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"K C. B s b a radio dot com Rewind. Bay Area traffic slowing it down. We'll get you through it. Nobody navigates the Bay Area better than the traffic leader. All news 1069 and AM 7 40 KCBS. We're here for you with the facts. Of course, The biggest contributing factor is because oil prices happened down and straightforward news coverage as well as a price war that's going on between Saudi Arabia and Russia. All news all the time right here on CBS. Hey, CBS NEWS Time. 8 42 K. CBS's featuring Bay Area heroes who are working to create positive change in their communities during the Koven 19 crisis in this week's KCBS Difference makers reporter Carrie who dissects spoke to to Fremont teens who started a project to thank health care workers in a unique way since the start of the covert 19 outbreak, doctors, nurses and other health care professionals. Have been putting in long hours while wearing face masks and other protective gear to help save lives. That burden alone inspired Washington High School students montage in probably Lama to show their appreciation by writing. Thank you cards really prompted us and told us that we had to do something to tell them that we're so grateful for everything they're doing. The brother and sister duo pulls their project cards for covert heroes. They collect handmade cards from their local community and send them to hospitals along with gift cards. Our main goal of this project imagination the fact that we have heroes that are working on the front lines to save my and During the time of uncertainty. No one knows what the future holds. Part of their inspiration to give back comes from their religious beliefs. We are sick Americans, so one of our core principles of the religion is there with me self service. So far they've collected over 200 cards that include messages of gratitude were asking for people to write on a cart on the card is maybe one or two sentences. Because what the health care workers really need during this difficult time, just a few simple words of encouragement that can help them get through their difficulties. The LAMAs have placed a drop of box outside their home. They also give people the opportunity to mail their thank you cards to them or make an E card. What we hope to do is deliver the hospital's outside of California. And also involved community members who maybe can't come up here to top up card because if they live far away, they can't drive all the way to Fremont to drop off their card to get involved. Visit their website at cards for covert heroes dot com. Montage in probably Lamba making a difference.
Elizabeth Wetmore: Valentine
"Today. I'm very pleased and excited. My favorite thing on bookworm is when I'm talking to a first novelist. And it someone whose work I have not previously known my guest on the show today is a booth wet more Beth wet more. Her book is called Valentine. It's published by Harper and it's novel. Beth. Wet more is fifty three years old and this is her first. Book, she's published many short stories in many of the best literary journals, the Kenyon, Review Colorado Review but this is her first time in hardcover. Tell me Beth what feel nights is finally see the book in hardcover. Well. It's all been a little unreal honestly. I worked on the book for a long time and I was ready to have the editor sort of wrestle out of my hands. Honestly I think if if she hadn't wrestled it out of my hands, I'd probably still be tinkering with it to tell you the truth and even now I occasionally spot a sentence or a paragraph that I think, Oh, I'd like to have a do over on that. But on the whole, it's been wonderful and surprising to me I think I. Expected The book to come out very quietly and and so it's been. Marvelous to see how many people have reacted to it in such a positive way and how meaningful it's been to some people. Yes the book has made its debut as number two when it came out on the New York Times bestseller list and it's set where Beth was born in West Texas in Odessa. Now, if you're me, you think Odessa that's near where my family come from in Russia this is Odessa in. West Texas how does it get its name? Well it depends on who you ask You know the they're part of Texas was settled pretty late in the early eighteen eighty s and depending on on what piece of local you believe it was it was named Odessa in part because of the sort of grasslands that that people said resembled the Odessa in Ukraine. And and and that's really been the most sort of certain story I've heard. No was Texas. is known for its. Economy. I'm sure most of my listeners will know this but what is an oil patch? Well. Odessa is in the Permian Basin which is about eighty, six, thousand square miles inside. So and and of course, West Texas and. is is even more vast right than the Permian basin and it's an oil and natural gas rich region of the country I read recently actually that actually until the until the pandemic, it was on pace to outpace Saudi Arabia for the biggest production in world in the next five years That's slow down and been derailed a little bit by the pandemic of course but it's so an oil patches you know a a part of the world where that is the single economy oil and natural gas. It's not a particularly pretty place in the world at least not by most people's standards I think it's beautiful. There's no other way to make a living out there other than working oil and natural gas and Odessa where I grew up on differs slightly from it sort of sister city, of Midland, which is about twenty three miles away in the sense that Odessa's a very working class town most of the people who live and work in Odessa do the. Blue collar work of the oil patch. So they work is the roughnecks and pipe lawler's and fitters and water haulers and That's still even today a pretty male dominated industry women in that part of the world tend to work in support roles as bartenders and waitresses preschool teachers, teachers, that sort of thing So that's where I grew up.
Fresh update on "saudi arabia" discussed on Howie Carr
"Would ever think even possible because he's following the radical left agenda. Take away your guns Destroy your Second Amendment. No religion. No. Anything hurt The Bible hurt God. He's against God. He's against guns. He's against energy are kind of energy. I don't think he's gonna do too well in Ohio. He's against the ideas against energy toe. He wants to shut down fracking. That's what's made us the number one producer of energy in the world again. You know they don't. They don't want the endless interventions in endless wars in the Middle East. The best way to avoid getting into these wars is to be energy independent. I mean, if we don't need the gulf if we don't need Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, I mean so what you know, and the other thing about it is they hate Russia so much. What is Russia? Somebody said recently. It's an armed gas station or heavily armed gas station. So if if they're getting their gas from us than I could be getting it from the heavily armed gas station in Europe, so it it hurts Russia for us to be so energy Independent and so productive the most productive nation in the world when it comes to energy. And he wants to end that he's promised to end Oh, that's nothing has changed on he said. He was going and fracking and now, he says, I never said that. So he just keeps changing every every day till he took the test, but he didn't take the test. Yeah, He's a He's the funding the police. He's not for defunding the police. He wants to shut down fracking. He's not for shutting down fracking. Imagine if Trump Was Flip flopping. Oh, no. Excuse me, It's not flip flopping. He has a nuanced approach. He's growing. He's involving 844 542 42 2 of seven says the cardinal. Let Hilary take Communion at Fat that East Funeral Mass. She's not even a Catholic. She's Methodist. Don't have anything against Methodius. You think she's a good Methodist? I don't think so. I don't think so. 844 542 42. Nick, You're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, neck. Hey, how you d remember the impeachment hearings and when the when the ship Had his hearings They brought in a couple of shop shooter prosecuted right and you know it and went really time on these people, right? Why? Graham doesn't do that? Because Sally Yates is either incredibly stupid. I see is a fraud. I got with both of those as I was going to say I can I take I'm sorry. I know. I know. I said I saw. I admit I wanted to take both to neck. You know, she is in this. That's the same law firm that Rosenstein is in and the Christopher ray from the F B. I used to be. Talk about a sleazy place. She was coming 20 consecutive months and she said she knew nothing of what was going on. Give me a break. He was hurt. She was his direct report. She was a deputy attorney general, and they did three dozen unmasking between election night. And the fateful meeting is Obama hat again in January, and she she's got to be kidding. There was no conspiracy, and she's defending Obama. And yet she didn't know it going he's doing we think about that, Howie. Well, I mean, obviously, she knew what was going on. And if you know if she if she forgot all the stuff that she claimed she forgot it. The hearing yesterday after Comey Uh, forgot 240 plus times when he was being Ah, Questioned under oath in Congress, I think they better They better do some testing on that building made must be something in the pipes there. You know it could Worse than asbestos, destroying people's minds. There are all these people are going to turn into Joe Biden not gonna be able to remember anything. Thanks for the call, Nick. Al. You're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead out. Hey, You got to get a job. I brake there. The reporter said that he was a practising Catholic. Practising me. Just got right yet. E sure hasn't gotten a righty. Yeah, you know. It was Mike Pence, who first said this thing. I think it's an old Midwestern expression, he said. You know about Donald Trump, he said. You can't fake good kids. That's true In my In my estimation, that's a really accurate description. You could fake a lot of stuff. But you can't fake good kids and Hi. Joe Biden's kids turn out. Yeah, I thought it's Yeah. It was a rhetorical question. Talking about erectile dysfunction isn't easy. Usually we just brush it off or blame ourselves saying things like I lost my mojo, or we avoided altogether with excuses like I had a long day at work or sorry, honey, I'm just not feeling it..
State Department watchdog resigns after less than 3 months in office
"Stephen A. Card has resigned as the State Department's internal watchdog after less than three months on the job, A card took the position in an acting capacity when Steve Linen who was investigating Secretary of state Mike Pompeo was fired. His last day is Friday. Ah card will be replaced by his deputy, Diana Shaw. Washington Post cites an internal memo saying a card is returning to Indiana to take a job with a law firm secretary. Pompeo has snide linen was fired because he was investigating a deal to sell arms to Saudi Arabia without congressional approval. Rachel Sutherland. Fox is taking a look at
Fresh update on "saudi arabia" discussed on Talking Tesla
"The where were under the words fly under you fly under things the radar. Thank you. Thank you that's what yeah. There's a new space race in the moon is sort of back in play. But clearly, the big thing that people are going for his master's yet to have Saudi Arabia channel US private corporations going like. Mars is where it's at. This isn't this is a level of flying around in the universe that we haven't seen in fifty years. This is the new space race. Everybody's trying to get the and put up the flag. And also to a lot of different Stroyev's to grab the metals that are on them. I mean you know some of these asteroids are made completely a nickel and you remember Tesla earnings call just what two weeks ago just before our last show yuan said, we need nickel nickel. If you mind Nikko will get all your nickel. Well, you know if you can land on a asteroid or yeah big asteroid that's like whatever billion tons of nickel and just chip it often bring it back down might be cheaper than trying to dig the stuff out of the ground here and more environmentally friendly. And we are like having a real nichols shortage like I go into all the stores and their data nobody has any Nichols This There's no nichols anywhere. It's like I went to to Von's and no no nichols and no no. No. Nichols. At whole foods and I was like well along was really like people must have just been sending Ilan has nichols after he made that announcement. So actually I watch the Tedtalk a couple of years ago maybe five years ago. The scientists was saying. The ability to capture small asteroids and bring them within Earth orbit so that you could mind them again sort of sci-fi stuff. And he said. Yeah like this, some these rare earth metals that are really communist steroids. If you could actually grab one of these things, bring it, close to Earth and then send spaceships and mine it and bring it back to Earth. You'd be kind of rich editing I leveled which has never been seed before trillionaire would not begin to describe you could be, and again we're just at this threshold with this stuff could be possible like we need a lot of nickel. There's an asteroid over the we starting to get to the place where we could start mining that and bring it home. It feels like. Aliens we're going to start mining. The universe and bring back some slimy guy that has acid for. Blood Rogo. Right because that's it goes back to my whole thing about are we going to be checking the whole? Stuff that's on this thing before we bring it back all of a sudden you but you've got sort of asteroid nickel and they bring that over to the old gigafactory and turn it into twenty one seventy cells you're driving around on thousand little. Pieces of who knows what kind of alien space creature and then all once they just come out of the batteries and well the. Fallout shelter that almost certainly none of this nothing alive is in any of this nothing what? It's just uh us. You think. Literally. It's just us. There's. There's a there's a definite possibility. And I certainly hope but there's a definite possibility there is life, but I think the elements for life. A very complicated and you have to be in the right place the right time. And in L., solar system it is. extraordinarily. Many solar systems away mini hundreds.
Inside Jordan's Fight to Tackle COVID-19
"Finding who you looked countries where they were hardly any cases and you didn't have to be very far for that because his thank Louise where you're based in. Jordan. How have they been so successful in containing the outbreak Will they credit this success to a strategy that put public health I above Any economic considerations. So what they did was very very quickly seal their borders and they imposed one of the harshest lockdowns in the world they say that by acting so quickly and in such draconian. They managed to jump on the cases that were here deal with them while not allowing any new cases into the country. Jordanians were pretty happy with the result because if you look I'm on now it's a strange little oasis in in a very weird world I mean. Things back to normal here. Life has kind of gone back to the way it was before the virus accept the fact that the border shut how many people have lost allies to covid. So Jordan had just over a thousand cases and eleven total deaths I spoke to the prime minister about this I listen. Has. Very Open, question. Jesus making very much. He said that the country's health system could absorb maximum one hundred and fifty, two hundred cases a day. That's the capacity of the country's healthcare system and the worst case scenario they'll planning for was six hundred new cases a day as it happened the worst day was forty cases. Gosh I, mean Eleven deaths us here in the UK, not is just a startlingly low fake The Jordanian Prime Minister Muscle very confident about that result. He does being a reporter I've kind of code around a SPEC into labs and people who work in this space and they say it checks out like if this were out there if this were spreading, we would probably know about it. We'd say some evidence of it and that just isn't there. So it it looks like they can credibly claim. To have defeated this thing for now. Has the Jordanian economy also avoided hit the others around the world of taken in recent months unfortunately, it hasn't. So Jordan's employment rate was estimated at about twenty percent before this crisis that's very high. Now, labor analysts is claimed could go as high as as thirty percent on the other hand the Jordanian prime. Minister says that because the country with it covert so well, it was able to attract investment that might have gone elsewhere. So a lot of garment manufacturers, for example, felt that they couldn't safely work in Pakistan or dash they shifted their orders to Jordan where they knew that the industry was up and running and it was safe spite of all the mess. Covert created comic. what was very Pleasantly, surprising. Is that. Investments have coming into Jordan exports. Went Up. Indicates how much stabilities worth the world today that's how Jordan is is going to sell itself. Now, it's going to be safe Cova destination. It'll be an island of stability in an unstable world. And it wants to maintain that stability Jordan was career, put its airports today to a few selected countries with low transmission rates like Canada and Cyprus, but this has now been delayed clearly, the prime minister Mera's has apprehensions about opening up children. He said that you know looking around the region you've got Saudi Arabia next door terrible outbreak. Israel another big outbreak, Syria? Idea really what's going on? He said he would be a foolish not expect. There's going to be a second wave and all the planning is that there there may be one. Okay. What is the not if when next week? But he said the country's ready, they fortified the the health system. They've got these different safety regimes in place in the region and knowing that you have. Million Jordanians or living overseas or saying we want to go back because vaccine might be. Six probably nine maybe even more months away. The country cannot afford to just stay sealed off from the world. At some point, they're going to have to make the same calculations as a country like Portugal they'll have to figure out how they can live with this virus. You know it is. It is very. Very loud that we actually in Jordan, lease off the kissing. Yes. And eventually we did stop the. Just in the last week. Yeah it's hard to maintain that discipline when your numbers are. I guess. People feeling relaxed. Tax, which is good interest, but it struck me that if more cases do grow here, it's going to be a stretch for people. It's going to a a real labor to relearn all of these habits to sort of learn again to save risk everywhere because you know for the last few weeks, it's been the opposite we've people have been actually learning to relax and. Embracing that very enthusiastically.
