six kids. And of course I waited 'til the baby went to sleep out. That was just a muster. Be Asleep. And they would all gather around me and sit all over me. As we read a book every afternoon together, we couldn't have done that. Had We not been homeschooling shut? There are some real beautiful things that come with. Sacrificed at best this time and something that I just WanNa state. The pandemic is in charge. Yeah on. Your, health departments make the decisions and I realized there's some political ramifications that are me. I should say ramifications but decisions being made because of the endemic. But, the pandemic is driving the changes in education and I. Foresee that some will be great. That will eventually get to where kids can start doing mastery based education and I'll give you an example Korean if you were in high school today, which works so long ago. It wasn't minute ago it. I, wish it was just like five or ten years, but it's gone you. Had to take a course. Of Music appreciation course in highschool. How ridiculous is that for a concert pianist to have to take that course and in this day and age? The you shouldn't. You should be able to master out of that. Get the credit and be able to take other courses, and that's where we're kind of headed in some of the competency based and having time be the variable. You're very interesting. Yeah, I think that's been an appeal for a lot of parents who have already moved in that direction. They've got kids who are excelling in different areas, and they need that flexibility of scheduled to be able to allow them to continue. Continue to excel because a traditional eight to three school system isn't conducive to really honing those talents so for the parent that's listening to this and they feel like wow, that flexibility of schedule and the home score the online learning really I. Think I wanNA. Lean more into the online learning because I would say that. Nine out of ten parents were listening to this are very tech savvy. Want it that extra help. They're gonNA. Want the online backup and teacher to correspond with if they're interested in that. Though what's the cost like to? And is that super cost prohibitive for parents, especially parents who have lots of kids. But in most states, and I can't honestly think of the state And I'm thinking of eighteen states right now that I can't think of one where it's not free for a student to go, because it is part of their public education. Oh, okay, we're are online schools now. Some of our other, still traditional I mean they're public schools that some might be charter schools. Some might be. Presented through corporations, but they're still part of the public education system so dull, awesome need to be vetted carefully by parents, and a couple of things to look at I, would look at their act scores I would look at their graduation rates I would look at course completion rates, so course completion, meaning a student who starts a course. How many of those students really finish of course in an online setting? I Need to watch those and I would look at maybe teacher pupil ratio. Okay, what's a good ratio? If, it's higher than a traditional public school. Then you're in trouble because it takes students longer to pull up information, and if they ever have to print out anything, or if they have to upload their docks, or if they have to do a project, it takes more time than us to do in a traditional classroom. Okay so and then also look to see if they have. Have more than just the teacher supporting the student see if they have another adult who supports that student. If they have a paraprofessional or a mentor somebody now they can do without that. That's always nice piece to have okay, and then so you're saying most schools. You're going to be able to get that covered, and is that like ed? They're going to have just one thing. Like let's say Davis district again for just for an easy example, and I'm supposed to be going to bountiful high, but my mom wants me to do online learning instead. Is the district going to say okay? Here's your one option, or will you have many options mostly? Well. I'm just telling you that. Most of your district's are going to say well this option. Okay. Not New by law can choose what educational platform you want, not just in the State of Utah, but around the country you can say I don't want to attend this boundary school or this boundary district. I want to go to this school which they? They are also part of the public education. Education system now what that means is that the money to run that online school will flow to the online school, and not to the Boundary School for that year. Okay, let's not forever or an Intel you come back. Okay, so is there some type of moral obligation? Some should think about with keeping the school. District's alive if we were to. Tons of parents are pulling their kids out. I think you're going to see that this year. That they're they're preparing for that. When you think of it at being moral, what is best for your child is probably the most important thing you should look at financially. Online schools don't take all of the funding as wealth. I'm certain pieces still go to the school district whether they're educating your child or not. There's taxes local replacing money. There's an transportation money, and all of that will stay with the local district and not go to the online school, so there are pieces that your school district will still get. Okay so! If you wanted to do the pod kind of thing, and you know what we did. What I did, and my siblings did under your direction back in the day Can you do that with this online schooling, or is that only for home, schooling and kind of? How do you set that up? And what does that look like? No you actually can do it with the online schooling, and then it might depend on the age groups that you're doing. If you decide to remember a private school without a building or pod up or group or however you want to say and say I'm going to teach all the third graders at my house, but maybe I'm willing to teach the third graders Matt Okay, and they're go somewhere else for language arts somewhere. Somewhere else for science come and you can do that but I also you know if you're worried about doing impersonation. Maybe it's not you as as parents as much as it is. The state itself worried about kids getting together and spreading the corona virus, so you need to keep track of that at this time. To what is it that you? What safety precautions do you want to put in place for your kids Franken? I again whatever you're doing and there's two things that need to be taught. I say without fail, and that's math and reading. Okay, and and I not for me. That goes through grades K through eight. Those things have to be taught because Mathis Linear and reading. If you can read, you can do any of the other things you can find inc experiments online. You can find music online. You can find all kinds of things outside of an online program, but the online program would have those and should have those for you now. High School we. It's a whole nother Bala Wax agape. Chaffey high schools students have to get credit. So your high school students. If they're taking online, they just need to make sure that number one if they're into sports or into music and they want NCA. Make sure it's NCAA approved okay? And also if you're looking for certain scholarships, make sure that they had the scholarships and that they offer the courses that are going to get you into the universities. You want to go to okay. That's really helpful. Information What about with with these credits counting? Do you have to have an accredited teacher? somehow checking in on you or what you're learning or how does how does that work with this online schooling? Kate well. I can only speak for like my school and the other online schools in the State of Utah they all are accredited, and the teachers are highly qualified in the state, but if they are receiving funding from your state wherever that is, they should be highly qualified teachers, and then they should have those accreditations already. Okay, because to teach in in states, they require you to have certain things as a teacher to receive state funding got it okay. what do you do if you're a apparent like me? Who feels totally inadequate? Thinking about how am I gonNA suddenly become your teacher or become your coach. Or maybe you ought to run around the room and hope for man. It is very different, and and that's when you really need to lean on someone else. There are some parents who are going to end up being at home who are had educational background and they're gonNA feel very comfortable whether they home school, or whether they online school whether they blend school, but then. I said lucky them. I know, but those who don't then you need to pull in all the resources you can find not just finding an. School, but there are resources like in your neighborhoods may be in your churches, people who can give you help and support with things that you are lacking in, but just as a reminder again, math and reading okay. And I always like to call that the potatoes and whatever else you put on, that is the Gravy, and if your family likes to sing, and make sure you do a lot of music, like together and do different pieces of that. If you're not very good at art, that would be me and any. Okay, then we win on that then you would want to make sure that you find somebody who can help you with arch. Unless you're using an online, they would have an art teacher. Okay, would outward available to you to use okay, and what if thank goodness? This isn't the case for us, but what if Neil and I both cannot remember how to do Algebra or pre calc or something awful like that and you've got a parent or two in the house. Who both are like I? Don't remember this in math. Then what do you do? Well there are some resources online at just. Tell me if you're doing online. You're already going to have a teacher, but if you homeschool yourself, you're going to have to find those resources to help support that. You may have to look for some of those supports and you need to look for online supports am as long as your school district is. You know that you're not in school. Now came I. Don't know if I told you this. But one of my very favorite things about online learning or homeschooling or being at home is they opportunities to provide service for your kids do provide service, and you have to find really cool and unique ways to do that. I think we've talked about this before that you can. One thing you can do is to just let your kids express where they express. Their artist or they liked to draw I don't care kindergarten or first grade or at their high schoolers. Let them draw an go. Drop it off on a neighbor's porch. How great is that? They don't from kindergarten or if they're musical, they could knock on someone's door and they could seeing play their musical instrument. Even even we had one of our neighbors took their kids over to the Care Center, and the kids just like to do tumbling, so they did somersaults, and they did cart wills and things, and all of the residents on that side of the building by the time they were done. Tumbling were out there, applauding for them against their windows. and. How cute does that that? We can teach our kids to serve even in this time of pandemic that's so sweet and very very important, because it's so hard I feel like so many of us are losing that sense of community and being in touch with others so I love that idea of serving teaching your kids to serve and getting outside of themselves and I think everybody's kids right now are kind of feeling like they're about to kill each other. So, yeah. Great that's a great way to to be able to get them to think about someone other than themselves, but as far as the social aspects Go, what are your? What's your advice there? Because I feel like that's that's what I'm dreading. This afternoon is sitting my kids down and telling them. They're not going back to school because I know they're going to be. Clear! how Ma or the kids I don't know. It's very difficult so i. think that there's a couple of things that you have to do in these types of settings and any in these issues is that that you not sitting them down, but providing them opportunities to to either share with children, and if you're not in a setting where you can be with children, again, you can socialize with them in interesting ways, so for example I. Some of the kids in a neighborhood put notes inside of a balloon and took it and let their France hop them while they stood there and watch. Miss said I love you or I. I miss you and and trying to make connections and there's also I was trying to think of the other thing that some other kids did. Take connect with other kids at a distance. Oh, they did sidewalk chalk and they've been around on their brands and wrote notes on their sidewalk, and then left a piece of chalk for them to go and write back to them on their sidewalk I love Ya, so but that's non-physical kinds of things because when you can do physical things, field trips are awesome or even going to the park or just. There's so many opportunities like that, but. Every parent's going to be a little different. How much they're going to socialize with other kids at this time right and it depends on where you live, and what the cases are looking like an almost things and. So okay, what should a typical day? What like as far as you know? What's a good schedule or what's a good rhythm to get into to make sure that you can maintain positively in your home? I like your idea, but typical idea. What would children? There's none okay, but not really you actually can have a schedule, but you need to pick your own schedule Cambridge review of teenagers in the House. Don't get him up at seven am, or they're gonNA be grumpy all day. He will so and and you may have a youngster who really likes to sleep in, and they don't WanNa start downtown, so trying get a ballots with your timeframe and their timeframes so timing it. You established a schedule. You host that schedule. I think that's important that they know and younger kids. You can put stickers on when they're finished or. Schoolers I don't know what you do because he can't see anybody. They can't drive and you can't take their keys. So what are you going to do? Anyway set a schedule. Beef flexible with your schedule. But I will tell you a couple of things that if you set your schedule trying not to to vary eight from it if you can help it, okay on Roy be something that comes up it at work or something with some day, or you know emergencies, but really try and stick with it another thing that's kind of exciting. Is that your kids go to school for eight to three now or nine to four You don't have to school that long. I repeat. You don't have to school about long. School that can give you one on three one on four one five and you are teaching them. You have four. Three, two one kids in the home, you can complete tasks a lot faster. You Academia, okay. Not A lot. Because the one teacher isn't trained to teach thirty kids, one thing and walking around making sure they all get it year. There's one of you and just hopefully a couple of them are few of them. You're walking around helping you know, make sure and they may, and you may know your child. Oh I, think she he or she. You're probably GONNA. Understand this fairly fairly quickly. What they're doing. Maybe they already stem understand the concept. You don't need to browbeat them and try and give them something. They don't know that day. You could say wow. That was great. You already know this less galas. Be Done with math further day, okay? To move on and say your, you already know this okay and kind of build their confidence. Yes, okay. and member with highschoolers We're just happy that they'll do one assignment a day in each subject. A really and I don't mean to that rudely. It's just they are used to that pattern. They've been patterned up to hear came. Really get advice. I've then worried about I. Just keep filling this pit in my stomach when I think about kids from. Maybe lower income, families or families, where not even necessarily lower income families where both parents have to leave, and there's not anyone there to supervise the kids just out of necessity that's thought is set up that they have and so there's going to be kids left at home with a chromebook or a tablet, and it's kind of like a black. I feel sick for their. You know these are the kids whose parents would typically count on the school district to basically be childcare, so they can work and now are they going to get behind or how? How should parents in that situation move forward? What's your advice for them? Because it's gotta be a really really tough situation to be in if that's you, your question is, are they? They going to get behind? Yes, they struggle a lot more than those who have a parent at home. Who can't help teach? However, we have found some interesting ways doubt support. These students and one of the ways is making sure that they have if they're going to be online that they have a mentor who checks in with them everyday, not just Asian Lee so that's been helpful. Another thing that we have been able to do is to provide the E. L. L. language for them to help them with their language barriers and do some things with different languages, which has been helpful. We've also tried to work with the employers, which is not our job okay, but help them to work with their employers to try and work different shifts for their parents so I wouldn't be at all now. The parent may be asleep, but at least there's a parent in the home we have used older siblings who are in college can be learning. Learning coach in the home, which is helpful and or grandparents, okay lot grandparents. They're still not the solution for those who have two parents who have to go to work and are going to be gone all day. There is not the solution for that and those babies home alone, and we have babies who are may be neglected or abused and they are. All Day long and we don't have the answer because once again. The pandemic is in charge, yeah. That's it's annoying. So what's the best best case scenario for a parent? WHO's like those? Those are my options, I mean if Neil and I had to work outside of the home right now. We would be in that situation because we don't have any family here. So when can they teach their kids? Or what advice do you have for them? Well. I would first of all see if there's anything that the school district has to offer them, okay. What is it that you can offer me that in this where I can't send my tickets to school? What is there? I do know that some people in some different states are working with childcare facilities to provide for those kids a place to go okay now when I say kids I'm talking up to twelve year, olds. Yeah, that's doesn't cover are thirteen to eighteen year olds. Yeah, we're going to be home alone all day, so there's a few things an online. If at least they have a teacher who touches base with them date. same thing with. If they were with the district, someone would touch base with them, okay. Okay and then what about like? As far as when they're doing. If you're walking out the door thinking I, hope you actually do work Is there a time that you feel like as better for kids to be connecting with their parents if they're in that situation? If they're in just in that situation, I think that's probably all of the situations double checking to make sure your kids are doing their work and I would check to make sure that whatever program whether you're homeschooling blended distance or online that you have a way that you can see what your child has done that day. And one of the things interesting about online. Is that not only can kids go online, but you can see how long they were active so just. Logs in in the morning. Doesn't mean A. To me personally as a as a director that they have done anything, so parents can get feedback. What did they accomplish today? Okay, Oh and by the way this triggering a memory to for me of the crisis learning when we would log into the distance learning in there were all these different loggins and one of the things that appeals to me with some type of online learning. Thing is I. would think there's just one log in right. Is that how that works? One log in per child and one let's. Say you're not willing to different platforms. You know it's interesting, because we don't use just one curriculum or created curriculum or purchase curriculum take. It's one log in. You go here and if it clicks you out, it takes you there, but you only log in one time. That's nice it. Shoot you out rather than you try to shoot in. Okay. Yeah, that's very appealing. That was one of the biggest. Complaints we had from family. Is the log ins and all the things you're? Trying to learn all those platforms. Yeah, that would be really helpful for us as a family, so imagine everybody else's searching for options like that, so no matter what you choose or what your state chooses for you or what pandemic chooses for all of us what? What's your advice on making the best of these situations? Oh my word making. Lemonade out of Lemons I guess I'm because this is kind of a sour time us in in our country and in the world. And if we can find some joy each day you know our children bring us joy every day, and yet sometimes it brings heartache as well so if we can find something and go oh, my word that brings me joy. To, to look for that I think that and and just know it's going to be hard. Yeah, so if I could say something to you maybe if you want to scream screaming, Appello so you don't scare somebody. And it occasionally, you might have the lock yourself in the bathroom. And even the little fingers come under the door and ask what you're doing. Just do it anyway. Take time to breathe as a as a parent. Who's WHO's dealing with this? Because if it's abby, it becomes very heavy on your heart, and your at Okay I have a question that I that. That I forgot to ask earlier, but I think it's important if you choose online learning, are you kind of stuck or are you in that choice for the rest of the year, or if the pandemic were to subside, and your your kids? Friends are going back to school. Would you be able to switch like halfway through the year? What does that look like? I think that's going to depend on the state year in Okay lated Utah you can move back and forth between the new I don't know about California. Korean asylum. Sorry, but I think you need to check with your with your state, but I can't imagine that at least at semester. You couldn't come back. one of the issues is just for clarity. Is I brought this up several times that it's about funding and funding usually happens in the fall for example, the State of Utah Schools are funded. October one, and so this is back to a school. Will on a November one. That school receives no funding for that student for that year. Gotcha K.. So then they're trained to cover a bunch of kids that weren't accounted for. Yes, that's hard. It's hard. It's hard districts. It's hard for our charters to do that. Yeah, that makes sense. While I feel like you've given us a lot of really helpful knowledge information and a lot of really great encouraging advice to I have one last question for you. And that is if there's one message that you want the parent listening to this to remember from this episode. What do you ought that one message to? This is very easy for me to answer that do it okay, and especially. If we're about one year, we can do it okay, and so I would I would say that. Okay. Laura, you are such a gift to me and everyone who knows you. Thank you so much for taking the time for this and for I. it helped me a ton. I know it's can help every parent who listens to the. Rim, thank you for having me on. I appreciate it so much. You are so wonderful. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening to Mitt Air messages make sure you follow us on Instagram at Mint Aero, subscribe to our apple podcasts and rate and review us if he like us and to get show notes go to Arrow dot com slash podcast, and you can even sign up to get shown outs. Emailed here in box and will email you every time. There's a new episode.

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Mouthwashes And Nasal Sprays (MM #3501)

The Mason Minute

01:00 min | Last month

Mouthwashes And Nasal Sprays (MM #3501)

"The Maisonette with Kevin Nation like many people I spend a lot of time reading news about covid-19 on the internet looking for the highs the lows the UPS power all the truth in the false news. And the one thing I'm seeing lately a lot of universities are doing studies on mouthwashes and nasal sprays and how effective they can be at helping combat the coronavirus they don't make it going away, but they can possibly knock the coronavirus out. If you come in contact with it have a buddy who works PR for one of these nasal spray companies and I know somewhere I think is the University of Utah are Utah State doing research on a nasal spray called ex Slayer which can he come back covid-19 as well now news coming out of Pennsylvania doing research on antiseptics and mouthwashes that can fight coronavirus Listerine Crest pro-health and equate antiseptic mouthwash plus CBS and except with wash all highly effective had in activating infectious virus has like the coronavirus up to 99.9% within minutes upon contact right now anything that helps us all get back to normal quicker. I think we better for all of us wouldn't wage.

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Feds May Open Utah National Monuments For Mining And Drilling

Environment: NPR

01:55 min | 10 months ago

Feds May Open Utah National Monuments For Mining And Drilling

"In southern Utah. The trump administration's finalized. Its plan to remove protections from bears ears and other land designated as national monuments. The announcement comes despite an ongoing legal legal challenge by native American Tribes Tribes Argue. The White House acted illegally by dramatically shrinking stabbed boundaries. NPR's Kirk Siegler. has this update. It's been more than two years. Since president trump flew to salt lake city and signed an order that became the largest reversal of national monument protections in US history located in price Utah Canyon country the Clinton Era Grand Staircase Escalante. National Monument was cut nearly in half and bears years designated by President. Obama among went from one point three million acres to about two hundred thousand. The monuments were opposed by. Utah's influential rural Republican. County commissioners who worried read the added protections would stifle ranching and mining these new management plans restore balance. Says Casey Hammond. He's an acting assistant secretary at the department amount of interior. With these decisions. We are advancing our goal to restore trust and be a good neighbor. Many native American tribes who pushed for protections at bears ears in particular. You're seeing differently. We find that this is an ongoing failure to meaningfully consult with tribes owner. Keeler with the group Utah the neighbor Kia says protections are now going away for land full of sacred artifacts Barrio sites and other cultural resources seems to be an indicator. The treatment of indigenous peoples in the United States the president's authority to Shrink National Monuments. The act remains in dispute. The Nineteen O. Six Law says has presidents can designate monuments but legal experts have widely held that only congress has the power to abolish or downsize them tribes and conservationists say these management plans should be on hold until the courts. Way in Kirk Siegler N._p._R. News.

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Virginia Values Act, Utah County, Utah & the Lethality Assessment Program

