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Judge rejects request to increase Kyle Rittenhouse's bond and issue arrest warrant
"Oh wisconsin judged is a new arrest warrant for the teenager charged with killing two people. During last summer's riots in kenosha kenosha county prosecutor's request rearrest eighteen year old kyle rittenhouse into increases bond for failing to provide. His current address is denied by kenosha. County judge bruce schroeder. I don't have the authority to issue the warrant. The district attorney is talking about. And i don't agree with his analysis of what these procedure forgetting. The band change the judge also ordering rittenhouse to provide his current address to the court under seal for his own protection. He's accused the shooting deaths of two men in the injury of another during the kenosha riots last summer for which his attorney says. That video. evidence will prove self-defense.
Judge declines new arrest warrant for Kyle Rittenhouse
"The judge has declined to issue a new arrest warrant for Kyle Rittenhouse Kenosha county circuit judge Bruce Schroder rejected a prosecutor's request to issue a new arrest warrant for Kyle Rittenhouse eighteen year old from Illinois accused of fatally shooting two people during a police brutality protest in commercial Wisconsin last summer the judge also rejected the prosecutor's request for two hundred thousand dollar bail increase prosecutors said Rittenhouse failed updated address as mandated by his bail conditions connection detectives who travel to the apartment on file found a man who said he been renting the place since mid December but his attorneys countered that he moved to an undisclosed safehouse after being diluted with threats he's been portrayed as a trigger happy white supremacist to tourney say he fired in self defense I'm Jennifer king
"rittenhouse" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM
"They're much smarter than you think on. The other thing, I'll say is not just black it But for right now it's black History month. So why wouldn't you be teaching about black history? But this also goes for Native American history. So many people are so clueless about Native American history and we don't teach that enough in school. How How's the life of Krakow Rittenhouse? How's his life? How's his life going to be for the rest of his entire life now? Yeah, He's gonna go to jail for a very long time. Why? Why Why is that? And that is what I'm saying. And yet personally, you know what? There are some kids that no, But there's so many kids that still don't know because they are following sometimes. I don't know what they follow. But sometimes they do have the wrong idea about what truly goes on in this country, and sometimes you can mess your entire life. In the case of the way the cowl Rittenhouse did. Yeah. Okay, So we have just a very little bit of time. But we were talking about okay. What? What should you be able to opt out of? Are there any classes? You think? Okay, Why fee? I think that the kids need to have that option of Of getting rid of some of their energy. They make baiI maker get rid of PE. There is like you don't have time to really shower afterwards and then people and then you got kids going to do PE and then they're going back to class and not even get in the shower and make pe a optional thing. You wanna opt in to opt out? I think you should be able to opt out of it. They make PE mandatory for four years in high school, But there's no financial literacy. That is mandatory. Yeah. Financial literacy and life skills. Those should be some mandatory classes, some of the basics out of balance your bank account. What's not to get into debt. What would you want to opt out of? I love taking foreign language. But I know it's not for everybody. So I'm still not convinced that foreign language.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"Down down down down okay. Andrew domestic terrorist murder. Kyle rittenhouse doesn't feel too strongly that he needs to abide by this dip yele shins of his bail. And all that. What's going on there. Okay so this is amazing. And and not in a good way in like a white privilege way. It like a white privilege way that you can't possibly imagine disclaimer. I have minimal experience in white collar criminal defense. I will tell you. I have never ever ever ever seen anything like this. So kyle rittenhouse East on two million dollars bail right boy. How did that kid come up with all that money. Andrew raised it online through a gofundme page. Throw money at a terrorist murder just to support him and what he does and then when you are released to your own custody particularly when you don't live in the state in which you are required to report in connection with your crimes the court will occasionally try and send you mail right They'll say hey we've got a hearing coming up and And you've got to show up because that's one of the conditions of the release. The the whole point. I should say there really two points. Behind pretrial detention. One of them is to protect the public against violent offenders and the other is to ensure that defendants of exceptional means do not flee the jurisdiction and fail to show up for their hearing right so you can imagine if bill gates were indicted for murder writing f a federal judge might be like you know what well or when jeff epstein was arrested. You wouldn't want to be like yeah. You're free to go out on bail. I know you're a private jet in an island a private island at a private security force that you could you know if we are enemy aircraft as satellite right. Yeah right so those two things are coming into play here. They both seem to favor. You know not releasing coward now book but been colorado mouse released and the court tried to send him male and that was returned to sender. And what are the things that you one hundred percent definitely cannot do is lie about your address to the court that has jurisdiction over you for your murder charge. The notice got sent back to the court with a A mark on it. That said there was no forwarding address and so as you might imagine Prosecutors in that case immediately we talked about this as as the story was breaking yesterday on our. Qa immediately sought a bench warrant for houses arrest and asked the sitting judge. Increase the bail amount by an additional two hundred thousand dollars now why they picked that number when he's already out on two million. I know now. I need to tell you what the defense has done. They've admitted to perjury. Wow which is a weird defense. Is that a good strategy. It's generally speaking not considered good. Defense strategy to concede to perjury before the court re remember by the way that written houses initial team consisted of the lynnwood team right. It was lynnwood and john pierce and another guy who entered together. How many lawyers are there in this country are. They're only seven am i. Guess there's only seven when it comes to right wing terrorist. Defending insurrection type lawyers. Maybe that's what it is. He goes to insurrection slash terrorism slash. Overthrowing the government. There's only a handful have that specialty. They were hundreds of thousands. Yeah and so kyle rittenhouse fired lynnwood and and that little cartel as being too crazy for him which you know. That's a fun one. And so now His remaining attorneys Which include mark d richards and counsel from a separate firm who was hired to kind of take the burden off of richards. At attorney by the name of cory sharafi. They've conceded okay. Yeah the court asked us for. Kyle written houses address and instead of actually giving them the address. We gave them a fake address. Why did we give them a fake address. Because and am going to quote directly from there Pleading in objection to the states motion to increase bond this as paragraph number four quote attorney. Pierce was directly. And for that attorney. Pierce is the former council. Right john m pierce the lynnwood associate guy. So when you hear attorney pierce. I want you to think somebody who has partnered with a certifiably crazy person can attorney pierce was directly informed by high ranking member of the kenosha police department not to provide the address of the rittenhouse safehouse because of numerous threats made against kyle and his family. See attached affidavit of john m pierce i pulled and have read the attached affidavit of john m pierce and. This is the weirdest affidavit. I have ever seen in my entire life and adheres. Why when you sign an affidavit and you sign it under penalty of perjury. You were a testing to personal facts that are known to you. An affidavit is not subject to the federal or state rules of evidence. Okay so what that means is say whatever you just say you think so when people ask me about what happened when you pork the test. I'm going to give my version of events. The test was one thing and then andrew poked now. It's impossible that kind of thing and you can say like you can give your attached. You can't separate years of practicing law. I had never encountered questions so unfair. Yeah yeah you can't lie but look what you can do is you. Can relay your feelings right. You can say in. My opinion and injury was trying to bring down my bar exam. Set right yeah you can say. I overheard andrew in a after one of our recordings. And skype disconnect. I overheard andrew talking to somebody who is believed to be his sister-in-law and said at he cackled gleefully and said ha ha ha. I've really got that bastard. Top black market t three b test maker. That's like grandpa could be could be. Look my point is. Is that in an affidavit. You testifies to the things that you know. In belief right it can be hearsay. It's then up to the court. You then argue whether that provision right because all affidavit is essentially witness testimony when you're not on the stand because you're not at the trial stage yet right so it's like a direct testimony right. It's like being on direct on the state. So imagine my surprise that paragraph one of the response and objection begins with on information and belief. Kyle rittenhouse in. His family have received numerous death and other threats. Based on the event of twenty twenty twenty in the city of kenosha wisconsin. Some of these threats were delivered via social media within hours of the shooting of this case. And when i turned to his former attorneys and again an attorney would know this. When i turn to that affidavit. I john m pierce being i duly sworn upon oath depose state the following paragraph five and the first four are just you know who he is right. I'm an attorney authorized to practice law. I was a lead member of coward now defense team until he fired me no professional association. You know i personally Posted the bond rittenhouse then we get into the actual facts. I some other terrorists to defend through information belief. I am aware that prior to november twentieth. Twenty twenty kyle rittenhouse. As well as his immediate family had received numerous death threats from members of the general public because of these threats arrangements were made for the rittenhouse family to reside at a safe house in an unidentified location. This is yeah right..
