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Equine Forum - December 22nd 2020

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Equine Forum - December 22nd 2020

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse. Racing radio network thanked him on the second chance years. That's one tacky. Derby got meet in the final furlong out. The sixteenth bowl got mean john velazquez rolling on home to win the breeders cup. Filly bear sprints all gonna mean welcome to the equine forum ever outside the to putting on a show. The derby swinestein their often photo-finish whitmore striding forward for the lead pinned a final pumped up breeders. Sprints what a day in the career best seven year old whip or a-rod ortiz junior pep one breeder's cup sprint. Now here's mike peta hello again. Everyone good morning and welcome to the show. That launched eight network the equine forum. Right here on the horse. Racing radio network mike pence at the back stretch with you wishing you a very merry christmas passing along best wishes for a safe healthy and happy new year. You're listening to this morning. Show throughout north america on sirius to nineteen xm channel to a one on our affiliates in lexington louisville and across the country or digitally with our live streaming or podcasts of the show on our hr and website at horse racing radio dot net. Well i wanted to do something special with this show today. A little bit different. It's been a difficult year for a lotta people in every saturday morning. I make it my goal to provide a bit of an escape if you will for these two hours. I want to be sure that. I take you on a journey that allows you to focus on nothing but the great sport of thoroughbred racing. And i think today show will do exactly that for the next two hours. We're going to look back on the best interviews and conversations which took place on this equine form show over the past twelve months. But i'd be remiss if i didn't wish everyone a very happy opening day at the great race place. Santa anita in arcadia california five graded stakes are scheduled for today's opener. Including a trio of great ones. The la brea. The american oaks and the malibu. The race card has a first post of eleven. Am pacific two o'clock eastern so. Make sure you're locked into those races later today. They are some good ones too. I spent a lot of time walking back through every show from this past year. And i picked out five interviews. Which i considered to be among the best conversations in two thousand twenty. Let me tell you this was an excruciatingly difficult thing to do. My initial list actually consisted of fifteen interviews. But we need a much longer show to bring you all of them so today. You'll hear from hall of fame jockey. Chris mccarron arthur hancock from stone. Farm trainer charlie the prestige owner george bolton and celebrity chef and thoroughbred owner. Bobby flay plus a special industry star of the week which aired earlier this year. The other interviews. Which didn't make the cut. Only because of time constraints are all up on our website. And you can head back over and take a listen to them at your leisure. All you have to do is type in the names of these individuals into the search box to pull up the show or the individual or the individual interviews. Joe nevels from pollock report had piece called biting the dust the long goodbye to mount pleasant meadows. He wanted to clips award for it and he joined me in january and that was one of the interviews. I considered putting into this program but again in the interest of time. Couldn't do it at bowen. Join me on the show. A couple of times last year to look back on legendary horses and legendary people. In our sport allan sherman another one. That could have easily been in here. He along with his dad. Art train california chrome. He spent time talking about the big horse earlier. This year. older lee searing. That was a fun interview. He joined me for that interview when honor. Ap was making his way toward the kentucky. Derby and then five time major league. Baseball all-star victor martinez was fantastic talking about king guillermo and telling me the story of how he became interested in racing comparing. I'll never forget this. He compared the thrill of winning a race to the feeling of hitting a home. Run in a key situation in the leagues but again time-wise we can't fit it in today. Us senator andy barr spent time talking about the horse racing integrity and safety act on september twenty sixth that has now passed through the legislative process. As you're listening to this show here this morning. One interview which actually generated tremendous response. Was my one on one or onto interviews. If you will with announcers kurt. Becker larry comas looking back on calling. American pharaohs win in the two thousand fifteen breeders cup classic train around mlk wet after whitmore won the breeders. Cup sprint was a lot of fun. That was what his fourth attempt at winning the sprint. And in the veteran. Does it at billy badge talking about how gulfstream and racing and florida survived. The pandemic was an interesting interview. Two billion team deserve a lot of credit for everything that they have done in south florida early in the year when this first hit and then throughout the rest of the year all of those interviews could have easily been part of this best of show today but again you can listen to any of them anytime you would like on our website horse racing. Radio dot net so chris mccarron. We'll kick it off. That's a really really neat interview. Walking back through some of his top moments in some of the biggest races that they have in southern california. That interview comes up after our first commercial break. Arthur hancock from stone farm reflecting on sunday silence george bolton charleena's prestige bobby flay all in the second half of the show and again in between all of that. Our industry star of the week presented by stuart morris. It's a best of twenty twenty show here on the equipment forum this morning. We're back with more on. Hr airdrie studs. Cairo prince leading third crop sire by number of stakes winners stakes horses graded stakes winners and graded stakes horses. He's also a top five general sire by the number of winners so far in twenty twenty and his current crop of yearlings is his first conceived a twenty five thousand dollars stud fee yearlings from cairo. Prince's fourth prop sold for up to four hundred thousand dollars this year underlining. His incredible commercial appeal at fifteen thousand dollars stands and nurses for twenty twenty one cairo. Prince's value in the extreme standing at airdrie. Stud think about it pie. This is joe. Nicholson during these difficult times. The team at nicholson insurance agency says best wishes to all for good health. We can all look forward to better times ahead when this pandemic is behind us. 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Lobbying for a national testing lab to oversee and establish absolute uniform laboratory protocols advocating for every track to undergo an annual independent surface assessment passionately supporting off the track thoroughbred retirement facilities and adoption groups. And so much more see additional. Hp pa initiatives at national hp dot com racing fans. Don't miss opening day this saturday. December twenty six the day after christmas spectacular santa anita although there is still no public. Admittance you can watch every santa anita race free of charge at santa anita dot com slash live. And you can watch and wager at. I bet that's i dot com slash bet. Santa anita will present a total of six on opening gay highlighted by the great one. Run happy malibu. And two other great ones the la brea at seven furlongs and for the first time ever on opening day. The american oak said milem quarter on tur- tune in early on opening day. Special i post time for tremendous eleven race card is at eleven. Am and don't miss track announcer. Frank merrill mahdi and tom quigley as they handicapped. The opening day races beginning at nine fifty. Am i post on sunday. December twenty seventh is at eleven thirty. Am for additional information. Please visit santa. Anita dot com. Hi this is penelope miller. And you're listening to horse racing radio network white. Come on the outside to take the food. And i water rights this as just what. The wanted up chris mccann about that. The nineteen eighty eight big cap to say that eat handicap. Going to ellie sheba under hall of fame jockey. Chris mccarron who join me on the march seventh edition of the equine forum. That was big cap day at santa anita this year. Also san felipe a day with the grey to san felipe. Being contested by top kentucky derby hopefuls. Chris's currently seven all time among jockeys in terms of number of career. Wins seven thousand one hundred forty one winning rise for chris. Mccarron including three victories in the santa anita handicap and a record. Seven in the san felipe bay. Well chris stopped by the studio to look back on those memorable wins and he started by remembering the horse. You just heard in that race call coming out of the commercial break fellow hall of famer. Alysheba chris that little trip down memory first of all. Thank you for coming in here today. But that little trip down memory lane for you i just had to play that i mean that race alysheba so gutsy just all heart. Oh he sure was. He was really on his game at that point in his career and he he just Early in his career he would play around and and scoop around on the track. You know and not not win by very much. He'd always just get there and you think he's all out but he always had something left in the tank and he was. He could not have been better than he was. On the day of the cap. I watched that replay. A couple of times and ferdinand was kind of right off your flank to your outside turning for home. Do when you think back on that moment. Did you know he was right there. And that you were in for a little bit of a fight through the lane. I knew he was on my hip at the five eighth pole. Yeah really yeah. We turned down. The backside and i was laying. I was laying. Third and shoe was laying forth on on ferdinand towards the outside. And if you get a chance to watch replay you'll see shoes asking ferdinand to go ahead and go. After alysheba early. He started asking him around the five and a half down the backstretch and as we went along He he just kept pressure on us and and shoot tried to turn it into a match race which he pretty much did and good taste. also he didn't give up. He came back on again towards the end a little bit. It was funny though. Ferdinand doesn't like to win by didn't like to win. By very far and neither did alysheba so there was like okay which one wants to wants to win. The most and i think on the day probably had the more heart. It's a special day at santa needed today again. Big cap day. Were remembering the big cap with hall of fame jockey. Chris mccarron here in studio. You also have the san felipe. chris's won that race more than any jockey in history seven times. We'll talk to him about that here in a minute but your other big wins. You go from. Allie she but you come back with free house in nineteen ninety and then tis now in two thousand one. Would you remember those days. Oh free house ran a very very game race well he. He didn't win by very far. He only won by about a neck. I think Tis now he won fairly comfortably and what. How blessed was i to be able to ride. Horses specialists that race. The the big cap. I mean you participate in it. You want it. Wha what's it mean to racing in california it. That race was huge in my mind. ever since. the first time i wrote in the race was nineteen seventy eight. I moved my attack from maryland to southern california in march of nineteen seventy eight. I was actually march twenty. And the reason i know that day. It's my birthday. Happy birthday to make happy. Happy early. birthday but Yeah we vigers one that day and It was daraghmeh cards six winner on the card. He was leading rider at the time and vigers came from way way back he was twenty lays out of it with three eighths of a mile left to go and to watch that white tornado. Come flying down in the middle of the racetrack. Dave johnson called in here comes the white tornado fighters on the outside and it was so exciting so ever since that day. That racist meant a lot to me. When you're even though. I didn't win it that year. I it it was so there was so much hype about it. Yes it was so hyped up. And everything and i went from smaller tracks in maryland to the big time and so that that race holds a special place in my heart when you're on a horse in that horse levels out and he's giving you everything he has. What's that put into words for people that have never done that before. What's that feeling like. Exhilaration exhilaration comes from acceleration. If you will see. I'm a poet now right off but when when you going along in a big race like that everything's on the line. Sometimes horse of the year is on the line this so much competition in those grade ones like that. They're all good horses. That run in the races. All good trainers owners jocks. so it's always very prestigious to be able to participate in racist like that and The big cap is certainly way up on my list of races that i always desired to win and now i'm proud to say that i got three of them so you got three of those. You got seven san felipe bay victories. And when i called you yesterday to ask you to join me here on the program. I said okay. I'm going to give you a little trivia. Your first one was in one thousand. Nine hundred eighty two was the name of the horse and it took you all about ten seconds to come up with the name of the horse. You've got the owner. I that's right. I remember writing and mr hooper's colors the blue blue colours with red sleeves in a white circle. H on the back for fred hooper. He was one of the best owners in the country. Best breeders for many many years and back in the early eighties. He had a group of three year olds in his barn. That were really nice. Horses in advance man was the one who won the cilipi that day. He also had a horse called journey around that time. And he was in my. I'd say in my top five horses. I ever i've ever ridden so that was that was that was fun times back then but i'm ashamed to say a little embarrassed. Say i need a hint to tell me the so. I can tell you the last one i one on in the most recent the recent one thousand nine hundred eighty eight but ninety eight nine hundred ninety eight. Let's see i'll give you the did it give the owner paraneck stable our tax. There you go. Yeah i wrote him in the kentucky derby as well yep for randy bradshaw. It's interesting because the the horse that won the san felipe the year before free house. We talked about you writing free house to win the big cap. You didn't write them in the san felipe of the year. Before that was david flora's david floors wrote him and kennesaw a road them in the triple crown races. David rotem early on at santa anita as a three year old. I think eddie murphy even ridden him once or twice to yeah but He was a quirky horse. He was a horse. That didn't like to be hit and you had to be careful. He would run from the stick but not every time that you hit him. Would he run from the stick. You might tap him in here. Go ahead and move forward you feel the acceleration. And then if he felt an undue amount of pressure on him he kinda pinhas ears and sulk a little bit but He was a very talented racehorse though. After your first win with advancement in nineteen eighty two. You come back and you take the san felipe again. The following year with a horse by name of desert wind and he was a pretty good source. He sure was yeah. He won the hollywood gold cup as a four year old. Unfortunately i i wasn't on his back that daddy delahoussaye rode him in that race. But i was i wrote them in the sand philippi. I wrote him a kentucky. Derby wrote a practice. He was second there. And if i remember correctly. I think he finished third or fourth in the belmont but sometimes my brain works really clear in other times. It's a little fuzzy. We remember the winds easier than you remember the seconds though don't you this is true. How about Let me see. Who's your third one. Nine thousand nine hundred eighty six variety road. All i have for bruce handling headley. Yeah and shell cavalli the guy who owned Golden gate fields for a long time. Ver- variety road. He was a very nice horse and As a four year old on maybe what what. You're just saying. That was eight eighty six. Yeah okay. yeah on october. Fifteenth of ninety-six. I was on variety road in an allowance. Race at santa anita and i was the fourth rider to fall of a five horse. Spill and laffite was the fifth rider to fall and he came hurling hurtling through the air as i was rolling on the ground and he landed on my left leg and broken in four places. And i d. I missed the breeders cup that year. But i had a great opportunity Nbc hired me to do the color commentary with dick enberg all the races on breeders cup day. That was two weeks after. I get hurt so that was a great opportunity now. How great was that to work with. Dick enver unbelievable. What a perfectionist. I wouldn't be able to do something like that. He was awesome to be able to rub elbows with him. During the telecast was something. I'll never forget. Is it hard for a jockey. Sit there on sidelines and you want so bad as coal. Even though you're doing something like that with you don't even have to ask questions. Yeah it hurts. Yeah you get very jealous and you get you know i know. Jealousy is not a very good quality to have. But you certainly regret any kind of time that you have to take off when the big races are on the line obviously much prefer to be out there. But i had. I had a good second option for a job. The certainly did seven horses. Entered into this afternoon's san felipe bay. Authentic for bob baffert. Bob's won the race. A record six times look to make it seven later today but authentic couple of one of two horses entered for him. This is a horse that you were very impressed. With last time. I certainly was a horse that was in front all away. When drayton estimate run turn homey opened up seven lengths and then he started to duck around in and he looked like he was trying to prop which means halt abruptly He swerved in almost hit fence. A couple of different times Any still it. Despite all of those antics he still won comfortably by seven and a half lengths and he looked like a really good horse to me on that day. You don't like to see a horse misbehave like that. But that's an indication that he was a lot left in the tank. Yeah if you are going to misbehave you better win and win going away if you do it that way all the better right. Yeah no doubt about it. Hall of famer. Chris mccarron in studio with me here on the horse racing radio network again. A seven time winner of the san felipe. A three time winner of the big cap chrissy talked about your memories of the big cap and what it meant to you and to racing in california this day in particular especially considering everything that santa anita's ben through over the course of the past couple of years this day data celebrate everything. That's good about the sport. Oh without question. I wish i was there. I love these days. There'll be a good crowd out there. Today's supposed to have some really nice weather which they usually do But yeah. This is a very big day. All the jocks trainers and owners and fans get get really hyped up about who are some of the best young writers california today. Well drained very good writer. He rides authentic afternoon He certainly is a very good writer. They've got they've got a decent colony right now. I'm not exactly sure who would put on the top that guy that always kalomo and bay hirano and those guys that are always at the top of the list. Yeah well talamo is. He's like thirdly rodarte oakland park right now yeah. He moved his tact oakland. Then he's coming here to kentucky and so's bhairon read that in the in the paper last night this morning. Good to see him back in the bluegrass. Yeah yeah there's there's a lot of money here and the draw the lifestyle living here living conditions. Great i love it. I've been here for fifteen years now. And so i i wouldn't trade it for anything. Yeah nobody better than chris mccarron. I told you before. I had two favorite jockeys growing up before i started getting into or just as i started getting into horse racing. I had chris mccarron. I have mike smith though. You guys are my two favorites. Thank you very much. Sit here with you in studios pretty cool. I'm in pretty good company. Money might you are. He was in he was in saudi arabia. Along with you right. You weren't hammered him. yeah. I can't believe the fine and the suspension they gave. That was ludicrous. Ridiculous god two hundred sixty one thousand dollar fine and then eight days of suspension and stuff. I should know this. But i don't. I'm gonna ask you the question with a calendar days. He received or or race. That's a great question. I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. But that's very important because of its racing days and there are specific to the dates that they run in riyadh then mike would have to serve on those particular days right right so you're going out a couple of months. Yup yup that's true calendar allender days and the days will go by quickly enough. Yeah chris always love having you on board It's always fun to catch up visit with you and thanks for coming in to share a little little time with me this morning. Thank you so much mike. I always enjoy company hall of fame jockey. Chris mccarron joining me back on march seventh of this year. One of the really fun interviews. That i got a chance to be part of here on the equine forum and looking back on those winds in the santa nita handicap the big cap and then the san felipe bay as well in terms of what happened this year. You might forget john. Sadler has dominated the big cap. The last three years he won it in two thousand eighteen would accelerate came back and said a gift box last year. And then wins. It would combatant earlier this season. All for heroics racing. It's been a great run for them. Congratulations on their success in that race. And then the san felipe pay. You heard chris. When asked the question about the best. Young riders in california today talked about driven van dyke. He said he'll right authentic. He did he wrote him to victory in the san felipe bay. That would turn out to be the start. Well i guess he won the sham before that so maybe that was the official start but it was the third consecutive win to begin authentic career and it launched a campaign that see him win the kentucky derby and the breeders cup classic later in the season. And there's a pretty good chance. Authentic is going to be voted horse of the year in twenty twenty. No doubt champion three-year-old good shot. He's horse of the year as well and he won the san felipe. A back on march seventh came back. The following start was beaten in the santa anita derby by a horse named honor. And i told you that honore p is owned by lee hearing and that was one of the interviews of so fun for me. Didn't have enough time to get it in for you here this morning. Go to our website and you can listen to that interview with lease hearing as well all right time now for your lexus. Legends of the turf. Brought to you every saturday at this time by the lexus store of lexington where the people make the difference. When i come back you'll hear from arthur. Hancock looking back on the brilliant sunday silence. This lady had a wealth of character. A marvelous vibrant personality and she was indeed an inspiration to others. She was a lady through and through and the roaring nineteen twenties. Well cylinder twenty. She entered the world of racing as the owner of a steeplechaser or racing. Stable brooke meet came into existence. If you years later she was add burst upon possibly and took a delight in needling and openly deflating an obvious inflated ego or infectious sense of humor provided her the tool for doing so especially evident in times of stress perhaps equally as synonymous with brooke meets stable and success. where the names of president elliott burch. Who trained her horses. Preston began training for our lady of the moment in nineteen forty four and on october. Twenty first of that year he saddle her dear me for her in the maryland handicap at laurel. Dear me whip the redoubtable twilight tear by seven lengths in that affair and that was virtuous first of a long long list of stakes winners. He saddled for brooke made birch was very patient with young horses and he and are subject. Probably receive more thrills from a horse named sailor than any other racing in her colors that was in the decade of the fifties while others and her colors included sword. Dancer bullet flowers and oligarchy. Her superb flower bowl won the delaware handicap in nineteen fifty six and on may second nineteen fifty-nine sword dancer won the derby for her while on the very same day. Big effort won the better roses at the old jamaica racetrack on long island in nineteen nine hundred four. Our lady of the day as it were became the very first woman american turf history to lead the winning owners list or a bowl of flowers was voted philly. Champion of nineteen sixty and sixty one and sword. Dancer was voted horse of the year in nineteen fifty-nine. This marvellous lady dearly loved the thoroughbreds and among the many greats carrying her soaks to the winter circle. She considered her best to been cavalcade sailor. Sword denser and bolo flowers but she had a very soft spot for others including okapi sound glow and high quest and nineteen thirty four and sixteen years later in one thousand nine hundred fifty brooke. Mead was the leading money winning stable in america from nineteen twenty five until their demise in nineteen sixty two horses one one thousand one hundred and forty four races as previously indicated or trademark was love for and the ability digest with her trainers the virtues before big racist she would often break the tension in the paddock by saying for example quote. Do you think i should put on the blinkers today or quote. Now you haven't put that saddle on right on. Her jockey would appear. She could be heard to say quote now. Preston you step back. I'm going to give the order on how to ride this horse today with a twinkle in iraq of course and she would go on very solemnly to say quote. You just go out and win this race today. If it was muddy she would be quite apt to say now. Don't you dare get my colors dirty today. Yes this grand lady and that she was in every sense of the word through and through hell to the sporting ideals with the best characterized racing to. It's very best both in victory and defeat mistress brooke meets stable and the subject of this piece isabel. Dodge sloane a visionary design this arro- performance and imaginary technology that's lexus when every detail every moment and every emotion is crafted by lexus. It leads to amazing experience. Artistry then inspires design that compels and engineering that excites this. Is mike penna. And i can tell you personally. As alexis owner the enjoyment you'll experience from driving any of the lexus. Model lines is unparalleled. Visit the lexus. 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Old horse of the year and the only undefeated triple crown winner by sire of sires scat daddy justifies first bowls soul up to six hundred thousand dollars at the recent november sales. Well his info mayors were led by the three-time grade one winning daughter of uncle. mo bast. who sold for four point. Two million to spendthrift farm justify has covered over eighty grade one winners or dams or grade one winners in his first. Two years at ashford called the team at ashford. Today to book your mirror while there are still seasons available. Hi this is. Jackie rajiv mirage and olive listened to my friends on the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network side. Easy inspired away at this sunday. Silence but until contact with on the inside his opt out of it here on the inside the company and is with a sixty mile sunday silence. Throw this finish of the derby sunday silence. This got to be too late photograph. Easy core on the outside always firing at sunday silence. Easy firing one two three. Welcome back to equine forum. The horse racing radio network. Mike penner baranov the backdrop with you on this saturday morning. Best of twenty twenty. Show looking back on some of the top interviews from this past year. And that was dave johnson with the call of the kentucky derby sunday silence winning in nineteen eighty nine defeating. New york's easy goer and everybody else he would go on to win the preakness and then of course come up short. When easy goer turned the tables in the belmont stakes well with the kentucky. Derby postponed to the first saturday in september. Here in two thousand and twenty. It left quite avoid for racing fans on the traditional derby day this year so we decided to produce a special one hour broadcast of a fantasy derby which aired on the first saturday in may the field feature twenty of the greatest kentucky derby winners of all time selected by all of our wonderful listeners across hr a nation one of the horses that made the cut for the twenty horsfield was the one thousand nine hundred nine derby and preakness hero sunday silence and on april. Eighteenth eighteenth that addition of the equine forum. His owner arthur. Hancock took time to remember his great hall of famer arthur. Good morning appreciate the visit. Good morning how are you today. Things are great You know when. I say when you hear the name sunday silence all these years later. What are some of the first things that come to mind. Well just what a great horse he was and how much he meant to the family and You know he came along when times really hard and we you know gotten a lot of dead and the market has gone from what was worth a dollar to worth thirty cents and But just as an individual you know. I remember the day he was born. I remember the Thanksgiving when he had some kind of strange Colitis he was only full on the farm. That had it and The veterinarian about one o'clock and he'd give him twenty two liters of fluids. And i remember he said you little sob if you're gonna die or head and died and he just wouldn't give up and i mean looked you know. It was a weird thing and he was so sick and had terrible diarrhea. But watching any all thanksgiving morning and Just the courage he had you know he was he was like a light from format. And i made this sounds to politic kind of light from out of the universe he. He had such courage and You know raised him up as a yearling and just just to be around him. I mean was. It was a gift in itself you know. Just i mean he was a union creature. Yeah the heart that he showed even as a young horse on the farm. Battling through those health issues certainly served him well on the racetrack to fourteen starts. Nine winds five seconds. That's unbelievable never worse than second earned four point nine million dollars in his career and take me back to that to that day in nineteen eighty nine at churchill. Downs arthur may sixth He comes home. I in the kentucky derby look back on that day and what comes to mind. Well we we we were. I was so nervous. And i remember as about thirty six degrees and it was spitting snow and rain and sleet and freezing out there and you know we were up against the might easy goer. I mean he was touted to be the next man of war and I was fully prepared to you. Know get beat but I tell you. I had some confidence. Because i think it was on a tuesday or tuesday. Charlie breeze the horse and he went a half and forty six. And i bet you fifteen or twenty reporters came up and asked. Charlie said well Charlie go too fast and because it was a really good work. And charlie said no he just what we wanted and but a lot of people are skeptical and they said well he went too fast. You now allow. He left his race in that work. And on the way back to the bond. I said wait. You think charge. You think he went too fast. He said hell no. He said a good horse can do that. And i said well you are you please in. Where do you think trial. He looked at me. You had those twinkling blue eyes know and he said my boy we will get the money. Charlie you really think we can beat easy or he looked at me you know. He was a marine. He was tasked guy and he looked at me and that expression in his eyes and he said my boy. We will get the money. And so i had that it and the day of the derby and you know say were sitting there shaking or with the binoculars. It was cold nerves too. You know. I mean so much dependent on it financially and just everything else and you know we were up against mr phillips who was my dad's good friend clayton's best client and a lot of emotion there and So i mean it's just scary really but it was. It was like i. I've never been in a battle in war. But i sorta like. Maybe you'd feel if you went into that. Excel if you're not gonna get shot or anything but I just remember being real nervous and and then it all happened you know. Yeah how about the feeling when you watch him. Cross the finish line in front i. i didn't. I really didn't expect to win. I didn't expect we'd beat this horse because this easy goer was really really a great horse. And i just regress a minute. I wouldn't in louise restaurant one day seven months before that back in the thaw and my brother seth was in there and i said hey seth how you doing and i talked to charlie that morning charlie said this horse we got he said he he can really run. This is a good horse. Either and i said this was back i guess in the summer maybe do august something like that. Maybe september but said that's real good horse. We got out there. Got at there with charlie and says well that's too bad and i said well. What do you mean he said well. Mr philip says the best horse he's ever had. And i thought oh my god you know just my luck and sitting back passer. He says i think he's just something else. And ironically i had worked for the phipps for a year. After i got out of college actually care about passer help take care of him with the groom had walk him after a big races. But so anyway we you know we were going against what my brother. Who is a great horseman was a great horse. And i know sure thought so. And he was a great horse. And i didn't expect we'd win. And then when they were coming down the stretch and pad hit him you know And he's veered and then he hit him another direction on the other side need veered off a god. We're going to get caught. And i'll just happened so fast it was just a after it was over. I sort of incredulous. I really couldn't believe that we hit wanted. Because i knew what we were up against and And then i just was so thankful and you know. Just it's hard to describe you. You feel like you. Could you know after all you get down there. You just feel like you could walk on higher. I'd heard that feeling. But i had it three times with god. Odell saw eighty two and when my children were born i had that feeling and and when sunday silence one that therapy and having gone through you know raising the name and seeing him sick like that and been around him all he went through you know when we try to sell in california and they put him on van. Couldn't get him so to come back here in. The van driver had a heart attack a fatal heart attack and died and the land turned over and they had to put sandy silence in a clinic out there for a week and when he got back here farm you know we turned him. We veternarian call me. I wasn't here when i was an office when he got to the barn and he got off van vet called and said i this weidler. He's you know. Terribly off behind. And i thought oh gosh and i said well all we can do is just. Let's give him turning out and see what happens so we put him in about a ten acre paddock. And he you know he was off three or four days and i thought well that's not gonna make it and i guess about a week later that call me call mars and was his name and he said you wouldn't believe it he said. Come down here. Barnes sixteen and i went down there and there was at their galloping around. I mean it was a veterinarian veterinarians. A brilliant guy. He subsequently became a medical doctor and he said he'd never seen anything like it. I hadn't he just like he. You know and i'll never forget that it was a sunny day and he was galloping around that field so all those things you know when you raise your up with them twenty four seven and go through all those kinds of things and you see them win the kentucky derby. Oh man i mean. It's nothing no feeling on earth like it And you know we work. Twenty four seven on these farms. It's it's a tough deal that you gotta love it to do it and and So when he won that derby was like I mean the best thing in the world it could happen to you. You know seem like yeah. Well i'll tell you what. Arthur i told you when we talked on the phone yesterday when i asked you to join me and by the way thank you for taking the time. But i told you that. Sunday silence's among the twenty horses that made the cut a got enough votes to get into our 20-horse fantasy derby field so looking forward to seeing how fares against Nine of the thirteen triple crown winners. The filly winning colors That that field is as as salty as they come. And you told me that you think He probably wins it. Well that's probably. And maybe. Because i loved him. You know like your son or something you and maybe that's pride of ownership. I know that those other horses are all great horses. But i say something that charlie said he said charlie said this quote him directly he said some bitches says he won't give up and and that's why sunday silence was and When you when this the way i look at it he beat easy. Goer who was probably one of the greatest horses of all time had not been for sunday silence. Easy goal would probably be spoken of in the same breath as man of war around here in kentucky. because that's what he was hyped. Any was that we were. We were just you know a little bit better And we're able to beat him. So i would go back and i don't know this but all of the other horses there were great horses that are in this hypothetical derby but I'd say who did they beat and maybe they'd be too many grade horses. I know affirmed. Beat alley dr. Who was great horse. But you know. I think there's a lot that of course there's a lot to luck in the race and the trip and everything but i would just say ideas if if we were betting on it. I put my money on sunday. Sounds but we pride of ownership and it should be. You should defend your player. Like that. And arthur hancock with me here on h. r. n. Arthur can't thank you enough for the visit here. this morning. We could spend a couple of hours reminiscing about sunday. Silence and all the success you've had in the business. Hopefully we'll get a chance to do that. One day but Really appreciate you taking time here this morning. my friend. well thank you. And i could talk a couple of days about him so i hope i haven't been to to talking to you that He brings out a lot of emotions and he was a great horse. And i still thank god. Every day. I had him. Yeah no not at all and looking forward to my next to carl nascar coming up to look back on on bridal than his championship season of nineteen ninety so Should be a lot of fun. Well he'll probably tell you on. Bob hope is. I guess everybody has their as i say you gotta look at who they beat and i what. The news feed this end of that john computer they got didn't see what. See what it says. you know. Yup arthur appreciate it buddy. Yeah man take care and thank you for calling in and god bless be good arthur hancock from the april eighteenth edition of the equa- form this year. And yeah you know that. Other interview. With karl nascar was so enjoyable for me to you. You get a chance. Go back and listen to that. Whole april eighteenth edition. Because you get a chance to hear a guy like arthur hancock talk about the great sunday silence and then come right back with karl nascar looking back on unbridled and that memorable kentucky derby with this enter and winning the the emotion of all i mean it was that was so spectacular and that show is so much fun to do and say the the interview. Carl could have very easily made the cut for the best of two thousand twenty as well when i back a special industry of the week segment which aired on the february fifteenth edition of the equine forum. And then in the second half of the show. You'll hear from owner. George bolton trainer charlie lopresti looking back on the great wise dan and owner and celebrity chef bobby flay sharing his thoughts on thoroughbred ownership in on the belmont stakes. That interview is done in june of last year. 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Welcome back looking looking back of that back to back backs Looking back on the best interviews of twenty twenty here on the equine forum. Mike panel with you on this saturday morning. I also thought it would be appropriate to include a special industry star of the week segment presented by stuart morris. Who offers a boutique. Full-service bloodstock operation. He wants to his owners his clients and his team. He knows his success is because of you. Multiple stakes horses over the past three years. Include henley's joy. Our brain trust malagasy ghazi in south bend stewart. Morris is your source for success at the highest levels. You can visit the stewart morris consignment at all of the major sales on february fifteenth. Bobby newman got a chance to visit with. South castanos ose. Who is the longtime barn foreman for mark hennig and he is one of the folks who don't always find themselves in the spotlight in the sport of thoroughbred racing. But that is why he is a very special industry star of the week. You and mark. Hanna both worked for wayne lukas for a time mark ends up deciding to go on his own. How how did that work for you were did you stay with wayne for awhile. Did you go directly with mark. What was that whole transition period. Like no actually. I do go back to mexico after where for a win for a little while and then i come back to america and after working for his trainer. Name is danny pipes for a little while. I worked with any pieds. Actually that was funny. Story between danny and when i was working for danny as danny if ever win the kentucky there with you this finally it sounds weird but i say avi like so happy. I'd be running naked all of the racetrack. Because he'll have the biggest race for my for me and for him actually. In that time. I was working for any place for little while and then actually mr by for maybe three months pursuit for shook my i to robert horse for chicago. He to be approved. She would tropical locks and color a window without philly and also denny pieds a rub capote automobile. Who was she wanted task in saratoga in eighty seven and So yeah. I don't wanna do this all my life like robin horses. He'll be a walker. I to do a little more than i want to prove myself. I can do more than that. And pro my family. My dad was proud of me. And i'll try to try something else after racetrack but it wasn't me you know. I love horses that had to come back to the track and come. I'm back to more to mario's already trained in that. Come to mars one and asking for job actually the system back then and she higher miss america and then i was walker for three weeks and then The form the form in mexico for a vacation in march asked me they feel. I can help him whether the sheriff little bit where they guy come back so thanks to him or he never come back. So i see that. Keep the foreman john. And then the not that coming up assistant sitting here in barn twelve backstretch at gulfstream park alongside solid. Kosta yano. so you mentioned working for several trainers before eventually settling down here with mark and you mentioned a few of the horses that you had been around either. Were in the shadow or personally that you that you would rub that you were the groom for such as capote belle. What kind of relationship does the groom have with this horses and you personally it not just the ones that. Turn out to be stake winners. But how close are you with the horses. You're taking care of on a daily basis while really close with. We worked with each other every day. Everyone is forced thing. The horse the first person that does horses see in the morning of course is this like Part of the you but oh you live. Are you family. You come in the morning. Turn the light on and the horse thing is you. Actually this is a really good connection. The group spend more time with the than anybody else. Yeah degrom degrom knows irritate bruno's if the horse aid if the horse was acting different than it was before if the horse drinks water for the horse don't sleep well you can tell because the store looks like don't even move in the saw. His really asthma is because Degrom is really really religious apart of Horse really really a one of the biggest part of the racing industry people. Don't get to know the grooms there. They don't get a lot of publicity but they do a whole lot of the work and it's something. It's not a monday through friday forty hour week job. No definitely seven days a week and twenty four seven twenty four to seven because I said if being been an assistant if you have a problem. I hope never happens but i mean if you are with wars how the first one there's grooms are living next to the barn so i was not gonna everybody's doors you know like the groups come out and help me out. Yeah should be a little more recognized that the people of the groups and workers the how work is in a great job to you know they were part of the really important part of the horses to in. Yeah you you say what the who with does second a horse race. I don't wanna look bad. And i hope nobody just me for this but i mean i don't like i don't feel good too with the assistant myself sometime Take the horse from the groom. The groom working seven days a week with the horses and for one day they wanna show on over there in front everybody they wanna looks like they're the man gra. Rob this horse. I'm i'm take care of this horse. You know yes i don't. I don't think it's a good idea with somebody assistant. Foreman take the horse. Groom and a lot of a lot of time. They do that. All right saw castanos a special guest of the horse racing radio network. Bobby newman again. My thanks to him. For providing that interview that aired on february fifteenth this year and it came about because of my involvement with godolphin awards. When i was a judge for the finalists last year and it gave me the idea that we should have a segment dedicated to those individuals. And i know that that the industry star of the week we focus on trainers and owners and and things like that too but next year will be starting a segment here on this. Show starting january ninth called unsung heroes presented by clayborn and it is going to focus on the folks like some people that are grooms exercise riders hot walkers and starting gate crew members and farm employees. That really helped make this sport successful but don't always find themselves in the limelight. We're going to do that with unsung heroes. Starting next year. It'll be a brand new segment here on the equine form. So stay tuned for that. It's all presented by our friends at kleber time now to get set for our number two. It includes george. George bolton charlie the presi. I'm bobby flay. I'll tell you more about that. Right after i pause ten seconds for station identification from the rail to your radio. This is the horse racing radio network and probable than global campaign tacitus. Ten the law behind ofek who strides away and the keeneland sunset. John velazquez authentic has won the long gene breeders cup classic got to my doctor post had booked up outside of the second pneumatic pastor the as. Good your chance up bow stacks. Welcome to the equine. Forum is running fast down the center of the course tarred not what past magical has caught channel maker tar nah moves on by tar noah and colin keen to win the long gene turf order of australia looking for a huge upset. Here order of australia gets that upset at seventy three zero one four pierre charlotte budo. Who's having white of breeders cuff. Now here's mike peta. Welcome back hour number. Two of this. Best of twenty twenty edition at the forum. Mike pence baron of the back with you on the saturday morning and happy to have you with me again. Merry christmas and happy new year to everybody across hr nation. And don't forget if you missed any portion of this show all you have to do is head back to our website. Horse racing radio dot net. You can check out the podcast at your leisure. The first half of today show featured my interview with chris karen from march of this year looking back on alysheba and his big cap wins. Wins in the san felipe. Arthur hancock sharing his memories of the great hall of famer sunday silence and then so cast a janos as our industry star of the week again. That podcast will be up at ten o'clock eastern. You can head over to horse racing radio dot net and check it out actually shortly after ten o'clock eastern this morning. Don't forget if you missed our trainer. Talk show this past week. You want to head back to to our website and check out trainer. Talk to you can listen to all of our trainer talk episodes if you want to binge listen you can do that. Jamie beg longtime assistant to mark. Cassie and roger ashfield was my special guest for the full hour. In some great stories he was excellent and he is now out on his own. So all the best jamie and In that interview on trainer talk all right second. Half of the show. Kicks off with george bolton. You're going to hear from charlie. The prestige looking back on wise dan and owner and celebrity chef. Bobby flay george bolton has been part of so many good horses really good horses in the sport of thurber racing. He's been involved with them as as an owner in recent years he join me on the may thirtieth equal forum to share some of his favorite memories and talk about his philosophy when it comes to buying an owning racehorses and on that show poll question that i asked of all of our listeners was to let me know about the greatest race. You've ever seen in person. So i figured who better to share a few thoughts on that topic. Then the man himself. George bolton and for our special guests that kicks off the second half of the program george bolton there have been many many races that he has witnessed that had been memorable for him. I'm sure and he is with me now. Here on h. r. n. george good morning. Hey good morning how are you. I'm doing great. Thanks for taking a few minutes here today. How about that question george. If you were to think about the greatest race you have ever witnessed in person. What do you think it might be. Well you know. I mean they're all so you have different moments. But i mean i would say the factor breaking his maiden in one. Oh six point nine eight. Santa anita was a you know a world event i would say the curl in winning the preakness. When you've got passed and repassed street sense right. The wire in two thousand seven was you know being from a farm in maryland. Was you know. Obviously a dream come true. So i've been very spoiled and then as you know a child you know i would say that you know what i went to want to watch the races pimlico as a little kid and watch the big is run in the preakness when i was like eight and you know that was most exciting thing i've ever seen in my life. So you know. I have different memories from great situations. And lastly mentioned you know winning a royal ascot with lady a really. It was one of the greatest moments ever so horse. Racing's brought me to great places. And i'm thankful georgia and you mentioned you know. Being from a farm in maryland. You grew up on a forty five acre farm and Started off on the euro. Writing and fox hunts in those types of things. Your father perry won the maryland hunt cup in nineteen ninety eight so you were kind of born into horse racing in in some respects. How cool is it now to have your name associated with so many of those memorable moments that you just talked about. Well i think that as a fan to think about me you know. I'm walking into the paddock. And see a horse as a guy who rode horses who all too. You got a horse bathed and you know i actually. When i talked to people like bob baffert about my horses. You know they know that you know. I know what they're talking about. If horses off or worse has heat somewhere in an ankle or you know what i mean. I'm a horsey type owner versus a racing form type. You know what i mean you know. I really loved my horses. And i'd say the one thing i always recommends you ever get a nice horse. Go spend time with go to the back side. I go watch every race. Enjoy the winds. Try to get through the losses. But don't just do it on tv and the sport is fabulous on tv. But i would say the greatest moments i've had of course just because i was at the race track going through the nerves of being an owner which are very different. When you're there in person did you. As you were growing up around horses george. Did you always anticipate that may be some day. You might actually be involved with owning thoroughbreds. It's kind of complaints of lucky. Event will farish. His father will farish Who we've building lanes end at the time. We went to the university of virginia together so he was buying seven farms and putting them into one beautiful farm lanes and farm and bill was the one who called me to get into the horse bist so one he was at the high end to. He was asking me to buy a small piece of philly that was in europe. They could already already one ron and one and we brought her to the united states named symbolic so we got off to a great start. One a grade. Three racist keeneland called the witch. And you know when you start off to the right way and thing. It makes a big difference in horse racing. You know you need to have some luck and you need to keep your numbers down and so the good horses. Don't get diluted by too many that can't run and you know it's it. I've been very lucky to get in with someone at the highest end. That could really create value if you did it right. Yeah this this is a game that it's often said features the highest highs and the lowest lows. You've experienced both of those in this past week. The news coming out about undefeated nidal. Who was the points leader on the road to the kentucky derby That he would now be retired following a conjure fracture and surgery that he had for that injury in a workout. This past week when you get that phone call george as an owner. That kind of news Boy what's the what comes to mind. I mean what what goes through your mind when you get that phone call. Well i mean it's your. It's not your biggest nightmare because he did not suffer a compound fracture and he's stable. He's happy in his stall. I called this morning to make get a report for you. he Actually win. The two screws were put in The basically hairline and his left front ankle he immediately was stable and comfortable Versus uncomfortable with a hairline being open so baffert said it was about this very interesting once the screws go in. He's walking sam. He's standing sound so he's going to have a thirty days of stall rest and then he will become stallion and kentucky and we're talking to farms right now but you know the phone call came and you know when it's early in the morning it's either a great work or something happened. And he called me and he says it's got hurt and you know you just sank very low and your charity and try to get your breath and you know then the next question of courses are you're gonna make it the okay you said. Yeah we we before this thing. Quote unquote displaces. We gotta get into surgery and get this thing supported by a pen or two and it took too big screws. I actually sent to the blood who are so. They could see it. You know what. I mean to get the facts out right. So it's run ankle It was a devastating phone call. But when you have to kind of sit back and think well you went to bob baffert. He started january nineteenth and he won four races in a row. Capping it off with a grade one derby day and and and so as an investor in the horse you know he created great stallion value already to he's stable and okay and and obviously you know. This is the saddest part of the business that you know when they take a thirteen hundred and twenty five pound animal now. This horse is about two hundred pounds bigger than any other worse than the pack. Okay there horses at nine fifty two thousand fifty eleven hundred but thirteen twenty five. He has demarcus ware. jeremy shockey. that's the athlete. He is a human being. And so you know left front ankle takes pressure going around left hand dirt. And that's what gave way here and so you go from crossed to make sure the horses. Okay you know and and then you just have to look back on the great times. He gave us and thank the lord. I actually got up off my couch and went to watch them. Run four times and i think that's the nicest part of my story with him as i got to know him. Well i was with him ten times on the backside and he goes off to be a stallion and i knew much more than just a bet at the track. You know what i mean. Yeah yeah it really special horses. It is devastating for everybody. That's involved an interesting for the sport to. I mean he had a horse. That and you know i said at the top of the show george. What if the derby were run on may third. Would we be talking about your abdal. Wonder you just want the one. I won the arkansas derby. The kentucky derby the day of the kentucky derby and i think the saddest part and i didn't wanna be bringing the showdown here with this but this is gonna be a great race between him and his the law in the bell right now. I don't shy from these things. And neither does my trainer bob baffert so you know we're going and it was just great for the sport and grade for television which obviously had a rerun of the super bowl from last year competing with the arkansas. There'd be live. I had sixty eight tax after the worst one. Forty from non horse people right meaning. That people were watching worse racing because it was live and those was exciting right so you know we lost a great actor in our show here right and it's it's sad for horse racing and and again you know. I'm very sad about those races. Not taking place. Because i was excited to see what would happen and i think a lot of people were to talk with owner george bolton here on the horse racing radio network at georgia i remember in two thousand eleven when the factor who you referenced earlier was being point for the kentucky derby after displacing i remember he displaces palate. The arkansas derby and bob said that he felt like he just wasn't ready for a race late the kentucky derby in your quote. I'll never forget. You said that you were relieved to hear that. News obviously not relieved the news to dull a different situation. But being a horseman. I i thought that was a very interesting. Take on your part. Well i mean obviously it was a very interesting day because an hour after we scratch the horse churchill. Downs took my seats away. So i was like already on the ground. You're throwing water on the rest. Count the tenured. Five george church thousands of bolton We've taken your seats away from kentucky derby and the next year twenty one and that was that was a big uppercut The two in a row that day. And why did you. Why did i answer the question of whether it did well. The point was that horse wasn't acting right. Any turns out. I think he cracked his ankle. Waiting ten minutes and the start at the rebel and he wouldn't go to the racetrack for the whole month of Kinda mid my march to april and dana. Dana rider couldn't get me to go to the racetrack and bob thought he was being soft. When is it took us four nuclear scanned pass but after the arkansas derby not only did he flip as palate but he also had a crack in his ankle designated time. So you know what. I always say to people about the kentucky derby as you go into that saying eighty percent you can have a horse as traumatic physical or mental problems out of it. So you don't want to go unless you really really live. And i think that's kind of what i meant that day. Is it like you show up in these big ones. The preakness that berg derby the breeders cup things where they're seven horses. That are almost undefeated. You know you have to be really if the on your a game and You know that worse obviously went south after the rabble and came back to be a great sprinter later in the year and I think with the fans need to know. Is those the ups and downs racing to kind of stay with you. I mean the dow goes to be a stallion. Got no action right. So it's a you know it's a it's a sad day. The day happens when it as yes do question and then it kind of wears on you a little bit. When you're out of the game you know so you know every every day that you have a great win is practice in this game. And every time. I went to grade one people looking at me like you seem so happy and i'm like i'm happy because we have the resume we of done before. Anything happened that when adverse here and when you get the call on the dow you realize how fragile the industry is. Maybe these are big animals with small legs in comparison to the size of their bodies and and obviously a lot of great horses and their careers with injury Most modest. But i mean you know you've read very rarely heads to kentucky you without any issues and three years racing so you know again. It's you got to be fragile with these animals and you gotta press when they're really right when they're not right. You got back off. Does bob still have the same ringtone for you when you call them Do either the Austin powers yeah. Yeah i mean. Bob i was you know always with bob and dubai when he had a heart attack so i mean he and i have been through more than a losing a horse race. You know what i mean and self even you know and again the way he is. He's so good he just calls and get it done. You know bam horses heard. Here's what we're doing. And and he he. He deals with very straightforwardly. And he's straight up you know and again you know bob baffert i went and tech the stats on this. We have an eighty percent win rate together since two thousand and three so there. You can name the horses. Cotton bay roman ruler. The factor the dow. He's really in a league of his own. Yeah keep that partnership going. George bolton me here on h. R. georgia pilots. You go Somebody comes to you as perspective new owner looking to get into this game. What do you tell them. Well the first thing i'd say is it. You know by a third of three horses three years right the dollar amount you can afford versus one and and and so if you spend your bats and on third three horses over three years the chances of very good horse happen know who you're getting into business with and know that if you got into one of those horse racing partnerships which do good accounting for you and can help consolidate your training and transportation bills and get your understanding that whole world. They do mark up their horses. So you need to check to see how much they mark those up. So those are my two things to be aware of you. Better off owning a piece with friends. And you're definitely need them tech the markups on any of those partnerships that that they kind of create a nice product for you to see you know you got a chance and then last thing and i think this is the most important you probably want to be. Eighty percents phillies is. If something happens to them they get broodmare. Value and twenty percent colts. You know because the colts get hurt. You're handing a cult the school riding program right so anyway. That's the you know that's a way to keep your apple in better shape and my other thing. Is that if i is going to be. Huge for horse. Racing is gonna be Laurel pemba koby and redone Obviously horse racing on online betting going to continue to explode and so it's an and worldwide racing in invitationals are exploding at the high end. If you like that. So whether it's where last guy or you know the melbourne cup you know there are other festivals around the world that are very very inviting and fabulous too. So it's actually a great time to enter the sport As an owner george bolton wonderful ambassador for the sport of thoroughbred racing always so positive. And george can't thank you enough for spending a little time here and again my my my thoughts are with you on the doll that that is really some hard cheese there. But i know that you're gonna come out the other side and Looking forward to the future of the george bolton runners coming up over the next several years great. Well thanks for having me and love your show george from our may thirtieth edition of the equine forum. When i come back you'll hear from trainer charlie prestige looking back the brilliant wise dan. 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This is bob baffert. You're listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network the now wise. Dan looks for running room but he's still six between horses. Six off the lead a quarter mile dot com and they've all got a catch silver. Max who's chased by siad then brand arts wise. Dan down the outside the leader coming to the eighth pole. Here siad alongside of silver max granddaughter. Take again diving to the rail late. Wise dan for outside wise dan. Coming after siad and brand arch. Why's dad gets his head in first million dollar race and keeneland history the shadwell turf mile wise dan with a breath taking stretch rally. Welcome back to a special best of twenty twenty edition of the equine forum mike pence burner. The backstretch with once again was kurt. Becker with the call of the two thousand fourteen shadwell turf mile at qinglin. Wise dan joining do money and gio ponti is the only horses to win that prestigious race twice earlier this year it was announced that wise. Dan would be inducted into horse. Racing's hall of fame the brilliant and courageous son of weisman's vary took his trainer. Charlie the prestige on the ride of a lifetime and on may ninth. Charlie join me on this show to tell you all about it and with me now is the man who knows him as well as anybody. That's his trainer. Charlie lopresti charlie first of all. Congratulations my friend. What an honor. Oh thank you yeah. It is an incredible honor. And a half or so that caliber. And he still with you to this day isn't he he's farm. He's turned out with his brother successful. Dan at all did you. Were you the one to break the news to him. That he was in the hall of fame are they gave me probably get before i did but i. I was in petting him yesterday. Did he get a few extra carrots. Or what his favorite treat. Oh he kinda likes to go out on grass and roll around in the mud. That's just happy thing in the chase's brother out. Well he can roll around in as much mud as he wants to and he can do it for the rest of his life as a hall of famer pretty special stuff two time horse of the year in two thousand twelve and in two thousand thirteen champion older male and champion male turf horse in both those years and you know one thing that strikes me is that is tremendous in. Its own right. But charlie when you think about the racist that he won twice that which is so hard to do. Horses like the racist like the woodbine mile in the shadow turf mile. And the makers forty six the woodford reserve the four star david firecracker i mean come on. That's that's stuff that legends are made of well. I hate to brag on him. But you know when you look back on it. I was telling Rave this morning we're talking. You know you just forget about the races. And then all of a sudden some like came and put that thing on their web page in started looking back at all races and then you look at the cup mile twice put buying races like say to duplicate it and come back and whether it's a good trip bad trip toast head post he just pulls it off. What was it that way made wise. Dan such good racehorse. I think he just had an amazing amount of ability Any had a big heart and desire to win. Like johnny velazquez used to say he knows how to win races. Yeah and he wants so many big ones throughout his career. Do you remember the very first time you laid eyes on him. Yeah we had him from when he was a winning And we raise them their on farm. And i'll be honest with you if somebody says we'll go back to the beginning. Did you ever think he was that kind of Even when we broke him he. Just you know big pretty chestnut horse. But i mean. I can't say that i said well. This is going to be a champion of the caliber that he isn't even when we had him at the track to You know we they dang -ly He really didn't get it all together. What really came together was his three year old year. The winner of history role year february march. We started brees in him Then we could see that. He had some talent but he was difficult to deal with too. I mean he was just really really really strong and wanted to do more than you wanted a horse to do. It hasn't run yet. But looking back on it i never realized you know his stride in the efficiency of his stride That would gallop fourteen. Thirteen her long. And that's just the way he traveled. I mean he just a big long striding powerful horse. Yeah you know. He won every surface. We have in the sport but when he first started his career in two thousand ten he was competing in great stakes races. That were were sprint races on the dirt. What led you to think that maybe that was going to be his calling before you switched him over to the grass in longer races. Well if you if you look back you know we ran him. Hadn't we would. It wouldn't came them with. Synthetic we could train here all winter on the main track We had him ready to run and it worked from the gate one morning. Like fifty change from the gatewood another horse and i liked. I mean he did it he did it really easy. I mean it wasn't like we asked you to do that. So long story short. We put him on. You know we wanted to get started and we ran of a turf way. I think it was the into several. Probably any got beat down on the inside. He kinda ran a little green. You know we just think he winds up being fifth fifty fourth. I can't remember And then we ran him personally again on the spiral day. And that's when he won by fifteen lights In the second start and that was the race. That i've kind of looking for the first time you ran the way. He had trained and Then we couldn't running back in and allowance race and the keenum because the rates go to random church derby day and that was i think that was maybe seven furlongs i see and and that was on the dirt on that day impression again and then he came back and he was a little bit often is been and we've found the beginning cover hairline cracks in the heinkel and so we haven or some off in We got started. Well i'd say spring off and then we start training for the fall. Any train so good that i told mr frank. I said this is amazing. We all just running in the Steak rice their team. And then did he warned that the phoenix any wind up in the brewers cup sprint. Just just amazing to think about the way things come together for a horse like this and then to see the success that he had as he continued temperature. Charlie when you hear the word wise dan and you reflect upon his career what are a couple of the moments that are always gonna stand out. I guess you know the biggest i get. There's so many charter. To think of you know. Talk about him. But i guess when he came back from colic surgery and he went to saratoga and he won there That was just. I mean horses. Just don't do that. They you know they just don't do that but there's so i mean it's hard to say there's so many of them i can tell stories and i could talk for hours about it. You know how he got in grass races in in in what he what he went to woodbine and what he did what he went to The british cops and he was just a horse that every time every time you loaded him into gate you knew he was going to run his rights with that family because his brother who you mentioned successful dan who is with him now on the farm and they get to be together which is so cool but he was. No slouch either. I mean he won. Eight fifteen starts. He earned just shy of a million dollars in his career There's just something about that family. Well i can tell you a successful ban in and there's a few people that have been around successful than lake road comedy road. Wise dan The groom's my assistance that were around him successful. Dan was every bit as good. Or maybe even a little bit better. And i know that's crazy to say but he was plagued by injuries. I mean he was just not the sounders horse. I if if he was a of scuppering and you go that he'd be fort larded mutual macho man. I mean it just every time you get to erases out of them. He would have to put him on the shelf again. And that's what really hurt his career. I think he. I feel pretty good that he would feel pretty certain that he could have won. Breeders cup yeah. He was outstanding and now they had the two of them together. Be able to look out and to be able to go visit the two of them on your farm The again i talked about the things that movies are made of that there might be a wise dan movie at some point. I think there probably should be where somebody said that. Me your write a book about him and You know we got a lot of stories to tell a lot of stories that that a lot of people don't even know about. What's your favorite wise. Dan story to tell i guess. Well i will tell you my favorite wise day in story we were at woodbine. There was a tenement came by the barn. And he said there's a little girl that would love to see lies. Dana's earn any way that we could get her pitcher with him. And i said in a mom was with the man and so we'll bring you out here and his her mom just kinda stood there and didn't say anything any talk me off to the side and he said well she's in a wheelchair and i said well. Where's she at well. She's parked out there on the road at a minivan. And so even i i should. We'll tell you what we'll bring him out there. Can you get her to come out. We'll get a pitcher. And so we brought laws. Dan around to round the front of the barn and we went out in the parking lot and they open the back door side where the mini van and they had a ramp and they rolled her out on the ramp to the ground. And most are that would be. I mean they spoke run away from wise. Dan took raven and drug us. Right to to the The the girl in the wheelchair and he put his head down in front of you oughta seen the smile on her face and and the pitcher it was just it just it. Would it brought tears. The is we told that they said after the woodbine race up in the director's they they interviewed me and they said well as the best thing about you know this race today. I told that story in the whole the whole place just stood up and applauded. And that's probably one of my best lies in stories. Charlie thanks for making me tear up on a saturday morning. Appreciate that my friend. Maria l. I mean there's always liked it. I can tell you things about that. I mean he was just a different different type or she he just he. He was just different. Not only was a good racehorse. He was really smart. Any had unbelievable personality well and now a well deserved honor of being in the hall of fame. Charlie i asked you before. I let you go one last question but i asked you about wise. Dan getting the news that he was in the hall of fame. How did you find out that he was in this year. Well i got a call on wednesday from them And they told me that he was going to beat. You told me had ninety four percent of the votes. But they didn't want it. You know publicize until wednesday But i mean i. That's that's how i knew. And i always felt like that. That he should be you know as his train It's kinda hard to say that. Because you know i'm biased about him and and i still think he's one of the best horses that we've seen in a long time and i know we've had some really good horses here triple crown horses but i mean that. He did everything that he was ever asked to do. And like i told you there's a little log on to come back from colic surgery that summer invasion we'd be called on days after surgery. Come on back to. The army bounced off the trail. Like nothing happened as i talk. This whole should must be made of iron or something. Yes special horse in special trainer to charlie presi here on the horse racing radio network. Charlie listen i. I can't thank you enough for spending a little time here looking back on the big horse. And congratulations to you to your family to your team and to wise dan on that tremendous honour. Well thank you so much. It means a lot to me to be on your show and talk about him. Well you want to talk about a person. that's a great ambassador for the sport of thoroughbred racing. There are several. And you've heard from them on the special edition of the program this morning but charlie lopresti is as good as it gets wise. Dan was as good as it gets. And that's why he is in the hall of fame and a very special honor to charlie's well my thanks to him for taking time for that interview back on may ninth of this year when i come back. It's celebrity chef and owner bobby flay. That's next on the forum on h. r. n. Adena springs stallion macho macho man. Tough sound durable winner at three four five and six who competed in all three triple crown races before turning three years old and captain stellar career with a determined victory. In the breeders cup. Classic over champions will take charge and declaration of war. Is they want muccio. Macho man produced to first crop grade. One winners one on dirt. Mo jo stone got not pegasus world cup by five lakes in one. Hunter and california bred macho unusual all the way in the rodeo drive. The number one north american sire by twenty twenty average earnings per runner. Is joe macho man. 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Two million to spend through a farm justify has covered over eighty grade one winners or dams grade one winners in his first. Two years at ashford called the team at ashford today to book your mirror while there are still seasons available as jerky julian lopo. And you're listening to edge out. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network now things the at the quarter pole top of the home stretch. Dame's north bobby. Flay delays wing into the far outside. She goes from third to second and up a challenge of duty. The reigning champion female sprinter moonlit troll the longshot python but third worthy inside an incredible spinning too late from tweet before stained towards the cutie. Beauty is very game. Troll bird downs with a lion. It is dame northeast prevailing by for owner. Bobby play trainer. Taught what you're and jockey bobby air delano. Well that is truly one of the moments. I will never ever forget when i think back on everything. We've been part of here on the horse racing radio network not necessarily because of dame dorothy in that winning effort in the two thousand fifteen humana staff but because that was the year that i was joined by kurt becker and jude fell than the booth. At churchill downs for our broadcast of the kentucky derby and the undercard stakes one of those was that great one humanity staff and dame dorothy who owned by celebrity chef. Flay as you just heard got the victory. When i threw it to larry columnist for the call of that race. There was no audio coming through and on radio. That ain't a good thing. Well kurt becker. Immediately leaned over picked up his benach. Yalies hadn't looked at a horse hadn't memorized a name other than the fact that we had talked about the race on radio didn't prepare for it as a track. Normally would he picked up the binoculars. He called that race so beautifully so flawlessly it was one of the true highlights of my broadcasting career. And i played the clip of kirk calling that race that you just heard. But i played the full clip for bobby flay anchored by our coverage and all those things that surrounded the race. Call an bobby join me on this. Show june twenty so he got a chance to hear it for the very first time. That was on belmont stakes day. This year remember. The belmont was shifted to june twentieth. He had obviously never heard that call. So i started the interview by asking him about that race before. I finally spent some time looking back on. Bobby's favourite belmont stakes memories. Dave dorothy the winner per bobby flay. I don't typically like to make our guest wait all that long where we get him on the line. But i thought bobby might enjoy hearing that from our two thousand fifteen broadcasts of the derby undercard the humana distaff and dame dorothy win. We went to the call and there was a glitch in the audio. No audio but they goodness kurt. Becker was sitting next to me. He picked up the binoculars. Hadn't looked at a horse and it was just remarkable. Bobby i bet you've never heard that version of that race before. No i was actually wondering. How did i miss that. One that was that was the best yet. Yeah i'm sure you have. What a day. That was Yeah amazing just amazing. Derby day The danger at the named. After my mom i was just a great way to you. Know when a grade one. That's sure how special was dame dorothy she could really run she's You know fastest source. I've ever owned for sure I still have her. She's she's producing You know really good racehorses. I mean she her first foal Just ran second in devoted. Dallas year Her name is spices. Nice actually the the laws who bought who bought Bought her actually named her with me and mine. They say naming her spices. Nice which was really nice to do and and you know she You know she kinda goes in and out of being on the kentucky oaks trail pending on when it's going to be run and And so it's nice to see her progeny start to you know start to show themselves as as as as much as As well as well she was on the tracks to you. Don't you told me a few years ago when we sat down at the phase of tipton saratoga sale that your approach to this game when you got involved as an owner was to buy phillies as opposed to colts for the most part Is that still the approach. That you're taking bobby. One hundred percent my approach. I mean i like i like the breeding you know probably as much as the racing and And i always have an eye on you know well pedigree phillies and so now have have a band of about eight or nine. You know really great families and so you know being able to produce you know if you know you know fabulous falls from from these bloodlines. It's to me. It's it's all the funding and he start actually creating your own families in thoroughbreds and When i think about you know you think about like legacy. And you think about like history and stuff like that. Like when i see dame dorothy you know When a grade one. And then she has progeny. That can now seem what seems like they can run to You know and i have a daughter. Who's you know in early twenties. And so i just think about you. Know sophie bring out of these. You know the daughters and granddaughters of these horses that you know we we bought you know years and years ago so that that to me is the is the fun of this whole thing I love the. I love the pageantry of horse racing. Unfortunately nobody can actually go to the races right now but i was actually watching ascott before you call me you know. It's just know. We took horse to ask i in two thousand and eleven after we wanna breeders cup juvenile sali's race as a two year old took her took it to the coronation. She didn't run that well but it was. It was an amazing time. You know like my whole my whole family went you get dressed up. You make a week out of it. You're in you're in ascott. Hang out in london. I mean you know these horses can take you on amazing adventures that just enhance your wife. and you know those are those are kind of memories that you'll have forever. Yeah for people that haven't heard by the way sharing was running in the coronation stakes. Just a short time ago. She ran a great race. Came up a little short. She's finished second in that race. But boy you talk about special phillies. There's another one bobby. Yeah for sure. sharing sharing. Yeah oh yeah yeah. She just ran really well. I just think that You know actually Graham's daughter jane motion is good friends with my daughter. there is sort of running mates with races and and I just. I sent her a text. I was like daddy's on tv. And then she sent me a video taping her dad being on tv. At every everybody's in tune. But i think that. I think that sharon ran a fantastic. Actually i think that the horse that one had the better tripped on the inside. Seems like the inside The inside asked got seems to be carrying them a little bit little bit. Further talking with bobby flay here on the horse racing radio network bobby. You mentioned earlier that you can't go watch your horses race. Now for the most part most race tracks owners are still not allowed. They won't be allowed in for the belmont stakes today because of the covid. Nineteen situation As an owner as somebody who is so passionate about the game. How frustrating is that for you. Well i mean. I i think i would. I would speak for every owner that you know And you know the reason why we get into this. 'cause we wanna go hopefully go to the big races on the big days and see or horses compete and so that's obviously disappointing And then you know when you think about like my favorite place in the world saratoga My favorite time at saratoga isn't during the races It's you know in the mornings and you know again. Get the seahorses you know brees or dallas or whatever it is just to kind of be in that environment You know i. Would you know every owner. That's that's really what we're looking for And unfortunately we can't have that but We are lucky in the sense. That one of the few sports that that that's actually competing And so at least we have. You know it's like i got excited about waking up this morning and that i could watch the belmont like i'm not leaving my house. That's for sure. Yeah yeah. I said that earlier that you know we're very fortunate. We have the count our blessings as an industry that for many tracks. We've been able to keep this ball rolling through the pandemic were many other. Sports have had to shut down entirely. And i think that's it if you said we're gonna run the belmont stakes in june seven or eight weeks ago. People would have looked at you like you're crazy but here we are nine elmont steaks and several graded stakes races. Yeah it's it's a little odd Somebody asked me somebody Friend of mine. Who doesn't really know anything about racing. they asked if this was going to always be the order of the ship crown and i and i thought well i don't get to make those decisions but i'm gonna guess no. This is hundreds of years a tradition. That's been sort of you know turned on its head. Yeah and you know. Bobby you're a new yorker. You have been you know right there in in new york where all of this has taken place. It was the epicenter of the pandemic and hit very very hard and and now to to be able to get back to some sense of normalcy just a little bit with running these races of belmont park and having a belmont stakes day. Just talk about what that means to the state to the community and to yourself personally well the belmont stakes is usually a big day for me Whether i had something running that day or not. And i usually have about thirty people come to my house for breakfast. because Well i just want them to eat well that day and i love ira. But sometimes the food doesn't really doesn't really you know make it So basically what happens. Is i have a tradition where i cook. I cook like a brunch. That starts at nine o'clock in the morning. It's usually about thirty people that come over there. All dressed up in their in their In their belmont. Wear so to speak and We eat we candy cap. We watch the you know we watch the morning You know whatever's on tv in terms of horseracing that morning and then We we put everybody in cars. Nobody's allowed to drive. We go to the track. Who are a lot of wine and champagne all day long and we drink and then afterwards we go to. A steakhouse called wolfgang's in new york city And we have like a table of thirty right down the middle of the restaurant and because we're so starving by the end of the day And we eat this big steak dinner. It's very new york Experience and a lot of the people. Like i mean the people that come. Every year i try to include you know like a dozen a dozen people who've never been to a horse race before which you would think it'd be hard to do but unfortunately it's not and i want them to experience. You know the things that we understand as great race days I want them. They had those experiences so that they become fans of the sport in any way shape or form. They could. just be a spectator. They can decide. They wanna start. betting on. horses doesn't matter. It's like i always feel like it's my job as they try to be as much of an ambassador to the sport as i can't be because it's given me and my so many great moments And i want people to experience that. Where did the love of horse racing begin for. Bobby flay does it begin. Yeah we're how did you get hooked on the sport. Where did that happen This is a story that you've heard many times for many people took me to saratoga and i was like fifteen and that was it. I think i've been to saratoga every year since i was fifteen years old. Which is a long time ago now. Forty years ago I i may have missed. Maybe three meets but other than that. It's it's it's on my calendar period. my my. My office knows that like when saratoga happens especially during sales week like that's off. It's off the grid. Did your grandfather owned horses. Or was he a horse player. No he's a horse. He was a total voice player. You know everybody at the race track. You know this is. When horse racing was sport you know in new york and you know tons and tons of people would go every day like on a wednesday and my grandfather was a light love to love to gamble on horses and you know we. I really make this joke that His name was willie flay and we made this joke that like. He would step outside of his house and like look for one single cloud and if he saw a cloudy. It's like it's not a beach day. We gotta go to the races. 'cause he just loved it so much all kinds of characters the track then and it was just a really interesting time. When i started going steve coffin. I think was apprentice and winning every race. And you know he was a teenager so as a young the young person watching somebody you know. Basically a couple of years older than they like. Have all the success. Like i bet on every steve causing horse that was that was sort of how i got started. All right. let me ask this question. Then considering this is belmont stakes day a favourite belmont memory or too when you think about the belmont stakes. What are some of the things that come to mind. Well i i had a piece of creator In in two thousand and sixteen. Which was you know. It was surreal because Like i don't even like to talk about it. Because i don't. I don't feel like. I deserve to say that i won. The belmont stakes. But that's basically what happened Creator owned by winstar So the wednesday before before the race so like literally five four or five days out. I bought a piece of the. I've bought a piece of creator. The people went there. Were nice enough to let me buy into him and and then like all of a sudden saturday. And we're we're we have a run in the belmont stakes. And then he wins and like i. I didn't even have a chance to absorb the fact that i actually owned a piece of And then he won the race and then it was like one of the belmont stakes. I mean to be like i know like partnerships really big now. And you know you. You'll see you know like justified. Like four hundred. You know owners you know that sort of that sort of the trend these days like any good horse all of a sudden you know ten different people buy into the worst. It's really not what. I love to do I you know. I i like to. I like to kind of keep it keep my partnerships nice and small and and i asked the elliott walden every chance i could buy the creator was it was basically honestly it was it was it was just basically a big bet. I mean that's really what it was and He had won the arkansas derby. And then got really. We had a really bad trip in the kentucky. Derby and i think he ran like thirteen or fifteen or something so he was kind of out of everybody's You know or if everybody's page. But i knew that he had a lot of talent and Because by tap it and on and on and on so you know when he won by a nose first of all like best ride ever seen in a big race by iraqis. I mean literally one by an inch and and if you watch the race really carefully you see him. Saving grounded every in every single possible Moment to to get up if he does if he misses it by into anywhere else he means. Just just the taxpayer. But anyway it was just one of those moments. Where like all of a sudden you staying in the winner's circle with the belmont stakes trophy. The native new yorker. Like i mean what else. What other race do you want to win. Other than that. Maybe the travers. But i mean it's the belmont so and what remember what a moment it was great and my daughter was there and she cried and that's good. That's yeah that's what this is all about. And and bobby flay you are what this sport is all about your phenomenal ambassador and i love to spend even more time with you up the road and and here's some more stories and and talk about some of the love of the game that you possess but i'm coming up on the final commercial break in the program at listened really appreciate the visit here this morning. Enjoy the belmont. Sorry you can't prepare that wonderful breakfast. You prepare for everybody. But we'll we'll get back to that at some point all right man. Thanks so much for having me and good luck today. One of the greatest. Bobby flay thanks to him for that. Visit back on june twentieth. I'll be back to wrap it up right after this on the forum. On the horse racing radio network your home for racing's biggest events stretch with sponge or not dot com drifting leave book schiffer on the inside the second beaumont beaches up into third spun. Eight t's spun to run back by the lakes. 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Equine Forum - January 2nd 2021

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Equine Forum - January 2nd 2021