Throwing Shade

54:18 min | 8 months ago

Virginia Values Act, Utah County, Utah & the Lethality Assessment Program

"Mindell hey are you self isolating no just living in my apartment by myself and Macondo. Well I live with. Yes my bunnies. Yes my turtles yes coney yes county. Oh God it's not good. She's been making candles like crazy and she ended up burning my kitchen down so at the terrible smell for me but you know how they say. A kitchen with ashes only leads to fabulous desserts. You know I have never heard that before you know what? Turn your idea into reality squarespace. Scarcely six it easier than ever to lunch passion project. My Passion Project Burnt Kitchens. Whether you're showcasing your worker selling products of any kind online beautiful templates debility to customize just about anything make a beautiful website your seal F-. I'm I'm learning accents my British. And if you do get stuck squarespace twenty four seven award winning. Customer support. Is there to help you? That's my Dutch. Had squarespace dot com slash shape for a free trial when you're ready to launch the offer code shade to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website or Deh mine high homosexual Bryan Safi and feminazi Aaron Gibson and this is throwing shade women's issues? Lgbt issues pop culture. You've gotTa have friends and from a distance. Did you ever know that this is a cast? That's my Bendler I'm partial Hershey. And this situation yeah. Can you handle it? Why if nobody's singing that song as Corona virus as the Rona Bonus Rona Soundtrack? Row down the river. I don't know but I'm GonNa bury musical mission today. Everything is inspired. You know what I love about this Erin. Everything is inspiring. I see a picture frame on my wall and I think I should be framing. Things should be getting into woodwork. I see a printer. I think I should be getting into. It work you know what I mean like. Everything is sparking something for me now. Sparking some sort of joy or or like Second career exact computer career lamp career would career. Yes yes. You're not doing a fork or a knife career you know I tried to break into the for connive career industry for a very hard. It's cuts throws. I share a deal. Yeah it is a spiky proposition to get in there. Listen there's there's four forks in the road which and I took the one and I took the yes. I took this one. That was salad. Yeah and I think that's a metaphor for what's happening. I can't think of a more clear one. Have you taken any. Have you done any all of them? Have you done any weeding like in other words like have you realized things about yourself or others that you're like? I don't know that I'm GonNa do that anymore. Yeah because imagine this like just close your eyes and imagine this for a second. Not only are you in quarantine with your spouse your in quarantine with your spouse his mother and your father you have that his honestly that as hell. I really do have so much sympathy for you. Last night I was like here are things that I do that. I now realize are my father's personality traits that I have inherently that are my base level when I'm not even if I'm locked in. Okay I'm locked in and thinking about what I'm doing. I can be a really good person but my eyes level but my base level existence is a real fucked up. I think mine is jail. Can you imagine being around? Your parents makes you more like them unless you are putting so much energy into into being like we are different people. I don't have to act like that. I don't have put labels on everything. It's not necessary. I know but Erin by me. Literally putting leap. I mean my dad. The old dog. Don't give up those bounds. They don't so a truly. It's like it's like working a miracle to be around. Of course people you love but but people who are not going to change for Shit so really all of the patients and change has to come from you and who can do that all the time. It's impossible you can do that like once a year visit. That's about as I have a list going of things. I Never WanNa be doing it again doing again. It's too long. So why don't you go into the things that you've learned because really truly by would take an entire hour? I've learned both honestly. I learned a very small thing earlier. A judge's stuff that like did didn't make me happy. I was talking to my psychiatrist Monday and a resume. You go sit on him now but I was you know I told him I was just like I truly truly inexcusable. I saw I saw like I did forget the appointment. But then when he called I remember deployment and ago. I saw that you called and I thought like who can do it. Not Me and he was like okay. Well next time just you know even pick up the phone and Sam so sorry. I can't do it today and I was like yeah. I will right so always Not that forgiven. Always forgiven But we may. I made a list of one of the things I realized because he was start. Small one of the things I realized that makes. How is that possible? It works somehow because one of the things. I realized that like I do that. I really detest that I. It doesn't feel good for me to do it and it feels not genuine for me you to do it I did. It feels like animalistic know something that feels no. There's something that feels like weirdly. I don't know pressure or like pressure for me to seem nice over email. I'm done with exclamation points. It doesn't feel good when I do them. It feels disingenuous and it feels like I'm trying to prove that I'm a nice person when like I know I am so I'm done with it. It was like a small but I was like them. Days are over so today's day one of nineties. Love something What do you love something if you truly located? I guess I would use it lake but I feel like so many of my emails are like hey blank exclamation point like how's it going back? Can't wait to hear what you think exclamation exclamation way. It's just like no. I mean if I love something it'll be like. Oh this is great but then I still could just use a period right now. I'm going so what do you do? Question Marks Requests Marks. I love it question mark. Hi but it's one tiny thing that I was like. I don't love this tiny thing that I do. It actually makes me feel bad so I'm not gonna it's so much more effort to God. I know it's like I hope I seem nice. I don't give a shit. I know I'm being nice. You know one thing that I I really Talking about small email Steph. When I get emails from people that are just like them talking things through and I don't know what they're saying. I think that I think that the normal thing in Hollywood is just be like okay. I will interpret this through some sort of magical lens that I don't currently have an I will figure out what you're trying to say and so I just basically have been with base with everyone I've been like I need clear notes. I need this. Email is not clear to me. So if there's any way you could just distill it down to what you need is so happy to put it into play for you. Sue from me with different experts. Hard Hollywood from me. It's about easy. Limos two premiers you know going to the new Speaking of picked up for another season we did. And I'm among got picked up that's fine berry excite you do you have any Are you GONNA be the same character you coming back as your evil twin coming back as the evil twin so I smoke and I were a tons of shadow Ratan? Her lip liner lipstick. Red Hair red hair constantly in a trenchcoat with nothing on underneath. Because I'm everyone I see and so. Yeah it's GonNa be grace it's GONNA. I'm very excited for this turn. Yeah it's going to be nice But that's sort of that's my Hollywood. Yeah yeah yeah premiers Limos and when you go to the prior Limos Donna White Limo with the with the hot tub in the back. No no no. I'm very old Hollywood. I'm like I'm like sort of like a Denise Richards you know like I do the White Limo and just basic you know. I don't like to draw attention to myself. Yeah you're like a person who clearly cut country trash-talk who came to Hollywood and then just became rich but it's still exactly who they are hence the White Limo thank you. I don't understand so it takes a while for my brain to get around things. Are you not taking? Limos there in Santa Fe well yes I saw. I saw the need for Limo drivers right now. And so I'm not actually in the limos. So I'm descending the limo to the CO OP to sprouts to finish shows and they're delivering its INSTA- Limo. Basically that's what it's called. It's called INSTA- Limo and hopefully someone's written on the side of the Limo Aaron. I'm not in the limo but I just need. Everyone's still take them everywhere and I wanted the limo drivers like I didn't what I want them to feel normal like I want them to feel like everything is is normal. That can be so what I have done is. They put lipstick and sequined gowns on all my grocery bags and then I had to sprinkle cocaine on the carpet and then also like they'll take a champagne bottle and like you know. Shake it up the pop the cork out of the sunroof and you so already have the The eyelashes drawn on the headlights of dilemma. Right and blips in front. Yeah Yeah Infra. It's like what lift used to do but mustache. It's I it's it's false lashes and lips basically looks like miss piggy if miss piggy was alot honestly miss piggy. I have talked so much about Miss. Piggy brilliant to know. Why just in my head lately? Is there anything better than Miss? Piggy in this world but see. Here's the thing I the best. I wished miss piggy would take her like hi. Ya in her power. Her Power Moves. And you frog yeah like grow. You don't need him. I know she doesn't she really doesn't she like went. Barbie got to be an astronaut boogie. You don't need Ken your paycheck now. Exactly I'm with you there. I think piggy needs to let let go and let God with with with Carney but I do love her in a trench coat and sunglasses getting to the bottom of something. That's my favorite piggy of all. And you know she's not afraid to show her assets by that. I mean her pig boobs. Yeah in a way that doesn't diminish her power. Does she owns it. All yes she. She owns ashes like Dolly Parton. She what she's based off. Because you always hardens not doesn't do karate. I would be curious to know who knows I would be. Who knows what happens with our would be curious to know if miss piggy was like based on a famous person or if it was just an amalgamation of a bunch of different people yet because what is current. They're Frog Kris Kristofferson. Yes Yup he sure is he actually reminds me. I'm watching truly the show in the world right now. Called marrying millions a awful. It's on Hulu. It's such trash it is. It is so budget below. Love is blind and all these shows the pretend to be classy. Does it feel bad for the world. It sort of I don't know about for the world certainly for everyone involved in this show because like so far. I've only seen one episode so far but everyone is so truly horrifying except for one person And she's seems cool. I don't know what happens later. it's IT'S. I mean it is a basket of deplorables up at that way. It's bad what's the worst thing about? The worst person will the worst thing. Is that all the millionaires. Look like when pee wee Herman D did that When Paul Reubens I guess it was on thirty rock and played that Prince Well. You know you all like that. They're all just. They looked so fucked up but because they have their inbred F- well he was politics. But that's a no. I'll tell you my husband knows because he because of his uncle and all that Sh- that fucking side of the family who were like you know. Radicek bloodline clean. Yes but I mean. They were whatever they all wanted to fuck aristocracy and stuff was really hard to get in if you were an outsider. Because they truly will marry second cousins. It's tough to keep that bloodline pure and literally think it makes the bloodline picture. Instead of the most fucked people come out of that you can ever imagine who also have all the power so your whole instead. Just having a Lantern Jaw. You have like a lantern head. Google the Habsburgs Chen they are dead. Habsburg our medical miracles they were all inbred. They basically ran Europe for decades and decades decades. They were the premier like royal family and they also ran like the they had a king of Spain. A queen of France like they were all. From the Hab Marie Antoinette was a Habsburg and they know about it because there was a guy on What was that? Patty show that she is to put people together. Oh I remember. Patti Smith Indie rocker from the seventies used to put together millionaires and have a millionaire matchmaker. Yes dangam or something Yes yes different than Patti Smith but not by much. No both Burnett's both were a ton of makeup. Yeah both married. Gay Iconic Photographers. That's right. No that stagger had this guy on who was like a German count which is the the he is the influence for the German thing that all and I do which I do on the show sometimes head dude just hanging on four man. He has the Habsburg jaw horrifying and he was on this show and it was and that's how I found out about half bird. Jaw doesn't even my new band. We'd be only singer. Bette Midler medleys do use. The what's called the jaw jaw. Harp dislike put as many confusing. What are your? What's what's that. Hit that you that charted for you for your band original hit that we did. Yeah Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. Some people have jaw some dogs have paw paw but me. I got a job Some people in a car rag need the light from the jaw. I'm not in a car wreck. I swam which Well let's talk about it. Let's talk about it virgin. Yeah Okay Oh Jinya. By the way I had in my shoe I was going to say. Congratulations to them during it up. Yeah congratulations to Virginia. Which is now the first southern state that has comprehensive discrimination protections for lgbt plus people. It's the very first southern state to do it The Governor Ralph Northam Sinus into law. I guess it was Saturday or something. I think it was Saturday when he no one notice it was Saturday. Sneak it inside it onto the darkness of Saturday exactly so this legislation. We talk about all the time that there aren't federal protections for this but essentially. You can't be fired for being gay. You can't lose your housing for being lgbt plus and It prohibits discrimination on the basis. And this is for all. This is the full language race. Color religion national origin sex pregnancy childbirth related material medical conditions age marital status disability and status as a veteran and also lgbt plus people so it's a very exciting thing for for southern to do this now. Obviously this is. The Most Virginia is one of the few states that is blue top down locally blue and the governor taps or bought the tops and bottoms are blue. Is that what you're saying exactly exactly and And it's I duNNo. It's eight eight listened. Virginia is a state in the past few national elections. That has gone blue. They voted for Obama. They voted for Hillary But it does send a strong message that the oldest Commonwealth in the country. I you know it's on the right side of history exactly that the first settlement. Jamestown really wanted this to happen. I think this is what they really wanted to rename it. James Brown town. They young or an amusement park where it's half. Jamestown half James Brown James Brown. James Downside is my question. What kind of rights? But those be just like seeing a witch and dying of something just getting on and off of a boat. Yeah Okay so like I said before. Lgbt plus people can no longer fear being fired a victim or denies denied service in public places because of who they are. It's a huge deal and wounded. Most of the country has not caught up with also last week. The Governor Governor North signed a bill that outlawed conversion therapy for anyone under eighteen. So that makes made Virginia the twentieth state to do so the twentieth. Us state to do so so basically you could still be forced to do conversion therapy but the idea is that you have to be an adult and want to go you have to. No one can commit you into one okay. So in other words like it's it's you can't abuse children exactly and I didn't know this but northern was in his personal life a pediatric neurologist. So his business was kids so I think like if anyone knows what they're talking about is does it. Pediatric neurologist probably has the science to back got being like this doesn't work in his also unbelievably abusive and leads to many problems. Down the road. Any issued a strong statement about saying conversion therapy is not only based in junk science. It's dangerous and causes lasting harm to our youth. No one should be made to feel wrong for who they are especially not a child and I'm proud to sign this ban until now. This is Ralph northern perfect. Certainly not but this is a step in the right direction and like and it's a good model for like what you know you go for Gin. You go all the way down to Florida of what could be what what could what could be in states like these or you go to. West Virginia or Ohio. Even Virginia Virginia. I'd be mad. I'd be like West Virginia. Change Your fucking name. Yeah we don't want you're not a derivative of what we're doing over here. Yeah you should be East Virginia okay. Russia block in worse news honey. Franklin Graham just isn't stopping with these tents he loves these hospital tents we have to sign that waiver saying I believe marriage is between a man and a woman to go and save lives like nurses and personnel like that who are in the business who are essential workers for this healthcare workers to in order to even go into these tent camp hospital. Who's working in these tents? People who sign the waiver. I guess know WHO's working in their jellicoe nurses. No I think I think some people are just like I think honestly some people were like we want to help people I guess yeah will sign this like whatever but some people are like. Were absolutely not doing this. This is this compromises all my morals and values on that note. I want to say that it is difficult for me like I watched. Pbs Newshour. Every night. I would go in New York. Times three or four times a day before this. I haven't been watching. Pbs Newshour. But I have been watching because it seems like the right dose is sixty minutes which is on the top of its game right now so suggest that anyone who wants at one hour of incredible investigative journalism every week to tune into sixty minutes there one on p. p. e. this week Which I think could find online. It was the first segment of the hour is unbelievably brilliant and also catches the the basically the guy who is the architect for trump's plan with the pandemic catches him like on camera in an enormous lie Which is fascinating. They're just the best over there. So if you like to hear a fucked up thing about P. P. Yeah So someone that my that all. I went to high school with so you know he went to show. Is this the guy who who I who I had a night with? Not In a sexy way but just now I know that. Mass snow another mass. Some asshole who working like a venture capital firm or something has ninety eight billion masks. Yeah and is hoarding them. Sell them to the highest bidder. Will the God is being allowed right? Now you're talking about people who are doing that and that yes and they talk about that and also they talk about how You know everyone knows this but like the we are the richest country in the world to has handled this in the worst way and healthcare workers in Princeton South Korea and other countries. Not One has become infected because they have has met suits. They were showing yesterday what they're being given and some of them were literally being given a New York Yankees raincoats for protective gear and our force. Us Ninety five masks five times which does at one time And that it's an at other. And because of the new trade deals other countries including Australia can't export their masks to us. Because of how this absorbent it's it's just so horrifying and its allies in their hands but Franklin Graham who His charity by the way. I don't know how I never knew. This is called Samaritans purse which I refuse to let a purse be disrespected like that at some bullshit purses or symbols of strength and of the luggage that women everywhere have to carry every day. So don't talk about Samaritans Burma's Franklin Graham Muster carrying a purse. That's all I that's all I can say. He can't Samaritans coin. Plastic Coin Thing. What is it? What are those things? That you switch got changed holder. Whatever those are called Yash purse? Does it called purses those are not purses I call him Coin Lips Jack. That's better corn holes coin holes Samaritan cornhole Koito so hearts McCall Samaritan who coined this Samaritans whole Franklin Graham good. I'll tell you this I he does not I was GonNa say I wish I could see him walking into a room I I? He doesn't even deserve that strength. Fuck him so anyway. He has been accused over and over again. Even before this pandemic of exploiting disasters to push his evangelical you know agenda. Yeah and He is tried to set up more places in a like. There was an episcopal church in New York. He was going to set this up within the episcopal. Church was like now. We're good guys like we're we. We have one none of what you're selling and we'll set up something ourselves bet and I think they even said like you. You're welcome to set this up if you take this language out about how whatever healthcare workers going to be in here has to believe in marriage between a man and a woman like it's not happening So we all know how completely homophobic and anti everything Franklin Graham is a website before. He's he blamed gay people for A. What's he's calling a moral nine eleven? Which is this And again this is not even Pat Robertson fringe guy. This is the guy who is for them really for the masses and his father certainly was he. Also I guess his said that it is very important for his doctors and nurses and staff to say they're Christians and to say that they're doing this in Jesus's name and he said of course I believe marriage is between a man and a woman that's part of who we are so we have a long list of things we want people to understand and agree with before we take them to work with us but really it's not to work with you. It's to help people out who are dying and he said. I don't want a person who is going to be on the job and drinks okay. I don't blame you there. You should be drunk and going in and doing this. And he said that's not a good witness someone who comes in on the job and drinks. I don't want a person who's going to be using drugs to be part of our team couldn't agree more dude couldn't agree more. I would homosexual ex exactly. You can't compare those things and then he says which Aaron. Listen this is the only thing I'm on board with when it comes to Franklin Graham. I don't want someone who's GonNa be swearing as part of our team. I think that's wonderful. I think every all doctors now are fuck. Fuck you fuck you fuck you. That's what they say when they walk by go to Hell. Fuck you Shit Mama Fuck? I'm not into that. Didn't know what I mean. I think if you have someone flat lining in front of you. That's the last moment that person. Here's they don't WanNa hear you freaking out and saying the F. Word so you need to be fired immediately. The last time I went to the doctor he looked at my face and I said Oh. Hey how are you gonNA goes? I'm fine seaward. B Word Edward D. Word other F- word. He said that to my face. Let the other F word fat fat. I know that one was the first visit. What's the first one I Aaron? You really putting me in a bad bet. Fuck fuck and and the Aaron. What is my. What is the only rule I've had since I was a child? Don't curse on throwing shade. Even before this started that was my run one world no swearing so he went on to say we screen the people that worked with us. We want men and women helping us to believe the way we do and have the same core values that we APP okay. Your core values should be to help people who are sick. That should be your core value and you should not make people sign a religious release to help them and in fact other churches balk at this like I said before the episcopal church is like what the fuck are you doing Or at least a specific one so this is why I don't think churches should have like free reign as far as like how they're regulated by the government. I mean not the government anything but I do think if you are religious organization at your preaching hate or you're discriminating Ebay repent you gotta Pay Taxes Now. Because guess what now. You're just a business. You know your private business. Yeah Your Business. And your your. I don't understand why they are exempt from These laws and these registered pickle right regulations. It's like fuck off. Yeah well I don't know what to do. I I got A and we should probably because I have a lot of autographs to sign for what my next limo ride. No one ever asked for them. I just throw them out the window. right on the street. Oh good to give people you know all the people on the streets right. Now you're right I should rethink. I'll rethink yet. See how easy it is to change. Someone's mind you just change mine. It's that easy sculptor trump supporter of could do it. We take the bad we take the bad we take the vagner. We have corentin life boards that I loved it. Okay do it as mentioned because not only did Governor Ralph Northam sign the the thing you were talking about called? The Virginia Values Act he also signed the reproductive health protection. Act which also just want to say it's fucking ask that he didn't say that and you're right it's fucking bad ass that he called it. The Virginia Values Act. Because that word is so misused bastardized by the right that like is just awesome but he took that word back. It's values I agree. He said about the Virginia Values Act. Which is the protections you're talking about that sends a strong clear message. Virginia is a place where all people are. Welcome to live work. Visit and raise a family fabulous. Honey that's real Christianity. He asked me. I'm with you. Nobody asked me but okay. So he also signed the Reproductive Health Protection Act which erased decades of Shitty anti-choice restrictions like waiting periods required. Ultrasounds trap. Laws. He was just like by WIG. Now welcome here anymore. Wig Thank God he said this I mean I I. Don't I know you mentioned earlier? That maybe not. Maybe he's not like the best but I love that. He said this he said no more. We're legislatures in Richmond. Most of whom are men. Be telling women what they should and should not be doing with their bodies honey. He's not having any of it. No Book Nine Thousand Nine Hundred Seventy Four. Do you know what I mean but yes it's grace no. I know. It's like the fact that we have to have these first of all. It does speak to the idea that we do need straight white men in positions of power to say this is fucked up. Because when they don't speak up it takes US twice as long to get this shit erased and so. I'm glad it's happening but no me way too but you know what here's the other thing like. I have a lot of people who are like. Oh I you know. I wasn't really political until this happened. It's like why are we doing as a country that people are not? They don't care about politics because it wash mountain that's what they're doing. They're all going to splash mountain and they think it's so fine and you know what happens at the end of that you get wet and you liked it. That's what this country is. Not only did you get wet. You got wet by LIKE MOSQUITO BREEDING. Rancid still water with questionable characters greeting you. I'm telling you you want to know what's wrong with the country splash. Go Talk. You talk you. Go Talk to the waves of the mountain house. The fucking second draft on that. Be Honest with you. I've actually never been on it. I think I described it right. Fucking bowl you get on a second log and you go up fucking mountain splashdown yeah. That's progress deal me. And I also talk about Miss England who took off her crown and put on her stethoscope last week. The HASHA Mukherjee who was who won Miss World pageant. In December had a hard time squaring. Her duties doing unitarian work for the crown and by the crown. I mean the crown right on her head so she couldn't choose very guilt ridden by the fact that her colleagues were back back in England saving. Lives so she said. Put Me Back in the game coach. Or why whatever they say in. English like they'd be like she was like please. May I you do cat all? Give me my position back. If you haven't nothing. What solve this that. I think that that first of all. It's an efficient way to talk. And they do always nail that and second of all spot on it's a it's a short sentence. Yes that is that is just mired in questions and low self esteem policies. And you're not apologizing with every statement you're doing your own country wrong correct okay. So we're to talk about the bad and I WANNA talk about Utah and I think people might think what we pick on Utah but Utah deserves every fucking bit of the shit that we give it so I would say you know you tell deserves it because Utah acts acts of fool. Yes so you talked about Brigham Young University I think for two full episodes and I wanNA talk about the big problem that Utah County is having now Utah. County is the county that Salt Lake City is in and so talk about couldn't be bothered to do that is different. I have ever heard life Utah. County Utah Yeah. That's insane Texas County. Texas is that how does that no but I mean it could be. I don't know I don't know but it doesn't matter yes or no. It's absolutely ridiculous. California County California. Yeah honestly that's like my two year old needs to be like wow up. Your game couldn't be bothered. So they're county commissioner Nathan I e You last week I e wintermute that he tweeted last week that at their Utah. County nine one one dispatch that they've had a seventy five increase in domestic violence calls and because of the Cova crisis and he is considering this as a function of public health and that they are so that's good that he is considering that as part of the things that they need to deal with but he called the uptick quote. Not Good News. I think there's let me help Nathan out. Whatever he's not wrong but he's how about here's some other words. You could use horrific news. Abort news appalling nightmarish vile a crisis for women and children. Not Something we will tolerate. Or how about this evil? His I think that word when used in and for the most Religious County in America which Utah County is is something that will shed sent shockwaves to these Ding Ding Ding dongs. Yes because it is evil to terrorize your fucking family. During during of quarantines it's able to do it period I wish and I know they probably don't have the resources with the pandemic but I I wish that there was an organization or something that was doing house calls. I don't know like if saw I'll I'll talk about some things that are talking about. Look here's the thing. Domestic violence is a is a situation that is not taken as seriously as it could be. And I'll talk to you about some steps that I think that police officers should be taking. There is a there is a An assessment it's eleven questions that police officers can ask and only ten percent of the police are police force. Do this during domestic violence calls. And so what happens is if you're not trained to recognize that this could escalate very quickly. You then put that family and you put the women and the children in the family and whoever else is involved there might be parents involved. You put them all at risk. Because you're not taking this very serious and I mean this is overstating. Maybe you're becoming accomplished to us. You absolutely do okay. So this is Also domestic violence calls are some of the most the scariest police officers respond to because they are so fucking volatile and violent which is why we need de-escalation tactics. In in in policing to to to not put people these these these abusers back into the situation because the adjust escalates over and over again they see they can get away with it. They go further the I should mention last week. A twenty four year old black female officer in Indianapolis named Brian Leith was shot in the head knocking on the door to a domestic violence call. She didn't even get in the house. He shot her through the fucking door and then he shot the woman involved in it. She's lived but as is in critical condition. So you're so like truly it is in the in the it's in the best interest of the people who are being abused for these tactics to be put into place and it is in the interest of police force police force to be practice things because nobody wants to be dealing with these situations and nobody should so this woman Jacquelyn Campbell. Who's who runs the Who came up with this thing called the legality assessment program. Here's the eleven questions that she came up with. That police officers distinguish whether or not this is going to escalate and I have to say like. I can't imagine a call from a neighbor saying my neighbors screaming at his wife. Where A WON'T DEESCALATE? But this this is used in ten percent of officer interventions. It's should be used in one hundred percent but so it is automatically flagged as a high risk situation which is where the the abuser is taken into custody and like does it matter what the woman is. You have to ask pointed questions. Basically so they are have they. The alleged abuser ever used a weapon against you or threatened to use a weapon. Have they threatened to kill you or your children? Do you think they might try to kill you? The fact that these are being asked is crazy to me so if they answer any of those yes automatically. This escalation of charges is goes up if they answer to four of these yesterday for these. Then it's flagged as high risk. Do they the abuser? Have a gun or can they easily get one. Have they ever tried to choke you? Are they violently or constantly jealous? Or do they control most of your daily activities. Have you left them or separated after living together or being married is the abuser. Unemployed has the abuser. Ever tried to kill themselves or threaten to. Do you have a child that they know is not there? Do they follow or spy on you or leave threatening messages? Wow Oh God being an azure. Yes to one of these is horrified but you but I mean like women. Don't call nine one one. Everything's okay or that is going to be okay good. They're terrified if you are if you're in the situation and he's in the other room any years you say any of those things that's that's a different scenario then if someone's asking you something and you can silently nod your head. Yes totally that makes a totally different situation at someone looking out for you and taking care of you while knowing that is not safe for you to say these things just so many. I mean it happens all the time that in dire circumstances people really don't want to say anything more than yes or no because they're scared of what's yeah like you said what's in the next room or in the same room or whatever or what or if he comes back like if he does go to jail and he gets out what happens. When he comes fucking comes back drug dealers do not need to be in prison. Abusers do yeah okay. Let me tell you this this is. This is something that I I came across when I was doing research for this these book of Mormon Thumpers who were terrorizing their wives and families in the most religious county in the United States I didn't know this but tell me if you know this about the LDS and their version of Adam and eve have you ever heard this version. So I mean Adam and eve theory is trash because like the only thing. Believable about it is that a woman could build herself up using a discarded rib trash of a man like that she could create something so wonderful and complex could literally nothing. The only thing that's believable about it but okay so I wanted to show this so Any LDS version of Adam and Eve Adam and Eve after they left Eden went to live in Jackson. County Missouri. I now here's what's going to be even more upsetting. Do you know who was going to say. I am jealous but go ahead. Do you know what county Branson then Jackson No Tanzi. Wouldn't it have been made so much sense? I'll pilgrimage to Tanzi county any day of the week to go to Branson why not. I want to say wait. Eve took the apple because she was bored. You know what I mean. It was like an exciting offer. She's probably just bored. And Stoke Visentin. So yes. Go ahead. Sorry it'd meteorologist boring that he that you're like I'll take an apple. I think apple's are the most boring fruit in the world and by the way. If you'RE BORED YOU GO TO BRANSON OKAY WHY DIMENSION. They have cancelled all of their shows. Due to cove nineteen so no more super show sixty super super show that no more no more Jimmy Fortune. No More Oak Ridge boys who by the way guys under seventies argue the Oak Ridge men by now. Yeah listen okay. But the Titanic. Museum is doing virtual tours for what they are calling an extended vacation for children to. I do love the idea that like. A titanic. Museum would fully deny the facts of what's going on around them and also it's weird to call that at Children's museum I mean maybe when you're like well no I guess when you're eight not it's they don't call themselves at your children's yeah. They're doing tours for children got up so they're not there for everybody but this specific video is just for children and I highly recommend watching it because of the woman hosting who is called herself. The first classmate Jodi who is dressed like a made but apparently she's a high up on on a ship. I don't understand the costume situation. She has a side kick Joseph who is like Brunette. Jonathan Lip Nikki okay. Who is not amused by any of her? Little Quips I. She looks pissed anyway so for so she tells him at one point that the first class cabin sweet was three thousand dollars. Then which is a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars now and this kid looks at her with the blank. Expression says nothing and she goes. Do you have that kind of money? Yes I listen to my favorite kind of tour guide. He's back he goes no and I never will honestly need something to watch. Please watch first classmate. Jody and a ten year old named Joseph ripping each other threats out. That's a huge. That's a big metaphor for these times. Listen it is pure passive aggressive aggressive behavior on the backdrop of a ship where hundreds of people froze to death. I don't know what else you're going to do with your time right now. No that's honestly watch it yet. Go to outlawed. Go through that experience. Why not I've been through Ellen back not really. I'VE GOT TO RECOMMEND. Daesh seven pandemic. Nee there you go yeah timely. This is from our instagram live from Monday. Which if you don't know we're doing them every Monday. The Times will vary but were there on Monday. Oh Yeah we say that. This week's this Mondays is at a different time. We'll figure it out. We're going to post them. We'll tell you earlier you're going to start. Somebody said tip your postal worker twenty bucks or whatever you got extra. Because they're out there doing doing the hard work of keeping everybody going and bring an extra mass to the grocery store great ideas. Those were great ideas that came out of that that That instagram live. Well my I have. Oh Yeah Oh you've got one go. I can't believe this is a life hack and this is true then. Hit Salt on your food. No wits a Mug I got. I didn't even. It was just. I didn't mean to Tumble Brag. This is so I just wanted to show you that okay. I drink tea every day now and I. I have a secret hot tea. Yeah can you believe it? No I actually. Can't you hated hot beverages? I always have changed options. Probably love changed. Oh Yeah when you're in love you drink tea and honey right now. I'm in love with Diane Lane's performance unfaithful. So now what really. What really happened. Okay so are you ready for the secret to give it to you? But I'll give it to you. I squeeze one half of an entire lemon hot water and I do assign cosign with Mitee for thirty seconds. Toss it out the SIP. That's my secret you under you. Under Steve Your tea and you add a like almost full and I take a classic Sonoma which is now my drink of choice. Oh you're doing to mobilize over steep that that tastes like robot crack. That's what I mean. So that's why I do. My sign cosigned figures and. I pretend that I'm reading tea leaves and I do that a bag. Like thirty seconds with Hatha Lemon and if that's the lemon juice I take a juicer. I juice half of the women and I do the kind that slams down onto the lemon and squeezes it out like those controlled that key hall. Whatever those things are the contraption the donkey squeeze yeah is it a hand one or is it does it. Does it like screw onto your countertop. No this one's a hand one. Yeah Yeah so what I do is I take half a lemon. I cut the lemon in half. Then do a hee-haw I filled with hot water and I do. My infinity sign with my tea back and then. I read the leaves so if anyone wants to know anything more about me you can pay for it. Do you double use your teabags. I'll send you five dollars for this information. I don't actually because I only do like one. Tia Day oh I see okay so I don't really use them. That's that's also you've already got the the psychic for information out of first teabag Zach so I don't Wanna I don't WanNa push a good thing no you absolutely don't so that's my life for the week. Please don't push I wanNA do a thing. I'm going to donate to a different person every different organization every week. I don't WanNa bring you down from your T. Tips. No I mean that was a donation of my time just now but please so then Navajo nation. If you haven't heard is Is being really fucking like ripped apart because of covert nineteen and so? I'm going to donate this week to the Navajo water project because You know as the the New Mexico Mayor Mayor Number two. I'm sorry my governor number two She said some of these areas particularly NAVAJOS. Your situation where you've got folks living without access to water and electricity in this creates unique challenges. It really truly has hit them very hard. So if you I will put it up on my instagram Navajo. Water Project and I'll be focusing on a new charity every week if you WANNA. I've been on the show. Yeah where Tito every time. I'm compelled to buy something I don't need because it's onset I like things are running on celery. Now I live. This is my listen. It's a new May. I'm not using exclamation points. I'm drinking day and I'm writing down slipped a couple times but then I donate the thing I was Gonna buy. I donated money to the three that I've donated to her meals on wheels because it seems to service the elderly yes and feeding America which services everyone but specifically children and then the La Foodbank does the three have been doing. But that's a great idea. I hadn't thought to do anything is I didn't know about that charity to the top. I'm just GonNa try to like listen. I'm doing the opposite of you. I'm consuming so much news on a daily basis that at the end of the night. I just have to watch six repulsed drag races too. Like just get my mind off of it so I wanted to put that information to use rather than just letting my TV watch marrying millions so frankly yours is a huge step up for what minus sixty minutes once a week and the rest. It's marrying millions. Do you know I own it. But here's the thing. I own every single season of repulsed drag race and all stars at. I have watched all of them probably four times each and just keep going back. I I hear you. I'm going back like dipping back into old Judy's when it's judge. Judy is just so good. You like your friend or no dipping back into like old episodes judge Judy. Just because it's so comforting for me right now. D- Are you in. Are you a fan of the Bianca? Del Rio Judge Judy on snatch game. She's great I thought she did a good job she does. She does are you. What are we going to have a? Is there an opening for the next judge? Judy because I would like to see a gay judge Judy. I think that'd be fun. They had one in the early two thousands and I can remember his name. But the tagline was so annoying it was justice with a snap and he just did like something except he wasn't cool. He was a regular judge putting that on remained. Every he didn't we wasn't actually he didn't have personnel. No he was so obviously just doing that to do it so it didn't work well but I think you're right. Why don't you go to law school during the quarantine and then get a mega baby? A judge do it. I'll do it. I will write. I love you. Sweet France all of you for everything. I MISS DICK PIC JAN. But some Yuck into your yom now more than ever if there's something interfering with your happiness or preventing you from achieving your goals better help. Online counseling can help better. Help offers licensed professional counselors? Who Specialize in issues like depression. Anxiety relationships trauma anger family conflicts. Lgbt matters grief self esteem and more. 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"I'm Jake Miller from the educational duct tape podcast a part of the education podcast network just like the show you're listening to now chosen the network are individually owned and opinions expressed may not reflect those of others find other interesting education podcasts at Edu podcast network. Dot Com. Coming up on episode one, sixty, six of the house of Ed Tech podcast get ready to pass the scope. We're talking about a free tool to help check for originality of student work and we have a great interview jared covili strike of the band. You. Welcome to the House of Ed Tech Podcast I'm your host Chris Nessie. The House of Ed Tech Explores how technology is changing the way teachers teach and the impact that technology is having an education. I discussed technology that is changing our classrooms and schools and I share tools and tips that you can here today and us tomorrow. You're going to hear the stories of teachers, leaders and creators just like you. The purpose. Whether you use it or not technology is changing the way you teach and how your students learned. Welcome. Absolute. One hundred sixty six house of ED. Tech podcast. If you're a first timer here. Welcome help you enjoy your time. Enjoy what you here in. You're interested in continuing to come back for even more great content. If you've been here previously thanks for coming back up. Really appreciate it. My Name's Derek Larson. I'm a substitute host while Chris Nessie is away on personal leave I'm excited to be back hosting. Look forward to sharing information that we have in today's episode. If you'd like to find me online, you can do that by. Pretty much to any service and typing at Lars Three be that's me pretty much everywhere. Thanks everybody for your kind words for the previous episode. This community is absolutely fantastic. I'm super excited that I get to work with you all on A. Regular basis with the show right now. 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What would happen if educators came together to share their thoughts and viewpoints on a single topic using the periscope APP is was started back in spring of twenty fourteen via discussion in the Edgy match boxer group and first scopes actually happened on. April. Twenty first two, thousand fourteen. And it has seen some amazing growth as well as a bit of a slowdown in recent times the past the scope Edu community grew out of five initial scope irs. Valerie Lewis whose online on twitter at at I am v Lewis. Dr. Sarah Thomas Online at at Sarah the teacher and that's S. A. R. A. H.. Da. T. C. H. U. R.. Nicole Taylor at K. and I k.. Oh. L. E.. Dr To tool the Toyota on twitter at T O. U. T., O. U., L. E. N. T. away, and myself. We had some discussions and said what would happen if we did this, what if we tried in periscope was still fairly new when we thought let's give it a shot and on that. First event that first day of April. Twenty first twenty, fourteen, the five of US jumped on all at different times and we scope for about five to seven minutes and one would go on. Then we'd passed the scope if you will to the next person and they would go and then we went all the way through and it was an incredible thing and what we found was that the community grew and grew and people want to be involved and for a long time, it was just all over I. Mean it was very very involved. We were they were scoping at conferences and sharing out. Video of keynotes and of speakers and it was it was an amazing opportunity. In fact, I was able to go to two thousand seventeen partial because past the scope edu and menopause some amazing educators. Honestly, this community has been one of the best parts about education for me and the online P.. L. And world because I've made such great connections. Pass. The SCOPE EDU is a great community. Now, why am I bringing up why it's my thought as I'm recording this? We've just had that third Thursday pass the scope happens every third Thursday of the month and Of A rebuilding stage and I actually wasn't planning on scoping today. But what happened was our fearless leader Chris Nessie I'll send he was on scoping I thought Chris has never been on here. I. Watch what Chris had to say, and if if you get a chance go on twitter and search for Hashtag, pass the scope Edu. In going fine. What Chris had to say he can't hold the story about how that the theme for this month was give me a break and some people took it in a in a negative light and took it more positive Chris took it in a way of saying, Hey, i. had to have a break of some sort to get through these these wild times and Kinda how I came to be on the show I, kind of said, let me jump into a show for you. Chris. Doesn't have to sit vacant pass. The SCOPE EDU's the chance for educators to jump on and share their thoughts on topic and opens up such a great dialogue. This is a community that I think every educator should take the time to jump into and to learn more start off by going to twitter and doing a search for Hashtag past the scope Edu watch what's going on and if you think, Hey, best sounds interesting I want to be involved. There is a boxer chat that you can join and we actually do there's discussion that goes on in there. Or you can just go to the SPREADSHEET, which is the sign up spreadsheet I'll link it in the show notes where you can go on you can pick a time. When you want to scope up at the very top of the spreadsheet, there are different time zones. You can kind of see K if it's a at twelve eastern, what time is it all across the rest of the country and if you're outside of the US you're welcome to join. You may have to adjust in kind of figure I figure out the time for you. When it went that actually works. Why do I bring this up though honestly the past the scope Edu community is amazing and think it's something that can really help the listeners here the podcast. So do yourself a favor but check it out and see what you think. Take a look and see if this is a community of educators that can help you and more than that. If, you can share some of your story and help to put out that narrative that you want to be a part of you can look for Hashtag, past the scope. On twitter or you can go to pass the SCOPE EDU dot com for more information, and this has been our ad tech thought for the show. Are featured content in this episode is an interview with my friend. Jared Covili, who is the technology trainer for the Utah Education Network or you E. N., which is a state organization that does so many things here, I, the State of Utah I wanted to talk to jared heaven share some of the things that he has seen in his time in this role. But more than that some things he's. Seen that's happened in Utah during this covid time and kind of get some ideas that can help the listeners understand and kind of figure out how can we work through this and everyone has their own style our own way but I love to learn from others I love to bring that on in. So jared came in shared a lot of great information. So without further, Ado let's get the interview. We have jared Covili from Utah Education Network is one of my good buddy's I've known jared for many years. He is an amazing educator and a great trainer. He does all sorts of awesome things with ED tax. Jared. Why don't you introduce yourself and let everybody know who you are and how they can find you online okay. Well I'm glad that being your friend means that I get to favors for you. That's exciting. But I am happy to be on the podcast today to hope that all the listening audience gets to hear about some of the cool stuff we're doing in Utah as Derek mentioned I'm an ad tech trainer for the education, network. I've been doing that since two thousand and three. So I started teaching people how to use powerpoint, and now we do all kinds of amazing things online with all kinds of. Interesting and cool gadgets. So I've seen a lot of changes in the ED tech world over the last seventeen years. So it's an exciting time to be an tech. It's exciting to be able to see so much of the technology that we've been preaching for years. Now being used every day in classrooms and homes across the country. Some of the things that I've been involved with over the past several years I've been heavily involved with. St And the local affiliate for Utah The are ings has called you set which stands for Utah Coalition for Educational Technology. We've been able to bring some pretty cool things to Utah including a an annual conference that has about eighteen hundred participants and and then we also are heavily involved in the Ed Camp Movement, and we've been involved in ED camps from the northern part of our state all the way down to the southern part of our state and each week I helped moderate the. Weekly twitter chat for the State of Utah, which is called Utah Ed Chat, and along the way I've been involved in speaking and writing and doing a lot of fun stuff with products like Google and cloud based tools. So been really fortunate that I've had a lot of opportunity to share the ED tech message across the country. Jared you are seriously all over the place and I love that about you I wanted to dig in a little. Bit On some of those pieces there. So you mentioned that you You are part of you ESPN, but you also spent time as a classroom teacher what what did you teach and tell us a little bit about your background they're not only just in the classroom but also how did you kind of move yourself into using the ED tech tools at the teacher yourself? So I started out as a high school, English teacher and I I was. In the classroom for about four years, I taught all kinds of different subjects. But one of my passions was I was heavily involved in the Literary Magazine Program which meant that we had to produce an annual book full of student poetry and artwork, and that was kind of a cool thing that kind of got the tech bug into me a little bit because we got to use programs like design and we got to lay do lay out. For the buck and all that kind of stuff. One of the things that I was pretty involved with early on was the school district that I worked at here in Utah had had a technology grant program and the applicants got to have six laptops that probably had the processing speed of your very first cell phone. But his awesome in the classroom we've got to use those. We didn't have to go down to the computer lab. Anymore. and. So I was part of that pilot group and it kind of led me to where I got a Master's in instructional technology pretty soon, I realized that I really wanted to help teachers learn how to use technology their classrooms because I saw the impact that it had on my students and so That's when I made the transition from working in a school to working for basically as a trainer, the State of Utah. That's amazing. Honestly I think I think that's one of the best parts about this is I think it often begins with with the teacher just one teacher saying, Hey, I, want to try something different I. Want to try something new, and then once that person gets excited, we often wanNA share with someone else and kind of get the ball going in. So you are able to take that and not just sharing across the hall or or next door but you've actually you you move that into position where you were helping not just even one district but parts of the entire state and you've actually been all over the State of Utah specifically helping teachers is that correct? Yeah. I. Mean One of the things that we have in Utah a dirk mentioned I worked for the Utah Education Network, where State Agency that actually provides Internet resources. And the backbone for the Internet for all the school buildings throughout the State of Utah. So we not only provide the connectivity so that schools can get onto the network, but we provide all the resources to help classrooms once they're online. So we help them with all kinds of technology. Integration, strategies. Like I kind of mentioned i. kind of got my start teaching things like powerpoint dream weaver back in the day and who would have imagined that we would go where we've gone today. So it's been pretty cool to to go throughout the small rural districts where I been in districts where they have. Everything from. Grade Seven through twelve in the high school to large school districts that. Have Over eighty thousand students in them. So we've really kind of run the run the whole spectrum here in Utah yet it's quite impressive. You know honestly when I look back and I and I look to see what I've gone through as an educator and when I started in Washington County and Washington County is a suburban district. I guess. You'd say yet even that we were tiny down here compared to other districts in state I mean Alpine district is like said like eighty thousand people just massive a large large district and then we've also got the small districts when I spent time at SC CDC. I got to see some of that first hand as well On and you you actually came down and help and worked with us at sad as we worked with some of those tiny districts where we had some schools that were like K. Twelve, twenty, five kids, and it was amazing. Some of those great things I saw an and looking back and seeing all the amazing things that the education worker. UEN. Does what Utah Educator don't realize just how deep it is but they sometimes, they just think about just the the training, which is what you you're part of that. But like you said the whole technical side of it that basically in a way you E. N. acts like than I. Like. An amid the broker for the ISP for the district so that all comes through Yanan Kinda helps them out i. think it's amazing. Well, Utah's been pretty visionary as far as setting the system up because this happened in the early nineties, I mean really we we started out with kind of telecommunication projects where you could dial in and you can have classrooms that met remotely. We used video fairly early in the in the game, and once the Internet became robust enough that we could do these classes online boy everything started to change kids who lived in like one of those district you mentioned that may be has twenty five students in the K. Twelve class you know Tate K twelve school. They could get access to the same classes that a kid could take a suburban Salt Lake City. They can have the same teacher teaches both those groups of kids. It's just really amazing. Some of the things we've done one and it really kind of helps to play into some of that on equity piece right where we're looking at a small district students aren't able. They don't have the catalog of classes that a larger school would have but due to this technology piece, they're able to do that and I love that's one of. The one of the awesome benefits that Utah has were we may not always be the top the front of every every line of everything in education but this is an area where we're leading the way in many of these places and I absolutely love it I. Love that. That's one of the things that you do in. In fact, that's how we met I. Believe I think you were down doing a training in my in Washington one summer and I got to know you from that and I just realized okay this is the guy. I watched at close to and I've been I feel very lucky that I've been able to work with you on some of these these other projects so. I felt the same way about working with you. So that's great. You also mentioned one of the big things in one of the places that you and I, really connect with over the USA board and the use that would utah. Coalition of educational technology or as you said earlier, it's the. PHILLIES FOR UTAH, you've been a part of that organization on that board of directors for for many years. How has that time their help you in your day job of of helping other teachers but also how's it helped you as an educate yourself and making improvements and and learning and growing for yourself. You know one of the things I love so much about being involved. With technology is a really is a big tent where we're trying to bring more and more people in because we know that it will impact student achievement. We know that it makes teachers more excited to teach at. It makes kids more excited to learn. So one over the twelve years that I've been on the USA board, we've seen our conference grow by leaps and bounds. Really, we started out with we were lucky if we get seven eight hundred people at our conference, and like I said in our last few conferences, we've been averaging over eighteen hundred people and that's a lot to do with the excitement that technology brings to classrooms in our state across the country. But what I love so much about working with the board in our state is it's an all volunteer board. These are people who come and spend their time trying to improve education in Utah after they've already gone through their nine to five job. And I it's been awesome to see how our vision out the state's vision has really taken off in the last probably three or four years really to really become a place where when when the coronavirus shutdown, our schools bureau audience may not know this but many states shutdown school for the end of the till the end of the school year and in Utah We said, we need to days to get teachers up ready to go at. We'll start next week we. Closed our schools on a Thursday and are on a Friday and by Wednesday of the following week most school districts across Utah had moved to being virtual school districts where we taught kids online through the end of the school year. If I'm not mistaken, didn't not all that happen during the you set conference last year were basically you were at the conference as the state was coming out and making or is that right? Before the timeline was Kinda kinda shape kind of hazy in. My mind but I I want to say that the conference was happening kind of as things were shutting down or almost GonNa shut down and I can only imagine that the conference really helped to kind of excite teachers to say, okay I'm going to have to do this I've learned some awesome things here at this event. Yeah, and of the goals of our conference has always been that the things that you learn at our conference on, let's say on a Friday you should. Be Able to implement something that you learned the next week in your classroom, and so this is a pretty extreme example where we kinda changed the whole classroom but a lot of teachers have been preparing for this for a long time we've been heavily involved in technology endorsement programs where we have hundreds of teachers every year that certify for our state endorsement as a ED, tech specialist as a teacher. So they show that they understand how technology can have an impact on their classroom. Not just the click here click there and Know all the gadgets that we have in the classroom, but they really have a good pedagogical foundation of what technology can do to improve learning. Yeah and you're quite a few specific projects within you E. N. but I know one of those projects specifically is actually UEN's homeroom podcast and I know typically it seems like you're you're schedules about what compliance a month one maybe. Two or three times a month. But felt like during the shutdown you guys were in some places almost daily during the week you're putting out three to four or five episodes a week, and I was just amazed how much you were doing. One of the things that we felt like we could contribute to teachers during the first part of the pandemic we were trying to do. Things maybe for the first time and we wanted to provide a voice for teachers so they could share what they were doing. So we can have principals and district administrators and librarians on the whole gamut of people education. We could share their stories about how they were adjusting and what they were doing to make kids fill safe how they can help kids feel like they. Could they could they could go on and to kind of give voice to the teachers that sometimes we don't often hear our podcast has been around for a third season. Now, we've got about seventy episodes of our podcast but as you mentioned during the first part of the shutdown in the pandemic, we really had switched from being about a bimonthly. So every couple of weeks, right? We put out an episode and we switched immediately to telling three three plus episodes per week, and even now we've moved from being every other week to every week on our podcast just because we just want to continue to let Utah Teachers here here from there their peers and to share the stories of the great things that are happening in education across our state has been really eye-opening and read very inspirational to hear the stories of great education. Great Educators in Utah and I'll make sure we have a link to that podcast in the show notes for this week's episode because I think it I think it's very powerful for teachers. I mean even look back right now. I mean. We're still on that. We're still in the midst of this pandemic and there are still many schools across the country that are one, hundred percent digital and a lot of the things that were shared especially the your end of. Your last season there was a lot of tips and tricks and a lot of ideas from teacher specifically saying, here's what I'm doing. Here's how this is working. Think you'd be very beneficial for anyone and I think you're GONNA want to go and check that out because there is such good stuff in there and your co host on that Danny Sloan is awesome. She's a lot of fun I'm sure she's quite the fireball intriguing. Have a lot of fun on the. PODCAST I am well aware that this is Danny's world and she's just allowing me to live in it. So when we do the PODCAST I, I'm basically her caddie and tell her which club us and she's the one doing all the driving there. So we have a good time. We hope that people enjoy kind of our take on education and we hope that they can laugh smile and learn something and also love if you've got a producer for your show. He came in I believe in season if I'm not mistaken but he also Fernando he kinda jumps in occasionally and he gets to be that third host at times which I also love I, love that dynamic between you and Danny but I love when Fernando was able to jump in there and we get like, Oh, here's here's the voice and here's another totally different. Perspective because he's not an educator by trade, but he's got some great nuggets of Awesomeness. I think Oh Fernando Laura is our producer that you're talking about and he brings a whole different element to the podcast. I will say our production value went up dramatically when he became our executive producer and his ability to just bring different perspectives and to help us kind of see. More of the technology side of things in addition to the pedagogy side, it's been great. It's been great to learn from him as well as to have him share a lot of his personality with our listeners want also love that he also has a bit of a different perspective also, he comes in as the parent view sometimes because he's not a teacher, but he does have children in education, and so I loved kind piece that he he kinda comes totally different view, but he often has that parent role that. Even, though many education we we might be parents sometimes we Kinda side war with the the educator piece and not so much the parent piece I love that aspect of it as well. Yeah. I mean most teachers were a lot of different hats. But when we get talking shop at about education, we tend to focus in on the teacher side. So it is good to hear from the parents side as well. So another piece you mentioned in your introduction that I, want to pull out is with the ED camp idea. I remember when I was on the board at the time when we decided that we needed to have an ED camp happening in Utah and I believe you are one of the people that was one of the big pusher saying, Hey, we've got to have this is all over the place. We don't have one of these in Utah yet and you kind of were the. Driving Force behind that, and it's been a couple of years now and went from having a single Ed camp for the entire State of Utah, which for those those people on the east coast that our listeners that are not aware Utah's not the largest state but it still pretty big I mean you can literally drive from my house in the southwest corner up to the farthest. Tip of Utah, and that'll take you anywhere from six to eight hours. I mean, really it's it's a very vast state and we're able to have have one ED camp for the entire state, and now we look at it and there have been multiple ED camps, not just multiple events for the same camp but we're actually now on what three four different ED camps happening in the state that were happening fairly regularly before the covert, right? Yeah. No we started out with just one statewide Ed camp, and now we really have three very established ed camps that happen in different corners of our state so that we can reach him. Or regional audience, but it also helps them get more involved than we love it when Teachers WanNa, get involved in in their local area to share the good word of education to help strengthen professional learning among teachers. So like you mentioned when we started camp, it was back in two thousand fourteen really was just happenstance to be honest with you. One day I was on twitter as I was preparing for a conference that I was a present at and I started seeing a lot of the Hashtag ed cap popping up everywhere, and it really got me thinking. You know I've heard of this but I don't really know a ton. About it and so I spent the better part of the morning researching it and immediately just hit me like why don't we have one of these in our state and so we set about to do one and honestly the first by ever attended was one that I helped put together an a this really shows you the power of that model of learning that Once you give people an opportunity to get together with their peers and share ideas about education teachers are on board and it's a great way for them to learn the content that they want to learn about from people that they know that they trust yet. And what I liked about Ed camp personally is that I may not know that person directly but I know that they're an educator and I think sometimes in education will have a consultant will come in and nothing at against consultants I. Love I love many I've worked with many and I have loved most of them but I, at least personally enjoy learning from and with people who are in the trenches just like I am their a teacher in the classroom or they're alive raring working in a library and not they're not so far removed and so I think that's one of the powers of Ed campus it's kind of an everyman's. Conference because no one person has taken hours and hours and hours prepping and beautiful slides. But yet they're just coming in and it really is almost like a physical manifestation of a twitter chat. Yeah. And one thing that I like to say about these events whether it's twitter chats headcounts. I really believe that this is what teachers want the faculty room to feel like the. Faculty Lounge Right. When you go into a place where you're around your peers, you share ideas about what's going well in your classroom you wanna be able to ask questions about things that you need help with, and you just want to be able to share the amazing things that are going on in your classroom and I think, ed, camps are such a great way to do. That you know. I, shop at an Ed camp and I'm I KINDA WANNA learn about a topic for the day I have the ability to add that to the discussion, and before you know what there's a session that's going to be talking about some of the things that I WANNA learn about I'm really the the neat part about this is we found so many different. Ways to connect and build our professional learning networks right I. Mean. It's whether you're online using social media tools like twitter chats or you can go in person and meet up with colleagues say some you haven't met before and others that you've known for years and we just try to facilitate ways that these conversations can happen where teachers can feel empowered to learn typically in Utah. November being the beginning of November is typically Ed Camp Utah, Time. What's going to happen this year? Obviously Kobe is has totally affected classrooms. How's everything going to happen this year with with the Ed Camp Conferences within the State? Yeah. Like you mentioned I, mean our our response of the pandemic as we do not. WanNa. Lose these great learning opportunities for teachers and so like everything else we've decided that we're going to figure out a way to do this virtually. So we're going to be holding. It'll still be called. Ed Camp, Utah because we're going to bring together teachers from across our state like you mentioned that six hours or that eight hours from southern the. Southern most part of our state to the most northern part of our state we're gonNA bring teachers together virtual environment where we're stuck holding at Camp and we're going to bring. US tools that will allow us to get input from teachers where we can still do virtual discussion rooms where we can have sessions where. Teachers can still use that grassroots way of putting now on they want to learn about and we can put something together pretty much. Within a few minutes where we can have discussion happening about topics that the those teachers WanNa learn about even though we won't be in person will find ways that we can do this and bring people together virtually and in order to that we obviously. Pull back the curtain a little bit. I'm actually working with you and as part of that planning group because one of the things I've I've taken the lead with Ed Camp Saint George I. Really Am trying to push that and help that conference that Ed camp to grow. So I'm a part of this planning committee for the whole statewide virtual conference Ed camp but we had to find a tool that would allow us to do that. Do you want to speak a little bit about that tool and kind of how we were able to make that work because any kind of a tool of this size? There's GonNa be some costs unfortunately and you want to share. A little bit about some of the background behind the scenes of how we were able to make this. Now, we're planning to make this work. Yeah. I mean we've done several different virtual events and districts of to that across our state and one of the challenges is, how do you find the right platform? You know we've got some teachers who are in districts that are Microsoft district. So they want use Microsoft teams. We've got other districts that use a statewide license that we have for Webex, and then we've also got other teachers who jumped on the bandwagon because it's very accessible tool for the challenge that you run into when you're trying to host an event like this is. the participants can't keep jumping from one platform to the next right where one sessions in Google, meet the next one's zoom. So we were investigating a tool, the week Jews to kind of bring everybody together we're still in the planning process but one that we're exploring right now is a web service called hop into that really does kind of provide you that one stop or you can bring the other lots of sessions I. You can have keynotes, you can even have vendors. If you wanted to know, we're not personally GONNA do that with the Ed camp model because that's not really the way that goes but tons of opportunities to bring hundreds of people into A. Virtual session where you can have them basically the same way you would move from classroom to classroom in an in person conference you can do the same thing in a virtual conference where you move from one session to another virtually on. It's something that we're excited to try I, mean, none of us ever really used it much before, but it seems to be the right concept to help us bring people together where the technology doesn't become a barrier, but hopefully will make it easier for people to learn. Yeah, I. think that's important. I. Think that's very important mentioned that this is this is one of those times when we're kind of all being guinea pigs for this service because. I don't think anybody really do has have we no one in the state has used one of the has used a service before for a conference I unless are you aware of someone? I mean, there's been a couple of smaller things that I've heard about. That's where we learned about it but nothing on the scale and the thing the thing with this as well as whenever you have to go to a platform like this, there's obviously going to be a cost and I know that's that's cost that can be prohibitive for some people some other groups to try to use a tool like this, but we were able to pull this off. Thanks in large part to you ESPN and becoming basically a major sponsor to help us with this. If I'm not mistaken I, think the idea is possibly to also use this to help with the you set conference in the spring is. That correct. Yeah, I mean once once you find tools that work boy we want to maximize how many different ways we can use them. So we're hoping that whatever platform we do settle on that will be able to use it not only at the camp this fall but also for our statewide affiliate conference, the use set conference in the Spring and I've been on different calls with other affiliates from across the country they're all looking at the same things like how how can we move these in person conferences that we've done for decades to virtual platforms and so it's it's really the challenge, but it's also the opportunity for us to see how can we make this space work better So many of us talk about blended learning environments in our classrooms, and now we're seeing the fruition of this is blended learning environments for our own professional learning and that's an incredible thing to think about is you know we've kind of had the online phase where we've done everything exclusively online. But now we're going to start to see how we can do these blended environment where we can have in person and online at the same time the I find that's incredible I love that idea the fact that. I as a teacher, you know I, I found many ways they could to integrate these digital tools and and Google meets mystery skype calls and all these different things. But it was never like the focus as it is now partially because it's kind of had to become half had to happen with the with the pandemic when it first hit in the spring and all the schools were closed Utah and now so many. So many of them have open at least partially and so I think it's awesome that that. We're able to kind of continue to push that limit and say, well, listen we're going to continue trying continue, learning and really model that perspective because I found with when I work with teachers sometimes as well they forget what it's like to be uncomfortable as they're learning now maybe not so much right now thanks to the situation we've been placed in but. They have no problem having their kids push and kind of move around and I think it's good for teachers. Had that little bit of like, okay. Yeah. This is a little uncomfortable. How do I? How do I push through this and teachers have been so incredible I think every teacher that I'm aware of across the state and probably across the world actually has had to really step into places that are quite unknown and I dare say that the profession has grown leaps and bounds since last fall well, there's no doubt in our classrooms. We talk a lot about having growth mindset, but I think it'd be safe to say that some of us haven't always had that for our own professional learning you. Know that we kind of go to our nature finders comfort zone at. So the last several months of really pushed us to stretch our limits to see what's possible and to really try some new things and I i. think like you say what an awesome example we're setting for our kids at that we can do that too as their teachers that we we will stretch ourselves. We will try new things and we can be successful I. think that's one of the big lessons that I think I'm pulling away from the pandemic education is that we're doing things almost unheard of because of necessity but. Also, because we need to innovate, you know I really don't think that when the endemic is over that, we will go back to the same way of doing school like I can't imagine that we won't take some of these great lessons that we've learned and some of these amazing tools that we figured out how to use in our classrooms and we won't see a more cohesive strategy for blended learning where we can do digital days in addition to person days. district won't shy away from that the way they did maybe a year ago. Why certainly hope not and I think you're right. On that although I have to say, I, think there are many students and probably even a few teachers that are that are now very nervous for the future of our of our of our beloved snow days because I think if nothing clearly this is shown, maybe there's not a need I note anymore and I know there are many students and again probably in teachers that I think we secretly like those days because forces us never had a snow day down there in Saint George Commander actually we have my first couple of years teaching we actually had we had we had two different ones because. Did you get a skiff of snow? Well, here's the problem. We don't want me snowplows in southern Utah we we have I think two or three for the entire county and one of them is always assigned to the freeway in my first year teaching the Thursday and Friday. Before Christmas break it dropped about four inches on us it literally, it closed down the whole town and it was so bad. It was it was sad because the third grade students at my school that year every year. They would do a Christmas play and they would always perform that Thursday, and Friday before we went to Christmas break, and so they weren't able to do their program, and so we actually did the Christmas program in January when we came back and it was very sad. But also part of me is like you know what this is. This is quite historic I. Don't know that this will happen and it's only happened a couple of times and everybody up north always gives us grief but honestly If you don't have it, you don't have it and so a snow day is not always the same amount of snow for some people while the Teacher's Michigan are laughing right now on us but. I will say that having Christmas program in January is a pretty unique event. There's no doubt about it. No, it's definitely and you mentioned Michigan I remember one one year we did a mystery skype call with a friend of mine in Michigan and the the afterwards, our students would just talk and Kinda. Share about were there at it was in January and the students in Michigan said Oh yeah we're we we. Do inside recess because we can't go outside and my kids said why not and they said, well, there's like eight feet of snow out there and and my kids jaws dropped because we had literally just come in from D. Most beautiful maybe a little bit chilly. But the most beautiful day with blue skies and everything and we we ended the call I told my kids don't ever take for granted the weather. We have here because it doesn't happen anywhere else and so yes, I haven't made fun of many times because of the snow and lack thereof. Well, maybe the snow days are an endangered species but boy, we're sure doing some great things to to fill their time and to help them learn even when the weather's not so great I agree I. Agree. So jerrod before we close I appreciate all your time. I. Hate to store your time from you this evening. But thank you for giving me a few minutes and giving the giving our listeners a little bit of taste of what's awesome happening here in. UTAH. In kind of some of the inner workings of how the Education Network supports is teachers in its its technology throughout the state if you could give me maybe two or three things that you've picked up just since. This Kobe pandemic hit where teachers have say like we mentioned earlier have been pushed to the limits and then some well a few things that I've learned. A lot of these things have come from talking to teachers on our podcast. One of the biggest things that I saw that really affected teachers It wasn't that they didn't feel like they were capable of teaching. Students. In distance learning environment. It's just how much they missed the kids. It's how much they they wanted to make sure that their kids knew that they love them and how much they wanted the kids to know that they had faith in them and they trusted them. They knew they could be successful whether they were in person or online and one. Of the things that really struck me was how much the teachers throughout our state spend time building relationships with their students and the most fascinating part of moving from in person to a digital environment is the people that spent the time building relationships in person. Guess what they did when they moved online, they kept those relationships going those kids knew whether they. Saw Their teacher in a zoom room or whether they heard their voice on the phone or even looked out their window and saw some of their teachers driving by an waving and honking that they were loved in that they could be successful. That's a huge takeaway especially for some of our youngest learners all the way up through our seniors in high school. To know that they weren't forgotten huge huge for us will and I love the that you mentioned not only just our youngest kids I think often we think, oh yeah, it's. It's the K. to the K. three students the elementary teachers they're the ones that are the most caring and loving with their kids and as you get older teachers kind of sometimes. They don't have that same ability to connect with their students but I love you brought out the point that no, what's K. twelve? I mean those older kids I feel like I'm now a middle school I feel like the older the kids are that I work with the more the more they need that connection and knowing that there's an adult who fully trust them and is willing to do anything to help them grow and learn I feel like it's even more important than even at the elementary level which it's crucial there but I feel like in the the secondary it's it's just you can't not have it well. And like I said to see principals and administrators and teachers in secondary schools driving around and putting signs in people's yards that say we love our students or you know our students are heroes to this amazing things to see how teachers reached out to the kids. Another thing that I really took away from from the pandemic and what what it looked like to learn online. You know one of the big things that we try and do all the time is we're always worried about being judged about how regardless our classes are, and we need rigor in our classrooms. Do not get me wrong. But what are the things that I saw when you shift from an in-person environment to an online or a virtual platform is you cannot try to cram eight. Hours of content that you would do in person into the same space in the virtual environment. So what forced teachers to do was to really assess what am I teaching, what are learning goals and what needs to happen today for the kids to learn the concepts that they need to learn, and we really narrowed it down to not trying to teach a number of hours. But. To trying to teach the most important concepts and make sure that our students walked away knowing what was essential and that's something. We don't often get a chance to do in our in our classrooms in our curriculum. Planning is to really focus in on what is the most essential thing that has to happen today and Weiss teachers doing that again that really showed me that. Learning didn't change location meaning impersonate virtual, but it changed of our focus and it really made us think about what's the most important thing we're doing we'll talk about with education you have you measure seat time and the fact that you've got to be in the seat like you said initially, but I've always heard that that's the wrong end of the of the purse into the student we knew measuring their head and what their head can do and what they can. Do and I will say if nothing else comes out of this, if teachers get nothing else from his experience I, hope that they can help administrators and district officials and state officials to recognize you know what that ideas is got to be thrown out the window. It doesn't have to be a matter of how much time it really needs to be more based on proficiency levels and and this student can show me they're capable and their their understanding of these topics and these. Essential Items and that therefore shows me that they should be able to progress. It's not a matter of the sat in their desk for everyday for one hundred eighty days but instead that they've demonstrated proficiency in these different skills. So that's one thing i. think honestly for me personally would love to see teachers and students be able to gain from these crazy times and I think they are I really do think that we really have narrowed our focus to being more impactful. In what we do? Well, jared again, I appreciate you coming on I. Appreciate you being a part of the house of Ed Tech Podcast, and before I let you go though I'd like for you to again tell people how they can find you online and if there's anything that you'd like to push out or tell us about take that Matt take a couple of quick and let us know where where they can find you because I guarantee that the listeners here are renaissance. This is an educator I need to keep falling along because he's got some good thoughts and some good ideas. Probably. The best way to connect with me online is through twitter My twitter handle is my last name at Vilis Spelled C.. O. V. IS WHY as probably the best way to reach me? You'll find me involved in a lot of different aspects of twitter chats and sharing ideas from UEN there. and. If you WANNA to the podcast, you can find in any of the major platforms where an itunes and were in Google podcast on spotify It's the U. E. N. homeroom podcast or go visit the website. UEN N., dot org slash homeroom. I'd honestly it's. It's a great show. Not just because I've been able to be gassed on that show but in general, it's it's a fabulous show. I. Feel I feel bad because I think two thousand and nineteen was particularly good right there. I was a very good episode muck alive and that was a great one. I was actually posted Camp Saint. George, and so we were on a educational high at that moment it was beautiful but but the whole the whole whole thing. Is Great and like I said especially that those nuggets that happened during that pandemic. I. Think that was probably some of the best podcasting that I've been able to listen to and I think anybody who will take time kind of listeners listen through those episode specifically are going to learn an catch some nuggets. Awesome. We'll good i. hope everyone gets a chance to check it out. All right. Thanks so much jared for being here. Thank Stark. For the House of Ed Tech Recommendation, we're actually going to go back to jared Covili and he's GonNa share what he likes to call in his podcast a lazy teacher tech tip. So jared, what do you got for us? Yeah. When Danny and air sharing tech tips, we want things that you can use. Immediately the don't really require a whole lot of prep work. We just want things at work. What are the things that I've been playing around with quite a bit I spend a lotta time in Google and one of my new favorite tools here are called originality reports part of Google docs in this tool you can actually. As a teacher, you can analyse student writing to see if it's authentic. And so you can win a student turns in a paper Once originality reports turned on, it will actually go through and scan that document to see if it can find references that look like something that's autumn already online on and it will highlight or report anything that looks suspicious so that you can evaluate as the teacher I think it's a great tool for us as so many of us do not have the time to really do a good plagiarism check but I, think this is a great way for you to be able to quickly see if your students dismayed a simple citation mistake. Or if they maybe have a little bit more malicious intent and you wanted to double check in and let them know that you, you've seen their work and you you expect them to cite their sources. So originality reports is part of the G. Suite for education great tool. Hope you have had a chance to use it if you haven't go check it out. Awesome I. Love that because I think there's there's a number of tools that you can pay for us to get that plagiarism checker that originality checker but this is built into Google can is automatically enabled by default or is that something that? A system administrator enable or is it like an add on? Were they find that? So I think this has to be turned on at the building level. So it's a it's on by default, but this is something that can be integrated into say Google docs for those of us. In Google classroom it can be part of assignments that are turned into there, and even for those of you who use other lms is like canvas or school year our turn it in or different things like that This is a such a system that can be turned on in the new Google assignments as. Well. So lots of different ways to have access to this but a really a really simple tool that can help you as a teacher to ensure that students are turning their own work. Awesome. I love that. So guys if you want to learn more about that, we'll have it. We'll have a link in the show notes about it, but again, you may have to check reach out to your building level administrator for your G. Suite Tools or possibly when somebody at the district level but I think this is a great tool that if it's not already enabled should definitely be enabled. So Jared, thanks so much for a great house of Ed Tech. Recommendation or is like I said, you liked call a lazy teacher tech tip. Great. No doubt. This is the laziest tech teacher. There is awesome. Thanks jared. Bit. Congratulations to this episode House about take. Valerie Lewis? Valerie is online on twitter at at I. 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0151: Utah with Jamie Carter, Tim Glenn & Robert Burch (10/31/2018)

