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Julie Taymor: Creativity on the Edge

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Julie Taymor: Creativity on the Edge

"How would you describe yourself? I don't know I guess I guess I walk along the edge but being on that edge where you have to see where you're going you have to be careful because the wind is tossing and turning you. It's still the most exciting place to be and you can fall and I have or other people can push you and they have but at the same time if you know what moves you and for me. It's never been money. I'm very lucky that the lion king is successful. If it wasn't I'd be as poor as you the poor. I would be because the projects that I want to do or still on the edge there. I've been offered some normal stuff. I'm not really interested so I I would say that. I'm not trying to brag about on the edge. I'm saying it's not always a great place to be but it is place that I would rather live than on flat lowering ground Julie. Taymor is the director a designer and a puppet and mask maker. She works in theatre in opera and movies but she is for sure best known as the visionary who took the story of the lion king as it was told in the Disney animation and turned it into a miraculous piece of the during these difficult days. You may not be able to see a Broadway show or attend any cultural event for that matter but we thought we could at least give you a peek into one of the most fascinating intense artillery minds of our era. Julie Taymor is on this episode of what it takes a podcast about passion vision and perseverance from the Academy of Achievement. I'm your host. Alex Winkler at this child is gifted and I heard that enough that I started to believe if you have the opportunity not a perfect opportunity. You don't take it. You may never have another child. It all was so clear it was just like the picture started to form. Itself was new wing which ally prevail over the truth darkness over light there over life every day. I wake up and decide. Today I'm going to love my life decide if they're going to break your leg wards when you're gonNA play stay out of there and then along companies differential experiences that you don't look you don't plan for the boy you better not from Michigan and Julie. Taymor has done two interviews with the Academy of Achievement. And you'll hear excerpts from both in this episode was recorded in two thousand six on the same weekend she was premiering an opera called Grendel and working on her movie across the Universe. A musical about the nineteen sixties. The second interview was in two thousand nineteen as she was finishing a film called the glorious about the life of Gloria Steinem. She did lots of other work in the intervening thirteen years between our interviews and all throughout the lion king remained an ongoing international phenomenon. It's a rare thing for a director to work successfully across so many platforms. But Julie Taymor is a rare being one of the things why I love to jump back and forth in the mediums is film does allow me to be more literal. I can go to the real place I can go to the Coliseum and I don't have to fake it and I can go to an Eskimo snowfield if I want to have an Eskimo so I don't need to do chicken feathers falling out of a plate And when I when I was thinking about the Lion King I said well whatever it is to do with theater does best and what theater does best is to be abstract and not to do literal reality. So for instance you Wash Jeremy. You listen to Jeremy Irons in the in the guise of this animated lion. And you go oh my God. That animated line is so human. Nothing book is how human the features are. So how do I get that human? And also because the humanity of the lion king is its power not it's animals. It's humanity of the movie and and I thought well if I cover the human with the mask I won't get that part of the humanity. So let's have the human and then let's have the mask the symbol of the animal and and as a sculptor you have to abstract the essence. It's called an ideographic. You have to abstract the essence of the character into few brushstrokes. Or few carving strokes so score is very because he serpentine and he's off center and he's crooked you make a face that's not symmetrical whereas Fossa is is his salt of the Earth Earth as Sun King is the son so you have these big circles and my job as a director and as a designer is to do that kind of abstraction and to say it in a few with a few brushstrokes like if you look at the scene to act to it begins with the drought now. I could have tree. Green trees with leaves falling off drying up. Wouldn't have filmed do that better. And an animated film even better because they can make it any way they want so I say what in the most simplest terms with the most simplest theatrical idea technique can I say it and it was a big white circle of cloth silk with blue lines on it that was pulled through a hole in the floor and all you saw was that circle which was also the circle of life was also the circle of Mu Fossa? Is the main element in the entire. It's the main symbol as the circle. You Watch this water but it's just silk disappeared through a hole film. Can't do that. The Inter is far superior to film in Poetry in abstract poetry. That doesn't mean there aren't some films that are very theatrical and abstract but in general when we like our films whether it's you know the reality of the Titanic ooh I could see it was blue screen or whatever when you're trying to make those visual effects real. The audience wants to believe it. They want to those things and in theater. They jump with you they. They're transported. They know that. That's just a piece of flag on a stage or that son is just sticks. Bamboo sticks with fabric hanging and a bunch of strings. But when you bring that that son up with those invisible but visible wires. The audience is moved because they fill in the blanks. There there as participants they are there to fill out the rest of the sentence. You don't patronize your audience with reality or we could do a sunset with projection. No why would you do that? That's not what you want. You want to create you WanNa say if I were to create one of those sons that are on the desert with those lines shimmer. How do I do it with just silk and sticks? And that's why I do theater and in film film is expected to be more real. You know when you in across the universe. We shot everything in New York City but we shot Vietnam Washington. Dc Detroit but we really were trying to make it look like the when we went to New Jersey into the swamps. We brought our palm trees. You know we weren't just suggesting that it was Vietnam. We were really trying to create that visceral reality there and even titus affiliate titus with Anthony Hopkins is a movie movie. We shot in coliseums all notations. Of course it was theatrical because I played with mixing blending of time but in theater you can be much more abstract and simple and be suggestive when we do the the Savannah in the lion. King people walk with platters of grass on their heads and the audience gets it gets that. It's a field swayne with now I enjoy doing both. I enjoyed moving back and forth because each medium challenges me with their own rules and I love. What I don't haven't theater is editing like I would love my transitions to go like that instead. I have to wait for the mountain to turn whereas film you can really play with. How how you tell the story through the cutting the editing is transitions in both forms are important. But they're the opposite. They work in the opposite way. A lot of what? I do in theaters cinematic and a lot of what I do is fill is theatrical. But they're different rules to it when I mean by that is I use perspective in theater go do a long shot with the little miniature puppet of the animals on balking through the grass and then all of a sudden the life sized person will come forward. And you've made that change from the long shot to close up and you accept it through a technique change but in film. Obviously it's just simple and easy to go to do those changes But each each art form makes me more interesting in the other art form. Because I I try and bring in those those techniques in those ideas and put them into a different way of using them Julie. Taymor gives her parents a lot of credit for helping her develop such an open full-throttle approach to her art. They weren't artists themselves. Father was gynecologist. Her mother a political activist. But if there's one word. She uses to summarize her childhood. It is freedom. Her parents gave her lots of it in those days. Yeah there was television. There was this but we prompt plays in the backyard and the garage. We had dress up boxes with clothes and and then finally when I was finally when I was around eight or nine years old. I said I want to go and join the Boston Children's theatre so every day after school I would get on on the on the T and go downtown by myself and and acted and took classes and I was the youngest of three kids by law by six or seven years and my my parents. Let me be free. I traveled when I was fifteen to Sri Lanka Ceylon. At the time. I I've been. I've been many places for me. Travel was my education and going out doing theater. Boston WAS IT. Took me out of my suburban neighborhood and brought me to kids. Who were from Dorchester? South Boston mixture of races mixture of economic levels. So it's it's not just the theater itself. It's the experience of doing that theater those trips to downtown Boston and that's summer program in. Sri Lanka launched the Lifelong Fascination with other cultures. That would become part of her artistic core. She did pause long enough to go to college at Oberlin in Ohio. She didn't study theater there. She told The Washington Post's Mary Jordan and this interview for the Academy of Achievement but she continued to put on plays. I didn't want to be directed. Just became a director. I wanted to study anthropology. I studied with Margaret Mead. Until I didn't want to I became it. I didn't set my idea. What are you going to be when you grow up? I'm going to be a director. I never thought about being a director. I just had stories to tell I had I just started dramatic under twenty s younger. Probably but in Oberlin I started directing original work. I was acting and I acted in New York professionally but the thing is that when I was twenty or nineteen acting. I couldn't stand that I couldn't play character roles that I had to be the pretty young. That's not who I really was. I was probably the wicked witch of the West. I was like I would rather be you know this or that. But your physicality determines where when you're an actor a lot of what you can do. You're meant to be a director. I don't think in things like I don't think of things as meant who. Who meant it? God who met my Momma but I think I was always directing. I was always putting on shows my I always did. I Pu- I didn't like dolls. But I did have puppets and I did put on the shows in the backyard as I said so I was always a director. I just did it. I never studied theater. I was in theater and after a while the lack of control as an actor just wasn't for me when Julie Taymor graduated from Oberlin she got a fellowship a Watson Fellowship to study puppet theatre in different parts of the world. She was supposed to spend three months overtime in Indonesia but that turned into four transformative years theater. Music and dance were so much part of the very essence of everyday life and religion. There there weren't even words for them and that filled twenty two year old Julie. Taymor with aw I stayed to start my own theatre company and in this hiatus while I was pulling together the performers. I traveled to an incredible ceremony on the rim of a vote of the lake a crater lake volcanic living volcano. I've got the scars to prove that carved out my leg This little village called trillion was having a an initiation ceremony where all these various villages would come to initiate the young men into their Manhood thirteen fourteen year old like many ceremonies and I was there with another performer. And we split up and I came into this village square this Temple Square in the dark. I was tired sat under this. Banyan tree with its roots hanging into the Earth under a full moon. No electricity in this village course and I watched as out of the darkness with no audience around and they couldn't see me. I was in the shadows. Twenty or thirty old men in full warrior Barris costume with all the little mirrors and the spears came out and danced this incredible dance in the darkness and asked into my eyes and seeing the light bounce off these mirrors and these voices rose out of these old men and they stood up straight. These bent old men stood up straight for eternity which was a half an hour so and these sounds came out of their mouths. I watched complete wonder wondering who were they dancing for my God in my culture if there's not an audience in a paying audience you don't do it if there's nobody to see it why would you do it. And yet they were performing singing dancing for this time for what I would say is what really is God and that is for a principal other than themselves for something that is larger whether it's to pay back nature or to to just to to say. I'm doing this because I have to do it because it's part of me to they probably do it because they don't know why ultimately they would out of a tradition but where these traditions come from and the fact it was done so perfectly without critic being there without the applause was really moving to me at age. Twenty two and right after they danced and then bent over again and walked out of the out of the Arena a young man with a propane lantern. Came on and set up a couple of propane lanterns to light up. The space curtain was put up and filled with an audience of all age people for the next nine hours to see a human drama Arjun Opera and those people needed the light. Because these this perform these performers were performing for human beings. But something else. There didn't need the artificial light. It needed a light came from inside. And it's something that is probably the most important moment of my life to go back and understand especially when I'm having trouble like I've had all week with this bloody set of why. Why am I doing this? I have to do this opera. I could make movies. I can make money in Broadway. Theatre. I'm doing it because I love the art form. And therefore at some point you put those blinders on you say okay. It's not working now but I knew I had a vision there. Let's just keep on that track. In addition to opening her eyes to which sheer devotion to art looks like Indonesia and Japan also provided Julie Taymor with a grounding in the power of puppetry she doesn't use puppets in all her theater work. But if you've seen the lion king on stage and there's a good chance you have you will understand what I mean by the power of puppetry. You know. We still hear the word puppet and we get this nauseating image of some kind of muppet or something and Puppets really are the origins of theater. There even shadows on the wall and Plato's cave was a puppet so you know the very first actor was some kind of hand creating some kind of animal and the making of the mask or the making of the puppet in Indonesia the carving of the of the leather shadow puppet is such an high art form. That you wouldn't mask it. You have to hold the head to north and the south would the bottom. How you put the masks in a box. How you treat them. They're not merchandise. They're not just Inanimate objects that the the wood the tree if the tree the grains go from north to south to the roots then you carve that mask that way now people make up these rules but somehow they're not god-given because there's no such thing but somehow these rules that come from nature when I was talking about all earlier they are things that bring the level of our humanity to another place we can either be monsters or angels. We are able to be or demons. And Angels as that book says we are able to be incredibly creative or to be incredibly destructive and we have that decision to make. We know which path Julie Taymor chose. She's careful to point out that she never professes to be a practitioner of Indonesian. Puppetry your Japanese puppetry. Those are life long practices specific to their cultures but they have inspired her and become woven into the fabric of her own artistry and she's found ways through significant risk taking to make them create that sense of aw in our own culture and other cultures. To how many people do you think? Seen Your version of the land ninety million over ninety million people in every continent but Antarctica. So you were not that well known when you took on that project. She had directed some successful place in New York including some Shakespeare with puppets and she had directed a spectacular production of Stravinsky's opera oedipus rex also with puppets and the fabulous Jessye. Norman who we also have a podcast episode about and which you should listen to after this one but with Julie Taymor had in spades which she was hired for was her experimental artistry and her bravery. There were massive wild animals and stampedes central to the Lion King. For Goodness Sake. A conventional approach was not going to work. If you don't challenge yourself and risk failing. It's not interesting. I I think this is a story that was told many times with the lion king but when I first created this concept none of that brass Disney except for the producer Tom Schumacher and and One other Peter Schneider really believed in it so I said fine. You don't believe that you can create this dual event. You know where you have the human end the animal simultaneously giving the money to do it properly and I'll do a workshop and I'll do three different kinds. I'll do my original concept. I'll do make up and I'll do a mask because I've got nothing to prove. I just believe that. This is the right technique for telling the story and when we finished every one of the techniques which of course they would because picking opera works. Kabuki theatre works in Javanese shadow puppetry works and what Michael Eisner said. God bless his soul. He said well they all work. And your original idea. I think we should go with because it's the most risky and therefore the payoff if it works will be the biggest. So the point is that they didn't do the same thing even hiring me wasn't the same thing it was. It was a an interesting potentially interesting. I'd never done a commercial hit before a Broadway show but there was a sense that I had a way to tell the story and they trusted me. They let me as an artist do it. And they supported me and I've had that rarely how many years of your life do you think you spend a lion king well lion king probably was two or three to create it and it's been twenty two years now since it opened on. Broadway and I've done a lot of the casting and a lot of a around the world for the many other productions. It's we have one that's from Africa now which I cast and all parts of Africa especially South Africa. That's been touring South East Asia. We did. I did it in Mandarin in China and in Shanghai we did. We won in Spain. That's been there for years to in Great Britain. We did one in Brazil in Mexico to Australia. France. They've been pretty much all over the place. A lot is often lost in translation. Translation there any special challenges when you're trying to bring the lion king two different cultures. Well I very attentive to. What are some of the special humor? Humor does not transcend so when you get in there and you have the hyenas or team own Kumba. You have to find with the local humorous and you have to find and sometimes it's politically incorrect. But I don't care that's what life's about humor is about so you have to find. Who are the WHO hates who in which society and those who mock to and you play with that and by making it personal to the people performing for they own it. Marching not coke without High Cusco. Us On will go home cuckoo. We've to companies in Japan for twenty one years when Japanese and and that has to have like Osaka as opposed to Tokyo. Who were the WHO are the outsiders who are the bad guys who were the dumb dumbs? It depends if you're an Osa class going to be the Tokyo's of your in the Tokyo guys from Osaka so I think it's safe with Beijing and Shanghai. It was very funny because you have to use accents and you know how accents just we have feelings about about dialects and accents so was very powerful the success of the Lion King. I mean it was. Maybe it still is the highest grossing production mounted umbrella. There's an I mean it's as women. We really rarely do this. It's not that it's the most successful entertainment in the history of all entertainment including movies more than Star Wars people. Don't know that I mean it actually. Is that change you? What a change. Well it's it's kind of an odd statement to make but you brought it up so you know men are much easier at saying things like that. We think it'd be great modesty virtuous but let's say that again it's it's a fact that it is the most successful entertainment and of all entertainment history all engines Every place we've been if it's a prodigal son coming of age story where humans we all go through it but I don't want to just talk about Lion King if Nice House twenty years ago I mean I'm I'm doing a Gloria Steinem movie right now you WanNa talk about that but you know people often say that when something goes wrong you learn more from it. Yes and I think the people listening here love to hear how people get past things go wrong so the Spiderman was now I don? I haven't actually talked about Spiderman Publican. I'm not sure when that will change. That was Mary Jordan. Trying to put it delicately. And if you don't know what she's referring to the full title of the Broadway show was spiderman turn off the dark with music and lyrics by Bajo and the edge from the band Youtube for the story. Julie Taymor wove together elements of the movie version of Spiderman with elements of the myth of arachne e. Ten Years Ago. It was one of the most talked about perfect storm of trouble. Ever to hit Broadway. It was the most expensive production ever. It had the most delays in the longest run of preview performances. Ever one hundred and eighty two before it finally opened it was the most technically complex and ambitious ever with aerial combat over the audience. Actors were injured badly in the end. Julie Taymor was fired and blamed for the fiasco. She was even mocked on Saturday. Night live the musical was significantly reworked and rewritten before it opened. Officially it left scars that she says are simply part of her now. You know there's a lot to say about what happened. I think it was a magnificent piece of theater. That didn't get finished that we weren't allowed to finish now. I'll be very brief about this. And what happened is the Peop- you can only even lion king. I had a great team. Disney supporting me. It was experimental. Spiderman started out if I saw took too long. And we went through the crisis of the money falling out and different producers. So it didn't. It didn't have the people who started at weren't the people there so we didn't actually have a good court team and the people who ended up producing and working on it. They'd never done Broadway they were. They choked edge working on. They weren't there when they should have been and the but the They were halfway in because of the way it lasted. I think that script if you ever want to see something really incredible. That script is about fake news in two thousand and two is when I came up with the concept of it It was it was based on forty four years of comic books. It was to be the Uber Story. It was very ambitious. You could say that it's about Hubris and and I would have been attacked. Hubris thinking that I could actually pull this thing off but I think that I still think it's one of the ways reasons I'm doing the Gloria Steinem. She called me up and she had seen the version that wasn't finished and she was so blown away by it. She and she didn't know about the controversy and she called me and said this is extraordinary but that was a runaway train where there was blood in the water to bigger names. People like to knock you down with the success of Lion King and they said it was too costly. There were some injuries fire. Juries weren't my. That's not my that's not me. There's injuries in theater all the time and ballet and theatre but the cost. This is the funny thing about cost of theater. You could see a two character play on Broadway for one hundred and fifty dollars a ticket. Were they to actors in one set. And it's still cost that money or you could see for seventy dollars a musical. That employs more. Where's the money going? It's going to people you're paying designers in Krasne in choreographers and dancers so I've never understood that mentality and you know it certainly at this point. Nobody thinks about it. Lion King was almost the same. They also didn't get the truth. No no journalist no journalist ever investigative. What really went on and I'm not. I'm not going to tell you now but can you tell us a little off for this. Do you think that no because dark? It's dark no I don't think so. What did you learn from this dark episode that you have to have your collaborators that you're all the people have to be on the same wavelength and when it gets rough you have to stick with it if you believe in where you were going see? I think that we had rough times on. Lion King where people didn't believe that. The puppets and masks would work. My major producers stood by it and believed in it. What happened to me? In my choreographers. We became scapegoats and we're isolated and they decided to go for the easier thing and give up the rest of they went for the Spiderman one or whatever they gave up on the larger story and the more more exciting and risky. They got scared. There's so many times I've heard that somebody will whether it's a book or play or theater. Production where the critic pans it but the audience loves it. Yeah right for films to us from so you must have seen. I've been through that and films. Definitely you know where you have to fight for what you were working on across. The Universe was one of those the Beatles musical. They loved it Sony but they smell the money. It's not that it wasn't working. This is a different thing. They smell the money and thought if we got rid of the politics the black people the homosexuality and too much art we could have high school musical pre high school musical. Meaning like won't we. It's that mentality that that if it's got too much of that maybe we won't reach the young. I said this the Beatles were trying to reach twelve year olds to eighty year old. They're each will find like the lion king you find where you can you. Don't patronize your audience. Little children loved the Lion King and when they see these white streamers coming out they kind get the bets tears but the adults. See the poetry that you're using silk to represent tears so I believe that you can create popular art and still be artistic be commercial but have it on multiple levels be appreciated. It's like somebody said a wonderful artist said you know you have a building with fifteen floors. You should be able to get off on any floor in that building and still go to the top Julie. Taymor told Mary that she has many of her. Best ideas in that twilight period between being asleep and awake others often come when she's traveling. You A bad. I remember years ago in Mexico Walking down the beach when I was working on across the universe the Beatles musical and I was walking in the sand and I was thinking about the one song. I want you which I don't know if you saw it. Did you ever see the idea for carrying the statue of Liberty across the villages and the jungles of Vietnam came from that walk on the beach? Because I thought of. I don't know for some reason. I was reminded of the Pyramids of Egypt and the slaves carrying and I had done a piece at the public theater years ago. Called the gotta where I literally carried had this. It was the The Harada was the story. You know the Jews coming out and working on going through the Red Sea and I created this moment where the dancers and actors were carrying Pyramids made of Mata and I was reminded of that when I was in the sand again and I thought and I was seeing the palm trees in Mexico and so I came up with the idea okay. We're going to carry the Statue of Liberty. And then so. That scene came from that walk. And there's been other ones for grounded when I did. The drone story grounded at the public seem beach so that same beach has been a fertile beach for me. how often do you go back to the pits Every year I go there I do think walks and being outside. Nature is an incredible place. You know it's a meditation talking to people is inspiring lot of my ideas. Come when I'm talking to someone trying to explain a story and then idea will come Weiland talking. Sometimes the development of those ideas takes a long time and sometimes no time at all. There's no rhyme or reason there is not like in a film situation. I wanted to do the Gloria Steinem. book my life on the road. If the producers who put the money in you can't find them in Hollywood. It will take a long time. That doesn't mean I didn't have the idea for it very quickly the idea of how to do it you know. We got the Rights Gloria behind it. All of the Julianne Moore signed on your all. Those things were very quick. But then there's the it's not a normal Hollywood film. It's a road picture about women meetings with remarkable women. It's it's unusual. It's the second wave of feminism. Have you ever seen a movie about that? Never you know so that even we had big stars in it and Gloria is in it and is executive producing. And it's still going to be hard during this interview in the fall of two thousand nineteen Julie. Taymor was still in post production at the time. She was hoping for it to come out on International Women's Day March Eighth of two thousand twenty instead if and when theatres reopened. It'll be out in the fall just before the election and it's a powerful film about activism and motivation so we have an enormous outreach concept. That's GonNa Start already started that where it's not just about being commercial. It's not just about going into movie. There's which of course we want and then eventually on television but we want we want people to use this movie as an inspirational movie to get especially young people. Young women and men not just women to vote to be activists to know that as Gloria said when she spoke at the women's March in two thousand sixteen is not enough to press send. That's what she said and she's also very you know what so inspiring about. This woman is that. She's always looking for the upside of the downside. So there's never anything Darker Nev- negative this movie is is all these extraordinary women. Flo Kennedy Bella Abzug Dorothy Pitman Hughes all these women that nobody really thinks about now. The young people don't even know a lot of young people. Don't even know Gloria Steinem. You'll see you're going to get in this film. Not Just Gloria Steinem but Barbara Jordan and the incredible characters and women who really Dolores Huerta is in the Phil so much of when a movie or Theater. Production takes off. It speaks to the moment urine. Yeah Yeah but one big challenge is you have to start this years and years. He started four years ago. And then you kind of hope that you're in the moment. Well we're we actually sadly I have to say we're more in the moment than we thought we'd be. We have so much about abortion in this movie. Because it's was a big part of the sixties and seventies pro-choice. The whole movement happened. Ms Magazine had all those women. Signing I have had an abortion in their first issue so we had no idea that that was going to be again on the chopping block by the time. Our movie comes out. But do you think about that because when you're picking what to spend your time on you kind of have to think about what people are? GonNa care about and what's going to make an impact. You have to do what moves you. What moved you in the Glorious Story to use your considerable talents to bring it to others. What is it okay? The very major ideas that Gloria has been developing with these other women. We are linked not ranked. The Patriarchy system is a new system before that there was the circle she she goes back to original culture. She talks about listening. You have to be in a community to change a community. Who said that about you have to be Bryan Stevenson? You have to be close. You have to have connection. We have gone so far away from that with creating we but some people creating fear of the outsider making enemies of of the other Using that to gain power what. I love about Glorious Story and the women that she is that are part of her story is. She's one of the greatest listeners. She listens she said. An African American woman asked in an interview. Like this kind of interview. What would you say to black women who say that? The feminist movement didn't include them. You know that the the feminine. She says say anything. I'd listen you know there's there. There are so many things so many quotes so many extraordinary things that come out of her life with these other extraordinary women in the word feminist has been badly used and misused and abused but all it means is you believe in equality of women you believe in their intelligence and their power and what I love about. This is the concept of power is so different than the concept of. I I I can. I never say I'm wrong. Never say I'm sorry you know you know what I'm talking about and after the glorious where will we see Julie? Taymor emerged next well. She's very excited at the moment about creating new shapes of theaters actually new architecture. I very much want to create theater. That is different form and you have to get people behind you because they rarely much about. Oh we have a footprint of a Broadway procedure now we can go into this theater in Minneapolis. Oh I WANNA create theater that that where the audience is in the center and the theater wraps around them. Where film and theater is penetrate where it's dimensional where you mix the mediums where you take journeys that your space changes while you're in it. You know they use the word submersible lot there is something to it because people are so used to this tube or the phone that that it's so crazy to me that that people would think the texting is more advanced than talking on the telephone. If we were the reverse we would say that. Wow I get to hear the voice. The Voice of the person speaking to me therefore I'm getting a whole nother layer besides words so I think what's what is very important as the visceral again. The visceral experiential experiential. Nature of theater is something that you don't get in the on the Internet and it's it's liken to when you go into a church or a mosque or a temple and you see these extraordinary heights. What does it make you feel when you're in the spaces you get a sense of all a w. e. and that is why? I believe in performance space because being and surrounding them. The lions coming. Down the aisles. Elephants people were dying. You know they still do. And it's twenty two years later but it's this is something that I feel reminds people of their humanity. They can look and see. Oh there's human beings and legs of that elephant but it's an elephant. I agree. It's an elephant and that suspension of disbelief is the most powerful thing that theatre piece can do. I'm using the lion king because people have seen it. The opening of the show is a sunrise. So what I did was. I took bamboo poles with silt. That was hombre. Orange Mambo remains going from light to dark yellow to dark orange and it was attached to the bamboo. Poles was a big circle with monofilament between the polls. It's a bunch of junk on the floor at the beginning. It's just a bunch of sticks and silk. Then the woman starts to Sing Rafiki now gone. She starts this chant and the stagehands that you don't see start to pull and this thing starts to rise from the floor and the movement of rising it creates the shimmering the light coming from the back through the Silk Glos. The audience knows that's just silken sticks. It's the song the suspension of disbelief. They don't sit there and go. Oh that's not a sunrise they go. That's a sunrise and more to it. They're actually moved to tears by that by the very art of it. Art has been shamed has been put into. Oh you can't make money on. Our artists elitist artisans net quite the opposite artists. What makes us feel alive as human beings artists? What makes us feel like our everyday? Life has has another round to it so something as simple as a sunrise that we see every day outside. You re appreciate you really see it you you see it. I use the word double event for the Lion King. Because you're both being told a story and you're being told the art of telling a story simultaneously you see a mask of an animal. You see the face of a human at the same time says many double events there so for me. The power of theater is that you can put you can see a story from many different perspectives. You're seeing it from it's like cubism when Picasso. Does a person in Cuba stick art. He's not putting a mirror up to the person's face. It's not taking photograph. He's showing you this view that view that view at the same time. So that's what I believe. Theater artists and all artists do. Which is they show you their your life from a different perspective. You step outside of yourself. Sometimes it's it reflects you but sometimes it's not you at all. Why is it that? For instance a family can be you know. One sister doesn't talk to another sister may know that everyday life go to the theater and they see onstage two sisters who won't speak and all of the sudden that makes them think about himself even though they've been living this every day was a punch and judy is a very good example for this people will say punch and Judy is the most violent puppet show ever created. And it's it's it's punch beats up his wife Judy with a big club they scream. They tear each others heads off. And this is a puppet show for children's just like Hansel and Gretel or or any of these things where they're very violent because children are at home in very violent situations. They see their maybe their mothers being beaten by the father when they go in a public situation like that a public experience of watching this show outside of themselves. It's an exorcism so theater is used in that way. It's it's used to help kids or audiences through the darkest moments of their lives. There's a very good story liking. Should I tell it to you? So during the first year on Broadway. It was impossible to get tickets. You know. It's very hard so I remember would order them by the many many months in advance and I was told the story I I was told by a good friend of mine that this one family had bought tickets six months in advance and they had two children and during that time the eldest daughter who might have been around nine years old ten she died and the younger son who was two years younger. You Know He. He was alive and the parents didn't WANNA go. They were in mourning but they were forced to go because of the younger son so they went to see the lion king in this dark moment of their lies. And you get to a point in the lion king where the Little Simba young cub asks his father. You know. Basically he says. Are you always going to be alive or you always going to be there for me? And a song is has been written by by Lebo called. They live in you and the lyrics. Are they living you? This is about see so Fossa the king the father says to the young son you see those stars. The great kings of the past speak to US nursed stars. They are our ancestors they live in you. They live in me there watching over everything we see so basically you get the idea of what that's about. Apparently this little boy turned to his parents and said Sarah's up there isn't she okay. I've done my job as a theater artist. That's it. I don't care about the money. I don't care about audiences that one child was and the family was lifted via the activity of the ritual of live theater through the connection to another experience to other people that the origin of theater theater was there created for that purpose to celebrate harvest to celebrate birthdays to actually take people through the darkest moments of death and to make people understand. This is part of Life Mountain. Oh have director designer puppet maker and sculptor all wrapped up in one. Julie Taymor watching. She was interviewed in two thousand six by Gail. I Can Tho and in two thousand nineteen by Mary Jordan. Thank you so much for joining us and listening today when you're ready for another dose of inspiration take a look at our long list of episodes about trailblazers from all walks of life and we'll be back with a new episode in two weeks. I'm Alice Winkler. And this is what it takes from the Academy of Achievement. 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Whether you're going to work going on vacation or just going out with friends five hour energy energy on the go. For more information. Visit five hour energy dot com. Terry. Yes. John. And sandy. We'll see, you know, the ring, you know. Roseanne that he could do to Morrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our alive feet update for February seventh. I mean, I was doing I'm strong. And with me today. Matt how're you doing that? Tearing him dressed in all black today. This is I guess my version of Brenton the veil. This is my my day of announcing the funeral. The death of the life feeds for big brothers. I am pronouncing them dead. I'm going to subtitle. This podcast. You're feeds our trash. This is no longer no longer a fun season of big brother celebrity fees. There's nothing nothing going on here. Besides besides a lot of hair-curling and yoga and sleeping, Tom. And it's just completely too much. I'm done. I thought you were really sad about Ricky. That was really not really sad about Ricky. You know, we we have boring feeds. So if the most boring house guest is potentially going to go home. Um this week good with me. All right. There you go. We are here to tell you everything that happened yesterday on the celebrity big brother to live feeds, and as as Matt pointed out here, we are losing quite a bit of content, especially toward the end of the day. We'll we'll get to it. But who knows how much more we actually have just like I could never actually pull the trigger and cancel my feeds. Because I want to know what's going on. I could never actually do that. But do you know how many times I've been so close to doing it this this season? It's just like I know that you've been watching obviously, it's just like we get a conversation started. And it's like the strategy starts to sneak into people's mouths. And then you're like the feeds are going to cut in two seconds. And then next thing, you know, the feeds cut, and it's the most frustrating thing I've ever dealt with. And I don't know like, I don't know. It's really getting to me. It was pretty bad last night. It's really really good to me pretty. Bad. It's been bad for a while now. But last night was like another level of I don't know. I think what it turned out that maybe they were sleeping most of them were sleeping in that downtime. I don't know. But it's just it's really inexcusable, and we've forgive big rather candidate because or some of us do because we don't even pay for their fees, but we are paying for this paying for just sleeping people curling hair and Ricky doing yoga, it's really annoying. I don't know. I I feel like now. Now, they feel like no feeds are free as a bonus. When you are a subscriber of CVS CBS all access. I just can't take another another show of Julie Chen, telling the entire audience sign up for CBS all access and watch the houseguests live twenty four seven at such a lie like she's completely lying to everybody watching, and I hope that nobody is signing up because they're not getting anything on these feeds we have to pick and go in for these small little sections of things just to get information to talk about today. That's neat fired up. That's my Brent ran. We started the day with Tom and Natalie Tom is explained. Hey, look, I wanted to tell you about the fact that I changed my mind with the nominations. But you, you know, you didn't really want to talk to me. So I. You had no forewarning. I I wish you luck in the veto competition. Yeah. I mean, he's he's wished everybody look in the veto competition. The his first round of interviews. The other day was I'm gonna put you up or I'm considering putting you up, but I hope you win the veto. Don't tell everybody else. What I said. And then there are they're all comparing stories that day, and they're like a, but he told me that he hopes I win the veto told me that to what. What a what a tricky little guy. Natalie's going to go to Lillo taymor and Ricky and. Tom just I don't know. I don't know about you. But Tom talks to her and that was just over the line. So it's all she really needed to go in on him. So there they talk about oh, he's just the worst. We are never going to speak to him again never gonna speak to him again after the season. And that's what he wants. He's not here to make friends which is like the like actually opposite. I think of what Tom's doing. He's a terrible human being he used Lola's Olympic dreams. He made fun of you for not having health insurance. Yes. He made fun of me for not having health insurance. That's exactly what happened FU CBS for letting him do that. It was disgraceful. Yeah. I mean, there's there's a good video on Twitter that I just watched before we came on like the actual conversation that time and low low had versus what Lola's retail of it was very different stories there. But I like, I don't know. I guess I'll just say get into it now. But I really don't think obviously what the trio the people in the goal jerem have been saying about Tom has been over the line. They've been taking this really far they're not treating it like a game. But I do feel like Tom has made in ever in ever like every step along the way. He just doesn't talk to anybody like they're real human this entire game of his has been about putting on a show putting on the best TV product and producing everything that's going on in his room. And it just feels like when he talks to people. It's just very calculated. He knows what he's going to say. And he doesn't talk to anybody like their actual human beings. So it's like I get the frustration that they have because when they go to talk to him. They're not getting anything at all. So well, that's the funny thing he. As I mentioned yesterday. He he does have a very strange way of expressing himself, except for that conversation with Lolo, which was very human and genuine, and sweet is the worst thing he's ever done to low flow. I don't know maybe he's just burned himself from all of these crabby ways that he's talked to her and talk to everybody for a while now because we've been calling Lolo crazy, which maybe she has. But you know, she was yelling at Tom all the time. Because you keep cutting me off you keep cutting the off. And then I watched him do that exact same thing to candy yesterday the day before and he's like, I know you, you know, you want to say this you want to say this. But let me say this. I and I'm like really start starting to feel like Tom might be the problem here. I mean, Tom is a problem. But I don't know if he's the problem. I personally, my my opinion is that you know, Lolo in Natalie are are like n taymor like way way way extreme on one side. And Tom is like just kind of an awkward dude on the other side. And that's like being an awkward, dude. And should not be inviting that kind of vitriol in in my opinion. No. No, no, definitely not trying to excuse. Like the things that the angry trio has been saying like they have a one hundred percent taking it over the line. And all that stuff. It's just like Tom is not making it easy. Any step along the way to talk to him. Like, he's a real to talk to other. He's not talking to anybody else like their actual human beings. Like, he literally produces every conversation that and that just makes me mad watching. Yes. I think I understand what you're getting at it. I think it kind of ties in with what we were talking about yesterday in terms of just like it's all in just in general about how you know, Tom. He'd just he I think he has trouble expressing himself, which is funny because what time does is. He says everything that he feels all the time. He's just like he doesn't. He doesn't hide anything. He just he's just like this is how I feel about this. And it makes people uncomfortable to have such a barrage of explained feelings that not only don't feel genuine, but also feel overwhelming because there's so many things, but that's kind of usually what's going on inside of a person. They just usually hold it in and also when they do express it. It's a little more a little more in some ways, weirdly calculated, and they're like, hey, this is what I'm feeling, and I'm giving you a version of what's of all the turmoil. That's going on inside. Tom is just like, hey, here's everything go go. Yeah. And I mean, you know, like I'm talking about this. I guess from the perspective of the three angry people. But let yesterday is when it really like became an issue for me because I saw it happened with candy as well. And candy is the one person who has been, you know, she guided him in the right direction this week and just to watch her get so frustrated with him because he's not listening to a where she says he's he's just completely shutting out any any of her opinions. And I think she might have cried after at some point during that, it seemed like she was very upset like later on which, you know, of course, we'll get to you. But just the fact that like she wasn't even able to get a word in and she came away feeling so upset I was like, yeah. I don't I don't know. Yeah. I mean, we'll get to that conversation. It was definitely I think poorly communicated on both sides three honest. But yeah, it's I think that really this house. I think everyone in this house even people like candy, and Tom have just devolved into this sort of state where it's just it's getting hard to communicate at all. Tom is worried about hey, don't use the word about threatening stop doing this. And I just stop just stop and candies. Just like me. You stop being dumb stuff. It's a bad mix. It's like, it's really a bad Knicks of people altogether. It's just man. It's it's so like who we're trying hard to find the entertainment, and I feel like luckily every week there's been at least one high point usually from Tom's insanity as nature wage but moving forward, which is like it's it's it's getting tough to find the joy in the season. I slick I said I'm willing to tweeted this the other day. I'm just thrilled. The Tom was the one who stayed over Kato because this kind of insanity only happens when Tom is in the house. This is the only thing that gives us something to talk about Cato at St. he would have been hiding back in his room. I I don't know if he would have won the H H and Ben upstairs for the entire week or not. But you know, Thomas the one who who's going to provide anything for us to even talk about. So glad we stayed. We had the veto draw. And there's seven people in the house six of playing the one person that is an angry cult needed to play in the veto this. She could win and remove one of them. And then somebody else would go on the block was low low low low is the one person not playing in the veto. Oh that was a badger. I love the Brenton even realize that until like this morning or something he put out a tweet saying I had no idea that little. Yeah. That's the most funny part of yesterday. The fact that they had these all these plans about Lolo, maybe taking Natalie off the block and not even a taymor out. It'll be so low low you didn't get pigs. Yeah. Not at least helping I guess maybe tomorrow, take her off the block at this point. But it does seem like the only person who will take her. Oh, truly take her office yourself now. Yeah. Natalie has a conversation with our team. Our is basically like, hey, I'll do whatever you want. I'm playing for you. I'm playing for you Natalie. Whatever you want. I'll do it. She's like, well, take me off the buck Scherf. I mean Lola will go up it'll be the same. And she's like, yeah, you're right. We'll we'll figure it out. I'm playing for you. We're good heading into the veto. Tom is going to win the power of veto. Beast Tom Kevin Martin green winning these competitions. I mentioned this last night on the roundtable. Just something to think about there are five competitions remaining. I assume you've got H and veto next week at the final six h in veto the week following or sorry, not next week at the double vision at final six then the following week another h in veto at the final five. And then if it goes, according to how it went last season, the final four will just be one competition one h H and whoever wins, we'll take one person to the final two eliminating to other people. So that really is advantageous for the competition threats because Tom has won four competitions. Now. Nobody else has won more than one competition. Tom has one four candies. One zero Dino's one zero all three of these end. Angry calls have each won one apiece. Taymor. Has one one. That's that's a pretty significant advantage. Now granted in big brother candidates six we thought that we there we had a similar competition ratio. In fact, it was even more dramatic. And then boom. Oh, paris. She's she's got she's all of a sudden the copies. So you never know. Yes. But that that is still somewhat significant and something to think about here moving forward. Tom is definitely in precarious situation for the double a vixen where he probably needs to win the veto, which is probably his most dangerous point. But if he does win that veto you very very well might see a Tom green in the final two. And it's just a matter of like mostly. I don't want to do ahead of ourselves here. Because when you think about the competitions that are coming. We've had a lot of mental ones in the past few rounds. It's been a lot of true false the last one that they just did this veto was memory. It was the one where you have to remember the color order, whatever. And then if you get it wrong colors blow up in your face and Tom had a good system down for that. So he's been killing it with these. But I do feel like when we get down to the physical ones. Like, I'm assuming that this double of action veto is going to maybe something, you know, running back and forth. You know, you run to get your pieces clown shoe, maybe kind of thing, and I don't know if he's going to be the best in that. But even if he if he isn't he does get through that the final h last season was the one where they were standing on the polls. And I think Ross one that. So you know, we saw Tom did in the last endurance competition. He was the first one off. So I really don't know if he's going to be beating any of the Natalie or lows when you get down to those kinds of competitions. So I don't know like is he just getting all the all the good comps now that he's actually good at or is he Patel? Essentially going to ride this moment of I dunno. It's very likely, and I think that something that goes under reported in big brother when it comes to looking at people as competition threats is that I think the kind of competition, you get matters a lot more than the person that you are than how good you are at competitions. And so like when you think about it like, Casey and big brother twenty probably never would have been seen as a big beast. If she didn't get like five competitions about hand eye coordination throwing catching balls balancing balls, which she's like a football player like completely and she happened to play in all of those like if she doesn't happen to play in those if they don't happen to show up, then we have a completely different view of who she is a player. So it really matters the kinds of competitions that you get. We don't know what they will be. We can look toward the previous season to see if we have any idea what they might be the it looks like a final six head of household. Was. If to get across a thing of the red the red carpet, right? Yes. Yeah. They had. Who I don't know who on that? Mark McGrath one that I think they knew crawling across the red carpet, and they had to go back and forth. And I think I'd like to different heats to compete and then the winner's face each other. So that's what I'm saying. It gets a little bit more physical at this point. It's it's a lot less of just true or false. Yes. And then I think there was something like a puzzle for the veto. I think I think Tom has the advantage when it comes to puzzles given what he's been doing so far in competitions. So if we have a puzzle veto that could matter a lot puzzle veto versus a running back and forth veto. That's what that's what I mean. Like, it's it's honestly seems less about Ken, Tom, do it and more about will. He get the competition. Get lucky enough. Yeah. So it's interesting to to look at here. When the when there's not a whole lot else to talk about on these. So yes. Let's look at Tom has won the veto Ricky, Natalie low low and taymor are going to be talking. Ricky says I'm going home, Tom has made things personal. Tom Tom had said he wanted to talk to Natalie and low low Ricky's like don't don't bother. Don't do it. Which is I think that if Tom did because Thomas Thomas wants to talk to them immediately was watching your home. We're like. What are you doing? What are you doing? Thing is if he did talk to them there's a chance that he proposed something and they'd be like street, Tom. And then maybe he wouldn't do the thing. And then maybe Ricky would be safe but rookies like, no don't talk to. Ricky's been kind of resigned to the fact that it's probably him going home for like the past forty eight hours or so and even so to the point where he's told Natalie. Yeah, you know, it's my time to go and Natalie even is under the impression that if if it's the two of them on the block, Ricky will like volunteer meta style to be like, it's my turn to go, which I don't think Ricky actually would do. But I think he just understands that like the votes are not there for him. No. But nobody in his room is reassuring him that we're keeping keeping you. And he knows that you know, Tom is not casting a tie-breaking boats. Keep him at this point. So he does seem defeated. But I don't know if he's like trying to get the girls to not talk to Tom because he wants to just keep everybody away from Tom because he hates Tom so much or if he's maybe like any kind of strategic intent with this by saying don't talk to him because I don't want your deals to be made better. I'm not sure. Yeah. We. See pickles is a wonderful regrets calling Tahmasp. Rick those weeks ago, I can ask you know. He does not regret it. He he mentioned it. And he was like it wasn't even an insults. I dunno. I so upset about it. He also mentioned the time that he tried to force Tom into doing the stand up in front of him. And it was like drop that pretty quickly. Okay. So it sounds like he does remember all of these things that he did. But he doesn't you know, he's never put in the effort to actually go talk to Tom to make it better. So that's working for you. This is one of the most boring players I've ever seen so passive aggressive. Taymor talks about wanting Tom gone next. She wants make sure Tom leaves. Now. He says, yeah, we we nominate Tom and candy Natalie wants to make sure candies still involved in this conversation. Tom talks to the cameras, and he lets us know he wants to veto Natalie off the block and put Lolo up to ensure that Ricky leaves now this actually. It's hard. We talked about this last night on the roundtable is this actually weirdly, the right move for Tom given that Natalie is more likely to go after candy, although that may not be the case anymore and like to to ensure that Ricky leaves was definitely going after Tom. I'm not entirely sure the way he goes about it the way he thinks he can go about it is definitely wrong. The way he ends up going about it. With candy is also definitely wrong. So ultimately, it probably doesn't even matter. However, I think the base move itself to ensure that Ricky leaves is probably the right move is just like everything around it as bad, and it's turned it bad. Yeah. I feel like there was just not a whole lot of thinking ahead from from the second. He started planning out this h we because he made these plans in his head, and then he talked to candy, and then she kind of made them feel differently. And then he still went through with his plan. He told Natalie this he told lo this and then candy came in and talk to him again. And he completely changed his things around again. So now like, I don't know if when he made these. Nominations. He was thinking to himself. I'm going to have to take Natalie down that it must have been something that you slept on over the you know, the following night. Because it just I don't think it made much sense at the time. But I guess like you're saying now, it does kind of make sense that if he wants Natalie to say because if he's looking at the block of candy Dina and potentially taymor as three votes that would have Vic Natalie if candy has that influence over taymor, then he would have no control of over whether or not Ricky leaves. But it just it's another case of this messy game from Tom green. That's just hard to track hard to follow in hearts of root for. And honestly, I think that he I mean, I I mentioned his it's hard. It's hard to analyze because his intentions are very different from his from. What's actually good for him? However, I do think that he should have really just never let candy sway him in the first place. He should have actually gone through with his nominations of Ricky and Lolo, especially if that's what he wants to end up with. I think that actually was best for him Ricky would have gone, and even if even if Natalie wins the veto and use it on Ricky lo lo leaves, and that's still better for him than Natalie leaving. So like, but he doesn't see that. And so he was able to be swayed by candy because candy was making the logical argument based on his misreading of the house. And so he did something that was bad for him. He sort of recognized that it was bad for him and wanted to change it back to what was good for. Him. But his, but what is good for him in his mind is still not the correct way of looking at things. So when he explains it to candy, it's going to it's going to blow up again because it doesn't make sense. Even though it is technically good for him. But she's not in the way that he thinks it is nothing nothing that he's saying is making any sense like he's talking to candy. And I don't know if we get to this yet the conversation about the table coming basically, basically his plan his his overall plan is that he knows that candy wants Natalie out, and he's worried that candy will vote to victims and that he'll have to get into conflict with candy about Ricky, and what he wants is that is a unanimous vote to victory. He's hoping he he's hopes that that will unify the house and calm everyone down. Ricky will be gone. He's the mastermind he's the strategic force with Ricky gone, then everyone can be friends again, and everyone can just chill and everything will be happy and fun, and they can just Joey Lawrence like I want all the happy people here for the last week. Like, I don't know where that came from. So that's that's Thomas plan. He talks to Dina. He asks Tina will you please vote Ricky out. She says, I okay fine. But you have to agree that Natalie needs to go next Tom's as fun. We're good. Then Tom goes to candy, and they have a conversation at the pool table where he lets her know about his veto plan. Hey, I'm thinking, I probably want to take Natalie off the block unless I can be absolutely sure that Ricky will leave next to Natalie and and candy having worked on Tom so much yesterday. I think finally just loses her patience here. She's like, Tom. What are you? That's crazy. Don't be dumb. What are you doing? Stop. And from this point on this is just it's all it's this conversation devolves. I mean, Tom is like essentially turned into like the hilly and festival like he's just telling candy. I think if we get rid of Ricky that Lolo and Natalie will be willing to work with me, and he's genuinely believing this. He he's he's telling candy who is completely like aware of everything going on. She sees the big picture. She sees that they will never be on the same page as Natalie and low low Natalie, low, low want candy and Tom out candy and Tom should want Natalie and Lolo out, but Tom saying, well, if we get Ricky out than the girls won't put a put us up. It's like who else is there left to put up? Do you think that they're gonna go after like, I don't know what he's trying to what's going through his head and like candies. Frustration is like the exact same frustration. That anybody watching has because we can see clear as day and candy can see clear as day, and she's trying to explain to him in the most simple terms, nothing. You are saying is making any sense. And he's like, no, no, no, no. I really I think that that Lola will work with us. If we if we. What what are you talking about? It doesn't make any sense. Remember the thing that I did that made Lolo and Natalie mad at me in the first place and say that I'm a terrible person. Which was that? I wanted to use the veto, and I had too many ideas. And I wanted to get Ricky out. I'm thinking. Let me say that again that if I do that again this time it'll work in the love me for it. What is time? What is time? But this time it doesn't involve them being on the block and me playing around but their lives in the games, like it's just, you know, little chess pieces, but but is what is what is. When I tweeted yesterday that I was like, maybe is it possible that with only a few days left in Tom maybe not so high and his chances of winning. He's literally just trying to make the most exciting television by saying, well, let me make a big move at the veto ceremony. And I'll take Natalie off the block and nobody you'll see coming, and then I'll put up some like, I feel like that might be just what he's going this point. Because this can't he's not stupid. He's not he's not a stupid person. He's a smart guy. And he's genuinely believing that that there's a chance that Natalie and Lola will wanna work with the next week. I don't get it. I think I think you're correct. And he's later going to talk about this in in those terms, I think he is trying to make good TV and at the same time. He's trying to. He's trying to make sure that he doesn't come away from this show as the threatening guy. He wants the women to to stop hating him. And he's willing to do whatever it takes to get them back in. And he he previously thought that like, okay. I'll just do whatever they want. Remember previous to the women yelling at him. He was like I'll vote out Joey for them. I'll do what I won't do the Ricky plan. I'll get Joey out healed. I'll do whatever they want. And that did not work. They still screamed at him. And he was like, okay. That's not working. So now, he's he's he's convinced that it's all Ricky he thinks. Okay. I just need to do everything in my power to get Ricky out of the house, then they won't hate me anymore, and I can make good TV. We'll I'd do it. And do something that's going to surprise everyone. And they'll be so surprised they'll be like, oh, Tom. We didn't even realize that you were so good and not terrible and evil like he's he's trying. He's trying very. Hard to to make this happen. And it's just not going to happen because he doesn't see that Ricky is not the source of all of his problems. He just thinks he is because Ricky was the only one to to show that he didn't like Tom previous to every everything that happened. But really the women never liked Tom even when they started working with him. They were like, we're just this is just a temporary thing, you know, Kato and Tom are fine. They didn't even like Tom that much. They were like kind of like Kato, but Tom and whatever the the alliance the idea of team fund has been Tom's all along was originally, just let's promise them safety. They promised us safety going into the week of the HOA chapter. Ryan locked these H. So they were just trying to keep each other safe. And then, you know, Tom started the whole let's call each other team fun thing. We'll get Ricky involved, and you know, not only said all along. I don't really like Tom Lolo is the one who voted for him in the first place. But this has not been a stable connection the entire season. And I guess Tom's hoping you know in the final hours of the season. Maybe he can. Of course. Correct. And make this all better. But it's coming at the cost of poor candy who just finally started to see the light of day. Finally started to play the game. Finally, saw maybe I have a partner here who could win competitions and helped me get farther. And now, she's like smacking your head against the wall. Trying to talk any common into them. Yes. Candy's trying to tell Tom look Natalie is the biggest threat stop being stupid. We not to get Natalie out. She's more likely to win next week. If if you have to win the veto to stay next week if one of them wins h Ricky's not gonna win anything. He doesn't win. Anything? Navigate is not a comfort likely to win and Thomas like. No. And he's going to take me out. He's Ricky is gonna win. He's going to send me home and candies like. We look you're gonna you're gonna do what you're going to do. So just go ahead. And do it it Ricky on one competition entire season. And it was when he was first of all he's playing against five people because the mooch was in that. And of course, the mood wasn't trying to win. And it was the one with with like the start stacking the gold bars on top of the thing. So it's like essentially building a cart house like if you get lucky in your other competitors drop all their stuff, I like that was entirely luck and Ricky's dot com threat. He's I think he came in second out in this veto competition. It's very clear then Natalie is the one that you should be worried about right now. But we are very well aware that Tom cannot get past this rookie thing. Like, I said I personally feel like Ricky probably is Tom's greater threat. At least at the moment. Whereas I completely I think that candy is completely correct. That Natalie is a bigger overall threat and certainly a bigger threat to her as well. But also again when like candies arguments make more sense than Tom even though Tom is theoretically arguing for his own best interests because Tom is arguing for a different thing that just happens to coincide with his best interest and candy is correct in arguing against Tom's thing that just happens to coincide. So so candy kinda just gives up in Thomas frustrated because he's like candy. We're this is supposed to unite us. And even want that I put not only on the block. And now, you're not helping me out at all and getting up my target like you have to be on board with what I want just like I was on board with what you wanted. Yes. And so he brings up this idea. All I can use the veto on Natalie. And I can put up somebody that you won't want to vote out. And then then we can make it unanimous. He's all he wants it to be unanimous. He wants the house to be United and candies. All there. You are with the threats that you are with the threads. And he's like, no, no, no, not don't use that word of nothing threatening to please. It look I have been emotionally targeted for three weeks. Now, I'm tired, and I just want to enjoy my last week in the house, and she's only this is the start of the producers going stop threatening. Nope. You can't watch. Nope. No, no, no, nothing. Nothing. Sorry by. He's like, I just wanna talk. I wanna talk to the women only get them on board. We're gonna work with them. It'll be great and not gonna work. Yes. And candy, again, just kind of just gives up here. She's like, I just need to go rest. I just need to think about this and Tom's like, no, I need you. Please leave me I need you Heure smarter than me. And she's just like, I just can't. I just can't talk. What else can she possibly say? That this guy like nothing is getting through. He's very clearly stay standing his ground and not willing to change. What he's you know. What is what is mind is already been made up and? I would walk away to if I was candy. There's not much left that she can deal. But the problem here is obviously what comes next where candies next conversation. So yeah, I mean for for me, I I wished that candy had had try to little her. I know that it's frustrating to try and operate with Tom. I can see that. She did it successfully yesterday though. And I do I do genuinely feel like if she had had a little more patience with Tom and she had like sat down and worked it out with him that she could have convinced him to go the other way. I think that he was he was open enough to it. And I think that she's capable enough of it. But she didn't really try very hard in this conversation right from the get-go. She was just kind of frustrated she just kind of didn't have the patience, and and like he's he's literally begging her to stay as she's walking away. And she's just freely giving up the influence that she has over Tom, which is which is unfortunate. I wanted more from her in that moment. I I still I go on a personal level. I completely under. Stand where she's coming from. I still think she's fantastic as a person as a player I wanted a little more there. And then also what she's going to do with taymor right after she leaves is another sort of a little bit of an error here, in my opinion. She goes to taymor. She's still frustrated and she's like Tamar. Tom's. He's going to do the back door. He's he's using the veto. He needs to put up somebody that I won't vote out and tamers. I what wouldn't me up. You wrote me out. I'd no no, I'm not. I'm not voting you. You're voting me out. I knew it. You shouldn't have worked with Tom. I knew you shouldn't have worked with Tom. I told you this was going to happen. And he's like, no, no, no. Tim the wasn't in Thomas plans whatsoever. Like he wasn't. She wasn't somebody that he was considering targeting or anything this week. It's always been about Ricky, but taymor on the back of her head knows that she just put up Tom and Cato last week. She just took out Kato Thomas best friend, and she's had this suspicion, even though she hasn't been totally vocal about it. I mean, she she's mentioned it here or there, whatever. But she's she's been thinking that Tom is going to eventually put her on the block backdoor, whatever. So now, she feels justified candies coming to her saying he's gonna use the show and she's like. Yup. It's me. I knew I knew this was coming, and we we know from him talking and talking to the cameras that Lolo is his was his plan. Maybe still is his plan. Who knows if it's changed because what happens here is that taymor starts freaking out that is going to be her. And she goes, and she tells Natalie Ricky and Lolo and she said, hey, Tom's put me on the block. She burst into their Tom's. Putting me on the block. And I mentioned this last time around table like. Oh, oh, oh, what's no, no. Who told you that? Yes, exactly what we wanted to have happen. Yeah. I guess they they probably do see a little bit of a bright light here. Like, oh, maybe this is something, but it's really not anything because that's not what Tom's likely planet is in the first place. So let's not get too excited. You know? Yes. What do we call them? Angry people zen angry. Kobe is Zach Zach does too excited. Yeah. It would be easier. If we call them Zach cult, but that would be like machine Zach attack. But that's that's a little too. Zach grants for me. Taymor is co into the kitchen, and she she's she's mad at Tom. Oh, so you're back to threatening people know, please stop using. We're just playing a game. It's just a game in Tampa that no not on your threatening people. It's not not when you're cut. Yes. And there goes the feeds for the next four the rest of the night, essentially, they they've just been so so picky with what they show us. And I really feel like there must be something going on behind the scenes with like a lawyer or publicist or manager somebody. I don't know if it's Tom's or taymor is or whoever is it is that I feel like there's gotta be something that is back there where they're saying stop putting all the like stop letting people see all of them getting angry with each other and ugly. And we know that Lolo said at some point during the day, they told they told her specifically you have to be respectful to your other houseguests. You can't call them male, chauvinistic. Pigs don't say that anymore and Lolo because she was talking about that. So they clearly want the house to be a little bit nicer. Or a lot of it nicer. They don't want this on the feeds. So the second that things get good. We are not allowed to see them anymore. I think what's happening here is that. Production tried to intervene. They tried to stop this from happening there. We gotta stop going to be nicer to each other. You know, you can't be calling these people things because they see what's happening, and they see that like the responses like so much more dramatic than the cause. And they're trying to calm these people down. But in trying to calm them down for somebody like Lolo. It's like why are you taking his side? What's? Are you kidding me? CBS? Are you are you making fun of my Olympic dreams? And so they're starting to get the brunt. End of it as we saw Lolo is now like f you CBS, and so they're like, oh, what are we to? They're all of a sudden trapped in this situation. So they're only they're only source of recourse here is all right? We can't tell them not to say these things because then we'll get mad at us. And they'll say that we censored them from men who are threatening them. That's not a look we want to have. So we just need to cut it all we still let them do it. And we just won't show it, that's that's the only thing we've got left. It's really really frustrating. If you can't control your your own house guests and find a way to sit them in the diary room for two hours. I don't I don't care what it takes if Lola's the one who's been going off about this in that sit her down let her calm down in the room explained to her what the situation is. And explain to her. We can't keep these live feeds running while you're badmouthing, Tom and calling him. This calling him. That like like you need to remember. This is a game. Like, I don't care reminder that this is like everybody's watching her act like this. I don't care then you have post game interviews with Lolo who said I had men threatening me in the house and CBS part of the patriarchy shut it down. They protected they protect the Tom, and I felt unsafe in that environment. And that's such a bad look for CBS, especially right now, it's it's really not fun for for any of the houseguests. I'm sure it's not fun for production. But it's really not fun for us watching that the second that anything gets good the second that taymor starts to tell Tom mouse. You really feels of course, we cannot watch it, and we're just going to be stuck to DNA curling your hair for the rest of the night. Yes. So feeds feeds cuts, and they pretty much the only time they come back is when people are sleeping, or there's nobody taught that people are reading nice and silent if you just. Tuned into the feeds last night post taymor blowing up on Tom, then you'd think men these people are really zen real sexually zen. It was bad. There was like a couple of times where like people would wake up or because I think like I said, I think that they were some of them were asleep. Maybe at some point. I don't know. But some of them would like start to talk game gaming the second that they said anything about the game. They would completely cut to somebody else. There was three girls were in the train the train car room. They were they were about to start talking cut away. There was we actually did get like about five minutes or so of the candy and Dina had gone to talk to Natalie and Lolo and that actually went through. But it still doesn't last as long as it could have. Yes, we did get some bits here. And there we saw feeds come back and taymor was berating candy more for working with Tom. Like again, I told you this would happen. You you screwed this up for us, baba, blah. So that was going on candy did have this conversation with low low in Natalie candy is this this is what I liked from candy. She feels like, okay, if I can't get Natalie to leave then I need to get Natalie on my side, I like this from from candy here. This is the right thing to do if you're sure that you're not going to be able to get what you want. I still would have preferred her to get what she wants. I because you know, I wouldn't say that she that. These people are particularly, trustworthy, and it would be very good for her if Natalie left. However, this is the next best thing, she talks them. She's like look. You know, I felt threatened by you. And I apologize for that. I thought you were going to put me up next to Tom and they're like, yeah. That's understandable. You know, you were doing what's best for your game. And you know. They kind of they kind of. They they get making men's they're feeling. Okay. Lola like, you know, what we should be communicating directly instead of going through taymor. And by the way, tamers, I know you think the team are saved you, but tamer has been talking about how you need to go on the block and all of this stuff. And this is a big opening for candy because Lolo and Natalie do not like tame are. So if candy can get in here and be like, hey, I'm willing to work with you. They were like so down to replace taymor with candy, if they if they need to the only thing is that they know that they can't beat candy in the end. But you know, they plan on taking each other to the end anyway. So it doesn't really matter so candies like, oh, yeah. That's that's Natalie's. Hey, we should we should be working together. We should you know, you don't don't be working with Tom, Tom even more with work with us. Yeah, I'm good with that. I don't need to work with Tommy. I'll I'll work with you guys. That sounds good to me. Yeah. There's been very little communication between candy Andino with the with this with anybody in this room, really besides taymor. Obviously, we know that taymor and candy have their connection. But other than that, they don't talk like they pass each other in the house during the day. And sometimes you get to like the halfway point of a regular big, brother. Susan and you're on day forty and it's like. Two people. You're like they literally have not talked the entire game. And they've been in the house for over a month. So now, we're at the twenty something day, you know, point of the season, and there's only like seven days left to go. But these people are realizing that they never actually talked to each other. And this is about to be the end game. So like, you said smart on candy for for going to them and try, and she was very upfront about it in like a less less in a better way than than Tom going to Ricky saying, listen, I was trying to back door you and not trying to explain it at all. He was just saying this is what I was doing. Sorry, candy was like, listen, I know you guys were going to put me on the block Tom seems like somebody that I can attach myself to to go a little bit further in the game. It's not like it wasn't anything personal. I just see you as a strong competitor. And it seemed like something that might have been able to to get done. But if we can talk, and we can get on the same page, then I'm all for it. So good on candy. I think here. Yes, this this conversation may have saved candy. If Natalie does stay and Natalie gets power, she might decide you know, what? Maybe Tom is worth going after I then candy. However, candy is still the number two on the hit list. You may have saved yourself for one week, but not not really anything more than that. As it seems right now. So she's still kind of in a precarious spot here. It would against it'll be better if Natalie just left entirely, but it's better than nothing and one week could make all the difference in this game. Especially again, when there's very few competitions left, and you only need one or two of them. So I sure though if Natalie or Lolo won the the double eviction, h it's Tom and candy are still going on the block, regardless. I I would say, and then you know, Tom doesn't win veto. It's obvious. He's going home. But you know, this conversation didn't do enough where it's like, all right? Well, I guess we'll keep candy. Now, candy still going to be the second option. So you'll need to like, I think that there's a door open here. Where again, I think if you works this angle enough, and I know I'm looking at this from a perspective of a person who's playing the game and on a level that just isn't in the house. But there is an opening here where a good enough player could definitely keep pressing on this. And like I said kind of end up replacing mar and get to the point where they might put taymor up on the block with Tom in the double of addiction or even further make make taymor go before candy that I think that possibility is there will candy keep pressing. I'm not sure I don't want. I wanna -ssume that she will. But it's definitely open to her. As is. I think if she went and she talked to Tom today. I think that she can still get through to him is just a matter of trying and and using using her skills. We know she has in the correct way. So. Will these things happen? Probably not. But the door is open. If I find it kind of interesting that you think that they would potentially want taymor out bad enough that they would keep candy. And so like assuming that Natalie in Lolo both state in the house this week. What do you think that their ideal final four would be I guess Dina and one of the other two Dina, and I think right now, it's Dina entail. Mar. That's what I was. Because I wasn't sure if you were saying that you think that candy would be the better pick for them right now. Right. I think that I think the way that they are looking at things they like I said they've they've constantly talked about like tame argest frustrates them. They want to get her out. And she's also won a competition. She's also a little bit more threats. She also as they know is a fan favourite because they like that she has the power if I think that if candy worked hard enough to get in with the women and right now the biggest thing against candy for Natalie. Is that Natalie See's candy as this like tricky, you know, oh, you got in with Tom. And you've been sort of pulling some strings and you'll definitely win in the end candy did a pretty decent job of going there. And just being like, look, I just went to Tom because I didn't have anywhere else to go like playing this sort of like, I really am the person you thought I was for a few weeks where I'm not doing anything. I kind of got pushed to one side. She could also there's so much dirt. She has on mar she can say taymor told me to do this like taymor has been telling me about what she's been telling you guys because tamer has been running back and forth. She's got the dirt. They would. I think they would definitely flip on mar they would see candy as a lesser competition threat, which lets the two of them get to the end more easily. Like, I said, I think the pieces are there. I don't think that she sees all those pieces. I don't think she will put all of them together and put candy Kleenex dots here. But it's tricky because as we know taymor will go easily to Tonelli Lolo insa- candies annoying. The crap out of me, I understand that. I that. I messed up, and we shouldn't have kept her. But candy doesn't do the same thing about Mars? She doesn't really throw taymor under the bus because she doesn't see that taymor is throwing her under the bus. Same time. So, you know, candies a little bit blind to that part. Yeah. So like, I said, I think the doors kind of open there, but likely not going to walk through it. And she still the deal with this frustration of Tom green and the rest of his h before she can even think about the next step. So yes, she talks to deny. She tells her about Tom what he's doing their frustrations. With him demands. A kind of trying here. She feels bad for Tom Kean is his own faults doing this to himself. Dna that feels back Thomas been in his alone in his room ever since tame mar went off on him. And and candy was like it was it was pretty bad pretty bad one. Like, oh, well, we missed something big here. Yeah. Until Tom says he's been trying to says later, I guess he's been trying to keep to himself. So, you know, it's not like he I don't know if he's like necessarily hiding for a while he says he was hiding so I guess, you know, he's trying to avoid everybody. Plus he's obviously thinking like crazy because he never stops thinking about what he's going to do. But he does tell us what he's going to do. I think you know. So we go up to Tom and he's talking to the cameras he wants to make move at the veto ceremony. He does plan on using the veto, or at least appears that he'd plans on using the video. He's a little bit vague with us because he doesn't want us to know in the same way. They did just want the house to know he wants and nobody to expect what he's going to do. He wants people to be surprised. He says that the Zach made a mistake not a victim that had they should've aected him over Kedah. Because you know, Cato wouldn't have done this. And he's he's sad that the game has gotten. So mean spirited? It's should just be a game. It should be fun. He's he also talked about how DNA is his only true ally. He knows now that candy is running back to the other side and telling them what he's been telling her because as soon as he got done in his conversation with candy taymor came at him for everything that he just told candy. So now he feels a bit betrayed by candy. And knows that he can't really trust her moving forward. Even though she's kind of an ally. He can't really trust her. So that's what we're looking like here, Tom he wants to make some surprising move. So maybe that's putting low low on the block maybe now that tame ours come out him, and he feels like candy betrayed him by telling taymor this information. Maybe the move is to put team are on the blog. I think I think that is the move just now that he knows that there's this connection with them. I've really because if you thought that they might vote Natalie. And the end taymor might be in with candy to do that. Then they could very easily just vote out Lolo and keep Ricky in against Tom's bushes. So I really feel like if he wants to go with this plan. He's probably got to put up taymor at this point, which I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. I we lock your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only valid on certain thirty year fixed rate loans, all for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states and last number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply. Again, is what I've been advocating all along. But he's not doing this for this. I know he just keeps it makes it so hard for me to talk about because he keeps backing into the moves I recommend for him. So in the most asinine way that it's like I'm trying to criticize and also say, but at the same. Time it might be the right thing. So it's it's difficult. Taymor might be going on the block, which I do think would create a good dynamic for Tom. And then honestly, Tom could do anything at this point? I could see him being dumb enough to put candy on the block. I really could I likely, but I think it's a small possibility. So like watch out, I don't I don't think he obviously, I don't think that he should do that. Because candy is one person in the game that seems candy like gone. She goes on the block. Yeah. No, absolutely gone. But but at this point like the damage is the damage done. I mean, it makes sense for taymor is a much better choice than candy. But this is Tom green. We're talking about. He could do anything. I guess it wouldn't surprise me at this point. So yes, we know all we know for sure is that Dino will not go on the block on anybody else is basically opening game at this point just to make sure there are three votes, at least at the very minimum three votes to get Ricky out. So there can't be somebody more appealing on the block because he needs that candy vote. Can't. Candies like the most crucial vote honestly that he needs because he can control her vote more than any of anybody else. Besides dina. Yes. So I think that taymor or Lolo are the most likely I think the candy is small possibility if I had to guess, I mean key mentioned Lolo, he never mentioned, Tim Marceau. My I'd lean toward Lolo before taymor. However after what happened with Tamar it. I think it's definitely a large possibility that tame mar would go on the block honestly with how the way he was talking about. Nobody would expect it could take pull Ricky down for all we know again, very unlikely. But you know, he's he's talking about doing something surprising. He already told. Here's the thing. Here's the thing that I was thinking about he already told us to the cameras that he was going to pull Natalie down input Lolo up then later, he was like I'm going to do something surprising guys. I'm not gonna tell you. What it is. He already told us the Lolo plan. So maybe he has changed his plans. Maybe may. I'm now, I'm kinda talking myself into the and maybe he wants to make sure the cameras get eight because he needs to repeat himself million times a day give give producers any different kind of combination of seeing that they can use because he literally has the entire show in his head. He's talking about like like, I wonder if there's a cameraman in this room watching me right now, I hope when I get out of here. They give me a tour of behind the scenes, so I can see everything going on. Also, he was clearly in an emotional state. They're like he'd been berated. It was pretty bad apparently by tame taymor and had been alone in his room the whole night, and it was getting late. He he might have just been like emotional in that moment. And then when he wakes up this morning, he might be like. Should I really go through with what I was thinking before? So he might not even do what he was thinking the night before he might do something else. Who knows either way probably will take Natalie off the block I feel like it's really heavily where he's leaning. I don't know who's going gonna put up, but I feel like he's way too afraid of the fact that this big threat is on the block, and there might be people voting her way instead of the one person that he needs to get out of the house in his head. Yes. So. Lots of lots of open possibilities here for the veto ceremony. That's the thing. That's the thing with Tom in terms of watching him is that you never know what we're left with some uncertainty, and that's a little fun. At least the the entire season has been, you know, the longer h rains in the shorter ones and Tom has gotten both along h rain. So thanks in terms of aging. Yeah. I mean, I mean, especially like for tame ours game if she had the longer h she would have probably gotten a little bit of the h China's, but she only had like forty eight hours. So it didn't go anywhere. But I mean in terms of like, it's gotten ugly. But in terms of entertainment, Tom is the one we wanted in the in that room up there? Yes. So we'll probably have the veto ceremony at some point today. That's what I would imagine unless they planned on doing it live on the Friday episode, which I don't think is likely not kind of maybe. But I think it's a lot more likely to do it today. I hope they do it today because I think Bill especially if he does but obtain mar there's a lot of fun to be had. And if they did it live on Friday, then there'd be none of that fun. No. They only do it live when when they like really don't have any time know, especially when they do the live veto on the episode. But I think as many as often as possible they would wanna get all of the footage in ready. So that they can edit it in to our show coming up on Fridays. Plus there's going to be so much time on Friday because tonight is going to be H O, H and. They're already gonna get so much in in the first place. So having two hours tomorrow, they have a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah. The hope I'm really looking forward to the Friday episode. I feel like maybe it will be the first like really good upset at the season. Hoke actually, it's like we're going to get the family videos. Probably. Yes. Well, actually, they said a family videos on Thursday. I think taymor said, but but that might mean they'd get them on Thursday the aired on Friday. So that's we might get a feed outed cheer for the veto ceremony. And then shocking feed outage on celebrity big brother season two you don't say. Yeah. So so anyway, tomorrow morning l eleven AM eastern, I will be live to update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds, hopefully, we'll know what happens with veto ceremony. And then what the plans are for the fiction moving forward. Tonight's. There will be an episode, and we will be live after the episode to recap. It should be a lot of fun. And then again tomorrow Night Live to our double eviction special ba- finally down idol five after tomorrow night. 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Said that he could do to Morrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update. Four February ninth. I'm heroes turn Armstrong. And with me today is Liana ideally on. I honestly, we could talk about big brother. We could talk about CBS's new. Right now, you can get a twenty dollars prepaid visa gift card by mail with the purchase of a Napa legend premium battery. It's durability and power make it the obvious choice for people who hate getting stranded by dead car battery so pretty much everyone the Napa legend premium battery and twenty dollars back quality parts, helpful people. That's Napa know how. No participating Napa auto parts stores and Napa auto care centers. Limit to household while supplies last offer ends two twenty eight nineteen show cousins, I'm with either. Because both the seem equally interesting to me this moment. Can you believe that meta didn't invite Ross to the party? My gosh shocking, and he invited all of Ross's friends. Believe that. Oh my God. Are you Ross? They're not really your friends. They didn't vote for you. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. We're here to talk about everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds. There wasn't much that happened. So. Just on Saturday. Cousins. Yeah. The feeds were down all day leading up to the division. And then they were down for a large portion of the night until they came back after the H competition. So we basically got like. An hour to. Not a whole lot to cover. But we do have some we can talk about the ramifications of what what has happened and what we're looking at moving forward. So let's let's get into it. Feeds fees are down we the double vision. And in the double vision as we saw Natalie was voted out. I and Julie gave a big fake out to Natalie atelier before we speak. Let me I need to inform the houseguests about a twist that's about to have that very clearly indicates that Natalie is gonna I was like, oh is Natalie going back in this is never been done before Natalie. Yeah. That's what I thought too. Like Ono now is going to be able to come back into the house has to involve her in some way, because how cruel would it be Julie interrupts their interview to unleash this new twist on the house, and then no sorry. You're still out of the house. This only affects people who are still playing and I loved it. When Natalie said, oh, I thought. Maybe I was going to get to go back, and they didn't even need to do it that quickly like they didn't need to be like before we can even talk to you Natalie. We need to really go quick and informed the houseguests who are not even remotely ready, and they missed the entire message. Yeah. That was my other favorite part was Ricky slowly milling around in the living room. And I thought maybe there was an error like the audio off in house. And so they couldn't hear it. Which is why they didn't go into the living room. There was some sort of mistake. And then Julie being all sassy afterwards. Well, since y'all missed it. I guess I'll have to tell you about it. I'm pretty sure that when the feeds I came on. They were getting that news alert sound on occasion, just randomly like either a because of a bug or they were just playing this. I think they've just kind of got used to hearing the noise, and maybe they're just like, oh, yeah. They're just playing the noise. I just been tweeting like they really need to stop making the big brothers celebre. Breaking news alert happen. It's way too much like the big brother takeover was at least a little bit. Catchy. And I guarantee you if they had come on this beakers get ready for a takeover. Everyone would have rushed to the living room. So that's all I'm saying. Yeah. I'm sure that's definitely what would have happened. I think the humor that came out of. It was totally worth it. I in my mind, especially because Ricky now looks more homeless than he did when he started somehow, despite the fact that he's been living in house just him milling around that was by far my favorite total neglect from everyone else, even Ricky who was in the room wasn't even watching the television screen. Yes. Cutback to Natalie. I thought it was oh, you thought you were going back in the no no safety competition for your worst enemy, Tom. We came up with the keep Tom safe. Because even though he's outgoing h she can still compete. Yeah. Yeah. So we we get this ridiculous twists. I mean this. What what are they doing here come on? What are you safety competent never been done before a safety competition that everyone can compete in. And then even if you even if Tom doesn't win the person who does win doesn't get to computer nature wage giving him better chance of winning Leach wage. I mean, it's totally fair. What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. That was the other thing was that it wasn't just safety for him. Because let's say Lolo Ricky had won that competition. They wouldn't have been able to compete nature wage like you said, so that's a one extra person that DNA and candy don't have to compete against would have made. The odds worse in the veto. But still overall it's better. It wasn't like a huge coup. But it was it was a lot lot. And look, I am I am not the person that thinks that believes in the conspiracy theories was this made for Tom. Probably not at probably was just another dumb idea. They had that just really lined up with with this particular thing in a really bad way. You're you're conspiracy version is the person who comes up with the twist has to justify keeping their job. So this is an example of that where the person who's like, oh guys, we need a new twist. We definitely need a new twist. And so it coincides with keeping top safe. Yeah. I just I just saw a Marie. So when a when ochre like of tweets condemning the tame are dancing on Tom's grave. That was a bad look for taymor. I know there are people who are defending her especially people who have really come out strongly against her actions. But I mean, it was kinda mean Connor rude. Okay. When I co- Wong. Okay. Well, let's just in case the so, obviously, we get the twist and. It does not help. The twist is completely nullified taymor wins. It she never needed. It. Lovely. I'm I'm pleased, another another twist completely useless. I mean, how I think there's a lot more twists that have been completely useless than have actually done anything in the house at this point in the history of big brother, and I'm very pleased about that. So then Tom, of course, does not when the safety competition is his allies. Do not wanna h h and then he'd is not win the veto. We're going to get a low low H and taymor veto. Tom is going to be voted out by vote of whatever to whatever. Tom is gonna leave the house and on his way out taymor is literally not only had she been yelling at him apparently. But she's literally dancing, and he tried. He even like like Ricky gives him a hug, low low of all people is being a good sport. And like being like, you know, what Tom you were great guy and Thomas trying to say goodbye to taymor. And she's just like. I was like what are you doing? This jury management is got to be some of the worst of ever seen. And literally I was just refreshing my Twitter, and I saw Marissa liking tweet about hey, don't be doing that. And I think we think we know Melissa she's got some influence here. She at least you represents viewpoint from these jurors. So. It's kind of ties into one of the bigger narratives of this update, which I think is one of the few updates. We have which is tame Mars jury management's, just it's really really falling. Even just last night. I was saying I think Lolo probably need to miracle to win this game. And I think our miracle is tame Braxton because I feel like Lolo might be able to beat her at this. I don't understand if okay. I don't think I know if tame knows how the votes work in the end, I really just think that somehow she only watched the first couple episodes and didn't realize what happens with the vote at the end and what people make their decisions based on. Because I just can't imagine somebody who understands those final mechanics 'having that way. Even if you are super emotional, or you know, you are really reacting and like a crazy way. I mean, we saw Ricky lo lo so at least being able to say, hey, sorry to see you go or whatever at least hug him going out the door. So so, that's my personal opinion. I think she. Really understand how it works. And that's why her I mean on top of sort of like normal pattern of behavior because that's the only thing that really makes sense to me at this moment. And yet she's the person who knows the show the best of everyone on the cast. She I mean, she's she's talking about chicken, George. Like, how does she not know this? It's it's insanity. And like she did dance. She did do the happy dance. When Cato was victim just like right after he left, and he got to see it on the monitor which was like bad enough. But this was like in Tom's face. His one is way out the door like just so mean, and like I said if IKEA Wong is like taymor girl that was mean, you know, you've done something wrong. I think IKEA is is like the person who rides that line. And I know there are people on either side of that line in terms of how they've you IKEA. But I feel like I could knows what that line is Tim clearly as passed it. Well, I think what I appreciate it. From was this delineation between it still being humorous and making sort of the humor jabs along with the actual jobs, and this she said cross the line away from humor. And more into sort of just the mean side of everything. And I think that that's definitely how it came across. So I just don't know what what she's thinking here. But Thomas victim, and I've got to say after this double eviction, I was actually feeling a little good. I kind of like the second Tom won the h that he one I was like he's done in the double vision of. And then when the the twist came I was like, I kind of I'm sorry Thom. But like if you stay because of this twist, I can't I can't root for you. It's too. Hickey? And so this Tom leaving is what I expected, but the way that he left was very good for candy. And I was very happy about that. Because everyone knows I'm candy. Stan right now candy is left in a position. Now where the only person she needs to worry about winning the next h is Ricky other than that. She's she's like easily my front runner. And I tweeted it I think candy is the front runner to win. I think Ricky is positioned second-best. And and I'm okay with that. I would love to see a candy with him feeling. Pretty good feeds come back on after the double of action. Pre h we've got tame are low and Ricky talking and tame mar is really really just trying to work her jury management into an even worse place. She's really working hard to do that. Now. The Tom's gone. We can have fun. He made it he made it not. He was like a cloud of negatively that Tom. He was the worst. He had. To go. He must think I'm so mean for yelling at him and dancing, but he deserved it. Well, now, they can have fun because Tom's not there to drink all the coffee because we know drinking coffee is a lot of fun. And so now, they can drink coffee and have fun, obviously. And Ricky of old people goes to. Tamer Tom's gone. We don't need to talking about like that. I did love that. And I love Ricky saying we don't need to say his name. Joe? Let us not speak his name. He who must not be. We don't we don't have to do this anymore. Like, I it's it's so strange like Ricky, I feel like has understood. Okay. I'm going to start being nicer. I'm going to start working. My jury management a little bit more. And tame Maher is like doing the opposite. Like, I need to start being meaner to start making sure nobody votes for me in the end. I guess. I guess so weird because I thought that a jury vote between the two of them would kind of be close, but I feel like no not really not anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think anymore. I mean, I think this is a case where Ricky especially early on had done a lot of things for people wrong way. But that sort of washes away with the recency buys a particular actions. And so that's really what you look at when you're gonna make a jury vote, and the fact that these celebrities come out of the house, and they are going to be influenced by the people on the outside. They're going to be influenced by people who have played the game before people like Mersa, and that's just an inevitability. And so when you have people like tame are who are acting this way. Now, I mean that leaves sort of a darker stain on them. And so I just don't think that they're able to get to the end. Looking at it. You know, tame Maher is going to be up against likely up against candy who she loses to or the second was likely person. She is in the end with because I think that she probably would take Ricky over Lolo is Ricky, and I was looking at it was like if she's up against Ricky. It could be a close vote. It would probably come down to Jonathan and Ryan and maybe Joey like who they would want to vote for and that was kind of up in the air. Jonathan is kind of on record saying like would hate to have to vote between those two, but Jonathan is also a big Tom green fan. And if you want episode, he's probably and he sees the reaction of Ricky being like, hey, guys, let's chill on on Tom. You know, he was a good guy versus tame Harz. Like, yes, he's outta here. Identified his face. He deserved it. And Tom did nothing to tame more like. The crazy thing is like he actually did do a little bit of something to low in that like he did they were both involved in the dissolution of that alliance. He did nothing to tame our except for that one conversation with her where she thought he was threatening her. And then he in this in the episode. We saw Tom talking to candy and he threw out Mars name. And he was not even considering nominating her that they just put that in the edit because it made more sense than the misunderstanding that it actually was Tom in that conversation candy kept saying was threatening her. So he was like, okay, I'm not not threatening. Let's drought. Every single possibility. I could use the veto. I could put up Tina I could use veto. I could put up Lolo I could use the veto. I could put up taymor. They cut that part. And then put it in the episode because it made more sense that way. But if z saw candy never even said outright that Tom was gonna put taymor on the block. She. Assumed it and then yelled at him. And you saw Tom like that's not even what happened. You're yelling at me. And that's not even what happened. Unfortunately, Jaren I really don't think you're going to get the edit that you wanted where it was the side by side what happened and then the retelling of story because clearly we're not getting that. And these up. Yeah. I mean, like, I think they edited that well is just like. You know? I just don't understand. I mean, that's okay. So that's a problem. When you have a logical behavior is that when you're trying to put together, a cohesive narrative, it's much harder to put together the true narrative when you have people acting logically. So they try to put it together in a way that would make sense for the viewer to understand. But it just so happens, then that you can't tell the quote unquote, real story because it wouldn't make sense because the behavior doesn't make sense. So anyway. That's about it feeds go down for the H competition. Like, I said, I'm feeling pretty good. I feel like candies are front runner. All she needs to do is not have Ricky when the wage she should be, okay. Rickie Wednesday church. Why? I was like I was like I took the hit. I was like feeling good. After this double vision. You can't bring me down. Rickie when the h and one of the first things he says on the feeds is candies. Mytalk. Yeah. Exactly. He was like can't better when the veto or she's going home. For those of you listening to the audio only Taryn has collapsed to the floor in anguish. I assume about this situation wanted to win so bad. I know I know it was rough for me to like. Okay. You know what? It's okay. The Tom has gone because candy Ivan hasn't played the best game. It's been like she is my inspiration. I love her. She's so successful. I want to be her. Oh and Ricky one crap. Yeah. Not things are not looking good. For candy Ricky as a conversation with Lolo in taymor. He's candies. My target is going gonna put up Dina next tour. He asks taymor is that okay? Is it? All right, then I'm talking candy your h h. So there you go. He talks to he talks about he's talked about Tom and how he felt like Tom had a big applause when he left, and he was like know what he deserved it. He played a hell of a game. Like good for Tom and taymor is like no they were cheering because he was gone. Yeah. I was actually really impressed with Ricky in that moment. The fact that he caught on because I mean, I could hear it at home. And usually when it's really loud, you know, that the houseguests can hear it too because we've heard stories of previous houseguests talking about when they can hear the crowd. And so I was like oh, man. I really I hope I hope they hear it and Ricky took it the correct way interpreted the information the correct way, and our took it and interpreted the information in the correct way. Not surprising. The level of like, look the be self-deception. Like, again, she's watched the show when has the crowd ever cheered loud. Because of the person leaving. No they cheer because they love the person. That's how it's always worked. But somehow in taymor is headed it's like, no, Tom is the worst person in the world. They would never cheer for him. They would only cheer because he's left. They were dancing with me. Yeah. Well, he's the bad guy in the movie, and when the bad guy in the movie dies the audience. Cheers, obviously. So that's that's how she's put to into together. Yeah. Ricki decides he's going to he's going to stay in the bedroom. He's going let candy and Dina have the h that's just love that bedroom. It's legendary Natalie puts it. So that's that's really what's going on here DNA in candy discussed the they're going up on the block probably Dina thinks that they're gonna vote her out. But and they also realize that even if they do if either of them win the veto, then Ricky will be forced to put up either taymor or Lolo, but they won't have the votes to Vic. Taymor or Lolo? So they're pretty screwed. Yeah. It's going to be one of the two. I'm going like, I mean, unless something absolutely crazy happens just based on the houseguests who can do math inside the house have figured out. The fact that it doesn't really matter because there's two votes to Vic plus Ricky is the tiebreaker. So even yeah. Like you said if either candy comes off or Dina comes off either tame our logo. But then it still doesn't matter because it's one v one and Ricky will break the tie in favor of either candy organic going home. Yes. So interesting interesting stuff basically in order for candy to stay. She needs to win the veto. There's a small chance that if taymor wins the veto. She might decide to use it on candy. You never know. They do have this relationship. They have been working together. We know that tamer wants to be in the final two with candy doing so would betray Ricky and Lolo. So I don't know if she's if she's willing to do that. But if she used the veto on candy, then Lola would go up in her place. She could still vote Dina out. Which I think would be the worst thing for her game. If she does still plan on taking candy. I think if if she plans on taking candy vinyl to the final two and uses the veto and takes DNA out here Dina, leaving means that taymor is drawing dead because she wins. She takes candy Ricky or Lola when they take each other. She there's no way for her to win. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with cosign. Yeah. And I think that tame our is deliberate when she chooses her words when she speaks. So for example, when Ricky ask can I have your permission to put up candy? She Tim are said, well, it's your HOA JR. It wasn't like yes. Of course. All my gosh. I want her out. It was while it's your joy, you know, you need to do what you need to do. And so that gives me at least a flicker of hope that there could be something where taymor could save candy in some way. Although all to me, you know, horrible kmarts game. But it would be helpful for me as a candy candystand. But we'll we'll see how plays out. Yes. So that's interesting there. I think that ultimately, it's you know, I was trying to think about it like taymor just stopped being bad jury management. She could use the veto on on candy, and then get Lolo, and then she would be in the end with candy who would take her. She would probably lose anyway. But still, but then she would force Ricky to take her to the final two would have a fifty percent chance of getting to the end with Ricky and potentially went as long as she was capable of recognizing that she shouldn't take candy and she was capable of knob being. So meanwhile, while while Ricky is being nice like that would that is her path to win. But I I'm really starting to feel like candy that the taymor has kind of replaced Lolo in the she needs a miracle. I just don't know how she can win at all. I think that even Lolo might be able to beat her at this point. I really do because even Lolo is being more respectful. She's she's. Taking her cues from Ricky. And which I was always like, you know, Lola just needs better friends will like are more positive, and she she is kind of like taking Ricky's positive vibes oddly enough. Tom was maybe a little bit, right? That that Ricky Ken kind of influence Lolo little bit here. And she's being a little more respectful of Tom. And again in the meantime, pay mart is is not. So I'm really starting to feel like Lolo could potentially win this game. Yeah. It's very interesting. I don't know if it's because K mar feels like she is responsible for Tom going home because she wanted to be to- competition. And so I don't know if this is a case where she's trying to say, look how bad Tom was which makes me look better in comparison. Because I was the one who I was the one who got him out. So I don't know if that's how she said of the dynamic in her mind that if she sort of Vilnai, Tom that makes her look better. But yeah, it's very interesting to see lo-lose behavior. I think she is one hundred percent influenced by the people around her. Well, okay. Eighty percent influenced by the people around her. And so now the things sort of calmed down. It's interesting to see how she's behaving. But she she also gets sad when she got her Asia wage basket because she doesn't have a husband that was very motion for her. So I think she was going through that as well, which may have influenced her behavior. Yes. And another thing to think about too though is the rookie winnings h was actually pretty bad for low in the sense that she's now going to be going to the final four with Ricky, which means she's gonna take Ricky. I think Ricky beater Ricky takes her again Ricky beats I think taymor takes Ricky over Lola. So she would need to take her because she's not planning on taking Tate's. I keep talking about. These endgame scenarios where the person does not get their way as their winning has their wins. Except for Ricky now is in a really good spot. He has a final two with taymor. I do think taymor would take him if candies not there. He's got a final two with Lolo Lola will take him. I think he can beat both of them at this point. He's likely going to get to the final four with both of them, which means at least seventy five percent chance that he goes to the final two and wins the game. And he's being nicer on the feeds he's being more respectful. I feel like this at this point. It's Ricky's game to lose the one little thing that could stop that is candy winning veto. Can he wins the veto? You never know. What might happen? That's right fingers crossed. I think there's a chance that have candy wins veto in the option is deana or taymor, Ricky and Lolo might start to think do you know is not a threat. Tae Mars one three competitions candy still in the game. We know candy and taymor like working together. Maybe we wanna take out and leave Dina in the game. Yeah. Maybe I think it's it's really interesting because the fact that you have this final four situation where the person than just picks who they're going with the like the person wins literally one competition goes to the end and picks who goes. So it's interesting because I don't know if they perceive Dina as a threat to win. I don't think they do. The overall game. But if they perceive taymor to be competition threat, and they really see the threshold as being age you have to win that last competition than competition. Prowess takes priority over the win equity in the end. And so that could potentially influence how they're the decisions that they make because really it is all about winning that funnel competition. And. Yeah, like, you said taymor has proved that she can win competitions. I mean, especially because when when the feeds came back, Ricky and Lolo were talking about taymor. And they were like is she going to stay true to us. We like candy still here. She might wanna go work with candy. We only know that we have each other. And so if they're worried about taymor and candy working together. And they know that team are has won a lot of competitions. I could definitely see an instance where candy is safe. They're like, well, we need to at least break up that pair and taymor. So go to competitions. Yes. Maybe we don't win next to candy in the final two. But that doesn't matter if nobody else is taking us to the end anyway. And so we need to we just need to be more likely to get to the end. It actually is probably the better move for them. So it's interesting to think about I don't know if they if they will think about it. But they might and so just, you know, watch out for that. Yeah. I mean, if you're a delay, if we're talking do of duo like what two people would you wanna go up against candy and Dina, candy and tame our I think candy and Dina, obviously, I mean Dina is the person who saw Jonathan Bennett and missed him. So she pushed that button on the newsstand competition. That's the type of person you want to compete against in the final voyage. If you are convinced that it's if either of those two when they take if either of us to when we take each other, then it's one hundred percent down to competition wins. So it will really just be a matter of Cantate. Marcel. She's going to take Ricky to the final two over candy. If candy is safe. I think that's really what it's gonna come down to their taymor did talk to Lolo about like, hey, Hugh, who you're going to take the final two and Lolo was just like. Did I just blew off the question low very clearly at this point, not taking taymor. And I think team are probably realizes that. So another interesting to was trying to make the argument that well, no one likes me should take me. And it was like that is true. Teams jury does. I don't know about that people love you. You won the fan favorite thing. You know? Yeah. And that's the thing is that you know, because she had the power of the publicist even though they don't know they all know thinking about maybe she is really well liked and that could translate to the other people who play the game. He, you know. So that is floating around in their minds, also, which I think that makes 'love. Yeah. For sure wanna take Ricky and not to our. I almo I said if Joey wins that power I think that it kills his chances of winning the game because nobody would ever take him to the end. I think it had less of an impact on taymor. But it still has some impact. This I especially with a with a system set up where you have to be taken to the final at the final four any perceived likability. Especially coming from an outside objective source is is really huge detriment to you. And so I think it really it really could. Because again, I think that Lolo taking tame are is her only win condition at this point. Could really cost the cost. The win is winning that publicist power. Yeah. Exactly. And I think that's what makes makes this final four really bizarre is because it the only way you have to get there is to win and you're choosing between three people to take with you. And so yeah, like, you said it does boil down to if you think that person would be like at all you absolute don't take them. So unless you have three goats to choose from. You know, you're going to end up picking the person that you you perceive to be the least liked so as of right now, I'm looking at Ricky as the very heavy favor to win this game. Probably followed by. Deana who's got you know, she's probably gonna stay as long as candy doesn't win. The veto DNA is probably going to be safe. And here's the thing. Even if candy does win the veto taymor might leave instead of DNA, which point Dina has at least a one four chance of winning that final four H hasn't won anything yet. But she's not been too far from winning things like she's only like a couple of questions behind in most question competitions. And she was only a couple numbers away in the competition's last night. So it's not it's not impossible, especially with only competing against only three people. And if she wins that she wins the whole game hands down. I think she wins against anyone in a jury vote. No matter what. And then if candy does when the veto and candy still stays I think that she hasn't even better shot because I think that there's a chance that candy would take her to the end over Ricky or Lolo, although candies probably smart enough to realize should not take Tina and she should take Lola. But you never know. Never not with these people. So. I think teams probably second most likely then I think candy just by the sheer fact if she could win the veto if she wins the veto, then she's got a decent chance of sticking in here and winning that final four H wage and winning the game. And then I'm really at this point. Damar so hard seeing them win the game in any scenario at this point. Yeah. Yeah. I completely agree. I think. So I think if the fact that candy has such an uphill battle ahead of her. I think that the third spot really is the right place to put her just because of that. But I think I mean for me, I would put money on Ricky just because I really think that based on what we seen from competitions. Again, you never know we could see Dino in. But I think the fact that Lolo and Ricky are so close for sure they're both going into the final four. I mean, that's a fifty percent chance. Even if you're just saying straight probability, not based on previous win competitions or competition wins. Gosh, I'm Kato kaylin. Caitlyn Ming right now for Dina ING. My driver's bus expired license, I what did she say Vic to vix to votes, those good. So anyway, so yeah, I think I think Ricky is most likely the odds on favorite to win. That's too. I'd put my money on. And I mean, he has been probably the most strategic player throughout the entire season. We've talked about it before he's been the best position player throughout most of the season. It's really just his own his his only weakness has been the weird moments that he has when he calls, Tom creek. Or when he's he throws in a little bit of trash talk with with lower Natalie, but apart from that he has been probably the most strategic. I'd still say candies a better overall player. But you know, you can see where Ricky is positioned super well right now, and it's because of the work he's been doing throughout the season. And I think that we've also talked about how his trash-talking has been more strategically focused than some of the other trash talk in the house. So. You know, it's not the ideal outcome, but it's an outcome. That's true. It is an outcome of this game. Yeah. We also had the fan favourite thing. I feel like especially with the timing of when fan favourite was announced being right at like TOMS downfall. I really feel like Tom has it? Yeah. I think so too. I I feel really strongly that it's going to be Tom. I think the he's somebody that has been shown in just sort of a really silly weird positive light on the show. And I think sometimes we can underestimate the power of the casual viewer who's not keeping up with the feeds. And so I think that they're seeing Tom on the show just doing his fun coffee song and is weird cereal. Birds thing that was never explained if you're a casual viewer. And so you have absolutely no context for that occurring. But it's kind of this just bizarre lovable thing. And so I have to imagine that he's the front runner for America's favorite houseguest. From what I've seen from the casual audience. They're super pro Tom, very anti tame are, and I think that even a lot of the feeders are pro Tom and anti taymor tamer would likely be the second most likely, but honestly, I'm not even sure at this point. So I really feel like it's probably Tom here, especially because he also gives that sort of. Giving the fan favourite to the person that everyone thought was the bad guy when they thought they were the good guy like as soon as Tom wins. It taymor is going to be like, and and you know, Lolo, and Rick you're gonna this point Ricky's like he he knows but taymor would be very infant. Yeah. I would love to see that face gang. Freaky, 'Grande reaction. I think what shouldn't be overlooked. Also, the voting mechanic of how you vote because I think one of the reasons why taymor was able to win the power of the publicist because it was on Twitter and different fan bases can coalesce on different social media platforms. And so the fact that if you have Twitter being where you vote you're going to have a bias towards those people who more heavily used what are whereas if you vote on the CBS website, then you know, it doesn't necessarily have a bias towards one social media platform or another. And so I think that that also is in TOMS favor and to tame Mars detriment agree. And I think that you know. What happened with the Twitter votes is that, you know, tame our had like her sister and other people who are huge on Twitter to support her. And I think that incentivizes people to vote on Twitter to reply to like Toni Braxton tweet with hashtag being like, hey, look like Z me. I'm supporting whereas if it's just a link, then you have no, there's no visible way. And it's an extra step. And so I think that the sort of who has the most social media following has less of an impact on CBS VO and the viewers of big brother have more influence with that one. So something to think about things to think about yes. So like, I said not much in the way of updates, but lots to talk about in terms of analysis and everything around that. I'll probably we'll probably do is starting tomorrow or maybe Monday. We'll just we'll start going over what we expect the final four to be in terms of like what their game has been in. What their chances are kind of like how we do the end of the game retrospectives on the last few days. The live feeds for the regular season. There's not a whole lot to talk about in terms of the game. So we'll just kind of combine it with updates as well and see how that goes. It's kind of just like it's a nebulous thing right now. But we'll have fun with. Yeah. So I I don't know if you have an insight into the schedule, but I know that they were told last night that they had to be up early today, and there's going to be some sort of lock down. So I don't know if they're gonna be doing the competition if there's going to be than like, a retrospective on the season or something like that one of those oh, remember this moment type deals, but I remember hearing that at some point last night. So I don't know what the feed situation is gonna look like today. I mean. Look they have a lot of footage that they can use that. They did not use a grant them that. But a three a clip show for three weeks season is even when you have a ton of gold that you left on the on the cutting floor. That's still pretty like, really? Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying that it's for sure gonna happen book. Just just in case prepare yourself. So yeah, that's pretty much got. I do want to just say people's emotions are running high. The double vision is crazy intense time a lot of a lot of people are yelling at each other. Let's just remember Tom's message everyone it's just a game. It's just a game. We don't need to be mad. We don't need to call people names. Some people are doing things we disagree with. That's fine. It doesn't make them. A terrible person is just a game. We're all good. We can we can live in harmony, and peace and wonderful happiness love and light love and light fund fund fund. Big brother is a lot of fun. Yes. All right. That's all we've got for you. You can find us on Twitter. I'm at Armstrong Taryn Liana is Liana Boris and. Tune in tomorrow morning, eleven AM eastern tell you everything that happened today on the big better celebrity to live feeds, thanks for joining us next. Let's say you just bought a house bad news is you're one step closer to becoming your parents, you'll probably mold along and give anybody noticed you mow the lawn till people to stay off the lawn compare it to your neighbor's lawn and complain about having to mow the lawn again, good news is it's easy to bundle home and auto through progressive and save on your car insurance. 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Canadian good luck charm. That's all down to Jenny. And need to take some credit any something to feel good about. Okay. We are here to talk about everything that happened on the big brother celebrity to live feeds yesterday and. Let's do it. There wasn't a whole lot of movement. Obviously again, sort of the slow H wage previously, not not a lot happening there. And then we do not really have much update you in terms of what the plan is. So I should focus a little more on some of the small details along the way here that went down, for instance, if you watched the last night, you know, Tom was very convinced that he was going to go home part of that. I'm sure is as they mentioned last night on the podcast that he is talking about I need to like just play dead. But also part of it is that he genuinely believed that he was going home last night. He talked to Kato before the vixen about how they Natalie low and Ricky brought him into a room, and they're like, hey, so we're going to keep we're going to keep you. And he was like they're just trying to make me comfortable if for the veto. So I don't win it. They. They want me gone. They're lying to me. I know it. And so he was very convinced me. He bet Cato a beer as you saw. Yeah, he's Hugh. He was not trusting that pitch last night, and they had human Cato have their little chop before the the episode. And he's is like, you know, I'll be very surprised if if they say your name tonight, and in Kato talks a bit about hypotheticals, but he you can tell that he kind of is on the same page in things. And as we see through the episode really thinks that he's that he's the one that staying in Thomas going so convince. It's again very convincing talked about. It's it's like every time one of them has an idea, and they're able to convince the other one it happens to be the wrong idea. Why couldn't Tom convince Cato of this? When Cato was h he could have done something about it. Why couldn't Kato stop Tom from from from, you know, playing murder mystery. I don't know about these things Kato can only like they can only convince each other of things that are totally inconsequential that or not going to help their eight months, whatever. Yes. Ridiculous. All right. So as you saw on the episode last night, we did get Kato evicted by a five to zero and Tom was shocked. Yeah. And he well one his shocked. He's staying and. Yeah. Like, he's not he's not expecting this at all. And now he's got to figure out going on from here. Whether he wants to win this thing next. Didn't go well for him last. It's true. It's true. People were talking about how Ricky was asking to have Kato hold the door open. When it was like do. I do I open the door open the door. Do I do is this allowed guys my luck to do this? I've only seen like four other people leave, but. I can't really remember. Did they open it? Somebody else using part of the game for Kato kaylin. How does the door open? Ricky was hoping his wife would be in the audience. That's why he wanted to see through the door. He thought maybe he'd get glimpse of her. I believe I believe that was what was going on there. Like do people that aren't even up for auction to their family members, usually come to the taping. We'll that's what they were. Like did does. She is she coming to all of them. He's like, I don't know. I would imagine that even if they did have the family members come that. There would be like, no you're sitting not incite of the door. You can't give any signals. No collusion in big brother, not allowed especially especially a guy like Ricky. I'm sure he's got plenty of football signals. You talked about it with his wife beforehand. So no how you communicate such thing. But. I'm sure that he's got something. So after the fiction, Tom the feeds come come back. Tom Kato, there's already Tom candy Dina entail. Mar we're talking and Tom was explaining about like, you know, I really thought I was going to go, and he was talking about how you know. Basically, what happened was he had his show on MTV? He'd worked so hard to get a show onto onto TV and it was like the height of his success. And then boom, he was hit with a cancer diagnosis in the middle of all of that. And kind of like wrecked his whole trajectory. And so he just he's explaining like, he's always feels like the rug is going to get pulled out from under him ever since that moment that like something else is going to come. These always always been just like a little bit pessimistic. And it's kind of a touching moment. Candy goes gets up and she hugs him use. I'm so glad you're here, Tom. And so that that was going on there. I love their relationship. I like, I don't know. I just really especially now because like they really need each. Other. Just the conversations that they have always seemed really genuine, and I think that like as soon as Kato leaves the house like the energy changes, and you can just even everyone's kind of talking about it saying like, you know, like I really like him. I think he's going to be a little bit more calm now. Like, you can tell that the perception is that Cato was like, maybe like a bad influence on Tom and not. You know, heart of their their partnership might be why he acted a little bit the way he did. And there's just little like this lightness to the vibe as soon as the episode ends and Cato's gone. But that was like a really nice conversation. And I again, really enjoy the the the vibe between candy, and Tom, and I think that she's like Kato acted like he had all of the game like perceptions to feed to Tom, but I actually candies actually got good actually. So. This is the partner that he actually means. So I'm like really hoping that this is going to come together and work out something, I think to your point about the, you know, they're certainly more Tom cheche talking that we'll get to. But, but I think there's something to this idea that all now that we got rid of Kato. There's there's this sort of narrative creation that goes on in your head when you're trying to be defensive about something or trying to create a narrative in where in which you're the hero, right? Where if Tom and Cato are these crazy villains and they've done such terrible things to you. But you know, all they really did was play murder mystery and then ever since then they've just been like Chillan, it's hard to like continually convinced yourself that there's such terrible people because they're not doing anything. So I think that when you are able to take Kato out of the game. And now, it's Tom. It's like, okay here, we go. Now, it can start to make sense of this. Problem was Kato. And so now that it's just Tom. It's not as much of a problem anymore. You know, Tom without Kato is really a lot better. And that explains why my you know, inside narrative is not matching the outside narrative. It's it's all because of Kato. And so the, you know, you're able to sort of like, okay, this I can make sense of this in my head. I can I can rationalize this, well and Lolo and like Lolo, especially, but Lou and Natalie tend to do this like host fiction thing, we saw it after they voted out Ryan where they they kind of like over talk the reasoning who why they got there to like justify because we see we see this after Ryan goes where Lolo is like kind of feeling a little guilty. She has like cures, and then she's like what they they weren't including us on anything, and they would've flipped on us. And they they were tired with each other in like justify like you can tell that there's like a little part of her. That's like oh shit. Did I like this look bad or? Was I may be maybe take this too far. And then it's like they go back to this like, no, no. And we see them do this tonight or last night. I dunno again tearing I don't know what time is of. But we see them do it again last night after Kato goes being like, you know, because there's conversation about UK, we'll talk us to go and actually super nicely. I think team are says it like, oh, he's a great guy. But like he gotta go next. And then. Yeah, Lolo again is like, you know, like, they just they just didn't stick with us. And they would have they would have picked up candy anyway. And like just creating this like they would have been would have gone against us. Anyway, trying to justify like everything that just happened in this last insane wheat. So so they're definitely doing some like narrative twisting to like almost sued their own like there's a little piece of their of their consciousness inside of them saying like was it really that bad was like was really they were such people. Why they go even like even harder with the justifications. It's because you know, the the the harder you find it to to justify the harder you need to search for justifications in the firm or you need to be in your position because otherwise, you expose yourself to the terrifying notion that oh, I might be wrong. No. And they all seek each other for validation of like what they're doing. So and this this happens every season on big. Yeah. This is very very typical behavior. It's just it's made all the worse when you know that these jury member's watching. Types. It's one thing to do this. You know when it's this. This can be in its own twisted way, a kind of team building a kind of you know. No way to keep people from bonding with others and working with you and so on and so forth, but you can't use this particular tactic on celebrity big, brother. It is not an effective one because they will see it. So you really you really gotta be careful here. Yeah. And there's nothing about this season. That has been careful. I will say so yesterday yesterday, I talked about how none of these people are playing well is strategically this house is is just a big mess. So just pick pick your person and just bring. Okay, just do whatever you want because nobody deserves to win this game. I wanna says there's no such thing as deserving and big brother. That's pretty much gospel. I have I have I guess today. I was I was thinking about it. I was watching a candy on the feeds, and I was just like, you know, what? Candies. My person I'm all in on candy. I just love her. Rate. I'm like I'm loving. I mean, I feel like, you know, calm isn't long for the world. But like seeing him and candy like I'm all in on the two of them. Now, candy isn't incredible. And she's really rising up. Now, we're really getting to see more from her which I'm so here for she's just like the only normal person in that house. She's intelligent. She's well dressed. She's poised. She's successful. I'm all just sitting in the corner. While all of this is like just popping off to minding your own business, and you could like little like like scenes of her kind of like a little bit aside. I've like it's so it's so under the radar like, she's just low key, shady, I love it. I saw someone comments about like, you know, man. I wish I had her style sends. She's always looking good in the house. I was she his always looking good in that. She. Killing get linka. Like an update on like how you feel but like candies outfit everyday like you. I think I really here for like parents like I wasn't sure about the black lipstick at first. But like I'm in I'm into it. Now, I'm good if it's black and feel like it's like a navy, blue or. And meeting semantics. Look, I can't pay that close. I want you to I o. I want your take on candy's look. Yes. So we're also going to get Natalie Lolo and Ricky talking about again, K Kato's fiction, and how you know, he deserved it and everything they're also going to talk about who who had the power who had it who. Do we think was it you Ricky? With me. It was tamer. Let's be really was tame are they agree. It was it was probably time. Right. They could see why she would be the favourite. Yeah. There's I mean who couldn't see why she would be favorite. So I mean, we we got the announcement during the episode that it's expired, so it's all all this matter anymore. But they they recognize that probably makes the most sense. So also going going to get a conversation between Tom and Lolo. Tom is going to be like, hey, look. I'm again, I'm sorry. He has already politics. He's in again. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. If I came off in a way that not intend to I really did not want to make anybody feel uncomfortable. I I was just trying to have some fun. I really was. I would you know, they introduced this. Twist this power. And I was like, hey, like, I'm sure they want content of people trying to find out who has the power. That's the point of introducing the power and telling us about it and not telling us who it was. So I was like, hey, let's play murder mystery. Let's find out who has the power. I did not mean for it to make anyone feel uncomfortable or to make you feel uncomfortable in in our alliance that was not my intention, and I'm sorry. If it came off that way. Yeah. That whole conversation was so mad at and very interesting to watch just because Tom goes on and on about like, his realizing that he's like sort of playing a character. And that it's still a TV show, and he is like all this experience TV. And so like, he's always thinking about a scenes, and he thinks it would be really funny to have all of these like, you know, spliced together clips of him like interrogating different people about who like who has the power. And that he really thought it would be really funny, and that's what he was trying to play up, and like, well, let's kind of like playing along being like I like I really never thought of it that way. But like, you know, everyone's really paranoid. And like we're playing a game and people like didn't take it funny. Yeah. You're running around like a crazy person. Wasn't wasn't mind engine. I I see where you're coming from though. And I apologize. Weird though this conversation. Like, what strikes me about it is that like Tom Thomas kind of explaining and he's like recognizing like, I was not my intention like I was really just thinking about it, you know, from an entertainment standpoint. And that was my mistake, and blah, blah, and like she's just like, yeah. Like, you were really really acting like a maniac like you can't do that again, Tom. And like at no point just she ever of knowledge any of her behavior at any point like it. She really has this perception that everything that went on between this alliance of five in the last week is somehow just trace back to all things to just be traced back to on how and how he acted about the power. And if it weren't for that, then like, none of the things that were said would be settling. She doesn't even acknowledge her place in it at all. It's absolutely frustrating to watch because. Yes, you can totally recognize that, you know, not great gameplay from Thomson like you alienated. People in your alliance by like, you know, interrogating them and stuff like that. But she's just like, yeah. Like, you will you really you really shouldn't have done that and is explaining that part away. And it's just like, oh, yeah. And you know, let's forget about all the times that we were all screaming at each other. And you know. Accusing each other of being things that maybe don't you shouldn't be, you know, saying on he does this look very little acknowledgement or understanding of what of what Thomas saying where he's he's trying to explain where he was coming from. And she is hearing what he's saying. But she's not accepting what he's saying. And so like when when Thomas saying this is this is what happened. I just wanted to play murder mystery, blah, blah, blah. She's like just promise you go crazy again, he just explained that. He wasn't like he does not have. Right. But you know, this is still a positive conversation. I do think that Lolo this softened Tom in Lola's is. And I do think that she she tried in her own way here in this conversation. And I do think that she kind of believed him a little bit about this. And I feel like she was feeling okay. About this. And she s. As she bushy. Of course is going to say something along the lines of you know, if you would just stayed true. Sorry, if you hadn't been so crazy, we would have stayed true to the alliance, of course, is still all on you being crazy. But. You know, all of that. I I just wanna have fun. I just want to be nice, and I don't want to have to worry about winning. I don't even I don't even wanna be h. That too. Yes too stressful. I don't even want to win. Pretty sure this is. Partly partly genuine on Tom's part in the sense that he is genuinely explaining where you came from. And I think he's trying to like let's bring the intensity levels down. Although I think this part of it was almost definitely strategy going back to what he talked about with just play dead because he is going to end up winning this H. So pretty certainly he could have changed his mind. But I think that he was I think that he was intentionally trying to play up the, oh, I'm not even trying anymore guy's. Yeah. Like he does. I mean, I think you have to think that it's pretty obvious to everyone else. But he like from the moment that Cato's, well, even before because he was expecting to go. He's acting the whole evening like, let's just have fun like like, you know, totally downplaying threat level and. You take Kato out, and he's kind of a little bit like he's acting like defeated, but not like Moreau's about it. Like, he's still. He's still has a pretty good attitude about it. But he's just like, oh, yeah. That h h it was not fun. Let's never do that again. No shots for a couple of hours. So Natalie tame, mar and Ricky you're gonna ask about how lo-lose talk with Tom went Lolo explains and Natalie's just like not having it. She's really anti this conversation with Tom. She's like, you don't believe that to you like there's like a moment where you actually can see that Lolo did kind of hate some truth in it was like she says something like, well, even you know, there's there's a little bit of truth to every Joe and then like Natalie 'enrich, Ricky and team are all just like, no like this. Absolutely not what happened like it was not. There is nothing about how he was acting that was intentional as as a as a TV moment, and they like speak to you other moments where I think they said something about like, oh like when Ross and Maria were like trying to play up like a scene like they acknowledged it. And like there was never any likes moment where Tom was like. Knowledge that he was like playing it for the camera. So it's like because he didn't like say it to bam like in in the moment that it was happening. Like, oh, I'm just playing this up for TV like that. They're saying that that couldn't have possibly been what he was doing. And they just shut lowdown. They're like, no, no. This is big the Bill Bill hall in the chat points out correctly. They were completely dismissive of everything was telling him, and it was it was weird in this moment where I was like man Natalie really competing for the I'm gonna lose jury vote. Spot with Lola right now, low low is being the better one in this conversations. Risky business here Natalie. Yeah, there's a new luck where it's like lows. We'll maybe he's not that bad amend. They're just like no now. Like, absolutely not. That's bullshit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's he's cockiness just got to he's she goes on ego. Like, she's yeah. I just seen her say like he's a nice guy, but he's got to go. And then as soon as she sees like Lolo talking about like, well, like maybe there is like a little bit of truth that she's like, Nope. He's paranoid. He's cocky is ego got to them. That's what happened is just like, okay. Never mind. I won't bring it up again. The again, like they're going to get out of the house the the foreign plays like everybody saw on the show. And if you watch the fiends, especially, you know, Tom did not care who had the power he genuine. He was all about Rick. If anybody has anything to complain about. It's maybe Ricky, but even Ricky should be able to be understand like what's going to come in for him. Apart from that he genuinely he's said multiple times. I don't care who has the power. I'm just going after Ricky this is just like to have some fun into throw up a little bit of a smokescreen like they're going to they're going to be like, oh, they're not really gonna know that they've made a mistake. But let's let's. So candy and DNA talked a little bit about what they would do if they wanted to wage both agree Natalie and Lolo on the block. Let's do it. Yes. Scott can't they're talking about. What happens if there's the other side gots it who's going to go up, Tom and one of them. And then they're saying, you know, what we ought to break up those three what what's the way that we break up three candy correctly, in my opinion as us as that. You gotta break up Lolo and avidly. So that is good news. Thank you, candy can also talks with Tom about what what he would do. And he's like I thought about it yet and she pitches. Like, hey, not only in Lolo. You gotta take them out. If they if three of them Natalie Lolo and Ricky they stay in the game after this week. They will be the they will have a majority in the house. They're they're they're they're going to be they're going to be too dangerous. That's just math. Yeah. Well almost. But. So. Yeah, I mean, it's it's. Crazy stuff here. And basically what we're looking at heading into the issue h you got candy Dina, Tom on one side. They're all presumably, we presume Tom would nominate the women all going to be nominating Natalie and Lolo with Natalie as the presumed target, and then you have on the other side. Ricky, lo lo and Natalie fighting for the HOA JR. With Tom as the presumed target with candy likely going on the block next to him. So and they're expecting it's going to be some sort of physical competition because it's been a lot of non-physical the last couple. And so you gotta think like the three athletes versus Tom green Dina low and candy like what they're they're going in very confident into this HOA CHA, you know, the girls and Ricky so they're expecting physical, and I was concerned with. With the previous h your wage the tame are deciding to win. And then again, I feel like she made the right call here in keeping in in going after Tom and Kato, but the winning of the h was the really really terrible call and would likely lead to a rookie or Natalie win. And that was presumably going to be the turning point. That's what I said I was potentially wrong here because we did get the turning point here. The the unlikely scenario Tom is going to win the wage. It was the giant rolling dice competition. The one that I always remember it for being the veto that that Devon. Went home on. Sixteen. And apparently remember, so hosted it. Yeah. Omarosa there. Expecting that. They not what they talk about for most of the rest of the night when they get back excited. Everyone's like said, it's the Omarosa. Yeah. It makes perfect sense to me that Tom won this competition. It's all about figuring out the the the most the best path to get to the side of the thing. So sure my technically ship. He was into my American injury podcasting. I'm really great describing physical things. So you're welcome. But. The optimal path to get to the correct side of the die is is how to do this. So I this seems like it would be in Tom's wheelhouse. And so he did end up winning an and I tweeted out this morning when I saw I was just like all praise Tom green for the second time in a row. His saved this season from itself he has stopped the steam role and giving us a game. Again, was this good for Tom. It's good in the sense that he's not going to be a victim this week, but him winning the wage is not great for him in general because he is going to be a massive target heading into the next week, which is going to be a double vision. I very much expect the Tom is the most likely candidate for being a victim in the double vision. But look Tom was never Tom was never the wondrous strategic player that the Tom is is is dying for the. Good of the good of the show. He is he's person. Yes. He's he's brought us the entertainment we need. I said he is like a little piece of chaos at the big, brother. God's have injected into the season the same ones that gave us topazes vote and and big brother, Canada one. It's just he's he's just giving us what we need to keep the season going to keep it alive. Every time. We think it's going to die Tom green steps in. And he says no not today, we do not die on this day. We continue on celebrity big brother two. You're going to need. Same equally excited Taryn. That's all I have to say. Tom of Tom nature. Yeah. Atalie's pissed. She's not happy about this. What are the odds? What are the odds? Tom would win. There. Yeah there. This is the worst possible at one and insignia. Math again. Yeah, they're not they're not pleased about this that. Not only and tame are kind of talking in in the bedroom after like a little bit later after they come back, and they're like well get like what are you gonna do like win? Like just when the veto. I guess I like what are we gonna do like tomorrow? There's nothing we can do. I love like Shorter's uses with like she's like, well, that's what happened. The like. What are we gonna do complaint of evident net will not always talking to Lolo, and they're our we're going to be targeted? We're going to be targeted. That's that's annoying and probably be mean Ricky, and then you'll go up on the block if we win the veto and. Natalie will also go on. About well. Tom can't win in the end. He can't win. He's not going to get any jury folks that Tom. Little. You're gonna Natalie campaigning real hard for Lolo to win the game. Last night. I still don't think. Not it's enough. I don't think Natalie's campaigning enough for low to erase what's been done thus far. But yeah, she's yeah. She's really anti Tom last may until later when it's time to hang out in the H room. But that's neither here nor there the the the but kissing will commence put the lipstick on. Let's go. Yes. So Tom Tom has a conversation with only later in the night where? He she he explains the same the same stuff to her that he was explaining to Lolo like I was just trying to with it, you know, murder mystery and Natalie who previous was like that too. You know way to Tom she his like. Yeah. That makes sense. Which like, yeah. Good. Don't tell him. You don't believe him. But it was funny. Thirty. I'm breaking my co host this morning. We also got Natalie in Samar taymor taymor was also not happy about this outcome, Kate. Kate was probably happy. He's she's he's probably happy that Tom. Guess what Tom's going out next? So it doesn't it doesn't even matter. It just it just hurts. It hurts me. It hurts me to see Tom get this far. It hurts me that he might get to the end it hurts this link. I just I can't handle this the good people bad people narrative, and like now home is like the sole Representative of like the bad side. And it's just like, oh, how dare Tom green yet to the end what it's era person by when you're on the other side of it. These are the things you tell yourself feel better. So. Lolo is going to join them. And and then they're gonna they're gonna turn around onto taymor like, you know, really taymor. This is all your fault because you made us keep Natalie are sorry now he was saying this you made us keep candy. Candy who she is playing both sides. She is she probably through that h h which if she did could Joe. It sounds like there is a situation where she could have picked Tom or something like that. And she didn't early on. Yeah. This was another another knockout style competition where you pick your opponent. I believe and so obviously, she was not anti Tom because she's not stupid. And so they were very mad about that. This really was this Joey candy vote was hugely important. And you know, it's it's really worked out in Tom's favor. Here. So they're mad at taymor for keeping candy and not like, I I can't believe candies doing this to us after week saved her. Yeah. Like one. Yeah. Like, and the my favorite part of this whole conversation. So they're they're talking about. Yeah. So now Italy and willow seem to really think that candy was throwing it and KMart's like, no, she's not really doing that. And they're like, well, she's playing both sides. She didn't need to win this competition. Like, she probably through it. Taymor like she's playing, but she's been playing both sides. And then you're like, yeah. That's what we said. Well, if you had told me this I would not have kept her like on. This is very this is brand new information. I had zero idea that candy has been playing both sides. This is outrageous. And they're like, we told you. Yeah. And they're like candy. She's just going to get to the end. She has no blood on our hands. She's gonna win this thing in tamers like what? What you're not gonna she's not gonna get any votes. And they're like are you serious? Yeah. Of course, she will. I I'm a little concerned that taymor is endgame was to genuinely take candy thinking she would beat her. I think that is very possible at this point. I mean, I'm concerned. But I'm now kind of hoping. I was watching this and trying to figure is she acting like if she playing this up, but she genuinely was just like she really thinks that candy is a is a, you know, a non factor in this old game. And that is going to be a mistake for her. We might see sooner rather than later. So. Well, we'll see we'll see there's there's certainly a possibility that anytime taymor is talking with Natalie and Lolo that she is not being entirely genuine. We know that she is more attached to candy than we think. That's why I'm saying like I feel like potentially what happened in this conversation was that she was doing her regular thing of like. Yeah. Candy sucks. Bubba book weight. She's gonna win hold on. Wait a minute that doesn't that does not not good with what I was thinking about because I was thinking about betraying you and taking her now. That's I don't like that idea. What do I do? Now. Where's deana at? Deana talk to Tom late at night. And they don't really there's nothing really of importance in this conversation. Winning this still no real plan from Tom. He has not really given up what he plans on doing with the nomination. So as of right now anything could have there's a chance then Tom our savior makes a terrible mistake. Now fair enough with that end. That into the universe wonderful piece day, so far I really just hope that. Candy is in his ear enough to, you know, get him to make they're like, I hope that candy swoops in in Cato's observations, and, you know, get them on the right path with it needs to be Natalie and Lolo and that he's not too fixated on on this rookie things. So because that like that's not that's not the best player. I mean it all comes down to the Beato anyway. But the best situation is you put Natalie and Lola up on the block, and perhaps Ricky isn't even in the veto, right? Because we have enough people that Ricky might naked. I got a tweet from Nick raider on Twitter who suggested this for Tom, which I'm actually kind of on board with he said Tom's plan should be to put Natalie entail, mar on the block because basically what happens here is that if they both stay on the block, then you're looking at a tie vote. You're looking at Ricky and Lolo keeping Natalie you're looking at candy and Dina keeping taymor. You get to a break the ties still the vix Natalie, but really enforce these two sides. So that you tame are just had Ricky and Lolo vote against her potentially. And and then it pairs them off a little bit more to so now now, it seems like candy and dean are working together along with Tamar versus low low and Ricky, and maybe you stay out of the spotlight a little more and gets taymor mad at them in all of this stuff. I'm on board. And Tom doesn't really have anything to lose. As long as he feels good enough that Dina in candy won't flip. You're putting a lot like it's risky like from a logic standpoint. It totally makes sense. But you're you're putting a lot in the hands of people that you don't really have control of. And I know those are the two most stable people in the house in terms of like not blowing up and changing lands and stuff like that. But I would I would still be like with this particular house in the climate that we've seen this far. I I would be a little hesitant to put yourself in a situation where there's a very real possibility that it's like K mart that goes. And then the three are still together. You don't end up with two of the three on the block on a fiction night. Like that is kind of. Here's the thing though. That's certainly possible. But if that happens, then Tom screwed anyway, because that means that candy Ordina started working with the trio, which means he's he would have been screwed anyway because they would have been working with the trio, and he would have been on the outs. And he's already on the outs. I feel like I get Tom doesn't have that much to lose. I'm I'm pretty on board with this. We this. We actually we played a mini game of big brother at alive know, it alls, and I actually did this move at seven and it worked so I can vouch for it. Tested van it worked once it will always work. Yes. I did it to get Kirsten out. If you owe. Still will not forgive for that. I don't imagine. So I really don't think that he will do this move. But fun to think about it's possible. It would be it would be fun to watch it out that way. But I I kind of see Tom as being more likely to just go straight like not get cute with it and go for the straightforward put two to three on the block. And if one of them one's Beata the other one goes up, but. And remember now, I think the candy will push for low low and Natalie there's certainly a chance that Tom wants Ricky. He's certainly been set on Ricky for longtime. However, he did talk to Kato I believe two days ago about if we want H, h maybe we should try to cut a deal with Ricky and go after the women. So hard to say either way, I think almost certainly we're gonna lose one of Ricky Lolo or Natalie. There is a part of me that is that is like for the novelty of it at the very least like what if we lost Ricky? And then Tom, and it really is just like the final five or all women. That's never happened before that. So women to go in like the fact that we are in a situation where there's five women and two men left in a game that started with five women and seven men like it's it's absolutely insane. And for it to end up with a final five all the men just go out and sequence like that would be absolutely incredible. Just like just from you know, making history standpoint. And I think it'd be really entertaining to see how it plays out for memorable. We'd always be able to look back and be like remember that season where it was all women in the end. Yeah. I'm here for it. It's like the one bringing and I want him to win even though it seems like a very difficult path at this point. But if it's not going to happen this way, I would love it to be, you know, five women at the end, it's like the reverse Micronesia where they unintentionally become. So. So that's what's going on. Again. There's there's not a whole lot to update here apart from just the fact that Tom won this HR wage, we're going to get more of an idea of what he's planning today. I'm sure and I will be back tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that Thomas planning and everything else that happens. I can't wait a little bit of dancing late night. Tom green got a tribe called quest as his music, and he's like dancing with the key. And like he like rocked a couple lines knew it tribe called class. And so we've got another like at least we get Tom with the longer h rain. So we got like a little bit more Rolette. Well, he wasn't relaxed the less time. But I think this one will be a little bit better. I am feeling optimistic about this HOA Trine for Tom. If anyone is going to be h wage for the long period of five days, or whatever it is. I'm happy. It's Tom last time. It was Tom. He gave us some good feed. So hopefully, hopefully, we're good it seems like, you know. You know, it seems like the Natalie Ricky Lolo group here, they are not they're not doing the like death sleep sort of thing. They're doing like, we're super pissed or we're going to be bitter about it than which is usually a little more fun than the death sleep. So that's. So yeah, I think I think we're hopefully in for a good week. You're hopefully, it's not too straightforward. Either way. I think just the fact that we're seeing a little bit of a power shift is is something here. So. There's hope for the season yet. We gotta take what we can get at this point. It's last time last week. You were saying that no we were in for the steamroll, and we were just saying, well, at least we get a Tom green h to make it fun. And look at what happened in how weak a lot, and the things shifted in that there is still part of the core that you we worry about steamrolling, but Tom becomes the underdog and wins HOA. And so now, we don't have to worry about quite the same steamroll. So let me just arm. It just explain to everyone. How bad this how how much Tom has saved us the season. Because if Tom doesn't flip on that alliance. They bet alliance has basically one all of the competitions thus far. I saw somebody. I wish I could credit them on read it who talked about this like probably what would have happened in that previous h the tame are one is that if they hadn't been intentionally trying to get Kato and Tom out of the competition, if they had been working the other way trying to get taymor and candy and Dina out of the competition. Then Hato probably one that. And so it would have been Kato Tom Kato with low winning vetoes, and Tom and Kato winning the vetoes, and they would have just just trampled over everyone. And again, Tom winning this H wage. So it's like would have been it would have been just such a steamroll. It really would have been they would've just stumped. All the way to the end. But Tom was like no not today. Butterfly effect. Yeah. Yeah. Never know though. It's okay. I'm happy with this timeline. It's perfect make. I mean, it's it's been entertaining. I hope that if this week is going to be, you know, entertaining that it's not necessarily the same kind of entertaining as as the the last one. But I wanna see I wanna see them scramble a little bit as long as there's as long as Alison Gardner doesn't need to help you stop being like callous towards each other. And it's more. So just like them all being pissed off. And maybe some throwing throwing each other under the bus. It'd be cool to wait a minute. Did you did you see what just happened? Tom. Just put me on the block. It was so threatening. I. Mayes nuclear followed through with the threats from the previous week where he gave me that look threatening. Look, I I wonder what the speech is gonna look like it's going to be very threatening. Oh, yeah. Very all. Right. That's all we've got for you today. Make sure you find us on Twitter. I'm at Armstrong Taryn, January can people find you? I at Jenny autumn. There you go. Like, I said it'll be back tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the feeds and then tomorrow night, we will have the roundtable where we will update. The stuck watch and make more purchases we have a lot of money lost here as Alexandra pointed out on Twitter when she posted the stock watch statistics here. It's more interesting. When you lose more people along the week because you can't you can't sell and prepare for their eviction rob who is playing along in. This doc watch has lost fifteen dollars worth of shares with the addiction of Joey and Kato Melissa with eleven dollars lost showing Kato and Brent with four dollars lost myself with three. Joey eviction especially with like, you know, the entire community going into that live in fiction, not really knowing what the hell is going to happen. Think that screwed up a lot of people whose stock watch. So. Yeah, it was it was a real blunt side. And now, none of us. None of us have any candy. So I almost bought some candy shares. But I was like she's probably leaving his throwing my money away. I didn't buy them because I was just like. Yeah. Well, yeah. Oh, yeah. I I the reason I lost lessons because I bought Joey when he was cheap Robin Melissa bought him when he was expensive in right about to go the door. So I don't claim to be good at with money at all time money, not good with either of these things. So. All right. So make sure you check that out tomorrow night. I'm sure there's going to be plenty of stuff to talk about as well. So lots of great stuff. Have you winter of Stein is gonna come out today? I believe at some point. So. That's great stuff. Lots of great stuff. Thank you everyone for joining us saying it's done. Space some regions are vast and empty other areas. We call closets. Fortunately, Kevin from the container store has answers. Right. Kevin. What gives you the power over space? 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Little Happier: The Musical Song of Spider-Man and the Problem of the Unknown Knowns