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse racing radio network. Half alita thanked the sex tape. Bom one derby gumede the final furlong now at the sixteenth bowl. Gumming john velazquez rolling on home to win the breeders cup. Filly and bear sprints all gonna mean welcome to the equine forum dixon outside these to the derby interest. Believe their own footage. Here's whitmore striding forward for the lead pinned a final among pumped up breeders cup sprint. What a day in the career of this seven year old whip four a-rod ortiz. Junior pep won the breeders cup sprint. Now here's anthony stabile good morning and happy new year. Hr nation welcome to the equine forum. Here on the horse racing radio network the big a anthony stabile filling in for the vacationing baron of the backstretch mike panel as we kick off twenty twenty one with the show that launched the network equine form here on h. r. r. n. Hope everybody got their new year off on the right foot at plenty of racing action from across the country yesterday. Alway from academic to the great race play santa. Anita plenty of good action. We saw the first points race of the year as far as the road to the kentucky. Derby is concerned yesterday. Here at acworth with jerome capo. Cain very impressive front running effort and eighty four beyer speed figure and when the calendar turns now that we don't have plenty of re two year old racing right. Bobby newman on race. Day actually pointed out or was the weekend stakes preview. I don't remember this is a little bit of a blur between the holidays. And everything going on There've already been there. Were sixteen points races across the world. Four the one hundred forty seven kentucky derby which is just around. It's amazing you know getting through twenty twenty where just four months from the kentucky derby this year and there's already been sixteen races in twenty twenty four. This year's derby gain had the jerome yesterday here in new york today. Life is good is he. The next bob baffert horse of a lifetime. We'll find out. I guess in park today. In that sham some war kentucky derby points on the line he'll stretch out to turns for the first time and i feel like once the new year comes the attention turns to the kentucky derby which is you know obviously one of the great things about the sport how we love our kentucky derby and attention almost immediately the the christmas christmas tree still up. And there's plenty of derby talked to go around and we'll have a lot of derby talk on the show today. The return of calling all three year olds speaking about newman. We'll hear from bobbi later on the program that the forces presented by smith reform We're going to have A guy who's been a bit of a mentor to me especially in my younger days steve haskins. I mean you think three year olds in the kentucky derby trail. I think a lot of people Who love our sport. Think of steve. Haskins steve will talk to us. We had a couple of calls this week on the net dot com serving the kentucky. Derby as you would expect but more specifically how some of us at the rows of course host that show with me how we go about looking for our derby horse if you will ask. I figured who better to ask. Steve asking who's been covering the derby for the better part of four decades If not more. So we'll talk to steve about that later on the show but i think it's funny. How as soon as the calendar turns we turn to We look down. The trail had now louisville for the kentucky. Derby and i think this year more so than ever after an unusual season last year with the derby back in its first saddening. They spot will be a very special kentucky derby this year and looking forward to getting on the trail or the on the trail here in new york continuing on the trail over the next four months. We have a fun. Show you today billy badge. The executive director of south florida racing operations for the strike group is going to join us. we'll hear from my friend nausea thompson. Who was recently appointed. The executive director of the new york thoroughbred breeders and. He is a board member of new york racing association. Now be good to talk to nausea. Remember nauseous i days at nyra now nauseous over with the new york thoroughbred breeders and on the board of new york racing association Recently retired racetrack announcer. Keith jones from parks keith. Call the races pox thirty three years. You know. i was thinking about this the other day after tom. Durkin marshall cassidy and probably bullet. Bob meyer from yonkers keith. Jones is probably the guy. I've heard the call the most races in my life and i think a lot of us can say that you know i'm forty three years older than a lotta guys and gals in that age bracket keith jones was up. Stay down with. John curran from delaware recently retired and now kief They've rodman the last three musketeers down in the mid atlantic. Dave calls it amazing race. David does a great job. So we'll talk to keith about his fantastic career. We told you about steve. Mike woman from santa anita friend of the program will definitely We'll talk to him about the three year olds and leads to our first poll question of the year sent out a tweet. This warning reminding people that she was minutes. Knock up on me be Filling in for the baroness morning. Steve was nice enough to gain low. Steve dudin off member of the. He's on the nhc tour each and every year. We have We've been making annual wager. We should spend it last year because of the postponement of the kentucky derby. I'm sure we'll visit soon on the call in show But the the standard that is. Will bob baffert win the kentucky. Derby that is stephen. I made the bat. I cashed in two thousand nineteen. Amanda rosa was able to piggyback onto a beautiful meal at steve piccolo. Boost la out here in westbury on long island during belmont stakes week. And i'm sure steve will call in this week or the following week. We'll make the same wager. I present that question to you. Hr nation four months away from the kentucky derby. I didn't feel right giving you the official canton. The baron has to do that when he comes back next week. That's that's his gig. We'll bob baffert win kentucky derby one forty seven hit us up at twitter at hr an answer. The poll question will bob baffert win this year's kentucky derby now it's four months away but we'll start out with the With the steve. Do north big annual wager and Again hit us up at hr and on twitter to answer. The question will read some responses later on in the program. All right set for busy busy morning here on the equine form when we come back billy bad friends and billy badge at the executive director of south florida operations for the group kicks off twenty twenty one on the equine form on. Hr airdrie stud. Cairo prince the leaving third crop sire by number of stakes winners stakes horses graded stakes winners and graded stakes horses. He's also a top five general sire by the number of two year old winter so far in twenty twenty and his current crop of yearlings his first conceived at a twenty five thousand dollars stud fee yearlings from cairo. Prince's fourth prop sold for up to four hundred thousand dollars this year underlining. His incredible commercial appeal at fifteen thousand dollars stands and nurses for twenty twenty one cairo. Prince's extreme standing at airdrie stud thank about it. Hi this is joe. Nicholson during these difficult. Times tame nicholson insurance agency. Since best wishes to all for good health we can all look forward to better times ahead when this pandemic is behind us. But in the meantime we need to stay safe although the staff at nicholson insurance is working from home. Phone calls into the office or forwarded so that service remains intact. Customer service professionals. Continue to be ready willing and able to help you with your insurance need whether it'd be equine farm hall auto business or life. Several of nicholson insurance agencies. Companies are returning portions of auto premiums because of reduced travel during the isolation period. Which i think is the right thing to do. Please call eight five nine. Two two four seven zero eight zero nicholson insurance agency. Thank you for the national. Hp is continuously working to protect the health and welfare of horses by advocating finding research to help reduce equine injuries. Lobbying for a national testing lab to oversee and establish absolute uniform laboratory protocols advocating for every track to undergo an annual independent surfaces assessment passionately. Supporting off the track thoroughbred retirement facilities and adoption groups and so much more see additional. Hp initiatives at national hba dot com racing fans at santa anita park wishes. You and yours a happy healthy new year and although there is still no public admittance you can watch every santa anita race free of charge at santa anita dot com slash. Lied and you can watch and wager at. I bet that's i dot com slash. Bet this saturday. We'll start down the road to the kentucky. Derby as three year olds go of flat mile in the grade. Three sham stakes named for the winner of the nineteen seventy-three santa anita derby sham will provide the winner with ten kentucky derby qualifying points also on saturday older horses. Pogo a mile and one eighth on turf in the great to two hundred thousand dollars saint-gabriel. On sunday three year old fillies. We'll go seven furlongs in the great to santa ana stakes with first time over the weekend at twelve thirty tune in earliest track announcer framer ramadi and tom quigley handicap. All of the races beginning at eleven twenty. Am for additional information. Please visit santa. Anita dot com money. Frankel on i listen to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. California chrome not gaining. He's back and racing and v shot go splits horses for jose ortiz stretch. And it's the breeders cup it's arrogating front leading by three with an eighth of a mild ago. Showman goes is trying to get into second then neolithic back. Fourth is noble bird fuller by keen ice. But what a raise. What a sport horse game in the past he wanted by three and a half well competently handled shaman. Goes second neolithic third. Then keane ice wars story and noble bird in one forty seven three go from park racetrack announcer. pd l. on the call on the inaugural pegasus world cup invitational. It was all arrogate and hard to believe. But they don't wanna pegasus for the fifth time three weeks from today on january. Twenty third gulfstream. Welcome back to the forum here on the horse racing radio network. Nice enough to join us now. A man who was instrumental in getting that day and that place ready getting gulfstream park ready for its biggest day one of its biggest days of the year is the executive director of south florida operations. Wow that's a lot to say. T introduced billy badge billy. Welcome to bitcoin forum or you how are you doing great happy new year my man. How's everything going down there in hallandale. Beach considering colbert. We're doing really well. Actually she goes. We're doing great. It's you know it's the it's the pink elephant talk. We've talked about this a lot here on. Hr n You guys did an amazing job. Keep things going i. I wonder what would have happened. You know those handful of tracks in in march april even into may right before churchill open and we got back going here at belmont in june. You guys kept it going key track in the wintertime. I wonder what would have happened. If you had a shutdown. I wonder if the whole thing would have shut down You know a lot of people a lot of people feel like you guys and you know there are plenty of people point the right to you. they kept us than going. So we all appreciate it. Well we belinda. Stronach was actually very instrumental but the the politicians and city of holland dell and adventure. You know working with them. Diligently and showing them extreme protocols we had in place and You know realistically what would have happened if we had to close with putting virtually thousands people out of work thousand horses with really nowhere to go and try to keep the operation going so they worked with us You know at to try to. Just keep everything going. And then through that process we were talking to You know the people can talk to people in new york. You know what protocols may have put in place to try to get virtually tripe help everybody back up and running and and You know a big part of keeping the whole place up and going and we've been very lucky. I mean health departments in here two or three times a week checking on what would on the very happy. If even even today with the state of florida being pretty line open protocols in place so it worked out really well and you're leading You know the proverbial handful of people in every day. You're letting you're letting a handful of people in there everyday well we're kinda catering to the horsemen up to pay their bills on a much launches run so kinda got a few areas ultimately really keep the social social distancing For what what the politicians want and show them that would keep everybody separated and we have every. Everything's pretty shutdown inside mostly outside and you know everybody has to wear a pass. We have clinton extensions. Virtually all over the place on the property and And the casinos. Only open it at park capacity. So you know. We got everything under control and You know even even as far as like the jockeys set up extra areas for them to be Guys people that came from new york we have a one check from kentucky and another section and set up pre for different areas to keep everybody safe it healthy for people that haven't been to gulfstream park. Was you just mentioned the casino. People have met the gulfstream park and have been to other respects that for seniors and again. I use ecuador because every day There there couldn't be more of a divide Physically you have to leave the building. Akron walk outside to get into the casino. If you haven't been to gulfstream. I've been to plenty of these places. I can't imagine any place where everything's more integrated you have to. You have the casino which is basically a cactus attached to the racetrack. You have all the shopping. So i have to think that gives you guys even a little bit more villages tickle nightmare in the fact that you've been able to keep the ball rolling makes that much more remarkable right. Well it's been interesting that everybody's been on the same page and You know you lead by example. We walk around. She's mask on. Put it on and the people that come here been really really good. Everybody wears with masks and It was ready whereas the mask and does the right. And they kinda unless you. You have a spouse or brother or cousin and everybody really pretty much separates themselves each other and I think people sitting in the boxer and put the on exception. He drinking show Everybody's playing their part which is really important and it really helps kind of keeping talking to billy badger from gulfstream park All right let's attention to the racing reaching been really good down there so far Of course claiming crown day always always a fun day now Really the third. You guys call him. Premium racing dates. You got the five three year old stakes today I'm very proud of the fact that i didn't call them two year old stakes a five three year old stakes today and and then three weeks from today Pegasus v. could you v pegasus already. It's amazing absolutely amazing. When we talked about the i was like well. Things get started right. The breeders cup got started so you think they get started somewhere so that was a tremendous start five years ago and to keep it going and an even during these these times have it. You know still able to could be a big part of it you know. We have tremendous Participation guys in california. Every everybody's looking forward to the racing looks like we'll have fulfilled in both races and even a couple of horses on the age which we have that pass so it should be a really fun was a fun car today to you know i think a lot of people when they talk about that championship meet we start to see when it kicks off late. November early december. You start to see some some late bloom in two year olds namely from the todd pletcher. Mon- we've talked about how he has that second wave and that second wave was almost purposely prepared for this championship meet This days have kind of come together over the past few years we have those five three year old stakes races Of to kick start the rest of the program. Because for all of these divisions the sprinters deter forces and then of course the mutual macho man lee gin to the holy bowl in the fountain of youth and of course The highlight of the of the meat is that florida derby every year This day really sets the tone as we talk about the top of the show right. We turn the calendar. Everybody starts thinking kentucky derby while this day really sets the tone down in south florida not only for the horses with darby aspirations but for all of your old absolutely. It's a big day like like you said later. Perfect point of being first snapping stone for you know down the road the holy bowl youth of course florida derby so this is start separating the men from the boys and then you know the other big part of how the industry trending too is You know as a canadian question so We're very happy to see the amount of participation with got but All the horse been having to take off lanes. That's pretty much the way the game is going right now. And you know congress stepping in ready to change all the rules and regulations that you'll be changing business future. Yeah it's it's amazing how the game has evolved. You and i go back about thirty something years at this point And of course before you went to the management side of the game you cop trainer. You know the most one of the more accomplished guys here in new york. Could you imagine being a trainer. As i've been forget about the kovac as everything else is evolving and now you know obviously you work hand in hand with the trainers the lace. Ah what's that relationship like. Was there any kind of big backlash from the lasix and the stakes in the two zero and the and the two year olds now three. Was there any kind of big backlash from from the from the training corps. Well yeah there's always backlash but you know in this business. Trainers horsing general. People people do not like change. They liked to get their their element and keep things status quo as much in the cost of the cancel. Yeah whatever there's change is always. There's always some kind of kicked back but they've been really when we first started this in in april With the two year olds got a little know. Because everybody's so you try to explain to the listening and the game's changed. We're going to have to get on board and not gonna get boards black. It's not gonna work out for you so We we virtually rian over two thousand two year olds without lays lend and while and so the participation was there and like i said before i was so happy to see the guys you know the two year old turn three and run them into snakes and not the as excel You know it's just going to be a part of the game in the future as well. You saw California yesterday all the racers with no lasix. Eytan it's gonna be it's gonna be a game changer for sure. Yeah i agree i agree. It's kinda. It's kinda something i never thought. I never thought we would see it. I remember in of course you are you here Yeah i remember the early nineties with no lakes new york and then finally ninety five. And i think the breeders cup was the big reason the lasix even came in ninety five because i think they would have had a lot of forces stay home Had they been the lakes park in nineteen ninety-five for that rediscovering october but Yeah it's it's. It's an absolute positive game changer. You guys are selling tickets for the packages And it kinda looks like things after the holidays. Hopefully i think we're all hopeful that stop pointing the right direction and we get the start opening back up not only as an industry but as a country Do you guys haven't reopening plan beyond the pegasus. Not right now. No it looks like we're gonna it'll be limited to around twenty five hundred people on today and then we're just gonna play by ear as far as numbers go in florida. Kinda hoping after After new year's the an and hopefully with this vaccine seen kind of kicking in that That thing settled down along chillers really bad day today Scenario for how. We're gonna plan things out for down the road so You know you watch california. You watch a york thanksgiving shut down and florida's a complete opposite florida's wide open Numbers are up there. They're high you know until we really got to keep an eye on that and you gotta look out for the safety at work. You're more importantly and then you know watching out for the people that are coming because then what happens is you got. You know. We have thought calls for jockeys funded tech assists. They have to take the test three days before they come They have to get to florida. Take a test when they get here at five days later. Take another test So you know we have strict strict protocols you're gonna have a holders finding something new york tested so we get a little worried about that part of it so kind of keeping a close eye on everything we have it set up with a twenty five hundred people that we can really knowing this song to this new thing where we can put people. Nobody could be close to one of other. We have all screens. Up of the tellers. Waiters and everything like that so We're gonna keep the very close eye on it after pegasus. See where we're at with the membership. What's going on in Of course you know january twentieth the president if she's going to change you really don't know what biden is gonna do. A lot of uncertainty is one thing is for sure racing will continue gulfstream park. You guys have done an amazing job. Getting through of the most unusual year Continued success into the new year. Before i let you go has been a louis delvecchio signing here. It's a very important question. If you know you know louis. Delvecchio is now at gulfstream bogged. Billy thanks for some time this morning. All the best in the new year anytime. Thanks buddy all right. Billy billy badge. It's executive director south florida operations for the strike group. I enough to give us some time this morning. And of course. Billy like all of our guests We'll get some power from embrace threes dot com and breaks your passion over. It embraced the race dot com. Of course billy trained one of the greatest phillies. I've ever seen gopher won an absolute legend in her time speaking legends. it's time now for the lexus. Legends of the turf brought to you by the lexus store of lexington. It wasn't planned that way but it turned out to be a promoter's dream. The event was the trenton handicap at garden state in new jersey. November of one thousand nine hundred fifty seven the question before the race might well have been who will wear the crown after all. The miss america contest was held in the same state and in this race. Three outstanding colts in america at the time roundtable bold ruler and gallo man or ready rents through the call to post for the own quarter test. Two of the horses were locked in the struggle for not only the two year old crown but horse of the year as well roundtable and gallant man. That third member of that troika. Although very good considered a tag along was bold ruler the cast of characters for the drama about to unfold beers. Closer verbal scrutiny. Roundtable was a small very powerful center. Prince cool out of knight's daughter by sir. Cosmo he'd done everything asked of him and more and against all comers. Those would speed those distance durability and those that were older he'd want to lebanon role on any kind of racing surface. All over the country he was slashing speedster especially middle distances. He said a track record of one. Fifty eight and three in the monitor. Quarter hollywood gold cup and was the only three year old ever. Who wouldn't he'd equaled the track record. Hawthorne for the same distance in a winning that gold cup and set a new market qinglin for one and one eighth miles owned by travis kerr trained by willie molter. The only chink in his armor was not a particular for an off track and attracted garden. State on this day was rated as good gallon. Mellon man was a small study son of majoli out of majda by mahmoud. Obviously english inbreeding quite formidable at that very versatile superb stamina acknowledges the best in the east it equal tropical six along record with a blistering one online to smash the american one and one half mile record at belmont and the nine long track market. Belmont as well he won the jockey. Club gold cup of two miles to heartbreaker in the derby through a writer error. That was the infamous shoemaker misjudgment of the finish line and he had swapped wins with dedicated the nassau county and the woodward both of the latter or weight for age owned by ralph low trained by the highly capable johnny narrowed. The possible chink in his armor was also an apparent lesson zestful liking for an off track. Bold ruler was considered the uninvited guest as it were akin to sheridan whiteside and the most entertaining men who came to dinner a will roll quite remarkably. Well played by monty woolley by the way. Bold ruler was the sometimes erratic son of nasr rula out of disco by discovery. He had proven he could carry a lot of weight. Having done so wanting to bahamas. Flamingo wood memorial a race. In which by the way he defeated gallon men in track record time the preakness the jerome the bus. Bergen the queen's county. He appeared to have lost his edge to the summer encountering difficulty going over mylan an eighth very speedy out of the gate. Indeed he was owned by. Mrs henry carnegie phipps in trained by the legendary sunny jim. Persimmons possible flaw. He had not done well at all. Previous attempts at ten furlongs and had been demolished by gallant. Mana twelve alongs bold ruler in this race as expectedly broke very quickly with hedayati are in the saddle and went on out to set the early fractions. Roundtable swerved and broken tangle gallant man away in good order into the clubhouse turn bold ruler open to three and a half point lead but that too had been expected with roundtable. Second three links in front of gallant man. Bowl ruler cut the first stop and forty-seven and run running freely and pulling off an open. Five length league at the far turn bowl had not let up one single bit. Andy had an eight length lead. The various dr. Carol now began to look back for the expected. Challenges gallon man made a bit of a run around the turn to come abreast. A round table those to match strides while slowly closing in on bowl rulership roundtable was the first to give up the chase but gallant man close to within two links to bold ruler. But they were midstretch by that time in. Our carol still had some horse left hand road. Bull ruler to the weirdo with two length with it had been bold ruler's day not the way. The experts figured it but races often turn out that way for example the nineteen thirty travers when the question had been gallon. Fox are which one which one or gallon fox. Well it turned out to be neither. 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You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. Welcome back the equine forum on the big. A anthony used to be filling in for the baron of the backstretch. Mike penna vacationing mike. And he'll be back next week with the second edition of the program for twenty twenty one. All right it's been It's been a fun year. It was a fun year. We kick off a new year here on h. r. n. With the new year we liked who try to bring some new stuff a new thing so it's time now for a brand new weekly segment on the forum and it's brought to you by our friends at first back and now today's i bet i bet comes from race. Four at tampa bay downs set to go off at one. Forty two eastern time today and it's the number five one pablo who's five to one on the morning line. He's the i bet. Because he has a thirty one percent. I bet win projection reach eleven points higher than the next closest one contender top rankin twelve of i bet leading factors for this race. His trainer. 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A great job started at nyra A little less than a decade ago and worked his way through the ranks. I guess the best thing that you could say about nausea was is. You can't find any way to say a bad word about him. And that's a rarity in this world Nausea is always the Knives was like the greeter now. If there was there was something that needed to be done. If there was something needed to be smooth over. I guess it makes sense that he wound up in. Hr over it at night but nausea always did a great job at at swimming's over in doing his job and just get along with everybody and i think he's gonna he is going to be a great great asset to the new york. Liberty us for those of you don't know He's following jefferson izzo as the executive director over at the nypd over. You're never be breeders. There's also just named to the board here at the new york racing association and Yeah he just does a great job he's going to do a phenomenal job in his In his new role as we effort efforting right. That's not even really a word. I don't think We to use it around here so Efforting to get knowledge on the air And looking forward to seeing what he did you know jefferson izzo predecessor. Did in a major an amazing job and i. I don't think anybody thinks she's gonna do anything. Less than a spectacular job. Nausea thompson joins us now. The executive director of the new york thoroughbred breeders not board member as well congratulations. Welcome to the forum. Thank you anthony. Good morning to you. Happy to be on board and join you here this morning on. hr yes. Let's let's talk about let's talk about. Don't think a lot of people have seen first of all. There's nobody better dressed the nausea. Nobody dresses better than nauseous. So you've seen four million pictures of nausea. But i don't know if everybody knows the full. How'd you get involved in racing talk about start at naira. Sure you know Got into the game as much. Any medical took me to the races. Ot number of turpin field club at on senator presiding every weekend. We'd go to. The park and looker moved to florida on my family. When i was a teenager i spent my days. I called her golf's pretty under get back into the industry so always pursued a pass to get back in and follow college. Working in marketing. Probably joined julia looking ahead. Recruited aaron she was able to get in the door and ever since then just working by way meet individuals such as top and they get to end today. Yeah and then during during covid connor switch positions you. You left us in the press office. headed down to hr. And then i guess this opportunity presented itself wants Jeff cannizzo took the position at nine. Yeah that's right. You know with everything. They have to deal with on every industry including horse racing and opportunities joy. Hr naira to help shape company. And we're not really twenty four at the time and was so we're really doing some to work and continue to do good work in. Hr bring the right people on board to steal the company forward but as you mentioned the opportunity with echinacea so leaving it open then. He's joining iran. A senior director of governor fears role. So that intrigued me and peaked my interest to get that for every everyday racing being able to get on the breeding side supporting breeders in the new york by dr graham and i was thinking pulling up the board of directors. Gave me this opportunity to join them. You are as people a people person. As i've ever met and i like to think i'm a pretty outgoing guy i you are. You're all over. The place can't find anybody to say a bad word about you. Accept any serving Just kidding and the dodging india. Very good friends now. Anything's world of knowledge. Is we all do I can't think of a person better for a role and maybe even more importantly all role better for a person. Then this position for you. I really appreciate that. didn't go. it's early always about building expanding relationships and we're about an is and we had in your first stellion owners breeders and the project. is that recent new york every day. and you're cold. The year is laughter. Banking jolly care to promote the to have. I'm here to make sure that we this year by year. And let's talk about that so we got a few things going on right. Now there's a new york There's an nypd stallion season auction. Going on right now It's actually gone from january twelfth to the fourteenth. You wanna talk about that turn annually in. Td return to raise money through this action which individuals at star dot com can bid on. Stallions offered some of those opera. This year excuse me include cross traffic really chance for breeders to get a chance and get a sees the name while also benefiting dan white tb january twelfth to january fourteenth. That stark wine dot com. And we have a membership drive as well From january through april correct. Yes you know. We're a membership driven organization and members annually. Pay their dues which we use as being the voice of the thoroughbred industry in new york to support our lobbyists in albany as you know. It's a very crucial time with the pandemic with everything going on in the state and potential budget cuts that breeders end. Your industry does have a voice at albany so we use our membership fees which can find out the benefits of becoming a member including receiving our new york breeder monthly magazine. The new york stallion register at our website. Nypd breeder is dot org. I have my hard copy of the register in my hand right now is looking through before we went on the air this morning One leave and i will do in the mic. Check the in the back of the in the back of the actual hard copy. There's a farm directory and obviously farm directory includes racing stables and stuff like a hundred and forty registered here. That's that's pretty. That's a pretty remarkable number. Yeah yeah you know. The new york program breeding very robust growing year by year we contribute as industry nineteen thousand jobs over three billion in economic impact so to the new york economy. We do have a voice in new york racing is here to see and surest you know championed by you and others in the better who are putting their money every day you wanna see the awards and the breed of near program and you get to see die sources such as the recently retired. Tis the law the track. And there's a there's a there are a couple of of new stallions that are gonna stand in new york The they're standing for the first time in the new york times. I'll look for a couple of former chad. brown runners. Fog of war was a huge fan of an honest mischief. We get a little judd mont Get a little judd blood on the empire state now this of course of course A son of honest lady So he should be. I took a horse like him in a son of into mischief. Now here in the empire state i. I'm looking forward to seeing the impact. He has In a few years when babies at the grand gasoline you know year-by-year style owners breeders and farmers. They're just making the deal Last year we saw what lau band-aid and the new york bred stallion program. it's just continued to flourish. With as you mentioned baga war coming in the only son of or front to standing outside of kentucky new york so it's gonna be you know a great couple years ahead. We're we're going to see new york bradshaw as like i said the people person the cova. I'm sure that this did not do well for it. Didn't it did not sit well with guys like you and i As far as our personalities go as far as this goes Does does it make things a little more difficult having to do more of the work on the phone maybe using skype and zoom As opposed to just doing because we're just quite frankly not do it as much stuff in person as we used to right now. As i mentioned earlier you know one of the big you know dealings of having to have this job is having the interpersonal relationships and you know i want to go out and make the farm tours. Invite people out to the races. That's how we get people involved to this sport into our game bringing friends of friends to the track and who become owners later potentially become breeders. That's how it all start. Then we've had the transition as you mentioned the zoom and doing other things where we can't be face to face in person. We're still trying to get the word out there. What nyerere is done with the television shows and bar casting the coverage of races. That's still able to make an impact and getting the word on how well the new york mets program is overall. Well now the new york. Because over breeders made a fantastic Higher be sorry to see you go from From nyerere but i'm sure we'll see around plenty especially when the Some of these restrictions lifted. It was great seeing you the other day when they made the announcement and we wish you the best and will. We'll talk to you soon. Definitely thanks anthony. Thanks to you and all the hr and listeners just continue to support our program in our sport overall the bread program or stallion series. Great things happening here in the empire state. Is there tomorrow. We got the lava dodd for the state bred. Filly shop star certainly on the rise and those ranks tax. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you to nausea thompson. New york executive director of the new york thurber. Breeders gonna do a great job as jefferson is did before him over the new york racing association in that executive role all right. We'll take a break when we come back. It is time for the industry star of the week presented by stewart mars. We have a special one for you. This week is the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. Your home for racing's big events i tony. Hey matthew there's a reason why tony. Steaks and seafood is my favorite restaurants. It's because i want to feel part of the family. Isn't that right tony. That's right there's a saying on the wall that i truly believe in. There's always room for one more at our table. We just wanted to be part of our family and believe me you will be. 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Hr n presented by twin-spired lean on serious nineteen xm to a one or stream. It live at horse racing. Radio dot net. Hi this is penelope miller. And you're listening to horse racing radio network you're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network well within striking range. They had the turn. Go up to engage the afrin sofia sophia with behind. So the big free right together with a quarterback figaro song birds had ride beginning to be written events and catherine sophia behind but song got off at aba champion picking big as hall song bird big into cried away arena second laboring back in just a back plan to grace and power as they come to the finished song. Bird a picture. Perfect keep gerald on the call of the twenty sixteen billion. It was all songbird. One of what he approximated seventy thousand race calls in his career. People join us at the top of the hour. Look back on a remarkable career mostly at parks down in bensalem pennsylvania. Welcome back to the form here on the horse racing radio network. We asked you earlier today. Talked about my friend. Steve dude off from the tour and how we make the annual. Will bob baffert win the kentucky. Derby this year i have course meant with a runner But a good job Rob burnell With the wiseguy answer of the year so far not unless he can run really fast plus. He looks a bit older than three. Yes rob fantastic work. I deserve that one Speaking of do steve off. He was the first one in i vote. He didn't tell you which way he voted. I can imagine which way he voted though. So thanks steve He just wanted to know was the first vote asked. Anderson weighed in with nope. Brad cox will with the central quality. And i would imagine that the central quality was. I shouldn't say is anymore. What life is good especially later on. We'll see how it runs in. The camp was the winter favourite. Coming into twenty coming into the day life is good brokers made. Life is good now. I would have to imagine his the winter favourite but we will We'll find out we've gotten hundred and two votes. So far fifty. Eight point eight percent say no forty one point two percent say. Excuse me yes had over to at hr and on twitter to vote in. Today's poll question of the day. We'll bob baffert or will bob baffert trained runner. Rob penau win the twenty twenty one kentucky derby alright Each and every week before the top of the hour we present our industry star of the week presented by stuart morris No guests that. I don't have a guest today because the star of the week is you. Hr nation or more specifically the fan We've talked ad nauseam at this point about the unusual year that was twenty twenty and wile horsemen and women racing executives trainers owners jockeys media while we were all asked to do things a bit differently. it's our job in a sense to do that. You guys are not beholden to anyone. You guys are not required to do things you did and what you did was you adapted like the rest of us did thanks to some additional programming. Some nationwide programming. I think everybody did a great job. naira and churchill partnering with fox. Tv g partnering with nbc sports. I think everybody did what they could to get. Our great sport in front of more is than it has been in many many years. But you guys who have been. Who were there with us. Each and every day who tune into serious to nineteen tax them to a one who stream it live at horse racing radio dot net who watch nbc sports who watch tv watch fox sports one and to who turned on. Msg you watch talking horses. Every day you watch franken and quickly. Franklin tom quickly at santa anita and joe and brandon and the whole crew at churchill downs. You guys who when you were told you couldn't go to the racetrack anymore. You kept betting and you kept watching and kept listening. We say it all the time. We couldn't do any of this without you we wouldn't have. Hr aren we wouldn't have horse races. We wouldn't have any of it if you guys worn out there watching listening and unfortunately most important most importantly benefit and the numbers. Don't lie you did it all in droves you allowed us here at hr n. To do some different things this year. One of the funniest things. I've ever got to do in my time here. At the horse racing radio network and in the game in all was the hr fantasy derby presented by claiborne farm. And if you have a chance go back and take a listen if you had listened to it already Something we're very proud of here. The horse racing radio now. We essentially brought you a derby on derby day. That you guys voted on you. Pick the winner of the. Hr fancied every so when we say your part of the team here when we call you hr nation. It's not an exaggeration. You helped us with the fancy derby. We have fifteen fourteen hours of programming every week. You're part of one of them. Each and every week on that version dot com paulin show so when we say. We can't do it without you at least a part of the week we literally cannot do it without you And the participation in the poll questions here every week. You guys all deserve it. So this week's industry star of the week presented by stewart morris. You the fan. Thank you for all you've done. Thank you for all you continue to do. And we look forward to keeping entertain here on. Hr and into twenty twenty one and beyond fun first half of the equine forum. Second-half kicks off with legendary racetrack announcer from parks keith jones but first station identification. We're back with our number two right after we pause ten seconds for station identification. This is the horse racing radio network from the rail to your radio. Fierce is the horse racing radio network and probable than global campaign tacitus tests the law behind ofek coup strides away and the keeneland sunset john velazquez authentic has won the long gene. Breeders cup classic. Gotta leave dr pumped had booked up on the outside. And the second pneumatic is served as york herald. Chance don't went up bell stanks. Welcome to the equine. For of hard nawa is running fast down the center of the course tarred not what past magical has caught channel maker tar. Nah moves on by tar. Nah and colin keen to win the long gene turf order about australia looking for a huge upset here order of australia. Gets that upset at seventy three zero one four pierre charlotte puto who's having white of readers cuff. Now here's anti steel our over two of the equine forum upon us. Welcome back thanks for joining me on the big anthony wheel filling in for the barron of the backstretch. Mike panic here on the show that launched the network the equine forum as we kick off twenty twenty one. When a fun saturday morning program. Still come in this hour number. Two steve passing and we'll talk about three year old calling all your old friends at the by spent reform our own. Bobby newman gives you his top. Three year olds with four months to go till kentucky derby one forty seven. Mike wellman will join us from the great race place. Talk about all the exciting things going on at santa anita first things first though earlier in twenty twenty one in the fall on twenty twenty in the fall of twenty twenty jon carin from delaware. Park announced his retirement as the track announcer for thirty. He was thirty seven years down at delaware park. Dave rodman's been there for three decades down in maryland and our next guest was the voice of parx racing for thirty three years early in december. He announced his retirement and the end of the year. And he's nice enough to give us some time this morning on the equine forum. Of course it is keith jones. How keith jones joins us this morning. Thanks for some time. Congratulations on a great career. Anthony thank you Appreciate you have me on and Thanks for the kind words. There was nothing better as a gambler. then hearing hello when you had the hello horse at forty two one People ask me plenty of times. What what was the hello and you know it went. It went in horse. Get a hello. And i let them know that there was a cutoff point. You had to be twenty two. Want her to get. Hello so that that's where That's that's what it was. You had to be twenty two water. Better didn't get a ho. that's fantastic. I did not know that there was a there was a border. But that's that's about right. If you find the twenty to one shot. i think he deserves some kind of recognition Thirty three years didn't feel like that when you when you wrap things up for last week i was about thirty four. Give me give me one more year. There was thirty four years and You know now. I don't think i can say it felt like that. I guess i enjoyed what i did so much. It it. it wasn't You know wasn't a grind or any of that kind of stuff. Even though i was at a circuit where we race pretty much all year round. I didn't have breaks in between me. that kind of thing i pretty much was Was added the whole time We did back off on the racing schedule later on in my career at the beginning. We're doing five and six day weeks but that didn't that didn't go all the way to the end But now it. It didn't I i can't say it felt like that at all. No i guess. That's you know what i was thinking. Back about the unite. When when we said since thursday you probably don't remember. This was unsure trap in two thousand times. My dad brought me up to the booth. it was either eighty nine ninety As a kid and my my dad always had horses of parks and gardens date in atlantic city in monmouth. You know so. I was a herash larry letterman all the time and tom and dave over at the meadowlands You know you were talking about the soundtrack. Ah after durkan and marshall cassidy probably your voice more than anybody else and i think a lot of east coast horse players and fans and horsemen and women could probably say the same thing i mean you were a continent like you said i think the thing about your career is you've seen the evolution of this game probably better than anyone from the five and six day week at a place where the purses and warren always the biggest but from that five and six day week through the casino money and the purchase exploding and the racing kind of you know talking about the brakes. Talk about that. How it started out. Just you know you work in literally every day because we all know there's no day off even if you have a day off it's not a day off to where it's gotten to now down there. Well you know it's interesting. You bring that up anthony because in in the course of Since i Announced my retirement. That i had some people send me some old memorabilia and a couple of those things were really old programs right right after i got started when it was back at philadelphia park in the late eighties. And you look at the program at. I'm sure you remember what those old programs look like those little little things that basically just had the jockey and the trainer and you know there was no. Pp's are there any of that other kind of stuff but the thing that really stood out to me was. Oh my gosh. Look at the purse money. They're running for next to nothing Compared to what we see today as you mentioned with the slot machine slot money gets kicked into our purse. Money in pennsylvania It's just been a huge boom to the The people that have had a chance to you know keep their stables here and run regularly In the state of pennsylvania. Of course we have the great Breeders bonus to for the pennsylvania. Brad specht When you look back at those those purses it was just astounding. How small were funny. New year's eve in eighty nine. My dad ran my favorite horse. He ever train the name. Pleased the pallet. I wanna say the pot was sixty six hundred and of course you supposed to send your twelve year old son to acqueduct on new year's day the put a pick six in for you My dad pick six year at aqueduct. In a paid sixteen thousand. I was twelve years old and i walked around with that ticket all day. And the only thing that couldn't get out of my head was i didn't know how pleased the palate a done i. Should i take it in my pocket for this guy for sixteen thousand right now and he drove two hours on new year's day to go run award for where the winner's share of the purse would have been less than like four thousand dollars and to get to where it is now. I think the last time. I looked seventy five hundred dollar now is to lifetime. Plumbers run for nineteen thousand dollars. Chess remarkable any. You you talk about the evolution of the game. We watched the way that the the horsemen. What is the word manipulate. But the way they strategize how they claim horses and how they run horses back and and and the way that they're able to make money And make good money By doing that in a very intelligent and smart way in the being in that booth for as long as you were. I don't i. You probably have the best perspective of any wanting to game because again it went from being. You know really. I mean as light purse money is you're going to get two. They're probably you probably have programs. They had a frenchaccent. You like you said where the full card is three races now in purse money maybe on some days like like castilian in pennsylvania day. I'm sure there are cards in there where there's one racist worth the entirety of a card from twenty eight thirty years ago. Now no question about it. Absolutely no question about it. It's it you now your the way you used to work perspective. I wanted to put a just a little bit of a different spin on that in terms of my perspective where my booth was. I was lucky. you know i've called it at different tracks Your mom if i did get a chance to call race up at belmont. When they had that free breeders cup they had something called by time for the british government. Five i was there at that. Yeah but it i had. I was lucky enough to have one of the best Situations for seeing the race. That that of any of the places i was at i was almost directly not quite but almost directly on the finish line. I know the booth at monmouth park. You're actually to the left. Is the finish line and and by a little bit so When when you're tried to call a tight finish at monmouth park it. It's very difficult because you have terrible angle For the finish line at belmont. I couldn't the first thing that happened was the it's so big. My fifty binoculars weren't strong. I had to borrow somebody else's binoculars to call my one race. And then i was astounded at how steep the horses were almost directly below me as they came down to the finish line. I found that to be that. A little bit You know very unusual. Feeling from what i was used to but i had a great perspective in terms of being able to call the races on a day to day basis at at parks. Yeah you got a great booth and you know of course the i would. I would imagine you get asked most about smarty jones and how things started for him You know with a with the local you mentioned guys and gals that had stayed the whole time. I mean john services as as much as much a part of philippe park in parks as as you are quite frankly But there were plenty of other good horses there. And we'll talk about smarting minute but plenty of other good horses that role through there even you know even at the beginning of your career. No question about it They're made it. They go back to back to smarter though Anthony the it was made to say when you look back at the videos of of the racist. Here's a horse that Ended up. I say he almost wanna triple crown almost. It's almost but I two race especially the first race. You look at the winter circle and there's almost nobody around know nobody around the outside of that circle Here's a horse that went onto to serious national prominence and the first race of his career and almost. Nobody's there to Winter circle degree of. They had no idea what what he was or who he was at that point. At what point did you kind of know that you know what maybe this pennsylvania nursery was was a sparkling performance. But you get to see him on almost a weekly bay when when you. When does you know like i. I might be calling a real a real resources here. A real contender. I i can point there. There were two things Anthony the the The nursery and i know you know as a as an answering exactly what. I'm talking about The way that a horse moves when he's running When you're looking at a really good horse you can tell. And he the way he He went down. The seven furlongs for us is a straight run to the far turn so of the first half mile was basically a straight run and he was just he was on the front end and he was just didn't even seem like he was exerting himself it was effortless for him and i look up at the telecom or anywh. He went forty four and one and i. I was just astounded. There was no way it seemed like he could possibly be going that fast and yet he hits it and forty four one and a two year old in the second race of his career okay. He's going he's going way too fast. He's been a backup into the field. And instead he just continued to widen. Draw way so that that that was number one. The second thing that i'll never forget is we were down in the winter circle Early in the morning for one of his workout session. And you're down the track. And i know you again. You know exactly what. I'm talking about the horses that'll come by. You can hear that. Boom as they're as they're going by will he ran by in his workout and it was almost like there was no sound he was it was as if he was just gliding over the track. And that again just astounded me. The found there was almost no sound. Yeah those are those are the great. They're not even good ones. Those that are great. Now you just kinda know you tell you why we had a nice little ship or come up and win the jerome yesterday. That that that capo cane. He ran really really well yesterday. Eighty four beyer speed figure. He He did everything on the front end he ran. He ran really really well. I'm not saying smarty jones but he ran really well. Yes they were talking with Track announcer keith. Jones spent thirty four years now at park. Was he your favorite horse to call smarter fanfare. I i mean. I'm sure there are horses there. I'm sure there are horses. You call fifty or sixty times in your career spread. That's another thing that's funny that you ask me that because as as the last couple of days where we're counting down Anthony i wondered to myself what horace of i announced more than any other horse in my career and really honestly have no idea But there's gotta be somebody who who i asked more than anybody You're talking about fine horses. I think more than anything The horses that come from off the pace and make those huge late runs the. It's just so dramatic. Says they run down everybody in the stretch and I remember one of my favorite late runners. That just had a just kind of a cool a funny name. His name was whistled a pennsylvania. Brad that Is owned by a friend of mine. You get horses. That have cool. Names like that and again give you that exciting run back and that kind of stuff a lot of fun but some of the how about some of the friends you've made Over the years some of the not just the obviously equine. And you know you're a racetrack guy. You're not just an out your restrict. Hear you're out in the morning telling stories about watching the workouts and stuff. Do you remember the first friend you made when you walk into parks thirty five years ago. Thirty four years ago The the first job i had was guard stayed in eighty five and the there was a this is kinda weird there was She became a clips award winning photographer. her name was kim pratt and she was sitting in the in the publicity office waiting for an interview and You know we met each other and later came to. She got a job the same day that idea we came to find out we share the same birthday and We basically spent the Her office upstairs. Where i am in parts is right next to mine. Just kind of amazing that the two of us Shared all of that stuff to ask course of the basically in the entirety of my career. That's fantastic those are those. Are the little tidbits. You only get here on the quiet room. That's fantastic great year things like that. What will you miss the most I think i'm going to ask the people more than anything again. You mentioned the friendships It's the relationships and the friendships. That i've had a chance to Garner overall the course at that time but looking forward to it. I mean where we're going. I'm sure i'm gonna make a lot of new friends and Do a lot of other kind of fun stuff but yeah. I'm i'm big with golf. I can't wait to get out to the golf course and start playing a little bit more golf than i have been able to over the past years but it's the people johnny that the The you know the the gray strack people are kind of a little breed into itself and And i've had a chance to work in and meet and be friends with a lot of really really nice people and they've been so good to me over the course of all time. I'm gonna miss them. I'm sure they're going to miss you too And i could speak for fellow horsemen and women. Racetrack announcers and more importantly guys are not be that net. Two dollars four dollars desperately waiting for the helo Personally thank you for letting me in their thirty years ago to watch a call one and we look forward to talking to you down the line. Never say never right. You said if some part time stuff comes open you certainly willing to To think about it absolutely. I don't want to Yeah i absolutely like to keep myself busy. Especially mentally like that. And i'll be able to get out and keep myself busy physically but i want to keep myself busy mel. Hbo all right well. Hopefully something comes along. If not hit him straight enjoy retirement my friend you deserve. I appreciate you having me on. It affects everything. Anthony all right. Thank you keith keith. Jones recently retired track announcer from parks. Again if you grew up in the east coast in the northeast part of the soundtrack of your racetrack. Life the one and only keith jones. I like all of our guests. 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Bay turned into the short stretch and hot rod charlie heaps moving up on the outside hot rod. Charlie boobs up to challenge jackie's voyeur. Has the field moves off the turn. Central qualities is still third. Can still moving at the leaders from the outside final furlong of the juvenile sensual quality. Coming forward for the lead late rod from million biden hot rod to the inside company and science has has won the tv g breeders cup juvenile. What minute forty. Two point zero nine seconds our own kurt becker. On the call of this past year's breeder's cup juvenile until quality stayed perfect and will likely be the champion two year old for twenty twenty when those clips awards get talented. Cat get tabulated couple of weeks. Welcome back one. Four here on h. r. n. l. about you but when you say three year olds and you say derby i think of our next guest store. Only steve haskins joins us. Now course the author of the derby dozen. For as long as i can remember steve happy new year. Welcome to the coin forum. Thank you anthony. Saint keo what's happening. How how are you doing. I'm doing well doing very well. Everything's going great other. You realize they're gonna love trivia question for you before we started. You realize that people know you was the big a okay but you realize that there have been other sports personalities that have the same kind of name. The big something. That's happened longtime ago really. Who's that bet. You can bet you can't name any of them. I don't think i know anyone that's where that started from. I know the big ragu from From happy days well the new york post. The honda originally called me the big a over at the new york post. That's where i kind of took it and ran with it way back in one thousand nine hundred nine it went. It was quiet for a while. Just because i was i was as i would like to say for about four or five years. I was a stay at home son. So it's a good name for just kiss to show you delete company in which you in which you reside there was a horse in nineteen sixty five named gross dark. Who's who is known as the big g so that that's that's one in horse racing. That's pretty good. People say that these the best source they've ever seen debate the big. Oh who was oscar robertson. Sure and in hockey we had the big m who is frank mahovlich. Toronto maple leafs so. That's the company that you're keeping right now with the big. Hey that's pretty good. That's pretty good What do we call you in this country. If you think kentucky derby is call me for dinner that's all nova King umberto yes. Oh well steve stricker booster Man So part of the reason i called yesterday to have you on the air thursday night. We had a couple of interesting calls on at dot com paul and show. You can listen to the rosen. I each and every thursday from six to seven. Pm eastern we take your calls Had a couple of callers talking derby of course. That's what we do right in this country. When we turn the calendar where on the derby trail we have the drone yesterday we got the sham today. And i haven't picked the derby winner in a very long time. You have and you know more about the derby than anyone. I know so. I will pose the question to you and i told i told these guys i would ask a better authority than myself and the rosa When you start to look and obviously we're four months out. I don't expect you to have a and maybe you do. I don't expect you to have a derby goes. What do you look for at this stage when these horses are still either maidens or taken the first steps onto the stakes trail. What do you look for In these three year olds at disappoint of their career. I have to be honest with you. I don't look for the same things now that i did in the past because the derby has completely changed. It's not that i was gonna. That was my next question. The the evolution if again. We just keep jones on not interrupt you. We just keep jones on from parks about how he saw the game. Change down there in front of his. Is this this kentucky derby evolved so maybe incorporate that into your answer Like you were going to do. That was my follow up question okay. Well in the past the first thing. I mean you always look pedigree. Okay you always look you say okay. Here's the voice who's by sprinter out of a dam by sprinter You know it's not gonna go a mile and a quarter. He's a speed horse. He needs to lead In the past speed horses did not win the derby. I mean once in a while you get to spend a buck who went out there and blew everybody away and you got to winning colors and all those horses at wonder derby opened up big length. Big link leads early Even like whoa emblem. He was out there by three lengths horses. They would just faster and they went out there. Winning colors just barely lasted. Spend a buck one off by himself. you just look at these horses and War emblem was completely ignored. Nobody thought he'd go a mile and a quarter on the lead. Okay so that's the way it was. Those were three examples of what not to look for. What you want to look for was a horse would pedigree. What's to come from anywhere from mid pack to the back of the pack and a horse that had a quick turn of foot. You wanted to see a horse that could really make a move because the derby is one but usually won by the quarter pole. You're not gonna find more in the past. You're not gonna find his. That are five six seven eight lengths off the pace of the quarter pole. Getting up to win the derby. It rarely really happened you. Could you voice that comes from eighteenth or nineteenth was like kenya narrow Lot of horses that come from back but they are there at the quarter pole gotta had that big burst onto turn you see him flying by horses. That was the derby up. Until i'm gonna say maybe seven eight six seven eight years ago or so. Now you take pedigree throw it out because in the past we wouldn't even look at it into mischief out of mr. Greeley mayor intimacy was totally unproven. He was a sprinter and he was siren courses that basically were sprinters and milers. Okay so dispel that last year. Obviously so forget about pedigree now because you start looking at these courses and it's not a question of a pedigree anymore because none of these courses have mount quarter pedigrees anymore very few of them do so it's just a question of which from carries his speed the farthest the stamina is is is gone horses coming from eleven twelve sixteen eighteenth. They get a second a lot but they don't win. You look at the several. You know less few derby winters. There were horses on the lead. You look at justify you look at always dreaming and every single year. You're looking horses. That are right up there on the lead and now only up here on the lead. But they're going in very fast fractions and you figure they're gonna come back and they don't you look authentic last year. You know another speed horse who had never proven he could win from off the pace ever and they let him go so. I'm totally throwing all that out now. Basically what you have to look for. Now if i'm looking for a derby horse right now i'm looking for any horse trained by bob baffert okay. I don't care if he's had one start. I don't get one six four along race. Listen at this time last year. Nobody heard justify he he had never run. Nobody heard of always dreaming nobody. Nobody ever heard of sources because in the past you had the so-called apollo curse what you had to run as a two year old. That's that's gone you have lightly racehorses now again i'm going to go back into passes an old fogy that i am and i'm going to go back and i'm gonna look at horses. That ran is three they ran. You know five six times as a three year old before they before they got to the derby and every single horse and you can go look this up. Every classic winner every derby winner every champion. Three year old in the sixties seventies and eighties started the year off in a sprint. Okay and john root always told me that also he said you want to sharpen a horse up and these are words that have been running in the campaign and the garden state in remington. put them in a sprint. Shopping them up trainers do not do anymore. Because of the point system churchill downs refuses to give any sprints points so trainers avoid them so now all these horses that have stamina horses that have that do have forced that. Wanna come from off the pace get running in the kentucky jockey club. They're running in the remnants of the modern as then they go in the holy bowling mile and sixteen anyways to turn to turn to turns to. They get to the derby and it because they've never had that shopping. But you look at every horse you wanna look at all the triple crown winners in the seventies. You wanna look at all the champions of the sixties all derby winners. They all had at seven for a long or six and a half for a long prep to start off the year. Okay so that's out of the question. So that's why one of the reasons why the speed horses are winning because the company hindmarsh are are adult by the time they get to the derby and they just don't have the speed to match with them. So i'm looking like bob baffert. The favorite in less future wager is of course that ran wants going. Six furlongs bob baffert. He's the favorite in derby. Already you know life is good. I'm talking about any iran outrageous third graph number. So he's the big. That's the that's the worst as we're looking at now so to answer your question. Which i don't know if i've done it or not. You have to look at at speed now. Wearing the past you looked at stamina and that's how much that's how much change. Yeah i listen and and getting to that. But that's That's okay listen. It's a long winded question. Because it's not an easy answer and i didn't really have a great answer from you. Wanna ask me about the belmont. Where i've had some success. The key belmont stakes is usually in the kentucky. Derby you watch the derby replay twenty times before i make a decision about the belmont and but i know the belmont. I'm not. I haven't been negligent every you not like the so part of the thing in this game is when you're not when you don't know don't try to fake that you do go to the experts. You're the expert. So i went to you and i don't disagree with you. I don't think it tells you about the belmont and a lot of people realize if you take all the triple crown winners. I think every single triple crown winner except to won the belmont wire-to-wire and i don't i don't care if they come from behind horses or not. Yup you look at rollaway. Who was a stone close. Who came from almost dead last win the derby. He he wanted to belmont virtue. Virtually wire and the last two are. The only two didn't have a race at belmont park. The other eleven all wanted belmont park before the kentucky derby action life. The derbyshire's changed everything. Life in horseracing has changed and a million ways and so his so has the derby. And so has the whole triple crown really. Yeah save money which has changed the entire world. Save the money. I don't think anything has been more affected by the change in the evolution of this game in the kentucky derby for all of those region just said you know it used to be. You'd look at the speed you'd pitch this. They were the first rollouts all right. Here's the speed. Forget about the speed. They're going go. They're going to set the pace and the clothes are gonna come running. The mid packhorses is gonna come run. That just doesn't really happen anymore. I got about a minute left in this segment. Do you have a derby horse right now. I i certainly don't to tell you the truth. The derby horses have not excited me so far. There was a that really impressed. Me and i'm going to look very closely and so what you wouldn't think source of course that one. The springboard mile remington park. Let's go you're boosts guitar. I remember when this war. I remember when the mayor was was with due to fall because they had a horse of several years ago in the at the same damn runway magic. And if you watch this this he's like an old fashioned derby horse to me. I mean he. He's legs he legs back and he just makes monstrous move onto turn. It did less came. He came from it. Came from fifteen links out of it. He wanted to that race by six. And a half lengths. He can blow away in the stretch and he's got the pedigree so just remember the name. Send you a boost it or when all the He's gonna probably end up he's going to go with fairgrounds now probably look for him and racial like the lecomte or something like that. But he's some i'm looking for. I'm i'm not thrill by central quality. Looks solid I'm not gonna go at any. The bob baffert horses. Only they still. They should show to me You know i still got a latch onto something from the past. But those are the horses Chat brown has reinvestment risk. We ran terribly in the breeders cup. But i think he's still a distant source and i'm still looking for him to To run a big race and we'll find out more today because like you know life is good runs today against a really nice horse named parnelli. John sheriff says and he could be a really nice source so we'll see how he does suit. Steve always love right now. Caddo river looks good. It's just wide so wide open right now. All right well as as we get closer to their everyone. Forty-seven can show your phone will ring for me Thanks as always. We'll talk to you soon. Take care anthony. Big right steve. The one and only steve haskins like all of our guests both keith. Jones and steve hoskins will receive power from embrace embrace. You're passionate over and embrace the race dot com. We'll take a break. We'll come back. We'll talk more three year old. In fact we calling all three presented by spendthrift. Bobby newman Has his spot. And then we'll talk for mike woman from the great race place. We'll talk about. Life is good with mike when we return. This is the forum on. Hr adena springs stallion. Muccio macho man tough sound durable a stakes winner at three four five and six who competed in all three triple crown races before turning three years old and capita stellar career with a determined victory in the breeders cup. Classic over champions will take charge and declaration of war. Bad data muccio macho man is produced to first crop grade. 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The team had asked for today to book your hair while there are still seasons available. This is chris landeros. You're listening the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network come charlotte and charlotte dan with a powerpoint. Move on the outside of nashville and he has run right by charlotte back and he turns it on with eight miles. Express train moved to nashville dropping out of collusion illusion. What a spectacular return for charlatan. Who will rob in the run. Happy malibu stakes by four and a half emphatically express train with sucking collusion illusion. Finished the running time one. Twenty one point five zero targets the voice of the great race. Play frank mira mati. I'm a call. The run happy malibu was all charlatan. Matchup with natural did not materialize charlatan rolled. And he's back. Maybe we see him in this world cup invitational in three weeks down at gulfstream park. We'll talk to mike woman from the race place just a few minutes. Welcome back to the equine forum on the big. A anthony stabile fill in for the vacationing mike pence. He'll be back next week. We just got done talking with one. Only steve haskins and now with the calendar. Turn to twenty twenty one. It's time for the return of a very popular segment from last year. We're calling all three year old. It's presented viessmann thrift farm. Here's bobby newman online. All spendthrift farm presents calling. All three year. Olds with bobby newman. Today is the first saturday of two thousand twenty one and our first of an eighteen. Th straight weeks taking a closer look at three year olds on the kentucky derby trail but the road to the roses doesn't start today there have already been sixteen racist with kentucky derby qualifying points in the offering starting with the great three iroquois stakes at churchill downs last september. The brad cox trainee essential quality. Is the division leader right now. He's undefeated in three lifetime starts including decisive winds in the great one breeders fraternity and great one breeders cup juvenile at keeneland last fall. He earned ten and twenty derby points respectively for those wins and his total of thirty puts him on top of division for. Now keep me in mind sit. Second with eighteen points followed closely by jackie's warrior and spielberg with twelve. A piece last year. The impressive into mischief colt came off a maiden win. At del mar to romp in the sham stakes at santa anita on his way to eventually winning the kentucky derby can history repeat itself. While it's too early to know but trainer bob baffert has another son of intimacy of named life is good. And he's very talented like authentic. Life is good was impressive in his maiden win at. Delmar should be heavily favored to remain unbeaten when he faces four other rivals in today's renewal of the grade three sham. His stablemate medina spirit is also coming off an impressive maiden win and may be the main threat to the favorite wasp. Berendt parnelli uncle boogie round out the field. And although they don't seem as flashy as the baffert trainees they all have previous route or stakes experience. I'll be back with this week's top five list right after this word from spendthrift malibu moon the sire of seventeen. Great one winners on dirt. Second in the world. only to tap it. Among active sires malibu moons progeny have won as many or more of america's most celebrated dirt races as any active sire especially for three year old colts including the kentucky derby florida derby santa anita derby and saw derby among others a living legend malibu moon. Ap best sire standing at spendthrift farm. This week's top five list of derby contenders looks like this number. One is essential quality. He's undefeated the breeders cup juvenile champion current points leader and wintering fairgrounds. No idea yet where he's going to make three year old debut number. Two life is good and impressive. Maiden winner at delmar in his lone star. He should be the heavy favorite. Today's rate three sham at santa anita number three. Send your boosts cadore undefeated in two starts coming off. An eye catching whispers. He may run in the lecompte. at fairgrounds. next on january sixteenth number four is manned lunar another one whose undefeated used to for to a son of into mischief and he's also pointing toward the lecomte. On january sixteenth number five jackie's warriors super impressive before disappointing in the breeders cup. Juvenile last cure possibly taking the oaklawn path will see if jackie's warrior really wants to go the mile and a quarter. That's you're calling all three year old segment presented by spendthrift the breeders. Far all right. Thanks to bobby newman for calling. All three or else was presented by spendthrift farm. Be curious to see how that evolves four weeks away for months away for weeks. Getting ahead of yourself. Piggyback four months away to kentucky derby one forty seven and they will run the sham today. First step in twenty twenty one on the road to the kentucky derby and louisville out in southern california the great race place and mike woman from santa anita joins us now. Good morning mike. Thanks for waking up super early on the equine forum. Pleasure to be here. It's not that early and happy new year to everybody. Yeah happy new year to you as well. You're a better man than me nine Six forty fives a little too It's time i woke up this morning. And i only do that for the equine forum or saratoga at this point i have my Priorities my priorities are in order Fantastic fantastic mike opening weekend. You guys gotta be thrilled out there at the great race place. Yeah we really are It's it's just been very very gratifying. Specimen you of everything has gone down the last couple of years We've had good field size. And whether people have really responded We've sent an all time opening day record for handle You know on friday with over twenty three million on eleven races and yesterday we handled eleven million on nine races. Which was i mean. Year to year we were just seven hundred thousand off one race a year ago so The weather's good Everything shut as you said. We've got We've got a derby. Prep here today. On january second the sham and You know it just looks like Baffert it's going to be extremely tough with with. Life is good. Who was so so impressive up. First time out but you know personalities interesting. John sheriff's he hasn't done anything wrong either. He's got benefit of Three consecutive miles under his belt and You know you just aired last time out so going to be interesting. I gotta believe life is good is the speed and you know this this guy baffert we know how incredibly tough years in in any situation you know i would imagine And you all do this namely yourself do an amazing job promoting the product at the great race place and now things are a little different without the fans But in an ordinary year. When you know the fans are out in about at santa anita having i mean having a cornerstone like like bob baffert bond there knowing you know. I mean. he's going to have a horse in every one of these preparations I don't want to say gotta make your job easier. But it's almost got to be a pleasure to know that you know the the name when it comes to trainers the name that's synonymous with the world's most famous race. You know what calls your backyard home. Well there's no question It's a big a big plus. I will say at times. It can be a bit of a double edged sword over the years We've seen baffert You know just shipping out of here left and right. And i've gotten tired of writing santa anita based this and anita bastogne so when they're winning at oaklawn park when they're winning At keeneland and so on but you know he's keeping his big gun separated in many cases and he's had a lot of luck as you know Going through that oakland program. They're on. The road is the first saturday in may and this year of course. It was the first saturday in september and another thing. A bit of a caveat was effort. is that It tends to His presence ten to kinda you know serve as a mitigating factor in terms of other people thinking about shipping out a witness Steve asmussen with nashville on opening day. In the malibu or was the talk of the racing world Set a track record in an ungraded steak. You know on breeders cup classic days or a keeneland came out. Here went favored and just got thrills. You know i mean charlatan Tracked him to the far turn. I'm off topic a little bit right now as far as i go. But the point is baffled is so strong that you know we. We'd like to see more outfit shipping in for we think are very very good opportunities. But i think some guys look at The baffert factor. And say you know. I think all fast. Yeah i mean you see that a lot. you know a different I think you see it with different trainers in different places you know. I think you hear it a lot with cat brown on the turf here in new york and a lot of guys. Don't like to win against todd. Pletcher at gulfstream in the winter. I think it's i think it's a bunch of hullabaloo. That's just me. I have you got your horseshoe run them and you guys have a great program out there With that said you know. He keeps them barracks unveiling these horses of a lifetime and they come around every two years. It seems like This horse you know. And i'm not one. I've gotten fat literally and figuratively oakland. Man steve do not bet not against baffling. Somebody's derby's of late This horse has just a little bit of a different look to him like a that maiden race. He looked like he could really be any kind. Life is good. I mean no doubt about it. Mike smith indicated as much after the race and The film doesn't lie. Anybody wants to look at it and november twenty two second race at del mar and i mean it was over real early. You know just marched and did it. It appeared to be well within himself so Yeah we'll We'll we'll wait and see but he's he's two to five on the morning line and i would say that's probably about right you know and Gonna be interesting to see. How parnelli fares I think he's a nice horse. And sheriff has got another one in there as well in spirit sounded a union rags who You know he's no slouch broke made in second time out then was well beaten here Going a mile and a sixteenth and a grade one american feral but Parnelli be shorter. Price Among those to self i anyway. There's not much else to say other than you know. Let's face it anthony it's. It's really not a good batting race. I mean you're going to single life is going to a lot of people are in in the tricks and but it's a race it I is compelling from a you. want to see it and you want to see what it means. In terms of moving down the road to to churchill For onto the roses. You might kinda guy. I've been through one of the time but so far you've been quite you've been upfront about not being a good betting race and then you call the gimmicks tricks love it. That's that's his old school. That's as old school as you. Get the san gabriel Came up a pretty good race right before the Right before the sham looking forward to that and you guys got a lot of good stuff going. I know you mentioned this when we started the interview after everything. That's gone on in the last two years provided all as well you guys gotta be really looking forward to trying to have a a quote unquote normal year out there and twenty twenty one. Wow on so many levels resounding. Yes that's right and another thing that that smile on his right. Now is the weatherman. I mean i'm looking at the extended forecast. We did have the prospect of some wetter late next week and now that appears to begun. I noticed they do. Have it up north Prospect of weather Things are seen to be aligned along with that. I mentioned north golden gate's misfortune. Right now is is working to our benefit although not as much as it was with los alameda And the dome or for me golden gates in a very awkward position they are On hold due to this situation there at the mercy of the berkeley department of public health and I have to be careful what i say but when you say berkeley anything you know what we're talking about and leave it at that. Some people call us the people's republic. So i went too far. But we're hoping that they can get back up because you've got horses in training and there's a condition book out but there's no dates. It's just day one day to day. Three everything is in limbo. You've got turf. Paradise opening up on monday over here in phoenix And and golden gate is th they. They've got to get an okay to get back running. We're seeing a lot of horses. Come down here. But the people can't come with them in other words you can't even send a groom with a horse. The horses come in and and they just go to a bar and they're they're handled by different people. That's tough stuff they ask. It's tough. They ask owners and trainers to to do that Mike thanks for Thanks for the time this morning Keep it going out there. Everything's been great so far in Look forward to talking to you down the road. Yeah i like by the way. I like count again with juan hernandez in the san gabriel. Big big scoop theories the two to one morning line favorite. He's one of four horses coming out of the great seabiscuit. He wanted from off the pace and juan hernandez serving notice that He he might be in the running for leading rider on it here. He's really really good just so you know before he has. The windows has got another four hundred pounds on his back. Because i like them to Happy new year. Good luck you to mike. Next time. mike woman from the great race place. We'll take one more break. We'll come back and wrap this first edition of twenty twenty one of the coin forum here on hr and gains stallion. Cara county is off to a strong. Start at stud. A leading sire amongst this crop by percentage of stakes boris's top runners by cara conti include graded stakes winners. Ken zai warrior but cancelled. Warrior is sticky is getting up. Kids warrior was horace zil solely volante on the outside. So tight runs by the neater. It's so about hunt in going away. Two year old stakes winner. Spanish love affair sixteenth. Spanish love affair almost tom. 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Equine Forum - December 19th 2020

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Equine Forum - December 19th 2020