Fresh update on "saudi arabia" discussed on Worldly
"Welcome back worldly listeners we have been talking about the recent hits to the international arms control. Agreement regime the way that we prevented nuclear weapons from spiraling out of control. Specifically. Focusing on agreements being the United States and Russia which have made up the backbone a lot of a lot of the international arms control architecture. One thing we've been alluding to, but but haven't really spelled out or the ways in which This is particularly dangerous rate and You know have been emphasizing the risks of nuclear war are low and they are but the problem with nuclear weapons. Is that they really creates incentives for side to go first attempt to crush the other side's nuclear arsenal. And and because you know if you don't go first than you might get crushed in advance. And you might not be able to retaliate particularly effectively. So that's why their nuclear weapons on submarines called second second strike capabilities to ensure that even if you're ground-based nuclear weapons get destroyed that you still have a chance to retaliate therefore deterring anyone from trying to launch a first strike. Again, the question is whether or not that's sufficient to deter some kind of first strike. And under what circumstances you can imagine an incident between let's say the United States and Russia escalating into a nuclear conflict even though nobody directly wants one and that's why you need things like if not overflights than certainly some means verifying and understanding what the other side is doing. That's why you want to have agreements that limit the types of weapons that can be developed. In order to prevent weapons that might make one side feel like they could be more advantaged in in the case of some kind of nuclear between the two sides and so all of these different agreements work on pieces of that and as they unravel the risks of some kind of exchange between the two countries, let's say Putin decides he wants to test. NATO's resolve by sending. Little Green men, that is to say unmarked soldiers into a NATO country like Estonia well, there's that that's a functionally given the way. The NATO works attack on the United States, and so the question is that in that sort of scenario, what are the steps, the mistrust and the the lack of communication and the lack of transparency surrounding nuclear weapons that could lead the two sides escort, and that's why I'm so worried about all these cumulative developments again, there may be an individually defensible rationale for scrapping. Let's say the. Open Skies Treaty but in. A World War. Were eroding trust between the two sides roading mechanisms of verification. The worst case scenario starts to become more plausible and again still really unlikely but given how significant the risks that we're talking about our that really scares me, I don't know about you guys but I. I'm concerned. Yeah I think it's it's really worth noting when you're talking about the importance of these these mechanisms and how these arms agreements work. So new start went into effect in two thousand eleven and as of mid July two, thousand twenty. So as of The middle of last month the US and Russia had exchange more than twenty thousand notifications with each other about the state of their nuclear arsenals. That is so many. And it just kind of goes to to really illustrate like this isn't just like. Once a year. We send each other a memo on where nukes are like. This is very serious. Anytime we do. You know any sort of. Movements or adjustment to our nuclear arsenals. We notify Russia so that there isn't any sort of. Confusion or miscommunication. Or miscalculation, and so like these are very real tangible things that are involved in these agreements did not just like theoretical likely pinky promise to not do nuclear things like they're very. By. The way I worst pinky promise ever. Off. But in all seriousness, the these are real mechanisms and if these go away like we already have. So much tension with the US and Russia right now. Just imagining the kind of miscommunication that can happen is really scary and that's why these sort of these sorts of mechanisms are. So absolutely critical. Yeah. I. Mean I think the most immediate consequence and we're seeing now is that there could be an arms rice after all this right. So if you remove the limits on the kinds of missiles and weapons that you can develop. We'll then countries are start and building or revamping those kinds of missiles and arsenal. So you see Russia right now working on hypersonic missile whether or not. It works in close to working as a separate issue. It also claims its nuclear powered, which is like scientifically really hard to produce if not impossible. The, US military has recently shown off a hypersonic missile and those are troubling because hypersonic missiles very hard to interceptor to act quickly. Yeah. No exactly they go. So fast and cruise missile fly so low to the ground that like the you you can't stop. Again missile defense that we've talked about on the show is is effectively shooting a bullet with a bullet while one of moved too fast and is undetectable at ball's probably gonNA hit its target. So, there's that you have trump wanting to invest more nuclear monetization following the Obama Administration's lead on that. You have China to building up its military in its nuclear arsenal and it's other conventional missile capabilities and nuclear missile capabilities. in order to fend off the United States in deter aggression, and then there's there's a deal that if that exists, it's it's called the. Which the non-proliferation Treaty Bat And there's a deal at the heart of it, which is that the countries that have it's the fiftieth anniversary I bet like now. And there's a deal at the heart of it, which is the countries that have nuclear weapons like. Started declined their numbers. And those that don't don't seek one well, if you remove the limits. To. From countries that have nuclear weapons and they start developing more, then you may have other countries go well, I wanted to and so a lot of this is not just like the politics of the US Russia or US Russia China. A lot of this is the signals that nuclear having states send to non-nuclear having states and other countries in the world going like, hey, this is a norm here in the world that we have nuclear weapons. We know it's bad for doing our best you know limit them and sort of dismantle them slowly because you can't just of do it all for myriad reasons. But if that's ignore has gone, then you kind of have a free for all. Yeah and that's I. think that's a really important point because the it helps move us away from just the US Russia and to this kind of broader global you know conception of of how we think of nuclear weapons and how countries see them as important or not important to their international security and it's really scary. Just this week the Wall Street Journal had. An exclusive that China is apparently helping Saudi Arabia develop these uranium ore mines that can be used to mind yellowcake, which can then be eventually processed and potentially used a nuclear weapon. Now, it's not news that China and Saudi Arabia have agreed to work together on on nuclear issues but you know this is kind of a another development in that kind of space and you know Saudi Arabia says, look we just trying to diversify our energy portfolio right? because. You know nuclear energy is a thing. It doesn't necessarily mean that you're willing to make nuclear weapons. And Saudi. Arabia has for a long time said that it's going to diversify its country to be not so reliant completely on on. The problem is that when you you know that that may sound reasonable on face like, oh, it's just for nuclear energy. That's fine when you look at it in the context of the US pulling out of the Iran nuclear agreement right and and the possibility of Iran going after nuclear weapon, you then see it in the context of a broader regional arms race where well Iran gets the bond so Saudi needs to get the bomb. And also have kind of this broader issue of proliferation and so having their breakdown of this kind of global norms around. The commitments getting rid of nuclear weapons rather than getting more of them is really really we're in a very tangible way immediately right now it's also worth noting that a lot of what we take for granted about the way that we can talk about nuclear weapons is actually pretty contingent and could could change pretty rapidly..
Going old Turkey: a regional power spreads
"A decade ago, Turkey's Foreign Minister Audit of Attalou used to boast his country was on good terms with everyone police fantasia want. less confrontation, less tense attitude. Especially, in the region, he spoke at the Council on foreign, relations with the will of the principal. In. Two thousand three. Zero problems with our neighbors. And the made a huge progress. All, that now seems a distant memory Turkey is growing its international influence and not always with a light touch. The country has been backing Libya's government in its civil war. Last month. The Turkish Defence Minister landed in Libya to inspect his troops and opposition warlord warned them to get out or else. Turkey prompted an angry statement from Egypt last week by allegedly planning gas exploration and Egyptian waters. And yesterday Turkish officials railed against an American company for its dealings with ethnic Kurds in neighboring Syria. That Turkey believes to be terrorists. To some, all this adventurism is reminiscent of past chapter of the country's history when the Ottoman Empire ruled all of Syria and far beyond. Turkey, has been playing an especially prominent role in Syria since protests spread into a full blown civil war. Turkey has really become a meshed in Syria since the start of the our spring, the uprisings that took place in two thousand eleven across the Middle East it back. The Islamist. Movements that initially took to the streets and then took up arms. Nicholas Pelham is our Middle East correspondent. But as those fighters were false back towards its border, it's really stepped into try and protect its southern border, stop any more refugees coming into the country and to provide some sort of safe zone for the proteges, and it's also very nervous about the current state law that emotion the northeast of the country. It feels very threatened by the emergence of Kurdish power on the southern borders, and is it reasonable for Turkey to think that those Kurdish forces are really a threat historic? The have been links between the PK, the cuts down Workers Party, which has been waging a thirty five year a war for. Autonomy and separatism inside Turkey. Many of those fighters did flee sought refuge in Iraq and in Syria, and so Turkey is worried about what it sees very much kind of PKK influenced state emerging on its southern borders. So this year it's been launching pretty heavy attacks inside Iraq, it's been sending tanks across the border. It's established positions inside northern Iraq. It's been carrying out drone bombardments, such two hundred kilometers from its border in Saint, John More, Kurds all the way along its southern border inside Syria inside. Iraq see a new Turkish assault, which is pushing deep into their territory and not just unsettling. Kurdish aspirations for sovereignty in Iraq and Syria, and this is also unnerving Arab leaders as well. Who Turkey pushing deep into territory, which was part of the Turkish Republic predecessor. The Ottoman Empire, which ruled the Middle East centuries until its dissolution about a century ago, which is to say that Turkey is expanding its influence is doing this adventurism beyond Iraq and Syria all over the Middle East of the moment. There's a this year has seen the new intervention of the Turkish, Army. Libya. They came to the rescue of the besieged government of National Accord. In Tripoli, which has been fighting a civil war against a renegade general. Khalifa. After Turkish forces established at base on the borders of Tunisia, we're seeing it's frigates make a bid for control of looking coastline and even ward off French frigates. We're really seeing a substantive increase in Turkish. Power across the Middle East and it's not just happening in Liberia. It's happening in Gaza, which is an ally of Turkey. Turkish forces there have tried to help. Cut Break Its blockade by Saudi Arabia they're. A. Few hundred to a few thousand Turkish forces that are they're wasting more Turkish interested in Yemen civil war. We're seeing interest in a Sudanese port and actually Turkey's largest overseas basis in the point of Africa. So really this is a massive increase in Turkey spread across the middle, East and do you believe that the the the Ottoman history plays into that as a return to former glories? In some way? It's very much the in the rhetoric certainly saw Mr. Osman tropes at the at the height of the Arab spring wanted to appear to be the leader of the Muslim world. He was promoting his version of governance across the region hoping to clone the Turkish model across the Middle East. But since the collapse of Islamist movement since its as from power in Egypt and the retreat of many of its forces, he's really kind of played much more on Turkey's national interests. He's ally domestically with what had been his nationals opposition. He seems to be much more concerned on trying to maximize Turkey's economic claims in the. The Mediterranean this since much more about promoting Turkey's national interests than flying it systems colors. This is really an exercise in in hard power and trying to exploit the weakness of others, the retreat of Europe and America from the Middle East. The policies of many Arab governments, and try and push Turkey to fill what seems to be a vacuum of power across the Middle East, and so is that push to serve Turkey's national interests working is, is it benefiting from this from this expansionism? If you're trying to put together a balance sheet of profit balance sheet? Sheet Turkey has benefited from Khatri investment cutters, loans, and investments have helped prop up the Turkish lira. It may be that country's also hoping to fund part of its military costs in Libya Turkeys, keen to promote its companies when it comes to eventual reconstruction of war-torn Libya, which after all is energy rich state, and so long term, there may be benefits, his critics home highlight, the cost it's estimated that Turkish operations in Syria have cost anything up to about thirty billion dollars, and of course, there is a threat that you're going to see a major escalation. Escalation in the Middle East, which could embroil Turkey. It's not just Turkey is entering the middle, East enforce. It's also Russia. Many Arab states are trying to gain Russian support to push back Turkey, not just Syria Egypt the United Arab Emirates looking to Russian support in Libya, and Egypt is sending its tanks to the Libyan borders. The UN warned that the risk of a of a regional war focused on Libya and beyond that that risk was huge. So this is a massive gamble and it looks as if the stakes are going to be increasingly hyphen
Fresh update on "saudi arabia" discussed on Houston's Morning News
"The bottom of the hour. The latest going on. You got to know what's happening. I need to know what's going on. It's crazy. What's going on every day on NewsRadio, 7 40 I freely admit I'm a big fan of Dr Robin Armstrong. And I'm on my show Yesterday afternoon on AM 9 50 KPRC. He's more than willing to stick his neck on the line. To tell you what he really thinks about Hydroxy Claure Quinn. He's used it very successfully to treat nursing home patients. He's a believer in it. And He's also by the way, a firm believer in Why people like him and other doctors who believe in Hydroxy Clark win have been censored. Here's what he said yesterday about that there is a significant financial big pharma has a lot to do with this. They are systematically using every means necessary to censor physicians who we're talking about. What is a potential game changer in this pandemic, People are actually were have been censored. And there's do not talk about her toxic or quit this medication that no one is going to make any money on it keep its inexpensive and frankly, if we started to use it worldwide spread, we're pushing now to make it over the counter. That's the big one. The big push with frontline doctors ah week ago is to make it over the counter so people can make their own choices about what they They wanted it over the camera in many different countries, and it has been for some time. Ironically enough, it was taken away in France early in January. You know, because because we think big farmer you know, didn't didn't Didn't want it out there, so I think it was a lot. There's a lot going on. Ah, Big Pharma. In addition to politics, in addition to the media, in addition to the FDA and the Texas Medical Board, or restricting, it's used like a combination of those things taking place. Is making the words they do not want this drug out there. Well as we've been saying, there's no real money to be made from it. That is the biggest problem. And who is connected to big pharma and other potential drugs and treatments. Well, some names you for before, like Dr Fauci. 7 26 Our time your news radio 7 40 Katie Time to take a look at your money. Courtney Donna has enough days would get ready for another Wall Street open. Yes, we do. Good morning, Jimmy will moments from now the weekly looking jobless claims economists are expecting another week of disappointing numbers. The estimate is at 1.4 million new claims have been filed two headed that stock index futures are lower. Right now. Dow futures down 82 points curd right now. Lower $41 a barrel. Saudi Arabia cut oil pricing to Asia for the first time in four months, says OPEC eases self imposed limits on output. Saudi Arabia usually sets the tone for pricing decisions by other Middle Eastern suppliers. Cloud service provider Rackspace Technology suffered the worst trading debut of the Year. Texas based Rackspace closed in its first day as a public company yesterday, down 22%. After raising $704 million initial public offering and Wells Fargo extending its work from home program until at least the start of October, saying it doesn't know when it will return to traditional operations. I'm Courtney Donahoe Bloomberg Business on NewsRadio, 7.