Two Broads Talking Politics

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0151: Utah with Jamie Carter, Tim Glenn & Robert Burch (10/31/2018)

"Have you on this is Kelly swim to give you a quick reminder that on Tuesday, November six that's right election day. We're going to be doing a live show at eight PM central so tune in on Facebook lab or Twitter rive don't bring strangers on cable. What's your favorite midwestern mums and go vote? Listen. Hi, everyone. This is Kelly with two broads talking politics. You can tell where a week out from the election because I am totally losing my voice. And today, I am here with Jimmy Carter who is a field organizer for the Utah Democratic Party, and she's also active on Twitter where some of you may know her from hygiene me Kelly. How are you today? A little nervous, but styled up. All right. Awesome. Is so a have been looking forward to talking to you. Because anyone who's listening to this podcast for a really long time knows that I'm kind of in love with Utah. Democrats I think that Utah's one of those states where it's the most exciting to watch the Democrats sort of come into their own. And I I know you've been doing a ton of knocking doors, and so just kind of wanted to get some insight into what sorts of things you're hearing and seeing and feeling on the ground in Utah. And then also maybe give some advice to people who might be going out canvassing for the first time this weekend for the last weekend. So maybe could you tell people who who don't know you from Twitter just a sort of a little bit about yourself, and how you got involved in the Utah Democratic Party. Yeah. I like a lot of us. I was a little politically active before the last election, but the lost election hit and everything changed, and I became very involved in politics and through organizing a few marches. You know, got to know some people and applied when they Utah Democrats were hiring filled organizer thinking, no way, I was going to get this job. I've never done anything like that before. But they did hire me, and it's been an experience of a lifetime. I have amazing candidates. You know on the state level. Our federal candidates in Utah are doing more than any candidates. Ever have before in this state SRI and is just phenomenal Jenny Wilson is such an incredible person. We have the first Navajos on the ballot was team singer. And they're out knocking doors making phone calls. We have made over six hundred and fifteen thousand phone calls and doors knocked this year to put that in comparison in two thousand sixteen during a presidential campaign. We only hit over three hundred thousand so we have more than doubled the efforts in two thousand sixteen and that is so exciting to be a part of yet. That is really fantastic. I just I love the energy in Utah. And I think it's a place where you can really see the difference. I mean, those numbers are incredible. And so in places where there's been Democrats running in organizing for longtime, and it's just more. Now, it's not as easy to see that stark difference. But. That's really incredible. Yeah. And most of the people that we talked to they have never been canvassed by anybody Republicans have ignored them thinking, they're safe. Democrats have ignored them thinking we don't have a chance. So we're out talking to people who have never ever been engaged in this process before and that to me is just been amazing. They really do open their doors to you. They're willing to talk to you on the phone and most of the time they have a lot to say because they've never been heard before. And they're so grateful that somebody's taking the time to actually listen to what their concerns are what they have to say. And this is red blue independent. It doesn't matter. They want to talk. They want someone to listen. So are you guys talking to to basically everybody, you know, I know some sometimes campaign say, oh, we're just gonna talk to the Democrats and just focus on turnout. But it sounds like you. Are really just sort of trying to to do outreach. Everywhere. We are actually not talking to Democrats until this last week when we went to get out the vote before I would say about a week and a half ago, we only top two independent and Republican voters. And then of course, we would do Democrats who who typically don't vote, but we really were focused on reaching independent and Republican voters this year, and that and that to me has been just unbelievable because Utah is a very friendly states. And they don't the majority of people don't like what's going on. They don't like seeing families separated out the border. They don't like this seat full rhetoric that they're hearing from their leaders. They're very concerned about their health care, and these are all the issues that were hearing on the ground that, you know, their elected officials, even though and this is from the. Republicans aren't listening to them Utah in in some ways, it's going to sound like it's nothing like Illinois. But it's like annoy in that the majority of the voters are concentrated in a single city in Salt Lake City like annoy the majority of the voters are concentrated in Chicago. Of course, the difference being, you know, Chicago has like eight congressional districts all by itself, but but that that does I think lend us certain challenge to to doing outreach in a place like Utah because there's lots of Oaters in one place, and then a whole lot of odors that are just spread out throughout the very big state. Yeah. I and my my districts that I'm working with are all outside of Salt Lake City. And so my closest and forty five minutes away clear up to about a four hour drive. So and that is where I've been. Been knocking for the last three months, and especially in those areas, nobody has ever ever gone to their door before you said that people are happy to be talking to somebody, and they don't necessarily agree with things that are going on in the country. Do think that some of them will be voting for Democrats this year. Absolutely. Absolutely. I do. They are excited to vote. We are seeing record turnout in Utah, so far, and we're probably one of the only red states that actually has that is actually trying to increase voting rights. And so we went to Mellon ballots this year, we went to same day voter registration this year they've made online voting registration, very very easy. And we also have three propositions on the ballot which is really going to generate voters to the polls. We've got medical marijuana Medicaid expansion the end of gerrymandering, and so those are really going to drive our base voters to the polls. But it's gonna get a lot of independent and Republican voters who also believe in those things to put things in perspective. Let's say the Democrats don't manage to actually flip seats at the the Senate level or at the the house level. Could they still make really big? Big in roads. These are some of these districts. There's been really really drastic difference in numbers. Yeah. And and we're so gerrymandered, right. So so in fact, we could see some real progress and a lot of the efforts that you guys are making could be paying off that might not actually lied to flip seats, but could really set things up well for the future. Yeah. Especially especially at the state level. There are four or five state Senate seat that have a real opportunity to flip, you know, along with anywhere from seven to fifteen state house seat that could flip. And if we can flip five state Senate seats and twelve state house seats, we can actually end super majority control by the Republican party at the state level. Ben mcadams though, and you talk to your grocery district for he is now up Dix. Points in the polls. Yeah. Yeah. That one I think is is definitely the one to watch 'em. Really? I've been thinking about these sorts of things a lot of making sure that people don't just focus on sort of the top line. I mean, of course, I very much want Jenny Wilson. Three money to win. But I want people to remember sort of the the progress that will see in kit to disappointed if not everybody we want to win wins on November six. But in fact, we see a lot of progress that could still be really. I think we will see a lot of progress. And I think most people underestimate the work that genuine Charene have done. Shreve has knocked on over seventy thousand doors and not just in Salt Lake City. She's doing outreach in the George and entr willa and rubbing Republican strongholds Theresa's everywhere and Jenny is out every single day. You know, make you phone calls knocking doors. We've never seen candidates do this before. And that's starting to make a real impact. And you're you're seeing with him Guzzi as in you're seeing with the people posting on social media on voting for you. And you're seeing it with the number of volunteers that are showing up. Our offices completely full of people actually had to come sit in my car do this tonight because our democratic office probably has about thirty volunteer. Here's texting and phone calling right now. That's amazing. And that makes me so happy. And I think is such a great sign of sort of what I what we can really do when we set our minds and our hearts to it in this country. Yeah, we we even had to camera crews here today from new local news stations reporting on what we're doing which is unheard of. Nobody cared about what the youth had democrat were were doing. And then why it's like, wow, they're they're working. So I'm I'm really excited. I really think Serena's going to be a wild card, and she is going to shock everybody. Because nobody in Utah has seen the likes of assuring Ghorbani before C is probably one of the most underrated under reported candidates in this country, and she is one of the top candidates in this country. I cannot say Nuff how fabulous serene and Getty are. And I have course, I hope they win anyway because I love them. But I also hope they win because that I can you know, hold it over everyone's head that they were on our podcast. They're they're gonna. So the the other thing I want to sort of talk to you about is for people who are going out canvassing this weekend. So there's this huge push to get a lot of people out for the last weekend. And I think a lot of people they want to do this. They want to go out and make a difference. But they're still kind of scared of canvassing. And so that may be since you've done a ton of canvassing a lot of it in rural areas of it with, you know, traditionally Republican voters taught this through a little bit, and what canvassing is really like on the ground. You know, the majority of people you always get one or two that are a little crazy. But even if you knock on somebody who is hard or supporter of a repeal Republicans are Trump when you're actually face to face, very, very rarely do you come across anybody who is actually rude. Most of the time they will actually stay. Thank you for going out and doing what you're doing because they still appreciate it. And then the real world a lot of this rhetoric that you see online, and the divisiveness goes away when you're having that face to face conversation. People really do connect with you. And they're willing to have a real conversation in person and not the hate that you see online, and I haven't been things so many times Republicans are, you know, you're at the wrong door. You're I don't know why you're here. But thank you for what you're doing. And keep going because I think it's great. That's great. You think that there are things that you've been able to say that if made connections with people things that have helped them realize that in fact, it's in their best interest to vote for the democrat. Yes. And, you know, even when I'm doing texting and somebody says, you know, you're voting already voted by voted for Republicans. I always reply and thank them. Voting and ninety nine percent of the time, though reply. Thank you and good luck. And because they do everybody wants to see democracy in action. And almost everybody appreciates the efforts that are going in. And you don't you don't see the hate that you, you know, that the news media likes to come across. And you don't see the divisions. And almost always you can come across one issue that they will agree with the Democratic Party on, you know, whether it's public lands or education or air quality or the environment, you know, better wages. There's always that one issue that you can connect with them. And who knows what's going to happen when they go into the polls. They very well. Could remember, you know, what it was democrat who knocked on the door and actually took the time talk to me. Maybe I'll take a chance this time. We don't. No. And but that's a very real possibility because they're going to remember you. They're not going to remember the Republican who did nothing to try to get their vote. Have you been in any situations that have been scary? I know that's the other thing. People worry about that. You know, they're going to get to Easter shot or dogs after them or something is that the kind of thing that actually happens in real life. No, no. I have not done. I don't even know how many doors, and I have never had that happen. You know, if you come up with a fence rattle, the fence first before you go in just to make her there's not a dog there. But even the dogs that I found I mean, I've made so many new friends with the dogs, and that's a great way to buy with the person if when you're friends with their dog, I actually carried dog treats with me because that's just a little extra in the and the people that Oregon love it when you're when you have a dog creek for, you know, for their furry friends, and they appreciate the little things like that. But you know, my biggest advice is be yourself. Don't be. Nobody you're not and that and because then you're really you're making the connection, and it's all about that connection. You know, every you're going to be given a script take script, but make it your own. You know, tell your own story. So people why you're out there candidacy, and why you believe in that candidate. And then that comes across as genuine and people really respond to that. All right. Well, is there anything else that we should be sure to talk about make sure you vote? Go vote. If there's anyone taking the time to listen to this podcast who is not voting. I I don't even know what to do about that. Vote go vote early if that's a possibility. So you don't have to worry about something happening on election day. I've already gone to vote all your friends, tell your neighbors. And you know, and I'm going to end with a funny story that happened when I was canvassing this weekend. You know, so small rural town, you know, I'm a stranger walking around. And it's one of the nicer neighborhoods in a cop pulls up asked me what I'm doing there though. I immediately pulled out my lit and said have you voted yet? No. Are you planning to vote? Yes. Pretty have. You heard Tim glad and Jenny will who. Well, let me give you some more. I think the top is going to vote. I think he's been vote for Tim and Jenny. And then this is again small town the next three houses, I knocked out when they answered the door. They said, oh, you're the vote lady going around talking to folks. That's excellent. From now on Jamie. I'm gonna call you the vote lady. It was so funny. But the cop did not even know what to say. Yeah. Took my lit and loved and obviously told everybody, but I was just the vote lady walking around. And I was I was okay. All right. Well, vote lady, Jamie. Thank you for all the work that you're doing. I'm I'm so excited about Utah this year. And you know, I think it's so excellent. All this work that you guys are doing and is really gonna be. I think this is really a a moment that that changes us, right? Like, whatever the outcome of this election. I think this moment where we all decided we take charge. We're not gonna let things happening to us. We're gonna make things happen that this is just it's it's great. And then you see all these young dynamic candidates running for office. The first time, you know, they're not Titians. They're not taking corporate cock money. And they're in there. They're in this for the right reasons. And that's what's so exciting to me from you know, county commissioners to county clerks who, you know, the state senates and the state houses, and this is happening all over the country. People are step every day. People are stepping up to run for office for the smallest seats, and they're putting in the work. And that to me is so exciting because it's a new breed of politician that's running because they're not polishes their us. All right. Well, that's a good way to close. So jamie. Thank you so much for talking to me, and maybe we'll catch up again on election night. Yes. So thank you, you keep up the good work. And keep my voice and keep your voice. Hi, I'm Jenny Kaplan. And I'm the host of wonder media networks podcast women belong in the house. It's been a dark few years, but more people than ever are stepping up and taking action a record number of women are running for office this year, we're telling their stories, I'm asking who are these people and why in the world that they decide to run why are there? So few women in office to begin with. And what would be different if that changed checkout women belong in the house wherever you get your podcasts. We'll bring new weekly dose of hope an optimum. Everyone. This is Kelly. You've got the two sick breads tonight. I'm here with Sophie who may or may not have strep throat. Hey, sophie. Hey, Kelly and joining us tonight is the hopefully very healthy to Glenn who is running in Utah for these state house district sixty nine. Hi, Tim knock on wood. Hopefully, I don't get sick. But in the next week. Yes. At least hold out for the next week. So thank you for joining us. Can you start just by telling us that a little bit about your background in wire? Running for the Utah house. Sure kind of a huge question. But I my background is in history and cultural resources on a museum director in my regular life and have always sort of been someone that's interested in policy, but not so much politics being involved in politics. But then, you know, the last couple of years sort of as someone who is, you know, pretty engaged in my local community, you know, try to to figure out how I could. I don't know. I didn't wanna look back when I was fifty and see like, what did I do, you know, and this felt like something that that I could actually succeed. And so too many in the in the ring. All right. And so destroyed sixty nine is a fairly rural district where is this in Utah? Very rural district. So we are in southeastern Utah, which is portions district cover the city of MOAB and arches national park is in my district. I live in a place green river, which is the town of nine hundred and fifty people. And then there are the, you know, a handful of towns in this district, but it's a lot of land. And then a lot of sort of small towns scattered throughout a lot of extraction a lot of tourism industry. A lot of farming. I recall -ture, so very rural. So that must be a bigger geographic region than the lot of state representatives need to be out canvassing end fool. Fool. Yeah. I've driven over four thousand miles during the last year trying to just reach voters in my district and not you would be surprised how few voters four thousand miles actually represents. Yeah. Looking at a map of Utah right now. And it's like there's twenty million districts in in around Salt Lake City. All right. Very very big ones around the outsides of Utah all right in. So then what are the kinds of things that you're hearing from voters as you're putting all these miles on your car talking to them. You know, I think the biggest concern from boaters right now is in our in our district. There's historically our districts has been really very reliant on coal jobs and the coal industry extraction. Cross the board and also power. So there's a couple of power plants that provide a lot different jobs in to discontinue a lot of people are really concerned because we're in this sort of shifting period. And there's a lot of people who are trying to sort of bring back the coal industry. A lot of people who think it's time for these communities to move on some of these no app, specifically the community that is sort of moved away from extraction and has obviously look towards tourism. But even that is not sort of not everyone. Agrees with that a lot of people call that industrial tourism. And there's a lot of I would say like economic worry still in a lot of worry about jobs. So one of the things I really liked about your website. Is you talk about how you are personally planning on voting on the ballot initiatives in Utah in twenty eighteen. So I was wondering if you could tell us a little bit about how you feel about the three propositions that you mentioned on your website, the medical canons proposition, the Medicaid expansion and the better boundaries proposition. Yeah. It's a medical cannabis is something that people have been trying to pass in Utah for a few years. Now, I just I support it. I think that it's ethical choice. I think that especially in in my district, there's a huge opioid crisis right now. And there's studies that have shown that medical cannabis where it's introduced in in areas of high opioid use the opioid use goes down. Because people aren't you know, they have options for a prescription for their pain. And I think that people should. You know, sort of thing that that people should be able to make that their doctor, and we shouldn't we shouldn't be limiting medicine from people Medicaid expansion. I mean similarly, I think anytime that that I can vote for giving healthcare to somebody. I'm gonna vote for that healthcare is literally on the ballot and Utah. And and I don't see how you can build against it. And I think that there are people that talk about in the cost associated, but right now, Utah pays the taxes for Medicaid expansion goes government, but we don't get the money back because this of Utah's chosen not to participate in so. Yeah, that's a big deal, and then prop four is better boundaries, which is to to create a nonpartisan committee or board to to help decide redistricting boundaries, which might this district was was gerrymandered and after twenty time in a in a bad way. And the way I see it is it's. Not fair for either either side. So our district they cut up very very right leaning heavily Republican county into three different districts. And so just because they could they knew they could rely on those votes and not only did they cut up areas where there were left-leaning people, but they made it they gave worse representation to account that was right leaning. And it was just because they knew they were gonna get those votes, right until any I I think that obviously, this is a fairly liberal view. But redistricting in Turkey making it's just been like a score upon our country over the last who knows how long and so especially in Utah. I would love to see an opportunity for nonpartisan group to to draw those lines. So you're pretty young candidate. And you have a young family of young kids. I I noticed that one of the things is on your Facebook page. You get a lot of. Comments from sort of both sides, you know, they're supportive ones. But there are not so supportive ones. It seems like you've kept a very sort of open positive up beat way of responding to those kinds of comments, which I think is is really great keep talked about that a little, you know, sort of what that dynamic is like being a public figure having people sort of attack you for further that may or may not even be things that you believe. But rather of what they think Democrats are. Yeah, it's pretty wild. And it's like kinda picked up a lot in the last couple of weeks. And it's funny. You mention that. I was late calling you because we were having trouble putting our kids to bed. So. Yeah, it's it's a it's a balancing act. But yeah, I I mean, I think that I I don't I don't love to talk about my strengths, which is an odd. I think thing for candidates to say, but I think that one of my strengths is is respecting other people. Opinions even if I even if it's pretty aggressive, and even if it's it's something that I really agree with her. I think flat out wrong. I think no matter what you kinda have to start with with a baseline level of respect for the human being in front of you. And I think that's where a lot of my responses to people comes from just sort of trying to I personally don't see any value in in sort of like online arguments or just this sort of like, the human -ation that happens and social media, and and just arguing with faces on a screen versus like actual people until I really try to I've tried to show that like candidates are humans, and and especially someone like me, I'm not I'm I've never wanted to be a politician. You know, that's not something that I'm I don't even know if I want to be a politician if I win after I win I don't know like how I don't. I don't want a career in politics trying to say to like have people put you in a box. When when you don't necessarily belong back or maybe you do belong that box. But they haven't even taken the time to recognize your humanity before they put you in that box. I I really hate when people do that to me. And so I try not to do that to others. But I will say that like there comes a point when it's like on my Facebook page right now, they're pretty hateful things until like I've been I've been I've kind of had a personal policy like to respond to people with humanity and say like, hey, I see you Europe person. Do you see that? I'm a person, and then they don't they don't respond. Well, after that, I just ban them. So. Yeah. Yeah. No. I totally agree. We had a tweet go viral over the weekend. And you know, for the most part, it was very nice comments. But there were a few that we're not so nice, and I tried to be respectful and say nice things. And then yet if they clearly weren't gonna. Be nice and response. It was like, okay. I've had enough of you. But we're not running for office. So we don't have to walk any lines of being nice. If we don't feel like it. In person. Are you seeing that same sort of dynamic or people in person, generally nicer in not sort of putting you into boxes like that? It's a night and day difference in person like we can have respectful conversations. And we can we can disagree on things. And yeah, I would say it's it's completely different. It's actually something that if I if I win thought about how am I going to connect to these people if I win because the candidate, you know, like, you don't just get to, you know, just get to be the representatives people agree with you. Right. You have to be there for everybody. And so I've been I think that's kind of key. And I've thought like really conducting connecting people face to face, even though, you know, some of these places are like, you know, two and a half hours three hours away from where I live, but it's worth sort of spending some some significant time in those communities to try and make inroads to show that like somebody today's that. That I would just come of humanity because I was a democrat. And I think that that's just probably someone that doesn't know a lot of Democrats people. Right. Yeah. I think that's sort of the question of our time right in general. We we all need to reconnect, you know, whatever whatever happens with this election. Whatever happens in twenty twenty lake somehow we'll have to learn to get along as people again. And and I think that that talking to people in meeting them in person seems to be the the only way that could really happen. I totally agree. So I've been trying to understand the electoral history of this district. And it seems like the woman who is currently the Republican incumbent use to be a democrat. He was. Yeah. She was she was a democratic Representative in the state house, and then after after our district with gerrymandered she laws, and it's kind of funny from what I hear the even the the Republican leaders in the state house. They didn't even know that the district was in play when they during that election. So like when they when they're Republican one, none of them, even they had never even met the guy who won. They had no idea. He was back. Good of a job. So yeah, she she switched historically. It's been it's been like the the ones of democratic stronghold off the front outside of this city metropolitan area. But then when they redo the lines that became more of a fifty fifty district, and I think this election is really it'd be a really interesting sort of signpost along the the way because the last few people who have run they've come this one from one specific county. And so it's hard to know if people were sort of supporting the democrat because he was because they knew him or if they were supporting Democrats, and I come from a community that's about an hour away from like, the major population base, which is still only twenty thousand people, but a lot of them don't know me personally. So so it's a real it'll be a real interesting sort of marker for whether or not it actually fifty or if they were just supporting a popular person in their county, and it was really close in twenty sixteen is so the Republican only one by little over three hundred votes. Yeah. It really feels like the kind of district that a lot of hard work knocking doors can make a huge effort. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're trying. Well, and I it seems like it should help. Then having strong candidates. Up and down the ballot. So Johnny Wilson running for Senate who we've had on the podcast, and in this is the the district word, James, courage singer is running that, right? That's right. Yeah. District. Yeah in so having him running stone campaign. It feels like that could and should hopefully make a difference. Yeah. I I'm really hopeful. And also, those ballot initiatives are are hopefully driving a lot of of voters as well. It's really sort of one of those districts that I don't think anybody can you could make an argument for for any anything in this district. Like, a sure thing for the Republican sure thing for me. It's really hard to know. And presumably there's not a lot of polling. The polling is the people who I talked to at there. So I see you talking on social media about transient room tax that that's something as you go from from place to place around the district that you're hearing about and I have no idea what that is. So can you tell us a little bit about what that is? Yeah. For sure so transient tax is basically it's a hotel tax so yuko, and you stay and hotel in MOAB, you end up paying attacks for for staying in that hotel, and it's historically it's been a growing tax in this district, especially for for that area and for the area that I live in. But the state when they set it up they they created in the code. They it's a it's a tax that goes back to the counties, but they say that the county's can only spend one third of the tax on infrastructure, and they have to spend two thirds of the tax on marketing. The idea was that if the hotels are paying the tax than they should see some benefit from the tax. But the mistake was that the hotels aren't actually paying the tax you, and I are paying the tax, and it's a -ssume that a tourist has no impact on the space that they inhabit. Right. So like you go to MOAB you're going to use the toilet. And you're going to buy food, and you're gonna use the roads, and you're gonna walk on the trails, and you're going to really have an impact on the space that you can had it. Right. But if you if the community that supports you can't actually use the money that you're paying to mitigate the impact that you have disaster comes, and that's what's happened in a lot of these communities or excuse me in MOAB, specifically, they they had more money in transient room taxes at five million dollars in transient room tax than they did in property taxes. And so that means that there were literally like hundreds of thousands of people who are impacting their city without and the city was unable to actually mitigate the costs about impact because they had to spend had to spend. Three and a half million dollars on marketing, which I'm sure like you guys you you're in Chicago. Right. I am. Yeah. So he's in medicine. So you've probably heard of MOAB, right? Yeah. Moheb doesn't need is three and a half million dollars on on marketing, but they do need to spend the money on their infrastructure. What the huge deal like county should have should be able to just set a budget. That's my solution budget to say like, oh, we're we expect to receive X amount of dollars. And but we have these specific needs in our community. And so we're going to spend three fifths of the transient room tax on infrastructure this year. And what I see is why that's not just the specific to MOAB issue as our communities in this district move away from extraction. There's gotta be something else. And a lot of small towns. They don't actually want tourism. Right. They don't see that provides. Good jobs. They they don't necessarily want a bunch of people coming to their community, and they also don't really want to have to market their communities. Right. Like, you don't you? Don't everything I hear in southeastern Utah is we'd like to have a little tourism. But we don't wanna be. Moab? And so I see this. I see this as a way of provide a bridge from potential extraction industries to tourism industry without of becoming these overused overrun communities or landscapes, and and actually have a positive impact on the people who live in these communities. So if I'll tell you like in the summer where I live the grocery store terrible place to go because he's just like so many people, but if we could benefit from the money and not have to market as much and try to find a better balance that would be a much better. I think it would be a lot more attractive to local communities in in these rural areas. I know in Utah as in many other places in the west public lands are important. I'm wondering if you can tell us a little bit about how you'd have values public land, and sort of what you want to do for public lands in Utah. Yeah. So I believe that public lands are protection for the middle class. And I'll probably go to my grave saying that public protection for the middle class. And there's there's this sort of like growing thing happening in the west where a lot of states are trying to it's been happening in Utah for a long time. We're kind of ground zero a lot of states are trying to take control of federal lands and have Bates control those lands, and that really is sort of a loud voice coming from rural rural Utah politicians. And I think that's a mistake. I think that our state politicians are in the state code. They're not accountable to us in the same way that that are rep. Tentative on the federal level are so there's no state Utah state EPA, right? There's no there's no protections or to stop the state from selling off public lands. In fact, they do it all the time with with the public lands that they have right now until I can understand there's this. There's this middle ground that I think people are missing and in rural Utah. And I and I I think it's. It's not just like, you know, you know, wilderness wander or quote, unquote, environmentalists or people that are, you know, that don't want anything people who wilderness. I think people who rely on public lands for energy and for extraction. And and for jobs are missing. That public lands are actually a real benefit to our communities. Like, the the the thing I say is, you know, you go to Texas, and there are no public land. Very little public lands until like you have to own you have to be very wealthy person to sort of like have a ranch or to build some sort of like extraction industry to be very very wealthy and the same is true here. But here there's money that actually comes from the federal government anytime. Somebody uses public lands, and it goes right back into your county. It's called a leaf and the federal thinking. You have to pay to the public to lease their federal land. And if that becomes private which would happen under state controlled land, those counties would no longer be that that money anymore. I think it's something that people are just really really missing some of my favorite public lands in the country are in Utah. Yeah. Mine too. Like, I'm up person that just likes to get, you know, I'm I'm probably in line with more of those Wanderers like, I don't, you know, I I like to use public lands with my family, and hike and canoe, and that's how I tend to use those lands, but anybody that uses plans is gonna have a hard time doing it when they are. They're no longer public. I mean, that's just like the fact. All right. Well, Tim, thank you so much for talking to us tonight a week out from the leg. For sure listeners would like to help out your campaign in this last week. Oh, can they do that? They could jump on website of Tim Glenn dot com. And they wanted donate financially. We would love that mostly. That's just going to go to like text messaging or digital ads at this point. Or if they want to like actually jump on a phone and call people that would be cool to write checks and people could go to your Facebook page and say nice things. Like, the posts that are like very, I don't know respectful of other people. All right. Well, too big you so much for talking does in think you to for running. I think it's important that that people like you are running for office. Third to November six be sure to check up a hashtag wave cast on Twitter. Wave cast will tell the story of the final days of the campaign from our perspective. That's right from hours to stuck in politics is proud to be one of the anchor Twitter accounts. This never there will be activists tweeting out videos and pictures reporting on their candidates campaigns in describing the final moments as the Blue Wave crashes over the ballot boxes said check it out. We've cast on Twitter. I'm here in this segment with Robert Birch who's the democratic nominee for the Utah house in district thirty. Hi, robert. Hi, kelly. I'm great, thanks for joining me. Right. You have still could we start? Could you just tell me a little bit about your background? And why you're running for the Utah house this year I've been in Utah off and on now for since about two thousand. Four. So I'm originally from Decatur Georgia right outside of Atlanta. And I live out here. And I moved back to back out here at Utah. And I just found some kind of magnetism to Utah. Can't explain what it is. But I'm here in we've enjoyed living here in Utah. My wife, and I and discussed moving somewhere else, but we found that we probably want to stay here. And so what staying here we also decided, especially as an African American that we should do something to serve the community to to try to make things better not just for African-Americans, but for everybody, and so we served community at a lot of different ways eleven Saint remember digitize anything is. So we served in church capacities, and we serve as volunteers in. In different capacities. My wife is primarily worked with use in families who adopted black kids and who found those kids have had trouble adjusting to a predominantly white community. So TNI of together track to serve all of Utah. With those children to make sure they get a coach rated and so two way that their their parents who loved them can be able to raise them successfully. From that. I was serving Utah black roundtable afro American stalk Latini logical side, daughters, US middle patches, just so just a lot of capacities that my wife, and I heard and then so friend mentioned my name to one of the west valley city council, and I live here in west valley, Utah, and he mentioned my name to Jacob fisa model and the next thing I knew I had all these Democratic Party. People calling me asking me to run really. A good friend of mine. She she only African American Representative in the state legislature right now, Senator Hollas and up having her her husband called me. He's one of my fraternity brothers from America five fraternity. And so when David Sandra finally contacted me figured out was and now. Gotten so many calls for so many people. But you know, when Sandra Hollas asked him it was time to make a decision. And so that's how I got your. But it's it's really been fun. I've learned a lot guys I've learned more than I ever thought I would about politics, and so the community and getting out there and talking to people you find out some of the things that they're Wrigley really struggling with is is very interesting. Where in Utah is distinct thirty we're the northern half of west valley city, so west valley as far as they were office. House Representative is divided into three parts divided into three parts. And so I have district thirty the north side of the city and sell as that that as you're going around and talking to people you're you're hearing the things that that are wearing them in interesting them right now, what are some of those things that you're hearing from people. Oh, I've heard so many different things. And it and it depends on what the ages are and what their specific concerns from things like hospital care healthcare, especially for for parents with children with disabilities. I've talked to several parents who have kids who are artistic and in other ways ill, and and having a social services out here that can provide for them healthwise or educationally wise getting those kids into the right type of school the right type of environment. So that they can become successful. A lot of discussion about proposition two which is about medical cannabis. A lot of people are suffering again with family illness and not being able to find a treatment that effective and having to go to other states to be able to find what the need for their children in for their family members. Right next door to Colorado and divider already have cannabis legislation passed, and so a lot of people end up going to those places to take care of their family members health needs one of the other big things here. And I'm not sure how familiar you are with the Salt Lake valley, but valley is surrounded by mountains on both sides of the valley. And we have thing that we call inversion, which means that the wind blows the pollution to the side of the mountain pollution gets stuck. And so the pollution literally settles down over Salt Lake City, which us in the pollution range of some of the worst places in China. So we have a lot of different issues with people reacting to your campaign, you know, Utah's as many people know is kind of a predominantly Republican state. You know, our people. Happy to see a democrat out and running. How what is that gonna look like on the ground? What it looks like on the ground? This is that and I don't know if you know this not the state of Utah has one of the worst voter turnouts in the nation. I mean, real literally right near the bottom. And so we have electorate here that simply doesn't turn out to vote. It doesn't matter if you Republican democrat the problem being put being predominantly Republican is that you have a lot of folks who are accustomed to Republicans running everything there's so many other Republicans don't show up to vote, and then you have many of the Democrats who accustomed to the Republicans running everything. And so the Democrats don't feel. So so we have this kind of weird thing where it's not just trying to get Democrats out the vote, which is probably the most difficult part of the get out is getting those nonpartisan unaffiliated. I guess you would call independence out and getting the Republicans out to voters. Well, we generally as Democrats and independence lose by default, simply because many times we don't show up, but it has been different this year. I think is probably because of the kind of animals that we have on the national level. Yeah. So we have people who I've themselves. Nonpartisan unaffiliated who find out I'm a democrat. And they're very excited. The have to finally see democrat running for office in this in this particular district in who's come out knocking doors and came out to meet them and talk. And get to know them. So they're very excited about it. And we hope other hard work makes a difference with us in the next six days ain't notice that when the issues on your website is public education. And I was wondering if you little bit about education, and you know, kind of what you would like to see the state house doing in terms of education will one of the things that we are looking at this year is this this none binding question about using particular gas tax to increase education for increased funding for education and for local roads, again, one of the bad things about this. They just funding for education system is near the bottom in the nation. And what started out as a proposition from our schools now was because the legislature for many years, we're not interested in bringing forth the money we need for education. So our schools now for. Formed in order to bring a proposition before the body to get them to think about legislation to increase school funding to reach your customized with most of what they wanted. And the last part of this right now is a ten cent increase on gas tax to try to see if we can get the money that we need to properly fund schools and fund something needs to the teachers who are in the school. So that is a big deal. Another big deal for me is there's really a a real disconnect between a mini of the school boards here in Utah with the teacher associations that type of relationship is not good for the kids because we have management on one side teachers on the other side in no way to move forward. So much of the things that have been done right now in the grad school system on without teacher input which ended up being resulting being ineffective in operating the school. So essentially just wasting money. So. Oh, we need to find a way to get those two bodies to be able to collaborate and make sure that we're not wasting the few tax dollars that we do have education. What is some of the other things are doing besides knocking on doors? What are some of the other kinds of vents you've been doing kind of raise awareness of your candidacy, or we have done everything from activities in the park to views events that one of the best events. We have is you was actually the youth come out to to meet the candidates. So they understand what's going on in their community and just Greek and not just certain sick minutes weather is to gain less being community to to make sure that they understand and know that we care about them, the the black community, Hispanic and Polynesian or Pacific islander community. We have very large community out here. Pacific. Islanders dead include tungsten, Samoan Hawaiian. In of ages Japanese and so forth, so reaching out to those communities and in some very vents coming out to speak in meet people. So we can make sure they understand that we care about what they care about. Do you think that then you know, you mentioned the the low voter turnout? Do you think those numbers are going to be out this year? Yes, I think so we asked me what checking on some of the numbers she last night night before last and the million ballots are already more than fifty percent of the last mid-term. So we know a lot of folks voting and their voting early which is good. We do. We just want to see how much that is going to sway our way, and we really try to work those numbers. I think with the atmosphere allow those people who identified independent, and some sort or really going to really what makes a difference for us out here in. In Utah for them for the Democratic Party to get those voters to sway towards especially with the women. We we have a huge huge huge problem with female voting in Utah. A lot of these women as of tradition here in the coach here in Utah have always given the votes per se to their husbands. So the only person in the family that was registered to vote was the husband and whatever he decided what the wife accepted. So we have literally two hundred eighty thousand women who are eligible to vote who are not registered to vote. So we're hoping that we can get some of those ones to show up in vote and vote for Democrats. I saw that you were endorsed by the LDS dumbs this year, and that this was their first year of endorsing candidates. Can you talk a little bit about that? I mean, that's. Sort of uniquely Utah thing, of course, having one religious group have such a, you know, a big percentage of the citizens in this state, and then being caucus within the Democratic Party at some point. And I'm not exactly sure how this occurred there became to believe and members of the church Jesus Christ latter-day saints that to be a leading man, you was a Republican. I'm not sure exactly again how that came about. But it did. So that meant that generally that was ill will towards people who were not Republicans meeting. If you was latter day saints in you was a democrat. Then though something wrong with you. I don't know if you saw it recently just a couple of days ago, the leadership of the church. Giving a mouse -ment through the Salt Lake Tribune that they would neutral on parties in that all parties had something beneficial to offer which we think is good because now, you know, hopefully, it would not continue to be a real Bajic urge to be able to say that you are LBS in that you're democrat, which is a big deal because for foot L Democrats is been a long time coming lot of hard work to get acceptance in the community as a political party in a political caucus, you know, party that didn't seem to be favorite because of whatever institutional ideas that was created user go. Anything else that you wanted to make sure we talk about what I think the biggest thing for me. That is that we really need. We really want the women to get registered into come out in vote into recognize that the things in this state that affect them the most they can have some say in not just here in Utah. But throughout the entire company country in indeed the entire world where women are being negatively affected and these sisters these women need to start standing up for themselves and start speaking for themselves and making sure they get the being respected. This was one of the first things spoke about beginning of my campaign in April. Is that the women here need to demand respected they deserve. Because we have some great women, very will educated great personalities and characters they have great character. And they need to make sure that the things that. They need or are provided for and not just simply accept what they're giving by Abbadi of me, and who may not necessarily understand what they need. I want for them to speak up to show up and vote and make their voices heard and help make this community better. Just like with the rest of the country. There are a huge number of women were running here for office in Utah Vish they need to step for they need to be representatives. And they need to to wash their concerns in the state house as well as the US house listeners would like to help support your campaign in these final few days. How can they do that? You can go to for Utah dot com that my website and the second tab over says donate you can donate. Sure. We in the last six days will will try to have a really great big push to get out there and reach people and weathers. Through mail through phone calls. Whatever it in whatever form, it is it requires money, and we need to be able to do that. And also to if you have access to any of the information on Facebook, you can find me a Robert Burch house district candidate thirty on Facebook and reach out to some of those women and indeed a lot of our friends out here who were just needing some more support in some kind words, and and help us push for it. Especially for the entire Democratic Party for this entire state. Excellent linked to your website up on our website as well. Robert. Thank you so much for speaking with me and thank you for running this year. Thank you Kelly. I really appreciate it. Hope you guys. Keep an eye on us. We're going to try to make some great historical changes out here in Utah and just like with the rest of the country. We hope we can do. Well, thanks for listening to to broads. Talking politics are song is called. Are. You listening off of the album elephant shaped trees by the band, immune ary, and we're using it with permission of the band our logo and other original artwork is by Matthew Westland and was created for use by this podcast.