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

04:13 min | 1 year ago

Little Happier: The Musical Song of Spider-Man and the Problem of the Unknown Knowns

"You know what i love. I love my sister. Elizabeth cat blackjack in our family. We have a dog barnaby but i get my cat fix when i go to visit elizabeth in l._a. Now i do love blackjack but there's something that i don't love and it's something that'll is. It doesn't love either. It's cleaning up blackjacks litterbox. Which is why armand hammer created new cloud control litter. There's no cloud of nasties when you scoop. It's one hundred percent does free free of heavy perfumes and helps reduce airborne dander gender from scooping so what happens in the litterbox stays in the litterbox new cloud control cat litter by arm and hammer more power to you because as much as you love your cat you don't love scooping up that litterbox new cloud control control cat litter by arm and hammer. I'm gretchen rubin and this is a little happier a while back. A friend told me you have to read this great book. Hook song of spiderman the inside story of the most controversial music in broadway history by glen berger it will change your life now. What a friend recommended book so oh highly. I run out and read it so i did. This book tells the story of the very controversial much criticized and debated musical song of spider man. It was one of the most expensive most ambitious and most dangerous broadway musicals of all time it was also a big flop this book talks about how the show came together and how despite or perhaps because of the involvement of so many brilliant people people like julie julie taymor and bono and so much money. It went terribly wrong. The book is the memoir of glen berger a playwright who co wrote the book for spiderman reflecting on the many intractable problems of that show burger rights so were we prepared donald rumsfeld talked of known knowns known unknowns and unknown unknowns but what this pertain to theaters much as two wars in iraq what he should've mentioned but didn't was a fourth category the unknown knowns tones according to slovene philosophers lavoix gee jack unknown unknowns are the things that we know or that we should know but maintained willful ignorance about because we'd rather not acknowledge them burger gives an example of how scenic designer bogged isn't your pull julie julie taymor and him aside at one point and he mentioned a problem he was having one at business roles was to meet with potential investors with the model of the set and explain the show to to them misinter- told taymor and burger. I've told destroy the show like a hundred times and it's a great story. It's really great but it's weird but there's this place in the middle of two and every time i got to it something just didn't make sense breath burger reflects that for their team this injures raising of this problem could have been the beginning of a long conversation with a serious and thorough examination of what was jamming the gears in the presentations but instead burger and julie taymor just moved on burger continues continues those concerns of ragas centers about the middle of the second act that we didn't want to investigate were another unknown known i i think this is a great phrase and a reminder and i've often experienced this problem in my own life. There is an unknown known something that i know oh deep down is a problem. It's something that should be addressed but because it's easier to ignore it our pretend like i don't know about it. It's helpful helpful to be reminded of the unknown unknowns and it's comforting to know that even the most professional and accomplished people struggle with them. I'm gretchen rubin helped. This makes your week a little happier.

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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | LFC Roundtable Feb 12