Ballot blocks: the squeeze on Hong Kong
"The squeeze on political freedoms in Hong Kong is ramping up and fast. On Friday, the territory's Chief Executive Carrie Lam announced September's planned elections would be postponed for a year and poss- sediments. I've always had to make difficult decisions but then the announcement I have to make today is the most difficult decision that I have to make in the. Insisted, the delay was only to avoid the spread of COPA, nineteen. The decision to postpone them the training train t electrical election has nothing to do with politics has nothing to do with a likely outcome of this round of. PRO-DEMOCRACY PARTIES, AD HOC for success in the poll riding a wave of discontent at Beijing's recent imposition of sweeping national security law. The legislation broadly defines and harshly punishes subversion sedition collusion with foreigners. Nathan law one of Hong Kong's most prominent pro-democracy activists recently spoke with our sister podcast economists asks why? Phones. Movement is still really strong though there have been protests against the new law. The millions of people who wants surged onto the streets have largely stayed home is police have cracked down harder just try to imagine if you live. In a country place that that is no freedom of expression freedom of them fraiche ethan freedom of thoughts. Then definitely, like protests does not exist or will be lushly quashed earlier last week, twelve pro-democracy candidates were banned from running whenever the elections happened. On Saturday, on Kong's police issued arrest warrants for six political activists living in exile in the West. Since the promulgation of the national security nor on July the first of the scope for political expression has been very much. Dominic Ziegler writes Banyan, our call him on Asian affairs. And because of that, there haven't been any street protests. of any size since July the first because of the consequences. For those taking part. But nevertheless, there has been widespread concern about postponing the election by a year, the Bar Association, representing senior barristers and other lawyers in the territory has expressed what it called grave concern and it said that a decision to postpone September's elections for the Legislative Council, which is known as Mexico was undermining a vital constitutional rights and so what does that mean in practice? What happens with the sitting lawmakers? There are all sorts of implications about what it. Means in practice because hitherto Hong Nor has been very clear you have to hold elections for this quasi-democratic legislature every four years. So the government of Kerry lamb, the chief executive is in a bit of a pickle about how it justifies this. Although she said, it was for reasons of the pandemic several other jurisdictions have been able to carry out elections, and that includes recently elections. In Singapore, there are certainly suspicions that the decision was taken not because of. The pandemic, but because Democrats had a good chance in fact. Gaining for the first time a majority in this rather gerrymandered council and indeed even obstructing a government policy or criticizing the government has it has been suggested by the authorities the risk of falling foul of the new. National Security Law. So this decision is absolutely shot through with politics, but nevertheless to take some finessing by the government. To show that the move is legitimate, the chances are that how it will manage that is to get a ruling from on high from Beijing saying that this is the appropriate course and it's worth bearing in mind that Beijing has always since Hong Kong's return to China. Has Always had the authority to intervene in Hong Kong's has the understanding would be that this would happen only rarely. But in the last few weeks, we've seen it happening time and time again, I think this is going to be the practice for the future. But what about the the the candidates who were banned from running here is, is there a risk that that Beijing will start to essentially stack the LegCo with with loyalists there in this interim year? This certainly is a risk Jason the bear in mind that all the moves around legend. have been made in order to ensure that the pro democratic camp does not secure a majority in the legislature. Now early last week, the authorities did this by disqualifying a dozen also candidates caming that even for criticizing the National Security Law that gave the government grounds for not allowing them to run. Now, a few dozen candidates actually sit in the current Legislative Council. So one big question that the authorities have to find an answer to is whether those four legislators continue to sit in a council session is is now being extended by a year. The chances are that the government will find means to disqualify. Those four and Beijing's moves go further than that. Recently, they're speaking of arresting pro-democracy activists outside of the territory, which is also unusual. That's right has happened in the past week on July the twenty ninth four students were detained for supposedly inciting secession. This seems to have had something to do with facebook page and shortly after became clear that the police had put on a wanted list, a number of activists who are currently in exile. So, there is an example for instance of how China intends for this new national security in order have jurisdiction beyond the borders of the country itself. These people were in the United States, the UK and elsewhere. One of them was not even a Hong Kong citizen better taken up US citizenship and so as as Beijing's hands gets heavier in Hong Kong Antoine Indeed all over the world. How are people coping normal life goes on so far as both the virus and the new political restrictions allow what is certainly happened is that the street protests that so colored and royal the territory last year are now very much a thing of the past. So the act the concerned the worry that. Has. Taken hold in the territory is one that is not always voiced publicly but in private conversations and the concerns really are about Hong Kong's long-term future. One of the possibility is certainly that many people discussing is immigration and a number of countries have. Roots towards long term permanent residency or even citizenship. Those countries include the United Kingdom Australia Canada, the United States. But many people are not in a position to leave immediately. But what happens now with all of the momentum that was behind the protesters but this whole movement now that protests themselves have died down to the protesters are moving abroad. What happens now it looks like well, over half of Hong Kong's population is in favor of democratic change but the possibilities for that through politics and through the ballot box have been very sharply restricted in in recent weeks. So there's a conversation emerging. About what form opposition should take? So people are starting to draw parallels with the Eastern European bloc during the Soviet era too many people here the national security nor is starting to look like the Ray quick building of the Berlin Wall in the early nineteen sixties and people are drawing comparisons with opposition in the decades following that in eastern Europe and that opposition took perform of underground dissident, it took the form of dissident writers and The church played a big role in eastern. Europe. Some hope that it may do here in Hong Kong one positive sign has been taken from last year's protests is an extraordinary. Creativity in in the form of protest art in the form of. Video making. So the hope is that maybe these avenues might at least allow a civil society not only to to hang on by its fingertips but also to grow. Don Thank you very much for your time fact Jason. For. Inciteful pair of interviews about Hong Kong's politics. Look for our sister show the economy asks my colleague and mckelway spoke to activist Nathan Law and to Regina Yip a Pro Beijing member of Hong. Kong's cabinet who said it's the activists themselves who bear responsibility for the mainland's latest moves. It's their choice they had. A goal on the provost part to self-destruction you. Choice. To want to commodes a separatism. From China I. Feel sorry for that. All the problems that they face now are of their own way. No. In fact, they are true young they are too young to commit judgments on these fundamental issues. Why should they be involved in promoting separation from China? Why should be that look for the Economist asks wherever you find your podcasts. Today more than ever. 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There is a scene that played out almost every day for weeks for months outside of the Ethiopian embassy here in Beirut he would see cars pull up and drop off their passengers if the OB and women who were carrying their possessions and suitcases are in bags. Great girls from is our Middle East correspondent based in Lebanon these weren't women catching plane or catching a train. They had nowhere to go actually word maids, domestic workers whose employers. Could no longer afford to pay them because of the economic crisis here in Lebanon also couldn't send them home because the airport was largely closed because of covid one, thousand, nine, hundred, and so they dump them off outside the embassy they simply left them there to be someone else's problem. You would meet women who said they'd been sitting there on the curb for days on end using their bags as pillows simply left the fend for themselves. And isn't that kind of a general comment on how Lebanon treats migrant domestic workers? It is even before cove in nineteen. Before the economic crisis, there was widespread racism and harsh treatment of migrant workers here there are a number of cases where Lebanese have advertised their maids on facebook as if they were property, there was a post back in April that offered a Nigerian made who was described as being very active and very clean and she. was being sold for one and a half million Lebanese pounds, which is worth about a thousand dollars at the official exchange rates. There was also a clip that was circulated widely here in Lebanon in June it was from a television channel in Ghana that covered the return of two hundred or so Ghanaian citizens from Lebanon most of them. One, hundred, eighty of them were women working as domestic workers here, and they described horrendous conditions and treatments. Fit. After that sexual harassment. They bit s like animals. I have videos of this. I went through in that country and they also warned other people not to follow them to Lebanon not to come here to work. No. Doubt Music and go back to Lebanon is not a country that we should be. How does this situation come about? Where for instance, an people find themselves trapped with arguably abusive employers often starts with unscrupulous recruiters are agents migrants who come here to other countries in the middle. East. Are often promised good salaries, respectful working conditions and they arrive and find out that it's anything. But but then they find themselves trapped for two reasons. One is they often have to take out loans to pay fees to these recruiters and the loans can run thousand dollars two. Thousand dollars which when you're making only a few hundred dollars a month and you're trying to send much of that to your families back home it can take many months if not years to pay off those loans. So they find themselves trapped by debt. They also find themselves trapped by something called the Catholic system, which again exists here in Lebanon and many other countries in the Middle East whereby migrant workers are bound to their field or their sponsor, and so they can't simply. Changed jobs because their residency in their work permit is connected to their sponsor, and if they leave that job, they have to leave the country. So you meet migrants who say despite the awful conditions they're making more money here than they would make back home, and so they're willing to they're forced to continue to put up with US conditions because they're blocked from finding another job, and so all of this is a function of how the Lebanese feel about migrants or is this. Strictly a racial thing. It's hard to separate the two because almost all of the migrants here are either from east and South Asia or from Africa. So it's often connected to race as well as their status being migrant workers but the racism here it cuts across socio-economic lines I spoke with a black diplomat too says been pursued through upscale shopping malls Lebanon by security guards thought she was a housekeeper and they wanted to know why she was shopping without her madame without her employer. So Racist, certainly a problem here and in other countries around the Middle East and not only when it comes to migrants states across the Arab world have black minorities. You have Egypt for example, the Nubians who have been there for thousands of years you have in the Levant and the Gulf states black communities that are often the descendants of slaves taken by Islamic empires or the descendents of African Muslims who made pilgrimages to places like Saudi Arabia and decided to stay again, those communities face various kinds of commission as well. Would you mean by that? Will you hear some of it? Simply in the language that people use darker skinned people referred to with terms like opt, which means slave Anwar Sadat was president of Egypt darker skin than his predecessor was sometimes referred to as his predecessors black poodle you turn on the television in the Middle East and black face is fairly common sight on Arabic language television and no doubt that kind of racism manifests in in everyday life in lots of ways, it does you see it in areas of life. March choice of partner you have families that will see skin color as a marker for Associate Comic Status Lighter skinned people seen as being wealthier and more educated. You see it in the workplace as well in Iraq, for example, where there's a black community that has been there for at least a thousand years they to this day struggle to obtain government jobs and they're often relegated to doing menial work and living on the outskirts of society. You see it as well in the Gulf states where there's almost a racial hierarchy to employment. If you walk into a Nice Hotel and the Gulf you might see black migrants from Africa working as security guards or as porters. You will see them far less often in jobs that require interaction with customers. Waiters hairdressers, things like that those jobs which are better paid than less taxing often go to lighter skinned workers from Asia or from Arab countries I mean racism has been very much on the agenda over the past few months because of the the killing of George Floyd protests that erupted across the world did that wave of protests hit the Arab world as well? The protests themselves. Didn't reach the Arab world. This is a region fortunately protest often a criminal offence of we didn't see much in the way in street demonstrations either in solidarity or around the region's own issues with racism but it has certainly escalated the conversation that's taking place both online and offline. There was a video that circulated quite widely earlier this summer was shot by a Palestinian actress condit's. Who recounted some of the just casual bigotry that she's heard and day-today Life Semis Ben Aston Headache. Mariam. People often argue that it's harmless. It's just words. And allow. Them. One of the points that she was trying to make in this video is that it does hurt people and that it does have an influence not only on the targets of it but on societies broader attitude towards Black Arabs, and do you think having these kinds of discussions on social media and the like will make much of a difference? Is it enough having a conversation about these? Things is certainly better than nothing. But one thing that we've seen certainly in America through years and years and years of protests against racism and police brutality is that just having a conversation doesn't actually bring political change or social change. That's something that takes a long time and it also takes concerted effort in politics and education, and unfortunately one of the problems in countries across this region. Is that there are few avenues to do that, and so it's good to have a conversation about these things but. The ways that you actually go about making concrete change. Unfortunately, those ways are often blocked in the middle. East. Thanks very much for joining US greg.
One of the Biggest Tekken Tournaments of All Time Never Paid Anyone
"Well over a year ago in March of two, thousand and nineteen, a series of East sports events were held in Khobar Saudi, Arabia including. The True Gaming Tekken invitational this single tournament featured a prize of one hundred, ten thousand dollars USD, which was then the single largest prize pool in taking history for a little context, the two thousand eighteen technical tour finals at a prize pool of Twenty Five K. and Evokes Tekken Prize. Pools are even lower than that and heavy hitters from around the world came to participate. In this thing, I'm talking to likes of Don's knee Chanel. Roma. Are Slash you get the picture from a production standpoint the true gaming tech invitational grave they had an awesome stage set up the stream quality was good. The had commentator and analyst desk great camerawork was clean and in terms of the actual game play competitively, the tournament was great i. mean we saw some of the best players of all time from all around the world give us some unforgettable moments. But after all that confetti was cleaned up after the stage was dismantled in after the community's attention shifted to other events there remained one big problem. Apparently nobody paid. Now this all hit the public's attention in a big way only recently when tech master provident fighting game player and one of the invitees to the gaming tech invitational tweeted about not receiving his prize money from a different event that was organized by the same people. Now, as far as the true gaming tech invitational goes the one with one hundred, Thousand Dollar Prize Pool I talked to tech and master about it, and he said that communication between the players who are owed money in the company who produced the event true gaming hasn't exactly been productive when it comes to when how or infant if they'll get their prize after one month. A number to contact with and every time the new right it's. Like on the process of giving you the process guys. we'd be coming back to you on. Data to and every time like the guy is saying, he did not receive any funding for the first. He's promised to receive it a next month. Don't want everytime delays rate rate until. One year happened instead even. One year under half extra. Here's the thing though true gaming say that they were hired just to produce the event and that the prize money has nothing to do with them at all I managed to get in contact with a guy named a Med almost STAFA. Who is the head of business development at true gaming and he says that the true gaming tech invitatinal took place within a larger event called. Gamers con. He told me that the owner operator of that event, a company called. Tail Events Exhibitions Management Co is responsible for the prize money we correspond over email about it and let me read to you what he told me quote true gaming's role in the event was to operate the competitions and gaming centered activities that have relied on our gaming industry knowledge and know-how. Our team has been contacted by the winners and his forwarded their grievances to k all A and have shared all contact information directly Takeo so that there is a direct. Line of communication and no delay caused by layered communications in the later email he also told me quote we've tried to finalize this matter on numerous occasions. We were even under the impression that it was going to conclude a sooner time and we are completely taken aback by how all have. Let this drag on for so long and quote worth noting here that shortly after I got in contact with gaming, they released a public statement about the matter that was. Very much in line with what they told me privately as far as this K- All events exhibitions management company goes that's where the trail goes a little cold for me I tried calling them with a number on their website and for me it didn't work I tried tweeting out I've emailed them and I tried to use a contact form on their website that is broken apparently so far as of the filming of this video I haven't heard anything back from them. Hubbert. Ladies Tom. Blood I can mean a look at a High Horse Shukran your call cannot be completed as dialed. Please make sure you enter the correct number. It's probably also worth noting here that there were a bunch of other invitational tournaments that took place on the same weekend within this gamers con that we're all organized by true gaming there was rocket league invitational. There was a beep invitation on their Mash Bros invitation and like I said, they were all organized by true gaming who seem to be a company who do everything from eastport centric youtube videos to mainstream game reviews to event production. Now, let's just back up for a quick second. Because there are other entities involved in this issue beyond just the players true gaming and this K- All events and Exhibitions Management Company, and I'm talking about agencies for the Saudi Arabian government see according to Tech and master about six months after the event when it became clear that they weren't going to get their prize money anytime soon, a lot of deep participants in the gaming, Tech. Invitational. Got Together an organized to try to figure out what their next steps they went to a guy who goes by the tag burke came and he contacted to Saudi Arabian government agencies namely, the General Entertainment Authority in Saudi Arabia and more pointedly. The Saudi Arabian Federation for Electric Intellectual Sports see the true gaming invitational had to be sanctioned by these bodies in order to put on their event in the first place and as to who this Berkane guy is. He is a Saudi Arabian eastport seen community leader and individual player manager who has served as a sort of go between between the players, the T os, and the government agencies that oversee East sports in Saudi Arabia and he told me that he's been in contact with those government agencies and they are actively investigating this situation. As we speak I have conducted the federation on behalf of some of the players and they. Did investigate the issue and I believe they have officially contacted all the parties involved in this case on soon, they would return resolve at least from where I'm sitting it's not going to be easy to figure out who's actually on the hook for this money according to Tech Master Burt. CAIN and some other folks I spoke to nobody actually signed any kind of contract or documentation that stipulated how when or I guess technically even if they would get paid out this prize money according to Burke Cain East sports in Saudi Arabia is still very much in a phase where contracts are not the standard sports itself and Saudi is still new. and. It started based on community efforts where almost everything was based on trust. That moved along when he sports stuff to grow on many companies started to throw big huge ovens. Everyone trusts what's being advertised after all the low in Saudi will hold you accountable for what you advertise. Let's say trust is what? being practiced here in Saudi I do believe that should change and perhaps tap. Last year will rise the awareness in the community
Apple is now the world's most valuable company, dethroning oil giant Saudi Aramco
"Stocks gained. An Apple became the most valuable company in the world as its stock hit another record high, closing up more than 10%. Apple dethroned Aramco from the top spot. Saudi Arabia is national oil company
Locked Down in Switzerland and Belgium
"Start with Stephen mcfeely he operates being be on Ireland's dingle peninsula in just before the pandemic head Stephen an interest in the hotel Oberland in October and Switzerland that's where he's had to ride out the first few months of the global lockdown good and. My goodness. My Irish friend is learning Spitzer dykes. Good here in the Alps where I've been for four months. Now in splendid isolation, my plan originally was just to come for February and March, but I've I'm still here right well, what does the vibe in Switzerland right now there's a positive vibe. The society is reopening. Tourism travel has started again just no we're on the same level as it was before we had two weekends where there was crazy crowds here huge big crowds from all over Switzerland everybody who was here was from Switzerland or had to be from Switzerland. They weren't necessarily all Swiss because there's lots of international people living in Geneva and Derek and whatnot but everybody from within the barger of Switzerland over with crowds, and then it just died and Monday to. Friday went back to being really really quiet. Okay. Well, this is sort of the very beginnings of the rekindling of tourism I would imagine it'll be people traveling with within their own countries first, and then traveling within Europe, and then finally international travel and transatlantic travel. Yes. That's exactly what we're seeing. The borders here have just reopened. So we're expecting Germans and some Austrians and maybe some French to come now also, I don't anticipate huge numbers like that would have been heretofore. One. Very noticeable thing in the Valley of course, there's no American visitors. As you know, the valley also is very popular with. Chinese travelers Indians many people from Dubai and Saudi Arabia would come here and they're not here this year. So there's a noticeable difference there. So the people getting the real cultural change would be the French speaking. Swiss. German speaking part of his Switzerland and not even leaving their own country exactly. Fifty percent of our guests. Last week were French speaking Swiss and it was the first time I've ever actually met those people and I would say to them. Are you French Swiss would say no, no, we are. All MOM and so I I learned something new immediately the K. The identify as swirl. They were saying exactly what you just said they said it's like we are in a different country it's very dramatic here it's different toossion either those on the do shut down it was really cool. They were very excited to see a different part of their own country. So that was wonderful. Now Stephen you own a hotel in Ireland in Dingle Peninsula and now you own a hotel in Switzerland in Loudoun valley two of my favorite places as a businessman working in both these countries how do you compare the support getting from the government and how the two governments are dealing with this crisis? Well, the difference is. Very. Big. I'm still on team. Ireland. So I want to be positive about my own country, but there's not a lot of support coming. Heretofore in Switzerland for example, within two weeks of the crisis occurring. The. Swiss Federal Council which is the Swiss government offered ten percent of the previous year's turnover and So that's quite a considerable amount of money and they offered that as a loan which was repayable over seven years. Zero percent interest. So they're not looking to profit from it and in Ireland we really struggled to get some assistance. And we got ten thousand euros of overdraft line of credit and but repayable at seven and a half percent interest in Switzerland. We got three hundred thousand. So it's quite a big difference there no-interest at all. No interest at all. Of course, Switzerland may have much stronger and deeper reservists than Ireland, but they were able to immediately come up with assistance very little bureaucracy paperwork, and they immediately got to help us in Ireland. The experience was just simply much different to the government really weren't as proactive for as immediate as were here in Switzerland. The roots here what's around her a lot less strict as well There is a two meter rule here, but I haven't seen anybody wearing masks very much, which is kinda shocking for me because I know in Ireland the whole north of is people should be wearing masks. People definitely are observing social distance. One of my friends said to me that the two meter rule has actually brought Swiss people closer together so. That is so insightful to the Swiss society. It's more difficult thing. It's more difficult thing for Irish people or Italian people are Spanish. Two meters distance than it would be for this people or maybe the. Scandinavians. I can see by home people are wondering. Is the Irish pub culture ever going to come back the way it was with social distancing whereas in. Switzerland. Here for me like I'm I'm in the Alps I'm surrounded by fresh air and. Of of lovely space and it's been a wonderful place to be stranded, I don't even want to complain about it because although I I was stranded here for four months. It was the perfect place I felt very safe. I might have felt different if I was in the middle of Zurich or something or Geneva but I felt very safe. I'd in the Alps and it is lovely and peaceful and quiet, and of course, that's what people are coming here for anyway
LEC Announces Sponsorship from Saudi Arabia's NEOM and Quickly Retracts
"League of Legends European Championship or C. announced a sponsorship from meal a new futuristic city plan by Saudi. Arabia. Why is a city sponsoring in East sports event? You might ask a great question, but it definitely didn't go as planned because after a day of internal and external outcry riot announced, the sponsorship would be cancelled. So what is NEOM? It's a project from the Saudi, Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salaam, whose goals to build a futuristic mega-city. They'll become a hub for tech in tourism on the coast of the red seat, the project is estimated to cost five, hundred billion dollars. The. Saudi crown prince is a controversial figure for a number of reasons in the West. The murder of Washington Post was Jomo. Kashogi is one of the most notable. The city is also controversial for the displacement of tribe about twenty thousand people currently live in the area of the plan city. The Saudi government has been accused of killing people who speak up about the plans for the new city. Finally. Saudi, Arabia's history of human rights issues. Especially, the people who identify as lgbtq stands in stark contrast to the pride themed logo and the company's statements on inclusivity. Many LGBTQ members of Right Games spoke out about how the sponsorship defies any stay admission to align with the. Lgbtq community that includes many of members of the ilise own commentating staff after a day of outcry which many people inside and outside of Right Games chastised the company for this decision. Right decided to remove the sponsorship. Still plenty of damage has been done a few days ago. Blast premier. A notable cs go competition also signed a sponsorship with NEOM as a recording that sponsorship is still in place.
