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Raiders Week 2 Preview

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

23:01 min | 11 months ago

Raiders Week 2 Preview

"They will try and like I said to bring the right kind of people in here we think that can build championship football team has the most loyal fans in the world I know it hurts that we vegas nation presented by Sdn Sports Mobile from station casinos just when he left and he had trayvon out there he was really targeted really picked on and I am sure the chiefs have been looking at that tape all week and and kind of drooling raiders faced off it was in the final week of the season at Kansas City raiders were only able to score three points but then again they were without a stable kind of run a a huge factor and it's insane that he's a question mark right now and not completely out after the way we saw him leave the game in week one but all right raider fans it's time for another edition of the Vegas Nation podcast brought to you by S. T. N. Sports Mobile Stations Casino I'm Heidi Fang I'm back approach in that they had no run game in that was what I'm trying to say so like if you look at that and then you look at the factor that now they've got online now they've got Josh Jacobs Today a practice we would expect That is a big one because when when the raiders played really well defensively in week one but I think later on as the game progressed going to break down all the details for you but I remember you can find this podcast on Vegas Nation Dot Com download that Vegas nation apt to follow all things silver and black of now certainly there without tyreek hill so that takes one of their weapons away but they've got a ton of other weapons and other ton of other guys that could make plays I think Gary uncommonly is how key is this run game going to be for the raiders against the chiefs and maybe even kind of slowing down the pace if they can keep running the ball taking time off we're GONNA get into a preview here of their game at home against Kansas City this one I think a lot of people are expecting probably shootout on defense that defensive tackle got you know questionable tag on them what do you think right now about the raiders defense the injuries and also the loss a and in the house today we have Adam Hill who reports on the raiders on the skype line we have Mile Simmons who's down in Alameda waiting for the raiders practice to kick the home opportunity against the Kansas City chiefs Miles you know last year when they face the chiefs at home they didn't do too bad the scoring it up forty two thirty three on review journal Dot com slash podcast and anywhere you download your shows from as always leave us some feedback we like hearing from you. I've had a couple of comments that were pretty good lesson raiders lost but they kept in the game so what do you expect from this meeting of the Kansas City chiefs vers- The raiders at home but I think if the chiefs come out the opportunities to go against a depleted secondary of the raiders if in fact Garin companies out and we already know that Jonathan Abrams out well you know the last time the chiefs and the and they do what we expect them to do is probably gonna be really hard for the raiders to win this game especially when you consider the fact that they're going to be missing a it does it obviously his health defected he's going to be okay that's all the most important things but if he is actually able to play which right now they have not ruled them out and there's going to be a further update all you wanNA establish run you. WanNa keep the chiefs chiefs offense off the field those are those are all great philosophies to have those are great things to say then you go into the game and maybe the thing about Jonathan Abraham is he's obviously disappointed he's a guy who definitely wants to play as much as he can possibly play he loves league off of the show that we did on the game recap some WanNa know why didn't support Oakland well I'm a journalist so we're not supposed to like you know pick favorites here but we probably will do picks at the end of the shows the defensive piece like Joff Abram Adam there's a couple of guys that actually you know we have question marks right now on the Raiders Defense Gary uncommonly also correlation this is a pretty big hole left in the secondary losing their rookie safety for the entire year. I believe it was a torn labrum as you discussed in the you guys can get at me again if you want about who I picked who I didn't but first of all the raiders are coming off of a win again twenty four sixteen against Denver at home now they get another football and I think it's very disappointing to him that he has to be able to miss the rest of this rookie season and I it's funny Jon Gruden said it and I think he said Wednesday you got to speak with him and just mentally where do you feel like he's at and how is this injury going to affect the team yeah I think what's best for him in his career long term so this is really going to be redshirt year so I think it's going to be interesting to see how he handles it interview and it's going to be about five to six months so what can you tell us about the interview that you had yesterday with Jonathan Abram today being Thursday so ice and then they get a touchdown and then all of a sudden you can't run the ball anymore it's well and good to say you want to establish run you want to have a run game and I think the raiders can but you've also got to make sure you convert on those you've got to find a way to not justice that was run you've got to be able to put points on the board and not let the chief score on the first couple possessions we saw last week I mean the Jaguars hung around away from Kansas City having the ball in their hands and giving it to you know a guy like Patrick Mahomes we've mentioned is so dangerous Adam well yeah I mean certainly you wanna run Taber unlike miles just touched on Jonathan Abram obviously is huge you don't want to have any question marks on the secondary at all when you're going into a match up against the Kansas City chiefs in what they can do from an offense let's stay on our game plan but then all of a sudden you see that chiefs offense and everything's out the window so miles you had the opportunity to speak Jonathan Abraham we've touched on eight here a little bit but but the chiefs scored right away it was three plays into the game they score and all of a sudden you're chasing again so you want to have that game plan of run the ball slow them down player defense have an injury that could possibly have been you know in the olden days career ending this episode of Vegas Nation will be right back that's something that tells you hey you know he's thinking about his life beyond football in obviously it probably makes you think of it even more when you have you've got to not only establish around but also score and you've got to try to find a way to slow the teased out because if you fall behind then you're all of a sudden the run game is out again so you've the interview to he probably would play if they were just allowed to if they were allowing him to just take a cortisone shot and then go out there and play you probably do it but that's not last week Adam you talked about the team being able to convert on offense and the ability that they had on third down using Brandon Parker Sdn sports the only sports betting APP you need this season sign up today and get a new sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars yeah I think just from his mental state he's obviously disappointed well let's go ahead and hear from Jonathan Abrahams on his injury when it happened and just exactly in these like kind of heavy sites to set up the run to be able to get these short third down conversions done how much do you anticipate that the raiders might use a similar look in this game with the offensive line when it comes down to these tight third down conversions though certainly miles is all over that You know that part of the of the game plan for the raiders chiefs game and how they plan to use each player well I think the biggest thing is going to be can the raiders actually the time when they brought in that extra lineman they would mix it up they threw on one occasion where certainly the Broncos had loaded the box and assume that they were going to run the ball because they had the out for your first drive and you do establish the run and you do get something going maybe settle for a field goal and then the chief score a touchdown in three plays and then go out and you do something again and it's like oh here's another field did over and over again by Derek Carr because I think he is such a big and physical type tightened How do you see this kind of playing out for the Kansas City sales I wanted to ask about tyrone Williams and Darren Waller they seem to be a good one to hit on the offense for Derek Carr they're really finding tyrel Williams on the the press forward but it's a league scouts and everybody knows what you're doing and everybody looks for tendencies and they're gonNA have to make sure that they mix it up enough to continue to make that work and for you he is going to take some time and start working on classes extend working on classes I think toward getting his Masters degree in Mechanical Engineering so Salaam in there so I think that the raiders continue to do as long as it's working and do other things off of it they've got to continue to mix it up and not be predictable just because they bring you know another another Lineman into the game and I thought they did that and I think they'll continue to do that like they've got some things that that they liked that worked and they'll continue is deep passes at forty three yard catch that he had that seems to be something that they've Kinda constructed in working with him and with their and waller he's been just like targeted needed to go forward and and they saw something that obviously other teams will see what the raiders dating tried to adjust to that but I I think the raiders did a good job of mixing up the looks and not just doing the same thing okay you can't just key on one of these things right it's like when Peyton manning used to do the Omaha thing where he was snapping the ball all he had to do was say always going he's GonNa freelance a little bit and he's going to pick off the past so it's going to be keeping the the the chiefs off-balance defensively he's spread the ball around like they want to they were able to do that against the Broncos in that first game and so you know you're talking about how they were using the the extra tackles and things like that I think one of the best things about that was that they threw it deep basically the second time I believe they had the extra tackle and for jumbo heavy he to this Oakland raiders offense to not necessarily keeping the Kansas City defense off guard because you don't want that defense that was third and short and they're able to convert a really long pass down the field to tyrone Williams so that is where you then see to control the ball at keepdriving sustained and finish them I mean those are things that are important of course but particularly against Kansas City you have to keep the offense off the field and the guy that takes a lot of chances he I thought one of the craziest parts of his season last year was yet he made he committed turnovers but I thought the way that he was pointing it out all throughout the game and then we talked about it certainly on the podcast I I mean I think it worked so I think that that's something they're certainly gonNa keep in the playbook and in the game plan and finish the drives and stay you know right in the game like those things are going to be very important they're going to have to find a way to generate a turnover here and there against Pat Mahomes I mean he Maha set and not snap at one time and then that means you the defense just not off on the snap count is so it's the same sort of effect what's GONNA be able to keep the raiders on schedule and on track offensively and using those weapons like tyrone Williams Endemol to get that done i Adam what do you think is the took chances in the way that he took on the field he would commit a lot more turnovers and he didn't but you've got to find a way to force him into some turnovers and and you know change the field position dance to be able to say well we know they're going to tyrol winds because they've got guys like tyrant matthew who know how to be aggressive in certain situations and if he knows where the they were GonNa be and you know not not able to compete with some of the top teams and certainly you know at the bottom of the division along with the broncos there so this would be a massive of anything at home for their next five games straight even though London is a home game like you know when you look at the schedule ahead how important is this win and what are the key you know you re now the other interesting thing he mentioned I thought was else like important thing that the raiders do in this game to be able to bring home another win in their division for those game on they don't have just head to head and and straight up they've gotta find ways to generate as I said turnovers in short fields and those sorts of things it's a really uphill battle but I think it's a all right and you are able to then use maybe you're heavy set and not just you can run it you can throw it and teams know that they can't just key in on one thing that I think is going to be trying to build so I I I think that's what they're trying to look for here and you know I I don't know how they're going to be able to do it I mean you saw last week Pat Mahomes limped off the field miles what's your take on this one. I think this is the kind of game where you might need a trick play right like you might need a fake punt you might need maybe a surprise maybe he's not one hundred percent maybe he gets hurt again that would be helpful for the raiders but it is going to be bill battle no question about it no matter how this game plays out pre up in the morning so you know there's seeing a new iron la so you're GONNA look at my shoulder you know you wanted and flip the field you know get easy points off of those if you want to get a win I it's not going to be easy I don't think it's a game that they can just go out there and just lineup and just beat the chiefs wii down so I ended up I didn't end up getting a clean shot on the banks are fun says he's through so he's GonNa look at it you know another couple of terrorist on the Friday morning and from there it's going to be always do need something special something extra I don't know whether that's like a double pass in the backfield I said maybe a fake punt I don't know what Aj the Rehab process will be like for him loose plan coverage and so I tried to make a break on the ball and it was onside kick if you are the raiders in order to beat the cheese because it's just that kind of game it gives you that kind of feeling because he's like Adam was saying right like you don't necessarily know how good any team is after one week but if the raiders go out and they get blown out by the and not allowing a secondary cars they did last week that was pretty tremendous job by this Oh line and they opened up so many holes in paths for Josh Jacobs to give free and open he's that's GonNa make you feel one way if the raiders keep a close that's GonNa make it you feel another way I think they will probably keep a close just because it's a division game you know this teen no you you can't necessarily surprise anybody too much but at the same time it's going to be this kind of game where you I got in terms of his throwing ability but these are the kinds of things that you have to be able to do in order to beat a team that is considered one of the elite and saying earlier so what do you think as far as the defensive pass rush in this game and will they be able to get to mahomes or even just you know gets tackles for losses the game for the raiders in that if they go get blown out that game last week all of a sudden means a whole lot less relate now okay they denver but they were terrible but the raiders are what everybody necessary I think it was some dominating front seven that was getting to Joe Flacco it also the fact that you know there without Jonathan Abram now they might be without Saks Adam again we talk about people trying to get to mahomes how much faith do you put in Kansas City Aligned to keep them upright or just even if the even here that talk but if they would have to compete and come right down to the end with the with the chiefs and show that they're a threat I think that'd be big for their confidence going forward and and everything what a new look for this team when it comes to the offensive line but on the flip side we have the defensive rush and they were able to last week to get through aim if they're able to win it but I think it would be a huge games they're able to be very competitive and get the game right down to the end I'm not really about moral victories and I'm sure Jon Gruden is not either and I'm sure he'd be furious you have to be able to score touchdowns you have to hold them to field goals if you can't do those things it's GonNa be really really tough to win at think another part of this game it'd be again so I just that was a play where my came up side and so everybody that I was worried about my Emma came off because it actually kind of not lean out of me and home field the game for this well I think we talked about certainly establishing the run and trying to you know not necessarily just run also the short passing game in away oh he's shown the ability to make plays I mean he's he's burned blitzes consistently but you've got at least try to get there and and you know put some pressure on him at some point in the game was unfortunate is us and and you know it's a lot to ask to improve that much in one week but they've got the personnel there they've got they believe scheme there in place to be able to do it it's just they have to be able to Gary colley were not sure on that and how much the secondary kind of transformed after got hurt I think would be a concern if they're not able to hold up coverage for very long I don't think there in the fact that the the the you know the secondary was playing really well for a lot of the game I thought they were holding up their into the bargain allowing time for the pass rush to get there I don't the head coach of the raiders I find that to be a fun fact but then again these were not the mahomes chiefs and both of those to the five and to the two it's not the online mahomes is ability to adapt under pressure get free and like he's even doing these crazy things like no look passes when when he's trying to avoid the yeah hot take mahomes is not Joe flacco I mean that's that's the first thing that you look at here and also I yes we talked about people who are going to be missing from this game were hoping that maybe Garin Conley can play in this game despite that roofless hit that he took to the helmet from you have here miles do you think the raiders can pull this one in at home I don't sorry renovation of I don't see the raiders great a consistent pass rush at on saw in some way whether it's sending blitzes or however they're going to do it they've got to find a way to to put pressure on homes anyone you do when you look at the betting odds sherm shirt people might put some on the raiders and say that they can play close game here but when you look at it as a win or a loss would he to get into this game but as I'm looking at some here's notes against the chiefs that we get you know Jon Gruden is actually five and two in his last six contests against the chiefs in that column in the loss column was the last two so you know when you look at the numbers and the betting odds in this game the password was better they they generated opportunities to get to Joe flacco but I thought the sacks were really coverage based GONNA be able to get to mahomes very consistently and if you're letting mahomes you know get back there and make enough time to make plays you're in for a long night so the pass rush has to be better than it was solo and he's defended three passes and also scored I N T in the couple times he's played against the chief so he'd probably be a big key also in being able people are actually saying this is a good game to bet because I believe the raiders are getting eight am I right autumn it's bouncing between seven and a half and okay so that was the last I saw was eight Sunday the biggest thing would be turnovers and converting those turnovers into points Adams talking about this earlier there there Patrick Mahomes can turn the ball over must want I think it's probably going to be something like thirty to seventeen chiefs at that would be my pick adamant you got on this one away opportunities and then just get the ball but then score touchdowns off of that that's how you're going to beat the chiefs because like I said I think doc all right so yeah hate to keep it consistent here you know sorry. Raider nation as miles go also with the chiefs entre points and that's fine I think that that actually is a good way to win in the NFL Seattle's been doing it for years right but at the same time if you can if you're zone teammate who's now offer the season but you know he recorded he was a big factor in the last game against the chiefs against them total he's recorded seven tackles into the ground and so when I fail on like hyperextended and indigo popping up out of place that'd be came plays and it takes a lot of risks sometimes and a lot of times he doesn't need to because Andy Reid scheme is so good but there are times where he does take risks if you can capitalize on those taken the Oakland raiders forever but we are still later next. I think it's going to be a you'll get an army coming into things I'm GonNa go with a score of thirty four and I'm GonNa give the Raiders Three touchdowns mess I twenty one thirty four twenty one high scoring affair take the over in terms of maybe leading to a victory right so that'll do it for us here on the preview for the Kansas City chiefs and the Oakland Raiders. The chiefs will visit the ringcentral long. You should the raiders come out victorious again Vegas nation is brought to you by and Sports Mobile from stations casino you can find us on Vegas Nation Dot Com the biggest nation at his last five miles. I just wanted to get your final thoughts here on if there's anything else that we haven't discussed that you think that the raiders might be able to do to pull out a w against the chiefs way the raiders are built right now they seem to be built more to play ball control offense than they are to just go bombs away in throw it around the the field and scored atoms at Adam Hill LV RJ at Heidi Fang and for all the guys here thank you so much for listening L. A. Siham on Sunday and we'll be back on Sunday with another edition of the Vegas Nation podcast we'll wrap up everything that went down in that game and then you guys can say we were defense can do what it needs to do get takeaways and then turn those takeaways into points maybe get a pick six maybe you get a fumble return for a touchdown that would be huge Thirty four thirteen O K so I didn't say he was gonNA didn't say he was GonNa win. Oh okay okay anywhere you find your podcast from and of course review journal Dot com slash podcast to give everybody a follow him on twitter. Miles is at at miles asymmetries.

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Raiders offseason moves

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

09:49 min | 2 years ago

Raiders offseason moves

"Hello and welcome to our Vegas Nation podcast. It's been a long time but we are back baby the off season when we're here to do with we're going to preview the twenty eight teams Graf I have the raiders beat writer Michael Jokin in-studio talking about of course the two thousand eighteen and also would John Brunner's done thus far As well Jordy Nelson basically coming in for Michael Crabtree so to speak and the muscle hamster on that okay canes agent he and I spoke shortly following the release being made and his conversations with the raiders outlined seems to be a change in philosophy when it come the staff the front office but look at this raiders Rosser already more than twenty moves have been made since the start of March the twentieth editions I should say with two point eight million dollars they're going to probably spend maybe a quarter of that when it's all said and done look for the raiders to draft a punter before they actually released so all this movement through it all you see a lot of veterans a lot of veterans who are thirty and up coming onto this roster more experience at some critical spots even save some money they I took a good look at this draft class salt was available and felt comfortable moving forward to a younger cheaper option. Okay now some of the additions like to get your take on those Marquette King I'm told rich barrage of the special teams coordinator he went to Texas and before the pro day interview or privately worked out Michael dicks that's not including the releases like Michael Crabtree that was a big move trading Jimmy Amaze all Awali Trading Cordeiro Patterson leading marquette king goat and he wound up with the Denver Broncos you happy to be here every time a chance to be in Las Vegas reminds me that it's all for something in terms of living in Oakland which is great but these writers are coming here and comes to how much money they're willing to spend this year at Hunter Marquette Cain you is fantastic and he was due two point eight million dollars in salary four reason he doesn't like the name okay can I call Mr Martin then okay the muscle I liked the muscle hamster he can't get to me in Las Vegas that's true what are your thoughts go and just gruden's explanation for letting him go well I don't know if gruden spoken publicly about it yet but what I've been told from speaking to win Silverman that's in Him lady him go obviously he's an all pro punter is one of the best punters in all the football and he goes to a team that's in the division what were your thoughts on the fact that they let him on a couple of the guys in the added to the thought Jordy Nelson move was significant for the raiders for a number reasons even looking to move on from Michael Crabtree this is part of what Jon Gruden wanted he wanted some experience guys who played football he felt the right way to really instil type culture he wants in his locker room it's good to be here it's actually when it happened okay all right something else that is going to happen the two thousand eighteen draft is going to happen John Going to put his official stamp on the team before we get to that word of that one for months outside enjoy Nelson enabled the team to do that some will ask what does George Nelson have left on the other side of thirties coming off of an especially additions ever made now you mentioned a few key additions and subtractions won a Lotta people will talk about you here on on blogs and everything else market king productive year raiders say well Aaron Rodgers was hurt for much of that year the broken clavicle Edgar Bennett the teams wide receivers coach now was the wide receivers coach. Then you also privately worked out some other punters including the one in Alabama so before the R- Roy for the raiders were deciding to okay let's move on from market Ken Offensive Coordinator in Green Bay so nobody maybe more well verse in what Joy Nelson can and cannot do at this stage in his career so the fact that Edgar Bennett signed off Lynn is got to be special we have Michael Belkin in studio of course the raiders beat writer all the way from Alameda to Las Vegas my man is good to see Tampa gruden Tampa Blah Blah Blah. I believe he's been in the League for I want to say about six years or so the two years in which he played sixteen games he rushed for more than what what do you think about what coach group has done thus far as far as putting his stamp on the Oakland Raiders it's been incredible he's been busy and that interest him other coaches fourteen hundred yards the other four seasons he didn't reach five hundred yards and so when he's healthy when he's right he's we've seen what

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Raiders bring in Marinelli, Stadium Update