Wisconsin prosecutors seek arrest of Kyle Rittenhouse
"Way news radio prosecutors in Wisconsin, calling for an arrest warrant for the now 18 year old charged with shooting and killing two people during protests in Kenosha. Last August. Yesterday, the county district attorney's office filing a motion for Kyle Rittenhouse to be detained for apparently violating his bond for not informing the court that he moved to a new address. The office added that the move makes it difficult for officials to keep track of his location. Rittenhouse was set free in November on a
Wisconsin prosecutors seek arrest of Kyle Rittenhouse
"In Kenosha, Wisconsin, are seeking a new arrest warrant for Kyle Rittenhouse, alleging he's violated the terms of his release. Wisconsin Public Radio's Corinne has reports written House is charged with killing two people and wounding a third during protests in Kenosha last summer. Prosecutors say they sent a hearing notice two written houses Illinois home, but it was returned. They later they're in the teaching world moved in mid December, violating the rules of his bail agreement. Written houses. Attorney says the family moved to a safe house because they've received death threats. Written House's case has become a national flashpoint. He was released on bail in November after his $2 million bond was paid by what prosecutors call Dubious Internet fundraising campaign. Some have condemned the 18 year old for killing two men and injuring a third during a black Lives matter rally following the shooting of Jacob Blake. Others, including Donald Trump, have rallied behind him. For
Wisconsin prosecutors seek new arrest warrant of Kyle Rittenhouse
"Are seeking a new arrest warrant for Kyle Rittenhouse, the Illinois teen charged with shooting three people during a violent and fiery anti police protest in Kenosha. What Wisconsin Two people died during the August shooting. Prosecutors say Rittenhouse violated his bail conditions for failing to inform the court of his change of address. Prosecutors are now asking a judge to issue a new arrest warrant. Increased written houses bail by $200,000. Right
Wisconsin prosecutors seek Rittenhouse arrest, higher bond
"Prosecutors in Wisconsin are seeking a new arrest warrant for the teen who is out on bond charged with killing two protesters last summer in Kenosha now eighteen years old tile Rittenhouse is accused of failing to tell the court he changed his address in Illinois so can ocean county prosecutors want him back in custody but his lawyer says the team moved to a safe house after receiving threats written house says it was self defense when he shot three protesters in August killing two during protests over the shooting of a black man Jacob blik conservatives rallied around Rittenhouse raising his two million dollar bond while gun control advocates question why is seventeen year old boy was walking around with an assault style weapon last month prosecutors alleged Rittenhouse was photographed drinking with others at a bar in Wisconsin posing with a hand gesture used by white supremacists I'm Jackie Quinn
Prosecutors request arrest warrant after Kyle Rittenhouse accused of violating bond
"Coming up. The prosecutors in Wisconsin are asking for an arrest warrant for Kyle written house. He's the Antioch teenager accused of fatally shooting two people in Kenosha and of shooting and wounding a third during protests sparked by the Kenosha police involved shooting of Jacob Blake He's now accused of violating the terms of his $2 million bond. Prosecutors say detectives went to the address written house had listed on his body and found no longer lives there. The written house's lawyers have since released a statement saying in part, Britain House and his family have been living in a safe house because of death threats. Written
Chicago teachers vote against order to resume in-person learning
"Union says their members will refuse to work in person until they reach a deal over reopening this pushback comes his pressure increases across the country for classes to resume. Sarah Carr from member station WBZ has more teachers and other school staff approved the resolution calling to continue on Lee with remote learning until the school district and their union agree on a deal over bringing students back into schools. The union does not want to have to be re forced to return if they're scared for themselves or family member. Meanwhile, the school district is trying to make sure there's enough staff in schools to offer in person learning for those families who want it. Sarah Carp reporting cattle Rittenhouse,
Judge: Kenosha shooter can’t associate with supremacists
"Has modified bail conditions for 18 year old Kyle written house who's been charged with shooting and killing two people during a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Over the summer. Rittenhouse is free on $2 million bail. The judge granted a request from prosecutors to keep written house from associating with known white supremacists, drinking alcohol or having weapons. Prosecutors made the request after Rittenhouse was seen at a bar and apparently flashed a gesture. Known to be used by white supremacists.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"It seems to me that you believe prosecutors have to focus not of the shooting but to take a step back because you know what the defense is going to focus on. Is the confrontations themselves confrontation number one. They're going to argue based upon the testimony of the got at the preliminary hearing in the video is that rittenhouse is running away from rosenbaum and then the second video. Rittenhouse is walking away from the crowd towards the police when he is hitting the head kicked and then smacked in the head with a skateboard. And then the third shooting victim brandishes a hand gun and points it at rittenhouse all on video all on video yeah instill intent. Intent is important intent so he heated form the tent on them. You no the. The prosecutor is going to start from intense. That means start as him as a person. Why did she feel such a pool to go to another state. 'cause let me tell you. He was he did. He wasn't needed. He was it necessary. Do we have any. Do you have any information of the property. He was supposed to be protected because he left the building that he was in front of there is footage of him being in front of their property but no he went out to go hunting. If you're protecting property be in front of the property. You're supposed to protect but if you are trying to search for for people that you don't like so you can shoot them with this. This weapon of mass destruction. that is hunting. So that is what they're going to. They have to start. Don't start from the videos you have to do with prosecutors. Do which is. They made these elaborate plant. Bis intent intent doesn't start there. We have background intent. Does he like people. does he like protesters. Who was he fighting for. Did he get. Did he get confirmation he. I mean his mom was helping him like. What is he listening to. What is the posters. What what kind of pulses are on his wall. What they were that big game does he play. How was he has a student. Did he have anger issues. does he feel like all. This stuff is necessary to prove whether he intended to murder people that day. It's going to be some polarizing case. It's equity pointed out correctly. It has been politicized and the question will be. Who are the twelve people who will be sitting there in judgment. And what are the arguments that will be made. And how they view the videos and what is the testimony. You're going to be because at the preliminary hearing. We only got one witness. Ekeler mercy great to have you on the program as always thank you so much. Thank you thank you for having me. If i don't talk to ya happy. Holidays merry christmas.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"That they're going to bring in his game playing If he plays. Ps anything if he has any You know very violent video games. I suspect that they're going to go into his face but they're going to go to social media president presence as suspect that they're going to go to what he watches which he listens to so with that being said he was already on point to be aggressive. He's already looking for a fight. It don't take it. Don't take much if you are already prepped. You have your gun you have your you. You already have your defense. Why because it's already politicized people are telling people are telling you that they're rioters. You're not there. Kyle live there so the only thing he got was here say that there are writers. They were protesting. I protests people can protest but there were other people that were damaging property. best match. Your bag that's not your concern mikhail. Rittenhouse that's why we have police and at the same time people are saying hey You know people are having issues with the whole phrase of be fun but the police let me well an argument. That doesn't help is when you have defunte. were saying. Defend the police right. But the argument against it is that head. We need all these people but yet skill while we have this heavily regulated police department. How this heavily gist funded law enforcement. It took a child to cross state lines to help. Protect property like it doesn't make sense. Make it make more sense for me. What i saw was Truck light trucks like Army trucks swerve past this person with the our team on his side. Well here's what i was to say though. Is that all all. The police were nowhere near what was happening. The police were doing nothing to protect the local businesses of kenosha which were being torched and destroyed and going back again to the is hunting or his e going there to protect. It's going to be the testimony at the preliminary hearing about the first shooting of rosenbaum. Was that. There's a still frame from a video that exists from a distance. But the testimony was clear at the preliminary hearing that you had rosenbaum running after. Kyle rittenhouse the first shooting victim is pursuing. Rittenhouse so how again is that consistent with hunting theme of prosecutors because again if commonsense and say listen if i'm going hunting i'm going after the prey. The praise not approaching me this is. This is the problem when when when your victim is dead. They can't testify to wherever the defendant said so he cleans. He cleaned up that piece. That little piece of evidence. That could have helped. that's coming. That's the police officer based upon the video based upon the video. When i'm trying to tell you nobody runs. After people it could have been. There could have been some discourse. We don't have that information. Why because the victim is dead. No longer live and i will tell you this i do not care i..