Pilgrims pray on peak day of hajj in shadow of coronavirus
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Unable To Travel To Mecca, Muslim Community Holds Drive-Thru Hajj
"The hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia. It is, of course, a year like no other in Saudi Arabia is limiting the annual pilgrimage just to people living inside the kingdom. It's a disappointment for many American Muslims who are planning to go from our member station. W M. You Daniella chess low reports on a community in Maryland that held a drive thru hodge instead. Loudspeakers blast prayers on a hot afternoon as Mona El Dada watches her 77 year old father. He's copying a ritual known as Walking around an eight foot tall black cube. That's a replica of the Kaaba shrine in Mecca. El Data tells him he's doing it wrong. No, daddy. The idea is that the car is actually going to do the show off Dr Hardy Ra Nama relents. He's done the really pilgrimage to Mecca three times. He remembers a sea of Muslims from all over the world, all wearing the same white clothes. And so nobody knows, but they pulled the rich whatever equality 100% and that is the beauty of today, Hondas and Tesla's drive around the Kaaba. It's not a substitute for the haj, which all Muslims must try to make in their lifetime. Mona El Dada is creative director at the next Wave Muslim Initiative, a group in Montgomery County, Maryland. The pandemic ruined her pilgrimage plans. So she suggested to her colleagues. How about a local version of Hajj by car? I was telling them it's it's kind kind of of like like the the way way that that in in the the wintertime, wintertime, there's there's Christmas Christmas light light shows shows and and all all you're you're doing doing is is kind kind of of looking looking out. out. From From your your window window At At Sandy. Spring Friends School, L Dada greets drivers moving along a short track. At one station, A boy in a green shirt leans out of a white minivan to throw pebbles at a cardboard pillar. That's to evoke another hajj ritual casting stones to drive out the devil. The boy introduces himself as yes, scene Y Es e and asked me was conned by kind of forgot His dad, Faisal Khan says he's been avoiding mosques because of the pandemic. He still wanted to teach his two boys about the holiday. Definitely much more safe car, not close, Tio bunch of people, So it's really nice what they what they did. Levee
Yemen's separatists to give up self-rule, and push peace deal
"Yemen's leading separatist groups, as it will abandon its quest herself Rule in order to advance a stalled peace deal brokered by the Saudi You element of conflict and complication was added to the turmoil in Yemen in April. In the Southern Transitional Council proclaimed self rule in the south. It appeared to be the final breakdown between the STC and the Saudi led coalition fighting Houthi rebels Further north. A decoration also highlighted a growing rift between the key coalition partners Saudi Arabia and the If this new power sharing deal holds, it should allow the coalition to refocus on the long running war with the Houthis but also potentially being a step closer towards ending the
Very different, symbolic hajj in Saudi Arabia amid virus
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Very different, symbolic hajj in Saudi Arabia amid virus
"News. The annual Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia is underway with drastically reduced numbers because of the corona virus pandemic this year, only around 10,000 people, all of them Saudi residents will perform the five day ritual always screened and quarantined in advance. Our religious affairs editor Martin Bashir, reports. Last year, more than two million Muslims circled the Kaaba in Mecca, the most sacred site in Islam. But in June, the Saudi Arabian government announced that no foreigners would be allowed to perform the hajj. And that residents aged over 65 or with chronic illness should also not attend the restrictions of not only impacted worshippers. They've also hit the kingdom's income. The hardest Saudis second largest source of revenue after oil, contributing around $12 billion
Very different, symbolic hajj in Saudi Arabia amid virus
"News. The Corona virus strikes again. The huh, JJ, which starts tomorrow will not allow the normal gathering of more than two million Muslims. The annual pilgrimage to Mecca is known for teeming masses of people who walk closely together, sit shoulder to shoulder to pray. And often campout and crowded tents. But this year, only an estimated 1000 people are expected to attend. Physical distancing will be enforced and masks will be required. Bloomberg's Saudi Arabia correspondent. Vivian Knee Rhyme has been covering How, huh, JJ will be different this year. She joins us Now. Welcome. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. Can you just start out by reminding us what the religious significance of the Hodges for Muslims all around the world, So the Hodja is one of the most important act that any Muslim might perform in their life. It is considered to be one of the five pillars of Islam. It is actually obligatory for every Muslim to perform the hajj once in their life, if they're able to financially and physically, so it's something that people save up for and apply for again year after year. Well, because the Saudi government is determined to make sure people are physically distanced. This year. You estimate that only about 1000 people will be in attendance tomorrow. So how are these 1000 people selected like where they from? Yeah, So one thing that had been a little bit strange that the government has been a little bit secretive about what the actual number is this year, the hedge minister has said it's between around 1000 and 10,000. We do think it's going to be probably closer to around 1000 and that includes about 30% Saudi nationals, and the other 70% are foreign citizens who reside already in Saudi Arabia, so nobody will be performing. The hajj is here coming from outside of the kingdom. They were selected through an online betting system. Most of it was about health criteria. You had to be between the ages of 20 and 50. You had to not have any chronic diseases. So everybody who was selected among the pilgrims did get a PCR test for Corona virus, and then they were isolated during a home quarantine for about a week. After which they travel to Mecca, and they've been in a hotel quarantine sort of isolated individual hotel rooms for about four days now, so they haven't even really met each other. For the most part, they communicate over WhatsApp, you know, they get their meals, the room service. It's a very different experience than it would be in a normal year when you're kind of a human sea of people from all over the world, gathering and eating and praying together. Besides, they're being dramatically fewer people this year. How do you think the high judge will feel different compared to years past? Well, I think it's just a completely different animal in a lot of ways. I mean, normally a huge part of going to Mecca and performing the pilgrimage is just that rubbing shoulders with people from all different social classes and all different nationalities. Obviously, that physical closeness has completely gone, so there's going to be social distancing markers around the Grand Mosque to ensure that people are actually you know, 1.5 meters apart, so that's a very big deal. There's also a point in the pilgrimage win. Welcome to be gathering pebbles, small stones along the route that they throw at thes three stone pillars that symbolize kind of repelling of evil, and these pebbles this year will be distributed to them in pre sealed packets, and they're sterilized, So it's a very different kind of feel there. They're also wearing these tracking bracelets insure that they complied with the quarantine, and if they stray more than a certain distance from their phone kind of urges them to reconnect to their Bluetooth, a lot of technology that's infusing this year's hajj in order to Kind of enforced that social distancing and make sure that the House doesn't become a super spreader event because Saudi Arabia, like a lot of other countries, has had a couple of different peaks of Corona virus cases, which are now on the decline and Mecca at one point was really the epicenter of Saudi
Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.
Saudi King Is Said to Have Successful Gallbladder Surgery
"Moving onto Saudi Arabia. King Salman is spending some time in the hospital there this week Saudi state media report he had surgery to remove his gallbladder, and it was successful nothing life threatening, but whenever an eighty four year old national leader is hospitalized for whatever reason it raises questions for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Those questions about what a possible succession might look like the World Sharon Jafari reports the modern day kingdom of Saudi. Arabia was founded in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty, two, and since. Since, then it's been ruled by the same royal family succession has mostly gone from father to son or brother to brother eighty four year old King Solomon took over from his brother into fifteen. Joseph Russell was the US ambassador to Saudi Arabia back then. Oh, yes, I got to know him very while this describes Kim Samoan as educated Matt. It says the king loves to read to his grandchildren so whenever he went back to New York while says he would buy books as gifts for some on. In the old culture of Saudi culture books never had pictures. That's because the ultra conservatives in the kingdom considered images to be un-islamic, so made sure I brought books a lot pictures. One time was false, as he brought by another bound copy of one thousand and One Nights, a collection of middle. Eastern folktales, and the king loved it. At the opportunity to work with online, I grew very fond of him, but while Kingston Mon- might be the most powerful official in Saudi Arabia. It's his son. Crown Prince Mohammad Bin, Salman who runs the kingdom on a day to day basis. NBS known is next in line to the throne. Nowadays, the process of succession is overseen by a special group of authorities yes-men. Faruk is with Carnegie in. For International, peace in Washington, the previous king had established what they call the allegiance council, which is basically a counseled from the surviving sons of the funder for NPS to become kings. She says this council would initiate a process for members of the royal family to pledge allegiance to the new king, but right now there's a problem. The Allegiance Council doesn't have had the last one died, and I think the position has been vacant for over two years now and one member at least of the allegiance council is under arrest Prince Amit faulk says NBA has been controversial figure since they want his made it his mission to consolidate power and supply line any potential competitor. Nabil Nura an expert on Gulf affairs says MP's has arrested an intimidate viable members of the royal family also rounded up hundreds of businessmen and activists. He was to show that he is the guy for the position, and he wants to make sure that there are no challenges in his way to the throne occupied. Was it all after. that. The king went to the hospital state TV showed him holding a cabinet meeting from there. That's to show that the king is alive and well, and still in charge, but nobody says it's an open secret that MBA's is actively pushing to become king while his father is still around. Why well a number of things one of them is related to the US actually Hamad bin. Salman wants to make sure that he ascends the throne while president. Trump is personally that states trump has been supportive of the crown. Prince says it's not clear if joe. Biden would do the same besides the American election does also the G. Twenty summit in November. It could be a critical moment for MBA's to show that he is in charge. And some people from the Royal Family might not be happy with Hamad bin Salman, being king, so hammered. This might ascend the throne while his father is still alive to make sure that everything goes smoothly. So where does all this leave the US? Saudi relations Yes menfolk says NBA is a controversial figure in Washington DC. She says it's not internal policies that have raised eyebrows NBA has has been the war in Yemen and according to the CIA or did. Did the kidding of Washington Post columnist Jamal and unfortunately like many things inside Washington there is polarization and the debate is very much politicized, but let me tell you that the concern, the uncertainty about the rule of Mohammad Bin, Salman is certainly bipartisan. People differ on what to do about it, folks. Some things have not changed Saudi Arabia remains a key player in the global oil market and president. Trump has boasted about selling weapons to the king. Now with the possibility of political transition in both countries on the horizon, there are big questions about the future of the relationship between the two longtime allies.