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2:19:17 hr | 1 year ago

Celebrity Big Brother 2 | LFC Roundtable Feb 12

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This is the podcast where we break down everything. From the feeds I'm strong. And with me today is Melissa eighty Melissa and doing well, I am I'm excited for that the Nollie tomorrow, I have no idea. What's going to happen? I really could not have predicted last season's finale. So I feel like we're going to we're in for a surprise, whatever that surprised, maybe. Yes. Very very interesting stuff. Also with me today is Brenton Brent. I am fine. You know, what occurs to me? Why do we have around? There's only three of us. I feel like it should be like a triangle table, you know. Hurry into old navy one day only today get fifty percent off all outerwear, plus get cozy socks for just two bucks. Yet fifty percent off all outerwear and two dollar cozy SOX one day. Only today at old navy and old navy dot com. Ends tonight Valla to seventeen exclusions apply. Can you number four of us before it can be like a square table? Like what we're not freaking nights. What a what are we saying? Here we are nights because he night. So down on on our night potential nights. Okay. That's fine. I'll do it. I'll be a name. Yes. We are. We are live here on YouTube the page does not is not on rob as a podcast at the moment. So so you have to find us on YouTube. I'm going to be tweeting out the link very shortly. So hopefully, you'll be joining us soon. But we are here to argue about everything that's happening on the big brother celebrity to live feeds, and it's what a what a week it's been Melissa. What are we what are we? There were highs. There were lows. There were very lows. I, you know, I'm not gonna lie after the double the double eviction night was really just one blow after another for me at least. And then we find out the new H O H. And I'm just like oh my God. Goodness. Get any worse. I even tweeted that out like I just couldn't help myself. But yeah, so, but there were some highs. You know, there's some good moments but few and far between do you still have hope for the season? Brent or you are you a little spent here. Oh, no. I have lots of hope for the season. I've never been out on the season. I mean, you it's definitely hard to lose, Tom. And then get a Ricky H and think we're going to lose candy. But we may not loose candy. And I'm not even sure like my my I think everyone's fear was a low Ricky final two. I think I think I speak for most people when I say that we were like really because you know, at least we could tame are in the final two, we we've got some entertainment, and she's really been fun, and she's played her frigging Asraf not that Lolo and Ricky heaven, but they've been a little down. They've been the they've been a little mean girls, especially low low and Ricky hasn't been mean girl, but he has sort of like, it's an us versus them mentality, which I know doesn't wear well on some of the fans, but overall, I'm really happy. With the season is and I think there's lots of possibilities. I literally think that anybody could win including all five of them at this point. And that's that's sort of interesting. And I think overall it's been a really great season. It's definitely been different than season one of celebrity big brother, and I feel like we have the cast thank for that. But you know, what came here to play and play hard. And you can't you you can say many things about willow Natalie, and and that will click over there, but they have played their ass off. And I respect them for that. All right. Well, let's talk about what's been happening. Since the last time, we podcast the link is out people are coming in. It's going to be great. It's going to be fine. So we ended the last round table shortly before Tom ended up using the veto on Ricky to save Ricky and put Lolo up in Ricky's place. That was kinda crazy, right? And then we eventually are going to see Natalie evicted by vote of four to zero there. So Natalie goes home instead of Ricky or Lolo, we were we were kind of expecting Ricky to leave. But but Ricky stays he stays alive, and that I think really could be like Tom could have made the decision to who wins the game there. I think they were two of the front runners, especially considering the fact that Lolo is so disliked in the jury it really mattered who stayed there, and and Ricky can cut a lucky break. Oh, yeah. I think that I mean if Tom if anyone else was in Tom's position. I don't see Ricky staying at all I think that to me. I don't know if they would have targeted tricky. Well, Tom, but it, but I mean, I mean, okay, say everything is exactly the same except for. It's not a guy like Tom who just like likes the idea of throwing in a wrench in the plans and surprising, everyone I feel like any other player in Tom's position. Would have just been like, okay, I'm sticking with what I what I wanted to do. I set out this week to get rid of Ricky lead, Stu it. But Tom finds enjoyment and making everyone shocked and that shock factor in that. Wow. Factor in that questioning like what why you know, he like drives off that sort of thing. So if any other player was there, they'd be like, look, I'm sticking to my guns. I'm gonna do I'm gonna take them off. Or if they wanted to go with what Candian Dino were saying and try and get rid of not only they would have just been like look on leaving them both on the block. But you guys can vote the way you want to vote I'm leaving it up to you. I think that because he decided to do this crazy Wild Thing. That's why. We're in this position that we're in right now. And we'd probably wouldn't be there without Tom. Yes. Tom certainly proved to be a wild card this season. And I've said it before I think that really kind of saved the game in the sense that he blew up his own game and opened up the field for everyone else in the process. So low low is going to end up winning the HOA JR. In the double eviction. She is going to nominate Tom and. Candy. Right. I can't pull. No Brent to hold on. Oh darn. Okay. Thank you. I'm plants. Well, you probably should say you're gonna do. You can't you can't do it Melissa you might need to probably should do it. It's show. You know? She didn't. I guess I thought she was going to quote Orissa there. I really thought she was going to be like you can't. And you will all the big brother candidate people were. But like, yeah. But then she literally just was like, maybe it'd be good. If you you probably should, you know, make your nomination it was like so weak. Alright. K candy. I guess I loved in the recap when they show this. It was like, Tom. I'm nominating you and then they cut to in candy. I guess. It was great. So. Yes, Tom and candy going the block as as we all saw Tom is a victim by vote of three two zero. Tom is gone. And we are down to the final five next up. We are going to see Ricky win the next HOA Joe big one big one for Ricky right away. I was I was calling this. I was like, hey, wow. Ricky has this in the bag of this point? He's won the HOA cheese guaranteed. Final four. He's going to be able to take out candy. And if you take so candy than Taimur, we'll take them to the final two where I think he probably wins Lola will take them to the final two where I think he definitely wins. And if he wins he takes either of them and wins, and I was like, whoa. Look at look at Ricky. He's the he's the favourite here. Not always the case, though, things change in this house. He is going to nominate candy and Dino with candy being his target taymor has a different idea. She doesn't want candy gone. I think I think the tame are still wants to take candy to the final two. I think it is hard to decide what K mart. K mart beat Ewing KMart. Nobody's said KMart yet. That's great hat. I don't understand. I just I came up with out on the spot. I'm a genius brilliant. No. But for real though, I mean, like it's impossible to tell what kmarts motivations are. I feel like I never understand what's going on. And even when she's in the diary room saying like I need to take candy. I don't believe it. I don't trust it like anytime. She says something I'm like, I don't know if you're telling the truth or you're just like playing it up for people. I don't know. And so she's so hard to read. Yeah. It's it's tough. I do I do think that she'd like just the way that she's playing the game. She's constantly talking about how much she hates like candy, and how much she like doesn't think she deserves to be there and so on and so forth. But it's very clear that she's trying to keep candy in the game. And that it could be because she feels like candy will take her. And so even though she doesn't plan on taking candy. She at least wants the possibility that candy would take her. But I do kind of feel like she also would take candy. I'm seeing a lot of nodding from your Brent agree. Yeah. I do I have been convinced to this for about a week. Now when I tweeted out something similar, I am convinced at this point. And I'm trying to think of a 'nother reality show or this happened. Maybe you could say like Kaelin, Derek the final six are. Sorry, big where the candidates six or maybe you'd be really can't a one if they have Jillian and Emmett had made it to the end, I really do think this is a case of her wanting to get to the end with candy and declare herself the winner, no matter. What happens? It's just like I want to get to the end with the person that I want to get to bandwith. And after that just look at the jury and say f- y'all I don't care you give no power over me. I win. Because I chose her. We're here at the end. This is this is the ending my story that I wanted to have an through and for her. She didn't really care about the game. I am just to be clear. I'm not saying or doesn't care about the game. I've just thinking that her vision of winning may potentially involve a little bit of delusion where she's like like she wants to win the game. But if she doesn't win the game. She's like I win as long as the two of us are at the end. So I do feel like there's an element of that here. I don't know if you go nat- or not I think there's probably an element of that. I think more than that though, in my opinion is that I do feel like she thinks she can be candy. I think that if I let me let me put it this way. I think that if in her mind, she could definitely be Lolo. But maybe couldn't be candy and she had the choice between taking candy and having the win of that. She got she and candy both got to the end. But maybe she doesn't win versus ashore thing next to Lolo. I think she would take Lolo there. I think the difference is that she thinks she can beat both of them. And so because she can be both of them wants to have her. She wants to she wants to have the cake and eat it too. Right. I think it's like part of this. I think she's thinking in terms of the the overarching storyline of like her and candy. They started out enemies, and then became friends, and it's like this whole redemption thing, I see that. And I mean, the fact that she thinks she can win against candy. And the fact that she could, you know, create this this narrative of her in candy, we're enemies. And now they've come together to come together to the end like it's like, I can see why she. It might be doing it that for that reason. And also it's good for her image to to patch things up with candy and take her to the end because like she's even talked about candy's got her friends, and because they're candies friends. She's kind of outside of that circle because her in candy and get along. And if she ends up taking candidate the end, well, there, you go you've got this new friendship and people can't really be mad at her anymore. Oh, two things. I wanted to be clear that as I said on Twitter, I am not convinced the taymor cannot beat candy. I think the team are can be candy. So we can talk about that. So I'm not convinced that is a boner move for her to make if she's up going to the final two with her. But on the other hand, I want I did want to say that. That's just my read on the situation. I mean taymor has never said that my version of winning is getting to the end with candy. That's just my read on it. So she she may not be thinking that maybe putting words in her mouth. But I wanna I just wanna be clear on that. That team has never voiced anything other. Than I want to win the game. And I want to get to band with these people, and that would be great if we could should be with these people. She's never really said what I'm trying to say. So I just don't want. I just I just don't want people thinking that. I'm saying that she's she said that when she didn't sense, it makes sense. I think I think you will come with me. Anytime we say something on this podcast people come in like branching didn't say what are you? Talking about words mouth. She's the best player ever come on. I hear you on that one friend. I think that people are really really up on the misinterpretations with this season. It really it brings me back to big brother over the top. It really does with the level of vitriol both in the house and in the fan base at this moment, I'm getting I'm getting threats of violence sent to me and private messages. I had happened. Not. What's the what's going on with that? Why is everyone in the chat thing that poor Taryn? Handle that. Oh, I'll handle that. Okay. Let's going on. I just say the breeding mine notifications in my mentions. It looks like that a majority of black. Big brother Twitter is not a fan of Armstrong. They to that of a tweet that I made where I said, hey, I can't believe I made this connection. I hadn't made connection between tame are saying don't get punched in the throat, and then you know, talking about how Tom is threatening her. I thought that was a funny connection because previously in the season. I talked about how tame our was clearly not threatening anybody in that moment. But people thought that what I was saying was that I thought tame our was actually threatening to punch Lolo in the throat, and they got very mad at me because they thought that I thought that. And and so they said, hey, if we ever meet you in Boston, and you're gonna get punched in throats. God what is wrong with people? They definitely took it the wrong way. I will say that in even if you were saying that even if you were like that threatening. It's like, okay. So then you go, and and you're angry about someone calling saying threatening. So then you go and threaten them. It makes sense everyone like chill out. The like I said emotions are running high. You know, things are think things are getting a little uppity. I obviously do not cosign me. If I meet you in Boston, and I'm gonna punch thrown. Although that one of my trolls is sent that to you just can't. It was it was I thought it might be a sock puppet account a sock. Oh, really, what is the puppet of killer? I don't know. Joe lawrence. No, not Joe. Oh my God. Joy rodriguez. Okay. Joy rodriguez. So we barely knew. I yes, I want. What was I going to say, oh, I can't. I hate it. When this happens. Well, it's on point being things have gotten things have gotten. Okay. It's gonna come back in like, five seconds. So I was going to say, obviously co-sign the punch you in the throat Taryn, Dante mar a lot you say this like in what way like I'm very curious to know, why you think that because I'm used you've talked about how you disagree with me on taymor. But I don't know what you disagree with. Well, I disagree with your assessment that she can be candy number one. You don't think she can't be that? I know we disagree about. I think the candy beats are. And I don't I don't think she can be candy. But I'm open to hearing the opinion. I think what's happening is you're on more than me. And so you recount the game more than me. And you then go over tame our faults more than me. And so it sounds like you're harping on it. Whereas I really don't think you really are to defend you. I really don't think you are harping on her as much as people feel like you are it's just sort of the perception of it. Because again, you're on every day and you're on recaps. And so people here from you all the time whereas Melissa once or twice a week. And so if we were saying the same thing, it wouldn't even have the same sort of megaphone aspect as as your voice carries over the din. So go also a situation where you know, if you were saying the exact same things about Ricky, for example, or like, Joey verb. Sample, and they don't really have many like stands on Twitter. No one would care if like you said it about Ricky fewer over and over being like, Ricky sucks Ricky's the worst. And not that you're saying that about tame our good. I'm just saying even if you said that people would be like, oh, okay. Good assessment. Thank you. And now because it's taymor. They're like, whoa. Whoa. You can't say that about my fav-. So I feel like that's part of it is like you. You've literally picked like the worst possible target for any sort of critique at this point. Because like KMart stands are like the most vocal on Twitter by far. Well, I mean, I guess it was unavoidable because I think they've all played poorly. So I Kim. Our kids. It's like I feel like the people miss the boat. When the when when you could assize Tom Green's game and said, I was over you. He screwed himself. He played badly. And like they don't seem to remember that Tom Tom played eight and much worse game than taymor. Let's be real clear about this. But people never remember that like like, the Melissa the most the most caustic view of this on Twitter is that Terron likes the Tom Green's of the world. He doesn't like the tame Braxton's other world and the NBA underlying read on that is ta Taryn likes the straight white cysts male strategist, Barry acid, garbage Bill is ending. The most candy. He won't shut up about it. I was getting. I appreciate the support. But I don't wanna I don't wanna bore people too much. Support. Anyway, I keep a realty. Well, you know, I keep it real. There. We go. Anyway, candy want taymor wants candy to stay this week. And and yes, I'm happy about that. And so she is she is putting in work to make that happen. She's talking with with Ricky about it. She's kind of talking about like, hey, do we really want Dina in the end would do we really want her to win this season and Ricky's kind of like agreeing with this? He's kind of feeling like, oh, yeah. I might be open to the idea of keeping candy over Dina mean in the meanwhile in meantime, Lolo is refusing to promise either of them a final two spots. She will not tell them who she's gonna take to the final two. They're both getting a little worried about that. So they also talk about potentially taking low low out at if the veto plays out in a certain way. But vetoed is not play out in a certain way. It was apparently a competition and involved hurdles. I don't know if we know this about low low, but she's an Olympic track track athlete. Olympic hurdler wish. She heard she heard heard learn, I'm pretty sure she's heard learn bobsled, fun facts. I was a hurdler really. Where are you? Wow. So good one was hurdler. My my into the only. Track. Yeah. Yup. She does she think people actually Melissa's rights is an American hurdler and bobsledder who specializes in the sixty meter and one hundred meter hurdles three NCAA titles. Yeah. I've seen her. I've seen videos of her laying. It is insane as she just like full allies over those hurdles, I don't know how she does it. I'm interested to see this competition. Surely cannot be what we're imagining. I'm sure it's not. Yeah. Like. Hotly table and tamers Cohen hurdle. Yes. You wouldn't lies. I at least I hope so we should specify it was tame are that said, of course, they'd give her a hurdle competition. We don't know exactly. Yeah. So, but I did tweet out like really hurt. Hurdles, we couldn't do like songwriting competition or like how to manage your millions of dollars that you made from his writing competition. That'd be good one. So low low is going to win this veto. And unfortunately, candy does have a bit of a misstep here when she talks to Lolo. She tells her that she feels like Lolo has a good chance to win. I think what she was trying to do was explain that that, you know, hey, you can beat me in the end. But it did not come off that way. And it went very very poorly. Put to Lolo Lola was very angry about this. They got into a little bit of a fight. Then Lola wins the veto, and she feels very strongly that candy needs to go because she knows that candy's not going to take her to the end because she thinks that candy feels like Lolo can beat her. So she wants DNA out tame ours. Like, yeah, I hear what you're saying. But. You know, candy candy would be good to have remember how we don't like Dina. Remember that part now part? Yeah. That'd be bad to have her as the winner of the season. It's so funny with TAY because you know, all yesterday. And then today she's been like do Tae. Do you care who goes? No. But I really can't. I can't I can't let Dina so you she does care who go. Okay. Does care like everytime. It's questioned get asked. She she's like, I don't care. But and then she waited proceeds to tell you what she does care. So. Yeah, she wants candy is stay I think at this point candystand. I think these looney tunes are going to keep her. I hope so I mean as of right now, I think it's still a little bit up in the air. They haven't actually come together to decide quite yet. But it's being talked about Lolo considered using the veto on DNA to force taymor on the block in order to ensure that candy leaves. The thing that she really hated Tom for considering. To that guy. Force them to make the proprio game of that. You want them to make? It's like moving chess piece here to force them to come block, you that's not a threat people. So Lolo is considering doing that tamer was like, no, I don't think that's a good idea. I would like if I would like if you did not do that her ever. Yes. And convinced Lolo not to do it Lola decides against doing it. Then today, we had some more movement. And it was actually I think some significant movement. We I had DNA talking to Lolo about how hey, you don't realize this, but taymor and candy are so tight they are one hundred percent taking each other. They have made a vow like they are. They are going to take each other to the end you need to know this and Lola was like for real. Is that real what I I wish I'd use the Mito? And so low low starting to feel like a, wow, like Indiana's doing good work. She is like completely fulling the wool over Lola's is she's also, and I think this is very significant over the course of the last few days. Like, I said Ricky was in a great spot. However Lola was starting to think Ricky's to likable. I can't take Ricky. I can't beat Ricky. I need to maybe take taymor. Maybe taymor is my better option. However, this conversation with DNA DNA seemed to fairly convincingly tell low low, hey, you're I don't know why Dina's saying, hey, your best shot is against Ricky by far. You can easily beat Ricky tame, mar she could probably beat. You definitely Ricky is the person and Lillo is like really because I was thinking she was like, no, no, no, no, no. Remember, Tom and Cato. They hate rich. Tom hated Ricky. Tom would definitely vote for you. You know, got you've got all these other votes and Lola was like, okay. Yeah. You're right. So lo-lose starting to feel I think like she would probably want to take Ricky over are. Now, it's looking like Ricky went from good position to not great position to maybe good position again and Dina's looking pretty safe at this point. However, the days not done this is this is the day of ever. Like a live feed up day right here right now, it's it's a battle between these two forces Dina and candy and candy's going to get in there. And she starts telling low about how hey Lolo you can beat me. But I'm still gonna take take either you or Ricky because I know that you are my best. I am I gonna take KMart absolutely not taymor such a jury threat. She can beat me she can beat all of us candy, reinforcing the idea that Maher is hard to beat in the end. I think this really solidifies with Lolo that she probably should not take. Mar I think this was not a good day for taymor. And so- candy does some even better work. She's looking at the memory wall. She's pointing to votes and she starting like Lola's like, you know, I hadn't thought about that. I probably can't be you probably do have a good shot against you. And you know, what else candy, you're really rich. And I'm not, and that's a that's in my favorite too and candies. Like, yeah. Yeah. Isn't it in your favor? And so I I I was I was to the point where. Oh my God. It is candy going to convince a Lolo to take her to the final two. Is this real is this possible? I think it's possible. I don't think it's likely I think she probably takes Ricky. But but candy did a very good job here as opposed to the very bad job. She did the previous night, and so low low is I think a bit up in the air. There's a bit more back and forth. Dina talks to our candy talks to deny talks to Ricki candy talks to Ricki candy makes a deal with Ricky about. Hey, if you break the time my favor, I will take you to the final two. She does make a commitment to Ricky that she will take him to the final two. I'm inclined to maybe believe this hard to tell whether candy would take Tamar or Ricky. She makes a promise to Ricky. And she hasn't really lied to anyone in the house. So it's it's weird to me. She did not make a promise to Lolo in her fate lies in lo-lose, hands almost more. So than it is Ricky's at the moment, so hard to tell exactly, but basically the point is they all got together, and they kind of discussed it, and they're still not exactly a concrete decision that is made but taymor is leaning toward keeping candy. I think Ricky's leaning toward keeping candy. And I think Lolo is at worst kind of in the middle not entirely decided, and I think that points toward a let's stay candy and then candies in a good spot. However, candy did have to make promises like to Ricky that if that got to low low that would not make lo happy if that got the taymor. I think it might not make tame are very happy. So it's I think it's a little tiny. Listen, I don't want to say that candies. Definitely staying yet. But that's where we are right now as you're. Many feet up. How do you feel about all this? I mean, I feel really impressed by it. But it's one of those things where you're right. It's like if everything goes according to plan, and no one tells anyone what conversations were just had then everything's great. But you know, you think most of the time people who I mean, those three are in an alliance together tame, our Lolo and Ricky so you would expect them to talk. But it could be a situation like with Paul and big brother nineteen where he we thought. Oh, it's all going to come crashing around him. Because all these people were supposedly working together are going to talk to each other about what they specifically said individually with Paul and they never did. So it's totally possible that literally one day from now, nobody tells anyone anything, but who knows they might just fill ins, and everyone could say everything and this could end really poorly for candy. I hope not. But I think because I think they can't he did some really nice work. But you know, you never know. So we'll just have to see. Yeah. I'm not sure what's going to happen. But I will say that. I'm very impressed with the work done today. I mean, this look just to be clear, folks. This is the bare minimum of what we expect on big, brother. Like, I mean, like we're praising it like, oh, it was a great day of feeds. But like this is what we did not get at the end of big brother nineteen we did not pleading for their for their faith to do anything to say anything to try to what stay in the game. Give yourself a chance to win people just give up, and that's we can stand. So having said that I'm thrilled that they've decided to do it. But I'm not going to sing their praises. I will say that. I don't buy that candies. Fate has been hurt much by having to make a few promises here. And there I I still think she's in a relatively great position to be clear. I do think that she is favored over taymor. But I do think the taymor can be candy in the end. I know doom in the chess brand you have yet to presented me a scenario where tame our and we're. Andy, we're getting. Read my Twitter. It'll be good. Get us clue yet to present me. I'm very I'm very interested to hear cases. Well, but we're going to talk about jury votes. Just a little bit later. So that's that. Brent you have yet to present to me. It's a narrow wrong voice Brandt. You'll yet. Right. So state of the host right now is it's a free for all. It really is. These people have dropped all pretense of alliance at this point. I do it's really just a matter of who takes who to the end. And here are here are my thoughts, and we'll get you guys your thoughts as well on who each person is going to take. I think tame mar we've talked about I think is probably taking candy. I think that's honestly, one of the more the things I'm more confident about at this point. I think candy as we just talked about I think she takes Ricky. But she may also take tame are. I'm not entirely sure. I really can't. I can't tell exactly, but I think it's one of those two for sure Ricky probably takes taymor or Lolo. I'm not exactly sure. Which one I I lean toward taymor. Because taymor was able to give Ricky promise that she would take him and Lolo did not. And I think that matters to Ricky. And so I think he wants to reward that by taking her to the final two. However, he is being told by people that that Lolo is easier to beat so that might get into his head. But he's saying, oh, I don't care about votes in. No sorry. I don't care about votes in everything. Like that. Like that's not what I him here for. I'm a healer not a hustler or a hero. So that's what Rick is about low low. I think is at this point based on what she heard from Dina and candy. I think that Lolo is pretty locked at this point. She's gonna take Ricky. I think that's who she feels. She can beat the easiest but small chance she could take candy based on that conversation. And I think Dina if she stays would take Lolo for shore based on her conversation with Lolo. So that's that's how I feel or any any disagreements from you to know that sounds probably going to be. Yeah. Sounds about. Right. I mean, it's it's tough because especially with celebrity season. Sometimes it's more about your image than it is about winning the entire thing. So it could be a situation where people are like, okay. What makes me look? It's like what does it better for me to just like stick with alliance? Even if I don't know I can win or is it better for me? And I feel like that was in play last year where it was like, oh, I'm gonna take you because I don't care. It's just about us getting to the end together, you know, that sort of thing. So it's possible that they go with that route. And then some of these are kind of moot. Because it's like they're not really thinking about who they can be. And who can't be just about like, oh, I worked with you. I wanna take you. I wanna look good to everybody by doing. So so yes, and just Trenton the chat, I wasn't listening. You're correct. I was listening. But I missed I like Trenton the chat every single day is just like Taryn, his always, right? Makes me to call you out. Taryn whipping taymor taking I watched want to write everything down tamers taking candy candy's going to take taymor or Ricky Ricky's going to take Lolo or TAY, I think Tae Lolo is going to take. That's the one. I'm not sure about Ricky Dicky based on the conversations today. It was pointed out to her multiple times that Ricky is her best, Tom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then Dina, I actually I think I mean, I guess I should consider. But I really don't think she's staying at this point. So I think I think she I think she would take Lolo based on. I think I would also vote for low low in the end, I think she was being somewhat genuine in her conversations with low low about wanting her to win and. Okay. Well, I think that's why she was giving her the advice of you should take Ricky that you can beat Ricky. I think she's wrong about that. But. But I do think that she she genuinely feels that way. She would take a grudge against them ever since the first week, and when they victim Jonathan so I I think that if she goes out to the jury also they're going to have like a five ten minute break to talk to Dina during the commercials. I don't feel like there's any universe where she votes for low low, but I could be wrong about I think she's at the very least inclined to vote for low. What she what she told Lola was because Lola was like Jonathan is gonna be so mad at me. And she was like I'm going to go out there. I'm going to give him a look like Jonathan come on. So what she cares about him. She hasn't seen him in fifteen years bell. Aussi? Also hasn't seen her boyfriend in five years. So there's some of these it's not called catfish. Should I shouldn't make fun of Dina? I feel. Is that where we are now beginning Dina, oh my God save I'll make fun of here in the game. I don't want to make this whole situation. Oh, oh my God. I just feel bad for doing it. I'm telling you folks, I'm going to get fired one of these days if we're if we're at a point where we can't even make fun of my job. It's thing. Denial you on. So yeah, that's sort of how I see it. Somebody asked it's gone now. I'm sorry. Somebody asked him to chat who taymor would take if candies evicted and if candies evicted, I do think taymor would probably take Ricky. I do think. That's remember that. Yeah. I think that's what would happen there. So that's what we've got there. You guys ready for the stock watch. Yes. Doc, I'm go ahead, perc- perceive governor. All right here, we go. Here we hear it is stock watch open air. We all right. So let's start talking about these people. I we have Ricky who. I was I was looking at this and Ricky has received the highest average rating from me over the course of the entire season. And I and I think one of the highest average ratings of. Yeah, I think the highest average rating of anyone this season of a total. Despite his low performance in last week's stock watch just because he was he was in a pretty good spot. The first week a pretty good spot the second week using bad spot last week, but he survived it. And now he's at genn in a pretty good spot. I mentioned when I recapped his game. I do think that Ricky has played the best conventional game of big brother if you take out the celebrity aspect, and that they can watch everything he's positioned himself. The best had the his move in the in the start of the game where he got the women to flip on Jonathan in the way that he did in building trust with them by snitching and saying, oh, I'm protecting. You guys was one of the better moves or across the entire season. So. There you go that I think it says something about Ricky across the season. But now we have to rate him for this week and his position to win the game, which I think is decently strong here. Brent how do you feel about Ricky? I feel moderately better about Ricky obviously, better than I did a week ago actually going to give him a five. I feel good about his chances about getting to the end. I feel good about his chances of potentially winning at the end. I do think I know I can hear you doom in the chat. There's no scenario. I don't want to your voice again, go scenario where Ricky gonna win the game. I don't I don't think you can be as unequivocal as that or equivocal. I forget whatever the warning. I don't think that it's absolute is that I think the Ricky can win the game. I do think that it is a narrower path than other people specifically some of the women in the house. But I do think there is an avenue for him to do. So and he has done good work this week. He has tried to stay out of the drama. He's let other people sort of spin around a little bit. And there is something to be said about his the way he carries himself like a, you know, he he he he thinks himself. I think Ricki thinks highly of himself, and so I feel like in some ways that can work against him. But in some ways, I think in this case it may work for him in that he comes off a little bit as the adult in the room. And it's a presence that people can respect at least. And so I do feel like his chances of winning at the end are. Okay. But having said that it's no great shakes in the grand scheme of things is most the said last week. We're not grading on a curve. So. Yeah. Five it is. Laura and the chat wanted to know if we could get some detailed statistics from Christina about the Ps question from last week's forum, and Christina responded that unfortunately, there was not anything interesting the P percentage came out. Even no matter how you split it. My god. No don't fall people know, you know. Candy fans are not are not inclined towards peace anymore than tame our fans or anything else. That's everyone loves and hates peas equally. Wow. God. Yeah. It's bad for me. Eight. All right, Melissa. How do you feel about Ricky? He I feel the same way. It's one of those things where like if I'm grading solely based on this season and whether or not he can win and whether and how he's playing against everyone else in the season. I would be like, okay, given give them a seven give him an eight whatever. Because like I think he has a better chance of winning. I think that he. I think he's made less enemies and certain people. I think the fact that he won H O H was critical here. But at the same time, if we're now that I know we're comparing it with like general big brother, he's really not doing that hot. So, but I don't think he's doing poorly at that at the same time. Like, I think he's doing pretty well for what he's doing. So I agree with Brent. And I'm going to give him a five which is an increase from before though. So that was. Sorry about that is factory is true. I also decided to give Ricky a five I thought about a six, but it's just, you know, honestly, if I hadn't listened to him talk today, it might have been a six, but just like when he was talking to candy. He was just like, you know, I'm not just I'm not thinking about who has votes. That's just not important to me. And if if that's true, which I think it either is or it's a weird faint. But like, I think that I think that he has a slam dunk win if he takes Lolo, and I think that tomorrow might be slightly harder to beat. And if he takes team, are that just doesn't make sense to me. I think it's because he feels like he wants to reward mar because she promised him and Lola wouldn't. And I feel like that's just those instincts are just not worthy of a six. So I have to give him a five if it's all if it's all just play acting than he he got me. Play-acting? I think I'm with you. I think I think a universe exists where he doesn't actually care about the votes. It's I mean, I think he cared. I think he wants to win. But I think he also like he needs to do it in his way. Even if it's not the most efficient way that makes us so. Something else to note here is that these numbers for me at least are subject to change based on what happens with the finals. There's still a lot of game to be played. And we will of course, do a postseason roundtable where we give some people their final scores. And there are some people. I think in particular who could dramatically have their score change. I think that Ricky if he wins this game in a certain way could definitely go up to a six I probably wouldn't put him at a seven ever. But something to know he might be able to make it to thing. Like, yeah. Okay. Most people are at six is already by the end of the season. But was we we did get from from Christina that last week was yet another record low. It was lower than even the week before in terms of average score. So something that's going on there. The audience gave Ricky a solid five as well. It's a straight fives Franchi who it's an improvement from last week. Like Ricki Ricki is potentially. I think like the front runner to win the game. And he's got a five. That's what we're working with straight. Right. Yeah. Bob. Let's talk about candy. Let's talk about candy candy who. You know, I think most people are rooting for candy at this point from what I've seen. Including the jury members and like every other former player like everybody's just gotten on the candy train. And I'm just kind of like, hey, guys. I was here already this. My you're the conductor. This is what it's like to just be a STAN dislike. Yeah. Yeah. So candy who has done some good work this week? Also had some mistakes this week and still has kind of a difficult path to the end, I think she does have to survive this week, then she needs to be able to win or have taymor win and actually have tame mar fulfill. What we think she will do which is take candy to the end. And then she does need to win the jury vote, which I think she will. But but Brent is going to make a case for why potentially. She might not. So there's that as well. So I'm I'm feeling pretty good about candy. I I think that my confidence in her jury vote capability supersedes, the less likelihood that she will get to the final two and I'm willing to put her at a five. She is somebody for me that if she ends up winning like for instance, if she has convinced Lolo to take her to the end over Ricky and taymor, then I'm going to bumper right up to a seven. That's that's how much she can change here. If she just wins. Because taymor tags or whatever. Then then maybe maybe five or six is still appropriate. But I still in my opinion, the best celebrity big brother player on the season. Brent how do you feel about candy? I was just thinking when you were like if she actually convinces Lolo to take her to be end over Tae and Ricky I'm going to give her a ten ten Lord. Ten is definitely the ceiling on the season. That it's hard to get there. So I gave her a six last week. And I'm asking myself, did she do better or worse work in terms of advancing her cause of winning big, brother? I think she's done a little bit worse. Actually, she had a couple of chances to win a few competitions. She didn't take them. She has no allies in the end except for seemingly tame our? She may be able to survive this week. So I'm going to give her credit for the good work, but she's done. And she's been able to basically what I think is a required skill in big brother, you need to be able to lie straight to people's faces. When the time comes for it. I mean like you don't have to make it an active part of your game. But when you need to save your, but you need to get in there and live with the best of them. And she's shown an ability in ability to do that. And not just an ability a willingness to do that. Because I think most people have this ability, but some people are just unwilling to do it. And she obviously is I think it's great that somebody who is successful. As candy is willing to go in there, and you know, sacrifice her integrity to play some stupid reality game. I really am very pleased with that because she could easily be like I don't have time for this shit and take her spot as. Fifth place finisher, but she doesn't want that. And so I'm here for that. Oh, I love seeing how into it. She was on the episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think we had to write that. I don't think people in the beginning thought that maybe she didn't care. I don't think that's true at all. I think she did care, but she was very unfamiliar with big brother how it works. And she made a lot of mistakes, and she told people honest truce, which she shouldn't have done early on. And consequently, it was a little bit ostracized for that. Because she wasn't willing to make nice people that she may be needed to make nice too. But by week three which in celebrity big brother time is like eviction number six she was up to speed on the game. And I feel great about her wash. Great. I feel good about her right now. So I think she's done a little little bit less work than she did last week. And so I gave her a six last week. So I'm going to give it a five as well. And I think that's I think that's appropriate praise or candy on celebrity McGruther because she s Taryn points out. She I think she's going to survive I'm gonna put that out there. But at the end she needs to win the final h h. Or have taymor taker and then win so her Pap is probably like twenty five percent at this point. Maybe even less than that. It's not it's probably the hardest before. Yes, melissa. What are your thoughts? I think I agree with you guys to send him in. I think that she's had the most growth Verschueren in terms of game ability since the start of the season, especially considering that she was a last minute addition to the show, and so she didn't really have the opportunity to like really research it and figure out what to do and how to play and she seemed to be the least prepared going in. So I was really impressed with her ability to pick up on the game and do so well. You know since she picked up on it. I I also feel like. I feel like she has the best chance to win. If she gets the, and but getting the end is going to be kind of hard for her. But she's putting in the work and she's doing good work. And the fact that like when she was put on the block like I thought she was dead in the water. I really thought that she was going home unless you won the beat. Oh, so when she didn't win the I was like, oh, she's done. It's over, but she's really putting in good work to stay and to the wait. We're we're all like your. I think she's probably going to stay tomorrow. You know, we're all thinking that. So I'm impressed with her. But they're still the fact that she could be going home tomorrow right away. Like, you know. So I can't give her such a great score. But but I still do feel good about her chances. So I'm going to give her a five as well. All right fives. From us a six from the audience the audience likes. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about Deena Deena dean is an interesting one. Because she I mean, she should be fine. Taking candy out is a no brainer in my opinion for everyone involved. I guess Brent might think Brent might may may think that it's it's better for taymor to keep candy. But personally because I think candy beats tame mar I think it's it's best forte mar that she that she take a candy out here because DNA would be easier to be in the final four. And I think that taymor needs to win in the final four. I I also think she needs to not take candy. So personally, I feel like it's best for everyone to get rid of candy. But at the very least it's best for two out of the three people who are in charge of the votes to take candy out over DNA, but she may be leaving here. And that's that's not great. That said if she does stay if she doesn't just say like, she should she has a very real like one enforced shot at winning this thing. I think that she. Wins against anybody left. If candy leaves and all she needs to do is win that final four H O H. We saw Marissa who had not really won anything up until the final competition. Win the final competition and win the game. We could very very easily see that happen. I know it's hard to think about because she's just not really been a huge part of the show thus far. But it's a very very real possibility. And it's not one that I think should be ignored. So an interesting to rate here. Go ahead. Can I just ask really quickly? What was the final show age last year? Do we remember? I mean, I'm sure we remember. But I don't remember. I think it was questions you, I know his questions, I know, I know it wasn't hurdles for someone with text messaging or the tweeting or something I was twenty maybe the check and tell us. James saying signed a brand pedia here in this competition. Julia read tweets from victim houseguests over their time in the house. One of the tweets will be an incorrect statement, the competing houseguests must figure out who tweeted the incri incorrect statement each time the houseguests Gus correctly. They will get a point most, certainly. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Trivial thing where they read the texting where they were like James, you were this much Ma blonde like saying insults. When was that? What this is this. She was reading we'll say tweets. Sorry. Yeah. But it was them reading it out loud. Like, it was they had videos them being like as they like read the nose trivia. So basically, it was Texas. You're correct, Melissa. It's text messages. But it's like James, you're the third H O H, and you you were also a victim by six to one votes or insults to each other. So I did it. Or or maybe of you know, Senator to question thing. I don't know what I'm saying remembering, oh, no the podcast one was was the one where rack yes. Right now, David Sanchez. Fattening point to point is it is some form of a trivia, which is you know, I basically as long as you can be do like, basic, a basic memory you. It's mostly crapshoot. He you might have a little bit of of an advantage unless you're Kevin Martin in which case, you're always going to win these. But most other people are going to be pretty even going into question competitions studying does matter like if you don't study at all then you're probably not going to win. But if you if you have any level of intelligence than you have a pretty decent shot of taking these home because most of the time if you don't have the question, you can just guess and just guessing is fine. So I say in last year, it was a three way tie with Marissa Ross and someone else I think it was. That's that's the other thing. The questions can be so easy that everybody gets all of the questions. Right. And then it comes down to the tiebreaker. Which is like wow horribly breakers. Are the dumbest thing world. They should not be. Math problems. Like, I'm sorry. That's so stupid. It's not testing any knowledge of the game. Especially because it's like how many seconds does it. Did it take to do this competition? Like, I'm sorry. I can't translates seconds two minutes of minutes. Two seconds to hours. Like, I I couldn't do that in my head. And they don't give them nearly enough time to like write out the mass like started. All right. Let's throw interesting point for me as I think that they're tiebreakers need to be reworked. It's it's all about being a crapshoot, and that's the thing. And that's what we talk the crap shoot. You should be earning. This not guessing we talked about with Kevin Martin how he has less of an advantage the easier the questions are because then Dimitri will be able to get all the questions right to and we'll come down to a tiebreaker. That's exactly what happened last season with three people all getting the same score DNA has also not been bad in the question competitions, thus far. So just don't sleep on Dina if she survives this week. She has a very real shot at winning this thing. I don't want people to be taken off guard. We've been talking about it all season long. I know. But I think people have started to be like no way first of all later say something really quick Evert on the Chad Hussein they're saying that's not hard math. Melissa you try doing it on a live TV show. Okay. You try doing it when you're under pressure? And if you don't get this this exact question, right in these are also think about how long did it take me. How long was this thing? Then you have to write it down the whiteboard. They don't care if I can unlimit. Time. I saw that as well. But online TV in front of everyone in the mid like, I'm trying to figure it out. This is the winning question come on as everybody know, they they're like, oh, Melissa come on. You don't know. What sixty is. It's like, I know what it is. And I go to mostly. You're not gonna sit there on live TV and properly solve a math equation in my head. When I can't even write it down. Most Madge she's gotten all season, right? People are like no list on coming. With. Ernie's you'll have. So listen, how do you feel Dina? I feel I feel good about Dina. Well, I feel less good about Dina than I did before. Because before I felt like it was like guaranteed. Someone was going to take her to the end because they all thought Dina can't win this. I I'm gonna take her. And then I don't really see that this time if anything I see her going home. So I don't feel comfortable giving her the same scores. I did last time. But I don't think she's done that much worse than she did last week. I just think it's circumstances. So I'm going to give her a four. I'm going to cosign that as well. I'm going to give her a four I gave her a five last week. And I think that hurts. I think her circumstances are worse this week. And I. I mean, she has done good work in that. She went to Lolo and said some things and pointed out the obvious alliance between taymor and candy. But on the other hand, she's allowed candy to hoodwink Lolo and anybody else seemingly, and maybe that's a harsh diamond of her because you're like, well, Brent she doesn't know that that's happening. But on the other hand, she should be on them like a hawk this is her life in the balance here, and for her not to be aware that there might be something like that the game is a foot is a bit of a problem for me. So I think she's gone here at five and even been showing has a one in four chance of getting to the end. So I have to give her a four, and that's generous. Yes, I was hovering here between three hovering. It's hard because I do think she put in some decent work today. It's just that she got outworked by candy. And if she succeeded in this worksheet being a not terrible position. But she's also in a spot where she needs to win. Nobody will take her. But she's also in a spot where she definitely wins. If she gets to the end, so it's hard going back and forth. But I did go with a four. As did the audience is the close one they almost they almost gave her a five, but they went with four. All right. Let's move onto low low. We were all pretty low on low low last week. What did I assume? I. Straight twos. And a one from Brent. So how do we feel about Lolo? Now, I've got to say I am higher on lo-lose chances than I was last week. I think that some things have changed one her magic Instagram posts. Yeah. She tweeted out to Joey Lawrence. Hey, sorry about all the things that happened Joey responded with a screen shot on Instagram where he said, this means so much to me. I'm so happy that you send this to me. I'm wishing you look. And then what I can only imagine is if you follow the Twitter saga or from what I talked about this morning on the live speed update. Her social media manager trying to pretend that she's her Lolo and responding to to Joey as though she were Lolo and saying, wow, thanks for the kind words. I know we had some heated moments in the house. But we know what that's like thank you so much. You know, I really I love you Joey. Social media manager is an impostor. Yeah. There was a bad point Melissa wear because I I feel like well, we don't know who's tweeting it, but now we definitely know who's posting it because you wouldn't be able to respond to his message. Right. And she so she also has other tweets she's directed finish on she directed. So Tom disingenuous she thinks. Should I have kicked Tom out? I don't know you're on after him now regretted is it weird that I'm going into my it's like is it weird that I wanted Tom to stay guys. Let me say this that I think the Chad is asking, you know, are they really that dumb that they would believe this. Okay. Here's the thing. I don't think they are that dumb. But if they are that dumb. They will be corrected when they get to the finale say look that wasn't her like dude that was not her come on. So we'll say that. I think I think I think Johnson. The Instagram post, obviously was definitely not her. But the Twitter posts, you can still, you know, they might be her because she can me on it though. Like, if was tweet different house wondering that like do they clarify whether it's tweeted by south how you should do that. Because that. That. Yes. Because otherwise any eating stuff. I mean think about it. If someone is running their account, they say like a family members writing their account. We've had people have family members run their accounts, and like go off on people and get like really into the fray of everyone arguing and like if you were to think like, hey, wait is that so in so tweeting from inside the house, you'd get confused even though you know, probably is not them. So I think that they really should clarify like, hey, this is coming from inside the big brother house rather than just like who knows what tweet comes from them. This is celebrity big brother. This right here is showing why we would need in the night that because. Tweets out there, you could absolutely higher social media person to beat to go on there. And go to each jury member individually and be like, hey, you played a great game. It's so tough for us in here. Like, totally appeal to every emotion. I mean, maybe that's part of the game. Maybe that's maybe that's what this is. Now is just like higher your social people under one hundred percent. If things stay the same. If going into next season, the celebrities should hire a good PR person to run their social media is to run their Twitter account. And then that PR person can read the exit interviews and get a sense of what people are upset about and tweet very specific messages that you could never have thought of because you you don't know what they're thinking to address all of their concerns and make them feel good about you. And then you just need to pretend that you did those things if they're like, hey, I really appreciate it your social media post. Your Twitter posts. Oh, thank you. I I really I felt it really represents how I feel about everything. I'm telling you this. It's a real strategy that people should you'll I absolutely think it's a real strategy. I think that they should be doing that. I mean, clearly, it's it's it's by the book like you're fine doing it. No one seemed to have any issue Lillo doing this. So and it makes logo look really good. I mean, if you sit there and read or tweets, and you're like, wow, this is what she's really thinking in the house. It's so poignant, it's so kind it's like, you know, I would be inclined to vote for someone if they reached out to me while they were still in the house being like, hey, I'm sorry. It had to end this way. You're awesome. I think you're amazing, blah, blah, blah. I'd be like, okay. Yeah. All right. I like this person now. And yeah, I mean, it's a good strategy. It's brilliant. I will I will say I am inclined to believe that the Twitter posts are coming from Lolo. I think that the Instagram thing was probably just a one time thing. So I do think that Lolo is is doing something at the very least. If you can't do the publicist thing. You should be doing what Lolo. She's either doing the publicist thing, which is genius. Or she's doing this, which is still a good idea, which is used social media to advocate for yourself with the jury in a way that the houseguests can't possibly see and that is going to be very effective. And I do think that Joey is probably going to be a vote for Lolo heading into the finale unless maybe she's against Dina or can be. But I do think that Jewish kind of locked Joey in as a vote from what from what it looks like based on what he was saying on his social media. And that makes a big difference when it comes to her chances in the game, not to mention the other post that she's made that might help her a little bit. Go ahead. No good, Melissa, Melissa. I say that like, I honestly if Lewin's this. I would absolutely chock it up to good Jerry management. I mean, I think she's doing a really good job, especially like, okay? Even with the Tom addiction. When Tom is like heading out the door. And she's like, oh, you know, good job, you know, blah, blah, blah. And even when she put him on the block and was saying, you're just a really good competitor have to get you out. If I was Tom I'd be like, I respect I respect her. She's doing a good job. And then you look over at someone like K, mar or or even Natalie who only likes shook his hand wouldn't give him a hug when everyone else was giving him a hug, it's like the those kinds of things are just bad. Those are bad. I mean, you you can't do that sort of thing. But Lolo like shockingly because she's the person you'd least expect to do. Good jury management is doing great jury management right now, and whether that's her or her and a PR person like so be it. This you doing your job? I will say Deborah in a chat. Did posted in the chat that Jonathan Bennett has tweeted a response to someone telling them not to believe, it's Lolo. I'm guessing that's in regard to the Instagram post, but it could be in regards to the Twitter as well. Like, I said Jonathan I said this about five minutes ago rewind the tape. Jonathan is a busy body. He will make sure that people know that that is not Lolo we've talking, and here's the thing if if it has been low on Twitter this whole time, then her social media person really screwed up right doing the instrument thing, which really put some castlemed doubt on the other messages anything they should come out and clarify like if that's the case. It was only the Instagram message. Then they clown. Clarify say, hey, just as an FYI. I that Instagram thing was me. I am running her Instagram. But every tweet is Lolo that would help Taryn and mostly you both have not given a score. Yes. So so I do think that Lola's chances in the jury have gone up since the last week that we talked. She's also behaved a little bit better in the house. Which is also plus there, I think that you know, she won the Speedo. She's a guaranteed spot. A she has a guaranteed spot in the final four. And I do think that it's you know, I don't think many people are taking her to the final two. That's definitely a detriment and of the people that would take her to the final two, I think that she probably can't beat them. So that's not great either. I think that if she wins. She probably takes Ricky, which means you probably loses. So it's actually even though I think her chances have gone up since last time, I think that getting to the end against taymor, which I think is her best shot is looking less and less likely given that she seems to have switched onto Ricky. But she's so fickle sometimes that she may switch back to tomorrow eventually so I just hovering between two and a three here. And I I'm going to go I'm going to go with a three just because I think I do think your chances are better and juries can be unpredictable. So I'm going to go with a three brand twenty. I really want to give her a one again just for shits and giggles, but I'm going to call it as I see him. I'm going to give her a two I think that these tweets actually might be more harmful than good. If people think that everything is fake. So I'm not inclined to believe that it's necessary. Even a good thing. I'm not even including to be sure that she's actually the one doing it might just be some do-gooder friend of hers who's decided to try to help her out and thinks her chances might be in the tank and things. Okay. What can I do here too? Push push you're up a little bit. So overall, I still think that she is the least likely person of the final five to win. I think that she has made. Insurmountable damage to her game to the point where it would be very surprising to me if she actually won the game. She has been nicer of late, which is why I'm going to increase your score to a two. But I still don't think that that's basically it's too little too late for me. And I also don't think it's a good look on her that over the past twenty four hour. She's been talking about who needs the money the most. I don't think juries like to hear stuff like that. But who needs the money if she tries to make it about that? I think the jury is just gonna slap back in her and our snapback in her, and they might want to slap her to and say, look, we don't we? We're looking at who who played the best game. We're not looking for who needs it the most. So not a good look on her. And I don't think you can go any higher than a to Taryn. I am shocked. Yeah. It will. And she doesn't like it too. If you bring up her rental properties, or if you bring up her nice car. Hey, the only reason I have a nice car is because Jaguar and the Porsche, they sponsor me. So that's the only reason I have a super nice car and those properties they're not worth much just like a couple of hundred thousand. So it's like all right. Jill. So so how do you before most talks? I can't he was really into knows what no one situation she should not have even walked into that earlier today about trying to talk to low low about what she may. Or may not have if you tell Lolo that she has votes. She's going to be mad at you. Because she thinks she can you're not gonna take it to the end in that you're trying to make her look bad on the other hand if she said to lo-lose face bitch. I don't think you have one vote on the jury Lola would've taken offense to that too. So just devoid the subject altogether. Just all you need to say is look I wanna take you to the end, and you can beat me like just talk about yourself, and what you're going to be the other person. And that's good big brother anyway moving on. Yeah. I I agree with everything you guys were saying, but I do think that she's doing better this week than she was last week last week. I was like there is absolutely no chance she's gonna win. She's doing so poorly in terms of relationship building, and she's just causing problems. But now, I feel I mean, honestly, I thought she was going. I thought she was going to be leaving pretty soon, but she's been winning so much. I'm very impressed. So, yeah, I'm going to give her I'm going to give her wanted to give your last time a two three car rights, and I will say something else that should be pointed out is that I do think the episode last night hurt her chances. I mentioned this this morning that. Shortly after the episode. We saw Kato liking an anti Lillo tweet Jonathan has been liking more anti Lolo tweets since then it really I I think increased the volume of anti Lolo tweets because it was a kind of anti Lolo episode. And so it makes it more likely for them to like, those kinds of tweets and for them to feel that way themselves if they're watching the episode, so could you know, we're reading into a lot in terms of these likes. But from any any zeppelin's, we have understanding of the jurors that was definitely not great for her. But the audience agrees with Melissa and myself the audience gave Lolo a three. So gone up and up from last time. Excellence. Finally, let's talk about tamer. Willing to bet Brent is the highest on Mars chances. So Brent let's start with you. Yeah. I'm going to give her a six, and I know that might be high praise because you're like we'll bring where where you're coming from on this first of all I'm just going to willing to plant life flag in the sand and go I believe in her. I think that she has a great chance to win. I think that there may be more than one person at the end who's willing to take her? I think I still think the Ricky will take taymor to the end. And I also think that candy will take taymor, although that's a harder road for obviously to win. And obviously tamer wind. She's gonna take yourself. And I don't think that it's beyond the possibility that Lola might take taymor. I don't think it's likely, but I think it's within the cards. So she has a relatively great chance of making it and the veto has not was not used today. So she's definitely saved for this round. So given that in the fact that other people at the end, I trust her ability the most to win this kind of a competition. Let's be clear Taylor has won three competitions. And she's not somebody who. Who I think is she's not just going to lay down. She's obviously going to try to win. She has been thinking about big brother for a while. She wants it. I think if she and here's the thing if she gets to the end, which I think she has a great chance of doing. I think that you cannot discount the possibility that she's going to come off as the realist of the people who were there. She's the most authentic Tae mar that there is I think that other people may get tripped up trying to say things that they think the jury must might wanna hear. And I think that maybe through the game. They might have been tripped up by saying things that the jury might or might not want it to hear. But taymor has always been true to herself whether or not you liked her dancing as Tom walked out the door, which I'm sure Thomas heard a lot about. But at the end of the day, he knows that. That's her. It's I I think here's the thing. I'm biased on her. Because I do think there's a big part of taymor that plays as I would if I was in the house because I think. Would let people have it. And at the end, I would hope that they realize you know, what? At least I wasn't bullshitting. You like you knew I was like Sandra in survivor, like at least, you know, what you're getting with me. So I think like Sandra is a good comparison for Sandra, Sandra. Obviously as a better at massaging what what she needs to say to people. But on the other hand, I feel like that's our biggest strength is that she comes off as truly authentic so combined with her ability to win combined with her likelihood of being taken to the final two and combined with the fact that I think she can beat anybody on the board including candy, which I can talk about before he get my score. I think that if she gets the end with candy as I said into on Twitter that she's going to get the votes of the people in the bedroom. She's going to get Ricky she going gonna get Natalie. She's gonna get low who by default would be on the jury if she's at the final two with candy. So that's three votes showing needs five to win. I think she's definitely going to lose. Tom and Kato as votes at the end, and maybe even Dina as well who would vote for candy. So then it comes down to Jonathan and Joey and Ryan, and I think that maybe you think I'm crazy. Maybe you see. Well, Brent he tweeted out this or we responded this or you like this. He said of Tanno Ricky were in the walkaway, he wouldn't even vote. I know, but that's also a little bit of Jonathan like being messy like when I tweeted out earlier today that I like people were coming at you on Twitter, and I'm like my supposed to be feel sorry for that bitch. I don't like I mean, I'm just like he's playing in the moment. I really don't think that that. He would think that if taymor got to the end. So I think that she can get two of those three votes. In fact, I think she can get all three of those votes. I think she can get Jonathan's vote because she can be a look I'm a fan of this game. Jonathan is a fan of this game. I think he will respect her for that. And so, yeah, I think she's the most likely person to win. So I give. Her six. All right, Melissa. What do you think about him on? So I want I'm inclined to give her a worse score than I did last week because of the way she's upset people since then I felt like her her act at the on. The double eviction was not great jury management. But she won a bunch of competitions. And I feel like I'm impressed with the fact that she won. And I could see her winning the final H O H or I could see her winning. I just feel like I see her winning those types of competitions. And I could absolutely see her doing that. However, I don't know if she would get the jury votes. I mean, she could it just depends. How people are feeling. It depends. How her speech speech goes? I feel like it's up in the air. So even though I'm in climbed to give her a worse score. I feel like she has a chance to get to the end. And I feel like that's critical at this point. So. Before you gave her a score. I wanted to ask you this. So if taymor gets to the end and she brings candy. Okay. She wins the final issue age. And she brings candy that'd be four comments for zero wins for candy. I still don't I don't think there's anywhere. We're Jonathan votes for candy over over taymor under the circumstances. I don't think so at all I think Jonathan votes for candy. Okay. I think that I think here's the thing is I also think that this is celebrity big brother, and I feel like they're going to be like we wanna reward the person who accurately represents our season or whatever. And they want the season to not be like marred by the like, you know, weird tension and the meanness, quote, unquote, and I could see them being like candies been so nice and kind the whole time, we should you know, reward that. And clearly she like play. She must have done something right to get there. And I feel like that's what they're all going to think about when they go to go. And I don't know if they're going to be like. Okay. Let's see who won the comms. They also might even be like candy didn't even need to win a single cop. And look at her. She's in the end, it was all social like, I just I don't see Jonathan voting for taymor and under any circumstance. And I mean, unless it's low entail Mars, something maybe, but I I just feel like candy has the votes if it's same in candy. I think candy has the votes. So what is your score here? My score is. A four again. All right. Yeah. I've got to say I Br Brent could be right, right. Juries are. Unpredictable. Anything could happen. You know where Jonathan decides out of nowhere? He wants taymor to win based on what I've seen. It's it's Jonathan is talked about how he doesn't. He does not want to vote for taymor. He's so much doesn't want to vote for Tamera. He'd walk off the stage, which is obviously an exaggeration. But definitely shows an inclination. He's also liked pro candy tweets when Tom said, hey, I don't want to I want. I turns out I'm rooting for candy. Jonathan re tweeted like go, Tom. And so I feel like there's a lot of plus in the alumni there's a lot of like pro candy talk. Jonathan hangs out with the alumni a lot. I think that that's a good representation of the the crowd. He's hanging around. So I do think that there's a lot of things that point toward Jonathan wanting canned. Over taymor. I think that Ryan goes with Jonathan I think the Joey probably also goes along with them in this particular case. And then there's also something else to consider which is that if tame our wins and takes candy. I don't think that Ricky Lolo and Natalie are locked votes either. I think that at least one or more of them are really pissed at mar for lying to them and doing what she said, she she absolutely promised. You never would in taking candy over them. I think that Lola would be pissed. I think that Ricky in particular would be really pissed I think that there's a very good chance that Ricky would vote for candy over taymor. If taymor ends up taking candy to the end. And I think that's something else that we need to consider especially since that's the more likely scenario where they're both in the final two. So. Like, I said, I I'm not willing to completely count it out. But I do think that it's very unlikely based on everything that that I'm seeing with taymor. Yeah. I also think the fact that it's like an unsecured jury has an impact on it. Because I think that if it was the question jury people would be more inclined to vote for taymor. I think I think it's part of like hearing the fans talk afterwards. And hearing like, oh, you know, she said this mean thing about you. And I think that also hurts Lolo and Natalie as well clear, I think KMart needs to earn this vote. I think going in there probably going to be leaning towards voting for candy. But if she gets up there and says, look, I won four competitions. I brought myself to the yeah, I played my ass off this bitch over here didn't do shit till the end barely saved yourself because I decided to bring her to the end she wouldn't be here. If it wasn't for me, if she gets up there, she she needs to give a speech like that. Like, yeah. I earned in give me the damn money. Which is what I wanted people to always do. I mean, someone actually did that on some. -ality show, and then they didn't win. So I feel like a winning strategy. Maybe not that I would vote for that person. I think that if she goes up there and does a speech like that where it's like I brought candy here. Candy wouldn't be here. If it wasn't for me like, Bob, blah, and that she won this, and that XYZ competitions. Like, I think that she has a good chance of winning. I think that I think I I'm getting frustrated because in the chat everyone's like tearing a Melissa. How can you say that can't that t- mar didn't play a good game? And that she shouldn't win. And that it's a negative for the season. If she won like, we never said that we're seeing what the jury might think we're seeing that. We're basing our are not like our ideas are based off of what they're saying on social media what they've said in the house their views on what people have been saying about them what the fans are saying to them like I've seen comments to Tom being like don't ever vote for tame our or Lolo because they were so mean to you like that's kind of kind of. Thing that will influence especially who's trying to make the fans happy by on these types of shows. I think that's part of it. But I also think there's a part of them that might be wanting to be like, you know, what? But by voting for her I can own it like it becomes like they're not in control anymore. I'm I'm showing that I'm the bigger person by willing to reward them. I also like here's the thing. Bill hall in the chat points out like that's not going to be tamer speech. And I'm like what you're probably right. I I don't I don't think that's going to be her speech. I want. Want that to be if she gave it that it would work? Also, I think candy will have a really good speech. I think candy's going to be really good in the final two, especially with a warm. Welcome from the Jerry. They're not going to be very hostile toward candy, which is going to give her an opening. All right. Well, let's just hope that taymor gets to the end with anybody. But candy that way, I don't have to lose this argument. I say just just offend you that I will say like if you look at the past seasons, even like when Josh one on nineteen tyrannous, usually right when it comes to parsing through what the jury has said, but they're happened since of prizes that we're just like what the F word evac come from. So you never know what these people, and it only takes I think it's only gonna take a couple of boats flip flip a result. Here. We all remember big brother Canada four where we thought we were reading material and not reading, Jerry. It sounds. So she kind of made it impossible. Like, I think they would've voted for her. But she kind of made it Kelsey. We're about winning won't go get certainly they changed. They wanted to vote for her. But she she was like laying in up there, and he has so I think I think that team ours. Best shot was low low winning and taking taymor. I think that's potentially off the table. Now. I think now her best shot is probably Ricky winning and taking tame are and then against Ricky. She needs to hope that she has the votes as Jonathan said if it's Ricky versus Tomar, then he doesn't know what he would do. That's where I could see Jonathan easily siding with taymor. If he sides with Tamar than Taimur has shot, even then not exactly sure. Shadow wants us to address the first incurs. Okay. People really trying patients like this is like this is so dumb. This is like everything in the world. That's never happened. And it's a thing until it happens. And then you're like, oh, well that was obviously easy like white N that happened before like, it's just a fluke of circumstances that the person who is I in has never won big, brother. Obviously if I was a contestant on big, brother. I would make an effort not to be the first one in just because I don't wanna hear the shit from the vans. But that doesn't mean I really believe in that bullshit hammering am I remembering wrong that you were kind of all aboard the Tyler can't win because he won the have. I was re tweeting that but that's that was unclear. A different town occurs. That was that was the point in time. Right. Oh, really got off the train. Yeah. But no there, you're right. There's a great ex- K CD comic about this where they go through every single presidency and with every single one, it's you know, this has never happened until this president was elected. This has never happened. And they go all the way through all of the president's. It's pretty fun. So all right anyway. I'm gonna give taymor of four as well. I think that's I think that because she is likely to be there and juries are unpredictable. She's got a little bit of that magic going for her. I think if Ricky takes her she's got a little bit of a shot, I was tempted to give her a three, but I did feel like Lolo deserve to be a level lower than her. So I went with a four and the audience agrees with Melissa and myself once again, and they gave her a four, and that's right. That's that's the stock watch right? All right. So now, you guys are going to send your your picks your final buying and selling decisions to Alexandra. I'm going to go over some of these these bonus questions and before you do just to be clear. The winner of the stock watchers the person who has the most shares of the winning contestant corrects. And if there's a tie for shares between more than one of us, then we actually never addressed this. But I'm thinking that should be broken on the value of your portfolio like yeah. At the end, okay. 'cause are. Yeah. How about how much cash on hand? Right. Yeah. Your portfolio would technically be the same probably because every everything else would bankrupt except for like tamer wins. Yeah, I'm trying to get you money. Leftover though like I'd have three dollars left over you'd have five dollars. And then you would win because you have more cash on what we'd probably do is who who accumulated the most amount of profit over the course of the season or something along we'll figure something out online money. Melissa would probably not win talk. I saw that. How many people I have right now. And I was like where did they all go? Everybody. Could also do stock and run our we'll we'll discuss a tiebreaker. Like a rob bottle that Tom green stops? Yeah. That was that was not a great move. So really three people at. Most is better. All in on, Tom. I don't even know lost a lot. We lost a lot. I do want to say last night brought up an image that I saw of of the mooch who had signed like, I swear. It was preplanned twist is. All the image was real it came from Collette from the the big brother gossip podcasts onto give them a shout out for that image and story. They was her sister. Who went and got the thing. So this is a point in time where Melissa and I are going to be deciding what we want to do. And we're intentionally not going to be looking at Taryn so chat. Yes. We're not paying attention to him for the most part. Okay. Is there deal? Why do they hate us so much time there like tearing them in a Muslim? Brent look so uninteresting what say like, wow rank game that they're not helping people are very critical of what you're doing when they can see you on the screen all the time. That's the I don't like this. I want to go back to Google hangout. Where I mean my nose when I'm not on screen. Man. So Mandy these results are slow to load here. Let's let's get this going. I will say this was a record low in terms of the season. At least in terms of responses for the form of people. Really sweating. Yes. This week last week we had the highest amount all season. And then this week. We've hit the lowest amount all season. I think that people are really excited about the craziness in Tom's h and people have started to lose interest a little bit. We also once we get to that question. I'll let you know about how low people have raided the season or this week at least when this loads endlessly circling. Taryn tap dance. So every. Take some questions from the chat. People ask Karen. How much muscle? He's gained in the past year. Let me know if you have any questions in the chat, we'll do a quick little question off here. I'm sure there are other other stuff that that we were here we final. Almost never mind. It's not there. I was just kidding. It's not just. Why does the LLC hate the chats? Timothy. We love to chat you guys just think attack usually nice to us. But today they've been. So mean, the child is like stream of consciousness, like whatever you guys think in EPA top of your head that you normally wouldn't necessarily say in real life. You just like put it in the chat because you're like, oh, well, I thought of this. So I might as well put it in the chat and everybody will think is funny, or shady or whatever. Like, that's why it's coming off a stream of consciousness and more. Like, you know, knock it off. Someone said what's your secret Taryn, listen to the Taryn show with Mike the candy the personal trainer, by the way? Can you put the stock watch prices again or just tell me what they are because they disappeared from the screen. You will you. Him up right there. Let's see what else have we here. No. There's a problem looting your results. I can see that one say I'm sorry, guys. I should not have reloaded the page to lift the late answers in. Who is who in the celeb- BB house eats, golden gram cereal? I don't know that answer. I think Matt's not getting there. Q much money. I feel like it was easier. When I could only pick one person or something. Now, I feel like I have too many people that are too much money to get rid of spend. It all spend it all. Polarizing about a Tom green interview. Can we get a Tom green interview? There have been some people reaching out to him on Twitter that I've seen. That's always helpful. If you if you Titian people if you say, hey, look, there's a podcast you can do this. But so far he has not responded to any of those. So obviously, we would love to interview on any of these people. But, but if you want to Tom green interview, don't harass him. But just let them know this podcast exists and see if he's interested. Sorry. I'd like literally just interrupting like thoughts that pop into my head about what I'm doing right now. And I feel like there's no point meet picking any day marble that I have a feeling great now Brent is like writing down like twenty by twenty March dot really feels like oh, I'm not going to buy any taymor. Right. You don't need a Zimba. You don't need to buy any time are so yeah, I see what you're doing. They're all I'm saying is I already how. Oh, think that you're you're going to win on tamer? Some mine games happening right now God, this is hard. I honestly I saved a lot of money last time because I was like I'll know a lot more next time. Now, Billy, I know less. Stopwatch. I'm just so bad at it. Will there be a stock watch for for the candidates seven? Yes. And it will be fun. Often this is turning into I work. How question guest. I train four days a week. Let's see. Yes, we covered with a Canada didn't mean through weekend. All right. I'm really starting to just run out of things here. Opening up the survey on my phone to see if that works, and we're gonna see how that analyze here we go. All right. I've got my phone. Thank you. Okay. So let's talk about some of these bonus questions. I we have the question of how would you rate the episodes of big brother this week? And we got an answer of about four point six down from last week. It's not not looking great for the episodes. But yeah, people people not really enjoying the season this week. At least the episodes last time had a five point six this week a four point six down a full point. They we also asked how would you rate the feeds this week? And this one surprised me actually, very very high drop here. Last week. The feeds were six point three this week the feeds a three three out of ten people did not like the feeds this week. So really really dropped in enjoyment there. How would this week of big brother overall a four point one compared to a six point three eight last time? This is this is a record low in turn. Terms of enjoyment for the season even on big brother twenty when we had like five weeks of like, you know, post climax of the season. It was still up in the eight this season down to a four point one overall. Not great. I asked you to rank your favorite player, your play favorite players from least favorite or most favorite to least favorite. And I was very curious to see what this would look like here. There's only five people left. So who is going to be the favourite has any guesses. No, I realized I just made a map there, actually. Candy candy is the the massive favorite here. Big big big favourite for candy. She got eighty percent of the first rankings eighty percent everyone. Loves candy, followed by taymor, pretty dramatically behind the actually sorry. No, not follow tamer had the second. Most first place finishes Dina actually came in second. Dina was the second most favorite player that surprising me. Really do. You know was the second most popular I think they're taymor gets or you said Deena was second most popular players ever. Yeah. I think it's markets for the number one. She danced on Thomas gray, which I know she wasn't doing that some people because she wasn't doing that. Brent? But that's what it came off as her doing, and she kind of gets lumped into that whole bedroom and some of the meanness that's happened over there. Although to be fair, I feel like that of the three of them Natalie even Marie Lolo taymor taymor has contributed the least to that. But she's also had a few zingers here. And there that people might remember. Yes. Natalie, by the way, in exit interviews is talking about how she's finally found out that Tom is well liked and that he feels like he was she said he feels like he was bullied, and so she she kind of was like, well, let me just say that if a straight white rich man can feel like he was bullied by three women, and I think we're winning and then she was like. Just just just kidding bully. The definition of bullying is feeling if making someone feel unsafe so Tom if I made you feel unsafe. I am sorry felt a little bit. Like a non apology to me a total on an apology. Anything that's just to make you feel bad. When you bring up when you start with the definition of anything, you're saying. So so yes, Dina was second candy had an average had had a number of four point six is candies. Number Dino down at a three points three point two. And then taymor wasn't third. Just barely beating Ricky with a two point seven Ricky with a two point four and then low low in last place with a one point nine low, not exactly a fan favourite. I asked also who is getting your vote for America's favorite very curious about this one. Should is shocking answer. Now, I'm getting. Seventy three percent of people said they're voting for Tom to get America's favorite player. All right. Actually, I will say like that makes a lot of sense because I finally got my mom's finally caught up on the show. So she was able to give me the casual a casual opinion of what's going on. She was like live texting me while she was watching the double eviction. And she was like I before that. She's like, Tom one. Everything's great. He's h h this is so awesome. And then it was like, oh my God jobs on the blog. He's gonna go home. This is so awful. She's like, this is the worst. I don't wanna watch the show anymore. And so basically, she's like, and then she told me to tell everyone to vote for Tom green for her America's favorite momma. Okay. Well, I'll do that to vote for taymor. Seriously. She's given us the most entertainment like, I know Thomas giving us entertainment, but I really feel like taymor has given us like the most entertaining. He is not a fan. I know I'm just gonna say. Apper Makhachkala perspective. It's possible. That by being who knows if people actually follow what my mom is saying. But like just from what I know. I don't I don't think I'm sure he appreciates your mom's help. But I don't think he needs any help. I think he's going to win each. That like the my mom's casual perspective, and like from like only watching the television show is that she really loved Tom and Kato together. She thought they were gray. And then she likes candy. But it was really sad for her. When Tom left all the nice people. Yeah. All the nice people. Yes. If I if I had to put my money on anyone I would definitely put it on Tom green here. I think that he definitely has a big advantage here second place, and before you reveal that I hope they have cameras trained on Lolo, Ricky taymor and Natalie when they revealed at Tom is is the don't screw me over this. He did not give me cameras when Cody one America's favorite player. I am bitter about that still listen to me. Here's the problem. Lolo already expects Tom to win America's favorite. She is talking about how you know, they told us beforehand that you should do things late at night. And and Tom was doing these silly things late at night. So he's probably gonna win. Okay, taymor. I think is a lot more likely to be a bit surprised by Ricky. I feel like Ricky would probably kind of expect it at this point to. So we need to reveal the top three. Did they reveal the top theory when Ross one thing. So I don't think they did. I think they were just like oh. They want people to know on a top three. Yeah. You do not make the top three wondering else anything or if it's just like whoever wins. Yes. Okay. So second place for America's favorite was. In fact. Candy candy. Yes. Candy second place with about eight point seven percent of the vote compared to Tom's seventy three. And then taymor wasn't third place with eight point six percent of the vote reveal the top three bend. I might that might help sued the wounds a little bit there. If I tame are knows that she's in the top three. And I think they might like to announce team from the top three. So we'll see Ryan was in fourth place with three point on. My God, y'all get a life. Get a life. It was not a lot of people. But look. People like Ryan. All right. So there was a little bit confusion about this question. But I was wondering if you were Lolo during her double of addiction HOA train who would you want to put up on the block who would you want to be the final nominees? This was a pretty straightforward one candy, and Tom where the obvious choices. And that's what the audience decided. I also asked about Ricky's HOA. Who'd you want on the block if you were Ricky once again what Ricky decided to do DNA? In candy were the top two vote getters there. I also asked who do you think is going to win? The stock watch. Carrie, I have won the last two, but go ahead. Please proceed. In last place with ten percent of the vote, rob sestina. Yeah. Not in last place. That was the Tom green of it. All. In third place with nineteen percent of the vote. Melissa denny. Yeah. I'll never win. You guys her right? Yes. And with forty percent of the vote between myself and Brent the audience decided Taryn is going to stock. Don't care about history. You don't care. He's stepped in it more times than not. But that's fine. I technically have the most like liquid value here in terms of. Stock value plus cash holdings, but not by much Brent is very close. And you had thirty percent of the vote behind behind myself. It was about right now. Thirty percent like me seventy haters. That's about right. Yeah. I was asked who do you want to be a victim this week pretty dramatic one here. All eighty seven percent said Dina they want to over candy and Dina's totally fine. And we like her but girl by we don't need you anymore. And I think it would be pretty Connick to four people of color at the end of big brother celebrity too. I think you're going to be critical. We offer Gabby here. And wondering talking about it. So it's like actually close to potentially happening. It didn't seem like it was going to when candy was endangered but Kendra not being danger anymore and good on her for saving her. But yes, yes, absolutely interesting to know candy has been on the who do you want to be a victim this week poll for three out of the four times? I did it. And the first time she was not the person that they wanted to victory. The second time she was the person that you wanted third time not affected. It's been a roller coaster for candy. I love Pokemon in a chat. Don't people want Brent fired from rob as a podcast, always poking? There's contingent out there. He's always a petition poll question. Think brench should be fired from. That was that was a question how it should be. Oh, it should be. I was like oh was like, oh you predicted the future. Okay. So I am not even close to ready for the buying and selling quite yet. I'll talk to the chat while we do have a jury votes to go over. Okay. So the the audience predict who you thought the jury would vote for. So what we'll do here is we'll quickly go through each person. And then we'll talk about final two pairings because I think that's an easier way to talk about it. So we want to too much commentary on the person selves. We'll just go over the final two pairing. So. Who would Dina vote for in the final two people? Say candy. I followed by Ricky followed by tame taymor, followed by Lolo. I do want to disagree with this one based on Dina's conversation with Lolo today. I think that Lola would actually be number two potentially there after candy. Yeah. I agree with the survey people on this one. I think that I think she was blown smoke up her ass. I really do. I think she was just trying to make sure that she stays. I think like her. I think she's she thinks that Lolo is a mean girl, and she still holds a responsible for the way the season has gone. So I don't buy that. I think she I think she votes for Loa last. Right. Well, we'll we'll see. We'll see. Could candy vote for people say taymor. I followed by DNA followed by Ricky, and then Lolo last I think this is. Pretty accurate. I think pretty accurate given the way things stand right now. She knows she can't stay in. You know, unless Dina goes, actually, I think she would Beaufort Gina over. Yeah. I was on. If there was if there was an avenue for her to do that. But given that that's not on the game board. I think that she's most likely to vote for taymor. I yes, who would Lolo vote for in the final two people said Ricky, I which agree tame our second. I agree unless taymor cuts Ricky and Lolo in which case, I think she might not followed by candy followed by DNA. I think this is probably correct. Who would Ricky vote for? It is Lolo I followed by tame mar. But this is kind of a close vote and then handy. I actually think that he would vote for Tim are over Lolo. I I don't think he's feeling low low as much lately and low has been nicer to him in terms of assuring him that she's going to take into the end. So if if Natalie is able to talk to Ricky in any capacity, I think she's going to be like, don't you dare we're giving it to our girl. And I think that he would probably go along with that. But I do agree that there's so hard to inclination toward taymor. Again. He he does not like that little oh would not promise him a final two. So that's something important to know. Who would Tom vote for people said candy. I obviously he's said as much Dina second. That's another obvious one. Then Lolo followed by Ricky followed by taymor. I I'm inclined to believe it's Ricky lo lo tame mar. Myself. But I don't know if you guys disagree. Are we talking about sorry? I was reading the chat. Tom Tom would be most likely to vote for rigging trail Lolo? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, obviously. Danny on on the fact that Ricky was mean to him. I think that they're focusing more on the girls, and I don't really see Ricky's naming brought up. So it's possible that it will sort of fade from his memory that he and Ricky hardly a little thing. Tom still has this dick measuring contests with Ricky. And I feel like that by voting for him at the end he's able to say like that he's the bigger, man. Now, I don't know if that also, but also I and he even said this to Ricky he was, hey, you're only here because I kept you like, I think that it's like, hey, I decided the winner. Like, I the reason Ricky one is because I took him off the block. So I think that gives him some level of agency, or at least makes them feel that way Natalie said people said Lolo, I buy a mile followed by Ricky followed by Tamar followed by candy. And then Dina I again, I think that if k mart cuts Lolo and Ricky might be a different story. I also think that there's a small chance she goes Ricky over Lolo, depending on how the final speeches play out. She had a very strong connection with Ricky. And she's talked very highly about him outside of the house. She also loves Lola though, and Lolo has been doing some some Twitter Jerry management there. So I am inclined to believe it's more likely to be little over Ricky. But I would also not be super surprised if she went Ricky. Jonathan people say candy. I sorry deana. I followed by candy followed by Ricky followed by taymor. And then a low low last, obviously, I would disagree with that. I think the Tae is at least number three unless I listen to this. I've heard what he said I heard it. But I still think that in the end he would vote for a player if she gets any semblance of a final two speech at the end on right? So we we've gone over some of these other ones already, and I don't think a whole lot has changed quite yet. So let's start to go over the pairings here. We've talked about taymor versus candy we've discussed how we feel about it. The audience would predict that Dina is a vote for candy. They audience would predict that tame Maher is a vote. Sorry. Low low is a vote for taymor. So that's one to one Ricky would be a vote for taymor. That's two to one tame are. Really going to go through all these like that. Do you need to do something? It's because it's it's not opening on my. Harder to scroll through here. Mike. I'm like, we're really not going to get through forty five different ones with either. We Tom is tame is K candy Natalie is tame mar Jonathan is candy. And then Ryan candy. Joey candy Kato candy. So the audience would predict a six to three victory there for candy. I believe. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's probably the most likely. I like I said I put my flag in the sand. Onta- I think she can win. It's not going to be easy. She's gotta give speech, and she's got owner shit. I don't know if she will. She might the thing about is that she can be a little defensive sometimes if they come out or at all in the jury questioning at all if they come out of her I think she could be a little bit defensive, and that's not going to be a great look on her. But I have. So I have to concede that it's probably more likely than not that candy beats Tae six to three or five four. But I do think it's possible that the team are could win probably like thirty percent chance at this point. All right. So let's say low low wins. She takes Ricky how does that play out? I believe the audience has Ricky winning potentially eight to one. Yeah. Is what it's looking like from the audience that almost everyone except for Natalie voting for Ricky to win. Overload. I don't think it would be that dramatic. I do think that like I said, I think Joe might go four Lolo based on his Instagram post. But I'm not buying that. I think there's I think there'll be a lot of group think when it comes through celebs like they all wanted. Okay. Who we've only for what's the consensus. Okay. We're all voting for that person. I mean, if it's not going to be that had been it's going to be like five to four, but I think five to four is more likely than like, seventy two or something. Yeah. And then Ricky versus tame, mar I'm looking at these votes, and it is I think. Wow. I think it's eight to one predicted. For ricky. I think that we have candy as the tame our vote against Ricky into the audience things all the other votes would go to Ricky lies seats. Yes. Again. I think that's a little more dramatic than than I would personally predict. But, but I do think that Ricky has the advantage there Ricky has Natalie and Lolo I think that he has. Not sure about Dina. But I do think he has Tom and Kato that's four and then he just needs one more from Jonathan Ryan, Joey or Ordina. And then there's I think one other person. But either way I think that he has a pretty significant lead there. So yes, that's. Any other any other jury scenarios that we should go through any likely final twos? I think we've come. I mean to be blunt on board. That's that's everything we had sorry. This segment. Got a little messed up guys. It's I can't look at all the data technology. Have you done your thing? He's yet your by themselves. He doesn't. Why said you want me to talk while like you do some shit. So like to cure stuff. All right, right, right, go. Go ahead. What is it that you wanted to bring up nothing? I wanted. I wanted to talk to the Chad. Because everyone was asking me whether or not the Dina catfish story is going to be covered at the finale, and I have to say that it makes Dino look stupid. And I don't think they're going to do that to her face. The only way that the cap is story comes up is number one. If they absolutely verify that this is the guy, but most importantly, number two, if Dina is onboard for it like the only way this happens if if they talked to Dina separately and say in the event that you're victim or app. A finale we're going to bring this guy up on stage. How would you feel about that? I don't think that Gina wants to meet him. So I think there's no university or where. Dina's catfish guy if that is him on Twitter, and I actually don't believe that Tim on Twitter on stage, yellow yellow crazy. This is where Twitter like now. I don't think that I don't think anything is going to happen about that. I think that was just supposed to be like a funny segment, and then it's over although at the same time I kept saying that there's never going to be a proposal on big brother twenty and well here we are. So. You know, you never know what people are going to do at the finale, right mooch better. Not get a jury vote, by the way when you're done interrupt me. So I I know you're done mooch better. Not get a jury vote big six sec- banana says in the chat, I love that name, by the way. I don't think there's any universe where he gets a jury. But we're not talking about it. They specifically said that he's not a player. He said he was a twist he signed a shirt that said he was a twist so girl by he doesn't get a vote. I don't think that's that's at all ability, by the way. Yes. I am aware that read it is not currently a fan of me. I think that they were a little bit. But hurt over the fact that I defended swaggie a little bit on Twitter because I felt like people were really really coming for him. And I feel like people pick on him. So but right. It's not having with me. But you know, what read it will come back read it stands me at different times. So just depend to posts exactly at one post. That's like everyone saying me and stuff about you or any of us. And then another post literally at the exact same time is going with people saying nice things. Yeah. I get messages, by the way from people I got at least five different messages for people who are like I posted something in defensive you in read it, and I got down voted to bid so be thankful for that. Brent? I am thankful for that. I just want you to know. Working erin. So it's it's difficult because I'm. I'm gonna do it. We're just going to go here. I talk it out. It's a tricky one. Okay. So basically, let's let's open up the buying and the selling here. Let's do it all together. In my holdings that are shown right now. And we also have what's been lost on the right? I do have like I said, I have the most overall value. So it's really about who I put my money into. And then also. The difficult part is trying to calculate everyone else's value. And seeing what I need to do to guarantee of a majority in one person. And then how much I have left over to put into a secondary person. I do have enough to do that. But I I and fortunately don't have enough brain power at the moment to calculate everybody's potential buying. So I'm just going to kind of go all in on one person. And and then see how we go from there. So I the first thing I'm gonna do right away isn't going to sell all of my Dina. I've got five shares of Dina. I'm going to sell all five of them to pick up a twenty dollars there. I am also going to sell my taymor for another five. And I started this round with thirty eight dollars to spend. I know what's coming. Do. You. So wrong. I. I might as I feel like maybe I should just keep Lola. We'll keep Lolo for now. We'll see how this goes, basically. I'm looking at Ricky and candy as my most likely winners. That's that's what I'm thinking right now. I have one of Ricky I have none of candy. Brent and Melissa both have won candy. I am the only person that owns any Ricky. So it's a tricky one. I think if I play my cards, right potentially get a majority in both. But it's it's risky business to attempt. It Alexandra is saying that you have sixty three dollars just stuff. Why? Right. So I could buy I could buy twelve Ricky's to make a total of thirteen if I wanted to. And I'm pretty sure that is untouchable. I could buy twelve candies. I make twelve candies and that is also untouchable. So over it. I'm pretty sure that Brent is going to go in on taymor a little bit. Or at least he's not going to sell his tail. So I will have a decent enough lead on him there. He probably understands that he doesn't need to buy much more tame Mark because he's the only one that actually thinks that he needs taymor. I've seen him cover his mouth there. So maybe he didn't think that. So here's the thing. I think that candy has has a good shot. I think Ricky as a good shot Ricky's in my draft. So if I want to diversify I can buy a lot of candy. And then if either of them win, I'm still a winner. And at least one thing or I could double down on Ricky and try to win both. But but I everyone loves I like I like playing it safe. I like playing the odds here. So I'm gonna go ahead and. Oh, man. Melissa got so upset when I talked about how much Ricky I could have I feel like she went in on Ricky. I know I was just thinking like this exactly why I never win. The stock watch is because like I'm all about don't tell him anything by one information or teen poker player to do that. I would literally. Have any look all in thing is that I would never think by teen of someone. I would just be like oh by one for stock. All right. So Melissa probably didn't buy more than nine of anybody. Laney right now. I knew why she's really she's really playing Alexander's like Melissa purchase. Fifteen ricky's. So I am going to go ahead and. I'm going to buy. I'm going to go with. Oh, it's so hard. Do I go at the rate of Melissa? Or do I go with candy? It's so hard. I'm gonna go. Okay. Let me just quickly calculate. I'm sorry guys. Let me quickly calculate. How much Melissa has here. She started me intentionally because I'm trying to give away. She starts with thirty seven dollars. She she owns to Dina and one candy that means she can sell if she wants a total of thirteen which means a total of forty one dollars. If she wanted to buy all Ricky, she could buy eight Ricky with forty dollars. So if I buy nine Ricky, I guarantee myself more Ricky than her that would only leave me with four additional candies or actually only need to buy eight Ricky's to get nine. So then I can buy five candies, and then hope that that's enough candy all Brent needs to do is by four candy time either and five to beat me. And that's not too hard for him given how much money he has. But he thinks the candy might not win. So I'm gonna go ahead. And I'm going to do that. I'm going to buy eight Ricky to get to nine Ricky. And then I'm going to buy. An additional five. No sorry. Eight Ricky and then four full four candy. I think. Oh, if I sell my Lolo than I can buy another candy. I'm going to do that. So that's what I'm going to do there. Let's see what that leads me to remember. Please. Again. I apologize. If that's too long. I do. But watching or listening to you work it out because you were like, you're like, I might go this way this way, so bad. There's that possibility. Yeah. Yes. It was it was a tough call. And I honestly I feel like I could probably even sell a Ricky and get another candy. And then they were saying in the chat can we get that math Jeff imposed over? Okay. Last thing I'm going to sell one of those Ricky's, and I'm going to get another candy. I'm gonna go with eight Ricky total and then six candy and hope that that's a majority on both. And we're gonna see how this goes. Okay. So what are you doing? I ate Ricky six candy is what I'm going with is that what you have total. Or is that what you have like today? That's what I have total. Okay. What you mean by I'm waiting for the job? Update. Eight. I'm listening. Okay. So I'm hoping that even if even if Melissa went with eight Ricky's, then we'll tie and my my overall value. We'll we'll beat here on a tiebreaker. All right. Brent? What did you choose? What did I choose hold on one side? Let me go to let's go down the list. Okay. So I obviously I believe she's going to be did. So I sold my Ford Zena shares I had thirty dollars coming into this week so selling four Dina shares Dina's currently priced at four dollars. So that gives me an extra sixteen dollars. So now, I have forty six dollars to spend and I currently own three taymor and one candy based on after I go ahead. And so my Dina so I felt pretty confident that people would leave me alone tame are so I purchased one taymor stock and I bought eight shares of candy, which leaves me with a one dollar at the end. So I went all in on candy buying H-shares of candy, and I bought one share of K KMart thinking that people would leave me alone about one more just in case. Yes. I wanted to protect myself. I do want to do something stupid. So I own at the end of this. I own nine shares of candy overall because I had one coming into tonight. And I also own total of four shares of jamar that is where I stand at this point with one dollar leftover, and I took the lead in candy, and then some by the way. Yes. All right, Melissa. What did you do? Well, I did have somebody like him. I did not by fifteen Ricky or whatever that I did not by fifteen candy. I just bought re- Recci three candy and to Lolo. Ooh. Tricky. I just yeah. I was like could about three Ricky and nine candy. So who's better poker player now? I really didn't. I really didn't expect you to to take the shotgun approach. Just make I got it this. But yeah. By the way, I did keep my DNA because I figured you has it. L it and then the only one with Dina stuff early with any DNA or Lois stocks. So if something crazy happens at the end one of them wins, and you're definitely business except just like we just got the numbers in from rob. Rob bought six Dino, rob is going to end with sixteen and nine Lolo. Well, then I got enough that has a majority in zero players. That's my thing. I think I thought you were good, Melissa. I really didn't. I have told everyone multiple times that I am so bad at the stock watch bad. I don't want wanna I don't want to sell them because I'm like that just shows. I have no faith in them. So I keep them. And then they go out the door, and they lose all my money. So yeah, rob says Lolo or GTS. Oh, I'm all in on Ricky, rob is all in on Lolo. That's what's happening right now. I'm literally Naga win period for this whole season whether the draft or the or the stock watch there either I don't think denies winning and I had a very good chance coming into this double of action, but I lost both players in the double of addiction Melissa getting decimated. Some for those of you listening to audio version Taryn has now taken the lead in Ricky by a whopping eight shares to none for me, and rob and Melissa. So here's the here's the lead Ricky wins. He's going to win. This stock watch. If candy wins the game, I will win the stock. Watch by base stealing nine don't care. I am too Dina. If if Dina wins the game rob wins. If Lolo wins the game, rob wins the stock watch. And finally if Tamar wins the game, I win the stock watch. So I had two chances. Rob chances Taryn has Rick Martin you have. I correctly predicted. It would. Yeah. I predicted no one would try to challenge KMart. And then I was like, oh, no. Spit it up if you had bought taymor with your shock, and then I crossed a mouth, so. Oh, well, that's okay. Fact myself out of it. Yes. Alright. So there you go. That's the stock watch. We'll see how this plays out. And and like I said, we'll we'll also when we do this season wrapup they've been playing along in the patron group, and we'll give a shout out to whoever wins the stock watch in the patriot group there this this this decision is going to haunt me for the rest of my days of candy wins. Have had it could we would you have ever bought nine shares of candy or I almost I almost went nine candy and three Ricky that was going to go by the end. So I that's why I was like I'll put a little bit of Ricky, and but I don't need to put so much. I mean, you'd go all in with candy. I really did. Definitely definitely a risk. But I didn't think you'd I thought you would like try to have your cake and eat it too, which creates credit. It's more. I would rather win by like by check like tech like technical checkmate, or whatever it is. Then then like putting all on black and getting lucky, but that's the way I play. I know. It's worked for you in the past. All right. So this is really a much more visual podcast than than most of the time. Probably. And again, I is if if I took too long, I'm I need to find a better better better method of figuring out. Mike is this person for a sorry for big brother candidate? We can work in a segment where I have something ready to go. We're most definitely and then you can just check out for like three to five minutes Brent's ranting segments. Sometimes I don't have something to rant about. So sometimes I've already done. It stacked is asking are we going to cover the feats next done? I'm thinking that shade stack. That sounds like shade. We covered everything. Like there's so many happening right now. Obviously, I'm not watching the feeds. So if any guys in the chat, let me know if something happened within the past hour that I need to catch up on. But I think I think we've got it covered. Yes. So there you go. I also we should probably say based on the ratings that the audience let me just get back to the ratings the audience thinks that candy is playing the best game followed by Ricky. And then then Dina then tame our than Lolo. So that's that's how the audience ranks the remaining players thus far in the game. I think it'll be very interesting to see what how this plays out after the season ends and everything like that. So we go anything else that you guys want to bring up before we wrap this up. Nothing. I am very excited for the end here, by the way. Big brother candidates seven starts. What is it like March seven I want to say. March seven so obviously, we're going to get some pre pressed before that. So we've got like two weeks year off, and then it's back up to speed for big brother Canada, seven, which I am super psyched about they always outdo themselves. Really Canada last year. They did not listen to me and did not show the feeds as much as I would like. But I'm hoping that I'm always hopeful. I'm always optimistic Taryn. You never know. Yes. I'm not seeing that anything major happened on the feeds that we head. Apparently stacked stacked missed the beginning of the podcast. And I was like well. Yeah. That's that's that's where we talk about it. Yes. We have we've covered it. We have covered it up. We were up to speed on the shenanigans in the big brother house right now. I guess I guess maybe Lolo is still thinking maybe she doesn't want candy. I still think tomorrow would get her way. But I could be wrong. Somebody said something in Chad. Where it was. Oh, I don't know where it went. Anyway, seeing tame Lolo talking to tame mar. And she's talking about how she thinks candy will take Ricky to the end and tamers telling Lolo Ricky will take you before he takes candy Lolo says, I don't think so says don't be dumb says I'm being honest taymor says I don't feel that. So it sounds like low is not quite on board the keep candy. Yup. They don't need her the. I admit that it's a it's an element that they're thinking about. But at the end of the day of taes like Ricky, we should keep candy here because you know. We would rather her be a Representative of our season than Dina. I think that that's probably enough. And I don't I don't think that I think Ricky would care about something like that. And I'm just gonna be like I'm gonna keep it real guys. Like, I don't think it's totally lost on the house guests that by victim Dina. It would ensure that we have the first woman or well, we have an all final four people of color. Have you talked about it in the house that I think it's in the back of their head though, when when they say things like, well, you know, we don't want Gina to be the Representative our season. She hasn't played the game. Like, we also say we don't want candy either. I think maybe you're right. I think they thought of that they're enough that they they don't care really baffler. Really? On it. Like, maybe maybe. But I yeah, I don't I don't like this from Lolo. It sounds like it's maybe not quite as solid as we thought. But I do still think that it seems like Ricky's leaning toward keeping candy especially after she promised him that she would take him to the final two tie. And I don't think Marston Jew than ours. Going to unless Kenny gets into with tomorrow our tonight, I think that there's no universe where a tame our votes. Do the candy which is hilarious when you look back at like one and two. I wanted to with the candy. Here's the thing. At least now if candy does somehow get a victim, there's going to be at least a little part of me. That's like at least Brent loss at least French just wasted nine. Shares some strong little all right? Right. So it's been it's been a season. It's been a bit of a rough season. I think that a lot of people have have checked out at this point. I think a lot of people are not super happy about it. There's still some people that are enjoying the season. I think it was a fun enough ride in terms of just like how crazy it was. I'm very glad that we have candy in the house, and you know. I would hope I would hope we have a better season next season. Personally. It was not my favorite season. If I were to rate this week in big brother, it would probably be down to maybe like four. Yeah. Honestly, this is not been a fun season for me at all. But at least short, it's true. I think that if candy wins, then it's probably depending on how she wins. But I think it's at least five total for me. Maybe a six if if Ricky wins, it's probably a four if Lolo wins is probably like three Ariella. If if Dino wins is probably like a four of taymor wins. Maybe maybe like a five because that would be interesting at least but overall I'm just not super high on the season. The way it should have been easy to predict what I was going to do in a stock watch. Because remember as far as big brother, Canada six goes. And big brother twenty goes, I won the draft. And I won the stock watch on both of those seasons. And if you look at what I have left in the draft anymore and candy left in the draft. And actually, I didn't think about it when I was doing this. But you know, there's a part of me like buys what I want to win. So I purchased taymor and candy stock and I have those dominated right now. So if are or candy wins the other game, I have one the stock watch. And I have one the draft for the third season in a row. I mean like shut it down. But I knew I knew you'd go in on candy. I just hope that I would have enough leftover but do not do not. All right. You can you can let me know if you have a hashtag for this for this podcast. It's been a bit of a long one. I hope you enjoyed it. A little miss a few missteps along the way, but we had fun fun. So let me know if you already hashtag ideas, you can find us on Twitter. I'm at Armstrong Taryn, Melissa at Melissa. The longest one ever. Threes, and you can find Brent one lucky gay or one lucky straight another. I'm seeing hashtag J. P? Math LLC math. L L ac- map is probably unless there's only better. Yeah. Terrence time make it sometime. Yeah. Shock starts Lolo. Stocks. Stocks is in bad. Lo-lose stocks Ello Ello crazy in order to make the pun work. Let's let's Lillo stocks. Probably another raybird loves they were low stocks and actually probably not I think it probably was worse last week last week. We'll this season has been really low. All right, hashtag, low low stocks. That's ELO stocks. Thank you, everyone for joining us over the course of the entire season will of course, be live tomorrow night after the two hour finale all of us will be there. Rob Melissa Brent myself will be hanging out talking about the outcome and listening to Brent brag and not even care because candy one. Of course, tomorrow morning. I'll be live at eleven. Am eastern. I was I was I was going to own. I was trying to only cover the final four. But I still am not entirely. Sure, it's going to be left. So I might have to just like do very I feel like I won't do them Justice. But I need to talk about taymor at the very least and then candy, and or DNA and they're asking a chat. When are we going to do our wrap up later on this week? Maybe whenever we don't know. Play by ear depending like if there's information we need to know about like what the jurors were thinking or hearing exit interview. We try to pick the right spot. When we feel like we have adequate information about the season that we're not just repeating the finale coverage. Right. So we'll do that probably next week. Keep just keep keep updated. We will follow us on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn. So thank you everyone for joining us. I hope you enjoyed the podcast even if you didn't enjoy this season and for Brent and Melissa wait a minute. I forgot one more thing. Check out the block memory. This season's about to end. We recorded the first big brother three block memory over over last summer and into the fall check it out. If you're craving for good big brother when this season, ends checkout big brother three and check out the block memory. It's a lot of fun. I promise you can find that link on rob has website. And I will I will tweet it out again after the season ends. We'll have a nice big gap between now and big brother Canada. So it's a good thing to hold you over get you excited about big brother again. So that's got. 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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Finale Episode Recap Feb 13

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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Finale Episode Recap Feb 13