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Catch up on the big moments from our current cases and relive some of court. Tv's most historic trials court. Tv your front row. Seat to justice defence seems to construe the statute as requiring that. We plead their affirmative defense. I don't construe it that way. There is no requirement that we allege that the subsection three c exception doesn't apply to the defendant. There is no dispute. it doesn't apply to him. No one is alleging. He's complied with hunter safety regulations or has a certificate or has done the class or that. This was hunting in the traditional sense of the word. This was hunting humans. not dear. that's the prosecutor in the kyle. Rittenhouse double homicide case. Wisconsin and cal rittenhouse to the seventeen year old going from illinois to wisconsin and this is the argument especially when you listen to that last line that i believe the prosecutor will use in front of the jury. The kyle rittenhouse sees. What's happening in kenosha. Wisconsin has to go. There has to leave his home state of illinois. Get to kenosha. Get an ar fifteen and go hunting and hunting for humans. Now i'm a former prosecutor. And i wouldn't be comfortable making that argument based upon. What would i've seen in the in the video and the evidence testimony and what i believe will end up in front of this jury. It's all about credibility. And i think if the prosecutor says this seventeen year olds sole purpose was to hunt and kill humans. I don't know. I don't think it's a winner. But guess what my next guest does criminal defense attorney friend of this show mercy back with us acklin great to see. Oh thank you for having thank you for having me. So what do you think of the process and this is aggressive. You're you're you're painting a picture that a seventeen year old is grabbing fifteen to go hunt humans. Yes because it has to be. It has to be aggressive. It has to be in your face. It has to be emotional. Why because this case is political. It's been political since it happened. And we have congressman Saying that this defendant should run for office should run for president for for the for the presidency. So when you have that type of when you have that type of outlet when you have that type of pressure you have to go hard or go home. There was no other way he had to go and pull the john grisham. Why because this case requires it. We have a case in which it's a different time. It's a difference based law has changed and he has to change with that. We find that you said something really really important. You said credibility well on credit even credibility is being attacked every day in courtrooms because we have a president that won't take the votes You know my st georgia's Election results so even credibility is being attacked everywhere. We have go harm. We have to go hard or go home. We have we have a different Jury we have a jury that's been inundated by both sides radical liberals radical conservatives. We have all of that. We have you know people giving their two cents. We have a seventeen year. Old white boy.
Kyle Rittenhouse to stand trial on charges of shooting 3 men at Kenosha protest
"Illinois teen charged with killing protesters wisconsin. We'll have to face all of the charges at trial after his latest court appearance today. Fox's jeff monosso has this live kenosha county judge. Lauren keating denies motions to drop to of six charges against kyle. Rittenhouse is accused of killing two men and injuring another in late august during rioting and protests in kenosha with a case now moving forward i do find it has demonstrated because at in this case salaries were committed relating to the council the complaint. I buying over a as such as cause. Further insists that this defendant committed those felonies relating houses. Attorneys say video evidence proves their case that the teen acted in self defense arraignment for rittenhouse is set for next month
Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Of killing two people and wounding a third during riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin. He was released from police custody on $2 million bail. On Friday. The 17 year old left the Kenosha County jail around 2 P.m. after his attorneys posted bond, which was funded by an online campaign. Rittenhouse has spent the past two months in custody on murder charges. He claims he fired his weapon in self defense. After hearing what he thought was a shot fired at him. 35 year old Josh is a Minsky has since admitted to firing that shot but only as a warning to writers closing in on his home from the
Illinois teen Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Illinois. Teenager is all smiles after being released from custody in neighbouring wisconsin where his accused of killing two people during summertime protests hours after being released a member of kyle written houses. Legal team posted a photo of him along with actor. Ricky schroder a seventeen year old. Kyle rittenhouse posted bond and was released from jail in kenosha wisconsin friday. He's accused of homicide. And the killing of joseph rosenbaum and anthony huber following protests of the police. Shooting of jacob blake this summer written. Nelson's attorney says he fired his gun. Though in self defense he was being followed and attacked by the men however those men did not appear to be armed. The mandarin houses accused of shooting and injuring did appear to be armed. Much of all of this was caught on video by witnesses and after the shooting rittenhouse told police pretty done but was not arrested in wisconsin and went back to his home in illinois where he was later. Taken into custody. Jessica rosenthal fox news
Kyle Rittenhouse makes bail, released from Kenosha jail
"17 year old charged with getting down to Wisconsin protesters is now out of jail. Brian Shook has the very latest. Kyle Rittenhouse was released Friday after posting $2 million bail. He's accused of killing two men during the unrest in Kenosha back in August. He turned himself into police the next day and was extradited from his home in Illinois last month. Cell phone video showed him carrying an ar 15 style rifle as he walked down the street. He claims he was there to protect local businesses. I'm
Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Also in Wisconsin 17 year old gunman Kyle written houses out on bail. Rittenhouse was arrested and charged with the murder of two people during protests. That erupted in Kenosha in August after police shot Jacob Blake seven times in the back. On Friday, Rittenhouse walked out of jail on a $2 million bond and was later seen in a photo on Twitter standing next to actor Ricky Schroder, who helped build them out. Bill. Money was also raised by my pillow
Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Year old from Illinois, who's charged with killing two people during a protest in was constant. And his case has become a rallying cry for some right wingers in the US posted $2 million bail today and was released from custody. Kyle Rittenhouse is accused of fatally shooting Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber and wounding gauge Gross hurts. During a demonstration August 25th that followed the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. He busted bond through Jack Illinois, told police he was attacked while he was guarding a business and then he fired in self defense. He faces multiple charges, including intentional homicide, reckless endangerment and being a minor in possession of a firearm. Wisconsin law doesn't permit minors to carry or possess a gun unless they're hunting. He's due back in court on December 3rd for a preliminary hearing. This case has taken on political over towns. Supporters of the Black lives matter Movement of painted written house as a trigger happy white supremacist. Conservatives that portrayed him as the Patriot exercising his right to bear arms during unrest Legal Defense Fund for him is attracted millions of dollars in donations, and his mother got a standing ovation from women at a Lakisha County Republican function in September. Cuba's father, John Huber. Ask Kenosha County Circuit Court Commissioner Loran Keating during a hearing on November 2nd two set Britain houses bail between four and five and $10 million. Uber said Rittenhouse thinks he's above the law and noted the effort to raise money on his behalf. He also suggested militia groups would hide him from police if he were to be released.
Illinois teen charged in protest slayings posts $2M bail
"This seventeen year old gunman accused of killing two people during a racial injustice protest in Wisconsin has been released on two million dollars bail seventeen year old Kyle Rittenhouse is from Illinois he was shown on video tape with a rifle walking down a Kenosha Wisconsin street filled with protesters August twenty fifth after he shot and killed two men Rittenhouse told police it was self defense while he was guarding a business a court deemed him a flight risk but he walked out of jail after posting bail conservatives appraised Rittenhouse as a patriot exercising his right to bear arms during unrest and have raised millions of dollars for his legal defense supporters of the black lives matter movement describe Rittenhouse as a trigger happy white supremacist in Wisconsin he's not even allowed to carry a gun as a teen unless he's hunting I'm Jackie Quinn
Kyle Rittenhouse’s Mother Says Her Son Shouldn’t Have Been In Kenosha
"Houses. Mother says neither her son nor protestors should have been out on the Kenosha streets. That night. The violent protest Ng turned deadly in August. Britain houses the 17 year old charged with the deadly shooting of two men. Wendy written as his mother tells the the Chicago Chicago Tribune Tribune that that if if police police had had done done a a better better job job of of protecting protecting businesses businesses from from looters, looters, her her son son might might not not have have felt felt that that it it was was his his job. job. To To do do so. so. Governor Governor