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

39:28 min | 7 months ago

Raiders bring in Marinelli, Stadium Update

"This episode of the nation is brought to you by. Sdn Sports from station. Casinos as T- In sports is the only sports betting APP. You need this season. Sign up today A and get a new sign up bonus about fifty dollars like like I said to Bring right kind of people in here. We think that can Dole Championship football team. He has the most loyal fans in the world. I know it hurts that we might not be the Oakland raiders forever ever but we are still awaiting action. I think it's going to be a bill. Get an army coming into Las Vegas. Everyone everyone it's time for another episode of the biggest nation. podcasts where we bring you up to date on all things happening with the raiders. Set to kick off here in Las Vegas this coming season Vegas nation. Nation is brought to you by Sti Sports Mobile Station Casinos and presented to you by UNTUCKIT. Today we are fortunate to have our full crew of raiders writers Peter's joining the show. I'm your host. Heidi thing and I have in Studio Mile. Simmons and Adam Hill and on our hotline Vinnie. Bonsignore the raiders beat writer. We're we're also going to have our business editor Rick Vlada joining us today. He's going to stop by and drop down an update on the stadium construction. I know a lot of you want to know what's going on there so so we're going to bring you up to date in store also. We're going to talk a little bit about this championship. Game between Ellison Clemson and see who the raiders might be looking at from these teams and we know Raider nation is not pleased right now with. Tom Blurs being passed over for the hall of fame. We're going to get into that. But first we have to get into some of the comings and goings for the raiders There's reports right now. That Brenston Buckner. We'll be like. Oh the Raiders Defensive Line Coach and replaced by Rod Marinelli Vinnie. What updates do you have for us on this as this actually happening For whatever the reason the raiders are Hold off in making it a officially official but it is happening and you know I tweeted and wrote wrote So harsh business sometimes not Any kind of an indictment on uncoached buckner what he did You know and and the strides strides up. The Defensive Line May this is about being able to bring in a very highly regarded and respected coach with a tremendous track record of developing defenses defensive. Linemen in particular Rod Marinelli Guy who has experience With John Gruden they coach together. They WANNA super bowl together in Tampa Bay back in the day When you have a chance to go get a Rod Marinelli You go get him And that's just the way it goes sometimes and and unfortunately It came at some cost a good young coach You know it was kind of kicked to the curb as a result. But he'll land on his feet. He's he's a up and coming coach. There's GonNa GonNa be a spot for him somewhere in the NFL or college football but again hate that it came at somebody's expense but at the same time. When you get a chance to go get Rod Marinelli you go get him? I think it's interesting that you have a guy in Rod Marinelli and obviously he and groom have a lot of history but a lot of times what you'll see in some of these positions where you have somebody with history and you WanNa add them to the staff you just add them to the staff. You might say that Marinelli could have been a senior senior defensive assistant and somebody that could have helped out with Paul Guenther You know in terms of trying to get the entire defense to be better because that's something that Romanelli only has a decent reputation of being able to help the entire defense but instead I mean I think there's no doubt that Brenston buckner did a pretty darn good job with this young group of Defensive Lineman now could you say that maybe you would want a little bit more from somebody like Cleveland Pearl instead of what you got from Max Crosby. Yes but I think that you you have to say it is a little bit of an indictment of the job that Brenston buckner did. I mean I understand how good Rod Marinelli isn't that you wanna get him but anytime somebody gets fired right like it's it's unfortunate and it does say something maybe gruden one at a little bit more from that spot and he didn't necessarily feel like he could get it with buckner and then also Marinelli. I think that I think sorry. Sorry job there but I think the way the raiders are looking at this as they want all of his attention on the defensive line and put They paid a pretty big price at that position over the last year's draft picks And the investments that they've made in some young players and I think they feel good about these young players out you know. Obviously Max crosby showed what he could do with ten sacks last year his rookie year glimpse Cleland Farrell Era You know probably not kind of year. You'd have expected from the fourth pick overall but there's a role that they have You know for him That the ambition him playing But I think that they want more and I think that by hiring Rodman Elliott saying we want all of your focus not as a senior consultant. Not Not as somebody. That's going to have his hand in the entire defense. You know sort of a behind the scenes kind of guru type of position they want him specifically one thousand percent invested in the defensive line. Because that's where it all starts Defensively and they've got some good young players and they wanna Mac those players out they feel like you know he's the type of guy that's it's going to be able to to maximum potential. I don't think this this any kind of a change happens. If a Rod Marinelli wasn't available so that's why I'm saying wasn't necessarily Any kind of a a an indictment. It was more of A. Hey this is a guy that is is is so good at what he does and gives us a chance. Got To get the most out of these young players Unfortunately it's GONNA come. Somebody's expense but we what that guy at on that position thousand percent of his time as far as the numbers numbers go. I was a little surprised. Just because you see the line go from thirteen sacks to thirty two on the season and then the run went from being thirtieth in the League to being eighth in the League so for me. It was a little bit surprising but I do understand what you're saying. I'm just glad that he didn't become the head. Coach of the raiders. Because the last thing I remember is him as goes Marinelli. Was the own sixteen lions. But yeah I mean Bruckner. Brought back the Raiders de and I like the you know even though this is not technically official that he went out to twitter and he made a nice statement he kept things positive he said. God doesn't make mistakes when he decides my time is up. I don't question it. I was blessed to coach a great group Group of Raiders. I had the pleasure of experiencing Raider nation. I'm appreciative for GRUDEN. Blessing me with that opportunity. hashtag faith before fame one. Love no hate when you lose. Maybe more than just a coach. I think it was a guy that was that was like that was a guy that was kind of an emotional leader for that defense and Somebody that the players really seem to respond to react to us. I think even more than what you could lose in technique from a coach which you mentioned the they did certainly improve a lot I I think you lose that kind of emotional Alito kind of see in his in his statement. They're exactly what he kind of brought to the team but in the end clue in rural coach killer. I think that's that's the way we go with already. No that's not what happened. That's not what happened a honestly though I know I know that's not it but it's it's the old old boys club of the NFL. Coaching System at work again. And I think this is maybe not necessarily the topic that needs to be brought up up on the Vegas nation pockets. But it's got me thinking about it enough because now because look look when you look at all. The different coaching hires that happened in the NFL. L. This year you see one minority and that the only guy that was hired was Ron Rivera. And so you have a guy like Eric B enemy who's in Kansas City in who by all accounts terrific job doing what. He's done there without offense and he only gets a couple of interviews and honestly they seem like they're rooney rule interviews instead of being the kind of interviews where you say all right look here. Here's what the Peop- the person who has been the offensive coordinator for Andy. Reid has done last right. You look at Doug Peterson. He's already want super bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles. You look at Matt Nagy and yeah the twenty one thousand. Nine hundred wasn't so great but I think Adam Hill would probably blame that mostly on Mitchell Autry. Bisky did take that team to the playoffs in his first year. In Twenty eight now Eric Vietnamese the SA- the same position you can see him. Calling plays is on the sideline and I think that Andy. Reid is made up a point to make sure that it be enemy. Is doing those kinds of things. Andy Reid standing next to him with nothing and then like he's probably not too happy to give the full menu to Eric the enemy but like I think that there's a point that he's trying to make their and so we look at those kinds of things. When you see somebody like Brenston Buckner who did a good job at what he was doing? He improved that defensive line and then Romanelli becomes available. And it's like Oh man. That's it's my buddy that I think is why you start to see some articles that come out and reports of African American coaches feeling like well. I just need to go to college because I'm not going to have a shot at doing what I wanNA do in less. That's where I go in it. I think that they have legitimate argument as to why they should be upset. I'm I'm with you at thousand percents On that visors. There's no question about it. But I also believe that there are situations that are unto themselves they transcend that and I don't think this is a case of the old boys club necessarily a really good coach who has a tremendous track record specifically at that position in that right side of the ball I mean he was defensive coordinator and defensive line coach of a really good Dallas cowboys. Defense and defensive line And that's you know beyond everything else that he's done in his career and he's also you know Adam talked about it in emotional leader. There's no more of an emotional eater than Rod Baron. Elie ask any of the players players that ever played for 'em they'll run through a brick wall for him. He's wired that way he's got that kind of mentality that fiery mentality That that that really resonates with his players. It's it's not just technique it's not just fundamentals is not just as he gets into the heads of players and they want to play hard for him. So there's no question region about that so. I don't think that this is really an all boys club. There's plenty of coaches at Jon. GRUDEN has coached with over the years that you know are on his staff or he's not reaching out to. This was a very specific type of coach that he respects. Obviously that has a great track record at position that they really want to maximize with all the You know the money they put into this position so I just think that this one while I'm with you entirely on the bigger issue of minority coaches the lack of opportunities that are that are there for them. I just this. This one is unto itself. Well a minority coach. Who did do well for the raiders? It was just recently passed over for a hall of fame nod. Tom Flora's a two time superbowl winner. Coach also player not many people. I think besides hi. It's Mike Ditka and Tom. Flores were coaches assistant coaches head coaches also players. That were able to accomplish that yet. Tom Flora's passed over. Refer a hall of fame not yet again We were able to see bill. Cower and Jimmy Johnson get inducted and this year only two coaches. We're going to go in on the season season though eight. Were finalists for the centennial class for the hall of fame a Lotta Raider fans had expressed their outrage for this thing that you know Tom Floor is eighty the two years old guys that have been passed over like cliff branch who have passed now and would only be able to receive that type of honor posthumously. So it's it's something that you look at now and you have to wonder like we'll Tom Floor is get into the hall of fame before he does pass on which is unfortunate thing to say but it's true and you have to to look at this because he's been denied into the hall of fame. I believe this is the second time so it was another time where he was as well and it was just like so you know. Is this going to happen for him. Will he ever get the nod Miles what was your reaction to this outrage and Tom Floor is not getting that non you know I think this this is the kind of thing that's unfortunate because when you ever you talk about to me okay. People are going into the hall of fame. Then who would you take off right because this was the the special class they WANNA do. Twenty twenty and then the centennial class. Of course because the NFL has reached one hundred years so basically. You're you have to make the argument humint than that. Either Jimmy Johnson or bill. Cower should not be in the hall of fame. If you would want Tom Flora's to replace them. And I think the unfortunate thing is maybe they should have just said. Look we gotta get more people in there and not just have it twenty for twenty. Maybe we should've expanded this a little bit more so that that were honoring people who deserve to be honored and so that that's where I think it. It's sort of tough because I understand that Tom. Flores should be in the hall of fame. I absolutely think that he should be in the hall of fame. But I think that there's also arguments to be made the Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cower should be in the hall of fame so the argument with Johnson. Okay I mean I would Florida's I mean I that would make the argument against Bill Cower. First Yeah Yeah exactly I think I think to Johnson deserves to be in there for those of us. That are old enough to remember a The turnaround job that he did with the Dallas cowboys and it was him in charge. I know that Jimmy Jerry Jones also had a hand in it but they came from the depths of Hell The Dallas cowboys dead with shrewd trade of Herschel Walker. That was Jimmy Johnson. Had his fingerprints are all over that he turned that program around it wasn't just coaching. It was personnel decisions. It was bald. Trades It was great drafting So I don't know that that you could say that Kaur at that kind of a role in Pittsburgh but Jimmy Johnson certainly did with the Dallas cowboys. And there's other coaches Dick Vermeil. Dan Reeves Mike Holmgren. I mean these guys. There are a lot of worthy coaches coaches. You know that that if you WANNA use the word snub I guess You know that that got overlooked it again and it's just a tough one because of the way the numbers work got the way the system works out the way the voting goes and everything like that and the constrictions at your under as a hall of fame voter so I don't know what the answer is. Maybe you do expanded a little. Somebody brought up quite nephew closed off low at maybe less people. So that guys like you know Kaur who was a a good coach but was he a great coach. I don't know in my opponent. Houses the guy the guy coach what nine years and he had of course those great seasons in Dallas and. That's we all remember him for the turnaround after starting one in fifteen his first year Turning around and winning the way did and then the the the unceremonious ending to his tenure there and we all remember that but you know he was okay in a couple of years of Miami. It's not like he had the longevity that I think usually look for. How many goats? Well but Tom Afford has the the history behind him Of of what he was able to do as far as winning as a player coach head coach Being the first Hispanic all the things that he did that that I think are historic over. Necessarily what Jimmy Johnson. which I think Jimmy Johnson was a flashy coach? A guy that we like remember as having all the success and everything. I don't think I don't think Jimmy Johnson is completely unworthy. I think it's a fine selection but I think we're GONNA make the head to head to head comparison there surly a case to be made for floors. And you're right. Cower cowers well you can make the plus minus arguments there But I I just felt Jimmy. Johnson's Johnson's selection was more fame. Necessarily than than you know a CO coaching careers. You look for for a hall of Famer. Yeah I look completely different over over him and coward because I just remember what he did you know is a historic franchise. Obviously The Dallas cowboys. So yeah there's some flash in there and his personality certainly certainly help But but restoring the Dallas cowboys the way he dead and and so much of what of that of that restaurant should was his doing I mean if you remember the hersal Walker Trade The impact that that had in the shrewdness of it and how it you know changed their fortunes and and not just to make that trade but then to hit all those draft picks and I mean there was that was a tremendous team that he put together and so so for me. I think he's more than than than cower. I'm not saying that I do believe how floors deserves to be in there. I think Dick for mill deserves to be in there. I think John Kerry the album. He changed the game. I know he didn't it. Didn't translate into Super Bowl wins. Don coryell was a hell of a football coach. Who guys are still using using things that he came up with You know when when when he was in Saint Louis and when he was in San Diego so the impact he's had on on the game itself In in the direction that it went yes he doesn't have the super bowl wins like I mentioned but his impact on the Games is still felt to this day. I agree with everything you said. I'll just say this one one thing if it was not Dallas. Would he get in in. And should that matter. America's team I don't know I mean it's the hall of fame you know so there's there earthern that word fame so I think that it obviously helps just like it probably helps you know Derrick jeeter with the with the Yankees if he was on the Seattle Mariners would he be in the hall of fame You know he was. He was fortunate to be part of a team. That had the resources to be able to build around immediate singularly lead the New York Yankees Danny kind of a championship. That was a team effort and a lot of it was because they have the money to have the resources to be able to draft the way they did sign international three agents the way they did sign in regular free agents big big trade. So I don't know I don't know the answer to that. Probably not but there's probably a whole bunch of players that we could talk about the history Sports that benefited from where they were all right on that note. We'll go ahead take a quick break here and when we come back. We're going to get you updated on all things happening with the stadium idiom so stay tuned right here on vacation this episode of Vegas Nation. We'll be right back ever see untucked buttoned-down. They look bad. Why right because they weren't meant to be worn that way? Thankfully there's untuckit the original button-down shirt actually designed to be worn untucked. No matter your size or shape untuckit Richard will always fall at the perfect untucked blank. 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With Mile Simmons Adam Hill in studio and Vinnie Bonsignore. Where is on the line and right now we have an update for you from Rick Vlada who spoke with us a little bit earlier about the current status of the stadium? And will it be done on on time. I know that's a big burning question. So let's go ahead and get the update from rank as promised joining us now on the Vegas Nation. podcast we have Rick Vlada in-studio in studio and he is going to bring you up to date on everything that's happening with the stadium because I'm seeing on social media right now that a lot of people are concerned particularly about the roof. And I'll tell you. Rick is our assistant business editor here at the paper and he is on top of all of this. He is in the know with the stadium. He knows every detail every rivet of this place so tell me right now. How concerned Raider Fan should be about the stadium roof and any delays that? It may cause for the opening of the Stadium Stadium. Well I I think that That there is a certain level of concern because this was a project that they had said they were going to deliver. Last August he got pushed back back to September and then it got pushed back to November then it got pushed back to December. And now we're hearing that it's going to be pushed back to mid may well if the stadium is going to open July alight thirty I is. Everybody says it's going to to open. Then that's cutting it pretty close in terms of getting this accomplished in time so you know that's that's one concern. The other concern is that It's it's it's a lot of different projects that are going on at the same. Mm Time if the roof is not enclosed and it rains it could damage a lot of the things that have already been done. which that's that's another big worry? Okay so those are the things that they're going to be watching an kind of concerned about in the months ahead and when we talk about this stadium and you bring up in a lot of people. I think don't really understand that Las Vegas has a monsoon season at the end and football season. The start of it and you're looking at the preseason. That's Kinda prime monsoon soon season so I can understand the concern there. A lot of other people talk about the parking situation We haven't really updated anything here on this podcast. Essence you were last on about the parking situation so I believe I have heard that some areas getting bought up in that there are going to be spots around there. What can you tell us about the parking as fans start to make their plans to come to games here in Vegas? What will the the the raiders have expanded the number of lots that they have acquired? I think they're now up to six or seven different different places. Where you can park and then get shuttled into into the Games? So it's now a matter matter of working out those details like which. which lot should I park in? If I'm going to be seated in this particular area. What areas are going to be most conducive induces to tailgating I it's those types of details that I think that People are looking for answers on because the capacity is not not a problem anymore. In light of the fact that they've got all these different Lots that had been purchased. In addition the raiders are kind of expecting that most of the people who will be attending these football games will either be staying at resorts on the Strip and can walk or they can take mass transit to to to the to the site and then of course there's always the the uber lift Option as well so as far as finding a place to park. I don't think that's going to be a concern It's just a different way of going to the stadium. I know that you have been to the stadium in Minneapolis. They don't have any parking the on site and it seems to work out okay with them and they haven had a super bowl there. So it's not like this is a The first time this has ever happened and the the raiders are looking in terms of this being a different experienced getting there and he wants to be a good experience helpfully. They'll find someplace to tailgate aside from. I'm in the hotels because his hotel isn't gonNA offer too much space for them to do that. But it's part of the whole experience I had heard that there was some promenade. That my turn up around the stadium that may be developed. But what do you know about who were there. There are a lot of different proposals and ideas. That are out there. And they haven't really been fully explained to to what's going on. I have heard that the raiders are of very conscious of the fact that they want to have a very good tailgate gate experience and thus they've got some plans in the works that they have not unveiled yet. They've talked a little bit To to some people who have been covering that off the record in in terms of what they want to talk about so I feel I feel like I can't really disclose what some of those conversations are but at the same time They're very very conscious of the fact that they want it to be a good tailgate experience and it sounds like what they've got planned is going to be something that the fans are GonNa look forward to okay so on Thursday which his today actually as podcast is being recorded We will have a huge meeting. Where the Raiders Stadium Authority will meet and again Kinda track all the different tasks that have to be done now as I read in your article there are forty forty one thousand only forty one thousand individual task right right now Someone schedule some behind. What can you think of Aside from the roof right now they may be kind of key things that really need to be attract on time that are on this. I know it's forty one thousand things but what key things can you think of that. They may be discussing in in a lot of respects. What they don't need to get done is maybe more important list and among those things that they're going to do is back in the house stuff so things that the fans don't even see see and they don't even really care about those are going to be wait they're gonNA wait on those? Incidentally even though they get a temporary occupancy permit to move in on July thirty first I. They're really not going to be done with the stadium until October. That's something that they've set for all in all along. That's part of their plan Among among some of the other things that are not going to be done this stadium's GonNa have four Locker rooms they're only going to really need two of them Immediately for the the raiders and for the visiting team so those other two locker rooms are probably not going to be finished right away Those are in place for for other teams had come in for for example. If you have a final four you're gonNA need four locker rooms so it's not really essential that they get get those done right away. They're certainly going to have everything that's in a public setting a completed they're gonNA have all the concession stands done. All the seats installed called They want to have all the mechanical stuff that will that will be in good working order. So those are the things that are going to be most important for them to get done And some of these other things that can wait they will wait. They just won't finish them right away. Okay as we wrap things up here give me the level of completion that you expect. This has to be at Probably let's say by July which is when they're supposed to have an opening July thirty first so if you have detractors attracted to the first of July how much percentage of the stadium will actually be done. Do you think by what you've heard I would just guess ninety ninety five percent completed And again those those Those last few items. That don't have to be done won't be done And all the public areas will. It'll be I think that the most important thing is to To to keep it safe make sure that field is in place Obviously that's a big component of the of the stadium. The the the field trae that moves in and out there already underway on that there were got the high doors pretty much done so so a lot of that is A lot of the really important things are are complete is just had roof that makes people worried because that is the key and and and there's a lot of important physics that go into how you put that roof in place People that are smarter than me can probably explain it better than I can but at the same time the fact is is that they have five engineering companies. That have come in and have reviewed how to do this and and it sounds like they've got a pretty good idea on how they're going to put in place and it's going to take some time to do it and again it's just the cable net system system that supports the translucent roof. That is kind of the concern right now whether or not it's going to be able to support the actual right. Wow all right so we will bring you in much more rick as I think we lead up to July. Maybe we'll get a monthly update going for the fans here That way we can keep them up to date on all all things happening with the stadium as well we. We certainly appreciate your time today. And can you let everybody know here where to find you on twitter. Sure I am at at Rick Vlada. RIC KVIL VIDEO OT TA and he will always be out there tweeting. He's a madman. If you follow him. He's got all these meetings. He's always up to date. He's giving you the play by. I play for everything happening with the stadium. Here allegiance stadium. Las Vegas expecting at all to be done by the time the season starts and preseason season obviously in August. So we'll keep it. Keep it tuned right here. Everybody and we'll be back with more here on Vegas nation again. That was Rick Vlada. You can can find all his stuff here on review journal Dot Com and give him a follow as well on twitter to keep up to date with everything happening on the stadium as we mentioned in that interview There is a big issue right now as to whether or not that roof will get up on time. Will it. Cause any damage to anything in there and also how. Much percentage scented of the stadium. We expect to be done. There is a meeting happening very shortly here. On a Thursday that will bring some more information to light. We hope Vinnie. I believe you have some information on that as well. What can you tell us about your knowledge of the stadium? Update US there. Yeah and you know not a construction worker So well I don't have all the technical aspects too but what I can say is that I have been assured the highest levels of the raiders. That everything's GonNa be fine. It's going to be Completed in time to host the to play out the playoff games. The two preseason games who knows off off the bus before the playoffs they gotta host a preseason game in October is usually when they when those games get played they may have. I have to start on the road for a couple of weeks in preseason Not all that unusual. But but I haven't told that everything is fine It'll all be explained nine. I think this is a lot of construction type talk. That construction people are very comfortable with in in in saying that it's it's GonNa be okay and and the stadium will be opened in time to to host the UNLV. Eddie place cal in late. August the raiders will be able to host their preseason games of the regular seasons are going to go off as scheduled. There's no talks with Oakland and there was a report about there. Were some contingency talks with in. That's not accurate whatsoever. So ever so I'm interested to find out the INS and outs and the exact you know technology that they're going to explain a meeting. The raiders But again from everyone that I've talked to the highest levels of the raiders. Everything is scheduled to be completed. It might be a different little order in terms of when they get to certain things things but the completion of the stadium will be done in time to set to host. What's already on the schedule? What's going to be on the schedule? And that's the do preseason games. UNLV's game against cal. I thought the venue is due to open July thirty first. The first event scheduled for August sixteenth has been you mentioned there and as we look ahead to this twenty twenty season. Something I thought was interesting about. Last year's draft was mayock had picked a lot of guys from the championship game four to be the exact and this year's championship game between Lsu and Clemson made me start thinking who will the raiders pick in these top. Let's say a five. I pick that they have because they do have five picks in the top hundred There are few guys I think that stand out and I wanna see if you guys are on the same page with me particularly really I was interested in looking at Clemson's Isaiah Simmons. I think he's a very unique player. He's got a lot of strengths. He plays a safety and linebacker. They're kind of a fantastic last name. uh-huh wonderful last night over sayings overrated. Okay saying the last thing is overrated. Also say if the raiders are planning on taking him they're they're gonNA have to package twelve and nineteen move up to number three To the guys go the guy. You never know with quarterbacks. In the way that they're gonNA fall and and how many people are gonNA reach and trying to get quarterback quarterbacks he's probably one of the top three or four players in the draft so yes he would be a good fit. I think he's a great player. But that's going to be tough with the draft. Picks that they have for him to try to fall there and another guy that stood out. I it played alongside of current Raider. Aj Terrell He's somebody who played with Trayvon Molin they played alongside each other in previous years. So I don't know if that's somebody that you guys think that. Maybe the raiders. Look at as well to have somebody somebody who's already had experience with another player chemistry wise that would be something that might spark their interest. What do you think of any I if you stay at twelve and nineteen I think. And let's presume that Derek Carr is the quarterback they roll with Next year I think you've gotta go linebacker or wide receiver at either of those two spots. And I think that if you can lock up You know a dynamic wide receiver. That offense is ready takeoff. I believe it's short a dynamic wide. Receiver we've talk about Antonio Brown and what that vision was that visited. Vision does not change going into this off season if they can acquire somebody that can take a top off of defense. Draw attention Opened things up you know for for you know your Darren Waller's your Josh Jacobs Your Hunter Ren froze It just makes it just makes the offense that much veterans on the verge being pretty good They need to try to bring in that dynamic number one wide receiver. So that's the direction that I would go if you're not going to take a deep look at these quarterbacks linebacker backer or wide receiver. And there's a whole bunch of great young wide receivers. I think somebody will be there at twelve That could be a game changer type and I think that you know at night in there will be ah a linebacker that day. One starter You know as well enough. And let's not forget they have seventy million dollars or so to spend in free agency and there's there's some players You know that that that they can bring in that can make an impact right away. I like Cory Littleton for the for the rams when you look at the raiders defense there in the inability of their linebackers to to to Provide decent pass coverage was really glaring in the first couple of games that uncovered you decide patterns across the sharp middle of the field where linebackers they attacked their linebackers. Two two opposing opposing teams to great success. So a guy like Cory Littleton is really proficient in that area. As a three down linebacker able to provide pass coverage rush the passer to stop the run so I would think that they were going to make a move in that direction. Somehow some way in free agency as well so for me you gotta look at wide receiver and and and a Making linebacker at twelve nineteen. If they're not looking to make a change at quarterback so from this game just just this game. 'cause I know there's a ton of guys like you said at wide receiver debt Do you think that any of the wide receivers might interest them. Maybe somebody like March Chase. You know he had a good game team in the championship. Game from L. Issues. So I was just wondering your thoughts on this game. If Mike Mayock is putting on the same hat he did last ear and getting Cleveland Farrell and getting a Trayvon Molin. Is this something that he does again. This year in looking at the death of these two teams miles. I think there's a lot that you can look at with. The Way Clinton competed with the way that LSU competed. I think a lot of people talking about the weapons that Joe Borough had and I think it's interesting because I know that the guy sitting to my right things that Joe Borough is going to be a bust when when he makes it to the NFL based on the phone playing in such a great offense boy. I know I don't I don't get it but to be clear I'm talking about Adam Hill Sir but I think when you look at just the way that things went in that game. I mean a Jess Joe. Borough has a lot of good weapons ends in yes. He's playing a good offense of system. But I also think that you know if I think if you're most teams and if you were the raiders. The raiders are not really going to have this chance because I don't don't think there's any chance. Cincinnati doesn't draft. Joe Borough but if you I think have you watched the totality of the season and understand that Joe borough played in a really solid offense and then had had to do a lot of things in terms of ball placement and making sure that he had a good pocket presence. I I think he would be still the number one targeted guy off of a lot of guys draft boards. But you know like I said he has really good weapons. So if you're talking about why receives yeah you can look at both sides and say man. There are a lot of good wide receivers that one could pick and then improved their team. LSU has always had great weapons Yup just look at all the Lsu wide receivers and play in the NFL. Provide Joe Borrow was was able to elevate even those type of players And that's why they won the national championship and arguably arguably the Best College football season of all time. The quarterback is pretty good over there. And he's going to be the number one second yeah. I don't suspect that he's going to be a anybody's best raiders at least have a one little piece of that. LSU powerhouse. That's foster moreau so tight end but I'm sure they're looking forward to his growth as raider in the coming years but that is all the time we have here today on the Vegas Nation podcast. We appreciate everybody out there listening. This podcast is presented to you by. Sdn Sports Mobile by station Casinos Keep up with US weekly as we will be here every Friday for you with refresh episodes keep up with it on vacation dot com download the Vegas nation APP and find the podcast anywhere that you're listening and just hit subscribe on it. 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Raiders 2019 Draft Picks

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Raiders 2019 Draft Picks

"The event got it can't wait I've been training my body for the last three years and I'm definitely ready to step into that role played record win and we have one hundred there's probably some hyperbole there one thing that really stood out from our conference call with for all is just the personality you can see why a team such as the raiders a someone who's overcome that personal tragedy to then become a leader of the clemson defense to become a national champion Mike Mayock was at the National Championship Game Santa Clara of this January when it was Alabama versus Clemson and not the tip are handled a little bit we're going to talk about Alabama guy and a little bit of all over the guy he's got captivating story somebody who hails from a military family his mother served in Operation Desert Storm Likely to trade up district in the first round but to number four That was a surprise no doubt about it all the names that were end raiders filling the void there that we expected but maybe not the name people expected when Michael What was your take when you heard that name selected good job keeping their guy out of media's grasp and I liked what he had to say about his top thirty day when he came out his meeting with quarters for the Raiders Michael a Lotta names came off the board for the raiders three in fact and I was a little bit surprised when we heard the name Cleland his father was in Vietnam multiple tours there passed away when furrow is thirteen years old and so it's just you know you see the Jon Gruden he said Jon Gruden was like runny what was that whole story he told about Gruden and coming out during his top thirty day he visited the raiders this month I know how much Mike mayock liked him you know how much the raiders liked him in so credit Mike Milkin Jon Gruden a couple Saudi X. media guys who did a pre her and my mind as to who the raiders take a number four I mean at all Oliver Quinn Williams if he was available he wasn't I didn't Sigh Josh Allen as process so it's different than like saying Will Ferrell or for Rome like Scott Ferrall so it's a little bit different to pronounce but selected defensive the all lied to US everyone it's time for another edition of the Vegas Nation Podcast I'm Heidi Fang joined with Michael Belkin as the number four overall pick in the NFL not a shock that he's a raider but a shock that he became a writer so soon he was somebody who was thought to go mid I senate is a late night here on Thursday the NFL draft has just concluded a Michael and I are sitting in the cafeteria of what is the Oakland Alameda had in early in April and he didn't really get a chance it sounded like to see or really talked Jon Gruden because apparently was on the elliptical for three hours for all and that is how we pronounce his name we had him on a conference call somebody asked that is how you say it's like Cleveland and then for like a but furrows on the field and he saw the way that he led and over the draft process talking to other clemson players and people are Clemson just the way that furrow was characterized it just wasn't on there and yet I you credit a Mike Mayock the general manager was Mike Mayo circle around a little bit to an area described about furrows background because I think it applies as well to Josh's NFL network analysts whose posted a mock drafts for everyone to see we're probably would be surprised that for all went in the top five of the two thousand nineteen NFL draft but We did lawn was necessarily in the raiders minds in terms in being fit you're going through the list and for Emma facilities with Josh Jacobs and something that stuck with me is that Jacob said he tries to style himself after the way he saw markings he chuckled at it so that was I think something that you could see even though we weren't looking at him you could hear it in his voice just the lightheartedness that he has the this is a guy who will be a leader of your defense don't know if he's a superstar there's a reason he was projected in the mid teens or twenties is because he didn't have the he wasn't thought the upside of some of these other guys but from athletic forget as the athletic standpoint for a moment and think just character and production run even the flexing that he does in the end zone what kind of character do we have here with Josh Jacobs coming to the raiders or think I where how many thirteen win for all lost his father will at age thirteen Josh Jacobs is homeless and Alabama this morning I watched on the NFL network actually a package that was done where Mark Ingram was kinda taking this rule through the old album this is a guy who brings to Oakland he certainly has the personality one of the comments he made about his meeting with Gruden was Gruden gave him a hard time about not running the forty character that he has so and like you said with that backstory very interesting and we'll look forward to getting to know him but as we look to the number twenty four pick with Josh Jacobs somebody out of our around maybe in the twenties perhaps he would slip to the raiders number twenty four perhaps they would trade up for him all of that maybe seem less likely because of the draft capital they see ads for the first time he was thirteen so you have to the first two picks the raiders selected in the two thousand eighteen draft one guy lost his father when he was thirteen it would be if he was bouncing around over the course of his life he was he was homeless for a period of time and age thirteen according to an article on the Players Tribune they won't got shot at for the first time when he was thirteen both these players overcame this to become who they are today. NFL players guys who were part of with Jacobs but I think it's important because it certainly was on the raiders minds to get to know these players as people as individuals and gruden breath fantastic college football programs leaders on their respective teams and so again we can talk a lot about the onfield stuff and we will I'll transition that quickly Josh Jacobs these different in that when you're behind you he can still be pardoned game plan marshawn Lynch when you're behind you isn't really because he's not that mm-hmm you want a guy can run routes that's him you want a guy who can pass protect that's him and so the raiders got themselves a versatile running back somebody they came out on today on Thursday although technically at midnight it's Friday Article Jig Jacobs says that he was shot much saying that's everybody in terms of I'm driving this guy and he does and so this Guy Josh Jacobs he can do it all as a running back you want a guy who can be physical that's it a pound of the Rock and if you're in late in the game and you got the lead your two minute offense or format offense rather you're gonNA have marshawn Lynch banging away but we with he's coming in and what do you expect from him right away he's somebody that I think they need obviously because you said like Lamarcus joyner you talked to and you know somebody who markets himself I think as well as any athlete period so he he's going to do this thing and I'm not gonNA handy he wouldn't be retiring he'd be Oakland Raider for the final season in Oakland but they as organization wanted to go younger you can do it albeit three down type of back you can be on the field regardless of situation I heard some people compare them with Marshall really totally different characters were marshawn lynch the this is going to be at for him it's not really been made official but it's been alluded to that he is in fact retiring this was his last season he won't play again he finishes out his ever receiver you transitioned to Jalen shards of the world but Josh Jacobs although Jalen Rashard and others are expected to continue to be involved this is a guy who projects to carry that he won't be back but until marshawn lynch puts it out there himself we'll just have to wait and see all right number twenty seven but we have done at the neighbor he'll get a larger load presuming earns it and protects the football and pass protects like the real thing he can get a larger load in the NFL then he handled Alabama and the raiders are real for the draft that marshawn Lynch will be back with the raiders looked unlikely that he would continue his career thereby and now with the selection of Jacob's it seems pretty concrete about him kind of playing more nickel corner so Jonathan Abram where do you expect to see him yeah you'll be I expect starting safety and secondary right there beside the load and what's also exciting is that he hasn't carried the low before so he's pretty fresh from the wear on tire standpoint the mileage standpoint career and Oakland some town where he's from back in the Bay Do you have any expectation at all that marshawn Lynch may be around for another month or two and he said that he told Josh Josh upset grund told me at the combine he was going to draft me if one of the teams three first round picks and then Mike Mayock told us the bruins not and so he talked about the upgrade from hall slash Nick Nelson at Nickel Corner last season two lamarcus joyner that's significant it then at safety forgo from Reggie Nelson who's probably I think retired speaking of guys who retired I don't think he's going to be in the NFL League to see how you respond to that challenge you mentioned marshawn Lynch and that's something we haven't yet addressed it was put out there that he is looking to wrap things up gave it one way or another but that being said you know if indeed Marshall inches retiring which it sounds like he is if the raiders wanted marshawn back right Carl Joseph you draft a guy like this in the first round you're starting them we always leave the caveat of you know earn it but he's going to have every opportunity to start tragedy in his life to but there's a story there no doubt in terms of where he came from that I'm looking forward to learn so that's that's the thing about this decide you know what I do WanNa play do expect anything like that to happen I'll never try to be in the mind of marshawn Lynch for being around him I as a rookie that goes for Josh Shakeups that goes for of course number four overall pick for all so with Abram he gives the raiders I always respected them