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse. Racing radio network half thanked him. Don stake up. That's one by contacting gumede. The final furlong out the sixteenth bowl. Gumming john velazquez rolling on home to win the breeders cup. Filly and bear sprints all gonna mean welcome to the equine forum divert dixon outside the to the derby switched third thirty. Here's whitmore striding forward for the lead him. The final pumped up breeders sprints. What a day in the career abyss seven year old whip four a-rod ortiz. Junior pep won the breeders cup sprint. Now here's mike penna. Good morning once again. Everyone and welcome to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. This is the show that quite frankly started at all the show. That launched a network has to say mike baron on the backstretch with you for the next couple of hours right up until ten. Am eastern you of course are listening. Throughout north america on sirius. Xm to oh one on our affiliates in lexington louisville and across the country or digitally with our live streaming or podcasts of the show on our hr website horse racing radio dot net. Happy to have you along for the next couple of hours. One hundred thirty three days nine hours forty three minutes and wait for it. Five seconds until the run for the roses saturday i churchill downs in louisville kentucky. And did you know there have already been fourteen kentucky. Derby prep races run in twenty twenty fourteen. You might miss that eight in the united states six internationally. The most recent was yesterday afternoon in. You may not have been paying attention because it was a friday and it was at remington park in oklahoma but there was derby points race. Run yesterday and send your boost cadore which by the way means sir seeker was seeking remained perfect in his young career and he did just that in winning the springboard mile. Earning ten points toward a spot in the starting gate on the first saturday in. May he'll need a lot more than that and the waters will get much deeper for. Send your boost couture but the send a mine. Shaft is now a perfect to for to begin this young career. No horse that is running. The springboard mile has ever gone on to win the kentucky derby that certainly not the case for the los alameda futurity which is set to be run later today in california six kentucky derby winners have run in the low sale futurity and then on the next year to where the roses three of those finished. Second one finished third and was unplaced in the future already. Only one horse has won. Both the los alameda futurity and the kentucky derby can you name him. That's our trivia question for today show. Usually i do a poll question today. I thought it would be a fun trivia question. Who is the only horse to win. Both the los alamitos futurity and the kentucky derby. Let's see how many people in our nation get it right. I can take it a step further and say name. The horse that was unplaced. The only horse. Let's do it that way to all right. Let's let's have a little fun. Who is the only horse to win both below saleh meet charity and the kentucky derby and named the only horse to be unplaced in the future already and come back and win the kentucky derby the next year. Yeah that's fun to part question. They're the only horse to win. Both the los alameda sturdy and the kentucky derby and then name the horse the only horse to be unplaced futurity and win the kentucky derby following spring. Cianci's gonna love me for that one you can go to. Hr in twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. And let me know your thoughts. I'll pass those along later in the program. See how many people get that right. Today's field in the futurity is relatively small. Just six horses. And if history is any indication you would be very wise and we can say this about a lot of races including the kentucky derby by the way you would be very wise to keep an eye on any horses trained by hall of famer bob baffert and this year that arrow points straight at spielberg. Who was second choice at odds. Five to to. Bob has won the futurity a record twelve times there are there are trainers who work their tail off in this sport every single day and they would give their right arm to win twelve stakes races. Let alone graded stakes. Bob has won this particular race twelve times including each of the past six years. Now that streak that streak. It's not a chip shot this year for bob. That street could be in jeopardy because of the morning line favorite red flag who comes from barnard trainer. John sheriff's he throttled spielberg earlier this year. And they'll get a rematch in the grade to loselle futurity later today. That's race four on the card in southern california four twenty eight pacific time seven twenty eight eastern is when you can catch los alamitos. Futurity should be a good one. How about our old friend mack. Field remember him boy. what a career. It's been for max 'field already. The undefeated street cents returns again at the fairgrounds today in the stakes. He broke his maiden first out in september. Two thousand nineteen. He comes right back in the second. Start and wins the grade. One breeders futurity at keeneland. Everything is coming up roses from ashfield and that's exactly what his connections were. Thinking goes to the breeders cup juvenile in two thousand nineteen at santa. Anita get scratched right. Before the race with a bone chip he returns on may twenty third of this year to win the matt win at churchill. Downs great training job by walsh. And he would have missed the derby on the first saturday in may but with being moved to september because of the pandemic was one of the likely favorites will in june. Max 'field suffers yet another injury. This time a counselor fracture that required surgery. He's off the derby trail for the second time. Brutal absolutely this is a tough game. You better have your big boy pants on. If you're gonna play in this game off the trail for a second time. He returns today. We'll see him in action later today at the fairgrounds. And i'm going to talk with jimmy bell. Who is the president of us godolphin. Operation's he's going to be women coming up at eight thirty five eastern time to talk about the return of max field. Yesterday tim wilkin wrapped up a brilliant thirty five year career writing about horse racing for the albany times union. I believe it was nineteen eighty five the first year that tim started covering horse racing at other sports too in the albany region but he was so good it covering horse racing he worked as he worked tirelessly and he's been a a regular guest on this program the past several years. He typically joins us every travers morning and coming up at nine eastern. I'm going to spend some time with tim. Yesterday was his final day at the albany times union. I'll spent some time looking back on his career and listening to him share some stories some of his top moments. There have been several and really looking forward to that visit with tim. One of the classiest guys you're going to meet in thoroughbred racing too so that comes up at nine eastern at nine twenty. Eric camelback will be with me. Eric is the ceo of the national. Hp steve asmussen wrote an op. Ed piece that appeared in the december first edition of td and it involves racetrack safety. Not in the afternoons necessarily but during morning training. And eric's going to be with me from the hp to talk about steve's peace and share his thoughts from the horsemen perspective. And why this is such an issue so that comes up at nine twenty my first guest on the show kind of doing this in reverse my first guest at eight fifteen and just a few minutes is the husband. Wife team of ryan and andrew aggressive. They have started. Horsing julep racing club. And it's a fun fun venture. I'll tell you more about that. At eight fifteen or they will. It's it's really neat looking forward to that. Visit coming up in just a couple of minutes o. Rien and andrea aggressive coming up at eight fifteen eight thirty five jimmy bell from godolphin or industry star of the week comes around right right about eight fifty nine o'clock tim wilkin from the albany times. Union eric camelback from the bpa at nine twenty four roses bourbon segment in the second. Half of the program as well and special holiday. Treat for all of you looking ahead to Christmas which is coming up very shortly as we know. I don't back with more on the forum on h. R. airdrie stud cairo prince the leading third crop sire by number of stakes winners stakes horses graded stakes winners and graded stakes horses. He's also a top five general sire by the number of two-year-old winners so far in two thousand twenty and current crop of yearlings is his first conceived at a twenty five thousand dollars stud fee yearlings from cairo. Prince's fourth props sold for up to four hundred thousand dollars this year underlining his incredible commercial appeal at fifteen thousand dollar stands and nurses for twenty twenty one cairo prince's value in the extreme standing at airdrie stud think about it pie. This is joe. Nicholson during these difficult times. The team nicholson insurance agency. Since best wishes to all for good health we all look forward to better times ahead when this pandemic is behind us. But in the meantime we need to stay safe although the staffing nicholson insurance is working from home. Phone calls into the office or forwarded so that service remains intact. Customer service professionals. Continue to be ready willing and able to help you with your insurance needs whether it'd be equine farm home auto business or life. Several of nicholson insurance agencies. Companies are returning portions of auto premiums because of reduced travel during the isolation period. Which i think is the right thing to do. Please call eight five nine. Two two four seven zero eight zero. Nicholson insurance agency. Thank you the national. Hp is continuously working near protect the health and welfare of horses by advocating and funding research to help reduce quite injuries. Lobbying for national testing lab to oversee and establish absolute uniform laboratory protocols advocating for every track to undergo an annual independent surface assessment passionately. Supporting off the track thoroughbred retirement facilities and adoption groups and so much more see additional. Hp initiatives at national hp dot com racing fans. Don't miss opening day next saturday. December twenty six the day after christmas spectacular santa anita although there were still no public. Admittance you can watch every santa anita race free of charge at santa anita dot com slash live. And you can watch and wager it. I bet that's i dot com slash beck. Santa anita will present a total of sixty. Six on opening day highlighted by the great one. Run happy malibu. And two other great ones the la brea seven furlongs and for the first time ever on opening day. The american oaks milem one quarter on her tune in early on opening day special. I post time a tremendous eleven race. Card is eddie eleven. Am and don't miss track announcer. Frank mir ahmadi ahmadian. Tom quigley as a handicap. The opening day racist beginning ten twenty a m next saturday. For additional information please visit santa. Anita dot com. The steve asmussen. You're listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network and they are coming with a flurry of the quarter pole. Favorite trick has yet to start. His run. capetown is gearing up. he's five lengths away top for this threat and real quiet gets delayed on the outside and the entirely is under the weapons. Second kate town. We'll have to do more victory gallop at nine but real quiet about the poll. He's got bullied by to india. Charlie victory gallop still coming real worried. Victory gallopers toiling played. Wins the one hundred. Twenty fourth running of the kentucky derby welcome back to the forum on h. r. n. Kirk becker bringing them home in the nineteen ninety. Eight run for the roses. I play that clip because that was the same event the same year that i became engaged to my wife. Shelf got engaged with the kentucky. Derby a ninety eight real quiet went on to win. It was a spectacular day. A very memorable day for a lot of different reasons and i know that we could say the same for the husband. Wife duo of ryan andrea aggressive. Who are with me now. From horse racing club in south carolina ryan first of all a welcome you to the program will welcome andrea there with two. Let's start with ryan for a second. good morning. my friend thanks for taking the time. Good morning mike. Thank you so much. For having us on it's It's really surreal to be on his To be on the other side of the radio of after being a fan for so long and listening to all your shows. It's quite something well. I'm excited for this visit in andrea. Welcome to the program as well. i don't know did you guys get engaged at erasing event or was it a totally separate thing. I'll let andrea answer that it was a totally separate thing. But the special thing about our stories out ryan really pursued in horse country i think ever and when we were dating i think that was the first trip we took together. I knew taken. yeah fantastic. Aken is one of those places. That's on my bucket list. I've never been This past week. I had a chance to visit trainer ron stevens. Who trained in for more than thirty years in a train for dogwood and we'll talk more about him. I'm sure during this interview but Ron was just a fantastic guest on trainer. Talk this past week and ryan you were instrumental in helping me set. I can't thank you enough. It was my pleasure. I think I think the world iran. I think he's just phenomenal and love is stories. I love his You know just his personality and His craft you know and success with horses is has really been phenomenal and I was really glad to be able to connect you guys all right. So tell me more. And i'll just throw it to each of you and you can take it and run with but tell me more about horse and julep racing club. What is it. How does it work. How did the concept come about. Yeah i'll start Mike i I've been i've been a horse enthusiasts longtime celebrate enthusiasts almost twenty years now. I was one of those guys Mike that Spent more time studying. Pedigrees and racing forms in in my college classes than than textbooks however My background is primarily in in broodmares and matings and foaling and The racing element came along kind of developed a little later on and as andrew and i got married She came from a non racing background at also. I had my work cut out for me to to bring her along with With me and this. And so. I started taking her to some of these. You know places that. I felt like we're so special. I just wanted to introduce her to and so. Obviously lexington is at the center of that you would go and see You know mayors and foles that we had and and go see stallions and go to keeneland that we went to to saratoga race track. I mean sir. Togas just amazing Had a lot of fun in that community and go to places like ache in and Quaint little town even even places like gulfstream car in south florida. A lot of fun to offer. So i basically Tried to bring her along in in in in the they find experience element of all this and then from there Got her blessing to Take involved in some groups Some racing groups and we've done that and we had a little success But i will say the some of the things that we really wanted from that were Community and more that experience and we felt like that was an area that We we really felt like we could could offer more My background in our background together. We we love hospitality. We love getting people together whether that's here on trips Just r d in our dna and our life-blood so When we kinda had this crazy idea about a year ago and i reached out to fill haggar He's an agent kentucky. And i bounce this off of them a year ago last january and i said hey what what do you think about starting a group and and you know really want to build it around experiential and community and people meet each other and and have a lot of fun maybe even before the race the get to the races and thinking about how you could do that. I've always thought that You know a lot of the the best of the partnerships They they leave a lot on the table when they when they buy in in september and take them right to you. Know training center like ocala. 'cause you miss out in kentucky you miss out on lexington the bluegrass which is so and so We're going to back up and we're going to buy here in in january More the club this month We hope to have all the spots reserved by the end of the month here. And we're gonna form healthy and llc will go and buy january Feel is going to select those horses for us. And he is just phenomenal up and coming star He's just had great success. Worked under some phenomenal people like bill. Motte and you know other top. Agent's like Forgetting the names right now. But he's kind of worked at the success so we wanted to partner with just really successful people to give us the are group the best chance of success so the horses go from there to darby dan farm. I've got a relationship with them and you just wonderful see this vision in sierra passionate and said hey you know let your horses grow up here for the next you know for that. Six eight months before they go to the training facility in our partners will be able to go meet up there at some point Pending all this virus stuff. But we're we're planning to do that To get the partners together there and then from there they'll go down to south carolina to train We're hoping to get the partners. They're together as well. Wait this fall and do the same exact thing and have a great weekend out of it and we. We really excited to to put on some great for The the members before the horses even get to the races and then we've got obviously great aspirations for success there and diagnose great trainers defied that we to work with So mike that's really the the spirit of what we're trying to get through here andrea ryan mentioned that you were not into horse racing when he met you and i i read on your website. That your first intro into racing came about a decade ago with the queen's cup which is a steeplechase event held every year in south carolina Tell me a little bit more about about your involvement and what this rights been like for you. Sharon steeplechase the queen's cup in charlotte definitely and ryan and i are mutual friends. We'd gather there every year and every year. The girls hats are has got a little bit. Bigger each year We really put a lot into it. Just coordinating making it a fun time. and ryan would always take the lead and hosting and seeing his hospitality side. Come out One of the things that i was really drawn to him When we first started dating And i would make sweet tea. Mint juleps You know we just have a good time. Is it in by the way. I want to correct myself. I think i said south carolina that's held in is used at charlotte north carolina's where the queen's cup is But isn't that what at its core racing is all about andrea. We say that about the kentucky derby all the time that the fact that you can go and get dressed up and put on the big hats and guys can put on the finest coats and ties or you can go into the infield. Just hang out with a short not shorts and tee shirt. Whatever it is that. That's i mean to hear the way that you've gotten involved in what's captured you That's what the sports all about. Isn't it that's correct absolutely. Yeah and then. Addition you know to those races just the experiencing different cultures that these towns have offer where you know. I love to travel. I love experiencing different cultures and communities. And you know when ryan i were dating and his exposing me to these different communities. I learned that. I really don't have to go far. You don't have to go abroad to get An elegant experience you know and and try new foods and different people and see beautiful scenery. Yeah and it's going to be great. That people can experience this through the new horse in julep racing club. Which by the way if you wanna learn more You can go to horse and julep dot club that's horse and julep dot club and Check out the website. One thing ryan that. I told you that that really stood out to me when i looked at. Your website was the family aspect and i think that's going to draw a lot of people in Because of the fact that taken experience the sport on a bit of a a a different level they can do it together as a family they can do it as an individual and and they can be around your family and and go down this road with you guys. And i think that's fantastic ryan mike that is Something that we we definitely pride ourselves and we we just love. We love people. We let them of all all different Walks of life and that we actually have young. Kids yourself mike. We've got a four year old and a seven year old. And they love you know going to kentucky and they love seeing the horses and feeding some carrots and We you know we just launched this thing two weeks ago And we have been talking to a lot of people who this is resonating with and Some of the spots who that have already been taken Our our families with young kids and then got on the other spectrum. We've got grandparents with grandchildren. That are excited. Exposed them to this Sport and you know retirees that want to do this with with their retirement and then everything between You know people in careers professionals. So it's gonna be all walks of life and that's what we're excited about. People that have never owned horses before are signing up to do this which is really You know amazing that they're entrusting us with their first experience and then there's people who have actually been very successful in the game and if owned a lot of courses on their own and wanna do this because they want camaraderie and experience with people and community and we welcome all those people. It's it's going to be a lot of fun. And they are in good hands with your trainer. Phil hager to or bloodstock agent phil hager. Who is going to be over suing seeing things and picking out those babies and again partnerships. Yeah right now. Horse and julep dot club is where you can learn more or you can give ryan and andrea call. And i'm sure they'll be more than happy to answer any of your questions ryan andrea. Listen really appreciate the visit This interview like oliver interviews brought to our listeners by embrace the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle folks can wear what they love at embraced the race dot com and appreciate the visit this morning. Happy holidays and all the best horse and julep club mike. Thanks so much. And we're looking forward to that. I call for the interview after the first graded stakes adventure. Don't forget her number. That's exactly right. i'll be all over it. You got it ryan andrew. Thank you so much. Happy holidays mike. All right happy holidays guys. Yeah fantastic course and julep dot club a cool idea and we'll see how that plays out but it it seems certainly like this is going to be a big hit and i think you'll enjoy being involved with them. They're they're great people Speaking of great people it is time for your lexus. Legends of the turf segment. Brought to you every single saturday at this time by the lex historic lexington when i come back visit with jimmy bell. The president of godolphin's us operations and the president of the after care alliance. I'll talk to him about max field and about thoroughbred after care right after your lexus legends of the turf this lady had a wealth of character. A marvelous vibrant personality and she was indeed an inspiration to others. She was a lady through and through and the roaring nineteen twenties while still under twenty. She entered the world of racing as the owner of a steeplechaser. A racing stable brooke mead came into existence. A few years later she was at burst upon positi and great delight in needling and openly deflating and obvious inflated ego or infectious sense of humor provided her the tool for doing so especially in times of stress perhaps equally as synonymous with brooke meets stable and success. Where the names of precedent elliott burch. Who trained her horses. Preston began training for our lady of the moment in nineteen forty four and on october. Twenty first of that year he saddled her dear me for her in the maryland handicap at laurel. Dear me whip the redoubtable twilight here by seven lengths in that affair and that was virtuous first of a long long list of sakes winners. He saddled for brooke made birch was very patient with young horses and he and are subject. Probably receive more thrills from a horse named sailor than any other racing in her colors that was in the decade of the fifties while others racing in her colors included sword. Dancer bowl of flowers oligarchy. Her superb flower bowl won the delaware handicap in nineteen fifty. Six and on may second nineteen fifty. Nine sword dancer won the derby for her while on the very same day. Big effort won the better roses at the old jamaica racetrack on long island in one thousand nine hundred thirty-four our lady of the day as it were became the very first woman and american turf history to lead the winning owners list. Her bowl. flowers was voted philly. Champion of nineteen sixty and sixty one and sword. Dancer was voted horse of the year in nineteen fifty-nine. This marvellous lady dearly loved the thoroughbreds and among the many greats carrying her silks to the winter circle she considered her best to have been cavalcade sailor. Sword dancer and bolo flowers but she had a very soft spot for others including okapi songo and high quest and nineteen thirty four and sixteen years later in nineteen fifty brooke. Mead was the leading money winning stable in america from nineteen twenty five until her demise in nineteen sixty two horses one one thousand one hundred forty four races as previously indicated or trademark was love four and the ability to just with her trainers the virtues before big races she would often break the tension in the paddock by saying for example quote. Do you think i should put on the blinkers today or quote. Now you haven't put that saddle on right on. Her jockey would appear. She could be heard to say quote now. Preston you step back. I'm going to give the order on how to ride this horse today with a twinkle in awry of course and she would go on solemnly to say quote. You just go on out and win this race today. If it was muddy she would be quite apt to say now. Don't you dare get my colors dirty today. Yes this grand lady and that she was in every sense of the word through and through hell to the sporting ideals with best characterized racing to. It's very best. 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Nineteen seventy eight aboard affirmed and you are listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network bracing for the top of the stretch new york traffic. An pneumatic pneumatic tries to cut the corner off to turn. Traffic comes a little bit lied keys to hook up with free sixteen to go. Traffics in front max. Field is making progress here comes next field rallying boldly of the track near traffic wanders outside pneumatic digs and medfield continues to close traffic and max field pneumatic down inside. Max field is thinking derby win by a length. Running new york traffic pneumatic and attachment rate. Well that's the way it sounded. The last time. We saw max 'field on the race track travis stone. Have the call of the matt winn stakes at churchill downs. He was a winner that day after having the scratch from the breeders cup juvenile the previous year month before brendon. Walsh did a great job bringing him back getting him. Ready to fire his best shot he would have missed the kentucky derby had it been held on the first saturday may keep in mind. That race was may twenty third of this year. He would miss the derby if it was on. The first saturday may but would have being moved to september. Max field was among the favorites for this year's kentucky derby when a second injury forced him off the derby trail for a second time that's brutal. It has been a tough tough career so far for max fuel but with that said he so good and so talented that he is a perfect three for three and a grade one winner as a two year old and today he looks to get back on track and proved that he is still the real deal in the stakes at the fairgrounds. And that would be welcome news to jimmy. Bell who is the president of godolphin's us operations. He is with me now. Here on the equine form. Jimmy good morning. My friend always great to catch up. Good morning to you enjoyed here in that race car. That feels like we're back in action. You're back in action in a big way today. And you know i went through earlier in the show and i just kind of recap that very quickly there but this has been such an up and down career for max 'field and i can imagine this has to be one of the more frustrating scenarios that you've ever been involved with well frustrating. Yes but on the other hand It there's a sense of confidence because not too often or year round horse. It obviously shows the talents. Max fields had from you. Know yourself Breaking your first time out going right from there into a great one race And obviously have another time out coming back and off the off the bench in run a race like that in the met win. So i mean he's in three racist he shown so much that Even though it's been a long time between races know what you always hope for. I don't think once we don't question. Is this talent and for that reason. We're really optimistic and excited the same back in action and and more importantly as you earlier alluded The patients that everybody has shown especially brendan and bringing him back and Hopefully we're we're looking for you know very productive for your season with a full body of work that can maybe show The talents of this this cult time and time again. So very very you know. We're very excited to be back in here. We are ready ready ready to run in the afternoon. You know jimmy. I come at this from the outside looking in but you are obviously intimately involved with every move. That takes place with mac 'field and i talked about earlier in the program. I talked about that training. Job that brendan did getting him. Back to the races after being scrapped from the breeders cup in two thousand nineteen the breeders cup juvenile. Getting him back for the matt win but not just back to the races getting him back and ready to fire his best shot after all that time. Off and overcoming that that initial injury. How good of a training job was that by brennan. Well i think i think he I think you hit on the head. I think is his hole. Card is tremendous patience. I think he region horses very well. These the consummate horseman himself. So you know. He's been both on their backs. And on the ground. And i think he's got that that extra sense of of Communicating with horses. That he himself you know we'll get on them and he's got that feeling nose and He he really lets the horse sort of talk to him and tell him when and where and we were on the phone just the other day and he said you know we're gonna have to run. He he's figured it out he's ready We know there's still probably few cobwebs and a little bit rust on the wheel. But that was the case. Obviously in the matt win as well and You know it just takes probably very very counted individual to be able to Only physically be ready to run but mentally. Be ready to run. And that's something. We probably don't talk about all the time. It's the mental aspect as well and One of the one of mexico's greatest attributes is mental toughness and just how he is so professional in how he goes about his daily routine and i think it makes a little easier for brennan to re him because he's he's very genuine. He tells you right where he is. And you know you. You've got to be able to be picking up on. All the signs and and brendan does a phenomenal job at that. Take me through the past seven months. Since that win in the matt win at churchill jimmy one of these past seven months but like from ashville well again. You know the good news. Is that neither neither one of the new. One of the time outs were were really. You know truly significant and we just we did the right thing about the horse gave him ample time to completely He'll come back get back into his own rhythm. And i think that You know this this game is built on hope and and you know that if you just get the opportunity to get him back you'll take care of the rest or certainly that's our feelings and listen. Today's no easy. It's never an easy spot coming back You know you're in there with with a tough force from Steve asked me. You gotta always respect that. Then there's always the hard knocking old horses alcohol's dolls got a tougher locally owned So this is a great spot to come back in. But it's not an easy spot but there's also no easy spots when you're out of condition so you can't just exactly dip your toe in the shallow when you gotta jump in and see where you're at and You know we. This is the beginning. This is this is. This is just what it is. This is hopefully the beginning of an important Year racing for him. You were kind enough. Jimmy by the way talking with jimmy bell the president of dolphins. Us operations you were kind enough to join me on this show. The morning of the matt win on may twenty third and one thing that you spoke about was his pedigree and he is a son of street. Sense out of bernardini mayor. Now i know that that's a pedigree this near and dear to to darley godolphin's heart but that pedigree bernardini has become an outstanding broodmare sire. What he's accomplished at his age is is really puts him at the top of the chart of a broodmare sires. You know you're a long time to come. And i mean it's just amazing. You just be casual reading steak entries. Or the pee pees on horse a much as another daughter burned any. That's another daughter bernardini and You know what he's accomplished is is really phenomenal and You know how great it is to have. of course. it's going to pass them on. We always talk about sour sons of cyrus sars in the in the mail on but To be able to carry on and make no mistake. His impact. is a broodmare sire. We'll be significant for really really generations to come and and a foundation for a lot of operations of having those young bernardine mayors jimmy. The news came out this past week by the way. Good luck with max 'field later today. I'll shift gears on us here. The news came out earlier this week. That you were elected once again as president of the third red after care alliance and that's an organization that i know from day one has been near and dear to your heart Talk about the importance of after karen this sports. I know sometimes. I think that might get overlooked a little bit when we start talking about all the racing so tell me about the importance of aftercare. Well you know it does exactly you hit it right on the head you know initially for i think we started in two thousand twelve Initially it was about just awareness. Awareness awareness making people aware of the after racing. And what goes on or just stop that day and so initially that just trying to make people aware and then we moved into educating people and now under you know understanding more after you become aware of the educational process and today some eight years into it. It's it's now talking about in terms of the obligation. You know this is. This is not a this this part of owning a horse. This is part of Having the blacksmith come by me these are all taking care of. The horse is an obligation as well so this whole thing has been awareness education obligation. And it's it's not an easy thing. Keep drilling on. But but i think it's become a part of the Sort of a plank in the platform of our industry that i think the industry involved in industry collectively understands and recognizes you know the this is a major component of owning a horse in and what the industry is doing and have made tremendous a tremendous move forward in that regard. I mean if you look at the day we have i think. Eighty one accredited organizations in over a hundred and seventy facilities We've we've generated over twenty million dollars and probably assisted. I think that eleven thousand thurber so yes very very significant and You know. I think that that one of the great things about the third reich after care alliance is is that it's it's sort of gotten the good housekeeping seal when you're raising that kind of money people really wanna worse going. What is doing. And i've jokingly said many times i'm not sure how well we would do when they come to Inspect and accredit your operation to be able to become accredited by the ta. I mean there's an education component. There's go through the facilities. People literally go to these places and look at them and talk to him about adoption policies You know they have to be an operation three or four years before you can even apply to this thing so we've got the confidence of everybody knowing that this money is going where it needs to be which is always a question mark when you're when you're making these kinds of contributions but you know the ta has come a tremendous long way. We got this. This is this is a big big problem in something that we can't just sorta take lightly but it's you gotta you gotta keep gotta keep out for everybody's Perspective what are some of the things moving forward jimmy that you would like to see accomplished by the t. a. n. On the after care. Front in general. Well i think funding you know funding has to be and we've got to. We've got to continue to find ways to be sustainable. I mean we get we get some great spikes in some great Ha moments were gosh. That was great. Somebody stepped up or somebody this but you know this is an industry obligation. Initially when we set this thing up. We tried to make many small touch points as possible. You know at the sales at the racetrack here. There and yonder just a little bit but It it's it. It takes a lot of You know a lotta bookkeeping a lot of communication coordination and you know one thing that i'm excited about is a look at the board of directors and the people that are involved from You know from officials in racing offense to sales companies to people jockey club to know everybody's got some areas of expertise and skill sets. That have made this. you know. Very very Significant operation and to answer your question. You know we've just got we've got to find that magic way to to get this thing sustainably-funded it's it's it's it's very hard going back every time and trying to reinvent the wheel and we can just get some overall by end where people understand is one for all all for one That's where our sustainability comes from and it's all about you know continuing to to fund this. It's as you can tell with one hundred and seventy facilities. And i think this year we we handed rewarded or granted over three million dollars. That's a lot to do every year in. You know it doesn't stop. You've got it every year so it's not like it's one time off and we got that done it's continue. And now you get to work alongside my man. Jeff bloom to absolutely and you know and again. that's glad you brought that up. I mean john phillips was the past president. Everybody's had a real skill set that it's been at the helm of thing and and brought a unique perspective of what they can do. Well you know. Get jack wolf. Initially you know did a fantastic job. It was not easy to get this off the ground then knock came in for a brief stint and pulled up john phillips back again as i said you even step aside which king step away and now jeff is going to go to take over next year after after mass my year. And you know again. There's a guy that's very committed. He understands that he's been on the ground He's compassionate about it and he's got spheres of influence others of us don't and You know again. Everybody brings a little something to the table and very excited to have jeff onside and he's been a big supporter all the way through. Well you can go to thoroughbred after care dot org if you wanna learn more about the thoroughbred after karelian again. Jimmy bellwood made the president of godolphin's us operations and the thoroughbred after care alliance jimmy. You would be hard pressed to find somebody. That's a better ambassador for our sport than you. My friend and i've known you long time and greatly appreciate all your efforts and everything you do for the sport and greatly appreciate you taking the time this morning. Happy holidays my friend bo. Same to you and what a great job you do kinda get a good message out this the other and listed it's It's an honor to be a part of this and Whenever little things we can do hopefully make a little difference but you know just pleased and privileged to be a part of it. Yeah thanks for the time jimmy. Merry christmas maybe you enjoy thanksgiving. Appreciate me jimmy bell here on the horse racing radio network fantastic work both on the inside and the after care side but you you want somebody to be a spokesperson for this industry and jimmy bells a pretty good choice. Yeah you'd be hard pressed to find a better choice than jimmy bell. 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And i love listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse. Racing radio network at the of these days is almost four on friday. Don't take some of our employees. I god this. Welcome back to the client. Corum on h. r. n. Trevor denman have the call of the nineteen ninety preakness the dogwood stable color bearer summer squall getting the victory turning the tables on derby winner unbridled. It was a tremendous performance. One that meant so much to kat and the people that caught campbell was around with dogwood. it was a special special moment indeed. And because of that. I thought it would be appropriate to honor longtime dogwood stable trainer ron stevens as our industry started the week. The segment brought to you every week by my good friend. Stuart morris who offers boutique full-service bloodstock operation. He wants to thank his owners his clients and his team. He knows his success is because of you and with multiple stakes horses over the past several years that include henley's joy our brain trust malagasy and south bend stewart. Morris is your source for success at the highest levels and you can visit stuart and his consignments at all of the major sales which will be coming up shortly. No doubt about it Stewart does a fantastic job So ron stevens train for cot campbell and dogwood for thirty plus years and it was a wonderful relationship. Ron has done fantastic work. And he joined me for the full hour on trainer. Talk this past week and you can go back and listen to that show presented by phasing. Tipton you can listen to it on our website. But he's done such great work that i thought it would be cool to cut out some soundbites and a that interview and play it for you. Here ron stevens. Our industry star of the week he started looking back on that performance and that talented colt named summer squall. Well i'll tell you what just listening to that stretch again. Like i have a thousand times. Still gives me goosebumps That was that was pretty exciting and You know cut had done a fabulous job of getting started with syndication but that really put him on the map. That was a real summer. School was a stamp of you. Know really making his mark and of course. Ah just boil over and help me out too so Yeah great memories We were talking about getting day and when we came to summer squall came day. Could there'd be broke. We bought him out of the summer sale from will farish and He was handful. He was a kind of an ornery little cuss but he was an athlete. And i remember back on the catalog page. When we looked at him. I had written some things like little small steady Didn't have the head instead. Is we used to call them. I guess pig is but now we call them summer. Squall is but he's a very intelligent cope but he was a little anri side but I've had big letters on that page athlete. He was just so athletic so quick. So light on his feet that he really got your attention to get but he handful and We rent him in trials here. And i'm the only trainer that got beat the two year old. He was five for five ending up by winning the hopeful but Neil howard who trained him was very kind. He's told people rounded sent him a baked cake and all they do is take him out of the oven which was You know help me out a little bit too. So i appreciate that. Neil and i are very good friends that have been for a long time. He's a great guy. Great trainer the summer school kind of put us on the map. And as you said got redemption for the kentucky derby. I i was there. I thought he had one but i think the crowd and some other things got him but He came back in redeemed himself. And of course the jim beam the bluegrass hopeful. Toga special and i don't think he got enough credit to stay in a lot of people know that he produced some nice mayor's broodmare sire but He also produce charismatic. You know And everybody remembers him. And what happened. At the belmont with chris hanley but And of course he has runners to like of course storm song. We picked her out at a september yearling sale and she would be a champion and wanna breeders cup up in canada so yeah summer squall will always have a big suspect in my heart. Who's the toughest horse that you've ever been around. Probably american donna cokie One of the first people that go to england and get some horses like dominion. Who was a nice day course and everybody started doing this so he went to had a doctor. Veterinarian go to argentina we bought two phillies up here. Face on and donna cocky There's a dna people don't remember but she was a nice mayor. She won the chief. Kid bay But a funny story at the farm it was just before we came back and i had a policy that when the horses came in we wanted to get their temperature check him out and i also had a policy that i wouldn't ask my groups do anything i wouldn't do so when the groom came up and said I need your help getting the temperature of this there. I knew something was up. Especially when i saw the other grooms huddle around. They're probably waiting to see me. Get kicked real good. So i walked up through the saw. I put my hand on her head. I ran up ear. I said hundred degrees right on the money and i turned and walked away The next morning groom couldn't catch her in a stall. And i went in and she wheel and fired with both hind legs and i grabbed some bars and hung like a monkey and she kept firing and then she looked at me and adjusted a little bit fire some more when she got tired. I dropped down and got out but she was very very tough way. The veterinarian never got a cassock separation on her before she raced Very never got high shoes on her at the farm trimmed. Her myself And when the bed header tranquilized as much as he could with straw bales behind her and tried to catholic. She's kicked those bales around like they were to fix so and probably the funniest story i remember was when she was racing after she had won the sheep's head bay cotton i. We're up there and we were getting ready to leave. Even walk down the shed row saying goodbye. The horses and As we walked by she charged hit the webbing and our teeth snapped. Sound like a rifle going off. And i didn't even break stride. He just kinda looked at her. And said we'll good buddy you don and we just kept on walking now. I will say that we bred her a couple of times and as a broodmare. She met her that she was fine but she was one tough son of again all right. Let's flip that around a little bit. How about the horse. That you would say was probably the most perfect young lady. The most perfect gentleman that went on to maybe do some really good things on the race track. I'm gonna have to switch from dogwood horrid. I've had wonderful class fantastic lance over the years and and one of those was mr net evans springhill farm and we had the pleasure of Having a horse that actually got a reputation for not being gentle but he was falsely accused. Snow be quality. Road road With a fantastic racehorse made over two million dollars and should make way more than that. But mr evans had he usually sold most of his coal to catch his phillies and at the sales that commit they he was having me look at most of the yearlings. And kinda give him an appraisal. What i thought and i love. This cold is big strong. Nice looking coat with kind. I and i said you know. I really like him. I wouldn't give him away. And he did our na him in september and kept him. He came to me on the first in november and he said now. I want you to person his co. 'cause i'm going to i i really wanna get rid of the cold so i'm going to put him back in the keeneland two year old sale. I said okay. I looked at the big colts already november but we went to work and he broke like a just like a puppy dog. This never took a bad steph. Never anything wrong perfect in the gate and when we started galloping. I saw the move into this cold. I told mr evans I'm not sure you want to sell him. You might wanna hang onto him. Well he said. Oh no no i want to sell him. And i trained horses for mr evans for twenty years. And he was a man when he made up his mind about something that was always going to be. And you didn't change it too often but Chris baker became his manager back about that time. And i got him on my side. He's so i'm training love to ganged up on him. And said are we really think you ought to keep this cold and to his credit and we were probably partly lucky to he kept quality road and that was the last really nice horse that he had He wanted to florida. Derby was a favorite for the kentucky derby or co favorite and then got a quarter crack. His reputation came up as big. A handful was that the breeders cup where he was like co-favourite for the five million dollar race and just before the race the Tv helicopter came out taking pictures and he got a little bit rattled. And i promise you that. I swear that they give him thirty seconds to settle and just to walk them in the circle the headed and he would have been fine because after that race todd pletcher. Who had him and trained him School him he never did anything wrong in the gate again. He ran many more times. Never did anything wrong and again but they were in a hurry. I guess they grab even twisted it there and through a blindfold on him and they had twelve hundred pounds of muscle. That said no. You're not going to make this happen. So he got a reputation of being a bad gate horse which he was not he was one of the easiest. Nicest that i've worked with Just a couple of the fantastic stories. From ron stevens longtime trainer for dogwood and as you heard him say other clients as well in south carolina. Run our industry star of the week in that interview in that segment. Brought to you every saturday. By stuart morris gonna get to a break. When i come back hour number two. It kicks off with tim. Welcome from the albany times union. Eric camelback will be with me. From the hp a to talk about steve asmussen's op. Ed that appeared in the december first. Td end so a lot of things to get to in the second half of the show. That's all the head right after we pause ten seconds for station identification. 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If you any portion of the first half of the show you miss jimmy bell with a sensational interview. Talking about max 'field a thoroughbred after care. That's something you want to go back. And listen to the industry star of the week. You just heard ron stevens and ryan and andrea greg with of the horse and julep racing club talking about that new concept and launching those partnerships head back over to our website if you missed them horse racing radio dot net a podcast of this show will be available after we finish up at ten o'clock eastern Horse racing radio dot net and horse racing radio network on apple podcasts throughout eight trivia question for you today in honor of the los alamos futurity which would be run later today in southern california and six kentucky derby winners have run in the los l. futurity and then gone on of course where the roses the following spring. Only one horse has won both races. Can you name him. Can you name the only horse to win. Loselle futurity and the kentucky derby can go to hr n. Twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. And i'll pass along that answer and all the correct answers later in the show. Second part of that question of those six three finished second one finished third. Of course he had the one winner. One horse of the six was unplaced. Only one finished off the board in the los futurity and then came back. The following year to win the kentucky derby. Can you name that horse so to parts of that question and you can do it on our social media pages at h. r. n. on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. Well i told you that the second half of the show was going to kick off with a very special interview tim. Wilkin has had an unbelievable career covering thoroughbred racing. Thirty five years with the albany times union. That career came to a close yesterday. But i thought it would be appropriate before he introduce you to tim to welcome him by looking back on. Well kind of where it all started their goes chief's crown gaining ground fast account with mccarron on the rail. She's the favorite now moves. In the second gaining garland the center they approached the topless wrench. It's cutlass reality. On the rail on the outside chief further out there goes creme maple on the rail with bin chi stephens out. See she's crown reality stephens honestly on the real honestly all rail pincay now gains the lead on the outside has sheaves crown and father out here comes cram past the eighth pole. His the entry of what he savings. Creme fresh maple seven with pin chi. She's crown third home. Fresh on the outside has a lead by steph impression from well that was the nineteen eighty five travers. Stakes and tim wilkin. That's where it all began for you. I know you've covered the travers every year since and it's been a magical ride really appreciate the visit my friend. Hey mike thanks it. Awful lot for that Yeah i don't know whether years though the only the good part is still cover racing for the paper. Yeah it's great to have you still involved. You're retiring from the times union. You'll be able to stay involved with thoroughbred racing which is great news. Yeah and And i'm not going to give the answer. But i think i know your question for trivia questions. Yeah you'll have a tweet to me. You ought to respond on the twitter and say yeah i. I'll do that. Yeah i don't know where the thirty five years have gone. I mean it's just Data like yesterday. I was Going up and just trying to find my way to the saratoga press box for the first time. And you know i i mean i. I seven years in the business. I was working for the sarah token newspaper. So i've actually had forty two years of of saratoga coverage in this seems it's my boggling to think that it's thought that law maybe it doesn't feel right doesn't feel like it's been that long but yeah so and here we are. Yeah you know the the call we just heard. I think i said chief's crown travers. That was your first travers eighty. Five that was creme fresh winning the belmont stakes and eighty five. But that was the year that you started tim. And when you started in eighty five did you ever imagine we'd be sitting here in twenty twenty and talking about you wrapping up this career at the times union. All these years later that back then. I was just hoping that if eighty five i was keep i never had any illusions that I'd still be doing this long. But i guess i'm like a river. I just keep moving when you think back on these thirty five years and there was a a piece that appeared. I think it was in the albany times union. I saw it on twitter That had you looking back on some of your top memories not just with horse racing but the other stories and people that you covered over the years. What are some of the things on the racing side that truly stand out to you lawyer. I could probably talk to you on that until opening day at saratoga There's just so so many obviously covering saratoga is just not only been a pleasure but it's been treat to be able to go up there every morning. Which is the best part of the day for me to to the in the mornings and you know watch workouts. Talk to trainers when i started. I'd be out there. Listening to woody stephen sitting on as poli telling every day that the end of conversations that wanna remind at one five months in a row and was always special talking to what he talked to the d wayne lukas in his office. wayne with tell me that He'll yet he had Not shutters but Yes you even have as windows shut. So no one could see in but he said that he could see out. He was always telling me when he saw me he would allow me to commend because he liked me. And that only you know resonated with me that you know i got the respective someone like him and just down the road from him it. Oklahoma traded trans nick. Zito always had plenty of great conversations with saint dick and You know and still do to this day and the list goes on and on with the trainers that i've talked to when you know i've gotten a relationship that bob baffert helped up my calls and so you'll talk about everything ranging from you. Know his horses to his His you know his critics and and also the people that With all the problems with the positive. He's very spend very frank with me about that and again and the horses to i mean Who would love to be able to do what i do. Be able to go out there and see these great animals Perform in the mornings before they look at the work in the afternoon. You know rachel. Alexandra a sheet or pops up as one of the most impressive ones ends yada during the breeders cup. Though when you're able to see her and listening to john sheriff's tell the great stories about yada You know i could name poor at this year with skydiver I got to get up close and personal with and she was. She's just inquisitive friendly animal. Who's just a beast on on the racetrack. So you know i. I just can't You know tell you. How grateful i am that i've been able to do all of that. Does the same with tim wilkin. Who as you heard me say wraps up a thirty five year career with the all many times union. He'll still continue to cover racing. Which is great news for all of his fans out there and there are plenty of those tim last year. You were honored with the walter. Hate award from the national turf writers. Broadcasters that's a prestigious award that Honors career excellence in writing on thoroughbred racing. What's the there have been several pieces that you've written that will resonate with people but how about for you. What's the one or two stories that you have written over the years that are going to be among your favorite stories boy. That's a loaded question right. There might Scrap answer that. I'm going to answer it in a different way. Maybe just chronicling different events Obviously the the Triple crown runs of Justifying especially american farrell. Because farrell is the first one that did it since a firm that was those are magical moments for everyone that follows thoroughbred racing and everyone that covers over racing. Because i've been to a you know a handful of a bunch of those Belmont stakes were the triple crown. The line and there was so much in patient saying this year filing be year and never was you know what the likes of funny cide. Kroll and I mean easy. Goer beat sunday sunday. silence In the belmont there was just so many of those moments that you know you would be. The people were waiting to explode. Elmont park to welcome the next triple crown winner when it finally did happen. Roar at belmont park with ferrell was bounding down the stretch. That day was something that i never. I never heard sound like that and it was a and that's an outdoor Place i mean. It was just a celebration of of finally getting triple crown winner. And i mean the the noise level at saratoga when rachel alexandra the voice of the woodwork in two thousand nine that was That was another home in Forever remained in my mind. I my is special. You know that You could be basically you really could hear the rafters shaking. When she won that race. You know those are the things that You don't forget and Now i hope i have a bunch more memories like that to to to Experience but no so far. I mean there's been so many of them. I remember doing stories leading up to triple crown rods and talking to people Failed you know. And how they what their emotions were like. I mean i did that before I did it before justifies crowd. Talbot wait. I think i did it before. Farrell's triple crown win. And then and i did that You know it seems like every year and another story to just recently is the exploits of Tis the laws goes up are parts. it's Because the local ownership with toga stable and the act older was a big story around here. You know covering barkley tag. A daily basis is to me a very very much an enjoyable experience in You know i. I hope he Obi rebounds from the breeders cup runs big pack of your. I referenced the piece. That and i believe it's in the albany times today. Tim was it yesterday Talking about some your top memories. i think it's online now. Okay final column supposed to here tomorrow. and but i guess basically. I'm i guess i'm still going to have i do year end stuff. That's going to appear next week so some people. I think i'm lying. When i say i'm leaving because my pick my my violent will be in the paper next week but rest assured after that you won't see me for a while until the horses the till the spring probably as excited to to do the interview with you but one of the pieces that is included in that online feature about your top moments is a chat that you had with your longtime friend. Mike jarboe who worked with you at the albany times. Union mike is no longer with us. He passed away but when he retired in. Two thousand fifteen. You sat down with him for a question and answer that had to be. I can imagine one of the more special things that you've done looking back on the fact now that that makes no longer with us it was. It was mike and i had a really good special relationship and We you know we did this thing. Every summer in the in the paper was just back and forth doing the bankroll beatdown every day and it became pretty popular people hated or loved it there though in between with mike was a good a good character who had no problem laughing at himself. But you know he He relished the idea of being able to be made fun. Of which i did on a daily basis and those queuing as that i that i did too i did with him. It's something i would do on a regular basis. And i did a lot of with racing people africa zito. D wayne lukas. Todd pletcher chad brown. I mean just about everybody jockeys to you know and i just decided. I think people were giving me their time. You know covering racing especially in the morning was not going to cover baseball or football or your window locker room and talk to the players after after their games after a practice. I mean you're out there in the mornings. They're working and you have to work around their schedule and that's one of the things i wanted right away. You talk to them when they're ready to talk to you unless you're jewish you just up and say i'm ready to talk to you. let's go that's That was the things she had to learn. And it's you have to have a lot of patients to cover horse racing. And i think i've learned that pretty well. Lemme there's gonna be a lot of people in the capital region who were going to miss your your articles your columns your insight into two different things but in horse racing were very blessed. You'll be able to continue covering it. I look forward to when we travel again getting back out. See you at the races and You know looking forward to seeing more great stuff from tim. Wilkin up over the next two years As we we continue to watch you cover racing but man. Congratulations on unbelievable career. Thirty five years in the albany times union is certainly very special and really appreciate appreciate the visit here this morning. Yeah i appreciate you. Give me the time to have this visit like. I've always enjoyed our time when our paths would cross especially when We would be on the air on travers. They always have fun doing that. That'll continue. Yeah you're spot is already reserved. It wouldn't be travers morning without tim. Wilkin why appreciate your saying that. But i think it probably would be. But i appreciate the sentiment timmy. Listen i appreciate it buddy. Have have a great holiday and Again thanks for being here this morning. Mike thank you and happy holiday to you yours. Tim wilkin that interview. Like oliver interviews brought to you by embrace the race. The apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race dot com so cool that he's going to be able to continue covering racing for the albany times union. That's part of his deal as he walks away after thirty five years and Yeah really does a fantastic job. He's dedicated and to his. Writing is just so much fun to read some great stories there from tim. 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You're listening to the equine on the horse racing radio network damning here and being put them put me in the hall of fame in this class is putting my parents in the hall of fame and everything. My father did was never a look at me. Never an award for it but is the definition of man and are we're standing up your means celebrated and honored for and i think this is definitely for you that thank you forever. You always done for me in your family. That's an emotional. Steve answer as he was inducted into horse racing hall of fame in two thousand sixteen. It was a very special day. We were there providing that coverage here on the horse racing radio network and Yeah that was. That was a special moment for steve for his family. And only dale baird has more victories in thoroughbred racing than steve asmussen and on december first steve wrote a piece in op ed to the thurber daily news and involved the issue of race track safety but not in the afternoons in the mornings when trainers are sending horses out for their morning works in their training sessions and to help me shed more light on that. Is eric camelback. The ceo of the national hp. A eric good morning appreciate the visit. My friend hey. Good morning mike. Yeah very glad as always to be invited to get on the show and You know just always appreciative of what you do for us. And and thanks for having me on. Well steve piece Focused as i said much more on the issues of tracks limiting are dictating when a track would close the surface for morning training and and basically take a day off and as we know from reading through this piece. In hearing steve's fahd's on it that's something that can be detrimental to the training schedules of horses and ultimately the health of horses. So tell me a little bit more about this This op ed. That steve rowe. Yes no i. I and i certainly don't want to speak for steve. But we were able to have conversations before he put this out there and getting my opinion or giving him my opinion. I just really am passionate about the same thing he is. And that overall picture of equine health and safety needs to incorporate professional horseman trainers that. Marion's that take care of these horses every day. And you know that got pinpointed into something very specific for him. And i've had a tremendous number of calls since his op. Ed from other trainers that really again. Seeing this this short-sighted cost cutting move that that's being portrayed by race track ownership some racetrack ownership groups. It's not healthy for the horse and it's certainly not allowing trainers to do what is in the best interest of their horse and i also had a numerous calls from owners that to be honest. Had no idea right. They were not aware that they had policies being dictated. And i think the one thing that i wanna make sure is clear. And i think steve would too. It's not about not giving a horse that a day off Imagine there's too many horses out there that don't have a scheduled walk day but at the end of the day that needs to be scheduled by the professionals taking care of the horse. I mean right. Now we're in a world of scrutiny and doing what's best for the horse so if you in essence handcuffed professional trainers and say we're gonna take this day off and it doesn't matter What your horses schedule. Is that presents a problem to horses. And you know being able to to then go in and have dr hawk talk about something that i that i had mentioned. to steve. You know in my day on the race track in louisiana growing up. When it's hot we always had issues with forces tying up. I mean it was a big. It's a it's a problem. I mean it is and that was something that i was glad. Dr hawk agreed with and certainly really drew down the veterinary aspect These horses need to get out and exercise and to have a mandated day that that oftentimes doesn't take into account weather You know if you have a horse. Scheduled to to breeze on sunday The weather's not good but you're you're mandated. Day off is monday Your your entire schedule for that horse gets thrown off So i think it's important that if you really look at the overlying picture of what steve's trying to convey it's not just about the day off that's being mandated it's about the fact that many of these ownership groups are continuing to dictate What they consider safety measures and ultimately not taking into account other opinions such as horsemen Such as veterinarians. And i i would i would venture to say there's several superintendents that are out there. That would also maybe not on the record but say you know a day off for the racetrack. Sitting idle is not good for the racetrack So having the ability to to work the racetrack is extremely important. I say many many times. I've said you know a racetrack as much like a plant it is completely Affected by the weather and ultimately if you're not there to take care of it something's going to go wrong and if something goes wrong with the track we've seen it. Horrific ways is something goes wrong with attract. Something goes wrong with the safety of our horses. Will you know. Here's a point that. I wanna make eric what what happens. And i want to ask you the second question here in a minute but in terms of a lot of times when we start seeing horses get ready for the kentucky derby trainers will base the final workout or final couple of workouts before the derby on the weather conditions and say for example. A track is closed on a tuesday. Let's just pick a random day. They're closed tuesday. That was a day that the trainer was going to have this horse. Work for any big race doesn't have to be the kentucky derby all of a sudden. They closed on tuesday so the horse can't go to the track that day wednesday. There's a deluge of rain. The track is a c- a slop. The trainer says okay. I can't train today either now. You've gone two days without getting your workout in and you have to come back the following day assuming that the track condition is good. Or you're forced to work over that sloppy racetrack. Which a lot of trainers don't like to do is that really. At the core a scenario that could play out they could be very very detrimental to horses themselves Well if you go one step further with your analogy or they skip the race. You know did that. That's get racing secretary involved in this and you talk about horses scratching because they can't do their scheduled workout What i see is the core of this being that the health and welfare of the animal is being able to train each day. But yes when you're scheduled to go into a particular race like you said it could be a great at stake. It could be a maiden special weight if you get thrown off schedule and you're not able to do what is in the best interest of the horse and the trainers opinion right. We're entrusting these trainers to take care of the horse. Get them to the races and get them back home in their stall safely. If they're not able to allow their protocols and regimes they may skip race. They may have to scratch from the race. They you know certainly don't want to necessarily work in the rain or or you know. Have a horse go over a track that they've determined you know you know before the break the track's not great. I'm not work after the break. You know oh. Yeah by the way using your analogy. Wait a minute attracts closed tomorrow. So that's not even an option. Do you force their hand to to make them work again. Not in the best interest of the horse so you know it is a core problem But also going one step past your example. Is they scratch. You know if if they can't get that work in if they can't follow their pro their their schedule they may have to scratch and the horse doesn't make the race and then we gotta go away. Who knows how long to wait for another one so young. That point is bad for the owner. It's bad for the betting public because it's a shorter field for the race track because shorter feels don't generate as much handle it it. It's a whole trickle down effect and this is you know kind of something that a lotta people didn't even know what's going on myself included. I didn't know so many actually. How many tracks are instituting. These policies are so. I'm not going to get in that political Corner right. Now we we're doing our best to investigate survey find out exactly the ownership groups that are putting this mandate together but there are quite a few And that's again. It's it's actually been a concern before steve Greatly put up his op. Ed it's been a concern but again when you have A hall of fame trainer. Speak out on something like this. Then you again. Using a trickle down terminology then you start to see. Wait a minute. I i agree with that. And you you get a lot more hands raised and you get a lot more heads that pop up and say as you did. I didn't realize that was going on and again i. I've had owners friends of mine that called and said i didn't realize that was even an issue and it is But they're not gonna pinpoint the tracks and steven. I actually talked about that he was. We don't want to name tracks the end of the day. It's a policy taking care of the horses and we want everybody to take care of the horses. I and that's a lot of different firms. Yeah without naming names. There are several tracks instituting policy. Such as this. Yes okay all right. We have about four minutes left by the way visiting with eric. Camelback the ceo of the national hp Eric there was a second op. Ed that i want to talk about and i didn't tell you i was gonna ask you about this so if you're not prepared to talk about it let me know but it was called. Where are we going from here. And it was from leroy guests men who has been a guest on this program many times. He is the president and chairman of the board of the national. Hp pa what is that piece about an what does that focus Well thanks for for asking Ultimately i think everybody knows the situation that we're in right now. The continued struggle With the horse racing integrity and safety act Is it the thing to do Is it not the right thing to do Should there be a federal oversight for horse racing and medication and testing program But ultimately this this piece from leroy drew down on the fact that what is it that americans hate most about politics The fact that things get pushed through things get prioritized by elite and money and ultimately don't have to go through proper procedural protocol And so when you really look at haifa the legislation. i think. It's pretty obvious that it's been delayed so long. There's a tremendous amount of opposition for it not opposition for uniformity not even necessarily opposition for federal oversight. There is opposition for the way. This current bill is structured. So what happens money and power. Get to sneak it in and so what what's going to happen. This bill has never gone through a senate committee. This bill has never been debated on the senate floor. This bill has never had a senate vote of voice vote Which there were senators. Promised that that would happen. And what's going to happen now. It gets stuffed into a omnibus funding. Bill that ultimately it's an embarrassment in my opinion of american politics and how things can work and not go through the proper procedure. We're all about having things debated organization out there that is duly elected board members. You know they're not they're not chosen. They're not appointed. They're not giving ten to wear on their lapel. They are elected by the members period. And we want fair democratic debate and this isn't happening and this is what americans dislike most about politics in america and it's happening right in our industry if the majority speaks that should be the end of it and if and if we're not in the majority we understand that we live it on the a rci level all the time we make cases we present our case we present what we think is the facts if it's voted down. That's it we move on. This bill is not even getting that opportunity money and power pushing it through on something. That's tied to covid relief when americans are needing the most. Nobody's gonna willfully and certainly vote no against something. And that's what is happening with this bill. Most likely i. Where are we going from here by leroy. Gasman you can read that op ed. You can read the steve asmussen pieces well on the national. Hp a website that's national e. h. b. a. dot com Eric man appreciate the visit. Appreciate spelling those things out and Happy holidays merry christmas to you and the family in. We'll look forward to catching up against soon. My friend thank you mike. Happy holidays to you michelle and all your listeners and you know i didn't want to quickly say i enjoy listening to tim. I actually still have that video on. My phone of americans say phero coming down the lane and his description of the roar at belmont Even listen to it every once in a while just to give them a pick me up. There was something special. So i'm glad you mentioned that. Yeah special moment. indeed. Eric appreciate it but take care hockey. Certain all right when i come back. It's our monthly visit with the folks at four roses. Bourbon you'll hear from master distiller brent elliott and then a special christmas tree for everybody getting ready for santa's visit in just a few days. This is the form on h. r. n. edina spring stallion. Move on macho man. 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The segment includes our monthly visit with the folks at four roses. Bourbon lawrenceburg kentucky. Brent elliott is the master distiller of the year for two thousand nineteen. And this morning you get to know. Brent elliott since eighteen eighty eight four. Roses has been made with the same passion and handcrafted as only they can end this interview. Much like the iconic. Bourbon handcrafted by four roses. Today i have the privilege of visiting once again with brent elliott to is the master distiller and quality director with four roses. What do you remember about that day in. Two thousand five when you first walked through the doors here at for roses. That's actually pretty funny. Because when i started the week i started was the week of bourbon festival. And i don't know if you've ever been involved in that but it's basically like the whole industry we're still producing the background but everyone can stop. They're doing in terms. It's like the The week where everybody comes to kentucky just to to learn to celebrate bourbon so ruin a lot of work gets done. It's all about showcasing. Two guests what we do so like here. We we host events on site were going to bardstown to participate in events is just a lot of celebration and in promotional type stuff. So that was that was. The week started while. Could you imagine at that time that you'd be sitting here thirteen years later which let's face it. That's really not that long of a time and sitting here is the master distiller of four roses. No yeah i had no idea. I almost didn't take this job. Actually it was. I was in tennessee. I just bought a house just gotten married and had a job had a job and we came up. We took a tour of woodford reserve. Words up here visit family. When weekend and i'd grown up kentucky. I went to school. Uk so this has always been home. But i've been living down there for about seven years. And i thought you know i bet. I bet. This industry needs chemists. At the something i could do. Which is my background. And actually that very weakened. I got home sunday night. Got online a found this job posted and went back and forth came up interviewed off the job and i couldn't decide whether to take it or not. This two thousand. Five this before the resurgence in the popularity of The only reason i was really interested in it was just because it was an industry. That being from kentucky was near and dear to my heart would it was interesting and just sounded like something. I could a job that i could enjoy on many levels. Not just a paycheck with some of that could really get passionate about. Were you a bourbon drinker. At that time yes you are. But i'd first time. I tried four. Roses was on my way. Or i came up for the interview the night before. And on the way you can only get in kentucky at the time. I bought a bottle on the way to the hotel. Four and try to that night the night before interview for the first time and that was probably as much a factor in my decision to take this job as anything just fell in love with the bourbon again this before the boom and bourbon. But i knew that there was a fantastic product and as a company that we do well. Because we're just now starting to come back to the united states and which we have but never imagined it would be like this and i certainly never imagined that i'd be the master distiller actually two thousand fifteen. When i took over so ten short years after that had no idea any took over for a gentleman by the name of jim rutledge. Who was the master. Distiller here for roses. Tell me about working with jim and learning from him. Yeah he's if you know anything about bourbon you know. Jim rutledge name an absolute on in industry. A probably more passion and dedication than anyone. I've met in the industry. It was just that was an honor to work with him for the ten years that i got to. I was probably the most important thing. I learned from him which i learned so much. It's hard to really pinpoint anything. But without getting technical and boring for the most important thing i learned was just how he kind of what i touched on earlier with. You're dealing with consumers and people are curious about the bourbon industry and he would take all the time the world to answer you know group to people he bumped into them. You know on the grounds maybe two guests walking around. It could spend hours just answering their questions. And i think it's part of the same thing. He had that passion that love still bound for the for the brand for the industry. And i can just see how important that was to guests from the outside looking sink him interact with with the consumer so it was just something to behold netease. I've always remembered that and always will give favorite flavor. I get asked that a lot. And you know. At times. I might think i do. And then it'll change the following week so it's hard to say it's i can't even tell you which of the are three center. Products is my favorite it. It's almost it could change by season by time of day. It it because they're all different. It's just different flavor for different occasions when you think about all the things. You've accomplished here in thirteen years you've been here in in working as the master distiller since two thousand fifteen. What are you most proud of him right now. Probably just because we're growing so quickly we're expanding your in the middle of our capacity. Just added a new bottling facility. We've just about anything. You look at anywhere in. Our process has changed dramatically in the last not just three years but last twelve years and probably the biggest challenge for me this entire time. They've been here in particular. My in my role of director of quality is maintained consistency. Making sure that what's coming out of the still or out of the barrel or big put into the bottle that it is always consistent and it has that same characteristic that has has gotten us to where we are. Today that has put four roses on the map. I think that's an. I kind of feel like stewart of that. That legacy maybe some people. I say you know what he you do. How do you wanna make your mark. I don't even consider that you know. Maybe someday i'm sure that you know. I want to experiment just as anyone would other people around here feel the same way you will branch out. Try something different some point but right now. I think what's most important what i'm most proud of is maintaining the brand that so many others have worked to build up to get us to where we are now. Well as you said earlier if you know bourbon you know the name. Jim rutledge and i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that someday when people talk about bourbon they're gonna know the name. Brent elliott is well so brent. I really appreciate it all of our listeners. Across the nation now no brent elliott and appreciate you spending a little time getting to know you here today. Thank you all right and again. The master destroy stiller of the year in two thousand nineteen. And you can Enjoy for roses bourbon. You can get just about anywhere. It's fantastic stuff and my thanks to brenton the folks at four roses for that visit every single month. Getting another break. When i come back a special christmas tree for everybody and We'll wrap up this show the results from the poll question as well. That's next on the equine forum on the horse racing radio network your home. For racing's biggest events stretch with spungen around one dot catch coming to the bold stunned around drifted out with leave shiver on the inside a second home on the beaches made his way up into third but spun. Fees spun to by three of the lakes. Gains way stallion spun to run in the great one. Breeders cup dirt mile. 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Matt Bernier Show - Preview Edition - Eclipse Award 2018

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Matt Bernier Show - Preview Edition - Eclipse Award 2018

"Were. What's happening? Welcome in the Matt Bernier Show, TV live dot dot com. Life dot com. The daily racing form Twitter handle at DR inside post as well as the daily racing forms Facebook page by him Matt birney you can follow me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. This is the preview addition the first one of twenty nineteen usually this preview dishes, usually look ahead. Take a look at a race using formulator and replays, maybe look at some sporting events coming up from a betting standpoint number of different things this one little bit different. Because in a way, it's almost a review because I'm going to go over my clips award ballot. That I submitted just a few days ago, we turned here into twenty nineteen. I'm only going over the horse awards. I'm not going to go over the human connections. If you have questions or you'd like to know more about that again on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. Currently, my avatar is peanuts. Because I'm paying the second half of my wager with Pierre Thomas foreign town Jonathan Kinchen from the Breeders Cup. So those will be up there. For a little while. But if you see it, and you get confused, that's me. I'm the one with the peanuts for the emoji are the avatar excuse me following that. I'll come up with the NFL wildcard super factor. Those of you that normally follow along with the preview, you know, that the NFL season we go out with the NFL trifecta disappointing finish to the season when Owen three in that last week. I think was the only week that got shut out and ultimately hurt the win percentage a little bit. But we were still in the positive. We were still in the black for the entirety of the year. Hopefully, we can get this thing back on track here with the NFL coming up here. Again, you got four games on wild card weekend. So we'll go over those at the end of those listen to this podcast like most of you, do YouTube soundcloud, I tunes video dot Dera dot com as well as Spotify. If you're over on YouTube, click subscribe button, you'll get all the latest the DR of TV has to offer as long as you have that little bell icon lit up. If you have a line through you're not gonna get any of the videos. Make sure that you've got the line taken care of that's gone. The bell it self is there because then you'll get everything we've got. Over on TV. If you listen apple podcast tunes. However, you listen to your podcast, right? As a review give us a positive rating. It's always greatly appreciated. You know, what I say give us a positive rating. If you thought something sucked give it a negative rating me the positive feedback needed need or not positive action. Say that need the crew the sort of constructive criticism where if there's something that you'd like changed in at the end of the day, this is trying to produce content that the viewer in the listener enjoys so if there's something that you'd like change, the different ideas, you like some other pieces here, and there again, you gotta beneath the video player on YouTube or on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. Like, I said, we'll dive into the eclipse award. Ballot kick this off. I'm only going over the horse's. Some of them are going to have replace some of them won't have replays. Some of them. I think deserve to be spoken about a little bit more. So in depth than others some divisions were lock stock and barrel than there was really anything to it. Others supposed to go. Different ways. We'll kick things off. We'll go right nor the two year old males. And we'll probably break this up into a sort of six and five over the two year olds the three year olds and older horses. Then will sort of split it up and go with the sprint horses. The turf runners that horse of the year to button things up two year old male to me, I think it's kind of a no brainer. I'd be surprised if anyone went against game winner just based on what he did. He's undefeated. He's gone out there. He's one everywhere. He's raced. He was an impressive winner of the Breeders Cup juvenile. And I understand maybe he's not the most talented in the Baffert barn. Perhaps. That's improbable another horse that I would imagine a finalist for two year old male perhaps Coliseum. We were going to see on Saturday coming up in the sham out at Santa Anita perhaps someone else who knows. But based on what he's done. I just I didn't really think improbable had a great argument against him didn't run in the Breeders Cup a little bit of a later bloomer. I know he ran on the British undercard. But just to me game winner did overall. I think he deserves to win to your mail. Ultimately, that's where I went. Two year old female, I could see this being one of the divisions that I might catch a little bit of heat on. And again, if you agree, disagree, whatever your thoughts are at Bernier underscore, Matt or beneath the video player on YouTube jaywalk is a very deserving winner of the two year old filial ward. An emphatic winner of the Breeder's Cup juvenile fillies going to turn for the first time an emphatic win or the grade one for a one turn mile Belmont Park. I can understand anyone that says that just plain and simple. She was the best. But I for me I have to go back a few years. And I believe it was the first year that I worked for the daily racing form. And it was the first year. I had a vote for the eclipse awards and got down a horse of the year. And I had a really difficult time going between two horses, California, chrome and shared belief. Those of you that have been following me for basically since the TV show know-how fund. I am of shared belief and always was and I think he was one of the best horses. I've seen as I've paid attention to the game certainly not as long as some other folks have but at the end of the day from a credential standpoint for that year for horse of the year. I thought it was a scenario where California chrome he had more accomplishments. But I didn't think he was the better horse because when they matched up head to head shared belief, simply better, he just. Much much better than California chrome. Ultimately, I voted for California chrome and immediately after I submitted the ballot. I was sort of regretting it. I I was disappointed that I went that route because all along in my heart hearts, I thought shared belief was the better horse. And I understand that you can't always use that. But I think maybe this year in the horse of the year argument. We'll talk about that at the back half a little bit of that can come up with some people and understandably so with this division. What what I saw from newspaper of record plus the accomplishments. I just I felt compelled to vote for her as oppose to jaywalk and it's not a knock whatsoever. It's not meant to be disrespect to jaywalk at all. I think she is a class Philly that who knows she can go on. She can win the Kentucky oaks she can win the distaff next year. She go in breeders cups for years to come. She might. I've no I it's not a question about her talent. I just looked at this and thought I would I saw from newspaper of record in three lifetime starts. She's never won by less than six lengths in any. One of three lifetime starts in her crowning achievement. To date was beneath the twin spires down Churchill Downs in the Breeder's Cup juvenile fillies turf. Here's the stretcher on lyrics on the call. Rod Ortiz junior has not even moved them until they're into the stretch with newspaper of record outset down. And she it's PLO what power once again, what furlong Togo and that it's done a region. The inside followed by concrete rose. They're coming down to the sixteenth pole and its newspaper of record stop up recipes. This is one fabulous fabulous Philly. Oh, she wanted by seven lakes is east gut. Second late. I just thought that was just visually spectacular. And I have a hard time. This is a very difficult one for me to decipher and I think jaywalks going to win. And I think it's going to be a relatively comfortable victory from being honest. But there's a part of me that thinks the newspaper record could potentially be a special kind of horse. And I just I wouldn't have been comfortable with myself had I had the sort of horse of the year vote from years ago, come back in rear its ugly head here for me internally saying if I think newspaper record is a more talented horse and the compliments are right there. I kind of feel like I have to go with her over Jay walk again. No disrespect to the folks connected with Jay walk. I think she's going to probably win and she's deserving winter. I personally think newspaper record is the two year old villi champion three-year-old nails this one if it's not unanimous. Then I don't know what we're doing here, and what the award voters are looking at looked as triple crown winner. And for the three year olds that is the end all be all for most folks in racing. Triple crown period is the end all be all justify should be an absolute slam dunk. He should be unanimous here for three year old champion. Let's go back and relive what many people would say is the crowning achievement. I would even say it's the crowning achievement of the entire year the individual accomplishment the crowning achievement justify winning the Belmont Stakes and winning the triple crown. Copy cut the corner. It's just. To bill. Grand scheme that Hooker to win them down a row store, but sixty to justify its they're justify from ski. He's just. Again, really not much more for me to go in with that division. I think it's a slam dunk there. And I also think the three year old Phillies are slam dunk. If Montemar girl is not the overwhelming. And I would I would I would even go as far as if she is not the unanimous three year old filly champion. I don't know what we're doing here. She wanted to Kentucky oaks you on the Breeders Cup distaff. She won the coaching club American oaks. She won the acorn. She when Ashland. She put together an incredible campaign in a year if this was another year, and maybe some of the credentials for some of the other major players were little bit weaker. There's a real arguments it'd be made that Manoa girl should be a horse of the year candidate I voted for her third you need to. So the way, and I probably should have started with this at the top for those that are unfamiliar as far as the eclipse awards are concerned the voters we put in three finalists one-two-three, you rank them Cordingley the champion the votes only go toward the first place votes. So you may have more. Third place votes than anyone else. You may have more second and third place votes. Anybody else that'll get you is a finalist, but it's not alternate. What goes toward your championship? Sort of voting votes are only for the first place votes. Far as year end awards are concerned the most votes for the top three that will get you in a finalist. I think Montenegro should be a finalist. I can't imagine there's any scenario whatsoever where she ends up being a horse dick invive for the championship. But in any of the year, I think she would be deserving horse of the year candidate this year. I think she should be a finalist. I don't think she has a real chance to win that award, but she should be unanimous three year old filly my opinion, older dirt mail, an older female older male to me was pretty cut and dry. I think exceleron based on what he did the overall body of work of disgusted a number of times. And we'll discuss it again as we go into the horse of the year argument between he and justify. I just think what he did. That was also unprecedented going through winning Sandinista handicap the Gold Cup at Santini into the Pacific classic. And then coming back and winning the Breeders Cup Classic, by the way. Throw in a little bit of a a great one in between there with the awesome again. That's an unprecedented campaign for an older horse. And he did so running fast times for the most part the last two races, admittedly, a little bit on slower side than I would have liked, but we know on his best. He was capable of giant giant performance. I just think he's crowning achievement. I it's going to be the Breeders Cup. Classic. John sadler. He gets his first one to me his best race bar. None was the Pacific classic where he just absolutely whistled through up a one fifteen Beyer speed figure made everybody else, look like pack mules, which not the case. They're all great one caliber runners to me lock stock barrel. Nothing to think about their accelerate older male. As far as the dirt runners are concerned, older female was a division that I- truth be told did not want to vote for anyone. I did. Because I kind of feel like it was an obligation in a situation like this. I just the way the Abel Tasman finished her year. I couldn't couldn't vote for her Elat didn't win a grade one. And she only ran twice. I went with unique Bella. And I know, you know, we we almost we forgot about unique bell because she's been gone for as long as she has. But she's three times a grade one winner, and I believe the dual grade one winner in a great to winter, and she just missed out in that race the apple blossom down there. And Oaklawn that was after she threw a fit loading into the gate in again at the end of the day. I I may not have ever loved unique Bella, but just from a credential standpoint, and I know she beat Laforce in two of those races and not trying to be a jerk about the force. But I don't think the force is named should ever come up with clips award. I just that really is division to me. It's. I mean, I I don't know. There's a good answer there. I ended up going with unique Bella I can't be outraged with anyone that gets voted for. And they're just because I think they're all kind of black. She's who I landed on a division that I have zero opinion whatsoever. I just kind of went with what she had accomplished as far as the totality of her campaign. It was very brief which I don't like, and I usually dock horses for that. But at the same time. There weren't many longer campaigns in the longer campaigns. They completely fell apart at the end, so ultimately, older female, I chose to go with unique Bella. Go to sprint divisions. Male sprinter to me, this one's really again, kind of a no brainer. You look and see ROY h and accomplish I thought perhaps he had lost a little bit on the fastball. It stages throughout the year. He came back in basically better than ever fashion culminating with a repeat in the Breeder's Cup sprint and very likely a repeat as far as male sprinters concerned. Here is the Breeder's Cup. Sprint ROY h winning again at the top at a stretch right by promises. Fulfilled imperial hint pint to close on the outside then distinctive Whitmore's making progress here he comes leading horses. Roy h has got a big lethal at the sixteenth police foreign front, wet more closes the gap into second. As they come to the line. Roy h does it again won it by four legs under buckle Benz? Never looked like loser. Rounding the far turn turned Eddie Olczyk and disorder gonna win by fifteen didn't quit when by quite that many. But he never looked like he was gonna lose that race. An impressive job from this horse. And again, he just rock-solid if he shows up and runs his best more likely than not no one else can run with his best. And you just wonder he's a gelding in theory. You keep him sound to keep them happy and healthy this could continue on for a little way. So hopefully, everything stays good with him. I think he's well on his way to another eclipse award as far as the Phillies and mayors are concerned, this is another one it's kind of I don't have as big a problem voting for who. I did. Usually, this is me one of the weaker divisions. Last year, you look and see unique Bella ultimately ended up winning. I voted for her reluctantly, but I just could not vote for bar of gold who won the Breeders Cup. Filly sprint and I have such a hard time basing award off of one individual accomplishment. So with this instance, I thought in that Breeders Cup filly mayor sprint Marley's freedom. Ran the best race given the slow start in the wide trip. X y and z and I understand she comes back in the gopher one was a mile race. Technically, it wasn't a sprint. But you look and see when she had done throughout the rest of the two thousand eighteen campaign to me. I don't have any problem voting for Marley's freedom as champion female sprinter. I. I don't know that I would have a problem if a horse like shamrock rose wins because she won the Breeders Cup and she had won the raven run. Just a few weeks prior at Keeneland. But again that to me that's more so awarding one race. And I appreciate the folks that that look at it and say, you know, oil the Breeders Cup is our championship event. And x y and z and look it's hard to ignore winning Breeders Cup goes a long way. But I don't think the Breeders Cup should be the end all be all in for the folks that have complained about the Breeders Cup taking too much starch at the back half of the campaign. Well, that would be my sort of suggestion to them would be to look at it a little bit more and say if you feel that way don't reward horses that they're only you know, they run three times and they win the Breeders Cup. And all of a sudden, they're champion, whatever if you have a horse that runs second the Breeders Cup, but has six other grade one wins, maybe you should award them something. Just again, I'm throwing different things out there. But at the end of the day, would I be what I'd be appalled. If shamrock rose were to be champion, Phil mills female sprinter. No, not at all. I just think Marley's freedom the overall body of work, and including the fact that I think she ran arguably best race in the British affiliate. Mayor sprint. I like her as female sprint champion male turf runner, this division to me is very similar to what we discussed with the older dirt females. It just really it's kinda gross. Don't know that. There's anyone that is truly truly deserving of it. I thought long and hard about it. And I went through and looked at all of the names of the horses that are, you know, running the big grade one route races, whether it's the Arlington million. I love Robert, Bruce. I think from talent standpoint he is as good as it gets. But it's kind of hard for me to ignore. The fact that his last two races were certainly disappointing and very clearly is much better on one surface. Then another meaning on firm going. Posed to any ground with giving it I look at a horse. Like channel maker who I liked the Breeders Cup Turf. Didn't pick his feet up that day. But then you go through and you look at the overall body of work, and what he had accomplished a grade one winner. He finished second grade one. He finished third grade one he did those at distances ranging between a mile and a half and a flat mile people forget the finish third and that kill wrote earlier in the year at Santa Anita. But I go only one grade one look at glorious empire, and he's going to get some I don't wanna call recency bias with him. But the way that he went and won that race at Gulfstream on opening weekend. I think a lot of people looked at that. And they said immediately. That's he's the winner. Well, we forget that he was a complete no-show in the Breeders Cup Turf. Very similar to channel maker his big wins. Today were a dead heat with channel maker and a win over channel mater. So really if you like Lawry's empire, you kinda have to like a horse channel maker as well. I know there's some talk about some of these other horses. I automatically land on stormy liberal. And I don't know that there's ever been a time where turf sprinter really merited consideration for the male turf category. But I kinda feel like from just a consistency standpoint this horses rock-solid. He's won races at five five and a half six and a half different configurations different tracks different conditions of the turf tracks. And he was just consistent. And I think that to me really was the hallmark of this division. It was a lack of consistency. And really stormy liberal was the most consistent or force that we had all year. I have a hard time giving a horse like expert. I the award when you ran here. One time I need more than that. Sure. Maybe your overall body of work overseas. And you you sort of combine that with what you did here in the Breeders Cup. I get all that. I just have a hard time rewarding horse that runs here. One time with one of our award 's wouldn't it be crazy? If you just think about it, and this is going to be a little bit of a tip off. You know, I'll save I'll save it for the next division. Ultimately male turf. I'm going to little bit outside the box. I think he's gonna get some consideration. Though. I voted for stormy liberal as male turf champion female turf champion. This is the one where kind of tailing I have a hard time a warning. Our our year end award to a horse that's run here. One time anyone will look at it and say enable is probably the best horse. Let's call a Spade enabled probably the best horse at all these names that we're going to go over including exceleron including justify including ROY h from town standpoint, enable is probably the best horse, arguably a top two or three horse in the world. I have a very difficult time giving her in a ward when she ran here. Once on the flip side, you have a horse that she didn't win the Breeders Cup Turf. But she didn't win the Philly mayor, and you combine that with a number of grade one racist throughout the year, and that sister, Charlie and to me, she is the most deserving from start to finish of an eclipse awards for his females on Grasser concern. Here's her win in the twenty eight team Breeders Cup filly turf. From sister charleen on the outside hit to the final. For long raving beauty trying to hold off wild Chicoms sister. Charlie's there. And then it's magic wand a sixty two goal while dogs have raping duty sister, traveling on the outside the three of the coming down to the live. As sister, Charlie who run wild in the last strides to a Raving Loony. She beat good Phillies coming over from Europe. She wanted a number of different distances. I thought the Breeders Cup was going to be difficult for at a mile and three eighths thought she'd be better going shorter, she prevailed. Chad did a good job with her. And I understand again, enable from down standpoint is better than sister, Charlie in all likelihood, but but enable running here once I don't care that it was the the phenomenal feat of arc Breeders Cup double. She ran here. One time. And I just personally I have a very difficult time giving a horse that ran here once as opposed to a horse that ran here all year and one basically all of our big races far as fillies and mares Grasser concerned. I very. Difficult time giving the award to enable. I think sister Charlie's the most deserving and ultimately went with her, and that gets us to the horse of the your topic of address this few different times might own hasn't changed much. It's a two horse race. Again. I really believe if these two horses were a little bit lesser Manoa girl would have a very very serious case to be up in this area as well. Unfortunately for her and her connections, both justifying exceleron are there. Just rock-solid no matter how you chop it up. And again, I feel like so much of this voting needs. It comes down to consistency. And the two year olds they're they're campaigns are this long anyway. So there you're only going to get two or three months, maybe four months out of them for the entire year. But these other horses, I wanna see did you did you run consistently from start to finish? And there are going to be certain divisions. Where reluctantly I have to make a vote. I have to vote for a unique bell who ran for. This long in the entire campaign because the other horses that ran longer they didn't run. Well, so I'm not gonna just reward you just for mediocrity. I wanna reward horses that run longer campaigns throughout the year and sort of maintain that level of success justify he would be deserving horse of the year. I think he is probably going to be horses the year. I believe the stat is that there has never been a triple crown winner that was not voted horses the year, and if he were to win I would not be outraged by it, and I go back to the folks that always said, oh, well, you're justify hater it has nothing to do with my like or dislike of the horse. It has more to do with the fact that we never saw him run after the first weekend June. And I know we had an injury, but he never faced older horses. He beat a pretty suspect group of horses as three year olds. And I'll admit early on. I thought the three. Year olds are going to be quite good. Guess what? That's the beauty of time going by. You're able to go back and look bad opinion. They're not very good. You combine all that? And you compare that to a horse like exceleron who from start to finish ran faster than justify started his campaign earlier ended it later faced better horses, and ultimately won the biggest race that there is in the United States. And I say that with all due respect to a race. Like the Kentucky Derby where most people think that that is our biggest race. That's fine. I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise all I would say is I have a difficult time. And it goes back to the age restriction a difficult time rewarding or saying that the biggest race that we have. Is a twenty four stampede. They'll never face them any horses. Again, a lot of chaos and it's against a bunch of teenagers running against each other. It's not the best of the best. And don't tell me that it is. Because that that is incorrect when was the last Kentucky Derby that that was the best of the best. I love to to hear the Breeders Cup. Classic is the culmination of year end you're gonna have horses from all over the world coming there for your biggest prize, and ultimately exceleron he handled it and he overcame call. It what you will know hate against John salaries just John Adler Breeders Cup. Number was terrible. John Sadler's numbers outside California. Not very good. He overcame all that. And he got the job done. I voted for horse of the year. Exceleron take a look here's his stretch run to me wasn't his best performance. But it was certainly the crowning achievement of the entire campaign. His wins twenty eight team Breeders Cup Classic stretch. And it's at southern and on the end side, mental punter. No. Those two. Arrive pulled that Yoshida Axelrod gonna. Business accelerator keeps coming to the sixty four in front, thunder stolen. The sun is next. Then metal said gonna VERA head on side. They're cutting to the liner accelerate. Stop raiders plastic for John Sadler, sir. You have it. I feel like I'm open to discussion. I'm open to hearing critiques or agreements or whatever it may be again on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt or beneath the video player on YouTube. Those are my horse awards again, if you have any sort of thoughts or you wanna know about human connections. I can tell you those on the side of not going to go over those just because this podcast self is already going to be a little bit. As far as timing is concerned. So we're going to button this up that's a wrap their let's quickly transition into the NFL wildcard weekend super factor card weekend is upon us for the NFL two games on Saturday two games on Sunday. The winners will move on to the divisional weekend next weekend. As has been the case throughout the year. You know, normally I throw out the trifecta from a week to week standpoint. But guess what? Now that we have four games this weekend. You have the wildcard super factor. Take them right in order. The Indianapolis Colts there at the Houston. Texans. Texans or laying a point at home to me this game kind of boils down to is the Houston defense going to be able to neutralize Andrew lucked because if luck is able to go out there and move the ball. He's gonna do it to a degree. Don't get me wrong. I I'd be stunned if Houston shut down, but if he's able to go out there and move the ball at a reasonable rate. I still think Houston's going to be able to put points up on Indianapolis defense. So in that respect to me, I kind of feel like it boils down to luck for an I know that's a captain obvious thing to say. But if luck goes out there and torches Houston, which hasn't really been the case with Houston defense have been quite solid all year if he's able to go out there and put up some points. Then all the sudden, I think you got to be a little bit concerned. But do think Houston will be able to move the ball in Indianapolis at the end of the day is long as they can keep Lockton company to adore. You like Marla MAC thing. He's out of the backfield. Keep them to a dull roar. I think Houston wins this game. And I think ultimately they end up making a trip up my neck of the woods next weekend. They play in Foxborough. I like Houston at home, minus one. He Seattle Seahawks at the Dallas Cowboys the Cowboys are laying point and a half to me. I'm in a situation like this. And again, you got to keep in mind. From a football standpoint home field is generally regarded is about three point difference. If you look at it from that standpoint, the kind of view scenario where the end of the day the Seahawks are on the road. So they're going to catch a few points extra for that. I, you know, I think Seattle's better team plain and simple and that sort of reflected in the number being one and a half. I don't know that it's enough where you know, one and a half you're basically just calling who's gonna win the game. I think Seattle's better team Dallas still totally convinced with I know Prescott look good. And I know they had to actually put the throttle down to win that gaming the giants last weekend, which kind of a silly thing that they needed to do that. Because there was I could be wrong. I don't think there was any implication win or lose end up being in the that they were all along. I just I'm not totally convinced with Dallas. I haven't been all year. I've said a number of times. I don't think the NFC east is spectacular. There is one team. That's playing this weekend. We'll touch on them terribly that they're just red hot at this point. I just think Seattle's a better team. And I suppose if you're just going to give me points take him give me the Seahawks, plus one and a half on the road. I'd take them outright in Dallas to get the job done. LA chargers at the Baltimore Ravens. The ravens are lay in two and a half points. You saw I don't know if you want to call it a preview, but you saw this game. Just what a we can have go two weeks ago on that. What was it Thursday night Thursday night game? It was out in L A, which basically was home game for the ravens because LA doesn't have any fans and it was a gross game. It was kind of that slow building kind of thing that if you like defense. Like, I do I missed defense. I like these games ended up being a little bit more on the gross. I probably the patriots played in a lot of them lately. I just think it's an interesting dynamic where the chargers going in the Baltimore it's going to be interesting to see if they can get the ball rolling because they certainly had a major issue as far as the offense was concerned. And I know Keenan Allen was out or he was very dinged up at that point. It just still was one of those instances where I wasn't impressive. I saw with them against Baltimore. Now. Look Baltimore very easily could have lost last week against Cleveland, but Cleveland red hot at this point in there. They look quite nice moving forward into twenty nineteen the ravens lay in two and a half. They win this game by field goal. I didn't get the job done. So I'm gonna take Baltimore at home, minus two and a half. And the last game is the eagles plus six on the road at the bears. This is another one to me that's very similar to the colts Texans game where if. If the bears shutdown foles, I think they win plain and simple. I can't believe we're even talking about Nick foles in another sort of miracle run because I don't I don't know that the eagles are great, but they are very very hot right now. And I gotta look at it and say they it seems like in the past two years when the two quarterbacks have been playing separately. I mean looks like they have played better under falls than they have under wins. If the bears shut fulls down it's over. I think Chicago will win pretty comfortably. If Philly can keep the ball moving a little bit. I'm not saying they're gonna go out there and throw it twenty eight or thirty points. But if they can go out there and score twenty. Can Mitchell Trubisky comeback in score that many or outscore them because the eagles defense? I think is a little bit better than people have given it credit for. Statistically hasn't been great this year. But last year you saw what they were capable of. I still think they're pretty damn good. If if the offense the eagles can go out there and score some points. I think all the sudden if you put some pressure on Trubisky to have to score I don't know that he's ready to do that. I'm not gonna make pick as far as who's winning this game. Because I think it's gonna be pretty close. But I am gonna take the eagles plus six on the road. Just simply because I could see this thing going one way or the other I listened to Bill Simmons earlier in the week. And I know he cousin Sal, they talked about how if there is going to be a blow out this would be the game. And it would be the bears. Just I'm not totally convinced. Even if they do shut the eagles down offensively not totally convinced that this thing's going to blow out give me the eagles on the road plus six at the Chicago Bears. I don't know who's gonna win that game. But gimme the eagles catching points so quickly. Recapping colts at Texans. Texans minus one Seahawks at cowboy Seahawks, plus one and a half chargers. At ravens ravens, minus two and a half. Eagles at bears eagles plus six there you have it. My picks NFL wild card weekend the super factor if you've been listening life, thank you for doing so lives out there dot com live dot com. The daily racing form Twitter handle at. Inside post or the daily racing forms Facebook page, if you are over on podcast form like most of you listening like most of you do if you're over. If you listen to this podcast for most of you YouTube sound, cloud tunes video dot the dot com. Well, Spotify if you're over on any of the podcast platforms. Register review give us a positive rating if you're over and please subscribe as well if you're over on YouTube, click subscribe button, give us a thumbs up. Make sure the bell icon is lit up, and there's not a line through it. Because that way, you can get everything we've got questions comments concerns. You agree disagree with the horses that I voted for as far as the eclipse awards are concerned the need the video player on YouTube or as always you can fire away on Twitter at Bernier underscore. That's gonna do it for this week's preview edition. We are going to come back with we're gonna fall this up right now as we always do with out of the gate, but I'll be back on Tuesday. The recap addition. We'll take a look at some of these big racist from this weekend. Most notably the sham out at Santa Anita. We'll find out if Baffert has another giant in his barn named Coliseum. We'll see if he can get the job done first time winners. First time going to turns. Without further ado, let's roll it into added the gate best of luck this weekend. However, you play whatever you play wherever you play. It's been the map near show.

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Out of the Gate - Episode 137 - La Canada Stakes Edition

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28:40 min | 1 year ago

Out of the Gate - Episode 137 - La Canada Stakes Edition

"Yeah I welcome to out of the gate. Daily racing forms weekend handicapping preview program. I'm your host stand elman. Thanks thanks so much for watching. Here's what's coming up this week's edition of out of the gate. Daily racing form handicappers Mike Bureaucratic cow. Ski and. I will take a look at three major graded stakes races from across the country. The Lock Canada is your diaw Saturday race of the day. It is at Santa Anita to graded stakes races on turf at Gulfstream. The Marshall Is River and tropical turf. If you'll have Nicole Russo's repick segment David Arizona's time for US spotlight plus best bet sources to watch and lots lots more. So let's break out of the gate eight. We begin out of the gate with our horse. Watch segment criminal. Kaczynski's been following this source for a while. Let's see who it is. My a Horse Watch for this week is going to be sold Allante. He's a three year old gelding run three times now. He just ran this past Saturday in the Muccio Macho man stakes as ten ten free at Gulfstream Park. He ran a good third in that race and what was not only is I try on dirt. It was also him cutting back to one turn for the first time time he had begun his career with a nice maiden win at Gulfstream Park West coming from well back in the pack it just seven and a half furlongs to get up and win easily with take time for speed figure of ninety. The next time out he went right back to the turf he moved into a minor stakes race. Gulfstream Park this time at one mile. which was it's too turns? And once again he was well back early made that Nice move now both times. He got hot pieces to run into but he looked really professional winning he was able to weave his way through traffic. So the move to dirt in the Muto Macho Man. We had a lot of question marks for him but I thought he handled it well. I was a race where he didn't didn't get a whole lot of peace. There were no red fractions and time form. US And he wasn't able to real in the top two but I still like the way made a nice move around on that turn. The piece was really pretty moderate that day so he didn't you know it just wasn't a great setup for him. I think he's going to do much better next time out. He's a horse with a promising nothing future and he showed it he can run on both dirt turf and dirt so once again. We're swatch is going to be so volante. Go to Ecuador my horse. Watch dan the final final day of two thousand nine hundred and a colt named Porto's trained by Todd pletcher. Let's throw up the replay right now. This is his fourth career. Start every one of his races so far around to turns this worst wants distance. He's improved from race to race. And here's the maiden when finally starting off I know it's a wet track and there's probably not that much behind him in here but he's just GonNa win off from this. Westfield with a very solid eighty four buyer. He's got a nice pedigrees tap it his dam was a stakes winner. She's a sister to grade one winner. Powerbroker this war seems like he wants to go all day long long. I suspect he's on the Derby trial for pleasure now. That's the way we like to see lecture. Two Year olds when racist. kind of takes us back to the day very impressive performance by porthos. My worst to watch laurel is a horse named rookie. Salsa he was a stakes winner earlier this year or early in nineteen at Churchill downs dropping into a twenty five thousand dollars claimer last time trying to get some confidence for trainer. Jury O'Dwyer take into the inside on the backstretch into the turn that we turn into the stretch and this one's just got got nowhere to go. He's in behind horses. The three horses in front of them are just tiring. The horse in the lead is going going gone. He still hasn't gotten out to the clear and now rookie. Salsa is is in Likud. He's GonNa come with a good run and he'll finish third. He was claimed out of this race by Claudio. Gonzalez was currently on a ten for sixteen tear at Laurel with with newly claimed runners. Rookie sausages seems like the kind of horse. That's going to fit back in a twenty five thousand dollar claiming level. And if he wins he can go on a roll and start optional. Optional claiming race. This keep an eye out for rookie salsa at Laurel. He's a newly turned three-year-old. Let's get to some handicapping the lot Yata stakes is your Saturday race of the day. Let's look the field for Saturday's D. R. F. Race of the day the grade three two hundred thousand dollar lock on on Yonder stakes phillies and mayor's going a mile and a sixteenth on the main track at Santa Anita. You can download free formulator past performances for this race on the race of the day event. PAGE DOT COM expanded stakes previews diaw spread free. Covers the lockdown Yada in great detail at video dot dot com or or the daily racing form Youtube Channel Seven Spice Perfection looks like the Horse to beat the sources shown a lot of ability in top class races. Good enough to stretch out a a bit. Though in that makes Hausky a little dubious about backing the favourite. He has an alternative. Can Yada stakes is an interesting race for older fillies and the mayor's trying to go on a mile and a sixteenth at CNN. Need on Saturday and the first place. I looked at time formula piece projector and it does show that a favors tauruses owner near the early lead. But it's pretty interesting race. I think in it also shows a three horses Bunched up right on the front and this kind of indicates to me. It's really a fuzzy situation. The horses in there having shown a whole lot of speed one of them who's actually shown on our preview pages on eater message. Looks like she's probably in a bid overhead and it's not like she's going to get a clear easy lead see you know based on the others in here. They they've shown similarly speed Spice Vice Perfection. Who I would assume is going to be the morning line favorite? When that comes out is a horse who just wanted Akwa doctor in a stakes race but she did so just setting a glacial glacial pace on ramp Sunday? I mean it was so slow that the race had to be broken out by myself as a speed figure maker also on the buyer numbers so it was really a tricky array. So basically what I'm saying is I don't love any of the horses who are projected to be up owner. Nia that early lead in this race I think they all have some questions queen. NBD You who we show is a tracker. She's another one that show up there. She's not even really a front runner rarely lately. Has she been anywhere near the front. Just done her best racing from off the the pay she wanted to last time out pretty easily at low sow but because of that. I'm going ahead in a different direction. And I'm going to go with the number one. derr Lou Bob Baffert trained filly. She just four years old. And there's a few things I like about her. I liked catchy. One earliest recess. She did it with just one. Oh four time formula speed figure But I think she's got more in tank she's obviously younger. She is going to need to improve on that number. Some of the others in the run faster but I was a little concerned when I I looked at the race about the layoff that she's had she's been off since that win. But when I checked a workout tab. She's been working steadily ever since so. Obviously Bob Bob Baffert just didn't find the right spot for maybe was pointing the spot along. But there haven't been any issues with this horse He's Red Hot Baffert is is that Santa Anita. I think he won a couple of big steak Sarah last weekend so for me. I'm looking for an improve race from blue. Maybe a little bit of an aggressive ride from net inside post is position in a race without much speed and I think she is going to run really well in here. I'm with crew trying to spice perspective. Here she tries to stretch out at a short prize. Is I'm GonNa take the six harassed and this. This is affiliate who improved immediately. When they decided to structure out and distance? Last year's three year old she won four races in a row as as soon as they got out of sprint races with her including this race here and the grade three monmouth Oaks at monmouth. Park up the inside in this race and out finish Jaywalk at the end of the day here with a ninety four Beyer speed figure. This is a very good performances. She came out of this race to I think finish a pretty good third in the grade one Castilian and then under first star for Richard Voltage. They tried to sprint her again. I don't really think she wants to go short distances. I think she wants to go longer distances. And I like the ball gets her back to southern California here and structures. These are back out now. She's an excellent fit in this spot and he's hard trier to be sure. I wonder if I'm getting suckered into the three queen. Bee to US seeking her third consecutive victory. Therese you one last time out at Los Alamos arguably her favorite tracks. She won the Grade Three by at Coa she was wide. And that's where you want to be most of the time at Los Alameda. She's swept by this field to win and very comfortable fashion with an eighty six. Beyer speed figure. She has shown the ability to stay closer to the pace in the past. I like the fact that she has tactical speed that she is adaptable that she is comfortable. At this distance. She is going to have to take another step forward if she's going to beat the likes of Spice Perfection at Harare but I think Queen. BDU with three to one or seven to two in the form. She's in right now at least deserves an opportunity to take them down. In the lock on Yada stakes Nicole Russo always has great pedigree incites. Let's go to her pedigree pick segment right now. Hi Everyone Nicole Russo coming to you for out of the gate. Saturday's Gulfstream Park Card futures four strong maiden special weights for three-year-olds olds is zeroed in on this third race. We're going a mile which is a tall order for a first time starter but there are a couple in here with Stamina Stamina Laden pedigrees to make it work. Starting with eminent domain. He shows a solid series of four and five Furlong Works for Bill Ma and probably has stamina foundation in him for his debut. Of course he caught my eye is he's by triple crown winner Americans thorough. Last year's. Here's leading freshman sire. He had a good deal of steak. Success on turf but certainly has the ability to sire a dirt runner the surface on which he needed all of his best work. I think especially those progeny will be going around two turns as he starts to get more opportunities in that arena. Now I'm gonNA added domain who you'll watch breezing at the O.. B. S. April sale where he fetched a half million dollars is out of a dirt router in dundalk dust to one the great to in falls city. Her first two runners are both route winners with Kangaroo Valley winning a mile and a half and a winner of Flynn three eight now another first time starter. Who caught my eye on this raid awesome By curling out of a medallion Doro To Classic Classic Upfront at his definite dirt route ability however both sired graded performers route on turf and a lot of turf. Her route ability in the female lane misses the extended winner of the extended family. I'm sorry arc winner and Brilliant Bruton urban see we who produced Galileo see the stars and more as what was European classic winner King's best. I think awesome party definitely wants to go out out and could do so an either or turf so look for him to turn in a nice run potentially on Saturday but also keep this horse's name in mind down the road as yes I think he has some Some potential there. Meanwhile we'll be looking a high stakes action on this Saturday Gulfstream card after this break out of the gate. Eight stole from racing blew a breakthrough in sports nutrition for horses. Welcome back to out of the gate. Let's throw up the field for the CO feature at Gulfstream Park on Saturday. It's the grade. Three one hundred fifty thousand dollar Marsha as river stakes mile and a sixteenth on the turf for fillies and mayors for expanded stakes previews of this in many of the other major stakes races all weekend long plus lots lots more head on over to video dot dot com or the daily racing form Youtube Channel. Oh third choice on the morning line Mike is the number seven. Munchkin money and New York Brady showed a lot of heart and determination winning first time for Christoph Clermont last time out really the only only closer in a race that featured speed speed speed and a good one in Mitchell road yeah maybe she was compromised last headmaster robots two to five and wired that fields. I did think Munchkin money finished pretty pretty gaily for third we have the replay that we can throw up there. She's GonNa come to the outside. Here's you're gonNA make ground all the way now. There's never a real point and the stretch here Dan. We're feels like she's going to win this this race but I'll give her a little extra credit for staying on gaming to the end. This was a nice performance for her. My main issue with her is this is kind of her best race eighty-six by or maybe she can get up to through an eighty nine. She's facing mares in this thick and regularly top ninety ninety one. She's going to have to run a little bit faster and she's going to need some help up front. Let's see you credible kaos-gl calc- likes in the Marshall is river. The MARSHA was river for me pretty much comes down to a two horse race it's a rematch from the forever forever together stakes six running back with duct between Dina. They'll sir and sweet by him by I in the sweet bye bye was the favourite but was run down and actually dropped back to finish. Finish third when Indiana. They'll serve in got up for the win. I think this is a case where the tables are turned in here. That wasn't a raceway at peace figures for it was is run over that new AC with duct outer turf course and there just wasn't enough data to make pace figures but the race flow kind of indicated that the rates really set up for horses coming from off the pace Sweet by and by that day as you'll see in the replay was pretty much wide the whole way around the track meet a premature move. My guess that would be the piece was on the hot side if anything just looking at where the horses finished that. We're up on the lead. She made that premature move. Made to Lee couldn't hold off the closers including clued Indiana del Sur and Theodore be. WHO's not in here Theodore be but I was really impressed with the race that day. I think she her speed figures. Here's our solid and here. They match up with Indiana. They'll surrey was as a matter of trip so my pick in this race is going to be sweet by and by five. We're GONNA play horizontal or or I should yeah horizontal wagers. I would include Indiana. They'll circus that wouldn't surprise me if she wins but given the results last time I think sweet by and buys offer a little bit more more value here. I'm going to cry on this one. I I like sweet by and by in this race more than anything else. It's just a situation where I feel like. She's a much better horse when they get her involved early on. I would just love to see Louis. I get very aggressive with this philly in this race and just put right up there either on or on the leader right up there on the pace on the outside. I'm putting some pressure onto. I don't want him reading this rated on our last two and I just don't think those are her best races I to respect sweet by and by speed but I also think the number two piece by a piece is going to show a little early ability in this spot maybe piece by piece can keep sweet by and by occupied enough to set things up for Andina del Sur. who took care air sweet by and by last time out? We saw that quick bursts of speed on the turn for her to take the lead and hold sway in the forever together. I think a similar trip is coming. I think she you can sit third or fourth and make a bold move turning into the stretch career form right now dean. Dull stir for trainer Tommy albertrani. She's my top pick in the marshes river. Let's say at Gulfstream with stay on the turf that stay or the tropical turf field for Saturday's tenth race at Gulfstream in Park. It's the grade three one hundred thousand dollar tropical turf stakes. We're going to mile on the weeds. The horse to beat is your morning line favorite Mike. That's the number eight a thread of blue. The sources already won a seven figure race in his career going gate to wire in the Saratoga Derby now now that's a key statement gate to wire because there's a lot of speed in this race and a threat of blues going to have to deal with those other speeds. I wonder if you can get the trip that he really wants in this race as it makes his four year old debut. You're off a little bit of a layoff. I mean he's obviously a talented horse. He's won some nice races. It's worth noting that he is graded stakes winner. At Gulfstream. Without deleting did win the Palm Beach last year from a stalking position. Maybe you can do it again. Dan you know we'll see what happens. The kind horse so I feel like in this situation on shore price. I might be willing to try to be criminal counts. Ski Agrees With You. Oh he feels there will be a big upfront. He's going with the closer. The great three tropical turf stakes drew a solid field at ten and the first thing that caught my was time time form. US pays for director predicted. It's going to be a fast pace That's not something that always guides every wager I make but it certainly something. I'd take a look at the if I agree with and the first thing that jumped out with me is that she was in here. The number four horse and one thing I've learned over the years are over there at least this past summer for sure and watching Gi to run for a while now is when he's in a row traits. It's almost a guarantee that the pace is going to be fast. We take a quick look at his past performances. He generally early makes the lead in those races. He didn't the one time two races back. But I I think it was Voodoo Song and another horse. We're in their voodoo songs. Basically the same thing as this Gu when it comes to pay him being entered almost ensures a fast pace and when both of them are for sure will be but in this case. There's any any other speeding here to force deduce hand. I'm not sure he could raid even if there wasn't so I'm really solid thinking that agreeing with the pace for decker that there will be a fast pace and looking at that the worst grabbed it gravitated towards was exalting. He's being ridden by top rated writer Rod Ortiz. He should fit perfect. Fit this horse like a glove in this situation and we're really caught my eye with this source a couple of things first. The speed figures are really solid for this field. I wouldn't say either particularly grade three level but I don't think this is the strongest greed. Three field you're going to see if you take a look at the time for. US class ratings. On the left side. Which I've circled? They're they're all in the twenties. And this reese actually gets a pre race race rating from us have only won seventeen so even though it looks like a step up in class from two of his three races he different agreed to last time. It's actually a pretty big dropping class so I'm willing to forgive that live race last time out. I thought Audie ramp pretty well. He he closed nice he just was against some better horses and Stover Guard an admission office. who were able to finish in front of them? But he was only two lengths behind mind. I think the pace setups really going to suit them. As I said and the clash drop and I think he is definitely the Horse to beaten tropical turf. I'M GONNA try the number two Murad in this race for maybe just off to pay. I liked it. The sources of adaptable as far as his tactical abilities go let's put up a replay of his most recent going back to September first here so it's a little bit of a layoff for him. This is the red bank. They put him up close to the pace in here. You see him get to a short lead right but he never has enough to to hold off to visit Darrow and despite he's going to settle for third all in all I thought he ran fine. But he's GonNa have to do a little better than that. I just liked the fact that there's a lot of pace case in this race and he's a horse who's shown that if they go fast in front of him he will sit and make a run from off the pace and I'm just hoping that Pokka Lopez that kind of a trip for him in this spot. I'M GONNA go with Craig Reagan here. I like Exalt and he's winless on turf but he's proven his mettle at the mile winning the two hundred and fifty thousand dollar Oaklawn Mile. I start off the Michael Maker claim and in in that last race the Fort Lauderdale arguably better horses. He was sort of covering up. Most of the trip never really got a clear chance in the lane and he was finishing on at the end with a a fast paced. Cutting back to this mile distance. I think it also going to set a very nicely for exalting six to one in the morning line. I think he gets bet down. But I think he's fair at around four Wartawan or nine to to David Aragon of time for us for his spotlight segment. This week is going to focus in on the say Florida. Sandy stakes the the feature race at Ecuador's for this week's time formulas Pollen Glenn or take a look at the eighth race on Saturday at acqueduct it's the same Florida's sandy stakes at seven furlongs furlongs on the dirt for the New York breads and pretty competitive field drawn here. Seven runners think you can make a solid case for about five of them. Let's begin by taking a look at the past performances of the morning. Line favorite favorite. That's the number three my boy. Tate's he's coming off a win and in New York stallion series race last time in November He got a sloppy track right over that day. He's a horse. That definitely likes so at track. He's four four over wet surfaces. He's fight over dry dirt titties likely to get a dry surface on Saturday at acqueduct. He obviously loves the seven furlong distance and I think he makes a lot a lot of sense if he takes any kind of step forward off his last race. It's just he doesn't have the kind of speed figures that's just as any major over this field and it's going to take money off that last race. I I think we can find some better value in here. Another horse it's likely to attract plenty of support. Is the number seven the caretaker. Now he's a horse that only to one fourteen time formula speaker offers victory last time at acqueduct going the seven furlong distance. But it's worth noting. He got a one twenty two final time figure that that's the number that would equate to the Beyer speed figure. Just based on the final time his number was downgraded though for the time form USB figure of one fourteen because he was closing into a slow pace that day anytime you see a slow slow pace in a sprint race is little easier to achieve a find a faster final time. 'cause conserve energy in the early going on the caretaker was penalized for that though. It's worth noting that he did pass has horses that were more Benefited by that slow paced. Because they were up on it where see came for doubt a couple of lengths off the pace. He ran really well last time regardless of any discussion about the speed figures and I think if he continues on trajectory. He's going to be tough. Here for Rudy Rodriguez. Just there's not a ton of pace in this race and I wonder if he's going to get that same kind of trip against tougher field old The number five t lips fight another one that I would consider. He'll be a slightly better price in here and I like his effort a lot last time in the graves end going. The six furlong distance He he finished behind forensic fire. WHO'S A grade one winner as a two year old but he's been competitive ingred to in grade one stakes since then and he read really wealthy loves a fight? He's he's the kind of horse that is pretty scrappy always steps up to the occasion and last time out. I thought he actually could have gotten closer. At the end of Dylan Davis had ever been able to get him off the rail. Coming to the Eighth Pole you finally got him off about the sixteenth pole making up ground of the leaders late. He handled seven furlongs seven for long distance and he's got versatile running style or he doesn't have to come from that far back and if we're not moving too quickly upfront. Perhaps he can get a good tactical position speaking of the pace situation. Let's take a look at the time formulas pace projector for this race. And you see the number. Six Arthur's hope is predicted to be on the leading the situation favoring horses in that position I think that's important to note because when you go through this race there's just really not a whole lot of speed signed on Arthur's hope but if you look at his. PP's is a horse that does run is best races when he's four placed if he's on the lead or just stalking the pace off one other runner. That's okay for him but when he has to come from a a little farther off the pace or take some dirt his face. That's when he doesn't run so well so that that that is going to be on the lead in this race I think bodes really well for his chances. I know that it's recent performances. Don't look inspiring his coming off. A string of three straight fourth place finishes to since the layoff but his raise last time. Not that bad because Chateau just ran off on the lead that day he exhibit chasing position that I said he doesn't really like and then to back he was in that race behind my boy. Taleb's a fight that's a race where my NTL's apply both benefited from a pace. That just fell apart and Arthur's who was contesting pace so I think he was a little compromised by his trip that day. This time over a dry surface which he's fight over if he gets just think he's going to be really tough to run down and he's got that back speed figures of one twenty and one twenty-five that arguably making the fastest horse in this race can repeat them so I like Arthur's open the state Florida. Sandy deported to get somewhere in the five or six to one rate. I think we might just do that. Time for best bet segment here on out of the gate Craig. mcaliskey's got something in for you at aqueduct. Curious pace play if you will for my best bet this week. I'm going to head to act with duct and Saturday three SEC- for the sandy stakes And the Horse I wound up going with Arthur's. Hope he's been tabbed by my podcast partner. David arrogant at five to one on the morning line and I think he offers some real value. Are you for a couple of reasons first off our time for. US Pace projector. I left a small insert on the graphic year. Shows him on on what should be a pretty clear easy lead against INTAS group he. He's a horse who is run very well in the past when he gets a similar situation. But it doesn't necessarily have to have the lead. He's run good the greatest when he sits just off the lead so I don't think he has to have the lead if he gets a great but but either way I think is a good spot because a Lotta horses near. Don't don't have a lot of tactical speed like he does. I also think he has some pretty hidden form. Pretty decent hidden form in here is last two races since the layoff have been wondering first one came over sloppy track. He told through a pretty fast. Patience Ziadeh opening piece figure of one thirty five that day with pressure so he did lose to a couple. My boy tate t loves a fight were in their wound up finishing ahead of them. But I don't think the race dynamics will really with him that day and last asked I was. It was even more severe when you expect a little better ray second off the layoff Iran in the Chateau who just ran off on the front end. Set some crazy fractions You can see the peace. Figures are all highly didn't read and time for us and not only that it was a track where speed did not do particularly well. That's what the one seventeen race rating highlighted away. Didn't blue indicates that closers had a field day at Akwa docked on that day so I think Arthur's hope is going to have quite a different trip in here these. He's experiences last time and hopefully turn the tables on some of the others in the field. Data beaten them the last couple of races back going down to Gulfstream upstream from my best batteries number seven. It's an entry level allowance race around two turns for three year olds moon over. Miami is my best bet number eight in this race. We made this horse a horse. Watch gotcha out of the gate. A couple of weeks ago for this maiden when it aqueduct. In his second career start they stretched out here off of a sprint debut. That was better than it looks. And this source just took a big step forward. The structure has got a ton of pedigree to handle the added distance. Here maybe post eight is an added level of difficulty for him but he supposed to fall into a pretty nice trip in this race ace. They've made him a very generous three to one in the morning line. I think he's going to be something much shorter than that and race number seven on Saturday but I like the way this horses. How did I think he has a chance to be one of the better? Are Three year olds coming up my best on Saturday Laurel race number two. That's the number. Six Sir Brahms. Who made the first start off? The claim last time out I think was just ridden way too aggressively by seven pound bug rider. We turn into the stretch and Brahms's emerged from the pace scrum with the league. You see those fractions are pretty hot at Laurel oral and BRAHMS'S GONNA pay the price for his early efforts here. I think the key on Saturday in a race number two is that's going to be a one hundred eighty degree different pace scenario oriole. There is no speed signed on time for. US has a gray bar scenario. and Sir Brahms breaking from. The outside has options he can go to the lead or sit just just off the expected. Moderate pace this barnes been going great guns at Laurel lately and Sue Brahms's pretty nice price on the morning line. He'll be my best bet on Saturday race to number six at Laura we thank you for watching out of the gate we urge you to follow all of. TV's latest offering. Please follow on social media on twitter at D.. RF video and from the latest news notes America's Turf Authority daily racing form. Please follow on twitter at D. R. F. Side Post. That's it for this week. Best of luck when your voice is breaking the gate.