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"All sorts of things And then they come to the bargaining table. But you know the statements from the attorneys houses own statements to its fans and you know the political junkies that are following this. He's not gonna take a thirty year. Deal so i'm not gonna it. You know as a prosecutor. I wanna be very very aggressive in a case like this so they know that i'm planning to take this case to trial. Now it rittenhouse comes to me. And says hey. Let's the deal you know. Maybe maybe i consider something like that. But even i wouldn't offer the thirty. I would make him plead to the top count the first degree intentional homicide and put it on a judge and have him or her determine the appropriate sentence. Because that's the justice justice for the victims. You know and i would certainly have. The prosecutor argued that life is appropriate. That's the best type of offer an open plea to the top council. I would do in a case like this. People are dead. You know. this isn't but that's that's not offer that's really a non offer plead guilty plea guilty to the charges so he stuff to deal with folks. I'm telling you. I told you a tough prosecutor. And when he takes the case to trial he's gonna win it now when you look at this one. Let's be honest now. Okay based on the facts here and the allegations. Okay do you. Are you zero to ten. How confident do you think. Prosecutors should be in pursuing the top top charge. Which is the first degree intentional. Homicide eight or nine on this one and this is why outta ten because the first victim is coming atom with a plastic bag right. The second victim is coming out of them with a skateboard. No the third had a hand. Gun wasn't pointed at him but Again he's not killed. Fortunately but is it reasonable jury to think that someone is reasonable in taking this kind of violent action and then someone throw the plastic bag or he tries to hit you with escape. Skateboard arguments going to be that. You know rittenhouse spot that these individuals we're gonna not only disarmed him but used his own weapon against it but don't forget there's there's a gun shot that is fired before he fires a gunshot happening and that's on the sound of it at least is on video there. Is that gunshot in air But again it wasn't the victim it was someone else. We don't know why those warning shots were fired and again. Is it reasonable. If you hear a gun shot in a protest for you to unload four rounds with to someone that's lunging at you with a five that it's just not reasonable vinnie. I'm confident in this kid. Well let let me let me throw out your second degree. Intentional homicide okay. Which is which is kind of like manslaughter in wisconsin where they have mitigating circumstances and two of them arguably apply here. Do you think prosecutors can can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they don't apply adequate provocation. Death was caused under the influence of adequate provocation. In this case and this isn't a defense. This is a mitigating circumstance which we take it from first degree intentional homicide down to second degree. Intentional homicide unnecessary defensive. Fourth force death was caused because the actor believed he or she or another was an imminent danger or death or great bodily harm that the force used was necessary to defend endangered person. So this is basically him saying. I'm i'm involved in a case of self defense. It's not a defense to the crime. But it's a mitigating factor which could knock it down to second degree intentional homicide. I mean i'm reading that. And to me that describes this case almost directly on point i agree with you. Need to prosecute here wait. I'm gonna have to producer rewind that and play that back right now. Okay go ahead. Continue on the Exposure here right because even if rittenhouse is belief was reasonable. He acted in self defense unreasonably. He believed it subjectively. That may be enough to get that mitigation and get him down from first or second degree so yeah name is in the job the prosecutor though which is the truth right. What do you think the truth is. Do you think that the seventeen year old packed up from illinois got to wisconsin and that night he was heading out. I'm going to shoot a demonstrator. i'm going to. I'm going hunting tonight. I'm gonna kill some people or do you think he went there to protect the business and do you believe that he thought he was under attack when the mob was chased him down the street and when the a i think he's a convicted sex offender he didn't know that but found out subsequently convicted sex offender. Who's like in his thirties. was coming after him. So what do you think. The truth is right. Because aren't we supposed to dispense justice. Which is the truth shoes. Maybe that he reasonably thought that he was excuse me he unreasonably thought that he was under attack And i got maybe where the prosecution ends up. But i don't offer that deal. I do not offer that deal unless they coming ask for it. And then i have a sit down with the families and explained before i offer that deal why. There's some risk and why there was some exposure for the prosecution's case. Before i do anything like that all right so i think i've now talked to you down to second degree intentional homicide and we can. We can wrap this baby up. It's sixty years. do we want to go. Concurrent mean both victims sentences served at the same time or is it could be consecutive one after the other one after the other two to live stack dough sentences. I can we buy for katie. Can we take some of the time as supervised. Release on the back end and cut down not at all. It's offer and let the record reflect. He is now in plea offer. Land is second degree intentional homicide consecutive sentences. So it's one hundred and twenty years is your offer. I'm best and final than he is not going to get better than that. Which which basically is different than a life sentence unless the technology changes a lot in the next few years. Unbelievable well all right. Well name ramani. That's why we brought you in here. Because of you understand this stuff you know the way the system works and love having you on the show and appreciate it. Please come back. Thanks for having to meet any alright. Alright i it wasn't the best negotiation but i got him down from life to one hundred and twenty years. There's no difference folks by the way all right now when we come back. And you mentioned this the politics of this case. And i want explain to you why. The politics of this case will.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Other people he was a hero and i understand john huber's view of all of this and i'm sure there are many who agree with him and perhaps there are many who were there that night. Who agree with him that he was a hero that he was going after trying to stop someone that they saw as a threat but there were two words that he said that i found very interesting. Because it's it's a word that we've used a lot before or phrase active shooter and his son is the one in the second shooting. He's one of the victims shooting. Who has the skateboard who strikes kyle rittenhouse with the skateboard and then gets shot and killed at that moment. Does the video demonstrate that he's an active shooter at the moment that Mister uber son is going after him no but he hit already shot and killed somebody and was now running down the street from so from john huber standpoint. My son went to a protest because he feels something he goes. They're armed with. What is voice an escape or this kid shows up with an ar fifteen. He doesn't have a grill passion. He's that he's there for a fight so from john hewer standpoint. This kid wasn't active shooter and his son was a hero because his son solid happened and now sees this lunatic running down the streets within fifteen after already killing one person so is boy goes and tries to stop them and he ends up to. It's a very legitimate way to look at the exact same video that other people look at and say no. This is self defense as poor little seventeen year old was caught up in something. You couldn't handle any. He had to protect himself. If the one the one fact. I think though that may help the defense here is when they say he's running away. He's running directly towards the police line because there was a line where police were not going any further and there was a line of vehicles with the lights flashing which was very obvious to everyone and it. Was you know within a short distance of where the shooting takes place. And i think that's a direction is going so there's been a lot of discussion about a citizens arrest being made here. But he's he's running towards police and to me the complete picture. Neither side is giving the complete picture when they when they describe what they're seeing. You know what. I mean where one side avoids the that. He's going towards police. The other side kind of avoids the part that. Hey he had just shot someone. So it's a fascinating case. The police component really is is Fascinating too because before there's video of rittenhouse. Talking to police officers is social. Media said no. He's he's dedicated to khaliq. He's a seventeen year old. Who wants to be a cop or at least loves policing and so his mindset is yes. I'm gonna run to my allies. Well guess what he in his mindset when he shows up there with his. Ar fifteen in his seventeen year old brain. He thinks i'm a cop or the bad guys. I am a good. He deputized himself and he was reinforced. Who was reinforced by his mother. The bomb they're reinforced by the person that gave them the air. Fifteen reinforced by those police officers. Who gave him water at. Thank you for your service. That's the mindset that this kid had when he was put into a very volatile situation that he couldn't have right and the other part of it is looking at it from the other perspective is he had just shot someone in self defense and the one thing all the cases that we've covered in self defence. We always say well all right. You've just shot someone in self defense. Well what did you do next. You know did you. Did you just flee the scene or did you go and find police. Did you go to police. I think what the defense is gonna argue. He just shot someone. he's now in danger because there's a mob chasing him and he's going to. Police puts his arms up approaches the police vehicles to try to tell them what just happened and the police because of all the radio traffic of all the insanity that is taking place in the streets that kenosha wave this kid off a gada here. Just get away from us. We've got to deal with something down the road that just happened. And what did you do next. Though any he went home are any illinois. He went around and say. Hey by the way on the guy shop to people you may want to. You weigh wanna talk. He went home and turn himself in. He went home turned himself into local police. So i this is going to be a tough. One is going to be tough one but bail two million right do any indication that through all these donations and everything that he might be able to get himself read on the two million dollar bond a half million dollars right now on the latest website that is accepting donations. So he's got a long way to go. All right. ted. Rowlands court tv anchor on top of it as always thank you so much as i mentioned folks carl rittenhouse facing the potential of life without the possibility of parole the rest of his life behind bars but he's claiming not just that all i'm innocent. I am the victim here so the question is in a case like this where the evidence is like this. Is this a case where perhaps prosecutors should reach out and say. Hey here's a plea offer a potential deal that we will offer you. You admit your guilt to something less than what we have charged you with here. You do something less than life without the possibility of parole and we resolve this case without a trial. Well should prosecutors do that up next..