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Raiders Week 2 Preview

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

22:59 min | 11 months ago

Raiders Week 2 Preview

"Vegas nation presented by Sti Sports Mobile from station casinos. We'll try and like I said to bring the right kind of people in here. We think they can no championship. Football team the most loyal fans in the world. I know it hurts that we might not the Oakland raiders forever but we are still reading action. I think it's going to be a they'll get an army coming into all right raider fans. It's time for another edition of the Vegas. Nation podcast brought to you by S. T. N. Sports Mobile Stations Casino. I'm Heidi Fang Dan in the house. Today we have Adam Hill who reports on the raiders on the skype line we have Mile Simmons who's down in Alameda waiting for the raiders practice to kick off off. We're GONNA get into a preview here of their game at home against Kansas City this one. I think a lot of people are expecting probably shootout. We're going in a breakdown all the details for you but I remember you can find this podcast on Vegas nation. Dot Com download that Vegas nation apt follow all things silver and black. We're also on Review Journal. Dot Com slash podcast and anywhere you download your shows from as always leave us some feedback. We like hearing from you. I've had a couple of comments that were pretty good last week. Yougov the show that we did on the game recap someone WanNa know why didn't support Oakland well. I'm a journalist so we're not supposed to like you know pick favorites here but we probably will do picks at the end of the show so you you guys can get at me again. If you want about who I picked who I didn't but first of all the raiders are coming off of a win again twenty four sixteen against Denver at home now they get another home opportunity against the Kansas City chiefs miles you know last year when they face the chiefs at home. They didn't do too bad the scoring it up forty two thirty three. The raiders lost but they kept in the game. So what do you expect from this meeting of the Kansas City chiefs brisk the raiders at home but I think if the chiefs come out and they do what do we expect them to do is probably gonna be really hard for the raiders to win this game especially when you consider the fact that they're going to be missing a key the defensive piece like Joff Abram Adam. There's a couple of guys that actually you know we have question marks right now. On the Raiders Defense Gary uncommonly also corey on defense that defensive tackle got you know questionable tag on them. What do you think right now about the raiders defense the injuries and also the loss of Jonathan the neighbor unlike miles just touched on Jonathan Abram. Obviously is huge. You don't WanNa have any question marks in the secondary at all when you're going into a match up against the Kansas City chiefs in what they can do from an offense perspective certainly there without Tyreek Hill so that takes one of their weapons away but they've got a ton of other weapons and other ton of other guys that could make plays. I think Gary uncommonly is a a huge factor and it's insane that he's a question mark right now and not completely out after the way we saw him. Leave the game in week one but does it obviously his health defected. He's going to be okay. That's all the most important things but if he is actually able to play which right now they have not ruled them out and there's going to be a further update. Today's practice we would expect that is a big one because when when the raiders played really well defensively in week one but I think later on as the game progressed just when he left and he had trayvon out there he was really targeted really picked on and I am sure the chiefs have been looking at that tape all week and and kind of drooling if the opportunities to go against a depleted secondary of the raiders if in fact Garin companies out and we already know that Jonathan Abrams out well you know the last time the chiefs and the raiders faced off it was in the final week of the season at Kansas City. Raiders were only able to score three points but then again they were without a stable kinda running. I'm back approach in that. They had no run game in that was trying to say so like if you look at that and then you look at the factor that now they've got to own line now they've got Josh Jacobs. How key is this run game going to be for the raiders against the chiefs and maybe even kind of slowing down the pace if they can keep running the ball taking time away away from Kansas City having the ball in their hands and giving it to you know a guy like Patrick Mahomes. We've mentioned is so dangerous. Adam well yeah I mean. Certainly you want to run the all you want establish run. You want to keep the chiefs offense off the field. Those are those are all great philosophies to have those are great things to say then you go into the game and maybe you go out for you. I drive and you do establish the run and you do get something going. Maybe settle for a field goal and then the chief score a touchdown in three plays and then go out and you do something again and it's like. Oh here's another field goal is is and they get a touchdown and then all of a sudden. You can't run the ball anymore. It's well and good to say you want to establish run. You WanNa have a run game and I think the raiders can but you've also got to make sure you convert on those drives. You've I've got to not only establish a run but also score and you've got to try to find a way to slow the chiefs down because if you fall behind then you're all of a sudden. The run game is out again so you've you've. You've got to find a way to not justice. That was that run. You've got to be able to put points on the board and not let the chief score on the first couple of sessions we saw last week. I mean the Jaguars hung around but but the chiefs scored right away it was three plays into the game they score and all of a sudden. You're chasing again so you. WanNa have that game. Plan of run the ball slow them down player. Defense Tsk stay on our game plan but then all of a sudden you see that chiefs offense and everything's out the window so miles you had the opportunity to speak Jonathan Abraham. We've touched on it here a little bit but this this is a pretty big hole left in the secondary losing their rookie safety for the entire year. I believe it was a torn labrum as you to discussed in the interview review and it's going to be about five to six months. So what can you tell us about the interview that you had yesterday with Jonathan Abram today being Thursday so on Wednesday. You got to speak with him and just mentally. Where do you feel like he's ad. And how is this injury going to affect the team. Yeah I think the the thing about Jonathan Abrams. He's obviously disappointed. He's a guy who definitely wants to play as much as he can possibly play he loves football football and I think it's very disappointing to him that he has to be able to miss the rest of this rookie season and I it's funny Jon Gruden said it and I think he said it in the interview to he probably would play if they were just allowed to if they were allowing him to just take a cortisone shot and then go out there and play. You probably do it but that's not what's best for him in his career long term so this is really going to be a redshirt year so I think it's going to be interesting to see how he handles it but yeah. I think just from his mental state. He's obviously disappointed well. Let's go ahead and hear from Jonathan Abram his injury when it happened and just exactly what the rehab process will be like for him. Lou Plan coverage to make a break on the ball and it was a play Wii. Forgive me I down so I ended up. I didn't end up getting a clean shot on the backside and I fall into into the ground and so we're not fail on like hyperextended and indigo popping up out of place and place and so dodges that was the play when my came up side and so everybody that I was worried about my Emma came off because it actually kind of nuts out of me and my own feel pity up in the morning so you know there's seeing a new iron. La So you're GONNA look at my shoulder. You know you wanted to bears is. He just basically threw so he's look at it. You know a couple of terrorist on the certified morning from they're just GonNa be now. The other interesting thing he mentioned I thought was that he is going to take some time and start. Working on classes are working on classes. I think toward getting his Masters degree in mechanical engineering so that's that's something that tells you hey you know he's thinking about his life beyond football in obviously it probably makes you think of it even more. When you have have an injury that could possibly have been you know in the olden days career ending this episode of Vegas Nation will be right back. Sdn sports the only sports betting APP. You need this season. Sign up today and get a new sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars last week. Adam you talked about the team being able to convert on offense and the ability that they had on third down using Brandon Parker in these like kind of heavy sets to set up the run to be able to get these short third down conversions done. How much do you anticipate that. The raiders might use a similar look in this game with the offensive line. When it comes down to these tight third down conversions though certainly miles is all over that you know that part of the of the game plan for the raiders and was pointing it out all throughout the game and then we talked about it certainly on the podcast? I I mean I think it worked so I think that that's something they're certainly gonNa keep in the playbook and in the game plan and and continue ready to go forward and and they saw something that they like obviously other teams will see what the raiders dating tried to adjust to that but I I think the raiders did a good job of mixing up the looks and not just doing the same thing all the time when they brought in that extra lineman they would mix it up. They threw on one occasion where certainly the broncos are loaded the box assume that they were going to run the ball because they had the actual Salaam in there so it's going to be a look. I think that the raiders continue to do as long as it's working and I think do other things off of it. They've got to continue to mix it up and not be predictable just because they bring you know another another lion into the game and I thought they did that and I think they'll continue to do that like they've got some things that that they liked that worked and they'll continue to press forward but it's a league that everybody scout and everybody knows what you're doing and everybody looks for tendencies and they're. GonNa have to make sure that they mix it up enough to continue to make that work and for you miles else. I wanted to ask about tyrel Williams and Darren Waller. They seem to be a good one to hit on the offense for Derek Carr. They're really finding tyrel. Williams on these is deep passes at forty three yard catch that he had that seems to be something that they've Kinda constructed and working with him and with their and waller he's been just like targeted head over and over again by Derek Carr because I think he is such a big and physical type tight end. How do you see this kind of playing out for the Kansas City chiefs chiefs game and how they plan to use each player well. I think the biggest thing is going to be can the raiders. Actually he's spread the ball around like they want to. They were able to do that against the broncos in that first game and so you know you're talking about how they were using the the the extra tackles and things like that. I think one of the best things about that was that they threw it deep basically the second time I believe they had the extra tackle and for Jumbo heavyset it was third and short and they're able to convert a really long pass down the field to tyrone Williams so that is where you then see okay. You can't just key on one of these things right. It's like when Peyton manning used to do the Omaha thing where he was snapping the ball all he had to do was say. Omaha aw set and not snap at one time and then that means you the defense just tee off on whatever they think the snap count is so it's the same sort of effect right and you are able to then use. Maybe you're heavy set and not you can run it. You can throw it in teams know that and they can't just key in on one thing that I think is going to be key not to this Oakland raiders offense to not necessarily keeping the Kansas City defense off guard because you don't want that defense wants to be able to say well we know they're going to tyrol winds because they've got guys like tyrant matthew who know how to be aggressive in certain situations and if he knows where the ball's always going he's GonNa freelance a little bit and he's going to pick off the past so it's going to be keeping the the the chiefs off-balance defensively. That's what's GONNA be able to keep the raiders on scheduling on track offensively and using those weapons like tyrone. Williams and Durham all get that done i Adam what do you think is the most most important thing that the raiders do in this game to be able to bring home another win in their division for those game on. They don't have if anything at home for their next five games straight. Even the London is a home game like you know when you look at the schedule ahead. How important is this win. And what are the keys to the game for this well. I think we talked about certainly establishing the run and trying to you know not necessarily just run also the short passing game in a way to control the ball and keep Dr sustained and finish them. I mean those are things that are always important of course but particularly against Kansas City. You have to keep the offense off the field and finish finish the drives and stay right in the game like those things are going to be very important. They're going to have to find a way to generate a turnover here and there against Pat Mahomes I mean he is a guy that takes a lot of chances he I thought one of the craziest parts about his season last year was yet he made he committed turnovers but I thought the way that he took chances. In the way that he took on the field he would commit a lot more turnovers and he didn't but you've gotta find a way to force him into some turnovers and and you know change the field position and flip the field get easy points off of those if you want to get a win it it's not going to be easy. I don't think it's a game that they can just go out there and just lineup and has beat the chiefs just head to head and and straight up they've gotta find ways to generate as I said turnovers in short fields and those sorts of things it's a really uphill battle but I think it's a huge the game for the raiders in that if they get blown out that game last week all of a sudden means a whole lot less relate now okay they denver they were terrible but the raiders are what everybody thought they were. GonNa be and you know not not able to compete with some of the top teams and certainly you know at the bottom of the division along with the broncos there so this would be a massive game aim if they're able to win it but I think it would be a huge game if they're able to be very competitive in and get the game right down to the end. I'm not really about moral victories and I'm sure Jon Gruden is not either and I'm sure he'd be furious even even here that talk but if they would have to compete and come right down to the end with the with the chiefs show that they're a threat. I think that'd be big for their confidence going forward and everything that they're trying. I'm to build so I I. I think that's what they're trying to look for here and you know I. I don't know how they're going to be able to do it. I mean you saw last week. Pat Mahomes limped off the field. Maybe he's not one hundred percent. Maybe he gets hurt again. That would be helpful for the raiders but it is going to be an uphill battle no question about it no matter how this game plays miles. What's your take on this one thing. This is the kind of game where you might need a trick. Play right like you might need a fake punt. You might need. Maybe a surprise onside onside kick if you are the raiders in order to beat the chiefs because it's just that kind of game. It gives you that kind of feeling because he's he's like Adam was saying right like you. Don't necessarily know how good any team is after one week but if the raiders go out and they get blown out by the cheese that's GonNa make you feel one way. If the raiders keep a close that's GonNa make it. You feel another way. I think they will probably keep it closed. Just because it's a division game you know this team. They know no you. You can't necessarily surprise anybody too much but at the same time it's going to be this kind of game where you probably probably do need something special something extra. I don't know whether that's like a double pass in the backfield. I said maybe a fake punt. I don't know what Aj Cole's I got in terms of his throwing ability but these are the kinds of things that you have to be able to do in order to beat a team that is considered one of the elite and I gotta saying earlier you. You have to be able to score touchdowns. You have to hold them to field goals. If you can't do those things it's going to be really really tough to win at think another part of this game would be again and not allowing a secondary cars they did last week that was pretty tremendous job by this. Oh line and they opened up so many holes in paths for Josh Jacobs to get free and open What a new look for this team when it comes to the offensive line but on the flip side we have the defensive rush and they were able to last week to get three sex adam again? We talk about people trying to get to mahomes. How much faith do you put in this Kansas City Aligned to keep them upright or just even if it's not the online mahomes is ability to adapt under pressure get free and like he's even doing these crazy things like no look passes when when he's trying to avoid the so so what do you think as far as the defensive pass rush in this game and will they be able to get to Mahomes or even. Just you know get some tackles for losses. Yeah hot take mahomes is not Joe FLACCO. I mean that's that's the first thing that you look at here and also I yes. The the pass rush was better. They generated opportunities to get to Joe flacco but I thought the sacks were really coverage based in in the fact that the the the you know the secondary was playing really well for a lot of the game. I thought they were holding up their into the bargain allowing time for the pass rush to get there. I don't necessarily I think it was some dominating front. Seven that was getting to Joe Flacco it also the fact that you know there without Jonathan Abram now they might be without Garron. Currently we're not sure on that and how much the secondary kind of transformed after calmly got hurt. I think it would be a concern if they're not able to hold up coverage for very long. I don't think they're gonNA a be able to get to mahomes very consistently in. If you're letting mahomes you know get back there and making half time to make plays. You're in for a long night so the pass rush has to be better than it was us and and you know it's a lot to ask to improve that much in one week but they've got the personnel there. They've got They believe the scheme there in place to be able to do it. It's just they have to be able to generate wait. A consistent pass rush at on in some way whether it's sending blitzes are however they're going to do it. They've got to find a way to to put some pressure on homes anyone you do oh. He's shown the ability to make plays. I mean he's he's burned blitz consistently but you've got at least try to get there and and you know put some pressure on him. At some point in the game was unfortunate. Is We talked about people who are going to be missing from this game. We're hoping that maybe Garin Conley. He can play in this game. Despite that roofless hit that he took to the helmet from his zone teammate who's now offer the season but you know he recorded. He was a big factor in the last game against the chiefs against them total. He's recorded seven tackles four solo and he's defended three passes and also scored. I N T in the couple times he's played against the chief so he probably be a big key also in being able to get into this game but as I'm looking at some here's notes against the chiefs that we get you know Jon. GRUDEN is actually five and two in his last six contests against the chiefs the head coach of the raiders. I find that to be a fun fact but then again these were not the mahomes chiefs and both of those to the five and two the two in that column in the loss column was the last two so you know when you look at the numbers and the betting odds in this game a lot of people are actually saying this is a good game Tibet because I believe the raiders are getting eight. Am I right autumn. It's about to between seven and a half and okay so that was the last I saw was eight. when you look at the betting odds sherm sure people might put some on the raiders and say that they can play close game here but when users look at it as a win or a loss. What do you a have here miles. Do you think the raiders can pull this one in at home. I don't sorry renovation of I. I don't see the raiders winning must one. I think it's probably going to be something like thirty to seventeen chiefs. That would be my pick adamant. You got on this one thirty four thirteen O K so I didn't see who's GonNa win. Oh okay okay okay all right so yeah hate to keep it consistent here. you know sorry. Raider nation as miles go also with the chiefs. I'm I'M GONNA go with a score of thirty four and I'm GonNa give the raiders. Three touchdowns say twenty one thirty four twenty one high scoring affair take the over just his last five miles. I just wanted to get your final thoughts here on. If there's anything else that we haven't discussed that you think that the raiders might be able to do to pull out a w against the chiefs come Sunday Sunday the biggest thing would be turnovers and converting those turnovers into points Adams talking about this earlier there Patrick Mahomes can turn the ball over and he takes a lot of risks sometimes and a lot of times he doesn't need to because Andy Reid scheme is so good but there are times where he does take risks if you can capitalize on those takeaway the opportunities and then just get the ball but then score touchdowns off of that. That's how you're going to be the chiefs because like I said I think just the way. The raiders are built right now. They seem to be built more to play ball control offense than they are to just go bombs away in throw it around the the field and score a bunch tre points and that's fine. I think that that actually is a good way to win in the NFL Seattle's been doing it for years right but at the same time if you can if your defense defense can do what it needs to get takeaways and then turn those takeaways into points. Maybe you get a pick six. Maybe you get a a a fumble return for a touchdown that would be huge in terms of maybe leading to a victory right so that'll do it for us here. On the preview for the Kansas City chiefs and the Oakland raiders the chiefs will visit the ringcentral Coliseum Lesean on Sunday and we'll be back on Sunday with another edition of the Vegas Nation podcast. We'll wrap up everything that went down in that game and then you guys can say we were wrong on you. Should the raiders come out victorious again. Vegas nation is brought to you by SDN sports mobile from Stations Casino. You can find us on VEGAS NATION DOT com the biggest nation APP anywhere you find your co Podcast From and of Course Review Journal. Dot Com slash podcast to give everybody a follow him on twitter miles is at at miles. ACN's Adams atoms at Adam Hill LV RJ. I at Heidi Fang and for all the guys here thank you so much for listening.