"Comedy live from my apartment. It's right has a podcast. Now. Here's the guy who stumbles over each and every one of life's hurdles, I am rob sister Nino. And here we are tonight on with our esteemed panel for our recap of the celebrity big brother twenty nineteen finale, and congratulations to tame our Braxton, the unanimous winner of celebrity big brother sweeping every one of the jury votes. Our entire LLC all hands on deck here tonight to talk about this first. Let me say Hello, Melissa, Danny? How are you? I'm doing great. I you know, I felt like we were leading towards Ricky win, you know, following pass seasons. Precedent? I made a joke that landed like a lead balloon on Twitter. Jury gets it wrong. Say I've been careful now I labeled a sarcasm joke or sarcasm hash. Hash jokes. Are we watching the same show Ricky's going to win? I was like, okay. All right. Everyone. All right. Let's get the reaction at the sour Taryn Armstrong is here. Yes. Tame marquee sling. I gotta say I was very sad when candy left and from that point forward. I was just like I need candy to have something. I was I was hoping for the team are win. I was I was thinking prior to this that Ricky might have it but leading up to the episode. There was some social media liking that was going on that made me think tamer was gonna be the favorite, and and she just blew through that she she crushed those jury questions like nobody's business. I still think that we should have gotten more than three questions because that would have been fun. But overall it was a slaughter about slaughterhouse continue to fly. The people in the corner, like cut them. It's over if you just like, okay? So thinking body bag. Nine jurors. We got three questions you need them. You didn't need him. It was it was an open and shut case tonight. Brent walnut. How you doing rob? How you do it? The right now just like I called it from the beginning. I'm just saying like there were the Indiana all seriousness there were times where I started to doubt me. She had made a mistake along the way. But I always contended. I even wrote this four days ago that I disagreed with Taryn and Leon ah on their Saturday morning podcast when they both said that they didn't know what the hell I was doing that. She's she needs a miracle that she's worse than Lolo at this point that it's terrible. And I said, no, she they're going to reward her if she gets to the end for being authentic. I I really do like that's what happened. Well, you did say one thing all along. And stop me, if if it wasn't brave attributing the to the wrong person, but you compared to big brother nineteen Josh during the season. And I think that that's really appropriate in terms of that they played the emotional. There were highs and lows, but then at the end. Just that emotion can carry you across the finish line with Jerry. I feel like that's definitely part of the case. I also compared to standard twine and by that I mean from her first season of survivor, not her later seasons. Some of you all have only watched I feel like it's definitely both of those two combined because shading right now with that. Because I thought she has more agency in the game Ben Josh ever did. And she had she had a sense of where she wanted the game to go. What direction she wanted to go? Having said that she wanted to say to the final she probably with a loss candy in the file two. But she still made it to the end again. I I feel like there is an element in reality. TV where people who are really extra and really big personalities can them way with more in the end because it's like, well, we know your an ask, but you're ours. And we get you and your authentic at least, whereas I don't really trust this guy over here. And I do feel like in the final two questions. She came up. Totally authentic and Ricky seemed a little stiff and I do even. Yeah. I know right. Like, they were going to vote for team are no matter what we need to talk about the way fans and social media influence, the Jerusalem, even Einstein solve beyond talking to Jonathan Bennett as he was looking at the final two trying to tell him which one vote for it. I saw him nodding to the audience. So I definitely think all of this place apart. But she let's let's be real taymor. Braxton played a great game of big brother now for celebrity big, brother. I think she made a few mistakes she shouldn't have popped up. She did because it was an unsecure stir jury. But that aside, I think our positioning was fantastic. And overall, I think she really really did a great job. And I am so so happy with her. And I didn't think she was capable of giving the answers in the final two that she gave it was an all-time jury reform insz rich celebrity there was an all-time jury performance everything I wanted her to say except for gimme the damn money. She said she's she was repetitive. Yeah. She brought up the fact that she was a fan. She. She had authenticity to voice. And I just don't think you you cannot either got it or you don't if you don't have that juries will not buy what you're selling. Okay. So great job on a jury questioning. I was so impressed. I mean like I thought they were both in a do a decent job. But like break was doing terribly entail. Mar was doing amazing. I my only critique at this point for the jury questioning and everything what's your final speech. I felt like she should have talked more about herself in the game. I mean, I totally get the outside plea like, hey, this is me. This is what I've been doing, blah, blah, blah. The plea to emotions, but then you gotta get into the game stuff. And I feel like she didn't vote. Well, yes, she did. I thought she did a great job. I mean in comparison to Ricky. He barely answered the questions and it took him like five minutes even start talking. So. Yeah, she did great. Let's brent. Let's. Rattle off all the first tonight. Oh, well, I me my three Pete. I had my first three P talking about you kidding on my Jonathan Ben. And I'm making it all about me. No, I won't do that. I won't do that. I'm gonna tell you about Braxton first African American winner of big brother first African-American final two in big brother history are only our second jury sweep at the end nine zero. And I love I was living for the fact that Julie Chen brought up Dan geese lane and maintain mar realize that she was in his company that was is tame are better than Dan Taryn, considering that tamer has never lost big, brother. Good point. She's nine nine zero. And then a perfect record and more jurors nine two seven these power. Probably have the the top big brother winner of all time. And and. Getting I'm sorry, but she has overtaken genital. Yelling at me to make sure that we knowledge the back that she broke the first in curse, she was as I said on the show a couple of days ago stupid, this you broke the mold you guys are. So I love you guys. You guys are you guys? Some sometimes can be dumb like cleared out for people who don't over talking about talking to the chat room because they're yelling at me right now. There's never been a person who has won big brother that has entered the house first and Braxton did enter the house first. And so everybody was like, oh my God. How could she have done that as a fan of big brother? She just proved that there's nothing to these things curse curse until it's broken. I learned that on once upon a time. Turnip cake on this one because I liked the first incurs because it showed us who the true super fans were because people like Tyler would be like, I'm not going in. I you'd see like who actually knows the show. Really? Well, I guess no. I don't think feels well taymor. Braxton broke the care. So I'll let me rose. Yeah. I think people still like it's bad luck. Celebrities. So it doesn't count me. Maybe. Yeah. Exactly. There's always some diverse in curses no longer thing anymore. I mean, honestly like I was going into the house. I probably still wouldn't go in first because no about it. Then. I do it. It's. I would still do it. But only because I'm very superstitious. So I'd be like I'm not going to risk my entire game. Just to improve everyone that it's not a curse like an if I everyone I mean Taryn Terron you watch me I'm gonna go in. I no way I'm not doing congratulations to tame taymor, very exciting to see that. Because it was it was a big deal to her Melissa a life changing amount of money is going to be changing hands tonight. And by that I'm talking about Ricky Williams dealer. I think is about to inherit a windfall hold on. Rob. That's not a lot of money. And you know, the agencies I mean between nine zero sweep in the finals, Melissa Tom green being America's favorite player. This was a bitter pill to swallow here for Ricky at the end. Yeah. Probably and also it was all his own doing to seem. He had two opportunities to get the right people out in order to put him in the best position to win. And he didn't do it. So I mean, he only asked lame south. It's not like someone else took him to the final. And then, oh, this is where the votes all fell. It was all on him. He won both ages. I'm not about counting votes about rewarding who's loyal to me. So, you know, Lolo did not promise me that. She would take me to the final two. And that's really all it comes down. You called it on Twitter that was a big deal to lo-lose. The reason Ricky Williams doesn't win big brother. I feel like is. Jones who sides not to agree to Ricky to take into the final two like, well, if she if she does that then I think there's a chance in hell that he actually takes Lolo to the final to win. Okay. Let's talk let's talk through Ricky's night here as ultimately, it's clearly it's taymor is night. But I think that Ricky is a big part of this story because he's the person who's deciding who goes home, there's five people in the house. He's alternately of the of that five picking who he wants there with him at the end is completely the architect of this finale night where he has the decision in the tiebreak to either say Dina or candy out of the house, Melissa any do we have anything to even discuss here with his decision ear to take candy out instead of DNA? I don't I mean, I think he would have won against DNA more than he would want can't eat by overall that was better choice for him. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page. He makes the right call here at five by far. I mean, like rob seriously Gina in the final four H O H competition. It was like one. Like around the planet of the monkeys are before the serum and they're picking up the paddles randomly like. In all these missions like when she gets. She's like trying to put the puzzle up, and she's like, they're not sticking what's going on here. And then they're like you've been eliminated. He made the right call with his first decision of the night. Okay out. Indeed, do you know walking onstage to join the jury and she's like. I I said earlier I said like I said last night like the in order to get to the tiebreaker for this final h wage, you just need to have a base level of like understanding like knew how to do basic math, essentially, these questions were super easy, and I managed to get more of them wrong. Improbable, but she did it. Okay. So now, we get to the tiebreak question, and it's between Ricky entail, mar. And the question is it's a kind of a confusing question because. Many minutes. Again, we we love to come. How many hours was it in between the first celebrity big brother announcement about the mooch to the one that nobody heard during the double vision and the answer was like four hundred something Ricky says one fifty KMart bread on a great night for taymor has fifteen teen hours in between. Left and the double. Wow, time just goes. Sense of time in the big brother house college. Drina long day. Wonky even I didn't understand it totally at home. I was like what have you how many days she thought? Yeah. I've been she thinks she wrote down the days and forgot to multiply it by twenty four. I knew offhand of the season was like what twenty one twenty two days long. And that was about the two-thirds point. So you knew it was about working fifteen days, and she's a smart girl. She knew all the other questions. She knows what's going on the house. She's been keeping track. I think she just made a little boo boo there and forgot to multiply and luckily, maybe they're going in just trying not to go. I don't think she did. She wanted to power enter hand the season was twenty eight days. He left a six. So it wasn't that close today's either. So maybe it wasn't that. I'm not sure. Tearing it was it was like when the first win the First Interstate fifteen a pretty good answer between mooch is on day six and fifteen days later day twenty one even understand the question. Oh my God. Is once again, this proves that the stupid map tiebreakers are steamboat Grote. The first one was day. Six the second one was like day twenty five. Yeah. All right. Terrible answers for. I don't think I don't think she was thinking days because it would've been a lot more than fifteen. I think because she knew that. Get hung up on this. Let's get hung up on this. Okay. So Ricky now has the chance of that. What you who what two people do? I wanna knock out of the game. And the way that they do this. I go back to Mark McGrath. The other night who came in came in third on. Did he say he came in third because he was the second person to get knocked out by the h h yeah, I think that way too. I think it's time for third place. It's very ticky tack. Okay. That that being said, so all right. So easy one. Okay. Knocked out Dina. Okay. The guy she's out. And so I think. Most people based on the reaction the audience thinking, okay, Ricky has the layup here to take low low. There's been with low low the hallway he ends up taking taymor. Okay. Could we talk through the thinking here on Ricky Williams? So basically, Ricky went to to low low, and he was like, hey, you know, like, what are you thinking the final two he wanted to make deal with her to make sure that they would take each other to the volunteer. They'd been working together for a long time. And so he felt like this, obviously, we're going to be taking each other to the final two and Lolo was like. Yeah. I'm just not sure I'm not sure about it. I don't really know what I'm gonna choose. And so he was like, okay. So I'm gonna go to tame then he went to taymor. And he was like so tame Mahar, how do you feel about a final two? And she was like, yeah. Million percent. The right answer. Right. And so that was it that was all and he talked about he wanted to reward the the loyalty and the rest of property, so. Which is even funnier when Lolo ends up being like, I was trying to be fair to tame our by saying, no, I didn't think it was fair to make a deal with Ricky to take each other to the end I wanted to be able to not Ricky. But how dare he not take me right on God. Karen hypocrisy from her. I was trying to cut her a break because I'm sure they're like all humans are the hero of their own narrative. I'm sure she thinks he's trying to the best. She can. But my God, she cannot step up side of herself for one minute. And listen to what you're saying. I mean, it's just so hypocritical to say what you said on the stage to Julie Chen to the point where you totally lost the audience Lolo I'm talking about. And I really think that Gina by comparison made you look so bitter because like it was like I shouldn't have done that. Even though she admitted that he made a good move. Even though it really wasn't a good move. Gonna win. She was gonna win gonna win nine zero there. She had it. In fairness. In this is I believe a career best third place finish so congratulations to low low for a bronze medal finish in celebrity. Big brother. Good work by Lolo actually looked at. Because like I didn't even trust her when I was listening to the podcast tonight. I'm like what she really that close to a medal at the Olympics. And actually, she she kind of was she she she actually clipped the hurdle at the very end. That's why she said stumble over the hurdles God, I was actually replayed it because I wanted to watch it like. Hurdle competition. Oh, you're gonna give Lolo. The hurdles I told you I told you we? This. I was like, okay. What are these hurdles, and it was literally like the farthest thing from hurdles like he had run over the Taylor's mind. Maybe she thought that a low low was like skipping across the laser beams. I do think that being a hurdler like helps you be able to have body. She's tall his long legs. You should probably step over a lot of them. So she did win. She did win her fair share of the veto competitions low self. So there's that so the Ricky then takes taymor to the end. Brent was he thinking that taymor had lost the jury. I think that he was thinking that low of mine have won the jury. I think Lolo comedic clear that she needed the money. He was always working with Lolo. So I don't think he ever saw her nasty side and didn't really view her the way, the audience view her, and maybe some of the jurors viewed her I think that he thought that taymor was an easier win because she was extras, you know, what? And she he will look I really do believe this Charron noted earlier that he wanted to reward loyalty, I do think that was a part of his thinking, he I'm sure. His mind he should have won. So he's like, well, the two of these people are probably about similar, maybe Lolo is harder b but I definitely want to reward taymor for being loyal to me because that's what's important to him. So I think that's an aspect of what he was thinking. Yeah. I think even think he was thinking about like winning by the end, it was kind of just like I'm just going to reward loyalty, and I'm just going to get to the end and essentially all going to play out as it's going to play out. But I don't think he was really like strategizing and thinking who's going to get the most votes, and who can eat be and anything I really think he was. I mean, if he was really thinking strategically than he would've taken Dino long. So I think he was genuinely upset with Lolo that she wouldn't promise to take into the end. And he wanted to punish that while rewarding tame for saying she would. And I think that when he says, I look I'm not about counting votes. I think he was genuine about that. And it turned out he he didn't have to count votes because he didn't get let's just talk through real quick. I don't want to on this Ricky versus Lolo. If if we could. Okay, Terron have you? Have you done the math on this? I mean, I it's. We know Ricky is going to be bad. And I feel that Lolo might have a little like she might be a little delusional, but she's going to have a little more energy than. Speech being like, I played my heart out. I want to win this. This is never won anything. We know that that Ricky is going to be like a bump on a log Lola's gonna have some fight is it close. Prior. I don't think if unanimous prior to today all of the social media likes from the jurors were very sort of anti Lolo entame, mar or at least prior to the Monday night episode. I should say it was very anti Lolo entail. Mar with some like, but if you have to Ricky and then after the Monday night episode, we saw like immediately after we saw a few people start liking anti Lolo things more specifically and tame our was not really in the hating the like hating club anymore. And then by today, it was all about no, no Lolo, Ricky. It was all of a sudden Ricky we all hate Ricky. So I don't know what happened. They I know they got together. A lot of the jury members prior to the vote, and they discussed it, which I think contributed toward them all getting on the same page about. The direction they were heading. So I think we'll probably need to ask them if they had to decide between Ricky and Lolo, my mom, I guess what have been Ricky. But given how poorly she did. I really don't know. We saw taymor Brent fight with people. But it's the shell side. Good times with people in the house where Ricky I feel like that. There were not a ton of good times necessarily where he didn't have as many fights. But he also didn't have as many like Tom green said, you know, the person made me laugh, the most the thing is that like tame are as you always pointed out to me, she's more like the dog, and I feel like Ricky's more like the cat in the equation, like she's the one where you can see it on her face like issue, happy, she said, she's authentic. You know, Ricky is more shy and more reserved, and he can be a little snickering at times to the point where you're like questioning like argue being fricton me on purpose or you just kinda that kinda got just a par said that I have said that that you are more like a dog. I've never say Tomar with anything like a dog. I just want to. I am. I. I rob. As always said that I'm the dog and Terence the cat. So I'm trying to make the analogy here right here that team are is more like the dog because you can see exactly how she's feeling the she's she had one hundred percent herself. Yeah. Brent wags tail. You know, how he's feeling Taryn grew more more aloof that thing that always have never heard this before. What do you think? Stuff. Terry was when I was just bitching about you randomly one day. Something something to be pointed out REO on Twitter. She does the the dire room counts for the show. And sent me along the us something important too to note. I think is that taymor had the most diary rooms across the whole season with with ninety total and Ricky had less than half of that. And so if we're looking at Ricky and Lolo, if we're saying the diary was probably matter at least to some degree since they are watching the Show, Low low had about fifty percent more diary rooms than Ricky. So that potentially could point toward, you know, maybe maybe one of the reasons why they were so indirect because they never even saw on the show. They just heard about all of the worst parts from the feeds and never saw any good stuff from the show. Not that Lolo had good stuff on the show as opposed to tame our so maybe that wouldn't have mattered. But you know, something to look at. I have an opinion on this. I think Lolo beats Ricky at the end based on what I know now based on the way Ricky behaved in the way, I think Lolo would have behaved. I think that she would have gotten a votes. I think that they would have voted for. I think there's an element of her that they would have felt sorry for that. She really needed the money. I don't think Ricky would have given them a reason for him. And I think Lolo would have made a wish for herself. So I think Lola wins. It's not unanimous. But I do I think I would have been closed in been closed for sure unless I feel like that. This jury was almost like voting blocks where I feel like that we had Jonathan lock the, and Joey that's that was a block they were probably gonna they're probably gonna vote the same. And then you had the Tom and Kato voting block. And then the people that just came out of the house seemed like that they were sort of at least like comparing notes in the end. So when we look at that, I think that that's very important to follow. And I think that that would have been interesting to see in. Rickie versus low especially like the Tom in Kato. How how would they have done? I one of the things that stuck out in my head the way that Ricky Williams smiled when he voted against Tom green Taryn. I feel like that. That was to me if I'm Tom green. I look at that. And I say I have to get back at Ricky somehow. I guess so. By the grace of me, you're here. I'm not gonna give it to you twice. I'm not going to. I'm not going to take you off the block, and then also award you the victory. I see that. I mean, I think that he could've found reasons for all the people to to to have reasoning I think that the voting blocks combined. I think that I saw a lot of pictures with with Jonathan his group with Tom and Kato they were taking a lot of pictures together and talking about, hey, we're deciding our jury vote, what are you guys think? And so I think all five of them were going to be blocked together. No matter what. So I think that's important to look at and then heading into the finals. I think I probably put my money on Lolo. I think. So close so close hurdle. Own mistakes too. I if she if she would have said what she needed to say like Robbie was shades of Christmas from big brother nineteen getting all the way to the end. And then saying like stop playing the game. Sanity, you come all this way. Like, all you have to say one more thing lo aim was in love with somebody in the final two. No sorry. All joke. The alliance. Lions. Just to one of my favorite moments of the night tonight. Brent was when they talk to Jonathan and. They don't seem to care for him. And then these Julia said, and then once Jonathan was gone, then it was really all about the and Joey Lawrence that bromance? And Jonathan was like, hey, but I was and then the cameras just like slowly like crops him out of the shot. I need to see that. I need to be a gift of. Catty jargon on Twitter and Umberto from our group. We're living for the fact that they just cut Jonathan out totally. They cut you off at the mouth. That's. We really catty said on Twitter, we really dodged a bullet. Came out of the shot. Ryan lock these saying Julie's saying link. I'm sure you've it seems like you made a lot of lifelong friends, and he's like absolutely I made so many lifelong friends I made to lifelong friends. What about us? These to these would whatever was like, hey, which is exactly what we gain. By the way, we played the game was all about him and extent, Joey it was we couldn't get outside of his own head, Terry. Was there one person that you were most surprised that Ricky did not get their vote NAT Natalie surprised me because I was expecting her to vote for Ricky. But I think the problem was that Lola was so pissed that she got cut, and I think the Natalie also got very upset that Ricky would cut low low. And so I think that she switched at the last minute to me most I've spread lock the didn't throw Ricky of haute here that he just got peer pressured by Jonathan and Joey to vote for tamer. I felt like that, you know. Athlete to athlete. I was surprised. I just feel like I think you were you're spot on with the voting blocks thing. And I think that the fact that they're allowed to hang out outside of the house and they're allowed to talk about it. And they're allowed to share things. I just feel like they felt the pressure to to all together. Because then also, I mean, you you can't blame one person, you know, because everyone's voting the same way. So it's it's like, hey, we all agreed that this was the way we were going to do it rather than like, I'm gonna do my own thing. Even though I honestly probably prefer everyone to just do their own thing. But when you have people talking you have people on social media hearing, all the stands of people in the various people telling you, the bad stuff about other people, and I just feel like it it made sense. I can't cosign that. I don't think that's what happened that you got pressured into voting for taymor. He was like be loved taymor in the house. I mean, I know what it was. I know it's a ways back. He like he really had a great relationship with. Locked gym talking about to the point where he has nicknames for her and she was calling him nicknames in in in the jury question. So I feel like that was an easier. Call the maybe we're making. I think it was peer pressure. I'm just saying I feel like I don't think anybody really felt comfortable going against the grain of their group. I think everyone came together they retreated it. They talked about it. And they were like, okay. This is the way we're doing rather than like, okay? Let's talk about it. And now, I'm going to do my own thing. I think everyone kind of like an agreement on what they were gonna. The person that he wanted to vote for lined up with what the group was thinking basically came out and said, that's what they were doing that. They were that they were coming together. And they were going to discuss it, and they were coming up with voting strategies, and I push people like get upset about this. And it was like where have you been? We've been talking about how obviously these people are gonna vote together since since they got voted out. Like, of course, they are their friends. They got voted they're hanging out together. Of course, they're gonna vote together. It's inevitable. I liked when they put their votes in. And then Julie was like, okay. Now, we're going to talk to the jury about now that they've seen the show. Let's hear what they had to say. It's like, yeah. They already saw the show before they before they voted. Why don't like all right now? The things have really shifted now that we've reached the point where we could talk about the show. I know right. I never you. Right. I actually never thought about that way. The questions we wanted to be asked. They were like did you make brands did you have fun? It's like that's not what I wanna hear about it. I wanna hear like the reactions to certain things that happen. I mean, honestly, like, what am I to expect big brother always? Bad jury segment and reunion. Just let's talk about the the format of the show in in a little bit. I want I want to come back to tame our? I would love to know for celebrity big brother three if we get that. What what do celebrity big brother players who if they get the DVD's of the season Taryn or the or the fire stick of the season. And then they pop it in what what should they take away from taymor? Braxton taryn. Well, this is something that I've been thinking about a lot actually because I think that there are things they should take away and things they will take away. I think that I think that this is actually really good for the show because there's been a lot of. Winners that people disagree with or at the very least like, hey, you know, the better player didn't win because they were to main. And I think that this is a case where if you're watching just the show, then you're seeing Ricky pretty nice and chill. And you're seeing taymor be really out there and yelling at people. And then she wins unanimously, and I think that can really help to counteract this sort of momentum that we've been going down with with this idea of like you have to always be nice all the time. And I think that's really great. I think that hopefully this bleeds into the regular season as well. I think we really needed something like this to happen. And then in terms of what I think they will actually take away from. I think that I think that hopefully will make them more aggressive because we also saw on the episodes that taymor was one of the more aggressive players on the season strategically that she was she was lying people. She was playing both sides. I think that she comes across as one of the better players, just through the episodes alone. And I think that that is going to be really good because what we saw last time was the people that seem to be playing the most lost early or lost the jury vote. And so we came into this season and everyone so scared to play the game. So I think that this is all good stuff for for a potential third season of big RoH celebrity all they watch two of the really great points really reports because we heard so much in the preseason about how like oh Ross lost the game because of how. Don't be like don't play like rostered because that's how you lose the game. And so we we are ton of that, Melissa. Yeah. I agree with what both you guys are saying. And in addition to that, I like the idea of that KMart was willing to go against the grain and go against her alliance to work with other people like candy. Because in these past seasons. We've seen a lot of once you join an alliance like you'd better stick with it. And that's your that's your team for the whole time. And nobody flip flops because the second you go to another side or you work with other outside people, you get knocked off. So it's nice to see that you can win the game, and you can work in between alliances. And I think that that'll be good for future seasons for sure. Felipe in says be fun like KMart and be up front and not backstabbing like no lick. I have a theory and big brother that you are allowed to backstab like one time. But when you get to the point where you're backstop in jumping from alliance to alliance alliance. Like, no Lookie did for the first three to four victim cycles of celebrity big brother, you're to the point where no one likes you. And I don't think you can recover much of that in the end. So I do feel like in a way that you can play aggressive like the team are did. But she also fries memo's Melissa notes. She freelanced. And I think that also gains are points people to the point where they knew that she was loyal to candy like she may not be loyal to many people. But she was loyal to candy there at the end, she would've taken it into the final two. She had the chance probably law. Say also like first of all the fact that she she handled Tom in Cato, exactly the way you're supposed to handle someone like that. Where you say, look, I you don't try and sit there and sugarcoat and say I had nothing to do with the way you got out start like that wasn't me. Like, Paul tried to do you? You say look I had to get you out because you guys were the strongest competitors. You were my biggest threats, and so I had to the jury segment injuries. That was. The way she handled it throughout the season. Whatever. Got the way she handled that the reveal of telling them, you know, I had to get you guys out in the jury's segment. I mean, if I'm just sitting in Tom caters position, I'm looking at her, and I'm like, okay. She better have good to say because I'm pissed off. And then she says that and I'm like, yeah already. I'm pretty good. I was a big day. Okay. Cool. Yeah. I think this jury questioning really showed her knowledge of the game. I think this really is where I was talking about it this morning when when he was talking about how he felt like her emotional side was kind of the thing that would win the day. But I my argument was I think it's it's it's her intelligence strategy. That is going to be the thing that wins the jury over, and I think that at the very least that was what was being shown in her jury questioning answers and so on and so forth. I she she knows like she knows the history of the show. She seen what works in these jury speeches, you you can see it with people who know the game. Although not always not all people who know the game have been able to do this successfully as we've seen recently, but taymor did. And so she knows exactly the kind of ways to answer. Like like, she probably watched. Survivor china. She washed Todd like kill it in the jury. Right. She probably watched Dan geese Ling on season ten kill it with Jerry. And so she knows exactly how to what the kind of answer. She needs to say. For instance. Hey, Tom, the reason I needed to get you out is because you're just so good. I think the really worked in her favour is that I think that she was kind of seen as a wildcard so wear that the people that are sort of like like really dug in on one side. And then if they if they betray or they or they flip I that's seen as more of a thing that's a negative but somebody's wildcard or temperamental. I think it's the people forgive it more because they say like, oh, that's just them. That's just came. Are you know, she's a she's she's volatile. So I have always contended Taryn. I have to bring this up. You know, I came with receipts. All right. So I want I have an honest. Question for you. Okay. I want to play something. I have a question. Right. So here we go. I hope play something from this. We're about to your about to play audio off of your phone into the microphone work. Not a big brother finale until Brent is playing. Go with me on this phone. Okay. It was. All right, hold it. Right up there. All right. Well, hold on push it right up against the microphone. If you're going to try to make this work. Brent was late for the podcast for. All right. Three really, really falling. Even just last night. I was saying I think Lolo probably needs to miracle to win this game. I think for miracle Braxton because I feel like Lola might be able to beat her. Okay. All right. So you play let me let me repeat that just for people that are at the turn up the volume all the all the way there get that. All right. So you play a clip, and this is the affirmation you said Taryn on Saturday said that mar. Terrible jury management now. Karen, we'll give the chance to respond, but this was coming off of a weekend where on Friday nights. She's like clapping and dancing as Tom green is walking out the door in in Tom Green's face. And you're in was on here. Clutching his pearls about it. And I said calm down calm out Queen hold on. Let's pull up the Brent Twitter account over you said exactly that you were clutching your pros about this moment is wasn't a good look, but she could win. Okay. So when you say. Okay. I really have a question. So like, are you contending that this Monday night episode, which you talked about what the whole how the editing is so good for tamer is the reason that she won in the end or well, okay. Because it's it feels to me like, and I'm not trying to shade you I'm saying this, honestly, because I know some other people are thinking this in the Chad. It's feels like you're trying to say that because of her greatly ended episode on on CBS on Monday, which is which you talked about on Twitter that you think that that's the reason why things which and the jury got behind Samar in the end on social media. And that's why the ultimate voted for an yet. What I've said is that when I was tracking the jurors on social media. It was it was it was very anti taymor. And pro Ricky up until Monday night. When I started seeing some some more pro Lola pro team are things I think that I don't think that's the thing that changed their minds necessarily, but we'll find out, but what you're playing from is something that I was talking about from Friday nights, which is almost a week ago. And I and I completely have completely changed my mind the very next day. Like, we talked about it on the round table last night. And we talked about some other things before. And I changed my mind since then you were in agreement with me at the time. And and yes, I was hyperbolic Brian. Br I was be like I I mean, that's the we're always hide for Pollick. I'd been saying because I made the joke that Lola needs miracle, and I was like, hey, maybe tame are is that miracle. She might be able to be mar and. Here's the thing. This is my I'll wrap it up with this that Taryn on Saturday. I really feel like we're really bagging on Mars to the point where they totally discounted her chances of winning the game which thin caused me to tweet out. Hey, I don't cosign this. I just want you all to know that I think that that even with all of this with her dancing on Tom's grave. I still think she can win. And here's why only one. For everyone to win though. I feel like it was a situation where I could absolutely see scenario where Ricky wins ICS REO where Lola wins ideas were Dina wins is isn't are wherever wins. I don't think KMart was doing a good job with Jerry management at all. It didn't matter. I bagged on every single person. House that night that night it was taymor. Because I felt like tamer was the worst. Also, let's look at this fourth dimensional where you know, we're talking about where maybe at the absolute knit, dear of the Tae Mars prospects with the jury Karen says that on that day, she's doing worse in Lolo. But things change over the course of the next five days what talking about the you want to be the underdog, and here's a taymor. She ends up being in the situation. Where now Ricky Williams ends up with all of this power down the stretch. And he's seen as the person who's taking out everybody in the house. And now taymor is the person who is fighting back against that. And so I think this she is she's gaining support. So she might have touched bottom on Saturday. It doesn't mean Attaran is wrong to say that on Saturday can Cayenne. Can. For number. I found tweet the most incendiary hyperbolic thing I said Brenta's as someone who loves taymor. I'm inclined to agree. That's taking. Funded. Find it other brand that was Trent. Welcome. Did did great down down the stretch nj. She questioned his great shooting. Honestly had a great finish. Hey, like Lolo, for example. I thought she was doing terribly with Jerry management. Then we start seeing all those tweets and stuff, and I'm like, okay. Maybe she is doing a good job Jerry management, then she gets called out for not being potentially nothing her. And so then it's like up never mind ever goes up and down and up and down especially with these Wester. Juries oppose the situation where everyone who leaves. That's it. It's a question. That's all they've seen of it. Then I think we could say like Tim are really screwed up. But the fact that they could then watch the episodes see what was really going on behind the scenes her character on the show. You know, all that stuff and seeing the people reacted to her on Twitter. I just feel like all that stuff certainly helps Tamar do I think she would win. If this was a semester jury. I don't know maybe, but we don't know. Clear to she wins a sequestered jury. I think nine zero as well like seriously. She was fantastic people coming out of the house. But that she was the one who was controlling everything if she gets to the end, and they don't even see any of her worse stuff. I think one hundred percent wins in the end. So this doesn't change anything. Although I still would like that sequester. What are the huge storylines of the season was the taymor relationship with candy. She she ends up voting to keep candy in the house forcing Ricky Williams to make the solo vote to Vic candy, which candy doesn't really like as she. She's coming out of the house, which really I think earns more goodwill for tame our Karen that she st- she stuck by candy. And even if it was to her detriment where she would have gone to the final two with her. I think that ended up being another big plus for taymor. Oh for sure Ricky's cookies. Space to Vika, Andy. I was just I vote to candy candy. This candy. I don't think we've ever had something that brutal. I was just it was like it was like that moment in the in the really realistic movies where somebody just gets shot in the head. And here's what's that was too fast dramatic bills. I'm not ready for this. Give it up to her like, I'm not I hate it. When people go on and on and their speeches, but he he needed to say something like ten fifteen seconds. Like candy. You're awesome. I'm so proud of you. I cannot beat you in the end. And I cannot give anybody else chance to take you to the end. So I have to hear anything like, honestly, I feel like if it's even if it's a situation where you think you can beat them. I feel or even if you don't think they played a very good game. I think the the best way to win jury votes to like, look, you're great competitor. I don't know if I can be you. I think I needed to get you out. Like, that's all you need to say. Even if you're like, I think I can win. I'd say it the correct? Way to do. It is to queue it up. So you don't hold them in suspense. You get up say candy. I'm really sorry. I love you so much, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, give her some time to say her name, give her some time to accept it to to process it. And then say I vote to Vic you and then everything's fine. But man, it was so brutal issues cry. How much she wanted? It. You don't see these celebrities leave the house crying. That was like you was clear that she wanted this. And she was working at it. And it just. I can't talk about it anymore. Do you think that she was being honest when she said to Julie Chen that she would have taken Ricky to the final t because she she said something I'm pretty sure about affect like did me. So I think she might have. But she said it was bad move for Ricky to knock caress we're taking into the end. Candy nine zero. But but no, I said this last night. The candy didn't try very hard not to lie in the house. And the fact that she gave him her word. I did I did think that she would follow through with that and take Ricky. So I do believe that would have been the case which would have been interesting to see given how hard hours fighting to keep her in the game. That would that would definitely have ruined their friendship. I think I wanna talk about some of the other parts of the finale, let's talk about the good and the bad. Let's start with the good the good. We had some fun comps tonight brand con funk cons. Yes. I enjoyed them. I still think that the final h is a little too easy. But these are celebrities. So you know, what I'd rather them get more answers right than wrong. And even then some people have problems with it, really fun. I thought veto competition was great again, non Ertl's. Actually forgotten. They hadn't showed the final five H O h. And like. To me that was like a week ago. So right was fine. The viewing competition. Yeah. Yeah. The veto competition was fun. That was something. We really seen before. I think we've seen since big brother three. They got the block mentoring. We said Taryn that that should be the we should do that. Again. We said this is the only good competition on the whole season. They should bring it back and look. Yeah. Looked really good. But we had we had DNA crawling under the laser which I loved followed immediately by tamer doing the scream when the flow. Right hall into the lasers. This is my favorite competition the season, really fun. And then the little mini celebrities. That was so funny with the little kids I smiled, and they were trying to make me smile and yet I. At work. Exactly. I will also say the good, I think taymor Braxton when I came. I don't think we talked. We talked about the fact that she gave it up to Tom, and Kate I couldn't beat you. But then they said, what are you regret? And she said something did not think she was capable of saying she didn't own her behavior. But she said, you know, I think I was to emotional in the house, and I let best of me sometimes unlike over I the heavens opened up, and I was like, oh my God. Thank you so much for saying that because I I needed you to say that if I was a juror like to own some of your extras and say that was probably I'd like to have that one back and she did. And I was so happy. I didn't think she was capable of doing. I don't wanna be hyperbolic here. But have we ever seen at any of these shows one person? So great with the jury and the person there next to so bad with the jury questioning have we ever have we ever had two million? And big brother. It's good. That's a good one. I the questions go, and they here's the thing too. They were really open ended question, they they weren't anything specific. And then we need to keep this in my nigga. Chairman. We're thinking about it was gonna win the because none of these jersey. I thought if they came at tame are that she was going to let them have it. I thought if if they came at her that she was going to get defensive, but none of the questions the civic. It was just like what was your best move. What did you regret? What are you proud of things like that? So I think in in that kind of a format it really reward rewards the first one with the biggest personality right because again, they have to prepare them ahead of time. They're not allowed to just answer a question. And and they went in with five people still in the game. So it couldn't even remotely be specific. Rickie was so bad, and Tim are so was so good in terms of how they answering the questions, and you always want to put the the person s you asking for a reason, and you wanna give an answer that sort of like what they want to hear or at least has to do with them. Ricky was asked the question of by Natalie Murray, what was your biggest regret in house, and he said not winning the slaughterhouse competition, which like what who's that impressing who's that pressing? Painting for a vote that you already have. Maybe it was it was it was perfectly represented who Ricky is because he's a very he has social anxiety. He's a very introspective guy. And that's why he thinks so deeply about so many things and also has trouble getting that across to other people. So his answers were very introspective. They were all about him. And what he was thinking and how he was operating in the house, whereas tame Mars answers all about the jury and how she related to them. He was telling his own story. And she was telling the story of the jury. Well, I wish taymor had done a little bit of better job. Excel. I wish you a little bit better explaining her game to the jury during these these times, but she did a perfect job playing to the jury. I like to see people really like a own their game and understand like why what made them get to that point. So when they're asked like what was your big best move. You can actually I don't feel like she or Ricky answered owes your best move, or what was your worst move or whatever in an accurate way, which I thought was their best or worst movie. Instead, they kind of just said random things, but then like played to the jury, and I thought that KMart did a great job of playing the jury which is so important. So I wanna talk about that question. So Tom green s what was the best move that you guys the card at it? So Ricky Williams says his best move in the game was not freaking out the time that he was on the block which was the worst possible answer because it's almost. Hey by the grace of Tom green, Ricky Williams state in the game. Ricky Williams is claiming ownership of that move Taryn by it was really Williams. Not freaking out was why Tom green used the veto to save him that time exactly. And again, it's focused on him in his internal away from Tom who's asking the question. Exactly. And I think that I think the Jonathan is probably looking in this question for an answer of its when I manipulated the women to take Jonathan out. And I think that Tom is looking for something involving him. Like, it's you know, we had a great battle Tom, and you were the one that was magnum enough to let me get through. And that's really that's what one me the game. It's it's your move to keep me in the gay something along those lines. Probably what Tom I really wanted him to rob to bring says. I wanted Ricky to talk about the Jonathan moves getting getting the graph which over and back stabbed locked nil. Doc, nil got all three of those votes. Maybe if he if he would own his stuff there, and he just like it was it was it was terrible guys it, really. And then also we had Tom ask the same questions tame are what was what was your best move in the game. And that's when she says to Tom my best move was taking out the two people that were going to win the game. It was common Kato as we as we've talked about. But on his question, which again shea shades of Todd with John Rubare shades of Malcolm with Cochran in survivor caramel, and and to do that it was really. Such a solid. Great move. I can't speak highly enough about the jerk performance. It was really great to the point where I shaded her earlier in the podcast for green with Taryn about teamers chances, but Liana was on Twitter going. So tame is absolutely killing these questions. Ricky is also there. Yeah. And you know in fairness to Ricky he's a guy that suffered from anxiety. Now. Now, he's on live television answering questions with people that are mad at him probably not his ideal circumstance where taymor is a TV host. You know, she's. Way better at this than than Ricky Williams. The professional athlete in low. Yeah. I do want to say in in in watching Ricky throughout the season and being somebody that was impressed by his game play and disappointed in his social game. I actually did appreciate his final speech and sort of explaining who he is. And owning the fact that he has a lot of faults and saying like, I am just kind of shy. Nerdy guy that has issues with this know, people are in 'perfect. And I did I did appreciate that. Obviously. This is not the time for it. The jury is not going to understand anything that you're saying and it has nothing to do with the game. But I think I understood Ricky a little bit better through final two speech at the end. I thought was his best moment of the now where he he was offense to the point where I started to get a little bit of nervous because I was like all if they're if they're wanting to vote for Ricky he finally gave them. An avenue to do. So, but then earlier taymor speech in the final two. I thought was absolutely wonderful as well. Because she talked about the fact that, you know, hey, she she let the jury have ownership over her because she's like, look I came into this house, you know, my life. I lost my job. I I had a rough time lost. My husband lost this last that and you guys really you brought me back up, and she left the jury like own her to the point where now they have some ownership over taymor. Like like, if we crown her we're making her better again kind. Yes, exactly. So I really feel like she just nailed it all the way around I feel like she must wash survivor because this is something that's happened. A lot on survivor lately where the jury speeches. They always have this sort of like, hey, these are the problems have gone through in my life. Me moment like. Like the last five seasons of survivor since Jeremy I think it's all about like the big story behind who you are in the hardships you've gone through. And we don't usually see that on big, brother. But I think Mark and abroad it year. I'll be interested to see if she if she watches. Okay. All right. I thought that Tom green when he had to vote I thought that was a fun moment where he's paused. This is a tough decision for tweeting. Damar? And Mickey that was very funny. Sorry. He chose the person who made him back as we know when he had his arguments with tame taymor. They shared some knowing understanding looks about how they were doing this for TV. Well, you talked a lot about the time that Ricky Williams told Tom green that he wasn't funny. And he shouldn't be in comedy also. Yes. Yeah. Kato? Also did not getting any. What was Kato kaylin even talking about tonight when he was going like? Cut his Mike get baby Kate allowed here. Oh my God. Baby. Kato was spot on them. My god. I couldn't believe the Kato did adad joke when he walked up to bikini box. I can't get this thing to start. I'm like, you can't believe he did it dad. That's all he does his dad jokes. But like I was like now finale don't do it. Now. Also, Tom one hundred percent was trying to rub it in everyone's face, including the final two didn't know yet. Like, you know, things are really hard in the house. But then I got out of the house, and I saw everyone talking. Yeah. I saw how much support I had. And you those fans they're just so great that they love me so much don't they just don't they just got the Americas favorite player? Yes. And again, like I feel like this was so Representative Tom was where like I feel like I might have this issue to where like it's hard for me to accept compliments in a non awkward way. But like, Tom winning America's favorite. He was just like. Thanks, guys. That was I really like this. Thank you, so much really appreciate everything like crying. And being like, oh my God. And Thomas just like, oh, thank you. Tom is all about tell don't show because he says his emotions, and that's part of what what was an issue in house. Like is this guy being series of me because he's saying these things he mocking me like what you said. Totally see like reading it that way in the house. Totally there is some interesting taymor, and Tom really the two people in this season that really I feel like we're trying to or at least thinking about trying to entertain the person who's sitting at home the person who's sitting watching the live feeds, I think that they were the Joe, no Thomas taymor jamar. I'm starting. Does said trade thing. If I said Cato Cato might have been thinking about the president. But he was not delivering. But honestly, I like, my friend steepness on Twitter was like taymor gave us Jif, and memes and soundbites diary rooms and strategy and positioning, what more do we want in a big brother to winter builder winter? I'm just I'm so happy with this land. I'm like it's like Christmas. It's not often. I get what I want. I'm Alex TV. Rob. I think you're onto something though, rob in terms of, you know, giving the producers what they want in terms of being in the diary room. Getting a lot of diary rooms on the episodes. Being an entertaining presence. Ricky was the complete opposite. Like, Ricky was not in the episodes. He was not giving the producers what they want low low was entertaining. But unintentionally, and she often pissed the producers off I think that it like the edit matters a lot on this Levin. Both in terms of this liberties washing in in the fans reacting because the is very influential to the fans, even the life eaters are influenced by the quite a lot. And so it makes a difference. And if you don't if you're not able to give a good entertaining confessional Abebe fun in the house than I do think you're going to have a much harder time winning the season. A lot of talk of everyone saying who do we want to represent our season? And I think that if they watched the episode, and they're seeing some entertaining person, you know, who's really telling the narrative of the show, and then you see someone in the background is really not a part of it. You want that person who's telling the narrative to be the the the person who represents their show, and these people no TV, they know entertainment. They. No, you know, what the narrative should be. And so that's kind of that totally influences how they vote in the end Ricky on the other hand like she doesn't know TV to the point where he's getting half the diary rooms of someone like taymor. He's so quiet in the diarrhea. I think the only way someone like Ricky wins the end if he's up against a really caustic personality someone like Lolo. Although as we looked at things like he may not even have been able to beat her butt because with Ricky it's just shy and it's all about himself, and he's so introspective staring notes. And and he's so small by comparison. And I don't feel like that can be rewarded unless you just outright hate the other person. Final two can you expand on that? What do you mean, he says small quiet, and he doesn't give you a lot of sound bites? And he doesn't he doesn't tell you what he's thinking. I mean, the reason that we have as in the life eaters, really realize what what Ricky. Thinking was up until this point. We're like, okay. I think he's going to take taymor to the flouncy. But we didn't know. And then finally we got confirmation of it at the beginning of tonight's episode that he definitely was going to. But he just doesn't give you a lot and bus ie comparison. He's not on the episode a lot. And even when he's in the diary room. He's so quiet, and like just by definition smaller TD, president did have that one line tonight where he said what a Heisman Trophy winner going in stealing a bunch of memorabilia. That really burned Cato up at Ricky's making OJ jokes. No rights. Gosh. That was like which like fac in Washington. Give it to baby mooch. All right. So we talked about some of the good from this episode that I let's talk about the bad and probably the worst. We are going to oh, the biggest twist of the season is here, and we're gonna we're gonna talk to the mooch. And boy what a what a waste of time to talk to the mooch who was also gonna say nothing every single person mooch. What was it like living with like? Oh, you kidding me? Lolo? Oh my God. What a what a competitor. Oh taymor. Oh my God. What time on a non house guest when it could have been spent on more jury questions on reunion with the actual? When candy came out. It was like ten seconds candy really got to wrap this up. All right. Look, you're not the mood cheer. This. This reminded me like on survivor. Jeff Probst brings up like a fan. Does like throw little interview with the fan. This was like if they took that fans. Stuck them on the stage did a ten minute interview with them ask them about Trump? And then put them sitting next to the jury and had them sit next to the jury when the jury was talking about things, and they're just sitting there awkwardly like they don't belong because they don't. But for some reason, they're on the stage. And it was just weird. I'm at home, and I'm making notes on my no pad. Okay. And then much comes on the show and gives like these non answers to the point where I actually board. And I am so frustrated with the finale where I'm just like, you know, what? Literally, I felt like we were watching CNN when all of a sudden Julie comes back him. Like what about Elizabeth Warren Jimmy cycle? Oh my God. Like, what am I watching? I was about to be like, oh, they change a channel on the wrong. And this went over like a lead balloon August winter. Brent I've other ju-. Julia. She's like, all right. I'm not gonna let you out of here without talking about Trump. And I thought that Juliet asked a pretty hard hitting question of that. She's so she asked him the basically about how Elizabeth Warren said recently that Donald Trump might not survive. Survive his first term in office kind of a hard hitting question. But then into a whole thing there. Do you feel like that Julie asking about that stuff was was worth the having the mooch there? They've tried tried to make magic happen and the same spot twice. And it's just not gonna happen. You had almost the last. Omarosa come up from the audience all my God. That would have been great. We would have got something Mench winter. Not even a lead balloon it. Just like there was nothing here. It was like why are you wasting time with this like, I'm not kidding? I wasn't even aware that that happened. Because I literally fast-forwarded I used to watch this. I was not going to be treated like a stupid. You're watch. I think this is Julie Chen's audition for her next game was going to say on face the nation. Yeah. Do we think that Julie went rogue? And that she was like, hey, I'm hard hitting journalist. We know she's gone rogue a couple times this season. I don't know. It was not it was not great. But we did we did have some some other news involving big brother celebrity today as well. That's what. So we have been following the DNA lo Han catfish saga over this last week or so, and we saw taymor even brought it up on the episode tonight. But Brent do we have an update in the Dina lo Han catfish saga thinking? I think you've been following. Couldn't even be bothered. Apparently, the catfish is is not a catfish the real guy. Yeah. R-texas? What's the what's the update? His name is Jesse the person that we talked about it on the life you'd have to. He did come out after the catfish episode on Twitter, and he posted the same three pictures of himself a bunch of times. And he said, hey, comma, comma, comma, I'm real Comecon, I love Dina and. It was like, okay. This little the commas the commerce. Let's let's chill in the com-. Do they did see why did some I did some more research? I did find him on Facebook. And he had a lot more pictures on Facebook. So I was I was kind of in this is either a real person or he's very good at catfish ING biked a real person. But he's not the person that talking to Dina Lohan. So he's like some guy. No. So here's the update. Yes. So one what has happened is that never believe me? Sorry. I didn't watch from the cat fishing show on MTV. He was all over this. After the episode aired I wanna finding catfish. And so he has tweeted out that he has in fact found the guy his name is Jesse more details to becoming soon he said he teased that the story is actually pretty crazy. There is also there were also some articles. About believe, Michael Lohan. Talk to him on the phone for. Yes. He got in contact with Jesse talks to him on the phone and Jesse said that he had spoken with Leila with Lindsay on the phone a couple of times. So he was hurt. When Lindsay tweeted out DNA stop with the weird catfish stuff like, but I've talked to you on the phone. I still don't know because. Okay. The story doesn't add up when he says, you know, I'm just I'm not a technology guy. I'm old fashioned. Well, he's been on Twitter's twenty thirteen and he's taking like I'm sorry. I don't like the old fashioned type of guy and also in one of his cell fees. He's holding an iphone. And. Healthy of him on an iphone like this guy is not an old fashioned guy who still listens to. He said, here's here's the best part though. They were apparently trying to get him to come on the show on the finale and. And this is all hearsay. But apparently he was like, oh, I'm sorry. I can't like my mom is sick. So I can't fly out which is very unfortunate. If it's true. But it also. It is exactly what a cash, you know, what I mean? But but for the record view belief, he is a real person. And I think we're going to get date. Update on this person. I don't necessarily believe this is the guy that's been talking to. Well, look if Nieve says, Michael Lohan tweeted, the catfish has been caught, but he's not a fish. It. All actually, a great guy just spent an hour on the phone with him blessings Dina. I don't believe Michael Hann borough one. Early suing Dina low hand right now confused me her happy. Literally in a lawsuit with her. So I don't believe for a second that he's like congrats on your new Newport Dina. I don't believe that they have gotten Jesse Nadler on the show. Julie could've sat down had a one on one with Jesse Nadler. Just tell me, do you think Donald Trump will make into another term? I would have been more entertained with that. At least this would have been something that happened on the season. Actually, I liked when Julius like are you guys mad at the mooch only the viewers are? Like, I I I'm I'm over them on this trying to push this. When she said, you were the biggest twist of the no he was not we don't even remember. I mean, technically, I guess he will what was the twist of the season to season with them trying to shoehorn in a safety. Adult. The twist we're busts. With a low bar to be the biggest twist of the season. Oh, man. I just can't believe they were putting attention on the most embarrassing thing. They've probably done, right. All right. We still have questions we feel. We do the question from the listeners. Okay. Let's take a couple of gone really long. But this has been a very fun show. Okay. All right Brent's gonna take his jacket off here gal, right? Getting heating up. Okay. Let's take some questions. Gwen says do we really believe that Jonathan who who've Ryan was before the season? That was that was funny when Julia was like, but you he would hurt of you've heard of Ryan locked. I didn't are you saying that we didn't get famous enough people. Hold on. We get people. We've had quite enough of you Jonathan we're tired of you go away. We don't like you. Go sit at that other table. By the way, I wanted to bring up the fact that Jonathan said on Josh's Instagram, which Taryn talked about a couple of days ago that he would get up and leave. He would get up and leave. It was Ricky and tame are in the final two, and he was still there less rooting for. Hater. Thing where it's like. Yeah. I thought taymor might have some trouble getting Jerry votes 'cause I was looking at that stuff. But now all of a sudden everyone's so happy to win. I don't know what she always bang. He said. This is one from Minto fifty five if you could each give one piece of advice to the players of celebrity where the three what would you tell them? Okay. How about this change the question? Anybody has advice for people going into big brother celebrity three. Yeah. Don't piss off the producers really feel like that's one of the biggest things you could do. This is an edited show like Taryn talks about it does have an impact on things more than that has an impact on social media, which then has an impact on the potential jurors that they're going to continue to do a non sequester jury play nice with the producers, they don't treat you badly. And also try to remember that this is not a jury and a one hundred percent of things that you're going to say maybe say like eighty percent of them leave the twenty percent of the most hostak stuck because if taymor never does the team on Tom Green's grave and Saint somebody might go. He threatened me if she leaves like those things, I think we easily would have predicted or Tarrant would've easily predict I'll I'll of course, you always did Mr. I'm inclined to agree. But I have an idea for a future celebrity house guys if they are listening to this cast all of them are that what they should do is after. A house guest is victim. They should trash talk that house guest around other houseguests and be like, you know, what I don't care if they watched the feeds I don't care if they watch back the episodes. I just hate that person so on and so forth and then go into a room alone. And be like, hey that is all game play. I'm just trying to get them to take me to the final two. You know, I love you. Sorry that I said those things. Jiji is what happens if the cameras are non you. What? Steve. On you. And your with everyone else in the second. You get by yourself. It's like. In on his off the producers with hiring a social media manager to clean up your dirty work yet. Twitter using the Twitter the ipod to do jury manage about like recharges everyone. Look, you know, I had to get you out your great competitor, all sorts of. I think also what's important is leave the negativity out. I just feel like this season was not so fun to watch. And I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that it was so overly negative. Whereas the first big brother celebrity was so fun because I felt like everyone at the end of the day, everyone got along could have fun together. And there wasn't this this like, oh he bullied me. Oh, you know, I'm an trash-talk someone in a room as much as there was this season. That wasn't really in the show too much outside of that one conversation with taymor and Tom green. And I think that the season will age well based on how fun tame our was as the winner. And if anybody goes back and watches it like these twelve or thirteen episodes. I think that it's an e it's an easy watch Tae Mars, really fun. She goes on to win. Nobody's rewatching the live feeds of it. So the word the most unlikable things about the season are all going to I think fade more and more from the memory with time. And I think the things that were fun about the season. I think of the things that will be remembered moving forward. It's like the thing we always ask are you going to have a great season with the so-so or Iki winner. Rather have a great season with a so-so winner. Association with great winner like beaming nineteen and I hated it. But then we got a great ambassador at the end for the show to the point where I was screaming embassador. Yeah. I mean, that's I was saying on the round table last night that I was rooting for taymor after candy because I think that a taymor win would elevate the season a lot more than anybody else wanting to winning season. And I think I like I think it has. And I think that it will and. No, this was not the most fun season to watch throughout. But but I do think that this win. I think it means a lot of good things for the show moving forward. And I think it means a lot of good things to remember this season by because taymor is such a fun winner in a fun character on the show. So I was I was very sad. But can be lost. But I was very pleased with the clear, I'm not comparing the seasons of big brother nineteenth people in the chatter are coming for me. This is this is not bigger than I can meet people were playing they all wanted to win. But while most of them wanted to win they really wanted to get into the game. They're trying to position themselves. Well, it just some of the negativity gut so point where it wasn't fun to watch a wife beater at times. And that's what we do. So it was a little rough to watch. But overall, I mean, given how hard everybody played and the great winter. We have at the end. And I mean to me, it's it's I think it's like a fine line. Like what rob says it's gonna h okay. Let's go talk about Marietta. How awesome is that Tom green Canadian one America? So congratulations. Congratulations, Tom green. But a year end it. Yeah. Canadians are have one hundred percent average on being America's favorite when they go on the show any Canadian from now on the the opposite of a curse if you're Canadian and you go on American big brother, you will win favor. That's how this now. Disticts? North America, rob, so yes, America's favorite. Now. Do we do we ever get clarity on the rule of if you are the winner of the season? Can you also win the fan favorite? Is there is there any possibility that tame are won the fan favorites we ever get last season. There was Alison gratin or was trying to clear that up. But then Grodno did say that if the winner can win America's favorite, but she did not talk about it in the past tense. I think that the rule used to be the winner could not win. I think they have since changed the rule and now the winner can win America's favorite. Okay. Tom green and the end, and he would have won the show. I think you would want America's favorite as well. Yeah. Yeah. I really whatever. The producers wanna do. Okay. All right. Was there? Anyone Ricky could have won against Anthony Scaramucci. Yeah. Natalie even Marie I this is this is going to stoned a hot take. But. Based on the way, she acted throughout the finale and the season, I think he has a fighting chance against DNA not that he would ever take her to the end. But Dina was such a like vacant stare of a person on the stage in didn't know what she was doing what she was talking about her finally gonna are you really going to work her as the weather. Ricky wasn't good though at the two people sort of meandering. So it goes down to then already passed pupil. That. Like DNA does even worse with the final speeds win takes Ricky. That's when it's just me. Like, I feel like the five guys are locked in on denied, Tom and Kato one hundred percent, go Dina. I think Jonathan one hundred percent goes denied. Goes Jonathan I think Joey goes with Jonathan and candy is one hundred percent for DNA as well. I think so I think that six completely locked votes for Dina's. I think Lola was his better shot whether he would run are we should we'll find out. Okay. Megawatts. Can we talk about lo-lose face when Tom one I wasn't keyed in on that that anybody that? I either see again they had a shot. So again, Tom didn't react. He knew it was coming. At him. I still so mad that they do this. They don't give us the wide shot when they announced like we need moment. God, you know, what I did? I did. I think I do remember it is totally off my memory. It was vision. But I think I think that she just was like, I think she's just started yelling and clapping like she was happy for him. But I if you pay attention to her face, you might see the terror in her eyes. Okay. But like I said she kind of predicted this is going to happen. She she thinks because of his late night antics. Okay. All right. Let's see Gwen was what point Ricky. No, he lost tonight. I don't think he did votes. Started coming in. Yeah. Okay. BBC's? Brent congrats on winning the draft end. The stock watch so break, congratulations. You win. You will won the draft. You took tame are in the draft at what what pick. Did you take taymor? I took her with my first pick. I was it was the fourth pick overall. But my my I take my first pick overall, I take taymor Braxton at the time. There was a lot of consternation on Twitter that she might have quit the game. I was saying I. Yes. Member that her and then video with echo was missing. Vegas. Was it real Vegas for sure that was also with the? Came are cheat. She slammed the door on the. Yeah. The breakdown. Yeah. She quit. Anyway, I took her with my first pick. And then I also won the stock watch this Tarran wants named his team somebody, please stop me. Not there yet brand ten win the row, you're at one. In a row six. All right brother last season. I don't even have a streak going. What are you talking about? This is the most recent big brothers twin rather winner. You want? Out left. And right. Yeah. Sorry. Yes. I got Paris, right? I remember I got fired. Let him have his moment. Let them have. Okay. Did you say that you won three things though this season? Brent I won the draft and the stock watched and they want to stock watch last old thing. Okay. Big brother candidate. I will say I think this is the happiest I've ever been to lose to Brent. Saying a lot. Happy to lose. If candy had one game. I don't care. I mean, I did end up have in my draft. I wanted her to win. And I work last night when we were on the show, I was buying candy stock left, and right because I thought she was stay shoe hours later Mitch right after Ricky the diamond room, Alison he's talking about evicting candy. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Really? I guess I guess it wouldn't have mattered because rookie won the final choice. But maybe candy would've won it. You know? Yeah. I know who knows who knows. Okay. Let's see if we have any anything else. Okay. All right. Here's one in Tarrin's defense. BB says. Kinda sorta was a miracle. LL who would've thought that Ricky would cut Lolo so coldly have terrible speeches and tomato would be so forgiving tear. Would you say that this was ended up being a miracle tonight? I wasn't a miracle. I think I would later come to say that I think tame is the favourite coming into this. I think that I mean. Yeah. A lot of things lined up like Lolo, not news moment may have a final two and Ricky winning. I think help to the way that he cut Lolo. I think that she doesn't win unanimous. Yes, she doesn't even Anna, sleet, if he doesn't cut low. I think he gets at least Lillo Natalie. So there were things that lined up for sure. But I think this was the most likely outcome after the events of the weekend happens. Yeah. What would you say was was the thing? That was the biggest X factor that got us to this point. Was it was it? That that was the jury's opinion on taymor was a tame ours performance. Was it Ricky being so bad? Was it Ricky mismanaging take taking the Jenga board apart? I think that if I had to point to like the two biggest things that lined up. I think that we talked about when tamer one h wage that that was a really bad move. And I think that Tom winning the next h really bailed her out from that bad move and really set the game up. Exactly how she needed to be. If Tom doesn't win that h wage, then the athletes, retain, all three of them, and and then Ricky's never taking taymor. He's gonna take Natalie or whoever and then so that plus Lolo pulling Christmas and not telling Ricky she wants to go to the final two of them. I think those two things are probably the biggest things that lined up fourteen. Okay. I just also want to say just just one one more time with the you know, indefens-. Of the updates from from the feeds. I have a ton of respect for what you guys all do with covering the feeds, and especially when you covering things on a daily basis like what Taryn has to do. It's not an easy thing to do. And just because something is one way on a particular day doesn't mean necessarily gonna stay that way. It's like reporting on stock market or the weather or anything where it's cold. It's called today. Doesn't mean it's not gonna be eighty degrees tomorrow. And I'll also say that when we started the live updates. They used to be like ten minutes long because I would bitterly just like read out of the. Happened. And now, we try to have more fun with it. And we we try to make bold calls. So that we can you know? That you were not Vinci fencers in about. I was I was expensive in the fact that I think that at one point I said everybody was drawing dead except for candy or Dina. I like, look, you gotta you gotta have fun fun with it. It's not. It's not an easy thing to do clear. I'm having fun with it to rob. I think you know this. But I'm just. I always speak to the audience audience. If it didn't play. Well, I'm sorry. But I literally having fun with Taryn like he turned his, right? Like almost all the time. So like the one or few times that he's not right? I try to pull those. So that I have to give me something. Otherwise, why am I here you're here? So that when you try to pull it I full the tweet where you say, well, Karen, I'm in Clinton. All right. What we end on this question Felipe is this one of the most satisfying and things in recent big brother as much for Tom in for candy. And let's be careful with week some people rooted for Tom and candies people root for different people. You gotta give it to tame Margie sling for clearly being the star of the season, even to that unanimous vote of the no liquids faces were rice lis-, and I'm sure that there were people that would that are that are not happy with the outcome. But I feel like that based on everything that we saw I feel like that. This is the best ending of the possible endings that we had. I don't know how many people were rooting for Ricky victory at the end Tae mar love her or hate her. She entertained us and was a fun winner to have at the end of the season. And so I think this was the best case scenario. I think it was great Taryn. I'm thrilled. How to me it was overly satisfying? I can't he ending would have been wonderful. But like to me like. This be like, let's be real like he didn't do much like that'd be honest. I'm not as I I'll take the tape win over the candy, Wayne. I mean, candy look seem like the nicest most respectable same person that was there. But if we were like if candy one tonight, I think I would not be as excited as I am with the taymor win. Game. You're dead to me. Also, like what we have like two weeks ago on the life stream on the on the round table. We were giving candy like twos and threes because we were like like issue even playing the game. Like, we didn't even know what she was doing it. Now. And she came along came alive. But martha. Langbo not causing drama and not getting involved, even though people were desperately trying to drag her into the drama. She she ended up being sort of like the. The tallest blade of grass of of the bunch. But she had one I think we'd be all saying. Wow. Candy that strategy with amazing. She laid low just like we always say to do. And then she pulled it. It was fun. It would've been would've been like. Nice. Nice start. But at least taymor good in bed. It was it was a much more fun ride with taymor. What I was going to say is I actually kind of conflicted. I would've loved the candy win. However the way that this played out. Where candy was victim. Like, it broke my heart to watch. It was hard. It was emotional. But then tame are winning was like this big excitement thing. And I do I went on a roller coaster, and I kinda love when that happened as much as I hate the feeling of gla losing of the candy. Just like the fact that it evokes much emotion me and brought me on that roller coaster. I do think made for a better final episode than if it had been just kind of like just the pure joy of candy winning. You kinda you have to get taken down before you can get brought back up. Okay. So I do this. This might have actually been the best outcome. Okay. Gimme your amazing race team for from celebrity big, brother. Let's who you putting on the amazing race. No, not matoco. You've got. The friendship. You've got the story line of people were. Would fight with each other so much. No, no, Natalie, even Marie and Lolo seriously such a great combination because there's so many elements of like like it's odd couple where is the straight man to tame our is hot mess. Action. Wildness any great like reality TV couple or pairing. They have to also fight with each other. That's key. They always get along with each other. And are always best friends. That's not that fun to watch you need to internal conflict. Also. Okay. We'll say I I didn't joy, Cody, and and Jessica on the amazing race because they were so nice to each other. Because I do like people being nice to. But if it's. If it's amazing race pairing. And it's just like two friends. I don't wanna see two friends being nice to each other. I know I wanna see them fight. You wanna have a little bit attention. But also the friendship and the fine. A. Yeah. I think it's the calls that fight that. I don't like as much I have to say lone ranger in the shot has it. Right. I think it would probably have to be my second choices Rawson meta the cousin. Airport. Okay. All right. What what a life? We lead on the big brother podcasts here so much fun. Let's quickly talk about what's what's coming up before we wrap this all up tonight. Bachelor bachelor cult in is. That he's getting closer to finding love and Lolo is a so far look at him zig and closer and closer. We'll get the wrap up from aiming Haley on our wrap up seeds and then oh look at this David Bloomberg. Jessica Lewis are back for a y blank lost season preview, so tier Jessica Lewis talk about her old buddy David Wright, coming back for survivor, thirty eight of course. Oh, the love know it alls are back by popular demand. Not really. Gabby said, hey, love know, it alls come back. And we said Gabby will you can make your Valentine's wish come true. So listen to Gabby Piskorski with Stephen perspec- and myself on the love know, it alls how about that very exciting. And then Nicole sister Nino, and I talked about all of the eighteen new players got a lot of survivor content coming your way right now. Because people on read it said, hey, where's all there's not enough RHA p preseason content? So we're dropping a shock-and-awe on you right now. Two and a half hours with me and the call going through the cast of survivor thirty eight and be on the lookout for more survivor podcasts coming for me sometime tomorrow beyond look out for that one. Of course, all of this podcasting everything big brother that you hear everything survivor is made possible by the patrons of robs a podcast, we greatly. Appreciate your support five years going. A strong. Rob webs. Adt com slash patron. For more information of how to be a part of our podcast patriot community Robbins web. So that come slash patron. Okay. What what a great job. You guys did once again in this sprint not the marathon. But the sprint of celebrity big brother twenty nineteen. How do you feel at the end of the season? He's weird. Feels like it shouldn't be over feels like I'm doing enough day tomorrow morning, kind of just feel like that. Of course, we have big candidates seven coming in the first week in March. So we don't get a lotta time off and on excited for that. And should be should be a blast. So I can't wait. I hope they do another celebrity big brother next year to me too. And I think they will give them look at the ratings everything is so I feel I feel really confident about although I've been off the numbers were good for BBC eighteen and went away. Yes. Or no. I would also say that they could do an all star season with the same format. Yes. Well, that would be ideal. I think for. If they wanted to do a big brother all stars in this format of like a three week all stars. Where I don't know if the great the great of the greats would come back for ninety nine days in any given summary, but you know, could could you get the, you know, the cream of the crop for three weeks. I think you could. These people you can get a will. And then Geesink. God that would be so amazing. I'm sorry. I'm like getting excited about it. And I think I think they would come back for three is that something you want? Well, you'll never gonna get it. They've they've all said if they get paid enough they do a regular season. I see they're just not interested in paying them what they want. And I don't think they're going to give us what we want. Okay. And then did Julie say tonight that we'll be back in the summer for regular big, brother. Right. She did. She did say that. So did did the show over get picked up though. Did we ever did we ever see that officially like that? There was a pickup for big brother Twenty-one. There is now. Remember seeing the casting call notices and stuff. See an actual. I don't remember seeing actual thing. That was like, hey, we got picked up to Ray on it. So be on the lookout for that big brother Canada casting or the cast probably look for that around the first of March or so with this show premiering on March seventh. I am excited to say that a risk Cox will join me to talk about the first episode of survivor on our first feedback show during these -vivor seasons. So be on the lookout for that. She was on location in Fiji talking to the thirty eight players if you haven't watched her interviews with everybody, of course, also check out I one out as well. With candidate knows what to do we want more risk Cox, and they give us give it to us. Okay. Well, they don't stop the twists and they don't add up. The epicenter everything. But no, I'm excited for big really Canada. And something else that people should check out between now and the start of big brother Canada. Get a nice big nice few weeks of break checkout. The block you mentoring that we mentioned. Yes. Like, Tom green drinking coffee. Go to Robert's website. A b three four the big brother three a block mentoring Taryn and over is twenty three hours turn something. Like that. Twenty four twenty three hours going through everything from big three Connex season, very important in big brother history. They outside a laser competition. Yeah. It ties in very well. Because this is kind of big brother three is where it all starts and big brother celebrity to is where it finally comes together. If you know what I'm talking about is what I'm talking about. Slash bb. Three to check that out in our audio book store. All right. Where can everybody find you find correspondence between now and the start of the next season? Brent you can find me recapping rupaul drag race, we have finale this coming Friday. I'm excited to be doing a podcast with Mike bloom and Liana Boris about that you can find me on Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, basically, anywhere at one lucky gay one stalled out in e and Charon what about you. You can find me on twitch twitch TV slash Armstrong Twitter at Armstrong, Taryn and Instagram. Taryn underscore Armstrong. What about Melissa by knee on Twitter and on Instagram? It's most with three as three as okay before fun. What your new on Instagram? Now, I'm old on Instagram. I just never said it before. Batory in grave insta- credit. 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CBB2 | Saturday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 26

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CBB2 | Saturday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 26