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Out of the Gate - Episode 106 - Fountain of Youth Stakes Edition

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Out of the Gate - Episode 106 - Fountain of Youth Stakes Edition

"Yeah. Welcome to add to the gate daily racing forms weekend. Handicapping preview program. I'm Dan Oldman. Thanks so much for watching. Here's what's coming up in this week's edition of out of the gate. They're only nine graded stakes races at Gulfstream on Saturday and Diarra handicappers. Mike, beer, MAC Bernier, and I will take a look at three of the major ones in this edition of out of the gate. Of course, the Kentucky, Derby prep, the grade to fountain of youth stakes of Cork's, the Kentucky oaks prep, the grade to devoted Dale steaks. And a really nice betting race to close out the card. The grade to MAC Dermott JK Jonathan kitchens play the day focuses on and Gulfstream pick four David era going from time form US spotlights. Three value plays on the Gulfstream card, Nicole Rousseau's gonna take a look at some of the pedigrees of the major three year old contenders in the fountain of youth and Craig mcaliskey's time foreign pace projector focuses on the Honey FOX stakes also at Gulfstream on Saturday. Plus best bet sources to watch and lots lots more. So let's break out of the gate. We begin out of the gate with our horse. Watch segment. Matt you found something out in southern California. Yeah. I gotta be honest. I thought this is a promising debut. This is a horse called galloping mischief. This is debut runner for Richard Mandella. Let's go back to this run last Saturday down the hill widest and fastest of all. And you want to talk about fastest of all this horses are running fool out there. This is the three year old gelding debt. You know, Mandela doesn't normally fire I out of the box when this horse just comes in absolutely runs over the top this field that you're gonna get a little bit green at the end Bob to has left lead. But I thought this is very promising effort. He came home in twenty seven sixteen of the next fastest come home time was almost twenty eight and a half seconds. So this really finished. I would imagine if they don't try the main track next out they'll try to stretch this out to turn on turf that was some serious exceleron in the lane. Mike your horse watch didn't finish like that. But you showed some promise in stakes company in New York. I'd like to take that bat horse to wash offers really are in this daily Princess, though, she did a little run in the stretch to we'll put up the replay for rights I like horses like this dance. She's a little bit. Underrated goes for connections that don't win a ton. But they know what. They're doing and she shows up and runs every time. This is our third career start on dirt. She's run really, well and all of them, and she's a price in this race in steaks and estate. She didn't really have any chance to win the the horse that wins. The race stones in the road. Just got loose on the lead. He she is now an undefeated three for three like to run the source puts in she was out of it at the top of the stretch. She will get up for second. At the end of the big price this Phillies been good at all three. She's got a little bit of potential over the last few years. The Greek trainer. Todd Pletcher is sent some inexperienced horses to Tampa Bay downs. In order to gain confidence in twenty seventeen. It was always dreaming who ended up winning the Kentucky Derby vino row. So that you're also wanna Tampa Bay and route to winning the Wood Memorial last year. It was magnum moon who won an allowance race before doing some really big things on the three year old trail at Oaklawn. And maybe Todd is going to do it again with a three year old named spinoff who made his seasonal in to turn debut last week at Tampa Bay downs. They swing into the stretch in this is already taken the lead. And I just love the way. He accelerated from this field at about the three sixteenths poll now is going to get a little bit green. He's going to stare off into the stands, but he really finishes well over a horse named cave run who's done some good things. Earlier this meet at Tampa Bay spinoff runs an eighty four Beyer speed figure winning by eleven and three quarter lengths he's a half to rugby man takes place towards that's a little bit of a goofball in his own right? But he's just got a beautiful pedigree. He's by hard spun his dam was the grade one acorn winner off dig the damn herself a half to the grade one mother goose winner Zoe impressive and the second dam. Winner of the grade one selene stakes. I think we'll see spin off in a major Kentucky, Derby prep down the road, perhaps not the Tampa Bay derby. But maybe we'll see him at Oaklawn park in a race. Like the rebel. Keep an eye on spinoff for trainer Todd Pletcher. Let's get to some handicapping the Kentucky, Derby prep this week is the fountain of youth. Off the field for a very important Kentucky Derby prep race at Gulfstream Park on Saturday race number thirteen is the great to fountain of youth stakes. Four hundred thousand dollars is the purse. This full field is going mile and a sixteenth four free formulator past performances for the fountain of youth head on over to the race of the day event page at dot com. And for expanded stakes previews of all nine graded races at Gulfstream on Saturday, plus lots lots more head on over to video dot dot com. Or the daily racing form YouTube channel, they'll be uploaded by Friday afternoon vis race goes through the Bill mocked trained hidden scroll. And Matt we talked about hidden scrolls pros and cons on the expanded stakes preview the race of the day. Of course in this race all three of us to try to go against the favourite and Mike your horses and undefeated graded stakes winner. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see what coma can do in here for George Weaver tsa's three year old debut off a little bit of a layoff. So you know, he has things working against them here. It's a tough field for his first start back. He's never been in a to turn rates for his first time around two turns. And he's giving away some recent Sita some good horses in here. But this horse ran twice as a two year old, and he ran legitimately well and both of them. Let's look at the second of the of the two starts that grade. Three Nashua one turn mile. You got a nice trip in this race stalking. The pace. I liked the way he takes it over. And then I liked the way he kicks it in here when the runner up network effect comes for him in the stretch. He's a little green here. He started looks like he's trying to lug it a little bit. But we'll straighten himself out when he sees network effect calming. And he finds another gear and finishes. This race off. This source has a lot of talent. I think he might be square price in here when you consider all the other options, and the fact that he's off all those things I'm willing to get this source of chance in this race square. Price gets Lasix for the first time as well for his to turn debut and couldn't work out a nice trip sitting in the second flight. Matt your force lack stakes experience. But what he does have is victory around turns at Gulfstream Park that came in his most recent run this the eight global campaign. Let's go and take a look at that one right now, I recognize a lot of people probably look at it and say, well didn't really beat a heck of a lot not a lot of running going on behind him. I don't think local campaign has ever looked like a loser any point either of his two lifetime starts, and I can understand some reluctance to really buy into this horse considering regressed eight points on the buyer scale. But Dan, we talked about it in stakes previ- he paired up as raw time form ratings of one six those numbers alone are relatively close. I think the paired up numbers suggest a forward move is coming here. And he's another one that's going to be probably pretty close to double digit odds. I wanna give the number one code von or one more chance for trainers should mcgahey. We talk about how Bill mutt? Rarely wins with first time starter and shut doesn't win too often with them either. But code of honor was the debut winner at Saratoga last summer. And then he made his second start in the grade one champagne, and we break from the gate in the champagne, I watch code of honor go right to his nose right there. And that I think compromised. His chances just a little bit. We'll pick up the tape in a bit as they turn into the stretch. And you'll see the code of honor is very very wide swinging into the lane. This is a lot to ask for a horse stretching out a quarter of a mile face in winners for the first time and start number two and you rally solidly to finish second behind favored complexity after this race code of honor had some issues he missed a start in the Breeders Cup juvenile. He missed a start in the rim sin, and he made his three year old debut with very disappointing performance in the mutual. Macho man stakes my opinion of that race is that he was under trained for that race that shook did not have him ready to roll he has been working bullets over the pace and park surface leading up to the fountain of youth. He draws great inside post position. And I'm hoping that John Velazquez can work at a trip in a race where there is a lot of pace I'll go with Kotova honor. He's six to one of the morning line and the fountain of youth to learn more about some of the pedigrees of the horses running in the fountain of youth. We've got Nicole Rousseau's pedigree pick, and then we'll head on over to Craig McAliskey of time for you. US? He's got a paste projector for the Honey FOX stakes on the fountain of youth undercard. Hey, everyone Nicole Russo here for out of the gate ready to take a closer look at the fountain of youth. Here's the field for the race set for Saturday at Gulfstream Park. It offers fifty Kentucky Derby points to the winner. And it's a chance for a few previous graded stakes winners signalman and Vico medicate moving forward. But it also represents a chance for hidden scroll and global campaign to take their first step up to the graded level. Both are coming off. Impressive wins at Gulfstream. Both are regally bread colts with families that will suggest that they would relish more distance. Let's take a closer look at each of them. I will watch hidden scroll as you roll through the stretch on route two fourteen length win in his one mile debut. Here's an eye popping one. Oh, four buyer. Now. He's by classic place hard, spun Sayer of champion and alaba-. Emma, winner questing would Morial winner wicked strong and Gold Cup winner hard aces. He's from a deep John not female family that can also route his second dam is great while winter toy Montag at this is the extended family of multiple grade one winner site seek multiple grade one winner Tate's creek European champion and French one thousand Guineas winner special duty Breeders Cup mile winner expert, I and others. Now, we'll take a closer look at global campaign remaining, unbeaten in two starts with an allowance. Optional win at Gulfstream. He's by classic winner and classic sire kirwin intern by another multiple classic siren. Smart strike kirwin has produced a winner of a triple crown race or a coal who is placed in one of those races from each of his crops, thus far global campaign stamina further bolstered by his female family. He's out of an AP indie mayor whose first two foals were. Sonic mule. A stakes winner at a mile and multiple grade. One winner bolt door who could win around two turns. And who was second in the Santa Anita derby last year to none other than eventual triple crown winner justify the fountain of youth, one of several graded stakes and Saturdays busy program at Gulfstream Park. We're taking you through all of the action out of the gate and up next. We'll get you over to Craig for a closer look at how to use the time for the US pace projector. Hi, this is Craig mccaskey for time for MU s for this week's edition about at the gate today. I'm going to take a look at the Greek three Honey FOX it's being run at Gulfstream Park is the eleventh race on Saturday. And the reason it stuck out to me is that we have it highlighted as a race likely to have a fast pace, I do like to pick a race up. That has some kind of mention of peace projector, and you can notice on our preview page that I highlighted some of the horses that we expect it contend for the lead net lead to this label. We have horseless that as a leader. Although interestingly enough that horses not shown in front in our face projector, mostly because she just hasn't run fast enough, but there's also four other trackers which are horses like to be on or near the front in this case, we have valid Victorian listed as a tracker shown on a clearer lead. And you'll see from reprieve piece, which we're going to look at after we take a quick closer look at the pace for Jek. They're just why that is. Here's a closer. Look at the peace projector. A UNC valedictorian is shown in front. This is just a more expanded view sometimes some horses. Oh, get cut off from that. Smaller version, if you'll see notes if there are any like, if a horse was Ed blinkers, or if there was a European Chipper who hadn't run here, maybe not shown in the face for decker. And it would tell us why. So this is where you would see it. When you see this blown up version. Let's take a look about the Taurean. We did have said as a tracker and looking at the PP juke and see why she's won three of her last five starts on all turf. She's won twice wire-to-wire, which is also shown that the mention where she can reach just off the pace and win. So we don't want to call her speed horse or leader. But given the velocity she shown she's a worse week spec to be in front, and I also think despite the fast paced exited nation that she's going to run pretty well in here. She shown can handle a fast pace if she gets clear and still run. Well, she showed his able to set a slow pace last time. Met's is indicated by those fractions with our speed fingers are really consistency. Roy runs in the upper mid one teens so solid contender ear. She's not going to be my selection as we'll see soon. But I do think she will run well next. I wanna take a look at the morning lights savored odds, Bella vase, and you know, eating cheese one two zero s three her speed figures are similar I just I just don't think she's all that fast. She's moving up little bit in competition to the horse that I am going to eventually inches tepid three to one morning line favorite. I actually don't think she's going to go off the favourite. Do wanna mention one other thing with her is that you'll see I highlighted that the race to back was over good track. There's a new time formula's feature where we tell you just how firm we think the track was on a scale of one that tan, and they she didn't run quite as well as the other are Osler. She was beaten four. Uh three and a half Wentz in fourth. I could've easily been that the fast pace, which we have highlighted in red. But we also think maybe she didn't handle the the softer turf as well. Another horse the third choice on the morning line at four two one is don't Chailly, and she's course, if you just spoke at her speed fingers, she solid enough. She always seems the runner run of ratios hit the board each of the six starts, and I'm showing here and all of the dirt was a little bit of her rushing speed figure west, but on the turf, they're all between one nine one fifteen so solid effort. But I just don't think that's going to be good enough to get it. Get it done in here. And again, I'm not a big fan of this morning line because I'm gonna move onto the horse that I do thanks gonna win and for lack of knowing how to pronounce it perfectly. I'm just gonna car precious ahead. It's. Little bit tough to pronounce didn't have time to look it up. But she is the two horse in here. She runs for Chad Brown, you know, the premier turf trainer in the country. It's not at one of the premier trainers in the country period. And she just trying to huge one twenty six figure to race where we do think. There's some 'patio has by far the best time for US late speed rating, which you can see on that preview page again, I cut that part off on the individual PP's, but it's also shown in our product as well for each other. She can see him. But I liked to compare them on the preview page or you can see them all at one glance of the one node. I won't make yours notice that race reading right next to the Saratoga. August fourth rates rating was a one twenty but we have a little owed there. And that's what we call one of our question Mark codes where we don't have complete confidence in the speed figure in this case, the ohm means it was the only race. I was the only turf Reese run a territory that day on the end or surface. Other may have been one on the. Outer I didn't look we treat those two different courses. So it was the only race run on the enter in those cases what I like to do is. I click on the top three. You sit union won the race. In our past performance is click on that it'll open up the chart. I when I do open up that chart, I take a look and see how the worse is done. If they come back and back up that figure and a quick look at the chart here shows that the horses have they've all run as good or better, or at least very similar as third police horse had a slight regression. But the the winner has come back the run to Grace's you can excellent scroll through the figures in Seattle at all our next to that one twenty two year, look even further into the future. But despite that designation it was the only turf receipts figures of held up. Well, and I have no problem thinking that precious here is a standout. I don't think we're going to get anywhere near that seven the two morning line. I'd be surprised if she's not less than two one. I shall pry be in the three to maybe even seven the five range. With this is a horse. I'm gonna go Nin on heavily in both horizontal verticals. I'm gonna single or I'm going to keep her in vertical bets and looked to make a score. Elsewhere in Olympic get some other horses that I got underneath. So that does it for this week for time formula out of the gate, OPN joy that look at the Honey FOX and I'll be back next week with a new race. Are you course, player looking to raise your game for over a hundred and twenty years expert handicappers have relied on daily racing form. As there must have source for news and data, featuring exclusive buyer, speak figure time formula's paste and integrated replay DEA ref formulator is the most powerful handicapping tool on the market today us what the pros us go to dot com slash formulator and Hendrik O D R f- TV to get your first card free DR F dot com. Raise your game. Welcome back to add to the gate. Let's throw up the field for the Devonian. Dale stakes Carter's race number twelve at Gulfstream on Saturday. This a one turn mile. It is a great to for two hundred thousand dollars. You are two to five morning line. Favorite is twenty eighteen two year old filly champion. Jay, walk for expanded stakes previews of all the graded stakes races at Gulfstream this weekend and lots lots more head on over to video dot dot com. Or the daily racing form you to channel Mike, obviously, the story of this race is Jay walk. Let's talk a little bit about the second choice on the morning line. The number seven, high regard graded stakes placed in her own, right. Yeah. Not not too bad this Bill. She's sort of was coming along and stages as a two year, we're gonna show a replay of an allowance race at Keeneland. This is right off of her maiden. When did come in a one turn mile Churchill, this is her first art after that to turn mile? Can you see your sort of over a tough spot there behind horses? She can't get clear and she's going to have to. Course after the winner is already got momentum and going by. So I think she actually ran okay in this race exiting this spot. She was stakes place in the rags-to-riches. She ran okay. And the Goldenrod greatest things at the end of the year race. It did not have any at all. If he gets a better setup here shouldn't get a piece of us. But she liked the rest of the Phillies in this race are going to have to have a nail Don tight to be jaywalk did so much in such a short amount of time last year mad. I mean four starts. She went from a five furlong maiden winner at parks to a Breeders Cup champion. Guess you're in five times last year five different tracks. And she'll kick things off your and twenty nine thousand nine at another tricks of six tracks six races. Let's go back to the Breeders Cup. She went out there and put the boots to pretty well. I suppose. Subpar field that you have a couple of good horses that have come back and done some good things. Bell of FINA came back and won a graded stakes race was a ninety five and Seren Getty. Empress? She won her stakes race with ninety one. I gotta be honest with you guys. I think she's the controlling speed in here should breaking from the rail. I know this is a means to an end, but I couldn't get to cute. I think she's too much for this field. I go with Matt on this. She just towers over this base. I did as a two year old. We'll say let's maybe you don't wanna take shot against this at the time to get right off the lineup breaking from the rail. But to mention looks good for these orces, she might have a pace advantages. Well, it seems like all the stars are aligning for the very talented. Jay walk. I don't want to have too much money in against her. But I will take a little stab with the number six, bold script. It's worth mentioning the quality work that this Philly did on turf and synthetic last year at Woodbine. She was third in the grade one that tell Talamo on the grass and inner synthetic debut. Most recent start the Princess Elizabeth stakes. She destroyed this field going mile in a sixteenth. She turns into the. Taken over this thing, and Gary Buluan shea is going to ride or with the utmost confidence she draws away to win by almost eight lengths. It's a career-best eighty three Beyer speed figure. I just wish this Philly had more dirt pedigree. She's by spice down who, of course, can get you a dirt runner, but when you look at the female family, it is all turf and synthetic what allays my fears somewhat is that bold script has worked several bullets over the palm meadows dirt training track. Maybe bold script is ready to catch the favourite off the layoff. She's going to be a much better price. But just certainly got to use the big favourite as an a in any kind of multiple race. Wagers small step for me with bold script in the Devonian. Dale will move to the dirt to the turf the McDermott looks like a fantastic bedding race. Salty older turf forces go eleven furlongs in the MAC Dermott stakes at Gulfstream on Saturday. Let's throw up the field parades, number fourteen two hundred thousand dollars purse for expanded stakes previews of all the graded races at Gulfstream on Saturday, plus lots lots more head on over to video DR dot com. Or the daily racing form YouTube channel, we'll have a mall uploaded by Friday afternoon. Matt Zulu alpha has just merged as a consistently good turf runner and his tactical. Speed allows them to get great trips. It seems every time you runs and you wanna talk about a great trip. This is how you draw up for turf race. This is the dream situation. Let's go back to the McKnight Andy CAPP and his most recent start going to say he's those pink. Silks ortiz. Got the mount you're saving ground. You're sitting in the pocket. You tip out to the two path. Everything is opens wide and you split through. We'll get one hundred Riley and a little bit on the outside. But I mean you wanna. About the perfect scenario for a turf trip. It's exactly what this horse got. Now. I think you can look at that one or two ways and say, you're right. He's a nice horse. It usually works out those kind of trips that same time at a short price. I don't know that I wanna gamble on the fact that everything may or may not work out. Again, exactly the way it didn't make night. I think he's a very logical runner. I wanna take a little shot against him. No zoo ALPHA's hot horse is a sharp horse. But you could argue Mike that on his very best day channel maker is the best horse. Yeah. I think it's pretty clear when you go through this race top to bottom that if channel maker shows up runs his best race in this by maybe. Well, maybe won't. But if he does he's just going to be really hard to be in this race. I'm willing to give him excuses for his last two starts. We're going to go back three starts on his car. This is the great one. Joe Hurst classic bell park. He got right through the lead in this race. He turned away challenger around the second turn of this race. And I was gonna turn away another challenge from Robert Bruce here in the stretchy stays strongly. He's much the best in this race with a one away Beyer speed figure, I know post eleven guys, maybe it'll. Compromise chances a little bit. But I like the Joel Rosario back up or the source Joel was largely responsible for getting more involved early last summer. I think it led to dramatic improvement for him. And I think even with post eleven Joe is going to make sure he gets forward this time. And to me he's just the best source on the race. If he shows up excuses in his last two races wicked speed duel in the Breeders Cup Turf. Just didn't get anywhere near as customary and comfortable spot near the early lead last time out in the Pegasus turf. Getting back to hunter O'Reilly, Matt. And you and I both liked the blast time despite the long layoff. He was the first time gelding, and to be honest that was very proud with the way he ran I thought he really well too. When you consider this off of such a long lay-off very very testing turf. Course, they're down at Gulfstream that Davor yielding. And then we're gonna throw up the replay. And you can see how much ground he's giving up in the grand scheme. He's on the floor outside in again considering he'd been gone for such a long time. This is far from a disgraceful effort from this horse. I think he's only going to take a step forward. Here. You're going to get firm going here on Saturday afternoon down at Gulfstream. I don't know, Dan. I think I have to obligated to give them another chance of double digits. I'm with you. I'm gonna go with hundred Riley is well and a little bit concerned about the possibility of firm turf because this is a horse that has had foot problems in his career. And maybe that yielding turf course actually worked to his favor last time out, but that was his first race off the long layoff as we mentioned his first race as gelding. And the last time you went second off the layoff for Jimmy toner here into one. Oh, three Beyer speed figure. He's the kind of horse than his race luck and paste dependent. Let's hope he gets a trip under Tyler gaffe Alina. Here's a good price on the morning line hunter O'Reilly at ten to one. And I'll give him a chance as he makes his second start of the form cycle. J K Jonathan Kinchen's play the day. He's got a pick four wager at Gulfstream. And then David our of time form US looks at three value plays on Saturdays Gulfstream card. Let's get to those segments right now. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Jake as play of the day derby season upon us the fountain of youth next couple weeks, we typically derby, then we're we're gonna act would've no glum saying Nita, very exciting. Time of the year where these three year olds starved to to remind us of the possibilities of what what can happen with a horse like American pharaoh or justify or even your favorite derby win that didn't happen to win. A triple crown. We're gonna play a pick for at Gulfstream Park. They got a ton of steaks. I think they have nine graded stakes on Saturday. We're going to play the late pick for it's a race starting and race eleven the Honey FOX this is called my take what the defense gives you play. Now. Look a lot of people make fun of me for the chalk that I picked. But it's a real thing that I do I find favorites that I can lean on and sequences, and I try to Hamer those sequences listened to the podcast we often say try to crush their souls. I'm gonna try to do that. And this sequence here with two singles and then two races. Where I'm only gonna use to horses and the first leg I'm going to single the one presi use to Horford for Chad Brown. He had first time he had the horse ran in Saratoga and the soft. She ran really well that day was beaten by looney who is a is one of the more talented runners and Chad Brown's turf born, and she was right there with her on a soft ground coming in off quite a layoff two hundred ten days last three works have been on the turf course, Chad doesn't usually bring them over there short. This one shown a ton of talent on that. Soft course running a figure that none of these other horses are really getting close to Torah in terms of time for us. I'm going to start with a single there. She seven to two on the morning line. However, I don't believe she'll be seven to two in the pick four sequence. And I don't even think she'll be seventy two in the wind pool. Going onto the next race. I'm not gonna waste much your time here and the devoted Dale. I'm is cold. Jay walk. I think she's the best three year old filly in the country. She showed that Breeders Cup day. And I think she'll show it again here as she gets ready for her truck trail to the. Kentucky oaks onto the thirteenth race of us to horses. Here code of honor is not one of them. I get maybe some people thought the horse had an excuse last time. I thought the horse ran too bad to to really lean on here at what should come down from six to one. I think I only need to horses but coma the five horse horse for George. Weaver ran really well some races in New York. I think that horses sitting on a big race and that hidden scroll, I get it. The flashy number was on on a sloppy racetrack. But the thing that I'm most impressed when it comes to that horse is that it was Bill Maher I out from the rail showing speed wire-to-wire that shows a lot of talent that's not something that you normally see from from Bill Maher horses. I think hidden scrolls, the real deal, he might not be your derby winner. I do think he's your fountain of youth winter going onto race fourteen. The last leg mile and three eighths on the turf, I always looked to see where Mike maker has one in here. And he does have one ensue alpha who ran well last time, I'm gonna use zoo alpha, and then I'm gonna use channel maker who's a horse that I've. Picked some big grade ones on these kind of turf marathons so to not use them in this spot might be a little bit silly, obviously had an excuse with kind of a weird ride. And then also the yielding surface that showed up on Pegasus World Cup day. Those the only two I need here. Look, I'm going to try to have this depending on your budget. I'm gonna try to have a ten dollar pick four twenty five dollar pick four a fifty dollar pick four I'm going to try to hammer the sequence right here in what I think is very straightforward sequence. There's no reason to really reach outside the box to me the favorites are the types that you can lean on good luck. See an actually. Hi, everyone. I'm David Arrigoni. But this week's time formula spotlight. There's a smorgasbord of excellent stakes races on Saturday at Gulfstream Park. Found of youth is the highlight of the entire card, but I want to take a look at three of the undercard stakes races starting with the fifth race the Canadian turf and the number three horse holiday. Stone is a long shot in this race that I think is really worthy of consideration. Breaking the rules is going to be a big favorite in this race coming off to visually. Impressive scores. One Gulfstream Park and one at Belmont Park, but in his turf debut, he was actually defeated by holiday stone way back in September at Saratoga of last year. Holiday stone read well that day earning a one twenty three time formula speed figure a repeat of that number would make him very competitive against this field. And I don't think breaking the rules is a horse that necessarily has to win this race as he stepped up in class. It's not as if speed figures make him any kind of horse that has a huge edge on this field and holiday stone has run well enough to win stakes races at this level in the past. And his recent efforts are a little bit. Better than they seem. He was against the pace to back. And then last time if you watch that trip, it's unfortunate, but the chart caller just completely missed the trouble that he had in that simple. Comet outrun inside. This is a horse that was down on the rail coming to the top of the stretch in a race. The completely collapsing ahead of him. He ended up in behind a few speed horses. Just going nowhere the horses did well in that L pro or making wide moves closing down the center of the track and holiday stone. Just got robbed of all his momentum. While he was studying down inside the late stages. He never got a chance to run that day. He's much better than that. And I think the pay situation of this race is going to make him much more dangerous because the time formulas pays projector is predicting a situation favoring runners front, and he's predicted to be in a solid stock and position. So I think holidays is an interesting horse to use as an alternative to breaking the rules, especially to get around that eight to one morning line price moving onto the seventh race in the very one. I wanna take a shot at the number one horse dance land this horse again that just had a terrible trip last time. Charcoal. Didn't miss this one. She was legitimately steadied at multiple points. In the stretch drive last time, John Velasco is just seem to by chance. Make all the wrong moves coming into the quarter pole on this horse. She was inside ridden into traffic. He tried to go outside with her. She encountered traffic again went back inside at the eighth coal. And there's just nowhere for her to run. He really didn't get a chance to write her out to the finish. And she finished with way more left in the tank than he would have liked dance. Land handles the my own sixteenth distance. I think that's actually really perfect for her. She ran well to back against solid graded stakes company in the Long Island handicap that mile three eighths if anything was a little bit far for her. I think she's going to enjoy the cutback to a my own three sixteenths. And I just don't think there's anybody that former in this race because holy Halina who's the morning line favorite. She's a bit inconsistent at times. I don't think she has to win this race. And tricky escape, you know, she's very dangerous. It listed stakes races grade three types, which this is. But I mean, she's really does have a ceiling. And I think dance land is should mcgahey horse. Classic type of you know. Horse that he has that improves over time improves with age. And I think she can take another step forward in this very one six to one on the morning line seems like a fair price on this horse. Finally in the fourteenth race the race. After the interview the mcdiarmid I wanna take a shot with a bomb in this race, the number three or smell Mitch. I know is recent performances and his recent speed figures just make him look a little too slow but going back his Woodbine efforts at the end of twenty eight and he was in a bunch of slow paced races racist that just played out in a fashion that really didn't allow him to use his strength. And I think his efforts in all of those races are just not quite as bad as they seem at one time. This was a horse that was certainly classy enough to stack up against a field like this. I mean, there was a time back in two thousand seventeen when he was running time formula speed figures of one thirty and above those numbers would crush this field. Now, the question is can you transfer that Senic synthetic form to Turkey and last time out you might say, oh, well, he only got a one ten time from your speed and figure that's not good enough. Well, that was that was on the short side for him. He was far back in the early. And he was just finishing like a freight train through the stretch she was passing horses at a very high rate. It's not like it was a race that fell apart or anything like that. Even though the time for US pays figures are color coded red. It's not a race that collapsed at the end and moment was just closing much faster than anybody else at the end of that race while having to weave through traffic. I was really impressed by the impressed. Just by the visual for him from visual standpoint, as he was closing that day in galloped out so strongly he's going to have no trouble stretching out to the mile three eighths because he's one as far as a mile three quarters on this track and just looking through his main competitors in this race channel maker who's going to be the favorite. I know. He's the class of the field, and he will win if he gets back his best performances from thousand eighteen but he's been somewhat fortunate in his big wins. And I just don't think channel maker is necessarily at the same place that he was back in two thousand eighteen and he's a little bit hard for me to take off that dole effort in the Pegasus turf invitational last time, and then the number six through the wealth of another one that's likely to take money. He got an off. Awesome trip last time in the McKnight under a rod Ortiz just got through at the right time in a race. That was about to fall apart. Got the jump on his main rivals. And I'm not sure that I really like him getting back on a firm, turf course, his horse that's appreciated some given the ground in the past. And I think both of these favorites are Volna Rable. Mel Mitch is getting a writer. Switch to have your Castellano. He's going to be a big price in this race. And I think he's going to make a big run the leaders late and can get into the top three. I'll use them to win. But I also wanna use this horse inexact as and trifecta so that three horses that may offer some value on Gulfstream Saturday card Nelson. It back to the studio. Time for our best bet segment here on out of the gate. Great racing Gulfstream on Saturday. Matt where you going? I'm going to go stream race number five. It's the Canadian turf at a mile on grass. Obviously, this may not be the most likely winner of the race. But the short comment line for the number three holiday stone little bit on the uncharitable side. The short comments is out run inside. Let's throw up the tape. You tell me if this is out run inside he's the number two right now. And it looks like he's ready to roll beneath our meal, he's down on the inside. The problem is again, we talk about it in turf racing. All the time you're at the mercy of patient trip. Well, the pace was there for him to run at the problem is the trip just didn't develop because at this point everyone else is coming on the far outside. They've got a full head of steam and this horse holiday stone is buried inside horses. And he's going to end up almost dead. Last shuffled back. He never any points is allowed to get going. And I just think that this race is considerably better than it looks. I think there were also three other races prior to that you can make excuses for. You go through all those your left for the pretty big effort at Saratoga within ninety six by he's eight one on the line. He was not outrun inside. He's just never had a chance to run. That's why you watch races. Folks. He wasn't outrun inside. Mike, look like one of those Meadowlands three hole trips that didn't work out where you going with your best bet. Yeah. I'm going to upstream as well. Ray sevens. The very one grade three on the turf mile and three sixteenths. I like one dance land typical runner from this bar and just sort of getting better with racing dance land for showing mcgahee, I like the campaign. She put together last year as a four year old. She ran well on the Long Island. I thought to starts back closing ground throughout this is her next start her most recent start down at Gulfstream Park. We're going to look at the replay. Now, this is another sort of similar to match source was buried around the second turn behind doors as you can see Johnny v and stretch, you just can't get anywhere for her to run and she will wind up last from here. She doesn't have any chance. I think she's better than she looks on paper. I think this is a good distance for her. And at the end of the day. This is just a kind of race where I don't really like to favorite. I think she's as good as any of them with the. I trip I think she can win. I'll go to Gulfstream to replace as well recently before is the grade three Palm Beach for three year olds on the grass, and I'm hoping that the number six louder than bombs can turn the tables on the number five a threat of blue they faced each other earlier last month in the dania beach steaks, and we'll turn into the stretch of that race the threat of blue just got absolutely loose. That day is the favourite letter bombs is kicking down towards the inside. You could see the puck. Lopez wants to try to angle out three wide. And that's just not there. He's going to have to tap on the brakes ever so slightly now he's going to come through down towards the inside. He probably doesn't catch threat of blue iffy gets through with the perfect trip. But I thought all all the horse ran well to be second. This time around threat of blue his even money in the morning line. And they're just might be a little bit more pace to keep that horse company on the front end. I'm hoping that louder than bombs would benefit from a faster pace this time around he's three to one on the morning line. And he switches to I read or TS June. We thank you for watching out of the gate this week. And we urge you to follow all of TV's offerings. Please follow on social media at D R F video and for the latest news and notes from America's turf authority daily racing form. Please follow on Twitter at Diarra f- inside post. That's.

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - April 9th 2021

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - April 9th 2021

"Welcome to the weekend stakes preview on the horse racing radio network presented by naira vets. Top concert tour is the leader. He's a quarter mile from rev old victory and he leads by length from caddo river in second to the outside keeping in mind then get her number final furlong. Concert tour is now four length in front and concert. Tour is running them off their fate in the rebel concert. Tour five lengths in front your mike. It second eight rebels for baffert concert tour. Wow how big run four and a half hosur second big lake third. Maybe superstock for four. Now here's anthony. Stabile and bobby newman. Good evening everyone. Welcome to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bats here on the horse racing radio network on the big a anthony stabile in new york. Bobby new down. South florida producivity. Though peanut back in our lexington kentucky studios ten stakes for you. This saturday akwa kieland oaklawn. Last two stops on the kentucky derby trail last couple of cancer. Get some points in the lexington at keeneland and the arkansas derby down at oaklawn park. What's happening bob looking forward to another big weekend the final weekend if you will as far as preps go for the kentucky derby the final qualifiers this weekend with the arkansas gerber at oaklawn lexington at keeneland. And then we'll know who the top twenty qualifiers are and it's just a matter of if they're all headed to the starting gate on the first saturday in may yeah this is it last. Couple of preps twenty points to the winner in the hundred to the winner of the arkansas derby. Go time final points. Preparations play all over at nyra. Bets dot com head on over to open an account. Hris hundreds of promo code beck two hundred. Get two hundred last week for the derby. Bankroll bill fifty dollars to win. Or more on your selection and the arkansas derby on the narrow app and if your horse Win or lose you get twenty bucks back at the vets dot com for more details. Cross hundred five america's day at the racists friday saturday and sunday check your local listings for timely during on fox. Sports to this weekend. Also please keep in mind. We're recording this show. Thursday bobby traveling fridays on vacation next week. The most the next week so he'll be back for the weekend stakes next week. But we're recording the show on thursday so whether some changes we're not going to give you a blurs news update will tell you what you can read over there. Though but in any event we have ten stakes at the end of the show. The last segments the arkansas derby. And we're gonna talk about the three year old picture because after tomorrow night and that race goes late every goes it at like seven thirty or so eastern time will we'll know we'll have the at least the top twenty points getters and whose figures to be way are come the best. You're listening to this. It's three weeks in a wake up to kentucky derby day pretty amazing all right. Let's get things started off an aqueduct. Top-flight invitational is at a mile and an eight hundred thousand on the line. So once around the main track of the big day features a field of six Some interesting runners in here namely mrs danvers. Who won the commonly. As a three year. Old at this furlong distance aqueduct to starts back tried older stakes phillies for the first time to no avail when she do on the lead of the royal delta last time at gulfstream kendrick bruce rights and her allergist currents are all just one. The bell dame was third tomato. My girl in the tryon last summer mott's only had it for four starts at a fantastic winter and at gulfstream park. He's kicked off this new meet ecuador three or six junior. Our rights are just from post five. I'll tell you what anthony for a short field of only six fantastic race. I five of the six runners. I think have a legitimate shot in here. We didn't mention clean the kea. She's the one who won the royal delta where mrs danvers was favored queen nikita was almost thirty two one that day and came running by mrs danvers. And everyone else to get the win. Lucky stride has riding a to raise win streak into this today. She has only tried graded stakes competition in this country once and it was back in august last year in the shoe and she really didn't run that bad behind the true ska and royal flag. She was only beaten three and a half lengths and even on the outside thankful looks like she's kind of an up and comer. I think all things equal that geraldo gist is the most talented runner in the field. Right now. her good races. I think are better than anyone else in. This race can run. She's not the most consistent mayor in the world She's kind of an innovator and outer you never know when she's going to throw in a you know a kind of a clunker or half a clunker in there and some of the times. It's been where she's just been overmatched. She didn't expect to get the win or at least most people didn't expect to get the win. In the breeders cup distaff we last saw on november seventh at keelan but she. She ran a poor race. He was beaten ten lengths. That day finishing ninth in the field of ten maybe. She was just tired from a longer campaign her good races though including the bell dame win against a short field last year. The molly pitcher win our better than this field can handle. No monoploy girls in here. I think she'll roll by the pace of mrs danvers. And she'll get the win tomorrow in the top flight all right. I went to our oldest shocker. For me i'm just a fan Bills the such a great job with her and is force. I mean you know. I'm not gonna hold the breeders cup against her other three races racist really good Queen mcqueen the kea was the beneficiary of the being the other saffy joseph last time The phillies that dueled with mrs danvers. Also trained by saffy kind of rent her into the ground and the key just came rolling violated a huge price keep in mind some of these phillies have runoff lasix. Some of them haven't Just hasn't which is. I have a little trepidation. Almost people think i'm a A worry wart with. But i do i have a little trepidation. But i do like her. Allergist i think queen the kea Who saffy. Joseph came in here last saturday one. The bayshore were drain. o'clock one. The carter with mischievous alex who one hundred and nine beyer speed figure and one of the clamor that day so he's going to have a string of horses at belmont park. He's a perfect roof for three. So far ecuador's we'll see queen a key. Does she of it. I would want So five to me harassed over clean kia race number five goes as the flight invitational later on on this. Saturday card is the dangers. Our goes race eight a flat mile on the inner turf. Course here Another interesting bunch of wars is decorated invader makes his first start since The hollywood derby. I start against older horses. Christoph gaumont junior alvarado team up analyze it horn graded stakes winner. Comes up for chad brown. Six year old son of point of entry. Jose ortiz will ride. Chattels has delaware and here Figures to be a battle between those two price talk comes in for him. Horia ray you But i would imagine those. Two decorated invader analyze it. Take the money in here boy partner. I i'm guessing you have a tough time with this race. And when you've got a stake race where you got clermont trainy a bill. Ma tre chad brown trainees. And and one of the chad brown trainees delaware's a horse. That for some reason you've decided to adopt as your own. And he may not be as good as his entry in his stablemate near. You must really be scratching your head in this point. I think it's a real tough race to any cap. I picked analyze it on top. He's run well off the bench in the past boy. He's got a lot of gaps in his racist for horse. That is situated. He's only ten starts and his maiden races on the page from october of twenty seventeen so obviously they've had issues keeping this horse race sound when he gets to the races though he usually runs very very well now last time we saw disappointed against either and raging bull in the shadwell turf mile. We haven't seen him since and that was october of last year but he fires well fresh. I think he's going to be able to sit. Just off the pace of rinaldi who does have a chance down along the inside. The other horse that i would use with him would be penalty. The bill maher training. I know junior alvarado takes off to stick with decorated invader and that makes sense. He's ridden decorated invader in the past and decorated invader. has a much better resume than penalty but penalty really lost all chance at winning his last start right at the beginning when he had a lot of traffic trouble clipped heels and would just way too far back. There was nothing that can be done. He's got races that. Make him a contender so i use him. He'll probably be a little bit of an over an underlay rather an overlay. Just because he's got kind of hidden form but analyze it on top for me. I trust and chad brown off the lay often. I trust and analyze it to run a good race more often than not as do i. I don't think there's a is there a delaware property on on mobley. I don't think there is right trying to. I'm trying to remember the top of my head. I can't remember the delaware but boy like you said i've kind of adopted was my own i. I don't know i'm kinda done though. I've seen enough. I mean he's over six in this country. I don't know what it takes for you to to. that's it. that's an unindicted tap out the tap out in a ufc right. I tap out Yeah i just. I decorated invader kind of has the look of a horse who they caught up to last year. I was a fan of his kinda feel like they caught up to the other way. You can look at it is was he just better at this distance. Was it the distance that started getting him. I think you could argue both points. I don't know what to do with him tomorrow. I don't know what to do with him tomorrow. i know i don't like it has a little more positional speed than he does. Unless it's going to be short or too. I mean you know we say positional speed. I would imagine all these other leading analyze it's just gonna sit there analyze it You know take the short price chats had great numbers coming back up here with her forces analyze it for me race. Number on saturday goes as the dangers. Our let's get into the keeneland action. Rusted away it's four from keeneland four from oaklawn park. The ben ali goes as ray seven. It's a great three mile an eighth just to feel the five night ops even money brad cox javier alpha post three sober dust. Five to two bret calhoun the biscuit. Abbas schizo. I don't know who else going to bet. I would imagine these horses a very very short and everybody else's at these price. I actually think it's a pretty wide open race night. Ops may be the most trustworthy runner of the field. Because even when he doesn't win he usually runs very very well. I wouldn't take even money on him in this field. I don't think he lays over this field. I'm a little intrigued with number one. Bloom air for rudy broussais and lewis is by the way. I'm i'm on a big louis. Sayas train it seems like keeneland. So if louis sayas has a good week that's going to be pretty good for me I don't think luminaries any better. Maybe some of the other ones in this field but he may be in front of the other ones in this field. There's just not a lot of speed night ops is more of a stalker mid pack horse. Same can be said with sprawl silver. Dust has gotten to the lead when they go very very slowly. Same with treasure trove. Maybe baalu luminary just gets out from the rail and goes and if that happens. I think he could be tough to catch okay. So you're looking at a little different angle. I i had a heck of a time with this heat. I mean bowling. They're coming off the all weather treasure trove coming out of a mile and a half night ops of the race but has he really done a lot of running behind silver. State this winter. And that's a comment. You don't see often no match up to. He hasn't back-to-back back. Start on the short comment. No match up to a minute. That is just as ugly as a comment as i've ever seen But like. I said you want silver dust. Who hasn't won in over a year. I don't blame you for trying. Upset the favorites. I'm very very very very reluctantly. Pick night ops here. Because i don't have faith in any of them and if i'm not going to have faith in any of them i might as well keep the take the one that i think has been keeping the company so i took night ops. Believe me Is even money. I don't want to put anybody in this race but night ops to pick from me ray. Seven causes the great three bentley. We'll take i break. We'll come back and wrap the keeneland coverage for saturday at keeneland. You're listening to weei. 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She is going to win our usa. Few struggling in the sound points day of summer was second and drop a hint. Finish honorably al on the call at a sand pointing. It was all comma here. We'll see how she does down in the jenny wiley at keeneland on saturday. Welcome back to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by naira bet here on the horse racing radio network. The big a. Bobby newman taking you through a fantastic friday night. Don't forget we're recording. This show on thursday. So can't be responsible for any weather or the such normally we talk about the boar's news update now but giving you news thirty hours in advance and seem to make any sense. So we'll just tell you that you can sign up for the blowers daily voters daily. Brings you the latest racing breeding. Sales industry news analysis entries results race. Replay videos and warn. It's all right at your fingertips you can have the daily sent to you via email or you can use the phone app which is all updated throughout the day or you can listen to the daily or alexa device. All of those versions of free go to blowers dot com slash daily download. The app get daily email. Sign up today. You can do it all over. Pool dot com backslash dally. So we already talked about the ben ali. There's an all stick. Four that goes from racist. Seven through ten is a pick five starts in recession as well. The giants causeway goes race. Eight at keeneland tomorrow and the giants causeway as you would expect draws a field because that's turf sprint. To bobby for the phillies in mass. They'll go five and a half for a long. We get a field of ten and interesting bunch into mystics affiliated a man. now you've had some success with over the course of the last year or so Brendon walsh is a great job. With our only time. She's been out of the try in in seven tries. Four brendan was in the breeders cup turf sprint. Against a boy she's back with the ladies l. z's gotten a better over down at the fairgrounds Two of the three times they've met this winter l. z's back in here as well but intimate sixty two to one favorite from the rail with near and i pick into mystic in this race for one real to real reasons. One is the fact that she can close. And there's a lot of speed in this race when l. beaten gotten lead pretty easily go wire-to-wire. I'm not sure that's going to happen. Characters fast ooh barracuda and jakarta are both very fast. If they wanna be they could pressure l z and actually presser from the outside. The other reason. I like intimacy. Is that unless i'm reading this wrong. This is the first time that i read ortiz. Junior will be aboard and in my mind on in a race. Where positioning on the turf is going to be key for intimacy. There just is nobody better right now than i ortiz. I expect him to have her in the right spot and find the right spot trying to pass these speed mar phillies and mirrors in front of him. I think it's gonna go on and get the win in the giant's causeway yeah. I don't think you said anything wrong. They are Carrick wesley ward. Who always has a great team in meat. He's having a very good meet again. This philly has run sporadically on the turf of i who turf races in this country. With victories she tried the matron. She tried to stewart manor. A couple to six. We haven't seen a lot of carrick in fact since november tenth of twenty nine thousand nine. We've only seen her twice. She galloped in a race on valentine's day last year at turf talk on the all weather than they ran an off the turf race in the summer of churchill downs where she show speed and tired main track looks beer achilles heel. She seems to be fine on turf. So i'm going to give her one more chance. Intimate six top pick. I would not be surprised to see character run. Well you mentioned a good deal of speed in here. Whenever jakarta shows up l. z's here man z. I if one of the to scratch. I think you gotta use the other. But they're both in here man. They almost have to hit up front. So the close of the ads. Like bobby does into mystic character for me. One seven in race eight the giant's causeway race number nine. Here's the lexington stonestreet lexington grade three twenty derby points to the winner. Twenty eight four two mile and a sixteenth as far as a derby goes. There's only two horses that really would be able to move forward dad Who got twenty points via his third place finish in the jeff ruby stakes. Just two weeks ago he gets married gutierrez to fly in for his man doug o'neil he would need to win to have forty and get him into starting eight twenty eight would put him on the bubble and it's not really a bubble you'd wanna get in if he ran second and proxy proxies kind of already in trainer mike's them and godolphin of said look. Let's see what he does on saturday. The beauty of keeneland moving the race back three weeks as opposed to the old two weeks is it gives you a little bit of an option to not go. Bang your head against the horse's like concert tour and caddo river and hosur and what is normally a bigger field in the arkansas derby. Grab these twenty points grabbed the eight points. Even if he runs second. I think bobby you need to see obviously a win from hockey. Dad put a dazzling performance from proxy to get either one of them into the derby. I would not be surprised. Though if this race is being used as a preakness prep for some. I think everything you said is true and boy. What a long strange trip hockey. Dad has taken us. Far he went from debut in sprinting on the dirt at santa anita against cowbridge to sprinting. On the turf ended up routing on the turf he routed on the synthetic surface and now for the first time he'll be routing on conventional dirt and he's run well in just about all his starts. I personally don't think he's run well enough to win. This race is going to have to run better But he's obviously a very versatile horse. There's no doubt about it. That proxy has the best resume coming in. He's been running in the best races. He's been running pretty well against the best competition and he. He looks like he's logical in this spot. I don't think he's overwhelmingly better than this field though. And he's probably going to be four to five. I think there are horses. That are trying stakes competition for the first time in stretching out for the first time. That are both interesting and those would be inside. Two runners number one noble reflection number two swift shore. Both of them coming off sprint victories. At oaklawn in their most recent starts swisher is actually gotten a maiden win and an allowance to his credit. Noble reflection coming off an impressive wire-to-wire maiden win last time out. I'm gonna try noble reflection. He's fifteen two one on the morning line. he's by liam's map out of tis now air. It sounds to me like he's bread to be better going long than short and he was real good last time going short. I think he might just get out and go with. How are castellano from the inside post. I don't know if he's going to be able to take them all the way. I don't know if anyone is going to be pressing him. There are some other horses in here who can show some speed. But i think noble reflection with that inside post is just gonna go and if they let him go he's gonna take him along at fifteen two one. I would give him a shot. Yeah i want the asmussen horse right next door. The to swift shore first time rhetoric keys source won both of his sprint. Samedan win fairgrounds on allowance win at oaklawn park. We haven't seen now for ten weeks son of uncle mo out of a spy town there mile and a half a mile half mile and a sixteenth shouldn't be an issue. I would imagine noble reflections going to go from the inside and era just going to try and follow him and save some ground. The it's my house has some speed. Bezos has some speed other than that. It looks like the two inside. Horses should have the run of the race. Look see if noble reflection can repeat that performance. he's a big price. I don't think he'll be that big. I don't think it'll be fifteen two one those they'll be a big price. I don't think basil's will be eight to one either. Basil be four to one. I mean everybody loves the source. I thought the interesting course roxie can win. I will be interesting horse in this race. Was king fury. This is the worst mcpeek has made sure to run. Long just ran a mile and a sixteenth five times as a two year old and keep in mind that was from derby week. September third through november twenty eighth. So think about that five races at a mile and sixteen in the span of less than three months he. He broke his maiden and one the st sense. He was the borders of the three races. They were against essential quality and the brewers for charity where he was only seven one. He finished seventh in the breeders cup. Juvenile behind the central quality did not have the greatest trip he only got eleven lengths and last time the blinky them up he made a very early. Move to the lead from a wide draw. Got tiredly now. The blinkers off. We haven't seen them in a while. She's training okay. Blair's office a nice move for coming with peaks. Born i kink fury's really interesting. I picked the number two swiftsure to win it. But i think king fury is going to run a big one in fact over vegas insider. I'm making a little bit of a triple in here. The plan playing his two seven nine seven nine all and i'm hoping to get a two nine hundred nine to home. I think it's an interesting race. We'll see what happens. As far as derby and the preakness and the belmont stakes go triple. Crown implications will save this lexin. Greet three twenty three points on the line. Well as two hundred thousand it goes race nine tomorrow. At keeneland we'll wrap up to keeneland action with the coolmore guinea wiley grade. One three hundred thousand mile and a sixteenth field of just six. But i'll tell you what the inside forerunners. I had a hard time making a case. For maximum rate the five to six those inside. Four runners michelin tama. Here juliet foxtrot twat all have licensed to win this. Pull more jenny. While i'm gonna take it even further than that buddy. I think all six have a chance in here and i'm going to pick number five maximum rate on top the thing i don't like about maximum rate which i don't like about most from this field is that there's just not a lot of speed in here and juliet fox trot might find herself on the lead by herself but for some reason. I don't know if it's just bring meat. Compared to the fall meet at keeneland the speed has been not so great on the turf. This meet at kaylynn and we've seen runners who've gotten leads going fairly easily still get overhauled and not overhauled. Barely overhauled easily In on this turf. So i think it's going to play fine for these phillies and mayors coming from off the pace maximum rate to starts back in the grade. Two gold cova at santa anita was awesome. She was two to one that day and she sat a trip three and a half lengths off the pace and blitz by him. Down the lane to win going away covered the mile and a swift one. Thirty three and four then. She tried tough field in the matriarch that included juliet foxtrot and moreover included via dera. And she didn't get the job done but she was eight to one that day. She was only beaten to lights. It wasn't like she ran a poor race. She's been off for a while now. Return for simon callaghan. Who's had her in training Since at least mid january she shows eleven works since returning to the work tab. So i think she's going to be fit and ready to go. She gets her regular rider and umberto risk and to me. Maximum rates race in the gold. Cova is good enough to beat this field and she's tend to one. I'm gonna try a little. Bit of a shocker. In the jenny wiley well that would be. That'd be a little bit of a little bit. More of a shocker than anything else I think it'll be a big shock to be honest with you I don't know. I think i tama here. Made a lot of sense. I race in the. Us was really good I know it wasn't going straight three year old. And then they sent their out west as she ran into via darren blowout and juliette fox. Rotten and truth be told. I don't want to forty five and some change but going a mile really fast out in california and she gets a better setup here because she'll be this race figures to on fold more to her liking. I think the sixteenth of a mile is going to play nicely into her hands It's a ride. You mentioned you don't really want speed. She has the right kind of style. i dunno. I thought i know you can make a case for the other shoes. And i'll tell you what i i don't know if michelle leans and just not the most talented much one one out of the bunch. She's got a goodrich second hobbies little on island in eighth in the qa to challenge cup last year. She wanted knowing long she got the job done in the hillsborough on amount of neath her biggest might be the mount of sixteen might not be enough ground. So i'm gonna take time here feeling that it's horror michelin yeah. Julia foxtrot has racist toiling. Probably it's probably need some more ground. So i'm gonna go with a little to one here. Tammy here over michelin. i'll use both in the pit foreign. Pick five come back a little stronger with tammy year ten goes to coolmore more jenny. Wiley humans all routes when we come back. it's all oaklawn. We got three stakes coming up in this segment including the rematch between whitmore and ceesay rocket in that count fleet strength. You're listening to the weekend. Screw view presented by naira. Bats here on hr in that and watch the races worldwide. From the palm of your hand with nyra bets. Sign up for nyra bets today. Take advantage of premier perks with the best live racing. Mincer replays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every. Bet sign up for nyra bets today with the promo code. Hr in two hundred and iron deposit match bonus show hundred dollars again. That's hr in two hundred with nirex. Bet you can bet any track anywhere. 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The trainers listen to trainer talk presented by stacey tipton only on n el dorado and i listened to hr and this is the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets sees. The rocket is in fourth diamond hoops and lasting legacy move as a team to the center of the track echo talent and manny wa instant traffic looking toward the inside. She asked her friends. Police here comes. Empire gold on the outside of that one eco town. An awkward moved there ceesay rocket his moving on the upside. Here's whitmore here's went more. Here's whitmore here's four striding forward for the lead in the final readers. Props breads in the career of this seven year old with four a-rod ortiz. Junior pep won the breeders cup sprint in one minute. Eight point six. One second. Own kurt becker on the call of the breeders cups rent whitmore getting the job done a fantastic stories such a cool horse. A horse that Man everybody just seems to love it. All went more getting it done last year in the fall up at keeneland he'll head down to his winter. Base his favor track arguably for this count fleet sprint though. How many in a row and how many sources one in his career welcome back to the weekend stakes created presented by bets here on h. r. n. Oaklawn park the site of the derby bankroll builder this weekend. Final one of the year had over two naira bets dot com open a new account. Hr to hundreds to promo code that you hundred gets you hundred. You can play that derby bankroll builder. All you have to do is but fifty dollars or more to win on the app. Your horse you think's gonna win in arkansas derby tomorrow and we look at twenty bucks back in time for the derby that money gets the positive positive thursday april twenty nine has an ira bets. Dot com for more details. Cross-country pick five tomorrow america's day at the races as well take a listen Take a look over at narrow. Bets dot com all right. The carousel kicks off the stakes. Action oaklawn six furlongs race number six four the phillies and masters field of six francs. Rocket comes in off a win. The american beauty back in january over the course seventy five favorite bill for floor drew in fact. Is the only horse bills. Run at oaklawn. This meat edge. Way was a big winner of an allowance race out of santa anita in february for john sadler and joel rosario and casual has duked it out all fall and winter churchill remington oaklawn second to kamari in the spring fever last time for asmussen and santana again Three outside one is for you to take a bulk of the money. In the carousel quarter million dollar purse and an ungraded stake. I would think that that would have to change starting in twenty twenty two especially if one of those outside three gets the job done. I think franks rocket is the philly to beat in this spot Belmont flora giroux. Except when she runs against boys she's pretty tough to beat in fact she's been first or second. All eleven starts when running against the ladies her our loan poor effort if you will was trying the boys in the breeder's cup sprint. Against the girl. She's won five races in a row. She can go to the front she can stop the pace And as long as she doesn't get into some sort of a dual maybe with the philly just to or outside edge way I think franks rocket is going to be very very tough. I have all the respect the world for both edge and casual. Because i really don't think they're far behind francs rocket but it's tough to fault. Franks rocket when she just does nothing but good things in the right spots. Yeah can't disagree. I want to try and get edgy. Out of the number. That is ray swallow. It was good it was you know she was supposed to do last time. I want a four six years. He can burn off a little energy chasing after franks rocket and casual. Come pick up the pieces for second. So i'm going to try a four six in here. Franks rocket over casual six. Goes as the carousel good and races on the car tomorrow at oaklawn as well race. Eight is the oakland raiders. Nine rather is the oaklawn mile. Four hundred thousand online short stretch of the mile run for the older horses field of nine. The return of by my standards on last seen. He was running off the board in both british classic. And then the clark. He returned from where calhoun gave sayas pioneer spirit. First off the clean for mike maker rucci returns to oakland having money allowance here last winter wells by youth third in louisiana usual cast here in. I think it's between by my standards. Rushy in this spot and i both think they're going to get the right trip. There is plenty of speed in this one mile. Farewells by you. We know that he tries for the lead blackberry. Wine is a horse who needs to be on the lead or pressing the pace. Pioneer spirits never far out at home base. i. I don't see how homebase could contend unless he's basically right up there on the lead with this tough cast of characters so it's for russia and by my standards. I think both going to get some pace to run out. I think they both have a big chance in here. I think by my standard is the better horse and you know. He just didn't. He did not run well in the breeders cup classic and i just i don't know if it was the result of the end of a long campaign or the the comp was too tough i mean let's face it he's facing authentic and improbable and maximum security and global campaign and his the law and he just didn't run very well and then he came back twenty days later in the clark in that move that i absolutely despise these breeders cup runners almost as an afterthought comeback. Well we can just come back. There's another race before the year's over and they were all cranked up for the breeders cup and now they're not all cranked up for the next race and he ran poorly once again because he should never be losing to a horse. Like bodey express. I think the clark is is a toss outrace on paper breeders cup classic just in run. Well he's been freshened up. He looks like he's working. Faster as return bret. Calhoun very capable of getting them ready off layoffs and i just think by my standards is going to get the trip and gonna go by. I love how. I don't know if i know anyone has passionate about anything as you are with the the breeders cup you hate you just hate it. You cannot stand that run in the breeders that run back afterwards. I for the most part for the most part. I'm with you It's not it's just within that same right next month month and a half because it just doesn't seem like i mean they're definitely not using the breeders cup as a prep for that race at the end of the year and imagine they'd be anymore cranked up and fit for that other race than they were for the breeders cup and they're almost always favored and if they lose. They're losing more than half of the time which they are. You know some of them get the job done but there are so many of them that lose short prices it just. It's mind boggling. I've gotta tell you. I absolutely i i mean i absolutely positively a love. Love love a horse in the oakland mile. And i mean you probably know who it is. Because i don't use that word often anymore. You love russia. I love russia in here. I mean you wanna talk about a horse that wants the mile and the to turn mile race at oaklawn last year in the mound six keefe he was probably stretched at the mar on sixteen mile and an eighth races aren't bad but he really doesn't wanna go that far. You look at the mile race that he breaks his maiden it then he runs behind charlotte then he wins. Sixteen all right. Forget the two mile races but even the mile an eighth when russia's three eight horses that have won the races that he hasn't running thousand words graded stakes winner shaalan grade rated stakes winner raid one winner. Honorary p grade one winner art collector great to win a swiss skydiver was second preakness winner knicks. Go he's no offense that arrested these horses none of those horses. I mean if this race was knicks. Go he's useless team. Art collector swiss skydiver. If honoree pain authentic it stayed in training and challa them by my standards would be thirty. Two one. this horse would be forty two one so and he's getting four lancs six weeks he's gonna. He's got tactical speed. He'll probably follow wells by you out of there. I think silver states waiting for the oakland park handicap. Next week i was. I was gonna say let's overstates not here I love the source tomorrow. Absolutely love this worst. Be single than everything all about rushing from me rates nine goes as the oak on mile and before we head to break its whitmore. It's easy rocket it's the count. Fleet sprint goes race number. Eleven grade three six furlongs tell you what. It's war against easy rocket but there are a couple other real fast horses in this race. No parole breaks from the rail. They tried to turf last time. We did not break it all for tom. Amos he draws the inside ramon vasquez gonna ride for the first time and strike power. Joel rosario war what santana riding whitmore power is a horse that for three years. They've been waiting for this was to come around. He's run well. Two of his three starts. Four steve asmussen got the job. Done ricardo santana. Junior used the inside bias. It oakland to his advantage last time when he alternated on the lead with second place. Finisher hollis. now he's taken a big step up in class. But i was going to climb aboard. I don't know if he can find the lead by himself with horses like With horses like no parole in here but mistake power is always been cut out to be a nice horse maybe now at the age of six a full wars. Maybe he's finding himself. I think this is more than a rematch of the hot springs. I think you're right. And the fact that no parole is in the race is one of the big reasons. Because he's the quickest one out there. They tried him. Sprinting on the turf. Last time out didn't work very well. But his sprints on dirt are very very good. I think he's a little faster than strike. Power mr jager. Meister by the way Whitmore you mentioned. He's won this race three times. You want it and seventeen. Eighteen and twenty second mottley in two thousand nineteen his His only defeat in the counseling. He was not able to hold off ceesay rocket in the hot springs. Last time out. And i don't think he's going to be able to hold off ceesay rocket once again in the count fleet. I think ceesay rockets. I think i said this exact thing before the hot springs ceesay rockets. Good races are better than whitmore's good races and it looks like cece. Rocket is back in good form and if that happens i think he's better than this field. They're both gonna get plenty of pace to run at Rocket once again. He beat what more last time and he may not be favored once again tomorrow in the count fleet. I won't. i'm taking power. I'm taking shot against both of them. I'm taking the young and the six year old over the seventy year old. I'm gonna take strike power last time. Power wasn't on all out. Send the first start for us. Back in november. He was able to rate. This is something he never was able to do in his old barn. He can now so. I'm wondering if rosario breaks plays break you know no parole did not break well last time if that happens again strike power can find himself on the lead in here because you're going to see their mojo man and you're going to see mr strike powers faster than the mo jo man. Mr yeager meister you. I'm worried about no parole but maybe just off no parole. No parole comes off the bed. Break the turf try. Gimme strike power in my pick fours and fives. I'll use war strike power and ncc rockets cover myself. I'm gonna come back with an extra ticket which strike power and really try and things up here. you're on. The lewis is trained on with manual. Rosario at all times strike power for me to upset the great three count fleet sprint. It goes race eleven at oklahoma break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the arkansas derby. Bobby i'll throw some ideas around about this three year old picture. Which is this is one of the more muddled three year old pictures. I can remember in a very long time taking away last year. Of course with All the post woman's of the races and the moving the schedule this is a wild year. We'll see how it finishes on the derby trail tomorrow and we'll talk about that. All can saw derby the last points race on the road to louisville in twenty twenty one. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by nyerere bats here on the horse racing radio network and watch the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with nyerere bets. Sign up for nyra today. Take advantage of from your perks with the best live. Racing minster replays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every. Bet sign up for nyra bets today with the promo code. Hr in two hundred and iron deposit match bonus rope the shoe hundred dollars again. That's hr in two hundred with nyra. Bet you can bet any track anywhere at any time. Head over to an ira. Bax dot com. 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Who still has laid coming into the vital for long pump. The royal the blue grass pilot motivated with the advantage. A central quality is still driving on the outside passed a sixty four highly motivated talk. Quality shale remain unbeaten central quality fort. Louis is he the favorite four with twenty twenty one talking. Sergio quality job done stayed undefeated. Face the stiffest test of his career to date when running down the motivated in a thrilling stretch. One of the bluegrass of keen. One last saturday kentucky derby one forty seven just three weeks away will it be him or will it be concert. Tore your even when he favorite in tomorrow's arkansas even on the morning line welcome back to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by narrow bats here on. Hr kickoff your saturday morning with equine forum. Eight to eleven am eastern time. Mike pence has you covered all of the saturday action. All right bobby arkansas derby last button on murphy's code as they would say hundred points on the line one hundred forty two second so first or second you're pretty much in Great one million dollars the gerber points mile and an eighth just a field of six concert tours even money from post five. That was second in the rebel tool hosur. Stablemate another bob baffert trainee. He's three to one caddo river. They took him off. The lead is the sixty five favorite in that rebel. It did not work out well. They've been pretty public about the fact that there will be no taking caddo river off the lead tomorrow. He'll be on the church on the front end on the bill. Daley whatever you wanna call it. Does that change anything in the arkansas. Or while i'm gonna disagree when they say that they took him off the lead last time out. What i think happened was that joel. Rosario took flora's rudy school going into the first turn joel. Rosario on concert tour broke on the money and he sent and just took it to caddo river in florence jew and put them both in a place they did not want to be and it caused them to kind of change their course and try to do something that maybe they didn't wanna do and that left concert tour on the lead basically by himself most of the way and he just kicked it into another gear and proved that he was much better than that field in the rebel in the arkansas derby. You mentioned he's facing basically the same runners that he faced in the rebel. One new come in the field last. Samurai who to be perfectly honest doesn't look like he has much of a chance at winning the arkansas derby my honest opinion is there isn't one race that any of these other five have ever run. That could beat any of the three graces. Concert tour has run in his career so if he runs his race. One of these others is really going to have to move forward to get the win. Concert tour showed in the second start albeit at seven furlongs. He can still run well when not getting the lead and tracking from the outside. He got up to win over freedom fighter in the chosen for on that day. The shows brown came right back in one in his next start. I think that's probably the triple get. Because i that forearm giroux will be hell bent as they say on getting caddo river to the front and i don't think that joel rosario and concert terrible mind even one little bit. I think they'll track from the outside. Put cattle river away turning for home and go on to win. I would probably try to get one of the closers up for second once again whether it be hosur superstock or get her number. So i'm going to give cavalry one more chance at a big price. 'cause i think he'll be a big price a bigger price certainly than concert tour. The horse i want to try and get out of the numbers hosier who i think kind of just found everything goes way last time he i was believer that that track was playing inside for a while he kind of just stayed inside when the run when when when concert tour ran away from those horses he kind of just sucked up the inside and he found the best part of the racetrack. Maybe they'll have again I think in a smaller field on a fair racetrack it. It's not going to matter as much. i think. Super stocks better than hosur I think superstock can get into this number. I think superstars and interesting. You and i talk about this yesterday. If at any point concert tour gets that elite. He's probably gonna win this race whether it's when the gate opens while at the whole He's probably in this race. Superstock is the only interesting runner in here to me. I don't want hosmer. I would want superstock if you're looking to to try to split these favorites in here. You're not gonna wanna play. Kyle river over concert tour and quite frankly for caddo river to win. I think that means concert tour didn't want to chase him and i can see superstock. Picking them up late. I think there's a better chance at this race running to five and there is running five two if that makes any sense I'm rather a chance to running five. To than i do running to five. Because i think you know there's a chance that he just goes by cattle river. Nobody picks them up. I can see concert tour kinda spin his wheels. Because i want see him do it again and i want to see him. Do it going a distance. I know we went to my on sixteenth last time. But he really had things on way. I've never been a fan of this source if he does it again. This horse can make me a believer. Because i'll tell you what we have a couple of minutes left here. In fact time now for i cattle river kong now for the naira batch best map this is the naira beds. Best bat taken away. I'm going to go in the same fashion that you did last week with picking gamine to win the las flores. I will pay concert tour to remain undefeated win. The arkansas derby is my bet actually took drain the clock to win the bayshore. I'll go. I'm going to go back to the oakland mile. I love russia tomorrow russia. Whatever you love you call him right. We got a few. We got a couple of minutes. Left here Concert can win the over tomorrow and contract with me over to the point where he might be doors. I picking the derby depending on what he does. Tomorrow i've never been a fan. I'm looking for a horse to have a breakout performance I don't think we've seen a breakout before it's even rock your world. He went to the lead. He beat a couple of horses. That probably don't wanna step past a mile and a sixteenth in medina spirit and I can't even remember the name of the of of the peter wars dream dream shake So i i want to see him run well but i wanna see him do it again. Okay and if he doesn't let's face it if he he's the only one who has a chance aside from central quality of being the favorite in the kentucky derby. That's concert tour. That doesn't say that those are the only two that can win. Obviously rock your world and and all these other one you know there. There are plenty of unknown agenda and highly motivated there. Plenty of horses out there. They'd have a chance to win the kentucky derby but as far as being favored in the kentucky derby it's essential quality or concert tour. If concert tour runs well again. Tomorrow agreed agreed. You know it's the wild wild thing is what's it concentrate doesn't run well tomorrow or something happens along the way to either of the two favorites in the next three weeks a horse. That's run one race on the dirt is likely. Be your second choice rock. Your world has to be the third choice right now right. I'm not sure i mean known. Agenda was very impressive in his florida. Derby win and for a for a trainer that is much more nationally renowned and todd. pletcher. So i would. I could see him being the third choice right now. All right well it'll be curious to see how it all shakes out the kentucky derby trail road to louisville anyway ends tomorrow in the lexington at qinglin beyond so derby park naira pets.com. Has you covered or his day covered as well. bobby's off. Next week he will return for the weekend stakes preview and for racing on friday. Enjoy the time off. Man appreciate it. Buddy bobby newman and lethal weapon on the big anthony. Still hope lucky night. I hope you went all your photo. Finishes don't forget tomorrow morning. Forum starts at eight. Am eastern time to talk to you then. Gray weekend everyone.