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Daily - Bowman on a Fan-Less NASCAR

The Final Lap

01:29 min | 7 months ago

Daily - Bowman on a Fan-Less NASCAR

"The final lap with Kerry Murphy is is on Alex. Bowman is on and when racing returns for real. How's it going to be with no fans in the grandstands for him? Yes give different without fans for sure. Obviously fans are are widely. Get to do what we do. At unfortunate that we're not gonNA be able to have fans there but at least he'll be able to to put on a show for everybody at home watching. And hopefully we get to go do that to degrade. I don't know good question. I feel like it's going to be really weird. Visually not having any pans there but aside from that I mean I've Kurdish. I keep to myself kind of just WANNA do my own thing so when it comes time to to go into work and driving the rates car. I think it'll it'll be business as usual you know. The situation might be different with with practice or schedules. Or whatever that may be but other than that Really just be business as usual just being as I just kind of do my own thing. Does Alex Plan on continuing using I racing when real racing returns man. I don't know about that You know I think it has its place in there are things. Utah for But I think we have tools like our chevy simulator and things like that that can create Some other great things as well so we use it a little bit before And I'll continue doing that but Probably won't won't change how much I used it. It'll it'll probably be about going back.

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ODS Ep. 20a Moab, Utah; Family Road Trips; Arches National Park

OUTDOORS SCOPED

26:50 min | 1 year ago

ODS Ep. 20a Moab, Utah; Family Road Trips; Arches National Park

"Well hello there. It is Bobby Falkenberg. This is episode twenty of outdoor scoped and if if things sound different and the fact that this podcast is coming out on Wednesday night or Thursday morning whenever it is I finally get it out because all kinds of things going on first off before we get too far into it real quick I just want to it. Make sure everybody remembers that outdoor sculptures brought to you by Iron Fitness Twenty eight seventy eight north highway twenty one over to Texas. I Venice's where you go to do cross fit or bootcamp whatever you WanNa do really but that's what they offer for the most part and you can go in and get your fitness on you can scale it to whatever works for for you don't talk to one of the coaches over there some of the administrators Tracy Dwayne or Tommy and get you hooked up skela workouts to wear it works for you and remember cross-fitters about highly varied functional movements working on your your agility speed your cardiovascular your strength your endurance all those things and it is an amazing program and if anything he whip you into shape cross crossed it can and you can get that over it irony fitness again twenty eight hundred ninety eight North Highway Twenty one over to Texas that number's eight one seven nine three three nine eight hundred twenty one eight one seven nine three nine eighty one twenty-one remember you irony alert fitness workout on and be better than you were yesterday now wipe things sound different was a podcast coming out late two reasons one. I'm on vacation but you know what I had done. I'm on vacation for about two weeks as what the family and high do every year we don't do a whole lot during the year and we are outdoors people so we can take a look a little bit longer vacation than some others because we spent a lot of that time in a tent we stay in a hotel a little bit we're staying in a hotel tonight up here in Utah but most of the time we're we're in a tent and we're back packing or hiking refreshing or whatever and so it's a lot it's a lot easier to leave and and not have to pay out the Yin Yang. If you're sleeping in a tent a Lotta your expenses are paid before even going vacation but the other part of it is and I you know I love her to death. It was not her fault at all. I you know I can I can take the blame I could easily take the blame because I didn't tell her do not carry the laptop. If it's not in a bag or protective the case and I didn't tell her that so you know really it's multiple. It's really my fault but anyways Monday night as I was about to edit the podcast that it was going to release this week my wife had borrowed my laptop and she had the cable plugged in snagged on the door and it fell and needless to say either today or tomorrow it'll be on its way back to apple for about eight hundred dollars worth of repairs. That's what's where all of my podcasts were for the next three weeks because I had planned ahead and I had Kelly van meter on this week I had Mike Wagner on next week and then I interviewed a brandon rider the singer songwriter it was also big into hunting and fishing and he was going to be on the week after that and I had all of them can they're all on my computer and God willing. apple doesn't lose all that data so that I can bring you those interviews in a couple of weeks but until then I thought when life gives you lemons make make lemonade so that's what I'm doing. I'm making lemonade and what I did was I took this opportunity to teach myself how to do something else and I brought my little lovelier. Mike that's what I'm recording in to download an APP to my phone that is specifically for people who are on the go recording podcasts downloaded downloaded another APP to mix down the Audio and Im- exported to an MP three and then I'm going to upload it to my provider in put this sucker out out there and this is going to be a little bit longer but I'm going to bring you our trip and because we're outdoors in this outdoor go. I'm going to bring a little bit to you every day and so instead of doing one long ass podcast for the week and one long ass podcast for next week. I'm going to bring you a series of short ones. I'm shooting for every day. I'm shooting for like ten or fifteen minutes a day but you know depending on where we are. We're going to be in some pretty remote places fishing and being outside camping so I may not always be able to do it every day. I'm also going going to be updating the instagram with lots of photos and videos so make sure you go to instagram you. Don't have an instagram account get wine. find us on instagram. Just look outdoor scoped follow us on instagram and you'll have access to all this stuff if you're on facebook only and you don't WanNa do instagram go find me on on facebook just search for outdoor scope our ad outdoor scoped and you'll find a stair like us on facebook and you'll get all these videos and everything else that I put it out lots of good stuff. It also sounds weird right now because I'm sitting in our suburban recording this because trying to do it in a hotel room with a bunch of kids would be crazy and I don't have an office here so completely out of my element. I'm in Moab Utah Right now. We just got back from going to you arches national park which is freaking cool. I mean I knew that place was cool. I've seen pictures of it. My whole life and I couldn't wait to go visit it and we went today and I mean there's so many arches in that park week we had time to go really kind of explore one and if you go to the Instagram you'll see some photos of us at the arches and also a video of four hours but it took to get us from Texas to Utah we left the house yesterday I I left after work. I think we left it like three something. I can't three thirty something like that and we drove through the night faith and I drove in shifts. She took the I won while I worked and slept and then I I drove through the night I started about one. Am and I took the one am to about. I don't know eight something shift gift and then she took over and then I took over and then we made it here to Moab and it's pretty cool here. This is a neat neat little little town. The Colorado River runs right past the town. arches national park is right outside. There's I mean if you know anything about MOAB. It's like the place place to go for extreme jeep ing ATV being you know all that kind of stuff mountain biking you you know again the Colorado River's right there you can fish in it. You can kayak down it or canoe down it or raft down it or whatever this is a this is a place for outdoorsy folks. I I mean it's it is a cool place. It's hot here when we got here today. It was in the nineties up here in Utah in the nineties. We're going to be in Montana Tomorrow Morrogh afternoon and we'll be much much colder than that but anyways so the computer's broken. It's being fixed. That's why we're doing everything in different. I was going to have Kelly van meter on this week. We talked about her fitness journey. She lost seventy five pounds in a year doing cross bit boot camp type stuff doing ruck with us. She and her team were the number one in the female heavy civilian. They won that division at Bataan March seventeenth of this year Saint Patrick's Day so she's got a lot to talk about and her husband's a taxidermist she loves to fish or in laws were big hunters and so it's a great interview I really enjoyed it and then after that I got Mike Wagner who's going to be a He He is a first responder as a first responder for Damn near Twenty twenty years and we we talk about rescue situations and what do you do when somebody intentionally put themselves in harm's way to go have fun or to the challenge themselves and winds up in that situation where they need to be rescued. How do we handle those situations as a first responder specifically what what prompted that discussion discussion was the whole thing and twelve people have died on Everest already this year and you know you can't say people on ever? It's damn near impossible. They will die right in front of people that are standing right there with them because they don't have the means or the strength or the air or the time because they've got to get out of the death zone to save these these people so we talk about that and then my surprise interview I interviewed Brandon Writer Singer songwriters been around four ever is music's all over the Internet ed he's got a live at Billy Bob's album east toured all over the place. He's got nine studio albums out to live albums something else as I can't remember what it is. dude is as down to Earth as they come loves to haunt loves to fish loves to cook while game and we talked for an hour and a half and it it felt like a blink of an eye and we talked about a lot of his music too and we talked about how he comes up with some of his music and his songs and so it was a great interview recorded it over the phone because he's in Salako so you know is about two and a half hours between us but he said he wanted to get together and go ahead and do you a a studio podcast and play some songs for use GOPI so that that'll be cool. That'll be coming up in the future here so that'll be the next three episodes once I get back from my trip but until then like I said we're GonNa do this. I'M GONNA come on for a few minutes a day and download the trip so let's let's start on that so like I said we left at three yesterday. Drove through the night we got here and got into Moab. I've kind of describe that town a little bit for you. and we went to we went to arches and it was retaken cool. well you know let me back up a step. Let's talk about the hell that is road tripping. I mean it's awesome. I love it. I wouldn't and change it for the world. I love my kids. Love my wife and we we love this. We do this every year. We go on a long road trip Tori. We all get sick of each other but it is the is the best time for us. This is what life is about. This is what it's about is this type of stuff and we drove love through the night and I can't tell you how hard that is if you've never driven through the night and I mean driven through the night there's no stop in for a a nap or anything like that. I drove from one. Am until eight am and it is like you find out what you're made of and people say oh that's dangerous. You know look when I get tired and when I finally got to the point where I couldn't drive anymore I told faith I said I can't drive. You'RE GONNA have to drive or we're going to have to stop and take a break and we did. We stopped and we took a break in you know I slept for about forty minutes in and then we hit the road again but I'm GonNa play a little bit audio for you. throughout this podcast of of what it's like to be in a car with five kids who've been in the car for almost a thousand miles and what sort of bullshit starts to come out of everybody's mouths and who hates who and who forwarded an who is a total freaking idiot and who hate to who wishes so and so what die and Jesus seizes it is terrible traveling with kids could be the worst or the best time of your life and and sometimes you really don't know which one is you really don't know and we know we've got a fifteen thirteen at twelve ten and a four I it's like it's like the the worst recipe in the world for a disaster the freaking car oh man Dan just a mess just an absolute mess I I just keep trying to think of things that that happened and it was just I'm so tired. I'm I'm just brain dead you know but we had some really good laughs. you know he gets point where you've listened to your music like you might have hours and hours and hours but you but you get your point where you don't want to hear one more damn song on your phone. You don't WanNa hear you you start listening to podcasts or whatever and you get to a point where you're like. I just can't listen to anything anymore so then you try to talk. We'll for me during the middle of the night. There was a point where everybody was asleep. you know I had nobody to talk to so just the radio in me or or the podcast me or whatever but you know but then when everybody's Lake sometimes you've got Scott. I wish everybody would fall asleep. Show is the only one a week because everybody would just shut the hell up but that that was interesting but today we once we got settled in. We went to lunch. We had lunch at a really good place. It's called the Moab brewery so if you ever come to Moab you ever come to Utah and you WanNa Go Arches National Park. Are you WANNA come out here. In Moab or whatever you gotta go to the MOAB raring they have awesome food and yeah I had a great Greek Salad and trying to a little bit of late in because I've been doing very well back in the gym lately so I'm trying to use his vacation to kind of springboard me back into shape 'cause it's. It's not a it's not a lazy lay around drink vacation nation. This is a very active. Let's go fishing. Let's go hiking vacation so it should be a good time for me to get my bad ass back gear but they had a great they had great food the kids I loved it haven't drink the beer yet. I think we're going to get some to go tomorrow because I do after driving through the night if I drank today I'd it'd be a worthless frigging piece of crap human being and I didn't want to be worthless. I wanted to be able to help out and I wanted to be able to enjoy this time with the kids but we did that and then hung out a little bit don't we went to arches and I I firmly thoroughly suggests that if you go to arches during the summer it's this June right now and it was pretty damn hot. You're going to have to make plan to go out and see them in the morning or in the in the evening because during the day it's it's just hot. There's no shade it's Super Hot but it is pock in beautiful I mean it is those rock formations and those arches and the tunnels and sandstone it. It's it's amazing. I mean I've seen pictures all my life but I've never actually seen those arches arches oppose when you stand under one. You're looking up at that thing. It's impressive. It is freaking cool. it's huge. It's so much bigger than you think they are and I took some P- to try to get some perspective but when you stand under and you look at it holy leash it that's pretty awesome the other thing I did and I wanted to share this with you. You know you take picks with cell phones and you can get some decent photos but you know when you see landscape photos. Most of those photos have been taken of landscapes with a Wide Angle Camera Lens and what that does is basically like I I said it's a wider angle and it brings so much more of the landscape into the viewfinder so I've always I told myself I'm GonNa get my we have thirty five well. It's a digital hope single lens reflex thirty five millimeter camera and I've always said I'm going to get good lenses for well good lenses for that I mean they're they're super super expensive and a good wide angle lenses easily a thousand dollars. You can get one for cheaper but it's just not going to be that great and a really good one is going to be a north of two or three thousand dollars so I was reading into it before and I was like you know what I'm just going to get get a wide angle lens from my cell phone you just clip it on your your camera and on your cell phone on the camera hole and it gives you a wide angle and so I bought two different ones they were about thirty bucks a piece one is a a nozzle Laya Bone Lynn's It's it's spelled A. N. Z. A. L. A. Angelina Finland's and then the other one is an Amir A. M. I R. Our borderlands. I haven't used both of them enough to really be able to tell you which one I liked the most in you know ah definitively but I can say that I think being as Elliot performs a little better I I you know it comes better packaging. It's got a little bit better presentation presentation. It seems to be constructed a little more sturdier. I don't know about the glass but I do know that when I use the Amir as a little bit more of a fish I affect and some fuzziness around the edges what I use the an as Leah. I don't notice that as much I I really we don't hardly any fuzziness and then in the pictures. I don't really see the fish I affect at all so I'm gonNA keep taking photos. You can see them on instagram and facebook. You can tell what what I'm talking about. you you capture so much more of a landscape so if you're interested in that check that out and if if I had to tell you right now of which I really don't want to but if I had to say right now which one to buy it because I think it's a I think it's a really really good volume in the Amir's not bad I mean it got good reviews too but just between the two of them I think in Assaliya kind of takes the cake a little bit but arches was really cool tomorrow. So we hit the road in the morning or heading up to Salt Lake my wife was Mormon when I met her Yeah Mormon and I was Catholic and we were like well. What the hell are? We supposed to do now so needless to say I'm no longer Catholic. She's no longer than but it's always been a dream of hers to see Um the Great Salt Lake and Sea Salt Lake City and drive past the temple and stuff like that so we're GonNa go do that tomorrow. Pro On our way up to the the next place we're going to be camping for a long period of time as Swan Lake which is not too far from glacier national park in northern Montana and be cold up there but we're looking forward to it. We're GONNA be doing some fly fishing over there and the Swan Lake area and on the way up we have two nights that we've got to find something to do so we may hit grantee tons and see if we can get a first-come-first-serve site there which would be pretty bitching and then after that we're going to yellowstone so I'm GonNa keep you in the loop if we catch fish that. Are you know worth putting that we'll put them on instagram. We see a bear. We see you know Buffalo Moose or whatever it is that we might see. WE'RE GONNA share it with you. got I'd love to see a bare black Brown Brown and some wolves man I would love to frequency that that would be bad ass we saw Moose faith and I saw Moose and Estes National Park Occur Rocky Mountain National Park outside s apart back in April in that was like banana got my heart racing because we were fly fishing. The Big Thompson river in up watts out walks. Is this move. It's on the instagram you can go look at it from a post back in April but so to see a bear or a wolf or you know a big moose or something like that not it's awesome that'd be awesome but we'll keep you updated on all of that and daddy was something I'm going to tell you. I don't remember what it was. I don't remember I wish I could tell you I really do I just I think that I just got into this trance like I was in this fuck entrance this morning because I've been driving through the night and you know doing doing whatever I could. I'd I'd stop every couple hours. Get a cup of coffee. get some snacks something to eat to try and just you know even the monotony from putting me to sleep and luckily the traffic wasn't bad at all and it was nighttime and we're out and BFE so that wasn't an issue. traffic wasn't bad but you know it's night night driving by herself. You can go to a weird weird place. You start thinking about shit that realize you're thinking about you know and the next thing you know you're like doc you're on Mars. You know you're just you're just in a different world and personal faith a worry war is she's constantly like a okay okay. Do I need to drive drive. Only no go to sleep. I'm driving so that you can sleep but if you've never done if you've never done that you know and you can do it safely early to where you know. You've got a good system and you know a your eyes. Get heavy at all you pull over. You know we'll sleep before somebody gets hurt. Are you know we'll lose time. That's fine but if you could get get with somebody who can do that with you as a team. Check it out man. Try Try through the night ladies. You can do it if you haven't before it's pretty fucking cool. It really is and in E- get to that next day when we were leaving the bark this afternoon or this evening the boys were like I can't I believe that just a little over twenty four hours ago we were at home and now we're walking around in Arches National Park and Moab Utah outside outside of Moab Utah over a thousand miles away from home and I was kind of like well. That's what happens when you leave and you drive through the night it. It's like you go. Oh through this Kinda freaky time war. You know it's like psychedelic. You're in this time-warp in it. You Know Your Circadian Rhythm is off because your up through the night and you're sleeping during the day so if throws all at Shit off and circadian rhythms are really important you no you don't you don't WanNa Jack Around with your circadian rhythms because then you're GonNa wind up you know maybe going a little crazy and pulling a knife on somebody or attacking somebody in an alley outside of a subway or academy and I'm doing bad things to a person so you WanNa be careful with your your circadian rhythms but you know it kind of puts you in that like psychedelic place and if you listened I was listening to some stuff I just kind of out there you know and it was kind of cool. It was like being on drugs but not being on drugs at all not having any kind of adults rent except for Caffeine Fina my system and feeling like I was Kinda like I dunno silicon natural highs Kinda just storm weird weird escape escape but anyways that's going to be at today. I'll be back tomorrow. I'm at twenty four minutes so it's a little longer than I thought but we'll come back at you tomorrow. Ro shouldn't have a problem putting up another pod tomorrow because I think we're going to be really going to be in a hotel again or and be camping somewhere where it's not going to be a problem for me to together in the todd but I love you guys. I'm so glad that you guys and Gals have join me or up so twenty any and what we're GONNA do is. I'm just GONNA call this week. Episode Twenty a twenty B C so however many I put out for the next seven days that's that's episode twenty. ABCD whatever and then the next week episode twenty one ABCD whoever whoever and then I'll bring back to Kelly and Mike and Brandon's interviews interviews whenever I get my laptop back repaired so that I can start producing the studio quality stuff again as opposed to this on on the road type stuff which is still pretty cool that I have technology at my fingertips. If you're a podcast her I mean at at my fingertips with this lab Mike that's plugged into my phone and I can't monitor it with my headphones right now but I you know I did all my sound before I got on my level set. Just you know talking and I got the lab might kind of hanging in front of me from the Sun visor and this this program that I'm using his called backpack. It's for recording podcasts on the go. It's got a mixer with a real time retail analysis on whether peaking or you know my levels and stuff like that in which you can change all those levels in input and then there's another thing called twisted twisted something that downloaded to E. Q. The sound and mix it down and converted to an MP three so that I can put it up in my provider which is blueberry and then put it on my website so it's it's pretty pretty freaking cool but in the poem my hand I've got my studio. You know anyhow. I'll come back at you tomorrow like I said I love you guys. Thanks so much for stop it in and joining us and until tomorrow keep your powder dry and we'll catch you on the