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"All the demonstrations and riots and things that have happened this summer. Very few cases related to this have bubbled up to the top as as cases that people have been talking about are widely interested in. Because there's been a ton of criminal cases that have come out of these demonstrations and riots across our country. But there's really only two that are kind of on my radar in a big way. One is the case out of denver involving a guy who was working security for local news station. Who shot and killed a protester. And he's locked up by did not get bond in. We're following that one the other one. I think that's even higher profile is the one that involves a seventeen year old. His name is kyle rittenhouse. he's from illinois. And there's a protest demonstration and riots. Taking place close by to where he lives but in a completely different state in a completely different city in kenosha wisconsin. And for some reason. I don't know. I haven't spoken to her. We understand that his mom drives him. He's seventeen drives him to kenosha. And someone in wisconsin gives him an ar fifteen and then he is in the streets of kenosha seventeen years old. I mean that's young. And i don't care how much training you have. How mature you are you know. Seventeen year old being in the middle of all that. And then within fifteen. And i understand. He's probably trained. Been shooting guns for years. But he's seventeen years old. I mean i have a seventeen year old so but that's not what the case is about. What the cases about now is what happened afterwards. Once he was there there was some violence that broke out and he ended up shooting three people. Two of them died and now he's been charged with murder. He's been extradited back to kenosha wisconsin. And he's now got a face these charges as an adult and he's facing the potential of life without the possibility of parole and the and i mentioned to people are dead by the way so he was in court this week and We got us some interesting interesting insight. I think into the attitudes and the case in the issues. That are going to bubble up through this one as well. And i want to bring in court tv anchor. Ted rowlands who's been following this very closely. Ted is my assessment right or am. I missing something. Because in all the protests demonstrations and riots there have been tons of arrests and tons of crimes that have taken place but really to me. This is the one that seems to be on top of the rest and we really have been talking about many others in the reason is because the facts of the case are Are different rate in. Most of the arrested took blazer people that went to the protest and did something wrong and were arrested and move. It is what it is. This is different. Because you've got a two sides here and you've got two different stores in two ways to look at the exact same facts With the video we just take the video. You can look at the videotape. Oh explain the video explained the video to folks who maybe haven't seen it. I mean i think you've seen it and and check the show notes folks because you can get access to all this stuff but described video. What we see kyle. Rittenhouse has an ar fifteen in his hand. He's running down a street in kenosha. There's chaos around him and some people are basically chasing him down and this is the second shooting which is widely always is. There is shooting. But it's not clear and it just doesn't have the same opportunity to absorb. The situation is the second shooting and in this video. Rittenhouse is clearly attacked by two people. Turns around and shoots kills one of injures another one. The question is was this self defense. Many people say that's absolutely self defense others say no he didn't need to shoot the other armed people. He put himself in a situation that created his issue So that's where we are. That's why this case is so compelling like the thousands of other arrests that were made at protests around with that right throwing bricks attacking some wine or you know whatever it is now. I want you to take a listen to mark richards. This is the attorney for seventeen year. Old kyle rittenhouse there in court and this is a first appearance and it's also a bond hearing so they're trying to figure out okay. What's the bond going to be set at. How much money does he have to post to get out of jail. Let's listen mike. Sciences seventeen years old his no prior juvenile no other record whatsoever he has ties. The community is father lives mma community. He worked in the community to self defense claim in. This case is overwhelming. It's i'm videotape. And under all of those circumstances. Three quarters of a million dollars. 'electronic monitoring is more than sufficient. We have no objection to non monetary conditions but at a certain point the state can bury their head and sand and in reality. Who struck might client i. Who attacked my client. I mr rosenbaum deceit might clients running down towards the police line when he's attacked by a mob. We're not talking about demonstrators. were talking about rioters. Who had ill intention their arch and fortunately they came in second all right ted so that's mark richards and he's painting a picture very clearly. Been very aggressive the defense in this case and putting their version of what happened out out there in the public domain. And they're saying he's the one who's the victim absolutely that's part of their strategy from the fighting extradition on this has been out in front and center. They've received donations. A gofundme page was put up. Shut down they now have a new mechanism for donations and people are literally donating thousands of dollars for his defense. That's a strategy. The painting the picture of this being a wonderful person is accurate. I mean you know he was. He loved law enforcement is a lifeguard according to his family. The reason he was there was because a family friend own the business and was asking for volunteers. And he said oh. Let me go. Let me go and mom took him to kenosha to be there to help. Protect a business. That's all well and good but two people are dead because of this kid and that's the reason he's sitting in that courtroom in wisconsin and that's the reason why The judge said sorry. You're you're not walking. It was less than a million in. It's going to be two million dollars bail bonds. What's needed to get him out now. During this bond hearing one of the victim's father spoke. And and i found this you know. There's there's anger and there's heartbreak in it's mixed together. And i understand it. I'd never had to deal with the tragedy that he is dealing with. Which is the loss of a young son which is the worst thing that can happen to a parent. It is the worst and he was able to speak and you can actually hear his pain but he also paints a picture of the way he sees what happened to his son rittenhouse. They've he's above the law he's been treated as such by law enforcement and so he believes he's justified in this case in for for him to run Wouldn't wouldn't surprise me In this defense self defense that is impossible. That is impossible. I don't know what part of the video you watch. But he already killed a guy shot him in the head in an tried to run and my son was hero. He tried to stop him and so did everybody else. He was an active shooter and he tried to fleet and my son lost his life.
Bail For Kyle Rittenhouse, Accused Kenosha Shooter, Set At $2 Million
"Old Antioch native Kyle Riton house He's accused of fatally shooting two men and wounding a third during unrest in Kenosha back in August. Court is going to impose a $2 million cash on believing that is reasonable, necessary and sufficient at this juncture to secure the appearance of Mr Rittenhouse in Today's virtual court hearing came after a judge in Illinois ruled Friday to extradite Riton House to Kenosha. Search for at least one terror suspect continues in
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Photo court TV live over the air uninterrupted. If you're watching television with an antenna, just rescan your channels now to add court TV and go to court TV dot com to see the exact position and more ways to watch court TV in your area. So there is one more reason why the prosecution cowl Rittenhouse is going to be difficult and we've sort of dancing around it here throughout this podcast, and that is the politics of this case. Okay. The politics of the case and the way it is broken down where you've got one presidential candidate looking at it one way or another one looking at it a different way and the people who support those those different candidates looking at it differently, and that's a problem for prosecutors and let me tell you why. Because if if that's the perspective and that's the way people see it. That's a split. Okay, and that's a split. I know basically down the middle of our nation and basically down the middle of Wisconsin. Okay. So you're GONNA have a jury of twelve. and. Arguably, half the people will see it one way half the people will see it another way. Based upon their politics now, I know there's a jury selection process there's deer. But the problem is. You can't kick everyone off the jury right at some point you're going to end up with some jurors who kind of see it one way and some jurors who kind of see it another way and the reason it's a problem for prosecutors and not the defense is that prosecutors are the ones who have to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt to all twelve jurors. The only way you get a conviction is by convincing all twelve of the jurors. Anytime a jury comes back and it's Eleven to one, ten to two, nine, two, three, that's a win for the defense. It's a win for the defense because defended has not been convicted of the crime. So this is just another reason why it's so tough to be a prosecutor. The only way you win the case is by convincing twelve, the defense can win the case by convincing one. Just one. And in a case like this, that is breaking down on on political leanings. Think about it, and even if you get Jersey I can be fair and impartial based on on on the facts of the case it's the way you see the world. It's not going to be lost on this jury that there was a protest in Kenosha and the protesters were anti police and the protesters amazing engaged in some rioting and the protesters may have destroyed some businesses and the protesters were supporting Jacob Blake and then you've got it's not going to be lost on the jury that Kyle Rittenhouse supports police that Kyle Rittenhouse said he was going there to protect businesses the cow rittenhouse believes in the second amendment. And that's all politics. All of that is the politics of the way we're seeing the situation in the world right now. and. If you end up with just one juror. Who was leaning one way? Who sees the case through that through that filter? You can't get a conviction. nope. nope. No Self Defense Second Amendment, they'll come on. Can't do it. That's why it's such a challenge here. That's why I think it's a hard case, a difficult case, and maybe as Monica was saying, maybe this ends up somewhere else other than first degree murder. And when you have jurors that can agree one of two things can happen. One is you get a hung jury and you come back you got to do the trial again the other thing that can happen is that jurors can go back and forth and negotiate amongst themselves, and if sometimes there are lesser included charges so you have not guilty on one end. You have first degree murder on the other end but in the middle you've got you know reckless homicide, which is it's not murder it's not intentional, but it's it's something that is not not guilty, but it's something much less than intentional. Killing of another human being this premeditated this. This I intended I wanted to take a life I wanted to take. That's why I was there. That was my my mindset versus maybe I shouldn't have brought a gun. Maybe I was being a little careless maybe I was being a little reckless and it happened right. So that's why for prosecutors say it's a challenge always talked about what they're charging what they really believe it is. And prosecutors should only charge what they really believe happened here. You don't. You