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TimeformUS Forecast | Episode 70 | April 9, 2021

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TimeformUS Forecast | Episode 70 | April 9, 2021

"Hi everyone welcome to the april ninth edition of the time formulas forecast. I'm david arrogant. I'll be joined in just a moment by my co host. Craig makovsky this week on the podcast. The focuses on those final kentucky derby preps as the derby trail winds down. after saturday. we'll have the field basically set for the kentucky. Derby as far as points qualification goes. We'll see if there are any defections in the upcoming weeks but we should have the final additions to the race. Likely coming from the arkansas derby. That's the major point. Prep with one hundred points going to the winner of that race. But there's also the lexington stakes on saturday at keeneland. That's the far more interesting race. Ra- handicapping standpoint though less likely to produce ended kentucky derby starters but we've got some really intriguing under cards on both of those Race tracks with oakland offering the oaklawn mile as well as the count fleet. We'll talk about both of those races. In addition to the arkansas derby and then at keeneland on the lexington undercard they're also reading the sprint race for the affiliate mayors which is the giant's causeway as the grade one jenny wiley a small but select field of runners fillies and mares going a mile and a sixteenth on the turf but craig. The focuses on those two kentucky derby. Perhaps the arkansas derby probably not so interesting for my handicapping standpoint. But i take the lexington is a really fascinating race. Yeah i think that's one of the better. Betting races on the cards are so many different directions. Gca go of different angles. She could play in there so Yeah that's one of the favorites. It's i'm glad to see it because a couple of the reece's came up unusually disappointing for king. We usually get a lot pretty much. Always big fields for their stakes races. But the lexington certainly didn't disappoint. Well we'll get to keeneland and a little bit but let's start things off in arkansas at oaklawn with three races all stakes from that car. We're going to begin with race nine. That is the oakland mile going one mile on the main track there. And we've got a pretty intriguing field of runners with a lot of quality drawn towards the center of the pack beginning with the number six by my standards. Who's the slight favourite on the morning. Line now no doubt by my standards is the classiest horse in this race. Having won the grade two allie sheba last year finished second in the grade one whitney but he ended his twenty twenty campaign on a bit of a sour note. So i think there are some questions about what kind of form he's coming back off the layoff. Yeah i would agree with that. I mean it's a big field nine. There's a fast pace Predicted on the pace projector. And it's hard to argue with that when you look at the pcp's just at a quick glance to see horses like wells by you and blackberry wine who basically only have one way to go in really when you look through the entire field. There's no true closers in here. They're all horses that have some speed or at least good tactical speed and i think. That's a big problem for blackberry wine. He's a horse you show not. I mean not for pipe very behind for by my standards. He's actually shown dead last by quite a bit on the pace projector and he's a horse. Ooh just he can't run that way. I we seen him try in a couple of his bigger efforts and he just gave it up through the lane in the car and the classic last year and he was a horse. Both of us had a lot of question marks about last year because he A lot of his reputation was made in racist with very slow pace where he was able to sit close in finish. And i think that's a problem here i. It wouldn't shock me if he won. Because i mean he does have the best speed figures in the field when he runs his races. But i'm certainly going to try to beat him. I think he's gonna get back quite a bit more than that. Five to to to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised. Fees in the seventy five rain. So i'm gonna look elsewhere the divorce i eventually landed on his actually only the second choice on the morning on. But i have my doubts about that. I went with rushie and for me. It's or julia a jockey. Bet as i mentioned there are any real closures in this race. Rushie isn't particularly one. Either though he wins from he has one from off the pace. It's not like he's coming from the clouds. But i just think joel rosario rides these racist perfectly when the piece is going to be fast. I think russia will be able to adapt. I do think you'll be more than three to one morning. I see other horses taken more money than him including blackberry wine wells by by you. So we'll see how the bedding goes in that can always sway things but in a wide open race. I i'm gonna take a horse. It's coming from office. Yeah we'll see. How much of an effect drivers joel rosario has. Because it seems like he's winning basically every stakes around the country during twenty twenty one so far and he is writing russia in this race. That could drive down his price a little bit though. Just based on the two horses craig. I would tend to agree with you that by my standards just based on reputation is likely to take a bit more money in here we see this race very similarly. I'm not surprised. I like russia as well. He ran well to win. That pat day mile last year at this distance. That was around. One turn this is a to turn race. But he's handled to turns just fine. The past even going longer distances. That might really not be his preferred trip and he was off. The board lasted out in that breeders cup mile but watching back that race. I think he ran a lot better than that. Seventh-place finish would indicate because there was a rough run into the first heard. He was squeezed back a little bit as a horse's tried to get over from the outside. But that short run into the clubhouse turn and he was probably farther back that he wanted to be in that race but he launched a wide run coming around the far turn and breeders cup mile keeneland race. That is run for the most part around. There's very few very little straightaway in that race. And he lost a lot of ground coming around the turn in that race was actually a finishing on decently at the end there so i just think he's a horse. That really could take step forward as a four year old. And while mike mccarthy doesn't have the greatest numbers coming off layoffs just based on this horses worked at it seems like he's got him cranked up for this race just going back to march twentieth. That forty six flatwork. That was a bullet santa anita that was in company with his top older mayor. Cece and it looked like russia was going a little better than her in that workout on c. is very good Workhorse in her own. Right so i just think rusty looks like he's coming into this race ready to run and this seems like the right kind of spot for him to get a favorable trip so i landed on russia as well as for the others. I mean i think blackberry wide is a horse that you have to consider just based on how well he ran at this distance last time as you were pointing out. I think there's a lot more pace in this race and that could create some problems for blackberry wine but when he matched up against wells by the louisiana stakes earlier in the year. wells. By you let blackberry wine ghulam that set the peso if a similar scenario plays out here. I think blackberry wine can be dangerous. But he's a horse. That really is most effective. When he's on the lead. Yeah and he would be my second pick in here. If he was five the one morning line i might even consider him. I don't think there was anything fluky about that. Big one twenty five speed. Figari rang last time at the same distance. In course okay. No problem with him at all. I just think it's a race. I have to take a shot against by my standards. Because i seem to always be against this core horse because of all the great trips got last year in the end he you know he i just don't think he he's really up against it because i think the pace project their nails it. I don't know if it'll be deadly asked. Show just think it shows. It's a real problem for him that he could find himself in mid pack and that's just not what he likes to do. Yeah just one more note on by my stand retweeted and really touch upon. I agree with everything you said. Craig and i will also note that the comment line in his last race blocked upper and altered out if you didn't watch the race. I think some people might assume from that that he had a bad trip. He didn't have a bad trip. Gabriel's has got him into a good spot. He was a little off the rails out but he had every chance to be effective in that race and was just behind horses because he was backing up in the stretch. So i just thought that was kind of a poor effort from him and he'll have to do a lot better he could because he's got back races at a short price like you. I'm just a little skeptical moving onto the eleventh race at oak lawn. That is the grade. Three count fleet sprint handicap. And we've got a rematch of the hot springs as well as a rematch of the breeder's cup sprint. Actually the one to four finishers from last year's breeder's cup sprint are all in this race but the two main players are obviously the horses that around the exact in both of those races those are last year sprint champion whitmore as well as ceesay rocket who turn the tables on him last time in the hot springs and we're gonna see what kind of trips each of them work out here because there is plenty of pace in this race in both of these horses are proficient coming from off the pace last time whitmore made the first move and got the jump on ceesay rock and it turned out that was just a race where the last move was the most successful. I wonder if the same thing will play out this time because ceesay rocket just does seem like a naturally faster. Horse than whitmore yeah. I think it's an interesting call. I it's a good field of seven. There's no label and the pace projector but it was really close. I was surprised when i saw horses like no parole. Strike power in empire of gold over. Who led the breeders cup after a half mile last year but it just barely missed. So i think the piece is going to be so edin unfortunately or depending how you look at it but as a better unfortunately it sets it up for the two favorites pretty clearly in whitmore and ceesay rocket. I think it's their race the lose and it's just gonna come down to which of the two you like a personally i. I'm going to give the slight edge. The cd rocket mitch this based on the post positions. I think he can sit outside and just kind of track. What's going on and and move forward if he needs to. But i just envisioned sim or trips. Last time i went more is drawn. Down inside if he waits. It's always possible. He's gonna get shuffled back with all the speed and here. So i just think the post gives. Cd rocket a enough of nejib. I'll make my top pick in here. If the posts were reversed. I let picks. Yeah i think it's a close call between these two was well. I do think they're the two most likely winners in this race. I actually gave the slight edge to whitmore. Seems like a horse to me. That is very comfortable running inside of horses. Actually based on some of his big wins. That's is preferred trip to make that inside out move so i like that. He's drawn inside in this race. And i just feel like the pace. Projector is going to play out the way that it looks with cece rocket as long as he breaks better this time because he was a little slowly away in hot springs. I think he'll be in front of whitmore early. And i would anticipate that this time with is going to be the one making the last move and that could be the successful move once again in this count fleet so i'm going to give the slight edge to whitmore assuming that they're very similar prices as for the others. I mean empire of gold is a little bit interesting but he's coming back off a long layoff out of that breeders cup where he did run really well. He led the field amid stretch and he did kind of fall apart in the final furlong. But that's a race. That was coming apart a little bit at the end and as a three year old last year he just a really good. At the end of the season it turns out that that phoenix performance was no fluke because he backed it up once again in the breeders cup. I don't really know too much about this trainer and how he does come back off. The stats are are mediocre at best. But this was the worst that really came around at the end of last year. So i wouldn't be surprised if he could take another step forward as a four year old. I mean he'd be the only one that i would consider a potential upset. But i do think that the two favorites are more likely winners of this race. Yeah i agree with you on empire gold. I think he's just speed of the speed even though we don't have shown up there him. And no perot why. I think those two will will really go at it early. And i think he's probably the better of the two based on what we've seen from no parole lately but in any case i think any of these speed horses are going to have a hard time holding off really quality closers like what more and cg racket i do want to ask you about those two other speed horses you briefly did touch upon no parole but also strike power. Who has plenty of early speed is in this race. And he's coming off a big performance whether you're in the one thousand time formula speed your last time actually a one twenty three final time number which was knocked down a little bit due to the slow pace. I mean they're both horses that are capable of running big figures when the wrap their best. But i just wonder if you have a take on if they're going to be knocked out by a by a quick pace. Yeah that's the way. I see it. I mean power. He's always done his best when things are go. His own. Way with bone fractions. We seen that way back to his maiden win and that's what he did in his last win and there aren't a whole lot of wins in between so his horse. You're usually runs well. But he just doesn't seem to get the job done unless he gets his way up front. And it's just really hard to envision that happening with two super high fast horses in no parole and empire of gold. yeah. I have very similar feelings about them. My watched each of their victories this year. No parole who wanna delta down stakes race back in february and power who won that allowance race in march and. I think those are racist. That are much less impressive. When you watch the replays then they might look on paper. Power got a big for that last race. But i think some of the horses that raced in behind him. Just they ve regressed since then not saying the figures rog races. It appears and no parole even though he won by three lengths says the one to ten favorite at delta downs. I'd advise your watch that race if you like it here because he had to work a lot harder than i would have liked to be vastly inferior field so i just feel like maybe. He's not the horse that he once was as a three year old. So for both of us. It's the favorites in the count. Fleet moving onto you. The arkansas derby grade one feature race at oakland on saturday the final derby. Prep taking place in arkansas this year and the final dirty prep. It's taking place in the country before the kentucky derby on the first saturday in may and we're gonna have heavy favourite in this spot in concert tour. This race is basically just a rematch of the rebel as five horses. Coming out of the rebel are five of the six runners in this race and concert toward just dusted the last time and as long as it gets the extra sixteenth of a mile. He's going to be pretty tougher. This field to handle watching that race attardo imagine he wouldn't have got the extra sixteenth of a mile. I mean he was still moving away from the field at that point so for me. It's a race on properly. Just gonna watch. I'm not going to try to be concert tour in here. He just looks too good. I i know some people have tried to make a case for caddo river saying he got a bad ride last time and it. And i mean i guess. I can't argue with that. I'm a guy who likes aggressive tactics and did kind. See the lead. But i just don't see how it would've made any difference if he went to the dodd concert door was just gonna sit office flank in put them away anyway in my opinion so i didn't think had that much a caddo river going into the rebels. So i'm not gonna make any excuses for him. Because the i just don't think he ran all that well Hoosier he's moving in the right direction for bob baffert but he seems more like a third string type about baffert horse not even second-string. It wouldn't shock me if he ran second. But there's no real value in in that opinion. either. So i'm just gonna watch try to evaluate concert tour and fully expect to win pretty easily. I think both things are true about. Caddo river i think he did resent the rating tactics a little bit last time. I also think he didn't run that well in the rebel. I mean he should have finished better in that race. Even after fighting the rider a little bit nearly going. And i'm not as convinced about him getting the mile and an eighth as i concert tour. I mean i think you can have questions about both of these horses. But cadeau rivers shown more natural speed and his races. And and i'm not so convinced that he's necessarily going to go on love island and eight so i just concert tour was so impressive. Last time i went on xp tv. And i watched some of his work. Since then. And i mean he's looked like a monster coming into this race his last workout on april third when he went to six furlongs one. Twelve and four. I took out the stop. Watch them coming into the stretch because it looked like he was flying. I got him coming home. The quarter through the lane and twenty two and one that worked out that that's just really moving for six furlong workout at the end of it and it just feels like this is probably going to win. I wonder if he wins this race. Really impressively what to make of moving onto the kentucky derby because he'll do so without a ton of seasoning having won some of the weakest prep races that we've seen just in terms of depth even if he runs faster speed figures. I don't think that beating up on horses like caddo river in hosmer and freedom fighter necessarily are going to prepare you to be successful in the kentucky derby but this works does have a ton of talent. Yeah it's gonna be interesting if assuming he does win. I think it's gonna come down to the speed figure. If fee runs a one twenty five from us and more importantly as far as the waiter and goes to one of five from buyer he could easily wind up being the favourite here. Just because i mean it's bob baffert. He's won a ton of derby's a fast number. But i still have some question. Marks gazette said the essence. Really face much yet. And you know we'll see it'll be interesting to see who actually finally makes it to the starting gate. We still have three home weeks. We've already started seeing some defections in greatest honor. So it's something. I try not to look too far ahead but i'm with you. Big performance urine. He could easily be favored company First saturday in yeah. I'll be very interested to see how that all plays out because concert tours. The horse that i was a little skeptical of earlier in the year. And i've kind of come around a little bit. I think he's actually does have plenty of talent but he's gotta run a big number in the arkansas derby to be considered one of the favorites for the kentucky derby and a few weeks. Let's move onto keeneland where we're also discuss three stakes races. The first of those is race eight. It's the giant's causeway going five and a half furlongs on the turf for the phillies and mayors and we're likely to have a favorite drawn town down towards the inside and the number one into mystic. Who has written by rod ortiz. Coming out for brendon walsh. this philly. During her four year old season ran really well against horse horse. Got store be lost a close decision to her over this course in the buffalo trace last year she actually surprisingly set the pace and the breeders cup turf sprint against the males didn't rumble nat race. But she's done fine since that just has to pretend credentials to be considered the horse to beaten this race yet. It's a race on the pace. Projector it's a big field attempt. But there's no label so mad a ton of speed in here and the three horse elza is shown on the on the front end with a clear lead so she would be the one a lot of times. I would gravitate towards but i just see a playing out the same as last time when she faced a in into mystic and she wasn't able to handle that despite having things our own way upfront into mystic draws inside again has plenty tactical speed gets iran ortiz. So for me. I think she's going to be really tough to beat in here. If i'm playing horizontal bets in here. I'm probably going to single in domestic because i just don't like anybody else in here. Besides zales ian. I think she'll have her number The other horse. I would may be consider would've been jakarta who draws far outside and has had some success in. These surf sprints but as a six year old. She's a whore. Sue me to me in our last couple tur- sprint seems like she's losing some early speed She did lead last time but that was in a to turn race sprint. She hasn't been an even though she did one it. They've win one of those a couple back at gulfstream park. I just think it's a bad sign when forces who were normally always on the lead suddenly can't make it then particularly from the far outside post. Yeah i mean. I have no real problem with intimate stick in this race other than the likely short price because i mean her form just is kind of obvious and she's got a rat ortiz on board so that just kind of translate into horse. That's likely to be over bet. But she is the most likely winner of this race and projects to get a very good trip in here. I just feel like it's not like she's running speed figures that make her all that formidable in here i mean. She ran a couple of one thirteen one over the winter. One last fall in this race that race at keeneland in october at those do make the horse to be. But it's not like she's got some huge beat figure advantage over this field where she deserves to be a really short price in this race. So i'm definitely using her. But i think that there are some other horses in this race that can offer value one of those that just kind of gets ignored that i think deserves a look in this race. Is the number eight of control. She's fifteen two one in the morning line. I don't know if she's going to go off at a price quite that high. But she's got some races the definitely put her in the mix She was beaten by intimate three times last year. All basically all three times that they met but she was never that far behind her and arguably the best race that she's run on the turf recently. Was that turf sprint against the males at sam houston back at the end of january where she wasn't that far behind horses like fast boat and karaoke. Tari i mean they're every bit as good as into mystic and change of control was competitive with them so i just feel like she's coming into this race potentially a good form and if the page does heat up on the front end i think she could be running late so i would use her at a price but the horse that i would make my top pick in this race. Just from value. Standpoint is the number two in good spirits She's a four year old. Who's just making her second. Start at twenty twenty one. She had shown some talent as a three year old last year. Racing route races finishing Getting minor awards behind courses like sharing and harvey slow goyal. She was competitive in those races. Like the regret the edgewood but just couldn't quite get the distance was failing at the end. Going a mile a mile and an eighth el sol turned her back to five and a half furlongs at the fairgrounds at the end of january. And i really liked that performance guests. She was facing an inferior field to what she meets here but she came wide off the turn and close that field down with a pretty impressive late kick like a horse that might have just be a more natural fit to these shorter races She obviously has run a faster speed thicker to be competitive here but as a maturing horse who just turned four. I think she's got a right to do it. And i'm hoping that she's just one that gets a little lost in the shuffle here in falls through the cracks in does go off at that six to one or maybe a little higher in this race so in good spirits my topic but also use intimacy. Take change of control while i'm not gonna argue with either those both good. I did points on both of those as towards the only thing i'm going to have is if you're bored. Take a look through the into mystic. Pp's in time for us you can scroll the lifetime. Gp's and she quite the journey. It's just something interesting. Further that the people who've listened to see cheese horseshoes one mixed races at low sal. She's running zia park at sunlen and she after starting a career out at saratoga. So it's quite a journey that you don't often see for a horse. Gathered is kinda funny. I asked the remember debut at saratoga. I think that was my first summer. Baking the morning lineup. There and i remember she was a horse. That was working well for todd pletcher and was touted. I think back down to like even money or odds on race and she lost. But it's funny to see now she's top turf sprinter for breaded. Walsh move onto that other three year old. Prep race for the kentucky derby. That's being run on saturday. That is the lexington and remains to be seen. Whether this race will actually generate any starters for the kentucky derby. I think there's just one that's a possibility that being the favourite proxy and while proxy is clearly the horse to beat in this race and is the sixty five favorite on the morning line. There are many ways to go. If you're looking for an alternative. And i think you do have to start the discussion with the trip that these horses are likely to get because there is a ton of speed signed on concentrated down towards the inside. Yeah there's week at sprinter stretching out here. We got horses coming in. Medan wins and then we have proxy. As you mentioned who's been running in graded stakes races. I think he ran in all three of the louisiana perhaps and ran pretty well when those i assume he's in this race trying to to get points to make sure he makes derby field. But i gotta tell you. I'm not all that excited about him. I mean he. He's a decent enough force. But i don't like to turn back. He's turning back a full furlong in here. He's a horse. Who has done his best running up near the front. And as you mentioned. There's a ton of other speed and here so i'm going to try to beat proxy. Maybe i'm a little crazy in here but just looking at some of the other horses. We we have swiftsure. Who's coming out of what's been basically a monster key rigs said oaklawn a bunch of races a bunch of horses. He has beaten have come back to win. But i'm a little wary on this one as well. He had a big gap in his workouts Before his first two races he was working really fast doesn't seem to be the case since he's resumed now. That could very well be. That may be steve. Asmussen's been planning on stretching about all along. But i i don't know how well that would serve them in here. So we also have the bob baffert horse viso Who i don't like it all in here. But he's almost guaranteed to take some money. Just because of name recognition and bob baffert and it did look pretty impressive. Winning last time audi basically ran a one zero five speed figure. Which was sammy ram. When he got drubbed in his debut by a horse's turn the very good dream shape. So i'm gonna go in a totally different direction here and go to one of those inside speed horses and that's noble reflection this award sue. I really liked his maiden race. I think we talked about it on the pace cast. They got a one ten time form. Usb figure that they but like this he is a horse who certainly looks to me like. He's bread to go longer out. He's by liam's map out of his now mayor. The race has come back strong. The the runner-up came back to win his start next out all the other horses. They've kind of backed up to speed figures and despite that fast pace notation on the pace. Projector i i still think speed is dangerous and i think he could very well be speed the speed or maybe just sit off the to horsewhipped shirt who i've already mentioned and i believe this is one of those races where the us short stretch at qinglin and it just seems to favor horses inside with speed so i really like what i saw from noble reflection. He's a big price in here. And i'm not gonna let the peace projector taught me off that kind of number. Yeah we have a very similar take on this race once again. I think we agree. A lot of this This forecast today Yet proxy is surely the horse to beat that i think has formed from louisiana is solid. I mean those were good horses that he was running against but he kind of after taking a step forward in each successive. Start heading into the lecomte. He's plateaued a little bit in his speed figures. Since then maybe he didn't like the mile and three sixteenths last time demanding distance for three year olds in march. And now he's getting back to a mile and a sixteenth here But still it's not like he's got some big speed figure edge on this field so we have to run one of his best races to beat them. And i'm not sure like you. How comfortable he's going to be coming from the back of the pack in this race and he likely will be closing just given how much speed is drawn to the inside. So proxy can definitely win. And i would probably concede he's the most likely winner of this race. I wouldn't want to take a really short price on him. And we landed on the same horse. Greg noble reflection and you probably remember. I was really taken with this horse. His debut in addition to talking to you about it on the pace cast. I made him one of my horses to watch that week Because i just wanted to show the entire replay of that race and you made a good point about the runner up coming back to win and i completely agree with you. With regard to this horse's pedigree liam's map is a good dirt route influence on the damn side. This damn deal of the decade by tis. Now she's produced a bunch of bowls and almost all of them have been porches that preferred going route distances. Some of them on the turf but most of them on the dirt or like pretty fancy decent dirt powder cash out who could race on dirt enter going distances as far as a mile and an eighth so just feels like normal reflection is supposed to handle the extra ground. We'll see how fast he has to run on the front end. But i do think that he's one that will be on the lead here. I would say that he's likely to be the speed of the speed in this race because he's breaking from the rail and also if you watch to prior starts. This horse is just like a rocket launcher coming out of the gate fast out of the gate. So he's likely to have. The advantage comes from the inside as long as he breaks his sharply as he has in his two prior starts. And i'm just hoping javier castellano can rationale to speed on the front end that he can keep going with that short stretch. Go the milena. Sixteenth at keeneland. Sometimes that does favorite horses that are on the front end. So i'm hoping he can take them all the way as for the others in this race you're swift shore as you said. He showed a lot of talented his prior to starts. But i'm not quite as confident about him. Handling the extra ground is. I am noble reflection swift shores. Damn side pedigrees a little more sprint oriented. I have no interest in bays does. I've just never really gotten the hype on that horse hockey dad. I think has to be considered a little bit interesting. Because even though the big figure that he earned last time in the jeff ruby stakes was earned on synthetic. He's really run well on every surface that he's tried so far he did improve stretching out in distance last time so it could be that hockey. Dad is just a horse. That's moving in the right direction. The spring of his three year old season hockey. Dad is kind of wild card if i was playing vertical or horizontal beds while hand vertical. He's one that i would use my tickets. He did get a bit of a dream trip that jr steaks with just super fast pace and still wasn't able to close the deal. So i i'm a little iffy on him but at a price i certainly would take a shot on him from clay and pick threes or fours or whatever in here Yeah not not a whole lot to add. I'm going to base my boy on noble reflection here and hope he lives up to what i saw that first rates. Yeah just a couple more things. I don't think we're going to get fifteen two one unknowable. Reflection his last race was too impressive for him to offer that kind of price. But i do think he go aid to ten to one range because there are plenty of other ways to go in here so i do still think he'll be a a playable price. I'm i'm picking him as i think you are expecting to get a price. That's a little lower than the morning line and just i regard to the pace. We're talking mostly about horses that are going to be placed close to the front end in here and we're doing that because as you look through this field. There just isn't really a convincing closer to take. I mean i guess the one you might consider as unbridled honor but he just looked so slow to me. So i just couldn't find a closer that i find really appealing. No i agree with you about the morning line. I mean they have to ten horse starring in my dreams at six to one. And i mean looking at his running lines compared to noble reflection. I don't any way in the world. That horse goes off at best price. Let alone the kind of discrepancy that the morning line choose. Let's finish things up on this forecast with the grade. One jenny wiley. I think it's the only grade. One being run at keeneland on saturday. Going a mile and a sixteenth four the phillies and mayors. And it's a compact field but a field with some real quality especially with those three horses drawn down towards the inside now. The favourite on the morning light is the number one michelin. I'll be interested to see how they actually bet this race. I was just tweeting about before. We came on the air to record this forecast just based on the way the pace is likely to shake out and how well she ran on her race's last year it feels to me like the number three juliet. Foxtrot is just simply the horse to beat in this race. In given the strength of brad cox keeneland. I'd have to think that she's gonna take a lot of money in here and might even go off the favorite in this race to me. She's a horse to be. Yeah we agree. Unfortunately i hate when we agree to much but sometimes it works out that way. She's still horse to beat. I mean it's a race only six horses in here She shown on a clear lead on the peace. Projector a reset says. It's gonna fever. Horses owner nearly early and on top of that cheese the most accomplished in the field. She's run the fastest speed figures. has the biggest races so for me. She is clearly the horse to beat. I guess if i had to come up with a the second choice would be missing. And that's just because. I was impressed by your race last time even though she only got a one thirteen time formula speed figure. I know you like they're on the forecast that day and i think that speed figures a little misleading. Because if you watch that race. She drew outside. She was wide the whole way. And i was just really impressed. How she kept coming through the lane despite traveling all that extra ground so she ran a one thirteen at tampa. She had prior to that. Run a one seventeen and is a fairly newly term four year old. This only be your second start. I think she's the horse. Most likely capable of running in the one twentieth. Outside of juliet foxtrot yet. Juliet fox trot ibn. Some might say if they're knocking her that she's squandered some opportunities to win at relatively short prices in the past but she has faced some pretty good horses over the past. Couple seasons Some chad brown. Titans like rushing fall. And so. I don't think it's any disgraced losing to those horses. And when she gets a favorable pace scenario she's usually pretty dangerous. I mean we've seen her win gate to wire in the past going back to twenty nineteen but she's been very successful when she gets moderate paces. That was not the case last time in the matriarch when they went really fast on the front end. I mean mike. Smith is not my favorite turf writer in general because he just sometimes doesn't Fight his horses to put them in the right spot. I'll try to say it. That way and juliette foxtrot. He just dropped his hands on her and let her basically run off on the backstretch going way too fast and she paid the price late. I think that she would have won that race. If she had been taken in hand a little bit earlier But still losing two horses like the blow out is no disgrace. That brace came out very fast. And i just think if juliet fox trot returns in that same kind of form. She's going to be tough here incorrect. You know that. I'm a big fan of michelin. I liked her last year three year. Old i thought she arguably around the best racing the queen elizabeth challenge cup over this course back in october so if she continues moving forward as a four year old. I think she's very dangerous. She's just a horse. That doesn't have a big turn of foot kind of like her. Her brother proxy. It's of funny to see these siblings running back to back at team and a proxy and michelin out of the same damn panty raid but like that horse mission leans more of a grinder and lacking that kind of turn of foot. I warrior that she might not be as effective in a slow paced race. So i just. I'm not sure that michelin's going to get the right trip in here. But i do think she's one. That's moving in the right direction. The horse that's gonna take money. That i just don't quite get is the number to tampa here and chad. Brown has two runners in this race. I don't see how at twelve is Much of a contender based on races last year. That would by grade one. That charan and really wasn't the kind of great one quality that we're seeing in this jenny wiley but here i think is the one. That's gonna take more money. And i just i just didn't quite get the hype on her ahead of the matriarch where she was down to favouritism. She was beating a very weak field of three year. Old fillies in the sand pointed while she was visually impressive in that race. She's never run the kind of speed figure. That says that she's good enough to beat julia. Foxtrot matriarch. she couldn't beat her in. You've already detailed. Churchill way at foxtrot head. So i don't see how she could be there in this spot if they show up in good form couldn't beat her that day. It's hard to imagine her beating her without some major form reversal. Where juliet foxtrot details off. So i'm with you. I don't buy the morning line at all as you didn't that you mentioned on twitter i. I don't see juliet foxtrot. Not being the favourite in near to be honest. I don't think she's going to be in. The sixty five range may be the eat the five nine to five type of favorite just because the chad brown horses are always going to take money. But i think she's clearly the worst beaten tampa here doesn't scare me in the slightest well a lot of agreement on this forecast so we don't have too many opinions that we could be right about because you always cut those in half when we have the same pick all the races but hopefully we're right about our agree agree opinions on this episode of the forecast as for this late sequence at keeneland craig. These races are all consecutive. We didn't talk about the ben ally which is leading this. Pick five or the bayden race at the end but this does feel like a consumer. You can probably go a little thin. The jenny wiley. And the lexington just seems like arrays that so wide open. It might be able to make a pick four. Pick five sequence pay. Well yeah it looks like a decent enough to sequence the me. Ben is just i mean. It's only five force field. I haven't handicapped it but it. It's certainly a very weak grade three on paper. But i would imagine you wouldn't have to go to deepen there're certainly will have to take. Maybe it's one of those wide open five force fields. But i i think the three races we talked about outside the lexington. I thinking keep pretty narrow and come up with a reasonable ticket. Well that's it for this week's time form. Us podcasts We will obviously recap all of the races that we talked about on this forecast on the pace cast. We do that on tuesday. And we'll have a discussion about how things have been sorted out on the kentucky derby terrell because the point standings will be set by. Then we'll just have to see who commits to the race. And if there are any defections between now and kentucky derby time in early may but a lot to look forward to this weekend. And i'm sure greg both watching those races on saturday. Remember that you can always listen to us on dear f. dot com spotify. I tunes youtube and soundcloud replicator. Podcast just make sure to subscribe to the daily racing form chatel. Thanks for tuning in this week and make sure to catch the time. Us pace cast on tuesday.

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - July 3rd 2020

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - July 3rd 2020

"Welcome to the weekend. Stakes preview on the horse racing radio network presented by naira vets. It is coma. Don't want to catch as they come into the stretch in the grade. One run happy, Carter. Coma with the lead networker affect driving up on the outside of American them. Then forensic fire coma has a five lane played, and comber is pouring out in the strateg- hey really loved the slop in this grade. One run happy Garter much best seven furlongs over off going in one minute twenty one seconds, but coma takes great wants thanks now. Here's Anthony Stabile and Bobby Newman. Welcome to the weekend. Stakes preview present the by narrow bats here on the horse racing radio network. I'm the big a aunt that needs to be all up at Beautiful Belmont, Park. Where just? Hours away less than a day away from the grade. One run happy met mile and fantastic eleven race card down in south Florida's Bobby Newman. Back and our Lexington Kentucky Studios OP. reducer lead Dela Pena. We've got a dozen stakes for you tonight. We'll go to Belmont a little woodbine Delaware. Park has the Delaware Oaks and the Kent Tomorrow Gulfstream Park Action Out West Los alamitos greatly em and Loselle Derby, some points on the line for the Kentucky Derby in that low sow derby, Baffert, as you would expect, has strong hand with the favorite uncle chuck and a thousand words. What's happening bobby, Newman. Looking forward to a great day should be a awesome at Belmont Park tomorrow. Wish I could be there. Be there in spirit, and obviously wagering wise his plotting my pick five strategies as we speak eleven race card, you can catch us on talking horses and he certainly an I'll go over the cart at noon. Take a look over the Nari. Youtube Channel watching Arab bets account of course on the Admiral's Day at the races all day long, check. NYERERE DOT COM TV schedule for that information, and of course if you WANNA play along. 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The victory ride kicks off the stakes action here at Belmont Park tomorrow afternoon grade three early in the caught has just the feel of five phillies. Going to go. Six, and a half furlongs as for the three year old's warning line favors one francs rock cat hall of Famer Bill Will Give Fellow, Hall of Famer John Velazquez a leg up, and this phillies done very little wrong on her career. She's three for seven. With four second-place finishes ran second in a couple of graded stakes including the grade one spin away up at Saratoga last year last seen winning a third level allowance. She uses stakes. Winner took the any limit kick off three year old season three starts back. And probably the only reason that this race isn't later in the card is that it's a five Horsfield and Franks Rakhat is three to five on the morning line, and she may be the the loan speed in race, so she's going to be tough to beat at three to five, but that's a pretty short price, considering there some pretty good up and coming phillies near now I think number four center I'll. I'm going to give her another shot for. For Chad Brown and Joel Rosario Sheila Great Getting Her Maiden Win Gulfstream, Park when bet down to three to five at the end of March, then came back in a tough allowance race at Churchill downs where she was really over bet, she was three to five that day against another very impressive maiden winner of this one for Steve, asmussen in casual casual, ran a great race that day center I'll had all sorts of problems. She didn't break that well. She had trouble during the race, and she was just really never in at any point I think it's a racy can kind of draw a line through? If she runs closer to the way she did and her debut I think she's the one that could give Franks rock cat, the biggest problem. Franks rocket will probably get the lead. I would think Rosario would have center I'll sitting justin behind her and seeing if they can outgun into the line going six and a half furlongs. With you I'm going to take a shot with center. Rile planner. If. When I plan early took five tomorrow, I will use both Franks rocket and center, but I'll tell you what I think. You can make a case. Also for up in smoke was undefeated and sprints. She's four five and a career. Lone blemish came when George. Weaver tries to stretch her out Hollywood wildcat. Go at Gulfstream Park. She's raced exclusively of Gulfstream in fact, steady diet once. Once a month February march April may June now. She gets a race in July here over Big Sandy. She wanted the game face overboard last time out for weaver. Rod Ortiz Junior who wrote her in her debut against fellow Florida breads down at Gulfstream Park's in the climb back aboard for the first time. Since that day looks, you'll need a little help up front if Franks rockets able to set an easy pace I. She's going to be very very tough I. think Senator I'll be the first one to come calling. Those are the two up in smoke. If you're looking to three deep, I don't think you need to center for Bobby and I race number three goes as the great three six and a half for a long victory ride go to the end of the card. Eleven race card like I, said earlier, and the final four races make up an all stakes pick four, and it starts in reasoning with the greed three poker. Flat Mile on the turf for many years. This was the fourth of July staple. On the naira calendar, and here it is now as part of a super five stakes card. In the poker, though run a mile on the widener, so they come out of that shoot. On the clubhouse turn we get a field of eight entered for the turf as a main track. Only it's all relevant with the way. The weather's been here. I would imagine you know they're supposed to be some rain. We're recording the show Friday afternoon supposed to be some rains rather day on Friday and into the evening. I can't imagine anything enough to take this off the turf, so let's say it will be a field of eight. You know when I through this race, you of course noticed the presence of Chad Brown valid points in a returning the grade, one secretariat for troubled trip in the shadow turf mile at and last year. That's when he ended his career. ended his three year old season career thankfully We haven't seen him for nine months now. He's a former stakes. Winner hawkish won the pen mile back in twenty eighteen cliffhanger last year, seismic wave stakes winner over the course chal paranoia to read three Appleton. eons won the greed three. Kent we see. The mayor got stormy back. She's a great one winner value proposition value proposition, the only one in here without a stakes. When to his Belton. He figures along dream friend. They should say and they figured it'd be two major players in here. And I think you have to use both of them for plane horizontal wagers, Dream friend is going to be the speed of field. There's no one else who can come close to as much the speed that he has a. he has a tendency to get a little bit tired late, and he hasn't won in quite a while, but he still running very very good races. He was beaten by value proposition last time out. I think social paranoia is another. Another one that has a chance didn't have the didn't run his best race last time out and I think he's capable better than that, but I think number. Two valid point is my top choice in here, and if it was somebody other than Chad Brown training the source I'd be a little bit more roy the fact that he hasn't run. Since the beginning of October, they put up a great stat on America's Day at the races on Thursday with the. Amount of horses, Chad Brown has had that have already in twenty twenty returned from two hundred plus day layoffs to win stakes at the most recent one happened on Thursday with fifty five, so I'm not really worried about valid point being ready to fire a big shot in the poker off the laugh. This horse was favored in the grade. One shadwell turf mile at Keeneland, which is always A. A phenomenal race didn't have the greatest of trips that day finished tenth, but was only beaten three lengths when he really didn't have a good trip now he's off the layoff. Really writer Ho Higher Castellano was aboard. He's one of the ones that's going to be trying to track down dream friend. I expect him to fire a big shot off. The layoff and seven to two is a fair price. seventy-two own valid point Bob Newman the tours as I mentioned. That haven't stakes to places. I went here. Dream, friend. Is Loose on the lead Jose. Scandal certainly knows how to Dole out some speed on the front end source office seven month break last time out ran really well when he left when he the race before the break I needed them for about eight thousand such terrible beat beaten still regard that day was going to be one of the favorites in the Manhattan. If not the favorite he's going to be loose on the lead in here. It didn't work off the bench. We'll see and we'll see how much pressure got stormy puts on. Am I went to value? Proposition overcame a mediocre pace last time the only time this horse got beat when they. Put them on the lead. He's not speed or so be off the pace. He gets leading. Tease Junior I thought they would have to. I wanted to lean on that lead pick five, and then this all stakes four, I'M GONNA. Use a little valid point. I'M GONNA use seismic wave. WHO GETS A? Big Ryder change to Joel Rosario, so is the perfect two for two at the mile. He won a couple of minor stakes to Cutler Bay and the English Channel They will, both against St, three year olds. He made his four year old debut first start against open company in that first defense going seven furlongs last night out he. He's a little bit more. More real estate I think you gotTA. Use Him in here. He's going to offer some value for Martin. Rosario but I'll take the number nine value proposition top pick over dream friend race eight does as the great three poker. The big one is the first segment. The grade one run happy met Mile Metropolitan, handicap grade one half million dollars on the line. As strong a field of eight, as you are going to see for a grade one I, mean you could in all honesty in some cases of stronger than others, but you could make a case for every one of the eight runners in here McKenzie's toodle one of the morning line. He's the favourite for combs. The five th to second choice and Kovar is the three to one third choice. It is just a wide open run. Happy met mile this year, really happy to see this race as the centerpiece of this Fourth July, Cart. And all three of those horses you mentioned that are the morning line. Favorites are coming off impressive wins. Last time out in preparation for this race. They're all going to have to track down the outside runners, warriors, charge and mister freeze figured to be the speedier of the of the speed horses in this spot, and although they're very good runners in their own right, I think the three that you mentioned are are definitely the ones to beat number three mackenzie is a rare Bob baffert trainee. Does not mind shipping back and forth to New York a Baffert as not always had the greatest success with these things, of course he did I've arrogate who won very impressively at Saratoga a few years ago because he ran a very good race last year in the met mile didn't have the cleanest trips that day ended up finished second to Matali and came back with a resounding win. The Whitney after that loved his win. Last time out in the triple brand. Triple Bend is I. Start off the layoffs inside running poorly in Saudi Arabia. beat the greatest field in the triple bend that day, but he beat them very easily, and he came home very fast. I think the one turn mile hit some right in the head, and I think two to one is probably the right price i. He's the one beating the spot. The other one I would use with him. Is number two coma because he's a little bit of an unknown. This was a horse who? Really was on the Derby trail and looked like he had a shot in the Kentucky Derby last year. He didn't run very well. That day. Behind maximum security is first time on a sloppy track, but seemed like about three quarters of the field that day had trouble or didn't run well, so it's a racial can kind of draw a line through his? His previous four starts were all good to start this year. have been great including the run happy Carter last time out, worry tried the sloppy track again and he just aired in race that I think would be good enough to beat. This met mile fields I don't know if he's going to run that well again especially, if the track's not wet. But he just may be a better horse right now. As a four year old, he was three year old, and that's not unusual also. Those are the two I'm kion, most number, three Mackenzie, my top choice, but also using number to vima. Kennedy's my top choices. Well, I just I've always thought he was middle distance horse, probably a little bit better around one term then to. He's one around to turn. One of his fastest numbers. I think he's one turn horse I. Think he's a miler. I'm a big believer in that. I think there are other horses in here as as much as I do like Mckinsey I thought you can make a case for like I said. I only throughout. I only put XS through Hakkari Costco's a bit of a stretch for me and warriors charge. They're the two that would really surprise me. I think you can make a big case for MR freeze. That MR freeze is going to get do what he wants to do. And that's a one turn mile has two wins at the distance came and stakes, races, lone defeat, going mile came in that weird configuration out of the shooter. LS Park so he's two for to around the one turn mile on his card. That's all he has of these two one turn raises so I think he's going to be very tough around one turn. I like endorsed effort last time out now, you. Maybe you can argue that them wet track. Move Them Up. He had lost his two prior stopped on my tracks. E was one for one rather on his two prior starts to address one for to a win in the second. You could argue it. Move them up I think he had a little bit more of a kick. Then Code of honor had you can make a case for Kovar as well, but I think code of honor might be the one most affected by this mile distance now. He loves dome on Park. In fact, the only time he lost, it was in the champagne when he had a brutal break and Eric. Council did a great job just finishing second to complexity that he's undefeated. Thoughts one by way of D Q in the Jockey Club Gold Cup but I think he wants more ground than the rest of them I think you can make a case for for coma Bobby. I think you make a case for network effect That may be. He's Kinda rounding into a good race. He gets he's junior. He'll have some paste onto here. He's already inside will save some ground. I can make as for all I like. Mckinsey on top I'M GONNA use. Mr Freeze. There's going to be a one race where I'll go thin the rest of the way in spread when I first looked at the race bobby I. Don't know if you felt this way more often than non. You're following the the national scene like we. Do you kind of know who you like when the injury comes out when the entries come out. And I tried to put that. Away for a minute when you handicap this race top to bottom. Men this is going to be a real slugfest I early contender for the year from me. And it seems like it always is the met mild and never disappoints. It was phenomenal last year. It is another great field this year. We both went on. Mackenzie, but we both agree it's going to be. An absolute battle cannot wait. The run happy met. Mile goes as race nine tomorrow here at Belmont. Park will take our first break when we come back you. The Blood Horse News Update will wrap the card at Mont the Manhattan and the suburban. The to stakes left will head north of the border up at Woodbine. 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This is the weekend stakes freeview presented by naira beds along with instilled regard who has made a move there flop shot has now come on, and the field is at the top of the stretch temple had to check out of a three quarters in one eleven and one, and here is instilled regard to take over the lead in the stretch some like it rod and second then it synchrony Dow. Gaining on the outside, but just the sixteenth to the finish. It isn't still regard with the lead. Closing fast and still regard. Is the water. In still regard holding off the late charge of devastating. Welcome back. In still regard. Just a second stakes win. Of His career. He. On the TURF, he'll look for the elusive grade. One Win in the Manhattan tomorrow afternoon here at Belmont, park welcome back to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by IRA bets here on the Horse Racing Radio Network before we wrap up no on action, head up toward mine. It's time now for the Lord's news. Update and look at the top headlines. BLOOD HORSE DOT COM. Says on improves to two with win. At Los Alamos Cezanne, who turned heads by selling seven figures as juvenile and winning his debut Jim Six hundred seventy. The park improve to two winning a forty five thousand dollars allowance optional claiming race. Linked to three quarters July second los, alamitos race course, the one tonight favored the field five match against three horses, which started in claiming races and stablemate. Ron would not racist number. The BOB BAFFERT trainee took charge from a stalking position, leaving the second of two turns in the mile race without any significant challenge down the stretch seems tend to idol causing jockey fluffy in practice. Strike Him. Four Times to maintain a clear advantage. Vicki may delete a little early. This kind of lost weight in this stretch Baffert, told Los Alamos complicity he wanted. We wanted to nice to turn into him. He needed it any ran pretty fast to the reserve. The goal of giving him experience of around he handled well. I thought it was good. Baffert said via telephone from him he does. He will move way forward off that he was blowing pretty good. I'm glad we found this spot. He's got a ways to go, but he's improving. We'll have to see how he comes out of this. We'll try to find a little stakes. Race form probably out of town. That wraps up. The season of the doors news update update download a copy of Horse magazine or tablet today from the APP store, or we will play, or you can sign up a horse dot com slash digital where digital subscriptions are also available and for a limited time. Digital Access subscriptions are only forty nine dollars a year. That's DOT COM backslash digital. League oh Bob. We talked a little bit about him on the Brisbane Dot com call in show last night. He got the job done I have been underwhelmed by Cezanne. and I don't know if that's the the gaudy purchase price, or the fact that so far. He just hasn't been that impressive. Well I, think I think he's run very well and both starts, but it's hard to say who is beaten both those races that that allowance race yesterday. Most of those horses were barely allowance horses. They are more like high high level claiming type horses so the waters. WE'RE GONNA get deeper, but he's done what he's had to do, and so far too for two, and there's no reason he can't continue to improve. Now. looks like Cezanne is definitely A. Going to be part of that second wave of Bob Baffert runners when it comes to this year's Kentucky, Derby which force will be held for the one hundred and six time, but this year on September fifth all right back to the weekend action. Saturday action to be exact mile a quarter. Great one Manhattan's worth four hundred thousand dollars this year. It'll be run. Run on the inner turf course we'll go a little more than once around the turf course remember three biggest courses in America. Right here at Belmont Park a mile and three sixteenths for the inner surf, a mile and five sixteenths for the widener enforce big sandy mile half the dirt track, so we'll go a little more than once around the inner here Chad Brown again installed regard from the rail with radical tease junior rock emperor John. Velazquez reunited from post to He'll settle DEVA MANI as well. We'll chatted just missed behind. Install regard always Rosario. Reid, he's the number five Um, so of course half the field he. Chad Brown a big player in the Manhattan. And you said you could make a case for almost everyone in the run. Happy met mile. I could make a case for all eight of the runners in the Manhattan including number three cross-border, who I'd I don't quite think as good as these horses, but may get the lead by himself, and who knows could take them a long way out there I'm actually going to select the other New York bread on top. That's number seven dot Matrix, Brad Cox and Flora Giroux I just think he loves Belmont, Park. He's been in the money. Eight of fourteen tries at Belmont. ran in the tiller last time. Time out and finished second. to parade only beaten ahead that day. That wasn't a mile and three eighths so i. don't think this distance will do anything. Be Right up his alley. He's one of the one of the ones here who a mile and a quarter I'm not worried at all about F- lingerie reunited with the son of Freud last time. This horse one Laurent's route was aboard. It was a great three event down at Sam Houston listen. He doesn't have all the GAUDY numbers that other ones like Sadler's joy or instilled regard, have with the grade, one grade two wins, but. He's a horse who's really gotten good at ages five six and hopefully seven, and he's one of the ones in here and at six to one. I don't think he'll be any lower than that. He could be actually hired just because of the big names surrounding these other runners. All right, so bobby newman hit dot matrix home at a price list. He was a peripheral player from me I don't know. If he really wants to go amount of quarter now that sounds ridiculous because he's wanted a mile and a half, and he's run well three eighths this mile and a quarter distance those a little difference between her distance. we'll see I. he could absolutely win I like rock Cambre. I like Rock Emperor. Last year's a three year old He had a couple of tough trips one here in the Belmont. Derby where he was in post fourteen, and then he chased of you know he had no chance a no chance trip when there was no pace in the Saratoga Derby invitational. The moonies, his three four year, old debut, speed, favoring turf, course, and then last time out, you know. He had that trip in the Wittingham out in California going my own quarter, one of his two wins in his career of coming a mile and a quarter I. I'M A fan. Installed regard ran well last time I think he got a little lucky to survive though last time and these other wars. You know I don't know how far he wants to go but I'm going to use him. You gotta use Sadler's joy. The old campaigner and Deva Mani was the real interesting one for me. When Devil Mani ran his other races, they were not for Chad his other mile and a quarter races. They were not for Chad Brown. Source Rain is to best races of his career for Chad Brown in his last two starts four months apart over two courses. That couldn't be more different Tampa Bay downs and Belmont Park. I flirted with putting this horse on top because truth be told if he runs back to his last race. His last race puts him right. Right on the wire here with the other ones, and he's going to be the the best price. Of the of the three. Chad that I think can win. I'M GONNA use all four of those horse. I mentioned I may even throw dot Matrix on on a ticket. Alabama but I'm a rock emperor fan, and I think his improvement will continue, and I think he'll get the money agreed one Manhattan and a quarter that goes race number ten race number eleven. Mile and a quarter on the dirt, the grade to two hundred thousand dollar suburban. We get the field of. Eight And we get tacitus and. Man I just I saw, and I breathe. blinkers go back on. If you're a believer. In speed figures the blinkers on racist, whereas to fastest John, Velazquez ruled for the first time in the oaklawn handicap last time out. He's back aboard. He gets a rail draw. In the field of eight. And he should get a perfect trip and it really looks to me like the to morning line favorites layover this field. One of those horses should win number one tacitus our number four Mr. Buff Mr Buff may be the faster of the two. He certainly faster early I just don't know if a mile and a quarter is really what Mr Buff. I think he's wants more of a mile and a sixteenth or a mile and an eighth, and although he's the speed of the speed, their horses like Joe via and ready in the field. That probably won't let him just dawdle around there for the first half mile. They'll at least be in close. Close Up. But I don't think task. This is going to be too far back either and he's going to be the one who's coming in. He is the most consistent runner in the field in my eyes. He doesn't win that often. He hasn't won since the wooden moral actually back in April of last year. And he's never won at Belmont Park, but I think he's going to get the right trip. I think he's the horse to beat and it's one of those things. I mean if he if he doesn't win this race. I don't know who is going to beat later in the year this this race is really drawn up for Tacitus to get to the wire I. So Along the lines of the met mile conversation. You see these horses. You know who you WANNA. Use you know you kind of know who you like. When. When you? Think of Tacitus you. Your breathe heavy. You frustrated at least I do. all the above so when I looked at on the when I looked on paper. At this race. You and I have talked about this all week on Redburn Rabia. You, say to yourself. Tacitus is supposed to be the sources. Supposed to beat these sources, I mean that's that's it. and. I'm going to reiterate. He supposed to beat these horses. And that's it now if you do not trust him, the problem is Mr Bufton went. Sir Winston can win. I think just whistle can win because he's gotten a little quicker with the addition of blinkers. And Obviously Moretti can win. So the problem becomes the. Problem we talk about you know. You still gambling on the good horses you gambling on the steak sources the same gambling on claiming west. So here, the problem becomes. If this were not a great to race and. This would be the kind of race where you would say and I'm pretty sure I could speak for you as well bobby? If you don't like Tacitus y'all almost have to hit the all button. Because I think you can make a case for a lot of these sources. Maybe not as strong for some but MR, buff is probably the second most talented was the most talented horse in the race. I don't trust friend or foe out of a spy town Medical Mouna quarter now he's handled a mile nape just fine, but. He's probably never faced a field or awards like tacitus. In a spot where he could win. And now he's got to go ten forms to do it. Tyson doesn't win this race tomorrow. I don't know what's next. I, don't. So. He is my clear cut selection race number eleven rates. Who suburban Tacitus for me to wrap the Belmont Cart over at Woodbine. MILENA sixteen on the all weather the eclipse Ray two-mile, hundred and seventy-five thousand Mr Rich, the number four. Is Your even money favourite jody? Carol and Patrick Husbands in the field of seven. Josie Carroll actually has two of the runners also number two. ABC's flatter along with the favourite. Mr Reds I actually think both of them have a chance in here. Mr Reds. Probably the speed of the speech. There is some other speed in the race most notably from number one uncle bowl, maybe even number two ABC's flatter, although I would think Josie Carroll would probably let the writers know not to go off and hurt each other up. Beat each other up on the front end Mr Ritz. If he runs his good races, he's going to win this race and He ran a good race in the eclipse stakes last year off a similar Lafayette Enron since October came back in the eclipse lead every jump, except for the last one. Lose by a nose to super tap. While finishing clear of the rest of the field. That may be his biggest downfalls the fact that I race off layoff in the other races. He ran last year second third fourth star off were better than that race in the eclipse. But also proved that he's pretty good off the layoff, and if he gets out in front of this field, I think he's going to be tough to beat. I don't want him in even money or four to five, but I think he's going to take them wire-to-wire. Right I am going to. Uh. Take one little shot against him. The one uncle bowls of fresh gelding hasn't run since the Hollywood Derby. He's one for one on the synthetic for trainer. Mark, Cassie I'M GONNA go bowl from the rail. She's betraying Foley for this. As a fifteen hundred four over the local course I'm going to try uncle bull upset the apple cart race number eight goes into the great to eclipse all right one and a half way home. We'll take a break when we come back. We'll head down at Gulfstream Park still. Gulfstream Park Delaware. Park and Los Alamitos to come your way in the second half of the weekend. 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You're listening to horse racing radio network. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets move past the quarter pole with less than a quarter mile run Cajun Catha trying to stretch out a bit. Double Crown Loosen charging as green light go is not firing less than a quarter of a mile to go double crown, shifting ground, but up to take the lead Cajun Casanovas next from between horses, green light go! Here's the run from with verve under product. We storming home in deep stretch. Double crowd is in front green light. Go comes again on the inside. Double Crown wins the roar. Double. Crown beat green light. Go found extra energy in deep stretch. He was second with Verve, third and one sixteen into. Welcome back. Against presented by naira. Betsy. You're on each are and. Pal on the call of the roar double crown got the money. See if he can do it again in the carry back tomorrow at Gulfstream Park, play it all at narrow dot. com had over to open an account HR in twenty the promo code though the positive match-up two hundred bucks once you bet four hundred. Or double. An DOT COM for details go to narrow dot com slash TV check out the TV section to find out America's Day. The Racist Broadcast Information Tomorrow and Sunday. And they got that twenty bucks. Cap On the met mile. You're winner up to five to one. If he's less than that head over reds dot com for more details, identical, Gulfstream Park is Alia kicks off. The stakes action for US race number nine seven furlongs four, the three year, old fillies, a field of six, including the aforementioned born, she tasted defeat for just a second time when up in smoke ran by in the game face. She's looking for first stakes win and she's six to five on the morning line do so! She certainly wanted the one. Maybe the speed of the speed I'm not one hundred percent sure that seven furlongs is the distance she wants She's gotten a little tired at six and a half furlongs and three of her last four starts. I know it's weird. Say that being the. She won two of them by daylight, but she came home that last sixteenth of a mile in about seven seconds flat in both of those starts so i. Tell me that she's going to love getting more distance and she's going to be the heavy favorite hair, so because of that thick take a shot with number two steeler talent also for one Aragona and Sami Camacho. She's only gotten a maiden win. To her credit, but she's been in the money. All six of her career starts. At Maiden win albeit on a sloppy track was at the one turn mile, so I don't think the distance is GonNa hurt her at all and her speed figures actually even though they were against, maidens are not far behind. The favorite born, so I'm gonNA take a little shot with the steel talent, so at a nice price and I'll show with the former claimer. Don't get cozy. WHO's made a bunch of starts for tag? She has been good. She's just three quarters of a length away from five consecutive win against much less, but she has gotten better and what you mentioned. Mentioned about born in that seven furlongs and get cozy two for four with a second going seven panels best race of her life last time she absolutely galloping what I like about her versatility. The kind of walked going a mile to starts back. She was right on top of the pace. They went fast last time she came from far back. They went. Reasonable sensible fractions back in May and April. She came from mid pack. She can do it all. She's four to one of the morning line I liked that they showing faith, and leaving the Apprentice Joey trails aboard I liked. Don't get cozy a lot tomorrow. In recent number nine, the seventy five thousand dollar, a Zeljko later on the card at Gulfstream, Park. Is the carry back we heard. penile on the call of the roar went the double crown so otherwise the length away from being undefeated, all three of his starts Christian. Torres, who just lost the bug RISA CAPI RID FO? He'll break from post number five His wins have come at six six and a half he to. Seven furlongs tomorrow for the first time. You have some more cutting back like the one French. James the to Cajun brother, they went the mile, and an eighth a mile respectively last time Poe, did the same thing even with Verve, so you got some worship cutting back here to go the seven furlong some for the first time, some like with Vervoordt one for one of the distance having handled fell. Florida breads back in February. Yeah by the way the Israelian carry back both part of the summit of speed at calder for several years. I think the carry back actually used to be a great three event, I think I got to call lost in the fog, winning the Kerry back around thousand and five so. No lost in the fog's here. Though double crown to for Kathy Richaud. Both private purchases after impressive wins at Laurel. Number three our nation on parade and number, five double crown purchase by reeves thoroughbred racing cathy rip phone now trains Nice Win by double crown last time out beat with verve that day by about a length and a half at six and a half furlongs, I think those are the two players once again i. don't see any reason the double crown. Can't stretch out to seven furlongs and still run well lightly raced has been finishing well and all three of his starts. He's the logical one to beat the spot and I think with verve is probably the best chance of beating him. A little shower cajun brother, the number two Michael Years had a fantastic star twenty. Twenty I'm GonNa, people can say that but Michael Yates can. The source tried the mile last time out and got himself involved in a little bit of a speed duel early Kind Kinda tired and hit the rail. We see a little bit of. The kind of regrouped now just got a couple of breezes. You'll cut back to a sprint He's got plenty of speed to be on the lead, or he can suggest off I would like to see Mickey Vasquez. Let this source run from the Rep tomorrow I think he's going to I'm going to try Cajun breeze. He's five to one in the morning line. I think we'll be right around that. So Cajun Cajun brother other Cajun breeze with Kelly sources, Cajun brother me. Race numbers eleven goes as the seven furlong. Carry back the Delaware Park we go couple of grade. Threes degrade three Delaware oaks for the three year old fillies. They'll mile and a sixteenth. On the main track. Field of eight. Seth Godin Post in here to inside Warner's. The one comical is five two on the morning line for Hall of Famer Steve Asmussen Alex cintron arrive the number two piece of my heart to to one morning line favorite Clean Robertson Join Talamo team up. These two ran one to peace in my heart, got in front of calm and kept on going into. Gardenia at Oakland, Park they were eight to one and six to one respectively that day. You'RE NOT GONNA get that price on this twilight zone exactly if it comes in tomorrow, Delaware. And both of them have some natural speed, but there's also speed in the field from number, five hopeful growth and number six project whiskey so I'm going to take a little bit of a shot hair with somebody, hopefully from off the pace, and that's number eight queen bridget for John Teas and Tyler, baze ran on the turf last time out at Churchill downs, and I'm not one hundred percent. Sure that she's better on the turf than she is on the main track. Her previous tries on the. The at Oaklawn were pretty good, including a third place finish to demean where she was only beaten about six and a half lengths Camin would be one two nine was in this field so only six and a half lengths behind demean and the ability to pass other phillies. I think are two things that are in the favor of number, eight queen bridget cheese eight to one on the born line. That's the right price for me and we'll look for her to be mowing them down late. Queen Bridget. Sources also cross entered. Sunday at Prairie Meadows. We'll. Those tracks are not very close to each other. Lucky so. They know already where they're running I'm sure that Queen. Bridget is wherever she needs to be already For for my sake I, hope I hope she runs a Delaware part. Tomorrow. Yeah. That Gardenia was really fast race. It was it was. For this type. Listed stakes, horses, and I know comical, just a missed by a neck and the chandelier grade one to bass than Piece of my heart was kind of stepping up for the first time last time out. I want another horse that stepping up and the number five hopeful growth for Saint Elias and Tony. Moore gotTa Trevor McCarthy GonNa ride forth different rider, four different rider, four different track, fourth different distance for this three year old daughter of aperture, so she is adapted well to change, and in fact you know it's so funny. We say that first time she ran with blinkers. Second. Time she went with blinkers and lasix and second time she ran, was nine and a half months after the first time she ran when he broker which he a made into first asking at Monmouth, so first time with Lincoln's second time of liquors and Lasix and then last night we just lay success. She's never had anything the same. In their starts. The one thing that's when the same she's always home in a good effort to wins a second place finish off the nine and a half month layoff. She stretches out third. Start off the bench. She'll stretch out. Numbers aren't great for the born on the stretch out from the sprinted around this. This really got to sprint under about. She's going to be a a decent enough price. Think be ten to. To one that she's in the morning, it'll be sixty one I'm GONNA try hopeful growth to get the to get the money and race number eight, the grade three Delaware. Okay, all right, we'll take one more break when we come back. We got one more for you on the turf. The Kent another grade, three Delaware Park, and we'll head out the Los Alamos for a couple of graded stakes as well you listening to. The weekend stakes preview present the by naira bats here on the horse racing radio network. 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This is the weekend stakes preview presented by NAIRA BETS quarter mile to go, and Uncle Chuck Widens now. He's in front by three and a half. Big Mouth tries to overhaul its stablemate down at the rail. Duma. They turned for home uncle. Chuck by four Big Mel, clearly in the second uncle Dumas's third coming to the sixteenth and I'll go. Chok is pouring it on a sparkling debut for this son of Uncle Mo.. Go Chuck and Mike Smith Romping home. They win by about seven. Big Mel second big Cheddar third uncle, a Duma for. The Mirror Man Frank Merle amount on the call Uncle Chuck Robb in his debut. Get to try stakes. Company for the first time when Louis Sayas in Los alamitos Derby tomorrow, afternoon. Out At low sal, welcome back to the weekend. Stakes presented by naira bats here on H. R. R. N.. Kick off your Saturday. With the way we kicked off the horse racing radio network showed launched the network, the equine forum tomorrow morning, eight to ten am eastern time. 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They campaign warm at mild winters than any owner in history plus our industry star of the week presented by Stewart Mars and more equal forum tomorrow morning from eight to ten am eastern time series to nineteen Xm to oh one stream it live at horse, racing radio dot net, and that's what you can go if you missed anything this week Keith O'Brien son of trainer Leo O'Brien, of course, the conditioner four stars, all, Star and four star four star Dave. Keith does some voiceover work for us here at the network. He was the guest trainer doctors at by Phasing Tipton and Bobby. Newman filled infrared the Rosa with me on the prisoner dot com call show last night both up in podcast form this weekend stakes previous by. We'll be there soon to. Home for all of racing's biggest events plenty of podcast as well. Horse Racing Radio Dot net all right. We got about nine minutes to get through the last three races Kent is a great three. It goes reached number nine number nine at Delaware Park. mylan an eight that starts all the way up in the shoot and shoot goes all the way to the top of the far turn. It's really strange. Configuration their Delaware Field of eight. Entered for this GAFA. Christoph Clermont. Sources on race wintry, he got beaten his debut at act. After that three wins including the English Channel All wings with Gulfstream Park Trevor McCarthy GonNa live aboard for Christoph. Lamont five to on the morning line. I cannot imagine this horses anywhere near five to do when these ring the Latch Tomorrow Bobby Now he kinda should have a good setup in Kent I. There's a lot of speed in the race number eight. Maybe the speed of the speed, but number seven sensation is fast number four by Melvin is speedy and Kufo comes from well out of it as you chronicled. He's done very very well. Thus far I. I guess the only negative and I don't even know if he'd say it's a negative or not but he goes from to hall of fame. Caliber riders in Joel Rosario Ira Ortiz who have split duties during goof Os four starts as far trevor McCarthy who's very good in his own right. He's not kind of name that those guys are, and he does most of his writing in the mid Atlantic. Reason region, so he's never. GonNa get quite the publicity or or at the same kind of mounts that Ortiz a Rosaria do, but that would be the only I guess somewhat negative. If you're looking at it that way, but he should get the right trip and the racist he's been running. Thus far is improve with each and every start, and it looks like his last racer to or both good enough to beat this field. There's no reason he can't continue to improve so I. Agree Gluco at five to is the way to go, and if you could get five, you should run to the window if you get five to sign me up now that as much as I possibly can goof off from me as well. pixelated comes with his best race He could be right there with them, but. It's coming back a little quick. He's coming back just two weeks. I know Mike System keeps US sources in the mid Atlantic, and it's an easy. It's an easy ship, and especially the scratch to or what have you but. I mean if if the Horse that is your biggest contender, you biggest biggest threat is coming back in two weeks. Vandy some back in two weeks, also He ran the Pine Ridge here. Belmont I, I just I just think Google is him over a barrel race number nine goes degree three. Kent at Delaware Park Los Alameda. Couple of graded stakes, races, greed, three, los, alamitos Derby Mile and an eighth GonNa have some Derby points on the line, Twenty, eight, four and two feel the five here Bob Baffert has uncle chuck at six five in the morning line thousand words at nine to five annot door. Meaning finally showed some life last time it's it's pretty you know it's been a bad run when you get beat almost six lengths, and it's a sign of life, but he did last time. joined by a couple of other longshots here. Boy Uncle. Chuck looked really good breaking. His maiden went to water going flat mile. You talked about this, bobby. That's not something Bob. BAFFERT does more often than not these horses you know even the likes of justify justify sprinted first time out and uncle. Chuck and I know February's much different than June. Uncle truck went a flat mile first time out, and he looked good doing it. I don't know what kind of field he beat that day, but he beat them very impressively, and he'll probably be able to be on the lead once again there. Isn't that Tanna speed in this race. They look like more stocking types than front running types an. Uncle Chuck is able to get to the lead under a new writer. Louise Sayas. I think he's going to be very very tough to beat I. Don't like stablemate thousand words in this spot i. just was not a fan of his last two starts. His last race was awful at Oaklawn in the slop where he had a big excuse, but his priorities in the San Felipe pay I don't think he had an excuse, and he just kind of looked Just relooked dull to me down the lane so hopefully. If you're thousand words Fan he's refreshed and runs a better race tomorrow but I think uncle. Chuck is the way to go and I think the one I would also use with is number two great power Simon, Callaghan and Drayton Van Dyke. No secret when he broke his maiden in his debut, at odds of four to five came back, and had the misfortune of running into Charlatan in an allowance race, and he was beaten twelve lengths by Charlatan and rushy that day Russia came back got his win in his very next start so. Great Power, maybe as been facing the best competition, and if Uncle Chuck isn't all that we crack up to be great power could get there at a better than expected price. Wow! You, you you your little, do not as sold on uncle. Chuck some of us are well I think alkyl GonNa win the race. I think he's going to get out in front and go, but if for some I I think the best chance of beating him would be with great power I. Don't think cosmo down along the rail. WHO's a maiden as any chance in the field? I'm not an Ano Dole Dorfman for everything. You just mentioned his signs of life. We're getting beat seven lengths spy honoring. Got, six lengths by honore be and I I'm just not convinced that thousand words is as good as a at three as he was, too. Yeah. I mean I. Think oncle trucks just GonNa. Break Out Lewis I has? I, mean he? It's. It's weird because he didn't go that fast early on in his debut, he's just supposed to be front sources. He just looks fascinating sources, and when you're a horse to beat, and you have a tactical edge. Make even tougher I mean. You're not gonna you the winter three to five, but I'm I have no. You making pick fours fives tomorrow. You can single my head anyway. You can single uncle chuck. It looks the goods and the gray three Los Alamos. Derby now I'll make the same can be said for the favourite and race number eight, the gray, great lady, m six and a half furlongs Bella. Fina has your four to five favor from the rail. She's going to sprint and this is what she wants to do in the state of California, but she did lose Los. Alamos in her lone start, and I think you know. She's done some shipping this year and I don't know. Can She win? She can absolutely when I'm not taking her on top Bobby Newman. I'm not either, and she's easily the best filly in this field it's there's no doubt about it. Her most of her races would horrify this field, but she down on the rail, which is not her favorite place to be Noah's Nah. She's. Not Shipping across country. She's getting on a plane, but she's not at her home base of Santa Anita. Which I think is a slight negative philly. She lost in her debut at Los. Alamos. I was calling the racist there then she was heavily July to affiliate that it just to be honest. Is Not that good now. That was a long time ago and obviously is a much better philly now than she was then. The philly who finished second Bella Fina last time out in the desert stormer. Is Number five hang a star. She was forty three to one that day against fina, and got beat only a length that afternoon, going six furlongs while now they're going six and a half furlongs and hanging star looks like she is headed the right direction to me when she only got. She's. Doesn't doesn't have the seasoning. Abella Fina she hasn't faced competition that Bella. Fina has the most career, but she proved last time out when Bell Athena was on our own court that she could be within a length of her and I. Don't see any reason. Hanging Star can continue to improve I. DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA get forty three to one, but I'm gonNA. Take her on top to turn the tables on Bella Fina in the Great Lady M. And I'm retrial number six amused Richard. Mandella brothers Philly back from a fourteen month layoff. Your inner a mile on the turf. Put her on a lead. Got Beat just length and a quarter first time, lasix cutback, nice tighter, dirt, Sprint training forwardly the number six of us. In the Great Lady, m all right WHO's an IRA bets? Best Bet, Bobby. An IRA bets best bet is in the can't stakes. At Delaware, Park I think goof. Oh, five to two on the morning line anywhere close run to the window. You know I thought long and hard about this. And I'm GONNA say it. Which I hope it's not for the last time. But if it doesn't happen, it will be the last time. Tacitus. In the great to suburban. Is My naira. Bats best bet. Let's see if he can get back on the win train tomorrow here on run. Happy met mild a great job as always bobby. We'll do it again next week. Have a great weekend. My friend new too happy Independence Day for Happy Fourth of July everyone. Go out and celebrate have a good weekend. Stay healthy and safe. For Bobby Lee on the big. I hope you went. All of your photo finishes Happy Independence Day Equine Forum tomorrow morning at eight have a great weekend. HR mission.

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TimeformUS Pacecast - Episode 27 - July 30, 2019

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TimeformUS Pacecast - Episode 27 - July 30, 2019