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205 - Skinwalker Ranch

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

2:05:54 hr | 3 months ago

205 - Skinwalker Ranch

"Skin Walker ranch, an innocent seeming five hundred and twelve acre parcel of land about one hundred, fifty miles southeast of salt, Lake City Utah innocent seeming if you don't know anything about the decades of strange ufo sightings, encrypted encounters that have been reported to happen on or around the ranch in the words of George? KNAPP longtime investigative journalists and regular co host of the famed UFO's. Coast to coast, it's been the site of simply an unbelievable amount of paranormal activity. UFO's sasquatch cattle, mutilations, psychic manifestations you name it residents here have seen it people have even seen butterflies dogs at skin Walker ranch, and if you don't know what butter is means you will by the end of this, suck this is a strange story meets sacks from the early Navajo legends of the Skin Walker to ghost dinosaurs to big foot's portals opened up in the sky. There's very little skin Walker ranch hasn't seen in terms of the paranormal and the extraterrestrial numerous reports of UFO's from all around the area. Date back to at least nineteen thirties. This isn't a tale of one isolated encounter. It's a tale of multiple close sidings witness by one group of people. After another allegedly, there've been so many reported extraterrestrial sightings over the years that the US Department of Defense even dedicated millions of dollars to investigate UFO's partly motivated by skin Walker ranch activity, a lot of people people, list billionaires, government investigators, military leaders, even Senator Senator, or to among them at one point or another have been very interested in the numerous alleged paranormal events that have happened around skin Walker ranch, they stories anything but simple or straightforward. Is it all just an elaborate hoax something keep people interested in large piece of desert in the middle of nowhere stories told sell books and TV shows or is that exactly what the aluminum they want you to think wake up shapal. Excited to dig into today's cryptic filled paranormal investigating extraterrestrial there sure is a lot of weird shit going on down in one remote place edition of time. Suck. This is Michael McDonald and you're listening to. Heavy Monday meets acts welcome to or welcome back to the Colts Curious Hill Nimrod. Loose. Athena. Praised bojangles and glory beat triple in I'm Dan Komen to suck master. Moustachioed. Musketeer Thorn an undead Roy Disney site skin Walker Walker and you're listening to time sick. A recording here in the suck dungeon CD descript keeper, the Reverend Dr, the art warlock, and the bad magic baroness all in studio at different points today the Queen a badge down riggins Idaho with the kids my Fam- joining them soon for pop awards birthday bash eight years young eight year strong. Still making the devil wait before moves onto the next plane kicks that boogeyman right in Dick. Still. Getting up everyday and getting shit done hail pop award. Got To new tees in the store bad magic merch, dot com and Logan Keith resident art warlock did not design them their fan artistes and they look amazing Max Lazzaro will ex you guys killed it things for more fantastic art Max. Hope all is well with you in Belarus at Max, Lacerra underscore on I g that's. X. L.. A. R. A. You underscore art and will cannot wait to get back into your studio and get some more ink wants all this craziness is over. 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Day. before we head into the show I just WanNa say if you're wondering how today's Info compares to the history channel, show the secret of Skin Walker ranch I have no idea a while I am a history lover, not a lover of most of the history channel's programming vikings that shows a home run to me. Let's not supposed to be totally historically accurate. It's you know it's a scripted show. It's a scripted drama if the secret of skin, Walker ranch's anything like say the curse of Oak Island. Then, it's not worth a shit might bean and I'm not gonNA waste my time on it. Once the History Channel went full ancient aliens they lost factual credibility with me entertaining yes credible. No. Okay I just felt compelled to give that preface. Now's Kim Weird. Today, we are sucking, of course, Skin Walker ranch. A spaces are chosen topic. Thank you space lizards this. Can Be Fun one it's been. It's been fun to go over a massive property sprawls over four, hundred, eighty, four, hundred, eighty acres of northern Utah and region known as the Utah Basin Skin. Walker ranch is also known as the Gorman ranch, the Sherman ranch, the Adamantine Skin Walker ranch in sometimes referred to as one of Satan's nonprofits to hell. Why are there nine gates maybe because Dante once wrote about nine circles, not sure to ask the devil directly. So grab a Ouija Board and Best Luck. Skin Walker ranch first came to national attention in the mid nineties nineteen nineties when the sheriff who had purchased the ranch in Nineteen ninety-four shared some stories with the media some found credible and many others found get the fuck out a air come on. if you just believe in the possibility of the paranormal, a good chunk of today, suck. Most of it is going to elicit the outcome on reaction. I think still going to be very entertaining. If you do believe in the paranormal, say suck still might garner that reaction in several moments probably will even for ufo encrypted believers. Some of the accounts I'm going to share with you guys pretty hard to accept and I'm glad if nothing else he stories are entertaining health. Just, some of them are real. Just one of them is real holy Shit. There is so much more about the universe we still don't know about. so much going on here on earth we still don't know about you know as far as what proven. As crazy as the Sherman's claims are some scientists at least some people with science ish backgrounds working for a sci Fi sounding organization do believe him most of our sucks storage they will be told to time line I'll be honest. A lot of information comes from pretty fringy sources. Much suck is based on accounts found in four books the skin Walker ranch by Konrad Bauer the hunt for the skin walker by. COMB. Killer her and George KNAPP. Lost on skin. Walker ranch by Eric Vets and no trespassing by Ryan skinner and Wallace. We did use a lot of other sources sources. You can find in the episode script on the time suck website and APP, just not as many as normal it's just not that kind of subject. before we jump into the timeline, let me tell you a little bit about the area where skin what skin Walker ranch sits. Of, the ranch is located on approximately five hundred and twelve acres ten mile drive southeast. Of Ballard, city Utah only about five miles as the crow flies and just over one hundred, fifty miles southeast of Salt Lake City. But a thousand people live in Ballard and maybe if I went there, I'd feel differently but seems like. My kind of shuttle I've never been there. I've never been there, but the photos online gotta say, don't exactly inspire me to WANNA head on over there. Doesn't seem to be a lot on a ballot. There's a top stop convenience store and that's About it. It's more of a small suburb to the larger town of Roosevelt home to around seven thousand people. Roosevelt gives me a real a lot of trucks and cowboy hats vibe. Place probably heavy cattle ranch talk low on museum and theatre. Talk a lot of lot of F. Three fifty in dodge Ram's a diesel but a decent Roosevelt's not a lot of tasteless I. Get it a group in a place very similar. Roosevelt. Maybe. Also not wanna live, but they do have a little caesars pizza. Okay and Cooler Looking Burger spot called the round robin in a and Marian variety plays. We can get a solid barbecue burger French fries, cream sodas and cheese and listen. There's not a lot going on in Roosevelt or Ballard or Fort Duchenne another little seven, hundred person dusty town and headquarters of the. Ute Indian tribe listen ten miles away not a lot happening outside of strange sightings in this area. The whole area around this can walk ranch pretty rural, remote and quiet. That's part of the spookiest to me of today story. The rural setting makes it more mysterious all these little line not off of the interstate but off of a lonely little US highway one, ninety one. The entire area also rest inside the vast Utah and you're a American Indian reservation homeland of the you tribe. almost sixty, eight, hundred square sparsely populated miles. Also before I move on Skin Walker ranch is five, hundred, twelve acres. The Disneyland resort we talked about last week five, hundred, ten acres. Almost the exact same size coincidence. Or does the possibly reanimated corpse if none other than Roy mattress side, Disney have something to do with today's mysterious shenanigans. Makes one wonder. the rain around the region. Excuse me around the ranch is nestled in the U. and Ta Basin Bordeaux bordered by the Utah Mountains the Tom Mountains hundred fifty miles long. Range of the rockies highest mountain range in the lower forty eight states they extend from Hebron valley on the West to Cross Mountain in Colorado to the east. You and toss contains some of the highest mountain peaks in the state with kings peak being the top pile of old rocks shooting up to thirteen thousand, five, hundred, twenty feet above sea level. During, the Pleistocene era, the Utah's were covered by glaciers when the glaciers melted, they created lakes lakes some the larger northeastern. Utah Lake serves important reservoirs for the wasatch front metropolitan region in the north central part of Utah. The wasatch front consists of a chain of cities and towns that stretch from Ni fi in the south to Brigham City in the north. Roughly eighty percent of Utah's population resides in this region contains major cities, Salt Lake City Provo Ogden. Utah base in the place where skin walker ran sits again, lies south of the UTAH. Mountains the central portion of the base and has an elevation of five thousand to fifty five hundred feet just about a mile above sea level. And Skin, Walker ranch sits in a very flat part of this massive basin. Nearby. Little Nine Mile Long Dry Gulch creek provides most of the ranch's irrigation water ridge line directly behind skywalker ranch is known as where Wolf Ridge why who knows because as people had a bunch of were wolves run around there one point seems fitting. Local, say the actual reasons lost to history. Okay now that we have a little bit of lay of the land. Let's head to the beginning of the skin walker, ranch story by diving headfirst into this week's alien encrypted filled time suck timeline. Shrimp on those boots. Soldier were marching down a time suck time line. Twelve thousand B C that's when we think the first people who may have already been contacting skin walkers moved into the area where the ranch now sits at least to Paleo Indian cultural sites dating back between twelve thousand, eighty, five, hundred BC have been located in the US. Basin. These people primarily hunted mammoth bison other big game may be some skin walkers hunted them. We don't know. During the archaic period of eighty, five, hundred BC to five, hundred, BC. The basin was occupied by plateau or cake people people composed of various groups, tribes, and bands most of which no one knows a whole hell of a lot about. People, who gatherers one of these early groups of people were the Fremont people a people whose culture predates the areas Navajo and you'd People's. The Fremont people begin to incorporate farming into their hunter gatherer lifestyles spent they had to stay put tend the crops. So the people of the Fremont Culture began to live in semi subterranean shelters called Kivus. Enterprise Anthropologists. Archaeologists have theorized that the Fremont people social structure was likely composed of small loosely organized band consisting of several families along with Keita's the Fremont. People's also create clothing pottery and paintings, and they may have left behind the first documented portrayal of skin walkers. Some Fremont People Petroglyphs were found rock art some rock depicting to upright figures with rectangular upper bodies and extended arms. The figure in the center of the drawings has what appears to be the ears of a canine while they figure to the right their ears noticeably absent archaeologist later, name these engravings the Buckhorn draw pictographs panel and they're located in the San Rafael. Swell in central Utah One hundred and eighty four miles from skin Walker ranch and easy ravings and other Fremont pictographs I gotta say the are pretty creepy. They're pretty eerie. the figures drawn definitely humanoid but they also don't look human and it looks like the artist was capable of drawing a human if they wanted to I mean they're they're really cool. Drawings are cool carvings engravings. Paintings everyone I've call it but they don't look. They don't look like humans and this has led some to think that not all the figures drawn are supposed to be humans something they're supposed to be skin walkers. I should probably tell you what a skin walker is. Now, we briefly discusses creature in the to go suck and I covered a lot of Info. In the skin walkers episode of scared to death for creeps in peepers over there If you haven't heard of either of those podcast episodes, here's a little refresher. Skin Walker is a creature that a can walk can walk her super go walking. I cannot stress that enough like you might think you walk good and maybe you know maybe you do I don't know you maybe it's been a long time. So you stumbled maybe some along you know several years I don't know since you were swapping and just kind of fell down randomly and so you think I walk really good why I've got news for you cocky look how good I walk skin walkers walked better. That's one thing and beat. They have a lot of skin someone say too much. You know their skin is thicker than your skin is looser like a shar-pei or a pug or a mastiff or maybe like a Basset Hound. So there you go it's pretty much yet. They walk good and they have you know quite a bit skin. Moving on. A disappointing, incredibly vague unsatisfying description that'd be That's the kind of description that someone like Roy head of the illuminated Disney would right now me. Let me start over. Many tribes of the American southwest hell legends of the skin. Walker these stories seem to originate in the legends oral history of the Navajo tribe so we'll go with the Navajo description. Skin walkers been translated from Navajo. Word that translates to by means of it. It goes on all fours the Navajo Skin? Walker is essentially the opposite of a medicine man someone who uses their magical powers for healing with the medicine man the skin walker uses their their magical powers for for bad for bad stuff skin walker someone who broke Navajo Cultural Taboos. So significantly, they became a little monster very similar in this respect to original Wendy Galore. Walker someone who wants pursued the healing arts. But at some point were lured by black magic in the art of making others ill to satiate their blood lust and hunger. Kinda like Darth, Vader Darth, vader they realized the power of the dark side the women's The fucking emperor stepped out of the light and into the darkness. Most, often a man but at times a woman child, the skin Walker really type of a of a witch has the ability to transform into an animal, usually a bear wolf or eagle as it suits them. Once in animal form, the skin walker attains a skills and attributes of that animal but heightened to a supernatural level, they're better hearing better eyesight probably bigger weans and balls and vaginas I dunno and according to most legends the ability to travel by supernatural means. This nightmare of a beast is often described as very tall with glowing red eyes sharp teeth. A. Person Becomes his hideous creature. Again, when they commit the worst of deeds, you know you know the the some go against some huge cultural taboo like killing a sibling killing another family member Then they surrendered their humanity Super Wendy. Go ask in this respect something. These two cryptos are actually the same creature once transformed into beast form a skin walkers. Bloodlust intensifies increases unable to enter the homes of its victims. For some magical reason this can walker will mimic voices of children are loved ones to lure victims outside to attack them and feast upon them. According to legend Skin Walker can even possess a person invading their mind to drive them to insanity or violence. They've all kinds of creepy powers that vary a little from telling. If. They're the real. You Never WanNA encounter one. You're never gonNA leave a skin. Walker encounter. Thank you. Super Cool. Nice. Friendly not threatening at all can walker. I can't wait Seattle skin water again. Fun Little. Creature Wall in human form said that Skin Walker can be recognized by their animal like is and twitchy mannerisms. Another part of the Skin Walker legend that I do not believe I mentioned before on any podcast episode is believed that if an intended victim sees a skin walkers face and can identify the earthly man or woman who is transformed into a monstrous witch, the human must be killed or the skin walker will die themselves. So a skin walker who thinks they've been recognized will return to kill the one they think can identify them according to this. Part of the lore once you spotted a skin walker, it's simply a matter of time before you right or you kill it. So using some deductive reasoning here, it's obviously best to immediately kill anyone you. You think just might be skin walker I mean right come on just to be safe if anyone seems just a little twitchy or animal ish or smells maybe kind of Musky or or suddenly makes a sound that you could interpret as as a bestial growl or bark or howl some kind or maybe even like the call of a bird of prey. Oh. You gotta you gotTa fucking put them down to put them in right now. Wake up idiot she were them. There isn't a jury on Earth Who's GonNa convict if you just tell them yeah. Sure. Now understand Bob was not logger. It was in fact, just a normal high school, English teacher clearness throat while thrown down a bacon cheeseburger Carl's junior during his lunch break. But at the time I felt like my life was in danger we looked at me he gave me a real kind of timber wolves fucking skills survive. Of course, I'm kidding you you know that right? If you thought I wasn't kidding and you were prepared to start killing to push poss and I want you to please setup accounting appoint immediately I'm worried about you. We all are we're all worried about you your your family's worried worried Tell me WanNa talk someone because you almost started killing strangers. The thought might be skin walkers. Back, the timeline. From. Thirteen nine, hundred eight to the beginning of a European arrival in the world the Utah Basin was occupied primarily. By the you'd the pilot and the schone each having arrived as early as one thousand see each tribe would eventually develop their own skin walker related lore. On July twenty, nine, th seventeen, seventy six, quite a bit ahead. Now, the first white man to set foot in the Utah Basin were Franciscan members of a small Spanish expedition from Santa Fe headed by Sylvester, Villa's desk. And Francisco and to Nausea Dominguez. These intrepid explorers and priests open the Utah Basin and the eastern portion of the great basin to Spanish later, Mexican American and British fur trappers and traders. With arrival of the Spaniards in the new world do you introduced the horse which they initially viewed as little more than a large dog? I love it. You imagine what the first tribe members were thinking when they sell these horses. Right when they're frame references dogs thinking that they were just big dogs. They had dogs derived from like wolves and coyotes dogs no more than maybe hundred thirty pounds all of a sudden. He's seven, hundred, eight, hundred, pound horse talk show up. In head just like damn. As a big dog. Super Long neck hair. The hell he's guys feed these things really feed that dog other dogs what the fuck is going on Soon, the you would obtain horses of their own and trade with Spaniards earned a ride. Them ultimately used the animals to conduct raids on Navajo villages and against other tribes in the region. They didn't battle with the Spaniards because the Spaniards never created much of a settlement presence on their lands. The primary objective of the the raids the went on using their new horses with slave trading. The US brought or brought Navajo prisoner south in New Mexico to be sold or traded, and this is when the legend of the Skin Walker makes his way into you lor around this time the oral history begins to describe being attacked by skin walkers monster tour once people driven to the brink of their sanity the you believe that the skin walkers Navajos revenge for their slave trading rates. Between the late eighteen, twenty s and eighteen forty. Whitey he shows up tries to stay. To semi permanent. Trading Post established in the base in Fort Row Arrojo. Rubidoux, sometimes referred as you and ta or Fort Windy that lasted until eight, hundred, forty four. Not, a lot of pronunciation guides on this fort. His don't give a shit about it the it didn't last very long these burned down. It's copiers after. was built There was also a Fort Kit Carson founded in eighteen thirty three also didn't last long gone by the next year. Do you have beaten after lands for the most part, but they'd soon be back and this time to stay. In the early nineteen. Nineteen in early eighteen sixties Brigham young that'd be awesome. They showed up in the nineteen sixties would a very different story that would be if this we found this land and that's already there's a lot of people here. Okay. A lot of cities and stuff early eighteen, sixty s brigham young. You may recall his pretty famous name from the mormonism suck or too small expedition to the UN Ta Basin to determine the area was suitable for Mormon. Settlement. Upon the expedition's return, Salt Lake City's desert news established way back in eighteen fifty published an article stating that the expedition found little there and the basin was quote vast vast. Continue Contiguity of waste valueless accepting for nomadic purposes, hunting grounds for Indians and to hold the world together. I. Like those last five words. Brigham is the land good for settlement no the land is good for nothing mold to. Hold the world together the land is little better than a barren void where one could step off the earth descend into a featureless lifeless pit of nothingness. It is better than that but not by much. On eight hundred sixty, one Abraham Lincoln never heard of him set aside most of the Utah Basin for American Indian reservation. I think he is president. was until the late eighteen sixties that most of the youths resided in Utah Valley and areas south were relocated to the reservation following increased levels of hostility between natives and white settlers. The beginning in the early years of the eighteen seventies, ranchers and other whites Indian reservation began filtered into Ashley Valley only thirty miles east of skin Walker ranch in area that served as an excellent summer feeding grounds for herds of cattle. Damn Whitey move moves a native to a different reservation that moves into that reservation decade. Later the relationship between the American Indians in the Utah Territory in the Mormon settlers were was complicated. As Mormons began to expand their settlements throughout the rest of the territory and onto more and more native land only got more difficult and by difficult, I mean the local tribes which the Mormon settlers would fuck off never come back and the Mormon sellers like no I want to get. In eighteen ninety eight after variety of skirmishes between white settlers and tribes after few small reservations have been established in the area another reservation the income padre. Indian. Reservation was open to both miners and settlers eighteen, ninety eight. I already said he's ninety, but it has to make sure You can pomeranian reservation became more commonly known as the euro reservation, which would eventually merged with the UN Ta Valley Reservation which being created back in eighteen sixty one and this new reservation is now called the vast Utah. You're American Indian reservation that I mentioned earlier as the areas surrounding can walk a ranch. This is where things start to get real strange pair normally. eight, Ninety, eight Congress designates seven thousand acres of land is public domain and by doing. So the inadvertently exempt that land from any official control or law enforcement as results, saloons and brothels spring up their customers consists mainly of outlaws, miners, and soldiers from nearby Fort Duchenne. In the evenings, the soldiers returned to the Ford drunk and do fit around the often passed by a ravine where they would throw their empty whiskey bottles. So many bottles thrown in this ravine over a period of several years it earns the name of bottle hollow. And the bottle hollow ravine is now covered mostly by water from a nearby reservoir called not surprisingly bottle. Hollow Reservoir. And the US, believe that bottle hollow reservoir is inhabited by many large aquatic monster snakes like really big cryptic crafted large snakes. Fuck Ya Second Mazar to be mentioned this time we get skin walkers and we got giant water snakes roaming around this suck and we're just getting started. To this day, people continue to claim witnessed strange shapes crawling around in the reservoir especially near the marina if you if you hate being attacked like if you really hate being attacked by monster snakes, then you want to avoid swimming near the marina most of all that reservoir. According to tribal police officers in inordinate number of drowning cases occur in the reservoir. Dam. Snakes. Or dealing with a giant water snake epidemic. Everyone's worried about covid. What about the Goddamn Monster Water Snakes and Utah. Or if he's going to keep pretend that they're not eating people that they're not eating the children what about children? Does anyone care about children anymore. I'm Donna. Numerous witnesses have reported strange different colored lights going in and coming out of the water or those not sure. Maybe, some of the giant snakes a maybe they light up you know maybe some of them have teeny tiny little t rex snake arms and he'll little flashlights because they're scared of the reservoirs murky depths I don't know I'm just spitballing. Seven years after public domain status is given to seven thousand acres around bottle bottle hollow reservoir in August, nineteen o five thousands of potential homesteaders rushed Grand Junction Colorado into vernal price in PROVO UTAH. To Register for a land join that would grant one hundred and sixty acres to any male settler. Only a fraction of the people who register actually take up the settlements. Two of the settlers who did take settlements John and Emma Myers build a small homestead in the property that will become skin. Walker ranch. Don. Don. Don here we go. We've made it to the ranch the property was located along the southern border of the Utah and your American Indian reservation east of the Duchenne Utah County border nearest landmark was bottle hollow reservoir directly north of the ranch glow snake. Lake. North of the property was large expansive elevated land primarily rocking stone outcroppings and at least two small caves and a burial. Mansa. A burial mound Mason Spooky it's nice and spooky place. The same year family called the locks moved to the west side of what will eventually become skin Walker ranch. And from nineteen O six, nine, hundred eleven these I skin walker settlers the Myers claim to hear underground rumblings, explosions day and night around the ranch. Never could determine that the source of these noises couldn't find anything amiss on the land never saw anything they get tribute to noises to a journalist later speculated that the noises could be chalked up to simply the slipping of one layer of rocks over another at some place along the Utah Fault. Okay. Maybe or maybe rumblings from an underground, your city type skin walker layer or that. Or snake tunnels giant water snake tunnels in the summer of nineteen o nine about forty five miles east of Skin Walker ranch near Jensen Utah a famous dinosaur quarry is I discovered by Geologists Earl Douglas of the Carnegie Museum. That was monster. Snakes are dinosaurs. Are we dealing with a some kind? Of Loch ness monster leftover ancient creature type situation. Thousands of fossils would be unearthed at the site adding to the uniqueness of this area. Adding further to this uniqueness and nineteen fifteen super weird visitor shows up on the lock families. Side of the ranch do shows up out of nowhere asked the family for a glass of water he shows up with no horse no means of transportation nothing. Shows up in the middle of the high desert alone asking for a glass of water making his odd visit weirder. The homesteaders noticed that beneath his totally normal for the time period kind of clothing. He's wearing a not normal for the time period Blue Sparkley outfit. The stands out the Locke family because in rural nine Hundred Fifteen Utah not allow dudes one around the desert alone where in blue spark the undershirts. Some, hard core ufo theorists have come to refer to this guy as the traveler as in the time traveller apparently had a lengthy conversation with the family and then just kind of walked off and disappeared forever. But before he left the traveller told the locks where not to dig on their property then he leaves. What in the hell is this guy mentally ill? Yeah probably maybe. whatever you dealing with strange strange encounter very strange encounter. Can you match someone showed up at your door ask for a glass of water then pointed to some patchy yard and was like don't ever dig there. You can dig over here they go. They're closer to the road. But here. Just to the left Ponderosa Pine whole Sir don't you ever dig their? Much obliged for the water I must be off. Nineteen thirty the first cattle mutilation occurs in the ranch that would years later become infamously linked with a ton of additional cattle mutilations Christopher Locke grandson of some original lock settlers discovers a mangled cow on property. Nineteen thirty three Kenneth Anita's Myers the son and daughter-in-law of Skin Walker Ranch homesteaders, John and Emma by trailer move onto the east side of the property. The locks descendants still live on the west side. Even though up until this point in the ranch's history, there have been no recorded sightings of supernatural creatures aliens other than that Weird Shiny Blue Shirt guy. Who in the area starting to think that something odd is going on skin? Walker ranch. A group of US live nearby allegedly established a betting circle where participants put money on the link to time the Myers would stay on the ranch before being driven away by what we don't know. A decade later, we have our first documented UFO citing here we go. Two miles from skin Walker ranch, a large silver globe like object to seen flying over Fort. Duchenne in one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, four, one of the witnesses told the following story of the encounter I've added some music. About music to give it a little ambiance hopefully make it more entertaining. Can Add some music to all of the longer firsthand account past today I hope it helps it adds to the storytelling. I was in my thirties. My mother told me a story. One day. We were having our little picnic lunch couldn't have been much of a lunch. There was a heavy wartime food rationing effect. A Shiny object flew in from the West. Made a circuit around the little meadow. Howard for a few minutes. Away to the East I. was. surprised. As to why she'd never told me this story before she said, she never considered the incident of much significance. I slapped her in the face and the Alabama woman what do you mean not much significance your saw ufo it doesn't get much more significant. The net does it as. Sorry. This slap stuff with Cummings Bullshit as that was not I was not mine back back to my story now. She could have been right but I asked her to draw the object for memory drew a circuit a globe. That's it circuit a global. Asked if the object did anything but fly through the air. Tried to explain that are made some kind of jittery or shaky movements. She really couldn't describe what the movement was like. The object could have been carried by the wind what she did remember being particularly windy that day. So it circled little meadow. then. flew away. Cincinnati were several years before Kenneth Arnold famous nineteen, forty, seven sightings of nine shiny objects. Fluid tandems give like sauces flew through the sky amount rain here in Washington state. Years. Later, I met a man, a police officer who had worked for the shame. He told me of an incident where he and his family were laying out on the lawn when evening families do drinking coffee and soft drinks when a shiny object over food their house stopped and shot straight up. Could identify what the object was. But it was enough to send the families scurrying until the house. The officer said that he and his family didn't go out in the evening like that quite a while. After mom told me the story of the meadow Saudi, gave it. Some thoughts at least two possibilities came to me. As I said. Kenneth Arnold hadn't yet had his side experience, but I learned even in those pre internet days at the four Shane area was Kinda notorious for sightings. Let kind. Or there was another possibility. During the war Japanese. It made and released a number of hydrogen filled balloons carrying incendiary devices from the Japanese homelands. Home Islands open the balloons would make their way west be the jet stream I guess East gives me hush. Directions. Forget sometimes land the hoped they would land in America's forest lands and start forest wildfires and maybe kill somebody. Whether the Shiny object my mother saw was a flying saucer google bomb something else I can say. Here's what I can see. My is a God. Damn fool. There's no way around it. She saw flying saucer and she didn't immediately make a journal entry or Scheduler note nothing why not? What's going. On in Fort to Shane Utah Nineteen forty four to get the fuck out of here that place and everything going on there wasn't much more significant or interested in watching paint dry. You know I know I'll never forgive. Apologies again, those those disparaging remarks assigned to my street mother belonged comments. Of course he's filthy haven savage. And Well God may be able to someday forgive him. I certainly never will please allow me to finish my tail on uninterrupted. Here's what I can say about my mother's side. A little meadow was within two or three miles at the infamous skin. Walker Wrench I don't know if the paranormal experiences phenomena experience net ranch jerry were happening back as far as World War. Two. One certainly happened nearby Picnic Day in nineteen. Forty. Four Right. So not an amazing story but important to include it. Since it will add to a series of so many strains, sightings around the ranch established at the restraints things in the sky being seen around the ranch long before much more retha sightings give the ranch, its current notoriety. Are. From this point on, it's going to be a steady series of reports of USO ufo sightings in the area Also, before we move on few words about the Japanese food hydrogen filled balloons referred to I'd never heard of those things before tail and I did wonder for a second if that was just a made up bullshit no now, there are very real such a strange weapon. From late, nineteen, forty, four until early, nineteen, forty-five, the Japanese launched over ninety three, hundred fire balloons. Three hundred were found or observed in the US after American aircraft. Bomb Tokyo in other Japanese cities during the doolittle rate of nineteen, forty two, the Japanese military command wanted to retaliate in kind, but it's manned aircraft were incapable of Ridge, in the west coast of the US what the Japanese military lacked in technology. However, it made it four in geography since the thirteenth century when a pair of cyclones foiled fleets of Kublai, Khan's Mongol invaders. The Japanese had long believed that the gods had dispatched divine winds called kamikaze to protect them, and then during World War military thought the. Winds could save them once again when scientists discovered that a Westerly River of air thirty, thousand feet high. No. Now as the jetstream could transport hydrogen filled balloons. North. American three to four days. So for two years, Japanese military produced thousands of balloons with skins of lightweight but durable paper made from Mulberry Wood Using Forty Foot long ropes attached balloons the military mounted incendiary devices in thirty pound high explosive bombs rig to drop over North America and sparked massive forest fires that would instill panic and divert resources from the war effort. The forest fires never happened, but some weird tragedy did. On May. Fifth Nineteen forty-five one as balloons killed some kids and women in Oregon that Saturday Reverend Archie Mitchell at the time the pastor of the church little bly. Oregon about fifty miles from Klamath falls let a Sunday. School picnic up in the nearby mountains of southern Oregon accompany. Mitchell was his five months pregnant wife Elsie and five kids from the Church Mitchell drops off. His wife and the kids for a hike then drives the car up the road to meet them for lunch as he's getting lunch ready. One of the kids yells from the distance says they found a balloon. Mitchell had actually heard the Japanese fire balloons yelled for the kid not to touch. It has yo comes too late. Here's the explosion and they all die except for Mitchell. They were the only American balloon casualties of the war. This poor dude loses his pregnant wife to a Japanese fire balloon that kills her in the woods of Oregon would incredibly random way to die. With my ridiculous humor, my wife Lindsay died in that way fucking nobly. BELIEVE ME I. Lindsay. You didn't hear. She. passed. What's on my God. You're joking tell me a joke now. We were hiking in the woods. Racket in the woods and she she touched the Goddamn Japanese fire balloon. and Bluer the fuck up Dave what's get hats? Stop it man you'll be ridiculous. No, you're being ridiculous. My wife was burned to a crisp by Japanese fire balloon while we're on a hiking Oregon what part of that's hard to understand. We were hiking organ and touched. Japanese. Fire Balloon A fucking blew up. I can't think of a more random laid i. know it's sad. So anyways that what the storytellers mom when he's five I don't know maybe no for certain in the nineteen fifties, Joseph Junior. Hicks and Altera High School in junior high science teacher in Fort Duchenne, hears about this and some other early ufo sightings in the area. Hicks to become the first to try and gather evidence of paranormal happenings, Skin Walker ranch, and organize them in some type of empirical way inspired by a group of students who claim to witness what can only be described as ufo encounter over. Skin Walker Ranch nineteen fifty one about thirty of his students claimed to have seen a cigar shaped ufo flying over them in broad daylight, and they weren't alone in experiencing this or at least claiming to. In the nineteen fifties, the number of reports of UFO's around the basin soared one newspaper reported that Dale Stone who was home for the weekend from Duchenne reported to his parents Mr and Mrs Averil stone that the account given in a Salt Lake. City newspaper on the flying saucers was correct some one hundred children of the Duchenne School Watch the flying disc for about five minutes. He said it was shaped like two saucers place together with two jet pipes extending behind what? The Roosevelt Standard Roosevelt Utah reported on Thursday September Twenty First Nineteen fifty when the old Rasmussen family was returning home Tuesday night after attending a genealogy meeting at Liotta they had quite an experience. They saw some of those flying saucers shooting through this guy. They are not sure what the things were only that they were flying mighty fast and we're pretty see. In a hilariously titled Article Around the same time Yep, there are flying saucers. We saw I'm also a local barber named Pat Marquis alerts nearby day laborers to the presence. If you oppose the article read and sure enough floating over the Roosevelt tour floating over Roosevelt toward the South about ten o'clock were several brilliant silver colored objects. They were visible for perhaps five minutes before they finally vanished into this guy it was no dream folks they were sure enough there because we all saw. Some of the Saudis would end up being explained to why not all, but some some at least officially, the flying objects many witness would end up being identified another local newspaper board. The headline strange object proves just to be Army flair. They wrote the the can finally be resolved for many base and residents and travelers who've Uday a strange fireball in the sky last Wednesday evening July first. The witnesses included the Ali Arrests Moose and Family Tourists Bud Davis and many unidentified persons who called police chief McDonald for information on the flaming ball it was an army fire balloon flair commonly used in military maneuvers to light the target area as the witnesses reported a parachute actually did emergency flair but contrary to one report, there was no one in the parachute. some people including Hicks convinced though that these crafts were just a army flares Hicks subsequent digging uncovered hundreds of firsthand accounts, of ufo's and other strange phenomena occurring in around skywalker ranch. He would eventually document more than four hundred sightings of unidentified crafts, witnesses too many of those sightings. many of these is also include supposed sightings of not just crap but actual extraterrestrial beans. I had leftover little note there witnesses too many of these sightings of the of the four hundred also saw excuse me the extra terrestrial beans and cattle mutilations were occurring all the time. Now when a UFO Saudi was reported, Academy Nation would often quickly follow why were so many it'll be mutilated that aliens find out that Utah Base in cattle or the tastiest cattle on earth or was the area infested with cattle hunger. Wars. that actually is what some thought and what some still think. Some local American Indians had been blaming cattle, mutilations and other kinds of misfortune on skin walkers for centuries when Hicks contact us and local tribe members to collect more information about UFO sightings and subsequent Kademi relations he learned that many of these tribes believed that the area was being damn near continuously proud by skin walkers who killed eight cattle when they couldn't find human victims. The tribal members he spoke with referred to the whole region as the path of the skin walker and many of them avoided certain parts of the basin at all costs. This is the first time that anyone had connected skin walkers to ufo's in the area. A Hicks eventually published his findings in a nineteen seventy, four book entitled the Utah Ufo Display. spoke unfortunately on available in e book form out of print at most online retailers found one copy but I couldn't get here in time to read it before had record the episode it's unavailability adds to the mystery I guess. Nineteen sixty seven another way the UFO sightings occurs in the Utah Basin lasts until nineteen sixty, eight in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, the US army core of finishes Construction Corps of Engineers. Finishes Construction on the bottle hollow reservoir was big ass monster snakes it'd been living in the bottle ravine must have been pissed or super happy? Maybe, they're sticking living in the high desert maybe they wanted to take their laser light show this some cool water. Also nine, hundred, seventy local began to report increasing numbers of. Bass around the ranch. Okay. So maybe the snakes repairs maybe they started eating some herbs and cattle now mad about lake and nineteen, seventy, eight, a desert news article discusses mass sightings of Ufo seen ten miles from the ranch. The deseret news wrote area residents say that at say that at various locations and at times they have witnessed a flight of an awesome dome-shaped unidentified flying object with intense lights. The first witness, a thirteen year old boy named Dale would describe lights is surrounded the craft as intense green. Lights. Jagged like the flames of fire. The craft reportedly hovered slight silently directly over him before appearing to additional witnesses including the boys brother and Mother Mrs would called the Union tribal police. In for Duchenne officer, David. Murray was dispatched to investigate the sidings and then he also saw said he saw this object near US forty. So what the fuck? I know I've been fairly dismissive of a lot of UFO, sightings and past sucks. But I am feeling more open to the possibility. Some of these sightings being real recently just the sheer volume of siding starts to really make me wonder I mean just in this example, even the officer called the scene claims to have seen it. Why would all these people I? And I do realize it could have all seen something at that's in the end that that something could have been something very much from this world. Right could've been some object to just confused all them. Or maybe aliens truly were in the skies of base in the Mid Twentieth Century I hope so very exciting possibility think about And this particular site has made all the more interesting by the following information. The article goes on to say that the following day Mrs would talk to a reporter from the Roosevelt. Standard. Named tenth. Rasmussen the Rasmussens they've been reporting seeing UFO's for years now and this Mrs Rasmussen told Mrs would it will driving home from Roosevelt? She also spotted something on a corner of her eye. She then asked her ten year old grandson David at the shining object was a plane. He replied calmly that it was a flying saucer. Mrs Rasmussen then told Mrs Woods that she was not afraid of the flying saucer because she'd seen a saucer like objects herself twenty years earlier in the area. So she knew what to expect. Then, the woods Mrs Rasmussen Contacted Junior Hicks everyone is seen aliens. Or are they we have tons of people now living in the same tightly-knit community who are talking to each other about UFO's claiming to see you oppose building each other stories about ufo's over multiple generations. Are they all seen ufo's or all the all or are they all just really wanting to see you a focus? So they're not the only ones left out of the UFO party because who wants to be the only person not seeing UFO's in a rural area where everyone else is seeing ufo's or claiming to at some point would you say that you saw a UFO for social acceptance? Talk, for a second about crowd psychology. There is a widely accepted psychological theory about cry about crowd psychology that addresses how different we meet sacks tend to act in a group versus how we act we're by ourselves. Turkish social psychologist, Mustafa Sharieff. One of the founders of modern social psychology demonstrated in a nineteen thirty, five experiments. The influence people have on one another's perceptions you had group of people observe a stationary light in darkened room another stationary or excuse me although stationary the light appeared to move and in a different end in a different direction to each observer. The members of the group were able to eventually reconcile their initially divergent perceptions and agree in which direction the light was quote unquote moving. So insured they all agreed that they saw an object move in a direction that for many was not moving well, it wasn't moving at all, but but the too many it didn't even appear to be moving. Inability to check once perception with others and to get feedback is an important part of evolutionary biology and one of the things that helps humans cooperate. So they can build tools and form societies. Agreement can be very useful in society, but under some circumstances, feedback from others can lead to exaggerated or even faulty perceptions and mass hysteria like minded people have also been clinically observed to reinforce each other's viewpoints. In a theory called group polarization. And the study French psychologists, Sergei Moscow VICI and Marita Alani researchers asked participants some questions. First researchers asked about their opinion of the French presence second they asked about their attitude toward Americans. The researchers then asked the participants to discuss each topic as group after the discussion groups who held a tentative consensus became more extreme in their opinions. The longer they talked the researchers concluded group consensus seems to induce a change of attitudes in which subjects are likely to adopt more extreme positions. Basically, when we see our opinions reflected back to US however uncertain or tentative, those opinions might have been initially the belief then strengthens we can become more extreme in our beliefs. Combined. So social psychology tendencies with proven human ability to implant false memories that we've discussed in numerous pass sucks. One could theorize that it is entirely plausible for town to convince itself that everyone is seeing aliens. False memories are constructed by combining actual memories with suggestions received from others. During this process, individuals may forget the source of the information and disassociate the content of the memory from the source leading people to convince themselves that they experienced something when they definitely did not. That affect was demonstrated in a study by Saul, M Cassen, and his colleagues at Williams College who investigated the reactions of individuals falsely accused of damaging a computer by pressing the wrong key a key they did not in fact ever press for sure. The innocent participants initially denied the charge because they didn't do it. But when a lab assistant said that she had seen them perform the action many participants relented and said that okay I guess they did do it signed a confession. The participants even gave extra details about how the computer broke cast. His colleagues never even provided an entirely false memory. So bring all this back to the UN tall basin You know also worth pointing out that this area was an is heavily Mormon. Why is that important? How does that factor into in this? Because I think it does factor in because when one opens their mind to religious thinking that mind is now not only open to believing in possible the things that cannot be seen or scientifically proven the my now definitely believes with certainty that these things exist things like angels, demons, and specifically in the Latter Day Saints Belief, system of vast universe full of millions of other planets all populated by other people, other people that you could define as aliens and that person I would think is much more apt to convince themselves that sure why not they just saw you A. Than some stone cold atheist now is that what I think is going on here I have no fucking idea. I. Hope Not I don't know any of these people they could've seen aliens again. I wasn't there. 