never bring charges that you don't believe you can prove that you personally do not believe in. Okay. So prosecutors in Wisconsin believe they can prove first degree murder and they believe this is first degree murder. So when I say this is a tough case that's what I'm talking about now could something Happen here perhaps, but the challenge here in a case that is turned. So political in a country that is so divided in a state like Wisconsin that is so divided. And remember if this case ends up in Wisconsin which I think it will at some point, it may not be heard in Kenosha it may be heard somewhere else. And think about. The whole jury process here in selecting this jury and going through their social media posts and what did they say about this? What did they say about that and you know who? who were they? Who are they leaning for for President? Who are they? What are they posting politically the attorneys on both sides you're going to be all in that. And at the end of the day, you can't get people. People will not be kicked off the jury merely because they voted one way or another. Or they see the world one way or another. The only way they get bounced by the judge is if they can't be fair and impartial if they can't put aside any preconceived opinions that they have about the evidence or the case, put them aside and base their verdict solely on the evidence presented in the courtroom. So this is a challenge above challenge I'm not saying it can't be done but it's GonNa take a really good prosecutor. It's GonNa take some incredible arguments. It's GonNa take. Some amazing examination of witnesses and cross examination of witnesses and you're going against the defense team that as we've been saying is. Aggressive. To say the least, they are not going to give an inch they're going to press press press. So we shall see again this is a case we will continue to track continue to cover on court TV, which is always folks your front row seat to justice it's not just a podcast is a website court TV dot com where we'll have lots of articles about. Postings about this story and other stories check the show notes we have incredible links there as well, and of course, you can watch court TV each and every day if you have a digital antenna and you don't have court TV on it, if you can't find it rescan that digital antenna and chances are are signal will be there for you. 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"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Wrong situation. This is a gun toting police loving young man that is looking for trouble because he wanted to be strong and show that he had power and he found trouble and he found trouble in a big way. So I, think when the prosecutors starts with that story and then they have the video. It's not going to be as difficult as you think. Well here here's the problem though let's start with. There's three shootings. There's three victims right I one Joseph Rosenbaum, he's thirty six years old first of all, and there's video of him from that entire night antagonizing people. So the defense is going to be able to show this jury exact exactly who Joseph Rosenbaum is and the attitude that he was displaying before he got shot and then they have to concede that it was Rosenbaum and others who were trying to take the. Gun Away from Kyle Rittenhouse, they had him cornered then there's a gunshot take that is fired behind Kyle rittenhouse before he ever fires his gun. So he hears gunshots which he recognizes then he turns and you've got this group of people including Rosenbaum who are trying to wrestle the gun away from him. They've already threatened him and now they're trying to take his weapon. So now you've got a case where you as the prosecutor have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that. There was going to kill these people I wanNA murder them or am I concerned that someone just fired a gun behind me and now these people are coming after me after threatening me trying to take my gun from me. Once you tried to take someone's gun that gun owner or that gun possessor? I. Believe has a good argument for self defense to use that gun. Yes. Sure. Typically that would be a good argument and there's no doubt that the victim in this case or not you know the altar boys right? They were there. At the protests that they were voicing their opinion they were you know going after him. So to speak you can't get rid of those bad tax in a good prosecutor will be able to know I can't get rid of these bad facts. You don't have to like the victim. You don't have to liked the victim did but he did not deserve to be shot and they did not deserve to be killed. Okay. Now the prosecutor is going to focus on it doesn't matter if they antagonize him what matters is he showed up he. His home, he went to another state to come to a place that's already in turmoil with a big gun with the intent to cause a problem to patrol to protect play cup to play vigilante. Right just like George Zimmerman used to back in the day. Right he did this on purpose. So it doesn't necessarily matter what the victims were doing right now the victims are trying to take the gun away from him. Well. Heck. Yeah. Wouldn't you got the seventeen year old waving a gun and acting like you taught stuff I would want to try to protect myself and get the gun away from him too. So now that being said, I think, I agree intentional homicide is tough tough. I don't think he went there like you said with a plan for murder but the reckless homicide I think a no brainer because the way he taking a gun to protest like. There's no doubt he records. He was running. He was acting like he was a big guy on campus. Yeah. No problem with the reckless comments I I have to give it to you vinnie little tougher. Okay. So now let's get to the next victim because you're saying he's acting like the big man on campus he's running literally running away from a mob that is chasing him and there's video. Clips right to be the big man on campus. Okay. After the first shooting now he is is he tries to render aid. But he's then surrounded by more people, he's in fear of his own safety. So he is now retreating and running away and literally running from a mob as he's running down the street away from a mob he gets smacked in the head by one person then trips and falls on the as the mob is descending upon in the head. The head, his his hat flew off. How do you know it was actually smacked in the head while I will let let the jury decide is they look video that I saw I don't know which one you were watching. The one I was watching had then he calls in the street and this is crystal clear as he falls. Now, the mob is descending upon him and they second victim Anthony Brewer. Smacks him in the head with his skateboard and then goes for his gun. Maximum head with escape boarding goes for his gun. Again, you're going to try to after you've assaulted someone. Now you're trying to wrestle his gun away. I I don't see how it's not a reasonable argument to say self defense there, and again, the defense doesn't have to prove self-defense. It just has to be a reasonable alternative. It's the prosecution has to prove that it wasn't self defense, and that's where I see the real challenge is especially with victim number two here. I agree with you that there is definitely a challenge there but I think it's a challenge that the prosecutor to get over if the prosecutor is very careful about the jurors they get on that jury and does a great job setting up the theme and the theory of the case that here was a person that was trained act tougher than what he was taking a gun to a fight knowing full well that he was being reckless. And he intended to cause problems during his mind protect people. But again, he's not a police officer. So if you get the right people in on the jury Benny I think they're going to look at that whole skateboard incident and this guy the victim trying to take the gun and say you know what the defendant got what he deserved, and he did not have the right to turn around and do the entire sequence of what happened. All right. You talked about bringing a gun victim number three has a gun and brandishes a gun and points the gun at him. So, if someone is pointing a gun at you, I, think you're allowed to use your gun on them and this that. Aggressor. argued. Kidder is going to argue that it was written house that was the aggressor. He's the one that brought the big gun gun to the fight from a hallway. Here's. The size they're not conceding that he brought the gun from Illinois. Japan. So whether Wisconsin not right. Content. Another state. The third victim goes towards Rittenhouse. Okay. He he lunges towards Rittenhouse and brandishes the Weapon I. I, think that's another tough one. Now, this victim thankfully survived. So he's going to testify about it, but that means he's got to be cross examined. Why did you have the gun? What were you reaching I? Why are we reaching for his gun? Why are you going to have to? Why are you chasing him I mean More. You've got this victim now being able to use self defense because here's this that seventeen year old right. This young man that came from another state and had a gun somehow miraculously not from his state from somebody else I feel like he was the cop brandishing it using the big word that you have there the big law enforcement word you know showing it around, and now with this guy did victim but has the right to show the gun and to say, Hey, knock it off right and then he ends up getting shot I don't know of any I think I it's a tough case but I think the prosecutor has enough as long as they get the right juror jury in those. Ha. Monica Lindstrom. Great to have you here but you mentioned the jury. We're going to talk about that in just a second, but I want to thank you for coming on the program I. Think we can agree that the murder charges. So this means I win folks the murder charges we're going to be very difficult. Correct Then you're going to see very. Well you gotTA. Let me speak. Yes I'd say reckless and I'll say sometimes I have to let you win some battles so that I.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Podcast. Thanks so much for downloading and listening on Vinnie politician former prosecutor with you. Also, the host on court TV's show every night from eight to eleven on television. So we've been covering a lot of these stories throughout the entire summer, and one of those stories we've been covering is out of Wisconsin and it started with a police shooting of a man named Jacob Blake and you. May recall this video that was taken by a citizen Jacob Blake kind of rounding his car or not his car, his fiancee's scar rounding or his girlfriend's car or is ex girlfriend's car or victim of his alleged crimes car it's not clear folks. It's not clear a lot in that case is not clear anyhow as he's walking around that vehicle and trying to get in, he gets by police he does not die. He survives and he's been charged with the crime in the investigation into the shooting of Jacob play us. So we're waiting to get some results there on whether or not anything will happen to the officers for shooting Jacob Blake. But in the in the aftermath of that, there were a lot of protests in Kenosha. Wisconsin, and these protests got very dicey, very violent and at the end of the day. Two people died and seventeen year old has been charged with their murder seventeen year olds. Name is Kyle, Rittenhouse. He was not even from Kenosha wasn't even from Wisconsin he's from Illinois, and after the shooting that night in the street, you may have seen the videos of it. He was not arrested that night and Went Back Home Illinois where he turned himself in well now is in Illinois and the folks Wisconsin obviously want him extradited hasn't been extradited yet, and there's a lot happening in this case and court TV crime injustice reporter Gina has been on top of it and covering it for us. Juliette. Thank you so much for joining us. Glad to be. Here. Okay let's start with a Kyle Rittenhouse. He charged in Wisconsin and the charges in Wisconsin are murder and they want to charge him as an adult correct he seventeen but they want to charge him as an adult right first degree, intentional homicide, two counts of that. But also he