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Raiders Week 3 Preview

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

26:37 min | 11 months ago

Raiders Week 3 Preview

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I think in the second quarter of the game I'll say against the chiefs that score twenty eight to ten the raiders lost to achieve that AFC west opponent who they haven't been able to really they figure out but now they had to Minnesota where they will take on the Vikings in week three. This is the start of a pretty brutal road stretch. The raiders will tally about twenty three thousand miles on the road as they had out to Indianapolis the Vikings. They have the bears in London. They have Green Bay. They have Houston a a tough stretch again and Adam. A lot of injuries happened in the last game. We saw guys exit being a little banged up like Josh Jacobs. We saw aw Trent Brown have an issue with his knee. We have the return inch Richie Incognito this week so let's get into first. Trent Brown probably one of the most notable injuries on the offensive line. What if any is the update on him? You're well. We didn't see about air. Miles is up there so we can hear from him but no practice yesterday for Trent Brown was told he had a sore knee so we'll see what that means for his availability and for the rest of the week but I don't think you can really downplay the significance of what he means. When he left the game the other day we saw a couple of sacks real quick order with him not on the field so oh he's very very important to offense of line that has been much improved. Were quite as good in week to week one but this unit is much much better than it was last year but Trent Brown eight major piece of that obviously Richie Incognito is back in that is big for the line although we've talked about this before and we'll continue to see exactly whereas the guy who hasn't played a game in all of all of last season wasn't out there and even though you know he was kind of held up as playing very well at the end of his bills tenure. is a former bills fan. We'll tell you he was nowhere close in two thousand seventeen to what he wasn't two thousand sixteen so you're already seeing some deterioration of his play now. He comes back out after a year away now if he's in a much better place mentally and he says that he is maybe that helps perform form a little bit better but I don't know many mid to late thirties guys that get better athletically by using a year and not being part of a team so we'll find out right exactly where Trent Brown is with his status. There's other injuries as well and WANNA get a report from miles on what was going on yesterday but also an update on Josh Jacobs Cups who was a little banged up but now we find out he is sick and we just learned on his instagram feed just moments ago that he also has lost ten pounds in the last few days from the sickness so that can't bode well for where he is. What does it say if it's viral or something what kinds of sicknesses he said lost ten pounds. I think it was he said something along along lines of crazy a. f. or something like that as the kids would say so I don't. I don't know I'm just paraphrasing. I don't remember what exactly said but he did point out that he lost ten pounds and miles that can't be good going into a football game certainly not. I think you know whenever you see or something like that. It almost makes you in like I. I don't WANNA say make it sound like I'm reporting something but like that's the kind of thing that Sam Darnold was going through with motto right. Oh No you don't WANNA lose you. Don't always ten pounds sounds in that short amount of time. So hopefully you know it's viral innocent something he can recover from but he already was limited during yesterday's practice with a hip hip injury that being hinting Josh shake of so we'll see what happens on we see the injury report today since we're recording this early on on Thursday but yeah I I mean obviously you don't want any kind of injury to your star running back. We are going up against such a quality defense in Minnesota in the exact quote is Ben Sick. Af lost. It's ten pounds and then face Palm Emoji so you know it's serious. When you get a face yeah. It's like the exclamation point generation not good This episode of Vegas Nation will be right back. Sdn Sports is the only sports betting APP. You need this season. Sign up today and get. Did you sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars so miles you were out yesterday when the raiders spoke and Richie Incognito spoke about his return what kind of fiber you getting from the raiders about his return. How excited is Jon Gruden specifically about him getting back on this online yeah I think that they are pretty excited to have him back. I it's interesting because Jordan Debbie did not play poorly at left guard while Richie incognito needed was out but at the same time you want your pro bowl left guard to be back. It was interesting talking to Richie Incognito. Yesterday I think I just from the standpoint he is somebody that has obviously gone through a wad of off the field issues and you can look at his summer of twenty eighteen and that'll tell you like there was some wild things join on their but I think now what he was saying in the locker room yesterday's they he feels like it's good to have everything behind and he's excited to attack what's next in his eyes are only looking forward and so from that standpoint yeah it's great to have him back and I think that really really their biggest goal is going to be candy integrate him back into offense seamlessly especially when you're going up against the Minnesota Likings defense that is extremely good and they're gonna be even better playing at US Bank stadium which I don't know if you guys have ever been there but that place is really you really loud. It's tough really tough offenses to communicate. Are they still killing birds up there all the time. I don't know that's a good question. I it's so I have been to that stadium a couple of times once in the preseason in two thousand sixteen I think when are just open and then in two thousand seventeen the rams played of the Vikings of bear in the I'll tell you what man like it is so loud. It's one of those places we're because the press box is open. You can't necessarily hear yourself think saw oh like as a journalist like that's kind of weird but as a player it's even harder because you can't really communicate the way you're not used to doing it so it's very hostile environment for all offenses players you but who cares what about the. Wi Fi the wifi works the Wifi is yeah yeah. I know well. I mean inside baseball began the first couple of times he'd been in the Oakland Coliseum this year. The WIFI really hasn't worked so that's been a real hardship for us. Everybody feel bad bad for US Hashtag. I should be clearly killing. Birds was not like some ritualistic sacrifice going on in Minnesota not a ritualistic Viking sacrificed. No it's a they made it to stay very bright. no stadium in the birds were trying to land on his flying right into it. It was a disaster at the beginning but I'm not I think they did something to try to fix it so hopefully bird graveyard hanging out there. I have a report here that says February I twenty eighteen that forty eighty two birds on average per season have died heading into Minneapolis as deadliest building yeah yeah so that's a pretty crazy stat and the raiders are putting the same kind of out outdoor mirroring on their stadium so let's hope that doesn't your if you roof roof they will they've got it. They're going to have it in the stadium allegiant stadium. I should say and it also it's so fi stadium in Los Angeles so we'll see it turns out birds. I pray for the birds but let's talk a little bit more about this old line as of this week when it started out on Monday. We're getting reports. Ports like Gabe Jackson could be on his way back a right guard here for the raiders how Kiewit his return to this offensive line. It's going to be huge. You know when they when they get them back. It's it's going to be really really good for them and I think just in terms of seeing the line that they thought that they had constructed. I mean last year was a real weak spot for them. out on the offensive line and they did so much invested so much in the line they brought in in new pieces. Obviously they paid brown a lot of money. they've got you know. Richie incognito in who they were hoping would turn back the clock a little bit they thought that they'd get a whole lot of improvement of cult Miller which they have I mean he's been much much better than he was last year but you know putting all these pieces together and finding out exactly where they were and then all of a sudden you losing cognitive for the Games you lose gave Jackson to injury once he gets back and you can start to see the line that they wanted to have built a that they put money into constructing that is going to I think it's GonNa Change Dynamic of the team but it's also going to tell the team exactly where they stand from an offensive line perspective attractive and and I think that's a lot of what this season is about to but they wanna see those guys work together. They want to see Brown and Jackson Rodney Hudson kind of work together on that side and see what they can do for Josh Jacobs Upfront so I think it's going to be a big step forward like it's not it's not gonNA. Change my outlook of where this team is going to be at the end of the year but I think that they absolutely want to see how that unit functions together and they've been able to do that and miles for you as we look at what's going on outside in the NFL. There's a lot of talk about Jalen Ramsey. jalen Ramsey has been asking for trade the raiders keep coming up in outside kind of rumors and things swirling about about what would it take for the raiders to get Jalen Ramsey on this team and do you think it's something that the team is actually looking to do. I think you have to be you have to explore it right. This is a guy who has been one of the best quarterbacks in the league since he entered the league and you know he even said that he has interest in playing in Las Vegas You didn't necessarily say he wants to play for the raiders. He said he wants to play in Vegas because there's no state income tax. They are which community that's a smart business. Move I suppose but I think from Saint Win of the fact that the raiders have more than one first round pick on the have the bears first round picking their own first round pick heading into twenty twenty in the draft their day could use that draft capital and Gocha Jalen title Ramsey if they wanted to now the other thing that you have to probably do is negotiate contract extension because you're not you don't want to treat a first round pick for for somebody. WHO's just GONNA Walk Right. You have to be able to Siamak guy to a contract extension so I think it's something that they definitely are exploring. All reports have been that in I. I think that it makes a lot of sense for them to explore it. Will they actually get it done. I don't necessarily know if the Jacksonville Jaguars. Why do you WANNA trade somebody to Jalen Ramsey to somebody. Who still in the conference? I don't know that you would necessarily want to do that but you you might non depending on if the price is right so. I think it depends on a whole lot of factors whether or not the reas could actually get something like this done but I think that if they really were motivated to the he could I mean if you get two first round picks that would explain why you would and that's what the theoretically the asking price right now is to first round picks for Jalen Ramsey now now I think what you'd have to deal with and I don't think the raiders care about backlash in those sorts of things but essentially you wouldn't keep Khalil Mack and signed him to an extension but you're gonNA assigned Jalen Ramsey Ramsey too what will be a similar extension and then just give the picks back that you acquired for Khalil Mack. You're kind of just right back where you started in a sense now. Jalen Ramsey is a guy that changes the complexion of a franchise the guy that you can just lock down on one side of the field and use the rest of the ten guys to cover everybody else. he is an elite talent he also has had issues in Jacksonville and listen in this latest one. I blame Doug Doug marrone. I blame Doug marrone grown for a lot of it. I've experienced the full you know. Doug Marrone Hato roller coaster ride up in Buffalo Bills Fan yes and I I would if there's a there's a problem between those two. I know who I put the blame on but at the same time you know that he has been disruptive at at certain times throughout his career so is that the kind of guy you want to bring your locker room. I would say absolutely yes because of how well he can play but you're right. It's another. He has another year in his contract. They the exercise that option that thirteen seven for next year after that is an unrestricted free agents. You'RE GONNA trade for him. It's also going to require extension and it's going to be a massive extension for Jalen Ramsey so there's lots of way. Does he make you a much better team this year. I don't know I don't know how many wins can help add but if you're looking at two three years from now when you're looking to compete he is he's a franchise changing type of player so that's what you have to weigh when you start looking at him and again as you mentioned he he throughout. Vegas on a podcast Rod cast like the Plane Vegas. The tax structure is going to be very nice so there certainly could be some interest there. I just don't know if they're going to give up. Two first round picks to do it. If that remains the asking price yeah I think you would at least have to do one first round pick miles. I like how you're getting to know Adam yeah because you said former bills fan so it's a little over month and you the guy already let's get into this game breakdown of the Vikings and the raiders the raiders again visiting US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis and right right now when you look at this matchup. I think we could be something that's problematic for the raiders is Dolphin Cook. The guy has been an absolute beast two hundred within sixty five rushing yards as of right now three touchdowns. I mean he is somebody that could really chew up the clock. He could chew up the time of Possession Listen I. I think that he's one of those guys as a running back. That's difficult to to stop what do you make of the raiders defense and taking on the Minnesota Soda Vikings and particularly in Dolphin Cook Miles well. I think that Delvin Cook is going to be a problem. The what's interesting though right now it's kind of strength on strength last week you saw the the raiders held the Kansas City chiefs really any washing guards right in day weren't getting anything whether was Damian Williams Shawn McCoy. Did it a really really good job of just stopping the run and you know didn't Patrick Mahomes Patrick mahomes things but at the same time I mean look the rid of excuse me the chiefs in score any points in the second half and while guests near the British right but I think if you're looking at Minnesota you have to start with stopping the run and then maybe after that so you can get to kirk cousins and cousin's tendency to make mistakes now when Kirk cousins is hot he is hot and streaky and he can make really really good throws in. He's got two very good wide receivers in Adam dealing and Stefan digs. You can catch the ball and then also great tight end. Kyle Rudolph can also catch the ball really well down the field too so but we'll get down and cook. I mean dat first game against Atlanta. He was just scorching on the turf man and play really fast on that turf at US is bank stadium. The get is a pretty decent game against Remai- packers last week to they just had so many turnovers that Green Bay was was able to keep control of that game and eventually win it but man I don cook is a problem and then the backup running back. They've got in Madison remembers named Johnson Thousand Madison Alexander Madison. He has basically like a Dalvin could clone. They take they take cook out there. Put Madison in there and it doesn't look any different so both of those guys have explosive running ability and if the raiders can't stop that they're not GonNa win this Game Adam on the flip side. What do you make at the Vikings defense right now against the run they are second in the NFL overall. They're in the top five how staunches this defense defense and how difficult is going to be for the raiders penetrated especially when you got josh. Jacobs right now on twitter talking about having lost ten pounds of mean sick yeah I I mean they've been really good against the run. I think you can look at week one. They played Atlanta. They had a big lead. Atlanta didn't really WANNA run. The ball in Atlanta can't block US right now if we try to go out and play against them so I throw that out a little bit but last week Green Bay had a lead they wanted to run the ball. They tried to to run the ball quite a bit and they just really couldn't get a whole lot going against Minnesota. They're really good defensively in there. we great against the run so far by the numbers but they've also also been really getting into the past they are really really good defensive team and a team that is now building around that a little bit trying to use use of a lot more with Alvin Cook and kind of take Oughta Kirk cousins hands at times and only have him make plays when they really need him too so I think this is just a really really good challenge for the raiders to to go up against and see kind of where they stand right now but we've we've mentioned it. We're GONNA find out about trump route. If you go into this game with Trent Brown did luck. I I just I don't I know what they're going to be able to do either against the run or the past because we saw the pass protection kind of breakdown without him and I don't know how you're GONNA be able to run the ball this team without a guy. That's that important to your team but again. We'll find out as it gets closer to the game exactly where he stands. It doesn't seem to be any kind of long injury to as we heard yesterday a sore knee so that is a big big factor but I think this will tell a lot about exactly where the raiders offense is. They're going to need a couple of things they need a secondary receiver to emerge and who knows with with tyrod. Williams kind of ailing from that hip injury where he's GonNa be exactly so you're gonNA need guys in the passing game to kind of step up in you're certainly we're GonNa have to be able to run the ball and as we talked about Josh Jacobs Ailing Trent Brown ailing. That's that's a big challenge so miles to have any update. Actually Adam brought it up on Tirol Williams uh-huh they. I've read that he wants to go but do you think that he is ready to go well. He was practicing yesterday so I mean. I don't necessarily know anymore more than you guys. it's been reported right. I mean because that that was off the injury report yesterday and unfortunately we didn't get to see stretching portion of practice. 'cause I think they canceled. It probably took a they made it a little bit of a lighter day. It was actually raining here yesterday. So that was probably part of it and then also you had I think they backed off a little bit in practice so you did have tyrone Williams who was limited. Derek Carr actually said that he took most of the reps regardless so we've got a little bit of incongruity congruity when you have like that limited on the practice report and they like their cars taking all these reps so I don't know what that means but I think when you have Williams's is practicing we'll see if Josh schick practices today. That's that's going to be an important factor but I think the biggest concern at least for me right. I'll be Trent Brown because he did not practice on Wednesday and whenever you're not practicing it started the week. Sometimes that can be okay. He's a veteran. He knows what he's doing but if that continues continues into Thursday and Friday that is something that you would you would be concerned about and I think you know we've talked about it a bit earlier when it comes to the crowd noise and different things like that and that defensive line for the Minnesota Vikings is so good you need. Trent Brown in this game and I mean we saw last week. Insurance Brown goes out. You'd get packed backpacks on Der Cards. Not It's going to be that kind of game. Would they're going to bring pressure on. You and it's going to be hard to communicate. UK because like we said that the environment they're so loud so do you need trump around to be available if you can go all right. Let's get into the picks for the week. Last time the raiders face the Vikings it was November Fifteenth Twenty fifteen in Oakland Final Score Vikings thirty raiders fourteen. I I don't know but that sounds pretty much like what I would expect this final to be as they head into Minneapolis. I'm actually thinking that the vikings pull. This is one off that they come ahead probably just as the score was but you know. I think that it's very feasible for them to do you against the raiders right now and this road stretch again as I mentioned the beginning of the show. This is a tough road stretch for this team of course the London game being a home game but that's quite a ways from Home Adam. What do you have on this game. A what's the line you're you're pretty good with the banning and where you know the points are who's laying what what do you have from the betting aspect of this and what is your pick for the game. Vikings are seven and a half last the last. I looked at a little more than a touchdown favorite. That sounds about `bout right. I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of offense from the raiders in this one last week. They got ten points against a very below average chiefs chiefs defense. I don't know how they get a whole lot more than that especially looking at some of the injuries and the potential for having maybe some guys not play on Sunday and we'll see exactly how that turns out but I think they I think ten again is probably about right and I don't think the Vikings are very explosive but I'll say twenty three to ten okay miles. Would he got I would say twenty seven I don't know twenty twenty twenty seven fifteen twenty seven seventeen to five being about field goals and like don't for two is I think it's GonNa be very hard for the readers score on this defense in that building. I think that they're going to have to get it's a few goals and I think that the vikings can force a law enforcement turnovers and I think that's what's going to be a problem because we we see the raiders be able to move the ball. They have weapons whether it's during Waller Williams. Their carrier caught intermediate to pass last week at so there are ways that the raiders can move the ball what I just don't trust. Is Them not turn the ball over. Dirk car has to be able to make really good decisions with the football all in and we talked about. I think on the last so the podcast the whole you know was it offends a pass interference you know was a wind us trying to throw to Ryan grant right in that ball gets picked kicked off and they're mad and whatnot it's just can you avoid do big turnover. I don't know that you're going to be able to do that in that building if they if the raiders can avoid turnovers played clean and stop the run on the other side. We're going to pretty good shot to win this game but I don't know that that's going to happen so that's why I picked Vikings. I'll say twenty seven seven sorry if they get that fifteen with five field goals three turn of Daniel Carlson to Minnesota and they've expressed Zimmer Express some regret letting Carlson go so his return and kicking five field goals would be would be perfect it would it would it would be really nice but I think the nicest thing for Daniel Carlson would be able to be him like being able to kick a game winning field goal and so like if it were I don't know like seventeen to fourteen that would be cool for him and I think it's so funny because we talked to Dan Carlson in the locker room yesterday and he was saying like you know. I know that this is going to be a story and like you guys wanted to have a I'm not that concerned about it and it just seems that like that's his kind of demeanor and he said you know. I am really happy with where I am. Now you know with my faith based like this is God's plan and that worked out to where I'm in a better situation and in Malaysia and like you so it's tough to be cut after being a fifth round pick and whatnot but he also understood that its business and like I said Yeah. He just feels like he's in a good situation now. So is interesting that Daniel Carlson will have this opportunity to kind of rub it in my face a little bit but I don't know it's just like I said it. It's GONNA be candidate. Avoid the big trove her and I think it's just GonNa be really tough and again penalties to and such a young team but that'll do it for this podcast Vegas nation and we will get back to you when the game is over on Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings the raiders is now on the road until November third when they return home to face the lions you can catch every game rank cap every game preview during the season on Vegas nation. Dot Com the biggest nation APP or Review Journal. 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What needs will the Raiders address in the NFL Draft?

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What needs will the Raiders address in the NFL Draft?

"Return to blue chips status if that does happen we'll be we'll be beyond our way it's time for the Vegas Nation podcast with your hosts Heidi Fang Tonio Tiro Williams Trent round hopefully that can help thank you for listening Michael since we last talked the raiders have made several interesting moves a couple notable names were added just last Thursday particularly interested here in line occur Brandon Marshall we finally have Vegas born player on this team a guy who went to Cimarron memorial played at you and our and spent the last five seasons with the Broncos then he had the t this tasteful instagram post which he deleted also dismissed from George after some infractions he had there where do you see the courses career I think it is another example of the raiders just trying to add someone at the position before they go into the draft really hadn't had any sort of acquisition linebacker on a base three four defense with the broncos how quickly do you think hugh will adapt to the base for three that Paul Guenther runs I mean how do you imagine that he fits checkered past Michael Remember back when he was with the jets he was fined over thirteen thousand dollars for a very crude touchdown celebration You know the raiders were very clear that they wanted to fill as many holes as they could before the draft so that when the draft arrives they have some versatility to hit different physician for getting signed to Oakland Raiders team. What can you tell us Michael About Brandon Marshall in this signing well he's somebody who gives the raiders another covers all things silver and black here for the Review Journal you can always find them online at Gilpin? NFL or find his articles on review journal Dot Com the NFL. You probably spend a lotta time in nickel or dime defense depend on your athleticism and your ability to stack up in pass coverage and so Marshall to address the position aggressively in the draft he's certainly could still select linebacker but they'll feel better about where the physician going into martial has been playing inside I'm at the running back position since they lost marshawn Lynch and Doug Martin to fragancies and I say lost while knowledge in the fact that if raiders twenty either player the raiders of added Montas Perfect course among them by doing these sorts of moves the raiders might feel less of an urge or even requirement backer initially to start this season he somebody who obviously has some division experience having been with the Broncos for the past handful of years but stand the raiders linebacker core I'm sure he's played it before his past and the raiders are fairly multiple out of their defense so whether you're three four four three linebacker in the John's as they steal fit in terms of getting the best guys who are available so by adding some linebackers and Very Marshall not the first line ought to be any sort of issues criminal I well Marshall was a major in criminal justice we have the addition of running back Isaiah Crowell who's had a bid does a criminal justice major they're going to Isaiah crows questions about him but you know he's you know he's back he's been productive oh you should be in a veteran in this league there might be some period where his is my I have to get used to being a four man front but I wouldn't anticipate is am crow wells I guess fitting in here and will you be a problem for the raiders are not well first of all I wanNA highlight with transition that was mentioned Brandon Marshall The raiders do they want marshawn Lynch for a third season he is someone to prove in these past two years when he's healthy he can produce still they would come back I believe that marshawn Lynch wants to be a writer in two thousand nineteen easy on the raiders are the only team which he'd WanNa play and ultimately it'll come down but the question is horse can stay healthy raiders comfortable with moving in with him in there in future and so I would expect somebody to be the number one running back it's possible that we could see them circle around to marshawn lynch someone else but I really do believe that the raiders are going to address that position in the draft. Well let's jump that there's a guy named Josh Jacobs out there running back out of Alabama I've seen a lot of these mock drafts projecting that he may be a guy that goes to the raiders and the raiders is not on the roster today I think they find their number one running back in the draft draft comes and goes and they don't get that number one twenty four the twenty-seven pick that they have in the first round how much do you feel like this is somebody that is a viable candidate to go to the raiders in some respects he certainly fits what they want you look at what the readers want to serve their backs to do in the passing game pass protection running routes L. I wouldn't be surprised if we see tight end if one that the raiders love is still available late in the first round maybe we see in there or a running back as well and then around early second round I think that is fair window to expect the raiders to take a serious look at the running back position but there are a lot of needs on this roster we could talk all day of of a load where you have concerns about how much guy has left on those tires so be late I I or focused on this month you mentioned offense and the tight end position somebody who's been out there and we've talked about him here on the Vegas Nation podcasts up what they need to do defensively but even offense with Jon Gruden largely calling the shots he's shown that he's pretty aggressive when it comes to upgrading his offense of personnel how the raiders go about addressing all of these needs but offense Circling around and tied up is is is an area that the raiders you know he's a pretty dynamic back there at Alabama you really liked his usage there and that you know nick saving didn't run into the ground you know he is workload was never of that sort of have noah font out of Iowa I think he's somebody who has been very dynamic and his stock value seems to keep rising if the draft happened right now Michael in sometime in the draft despite all the moves the raiders have made adding veteran wide receivers we could also see a slot wide receiver additive this groups so we'll see we're do you see him going do you think he could land with the raiders what would they have to do to get him what's interesting how l. and so either of them you can make the case should be off the board before the raiders are on the clock at number twenty four overall and so if both are off the in terms of what teams plan is and I think we know the raiders plan is to draft a starting guards. Don't be at all surprised if we see that this month peters aren't drafting a starting guard tool who will be opposite gave Jackson this season a lot of indications can come from for agency do the titans go off the board because it's not just no fan like you mentioned he's got a teammate an Iowa TJ Hopkinson who is a first round prospect the positions again that you address you mentioned the defense and the gaping holes that still exists there on the roster the raiders last year allowed a league high dairy to lock down in coverage as long as the raiders needed to lock down last year because posing quarterbacks set so much time to sit in the pocket and raiders draft room to add a top tight end and I I should I will murthy starting guard is something that we need to keep an eye on I'd be surprised if the next around these players that are in place for you mentioned the NFL high yards per attempt allowed we knew are getting as little pressure strength of this secondary right now amongst the players that they have they have some obviously guys like Karl Joseph Out there there's Gary Connolly where do they build the point two yards per pass attempt right now they re signed there they're all Wurley so there's somebody that was in the system last year where do you see fourth round you know later in the draft in the Middle Rounds de when it comes but ideally the raiders would love have find value someone who could be their number one board might we see the raiders not go tied in there and we'll wait a little bit later maybe there is someone they like in the second third or not third I suppose but they don't WanNa pick there ride in I think of either of those Iowa tight ends are available at number twenty four overall the you you would stand to think that there would be some serious consideration he played free safety he played nickel corner in inverse order with the rams in Las in Saint Louis Van Los Angeles who's got rural potential at the cornerback position Karl Joseph finished year really strong these are two of Fridge McKenzie's final first round picks and they both showed potential the reports that I read on Nfl Dot Com seems to speculate that the raiders are going to trade up for a quarterback like drew lock interesting take and I've been reading a lot of these mock drafts looking into maybe too much but there's speculation out there that the raiders are going to trade up and one why is there this ongoing speculation that the raiders are going to take a quarterback and why so early I mean if they trade up let's say to the to trade with the forty guys and they're doing homework and and all that but again there has been no true indication yet That the raiders are looking to move on from Derek Carr right now from doing just about anything when it comes to draft the quarterback position so we'll wait and see ultimately but as much as we can tell that aside it doesn't Dan so he's got that schemers until the raiders really like a something that markets go Chris had he's much younger much more instinctive in the raiders so like they really upgraded their. Here's Sir I name I rattled off of the strength because of what he needs as a nickel shutdown type of guy that the raiders certainly hope he can be the research on quarterbacks but as of right now Indians can change I understand that but as of right now I'd be shocked if the Raiders Select quarterback in the first round on the quarterback is the raiders are getting you'd expect that high number it's very you're asking a lot out of your secondary I don't care sold pro bowlers off rose you're asking a lot of any second Our draft a quarterback in search around drew lock is someone that they were impressed by having coached him at the senior bowl in Mobile Alabama in January I he has a reputation of being willing to move mountains in order to make it happen so his track record and personality is such that people can't discount him I always have to somewhat protect myself and I speak in total certainty when it comes these sorts of things especially when it comes to Jon Gruden quarterbacks if he falls in love with the guy the last year namely after the Kenzi was fired but both those guys will be a big part of things moving forward Eric Harris as more of a rotational guy someone's they added uh-huh Brown in signing tyrone Williams and signing trump round all these contracts secured these top dollar guys for the next two years or so Eight of Antonio Brown Landry Jones than you also have Mike Glennon added so what do you make of those two signings and the competition that you can expect again Derek is franchise quarterback you look at every move at the raiders have made this offseason signing trading in signing wait and wait and wait until a guy gets and then pick car any manner zone design that punter scheme it up it didn't matter what he was scheming up could it can be a you know the certainly asset in small number of sub packages Marcus joyner is probably should have been my first name when you don't do those moves traditionally if you're then going to switch to a rookie quarterback's and I haven't heard any conversations that indicate the writers who are the speculation I haven't seen anything substantiated that would indicate this is real and everything that I've heard that this is not real it's just talk so yes the raiders are aww cure but the raiders are going to draft a quarterback in the first round the second round and so forth maybe three it could happen but you'll get the roster today four artifacts that they've signed have signed the contract and the expectations that that will be the case come may these same four quarterbacks Hi Derek Carr in two thousand nineteen eighty McCarron he opened the season as the one and only backup to car and that was the case for the burn of the year we'll see in a move on from Derek Carr this season I expect Derek Carr will be the franchise quarterback in two thousand nineteen I look forward to when the draft is over so we can stop talking about the possibility niners wouldn't the idea be that they go after a guy like Nick Boza yeah so I don't know how to say I'd be shocked the raiders or under contract right now three backups under contract right now is out on April fifteenth when the Raiders Start Their voluntary spring workout program and they're installing the offense because the raiders are going to be drafted one early maybe again draft one day three one of those four can be released at what do you make those quarterbacks out it because we have one who is a former teammate. There's there was nobody to get after the quarterback and so The strengths of the Raiders Secondary I think you look at Garin colleen and he can take the next step this is somebody the other two obsolete or they're two guys who just seem to have demonstrated all this potential and Jon Gruden wants both of them to be behind Eric or does he and league some and they will compete for the number two and maybe number three jobs I say maybe because his possible the raiders only keep one quarterback dance and you know Ota's are about to begin all of the things of competition taking hold all three of those potential backups will be in the building the raiders have in the first round between a guy like De'andre Baker or a guy like Byron Murphy which of those two do you think would be a better fit for the raiders table to learn together all starting on equal footing to push sewer backups behind car all right I think we've covered a lot of what could happen not like any of them and the trades for guy the way he did bridging McCarron on September first so we'll we'll see how it all goes but the whole point was to having all ah knowing the nicotine German you've been back up at the end of last season for the raiders and started week one for the buffalo bills I mean these guys have some NFL experience who've been okay so let's look here you know we talked a little bit about the secondary if you're looking at that position cornerback defensive back at the twenty four the twenty seven it was some of the possibilities at quarterback hopefully we've exhausted that speculation right my good good good added Ryan grant also they also released Seth Roberts so it looks like at the wide receiver position. They're going to have a full house already Dan what the raiders take and I think it'll be dictated by what these quarterbacks show I mean to one of 'em really separate himself from the rest the raiders have done in free agency they sign lamarcus joyner they signed Nevin Lawson former former starter for the Detroit lions they brought back would be a bit surprised if we see either cornerback via raider this draft initially before they made the moves that they did at wide receiver abilities I ultimately don't know if I see the raiders taking a cornerback in the first round and no it's been projected to them and shoot maybe it does happen but you look at early on pretty aggressive second year tenure have gear on Collie it doesn't look like the type of moves from a team that is also looking to invest a premium draft pick thought for sure they'd be going after a guy like decay metcalf but we see now the all the moves that they've made with tyrel Williams with Antonio Brown and then just last week eight and then when it came time for him to officially sign he took his physical and he failed him so that beautiful contract was no more uh-huh quarterback there yes they are working out cuyler Murray and winning as has hit the different top quarterbacks in the draft you know they're meeting with the ensue during training camp once that gets underway yeah Mike Lennon is someone who could experience Landry Jones has back of experience the raiders who had interest in Ryan grant last year under a different general manager have interested had interested and again this year You know the constant is I again it could be surprised and maybe the raiders are in amored with somebody at corner that they do take but with the needs elsewhere which includes safety I watch Washington redskins worth noting their head coach by Jay Gruden John Gruden's younger brother and those to

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Raiders to be featured on HBO's Hard Knocks