"On drums. Yes. In sandy. H. Geez. You know, the reason? You know? That he could do to Morrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our alive feet update for January twenty sixth. I'm heroes during our strong end. With me today, sleep. I'm good. I am happy that this whole Moshe thing is behind us. We get mooch passed it and talk about the new landscape of those. Yes, the mooch is is now the voldemort of celebrity big, brother. We are never going to mention the name ever again. That's pretended. Did not happen. Yes. He who must be named. I think that that's a good rule. Although I guess I should update you on. He did do an interview with ET after the episode where he said that he had a departure date going in. He did not know ahead of time. What the narrative of the twist would be that would let him leave. But it was according to him. He was like an Easter. Oreg? Kind of scavenger hunt kind of thing and on the season. And he thought that would be fun. So take that for what you will. If you wanna find the interview just search for it on the whatever, I don't know there's a link on Twitter. But that's reporting. Mike bloom is going to interview him also get a little bit of inside information from Mike knowing what we all know. So. All right. Well, we are here to update you on everything that happened yesterday on the feeds and that includes some of the things that happened before the live victim. So we're going to rewind to the start of the day on Friday tame, mar and candy they made up a little bit little bit as as much as taymor and anybody can make up knowing that this is going to deteriorate at some point. Yes. So when taymor makes up there sort of two different ways, it could go you can tell obviously she's and this is going to completely fall apart later or she seems like she's genuinely trying even though it's probably gonna all fall apart later. And I think this was one of those circumstances where felt like she was trying a little bit. So I will give her kudos for that. I don't know how long it's gonna last. But definitely they made up. Yes is a good way to put it taymor and Natalie had conversation as well. Tame are really. Looking at my notes conversations that happen to and I've got Tim Arteta, mar taymor taymor taymor. And I've got like a couple of Tom's. So damar talked to Natalie she is suspicious of Tom and Kato. She is not not really pleased with them. They don't really talk to her. She's kind of suspicious of them and the so-called the lions and deal that's been made. And she feels like she's not a part of it. And she's not super happy with it. However, she does agree. Okay. Fine. I won't vote to Vic candy that wouldn't be nice. And I got a vote with you guys and all of this stuff. So I'll go along with it. Yeah. She said, I'm not going to be a mean person. I was like, okay, that's new. So we're gonna try this today. But yeah, I think she she realizes that all her lines about one way her in candy made up and so she's going to go forward with that. But I think what I really love about the season is the fact that so many of the alliance apart from the, you know, the or maybe the three girls with low. Natalie and Tamar, everything is fluctuating so rapidly. And I think that that's probably why tame our feels a little bit an easy with the two guys because everything is just changing so quickly and nothing is really solidified, especially between the women, and Tom and Kato. Yes. And it's funny. One point Natalie says Jonathan he just has to go just like Shannon had to go. Because again, they all watch the first couple of Minnesota of the first season of celebrity big brother and definitely didn't finish the season where Shannon and then came back to bite Ross. Because they they really they haven't learned that lesson there hasn't there hasn't been enough of that learning. No, this is like, you know, they started reading the boy cries wolf, but then they never finished. It be like, oh, you cry wolf and people come. Yeah. That's how it works. Yeah. That's how it goes. So that's definitely what they're operating on because they didn't finish the season in squatter. Yes. Tom, Cato talks. Tom did spend more time during the day trying to make this flip happened. Like I felt like the way to make this happen was to go to Dina and try to convince Kato with denial. Let's all work together with DNA, and Jonathan and let's bring this together. Unfortunately, there is no way to convince the women at this point. He would have had to drop them which Kato seems unwilling to do. But that was not the tactic. He tried. He was trying to convince Kato to go to the women again and tried to get them on board with this. He did suggests hey, you know, we could just chain. Shit right now. Whatever we wanted to do we could just change it. But Kato was just having. None of it keta was not on board Kato is not team fund in my opinion. No, I somebody who theoretically was team fund living in the OJ house that you know, what did he bring other than the fun? He really is. No fun. So yeah, it was really disheartening to see Tom wants to play the game and want to try and to have Kato put the kabosh on everything just like Kato. And the the worst thing is to is that like if Tom hadn't tried anything. I think he'd being crates putt. But the fact that he tried and failed is like the worst of all worlds. And so, you know, team fun is is not looking super great. According to the attempted flip. Yeah. Exactly. It's the thing. You know, the half-measures just don't work gonna go all the way gotta get the Kato out of the way, though, or you know, I don't know just not try at all. Yes. Tame mar low low and Natalie had a little bit of blow up where tame mar started to get mad because they're talking about Ricky like they can trust Ricky. But they can't trust Ricky because Ricky lied on tame are about being in a room with candy and shore Jonathan and Ryan may have lied to Natalie in low, but Ricky is lying on tame mar. And that is no good. And she cannot believe that they trust him. And that they are trying to work with him because he has lied on her. And it's not okay. Yeah. That's what I thought that phrase met and took me a little while to sort of figure that one out to lie on is. There's a difference. And it's not what you think it means. Yes this. I mean, Ricky is digging his own hole and or does on grave, and so it definitely feels like now this is all starting to blow up sort of almost because it's coming from tame, our if feels like, oh, no, no. It is. Okay. Like, Ricky isn't being this antagonistic person who's causing a bunch of trouble in lying or whatever is going on. But even though he's clearly not playing as well as I said he was doing on Wednesday. So yeah. So. They are they're Lolo and Natalie are just like, oh, man. We gotta do they go, and they talk to each other than they complain about Samar and the little room with the Twitter pad thing, and they're just like, oh, it's so annoying. I can't believe we have to deal with this. And then Ricky comes in and they complain to Ricky they're like, she just doesn't trust you. It's so weird and Ricky's like trying to diagnose her because that's what he does. He's all man. She must have some major trust issues in her life. She must have been betrayed by somebody in her past. We we gotta go solve this and figure this out and have a psychology session. Yes. Yes. And then classic Ricky going to interior someone. But it's definitely crossing over from the, oh, you know, the somebody who was like actively trying to help and help you sort of work out your problems to somebody. Who is just angrily chastising you because you know, he's talking about oh, have you ever contributed to the negativity? That's just an excuse. There were a lot of crazy lines during the I was like I felt very attacked right now. And I'm not I'm not even in the room much like Ricky, I was not even in the room. I've talked about how it's like, he's an angry forceful Taryn show interview. But it's also like he's like, he's a psychologist who is not trying to help you dress trying to make himself feel better about how he's better than you. That's what Ricky is like when he's talking to tame our have you been betrayed in your past. What are you? We all have been betrayed in our past. No, no. That's not tame mar have you been betrayed your what are you trying to get at here? Do you? You clearly have some trust issues. I feel like you have a betrayal in your past. She's like who do you think you are? You are not my man. This is not something that we are doing here. Oh my God. That was such a great ram, and she's just like her voice going up. And I was like. Thank really excited the unleashing that was happening on Ricky Williams and really it's hard to even recap. What the argument was as usually is the case with taymor. But taymor and Ricky especially because Ricky is trying to talk about this deep stuff. The other person's refusing to go there. And then like, then at one point they got mad because tomorrow, it was like, what are you trying to say, I don't understand because she she kept trying to defend herself. And Ricky would be like that's not what I'm that's not. Even what I'm saying. That's not even what I'm saying little water. Are you saying and he's like, oh, don't even with that? Don't even with that. You know what I'm saying? She's I don't know what you're saying. What are you saying? Bait. Push us back on me young lady. Like, you tell me what your engine? It was like not mine. This isn't about me. Crouched over. I swear to God she was hiding how it felt she was not holding lodger. He was hiding in the back with all covers major going on. Oh, man. It's it was it was ridiculous. So I mean that happens. But again, they eventually after a little while as usually the case with Samar comeback together. Taymor Ricky Lolo Nali they all kind of make up a little bit. Like, all right. Like, we're like, they're laughing. They're apologizing like it's all fine. So we get these big blow ups, but they're not usually permanent with Tim ours. Just the, you know, they're going to happen again at some point. Yeah. I guess the animosity does stay, but it's buried enough under the surface that you can sort of pretend like it doesn't exist. But like, that's I'm talking about where it just comes back out. Again. This hug a little bit more fake not fake because I think she genuinely believes it. It's like when you believe your own lies, like I think she genuinely believes that she's making up with Ricky, even though I know that you know, a day from now they're going to be in some other blow up because Ricky Williams has decided to play psychiatrists again. I think the thing is with Tamar where this is clearly just she gets into these kinds of fights with people all the time like that seems clear to me based on her experience in the house so far. And so if you are somebody who regularly experiences, these kinds of blowups, that's very different from somebody who doesn't usually experience those kinds of blokes like usually if you had that kind of blow it's like, whoa. That is that is major relate. Ship damaging kind of stuff, but with Tamar if that were the case for her she'd never have any relationships, so she's just used to like big blow up, but also we're still friends. Right. But there's tension, but like I live with the tension. That's just how I operate. And then we have a blow up, and then we're still friends. Yeah. That's actually a really good point. Her baseline is just different than everyone else says like her baseline is just higher. And so when it arises slightly above the baseline, then it seems like it's crazy fight. But really it's not for her just because it's so normal for her behavior. And so I think the other houseguests are sort of recognizing and that's why I think getting into these fights KMart. It almost seems to be worse for the people were getting into the fights. It's not so bad for taymor. Because now we've all year the house gas are just going to accept that. Oh, this is normal natural behavior. But the person who gets into the fight with her. Oh, well, now, the person is more on the chopping block or we're going to be more targeted than Taimur herself. So it's sort of interesting. It's like when she told Lolo shoes puncher in the throat and lows like. What's exe- us me? And she was like, whoa. It's just what I do. That's the baseline you have to learn that about they mine. So Tom Kato had another conversation. Tom was trying to Tom. I think this was what he was doing. He changed his tactic with Kato where instead of trying to just outright convince him to save Jonathan. He started saying here's the thing though. It would be really smart if the women were playing us in actually working with the men's still, and then they were going to keep Jonathan do what we wanted to do work with those guys leave us out to dry when when we will be the only person that vote to Vic Jonathan and then we don't win h wage we're on the block next week. Just like that. That would be terrible. Wouldn't it wouldn't it Kato that would be a bad thing to happen? Maybe we should start thinking about things like that. And I don't think I don't think man he does he gets into Kato's head and catos like I need to go talk to low right now. I need to go talk to her. Yeah. That did not. Go. Well, I appreciate Tom green for trying another strategy. Because clearly this is a monkey on toback that he really just wants to try and wants to do something about it. And is going to go another go about it another way with Kato. But yeah, Kato not team fun. Not having it. And. Yeah, like, you said is going to go talk this ridiculous. Yes. So they talked to Lolo and catos like low low. You tell me you tell me the truth. You do do not lie to me right now. Are we voting how Jonathan yes? Absolutely. Do not worry about it. The only the only weird thing I understand, you know, tame ours. Acton kinda crazy. But it's just she doesn't really trust you guys. Like she led out way. Too much information. Trying to explain this away it had nothing to do with. But she was like, I know the it doesn't really trust you guys. But we're trying to work on that. And but it's okay, we've got her she's gonna vote to Vic Jonathan she's not. She's not even gonna vote for candy. So everything's gonna be fine. Don't worry about it. And Tom at one point because hey, and Cato had been talking about how low low would never swear to God. And then go against it. And Tom was like, it's just a reality television show. I don't know why anyone would take it that seriously. But then he goes to lily's. So do you swear to God? And she's like, I don't swear to God. No and so- catos like well testify later kid like. Okay. It was like you don't ask people. God you ask them to testify. That's the right way to do. It. Now, it's something new that I learned which I'm super excited big brothers on educational try to implement this in my daily life to you testify, though. Yeah. Exactly. Are you are you currently testifying that you are no longer going to ask people to sorta die, but instead to testify again, this is probably related to the whole OJ trial. He was like I had to testify. Swearing to. God. It was all about the testifying. So that's why. So that that's all cleared up everything everything's fine. Everybody is on board were victim. Jonathan taymor. Does talk to Dina a little bit about the vote. But for the most part, everything is is pretty set in stone here. Yeah. Exactly. And you know, I think that this is sort of where we thought things would end up to know that there was a lot of confusion shakiness this week mostly regarding other things, which then ITO could always influence the vote, but this was sort of an unsurprising result. Yes. So we get the fiction episode. Jonathan is victim six to one DNA is the sole vote to keep him. The feeds did come back after the vixen. There was some tension about that Seoul vote Dina was kind of mad about being the only person to vote save Jonathan. I think Natalie was a little mad that the vote wasn't unanimous. And so there was a little bit attention there. But nothing too much before we get to our endurance. Competition for the H O H, which was a rock concert with an like figure and voice who was hosting it kind of. But also Ryan was hosting it and a ridiculous wig. They were all dressed up and weird rock closing bandannas and they were impossible to identify. So I actually likes this design here. But it was very strange. Yes. So I really really liked this comp although I will say I the exact same confusion about tells like is that what this is H O H like what is going on here. How dare they the sanctity of Oto being used? I don't know if this is something that was left over from the Buddah competition that they had and they just sort of rolled out the same set design. I think my biggest issue. Yeah. Was I couldn't tell who who it took me a long time to figure out the order of the people on the wall. I was on twitch watching the live endurance competition. And we had we had a great time trying to figure out who was who. And the order of them. Difficult. They also had the sleeve so as part of the costumes that they were wearing up on the wall. They had these tattoo sleeves those fake tattoo sleeve things. And I was like oh my God. I I think this is Tom green, but he doesn't have arm tax. So it was just ethically. Confused metal trying to figure out what house guests had armed like full arm sleeve to and then so to make it even more difficult. They got splattered with with like, Google and stuff. And so then even after they fell there was an outline of a human based on the splatter that didn't go to the wall because they were there before. And so it looked like there was still somebody there. It was very very confusing. I'm sure they'll have a fun time putting this together, but it was a pretty good endurance competition ends up lasting about an hour and a half or so and pretty good performance from the celebrities despite a massive amount of complaining. Oh my gosh. So I was loving this. Like, this is so cool. It's going so long awesome. It's an endurance competition and then Joey friggin Lawrence. I was about to just walk all the way to LA and just slap him up there. He was complaining the whole time about how cold it was. And he kept saying things like why can't this competition? Move faster. Why don't they get things going and home? This is an endurance competition. This is the competition and finally towards the end one of the houseguests. I said it told him something about like this is the competition so thankful I was so frustrated with him. He was so annoying. It was like ten minutes in and he was like, can we can this be fester? And thing is Joey Lawrence has been talking all season long about how I just this part of the game is just not my thing alliances and deals and betrayal. I just I can't wait until we get to the end of the. Game. So that we can just do the competition. It'll all be about the competitions. That's what I'm here for to win the competitions. And no alliances. Just if I went to competition, I get further if you lose the competition, you don't get further. That's what I'm here for the second. He gets into a competition. Oh, man this competition is taken forever. I can't wait to get back into the house plan that other part of the game. This is a man why is this taking so long the competitions? Exactly bitching about the competition. Bitching about the fact that it's so cold. We're all going to get we're already sick. I guarantee you. We're all already thick. And then as soon as you know, finally the competition wraps up, and then even at the end he so complaining about how he wants to get back in the house guys. We hurry this up. So we can get back in the house. We're all sick. I'm sure we're all sick. Oh my goodness. Yes. Exactly. That man would not complain this way. It was so annoying. Could we speed this up? To beat up. Well, he's probably just thinking Ono about stuff this eight hours hour long. It takes to put this makeup on my painted on beard, all the good. It's just coming right off. So so Tom is going to be the first one to fall he had talked about throwing this competition with Kato earlier in the day. However, doesn't really look like he threw it looks like he did have some trouble. He ends up having some fun before he falls though, hanging on to the little hand holds before for for. You know, had good like thirty second dead. Hang there. And then he then he goes down pretty closely followed by candy. Yeah. Yeah. It was funny to watch Tom. He it did seem like he was kinda trying to swing his legs back up to stay back up. But yeah, he was just swinging for a while. I don't know why it was so funny. But it was really great. And then I liked that Tom just awkward clapped every once in a while throughout the whole competition, which he's one for awkward clapping at the end of ceremonies and things like that. And so it was nice to to have him sort of be this awkwardly chopping clapping cheerleader throughout the competition. Yes. We then saw Ricky go down. Then we had a whole thing with tame arm, right where she started to feel weak. And she was like, oh, this is too high like like she was rockstar on the rock climbing wall. And she was like, I somebody get me a ladder. I need to get I need to get down. And it was it was a little bit scary. Like, she was like breathing very heavily. She's working on breathing techniques. She was like it seemed like she was hyperventilating. But I think she was just trying to keep herself com. She was freaking out. Wonderful and she finally ends up slipping and she's holding their and and just. And just screams suffer. That's exactly what it was like, but probably ten seconds longer. Yeah. So it's a slow. It was so so amazing because you have the hyperventilating. Kind of freaking out of the ladder they feed for a little bit probably tell her. No, we're not getting you a ladder. And and then she continues to just like more more. They're trying to get her trying to talk her down. And then. Yes, as soon as she let's go and just let out this blood curdling scream. Oh my goodness. It was crazy dramatic, and it makes me so happy that she was for that alone. Even. I suggest you look up the clip. I'm sure it's going to be in the episode though. So don't worry about it. If you if you don't have the energy, but it is it is pretty great. This isn't good competition between the Tom stuff and then taymor. And I'm sure I'm hoping they're going to have some fun with Joey as well. I think I think this is going to be a good HOA wage competition to watch. So tame our goes down DNA is going to end up dropping next making it a lot further than I anticipated. And I think a lot of people were pretty impressed with what she was doing. And then the the final four it came down to Joey Lolo Hato and Natalie I think I was certainly expecting Joey low low and Natalie to do well in this competition did not expect cater to make it this far. Yeah. Completely agree. I think denying Kato were really the two stand outs for me not just because of their. Age. But also because they're going up against you know, a guy who tells Olympic athletes how to work out. So obviously, we know he's fit and Olympic athlete herself. And then not who obviously isn't a wrestler and in great shape herself. So I was not expecting this boot order for sure. Yes, Lolo is going to end up dropping next. Surprisingly and leaving it down to Joey Kato and Natalie at this point Kato is trying to get Joey off the wall Kato is trying to offer Joey deals and Dana who is upset with Kato in particular because she was close with him. Did not know he was going to vote against Jonathan or at least at the very least is mad that he voted against Jonathan and didn't really talk about it is like well, Joey was with Jonathan Dina's just feeling very trae. She's the sole vote to to keep Jonathan. She's feeling very upset. Dna is like no, Joey don't accept the deal. Stay on that wall. And Kato is like, whoa. All right. I see what's happening here. I get it. Okay. Kato is not happy with Dina's interference here. No. And and this is something that is is really important because it influences decisions are made later on. But I say quickly that Lolo did drop because she was worried about injuring her shoulder, which I totally get because she is that's literally her profession is to take care of her body into perform also, I will give her that credit. I thought she had it until she mentioned that she had had soldiers shoulder surgery at one point which is why she Joey is eventually going to use a similar excuse. Yes. So so yes, so Joey. Well, it's weird. Because I it sounded for the brief moment that he accepted the deal. But then said, okay, but I'm gonna see how long I go, which then I don't think really. I really appreciate what you're saying. Kato? I like it. I'm good. This is good. I like the deal you're going to keep me safe. I'm just gonna keep going for a little while though. See how long I can make it. But yes, I agree. Agree with your deal. And then like a couple minutes later. He slipped and fell. So I mean, in my opinion, the deal doesn't count. And I know Natalie was talking about it later that that deal doesn't count. Is it gonna make a difference? I don't know. But yeah, I mean, Joey did not accept the deal in my opinion. I don't think he did either. I think he's slipped and then after he slipped. He was like, oh, yeah. I just couldn't stay up there could risk injuring the things. So. Yeah. Taking the deal and such. It was just nice of him to make the cop. Go faster really really proud of him for that. So after Joey falls Natalie feels pretty safe with Kato. She drops and Kato is our new H O H. Yes. Not who I expected to win an endurance. Look. But you know, what props to him for winning? Yes. Second comp win in a row for Kato. I really feel like he is one of our more likely winners as somebody who's not trash talking anyone, and you know, is not a huge threat. Now is one two competitions in a row starting to become a little bit of a threat. This is great for Tom. I think ES I think so too because. Even though the two skills that KEDO exhibited were reading and hanging around which I think is very on brand for him. It's still puts him at the forefront of oh somebody who's one to calms. And it's the double issue of winning two comps in a row, which I think also adds to to someone's threat level. And it definitely takes a little bit of heat off, Tom. Yes, that said it puts more heat on the duo together. Which is not good for Thomas. Specially if Kato ends up winning veto, and they gotta take Tom in order to take a shot at Kato. However, this puts the two of them in a great spot to pick up some players who are really just floating around if they're savvy enough to do it are they savvy enough to do it. I think Tom might be. But I'm not sure Kato is. But if you look at the playing field, this should be vital H O age for Kato, and Tom especially because you've got Ryan who's got nobody you've got Joey who's got nobody. They've maybe got each other a little bit. But Jonathan was really the. The tie that bonded them together. And they have no other allies you've got candy who still floating around with? Nobody you've got Dina who's got basically, nobody if you approach all of these people offer them safety than you have a six person out of you know. Ten people in the house, and that's pretty good especially considering that you are technically aligned with the rest of the house. So you can basically pick up you can decide which which side of the house. You want to be on? You can basically make your own unknown. Alliance of a six person thing, you can do whatever you want here. Are they going to probably not? Nah, nah. You know? And I don't know if this is because Tom is gonna try to convince cater to do something. Kate is going to say, no or whether or not it will come across Tom's brain to even try to pursue that option. Because I think the idea of sort of pulling together all of the people who are on the outs is it's always such a great option because they're under dogs, and they feel like they have nowhere else to turn. And when you offer a little bit of security and a little bit of olive branch. They grab onto that. And hold on because they don't have anything else. And those are the types of people that you want working with you who you know, they don't have other options. Even if in reality, maybe they do, but they don't feel that way. And so I totally see this being a great move for them. But Kato is still stuck on this whole Dina. Lohan thing where you know. She like like you said said, oh, Joey say up on the wall. And and so does really fixated on that. Yeah. It's very fixated on things and it's hard to turn him away from them Dina. I feel like is somebody. Who'd be easily swayed back on in their favor. Dna should be the last person that Cato is targeting. However, Kato's initial thoughts are I need to nominate DNA because she was trying to prevent Joey from making a deal with me. She's coming after me. So I need to go after her. This is a huge mistake for Kedah. This is bad bad bad news for Kato. Yeah. And I think that Dino was just upset in the moment. And I think that it's something that is you can work around it, and you can get over it. It doesn't seem like this irreparable relationship that then okay absolutely has to target DNA because of what happened on the wall. So it just seems like you said he just fix eights on something. And then that's what he's going to go with sort of regardless of any other new information. Yes, we did get some I thought very encouraging stuff from Ryan. I was thinking about how Ryan has plenty of information that he can use to keep himself safe this week. But I wasn't sure if he was gonna use it because. We saw last week. They were these guys were terrible at using their information. I think we are seeing that despite the fact that Ryan is not exactly the, you know, the sharpest guy in that house. He wasn't exactly the brains of the operation between himself and Jonathan. I think he might actually have better game instincts than Jonathan and might actually be a better overall player when it comes down to it because he without Jonathan's influence immediately goes to Kato after the wage and says, look, I understand probably gonna put me up. I get it. I just let me just say I have nobody anymore. Dial Jonathan's gone now. And look I had I had an alliance with these women me, and Jonathan and the women we were will align together, we are supposed to work together. But I guess they went and made Lyons with somebody else probably like the whole house because they just betrayed us. And now, I've got nobody. And if you keep me off the block, then I promise you, I will work hard, and I will win every competition or I will try to win every competition. And I will keep you safe L try to protect you. I'll be loyalty because I have nobody else. And that's about as good a pitches, you can make especially when it comes from somebody who is as genuine seeming as Ryan considering that you don't really think that he has it in him to bloody. Yes. So I think they're Ryan super interesting to me because I had been I make fun of him only having a couple brain cells. I see him with those cue cards. But I think that this just goes to the argument of the different types of intelligence, and he does seem to have a really natural emotional intelligence. And I think that he is somebody who is so genuine that he either he can't. Lie. I mean, we saw him with the Rio scandal at ended up coming out anyway. So I think I think he can't live. That's why it was a skin. I'm sure plenty of other athletes have lied similarly or but just not such a terrible way. You're right like and getting gone cut. Yeah. So so as long as he's being honest, it'd being genuine and using his emotional intelligence in that sort of way, I think that that is such a great look great move for him. I mean, he did what I think a lot of us would say you need to do in that situation, and he figured out to do that on his own. Also, I will say from the episode the thing where he looked in the mirror and saw Natalie entail Margie their little handshake thing. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Ryan you go. I don't know if it's a low bar. Thing he could like a hand thing. Yeah. So so yeah. So I I it's gonna be interesting to see where Ryan goes. I mean, no there's talk of him being potentially back door this week. I really hope it doesn't happen because I wanna see what else he's capable capable of. Yeah. So it seems like he makes an impact on Cato Cato doesn't seem super interested in getting Ryan taymor and Natalie have conversation taymor is guess what? She's not happy. She's not happy with Natalie for dropping. She feels like she might be vulnerable. Now that Cato is h in Natalie could have won it and kept her safe and Natalie is like, no, no just going to keep you safe. The worry about it got us covered tame like well, who's gonna nominate began nominate Joey, and well, no you can nominate Joey Joey did not take that deal. That is not Joey did not take that deal. That's the thing though. You never wanna be the person that says no that deal is invalid if the other people are saying the deal is valid so it's it's a tough spot. And I don't think Kato wants to even come close to it. I feel like Kato is like, Joey, let's leave Joey off the table. Yeah. I mean, I think whether or not Kato genuine genuinely believes that deal was accepted. I think he still feels like, oh, I need to operate in quote, unquote, good faith and not put him up for those reasons. But I think it's all tied to that. I don't think it necessarily has to do with. Okay. I'm going to go try to pick up Joey because he seems like a little bit of a lone wolf in this situation. It's just somehow tied to this deal that happened. So so that's going on Kato is Kato's idea is as we talked about DNA his other idea for the nomination of his ten mar. Maybe she was on to something. This might have just been the situation though of paranoia. But in this instance, she happens to be correct. But yeah, when she gets on the block, which I don't wanna see her go, but I still wanna see her reaction to being put on the black so little torn here. But I would love love to see that. And and I will say I was kind of disappointed with a cater waiter wage. I feel like he would be boring. This isn't super boring though, I think he's making a massive mistake and putting DNA on the block and with if Dina and taymor stay on the block toward the end of the week. We could get a somewhat interesting vote. We're gonna have seven votes again. A soothing that a third nominee isn't named at some point which means that you need four to Vic. And if we think that the lines in the house stay somewhat similar than you've got Joey Ryan voting to Vic taymor and candy potentially voting to Victoria, mar that's three then you've got low, Natalie and. Rickie voting to keep taymor and voting to Vic Dina leaving Tom as the swing vote. And if if Tom decides to go wherever he wants to go, then he can do that. Or if DNA is able to make up with with Kato at some point during the week, then maybe they turn over and that causes more dissension between them and the women and them in Ricky, and and all sorts of things could theoretically happened. So I'm hoping for that or it could be boring week. But even if it's boring week. Here's the thing eviction is on Monday. So it's gonna be pretty quick. Yes. Yes. Because now the game we're really really kicks up. I mean, I have to continue to remind myself that this is really only three weeks long, and we've already pretty much burn through one week. So seeing how everything unfolds it's gonna go at a crazy fast pace. And I just based on the fluidity in the house that we've seen so far just really don't think that the alliances are going to stay as tight or the the line is gonna stay as straight. So I think that there could be more movement. I think obviously we also have the veto to play. And it seems that with Kato using the veto that I think sort of can spark other people to really consider using the veto because when you see someone do it a little bit of monkey see monkey do. Okay. This is possible. I'm willing to stick my neck out to save save someone. And so we could end up seeing the veto us potentially at some point. And then I don't know who Kato try to put up if he does maybe go for the back door Ryan plan or something else entirely. I don't know. It's it's a conundrum. So we did get Lolo Natalie in Ricky talking as well, they are discussing their plans, they're thinking, okay. So. Can we get him to back door? Ryan. Maybe can we get him to not nominate Tamar maybe can probably only do one of those things we need to one goal. We need to focus on that one goal. They've trying to they're trying to figure out. How do we either get taymor to not be nominated? Or how do we get her to not blow up if she is nominated? It's really a long conversation about tame Mahar, and they would like the back door Ryan thing to happen. But they really don't think it's going to happen. So they're they're kind of they're kind of just letting that one go a little bit for now. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the idea was was floated to Cato at some point today. Yeah. I think what we've seen with Tom is. You know, it seems like when these celebrities do get an idea they want us somewhat follow through with it. And so I think that this is going to be an instance where we might see a pitch. Actually, depending on how they're feeling it could be a bad pitch. It probably will be a bad pitch. I would be here to hear it. But yeah, it seems most likely that we'll probably just get this straight nom. But I don't know we could see something else happened. Yes. So that's really what we're looking at here. I'm expecting the nominations to be at some point today probably early today and then probably veto competition. Also today. Maybe tomorrow. But that would that'd be cutting. It pretty close because the veto episode is going to be I believe Sunday night. Which is tomorrow night. So so h OH I can't remember is it h? Veto would veto is probably going to be Monday this different from their first celebrity season. But basically how that you would usually do it, and that's Eason was nominations and then veto and division. But the veto and division was usually a two hour episode, which would they're not doing this time. So I'm not exactly sure. But I'm assuming based on what we saw today where we got a second veto plus fiction. They're probably going to continue with that format. Although I don't like it very much because it really cuts a lot of things short. So I would prefer. Yeah. They're definitely not doing veto Sunday. No. Because they got the h. Yeah. And they always wanna competition in every episode. So yeah, that's probably it's. I think it was part of Joey Lawrence's contract. It was he gets a new sitcom, and they edit the show to only have competitions. Although now, obviously, we know he also hates competitions. So who knows what he wants. Yeah. Time is so at the very least we're going to veto very quickly probably late today or early tomorrow. And then veto ceremony at some point tomorrow. Almost definitely so be on the lookout for that. And you know. I just hope we get some fun times here. Yeah. I think it will not disappoint, and maybe some fun times that make slightly more sense. Kind of what I'm hoping for. Yeah. Maybe we can we can chill with the twists for the for the time being and just have some fun fun team fund team fund and team real twists, which I can't believe I would even be arguing instead of team cover-up conspiracy twists this just let's see this is one of those things this is like a big brother nine. Let's just kind of forget that it happened. Right. Like, yeah. All right as a society. I think we'll just decide that it doesn't exist. Alright. So that's what we've got for you today. I will of course, be live tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you and everything that happens today on the feeds and then tomorrow night, I believe we will have another episode and recap and everything along those lines, and you can follow us on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn on his on a Boris. 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Sees you know. The ring, you know. Ross said that he could do tomorrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for February twelfth. I'm turn Armstrong. And with me today is a mon-. How're you doing on? Hi taryn. Hi, everyone. I think just was school into Twitter. And I think I just saw. The ruling on the field. Delivered jerseys funny phone fingers and everything you mean for the game. But what you really get is so much more FedEx delivery game day spirit. What we deliver by delivering or someone. Today is the anniversary for rob has a podcast if that's the case happy anniversary to you Darren, and rob course arrest the rest of the H P team. Well, there you go. If it's just Bush that I'm pretty sure I thought Robb respond to that tweet. So this is like a fraudulent, you know anniversary. Well, wishing I'm so sorry, but regardless happy non anniversary if not all right? Sounds good. Here to update you on everything that happened on the big brother celebrity to live feeds yesterday. We do have some stuff to update finally the veto was plagued. So we have an update here. We're also going to get into low lows game across the whole three weeks of two. So we'll talk about Lolo as well. Try to find some value in what she's done. I'm sure there's something somewhere. I mean, I mentioned I picked she's the last meeting room or other draft that I mean, so you know, I'm gonna author try. Optimistic as possible. So that I can feel good about her winning. Yeah. That's too because they wanted to do. So let's get into the day. I first of all. Candy and Lolo got into a little bit of a thing the previous night where candy talked to Lolo about how Lolo has votes in the end she can win and Lolo got very mad about this. Like, no, I I don't have votes. What are you talking about? That's nonsense. Why would you say that? Yeah. That conversation that usually takes place a lot towards that's part of the game. Where, you know, someone's like, oh, you know, you really are someone that could have the potential to win. And of course, that's the worst thing that you want to hear because you wanna remain under the radar and a piece of me is like a piece of feels like damn what what did you actually take actual offensiveness and not like fake in game offense because you. She's such a firecracker. You just never know. Just how are he's willing to take it in terms of expressing her anger. So it was kind of it was always entertaining to watch for me. Yeah. I I love candy did not love this this move by candy to basically, let low low. No, I will not be taking you to the final two and low low is going to remember this which is very important because low low is going to end up winning this power of veto candy did not win there. It was apparently literally a hurdling competition. And you know, when I heard that, you know, my first inclination wasn't even to be of set about it being hurdles, I was more upset with Lolo because she was complaining ever since the feeds came about Phyllis. You had a hole in her chest and feeling like she was just going to die and that she'd never been through something like that before. And I'm like you are in Olympia like how are you not? How is this? The thing that takes you out. I don't I mean. But she's she's been out of practice in a in a way for the past three or four weeks, so fine. But it's just it's it's so weird to me. It's so weird. Yeah. So Lolo is going to have this this win here. And really worst case scenario for candy that low wins it, you know, even if nobody else would have used it on her. There was at least a chance that somebody else with the leverage who would have been more inclined to. To keep her. But especially given this conversation she had with the low, low, low low is very anti candy at the moment. So right away. Tame Maher is going to go go up to Lolo and she's going to. Hey, I saw candy and DNA they were slapping hands. What's up with that? Why are they slapping hands is there's something going down? Are you going to put me on the block getting voted out is that what's going on Lolo? What's happening here? No, no, no. We're good. Like, no, I really I actually really would like to get rid of candy. So now and taymor. Of course, she's she's going to feel paranoid because it's down to that point. And like, I mean, I I would feel the same way if I saw the two of them slept especially if the both of you just lost like with a slap in hand, you slapping, hands for what's what is going on. It was funny Ricky eventually comes in and they're like trying to decipher okay. What could they have meant, by slapping? Probably just happy. They're glad just to have gotten this far. Right. That's what's Crowley. You're probably going on Lillo does tell her in this conversation. You know, I wouldn't look even if I did use the veto. And you went on the block, I wouldn't vote you out. Definitely a red flag here for taymor. Yeah. It should clue her in. But I think that she's just she's just so fixated on not wanting to be on the block and knowing that she's made it this far. And all she has to do is make it to the final four, and they can play in the final three h h that, I guess take certainly things that should be clothing you in your kind of willing to silence those alarms in your head because you're that close. But it should definitely like like you really like. You have to think about who you can be. Can you beat Lolo you beat Dina? Can you be candid? Can you beat Ricky like who do you who do you want to sit next? I know that we know that she wanted little when the Beato she has some of the power right now, she was kind of acting like she had like more than she usually does last night. But. You have to start thinking about that too Justice as think Lolo thinking about who she should be you have to do the same. Yes. So taymor talks to Ricki. And she is talking about how it's clear the low low doesn't want candy to stay. But Ricky do we really want deana to win? This thing. Do we want to be in the final four this? We want that to represent our season. Taymor is going to spend a lot of the night. Very clearly campaigning for his candy to stay trying to pretend that she's not campaigning for candy to stay and. I'm all about I really want her to succeed. Even though it's probably not the best thing for her game. Like if she really wants to take candy to the final two, but you know, I stopped rooting for strategy a long time ago. Just just keep candy ass. Yeah. I mean this. This was not the season for Mr. Terry. This is not your season. But. Honestly, I guess I've come around to DNA sort of taking this as well. I mean, don't at me bitches. I'm sorry. But like, I you know, I sort of see I can make a case for all of them at this point. Like, I really wouldn't be that upset if any of them one sure there are people that I would like to see when more than some of the others. But you know, like, I'm for candy staying if she goes, so be it. If demons stays until the end and end up winning this in the final do so be it if they Mark and somehow get herself in the final two and wins. So be it. You know, like, I'm it's I'm along for the ride. I concur with your with your sentiments. It's not the best move for candidates. They into in terms of team orders game. But you know. I think one of the outcomes I think would be really fun is if if tame mar got to the final two and she. Obviously I want candy to him. But if she can't because she has to cut candy. She cuts candy at the final four takes Lolo. And then and then like makes this big speech about like I had to make myself not liked. So that people would want to take me to the end. A big fan of this game. If she comes out with like a big speech that wins the game. I'd be I think that would be pretty fun. I think that would be like a nice somewhat strategic ending. Yeah. I think that's something that she's capable of doing. Because I mean taymor hasn't had a lot of power in the game in terms of like Kant win. So we don't really see. I mean, she's she won. She just wanted to we don't necessarily see her, you know, enacting a lot of plans like she's social issues been covering her basis. But it would be interesting to see just what she would do because she does understand the game. She came into the game with a lot more understanding of how it works than her than her peers. So I think it's something that she is capable of thinking about and actually doing so we'll see I mean. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind that I think it'd be a bad s way to end the season. And I think that it will be hard people be hard pressed to be like, oh taymor. Never deserved the worst. She just you know, she did the she made the final move. She got. She got rid of Casey if want to me gets rid of Casey. And then pulls the Dan geese Ling, which is make compelling revisionist history and your final two speech that tricks. The jury like that would be so much fun. Exactly. I'm I'm down for that. So so tame are saying that she wants candy is she's trying to imply that candy is the better person to stay to Ricky. She says that Lolo clearly wants candy gone. But so she needs to have a talk with Lolo and Ricky's like. Feel like that's probably not your best move right now. You don't know piss her off that's going to turn into a thing. She's got the veto. Maybe maybe hold off on that. And a little like very much reminds me of the conversation. Ricky had with Tom about talking with tame, mar and taymor is like, hey, I can handle it. It's. It's Tom Ricky really is a all last night. He kind of just. He's like one of my favorite gifts of that guy. You want to do that. Deal with taymor all season long. They were the bedroom alliance. So he's pretty pretty pretty keen on how she might respond to certain situations. So it was very amusing to watch him pretty much walk around eggshells and sort of between a rock and a hard place because the Lolo can be the exact same way Lolo in taymor are two sides of the same damn coin. So. You know, him trying to stay above the fray, but also just have enough influence his best interest. Workout is is interesting manipulation and gameplay to say, the least I actually I actually feel like he's doing a pretty good job here. Because if you think about it heading into this veto as I've been talking about in the updates. Lolo has kind of been drifting away from wanting to take Ricky to the file to taymor has been talking with Lolo more about taking her to the final two. I do think taymor would probably go with Ricky over Lolo. If candy was was not there. But, but it's you know, these are two players that I think that if they fight with each other today the day before the finale the day before they make that decision. They're less likely to take each other to the end because they care about who they sit next to they keep talking about like not wanting people like Dina to represent their season. And so if Ricky is able to stay neutral between the two of them and have the good feelings of both of them while they battle it out on the side. Then then they are both more likely to be like, screw Lolo. She she got mad at me for wanting to keep candy. I'm gonna take Ricky and vice versa. So I actually do feel like Ricky is is. Is having a pretty decent job here doing pretty? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he essentially is keeping taymor cold. But also letting willow Nola glow you one. So whatever you wanna do that. It's your decision to make and the really isn't much that we can say, so it's it's your decision. And at least I mean at the end of this conversation that left Lolo with, you know, with the general notion. Okay. Well, I'm going to sleep on it. I'm gonna play on it. And I guess we'll we'll talk again tomorrow morning. So if this, you know, eventually makes Lolo just ponder and ponder mourner head, and she ends up doing something that team are wouldn't want her to do in getting rid of candy and sparks fly. I mean, Ricky sitting pretty he can, you know, use that to his advantage in think that that's I mean, it's a it's it's also this whole thing about Dino being there visited of this season. Honestly, I have Dina won this game. We would never see her again like Meriva short Meriva is the Representative of celebrity big brother season one and other bits. You will continue to be their Representative of celebrity big brother in. We'll see here come back to host comps. She'll be back on the Facebook chat. And all that stuff. I don't think I don't see Dina ever really come back. That's see her winning. It'd be okay by I'm gonna go. Find my catfish live my best life. No, she she's such a mom. I could see this being like very much like Murray. So like, hey, look, this is my thing. Now like if she wins. I think if she loses she's gone, but I do think she might be around if she if she wanted. Maybe maybe I just I just find her so low key that I don't think that this is her a gig. Honestly, I mean, I could be wrong. But. I guess we just have to wait and see if she wins. I do. But I do think that she would be a good representation of like for the like she's been one of the most positive people on the show with such a negative season. I do think it would be nice. She's she's definitely the least polarizing character and has a game player. She's very polarizing people. That were like, hey, I don't she hasn't done anything. So we were like, oh, no. She's done the perfect game. She's saying she's you know, she's got all the way to the end. She coasted she floated or whatever. So in terms of gameplay, no in terms of a person issuer chart because that's that's really what they're talking about. But obviously be would be the best Representative of the season. I think we're all clear about that. So Lolo talks to Ricki. She says that she really wants candy gone. She knows candy won't take it to the final two. And she has the days down can't he's been studying. And so she's a bigger threat in the final four. So she's considering using the veto on DNA to make sure that candy goes home putting up taymor next to candy. And then they can make sure that they vote to evict candy Ricky's says. I don't know tame Mars going to like that. They do have a conversation with taymor and little. Let's taymor know what she's thinking taymor is very anti on the block. I don't like that idea yet. She she's I've no problem vote can be oh that said candy Dina's come close to winning comps some more than candy has so something to consider Lola's. Yeah. But can't better days. And that's what's coming up. Okay. Okay. But but Dina winning the game that would really suck. Right. That would really suck and little but wouldn't candy winning suck too. And yeah. Right now, it's up to. So they kind of the kind of have a bit of a stalemate here. And they decide as he said, let's just think in pray on it and talk about it in the morning. Yeah. It was it was it was a ping pong match. Because I was I was sitting I was last night washing. This all go down while blinking Horsely. And I remember like after the home shows sort of died down. I was like, wait. So what what are they gonna do? I it was really hard for me to to ascertain the the end goal be summation of that meeting. But lows. Lows them pray. And I guess she talks to God. And whatever God tells you to do this morning, she owned it. So now, we wait. I guess that's that's really what we ended the day with here. We'll probably get a better understanding of who's going to be going home. It does seem very much like it is going to be candy at the moment. Lolo does have a lot more leverage. Really what it comes down to is. If tame all wants to force the issue needs Ricky on her side, and if Lolo is not going to use the veto, she probably will need to get some confirmation from both at least, Ricky and taymor marb. But at least Ricky that they will be voting to Vic candy, and I don't think that Ricky would be willing to go against his word for the sake of candy. So it seems difficult to find a scenario where candy stays unless taymor is able to. Convince Rickie enough that the two of them are able to convince Lolo that they need to keep candy doesn't seem particularly likely right now. But it's not completely out of the cards quite yet. Yeah. I guess work on work on the one that's more inclined to agree with you or has more reason or is more malleable on and then work with the most rigid part of a triangle of and I mean. As far as the way the things have been going on. Now. I just feel like another visit Beatles coming up. So that changes the dynamic. But I I I agree. I really don't think that there really is enough time for them to to really convince I don't even know if team working really convinced me Ricky at this point. I just think that I mean, they all three of them have been slants for so long now. And I think if there's two people that are already leaning more towards one way that it's probably wanna sick that way. Because you know at this point in the game. It's just you got get to the end gets to be in the end. Yeah. Yeah. And again, you know, low low has the leverage here and really it's not in any of their best interests for candidates day. Lolo is completely right. They candy knows the days a lot better than DNA. Does. She's been studying a lot more. I think she is a lot more capable of winning that final HOA JR. And if either Dino or candy win the final h all three of them lose the game hands down. So they should go with the person who's less likely to win the competition. It is again in in Lola's best interests in Ricky's best interest, and in taymor is best interest that candied those not stay in the game. But. You know, that doesn't mean that look these players they're not that great. So yes. Yeah. It's so interesting because I thought about candy being able to win, and I was like, it's very it's sort of similar some Orissa in that they both have not won any competitions. But now it's like that kind of game can work for so many people. But sometimes you have to match your your social game with at least one or two confidence. Sometimes you can't get all the way to the end without getting some power on your hands. And I think if we see candy go home that's pretty much. What her story will be it sucks? But you know. And something else to consider especially after last night the episode. I think was I talked about this last night. I do think that it was kind of bad for Lolo. It was a lot of Lola's worst moments. I think it was kind of good for taymor and Ricky who who had some some good moments rookie was a little less visible. But but I still think he came off decently. Well, and this was kind of confirmed a little bit in the social media. I think we I saw a Jonathan. He liked a tweet that said anybody Lolo previously. It had been no negative about K, mar. And he was negative about like, it seems did seemed like Jonathan was most negative toward taymor and Ricky, however now he's liking tweets about anybody. But Lolo that episode again, probably reminded him of when he was betrayed by low low, and she cried about it and all this non. Sense. That was super annoying could have had an impact. Also, I saw the first Kato inclination here. Also, very anti Lolo specific after the episode air immediately after the episode aired so KEDO I think is exactly the kind of person who would be swayed, but he he goes to watch this particular episode because he knows he's going to be in it. Because the clip show, and then he sees all this stuff from Lolo that he probably hadn't really seen before. And he's very influenced. And now he's liking tweets about antilock. This could make a difference here when it comes to tame our versus low low, I think Ricky probably already was beating Lolo, but but also could make a difference there. Something else that I talked about last night and went into a little more on Twitter is that she did have an exchange with Joey on Instagram where she she tweeted something Joey found it very he was like, oh, thank you. He did a screen shot posted it on Instagram. He was like, oh, thank you. This is. So I can't believe you said this little this is so wonderful. And then in the Instagram comments Lolo Jones, the official Instagram account responded and. Yes. I was like did. I miss something in my dumb. What's going on here? So Joey says, wow, I just want to send his shadow to Lillo Jones for the kind words. Yes, you'll Lolo. They truly mean so much we had a few tense moments in the big brother house. That's for sure. But you're an honorable person. And I respect your passionate, faith and your unrelenting fire to compete zone and so forth. Good luck. And God bless and his final round game. Play Lolo Jones response. I genuinely meant every word and apologized for these tents month for the tense moments. Not everyone will know the moments we had we did have is a house, and that's okay. I appreciate your words. Cry cry emoji, pardon Mogi. Lolo Jones first of all can't use Instagram. She can type things out that are sent on Twitter, not Instagram, obviously, not allowed to view any comments made by anybody outside of the house. So she lives. There's no way that she could have responded to this. I thought maybe I missed something. Maybe something happened that other people would be able to explain nobody is able to explain this my explanation. The only thing that I can think of that. I did talk about last night is this has to be the person running low lows Instagram account impersonating Lolo. To solidify Jerry votes. And why in? Why on God's green earth with Joey not realize? Three you on Instagram in the house doing look you have access to any of your DM's any of your mentions on Instagram. Guardians house seared. What the hell is going on? I love this. I find it. So funny. And you know, what you know what kudos to win a little account. I might need you to run mush it. Obviously, you are way better at it than I am. Is that's that's while. That's really well. I was like Instagram. What was it like it was pay part of her veto win? Was it come like? I know. That's what I was thinking five minute Instagram package. Like, I don't understand. That's that's very that's very strange. I guess it's clear to say that gratin area is now like the final jury member and swaying jury back and forth. And I mean on one, and it's sort of like disappointing because you're just you get so used to the regular version of the brother, and oh, no they need us. They can't even though poison them. The Nikkei can't everything, but that's just how this version of the game works, and this might inform a lot of their future players. Like, look like they're going to watch this back and see it not only that. But there are going to be edited clips there's going to be a clip show. Eventually be the best part of that clip show. Don't be the worst partly you don't wanna piss too many. People off in. It's it's just another layer of g I guess, I feel like this is one of my few social media posts where I feel like because I posted the screen shot of it on Twitter. And I felt like if I want if I wanted to be incendiary, and I wanted this to go like just get really big. I could have I could've made like a Lolo Jones cheating and like all of the casualties have been so confused. They would have been fire. It would have been controversy. But. I just I couldn't I couldn't do it. I to be to be less crazy about it. But this does wonder petty. You I'm selling you. Anybody post this on the Facebook group, or whatever you will it will blow up. It's yours. It's yours to do. Wait on their next fix to be to be pissed off. Yes, exactly. So in this did make me wonder has Lolo Jones been posting a lot of like kazlo has been tweeting. A lot of things that are directed at people. She tweeted at Jonathan like, oh, I love you. I'm sorry for the way. Things went in the house. Was that actually Lolo we've been thinking was because Twitter. But who knows that this? If her social media person is willing to impersonate her here, maybe they've been impersonating here, the whole time, maybe all of this social media jury work has been heard your social media manager the whole time. If so. Frocks to ever the hell she has one in her shape because that's that's that's that's masterful. I would hope it it. It's I'm like, I would I would hope that like if they if they went through the trouble of getting them in i-ipad, and then making giving them only access to one social media platform. I would hope that that will be the social media platform that they agreed to have total autonomy over. But then again, probably not because I'm pretty sure they like Jonathan was one of the first accounts to tweet, and it was him with a picture of like a mocha or some shit. And it's like where would he have gotten that picture on the ipad that they pre upload pictures? And then I paid for him to tweet out like they probably have other people on that on. I'm pretty sure I saw Tom green tweets that weren't from Tom green. When he was in the house that we're like from his I know his his Instagram promoting like his show coming up like that. So. Hey, I once again, another layer Sharad as you make sure that you know, you gotta get somebody gets you a social media publicists entered Tren. Welcome on the chat says Lillo higher. Dan, geese linked Doron or social media. All right. So there you go. That's nice little taste of of Lolo before we get into her game. But but really I did want to go over some of the jury votes that we're looking at here in preparation for the round table tonight. We'll go into more detail, but I I've been counting Ricky Natalie, Tom and Kato as Lolo votes, if she's next to tame, mar if Kato was swayed by this or maybe maybe he was tame are the whole time. But given Tom's social media likes, and such and Cato's feelings toward both of them really did seem like he was probably leaning one way. But if if if if if Lolo doesn't have Tom and Cato, then I think that taymor has a very real chance to win this one. I do think Lolo still probably has Joey. So that's important because if she does have Tom and Kato, and she has Natalie and Ricky, and she has Joey and then she's already one. But if she doesn't have Kato anymore that? She might not have Tom. And I think the field goes wide open at that point. So tame are definitely I think has has some chance here based on the social media likes. Now. I'm all about reading the social media likes. It's probably the one of the few times where you have to actually be worried about them damn likes. That's bets. Yeah. So it's been confirmed that mooch is not voting, right? Or is that in firms? I I've read it in lots of places, and it would make no sense to me that he would vote. I don't know if I've seen it directly from CBS, right? It's kind of interesting because he's probably going to be at the finale. Yes, I've heard that he's going to be at the finale, but he's not going to be one not vote. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So let's talk about Lola's game from the start to the end. Lolo she enters the house. She immediately bonds with Natalie Ricky and taymor those are her roommates. She has an Olympic connection with Ryan which sort of helps bring her into this Jonathan alliance. It is formed on night one. This Jonathan alliance is not going to last very long because she quickly becomes dissatisfied with it. She says that she is jealous of Ryan and Jonathan's relationship. And so this leads to some tension when she flips off Ryan's picture and front of him and that leads to him being like, hey, maybe I should make a move on low low. She clearly hates us Ricky wins. The veto Ricky is the wrong person to tell that plan to Ricky runs to low and tells her Ryan's plan to potentially back door her. And at this point she's done done with the Jonathan alliance and she wants Jonathan out. Meanwhile, because of Natalie's connection to Kato they are able to come together with Tom Lolo Kato, Tom and. Natalie and they start to form a kind of one week deal to get Jonathan out and keep each other safe in the following week. They also bring Ricky and closer with them based based on his maneuvering and telling them the information about Ryan, then we also see taymor go off on candy and once taymor wants candy gone. They want Jonathan gone. This drives a bit of a wedge between taymor and the women. And so they came are who was part of that group and part of that alliance does get separated a bit for the time being here, and the sort of group of five of the Natalie Lolo, Ricky, Tom and Kato we're going to move forward into the next week as the tightest group of people working together as Jonathan gets victim. And that's week one in a nutshell. Good good jobs here. And there was really that really recapitulate and everything in my head. I I think that this this. She had me very very very very scared from the moment that she started to be in her feelings about Jonathan and Ryan, and I thought, oh, this is this is this is not good. This is the part where she decides to just blow everything up and this is going to do next year. They're gonna come after her because she is proven to be owes cannon. And then it's the usual. I can't trust you anymore. You don't even tend to trust me. So I'll have to put your s up in Bilo. But. Didn't happen. She was sort of able to make connections through Natalie and sort of infiltrate herself. And also get somebody that she wanted out out on even if not everybody that she was with agreed with it. So I think that she g definitely made a tremendous error in. I think this is kind of white gets the the the snowball of conflicts of Lolo rolling at this point and people get beginning to realize that she's a bit of a hot head. She did not the the the biggest error was flipping off Ryan, and Jonathan, but I think that it's still worked out in her favor in the end, and she navigated as well as she could give that she shot herself in the foot. Let me get go. Yes. And really, I think the takeaways I got from going over their games is that Natalie was usually the strategic driver of the pair of them. It was Natalie's connection that got them in with Tom. Kato Lolo later. We'll have a better social connection with the two of them. But Natalie was the one that initiated it Natalie is usually the one that's going to be making the moves and low lows contribution to their alliance was to bring in people that she would later betray for no reason. And as you mentioned, I think really the biggest mistake Lolo makes all season long even more than her blowups on Tom Kato is saying in the diary room. I'm jealous of Ryan and Jonathan's relationship, and that being a very clear her being very clear motivation for this strategic game move that changes the course of the entire game. It really paints a bad light on the rest of her decisions in the game. When the first thing she does is motivated by jealousy. Jealousy. Not exactly a respected. Ovation. It was it was brilliant to why it was it was I loved watching her meltdown like this. But it's it's not good. And it you your will you paint yourself as this person that is willing to cut people for just how you feel that day, and it makes it very hard. I mean in the beginning of the game, people are more willing to you know, forgive their grievances of you. Because of the fact that they need it's a numbers game in the beginning. But people's people still remember that and I think that, you know, we'll we'll talk about it more as you progress through her game. But is she gets into so many more arguments that I think it just it's so hard to like you're gonna have to play cleanup and all season long. That's not it's not it's not fun. And it's not it doesn't really make you the best person to win the game in the end. So Jonathan leaves Kato is going to win the next h h and with Kato and power. They really solidifies this group of of four two. Five where previously the women were saying this is a one week deal, even though Tom and Cato, right? From the beginning thought that they were going to be going to the end with the women. But now that Cato's empower the women are like, oh, yeah. We are we doing to work with you more long term. And so low low is hoping that Ryan will be back toward this week. She talks to taymor about it. They had talked without her and taymor is mad because of some candy stuff. And the fact that they were talking without her in the fact that you might be going on block this is when low low entail mar get into their second fight after we we saw the clip of Natalie and low low in the final two and the punch in the throat, which is probably I don't know. They were both pretty good fights. I don't know. It's hard to choose the. I'm a big fan of the I know someone got one time to call me obation. Thank you. Well, then do it. Then say they do say, then say. I'm always a big fan of the of the of the verbal stalemate before it becomes musical. Whether like, you you got us on burst grown. We sit down sit down with somebody who had the diary room cool off a little bit about to Allison. Get your head. Right. Combat make up let's continue. Let's. The two of them are just two sides of the same. Larry is. So she's also lowest is going to encourage Ricky to work on his relationship with Tom as they solidify this this more long-term alliance with Tom and Kato Tom is expressing some doubt in Ricky and Lolo wants to get rid of that because Lola wants Ricky involved in this alliance. She gives them specific instructions Ricky carries those instructions out, it appears that they work. But it turns out maybe they didn't later on. They do solidify this alliance to move forward. More long-term end. She's also gonna talk with Natalie about how they're done with damar. They're done with her. She's arguing with her. Now, they're working with Tom and Katie when Ricky they don't need taymor anymore. They want her gone soon. In fact, if Ryan or Joey wins the veto they're voting out team taymor over Dina. That's the plan. And that's what they're sticking to. Yeah. I was I was sad about this. Because I you know, I'm I'm a big fan of taymor. She she really caters to the audience 'cause she's just a big character. And I thought that this maybe which is biased. But I thought this just wasn't a thought it wasn't smart. I was not smart Lolo because you just. Blink. Why why do people continuously warmed these alliances insulate themselves and then start chipping away at the installation. Come on. And like, you have you have to think logically about this understand that you live with these people twenty four seven this or to piss you off they do but come on like beaten. It's win. It think about your game. Like, what are you doing? They they even mentioned to themselves. You know, Dina's kind of moron Kato side kind of more on our side. But whatever we're just so we need to take her out this week if Ryan or Joey when the veto I pray I pray that if I ever and blessed enough to play this game that I am able to recognize like general annoyance in pissed off it nece if it were as it were and like bad for my game. You gotta go like, I would I would hope I mean, we see it all the time. So maybe it's kind of hard the lines get blurred for some people. And they honestly think that just because you're pissed off right now they have to go. But I would hope that someone would give me the clarity to be like look like, we know like. Like, you just gotta you gotta move past this like we can get through this like think about next week think about next week think about next week. She just was not able to do that. So luckily, though pretend mar Ryan or Joey do not win the veto and Ryan is going to be evicted here. So heading into week three before the wage. Ricky is going to spill some information to Natalie and low low about how Joey is coming for Lolo and Natalie and low low is pissed not happy with Joey how dare he he has. No right to be upset after he didn't want to be in on lions that I'd never actually proposed to him. How dare he I regret crying for Ryan. Really upset about everything there. She is. So Tom is gonna end up winning this veto sorry, this H and pretty quickly Natalie and Lolo are going to start talking to themselves about, hey. Do we really want to stay loyal to this alliance because Tom Cato, they're like really strong competitions keta just one and h Tom and nature wage. I don't know if we want to take them to the end, I don't know if that's really what we want to do. And they did have this conversation prior to Tom and Kato deciding that they wanted to go after Ricky's so this was in the works here despite what they claim. Yeah. Yeah. It's that this is horribly where they just weren't winning anything surprisingly enough. And I think it probably was like sort of like a little bit embarrassing for them just a little bit because the athletes of the house, and you're leading two of the oldest guys in there beat you in these competitions. It was like look like. This might not be the best thing for us. And I love how Ricky is continuously spilling information to low like she's like a little wind up dotting. And we just like why did you up get you all round up and set you free? See what happens? So Thomas going to eventually pitch. This back door Ricky plan to Lolo she gets pissed at him. They get into a fight. She can't believe how paranoid Tom is. I don't know why he would ever think that that they would ever turn on them. Why would they ever think that we're definitely targeting Tom now? Right. Like, definitely. So she and Natalie let Ricky no the Tom is after him, and then Joey is going to pitch to low low and the rest of them that he is now on their side is going to after Kato and Tom Lola likes this idea. She wants to keep him. They try to pretend Tom and Kato that they're still on board with everything, but it doesn't last especially after Natalie uses the veto, then you know, she and Natalie discussed again how much they don't like tame, mar they want her gone as soon as Tom and Kato league of Tom. I kate. We'll get to get rid of Tom Cato. Then KMart tamers next after that. That's what they need to do. She she will not play ball with them. They don't like that. This is also when the big blowup happens in the kitchen and acting classes things production damn out of my room. She she tells taymor about the MS Cleo comments and calls, Tom, a psycho, a terrible human being this is this is when everything goes goes crazy. This was probably the the ugliest fight. I think fights in the big brother house get particularly ugly every time it's between a man and a woman because then you get a lot of like. You just get a lot of the. The supposed- sexist, and massaging this undertone that come along with these types of arguments as much validity as you wanna give them or as you're inclined to, but it it was we'll continue to watch especially like, Tom caterina's beg on the table. And it was just like Lolo. Actress. The being caught an actress with a wars thing impo world, especially in this game. Was it wasn't. It wasn't fun. It wasn't fun. I I definitely did not go back to look at that. Yeah. So this this all goes down here, they need to keep Joey. So they work on her. But to no avail here taymor is going to want candy to stay and as does Tom Cato. So candy does stay Joey ends up being victimized and we head into week four where really nothing happens taymor wins the HR wage, she agrees Lolo agrees that Cato is the bigger threat between him, and Tom, and then catos addicted there really wasn't much else that went down this week beyond more. I we talked about the big blow ups from this point on Lolo is going to be trash talking most people in the house, and that's most of my notes consist of that she wasn't doing a whole lot of strategy this week. It was a very short week, and it was a very straightforward week. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was pointed that was like taymor H and everything is going swimmingly. Like, it was the least eventful HOA. Would've guessed like she wouldn't want him up, Tom. And now he's in power. She's sitting there putting the proper like come on now. But you know, that's how you do it. That's true. That's name retarget. Give them hell out of there. That was it. Yeah. So Tom and Lolo have a good conversation after Cato's victims about what he had been thinking why she's apologizing to her? He feels good about this conversation, which is which helps protect her moving forward with Tom even though she's going to media we turn around and and be like, oh, Tom was lying to me. Tom doesn't know that. So Tom after he wins H O H is wanting to keep Lolo safe. And then we have the whole meeting stuff that happens candy talks into nominating Natalie instead of Lolo that helps her as well, obviously, he does have a conversation with Lolo where they talk about her Olympic dreams. And how Tom wants Lola to win the game because he knows that she needs the money more. And he it's a very sweet conversation. Low lows later going to be like he used by Olympic dreams to manipulate me. He made fun of me for not having health care. How dare he? So this this I think really helps sell I think the overall message of Lola's game, which is that strategically there wasn't much there. Natalie was driving most of the decisions socially with her alliance members. She was okay at. Some of them. She pissed off some of them. She was okay with but she was there's again, especially in comparison to Natalie. And sometimes we'll Ricky there's something that's a little more genuine invulnerable about Lolo that attracts people to her more. So once they get to know her then people like Natalie and Ricky, and I think that was her true strength in the game. If we are to find one. But then to like that Volmer ability terrifies her and she hates it. And then so just so anytime she exposes the vulnerability in these like nice moments. She's going to turn around, and like, you know, hard enough tenfold and be mad and use it against the person that she opened up to which is her one of her main faults in the game. Is borderline. That's okay. But I mean, I agree that because of the fact that she is sort of just like out there with honours leave and sort of just kind of willing to give into with anybody people. You know, she's she's she's she's not the wolf and sheep's clothing. She's the wolf you see your coming in, you know, what's up in. I think that is as far as her alliance members. Go the ones that have already signed life over to her. She kind of she kind of you know, she can be she can use it as a good driving force to really get things moving in the direction that she wants them to. So it's that I would I would agree that her greatest strength is is her emotions. It's also her greatest weakness because all that she's using in this game. So Lolo is going to try to flip Dina this week using her barrage of insults about Tom on her. This is important because Dina's not going to have time. If she is a juror to see everything that happened on the show. And so when Lolo talks to her and tells her about how terrible person Tom is Dina does not agree with Lolo about this. She is later going to be like, Tom. I'm so sorry that these people did this to you. She's going to remember that low said these things, and so anytime, you expose your hatred to people like Dina that's not good in terms of that jury vote that said, you know, basically, everyone all three of the. Low low T taymor. Andrea have done this to different extents with Dina. So. But important to note. Tom is going to use the veto on Ricky and puts Lolo up on the block. She's of course, mad. They have this big thing about who is who is going to go home Natalie. Let's decide between the two of us. They have a whole thing. Trying to decide which one of them is going to lay down their life in the game. But it doesn't matter because candy and Dana have already decided that it's going to be Natalie Natalie is the bigger threat. Low low is a bigger jury go this is really the only reason why Lolo stays in obviously it was not exactly intentional on lo-lose part. So there you go Natalie's evicted. Yeah. I mean, if you it's never good before your chances that actually winning this game. If you survive only because people want to think, they can beat you. It's is not it doesn't really say much about your your social game. With isn't really say much about your game at all. It just means that people don't get your game. Is it? They may grow it in it. So yes, so. We head into the double fiction, obviously, we see low low win the next age OH, and she's going to target, Tom. She's going to have that moment. Again, not a good look to be on live TV and unable to nominee second nominee. So that's not good. But she gets. She gets Tom on the block taymor wins. The veto Tom goes home. She does smarten up a little bit. After Tom goes home. Ricky is going to win the next H wage, and while taymor is is various still anti Tom Ricky is kind of like, hey, let's chill on Tom. When she when Lola was with taymor. She's all about the bashing. When he when she's with Ricky, she's like a little more respectful, which is at least half and half, which is not not bad. But but again in the episode that we saw that the more visible stuff, we are reverting back to pre Tom being evicted Lolo days. And that's not a good look for her. And I think that the stuff on the feeds is going to be less impactful to the jury than that. So that's important to note. Right. I mean, I guess I guess it would be fair to say that Lolo is sort of the villain of the season. Edited. Yes, definitely I think that the editors definitely want to paint Lolo as the Bill, and I think that like it's something to be aware of that again. Like in that episode taymor plays ball with the producers. She gives them good TV Lolo is like f- CBS for letting Tom do this to me production. Get Kato out of my room. That's going to have some impact on like if they're looking at some stuff, and they're looking at like, how should we betray these people? They're going to be inclined to certain way. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's unfortunate. I mean, if you're going to be a villain of at least the be the level of it. When even though I'll kind of you'll like that breed is sort of died out right now, it's not really in the in the circle of fads in the big with the community being a lovable villain is still not good. But at least if you're going to go that route, willow, at least be self aware enough to know that you're being painted that way in just lean into it. But in a good way, but I just don't think that she really cares about me that I think she's just if she's pissed off pissed off. And that's just how it's going to be. So that leads us to where we are. Now Lola wins the veto and she wants candy gun because she knows candy will not take her to the final two and that's lows game. Again, you know, I did I tried to find the good in it. And they're just really isn't a whole lot there. I do think she can win the game. I think again, if honestly these leave the best thing she ever did in the game was for social media stuff, which might not even be her. But still still honestly points more to him up being her that anything else. But it was it's been good. It's been seriously good. She's been tweeting at specific players. I don't know why anybody else why nobody else is doing this. She is reaching out to them. She is apologizing. She is humble in these tweets. So if it is then it's good. It's fantastic. And if she wins the game, she might have that to thank because Joey vote could be essential. And and I think that Joey especially when he comes out of the house, and he realizes that. Hey, bashing Lolo gets me laughs, it would probably be inclined to not vote Lolo. But he was very touched by what she sent him. Probably and. So it's it does seem like she has his vote, and this could be very very tight vote, depending if she's up against hey, are even if she's up against Ricky. I think there's a chance she could have a chance there though. I do think freaky probably has the upper hand. So definitely the social media is a good thing. Just low low being Lola. She wants them comps. That was good. And, you know, just being I again, I think that the being just slightly more genuine than Natalie where Natalie was a little more composed in front of other people Natalie just seemed like the smarter more threatening person that was good for Lolo. So. If I'm looking at why Lolo got here. Why Lolo might win the game? These are the reasons she was less threatening. She was good on social media. And there was there's something there's there's vulnerability to her that she tries to extinguish, but can't and that appeals to people. I think so those those are the things that I think have contributed toward her potential success. And she wanna cuppa comps that. Yes, no ensured that. Other bitches went home. So yeah, it'll be interesting. I mean, if if social media becomes a driving factor to her winning this game. It would just be so entertaining to see the rest of these celebrities clamoring for that damn ipad towards the end of the season with like on their apology tour like own I'm so sorry. What I said to unite one in the bathroom, I related need it. I'm sorry. Like, I'm ready for it. I. I really want in the final two questioning for Joey to be like, you know, your post really a lot to me and love is like which which. The I totally meant everything I said, I think. Like, you're you're well. You're so welcome Joey. And like I said, I'm I'm sorry. That's what we've got for you today. The round will be tonight at eight thirty pm eastern. I'm going to post the form for it on Twitter as soon as this podcast, and you can vote on who you're going to be voting for for America's favorite. You can rank all of the jury members in terms of where you think their votes are going to go we'll go through all of the different final two combinations. It'll be fun times. You can rate the players games, of course, and all all sorts of fun questions fun things to do here on the forms. Make sure you fill it out. You can find it on my Twitter page at Armstrong Taryn, I'll pin it to the top as soon as I posted, I promise. So check that out. And then I will be back tomorrow morning eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds, we will probably know at that point definitely who is going to be going home. And hopefully have a good idea of who's going to be taken to the final two. And I will also be going over the final two players who have not talked about yet who are going to be in the. Final four whether it's candy and tame mar or DNA and taymor small chance depending on who blows up today, candy and Andina so look out for that tomorrow. And then of course, tomorrow night, it's the two hour finale starting at nine pm eastern, and we will be recapping that and going over the winner of celebrity big brother two. Yeah. 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I feel like it's been a little messy and just knowing that big rig candidate seven is like three weeks away has me really excited for that. So we started for for the finale here tonight. Yes, we are here on the morning of February thirteenth the night of the season. Finale, and there's actually does still some stuff. We've got update you on. So we will talk about everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds, and then I guess slight spoiler still not exactly a hundred percent on who's going to be leaving tonight. Before the final four. So we are in fact going to go over the final three people in the game. I Dina then tame taymor and candy. So we're gonna go over there games. Luckily, luckily, candy and Dana in particular, less to talk about and really when we're talking about strategic drivers it was mostly Natalie. Secondly, Ricky, and and so there's a little bit less to talk about with with these three. I think it's fair to released even if I mean, I do think it's a little bit more like maybe less up in the air. But who's going home? I think they kind of cleared it up last night, obviously, it's still change. But I think it's still fair to talk about all of these final players. They've been here for for twenty nine days now and all of them have different aspects of their game that that literally like you said you guys said last night any of them could win if things fall into the right place tonight. So yes worth talking about. All right. So let's talk about what happened yesterday. Obviously low load does not use the veto so Dina and candy remain on the block Lolo is going to talk with Dina and DNA is going to say, hey, taymor and candy are working together. They will definitely. Take each other in just so, you know. And Lola's like why don't you tell me before the veto? I would've used the veto. That's always thinking about it like. And do you know? Oh, no. This is really a day of two people campaigning back and forth. Dina and candy. It's a battle between the two of them and Dina is going to take the first strike here. And it's going to be a good one. She also tells her about how taymor and Ricky we're trying to get her a victory over Natalie. That's what Tom was trying to tell her all along. She was like, I can't believe it. She says, look, I will take you to the final two. I've always said I want the person who needs it the most to be there in the end to win the game. So I would take you because I know that you need it the most I would also vote for you in the end Lolo. I would totally vote. I mean, really you would thinking about it. Right. You would definitely lose to tame. Are you would definitely beat Ricky? So you should take Ricky. Did you know is this is happening over the course of a conversation where dean is being Dina still don't know exactly what she's talking about with why she's telling her that she can beat Ricky. If that's a thing that she shouldn't be saying because she wants to take her. But I guess she knows that's not going to happen or she's just Dina. And so. Whoa. Really ricky. You think I can be Ricky? I was kind of thinking I couldn't be Ricky and Dina's like, no. You can definitely be Ricky believe me. She's like, okay. Okay. So she goes, okay. I like a lot of what you're saying. I need you to go talk to Ricky see what he thinks about all of this. So DNA I first strike, and it's it's pretty successful here. Lo-lose feeling pretty good about this. Well, here's my thing. I feel like this is not only is Dina trying to get into the game way too. Little too late. Like this like we are on the second to last day of the season her her life in the game is completely on the line. And she has not had game conversations with pretty much anybody. But candy the entire season washing machine just exploded or something. Sorry. Whole game. So that game talked with there's some loud noises out there. But I think also something that is helping Dina in this circumstances. The fact that Lolo as the season has gone on especially in these last few days is just like getting progressively worse. As a big brother player, I think without Natalie her strategic game that that might have existed has just completely gone off. The like there's nothing left. She's just completely becoming somebody who if she was on like big brother nineteen Paul would have had her as putting his hands. Like, he she is she sold multiple to anything that anybody comes at her with as seeing yesterday with this conversation with DNA later on with you know, just to any plan that that rookie comes to her with. She's she's happy to go along with its, you know, she has an idea in her head of what she wants to do. But anybody could tell her anything and she's like, yeah. You know, you're making a good point. So just there's a low low. Oh, watch across the whole day. So she talks with Dina. And now she's fully on board team Dina. She believes everything Dina told her. She's feeling. Okay. You go talk to Ricky Dina goes and talks to Ricki and Dina tells Ricky, hey, taymor and candy are working together. They're definitely going to take each other to the end she gives you the whole the same pitch and Ricky though is Ricky and Dina is deana. And so the two of them together in a conversation just goes nowhere where Ricky's like, well, why do you feel that way? I mean, like, of course, of course, can't he's going to do things. Of course, taymor is going to do things. What's the point of what you're saying? I mean, Ricky's honestly, like us watching Dina try to talk game because he's trying not to laugh at her. But it's laughable everything because she hasn't talked to him at all the entire season. She hasn't talked game with him at all in these past few days. She's been really powder. She's been passive aggressive. Not really talking to anybody. She's been saying bad things about Ricky for the past few days, and he's not stupid. He realizes that. You know, that this is a very obvious last minute. Ditch dean is not good at talking to talking about. At the game at all. So he's just like, what are you? What are you even trying to say right now? Like, what are you getting what are you trying to like what you what's your angle here? I don't understand what you're trying to say. None of it's making sense. Yes. Like, I said basically goes nowhere. But the point is should she did get across to him. Hey, KMart and candy are a lot closer than you think I've talked with candy a long time. I know how close how closely they they're working together. So in the meantime, low is talking with candy now, it's candies turn to try and sway low low here, they go to the memory wall and their their counting out jury votes. And candy is trying to explain what she was trying to tell her earlier when Lolo got mad at candy for saying that little could win the game. And that candy wouldn't take her to the end. She saying, no, no, no, that's not what I was saying. Look what I was saying was I do think you have a good chance to beat me. You have these votes in this you have this person and this person and this person. And I think that my best chance is against you a Ricky because I know I can't be tamed mar Lola's like, well, I'm hearing from Dina that you are going to take. Tame are that you have a secret deal. And can is like what's no that Dina? I can't believe she would say that stuff. That's not true. I can't beat taymor. I know I can't be tamed. Mar I know I might have a chance against you to Ricky or Lolo. So I have to take one of you. And I still think that you guys can probably beat me. But you know, that's that's just the way it goes. And Lola's like, you know, I hadn't really thought about that. I hadn't really thought about how I have if I'm against you. Then I've got Ricky. I've got. Got natalie. I can maybe I probably could beat you. I'm starting to come around to this. And I didn't know you're also rich, and I'm not I need the money. So that that means a lot to people, and I can probably beat you in that regard. So yeah, okay. I'm starting. I'm starting to buy this in it's like candy with with the comeback blow the counter, she's got low. Okay. Lolo watch Lolo is now on team candy. And I don't mean to diminish candy or DNA or anybody. But like like, I just was saying before having low be the person that these people are talking to is making their jobs infinitely easier because she's just completely falling for everything that anyone is saying to her at this point. And it's so sad to watch like any halfway decent player would have taken the information that candy gave her which was about tame are saying, I don't think I can be tamer. I think that if tamers on the jury I can probably get her vote, and that's kind of what I want right now. And what have taken that information knowing that Lolo wanted candy to go gone to tame taymor and said taymor. Listen to all of this stuff. Candy just told me we really should get her out it benefits both of us. But instead she spends the rest of her day until later on saying, all right? Well, I guess it makes sense to candy know, all the all the candies points made sense and my teammates want candy to go. So it's just really not a good look for Lolo continued continued year. Yes. So then vote says to candy you should go talk to reconsider Icke things about all this. Defaults. Go talk to Ricky. And now that you've talked to me go talk to Ricky. So candy goes, and she talks to Ricki, and she starts to give Ricky the same pitch. She just gave to Lolo about how hey if you're against me. You have your locked in roommate votes. That's great for you. I definitely don't have a deal with taymor. I know I can't beat Tamar and Ricky's like, okay. So who are you gonna take off the I think I have the best shot against you or low low? And he's like, yeah. Yeah. Between the two of us who would it be? She's I I mean. Who would it be? Who would it be? Maybe it'd be it'd be it'd be Ricky. That's I would take you force it out of her. I probably have a better shot against you Ricky, and he's like, okay. And she's so she starts to go over. So I just want to give you my final. Plea initially starts to go over the votes. Why she thinks that she can she again, the same sort of pitch that she gave little Ricky's just not having look. Oh, look before you, even I I don't care about the votes. I'm more about like rewarding. You know, the people that have been with me, and I'm a healer and all of this stuff. And it's like candy is just not really getting through to him. But he does say look if I if I broke the tie to keep you would you take me to the to the final two and she says, yes, it's like, okay. So that's that's the they basically ended there. And they'll say also that I think I was noticing as the day went on. It seemed like Ricky was really starting to have his gears start turning in the idea that he was considering. You know, changing his mind about who he should send home here. And I think that he probably during this conversation was already on board with the whole. I think I'm changing my mind about candy to go. So I think he was like still holding out the possibility that that can't he's going to be the one that stays. So of course, he's trying to secure this deal. But I think it's really like, I don't know if it's if it's been like the past few days that he's been thinking about it or or just some time during this day that he changed his mind. But I I have a theory myself. I think right now, I think right now that Ricky is on board with keeping the key knows the taymor wants to keep candy. And at this point, he's thinking Lolo might wanna keep candy to. And so he's he's like, you know, even if it doesn't want to keep candy keeping candy seems like what it's been what he's been thinking. He wants to do for awhile. I think he's going to here. But I think that. He's a little put off in this conversation by the contrast between Dina's pitch and candies pitch. And how ridiculous can Dino was in comparison to how rational candy was. And I think he's a little put off by how rational candy was. But he's still planning on keeping candy. He's just a little thrown off. I think a little bit like, wait a minute. And also DNA just told me that candy entame tame are really working together. If they are that's kind of dangerous. I don't like that. I'm supposed to have a final deal with Tamar. But if candies in the mix, maybe I don't like the candy's denying that she has this deal with taymor. Because I don't know if I believe that entirely. So I think that he's starting to think about this. But but at the moment he's still on team. Keep candy. I think is heart has always wanted to keep candy. I think that's what led him into this spot in the first place of saying I want candy to stay there. I feel like they've been thinking about it in a way that like as if they're still a week left in the game. Like we want candy here. We want to send out there. Both jury threats. So let's get. Let's keep in the person that we like more. I don't know. But I feel like this conversation like he was looking for any reasons that he could find to convince himself that he's making the right decision and keeping candy. But the conversation really just didn't go exactly how it didn't. Go ideal for candy because it didn't leave him feeling the most comfortable. Yeah. So here's my theory. I think that the next conversation he has tame mar and he talked with him about how we're so good about final two. Right. And I think that he's thinking about this. Because again, he just was told from DNA told him. Hey, candy and Dina or candy and taymor closer than you think. They are going to take each other followed by candy. Oh, I can't be taymor. That's no way. I can't be taymor. I'm definitely not working with her. And then he talks to taymor. He's like, so we're good on the final thing. Right. You know, Dina's saying things about how you're working with candy and came response is oh, no candy wouldn't take me who would take you. She knows. She can't beat me. She thinks she can beat you. And I think this is what clicked in Ricky's mind. He was like that is almost word for word. What candy just told me that suspicious? I think this is what makes him go. Hold on. I don't like this. I think maybe candy entame are are working together. Still, and I can't have that especially if candy is more likely to win the final HOA j-. They'd just it was to smooth. It was too rehearsed. And I think that when Deena came up to him with all of her messes. He was just like this is laughable. There's no like she doesn't have any deals with anyone. This is a lot easier to deal with. I know what I'm getting here and this team. Our candy connection is a little too scary. So I think that in this moment, he goes he starts. To change his mind about wanting to keep candy, exactly. And and I always felt like this might be the day. Like if there was an instance where it's back to evicting candy. It would have been in these final hours of today. Because like I said everyone is thinking in terms of who are we going to keep? But it's once they snap into it and realize we're only keeping this person to compete against in one final competition on finale night. The only reason that we're keeping this person in the game is because we should have easier chance of beating them essentially, it just has always made more sense that DNA is the one that they kept. So I felt like they they could have come to this. But it would have always had to be Ricky to come to this because taymor obviously wasn't going to start this discussion of let's candy. That's not what she wants. And Lolo is not smart enough at this point to have any kind of strategic thoughts like that. So it was going to be Ricky if anything, and you know, unfortunately for the candy canes out there. This is what happened. So low low is going to join them in this conversation. They talk some more about candy and mart continues to talk about. How candy wouldn't take her to the end and in all of this? And so then they talk about DNA and Lola's telling them what Dino's saying, you know, both taymor and Ricky are kind of denying it like, oh, we weren't trying to get you know, you out over Natalie, and like oh Dina's lying about this stuff and tamers like really jumping on this DNA. She so messy. I can't believe she's lying to us like that and Ricky Ricky and Lillard both like she's trying whatever. Timor's thing. She just you know, she can this is the way her game works just as trying to make it seem like Dina's this like crazy mastermind stirring, the pot Tom green style out there. But it's so right. He's trying. It's it's, you know, you're not gonna you're not gonna you're not gonna make DNA out to be some strategic mastermind and Ricky again points out like. It was funny talking to her. I it was like it was ridiculous. And so they sort of the end that conversation Lolo is going to talk with an again like taymor just keeps saying she doesn't care who leaves. And then right after saying, but Dina we don't want her to I like, that's I mean, I don't care, but you know, Dina socks, and we shouldn't beat all of us. And I think again like Ricky's really seeing that taymor is fighting for candy to say, especially after she just told him that she knows that candy won't take her to the final two candy told him that she wouldn't take her to the final two. I think I think Ricky is like, okay, I'm starting to see through this a little bit so Lolo talks detail mar and asks her again, hey, do you have a deal with Ricky do deal with Ricky Tamar because I feel like you might have. Rickie table. Oh, no. Of course. Not. I don't have a deal. I wouldn't do you like that? I wouldn't leave you hanging. Like that. Of course, not I'm going to take you to the end Lolo. I don't have no deal with Ricky definitely not. Tim says that she definitely also wouldn't take candy to the end because she doesn't want to lose to candy and candy won't take her to the end because candidates want to lose to hurt. Yes. Yeah. I don't know where you fall on how much you believe taymor in this. But I really I don't know how like if it was this conversation or a different one. I just I'm convinced at this point that taymor does plan to take Lolo. I feel like the way that she expressed herself by saying like when she she's she's told Ricky, it's good me. And you to the end like we got each other. I feel like that's her way of trying to make sure that Ricky feels good about her. But the fact that she said to Lolo one hundred percent a thousand percent, I am taking you Lolo. I'm not gonna fuck you like, I think that like that that was some like specific language to make sure that Lolo knows that she is taking her, and I know it's taymor because she's been she's she's been making promises all over the place. But I don't know. I just kind of felt it. But this one that she she is. Is smart enough to know that her best chance is against Lolo? And I feel like she wouldn't have said it. That's specifically one hundred percent of thousand percent. I am taking you if she planned on not actually taking her. I don't know. That's what I felt. I mean, I certainly possible. It's hard to read where tame ours. I personally lean toward Ricky. She's had a final two with Ricky for a lot longer than Lolo. And also she has been both Dina and candy talking about how Ricky is easier to beat. It was sort of reinforcing the idea that maybe Ricky is the better option. So I would personally lean toward Ricky. But I just feel like she is, you know, at this point like she she before the season she'd been in interviews talking about how I think I'm going to come in third or fourth place, and that's fine. And I for a while. I was like maybe she actually believes that maybe she's actually going to just kind of give up at third or fourth in the fact that she's been trying to keep candy in the game. So long it's been making me still believe that like she doesn't care what she finishes here. But I don't know maybe it was after the video from home. And she just keep seeing. Son. I feel like she has the drive to win even though she's not going about it in the best way. In terms of like, she wants to keep candy in the house. Who is not a good person to sit next to in the final two. I just feel like she does have her head in the game. And she is thinking, you know, I've had blow should people lo-lose had blowups with people. It makes the most sense for me to try winning against her. So that is something else to consider is that in this conversation. Tae Maher is still feels like candy is going to be staying in the game. And she obviously plans on taking or at least presumably plans on taking candy before low. So I think she's lying to Lolo in this conversation regardless because whether or not she has a deal with Ricky she's still taking candy before Lolo. So I don't personally I wouldn't personally I wouldn't take what she says to Lolo in this particular conversation at face value. Obviously, she's lying about Ricky. And I also think she's lying about the fact that she was also would also take candy to the to the final two if she had the. I'm also somebody who's never actually fully been on board with the fact that she might take handy. I know a lot of people have been, but I've never been totally subscribed to that. Okay. Well. Where I'm coming from. Honestly, Tae could do any any one of those three things. I personally my when I think that she wants to take candy. I think Ricky would be next and then Lolo, but well, we might find out we might find out on on tonight tonight. So low low is then going to talk to Ricky and she's like, all right? So we're all set to keep candy then Ricky's like. Changed my mind thinking, maybe not gonna keep candy anymore. It's like we're so close and lows completely blindsided. She's like, wait, what Burkey you're blowing my mind right now. Look, what do you mean? No, you you're not sure like what Lolo just would never have thought that Ricky is going to change his mind dig into as she was locked in the team was locked in. We are keeping candy. And then you know, somebody's still thinking in the game. And she's mind-blowing that people are still thinking so now so oh, man. So she's I well why why is he and Ricky says look candy told me that she's going to take me to the end. And I don't I don't want to don't want you. I don't want you in taymor to regret keeping candy knowing that she's taking me it just feels wrong. You know, I don't want to do that to you guys. So I was thinking about what you were saying the other night about how candy is more likely to win the final h wage. I wouldn't I wouldn't like it. If candy won the final h and took me over you guys. So I think it's better if we keep if we keep Tina around, and then hopefully, we can beat her. And then we will both be in the finals together and low is just like, oh, wow. Candy going to take you. That's okay. She goes to tame, our she's I Ricky doesn't want to keep candy more. He's either super sneaky or he's a Saint because he's just laying down his life for us. He just he doesn't want candy to to take him and not us a gift. Here. He's he's he's giving us something that we never could repay. So nice rookie to to help us get farther in the game. So I can pretty sure it's the sneaky thing pretty sure it's that one. So she's going to talk about it with Tamar and taymor is like no, well, man. But remember about how we hate Dina. Remember that part and Lillo is like, yeah. But I mean candies gonna take Ricky don't you? I mean, why would you wanna keep candy if you know that she's gonna take Ricky? I I just because I'm not a hater. Yeah. That that line is what I knew and tweeted this yesterday that taymor ran out of runway like she has she has nothing left. But she can argue argue saying that candy is the better choice to keep in the house. There's really no, no more reasons. Like lo-lose coming at her with exactly what Ricky told her. And it's just it does not make any sense for her to keep her unless she brought up a point saying, I think candy will actually take me. But everyone is coming out with other reasons to say candy is not taking you. So that's she has nothing left. It's like when she was talking to candy and candy was trying to justify why she needs to make sure that that she. No, I'm sorry. Why can't he was working with Tom and Lola running out of the names, which is all mixed up in my head, and she was talking to taymor and taymor was just like yet. I guess you're right. It does make sense that you're working with Tom. And this is the exact same thing. She's she's at now, she just has nothing left to say. Yeah. So she she does any way back. She does keep trying to fight back. But it is it is not really working out here. So she they talked with. With Ricky again and taymor continues. Like, hey, put candy and Dina. Remember how much we don't like Dina and Ricky eventually just says, hey, look, if you want to vote to keep candy because you don't want to mess up your relationship with. That's that's fine. That's cool. And this is a this is again, I feel like an indicator that the reason the real reason Ricky wants candy gone because he recognizes that tame mar wants her to stay and that they probably have some kind of deal. So he's like, look, I get it. If if you don't want to Vic's candy if you wanna be a vote to keep candy. That's fine. I will break the tie and candy. So that is the plan for now things could change theoretically today, they have changed quite a bit already. And I know there are some people that think is is it possible Ricky is setting this up so that he can break the tie in candies favors. So that she honors her deal with him. I personally don't think that is the case. But but I am not willing to say with one hundred. Percents certainty. That candy is completely out quite yet. Which is why we will briefly go over candies game. It's not going to be quite as thorough as the other two. I do think that she is probably got one foot out the door at this point. So that is that is our update for today. Yeah. I think once the idea got put back into lo-lose head that that her original intentions of getting candy out this week are now a possibility again, I think she latched onto that she she went to taymor. And she was like, listen, this is this is our chance we have to make this shot. We regretted it last time when we took out Joey instead of candy. We're not gonna regret it. Again. This time we're going to make sure we do the right thing. And I personally do feel like is the end of the road for candy here. But you know, I guess these people have proven to be pretty unpredictable so still a half day left that we won't see because they're about to say goodbye, fifteen minutes. Yeah. So. I personally think that taymor is now only only just now starting to be like, okay? So if candies not here who do I take the that's not it's my first one reading still not exactly sure who she would take. But I do lean Ricky. So let's go over there games here. We're going to start with Dina. Because I think that dean is an interesting one. Deana comes into the game. She has she is connected to Jonathan and she comes in. She's she bonds with candy she bonds with Kato people talk about how she's in a showman's with Kato, obviously, not true. But but she does bond with him and candy. She is an option to go on the block as just an easy person to be up there upon whatever Jonathan protects her. But we also know that Jonathan was on the block, we know what everything that happened with the Jonathan alliance that crumbled, and so she wants to protect Jonathan, but she is not going to be able to and she votes to visit candy in order to protect him. But it's not enough. Jonathan is a victory we head into week two. She roots for Joey in the H competition because Joey was on team Jonathan and that upsets Kato, but she's upset with Kato and he's upset with her. And so he wants to Victor puts her on the block. Meanwhile, candy is upset with DNA because because candy was voted out by DNA. After they bonded. And so their elation ship is is crumbling a little bit deny not doing too. Well this point in the game. Ryan does approach her with an offer to create some kind of counter alliance to go against the Tom Kato, Natalie low low group, and she's like, yeah. I'm all about that. But we should not trust Ricky. You're talking about Ricky. We definitely shouldn't trust Ricky. And then she starts to. Okay. She's on the block. She's got this big alliance against her. She's lost her relationships. Things are not looking great. She's she was approached by Ryan. But Ryan got one foot out the door. She's she's the current backup plan. If Reiner Joey wins the veto then she's going to be a victim. So she goes, she talks to Cato. She does she lays a guilt trip on him. She says, hey Kato. I can't believe this happened. I was upset you were upset. She talks with them for a little while he comes away from that conversation thinking, you know, what we can work with deny. I actually do feel good about Dina. He talked with Tom. They both agree. They actually would like to see Dina stay over taymor. If the veto is one by Ryan or Joey. So they now are starting to pull Dina back end. She's got some more allies. Again. Meanwhile, taymor is pissing off her group so much that they want team are out this week if they have the possibility so separately they have also decided they would like to keep DNA over tame, mar. And just like that mar is safe. But ultimately doesn't matter because Ryan or Joey do not win. The veto. Ryan is a victim in week two. What do you think and so far, Matt? I'm thinking Dina's still doesn't know where she is. She's took her a long time to to get into the game. Not only just playing it in the way that she is now where she's trying to actively save herself, you know, in these last few days, but she really just didn't know what was going on early on. And there was people that she had these connections with you know, specifically, she was kind of close with Kato. So such a blindside when Kato is like you were rooting for the for Joey. And now, I'm putting you on the block like the worst decision Kato possibly could have made all season long, which like it didn't damage their relationship permanently. But I mean as time goes on and Dina's going to get closer to candy and not as close with the two guys, you know. 'cause 'cause a few waves that probably didn't need to happen. If a kid it wasn't such a dummy. Yes. Something that. I think when we go over Dina's game is that it's hard to articulate her style of play which is very much like she comes in. She's non-threatening. She knows she's non-threatening. And her her basic goal is to just make people feel good about her any conversation. She's in she agrees. She lets you take the lead. And she is on your side. She's I said from the very start. She's such a mom, and this is she's such like a like a cheerleader for you. And so that is very effective when she turns that on and so she does a good job in week two to keep herself safe on the off chance that the veto is one and we came are helps by doing damage to her own game. But also puts puts in an assist by helping her own game with. With Kato and Tom Izzo. We head into the next week. Tom is going to win the next h wage. He does not want Dina out. He feels good about her now. So so she is safe this week. K mart is sorry deana is going to the power is introduced is going to tell Kato. Hey, K mart has the power. I can read it all over her face. She has the power believe me catos. Like, Nah, I think candy has it. Kato tells her you can't trust anyone you can't trust anyone. But me and Tom this upsets Stein. She's like what why what are you talking about? What's happening when here DNA? She gets. She gets upset. She goes to Ricky. She's like catos telling me these things she ends up getting into a fight with candy. They finally kind of hash it out about the vote from week one. Where candy let's her know how upset she was that. She did that DNA is a bit tipsy here. And does not articulate herself. Very well. But after the fight with things hashed out there are able to make up and and rekindle their relationship, which is very important for DNA moving forward. The best night of the season by far in terms of like giving us any kind of entertainment drunk Dina by the by the hot tub with Ricky and then running into the gym and all that stuff that was the most fun Dina that we've had so Tom and Cato at this point tell her we need we need you to vote to keep Joey. That's what we need you to do. And she said, okay, we're keeping Joey that's t-. Joey is team Tom and keta? That's definitely was happening. She then has a run in with Ricky and the gym. That was one of the highlights of the season for me. Check out the the life. You'd update for that day. I don't know exactly what day it was. But it was a fun. It was fun recap. She is going to be approached by Lolo and Natalie this is going to be an occurrence that happens quite often. After this point where they try to flip her against the guys they say, hey, Tom, and Cato are terrible people. You don't wanna work with them? Do you see how Kato talk to you? It was disgusting. Do you see how Tom operates? It's disgusting and Dina's like, yeah, you're right. Oh, man. They're mean, people aren't they? Oh, man. That's terrible. Yeah. I totally hear what you're saying. Definitely. And then after the conversation does nothing about it. Because like I said, she's just your cheerleader in any conversation. And so they feel like they can approach her all the time. Even though she never actually gives them anything. She responds positively enough that they feel like. Maybe later, maybe we'll get her next time. So then Kato says, hey, hey, never mind. Not keeping Joey we're keeping candy. She's like, oh, okay. That's cool. Joey is a victim. Week four taymor Wednesday chew h Dina's celebrates with the gold room. Hey, we're getting Tom and Katie out. She's like party time. Again, she's she's sneaky that Dino. And then doesn't nothing else to be done Cato. And Tom are on the block keta was victim week five Dina starts talking with candy about how hey. We need to get Natalie out. If we went h over the course of the previous week, she is again, a rekindled this relationship candy and they're both on the same team. They're both on the same page. They need to target the athletes in particular, Natalie. She's the biggest threat Tom is going to win the wage. And here we go plans on it's time to do. This tame is going to complain to Dina about candy being selfish. Talking to Tom tamer is going to give candy a heads up about Dina's gonna give candy a heads up taymor. Dean is gonna talk with Tom and her one on one and say, hey, it's me it's you it's candy versus the athletes in taymor. That's what's going on. I know you don't understand this. But that's what's going on Tom and Tom is like, yeah. But I think I've flipped Lolo. And she's like no you have not flipped low low. You are a dummy. And he's like, but Ricky, and she's like, no Natalie is the biggest threat. This is probably Dina's best to moment in terms of clarity. And and smartness. And we're gonna see. Lolo and Natalie try to flip her again. Hey. Tom's a terrible person. Did you see what he's done? He's did you see him threaten people? Do you see him bully people? And it was like, oh, yeah. Man. But than one guy that guy Tom Izzo, man, then she's going to go to candy and be like, I feel so bad for Tom. This is probably Dina's best part of the game because she identifies who she wants her target to be between all the conversations with candy. She identifies the fact that Natalie needs to go they are in a spot where they can take her out. They just have to kind of keep on Tom it which candy does and Dina does a little less effectively. But she still does some pushing whenever she talks to him. So, you know, while the rest of her game has kind of been about being a piece and other people's game like her and candy become a solid two votes. That are going to completely be the most important factor in the house like they are the house at this point taymor says that even at one point that that whoever the two of them, candy and Dana decide to go is going to be the person who ends up a victim. So this is where Deena. Really kind of kicked it up a little bit. Yes. And she is going to feeling bad for Tom. She's gonna make him tuna melts. She's going to bring them upstairs to him. She's going to be talking on the feeds about Jonathan how much she loves him. She talks about some of the other jury members her jury management that again, it's hard to talk about in a game recap because it's not super relevant to the events that were occurring. But her jury management is on point whether she meant to or not so important to note, she is she's pleased. When Tom ends up not using the veto on ended up using the veto on Ricky. It means that that Natalie is going to be going home. She's very happy about that Ricky and taymor going to try and convince her in candy to keep Natalie. But they're having none of it. Dna is also going to then successfully repair, Tom and candies relationship because they had faltered a bit after candy revealed some things about Tom's plan to tame our, but Dina gets them back in a room together and says, hey, we need to work together. We only have each other. We need to do this pretty vital move. If they had ended up winning any competitions. But they did not Natalie is going to be a victim. Then Tom is going to be a victim. And then Ricky is going to win the H and the events of this week occur. And as we can to Dina not doing a terrible job. I think she probably did get a little bit outplayed by candy. But almost two outplayed by candy because when candy in taymor end up saying the same thing, it makes Tina again being the person that Dina is it works for her. And she knows how to play that. And so now she will be in the final four probably with a decent chance to win the game of big brother celebrity to all. She needs to do is entering the easy questions to get to a tiebreaker. And then it's basically a crap shoot. And then if she wins, then she takes whoever and wins the game. Yeah. Her game has been similar to you know. It's not the same exact thing. But somebody like Jordan, Lloyd, maybe who you know, they are probably going to be better at the game unintentionally than a lot of people are intentionally. That's like a common saying, she she is in like, I said, she doesn't she didn't know the game going into it. And she didn't have a strategy coming into it. She was just she she was just kind of doubting to everything going on around her and as time went on. And she kind of learned what to do. But she was never really in a great position to be able to control what to do until the week with Natalie potentially going home, which of course, her and candy successfully made happen, but a big part of Dina's game has been whether or not she's playing stupid, or if she actually is kind them, you know, they they've long suspected she can't actually be this ditzy Ray like this has got to be an act, and you know, it's still unclear I guess at least from my perspective. Whether she is doing this on purpose or not, I feel like I have to think that being who she is being, you know. Mama jer to Lindsay Lohan being as successful as her family has been that. She's not actually this stupid. I have to feel like once she realized that people see her as as this person that maybe she has played it up a little bit just to be like. Yeah. I don't know. What's going on? Like, I don't know. People are just telling me things left and right. And I don't really know what to do with all the information. And he's being mean, and you're being nice, and blah, blah, blah. So I have to give her a little bit of credit. I think that she has played it up. But it's just this. This is where we're at here. Like, you said, you know, it's just this final because she can win it. Then she has a jury votes locked up because regardless of how she got here. She has been nice to everybody along the way, she hasn't made any enemies and she hasn't. She's played a good game of celebrity big, brother. Yeah. I think that her moments of clarity say to me that she definitely understands what she's doing. And you know, somebody Trent welcome on the Chad says Dina changes her tune in each new grouping. She definitely at least somewhat knows what she's doing. And I agree Dina knows how to adapt to a social situation. And and she's so non-threatening that it just it works for her to do that. I think that she, you know, there are definitely aspects of her that are a little bit ditsy that that are a little out there. But she definitely understands how to play her version of the game. And I was thinking about a comparison. How do you feel about Kevin from big brother nineteen? I feel like I feel like they've played pretty similarly were Kevin if he didn't especially if you didn't have a Paul in there to really take over and direct his actions. If Paul was more of a candy than I really feel like they've they've played pretty similarly where Kevin was able to lie when he needed to. He was able to float around when he needed to. He was very friendly. He probably would have wanted jury vote pretty handily. It was just a matter of getting there. And if again, if Paul hadn't been there, Kevin probably would have slipped by a lot longer. So I I feel like I feel like that's a decent one. All right. So we just have to make sure that we keep d. Anna lo Han far away from swaggie. She gets out of the house is what you're saying. Yes. I can I can kinda see where you're coming from. I I always felt like Kevin was kind of maybe playing it up for the cameras more. Because like he going into the season. He knew his daughters were the one who wanted to get him on the show. They they knew he was like a fun personality. And I feel like the entire time. He was going for being that fun. Tv character TV personality. I think he'd been on the UT. I mean, we're having their personalities are not super similar. But I think they're gameplay style is I just feel like like Kevin was never like invested as like I feel like Dina honestly might be slightly better for player. Maybe because I feel like she's put more effort later in the game into like finding a way to to attempt to adapt to to win. Let's see what you're saying. I just feel like now I'm thinking about like Kevin game. And. Something else to know too. Is that like? I think a lot of people are really down on DNA playing the game. But DNA is the person who we at least on this podcast have were successfully able to predict would have a good shot to win the game from the very start more. So than any other player, we as soon as we saw Dina in that house playing the way that she did we were like, hey, she's probably going to get to the end. She's probably going to have a one in four shot of winning the whole game. And that's huge. Whether even if she didn't intend it, which I do think she did that's still huge in terms of win equity for season of big, brother. Do not sleep on Dina. Lohan is all on say, I might sleep on her a little bit just because, you know, her competition ability has been so so we compared to all these other. That's that's the thing if she was better at competitions. She probably wouldn't have lasted this long. I guess I'm tame are still trying to convince everybody that she is a big comfort for her one comprehensive where she lasted on the wall for a little while. That's not tomorrow it it's not working. He's not gonna competitions. It's better to not be good competitions. Especially if you are this archetype. All right. Eventually, you know, eventually kind of run out of room. If you're not gonna competitions. Or someone which is often a crap shoot almost purse go. There you go. So so let's talk about team are let's talk about humor taymor starts the game. She comes in with a relationship pre existing relationship with candy. It's also the biggest fan of the game heading into the game. She knows the most about the show she is pulled into the Jonathan alliance. But that that breaks up she ends up getting into a fight with candy that separates her from her roommate's a bit because she really wants candy out. And they and they're saying no we need Jonathan how they get into a fight all week about that. She also gets into a fight with Ricky because she says she saw him in a room with candy. And he says he wasn't in a room with candy. We can confirm he was not in a room with candy. So that further separates her from her roommate's. She continues to fight. She wants to get rid of candy. That's basically her only goal in the first week. But Natalie and Lolo are very firm saying, no, we are not taking candy out. We. We are taking Jonathan out. She eventually gives in and makes up with candy a little bit at least. And then Jonathan is going to be evicted. And that was basically Mars first week. One of the worst starts. You know, a to to the season for for taymor as she's just completely. I guess, you know, of course, she had no way to suspect. The candy was going to be in the house. So seeing candy completely just threw her off. And then you know, all the stuff going on with mooch. I feel like her head was just all over the place. And then she gets in fights with the relevancy and all that. It's just not a good start. Yes. Not not the greatest start. Here. Cato is going to win the next day wage and Natalie has pissed star tame Mars piston Natalie and gets into a little bit of a fight with Natalie about why has she dropped from the competition, which puts her endanger she's pissed about that. She also has going to get into a fight with Lolo about about candy and talking but candy, and what candy said and also what Lola was talking about with Natalie and Ricky the night before after Kedah won the H and how they're talking about her being upon and so they get it. That's the say it, then do it then say, then do it tomorrow is going to be nominated by Kato. On the block next to Dina as we said initially the plan was if Ryan or Joey win the veto because Ryan is the backdoor plan then Dina will be voted out next to tame are they were just trying to figure out how do we stop tamer from blowing up if we put on the block as a pawn? She did kind of blow up she gets into a fight with Kato about her nominee about his nomination speech about her son. And she is very mad at Kato. She's still mad at Ricky about the him being room with candy thing. And she tells Natalie and Lolo that she just her plan is from this point. She's just not gonna talk game with them anymore. Because all they do is disagree and she wants to remain friends with them. So she just needs to not talk him with them anymore. That's that's the only thing that will maintain their friendship. She's also going to go a little bit rogue here and tell Ryan, hey, Lolo, Ricky, Natalie, Tom, and Cato are all in an alliance, and they're working against you. You need to be careful about that at this point Natalie and low low there so done with. She's going rogue. She's getting into fights with them. They're so done with her. They decide we're going to keep DNA over if we can get out this week. We're going to have Ryan or Joey win that when that veto because she's she's clearly just not worth working with Tom and Kato are also going to separately decide they want the same thing as we talked about Dino worked on them. However, Brian or Joey did not win the veto. And Ryan is going to be a victim. Yeah. This is the the worst taymor is game. We'll get like if you're looking at looking at it on a graph. Maybe even in terms of like the ratings that she's gotten in the in the stock watch forms, and all that that, you know, she started going like really low low low low hit like a really bad spot here potentially could have been a victim. And then I mean since then it's just gone up. But I think. I mean, everybody everybody's games were just trying to be figuring out at this point. They were trying to figure out who their teammates were going to be who they were going to work with going forward, you had Natalie and Lolo potentially working with Tom and Kato and tame are very very clearly saw that she was on the outs of that as as tight as this gold room became overtime. They there was there was cracks in the beginning. There was definitely plenty of talk about can we actually have taymor on our team if she's going to be so focused on candy. She's not really thinking, clearly, she's not, you know, she blows up at any opportunity. So you know, her game very easily could have ended this week. Luckily, didn't it's it's kind of like. Can't think of when thinking of the I mean, plenty of players in big brother, you know, get saved early on in their game and propel to do much better over time. So luckily, she she she made it through. Yes. I'm seeing right now Tim are talking to the cameras. She seems a very angry that the candy is going to be leaving. She says that I'm astonished at the greed and lust for money. That's in this house. They tried it. They're going to tell me last night and got no choice. They're going to the they're going to kick candy off, and I'm not supposed to tell her. So she's not happy. I wonder if the if the anger is coming from the fact that they made an agreement last night, we won't tell her or if it's just she doesn't want to see candy go either way, she needs to be thanking Ricky for helping make this decision. So that she actually has a shot at winning. But maybe you'll find that out one day. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is like if Ross was going to win and then somebody managed. Take him out. And then Melissa ended up winning because she didn't take Roz because she thought she was going to lose trust. Anyway, think she just hey, she I mean, not think like she does kinda just hate having no control over the situation. And she thought that she had this on lock she thought that candy was going to stay. And obviously the votes are not there anymore. You know, she was very clearly told last night that they change their minds as so. Back to week two. And this was really definitely a low point in in Mars game is a very poorly played week. Really the first two eviction cycles were were very poorly played here. She goes into week three being one of the main targets. She was almost a victim week to one of the main targets week three. Tom is going to win the HOA JR. And again, she was she might have needed to win this H wage, and she she decided against playing in it, which is understandable. I guess if you are afraid of haunted houses, but definitely not exactly the best game play. Tom is the consensus targets? Here are Joey or tame mar and they want both of them on the block, really. And if one of them is safe than the other one is going to go. Luckily, though for taymor two things happen. I she is awarded the power of the publicist which is going to keep her safe for the next two weeks. Second Tom has it in for Ricky because Ricky called him a prick, and he doesn't like that. So Tom wants to back door Ricky, and he also avoids putting taymor on the block because the power was announced and Kato gotta read that candy had it, Tom THAAD that Joey might have it. So instead of putting taymor on the block like he had planned. He decided to put Joey and candy on the block to see if that would flush the power it did not end up flushing the power. So Tom is going to have a conversation with Tamar to get a sense of do stay mar have the power his is to still back Ricky, but he wants to get a sense of who has the power because he thinks that will be a good excuse to put Ricky on the block taymor is going to get into a fight with Tom about this conversation where she feels like he's threatening her. Is when things start to take off a little bit in terms of the the nastiness. Natalie and low low and Ricky all want taymor on the block as a replacement at the very least to flush the power again, though. Luckily for KMart Tom really wants to target Ricky, so because they're trying to target Ricky the women are going to flip on Tom and Kato, and Joey is going to pitch to the women and taymor that they all have to work together against Tom and Kato they need team. Are they need Joey they need to all work against Tom and Kato. And this is the turning point in taymor is game where she is finally grouped up with them against Tom and Kato. There's finally a common enemy that they need to band together against and so came are is going to very quickly piss them off again, though by trying to say, hey, we should vote Joey out and keep candy, and they get pissed all over again. And they're like, oh, I can't believe tomorrow. Okay. So what we need to do is keep Joey, and then we'll take taymor as soon as we get rid of Tom Kato. But tame are. Stands for ground and says, no, I'm not voting out candy. She's a friend on the outside of the house, and I don't wanna ruin my relationship. So candy is going to stay, and that's it. This is also when all of the fights happened. We have covered. Plenty already jury. Management's? We talked about how Dina's was excellent tame Mars, definitely not very good at all very very poor jury management in terms of the fights and the trash talking behind people's backs and so on and such four. Yeah. I mean fair that that the fights and all that stuff or not looking great for her in the house. But do remember that I guess Ryan Jonathan and Joey are all going out of the house, and none of them are holding any kind of ill feelings towards or Ryan in her head a great relationship the entire time that that they were together Jonathan I think all of his resentment towards Natalie and Lolo for screwing him over because taymor wasn't even in that group and Joey came out of the house say it wasn't. He with somebody who said taymor is playing the best game in there. So it did seem like even though she was fighting with people in the house the people out. Outside of the house weren't really mad at her. Right. Which is why pointing out this moment is where the bad jury. It was where she is fighting with people talking behind their backs, and is the primary cause I believe of people like Jonathan who would otherwise have no ill-will toward Maher talking about how he would wanna walk off the stage of taymor was against Ricky that comes from somewhere. And I think it comes from this week in particular. So very very bad jury management in this in this, particular instance, because again, she was doing decently with Jerry management before. But this just really starts to fall apart here, I think for taymor, and if she chooses the final two jury vote, I think it stems from this week moving forward in terms of jury management. She does almost benefit though, from the fact that it wasn't just her the fact that, you know, her showroom is being viewed as as the mean girls, the the angry people. So you know, the fact that that Natalie in Lollo joined in on the all the meanness along the way obviously helps her out but in. Terms of like, not just you know thinking about the jury management thinking about her position in the game. Getting the power really like rejuvenated her it really gave for like a whole new life. She was she was able to realize. Okay, I'm safe this this week, or whenever I need to use his power like I can actually work on on my game a little bit and not just, you know, be be fighting from the bottom here. And you know, she's had these connections with the people in her room all this time. And now that she has the power I feel like she has a whole new confidence that she is going to take forward. You know, even though like we're saying the Jerry management is is a little rough year or a lot of a lot of rough year. Specially with the time and stuff, but I feel like she does have a drive to just to keep going. So yes, I will say that. If she does win the game. I think it is it is because Natalie herb because low low and to some extent, Ricky were also very very bad Terry management. We're not looking at anybody who did a good job of Jerry management. If we're if Dino or candy are. Not sitting there in the final two were just looking at who did worse or if they're both all equally terrible than who just happens to take the win home. Based on who they're sitting next to Jonathan is saying, you know, if it's people from this room that are in the final final two, I'm not going to be happy. But that's that's what Burke's trying to get at here. He's trying to make sure that no candy's gone, and then they can beat DNA. So that two of them have to be sitting there. So yes, so we then head into week four after Joe is a victim and taymor is going to win this h h which we pointed out at the time was just such a massive mistake. This is again, I think a low point for tame Mars game where she was safe. She had two sides of the house going after each other. They would have continued to go after each other and everything would have been great for her. She ends up getting bailed out in the next week with a particular outcome that kind of nullifies this error, but should again be pointed out. How massive mistake. It was it was this would have been so so easy for her to to not win this h h but but she does and she wants Kato and Tom out KEDO. I she tries to get Tom to apologize for for the bullying, which makes Tom in particular, focus more on her than Lolo in terms of who's trying to pin the bullying on me. He says he's feels he feels bullied by taymor. And he feels that maybe taymor and Ricky are the people who are manipulating Lolo and Natalie to to think that he's bullying them. Then. Natalie is still pissed a taymor about how candy is still in the game and candies talking with Tom and so- taymor gets mad at candy for talking to Tom and she has to start walking this tightrope that that is between this she's working with candy on one on one side. She's working with Natalie low low and Ricky on the other side, Natalie low and Ricky are mad at candy. She's mad at candy. But she's also trying to protect candy from them because she wants to keep candy. And I think that she is definitely on board with taking candidate the final two at this point where she she's bonded with candy. Can we saw in the recap episode that it meant a lot to her that candy call to refrained? And I think that was really the moment where she was like, you know, what candies. My thing I'm taking candy to the end. That's my personal read on it. She does she just say in the diary room at one point that she wanted to take candy to the final two. So I think that's a pretty solid thing to say this point. So that's basically her plan again this week very poorly executed, but the by the latter half of the week. She starts to walk this tightrope between the gold room and candy, and that's probably the greatest strength of her game from this point moving forward. But again can't be under celled just how bad it was to win. This h in the first place Cato will be a victim. And and very luckily for her Tom is going to win the next day. H I feel like my view of that entire week is probably like the complete opposite of what you're saying here. Just because I feel like when you look at who she was up against in that h h it was either her or Tom and while I understand that she had the power. She would have been able to save herself having her entire room potentially behind her was and keeping Tom and Kato out of power because there was no going back to working with Tom and Kato. We're going to be a strong enemy and the other side they wanted to work with her at the time. I don't think she should have worked with them. I don't think there's any benefit in her straying away from her room who the numbers are they're they're able to win comps, and Tom and Katie were clearly becoming the bad guys of the house. I don't think there's any benefited and her switching over to that you wouldn't she didn't have to switch over to that side. She just had to let them win in h which she eventually it's going to happen. Like the thing that needs to happen is that Tom or KEDO needs to win a nature wage, and then they need to take out at least one of Ricky Natalie and low low because that trio was just very strong, and they were never going to take can never gonna take taymor. In fact, they wanted tame mar out at that point. And if if the shot didn't get taken at them if Tom hadn't won this next H O H, then they were than Samar's in massive trouble because Tom leaves next and then Lolo wins the next day true age and looking at Dina. Candy and taymor with the whole trio there, they probably go after candy I but taymor is is not cracking through that the trio and they're going to they're going to win out from this point on. So Tom winning that h wage saved her game. One hundred percent. Remembering that, you know, there was a lot of people talking about how they, you know, somebody needs to break up the room, and you know, it probably wouldn't be here. So I mean, that's that's totally fair point. I don't know. It's a tricky spot because Tom and Katie had been you know, they proved themselves to be or not that they did much to put themselves in this spot. But they had become the enemy, and it just seemed like like a like. Any kind of inclination that she was working with them or that she was agreeing with a plan of theirs. Even if I maybe I'm being looking at it oriented, like basically what happened in the next in this week when Tom Wednesay HOA JR. Is exactly what could have happened earlier where she is still working with the women, but Tom goes after Ricky or whoever and then and then one of them is gone. And then it's the Natalie and Lolo left versus Tom and Kato and tame are still in the middle at that point. She can choose if she wins to side with the gold room, which is probably her best move with candy on the other side, and she can move forward with that basically everything that did eventually happen. Because Tom happened to be the person that one that h wage could have happened earlier, and she would have been safe that week because she had the power anyway, not that she was likely to be a target in the first place. So. You know, like I said, it doesn't end up mattering because Tom wins the wage, but I think that if Tom hadn't won that h wage things are looking very very different for Tim on. I think maybe my takeaway is just that. It sounds like you're saying that that week was bad for her. Or maybe maybe I don't like the maybe I'm just saying that for her Tom winning the next day to wage reverse to that and put it back to where it should have been. Okay. I think what I'm trying to say. It's just I don't think it was bad for her. I think it could have been better. I think it was just like like at any point of the game should be could have made a better move. But I think that she was fine. We're what ended up happening, right? What what ended up happening? What I'm saying? Is that if Tom hadn't one that h wage that would have been the thing that was very bad for her and probably would have seen signal at the end of her game. But because Tom won the H h eight turned out to not it's easy to look back and say, hey, it wasn't bad because it turned out. All right. But it only turned out. Alright because Tom on the next h h well, she also played the week. You know, given the h. That she had she used it as a great opportunity to to make her allies feel bonded sewer. And they they were not gonna turn on her in the following. They were like you came through you pulled through you won this calm. You're taking out the bad guys. Now, we got you going forward. So I do think that it will ultimately worked out that wasn't exactly how they were feeling that week. They they were still not taymor for keeping candy. And they were still talking about taking are out as soon as they got rid of Tom and Kato, and so KEDO was evicted this week, but but tamer was still on their radar. It wasn't until Tom when the H h this following week that that they were really pissed at Tom and candy because they saw that candy was working with Tom to try and help him win that h you're wage, and then it was talking with Tom afterward that they started to finally go. Okay. We need t- mar. And then even that week they were like, how do we get rid of taymor? Instead of one of us is so it wasn't until the end of that week that the taymor was really solidified with the rest of the gold room. That I have here. So like is that? That's that's my perspective based on the notes that I have written down here. So, you know, Matt Matt has has given his case. I just I've got my notes here. I'm letting you know what is down here based on what I saw happen. I definitely think that was a very very bad bad week for for taymor overall. However, I think that most of what Matt is talking about with that week can be applied to this week. When Tom the H Tomlin's the wage this is very good for taymor. She's mad that Tom has made it this far in the game. But but it's a good thing that he's h h right now, Natalie and lo-lower still pissed taymor and more. So at candy at this point because candy is still there and are kept candy. They tell her candy's going to win this thing. Kmart does not agree. She says, what are you talking about candy can't win this thing? Again, I think this is K mart. Thinking that she plans on taking candy to the final two at this point. She does get mad at candy for talking to Tom and candies. Like, whatever. I of course, I'm gonna talk to Tom Tom wants Ricky out this week. And so he wants to make a deal with taymor to keep him safe next week if he doesn't put her on the block, she dodges the deal. She does not want any part of this deal. She wants Tom out as soon as she can make that happen. Natalie in Lolo are going to try and figure out how they can make taymor leave instead of one of them. They think that if Lolo wins the veto, then they can get taymor on the block. And then hopefully, they can somehow convince people to go and victim are instead of them. But they don't have to worry about that situation because Lolo isn't even chosen for the veto. So. So then Tom is going to win the veto taymor is going to misread a situation. Where candy is talking about Tom potentially using the veto? She thinks that Tom is going to put her on the block when really he was thinking about Lolo, and she's going to go off on Tom and and get him to hide in the room for a little while. Which point he's going to use the veto on Ricky and put Lolo up in Ricky's place, which means that Natalie is in danger here taymor is going to work with Ricky and Natalie to try and keep Natalie safe. She's going to try and convince candy and Lolo are sorry, candy and Dina that they need to get rid of Lolo. But she is not going to be particularly successful. However in the process of this happening. She is going to bond with these roommates more. The fact that Natalie is leaving opens the door for taymor to get closer with them. There's a new trio in the works, and it's going to be Lolo, Ricky and taymor. This was a huge week for taymor in terms of positioning. Now that she solidly with this group. And she has a possibility of them taking her to the final two whereas previously she did not plus having candy on the side working keeping her safe on that end. She's starting to look like she's in one of the best spots in the game. Along with Ricky. She does fail to keep Natalie around, which is not the greatest, although probably ends up being never mind that ends up being a huge boon for her because Natalie would've taken Ricky for sure and Ricky would have taken Natalie for sure Lolo actually turns out to be the better option. So a good thing that she does not succeed here and Natalie is going to be a victim. And then we're gonna head into the double of action we see a little bit of what she's doing this week with. What she did last week in terms of. Yeah. I don't really care. I guess what happens, but you know, Dina's should probably be the one to go. And this is what she's saying last week. She saying it's fine. Whatever we decide to do. But I feel like Natalie's a stronger competitor. And maybe a little Chicago. I because we need Natalie this day and help us take out, Tom. And like you said it didn't really work out for her. But the connection she had with Natalie. I think she just felt a lot better about her Lolo is obviously somebody that she's been fighting with the entire game probably a little bit harder to control in the future in case anything else messy happened. So, you know, it's not it wasn't make a break here having low versus Natalie. You know, obviously, she didn't succeed in what she wanted to have happened. But. The way like you said the way that she the spot that she's in the house right now the way she set herself up between candy, and you know, room alliance. She is I struggled to find somebody in a better spot in the game. Then her right now in terms of having protection on on all all sides. Yes. So so like this like I said this week doing in my opinion, the work of what should have happened the previous week, but it's happening anyway. And tame our has now K mart is now in the position that I think that she starts to like this is this is where she needs to be to play this game correctly. And she is going to start to do better in terms of positioning. And getting to the end, I think this is where her knowledge of the game starts to come into a lot better. Her jury management. Still leaves a lot to be desired. The double eviction is going to happen. Tom is going to be a victim. And she is going to dance as he leaves. She's going to admit at on the feeds afterward, and then a little bit in the episode as well afterward that that she was dancing because she got Tom out and he deserved it, and nobody should associate with Tom socially after the show. These are not great things during management like I said still leaves a lot to be desired especially because Ricky and low low herbs are starting to be more respectful toward the victim houseguests. However, her positioning is is much better. She is basically locking in a spot in the final four, and then she is making some deals with with the final two in mind. So Ricky is going to win the next H? And basically everything that we talked about that happened yesterday on the feeds, that's that's happening. Now, she is she's making deal a final to deal with Ricky. She is making a final deal with Lolo. She has a final to deal with taymor are start with candy. And so it's starting to look decent in terms of her getting to the final two. There are some hiccups along the way DNA has convinced Lolo that she has a better shot against Ricky. So that might put a little bit of a stop in net and low taking taymor. Taymor to the final two, which is her best chance. I also think that I do believe that she still does plan on taking candy to the final two if she is able to so right before the feeds cut for good as they did as we were speaking just a little bit ago that she was fighting Ricky hard to keep candy in the game. Really pulling all putting up pulling out all the stops. Like, this does not feel right to me. Dino should not be in the game as she's really fighting hard. I think that if she loses this battle it is better for her that she does lose. So it's kind of a tale of two situations. I think she's probably playing right now the best game in terms of getting to the final two. I think she's probably playing the worst game in terms of winning in the final two that doesn't mean she can't win in the final two things can play out in a way that end up with her getting the win. But I do think that if she was succeeding at what she was trying to accomplish she would have much less of a chance of winning the game. But still something to be I think admired is that she is playing much better than Ricky or Lolo or anybody else in terms of she's actually willing to lie to people right now. She's actually making deals to get to the final two that I think if we're looking at her game as a whole head this this final week has been her strongest in terms of gameplay and strategy. And and thank God. She is in because nobody else is doing it at all and her personality her just just who she is. This is tame are the fact that you know, she is loud. She's she's going to tell you how she feels. And she, you know, may even if she gets mixed up with her words for for a second. She's very quickly able to rebound I think she has made a couple hiccups along the way. But just the fact that she is she. Like, I don't know what really impresses me. It was. I guess the fact that I still feel like nobody knows for sure that she has the power. I think that she did her best during that week. I stand by that that I think she did her best to pretend that she didn't. And even if she made a hiccup along the way and somebody thought for a second that she had the power just the fact that she is able to go off on Tom. Because of course, she's going to go off because this is taymor. She just gets mad about things all the time. Like, why are you accusing me of having the power? What did I do to to make you think that I would have the power, and then she's going to Natalie Lolo saying a Tom thinks I have the power. There's what reason does he have to think that I have the power. It's just just in the same way that Dina benefits from naturally doing. Well because of who she is as a person in the game. I feel like taymor has a similar thing that just who she is people expect that this is just this is just her acting as normal as tame are nor- normally would. So I feel like that's an advantage that helps her do better than she would otherwise. I mean, I think that I. In terms of how the fans respond to tame. I think the fans are like, hey, this is tame are the jury. I'm not quite as sure feels the same way we could certainly find that. That's their interpretation when it comes to the finale tonight and the vote, but personally based on how I've seen the jury react and their social media. I don't really think that they see tame are in that same way. I'm also, I'm also saying more. So in terms of like, the players still inside the house. I'm not really talking about the jury vote. I'm talking about like also how she how she maneuvers around playing the game with the people in there like getting them to believe what she's saying whatnot. I will also say in the house, I think that she was a lot more explosive in the first half and that explosiveness did put her in danger quite a lot. And I think there were multiple times where she could have gone home. Because of that what she what she was doing in terms of getting in fights with candy getting into fights with her lines members telling them, she wouldn't even wanna talk strategy with them anymore. I do think that that got them to turn on her. And I think that when she she finally started to tone it down at least with her alliance members is when she started to do better in terms of keeping her allies and keeping herself safe from from vixen. So personally, I, you know, I I would say I disagree with the assessment that that her personality helps her in that way. I think that it's I think that it's her it's her knowledge for her knowledge of the game and her strategic acumen that that helps her get forward move forward in the game in terms of keeping yourself safe. And I think that the blow ups are things that are a detriment to her both in terms of jury management and in terms of succeeding in her strategic maneuvers. However, I think that towards the end of the game as we're talking about her now, I think that she has managed to achieve the right balance, or at least close to the right balance of she's not getting into many fights with people. She's doing more lying. She's. Doing more manipulation. And she's being more successful at it. So I would say personally that that's my view on on mar. And where she is right now. And where she is when she's the most successful. So for for me looking at Mars overall game. I think it was a story of coming into the game thinking that she was going to play a certain way running into candy getting into some explosive fights really making some mistakes along the way in the first few weeks the first two weeks, not great for her. She was almost a victim. And we three she gets the power. And I think I think this is kind of starting to be a turning point here. I think she makes a massive mistake and week four it sets her back. I think she gets lucky and week five it puts her back on track. And then from that point forward she is able to figure out the right formula for moving forward in the game. And I think that her knowledge and her ability to strategize based on that knowledge is what has gotten her to this point in the final four where I do think she has a chance to. Win. It's, but but again, I think another part of taymor story is the jury management aspect, and it'll be interesting to see. How that works for her moving forward. I think that you know. She has a good chance to be Lolo potentially. She might be able to beat Ricky. But I think that this part of her story is going to be left untold until we hear from the jury, and we'll see what happens tonight. I I really have no idea what's going to potentially happen with this, Jerry. I think I said this could go either way it really could they they could be annoyed with how she's been acting all season, or they could just you know, the fact that she is likable to the fact that she has so many fans tells you that there are people that she's likable too. And I feel like like I said earlier the fact that she was she she had good relationships with the first three of the season. I don't know how Jonathan's feeling towards right now. It's very much in the air at depends on who. She's sitting next to if she's sitting next to Ricky are they going to say Ricky didn't even do anything in the game. So let's reward taymor. Because at least she did something. Or are. They gonna say well, Ricky wasn't awful and taymor was awful. So let's give it to Ricky. I really don't know. I do think our best chance. Is up against low. She had hope that that the Lolo the the people that are anti Lolo are willing to not look pastor lo-lose past few days of coming around and trying to be a better person. But it's a really tough call between between these final three. If if it ends up not including DNA in who sits in the final two. Yes. And I will say, you know, I am I told people awhile ago, I I've given up on strategy candy was maybe my one hope in terms of you know, I I started to root for her regardless strategy, then she started to get strategic. But it's looking like she might leave. If candy does leave. I think I am hoping for a tame our win because. Nobody else deserves it strategically and tamer would be the most exciting. So oh, Tim. Tim started to maybe come around on accepting that Ricky would be a acceptable winner. I feel like. Okay. But the the thing about Ricky like, I obviously Ricky I like I said, I think he's played the best conventional game of big, brother. So if I was still like if I cared about the strategy of the season, then I would say like give it to Ricky. He probably deserves it the most. But Ricky still doesn't even crack a five like a six for me. Like, he doesn't go above a five in terms of like he's like replacement level. And that is the best that the season had to offer. And so it's like, I don't I don't I just don't care enough. Like, okay, Ricky was the best strategically and he was like twelve on big brother twenty. So it's like, you know. I don't care that much. And so that's why I was rooting for candy and candy's gone, then then give it to tame. Because like if we're if we're if we're looking back at the results of this season and Ricky was the winner like shore, he played the best. But it just makes it doesn't hold on look like a fart. Whereas whereas if team are wins the season, I do think it represents what this season was. And and I think that it was a little bit more like. Remember that season taymor one? Right. I mean, the same will kind of be said if Lolo ends up pulling out the win. It's it'll definitely represent the. A different way. I think we've flow wins. It's kind of like remember that's using low little one. Yeah. But that's just me. Maybe we'll. There are some Lolo fans out there, and they will be very happy for the low low win. And and I respect the Lolo fans because they they have a lot to contend with somebody who has been still kind of on Lolo side the entire season because I came in rooting for her as a challenge alumni. I'm just excited that the season is over because I feel like she needs to get back to normal life in a way from this house from these cameras, I feel like she really needs to not do more reality television. And that's what I will be rooting for her. Yeah. Stay stay away from the games. Well, let's also just briefly go over candies game because there's a small chance that you know, the feeds are going to be cut from this point on. There's still a good what eight hours until the live eviction happens and taymor seems like she's pushing pretty hard. There's a chance things change eight hours is a long time. If if if taymor is determined, so let's them you and I were on a recap. And we said something wasn't possible. Ricky was taken off the block. So I really very unlikely as what I said, right? And so yeah, I mean as much as I want to say, I really don't think there's a chance I shouldn't say that. What's happening right now is that I'm going to say, hey, for all we know tame mar could could succeed, and they could've DNA tonight, very unlikely. But should be pointed out. All right. We're in clip that when a make we're gonna put the lucky juice on it. It's gonna be great don't think I was making such. Disgusted face that time. I know you messed it up. If candy gets victims. It's all your fault. Matt you need you need the face. All right. So let's talk about candy's game and really genuinely there's not much to it until week four week three. So. I like I like how proud she is talking to Lolo yesterday or just in general like I've been on the block so much. I'm gonna make big brother history. They're going to have to talk about me candy about who was on the block the most times like every season and big brother celebrity big brother regular, whoever gets on the block like multiple times. They're like I'm going to be in the record book. So this I'm always on the block, even Jonathan those on the blocks return days, I'm going to be remembered. Yeah, I'll get you a little metal after the game. You can hang it is it is. I mean, it's par for the course, remember, Shannon. Elizabeth is the best big brother player of all time. All right so week. One candy comes into the game. She a pre existing relationship with tame taymor. She gets pulled into the Jonathan alliance. But she tells Jonathan straight up that she plans on voting him out, which put Lancer on the block when the mooch twist happens candy, not a whole lot of knowledge of the game very much the opposite of taymor in a lot of ways where she is very good socially. She's very calm. She's very rational. But she has no knowledge of the game almost an knowledge of the game. And so she makes a lot of rookie mistakes especially early on. And this is one of the biggest ones here puts her on the block. Of course, she was never in any real danger. But you never know with how things shake out on the big brother in the big brother game. So she is going to bond with Ricky and Dina those are two people that she bonds with in the first week, and she's going to get into this fight with taymor, which she does not handle very well either. She also is going to learn how to handle tame are properly as the season continue. On. So a lot of mistakes here in the early game. For candy. They do make up a little bit before the end of the week, and Jonathan is going to be a victim. But but not the best start here. For candy either candies beginning the beginning of candies. Game was just she didn't really know what the game was. She kind of you know, she was obviously this last minute replacement is what we will be heard before the season. And it felt like she wasn't exactly interested in playing. It felt like she was just kind of like all right? We'll I'm here. I said this, you know, a couple morning updates. Go about how you know. She's she's really smart. She's coming here. She's not any interest in quitting. But she is just collecting her paycheck that she's gonna get for being there. And that's it. Obviously, it got way more exciting along the way when she decided that she knew what the game was about. And hey, why don't I just play this a little bit? And see if I can go far maybe end up winning. So that was obviously a lot more fun. But the beginning of the game. I just felt like she was just she ended up on the block so often. Nobody really was. Trying to bring her in close. It was just like this is just another person that's in the house, and you know, it's very easy to put around the block. So yes, so Jonathan is a victory we head into week two Kato is going to win. The wage candy is mad at Dina. She had bonded with her. And she feels betrayed by DNA because DNA voted her out in that week. So she's not particularly happy there. But she is pretty safe this week as DNA entame are nominated with Ryan as the back door plan. She does get some information out of Kato in regards to who he's working with and what's happening in the house. So she gets a good read of what's going on in in this week to she is still not doing much else though, I genuinely like going through the notes I had cheat doesn't she is talked about she does not appear in almost any of the conversations this week. She just is not really doing much strategy talk at all. So Ryan is going to be. Victims and we're going to head into week three. When Tom wins, the H, and she's going to be a little more active this week. Yes. I think she she. I don't know exactly when she she woke up into sided she wants to play the game. But she's really just kind of hanging around with Ricky playing chess all day. And that's the most that we've ever would have talked about back in the early weeks. Yes. So as taught with Thomas, the candy, I think be. The names get mixed up. Rapid? We're having such a hard. Kato is going to think that candy has the power which lands her on the block this week. But they recognize that she does not have the power. And so she isn't a little bit of danger as Joey seems to be doing a good job of keeping yourself safe. He campaigns to the women he campaigns to the men they both want the both groups want to keep him. However after all the blowups the men realize that Joey is not on their side. So they decide to approach candy who gives them exactly what they need to hear. She says, oh, yes, I'm on board. One hundred percent. Keep me safe. They say in order to keep you safe. You need Mars vote. She goes to tame our and she says, hey, tame are, you know, we're friends I need you to vote to keep me, Tom. We'll break time my favor, I need this from you Tamara says, okay? And that's it. She does manage to save herself here in in this regard, at least. And and so she is going to be kept safe. Joey is going to be a victim. And she she she also is going. To tell him are that she thinks Lola when Natalie or hypocritical after all these fights. And this is I think when people really started to see her as like, wow, the only sane voice in this house. And she also tells tame, hey, I did not make a deal with the guys. I this is just all about us right now. So she starts to play the game a little bit here. She starting to understand what she needs to do. She learned she she even told Tom this later in the game that she learned her lesson from week one where she was brutally honest with Jonathan. And she now knows that she needs to massage the truth a little bit more. So Joey is going to be victims. And then tame Maher is going to win the next h which obviously means that candy is going to be safe. Yeah. I think it's probably around now where you know. Candy is such a successful business woman. She's she's done. So well in her life in her career and seeing like the fact that the game is being played around. Her people are playing so hard, especially like, the Natalie and Lolo contingent. She's like, wait a second. Like, I'm not about to be like outplayed by these people who are what they're trying to pull off here. But hold on a second. Maybe maybe we need to make this make this not happen. So this is you know, when things start to get good for guests with K mart as h h candy and Tom conspire a little bit. They want to target. No Liqi candy tries to pitch to tame our that she needs to target Natalie multiple times throughout the week. She really tries to push hard for taymor to turn on that block of three. She says look if we don't turn on them. Now, they're going to win this game. Unless somebody like Tom wins, the h she's very correct here. Ultimately, I do believe tomorrow was locked into this bad position in the first place as we talked about in tame Mars game. And she didn't really have much of a choice. Choice but to go after Kato in this spot. However, candy does try to shake her out of it refuses? And she is again going to get mad at candy for talking to Tom and candies. It's like whatever on Kato is going to be a victim this week and we head into week five. We're Tomlin's the H, and this was huge both for taymor and for candy as a candy is going to work on Tom and try to get him to put Natalie on the block Natalie is targeting candy at this point. So it is vital for her to make sure that Natalie leaves she is going to. She's going to taymor. It's going to get mad at her again for talking to Tom and she's going to go to DNA about it. And she is eventually candy going to convince Tom that he does need to get Natalie on the block, even though Tom still wants to go after Ricky, I she is going to then after Tom wins the veto put up some resistance and say, hey, you shouldn't use the veto. We should take Natalie out. And then she's going to run to tame our who blows up on Tom, and then Tom is not gonna trust candy anymore, but then Dina's going to reunite them. And Tom is going to use the veto on Ricky and Natalie is going to be evicted in large part due to candy's work here. She does make a big error going to candy era going to tame our and telling her what Tom told her, but it kind of ends up working out in a very strange way. I can't credit candy for this. But I can't credit candy for getting Natalie on the block in the first place. I think this was a pretty good week overall. Despite the mistake there, and it does end with the. Positive result for candy of getting Natalie out of the game. Yeah. You know, when people like go over to Wikipedia, and they just change any information that they want to because it's funny. If anybody wanted to go in there and change this the candies h week instead of having it say that it was Tom's. I would be all for that. I feel like that's totally fair at this point everything that happened in this week was Tom turning the key in the box. But candy was behind the nominations. And then ultimately in terms of who went home. It was very very close to being Ricky, which is what Tom initially wanted. But after candy pushed, and and it was obviously, a misstep in terms of her telling TAY mar-, you know, all of this stuff or whatever. But it also did kind of click I guess in Tom's drain that are this is like the one person that I had on my side. And now, she's probably not on my side. I must have done something wrong need to get her back on my side. And he goes through with the plan that is obviously going to make her happiest so really really strong stuff for candidate. Besides everybody's had hiccups along the way, but I think the best I could have asked for from her. Yes. I will say I think that I think that Tom did it more or less soda, please, candy and more. So because he thought that he probably couldn't get Ricky out. Anyway, at least based on what he said. But, but it's still I agree with the sentiment here. I think that we can credit candy for if not for candy, Natalie definitely would not have been a victim here. And she definitely deserves a lot of credit for this week. And this is really when she starts to step up her game. And we head into the following week where Tom is going to be acted in the double of addiction. This is not great for candy. But things are still looking up because she has a lot of outs here. All she needs to do is to not have Ricky win, the H O H. That's the only thing she needs to not have happened. But Ricky does win the H h and ball what what a blow for candy. Despite this as we have been talking about she has a decent job of potentially trying to keep yourself safe. She has tame are working on them her work with taymor is probably her best move across the entire season taymor who is now in a position to really help her or potentially really help her. This is huge taymor tag to the final would be huge. Because I do think that she beats tame mar a fairly handily. And so ultimately it does look like candy. We'll be leaving tonight that her and tame our we'll have failed to keep DNA to keep her over Dina. However when we look at candies game as a whole if she loses here or if she goes on to win the game. I think that it's really a tale of she came into the game. She knew nothing, but she had a lot of innate abilities that made her good at the game. She made some big mistakes early on. She was not part of the game early on. But she sat she watched. She learned and as we got toward the end of the game. She really stepped it up. It was just a little bit too late in a little bit too little, and she was not able to get all the way there. So that's really I think the story of candy in this game. Yeah. Yeah. I I totally lost thought that I was just about to say but candies played. Well, I think that okay. What is going to say her biggest the biggest thing that confused me about candy's game? The thing that I don't understand. Why the pieces never connected. I don't understand how she never got in to some kind of something with Ricky. They spent so much time together all season long. They played chess together almost every single day. Maybe sometimes twice a day. And they were so close just they weren't closed. They played together. They had so many opportunities to come together. But every chance said there was for Ricky to talk about. Yeah. Candies a threat, she she should go. Like he never seemed any kind of invested in keeping her in the game. He always acknowledged that. She was somebody. They would have to take care of eventually. I don't understand what the disconnect was there. I don't understand why neither of them ever made a push to make something happen between the two of them with all the time. They spend together and nobody's even ever. Expected that the well, no that's not you're actually because Lolo has mentioned a couple of times. Like, I know that, you know, Ricky, I know you're not close with candy, even though you guys play chess all the time. So there's been suspicion about it. But it's never been like a thing. Like, you guys are together. But but they should have been right. Like that is something I neglected to mention in sort of trying to gloss over candies game a little more is that her relationship with Ricky. She did bond with him early on. However because she was not really playing the game for so long. The kind of just went away that Ricky wanted to keep candy initially in that third week when she was on the block next to Joey, however, when Joey pitched to the women and Ricky that he should stay Ricky made the decision to drop candy. He was like, you know, I have candy. But Ricky seems Joey seems like he'll be a better ally. To me he's playing the game. Harder. Candy just isn't doing anything yet. And so he decided in that moment that he was going to go with Joe. Joey over candy. That's going to end up being a mistake. Not one that's going to end up costing him anything because it never ends up making a difference. But a mistake nonetheless because Joey is going to end up leaving there anyway and candy is going to feel betrayed by Ricky moving forward from this point. So that's when their relationship dissolved, and and turned into nothing, and it never really rekindled because there was never a really a reason for it to they were still protecting each other. Because they were it was not in either of their best interest to see each other go home at any point until until now. So if candy had been able to rekindle that relationship with Ricky, maybe she'd be in a better spot to survive right now. So I probably call it. More candies mistake, then Ricky's because she did feel so personally offended by what Ricky decided to do going against her that she that she decided not to rekindle that relationship. So that is I think another good point to bring up in terms of the downfall of candy story. It Ricky kind of strikes nerve where he he talks to her about. You're not playing the game. Like, I don't. I don't even know what you're doing here. You're really just not playing and that kind of comes back to bite him in the bud because then at a little bit after that is when candy really does start play the game. And I think even like Natalie and lower going to say to him like why did you even tell her to play the game? Because now, we're regretting it. Because now she's playing the game, and it's kind of annoying. So, you know, while while their relationship never really worked out for the two of them. I mean, Ricky did kinda give her a kick in the pants to to motivate her a little bit and say, all right? Well, I'll show you how show you play in the game. If if that's what you want me to do here. Yes. And another thing that should be pointed out again, it doesn't doesn't really fit into a recap, but candies jury management was excellent along the way, she was very respectful toward everyone's you never really got into any big fights with anyone. And as she always treated people with respect, and kindness and said good things about people when they are evicted. So just really I shouldn't even have to say, it's good jury management. It's like baseline juryman treat people with respect be kind say nice things. Everybody should be doing this. But she is one of the few people that's doing and and that really makes a huge difference. And she is just just so like regal and respectable that I think that really adds to it. And I do think that she would have good jury management in any season. But but just like the Bara so low here, it's ridiculous. That's I would definitely love to see in a couple of years. If we have a celebrity big brother all stars. I feel like can't do it would be a top contender to go all the way. Yes. All right. So there you have it three games recapped. Plus what happened on the feeds yesterday? I apologize for the length of this update. It's quite one here. I don't wanna hear any length complaints for. There's no feeds today. We got nothing else to keep an eye on a lot of hours that that's that's the motto in life. No, man. We got a couple a couple of our it's not even the finale not even on till nine o'clock tonight. It's not even clocks. Yeah. It's it's a national holiday. It's it's finale of big brother day, it's all about a year taking work off, everyone prepared. I saw people were saying they were taking work off for the Super Bowl or like the day after the Super Bowl. And I was like that would be like if I was still working I decided to take the day off after the finale of big, brother. Seems reasonable enough to me. I don't know. We'll probably do some kind of, you know, finale special twitch stream today to talk some more. If you guys are interested so today, unless big brother until tomorrow, all about big brother until the finale where recei what happens we'll have some fun. I hope you guys enjoyed this. I hope you enjoyed going over everyone's game. And I hope that we can all be kind to each other and the houseguests once the season is over there's no need for any personal attacks or angry debates about things that don't involve the game. It's just a game. Let's be nice to people and check out the Taryn show episode. I did with Matt if you are interested in hearing me preach on about that even more and probably annoyingly so breathe in breathe out. We'll all be okay. They'll all be. Okay. And once once they're gone, we can just follow them on social media. If we want to and move on. Yes. 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Cora, You Can't Say That...