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In one, thousand, nine, hundred, one adding to the general atmosphere of what the fuck is happening out by his skin Walker ranch NASA bills research. Observatory called Vernal site, just sixteen miles northeast of the ranch. Why there? What are they looking for? The site was eventually in one could say mysteriously abandoned. On April Twenty six, nine, hundred, seven, Skin Walker ranch owner Kenneth Myers passes away his wife Edith leaves the ranch which will now sit empty for seven years as far as we know I. Guess It's possible to talk about a lot of possibilities today. No couples skin walkers could have squad there during those seven years. When other people around you know I'm just just just just you know just a remote possibility, but you know maybe they were just they're out stealing some satellite signals splice new neighbors electricity. So they watch Murphy Brown and night court in some hungry man Salisbury steak dinners maybe snacking on some cheese and chicken and biscuit crackers maybe drinking some some cold seven up gold. Look it up. It's real and vibe in you know is that likely? No, I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility I wasn't there and either you. March third one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, edith dies at Eighty, eight, her brother-in-law. Garth Gardner Myers. Who gives her kid a middle name of Gardner when their first name is Garth Terrible Gardener Gardner Myers inherits the ranch and sells it to can you believe this shit? Roy Mom meter Disney did he die nineteen seventy-one diddy where there or plot twists hear me out? Is he a skin walker who killed his own mother? So he could feast on her flesh and then live in the woods I'm merely speculating not accusing which is well with my legal rights when referring to a public figure Disney legal team if you are listening. Africa garth Gardner Myers inherits ranch. He does not sell to Roy. Disney and yes I do realize that joke is probably only funny to me. He sells the ranch to people who will make it famous shirts buckle up. Sherman's GonNa take the weirdness and the story crank it up to fucking eleven. In the summer of Nineteen ninety-four Terry Sherman Hall this this Guy Oh boy rancher and cattle-breeder his wife Gwen Banger they find their dream ranch the big five, hundred, twelve acres spread a remote little paradise for the Germans it'd be fine place they thought to raise their teenage son nine year old daughter. They were puzzled why such a prime piece of real estate had been sitting vacant for seven years. Terry would later say there was some really odd things about the place we noticed right we moved in we should have known something was wrong done done done. The first sign of something was off by the place with large impressions. Sherman's kept finding the pastures within just a few weeks moving in they claim to have found a thirty foot triangle impression in one of their fields. As the weeks went by they found other circles measuring roughly three feet wide and one to two feet deep with a soil inside the holes firmly pressed down. Terry also began having trouble with his cattle. Cows start turning up dead cows who seem to die very strange circumstances getting more X. files is now I like it A hole in the center of the left eyeball, the first dead cow and no other wounds. And although it had been dead for days by the time, Terry founded predators and scavengers had not touched its carcass very suspicious. And Terry notice a chemical smell in the vicinity. Short time later second cows found dead with the same strange left eyeball overcome with curiosity. Terry claims he took wire inserted into the whole of each of the cows eyeballs to gauge the depth of the wound and found that the wire passed easily all the way into deep into the cow's brains. So, what could have done that and why? Soon after death these cows Terry WYNN's is something much stranger. Oh boy, he hasn't encountered now with the corpse of animal the died in a way he couldn't identify. He has a very strange kind of with a living creature whose species he cannot identify. He thinks he encountered a skin walker when it was in the form of strange menacing super. Wolf. And I'm going to share his story account that also needs a little bit a little bit of music to give it some mode. Not long after moving into skin Walker ranch. Terry was hard work and one of the fields when he saw some movement out of the corner of his eye. He turned to see large dog like creature in the distance. Was Walking in his direction and immediately tried to figure out what could it be a dog? Maybe there wolf. As it came closer Jerry realized that the creature was far bigger than any dog fourth. It was roughly I duNNo. Roy. Disney. Sized chicken before he knew what was happening the creature covered the entire distance between them trotted right out in front of Terry. Dan will seem peaceful maybe even tame. Terry couldn't help but reach out his hand. To, pet it. As one does when one encounters a large unknown apex? Predator. He ran his hand through it's great for feeling the powerful musculature below. Not. Making this up. Shortly after Terry. Touched at the beast turned around and ran away from him shooting off like a thunderbolt. Heading, straight toward the corral, which the Sherman's kept their cattle. Before. Tarik has shut out the creature stuck. It's monstrous world snout to the bars of the cattle pen and clamped as powerful jaws onto the head of the calf closest to its. Gripping the cast head with this long jagged teeth, the creature began attempting to pull the baby cow, the bars as it screamed in pain. Terry Randall the cattle. As he reached the creature, he delivered several blows with his face to the beasts ribcage. Totally normal thing to do to a large aggressive Predator trying to eat you know something it punch with demand fists. With his bare hands had no effect on the creature Terry grabbed a nearby baseball bats began to beat the creature with over and over again. Apparently, this thing was taken a really long time getting that calf or Terry just happen to have a baseball bats laying around and Calvin. The bat like his fist was useless. Noreen interior altogether, the beast continued is attempt to pull the crime calf to the bars of its holding pen. How the fuck is Casto Life Terry yelled out to a son. Tad. Get my magnum. As confused son than quickly brought his father large condom educators kind of joke. You know Terry kept a heavy duty Magnum handgun in the glove compartment of his truck tad quickly brought the weapon to his father and Terry Shot, creature once twice three times but the bullets. Had No effect. What startled Terry even more that his shots that no visible wounds blood. Wasn't until the fourth shot at point blank range, the creature finally, let go of the calf seemingly more out of sheer noise than anything else. The bleeding half scrambled to the other side of the. House is still alive. I'm more impressed by this calf than I am by this can walk off. The creature turns attention to Terry's glades gays not place didn't everglades, gays and regular gays and it was flat predatory. I was punched now it was about Jerry aimed his gun at the creature's chest fired. It's a direct hit, but the creature only turned around and began to walk away at a slow leisurely paced for some reason Terry Yell for his son to bring him his shotgun, the creature walked into the distance Terry opened fire again must have been really leisurely walking away into the distance just a lot of time to to grab Shit Story Terry could hear. The twelve gauge bullet ripping through the thing shoulder. Shoot bullishness choice be palace. It only pause briefly before continuing at the same pace. Carolina another round hitting it in the chest this time terry clearly see blood spraying out of the open wound with the animal didn't seem to be in any pain. Terry and Tad with desperate to stop it they followed it into the woods, which is what you do when you're fighting a monster and then lost sight of it after entered the trees. Could see it's fresh tracks in the mud followed it more to the tracks vanished in the middle of the woods still creature at disappeared in to. Get the fuck out of here. No, no no. This is not happen come on who sees a giant wolf a wild wolf and starts petting it no one. No one does that but you know what? Let's say Terry does do that. Let's see. The Skin Walker puts a spell him and he does he pets it for some reason, and then the skin walker tries to take a calf. Interior runs over and starts punching it. No why would he do that? Why would he risk his life to save a calf? He is raising specifically for the purpose of having slaughtered for beef meat and few years is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I will believe in skin walkers aliens long before I believe a rancher who clearly has at least two loaded guns nearby runs over and starts punching a fucking Wolf Monster to get it to let go a calf and then run to at bat instead of grabbing one of the guns Terry Sherman if you're listening and this is true, you may be the dumbest motherfucker I've ever read about. I realized I've given a terrible first impression of the Sherman's but it is what it is. You can't tell the story of the Skin Walker. Ranch skip over the Sherman's portion of it. Yeah and their portion begins with that story. I I did find very funny to what are you what? Thank God others accounts come across as more credible than Sherman accounts. This was the chairman families I run in with what they would come to know his skin walker. but the claim they claim, it wouldn't be the last and they were they were report many other unexplainable phenomena. Of course, they would I mean why stop? Why? Stop if you've taken things to the level of punching skin walkers you're not just going to suddenly stop telling stories. Other next report has to do with the sky in particular a section of sky right over a wooded grove they said, would change come evening right when the sun was going down an odd odd-looking orange smudge would appear just above the treetops. Sherman's felt something weird about this much. Germans claimed that if they look closely, they could almost look through the smudge to what appeared to be another sky. Seemed to be looking down in a tunnel and speculated that this tunnel existed outside of space and time logical conclusion Terry theorize that strange creatures that he has seen on the ranch were coming from this tunnel. One. Staring at the tunnel through the scope is rifle. Terry sees a large black triangle shaped craft out of the Inter dimensional doorway. Did anyone test this ranch for some kind of fucking gas leak? Not. Even trying to make another Roy Disney job here if what is going on with his family April nineteen ninety-five the weirdness it escalated dramatically. I'll say. While checking his cattle one evening Terry now claims he saw a glowing object excuse me pass over one of the fields few days later, his wife Gwynn's he's another option this guy she would later say it looked like headlights, but they were a little ways away from the craft. It just let the whole side of the mountain up like it was broad daylight. Then, the Sherman's cows started vanishing Terry would later claim we contacted everyone around. We looked everywhere they just vanished. Clearly, whatever we're taking, it was not the skin walker. He punched I think couldn't even drag off calf. In one instance Terry followed tracks in the fresh no hoping that they would lead him to his cow detract stopped under some trees, the field, the area around the animals last steps surrounded by a circle of twigs and branches the trees abrupt above. Weird. It'll weird little like like a Blair witch project type thing happening the Sherman's also observe many different kinds of crafts. Sure. One of the most spectacular aerial phenomenon they observed was described by Terry. We could see these hundred foot circular openings appear in the air. It was like four orange colored doorways would sort of just spiral open. Okay Sherman's would watch small crafts emerged from the hovering portal's fly around the property and just re entered the doorways and disappear. The Sherman described these stealthy smaller crafts being about sixty forty feet in size with a square short wings, and they admitted spikes of light which would hit the ground. With someone just constantly put LSD in there, fucking. Well, the Sherman's theorize of some kind of navigation system. Okay. Okay. you'd think that these people start carrying a camcorder at this point with all the stuff going on weird that they didn't do that Once their son tad found a mutilated cows and five minutes of its death. Tad said he'd seen angus the cow eating peacefully and then return moments later to find a dead and the cows rectum he noticed had been cord. where it's random should have been. There was a whole. about eight inches deep. About Fif- sized circumference tad never told anyone how know he got those butthole measurements and no one ever asked now imagine dad senatorial one of our cows bottles they kill it. The whole is eight inches deep easy. I was able to stick my whole wrecked I it was I. think it was I don't know how exactly forget about. Checkout during the summer that Summer Terry Tat and tears nephew also hurt unintelligible voices while standing nearby pasture. The SANDWICH THEY I seem to be echoes of CB radio seemed to emanate out of the air directly above them. They could hear two voices speaking and. Speaking an unknown language the Terry described as choppy and sounded like a cross between Russian and American India. Okay one voice was deep and the other was high pitched Terry yelled into the air. We can hear you and then the voice stop momentarily and the deeper voice broke out into a low rumbling laugh and the two voices is continued speaking before. But somebody just fucking with Terry. That's the five I'm getting now. Terry's crazy everyone in the area had no that Terry Sherman was bachelor crazy and I wondered like we're local kids is starting to mess with him. Just like to be fun. Now, we'll hide behind the barn and we just whisper weird voices and you watch you'll freak out I promise last week we flew remote-controlled helicopter on his house. He's still talking about being attacked by some kind of spaceship. By the fall strange activities occurring daily if not hourly around the ranch one night gwen claims to see lights in the field. So she grabs vernacular not a camera now. she's shocked to see square lighted structure sitting on the ground before the lights blink out Gwen says, she catches a glimpse of a large heavyset individual seated inside the structure. Love it. You never hear about fat aliens of course, the Sherman's would see one. Short time later, the same craft appeared again, this time Gwen and Terry both Terry describes a person is being over seven feet tall and decked out in a totally black uniform and very huge. Sherman's note that the being appears to have adviser sunshine on its face visor. Weird nineties, Frat, Guy Nineties, Frat Basketball Guy Getting out of a spaceship. So browse some noise. We Guys Watch for aliens. Noise. The family starts noticing glowing blue balls around the property that appear to scan members of the family whenever they approach it. My God. They don't already quit. It just keep up the ante and then an alien just just just popped into my plane of existence right in front of me. Yeah. We all saw it poof who's right there and it's not hey, no, don't don't lose focus don't. Keep giving me attention. Don't look away. Now this is just the start of it because you he didn't poop existence he started A. Juggling Yup is not a three vaults nowadays he's juggling a thousand balls at once wait tables chains us. He was juggling a thousand chainsaws while levitating and then another alien showed up started shooting them. Are there like like a like a wild west show while blindfolded fucking crazy. We're talking about being scanned Sherman's claim the aliens then killed their dogs had just keeps getting weirder their dogs went missing for several days tearing Gwen. Go looking for him in the woods interior spots. Three enormous circles carved into the ground in the center of each circle he discovers a greasy blob. Of what looks to be shortening or butter? and. He's positive. Excuse me this substance is whatever is left of his dogs. The dogs had been butter is damn. You Aliens Damn. You dog butter rising bathrooms from al.. The butter is dogs the final Straw for Gwen and Terry I. Get it. You know you gotTa draw a line somewhere and for the Sherman's it was butterflies dogs. Feeling that they could no longer guarantee the safety of their children. They called it quits. Thank God. I'm ready to move pass these idiots. Get back to some sightings at least feel somewhat credible. the Sherman, spend their last and the ranch rounding up cattle. When night falls, they lock all the doors, see their children to bed when Terry take hot showers fall into a deep sleep. In the next morning, they wake up to find their bedding covered in blood of course they do. They both have a one eight inch deep scoop mark in the same place in the right. Thumbs. The ranch from how had managed to get him one last time. The Sherman's end up selling the ranch to Las Vegas millionaire some say billionaire Robert Bigelow in recent years has invested substantial amounts of money into you related research. Rob Aka Bob Aka. Bob `art is an interesting fucking character in a suck full of interesting characters. Lets me Bob. Bob Bigelow born in Vegas nineteen forty-five always had an interest in science which he attributed to having witnessed at age twelve a bunch of the atomic tests conducted at the Nevada national security site known the nineteen fifties as in the Nevada test site about sixty miles sixty five miles. Excuse me Northwest Vegas. Young Robert saw mushroom clouds. From atmospheric testing including one of the most well known which occurred when the site dropped a one kilotonne. TNT bomb on Frenchman flat on January Twenty Fifth Nineteen fifty one a lot of people saw that one. The explosion could be seen over a hundred miles away. Another experience led to a fascination with extraterrestrials. When he was young, he wrote a story from his grandparents about driving down from Mount Charleston a twelve thousand foot mountain just ten miles outside of Vegas, and then they saw something in the air is parents were positive. It was a UFO. Roberts curiosity was permanently peaked. He decided he wanted to establish his own space program someday driven by that goal, he set out to accumulate the necessary wealth dedicating himself to his education later to numerous business ventures after graduating high school enrolled university Nevada, where he studied banking and real estate. Next three decades he dedicated himself to commercial real estate primarily to the development of hotels, motels that apartment complexes. In a company called budget suites, of America, still hasn't. Made A shitload of money on these cheap motels curly nineteen locations in Arizona Nevada Texas. Nineteen ninety-five bigalow use some of that budget hotel bread to found the National Institute for the Discovery Science and I D S. A big goal was to study paranormal events purely from an unbiased authentic scientific angle using the brightest minds in the latest technology he especially wanted to study UFO's and what better place to do that. Then Skin Walker ranch. Zach Van Dyke a journalist writing for the Salt Lake City Desert News once referred to bigalow as easily the most prominent American financier in the paranormal research field in September of Nineteen ninety-six Bob Knob John Bigelow buys skin Walker ranch for two hundred, thousand dollars. As part of the deal, the Sherman's sign a nondisclosure agreement which bars them from making any further statements about the ranch or their experiences. Yeah. Good call. He probably wanted them to shut the fuck up some case. He saw something he'd have a chance to be taken seriously stop poisoning the paranormal. Well, you idiots. You've already said way too much. Of bigalow turn skywalker ranch into a paranormal research laboratory get employs post keep out signs put fences around the ranch locked gates. I put an Observation Tower and higher para scientists as well as a veterinarian. Bigalow had employees send out twelve hundred letters to local ranchers asking for their cooperation and reporting, missing or mutilated animals. As noted in one of his articles, some researchers claim that bigelow and. S Were Front for CIA activities more mystery, these theories fuelled by the addition of retired Army Colonel John Alexander to the an idea staff Alexander had left his position as director of non lethal weapons testing at Los Alamos national to join forces with bigalow. So he's getting some big guns as wired magazine reported in one, thousand, nine, hundred or nine, hundred, ninety, five Alexander had a resume lifted from the X. Files Nice I like it. Now that the ship had. Sherman's are gone crazy. Train is getting Kinda back on the tracks. And nineteen ninety-six the ranch gains notoriety a ufo and conspiracy theory circles. Investigative reporter George KNAPP writes a series of articles about the ranch that are published the desert news. On January twenty first nineteen, ninety-seven Terry Sherman discovers young cows the observation center was strange wounds to their eyes and ears dammit. Yes. Terry. Sherman. He's back. He never left actually got dammit. Baba bigalow higher terry. Tall Tales to work as a ranch hand, every sold the ranch anyways. Guess. He wanted to keep Terri just in case Wolf showed up and he needed somebody to punch him. Terry, summons to veterinarians the first fed took one look at the injuries declared that they were unlike anything he had ever encountered before. But then the next veterinarian, a more experience veterinarian strenuously disagreed, he insisted that the wounds had been made by coyote or wildcat whatever their origin, the mutilations only increase. After this point, one calf appears to have been torn open by something insanely powerful but also incredibly precise one leg ripped off at the joint, all its internal organs removed with laser precision. Completely drained of blood one ear neatly severed from its head. A bigalow is an IDs has a has a real an active Predator on their hands, and they're sure this Predator is paranormal at least everyone except except for the experience vet, he's like I think is probably coyotes and then everyone else likes. Dr Killjoy. X files. Baiba we're trying to surf the wave Terry Tall Tales has gotten going. On August nineteen, ninety-seven, the. Crew witnesses something highly unusual even by the standards of skin. Walker. Ranch. S- three in the morning and two scientists named Mike and Jim they're man in an observation post for several hours when they see unknown light shining in the distant darkness. What are these scientists? Last names? What type of science do they have degrees and experience in doesn't matter don't worry about it. Source doesn't say it doesn't need to Mike and Jim are two very reputable scientists manning skin. Walker observation posts a remote Utah who don't have surnames all checks out. If, Madonna doesn't need a last name. If one is good enough for sting and share was good enough for Mike and Jim. Two men set up a camera on a Tripod to capture the strange light as the camera automatically snaps pictures. Every thirty seconds Mike peers out in an anomaly through a pair of night vision binoculars. As the scientists stares in disbelief, the light turns into a circular portal or tunnel moments later, Mike Shouting Shock Jesus, Christ tunnel. He sees a large creature tumble out of the portal screams God it just climbed out. With nobody of his own gym can't see the beam for Fuck Sake Jim. Are you new? Is this the first time you've ever science tw if you want to see a monster alien being thing climate of a flashing Vortex Tunnel everyone knows you Kinda US dollars. So, sorry about Dr Jim Ruining this part of the story for everyone you guys. All, Jim could see was a swirling vortex of light shrunken seem to collapse in on itself. Mike would later say that it seemed like the portal was opened for just long enough for something to tumble out despite Mike's startling testimony none of the ideas equipment is able to pick up hard evidence of what he was talking about dot bummer. Nineteen Ninety eight another mutilation takes place and ideas investigates the cows remains in fines at the mutilations performed the sharp surgical instrument. Once again despite spending ten, thousand dollars to analyze some of the cows tissue, the results come back and say that there's nothing paranormal it was just probably Predator. After cutting. June twenty two thousand something actually interesting happens they witnessed not named Terry Sherman or Dr Jim Calls an idea to report. UFO. Sightings in the skies of southeast. Southeast of Fort. Duquesne headed in the direction of Ramlet. A little census data place about six miles southeast afford to Shane. The call describes the Aubrey spherical shaped and get this approximately the size of four football fields at huge. This is almost independence day she hit. The object is emanating a constant glow with an intermittent flashing of a separate light source and making some kind of rhythmic sound. So there's that no pictures unfortunately by two thousand eleven bothered budget billionaire bigalow and ideas have up to fifteen scientists. PhD's now working at any one time at the ranch. By then Colonel Alexander has been replaced by Dr Comb. Kelleher as deputy administrator. Kelleher was an expert in the field of cell and molecular biology having earned his PhD in biochemistry from Holy Trinity in Dublin and I gotTa. Do like this guy he doesn't seem to. Wacky in one interview about what? Does he says, we don't study aliens. We study anomalies and when Terry Sherman read that interview, he probably mumble to himself. Dr. Punch skin walkers. Punch skin walkers? Kelleher. Along with George KNAPP television journalists would author the book hunt for the Skin Walker Science. Confronts. The unexplained at a Remote Ranch and Utah and we'll say this book which I mentioned a four main sources. Very, well, rated lot of reviews not the craziness can't be well reviewed and rated. But. You know worth pointing out according to Kelleher KNAPP. They saw or investigated evidence of close to a hundred incidents that included vanishing and mutilated cattle sightings of one identified flying objects, orbs, large animals with piercing yellow eyes that witnesses said were not injured when struck by bullets, cars, invisible objects, emitting destructive magnetic fields, all kinds of shit the book was published in two thousand five? The following story about one of the incidents that happened in this. In this book occurred in the Spring of two thousand four, the witnesses chosen to remain anonymous, and again I feel like some more mood music is definitely appropriate to make this mortgage, Kinda Spooky and entertaining. Theft. Hunting tail for you. Regarding my tires spin on the Gorman ranch. Skin Walker Ranch in Utah based in Utah from two, thousand, three, two, thousand, five. I worked with a team from an independent company. He was working with the national incident, Discovery Science and idea of the team that are already been there for a while so much fun I. Love Science. The Same Science Schools Docker Jim Professor Mike. I would spend between a wigham month on the ranch surrounding areas. We'd have two weeks do month off then returned back but team loud on and off from two thousand three. Or I'll stop okay stop. Probably not the right tone after getting into it I do realize that probably didn't help with this mood. For me most of what I just said. was from the first hand account out. Let me restart a I'll pick up where you left off but with a better a more suitable but you know kind of moot. We go. That's a guess we better. Allow me to continue. Now any of you who know much about the ranch, not by the early two thousands, most of the events had died down when no more missing animals. No crazy sounds with monsters the darkness. The ideas team continued to monitor the ranch but short of the occasionally or siding or strange bottle from light to offer the distance was to report. By the time, I, got there August of two, thousand three. Like sitting on an old farm. Would, just hang out play cards monitor equipment for any magnetic anomalies. I remember one time my second visit I saw some lights in the sky in the distance and I got really excited. But then Turned out to be just an airplane premier probably left out. On that for a while. Ago to the ranch, the surrounding areas monitor the equipment answer phones, feed the cattle and dogs. And a couple of times, and it just missed an event by a day or so. I would get to the ranch and some of the team members tell me that the night before I missed a fly by. After the fourth time going there I began contemplating whether or not I wanted to keep doing this. I was just getting bored travel is getting to be a bit much. I signed on had high hopes I didn't think the my job would amount to me. Beena. Gore five ranch hand. Then finally on May twenty third two, thousand, four. It happened I had my first experience. Was a bit past dinnertime and we were sitting in the trailer outside the dog started going nuts. I had never heard the Mac Mike before for Terry Chevron's was punched them. Just sticking I, looked at my window. I saw light beat shined dog been. Walked out with two of the other guys we saw ball of light buzzed by the dog pen and off the field toward a line of trees after a couple of hundred yards, the ball curved in and through often different direction and just winked out poof just like my mind was blown I'd finally see something worth noting. This was the first experience I had. It only lasted about forty five seconds, but it made everything up to that point worth it. Few days later. Same visit I saw one of the fabled black triangles that have been seen a locked during the heyday of the activity at the ranch. was just after dusk. The Sky wasn't completely dark and got a call from someone. I. Got a call who son who live near the ranch saying that they had just seen a UFO was headed in our direction who were all looking at the sky and a very short amount of time. We saw completely silent black triangle with one white light in the center. It didn't fly directly over us but we did observe it flying over the property and then flew off into the distance. It wasn't as cool as the ball of light we saw but it did show that there is something to others a staff. After that side wouldn't see anything again until two thousand five. In the trailer was just me and one of the. Guys we were just sitting around playing cards as guys do. Suddenly, the exact same moment air felt electrical the dogs outside started going nuts game was terry on this time. I just take. This out of scared. yelping and wine. I. Got from my seat to look out the window and see anything little over my partner. He looked kind of dazed. started. Hearing sort of faith buzzing sound and then it repeated itself by partner kind of nodded and said, we need to go outside. So I followed him out of the trader and he looked up into the sky I also looked up at first. I. Didn't see anything. Scanning for a few seconds, I did notice a spot of the sky. Darker than the rest of the sky, I couldn't make out an exact shape by could tell something. was there. He was looking straight up what I thought was some sort of object. He told me he could hear it I didn't hear anything at all at that point. I'll never forget his face. It was almost a look of awe kind of trance-like after about a minute two minutes. It was a quick bright flashlight light in the sky delectable feeling in the air was gone and the dark object was also gone. He turned to me and he told me that they had spoken to him. Going to be hard for most you believe and I wouldn't believe in myself at the there. He told me that they knew what we were doing and that they were doing the same thing. Only our roles were reversed. He said that they told him that they have the advantage and we cannot stop them from doing whatever they want to do. They also told him something like they'll go back to work I. Don't know I guess the outbreak often I. Wish I could remember the way he worded it was killing the way he said it had I not been present for that. I highly doubt I would have believed award of all of this but the look on his face, the way he related to me what had been said to him made me true believer I'm not ashamed to admit I was terrified after that. was over I decided I was going to leave the ranch and never go back I know this sounds ridiculous. especially the last part but it scared the hell out of me and there's no doubt in my mind that this guy was for real. Heard to someone else claimed they heard him as well but I really didn't know whether or not to believe them. As soon as I witnessed this guy hold. I did, believe. Listen Up. There is some seriously scary stuff out there and the world is a lot bigger. Than, we tend to think it is. Okay. Unless is anonymous account was completely made up, and we have a lot of brazen liars putting the other accounts like this I mean it is pretty intense obviously if this happened like it was laid out. I mean hard to say it's not indisputable evidence of extraterrestrial life I. Think if big if it happened. Details. All right. By the two, thousand, four, the National Institute for the Discovery Science Begins Shutting down bigalow shifting his focus to a new project bigelow aerospace advanced space studies bass giving up changing focus. Archive versions the bigelow aerospace careers webpage say it focuses on the identification evaluation and acquisition of novel in emerging. Future. Technologies worldwide as they specifically relate to space craft noise. I just said that guy's character voice earlier with the publishing of hunt for this Guy Walker two, thousand, five interest in skin Walker ranch's sparked all over the world. And with this international fame comes a lot of trespassers who also star claiming to witness more incident similar to the ones we've already covered. Before ideas completely shut down ranch activities in two thousand, seven team had won more encounter with a portal on skin Walker ranch but rather than seeing something drop out of it something, they can't tell exactly what it is this time they claim to witness a sasquatch jump into the portal fuck Yarbrough the anti has just been upped about time a squad showed up in this suck she. Heo Nimrod. According to the kind of this ridiculous incidents, researchers and ranch hands. said, they literally chased strange hairy bipedal creature. Or. Source doesn't say the Terry Sherman was one of the rain chance but it feels like this has terry written all over it incredibly just when the sasquatch been cornered by these assholes who apparently all forgot to bring their cell phones cell phones did almost always come cameras do doesn't seven but whatever the corner scotch ran up a steep hill then jump into a large orange tunnel that appeared out of thin air disappearing forever classic watch no one catches the hide and seek world champion. You think you have him cornered wake up and smell the fucking wormhole. He's a twelfth level warlock who can summon Inter Dimensional Warhol's at will you just got squashed? Obviously this story is a little hard to believe than most of the other encounters how not included. Two hundred. go through this account and the same file I toss everything Terry Sherman says into. That I mentioned the Terry family are still hanging around the ranch. Yeah. In one area that in previously been a hotbed of strange activity six sophisticated surveillance cameras are installed six cameras film in the area twenty, four, seven now. But after several months of filming, nothing of any significance is captured on tape where did all the skin walkers go? Where did the aliens in the squad? Go Terry Sherman has that answer obviously, these creatures the ability to turn invisible at will that is what he claims. Terry figure this out and son watch the nineteen ninety-seven Arnold Schwarzenegger. Action. Film. Predator if you haven't. Seen It. Your life has been a complete and utter waste of time. Also, if you haven't seen it, it's about a technologically advanced alien who shows up on earth to stalk and hunt people, and they can basically become invisible and blended to its surroundings. What it can't do is kill Arnold. fucking Schwarzenegger maybe I should take ranch maybe I'm the only can defeat skin wackle. Phase Miskin. I'll break you like you wished. You could break tiny cow baby. Seriously Jerry Anderson Watches fucking movie and have this. So that's how these creatures hide from the cameras. They. That's what they believe. I, love it. Still in two, thousand, seven and unnamed major the Defense Intelligence Agency contacts, Robert Budget Bucks bigalow requests to the ranch and person bigalow obliges and the agent end up seeing something he cannot explain. Reports, is experienced superiors. This goes further leads eventually to Nevada Senator Harry Harry Reid who earmarks over twenty million dollars of the Defense Department's Budget to fund the Advanced Ation Threat Identification Program which includes studying reports on what's going on it's in walk ranch. Pretty interesting that this happened. Bob. Bigelow and Senator Reed talked extensively about paranormal events being witnessed on skin Walker ranch, and now the government is spending millions to find out what the fuck is going. This leads me to believe that a lot of the sightings probably were a lot more credible Terry Sherman's crazy stories. January twenty nine th two, thousand and eight bass again, Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies that second venture of bigalow officially files new company in June of two thousand, eight move on the mutual. UFO network enters skin Walker ranch picture originally called the Mid West you AFO network move on was founded in nineteen, sixty, nine by Walt Andrews resident of Illinois and Dr are key associate professor of chemistry at one time it Wisconsin State University both were also members of the aerial phenomena research organization APO. They started move on as an observer network record investigate ufo sightings and other nominees around the world and move on international director at the time. James. Karen and a member of a move on board members. She's me in a number of move on board members a meet with bobby budget bucks and go shoot a contract with bigelow aerospace. A move onto executive director Jean Harz and recalled bigalow saying if we were able to offer if we were able to fund you so you can put investigators on the ground faster. Could you get better data on some of these reports? Together, move on and bigalow support investigators, fact-finding expeditions, and share data though they do so for less than a year. The original document dated February two, thousand, nine provided move on with much needed funds to continue operations as well as financially establishment of what was to be called a rapid response team. A team that would consist of group investigators who within twenty four hours of receiving information regarding high value AFO sidings could converge at the AFO sighting location. In return bigelow aerospace would receive in addition to other services direct access to move on case management system the real time database of ufo sightings. Move on agrees to provide both weekly and monthly reports bigelow aerospace and bigelow aerospace gets the rights to any evidence extraterrestrial life recovered materials or testimony that move on obtains. In the contract bigelow aerospace agreed pay six, hundred, seventy, two, thousand dollars in twelve monthly installments of fifty, six, thousand dollars but subsequent correspondence between the two parties suggests the actual total cost ended up being closer to four, hundred, thousand dollars. Because of the drop in money, the partnership quickly sours. According to move on his international director James Karen Mr Bigalow invalidated his own legal contract by refusing to abide by the original deal struck with move on instead changed in terms midstream tearing also said, he uncovered some damaging information about skin Walker ranch. He didn't say what it was and all of this led to his resignation from move on. Move on find out the Terry Sherman was full of Shit. Did you find out that others may have been lying about or at least exaggerating what was going on or not going on at the ranch? Don't know. Two thousand nine Pentagon briefing summary given by the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program. Director reportedly claims the United States is incapable of defending itself against some of the technologies discovered. So, this is interesting right I. Love this timeline we're just goes up and down for me run like that. So I can crazy no way and then all of a sudden the next thing is like Oh. Okay. All right. That's very interesting. Senator Reid then reportedly tries unsuccessfully to heighten the program security due to extraordinary discoveries and as much progress has been made with the identification of several, highly sensitive unconventional aerospace related findings. So a lot of interesting language about this with the government. That hints towards you know. Possible UFO discoveries about skin walkers where the fuck of the skin walkers will they show up again in ranch lower in two thousand ten Two thousand ten, a memo by Bass Taskforce highlights investigations into no less than ten separate accounts of witnesses claiming to have seen dog like monsters. One witness claims to have allegedly shot one of these beasts with a pellet gun and then watched the pellets bounce right off. Okay sacile seems only slightly less down than Terry. Sherman why would you shoot monster with a pellet gun? How do you see that working out? He said that the creature was covered along its entire body with long thick red for her hair approximately three inches in length though less around the shoulders neck, the creature's neck was described as as doglike and thicker than that of human had a dog snout read is that were rounded slanted towards the outer edges. The body of the creature was bigger than deer tall and thin and stature, and over six feet tall. The arms are bent at the elbows like Kangaroos. It smelled like sulfur and made it sound described as grunting or ground. Some kind of some kind of demon skin walkers squats thing. Get who sees this and thinks quick grabbed my pellet gun. A gun will surely sleigh this beast. February twelve thousand twelve the power goes out in Fort Duchenne. Shortly. After this outage multiple witnesses report seen strange green glow in the sky and someone is his also claimed to see a massive ufo. To the also in two thousand, twelve bass loses funding from the Department of Defense. Budget Bob continues to fund extra extra terrestrial expiration though with his own money. In two thousand sixteen can walk Ranch's sold for the rumored amount of four point five million to an undisclosed buyer operating under the corporation advantium. Lc Way to go budget Bob. That's deal. Buys the property ninety. Six hundred grand sells for. Four Point Five, mill twenty years later Classic Budget Bob? That's why he's a billionaire and the rest of us are hanging around watching him win. At Amana by the way is reference to a fictional metal alloy appearing in the marvel. Comic Books best known as substance bond into Wolverine Skeleton and his close and I would like it for Christmas. Pretty please. Okay. All I want this year is an Edmund Anthem Skelton that really too much to ask. Also in two thousand, Sixteen Higgins Road, a public road which had run through skin Walker ranch is legally vacated all access to the road leading to the ranch. Now becomes close to the public. A checkpoint is erected as well as large sign warn the public not to approach the gate interesting. Guess I won't head to Utah this fall and chase squashes and pumpkin walkers. Wire. This shutting things down early this year on March Tenth Two Thousand Twenty Vice Article published that reveals previously unknown identity of the owner of the Antioch Ranch Brandon Fugel. He was asked why the Hell did you buy it and he said you're right. It's strange skin Walker ranch as a project is so unconventional and so outside of my normal course of business and really frankly anyone's normal course. Of business that presents a whole new problem set I've lost some sleepover. I worry about what some of my clients and colleagues think is controversial. That's why I've waited. So long in state out of the spotlight, who is Brandon Fugel. He's a guy who's made a lot of money in a variety of entrepreneurial prices. He's the CO founder and owner of Coldwell banker commercial advisors, a huge real estate company. Purchased a lot of real estate himself. His Bio is written for the History Channel Show where he makes appearances, the secret of Skin Walker ranch says as the Chairman of Colliers International in Utah Brandon is one of the most prominent businessmen and real estate developers in the Inter Mountain West. It's got a lot of money by his own admission. Brandon's a bit of a sci-fi nerd. He has large movie memorabilia collection complete with the shot up jacket Arnold Schwarzenegger the Terminator and the Black Robe Marlon Brando warned Superman. The movie when he sends General Saad to an attorney and crypto inter dimensional prison system like bigalow he's always dreamed of the possibilities of the paranormal an extraterrestrial you know the possibilities they represented for technology. Do Thousand, ten, he and several other investors launched a project focus on testing gravitational physics theories involving exotic propulsion in renewable energy and really simple terms. It was an attempt to create a gravitational reduction device. They could produce clean energy didn't work but that failure didn't let You know didn't stop Fugel from from making more purchase like Skin Walker. Ranch. He continues to invest in launch other technology companies from various software ventures to most recently company that has developed a shoebox size high performance liquid. chromatograph that enables immediate analysis of various liquids such as blood. And feudals interest in extraterrestrial led him to being introduced to budget. Bob Bigelow Fuego later say it was an honor to meet? Mr Bigalow. He's a very intriguing fellow. I consider him a friend and bigelow aerospace reminded me of James Bond Villain Layer. Very cool. The to God's discussing can walk a ranch fuego was intrigued. He flew in on his private helicopter assess the property and purchased can walk ranch following months of legal negotiations. When he was asked by vice if he himself had experienced any definite ufo sightings at the ranch, he curiously dodged the question. He said a shockingly high number of people who I consider normal have had ufo sightings on the property and they have not broadcast it. I've had some very credible and highly respected people tell me their stories. Many of those individuals have been with others who all simultaneously saw aerial anomaly. All I can say about that. So interesting that carries a lot more weight with me Terry Sherman's bullshit. Almost offer a bit now I think I'm back on team. Some alien type stuff is probably actually happened. It's Kim Walker ranch a feudal is committed to studying the ranch from a scientific perspective as for my team he said device my scientists will be working on releasing reports and information on a peer reviewed basis in the future you know in order for something to be properly understood from a scientific perspective, it has to be characterized physically. You have to have repeatable results it can be anecdotal it can't be random. There have to be physical laws that government and right now, what we're doing is trying to gain a better understanding or a new understanding relative to the physical laws that are being challenged right now. So go get him brandon. Give the world proof. We all want find that damn wormhole Scotch Catch Skin Walker don't let Terry T. off the bat this time. On March thirty, first two, thousand, twenty secrets of skin Walker ranch premiers on the history channel futile participates in the show as he does his assembled team as they continue to search for the unknown at Skin Walker ranch to this day. And that brings us to the. Of this week's highly unusual and extremely interesting time suck timeline. Good job shoulder your made it back. there. What a crazy tail and so what really is going on out of skin Walker Ranch before I? Try to answer that we need to take one a sponsor break. Today's Times is brought to you by woody's supplies and more spectral emporium. Janson? Jeremy. Your favorite paranormal buffet and I'm bringing back my original product. What is paranormal repellent? Have we talked about even rape yet? No we haven't, and that's why you need to buy if you're anywhere near Skin Walker ranch as a matter the only thing. Happened there yet someone's Vagina and rebuts bound to get buggered. Basket. Or SAS plotter demon main by the time travel. Jazz blue jacket her maybe by monster water snake, they could be demonic. Even and So. I spray if it's been. Two years since I I try to sell it. Turns government's gone. I haven't seen in my son novel known I'm Hungry Sabre the dumpster time. To sipping last strip to my dog malt liquor from bottles, I find him allies if you. Curse on you. Will be forever whatever evil squad played debating this can walk. Ninety, nine, a bottle, this monsters it's balance one get one free. Wow Who Of course would he would show after being missing for months and this suck Poor woody he just right when I think he's hit rock bottom he's seems like he's slips further. Right Terry Sherman never claimed to have seen he at the ranch should be accosted by some point. Old Friend of the show if you're confused new listener. Okay. I'm back now here's a brief run through of the most popular theories about what the fuck is going on skin Walker ranch theory. One that is that the whole thing is a massive decades-long legalist faulk military PSI OPS. Program operation. Sign up is short for psychological operations, which are operations designed to influence a targeted emotions motives objective reasoning. The purpose of the United States I ops is to induce or reinforce behavior favorable to US objectives a well-known sipe occurred during world. War Two The first radio section of the I m RBC recorded POW interviews for frontline broadcast and reproduce the sound effects of vast numbers of tanks and other motor vehicles for allied armored units in attempts to mislead German intelligence and lower. German morale. sometimes, it's hard to tell if something's deci upper, not many things at the top of Saddam Hussein's statue in Baghdad was a sigh up as in it was designed to become an iconic image and wasn't these spontaneous event it appeared to be. So is skin Walker ranch like the biggest sigh up Terry Sherman himself as long suspected that his former property was a secret military testing ground of course of course. Yes. he feels that users advanced military technology ranging from Stealth aircraft who portable cloaking devices were running around Willy Nilly on the ranch terry thought the user's behavior indicates the residents and the reactions to the phenomena were being monitored to. I don't feel I. Felt. There's there's there isn't a conspiracy that Terry probably doesn't believe the Shermans were just as much as part of the experiment as the tech according to, Terry, it could be true. Could the military really be testing exotic cutting EDGE TECHNOLOGIES ON RANCHERS OUT UTAH I mean I don't know I guess it's possible. It's not that much crazier than Save Project M. K. Ultra. Continue with the secret military stuff line of thought some people believe this can walk a ranch in the surrounding area lies on top of a deep underground military base or dumb where the military produces these strange technology. Sherman's big lows in other scientists are in bigalow scientists saw on the ranch. Gordon some explain some of the underground rumblings off industrial noises heard in. NORTHERN UTAH. I don't know I mean the US military certainly has the funding to dig random tunnels hollow out mountains to build secret basis. But would they really use said basis to fuck with the minds of their constituents and to what end? The second theory is the oldest theory that the land is literally cursed curse by possibly ancient natives maybe more recent indigenous people or I dunno dinosaur ghosts who knows why not? As we've seen anything is possible. Skin Walker ranch. seriously. Though some people do believe that someone lost a history did cursed this land long long ago. another theory, one of the weirdest is at the area possesses some form of super consciousness meaning. Basically, the land itself is alive and Clicks where wolves, watches, and hobbits and shit. The Sherman's of course are. or open to this possibility. So hard not to sit on them just constantly They claimed they'd often felt the presence of this super intelligence that it was actively eavesdropping on them and This was apparently confirmed when the intelligence reacted to an offhand remark gwen wants mate. She briefly mentioned Terry her fear of something bad happening to her new prize. Bulls. Immediately afterward. Terry goes outside is shocked to find those very are nowhere to be found. Than they do their missiles and then the condition they find them in defies explanation, the animals are discovered lined up neatly placed into a locked trailer not only that they're staring off into space if they somehow got switched off and were in a complete trance, the very second that Terry Sherman opens a traitor those come to life is if someone had just une paused them. As crazy as all this is the possible sentient pre cognitive intelligence existing and making its presence known in and around skin walk ranch eventually became one of the prevailing theories among bobber and ideas researchers their findings pointing to the conclusion that an unknown intelligence which could predict events was attempting to interact with people in a variety of lace. Another popular theory is the ranch as a portal to another dimension because of a tunnel between dimensions or rip or some other aberration, some multi-diverse Shit the things that dimension keeps showing up in this dimension like like squash us and also a super weak but also very hard to kill Skin Walker will thing. So is this random place in Utah Gateway to another dimension. As, we mentioned according to I witness testimony from both the Sherman and IDs researchers. Random portals have appeared about the landscape on several occasions and you strange creatures supposedly came busting out of them or would into them or both. This idea I should note did not actually originate with Sherman's local tribal or has long described the appearance of doorways to other worlds particularly dark or underworld. That's a mirror image two hours. And the theory is that there are real genuine aliens on or passing through Skin Walker ranch all the time in a long list of possible explanations. At least hundred of them have something to do with extraterrestrial life. One is the aliens or running psychological testing on their favorite earth's their their favorite meat sex us. One last theory before we recap one, we already talked about. that. All these people have essentially just made this shit up. Out of the mice, maybe they just live in an area that actively encouraged group might rather than individual mind and these people have managed to get themselves false memories from other suggestions I mean, the human brain is a crazy thing. Weird stuff. I have a hard time believing this one that I used to partially because recent. And declassifications from the federal government have shed New Light on. UFO's have shown just how serious the government is taking the possibility of extraterrestrial life making contact with Earth. Perhaps, if we wait long enough to foil hatters who've been warning us about the multidimensional shape shifting reptiles, the annuity that skin walkers, our leaders will prove themselves to be right all along. Won't that be fun if David David I I told you I would say, ninety s I told you reptilians are real. Munoz lot of possibilities. Recap. Lots of pieces to the strange strange story. We didn't cover all of them. There's there's been hundreds and hundreds not thousands of sightings and encounters. We did cover of them We talked a lot about skin walkers SASQUATCH. Fat Alien Students. I'm kind of flying saucer. Office Dr. Weird. Knock Confrontational Bulletproof Wolf Skin Walker thing. strange traveler who were weird blue sparkly outfit under is normal outfit. We mentioned dinosaur bones, giant monster snakes, butterflies, dogs. skin was a ranch. Land the. fucking lost. We mentioned strange blue balls of light seem to scan the Sherman's some Predator like camouflaged aliens. We didn't really touch on poltergeists demonic shit but people also reported those claims over the years. Let me at least reference it. Now, in some stories, the ghost of a little girl on Skin Walker ranch whose voice can be heard faintly in multiple languages. Some people believe in an entity called the dark one said to be a shaman who serves as a gatekeeper to the portals found in the area These tales seem more fitting for my scared to death podcast. As, much as I joke around, I find all the super fascinating so much being reported in such a small geographical area. I can't think of anything comparable like Bermuda Triangle comes to mind but that is a much bigger area with a lot less reports or you know many less reports of super weird very specific crazy should happen time is something going on a little patch a high desert you know in northern eastern you talk you know settled by homes John Meyers over a century ago. Like I said earlier in the episode like I say all the time on scared if just one if just one of these accounts is true, then our world has gotten a lot bigger a lot weirder. I'm. GonNa Choose to believe that at least some of these accounts are true partly because of the sheer volume reported encounters and mostly because I just want to. What you believe he's still have to make up your own mind is GonNa be a lot of opinions on this one time now for top five takeaways I-. By Number one legends of crazy shit happening in the skin Walker Ranch area or thousands of years old with the first native lead of the Walker possibly recorded in Iraq engraving the Buckhorn draw pictographs panel. In the San Rafael Swell just one, hundred, eighty, four miles from skin Walker ranch number two hundreds if not thousands of people have reported seeing UFO's in the Utah based in area over the last decades. Is it all crowd psychology false memories people desperate to one up each other or something or some things? Are they really out there? Number three skin walkers or terrifying. Essentially evil witches they can drive you insane kill. Livestock generally ruin your life. If you see one, do not pull a Terry Sherman Star swinging a bat. Number four, skin Walker ranch's regular cornucopia of scripted otherwise paranormal critters, big feet, skin walkers, aliens, snakes, demons, all possibly dicken around some kind of desert dinosaur graveyard. Number Five, new Info. There are actually a few Bob Lazar connections to skin Walker ranch of those you who aren't familiar bizarre was the first person to provide information on area fifty one to the public and claim to have worked on reverse engineering and alien craft in a secret facility amongst other clamps. His interview with Joe Rogan Netflix specials every popularized store in recent years and made me rethink his level of credibility I am starting to wonder if maybe Bob is in quite is full of shit as I once thought. Because above that, we really. Know about area fifty one in terms of you know alien lower. Fifty. One is is part of what some Internet experts have called. The Bermuda Triangle of, ufo's the other two points being Roswell New Mexico and Dun Dun da skin ranch. And here's another link between Lazar skywalker Ranch George knapp The guy that wrote the book on the Ranch is the same investigative reporter who interviewed Lazar in nine, hundred, eighty nine when the story first broke and he's a co producer on the on the Lazar documentaries czar area fifty one and flying saucers. Takeaway. Skin. Walker ranch has been sucked a lot of fun. So much weird shit. What does this Sherman's really did experience everything they've claimed. I. Guess if that's true. 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Four days later, the SLA demands at the hearst family give money for food to every needy person from Santa Rosa to Los Angeles. Randolph hearst reluctantly gives away two million dollars, but the SLA says not enough and demand six million more than she gets even crazier in one of the most famous cases of Stockholm Syndrome Patty would soon join her captors in committing crimes and participate in an armed robbery of a San Francisco Bank. And then another robbery in Los Angeles. Then in a tape sent to authorities, she declares that she has joined the SA of her own free will what the fuck her kidnapping will culminate in California's largest raid, a major crime free that leave at least one person dead and a trial that will captivate America do not miss next week suck on the kidnapping of Patty hearst nelas head on over to this week's time sucker updates. Times. Going to start off today with some cool additional Disney info governor from coming in from Super Sucker Dakota my. Dakota writes hey suck master I just wanted to say, I'm disappointed. You didn't mention why Mickey Mouse another beloved characters wear gloves is because when the original shorts were made, they were in black and white meaning that you wouldn't be able to see the contrast between Mickey's fingers not a huge thing. But something I'd never thought about before just a short update. So I won't apologize for the long email love that's been running thing now. Keep on Sucking Dakota MacAulay. We'll keep on second to Kota Awesome Info and it doesn't make sense I would have never guessed that though actually never questioned the fact that he's wearing gloves which in hindsight seems seems odd I mean it's kind of weird. He doesn't have a fucking shirt, but he has gloves on. No shirt. 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This had made a pass all of the new cameras cops on campus and the teachers when I spotted motion for my friend Tommy, who is behind this kid to take a look we immediately questioned him about it hoping he was just carrying a piece to a gun not the real thing turns out it was his paintball gun. He wanted to scare us with it. He had brought it as a test run for the following week. He figured if he could get through, he wouldn't have a problem. With whatever weapons and such he was planning to bring later he was right until I saw the glint of light hit the barrel. We had no idea when we first when we turned him in the following raid led to a list, he dubbed I to go that had fifty names. My friend Tommy was number one I was number three q months of counseling and testifying authorities had columbine not happened in the same calendar year I may not have ever thought twice about it kids used to bring paintball guns and knives to school all the time in my rural Pennsylvania town. 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Air illy or Air Hillbilly President Day Mush mouth suck master my name is. I've been a fan of yours for well over a decade standup crazy with capital. F. Is by far my favorite standups. Thanks man I apologize this email may be a tad long as it has a story. Shout. My coworker Mike whom I made fun of for listening to podcasts introduced me to the wonderful world of time. Suck episode five. Great. Clown scare of two thousand sixteen hooked me in because it literally made me laugh until I cried because I relate to it. So well, fuck poltergeist and fuck clowns. Not to mention I was born and raised, and still live in North Spokane in work in Hayden next to Correlate Airport Oko between your stand up and time suck. It makes daily commute that much less miserable. Thank you for that to kick it way back I want to tell you a quick story regards to shadow people he. Let. Me Start by saying I'm not at all a person who believes in spirits or ghosts with that particular episode. Gave me straight up goosebumps because when I was younger I had an experience. I. Never shared with anyone I literally relive this moment in my mind when listening to the episode. I had to have been about eight or ten years old I slept alone in the basement all the time and. Right away I'm like why? I still to this day personally feel it was a sleep paralysis asleep paralysis based nightmare, but it is always stuck with me. I was just nodding off when the nightmare began a recall seeing my bedroom floor covered in hundreds of red is all funneling into my closet Jesus as I lay there quietly watching the scene unfold in the closet being silent slightly agape I could see all those is converge into one black mass out of fear. I closed my eyes for a second upon opening my eyes I can. Only, see a massive black figure that filled my closet to the top a second later to large red eyes pop open towards the top of the esque mask the human ask Mass I stare quietly added as it quietly stares at me a secular my closet began to slowly open in the monstrous red I'd figure began to emerge slowly towards me at this point in time I began to scream bloody murder my father ran down to make sure I was okay at which point my open closet was naturally empty. My had may have chewed my ass but I've never been happier for an ass chewing mainly because he was there with me I've never felt fear like that to this day still gives me chills as I write this hit. That's a fucking terrible nightmare release. All this being said I truly was hoping by some miracle you get this and could help me out with a shout for dear friend of mine. By longtime friend Chris who's been battling cancer for years now has recently received news that this is one battle he will not win. I'm fighting back tears as I write this and I'm at a loss for words but I do have this to say Chris, I love you like a brother and I'm grateful I had the privilege of having you as my friend who I share so many amazing experiences with from the but clinching rides and Mexico to the safety I surprise you guys in the car these are memories. I shall cherish and share for the rest of my days. I. Can't imagine what you're going through now but just know this I'm here with you to the end I might be an asshole but I'm a good Aso and that means I will always be right behind you. Talkin Shit. I mean this from the bottom of my heart, you always have a special place in my heart in throughout his life and beyond you always be one of the best friends it's world has to offer. Thank you for always being there when I was at my lowest. Thank you all the laughs in good times always into the wind just to think of you your friend always and Forever Cam. 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He would tell me that the birds were real and we're GONNA fly down in the middle of the show and peck out or is. was about ten or eleven. My father said that because him and my mom were glasses, they were saved from the birds. He played a lot of jokes on me. So I knew he was bullshitting, but the kid in line behind us did not. We go in sit down on the show starts the bird starts singing and the kids crying his dad is trying to calm him down throughout the whole show afterwards, we all stand up to leave a guy starts pushing through other people be lining for my dad this was a big guy. My Dad rushed us out of the attraction and ran away from the dead. We never saw that data again but I think of this anytime I think at Disneyland I thought you would all get a good chuckle out of this. Thanks for all. You do keep on sucking Liz all as I. Love that Love That Message Love, your dad. Tell Your Dad. I. Love. Halo Safina he's he's got some rascal in him. It's good makes life more fun. 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Just been being down by Alien, I'm pretty sure. They were fighting the two of them with. The giant water snake and I thought. This is this is how I prove my manhood. My got my bat. I approached them as it got closer fucking Leprechaun sucker punched me. As I got amber leprechaun get away from trying to fight the Unicorn in the SASQUATCH. So now I'm wrestling with this Leprechaun. and. That's going to Cuba cowher kicked right in the Dick. Skin Walker Rats, why must you work so hard to defeat me When I gave up at him ashamed to admit it I gave up and I-. I- levitated I've recently learned levitating. and. I went back and. That was that was what drew me to the ranch and years later, I Terry Sherman would, of course, purchase some land and. Trying to get my revenge and I don't know it's funny thing right? The creatures whatnot. Anyway, I gotta go I gotta go up in raising some some Gremlin seldom for money online. The real realms. 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521a Berner Oberland; T.T. Williams' Utah; The Philippines