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

22:49 min | 1 year ago

Raiders to be featured on HBO's Hard Knocks

"Like i said to bring a right kind of people here we think that can build championship football team has the most loyal fans in the world and i know it hurts that we might not be the oakland raiders forever but we are still raider nation i think it's going to be thank you so much for listening captivate the audience and have a lot of attention on airtime you have regina avant his birth defect jon gruden meetings i think those we've got a lot to talk about today from obviously everybody knows by now the big news raiders to be featured on HBO's hard knocks throughout training camp and everything kind of comes to a halt ideally ideally you want to be quiet during this period you don't want to learn of any sort of officers activity everson feedback out there you can make sure to follow all of michael's well on review journal dot com for the raiders page here vegas nation NFL and we have their minicamp wrap up that was out in alameda so we will get to michael on all of that very shortly here you can find us online at review journal dot com slash pod squabble with somebody and those vying first spot on the fifty three man roster obviously gets cut down from the ninety man roster as the season progresses so michael how are you doing do well you're you're disturbing my slumber before training camp right you get those cast and subscribe to vegas nation on any platform you find your podcasts on drop us comment let us know what you think about the show we always love hearing from you so because once hard knocks gets going it's going to be one of those things where they're going to try to find all of the drama all the confrontations anybody that's NFL films is having a plan in terms of okay here are some obvious storylines for this year of the raiders obviously antonio brown diggers too hey everyone it's heidi thing here along with our readers beat writer michael belkin and it is time for another edition of vegas nation our podcast can be found on are at as well you can download the vegas nation app from the app store to follow all things silver and black and we are brought to you by s. t. n.'s sports mobile stations casino biggest storyline but HBO will follow well i know what they do a really good job of is terms of HBO and i mean more than seventeen hundred fifty hours of footage is a captured by cruise thirty person crew in napa and is to the start of the regular season so you know when you look at the standpoint of hard knocks what they looked to produce what do you think will be the precious few minutes right before everything get started but it'll be let's see maybe about thirty more days or so until then the open surprises i mean whatever captures whatever they capture they find interesting it could be an undrafted rookie it could be you know someone who can rap sake or someone who just has a great attitude about who suddenly becomes a coach's favorite thereby a viewer favorite whatever develops they are there to capture it arises well so reader open for nice quiet months ahead until they go back into the fold hard knocks training camp and sure they are we're going to be a really interesting but the raiders are NFL films HBO i'll do it again incredible job of just having those plans but then being ed good month and a half five or six weeks till things pick up in napa when the raiders players will next reconvene and so he's that create disturbances guys will train and then they'll get injured you know the NFL sometimes announced suspensions and obviously often field stuff lawyers that recovering have you seen max crosby spit rhymes on twitter i've seen a few clips of this and he's pretty amazing i have seen then while not all of it makes it to cut because the raiders do have some say in the raiders in the NFL in terms of what goes on what doesn't on air we are going to be able to have far more expansive view into things and while the part of me has reported thanks well ideally it's gonna be a lot of the behind the scenes footage that is just me really interesting in so as a reporter it's it's different win you blue command some attention not just for his bloodlines but the fact they just physical rodriguez no interest or idea on how to slow down at expected to be a napa for joint practices a couple of days in the raiders travel to canada for a preseason game in mid august against the packers i mean a we only have so much access to practice in obviously were not in the meeting rooms and we we see a small segment of what actually happens with a club we log series to get to know the raiders better and i think it will make our coverage better over the course of the season when all those cameras leave will have a better sense of who the people are coaches are the so i i there's a lot a lot here as it relates to the raiders having mentioned the fact that ronald ali former star of the netflix there's the NFL high three rookie first round fix you have max crosby there in the fourth round quinton bell seventy round is really appealing guy the raiders are going to have a hard time cutting what is tight end look like what is running back look like chris warren i'm sure he's going to the coverage you know the insight about what's happened to the civil team to come from my own coverage i think it's it's a great opportunity for fans and for people who aren't raiders fans enjoyed season goes on so you cannot make sure to check in on those as well on review journal dot com slash podcast but i think there was also news that there's a break dancing it's gonna be pretty incredible letting people just to see all that's happening with this team intriguing and in fact we're going to be covering everything really did to the raiders being on hard knocks here on the vegas nation podcast we're gonna be doing special podcast after each episode of hard knocks as the guests this week have kind of murmured that you know why didn't they wait until next year when the team was moving i don't know for me i think in some respects it's kind of better that they're doing it this year for two reasons possibly next year let's just say the raiders make the playoffs than they would become ineligible show last chance you is a rookie defensive tackle on this team is their cameras will be falling him again and so on these storylines go while the rams own would you agree i valid i think it helps build anticipation you see on television all it's happening with the raiders during they were is there is there is good in two thousand nineteen as they are interesting they're gonna win the super bowl they'll be a dynasty in terms of just how interesting adduce las vegas to this team all be some of these players may not be on the team when they come to vegas but i think it's a good way for them to get to know who is coming to town in the playoffs in the last two years and then they can't have been on the show in the past ten years so i think the raiders right now they fit that criteria but and no way if they make the playoffs eligible next year so that would be one reason that would scratch them out being on hard knocks but i think in some ways it's a good way to hard knocks because that is part of the eligibility requirements for how they determine which teams will be on the show is they can can't have new coach they can't have been who stood out for this team but as you assess things through what you've seen already in the off season workout program what do you think right now as i he's actually in las vegas mark davis was a few days ago when it's supposed to last weekend when he was notified that the raiders have been chosen to be on hard knocks roger goodell was in town in in vegas and they are at the stadium construction site coach michael that we might see there as well i mean these are the kind of thing interest me out the janitor gender breakdown says yes nice oh beautiful point of our nas let's get into a little bit about the team and what you saw during mini camp i know that we've talked about a couple of players this there might be a fighter too and trying to can't because he just so physical generally let me l. let let let me turn it down during even low speed type drills and just looking over the progress and it was mentioned to davis during that period of time that this is the year of raiders because you have a stronger attachment to some of the personalities so yeah i would buy that i was a believer that i visited that the the barsby dropped out of high school wreck group and so i'm again among the other storylines that no doubt hard knocks has to follow yeah i mean you know they tendered daryl wurley they added nickel corner lamarcus joyner they signed nevin lawson we get ready to head into training camp may be the biggest position that will have a ton of competition they're responsible with ross her that qualify cornerback is is a real competitive area you look at what the raiders have done this offseason raiders of being hard knocks one of these two years but i thought it was going to be next year i thought it was gonna be aligned with the franchises moved to las vegas just like we saw with the all the story lines and personalities that are here absolutely and especially with gruden topping ballista personalities there with the raiders a lot of people here in las vegas rams when they were transitioning from saint louis to l. a. do those two thousand and sixteen hard knots follow the rams around during their training camp and you have a great sense as to what this team is that is coming a sense of their journey you're probably more inclined to follow them at an debts it's throughout the building there is a lot of injury a lot a almost it's almost like the raiders were made for TV and so if they were any campaign so there in california so that was but i think that was the hope of many in the raiders organization including owner mark davis but to differentiate himself in practice and probably more importantly in games well i will the rounds and the raiders have a mix keyshawn nixon a undrafted rookie use peeling it just going to be interesting to see how all that works itself out and so rookie from wisconsin figures to provide some competition there over the course of training camp and so we will we will see exactly who wins these competitions snapper is all that sounds like injured apolo probably would be that guy we don't know the teams puncher is all it sounds johnny towns and probably will be that guy AJ cole it drafted two cornerbacks beginning with trayvon molin in the second round at clemson later isaiah johnson day three the they still have nick nelson news about that and can we expect to see that during training camp i was told that the NFL combine in early march and reported it than that what is really interesting it's the whole secondary to then you know i would say running back with what is that look like the back end of that depth charged who is a fourth round pick in two thousand eighteen it's conceivable he doesn't make this club so i think just how that works itself out this is something that jon gruden sean mcveigh both want to get done and there's a belief that it will get done it's not quite official yet but it's at all these various positions but i think that is no doubt one of the sources of injury a from a pure football stamp point in napa is just you know days before their respective preseason opener in oakland will be in napa training against each other for a couple of days join practices and it will just be tight end what does that look like a lot of new pieces air certainly the back on the depth chart some competition kinda go on and on even number two quarterback we don't even know who the teams is practices as the raiders did with the lions during training camp that was something that i know you asked jon gruden about at the start of minicamp but have you heard any news do you think right now we'll see the most people kind of chopped off as things start progressing it's hard to say i think you'll be you know you know if you could say that there's any players right now that are on some sort of bubble i mean obviously it's a huge rousers ninety guys right now you know where so to speak when you look at players and evaluating them and i guess how they're performing when it's not the seven on seven period periods so teams just intensity picks up i would say even better than the preseason game self that follows a couple of days later just because of the controlled setting it's kinda like lightning right now the most competition but when you start putting on pads and then you know hidden each other it becomes a completely different ballgame you know garin college looking to make a elite in his second true full season in the NFL typically his third year in the league so i that corner back spot been that raises the bar competition you have these practices as a way to kind of break up training camp is same guys every single day dr course others have a long way to go before he could project them to be actual subaru contenders as defense is young it's a lot to prove a but you can't dismiss the fact nelson again would be one i think if the raiders have to make a tough cut at running back tight end or wide receiver you know i think which one right now has stood out the most to you and why is a tough question the nine drafted rookies and that's something that we've talked about as well when it comes to determining positions on this team like i asked you oh who's gonna be the most competitive position you know does it look like attention in the air is such that it is really interesting in again a more competitive than a typical training camp practice you kind of take it easy on each other so to speak that you know it doesn't get too heated too often but when you have a new set of players arms of guys who if they waves there figures would be interests around the league in terms of claiming that player i think cornerback onto their fifty three man roster i think at running back the same thing could happen with chris warren if he doesn't make the team or does john washington would be of interest assign him to their fifty three man roster late in the season instead the raiders promoted him from the practice squad to block that move so there are some of these young guys oster if they show well this preseason if not the raiders than for someone else i gotta tell you when i'm out there watching you work michael i'm always impressed by i don't wanna call you a student of the game i n a means but i think like it's just the way that you analyze the way the u steady the players i it's like your your mind clicking on a different level and i always respect that about you so i have to ask you this out of the nine rookies they you have seen out there on the field elsewhere a tight end a paul butler doesn't make this roster i could see teen making a claim for him props to detroit lions who wanted like way back then that this is pretty much a done deal and every indication remains that is the case and so i would pay that the raiders and the rams a couple of a i think it's always tough and always will cushion it with pads are on or a guy can sometimes look incredible when there are no pets claimed off waivers that he won't be someone that the raiders will be able to add to their practice squad after you know before the season begins because another team will put in that claim and pick them up a bottle you know whether it be a fight that breaks out and van gruden they they want to see productive they don't want skirmishes they wanna avoid all of that but the third down pass rusher which raiders wanted all along last year before they traded khalil mack and bruce urban didn't wasn't the player that they hoped he'd be in onto your onto your field it's just natural where it just feels different there's a different buzz in the air the fans are more into it at a coaches in every this is that enough but he just he seems like the real deal and when you pair him with carl joseph who looks much stronger more are you know the nick nelson was kind of a bit player in a nickel role after leon hall went down last season so there are some guys who certainly figured to be on in NFL rod on injured reserve for the entire season last year with a knee injury but your defense haven't really seen him refugees always are obviously you haven't seen paul now keelan dos at a guy UC davis i'm gonna probably should've mentioned earlier he was their top undrafted rookie signing he's got a real chance to make this club and if he doesn't i would expect that he gets is this presence about him where it doesn't seem like the NFL game is too big for him granted it's early i can't i can't pads he hasn't been tackled qualified to be tackled here in alameda but you see how he is when the balls more in line with what his role could be so you might have josh morrow starting at one end spot and for all on the other and so i think his is on but then the transition to the NFL really hits when hitting starts in the gets more physical training camp and so everything should be cushion who bears fans really haven't seen in gains such as chris warren moon you lead the NFL preseason rushing last year but he was stashed on ultimately key play more a little bit more than forty defensive snaps per game that was worse case scenario

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Raiders end preseason  3-1

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

28:08 min | 1 year ago

Raiders end preseason 3-1

"Vegas nation presented by sports mobile from station casinos. We'll try and like i said to bring the right kind of people in here. We think they can build championship. Football team the most loyal fans in the world. I know it hurts that we might not the oakland raiders forever but we are still waiting action. I think it's going to be a <hes>. Don't get an army coming into things everyone tiny bang here along with our our readers writers miles simmons and adam hill. This is the vegas nation podcast and we were brought to you by s._d._n. Sports mobile stations casino make sure to subscribe at vegas vegas nation dot com download the vegas nation at follow all things that we do here silver and black you can also find this podcast on review journal dot com slash podcast broadcaster anywhere else you get your shows make sure to comment. Let us know what you think we always love hearing from you and in fact i did get a comment from a listener and it was brought to my attention last week that we never gave a proper goodbye to michael belkin are former raiders beat writer so i wanted to take this opportunity to officially do that. He was fantastic sick to work with and we do wish him well in his next venture and now stepping into that role of the raiders writer here at r._j. We have miles simmons who comes to us from the rams and also adam hill. Who's on just about every beat here so miles. How are you doing tonight and seattle. You've been there at the game today. It looked like it was a little bit rainy. As everything thing was happening out there <hes> how is doing out there in seattle yeah you know what it was very rainy but fortunately i stay dry today because what i walked to the stadium pre-game pre-game it was sunny and it was actually really nice throughout most of the day and then it didn't really start raining until about our our fifteen before kickoff and it really rained throughout throughout the entire game but when i walked back to the hotel i also stay dry so i am winning today and adam. You had a fancy flight on a fancy jet to get out to oakland where you are now so that like it's just wonderful listen. I'm i'm a veteran of that that route. I think i could fly the plate myself now <hes> how to do it a couple more talks awesome but i also want to make sure that all the listeners know that we have a great interview lined up for you here. Today we spoke with alex marvez from sirius x._m. N._f._l. radio and he's gonna give us his take and outlook of the raiders upcoming season here and we are now through the preseason and the tough job will begin here with the raiders jon gruden mike milkin their work ahead of them leading up to august thirty first when the roster must be down to the fifty eighty three and one that they will go into the season with but i think at this point and after this game here they had lost just today in seattle seventeen fifteen was the final score you're on this thursday night and i think at this point gruden and may i know who they're going with no who they're gonna keep but there's those few guys that remain on the bubble so <hes> <hes> i will talk about even westbrook's because miles. I think he's somebody you're a little familiar with from the rams and he looks like to be one of those guys right. Now had a pretty a decent game not sure if it's enough to get them signed to that fifty three man roster. What do you make a westbrook's yeah. I think he's had very good preseason and it's probably early been pretty tough for him. Just from the standpoint of he didn't get signed to the raiders until they were like a week a week and a half into camp. I think he got to the raiders. Just before for the rams came up on for there to join practices there so he's had limited opportunities just from practice <hes> but i think once he's gotten into those games you can see is versatility because he can play on the outside and the inside a tackle and he can get after the quarterback really really well so i mean as you said hayek i had been around. Even westbrook sense really his rookie year when he came to the rams as an undrafted free agent in west was texas a._&_m. In two thousand fourteen also your i started covering the ramp so i've seen him grow and he's been somebody who can be a reliable rotational apiece and i think that's exactly what the raiders need and because he can play outside and inside that might give him biddable leg up over some of the other guys on the defense sublime because you're talking about your game day forty six man roster you need somebody on the defensive line who can have that kind of versity because it somebody needs a blow. If somebody gets hurt you can plug and play him so i think that's why he really does have a good case to make the fifty three adam last week. You spoke about anthony russia would come into this defensive unit as somebody that you thought stood out. What did you think about him. This week against seattle is see somebody that you still see as maybe maybe making a push here to make that roster. You ain't watching the game last week. I thought he looked like he had in those first. Two each we really stood out space plays and he's just a guy that not only caused the bill and hold his position. Which is really you have to do. <hes> experts also can impact the game to bake plays a different spots lots of those plays to chop outs but i gotta tell you what i watched back. I watched a little tape afterwards. It really focused on it but i think there's too many plays where it gets a little bit overly progressive <hes> he allows them to get a little bit out of position overplays a little bit into his gaps and that is easily pushed out of the play on too many occasions so those. Let's play that are really good. Jump out to you <hes> but i i think you to buy seats up the weaknesses as well. She's an attractive for free agent. You're going to see some words. Tape is with all those great players making the first couple of weeks. I think this is a guy that was really right there. In a position to make the team <hes> he may not be the right side of that cutlets now <hes> because you know some of those things showed up a little bit but listen. I think he's a guy they really wanna have around sir that is they do you cut it. Somebody else sloops because i think the raiders love to have him on the practice squad but you can't just put a guy the practice squad you got exposure caught up so <hes> there might be some guys like that the listen he's just caught up in it offers game. Really i think the guy can really plastic. The potential is certainly there <hes> but i know that you know groom was talk. Afterwards at the defensive tackle spot is going to be one of those positions with there's just a tough really capable bodies and the raiders have to make some tough choices. That's what this time years years old and another if i could jump in there heidi sorry but like i think whether it be interesting things at green said about that tackle spot to is that he's not they're not just going to be looking at their own defensive tackles hughes saying that they're going to be looking at defensive tackles and even women from around the league so that's where this fifty three man roster is really going to get interested in because who gets cut from other places that the raiders are going to be looking at that could be on defensive line oftens could be an any number of spots but that's something to definitely monitor and as we monitor who is making this team is a lot of other guys that like you were talking about adam <hes> maybe on the receiver and these guys ended up like special teams or something when you're looking at like marcel eight-man kiat hatcher win. There's keelan dos toss out there who's looking more and more like he should have been drafted and not coming into a team undrafted. Where do you see the line being drawn here with the wide receivers miles. Oh it's a good question. I mean what i thought was really interesting and we're talking about. This in the press lots a couple of guys from other outlets kulen. Dos oss was playing in the fourth quarter of the fourth preseason game and we think about the fourth quarter of the fourth preseason game. That's not really a time where you wanna be playing. If you really you are somebody who is either going to make the fifty three man auster or like is really trying to push because kimes when they're playing you in that time. It's like a lot of times. It's like if you were showcasing you for somebody else so i really thought tequila off at a really good case to make make the fifty three but then tonight comes already drops a couple of passes. I thought he responded very well into the second half continuing to make plays but i think thank you know the kid from alameda as carnot's will certainly let you know knock on wood. If you're with me i i just i'm not sure his case now to make the fifty three <music>. This episode of vegas nation will be right back. It s d in sports the only sports betting app you need this season sign up today and get a new site up bonus of up to fifty dollars when we talk about you know showcasing guys i it seems as some point here that john gruden's kind of already made his mind up and maybe this is another thing that's been attributed needed to hard knocks with the quarterbacks <hes> you know maybe they keep three. Maybe nathan peterman was just out there. You know because like you said it's the end of the last preseason season game and they already decided that clinton's the guy they put them in. You know plays mostly game. Do the raiders keep three quarterbacks here or is it just going to be glennon in as the backup to derek carr adam. I think it is going to decide like i really tough decision making on who witnessed 'cause i. I don't think they're comfortable going into the season with nate peterman backup so i think glenn has has won the job to be not that it's necessarily it opened on a seal to practice skills. They've been sitting. It's a potato out there ahead of rotation. We saw the one clip on hard doc so basically case for peter saying. I think he's a better player that you guys all do. I'm gonna give out the frustration was going to talk. Look back to the eternal at first <hes> those boxes but i think i think come to close by clinton as as the number two guy in its does peter make the team or not. I think that's the question that they have in the issue and that's exactly what i feel. A guy who's always looked south <unk> took last year with the with the bills to this year. He's always been a tracy's guy <unk> mostly because he has a lot of difficulty fresher of difficulty picks up which is going to go with the ball and really sex necessarily of six gained clinic skied <unk> so is a much more cost player when he just sit there and see them you know by games together a couple of drives the last couple of which i think all those things are the ability of leadership some of those things that aren't true. He wants to walk with him and i think there's some groups well <hes> say that as a negative you have to have a lot of cases but even that says hey if i bake this guy good. I'm the greatest this quarterback guy. He's been in paris when he's been on the field so i think there's a little bit of that to look at me. Look what i can do with this guy <hes> and secure. She wants to have that project but i don't think he's going to have a jury if the if the other coaches are waging a group saying hey listen. It's great that you wanna have third quarterback drawback. It looked really good <hes> but hey we need this other guy here. I the sausage about the special teams are so weak pushing for extra sets a tackle arguments are going to be paid in that room i if they if they go into that discussion wanting a third quarterback it might not go all the waist and when you look at the red zone accuracy in tonight's game or lack thereof rather <hes> i. I don't think it's really that concerning to jon gruden at this space at this fourth preseason game how much these guys are or not converting in the red zone but i think there is concern when you're seeing saying like for instance the safety that came in and sacked nate peterman he loses the bali fumbles. It's recovered by seattle. Those are moments or i think you know even though he didn't see that come in at all but he it is concerning to see the turnover and that you know he was unable to put the ball in the end zone until the very last minute of the game miles. Do you think that what we saw tonight. You know is any indication that we're going to see nathan peterman on this roster well. I think what you just said yeah. I mean the fact that he didn't see a frontside blitzer coming. That's that's a problem right in gamed planning for these things when you're in the preseason season especially preseason game number four but at the same time i think anytime a quarterback is getting hit the like like it's a blindside yeah that that's a problem right and you have to be able to protect the football and to that weight nathan peterman had them actually very good job of turning the ball over <hes> <hes> throughout those first <hes> the first preseason games so i think i really agree with adam. I think it's it's a question of whether or not the raiders are going to keep three quarterbacks as a person whether or not nathan peterman is going to be the backup quarterback because if i'm jon gruden if i'm mike mayock comfortable with nathan peterman being my backup quarterback. I'm not and you know maybe it's because i just remember him going to carson in throwing five in the first half. Maybe it's because i remember seeing seeing him last season in he starts the season for the bills and they're like oh. No this guy is still turnover machine. Let's just put on our rookie. Let's can compete that way <hes> but i i think there certainly have been strides that nathan peterman has taken. He says he's more comfortable in the offense. He says he's comfortable with grew. I think you've seen in him. Do some really good things in the preseason but if it's me i'm going with the guy that's been in the league. Since two thousand thirteen has been backup quarterback in the past and that's my guan uh-huh and you know if nathan peterman is on the roster great if not then he'll he'll get another job somewhere else because he's a young quarterback in all those quarterbacks seem to do that so so that will do it here for the game wrapup of this preseason game the raiders ended three and one in the preseason and something we actually talk to our guest here alex marvez whereas about was the quarterback position what he expects to see from derek carr this year his second year working under the gruden system all right so alex alex. Tell me right now when you look at the raiders their team who's trying to improve off of four and twelve season. There are a lot of is looking to see if this team can turn things around on paper when you look at this roster. How likely do you think it is that they can produce a winning season. I think it's possible <hes> you know just because i think it can score for a lot of points. <hes> you know i i do that. That's a real positive for this team and i think you know listen to want to get too carried away with a preseason game like you did with the zona cardinals but it was just it's a good way to look back a year and just when you think about how far the raiders have come. It's clear the derek. Carr has complete command of this offense. You really liked that. Darren waller is shown a tight at you like the addition of tyrel williams at the wide receiver position hunter renfrew. I think is going to become a pretty darn effective target for for this team team. You know in for derek carr so i think the offensive line is is solid across the board as well. I know even though without gave jackson richie incognito at some point guard position to be problematic early in the season but i i think otherwise though at the tackle position this is a solid team that has made a lot of investments. We know rodney hudson brings to the table. I mean defensively. This is where you get concerned because <hes> while it's definitely an upgraded group we still don't know where the pass rush is going to come from aside the blitzing that i think you guys a good example of how the raiders are going to approach this to an extent. They do trust the back ed esa one thing about this raiders team. The strength of the defense clearly is the secondary and you have a player like lamarcus joyner. You could send blitzes. I think that they trust being able to send some some different guys after the quarterback for the back end of the defense to hold up long enough hoping that the pressure's gonna get there but i'm not sure where else it comes from how quickly cleland farrell develop into someone who'll affects the quarterback arden key how quickly he developed the you no into someone who can affect the quarterback these types of things linebacker depth extremely thin. Let me just put it like this feeling that the raiders are going to need every point they score on offense wants to you know to compensate for some things that are happening on defense but i still think it's the team though headed in the right direction and it's definitely going to be an improved club for twenty eighteen eighteen how much better while we'll see because playing a pretty tough division as well right after a season where they accumulated thirteen total sacks the only way to go is up so you touched on a lot of these improvements that the raiders have made. What do you think the main area. That was the best that they had actually improved on well. I mean i just i like the secondary a lot and i referenced that earlier but you know lamarcus joyner such a versatile player i mean and gives you know he's got that position. Flexibility oldie you know he can cover a slot. You know anybody could also play safety. He can rush to quarterback. He's got the lead blitz ability and you know we're from now joining him. Those two safeties are really solid. I you know abram. We know the guy who can bring a little bit when it comes to hidden some folks yes ratchet it back a little bit as we know jacket a couple what time mississippi state but i got to know him a little bit through the preacher have process at process in this guy. He cares about football. He wants to be great. I think those are things that you know you. You can't teach you either. Have it or you don't so. I'm excited about that trayvon mullen someone who's gonna have you know a he has a pretty bright future ahead as well second round pick out a clemson at corner corner and the resigning of darryl worley. I know he's not a newcomer but he's someone who served the raiders likes to top their official depth charting throw that in with the other guys that they have and you know by the way i mean to. I think curtis riley was an under the radar type signing. I sorta sixteen games for the new york giants last year and he's a real special teams guy but i mean this is a quality player so suddenly gary uncommonly carl joseph nick nelson. They've got some good guys supporting them. He's had never lost and his wealth from the detroit. Lions guy who started a bunch of games there air and i mean it's just a really deep overall unit and what i think it does you know again is just raiders team a little bit of time as they try to develop pass rush. You know that's the the thing you hope. Max crosby's getting into you know fourth round pick out of eastern michigan. He ultimately becomes someone who can affect a quarterback but you know you have that ability though for these guys to hang in they're able to stick with wide receivers long enough to be able to give the defensive line that front seven even the chance to be able to hit the q._b. One and constitute gear cars cars. Were you come down on. I guess basically how good he is because he is going to be somebody. That is extremely important if the raiders are actually going to take that next step forward yeah. I'm a car fan. I mean it and i've talked to tim brown about this. <hes> you know extensively and of course he's one of my co host and siriusxm n._f._l. Radio mannino's jon gruden inside and out and you know he said when the raiders i brought in jon gruden back in the late nineteen nineties. It took honestly two and a half years for them to get fully comfortable with jon gruden his type of system the offense etc. It's obviously being accelerated a little bit now. I don't think you have i mean in the case of gruden. He's he's got you know nine years left on his contract. He's not going anywhere anytime soon but i do think that there is a desire by grew to try to accelerate the process as well and he's got more more personnel say than he did obviously the late. Al davis was running the team so that being said i think you saw derek carr. Turn a corner last year when it came to not committing turnovers take that long stretch without throwing i n t which was impressive and showed that he was getting the hang of it even though he didn't have a whole bunch of offensive weapons around him at because his guy kept getting hurt and i think that i just think derek a really good quarterback i really do. I think he's not that far off from that guy who led the raiders to you know eleven and five ever it was eleven and four. I think at the time until we suffered a leg injury a couple years ago under jack del rio and the whole season went down the drain so i think eric i i mean i think this this is a guy. You know. It doesn't matter what i think is the raiders thing to right and they had a chance to try to find a replacement quarterback. They selected anyone outside of tyler murray. I don't think they were ever in the business. I think they believe in derek carr and i think that faith is going to pay dividends when you look at this team overall we of course to have the antonio brown drama happening right now and i'm thinking that a lot of this will subside when's the actual season gets underway and we're playing football and the drama will come to a halt with antonio brown did the raiders know what they were getting into with him and his diva type attitude to that he's presented and more importantly. Though do you think that he's the type of guy that's going to still have it as a thirty one year old wide receiver that is going to be able to have chemistry chemistry connect with derek carr i think so in terms of the ability to play at a high level and no one's ever doubted you know how hard antonio brown on worth to keep himself in shape to play at a high level the last time we saw him on a football field playing in a game he was the best player on the field that he was the best just one feature on a game between pittsburgh and new orleans that features future hall of famers ben rothlisberger a drew brees and let's not forget to mike thomas who is now the the highest paid wide receiver in football. Antonio brown was the best he was better than all of them. I mean the guy we've basically unstoppable at the receiver position. He then imploded. Antonio brown was his own worst worst enemy. When it comes to these sorts of things and you know that's what you say you hope it subsides and and that you know the helmet stuff becomes a thing of the past any moves on and there isn't an issue but you know there's no history that tells you that antonio brown won't be moving onto the next crisis. That's part of the problem in recent years. If it's not the helmet is it going to be something else that unfolds in tokyo brown as it is at another issue something that that's bothering him or if he's not getting the football throwing it in the right way by derek art as he throw a hissy fit and you know relationship the problems happen like you did with ben rothlisberger because antonio brown wasn't putting in the time with distillers to know his plays that was you know now as part of the frustration if we go back to it why did things go south with ben rothlisberger while basically antonio brown ran the wrong route in practice and ben rothlisberger through the football into the ground and then led to a blow up between the two tapie left. I mean the most disturbing thing that i read out of mike silvers twenty tweet thread that came out about the helmet situation and the threats to retire tired. Cetera wasn't so much about the helmet to me. It was reading how antonio brown wasn't paying attention and wide receiver meetings and basically was just sitting. They're on a tablet looking at a social media accounts in bank account. I mean that's the sort of stuff that worries me is antonio brown. Stay focused on football and is it just you know. Is this the helmet thing just a prelude to something else. You're talking about someone who started to accumulate a decent amount of lawsuits against him for you know people who claim they were hired to provide service for him. We have a personal trainer. We have a personal chef. They're not paid. We had someone who had to have a store of accused of throwing throwing furniture off of his balcony. I mean these types of things. Just continue to follow antonio brown around makes you wonder what is his mental state house he living life away from flip ball so i do all the helmet stuff may come and go is there just another headache waiting around the corner when it comes to antonio brown and one has to wonder to are the raiders or simply just trying to get through one season would antonio brown and then cut ties as crazy as it is and just admit hey we made a mistake. It is what it is. Let's let's move on. I think they want to do everything they came to see if it works out in twenty nineteen but i don't think there's any guarantees for twenty twenty i think antonio brown has really shaken the trust of this raiders raiders organization and again. We will see what happens alex. I know you have to get out of here. I really appreciate your time last thing. I'd like to ask you is just how many wins do you predict for this raiders team in two thousand nineteen. I think we're about an eighteen. I just don't trust the defense enough to be that much of a difference maker to be able to keep vocal the offense at times. I also think to playing kansas city playing the chargers even with the melvin gordon drama that is happening in denver defense. That's awfully good. I mean a lot the denver in oakland and competition really to be around. You know eight type of teams. I think it's a better division overall. Maybe the raiders surprise but i think they're inching closer to where they want to be. Let me just pull like this. They're on the right track for twenty twenty in las vegas and i think that's really what you're looking at. Here is a team that at that point should be ready to compete for a division title. They keep going the way they're going just going to be one year away in my opinion at twenty nineteen. Thank you alex so much for the time we certainly appreciate it. You can find alex online online on twitter at alex marvez and he also hosts sirius x._m. N._f._l. radio we certainly appreciate alex's taken taken everything that we just discussed with the raiders in the upcoming season and we will hope to have him again here on the show with the vegas nation crew as we wrap things up. Don't forget get roster. Cuts happen august thirty first miles. What can we expect a ver win. This comes down. What do we know about when those one will find out about the fifty three man roster stor yeah so hopefully in this is in i in an ideal world. We'll see if that actually turns out to be the case we will hear about who the cuts are in the afternoon on saturday. Because of course they are due at one p._m. But sometimes clubs like to be a little sneaky within because they think oh man and if i don't release the cuts you know to the media then maybe i can sneak my guy threw onto the practice squad a little bit easier so we'll see if that happens <hes> but so then we you should learn who the raiders fifty three man roster is on saturday and then sunday they can establish a man practice squad and they're probably based on what gruden gruden has been saying. We'll be a little bit more movement based on who else gets cut throughout the league so that fifty three. I like the call at the initial. Fifty three is when you hear your name on saturday. That doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be there on sunday. If your guy number fifty fifty one fifty two fifty three you know what i'm saying because there is so much movement throughout the league like almost twelve hundred players are going to be cut on saturday think about that that is so much of the workforce forty one percent of the player layer workforce is going to be cut on saturday so again. There can be a lot of movement so hopefully we'll get that and then we'll talk to you everybody else once we know what this roster is gonna quirk and if gruden thought he had tough calls to make just tonight and with all those twelve hundred guys out there is going to be a lot tougher i think but again you can find us all here. <hes> <hes> vegas nation dot com on the vegas nation app for all things silver and black check us out on review journal dot com slash podcast and vegas nation again is always brought. What do you buy s._d._n. Sports mobile stations casino you can give adam a follow on twitter at adam hill l._v. r._j. 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Vegas Nation title: Raiders look to snap 4-game losing skid against Chargers