Woman Evolve with Sarah Jakes Roberts

1:23:02 hr | 1 year ago

Cora, You Can't Say That...

"God bless you. Pretend to be or who you compare yourself to. He can only bless us and the lane that was created for you Bill for somebody. You don't need to. You need boundaries. Thank god. So. Yes, we sound really good think so. We should be thinking grew, maybe not. Why would you kill my dreams like that? Will you know you should do what you're good at child? It is that time of the week. Yes, it is time for the woman evolved podcasts and let me tell you something today is a little bit special because I am not being joined all by my lonesome IM here with the number one g the very first member of the woman evolve delegation. Listen, Korge, eggs, Coleman, ladies and gentlemen, high all just in case you haven't heard it's the woman that are loose takeover us, yes, woman loosen woman evolve are merging this week, not sure if you're aware of that. No, that's gonna be epic. I worship team is singing Friday night at the show. Guess that's my day Fridays, Monday, you make sure you speak into the microphone because although I am being joined with our Facebook live co host audience. This podcast will actually be uploaded a little later on where the rest of the delegation will catch up with all of the tea that we plan on spilling on this here. How have you been doing? I've been grid in your so have even drinking your water. This other things to talk about. Have you been moisturizing your edges now? Yes, yes, Castro. I heard it's powerful. Yes, it is. Usually, I actually been working out, but you know, I, I know that's not your mail up and down the stairs. Is that working out? I think. So, you knows not. I think it's a good start. It is a good start. What is the next level after this? You know, I haven't gotten there yet. Let's work on it. I will discuss. I wanted to bring you to orange theory with me as probably not going to happen, but I support us. You know, you are skinny sister course. This will core gonna stop with that for please don't think we calling it's a good. Can you be different during the pocket Inc. you should hold up to the world for an hour and a half we're going to exit should be different. I'm gonna bring the computer. A, we can read your comments. Someone doesn't have greater will because I have to scroll to see them. Okay. So core, would you consider come to orange theory with me? Know what would it take. There's not. I can't think of anything. What will you do with me on a workout level. I will be with you. We did that you is it. You'll box with birth. I find box in class between now instead of day, will you botch with me in cannot invite woman evolve TV to be a part of it. I will watch with you and yes, woman involved TV. Will you still be saved when we're finished? Boxing, we will see. Okay. What about you? Facebook live audience co host. Have you all been drinking your water? Moisturizing your edges and minding your business? Most of all, that's what we want to not been doing really good at that. You didn't ask me that. Have you been my. Been doing great minding your business of blessed thing. People underestimate the power, minding your business. I was thinking the other day because I was outside of the store, and I saw someone who had gotten very emotional and. People were like looking and I didn't. You manage abyss. I did this and you got to, it's not. Your problem. Doesn't have to be my problem everyday. And what I do is I mind my business because I want my business minded, I was somewhere out of control emotionally in public. I wouldn't want anyone to check on tank that part. You know what I'm saying? I like my business minded the time. They're just being nosy. They don't really care because if I tell you what's really happy struggling, so I don't know. I try to mind my business like a fulltime job. What's going on here? Ruth analysis booking, boxing is great exercise that we've done it before her box on many occasions years ago years Latrell says, don't do it core. She's probably talking about orange theory. Do you want to know what to do? Do you want to know what on theory is before you really don't care. That's the part of me minding my business. You don't care, don't care. I just know that you burn a lot of calories. Yes, and you have a good time doing it every day? Well, I don't know about a good time, but it is active. Here's the thing like I don't necessarily enjoy working out. It's not that I like it. I just feel like it is a necessary evil in my life. I do not like working out and I don't want to. But what if you have to, but I don't, you know, my son is fifty pounds and picking him up every day is, but if you picked him up, did squash with him. Oh, wow. You're asking, what did that be something you're asking a lot right now? Yes, this we're going on early. Not doing Kito. You can miss me on Kito you know why they think we're on and I am on a little early steps. Yes, I am in Dallas for women our lives. I'm sorry, delegation. I. I'm in Dallas for women that were loose, and now I am on the podcast a little early because when I usually get on is about four o'clock central standard time. However, they had me doing things today, so I am unable to get on that my usual time. Okay. Sorry about that. And it's Kelly says she's minding her business, but she's also eating cake, which I can't imagine a better way to my business. Kind friends, powerful Brennan. Cole says I've been sipping my tea and minding my business because it's a powerful ministry. Yes, it is Monica. She's trying to stop eating late at night. She needs prayer. This neck struggle is real. I cannot help you with that. I don't eat. I don't really. It's not when I eat. It's what I eat. That is the problem. Okay. Okay. Yes, it is winning. What when and was. You do want to talk about bed or no? No, it's when I eat all the time and what I eat everything or what is wrong with you as just my? No, I don't. But like, why would you say that? 'cause that's true. But you know live though, I want you to lie as hard. It's hard. Do. Oh, hey, okay. So I like had salad for lunch. Will you don't have to say that you had a salad, but I'm just wondering, do you? Okay. Do you want to work out like if I came up with something and I was like court. Okay, I drink a shake in the morning. We're gonna have a salad from lunch. Okay. Have you know what I have been doing with? Tell me I've been getting smoothies from smoothie, kink. With what? That's it. The little for breakfast? Yes. On lunch. Okay. To good to karate. Okay. 'cause it's just about calorie intake? Yes. Why a lot of calories. Brian goes to orange theory, and she says, she dies a little every time. Can I tell you all about orange thirty hour up this morning ready to go to orange theory here in Dallas? Because when you have a membership, you can go to any orange theory and country inconvenient? Yes, it is. And so I got up to go to the one in Arlington today in when I got up, I'm here with family. My daughter comes with, my daughter ran is in orange through rebellion, but we're praying for her and any and our friend law. And so we got, we drove to orange theory and Loris it goes, she doesn't wanna go anymore. We're sitting in the parking lot at onto the and I was like, all right, Tae Taylor. We're going to go right and tell you about all. Don't ask me. I don't think I can handle it. And do you know that. We pulled into the parking lot of orange theory and then turned around and didn't go and did not go to be a leader cyst you. You should have dragged adult in there. Well, I should have core, but I couldn't will. It's raining in. It's cold in that is an excuse enough to say, Potter's prices. Kito died is good. Have you heard of Kito. I have heard of Kito, but I like to eat cheese toes. On Akito diet, but bless you. God bless you and your Kito diet. So there we have it in core meets Shamir just had a Donut. I did too. I'm looking at my Donut. I haven't had it yet. So there's that. Yeah, I think eating in moderation like sometimes you just want to case of it and after you have, are you sleep. Kinda try to stay woke. Okay. All right. Well, that's all right. Okay, so we'll leave the workout thing. Are you ready to rescue some people? We can try to rescue some people. I'm not sure everybody is rescue -able. Okay, so here's the thing on the woman evolve podcast. We get together and we talk about things that have been happening in the news and when things are happening in the news that culture or society doesn't agree with, we bring them over here to the woman evolve podcast, and we do that because we feel like culture can be a little unfair. And we have decided that part of our role as the woman evolve delegation is to show empathy in grace towards people who are being dragged in the culture gash course, sometimes it's a stretch Anderson last week. They wanted me to rescue Christopher Columbus. No, in that is what the delegation say. It's just not possible core. I have a question for you before we get star. Rated. And this question for the last two episodes going on three now because I'm about to ask it has been tearing up the woman evolved delegation, and I told them last week that we were going to agree to disagree, but I have decided to bring bring it up again. Okay. Who are there? There's an overwhelming amount of people who put lorries in their scrambled eggs that is gross core is absolutely nonsense court. It's nonsense court absolute nonsense. Where does lawyers go in chicken? Yes, read, yes, stay. Okay. I've never eggs and then we'll say vegetables as well. And he'll breeze. Okay. Yes. But then let me tell you what they tried to in core. Someone tried to tell me that Laura's was canceled all together, like like own. Yes. Aw, the workers of iniquity in our in the delegation. Yes. And so it has been tearing up, but that's all right. Not unless you want your exit taste like chicken. Used today. The guy who's mama made exit Tayside chicken. I don't know if it was Laurie so much that she could him in chicken grease. Well, mom does that sometime she takes a table to bone chicken grease was she took more than a table. They her ex taste by tainted like fried chicken, you know, at the gag is extra chicken while I may not get it. But you know, there's, there's a line that you don't cross. Okay, Benjamin tearing out the delegation, but we decided to leave it alone so I'm not going to get into it. Dulip does bring up an interesting point. She says, lorries on eggs is ratchet and wrong. It is, and you have to pick which one you going be. They no problem. You gonna be ratchet, that's fine, but you don't wanna be wretched and wrong. I think glories in a wasn't accident. No corporate will do with it was an accident, like the lorries bottle fell over in non had to make the ending. Some of the things said a slap, your mama in eggs and state. Put once. Why Lou cheese. On you gotta be. I wanna be extra. Thanks extent is extra in. There's no doubt about it. Okay. But that's all right. That's okay. We're gonna move on past that. They revoked black cars over lorries in. Okay. Just so you know, listen for my seek not everyone has a black card, so I just want my listeners to know that when I did a poll on Instagram, it wasn't just black people putting lorries in as 'cause I can see who voted what, and I'm telling you worldwide. There are people putting lorries in as, but that's all right. We're going to leave the loan because literally we get split right down the middle every time. Okay. So core, we're going to start with our rescues for this week. Okay. My berry I rescue for this week is a is actually of yours. And last week the delegation wanted me to rescue her, but I was unfamiliar with what was happening. So I had a chance to catch up on the Braxton family out. And they want me to rescue team. And I wanna know, can we rescue her in? Do we need floaters or a private jet in order to do it? Well, she does not like small planes. If you go to rescue a may wanna go with fluffy for those of you who missed it as the Braxton family values highlighted in intervention that took place using a Jahn live and sand. Yes, and they used a yawn lift for this. The show the show not to be confused with fix my life. That Britt entities. Right. Okay. What's okay? So the Braxton family values had a Jawa on not to fix their life, not for the fix my life show. Okay. What? Why are you clarifying that? Well, there is a legal thing happening there because. Tame mar kinda bashed her little bit publicly and they're trying to make sure that the two shows were not intertwined. So big smile. Life was not the production. It was. We TV that brought in a Yama to help the rules. Oh, okay. Well, during this helping session, I think able a lot of people felt like taymor was picked on she was and that we needed to rescue her after like she was absolutely picked on. But the other thing is she is the baby. And so from an emotional standpoint, she carries the emotions, so so heavy and much heavier than any of the other girls. Because the mom and dad, Evelyn and Mr. Braxton said they put them in the middle of their divorce. And so when you're a baby in the family, she got beat up the most about their divorce. And so she took it more emotional, been any of the ever growth than I think that cheese having trouble with being able to stabilize the trauma of their divorce in her life. I think that there was a point though during the show where it appeared that are really saw herself differently. Did did you realize 'cause it seemed like a suddenly, if you will like in that second part of the episode, all of. Said, and she seemed to fully like understand how she could have possibly been perceived as selfish or self centered at minimum when it comes to family while. Yeah, during that particular time, I was in deep conversations with Timour. I can't really say that that was a yawn LA. I, I would love to low court, fix my life for. Smart. Quin woman, family values, core. So Yang out who's feeling young credits. Oh, we need to rent John. A yawn Lanese to be rescued. But no, I communicated with her and helped her a lot more than a young lady. And I think that there's something to be said about someone who feels like they can fix a lifelong issue in two days, the Braxton's have been going through a lot of pain and sorrow for several years in badge tried to help them. Another doctor came in and tried to help them. And now Jawa has tried to help them when I think the reality is any Jesus. Jeez, let me tell you something about getting a little Jesus, and I only that she's just robs you of your desire to be right, and instead allows you to come to experiences in situations with the willingness of being wrong humbling yourself and at least hearing another person's perspective. So it honestly, it appeared that debts, what happened today? Mar, I don't necessarily know that she was picked on because I feel like her reactions to things create attention in that singles you out, and then you end up being the person who is singled out, but because we'll if you watch the show first things. First Tony says, I wish that taymor wasn't so emotional injure Matic when she's communicating. So she kinda pinned every. Thing on tomorrow's gonna be emotional, injure, Matic. And when you're doing a show for ratings, you're gonna pull it. The one who is the most emotional injure MAC, because she's got the biggest story. She's got the most dramatic expressions. She got pinned. So we can rescue mar. I think we can rescue her. She needs to be rescued. She's going through a divorce right now. Tiffany's got says, I think she has a great heart but lacks a lot of accountability. Don't we all. We don't on well apart an only down all well, like you said, getting a little Jesus helps you to take responsibility. We accountability though, like who can tell you that the Yama did say that she said, who can tell you you're wrong, who can say something to you at challenge? My kids with that sometimes because they get frustrated when we say something and I'm just like, okay, well, how can you receive it in a way that we can steal disagree about what has taken place by because you have to have some level of accountability. And like in for honest, nobody enjoys accountability. Nobody enjoys feeling like I made the wrong choice or I could have done things differently, but it is a legit reality that it happens and is necessary, and they're all forty plus to keep on with this mommy and daddy got a divorce and I'm still hurting broken is a little ridiculous yet because at a certain point you have to decide how much you're going to allow your history to fix your. Shoe like, and we've all had everyone is carrying their own wound. Everyone has some type of bleeding that they are experiencing. But Ed, a certain point we have to decide, I'm not gonna let what hurt me defined me for the rest of my life. Absolutely. And I think that if anything, a lot of the girls came to that conclusion, yeah, is to not let this continue to to go on, but I think that she does need accountability. I think she's hurting. I don't think she's the only sister that is hurting in in. There's a lot of division is just a spirit of division in the whole family. Everybody's gotten divorced. There's there's no unity. There's no won miss. And whenever you put division in a family, it's it's gonna recap in starts from the head down, you know, I think that sometimes it's difficult to carry out your life with people watch. Shing. And I think that have a sabbatical from from reality vessel word for somebody though you're going through transition, you're going through a transformation in your life and you're trying to do it and maintain a certain appearance with everyone in every now and then you just need that can't go to lunch. I can't do this. I can't do that because you need to have an incubator for what God is trying to do in your life. And I think if they really want deliverance, they have to create an environment that is conducive to deliver. And if you put a name on your family, expect that it's going to be tested, do you really have the family values that you know? But as a young, I think sometimes Janas delivery is what keeps people from fully agreeing with what she says for sure. Okay. So Alexis king says, we can rescue her. She's not too far gone. We're going to send her pool noodle, Agri Olivia, rescue taymor with the floaty though in have Jesus awaiting on the main line. Okay. We're gonna get you. On the boat, but you need to meet a man named Jesus. Yes, April says, we know this, your girl core Tamera his openly expressed her love for you and you guys family? Yes. So I think that we're going to be able to rescue more, and I think that's good because the rest of the people, I don't think that you guys are going to rescue. But I, I just want to encourage you all before we move onto the next rescue to not forget that we don't have to guess at the private jet. This sometimes a rescue can be a pool floaty sometimes arrest you can be a life jacket. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. It doesn't have to be the helicopter. And so when I say the name Kardashian and as whether or not you want to rescue them, I want everyone to come into it with an open heart and open mind. Okay, you already know the delegation don't be here for this all the time. Okay. So. Kanye west is in the news and we're gonna see about that later, but his wife came in her sister's courting khloe our training for being too black, Kim tweeted, an animated Jif or gift. Whatever the Lord would have you pronounce it as of herself and her sisters to promote their keeping up with the Kardashians episode of the girls. In in Japan, the animation is of the three of them sitting at a table drinking in toasting with some t the animation she tweeted has now received a lot of backlash from people who think the cartoon is too dark. If you all have not seen this, I want to encourage you to go on the most reliable news source. There is the shade room. The most reliable most reliable. Never seen a lie on the. I've seen shade they, but can we have a word that shade in truth can often be some. Sometimes your troop can be shady and you need to sail entered immediate, take chat on media takeout do while I won't say nothing. I'm just thinking some alleged every time. Allegedly. I had to stop going on media takeout because what is okay, but can we rescue the Kardashians people are upset that they're too dark inappropriate in the culture, but in their defense, they literally are this color now, whether they're naturally this color or not can be up for debate, but I don't think they lying was see this thing. Are we rescuing them because this animate or are we risking them in life? Because I feel like the Kardashians just need to be rescued in general for. Life to main, you know, like just Cam is just out here showing booth. He undoing insecure about her behind. I just I'm trying to figure out why we got to see your behind every week one the other day. She posts a picture with her booty out saying be should remember to watch the Kardashians. What does your booty out have to do with us watching the car nations' you got three children girl this. What are you doing man? Do you think this is a real question? Do you think if you had Kim's body that she'll booty would be out all the time now not publicly. Rabidly have prime it. Oh, my going to beach. Yeah, but I'm not going to be neither. Does you are married woman? Yeah, and mother, it you too old. To be doing this. I know this how you started Joe career. That's not how you have to continue it. Yes, she has achieved a level as booty. I mean, I guess he wants to though, well, congress says that her body is at as in art. I just don't understand why we have to be subject to seeing her naked behind every week. Okay. Okay. Do here's a redeeming quality that I can appreciate about the Kardashians that I really feel like they are a family? Oh, yeah, for sure. They stick together. Lied on. You don't see them bad mouth in each of lying off for real for real. Yeah. Where the whole family be like divided instead of shoot. They still let Caitlin Caitlin be families jn. Is still family. Now, here's the question. Do you celebrate mother's day or Father's Day? No. All right. Okay. Guys, I'll be on my own out here guys about Bruce. We're talking about the guard as you. Okay, let's shawl is really echoing my sentiments which is Cora. Please stop. I can't imagine a better comet for this podcast. Gora please stop and yes, kimberlin loves core, which is amazing. Amerson no rescue on today with a whole. I should've not added even realize the correlation in the rescues because I was going to try and rescue the Kardashians from people saying that they dark when actually the car bashing is hardly live. They life without his drag them now, yes, they'd be naked and all of that stuff I agree. But when they just being themselves that get dragged to, and I thought that we could, you got equal drag for all of them. Also the dragon when later being themselves or whether they showing behind. Okay, so rescue or no, I going to go with, no, because I don't believe that if you rescued them, they would appreciate. I think they will. I think Utah Ma need to meet Jesus. I have. I have a, I have a set the captives free out core Apellate minding is powerful. NBA on your boat. They shown his take because you got the whole Braxton family values on yours. Well course bone Chad course a boat. She stranded away a right. No, listen, I think that I think I think you could rescue the crashing. I rescue the, I have faith in mind, knowing team, I have faith in it. Where's your faith come on for Rochas phase? I mean, I think you could you could. I'm just saying I invite who was willing to be rescued. Couldn't be rescued depart. Yeah, I don't think they willing. Yeah, I think anyone willington be rescue rescue, so, okay, let's he would Facebook live. Audience is name is Bruce on horrib- salute hord core. You saying poor, you can't do that. What he call you. Or. Corey core. You can't do that core. You can't do that. You can't do that true core. You can't name is not Bruce dull, or you can't do that because if you have to meet people where they are, you can't meet them where you want in meet him worries at. Arm core, honestly, truly not lying. You can't do that will then he will be able to be on my boat because I don't call them Bruce. That's what your mama named you. That's on your person. That's what you anatomy deal says. Bruton core, you don't know what people are not on serve. Don't want this on the podcast. Can someone please edit this out? Okay. Can we someone say something please? Okay. Musashi says that we can only rescue khloe and kindle. Can we do that? Yeah, we can rest. K Jones loves that court is real ebony says that core is an equal opportunity Drager. So all right there. Okay. Isn't like I'm on my own ticker Seir. You're on your own on this one. Okay. So you're noisy. Okay. Jelena's don't drain your anointing. I think I can do it. I think I can. I think that if everyone is ready, then I'm going to be ready. Can you get off your phone at work? Can you get off your phone at worst? I'm looking at internal worry. You know what I'm trying to do what and trying to show you bitty. Oh, oh, okay. Go and do that. All right. All right. Okay. So Libya's gas at the private jet, but only you can drive there will we ain't going no wear. Okay. So I guess we're not going to rescue them. The. The core is on her face. She's trying to share the video on Facebook for those of you listening on the podcast, and she has her volume up on her phone, and I just want you to know I'm a professional. She is usually a record in my closet today. I'm actually in a studio environment which is my brother's room, and I just want to say that core is not being a professor. I'm trying to share your video Julie. You bring up an interesting point. Can we Rescue Corps because. Is Anita rescue used to first times. Okay, so all right. So it seems like I'm the only one rescue in the Kardashian, but I just want you all to know that I'm going to do it. You know, I think I have the power they want to be rescued want to. They might. They might. I think that it's a cry for help. I think it's a cross helping. I think that I had the oil I do. I do child, you spread it all around them. Then I do core and then will post it on their Instagram. That's the other thing. I think that I will help anyone who asked me of help, but I don't want to help you just for the sake of you having an episode on television that wanna really smart. All your nineteen show beyond keeping up with the card had, oh, for sure. Cannot someone wanted to rescue me because I was on the shade room of video that posted, and they told me that the comments in the shade room weren't not. All of them were very nice. Although my husband was in there responding to people, and this is what I want to now today. Yeah, but this is what I want to know when things like that happen when y'all see your girl on the shade room or anywhere else where there may be a large platform of people who may agree or disagree with what I'm saying. I don't go in the comments because I can't handle the comments. And so I said out of the comments and I want you all if you love me to not bring me the comments if y'all wanna be in the comments on y'all, but don't tag me in what people say and don't let me say, let don't let me know that they're saying anything negative about me because listen, I'm a person. I'm a whole person, and your girl is sensitive and I just don't wanna be my feelings over something. Some stranger stay at on the internet about me when I was authentically stretching myself and living my best life or do you deal with it? I don't care about people. Pastor court chicks Komen ladies and gentlemen. I really don't. I think that you should live your life that way as well. Because if you spend your life caring about what people are going to say, you are going to have a miserable life. It's going to be so miserable. And that's how I live my life. I live my life tonight care when anybody says about me. I used to care, but now I don't. Okay. So I care. 'cause I mean, no, you do. Because you know what it is for me speaking is like vulnerable because it's not like something that I'm comfortable doing. So I am like vulnerable when I'm speaking. I think that's part of the reason why affective, because I'm literally like just out here, praying that got will meet me. And so when you open up your vulnerability and see this is a word, this is a word. Okay. When you know that you were being vulnerable, you have to protect your own or ability from people who don't understand what it costs you to be who you are. So part of me, protecting my vulnerability is not going into the comments and things because you open yourself up to anything when you're going through transformation, like maybe their family members, maybe they're old friends. Maybe it's your social media platform. You cannot just put your vulnerability out there and then look and see whether or not people approved of it or not. I'm not. I wasn't doing it for validation. I wasn't doing it doing it to be posted on the showroom at did it because got told me to do it and whether or not people like it or don't like it. Like I can't. Look to see whether or not I was affected by moving to the next thing, but see, that's my point whether you like it or don't like it. I must say, I don't care if you like what I say or don't like what I say. Yeah, but I'm gonna fit me. You people don't affect me. Okay. Family can like if you wanna messed me and be like, does this, you should well, that's that's accountable ity sitting, right? Yeah, people don't offend me. I remember who I was when I had no follow. Uh-huh. And I was the ball Oban with zero a man, and I am amazing with a hundred thousand plus I just can't. I cannot afford to give people the power to affect me emotionally vulnerable or not, and Mercer more. I have to stab the comments too because I will go to war for you. Like what? Straight go hood on somebody for you. I appreciate that. Cause your girl is. I mean, I don't want to love hood on vitamins, rise up against the trolls of life. And will, then I love it. I do, but you don't. We don't wanna put out there, but I do too. When did this reminds people I'm out here by myself, so you know, you know, okay. And in this always hard because they take a thirty second clip of your message and dissect it not realizing there's a fool like forty, five minutes supporting balancing thought that goes, but whatever. Okay, it's fine. It ain't no problem. Sean tells is core is a whole mood. Yes, she is each and every day that's how she lives her life. She asked me to come on here. I did ask her because I know the cores, amazing. Listen, Nike. She says, first time in the delegation normally at work. So glad I'm able to join today. Let your pockets the, hey, Chow we, we love you. All right. Okay. So our next rescuing Tanya was no. I didn't real-. No. Core now or is beyond risk you or nominal ready onerous? Oh, yeah. I'll know. The blood can Onda well, no core. The blood will find a way. No, you wear make America great. Again, hats. He said he got again heart taken off of it because it was offensive to black, keep now core. Here's the thing. He said he felt like a superhero. He did say when he wears the, you know why? Because he knows his making people upset. Right? So why rescue somebody who's willingly hurting the black community. Because he needs help. That's why we have to rescue him because he need help, but he knows it and he's not getting it. Yes, in his guy, whole wife will who should be getting him help, but you have, you can't help when you can't help. Right. 'cause you don't her behind will Instagram. I'm just saying a lot of responsibility, but she has a lot of responsibility and that's why she's not able to help. But here's what I'm saying is it she needs some core. I think we should rescue Conway because. I'm trying to come up with nothing you have. No, I do not know seen, no. Okay. So here because he needs help in if he can ever get the support that he needs, then I think that he will be able to really be a force of create kingdom creativity and no. Okay. The delegation says, no. My issue here is that the president of the United States of America do your Donald Duck down with him before going to those who are suffering from a recurring Michael, you can't call the priorities, please. Can we check our. Hornsby's. That is not okay. They're kind. Yeah, it was okay with you sitting with him before going to check on those who are sifting from hurricane, Michael, both of them are wrong only rescue. 'cause ain't trying to rescue. Nobody. Than only risk. Is there anyone who we can rescue today? Rescue ten? Okay. Is there anyone else in the news Facebook live audience? I tried today Shaka come on shimmy shimmy says we all need Jesus essay, rescue him with the bible and a full circle of prion. Mama's come on should good. That's changed. That should make. I'm sorry, this change that I can believe in, and I think that core, I think the cores core is gonna come core is going to help us rescue Kanye core is gonna be one of the core. You pray down heaven wanna be one of the circle. You're going to circle him with pram. Yes, she law and risk doing tamer and that is it. Okay. Does anyone, oh, to carries his core in Kindy. My girls is for me, SIS blazers, his wife and her ship family should be supporting him, but they think everybody needs support. She too busy shower behind on Instagram. Okay. Keep up with the car dash. I just think Shauna gamble has good point. I don't know child. He's been acting a full sense mama Pez maybe. I don't know. That's what I think. I think that when you do not properly process the traumatic events that have occurred in your life that you are left subject to irrational behavior, and that's what we are witnessing and experiencing. And I think that we would not be the delegation. If we turned our backs on those who are in need in one ever. Would ever. They're boy. They go through grieving cast Lynn, and he as a kid, he's not rescue his head several years to do so. Okay. All right. All right. So that was the rescue section of the woman vol podcast. And while. To town to walk to walk to -til Walker. She said, Sarah's return with t Rex arms coming up real short. I would agree. McCall this early, put your boat up, and so it seems like no one wants me to. That's fine. I tried. I hate to see his legacy going down like this because it's going down is going downtown. So I just hollered cores not trying to here today. Note she is not. I'm okay. I honest as the delegation can't save everybody. Sarah, we exclusive. She spoke a word, so let's move onto hail Mary because rescue eve is not working. I wanna give a hail Mary to Marlo Hampton. I know that he hasn't done much that anyone has seen prob. I mean, I know she's done stuff if she'd be like she's painting and stuff, but I know that she hasn't necessarily been in the news for anything of substantial nature, but she did something that blessed me personally that I wanted to give her a hail Mary for those of you who listen to the podcast know that I believe in. Ponytails. I believe that their life changing when done appropriately, I believe literally that people can be one for glory when opponents Hillis national properly for the glory of the lone opponent tale, a properly done pony tail can change a life. Okay. And say. Edges. Leave, you got edge. You do need enters for pony tail or at least enough edge to cover up where you don't have edge. Yes. And you know what right now? I just wanna touch. Agree that guy will restore edges. Yes, because the Edstrom is really been we, oh, I know him to be edge restore, and let me take core. Have you heard of wit groups. Court is these little velvet bands that you can put around your head and they're called weak ribs. And because you know how to combs be trying to come for your ages. You don't have to worry about the combs town out on. Sara, where do you get it? Okay, so I got some from Amazon, but then that the beauty supply store today in sauce, some core, I've never felt more secure getting me some, of course, you know, the wig game, the wit came has to be strong, but let me tell you something about these Bill, but wig rips I've never seen the righteous forsaken and I've never seen a wig so secure listen course life change here for the winning saving edges. Y'all strand by strand inches by Bala polson we grip. Okay, I want you ought to. I had. I had a praise report about a wig grip hold on a non wanna get to the story, but I want us to all be. And if you have a praise report about something that has happened in your life as a result of the delegation pleased ended to me, this lady said, good morning pastor, Sarah, I would just by to take this time out of your schedule to testify your podcast, it's been a blessing. My testimony of what your podcast has done a short at this. Wanna thank God for using you. When you talked about the wig rip yet. Hear me. I bought that way grit before the podcast was over in their came two days later, my life has never been the name and the wings are now immovable, steadfast and unchanging com base lot. Not no more. Thank you because where would I have been if it were not for the woman evolve podcast somewhere trying to sleep sleep, pull my wig back into position during appraise break in church, and that's what the woman involved podcast is all about. We are trying to help people out here, keep their weeks position properly. So you'll edges can be snatched for the ponytail ministry that Marlo Hampton with the week grim. I'm getting me some my hands and has opponent on in this picture. That is at least booty links and let me tell you something her hair is slicked back and it looks like some type of Brazilian naturally kinky Hearns, but her hair looks Indian at the root. It's just it's just amazing. And I had to give her a hail Mary for that, which I know is not necessarily life changing, but it is a blessing unto me. Okay. Let's see. Connecticut's live for a wig grip Ray in Kiana says, gives some vitamins in regret. The edge is naturally. Yes, yes. Regarding edges. Yes, castor, oil, Digital's love those wig ribs. Let me tell you something. Has they grip core? I got one next door. I'm gonna give it to you. Okay. You say anti? No. You didn't live Joe? Yes, I lived in my wig. This is the delegation. Y'all want our lifted. It's a whole. You see that right there and then you just boom. Okay. In. There it is. Okay, Dana, listen, you have to get you have got to have the unit in place. No, moving those fighting get has to stay in place. Yes, it does. Yes, yes, it does. Oh, brandy. She says, okay, as white girl, I got edges issues also found out the fallout directly related to my band. Good. Why girls got age is you better come through with the f. issue, we are more connected. See what I'm talking about. We are more connected racist than we realize John. The white girl struggle with. We wouldn't never thought Josh. Thank you for your transparency. Appreciate you. Oh, no. Why girls got edge issues too. May maybe you don't want to know. We don't want to have that on the issue. Thank your transparency. Not yes. You got edge problems to come on someone in though with five pas edges. I can't breathe some discipline do the breathy Michael part. Thing, but I got that breathy part one. I had that breathy porno unlock. See. That was good to me. Yes. AM come. Okay. Listen, I be in Maryland. I won't be with her in Atlanta, IBM, Maryland, a who is going else. So you need to bring me to Atlanta. Okay. O k I guess you wanna do now. Well, I will with the night in a while tour cores wants to come on the night in a while go, I'm gonna be in merely I know. But you know, I'm doing like a eight city tour. I know I'm a beer to cities now. Okay, but Maryland is November in other cities are in February. I haven't announced those cities. We're gonna be on a bus and everything. I told you I was going to be okay, I'm coming. You gonna. Do the welcome in prayer going. Do let me hear here. Let me let me hear you. Auditions who else is going to welcome in prayer, who nobody, nobody can you audition quick so we can not. Position. Whatever. Okay, so listen, all right. Marlo Hampton. Okay. Jamie says the song has gone. It was beauty. It's fills more. With life changing. Okay, so here we go. All right. My next rescue are now is not risk. Hamming hail Mary. Okay. Have y'all seen this video? Missing blesses me. Can you explain the video? So a thirteen year old. Thirteen year little boy took his mama BMW on a joy. His mama was mama b, b. There you hit. As you get older joy Reid is she followed them with a bell immune system. Is she. Teed up our BMW with a bell Arthur eight year old. And. And why would she not be held Mary. Could you not be. All of you in this be. Just caught a word, the Lord will whoop you write what you did the damage. Hill. And daddy said, if you barest me public where you don't get it is in public for a lot of people in the delegation, don't believe in weapons. They believe in pops. Okay. Have they're working on this that they don't believe in spanking. They just want you to pop me. It's an, I wish we got popped. If we have only pop, we knew was Coca Cola of Dave think that if we'd had gotten popped that we would've been better or worse ish children, I think we would have been worse because we would have thought there was a Joe. Which hopping. Are you doing? Can I say that. Little girls are really interesting to raise the and I don't know that a pop ministry isn't for mind. Kinsey, you struggling with that Lyon, spirit. Can I get an Maher? Anybody? MacKenzie has a McKinsey known just have a lion's, but we won't even get into McKinsey spirit. This what I'm gonna tell you MacKenzie mater sub breakfast this morning. Okay. You don't know how many times I've told MacKenzie to stay out of the kitchen in the morning. And you don't know how many times different Grigny. It's not different grains, eggs, bacon. Yes, first of all ya'll, but that's live. She making eggs bacon at nine. That's my g little super, probably was crunchy. I wonder if she put Lowery's in a maze. I wonder if she fully disappointed me by not abiding by my role, but also putting lorries. I should've asked her little in the kitchen because because I've got here. Not worker wave two. Yes, you would love to have a fire. Oh, she warmed a piece of bread for ten minutes in my microwave. Hen, it fucked up my house for week. I mean, better lover. Yeah. I mean, I did too, but she's gotta stay out. Sicilia says, listen minus eight, and she tests my gangster daily. Not. I talk Hindi the other day I was getting on her and I was talking to her like me and her like I met her off the street list. I was like, first of all, what you're doing is corny, that's wack. No, honestly, it was all I had. I was then you're being way I just told my, you've got to wanna be a better personnel. I try that. This can't be who you wanna, not honestly. But if this is who you wanna be, you gotta let us know because we've gotta just ourselves accordingly for this being who you wanted about that. I told you that. That. And I would almost like to take that idea. I just do bootcamp, Amaker wear uniforms to her public school 'cause they have uniforms. And then she has a peanut butter and jelly everyday. 'cause if you not, that's that's kinda like prison too, as you're at, McKinsey durum down to a cot. Yes and a toilet. And then I got hurt and khaki pants and a, why not even like white polos. I got white t shirts, like man's white t shirts, and I took her hair out of Marcus and I'll call them road onto the back and she had oatmeal for breakfast it can can. I can see him known you got, but she was saying, this is what we have to do now. We can't be them to come up with alternative methods of discipline. Right? And that is a wonderful alternative methods. Yeah. Now I pulled it all the way through so love it. Could you corn wrote? You didn't tell me about the core now for homework corn, all the way down to the bam love. I, I all the way down to. She was like set it off the Disney version. I'm here for this. Can like win. We pretend to drive Mari to a boot camp one month and she cried the whole way there at took her, it would. It was really like a drug rehabilitation than so when we walked in there, people with scratching themselves, look at real scared. She was go. Like that some since then for the rest of your life, did you go on women side? How to scare? How did you explain that to the people inside? I didn't explain it to them. They just let you pop in the drug. Just walk the, you know, you don't know what I'm doing in here. Exaggerating want the NSA. They've already got you your reservation all set and ready to go, and we're going to leave you here for the weeks. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, she was frightened. Did it work? Yes, it did for a couple of months. But here we are again right around the holiday. She gets a little out of sorts, McKinsey. Just like forget every rule that we've ever had, but that things though, but I bet you that Mamma taught us a lesson who's MAC was she, she will bet out in that BMW the done the same thing. Thirteen. Thirteen years in my first of all your luxury vehicle. But you can get what doing. Yeah, you hear what the over over you get whipped over a matter operating car. If I told you to sit down. Over in the thing in that part now would read the whoop you then you go to jail. Yes, yes. That's what I'd be telling the saints when the saints be cutting up in my house. I'll be telling the same. All right. Now that law aimed playing with this law is out here. And if you lie, you're still Simone wants to cheat. My daughter is ten and y'all just pray for because that lion thing she's not good at it. So thankfully got is giving us the discernment to be able to know when she's lying, but she doesn't wanna free herself from that line. She told me yesterday she doesn't have enough faith in the what to trust, that if she tells the truth, she's not going to get in trouble. That's what you know what I tell them. It's not the if you tell the truth that you're not gonna get in trouble because you may get in trouble telling the truth, but it's had that lie makes you feel on the inside. Why. I told him if you're going to get beat, you might as well get Kenya. Chateaux catering to set, not say beat, though will is it makes a lot of wise I going to get worked. You need to get work because you told the truth 'cause you live, I would rather get work. 'cause I told the truth for a long time. We had this role, like if you tell the truth, we won't with you. But if you lie will with you, and we kind of went with that with her too, and you only get a weapon if you know better, but Mari will spend twenty minutes on a lie, trying to convince you that it's the truth. And then when you tell her like there's evidence that this is a lie, I didn't believe in Marin could line till I experienced myself just such a beautiful dumped link and everybody thinks she's so beautiful. She that baby girl is a beautiful liar or no. You can't say for them told her I'm not putting the seed in your. I'm telling you what you doing. I'm telling you what you are becoming alive. Now I'll right. Have that. Maria said this duo podcast is giving me life here at work will praise writing no gifts this Chris for the low girls land for lookers who are. We can't do that. They're granny is MRs Santa Cam on first of all, she wasn't as she'd take our. We told her like no gifts she'd be like, that's really extreme mum was not happy over the jail. He was mama really fed over me. Jinping Jake's, no apostrophe. We do not belong to j. More. She was very upset. She tried to get me on her side to try like it was great alternative discipline, but you only did like thirty days. It wasn't thirty. It was like two weeks. Okay. Yeah. And then the thing is that she, she when it was time to earn things back, it was little things. Can I have something as oatmeal for breakfast? And when I say oatmeal, I mean no butter, no sure. Like oatmeal. Not your grandmother's opened. You take the toast with. Here's a question for the delegation. Since we like to talk about food, do y'all put toast in your oatmeal? Because you're not really about that life. See somebody, I don't even eat high Syria, no more guys that you don't eat your your, but do you butter that tells input it in your oatmeal and watched the Lord lunch, shoot, don't let it be potato. John. My actually change your best what we need to know in cream of wheat. Okay. So listen state, of course tab. So to mama hail Mary to the mama who smacked her child for stealing that car. Because if you steal it, let me tell you something. Okay. I hope is girlfriend or something was in a car, but if if she wasn't it's by the pay less embarrassing. She said pool over now. What else is the Jessica just corresponding to me in everyone, Honey. Listen, I'm a low key comedian. Okay. Okay. Let's see. Is there anything else? Shandor grace is now toast in my oatmeal and not sugar migrant. She said, no, tosa my oatmeal. No sugar migrants added. That's all right. I don't. I'm not gonna let that break up the delegation, like lorries. Did they will cause, you know, that kind of Samantha knows the Lord though because the mantha grace is butter the toast and put it in the oven on Royal. Let me tell you something when I was I got married to my husband and I was making him some breakfast and he acts intelligent, you all, but we don't have. You don't need toaster. We got a right, but you got to watch all you got to watch because her on him, we'll burn mica. Sif in the night areas says she'll put that on the toast. That's that's the same this same thing. Same thing. I do put them migrants. I don't really like that. I like shrimp in group. I make really great grits what you put in heavy whipping cream. But her sugar and a little bit of shredded Bellevue cheeks really. And they're awesome. Okay. While I'm here until Saturday, if you wanna make that happen for me. All right. So. Monica Dorsey says, do you know what will bless your life? Sugar and rice core been on sugar and rice. I made some rice pudding yesterday, but rice. I don't. I don't feel with that sugar and rice thing, but that's fine. That in a problem. So listen. Oh, Meghan. Markle is pregnant hail Mary had what is your source? The internet. The good source, I think so excited for her. She's actually pregnant. But do you think it was a shotgun wedding. That now do you think so? I mean, this is very shortly after they got married was a man. How long is it being? Yeah, it's been a long. I think they got married long, long more long ago than you think, you know what I'm saying? Yes. The, yeah. The palace announced on Monday that she pregnant do do we know I just pop that thing on out. You know what I mean? I think they got married in that was let me go on and get this thing together. You know that that be had a palace role or do you know. Do you air or you don't actually know how the palace. Okay. But you you gotta inside source at the. Looking for areas you watch to plan, have you watched horrid, you him out as the actual Paljor saying, have you watched ground now, but you can't Asian line on Netflix goes hard. Okay. Well, hell Mary Hart are Princess. Okay. Go for th- mega. May the Lord give you a great strong pregnant or as or her sister be out here while in. Have you seen her sister? Her sister's trying to get into her? Half sister was trying to get into the palace. They don't put each other. All right. Price, Lord, everybody. Those are always you next week. Some Samantha market, what CHU? Yes. 'cause she acting like the Americas, half sister somewhere along the road. We all came from and she ain't invite me to nothing. So we rescue in Samantha, we. All right. Great. Great. Great. Great. Great. No, why am cousin or something? And she from LA my husband from LA. We basically family clearly. So yes, a effing. Okay. Those are all our stores. Okay. The next thing we're going to do is have some advice questions. Okay, bye. Squish of savings. Did they got married in may and she so it's it's Tober. She ain't five months. She's doing like April or something. Yes, she finds she find out. They just hurried it up. Yes. What bless her womb? She's. I ready Chazelle book by someone x. where you adopted a mar, do you want to share about she is we did foster to adopt for Mari with an agent with an agency that is no longer active. I believe. I believe that they're no longer if we went through foster care to adopt, and Jason was a Rivat adoption of sorts. Okay. Praise the Lord. So we're gonna move onto the advice questions for today's podcast. I'm really looking forward to hearing your thoughts on these. I'm going to start with number one because I thought it was interesting. Okay. Am says hi there. I love your podcast of recently founded and I listened from Cape Town in South Africa. I have a question that I'm hoping you in your co host can help me with Scott nothing to do with dating unless you can answer questions about my measure boyfriend. I am moving to the US for a season, but I am apprehensive about being a black African woman in the churches in the US I believe in the beauty of multicultural churches, but I am afraid that the things I have seen on the news make me wonder about some of the challenges enjoys about being black and multicultural slash Rachel churches there. I would like to be prepared that can't thank you for making me laugh while I attempt to work out love you. Are you a media answer. Kazaa co hosts, yes, I think that if you go where God is leading you, then you won't have to worry about whether you're going to be accepted or not. There's a lot of Africans that have come over here and gone to different churches from all over the world and have you know, migrated just fine. So I think that if you go to a church that is more about your relationship with guy than how people are gonna feel about where you've come from, then it will be easier for you to handle the adjustment in transition. I agree. I think that you have to find a church that makes you feel comfortable. And I think that that may be by trial and error. But what I do know is that when you walk into a place in you feel the presence of guy and you feel like that person is speaking to you directly that that's probably the place that got us called you to to be fade. Steve been? Like, what advice would you give someone about racism in America who's coming over from another country expected. That's not, oh, for real, that's no real expected. Try not to let what people say are how people feel about something that you can't change to affect. You don't come here naive, you know, like expected. There's gonna be people here that don't like the color of your end. Don't like your accent. Don't like you, you know. And that's not really a African thing that's a life. Thank you. Know racism is not just for whites against blacks. Sometimes racism can be blacks against whites, so it, it's it's naive to think I'm going to come here and have a free live. Nobody's gonna not like me that's not realistic in. So try not to let. Effect. You don't come here with sensitive skin, come here with tough skin and in fit in where you get in. I totally agree. I think that when it comes to racism in America, I don't think that you should just like expected, especially expression, but I think that there's like, I think that you should know that it is a reality in that with that, knowing that you should just protect your heart in certain environments, but also know that there is another reality in that is that a lot of places people are more progressive and are learning about their differences and our differences in how we can work together. And so I think really being sensitive to cause the other thing is like anytime you experience something, you don't necessarily want to think that the reason you're experiencing an awkward moments because of race. Yeah, but I think that anytime you since anything awkward in you can't pinpoint it that you should maybe just move. Away from that environment, but it I do think that you should know it exists, but I just don't think you should go on every situation expecting it yet. What I kind of, I think it's better to expected and not receive it. Then to be caught off guard. For me, I feel like a lot of the things that have been happening kind of help us to be better prepared when we do go into atmosphere's like that in. So I think it's important that when you go into a place that like you said, you're not thinking, oh, this is awkward because I'm black or all this is our, I'm white, but you go in understanding that we as a community have divided and and with that, there are awkward moments that are coming about because of the administration that were under because of the color of our skin because of be statistics and everything else in just the idea that as African Americans, we are not called to send equality of intellect that a white person is in. So I don't wanna say, everywhere you go expect your. Gonna receive racism, but everywhere you go. Stay won't. Yeah. A, you know, it's probably like in LA I don't feel like I experienced racism the way that I did in Dallas. Like I have only experienced by real life racism, once ear, and I took Mari in too good to play Brown in. If if y'all follow me on Instagram by I into story the whole situation, but there was a white lady in her daughter on the playground, and we went to the playground and the little girl goes up tomorrow and she's asking all kinds of questions was school. You go to, where's your house? And she turns around and she tells her mom, they do live here. She goes to the school of St.. And to Goliath kept trying to say hi to her, she wouldn't say hi. Mine was like, like your dog. She wouldn't say hi to were in when we went to walk to our car. 'cause I am not the mother for that kind of situation. I was like, kids, let's go in. So as we're walking to the car, she let her dog loops. Oh, on me into their Mari, really? And so we're like run into the car and I, the car light. It had been a hot dog. Did you run over him? Five really like, this is what we're doing. I have every right to be in this in this playground just like you do like we're, we weren't allowed like an you didn't say, nothing aren't. You brought out praise the lower. Listen. 'cause I love this something. She knows her sister. I saw that happened to you. It was frustrating. Kinsey felt like she experienced a lot of racism in the school that she was in in Denver, but but we say all of that today, that as there is the reality of racism in racial tension. And I think that just being in a place where you are sensitive to that being a reality, but also aware that there are environments were that can you know not be true for sure is good as well. Okay. So my next question. You're not. Okay. Okay. Here it is good day. My first lady, I hope you are will in your office in other planes are coming together. Okay. So I don't know if I'm the only one with the issue, but I don't know how to deal. So how is it possible to have the right words in right things to say to people almost all of the time and actually help them set such that they even say that the Holy Spirit surely spoke through me, but now but know that when it comes to me, I don't have them as in the answers in, don't even know how to use them for me. I don't know if any other person in the delegation be going through this, but I'm getting so tired in don't really know how to move out of this rut in seems like God is quiet on me. Don't know what to do this. Please help. This mirror method. Okay. If you, if you can help somebody else like tape your issue to the mirror and talk to yourself as if you are a friend that's calling in in, walk yourself through processing out, what would I tell somebody else if they were going through what I am going through right now in the mirror, mirror yourself and an answer that question often times it can be that there is somebody in your life that has the ability to give you the advice in the wisdom that you're looking for event. Sometimes there isn't and it when when there isn't you have to ask yourself, have I surrounded myself around a bunch of people who need me, but can't feed me. And if that be the case, I need to kind of change my surrounding so that I, it can be an iron sharpening iron situation. But I would definitely mirror in ask myself, if if if this was somebody come into me, what would I tell them to do? And you wanna practice what you pre on somebody, if you're telling somebody else to believe, God is gonna work out. Everything's gonna be okay. Then you can't be sitting at home crying and hollering in your bathroom because you feel like everything is gonna work out. You need to be able to practice what you preach in. Sometimes God will bring the test to you based off of an advice that you've given to somebody else to see if you believe what you said. Because a lot of people are really good at giving advice, benign, taking their on buys. And what I have learned is God can go silent on you until you activate what he's already told you to do. I, why would I. Continue to give you fresh word first revelation. When you have an activated the word that I've already given you still in relationship, you still haven't written the book. You still haven't forgiven. You're still bitter, but you want me to also bliss something that you're doing. I'm gonna bless what transforms you from the inside out, not that which makes you comfortable. So I love that. Leslie Marcel says, love the mirror method candidates that's good deleted. His loving the demon, fully double up. Sister sister Evans says, listen core. That's it. Chorus spoke a word. Let's see that Britney. Why says that's good people who need me, but can't feed me. That is a whole situation. I love this so much. Looks like the delegation has chimed in and you preached a word. My sister give a little something, something disalow some-something. Okay. So we answered our advice questions. We rescued some of the saints, and we also gave a good hail, Mary too few people. But you know how we do this. Cast is not complete unless we have a snack and how could I have the incomparable past records Coleman sitting beside me and not as her to break off with the snack. So core, I'm tossing it over to, okay. The bible says that if we delight ourselves in the Lord that he will give us the desires of our Hari better of the concept of delight is please if you please the Lord, then he will give you the desires of your heart. By also tells us, said it is in hostile to please God without faith. And so all fin, we will pray and we won't ask God for things that will please us. But my question is when is the last time you have pleased God. When is the last time you have surprise God with your level of faith. When is the last time, got his looked at your life and saw closure in what you were doing pleasure. In what. You were believing. Have you stretched yourself as far as you can go in in that stretching? Has it pleased you more than it has pleased God we can get in the habit of making sure that we are taking care of, but never really chiming in connecting to the source of who God is for our lives in. So as you are strengthening your face, as you are looking for God to grant you, the desires of your heart because incidently that is what we often pray is that we can get the desires of a heart that we will gain the desires of our heart. As you're doing that, I want you to keep in mind that your desires do not come into you are able to please God. I until you are able to surprise him with your measure of faith. A mustard seed was the minimum requirement of faith. You have the ability the opportunity. The unique opportunity to stretch your faith to a place that is so pleasing to God, that you will be pleasure as well. And so that is my snack for today. Don't be so greedy that you forget to police got let me tell you something that was more than a snack that was a whole meal. And I believe the delegation agrees low toys. This come on core come on. When was the last time help us guide. Amanda says into think we only need faith. Deborah Clark says, you'd better speak core insured reese's. We get in the habit to please ourselves and not see God that was such a word should make stretching is so uncomfortable, but so necessary. Preecha core sounds like you bless the saints. I try my best. Thank you for being on the woman evolve Baga. Thank you for having me. I'd love to come back this. No, no. This must happen again and again and again, and I'm gonna have better rescues next time and hopefully you will rescue them. Yeah, because so far maybe before the season is over this season ends in November. So maybe before the season is over will swing it back one more time. We'll use supposed to be taking me boxing this week, but that's for one off TV. Oh, okay. I'm going to try and find this box in classes. How do you get on woman evolve? TV. You go to woman evolve that calm in click what? And then you can subscribe to evolve TV subscription. Yes, Honey, you've got fancy stuff on. Yes, there's a seven-day free trial. And then after that, it's five dollars a month and we've got all kinds of bashes. She Brunen Netflix, I know, but you know what? It's actually let me tell you how I came up with this. So I wanted to have the material from the conference available for people to watch on demand, but like people don't really add in. I didn't think DVD's were really like hot is. So I decided to just put all of the content up on TV salads. Like if I were to buy a DVD of all of the sessions, how much would it be? And I'm like, it certainly would be more than five dollars a month. Maybe a full package of every single session would be like sixty dollars. So that's how I did the pricing. But I decided since then the have original content. So we've got like yoga, we got fitness, I'm doing pajama interviews and then you and I are going boxing rear going by saying, that's it folks warmly Volve TV before we close out, we have to pray. That's how we do the podcast. Oh, of course. Yes. So price out father. Got, I think you because you are sovereign. I thank you because whatever it is that we're going through, you've already prepared a solution for it. So got, I pray that you would open up doors of favor opportunity, supernatural access God to things that the. These women, these men, these people that have gathered under the sound of my voice. And even those who will watch the replay God, I pray that you would open up doors for them guy that you would. He'll bodies that you would dry up cancer that you would heal children that you would hill marriages restore renew and revive us that we may be evolved in you that we may evolve into who you would have us to be help us to make choices that give you the victory help us to make choices that make us become the women and the men that you've destined for us to become. I thank you for life. I thank you for mobility. I thank you for the ability to see, hear, speak and know that you are ever present at thank you for liberation. I ask that you continue to be liberating God for our souls, bring peace where there needs to be peace, bring joy where there needs to be joy, bring favor where there needs to be favor, and we will be careful God to give you all the. All the praise, the glory and the honor that your name is due. And it is in your son, Jesus name that we decree declare that these things are. So it is so and so it is a man and Levy cenex wing.

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Entertainment News 07/20/20

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

07:38 min | 3 weeks ago

Entertainment News 07/20/20

"In. Today's entertainment news on Saturday August Alsina dropped his brand new single. It's called entanglements. It features Rick Ross We all know how. Yeah Yeah Right. We all know entanglement. On sound like a game. Komo surely, you're trying to make money off of it now. I mean and he was hurt. He said he was in love all right, but but check it out. We all know entanglement is the term that Jada Pinkett. Smith used when she described her relationship with August on an episode of Red Table Talk With. Will Smith some of the lyrics from August song include. The definition of entanglement is when you tangle in the sheets. Ricky rose as lyrics on the song, said willpower and being jaded, so you now on the slats? Capitalist Right. Word about without. We'll that much money. Yeah. I, mean you know first of all is hard to make money off recordings anymore? Because people they steal music. Nobody. Day Stream, but I mean how many. I'm just saying whatever the money you making. Is it worth that? And my is a flat out. No. You could try to capitalize on something and make money. Just remember that that did a little sex tape was hanging on the shower curtain. Me Me me. where she? Still loves him she's on loving. Hip. Hop Atlanta. Doing what she was doing before the thick state. DOING IT, yeah! I mean I can't dogs, I'm in an entanglement myself. What? You've been on vacation. You've gotten tangled when you're on vacation. covy. found. You Got Cova. June dealing with it. You the whole thing, Tom just Kovic copied right. Everything can't go nowhere can't do then. That's an entangled. Now, we've thought with an older woman. Yeah, that's what we thought you. You're in love. Tied this. Yeah It'd be gone in a minute. Consider. Twelve hundred cases go down at noon in two weeks. Says you build a wall, have clean coal. All of that stuff so. All fully to. How. Well. Just to. Anything that comes to his head, whether it's true, and he's saying anything that he'll think they'll get him. The votes in. November make him want again. also an entertainment news We're all sending our our prayer of healing out to Taymor Braxton and the entire Braxton family take was rushed to the hospital in Los Angeles on Thursday night after she allegedly attempted suicide police and EMT's. Yeah, this is so sad. responded to a call from the Ritz Carlton, Hotel. And when they found Taymor in her room, which is her boyfriend told them that she may have overdosed on unspecified pills and alcohol. He explained that she'd been upset earlier in the day and had threatened the idea of suicide. The braxton family is asking friends and family and fans for their prayers and we definitely. Are sitting out the. Steve Harvey Morning Show Yeah. Yeah. Yeah we. Pulling for you and the whole. Family. All Right Steve Time to move on and get to some headlines please. Raising Gentlemen Miss and trip. Thank you very much everybody. This is an trip with the news. And here we go according to reports, the corona virus is spreading faster and affluent. So boy was like. California now than in La. County that's a switch. The La Times says it over the last week. Orange County as well as two other suburban neighborhoods, Riverside. San Bernardino have reported higher cova cases per capita than La County. However, president trump is downplaying the uptick in the nation's corona infection rate telling Chris Wallace on Fox. News Sunday that. It's just an uptick in testing, not disease. Those cases are young people that would heal today. They have the sniffles and we put it down as a test. Many of them people will get better and in many cases. They're going to get better very quickly. Cases are up because we have the best testing in the world. That's what he says new. York governor Andrew Cuomo however suggests the trump administration is sick within competent says he puts it house. Democrats are demanding that the Justice Department open investigation into the trump administration's use of force against peaceful protesters in Washington DC and in Portland Oregon they want know why so much force had to be used to white men in. Indiana have been charged in connection with an alleged July fourth assault against a black man where he says they tried to lynch him, and there's video as part of the. Book happens to be the victim the victim. He's a member of the Monroe County Human Rights Commission in Bloomington. Indiana finally. America great met on Friday Georgia Congressman John, Lewis, and the REV, according Tyndall or C. T Vivian Carson. Lewis and Revenue Vivian were in the forefront of the legendary struggle for racial justice in this country. Both men work with the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Louis At the age of twenty three was the keynote speaker at the historic march on Washington in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty three. Two years later he was nearly beaten to death by state and local police on what became known as bloody Sunday in Selma Alabama. Pictures of what happened that day helped to galvanize support for the civil rights. Act of nineteen, sixty five. Congressman Lewis. Reverend, Vivian, meanwhile worked alongside the Reverend King in the Southern, Christian leadership conference, and also like Louis Reverend See TV and was also freedom rider. which meant he rode the buses and sat in at racist lunch counters later in life both Congressman Lewis and the reverend. Vivian were awarded the Presidential Medal of freedom by the nation's first black president rock. Obama. Lewis said it was like an out of body experience, representative John, Lewis died at age eighty on Friday. After losing about with cancer referenced Vivian died of Natural Causes at age ninety five now back to the Steve Harvey Morning. Show you're listening. Hardy morning show. 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Entertainment News 07/31/20

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

07:05 min | Last week

Entertainment News 07/31/20

"Sometimes, our food is more than just food. It's part of our community. So this year discover is giving five million dollars to support black owned restaurants to places like Rodney, Scott, Barbecue Post, office pies, and hundreds more learn how you can show your support at discover dot com. Hi, I'm Devin Leary Carolina Barlow and we're here to tell you to dumb dump-in break up with your boyfriend and we want you to listen to our podcast true romance every week where we talk about our love lives and the lives of others please join our XS who we know will also be listening like, Kyle. Kyle, are you there? Hey, babe how's life? No, you look good though me Oh my God dog please I haven't even gotten a haircut like three months. Okay. Please help us pay for Carolina psychiatrist bills by listening on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts launch. And today's trending entertainment news. Some good news Taymor Braxton breaks her silence on her suicide attempt She released a statement saying that she is on the path to healing. That is a great news. Yes. Following her recent hospitalization after she was found unresponsive in a hotel room Tamar posted it was only God's grace and His mercy on my attempt to end my pain and my life that I am here to utilize my voice. She said that she counts on most to be what she counts on most is to be a good mother, a daughter and a good partner and a good sister. Yeah the Great. For. A really nice person man. She's really a nice person really one on one. She's really really a nice person. She's witty. She's got great personality. You, know I hate that people? I feel for anybody that Lit Satan. robbed them of their destiny. Only. mission. He's the ultimate evil one. I'm just glad she got back towards the light, but she's really really cool. Person Man Very truly am. Definitely and she thanked everyone for their prayers well. Yeah she did. And in other news, this is sad former presidential, hopeful, and trump supporter Herman Cain has passed away from cove at nineteen. Herman. CAIN had been hospitalized for more than a month with corona virus after attending the president's ill-fated Faded Tulsa Rally without a mask Mister Cain who made his fortune in the restaurant business sought the Republican. Nomination for the two thousand twelve election room. We all remember that but suspended nine. Yeah. Over allegations of sexual misconduct which he strongly denied. He's been a supporter of president trump for a while and he's been a strong supporter. Trump said he loved Herman Cain and he was friend Theo. Got My condolences. Lovely. I don't wish I don't wish death on nobody. I don't kill what should do. Exactly. That's the sad I mean you know he got family he got kids grandkids. I don't I don't care if look man. You're not my enemy because you Republican or Conservative absolutely you know. You become my enemy. Something directed at me. When? Yeah, you know but if you got different belief or policy than you, not my enemy. Like always say look through the the Golden Eagle is the symbol of America in order for an eagle to fly properly in these a right wing and left wing. It don't fly with one wing partner. So I don't mind a person having a different. Oh Way of going about it to me you know if you don't have values deaths one thing, but now you can't force all of your values on me. No more than I could fought all of mine on you. That's kind of what President George W. Bush said at John Lewis Memorial Congressman John Lewis Memorial. He said that he and John Lewis. Didn't always see eye to eye on things he said, but we're Americans and that's why we live in this country because we can agree to disagree democracy. Yeah. Yeah. We can be on the wrong again on different sides but still come together you know. So that's basically what you're saying is well, Steve and see Donald. Trump is the direct opposite you either on his side or yes jess or your enemy that yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Does no reaching across the aisle with this guy That's why once again. We have a say. So in this, the only reason you're. The only way your vote doesn't count is if you don't cast. Cast your vote, this November, go to. Go to win we all vote, dot. Org. If you're not a registered voter, go to when we all vote DOT ORG and registered in cash show vote then you voted for trump trust me you did. uh-huh. That's how it works. Man we a vote we have to vote. All right coming up more music, some trending topics and headlines Twenty minutes after the hour. Right after this, you're listening to David Harvey? Morning. Show. I I'm Devin leary and I'm Carolina Barlow and we're here to tell you to dump him break up with your boyfriend and we want you to listen to our podcast true romance every week where we talk about our love lives and the love lives of others please join our XS. 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CBB2 | Sunday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 27

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40:57 min | 1 year ago

CBB2 | Sunday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 27

"Every morning Terry on drums. Yes. Insanity. Sees you know, the reason you. Ross said that he could do to Morrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for January twenty seventh. I'm during Armstrong and with me today is Leah hiding leader. And so good, it may appear that I'm back as an bitter. But I have heard that one of your feet you with the rhinestone dot collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human of greed to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized new home was within reach. Learn more wellsfargo dot com slash Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments is three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance has a home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgages, the division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. MLS three nine nine hundred one update is is simply twist. Update schedule. You thought leader was here to update you. But actually, she was never really updated all along. We just needed the headlines of leader is going to. Off things, and then I just exit out of this tariff by himself. Yeah. But but before you do that you give us a challenge to complete. Yes. The leader update where everybody has to update wearing cat ears and doing their impression of me. And I heard you off to Switzerland. That's true. Oh, yes. I say all of that on Instagram. Everybody thought I went to Switzerland last year, but I was really going this year. Well, we are here to the everything that happened on the live feeds yesterday and there was quite an outage yesterday. So you have to be a little bit, you know, prepared for that. However, there's still a decent amount update here. So the the feeds were down for most of the day nine hours for no particular good reason, there were some crazy rumors about as well, but we'll get into it. All we started the day with Lolo and taymor. And I guess unsurprisingly Tae mar was pretty upset about what had happened the night before. Which is that low low Natalie and Ricky stay up really late together. Just chatting mostly about damar and how they could handle her. And the potential that she might get nominated by Kato. And so was asking what was that about? Where were you guys talking about? I feel kind of left out. I feel like not happy about this. And Lolo was just like, I don't know. Maybe it was too early in the morning for her. But Lola was just not having it. No. I mean this so quickly on both of their parts because Lolo is talking about how DNA is just upset that that she was left out of the Jonathan vote and KMart as like, well, she's lying because she did know about the Jonathan vote and Lillard just starts the sentence. Like, well, if she is lying and bars like us, lying, and they start just like yelling at each other expected for these Timour dislike. Don't ever get into an argument about whether or not somebody is lying because she is very convinced about her ideas of line. But also like in her defense Lolo is no insomnia section either Lolo just loses. It just like, she's maybe maybe it's the stress of trying to handle tame taymor for this long. But I mean, we've seen her lose it with Tamar before these two together is just not a great combination. And so basically what happens is that? Taymor one point just as all right? If I if I'm hearing anymore this if if you call me anything again, if you call me any names again, then I'm going to start yanking. Yeah. The b word is specifically mentioned she's kind of dairy her to call him. It'd be word. Yes. And so low low says yanking, then do it and Tim are says then say it and Lolo says, then do it. To says. Parable sitcom. Just rinse and repeat for a little while. Right. And meanwhile, seeds are cutting between these scenes and you're coming back. There's still screaming at each other. It's like just a chaotic morning, friends taymor and Lolo. So that's what's happening with jamar the feeds cut then. But before they do that. There was a conversation with Tom and Kato where they kind of confirmed the plan is to nominate DNA entail. Mar. And Tom Tom also make sure to mention, hey, let's make sure we're not looking like we're trying to protect Ryan because we don't want the women to turn on us by making them think that we're working with Ryan and the like Bercy currently trying to get one over on them or anything. So let's let's try to be clear about that. So that's happening with the feeds cut after this big argument with Lolo and tame our and then they're down for nine hours. And there were some rumors that Lola was adjusted from the game for physical contacts with tame mar. Nobody should have believed these rumors they came from somebody. I think who is spread false rumors before and yet multiple news outlets posted. This is basically facts TMZ talking about this. I don't know if DMZ I'm sure they were, but I was all over that survivor proposal. Finale this year. So I trust them implicitly. I saw. Hamster watch post like a screen shot of their Google search results for big brother celebrity news, and this was like long after the feeds were back and Lolo was still in the house. And there were the three top articles were all Lolo ejected from the big brother celebrity house for physical violence. Well, at least they had a question, Mark. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm I'm sure I'm sure that all of them. They're going to delete the articles and post retractions and say, hey, we're sorry. We got it wrong. Just so, you know, there was no physical violence. Lolo? Did not do anything. I'm sure I'm sure they're all going to do that. Yeah. There's going to be a tiny correction in tiny print at the bottom. But says update JK, and that's responsible. I'd honestly be surprised if they even went. Big legal. They have to, but I can say don't know. Here's the here's literally the screen shot. Hamster watch posted Google Lolo Jones top stories celebrity big brother fans, speculate Lolo Jones, kicked off following fight. With dot dot dot was Lolo Jones, kicked off CBS after fight with Tamar celebrity brothers spoilers Jones, reportedly booted after physical altercation. I mean, the really covering their basis. I'm sure that eight fan has speculated that yes there wasn't fan. That was exactly it and some random Twitter spoilers before with about forty followers posted this. They can't reveal their sources. That would be really slots journalism. Yeah. Well. Feeds comeback. Low low is still in the house. And Dina and tame are are in fact nominated for eviction we are at least I assumed that they were playing veto, which is why the feeds are down for so long. They did not play the veto. They just did nominations. There was quite a bit of drama apparently that followed the nominations, and there's certainly was a little bit that we saw on the feeds, but still have really no idea why the feeds down people people are saying look people have been making a lot of big brother, Canada comparisons based on the editing of the episodes. How bad it is. And now with a random like nine our feet outage for no reason. Starting to starting to make some sense here. The the big brother Canada comparisons. I feel like I felt like big brother US always wanted to be more like big brother Canada. But they felt like they couldn't copy it. So so now with the celebrity edition, I feel like they're trying to be like, hey, no, no this we can do big brother Canada. But but it's different because we're celebrities. That's it. What if we take all of the worst parts of big brother cameras? So we don't mimic the amazing cast in the great game play like that. We just mic that the feeds are out forever. And all the annoying parts that everybody loves Kemba. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go Dina and tame are up on the block taymor is going to have a conversation with DNA. She is obviously upset that she's on the block, but even more than that even more than that she's upset because Kato apparently in his nomination speech mentioned her son, and we'll get a little bit of a conversation with her and Kato later where he goes on to explain that he apparently has been told that taymor wants to leave because she wants to be with her son that she's sad because she's not with her son. And then he also said that she doesn't like clean up after herself. Very well. And so both of those things were upsetting to tame on. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's fair to be upset about like, I think a lot of people who who will say like, oh, I'm so mad that you brought somebody's name into this that I think is little silly. When people like say, like swear on your on, your son, or whatever like, I think that that's all that's all whatever. But to say like, you should go home to your son. Like, we would you say that to a father first of all? And Secondly, like where is this even coming from like if you didn't hear it from her that's not really fair for her? It's like have expressed a private moment of like, I miss my son. Of course, she does you know like that's not fair to use against her. And like play it off his JiJi of like, oh, like I'm doing you a favor because you need to go home to your son. It's just really kind of gross and also like a super cop out for Kato. Yeah. I think I think taymor comes to a conclusion that Natalie is probably the one that told him which I think it might actually be true or no actually might have been Lolo. But but yes, like like using that as because here's the thing and taymor. I think understands this more than most people is because she she knows she's very used to people trying to make her out like she's crazy, which sometimes she is a bit over the top. However, she also has experienced a lot of people trying to make her out to look like that. And when you try to avoid looking like that you often come out looking like that. So, but the point is that nobody's going to see the again, just like these articles of Lolo. Nobody's gonna see the conversation afterward. We're like, well, no, that's not the case. They're only gonna see the episode and the nomination thing where Cato says, you're you're slob and you want to go home because you miss your son. And neither of which she feels are particularly true. So I definitely understandably upset and Kato. We'll we'll talk about Cato a little bit later. But. Really really bad h h here so far for Katie not only bad decisions, but definitely bad bad speeches about optics. Just don't you can't make those decisions for other people. Like, you can't decide that somebody needs to go home because of personal things. And also like you can't it's just so icky to me and like note for future big brother players like please don't use people's outside lives against them. Like, it's really is not fair to like be penalized for being a mother misses her son in this again. This is exactly the kind of thing where. This is this is very relevant to strategy. Like, the fact that we're we're talking about this not only because of like the personal ramifications in what's right, and what's wrong. But this is celebrity big, brother. These people will watch the show afterward, and they will see everything, and when you do things like this that are unnecessarily personal and unnecessarily. Just like, whoa. Why would you say that to Cato Cato? Why would you say that about are that makes a huge difference when it comes to Jerry management on this version of the show, you need to be careful, and I don't understand why I do understand because they still haven't really watched the show. I mean, our has like someone who has never seen a show for and particularly doesn't. Well, I don't know if he's seen the show before. But particularly like not understanding the differences of celebrity because it is so new, and I guess like easy for them to forget that like the jury portion of this is very different. Which is a great point. Like, I don't know, man. You can't get caught up in the moment, or whatever his lame excuse is going to be for this. But he also never apologize. So we then get. Dna is also upset with Kato because because she was the whole Dina thing. Let's let's talk about the other side of where Kato's wrong here. Is that DNA really likes Cato really liked Kato really was on board with working with Kato? But. But KEDO decided not to tell her about the vote for Jonathan Dina was upset about that Kato did her wrong. She was upset because she was upset Cato was like. Now, eight her she's upset with me. And she's on the block somebody that he should be able to work instead of apologizing and just being like, I'm sorry. I just I didn't know what to do. And I know you like Jonathan I didn't want to implicate whatever he nominated her. And so now she's obviously upset about that and about the deteriorating relationship here. So that's that's happening as well. Right remarkable game play is just like any person who might possibly nominate you at any point in the future. Just get rid of the don't try to build any prince because totally work. So tame our talks with Lolo and her solution to their conflict is all right? You know what? We just won't talk game. I'm not gonna talk game with you and Natalie anymore because I just I wanna be able to remain friends with you guys. Yeah. And not only that. But she's also not gonna talk to Ricky anymore because Ricky didn't come in check on her or check in with her at all during the day after all this happened. So, you know, she's also really mad at Kato. So she has just decided to with. With house and not speak. But for people now, here's the thing about taymor. If she is upset, and you don't go and see if she like how she's doing then you're dead to her. If you do come and see how she's doing then she'll probably get into an argument with you because she's upset, but that's better than not coming to see if she's upset because if you don't come to see if she's upset then you're dead to her like Kato and Ricky or just dead to her right now, and she never wants to see or speak to them ever again. But she will end up having a couple of hours later conversational Kato. So maybe maybe voiding her is actually the best Raji, and then talking with her after things have settled who knows who knows is. It's a tricky. It's a tricky situation wrecking situation. Tricky ricky. So we get a conversation with Natalie low low, Tom and Kato they come together to talk about the plan for the week. They discuss back Doering Ryan that seems to be the main plan right now is let's take off taymor and will end up back during Ryan and everything will be fine. And happy lo lo is kind of like what about Joey though, could we do Joey instead Ryan like maybe thinking about Joey because I still have some weird relationship with Ryan. Maybe I dunno argument, and I can't possibly I give her enough credit to not believe that she actually thinks this. But her argument for keeping Ryan is so funny to me, which is that like America is going to turn on you hit. Oh, if you nominate Ryan because Ryan is so popular it's America's sweetheart Ryan locked e who like we only know as like. Being a moron and be like lying about having a crime committed against them during the Olympics. Like is. He's the someone that people are like, no, not our poor. Sweet right. Not Ryan locked -i. I mean. To be fair as he points out when he's in the diary room there apparently telling him that he's made for TV. They're loving everything that he's giving them in the diary room. And I don't know I think he is kind of coming off as one of the more likely people on the cast, which is probably saying more about the cast. Hundred percent agree with? I think he's pretty good on this. So I agree. He is entertaining. But it's just like it's not to the degree that like people rioted in the streets. We. Ryan here. I think people are more likely to riot against Kato just for not listening to Tom ever. And for being just like total zero. Screen. Sorry. I don't care about him. Also, like a revolted. I also confused about Lola's argument here because like what's going to happen. Kato kaylin career is going to suffer like what what does he do? Zand to lose his what was it thirteen thousand Twitter followers, like. Okay. It's just like I don't know if America turns against him who who cares like what what is Kato kaylin trying to make himself these days that he really needs America's support the next time. He goes on a reality show. It might be fan based voting what reality show is Kato going on. He's going to be on the challenge. Nick. So anyway, anyway, repulsed trackers starring Natalie Natalie's, really pushing no it needs to be Ryan also Kato says I made a deal with Joey I'm not gonna back back away from the deal. I'm not going to nominate Joey so Joey is safe. But he does want at least one person from that trio gone, Joey Ryan or DNA he sees them as a trio they're not really. In fact, we're going to see Ryan try to start that trio a little bit later after this conversation because he saw these four talking and DNA is on the block Kato really really bad at this game. I'm I'm discovering he's he's real. He's reminding me of Raoul from big brother Canada for I think, I think that he might be you know, one of the all time worst. Polled. Call. This is seriously one of the worst aviation, so okay? So we're gonna continue this conversation with the four of them Kato starts as Cato wants now. All right. So per from us who do we think has the best chance to win this game? Tom. I know you think it's Ricky. And Tom is like, oh, thanks for telling them that. They're they're super close was Ricky. But okay, I guess I gotta go with it. Now. So Tom is like, yeah. Ke's pretty dangerous. I think I think that because he knows about our four person alliance which because they talk for eleven hours in this conversation now everybody knows about because obviously Ryan notice that they're talking. Yes, he's like TOMS like Ricky, I think Ricky's the most dangerous I think that he knows about us. So obviously if he ever wants to win the game he needs to split us up and the women are like, nah. That he's not gonna do that. What are you talking about? Because he knows that he's with them and Ricky splits them up. It's going to be Tom and Cato on the block and Tom's like. I mean, I think it's dangerous though. I mean, he's why wouldn't he make the move feel like things going to happen? And the women are like not don't worry about it point. Yeah. It's just Ricky is cool personal IM name. I don't think. So the women don't even think their final alliance. The women are like, yeah, we made a one week deal with these students. And catos like, yes. Funnel four. Can't. Wait bricky is definitely not gonna come for us. They promised. Well, they probably. Let me take out one of my own allies. For them. Yeah. It's bad. It's bad. Nice to see like somebody being kind of spun around by the women because I feel like a lot of this is like men talking actual game and women screaming at each other. Glad to see somebody being a man being taken down by two even if it's kiddo. Caitlyn? Yeah. Whatever. Something here. Yes, we do. Then see Ryan notices that these four have been talking for a while. And he's like. Hey taymor. Do you think that they might be working together? Like in an alliance. Locking sounds like Scooby doo. He's. Feel working. Hey, Ryan, you want some Scooby snacks you want some luck. These snacks. This is next. Look, it's bird. Oh. Anyway. So Ryan is like, hey, hey, Samar think they're working together. And tame our says, yeah, they are. They're an alliance. Also, Ricky is with them. Okay. That's dangerous. Good to know. Yeah. And Ryan like, well, maybe the rest of us should be. Hm? Wait a minute. So if Tom Cato Lolo Natalie Ricky, our lines than maybe that means that's five there's ten maybe we I'm me, Joey Dina. Rickie handy. Seriously, did mention Rinke. Lookout. Wait a minute. Can we trust tricky? No. With them. Unbreakable alliance right is point together the the here. Yes. So, but he does go to Dina. And he says, hey, those four are working together potentially with bricky. So we so we should get together with candy, and Rick and Joey and make this happen. We can be in an alliance. It'll be great and dean is like, yes, I agree. I'm all aboard. Yes. And so then you down gets Joey he gets Joey on board. Joey, Joey, Joey. Yeah. Absolutely, bro. Yeah. Let's do it. And then some Burke's, and we'll be good, and then some push-ups, and then it'll be great. But then they're like can we trust Ricky? I don't know about. Because thinking is definitely the strong suit of these two Joey and Ryan I think we did skip over time wise that Cato did have his conversation with Tamar, and they hashed out the thing when taymor said, I'm not sad about my son. I'm here for my son. Don't don't don't be worrying about that. And catos like. Sorry about that. I was told in all of this stuff and things may not be as they seem as the great Julie, Chen, moon, visits and. The maybe maybe you'll end up being safe. And maybe there's another plan in the works. Yeah. Maybe wait. That's Kato says to her. Well, look, I added. Some more words he said things might not be as. Weirdly confident. Being. I try to get their essence. Just clarifying. But he wasn't like, ooh. Never know. Twins. Basically, let's like, hey, we're going to be we're going to be back touring. Ryan don't worry about it. So then we get DNA in Kato talk. This is after Ryan approaches DNA with this idea for a an alliance and DNA is telling Kato, hey. I don't like what you did. She tries to make him feel bad for for what happened. And she says like what what do I need to do to stay here because I want stay, and I wanna work with you guys. I like you guys what what happened? Why is this happen to us Cato? And he basically implies like when the veto. And you know, maybe there's a backdoor option for maybe somebody named Ryan. And she's like, oh, yeah. Great. I would love for Ryan's ago. I'm totally onboard. What about their new unbreakable alliance? Look Deena who knew she's a backstabber. Cato was right all along, man. Dino is some good instincts here. I think that it seems as though Ryan and Joey are sinking ship. She is not going to go down with that ship, and she is going to try and work way in with Tom and Cato, which is what they should have done all along. But. She's she's managing to go. Talk to Tom. Kid who's gonna talk Tom about this conversation? They talk about like, hey, maybe we can bring in DNA with us if she stays maybe that can be something that can happen. Like, yeah. We were talking about that like five days ago. But thanks, thanks for finally catching August. They, you know, maybe maybe even take her off the block instead of taymor tobacco a riding. Tom is again going to be like. And then the thing about Ricky is and keta just like. Final word on this matter. I am. Not nominating. Ricky. A points to Tom for. I don't know being insisted for trying to get this land to work. Kato is the worst alliance member. Terrible H O H. I'm serious like he's so bad. He's so bad isn't aligns member listening to the women who are playing him. And he's not listening to Tom who actually does have his best interests or their best. And the thing is like last week. When Cato was saying, no, we're going to continue to take Jonathan. We shouldn't not take out Jonathan. He was being super stubborn about it. And not listening to Tom, and I was like Kato come on have some fun. But at least it was the right decision. Right. Like, at least he was actually. Right. That time this time. He's being Justice stubborn if not more. So which is frustrating because he's anti anti team fund. But he's also really wrong about it this time, right? Which is so much worse. Yeah. We love clueless 'nice, plus extreme confidence. That's what makes for a really good big brother player. So that's what it's looking like it's looking as though the veto. Will be used either on DNA or tamer. It's there are very few people. I think that wouldn't use it. Maybe Ryan would use it on Dina. And then hope that Kato sticks to his word and doesn't nominate Joey and hopes that they can keep the three of them safe. I I'm guessing Joey wouldn't use it. But I think basically everyone else would. And and Ryan is definitely in a lot of trouble here. Lock day travel. Regretting having back. There was talk about the veto playing out live on Monday as well as the live vixen. They were told that Monday was alive show. However, the person who said this was Joey, and then other people said it as well, I think Joey was the first person to say it, which might have put it in other people's heads. He also said it was going to be a two hour episode on Monday, which I believe it is not which means that he may just be assuming that the veto is going to be played live on Monday based on last season. Because that's what they did last season. But they're potentially not doing the same thing as last season because it's not a two hour episode. So we don't know exactly what's happening with the veto potentially. It's going to happen today. Or it's going to happen live on Monday. It's going to be one of those two because they can't play it not live on Monday. Right. Okay. Well, either way you're going to let us know. I will. Yes. There were a couple of other funny things here tame, our did let the women know that Ryan is onto them. Oh, Ryan saw you guys talking with Tom and Cato. He knows that you're working together. Left out the part where she said that they're working together and Ricky involved, but said, hey, watch O rien. He's he's got he's he's a smart one. He's got it all figured out that thing that anybody has ever said about Ryan Laki before. Yes. So intelligent and crafty, we we also got a couple of great showy moments. He's he's still very he's I think he's so easy to make fun of them starting to like him in a weird way. He's he's into the bedroom. And he's just like. All right, guys. Ryan, I got an epic night plan. Oh, it's going to be so good. So Ryan he's going to go for a swim. And then it's going to come over. We're going to do some burpee. Yeah. Then we're gonna we're gonna shower. Nice and clean. Then we're gonna go. Change the bed linens. Yes. I guess there's not that much too excited about actively was the big brother house. So you gotta get like really about burpee. So so him Dimo purpose. His ethnic night is that Ryan is going to go for a swim. While I do nothing. And then there is another another. He's by himself, and he's he's teaches talks into his microphone and he's just like, hey guides. If I could just do my die room a little bit earlier than usual. I would just I would appreciate that. So I would be so thankful for you guys. So that'd be that'd be. So so nice of you. And this is this is Joey by the way. Lawrence. The I I say, well, that's he didn't do. I'm really I feel like I feel like I'd be lost without showing in this. He's really providing me with a lot of entertainment the other person, of course, being Tom who also had quite a bit of silliness last night. He usually does. And I haven't mentioned too much of it so far because it's not very game relevant. But I feel like you need to know that this is happening basically after everyone goes to sleep Tom starts. Just doing like a the Tom green show. I guess in the big brother house. He's going over the props in the in the house saying talking about ice skates. And he's like these are dangerous. I'm gonna put these ones the way he's putting plates on his head. He's grabbing the cereal boxes and doing the cereal box Osprey. He's been put it's very funny because he's very scared of getting caught doing it. So he's just like. Scared of getting caught he doesn't want anyone to know how goofy. He is. He's a professional comedian. He's the problem is that he was making too many jokes on this celebrity apprentice. So he's very scared of coming off as like the the two jokey he wants to be like one of the normal people. He doesn't want anyone to realize how crazy is at one point. He. He had like he put he dressed himself in a whole costume of like, this is this is a character. I'm doing and it was up in the HOA trim. And he was like somebody could come in here at any moment. And then they're just going to kick me out right there. Right. Then. I guess. Him for taking the game. Seriously. He doesn't wanna seem like too much of a jokester. Nobody will vote for him in the end. We'll we'll say that. So that's basically what was going on yesterday. See I told you I told you nine hours of feeds down, but we still had we still had some stuff to talk about here. Was there anything else that you wanted to bring up leader? No, I think that about covers it I just want to note that I really loved the moment on the fiends when like at the exact same time that the four seven is talking. I'm sorry. The force of the Folsom. It's not a real. They're saying like, oh like, you know, if if the nomination stay the same. We're definitely gonna vote out. We're definitely gonna victim. They all agree on that. And then it cuts to Martelli DNA. Oh, you're definitely saying. And just really like those moments. That's like, oh, you definitely won't get boats from Ricky now lo low and like by the end of the day like it's potentially true. But at the same time there have eight music opposite conversations. And I was like what happens on the? Mean tame Mars was like convinced that the women had it out for her. But then also is still working with them is still friends with. It's it's very strange relationship is going to have to work with people that have it out for her. Otherwise, she's going to work with no one. She is truly a wild card. Yeah. It's I don't know what we do without her. If she if she left this week. So hopefully, she doesn't. But I also don't wanna lose Ryan quite yet. But Joey either I personally wouldn't mind losing Joey. Not that that's going to happen. But there was there was talk of maybe I don't know the way that these people's swing left and right. You never know. I I really I just want like Joey to suffer because it gives me pleasure. And he suffers every moment. He's in there. Watching live feeds is to joy other people's to set you signed up. He's trying to not give us entertainment. But by trying not to he's actually providing the most entertainment. All right. Thank you everyone for joining us. I'll of course, be live tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you and everything that happens today on the feeds there is an episode tonight that we will be recapping and tomorrow night is going to be the live addiction might also be alive veto competition. So. 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E264: Hobo Johnson & Tamar Braxton?