King Salman of Saudi Arabia Admitted to Hospital
"Has been hospitalized. Theeighty four year old king Salman bin Abdulaziz has been admitted, according to state media after suffering from inflammation of the gall bladder. In the latest report, they said only that he was undergoing medical checks. King Salman has led Saudi
"saudi arabia" Discussed on The Amateur Traveler Podcast
"These ideas we hear these things but it's also quite liberal and liberal people there also where women ask me. Hey you seem lost and I was. I was lost Help you which I found fascinating because we had that you like old. They're not allowed in the beginning. I didn't know how to talk to women. In Jeddah is a completely different world than other places. Come interesting that being the gateway city but also having the international influence. I'm fascinated by that difference arriving. Okay what do you expect? But Yeah you arrive there for example cinemas opened up. I think they said two years ago that's started to have cinemas again and one of the first ones was in Jeddah and a lot of the concerts that are happening of big artists. They are injured as well. So there were telling me a Was just there and David Guetta. So that's because it's a bit more liberal interesting. That seems like that's just wrapped up the ten area that you were pitching to me. Is that correct? That's it. Yeah that's correct anything. We want to talk about jeter before we get to some of our wrap up questions. Maybe one thing that I would say Jeddah. There's this beautiful water promenade again. Take a stroll. They're really really beautiful to see big contrast to ultimate besides idea. That's that's one thing that surprised you about Saudi Arabia. I don't want maybe difficult to I think because it is so different than what we Ayoola used to. At least what I was from Germany or Europe. So there's a lot of surprises that you will encounter but the biggest one for me was how friendly in kind the people were. And I've said this before. It was by far the biggest surprise. I mean starting from the box of oranges in the cap to being invited to people's houses for food being invited for tea when they take you out. They don't let you pay for anything even if you try to fight for it is very very kind and welcoming culture and definitely was mind blowing. That really was mind blowing no matter what if a Muslim or not they always tried to treat me. The best could and there was said you a foreigner your gift of God and we want you to have the best experience and therefore me was mind blowing this attitude that encountered from pretty much. Everyone there one time when it felt very familiar completely could have been at home and one time that it felt very very foreign. Okay very familiar. They have all off the fast food chains. We have which actually they have more of the fast which we have in Germany. It was insane Baskin Robbins which I've never seen anywhere else. Outside of the states. They have literally all the fast food chain so when walking around in the modern parts. And you're you're sitting McDonald's. It's sitting in McDonald's in Germany Munich. You have the young Saudis who have the the modern clothing and laughing over the phone and it would be ailing female so it wouldn't matter no bacon no bacon or ham on the egg. Mcmuffin would be different. I'm sure but other than that. You wouldn't find out most foreign. I think most foreign when I was standing in front of the Prophet Mosque in Medina. And everybody was mapping the traditional outfit going into the into the mosque because for me it felt beautiful beautiful experience but out of this world because we always see from TV or you hear about it. So that's when I fell the most foreign unsafe or something unfamiliar. Well you mentioned safe. Are there any warnings that you would give that one thing? You should really know before you go to Saudi Arabia. Good question because I told my family that going to Saudi Arabia and the frustrations like Oh my God is that is it safe like. Are you sure it's okay? It's absolutely safe. It's really no problem at all. I think one little thing to be aware of that. The border to Yemen all the way in the south there could be some issues but overall Saudi Arabia is a very very safe country and really nothing to worry about. It probably would be one of those countries. I would try not to get into political argument. She just have some concerns that way and and there are multiple countries that that would be included in my country. I would try and had to do that absolutely agree with you. Chris and I think it's always you have to separate the people from politics. Also it's two things but yeah of course maybe a side note here. I was in Medina and I was traveling with the friend. I met there and we saw this. Little Hill said okay. That would be a perfect overview over the city. Let's climb up there so we really climbing up this hill and suddenly we hear the sirens and the police. The police the road waving us down and what doing illegal story like. We did know there were. There were no science. We didn't know that we not allowed to go there and there was a little way so we thought it's okay so I think be aware that it can still be a conservative country in a lot of waste and of course you have to be aware of those things but safety wise. It's absolutely found to go in terms of dress code for you as a tourist. Anything that you would advise people different from going to any other Muslim country. Yeah so interestingly. Because they open up the borders Petursson. They got quite moderate When it comes to clothing so for example women. They don't have to wear the headscarf or the long dress. The Abaya but they said okay be decent and respectful usually known as no shoulders. Exactly Sony's no shoulders. If you want as a woman you might WanNa have a head scarf around when you go for example to Medina just to be more respectful. But in general snow sleeveless shirts or short dresses. Even guys no sleeveless shirts to understand what flow is saying here. This is not the place to where your wife beater tee shirt or so. I think there's any places of tourist wearing that Polynesian Eighty. It's very hot country but try not to do that. Because that's probably will get you could get you in trouble or you will get a lot of looks for that but it might make things less comfortable for you and that's and that's really one of the reasons that we want to talk about. Things like warnings is if you're going to go we want you to have a good experience and being more sensitive to the culture is going to help you have a better experience some excellent. You're standing in the prettiest spot you saw in Saudi Arabia. Where are you standing? What are you looking at? I think the prettiest spot I saw was when I was in the middle of the desert in Riyadh close to show the world absolutely nothing around this huge desert this nothingness. It's mind blowing and to think that this goes on for miles and miles and miles and there is nothing that blew my mind. Excellent one thing that makes you laugh and say only Saudi Arabia. When I arrived in in Jeddah the Saudi guy took me out. And he's like he's like I'm GonNa take you to the best restaurant in Saudi Arabia. It's the best thing like all the Saudis knows like. Okay probably going to be good restaurant and you know we went to. We went to allback Albuque- most famous fast food chain in Saudi Arabia. It's pretty much Casey. But I thought that was hilarious in Saudi Arabia. The Best Best Restaurant would be pretty much a KFC. And I can tell you it's fantastic. It's really really good but I did not expect it. Would we drove up to interesting? I remember my guide in Jordan saying that for dinner when they WANNA treat they. Don't go out to the traditional restaurant that would have traditional food because they make that at home and makes that really well and so they go out to Taco Bell and so somewhat. It's it's a treat to do something. Different is probably one of the reasons why it's popular is that we make traditional food at home and so we don't need to go out for that exactly the same thing. I mean it was my for me because this restaurant existence in one thousand nine hundred seventy four did they tell me. It's been popular since then so it very very very interesting but very good excellent and if you had to summarize Saudi Arabia in just three words what three words would use hospitable different and three and you were there in February. We should underline that. What do we say that it was hot is one of your three words so possibly not a place to go in July excellent definitely rather than line I mean I immediately a somber the first day and they were always laughing because they were saying? It's cool right now. So it's excellent. Our guest against has been flu Miller from Munich and flu. You don't have a travel blog that we want to send people to. I started a youtube channel which it's called flow. Nfl Oh if you type in flow and Saudi you probably see a knee roaming around in Saudi Arabia. Excellent that something you will. Not You want to see before you go there will. Then I'll put a link to that in the show notes at amateur traveler dot com and thanks so much for coming on amateur traveler and sharing with us your newfound love for Saudi Arabia. Thank you so much. Chris was a pleasure to review the community. I did WANNA thank some of the patrons who've been supporting the show especially the new ones. We have since the last time we recorded. I'd like to thank Peter Sewer Marshall Denki and also Ryan Miller who raised his pledge. The pledges do help support the show. And so I thank you so much for that. I know that not everybody's interested in doing that. I also not know that never be can do that so I really appreciate that and just as reminder those who support the show through Patriot and we're doing a monthly get together on zoom and they also get a version of the show without ads usually get a day or so early. Colin left a comment about the show that we did recently on Senegal went for ten days in two thousand eighteen and it was a really wonderful time. The friendliest people gorgeous country. Thanks con patron. Jeff's left a comment about the show did on West Virginia at Pipe Stem State Park. You can write a cable car down to the river and walk. The trail into bluestone national river between Fayetteville and Greenbrier is a unique cultural arts and Crafts Center called Tamarack with award winning restaurants and their two additional national rivers adjacent to New River. Gauley and Bluestone. Thanks so much Jeff. And with that we're going to end this episode of Amateur Traveller. 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"saudi arabia" Discussed on The Amateur Traveler Podcast
"The bags back on the road and read. It's real passport. Camera Traveler pursued seven hundred and five today the amateur traveler talks about mosques a magnetic hill and malls Nabataeans hospitality and the edge of the world. As we go to Saudi Arabia. Welcome to the amateur traveler. I'm your host Chris Christianson. Let's talk about Saudi Arabia. I'd like to welcome to the show flow meter. Who's come to us from Munich Germany but come to talk to us about Saudi Arabia flow? Welcome to the show. Thank you Chris. Happy to be here. Saudi Arabia is not a place that well actually. It's a place that a lot of people have gone on Hosh. It's one of the most popular travel destinations in the world but for people who are not Muslims. It is a relatively new destination very true yet. Open up its tourist visa in the end of September so everything is very new. There and for me was the interesting part of really yet. Go to a country where tourism really hasn't been a part of the history in the last year. I guess that answers the question of why you went to Saudi Arabia. Was there more to the story than just it opened up. The opportunity was available. I mean Saudi Arabia. There's so much so much to talk about. I mean first of all landscape. I think we always think about at least to me. It was okay. Saudi Arabia desert oil encampments. That's the first words that came to remind but the landscape boys. There is so much more to see. I mean the Sea of the mountains zero than history wise. I mean a lot of ancient kingdoms coming from there the history of Islam being from there but for me it was one of the biggest reasons why a went to Saudi. Arabia was the hospitality of the people. I heard such amazing things about that. I've been around in the Middle East and I wanted to experience it for myself and as soon as I heard. They opened up the doors for tourists. I said okay. I'm going to jump on that wagon and I want to see for myself to really see how it is. And what kind of an itinerary? Are you going to recommend for us when you look at the map? Saudi Arabia is a huge country. So I always say it's better to have more time than less. But if you have about eight to ten days that should give you a good idea overview over the country so I did it. I'd recommend always starting in Ria. That's the capital on the east side. And then making your way for the West stow after that a Lula which is a beautiful beautiful historic site than to Medina which is super interesting because Muslims go there as well now and then to Jeddah and then from Jeddah head back to Fly Back from Jeddah which options whatever works best for you excellent before we get into that in more detail one place. You didn't name and I WANNA talk about why you didn't name. It is a place that other people might be interested in going. And that's Mecca and there's a reason why you didn't name Mecca and we OUGHTA address the elephant in the room as it were so if he would want to go to Mecca. I'll give you the picture you'll drive on the road and then you see a big sign which says non Muslims go right and Muslims go straight celebrate as a non Muslim. You're not allowed to go to Mecca. And that of course has to be respected now of course if you are Muslim than that's entirely different and you in fact are encouraged or required depending on how one looks at that to make a trip to Mecca at least once in your life if you have the means to do so. So but we're not gonNA address Mecca in this particular episode. We're not going to address going on Hajj because most of the show can't do that so excellent you started us in Riyadh exactly so the beauty of Saudi Arabia is that everything is pretty new so I mean arriving day you arrive at a Super Bowl Airport. I first of all said okay. I'm GonNa take the metro into town so followed the metro signs only to find out that not. That's not billed yet. So that's how earlier wasn't the country so back out of the airport into Uber and into town. We think we always have this idea that Saudi Arabia is a very rich country but maybe a bit old school. That definitely didn't find that the case Uber which works fantastic they have all the amenities modern buildings amazing and paired with all the history that comes with it and there was amazing for me on firsthand arrived in the country. I get into Uber. You drive into town takes about forty five minutes because traffic is crazy and we start talking and suddenly he stops and he gets out of the car and he comes back into the car with a box of oranges. And I'm super perplexingly. Okay what would you know? He's giving me this box of oranges and I was like okay. Maybe we did the picked it up for his wife or his family and he's like no no no. This is for you and this was the first time really experienced hands on Saudi hospitality. Which is insane. I mean I've been to a lot of places but never ever did uber. Taxi driver gave me a present for just arriving in the country. And that would be a new one for me as well. It's really insane. And this was not a one time I arrived in is expensive. There's a lot of hotels but they are quite expensive when expensive sixty seventy USD. For I would say the the cheapest room. That actually doesn't sound expensive to me agreed. I think I always if you compared to the surrounding countries. Yes okay I always said okay. I've I've been in the surrounding countries compared to that it was more expensive than expected but amazing place. Huge huge city. Lots of traffic because they just building public transport so you pretty much have to use a car to go everywhere but still a lot of history and it's interesting because via just started to really grow in the nineteen fifties so it's quite a new city and there's a beautiful place called Old Town. Where have the old fort were all started? And from there you can explore to the old markets and then also completely after a few minutes. Go to the modern part where you have for example the kingdom tower which is a huge huge skyscraper. We have a bridge on top where you have an overview of the whole city in the old fourth that would be the Mascara Fort exactly the Muslim for exactly. Can we have this little apart with Ford in the middle where you can walk around you have some bazaars but then when you venture further out you have all these modern buildings the kingdom tower with a bridge on top where you can see everything and also on my first day? Something that I heard before but I think that's always very interesting when you there. Is the shops actually close five times during the day. So you actually have to be aware of when you want to eat when you to buy something. Because when it's prayer time they will close a shop and you wouldn't be able to get in for twenty thirty minutes okay. Well and that's true in some other Muslim countries as well so just interesting. I think four Oscar not used to this on a daily basis to experience but very very fascinating will in. I'd say most of us who are listening to the show are not experts in Saudi Arabia. How much did you read up on Saudi culture or history before you went? I'm guessing you were not an Islamic history student or something like that beforehand that this was an opportunistic trip. Did you do a lot of reading? Was this all jumping in new. To be honest with you. It was more jumping pursue. What I expected you to say. That's all right. I mean of course read up on some things on the Internet but I mean because there hasn't been a lot of tourists country. There isn't a lot of information for tourists and there was very interesting because usually when I go into country tried to look pay. What a typical tourist routes that did not exist for Saudi Arabia. How did you put together your tannery then going to the country and talking to the people and then okay. I want to go to Riyadh. I WanNa go to Jeddah but for example Medina. I wasn't really sure if I'm allowed to go there. I was surprised when you said you were. Yeah yes so. This was not on my list and then actually people recommended me to go there and so yeah on the go. Put together my travel itinerary. I was lucky in that sense that I didn't have restrictions on time. I said okay. I'M GONNA be here for about two to three weeks so I had the flexibility to adapt on the girl. Excellent anything else. We want to remember to see well..
"saudi arabia" Discussed on The President's Inbox
"The rest of the Gulf countries who felt that the US was conducting putting its policy and did not include their own concerns vis-a-vis Iran so there's a fear of abandonment. I would again a fear of Vanden men and just simply not taking their. They're interested into consideration after so many years of alliance where they were also taking the US interest into consideration so they didn't think that the agreement should have been only only on the nuclear which is the top priority for the other parties the US and other parties that signed the agreement but also that for example around regional activities which are more for over. An immediate threat to countries should have been included in the discussion. I'm bad the balance of power between Gulf countries and Iran wouldn't have permitted them to do this on their own so it should have been included when the rest of the international community was putting around under pressure. Well obviously the Obama Administration gave way to the trump administration many ways. The president trump's foreign policy has been Abo anything but Obama. How would you describe the way? President trump has approached Saudi. Arabia's me I think right now where a moment where it is changing president trump as you know his first visit abroad in twenty seventeen was to Riyadh and it Trulia signalled a return to what Saudi Arabia at least perceived as an alliance between the US and Saudi Arabia and the threat perceptions in the region. We're closer the perception of the importance on the vitality of the bilateral relationship. was closer and more compatible than the one that they had with the Obama Obama administration of weather on Iran relations with Israel Saudi Arabia's role ended what is called often. It's IRT of foreign policy in the region and also president trump is someone who doesn't really get into the domestic affairs of Saudi Arabia or other countries. which is something that is important for countries from this region? But I kind of feel that as you know the. US Ball has been a folding in the region. Specially what concerns the maximum pressure campaign against Iran. We are at a moment where we can and see that tensions are starting to appear in this relationship because there is a tension between the top national security priorities of Saudi Arabia. Stabilizing Strean to to be able to focus on its vision. Twenty thirty projects that are a major priority to the crown prince on the current king. And that is not necessarily compatible with an escalation with Iran. Despite by the fact that from the start they have supported the maximum pressure campaign. And so right now we've seen press reports and confirmations by some officials that for example Saudi Saudi Arabia is starting to be open to a dialogue with Iran which is something I'm not sure the US administration or certain parties in the US administration are welcoming for example burning. How would you assess the change of policy under the trump administration? Smart Move Overdone Underdone. Well look there's continuity from Obama administration to trump's administration inasmuch as president trump just like President Obama wants to end the never ending wars. He wants to withdraw from the middle it'll east. He wants to turn America's attention to facing China which is much more immediate and longer term strategic threat to the United States but what president trump unlike President Obama president trump has decided to do is to fall back on the strategic traditional strategic allies in the United States namely Israel and Saudi Arabia. And as it where he hopes that both these countries will do the heavy lifting of containing Iran and of keeping regional order instability. President Obama wanted to create create a theater in which four five countries including Iran and Turkey would keep the balance now trump says no. It's just Israel and in Saudi the problem for for president trump as it as it was for president. Obama is you cannot reset the clock back to the pre one thousand nine hundred ninety period when the US had a very limited footprint in the region no basis no troops on the ground and kind of an offshore balancing approach. That's because neither Israel nor Saudi Arabia wants to do the heavy lifting the United States is doing both Israel and Saudi Arabia for different reasons. Don't have the same force projection capabilities. They don't have the same ability to contain Iran and and want the United States to remain not to retreat. In fact maybe both countries would ideally want the United States to get into some sort of fight with the Iranians and to give Iran a bloody nose so that Iranians would remain contained for a long period of time and so trump finds himself in the situation again a frustration and in that without the United States being present in this region it is very likely that the region will become much more volatile. And we see some of this inklings of this for instance. Since if you look at what's going on in Libya and Libya you have the Turks the Saudis the Emirati suggestions the French the Italians the Russians all fighting each other on different insides of the Libyan civil war. And something like that could happen in any one of these other countries especially in the countries where so much oil and gas is located and that would be hugely disruptive to the global economy even if we are more energy independent in the United States because of shale I want to return to this point Bernie but if I could just a backup the second and you mentioned that the United States wanted Saudi Arabia with the trump administration wants Saudi Arabia to do more of the heavy lifting. Yes what does that actually mean in practical practical terms well in practical terms it would mean to build up a military capability that would ideally replace the military capability that the United States. Now Oh has in the region so the US has about sixty eight thousand troops between Iraq Kuwait Qatar Saudi Arabia and the UAE. It has a large naval base. It has a large large air force base in Qatar Naval Base in Bahrain. The Saudis to replace that kind of capability would need at least a generation. The Saudi military is just simply employees. Not Up to that level of professionalism and competence and and that's something that the Saudi crown prince is working on but it'll take a long time to build because you need to change change the culture of the military You need to capabilities. The Israelis have that capability by the way they have a phenomenally powerful military. But again it's not a military that's willing into project itself beyond the borders and the defensive Israel. Yes I would add to this. That they have lifting was not just about also the military power it was also about orienting the regional politics in general so the the reliance on Saudi Arabia and Israel was that Saudi Arabia would also be able chew don't lead regional politics in a certain direction in a direction of you know a normalization with Israel and mobilize opposition to Iran for example. which is something? I think that Saudi Arabia hasn't really been able to do so. I think it's also the leadership in politics on which that Saudi Arabia wasn't able to deliver. You're absolutely right. I mean yes-men is absolutely right about that. I want to bring in the other half of this equation here. which is what is happening? In Saudi Arabia itself we briefly touched upon the fact that others new king. But few thousand fifteen on come to the throne after the death of his half-brother King Abdullah and by the mid two thousand seventeen he has cemented his son. Mohammed bin Salman no by his initials M B S as the crown prince neighbor. NECAS walk us through. What the vision is that? The Crown Prince Prince has a lot of talk about lots of late night. Conversations between Jared Kushner the president's son-in-law and NBS visions of remaking Saudi Arabia just sort of give was that part of the equation. Yeah so if you had met with King Solomon when he was still prince and governor of Riyadh so back in two thousand six two thousand seven when I first met him personally in his office he was obsessed with two issues. He felt that the kingdom faced two major challenges that needed to be addressed and they were one the challenge of diversifying find the economy from its near total dependence on oil revenues. So that you know. The hundreds of thousands of students that are graduating from schools and universities get jobs Outside the public sector seventy percent of the Saudi working population works for the government in the public sector. So he felt that you know if that didn't change if the economic structure of the country was not going to change then the oil money would not be sufficient to keep Saudis employed and that would then ultimately lead to political and social mobilization against the regime so so that was priority number one. The second priority was to confront Iran which had essentially taken over Iraq after the US invasion of Iraq in two thousand and three and that Iran had to be contain that the US was no longer a reliable ally for that and that the Saudis needed to build up their own capacities to do this to contain Iran and so when he takes over in two thousand fifteen gene he delegates most. If not all authority to pay son. The Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman who actually only becomes crown prince in two thousand seventeen but he's a factor person Jason running the country. And you see that haven't been someone is ineffective following these to a top priority of his father diversifying the economy and trying to confront Tehran and the confrontation with Iran is on full display of course in Yemen where Saudi Arabia has waged a five-year war and ineffective war against the herpes. Who are a proxy xc force Yemeni proxy force that is closely allied to Iran a proxy of Iran's so those are the two priorities and then what MBA strikes to do is he clamps down down on the Islamists he imprisons anyone who he thinks is criticizing his policies including liberals and human rights activists and women's rights activists but at the same time gives women the right to drive? You see many more women in the workforce and he's relying on women because they're the better human capital that he has in his population. They work harder. They're more disciplined. They're better educated than the men. So all for pragmatic reasons. He also emasculate S- most of the royal family he concentrates and consolidates power away from other members of the family. He tries to limit or restrict corruption. especially if the royals so he's doing all kinds of things some of it. Good some of it really bad like the imprisonment of the of the US as well as political dissidents including of course the tragic murder of democracy in Istanbul so the record is very mixed ext but the broad outlines of what. He's trying to do where set by his father yesterday. How do you make sense of the changes happening domestically in Saudi Arabia? And do you see. See them as sticking I. I asked that because clearly in Saudi Arabia there are components society that don't like decisions king and the Crown Prince have made on the other hand. There are lots of other people Think younger Saudis. who think that this is the change that the country desperately needs? Okay so the turn that happened in Saudi howdy politics whether domestically or in its foreign policy since twenty fifteen especially with the ascendance to power chew of the Crown Prince's dot. Saudi Baltics have as Bernard has mentioned the new. Saudi leadership is is very pragmatic. It's his extreme blooper especially the crown prince's very pragmatic which here in DC. Some people see as being recklessness. He knows what he needs to do to transform the country it is not use. Some international reports have been writing about diversifying Saudi economy. Powering Women Empowering the private sector changing the dictation sector opening up the education system to for example for universities and so on and so forth he knew what he needed to do undecided that he's going to do it without sticking to the old normally frameworks of respecting the hierarchy inside the family respecting you know. The capitalists capitalists or if you want the business community that is client of the regime and so he went down on doing good. This is why I prefer using the word pragmatic than the other than the word reformist. For example or reformer because he's someone who needed what knows what he got his country needed and he's doing it not because he believes that it's in the good adv value of empowering women because he thinks that this is going to do good to the economy. The second thing I would like to say about this is that with those changes that he was making. An as Bernard mentioned Bharat of this was his absolute refusal to any kind of critique it was not just about imprisoning the Islamists or or activists because they were talking politics in general. It is really one down to cracking down on any kind of criticism including for example in criticism two of the entertainment authority or of the head of the entertainment authority who is a very close to the crown prince for example. That's one of the things that actually kind of a little bit surprised me when I was in the last time is that here in Washington. DC We tend to talk about the huge events and captured them to evaluate what the crown prince is has been doing in Saudi Arabia..