injured someone in that shooting and he had a dangerous weapon under the age of eighteen, which is against the law and Wisconsin. All right. So he's facing those charges, but he's in Illinois. So what's his status right now? Where is he and is he locked up busy in adult jail juvie jail? What's going on? Right now, he is in Juvie jail as called June out attention. He is behind bars. He had been ever since he turned himself in day after that video everything that we've seen the shooting how it happened held unfolded there different angles. He then went home past police. Arrested and he went back thirty miles across state lines to Antioch Illinois and the next morning after he went home with the sleep, got up the next morning turned himself in and has been in detention center ever since he is they're being held as a juvenile. So ex can't even find is information on the online docket because it is sealed. Right, juvenile records it's like family court everything sealed. It's not it's not open. Like many of the records are so this. So now there's a hearing, right? So. Wisconsin wants him Illinois wants to send them there, but his attorneys are finding it I want to play. What John Pierce one of his attorneys said in the in the last hearing that had in this case, this again is the attorney for the seventeen year old Kyle rittenhouse clear your honor. It's no secret that this is a very unique extrordinary situation they're massive amount video evidence that shows that there's a shadow of a doubt that this is not legitimate. Criminal Prosecution is a political prosecution. There are serious issues with the extradition paperwork that in fact, bolster the suggestion that this is a political prosecution. These papers were were sent directly to the governor without us even getting a chance to look at them in the first instance without any notice. Is, no reason to rush there there is danger to this to this detainee there there is a presidential candidate in the heat of arguably the most heated election perhaps ever certainly since eighteen sixty s inflame the situation and recently asked that that that this detainees due process rights be observed. So we can challenge this in a proper way and ensure that this is illegitimate criminal prosecution and not something else all right Julia. What did what is John Pierce and Kyle Rittenhouse is defense. What do they want to happen here? What are they? What do they want the court to do? They want the court first of all to rule on writ of Habeas Corpus that they have filed challenging his arrest. The fact that he's behind bars, the fact that he's a minor they say also plays a role in this and he's got really savvy legal team. They brought up two separate issues that they have with this arrest I. They say the extradition paperwork that was used to try and get him from Illinois back to Wisconsin. Is Missing a signature and it doesn't meet statutory requirements without that signature and they. Say It involves some false statements that were obtained in order to get not only the arrest warrant, but the extradition documents say it fails on that and also they say that Illinois shouldn't be able to be compelled to send a minor over state lines when his constitutional rights are being violated vis-a-vis. This warranted they say is an improper and say Illinois would be an asylum state so that right now is. Still, in a holding pattern, he's not out of Illinois yet and it's been almost two months since the shooting happened it's fascinating because in most of the cases we cover Julia even even overseas sometimes, it becomes very easy to extradite someone within the United States all the states have an. Inter interstate agreement that they'll send detainees they'll send inmates back and forth, and it's and it's almost like a pro. Pro Forma kind of thing you just go into court and it happens most of the time they wave it but they're going to fight I. think they're going to fight every bit of this case. Don't you get that feeling from this defense team that every issue will be fully litigated that every they're not gonNA leave anything unturned they are not going to concede one inch in this. In anything tells us that extend video that they have already put out. We're in TV and it takes us some time to put together a really good piece and they put out a video for our listeners. You are not familiar with it. Produced video that walks you play by play through what their defense is going to be. The self defense that they are claiming is attributable to their client. They show you the angles and then they had these corruptions on the screen with all of these definitions of what's going on in why it absolves. Kyle. Rittenhouse why he's a true American why he's a Patriot why you should support him and they say this is actually even going to help with him in his fundraising and his legal. Defense Fund so. Defense team that is on it like that is already an indication that they are going to fight tooth and nail when it comes to this case. Absolutely. It's turning this case when you look at the reaction on social media and other places. Is Very political and it seems like people are taking sides depending upon their politics rather than looking at the straight up facts and the law in the case Pierce even mentioned it, and that statement he's saying one of the candidates had weighed in on it. He was talking about.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on KQED Radio
"17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse. The shooter did not R S v P to the militia events Paige users complained about and we don't know if he was inspired by its called to arms. What we do know is that written house was seen with other militia members earlier that night. And then, after cholera in house allegedly killed people, The page was actually a place where people went and celebrated it, And even then, some of the Facebook users were reporting it to Facebook. But Facebook still, you know, didn't remove the Kenosha Guard page. The event page disappeared The next day At first Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg suggested that his company had removed it. In fact, it never removed the event page with all these violent comments. It was the creator of the event page from the Kenosha Guard itself, who removed before Facebook got around to it. I want to share about our investigation. Zuckerberg spoke directly to his employees about the incident. You know, the first thing is we designated. The shooting is a mass murder and on removed The shooter's page on his accounts from from Facebook Instagram this point we haven't yet found any evidence that the shooter Um, was following this commotion regarding page or was connected to the event are invited to the event in any way. There are a lot of people who feel that, you know, even if Kyle Rittenhouse, the alleged shooter didn't necessarily our C P to that event, it's that kind of discussion. It's that kind of using the platform to bring people together to take that kind of action that led to the events that night. Facebook is far from the only big tech company whose platform is used to spread misinformation,.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show
"She goes on to form under her new name Joan Jett. Joan Jett and the black hearts their debut album. was turned down by the first twenty three record labels it was offered to. Despite containing the future number two hit. I Love Rock, and roll. It's almost as if the industry experts always experts. Dudley Brown is the founder and president. Of the National Association for Gun Rights and they have been in the news for. Raising fifty thousand dollars for Kala Rittenhouse. He's the young man who defended himself in Kenosha? Wisconsin. And they provided that money to help with his criminal defense because he is being charged, we spoke to Mr Brown this morning that interview lasted two segments were not devoting two segments to it this evening but some of the highlights will play for you to close out the show, and if you want to hear the entirety of the interview, you can go to our podcast in here. Article, from USA Today National Foundation. For Gun, Rights Raises Fifty Thousand Dollars to support Kenosha shutting suspect Kyle Rittenhouse Dudley why do that? Well Michael. Really doing it because we see young man who? Who practiced is. His rights to self defense and in a very tense situation did a frankly a job better than most police officers could handle. In. That case and and he's being prosecuted for it and we looked at the situation and said. can prosecute him. They can prosecute anybody for self-defense So we figured we jumped to his aid and our members agreed and and donated in large quantities and. I promise. We spend every penny raised on to help him directly and we did we wrote the check in fact yesterday gotTa. An email, the picture of Miss Rittenhouse and and her attorney Kyle's attorney John Pierce with the check and hand. So mission accomplished you know people will point out his age and crossing state lines put. It strikes me that if the police law enforcement are not going to do their jobs American citizens are going to step in and do it for them in that is the protection of the week. Well. The interesting part about all that is that they're the state of Wisconsin just. So everybody all your listeners understand car Rittenhouse, an intent detention facility in Illinois where he lives and where he was arrested. he is fighting extradition to just across the board. It's fifteen miles to Wisconsin where he works or did work cal Rittenhouse was a a lifeguard there in Wisconsin. And so he cross state line to go to work. and. Young men didn't cross state lines with a firearm the firearm was acquired in. legally in Wisconsin and and there. And the interesting part about all that is Wisconsin wants to charge him. Once they extradite him if they extradite him as an adult. Yet, they say he can't have the tools for self defense. In the State of Wisconsin. because he's seventeen now that's partly ludicrous. It you're saying a seventeen year old in America. Can Join the Marine Corps. Drive a tank. Fire. The main gun out of the tank can can possess sixteen and four. It was in the military but doesn't have the right to self-defence. That's outrageous. And and I've even heard Michael. I've even heard some people in the so called gun community who have said Oh well, you know he's not he's not he didn't Live up to the state laws on guns. Well, I don't know about you Michael I agree with these state laws. I agree with Texas. Laws. On guns. They are horrible on guns fact Texas for a republican state..
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"After the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha Wisconsin, there's riding in the streets. There's there's fires there's businesses being burnt down, and somehow some way some informal militia was formed or communicated. I. Don't know WHO's through social media, how they all got together. But all of a sudden, there are bunch of of guys and I, don't think there were any women I didn't see any. From the videos, I looked at a bunch of is with. The calm long guns at a are fifteen, some had and they were in Kenosha while the demonstrators slash rioters or in the streets and they are protecting businesses. But inevitably, you know it's GonNa happen there's going to be there's going to be a conflict and there was and it was deadly and now a seventeen year old isn't kyle rittenhouse a seventeen year old from Illinois is now charged with shooting three different people. Three different people. He's seventeen years old I mean. Wow But. Let's get beyond and Michael is still with us. Court. TV, Anchor Michael had I think another discussion for another day. Why seventeen year old is there I wanNA. I WANNA save that for another time because that's going to send US A. WE'RE GONNA run out of time because my producers going to give me a rap Q. Right because because that's the way he is. So I want to focus on the law here and the Law of self defense. Okay. Based upon these three shootings and the reason why is I heard attorney speaking and his attorney came out and said, this is a clear case of self defense. So self. Let's talk about it. So cal rittenhouse seventeen years old..