"Hi everyone welcome to the July thirtieth tradition at the time formulas pace cast on David Aragon and I'll be join the justice second by my co host cousy on the podcast. We're going to take a look back at two massive speed figures earned at Saratoga last week <hes> one being <hes> a Sunday's Amsterdam which is won by chance lot in just a runaway performance and then on Saturday imperial hint when he said that six furlong track record in the Alpha Dream Vanderbilt those were just two of the stake races at Saratoga last week also discuss a couple of the travers perhaps most notably the Jim Dandy one by tax as well as the curling stakes which was run on Friday will travel out the del Mar discuss some of the grade one action that took place last weekend will also mentioned some impressive two year olds that raced around the country from the past weekend and we'll wrap up by discussing a new feature. He took time formulas past performances at the end of the show so craig. It's a pretty big week for you ready for that big Saratoga trip. I am as matter of fact soon as I'm done here. I'll be packing up in hidden heading east to join you so yes a definitely looking forward to that looking forward to talking about some of these two races we all this weekend yeah. It looks like a good week. There's a little bit of rain predicted tomorrow but you never know what. It's going to be up here but it looks like a pretty nice week after that <hes> with the Whitney stakes being the big race on Saturday but that's upcoming next week. We're going to take a look back at the racist from this past week and I think we'll begin with those two massive speed figures that I mentioned at the top of the show beginning getting with Sunday's Amsterdam which I think was the race that everyone is talking about now because it's the one that occurred most recently and sort of a race the performances that we saw on Saturday for everyone's minds minds for a brief moment because chance a lot I mean what was this. I can't recall Cedric three-year-old take this kind of step forward in a long time this horse course he's pretty special. He is I mean it was an amazing performance. I was actually watching this in my car. After I went to a movie I generally don't do a Lotta of course playing on Sundays but I am always sure to tune into the big race and I did make it a point to to watch this one and wow I mean not not sure what to say. <hes> just opened up on a bloom away with was unnecessarily asked through the lane. I'm not sure what that was all about but a to win by twelve well when a half and a six and a half furlong race against competition like this. Is this something you're not going to see very often. Sometimes we see inflated margins route outreaches where pace dynamics kind of set it up for a superior horse but that wasn't really the case here. He was just that much better than everyone yeah yeah. I watched this race from the grandstand. My father is visiting this past weekend. We were sitting together down about the about the eighth pole watching this race and you could see the horses coming around the far turn and he just opened up this insurmountable advantage. I mean it was a foregone conclusion that he was GonNa win at that point but he just kept opening up to the stretch and you look at the time for U._S.. Pace figure tiger line for this reason people are going to see that there's that blue color coded fraction for the second figure and I think that might be a little misleading disarm because people will say well how could forty three and four be a slow pace but what it really illustrates is not so much that he went slow for the second quarter it illustrates how fast he went at the end of the race because he was on pace as based on the half mile to get about a one twenty eight time from U._S.. Final figure if you'd kept up that pace but he actually quickened up relatively speaking through the final two and a half furlongs of this race to get a one thirty seven final time speed figure <hes> just an amazing performance I was walking around Saratoga at the track after that and it was starting to empty empty out because they ran this race ridiculously late on Sunday <hes> but the people just look dumbfounded <hes> you didn't know what to make of performance like this. He just ran and so fast. I do want to talk a little bit about the speed. Figure of drew was a little difficult to make and I know some people thought it would be a little bit higher than it was. Always you talk about that yeah. It's argue a few points. I saw the buyer team gave it a one twenty one or one yeah one twenty-one which would equate to about a one forty forty one on our figures <hes> we gave it a one thirty seven final time which is buyer figures our final time so I'm not going to quibble over four points we knock down a little bit because of the peace down the ones thirty three but it was a tough figure to make I kinda made it nights ovation because the the prior desert race race eight was just the little bit too slow to be believed in you couldn't possibly group that race in with the other sprints on the day it would just it would inflate all all the others unnaturally unless you thought those horses were just awful in heaven watched the race. I'm not buying that. They were some pretty decent horses in there. I'm not saying there any champions champions but the figure out I had to give them if I use the same variant for race eight as the other races would have been ridiculously low so maybe that held the figure back a little. I I do want to note the point you make about the boy. Fraction is a really good one. That's simply an algorithm that compares the final time figure to the piece figure and if the gap is a so so much at all highlighted in blue with it so much either way at all highlighted red looking at the chart you can see the two through five finishers all team from pretty far back anybody who within earshot of that piece I dropped off the map so it's not so much at the pace was slow as it obviously wasn't it was slow for the final time that chance at ran for the other horses not so much as obviously it was just too much for them as they all just fell out of the race I I know we're getting a little in the weeds to discuss figure in too much detail. I looked at the buyer I looked at your number. This is one where I don't really have a strong opinion either way. <hes> I think the question you really have to ask yourself as you take shots lot out of the race because chance lot basically was running into a different race from the rest of the horses and you just say to yourself well did nitrous and honest Mr really run better than they did what he stevens. Did they run a little bit worse. Art figure has running just a tiny bit worse. The buyer has running just a tiny bit better <hes> I think it's it's really really hard to say and it's <hes> I could go either way on this one and I think it's a good point you make about about race being a little bit problematic. <hes> it is a problematic. I took a look at it for a while or rather I should say problematic time compared to the rest of the day because it was a weird race a race that a horse that was not expected to run as well as she did <hes> <hes> looking at just got off the board and was very live and ran a race better than she had ever run before and the rest of the field they had formed that was kind of up and down on all over the place <hes> the second place finisher actually <hes> one of her past figures. I was one that I struggled with a long time for a long time just seeing it really made sense ends and I was looking back at it to kind of remind myself and if she actually rammed that number the second place Finisher Queen of everything her prior big figure on the same day that army mule ran his huge figure in the Carter order so it was kind of funny that these two figures were sort of connected in that way <hes> but no chance a lot he's he's something else and if he can run this race back in the Allen Jerkins I think we'll have to start calling him. The best sprinter in the country. We'll talk about divorce coming up next imperial hint who also ran a big figure on Saturday but chance lots performance was pretty special speaking about that vanderbilt imperial hint broke the track record and I know some people sometimes make a little bit too much about breaking breaking track records because it really does depend on the speed of the racetrack in the circumstances and sometimes track biases but this six furlong track record at Saratoga. I mean all of the top almost the top sprinters in the history of horse racing <hes> have run six furlongs at Saratoga and none of the front faster than one away spikes town untied at once this was Spanish riddles record going back to nineteen seventy two <hes>. I know I've been at Saratoga for a lot of A._G.. Vanderbilt's and some really top sprinters of running them come. I'm close. They've never surpassed it. I know the track was somewhat on the quick side on Saturday and Sunday but imperial performance was still pretty special it was he got Outta. One thirty six said time for U._S.. Speed figure one thirty nine on final time again knocked down just a little bit because of the slow pace and again that slows relative tipped the final time but this another jaw dropping performance is eastward says we're coming off earner. It was obvious he was going to win easy. He just looked like the old imperial hint the one we saw as a runner up in the Breeders Cup a couple years ago the one who's the one in I think it was the same race a a couple of years ago. Maybe it was the Vosper I can't remember now but where he just one with ridiculous disdain where he was your down for the final basically quarter-mile <hes> so yeah he's back to form after Dubai. No doubt I do think we gotta talk about the track on Saturday in the context of this race in how much help them them and how much did it hurt. Horses like Matola and forensic fire who kind of moved to the rail for some unknown reason but this just another really big effort Urda. I do like this one just a little bit more than chance a lot in the fact that he showed he can sit off the pace a little bit but again the all these has to be weighed in the track. I think the bias this was that strong on Saturday that just has to be part of the discussion imperial hinges such an easy horse to root for because you see them in person. He's just this tiny little L. thing. He doesn't look like he stacks up from a physical standpoint against the other horses in the race and coming through the stretch you could just see his little legs. We're moving so much faster than everybody else's because he's got to to maintain that speed and he's just a really likable horse and while he had never run a speed figure quite up to this level before he had put forth some really nice performances in the ask you mentioned his vosper last year he arguably could have run a much faster final time that the ended up doing and it's just great to see him get back had hinted in Dubai that he might be on the right. I track again but you never trust those words coming back from Dubai especially with layoffs <hes> but <hes> this one came back and did well as you mentioned the track while while it helped imperial hint don't allow them to run faster what it did was it really compromised his main foes forensic fire who you mentioned especially Mottola who it was really compromised by his draw in this race because you kind of knew that mottola would have to overcome some adversity going in a given the way the track was playing because you could see from early on the day that we still had that dead rail situation. That was something that you really just couldn't miss on Fridays Card Fridays card which we'll get to in a second was one of the worst ed rails that I think I've ever seen Saratoga and Matali. They had to write him aggressively. I don't think it would have been a good strategy to take back trying to get off the rail. <hes> he just played the hand that was dealt Elton and he couldn't do much about it. I don't think it's totally surprising imperial hint showed up and beat Natoli who also showed up and ran fine in this race. He got a one twenty seven a time formula speed vicar which has nothing to sneeze at. It's just there was no way he was going to be an imperial. Hint under these circumstances yeah totally agree with that and you know one wanting to keep in mind you made a good point about the figure not being inflated because it didn't make him run any faster and while we do look at all the horses in a situation like this the figures figures are largely based on horses run their their best races which imperial hinted were were not gonNa look at Matola and assume that he ran his best races which is is in the low to mid thirties and base effect varian on that. They're just another figure making thing there that as you say it didn't really help him run and faster but it probably heard a couple of the others yeah we'll move onto the other stakes race <hes> the sandwiched between the two on Saturday the turf stakes the bowling green going a mile and three eighths for the older horses and kind of frustrating rates to watch unless you've got the winner channel Cat. It was a big price in this race because it seemed like they were few possible speeds feeds on paper including horses like Cacho and are gone who seemed like he was in the race to be the speed for whatever reason neither of those horses went and Lewis. I think accents what was happening from his outside post position had a plan in just sent channel Cat to the front and made all the running through pretty moderate I'm definitely going to be making a Lotta trip notes for this one yet. The disappointment in the race I think was channel maker who was a little bit wide around both turns but that's a trip that he can deal a wet. He was up close to that place and he didn't really have the energy to finish it off. The Way Channel Cat did <hes> so he was sort of the disappointment. I don't know what the excuse was for him other than the wide trip trip the horses I think we're compromised by not getting clear runs are Clo- who got clear in the last eighth of a mile but he's a horse that needs to wind up a little bit he doesn't have the best turn Senate foot and he didn't get to do that having to wait behind horses at the top of the stretch and the horse that was really compromised to my chagrin was with savage joy. I love Sadler's joy and I I think he was really ready to go off the layoff here but I mean a horse like him. In a payslips race the last place you want to see him is just stuck on the rail behind a wall of horses and Hotter Casto they just really had nowhere to go until about the final sixteenth and even then he was trying to rally through a position on the rail where there was just not really a whole there and <hes> he's a horse that I think you can give a passport in this race and he'll be better for it when they come back for the store dancer that said I'm not sure that this is the strongest group of horses overall and I know we talked talked in the past about bricks and mortar being division later. I don't know if I'd be that afraid of bricks and mortar stretching out longer distances like this if you've got if he has to face these horses because they're okay but I'm not sure that they're really the kind of great types that used to in this division. No the winner got a one twenty six which is a weak grade. One more like a great do type figure and I really think that's what we're looking at like you said maybe with some trips I totally with you on sidewards joy actually bet them in here and and you know kind of pulling my hair out at the trip but no no blaming the jockey there which is sometimes you just get unfortunate circumstances. I don't think there was a whole could do in this equation but I agree with you. Bricks and mortar still lead the division I I wouldn't have any problem better against these forces at eleven furlongs. I assume he's GONNA show up in the Arlington. Only two million have been tracking it but at some point I imagine they're going to want to try him longer. G. As we get to the Breeders Cup either go a mile or a mile and a half. There's nothing in between we so I'm looking forward to see from him. Yeah with him. I think either they run the Breeders Cup. Go the Breeders Cup turf the mile and a half or they just skip it and do something else i. I'm not really sure I see him going into Breeders Cup Mile but that's Chad Brown's decision so we'll see what ends up happening with him move onto a couple of travers. Perhaps that were run this past weekend at Saratoga the most notable one of course was the Jim Dandy which was on Saturday and some of the top players from the triple crown trail where we're back in this Jim Jim Dandy and a little bit upset as tax got the victory here another one of these races though that was definitely affected by the track bias and the horse that got the the most savvy ride. I think is the horse that won the race. Oh no doubt I love the ride by Rod Ortiz here. When I I watch that I thought maybe Kinda China snookered war well a little bit but as I watched a replay I think were a will was just to Kina and <unk>? The rider had no choice but the let him go. I'm not sure why he moved over to the inside. That was a little puzzling but tax got a good position off that bad rail. He looked like the tax that we saw back in February march and April roll not the one that we saw in the Derby and we did see signs of that in the Belmont where he ran a pretty good race but this was the good acts I know Danny Garg ahead been saying he expected the big effort that he was training like a new horse like the develop and and he really ran well him and Tacitus both got one twenty five time form U._S. speed figures. I will admit this. This was an easy speed figure to make it's possible. It's a few points too high at. I don't think it's too low by any means but it it was a good effort and I also think there's some trips in here from one like I said were a will was really coon in here <hes> global campaign. I have no idea what they we're thinking with them. I believe he was taken back off. The face and somebody actually twitter sent me a video where the trainer said that was the plan so oh you can shake your head and that's why why you'd WanNa take speed Orson Igam off of the I have no idea but acid. This is certainly the horse that I think most people would say ran the best race <hes> believe it or not. I actually think it has more to do with running on the the rail. The majority of the race in it does start. Obviously the start wasn't ideal but I you don't think it was as bad as people are making it out to be made that ground up really quick. He was right back with the pack a few strides after it so it's just such it's obvious trouble that I am not going to put as much stock in it. As give wary was positioned during the rates you could give an entire seminar trip handicapping just based on this one six six were raised because there was a lot going on in terms of the trips and the break just because you were mentioning that I think one of the reasons that it didn't hurt Tacitus as much as it might have is because they just went so slowly and that opening quarter mile and allowed to get back into the race quick more quickly than they otherwise might have been able to because there are a lot of games going on on on the front end. I do think Iran Ortiz who I mean whether he came to to this knowledge is on his own or whether they'd connections told him to ride this way who knows <hes> <hes> you clearly did not want to be on the rail and I do think he sort of laid a trap for Tyler Kathleen Board will buy buy store securing the lead men taking back which made war of will get keen and he ran outside of him and I agree with a bad move to go to the rail on Tyler appleans part after that <hes> but <hes> I read Ortiz definitely want to get outside and he got that position the the move to put tacitus on the rail from the back of the pack was pretty puzzling because he had any option at that outpoint when you're behind horses you can just on the outside not take dirt on her face and lose a little bit of ground but sit out in the best part of the racetrack and he did not take that path he it went down to the inside and got into some traffic trouble and was on the dead rail which is not really wanted to be. I mean tacitus on a fair racetrack. I have to think would've won this race multiple links. I don't think there's really any doubt about that. Nothing against tax taxes a good horse but I mean you gotta take into consideration how the track was playing and more of will is a horse that I think people are going to be really down. We'll after this race and he did not run nearly as badly as it seems he actually ran fine all things considered because he spent more time on that rail than anybody else <hes> going down there after two furlongs staying there for the entire race and you just couldn't do that and be successful on Friday or Saturday at Saratoga so these are horses he were and Tacitus but I would definitely give a pass to if they're showing up in the traverse again. It's going to be a really wide open travers because a lot of these horses since the triple crown running very similar speed figures years they've been taking some small steps forward and I think it's going to be a fundraise to handicap and we can move right onto the curling because I think we saw some forces on Friday and this <hes> listed listed stakes race that is that can be players in the travers as well potentially. They've got a little bit get a little bit faster but highest honors endorsed and especially looking at bikinis are all horses that I think are very interesting moving forward yeah. The KIRWIN didn't get as big a figure in deservedly so the winner got a one seventeen endorsed endorsed the one sixteen it wasn't expected to be as good a racist the Jim Dandy it never is but I thought we had some good in a good quality effort here once again like you said Friday I think the track was derail as we've ever seen and I think that played a huge part and looking at bikinis race. I'm willing just to put a line to do that one for him now whether that makes them a player in the travers or not is debatable. Kinda depends who shows up how much other speeds in there and you know the trek certainly helped the top two finishers but eastern enough efforts but if I wanted one outta here will probably be looking at Clooney's <hes> Rowayton hopefully their experiment lament with him going long as over. I don't think this one's any parts earn so looking forward to him. Cutting back sprints where I think he shows some promise I after what we saw some from MHM Sansonetti may not want to come back in the Allen Jerkins. Is that might be a futile effort but now decent race but I think it's what we expected. It was probably on the grade three level avoid a progressive agenda Andy which is great one great a racist Ami year with solid efforts yet looking at bikinis was all is a horse that I know the barn really thought highly of off his allowance when last time he was two for two coming into this caroline and he's one that I would definitely get a pass too when I really do you hope the Chad Brown considers running them in the travers because it is a wide open race and I love to cause any clear leader. You have to be afraid of in that race I mean maximum. Security is the division leader at this point but I think it's a tenuous lead at best and <hes> it's it's hard to quantify how detrimental the rail was in terms of <hes> seconds or lengths on Friday but all I know is watching the racist throughout the day and especially watching the headlines of the racist which I think is really informative courses that spend a significant amount of time either in that first PAP or even in the second path just one off the rail <hes>. We're just nowhere at the ends of these races. I mean some of them. Were even eased. I mean you just look at this race. I direct order was a long shot but direct order was the only other horse race on the rail and he didn't even finish the race. I mean he had to be eased after about a mile because you just could not continue galloping down on that rail position and for whatever reason I guess how your Castawano wasn't clued in or didn't know he had rental ridden a whole lot of races on Friday and he just sent him down there and it was a disaster I mean I don't think it's a stretch to say looking at bikinis would've won this race and would have won it easily. <hes> had he been outside read <hes>. I really don't think that's exaggerating at all and this is a good horse and maybe it's going to be too soon to run in the travers because he's only had three starts but <hes> he's a really talented two three rolled and nothing gets highest honors endorse tour are nice horses also and they are. They're also pretty lightly raced can move forward but looking at Bikini says one that I still be very high on out this race yeah totally agree and like. I said that this was not a reach as good as the gym the that's why I'd be very lukewarm about a year the op too if they show up in forever's. I'm not saying they shouldn't take shot. I mean why not you got a good three year old. What better reached the point too but I just don't think they're of that quality but looking at Bikini certainly gets an which use an inner this these are the kind of days we complain about them as handicappers but they really can offer the most value going forward? If you just make good notes stay in deepening their records and you know we're talking about the bias now but two months from now if you don't do your homework people are GonNa Forget they just look at the past performances NSA's lines. I intend to go off though so while it's not fun on those days when you bet horses out our own a bad rayle at certainly can provide some payoff going forward Gordon and I actually liked the strong by stays for <unk>. I totally agree with that. They're having some of these races back there. There are a lot of horses bet back in the future sure and I'm sure I'll be highlighting those in the weeks and months to come <hes> we'll discuss some of the other races that took place on Sarah at Saratoga last week briefly <hes> the promise was was run on Wednesday and it was a big upset as minutes to start him. Who I believe is the longest shot on the board? <hes> got to the front end somewhat surprising rising fashion over mischief and was just able to control this race on the lead. The fractions were not that fast compared to the final time and nobody could make up any ground in the stretch. I I know this horse hadn't really run quite fast in the past but she'd always been a decent sprinter and I think she just found the right circumstances in this promise is she was a horse on our a pace project. They're certainly look to have a shot. We didn't have much beaten here. We had our I think sit and second in the base projector in a rates that we thought would fever always eat and it just came down the mischief and it looked like to me. She's a horse who just is over the top by. She ran a huge race on on Derby weekend where she she popped it. I think it was on Derby Day itself. Got a nice one twenty five and then she came back and won again with a one eighteen but that was a really tough race where she go with the super fast of fifty for a long time before finally putting her away and she just looked like a horse that those two races had taken something out of her. I'm not a big bounce skies is i. I don't like to call it a balance. I think it's more reforms like oh you're on Derby Day and I think she might be on the downside and when you get that from from a heavy favourite favorite like this a kind of opens up the the race the other horses a champion ran a good race to be second. She was second in the Breeders Cup this. She's always going to become in late. I'm sure she'll appreciate seven furlongs a bit more than six but he's a horse who's never run particularly fast and in the end the one fourteen the winner got is it's just so so it's not really a great to figure even for Phillies of mayors and I'm not going to be too anxious about any of the horses back <unk> Outta this yet mischief <hes> I was a little disappointed in And for whatever reason they seemed intent on taking her back behind minute to start in this race. Ricardo Santana was not really asking her out of the gate and seemed to want to get into that pocket position behind the leader <hes>. I don't know why that was the plan. I never liked that speed horses when you're sort of half links the three quarters of a length back inside of another horse. I think that's always just a difficult place to be and it didn't work out for her. <hes> I guess unsurprisingly maybe she is telling off. I think that's valid. She certainly did not seem a sharp as she she did on Derby Day <hes> but performance to back to back in the rocks Alanna it wasn't bad she had a really difficult <hes> pace to deal with that race in held on well <hes> <hes> but <hes> we'll see if she can bounce back future. She's a horse that is really gritty when she gets in a dogfight. She tries really hard. She just seemed a little bit dull on this race and maybe that was due the tactics. Maybe she's not doing well. We'll see but I hope she can bounce back in the future because I I do think she's the best of this group <hes>. She just didn't show it in this race right now. I'm totally with you on that trip by the way there's no trip I hate more than being on the rail but not quite in front with another horse distant. Oh a half land or three quarters in in front of your horses hate that trip it and it certainly could have been the case here. We'll talk about some non stakes races that took place last week at Saratoga starting on Wednesday with an optional claiming race that was won by annals of time now annals time <hes> really taking you back at a time machine to remember when this world has really good got I think he won the two thousand sixteen <hes> Hollywood derby a grade one out there <hes> del Mar and it's taken a long time for Chad Brown to sort of get him back in the groove Movin. Get racing consistently again. He's a six year old now but based on this performance he could step right back up into graded stakes company. Perhaps grade one or grade two accompany the very competitive 'cause just from a visual standpoint I mean he laid over this field and he was really impressive. Come into the land he was. I mean he's clearly a grade. Read one horse when he's right. He got a one twenty three time formula speed figure for this race like you said there wasn't a whole lot of competition if he came back and form and he ran into it you want as easy as a good you know could have but you have to be weary of a six year-old that only has seven starts in our past performances are lots of red blinds for a off so this was a fairly all lay also so maybe Chad was able to figure something out with them and keep them going always hope for that. We need more horses the running these days are running and more offense so hopefully he's good but you know I'll just wait to see where he shows up and if he can stay together yeah chapter did say immediately only after the race that they're going to the store dancer next and based on the booby saw on the bowling green. I wouldn't be surprised at times after the favorite in the store dancer because he does have that potential to be that kind of horse and based on this performance. It's a logical next step. He's just gotTa stay sound as you were saying because that's always the concern with these older horses her so lightly raced but when he's right he's very good. <hes> we'll talk about two two year old maiden races that took place last week <hes> on Wednesday now there was a lot of weird bedding this week at Saratoga but perhaps the weirdest of all and there was. They got bet down a lot that I didn't expect that happens happened. Some time to time at Saratoga horses have good workouts and they might be live and sometimes you don't know until the day of the race but one of the most bizarre horses that I saw go up at odds was another miracle who want a Wednesday maiden race based on his excellent debut at Belmont courses like him usually two to five a three to five in their second star in Saratoga somehow he went off a two to one but he won like he probably should have been two to five yeah. That was a strange when I was watching that day that was a little shocked by this actually off the turf race. If I remember right and a Lotta horses scratch <unk> didn't appear to be much left in there and he was actually coming out of a race we talked about in this segment last time as being a strong race. I don't remember the name of the winner of Atma head but it wasn't any slouch racing racing in he ran a good second day with the ninety three speed figure he got a one or two for this effort. I won very easily and I actually think both the top two are are very good. Horses Irish Miss. I thought ran very well. Kinda broke bad. The pace wasn't all that quick and still made a big run late for a trainer. Ingraham motion doesn't usually have them cranked up. I I'm out so both of these newer ones. I WanNa see going forward. Yeah WanNa say the winner of another miracles IOS debut was a horse named green light go for Jimmy Jerkins who might be one of the favorites in the Saratoga special if he's still trading towards that race because he was very impressive that day and <hes> another miracle <unk> logical next step board in this race in one. I'm not going to be surprised if he ends up on from the future because he was entered for tour from this race and he's a son of American Erkin Pharaoh whose progeny do seem to be doing quite well on the tour of and he's got enough to pedigree on the damn side so I know that's the intention lupus horse surprisingly fast off the turf race often you see these off the turf races get lower speed figures than the schedule dirt races but the horses in this race really seemed to handle the dirt just fine and I agree with you about the second place Finisher Irish Mia's for Graham motion who <hes> His dad is actually a half sister to Irish war cry so he did have dirt pedigree and he did welded up for a second enclosing into a pretty moderate moderate pace after a bad start. Both of these seem like really nice horses on Saturday. We saw what looked like a loaded two year old maiden race but it didn't really turn out that way as shoplifted got off. The board is part of an entry he was the Steve asmussen trained have been todd pletcher trained runner did didn't run that well as his his stablemate late but <hes> shoplifted was on the best part of the Taraq because this was one of those bias days he was short of between horses into two path early and got out into the four or five paths in the stretch and once it got to the best part of the race track. I really thought shoplift shoplifted finished off the race really well he did he certainly ran well. He got a hundred times form in U._S.. Speed figure as you say. There was no doubt which half of the entry was being bad here. If you've followed Saratoga the last couple years as I think I mentioned on twitter twitter someday. We're GONNA see a thirty for thirty on whatever happened. The Todd Pletcher is I'm not really sure what what is going on with him but shoplifted brand very well like you said out in the middle with a track but he was clearly the best horse year. Everybody seems to know it is the worst wound up going off at three to five and I hope to see this one back. In one of the stakes races they have coming up at Saratoga. Yeah just a quick shout out to the runner up Kowalski who took a big step for debate Lucas second time out Peter brant owned runner. He was is on the rail for a good part of the race especially around the far. Turn is about the two pattern the stretch <hes> so he's a runner that was a little bit compromised by the track and one that probably will take another step forward next. I now possibly more distance so I think both of these top two finishers our good horses <hes> what's the Delmar to discuss them the races that took place near this past weekend <hes> there were a couple of grade one events <hes> beginning with the bing crosby which was run on Saturday and <hes> sister on horse that we've talked about a number of times on the podcast ask <hes> they got him back on going back to late winter and it's just really turned his career around <hes> you WanNa believe a great to race going all the way back to March and <hes> he think he was second the San Carlos in May and got his grade one victory here in the bing crosby seemed like there was a bunch of speed on paper but he was a little bit faster than the other the horses early and held them off late Yellen Tie Foam U._S.. This source almost look like a layover. Sometimes it works out that way now that said it didn't turn out to be a very good race for grade one. He only got a one seventeen time for U._S._B.. Figure I think part of that is the tepid base that he got away with a he did turn back from seven furlongs last time where where he was involved in a brutal Dole assist Ron. I'm talking about but you know to be honest. I wasn't blown runaway by this win. A desert wall was making up some ground late despite that slow pace and like I said over all that one seven figure is more in allowance type bigger than a great one so I'm a little iffy on this racer and where I stand I think system probably has a little more in the tank but this wasn't wasn't blown away at all and the rest of the field was disappointing. That's eight of yeah. I think the real disappointments were the horse ship Denver this race like I believe A.. Recruiting ready particularly who was the favorite in this race coming from the East Coast for Stanley off. He just didn't seem to have as usual early speed and was was really done a long way out so I think without him. Performing the race did get a lot easier at it made this drought task easier because he was the main base competition and it just didn't turn out that way a cool story nice horse one that was originally turf wars ends up being best on the dirt but I agree with you not really a typical grade one type of speed beat figure <hes> we did see more of that though agreed one type of number in the Clement Hirsch on Sunday as a really nice battle between all these Candian secret spice took place <hes> all his candy as a horse that had really been more of a turf runner throughout the majority of her career think this was just her second start on the dirt. She's now two for two on the dirt but she was really really game to battle back inside the secrets by slate yeah. I thought this was a really good effort. Always Candy is just say she won this summer oaks as a three year old with a nice one fourteen and then she moved turf inch Watchi- rent some good races. She seemed to get pigeonholed into being a turf force owes licensee or back on third in into back that up. We don't have the official figure yet. My partner does all the figures for California. He's actually out in Los Angeles and but he tells me it's going to be about a one twenty three and looking at the piece of the race. It's a <hes> the piece was pretty darn quick. I imagine most of the figures are going to be read read the pace figures <hes> so she told opened up and was game. I think she actually got passed a little bit by secret spice but I think both of the top two ran very well here and M._b.. Contenders in that division secrets by seems like one of these horses. That's just a true miler. It seems like once she gets that even that last sixteen going farther than a mile. It's just a little bit too much for her to handle. We saw that <unk> the Balaj Orion when she was second to she's Julie She just bay this big move off the farm. She was going to win easily and then she just couldn't quite carry it forward over the past the final furlong and kind of the same thing here. She looked like she was not one a five win the race at the Eighth Pole and all his candy got game and came back but secret spice just couldn't quite carry forward that momentum at the end of the race and it's difficult for a horse like her because most of these top races are at a mindless extent or a mile and a half of not sure she's the kind that they could turn back to seven furlongs and she just seems like she's a little in between distances. <hes> the big disappointment of the race of course was paradise woods who just is not the kind of horse that she suggested she might be three bad gor going all the way back to a three year old <unk> season. She's just so up and down and she's just all or nothing kind of horse I mean she she shows up with these big efforts one day just doesn't show up with them. The next day and most of the time she's just disappointment yet and I think this is at least twice in a row where she hasn't broke particularly well when she's a horse that needs to be rig right up owner near the lead runner best and to me. That's never a good sign. When an older horse starts having gait problems eight usually is the beginning of the end so these a horse had always gets? It's bad I I always try to beaters. Sometimes it works and for to be honest most times it works the rights for his. He's still being bad off at San Benito where she just Maoist yield in people keep open for a return to that but it just never really happened. One of my favorite courses in California is super the second winter campaign who is just one of these horses who wants to run all day. He's got no speed at all. He's going to drop way out of his races in the early going but I'd be they've got a ride in quite a bit to get into these races. He doesn't do it on his own but once he gets there he just sorta relentlessly grinds down these fields and <hes> this is just just his specialty kind of race. This mile race on the dirt and campaigns always going to be topping races at this distance yeah. He was a horse that I actually thought shoot a one. I think it was on Belmont Day when he shipped in L.. Mine just just had a rough trip. He looked to have this field over. A barrel wits in the post was the only really Orson his league. If he <unk> and to his credit he ran quite well campaign. If you watch system bedroom at three to five you had to have some anxious moments as with about three furlongs to go he looked done and dusted to me. I thought he was going to get but the jockey Barranco just kept jumping on him. Kept working didn't give up on him and he finally they kicked it in it and at the end he was really running. It wasn't just that he wore down at tired Eighteen at a mile and a quarter to a one in the Finnish though this is sue who looks like probably the further they go to better and unfortunately for him. We don't go much further otherness very often but he's a horse can just run all day at the beginning of the yard is wondering if he might be one of those horses they could improve enough to contest racist going like a mile and a quarter. I know we tried the Santa Anita Handicap. I believe although the pace of that race just didn't sit up for him at all <hes> but he probably is not really Breeders Cup classic kind awards they think that competition would be too tough for him but there are plenty of marathon races out there these days they are planning on the East Coast. I'm not sure if there are any more out in California I know run marathons stakes which used to be the Breeders Cup Marathon and I'm sure that's on the schedule for him but it does seem like he's a horse that needs at least a mile and behalf to put forth his best effort. Yeah no doubt we'll move onto the final race. We'll talk about for two actually two more races from del Mar the final <hes> allowance race <hes> were leading score made his return for Bob Baffert now. This is a horse who is a half brother Indian blessing. I think he's either a five five or six year old now and this was his first start since November. Twenty seventeen didn't really take any money you went off at nine to one in this race <hes> but he earned a pretty high time informed speed figure mostly due to the fact that he set a really fast pace he did. He's a horse set showed some potential but he's another one like you said he's six years old he he hasn't I've been able to make it to the track. Very often layoff lines had to do a double take. Oh we actually show the number of days in our past performances awesome for him. It was six hundred twenty five days so this is a good effort to get a one twenty-one eat figure in here at stakes level speed figures but we'll we'll see if he can stay on the track and see where he turns up next have a hard time getting too excited about older horses like this hopefully does put it together. He's in the hands hands a Bob Baffert who certainly knows what he's doing and has kept together before so it will be interesting to follow if he can stay sound. I know a lot of these projects auditing midnight lute or like these big black giants <hes> these dark bay giants they'd be they just look <hes> like bigger than the other horses around them. That's definitely the case with leading score and I would imagine it's Kinda hard to keep a horse like that sound too <hes> just carries that much size weight and <hes> that he's clearly awesome ability. I thought it was a little curious. They've started back at a mile that seems like a really demanding distance for a horse that had previously run his best speeds shorter <hes> and he might want don't do that in the future but if they could keep going kind of like annals time he's a horse that could be sticks level or graded stakes level. It just might be passed as prime. We'll see if they can do it but he's definitely needed time between races in the past and we'll speak with the bomb one more thing I wanted to say yeah. This is a horse that like I said earlier. I'm not a big bounce guide but if ever a horse is going to bounce off an effort this is where this coming off that long layoff and then getting in a hard fought race he's worried doled with another horse going really fast thoroughly though I would definitely be leery of the source at the windows if he came back with probably in the next four or five weeks yeah I I would agree with that. You kind of walk horses like this what having a little bit of time between starts and we'll see what happens <hes> but he definitely does have some ability in there somewhere are Bob African extract it <hes> sticking with Bob Baffert horses will wrap up del Mar from this past week with the first race on Sunday Bayden events that had some people buzzing thing as immediate impact a two year old filly. She's by into mischief <hes> the damn side. She's a half sister to arrogate so she's definitely whitebread to be a star and she looked like she might be one in this debut not sure what was behind her but she certainly with a lot of these she did it again. This it came from that Sunday. Don't have the official figure yet but but my assistant tells me the race will get about ninety three so nothing to were shattering on the figure front but I'm not answer that really matters in a race like this I she clearly had plenty left. Is I think she almost surely wants to go further though I don't even think that ninety the threes a bad thing it's I'm not going to be lining up to bet against her. If she shows up in the del Mar debutante the next out or a similar stakes raise so good the effort in an exciting one the foul yeah arrogant was known for that big reaching stride and well well. This doesn't seem to have the same size as him a she does have a nice stride honor a as far as I could tell making out from the replay and she was really finishing strongly and if you watch the Gal about she put about fifteen lengths between ourselves and the rest of the field so she was still galloping out strong after the race but probably no surprise that she does want to go farther based on pedigree and one to watch. We'll see if BOB BAFFERT has its many bullets to fire as he good last year at del Mar where he just seemed win every year old made it race in <hes> I guess he's getting off to the right start again but it seems like a potentially good one based on pedigree and we'll wrap up by sticking with the two year olds going to Ellis Park another race that had a lot of people buzzing was Saturday maiden win by Dennis's moment omen for Dale Romans <hes>. This is a horse that some people might remember was supposed to make his debut. I guess he did make his debut. At Churchill downs a couple of months ago and had <hes> just things didn't go right at the horse vetoed Raanan coming out of the gate and I think he actually lost the writer maybe a furlong out as they broke for the clubhouse turn and <hes> just a total disaster what you WanNa have happened while highly regarded horse but he got to run second time out and boy. Did he ever run yeah hi this is this is pretty amazing. He got one eighteen time for U._S.. Speed figure which I went and I searched all the way back the twenty fifteen and it was the fastest fastest two year old figure I've ever made through July so I checked through August. It was the fastest through that any whore to your own at ever run through August I didn't even even moved it to September in the only faster horse and that was just by day was Bolt Doro last year and I think it was the front runner at run that big big but somewhat more controversy or one twenty five time form U._S. speed figure that day so this this was a special effort in if you watch it it's this visibly unbelievable achievable. I mean who knows what he was against. He said a relatively moderate East but this is clearly a horse with some serious ability. I know they'll Romans. Romans at Brainer said he thinks it's the best horse he's ever had. The horse wind up going off four to five off a crazy eight to one morning line as a hype was out on a source. I everybody kind of knew about it but if you haven't watched it's race. It's worth going to watch because this looks like a season four year old to me more than a year old the away he raised in the way he finished all through the main almost had to do a double take to make sure that this was not a three year old horse Mitt breaking his maiden not a two year old because you don't see many horses going seven furlongs two year old and and finishing the way that he did I mean he ran the race like he really does want to run all day and you look at his pedigree and he's supposed I want to do that because he's by his now who who's getting up there in years as a sire but he's still cracking out some good ones from time to time in the Tis now's can definitely go longer distances in on the damn side sidewalls down hasn't produced anything except him yet <hes> the dams have two times mistress who was a multiple stakes winner between sprint distances going all the way out to a model as woolas most happy Fella who is a lot of people will follow New York racing remember. He was sort of a a mile and an eighth on the dirt specialist. I think he won a bunch of races doing that. At Saratoga <hes> not really up the stakes level but sort of at the allowance level <hes> definitely a stamina influence there so <hes> Dennis's moment is a horse that should be just fine going as far I they're gonNA races as a two year old based on this figure. He doesn't have to get any faster to be winning some grade one races pretty soon so <hes> it seems like Dell Romans has a very very special horse on his hands he does. I should mention that it was a one eighteen overall speed here but the final time was a one twenty four again knocked down a little bit because of the the figure he got to the half mile and how fast he finished off the race but like you said that one eight whether it's a one eighteen or one twenty four he's GonNa Tower over whoever shows shows up against next time it's a matter he can reproduce it and you know I want to mention it. I watched P._T._i.. Most as they do an over under if you had set the over under at point five on the number of times that we talk about L._S.. Park on this side of probably taking the under so clearly a special reach for Morris like it does have a talking about a maiden race for mallets. It's del Romans that brings us there because I didn't a couple of years ago. He debuted that were not this time. I want to say that was pathetic. Name <hes> who yeah it was so good and second to classic empire in the Breeders Cup juvenile before he was retired tired so <hes> del Romans does send some good ones to Ellis park once in a while but we're not accustomed to seeing it that often so funny that the good horse come from anywhere anywhere apparently that's the racing will discuss this week. Let's just wrap up the show by talking about a <hes> an addition to the time for me mess P._p.'s that you might notice in in the future. I don't think you're adding retroactively. I think you said but it's something we'll see going forward and <hes> that's a new code to what was previously termed a question mark eight years and you might remember going back years if it used the time for me recipe is maybe three years ago you sometimes we'd see a question mark next to the speed figure <hes> which would neom that it was a figure that we didn't have full confidence in or that was created under not circumstances that were not ideal and one that we want to monitor moving forward <hes> but it didn't give a whole lot of detail about why that determination was made <hes> and now we have some codes with letters next to the race rating in time from yes P P is that will allow you to see why a speed figure <hes> might not have our full confidence <hes> the one that you might see quite often is a be next to the rating which means that the race was broken out from the other races on the card because otherwise they would not have made sense in the context of the day and all you talk about a craig a new code is being added to that list the B you mentioned like racy at Saratoga on Sunday will be a perfect example. I'm almost sure I used it there disease. He is a pretty simple when it's one. I'm using where we don't have a S- figures for racists that actually had caulking stake in trustworthy hawking's but we're using it for setups that are basically new detracts where the running the distance they have run before like for example Worrell this year started running six and a half furlongs along again a distance they had run in many years probably at least a decade. They don't really have a baseline yet to make these figures. We're going to see get more often on turf where rails move around the lot runups change quite a bit and you don't WanNa make pace figures for example say at Gulfstream in May run a Mile Milo sixteen threes with Rayo at seventy two feet with a hundred foot run up and all of a sudden they start running with a two hundred foot run up so you really don't WanNa use the baseline from the other wind so sometimes there's just nothing to go on and I'd rather give no figures than give guesses or bad east figures than those spots ought so all disease telling you is it. It's either a new setup or one. That's very rarely run usually like at least n data points in my database Abass before route established a bee's fine upper preferably much more than that. I mean there's there's some tracks for example. You know six furlongs at a place like mount on the year. I might have thousands so you know it's just a way of saying hey this is a race where we just didn't have enough data to make figures yet. I think you might see sometimes the the lack of pace figures running line and think oh. Is that a mistake or or why is that the case and this will tell you that it's it's intentional to leave them out because there's just not the data Ada to have any confidence in what otherwise would be there under the circumstances so just a little something to to sort of the alleviate some confusion that might be there otherwise so it's all we have for this week Craig all you get on your flight and down your way to Saratoga looking forward to seeing you later this week and we'll aplenty to discuss when we do the podcast to get next week because it's a big week of racing coming up by the Whitney stakes on Saturday is the future about their other races on that card <hes> graded stakes events. There's also a continuation of the gets Neemrana I believe it's the Turf Trinity and the Turf Tiara at Dumb Ida Saratoga Saratoga Oaks on Friday and the Saratoga Derby on Sunday so some big cards at Saratoga next week. I'm will discuss the other venues as well <hes>

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - November 15th 2019

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - November 15th 2019

"Originating from our Jimmy Johns of Lexington studio welcome to the weekend stakes tree view presented by naira Beth's this big changes roles by the quarter pole tuned to half links clear. Mr Misunderstood POPs outside for the stretch drive and it's coming with a bid now free sixteenths to go talks one to its big changes down inside Mr Misunderstood outside Mr Misunderstood. It's up to the lead at the poll. Big changes battles on but what is second with one hundred yards to go. Mr Misunderstood big changes. It'll be that way under the wire. Mr Misunderstood the winner. Big changes second team call. There's very Sir Dudley digs for now. Here's Bobby Newman. And Steve Kraus key and welcome to the weekend stakes preview you presented by naira vets or the stretch run of the two thousand eighteen river city from Churchill downs. ONE BY MR missed understood and and he will have a chance to defend his title. This year in tomorrow's running of the river city at Churchill. Downs Bobby Newman in Florida Steve. GRABOWSKI UP IN IN NEW YORK Steve. Welcome to another big weekend here on the weekends stakes preview. Hey bobby good to be here. I'm looking forward to going over a bunch of these good sprint in turf route races. A Nice weekend for six nice mix of graded stakes ungraded stakes racing here in the states racing up in Canada. Good stake Saturday a few good steaks on Sunday. And we'll get to them right after this folks. The best place to play is over at naira. Bets Dot COM use Promo Code H. R. N.. Two hundred to open a new account. Then that two hundred dollars in the first two weeks of opening your account and have that two hundred dollars deposit right back into it again H. R. are and two hundred is the Promo Code over it. NAIRA BETS DOT COM and Steve. I could use that free two hundred eight about now once as we are you. Only you only get to claim it once. But he claiming that's that's a great deal that our friends at naira bets have going all right so let's get right into it. We've got eleven racist to look at in this hour. We're GONNA start it right in your backyard over with the hundred thousand dollar other key sense stakes. This is for two year old fillies. Their New York breads going six furlongs on the main track at acqueduct. A field of seven set to go to post the morning line. Favorite favourite is number three time limit. What are your thoughts going into this race? Steve You know Bob Looking at this one first few horses I looked at plenty plenty of speed in the race and most drawn towards the inside. It looked like several who were very impressive. Last time You know the number three time limit. limiter you mentioned is a speedster who is grade three stakes placed which is rare in the New York State Bread Company which will be dropping back in what state breads here. Sousse grade greatest takes place on the grass over a dumb aunt when they try to last time. Now she comes back You know she's going to be mixing it up early as well here. I thought that that that set the the race dynamic pretty well for my top pick. I'M GONNA go with the number four my Sassy Sarah and she'll be trying Dirt for the first time but you I should have some nice bottom from a route. Try on the grass and the gray tomb Israel over at Belmont last time out where she was right there in the middle of midstretch entire little bit from a wide spotlight but she should have plenty of bottom. She's shown that she can sprint. She has a suitable dirt pedigree. I'm GONNA give her shadow upset this field and looks she. She was not very far behind crystal. Who finished second in the Miss Grillo last time out and you liked crystal enough to probably key her in the Breeders Cup? Filly Philly the Breeders Cup Juvenile Filly Turf so obviously a little bit different there. That's long on the turf. This is new. York Brett's short on the dirt wasn't her breeding with my Sassy. Sarah tells you that you'd think she'll handle the main track because she's never raised on it. She's always worked on the main track but shall never were never really never works sir. Horses real fast. So it's hard to gauge from those morning drills. What you're going to get from my Sassy? Sarah I like the street. Cry Line on the on the damn side I I think that will help her. Take to the dirt quite well. Street cry was Turned out to be a really nice one one stake here at aquit In the fall solitude turn steak on the dirt and like I said this Philly has already shown that she can sprint two of our best races. Were sprinting albeit on the grass. I think she takes to the to the new surface. Just fine and all the speed up front I think sets things up to come and make a run. I'm wondering what kind of trip number to who play tone is going to get in this spot. She got her maiden win. Last time out in wire-to-wire fashion but she showed in her previous two tries that she doesn't need the lead need to still run pretty well and I don't know if she's going to be able to make the lead with time limit just or outside and even number one all over. The map showed a lot of speed last time out. So she's Kinda surrounded by it I think if she doesn't get into some sort of a pay stool she may have some finish as well and she seems like she's getting better each and every every start so we're both taking a little bit of a shot here. Steve going with number four. My Sassy Sarah. I like number to play tone and we probably both put number three time limit into onto a five length. Victory in the key sense on Saturday but death. Those are the three favorites on the line. Anyone the other. Where's that we didn't mention? Stand out as a possibility to you. The number six silver verse had a shot. She's got Nice Tactical Foot. And you know we talk about there being speed to the inside side and you know sometimes it comes down to being a writers raise to like you mentioned that you like the number to play tone. I mean he's got many Franken. On 'em Rod Ortiz is on the one all over the map who has speed of one three time limit. You know if one of those guys decides. Hey you know what I'm going to try and take leave the other ones take back. You never know what happens but I think the single verse could be sitting pretty good spot to try and get in the mix for share at a decent price okay. So we've mentioned more than half the field right now in the keys sense and both of us taking a little bit of a stab against the morning line favorite number three time limit that race set to go at approximately three twenty eastern time little later on the on the day and Saturday at about five. Thirty six eastern time. They've got a big race down at Churchill downs. It's the grade three river city handicap APP for three year olds and up going island eighth on the turf you heard in the intro. The defending champ. Mr Missed understood is back to crap. Try to capture. After the river city's once again field of tend to go to post Mr Misunderstood five to two on the morning line. How do you see the race? I like these Midwest Midwest turf races stakes races you get horses from all over the place well-traveled ones who take two different courses. They take that course with them. They run well often often trying to look for some type of a different type of advantage in here. Maybe knowing that all these horses on their best could be tight race. The number eight get Western seems to be the the main speed of the of the matchup. He's two four keeneland He'll probably be able to get in front of these but he got in front of him last time cheaper set keeneland and pretty much on. Why and wasn't able to keep going at eight and a half furlongs? He's going to try and nine on Saturday. I'm going to try and beat them with the nine. Admission Office. Who last time faced a lot better in the shadow turf mile really had no shot? He was fourteen horsfield he was last. Most of the way still only ended up getting beaten three lengths by a couple of good ones boys hero. DIAMONDS UP I think he'll like this bunch bunch a little bit better in his late running style should appreciate the nine furlong. So I'M GONNA go with the nine admission office. Yes certainly seems like a little bit of a soft spot in the great eight one. He saw last time out. It's also his second. Start off a layoff or trying to Brian Lynch who excels with these types. I agree with you. He didn't have much of a chance going from the fourteen hole at flat mile last time out and even though he finished eleventh in that field of fourteen he was only beaten three lengths. He made up almost ten links from start to finish that. Just kind of flattened out down the stretch but think he just had to work so hard to get into it that he didn't have his best chance. I'm not not really concerned about the extra distance. He's one at these longer distances. mylan eighth even further in the past and I think if he moves forward second start off have to lay off. Admission Office is going to be tough. I agree with you. There's not a lot of patient here. That's the one drawback to somebody like admission office. Who looks like he's he's just going to somehow have to work out the same type of trip that about six others in here WanNa work out although it seems like his Jackie Jose Ortiz more often than not finds the right trip for these runners? Couple of horses down to the inside that I thought were at least interesting number two. It's a mouse for Connor. Murphy and and Channing Hill to starts back was only four and a half back in the grade. One woodbine Mile Behind L.. TORMENTA got stormy and La. Cullen I would think that that kind kind of race would make him one of the ones in here. He came back with a win against a higher class allowance types at Keeneland in his most recent start one of the horses he beat was number. One Column Road Actually Favored in that allowance race and that didn't have the cleanest of trips so along with admission office. I think numbers one and two have a chance there and it sounds like we both think that the morning line favorite and defending champ. Mr Misunderstood is vulnerable. I'm going to take a shot. I Miss Mr Misunderstood stood in here. he always takes a lot of money you know he he does love Churchill so maybe the return to this turf course helps move them up a bit but you know he's a fan favourite and Five to two in the morning like go off somewhere around there I think The number to a mouse is another one as well who you can toss in there I I liked his effort last time at Keeneland got no pace in front of him wasn't too far off the early for actions but still was able to make a nice move to mow them down and I think he may have a better one in him on Saturday. Okay we've got one St north of the border on Saturday to look at a little earlier in the afternoon. Approximately two five eastern time is the WE SOUTH OCEAN STAKES UP AT woodbine. One hundred thousand dollar purse. These two year old fillies Ontario going a mile in sixteenth on their main track field of six going to post and probably one of the shorter prices on the weekend is number two hour let. This is one of the favorites. I'm probably not going to try and take too big a hand at at at trying to beat you know. He's he's pretty fast. He's a excuse me she she's a stakes winning sprinter twice in in restricted company up north of the border. She doesn't break the quickest. She's got a nice turn of foot early and she's got the two turns to deal with for the first time and and that could be an issue but you know taking a look at the rest of the field that she's able to clear which from the post I think she will think they're going to have a tough time trying to run on her down. I'm GONNA take a little bit of a stab in here with number three. She's a dream. WHO finished behind outlet back on September twenty first going six six furlongs outlet? That day was sent off at even money. But she's a dream was only two to one so obviously. There were several people that thought she had a chance in there. She was beaten six six lengths that day but since then she's actually tried a mile and a sixteenth and showed more speed than normally she does. I don't think that's really a game. I think she wants more of a stalking trip. Rip and switching back to Emma Jayne Wilson. Maybe she will get that on Saturday outlet taking nothing against her. She looks like the speed of the race. She looks like the fastest philly going in. But she's Bhai Frac Daddy Adam an American chance mayor it seems like maybe more spread breeding been route breeding to me and I find it a little bit interesting that Patrick husbands bins. WHO's ridden her to victory? Each of her last three starts is off and on number four. November fog. Who on paper doesn't look nearly as talented as outlet? So don't know what's happened behind the scenes there if this was a premeditated deal or if something has happened between Wesley Ward and Patrick husbands for them to separate separate here but a couple reasons I. I'm not gonNA take the short price on outlet. I think number three. She's a dream has a little bit of shot in here and probably will be a square price because because outlet four to five on the morning line. She looks like she's going to be closer to about two to five or one to two when all is said and done we're GonNa take our first break. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview view presented by naira bets on the Horse Racing Radio Network. Not Our best. Is Your online home force racing and betting with narrow. You can play hundreds of tracks from anywhere at anytime using your computer or mobile device players. Earn points on bets and building. A bankroll exclusive promotions. Like this one sign up today using Promo Code H. R. N.. Two Hundred Feachem hundred dollars within your first two weeks of membership and our dollars right into your account. That's Promo Code H. R. N.. Two hundred best is available across the United States. 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This is the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets. Thousand Words joins the party three wide with two lengths just to make up their followed by Russia in Fourth Friars Road on the outside of Arab turning for Home Thunder Code holds the lead raw enjoyed by thousand words. Thousand Words about takes aim at thunder coat with a furlong left to go these two square off thunder road. Top thousand words right up alongside alongside their nose at knows that sixteenth ago Thunder Co trying to fight off thousand words thousand words down and thousand words just shown the web by lobby. The Pratt beats the undercoat. Then it was divine armor in third Rod and Friars Road Frank near Maadi on the call live from Santa Anita or tapes from San Heat. I should say the meeting. Victory of thousand words will be favored in the Bob Upgrade Three. Bob Hope at del Mar on Saturday. Bobby Newman along with Steve Rabovsky. Welcome back to the weakened stakes preview presented by NAIRA BETS folks. 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The preakness Sir Winston in the Belmont and winning this year's award that wraps up tonight's addition of the Blood Horse News. Update there's one website. That's the industry's go. Oh to fight for racing breeding sales news. That's blood horse. Dot Com from breaking news to sire list results in videos leading earner. Listen so much more you'll find it all all at blood horse dot com welcome back mountain state sponsored by naira bets that several racists still to look at Bobby Newman along Steve Hausky. Let's jump right back win with three more stakes on the Saturday dock. And we'RE GONNA head to Maryland now and the Laurel Park. They've got a hair on Saturday starting with their sixth race on the card. This is the James F Lewis the third stakes one hundred thousand dollar purse for two year. Olds sprinting. Six prolongs approximate approximate post. Time is to fifty one Easter time field of eight set to go to post. And this is one of those racist Steve where there are just so many different ways you can go and I'm not even sure who's going to end up being favored. Yeah this is an open race. I mean there are a handful in here who have run. Well they were in relatively close Beyer speed figures and Trips make a difference and and you know I saw several who have speed. who figured it'd be near the lead one who's interested me? All all year was a number five tuggle watching him break his maiden in New York I out taking a ton of money ended up going off at six to five one five for a long race. wire-to-wire take look at his pedigree and Eddie will both at Belmont that day saying we'd rather bet this horse. In a mile and three eighths race on the grass rather than five eighths on the on the main track they were trying to get him on the grass. You know the rain did move it to the main track But he showed a significant amount of speed and then right after trying trying to Saratoga special. They moved them to different. Stretch to mount and things didn't work out so well even though he was bred to To take to the footing Yeah he's been working slowly in the interim here but the Jeremiah engelhardt Bart does a great job moving running back from turf the dirt and they do well route to sprint as well. I think the slow drills. Maybe they help dull this horses early foot a little bit able to sit off the pace and and make a run. I'M GONNA go with the five tuggle here to take this one. There are a couple in this race. Who are coming off a maiden wins in their debut effort and they look very similar on paper number six burnings on fire number eight Sir back in black they both both our maiden at Laurel Park going five and a half furlongs on the main track both in for a forty thousand dollar claiming tag Bernie's on fire was actually entered to run on the turf but who was moved to the main tracker? The track was fast that final time for both of them right around the same one three in three one zero three and four. I like the outside post though. For number eight sir. Back can black trainer Richard Vega. Well he doesn't have a lot of starters at the meat but what he started with. They have been phenomenal. Twenty seven starters. Nine wins three seconds. Two thirds overall fourteen percent clip here in two thousand nineteen so I think number eight Sir back in black. It's going to have a little chance at uh a better than average price. Five to one on the morning line morning I'm flying. Favorite is tug at three two one. I'm not sure he's actually going to go off favourite in this spot but whoever were you like in there. I don't think you're GONNA have to take too short of a price in the James F. Lewis Yeah there are several in here. Who are going to take some tote supporting and you're right you know? Your guess is good as anybody's as as to who is going to be. The you know the one representing favouritism when they actually spring latch. I thought the number one new stone was another one. WHO's a little bit interesting one? I out another one of those maiden races where You know he fought off early pace challenges. This was able to kick away earned a number similar to what the better ones in here had run. I last time He. He took a stake in Press Kyle downes on synthetic footing and where he was able to settle. Now he moves back to the inside he may need to be used harder a little early. Maybe that has something to do with getting amused up in the pace but I thought he was interesting interesting in this spot to and by the way this is the fourth different track that he'll run at in four starts parks colonial press kyle and now Laurel and the only loss on on his docket was to four wheel drive. He wasn't very close to four wheel drive that day but he was able to make the lead over four wheel drive. which after watching the Breeders Cup juvenile turf sprint? That's something in itself outgunning four-wheel-drive in the early going okay. So Steve going with number five tuggle. I'm going to take a look at number eight Sir back and black that is the James S. Lewis the third race six on the Saturday card at Laurel their seventh race on Saturday at Laurel is the one hundred thousand dollar warriors reward smart Halo steaks and this is for two year old fillies going six furlongs approximate post time three twenty eastern time and the morning line favorite has number six summer fortune. Listen I'M GONNA go with Jeremiah. engelhardt sweet both of these two year olds stakes down at a laurel on Saturday. I think the number six summer fortune not not not easy to win six and a half first time out and the way she did it at Belmont she was able to kick away to a clear lead early showing a high. Hi early kick after working well up at Saratoga for that debut. We haven't seen her since but I would assume she's doing quite well if he's GonNa bring her back Contri- steak spot here. I think that you may be quicker than all these get to lead and not be able to get rundown so I'll go with the six. I'm a fortune question any concern at all with how slow they came home in that maiden when she went wire-to-wire that day and she may have done geared down. It says in hand to bath but went from eleven and four for six furlongs to nineteen flat for six and a half and seven and change for that. Final Final Sixteenth is pretty pedestrian. You know she wasn't really asked late. I mean I I I guess you could say a little bit gear down. I mean she was hand used. Even though it said enhanced she was shaking up a little bit. But I think that extra half furlong like I was saying you know that. That's really tough for these young horses to to get over six is it's an achievement. You know to win that especially on the front end. So she's coming back here to three quarters. I think she's going to be just just fine against this bunch okay. There are definitely other ways. You can go though if you if you're taking shot against the favorite summer fortune or maybe if you think thinks she gets caught up in a little bit of pace battle upfront and I going to take a look at that and maybe number two cofactor will get the right trip once again again. This is a daughter of the factor trained by Kelly Bring Joe Bravo is in for the ride. These men aboard each of her last two starts. Both of them were wins. She broke broker maiden by a neck. Battling the pace the entire way at Monmouth Park starts back. Came back against winners in allowance race at Keeneland innermost previous. The most recent start rather and wasn't right up on the pace was taken three or four lengths back and had a little bit of a stretch kicking got up in the final jumper. Talk to win by a head and that's the line. I think that I'm most excited about in the fact that she's shown that at least you can be versatile not saying that the other ones can't be we just haven't scene does far but cofactor as shown she can show speed. She can win from at least a little bit off the pace and I think that's that off the pace theory that she's going to have to use in this race at Laurel because aside from number six summer fortune there were several others in here that look like they wanna be at least close to the pace if if not online online so steve going with some fortune. I'm going to take a shot with number two cofactor. That is Smart Halo Stakes Ray. Seven on the Saturday card at Laurel road going go all the way across the country now to our other graded stakes on the Saturday docket. It's the grade three. Bob Hope stakes at del Mar on Saturday. One hundred thousand dollar purse for two year olds boy a lot of two year old stakes that. We're looking at on Saturday. Stephen and this one going seven furlongs. It's the eighth race on the Dell Marquardt at seven PM Eastern time and in a field of six then no shock. Here that trainer Bob Baffert is going to have a major saying the outcome. He sends out to of the six runners. Number three thousand words and the five high-velocity speed seems to be a key factor on a lot of the races that we've discussed so far today and and Bob Baffert's to maiden winners here You know while they may not appear to be so fast on paper from their first that wins they are in good pace numbers and I I think they play out as as to the quicker ones early in this field. Thousand words was very impressive. I have to take all that money flooding and Pratt comes back. His first I in stakes company. They paid a million dollars for. This horsey. Certainly didn't disappoint I out. We'll have a little bit of a tough time late kicking off the second place finisher but you know again. That was a six and a half furlong race. First time out. You know. It's not easy to be so so fit to go that far. I know he's trying to seven eighth year but I think he may be able to get in front of these early. The number six strong constitution is the one who I'm afraid of going from rail to outside draw after just missing by neck and his. I thought underwritten that restricted sunny slope stakes at Santa Anita. He looks like the seven furlong might be right up his alley but I think those are the two in here I think number three thousand words stands out over this field. I know his maiden win was only by a half length. It's just the way he did it. He grinded away. The top two were about six or seven clear of the third place. Finisher that day thousand words very professional in his debut us back down to six to five he. It was rumored to be a good thing and he looked like a good thing to me is looked as good. As any of Bob's two year old debut hours this year Flavian Pratt. Who seems seems to be aboard every good horse in southern California? These days is writing this one interesting. Ownership on thousand words owned in partnership by both spendthrift and Alaw family stables labels. which if I'm not mistaken the owners of Dennis's moment so going against Bob Baffert a couple of weeks ago in the Breeders Cup juvenile with with Dennis's moment and eight rings? But now all on the Bob Baffert train with thousand words and and I think a repeat of his maiden effort is good enough to beat at this field. I don't see any reason. He can't be better second time out and I just think the other ones are really going to have to improve if they're going to beat the effort. That thousand words showed in his maiden score last time at and was we heard coming off the break. You got to hear at the stretch call from track announcer. Frank Ramadi Kate. We're GONNA take our second break. This is the weekend. Ken Stakes Preview presented by Naira bets on the Horse Racing Radio Network Test. Your handicapping skills. At Nyerere's Akwa Challenge November sixteenth at aqueduct racetrack. An online through naira bats. This contest consists of a five hundred dollar buying with two hundred fifty dollars going to the contestants bankroll and the remaining two fifty included in the tournament prize pool in addition to that prize pool seats in the Twenty Twenty Belmont stakes challenge and the NHCD are up for grabs. Pre registration is required by Thursday November fourteenth registered today at NY IRA dot com slash challenge. 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Right there in third finally of a mile born evermore just in front Pinton coming back on deputies that goes right there at the freeway thriller between rivals forever outside Deputies Inside Bissett it is Paul. Ever Mole Pinson right there. Second Deputies Echo is third far back do rightly Lucas in shotgun cowboy. The photo stretch called the two thousand eighteen. Th Zia Park Championship won by forever. Mo- will be one of the contestants one thousand nine hundred Delta Mile at Delta downs. We're going to get to that race momentarily. Bobby Newman and Steve Dubrovsky back on the weekends. Stakes preview presented by Nyerere Bets Bets. Best base to play is over at night. REBECCA DOT COM use Promo Code H. R. N.. Two hundred to open a new account and about two hundred dollars in the first two weeks of opening your accountant to have that two hundred dollars deposit right back into it again. H. R. N.. Two hundred is the Promo code over at naira. That's DOT com. Take a look at the last three of the Saturday stakes for the weekend. And we're going to jump up the left coast little bit to Golden Gate Fields. I'm going to take a look at the Oakland stakes year whereafter year. This is an underrated stake in my is always very fast runners. Going the six furlongs purse is fifty thousand dollars. Field of seven here Stephen Even and looking at it at first glance to me it is a pure place play in this spot. Five of the seven runners to me look like they wanna be on or near the lead and if number one we soda. Geir doesn't get the trip. He wants then. I don't know what I'm looking at. He's won three in a row. He's not going to be a big price she's two to one on the morning line but he's one of only a couple in here who shows any ability to close and even though he's breaking from the rail which normally I wouldn't like for a sprinter they're just all going to go and he's GonNa come running. I'd be shocked if he's not putting in a big stretch bid in the Oakland. Absolutely bobby I looked at the exact same way. It doesn't take a minute to see that everybody here wants the front end at least all of the other contenders do and You know the number one together like you say breaks from the rail not not. So Oh Kean about it but he did it last time he was able to come from just about less to run them down. These may be a little bit better but the amount of speed in this race. I just can't see any of them being able to put the others away and holding off together. I think he is going to be pretty tough. Not much of a price. But he's going to be tough to hold off and by the way if you're not used to betting the racist Golden Gate you look at the PCP's and it shows with Soda Gear. Winning allowance races. Each of his last three is last two were basically basically stakes level allowance races. They were allowance thirty three thousand dollar purse no condition so basically a wide open allowance. It's a way you know. It's the same thing as running in a fifty thousand dollar stake except the person fifty thousand. It's thirty three thousand so I I'm not really sure that He's facing better today than he saw in his last two and he's actually a few the horses who finished behind him in those last two starts. We'll be in against him on Saturday. That race set to go around six forty eight eastern time race seven on the Golden Gate card. Both Steve and I agree that we soda. Oh to gear should trip out in that spot in and be a tough customer. We're going to head back to the east coast and a little bit of night racing out at Charlestown. It's the fifty thousand. My sister Pearl stakes. These are West Virginia Bred fillies and Mares they're going a mile and an eighth at Charlestown which I believe is three turns is there. We've got a field of eight set to go to post in the morning. Line favorite is number three BS. Wild Cork you know. Bobby I look this race upside down Back and forth every way that I could and to me it just came out as a true spread. I hope you can offer a little bit more insight than I can here but I thought the four logical ones and where were the ones who You know any one of them in any order come in the number. Three be was wild core. Who won the Mama? They'd stake last time a number four CR cases legacy three year old. Filly who's going back in with all the heroes eleven to thirteen in the exact church. Excuse me Charlestown though she. She hasn't gone this far yet. The number six in Montana another one. WHO's been sprinting? The to turn sprint over at at Charlestown was a contender. And the Spanish Moss. She she went to nine furlongs last time behind while Cork should finish third less than two legs behind. A you know to me you could throw a blanket over. My many of those four. I think are are eligible win this race that I wouldn't be surprised if somebody else did to. Just didn't have a good gauge on the race. And I'm going to have to spread in this won a resounding I have no idea by Steve Kerr Belsky in the my sister Pearl stakes. And I'm not really far off from that specifically on price play. I would take number eight Spanish. Moss may be reversed. It's the decision with number. Three's wild court. They ran against each other at this distance last time out on October twelve charlestown Spanish Moss was sent off three read. One that debut B.'s. Wildcard was eight to one but it was these wild cork who was able to get the win and she actually beat Spanish Moss by a lengthened. THREE-QUARTERS AH after noon. You're going to get a better price on Spanish moss tomorrow. You're going to get a worse price. MB's wild court and to be truthful. That's by far the best raise as BS. Wild corker has run in a while. So I don't know if for those of you who are buy into the bounce fact or regress fact or what however you WanNa put it. She certainly has every right to go backward a little bit off what seems like the best ratios run in a long long time and only because of that I ended up with number eight Spanish. Moscow I think is a little bit more consistent. She hasn't won this year. That worries me a little bit. But she's been first or second. Fourteen had twenty six career starts. You just hasn't gotten to the winner's circle lately and maybe get the job done at a little bit of a better price. So total spreads for Steve. I'M GONNA take number eight. The Spanish Moss that is the my sister Pearl stakes at Charlestown proximate pose time. Ten Zero Two PM on Saturday night going to head down south now we mentioned the Delta Mile earlier is forever Mo who won last year Zia Championship resurfaces in the Delta Mile this race one hundred thousand dollar purse I the Delta Mile Stakes flat mile on their main track. They don't have of course there. At least not as far as I know and three year olds and up here this is another one where it's a flat at mile. They're they're actually starting way down at the end of the shoots. They have a long run to the turn as opposed to conventional mile. Track where They're starting right there near the finish line and a big field of ten here going to post. And this is another pretty wide open race. Steve Number Ten forevermore is the tepid morning line favorite at three two one going for new connections though this time around. Yeah you know L. A.. I thought there were several ways to go in here. Also these bullring type courses in stakes races that they run their that bring horses assist from different places. And it's not something I'm handicapped too often. So it's a little bit of a shock to me when I'm watching. These in watching replays is an all in the horse. Who really impressed me was the number six Trevelyan whose improving at the right time? won by four lengths. Last last time I thought over the track. If you look at the paper it shows you that you know it was a little bit of a closer track. That day was just a couple of weeks off the pace tracking and was able able to kick away from all the horses after trying the Super Derby a at Louisiana downs and losing to rotation by double digit lengthen. His race prior to that. I think he fits well in this spot again. If he keeps moving forward I think ninety two on the more you can get that will be a heck of a bargain. I'M GONNA go with the six trillion. I agree he has a big shot and I took the same kind of stance I went with number seven late night mischief for Arthur. Pike and Tim Thornton. This is one who I just think is is a delta downs specialist. He's runs six times. They're three wins and a second place finish to his credit he beat upper level allowance types at Delta going seven furlongs last time out seem normally. You'd say well difference between seven furlongs and mile is one is one turn one is to turn but they're both to turns at Delta down so I don't think there's a huge difference there between a seven furlong horse and a mile horse when it comes to Delta downs. He may be facing a little bit tougher on Saturday than what he seen previously. As you mentioned I think it's a good spot for a for both the six seven late night mischief and getting back to the morning line favorite forevermore Mo.. We really haven't spoken about him. He'll be his first. Start for new BARN JOSE CA Mayo. WHO's having a great two thousand nineteen in his own right? Winning at twenty two percent clip taking over this son of Uncle Mo for the first time for most of the last year or so In fact for about the last year and a half forever was in the Steve Asmussen Barn so going going from what nationally a huge name trainer wise to what is not a big name trainer wise nationally but trainer is having a good year. What do you do with a horse like forever to me? It's tough to move a horse up off of the Steve Asmussen Barnum and this. I know he's been a little spotty and his running this year but he really has tailed off compared to where his to his two thousand eighteen season in two thousand nine hundred season began. I respect the born in the work that they've done this year that they're going to take the blinkers off which the experiment didn't didn't prove to to do too. Too much for him in the Albuquerque downs handicap I'M GONNA have to take a stand against him especially if he goes anywhere. We're nearly three to one on the line price. They're going to have to prove it to me okay. So Steve going with number six trillion nine to two on the line. I like number seven late night. Mischief seven two on the line. It's race eight on Saturday night at Delta downs. The Delta Mile and approximate post time is nine ten eastern time that PM. We're going to take our final break. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets on the Horse Racing Radio Network. Not Our best is. Is Your online home for horse racing and betting with our bets you can play hundreds of tracks from anywhere anytime using your computer or mobile device players. Earn points on bets and building. A bankroll exclusive goose. Broken like this one today using Promo Code H. R. N.. 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Racing Radio Dot Net and follow us on twitter at hr are in and like our page on facebook search apple podcasts for HR in download our latest shows hr in home to racing's biggest events in our home on the the web is at horse racing radio dot net below. This is Steve cauthen thoroughbred jockey winter the triple Crown Nineteen seventy-eight aboard affirmed armed and you're listening to the horse racing radio network. This is the weekend stakes freeview presented by naira beds of forty five point two two half for maximum security. WHO's tested all the way? So far the leader at the top of the stretch just diamond king run to them and second prince. Lucky lucky goes up with the outside through. Timber can't stick with them. They're coming to the final long maximum security under. Try from Sayas holding onto this Lebron even by two and a half lengths close to home and diamond king. Prince lucky up the rail tale of silence true timber. But it's maximum security to to score ruler by to Caleb silence was second true tipper was third Prince Lucky was fourth at a very sharp final time of one twenty point seven six Larry Combs on the call of the bold ruler. One maximum security very impressive. I've been victory that afternoon. Get to see him coming up in a few weeks he is supposed to make his next start at acqueduct December seventh in the Cigar Mile and Steve. I don't know about you but maximum security. His has taken way too much of my money already and that I'm only saying that because I have tried to beat this horse several times it has not worked out very well for me. I was a non believer in the Florida Derby. I actually thought there was a chance he he could beat last time out in the bold ruler I thought Prince lucky had a chance to beat them. I've obviously was horrendously wrong. In both in both both both circumstances maximum security. What what what a story? He's been from horse. Who was available for sixteen thousand dollars as a maiden and obviously crossing the wire I in the Kentucky Derby and maybe well on his way to being champion three year old daughter? What an eye source? And I'm glad we get to see him again this year. Yeah you know what bobby still don't believe in him. I I think the bold ruler. Despite what his trainer Jason Service had to say I think he wrote a a an inside co gold rail was speed favouring track. You know he ran. Well no doubt about it. But he's still gonNA need to prove to me that he is the quality of being a champion three-year-old which vary if he wouldn't say the cigar very well might be voted champion three year old so You know I could be wrong again but you can be sure that I'm going to try and beat them. Yeah he's he's. He's cost me a lot of money. Only by him winning not not by me betting on him and him losing I my my. I don't know if this is not a word. My non believer nece is waning on maximum. uh-huh security trying all year to get this Horse Peten. It's just not working out well for me. So what a nice source nonetheless and. I'm glad I'm glad we get to see him. At the big a in the cigar mile speaking of the big he will be back tomorrow on the equine form eight to ten. Am Eastern time serious is to nineteen Xm to a one percent by red brand fence and exciting guests for the big eight tomorrow morning trainer. Brad Cox talks about Defending River City Champ. Mr Misunderstood food as well as Breeders Cup juvenile fillies winner British idiom vice president of racing at Gulfstream Park. Mike Lake how beyond to talk about settling into his new job Tom Bell House. It's the chief operating officer of West Point. Thoroughbreds will be on the show and the industry star the week presented by Stuart. Morris is aquidneck race track announcer. Jon embree now and I can tell you. There is nobody more deserving than him easily. One of the most underrated race callers of my lifetime and an absolute pleasure ledger to get him. Listen to him. Call the racist taking nothing away from Larry. Komo's taking nothing away from Tom. Durkin Larry's a very good friend of mine. I love listening to John and Brielle and he's he makes races easy on the ears. Absolutely he's a great classic Guy Who's announcer's booth office. He's just a few doors down from our student here at aquit John and he's a little bit older than I am but He and I grew up in the same town and went to the same high school so John and reality reality is a classy guy. And he's a legend in Long Island. I'll tell you that much. And he's he's he's really enjoyable to listen doing. Nobody more deserving as far as the industry star the week. That's all tomorrow morning. Eight to ten. Am On equine forum presented by Red Brand fenced and our good friend. Anthony Stabile we back off his vacation. Haitian in Tahiti on the nude beaches back in studio to pick were again bobby. The picture got actually flagged by eight people who monitor the Internet and they decided that that wouldn't be good for anybody to be able to see that. So it's been blocked off and I you know. Now we're on some sort of a report. I think national security by whoever whoever whoever watches over those dangerous things that people putting pictures up Things like that okay. Well let's get back to the matters at hand we've got a couple of Sunday stakes to talk about starting in New York at acqueduct one hundred thousand dollar notebook stakes. These are two year old. New York breads going six furlongs on the main track and field of seven set to go to post in the morning line. Favorite on the outside is number seven dream bigger. Yeah he looks to be the fastest one and here. We drew outside I don't know if anybody is going to be able to to give them much of a tussle to get the lead but taming in itself. It's he's got a little bit of a task ahead of him. He debuted as a good thing Up at Saratoga. When he was beaten by the law who was super impressive that day went onto win the champagne over at Belmont of the flat? Mile a terrific fashion. Unfortunately they skip the Breeders Cup of with them so we didn't get to see him but looks like he may be coming back to the Revson here on the the cigar undercard on December seventh but anyway Harris Bay ends up breaking his maiden in the stakes race up finger lakes last time super impressive to when they put the blinkers on him. Wins by ten plus legs. Big Beyer speed figure you know. He's clearly the one they're gonNA have to beat here but one of the the horsedrawn to his immediate inside Harris Bay beat him. Second time out. tried the sleepy. It'd be Hallo at a mile over a Belmont subsequently ran pretty well sat apopka tripped. It wasn't able to get to the top two but still still ran okay. I think he's he's GonNa appreciate the cutback in distance and maybe a little bit more bottom to run after dream bigger this time so I'm going to give him a shot at what figures to be a decent price to upset the apple cart and try and run down dream bigger. And if for some reason dream bigger gets caught up in some sort of unexpected pay stool upfront. All the better for somebody like Harris Bay that brings into play somebody like number four Moon Naci who for Jeremiah. engelhardt and Manny Franko. This horse I got a lot of action at the windows. First Time out in a full field was bet down to four to one. I think he was maybe the second choice in the way drink and he drew off by ten. Very impressively Sibley came back in New York bread steak last time out wasn't able to get lead press the pace and got a little bit tired late. I think the the thing that would worry me boast about Moon Moon Naci is that Jose Ortiz. Who wrote him in both of his career starts ops off and sticks with the morning line favorite number seven dream bigger? Certainly Liane paper doesn't look like the wrong decision and obviously not taking anything away from Manny Franco. WHO's I've said a few times? I think is a very underrated writer. But whenever you you have a big name rider have his choice. Choose one or the other. I tend to go the way they're going so I think dream bigger is going to be tough to beat in this spot but I don't really want four five eight to five on the morning line and if he was around that I think it's a fair price and I believe both number six Harris Bay and the four moon. Naci would have the best chance at a little bit of that upset. Going to go back to the west coast final stake race of the weekend by the way the racist act set to go three fifty eastern time later in the day on Sunday at six thirty eastern time from del Mar is the hundred thousand dollar Betty grable stakes these are cowbridge phillies and mirrors going seven seven furlongs on the main track and this is another race where it's hard to pinpoint who is actually going to be the favorite the morning line favorite is number five Moe C. cal but that doesn't necessarily mean she's going to go off the favorite. I'm not sure that she's the one to beat in this spot. She certainly one of the ones. But how do you see the race playing. Hang out at Delmar you know. I think Bobby I think she's going to take a lot of the toad support coming into that Breeders Cup distaff where she wasn't competitive late. But you see the big the big names blueprint midnight pursue and I think that the public will will jump on that and the big number that she ran prior to that in in the gate to wire score at Santa Anita. Earning in ninety-one Beyer speed figure. Looks pretty good in this spot. You know this is another one of these races where I think three or four or five you know have a shot. I think most see cal. Maybe the most likely winner but You know I'd also give a shout to love a honey badger who may be the speed of the field. Get to the front and they may have to come and run her down and and Shannon and mowing on. The fence was another one who I I thought looked like she had a little bit of a shot to get in the mix here. She doesn't win very often Adele more but she said the board a handful of times and I think she can get in the mix. My official pick is going to be mostly cow but I think it goes several ways in here. Yeah I ended up with number one show in Mo.. She's been in the money. Six six of nine tries at Delmar but only one win. I like the fact that she's been running against open competition the last six or seven races this year. Now she's going back against cal breads last two times that she ran against cal. Breads happened to be the last two times that she's one racist so I think it's going to be a better spot for her. I think she'll get a little bit of speed run out. I have an interesting theory. I'm interested in what you think of this. I will never bet a horse coming out of the Breeders Cup in their necks. Start if they start again that year meaning so it's only a two month period and you don't see a whole lot of doing this. You know they usually take the rest of the year off for you. Know they're coming back and Florida and New York or or southern California but the reasoning is one. I never believed that. They're going to be any fitter. They are going into the Breeders Cup since that seems to be what everyone points for. That's the race. We want to get them at their very best so the race after the Breeders Cup. I can't imagine them being in better condition than they were in the Breeders Cup and secondly they're almost always bet down because they've coming they're coming out of the Breeders Cup and everyone sees that great one and they see the the big names like midnight Blue Prize or whoever it is so not only you're gonNa have to bet somebody. They may not be anymore cranked up than they were last time. But they're going to most likely be shorter price than they were last time. It doesn't mean that I'm necessarily going to bet against somebody like mostly cal. But that's I wouldn't be betting on most cal only for that reason. Now she wins. That's fine it's not gonNA kill me if she wins and she pays six dollars and I you know oh I bet a little against her or I pass the race but what do you think about that that you know. It's worked for me in the past. What do you think about that kind of reasoning looking at At those post Breeders Cup. Same Year races. Well I think both of the reasons you mentioned very valid and and make a lot of sense common sense that there's he's GonNa be very little value when when you know. The two dollar better sees the British Cup this in the past performances or any other Breeders Cup race and so while they were facing the best. Then this has got to be a class dropped just off the bat thinking but in past years that was absolutely the case in recent ears racist here like the Cigar Mile. They've now given them more space. So there's been four weeks or five weeks between the Breeders Cup and in a race like that whereas whereas in the past if you tried for the Clark or if you tried to run in the in the cigar it was three weeks later after being cranked for for your your top effort and the Breeders Cup some of the horses weren't able to come back and bounce back as quickly and were defeated by you. Know maybe lesser caliber horses who were offering more value and may have changed a little bit over the last few years but in general I think you theory makes a Lotta sounds. I hope it makes sense. I'm sticking to it no matter what. So that's my. That's my main reason for trying to go against most see cal I think. She's obviously on paper either. The one to beat or one of the ones to be but I just I don't WanNa take a short price on a filly who I know was they were more. They had to be more concerned with the race two weeks ago than they were with this. I I mean I be very interesting to find somebody who says we're using. The Breeders Cup distaff offers a prep for the Betty grable. Del Mar two weeks later so I don't think they would come out in public and say that even if they were okay. It's time time now for the naira bets. Best Bat visit is IRA beds best. BET THE BEST BET steve. Let's send it over to you. Who Do you like best over the weekend I am going to go down to the buy the Delta downs and I'm GonNa go with the adult mile the number six trillion naira bets best bet this week for Villian a number six nine to two on the morning line Delta downs going in the evenings are GonNa have to stay up a little later but well worth it? If trevelyan gets the job done in the Delta Mile I am going to go a little chalker and a little further west and that is the great three. Bob Hope on Saturday at Del Mar their eighth race on the card. I think that the BOB baffert trainee thousand words is just head and shoulders better than the field. Seven to five on the morning line. I think if you could get close to seven to five you should run run to the window. I think this is a star in the making and just the infancy of his career. So Trevelyan for Steve in the Delta Mile thousand words for me in the grade raid three Bob. 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TimeformUS Pacecast - Episode 10 - April 2, 2019

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TimeformUS Pacecast - Episode 10 - April 2, 2019