"saudi arabia" Discussed on Cheap Heat
"saudi arabia" Discussed on Marketplace Morning Report with David Brancaccio
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Even though work isn't getting done and that's just money down the toilet millions of federal workers and contractors weren't able to work for fifty two who days in the last three shutdown twenty nine thousand nine hundred eighteen and twenty thirteen on top of that there was lost revenue from parks for example project delay costs but four billion dollars wasted AH low balling it according to Matthew Shapiro Director of the Survey Research Center at the University of Michigan it understates the cost of shut down because of all the indirect effects restaurants restaurants that lost business purchases not made contractors who were never reimbursed taking all that into account the CBO estimated that the last shutdown alone the longest and US history at thirty five days cost three billion dollars all told in New York. I'm sure for marketplace. Let's check the markets. 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Exchange means you kind of home to a stock this DACA trade anywhere on different exchange but there's a home your home home but your stock market. I E X got outta that business this week. You think teaches a larger lesson about the stock markets that we live in you. No I think it was an opportunity to talk about the difference between listings and trading. I'd meet someone at a at a school party for my kids and they say can you only trade one stock stock. You know you only have one listing. I said no trades six thousand stocks a day. enlist want. I think what we learned is that you know enlisting. We saw the problem and we were selling solution in trying to educate companies on why they should care. I think that was a much steeper hill than we thought you know after year of being in business just it just wasn't right for us if ever there were David Brancaccio stock that I wanted listed. Why would I have gone to I xe. What was your invented enlisting with you? Instead of New York stock is sure yeah. I mean for us. It was partly about values and in an education that I x was built upon important pillars of fairness and transparency and performance for Cheryl. There's really important the place we had the hardest time. Competing was was on the ceremony in the events around listing New Yorker Nasdaq. Wait the thing in the morning where the new stock is listed and they ring the bell over at the absolute change. It gets on brand x cable television station yeah. That's sort of a marketing thing they were offering yeah. I mean it's it's like the Disney world moment right. It's I think the exchanges have done a great job of making that experience ah part of the decision to list and we found ourselves being forced to you know consider competing impeding as an entertainment or events company and that's just not who we are where we are technology company so what you see on. TV is not the Stock Exchange that remind US I E X. 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"saudi arabia" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Are still at a very important factor in overall global economic indices sees and so you saw markets react very strenuously particularly in Asia which is of course more and more tied to Saudi energy supply even as the United States becomes he comes less least individually dependent on oil coming out of Saudi Arabia so I think you know first and foremost that's one of the reasons why we have to give a rat's ass is but the reason is simply that we can't walk away or disregard the conflicts that have been raging in the Middle East simply because we have paid such a high price in terms of both blood and treasure on the part of the American people these conflicts come back to haunt us in a very immediate way in terms of our own security at home in terms of our security of our allies and partners around the region and around the world but they also have an enormous effect talk on the people of an important region of the world and this idea that you know a war in Yemen we can simply tolerate because we we needed to give the Saudis a little a bit of running room after signing a nuclear deal with Iran which they found of Horri- I think was an incredibly horrific calculus on the part of the Obama lead ministration which effectively was in a position to green light and did green light the initial decision on the part of the Saudis to launch this conflict there you know the war in Syria has had a tremendous effect both on on obviously a Syrian people and the wider region on the prospects for a peaceful he's fun and prosperous Middle East but also of course on on refugee flows into Europe and on European politics and so the idea that we can simply sit back back and watch the prospect of another war a war that would engage this long-standing sectarian and geopolitical rivalry between the two most important countries. He's Today in the Middle East and that we would who we simply shouldn't care. I think is both inaccurate in terms of the security implications and incredibly really inhumane so I have experienced a kind of weird Iran whiplash over the last couple full of months where we've gone from being within a few minutes of attacking them to John Bolton leaving and a half for being fired and a half to wanting to meet them socially in New York to now suddenly family saber rattling about this incident in a fashion that is certainly suggestive of possible military action so I'm I'm wondering is there some way to understand the US side of the US Iran relationship that makes any more sense of it than I am instinctively able to make or does it simply not make sense. That's a very open ended question of I think you know the trump administration undertook a policy toward Iran without really thinking through how would play out beyond the immediate initial and overwhelming frankly success that was achieved in reimposing sanctions on Iran and having a massive economic doc cost for Iran. There was either magical thinking that somehow there would be regime change for wholesale capitulation and neither one of those assumptions has any bearing reality but there wasn't a sort of fully thought out appreciation of how easily something like this would come to pass and of course there was widespread anticipation that this kind of escalation was almost inevitable when president trump made the decision to exit the nuclear deal all in May of two thousand eighteen it took another year before the Iranians began to react in any serious way and even then these attacks that we saw over the course of the summer the efforts to begin to back away from their own commitments under the nuclear deal were relatively incremental relatively small scale L. and enabled us all to sort of go back to forgetting that this was in fact a very live a point of friction in the international system. I don't think we're going to be able to forget in the near future. Scott WanNA finish with you when you look at this it's a real mess of sort of interrelated plated issues that range from Yemen to in the immediate crisis since this attack to in a larger sense the the US Iranian frictions that are driven by the withdrawal from the JCP oh as well as a lot of issues in Iranian behavior that lead to escalatory steps like this one and all of it takes place against a sort of international law backdrop in which sh there's a whole lot of nested relationships and sets of obligations that are dicey and complicated and and fraught. What do you see as is is there anything here that is meaningfully guided by international law or is this simply what the different pressures the different parties can put on each other at any given moment in time. I think the simple answer is that it is both because because the international law really structures what is seen as a degree of legitimate state to state behavior among the different states it has a long term effect of empowering or potentially disempowering states depending on the degree to which they can make a credible case that what they're doing it. It was consistent with it in this case the trump administration has been pursuing action against Iran that violates certainly at least international political commitments in this form of JCP. Oh it was not a treaty but it was a political commitment that also strains various cases of territorial sovereignty in regards to secondary sanctions that pushes is the envelope in regards to a lot of other international law and policy and that makes it harder for it to rally support and make credible threats against Iran because it seems seems to have thrown stuff so willing to depart from international morals and standards much the same can be said about Saudi Arabia so while you know national lock in surface a constraint the short term and sometimes can seem as a weakening element on states abilities in that kind of timeframe in the longer term it it can also help to empower them if if they can build a case as to what they're doing is correct and therefore get more support from it from the international community here none of the relevant actors that are on the receiving end of the strike have done so and I think it weakens their ability to response and limits their options. We're going to have to leave it there Gregory Samantha Suzanne Scott. Thank you all for joining us. The law fair podcast is produced in cooperation with the Brookings Institution thinks this week to Gregory Johnson Johnson Suzanne Maloney Samantha Gross and Scott Are Anderson for coming on the show. Please share the law fair podcast. Give us a five star review on itunes. The podcast cast is edited by Gen Patio. How audio engineers this week where Michaela Fogel and Jacob shots are music is performed by Sofiane as always thank. Did you for listening.
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"Calculus may shift a little bit whereas a little bit of a Greyer picture they'd be worried about that supports new mash community they would want in the event of an armed conflict and that may be leading them to take what is so for at least it's been a little bit more of a conservative approach even than American officials in trying to attribute this attack says Suzanne. I bet you have not sat at a whole lot out of tables in which people have asserted that countries other than the one you study are even more unpopular right now than Iran but that actually actually is what Scott suggesting that that that Saudis may be being cautious because they look bad next to the Iranians. Do you have a sense of like assuming assuming you're Saudi Arabia and you decide that you need to back from this. What are your options. Let me just stipulate that I don't in any way disagree with what's already been said by Scott and others here about the cat of PR problem that the Saudis have they've poured billions into reputation laundering ring and and lobbying over the years and I think if anything there is just no purchase among the American electorate and more widely among long domestic publics around the world for the kind of sales pitch that MBBS tried to launch a New Vision Asian for Saudi Arabia and a close ally and friend of the United States that said I don't think the Saudis ever look beyond one address when when it comes to considering their own security and who has their back and that's here in Washington and obviously there's you know real precedent for that in terms of prior administration policy in coming in and a very strenuous way to try to ensure that we in fact did defend the Saudis against I any prospect of an attack for example after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait was the concerns about his future mindset and and whether Saudi Arabian oil production and the autonomy and independence of of the Saudi Kingdom would be preserved that helped to mobilize an an American effort to generate international support for a coalition to defend the kingdom and I think if anything that you know this kind of us preeminence in Saudi security mindset has only intensified since in the thirty years since that time I do think that from the perspective of how might they respond to Iran there once again looking to Washington the Saudis have some considerable capability when it comes comes to at least actual arms purchases one of the leading arms importers from the United States in a number of other western industrialized countries hasn't always translated to military effectiveness which greg can speak to and much greater detail than I can particularly in the case of Yemen but I I'd also point to the sort of history of some reticence on the part of the Saudis to go up against the Iranians directly this is a very different time very different leaders in both countries different political context all around but if you think back to nineteen ninety-six when a terrorist attacked a housing compound near Dhahran nineteen American in military personnel were killed in that attack the Clinton administration trace the the attackers to orchestration from Tehran the Saudis Saudis were very averse to cooperation in prosecuting that attack miraculously or perhaps not in two thousand fifteen the purported ringleader actually turned up in Riyadh and I think justice was settled on the part of Saudis from there so there is a I think a different way of doing business that was a very different kind of an attack as I said the political context in both Saudi Arabia Iran was very different at that time but I think it's not inconceivable that the Saudis will choose news to look for ways to de-escalate with Iran just as we saw happen with the Mercedes after the attacks which targeted targeted ships in their ports this summer in fact what we've seen is a at least briefly some new life for a diplomacy between the Iranians honey in the Mercedes I think suggesting that at least some within the Emirati leadership where we're happy to engage in support for US pressure on Iran Iran but when they recognize that there was a real cost to their own security into their economy they were they were more interested in diplomacy all right so one area where the Saudis have not ratcheted things down as Yemen and they've kind of not facing the Iranians directly have really I've been very aggressive and so gregory just give us a sense all of this may involve Yemen directly or it may not but it certainly involves vol's. Yemen to the extent that the huskies have claimed responsibility for it so what is the state of the Saudi involvement there again which is of course the backdrop against which all of this takes place right so the Saudis went into Yemen back in March of two thousand fifteen in their idea what what they were telling people in Washington here at the time was look. It'll take a six weeks. We'll push the WHO tease out of out of the capital Sanaa. the legitimate government. President Hattie will be able to return turn he was in exile in Saudi. Arabia will just bond them. They'll flee back to the mountains. Everything will be taken care of for now. Four and a half years on the Saudi strategy of airstrikes is not worked and so now Saudi Arabia's faced with I think militarily they have basically three options they can withdraw completely leave the Hutus in control of the country and that then the who these will clearly declare victory. Saudi Arabia doesn't want that to happen. They're worried that WHO `this will be essentially Hezbollah south than their border. Saudi Arabia can double down on what it is that they've been doing over the past four and a half year send ground troops in an attempt to push these out but that would be bloody there'd be a lot of a lot of Saudi casualties and there's also so no guarantee of success so they'll they're unlikely to do that so that means that they keep doing what it is that they've been doing for the past four and a half years which carry out airstrikes which kill a number of civilians kill sympathy fighters but have very little impact on the ground and as Scott said Suzanne said is everyone around the table that said as this war has gone on the UN calls Yemen the world's worst humanitarian humanitarian crisis everyone who touches it from the US to Saudi Arabia to the UAE is really being tarred with this new see this just a couple of months ago the UAE am drawing down UAE clearly looking for an exit in in Yemen the US would like not to be associated with this in back in April president trump vetoed the the joint resolution from from Congress asking to cut off US support US logistics and intelligence support the Saudi led coalition so Saudis Prosecution of this war despite their massive amount of military spending over really decades has not really shown that they have a military that's capable of up defeating this this tribal militia in north so they have extensive weapons they have state of the art technology and they're not able to to defeat the WHO these and it's unlikely that given four and a half more years bombing that there'll be any more successful than they have been over the past past four and a half years so Samantha when I hear all this in part of me says where you started is exactly the key point that yes this is a big facility for Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia doesn't matter as much as it used to and it's got this quagmire in Yemen. There's no obvious response ons for it against Iran if it tries directly and therefore it won't and so they will come looking to us to do something but we care less about them than we used to and by the way they're super unpopular right now and congress isn't itching to pass a sort of authorization to use force to defend Saudi Saudi Arabia which wants did right as recently as nineteen ninety-one and so my question is this is Saudi Arabia kind of on on its own here. Is this the sort of Kashogi in Yemen chickens coming home to roost where you really piss off the entire world and then somebody destroys your oil facilities and the world's Kinda like deal with it. Did I think there is some truth to it. You said I do I think the Saudi is are are much less popular than they used to be. I think Mohammed bin Salman really tried to paint himself as a reformer and he did some things he brought music to the Kingdom and in cinemas cinemas and let women drive and a lot of things that he he did to make himself look like a reformer whereas Baha behind the scenes he was causing all kinds of troubles with the war on Yemen with the Kashogi murderer Peter with continuing to imprison dissidents and political enemies and so to some extent it is I think the chickens coming home to roost but also I mean Saudi is still absolutely crucial to world markets. I don't WANNA I don't want to downplay their importance and even to the United States we still import oil and the prices that we I also at the gas station and we drive by and stopped to fill up our influenced by what happens in Saudi Arabia probably more than any other country but yeah they have kind of alienate alienate a lot of folks in the world and the other thing that this is that's happening in the background is it oil markets are pretty well supplied right now. There's been issues in Iran. There's there's been issues in Venezuela and Libya taken small off the market the by and large markets are still pretty well supplied and they've kind of shrugged off those disruptions. If this disruption is is short they can probably shrug this off to and so that kind of changes the world's calculus toward Saudi. We're concerned about Saudi for the most apart because we're concerned about their oil and we feel like markets are well supplied. We we do back away from them a pet to have help themselves out but that that reality stands so Suzanne before we turn back to Iran this morning or yesterday Washington Post columnist Elizabeth Bruni tweeted tweeted who gives a rat's ass if Saudi Arabia was attacked in kind of reflection of exactly what we've been talking about and you responded. I thought were particularly interesting tweet. You tweeted. I've been thinking about this tweet that is Elizabeth Brunettes tweet and my first reaction is how does a Washington Post opinion writer have so little understanding of energy and the global economy and so little regard for the potential implications of Middle East conflict for people in the region as well as elsewhere and so that seems to me to put a interesting bracket on the principle of you know you're on your own Saudi that we've just been flirting with so obviously one of the things that limits that principle is the impact on global oil markets and global global able other markets that are influenced by oil but there's more to your tweet than that. There's a you can decide you. Don't care or give a rat's rat's ass about the Middle East but the Middle East may still give a rat's ass about you. What are the things that limit that principle the ability to just say Saudi Arabia. You're kind of on your own on this one even if they're really unpopular and even you know even if they they're making the Iranians look good these days right well. I think the primary interest that the United States states has with respect to the security of Saudi Arabia and particularly in the aftermath of an attack like this is fundamentally about the health of the global economy and this is where I think you know some of the rhetoric out there that we are energy independent the sorts of things that Samantha said in her description of trump administration policy on USO S. O. Energy Production at home has been problematic because it's giving Americans the idea that somehow we are completely divorced from anything that might happen with with respect to energy supply coming out of the Gulf in fact of course because Saudi Arabia is such an important reliable low cost producer of energy anything anything that happens in Saudi Arabia will have an immediate ripple effect on global oil prices and global oil prices despite changes alternative.