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Bob Lonsberry
"Laws Bury starts now on newsradio of eighty. Thank you very much. I appreciate that Good Morning Americans in hello my friend. It's always a delight to be here with you also delight to welcome chief Deputy Liberty County, Sheriff's Office Dan Rittenhouse Sir good. Morning welcome to the broadcast. Thanks. Thanks for having me. We appreciate your time chief. You guys had a your agency covered a crime at a church over the weekend sir? Yes. Yesterday morning on. Sunday. What happened please well, is. You know early in the act of investigations preliminary everything we have now but would appear that We had some someone or some people break into the Lima Presbyterian church on West Main Street in Lima and started a fire inside the church. Speaking the chief deputy Dan Rittenhouse Livingston County. Sheriff's Office. WHAT WH-? Where's the fire? What did they burn please? Well what they burnt was They started a Bible on fire and and then there was some other additional. Damage done to a pew as well as the floor area right near where the Bible start on fire. The feeling pastor I think post on facebook that it was the Altar Bible and. Now sin do we know was accelerate or something used sir? It's all preliminary right now hard to talk on that we have act investigation going on right now with you know with the case so it's hard to to get into the details of the case but You know. That's what we have so far. We have a Bible that was started on fire and Luckily, it didn't take off and the fire department was able to. Clear the building of the smoke and. So. I really don't want to talk about you accelerator was the was the. Was the you mentioned that it that the appeal is also damaged. A piece of floor was the Bible moved to the Pew Sir or was it up at the altar whereas the Bible when burnt place? Well it was near the Pew. But again, it was moved from the area where it was originally at. But you know I don't want to really get into a lot of the specifics. At this point we do have active investigation going on we're checking the area video. We ask if anyone had seen anyone in the area to please you know contact our sheriff's office at five, eight, five, two, four, three, seventy, one, hundred we took the call. At about nine o'clock in the morning we do believe that sometime overnight was when the fire was we're not one hundred percent. Sure exactly. The timeframe could have even been the evening before So if anyone's seen anyone any anyone in the area that church you know, please reach out to us and We'll get them in contact with the time investigators and You know try to see if we can bring some resolve to this case. Is His chief deputy Dan Rittenhouse Listen County sheriff's Office did you mention the Fire Department came in dissipated smoke? was there was there still smoke in the building the yesterday morning at nine when they when they showed up sir? Yes. Yes. It was still filled with inside the building so that we have heavy damage smoke damage to the to the building but yeah, there was still smoke in the building at that time. that. Helps pinpoint time any right small I don't know how fast smoke dissipates on its own. Yeah and when you get things for smoldering is just gonNA continue to smoke so You know wh what sort of. Dan How's the chief Deputy Winston County Sheriff's office? What What what crime would this be? Well. You can look at If you start something on fire, you have nursing charge they're in a you know obviously with the burning of the Bible you've got criminal mischief, which is destroying property of another as well as if you entered into a building with intent to commit a crime there and you've got a burglary so but again, we don't know this time you know active investigation we don't know if we are if it's Somebody WHO's trying to make a statement against the church? We don't know if it was kids that were in there and you know cause a little mischief and maybe didn't realize what they were getting themselves into. We really don't know. But again, it's back to if you have any information on this or you know anything, you know give us a call again were tip lines a the we tip line is one, eight, four, four LCS. Oh Tip. Again. One eight four four L CSL tip as well as the five, eighty, five to four, three, seventy, one, eight, hundred number, which is the number to the sheriff's Office So we're. We're looking at everything. We had our forensic investigation unit up there and You know photo the whole thing, and we're just trying to piece it back together to figure out why someone would go into this church and start a fire lives in county chief deputy an rittenhouse could the smoke damage raise it to a felony level crimes Sir Well. Just entering into the building a felony level. So if it's a locked building going in so You know I mean. But again, we'd like to know what their intent was. Was it just someone playing with an accidentally started you know or was it someone who is trying to make a statement that we don't know we'd like to get to the bottom of it we'd like to. Try to bring some resolve to the people of Lima and all the people the prisoners go to that church You know they wake up on Sunday morning they WANNA, go to church and. And pray and all that and next thing you know they they show up and they're not allowed into their church so. Visit Lima Presbyterian church listener is there is there any possibility may get motive whatever but could this be a hate crime? Well again, that's all going to be something that'll be developed through the investigation and then you gotta look to see what their motive wasn't at this point where we can't give a clear motive. So it's hard to say whether it would be a hate crime or not, but it very well could be if they were you know out to do something against the church against for religious reasons. The it could very well raised of that and no cameras inside the church there direct standing anything else on this we had no or anything else going on in the county. I know this is something that you know hits home to everyone, and again, if anyone has any information this, please reach out to us and we'll have someone swing by. Talk with your you can leave an anonymous tip on the eight, four, four elsia. So tip line and standing here geno question, and then you may or may not know and is maybe for the other side of the house but with the whole covert thing, what's what's visiting like at the Livingston County jail now sir. It is the house I do believe non contact visits are open Contact visits I do believe or not. But again, now, my area that would be chief Deputy Jeff, Ham of the corrections, Correctional Bureau but I do believe it's just non contact because it's the same standing. Sir Appreciate all the deputies you lead doing. Thanks for visiting with stay we appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for all you do you Betcha it's my honor chief deputy Dan Rittenhouse of the Louis. County sheriff's office have achieved chief deputy in charge of the day all jail and a a chief deputy in charge. What many would call a row patrol So again. That's Lima. Presbyterian church the and this is what I get from facebook. Let me see if the man wrote me back a message here the pastor fellow no there but there is a fill in pastor who went in yesterday a gentleman who I think is retired from her may work at a Presbyterian church in Monroe County I don't WanNa identify him without a permission, but he went down. To to the to lead these people in in in worship, I went down there for church and as they went into the building Lima Presbyterian they which is I looking at the picture on facebook I and I apologize I cannot picture this in my head from being down there but it's a beautiful.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on PodcastDetroit.com
"He do. I get a like a a black licorice. That heavy black licorice but little little peppers feel to it. A little mixture some pepper. I'm kind of getting a little bit of fruit little bit but that that's spice that that doesn't hit you very hard but it lingers as it sits on the edge I swallow it the tongue with the just the the legs that are sitting on the tongue have that yes on the back end of Spicy Ish. Yeah no loitering there nicely. Yes but it's got a it's got a light you know lately. Charred oak feel to it a little bit so in one of the things with any type of Rye whiskey or Bourbon is that you always want to try it neat. We always talk about the trainee. But there you drink whisky hover. You want sure so you just added a little bit of what I just. Threw three drops of water in there. Just kind of opened up a little bit. I meant to do one. Ice Cube shifted still. It's still kind of sitting there. This is very reminiscent for me because I still have a little bit. Loftus. The what for. That's different author low honor and it is it. Yeah it's still have a little bit of Woodford left yes is very reminiscent of what for right for me. Kind of tastes that that same way so but for under twenty five bucks yeah. I don't know if it's a nice drinker. It was stronger without the water in it really. Yeah I liked it better without the water. So you take one hundred proof down a little bit almost. Yeah Yeah Yeah was better before I put the water to drink you. Drink ride the way you want it. You drink whisky the way you wanted to use it. Just don't stop drinking it. I mean that's what most that's what most steelers were telling you. We don't care yeah. Yeah Yeah it's actually it's a it's a good. You're looking for a daily drinker. We talked about that a few times about having a daily drinker so this is a good daily drinker for the price. Yeah Yeah so the the Rittenhouse Pat.
"rittenhouse" Discussed on Inside the Hive with Nick Bilton
"Right and i really think about what they're trying to accomplish here they are trying to protect the same spaces four white people that the starbucks manager was to protect they saying like you know may not be eighteen a one spruce street in philadelphia near rittenhouse square where it's mostly white and you know we're trying to make sure that the space is safe for people who are living in this very ritzy area but they're trying to make the entire country essentially that they're saying it's like we want people who are like us to feel as comfortable as possible and the way that that we see that happening is by making sure that people who we deem criminal people who we you know just assign this label to are are locked away we just tuck them away put them away in society we don't think about them and they think that that they're not really trying to solve crime so much as they are trying to create a new definition of safety when you think about so i i had jennifer palmieri on the podcast a couple of weeks ago who is a bama's white house communications director for few years and ran hillary's campaign and so on and one of these we were talking about a little bit is that that trump was a response that trump winning in many ways was not necessarily because of komi who will get to who you and i both think is a complete and other joke.