Who? Weekly

50:47 min | 1 year ago

E264: Hobo Johnson & Tamar Braxton?

"Welcome to who weekly the podcast realign, everything needs to celebrities. Who don't I'm Bobby finger. I'm Lindsey Weber and there's just one three more sleeps until Phoenix Phoenix Lido or as album. Okay. Come on. Well, I got a new song last night. I know it's on Spotify. Listen to it this morning. Kashmir. Did you like it? I thought it was fine. I don't like it as much as velvet rope. But I don't dislike it. Okay. I sort of I listened to it in bed through my phone speaker because I was just like lying there. And it was there. It was the first tweet that popped up on my feet. It was like read or retweeting someone saying like she surprises again with another track of Phoenix. And she was like, you're welcome fam- or something. We don't even have a definite plan. Wha how we're going to deal with Phoenix coming out a yeah. We need to figure that also the Rita ORA press. Blitz is more than I could ever imagine. I could imagine it. I imagine you couldn't do more. But she is doing more. Like I could. I was like I can't believe the Rita ORA is doing this much stuff. We will get to that later though. Because that's. It's a different sex on segment on second Lindsey. How was your weekend? Fine. Enter banter, banter, better better Venter. How has yours? It was. It was fine. I didn't see widows. I'm upset. I didn't think he does either. I didn't make plans to see what doesn't I feel so stupid. It would you see it was sold out like everywhere. That's amazing. It'll still be there when you see you. It'll still be out. Don't worry. I saw a lot of chatter. I wanted there were just like, yes. All the conversations online. And I wanted to join the conversation also didn't see Jonathan starring John Ansel Elgort Ansel Elgort. And I know you did it watch the Princess which starring Vanessa Hudgens Vanessa Hudgens watched together. I did not see Jonathan starring Ansel Elgort Ansel Elgort Sookie Waterhouse, Patricia Clarkson, but guess what we're going to watch today, and we're gonna put in a quick little segment of us talking about it later on. We haven't watched it yet now, and we have not watched the Princess which starring nessa Hudgens Vanessa Hudgens 'cause you're going to do that in preparation for our Christmas holiday extravaganza episode, which is Friday's episode. Did you see that there's already a new hunk fr? I'm the Princess which a new and everyone loves the hunk. Is it an the national guy is Nashville go it's not just as he's a barista in the movie. Oh, it's not that guy's the prince. It's other guy. There's a honky coffee guy. Okay. Well, I can't wait. I gotta watch this movie. I've been waiting a shall we start the episode? I think I mean that banner was just eliminating a great good. It was a great band. Here. We go away before before we go on. Did you miss camping again? Oh, I thought you were going to watch it. I miss camping flew my God. Wait. I plans to watch it. And I completely fucking forgot to watch camping every year you've missed now. I think this season fanatically missed. We'd I think I've missed six episodes of camping. Yeah. It's becoming like a little bit unlikely that you've missed this much camping. Oh my God. You should make an HBO series called my dumb ass friend. That's about me. But it's about me constantly missing camping over our entire friendship. Sound? I'd get picked up for sure. Four seasons of television about your one dumb ass friend who keeps missing friend who keeps talking about how great your Sundays end up being like you just have all these busy Sundays. Yes. That's exactly that's exactly what it's about. They wanted. No. Can live fame. I don't know why we haven't talked about him before. I put it at the top was because. Geotech said me and was like, please you have to talk about Hobo Johnson. It was like this deranged Tex which she was like, I don't understand who he is. I need to know who he is like I try to figure it out. And I can't figure it out high. No, why we haven't talked about him because you know, we're we're early on a lot of stuff, but we're definitely late on like music children music children. 'cause I'm always like, oh, this is a passing thing. I'm like Lausanne like he'll be gone in a week. And it's like, then he like eats hot Cheetos and ends up in the hospital. And I'm like, oh, I guess if the dog about him he's back. This guy isn't really doing as much as like what would make us talk about him. But I get that. He's like in the conversation. Also, his music if you're an adult, and you have an adult brain his music sounds like gobbledygook to adults like it's he's like come little children. What's like hocus pocus where they sing to the children and only the children can here or all the adults can year. No. They can let's see your misremembered hocus-pocus, the everyone. Can you read the children are just like hypnotized by it and moved into the witches damn? So that they can be like that's what I'm saying. Okay. So this adults can here. I understand that. But okay. So it's like a dog. For the analogy is actually almost bottle described. It is incorrect. I'm new it made sense. So like everyone can hear Jonathan I'll take the away into the land of enchantment and come little children of like music and that like children are in trance, and they're like, whoa. We love this like music and adult here at near like, what is this like this is insane. It's like emo-. It's Email rap. But it's also not there was what what do they call him? I can't there's train of thought wrapping train of thought wrapping, which is really hard styling also talking. It's talking technically worth train of thought, wrapping. This is a train of thought rap podcast. Terrible rap. It's terrible. No wonder we don't chart the reason he's sort of relevant today is because it was a piece in Volterra about him called. What was it called? Like, Hugh Johnson is about to be huge, something John. John out. Larry who wrote this who is also an adult, but knows about children's stuff. He the first time. I heard of Hobo Johnson was from an old co worker of mine who shared a friend of mine who shared this Hobo Johnson tiny desk concert. I saw Chad. And I was like those a few months ago in the middle of the summer, and I clicked it, and it was like, hey, have y'all seen this. And I clicked it, and when it started playing for I watched it sort of completely Kip Natasha and also confused and disturbed. It's like you can't stop watching it. But you know, that you figure it out. It's like what dot it was a parody. I thought it was. So I was like, oh is that Kyle guy in this? Like, where's you know? You know? When this one of the other winners, Sicily's strong in a pop up and be like all right guys like great. Thanks for performing at the tiny desk concept. That's that's Cecil impression. And then I was like wait is that real? And she was like, yeah. It's real as hell. And I I completely forgot about it. I couldn't I couldn't be bothered to learn about it. Because as you said, it was gobbledygook, and I needed to kick it out of my brain. Then suddenly people start talking about him again this week because he has not gone away. He has not gone away. So his name is Frank Lopez junior. His whole story is really short and to Saint every single thing written about him as the exact same. Business car. He got kicked out of his house because he got into a fight with his dad. So we kicked out of his house. He lived in his Corolla, he showered at the twenty four hour, fitness and he worked at a pizza place until he decided to quit and focus on music. He kind of has that that jewel beginning member. Whatever was like kind of you anyone ever knew Joel was like that she wants in her car, and she's from Alaska anyways continue so instead of a night without armor. He's a night without a melody, right? Is that good? No expelled, spelled still spelled K on G HD. No. But she spelled it and I'm sorry. I even took us to this direction you need to back. Anyway. So he makes us music. Let's let's play. Let's play part of it now because you can't. Yeah. I'm playing what's your name? How are you? How's your life? Oh, you've got a man are you in love so type. Just like strictly Justice friends or the type that ties together Moro's and. Disregard every time we pretty spent sincerely it's just my imagination tricking brush me off like the dirt on Jay Z's shoulder. So I fall the ground collect not yet ready to take over your heart, or at least your fair time. It's Mackel more like meets odd future meets like bright is to me me. It's like a pretty decent public school in the suburbs. Sure. But like it just reminds me the lyrics are like what I would listen to when I was like into dashboard confessional, or like kind of those jokes bands. But the style is Michael Moore like the way that he rhymes is kind of like his low is malleable more this. Yes, not necessarily Ryan's. But it is that it's more more did it. But he's also said boy, and he's Zad boy, and it's sort of Email. So then the yelling, and like the broS and the friends and the pals and the crew remind me of odd future future. Yeah. That's like which is actually kind of what Leary compares him to. But not like. Musically. He just more saying like, the buzz artists of like, he's like, you know, there's on future. Lana. Del Rey PC music. This is like the new buzz guy. Yes. So so it is it's like you were saying sort of like, oh, we're just going to ignore him. He's going to go into that. 'cause Brock Hampton is also something we've never talked about. But is very buzzy artist that I don't understand. But let's go back six years when Lana del Ray bursts onto the scene in everyone's immediately like people older than us or probably like who is this woman. She's a mess, but we were standing her. Let's six people who are six years younger than us are like, oh this guy fucking rules, use any huge. And I'd be like they know what they're talking about. Anyway, lindsey. This is my this is my bit that I told you plan. I was like Lindsey I did a bit was like at the bit was like when we were talking intro and you said sleep sleep. So you were like three more sleeps or something to Rita. Oh, no. No. No. No, no. Let's see this is my bet. Hold on. Let me let me load. It we loaded. This my that. It might be a villian I have to cut this. I hate Donald Trump. But I love you and loving is fun. And so are you and loving? You is even more fun because you're the most fun person I've ever met and fun is more fun than loneliness. Fuck loneliness, I hate loneliness. But do you know what I love you? And you know, what I like net flicks. And I like when we watched Netflix together, I like when movies make me cry. But I don't like crying when I'm sad just when I'm crying, and my laptop screen, my Acer Chromebook laptop screen with you. Watching Sabrina the new one the dark one not all of it. But most of it. I love you more than I love Kiernan Shipka. But here's my confession. Please don't leave. I don't love you more than I love Miranda. Otto is this maranda Otto. Route. I don't love you more than I love Miranda. Otto, she was so great on homeland. Let's watch that season. Again, my two loves view and Miranda Otto. That's my that's my Hobo Johnson route. I thought that was real. You really reading his lyrics and performing it. I was like, wow, you're bit. Is that you learned the song like that's incredible. And then you said Miranda Otto. Like so convinced that you wrote. Well, that's the thing about Hobo Johnson. It sounds like a joke, but it's fully not a joke. And I think that's the best way to describe to adult. That sounds like a joke. Right. Right. Sounds like Joe. I just love the you. Yeah. Like really nothing else to say nothing about him beat like that was something that he'd apple. I I I googled there was a Hobo Johnson type beat is the name of this video. So also, this kind of when you just performed that beautiful thing that is like slam poetry set to music very much though. I mean, whoa. Felt very not quite as thoughtful slam poetry. Randa outta would agree to disagree. He I I'm in Larry's corner. I do the more. I think about it. And the more I watch it like it is sort of. It's unique. It's unique. Whereas it is and it's strange, but you got that like he's got that like norm core look about him. And I think that the teens he's like jewel came to life. I agree. But I do feel like you have to as a person older than thirty. We both have to like fight all are like internal instincts to like fish push ourselves in the like, listen and appreciate something. Like this. Do you know what I mean? No. I know what you mean. And I. It's taken months for me to do that. It's like an understanding. It's like a complacency. They're like I am going to like put myself in a place where I can like maybe think that this is good or figure out. What is good? I know what you just wrote masterpiece. It's called Miranda. I got it. Let's move on. So this is this is sad. But it's funny. And it is who behavior in it's not it's sad of who hater. I mean. He's making it. He's trying to make it seem. So I feel like he's on me fine. So this this is the headline. Let's read the headline Frankie Muniz reveals what did he reveal home flooded while he was at funeral because his Catt turned on faucet. This isn't people on Sunday. Yes, I'm sad. Because of the funeral shirt like that is sad. But like Frankie Muniz being like my home flooded because my cat turned on my faucet. So he tweeted I arrived home from uncle spin role to find four of my five story Brownstone home under three feet of water. I guess that means four stories we're under three which sounds like it was the full up to the fourth floor as what I I thought. But that doesn't mean sounds like that am possible. Why you can't you can't get three feet of water on four other stories. You can only get three feet of water on the body. We don't need to fact check his story. Anyway, he says everything I own destroyed every wall piece of artwork personal photos furniture, all because my cat accidentally turned on a sink a few days ago, while we were gone also how long did he lied that cat alone? Frankie, get a cat sitter. I'm devastated and exhausted from tough week with the loss of my uncle skip forty five hours to and from France to walk in and find this disaster. I've cried more yesterday and today than my whole life combined. Forgive me for venting. I just need some see now I feel bad for saying. Except that it's sad. That is sad. It's sad is oh we tweeted this and immediately after we tweet it some hooligan like immediately. This just like didn't this happen. Too. Busy Phillips and the busy Philps response. Yes. It did. But it wasn't a funeral. Then I found that we in its. In August of two thousand seventeen busy tweeted, Mike, Catt turned on a faucet and flooded. My downstairs closet today, which proves either mercury's and retrograde or in Israel, or they are assholes, which is you know, I didn't know the cats could do this. But I didn't know that cats could flush the toilet because I've seen a lot of those videos. So I guess they can. You've seen a lot of those videos. I love when cats Pena toilet. You've never watched those videos when people train their cats toilet, I've considered training the, but it's a lotta work. And also like my cats, you're there, are you are you at era also. Rashed at your cat started just using it. Are you kidding? Did. You did you see the follow up? Tweet was I guess. I guess he moved to a hotel when he found this apartment flooded helmets flooded. And so he says just woke up to fire alarms and had to evacuate the hotel. We are staying in because of what happened to our house. This has been an eventful week. I feel for Frankie. I feel for the race that he has a girlfriend who is you know, his rock and all of this kind of keeping him. Okay, has recipe deals with all of this. What's the name page something? But, but there's no way to say this without being shady. So I can't even provide a disclaimer I want photos, you don't believe that. It's actually that. I don't believe it. I'm high if he can have fun to me you can demand photos, otherwise, Frankie, I think Frankie's doing okay. I think Frankie has the money, and I all those reruns all those reruns. Yeah, lottery, also he's not he's not like a messy former child star like he's just a guy who's around. He's not like, no. He doesn't have a narrative around his his story. That's like Frankie squanders his money. But anything Frankie probably we talked about him and any and he does a lot of charity work. Whatever. Great. I think Frankie's fine this sucks, but I just want to see photos. That's okay. That's fine. I'll you you can demand photos from friend of Mike cats turned on the faucet. And you know, my apartment got destroyed. I would sob. Yes. I would cry just like Frankie said he cried harder than he's ever cried. But I would also take photos which to either one to do that. Do you think winning winning? Oh when he would do it. Put us would be asleep. Post doesn't doesn't get rifle company water and just. Doesn't climb things put us like slides down? When he is constantly on top of everything Podesta's like, I'm old and tired on potent is so when he would definitely do it. Let's move on. Let's the holidays are coming up. Heavy bought all your gifts yet. We're not really like a gift giving family, but. I mean, well, very honest with you know, I haven't really bought any gets if you want to surprise someone as someone who's not really a gift giving family. Have you thought about the quip isn't that kind of like a rude gift to give someone? That's okay. No, okay. He was when you think of a perfect if you don't probably think about electric toothbrush. No. I did everyone will love it. Because also everyone loves the quip and everyone who comes to our apartments, respectively as always like only been making you get the quip quip, actually good. It's trip is good like a luxury item. Because it's like toothbrushes. We are diamond dozen. It's like, I get a rush anywhere. But the quip is something special. And sometimes you're like, maybe you're nervous a treat yourself. Maybe you're nervous to upgrade your system. 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They've had podcast guests at honestly, we need on our and I'm actually a little bit jealous. She's spoken to Kelly. Oxford lizotte, Jerry O'Connell, and Tom and Katie from my favorite show vendor. Pump Bruins Jerry O'Connell jail tunnel. Come on the show. So if you're trouble for doing is there, no celebrity relationship. You can't find a way to overnight allies. What about Christian YouTube bloggers? Oh my God. Crypto currency your true crime. Because somehow most of the advice, they give winds up getting back to topics like that also just like who weekly six one nine who them the biggest part of police advises that people can call in and get their questions answers. You can literally call into malls, ask her your questions and new episodes come out on Wednesdays. You can listen on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Please advise. Lindsay. What is the worst gift you've ever gotten? Oh my God. You're putting me on the disarmament putting on the spot. What's the worst forgotten? Maybe something when I was a kit. Oh, okay. Know what it is. This is so stupid, but you know, like for like Hanukkah, they're like eight days. Yeah. I'm aware. There's like that's like a lot of days to get a gift you're supposed to get a gift every single day. But like because we're going to be losers. Some of them are going to be losers. But they also go along with other gifts, so one here, my mom. That'd be really funny. If she got us like the batteries as a day. So you've got the batteries where you got the electron. No, I don't remember. And I think if she'll probably hear this and she'll correct call and correct me. But I'm pretty sure we got a gift without the batteries. And then we had to wait for the batteries or some it was like one day was just batteries. That's such a classic mom move. I learned because she was like I'm not getting you like eight presents like that's insane. So like she got like that good present. And then we got like batteries one day. But then it was just like fighting his Raleigh. We're both sitting there me and my brother opening up gift are just batteries. Why once the worst gift you've ever gotten? It was at a birthday party when I was like seven it was like my seventh or eighth eighth birthday party. And like, it's like, you know, your your parents invite your classmates over, but like, I didn't really have any friends, but they really gonna hat France. I had friends, but it's like you have like I had like two good friends. But then like everyone else was just a classmate. And so like someone brought me someone brought me a football. Maybe my tenth birthday. But I was like, oh, thank you. I never. It was literally is the opening it up. It's like a football shaped package, and you're like what this be praying. It's on it was a football. 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But like this is the right way to be hearing from her. I didn't know that stoop dog was doing a play. I'm thrilled to know. So basically, snoop Dogg and doing a play a stage play with autobiographical. This is snoop Dogg is doing a play called redemption of a dog. And then he has a whole cast of characters including snoop taymor. Braxton Omar Gooding, Eric Benet, Lil JJ, Donahue that is. La Toya, London. I do know who that is Vincent ward. Mike strong Dimitrios Kenny McKinney. I don't know that is anyways bunch of people K. So taymor is build second on this poster on the poster at the only people in the poster snoop and taymor damar. So I guess they were performing this play. It's been traveling. It's been traveling. I think this happened in this incident happened in DC, but it's been around the that's what I wanna know. It's been in Houston. It was in Houston before I've seen posters for like all around. But I think this one happened in DC. So the Daily Mail had exclusive quote, where's taymor? How taymor Braxton through a hissy fit and refused to return to stage in snoop Dogg's musical after the intermission. Because her food delivery didn't make it backstage. So then there's this whole story where taymor did the first half of the musical. And then she went backstage, and I guess her food was not delivered in time. So she refused to go back on stage for the second. Part. So they were straight of left. She just left. So they were placed with someone and everybody was like wears taymor. Like people are like wears taymor. So that the and then someone came out from the play and said, quote, please it's important that we pray for her. This is a very vulnerable time. So please just pray for her. She sorry. She couldn't be here for this curtain call. She said she did get a chance to be here for you. And she did the best she could. So like that's interesting because like that's all I kind of ally in hasn't yet. So it's sort of like what happened, and we know exactly what happened now because very very popular Instagram and just like general internet celebrity named Lonnie be provided us with a full rundown of what happened. What's great is the performing arts center. So it was like okay update. Here's a video saying from this person saying what actually happened, and you would think that the video would kind of get her out of the Bill like, oh, she went she left because of the food thing. But he. Confirms that she left because the food thing like he basically is like telling their side of the story him and damar like his friend. But he just proves that that is the truth. So this guy has aim is Lonnie b he lives in DC. He's like a DC internet personality. He's famous because in the store he talks about like he was he was talking to one of the people who is backstage at the from arts show. And the guy was like, oh, my girlfriend loves your videos, like my girlfriend, and I want you said think sure he's he's he's a very like he's sort of like a radio he's sort of like a radio DJ category of personality where he's very famous in the city that he's from. But like no one outside gasp that he took the down the videos the video down. We did you download it before. No luck. Did you download it before? But somebody definitely grabbed it. Oh, no. Well, I watched it like four times. So I can tell you what happened. Okay. So he records this eleven minute video. Fortunately, I only watched it once all the way through, but I did watch it all the way through. And he tells the story I he's like a he's an expert storyteller, of course, because he's a DJ and he tells us. A story. Basically taymor wanted him to come by their friends tailored to become I bring her what a sandwich like that. It was like a specific like it was a specific type of food, and you know, people say Lonnie Taymaz looking for a good curry out. Okay. You don't want that being shit bit. You want a good ghetto sale, which which I was thinking. Geez. So he picks it up. And he's like I have at the thing stupid. It's fine. He's like, I guess I can get there before you go on. But he he gets there right in time. They let him into backstage the guy at the at the back stage door recognizes him because of like he just knew he was. And so he was like, yeah. Come on come in. What are you doing? He's like, oh, I'm here to say taymor, my friend up her a sandwich, the guys like, of course, come in wait for her back here. And then like Snoop's bodyguard is there and he's like talking everyone and they're like. Yeah. Tamer Opio right out. We'll let you in a second. He's like ten minutes past fifteen minutes past twenty five minutes past all this time passes. He never goes backstage. And then suddenly, there's a ruckus. So similar get in the car. They text me. They moss assisted. Going on that here. What happened? She said she can't believe he didn't let you in. Whatever go wolf too much. Okay. Because you know, that's her job. And I wanted to news our job because the gay man couldn't get him and tamer has left or taymor is angry and taymor has left. He finds out that taymor left because it wasn't that as the Daily Mail reported that she did not get her sandwich. It was because they did not let him backstage, and he is her friend, and she was mad at the people at this venue for disrespecting her friends when I found the video it's I found it. But when we watched it only had like seven thousand I know. So that's why I'm so curious last night because I I screamed shot at the title of the deal, which is thank you, mar Braxton. I appreciate you. And I'm glad everything worked out. Sincerely, lonnie. Be it had seven thousand one hundred eighty one views last night. Okay. My favorite thing about this video though. He's like. He like got the call like the night of and she's like cut like are you in town? Like, I'm in town. Like, I wanna see you. And he's like, I'm a busy person. But like I had I had so many things to do this. But he's like, I agreed to give my go give my friend a sandwich. Let me until you what happened gross aims the phone day as I'm getting ready. I get a phone call from team on people hate me up Halonen, which you tame I want to see you. She's entail. I said, okay. When I got up things to do how long are you going to be? I said, okay. When back to squeeze it. And now, we'll it's such a good video. And he's like, I'm sorry. I can't describe like we'll put this in the newsletter for all of you that support our passionately all, but you can also I mean, maybe find it too. But he's sitting on a very comfy couch. Bright in front of these conic definitely signs from like Marshall's or like filings basement market are like you can do it like believe in yourself. I think once his entire wall is filled with like like family is everything like love love love live live happiness, like those types of signs, and then at the end he sips from a mug that just says mug of tea on it like game of three and she has this gigantic mug that says mug mug of tea, but he sips out of it through most of it. He had sought a punctuation sips like he's he's no amateur. He's being like actively sipping as the did you watch more. Did you watch more of his videos because he has his house is covered in those soggy. I sort of like stick his house is still hovered and signs. I love this. And some of them have his name on anyway. So my favorite thing about the story, though, is that you're you're watching it for eleven minutes. And you're like, okay. Like, what is what is the moral of the story? Why if he if taymor is his friend? Why is he telling this long story? That's like, honestly sort of shady toward searches and diet. I make her. Down because it when I was watching, and I was like this story just proves what the Daily Mail is reporting. So it just adds more. It adds more context to it. So it's sort of like, why is he he shading her his friend sort of? But then the end of the video he like introduces the moral of the story or like his what he his takeaway from the story. So after eleven minutes of explaining that, basically taymor ruined his evening because he had other plans taymor ruined has evening and then made international headlines. He says, but I thought about it, and I respect her I respect for that she jeopardize her placement in play because she felt like I was mistreated, and I respect her foot. She went the fuck goal for me because I did the same for her. She did all this out of friendship. This was all because of friendship, and I respect her. I respect her specter aspect. I was like, okay. I guess that's one way of interpreting it, but it still that is so. Insanely unprofessional to throw a fit. And so everyone thought that he was just some deliveryman, and she was offended that they thought that he was just some deliveryman and not her friend. And so he's like why didn't anyone asked me who I was. They just weren't expecting her to call some friend and make them bring her a sandwich. The moment started. I was like I can't turn this off Lonnie be you can fall on Instagram IM Lonnie. He's also on YouTube, and he does like live shows in DC. You can't get it. I gotta go moving on. We have really quick relationship. News to get through. Let's just like bullet points. One of them, Amanda Knox's. Engage. She them. Yeah. Yes. She's a she's a she's a true crime. Then. So I was always new husband this guy named Christopher Robinson. Who's just no one who's no one got married along to the soundtrack. Right, right. They got engaged while the soundtrack was playing. Yeah. And she was wearing Harry Potter pajamas. When it all happened. There's video of this. You can watch it. And in case, you're wondering, no Christopher Robin is not her Italian boyfriend. It's a completely different person. You said who cares this? I care so really quickly. Teddy Geiger who we've talked about. An Emily Hampshire are now engaged. She's Stevie bud in shits creek. And that's that's fun moving on the most important relationship. News of the week Haley Baldwin is now Haley Bieber on Instagram. He's she's Haley road Bieber as we talked about as in Rhode Island as in the island Haley road road, like the island imagine Haley on the phone with customer service. As in the island alien J. I L E Y road like the island and Bieber as Justin that's like when you stick up your finger when you're like finger, Bobby and you like hold up your finger. I say like on a hand you have to say like on a hand because otherwise people think you're saying singer. I don't understand why this was a story. Who cares if she accidentally followed a hilarious? What do you mean? Who cares this Haley Baldwin? Sorry Haley Bieber. I mean, I guess that's what we're doing. Now. This was right before this. What are you so shocked by you? Okay. Just hearing your name is I'm sorry. Haley Bieber it. What's funny about Haley Bieber? Is it sounds like, you know, when STAN accounts, call themselves the name of the last name of the person, they're staying where they're like Lindsey, Al Gore like my fan account, like yoga, whatever. Elgort is the worst. Okay. So basically Haley Baldwin was clearly looking at photos of Selena Gomez because she was looking at a Selena Gomez fan account and she accidentally followed it tell me that's not interesting and a little funny. I mean, I guess that's on interesting. The interesting thing is is that she decided to send a message. That said, hey, followed you by accident so far. So then she on she gracefully unfold the Selena Gomez found a fan account. I do I mean come on your follow your I mean, everyone's guilty of this. I just love thinking about Haley Bieber like looking at Instagram's of her of her now husband's ex girlfriend come on and getting Kaga getting caucus by the stands by all of Nader's, the goes Benita Healy these famous people should know by now do searching on the fence dot you. Do your searching on that. Should be was she thinking she should be skilled at that. Fine. Has honestly her because her fence to wouldn't matter because it would have been a name. That's like like a Livia three. I'm just looking at movie posters on my room thinking of names like Olivia something like a fake name. So let's move on. I know you don't I thought that was really fun. What else is happening? Okay. I love this story because another Fave Armie hammer. Armie hammer spoke some truths and got into deep shit because the earnest parmi hammer. Army? Army cambric didn't understand. Yes. That Twitter is run by the Ernest police. So even if you have a good point, you cannot make good points if they compete with smarmy army cannot compete. He are compete on a call on the red phone. You can't you can't compete with marm on Twitter smart will always win Armie hammer should know this by now, but does not like back army for speaking his truth. But you can't army. This is for the back channel. There was a really good living actually army needs to join a fucking slack. Exactly. So this is this is a tweet from who weekly STAN, and friend, Sarah Miller. Did you see this tweet now last night? Friends. Don't quote, call you on your shit friends make jokes behind your back like fucking adults. Thank you army. Hammer needs to understand this also army you can still able on their show. Hollywood. Boy, you can just like do this more gracefully. You know, anyways. I do respect this because he did say something that like he knew he like like it was. So obviously he was gonna get in trouble for. But is so true in real and something that we always talk about which is this performance of morning shifts of morning, which is it's a social media phenomenon. This did not exist before Facebook. It didn't it didn't exist before Zanu out some of the most ridiculous performance morning. I've ever seen in Maine name dropping is tale as old as time telling stories at a dinner party like win a famous person dies. It's like, oh will I met him once but sharing photos with the hopes of going viral is brand new army aide says say there is a difference. Yes. It is a slight difference in a thin line that you need to decide for yourself between like telling a story about somebody. And if if you met them or if you worked with them and. Having the story be about them. But you know, an experience you had with them, right? But just sharing a selfie of you in STAN Lee issue being like what a legend like miss you. Like that is what Armie hammer was saying in his tweet was physically. Let me read it before as we've paraphrased him. So and this is supposed to be sarcastic. I believe so touched by all the celebrities. Posting pictures of themselves with Stanley no better way to commemorate an absolute legend than putting up a picture of yourself. I love this tweet. I completely agree. Right. Also you army on here being like yes army like I finally stand like I stand. But the moment I read it. I was like Lee. Also, charm. You don't say that online. There are plenty of things that are true that you cannot say online so later he said people were responding to him and some people were like yes right on. But some people were like army. Oh, don't do it. And he wrote if your answer is post a selfie, then I think we'd cultural revamp across the board, which I don't love because it's a little holier than thou. But like he's right about the people that he mingles with on a daily basis, his fellow Hollywood elite are the ones like like Jeffrey dean Morgan like, so Jeff would elite member of the Hollywood elite Jeffrey deal none other than candy shop owner Jeffrey dean Morgan respond. Jeffrey dean, Morgan of the candy shop response and says look looks like you found a way to use others ways of morning and their memories to draw some attention to yourself you sound like a real ass hat. So he's flipping the script limited events. On army hammer and saying well now, it's about you, isn't it you piece of shit. Honestly, anytime celebrities anything it becomes about them. So it's not like quite his honestly, Geoffrey Geoffrey by tweeting you made it about yourself too. So so now it's about a Jeffrey new that Jeffrey knew that this was going to happen. So he's just as guilty as army, but that's not how Twitter works, right, blah, blah, blah, blah, the best thing about this. Is that army apologize? Right. So then army gets a phone call from his publicist forty five publicists, call Armie hammer in our like army pull out that notes up army army pull up the note that he they probably were like we're going to send you the notes app. We wrote it for you army. We share it. We airdropped you a notes up. Yes. I'm in the other room, we add up to, you know, please share this immediately. So then army tweets notes up screen giant while attempting to provide some unnecessary social commentary about the Kurt silviculture. I Brent disease in true as hat form. Thank you. Jeffrey dean Morgan, quote, which I think is more sarcastic than it is nice inadvertently. Offended. Many who are genuinely grieving the loss of a true icon. I want to apologize from the bottom of my heart, and we'll be working on my Twitter impulse control. God. Army? He's he's as Dan I stand to stand this. No, this does it hit me discussing that. I stand, but I stand why do you meet disgusting because he just seems like he just seems like a very like pathetically like woke like honky straight white, dude. And it's like God like he should have. He should have. He should have like alarm bells on him. But I'm just like, you know, what I'll put your plugs in because I'm here. I just love this this is he was right? So many of these people were like looking through their photo. I cloud photo roles for like a picture of them that they took on set with Stanley like forty five years ago. I'm just saying it's he's right adds to like a it's a meaningless tribute. You bet you bet Josh Gad was in this crowd. Just saying. Oh, got was like number one to post that post. Not selfie. Okay. Do we need with his these are just two updates? I liked to updates to him quickly. One was member. The Adam pally short. He's award shorties awards opus. He likes dragged me he dragged shorty awards at the short. He was kind of weird unexpected. But also like kind of like interesting in worth noting my favorite part was he I guess he did a vulture festival event in LA, and they talk a little bit about that. And this was like what was revealed, which I crack me up Patty revealed that singer Betty who who dragged him away from the mic. Mid rant was not actually sent by shorty awards producers, but rather a drunk observer who took it upon herself to intervene in parentheses. If you're wondering why better Betty who was at the shorty awards. She was presenting the in memoriam segment amazing. Pally remarked as they got off stage security guards quickly pulled the who pulled who away which is with a capital who which makes her look like she they're calling her who. But her name is Betty who don't forget away, and he was suddenly removed by the queer eye guys who briefly made him feel like a hero before a second security detailed shut up to escort Palley and his wife out of the building. I love it. So Betty who had? Guard. He got a scored at out of the building. I didn't realize he actually got kicked out after that makes. I mean, that's funny because that's like it was real like it was a real people people were kind of people thought that may have been a publicity stunt. What's this rebel Wilson thing? This is another update remember when rebel Wilson sued Bauer media in Australia because they were like when she wants saying that she was a different age horse. They were saying that she was saying that she was saying that she lied. She lied when she wanted me were like LOL she won. So she she the some she won four point seven million Australian dollars. But then that's some was reduced to six hundred Australian six hundred thousand Australian dollars on a meal, so they actually did not have to pay her that much money. Although I don't really know what is Austrian dollars. They more or less less. That's like, I think that's like fifty cents out route 'twas trillions anyways. She tweeted it's been a long journey in the Australian courts these past years, and I'm glad the matter is now a definite end. I have been determined to stand up to a bully, and I am proud of myself. For doing. So to win such a huge case and receive six hundred thousand dollars Australian in damages from Bala media so against rebel Wilson gets six hundred thousand dollars for lying about her age. But not but then like lying about her age. I forget the story. I've already forgotten it to honestly, rebel Wilson on is on everyone's shitless. So she's tweeting about this. We haven't talked about it. But like rebel Wilson tried to of ex con con America con the world into thinking she was the first like plus size of woman to ever saw her Manta comedy. And she completely erased like Queen Latifah that was like my favorite thing. Has anyone has has massive people ever yelled Queen Latifah at somebody louder than like this past week when rebel Wilson. Like forgot about being Latifah. We Latifah eventually. She was like well that doesn't count. It's like do you? Remember, the two thousands. How many when Queen Latifah was like the biggest female star? Yeah. You haven't you seems asked tolliday. God. I'm sorry. I'm sorry about I don't look. She I will not try to be diplomatic here, she sucks revel sin, son, Sasso, she's ninety. She's an enemy. She's an enemy and she's an enemy of the podcast. It's time to talk about Rita. Was she wary. Where was she? Seeing she posted why on of Graham, she's who clean. Aw. Now. The. What's Rita ORA up to who is this woman? So rita's album is out on Friday. I kind of don't even know what to do. It's been such a long time coming. I'm like anxious. I'm scared or herself her debut album in the United States. What are we gonna do arena? Like listen to like we to do. Well, I as I said earlier, it's like technically to more sleeps, but it's real three more. So it's really just two more sleep because we could listen to it at midnight without sleeping like you're not gonna we haven't. We have episode on Friday. But like we recorded on Thursdays. Like, we're not gonna the album for that. We're going to do our Christmas episode. We're gonna have to wait till Tuesday to talk about the Rita album. And then that time we have to figure out a plan. Well, that's actually, okay. Because we want to we want to be able to actually consider that. We don't want to do this impulsively. We wanted to do the stuff lead. This is the first time she's released an album since we started the podcast. That's huge. So we really do need to give this time. But it comes out in a few days. We should all listen to it. I've had as much as you ideas for what we should do with it. We should do something to drag it out. I have a few ideas. I think we should do a song a week like thirty songs on the Yankees. That's fine. We have a lot of time. A lot of what we focus on one song to be focused on the songs that have already been released. We focus on yourself. Every new gets a song. I love this. And it's just this headline read Orsha offer quirky sense of style in bejeweled chaps all caps chaps as she flashes. A glimpse of thi- during London night out. I've never seen chaps thought by cleavage like this it literally looks like cleavage rate. Let you zoom into her thighs, and it looks like to boobs it looks like to boobs when you zoom in it looks like you're taking up to never signed it. One of those like trick photos were like, somebody folds their arm. So it looks like they're armpit fat is like, but this one is like zooms on. It's like oh sill her FIS. Very alluring. It's still alluring. You know, I just. It's. Like, she's just I just like that. She's found new ways to give us cleavage. I've never seen these different is. I impressed by this. Also, she wore did you. Did you see this? Yes. She wore dramatic feathered dress at Evening Standard theatre awards. Who cares? I don't even know why she asked an Evening Standard award. Why was she there? Why did she wear dramatic feather dress? I don't know. But the source is F N. What is offense? Stand for footwear. News dot com. I've talked about her shoes. No. They didn't. They talked about a dramatic feathered dress. So I say this morning, but she went on radio one. And usually you perform a cover and read it not to be outdone. She performed like a mash up of Charlie poofs attention mixed with steles American boy. And let me tell you. I love a mash up, but this is not the one. Sorry. 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CBB2 | Wednesday Morning Live Feeds Update Feb 6

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CBB2 | Wednesday Morning Live Feeds Update Feb 6