Travel with Rick Steves

51:19 min | 8 months ago

521a Berner Oberland; T.T. Williams' Utah; The Philippines

"Things you'll see when you hike in the Swiss Alps. If you time it right you can even watch the cows being paraded down from their grazing meadows. They got their bells on and to really the bigger. The bell is the more prestigious. That cow is. They're all pedigree for warmer vacations. Kiki dear says you can't beat the Philippines. It has some of the best diving in the world. You can go swimming with Welsh shocks. You can track in Angel of rice. Terraces do can even hike up. Active volcanoes and Terry Tempest Williams explains how she bought oil leases on Federal Land Near Her Home Mixed Arches National Park at rock bottom prices. We purchase them at a discount of one dollar fifty cents an Acre if you can imagine that are public lands for sale to lease oil and gas for less than a cup of coffee. What'S THE UTAH worth to you. Let's explore together in the our head on travel with Rick Steves. It's looking like the government is declared war on America's public lands at least that's how Terry Tempest Williams sees the trump executive order that rescinded federal protections. In her home. State of Utah. She tells us what's at stake and the innovative ways. She became what she calls a conservation buyer to prevent drilling near where she lives. Just outside of MOAB. We'll hear her story in just a bit on today's travel with Rick Steves and a British travel writer tells us why the Philippines is one of her favorite places anywhere in the world. Where at eight? Seven seven. Three three three seven four to five. If you only ever get to visit one place in Switzerland I'd recommend the Berner Oberland. It's the high country round. Enter some of the most famous mountain peaks in the Alps. There are dozens of hiking trails. That take you through glacial valleys to enjoy wildflowers and waterfalls Golo. It's my favorite place for taste of traditional Swiss mountain living in some of the most stunning scenery. You ever see when he lived there. Don Camera wrote a detailed guide to the hiking trails of the Bernese highland. He's here to help us get ready for an afternoon. Hike in the mountains done welcome pleasure dumb. I understand you know the trails of the region so well because you actually lived there for ten years in a little village I Decided to go traveling in one thousand nine hundred sixty and I made Switzerland my base. In fact a little town called Gimmel. I ended up staying at the youth hostel. They're often on for about three years. And then they ended up going up the hill and Managing Walters Hotel Mitha Gorn for about six years and when I first discovered Gimmel. You're already there. I think and I was still at the youth hostel. Utah's blend there's some graffiti on the wall upstairs in the Hustle says if Heaven's not what it's cracked up to be send me back to gavel. Yes people just fell in love with Gamma fault. What what are your memories of just away from the tourism but just living in this little community high in the Swiss Alps without any traffic or where almost everybody has the same last name. Well it was kind of what I was looking for this little quiet small village. Nobody spoke English back there. Twenty years ago. It's a little bit different now. There's people that speak English because of of the tourism that's in the area But it was just a small dairy farming community. The youth hostel run by Lena. Remember Lena Lena she's like human goat. Lena yeah she She charged I think three or four francs for the youth hostel. So people didn't really come to stay for the night or tune as they stay for weeks and sometimes like myself and you could cook for the price of groceries. Alpine commute ten cents to cook To Cook Food. And then moving up to Walter's. Walters was an inexpensive hotel with about thirty eight bids but it had a million dollar view hotel mid dog horn. If you have the of the Doug Horn and much more. When people go to Switzerland a lot of people go to the famous towns. So they'll go to interlocken. I want to Interlocken for several years before I realized all the magic is up. The Hill town says you know. They're they're utilitarian there. That's where you can pick up your groceries or validate your train pass or whatever but then you go to the high country and south of Interlaken which means between the two lakes Lake Tune. In speeds south of interlocken is a valley in at branches in left and right to the left is Grendel gold and that's famous in so many ways and all the big tour buses go there and there's all the resort hotels but to the right you've got louder Bruin Valley and that's the value fell in love with and that I fell in love with describe loud to Brunen valley and even the name Louder Brennan could mean lauhgter. Mitch means many and Brennan or springs or or water sources and in the value. Got Over seventy waterfalls. That are kind of falling off the side. Now I've I've driven up that valley in a sunny dry times and I kinda go. What waterfalls but then if you come there after a big rainstorm. It's just thunderous with waterfalls. All around you. Yeah those seventy become a hundreds. It's busy in the ski time and busy in the hiking time When you're there in the hiking time you still use all the ski lifts to get around. Describe some of your lift options from the valley floor. There's two ways that you can go onto the ones that you can take a cable car up to grew chump Hike or take the train to Marin. And if you want to go up higher you're going to be taking funicular to almond who will maybe or a cable car up to the chiltern even across the valley. You've got the Ume Frau Yolk incredible tunnel through the EIGER. All the way up to the top of the saddle below the young fro yum. How tall do you have any idea how tall that is? How something like ten eleven thousand thousand feet? It's above ten thousand because you can feel the attitude. You get a little bit dizzy when you get up. There's nothing to be concerned about. I always feel a winded. When I go up there climb the steps and I just feel like I got to get in shape but then I remember. Oh I'm at eleven thousand feet. I can cut myself a little slack. Exactly I mean. They have a written all over the place. Don't you feel like this? Don't worry about. It is normal natural. Just slow down sit down and slow down and then this mountain lift tunnels through the Eiger. It actually stops halfway up the north face of the EIGER and the ultimate challenges for rock climbers. And you look out halfway up this cliff. You're looking down on the lower horn. Which is where they have the World Cup almost every year. You're looking out towards interlocken. So you're looking northward so you can kind of see the lowlands and then you can see you can see burn from those little windows at you're looking and you may now nowhere to look but there are probably rock climbers frozen hanging on the. I was going to see. Some of them are really with US anymore. They're just hanging there and they can't get to them the helicopters inaccessible so they know that there but they can't rescue them. This is travel with Rick Steves. We're talking with John Kamara about hiking in the burner overland in the burner overland. You can really experience a lot of amazing folk culture. The traditions survive very well in these high community at least survive. I don't know about very well. I understand the Swiss government recognizes the value of some of these traditional industries. And doesn't just let it die. The death of this small family farm in the United States but but subsidizes. So it's it carries on what's the case there? Why would they do that? Well they like to have the dairy farming industry for example to to continue a tradition It's a way of life and there are people that are many bulow still in the dairy farming industry. But it's not. It's not a living that you can really make a living at considering the economic situation of Switzerland when everybody's making much more than a farmer would so the farmers need to be subsidizing needs to go to the big city and become software programmers exactly so they're struggling but they're surviving these small family farms and we can see that business metabolism and we can actually sleep in some of these places because many rent out beds done commercials. Our guest right now travel with Rick. Steves Michael in Chumsford Massachusetts joins us on the line at eight seven seven three three three rick. He has a question about hiking in the Swiss Alps. I Michael decided as a monk to take my summer trip to Switzerland and I'm going to spend a couple of days in Bernie's open land. I'm really excited. And I just want to know what are the some of the best Hiking trails one can take to get the most iconic view of the young crowd among the Eiger That is the ultimate sort of Panorama. The memo canoe the three great peaks. What is it done? The Immune Val Mahnken Ogre. What does that mean in Swiss German the monk and the Froth Eiger is an ogre an ogre yeah and the monk is a monk a religious monk and the young fellas young maiden so got the monk protecting the young maiden from the older the ogre. Exactly Oh what. A charming frozen. Ice Glacier filled a scenario now Michael wants some of the classic views in the Burner Orlando. You lived of the algorithmic in the for. Yeah you can get that a couple of different ways. Downloadable evaluators the shelter inside and then. There's the vague insider the the client shedding side that would be where the rallies I can young really right in front of the clannish. I dig right but you don't have to get the client to get the view of the of the monk and the young crowd. It is a fantastic view. And the right in front of you when you get there which is taking a train from Lauder Brunen to hang on and then you can continue on by train to climate. And that's where the train starts if you want to. That goes up in the mountain into the eiger through among young frog. Or you can look at the views and I sometimes think they might even be better from the other side Schilthorn side in louder bring you take the cable. Corrupt grew job train or walk to Muren even just a train ride or walking to Muren. You see the monk in the young for the training. Self you take the funicular up to good shop and then this it's built for the view in fact what's the name of that train the Panorama fart that part is the German word exotic journey Panorama journey. And that's the Panorama far trained that goes from Grachov to Mirren And just on a sunny day. There's nothing like it but Michael. You you're going to be there and you're going to be bathed in views everywhere you look. There's views and there's famous views there's less Amos views but there's a little place game of all the DINU may remember. I just loved when there was a moon rise going just a couple hundred yards away from hotel. Duggan sitting a bench but thank the is like the farmers in the village place to these three or four benches right there and you could sit there and it's just it's silent it's twilight and there's a village below you. And there's a few farmers to puttering around and you know the cowboys are happy. And then you see the moon rising over the peaks. It's just is something magic about that view. I just got a lot of therapy out of that view. I think Michael you've got to go over there and check it out. Yep Thank you by the Berner. Oberland in the middle of the Swiss Alps is our destination. And Don Camera is our guide right now on travel with Sixty Kathleen joins us on the line from San Francisco. Hi Kathleen find out. What's the best time to go seasonally for the weather to take the hiking trails in the area up there and the Burner Open? Land does a couple of different ones. That are really good. I particularly like June end of May June. Because that's when the flowers are blooming If you go in the fall which is also nice September. The leave started change and the hillside is is on fire with color. I like the summer anytime in the summer for just the reliable weather in the long days and the warmth August is a very good in fact. One of my favorite Christmas is ever was gaveled grass in the winter. It is gorgeous in the winter but the hiking is limited. No there's no then and I went up with my favorite hotelier Walter where you worked and we went up to Marin and and we sled it down on the trail. I did the same thing with Walter. It's beautiful isn't it and beat me down and there's a classic Old Hotel Your He. He was like a little kid when he sat on his sled. Just that here's a Swiss boy at heart forever. He must've been eighty years old when we did this. Get Lean. Thanks for your call. Thanks this is travel with Rick Steves. We've been talking with John. Kamara about the heights. And the Culture Switzerland's Berner Oberland Don. I've always been charmed by the when the cows come down from the high metal. This is not something that's just in the story books. This actually happens. I was just recently there and after a long hike I heard this tinkle tinkle. Choi coming down the mountain. Well yeah talks about how that happens. What's the deal? Well throughout the year that animals are taken up to higher pastures. So that they can be set. Free and munch on the meadows and as the weather starts to get colder. They bring the cows down a little bit a little bit and eventually have to bring back to the to the local town to injure their barnes for for the winter and they've got their bells they got their bells on and it really. The bigger. The bell is the more prestigious. That cow is they're all pedigree and not only do they have bells to have flowers on their heads and the the farmers that are bringing the cows. Downer also dressed in traditional clothing twentieth. Twenty-first is lake past centuries alive. Yep and we can experience it done Kamara. Thanks so much and take some time. I get the pleasure. If there was a contest for most colorful nation on earth the Philippines might be a good bit. We'll explore the nation of seven thousand islands in just a bit but first when the bidding sagged on an oil and gas lease sale for drilling on federal land. Utah the auctioneer joked. Come on man. This is a lotta scenery going to waste well. Writer and environmental activist. Terry Tempest Williams was in the room. She explains why she and her husband bid on those unsold parcels and why they created tempest exploration LLC as the first energy company devoted to keeping fossil in the ground that Utah Terry Tempest Williams. That's next on travel. With Rick Steves hiking in the Red Rock wilds of the Utah Desert. It might soon notice and unusual sound listen closely and you may hear mining oil drilling on what used to be federally protected land or maybe it's just the sound of Teddy Roosevelt spinning in his grave. Ever since President Roosevelt signed the Antiquities Act nineteen o six to create national monuments that protect natural and cultural heritage sites across America. There's been pushback from some industrial interests. For the last few years Terry Tempest Williams has been writing columns in the New York Times and elsewhere about the battle going on in her native. Utah on one hand are her neighbors. Who Support the trump administration's removing protections on many federal lands especially at bears ears. National Monument on the other hand are those who prefer the type of tourism a quiet wilderness attracts and note the warning from tribal leaders that thousands of their ancestors. Archaeological sites are at risk of now being open for business. Utah's rich with more than a dozen parks and monuments run by the National Park Service and the Bureau of land management when Terry found there. Were no takers for oil and gas leases. That was offering near her home. She and her husband got an idea. She joins us now to tell us about it into explain why. Utah remained such a special place for her. Terry thanks for being with us again. Thank you record is love our conversations Terry Utah you happen to live in a state that has what five national parks and seven National Monuments. And you grew up there. What does Utah Mean to you? Utah is bedrock. It's family. It's where the bones of my ancestors dwell six generations. I come from a a Mormon family. my roots for an American Westerner Who is white are are deep and my devotion is is very real. Terry wrote that. You had a seminal moment as a child. Pornography Cave National Monument. What happened I loved Him Pinocchio? It's a mountain in the shape of a woman and we are told from the time we have a memory that this is where the spirit of the maiden of Tim. Focus lives and every time you drive by from Provo Utah to Salt Lake. You see her as a child. I could swear that I saw her breathe. This is A story told by people and I remember a ute grandmother who I knew as a child told me that inside that mountain was the beating heart of the maiden so when I was eight years old our Church group which is Mormon. I decided that upon our baptism into the church. We would hike up to mount timber notice and enter this cave. It's about a mile and a half straight up. We were there. I remember these iron green doors. They open there was a park ranger. We entered inside the mouth of the cave. The temperature dropped. It was humid here. Were these stalactites. Stalagmites registered his teeth. We started walking on this raised path. So that you weren't stepping on the stalagmites and there we walked through this magical these magical forms called father. Times jewel box the valley of sleep but I could hardly concentrate all I could think of is. Where is the beating heart of the maiden of the mountain in there? It was large wet huge. I wondered if you attached it. Would it register as cold or Hot? I was completely mesmerized so much so that I failed to continue walking with the rest of my group. Suddenly the lights went off. The door slammed and I was left in the heart of the mountain with the darkness. I have never known. I can't tell you when fear turned to wonder. But what I can tell you is that I felt that beating heart even as my own. I don't know how long I was there but suddenly I heard the door opened the light. Go on and there was my primary team saying. Oh you're saved but I wanted to say you didn't save me. The mountain did and I think for the rest of my life. I've been trying to find that same experience of being held that closely to that kind of power and dare I say love. You know every time I go into a national park. I meet the miraculous. But if I'm honest I think I'm still searching for that sense of And Majesty wonder and fear that I felt in those moments of of being inside that mountain next to that heart. You mentioned the tribe. Is that where Utah comes from? It's the indigenous people that live there. I UTA yes. Yes because that experience you had. It's seems like it's almost trying to duplicate inexperience Indian. Kids might have had as they came of age and gained an appreciation of nature. You know I don't know My Friend Regina Lopez White Skunk who viewed? I have so much respect for her sense of circles and cycles in the land her deep sense of politics and protection on. She was one of the members of the bears. Ears intertribal commission who has fought so diligently to protect these lands that are under siege By this current administration. And so you know I think native people they stay. And that's what I want to model is. How do we stay and be loyal to a place have a fidelity place? Yeah if closeness to the land is is a good thing. They have an advantage built in that we can be. I think aspire to they also know what it means to have it removed and I think we are just now beginning to touch on what native people have felt all along as we watch our public lands in a move to be privatized to be sold to the highest bidder. Terry Tempest Williams is our guest on. Travel Rick Steves. She writes about the landscape of her native Utah and her relationship. With twelve of America's national parks in her book called the hour of land. It's now out in paperback. Terry's also writer in residence at the Harvard Divinity School. And she's been a visiting professor in environmental studies at Dartmouth College Terry President. Obama set aside one point three million acres for. Utah's bears ears National Monument back in two thousand sixteen. The trump administration reduced ears by eighty five percent. This is now being challenged in the courts. What are your thoughts on this when you look at laws like the nineteen o? Six antiquities at that protects these wild lands and cultural spaces. I think it it has helped define who we are as Americans that was established with Theodore Roosevelt and I have faith in the open space of democracy and the will of the people but right now I would be lying to you. If I didn't say that I am concerned and and I am standing with native people indigenous people and the tribes that we are closest to Utah. Which would be the Navajo the Hopi the Zuni and other tribes within the Colorado plateau or standing on the side of protecting bears. Ears National Monument. Terry Okay you're talking about the value. The the intangible value really of of a National Monument Lake bears ears. Now what if I just think whether it's a real need energy independence jobs the economy? How can you put a price on the value of over a million acres when when I really think it can help us have a stronger economy and become energy independent? What's so important about bears ears other than what we can mind out of it. It's a great question. And it's one that the trump administration are asking along with many of our county commissioners. But I think it's about long-term concerns and short term gain. I also think it's a myth that's being propagated if you talk to the communities adjacent to bears there's National Monument and particularly Grand Staircase National Monument the Chamber of Commerce and the business people. They're saying that it is booming that they have a shortage of labor that for the first time they have a dentist in town that they are are doing better with a national monument and park near than they were before. So I think this is a myth and when I look at what? Orrin Hatch is advocating. Look at WHO's paying for his campaign and look at who stands to benefit if our national monuments are opened up for fossil fuel companies and. That's what I think we have to think about. I WANNA share with you because I think both these voices are central to our history as utahns. Bernard Devoto who wrote for Harper's magazine wrote in Nineteen fifty one quote. You had better watch this now. And from now on the land grabbers are on the loose again and they can be stopped only as they were before by the effective marshalling of public opinion. We're there and I love these words of Wallace stagner. That was in the same era. Nineteen fifty five year. I was born where he says. Quote it is a better world with some buffalo left in it. A richer world with some gorgeous canyons unmarred by signboards. Dog stands superhighways or high tension lines underground by POWER OR IRRIGATION RESERVOIRS. If we preserved as parts only those places that have no economic possibilities we would have no parks and in the decades to come it will not be only the Buffalo and the Trumpeter Swan who need sanctuaries. Our own species is going to need them to. It needs them now. Now that was in the nineteen fifties when Dinosaur National Monument in Utah was at risk and Bears Years National Monument and Grand Staircase National Monument or risk. I have to believe that by marshalling public opinion by people coming forward those lands will still be protected. Conservation is a generational stance. And that's what I'm seeing now. So it's quite an interesting awareness raising challenge because even your father wrote fracking has freed us from the Arabs. I mean there's this patriotism almost how do we explain that to a world that sees everything in a balance sheet and bottom lines and in numbers? We can imagine the lively conversation. We have around our dinner table and I love my father. There's something very poignant about your own flesh and blood seeing an environmental issue differently than you. I've had the same challenge with my dad in and I think age of us do and we love them and they love us. But it's a spirited conversation so much so rick that my father accompanied me to Theodore Roosevelt National Park where just outside the park boundaries. You see fracking. The Balkan oilfields when my father and I went It was at its boom period. Where a million barrels a day were coming out a day and we went into the town of Williston. We saw them in camps. My father went up and ask some of the men who signs your paycheck. And they couldn't answer him and he saw that they were completely being used in two weeks. On two weeks off trading residency in containers storage container at my father wept. And he said this is not right. I am all for oil. I've made my living by lane pipe in the ground in the West. I'm proud of the scars I've made on this landscape but the city and the scale that is happening now at the expense of both the workforce and the land itself is not right. That's what my father said after that. First statement you mentioned so I think we're changing and it's different time. We're looking at climate change. Fossil fuels will be part of our history. And so as a people we I think we have to stand up and say who we are as Americans what we care about and what we want for the future of our nation and our children in her book. Our of Land Terry Tempest Williams writes that America is at a crossroads. She writes we can continue on the path. We've been on in this nation that privileges prophet over people in land or we can unite as citizens with a common cause the health and wealth of the earth that sustains us she continues if we cannot commit to this kind of fundamental shift then democracy becomes another myth perpetuated by those in power. We're learning about the beauty and challenges Terry Tempest Williams binds in her home state of Utah. Right now on travel with Rick Steves. There's more on her website. Coyote CLAM DOT com for people who care about the environment. He just lay awake at night. Thinking what can I do? You actually purchased land in order to save it from drilling. Can you explain about that? Initiative on the part of you and your husband Yes it was the quarterly oil and gas auction lease option in Salt Lake City. Utah where members of the oil and gas industry. Come TO BID ON. Lisa's then they will develop for fossil fuels Brooklyn. I made the decision. As citizens to purchase some of those oil and gas leases. Which we did we bought two leases one thousand one hundred and twenty acres on a remnant sale they were not leases that the oil and gas companies wanted or chose to bid on we purchase them at a discount of one dollar and fifty cents an Acre if you can imagine that are public lands for sale to lease oil and gas for a dollar fifty. That's less than a cup of coffee. We were asked what kind of energy we were going to develop. And I said you can no longer define what energy means to us the energy. We wish to develop at this moment. In time is the energy to fuel movement to keep our fossil fuels in the ground are. Lisa's have been denied. The Bureau of land management did not give us the leases on the grounds of our intent. Not to drill for oil. We said that we would drill for oil as soon as science could show us that the oil and gas was worth more above ground than below given the costs of climate to our future. What we also said is that the oil and gas companies have no desire or designed to develop those leases that they've purchased until the price of oil rises. So we feel we have been treated unfairly and we have appealed the bureau of Land Management's decision. Our case will go before the Board of Appeals in the Department of Interior and must be interesting for you a well-known Utah and walking down the streets of your hometown to feel the friendship's end the enemies you've made with your outspokenness for the environment. I love my home. And it's worth fighting for and I think people know where I stand. There are many who disagree. There are many that don't and I think it's all part of the conversation and I try not to take it personally. That's hard but you know I look at my father as an example and we have disagreed on many many things but when we bought those oil and gas leases it. Cut Right to the core. This is how my family's made its living and my father said you've made a mockery of our family. A few days later when he saw what was at stake and how serious we were and the injustices that were happening even losing my job at the University of Utah my father is now the CEO of tempest energy company. It's an LLC that we have formed. So I think we're evolving growing. Yes it's painful it's messy. There are costs involved but this is to me what it means to be of place to stay in a place and carry on this conversation together. It's about listening even to the land. Well especially to the Land Terry. Tempest Williams. Thank you so much. For writing the hour of land and inspiring us to learn more about the value of our wilderness. And thank you for reminding us to keep our eyes wide open. The only wrinkle here's Aurora water. Children take method tools for is was stoked. Save you can listen to Terry's earlier conversations with us about her. Favorite National Parks Look in the travel. With Rick Steves archives on our website. Rick Steves DOT com slash radio. You'll find Terry in programs number five seven and four ninety five there from December and August of twenty seventeen. We're at eight seven seven three seven four to five or you can write us at radio. At Rick Steves Dot Com travel writer. Kiki dear takes your calls about the Philippines next stay with US auto abby my new luckily enough Michael. That was the guy. Look for Good Day malaria from Manila Philippines. And I travel with Rick. Steves Addo Monari Malacca my knee. Luckily at Nagoya Physics as a destination the Philippines often gets overlooked by travelers who vacation instead in Indonesia Malaysia or Thailand. If you're looking for white sand beaches some of the world's best surfing and diving and encounters with some of the friendliest people on Earth who also happen to speak English. Our next guest suggests he should put Philippines into your travel and there are more than seven thousand islands to choose from travel writer and photographer. Kiki dear joins us now from London to tell us why the Philippines is one of our favorite places on her. She's written beautifully illustrated journey through the Philippines and unforgettable journey from the Nila to Mindanao Kiki. Thanks for being here. Thank you very much for having me. What distinguishes people's travels these days is experiences? And you know there's a lot of great destinations in in the Pacific Rim that you could visit. Or what are some of the experiences that would make the Philippines really memorable for traveler? Well there are so many which I think make the Philippines. The incredible country that it is it has some of the best diving in the world. You can go swimming with well sharks you can track in age-old rice hearses. You can have a look. Goods are hanging coffins. Love beaches of course are plenty of them with more than seven thousand islands. So there are a plethora beaches where you can relax and enjoy. Enjoy the beautiful waters. You can even hike up active volcanoes. So what's that Lake hiking up? An active volcano is that you do that on a tour. Is there a regular trail with the trail head information centre? Or what's the experience like? Well they're over. Twenty active volcanoes in the Philippines and Mount is the world the most well known and it said to have the world's most symmetrical cone and you can you can trick up a number of them. Of course. There are various warnings in place at time. So you need to obviously make sure you're you up to date with the current situation. Of course it's highly advise to get a guide. Once you are in the country you need to have a look at the latest situation and then decide whether it's a good idea or not trick up it gets obviously some of them being act in Kennels quite dangerous that's serious business travel writer. Kiki Gears Guide to the Philippines right now on travel with Rick Steves. Her bookcase journey through the Philippines. Kiki posts photos of a world travels on her website and Kiki dear dot com. That's spelled K. I K. D. E. R. E. R. Phone number is eight seven seven three three three seven. Four two five marks on the line from Bonney Lake Washington mark. What's your question for Kiki what I was a child? My father's in the military and we lived in the in the Philippines from sixty three to sixty five and we traveled all over Luzon. We actually went up to the guy rice terraces and Benelli and it was really a wonderful trip and I wondered if you could just tell the people a little bit about the the Guy Laroche Terrace. Absolutely they're actually one of my favorite place in the country. So they're they're up in the news on in the in the year US region which is a mountainous region in the north of the Philippines and they are designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site. And they were they weave around the mountainside and they were hewn out of the mountains about two thousand years ago by the Hugo people which tribe that lives in in the US of Northern Luzon. And it's supposed to trek through the terraces and overnight and traditional food hearts which I think is a highlight of any absolutely any trip to the Philippines. The scenery is simply breathtaking cookie. This is the rice terraces of BONALY BE IN A. U. E. Is that right cracked now? They've been around for two thousand years and they just look dreamy and it's a reminder of the importance of rice to the the Philippine culture. I understand local series race. Three times a day absolutely. It's Royce of course is a staple of Filipino cuisine. In fact more than three times about five times a day even in the afternoon you know you sort of afternoon snack. Royces also consumed even for putting their rice rice cakes and absolutely it's huge consumed along with fish of course to five times a day. How how do they is? It just steamed rice that they would just eat a little bundle of steamed rice or is it cook different ways to make it more resting. Janas normally just steamed and then it's accompanied by could be fish or meat. A lot of meat especially pork is consumed in the Philippines. And that's probably a legacy of the Philippines was a Spanish colony for over three centuries an in Spain is you know they they eat a lot of pork and Adobo is probably the national dish and then Lutron which is talking pig which is consumed widely at important occasion so you know weddings or celebrations. Because you see these big festivals where they have an entire pig that's been cooked up for the occasion. Exactly Hey Mark. Thanks for your call. Thank you very much. Thank you this is travel with Rick. Steves we're talking with key. Her Book Is Journey through the Philippines paging through your book. It's just one thing about the Philippines is just the colorful sort of Cultural Festival. And all of the gorgeous little insights and they mostly cute primates. Tell us about these. Little tiny guys with lovable is yes. The Tashi is who are very sweet very adorable and you can find them in ball. Never curious wide-eyed animals that are one of the world's smallest primates and they way only about one hundred and fifty grams. There's big as the palm of your hand. That tiny they actually look. They look like aliens. Do they run around like squirrels do here where I live or or then? He's given kept. You Not really used to see them bit like Koalas sitting in the trees. They do have quite a high pitched sounds they make and Kiki you know a lot of people would claim that different countries are very hospitable. But it's pretty clear you get a very warm welcome the Philippines. Can you talk about Filipino? Hospitality absolutely I think Filipino. Hospitality is one of the aspects of the Philippines. That that I probably have the most I have never on any of my travels and I must have been very fortunate to have travelled quite extensively. I've never come across anybody as friendly as the Filipinos they are the most welcoming warm people and as you know the Philippines is is quite a poor country but despite all the poverty the people always have a smile on their face and are always ready to share what they have with visitors Geeky. It's interesting that when people go to Asia. They think Thailand or Malaysia Indonesian oftentimes. They don't even consider the Philippines. Why do you think that is well? That's a good question and I have to say it still still baffles. Me traveled as do end up in Cambodia Laos Vietnam Thailand Malaysia suits on the main peninsula. But I think the Philippines has been a sort of extra flight across. I think that may be one of the reasons why people who've overlooked also. It's just one more flight away in it. Is I mean if you already? You know if you're traveling you would fly for example to Singapore Ben Cauca wherever in the morning so there are. People tend to travel a lot to the country's by land whilst of to get to the Philippines. You need an extra flight. What about President Duty? I mean he's getting what he should be. Getting horrible presses just killing people outside of the law just for being related to the Drug Industry. There is that a concern for. I mean it's a horrible thing and a lot of people would understandably not want to patronize that. With their with their tourist dollar on the other hand you could go there and just help connect that country with the rest of the world through tourism which is a great secondary value of Tourism What are what are your thoughts about do tae and the current situation and how it might impact a traveler considering going to the Philippines to say it has been quite a lot about Preston the Philippines and there was already quite a lot of bad press on the Philippines before because of Mindanao and regional unrest. There so I think possibly that's actually another reason why people have have been put off visiting but I have to say that once you are actually in the country it you don't really. Of course there is crime like there is anywhere but I never felt any safer than traveling in the Philippines and as a female so trumpeter I think that's saying something so it's a very big country and there are a Muslim that are angry and they've got some extremists there. That are violent. You've got killings in every country but there's thousands of killings done by the government to make real serious point about. We're not going to allow any drugs. In this society. Apparently drugs have been had a ravaging effect on the community. Or I don't know what's driving him but you're saying as tourist you go there and you're you're almost oblivious to that yes absolutely or at least that's how. I felt but again the areas where there is regional unrest specifically Mindanao which is in the south where it is a bit of a conflict zone because there are various factions recording for autonomy from for Minnesota. So I strongly suggest of course if travel is a planning on going there then they should check the security situation before but given that there are over seven thousand islands and this is just one of them There is obviously a lot more to see again. All the places that tourists tend to visit or perfectly safe travel writer. Kiki ears taking us to the Philippines right now. Travel with Rick Steves. She writes guidebooks on the Philippines and other Southeast Asia countries for rough guides and Tuttle publishing has released her own photo field guide called journey through the Philippines. Every page is filled with brilliant photos of smiling people in the country's stunning scenery including its spectacular rice terraces waterfalls and Marine Life. And even one of the world's strangest wide eyed primates. Found nowhere else. Honor Kiki when we think of going to the Philippines first of all it has a huge connection with Spain named after King Philip the second of Spain the Philippines. It's the only country in Asia colonized by the Spanish today. it's dominant. Religion is Catholicism The Languages Tagalog. But it's also English. What's the language situation? Traveler will encounter. I think the Philippines is one of the easiest countries to travel around when it comes to languages and the lack of language barriers because it was an American coordinator for a number of years and and there was a huge amount. There is still a huge American influence in the way people dress what people eat even the way they behave and of course in the language because English is the official language. Taganrog is is taught of course at schools as well people speak Tagalog but English is also taught in virtually. Everybody speaks English. How problem into. There's a long history of Western conquest. What Magellan arrived there? What five hundred years ago? Yeah what what can you actually see from the very early times of the European conquest? There's wonderful colonial cities vegan actually comes to mind and that's A. V. I. A. N. Vegan Cra Trojan young and. It was a very important political military center during the Spanish times and actually Chinese citing vessels would leave from their foot of gold and beeswax and other products were brought the coast from the Cordell. Where actually the rice terraces are not that region? I'm and to this day. The historical centers beautifully preserved wooden houses Chinese Mexican in in architecture and many have been converted into guest houses museums. And in fact there are still horsedrawn. Carriages that that you can see it on. The streets invite tourists often take rides in them. So that's probably one of the most beautifully preserved Spanish colonial towns and then there are some pretty exotic things in the countryside that go back to Sort of a mix of Christian and indigenous rituals. You've got this This phenomenon of hanging coffins. You wrote a fascinating article about that. Can you explain the hanging coffins of Sega? Yep so in the town of Sakata which actually was a bit of a behemoth retreat in the seventies ended attracted many artists intellectuals who came here for some peace and quiet and to paint and write and one of its main attractions on fighting these. These hanging coffins. Just hang from a cliff face and the quite extraordinary there are only about one meter about three feet in length and the reason being because the the corpses were buried in the fetal position and this is a tradition that dates back about two thousand years and sadly it's it's something that's dying out. I understand from your article that people were concerned that the bodies wood rot if they put them into the wet ground The dogs would eat them or they could be trophies for head hunters and They decided to hang among these cliffs and curly. Nobody could get them when they're halfway up. A mountain on a cliff cracked talk. About how the Christian beliefs when countries what eighty or ninety percent Catholic today are mixed in with the Indigenous rituals. That were there. Before the Christian colonial powers even arrived fiestas and festivals are huge pay huge part in Philippine culture and many of them are rooted in Christianity and the Spanish win. They they arrived. Introduce a number of fiestas to two towns and various air is an many of us were held in honor of Catholic patron saints largely to criticize the country and a number of them instead of course held for example. The Virgin Mary For example the Florida's Demayo Festival in. May which is one of the country's largest so none of Christian elements have been incorporated in in these age old traditions and Catholic celebrations continued to be celebrated with umbrella enthusiasm Christmas Or the day of the dead When everybody goes to the cemeteries to bring you gifts and food and so on to the dead So people do very much celebrates both Christian fiestas and festivals of course being a Christian country but also That they continue to celebrate ancient traditions from the islands. Kiki imagine nearly everybody goes to the Philippines starts in Manila. Is that a good idea. And what would be some of the highlights of your experience in Manila. Because frankly I hear about a lot of cities around the world. But I don't hear much about Manila. Manila is actually not as daunting as As most people think it is it has some fantastic fantastic museums and a beautiful. Historical Center is called intramurals which in Spanish means within the walls and that was the historic core of the city and the seat of the government during the Spanish colonial times it was originally built to protect the city from invaders and it is today. A huge tourist attraction another major highlight. I guess is is under which is Chinatown which is said to be the oldest Chinatown in the world and one of the highlights. Chinatown is this extraordinary Chinese summitry that was established in the nineteenth century. Kiki when you mentioned that Manila has the oldest Chinatown in the world. It's just a reminder that the country really has a strong melting pot dimension of course there's an indigenous culture but it's also The result of just centuries of bigger and stronger cultures coming in Chinese spanish-american talk a little bit about how how all of these invading cultures shapes the Philippine culture. We experience today well. Firstly in the language like we said before. English is the official language without sudden one of the biggest legacies of the American times and people wear western clothes. If you travel to other countries in South East Asia you will see more. Traditional dress was in the Philippines. People largely dress like we do in the West. They shop in malls there. Many malls in Manila air conditioned very smart malls and of course they practice Catholicism again. This is a legacy of the Spanish Times. Then the Filipinos are extremely devout. Catholics underneath each virtually every town. There is a church and church is also found in the remotest corners of the country. And then you have some little of the country for example in the quarter yet us where the rice terraces all the people who have very ancient traditions that they continue to this day for example they place all that could blow their rice deities that they place in the fields to bring abundant harvest. People continue to observe these ancient conditions whilst at the same time simulating cultures from that have been left from the Americans and the Spanish. This is travel with Rick. Steves who've been talking Kiki dear about the Philippines Kiki a lot of people just rave about the chocolate hills. Take this there. And why is that? So striking for people. Yeah the chocolate hills seventy one of the main attractions tourist attractions of the Philippines and the clinical cost hills. That geologists believed were formed from Corden. Mine Stone over centuries of erosion and. They're they're over one thousand of this cone shaped hills and they all vary in size and in fact when you look at them and also depending on the season that you are the they look like little hills of chocolates hence of course the the name and Kiki we've been talking about you know Manella and a lot of the mainstream kind of dimension to the Philippines but seven thousand islands. Let's finish just with a chance to to go to the one most offbeat and out of the way remote slices of this culture that you would like us to consider if we're trying to put our travel dreams into reality here when it comes to the Philippines so what I was lost in the Philippines like visited by Tana's which is the country's remotest island province. An any gets about thirty or forty foreign travelers per year so literally. Just you know just a handful and it's quite an extraordinary place that has very little in common with the with the rest of the land of the country. The language is different. The food is different. The islands look completely different. The topography is very different. While the rest of the Philippines is largely white sand beaches with gorgeous clearwater. Here there are these rugged cliffs and Very Green Green Hills With meadows whether a buffalo and horses and castle an fight it reminded me a lot of islands and islands of jagged coastline. And it's very interesting. You could take a boat to nine and call subtitling which is very quiet. Little place where we're houses are built of stone and the reason for this is because the stone to withstand the destructive typhoons that very often hit these islands that sounds like a way to capture Philippine experience. If you can get there absolutely. And if emily goes there they're going to bump up the total amount of tours to to the but Donna's islands by a substantial amount. Kiki dear. Thanks so much for your insight into the Philippines and Congratulations on your book journey through the Philippines. Thank you thank you. Lan- grabble Steve is produced. At Rick Steves Europe in Edmonds Washington by Tim. Tappan is a Kaplan Wilner and Casimiro Hall. Thank for studio help this week to the BBC's woven house in London and Wfan de Dartmouth College in New Hampshire. There's more online at Rick Steves dot com slash radio. Rick Steves has spent a third of his adult life in Europe. 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"It's Thursday on the ecology Sports quick take which means it's time for a program Spotlight. The list is getting long but there are still planning to cover today with headed to Salt Lake City Utah. I'm your host Mister Ames. The University of Utah has been a leader in Esports since 2017 that year the university became the first Power V University to open a varsity program three years later and they were made one of the select few after being joined by Missouri and Oklahoma. So what is a power five school? It's a term that originated within college football to separate the five conferences wage most success, which are also some of the most recognizable institutions in the country. The power 5 is made of the Pac-12 where you. Competes the Big Ten up north in Michigan and Ohio the Big 12, Texas and Oklahoma the SEC down in the Deep South with Missouri and Alabama and finally the ACC out east with Duke and North Carolina in total sixty five universities. Make up the power 5 and only three home. Varsity Sports programs that's what makes Utah. So unique. They took a big step forward and three years later few have follow suit right. Now you. Fields varsity teams in four games League of Legends OverWatch her stove and Rocket League their website looks super clean, but behind the scenes, it hasn't been updated much on the front page of the news section a headline claims University of Utah competes for a national championship. The body of the article. Were is the random Latin that you get when filling out a template on Microsoft Word that same thing happens with the other two articles as well. And it also happens with the frequently asked questions. That's not exactly ideal perspective students or hypothetically hosts of ecology Sports podcast. Try to tell people about your program. So hey, if you're interested in being an e sports writer, Utah may have a job for you on the bright side of life though. Utah has helped push other resource programs impact on schools along and 2018 Utah teamed up with student leaders at most of the other PAC 12 schools to start the pack G. The goal is to create an alliance of his students job. Build up rivalries. It's more schools to create Varsity e Sports programs like Utah's the only problem is I don't see any news about the fact G since 2018. So initiatives may have stalled out. Well you need is a trend-setter in being a major university to lack of infrastructure behind the scenes shows that the power five tag just doesn't mean as much a nice Sports as it does in traditional sports. That's why after doing six or seven of these programs spoke to Utah was the first Power five. We actually highlighted that's all his episode of the Esports minute. I'll be back tomorrow with an in-depth interview of the Esports combine a new program helping students get discovered by ecology Sports programs.

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Which State Looks the Most Like Mars?

Aerial America

02:33 min | 1 year ago

Which State Looks the Most Like Mars?

"There's nothing like floating through the jagged shapes of needles no place better captures. Utah's other worldly character than this Canyon Lands National Park in the states southeast corner servive with restricted amounts of food and water in near isolation Utah's rugged landscape has long attract those looking to invent the future to live in a whole new way weaving between a spine of Tall Thin towers that are known as the Charter Drugs Inside is a research lab on the lower level and sleeping quarters above forty six member crew comes for two weeks at a time these are students from the Georgia Institute of Technology Utah Space like terrain makes it the private standing for the red down there cylindrical habitat which they called the Hab this prototype Mars research station comes complete with landing struts and air locks the Mars society which believes there's a lot to learn just by simulating mission to Mars when the team is done they had instead onto another planet these three earthlings are doing in these spectacular natural sculptures were carving chisels by wind rain and the rushing waters of the green and Colorado rivers added today commander Christine Redmond and her crew are setting out on a fact-finding mission. They need to make sure that a solar device is still working in each crew members wearing an oxygen supply pack just as they'd have to if they

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Rob Manfred outlines MLBs plan for COVID-19 testing

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00:42 sec | 7 months ago

Rob Manfred outlines MLBs plan for COVID-19 testing

"Essentially Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred appeared on CNN on Thursday. Night to talk about bringing baseball back. All players would be tested multiple times a week and the testing would be supplemented less frequently by antibody testing as well and he also did say that they are partnering with a lab in Utah that runs its performance enhancing drug program. We'LL TURN THAT LAB CORONA VIRUS TESTING FACILITY IN PARTNERING WITH THE LAB. The lab would not only provide testing for the three thousand or so baseball players and support staff but also for thousands more in the general public. Rob Manfred says. He's very very hopeful that there will be baseball in empty. Ballpark's beginning this summer.