"Welcome to the April second edition of time from US pays test. I'm David era gonna this week on the power cast. We're going to discuss the Florida derby, which was won by maximum security. It's a race that I think generated more questions than it answered as we're looking for some clarity on the three year old picture heading into the Kentucky Derby, we'll also discuss. The other stakes action Gulfstream arc from Saturday. The reopening of Santo neither which featured a flurry of stakes action and a fund night of racing. It may Dan that featured the Dubai World Cup as well. As some interesting performances from the American horses. So to discuss all of that. Because there's a lot to get through today. Welcome in my co-host credible Cousy Craig how you doing. Doing very well pretty excited to talk about the these races this weekend. Look forward to hearing your thoughts. Yeah. Goal stream park feature the Florida derby, which was run on Saturday. That was the the major race to discuss on the Kentucky, Derby trail was the only prep that was run in the United States last weekend. We also have prep race. You can call it that that was run on do by World Cup night. But national security was the winner of the Florida derby bit of and upset he was making his fourth career start and he stayed undefeated. This is the forest that obviously as rags to riches story started in a claiming race moved up to a couple of star races in handled the step up to grade one stakes company there were a lot of no shows in this race. But I think the pace had a lot to do with the fact that some horses didn't put forth their efforts. Yeah. It was pretty baffling race to me. You know, we project it on time form US as a race predicted to have a fast pace, and I even discussed it on out of the gate. I didn't think that was a lock given that we only had two horses. Is really listen to speed horses and one of them was hidden scroll. Who I'm sure we'll talk about quite a bit here. But once in scroll through the rail, I figured there were limited and the rating plan would go out the window and that these would hook up early. But obviously that didn't happen hidden scroll was wrangled back off the lead and this horse, which just allowed the coast. I mean, he clearly, you know, showed showed he can win at a longer distance when given an easy lead. But you know, it was a clearly it was a slow pace. So I'm not really sure we can take a whole out of this race to be honest. Yeah. I think the race the way played out was really dictated right from the start when they decided to rate scroll. It seemed like that was the plan coming out of the gate. I don't know that was instructions from Bill Monto heavier Castellano, or if you just kinda played the break and saw that Lewis is sending maximum security to the lead, but they had no intentions of going to the front with hidden scroll. And what we learned about him is that he's just not, of course that can win rating. I don't know how. How much we can really take away from this race other than that. He didn't put forth the kind of ever that. We saw him in his first start certainly and not even the kind of race that we saw from the found if you re actually did run very, well, he just really had no answer. Once they got to the to the quarter pole and he never looked comfortable rating behind tauruses. They had tried it. And if you work outs leading up to this race, and it just didn't work out on race day. But that allowed maximum security the set that slow pace all the fractions were color coded blue in the time progress performances test reform Ince's unsurprisingly, and I want to give credit to this horse. A lot of people are knocking next security, and the fact that the race was just kind of handed to him. But this ran a sub twenty four fourth quarter, really sprinted home the last three eighths, and I think under thirty six seconds. He's a horse that has real ability. This this is a race that really accentuated springs. And I don't know if we can really take away that he can repeat this performance in the Kentucky Derby, given vastly different pace scenario. But. This is a horse that that is pretty talented. I don't wanna shortchange him. No. He definitely isn't. I mean, he's one of those horses that I I'm always really leery about because you just don't know what you have. I mean all of his races, so far even before the Ford there be we're kinda coated with a blue piece he was winning easily, and it's hard to not courses. Just keep winning. Yeah. You know, figures weren't great. But when horses are winning easy. And I know I'm not one of these guys always say, well, they could have run faster because a lot of times that's a Mirage. But sometimes it isn't. So, you know, with a horse came you just don't really know what we have. And I think we're going to, you know, have the that right up until the derby. I agree with you through some fast fractions, and they're the way he opened up between the three quarter mile and the top of the lane on the turn with was huge. I mean, he put a big gap between him, and and even the closers like code of honor and bourbon war were having trouble keeping up and did. Just lose ground but lost significant ground, you know, lost three four lengths to around that turn. So he clearly has a quick turn of foot. You know, he did get chased home by seventy one the one maiden. So, you know, maybe that could could shed a little bit of light on this one. I jobs to our listeners for my dog barking. It's one of the unfortunate things a working from home. You never know when they're going to decide to do that. But anyway, if you didn't hear that Budi express he was one of the horses. We talked about his very fast maiden race where he was second. Do I think the horse's name was Shantz a lot? If I remember net right off the top of my head. And I actually consulted that Reese before the Ford therby that see if anyone had run back just to kind of get a feel if I thought the figure was solid or maybe a little if the when I look back nobody had run. But if anything I would say, he definitely confirmed it in this one race. Yeah. He did. That was a very fascinating race in Iran back to it kind of like maximum security. He was real. Helped by the pace situation, given a more taxing pace upfront. I would think horses like code of honor in bourbon or probably would defeated him 'cause they did have much more difficult trips under the circumstances. But I don't take anything away from Bodey express either. He all these things a horse that is capable of running some some moderately fast speed figures, I going to go onto the Kentucky Derby with him. I imagine as a maiden why not take shop Matt race IBM have less optimistic about his chances maximum security adapting to a different pace relation. But this that's what happens sometimes when you race features slow pace, or like this or able to put forth efforts in achieve results that they wouldn't under different circumstances as for code of honor in bourbon war, they were really up against it bourbon war, particularly because I rat Ortiz who was writing just on the top of his game throughout the day on Saturday at Gulfstream. He was just making all the right moves. He took his horse as far back as you could under given the pace he's horse. He really had no other option. That's just the way. He runs he's going to be coming from that far back, and he tried to move up on the far turn, but you just couldn't make up ground into that really fast fourth quarter to maximum security. Put it on the front end he closed for four result getting to code of honor at the end for third. I think both of these horses will do better out of this race. We'll see if they want a mile and a quarter if more favorable pace it up in the going to help them. But I think there that you up horses that you would want out of a Florida or be moving forward as far as to those to go. I would just put a line right through that race. Whether what they've done previously makes you wanna bet them in the derby. I think they're both going to run well, much better. As you thought as you. As you noted us a couple of things I do want to highlight as one we do have the dirt track coded in read as highly speed favoring on the day. And I was a little skeptical of that I because specially there weren't a whole lot of dirt races, which is hard to believe on a fourteen horse card. But I think there were only five maybe six turt- races tops. And but when I went went and looked back through. Charts? It was really really tough for anybody to make up ground. Now granted we had a couple heavy fate. We had a heavy favorite and the Todd Pletcher horse prince lucky who won one against a completely overmatched field. You know? So it wasn't like we had a lot of long shots going wire-to-wire. But just looking through the whole fields. I'm not so sure to detract wasn't speed favoring as we have it labeled. I wouldn't say it was a rail bias, it was just really tough to make up any kind of ground and the other thing I wanted to note about maximum security is he is own. He has the same owners as game winner. So that could could provide some interesting dynamics come derby day. Yeah. As for the the way the track was plague I saw that day was color coded red in the race rating and the algorithm does effect me if I'm wrong about this. But the algorithm does account for whether horses that were winning were favorites or not or prices or whether the pace were slow in these races. If there was a reason behind why lot of speed or says one, and it's there's undenied. Lable that a lot of speed orces did win on Saturday at Gulfstream Park. I do think it was more circumstantial than everything anything else. We did have some lopsided performances with horses leading for most of the way. But it did feel like a lot of those horses were either best or they were allowed to win because of slow pace. So I'm on the fence as you were saying, even though it was such a large card. There wasn't really a whole lot of dirt racing. And most of it was around one turn. So I don't think we can draw concrete conclusions. But I was kind of Bill as to how that would shake out in the future. And yet, Gary Mary west have another contender on the derby trail. This is a horse that of course, they risked for sixteen thousand dollars in his first start Jason service really got away with one there. And he was saying after the race that as a traitor restarts. Lot of horses and made in claiming races. He kind of knows and claims a lot of courses added mating claiming races. He kind of knows what other trainers look for in. Why they would claim a horse, and he just thought this was wasn't really susceptible to being claimed because of his low profile pedigree. And the fact that he was riding. Apprentice rider that day. It wasn't even favored in that race, actually and it all worked out for him. And he was able to develop into into a great one winner. And now one of the top contenders for the Kentucky Derby, so just how it all shakes out. Sometimes not the way would expect moving onto the oaks prep that we saw Gulfstream Park on Saturday. Champagne anyone a minor longshot upset the two favorites net race. She got a great ride from Chris Landeros was much sharper with blinkers on for the first time and actually read a moderately fast figure for the horses that we've been seeing a sending to win these prices. This is one of the faster ones. She ran a good one nine, and I'll be honest that surprise me when it came up. I watched the race. I saw what the horses look like coming in. And I didn't really think it was going to be much, but the one oh nine use the same variant for all the dirt races throughout the card all the other reece's stack up pretty well. So that really wasn't any reason to to doubt the figure there lately three year olds and dimension. Champagne anyone added blinkers couple were the runner up. It was just, sir. Second start. So certainly not out of the question that these horses would improve, you know, three or four months or even more in a few cases, but solid effort, especially when you compare it to what we've been seeing on the the oaks trail, which is basically been just a whole bunch of slow speed figures and uninspiring races. Yes. She definitely is a major contender in that division moving forward. I think Dunbar road and point of honor finish second and fourth in this race are also horses that you'd wanna follow living forward. Obviously Dunbar road was making just her second start for. Trainer Chad Brown. So she's got a right to move forward. And I thought given the race that given the way that the race set up, and if the track was favoring speed point of honor just didn't really get the right setup. I know the pace wasn't exactly slow just kind of moderate and even keeled throughout but the really favored horses never up toward the front. End point of honor was just a little too far back throughout hot air. Castellano angled inside the top of the scratch, and it's that short stretch run going mile in sixteenth distance. And she had to kind of angle around cookie dough at the very end of the race. She's a horse that is going to improve going the mile on a day in the one concern with her is I'm not sure the hasn't up points to get into the Kentucky oaks, depending on whether that feels oversubscribed or not I think she'll me as twenty points coming out of this race on not sure how many it's going to require get into the race. But she's the one horse coming out of this race that idea bit interested in that the interested in betting at a price next time out and once one note on the paces, you know, as you mentioned, it certainly wasn't a slow piece. I would say it was just an average piece, but one thing over the years and. I'll be sure to go back and do some research, and maybe tweet this out in the weeks coming up is that when you get to the derby and oaks, there's no such thing as a moderate pace. It just doesn't happen in these races. They're almost always code in red by she get fast pieces, the horses go going farther than they ever have. So it's pretty easy to say. Yeah, we're SU who like point of honor who was behind what we consider just an average piece. We'll certainly get a better setup in a race like the oaks if she should get in yet. So good point wrapping up the dirt action for Gulfstream Park on Saturday was to Gulfstream Park mile, which was won by prince lucky. This was a grade two stakes race. It wasn't exactly agreed to field the aside from prince lucky that is because he might be very nice horse. It's just he was not facing field competitive rivals. They just couldn't keep up with him. Once he really was asked for his best in the land the way that the race on folded if you look at the pace figures, you would think this horse with a closer. But he actually set the pace the entire way because they just went so. Oh, slowly up on the front end a much what kind of conclusions you can really draw from this raise. But I do think the winner is a pretty nice horse. Yeah. He is. We talked about him after his last one when he came back with that. Nice win off a long layoff. He looked good. He looked very good on Saturday. Like, you said, this would just the paid workout. I mean, there was no competition whatsoever. And here he did what he had to do. It's impossible really to get a really good speed figure. When you go that slow, and I do wanna mention one point we do killed races with P for pace. I don't usually do it in cases like this one more uses. Same vary in as I did for the rest of the card because to me, it's pretty obvious. Why the figure slow all the fractions or coded and blue? So just not a real reason to do that. I generally do that one we use a different variant. So people can say, oh, they broke this rates out treated a little bit differently. I just let the blueprints factions feet speak for themselves in this case. I think that makes a lot of sense because he would just be elevating the state or for one horse to basically flat or prince lucky the other horses in the race. They didn't really earn those higher figures that you might have gotten if you broke the race out because of a reason to pace. So I think that makes a lot of sense and prince lucky is probably going to run a much faster speed figure wherever he shows up next time. But I think that's something that the gentleman that the handicappers can make and I do think this horse is pretty nice and he'll be a player moving forward as move onto a race. Like, the the grade one metropolitan handicap on Del Monte, I think that has to the goal for him right now. And I wouldn't doubt based on his prior speed thicker when I think he got a one twenty seven and his prior start if he's horse that could be that good. We just he's have to run that fast in this particular race. I'd be curious to see where he shows. Up. I mean, it may be the miles on the agenda. I mean, it's coming up. I guess maybe something in between. But he certainly showed that kind of talent last time. I completely agree sticking with the older horses for a second moving onto the turf, we saw focus group because five year old debut. I believe coming off a bit of a layoff. Chad brown. This horse was well backed at the windows after really ascending to towards the top of the division last year. He had won a listed stakes race at Saratoga. I think finish third in the Canadian International. This is I know that a lot of people have had high oaks four and delivered on that potential in this PanAmerican IRO cheese. I mentioned earlier that he was really zone on Saturday. This is one of his finest rides just saving ground every step of the way, slicing up the rail through a really tight hole in midstretch and was able to get the money with focus group a little lucky though, because the the runner Mel Mitch didn't have the Slough this trip to the wire though, I really was his own doing. Yeah, I'm going to guess that like myself, you may have had a little this was a little bit. Of a painful photo for you. You can correct me if I'm wrong. I know it was for me. And I honestly thought Mel matab at the wire, I've watched enough raises pretty rare that I get one wrong. But I was definitely wrong about this. When I thought Mel Mitch had it I was doing a little premature several breeding in here we discussed his last race thought of you know, we both liked how Weli at run on turf. And how well I think it closed into a slow pace that day, and he just looked really good Bafokeng groupie. It's probably a little bit better horse to be honest. You know, he came off a long layoff. He did get a good trip. But you know, if these two were to meet up again in a month, I would probably think focus group of get the better of them again just with a little more conditioning. But just a good solid race from the top two. Yeah. I didn't actually make any win beds on L. Mitch this day. I was one of those people that is a big fan of focus group. And I was looking forward to him returning in this race. So I was kind of scared to bet knowledge because I really had high hopes focus group in here. And I also. Was a little wary betting knowledge because having watched a lot of his private race than I did like him last time the time before rather to back and thought that he could have a real future as a turf marathoner. He's got that character flaw where he just always wants to lug in his races hobby or Castellano road in the prior time, and he really did learn that about him, and I bought how the air did everything that he possibly could to keep nominating forward while trying to prevent him from lugging in some people after the race for kind of wondering why wasn't riding him as vigorously as he could to the wire whipping right handed, and it's because this floors has this terrible tendency to lug in and just kind of move over on horses and take their Pat in the lane. And he was he did a good job of not or not getting disqualified. He did kind of fell a horse that probably wasn't caused a position the fourth place finisher. I thought he might have gotten the money. It was a really close vote what an unlucky head, Bob. But Melnick is a nice horse. If they can figure out how to get them to run straight. I don't know if they've tried blinkers him in the past or something that they can do. But he's. He's really to home from self as I think he's an eight year old now going these longer distances on the turf, he's got a better turn of foot. I ever saw from him on synthetic surfaces. Yeah. I imagine he'll be kept a turf once. I soon he's going to go back to Woodbine. Like, he usually does where you know, as you mentioned, even though he doesn't quite have the turn of foot. He had a really good record yet a good solid year and a half there where he was winning everything. But I agree with the he looks great on turf and some of the best races that would Byner on the turf. So, you know, maybe they will keep them there. Yeah. Chad Brown and clarify stables. They really have this turf division covered. I mean, they've got bricks and mortar can go the shorter distances. Now, they've got focused group. Why Magic's going to contest all of the the top grade one races in this division as long as he stays at in this kind of form he goes the marathon distances so they really have the the entire division covered at this point. So it'll be interesting to see how those races play out ahead of the season. As for the Phillies, not quite grade one or grade two quality, but valedictorian she keeps stepping up and keep showing up in these these lower level grade three races these listed stakes races. And she got the best of another big favor. Prompters ledge was I think even money in this race off some top form last year. This was her return, obviously, but valedictorian was pretty game to hold her off favorable scenario and all of that. But she just keeps showing up. Yes. She does. She's kind of become one of our favorites here on the pace cash. She runs a lot. And we keep we keep having to talk about her, which means she she's doing good things. And what I really like about her. I mean. Addition do consistency. Just keeps popping out that same one nineteen one one twenty speed figure every single time as her versatility. She's you know, she's proven. She can sit off slow pace. She came when the pieces hotter. She can stay right up there. She's won two out of three with the close second this year that the, you know since we've been doing the show, and she just as tough as they come. And I have a soft spot for worse like this. And I was really good to see her win. Yeah. I love horses to get claimed and turn into really top level. Graded stakes. Sources I believe that she was claimed for twenty five thousand dollars a couple of years ago. And by this point, she's well over half a million dollars. She's a horse that has speed. But what makes her so dangerous that she doesn't need the lead? She doesn't get rank under her riders. She's able to sit up another horse and still kick for home. And that really makes her adaptable to a variety of pay scenarios and she's dangerous in any of these races. I lo she's really going to be a great one type ones we see best out of the Chad Brown stable comeback and some others. But she's going to be dangerous in any race that she's in because of that, adaptability. The pace she. Yeah. No doubt about it. And that's what I was saying when the pieces fast, she has that turn of foot to keep up and still finish and slow pace she nicely. So I mean, that's really the kind of horse one on turf. Yeah. Totally agree. Moving onto the three roles. We saw a couple of notable performances one in a steak someone in a maiden race seismic wave on the cover bake going a mile nother fantastic ride from Iran Ortiz. He looked like he had nowhere to go behind the wall of horses coming to the coal and just slice through a hole between horses down towards the end side. Amiss worse really responded for him and got up for the victory. This is a Judd Mont home bread was just coming off a native win for Bill Martin appears to be headed in the right direction. Yeah. He does. I just want to mention we have this rates coded as dread as the pace was fast. And it was fast node, no doubt about that my mind, but you do have to be a little careful with these things if you look through the chart you can see there was a long. Shot in the field. Stir sterling drive believe it was who opened up a big lead in which this kind of by himself. So though the pace was fast. I don't think most of the worst were paying a whole lot of attention to him. I can see the horses that were third and fourth early finished third and fourth. So I think it was just a, you know, a case that we got the best set the best horses finished one two and not so much that they were helped so much by the piece it they got a good piece to run into. But I don't think it was like deciding factor in the race or anything like that. Yeah. That's a really good point. The other words just kind of ignored that front runner. So I think that pays characterization might be a little bit deceptive. That would definitely help tours that was trying to come from last place like seismic wave that you wouldn't want to see the opposite pay situation with wars like that. I think he's gonna wanna go farther eventually this horse. He's brand to do it. He's got a real Nice European turf pedigree on the bottom side for jug mob. So he's one with a bit of potential another horse. It certainly has potential is social paranoia. Wanna maiden race going mile on the sixteenth on Saturday Gulfstream Park? This actually earn a time who has figure that was one point higher than seismic wave, and you can't ask for a horse to win more visually impressive fashion on the turf. And this guy did know, and he actually has a pattern that I kind of like, especially with younger horses. You can see if you look at the chart at the peace figures they were up in the the one teens and the race kind of slowed down a bit after six furlongs. It was only a one oh one. But as he drew away from the field he was actually increase in those figures backup he finished with a one zero three two final time speed figure. So you know, he was well within himself. I think he had even more in the tank, which says you said visually, it's impressive as can be. And when you get the figure end the visual that usually a really good sign. That's got a super nice source here. Yeah. This is the worst that I was never a big fan of last season. Todd Pletcher gave him a bunch of chances to break his maiden. And he just seemed to keep finishing second and third couldn't quite breakthrough. But this. Great through performance, you rarely see win like this on the Turpin. I wouldn't be surprised if Todd Pletcher goes right onto a race like the American turf on derby weakened turtle downs because here dispeat- bigger to puts him right in the mix with those stakes horses. They could just keep the nominee allowance race because he ran that. Well. Yeah. It's no doubt. He he definitely fits with the stake. Sources as we saw just just by the race on this card not to dwell too much about the speed figures. But I do want to mention that Gulfstream it can be really tough with the various rail settings they use. I mean, they've had I think this week they had days where they use three different real settings on the same day. They'll even when they use the same real setting for some races. They use various run-ups, but I just want our listeners. This is something that goes into our speed figures at time form US very rarely do we have the same variant for races. Like that you kind of have to to be in the studio of what happened because one thing you just because of one run up is longer than another doesn't doesn't necessarily mean that did help the final time. So just something to keep in mind when you look at these races. If you start with trying to look at times and compare them wondering where the speed figures game from I golf stream. They're definitely comparing apples and oranges almost every time. It's a great point personally when I had to cap racist. Like, this I've gotten away from even looking at the fractions, I really just rely on the time was pace figures because to me it gives a much clearer picture of how the pace actually develop. So I think it's it's really worthwhile to pay attention to those giving back day Gulfstream Park on Friday. We saw three stakes races take place to on the turf one on the jerk will begin with the base that was the skip away which wanted a mile and three sixteenths and Marconi won this race. I think it was his second start coming off the layoff this horse that Todd Pletcher and company at high hopes for last year thrifty gotta shot of derby trail didn't really pan out. What is now taking the right steps to ascend to be stakes horse. I don't think he was beating the toughest field, but he overcame a slightly unfavorable pay scenario to do it. He did this another race. We had a Gulfstream on the dirt with just a super slow pace. I believe the peace figure for the leader was a sub seventy two open quarter mile, which is just. Unbelievable for older horses. So I don't know that you can take a whole lot out of this race from speed figure perspective. I would rather watch the race as you did and just kind of try to draw some conclusions there. There was nobody in this race that was maybe great three horses at best. But the fact that Moore Coney was able to at least beat those horses. And maybe he's got some future the others. Add kind of write him off. They are what they are probably, you know, allowance horses grade three at best. Yeah. The one of the horse to mention maybe moving forward is rocketry because if anybody was had no chance in this race. It was him. They took him to the back of the pack, and he had no chance to close into these fractions because they're basically finished up like a like a slopes turf race the equivalent of that kind of come home time and rocketry just had no opportunity to get into the race. And also even though this distance is pretty long for a lot of the so-called outer snus division. It's probably even too short rocketry who wants to go. Distances up like a mile and a half imagine. They're gonna point to racist. Like the Brooklyn on Belmont day going that distance. So he'll do better than this. Just not the right situation for a horse like that. I was actually really surprised he went off six to five just because of the distance. I mean, you know, he made his name on running though those extended races. I think he won a couple of longer than a mile and a half last year. So, you know, probably not the public's the best moment they're easy to say afterwards. I mean, none of the field looked all that strong. But he he was a puzzling favourite the me. Yeah. Agree. Just I guess the class horse and people to really take into account the conditions of the race that much a situation where the public didn't take into account the class of horses prior performances, and it actually panned out. Okay. Was when they doctor Edgar down to favoritism in the Appleton off a few allowance victories, and he had run some fast. Speed figure is going back to last summary. Ransom numbers in the one teens on time from USB figures scale. And he jumped up to run a one Twenty-one of this Appleton really nice effort from him. I thought it was a great ride from Julian Peru because he got some separation on the field early kind of back down the pace midway kinda like what discussing social paranoia the way. He's the kind of pace figure line that he said and he was able to kick on again in the stretch. Yeah. He was a part of he definitely ran good note. No doubt about that. I'd be a little area him just because he was so clear they let them just loop on all by himself. Granted the pace wasn't super slow. It was just kinda average to moderate for for this race. But clearly are always dangerous. And when you let a good horse like doctor, doctor Edgar just loop along up there for nearly six furlongs before he really got challenged. They're going to have something less for the drive. And he sure did he was able to hold off hawkish and Dr Mountie both of whom I think ran good races. And we'll be good going forward. They both look like graded stakes sources to me as doctor Edgar. So I. I think this is going to prove to be a strong rates. Yeah. I agree with that hawkish had a right to need this race. He'll probably move forward going head because I think this was his first start since he bombed the Belmont derby going act last summer, and Dr Mountie just kind of a tale of two different pay situations because he took advantage of that extremely fast paced in that race. Right. Think even hard to harvest forced to raise it as prior start when he won Brita the name of the race now. And then in this race hot air Castellano, for whatever reason just took him all the way to the back of a pack was kind of hoping for the same pay situation due to develop and it never did. He actually ran on pretty well to get up for third running traffic at the end. We'll see I think these are great three ORs was a great three race. Doctor Edgar having watched a bunch of his races. He is really game. And if you look in the eye at the sixteenth bull. He is going to try to beat you. And he showed that nasty here. He's just a really cool horse. We'll see if far Barclay tag and take him in graded stakes company, but he's just a horse. I always liked to watch because he he's a real hard Trier yet. And like, you said would hawkish he. Was one. I thought he was the favourite for a while when I did kids return and just was I mean, this is a good figure for grade three race, but they would still need to improve the move up. But I'll be surprised if at least one of these don't step up and win at a higher level. Yeah. Another low level graded stakes race that we saw on Friday goal string park was the orchid that was won by heavy favorite Santa Monica. Another antastic by rod Ortiz. He timed it perfectly to get up with this. I think she was wanted to at the end of wagering. She got up by knows it ki- Masha the runner up by has really improved for Roger rat field. She's an example of a horse that has really taken the step forward since they added Lasix. It's not something that you see often anymore, but she's just turned to life route since they added Lasix to our equipment or to her her medic stay medication to back and she put forth another top effort here. But Santa Monica just a really consistent Philly for Chad Brown who earned another graded stakes victory. She didn't I don't. Have a whole lot to say about this race. But you're not wrong to go on about a rat. Ortiz and keep mentioning he's just been riding fabulously, especially on the turf, I think he is the best her fried or out their hands down right now. And and he moves up his horses. No, doubt my mind. Yeah. I totally agree. I haven't been watching every race from Gulfstream, but the racist that I've watched just seems to be in zone right now. And you notice it when you compare them to other writers who just they don't it's hard to judge pace. And he's just been doing a really good job that we didn't even discuss three study one wire-to-wire for the three earlier on the Saturday card, but he's doing a great job putting his horses in the right positions to win races. That was all the stakes action Gulfstream Park on Friday and Saturday. There was also a ton of stakes. Accident Santa Anita was they got started racing again after a long hiatus great to see that actually putting a full card of a full weekend guard of racist. Together. We'll start at the beholder mile, which was the grade one dirt race that they ran. I don't know if it was really great one. Field especially ones Marley's freedom didn't show up with her top effort secret spice got favorable trip. Just kind of sat on the rail the entire way angled out. She's kind of weird horse to look at her past reform Ince's because she just had one race in her prior performances that suggested to might be graded stakes level, and she went back to amend some here. Really nice performance to win the race as for the others. They just didn't show up yet. I get up a battle. You can say maybe it's too long for them morally freedom and sell court of dumb, better sprinting around one turn paradise woods. I'm not sure what she's still doing out there though. I guess it was a little bit of a improved effort over what we've been seeing from her lately she won this in any Tokes last year. And I think she was the favorite in the Kentucky oaks, remember, and she's just been nothing but a disappointment since so it's a little surprised to see her in here. But secret spice ran very well to get a one twenty. It's definitely not agreed one by. From speed figure perspective, it's she run one twenty two back in October. So it's not a total shock that. She was able to get back to this level, especially against his group in you know, I guess if you have to look for the Marlies freedom so court probably to cut back, the one turn and stay there and paradise woods. I'm not sure what they're going to do with her. But secret spice, she she should definitely be one. The watching those graded stakes at seeing the Nita for Phillies and mayors that we seem to have several of. Yeah. Marley's freedom. Look like, she got second just on sheer class alone. Because coming around the far turn it really looked like she was gonna finish off the board. She was just kind of wide going backwards towards the fifth or sixth around the far turn even at the quarter. Polls didn't appear to be going where speeds did collapsed ranch, but she really stayed on. Well to be second considering that she just didn't look like she was had any momentum going for her. She'll probably turn back and distance moving forward. I imagined. Bob effort to talk about one try to turns as an experiment didn't quite work out. Like you were saying, I don't really think these are great one. Philly's specially if they have to face on the east coast moving forward in the year, but secret spice, she stepped up into stakes company and got her great one victory and can't take it away from her now as for other grade one grade one races on Saturday at Santa Anita. We saw Ohio when the kill row mile. This was a really exciting finish as catapult was flying. Adam at the end of the race. I've academy has chance to get him nearly did but a high. Oh this great Bob to hold on for the victory. I thought it was excellent ride by a Ruben Flint is it was on him. Just really used his tactical speed to his advantage throughout the race were put some others in a more difficult position. And he got the great one victory. He did like you said this was the second time on the day that I was wrong about a photo. So so maybe I'm just losing my touch or maybe I'm just getting old and nobody wants to admit that. But everybody else world. I swore for all the world that catapult had this one as did the track announcer who I saw him. Pala jobs on Twitter, which you know, it's kind of silly. I don't mind announcer making a mistake like that every once in a while. I guess, you know, betters give him a hard time. But you know, the guy thought he won I think most people thought he won. And I like when the announcer tries to make a call. So I'm not gonna knock guy too much for that. But solid one twenty three speed figure for from the top two, which is, you know, decent a little bit probably below the greed one level catapults been running a little bit faster nap, but probably some of that had to do with pace we coded the first quarter and half mile and blue is being slow, and they they were undoubtedly slow, and that's probably what gave Ohio the finish in kick that just hold them off. Yeah. Catapult has had a few difficult trips in his races. He had that really tough trip in the Pegasus where I think drivers was on a madea just made his premature move on the backstretch. He has a horse that is difficult to ride because he tends to wanna make those early moves you really need to Kevin covered up. And I thought they did a good job in this race of keeping covered up. Even though here's a little bit. Can he got out with enough time? Just couldn't quite catch. The winner of this race the horse that I thought really tough trip is probably the one you'd wanna look for next time is river Boyne who just in a slow relatively slow paced race has a compact field. The last place you want to be is just hung out wide because everybody else's saving more ground than you. And he was about three wide around the first turn four wide around the second turn just really never had a chance to get into the race. And actually did pretty well to only lose third by out knows he actually had a tough trip in his prior start to. So he's a horse that is pretty up at this point in can do a lot better next time out. We'll see if they keep them in a great one company. This river Boyne is a nice horse probably reverse one of these decisions down the line at some point. Yeah. I think the the last trip he had was pretty high profile. So I think that went into the odds and was a big part of being the second choice. But this one's a little more subtle. So it just said he's getting thirty up, and maybe you can catch a little bit of a price next time. Yeah. That's a good point. I I like to pay attention to horse that time after time trouble like this. Because after a while the public just kind of lose track of it. And I think it really adds up after a while we'll build up their price in the future, and he's one of those horses that that might happen to the highest type of speech that we saw I believe of the entire week was Saint Joe bay in the San Carlos this is a horse that has had some ups and downs during his career. He had a really nice, I think going all the way to ears. I think the seventeen. Winter Miller winning aches races spin the bumpy road for then, but he got to his best in this angle. He just looked like a winner every step of the way. Horn was our top- our pick which is into it set. If teen will which is basically figures and a real night one twenty in despite run if in his last so. So coming out of wrong field. Ken Ekka had run twenty two. So he was good. The the puzzle for me. I guess it's just a Bob Baffert factor was axeman being the five in this group. He hasn't run particularly fast few. He didn't all when he came back in the mail. He won an allowance race. We talked about with with just the socio figure certainly not greeted state like figure, so sometimes we remember these they're still they the train Perry. Morand the bracket, I think sometimes to and people over bedding these big name guys. Yeah. Believe on the podcast last time and ram. We were talking about his race. Kind of the fact that he was a horse that run very well when he didn't have to experience any adversity in kind of lower allowance races. But anytime the dub into to face the best of the division and really have to deal with the more. Typical scenario didn't seem to produce his Deford. And we saw that in this Carlos. He just couldn't keep Saint Joe bay early. Wasn't a produce top effort. Inch obey all off this effort. I mean, this was a great holiday performance will see but John John Sadler trained symbols. See if he can gather for the entire year because force that hasn't been consistent in the past. But I thought Victor win. I should mention a who wrote him this day. This was his first win back since returning to riding along Dir brain injury. The grisly knows a of this always been the fact that he's aggressive is just took no prisoners on end. And that kind of ride was able to get the money this saints. He's a nice horse though and discussed the golden Shaheen from Dubai a little bit. But I do think the vision is somewhat wide open, especially behind ROY h. I agree with you that it is why my main door ran second in its rates only Murli consider him sprint. I think he just kind of fell into just on his quad that he had. Yeah. We'll talk about the race rent. The vision is is definitely I'd open Yoder Horstedt than, you know, maybe a stake on to be a serious competitor. We haven't really seen that with the older will says routing yet. So maybe we had it would've spinner. Yeah. I would agree. A couple of graded stakes race on the turf Fantoni to one on Friday at one on Saturday. We saw the Louis Ray on Friday one by epoch blah Sunday. Bungle oh got the app distant today that route of graph first time, he's a horse that is very dangerous when he left alone on the front. This was a pretty small field. And that's what happened and he just had an insurmountable vent of the time. It got to the top of the stretch. Yeah. And this is I mean, we've mentioned it a while especially when we get these routes. He's west coast her freezes. They're just good, you know, not to be Smerch the horses. I mean, he's winning the money. They're putting them in the right spots. But these sources just aren't that Gober going to talk about the Santa Ana and a minute, but epochal came in the fact he was even money off at some of the races. He came in just shows how weak the field was he did run a one twenty one which is I guess a borderline grade three figure, but he'll do fine. If he stays in southern California if you ships around he's gonna find deep. Borders. The I totally agree with that. And I think that's especially true when we moved onto the Santa Ana because Ellas world is a horse that actually came from the east coast that was previously in Chad Brown's barn ad. I don't even think she's running at her best races right now in California. She's run faster in the past. I think she's just winning these races because there's just not much competition per to face. No, there's not I have a friend of mine guy named Greg Brown who we were talking for a while if we could throw the money together, we would just buy a bunch of Chad Brown's allowance horses back east and ship them west and win a bunch of stakes races. This was quite a few years ago. And it turned out that's been happening a whole lot. There's a lot of east coast horses that have been shipping in and taking these west coast racist. I guess L E C is world is staying there. She's you know, in that when the born of Richard Baltics, but you know, she got the distance. She wanted. I think our last Reese it was a bit short for her. She I was surprised she paid six hours to be honest. This group. I didn't look very strong on paper. And I thought she had a mover barrel. Yeah. There was a horse that finished ahead of her in the prior race. I think went off at fifty three to one that day. And they've been heard onto a short price. I was surprised about. But. Yeah as world is. Okay. But I don't think she's can be winning that many graded stakes in the future, especially if an east coast horses shipped out west the one of the race to discuss. From Santa Anita was an allowance race on Saturday was won by narrow for Bob Baffert. This is a horse that a cut onto some people's radars. Last year's three year old when he was a a sneaky strong second behind can't talk on the Sanford center, he's had some layoff since then I think this was his second start back off layoff in this mile race. But he ran pretty well. His speed figures pretty respectable for the level much. How far he wants to go in the future, but he's a horse ability. He definitely is. He was a horse that I was skeptical about last year after his maiden win. But I was kind of impressed. I think was at the San vid San I believe you mentioned that was a. Right where he lost a Kantha? But he ran very well that day, but he kind of faded out, and he came back in the Malibu and despite running seventh day he was part of a fast pace. He got a big one twenty speed figure that day, which you don't see a whole lot of horses running seventh unless they're getting that kind of number unless it's a great one to Malvo, boo. Is he disappointed when he came back into the land once in February? But you know, he look good. I like courses like this that you kind of write him off. And you know, so often we see three year olds a Joe promise and go to sideline we we never hear from them again or they just come back, and they're never quite the same. So I'll be rooting for this horse. I, you know, he definitely has some some steaks potential. I'm not saying I want a bed them if he gets into a grade to next time out, but he's one worth watching. Yeah. This is the kind of horse could see Bob Baffert, maybe shipping to east coast at some point for one of those one turn mile racist. Perhaps because I'm not sure he really wants to go the mile Nathan a lot of the graded stakes races will be run at and we'll see if he's. Really a sprint type. I think the one mile might be good for him. Because even at the end of this race. He kinda got to lugging in getting a little tired under driven Van Dyke. Who seemed like he thought he was going to win the race easier than the actually did because near was really easing himself up at the end of this race. But I agree. He's potential and he so lightly raised that he does have a room for improvement. That was all the racing that all the stakes action that we're going to discuss from the US, but we will briefly touch upon my World Cup night because there were a bunch of American horses competing over there. And we can start at the Dubai World Cup which was won for the second year in a row by thunder. Snow? It was a a weirdly run race, odd horse odd. The gronkowski was so close to the pace throughout the fast pace that some people expect a develop just never materialized and thunder snow got the right trip. Once again, you had two years in a row he draws outside gets a good trip able to make it over over to the inside. He got a one twenty five reading from time former overseas affiliate there. They actually gave gronkowski at one twenty seven. I haven't read up the see what the reasoning is for that. But those two were clear above the rest of the field which included gonna Veira Pablo audible among others for the American horses. But I actually thought if you were betting is this card, which I didn't. But I thought thunder snow was a bit of a steel. I thought he was really the only legitimate grade one horse in the race. You know, the trip did fall his way. But you know, he looks solid, and I wanna see my hope they ship them over and don't run on turf again because I think he's clearly better on third despite being agreed one winner back when I think when he was a two year old, but I'd love the same have US campaign vision that sorely lacking some quality here, and I believe that's what could Dalton said they're going to do after this race. I 'cause I don't think they're gonna take him to Europe. Again. I believe they stated that they were going to come to the US I top grade one races. And I think that makes a world of sense for horse that is clearly best racing on the dirt. It's kind of funny that all the. American horses that shipped over for the race really deep closers and the race didn't work out in their favor. The one that probably around the best racist gonna VERA because he came from well back in the pack and made a big stretch run to pass a bunch of horses. Someone we don't see happen Dubai that often to to really pass that many horses in the lane. It's just it's hard to win without style over that racetrack. I don't think it was intensely speed rail. Dave from what we've seen in past years, but it's still hard to make up that ground through the kickback at may, Dan, and and gonna varies a nice horse. This was not the toughest Dubai World Cup ever seen. So I'm not going to be that afraid of any of these horses. When they hit back to the US off these performances we've seen that show before gonna Veira. So I'm just never going to get excited with him. I'd love the onum. He's made a fortune. But you know, he's not a horse. I'm really ever interested in bedding and speaking of not being interested in betting horses, the UA UA derby to me was just an eyesore to be. Honest. Yeah. Plus get Parfait who won that race. I hope on saying that right? Because I I don't know how the announcer said it, but it wasn't that way. He's he was never really in the mix this three year old season in the US. He finished far behind war of will. I believe the risen star buddy went out to to Dubai and got the best of gray magician. Another US three role to really isn't top class. He's more of a listed stakes grade three type for Peter Miller. I thought the plot Parfait got the best of that horse because he just wanted to distance more a gray magician seems like he wants to go a little bit shorter in plus get Parfait just sort of ground up victory. Under a great ride from Jose, our tease it was. It was interesting to watch the American writers adapt to riding that made. Endured course, it seemed like Jose our t's really was riding position on a lot of his horses. Trying to get them closer to the pace. He saved a ton of ground on Park Day. Whereas Drovers Oreo who rode gray magician on a lot of his Nancy seem to just. Really be interested in getting out of the kickback. And the Catholic religion. He kept his face clean mean. He kept him out pretty wide for the entire run. And you'd almost worked out for him. I don't think that was quite got the distance this race got a one eleven time form rating, and that's just not quite good enough to compete with the best three roads. If you're comparing it to the time from speakers that these two running out here, even though the pretty mediocre yen. I even if I usually make speed figures for these Dubai races kind of unofficial, but I'll be honest. I just found these reaches thoroughly uninspiring compared to a typical card so I didn't bother but to be honest. If I rated them, I think that that race would come back even slower on speed figures because there was you know, if you adjust the time for the difference in distance between the World Cup, and this when I think you would find it's more than fourteen points quite a bit more. So just just not really a fan of this recent. I don't see the the U I E derby winner chain. Ging the fortunes of those horses in the Kentucky Derby, no, the only way they may change the fortunes of horses is if they keep other horses out of the derby because there are plenty of forces that might be better candidates for the raise the just won't have enough points to get into both of these horses move onto the dirty because given how many different winters we've had these prep race has different horses. Getting all the top three positions. The points are really scattered around this year. There's no one horse that's taking up a huge chunk of the points that have been given out. So we could see some horses excluded from the field this year. It's too early to say, but that could be something to pay attention to moving forward, the the two other German discuss for may, Dan, where the dolphin mile in the golden share he quickly to go through them. We saw X Y jets. Finally, get is golden shaky and win in his I believe is third. Try at it. The break really told the story with this race because his main pace rival promises filled. Just didn't get out of the gate negate X Y jet the advantage. He needed. Yeah. It was pretty much over at. That point the longshot horse. I think from Dubai, I know, it's not an American horse. I'm Tera sky. Was was the only one even get close. I guess you could look at this as a good return for promises fulfilled. I recent awhile since Breeders Cup given the start that he had an imperial hint showed a few signs of life compared to rates at Tampa last time where he just little terrible. So, you know, maybe these will come back and show with something. I'm never going to be an X Y jet fan. They keep you know, every time he try until this when he tries top company, he's really come up lacking. And I think that is is how bet them going forward. I'm I'm just not a big fan of his. I don't think he's he's obviously very fast. But I think when he runs up against good competition ingred wants sprints. He's always going to have trouble holding them off. Well, he's at the mercy of pace because in need the lead type horse. And sometimes when you have other speedway is in the race. He just goes way too fast. And can't hold together. That's not what happened in this Bolton. She shane. When his main pace rival, did you get out of the gate? We'll see if they could duplicate that kind of effort against great one company in the US of a huge imperial head. I like these shows signs of life of still not quite convinced that he's back to his best yet hopefully can get there. But I'm not sure this race has real ramifications for this division. We'll see moving forward. Godolphin mile coal front beat a horse that was based in may Dan all winter heavy metals actually won this race last year. And I thought heavy metal ran a winning race in spotty got the right trippy needed staying up from the entire way riding that rail and coal front lost all that ground coming around the term, but still able to wear them down under a very persistent. Jose Ortiz, we talked about this horse winning one at Oakland last month. I believe it was or six weeks ago somewhere in that timeframe. And I hit look good. He didn't look, you know with the furlong to go. He didn't look like he was going to get up. I saw a video. I guess Todd Pletcher was watching the recent and. He got pretty excited about as excited you'll ever see Todd getting public. So that was a fun watch. It's worth looking for. If you can find it out, there time form rated him one Twenty-one, which is pretty much in line with the speed figures that he got from us, which, you know, put them in the grade to grade three range probably closer to grade three. So you know, you can't blame Taty sent them over he won the big purse with a horse who who's probably really not that level. But like Mersa most of the dirt races on this card. I think it was below blow average year for the whole card on the dirt. I feel the same way and tickle credit. He likes to win raises. He knows how to win. He gets in a dogfight to the wiring. He really will be you. I've never been a big fan of this horse. I think he's been a little bit over rated. But he got the job done in this race. And I'm not going to be too hard on him. He he's a nice horse for Pletcher and Todd just on a very good job putting him in the right spots and really maximizing potential the one of the race from Dubai that. I want to touch upon is the Dubai. Earth where almond die star Philly from Japan really gained international stardom taking on her first race outside of Japan. Easily winning this Dubai turf. I think this is just going to kick off in international campaign could include races in England in France willing forward, I know, the Japanese connections are very interested in winning the arc Triomphe. So hopefully, get to see her again some of the top horses in Europe later in the year. But I've been following this Philly I liked to walk the Japanese races. I'm kind of a closet fan of all those Japanese grade ones all stay up late at night of watch a few of them. And I remember seeing all the way back in the okay show when she won the first leg of the Japanese fillies triple crown out there. And she just has this dazzling Tournant foot. She's a really nice. Thoroughbred, yes. She t- one actually a lot easier. I think it even looked you know, numerically, you're visually time form rated or a one twenty four with the plus which you know, means I think she definitely had more in the tank and could've gone faster. It's not something they use very liberally. I'm like you. I stay up and watch those great ones from Japan. I watched the Hong Kong, even the Australia. If with winks, I think it's almost mandatory viewing now. But I I won't pretend to be able to divert these horses and put them in context compared to ours. But I always like watch Phillies like this a especially when the Phillies step up and beat the colts. And she's doing it easy. And really look forward to see enemy who knows of it will actually happen. But wow would have matchup. It would be with her. And then able yeah, we're running out of time. So I won't get your thoughts on the the wings photo shoot from from Australia. But I did see that on Twitter. Yeah. Almond die her real strength. I think is that she can go variety of distances. I think they really had a choice whether or not to runner in this Dubai turf at nine furlongs or the Dubai Sheema classic going the mile half. Because I believe she set the world record for a mile and half in the Japan Cup last. I know that was kind of a rocker hard Turku. But she can really get that distance. And and she'll just a running style. The do it she'll say closer to the pay. So she is just a really dangerous villian. I would love to see her against a horse like a naval moving on later in the year in Europe. The I don't know if you want to discuss any other by races. I thought belvoir bay put for the really nice effort to be second for arguably one of the best performances. We saw at the Americans behind blue point in the sprint. She's a really stepped floor for Peter Miller lately. And I wasn't shocked that she actually ran that. Well, because I think we had discussed on the pace cast going back to believe early February her priorities at Santa Anita was just monstrous. Yeah, we definitely talked about her, and we even mentioned her as a Breeders Cup horse because you know, I was really surprised she was able to easily turn back to five furlongs where she'd been kind of down the hill specialist, but t showed me that they she's the real deal, and she's probably she's obviously one of the top turf sprinters we have in the country. Stormy liberal ran a decent third. But I think belvoir bay was clearly the. Better horse on this day. Yeah, I agree with that the Sheema classic. We saw support us from from Europe Japan run, very well old Persian. Seems like he'll go on to have a nice year group run races in in England and France, but we won't discuss that reason debt that one of the race will discuss going back to the US just for a second. I wanted to mention a really impressive debut in Oakland park last weekend. Yeah. I did. Just glad we're able to get the disk Sean in the studios pry tapping his fingers trying to get us out of here. So we'll finish up real quick. But a lot of people might missed it. It was last race on Sunday at Oaklawn park, a maiden special weight and Doug O'Neill sent they first time starter out there at Oakland who just one really easily named Landis crock Landis cog. He just looked very good doing it. And the number came back fast. The not a hidden scroll type quite number. But he ran a one twelve he said a solid pace while doing it. He was pressed by horse who had run. Some pretty decent figures. Already both the two and three horses had run high nineties hundred figures already so the one twelve isn't a stretch by any imagination. And obviously he's getting started a little eight for any derby, talk or anything like that. But he just looks like a horse that has a future to me in the three year old division guy actually noticed race. And I come with the charts from last weekend took note of it because of his lopsided victory at the time. I didn't see what kind of number you gave him, but I did watch the replay. And just really impressive. He seems like more of a sprinter to me which wouldn't be surprising, given his pedigrees. But this ability so could be interest where he goes from here. Speaking of the three year olds or it's gonna be a lot of action over the next week as we get game winner Eck in the derby for his derby, the bluegrass memorial. They're shaping up to be. I'd open racing. None of the contenders are races. I think the likely bluegrass coma. Talking on the morning line for the wood. And it's wide open will Tacitus tax as well as other horses like Haikal Gotham in their Beatles races. Look a little bit more clarity. Hopefully cease it some more straightforward results. This Turbie picture is really crying out front end up performance. But we'll have lots to discuss all of those races next week. And as always you could find us all the time from pace cast on F dot com Spotify tunes YouTube sound cloud. 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Elite QB or Top 5 Defense?

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Elite QB or Top 5 Defense?

"You want it you need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show. Now here's Kevin. You're listening into the sports thing here errands here. I am here today. We've got a lot of stuff to get to. I wanted. I wanted to start real quickly with this. The News. That Morgan wootten is very ill Morgan wootten according to demand is now at home with hospice. Care eight years old De Matha put out a tweet. They want the entire community to know how much he appreciates all of the love and support he and his wife In the family have received received the prayers mean the world to them He hasn't passed okay at this point So I I hesitate to really do a whole sort of retrospective but in reading that news early. This morning I heard Gully doing it on on his show On the way in and I just thought about a lot of things I mean I thought about the lunch with with a legend that you and I did we organ which was so fascinating and so interesting because we got all of those stories about the high school days in the rivalry with John Thompson which there was no love lost now between the two of them. I thought personally I've often thought about this. We all have experiences his from. You know you're young. You know formative years and I went to Morgan. Wootten and Joe Gallagher's basketball camp which was called Metropolitan Boys basketball USC school every summer for. I don't know eight years. You know from like age. Seven to fifteen or sitting in fifteen. I would go route two weeks minimum every summer. I it was a day Camp Tommy but it became eventually away camp which they did Somewhere we're up in in Maryland anyway. It it was the most It was the best camp on the East Coast. Kids from all over the East Coast came into this basketball camp. I mean you had so much talent there in the counselors. Were Damalf in Saint. John's players. So you know some pretty eventual ritual really good college basketball players like my coach one year was Derrick Wittenberg famous Derrick Wittenberg who through the past a Lorenzo Charles or miss the shot shot in the eighty two championship game. And so you know I talked about it this morning. There are people that sent me God. I went to that basketball camp to Danny ferry was my you know my counselor sir. My coach in the whole thing but It was such a great experience and I think about all the people when you are a coach. Teacher and Morgan wootten was a teacher too and according to a lot of people was a great world history teacher for years at Matha when you think of somebody who has spent his entire career coaching high school basketball and and teaching. You know in a high school. You'd think about all the people he's influence. Yeah it's amazing. I mean it's remarkable. I mean you know. I'm in outside her. I mean I didn't grow up around here you know. I didn't experience any of that. But I'm constantly amazed at all all the people Who Have Fond memories who he touched? Yeah you know at one point or another. I mean. Some of whom didn't play basketball. Ride anything to do with basketball so so I. He's one of the most influential figures among on the community of our time. You know I probably early failed here in the first three or four minutes of the show. Not Everybody listening knows who. Morgan wootten is. Who are are understands? His impact. Morgan wootten is really the greatest high high school basketball coach of all time. You know he's got a twenty two five mythical national championships which is what High School is twenty two championships ships here in DC. When they used to play the city title game they don't really anymore thirty three WC AC titles. The Washington Catholic Athletic Conference Conference has been and still is the Best Basketball League in America for High School basketball in fact right now and I just did something on this the other day on the radio show four teams from that league or on the ESPN top twenty five right now or not one. Other Metro area has more than one team and this league has four. Four of the top twenty five nationally. DAMALF isn't Gonzaga's in at Saint. John's is in it and Peguy Paul the sixth all of them in the top twenty five. Anyway Morgan wootten is a legendary region dairy highschool coach. He's in the basketball hall of fame. He's one of three high school coaches in the basketball hall of fame. John Wooden the great. Ucla coach many many years ago called Morgan wootten from De Matha the greatest basketball coach of all time in terms of his ability to coach basketball. This is who Morgan wootten is he. He was sick previously. You know in the nineties. He nearly died from a malfunctioning liver and then he had a kidney fail on his son donated one of his kidneys And so he's eighty eight years old and our prayers are out to him. But I I'll never forget unite. That lunch with a legend was so much fun to do. There what did we do that for. I was trying to think of it this morning. It was like five years. Yes it's like five years and we did two or three or four a year. Yeah it was a lot of fun. Somebody somebody Greg asked me this morning. So why did you stop doing it. I said well I think we ran outta legend. Shed pretty much yeah. There was one that we never got that we wanted. Do you remember. No one DC legend that we you and I both attempted multiple times. We both had conversations with them about it. Oh right yes sugar ray. Leonard was the the only one we felt like we needed to get we never got. We never did get ray anybody else that you consider to be a sports legend with the exception of Alex Ovechkin. When we're doing it I I mean Ovechkin was on the verge of it but we didn't have ovechkin right And we didn't have Walter Johnson or Sammy Baugh but that two hours spent with him that day. It was so cool for me because I did grow up in this area and played basketball and my father was a basketball coach when he was as a young man and I was taken to Damascus Saint. John's games demands macking games. When I was twelve years old? My Dad would be like we're GONNA we're we're GONNA see DAMALF replacing Johnston I big game in a number one versus number two and then going to that basketball camp. Which Morgan Wootten Joe Gallagher? Who was the longtime legendary saint? John's coach here in town. You know they. They were the two owners of that camp and it became super popular thousands of kids a summer would go to it in so so many high school and Future College players you know came out of that basketball camp and he used to do something at the end of each camp day. It was a tradition in that basketball. Camp Morgan Wootten and Joe Gallagher would address the camp at the end of the day. Say something and by the way Tom Tommy they would have the best speakers and guests come. uh-huh they would have the best you know from Pete Muravich to Bill Russell. Eight hour rack. Read our back. Every summer was a lock to come through But at the end of every day at Camp Morgan wootten would go to half court after he said whatever he would say and he would attempt his bounce shot where he'd throw the ball all straight up in the air and have it bounce just inside the free throw line and it would go in. It took them three or four attempts but the camp wendover until he made one. I would finally make one. He had that shot down but You know I was so anyway. Our prayers out to Morgan wootten and his family. But when I was talking about our lunch with the legend earlier this morning My favorite one was the one you weren't there for and it wasn't. That's not why it was my favorite one but you it. It was just John Thompson in me. I think you were out that day. Your couldn't make it or whatever I forget what the circumstance was around it as we were doing the show. But you couldn't make that one. That was to me the most interesting when just because of his life but one of Sonny was the one I owe you that. Ah Yes you did I. Oh you a copy sunny jergens legend. Yeah Sunny noted. Sunny was the one that was great. That was absolutely great. Lefty was was unbelievable. Dexter was memorable bolster. Killed Myself. Your phone he drowned here fall around on. My phone is slamming his fist on cowboy week. Yes so those are the three that come to mind that were really legendary. There was one where we almost almost lost which he painted. We almost lost CI pettibone. We all stay off a stage in behind us. That had no back. Who saved him I you did I did? Yeah this quick quick on the react. I'm telling you grabbed a chair before he went backwards off of. Maybe I don't know a three to about four or five foot elevated. What would have been a bad fall? Ugly Yes Ritchie was great. John Thompson was greg. Gary Williams was awesome. Yes yes you weren't there also for the Jim Palmer one. No I was not. He was phenomenal. I think he did that before we that that may be true. But you know we did Bob Dandridge we've been having Grieving Kevin Grieve now. It's great we also did a couple of them. That weren't so good now. We won't mention what those were now. The left lefty one. Though I told Greg the story this morning I think you remembered that basically I asked him for like a year and a half remembering he wanted to get paid. Yeah every time I would call them up and he'd see we'll you know. Yeah I don't know I I you got to pay me and I see lefty. We didn't pay John. We didn't pay Gary. Well they live up there. I live down at a tidewater in Virginia Beach And finally remember. We came up with chuck. came up with some money to pay lefty. I don't know a thousand Bucks fifteen dollars in Ronnie. There was all kinds of stuff limo galeano there. There was a gift basket right. There was all kinds of but finally we got. I mean it'd a bit in. That was one that I went out and got and I was in contact with lefty over a year and a half period before he finally decided he would do it and so the day of the the show with lefty being the primary guest. We used to do these things down at Morton's Downtown and Connecticut Avenue and we'd rent the restaurant out we'd sell L.. Tickets in a lot of those things sold out immediately. Lefty sold out him yet and we packed the place and it was really a lot of fun and so were down. Aaron what typically happened is our show started at noon in there was an eleven thirty meet and greet with you and me and then whomever the lunch with the legend guest was to you take pictures sign sign things and so I told you got to be there at eleven thirty and we've got a car picking you up too so at eleven twenty nine. Am I look at my cell phone and lefties colonies. Not there yet at Morton's and I pick up the phone and I go lefty. He Goes Kevin Man. I was thinking about this. I need need more money to do this. That's what he said to me. You remember this. I vaguely remember. He said I'm going to need more money to do this. And I sit. Are you shitting me or you out of your mind. Nine people are here. It's backed and he said man. I'm just kidding. I'm on the Elevator Co.. I was laughing literally almost the door. And he's pointing that I got you. Yeah Yeah you've got to go you pretty you pretty mad. We'll after negotiating with you for a year and a half over basically nichols. It wouldn't have surprised me so so anyway That was a really good one. Anyway so we got sidetracked there. Th- that net of the of the message here is we. We send our prayers out to Morgan. Wootten who is an all all time. You know athletic sports figure in this city but you know in high school sports probably the most well known high school coach in the history basketball basketball is. He's one of three high school coaches in the hall of fame. He's he's he's in the Naismith Basketball Hall of fame. That's all you need to know all right so Before it gets to a a redskins topic and you got some stuff today too. I WANNA did did you. We didn't talk about about this Erin yesterday on the podcast and I didn't see this. I don't think until maybe yesterday after the show Danny Canal who I think works for Sirius. Xm Sam now he doesn't work for ESPN anymore. He's a weasel by the way so he is an out right. We don't know really listen. I know his I mean he really is is an idiot when it comes to public opinions really so. Let's let's hear this. Okay disowned latest more. So he got a lot of attention for a take take. He had on twitter during the forty niners packers game. It came after the play where Aaron Rodgers in the first half fumbles or botches the snap nap with his center on the one drive in the first half or the packers actually removing apple and ended up being a turnover and the ball was on the ground it was recovered instantaneously continuously by the way but forty nine years. And I'll get to that moment but canal tweeted right after the play quote. This is cringe-worthy why doesn't Rogers get on this or we're not even try. We skewered Cam Newton for a similar play in the Super Bowl. That was his tweet so I I didn't see this. I guess until yesterday. Yeah I think after the show. Maybe it's one of the worst. I went back and looked at it because my my first reaction was Aaron. Rodgers Cam Newton the ball with rate in front of them like in that Super Bowl game. He he he avoided it like he didn't want any part of the contact. Aaron Rodgers definitely doesn't make a play on this ball. But here's the reason and this is what makes it to me. One of the worst takes of all time time. The two situations the two plays are not even close. Aaron Rodgers fumbled the. Snap it literally. Tommy if you go through it and watch watch it on replay slow it down. Real time doesn't matter. Eight hits the ground in jets forward and almost instantaneously is recovered by forty niners defensive Lineman deforest buckner. who was on the other? Side of the line of scrimmage. There's no attempt from Rogers to make a plan recovering the ball because the ball gets recovered immediately. Making it unrecoverable in that particular situation in fact if you you look at it even if it hadn't been recovered immediately the ball moved away from Rogers and then is behind this massive humanity which is the the defensive and offensive lines almost acting as a wall in front of where the ball is hit. No chance in fact it only only the receivers that were split out. Maybe he's running back had less of an opportunity to make a play. I think you're giving Rogers way too much note here. You have less time. You saw this play. Oh Yeah I saw You know replace on Sunday. Yeah but it was hard to follow. The ball wasn't it yacht for him because he saw got recovered immediately. Okay Okay Danny Canal was not got a loan I didn't say was okay. What I what I am saying is it's the worst take anybody I have had Mike Medal longtime together here? Are Here Martin Arne similar. Mike McCartney the Turks Agent Arc's agent. Yeah he tweeted out. I think I just saw business decision. Yeah well he's wrong. Okay no anybody. Anybody that has that position is dead wrong. Well let me just say this. They're dead wrong if they compare it to the Cam Newton play. That's what's totally inaccurate and to me. What canals doing there is? He is tweeting something and creating this hot. Take with a bit of racial ashore. Overtone to it. You know. Aaron Rodgers White quarterback doesn't make a move on the fumble doesn't get criticized and then Cam Newton Black quarterback gets criticized like hell. The bottom line is the two plays are not even remotely close Cam Newton. Tommy because I went back and watched the two CAM. Newton in that super bowl is in throwing throwing motion in his. The arm gets all the way back. Von Miller swipes and strips the ball. The ball bounces in front of Cam. Newton no more than two three maybe three and a half feet away from him with nobody around the ball he looks at it he starts to make a play for it and then demarcus ware from the ground being blocked reaches. She's his arm in the direction of the ball and Cam Newton stops and backs up if anybody that is viewing this objectively. Which I was going into it? We'll see that these two plays are not remotely close Cam. Newton decided not to go forward. He made a business decision in the Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers never ever had a chance to make a decision. The ball was recovered within less than a half a second after the ball it literally hits. His hands bounces underneath the centre egner. Forward right into divorce BUCKNOR's arms. And then he gets up and tries to run with it. The Aaron Rodgers is looking at the whole thing. He starts to back up by the time he would even take a step forward. The ball's already recovered and by the way through hadn't been recovered. He's got no chance the balls on the other. Side of the line of scrimmage so anyway I I just thought after reading that thing somebody sent it to me and then going back and looking at it and anybody. That felt that way. It's a terrible take. Now you say Aaron Rodgers made a business decision by not going thing after deforest buckner and really making an effort. That's different from Cam. Newton got criticized for doing the same thing he didn't he didn't do the same thing. It was a totally different thing. I'll take your word for it. I didn't break them down like this Abreu film I did so I I. I don't know I just thought for an agent to comment comment about another player like that in a game I thought was pretty strong. A pretty that was pretty strong. I didn't see his take. That is pretty strong. Yeah you know that I think I just I saw business to say well you know it was part of a half in which Aaron Rodgers was completely befuddled. You don't see him that much that way and it looked really like he was at times lackadaisical and disinterested in the entire you know Performance in the first half you know for the way he is when he's playing well too. I mean that's part of Aaron Rodgers is mystique is that I mean he. Oh he does he. His expression doesn't seem to change whether he throws a sixty are touchdown. Pass or fumbles the ball. That's he's expressionless. That's true sure. I think it was more about. There was sort of a lack of physical urgency from him in the first half but again like I talked about this yesterday and I don a you did radio yesterday on the holiday like he didn't have a chance in the first half now. That defense was overwhelming. Yeah by the way the when the forty niners I had the ball they. They didn't get stopped right. They couldn't protect them. No they really had a difficult time protecting at that point but like I said look one of the things thanks I admire about. Aaron Rodgers is when he throws a fifty yard pass. It's like you're I throw in a piece of paper in a wastepaper basket. The mount the amount of body motion seeing him when he does fast so quick and so limited. Yeah you know he's not Mahomes S.. Yes in a way but so I just think that's just his style. His his disinterest style. I mean I think the most excited he is is when he does a state farm commercial. Yeah Yeah Well I. I agree with that but there is definitely you know I was saying yesterday that. I think the three quarterbacks Heathrow Lamar Jackson into this too but like you're you you're watching three. I know you're GonNa hit me with Tarkenton install back and you're right you know. And there are others but mahomes in Rogers and Russell Wilson and Jackson or like the the. It's incredible how unbelievably good they are at extending place. That don't have shot. You know as called and they make so many plays off schedule Mahomes ridiculous in the last two games. How many off schedule plays he makes in? Rogers is the same way. He just couldn't do it against that defense in the first half now they were overwhelmed. Now but but you're right about Tarkenton install back particularly starbuck stall back. The Guy who who would have talking talking tarkenton would not have made that run up the field for touchdown that Mahomes did store back. Would've he would've made that run. Because STARBUCK DOC was not afraid to contact right he would seek it out now. The difference between starbucks making that run in nineteen seventy seven and mahomes making that run in twenty twenty is that starbucks would have taken a massive shot at the beginning of that run whereas the Tennessee linebacker that approached him Wiz tiptoeing as to not draw fell in Mahomes took advantage of that. Yes you know the rules. Being what they are now star back would have sought contact and would have received contact contact big contact and Tarkenton Tarkenton was was just as great as Mahomes is scrambling and throwing throwing but he would not have taken off on a run like that he would not talking to a small tiny was he was running around zipping. I've been around all over rated in terms of quarter. I mean He. For years he held a touchdown record in the NFL. I think three hundred forty two career touchdowns else for years. That was the record. Well I mean. Didn't he have the passing yardage for many many years so I mean he's a very hunter made his mark Marino probably probably who went to citizen who took his team than Super Bowl. Three times took the Vikings to the Super Bowl. Joe Kennedy was the fourth right so I mean he's. He's an underrated quarterback in the scope of thing. I agree with that. I I mean I I mean. I always remember talking to not only as a great quarterback but a quarterback didn't win the Super Bowl but one a lot of big game. Yes you know. They put it this way. They got there three times within which meant he had to win. Two playoff games in each of those three years to get there in fact I would like to see what Fran Tarkenton's Playoff record is because I bet. It's pretty Dan good even though he didn't He didn't I. Six and five career is a playoff quarterback Loss to the dolphins and the Super Bowl remind remind me just mentioned something about that game here in a moment this steelers in the first steelers super bowl win and then lost to the raiders. That Great Raiders Nineteen Seventy six and neither either one neither one of the three super bowl losses were close But but they beat good teams like Dallas in the rams and the redskins you know in the postseason yeah to To get to those super bowls not the Redskins in a championship game but a divisional playoff game twice. What about the redskins dolphins? So Jimmy Garoppolo's six eight. You know for seventy seven yards in the first quarter right for the game for the game. I know I know where you're kidding. Yeah let's Ah you. You had this serious surprised. Let's make Aaron Rodgers. I didn't pick up on that. 'cause you actually gave me a look that you give often when you're confused used which I see usually twice a show So he had eight attempts in a winning playoff game the fewest since since Bob macey. I knew that was common in Super Bowl. Seven a super bowl eight. Excuse me which was the Super Bowl Against Minnesota Ota in that particular superbowl greasy with six of seven for seventy three yards prior to that in that same postseason. Listen Where they lost to To Miami where they were they were were the dolphins beat Minnesota. Excuse me in the Super Bowl. They won the seventy three season. I'm back in the playoffs for actually contested in in December and then the super bowl was the only thing in January. In fact the date of that superbowl was January thirteenth. In our in early February. You know for the Super Bowl so in that particular Playoff season so he was six or seven in the Super Bowl game. Hold on I'm going to find it here in a second I apologize. I want had it yesterday. And that was the year so that the dolphins had the two one thousand yard rusher. Yeah that when Mercury Morris Seventy two was I think the redskins they had they had mercury Morris and Larry Jim kicked his really close. Yeah Jim kick hype about six hundred seven hundred yards and and Morrison Sonko both had over a thousand. This is why Greasy could throw seven times in a super bowl and in the AFC championship game. Tommy the week. Before against the the raiders in a game that they won twenty seven to ten easily. No sweat game. He was three for six for thirty four yards. I mean what we saw in this postseason with the tannahill numbers you know heaped had more attempts but a throwing for one hundred and then with Garoppolo six six for eight in an NFL game in twenty twenty and they win the game going away. You have to go back to Bob Greasy in the seventies to see something that was similar to op greasy in the hall of fame fame. By Way yes he is yes. He is deserving Yeah I do I think I felt like when I watched him play. He was all fame quarterback. I did you know the remarkable thing about those dolphin teams. And I'm sure people have asked Paul Warfield. This people who played in that era will tell you that Paul Warfield may have been the greatest. NFL receiver all tire. But he had but his numbers are pale to to everybody because they didn't throw the ball. Throw the football. But Paul Warfield was universally respected. I was wondering great receivers But his numbers. Just don't don't just don't add up to it and how frustrating I'm wondering how frustrating. It must've been for this guy who was the best receiver on the field any given Sunday. You know suit to have a quarterback through ten times a game will. That was an era of two number. Forty Two's who were great. Charlie Taylor Warfield both wore the same Jersey number forty two in both were considered the best receivers but at least had sunny Johnson for years. Yeah well I mean. This is why I like Bob Greasy in the hall of fame. I didn't see I saw. I remember a lot of his career. Okay and seventies is where I I remember football but I mean. I'm looking right now. At A- At Greasy has a playoff quarterback first of all you know the year they went undefeated earl. Moral was the quarterback for that year greasy was hurt in moral started the AFC AFC championship. Game Against Pittsburgh I. He started that game. Greasy came in for moral in that game game. They won just as a side note. It's just kind of odd odd back then. Homefield advantage wasn't determined by record. It was determined each year. They had a rotating Home Field Advantage for the championship game for divisions at this division has home field. This year next year didn't matter and as the fourteen o Miami Dolphins Fourteen in Oh they played the AFC championship game at Pittsburgh will. They're fifteen and they won the week before so they were on the road as an undefeated team in the AFC title game at Three Rivers Stadium. They won the game but in that Super Bowl against the redskins which was super bowl. Seven Greasy was eight for eleven for eighty eight arts. Yeah then I gave you the three for six the following year in the AFC championship in six seven in that Super Bowl he had a playoff game in seventy one one. which was the week after the famous Christmas Day game at Arrowhead which is think's still the longest game in NFL history the AFC championship game that year against Baltimore which was in Miami? He was four for eight four for eight. I would I mean this is what you had back then. And they had a great great running game but you also had games that were much shorter fewer plays although in that particular game. How about this through forty four completions for one hundred fifty fifty eight yards? Hey go come on. That's fifty something that's yours for completion. Not Fifty two yards three hundred and fifty eight yards yards in. He's literally almost forty yards per completion in that game. That's inefficient quarterback. Let's see Warfield must have had all of them. Warfield had a seventy any five yard touchdown catch. Warfield had two catches for one hundred twenty five yards came. And then Howard twilly who never Howard caught a touchdown pass against the Redskins in Super Bowl. Seven had two catches for thirty three years. Okay anyway enough of this. I remembered who is tight end from those teams Mar Fleming. Coming Amar Fleming's to play for packers. It right wasn't he. was he a baseball player too. I don't think so maybe I'm thinking somebody else from those teams. I'm pretty sure that the year the you had to one thousand yard rushers in a fourteen game regular season with a near third. I'm pretty sure that was their undefeated. Season Elk And then remember after the next Super Bowl so they lost the cowboys beat. The redskins beat the Vikings all three straight in three straight super bowls and two of them and after that second win over Minnesota Soda There was a massive defection to the world. Wally that's right. We're a lot of the dolphins warfield and Sonko and kick right all went all well football league. Yeah the world was it only lasted like half a season right. That's where John Matuzek started. The Great John Matuzek started in the world football league. Yeah I don't I mean I I remember. It was like a Summer League Spring Summer League and the Games were televised. And what year was this. Seventy four. I think you see. I was drunk a lot. It wasn't old enough to draw a seventy four anyway so let me let me get to this thing that I worked on for you just for me just for you so so nice you so consider it. I don't know why people we'll say you're so mean. I put in a lot of effort for the show yesterday so So yesterday Tommy I was mentioning with the forty niners winning in the chiefs winning that you know it's sort of a reflection that it can be done in so many different ways you know you've got an elite quarterback and you've got an elite defense in the forty niners or great defensive team the chiefs are really led by a lot of weapons on offense but they're in the Super Bowl because of Patrick mahomes more than anything else and that you know there are lots of ways to do it in you know we so many football fans. We'll see you gotta have the quarterback. You gotTa have the quarterback and I've always felt you know to a certain degree that you really have to have the quarterback back as well so I set out yesterday too quickly. Just look at some data from the last ten years ears and it turned into a three hour project that I finished very early this morning. But basically I went through the exercise of looking at the the elite quarterbacks for the last ten years and the elite defensive teams of the last ten years because I was absolutely convinced that what I was gonna find. Is that if you've got the elite quarterback even though there are many ways to do it more often than not. The elite quarterback produces more than the elite defense. I thought that's what I was going to find What I found was basically that the two situations are exactly the same and bear with me here so the first thing I did is as I went through all the quarterbacks and I came up with my own sort of you know my own? Definition of what a franchise elite quarterback. He's and I I said top eight in the League for the last ten years. You may come up with something else. Everybody listening may come up with their own definition. I came up with Brady was going to look at Brady breeze. Rogers Jurors Russell Wilson Peyton manning even though he only played five of the ten years during the decade Russell. Wilson didn't play the entire decade either Ben Rothlisberger. And then. Can I throw in a Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers to round out the eight best quarterbacks the truly elite quarterbacks of of the decade You know you could walk or you could argue Newton briefly or mahomes for two years but those were the eight that came up with no Kirk. No Kirk so so and I'm just asking what everybody else out. There is as I say moment. I I wouldn't have thought of Kirk. Is Eight quarterback okay decade first of all. I didn't start for the first time until twenty fifteen okay now if we did the last five years anyway the numbers. These were remarkable. When I went through I took the top eight quarterbacks and I first of all you know went through every game? They started in their records as starters orders. The team's records stars the eight quarterbacks over ten year period had a six fifty six winning percentage in the regular season season. If you took when then I went through the defenses. I took the top five defensive teams each year for ten years. Okay and if you added up the records Kurds of all of those teams in the top five defenses in two thousand ten. The top five defense in twenty fourteen and went to teams records were their winning percentage six fifty four identical. Wow identical winning percentages. If you had an elite quarterback or you had a top five defense and I went to the next step. which was the postseason? So with these quarterbacks there were seventy three opportunities to play in the playoffs. It wasn't eight times ten because some of the quarterbacks didn't play every year yeah Forty eighty nine out of the seventy three opportunities to go to the post season. They went forty nine times. Sixty seven percent of the time. If you had one of those elite quarterbacks those eight elite quarterbacks you went to the postseason if you had a top five defense so it was basically five defenses times ten years fifty opportunities. You went to the playoffs. Offs thirty five times seven percent almost the same yet percentage. And then when you look at the next step which was winning super bowls are getting two super bowls. Twelve twelve of the elite eight quarterbacks over ten year period twelve times they participated in Super Bowls and eight times. A top five defense made it to the Super Bowl. So let let me clarify in the Super Bowl in the super bowl thing the elite quarterbacks twelve times at a seventy-three opportunities they went to the Super Bowl for the top defense is eight times out of fifty sixteen percent sixteen percent identical right so winning percentage was identical participating in the Super Bowl identical dental the only thing that was slightly different was that about by about a three percentage difference. Is that if you had a top five defense. More likely to participate in the postseason at seventy to sixty seven percent. I found that none of this is is revealing because everybody knows. If you have a great quarterback you're GonNa win more and if you have a great defense you're probably going to win. More when I found interesting is that the numbers were almost identical almost identical so essentially. If somebody says you gotTa have the quarterback no if you have a top five defense you have just exactly the same chance. What about those defenses? That had a great had so good questions so there was some crossover there. was you know the the Seattle teams the Green Bay team that went to the Super Bowl and went to the playoffs. Pittsburgh with there were teams. I didn't break those out. There obviously examples of teams. That had I five defense and a an elite quarterback and obviously your preference if you were choosing between hey elite quarterback or great defense or both. You'd take both clearly but yet there are plenty of examples of where you had both but I also went and looked at those teams and thought which was more sort word of the reason that they were there. And out of the last ten super bowls. Basically you come up with five teams where they were defensive. Lead and five winners. That were primarily primarily quarterback or offensive led sort of Split on that front to I guess what this lead to was this. So the data data says if you've got a top five defense in a given year or you got you know next year if you've got a top five defense your chances of winning. You'll win the same number of games as a team with with an elite quarterback. You'll have the same chance if not a slightly better chance to advance to the playoffs. And you'll have the exact same chance to make it to the Super Bowl however if you think about this and and and sort of thought about it in these terms right now would you rather have. San Francisco's defense or Patrick Mahomes Beezer both in the Super Bowl. Wouldn't you say Patrick Mahomes. Yes so would I and what that really says. Is that if you have. The elite quarterback that chances that that Eh quarterback is going to sustain that elite level of play over ten years is greater than your ability to have a top five defense each every year for ten years which I think is true. Well PA- part of the reason for that is. The game is geared towards the offense. I mean the you know. The the game is geared. I offenses score more than the defense to stop them from scoring. That's the way of the rules of the NFL now but mahomes you have to put him in separate elite category. Because I don't think there's anybody else saved from Lamar Jackson not yet even. I don't think there's anybody on that elite list other than the homes that can counteract a great defense by being able to score within a minute on any given time I mean that's that's that's the Mahomes Gravis is that's why I didn't think that Tennessee would have really had any chance. Because as as as much as they control the the ball if they wanted to grow as much as the defense would be able to stop them Patrick Mahomes can scorn one minute. I mean most of these quarterbacks ask can't get down the field like he can that that Reich is so so unlike anything we've seen that that's definitely a conversation that we have to the have between now and the Super Bowl is just this freak. That is Patrick Mahomes. Because I don't know that it's getting You know at least for me as as much attention in these first two days following the AFC championship. Game as I'd like to give it because I'm blown away. Those are two of the best back to back quarterbacking performances. This is. I think I've ever seen it. I'm trying not to be sort of captured by the moment in the recency bias that we always have like the greatest we've ever seen or the worst thing we've ever ever seen but my God what Patrick Mahomes just did. The last two weeks is outrageous. Only Jenkins wrote about it in her column home. She pointed this out over the two years that he's been starting. Yeah the chiefs in their losses have never lost the game by for more than seven points. That's what I didn't know that one that's never many games. But the losses never more than seven never more than a touchdown and an extra point away from tying the game. That's crazy Yeah that's the anyway. I mean we can move on to that that portion of it actually I'm going to add to that. Be somebody a caller mentioned something to me today that I think you'll find interesting and I found interesting because I thought I agreed with him. But the bottom line is for me. I'd still take the quarterback and the redskins are going to have you know potentially a chance it either the great defense with an addition of great defensive prospect like like. It's young or an elite quarterback. Probably not borough but what if we were Tunga. Viola T T to a ton viola gets evaluated as a great quarterback quarterback. Some people out there Erin had somebody on his gambling show with Murray Jenkins that that From pro football focus that said to a Tunga Viola is a generational channel talent right. Yeah he came out and said if he was the redskins you would be taking to number two. Yeah Wow so the the point is I do think it's once you have an elite quarterback. The chances is that that quarterback will sustain a high level. Play for ten years is greater then your ability to have a top five defense year in year out for ten years sell acquires more people and whatever. So are you going to be filing your research with with the pro football hall of fame. You're not going to be doing that in fact it's very very flawed flaw. I'm sure and let's just not get pricewaterhouse on this thing off. 'cause I mean I think you should at least give the pro football hall of fame a call and say look what I found out so said conclusion is. It's the conclusion is already knew so somebody called this morning and they mentioned some wait a minute somebody call somebody called the show. That's amazing I'll head. So the they said something and they just sort of glossed straight over it and then I I came back to it. I'm going to come back to it with you. They I in getting caught up in. This mahomes You know frenzy. He said don't forget. That in Nineteen eighty-four Dan Marino did things that no one had seen before he threw for forty eight touchdowns which eviscerated serrated the record. He threw for five thousand yards. Nobody was throwing for four thousand yards and we thought that he was the next coming in the same way we think about mahomes and then he went to the Super Bowl and got absolutely destroyed by a really good team all round team but that forty niner defense that year was awesome. A couldn't do anything against it and he sort of Said beep be careful because mahomes is running into a great forty nine or defense. That's pretty good. Don't you think that they're I think they're very. I think the similarities between Marino the way we felt not their styles of play the way we felt about Marino in one thousand nine hundred marine silly things that we hadn't seen before he's he's he's right about that that's a good point and but at the same thing homes even better 'cause mahomes does it with his legs too. It's like ridiculous what he does. Yeah what's your first blush on the Super Bowl. My first blush is is is is The chiefs is mahomes. I I mean I I mean I think that As good as the forty niners defense you know has been I just think that again. I mean the forty niners owners. They could stop the chiefs Five six seven times and like I said they could. They could have a seventeen seventeen nothing lead and be behind twenty four seventeen in a matter of ten minutes. What we've seen with forty one on answered in twenty the eight unanswered in two consecutive weeks against one team? That's very good. Defensively in Tennessee was. I don't think we've ever seen that. I mean the comeback ability eighty. Yeah it's so quick quick strike and plus I do think that chiefs defense while it's not the forty niners defense. They have a pass rush. That could game Garoppolo hard our time I I. I'm not blown away by the chiefs defensively. I thought Tennessee got away from the Derrick. They have have a pass rush. That could give Garoppolo. They do they do i Frank Clark could be a real. They'RE GONNA have problems stopping the run. You know that's GonNa be the best seat. Tennessee did did it. Perfectly in the first half they possess the football they ran the football and scored almost every single time. They had it and they were still down twenty one seventeen at halftime apt. Yeah because of that freak at quarterback yeah So my first flushes is Andy. Reid gets his first Super Bowl Championship. That'd that'd be that would be nice. I think that would be fun. Deceit as become. He's become a sentimental figure of late. I mean did you see him when he dropped the the challenge flag on one play during the game I mean he walks down the field so slowly. Yeah and then he just sorta like rob waiting to hear from somebody upstairs. It was so funny though but people I know people who we know guys like image. Who played for for Andy Reid we just rave about him? What what a great coachie is I mean? You don't hear any ex players of Andy Reid or people who've worked for him in the organization ever ever bad mouth them. Well you know the only thing Andy Reed's been not very good at over. The years is clock management. which any idiot you know sitting on a couch can do pretty much talk show host? Let's say that it's much harder than it looks. Actually it probably is if you're down there on the field having to come up with it but from the couch it's pretty easy. Actually if you can do. Simple addition and subtraction. Now part of the reason I mean I mean if you contrast the coaches. It's Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan. I don't think Shanahan is as unlikable as he used to be used to be pretty unlikable. Well he was unlikable and I talked about this yesterday because of the perception not the reality that he was getting these jobs because of his last name part of the percents part of part of the unlike ability was his arrogance. You're there were people who played for him who worked with them actually. The people that played for 'em loved him well only like only because they thought he was a bit. Aaron they loved players love coaches who can prepare them to to succeed and he's much better communicator than his father. Yes he is okay. What Mike Always said that Mike City is going to be a much better coach than I ever was and part of it? Is You know he was a very good communicator. With his players. Now part still is now the part of the contrast between read and and Kyle Shanahan is I think at least for me I think Kyle Shanahan is going to get more chances to win super bowls. This may be Andy Reid slice chance why we just talked about how great mahomes is. Why isn't this the beginning because dynasty? How long has Andy Reid GonNa Coach Roy Sixty one? Why can't coach for ten more years with Patrick Mahomes as quarterback? I don't see him leaving any anytime soon. You unless you've got some issues you know. He's thinking about Andy Reid. And he's on that list of the greatest coaches hall of fame coach. Andy Reid is a hall of fame coach. You know. Even if he doesn't win I don't think he gets into hall of fame without the Super Bowl I think he does. I don't see how you could put him in and not put Mike and Tom Flory's in both have to sue bill. Coward just got in and I I understand the coward you know has to Super Bowl titles as well no super bowl title Andy. Reed's body of work. It's this is why I think and I made the case with you last week right that if cowers in Mike should be in because my look at look at what we've seen in this post-season it's Mike's fingerprints all over it. In almost every game in this postseason we've seen his zone run scheme. His coaching tree is is continues in cower doesn't have that I think Mike should be input tomboys should be into he has to be skies. Didn't coach in as many playoff off games in make the playoffs as many times Zandi redid with two different teams Andy. Reid is going to coach in his twenty seventh playoff day. Now in the Super Bowl but what is he. Marty I see. So he's on that list of the greatest coaches never to win like Marty Schottenheimer. Georgetown didn't want to the tenant didn't sue. He's in the hall of fame that's because of his influence and because he was a winning coach George Allen in fact I pulled this list up the number one coach of all time not to win a super bowl. According to this list on in Yahoo Sports was bud grant. I mean got to four. Didn't win one. But grant one a lot of frigging games. Minnesota eighteen years six twenty one. Winning percentage percentage for Super Bowl appearance. He did it in short sleeves. Might point out outside right. Did I would have thought that marv Levy would have been second. The list guys had two more super bowls. George Allen's number two on analyst is the greatest coach never to win a superbowl marv Levy coach George Allen Special Sultana coach. You George Helen's overall record tummy. It really is remarkable George Allen Lifetime is one sixteen gene in forty seven as a record just like a son. Bruce accepted opposite. Got Seventy eight percent. Win Percentage over twelve twelve years But he was two and seven in the postseason and the two games he won worthy was the one year advanced to the Super Bowl nineteen seventy-two with the redskins and he lost that super. Yeah but he was. He like Mike. In many ways was an innovator whose he was the developer of the nickel defense he was the first guy to make special teams a priority order and hire a specific guide coach special teams. Yes but wanted to complaints. You heard from redskins players about tour channel conservative and to to to overprepared sometimes in post-season. I mean when they were preparing for the dolphins at some point I forget who it was told me this but they looked at high school films from some of the players on the dolphins. He said like they said it was just too overpaid much and and the more the more the more preparing this the the tighter his team sky yes. That's the thing about super bowl seven that they all say that that he was incredibly tight. The whole we didn't have any fun and that they played tight. Yes in that Super Bowl. You know the redskins favored in that Super Bowl. I'm I believe I'm right about that Yeah and the another key to that suit against undefeated. AFC AFC team which was still seventy two. It's still the AFL NFL ping even though AFL teams of had one. You know I interviewed Jim. Langer the hall of Fame Center for that Dolphins team years ago and he said Dolphins were one point favorites keys to that game was the dolphins using a five man line. Yes the Fernandez over land loss and said he just destroyed him he just absolutely descend Haas was a great centre but Manny Fernandez to save him. He's the guy who should have been the. Mvp of that Super Bowl will remember. Jake Scott Five man defensive front and yet was what George Allen used against John Brockton in the Green Bay packers same year in the divisional round of the playoffs again that the Redskins won Sixteen Sixteen to three at R K stadium and the fifth player was bill. Brundige no no. The fifth. The Fifth Defensive Lineman was was was it I was distraught. Maybe was I think it was. Manny struck These bill Brundige was already a starbuck on that defensive line and I think he put manny strunk in in as the Fifth Defensive Lineman they completely shut down John Breaking news a really good running. I see what you're very good reading. Bates Scott Hunter. Who Was it was not Bart Star that? Yeah it was Scott. Hunter beat him and he couldn't do it the divine with divine was attackers team. Yep so anyway. Oh the rest of this list real quickly. So number three on on the list is Mardi Number in terms of coaches greatest coaches never to win the super bowl so one is bud grant to Georgetown threes. Marty Schottenheimer already is not in the hall of fame. Marty's the whole theme four is Marv Levy Marv Levy is in the hall of fastness I'm right about that. I think he is yes. Yeah Andy Reid is number number five on the list. Don Coryell is six and you could. You could make the coryell in the hall of fame. No He's not he's always the guy coming his his level of influence on offense of foot bright. Is You know. And by the way had among his coaching tree guys John Madden and Joe Gibbs. Yes absolutely and Bill Hannifin and a lot of others the did have nearly the success. Number seven that list is Dan Reeves Reeves went to a lot of super bowls as a coach three different teams. He took the broncos. Two two super bowls took the giants to a super bowl and took the falcons to a super bowl. Yes he did you know Dan Reeves. That's pretty impressive. To three different teams to a super bowl and Mardi took nobody to a super bowl but took how many different teams to the playoffs for three. Different teams didn't take the Redskins to the playoffs. Obviously browns to chiefs the chargers right Chuck Knox is on the list. Now those rams teams that he coached in the seahawks teams none of them made the well. Raymond right now it was. The Coaching Infants Gama quarterback. Tom John Fox is on the list. John Fox took the panthers to a super bowl. took the broncos goes to a super bowl a marvelous Marvin Lewis number ten on the list. Is He really. You know a lot of you know. Seven playoff games with the Cincinnati. Eddie Bengals Franchise Seven playoff seasons. Yeah but Y- that list seems right. I mean I think all that. We are on the list autumn line. I think Andy Reid gets in whether he wins the side you because I think he's taken so many he's had so many playoff teams. It's very rare that Andy Reed's had had a bad season. Coaching and I think the same is true for Marty Schottenheimer as well But Andy Reid I'm GonNa just pull it up real quickly I think I looked this up the other day and he had very like hardly any again. My argument would be as I think Mike Shanahan and Tom Flory's are ahead of him on line. Three total losing three losing seasons in twenty one years as a head coach. That's pretty damn. AM impressive yet is. That's it three. Losing Seasons in twenty one years is a head coach. He's won double digit games in three five. Six seven seven eight nine in fourteen seasons fourteen of his twenty one seasons. He's won ten or more games while it's pretty impressive. I think. Andy Reed's playoff record. Excuse me now what I was looking at before was an update. He's coaching. Twenty eight playoff games. 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PARLAYS TEASERS in game action futures whenever you WANNA bet they've got it available at mybookie dot. Ag Use my Promo Code Kevin DC to activate the offer once again. That's it's Kevin. DC At mybookie DOT AG. I saw you post your Major League Baseball Hall of fame ballot. Yeah usually that every year the I talk. How many people do what you do? They're totally transparent with their hall of fame on. I don't know I mean there's over five hundred voters I think are four hundred some voters so I can't tell you how many any do it a lot more do it now. Then they used to do it And I'm in favor of total transparency. You know but it's the thing that generates more more passion when I posted on social media and really oh absolutely it. It's voting for the hall of fame is the thing that gets the most reaction from people At that they're impressed when here I do it and then the people who are so angry about my ballot when it comes comes out. I mean I've often compared to sitting on the OJ. Jury no no no. It's not the same. You're not you're not in hiding in some hotel sequestered now ovid and post what you're thinking but in what you do creates so much so much anger anger. I'm thinking he's guilty today to my you know what they made some good points today. Dershowitz really impressive today in court. So yeah I post the mind about the results. Come Out Later this afternoon I think that Larry Walker is going to get Derrick jeeter. Obviously the question is does he get one hundred percent unanimous. I don't think you'll get honor percent. I think some people won't vote for him Larry Walker is last year on the ballot. he'll probably get in and it looks like Curt Schilling may get in. I didn't vote for show. No you didn't. But if he gets in that's fine fine okay. I'm a I'm a I'm a will of the electorate guy whatever the electorate votes for. That's fine you know I mean you know I I don't I don't disrespect. Respect other people's ballots Everybody has their own opinion on this however the other side the people who feel the need to be to stand adopt these noble cheaters. You know this this great this great fight that they're fighting for the freedom of cheaters like like Barry Bonds and Roger Clements they get incensed. If you don't vote the way they want they they vote and some of them take their bow and say. I'm going to boycott voting. I mean some some baseball writers. I have said because bonds and clements are not getting the hall of fame. I'm not gonNA vote anymore like a temper. Tantrum is ridiculous. It's really applaud. You're not entitled to your opinion. Yeah dammit nominated here something about that stupid if I like your reaction if they get in they get in. I don't vote for either of them. I don't vote for Manny Ramirez. Why didn't you curt curt schilling well? Because I think he's numbers are borderline. I know he has great postseason numbers but as far as as far as wins. I think he's got what two hundred and Twenty Windsor. There were career Wins I just think he's. He's a borderline figure so if he gets in fine. If you voted for showing I'M NOT GONNA say you're an idiot. You know if the foot foot it really is there are people who want my ballot taken away from me. People have called me racist. Oh you you you put your badge number on there. Well you know it's probably could've tweeted it out and just crop that somebody could try to copy the ballot and and send it in with your badge number and your signature your name. That's okay they can do. They want people would recommend leaving the hall of fame. Recognize my valid. Yeah by the way you see. It's one nineteen I did see but you know I started out. It was like in twenty in ninety three. It was like eight something or you get a different badge number breach year. As as you as the membership yeah gets all as you get closer to Tom Your badge number gets low. I love you. Don't have the same badge ear no so like it'll be a little bit. There will be some people who will retire or get out of the business next year. So if I'm still in it my badge number will be a little bit lower now. We're there so I don't know who the number one is. But there's the guy who's been doing this the longest. Yeah he's gotTa be ninety cents. I guess I don't know but I'm at one. Nineteen when you got a badge number. You're not an honorary voter. That may happen down the road. Well Yeah Yeah wealthy until this way until they that away yes so who cares. What people's reactions are how? But you didn't answer my question. How many people do this? How many P- post their ballard? The I don't know about half of the electorate have revealed there but there is something that says on this ballot If you can you can do you. Wish sh to make your Do you wish to make public your vote. Fourteen days after results are announced. You checked. Yes but you made it public long before to it comes out tonight in two weeks from now. We'll see how many people do we do. We end up knowing how many people elected yes to this question versus no no. We don't know that we don't know that If bonds and clemens don't get in this time which I don't think they are They may get in next year because next year's ballot is really weak. It is there's it's not. It's the first time or next year. I don't even remember but nobody who's going to get in. Yeah nobody WHO's and the people who might be left over. This year are not strong candidates candidates even though I vote for Jeff Ken vote for Omar Vizquel vote for Billy Wagner. They'll be leftovers going on next year's ballot. They're not real strong candidate. It's so the opportunity. Is there next year really for bonds and clements to get in if they don't get in next year the year after is their last year of eligibility. And that's also the first year that a rod is eligible and we'll be on the bow that'll be that's a nuclear battle be exciting yes and David. Ortiz is on that ballot. How many people could did you vote for up to ten and I I'm using liberals odor? Yeah usually you have more voted for five of these five. Did you say this. I may have been looking through your ballot and reading it when you said it but other than jeeter between Kent Vizquel Wagner and Walker. Where do you think you'll be right and wrong? I don't think any of them are going to get it can walk. No I think Walker Walker okay to be really really close. Now he's trendy like seventy four points. Okay so Walker may or may not get in the other guys like I'm way off on can't can't Even though he drove in I think one hundred runs eight times as a second baseman and Wagner's gaining some traction billy wagner agnew's gaining some traction Omar vizquel is the greatest shortstop I ever saw you know and shortstop the a one eleven gold gloves I mean it's it's the position defined by defense even in this day and age to me at least it is so He's gaining momentum but he probably won't get any either like I used to vote for Dave concepcion when he was on the ballot the best shortstop of the seventy part of the big red machine. Oh he didn't he didn't wind up getting in so we'll see so there are a couple of guys who you know. He kooky track of it and then keep track of projecting based on what they think. The non revealed ballots they have jeeter making in of course they have Walker at seven. They think it'll be seventy four point. Five percents Schilling at seventy percent bonds at sixty to cleanse at sixty two amorphous cal fifty four really bonds and clements at sixty two. Yes that's pretty. That's a low. There is such a trump at the end of people who who the people who don't reveal reveal their balance a lot of them are not voting for bronze or Clinton they tend to be the older the older voters who don't use social media who don't put out that way and that's why they have the drop their. Yeah you next. I year Tim. Hudson Mark Burleigh Torii Hunter. Yeah it's not a strong. It's not a strong and then twenty twenty two a Rod Ortiz to share a rollins paypal paypal bonds going to be on the ballot. Well yeah everyone goes on the ballot. Yeah Yeah I mean Paul. Connecticut is on. This year's ballet chevette is on this year's ballot so that at that's the loud Alyssa on order. Stay on the ballot. You have to have five percent of the vote or else you fall off any other thoughts. It's from the weekend with anything that happened in the Astros In the Red Sox and the mets Beltran etc.. We haven't talked about it since Thursday. No no but it's I mean I I read. I read so much on it over the weekend. What what's interesting about this as opposed to steroids is how many players out there are are angry about this? How many opposing players are speaking out about money? But it's the same effect like somebody on cost somebody a job. They weren't good enough to play play. Barry Bonds didn't cost somebody a spot now because somebody something based on the numbers he was playing could've cost an MVP. Yeah I mean me. and which cost people money because this this playoff series yeah impacted the the Yankees in other teams in the postseason but the thing with PD's Adi's was there wasn't there weren't a lot of players speaking out because they may have had teammates. who were doing the same thing? In this case it's isolated it's isolated at least it's fairly isolated. She think a lot of teams do did a lot of stuff. I don't think they did it. Like like the Astros. They had someone inside his uniform. I have no idea and certainly early is weird. That video of him coming home saying don't rip my shirt. I'm not going down that road. I think that these players that are angry about this this the players need to get suspended. But you can't find one thing if they're all I e spend. I don't know how you do it. And then you gotta deal with the players. We need to suspend the whole team. And then you've got grievances you've got arbitration hearings. Boy You know and all that I mean what what what Manfred did was str- hoped that by having such harsh punishments of the people in management it strikes fear in heart of everybody. Yeah that that that's what he's hoping for do you ever read Kevin Seaford stuff off on. ESPN I used to work for the Washington Times. I didn't know that. Yeah he used to cover any orioles. I think he's really good. I taught him everything he no. That's why there you go. He wrote a story that I read over the weekend. That was essentially putting deflate gate in this side by side and it'll be making it. Laughable wasn't even proven proven now you know by the sites in fact probably disproven was by science south yet in the Patriots he was all about getting the patch. All it was and Yeah And so it was an interesting article. If you read it I wanted to say one quick thing before we leave about college hoops tonight. Maryland's gotta it's Maryland northwestern. You know big ten basketball brother. Merrill to seven and a half point favored Aaron. They've this this is a must game for Maryland like you cannot lose to northwestern at home or on the road. It's so hard to win on the on the On the road in this league this year. This is the one opportunity everybody's going to have to go in and win. And they just nearly beat Dylan. Oy and I'm sure if they lose tonight we're going to hear that from turgeon after the game like northwestern Iowa after they crushed Maryland hasn't Lost Ah Cincinnati ranked seventeenth eighteenth. This week Maryland remained at seventeen. The other thing I was just GonNa Mention his poor Virginia man they cannot score. I watched some of that game last night against NC see state. They can't score and they've always been great. Defensively under Tony Bennett. And they usually can't score under Tony Benn but this time they really can't score. They've lost four or five games in in the bracket that Nardi just put out there not in the field. Virginia is not in the field there on the outside looking in in fact the ACC ACC only has five teams in Lunardi latest bracket. The Big Ten has eleven big ten actually twelve of their fourteen in his last run. Minnesota's now one of the first four out of Georgetown still in the field after losing to Marquette but beating Creighton in Georgetown right now as having you know they got a good chance. I'm they'd be in that. You know one of those first. Four Games Maryland was a four seed in the latest Bracket Aaron. So they are headed in the wrong direction Big Game though for the TURPS Senate. I think they'll get it tonight. I think the win that nettle set up a pretty big game for them. Sunday at Indiana Cam I'm getting excited about big ten games took a few years ago. Say It only took you a little. I watch 'em many in those first few years I just kept watching. ACC BASKETBALL ASK. People didn't even turn on the big ten network unless Maryland was playing right. Now I watch the big ten network. They do a great job in that network. I watched it every night and I watch a lot a lot of these games much before I watch. ACC Games last night. There wasn't a big ten game which is why I watched some of the Virginia staking Virginia man they're so there's there's so well coached but it's it's hard to win games no matter who the coaches if you don't have players that can actually put the ball through all right. We're done right. Yep I tip off right Have a great day everybody back tomorrow. I think there's a chance just a chance based on something that's going on with with my other job that I may have to bail on tomorrow show Aaron let you know and let all of you know by twitter either tonight or tomorrow morning running but I have I have a contractual obligation to attend an event tomorrow so I may not be able to do a podcast. I'll be back on Thursday. You'll be back on Thursday a good day everybody.