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"Gulf port in the United Arab Emirates pipeline in Saudi Arabia and oil markets effectively shrugged off those attacks and while there was a little bit of Saber rattling and a little bit of concern particularly after the Iranians down an unarmed drone that was surveilling the coastline in the Persian Russian Gulf. there really was no military response of any significance from the United States and I think the Iranians haven't quite gotten what they needed out of that escalation. They need need an exit strategy. They need a mechanism to persuade president trump that maximum pressure is not in his interest and the best way to do that is is to threaten the global economy and by virtue that threatened the prospects of his reelection and strike the takes out a significant proportion of global spare energy capacity acidy will have that effect all right. Scott so let's with that as a factual backdrop. Let's consider the law of all all of this. You know you have a significant strike that may or may not be either conducted or aided or inspired fired by the Iranians may have hootie involvement or may not and is against the Saudi Arabian economic sort of vital organs. What are the tools reasonably immediately available to whom including especially especially given that the president has a kind of rattled sabres on twitter in response if you were still at the State Department at Ah the legal advisers office. What memo are you being asked to write today at this stage lawyers in the trump administration are gonna be I looking yet? The question of what sort of legal case can be made that the United States has a legal right or capability to respond militarily early in a in a variety of different ways and there may be other non military tools that we could discuss as well in regards to military solutions the international law side of this question. really is pretty straightforward. There's very little doubt that Saudi Arabia is a subject of an armed attack other. Maybe some dispute about the scale of it but the level of harm and hostilities here. We're talking about got a major attack in a major facility. I haven't seen fatalities numbers. It's hard to imagine there were no fatalities but regardless it seems to pretty easily qualify for an armed attack. Jack in which case Saturday we will have a right to kind of respond against in a necessary and proportionate should say as against the perpetrator that that tax comes down to a question of attribution whether that credibly be Iran or whether it be who t's have already accepted responsibility and that question of credibility really allies in the eyes of the Party undertaking the military action in this case perhaps the United States were Saudi Arabia or their allies or in the broader community whether they accept that legal justification as valid Saudi Arabia's the one with the right to respond in self defense but it can ask the United States step in and cooperate with us in with an exercising that right and what is called a collective self-defense and if the United States does and there is clear evidence linking back this attack back to Iran or go to another party that they ended taking military action against. It's a hard case to imagine that many people would object to there being some sort of right of response here although again it has to it'd be kind of scaled appropriately even in our community that's very skeptical of the trump administration and its position on Iran and that to some extent is why this is such an escalatory. Orien- exceptional move from a US domestic law perspective. The executive branch has maintained a for a number of decades across administrations. Now the president has has the authority to engage in the use of military force abroad under two conditions one in pursuit of national interests and to so long as the use forces out of a scale that quote unquote constitutes a war for constitutional purposes here. There's little doubt that the executive branch is going to be able to identify national national interest at play here regard the impact on the global economy and the US economy US security commitments say allegations in the region but certainly longstanding policy towards the Gulf region of variety of factors will kind of allow them to make that case people make contest it but the bar is very low. It's a pretty subjective standards not very constraining training on the executive branch. The real constraint then becomes well. What kind of level of force can be used. It's not clear illegally exactly where the line or the executive branch thinks the line is about what constitutes a war for constitutional purposes but the big factors tend to be something like the use of US ground troops or the use of major escalatory escalatory hostilities large scale civilian casualties things like that so at the United States wants to pursue a relatively minor response such as set up airstrikes strikes it likely feels it has legal authority to do so already again. That's controversial. Some people don't agree in particular some folks on Capitol Hill Disagree that the president has that authority forty but executive branch maintains that it doesn't has for for many years if the president however believes that this requires a much larger military or spots and extended military military campaign or that. There's a substantial risk of it escalating to such a military campaign factor that the trump administration itself is really emphasized and it's legal analysis the prior situations then they may feel compelled or at least feel that the strongest legal argument is that they do need congressional authorization for that and if that's the case swell than they have two options essentially one they can go to Congress and try and get that authorization or they can look to other laws on the books to say will do any of these. He's reach the situation. We've heard murmurs from the trump administration at various times that the two thousand and one authorization for military force. That's the same law that authorizes is the war in Afghanistan and bill travers al Qaeda could reach Iran potentially as well based on some Iranian ties to certain al Qaeda members on prior to nine eleven and afterwards. It's a weak case. I think it's one that lacks a lot of credibility. I think it's one that's not likely to be well received but it's it's hard to say it's absolutely Salihi outside the realm of possibility for an argument that the trump administration could choose to advance so it's at least an outside possibility although again I think it would entail major political risks the last step all this. They'll ask actor think about really is Congress. we saw. Congress earlier this year. Try and pass a statutory provision that would have prohibited pivoted president from engaging the use of force against Iran except in certain self-defense circumstances that would reach to the circumstance we saw it fail in the Senate simply because because it couldn't reach the sixty votes necessary to defeat a filibuster so you have congress kind of on their record majority of Congress really expressing reservations about engaging in this sort of military action and I think that sort of factory even though institutionally may not limit the president's legal authority is really likely to weigh in here as the administration considered a response Congress has been very skeptical of a major military campaign against Iran and you know the trump administration may reasonably fear ear that pursuing that sort of policy even if it thinks it has legal authority may result in more conflicts unless support from Congress than it would need particularly in the lead up to an election year so maybe more hesitant to pursue that path even if it's legally available so Samantha. It seems to me in the first instance. The question is what the Saudi government does right they are after all the victim of the attack although the perpetrator of a lot of attacks in in Yemen which which will talk about in a moment but they're the target of this attack and they are a famously impenetrable political political target to understand at least for me other than that they don't like the Iranians and will likely blame things on the Iranians. What what should we anticipate in a Saudi response both politically and militarily. It's a difficult question to answer. I think something that's GonNa play into into the answer to that. Question is I feel like this attack was a really specific personal affront to Mohammed bin Salman and here's the reason why the Saudis are really focused focused right now on the IPO the initial public offering of Saudi Aramco. That's come back to life recently and something that's really being pushed forward the idea behind this is that they'll use the revenue behind that IPO to invest in the economy to help move the economy away from its dependence on oil. This is something something that the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman has been super focused on an Israeli staked his reputation on and this attack is a real blow to that what it does it demonstrates that the production there is much more at risk than anyone knew there never been an attack this successful flow on that facility before and I think they'll recover from this attack. We'll know more tomorrow but I think they're likely to recover fairly quickly but this ability to attack their production has been demonstrated right now and so this is really an attack at the heart of the Saudi economy and a heart attack at the heart of what is trying to do with the Saudi Saudi economy so that certainly argues for strong action on the other side. Nobody wants a war in their yard. I mean they they have this enmities where it's the the the Iranians however a hot war with Iran is not something that does anybody any good and so the balance between those two factors the really deep strike get their heart verses not needing any more problems erupting in their neighborhood. I think that's the calculus that's going to have to take place within the Saudi government and assuming they feel that they cannot not respond to it. The Iranian military is quite battle-tested and a lot of areas the Saudi military careers had its hands full in Yemen other than kind of getting off involved. What is their actual leverage to respond like. What are their options. That is a difficult question. I'm trying to figure that out myself actually because they're already the beating the WHO is to death in Yemen and you know going after the Iranians by proxy. I'm not sure where they have the ability to go from there. I'd be interested to hear from our other panelists so gregory. Do you have a sense of that where if if you're Saudi Arabia and you WANNA hit the Iranians back in response to this. What do you do he will it depends where the attack comes from right so if it comes if it came from Yemen if the Hutus are correct then it's part of this broader ongoing war and that sort of limited in a sense that the Saudis have an immediate target they can go after a raw by by hitting the Hutus who they see as running proxy but if it's launched from Iran if it came from Iran then this is something whereas I think it was said earlier. We'll know oh pretty soon where the attack came from then it's something else entirely and then Saudi Arabia either has to respond or they're in a position where they may invite invite more tax if you take the view that Iran has slowly been escalating over the summer. What do you think Scott One other consideration. I think that has to be entering into into Saudi. Thinking at this moment is that it is really in a position where it's goodwill with interesting probably approaching a Nader never necessarily a high sold it to begin with but we have seen in Saudi Arabia come under incredible criticism for the conduct of the were Yemen for the Democra- Shoghi murder late late last year and really the trump administration has been one of the few allies. It's really still bolstering. Saudi Arabia other countries are maintaining military ties and a couple of other relationships and of course oil purchase ties but they're under increased domestic pressure and domestic strain and from the perspective of Saudi Arabia. I kind of suspect that their confidence at the International Ashley Unity we'll have their back if the event of a conflict with Iran is dwindled even if there is a strong case to run as taking a brazen attack the.
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"Might be a little bit skeptical of that but then we saw that there were seventeen different strike points and that became evident from some satellite photographs those satellite photographs showed seventeen separate strikes that it didn't quite seem to add up with ten drones the second thing is that these strikes were deep inside Saudi Arabia and it would have required a flight of a five hundred miles or so for drones to be able to get there and that seems well beyond the range of what we've seen the WHO tease be able to do before four and then as we looked more and more at these satellite photographs it seemed clear that these were precision strikes in fact there was a hole in the Dome of some of the storage facilities that were each in precisely the same and they were neatly board little holes. Does that seem to suggest a missile strike not a drone that just was carrying some explosives so the initial story just didn't seem to a match with what we were looking at in the photographs and then what happens well then the president took to twitter and he said on Sunday that I'll Loreto Saudi Arabia. Oil Supply was attacked. There's reason to believe we know the culprit are locked and loaded depending on verification. Shen but are waiting to hear from the kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of the attack and under what terms we would proceed kingdom is referenced instead of Kenema Saudi Arabia so here we have the president United States in charge of the world's largest and most powerful intelligence agents and military forces saying that he is waiting for the Saudis to tell him who they believe triggered this attack and tell him what terms they would proceed on well. It sounds like they're discussing some kind of joint response but the United States for the past two hundred plus years decides on its own whether or not it is going to come to the defense of an outline conduct conduct a military strike or any other kind of response. It's somewhat remarkable to hear that they're waiting for instructions from an ally which is what the president's tweets sounded like he was saying and David. It's not just an ally right. It's Saudi Arabia and we're coming up on the one year anniversary of Jamal Khashoggi Steph which there's a significant amount of evidence that Mohammed bin Salman leader of Saudi Arabia ordered so it also seems somewhat extraordinary for the US to defer to Saudi Arabia given that track record. That's right the administration had been under tremendous pressure. I sure after the murder to identify. NBS as he's called as somebody who was involved but the administration ignored it all and I'm not how can you tell a country that spending hundreds of billions of dollars and has helped me do one thing very importantly keep oil prices down so that they're not going linked to one hundred and one hundred and fifty dollars a barrel right now. We have oil prices in great shape. I'm not going to destroy the world economy yeah and I'm not going to destroy the economy for our country by being foolish Saudi Arabia so I think the statement wait a minute so in some ways this this is a big challenge to nbs but it's also something of a potential political gift to the administration because they can make the case to who congress and others that while Saudi Arabia is no perfect government or society that the Iranians are in fact more evil actors in the region and that's essentially the argument they've been making in the past forty eight hours this attack would potentially have the impact of you've drawing the US in Saudi Arabia closer and giving the trump administration rationale for being closer to Mohammed bin Salman Saudi Arabia. That's right but there's also the concern inside the Pentagon you not let Mohammed bin Salman drag the United States into a new mid-east war it was only a week ago the people in the Pentagon and elsewhere in the administration or showing a big sigh of relief that John Bolton had gotten unfired is national security advisor because their concern was that Bolton would lead the United States ultimately into a conflict with Iran now with Bolton gone a series of unpredicted events may in fact push the US and Saudi Arabia there or pushed the United States to back up the the Saudis Strike Iran so just a review. POMPEO has said it's Iran. The president has said we're locked and and loaded. We're going to let our ally Saudi Arabia lead the way in determining who it is the Hutus are claiming credit but why would use claimed to have done this carried out this audacious sophisticated attack if they had a great question. I'm a bit confounded did myself. The WHO of course are backed by the Iranian so it's conceivable the Iranians ask them to do it. It's conceivable that they just thought that by taking credit therefore they would look more powerful than they really are and maybe in some way they were involved but the most important element of this is that the Saudis came out on Monday the Saudis specifically are pointing their finger at Iran with whom of course they're involved in this proxy war and declared that their examination Asian of the evidence was that this attack was launched by Iran specifically right now however while saying that these were Iranian weapon systems and they are saying they are still investigating precisely where those weapons were fired from they have however ruled out. Yemen as being that base they provided no evidence and that evidence may not exist.
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"Described the scene in Saudi Arabia on Saturday Michael. We're all still trying to piece together but what we do know. Is that about three thirty in the morning on Saturday morning in Saudi Arabia. There were a series of explosions at a number of refinery facilities line and of course it was dark. no-one exactly what was happening. Fires were burning it wasn't clear where these came from and it wasn't until the sun rose that they saw a really remarkably extensive amount of damage and what they discovered was that a number of their big oilfields were burning than when you look at the satellite photographs you see classic oilfield kind of operations big tanks lots of pipes and obviously lots the facilities that if hit by a weapon can burn and that's exactly what happened this was bigger than anything we had ever seen done to the oil fields in Saudi Arabia at any time in history and David help us understand the significance of hitting oilfields in Saudi Arabia. What's the impact of that also Arabia obviously is among the world's biggest oil producers these facilities account Michael for about six percent of the oil pumped around the world every day while the Saudis themselves produce roughly ten million barrels a day. These facilities are capable of doing somewhere between five and eight million of that so this is a significant a significant amount for world production but it's a huge amount for the Saudi production right so if someone is interested in striking Saudi Arabia and striking the global economy. This is a very good target. It's the best target you could find and what is the original understanding of what has happened and who did it before. There was understanding. There was a claim of responsibility Leah Thirty Huggins Emotional Russian all the WHO tease who are engaged in pretty desperate war with the Saudis in Yemen immediately claimed credit for this. GonNa shut we promise the Saudi Arabia team that are coming operations will only grow wider and we'll be more painful than before so long as their aggression and blockade continues they don't they said that they sent ten drones into Saudi Arabia and that those were responsible for the hit so is the initial sure report came out on Saturday. The hootie movement from neighboring Yemen has taken credit for the attacks the Saudi government as been backing the Yemeni government's fight against awesome rebels of that seemed perfectly credible explanation intil you dug into the facts a little more.