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Vegas Nation title: Raiders look to snap 4-game losing skid against Chargers

"Vegas nation presented by sports mobile from station casinos. Like I said to bring the right kind of people in here. We think that can build championship. Football team has the most loyal fans in the world. I know it hurts that we might the Oakland raiders forever but we are still later next. I think it's going to be a you'll get an army coming into things. Hey everyone it's time for another edition of the Vegas Nation. podcast where we bring you today on. All things happening with the raiders. I'm your host. Heidi feing join here today. With our raiders writers vinnie bonds. In your and miles. Simmons Vegas Nation is brought to you by S. T.. End Sports Mobile Station Casinos and presented to you by blue wire. PODCAST networks six today. We're going to preview the raiders game against the La chargers. We're going to also be joined by another podcast there on the blue wire network reader cody. He's going to come on and talk talk about his experience last week in the black hole and what that was like for him during the final game in Oakland Oakland fans as we discussed in our last podcast did not get the w view that they hope for in the final game to ever take place in the Oakland Coliseum. Things ended CON awkwardly there but the raiders must quickly turn their focus to facing thing an AFC west rival in the chargers. This team is right. Now on a four game losing skid and as they had to lay for what is the first of their two game road trip to finish out the season. They're going to look to turn things around. But on this lovely Thursday here that we are recording good news and bad news the good news. First Rodney Hudson. Trent Brown make the proble the bad news. Trent Brown Brown is out with on. IRA WITH A peg. Injury Vinnie and the opening remarks of the show. We heard Jon Gruden say that. The raiders have lost critical players. This season and hits keep come in. I mean Josh Jacobs ruled out for week. Sixteen Trent Brown on I r I think right now. It's a smart. Move for the raiders to put Josh acres out this game but I also think that they should shut them down Kinda at this point in the season of any. What is your take on Josh Jacobs and bring us a title? So what's going on with Trent Brown. You Know I. I'm not sure what they're gonNA do with Josh beyond this game It sounds like Jon. GRUDEN is open to playing him. He wants to win games and and John Jacobs against cleared by the medical staff It sounds like he's probably gonNA play in that or would play in that last game against ever bought those. I'm kind of with you. I think that he's shown everything that he needs to show. I don't think these yes. The the raiders are mathematically still alive in the playoffs but it's slim AP's For sure so I wouldn't risk it you know. I think I think Josh is shown What he's all about? And it has proven to be a valuable apiece moving forward. So I wouldn't chance that Trent Brown just a tremendous season For for China tackle and has solidified help solidify solidify. Why what I think is a pretty good offensive line moving forward and and you know miles and I talked about this and our video yesterday? There's some good things that are happening with the raiders. When you're talking about your Darren Waller's and your trump Brown's new Josh Jacobson Players that are Max crosby young and players who are showing that they could be valuable pieces moving forward and what that allows you to do. Is You go into your off season now. Focusing on other areas whereas last off season it was just everywhere you looked on the roster. There were just you know Hall Hall after Hall and question after question after question Shen will. Now there's some answers to a lot of those questions hunter Renfro in the slot. which really gets used to be able to narrow your your your needs down? Your immediate idiot needs and you're always gonNA build for depth you're always going to You know Address all positions as as much as possible. But there's some players now Who have answered some questions question? Definitively and I and I think that's a good thing and unfortunately portrayed you know he's not gonNA play the rest of the season but but moving forward he such valuable piece so that that was a home run Fridge citing yet miles update us on her Renfro Vinnie just mentioned him there. He was spotted a practice on Wednesday. Do we expect aspect Hunter Renfro to come back into the fall here soon. Jon Gruden sounded like the he expects Renfro to play this week which is good news. I mean Derek Carr obviously can use another weapon instance. I think especially since hunter has been out. There's basically been very very very little production out of the wide receiver spot. So he's somebody that's consistent target on third downs and I thought it was also interesting. That Jon Gruden said that Renfro could play a role as a punt returner in this game too so it does seem like like renfrew is on track to play this week and of course he hasn't played the last few weeks. Because of that rib injury so definitely good news for for that aspect of things. The Andre in Washington Jalen Rashard. These guys that we're expecting to see more of also in this upcoming game here against the chargers which Jacobs out so wouldn't you look at this. China China is a timeshare in the backfield. I would expect any that. We See De'andre Washington may be on twelve to fifteen carries up most on Jalen Rashard and those passing down rolls. Third Down Situations What do you expect production-wise and what do you see out of these? Two players trying to fill the shoes. Josh Jacobs took capable players and they develop a trust in a bond with whip. Derek Carr in that that always helps funny. I was talking to IRA ask Derek yesterday yesterday Because we're talking about all the injuries you know the browns and Josh and Hunter Missing Time and all the various injuries That they've dealt out with this year and I was like you know. Is this unique. Have you experienced this before. His and his his comment was this must be your first year. Here I mean he knows that this is my first year here so you know as laugh. Because I've been through a lot here so it was you know unfortunately for for Derek. This is almost kind of the norm whether talking about injuries or you know players coming in and out or or a lack of help from the from the roster and supporting cast So it was like most teams. This amount of injuries would be something that some players have experienced this for the first time or maybe coach like man. I've never been through something like this before for but unfortunately for Derek Carr is sounds like this is kind of the norm for his career. So far in in Oakland with the raiders but But yeah I think the two running backs a lot like what they did last week and there are two weeks ago when they had to carry the entire load So they're in pretty good shape. I running back as well when you talk about adopting and obviously you're star in Josh Jacobson Where as miles just mentioned you know getting hunter back helps But it was really glaring last week just and in these games that he missed just how few opportunities wide receivers numbers really gotten during Bob in the offense is Kinda glaring that when when you when you go into games and your wide receivers are just absent right now. And that's that's an area of the raiders have to You know fix an address during the offseason. Yeah last week. Darren waller silently went over thousand yards cards with the overall numbers on the season. I mean he's been Derek. Cars obviously a big target and favorite target. You could say He's had a tremendous season. He's done so much for the raiders and like he really wasn't on a lot of people's radars until the end of training camp. I mean I'm a little surprised that maybe he was in on the raiders. Pro Bowl selections but When you look at him and his presence on the field I think if you had healthy wide receivers it he could definitely be somebody? That's matchup problem for a lot of defenses but when we start looking at the chargers defense and you have somebody he likes Joey Bosa out there as running around and being a tremendous playmaker that he is Do you think that this is going to be a rough game for car at all. All Miles I think that part of the reason why Darren Waller was not selected. The pro bowl. Is that the raiders on a winning team. You know I think I think the the also the privilege of popularity contests in. It's a complete joke so like I'm I don't know I don't put much stock into pro bowl. Selections in the fact is that pro during Waller's an alternate so. There's a very good chance that he will go. You know in the first place because people don't like going to the pro bowl because it's not that good of an event I mean yes it's in Orlando and you if you're a guy with kids to take your family and all these things but I'm telling you I've been there the joke so like I think all pro rolex and things like that are almost a bit more meaningful and yes. There are escalators in people's contracts. So like that does make it a little bit more meaningful the pro. The pro bowl is like this mythical thing that was some for some reason keeps going on and I guess it's because that it draws ratings but like oh my goodness approval is the worst I the other thing about like der Waals role in this offense and I'm not sure if I'm actually answering the question that you're asking sorry but this point like came to me and and I kind of want to make it so you will get jared cook and what he was in the offense last year basically earn waller has taken that and expanded upon it but the problem is right now in today's NFL. You can't just have somebody that is at the tight end in that you're only weapon in the offense rate. If you look at San Francisco what they do with George Kit. There are other weapons on the outside. You can look at New Orleans. They've got jared cook over by the way Michael Thomas is having maybe the best statistical wide receiver season season ever somebody else Zach Ertz in Philadelphia. They've got another guy like Alshon Jeffery you can go on and on and on but I think because you've only have one one sort of weapon that is a pass catcher in the last few weeks if defenses can key in on that then there's nothing else that you can really do as offense offense. That's probably what's been leading to some of these mismatches on the outside. I mean these guys can't separate anyway but when you only have one guy during waller that can do what he does. It makes everything more difficult but you asked about whether or not I thought it would be difficult for car right. Yes okay so on at that point I think the raiders just have to be able to do something offensively. Obviously it's going to be tougher with Josh Jacobs being out and it's GonNa be tougher there with just. The simple fact of the matter is like this offense has not been able to do anything in the second. Half of games vinnie's written about this this week. Rana renfrew will probably be able to help them along those lines especially on third downs. But look if you can't do anything in the second half against the chargers man like you're GonNa be put in top Hof positions because as bad as Philip rivers has been at times this year there were also times where he just throws the ball up to Mike Williams or canal in or checks it down awesome neck learn Karen he makes the guy miss because often has a chance to set a receiving record for running back this year in the NFL so like there are all kinds of weapons that the the chargers still you'll have you'll be playing them in southern California and yes it will probably be a pro raiders crowd but I still think that there is something to the travelling element that you might have to combat so. I don't know it's going to be tough. Obviously for Parker to combat somebody like Joey. Bosa like Melvin Ingram A- who and they flip sides and they do all kinds of really good things pass rush so we'll have off to see if it'll be a rough day for car but it could be but I I gotta I if I could just add one thing you know when you're talking about waller and you're right you're absolutely absolutely right You know it's during that there's not enough around him on the perimeter To really take advantage of what he's all about but man. When you're the raiders and you get through this frustration that that's happened these last four games and how the season is this kind of unfolded for him when you start thinking that okay but we do have waller? We do have Josh Jacobs we do. Have our two tackles situated Your Ritchie I e cognitive. We're not talking about him. What a what A? What a pleasant surprise? He's he's been on a on an offensive line that's grown by leaps and bounds. Since last year. When you start talking about okay we have all these pieces? If you're the raiders now we just have to supplement that a little bit it just gets so so much more narrow so there is a lot of positives to think about. When you're thinking about this offense as bad as has been at times it's just missing a couple of pieces and they actually had it? We all know that with Antonio Brown but we all know you know how that unfolded but moving forward. Alright it's not as dire as As it might seem the statistics might seem or show or the wins and losses have shown. Recently they're pretty close. The big question of course is is Derek Carr going to be the guy that Is is still here when all those pieces are in place. And I'm I'm not so sure about All of that I just feel like John. Burdens in completing his second year with the raiders. How how much is he going to potentially bring in his own guy made some comments yesterday on the on the on the call with with charger? Writers you know he was asked. What kind of a quarterback you prefer is very narrow question? And would you prefer this kind of quarterback or that kind of quarterback while the quarterback that he ended up describing that he would prefer isn't really Derek Carr has shown the last couple of years and certainly not this year so it raises a lot of eyebrows. Was You know whether or not Jon Gruden was kind of tipping his hand a little bit on on what he might do quarterback but there are pieces on this offense. That's what's so frustrating They just it's not a complete product yet but it's close to being fairly complete. The question is I think anyway is Derek target is still be a part of it and that's been what you've seen a lot of the fans talking about on social media this week Especially after the four losses you know everybody starts to turn to is to what. The problem is with the raiders and a lot of the fans seem to think that added Derek Carr in fact I had asked on social media from somebody. You know some of the fans to give us their take what they WANNA. Let's see here in the last. Couple of games from the raiders and one of them was saying that they were kind of looking for more from cars. So I wanted head to get your take on that Miles d think that this is a Derek Carr situation where they're gonNA look for an upgrade here in the off season or the you know they might just come to Vegas with him being the face of this team. If there isn't somebody that is available that they feel would be an upgrade. Well I like the way that Vinnie has described this in his writing in in conversations that we've had to I think it's you have to go through the process entrust that process and let the chips fall. Where they they? May I think if they fall in love with a guy whether it's in the draft whether it's a free agent whether even if it's somebody that they evaluate you know that is on somebody it may be on their own practice squad writer somebody that they've had the entire season. Maybe Sean Kaiser's that Guy Account. I don't think it would be Sean Kaiser but I'm just saying right. Look let your process assess go through whatever it is and then if that leads you to believe you know if you're at whatever draft position in say Justin. Herbert is your guy you know. You've evaluated these quarterbacks you end up loving Justin Herbert Okay and you have to first round picks trade up. Go get that guy and and that's the way that you have to do it because quarterback is the most important position out there and I think we've seen enough from Derek Carr to know that he's not necessarily a difference maker I think he's a decent game manager and unfortunately I don't know that at least in the last couple of years we've been able to see what Derek Carr can really do with a full complement of wide receivers when you think about it on Cooper got traded in the middle of last year You have to go back to really when they had crabtree and Cooper back in two thousand sixteen season more Derek Carr ended up breaking his ankle toward the end of the year to see. I think what car can really do with a full complement of weapons and also an offensive system. That was very kind to him. mm-hmm but I think at this point we've seen that Derek Carr is not necessarily the kind of guy that's going to be able to elevate guys around him to pass a certain lovell. All right I think when you have guys that you can say okay well. The wide receivers aren't the best Lala. That means that the quarterback has to do a little bit more. And I think this season we've not seen Derek card do that so a Jon Gruden has been very complimentary. I think of Derek Carr in his public statements and said that you there's been so much around him that he can't control and we think he's done a good job managing this and that third however I think if you look at the totality of Durra Cars Career. It's been six years now and I think at that point you kind of know. What a quarterback is and I think that because of that we know that Derek Carr is not necessarily early the difference maker that you might need in order to take team over the top there? You have it everybody to go. Yeah in in in so many words but I and I think that I think there's a lot of fans that are beginning to share that sentiment and I think got and and and you know you had mentioned kind of what I wrote about. You know Be Open to the process of folly love with a new quarterback and then like you said exactly aptly let the chips fall where they may. If that's where your process takes you then follow it. You don't want to be two years down the road going. Wow we weren't. We didn't give ourselves that opportunity the name and therefore we missed out on the next Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes and too many teams get caught in that where they don't even consider it they you don't even think about it Because they're comfortable enough with what they currently have even though what they currently have might just might have you know The the lowest of ceilings. But it's it's a it's a comfortable ceiling for them because they know what they have in in that To me and I I. I agree with with miles. I think that it's imperative. That the raiders be open to that and and and be open to to falling in love with somebody letting their a process dictate what the results were and if they don't then there's no reason obviously you you keep your car in that situation and then and then you you you look again next year or or or whenever that case by but But you have to be open to it now Especially and I don't think they necessarily been open to being the open like that at at the quarterback position but I think now is the time for them to be. Let me have this one thing too. I think. That if the raiders defense since we're much better than it is right now. I would feel a little bit differently because then you could have a guy who is a dirty term sometimes but is a game manager and I think that's it's what Derek Carr can be. If he's got the right complement of weapons. He can be a great game manager for you especially if you have team has a very good defense. But I don't know that he's the type of quarterback and can overcome all the different things that are around you and now can still elevate you to a different level. So yes I if I had a handicap at right now I would still say that. Derek Carr is the raiders starting quarterback when they opened the twenty twenty season in Las Vegas. But I think that you should be open to looking for new quarterback and seeing where the chips go as Darna was the guy that actually put the tweet and I wanted to read the tweet but it was weird when I looked forward initially twitter had hit it because is it. Set May contain sensitive material but found. It's not sensitive at all. It's his his. His handle is at Raider nation. Seven oh two. It says what does he i. WanNa see from the raiders in the last two game kaiser he says not because I think that he's going to step in and set the world on fire far from it. I would just like to see something different we've seen with. The current quarterback has to offer and I find it wanting plus I don't WanNa mess up our traff position and he. It'll be pretty interesting if they lose this game to the chargers where they go On that because I'm not so sure that Jon gruden wouldn't kind of. There's a part of him that we'd like to put Sean out there to see what he's all about and the ramifications of that move that's what actually ends up happening. would be pretty far reaching. Yeah I mean obviously you're you're you might lose Derek Carr as a result mentally and emotionally And you might lose it would just be it would be interesting to see what the ramifications of something like that you know were to be. But I do think that there's part of Jon Gruden and Greg Olsen and the raiders organization that. Let's just see what you can do with live have reps in a real game Playing on the radio now granted it would be a tough situation Fred. Bigger plan the call Like that in Denver. But you know I think there's a curiosity acidy level there but I wonder if they're they're willing to To deal with the consequences of making a quarterback move and and benching car in the last game of the season. I if they're okay with that enough to play a Sean At the end of the year all right well. Let's look into a little little bit about the game but first before we do that. Let's hear from Raider Cody. Who Again I had said earlier in the show had been in the black hole and he's going to sure his experience with us and he's going to add to this Derek Carr conversation as well so let's hear from Raider Cody Right now? All right joining Vegas Vegas nation. Now we have reader. Cody has a podcast with the raiders. beat airing on the blue wire podcast network as we are and like he said when we were on your show cody. We're like cousins right so thank you so much for joining us again man. Oh no not a problem Thanks for having me. It's a big time coming to the end of the season. And you you know trying to squeeze out any last. Football content is Is Good thing to do right now. Yes for sure man. I wanted to ask you before we start talking about like your experiences this this past weekend because you were there in Oakland in the black hole. I think I actually saw you on the broadcast couple times and I like that. If you put your wife clapping by the way it was really really awesome. But I wanted to ask you like how did you get started doing your show your podcast. It started maybe a little bit earlier than and this time last year. the raiders Kinda funk and for me. You know. I'm just a fan. I'm nobody special. Everything I've done is just kind of been my own choice. Nobody's having me do anything anything And I just Kinda got frustrated. I it's one of those things. I guess Sometimes I feel not embarrassed as a fan but I through certain times we can do better and and reminding the fan base especially you know because I see generations older than US booster clubs and all this stuff that they do to You know kind of promote bigger than football things Raider nation as a family. And I think it I just felt like it was. I don't WANNA say my calling but I feel like it's kind of my spot I wanted to create to you know. Make sure our generation and keeps up with what they're doing especially now going into Vegas Trying to pick up you know. Make sure with Oakland get on their good terms gets is plugged in as I could with the community there and It did it worked wonders especially in the black hole and everything else and Now making making the move to Vegas after this year I couldn't be anymore excited and You know just trying to do the most I can with this show leading up to it. Well it's get into this last game that you guys had an Oakland first of all. How many times have have you ever been in the black hole? Because I saw you we were there you and your wife went and you went to this game This last one here against the Jaguars and you were in the black hole always is laws is also like How many times have you gone to the black hole? That was my first time I've talked to guerrilla real a couple of times and Connected with the guy that owns the seats and I talked to him in April. I said Hey as soon as these tickets are are soon as the schedule comes out. I'm buying the final game and I think it was. I believe leave April fourteenth. I forget the actual date. I called him. I said look schedules out. I'm going to the Jaguars game. I want those tickets. And he's like schedules out of Mike. Yes schedules out acidity This is my game. We're going to make it happen and it was just such a crazy experience. I mean. Of course I mean. The only thing that went wrong was the scoreboard But besides that everything anything else perfect sitting there You know it's funny gorilla really you're going to see a lot of him in Vegas but People just were sitting there the whole time. Just bring them food and I'm sitting there next to him and bring him ribs. Ribs are bringing up tried to. He got a box of candy. Canes he got pound cake and he's just sitting there is breaking me off pieces and we're sitting there and just much in the whole game so it was a it was a pretty exciting exciting experience and I definitely wasn't hungry as also mad. I mean there's one thing you mentioned like the scoreboard you know. Obviously that's not what Raider fans wanted for the last game played in Oakland left for kind of like a bittersweet feeling. I think for a lot of the fans and I think especially car kind of got a little awkward. When he went out there he went right up Carrillo Rela and he went to him directly and then he kind of just took off after a couple minutes there and thinking a couple people so you What was his reception attention with the black hole when he came over? Well You I. He walked up to a kid that was behind a It was actually like a field goal in that was up and the whole crowd behind the kid was just like the kid up against the railing trying to get to derrick. You got frustrated and kind of backed up I eventually. They pulled the kid off and he went back into the locker room Him and his mom went back. The Locker Mafias little hurt sore. What was going on with that But then he came around in Shook guerrillas had Actually recognize me. Surprised told me appreciated to me. So he took off after that and you could just see the look on his face Just not what he wanted to do. I kind of I think. Felt like he was facing someone or a group of people or facing his family that he feels like he let down. And the way I don't want to put this on the fans because it was a very small percentage of the fans did this but I was. I was pretty embarrassed by a small group of fans. The way they reacted breaking chairs out throwing trash I don't I don't feel Phil. I don't like sitting in front of the black hole when players are coming over and I feel like beers getting sprayed all over me so I it was. It was a rough go around rough ending right. They're not the not the farewell we wanted wanted. But that's what we were given and now it's kind of I guess we you know we turn the page ago the next chapter in You know I don't know maybe some of those fans stay. You know like you said the next chapter being here in Las Vegas when you're out there you're talking to the fans you are fans though when you're talking to people about Las Vegas that are like from the bay area like you were out there this weekend and you know just generally in your podcast whistling kind of feeling that you get from fans about the move. Well the kind of the same I think is me. It's kind of. It's a general popular opinion. The there's fans I think that don't WanNa follow the team And those are fans that I think are already frustrated with the team and it gives them a reason to not fall and I understand that but for the most part everybody recognizes the raiders as a brand For me I mean I'm sure you guys collect all your analytics as as well but For me and my podcast. I mean the Los Angeles Area for me still my biggest area. It's still my most popular area Vegas is up in their Oakland's up in there but I mean. La's been the biggest one and we haven't been in La for what's been twenty five years or something like that so I Dunno I is just I growing pains that we're getting through but I think the fan base has taken to it. Well unfortunately we don't get to Experience you know the one thing I will say. There's GonNa be a lot of great things in Vegas. I guess I'll say the the the tailgates won't be the same but I keep saying is you know we're going to go to Vegas. Vegas is going to have its own thing and I think it could be just as good just in a different way. So so That's kind of what I'm looking forward to to see what the next chapter holds and see what the fan base is GonNa adapt to create memories for Vegas. We look forward had to happen. You out here at some point and if you ever come to Vegas you have to drop us a line but I want to get one more thing Your take on it with a lot of people kinda rumbling right now about Derek Carr You know will he be the future this franchise. Will he be the guy. That's coming to Las Vegas to lead this franchise do you you think in the offseason that they hold on a Derek Carr. I think this off season. They do Just because I don't really see like any other viable options. I've kind of went through. I I wait a lot of different things You can't really go up. I feel like there's one good quarterback coming out of the strap that people are going to see us clear-cut plug in and play. And if you'RE GONNA GO TO VEGAS with a new quarterback especially a rookie quarterback it's going to be a guy that is going to be like a Joe Borough. But he's GonNa be. It's GonNa take too much for the raiders to get In our range of quarterbacks in there I just don't see an upgrade there and I don't see why Mark Davis and Mike Jon Gruden would even try and gamble Any of these quarterbacks in this range so I see you know we still have two games left in the season. Hopefully things are turning around and a quarterback is doing some good things. The supporting cast isn't helping them. We can go on and on on and on about that but of course until we get wins. This conversation still going to keep getting brought up so I think for this year or should I say for this next year in Vegas number. Four will be the starting quarterback and hopefully now with all the draft capital of that we have given Mike mayock five picks or I think see five picks on the top one hundred. Hopefully you know we can surround them with some better weapons and really get you know to the point to where which we thought. Was this year when we got Antonio Brown we thought okay. We have Antonio Brown. We're getting tyrone Williams we got. There's new running back. There Waller should step up. Offense of line should be better. We're finally going to get a taste of what Derek Carr is going to be. I mean hopefully we can get back to that two thousand sixteen form and Weapons around and just kind of rumbled injuries. And there's no excuse but We just haven't got that real sample size yet so Consistency is what we're I think trying to preach now in the Raiders Organization. You know we're we're building a a long term home in Vegas We got a low long-term head coach. We have a long term general manager and Mike and You know I don't think that they're gonNA WANNA shake things up too bad leading up to twenty twenty. Yeah I agree. I don't think if there's somebody there may be in free agency they kick look and have some sort of competition but if there's not somebody that's like really going to be an upgrade like you said. I don't think I think that they do that right now. I think maybe they transition here with who they have at the helm so we'll see how things go and of course with the wide receivers as well Like you said lots of things have happened. There are lots of injuries. RENFRO Tyrone Williams having to take that one spot when he was Kinda thought of as the two and then you know. Now we've got like re Rico gathered in the mix and stuff like that so Keelan dos. It's people that weren't expected to be in those roles so we'll see hi. Everything plays out next year. But Hey I really appreciate you coming on. I appreciate your time Ed. Thank you so much and we'll have to do this again soon. Oh absolutely how do you think you guys in Vegas Nation. Thank you for having me on. Yeah this is just the beginning. I'm sure we'll hear from each other a lot more often than the future share before I let you go let people know where they can find your podcast and uh on social media anywhere. Just search at Raider cody on twitter. going I mean I guess you can follow me. I got a little. I'm a little wild on twitter. But it's all raiders content. It's all good fun. I'm a crazy fans of fallen crazy. Fans gave me a fall. And everything all my information's at Raider. Cody Dot Com pretty easy to find. Nice Nice thank you again so much man have a great holiday you to see all right again. That was raider. Cody can check his show out on the Blue Wire network where you find this show as well And we plan to probably do some more stuff with him as well throughout the year and some of our other blue wire cousins as we called it. So let's go go ahead get into this game here against the chargers The raiders heading into La. This we've been talking a lot about Derek Carr in the chargers defense against the past guy is something fierce. Here's right now in the NFL. The defense brings forth against the past and the chargers are only allowing about one hundred and ninety seven yards through the air each game. mm-hmm points right now and yards. They're like fifth and total yards and the NFL allowing about three hundred and seven total yards a game. So this this is going to be one of those matchups. Where the raiders have to dig? I've being to be able to produce on offense and as we've been talking about that's been a struggle especially early in the second half of the game so Vinnie. What's your take when you just look at the XS and Os at this game? And how the raiders. will perform. Come Sunday US tough. That's a It is a good defense. And they're attacking from all angles from all levels of the defense You talk about the the pass rush with Joey Bosa And then the secondary which is really good during James is back there lurking. You know. It's it's interesting I hate to keep harping on Derek Carr. But you know we we we. We have mentioned and That you know it's not that it's unfair but you know we haven't been able to get a good read necessarily on him because he hasn't had the pieces around him When I look at I was analyzing this chargers? Steve I was thinking you know everybody in need of a quarterback to I'm not suggesting anything or saying anything or reporting anything living here but that would be team that I would like to see a Derek Carr on just deceit with because there are the necessary pieces You know from a skill position session. The defense offensive line is pretty good. you know so so not to harp on Derek Carr but for his sake if it doesn't work out with the with the raiders. I I would like to see him. Go to a Tennessee Titan team. That has some nice pieces or or charger team. A team like that to see what he is capable of with a the necessary supporting cast. But I digress You know I think they're going to have the support I think it's going to be a raider crowd I think it would have been a lot better Had they continued to win. What an amazing sight that would've been that in Carson Had had the raiders. Still been legitimate the playoff contention right now that that would have been off the hook there for Raider fans in Carson. But it's probably not going to be. I think the I think the support will be dissipated as a result result but not by much. But it'll be a little bit less than than I should have been But it's tough defense to deal with obviously You've got Philip Rivers on the other side He's always capable of of of you know putting together a really good game. He's been up and down this year but mostly down I'm not sure if it's age I don't know what the what the situation is there with him. But he's just as likely to throw five touchdown passes as he has for interceptions interceptions. and You wonder which Philip that you're GonNa get in which Philip the raiders are going to be dealing with but He takes chances and I think that could would help. A raiders defense. I'm really impressed with some of the younger defensive. Backs at the raiders. I mean not a whole bunch of them but You know I wrote about John. Mullin this week and the game that he put together Last week he gets Jaguars and hopefully for him so that he can build on Scott clearly sterile played a really good game on Sunday. It was only twenty three snaps So they managed his His his workload but the snaps that he did play even pro football focus as pointed to that it was one of his best games You know the airmax crosby came up with another sack. Marquel Lee played played a good game. So you know that it. It was unfortunate how that game played out against Jaguars felt like the defense actually played a winning game and and it'll be interesting to see if they could carry that over a against charges. I just think there are some opportunities to make some place to come up with some dirt on overs with Philip Discharges office so miles you actually wrote about will compton. This week of of any was bringing up some of the young defenders there and he's now the signal caller from the defense. I mean what do you think Gruden seen a will compton to give him that responsibility. In some ways it's probably just attrition. I think that since the since fantasy perfect went out which I mean you can maybe discuss the merits of having advantis perfect. Is Your plan to be a middle linebacker and say you know what if you want about that but I think since that happened you were kind of playing to your whitehead a little little bit out of position because he has been a middle linebacker in the past has called signals before including last season. But I think in an ideal ideal world the raiders have him Moore's outside linebacker side linebacker type and then you have another middle linebacker who can call the signals. Who can be out there every single down and who can play a little little bit better maybe against the run so I think that's part of why they wanted to see? What will compton could do there? And I mean it's interesting. You know talkable Compton. And he said to me you know I'm probably more on the back back-nine of my career than I am. You know in the beginning of it and you know as a linebacker you go through different. Things came in the League as an undrafted. Free agent there is. Maybe there's been a shorter shelf life for some of those kinds of guys so I think it's interesting you know might not want will compton to be. You're starting middle linebacker. If the Las Vegas Raiders in two thousand twenty but there could still be a role for that kind of Guy Because I think a your backup middle. LINEBACKER is very important position in be that kind of guy it can also help you on special teams and that's something that he definitely embraces too. So this is going to be an interesting little. Try Out for will compton over the next two games. Obviously things worked out pretty well offer that guy in the first half and then it in through the third quarter really I believe. The Jaguars only had six first downs entering the fourth quarter and then of course the wheels came off entirely so we will see what that means at that position over the course of the next couple of weeks as we break down this matchup. Here raiders chargers Gers in L. A.. Vinnie we had a good one two punch here on the chargers. Offense as well with Austin Melvin Gordon and the Backfield for this team Like Williams a big deep threat and they of course have pro bowler and Keenan Allen as well as that number one target for this team. So I mean Philip Rivers Unit. Mr Mr Jekyll Glyn. Hi as you lose earlier. We have seen the good of him in the battle Hymn and in this game. They have so many weapons that the raiders are going to have to look out for where to defend against. Who Do you think out of the chargers offense right now? Is the big leader. The guy that's GONNA stand out the big playmaker that they're going to have to contain. Well I think what the chargers it's it's a it's a bike midi kind of a situation And that's the challenge of playing offense like that because you do have Belvin Gordon. You do have Kina now in You Philip rivers and Austin actor so there's a lot of people that you have to account for You Hunter Henry there to their tight end so there's a lot. There's a lot of people that you have to account for but I I always go back to you. Got To stop the run first and foremost If they could get that churning turning then that makes it it just opens everything up for Philip rivers in terms of the play menu But but one thing that you know they turn the ball over. They turn the ball over over I didn't Melvin have two or three fumbles last week or multiple almost for sure And Philip is prone to throwing interceptions obviously so I think that the The raiders would really help themselves If they could take advantage of that situation turnover situation You know if you if you let fill up just sit back there and and take you apart and let the run game you know. Get going they have the capability of possessing the ball and and you know Putting together long drives back their they've their mistake prone and I think that's where the raiders really help themselves this week. Defensively on on taking advantage of the mistakes of the charges do make especially when it turning the ball over three picks Rivers through and two. Fumbles for Gordon. I know the fumbles for sure. Because I had Gordon Fantasy team are let's go ahead and give our picks on this one. We'll get you guys outta here of any. Who are you going with to come out with? A W ell said is all when all is said and done here. chargers and it's GONNA be. It's GonNa be hard Going on the road and you're on the writers are obviously dealing with injuries and everything else but I have a good feeling about them this week. And I I think that I think they win. Twenty four twenty one miles. What's your pick on this one Gosh I don't know at. This is another game where I I WANNA pick the raiders. But I just don't really feel good about it. I think that the chargers are going to rebound from their seven seven turnover. Gay and I think that it's going to be tough. For the raiders. Defense to contain the chargers offense if they play the same if the often okay let me put it this way. If the raiders often still can't do anything in the second half then the chargers are going to have a lot of opportunities to come back in. I know that the last time that I personally saw Philip rivers play in person. It was Oh for seven on that last minute drive and they had at a time out in like it was one of the most ridiculous things that I've ever seen in Philip rivers probably washed. But I don't know I just. I feel like the chargers are going to win this one. Twenty twenty seven twenty four. I don't really have a good reason for it. I know I don't really have a good reason for it but it's the thing you know when I don't really feel confident of pick I really. They get wishy washy because there are some times when I'm like. Yes the raiders going to do this like I feel good about it. I see the numbers and I feel like this week. I don't really feel that great about about it but I just I. I don't know the intangibles make me think that the charges are going to win as you order the Code Red. Sorry I just wanted to make miles make a decision I well you know. Miles is kind of making me rethink because I I'm looking at my scores. Twenty twenty one and I mean again. You'll Carl Carlson. Carlson field goal being the difference. I don't know that that might be a little Little bit tough but But yeah it's one of those games. Where because of the injuries because of the way the raiders are playing his miles perfectly sad especially in the second half? When you win games or lose games they have not been playing well in the second half especially offensively Salihi so i? I don't remember the last time I've seen them together. Four quarters of football. They have it since I've started cover. Yeah you you haven't seen it at all all right so why pick. I'M GONNA go. I like the twenty four but I'm gonNA go seventeen and unpicking the chargers on this one. But that'll do it for us here today on the Vegas Nation podcast podcast. Don't forget to check out VEGAS NATION DOT COM. Get the VEGAS NATION APP and find us on your social media biggest nation wherever your favorite platform arm is Vegas nation is brought to you by. Sdn Sports Mobile by station casinos. 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Raiders first season win