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Equine Forum - March 28th 2020

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Equine Forum - March 28th 2020

"From the rail to your radio fierce is the Horse Racing Radio Network. Talk Shows Stanley. Welcome to the equine forum presented by Red Brand Fan. Burn bailing on the inside. We'll test these wire. A Berm number out there on the outside driving but Birmingham Alley are apart. A firm got a nose in front as they come onto the wire closing. But it is Rachel. Alexandra Philly won the best now. Here's Mike Pera. Good morning once again. Everyone and welcome to the show. That launched a network the equine forum prevented by Red Brand side here on the horse racing. Radio Networks Mike Baron of the backstretch with you this morning Operating from my home studio well. My producer Lee is in our Lexington Kentucky studios continuing to practice safe social distancing here on the horse racing radio network very happy to have all of you with me for the next couple of hours whether you're tuned in across North America on Sirius to nineteen Xm two. Oh one on our affiliates in Lexington Louisville and across the country or you're listening digitally horse racing radio dot net if the audio sounds goofy here this morning. We're working through a couple of technical issues again. Some challenges working from home with doing this remotely. But Hey that's okay. It's Florida Derby Day by the way so happy Florida Derby Day and want to wish everybody very safe and healthy Florida Derby Day. I know for some people. This is the last thing on their minds for horse racing fans. This is the big deal of the weekend and please stay safe. Please stay healthy with your families out there and and stay home if you can this afternoon. The road to the first Saturday September. I'M GONNA keep saying that with hopes that eventually I'll get used to it by the time we get there. The road to the first Saturday in September winds through South Florida today with the sixty ninth running of the Florida Derby sponsored by Hillen. Dale Stallion Kirwin. And if you're wondering about the countdown to the Kentucky Derby I'll give it to you. One hundred sixty one days ten hours forty seven minutes and seven seconds away from the run for the roses. Which will again be contested Labor Day weekend here in two thousand twenty. At least we hope. That's the plan right now. We hope that will be contested. Labor Day weekend but what a day. It is a Gulfstream today. Fourteen races I post eleven thirty eastern tent stakes. Six of those are graded. You have the mandatory rainbow six payout. One point six million dollar going in today's card and I'm GonNa talk with Billy Baggett. Who is the stronach group director of Florida racing operations? I'll talk to him at eight fifteen. After our first commercial break he'll fill you in on what the program's all about Billy's going to talk about some of the things that Gulfstream has done in light of the coverted nineteen outbreak in order to stay open. And should they be open? There was talk earlier this week. There was an article that came out. Actually that said that Gulfstream. Maybe shouldn't be racing that coming from officials down in Hallandale Beach Florida. I'll get a chance to talk to billy about all of those things coming up at eight fifteen in terms of the Florida Derby itself. It's going to be right. His race number fourteen post time of six thirty six eastern. We're going to have coverage of that by the way this afternoon on the network presented by red brand fence and the F. T. R. coverage myself. I'm Bobby Newman GonNa bring it your way. Five thirty eastern five thirty to seven. It includes the grey to Panamerican and the Grade Three Appleton. You can listen on Sirius. Xm To a one and various affiliates across the country. Of course you can tune in on our website to you can always stream us every time. We're on at horse racing. Radio Dot net a field of twelve going in that Florida derby the altar talented New York bred. Tis The laws once again back in the spotlight as the sixty five morning line favorite. He makes his first start since winning his three year. Old debut with the Holy Bull stakes at Gulfstream. Eight weeks ago you'll hear from trainer Barclay Tag Nine Twenty Eastern this morning. Barkley took time to talk with Bobby. Newman Anthony Stabile on our red brand radio. Show this past week. You'll get a chance to hear from him and his thoughts. Tis The law and the change in schedule. How is this affected what they do at? Tis The law and is it more frustrating for Barclay considering the fact that he has the horse that many people consider to be the favorite for the Kentucky Derby sitting here on March twenty eighth. Is it more frustrating to have the Derby move back but it had to be but is it more frustrating guy like Barkley tagging those connections? So That's nine twenty eastern the main competition for Tis. The law is expected to come likely from two rivals in particular independence hall who tasted defeat for the first time on February. Eighth in the DAVIS STAKES AT TAMPA BAY downs. He's third choice on the morning. Line at nine to two behind at Bay Andy on the Fountain of Youth Winner. Who was going to be written once again by Jockey. Flora drew and I'll get a chance to talk to floor on at eight thirty five eastern. What what a month spent for floor on a couple of months really going back to the risen star stakes when he won that race with Mr then. He takes the Fountain of Youth with at Endymion because back with Bonnie south to win the fairgrounds oaks last weekend and right back with wells value to win the Louisiana Derby. He's on a roll and I'll talk to flora coming up eight thirty five eastern time. Don't miss that interview three time. Florida Derby winner and hall of Famer. Edgar pro is going to be with me at nine o'clock now. Edgar was scheduled to ride Soros in today's Florida Derby but Soros ran yesterday. At Gulfstream. He finished fifth in an allowance race so he will not go to the post which does mean by the way for those of you that are handicapping at home and getting ready for the big carryover and the mandatory payout rogue element the maiden for the barn of Del. Romans drew into the field for the Florida. Derby today he was on he was the only one on the also eligible list. He is now in with the scratch of Soros so edgar prod is going to be with me and Edgar. First of all one of the classiest guys that you're going to find the sport a thoroughbred racing on Wednesday. He moved into a tie with fellow hall of Famer Angel. Cordero Junior for eighth on the all time wins list. He wanted to seven thousand fifty seventh career race at least Anyway Edgar and everyone else for that matter believed he had equalled Cordeiro. But there's plenty more to that story and Edgar will be here to talk to me again. Nine o'clock Bobby Newman. Moving me at nine forty eastern time again Barbie and I will bring you that coverage of the Florida Derby beginning at five thirty eastern and he'll handicap the Derby at some of the big races preceding the Florida Derby today so stay tuned for that segment toward the end of the show at nine forty. He'll also be here with your calling. All three year olds segments presented by spendthrift and we'll have our industry star of the week presented by Stewart. More all that up over the course of very busy two hours here this morning if you go to our HR website. This is kind of a cool thing a little bit separate from what we've been talking about well by the way before I get to that. Let me just mentioned this. One thing very quickly. Because I think it's very important Santa Anita. If you missed it came out yesterday and mentioned that they would have to suspend horseracing temporarily. Don't know what temporarily means. Don't know how long. I don't know if that I would assume it likely puts the Santa Anita Derby next Saturday into question and they did this on the recommendations of the Health Department and California and look. It's a no brainer. They had to do it so for now. Santa Anita has suspended. They're racing operations earlier this week jockey. Vr CASTELLANO posted a tweet and he was talking about the fact that he has indeed tested positive for the corona virus. And here's his tweet. I'm going to read it. Verbatim heavier said after being in New York with family last week I was asked by Gulfstream to come early to Florida to get tested for the virus. I was as symptomatic all along. Unfortunately the test came back last night as positive I otherwise healthy but will follow the doctor's orders to quarantine for the next two weeks. I have had no no contact with anyone that has tested positive. I appreciate the support from everyone including Gulfstream Park. Stay safe everyone and we will all get through this God willing and I texted with heavier and he did say he's doing just fine. He got back to me last night. He's feeling fine. Everything's on track. And he's just hoping to get past this sooner rather than later but we wish heavier and everyone who is suffering with that virus all of the best here this morning from everyone for myself and everyone is part of our. Hr All right. So I mentioned I started to get into this if you go to our website horse racing radio dot net. Now I'll start this way. If you've ever wondered ever wondered who might win a race this these are all Kinda cool things. If you've ever wondered who might win a race that included Secretariat Seattle slew? Spectacular bid affirmed American Farrow and so many other legendary thoroughbreds. Well you're going to get a chance to find out because with no Kentucky Derby this year on the first Saturday in May anyway. We decided that we just couldn't let that day go by without a broadcast here on H. R. N. So on Saturday may second we'll bring you exclusive coverage of the first ever H. R. R. N. Fantasy Derby. It's all going to start at five o'clock eastern and it promises to be. The greatest field ever assembled for any race in the history of the sport. And here's the best part. The coolest thing about this is that you helped determine who makes the field and who wins the fantasy derby and you do that by voting for your all time favorite Kentucky Derby winners all you have to go horse racing radio dot net slash fantasy derby. That's horse racing radio dot net slash fantasy derby to cast your votes today and just email them to me but all the details are listed there on our website so head over there. Check out that page as start voting. Now you have until next this coming Friday to cast your vote and let us know the horses you feel number. One should make the field in number to the horses. In order you feel should win the fantasy derby and it's a star studded field. I mentioned some of those names there. There are several others that are receiving votes Sunday silence and Smarty Jones and Thunder Gulch. There have been some really top notch. Horses obviously to win the Kentucky Derby but we're GONNA put them all against each other a full field of twenty full broadcast first Saturday. May It's the HR fantasy derby so head over there now and check it out all right poll question for this morning. GonNa it simple this morning. Who Wins Today's Florida Derby or we'll put it this way. Who are you taking to win? Today's Florida Derby. Give four choices the three favorites. Tis The law independence hall at Endymion or other. If you choose other please specify let us know who you think. Is a potential upset her in that Florida Derby today? So who are you taking a win? Today's Florida Derby Tis the law independence hall at the end. The end or other and you can do that. 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Trained by billy budget and billy is now in a position where he is doing a lot of things with Florida racing including acting as the director of Florida racing operations for the stronach group. He was set to join us here on this program right now but had to cancel just got notification that he had to cancel is actually heading into an emergency meeting with the city manager. And I told you that. This is a very fluid situation down at Gulfstream Park again. The Florida Derby scheduled. We run this afternoon the last race on a really good fourteen race program but earlier this week it came out that Broward county officials were not necessarily in favor of Gulfstream. Staying Open and the city could handle any kind of enforcement and any kind of penalties against Gulfstream Park. As a matter of fact there is a quote in the article from Ric Barrick who was Broward County's assistant director of public communications and he said that they do not fit into the essential category listening and executive order. They should not be open. Any enforcement would be handled by the city that they are located and he's not talking about specifically Gulfstream but businesses in general with that executive order and Gulfstream is still scheduled to run today so I was hoping to talk to billy about that. Obviously with him going into a meeting now with city manager there is there. There is still ongoing conversations. Even the morning of the Florida Derby but there's look Gulfstream. Really wants to get this card today. Obviously they have the mandatory payout into the Rainbow Six. They have all of the unbelievable stakes races carded and of course that Florida Derby. But I think when you're when you're talking about a global health pandemic some of those things kind of have to take a back seat and that's not going to be a popular sentiment with a lot of our listeners. Who are in the horse business necessarily but I really do. I think you have to take a long look at that and say what are we doing here? Every other major sport has said no no. We can't do look at baseball. Baseball may not come back until July major league. Baseball may not start until July. Maybe I saw something yesterday. Kurt herbstreet from ESPN was on talking about the football season this year college football season the NFL seasons. There's no guarantee they're going to even have the season this year. Let alone start on time. Same thing with the Kentucky Derby September fifth. That's optimistic and I hope it happens. Believe me I do. I love to see us get back to normality but in the grand scheme of things. I mean it's horse racing. It's what we do we love it. It's our business it's our life it's our passion but sometimes there's bigger things to consider and I got a feeling that billy is going to be having that conversation right now with the city manager so anyways with my thanks to billy attempting to be with us here this morning. He was excited to join us. And talk about that Let let's let's talk about the positives that program today is absolutely loaded. Equality has a unbelievable program. Fourteen races. I mentioned all of the stakes. And then what is it ten stakes races and six graded stakes races? In that one point six million dollar carryovers really gonNA take things to another level. I mentioned the Barclay tag has the morning line favorite. Tis The law and maybe the favorite for the Kentucky Derby Right now sixty five morning line favorite but independence hall who is owned in part by Aaron Wellman in his eclipse thoroughbred partners was undefeated going into the Sam F Davis. He finished second. That day wasn't embarrassed. They learned an awful lot about independence hall that day an earlier this week. Aaron took time to catch up with Bobby Newman on our red brain radio. Show and here's what he had to say in that conversation about Independence Hall. We learned a lot about him. Actually a few things went wrong. That were slightly out of our control. I he lost his tongue tie in the warm ups which didn't do them any favors. But a little bit more substantively. He lost his right front shoe coming out of the gate so he basically ran that entire race in the Sam Davis on three shoes with no right front shoe so those are excuses. That don't really matter now but they are some things that obviously everything in our power to control next time but You know I think it's the ultimate what have you done for me lately? Gamely played here. And if you really sit back and Digest two Sam Davis it was a pretty darn good race chased very hot pace on the occasion. Was the only man. Left standing was anywhere close to that pace and still kicked on and he got beat on the square by horse. Who came from way out of it and had a good trip in Soho Lante who came back and ran a very race in the Tampa Bay Derby so they were clear of the third place runner and By all accounts we think it was a very very good race. Obviously when you're three three you've won those races by a combined. Twenty some lanks in your odds on the Sand Davis you WANNA take care of business and it's disappointing not to win but at the same time. We walked away from Tampa feeling as though we might lost that battle. But we're still in a position to win the War Independence Hall for those folks who use speed ratings or maybe sheets. He was faster than basically anybody at that time of year. In fact his his numbers in both the national and the drome still probably faster than any other three year. Old has run this far. So what led to the decision to skip the Tampa Bay Derby and wait for the Florida Derby instead so the partnership group which consists of twin creeks Randy Goulette. Steve Davison as well as varieties. And of course. My trump that at the helm. We all huddled up after the Sam Davis and the Tampa Bay Derby was on our radar but it was still coming back quick and it would have meant that he would have run A bunch of races in a pretty short period of time had we opted for chew other preps prior to the derby including the Tampa Bay. Derby twin creeks folks and eclipse have been down this path before going the temp route with Destin. Who won the Sam Davis and the Tampa Bay Derby and eclipse as well with Capri who won the Tampa Bay Derby and the timing of that race makes it a little difficult to determine whether you should just it out and train up to the Derby or have another prop and Both those colts ended up running. Okay in the Derby ran very well the Belmont but with independence hall. We really wanted to try to make the right move for the Kentucky Derby. Obviously all hell broke loose sins and now the Derby's in September so that Kinda. Mix All our plan but really would oil down to Spacing and the fact that the Florida Derby is a great one on a race track that should play to independence hall strings. His Sire Constitution won the Florida Derby his Dam Sire Capetown Florida Derby and independence hall was fortunate enough to pull off. A victory. Comes Saturday in the Florida? Derby it would be a huge brother and his cap and really enhances potential as a stallion prospect Aaron. Thank you so much for joining us wishing you nothing but the best not only in the Florida Derby this Saturday but going forward with independence Hong. Let's hope that he gets a good trip. That all the equipment works the way it's supposed to this time. And we get to see the real independence hall appreciate it Bobbing New and Everybody out there. Just stay safe and healthy. But if you don't think that the connections of these forces spend countless hours calculating and planning their approach to picking out these races just just listen to what Aaron Wellman had to say about the decision to go to the Florida Derby. He got into the pedigree of Independence Hall. He got into the timing of the race. Of course that was when they thought the Derby was likely going to be run on the first Saturday. At least they were hoping it was and then he got into the track surface a surface that he felt would benefit independence hall and that he would handle and the great of the race being a great one. That's a big deal when you're talking about potentially having a horse that could go onto a be a stallion winning that grade one taking your shot on a race track that you feel he can handle. That's paramount winning grade. One is a huge deal when you start looking at the stallion prospects for these horses. Barclay tag talked about that with his law and again you're going to hear from Barkley coming up later. But one of the things that he talks about is the fact that when he went down this road the triple crown road and he wanted the. Derby preakness with funny CIDE. Funny CIDE was a gelding. They didn't have any of the inquiries that they're getting with his the law as a stallion prospect. That's a whole new game and Barkley admits that this is all different it look Barclay tag has had a believable horses in the past. But this is different. This is a horse. That is the favorite for the Kentucky Derby on March Twenty eighth in most people's opinions and in most future books and he's not a gelding like funny cide so things are different. Barkley in that team again. Barclays interview comes up at nine twenty eastern coming up in the next segment. You're gonNA hear from jockey floor on Giroux who is an ego her right at the end day on in the Fountain of Youth. Coming up later Well the Fountain of Youth Winner in the Florida Derby later today and then three time Florida Derby winner and hall of Famer Edgar Product will be with me at nine o'clock eastern to talk about allegedly allegedly tying the Great Angel Cordero for eighth on the all time wins list this past Wednesday and I say allegedly because there's much more to that story and looking forward to talking with Edgar coming up here at nine o'clock you know they. They Call Edgar Produ- The attorney his fellow jockeys calm the attorney because he is always so dapper when he shows up at the jocks room and then he'll put on his glasses and he looks so studio when he does it and quite often. They'll call the attorney because he kind of looks like an attorney way shows up to work and if for some reason a jockey needs to go watch movies with the stewards as they call it for an infraction. Eggers often there to support the young riders. He may need to talk to an attorney about this situation. coming up with his Equaling of Angel Cordero Junior. I'm looking to that visit nine o'clock and then of course we'll handicap all the big races at nine forty eastern time with Bobby Newman. Our coverage of the Florida Derby five thirty eastern presented by red brand fence and the F. T. B. O. Five thirty seven you can listen serious to nineteen Xm affiliates across the country and you can stream is worldwide at horse racing radio dot net are going to get now to our lexus legends of the TURF. It's brought to you every Saturday at this time by the Lexus store of Lexington. When I come back Florante Juru is in the saddle. This is your lexus legends of the d'oeuvres on October. Twenty seven thousand nine hundred seventy four at and suburban Toronto Canada thirty seventh running of the Canadian International Championship stakes over the testing distance of thirteen prolongs was the feature race on the card. 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By six or seven they pass the Sixteen Bonnie south up to take the lead four. Own Gerardo twinspires.com fair grounds oaks. That's Bonnie South Bounce home by two and a half well value who still finding mates by three New York traffic bonuses a one piece third major fed enforceable take store the inside but it's wells wells by you in New York traffic wells by you to win. That's friends fires dot com but we had a derby welcome to the forum presented by Red Brand Fence right here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Mike Pana Baron of the backstretch operating remotely practising safe social distancing here this morning coming to you from my home studio our producer Lee de la Pena's in our Lexington Kentucky Studios Doing his best to make me sound good this morning and I would say doing one. Heck of job His any jockey Ben Hotter over the course of the past couple of months. Jackie Flora drew. I don't know he's winning every big race that we have in the sport today and you heard that little montage started with Mr Monti. Moyen the risen star at any on came back and won the Fountain of Youth. Bonnie south took the fairgrounds oaks and wells by the Louisiana Derby in back to back fashion at fairgrounds last Saturday. And I had the privilege of welcoming to the program Flora. Good morning my friend. Thanks for taking some time. Hey what what's the secret to this Hot Streak that you're on eating goodall. Come on. It's a pretty good. You gotTa have some kind of chemistry though. Don't you little bit but nothing? Just what kind of opposition or people are offering you to be honest. You know he'll come over for some of the people maybe sometimes can make a decision. Who are the winning one but making quit team? And I don't have any pressure from him he just gave me free rein pretty much time to good use the also some nice. He's like Patrick. And some of the guys I mean symptoms just Emmy Free Range. I think it's a big Chris as a drug to do what you don't think too much just to let you do your thing. Yeah let's start with you mentioned Patrick being cone and at Tj any ongoing to the post later today in the Florida Derby. So let's start there and then we'll talk about what happened last weekend at the fairgrounds which was a special day for you but at a Horse that you won the Fountain of Youth. On last time you were aboard for the very first time in that race. I I'll share your thoughts on that performance. I was been pushing. I thought he had a good chance not to win that they and I think he you involved in taking him to You know we've defined logging. Oh you know you do a wreck on the competition. I know that day was During the fall filed siding was able to cook very easy and You know he was like you couldn't even with Freeman. Did you know that you were going beyond the lead with him? That day just happened not just happening. What was different here calling? Hold but after you know. I'M NOT GONNA try to make the just to make the region and the hostile you're at the end. You know just how it on the radio so my my campaign was trying to push forward and get some kind of position and when they end up on the lead in order to get teachers in that race you broke kind of from the outside going a mile on the sixteenth postition tents. You're outside that day. You're outside again today. With Andy on mile and an eighth at Gulfstream. We always hear that. That can be a challenge. How come yeah because you know? It's a very big People White towns you know what not snow much stretch so the towns you know are a little bit longer than most restaurants. Compared to the second one is very long straight and Short term Job. She don't the Symptom Kuno Titans. That's one coming into the town or client to get you know secure knowing nicer sporty inside because you can get throat it widens so when you go into the starting gate today and you're out there on the outside again with this horse Obviously the break is always important. No matter what position you have but without giving away your whole strategy flow what's the mindset as you walk into the gate something You know Y- tied again. There's or truly today so it's GonNa reduce the defense a maybe closer than you know. Number two hundred eighty dollars sauce crutches. You today and I believe closer but I haven't extra secure bike walk. We story also last time. It was a my after me. Do the eleven or the mice you understand me as the twelve but you know now is the eight and eight. So some seminal set of mine you know just break shop and I said you know if you make the read fine you cannot just took a position but defense you get the game going to discern mindful. I mentioned that last time in the Fountain of Youth was the first time you were aboard day on. What did you learn in that race flow that maybe even helps you when you go to the post with him later today Reason pension money three or four times a lady Visa they could haul to go knows a great move it to Y- pre you know like with which to be gracious on. It can put forward out of Kabul by the way it's a big plus because some of those two learning you know three They beat you know immature. Sometimes something between all season they can get you know. Leave it scale and sometime or the team's not necessarily the joke wants stoop. But he knows. I don't need to worry about withholding professionals like talking with jockey floor on drew here on the Horse Racing Radio Network. Use One one thousand five hundred sixty six races in his career and it seems like he's winning every big race with every good horse that he sits on these days. Let's go back to last weekend at the fairgrounds flow. You take both the grade to fairgrounds oaks and the Louisiana Derby you fairgrounds oaks aboard Bonnie South and they come back with wells by you in that Louisiana Derby. Just tell me about those two victories and those two horses. How good were those performances There are very good both of them. Were very proud of the houses and honestly both of course you know we like them. Walking Great Bunny sows sows. Maybe more surprise. You know for things like Outside of people or racing fans no better viewers but we will not that That surprise you know we saw steam team if you was working rate Last time she was about to be a city name or suggest the devil who came back and wanted only be. I don't raise at the bottom. So you a line on the L. spearing on some of the stuff new using your Increase US know. You know there was no video of a finite which we respite. You know very much but you know what sometimes you all run a operational but well hoping ore to win but more looking for second and trying to get some Some type with you but it worked good at the end. She was to extend Australian of the rest of the mind though she'd roof. You're pretty good performance. Then you come back with wells by you. The son of looking at lucky who wins for the second time here in two thousand twenty. Tell me about that when he was a little bit easier in game plan and And they're going to raise your children. We'll talk together in the collection It wasn't always on early. Broaden myself on agreed our run in this was a nine through sixteen instead of running mobile just because you know based wise was also known as Dr who crew speed agree. Seven eight who takes all in California was also Muslim no payroll a lot of speed also was earth. We ought to be who can speed your and you know. Sometimes you get hooked and you don't know if you really belong in this kind of racist or just the Patriots kill you so we just Wanting to look like it wasn't much Patient going into the race and not much what you want to relearn unusual vagrant person from there or something and there is a shot. Hold Snow from the gate. The plan was like tube on the lead. And if somebody really wanted us Myself you know. Follow the signal to Jackie Flores through here on H. R. R. N. Flow there have been some writers including I rod Ortiz Junior and Rajiv who stepped away and then came back and I Raad has chosen not to ride because of the concerns with the corona virus. But how about for you? You decided to keep going. Did you ever consider saying? Hey you know what I need to take a break for a little bit. Yeah honestly and they're kind of things you think about all the time You know management and not everybody raising. We're all best not to stay. You know their Web. The situation with the corner virus when laws. No mask and all kinds of stuff and try to keep the social distancing stuff. It's hard commitment especially at the phone was the biggest weekend who of my season over. There are some holes is ready to go and I just feel a bit. Unfair for the connection to stay away and This weekend I haven't. Who's a commitment you know Eighteen and also be tidier. No but afterwards you know my take time off. I can't think you're scary there but not just will not through war. Yeah we've heard a lot about different racetracks and acting different protocols with the jocks room trying to make it a a safer environment and comply with what the Centers for disease control has recommended for everybody around the world. What's it take me inside the jocks room at Gulfstream? Now what have they done and what was done at fairgrounds to to make this a safer environment which is not as much as we can. We're all together in the same room and we're all spread out because you know we have facility for also with me to stay no somewhere in the dark and and you know because we know we're eating out of the ratio so with and we need to get all the way up in the six floor But no everybody's spread out to them. I'm a kind of Neil. The southern area wide open. Everybody looks like camping over there. But what walks? Are you comfortable with the way that things are being done? Right now. For Jackie's yeah? I'm comfortable but I said no government People you know higher than than the restaurants are making making into more difficult for everybody and I just feel tired. I mean It doesn't matter how much own to run. You know. We have to keep their job. We in the very tight Sometimes you have a twitter poll street you keep you from dissenting you to your twitter group leading the horses You're GONNA you know divided. You know something all things. It's twenty four twenty four people of Color Grooms and hot working on stuff is Teri people already together. You know and and it's the were just keeping it. You know the the minimum. It's not like I'm just. I'm not even counting the trails and I see some of these well most of the no. No yeah you know. I mentioned earlier in the program that have air sent out a tweet saying that he had tested positive for corona virus us now in self-isolation for the next two weeks he feels fine. I texted with him last night. He said he's doing just fine and just hoping to get this behind him. He was a symptomatic all along. What what's the reaction from fellow jockeys when they hear about a guy like Havi or Castellano testing positive? Well no but for him just keeping already. We hope feeding and of course she was worried about you know you know. He's because he's been with them knowing especially among wish the one who's living in south Florida when she older so they're supposed to coach. You know his mother wife and kids notice. What's those companies line you know or the people to get sick but on the other to turn to include Like I said you know he wasn't talking stuff like that. Keep US sitting symptom. That's like I said no very continuous. And you know just even him. I'm sure he was aware of the vision to to get the virus. Just call it. Yeah we'll flow listen These are crazy times and unprecedented times. Get through today safely and then continued to say safe and healthy. My friend and I can't thank you enough for taking some time here this morning. What good new one. Good bit of news. My friend You still have one hundred sixty one day so the Kentucky Derby now so you got plenty of time to decide on which horse you're GonNa read executive some of my more comfortable. Maybe you know what Off for your rookie canceling. I guess. Yeah might be your mouth for the Breeders Cup. Classic too so thinking ahead couple of races appreciate it flow. Stay safe my friend and safe trip out there. Okay thank you Flora Chiro here on the Horse Racing Radio Network You know I mean we can go online about what's happening here in the world and what's happening at Gulfstream Park around the country with tracks are still continuing to run in the jocks rooms and all of the different things flow did nice job of laying out the situation. Yeah he feels safe and yes. They're separated but he also went on said but there's a whole bunch of people involved here that are that are all involved interacting in some form or fashion some way and you talk about hobby or Castellano yet his family. He was home in New York with his family. A symptomatic but as we know that can you can still spread the virus. Even if you're a symptomatic but he was there with his family and he said his mom was living with them down in Florida. You know. I always concerns there. 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Finishing third was no save day in one eleven and one Cordeiro tied Edgar P l the call that was a claiming race at Gulf team this past Wednesday race number three Corey Gal under Jockey Edgar pro and you heard Pizza Equaling Angel. Narrow junior seven thousand fifty seven career victories. That was short-lived and you're going to hear more about that story coming up in just a few moments. Of course Edgar came back the next day Thursday and WanNa race at Gulfstream so he is officially tied now but If you go by what. We were thinking on Wednesday. Everyone would corey Gal. He would technically be one ahead of Angel. Cordero junior but not the case tied. And that's story coming your way in just a few minutes. You're going to be with me. Nine o'clock eastern time here on the network Barkley tag took the time to visit with. Bob Newman on radio this week. His interview talking about Tis. The law comes up at nine twenty. And then we'll wrap it up with bobby joining me to handicap the big races at Gulfstream at nine forty eastern time. This morning I told you at the top of the show that if you ever wondered who would win a race that included the likes of at Seattle slew spectacular bid affirmed American Pharaoh. You name it so many other Great Kentucky Derby winners that we've seen over the years well you're going to have that opportunity to find out on. Saturday may second because we thought. Hey there's no derby but we need to do a broadcast that day here on the network we always broadcast the Kentucky Derby. So we're going to put together a full broadcast of the HR N. fantasy derby first one ever five eastern. Saturday may second. We're going to put together a field of the greatest Kentucky Derby winners of all time which will be determined by your votes and the votes of those in the industry. All you have to do is go to our website horse racing radio dot net slash fantasy. Derby that's horse racing radio dot net slash fantasy derby to cast your vote for your favorite Kentucky. Derby winners do that. Now and help us determine the field and it's pretty simple you just email your selections right to me. Mike horse racing radio DOT net. But you have to go to our website to do it because there's a list of Derby winners to choose from and there's a spot for you to give a write in vote. If your favorite Derby winner is not among those horses that we selected to be part of the field it will be a full twenty Horsfield and it's going to pit all the greatest derby winners against each other should be fun the HRIS fantasy derby that broadcast what was going to be Derby Day. The first Saturday in May on May second I got to get to the second half of the program kicks off with Jockey Edgar Prado. That's next right after we pause ten seconds for station identification. This is the horse racing radio network from the rail to your radio. This is the horse racing radio network. Victory Gallop is third. But he's coming real worry victory by talking two hundred twenty running up the Kentucky Derby. This is odd again. Look team possible. Welcome to the equine forum presented by Red Brand Fence. Thirty seven. Wait is over good now. Here's Mike Welcome back hour number two the equine form rolling on this twenty eight th day of March twenty twenty case. You're wondering that means we are now just one hundred sixty one days nine hours forty seven minutes and twenty seconds away from the run for the roses Saturday. September fit the first Saturday in September. This year still trying to get used to that the first Saturday in September. The run for the Roses. We will be there. Is Your official radio home of the Kentucky Derby and the Triple Crown here in twenty twenty and partnership with NBC Sports and Westwood One So happy to still be of that coverage for you and looking forward to bring it your way if indeed we do run it on September fifth will be there and I told you at the end of that first. Half of the program that We are anticipating a big field for the HR and Fantasy Derby on Saturday may fifth and you can vote is to who you think should be part of that field. No doubt big red starting to get a lot of play and he's going to be one of them is he the greatest of all time. It's all determined by your votes ago there right now. Horse racing radio dot net slash fantasy Derby The Hall of Famer. Who is a three time? Florida? Derby winner is Going to join me here in just a moment. As a matter of fact we have him on the line now so we won't make them wait. What did the classiest guys that you're GonNa find the sport of thoroughbred racing and now tied with Fellow Hall of Famer Angel Cordero Junior four eighth on the all time wins list among Jockeys Edgar? Good morning my friend. Edgar Good Morning. Can you hear me? Yes good morning all you good good good good. Thanks for taking some time here this morning but look at it was funny. I reached out to you after you won that race on Wednesday at Gulfstream and I said Hey congrats on the milestone. Would you be willing to join me on the show this week to talk about it and you sent back a tweet or a copy of a tweet that said hey yeah it looked? I want it. But then echo base found something in their records it said No. I'm still one behind angel so so tell me about that. I was actually surprised. You See Somebody down Find Out in the Senate who my in Greenwich Information from not very good. Yeah it actually moved you back to seven thousand fifty six so officially one behind and it was. It was weird when you. Here's what I'm going to read the One Holidays last week. I'm sorry starting Thursday. Yeah so now. You're you're officially tied. But it was funny because you're tied. They took it away from Ya. And now you're tying again which is wonderful. Yeah what what's that mean? Edgar to equal a guy like angel. Cordero eighth all time before an owner to talion Alleging Cordeiro. He's done with so many He's been a great For this for many years Highly him know and Berry Berry. Good on the Egger. You kind got off to a fast start when you burst onto the scene and you're winning races left and right and and you knew the Edgar product could really ride and then here you are in this position today but did you ever imagine that you'd be sitting here in two thousand twenty eighth all time and number of wins an all you have to really speak to achieve something. Big Some Always wanted complete something better than in the day before so I was looking down either. Um Winning Doro your applauding. I trying to accomplish something you know. I I if coming my five hundred winner benefit lens out in the two thousand twenty four and when the moment last seven thousand he's continued to work Harry in King. He's writing and winning. When I reached every thought into well why not keep you know translates cordell and from important now east keeps moving hopefully At all or live with the kernel we come normally originally. Yeah you're now fifty two years old edgar one of the senior members of the jockey colony. What still motivates Edgar Prada on water that describing the feeling winning Being a horse in you horse anybody any anybody again you the truth to win the competition. Not a moment. You knew direction. I it's not working out and then you have to do it. You know how grain is I've been for many years and I feel like in Hudson treated when I wrote my first grade. Yeah you know so. Many great athletes yourself included Edgar in every sport. They hate to lose they. Have this will to win. That oftentimes even overcomes any kind of a talent deficiency. You have talent and you have the will to win is your is your will to win still as strong today as it's ever been. I think if you went to win is graded the within ski. Continue to work harder and tried to be professional. And don't sleeping you Laura. I mean whatever you do get the visit done in twenty. I can't something better than tomorrow. Do you find Edgar that there are times in certain races. That all of that experience that you've garnered over the years actually helps you to win a race. Is there something to be said for that young? Definitely you know. I'm sometimes I'm I'm breaking slow and steady rush the horses to save some ground See how develop in front of me trying to take some ground consummate. The right move. I don't know how you trying to Don't make another state them already copying because we are already slow so I mean that's because experienced environment for so many years and put them in practice when when you're writing in so many other things you know how tried to relax. The whole house is trying to say ground And how you fit into hoes and the Post parade you know if I water them up on nineteen quite so all those you learn with experience riding on. Can you put them in practicing? Hopefully you make the right decision when you when you write. How much longer are we gonNA see Edgar Proto in the saddle when when we don't know yet because I stopped writing Friday in today and tomorrow on from Get better outside Just WanNa stay with my family and hopefully this thing goes away soon then made on and you see me again. Attracted to I'm feeling great. I mean I'm I'm trying to stay healthy and try to stay in good shape and ready for the poor -TUNITIES COMES. I the longest one Hollywood turns to ride horses and thinking. Winning are around probably belong. Well you're eight wins behind Perry boots. Who's next on the list at number seven so there's something to keep in mind if you're looking for a little extra motivation but doesn't sound like you need not definitely no we're going after human hopefully Momentum going in and we go from there talking with Hall of Famer Edgar Pro here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Edgar when you think back on all those wins. What are some of the moments that immediately? Come to mind for you moments in your career that you're just never gonNA forget. Definitely my first win and Baru in I was riding I was looking for my third wing and it is insatiable and get a feeling how he feels win. He's saying when I win a race in the war and I was so excited I was so happy you know in their winnings people coming in common and the United States and definitely my favorite when you say was great too because I was looking for new beginning and New Place I started side is hoppy them on my first win in the United States and more than keep coming up you know I was very happy and in subways them got these beautiful gifts right horses by when when the Kentucky Derby was undescribable. I mean it wasn't a war. Don't say how glad hobby and it wasn't accomplished and then even without win for my family. My friends the people behind through in the washing one in the race. He's as good as it gets. He's hall of Famer. Edgar Prado here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Edgar. Listen the stay safe. Stay healthy and as always you're always A Class Act and always very gracious with your time so I appreciate it my friend. And congratulations on that milestone. Let's go get up the number seven next. Let's all right here on H. R. N. He is our industry star of the week this week. Who better to be our industry star the week then hall of Famer Edgar Prado? This segment brought to you by Stuart Morris who offers Boutique full-service bloodstock Operation Stewart wants to thank his owner says clients and his entire team. His success is because of you and with multiple stakes horses over the past three years including the likes of Henley's joy our brain trust and Malagasy. Stewart. Morris is your source for success at the highest levels. All you have to do is visit the Stewart Morris consignment at all the major sales coming up this summer and fall boy edgar products. And when I say that I mean I I talked about a few people like that that they are all class and there are a lot of people in the sport that are like that Edgar Prado was right at the top of the list. And the cool thing to me is here. He is fifty two years old and he talks about the desire that he still has to win a race when I asked him what motivates. What still motivates I group radio and hear him say that thrill of winning. That feeling you get when you win a horse race. And I've asked that same question to fellow hall of Famer John Velazquez in the past and it stands out to me. Because Johnny gives you the same answer. That feeling of being on the back of these majestic thoroughbreds winning a race. It's like a drug I can remember. I asked Johnny question after he was injured in the breeders. Cup by I WANNA say it was his spleen. I could be wrong but I wanna say it was a spleen and he was out for awhile. Nsf Johnny Listen. You have a beautiful wife unbelievable family. Surely you've been responsible with your money. And he has a why. Why keep doing this? Why keep coming back and putting yourself at risk and when you ask that question of a guy like John Velazquez and any of these top jockeys they will tell you. It's like a drug the feeling you get from winning a race and I can tell you just on the ownership side of things owning pieces of a few horses and I've been fortunate that all but one has gotten to the winner's circle. There is no feeling like it even standing on the sidelines. So I can't imagine being a board that horse at what that must feel like but according to every Jackie and you just heard Agar say it. The that's what drives them. That's what motivates them and Edgar Again. A three-time Florida Derby winner won't get the chance to compete in that race today because his mount with scratch. If you missed that in the first half of the program he was supposed to BE ABOARD SOROS FOR GUSTAVO. Soros ran yesterday. He finished fifth in allowance. Races at Gulfstream Edgar wasn't aboard him yesterday That means that rogue element draws into the Florida Derby field. Who's the only also eligible trained by Dow Romans owned by Kelly? Matiz Samedan over three. 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Tis The law set sail under many Franko and move to a three lake laid at Indiana's pack the second well clear of Toledo turf in third with an eighth of a mile left to go to law. Shifting GROUND. Touched down toward the interrail. But he's in front at Indian his game but he's only second best to suck togas staples law your Holy Bull. Winter second is to India. They were a mile clear. Toledo restless dancer may vary. Deputy uncorked. Sabado an clear destination. What's again. Pd bringing them home? That was in the holy bull stakes. Gulfstream Tis the law. A powerful victory in his three year old debut will see him in as the morning line favorite in today's Florida Derby Again if you're just joining me coverage of the Florida Derby comes your way here on the horse racing radio network beginning at five thirty eastern. It's all presented by red brand fence and the F. T. O. A. Myself and Bobby Newman. We'll be live five thirty to seven o'clock I'll be remotely but we'll bring you that coverage here so you don't have to miss any of the action that broadcast also includes the grade to Pan American and the Grade Three appleton which are the two racist preceding the Florida Derby today. And of course we'll take you all the way through Gulfstream's signature prep race The poll question today in so many of you taking the time to vote appreciate that at HR in on twitter. Who are you taking in today's Florida? Derby pretty simple and we gave you a few choices. Tis Law the favourite independence hall at Tay Endymion and other and if you choose other please specify well so far. Tis The law. No surprise here running away with forty six percent of the vote coming in for. Tis The law. Some of the write in votes Gouverneur Morris that's an interesting horse gouverneur Morris getting a write in vote from From Chris and then somebody here say well not betting it but his law GONNA lose to five so pigging against them but no definitive. Pick their but GOUVERNEUR Morris the one horse that maybe outside of those top three you have to take a look at and he has Florida Derby winning connections by the way his trainer. Todd pletcher the all time leading trainer in the history of the Florida Derby five times. That's unmatched his first was in two thousand seven. Can You name the Horse? Quick now maybe you got SCAT daddy in two thousand seven under hall of Famer. Kurt Proto who you just heard from. Just a few moments ago. He came back in two thousand fourteen when it constitution who by the way extremely well represented with his horses today Then he wanted the next year two thousand fifteen materiality came back with the Derby winner always dreaming in two thousand seventeen and then audible in two thousand eighteen so todd looking to add to that record later today but no doubt about it. Tis The law is going to go post road as the favourite and earlier this week. His trainer Barclay tag took time to visit with. Bobby Newman on red brand radio. And here's what he had to say about his law Barclay. This is a horse whose accomplished so much thus far. Tis The law. He's three for four in his career. He won the grade one champagne at Belmont last year. He was third after some trouble in the grade. Three Kentucky or rather than the grape to Kentucky Jockey club over a sloppy track at Churchill took a little time off came back looks better than ever won the holy bull impressively share your thoughts on his win in the Holy Bull. He won that race by some three lengths. Well he just seems to take everything in stride and do everything easily and you know thought he could probably win it and he did. He's he's pretty nice he just It seems to be nonplussed about most things. Nothing you know. He does laying bother him. Just because you're out there and does his job unfortunately the loss that Kentucky race because it was a horrible horrible Jack and he got squeezed pretty good. There didn't come out of the gate. Will YOU KINDA slip coming out of the day or something? I couldn't really tell but you can't even go perfect all the time. When he won the Holy Bull. It was roughly two months ago the first of February. He's been in the news since then. He had a little bit of a hoof issue or a leg issue. Tell us what happened. And what's been going on in the eight weeks since that? Holy Bull Victory really pulled his shoe one time during her door to Gallup whether it was during the galloper after the Cowper hacking home or hacking out there when it was but anyway it It kinda got a boost. He'll out of it and and You know we just had to back off. Line we We kept trying where they didn't want to get into much time off or anything like that but we had to just keep going back and forth where we lost little time. He's he's all better now. He's in good shape so we're pretty happy with many people around the country. Horseface racing fans around the world consider. Tis The law to either be favourite or one of the favorites at this point for the Kentucky Derby but we know the Kentucky. Derby is not the first Saturday in May anymore. It's now the first Saturday in September Labor Labor Day. Weekend is it. A difference is more frustrating to see. The Derby moved to September when you have a horse like this that many people think is actually the favorite at this point. Well when you only get one every twenty years on other things to go wrong but that's life and I wouldn't trade him with anybody so we'll just have to see how he does the hardest thing to fit him into the racist as they put them on I'd like to. I'd like to make setup myself and had the ball go to it but it's not gonNA work that way. I'm sure so You know they're going to be more mature horses in the Kentucky Derby this time then there are any other time and this source has matured. Early and I thought it'd be a really good good shot in the Kentucky Derby but you never know now. It's just a lot of a lot of things can go by now. We will see this horse owned by Sachs Toga stable. Of course same owner and trainer connections as funny side who both won the Kentucky Derby and the preakness back in two thousand three the road to the Derby and whenever the preakness could be this year is obviously different Barclay with the change in dates. How does it change your strategy? What will you do differently now? If he happens to run a good race on Saturday well I don't know what to do. We'd probably If things just stay like they are we'd probably have to go out to to Oakland but if they got around to it and change it all around and put the preakness and the Belmont stakes back in order. Somehow I'd have to really consider going that way. We just have to see how how it works out. Anyway since you and the ownership group of Saka togas stable of already. Been Down this road. What are the biggest differences now compared to two thousand three back? Then when you were training funny side for Saka Toga stable. He was not getting quite the hype. As some of the other ones around the country I think empire maker was all rage back then now tis. The law is if not the favorite certainly one of the favorites and the more well-known three-year-olds coming in and if he runs well on Saturday or wins the race on Saturday Hill. Stamp himself right at the top of the list. What are the differences now with a a very very strong three year old looking at the triple crown races? Hopefully down the line as opposed to back in two thousand three a funny side. Yeah had three easy wins. In the fall they were in New York bred maiden race in two two little steaks and they were very nice but it was nice to and it was nice to win them and it was great for him but then he lost his three preparations for the Derby and I thought he ran well in the second to the first one. You know had a lot of problems in that but We we still are pretty high on him. And and that's what. He ran a great race in the wood memorial and he was just beating a little bit but that race he didn't he. He always had a habit of taking a little bit of a breather. And it didn't take as much of a breather in that race came back. Pretty strong was only beaten half a length so I was still hiked on him and Fortunately they ran a great race Kentucky Derby in one night and they came back and win the preakness decisively. So you know we. We like it from the very beginning. And we're disappointed that he lost his three preps but You know they're excusable their other. Good horses in there wasn't like he was really good horse in the He did come back and get the job done the derby preakness so we were. We were pretty happy with him and he was a very high strung horse. A little different than this horse. Choice is a little bit temperamental. But he's not as high strung and nervous. It's funny CIDE was so that makes it a little bit easier to handle and we're very happy with the wave coming along. Is there any difference in what your plans are or what the owners plans are going down this line with a Colt as opposed to a gelding? Of course funny cide famously won the Derby as a gelding whereas his the law is a full Colt. Any difference or when you're thinking of plans down the line. Well there's a lot of difference. 'cause it's a lot of money on the line for it was not much money on the line for a guilty so it's been very interesting with the offers and things like that. I don't want to win all that but It's it's it's a different different game but I think He can handle it all. He's he just seems like an amazing horse debate. It's just nothing seems to really bothering or getting his way and he does it so pretty happy. Heavy I don't think I don't think anybody could blame me for that once again. Partly tag joining us. Thank you so much for being with us on. Hris we wish you the best of luck. Tis The law. The morning line favorite in a full field of twelve saturdays grade. One three quarter million dollar curling Florida Derby goes race fourteen Barclay. Best of luck on Saturday and in the future with Tis the law. Thank you thank you very much. Yeah interesting stuff from Berkeley Tag. My thanks Barkley for joining Bobby. This past week on on our red brain radio show which by the way you listen to that show with bobby and Anthony every single Wednesday Thursday and Friday afternoon from three to six eastern time just head over to our website horse racing radio dot net and check out the schedule for all of our talk shows. We're GONNA continue as much as we possibly can to bring you. All of our talk shows as scheduled throughout the week as much of my race coverage as we can as long as they're running the big stakes races Will do that for you. Each and every week here on the network and again Florida Derby coverage comes up five thirty eastern time the afternoon serious to nineteen Xm to a one worldwide horse racing radio dot net and on our affiliates and Lexington Louisville and across the country. Tis The law emmy. Look this is a horse that you heard. Barkley say he feels like he has matured. Maybe even quicker than most of the other three year olds. That's why he's on top of the list. Obviously but he has matured beautifully to this point and Bobby asked him. If it's more frustrating for him to have the Kentucky Derby moved this year sitting here with the favourite Barkley was very Kennedy said. Yeah he said you can't do anything about it. Obviously but it is frustrating. Because you have a horse like this who you you start you pick them out as a yearling. Start breaking him you start getting into. All of the training is a two year old. You start to realize this forces special you watch him grow. You Watch immature physically and mentally you. Get up to this point where he is the top-ranked force sitting here on March twenty eighth. And that's all well and good with the Kentucky. Derby being on May second now is Barkley alluded to the whole picture changes with the September Fifth Kentucky Derby because all of the other three roles that are currently behind. Tis The law in terms of the development. Now have time to catch up all summer long so Tis the law even though he may still be the top ranked horse if we get to the Derby on fifth and he may still continue to get better but now all of those other three year old so their further behind even horses that are running in maiden races right now three year old maiden races that typically wouldn't even be in the Derby picture all of a sudden they are. And that's another interesting wrinkle to the whole Derby picture. Now you have to start watching these maiden races. It's a lot like backing the clock up to their two year old campaigns. That's where we are right now at least in terms of a timeline. So you have to watch those maiden races and you see some of those horses that burst onto the scene winning a maiden race and again if the Derby's May second they don't even they're not even a consideration make the field now all of a sudden they are and they could be one of the horses to beat on the first Saturday in September. We'll see if Tis the lock and continue to take the next steps along that road to Louisville later today in the Florida Derby and again we'll have coverage for you five thirty eastern here on the horse racing radio network getting into another break when I come back. It is your calling. All three year olds segment for this Saturday morning presented by spendthrift into visit with Bobby as he looks at all the big races coming up at Gulfstream later today. This is the forum on H. R. 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Nbc Mr Larry Combs with the call of the two thousand fourteen Florida Derby Constitution with a big victory that day for trainer. Todd pletcher one of his five victories in the race. That is a record. I told you that earlier. Todd sends out Gouverneur Morris in this afternoon's Florida. Derby he has a couple of horses. Actually Gouverneur Morris a son of his Florida Derby winner Constitution Constitution stands at Winstar and he has also represented by independent tall and favourite. Tis The law. Yeah he's done pretty well to start his stallion career Wondering by the way if Gouverneur Morris Independence Hall in Tis the law will all be among the top five in Bobby Newman's edition of calling all three roles which is presented by step spendthrift. Let's find out and they're all spendthrift farm presents calling all three year olds with. Bobby Newman fairgrounds. In New Orleans held their signature race last weekend. The great to one million dollars Louisiana Derby. This year's renewal was held a new distance of a mile and three sixteenths. It was a full field of fourteen and on paper. It seemed as though wells by New York. Traffic and modernised might all show speed possibly setting things up for any of the talented closers. But that's not how it played out. Well spy who was sent off. The slight favourite made the lead easily interflora. Njeru setting a very moderate pace. New York. Traffic was content to sit justin behind the leader while modernise track from fourth early. Lan when they reach the top of the stretch all three had plenty of closing kick but it was wells by kicking best and going onto the wire-to-wire score New York. Traffic ran a game race to be second with modernist getting up for third. They earned one hundred forty and twenty derby points respectively for their efforts. Final time was one fifty six and two today. Gulfstream Park holds their biggest race for three year olds the grade. One seven hundred fifty thousand dollar Florida Derby and it may be the most talented group of three year olds. We've seen square off so far this year the Barclay tag trainee Tis. The law is the six to five morning line favorite off his impressive scoring the holy bull stakes February that day. He defeated at on Dion by some three lengths and that one came back to air in the Fountain of Youth Four weeks ago. They both looked to have big shots today. But we'll have to deal with south Florida Newcomer Independence Hall. We last saw him finishing second as the big favourite in the Sam F Davis at Tampa but he had a few excuses that afternoon and could give the top two all they can handle if he fires. Today I'll be back with this week's top five list right after this word from spendthrift spent for farm added again now offering breeders are best incentives yet including deep discounts on young stallions and proven stallions and for the first time thirty days paid boarding at the farm of your choice so that you can read your mayor to a stallion from the most diverse roster in North America without the burden aborting costs serious deals on serious stallions only at spendthrift the breeders farm. Call today learn more eight five nine two nine four zero zero three zero or visit spendthrift farm dot com. This week's top five list of Derby contenders looks like this number. One is authentic undefeated for trainer. Bob Baffert won the San Felipe. Last out should run in the Santa Anita Derby next weekend number. Two honor second authentic last time out he's also pointing for the Santa Anita. Derby number three is independence hall suffered his first defeat in the SAM. F Davis last time out. Iran's in the Florida Derby today number four Tis. The law should be favored in today's Florida. Derby and number five Max field nearing return to the races. Possibly in the Arkansas Derby at oaklawn on May the second. That's your calling all three year old segment presented by spendthrift the breeders farm. Well as you heard me mention a few times throughout the program one hundred sixty one days away from the first Saturday in September and the run for the roses this year to be exact one hundred sixty one days nine hours six minutes and fifty seconds until the horses go into the starting gate and joined now by the man you just heard in that calling all three roads segment. Bobby Newman who will be part of my broadcast team. This afternoon. Bobby and I will bring you coverage of the Florida. Derby starting at five thirty eastern time that's presented by red brands and the F. T. B. O. A. Bobby one thing that struck me as I was listening to your top five list in this week's edition of calling all three roads. Tis The law who is the favourite on most people's lists was actually ranked number four in your derby rankings. That's true in another thing. Have about that top five list since we recorded that yesterday before Santa. Anita made their announcement. We don't know where authentic and honor. Ap are going to show up next since they were going to run next Saturday in the Santa Anita Derby but yes I have a I have been a big Fan of independence hall along. I think he has some excuses. Last time out at Tampa Bay downs in the Sam F Davis. I think he's capable of a lot better than that and his best races. I think. Make him the one to beat actually in the Florida. Derby today you mentioned in that Segment that this may be the most talented group of three roles. We've seen in any one prep race and you know some of the horses from the West Coast may argue that. Because we've seen some good ones out there But yeah when you get into independence hall annotate endymion and Tis the law together in one race. You have to think that this one's pretty salty. It is very salty. And obviously it's a mile and nate Which we haven't seen From most of the other three year olds thus far. There are some others in here. Besides those big three. That are exciting horses. Gouverneur Morris has really done nothing wrong and his three race career. Two wins and a second place. Finish in that second placement was to Max Field. Who at the time? People thought was a lot of people thought. That was the most impressive two year old race of the year in the breeders. Futurity at keeneland back in October and Max Field. If not being the favor would have been the. Maybe the second choice in the Breeders Cup juvenile not Suffered a minor injury. But it's it's a great field you've got some up and comers in their men as seen on TV he's never run a bad race in his career and he gets the advantage of the inside post today with Pokka Lopez who seems to win races and Bunches at Gulfstream. It's really a very talented field and Happy that Not only we're GONNA get to see the race that we're actually racing Gulfstream but it's a beautiful day here in south Florida now and it may actually get to about ninety degrees. Oh Wow summer like conditions in the South Florida area today and again post time for that Florida Derby coming up at six thirty six eastern time. I mentioned bobby. Our coverage begins at five thirty. It also includes the grey to Panamerican and the Grade Three Appleton which are the two races preceding the Florida derby any thoughts on those two races and who might jump up with a big effort. I think they're both very interesting races. The appleton which goes race twelve will probably have the shortest price on the afternoon with Zulu Alpha who not only was an impressive winner of the Pegasus World Cup turf back in January but came back with a great win from way out of it in the Mac Dermott last time out. There's not a lot of speed in the race and the course. That intrigues me. As a horse that Zulu Alpha beaten the Pegasus. And that's number one channel cat. I thought Channel Cat has always been better laying up close to the pace. If not on the lead I think with an inside posts in the post in a race without lot less early speed in it. That's what we're GONNA see Jockey. Joel Rosario. Do What Channel. Cat also intriguing. Look we haven't read anything about this but don't forget that the pay raises all of the entrance both in the dirt and the turf had to run without the medication lasix now. We don't know if anyone bled in those races we don't know who absolutely needs lasix and who doesn't obviously it did not hurt Zulu Alpha. Maybe it hurt channel cat. I am just guessing. I don't know but I'm willing to give him another chance. And he's down on the inside ninety two on the line. I think he would be the best chance of upsetting the apple cart in the Panamerican Zulu Alpha work to win the thirteenth race. The Grade Three appleton. Wow this is a difficult race to handicap. And if you're playing pick four pick fives or that mandatory payout kick six today. If you have a strong opinion here more power to because to me. It looks like a total spread type of race. The favourite will probably be the todd pletcher trainee Samba For Lewis is who I think is one ten races in the last two days. At Gulfstream Park. Science has written Son of intimacy several times in the past It looks like he's getting better and better but it's not a layup for him. There are several other very talented runners and I know on my ticket. I'm spreading. Yeah I I guess you Kinda have to especially if you're playing that mandatory payout that this was a good day to play. I mentioned the carryover of one point six billion going into today's card but they have to give it all away today. Bobby so if if you're putting together a ticket you mentioned spreading in that race. How do you approach putting together a pick six ticket Like you're going to have to do today. Well these days there are so many very competitive races. You really need to find one or two races that you can narrow it down at least in my opinion or you're going to be spending a lot more money than you really want to spend Cer- for me I've gotten the race that I really like and that I'm going to single is race number. Eleven it's the great to Gulfstream Park. Oaks these are three year old fillies. They're going a mile and a sixteenth on the main track and the second choice on the morning line is number five spice is nice and other. Todd pletcher trainee. This one was supposed to be ridden by heavier passed a lot as of now. I do not see any changes for the card So I don't know who's going to pick up the mount on this philly. She's very very talented. Choose renting twice in her career broke her maiden a very impressively by twelve lengths and off that dominant score. She was actually sent off the three to five favorite in the Great Devonian Dale. Despite the fact that she was facing tunnel is shape who already four for four and a multiple stakes winner. So I think the odds were wrong that day. The public got it wrong. Spices nice ended up running. Second to tonal is shape only beating a little over a length. I think she's going to improve leaps and bounds. Not only stretching out going around two turns but being that this is just the third starter career. There's a lot of pace in this race. I think she'll sit just and behind them three to one on the morning line spices. Nice is where I would single today and then I would go from there. I could spread in some other. Races may narrow the curling Florida Derby down to two maybe three runners because I I honestly think that both That both Tis the law and Independence Hall are Tad Better. Right now than what we've seen from the other so I don't know if I would just use those two. Or maybe maybe throw in one more likely winner Morris But that's the way I would go single in that race. Two or three in the Florida Derby and then Kinda spread around that and Hope I get lucky. Bobby Newman with me here. On the horse racing radio network. You'll hear more from bobby this afternoon as kickoff coverage of the Florida Derby five thirty eastern time serious to nineteen. Xm To o-on Hake Ninety six point one here a Lexington and ESPN six eighty in Louisville other affiliates around the country also carrying that coverage. You can go to our website horse racing radio dot net to check it all out in the last segment. Bobby we heard your interview with Barclay tag from Red Brain Radio this week and I touched on this one thing. He talked about which I thought was. Interesting is the fact that he feels like his. The law has matured maybe quicker than many of the other three year olds to this point in the season and that's why he's the top ranked horse and that's what you're looking for. If derbies on the first Saturday in May now. He asked the hope that he can continue to be above all the others. By the time we get to the Derby on September fifth. I I thought that was interesting. It's going to be very tough. And it's unlucky for horses that are maturing at the exact point when the Derby is supposed to be That it gets moved back but you know what that's just the way things are every. Unfortunately the world was turned upside down a couple of weeks ago and everyone is suffering in some way or not whether it's financially or just being a gigantic distractions in their life and when you have horses like Tis the law or maybe authentic out on the west coast that basically fit and look like they're teaching right around the first Saturday in May and now have to wait four more months it's unlucky. You look at the other side of it though. The horse's like Max `field for trainer Brendon. Walsh who are coming back from injury now. They have the extra time they could be back in top form by the time we get to the Gertie. How about Bob Baffert Charlatan? This is a horse race twice. He broke his maiden super impressively. He won an allowance super impressively. He may not have had enough points to get to the Derby the first Saturday in. May He's got plenty of time now to try to get there the first Saturday in September. So the pictures changed. It's very unfortunate For the connections pissed law but hopefully he will be as good then as he is now or even better when we get to September. Yeah so many questions will have to be answered including the prep race schedule that these horses will put together as they move closer. Churchill will have to announce the revised points races that horses will need to compete in as we move throughout the summer. It's going to be crazy bobby. Listen to appreciate the visit my friend. Thanks for spending some time this morning and looking forward to our coverage later this afternoon can't wait looking forward to it all right. Bobby Newman here on H. R. R. N. Going to get to one final break. I'll come back and wrap this one up for you. This is equal forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network. 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One point six million dollars carrying over into today's GonNa be a lot of fun. Don't forget that you can vote for your contenders. At least the ones who feel should be contenders for our HR fantasy derby that broadcast coming up. Saturday may second which would actually be Derby Day this year. We're going to present that fantasy. Derby head over to horse racing radio dot net slash fantasy derby to learn more into cast your votes today. You haven't till next Friday to do so and that's going to be a lot of fun fully produced broadcast pitting the greatest Derby winners of all time against each other all determined by your votes. Thanks to everyone who took time away in at HR and on twitter with our poll question today. Tis The law an overwhelming winner of that one. Everybody expecting the hill strut his stuff and get the job done later today in the Florida. Derby ovalles thanks to our producer. Lee Dela Pena in our Lexington Studios Chauncey for handling social media. 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Equine Forum - November 21st 2020

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Equine Forum - November 21st 2020

"From the rail to your radio fierce is the horse racing radio network effect on sex tape trying to get up. That's one way gumede. The final furlong out at the sixteenth foale got mean john velazquez rolling on home to win the breeders cup. Filly and bear sprints mean welcome to the equine forum screen on the outside putting on a show flip nine sunday school. Here's whitmore striding forward for the lead end a final up breeder's cup sprint. One a day in the career of this seven year old win four a-rod ortiz. Junior pep won the breeders cup sprint. Now here's anthony stabile. good morning. Everyone happy saturday. Welcome to the equine forum. Here on the horse racing radio network. I'm the big anthony's pinch hitting the next three weeks. Actually for the barron of the backstretch. Mike pana wary is maybe on a backstretch near you. I'm in new york and new york studios our producer. Lee dela pena defending the castle. So i was watching. The thrones Replace last night. He's back in lexington kentucky studios five days till thanksgiving action-packed weekend of racing across the country and north of the border up at woodbine looking forward to all of that stakes action today. Lots of good wagering and talk a lot about this on race day. This week still got some big days left in twenty twenty and what's been as unusual years you're going to find in every aspect of life but on the race track as well and i'm a glass half full turn. Women's into lemonades kinda turned lemons into lemonade. Kinda got and i think we should be very fortunate with thanksgiving right around the corner that we were able to have such great racing in a year. Where a lot of sports like i said. Just general aspects of life suffered tremendously. We were able to up third ration- card every day in the united states or canada throughout the pandemic in mid march since been march. And i know here. We didn't miss a show on the horse racing radio network which is something i will champion until Until i hang up one of these days so my headset hangs up. It's something we're all very proud of here That we were able to share these airwaves with some of our other friends and and with you. Hr nation of horse. You guys take part on thursday nights in the colin show but just being able to share this with you and to spend this time with you and what's been a really crazy year again forward to thanksgiving and just looking back on. What kind of an interesting year. It has been a lot to celebrate in the sport as well. We had another good year and today is a day and and it will be the theme of this equine forum Longevity it's something we don't see in the sport much anymore. We see a lot of these young horses. Three four years old retired rushed off to stud retired to be a bird now and it's a part of the game. It's probably the the the thing along with the lucrative purse money That's changed the most twenty thirty really thirty forty fifty years ago sources hung around more and get the business part of it. And i i get the money's in the shed but You know. I think the racing fan Feels gypped every now and then But today we celebrate longevity And we got a couple of horses running today. Sadler's joy at the age of seven. He spent his entire career Down in the states for training. Tommy arbitron and pink floyd up at woodbine. An he's not only spent his entire career in the states In canada rather he spent his entire career at woodbine he has made every single one of his thirty one starts at woodbine so against alba's seven employed eight years old so some longevity on the ray shackle talk to their trainers. Tom albatros ning. We'll talk to robert telera now name you hear much. But i think you'd be surprised by robert tiller resume when we talked to robert Later on in the program markazi a great friend of the network. I one of our best spokes people in all of horse racing. He celebrated his three thousand training win on thursday with super watching down at gulfstream park. West mark never says noda's here on each aren and we enjoy sharing these milestones and celebrating these milestones with him so markle beyond a little bit later. On and course Was to be inducted in the national museum of racing and hall of fame this year but those inductions postal until next year. Install a hall of famer in my is speaking of longevity. John embryo the longtime naira employees. Just this past year. His first full season in the announcer's booth. We'll talk john. Look back on what is first full year was like he'd been celebrating last year when we had him on his fortieth anniversary. At the new york racing association he has worked The majority of the past four decades plus for the new york racing association will talk to john about that and his first full year in the booth. And then you have a big domino player now last couple of years and we call it a gearshift when you cover your own number tile gaff leon the long jeopardy's coming tile f leon Tyler just riding less than a decade at this point tyler. Had a bit of a breakout year this year in twenty twenty spending the full season up at saratoga. Some big grade one wins as well and pilot definitely leona joy. Join us at the top of the second hour. And he's the which these things are not like the other of the show because tyler still young and a lot of Knock wood lots of great years in the. Saddle ahead for tyler gasoline. We had a fun show for you today. The one thing that our two stalwarts in sadler's joy and pink lloyd have in common is their running style and i know one's a synthetic sprinter and the others a distance turf specialist but they both like to come from the back of the pack and i think that is part of their pink lloyd's rockstar up and up in canada. I don't think you could find a person Down here to say a bad word about sadler joys just a hard knocking horse both sources. They're you know they're kind of blue collar. Kinda lunch pail horses. They get their lunch. Go to work every day. They always give their best. Sometimes it works More sofa pink floyd than sadler's joys lot more wins and plink. What has a lot more wins and savage joy does but they both always show up and always come with that big late run and that led to the poll question today. You know when. I'm betting my money. I like nothing better than betting on loose speed but when i am rooting for my favorites i noticed that most of my favorite horses have been off the pace runners so the fantasy comes out with the big late sweeping exciting move. You know hitting that. Walk off homer in the bottom of the ninth. Inning is always more attractive than striking out the side and the top of the ninth inning. So to me. So i always love these big blake runs born. I'm ben my money. I wanna be on the front end Us heavy guys. We don't need that much stress. We don't need to be We we don't need heart attack cities from the back of the pack. So that's the poll question today. Would you rather route for horse. That's a speed horse or would you rather root force that. Come from off the pace. What's which is more exciting to you. Which is the horse you prefer to for. What's more exciting for you. That's the poll question head over to h. r. n. on twitter poll question. Would you rather root for a front runner or would you rather root for a closer and we'll we'll read some of your responses throughout the program this morning again trainers albertrani mark. Cassie and robert tiller join us jockey. Tyler gaffney leon industry star of the week presented by stuart morris and the one and only my main man. John reality check announcer for the new york racing association on a loaded saturday morning lineup filling in for the baron for next three weeks looking forward to spending saturday mornings with you. Let's take first break. And when we come back tommy albatross. Who's gonna talk about his old warhorse sadler's joy this is the forum jarring tend to equine and pet care. Products have been keeping world-class equi- athletes happy and healthy for generations. Keep your equine athletes looking and performing well. Ten next generation wound and skin care treatment along with nutritional supplements leg muscle care products. 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Coming on t mobile is gaining ground down on the inside it is sadly joy his come away with the lead then dot matrix late move on the outside from a red night but it is sadler's joy with the lead and sadler's joy has one red smith snakes little more than two at the red knight was second and dot matrix finished third reality call the red smith about three hundred and sixty four days ago. Sadler's joy reported home pretty easy winner of the grade three. They'll run it again this afternoon and savage joy. We'll load into the starting gate again this afternoon to defend that crown in the red smith and aqueduct. Welcome back to the coin. Form here on h. r. r. n. Tom albertrani. His trainer joins us now. Tom this morning here on the form back you morning. Good morning what's left to say about the old seven year old thirty three starts over the owner faces star for the thirty fourth time today. He's been one two three and twenty two of them with seven wins including a great one in the sword. Dancer a few years back up at the spa. I just one of the coolest horses. We've had Banging around the big apple the last four or five years yeah. He's been so consistent over the years a yo shows up the always puts in a good effort every time runs. I mean what can you say narrowly beaten in so many great ones and You know he's still going strong. And hopefully we could see Jay another win today yet. You know you've been around dating back to your days as as a as an assistant for for hall of famer. Bill mont right. We were talking about this. Just in the in the press. Aqueduct ryan martin and i There's a great job in the press office. You know cigars. Twenty five years ago The streak started twenty six years ago with the cigar mile. Right around the corner and back. Then the cigar mile would already be in the books then nyra mile This horse he he he does everything kind of like a good horse does anyway. You've told me this in the past in the bar and just from from the time he wakes up to the time he goes to the track to face the starter he just. Does everything like an old class horse. Yeah he's just one of them good horses to have around the barn. He you know seems like he's enjoys what he does. He's nearly eight years old soon and you you would never tell he's been The today over four the way he acts and You know still going strong. You know we were talking this morning before before. We got you on the about longevity. We're talking about sadler's joy with you later on we're going to talk about a horse Employed up a mind. Who's gonna be making his thirty seconds. Start as an eight year. Old gelding What is it. what is it about him. that has enabled you to keep him around so long dominated. We lose you. Yeah i didn't. I didn't hear you anthony. Sorry about that. I said well. What is it about this horse that you've been able to keep him at such a high level for so long. Well i don't know it's You know I'm pretty pretty easy on the a works. I think that maybe keeps them around a long time. We've had several other verses that Stayed in the barn until they're eight nine years old including twilight eclipse so You know. I think a lot of try to preserve them as much as i. Can you know just try to put them through some easy works and A moderate gallup's every day and You know seems to work and you know. I love to see them around for awhile. Fairly similar schedule to last year for sadler's joy yet and a couple of actually added a handful of races on this year earlier in the year last year he came back In the bowling green and then ran in the bowling green sword dancer turf classic in the red smith the same schedule this year but yet a a longer season with him this year And a tough in that bowling green earlier this year talking to you about that. Yeah that was probably one of the biggest supporters. We had the worst he. He's always right there. He's been beaten into photos in the manhattan two years in a row and You know when he finally does get up you know you see his number. Come down and it. It's just Disappointing that it had happened. You know especially that day. He looked like he was much the best. But you know that's that's racing and Was some bumping going on. And i guess you can make a case where he. He came over enough where he should have been disqualified but he ran. Iran is race and Hopefully we You know we came rebounded back and I think the other disappointment was when we had all that rain. Day the sword dancer at saratoga where we knew He doesn't really prefer the soft going. But you know. I was just on a gut feeling was just trying to see if he could produce that same racy did at churchill downs when it was bog that day when he was there in the breeders cup so it just didn't work out thursday. But you know he's he's doing well right now we Came back strongly runs. Good fresh though You know really looking forward to later on historically And and we've read this in the in the press quotes and in team quotes and stories about saleh's joy. He can be a little interesting. Let's say i can't. I can't bring myself to say a bad word about So to say difficult would be i. I feel like it'd be smerch him. he'll be a little different to ride interesting to ride. Javier castellano was regular rider. Had some cleaned up a leg issue this week. How came out of surgery great. He's supposed to be back middle january so you have to go to joel rosario to pick up the mount seemingly joel rosario would be a perfect fit for sadler's joy a horse that comes with this one big sweeping run Thirty four starts getting one of the best writers in the country. What do you say to joel when you go into the paddock. That he's there any saito. Who can be a little quirky. Well like i'm sure did some homework. Probably watch some race and i'm sure he's been in races with him so he probably has a good no of how the style of running is and I mean i'll. I'll tell them a little bit about the horse of course but i think the whole thing comes down to if he could With this is a little tricky because you know he. He's they so far back and you always need that racing team you know you've got to find an opening to get through. Safes brown oregon have to go wide and lose all the ground. Hopefully he's got enough worse to get there. But i think joel a good fit for the horse and You hopefully we just get a good clean. Chip mini comes in runs his use of race. I think it'd be right there. Talking with trainer tom albatross. He's got salads joy the eight to five morning line favorite in the race. Three red smith today over akwa home-bred for woods lane farm The mayor dinah Has been she's been pretty solid. You've had most of the family. And i think a lot of people got confused last week. When they saw sadler's joys little brother fees dina ghosts go and seven eighths on the dirt And the confusion conic cleared when he paid almost seventy bucks with a real handy score talking me a little about him. He looks like a really. who are we. We like them going into the race. No i i was a little. Maybe a little concerned about the pedigree and running them on the dirt but he was working really well over it and to me i just said let's give them a chance. First time over it and see what we got if he doesn't run well or if he doesn't like it then then naturally we put him on on the grass but he was working really well on on the dirty and he's a different horse than his brother. He's got a little bit more Fluent action. I thought to handle it and Way right the days ensure showed it so each in a be. I think a real exciting to to see in the future so fun to have. But i'm sure he's got to be a little bit of a conundrum now right. He's run so well. First time on the dirt. He's a two year old Obviously i don't i would assume He stays on dirt until you feel like you need to move and monitor f- fantasy. Well he'll stay on the dirt as long as it keeps running well over it. Which i which i believe he will just from what i'm seeing and I think he's the first run holding My plan would probably be the ship into florida. Hopefully come back and run them in a maybe a mile race or so to turn race and see how he handles that. And if If he's as good as we we think he is and hope he is Hopefully we'll be targeting some some big races in the Later on in Early next year. Wow tommy i'll trying to maybe a little november twenty first case at derby fever talking about sadler joins little brother Wolfenstein a ghost and he lives in. That was a race that was that was a maiden race that a lot of people like to horses and a couple of those sources already run good races and to me it looked like a very good made his specialty race. And i think people you know i guess. Defense sadler joins akra at the same time. I don't think people realize how many good horses come out of those academic maiden races in the fall. Andy serling has the number. It's it's it's in the double digits of the grade one winners that have come out of those allow those maiden especially races so You might be onto something different. Well we sure. Hope so. I mean i know i knew it was a tough race. Going into it because At the last minute. I was trying to look for for rider and i think almost every jockey's agent i spoke to old said one in here so i said we might be up against it. I i'm out but i still. I still had enough confidence. That horse was gonna run. Well yeah it was. There was a big tip race From the dirt and the longevity on the turf and you mentioned twilight eclipse earlier right. He kind of passed on to sadler's joy. You have a couple of turf. Sprinters barn Duress won the allowance. Racer a fantastic claim by you Last year but let's talk a little bit about five. My man robert massie yellow big purchase price over at the wanamaker on the online sale Rob sent a lot and he is. He's paying quick dividends. Talk little about him in a. He looks like a horse. That has a real bright future. I think this is a really nice horse I mean. I love them. From the first day i got him. He's just an oppressive for to look at and watching him train. I you really got my attention. I told robert. I said you know. I think we've got a real serious source here. He does everything very easy I think he could. You know certainly rise to the top As we get into a four year old campaign with him but Right now we're on track with him to run in the claiming crown at gulfstream park on december fifth. And from there we'll We'll see how everything works out and go from there. I know the plan for him. At least rob told me breaking Bread over capellini cakes or cameras. A few a couple of months back month and a half ago rob really wants to win the jaipur with them. And that's a a pretty pretty lofty goal But invisible certainly looks the part so far absolutely. I think he'll just get better with with age too. I mean just from what i'm seeing. He's he's a real solid. It will be great to win. Those type of race wouldn't next year and You know we'll hope for the best and We'll see what happens in brag on yourself a little bit here. You don't a lot of horses. I i mean i can probably count on one hand the amount of times i can remember you drop it in for a horse and the rest turned out to be a real good one. Yeah i mean. We don't have a lot of claiming owners in my barn which i wish i had more. We've actually done pretty well off to some of the claims and duress was a nice claim Just something about him. I liked it. I saw first race and thinking you know i think i might be a little better just cutting back and distance a little bit and certainly paid off. I've been waiting till the end of the interview to ask you this question Back to salvage joy from it seven years old today Seventy seven year old thirty fourth stock. Today do you start to think about wrapping up with them with their. Seo here will probably send him down to florida in a brief joy. What's atlas joy. Sorry joy you start thinking about seven years old thirty fourth stars is. Is you know we trying to find a spot where he may be established. We're still working on that With sally runs today. And i think there'll be some decisions made But we have been talking about maybe retirement for the old boy. Maybe after this but You know would just say and what what happens after today and make some decisions probably where he's going right right well best of luck with him today. The barn looks loaded as you head down to when you guys when you had an out Probably we got some races if you run the next week or so. So we'll probably wrap things up before the end of the month and start sending a few down south all right great well. Best of luck with the with the old boy. Today with sadler's joy and file wolfe's dina goes in the entire barn Locked and loaded for a trip down to florida. Thanks for some time this morning. We have a great thanksgiving. The appreciate it. Thank you all right. Tom albatross johnny joined us. It old sadler's do. I didn't want to ask that question at the end. I don't think i'm ready for I think i'm ready for sadler joy to leave the race. Reckon tommy has done such an amazing job when you think about. Twilight eclipse and sadler's joy. Twilight randomly was nine savage joy. Seven somewhere around six milling in combined with the two of them doing something It's tough to keep them going that mile and three eighths mile and a half and have a such success with them. The source has been in the trifecta. Two out of every three starts. It'd be three starts going lane easier. 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In fourth position and looking for a rally super energizer and wide seven channels they straightway for home fans six across the race track and now at super watson who takes a short lead super energizer on the outside. The stablemates are one two at this point as they come down toward the wires. Super watson and beguel vasquez to deliver a huge milestone for trainer mark. Cassie super watson has done it. Super energizer was second seven channels home third than snow job and gunman three thousand for trainer. Mark cassie welcome back the equine forum iran h. r. r. and the big a filling in for the barron. Thanks for joining us. On this insatiable saturday morning speaking of sensational our next guest that something only thirty four trainers have done in third rationing. And that's get win number. Three thousand had happened. This past thursday down at gulfstream park west super watson marquess united up to join us now than one of the newest hall of famers mark. Congratulations thanks for some time this morning. Thank you very much appreciate you having me on. What a thrill it in such an unusual year. At least there's something to have a big old smile about it's been it's been a crazy year. You know i the hall of fame Having been inducted yet which will come next year. And that's fine and and then three thousand so there's been a lot of Couple things one realize how old i'm getting to lots of re- reflecting back Lot of memories of my father you know and And just you know all the people that help us when you win three thousand races. There's a there's a lot of good people behind you. you don't do it on your own. that's for sure. Talk about your dad And you know this is. This is the the question i kind of have to ask. Start out working on the game as a kid. I mean i. I'm sure you don't think about you know. Winning a thousand races let alone three thousand races right now. Never never i did tell my dad. And of course when i was about twelve. We saratoga since i was about i don't know ten twelve and I did tell him. At one point. We were walking through the hall of fame. He would take me there all the time And i said dad. Someday i'm gonna be be in here and you know as any good father would say okay. Yeah you will be you know. But definitely wouldn't be there without him and So he's been he's he passed away about. I think almost a little over three years ago. So lake st was here. He unfortunately he's not here to see the hall of fame. Even though i hope he's up there looking down also everything year years you as able to watch the breeders cup couple. Breeders cup wins which was nice. Yeah you know the last couple of years. Covert the covert aside. They've been real exciting over there. A couple of wins in in the american classics with with war of will and of course sir winston in the preakness belmont respectively last year. You know a a barn like yours. Let's talk about the covid. Nineteen for a minute. Because you have horses. Stabled in florida kentucky. New york and woodbine. It's hard to say year round. because would wind closes. Obviously but whenever there's racing in those four places you have horses there. So what is this. Been like for you you know. Yeah you have a lot to celebrate and it's nice to win the big races but you have operations to run. And now you're kind of handcuffed as your travel a great team of course but that'd be frustrating for somebody like you. Well yeah. I mean it's definitely been challenging but also you know i try to look at the bright side everything. At least we're fortunate enough to still be able to to have our sport. Were you know. there's so many people that have struggled. I mean. I just feel terrible for the restaurant owners and and you know what about all the these parents you know. Their kids can't go to school. And and i worry about their education going forward so yeah it's been difficult but And we just got you know. We got a monkey wrench thrown at us Yesterday We're supposed to run to the middle of december would buying and It it looks like and less. Something changes sunday. People last day They've they've Toronto's come up with some new lockdown rules and and this and that which looks like they're gonna shut down horse racing unless like. I said something happened so you know you start. There's never a day really where you don't have to answer questions and do things you know there is there's You have days where you may not have a horse running but those are busying themselves so and then you know for us A typical weekend may be running fifteen twenty horses on saturday or sunday. Which means if you win. Twenty five percent of them he's still have seventy five percent of losers. Which you you know you have to. You have to deal with that as well so You know. I love the game. I loved the action We've been very fortunate and it's taint your question about the kobe. It's been difficult but luckily you know like like our team at In toronto david adams it's been with me twenty five years We have groups that have been with me from the beginning and exercise writers Our operation in ocala mitch downs. He's been with me forty years so we have a team and yeah so y- I i can tell you one thing my frequent flyer miles have come to a stop. Haven't haven't been on a plane since february even when we my wife. And i drive now if we go somewhere while and these are things you know these are things someone outside of the game could never. I'm sure couldn't be able to fathom somebody in operations in four different places on top of the former cala. i mean. What price can you get on that on january first thousand one that you're not going to be on an airplane seven months nine months. Yeah exactly. I mean to sit and think all i'll be wearing masks skin and you know and yeah but The good news is technology is came so far that you know. There's a lot of things. If if i you know i probably will watch in the neighborhood of fifteen or twenty videos a day Either horses breezing or horses jogging and you know looking at i. So i've gotten so good at looking at videos. Well i mean i. It's things have changed so much who thought i mean. We're buying horses now. From videos were buying online. I mean bidding online. I thought four or five horses this year on the computer. And so you know things. Change in lee iacocca said standstill. Run over so we have a. I do everything on computer spreadsheets. You know i. I still oversee every horse. Whatever horses doing every day and who's entered who gets looked at the vets. Look at whatever. I it's a it's a pretty long process I love it and I think probably early. I think in february i had covert Because i was so sick. I have this. I i do the train schedule every day. i've done. I've probably in the last twenty years have not done it. Maybe two or three times. And i was dreaming governor whole stable four. Somebody asked my wife. How sick is mark she goes. He hasn't done his train chart and four days. That tells you how sick yeah as the son of training you know. That's that's you know that's getting done. If anything is getting done that day charge get into. Wow that's got to be the biggest spreadsheet. I'm a bit of a control freak and way you know i i mean i you know i just not so much control. I have wonderful people. But i wanna know what's going on and if there's a problem i wanna be able to try to help fix it because that's that's what you know. I have forty years or knowledge. So sometimes you get you go back in that your past and and and that's when you pull it out you know there's been a lot of There's a lot of curves in the road so you learn how to get around him. What was it like to win. Free thousand four. Live from mrs weber. Well it was special For a couple of reasons One mrs weber. You know she has been an icon in racing. Since i was a little boy and a little more even more special for me in that. I've been calloway for over fifty years and live oak spin in ocala and been a farm for over fifty years so i've known her since i was a little boy and then She was extremely close to my father. father loved her and and they were very close. I think that it's prob