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"It'll be a better outcome if in fact the at least one house of Congress Congress pushes back against trump if he makes a decision to go after this in the same way it would have been great to have seen actual pushback against Obama when he entered a Libya without any form of congressional authorization in fact there was push back against Obama after during that Congress. I don't know the exact mechanism but it was sort of a formal censuring. Hey look you know you're violating the war powers act you could declare your emergency within the first sixty days ninety maybe but I think it's sixty but after after that you need to come to us directly and the Obama administration used the marvelous euphemism ongoing Connecticut exercise as opposed to actual warfare is different is because kinetic. You know it's different than war. Even though we're warring on the most exercise as kinetic ask ask yourself what about planking. Peter Plunkett a said most excellent points excellent point. I Catherine President Trump this morning seemed to indicate strongly that previous shoot down of a US drone was conducted by Iran on on despite Iranian denials there is that how do you pronounce a causes or Casas belly cash clay is that Cassius clay to WHO to get to send a bomb of our own somewhere. You know this is a this is always like there's this idea that there is some kind of objective standard right. There's this idea that okay well. You know somewhere sometime. In the you know in the formation of the nation state some official rules were encoded wherein war is either justified or unjustified and of course that's not true and so there's there's you know there may or and I may not have been acts of aggression. There may or may not be aggression every single day. These things are purposely done in such a way that they are often opaque so that both sides have plausible deniability ability because nobody actually really really wants to have a war right like they sometimes feel like they must and so that is why we have wars but nobody's like woo. Let's have a war unless they're literally insane which John Bolton. Some world leaders are and occasionally some moustachioed advisors to world leaders are but for the most part even John Bolton I would prefer for us not to be at war. I suspect I want to give him the benefit of the doubt wow and and so nothing has caused a spell I unless you want it to be and and that is the unfortunate truth of realism is guests and certainly it's extremely true. In this case there will be a bunch of small things that may or may not add up to war and it will actually be at the discretion of world leaders unfortunately not at the discretion of Congress at this point whether or not we engage in war and it is it is silly to pretend that at some point a red line is crossed and then the US has no choice or then. Iran has no choice. That's not how it is. That's never how it is. It's worth pointing out that we almost attacked Iran earlier this summer we came according to President trump within about ten minutes of allowing an an attack to go through and he planned it all day and had given the go ahead and then suddenly pulled back and give it a thumbs down when he realized this is his story sorry when he realized that it it could cause up to one hundred fifty fatalities this was after Iran apparently attacked shutdown. I believe a US military drone in June and and it was trump who pulled back trump who had been pushed by his advisors into doing this into sort of setting up the attack and putting it on the road to being real and and so you know we talk about Congress should be restraining trump. What's actually interesting. Is that in the trump administration. The president has been the person who has restrained himself has restrained the administration has restrained the military from acting in ways that I think this is this is trump's best quality is that he genuinely does not not seem to actually want to go to war. He likes bellicose talk tweets. He likes to Brag about America's military. He wants to spend way too much on the Department of Defense but he does not appear to have the let's go to war over every little slight instinct that virtually all presidents and since World War Two had although I would add that after he fired John Bolton last week and or Bolton resigned whatever he made some comments. I believe again on twitter saying that Bolton wasn't strong enough against Venezuela Cuba more than right so he claims to be more hawkish on Venezuela which is insane and there certainly have been reports and rumors over the last year or so that the trump administration driven by president trump wants to you have at least a military standoff maybe not an actual conflict but at least a standoff and maybe a conflict with Venezuela and it's crazy and that's the sort of nutty thing that you get from a guy like president trump on the other hand. What I said was trump really likes the the language of war. He likes military rhetoric. Marshall Rhetoric he likes to threaten to use America's military because America's military is big an awesome and that's in in a way that appeals to someone like Donald Trump but given given the opportunity to actually send bombs to send troops. He has been pretty wary and this is a pretty reticent. This is a thing that has been fairly consistent assistant with him certainly more so than any president in my lifetime and more so than pretty much any other. Republican contender that he was against in twenty any six hundred fifteen two thousand sixteen probably more so than Hillary Clinton speaking of both Democrats and reticence arguably about the only bright spot lots of last week's presidential debate in Houston of ten leading contenders for that particular thrown was kind of a discussion of Afghanistan in particular particular and and what should be done there and there was surprising to me amount of support there for restoring congressional authorization Asian for war haven't heard a lot of talk like that in a while you Pete Buddha judge was talking about sunsetting authorizations after three years and a lot of people were talking about getting the troops the hell home out of Afghanistan Catherine. Is there a reason to expect any optimism that Democrats have had more of a change of heart on this particular topic. I don't think that I have any optimism at all on the procedural point well maybe in general but more narrowly on the procedural point the idea that the Democrats should they win the White House will restore the balance of power by returning some more powers to Congress strikes me as absolutely laughable and and wildly unlikely to occur. I do think though that it's fairly likely if Democrats take the White House that we will see a drawdown from Afghanistan 'cause we're maybe sort of seeing a drawdown from Afghanistan Ghanistan. Now it's sort of weird bipartisan transpartisan nonpartisan thing that's just drifting around inside our politics like a plastic bag in the wind no-one on so you're welcome for that for that metaphor a little bit of American beauty for your day so yeah. I think I I do believe I believe Pete Buddhis- When he looks in the camera and says forever war is bad endless war is bad. You dislike him. I like him. I mean I like him less than I do when he first emerged 'cause he has sort of was like guys. Don't worry I'm going to tell you a bunch of substance really soon and that dude seem smart. He's probably going to deliver on that and then he didn't but you know I do believe that the anti war sentiment on that stage was sincere with regard to Afghanistan. I do believe that though many of the Democrats grads on that stage are more likely to draw down than Donald Trump has been despite his occasional rhetorical promises to do so but I absolutely do not I believe that under any of the administrations and the people on that stage that they will defer to Congress about the declaration of war. I started this by saying that it was one of the only highlights here I will. I will yield the floor to anyone who can mention any other policy related highlight that they heard word at the democratic debate. Anyone cared of volunteer would mean there was a somewhat interesting discussion of Medicare for all and how are you going to pay for it. In the first forty minutes or so Joe Biden actually seems to have studied up a little bit on his plan versus Bernie's plan and made. I think you really show Biden's best case which is not necessarily to say the greatest case but the best case that Joe Biden has made so far against the impossibility possibility of of just raising taxes enough to finance the thirty two trillion her so that would be necessary to fully pay for Bernie Sanders Medicare for Auckland. I know that the way these plans get written isn't that the candidates themselves originate the ideas and yet there's always a link depressing to me about the idea that these dudes have to like swot up before the debate to be ready to talk about the thing they would do so it's also that he he had to swat up to be ready to talk about to criticize is effectively the thing that Bernie Sanders wants to do yeah and Biden ahead made some attempts to say well this this goes too far. It's too expensive in the past I but he did the best job that I have seen him do again. This is a this is a qualified praise of talking about the kind of you've just the practical impossibility of getting Bernie Sanders plan implemented and he said I mean he actually started his criticism. Bernie Sanders plan with something that I thought was kind of interesting which was that he said well. We'll my plan costs seven hundred and fifty billion dollars over ten years. That's a lot of money it it is. He's right here just happy. It's it's it's like relative to all of the to the seniors plan. Actually it's a tiny amount of money but seven hundred and fifty billion dollars over a decade is a huge amount of money and Biden actually seems to recognize that and seems to be aware of the kind of political and economic limits that would face any healthcare reform. I here's how unlimited the general a notion of spending is attract a lot of comment but a Comma Harris at some point just sort of casually through that she plans to give two trillion dollars to really twice as much as the ten ten year price tag on obamacare initially to historically black colleges and universities just for that go ahead Catherine. Yeah I was actually going to say education highlight as well which is cory booker who has who has gone back and forth a little bit on his record on charter schools and school choice in general saying yes we closed poor performing charter schools but Dag Nabet we expanded High Performing Charter Schools Tag Nazi literally said he actually said that she said it twice because he also referred referred losing out to the March of the Dag Nab Penguins when nominated for the documentary about his efforts was nominated for that's not a lot better than okay. I WANNA fight you on this. The use of data by like one of the youngest people on the stage was really a delight to me and I think actually a pleasing so y'all note listeners to this podcast no but especially my reason colleagues know that I liked colorful language and and I have been deeply annoyed by Beto Oryx plan to prove his seriousness by just saying fuck Allott and it's because I think he's robbing the rest of us and the chance to use that word when we really mean it against him again and again. This goes against his gun policies. He yells at Hell. Yes he's going to take our fifteen and our AK47's you know now. We have Tulsi saying that. We're we're not Saudi Arabia's bitch like I guess just a thing where if you don't have a lot to lose you might right as well try to win by being a straight talker. I am surprised to find myself in the category of saying you know what maybe people who literally we wanna be president could just scale back the language a Smidge Wa holy on the debate stage or on CNN and so. I appreciate the DAG bag nabet did Catherine just become beckel. I don't know what happened but I I understand when you're president you need is sometimes drop f bombs and sometimes drop actual bombs but I guess I would prefer that they do so only rarely in traditionally connected. You see anything that was positive that hasn't been mentioned so far and worth where they've comment. Andrew Yang had a nice riff about the historical role of immigration and of the United States as a magnet for immigrants as a positive force which I thought was nice to hear but overall you know it from a libertarian perspective. It was a deeply disturbing showing because first off it's becoming coming increasingly clear that the race at this point Israeli between Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden and none of them you know from from a libertarian perspective has much to offer. I mean they all in various ways want to either maintain the exact status quo or much more common..
"saudi arabia" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
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"saudi arabia" Discussed on Worldly
"It's not like what is good for Saudi Arabia objectively it is what Mohammed bin Salman wants to do to maintain power and to assert his own authority and distract from these Doba calls and human rights violations that Alex was describing. He wants other countries to know that if you go after Saudi Arabia's human rights record, you will face retaliation. So he wants to generate running room for himself and whip up national sentiment at home and Canada. It's not like the United States. It's not the most powerful country in the world, Saudi Arabia's prime patron. It's not an e you country so you, you know, he started trying to one of them. Then you get into a major, fade worth entire trading block. It's a western country, a big and prominent one, but one that you can take on with relatively little economic cost, though some, but not the tremendous cost that you would incur by alienating more powerful. Patriot. So it's a perfect country to go after if you want to send a message to other ones stay away from human rights record best. My money is a Middle East expert at the university of Waterloo in Canada, and she wrote this brilliant piece. Zach, I think you actually flagged to me in the globe and mail newspaper, and she has this great essay. You should definitely read. It will link to it in the show notes, but just wanna read one quote from it. She says, this is less about Canadian foreign policy than it is about the Saudis. This is a new, bold Saudi Arabia, trying to make its Mark global and regional affairs led by the young, very brash crown prince Mohammad bin Salman. This latest move is yet another red line that is being used for rial up nationalist and assert Saudi dominance. And that's exactly how to understand what's going on. It has nothing to do with Canada candidate didn't do anything differently than it's always done. What's different is MBA s. what's different is what's happening in Saudi Arabia and what he's doing. And I think that's where we'll leave it for the segments of the one last thing I want to say is that my fiance he was Canadian has been getting. For us for not talking about Canada enough on the show. So Honey, I hope you're happy and you know on the next segment on elsewhere, we'll be talking about something very different, which is some great reporting that Alex did about the North Korean nuclear program, something different, good reporting..
"saudi arabia" Discussed on Global News Podcast
"This is a global news podcast from the bbc world service media and in the early hours of sunday the twenty fourth of june these are our main stories saudi arabia lifts its decadeslong ban on women drivers does imbaba and president emmerson mnangagwa suggest the blast at an election rally in bulawayo was an attempt on his life tens of thousands marched through central london commanding a second vote on britain's departure from the european union also in this podcast i hope that they'll keep to the front of the agenda the knowledge that libya's nasha safe place we collect testimonies on the inhumane conditions the torture the violence the sexual violence you leaders from a nurse on board the migrant rescue ship the aquarius and he set up the korean central intelligence agency the us official wants described it as a combination of the gestapo in the soviet kgb look back at the life of the architecture of south korea's once notorious spy agency who's died at the age of ninety two i after more than sixty years spent stuck in the passenger seat saudi arabia's fifteen point one million women have finally been allowed to take over the wheel at midnight local time the ban on women drivers officially ended it's being seen as part of sweeping changes of traditional norms by crown prince mohammad bin salman but the country raines one of the most restrictive for women and many of those who campaign to get the ban lifted remain in detention from riyadh or garin reports hi how are you today fine lesson let's go well we're just sitting off now for a driving lesson we're at the campus of princess nura university outside riyadh we have a female driving instructor and a female pupil can i go forty or you can be voted but not more than fifty cleese driving teacher ashok muhammed who has spent years in the uk provides plenty of reassurance terrified roundabouts do you remember yeah you're gonna terrified can do it it's easy nice cars my name's nandy ah how are you nice meeting you will okay so far so good i'm looking for a car i'm very interested in the range rover i like to big cars i don upmarket showroom in riyadh businesswoman nadia i'll huzzah is checking out the latest models so this is this port this is not the biggest one in the past when she bought new cars she only ever looked at the back seat every time i bought the car had the til in my thinking oh my god i i'm not going to be driving it's it's the driver who was gonna step you know have the first step on it and that kind of us to break my heart because it's my money it's my car i wanna be i wanna be able to be the first one to drive it off from the showroom back to the house but that never happened and now it's happening it's evening time and i met the tiber suk it's one of the oldest markets here in riyadh there are arched ceilings and the shops are just opening now many of them selling gold and plenty of them selling a buyer's the floor length black cloak that women still wear here when you look around you don't see much sign of change the women are all fully covered they all have their heads covered some have their whole faces covered but talking to people here you do get a sense of change of a desire for change my name is ryan guebuza was born here actually for thirty two years i'm with my wife and with my daughters the driving will be soon for the latest so we relax a little bit you know we'll sit home they will they will start doing their own things by themselves yeah it'll will be nice i mean change you know they start to be equal in these things i mean why not it is the normal life it is normal life and we start with the normal life and i'm happy with it spoke to our correspondent in jeddah hanan razzaq most women here are very excited and and the are looking forward to actually change their day to day lives we've been talking to women in jeddah and they've been telling us that now the the will be able to drive themselves to the work place they can go to the doctor appointments without having to wait male driver to.
"saudi arabia" Discussed on Arms Control Wonk
"When ahead and on air force air force one enroute japan said a shot was taken by iran in my opinion at saudi arabia and our system knocked it down that's how good we are nobody makes what we make and now we're selling it all over the world and then he gets off the plane in japan right and is at a press conference and he gets ask and then he says that japan will be able to shoot down north korean missiles shoot them out of the sky is actually what he said just like the shatt the saudis shot this missile doubt you can't see me but i'm just shaking my head and looking at the ground because it's literally uninformed speculation but uninformed nonsense from somebody who should be better briefed you know what it also is it is donald trump waving a big red tape at the cns oh saint team so you said well farc we know it support divides system we could probably find what they were defending and work backwards absolutely and like i say we just started early on we had started because we were trying to just place things just to understand which videos were real and an which videos were not and early on with something caught our i that bothered the hell out of me and it i know what it is but tell the listeners so there were videos showing the debris in a neighborhood and we were able to jio locate that net neighborhood is in the northern part of riyadh helpfully in a parking lot in in a parking lot between not between because they're sort of caddie corner to one another but like you know next to a a shopping mall and a boy school.
"saudi arabia" Discussed on WSJ Opinion: Foreign Edition
"A a lot of talk bernard about now these asset a grabs by nbs either in saudi arabia or attempts on to get money back to saudi arabia from abroad which i assume is a much more difficult task now it is that then really about ending socalled corruption or is it a message to this very very large royal family that look the good times are coming to an end you cannot live off of the backs of the oil revenues anymore you can still be princes and royalty in live a good life but maybe not the life the two which you've become accustomed yeah and actually it's more about your behavior is unsustainable and you know you the way you've operated is impossible if the countries to reform itself economically so i i think that it's an attack on a culture of a debt had become dominant in amongst the royals and among some of the business community and basically a culture of impunity people who you know we take on government contracts and never deliver or overcharged for government work he wants to end that culture and to do that you really have to show unity do a greedy brutally i think in the way that in the way that he did although it is important to note that there was no bloodshed at all and there hasn't been so far and second you know they're not actually in in jail or in prison there in a fivestar hotel.
"saudi arabia" Discussed on Global News Podcast
"So why has saudi arabia done this and how significant is it i asked damage zaki from bbc arabic there is a huge government and loyal support for this new body groups like alqaeda or isis have been going to have biz's them or the teachings and the walks off mohammad bin abdel wahab as a form of the ideology of their extremism ideals you've come at the knob through hab walls one of the most important figures into a saudi history with south and can be and he formed the first saudi a state so mohammed mahbool hep teachings or allow habilis him until now is forming a huge part or sunk off the saudi eucation system so what is mohammed bin samantha new crown prince and his father the king is trying to do is to shift as a society from this culture of extremism to a culture of fighting such groups and opening the society four different thoughts and how important will it be do you think it's important because it's coming from saudi arabia and saudi arabia is presenting itself as the most important soudini country in the islamic world and medina is the second most important religious city in saudi arabia and also it will not only be formed from saudi islamic scholars but it would be formed from schoolers coming from different countries inside stomach world and it zaki from our arabic service thousands of a hindu muslims fleeing the violence in myanmar thought to be trapped on the border with bangladesh with limited access to food and water they are among more than half a million who've left draconian state since august when the burmese military launched an offensive in response to alleged attacks by hindu militants.