"Vegas Nation podcast sponsored by your local southern Nevada Toyota dealer What's up football fans it's time for another addition here at the Vegas Nation podcast brought to you by your local southern in story but first I'd like to get into some of what is going on right now with the raiders the team has after the overtime win lost I are raiders beat writer Michael Belkin who's on the line with us here as well we're going to get into the raiders and chargers today as well as their huge act that type of over if you looked at the line but big win for the raiders and coming up a divisional game against the chargers these two teams have met one hundred seventeen full participation level in Wednesday's practice when the raiders began practicing for this week's game you look left APPA Colton Miller is dealing with a he didn't practice at all Senator Ron Hudson and right Dr Game Jackson continued to play through ankle and pectoral injuries respectively the they've been dealing with those so Michael What can you tell us your their day to day what can you tell us about the status of the offensive line some of these key players in their injuries what's going to happen going forward well there's a lot to it when you look at first. The precedent at the raiders will be setting on Sunday against the chargers they will have a rookie at left tackle which is intrigue of the Raiders Offensive Line going into this game but this unit is banged up right in Parker was the only one of them who have see that was not my prediction seventeen fourteen I would have been more what I would have thought I if I was a betting woman I definitely would've taken the under I don't think even one of the sharps would fourth bureau the Raiders will have a rookie at both starting offensive tackle position so that is the new president and that probably would be enough in terms of just the e a lot of important key players especially on the offensive line right now I want to look at what's going on with Donald Penn I have heard that he's on the I. R. as well as Melian his injuries times and Oh yeah this is going to be one that is going to be very important for the division chargers right now two and two raiders one and three so AFC west Silverman somebody who has already worked with the team a bit so that's another move that they've made I don't know how much right now he could be somebody that can contribute certainly would the raiders offense align well but they still got to get through to full games before reaching it and also notice today that the Raiders Brown in own linemen into reserve Wednesday with a Groin Injury Brandon Parker are another key third round pick out of North Carolina and t really making that jump to the so I mean the yardage is there he's over thirteen hundred passing yards but when you look at his passer rating not so good and I wonder how much obviously he's struggling the NFL and now he's GonNa make it further leap into the starting lineup so for the first time since the nineteen th NFL F L L L MERV is the coordinator it's been golden bill or the first pick is there left tackle doing a fine job at it worth adding at right tackle now with Donald Penn the places fairly serious right knee injuries in brace he was a limited participant left guard let you assemble as you mentioned he's he's got a pretty serious right knee injury as well in helping that but I think part of the struggles with Derek Carr this year he has a lot of struggles scored six touchdowns with seven interceptions behind that line and even being insecure if you will or not so confident that he'll have the protection being that he's got all these moving parts on that line right now multiple week quite pass them so we look at is Y- is limping to Los Angeles the bye week in a couple weeks Overtime win against the Cleveland Browns last week forty five forty two who much point is that there would have been the final score not me some of the five top edge defenders in the NFL I would put Joey Bosa and that same mix of L. Joey Bosa the pass rush just isn't where they would want it to be I I don't know necessarily that how you know Bosa coming in if he does You Know Raiders gotTa keep climates bomber with a cheese four no you gotTA keep up it's definitely so achieves Patrick mahomes he's on fire but that's a completely different place for his teammates and I think the raiders missed that as much as they missed Khalil Mack himself and I think that's what's happening in la the line that much but I think it does what's your take on that yeah I mean Joey Bosa he's a freak you talk about right and you mentioned that Khalil Mack being with the bears now I actually saw a statistic before the Cleveland Game saying that Khalil Mack had had more sacks than than the entire the game was on fire you could see that they were playing with the sense of urgency I saw that when they when it came down to it they were really holding tight especially on that last push back before the injury happened there were kinda barely holding on and now you're GonNa have all these guys are banged up Nick Dub is going to affect them somewhat but I gotta say you know I was really the ball pretty quick and attack the middle which has been doing Jerry Cook and something I'd seen on Michael I believe I actually read this on your twitter that the chargers actually said that Harry and he's got three touchdowns I mean for somebody over thirty in the NFL as a running back I don't know that you can say that that is something that is okay and so I think you have to this season have really felt the loss of an elite player and not just that individual player but how that super above and beyond extraordinary but it is there's not many guys over thirty that are doing that kind of work as a running back in the NFL period could have been a bigger. There's cornerback Daryl Worley who they'll get back this week so not having Joey Bosa is something that somewhat related something the raiders can somewhat relate to locker rooms you get to talk to all the different players and I believe you've heard from the players just what kind of I guess person marshawn it's mirroring his two thousand fourteen season with the seahawks right now he's on pace for that kind of a season he's got three hundred yards he's averaging four point four yards how do you think that that's an issue at all it could be an issue because the but they've been playing fast and I think there's been releasing the ball real quick but when you're so banged up in the old line the chargers guys like Melvin Ingram and others on the defensive line granted Corey leauge it is a defensive Lineman who they end without this season because he was suspended the first four games much I think they just appreciate him for the freak show that he is and I say that on the field I'm not talking about him ready to you would think he'd be slowing down you think he might be less physical or less able to pose his will on these twenty somethings it makes those around him better when you turn on the Chicago Bears Games a season you see not only Khalil mack dominant you see how his presence creates by Cleveland when they held out Carlos hide out of the end zone so when you look at that I think they definitely have seen a spark how much though it's like Gilbert D it didn't go its way and ultimately spoke team had a chance in overtime and only but yeah it's Lynch is when it comes to being such a key member of the team and how he is on the field what can you tell us a little bit about what some of the players are saying early he goes over to the offense alignment and I'm told from one of the lyman as something along the lines of just follow me we're gonNA linebacker but man you watch him and it's unbelievable I mean even the referee think these Alan when he's not doubt he just has his motor and top of that yeah you say the the offense the offensive stats from Sunday were pretty good. We're kind of seeing a resurgence of marshawn lynch I'd say Dare I say give forty two points a Baker Mayfield but they gave the raiders off his good field position overall Good David Pogue I'm Gary Connolly cared I I saw that the Holbein Jinyan yes certain aspects of his persona that people don't know always how to take but one own against the Myles Garrett but when you got Melvin Ingram coming up you're gonNA that pass was going to be big for the charge Joey Bosa is not there but they're causing to continue to do what he's doing released where I wanted to just go locker by locker and ask certain is who I thought would provide good perspectives from just being around marshawn aw man but it was a great day for martial going for one hundred thirty yards rushing twenty carries I'd like to see a little more carries Marsha I know he's older back look you mentioned but and I believe you actually spoke to somebody today who res- also had that same as the assessment of Marshawn What can you tell us about Lee Smith why do you think Marsha this violent runner why do you think he runs the way he runs Jon Gruden Derek Carr both men have we're we got this you know just following me that was his mentality for an open three football team you know people like to criticize marshawn Lynch because I know he doesn't Speak Gilbert you're absolutely right that was a seventy five yard touchdown the raiders believe that because a four progress the quote unquote never was and lawn road uh wondering what's going on with younger and picking so many lion and the draft when he got so many needs at defense now those pigs are coming through I will I was wrong they're younger and it the right move sin is you've offload to Seattle and certainly in Oakland people talk about the teammate about Marshawn Lynch is and we certainly seen that I am a future hall of Famer with his running style the way he doesn't quit the way he keeps going I shouldn't as to why marshawn is that way to lease Mitt I'd get off track but the -ficiating was it was interesting to say the least there was a lot of critical calls but marshawn Lynch one of them you know he's just he's a he somebody who is dynamic off the field the way he kind of got magnet kind of brings people close to him one point during the game off the field although he's he's a very unique person but he's when he's on the field people who can do what he does I mean he's a grown man at age there Toyota let's go places let's go be spontaneous let's go out of our comfort zone Sean Lynch right now what we're going to do we're going to take a quick break here again you're Vegas Nation podcast is brought to you by your southern Nevada Toyota dealer when we come back the Toyota Rav four it's up for anything back we're going to have all the upcoming preview for you on the chargers game with the raiders are headed down to La? Let's go make the most of in the Toyota Corolla Toyota let's go places welcome back to the Vegas Nation podcast I'm your he's built as a number one he's freakishly strong I'll give you look at the ways bill time all time. He's Raiders Defensive Unit he added four at the time and the raiders three they've upped that number five the passage of the defense actually in this teams have met way over a hundred times and once in the pre postseason so this game very key game for the raiders who've just come off their first win and breaking down everything raiders coming up we have a look ahead into the chargers game again a divisional game for the raiders. AFC West Competition here these Atta Toyota dealer I'm your host Heidi Fang with Gilbert Monsanto one of our writers here for the Raiders at the Las Vegas Review Journal and we are also joined and what he had to say about him yeah let's leave the talking but here's a quick pick which I did a little project today any listen to me you probably does not care about what I say guys showed out last week they had four takeaways two interceptions talking about the officiating that game but you look at what phase where each side can point to controversial calls two fumbles strip sacked maker they really were key in that game the Browns when they were down twenty eight fourteen that strip sacked by Mo hers really changed the momentum so defense and would anything else beat him these Apex Predator elevate and that's what Lee Smith had to say about picking Colton Miller and Brandon Parker GonNa step up and I kind of feel like having Brandon Parker there right tackle is not the biggest drop off Donald Penn Donald panels arena in that position and Brandenburg held Amiga game is gail little more in his getting getting into that rhythm I think he went from eighteen carries and one thousand nine hundred twenty a week ago Marchant doing great and Michael You're there save the referendum blows the whistle soon they would have been obese quake and they're running second quarter I think it was ninety seven marshawn lynch was so angry at the kicked the football I think that that momentum will carry into the next game here a week ago but I challenge Paul Guenther the corner for the raiders to get some takeaway get some turnovers and I think take so the way his body building one and number two he's he's he's he's alive just refuses to ever die refuses to ever one thing I've always said is can't make a line and she's a cheat our live driving you built away your bill hose tidy thing again joined here with Gilbert though Manzano and Michael Belkin we're Joe Louis Benue Oh man we are here insights yeah yeah when do you see a big six on the raiders into inner central's in the same game so finally the raiders even as helping out that offense and installed right doesn't matter how hard you would a treat it's not gonna they're it's just small short it's it's just wins right after they win the leverage every time we're here but when you look at this game and how important it is I mean Jon Gruden just got his first win as the raiders head coach in his return to the team last ten times these two teams have met five and five so pretty even split yeah I don't know when we get into predictions maybe we can get into that a little bit into week five the raiders offense ranks number two and total offensive yards gain after four games behind only the LA rams is not the cheese Patrick Mahomes or the buccaneers eighty seven or forty five eighty seven eighty seven points scored again on Sunday but you look at the way the certainly the charts look at these two teams going head to head I would expect points to be scored and we just had one forty five four three two shootout I'm not saying catch that he did last Sunday he starting to take his size into the equation enabled to win contested balls and so that's just a wide receiver about you know going deep and running these drag routes going horizontal for vertical all you could do but now seen the big players Philip rivers obviously you know who's going to lead that offense and Michael What do you make us to cover the chargers you were down there for seven years so what do you mean here's our building although they don't have hunter Henry on offense they they're pretty feigned up an offensive tackle as well defense can absolutely not do is let Philip rivers get comfortable in that pocket especially at home as soon as you let that happen and he doesn't feel any kind of rush she will just fitzpatrick it's a writer John Gruden's team could not score in the fourth quarter there is they're getting so many yards and big chunks so it's going to be a wild shootout fitzpatrick's back to fits get a good sense of this unit can rise to the occasion I think it's GonNa be good atmosphere annoys should be in major defense the type of raiders atmosphere raiders friendly atmosphere But whether or not that makes a difference to turn to slow down offense it's going to be quite the test that's something that readers Gordon that running game the deep aktuell too so it's GonNa be quite the test for this raiders defense I think we're going to really haven't first full season here he's shown flashes Tiro Williams a young wide receiver was really progressed since over the chargers used to be really just but the weapons there between Keenan Allen who's about as good as any wide receiver in the NFL off the line of scrimmage to release Mike millions if former top draft quickly him walk in the sideline he is watching every single snap walking up and down the field you would think that he's a coach the way that he watches the game and and Rashawn Melvin he's one of the guys pick who he wants to target and call his shots Gilbert would you agree yeah and it's a good week to get Darryl Worley Becker who had us four-game suspension to start the season the more cornerbacks decide you have Derek Carr who somebody again we kind of mentioned earlier that the touchdown interception ratio how is he adapting do you think I did have four touchdowns and he did throw for over four hundred yards and he I think wasn't don't want to call it a mistake when he's thrown a couple of picks like to see especially when you're concerned about the defense and I think that when you have people who care and Mike you mentioned bringing back Wurley that's going to be huge for them I think that you can see that's out there early before everyone else do in the warm ups walking through the field going through his routine getting his mind right and that's the kind of thing that you want to see from these players right now in this offense we had to remember that this is what the fifth season for Derek Carr in the NFL and he's at four different play caller Yudin's offense and is this going to be a game where he can kind of follow up on some of the success he had against the browns even though he's still through a couple of picks he often doing so well I think they may even go over the eighty seven points Michael mentioned for the total for a week ago and one thing I said to me looking at you know some of these stats were you know four and having Antonio Gates who situationally although he's older and slower all know he is able to run certain routes and has that chemistry with celebrators actually of a bargain he was kind of after signing this off season he's been a great key addition Michael when we start talking about defense and pass rush on the flip sexually is greater sophistication to what the raiders are doing you look at the pieces that are in place Jerry Cook was here last year but he's GonNa improve he's going to get more comfortable I think already Derek Carr is better today in John Gruden's offense than it was last season under tied Downington there's been such upheaval such lack of consistency and constancy around him that just to be with Gruden and be in the system over the course of time In the raiders scheme and you see the trust that Jon Gruden has indirect card Avi Somebody who's going to you know quite literally quarterback but guys like Kenan out on Mike Williams that's going to be big for the raiders but there's GonNa be a whole lot of points scored both these teams defense give up over thirty points per game and then with the batting cage the locker room that's how far in there I was so yeah I it was a resounding to right there were yeah I think by the time I had and that's what Derek Carr is and so I think a good job of just setting up during car which success is pressing at times I think that is fair criticism with some of the interceptions I think we've seen that can often be ineffective Derek Carr we certainly saw that at moments in the fourth quarter when he was letting it rip ultimately the Raiders scored twenty one in the fourth quarter to force overtime cars and by we're going to get your take because you're there and embedded in game two high-scoring offenses Oh yeah you know you got Melvin Gordon he's a racehorse you got guys that you know like Amari Cooper and that one the Miami game but I think there's been maybe some miscommunication plays and reading the favor you know look forward seventy five eighty percent raiders fans that's just kinda how goes at the stubhub yet for so I would a outs are you thinking that he's adapting better to Gruden's offense now I think he is I think it will continue to improve as he gets more reps the secondary I know there were big scapegoat scapegoat a week a year ago but this year second there has been solid leadership you've mentioned earlier how doubt Jared Cook had a huge game Jordy Nelson had a huge game then Amari Cooper had a huge game who do you think takes it this week who is going to be the TV. I'll tell you I was actually setting up my camera and I was in the bowels of the stadium and I could hear it through the cement wall sue the agic before the whole meltdown with the bears. Yeah with the raiders again I think one of the things that interest me we do the photos and the video all the visuals on the sidelines for the game's here one of the thing that interests me most is how dedicated you mentioned Leon Hall is when I see get that feeling from the from the confidence of everything that happened in the third quarter and I felt like each game we've seen a different person in the offense Michael you kind of touched on this stan based on who they wanNA focus on beef based on for the defense gives them I think it's really wide open You know you would expect that the raiders really vis thing it took him to the line of scrimmage protection check out of runs passes and all the sort of thing that you know you have to do if you're a veteran quarterback who cerebral the field it was under the two minute warning for the fourth quarter to go file some photos and a Lotta people I saw a lot of boxers at that point so yeah Martavis Bryant is worth adding because it was a fifty two yard touchdown that he just dropped their wide open wide open ball was where needed so we're Jerry Cook is going to be involved game Jordy Nelson will be Mark Cooper's don't split ailment we'll see what that means over the course of the week it kind of look in the secondary when you have somebody his stature is kind of a team leader I would say and I would say Melvin to and I would say hall is too and I think they'll feed off color all know how potent that delivers offense is then it might be more of Jalen Richard type of game all the game that he had we won or over the way that they're using him is different he looked at more cooper they're moving him around a little bit more I think see delayed routes for the titans just there's a lot more going on enters can get up on the chargers then they can really afford it just keep pounding with marshawn lynch if they find themselves playing from behind standout on this team against the chargers I think that's the beauty of the raiders offense is it could be anybody in a given week and equal monitor that but I think you know Jerry Coke Jewelry Nelson Amari Cooper now these guys are GonNa be weekly fixtures matter production-wise who we're GONNA it changes the way secondary's approached their defends really the entire defense How it approaches the raiders offense so I would expect Reggie knows in the state they had a big game with the browns so it seems like guys at New Paul Gunter finally clicking and they're getting that thing right and they're helping out the new guys on the Defense Oh no the Martavis too much time to think about it but he drops it and I think we're GonNa see that more not the drop part Martavis catch those back in a big way I'm sure for their car maybe I felt a little good but have your own crowd buoy is not the best winning but to throw over four yards passing and a game where he led play him and start him and Venezia however I do own Martavis Bryant I think you'd be that deep threat guy that the raiders need and that's I would but you're going to see the raiders continue to push the ball downfield take their shots they loved namic of Martavis Bryant how that picked some answers really everybody but I was faking Martavis to be involved in this game as well I hope so I'm one of the twelve percent of people that actually own him and I did so I am taking over not quite eighty seven points but I am going to take over there Gilbert high already different from Brian because he always picked the raiders team from fourteen point comeback in the second half Michael mentioned the fishermen coming out of there with the Carlos Hyde Four Donald I down whatever it was but he led them down the so remind might start with obviously here we rotate do we give scores or do we just all right all right but it's your show I I don't know if he's trying to do much without Khalil Mack he's he feels a need to just carry this team and and sometimes push that needle too much but aggressive Derek Carr ah I just the way still rivers with Keenan Allen I think there's more game records on that team secondary's better For the raiders want to run the Football Marsh Lenzi Day part of this game you'd expect game slow is GonNa be maybe the more interesting aspects of that in terms of if the rain catches up towards the end of that game all right I understand that there is a pick them that's gone on here as part of the Vegas needs I'd like to you know I am going to go with the chargers in this one I think it's very well could be an offensive type of game gas again after the Games during the week you can always watch biggest nation and also give everyone here a follow I'm at Heidi Fan you have at G. Monzon it was really huge moment I'm sure for the raiders for Jon Gruden for him and Michael Elkin who is an street it sounds like with big you lost to the La Rams he's in it can change week-to-week it's difficult to say you were starting to seek some consciences I think Michael had a good tweet about that the raiders been waiting for that deep touchdown connection with Car Martinez Brian Gale but they're around pig to the steelers get them and then circle and Heidi you guys were at the game we go there and Oakland Liam ask you this how loud were those boos when their cars getting booed and the Third Corps after the second reception was that pretty big because I heard it undo lines go ahead I like this I'm GonNa go with the chargers and I'm in is say the final score will be thirty four to twenty one the home team that won't be a true team because raiders fans are GonNa be in the House right there you have it that'll do it here for the Vegas Nation pod the old for that that big finish off with Derek again touchdown and tie the game and then the two point to point that was big for for their car injure cookie almost say what the big upset I'm going with the raiders in a crazy shootout I don't want to go