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Offseason Priorities: Utah Jazz

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17:38 min | Last month

Offseason Priorities: Utah Jazz

"There you registered to vote find out how at vote four, one, one, dot org don't miss the deadline. Every state is different plan to vote on November third or by your states deadline. If you're voting by mail vote, make it count go to vote four one, one, dot org. This, he's the scaling bells podcast with NBA champion Brian, scelo brainy, former NBA, general manager, and Executive Ryan mcdonagh. Welcome back gals everyone Ryan mcdonagh joined as always five star of our show the White Mama Brian. SCALLOP. Brainy. Scale some amazing news and notes here one from our producer. Jake. Galley we've talked over the first half hour or so of this show about the Utah Jazz being sold breaking news out of Salt Lake. This morning there were sold to young billionaire. Ryan Smith. He's only forty years old he founded. Tech. Company called call tricks based out. Utah, now. He owns the Utah Jazz for a purchase price of one point six, billion dollars. In fact, his introductory press conference is going on right now as scale due to some quick research by our producer Jake Galley who is as usual is on top of these. Things I'm scale. So we go back thirty five years to win. The Miller family bought the Utah Jazz, in the mid eighties killed them Miller's Larry H. Miller family bought the Utah Jazz thirty, five years ago for twenty two, million dollars twenty, two, million with an m they sold the team today to Ryan Smith for one point, six, billion dollars with a B.. So that Brian Gala Brainy over thirty five year period is almost a seventy three times return on your investment scale if you own anything for thirty five years yes that is a long time but if you make seventy three times your money. Well. Yeah. That's that is quite remarkable. Twenty, two man. John Stockton should have just said I'll play for free just give me the teen like, why would you? Why do I need a salad just play for the price of the team I'm trying to think of the owner of. The story but there was a player who back in the day had a contract negotiation and he was asking ownership for contracts and the owner basically said, look the other way. Why don't you give me that money? You know give you the team. If you want that much money. You pay me that and you can own the team. Line I'll do some more searching back tomorrow on who it was, but that was back twenty thirty years ago now. We have a lot about the big dog. Robinson wasn't Glenn Big Dog Robinson. I think that's exactly it was. I. Think Herb Kohl was the owner of the Milwaukee Bucks. I appreciate you bail me out there with the explanation I think it was Glenn Big Dog Robinson scale. He was one of the guys before the rookie scale contract. I'd instituted that was one of the reasons the rookie scale contract instituted because of that time the number one pick in the draft or even the top couple picks in the draft came into league is some of the highest paid players in. The League so you imagine any rookie especially, this year's draft my goodness in two thousand twenty where the uncertainty of the top of the draft imagine if Anthony Edwards Lamelo ball or James Wiseman whoever goes number one if those guys came in and they were making money that was in the range of Lebron James and Chris Paul and Russell. Westbrook and these veterans stars that happened in the NBA back in. The day that happened recently in the NFL and then in the NFL the looked at it. So wait a minute why are we paying James Winston Sam Bradford with these guys more than Tom Brady and drew brees that doesn't make sense you know. So that changes been I think a good one because you know putting that amount of money in rookie stance but especially scalp putting that amount of pressure on. Them where the highest paid players in the League from day one, I think that can have a detrimental effect. So good changes. By the NBA, in the NFL scale, we've been jazz heavy on this show. Obviously, we weren't aware of this morning of the news it was about to break with the sale, but let's get stick with the time get into the roster because they are an interesting team last year. They had a very good regular season they finished forty, four and twenty eight. To sixty one percent winning percentage gal. That was six in the western. conference. In the playoffs they surprised you and especially through the first four games of the series we thought without Bogdanovich they'd be in trouble scowl they were leading the Denver Nuggets three one before Denver had the historic comeback flip the script and then Utah, lost in excruciating fat fashion with Mike. Conley three point runner from the left wing running out as the buzzer expired that shot would have sent them through to the next round and playing the clippers in the second the shot goes out and instead the. Denver Nuggets went through. But scale they have some interesting decisions first and foremost I think this one's pretty easy. But let me ask you this is the form of a question scale if you were Ryan Smith in one or the Utah Jazz and Quin night on the sidelines especially Dennis Lindsey and the guys in the Front Office led by Justin Zanuck David Moore way would you give Donovan Mitchell a five-year Max extension which the jazz are eligible now to do as soon as the off season starts That's easy. That's an easy one right I'm seeing is wrong. I love to hear your opinion. You're the guy that does this but I would think that that's open and shut. How much can we are you? Okay. All right. Yeah, I think there are a few in this year's rookie class that are no brainers. Donovan Mitchell is one of them to do the five-year Max Extension Jason Tatum in Boston is another I put Bam out of bio in Miami in that category difference with those three teams I'll put Mitchell and tatum on one side and bio, and the other is the heat or a cap space team in twenty, twenty one, they want to preserve that space. So I think we've talked about on this show, they're less likely to be eager to do that whereas I think if you're the Boston Celtics led by Danny Ainge and the great staff there or Utah Dennis Lindsay those guys, they have a terrific. Group as well. You say, look, we're not a cap space team next year. So what's our most important priority than our most important priority is getting our young stud whether it's Donovan Mitchell Jason Tatum locked up for as long as possible, and that would be an exciting day for Celtics fans. I've tatum resigns and jazz fans if Mitchell resigns because that means schedule, you have those guys under contractual control for six years, which is the longest. You can have any player under control for one more year on the rookie scale and then a five-year Max extension that is likely to be a deal depending on the cap comes, but it's likely to be north of one hundred, fifty, million dollars total. I think that's a no brainer. I mean. When I look at the Jazz, can they upgrade at the margin but the one thing is we have to realize if you look at Royce Racial Neil two years ago or even at the beginning of this season to now he's so much better player. Bogdonovich is GonNa make shot I feel like Cali has had his moments but maybe the second year, he's not one of those Alfa dominant personalities. So maybe it was Harper Connie to get off the ball early on, but there were times when he was good, the jazz were really good team the question is. Are you guys good enough in the western conference to beat the other teams that are all really good. Can you beat the Lakers? Can you beat the clippers? Can you can you beat the Denver Nuggets like you have enough where you could beat those that are teens? Maybe they had Bogdanovich that's enough that was that would have been enough to to get over that. But like I wouldn't be disappointed if I was a Utah Fan or if I was if I was the players are management I would say, what do we have to do to improve everybody and then we have to be healthy when we're going into the situation and As you know now. I don't know of health is a luck thing anymore I think it's more of a how you manage your season how you make nine that's not just like sit out games. There's more to it than that. How hard are you pushing guys? Are they are they in the red yellow green like those those type of things and I think that they would have to be more dialed in I stayed the same thing about teams like. City you have to just be dialed in at the margins of these things. So you can't just go out there and get a big time player free agent you have to be. What if you're eating the right food how you travel everything you have to do just has to be on an upper like that next level if you're going to beat team to have more talented you. And the jazz do a very good job of that scale led by guy that I work with with the Phoenix Suns, Mike Elliott, they have their practice facilities amazing scale. They built a strategically considering everything from the flow. When players pull in they weren't walk through a food area. It looks like a Park City Ski Lodge Scowl I with an Open fireplace. They have a guy who was the best cook I think in Salt Lake I mean my goodness I was up there to visit the deeper training camp and they had lobster for dinner I said lobster some of the teams I was with. We were lucky if we got to gatorade bars or we could take home for a snack they lobster. This is. Like good. Can he still cook like? Can I pay him to cook when the teams out of town the others come back here and eat the practice Saliba Myself. That was how good it was, and then the sports science stuff they do all of that is top Notch Scallon in Utah and cutting edge. So I think that does give him an advantage. And then a look at the roster. For next year, the good news if you're jazz fan almost all your top players back under contract they have the two big decisions to make one with Donovan. Mitchell which you and I think is no brainer to give him the five-year Extension I. Think they're front office will agree and do the same thing. I'll also with Rudy Gobert, scall- do they want to extend him not let him hit unrestricted free agency you're from now that is a little bit tougher may depend on the price but they Could extend go bare roller over your and wait until he's unrestricted free agent in the twenty twenty one off season But the good news schedule you look at their key question bear is he supermax player because he was defensive player of the year like I know there's there is he is drafted by the jazz. So Gobert supermax that's a good question I don't know if defensive player of the year qualifies. Let me let me do some research and get back to you on that I. Think it may. I know what they could do today scowl is on the third year anniversary of his contract signing three years after which I think that'll be the case by the time. The off season starts you know whenever free agency starts whether it's December one or the next you know quote Unquote Calendar Year in the NBA starts they could twenty percent raise office current salary, and then kick it out a number of years. So just to use round numbers. He makes about twenty, six, twenty, seven, million. So you bump that up twenty percent. To thirty and then kick out a couple of years you know with that be good enough for him. That's obviously a significant salary could wait and get more than that next year from the jazz maybe he could. But again, it's the the certainty versus having the contractual guaranteed. But let me do some research on defensive player of the year. Some of those awards cal like the qualify I think you have to. Win Multiple Times. But so let me let me check why. Because that is somewhat of unique. I get back to our viewers and listeners tomorrow on Scalps but the good news Kellyanne as far as the players under contract for next year, you have your core guys, Donovan Mitchell Rigo Bear Mike. Conley has a player option that he will certainly opt into a thirty four and a half million dollars boy and Bogdanovich you're. Hoping it comes back healthy and then their wings, Joe Ingles, and Royce O.`Neil they have even their young bigs, Tony Bradley, and then at Davis who was injured scale under contract. So they returned the core of their team intact The big question they have from a financial standpoint guy played pretty well after the trade was Jordan Clarkson. Got Him in the. Deal. With Cleveland. Microwave score for them at times he's an unrestricted free agent in his late twenty s do you WanNa pay Clarkson and let them walk. Those are the kind of tough decisions. Again, it comes back to ownerships willingness to spend a Clarkston is clearly better than a minimum player somebody like that that you'd probably have to replace them with from a financial salary slot perspective so do the Jazz, return Clark Somebody Way Scalp and this has been the case in the last few years in. UTAH. We expect them to be very good and a solid playoff team in the western conference once again, next season. Am I seeing this the last? Three seasons maybe two seasons they've had some problems with consistency like they've had. At the very start of the year I was thinking this is the team and they under under underperformed they Mike, Conley got hurt and they went sixteen games in a row so. Is Wide. You think. We talked about and they have the great practice facility have this they have that how could a team like that? Not just be like solid to good solid to good. Maybe. It was scheduled thing maybe you've man, they had a lot of a road game set to start, but it just felt like. At any given time and moments of the year in the last couple of seasons. UTAH. has disappointed me. I thought they were better in what they were in not only that up three one to Denver Lose Zach thing. So what is their deal with their consistency from Europe from your perspective? Yeah, really good point scale and that is something they have taken a long look at in salt. Lake as far as why is the team starting? So slowly as you mentioned, there's been a pattern there and I don't think it's obviously coaching lack of preparation as I mentioned I've been up for training camp I was up for training camp last year in Salt Lake and twenty, nine hundred and the year before that I visited them early in the season I, think it was December of twenty eighteen. They're prepared scalise Quin Snyder works as hard as any coach in the League he is prepared. He doesn't sleep a whole lot. He's wired he and his. Staff work those guys grind. So a couple of factors scale they are looking at, you know their off season training regimen making sure they're doing the right things, the players as far as working at the appropriate amount but a big piece of it as you mentioned is the scheduling for whatever reason that was the case a couple years ago in particular scowl I believe it was the twenty eighteen, nineteen season not this past NBA season but the one before if you go back and look at the jazz schedule the travel as far as how many road games they had scowl but also as far as just the miles traveled, you know the plane flights and Chat time zone changes and all that. It was ridiculous. It was like they were on the road, a majority of the first half of the season, and then they were home a majority of the second half of the season. So the way they looked at it in the way of hand out like like we just got to weather the storm in the first half just try not to drop way below five hundred just kind of hanging in there, and then we'll wrap up the winds once we get home you know I'd be interested to get your take on this as a former player. Scowl they have great fans and Salt Lake debris, passionate the. The. The arena is one of the two along with actually Denver, significant altitude. So from my perspective as a form executive that was always one of the toughest places to play. So I think from their perspective, they feel like, all right we can do okay obviously they want to do better than average on the road but if they have a home heavy schedule late with other teams who are tired later in the season in particular due to the travel and fatigue coming at altitude, they can rack up the winds. That's what they've done in Salt Lake. So Scott, what was your experience like as a player playing in the call it smart homes arena now? What I think it is as far as being one of the most difficult venues in the League for a visiting team. Got To remember Ryan. I was on. I was on teams with some inmates. Right? We were. We were hard nosed and tough so. The one thing that you're mentioning is. Utah is is a tough environment, but it's a special environment or you guys that don't know way the seats are they're very it's not like, I don't think they play hockey there because the seats are really on copy of you. Right behind the jets shooters Jim Right so You're saying like man, it's a really tough place to play I. think like woke sleeping giants up for when it came to guard net in. Pierce. Or even Jason Kidd or I just felt like it was like one of those environments where the game was going to be different. You walk in the lighting was different I I believe that the teams that I've been on at least a good teams like I remember going in there those two years before we had Garnett in Boston and I remember those guys not being on the same level to be able to play at that level but guys that are sort of motivated to go play. And and motivated by something different and I always felt like that environment like a hostile environment which brought out the best in the teams that I have been on. But I know that not every team is like and I know things have changed over the years. But I, think from a team standpoint as a group we've had pretty. Good amount of success playing in hostile environments like that because it is such a unique situation. So I'm not I'm not sure them on the right guy to ask I think you're in the western conference and you just played and I always use this right you had to warriors now you Dallas in Portland now you're in Utah on. Off Back back man that's GonNa be a tough game to win. But I remember having some of the best wins in Utah and Denver. Now also remember getting our head beat in, but it's when you win their felt different. So. I I just when I look back at Utah and I think of their team. I do they not have the dogs that who can get you over the Hump when you have what you mentioned a tough rose scheduled for my experience looking back some of those teams I used to love the challenge of playing four games in five nights on the road and it was like it was a different way to motivate yourself to win. The world thinks as good as we are the world thinks we're going to lose this game in five nights and that would just. Wake. Up Guy like Jason Kidd he might Miss Screw that if you think I'm GonNa lose your crazy and then he would sorta lead in everyone would follow. Garnett would be the thing I remember Pearson Allen have an unbelievable game. They're sort of the same kind of thing so. I do I do. Recognize that it is different in his hostile there but I think against good teams, they're ready for that and they're and they're pumped up for that environment.

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Cory Schow: Corporate Pilot & Creator  AviatorCast 149

AviatorCast: Flight Training

45:57 min | 7 months ago

Cory Schow: Corporate Pilot & Creator AviatorCast 149

"On this episode of Aviator Cast. We talked to Corey. Scou- A corporate pilot fight instructor and content creator. Welcome aviators do another episode of aviator cast load up your flight bag with useful flight training topics interviews in aviation passion. Let's kick the tires and light the fires coming to you from Angola Tech Headquarters in Homer Alaska your host in flight instructor. Chris Palmer welcome aviators to another episode of AVIATOR CAST. Finding this Chris Palmer from angle of attack. Have a small flight school here in homer. Alaska do lots of online content. And that's why you're watching or listening to this. Podcast aviator cast today. We've got a special guest with us. his name is Cory Scowl really interesting story of corporate flying. So if you think that maybe the corporate side of flying something that you're interested in rather than airlines or any other type of aviation career. This is a really illustrative story of how people move up in the in the corporate flying World Corey's in a great position now I think he probably always has been having a good time sometimes harder than others but in a really good position now and really loving his job so I think it's good for those of you that are thinking of doing something like that to hear his story. He's also a great content creator so we'll be talking about his instagram and his youtube. And you can check them out there but before we get to that. Remember that if you subscribe and turn on notifications and comment on this episode on Youtube you'll be entered to win a t shirt or a hat from England attack. All this drawing that randomly you can also enter very importantly by reviewing on itunes spotify stitcher. Google play one of those where leaving a review and me reading that review on the show will will enter you to win that. So I'm just kind of collecting those right now and then I'm gonNA start to randomly be selecting people in and sending those out so I really appreciate that. So let's get right into it. Let's get into To a little bit of a chat here with Corey and about his his aviation story all right everybody. We have a very special guest with us today. We have Corey Scowl with us. How you doing corey? Good good to be with you so we were kind of just joking because you and I actually haven't talked a lot before like like just some instagram messages. Back and forth. But we have kind of a at least interesting connection. We both went to the same school. You're still living around that area and tell people about what you do and where you're from yes right now. I work for a company called Cache Valley Electric based in Logan Utah a home a Utah State University where I'm also a part time flight instructor I grew up in Seattle and Denver and came out to Utah State three weeks after I graduated went through their summer program out here. Got My license and then Off got back into it and finished up graduated. Two Thousand Eight and I've been in corporate flying since two thousand ten. That's kind of the short story version of of my career so far the elevator pitch. La Very cool. So let's let's go back to the very beginning. How did you? How did you connect aviation? How did you fall in love with it? What were those earlier memories that you had growing up in Seattle? There was a lot of trips to Boeing Field Museum of flights. And that's where it started. There's a big fair up there. I think they call it C. Fair we go see the Blue Angels perform and it was that that's where the bug. My grandpa owned a Cessna Cardinal. When I was a little kid is well and so he was a pilot. My Dad was aviation and then I you know the Lego airplanes. I mean all that stuff. My best gift with the Lego airport. When I was eight years old I still remember that. And it kind of cooled off when we move to Colorado. I kind of got into some other things. And it wasn't until I picked up Microsoft flight simulator. Two thousand that I discovered. Oh I could actually get paid for this. This is a lot of fun. Why don't I pursue this and it was like I'm not kidding? It was February of my senior year. I was already committed to go to Colorado state. I was going to be in their engineering program and then we found Utah. State University and in my grandma lived down south a little bit and Salt Lake area so I thought okay I could. I could go to go there and I fell in love. Logan does this. Whole Valley appears beautiful. It's great country and And yet decided they had a summer program so I was like wait. I can graduate high school in three weeks later. Start FLIGHT TRAINING. Signed me up. And that's that's where the passion started. You know flight simulators and visiting museums like a lot of you guys do. Yeah and honestly is pretty similar for me fight. Simulators were a big part of my early love for aviation and I used to do World War Two models and even blown up sometimes but just but like you never really connected. The DOTS early never connected that it was an actual career until it. It came time to think about a career and then my cousin who was a few years ahead of me he started to go to Utah State and and he was in the professional pilot program Like for some reason like the light bulb went off. It's like you don't have to be a military pilot. The Be Yeah in aviation so so that was it man like from there. I mean they like you. It was just you know all efforts toward that. So that's really cool. Had The bug is real when you get the bug. It doesn't leave you for sure. Yeah it's still there I'm I'm sure the same for you. So what was it about Utah State specifically that when you were like in that hard transition which is interesting that you're already signed up at Colorado state just kind of tore you away from from. I guess that previous plan and it. Maybe maybe this dovetails into their program and why? It's actually pretty special. I I really enjoyed my time there. So we're talking about. Yeah you know it was well. It was the way I was treated up here. You know. It's Logan Utah State or constantly rated very high in the you know the quality of life and campus metrics that you may find from different publications and I got. I felt that firsthand. Very right off the bat when I came up here They treated me very well. They took me on discovery flight and I just felt kind of the area and then as we toured campus it just it just felt right and it helped to having knowing that. I wasn't too far away because I was also looking at North Dakota and embry riddle down in Prescott. Those are my two choices. but it still kind came down to being close to family to other cousins and stuff that were down in in Provo going to school and so that put a little factor and it. But it's mostly just the campus environment and Community up here I fell in love with it so you chose to go into the college route. Which a lot of people obviously choose to go like part sixty one versus one forty one. So why didn't you speak for a minute to the college experience are I guess? University in the case of going through like a professional pilot program. Would it's like process everything? Just start to take us through it. What was your experience like at Utah State? Yeah no I have. I taught when I did my fighting struck and I actually part sixty one so I have seen firsthand both avenues and and how they differ going the university or college route with Nice because you were surrounded by group of like minded individuals. They had the structure that made it very easy to transition to a larger airplane or a professional environment. Everything was geared towards that. You were treated that way. A professors and instructors were geared. That way you had resources from Sti- West that we were able to basically get a lot of their training right right to us. And so right helps if you really want to go to an airline or professional cockpit. Having campus college environment was great. Now and then there's the college experience going to football games and Basketball Games was great and you know all that extra was was certainly nice to have as well yeah and Utah. State is a pretty eager about the sports. They're really decent. Basketball team sometimes gets in the march madness The football team. It's fun like they're not super good but it's fun yeah Yeah I I. It's such a good area. Talk to people about this is interesting is becoming a commercial for Utah State. But it's fine like it's great. I like my memories of it too but Talk to people about Kind of the local setup. It's like other activities people can do alongside Say going to school there. Maybe even like life in Logan and life like going to a beaver mountain or whatever to go warning stuff. Like that like what? What other stuff is there to do in Logan other than flying? Yeah well it's a great. It's a country town. I wouldn't call it. A suburb of Salt Lake. A lot of people don't quite understand where it is cash valley the county where is is really. It's lone little community really. It's a bubble growing up in Denver being a suburb of Denver and even in Seattle. We were there you know. I'm a city kid at heart but this is country. And you've got we have season passes to snowboard fifteen minutes from my door. You know at a nice little up there. The beaver mountains and our away which is a little bigger Slots snowmobiling got a lot of friends. That have sleds and away into that. But it's just beautiful and wife and I were just out riding our little bird scooters around and just it in the mountains in the back country roads and I mean it's just beautiful here you feel a way for everything but then you're also on campus. There's a great close knit community so just plenty of activities going on up there. If you're in school I mean there's a reason I'm back from Ohio to come here. It's it's just there's so much outdoors. Good people country living that. It's hard to get away from. It's interesting in retrospect now kind of fast forwarding and looking at your three different options to go to you in D. embry riddle or Utah State. I mean clearly you would have done but does it seem like even a better decision now with with just how different that experiences compared to the others. Oh absolutely yeah I and who knows? I probably would've loved going to. Unbc or riddle down in Arizona. But I I know that this was the right decision for me and people all the time. What flight school should I choose really to me comes down to? Where do you feel comfortable? You have to go visit these places and get a few forum and if you don't feel right there then don't do it. I get it question all the time. It's like what's the best flight school in the US? Let's talk about state. I part of the state next there. Lots and lots of good flight schools. It really boils down to the The instructors so let's talk about your specific experience at Utah State Kinda rewind the clock and think about what it was like to go through a program like that. What were your instructors like? What was the progression? Like three. Your ratings etc. Yeah I started private in eight weeks and it was great. We flew everyday. Summer is really good. If you stay up on it and study and can fly often and then I like I said it took a little break but came back and somebody helped me get up to speed again. I did a flight review and finished up. They called it. The intermediate flying was like the fifty hours across country. Whatever you need for your instrument rating right. I remember that. Yeah finish. Finish that up. Had A great structure for that carry sparks Karrie Webb now. She was great then. I Instructor Force Web to if he hears this. Just WANNA shout him. He was great and then. I had heard that name somewhere. Yeah he was there around the time you were there. He was good. He's doing corporate well. And then my next instructor was a guy named Brody warns who's I think it Delta now and he was fabulous when I had him all the way from my instrument commercial multi and then he hired. It's registered my CFI. I was looking for myself. I actually had a Sky West pilot. That was doing some part time stuff up. There allowed John Tunnel. Great Guy we got that done and so they were all career. All these guys are professional aviators. Now they all. I learned something a little different from everyone so it was great that I had differ instructors but I was also fortunate that really good instructors and most instructors up here really care and if you ever fly with somebody that you feel like has. This isn't working. Don't feel bad to change it up. Some sometimes just doesn't work so you know I got lucky but some people have to mix up their instructors and that happens to. Was there any particular difficult time in your training? Regis ran up against blocks and it took extra effort to get through my CFI was was tough. I cruise through my instrument and commercial and multi and it was two thousand seven so for those that. Don't remember like the airlines. Were just taking guys. Two hundred and fifty hours wet commercial tickets and hire and right up so there was a low. There didn't have an instructor and see if is is kind of a difficult licensed to get and so going through that. I hit a roadblock and I failed my cfi initially and that hurt. And then I went back and actually feel that again for something else so I you know what happened and it really kind of got me down but it ended up working out because in the time that I had failed the fight school across the street was actually hiring people and he was paying salary which was more than university was making any paid for my multi engine instructor and I got a lot of free multi time out of it so nice. You know people here like I got set back. This is frustrating but they can also lead to good things as well if if you have any trials like that. Yeah Yeah it's not the end of the world and the reason I asked that question is because invariably every pilot has an answer to that cut back question where they figure it out and it sounds like you did so Where did where did things go from there? So were you. Were you actually instructing in Logan at that point at the F. B. l? Is that where you were? Instructing taught at the F. B. O. Leading Edge aviation here. That's why I did it Cool and then. Let's see where to go from there? So you know after doing that for about almost two year year and a half to two years full-time the my boss called me out of the blue is my wife's birthday and I take the day off. Actually I said I don't WanNa Work Day off to kind of clear. My head calls me three times and I don't answer finally call him back and I'm like hey what's going on. He's like hey do you wanna fly. Citation? It's like oh no. I hope I didn't screw that up. We didn't give to somebody else. Now Yeah and I was like. Yeah what are we going to do? So he says we'll call this guy and I call them a guy named deal Bolton. Who was the chief pilot of Salt Lake? And we. I sat right seeing citation encore. They were checked out single pilot so they didn't need an SEC. Legally he could fly so I was pretty much just to talk on the radio for appearances insurance that kind of thing and did a three day trip with them and the end of the third day says all right go ahead and send a bill into this person for this much and I was like wait bill like I thought I was doing this for fun so I was getting paid and from there deal was also Utah State Grad and. We got along really well. he was like a second dad to me Huge Mentor influence in my life. stuck his neck out for me a lot to help me move up in that company eventually get hired fulltime year later when they bought a TV fifty and from there. The became a finorm one hundred year later. And then the citation became a Falcon fifty. The Falcon became a challenge. Three hundred and then he's and yeah and then the challenger they were sold and they went down to three hundred seventy the phenom three hundred and the one hundred and the schedule was really difficult so we ended up looking at other jobs found this one in Ohio. Rice started of blog. Find the challenge with three hundred and Did that for a couple of years and came back here now. It's where I'm at so that's kind of the quick version of my progression in quotation. Sell all I can think of as you went through. That is like living at fight safety the entire time. So how did you get your training on all those different jets? A twenty thirteen. I was at school for like six weeks because I did my type in the Falcon before it was just as soon see. That was two weeks than another weekend. The on one hundred recurrent At the end of the year did the challenge of three hundred. Pic and It was yeah. It was always training events twice a year going recurrence of training. You get airplanes. They also exactly because those are all I think every single one of them was a different manufacturer so they all have different philosophy. Okay out of all of those. What was your favorite one the fly? That's or is it the one you're flying now. I have no idea. No you know I I always. I think I always tell people. The challenger still has a special place in my heart. You couldn't screw up landing in the challenger just always was butter big cockpit. You know big guy six to two thirty so you know. It's nice plenty of space up there. The Falcon was great though too though having those three engines and hydraulic controls. It was super fluker. Nice but cockpit wasn't as nice as the Challenger so okay. So what was the was the challenger the nicest cockpit out of all of them. Yeah Yeah I think so. The three hundred with the garment. Three thousands really nice as well though touchscreen and the way you can customize your screens and have your charts everywhere. That was really nice. Yeah Yeah that's Pretty Wild Okay. So you did. The Ohio Stint. If you don't mind like you know if you're not outing anyone like talk about that experience. And why I don't know I actually. I WANNA rewind a little bit because you said you got burned out in. Utah's well doing all that corporate work. I think that's important to talk about for those. That are thinking of doing that. Just to be real and then also Ohio and be real there and then then we'll bring it back to Utah eventually. But why don't you talk about up? Yes SO GETTING BURNT OUT IN UTAH. There's different types not every corporate job as the same in and the way that this owner used. The airplane was for vacation. Mostly there was some business was mostly vacation so we were always out to the Bahamas or the ranch or the beach house in San Diego which I loved. I can't complain about that but it was really hard on my wife because it would be for. You know five six days at a time and then the schedule would change. We get home for a day and then bachelor six. So it didn't really Bernie out a couple of it was it was affecting our relationship though it was just a lot of stress and I needed something with a more set schedule you know. And so that's why I ended up. And then when I saw. They were downsized in the airplane. We actually let a pilot go. I thought man I could see the writing on wall. This is just going to get busy and and Beshir that hard so ended up I was really looking at netjets but jet select in Columbus. Actually this is before I started doing any kind of social media stuff requested. Follow my personal account on instagram. No idea who they were so I looked into on their website and saw that they were actually hiring street captains for challenger three hundred positions out of Columbus and I thought that's kind of odd but let's look into it so I put a feeler out and application. They call me skype interview. I thought I bombed the interview because we got the time zones wrong so I was like an hour late and my kid was crying upstairs and it was. It was kind of a mess but got got hired. We moved out there and really loved it. I I actually really liked some. There's there's some negatives with doing thirty five charter flying but I really enjoyed it. I thought it was a blast. Met some really cool people. The schedule wasn't perfect but it was better. We had a fourteen on call seven off and in that fourteen days they would bring the plane back to base quite a bit so it wasn't like I was GonNa Fourteen days which we kind of thought going into be rough. Yeah Yeah so. It was like ten eleven days and twelve maybe but Some of those nights and getting back to base. That's good yeah. It was out of the blue. My current co-pilot here back in and Logan called me and we kind of kept in touch. I'd known him before he was based in Logan previously and at the time he was fine for another company and called me up and said hey there might be this job opening it Cache Valley Electric. If I think I'M GONNA take one of the spots fly with me. Let me know and I sat on that for like days before. I said my wife because I don't WanNA open that can of worms and we don't in Ohio for about two years. I thought we just got settled here. Everything's good I like my job to really WANNA move back and finally decided yet notes. We Love Cash Valley. It's closer to family. Let's let's go back there and and that's why we ended up come back here. So is her family from. Are they from that area too? She grew up in Salt Lake and her mom actually ended up passing away like a year after we moved back so in some ways. Good that we were back in closer and she's able to spend a little more time within said it'd be so far away and So that's that's her story. So yeah we're we're closer there. My folks are still in Denver. So that's Kinda Nice. Yeah that's all really positive is kind of amazing how things work out sometimes with like that. Perfect Situation I. I think aviation's like that a lot of times. It's like people really need to pay attention to the friendships and the networking they do because and it really helps out in a university setting because you get to know a lot of people and a lot of people are going through the program. So there's quite a few connections there but that's typically where your your future career will happen is those initial connections so yeah may not even be about the best school as much as it is the best connections. You know what I mean. Yeah Jobs I got this one here because I knew somebody my first one was because I knew somebody you know. I didn't know anybody out in Ohio but two out of three. I mean it's about who you know and and I did try when I was out there. I'd even tried putting some feelers out looking at some other companies and I didn't know anybody. It was hard to get my foot in the door because anytime position came open they. They hired one of their buddies. And right so it is who you know so you came back to Logan Fighting for Cash Valley. How long have you been doing? I've been back with them now. Almost three years so be three years of summer. Okay so it's been a bit cool. What are you flying with them? We have a CITATION EXCEL. Us plus Which is a great air point? It's You Know Citation People. Make Fun of it. 'cause it's slow but it it's actually a great job for us. Does a great job for what we needed to be You which is Great. I can't complain Nice. That's real nice. So what's your like? What's your lifestyle pilot lifestyle like now with your schedule lag where your flights typically like What's it like to share the workload with your your friend? Your copilot pilot. That sort of thing. Yes so Now it's because it's mostly business. Most of our flying is done during the week which is great some home. Most weekends Which is very new from my wife. She loves it. I'm there's occasional like Saturday or Sunday. You know they have a home outside of the state. So there's occasional trips there but It's doesn't affect us that much aid and no my schedule. Maybe about a week out in advance on doing but I can plan on kind of knowing something will maybe happen Tuesday to Thursday. And so it's a lot more predictable. It's a lot more. Mellow Commute. Ten minutes to work which is Great. You know it's working with It's just me and my co-pilot Chad know. He has a lot of experience running flight departments. So you know. He has a lot of that stuff. I kind of take care of the back. End Stuff the flight planning and getting hotels and rental cars and some of those things you know we try and split cleaning the airplane at something. A lot of people realize that corporate pilots. How do you know it's all out to you that yet? So Chad. Really good at cleaning. Though he he's a he's he's fantasize really good. He's got a little cleaning business so he knows how to clean an airplane. I got a lot to learn from him there. But it's really good. It's really good so so in that position instead of being doing like a Gig job where you're getting paid per hour. I'm assuming you're on some sort of salary. You've got benefits the whole nine yards right. Yeah I feel like we're treated almost as if we were taking the right way like executive level management. Maybe I don't feel like we're like peons or feel like we're treated very well in the company and have benefits and salary and all that so it's nice so it's interesting because your original job in Utah. Which I'm assuming was part ninety one. Is that correct? Yeah like ninety one like an owner and you get to basically fly on their whim and you're probably still doing part ninety one now. Is that right? But there's a big disparity there can be a big disparity with the types of corporate job. So you can have people that you know not willfully but can have situations where you don't feel like you're treated so well in your is getting run through the ringer and then somewhere like in your current position or it's like you kind of feel like part of the crew part of the family. This is something you could do for decades. Yeah Yeah my first job. We were treated very well which is demanding He we pay for us. We go to baseball games and you know go to the Daytona. Five hundred all this stuff you know. They they paid for it. And so that was. I'd go so much golf but but it was but it was demanding so the trade the trade off I guess but here it's more laid back and it seems like everything in its season. Too right like people in aviation. They've they've got to put in there. They've got to put in their work to be able to get what they want to get. There are very few situations where he just like. Handed the keys to do your dream job. It's very rare Yup So yeah it sounds like you definitely went through a lot of that To get to where you're at now it's like everything's good. Wife is happy hike near you love or you. Work Schedule's pretty good. You're not worn out so so let me take a really random tangent and let's talk about Fatherhood Okay and being a father and being a pilot. So how have you? How have you learned to balance that in your life because obviously you know I I know a little bit of your background? Because of a connection we have but so. I know it's probably very important to you. How do you make sure that you're a good father to through all this flying? I'm still learning. I'll say that channel figured it out yet but when things are going well what I do realize is that I be when I'm home. I'm home you know when I try and put that stuff away and I and you know. Sometimes it's it feels like there's a transition period when you get home from a trip you almost need like a day to kind of break it up a little bit. You know what I mean like okay like you guys are getting used to me. I'm getting used to you and then the next day just kind of gels again finding your place. They've all got routines. Try and play with them. I mean I love my kids and I've got great kids and so you just like being present when you're home. It's nice that I can leave work and have to bring it home with me so that helps so from there. Like you're you're obviously doing your thing right now. You're having a good time like if you're probably pretty sounds like your kind of maybe set for a little bit in terms of where you WANNA be so you're also doing instruction on the side at Utah State. So here's my question like we can. We CAN TALK ABOUT UTAH. State a little bit more on your instruction time but Who is who is cory scowl when you show up as a student like? What kind of instructor are you? How do you how you present yourself? How do you bring a student through? What's your style? I don't try to intimidate anybody. I try and be trying to let the guard down and let the student feel comfortable. You know I don't know I I. I really love teaching so I hope that enthusiasm comes through. I'm not trying to trick anybody. I'm not trying to fail anybody or out to get anyone or make anyone feel bad. I want people to leave. When they've had instruction through me or stage check. I want them to come away with a good feeling like I love aviation. I'm GonNa keep doing this and I wanted to come away with something. Hey He gave me a really solid pointer. That's something I can actually apply that I can take with me for a while. You know I just feel like I hope. I hope that's what I try and come across as I guess. Are you still? Are you still enjoying the days where you do like first? Solos and check rides all that stuff. Like what's that process for you now that you've been doing it a while. Both of my instructing is in the twin For the students that I have some flying a twin twinstar which is great and then other than that I'm doing stage checks so I haven't had it like a first solo. I did send one of my multi students on the check right and that was nerve. Wracking brought back all the fields. You know Halloween -dorsements as he had everything ready to go That was so that was fun. I did that couple months ago and he passed to because I was like okay. Good just brought it all back but yeah I I still. I still love it a lot of fun to see people succeed in aviation you guys still go up to the still got the present airport and do short field something. A lot of Preston did hit Brimson. He's not really sure but we're going to Brigham city a lot. Yeah all cross countries to Polka Telo. Dude I full solar across country. That's right over. The Molad veal are still there yet. Downey to Downey's interesting. Have you ever landed the job in the runway there? Oh yeah yeah little. Turn on the runway. It's pretty interesting so let's pivot a little bit now in 'cause like I saw like I'm not sure he was on Youtube or TV. We're starting to do some videos. But you're starting to like take this background this experience that you have in your sharing it on social media slash youtube so tell people about that and what you're doing yes so Started in Ohio. I was actually at a point in my career as I need to have another skill. I can't just be a pilot like what if something happens. I need to develop something. So they actually looking at starting in aerial photography business and was going to start flying drones and doing real estate and see where that went. I ended up finding a Casey Nice stat video where he was talking about his phantom four down in South Africa and I realized Oh wait. No no one's really doing it like that in aviation there's probably reason but I'm going to try that so I got a little GOPRO session. Little Square box one started reporting and as I is kind of evolved. I thought you know what's the show? I would want to watch as a student pilot. That's kind of my target is if that yeah what can I? How can appeal the curtain back if this was a virtual job shadow? How would I take somebody along? That was interested in corporate aviation and kind of Peel back a little bit and chill inside the layers of what we do beyond just you know taking off and landing. And what's the behind the scenes like the hotels and trips and that kind of stuff and that's kind of my vision in my mindset. When I'm on my game creating I guess And and you know it's kind of evolved in you know took off in a way that I didn't expect and here we are still role instill having fun with it. I don't do it as much now because you know. I try and respect the privacy of company of flying for you know where. I'm more the same people before it was all random people in no one really knew and so it wasn't as big a deal now. I try and rain it in a little bit. But there's still things that can show an and trip site and and just trying to like I say provide that virtual job shadow. Yeah Yeah it's interesting you know. There's honestly not a ton of that in your space. I don't know if it is because of the privacy issue but I just feel like I can think of a couple of guys on Youtube captain. Moonbeam is a guy that that I think is awesome. Yeah he does a good job but it doesn't as much love as he deserves. No no he does the with him that loved to we. Funny as we float I mean he went from a citation the challenger and I went from the challenge to the citation and You know we've flown through his home base before but you know just hasn't have met up yet but he's a great guy like Jim and it is time to a friend about it a little bit ago. It's cool. How were in the stage in aviation. Because it certainly like wasn't like this when I started there just wasn't like this social media large network support where you could find people all over the nation just like bounce ideas off of or collaborate with or get encouragement from and so. I think in a Lotta ways. I've said that it's like a renaissance aviation right now where we were. We have all that because it's it wasn't there before and it was pretty hard to just by the Jefferson textbooks and that's all you got your ground school and so on so you and I were talking a little bit before maybe something. That's that's relevant to today because when you were when you were instructing or when you went through your flight training around the two two thousand seven two thousand eight timeframe. We know that there was a recession at that time. I think there's something facing us now. Really well they're obviously as something facing us now. We don't know the extent to which it will affect the aviation market like. We're all just trying to the day to day right now. It's Groundhog Day. So talk talk to us about that process and like the the mentality or or I guess. The encouragement pilot could need during a time. Like this just like keep going because at least from my perspective it will come out the other end at some point. Yeah I mean I had A. I had a friend that was into flight school and all that happened back in two thousand eight in quit and he's still in aviation as traffic controller but message we recently was like. Hey what what do you think like? Should I do it and you know? He misses it and the sad thing is. I know people in this time will say you know what I'm just going to hang up. I don't think it's for me and my advice is if you love it. If you're know people don't understand the term passion passion actually means like this like something like suffer light and so if you would suffer for aviation if you'd be willing to go through some hard times to do something like this that's amazing. There's nothing like fine air point then it's stick it out and don't give up on it because I still instructed during the recession. We actually grew the flight school. Believe it or not and I had a few career students that are all working fair lines now and they did their training well. The recession was going on and when the recession was over they were able to get jobs and it all worked out for him so stick it out. Yeah you might have a year to I Dunno setback because of this but like it goes back to that suffering if you love it so bad. Don't give up on it because it'll get better and all the good times make the rough times were So true and it goes through like different. I know I. It might even be on like a ten year cycle to be honest. Like we're right at that. Tenure cyclopes in two thousand one all that two thousand like really the two thousand eight recession. Didn't at least for me and what I noticed didn't really hit until two thousand ten. That's when everything started to hurt bad. And then now we have this which is just like an outlier like what the heck just happened And people that have been in the industry while and I guess even. I'm in that in that category even though I'm only been in sixteen years but it seems like yesterday being Utah State. You know you gotTa ride the wave like you just gotta feared out and keep pushing your way through. And that's just how it is you know adult. Don't give up on it like you said it's cyclical and and there'll be good times and bad and and just ride the wave so if you're going to just as more encouraging words to kind of finish up here if you're gonNA give encouraging worse to someone that's just starting aviation today and and maybe even like put aside the virus stuff and just like starting aviation today like what would your words of advice be for a student. Someone that's passionate. Someone did legal airplanes right and they're ready. They're ready to go what they do. I would say have fun with it. there will be times in flight. Training isn't fun and doing maneuvers over and over again. Or maybe you get sick at I. You know I know some people. It takes a few flights to get their legs under my guess and get their flights stumbling figured out but just have fun. Enjoy the journey every flight. Put you one step closer to where you want to be And find ways to to make it fun but also start as you as you know what you WANNA do. If you WANNA be a professional aviator start. Training like a professional aviator show up. Be Ready to go take it seriously. You can have fun and be serious and take things seriously. I don't think people understand that some people are way extreme the other way and you know and the other way extreme on one side. And you can't do. Both you can be prepared but still enjoy doing and have fun and I try. I would say find that balance it may take you a little bit but work on finding that balance between professionalism and having fun and enjoying what you do. It's funny every time I asked that question. It's always like hard work. It's going be fun but it's hard work through. It is very true. All right man. Hey thanks for joining us today. And where can people find your stuff if they want to look at you find you online? Yes you can go to search pilots blogs on Youtube or YouTube dot com slash pile of logs official or on instagram and facebook. I'm at real captain. Corey at C. O. R. Y. And it's all no no spaces or anything. That real Captain Corey That's that's Kinda hang out. Dmz are open on instagram. So if you have questions about corporate aviation happy to answer those for their and stay tuned of lager. Guess there's more episodes coming all right man. Well Hey appreciate it and take care during this time. It sounds like you're doing great good chat with you. Thank you very much. Do you think's corey okay. Huge thanks to Corey for joining us today. Know that it's kind of a crazy busy tire right now with the kids all at home and and a little bit wild here with our quarantine in our isolation and are stay at home orders would have. They're calling them there in Utah so really cool just just typical aviation story of working hard going to school getting it all done instructing people working your way up through different jobs and getting to that job that just really of resonates really really cool to to learn that story. that That Corey has and wish him the best luck and you can go. Follow him on or subscribe to him on. Youtube at Pilot blogs and you can also find him on Instagram as he just said Real Captain Corey so thanks again Corey for being on the show and really appreciate it. You guys can find more material for me on Youtube. You can subscribe there. This podcast is also obviously on itunes in stitcher and spotify and all those and if you If you leave review there or subscribe then then you'll be entered to win a t shirt Or a hat. This is one of my hats from angle of attack. All right just as a kind of a thank you to those of you in the community. I want to just be like giving away more of them now. 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