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Kevin master of space and closets or just Kevin plus right now, save thirty percent on elfin installation and earn up to five hundred dollars credit through February tenth at the container store where space comes from who wears music coming from decided to be here because I haven't slept a wink and I'm going so young caffeine right now. That's always the best way to go for. All right. Yeah. We are here. To update you on everything that happened yesterday on the celebrity big brother to live feeds, and we've got a little bit of a packed update for you this morning. I think you know, for what should have been a fairly simple set of nominations things were a little crazy. A little a little stressed here. And we're a lot more complicated than they probably should have been. And then we're going to get lots of fallout as well. And honestly, I think there's a lot of funny stuff that happened yesterday. So funny. Credulous stuff a lot of stuff. Yes. So so here we go. Let's start the day as you know, Tom is the new HR wage, and he is going to start the day. And we still didn't really know what Tom was planning. We know that candy and Dino want Natalie out, but Tom has always had this thing about Ricky. So who knows what's going to happen? I we have low low and Ricky talking and they're making a plan about what to do how to approach Tom and Lolo really wants to approach him. And be like, hey, look, I just really want you to make amends for everything that you've done to us and maybe by making amends. You will not not target us. That's that's the correct way to approach this get Tom to make amends. Yes. Because he was the one who broke up everything that is the one who broke up their alliance the fund the team Fudd alliance. He did that he's the bad guy. He's to make amends. I will say that I understand a little bit where she's coming from. Because not that that's true because it's not however, he did sort of lay down in dial a little bit last week. And he was saying things like well. You know, I'm sorry. If I made you feel. That way and trying to do the human thing, you know, to try to have some semblance of a social game. And so he said things that were into the Senator of I'd like to make amends and bus. This is her idea of making amends. So why shouldn't he do it? Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Tom is going to talk with candy who is going to serve to be a much better. You know, duo member Kato, plus he's discussing his options here what his plan is. He wants to target Ricky. He just streaky stresses him out. He just really, and I think I really think the underlying thing here in part of the psychology behind Tom and everything that he does today is that if you remember Tom feels like Ricky and tame mar potentially tamer at the very least Ricky has manipulated the women into thinking that he's some kind of devil, misogynist, whatever as we'll get to later in the day. And so because he he's still reason he aligned with the women in the first place was not for any strategic benefit. He just liked them and respected them and wanted to to get them to the end. And so he still likes them and respects them, and he feels like Ricky who's the guy that called him? A prick is the reason they're being so cruel to him. He's somehow manipulating them into doing all of this stuff. He's definitely in for a rude awakening. Once he gets out of the house finds out that no it wasn't. I mean, Ricky is there, but he is in for rude awakening. If he ends up on the jury my God. I mean, this guy Ricky called him a brick, and you would think that that is the ultimate sin when it come on green. He has no full been idea. What they've been saying about him over here totally unprompted Ricky in the room for happiness shit. And he is still the the team evil bad guy as far as no low is concerned. Yes. And so he wants Ricky to go, and he feels like he wants to keep Lolo safe. He's like I had a good conversation with her yesterday the day before which as we talked about they did have kind of a good conversation. And Lolo did seem like she was a little bit. You know, taking what Tom was saying until she went and talked to Natalie who is like, you don't believe that do he's the devil. And then she was like, right. He is the devil. You're totally right. I never believed in what are you talking about? And so taught Thomas thinking, oh, I feel like I've got some kind of connection with Lolo. I wanna keep Lolo safe. And is like okay are sorry. I can't. He's like, okay. Yeah. I see what you're saying. I'm kind of on board with this. And he's like, so my idea is hear me out. I put Ricky and Lolo on the block because I want low to stay. I want Ricky to go and candies like. Hold on. What about Natalie, please? I feel like Natalie is the biggest threat, Tom. I don't know. I want Ricky to go, and I don't know if taymor will taymor Votto, Ricky over Natalie or would she voted Natalie? I dunno. I don't know. We'll but you'd probably wouldn't vote Lolo, right? So Ricky Lolo, and here's the thing with low low on the block, nobody will suspect that we're secretly working together because I just put her up, and it's like Tom cart before the horse here. This is so insane carts before the horse. I mean, I would tell you that I was one of the few people on Twitter who do not really have a problem with him putting Ricky up and making Ricky the target or at least his intended target. I thought you know, it's not what I would do. But I can see it in Ricky annoys the living you-know-what out of him. And he wants him gone. And there is some satisfaction to be taken in that. Even if it isn't the absolute optimal move on the game board. And so I wasn't against it. Then you have candy come in. This is the first conversation with candy, but psalms going to have and she's trying to talk to him. And he's not really hearing her, but you can tell like it was almost like she was planning seeds for later on where like she needed to have him like like digested a little bit. And then later on he would become a little bit more receptive to what she's saying into the point where he was actually enjoying what she was saying and was getting into the spirit of the game a little bit more. Like, why do I have to tell them my plans? Why do I tell them the truth? Candy is everything we need in this big brother season. Thank god. I hear you on the chat room you need. Ten minutes of me standing Andy. I can provide it. Yeah. I think part of the problem in this first conversation is that there was actually a bit of a misunderstanding. Where? The way that Tom speaks can be hard to follow sometimes because he's kind of all over the place. And so I can't be comes out of this conversation thinking. I think that Thomas planning on back during Ricky or he's trying to back door somebody talks about the veto being used. And so she doesn't really she doesn't really know how to counter it because he doesn't quite understand it, and she's going to relate that misunderstanding taymor. And it doesn't go anywhere. But I think that's why the why can't he was not able to really do much in this particular conversation. Mr. certainly true was listening because I wasn't sure what she thought. But I heard what I thought I heard, and then I watch her go to tame our and relate that I'm like, oh, well, she evidently thinks that he's going to try to back door Ricky when I heard what he said at the end, but I can see how she thinks that. But I don't think that's what he's intending to do at the present time. Yes. And to your point is, well, I actually do think that targeting Ricky is Tom's best move. But not for the reasons he thinks because basically you've got Natalie who will talk about Natalie is super anti candy Natalie potentially target candy before she targeted, Tom. Whereas Ricky would definitely target Tom before candy, which is why it's in candy's best interest to make sure Natalie leaves. Well, it's in Tom's best interest to make sure that Ricky leaves. But Tom doesn't want Ricky to leave because he thinks that Ricky is the only one that will target him. Tom wants Ricky to leave because he. He's annoyed by Ricky Ricki makes them feel uncomfortable entity thinks he can work with Lolo in all of this crazy nonsense and his way of going about it is all wrong and bad. So candy is eventually going to be able to convince him with correct logic that if you if you want this this is the way to go about it. But I do agree actually think they'd getting Ricky out is the better move for Tom despite the fact that his reasoning is really out there in bad. Yeah. By the way in the conversation, but he's going to have in a little bit with Ricky Ricky, and I think maybe you've been Natalie at some point during the day contend that. If Kato had won the veto a few nights ago, and they placed candy up on the block next time that they would have voted out candy. That sounds like a lie to me. But on the other hand, I was gone for about a week for about a day and a half last week so much like more. Maybe I missed a conversation in there that is a lie right Taryn. They would've voted out Tom next to candy. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah. That's bullshit coming from both. So another part of this conversation with candy is that Tom wants to he wants to make a deal with KMart. He's like, well, look I learned from my time as h last week I need to be making deals I need to be trying to get something out of this situation. So what I want to do is is get taymor. And be like, hey, I'm not putting you on the block. Will you not put me on the block if you win h next week? But he's like, but I don't want it to come off as threatening. So candy to help me here can use really taken aback by that. I mean, he I mean, he's a celebrity. He has an image. He knows this is out there. I mean CBS has done a pretty good job of actually protecting Natalie in Lolo in a little boot are from themselves by having aired much of this stuff of what they've been the really crude nasty stuff. They've been saying about, but he knows it because he's heard it from them. And so it's really plan on I actually think that having someone. In his corner. Like candy is really beneficial for him. So that he feels like I'm not the bad guy. I'm not the bad guy. I'm making a game move here. And these are all game related moves. And I feel much better about that. So yes, I'm with you on it. Yeah. He is 'cause 'cause candy is not only like, the smartest person in the house like the most reasonable person, but she also has a relationship with Tamar. So he feels like, hey, candy like, maybe you can help me with this. I just like if you could approach tame are with this idea that maybe she won't put me on the block if I don't put her on the block just like I don't want it to be threatening a fully positive make it as positive as possible. Like, we're making a deal like we're working together on not a threat not. Yeah. He's got a little bit of a problem though. Because came are is meanwhile, downstairs telling Lolo, Natalie shingle and kiss his ass just because his HOA Tom Tom told everybody he needs one on one. And so a team on proceeds to tell anybody who will listen that she isn't gonna go up there and talk to him if she doesn't need to talk to him. She ain't gonna kiss. But because he's the that's not what she's doing. It puts her time to go. It's time to go. That's what she said. Five minutes later. She's upstairs Tomic's deal with her says, hey, if I don't put you up you won't put me up. Okay, Tom that sounds good. To that parent teacher conference everyone every game for your parent teacher conference. Yeah. So she's not she's not really having that candied. We'll go to tomorrow after her conversation with Tom, but she's not able to really talk to her because taymor is pissed. I tell you. Sti- tell you where why is piss hold on. Let's let's get let's get to the bottom of this taymor is pissed because candy had the gall to talk to Tom. I'm closing my pearls Taryn. Oh, what is this says she has the goals to talk to Tom? I think actually, you know, what it is. I feel like taymor feels like an idiot for keeping candy. I feel like that's really where this conversation. It's coming from as much. Yeah. I know. But like the all the stuff that they told her about candy is coming true. Like, they tell us. She's like I heard you enlist of this. She's like, well, if you guys would have told me that she was going to go over there and play both sides of she was playing with Tom that I would have bought her. They told you what are you talking about your all your fool like I mean, does she not remember I loved him? Mar. Striped people crazy in the house listening to you because they're like, Honey we had this conversation. She's playing both sides, and she's not she's expendable to us. And the worst part about that is candy knows that she is expendable to the threesome slash four. Some those people in that bedroom, basically. Yeah. Like. I've seen a large amount of people who think that taymor is faking all of this that she's pretending to be mad. I really genuinely don't think. So I don't think so either any point to her having a one on one private conversation with candy where she berates her for doing this. If she's actually mad. I agree doom in the Chad one of the few times, I disagree with you this season doom in the chat saying it's an accurate grow by it is not an act KMart's. Not that good of an actress. Well, I take that back. She's a good actress because she did okay. With the power, even though they all kind of knew she had the power by the end of it. But nevertheless, she's not who she acted to Jesus gone. If if she's she's putting on an act of the she's going to be like candy. We're cool. Like why why would she actually yell at candy? Right. Oh god. Stop doing stop. Crazy. I think what's happening is that she she I think that tame are feels like candy is the person that's going to bring her to the end candy is the person like she doesn't have a person in the Natalie low low Ricky alliance she knows that they're all taking each other. She needs somebody who has hers and candy is hers. She has candy. And so she what she's mad about is. The fact that Natalie Lolo and Ricky keep telling her candy will win in the end. And she's like, no, no, why would she win in the end that doesn't make any sense? She wouldn't win in the end. She's mad because like that's her person to get to the end with. And then not only that. But they're also right about the fact that candy is playing the game and she's mad that candy is playing her own game. And not tame ours game. You're not supposed to do that. You're supposed to be mine as well. We could go I think she was correct. You. Wasn't playing the game. I mean, let's be real. It's only been forty eight hours since candy woke up and smell the coffee and all of Twitter has been standing her. I mean like the look at her a week ago. And I should I mean, she literally didn't care. I mean, I'm trying to remember the the first update where you really started to get the vibe that I'm kind of like an candy, and she's like, the smartest person in the house. I mean, I feel like it was maybe four updates ago. But it hasn't been that law because up until then she was basically furniture, and we know we don't care for for. Yeah. I felt so happy that yesterday yesterday morning in the update I I was like guys I'm all in. I'm a full candy. Stan I'm all about it. And then right after she like totally proves I was like, yes. Right in time. Right. Just hopped on that train right before it was about off. Available. We're full. So Natalie taymor is mad candy. You're supposed to be lying while you're making me, look bad, Natalie and organ, Oregon be so mad at me because you talk to Tom this is not. Okay. So candy does not get a chance to talk to you about the plans yet doubt? Yes. Grow by now taymor over the course of the day is going to continue to complain about candy to Natalie Lolo and Ricky and how she's talking to Tom. She can't believe terrible. And selfish candy is she's gonna DNA after this conversation complained to Dina about how terrible and selfish. But what a bad person candy is Dina knows about it. She's basically told everyone in the house except for Tom, Tom. And I love how she put it where the most the funniest thing. She said all day asides from saying that I'm not going to go talk to Tom and kisses. But when he's h h and five minutes later, did it is when she said I thought the candy was down for the cause. We're in church or something. Because as if Tom is this team evil, what the hell he's the devil. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently. So Tom is going to have the first of his one on ones. And this one was actually maybe my favorite in terms of humor value here. Okay. So you have to understand the way the Tom approaches. These one one on ones is very funny to begin with and the way that Tom approaches. Most conversations is pretty funny. I he in every conversations I look I just want. Can we agree that we will keep this confidential between the two of us, and we will not tell anyone, and they're like, of course, of course, we're going to keep it confidential. The first thing every single person does after they leave the room is that they tell everyone the conversation. But he makes sure multiple times McConnell, and we're going to keep this confidential. Right. Oh, yes. Absolutely. Another thing is that he operates on like a list. He's like, okay. So the first thing I want to tell you is this. But his lists are not well organized list list. They're just like totally half hazard. And so he starts with one thing. He's like, oh, I forgot though this is supposed to come before that part. So here's what should be going here. And it's just it's it's very it's very confusing. It's very difficult for people to. Follow. But the Ricky one in particular is my favorite because basically what happens is Ricky comes into the room. We're going to keep this confidential. Right. Totally right hundred percent. Okay. Okay. Ricky, I have a proposal for you. My proposal is you go on the block you try really hard to win the veto. If you win the veto. You take yourself off. What do you think? Ricky's like, okay. Okay. I like your proposal. I see I see what you're saying. I have I've a proposal of my own actually, my proposal is you don't put me on the block, and you put other people in the block, and like we work together. And Tom is like, oh, yeah. I like that proposal to that's a good proposal. Good good pros. I got kind of like my proposal better where I put you on the block. But why don't we think on this and get back to each other and of meeting? That's basically what it was. There was a little bit more Ricky essentially proposing like, hey, let's work together. If you work with the three of us than we'll win the competitions. We'll get to the final four everything will be great. It's it's not in our benefit to betray you. It's gonna work out. But really what it came down to two proposals. Where Tom was like, you should go on the block and Ricky's? Like what if I don't go on the block? And they both said what great proposals? They were great for like, basically. Michael. I can't I can hardly tell the difference there. It was great. I loved this conversation. Lolo mainly because of what happens after. Yes. And that was that was a great one Ricky comes away from this conversation thinking like it was a good conversation. We had some good proposals. I feel like mine was pretty strong. I don't know. I feel like you might choose mine. So in the meantime, candy is finally going to have a conversation with Tamar. Where's she explains? Everything to tame mar about like, you know. Look, I don't know Natalie low low in Ricky anything they did not save me. You saved me. She's like, no, no they safety. They voted to keep an eye on off. You saved me. They were not going to save me unless you saved me. And I do not oh them anything. I'm at the bottom of their totem pole. You like what you don't expect me to just go talk to Tom like, of course, I'm gonna talk to Tom and candy entail. Taymor is like. Yeah. Very reluctantly is like I cannot find fault with anything that you're seeing. It means so much flippant sense. She couldn't even find an illogical reasons. Disagree with it. He was like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Candy, of course is the Queen of self awareness. So she knows she's expendable to these people tame our realizes the candy knows she's expendable. So she really can't be mad. That candy is just talking with Tom in the Katie said was y'all have problems at Tom? I never had a disagreement with Tom. Why do I have to remember Tom just because y'all are mad? It's. Yeah. Yeah. And then she points out that they could've taken him out if they want to they chose not to heed them fair and square in the H O H com. That's on them. He being a parent square shake his hand. What what are you gonna do? I mean, like being taymor was like, okay. Yeah. Right. Right. Yes. So candy is finally going to get around to proposing Tom's deal with Tamar. So Tom wants to offer you a deal. He doesn't want you to think that he's threatening you. He just wants to let you know that if you keep him safe next week. He will keep you safe this week and oh hell, no. Keeping him safe. I gotta go after him. He's going to win this game. He's my target. She just to her credit. She does say that he he'll win the game. Because I think this here, but she said the people like him or he's well liked. He's so smart he'll win. So it was it was shading him in a positive way. Whereas, you know, you look at like Lolo and Natalie over there shading him in the worst negative way possible, you know. So at least she doesn't step in that too much. Yeah. I think she knows her audience here and thinks she also knows her audience when she's with Nashville. So you're right. So so she says no candy says, okay. Well, I think Tom's plan. Here's to target Ricky. She's talking about again, she currently thinks it's a backdoor plan to target. Ricky taymor is like that's so stupid ways. Everyone's what does he like the back door so much? Why is everyone all about the back door? She's she's she's you target Natalie. She's the bigger threat and did not do any the stupid nine thousand nine hundred five backdoor nonsense. Where did that come from? I don't know. I don't know what that reference trying to figure out that reference like back latrine back to the future future came in in nineteen eighty five. I think that was maybe. Yeah. I'm thinking I decided to include it because I was just like I found it. So funny, though, she let me machine with nineteen Eighty-four like the bullets, but I thought she might be going for but even even nineteen still not back door. But yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't know. It's a crazy plans. I don't know she she got it all wrong. So anyway, back up in the HOA trim. Tom is going to have his one on one conversation with Natalie. We're going to keep this confidential. Right. Oh, yes. Of course. Of course. Of course. He says to Natalie. Okay. I have a proposal for you. Not going to put you on the block. But if the veto is used I will have to put you on the block. But even if you do go on the block, you're not going to be voted out. You're not the target. Cool. So I assume you don't want me to use the veto if I went he's like. Yes. That that would be great. Yeah. Don't use the veto. If you want that'd be great. Okay. And then the other thing she said was. Oh, yeah. And thank you, Tom. So next week when I win h h I want your input on what I should do it just so condescending, especially when you know that she's lying through her teeth to this guy. Like, I mean, not not that Tom play. That's perfect. If I was him. I wouldn't have told her anything about a replacement nominee or that. I would have to put her up that hasn't happened yet. Why are you talking about? He always does this. He did it when during his h to where he wanted to back door Ricky and had he approached them before the veto was even decided so terrible on him for doing that. But it's not going to matter in the end because she's going to go on the block, Tom is a word vomit or he says that he feels and I'm gonna get to that a little bit when we talk when he talked with Lolo in particular. But I think it makes him come off less genuine that. He says everything he feels like because he doesn't. Seem like he's feeling it seems like he's listing off things about like. Oh, yeah. In feel this way. And it it's very strange, and there's a very good example with with Lolo that'll talk about, but he also make sure to tell Natalie. Hey, if I don't put you up will you not put me up next week the same deal he wants to offer taymor. And of course, we're good. So then tame comes up, and that's how many left things as I'm concerned. Yes. Go ahead. I I was gonna ask you a question. I wasn't there. A point later on today. We're Natalie could've talked to Tom. Yes. After his mind. It's switched and she could have switched back. We'll talk about it. Tom is going to talk to tame are now, and hey, we're going to keep everything confidential. Right. Oh, yes. Of course. And he says that he wants to offer her a deal of safety that if she keeps him safe next week. He will keep her safe this week zone and so forth. And she does. Fits fits a fair deal. That's fair. And then she, but she does kinda sidestep the question do issue, then goes off about like, well, you know, what about the thing that happened before is. And then she goes off into a thing. And then Thomas later, like if we make this deal, which I think that we are right? Like, then here's what's going to go. She never actually accepts the deal straight up. And she's out about this. I like it. I like it for a couple of reasons. Number one. She's not lying straight to his face. So he goes home and watch. It can't be mad about number two. It's good game play because you don't going to make this guy mad. He's h h she could change his nominations if he wants to the actually does later on and I feel like this. She has a case here on I'm not big on the whole. Well, there's a loophole in the plan kind of thing that I didn't agree to. But I really do think, but she did not give I think tubing's habit number one. She didn't give him what he wanted. But never to. He's so nervous talking to her about all threatening thing that he didn't want to say too much because. Of that. She was able to dodge effectively. Yes. And I think that this is how you play celebrity big brother or big brother two or three where you have to like you have to be able to at least be like, hey, I had to play the game. I knew you'd watch back later. I didn't wanna outright lies. So I had to maneuver my way around it. And so I do think we should give her some props here. And so that's she definitely gave him the impression that she was agreeing to the deal like he came away from that conversation thinking she accepted the deal. So it's not it's not a perfect method. And it could still definitely piss people off, especially if you fish, they feel like you're trying to use like the fine print to get out of a thing. So it's not exactly always going to work well for you. But I think the attempt is still maybe more effective. Could it could also be that somebody that just is open about the fact that they're lying might be more respectable as well. It's sometimes hard to tell. Yeah. And no offense. But she could actually still end up on the block this week. I mean, personally, if if the one of the trio to on the buck wins the veto and uses it, then her it's going to go up, and then she doesn't have to worry about this deal. So it may not even matter in the Tom also wants to like, hey, you know, if I keep saying will you vote the way that I want you to vote this week and she's like well. Yeah. Who do you want me to Tom you who you leading for leaning towards and he's not sure yet? And she's like. Not sure yet. Yeah. Well, I mean would would love would love if you knew who you were thinking of and then I can tell you everybody you again that was my Lolo later on today when she's like could you repeat the plan again, basically. So I can tell everybody what the plan is. It was really holding her tongue hair. She was very clearly annoyed. Tom trying to like you want me to promise to vote whoever you want. I don't even know who you want. So that's that's how their conversation went. Then Tom is going to talk with Lolo when you keep everything confidential. Right. Yes. Of course, of course. And Lolo before Tom can even really start Lola will is going to interrupt before hate. Well, hold on, Tom. I just feel like you need to make amends to me because she goes into the whole spiel that we know already. She's told it at times about. You know, he betrayed her. And they were going to stick to the alliance, but Tom is the devil, and he did all these things. And so she feels like Tom should make amends and not target them. And that's that's her spiel and Tom is like, okay. Okay. I have one proposal though, which is that I put you on the block. But you aren't the target you want the target and then. You know, I will make sure that you have the votes to stay in the next week. We can work together, and we can work with candy and Dinna, and nobody will expect that we're working together because I just put you on the block. And and it'd be great and oh, yeah. And just like, by the way, the reason that I want to keep you safe is because I like you, and I feel a connection to you. And that's what I mean about like. She does not feel that Tom likes her. That is a bullet point on his list that he forgot to get to this like, oh, by the way, the reason I'm doing this is because I feel this connection with you. And I think that we had a really good like, it's it's he's he word vomit everything he feels he does not show how he feels. And I think that's, you know, not to give any sort of excuse for the behavior of the people who are so anti Tom. But I think to anyone that doesn't trust tomor. That finds it difficult to trust, Tom. I think you can understand why. Because it's so hard to really read how he actually feels when he just of lists out, his feelings seems shifty doesn't seem genuine. I think he is genuine gentlemen person. Exactly. But they don't know that because they don't know Tom green, and they don't get to see all of his little quirks. I mean, maybe they're getting to know it, maybe they have an idea of it. But I think even at this point in such a compressed season. It's especially hard for someone like Cam who you really need to get to know their sense of humor. I have a friend of mine who has become one of my best friends live, and I will tell you that like the first week that I spent with this guy. I was like I always hanging out with this guy. Like like, I absolutely could stand him because I didn't understand your sense of humor. And invest words six six years later, and I'm like friends with them. So I understand where they're coming from in terms of not being able to read a guy, and thus not being able to trust him, a really get along with them because it doesn't seem genuine. Yes. Although I will say later in this conversation, if it does get it does get emotional does get vengeance here to my to my tear. So so Lola's like, I don't really wanna go on the block. Why don't you? Put candy and dean on the block. I feel like that'd be much better plan, and Tom is like, no, no, no. We want to work with them. If you stay if we keep you than we should work. It should be us four to the end and lows. Why would I want to do that? And it's funny again watching these two people kind of like slowly come to the replacement level understanding of how the game works where they're like, we're Lillard. But if we work with them, then they're going to beat us in the end because they don't have any blood on our hands, and they're so likeable. And so we can't beat them in the end and Thomas, but very bad at competitions. So if we take them to the end, it's more likely we get to the final two because the we can more easily beat them in competitions. And they're like, wow, man. What? Conundrum. It's like, yes. This is the basic shadow she for big, brother. Yeah. Exactly. That was the one thing that she was not lying shoot. Tom about in that they will win candy and Dina they are massive threats to win the game. And I don't even I really don't even think Tom would win against him. Although he would have a fighting chance certainly more of a chance than the other four have but DNA in candy are jury threats and they should be taken series. Yes. And so and Lolo say like everybody hates me, Tom like I've got into arguments with everyone like I was able to win in. This is a moment where I'm feeling like this is low being self aware to some extent self deprecating to some extent, and it turns into this sweet moment where Thomas no, listen like I would vote for you like I don't like to talk about money, but like their candy and Dina fair successful. There will off I know that you need this like you don't even have health insurance right now, or whatever it is. And like, I know that you need this to train for the Olympics because. That's your dream. I want to support that. I would definitely vote for you in the end. He would he would he is being honest when he says this to her and low low is like finding it very difficult to accept like Lolo and vulnerability are two things that do not go well together. And so are are you really like are you being let me right know, Tom, of course, little I would of course. And she's she's like, she starts crying like, she's she can't believe the kindness. That's being shown to her when she feels like everyone hates her. She obviously he has no reason to show her any kind is given how she's treated him. And but she put she's still receiving kindness from him. And that's a really powerful moment to be able to show somebody kindness who's been treating should just had a massive affect on her for the rest of the day. And it was just it was the beginning of them rebuilding their relationship. Yes. That's exactly what's happened. I'm totally mine. She went back to being the same old blow like people, this is this is crazy so bad this conversation. Okay. I don't wanna get ahead. So glad pitch finished. Sharon, so. Want to jump to the part where she starts relating this conversation too. We can get over the denial thing. So we can go straight to the conclusion of this or at least the semi conclusion of this. Lolo does leave and she's still kind of in tears, and so she goes, and she talks to Natalie and Ricky about it. And and she tells them what Tom told her about, you know, well, he's going to put me on the block, and I'm the pond. And so this is this is finally what makes it click in Natalie and Ricky's heads who both were under the assumption that they were fine this week. They did not get from Tom's conversation that they were all going to be in trouble. Oh, he's targeting us. One house is going to leave. Whoa. Not cool. We don't like that. And so they start there. Tom bashing. And and and lows like, yeah. I I can't believe he used my Olympic dreams to manipulate me. Like that. I just so such a terrible person. It was just laughable. They had this genuine conversation. And as I previously said it is hard trust, Tom because he's a word vomit or and he just and he doesn't have a lot of feeling. It's like oh Frazier do with feeling well, Tom green. Can't he doesn't know how to do with feeling? So he just says it, and then they have what was a moment that I thought had some affect on her. And I really did think that at least for a couple of hours she'll start to see Tom green as a person not as a devil or a dirty Greece slime ball or a bad comedian, which I think the worst thing that they called him all day long. Like may just went in and just limb own this guy and just turn him into a total caricature of a villain rather than who he is which is a pretty genuine guy. And that is the most terrible. And the part that by the way, I don't mean to jump over to Natalie real quick because we're talking about Lolo, but I gave Natalie an eight in the stock watch last week. I can tell you she's going to drop like a fricking rock. I mean, I really thought that Lolo had this locked in terms of being the final two jury goat. I don't feel that way anymore Natalie has caught up with earth. Like, I I came to believe how hard it is to catch up to someone as vicious as Lolo and get Natalie has done it. She has done it. Whereas she has just burning all over bridges in terms of a final vote. I mean, you can defend Natalie's game. I like Natalie I think she's positioned yourself relatively well. And you can depend on this a lot of people out there who like Natalie, and they're standing her, you cannot defend this. She knows that they're seeing it at home, and she still acts like this. You can say, maybe you. Maybe she did. But it's it is her responsibility not to say stuff like this. And then it just gratuitous stuff. They're just bashing each other. It's like I remember to listen to the update yesterday where you talked about how it is on a normal season. A really terrible team building exercise where like big fifteen where they all sat around and bashed Elissa bash bash. They just did it over and over, and we all ate it. But the reason they did is because they're trying to get an us versus them mentality going which helps keeps them alliance together. And but here there's no purpose. And so they're going to pay they're going to pay for it to me. And you didn't want to meet girls can win unless they're against the other. And I'm going to guess that at the end of this week one of them will be. Yeah. I especially after this conversation with Tom I was on twitch. And I was like, hey, I really am starting to feel like Lolo might be able to beat Natalie in the end like I feel like that's possible. And part of that is. I think that, you know, low low at the very least she recognizes that people hate her and she is up front about when she hates somebody else. There's just something a little bit more genuine about low viciousness than Natalie who is a lot more like behind your back and doesn't really see that people don't like her and. And it's just like like, you know, what I mean? Like, there's just something there where it's it's almost like with Lolo. It's like Lillo, she can barely help herself Natalie should probably know better. Right. Like, that's literally like it'll be like Josh from nineteen where like Lolo is Josh in the situation and she like they're giving her a little bit. Maybe give her like remember Josh win and winning and see anybody except for Paul. But, but you know, they they looked at his behavior, and they still voted for him lose five people did anyway because they were able to be like, well, let's just that's just sorta Josh. And Cody even said, you know, hey, at least he stabbed me in the front. The other ones stabbed me in the back. So Lola with somebody who wears her heart on her sleeve, and that might be able to win over Natalie. And I love Robin, Chad. He's like, so you're saying there's a chance. Yeah. Yeah. Staying. Here's the thing though. Then Natalie then Lola goes on and starts calling Tom the devil in. We don't mean in like just like calling him the Dell we mean, like, she's very religious, and is like making religious religious like allegory. I'm sorry. So the beginning of the day, they're getting ready to Tom wants to have one on ones. They decide to pray Lolo decides to pray to God himself for the power to go to Tom. And have her words have the effect that she wants her allies. I I really don't think that. Our savior is on board for that girl. I really Inc. That's that's a bad. Call. Yeah. It was like I'm thinking like after this conversation. Dolly Lolo, she might have a shot, and then she just goes. And it's I feel like I'm watching an extreme version of like when Caitlin in rockstar were competing to be a victim of their twenty where like Natalie and lo-lower just like constantly pushing forward back and forth. Like who can be worse who could lose the jury vote. I and it's just like like, oh Natalie takes the lead for a second all know Lolo pulls back in the lead. Oh, no lo-lose back in front. I wanna see it in a weird way. Like, I I'm kind of hoping Natalie wins the veto, and then Ricky, and Ben there's maybe they could still get to be end because I would like to see this where they're just too horrible. Final two contestants at the end. You got to vote for one of them dues truly shades of June. And Allison if that happens Alison was oh sorry. Especially because you did reference. Especially because those those jury members got to watch the tapes after they cast their phones. Yes. True, man. So anyway, Tom is going to talk with Dina and Tom tells Dina has planned, okay? I've talked to Lolo I wanna put Ricky and Lolo on the block Ricky's might target and dunes like Why's Ricky, you're targeting Natalie should be your technology is the bigger threat. Ricki Ricki is is more annoying. I need to get Ricky. I want to keep Lolo safe. I feel like I can work. We can work with that elite moving forward and do. What you think you can work with the worst part? Yeah. Did tom. This is your worst moment all day. Yeah. I think I've already flipped Lolo. I think she's already on our side. So we're good and Dina's just like, no. No, no, Dina's speaking straight of facts, Tom green. She is not on your side. She will betray you. She betrayed Jonathan before. I love how Dina always brings that up. She's always got that on the tip of her son, David trae, Jonathan so, you know, they're going to betray you. Yeah. They get I know that it's it's sort of become like a meement this point. But I genuinely feel like Tina is the second best player. I mean, she doesn't get into any fights with people. She I don't know. She can you wanna and you probably gonna have to win a comp there the in especially if they do it again like where it's up final four, and then they have a vinyl age competition. I mean, I she's any any land of horrible 's she's one of these horrible people. She doesn't do a whole lot. She doesn't game a lot. But she keeps herself. She's kind of people, and she has a better than average sense of strategy. Amongst the crew terrible people. Yeah. I know a lot a lot of people are doing doing the fun thing of like Dina ghee sling. But I've she's a lot more like she's a lot more Danielle. So maybe maybe dead. Danielle lo Han is more like it because she in this conversation. She's like Cam just keeping my mouth shut is opened off. Coatings you. Yes, she was she I have seen her lie where she doesn't. She. She goes to other people in doesn't tell them what she just talked about with somebody else. She keeps it to yourself. So she's playing the game, folks. I mean, she doesn't play necessarily as much as we want on the other hand, given how much other people are playing and how bad they're playing this probably a good idea. Yeah. And like she she understands where the pieces lie in the house, and she also she is a bit of like that sort of ditsy person. But she's also Gelson knows how to play that did see person. And so anytime that she talks to anybody. She's just like, oh, yeah. You're totally right. I'm totally going to do that until hearing the agreement with you. I'm totally like onboard. But she's not she's like, she actually does have her own agenda, and people are definitely is a bit ignorant of that. Or at least some people are ignorant of people are starting to catch onto it. They think that she actually might know what she's doing and that she is playing dumb a little bit. But I mean like she's number four or five in terms of anybody's target. It right now. So she's not going, and that's the thing. Even if you think that she might be threatening. And that's the great thing about being this archetype or this character on the show is that there's always a bigger target than you. And that's really going to be the case all the way into the I fully expecting it to be in the and they cut off one hundred percent agree. Yeah. So they he finishes the conversation with Dina she correctly points out. It's dumb. But he does not listen to her Natalie is going to talk with tame mar after she finds out that she is going to be that that they're being targeted the Natalie low low Ricky contest, just not she's be nominated yet, which is the fun part. Yes. She will you correctly is not being nominated yet. So. We're not doing it. Yes. So she is talking with taymor. And now, she's taymor blow and Rick you're going to go up on the block. But if the veto is used them screwed. So she's I need to make sure that they do not win the Mito. So I don't go on the block and get voted out. And she's super Pistole candy. She feels like this is all coming from candy. That candy is the reason taymor. You should never have kept candy. You know? And this is this is what I think taymor is so managed it's not it's not my fault. Tougher to be. Little nephew and niece. She's tired of being blamed for the other person. It's your problem you deal with it. That's what she should say. But instead she's like, I'm sorry. All right. No. And I mean, if you just told me. So she, but she feels like candy is the biggest threat and she wants to target candy next. And this is why I'm saying it's imperative for candy to get Natalie out, but has actually probably the last person that Tom should be getting out considering that she's probably the only one of the three of them that wouldn't potentially target him. I if h but's that's neither here nor there because we're not about Tom strategic moves we could never trust him to make a strategic move. We're all about candy now. So let's Natalie know that Tom tried to get her to promise him safety next week. And she's proudly like, I didn't agree. I sidestepped the question. And I was like, oh, yeah. He yeah. He he proposes anything to me. I promised him play the game girl. Right. Get onboard. Let's play. And taymor is just magic eye candy and Dina don't even deserve to still be here. I'm still mad three even here right now. Well, I mean, I this is the part in time more I think that she's playing it up a little bit. Like, I really don't think that she feels that way. I still think that in the back of our minds she thinks she could beat maybe either candy or Dino or maybe both of them. I think she's a little stubborn to believe what they're trying to tell her which is actually true. And I think she's just headed up to here in terms of being blamed so overall, I think that the one thing about her is tamer is that actually I do think that she's been playing a pretty good game of late. And and I ranted on rob show a couple nights ago. But I thought she made a terrible decision, and it was probably game-ending for her. Well, she got lucky because Tom is going to rectify mistake. And it's going to be a little bit more even now, and I really don't think she's going to be a she's not on anybody's hill is for the double addiction. So that's good for her. But. As long as she doesn't talk as much trash everybody. Everybody else. I think that that team are will be a viable vinyl to person, but not necessarily anybody's favorite. Yeah. I think I mean you right to to rant about the wage winning those terrible. Also, right. That Tom I think Tom winning really sort of saved her from that mistake. But I do feel like tame Mars. Biggest problem is still jury because I feel like tame Mark and only beat Natalie Ricky and Lolo that they all wanna take each other. So it's great the Tom one he's going to break them up a little bit. But she still needs to get in like she still needs to take one of them out another one of them out. So that there's one left in the that person can take her and she also needs to recognize that she should not be taking candy, which I think that she wants to do. I I it's it's still I think a tough road for her to get to the end and win. But that road has been opened I think Tom winning was crucial. And now she needs a little bit more. So help I think either by winning into but she if she wins. She's not going to take a shot at the Ricky and Lilla. But basically she she needs one of the zen angry called which is their new name. To to still be in the game at the final four. And then she's got a fifty percent chance that one of them wins in that they take her because they know that they can't take the candy Dina or Tom. And so they would take Tamar and taymor would probably beat them. That's her best option, but currently plans on targeting, Tom, I which wouldn't be the best thing wouldn't be listening. No. So the final seven right now. One of the three is almost certainly going to go home. And then they're going to be down to final six. So there there's two of the two of the people left in three an of no Liqi are still going to be here at final six, and they usually do or they did last season a final HOA chat final four. So she has to dick shins to hope that one of no Liqi goes home again at either final six or final five because in that case. They'll only be one left of no Liqi they'll be forced to take kmarts at the end. And then she could triumph as we all want her to. Yes. That's that's that's the that's the goal. She's not working toward that goal. But it might just happen for her. She's she is she's kind of in that position where like things do just kinda work out for him. But there's always one person on the season where things just kind of play out for them. I mean, kind of like she's kind of in that Josh spot. And so like, she got she got power. She got Tom to win this h h like don't count a Roach. She's shouldn't work for. But it's probably gonna maybe we'll see we'll see she needs. She needs one of them to one of them is going to go home this week one of no lucky. She needs a second one to go home either final six or final five if that happened. I think she's golden. Yeah. So we're going to get candy talking to Tom the final person to have their one on one with Tom, and Tom let's candy know about the plan low on the block, Ricky the target. That's my plan. And this whole time I've say I was watching on twitch. I've I've been screaming at Tom like, what are you talking about? You have not flipped Lolo. Your plan. Does not even make any sense. Because if you're trying to target Ricky and keep Lolo safe, then you're putting Lolo on the block makes no sense because if Natalie wins the the veto she can use it on Ricky. And then you're forced to evict Lolo. And nobody said anything about this until finally candy gets in there. And she's like, Tom. This is a terrible idea. If Natalie wins veto, she can use it on Ricky. And then they'll both be safe both of your targets. And then you'll have to vote Lolo and Tom is like, oh, I didn't think about that. Oh, gosh. Natalie wouldn't do that. She's like. Yes. She would. She would there's a lot. There's a lot of like candy no-nonsense looks in this conversation like she was through with Tom seriously. Like, I mean like, you might as well say at this point. But candy is the Chad has been saying before too. The candy is the I mean, she Abby go towards the end of this conversation, and he's basically telling her I wish I would have just talked to you before even though they did talk. And you you make all the sense in the world. And what should I have for breakfast tomorrow? You know, he'd say that. But I mean, that's basically where it goes at the end. And he does what she suggests. And the best part is candies. Like euro them, Jack, you don't need to tell them anything. And Tommy Tom does. There is a moment in time where he goes to talk to now this is always talking about for where he was going to have one or they could have had one more conversation with Tom and now blows them off doesn't even take trinity to talk with. This is what I saw you ranting on Twitter. Well, yeah, I mean, so this conversation honestly might be my favorite conversation of the season. So far just because it's like the closest thing we've come to big brother strategy where it's like it's just one person trying to convince another person to do a thing that's in their own best interests game. There was nothing here whatsoever. It was just game and Thomas diff- difficult person to convince because he's all in his head about all these different ideas. And he's so set on Ricky, and so you have to watch the gears turn in candies head as she tries different things. And she has to find the pressure points. Where Tom is like, oh, I didn't think of that. That makes sense to me. I can use that works in my own personal narrative of what I'm doing. And then she can press on that. And it's just it's great to watch. And I liked the fact that like finally we have somebody in the house, that's actually doing something strategic. I'm like, I'm giddy about it. I'm hoping it spreads to other people. Let's not let's not get our hopes up too high. All right. We'll stick with candy. So not only candy points out that, you know, leave not flipped Lolo. She she's he's like, I think I flip blow. I think we're I think this is gonna work and candies. Literally. Like, you see they're all waiting outside the HOA dream right now like they can see on the monitor. They're all together waiting outside the HOA trim. They've talked. They probably talked to the second. They left the room, but they promised confidentiality. No, no, no. It's like will Ford. You not remember this finally starts to come back to him a little bit where he's like. Well, you know, they kind of play me before in candies like be happened really irritating you lately. So why are you going to tell them Jack? Yeah. No. He's like their probably telling each other right now right now on that screen. No, it was actually like an hour ago. Right. So Tom, finally and reluctantly agrees candy, right? I still want Rikio, but it should be Ricky and Natalie and candies like, oh, I still feel like it should be Natalie. I don't want to ruin this right now. So let's put a pin in that for now. I feel like Natalie still should be the person. He's like I can kind of see that. Okay. Maybe but Natalie and Ricky are the two nominations now, he just needs to tell Lolo and Natalie that he's changed his mind. He needs to go tell low like, a look, I'm not even going to put you on the block, and he needs to tell Natalie. I'm sorry. I've changed my mind, and we'll just don't do it right away. Because then they'll know I put you up to it. And they're gonna blame me very various studio. Yes. I love this that she sofa aware enough to know. And I think it's probably just the fact that she's annoyed but big us keep like hating on her. But she doesn't want any more hate. So she's like can you at least like wait a little bit. So that I'm not blamed because the hate me, and I'm really really over it. So just let it be your. Idea. Yes. Sometimes I I'll wait a little bit another room. Please. Another thing that that came out in this conversation is that she was explaining that. She no longer feels like she needs to tell people the truth all the time. She learned that because in week one what happened was and this was the first time I heard of it finally figured out. Why can't he went on the block? Apparently the reason candy was nominated by Ryan week one. Is that Brian and Jonathan we're like, hey, are you gonna vote for Jonathan to stay? And she was like, nah, I'm gonna vote amount. That's why she went on the block. We find know that I'm glad she brought this up because otherwise we we would just be like something we totally forgot about like we we didn't understand why she went on the block. There was a little bit of foreshadowing in the episode about it like, we're Sheba. I think at one point I said, she was going to talk herself on the block. But then she didn't up time. And so my head I'm like, well, maybe that came back to bite her interests. And that's why she ended up on the block when he hasn't even replacement after mooch less. But no, this is the reason why. Yes, and. I think it just goes to show that like people learn the game. And I think candy is clearly she's very intelligent. She came into this game. She wasn't doing super great. It's at the start. She was making some big mistakes. She was not playing all whole lot. But over the course of the game through watching and listening and paying attention. And you know, now that she has a little bit of power like she's starting to play the game. She's learned and she's doing well. And and you know, that's that's all we can really ask for those people out there. I mean remember this convinced season on a regular season where we see other players who sort of learn the game. I mean, Paul in eighteen would be like week four episode. Like, I think he would have just gotten off a block row second time, and is still a really pretty terrible player benny's in an alliance with Polly Kelly fury, and they're cutting each other's hair the same, and yeah, I mean like it's the beginning of what is the semblance of a good player. But it's week four. And but here again it's week four. I know it's three, but they were in the house for a while before the beats game on and here, you of it somebody who is learning the game, and it's actually playing moderately. Well. Yeah. So Ricky Natalie and Lola when they're outside the HOA trim there, of course, still mad still talking about how Thomas Gerson Ricky says that he'll fall on his sword for the women that he is that he is all he he wants to show the world. He's not a competitor anymore. He is he is a healer. Yes. He wants to prop other people up allow them to succeed. That's what he's all about. He's he's a coach he's just like donkeys. And so. He he's like that. That's what we need to do. They all agree. And this is really really bad of them. They all agree that if any of them win, they all win, which is basically just saying take the most hated person and apply that to all of us because if the jury votes for any of us to win you can that person that most hated person is going to like I wanted to. Like, I mean like I could see maybe I'm trying to take somebody. I don't know. Like maybe Ryan voting for low low at the end because of the Olympia in connection possibility he might look pass everything and vote for her. But then, you know, you if he doesn't really like say Natalie analogy is in the final two, you know, he's like, oh, go number one vote because I don't want or maybe lows in the finals, do he doesn't want them all to win because now Natalie is going to act like she won Ricky's going to act like he won, you know, it's gonna like that. So. Oh, jillian. It would not have won because of his association with Jillian you you. Don't want to really like double down on that. And be like, well if that person wins I win two guys. Now, you right where they can see everything. Unbound BB one they just assumed because they were together together. Not and a Natalie Jillian Chilean they were together. And so they were like, oh, we don't want. You know, we if one of them wins they're both gonna act like they want, and we don't really want that they both have the stench of each other on this one you kind of assume that but now they're saying to each other in the room and everybody is at home able to watch. Unlike what Beebe was by the way, I still can't believe that season started with that Topaz vote there at the end I mean by the whole series started with that finale. Really set the stage. Wow. I also I saw I saw your tweet about a pointing out a Jonathan Bennett has actually he's been liking tweets, but he actually responded to somebody who said please don't let the women win. Hey, yeah. And he's like girl, duh. Yeah. I mean like this is a new phenomenon. I don't know that this went on. Maybe I'm missed the train. Previous loves are pretty aloof. Yeah. I don't remember anybody directly like campaigning and getting an answer from a previous so web on the show. But he let him have it in his way. You know, he said girl dumb as in like, he's not gonna vote for them. And he would vote for Dina if she was there at the end. So, you know, it's interesting that you can like there's it's what do they call it on my Twitter. Like, massaging the jury that they're trying to get the basically the fans their trying to get the jury to do what they want, and I think that's probably going to work. You never know. Celebrities are watching the feeds like we are on. I mean, I think that that's generally how how it works. So it's interesting again, this is this is celebrity big, brother. This is sort of how the game is played in. And we're getting to see a lot more insight into the germ. Maybe maybe not like a lot more. But my more insight into how the jury's thinking. And we've been predicting for a long time that these women are going to have trouble getting votes in. We're definitely seeing that play out with some of these Twitter interactions. So. We also get again Ricky is going to tell them. Hey, once Tom has gone. We'll be unstoppable Ricky going after Tom Natalie's still kind of like, oh, but candy. Tom is gonna come up later right before the nominations, and it's just Ricky Natalie left up there. And he's like, hey, do you guys want to talk anymore, and they're like you look stressed? He look stress, Tom. He's kinda stressed. But I'm just letting you know, I'm still undecided. I'm still up in the air. He had just been in the diary room for a half hour after he was very tenuously flipped by candy. I think there's a very real chance that he was kind of like us. Should I go through with this? Should I not go through with this? And he was like should do. You wanna talk. Now, we're good. Well, I think what they were thinking once they heard that. He was vacillating is is he going to put them up or not or maybe he'll put up like, you know, candy in deana or somebody whore. And the thing I thought the other the other thing that happened when we're talking about it's not that big of a deal. But that Ricky wanted taymor on the block jamar and genome like I'm sure team are would like to hear that did not tell him are whether it's opening I'm hoping it eventually cut out confidentiality. Oh, yeah. I know. Right. Yeah. So the feeds are finally going to go down for the nominations, and Ricky and Natalie are nominated Natalie did not have a warning that she was going on the block and the feeds come back, Natalie low and tame are pissed in the downstairs bedroom. I posted a clip of this because it was so funny the visual itself, they're just like can't believe, Tom. How are we going to? How are we going to handle this? Meanwhile, you got Tom. On the other side and the H wage doing the just the goofiest the do fiesty dances. Boy, white boy dance. Yeah. Like, this is just the visual. Here is fantastic. It was great. And it was the same time like there was no fancy editing. It was just it was literally happening at the same time, by the way, just ten generally related. I tweeted out a couple of days ago. A reach weeded somebody who put the Kato Vic Shen audio up against the Kato stepping down from the witness stand in the OJ Simpson trial, and it was freaking fabulous with earth dog on Twitter like one of the best at its I've ever seen. Did you have you seen this Terron? I not seen it. Now. It's literally like, you know, looks at him in basically, it was like you can sit down in front of sand and he walks out, and he has to open the little door as he's walking out of the aisle. And it's this the audio is all like, Julie Chen's voice coming out of Ito's mouth. And then as he like opens the little swinging door that's in the aisle. He's like do. I open this. You can hear them like clapping as he's like weaving the courtroom, and then like he he comes out of the courtroom. And it's joy Chattan the stage of the studio. It's it's it's freaking. That's great. I'll reach weeded again. It was really good stuff. So not only Lolo and taymor. They're discussing they need Dina's vote in order to get to get Ricky out over Natalie Natalie is saying that she if she needs to win the veto. But then she's like, but if I use the veto you'll go up so I won't use the veto. We just need another vote. We need to get DNA DNA is the key. We need deny. Then I can stay. And so that's that's what they're feeling taymor is going to leave. Eventually it's going to be Natalie and Lolo and. And that is where we really need is for you to win the veto Lolo, and you can use it on me. And then taymor will go on the block when we vote tomorrow. They are skimming Tae mar are scanning her because they like their other. She's saying, well, you know, if you win the veto, you're not gonna use it. Right. I wouldn't use it. I wouldn't use it. Because then you'd go up she asks Natalie or sorry, Lois. Yeah. Slow are would you use the veto if you want it, and she's like, probably not? Yeah. Definitely leading yourself out because she knows that if she wins the she's going to use it and taymor is going to be boost. And just so we know if it goes on the block, like there's no way, I still don't think there's any anybody. The only thing I want to tell you guys is that tame our once Natalie gun, if it's Natalie and Ricky on the block, they don't even need Tom tiebreaker vote, they can send Natalie home because are wants to as far as I saw my conversation with candy. She wants to I'm assuming she telling her the truth. She's once Natalie over Ricky, so I'm not sure if that's going to hold to be in here. But I think it's probably pretty likely. Yeah. There's still a lot left up in the air. Because t- Mars said she wanted to league on when she was with candy. She says all sorts of diff. Things to to design angry cult. So it's it's hard to it's hard to today. It's hard to know where she'll land there and on top of that you've got the veto situation. And again, I feel personally like palms best case is if Lolo wins the veto uses Natalie taymor goes up, and then we'd have that to to split that I talked about taymor realizes that these women are are against her. They're trying to keep Ricky. He can vote to save her. He gets Ricky out. He leaves the two women in the house, and it's kind of like those two women versus the other two women, and he's maybe a little bit out of the spotlight just slightly. Andy got Ricky the person wants him at the most. And I guarantee you Natalie will will be like can't buy candy candies a bigger threat than Tom potentially. Because Natalie doesn't think Tom can win in the end. So I think that's his best case. But of course, he's not going to be trying to get that Tappin lot about happening. A lot of people just dumb looking into a position. It goes the way we wanted to go. It won't be by any of their design. It would just be by happenstance. Yes. So we also we're going to get low low and Natalie trying to flip Dina they have a lengthy conversation with her about like, hey. Tom is. Are the insults here? We got. Devil. He's a greasy dirt bag. I can't remember who who came with who. He's an old, man. Yeah. I'll show in his pig. There's. That's an oldie, but goodies. All of these terrible things. And and he used her dreams against her to manipulate hurry such a bad person. Yes. And by the way, the room apparently told Natalie even Marie and Lolo not to say Mel chauvinist pig anymore. They're like, it's so funny. They are on telling you guys the truth here. If you guys do not watch the feeds, you do not know how it is. They are trying to protect them from themselves. Every time they started looking like an ass. They cut the feeds can I every time. They start going off in point. About ten minutes ago, or so Tom and Lolo in the morning Lola's, I'm frustrated with you Tom says, let's talk. She can go on the block, y'all. Remember that traded with him. And he decided not to put her on the bottle says I'm just so cut. Away. We don't want this on the feeds I think I think we have like a seven second delay now with low low in Natalie. It's like the Oscars. Like beep, no p. This is like, I'm sure Robert remember this. There was an old show called blackout game show where you try to get the word, and you'd have a blackout thing. And you could like press the plunger to black out the audio the contestant, and then they would have to guess the puzzle based on like what information they heard and not in whatever you blacked out. They didn't get to hear. That's what they need with low low. They decided that's what I feel like it's going on. Whether it's like, there's somebody in the control room just. Yes. So they're saying they're saying listed Dina's DNA to turn on Tom and realize how terrible person he is Dina, of course, being Dina as we talked about. It was like. Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, totally. Wow. That's that's really bad. If you only conversation, you would think the Dina has turned. She's lying through her teenage so good that she convinces the audience every day that she's flipped when she never has never played. I'm on. I'm not going to like the boy who cried wolf like I'm not buying her anymore. She's she's not flip. And she does not like these girls. She wants one of them out. Yes. So she's she's all about it. She's she's going to later go to candy and be like, hey, look, this is what they all told me to flip. Maybe trae Jonathan. What's driving this? I swear she does say that she is concerned about Tom. She feels like he could win this game little bit concerned there, which confirms to me the Dino would take candy. I think that I think that Tom would probably take candy. I'm really starting to like candies chances here. So. I want to say. Oh, yeah. I'm worried about it on your own. What can say I'm worried that Tom may become like the James Maslo where like the whole house unites to get him out because they just kind of have to they all worry that he could win close. Now, he doesn't think you can win at the end. So there's that. But I think that even even his allies at this point are recognizing like Dina said it, and I feel like Kenny was agreeing with her to an extent that Tom we probably need to get him out. Eventually is it's not somebody that they really want to go to the end whip. I don't feel like yeah. I mean, I think I think candy should go to the end of them. I think he would take her. But I think he'd beat him. So I think candy should want Tom in as long as possible. But Stephen can be anybody except for Dina, then we're not even sure about that one. I mean, I here's the thing Dina has Jonathan because of their priority ship. So I think with Jonathan would probably also come Joey and Ryan, and he Kato would probably go Dina. We can campaign for her. It's really if you can see in, and I feel like having the first black female winner would be a big deal for big brother in the in the fans are really behind and they would remind Joey and Ryan maybe Jonathan to Cato, whoever the hell that this is a possibility. And when the be great finally have happened. I'd like to think I'd like to think the the women in Ricky would go candy. Yeah. They don't like Dina, very they also don't like Dina. So I think it'd be a very close vote. I think it could be like five four going either way. So. What show for which is the case? It happens. So. So Tom is also going to talk with candy about how he just wants to win all the competition. This one. And he thinks he can he these convinced at this point that he was like I thought maybe half maybe half when I was coming into the season. And now he's convinced he can he can just compound from here. And this is again like this happens all the time. And it's very interesting to watch Tom verbalize it because Tom is saying, you know, now that I won this competition. I feel like I could maybe win all of them. Maybe eighty percent, no probably all of them. And it's like he's voicing it. Like, he's explaining his feelings. Whereas usually when this thing occurs somebody wins a competition, and they feel like we need to the next one. They just talk about like, we're gonna win them all, but they don't like describe their feelings. They just feel this way because there's your sense of confidence that you get when you win a competition that you feel like I can just win them. All. Tom just describes the differently. It's very funny. So Dina and candy like I said, they were talking about Natalie Lolo, they're talking about Tom. They also talking about how they don't really want to win the veto. No point. Don't really feel like it's necessary. Smart again, don't show your cards to anybody. You don't want people mad at you for not using the veto if you could have saved them. There's no point to to win into beat us in either Dina nor candy are we're going to be gunning for that veto. Yes. Except dina. Then did tell Tom that candy that Tom was like, hey, candy. You're gonna win the meat. Yeah. Don't worry. I was just telling it. Dino, also, let's candy. No like, hey, watch out for taymor. She was super pissed you this morning. Because tamer went on that whole rant about her to deny in particular. She got the brunt of it there. They also get another conversation with Natalie in taymor where they're complaining about candy even more tamers, Saul she's so selfish such a bad person. I'm I'm embarrassed for her zone and so forth. And Tom when he's talking to Dina also mentions. He still wants Ricky out he has not been flipped to wanting Natalie out. So basically what we're looking at here. We're gonna play the veto today. I imagined and if Lolo wins the veto she's going to take Natalie down tamer it's going to go up Ricky's going to go. If Ricky wins the veto, we're not entirely sure, there's definitely a possibility that he doesn't use it or that he uses it on Natalie. But if he takes himself off and Lolo will go up Natalie will leave if nobody wins the meet, oh that's gonna use it. Then both Ricky and Natalie will stay on the block. Tom wants Ricky gone candy ones. Natalie gone, candy, theoretically might have the votes to get Natalie to go without Tom's approval. We'll she'd do it without Tom's approval is one question that she had the votes is another question if tamer is actually going to vote Natalie because tame are like I said was talking to Natalie and Lolo about how she would definitely would vote to keep Natalie. So there's a lot of different stuff. There's a lot of different things. Floating around in the air right now, Ricky or Natalie are almost definitely going to be leaving very little chance that anybody besides one of the two of them leaves. But I could not tell you who is who it's going to be at this point. I'm gonna say not only, and that's not good for Tom because we can't have nice things. I mean, if candy candy continues doing as well as she's doing she will make sure net like it's it's vital for candy that now that Natalie leaves this week. That's it's it's huge for her. If Natalie doesn't leave this week her chances are looking a lot worse. So if if if she recognizes that and she continues to be as effective as she was yesterday, then I expect we'll see Natalie leave, but I really wanted the prospect of Ricky Natalie stain on the block, and I want Ricky to be like begging to go home, and then not send him home. And I because I feel like that we could be based on how you was acting yesterday and talking about falling on his sword. He doesn't want to be seen as a competitor. He wants to be here. Nothing. I want to see it. But I feel like we are clue chew a quits. It felt very quitter is to me like, you know, I don't want you girls to go home because to me because if you win I feel like I win. So I like I don't want. I don't want to see that happen. But on the other hand, I'm kind of curious to see what would happen if he's on the block, and he's begging to go home, and they don't want to send him home. My my read on Ricky is that he he has always had this weird thing with Tom. They've both had it with each other. They don't really like each other. They think it's kind of like a little bit of like this puffing. Your chest kind of alpha thing where it's like like hidden. No, I'm the better, man. And so I think right now Ricky feels like he's been checkmated by Tom Tom is going to get him out. And he would rather take his own narrative into his own hands. And be like, no, I'm bowing out time. I'm going out for the women because I'm the real man here. However, if Ricky sees that he might. Stay. I think he might start to be like, whoa. Wait a minute. Let's horse of a different color. So so we'll see we'll see what happens there. All right. All right. Scott for. Was talking about a long update. I'm like, well, that's partly me. Because I go on. And I I talk lot. That's just how I go. I got things to say people. I'm not on very often in the morning when Brent is on on an update, you know, it's going to be longer and this one was going to be long regardless regardless. Yeah. Exactly. No one was books today. I was like tearing you need somebody. I don't see on the schedule. If that's what Taryn said he was like if you see a place where you want to put yourself in just put yourself in. I'm like, oh here we go. I was up all night watching the feeds and the last night. So here we are. Yes. There will be a round table tonight. So. Oh, she gets them sleep. I will be releasing the forum for you guys as soon as this is this podcast is over. I got some suggestions for bonus questions. So you can make make sure you fill it out is some fun questions in there. I wanna see if our, of course, candies probably going to hurt this endeavor. But I wanna see if our average king can be even lower than what it was. Rob with the shade on his show where he was like the scores of each competition where like three four three three three four. He's like I thought it was like Yellow Sea stock watch for God's sake. 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Exactly exactly how I felt. And I remember you and I covered that morning when Paul and Josh were yelling at Justin, Cody. So this feels a little deja vu Fridays. What do they do? What do they do them on Fridays? Something in the air tear. And I don't know. So I also want to give a an adult language warning for this update. Just in case there are any little children around. There's just there's so much profanity that happens yesterday that I don't think we can get through this update without mentioning a little bit of it. So just watch out for that. Yeah. As I was taking notes, I tried to you know, edit myself. So that I didn't say it on the podcast, and then it just got to a place with like, I don't know if I can do this. There's just so much dry. So we are we are here to talk about everything that happened yesterday on the feeds, and let's do it. All right. So we start the day. Regular strategy. Big brother. It's Tom and candy Tom's telling candy about everything that happened similar kind of conversation that he had with Joey where he's like, hey, this is what happened? I was gonna use the veto, and then the women betrayed us and so on and so forth. If you wanna stay this week, you got to figure out how to get the person with the power mar to use it on you. So that you're safe. He would love for that to happen because then he could back door Lolo. But unfortunately, Tom, that's not going to happen. So but point is he has a pretty good conversation with candy here. It starts to feel a little good about here. Yeah. This was very run with the mill like, okay. Yes. Normal conversation now that after all the craziness that happened the night before that you talked about in the morning update things are now starting to come out in the open, and Tom is more willing to talk to you know, the people outside of your lines about look this was the whole plan. This is what I really want to happen. Let's try to scramble to make something happen this week. Even though it's not the original plan, so normal sort of behavior. Yeah. Then we then we get a little crazy. I tweeted that I feel like the rage virus was was put into the breakfast of the houseguests or something or at least at least Natalie and low lows breakfast, Natalie Tom Kato Lolo get into a bit of a thing here. And it's it's a bit of a mess. So we'll we'll try and make a little bit of sensitive Kato is basically he's upset Kato's. He's feeling betrayed. He wants to he's kind of being passive aggressive in the house. And so he's kind of talking to Natalie. And he's like, hey, you know, I wish we could have talked yesterday before the veto was used that would have been great and Natalie's. Like, look you're in the bathroom with me multiple times. You could have talked to us whenever you wanted to don't, you know, don't give me this. Oh, I wish we could've talked when you are at fault just as much as us and Lolo chimes in with like, oh, yeah. You guys you guys. You had no problem. Talking our ears off the day before. But all of a sudden, you can't talk to us. When the veto is going to be used. Oh boy. Already starting to get out of hand. This is like the start of sort of the two isolated conversations that were happening yesterday essentially about why that's I won't talk to us. Why won't they talk to us? And then Kato trying to be I don't know the mature adult maybe decided to go to Natalie and try to get this out in the open. Let's just talk about you know, I feel like we should've talked yesterday. I can't believe we didn't. Although he doesn't necessarily go about it and like necessarily the best way. And then as like jazz, Natalie if she'd ever been to acting academy because of all the drama and acting that she's doing so very passive aggressive at this point until Lolo gets involved. I will say nobody is innocent here except for who I feel pretty good about things like Kato was immature Lolo and Natalie were like, whoa. Rickie was being Ricky. No. But from all of through all of this. I feel like Tom is the one that has pretty much maintained his dignity. I don't know if you agree with that. Now. I mean, no one is playing a good game. So. Game. Why we're we're not even talking game. This phone, right? Yeah. Exactly. This isn't even about game. This is about just sort of maintaining your dignity as a person, I guess because. Yeah. The behavior from everybody just is absolutely ridiculous. Except for you. I would agree with Tom. On his own like weird stuff. We'll get into this about him playing pool and testing out the pots and pans of five in the morning. But I think maybe he just seems the most normal compared to everybody else. Yeah. I mean, candy, obviously, someone who's not involved. Like candy is the one obviously the most sane. But yeah of the people involved, I would say. I would say I'm talking I'm talking team fun team fund. Ray feel Tom is is definitely the cleanest of them. Although he doesn't have a routine quite as vigorous as Joey's. So anyway, Tom, Tom is like, okay. Hey, guys. Can let's maybe we should talk about this privately. Maybe we should go talk because they're in like the kitchen right now in the middle of everyone talking about like, oh, why didn't we talk to each other? You guys talk to us forever before an Lola's? Like, no, no, I'm not I have not for this BS. I am not for this Bs and Cato's. What's what what did you say? I am not for this B S, and then Kato gets loud. He's like have you taken an acting close any bangs on the counter one or two times it's too, but that's going to be a point of contention. I'm pretty sure it's actually I think it was. Yeah. And they were in succession, so it was like. And lolo. I am not an actor. I can tell. I am an athlete. So my okay. So yeah, my favorite part about all of this is just the way that it escalates. Because it's like you said Tom green is just trying to say, hey, guys. So like, maybe we should talk about this in private because that's what you should do. But no, they're going to talk about it out in the open, and essentially it all boils down to the fact that Kato is saying look we didn't talk yesterday. You know, Lolo was the words he chose. We're out cold meaning that she was asleep, which Lolo takes a fence to what do you mean? I was out cold. You wear a sleep, you know, the phrase out cold. And so that happens the whole act in class thing happens. And there's a lot of yelling a lot of you guys are pieces of shit's from Lolo a lot of that. So yes, lots lots and lots of yelling. And then of course, Tom green in the background just being like, well, we know what you guys did very calmly. You know, what we did, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, lots and lots of yelling, you know, you pissed off everyone. Everyone hates you. Nobody likes you anymore. Yeah. And then my favorite thing. Also is just of course, we've seen this before where Tom tells one story that is different than, you know, taymor in the previous example. And this is going to be the same thing. You know, once they actually disperse a little bit from the kitchen, then Tom green. Well, we know what you guys did. And then Natalie the background. Oh, we know what you guys did you sending we know what you guys did just yelling. And then of course, you know, the whole like everything just starts to come out in the open lots of yelling and lots of complete insanity. Yes. It's it's really, and you can tell that Lolo Natalie in particular, just like they're very much. They always talk about like you guys have pissed everyone off by everyone. They mean, like taymor, Ricky and themselves, and that's greed with them. So like, they're like look everyone agrees. It's everyone. It's us plus like two people. That's everyone. Do we have so much confirmation about how? How we feel and that means it's everyone. Well, and so what's interesting is. Of course, do you have these super emotional people that are yelling, and then sort of the others in the group the candies the Dina's the Joey's of the world that when somebody is yelling like that. And being crazy. What are you going to go up to them and say, no, actually, I think you're wrong. So of course, they're agreeing with them saying, yeah. Oh my gosh. That was crazy. It can you believe what they did because low is acting like an insane person. And by the way, the same person in the house, candy, not quite an agreement with them. So actually, yes and candy. Oh, my God candy doing her make up in front of the mirror. Just trying to be like I'm just trying to stay out of this choice. How're you doing? Just like I'm just trying to not get involved. Yeah. So yes, Tom pulls gateway they go. A we know what you guys did Tom and Ricky are going to prove conversation where Tom Tom just drink. He's like, hey, Ricky, I've been trying to back door you for a while. Yeah. I get it out in the open. I've been trying to back door you for two weeks. Just straight up tells him we don't have to pretend anymore, and that's what you both sides. We're very happy later in the day. They talk about we don't have to fake this relationship and Tom. Well, he means that he's going to go straight up Turkey and tell them exactly what's been going on Ricky, though, he's dedicated to his craft tricky. I was never pretending. I never pretended. Oh my gosh. How could you do that to me? And then he just straight up leaves. He's just like just Li just like I didn't even catch that line at first I had to go back and rewatch it like I didn't hear him say anything because it's really staying in his then way. It was crazy. Yeah. We're going to get Lolo Natalie lo-lower Natalie talking with Dina and Lolo lo-lose starts this off like look Dina. I know that Tom and Kato put you up to that argument with candy. I know they made you do it and dean is like what? That's my favorite part about Dina. This whole time is Dina has sort of no sense of what she really should be doing just sort of goes along with anything that like kind of makes sense to her. So you know, Lolo and now later, they're they're the emotional ones there in that. No. Who would say that about me? That's not true. That's not true. Let me let go like, no stop. Not right now. Honey, not right now. Yeah, not Natalie is telling DNA, you'd be crazy. If you were if you walked around with kid, if you if you have friendly with Kato, no, everyone hates them, everyone sees them for who they are. And you should too. You should not be friends with Kato that would be that would be you be crazy to do that. They are ma- their male chauvinist pigs. They're threatening women. Don't don't use OC. It yourself with them Dina. They are rude to everyone on the house. And then of course, Lola's line about. Oh, but I thought they were nice guys. I thought Tom and Cato. We're nice guys. But now they're threatening everyone and their male chauvinist pigs which then for brace. Like did. I miss something. I feel like I'm watching an episode of a television show. But I missed the previous episode that setup all of this because it was really confused when they were threatening everybody and being rude over on the house, then I remember the conversations from the night previous about the them. Threatening people during I guess veto ceremony. Don't forget the looks during the ceremony the look threatening looks. Don't forget Tom playing murder mystery. That was very threatening retin-a. Oh, my other favorite part was there threatening only the women in the house. Yeah. Have you seen them threatening? Ricky, they didn't threaten Ricky never. Meanwhile, Ricky's like yelling at like, I'm trying to do my yoga, Tom, can you just leave? This is disrespectful yet. They and get on Ricky get into thing in the gym Ricky's trying to do yoga, and he just wants them to leave and catos like, no, Tom don't leave. Yeah. Okay. So this conversation was really interesting because. Okay. So you have the initial thing where Ricky they come into. Okay. So Ricky is working out in the workout room. And then Kato and Tom come in. And then rookie Tom tells Ricky about the back door thing Ricky, it's mad leaves. And then this is when Ricky comes back in and then tries to have this. I don't know what he was trying to prove that Kato is not actually Tom's friend because it was so mad as hobby. Why don't Tom you have a whole room to yourself? You keep talking about how amazing your age OH room is go hang out in your H room. Like, what is it? My room alone. And then he was like why don't you have to go with you away? Hey, does not gonna come with you because Kato's not your real friend. He's not your real friend rinky. What are you even talking about right now? You know, who else thought Cato was their friend a certain other football player right now. What happened? Yeah. That wasn't real fake fakeness. Joke though. Lolo and Tom get into another confrontation. This is one of the worst of the day. Lolo? I'm not even sure how this started. I don't think we saw the beginning of it. But Lolo is just like yelling at Tom screaming. You guys are pieces of shit. Guess what Tom? You can't play. And Tom is like how win the veto? She's like good for you, Tom. You are a piece of effing shit. You're a terrible human being. You're a psycho. Tom. Great about all of this was happening off camera. So so the camera is on like Dina and candy doing something super boring or just like Dina's just like all of a sudden you could hear it in the background Lolo is yelling show loudly. Insane things. I was so confused about where this came for. I mean, well, I can guess about where it came from because she was upset earlier. But it felt like why is he a psycho was this like related to the H competition because he won the haunted house psycho murder competition. Maybe it's so over the top. She's she genuine like. This should psychologist should study. Big brother, nineteen big brother celebrity to this is fascinating stuff. And it's disgusting about human nature. I think so I okay. So then I had flashbacks to remembering watching Lolo on champs versus pros or whatever. It was the challenge season that she was on. And I was like oh, yes. I do. Remember, she yelled a lot. And and so this is an off brand necessarily for her. I think putting her especially in this house just sort of compounds that, but yes, I agree with you. It was. Pretty interesting behavior. Yes. Tom, and Katie we're going to talk together catos like house just trying to express that. I feel hurt that they betrayed us that they sided with Ricky over us in that hurts them not trying to threaten anyone he apologizes. I'm I'm sorry America for blowing up on Lolo. I didn't mean to do that. And then they start to wonder, okay. With all these blowups doesn't really seem like Joey is on our side. Here. Joey has not Joe is still talking with them. They're spree Ming at us. Joe? He's talking with them Joey supposed to be with us. I feel like we probably don't have Joey he's also a much bigger threat than candy. We should definitely work on keeping candy at this point. Right. Yeah. So okay now, we're starting to get a little bit of strategy regarding the vote coming out of all of this because. Yeah. Like, you said we have this conversation with Tom and Kate and the gem where there's sort of working through all of these things, and Tom just I felt so horrible for Tom now moment because he was just like, well, she's saying that I'm sexist and stuff like that. Have we threaten people like he genuinely no idea what she was talking about and Kato was talking about. Oh, well, I want to go talk to loan. Don't go talk to her. She'll just yell at you. In his apologetic mode. Yeah. Maybe I should go talk to Lolo, and that's going to go poorly. Oh, yeah. But yeah, just meanwhile, Joey and all of this. You know, he's in the conversation with Lolo and Natalie and Ricky is out there. And so, of course, you know, Joey is like agreeing with everything, and he's it's clearly like he's not with tomato anymore. He's now on this side. But of course, he floats around a lot and does a lot of bathroom things as Batman. So like who really knows, but my favorite my favorite moment was actually from earlier in the day after the yelling session happened. And it was Tom and Joe in the kitchen, Joey, why do we have so many coffee, Creamer? It's like Joey important things that we worrying about right now that whole the copy creepers out, okay? Not that. I mean, look, I there's a lot of drama happening. I understand. But like can we please keep the kitchen cleaner? We want the cl- the Creamer. We don't want that out on the we don't want aunt skies. Well, yeah. But then okay, we'll talk with a K mart and the cookies later. But yeah. Each other priorities in his life. So so now the goal is. Okay. If Kato view vote to keep candy if we could Dina to keep candy, then we just need to get taymor. If Tamara votes to keep candy. It's it'll be a three three vote. Tom will be able to break the tie in favor of keeping candy. This is a very real possibility. There is in the midst of all this drama, some genuine we don't even know who's going to be a victim tonight. So that's that's nice. Tom Cato have sort of rebounded a little bit in the strategic game with everything when everything is blown up. Everything is out in the open your mistakes. Everyone's starting over basically. Yeah. So I mean, essentially the way I see it in a house right now. And we can talk about where we think K mart is gonna fall because they think taymor is really in the swing vote position for this. Because essentially, you have Ricky lo lo and Natalie that are all going to vote to evict candy and keep Joey and then on the. Upside you have DNA and Kato that are going to vote to keep candy, and Joey which leaves taymor essentially in the swing position because of taymor makes it a tied vote three two three voting to keep candy. Then Tom would break the tie in their favor to keep candy. So really in terms of the strategy. This all comes down to tame our watch, which I'm guess, I'm here for and taymor for her part as we'll talk about is basically impossible to predict. Oh my goodness. Okay. So literally Taryn I was trying to say okay for the update gotta know. What side how the vote is gonna go because we've got the episode tonight as tamers on the side toy minsiter tamers on the other side Leterme later day Mars back on the side that can pounded with all of her crazy behavior previously. I mean genuinely no idea. Yeah. So anyway. We we we continue on here. Kato does go and he tries to talk to low. I should go talk to Lolo. He goes to go into the bedroom that Lolo sleeps in and he's like, hey Lolo. I just want to get out of my room. Outta here. I don't wanna see you rookie get him out. Get him out Ricky. Hey, Brit production, get Katie. Get my road. And then Ricky comes as the bouncer to like get Kato out of the room, and you see Kato kind of backing up backing away as she's yelling for production feeds cut. Oh my goodness. Like, I just wonder what productive. What would they have done in that moment to get get Kato out of the room? Does she think that they have? I don't know some bodyguards can just hop in and drag Kato out of the room, and he's just trying to come in an apology, clear the air too. Oh, man. So that happened Kato is our sorry Natalie is then gonna talk to tame mar taymor who who's been mostly out of this. So far, she's kind of been like doing her own thing. But Natalie's going to get her up to speed, and they're going to talk some trash about Tom and Kato, of course. And then tame Maher is going to drop some hints here because like so how much can we really trust Joey throw that out there. Do you? Do you think it'll go back to the guys after this to Tom Kato after after all of this? If we keep him, and then he goes back to the guy that would be pretty bad. Right. That was like, nah, we don't need to worry about Joey. It's definitely not going to happen. Yeah. So I'm not a betting woman. But if I were there are these little hints like you mentioned that sort of indicate where taymor is leaning towards so one is can we really trust Joey do we really think he's with us? And of course, Lolo and Natalie. Oh, well, we have Tom Kato Tori, about why would we even focus on? Joey when we have tomato to worry about. And then you know him. I was like, okay. Well, but you know, I really was able to repair my relationship with candy. And I feel really good about where we are now because we essentially came into this house's enemies, and now we're on the same page, and you know, Ricky and Natalie are all oh, yeah. But she'll be fine with it. It's just a game she understands so these little things from tame are that are sort of hinting about the fact that she doesn't want to vote out candy that might indicate where she's voting could very much could Kato is going to talk to Dina and tell her when need to keep candy we need to we. That's what we gotta do if we can get tame Mars vote, then we'll be able to break the tie in her favor. Dina is all right. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. What is so funny as so Kato uses the logic of well, Joey is a bigger threat to Dina, which I think makes sense. But then, you know, this whole idea of well, Joey's the bigger conference and candies easier to beaten competitions, candy finds out that that's the reason why they're voting out, Joey and Kato is not. I mean like doesn't even think oh, maybe you should say it's because candy. We really like you. We wanna work with you. It's no it's because you're easier to beat in competitions. Yes. That can be the logic in your head. But that doesn't necessarily mean that that's the logic that you should tell somebody. Why you're keeping them in the house? But it seems so honestly it kind of seems to work out in his favor. So in terms of gameplay, I I don't even know what they're doing. Yes. It's. No sooner does we're then going to get a Natalie and Lolo conversation. There's just some interesting stuff in here. Natalie says they could. Who cares? If Cato is trying to apply they could never apologize. It wouldn't even matter if they apologized after what they've done. What they've done how they've betrayed us because they would have honored the four if Tom and Kato had honored the five, of course, it's not their fault. It's Tom and Cato's fault because they didn't honor the Natalie says, it doesn't even make sense because technically we weren't even working with Ricky. We just had our backs. And obviously, I mean, obviously, we're going to choose Ricky over those two assholes like, obviously, but it doesn't make any they're just assholes at this point is is basically what's going on. Oh my gosh. I there were just some really unfair. Just quotes that really pushed it in. This is where it starts to get some of the nasty direction. Because of course, Lolo saying while I'm disgusted that these guys don't believe in the strength of women. And they only partnered with us because they thought that they could beat us. And it goes back to the male chauvinist thing. The only reason they teamed up with us because they thought we were weak and easily manipulated the they could beat us in like if you flush back to the conversations, Tom and Cato have like alone about the women. They're like we just really loved them. And like I would just love to get to the end with them. And then Duke it out like that would be great like they really genuinely wanted to get to the end with those those two women because they liked them. They thought they were strong. They wanted everyone to get to the end together. It was just you know, Tom had his thing with Ricky. Right. Exactly. It's all because Tom and Ricky didn't get along at this. Well, I don't know. I don't want. I think it could have blown up. Anyway, this is free and Tom. Yeah. Exactly. But Tom and Ricky. That relationship is definitely the catalysts for this whole thing falling apart. But yeah, oh my gosh. Reasons a little is using was crazy. My favorite part of this conversation is how the both were talking about this game. You need people to vote for you. In the end, you need jury votes in order to win. And there is no way that we would ever vote for those two guys. And nobody else would either they have lost all of their jury votes. They can't win the game. Oh, yeah. Okay. Kool-aid man. No. It was because Tom and Kato have betrayed every single person in this house. How dare they meanwhile, go to Twitter and see Jonathan Bennett liking tweets about like oh Lolo Jones. Always the victim all the antilock Jones. I mean sounds logic. But applied in the wrong way. Lolo like, it's it's this kind of stuff, you know, that it just really makes you feel okay with a bitter jury when you know that the people that are going to be voted against would have definitely been bidders. And in fact are advocating for a bitter jury. They just don't realize that they're the problem not the people that are complaining about well. It's so hard because. If you're doing it for strategic reasons if you're going to betray someone for a strategic purpose that will further your game. I feel like that. Then, you know, somebody's going to be a bitter juror against that that okay? You know, come on get over it. It was just a game, but Lolo just show personal for so it's so unnecessary. Sometimes and I could see somebody being quote, unquote, bitter against that. Because it's not doesn't seem to be related to game play necessarily. Honestly, I everyone knows my thoughts on jury votes and everything I if if the jury voted against either Natalie or Lolo, I would I would personally declare them not a bitter jury, not even not even a bitter jury at all. Because here's the thing. They asked for it. They've advocated for people to not vote for people who betrayed people. They're not even playing a good game. They're just now they just happen to maybe be in the best spot in a house where nobody's good. And they're also just like terrible in the things that they're saying ridiculous. It's just I I'm full on saying it is not even a bitter jury at all if they vote against these people if Dino wins over them, that's because DNA played a better celebrity big brother game. And I'm very serious about that. Yes. Because you know, we talk about oh, somebody who did nothing versus someone who did a lot of good things. But maybe also did some bad things where does it even out Lolo and Natalie even Murray, especially Lolo are just on the negative side and Dina's on the did nothing just kind of like hanging out. And that is overall a more positive and better game. I think in this situation. So I would cosign that right? So that happened. We're not even we're not even at the end of this. Well, we haven't even gotten to like the worst part yet. Candy in tame are are going to have a conversation candy is going to let us know that. Hey, hi, I'm still the only sane person in this just in case anyone was wondering like I mean, it's kind of weird that Lolo Natalie are complaining about this stuff when they they were talking about backdoor for a week. And now all of a sudden it's popped up like, okay? Sure. And all all sorts of stuff candy, again just just proving to be the rational when I listened to Ross Mathews did an interview with Jonathan. And with Ryan Jonathan seemed to really respect candy has what if the only sane people in that house? If candy does day this week, I guarantee you I was I was wondering if she could get the votes in the end, especially after the events of yesterday she would win unanimously. I think so watch out for that. I mean, I think anyone would wouldn't need Emslie against these women. This. But so anyway, candy good. Yeah. I mean, it is. So like I promised to candy. I will say because it's so easy to be influenced by the people around you and the behaviors that are going on around you. And the fact that candy is just like, I ain't gotta what is going on is insanity. But still then being willing to play like bringing it up to tame. Mar the fact that well if they were going to have low and Natalie knew about this back door plan for two weeks. Why are they bringing it up now? So still getting into the strategy. I really really hope candies days. So. Tame candy now knows that she needs to vote that if our votes for her to stay than it will be a tie and Tom will keep her. So she wants to know. Hey, are you going to vote for me to stay Tamar and Tamar says, yes, I will vote for you to stay no matter what? Staying. That's it case closed done deal. Shut it down the feeds off. We know. What's going to happen tonight? Totally done. And yes, I am definitely going to do it for sure it's totally solid. Meanwhile, Natalie Ricky and lo-lower like this t market of vote with us because she was vote with us that might be bad. We need Joey in the house. He's like a lot better winning competitions. He's going to go against the guys candy's going to have to make a deal with the guys to stay. That'd be bad. How do we convince tame mar to keep Joey we need to they're coming up with a bunch of different arguments of like, Joey better competitions candy's going to make deals with the with the guys all of this stuff? I tweeted out guys going about this all wrong. Just start a group conversation about what makes people relevant and then boom canine going to be like I am voting against her. No matter what. Because that's what happened last time. Yeah. Exactly. You got an you know, that's the thing. You gotta play the people that you're with you gotta recognize what it is that would convince them to do certain things most people in the logic or even just simple emotions. But no, it's all. About being relevant for that. Really should have been argument. You're right. So they they bring taymor in they explained to her all of this stuff. Like, hey, Joey is much more useful. He's all this stuff. Blah, blah, blah. Can't he's gonna make a deal with the devil in order to stay. And is like I hear what you're saying makes sense, but on an emotional level. I can't do that to candy. I I don't wanna ruin this relationship that we've sort of mend it a little bit. I don't want to do that. And they're like, it's look it's not about the relationships. This is a game. She'll understand just like we understood when Tom did something. So it's totally cool. We'll definitely be friends after just like how I told my social media manager to block Tom on all social media platforms. We're definitely gonna talk after we're just like you and candy. The really making a convincing argument. Yeah. Exactly. You know, what she's going to be fine? He goes Vardi repaired. Your relationship. Totally fine. It's just a game. It's just a game Lolo is just a Lolo saying, oh, it's just a game. Oh, it's just a game. Okay. Sure. Yeah. That's how you were behaving earlier just a game. Yes. So they're like. Understand and look at you have to make this. She's going to work with the guys and she came. I was like, okay. If she's going to work with the guys that does change things. I have a reason I'll be able to tell her my reason, I can ask her straight up. And if she says she's gonna work with the guys now, it'll be like, then I'm sorry. I got a vote you out, and they're like, well, I mean, she's not going to tell you for you want to hear. He's not going to give you the reason. Like she's going to deny it, obviously. She's like, wow. No. It's a game. Chip Beck is against the wall. Now, she wouldn't lie. It's not lying. If your back is against the wall. She has to do it. Yeah. This is really great. This happened a couple times. So it's it's it's no Lookie Lolo Nadal, Natalie Lolo, and yes, I did ask her name suggested no Liqi that to me. I don't know. I also got a know LOKI suggestion, which I feel is this a little less suggestive. I dunno. Nah. Put a poll out there. I don't know. Maybe you could put your poll up on. No lucky would be done wonder people want. The no Lookie came on the poll. Anyway. So no lucky is in the and they're talking to tame our and taymor a couple times. Does that thing where oh I'll just ask candy. I'll just see what you know of candy tells me. Yes, I'm gonna work with the guys or. Yeah. I would be okay. If you voted me out, then him Martha's. Yep. I'll be totally fine. And both times you can see the other three just be like. Like, okay. But no. But that's definitely what would happen. But just don't ask her. So you could tell that they were hesitant about any conversation happening between Martin candy. Yes. So what happens is taymor goes to candy and say like exactly, hey, so are you gonna have you made a deal with with the boys with these guys devil, though with the devil and candies? Like, no, of course, not. Yeah. Exactly. And see this is where earlier win Kato is saying we want to keep candy because she's easier to be not because oh we really like candy. We wanna work with candy. It actually is in his favor because candy says, yeah, they're only keeping me because I'm easier to beat and because Joey is more of a competition threat. It works. A preferred team. I mean, this is a lot like this is what team are wants to see the fact that. Oh, should they're not working together. And candy straight up says. Yeah, we're not I'm not working with the boys. Also like Dina's involved in this conversation a little bit like later, and they're like, yeah. We're we need to stick together. And keep candy and Dana. Yeah. What she does with everything. Anytime anybody proposes her anything. She was like, yeah. I'll do it. Yeah. And if somebody had run in you know, if she had had some glass of wine should have run into the shower. I've been showering for twenty five minutes. Yeah. So this is where you know, the three those three women started sort of by guess get together. If we could bring him one of the boys, we'll have all the power taymor promises. Candy. I'm gonna vote to keep you. I'm going to tell the women that I'm going to vote you out. But secretly, I'm going to keep you. Okay there. It is candy safe. End of story now information and Surrey confirms what we saw even though there was a brief time where she was saying. Okay. I'll vote candy Alpo. We'll just pretend that that didn't happen. Yeah. There we go. She promises she's going to lie to the women. She's going to keep candy safe. Her next conversation is with Joey and she wants to make a final two. Okay. Hold on. So tamers talking to Jeffey right after this. And she's like look chilly, candy, just I wish I could keep her, but she doesn't understand this game. So look if I vote to keep you will you work with me. Of course, she's like will you you'll take me all the way to the end one hundred percent. I'm serious about this. I'm dead serious. I will do this final two, then we're good. All right. So now she's made a final two with Joey. She's promised candy that no matter what she'll keep her and that she's going to lie to her allies about it. No idea. I when this conversation started, I thought it was just you know, tame are starting this strategy of. Okay. I'm going to tell the girls that I'm voting to keep Joey. But really I'm gonna vote him out. I'm gonna keep candy. And I thought that that's where this conversation was gonna go. No it up very serious. And hey, Mark essentially trying to reaffirm what Joey that. Yes. Indeed. We are a final. Do. We are going to the end together. I'm sorry. What? This'll make no Kana sense. But I guess this is what's happening right now. Yeah. So who knows and honestly not only his taymor up in the air right now. In terms of who she's going to vote for I don't even know who Dina's gonna vote for. Now at no one knows. No, no one really knows. I mean, if I had to say, I would probably think that she would vote to keep candy. But think so but like again like she's kind of all over the place. I think we could be the last person that talks to her. Yeah. I mean, really it could be and that was kind of how I felt about taymor was it's going to be the last person. I talked to tame are also that might be able to sway her to vote one way or the other. And it was so funny because Joey in taymor had an interaction a little bit before this year. Mart was eating the cookies that Joey requested Joey got mad about her eating cookies, even though he offered them to her for her to have some. And then he Joey goes, and he takes the cookies any hides them in his drawer in his bedroom. And he was muttering something about like, you can't have these. So the bath man is really protective of his whole foods cooking this. But then makes final to attain Marceau. Maybe he'll share the cookies in their final to deal cookies in my back cave. Nobody can get him. Alfred Alfred where am I cook? He's yeah. Cookies clean up the crumbs on your way. Why do we have so many coffee Creameries out? Yeah. That's that's the bath. Man for you. Then. Oh my God. I decided so much time watching Joey like in the bathroom. So that was extra punishment of today on the chances from bath men to the cookie monster. C is for cookie? You better clean it up. He's really get into children's songs there. And when in the offseason. Oh, man. All right. So. Tame our and Kato have a conversation. This. She is mad about the table pounding. She's at what was the table pounding about is. I was trying to get her attention. You pounded it twice founded at once. No you pounded twice. No, it was only once I was just trying to get Lolo to pay attention to me. So I made what was one time to get her attention. So once nose to times just threaten. The retina her. Oh god. Yes. I could not believe I was watching an argument about how many times a man had hit a table. But then I had to know to co back and watch it Bill hall says once this benign twice is genocide. So true one one. Okay. One time you hit the table. This is like shame on like fool me once. Shame on me. Fool me twice. Shame on you kind of deal slam the table ones. Shame on me. Shame on you. I don't know. Well, the table slam with a table. Yeah. It's been a long day. It was a crazy day of lettuce. Anyway, I was hurt. I was betrayed. No trace, you cannot be betrayed. No, no, no. Whole cycle of. We gotta repeat about whole argument about why Kato is not betrayed while. He's the betrayer the ultimate betrayer. The man you must not be named the guy that is bad and should be kicked out of the house. We get a whole new cycle of it. Because he said, yes, he said the b word betrayed should not have done that. Oh my goodness. And so now in retaliation Lolo does I team are, you know, what's even worse about Kato? He compared you to miss Cleo. Yes. Done. Oh my goodness. Yes. So Kato so miss Cleo. Is a black woman who wears scarves on her head. And that is why Kato made the comparison. And that is really I mean, this really sets. Hey, Mark off because she feels like he is being racist comparing her to somebody who, you know, they look similar in the sense that they have the same skin tone, and they wear the same head garp. That's where it came from. Yes. And. I think there are very real cases to be made that this was definitely an insensitive remark rod joke, and that Kato should apologize. And that yes, this is this is genuinely. Could could could be considered offensive. I think there's been a lot of debate about it. Whether or not it is. But either way if taymor takes offense to it. Then I think it's something that should be apologized for Kato. Actually does apologize for it. But but taymor does not accept the apology. Tomorrow says that he is a racist sexist pompous misogynist asshole. I don't accept your apology. Yeah. My favorite was pompous out of all of the insults. Got like racist, sexist Astle pop s. How dare she called him pompous? But yeah. And of course, this is another time where there's an argument happening off camera, and I'm just listening while watching Joey groom himself. Yes. And so. The feeds the the people in charge of the cameras and the show do not really like this anymore. They're like this drama has become a little too much. And so they want to avoid showing it I do not expect this to make the show e there were a lot of feed cuts a lot of fees being down. They hit that button. Once twice. I don't even know how many times, but it definitely brought feeds down because this was something that they. Yeah. Just clearly did not want everybody to see. So I don't know what that means. But were definitely not going to see it on the edited show. That's what I do know. Yes. So. It's a very messy situation. It continues to devolve into name calling and apologies and not accepting apologies and yelling and threatening. And just really just puts a puts a nice little bow of terribleness on the whole day. Yeah. I thought we were I thought okay feeds are kind of calming down. We're going to getting back to strategy. And then I don't know the miss Cleo thing happened. And it was I mean it was allowed like I thought Lois yelling loudly. Earlier taymor was very very upset. Like, this is beyond an apology. It's unacceptable for you to speak to me this way. I like pompous. Racist, sexist, atoll, dare KEDO. Insane. It's it's bad. It is it is bad. So that's that's what's going on in the big brother celebrity house. Hey, that's what I'm saying. Pour. A little Ryan was the Hilton make it out before this craziness came down. Another instance of Joey having the right priorities here one he goes and talks to the women to make sure that they know he's still on their side. He's like, you know. In the worst part about it is last night. I was just trying to take a shower, and they were just like, hey, can we just talk? I it was like I just want to shower shower bath man stuff is no joke. And there was another funny. Joey moment yesterday when he takes a felt like seventeen hour, long shower. But it was it was a really long shower, then Dina comes into trying to take a shower the water's cold like Joey used up all the water. No more hot water in the manner. Oh, man. So I believe I believe after Joe he was in the shower Dina was not able to get any. Is mad because Joe head to make his head super, shiny. And that takes a lot of hot water, and Tom and and. Kato? We're like, okay. Here's the plus about getting Joey out of the house. You can finally have the bathroom tears. So. Oh. Oh that was so funny because Tom locks the bedroom door he's like well when Joey comes up to try to use the bathroom. I'm going to tell him. No. Oh, no signed to watch Joey downstairs for hours. So also, some people like I said Dina's vote is kind of in the a lot of people in chat really feel like she has. She has flipped because she got mad at Tom and Cato late at night. I don't know. I don't know how solid that is. But like I said her vote could theoretically be up in the air. I mean, I think more on that today when we watch, and we will we will see how it goes tonight on the fiction. Yeah. And anything else Ileana not that? I can think of I mean fees are going to be down a lot state because we do have the show tonight. So I'm going to be looking for any little hints that I can pick up during the day about how things might be going before we go down because we might be blindsided as might be an audience blindside coming out tonight. Yes. So yeah, I. Who knows where tamer is going to be. I if my guess is the DNA will will vote with the guys. But theoretically, she might not. We could see candy state. We could see Joey stay. Honestly, I was I was rooting for Joe to I think I'd still probably lean that way, even though I like candy as a person more just because candy still hasn't really brought much. But at this point, I'm almost like if candy brings some sanity the house, maybe that's better. Maybe even like, I don't know if we need more drama. So maybe maybe candy is the better option. I'm not even sure this point. It definitely would help though, it would be fun. If what I'm really hoping for is that if taymor does keep candy that she goes along with the plan of not telling the women first. So that the women feel the women feel some actual betrayal for their from for the first time that would be real beginning. Here's the thing about Natalie and Lolo they talk so much about how they're constantly betrayed. They've never touched the block. They've never been betrayed in the house. They've people have talked about it. But there have been tons. Opportunities for their allies to betray them. They've never actually gone through with it. They don't know what it's like to have the feeling of somebody. Actually stabbing you in the back. Exactly they've been saved because of Tom and Cato in what way have they been betrayed by Tom and Kato. I I would love. Oh my gosh. In an ideal world Kato wins H, O H and puts up Natalie would make me so happy. I would just Sobe here for it. In terms of news, going home. I want candy to stay because I'm rooting for Tom. And I would think that that would be fun. But on the other hand, I really like what Joe is bringing to the house because I think what we talk about candy is mostly in person completely agree. But Joe is also not I mean, he's kind of feeding into a little bit of the drama, but not so much and he's bringing me some wonderful jokes. Like, he's crazy in a fun way. Exactly. He's crazy in a fun way. Her we I think like seventy five percent of the laughs. We got in this update, we're straight from Joey. So that's a very good point. I'm torn. But here's if candy stays if she stays because taymor betrays the women, I think that would be fun because they'd experience actual betrayal. And I think it would also kind of create three different factions in the house with no Liqi as one faction, you got ta mar and candy, and maybe kind of Dina, but also kind of not and then you've got Tom. Kato with Dina. And so with three different factions in the house, I feel like we've got some more game to be played in that might be fun as well. So either way we're going to we're going to stay. We're going to stay positive. You know, we're gonna rise above their negativity. And we're going to be hopeful for the future. Yeah. This is the black near episode where we had to do that. She was your own adventure thing. I would actually be okay with choosing either. Because I think both are going to give us just a different fund outcome. I I'm just I'm beyond excited for the episode tonight. I cannot wait to see what happens. I think worst case is that taymor decides to keep candy tells the women the women are like, oh, we can't change your mind will keep candy to and then it's like unanimous. Oh, that'd be that'd be the worst case. I think well that option wasn't on my screen thing. I'm gonna pretend like that. That didn't have early Brooker would never. Yeah. All right. Thank you guys for joining us. I hope that you were able to experience some joy from this. Even if you were as depressed as I was watching the feeds yesterday. So as bad as it gets in there. We will always have fun out here. That is the rule. Yes. So much fun because I have to go put away some coffee Creamer right now. Thank you, Joey for reminding me, I just appreciate all the little things that happen in the house. Yes. Alright. So the fiction will be tonight, I believe at eight PM eastern, and we will of course, be here to recap the episode talk about what's going on. 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Big Brother Canada 7 | March 27 | Wednesday Morning Update Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | March 27 | Wednesday Morning Update Podcast

"Doc. Rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. That he could do to Morrow will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for February fourth. I'm gonna turn Armstrong. And with me today is the magnificent meth local magnificent. Hello. Hi, tehran. Hi, everyone doing great to be back over everyone's been enjoying celebrity big brother to it's been pretty wild ride this far. And I think all of those that were like waiting for a dramatic Bill season. You've got what you want. Did that you are like living in relishing very moment. Because you know, this is as much as the feed keep cutting and don't they put all this stuff in the episode? Just take what it is. And be grateful that we're even getting live entertainment. Yes. We are here to talk to you about everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds it was bit of a slow day here. So it's gonna be a quicker update. There's I think more drama in the sports world and in the big brother twenty world than there was in for this elaborate last night. Oh, yeah. So no way goodness. Gracious. Oh boy. So let's talk about the feeds yesterday as I mentioned was a very slow day. However, we started the day with lots of stuff that wasn't important, but we also had taymor Natalie low low and Ricky talking about candy that they feel threatened by candy. They feel like she was trying to help Kato in the H competition. So they wanna make sure that Kato or the candy is also on the hit list soon. Yeah. I mean, it's getting out of the game where you know, the like, you just need to find any kind of reason to get rid of people, even if you've been working with them to a certain degree. I know that like taymor and candy have been sort of like, you know, making up after quite a motorist relationship in that house. But at the same time, you know, you really got to start thinking about your any game. And is somebody that you really think that you can take the end does she have the most winters equity right now is she kind of like the most liked in the house, or at least the least disliked in the house in you win vote against there. And I think that. I, you know, whether or not it's about her helping Kato or if it's about low building that she will have the vote in the end because she's been popping off when everybody's much the point the finger at other people kinda remains to be seen. But I mean the that point of the game where you got to really start thinking. Hey, is this somebody that I can get to the end. It's getting down to the wire. Yeah. My favorite my favorite current subplot on the big brother celebrity to live feeds is Natalie in low talking about how other people won't have jury votes to win the game. I mean. Minna draft with them friends. And I was I was really really hoping my perfect team in my mind at the time would have been Jonathan. Kato and Natalie, and I really really wanted Natalie because I was like I was battling between the two of willower Natalie. And I'm like, I really didn't Lola's mouth when to get her in trouble a lot more than Natalie's out of anybody out of the two Nellie definitely is the superior player because you think a little bit more reserved a little bit more, you know, think for she speaks. But I mean, the two of them they really they really really should not be talking about anybody about these because you have been running around this house. Learn about like. Come on. Stuff awareness. Yes. We did also get Kato, and Tom I mentioned yesterday that Tom was trying to maintain a positive attitude, but then after his conversation with Ricky and tame mar about how they need to apologize because they're they're misogynists and all of this stuff. Tom's sort of interest in the game has been waning. He is talking about kind of like if I wouldn't veto. I'll just use it on UK toe and Kano's like, oh if I wouldn't veto all use it on you. And they're like, oh, no, no. I wouldn't let you do that. They're just they're just kind of like, oh man wonder when do we leave again? When do we stop being accused of things that are going to ruin career, right? Definitely like hard sit there, and you know, kind of b be in a power station, and you know, the people that you were against sort of gaining that power that kind of swallow. But one thing that I noticed I don't know if we will older Cass or just, you know, we've been getting so much drama. It's more noticeable now, but I just feel like, you know, they get straight down to the game. They're playing hard and in a minute that there's like. There's like opposition to them. It's like they kind of just shut down. It's like, okay. Well, if they're too good of a sports at the point. They're like, oh, well, you know, like, you guys got me like, we were you. But it's fine. Like you keep fighting come on. There's one of you will stay one of you will state's to have to. We're gonna do when the other one. Yes, they do eventually get there by the end of the day. But but yeah, they're definitely subdued here. Tom even said one point during the day, he was like like my my instincts like everything in me wants to be an instigator right now and to be Tom green. But he feels like he can because of like the stuff going around that like he needs to make sure that people know that he is not attacking anyone like he doesn't want to have that image something that I saw when I was researching Tom green prior to the season is that for a long time. There's a rumor there still is I guess that. He did this very offensive. Give prank where he went to a bar mitzvah dressed as Hitler. And like, whoa. That's terrible. Like. Never happened. As far as I'm aware. He denies it to this day. There's no footage of it is nobody in everything's this is the case. There was just like a rumor that was started. But it's like been haunting his career forever. I'm sure this is something that like he is like I do not want anything like this to be like surrounding me. So he is trying to be on his best behavior. I think to make sure like, hey, let's I don't I don't I don't need any of this right now. This is not worth the damage. It could do to my career, right? And I mean, I feel you know of anything production is beginning to privy to that because they've seemed to be editing. In those little way that show the leaf the motto confrontation, especially if it gets down to you know, the name calling, you know, bullying massage and all of that stuff. They seem to kind of just wanna be year away from that which can be frustrating for a lot of levies because they wanna see what is being said. They wanna see what's you these moves behind these players? But at the same time like I can understand, you know, wanting to be like, can we brother here, we just can somebody h nominate two people the money when the veto. They could not use it move on. I mean, I I understand it. I mean, it's unfortunate to see. It's really hinders somebody's game. But at the end of the day of are celebrities, though, they're thinking about ads promoting show when he leaves. So you know, he went to his show. I feel like in particular production has had sort of like the kid gloves on with these celebrities. I think they did kind of last year as well. I think the basically like they want drama, but they don't want this kind of drama because if they're never going to get anyone to agree to do the show if they feel like well, come on and then Mike tank because people throw around these Asians or whatever. So or I'll just look super terrible on like like an Lolo or Natalie's gays like I'll just look like such a jerk that nobody will ever like me again. So I think they really are trying to be like they want the drama, but they don't want. They don't want people to hate hate anyone on the show because they want celebrities to feel like this. Not going to be career suicide for them. Right. Yeah. In especially in today's day and age where like any little thing, and that the people that have been canceled, thus far don't have viable reasons to be cancelled. But we are living in a state of cancel coacher. So I think that people really walk on shows that they are being as you know. As with the word as knife of possible. Yes. These these people these players should have listened to the podcast. Right. Fray like that was like everybody needs to listen to that quired reading. The season of reality television. Just the people can just you know. Inoculate yourself. Nice. It's not that hard. Really not that. So they did they did talk a little bit. Tom cato. Tom's idea is okay. Maybe if I act pathetic enough like I don't even want to be here at all. Then if you win the veto keto, you're trying you want to be here. You win the veto. You take yourself off my spirit is broken. I don't even wanna be here. I'm so pathetic. Maybe they'll decide it's not even worth voting me out in the vote out the replacement, and that's how we can both. I mean, I. Yeah. I mean, it's something playing dead has worked for some people. It has not a lot. But. What else do you do what else can you where you've been at war with these people for so long? And you thrown words back at each other that, you know, there really is no solution to this other than that somebody has got to go. So I mean, but. You know who knows like sometimes as quickly as quickly. It's confrontations come up in this house with this particular group of houseguests, somebody is very likely to say something to rub some of the wrong way. Especially if someone as volatile as. So you know, it is definitely lifting your behavior in the house. It could work it could work probably not going to. But it's something. Yeah. I mean, I think that when you have two people on the block, and you want both of them to be saved that you have two options. One is you make an alliance or some kind of deal with the majority of the house. That's definitely off the table. The other one is this plan, I guess which could fee- radically work in a situation where the replacement nominee is not going to be Dina, and you've won two competitions and Dina's one nine and it's going to be you've versus Tina. And there's just no way anybody, no matter. How pathetic you're acting is ever gonna vote Dina off before you, right? I mean once you sort of create an image for yourself in this game. It's really hard to shed that. That's why the beginning of the game is so crucial because that is when you begin to, cultivate, that image. That's when the people's first impressions will compound, and you just have to it's like continuously working against others, impressions of you. And if you've gone so far down one end, it's really really hard to get that that balance too. It's hard. Candy is going to do some work here. I mentioned yesterday that tame Mars best move, actually, probably is to target Tom and Cato at this point just because you know, I think her best chance to get to the end and win means not pissing off Natalie low low and Ricky the ideal situation would have been to not win this H and let those two groups go at each other. So that she doesn't have to get involved and give them more advantages to one side. However, she's now in this position. And being in this position. I do feel like she just she needs to stay on their good side as much as possible. Do they will keep her until at least the final five ish? Maybe final four if its final four. That's her best case scenario, I think because she could potentially win against any of the three of them. And all she needs to do is when one competition, it's still not a great spot to be in. But it's better than nothing. However for candy. It's fantastic. If she convinces tame are to turn against those three because that. That makes everything wonderful for candy. So candy is doing making an attempt here to talk taymor into betraying the group of three Ricky lo lo and Natalie in particular, low Natalie because she feels like Natalie is a big threat to win because she thinks that Natalie's just gonna take Lolo Natalie's go easily beat low low. And there you go Natalie is the winner of the game. But says it's too early to early. I mean is it. I mean is it though taymor because the game is really like. I appreciate with candies because it's does a lot of you know. You know, this is like one of those prime examples of someone that doesn't really know the game coming in and really getting the hang of it. I think this you're less hindered by you'll viewing past seasons and conventional strategies of the game. So I feel like you kind of just you kinda you don't need all that other extra information about the game. You just like Natalie seems like she is in the best decision. Right now is exactly what we need to get it. And I think that it's really private tuition to sort of use the history that she has with pay more look at what we've been able to overcome look at like how much making in this house like she's kind of capitalizing on the the good good field. Feel-good dealing with. Come on like this together, we might as well just rockface out into the ends. And I guess tame our she's nervous because you don't want to. I mean, she's been going at it with low on the low like most of the time. So I don't really wants to their even though she's a bear herself. So I get that. But this this game is so is so fast. Like, I think that it really I think that really benefit from quickness issues I do. I mean. Yeah. The too early excuses. I think again, there's reasons for taymor not to turn on them too early. The reason. Especially when the finale is just over a week away. But you know, we'll see candy. I think correctly points out if it doesn't happen now it's not going to happen, which I think is completely correctly again yesterday. I said I think that this week is going to be seen as like this. It's this wage that allows one of Ricky Lolo sorry, one of Ricky or Natalie to win the game. So I do agree with that. I do think that they still have the best shot at winning the game. Despite the fact that this is taymor Mars best hope at this point. I think again winning this h was just disastrous for her in the first place and taymor says, no, no, no, no, Tom and Cato both have to go. I they both have to go. And that's where it's like. Okay. I think I still think the taymor is doing the right thing with her HOA JR. But her game plan is all wrong. She does not want both Tom and Kato to go. That would be terrible for she wants one of them to win h. Next week to go after that trio split them up a little bit that would give some kind of chance. But no, she wants them both gone, and then she wants Dina Khan. And then she wants to turn on them. I think or maybe she doesn't want a gun, but it still then she if she wanted to be three three at at best to her candy and Dina versus low low Ricky and Natalie in the competitions, which is a wo-. I don't think that's a great spot for you. Like, yeah. When you want I don't know why you would want to get rid of both of like tomato at the same time. I really love that we've come up with name. Chryslers? But yeah, like, you know, get rid of one of them keep the other one. Hopefully when h h and even if they don't win h h if somebody from yours, though, China and go after them, hopefully, and not you, and especially if you had that power you knew your way to be safe this week. I don't know why even put yourself in condition and just use your power. Let it rob. Yeah. I mean, I think I think he's probably going to have around for a little bit longer. So a mutt. Too. I'm not too scared about her demise in this game. But I as far as being able to win in the end as the man that's rooting for her. She's really shooting herself in the foot here. So you know, what good is it getting to the end if you can't pull up the win. I believe Brent will be on tonight to recap the the vixen, and we where we will find out who want H, and I'm I'm expecting a large print rand 'cause he I know he's rooting for taymor. So I'm sure he's annoyed at this decision to win Choate. H h. So. Candy says look if they both go I'm going to be on the block at least as upon like, I'm going to be in trouble. If both Tom and Cato and tamers. You'll maybe we'll go on the block, but you'll stay don't worry. It's fine. Don't worry about it. It's really not not really taking. What candy is saying? She for what it's worth. I don't think candy made a particularly good pitch. This first time she's gonna try again later with a slightly better pitch. But a lot of her pitch revolved around this idea of like, well, if you do this, then I'll be in trouble too, which tamers able to be like well, first of all you're in trouble and second. No, you'll be fine. So so it didn't didn't really work this first time. So she's going to try again later in the day. But for now taymor is is stuck on this idea. Yeah. And that that sort of pitch are really ever work for people that are like in this, you know, in alliance, but like not like if it's solid final two people are more willing. Oh, it's okay. Just chill. Just lay low this week. I'm in control going to be okay. You're not gonna go home on the more willing to sort of roll the dice with your game. Even if they are and alliance with you if it's not a final two. So I mean, I think you just you have to kind of like, you kinda you gotta you gotta work at different angle with with the way team are. Yeah. Early do Lolo Natalie and Ricky are talking about the following the next h they are considering throwing the next one because they have people like taymor willing to do their work for them. So why not throw the next one? And then all be able to compete in the one after that where they're finally ready to turn on those people that are doing the work for them. However, they ultimately decide probably not worth risk here. Just just win it. They honestly after this week. I could very easily see a situation where they just went out from that point on, you know. From from a mental standpoint they have people they've been studying along time, they're certainly capable. And then from a physical standpoint, I think they would just completely. They're all three of them are athletes versus non athlete, so any physical competition is going to be just a breeze. Not that there are likely many of them left. Although we said that in big brother twenty and they were a whole lot of them left. So you never know. And given the fact that they really should have been able to win a lot of ease in the past and avenue and people have still in the house and one we'll keep getting victims. You guys you have any youth? Not win these damn competitions. You are the house like come on like Joe show with what you can do. So at this point like rowing really when the Alliant like throwing the H at this late in the game. Like, no, what are you doing just win the wage retain the power boring for us out here? But once again, this expedited and things. Change quickly, you might as well get as much power as you can sort of the end just your safety at that. At the very least. So Tom Cato are talking again, they they talk about who they would like to see win the game. Now, they're pretty sure neither of them are going to get their Tom says, no Kato, you're going to do it. You're gonna win. He's like, oh, it wouldn't it be great though to see to see DNA win. Wouldn't it be great? She's such a great lady. What about candy? It would be awesome to see candy win. Right. Candy and Dina, obviously, I think just to reinforce the point the biggest jury threats in the game. I mean, they so petty petty like you got beat it's fine. Dana, Dino, really, look, I made the case the other day, I genuinely feel like Dina's playing better game than the rest of them. Because of all of the trash they've been talking like, you just can't expect to win a jury vote when you do that. I mean, I sure sure socially. Speaking is up there. She she's Switzerland right now, I get it. But I mean. Maybe it's just the way that fundamentally to game. I would much rather give somebody the win if they are instrumental in the progression of the game. And it's Vena stole. Deana? But that's one before. So I don't wanna just completely threw a rock bed. But I right now like, they're just they're butthurt. So they just don't want to give the win to anybody else. Because the votes they both have been throwing things back at win and others. So it's like when you get out of the house, and you decompress way, are you still going to go the way or you could go ahead and watch everything these said of just old in your case or to win the game. I don't know. I don't know. You know, it's fine. Brother. So I'm more inclined to be different types of visions being made. But as of right now, I would be kind of wet I will say I have seen arguments. And I think I'm actually kind of on board a little bit here that the DNA. I mean, I pointed this out a while ago. The is is playing like she's playing a floater game. If you watch her in the house, like she has no genuine loyalty to anyone other than her loyalty to Jonathan Jonathan's been gone for a long time. Now, she's willing to throw anyone under the bus to like how intentional it is. Who knows? But she will go to anyone would be like. Yeah, I'm totally going to work with you all the time. And then go to the other side and be like, yeah, I'm totally working with you. And just the fact that she's such a non threat she's able to slide by for a while. Is it is it like great game play. No. Is it? Good game play. Probably not is it something. Yes. And honestly, I feel like with the entire house. I don't think anybody's playing great. I don't think anybody's playing good. I think that all we're seeing in this is something. So if you've got something, and you're nice, I do feel like that for me quantifies a winning game honest, though. I mean, okay. Open to having my mind change. I've definitely as I said on Twitter like this past week. I've been like kingdom hearts craze. Are we so I haven't been able to really notice all of the new ones in being game to me for someone who was sort of like living in an out like, okay? Okay. There's high Beena, okay. Okay. I'll go back and watch this in the end if she does win, and you come up with this brilliant podcast about. You have made. Deana? I will definitely be like. Okay. Like, yes. All hell. Queen Beena the second coming of June. I will definitely throw at her feet. But as the right now, I'm like a little bit skeptical. But at the same time point taken that not everybody's game in this house has been quote unquote, winning games. This is these this particular batch of houseguests are so just like. If it is the top is generally toss right now. And like, I also I completely believe me. I see where you're coming from his. Well, I think everyone knows my stance on. Juries in general and voting based on feelings and all of that nonsense. So I'm certainly open to the other thing as well. Honestly, if if it came down to like DNA, or I honestly DNA or Natalie I feel like. I feel like they both played like and maybe Natalie's played better, but dean has been nicer, and I genuinely could make a case for both of them. Same thing with Dino Ricky Lolo I think's genuinely genuinely has not played well enough to win. So mad. I did not get her in my it's making me. So mad everything that I wanted. No to be Natalie billion that spot right now. On that one. All right. So. Anyway, Tom Cato are going to go up on the block here. They are nominated by mar and Lolo Natalie Ricky are they'll agree Kato is going I know change there. We gotta get rid of Kato. Yep. You're in the course that if she even wanted they should we leave the nomination same. So in Spokane one of the two is definitely out of leaning more towards palm is that the correct assumption right now if they if if cater wins. No it. Oh, if if the both of them are still in the block the catering to go first. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We'll go first. Ok well, that's great. That's good for my draft. I really did not do. Well. Around. I look I've got people to chat like, no Taryn. We're not here for DNA win stuff. It's like listen. I'm not saying I'm here for Dino win. That is not what I'm saying. Put him saying is if she won I can understand why I actually do feel like she like if anyone deserves. I don't think anyone deserves to win this game. If we could just stop it now and say, no winners, I'd be totally cool with that. I don't think Hugh has played well enough to win this game. Yeah. As far as I'm said. Like, yes, sure. Sure. I don't think that DNA is I'm with you chat. I don't think that should either. But look at what your options are. Secondly, happened so far. Okay. I mean, we have the historic low in terms of average ranking on the stock watch for these people. It's just you know, it's not exactly a strategic cast here. You gotta take. Here's my here's my advice for watching the season is just like don't care about the strategy and just feel free to root for whoever you want to root for and just have no qualms about it. Just like, you know, what I am one hundred percent. Edina, STAN go for it. You can be super pleased when Dina wins, and nobody can tell you that she didn't deserve to win. You know, what you can even be a lo-lose, Dan, go for it? Do whatever you want because this is just a free for all at this point. It's so strange because if it'd beginning of laugh, even we got the on the live in the Pete tragedy making a lion talking who was next to go around. They pull them not to do that. Been like neutered or something like didn't allow them to talk strategy. And it didn't even know and they were allowed to when they weren't allowed to talk strategy. So it's like they'd never got never got the practice. Now, the running them up just like going based on promotion and. Hilarious if you're someone that's more strategically inclined. It's probably just wanna rip your hair out. But I I've been. Regained. What I can't met. All right. So Tom Cato who talked a little bit about like, okay? If Cato is do stay if we win h next week. They are starting to plan. What do we do what we do if we h next week? Tom is considering like, okay? Well, we need to target obviously. That trio. Should we put Rick? No, you know, what we should probably do because Ricky's probably the one most amenable to some kind of deal. Right. He's the most like he's the least sort of I talked yesterday about how I feel like if anybody is doing this mean stuff with any sort of strategic intent it's Ricky, and so I do feel like it's this is correct call with Tom even even if there's not like a ton of success that they're going to find trying to make I do feel like Ricky is the correct wanna try to make a deal with. So he talked about potentially try to make a deal with Ricky leave him off the bloc will nominate Lolo in Natalie. And then try to be like, hey, Ricky, will it will work together? Secretly, we will take out one of the one of the women, but we're still good. And and maybe there's a chance that he doesn't come free. The next week. He certainly capable of winning competitions. Again. I actually feel like short doesn't have much of a shot to work. But in terms of like what else do you got? This is probably one of. Plans. You could come up with. Yeah. I mean, you go for the gophers someone actually actually can we talk about the fabled crack in the alliance Ricky's definitely someone that if he isn't cracked yet, you could potentially crack seems like he's open to making deals. He's open. Obviously, he's open to spilling, tea and information to sort of get even the people on his side to do what you want. So. Yeah, I think it's a good. I think it's a good shy. And I think if they're talking about if they aligned with him like going forward, you know being able to use Ricky as a means keeping them safe. Like, I think that that's a good. I think it potentially work. I mean, whether or not Ricky is going to, you know, being that he's in a spa. Maybe I don't know of Ricky has gotten to the point where he's like I'm good now. I'm good. I'm good for the rest of the game. I've made the Streisand and needed a cement. It's like, no matter. What I would not be the ones who go home. If you feel that way. Tom, and Kate or Esa will if not then this could potentially be that point in the game. Like that like musical theater. We have a thing called the ten o'clock number where things just like hike up again. It's could be that point into game where it's like up big. Switch twist. But I, you know, we really have to hope that the tonight whoever remains of Cato Tom win the because I mean, I candy would certainly I think do as well or DNA, but they're given the track record. I think whoever remains of tomor Kate or more likely to win the wage. So I'm definitely pulling for that. So we get some kind of shakeup here. But but honestly, I feel like if if let's say Kato stays, let's say he wins the veto. And then wins the age and then tries to make a deal with Ricky. I feel like Ricky might be like kind of annoyed because he's Ricky about like, oh, man. We lost the power, whatever. But if I'm Ricky, and I feel like there might be some strategic part of him. That's like this. I'd be pretty pleased with the fact that both of the women are going on the block and Natalie would probably go home leaving me and low low as the final two contenders. Like, oh now is not gonna take Natalie. She's gonna take me, and I'm gonna take Lolo. I definitely Lolo. I'm actually kind of okay with this. I'm definitely gonna make deal with UK toe, and then definitely stab you in the back next week. But I'll definitely be okay with what's happening right now at some point. You gotta get you. Gotta get your stand with twine on long. There's not me. I'm good. And you wanna you wanna you wanna get between the two between like, you know to power players. You wouldn't be in that middle spot where it's like. Okay. Well, let them go at it. And you know, if I get the power one if he's going to be mad because I'm gonna make a decision that's going to screw one of you know, matter what I'm going to be, you know, it's not going to be pretty, but it gets me further. So. I could see that happening as well. So we also got again candy pitching. Mar finally a little more effective. This time really just pitching the women need to be targeted. This needs to happen in. We're just gonna let them win the game. They're just going to steamroll and she's starting to break through little bit today. Mark, I think taymor says something along the lines of like, I mean, if I did make a move I would have to talk to Tom and Kato I before I made the move like a veto was used or something that, you know. Yes, if vetoes used you should put Natalie on the block, we can get rid of Natalie. She's I I really do feel like candy has some influence here, maybe because of things outside of the house more than strategic things, but that's still something. And so it's definitely possible that something happen. Although thing is as taymor mentioned. She would have to really talk to Kato and Tom. I that alone would probably not go very well. But also the veto is going to be played live tonight. So there's not really a lot of opportunity. She can't go to them with a backdoor plan before they even have the veto because that could really blow up backfire. So even if one of them one's Vitas probably not enough time to put together, some kind of backdoor Natalie plan. But but I'm mentioning it here because the seeds were planted as unlikely as they are if for some reason Nattily goes home tonight in the first division or not there's two victims. But if Natalie goes home tonight, then this is probably why you you have candy to thing to think for. Something happened along the day or potentially in the in the time between the veto win and the RENAMO, but like I said, not super likely. Yeah. I mean, if not unprecedented decisions that we audience does not get to see how those get made. You know? Not new so definitely if that were to have been video, you'll have everything that you need to understand what the hell happened. And if not then, you know. You know, it is what it is. I'm really hoping that. I mean, honestly say that I was really hoping veto wasn't one of the crops you like last time. But honestly like. Like, oh my God point. All about like team fund is I'm all about that. So, you know. I mean, I would like to see what the vita they usually do on the nations where the run go and sit Bob pay grabbing styles come back and hit the hit the buzzer. Yeah. I I'm for any competition where you can tell what's going on when they when they're more when we're watching live like that's why I know some people weren't a fan of the fact that it was a crap shoot last time. They did the veto. And it was a crapshoot, but I enjoy it because it's like I can very clearly see who's in the lead. And what's happening? The even like the famous clown shoe competition where the running back and forth like it's still hard to tell what's happening in just like waiting for somebody to run back. And it's like how many times did they run back there? Okay. Something that's like, slow paced. That's very visual that you can see. That's that's what I'm all about for these live competitions. But it's usually something that's not quite that. So, and I know I know that's just my opinion. It is what it is. I mean, it'll be it'll be fun regardless. I'm just I'm glad that he gets actually watch this live when I've been working like the pets do so on that front. I know. I know. Something that Chad says mentioning a puzzle. Let's all comment on. Let's not do that. Let's let's not bring back any memories. Although I will say it was very easy to watch the show. I'm gonna say. That's gonna say though, easy. Sorry. East to understand definitely hard to watch. Yeah. There you go. That's that's good. So that's what we've got for. You. Tonight's episode will consist of the H competition, which I believe was some kind of knockout. I think so we'll see that that. Yes taymor is going to win. Then we're going to see the nominations, then we're gonna see the live veto and then the live vote and Vic division, plus exit interview. So I very much doubt that there will be too much juicy nece in between really getting lean lean cuts of the big brother celebrity this season right diet feed, essentially. You know, you want the full picture PBS Alexis. Or spot cast. Right. Alright. So that's what we've got for today. Anything else that he wanted to bring up on? No, I'm I hope. Everyone's been into this thing. It's been great. I've been having a great time. I'm just happy that everything is working back up. Again, we're gonna be getting survivor again. And then big brother Canada, looking to be really, really good. So I'm just as always them. I'm glad to be here. All right. So you can follow some Twitter. Emma, Armstrong, Taryn Amman is that Amman Adnan. Amman Edwin on right? You can find me on twitch plan kingdom hearts. Three Amman is way ahead of me. You can find Tarrant on twitch playing kingdom hearts. You'll probably also find me in the Chad working high three because I have been playing too much the Macaire to admit I'm gonna break watch them other people play a little bit. Can we get a king of hearts three update from you? What sort of? Let's just say this. I am. At the point where the conclusion of this dog is imminent. I will go I've been through pretty much all of that. There is go through. Haven't been most of the collectible. So I think we're gonna go back into all of those. Well, it's to prolong this, but I've been like an emotional right playing this game. And I'm like, I can't get the because I need more time of digest. So we will of course, be live tonight to recap the eviction and veto and h wage competition. So make sure you tune in for that. And I will be back tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds as well. As tonight with the new HR wage that will be crowned and everything going around that. So thank you for joining us. We'll see next time.

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CBB2 | Monday Morning Live Feeds Update Feb 4

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CBB2 | Monday Morning Live Feeds Update Feb 4

"John. Big brother. Yes. Drama strategy in standing. Sees. No. Roseanne that he could do to Morrow. He will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed up date for February fourth. I'm going to turn Armstrong. And with me today is the magnificent math local magnificent. Hello. Hi, tehran. Hi, everyone viewing rate to be bag. Everyone's been enjoying celebrity big brother to been pretty wild ride us far. And I think all of those that were like waiting for dramatic build season got one that you are like living in relishing very moment. Because you know, this is as much as the feed keep cutting and don't they put all this stuff in the episode? Just take it for what it is. And be grateful that we're even getting live entertainment. Yes. We are here to talk to you about everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds it was bit of a slow day here. So it's gonna be a quicker update. There's I think more drama in the sports world and in the big brother twenty world than there was in pay for the celebrity last night. Oh, yeah. So no way gracious fool boy. Oh boy. So let's talk about the feeds yesterday as I mentioned was very slow day. However, we started the day with lots of stuff that wasn't important, but we also had taymor Natalie Lolo and Ricky talking about candy that they feel threatened by candy. They feel like she was trying to help Kato in the H competition. So they wanna make sure that Kato or that candy is also on the hit list soon. Yeah. Getting to that point of the game where you know, you just need to find any kind of reason to get rid of people, even if you've been working with them to a certain degree. I mean, I know that like pay Marin candy have been sort of like, you know, making up after quite a motorist relationship in that house. But at the same time you really got to start thinking about your any game. And is somebody that you really think that you can take the end does she have the most winners equity right now is she kind of like the most liked in the house, or at least the least disliked in the house. Can you win a vote against there? And I think that. I, you know, whether or not it's about her helping Kato or if it's about low feeling that she will have the vote in the end because she's been popping off when everybody as much the point the finger at other people kind of remains to be seen. But I mean the point of the game where you got to really start thinking. Hey, is this somebody that I can get to the end is it? It's getting down to the wire. Yeah. My favorite my favorite current subplot on the big brother celebrity to live feeds is Natalie and low low talking about how other people won't have jury votes to win the game. I mean, this is gonna draft with them friends. And I was I was really really hoping like my perfect team in my mind at the time would have been Jonathan. Kato and Natalie, and I really really wanted Natalie because I was like I was battling with the two of willower Natalie. And I'm like, I really didn't that Lola's mouth when to get her in trouble a lot more than Natalie. I think that out of anybody out of the two Nelly definitely is the superior player because he seems to reserved a little bit more thankful for she speaks. But I mean, I two of them they really they really really should not be talking about anybody about these because you have been running around this house. Learn about like. Come on talk about self awareness. Yes. We did also get Kato, and Tom I mentioned yesterday that Tom was trying to maintain a positive attitude, but then after his conversation with Ricky and tame mar about how they need to apologize because they're they're misogynists and all of this stuff. Tom's sort of interest in the game has been waning. He is talking about kind of like if I win the veto. I'll just use it on the UK toe and kennels like, oh if I wouldn't veto all use it on you. And they're like, oh, no, no. I wouldn't let you do that. They're just kind of like, oh man wonder when do we leave again why? When do we stop being accused of things that are going to ruin career, right? Definitely like hard to sit there, and you know, kind of be N power, and the people that you were against sort of gaining that power then it's kind of like a swallow. But one thing that I noticed I dunno civically with older Cass or just, you know, we've been getting so much drama. It's more notable now. But I just feel like they get straight down to the game. They're playing hard and in a minute like. Like there's like opposition to them. It's like they kind of just shut down. And it's like, okay. Well, if they're like who good of sports at the like, oh, well, you know, like you guys got me like, we were you. But it's fine. Like I want to keep fighting come on. There's a one of you will say one of you will state's gonna have to