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Raiders vs. Jets Preview

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

25:36 min | 9 months ago

Raiders vs. Jets Preview

"This episode of Vegas Nation is brought to you by. Sdn Sports from station. Casinos as T- In sports is the sports betting APP. You need this season. Sign up today A and get a new sign up bonus of fifty dollars. We'll try and like I said to bring the right kind of people in here. We think that can bill championship. Football team is the most low fans in the world and I know it hurts that we might not be the Oakland raiders forever forever but we are still ready to action. I think it's going to be a bill. Get an army coming into Las Vegas. Everyone will be nation citing thing along while Simmons of this podcast is being brought to you by. STN's mobile station casinos. Don't don't forget to check out. BIGGEST DOT COM Veasley should have any journal Dot Com. Follow all things happening with the raiders. What you think? We love hearing from Commute. This episode is also By untuckit this right now is start at the beginning or a two-game road trip. You for the raiders. The raiders headed into New York. Face adjusts who as we keep saying are not to look past. The raiders are Three Game Win Streak Right now through picking up their third win at home bagels last week before we get into everything here mice atr. Are you doing miles us. I'm Great Heidi. This is fun that we are in three different places right now. You being New York. I'm in Oakland. And Adam is in Las Las Vegas and yet through the magic of the Internet in editing. We are all together as one duty answer out. How are hey? I'm not even GonNa try the as always But now I'm actually at T.. Mobile arena right now getting already four Golden Knights and the sharks. So it'd be. It's a very busy sports weekend here in this first week here in Las Vegas in Oakland in the morning the day right. That was just like a day ago yes the day and would have seen more of the. UNLV game had there up in a travel. Woes of the awful weather here in Las Vegas. So if you guys are around the country listening Dory Vegas is not always perfect. It was a terrible day yesterday. I'm glad you are in good spirits today as we can tell and into the game breakdown. Further bands talk about with the raiders. Did last week against against the bengals. Were a team that I think we. All the raiders will blow cast a seventeen ten win still win in the books but we were talking about the things that the raiders can improve upon what they could have better in that game miles. You've looked at them practice every day this week. Workers you gather from their game planning At what direction are they heading like mentally as his team is preparing for the jets. So I think it's interesting first of all the fact that they did not perform. I think to to their standard against the Cincinnati bengals. It's not like I've seen you guys make a lot of excuses for that. I'm with these. The bengals were tough team. I think the bengals did some things things that were different. Based on the fact that they're playing You know guy like Derek Carr who's more of a stationary quarterback. Then you would have seen them playing somebody like Kylo Murray. Who is a mobile quarterback? Lamar Jackson is another guy. Who is a totally mobile quarterback? So you have to face Derek. Karna different way than you would face those guys so in now we gather Cincinnati. Bengals did some things differently they were able to get after Derek Carr. I thought pretty effectively the pocket and then you saw the raiders. Turn the ball over a couple of times then. I think we said it last week on this podcast. The wave that Cincinnati could have a chance to beat the raiders. would be if the raiders beat themselves if they turn turn the ball over and they did it twice in Cincinnati was able to take advantage of it now at the end of the game. Cincinnati couldn't really do anything. I mean you know it was one of the one of those late game situations nations. The past Bush was effective. They're able to get into the backfield and get to Ryan Finley whose name almost just escaped me there because really. He's as an anonymous quarterback. He's kind of that but I anyway. I think that the raiders now no like okay. They have to have their fundamental short up because they're going against the jets team. That is good forcing turnovers. They've still got one of the better running backs in the league and Levian Bell and they've taken it to some Opponents it's in the last couple of weeks where you could say that they're get right games right. I think from doing against dolphins in in doing the giants and beating the giants and then going against the Washington football team there and eating them as well. You can tell that the jets are on the right path in terms of getting things done now. They haven't been playing that great competition. But the raiders have to still take them seriously for this game so Adam we look at the jets defense miles. There are doing things against the round. They're greedy decent greedy staunch against holding losing closing running backs. Two hundred yards per game. So what do you mean about the jets grants as you look at Ben Against the raiders. The first thing you look at the jets I and I think the fact that they're they're a talented teams if they haven't showed it and the results are younger team That's still trying to improve and get better and certainly. They had a huge setback earlier in the season with saying you know Donald Coming Down with mono somehow as if he was some high school kid which was a weird situation in but he seems to be getting his strength back. I think it was part of when he came back. You're like wow you know. He's not playing well. I think a lot of that. You know illness supposedly Zaps you of your strength and you know it takes a while to get back into it. Feels like he's getting back there but You know defense as we mentioned is really where They succeed and you know I think lately lately it's been even better and Jamal does a big piece of that I think. The Raiders Game Plan based on talking to the guys. And you know kind of hearing them speak this week. the raiders scouting report for the jets. Defense has basically. They've got Jamal Adams and and I think he's gotTa circled and capital letters and everything else out there because of everything that he can do the namic of a playmaker he is how he can attack from so many different levels of the defense There's just so it's so difficult to prepare for guy that does so many things not only in the defensive backfield but also gets after the quarterback and Impacts plays in the running game and everything else that he does. He's a very tough to prepare for and That's GonNa be a huge focus uh-huh rigorous. Let's Talk Raiders Defense. Because this week backs crosby was named the defensive player of the reads where season big spark for this defense. As many of the rookies right now they did. Add a line back here as well Preston Brown of the bengals no less so miles. Miles what do you make of him was might read it achievable is he. Somebody that the raiders have to start right away now. I don't know that he'll start right away but I think the even the most interesting interesting thing that we've gotten out of Preston Brown is the nickname that he jones had together. Yes Adam knows where. I'm going with this so adamant talking to Jones on Wednesday afternoon after practice and so he said that actually in Buffalo. His locker used to be next to Preston Brown's locker and so they had this nickname he ends Zeh. And I believe you can understand. Were that is going right. Yes so I I asked Preston brought about this after Thursday's practice. And he said Yeah. You Know Zeta Jones's Mike Guy. We used to do all kinds of bunny stuff together like like pay pranks or whatever and he said that they did some videos with the for the bills website under the moniker. PB Zeh and I have not as of this recording had a chance wants to go google them myself and look what these videos were but yeah I would expect. It's interesting you know when John Broun was talking about merits of signing signing a guy like Preston Brown in the middle of the season one of the things he talked about was he's one of the he's got these characteristics that you like in the middle linebacker because he's charismatic. You can tell he loves football and he has the kind of ability where you believe he can call signals is basically what I was thinking that Jon Gruden met because he can get after things and you understand where his his charisma pumps from people are going to listen to him and just talking to him in the locker room. I feel that a little bit because he is that kind of guy where you know you come up to him because we're doing our first sort of media scrum with them shakes your hand. You make sure he introduces himself to you as you introduce yourself to him him and he's really willing to talk about things and and you know. I think that he could be a really good piece. For this raiders. Defense moving forward now how much that's going to be for this week against the jets. I'm not sure. He said that he's willing to play special teams to play whatever he has to in order to help the team win. But I think when you're a guy like Preston Brown you've just gotten there. It might take a week or two in order to really get comfortable enough to be on the field as a defensive player. So I guess we'll see okay as S. We look to the jets. Team in the raiders. Coming into New York City of we are going to break down everything that we think is going to happen the game. 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A principal our news writer Vinson Buzzing your data from saying that right you pleasure meeting my hat man yet. But you read about the importance of the raiders getting their penalties Under control so I mean as a right now. They're up there as far as the collected for game and is coming being a bit emmys about it before. He said a halloween it up but I mean sometimes you. It's called feel like a lot of them are actually good calls or is it like these past ones that we see sometimes aren't getting overturned. Turn those returns. What do you make of this penalty? Situation isn't on the raiders. Or is it a little bit about a lot of undisciplined flint. Plays I you know. I think there's time like Max Crosby to stick is like I'll get the tripping call against them that sticks out in my mind Do those things have happened. The raiders listening. They've been traditionally Going back years to you. Know the seventies when they're a great team When one of the most penalized teams in the league that's been there kind of their Their identity It's not really those same teams anymore. I think you certainly seen a lot of undisciplined. Play out there. And that's really not what Jon Gruden wants If they WANNA get away from it but It's something that's happening. It's happening too. Many times for the raiders in Games. it's been it's been and coffee at times and it's certainly something if they want to be playoff team and they believe that they are they're going to have to get under control The last week of the season 'cause they're gonNA come down to one or two plays here there and especially in the fourth quarter and if you're giving teams yards that's not conducive to winning games in this time of the Jon Jon Gruden sitting them down and saying look guys you got. Peanuts is sometimes a guy reading easy. Wants to see that dog guys but you how to get them to clean that miles. See think it's on route into really As in on some of these guys talking to the coordinators on Thursday I mean. They're they do have an emphasis on on seeing what the penalties are trying to coach them out of it. I mean particularly for the offense of talking about holds in different things like that a Greg Olsen. The offensive coordinator was saying saying that. One of the guys Having Their Buildings Jerry Austin and I think we've heard of him a because he used to work with Jon Gruden on Monday night. Football telecasts as one of the guys who talks about the officials right and then the other things we've heard about him talking about challenges But apparently awesome prepares a report on the different officials and the the different officiating crews and the types of penalties they call frequency in all these different types of things that the raiders have to look out for in a game to game basis. So that means that the raiders are really conscious of the kinds of penalties that are being called against them in. They're trying to improve ooh In terms of making sure that they don't commit them. But I think Greg Olsen said I think he's right about this you can really prevent is the pre-snap penalties. You can't have all starts you can't have illegal formations and things like that because those things are not really necessarily within the confines of a play sometimes things happen happened within a plate. You know you get a hold. Because you don't want your quarterback to get killed are on defense you hold because you don't want somebody to just run down the field and score touchdown. Those was things tend to happen but you can always control the pre snap penalties and so those are the kinds of things that they know. They have to eliminate all right. So let's look at the XS knows for the supplement game here with the jets. The rookies again. We keep talking about them for readers. Start to lead the NFL here with rookie touchdowns down to fifteen. The ARNISTON is up there as well as far as how many they're getting other teams in the the forty niners raiders will also these physicians here and really pushing forward with this youth movement social feet so in this game as we look at the jets. Obviously the defense is off base and you need to keep doing what they're doing. The offensive line has been doing a great job. aww keeping up rights and the running game something that always established soon. Is You have to look at all of the different movie pieces that need to come together. Hers Raiders is to win. Which one would you say that the meaningful acquaint right now? Getting this team to victory over the jets offered to believe always about the often bovine always about establishing the run and the raiders of have tried to set the tone and gave I running the ball and they've been able to run it effectively for the most part it's been what's opened the passing game. It's open plaques car's been accurate not spectacular. He's I think really good job. Managing Games US COMPLETING PASSES ON THIRD DOWN even if they're short of the stacy's At least trying to complete them off is what it is. I don't think you're GONNA see anything. That much different. Not going to be seeing them you know. Take a bunch of deep shots and trying to take the top off the defense because they they just moved the sticker efficient on offense and that's kind of what they are Defensively I think that one of the things they really have to do is focus on getting that run defense back because for so long in the season it was one of the better run defenses in the league and it was Kinda surprising because the how Dhamma Line the defense was was last year. And all of a sudden. You had this defensive stepping up the last few weeks. Everybody's fallen in love with the fact that the defensive line is getting home you know ten sacks from the last two weeks when thirteen off season this is great. I have a pass rush leading to force turnovers Because you know pressure on the quarterback you leads to things like interceptions and humbles and it's been great and everybody's in celebrating that but To me the issue the last couple of weeks has been while the divine has found a way to get pressure on quarterbacks. They have really declined in their in their run. Defense so We saw with Cincinnati last week. Who hasn't been able to run the ball all season long? Joe Mixing came. It is one of the least efficient running backs in the league And he was able to finally get going. And you've seen the last couple of weeks at the run defense kind of being vulnerable and susceptible and I think there's a lot to do with the focus that they've put on getting to the quarterback I think they need to find that balance of yes. You want to keep up the pressure you guys off the edge getting to the quarterback especially on I'm a third down passing situations but you can't completely sacrificed the run defense and I feel like to a certain extent that has happened a little bit. They've got more balanced defensible. Yeah I met with. Readers have gone down. There's something today. It said that on third down that they actually a ranked using police his Caridi third in the NFL round. They're presented so well there again. It would. Easy gives the keyed in a game for the raiders slum while I think they have to be able to run the ball effectively and that's not necessarily the easiest thing to do against the New York jets defense. That is their strength. I in the League. They're only allowing seventy nine yards on the ground per game. So if you're somebody like Jess Jacobs last week you get over a hundred yards against the thirty second ranked rush defense in the League. Now you gotta go travel and you have to play a defense that is. I'm so certain going to be sole loaded up to stop this rookie back. I know Greg Williams a little bit the defensive coordinator of the jets from the time that he spent coordinating. The rams defense in that is just Soo's personality. He loves to be aggressive. He loves to come out and make sure that if you can run the ball that's going to be priority aid to stop you from doing so so I I think that's going to be an interesting aspect of things. The other thing is in Adam. I think mission this earlier. Jamal Adams is one of the best safeties in the league. You look at what he did two weeks ago when he just took the ball out of Daniel Jones hands in Iran at twenty five yards in for a touchdown. That's not something that you usually see out of safeties and I. Actually you get a chance to speak with Foster Monroe who played his college ball at Lsu. SOTED Jamal Adams and we told me is that you know when you have a guy who just makes so many plays is all the time you it. Not One in college really stands out. But there's nothing that he's doing right now in this league that is surprising foster monroe so that could be an interesting match up at some point in the game. Those former college teammates going at it from a safety and a tight end standpoint. But you always have to know where Jamal Adams. This is at all times. Because of the way he can blitz as a safety. And that's one thing that all the offense players have to man said that all week long that they need to know Jamal Adams's and they have to be able to figure out how to diagnose what he's doing so that he doesn't ruin their day defense. Jamal Adams differently thrive into that for his defense base of something that regulations have switched over when the jets when he came here because before that they were running three four. So it's been kind of interesting interesting to see how this team is performing under his system. You had to take a sore and say that it is the final or the raiders versus. What are you waiting for this? Well I mean I think I gave away two weeks ago when I said they were going to beat the bengals and lose to the jets I have. I haven't changed item. I think this is as bad a spot as it possibly get through. I think the raiders are a better team than the jets. Yes of course I do this is you know you have to look at spots in the NFL. And I think this is a terrible one. While the chiefs are sitting around and waiting for the raiders to get there. The raiders. Raiders will probably be thinking about the already That is the game on tap down the road. You've got to be Jeff I and time and time again we again you you see the NFL that are looking ahead. Get caught up and You know this is not an easy way saying all the right things are saying. Hey we know they're playing hard we know they've got talent but it's one thing to say and it's another thing to go out and keep your focus in the spotlight. This and I just think this is a really really tough for them. I think they go in and I think they lose OFFIC jets twenty one seventy mirus. This was going to be tough. I don't think this is going to be an easy game. I do think the raiders are going to win. I just feel like it's going to take like a Daniel Carlson last-second field goal to win. It's all pick the raiders thirty to twenty seven. But but I just feel like the raiders are probably going to have a tough time stopping levy on bell. If you look at. What's happened in the last couple of weeks? In how the run defenses performed and I mean the jets are GonNa be fired up. I think this is a game where you you're feeling a little bit. Pretty good about yourself since you one last two and it doesn't matter who it is is in this league if you win two games in a row. That's something to write home about a little bit. So they're probably going to be feeling good about themselves. Sam darnold playing better. And they're going to give the raiders. Some problems look. They have to go cross country. It's going to be a ten. Am Body clock game yet. been on the road in three weeks and I know that the raiders are very well traveled in the Houston going on the road and Derek Carr said this week that guys were even looking forward to getting back on the road because have little games that they like to play on the plane things like that that they like to do on road trips trips and it helps them bond and all that great but I think this is GonNa be a tough game and I don't necessarily think it's because the raiders might be looking ahead to the Kansas City chiefs. I just think it's a tough off matchup for these guys where you're going up against the top rushing defense in the league in if the jets can stop the run. That's going to set up a lot of second long third along situations and the raiders have been a third in third down percentage as you mentioned earlier. Heidi because they have been in third and manageable situations. They've been in third Erdan four thousand three third one a lot. You know for them when they give it to Alec Angled all the time. I'll know that they're going to be able to get those kinds of situations in this game so that might make it tougher but that being said. I do think that they're going to be able to win this time. It's going to be the offense on the field for the last snap. Giving it to Carlsson and you'll knock one through the uprights bright's that's my prediction thirty. Twenty seven raiders. Kay I'm actually. Unity with the raiders. As well we'll be my final score and wanted to ask miles ease. The raiders are playing for the game as they're going game swoop item dear card and want to say you know maybe it's tiddly ranks. Maybe Gin rummy we can make this up. It'll be really. Some speculative reckless reporting all of it. Miko Twenty Four. Twenty one on raiders. ABC come down to the final drive yet again. On the raiders. Up with another one here on rain Johnson city will be the by. This is GonNa be really interesting. Baxter and as always you'll get information two years before that seat Ramallah ought to date on everything. Happening with the raiders in that matchup coming up. AFC arrest battle on the road. The raiders had into Arrowhead to face the constant he keeps after this jets game. But you want to catch up with us on Sunday night. You're recap from the Games. And every Friday has regained preview. And all of wedding action. Gotcha as well in the segment that reduce our sports betting Utah follow on twitter. Catch up with that out of the R. J. Miles at miles as Simmons and I'm Heidi Fangs. 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Raiders last game in the Oakland Alameda Coliseum?

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

33:39 min | 1 year ago

Raiders last game in the Oakland Alameda Coliseum?

"Expect this to be a great atmosphere enjoy as always with review journals raiders beat writer Michael Belkin Raider fans it's time to look at our week ahead this could be were they played for forty seasons in the franchise's history but it does just become complicated with lawsuit and preview this week's game against the broncos Michael is our insider on the scene in Oakland so I ask you Michael how high is the percentage right now that the reader is play outside of Oakland in two thousand nineteen all agree question Heidi it I think likely scenarios both scenarios that the raiders haven't ruled out they've publicly certainly they've said all options are on the table and when asked specifically venue it'll be I do think that ideally you know there's no question that the raiders hoped it to be the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum I play in Oakland we'll get into that as well as talk about some pro bowl snubs and we've also got some news to get in and will recap last Sunday's loss to the bengals and very well the last game for the raiders in Oakland that's this week on Monday night football the Christmas Eve game it could again be the last time the race bring like going out to Levi Stadium and working out some sort of schedule where they play when the niners aren't there Levi stadium or something would you think either those would be being there would seem to have shrunk following the city of Oakland Federal and Try Anti Trust lawsuit a week ago I would still say humour of the odds that the raiders will be in the bay area next year and although I would be lying if I was to insinuate any sense that I know and given the political landscape I remain seeing where exactly they will play but I want to stay close I don't think they want sixteen how meal Berkeley or something using their stadium or Stanford or would they may be go do something like what the New York teams do in terms of timeshare the accumulated for five years in that stadium you know it's a special place to me and it always will be here we go it's time for another episode of Vegas Nation I'm your host Heidi Fangs Raiders exact thinking when it comes to this and how they are evaluating their contingency options to the open Alameda County Coliseum you know given the possibility that plan both of those specific options that you mentioned yet that's also in the in the umbrella of you know it's on the table and so what that really means in terms of the higher a area ideally so I think they're options probably start there they can pull that off I think that's what they'll do do you think they might go to college route like you'll end up to talking about you know so many have been talking about you know where will the raiders be next year and we didn't have an answer and I think part of the reason we didn't have answers because the raiders didn't have an answer either I don't I know our fans don't show with the fact that it could possibly be I think it's going to be a great atmosphere I think about all the great games all the hall of fame players all the memories got a lot of blood sweat and tears broke bones out there was some great games you know had some memories you know and it's weird to think that this could possibly be the last game I don't want that a high the raiders stay in the bay area next season in some form I don't know what that looks like in terms of which stadium which facility road games a year and so they you know they have to at least sacrifice one home games they international slave with other seven regular season games they would want to be in the super bowl comes in early February the raiders need to figure that out beneath the NFL needs to know there construct a schedule I need to know where Erkki of this is our option A. and B. and C. You know that we don't know I take a little solace knowing that you know for months a we've been they didn't know where they were GONNA be playing next year I'm not convinced today that the raiders for sure know where they're going to be in two thousand nineteen but I would think before the it seems like Oakland is really trying to make sure that they get their eighty million for renovations done to the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum so there's that lawsuit and then on top of that the teams the probowl nobody was selected I know this was a big deal for jared cook he had spoken to you Michael and we had him on the Vegas Nation podcasts as talking about the raiders last game and if it is they are playing the broncos again and we will get into that a bit later but I wanted to talk about the pros Lisa's up so I it's very difficult type atmosphere to lock in anything so there's still that doubt looming over this being because the raiders still don't have one well for now we're going to have to treat this Monday night football game as possibly again the readers last in Oakland as you said the political landscape this franchise is GonNa call home it matters in terms of scheduling and so we have an answer soon enough and we don't have one at all the season for him was about making that pro bowl he did make it as alternate obviously not what he was hoping for with the numbers that he's put up and being bowl we heard the teams and players that were announced just last week and for the raiders nobody made it in aping a bit difficult right now for the team to work with the city of Oakland that lawsuit that they're involved in right now the fourth titan overall when you look at the top tight ends in the NFL he is number four right now and no pro bowl Also you had may be reacting to the situation I mean these guys lose some money bonuses for not getting into the pro bowl being voted to the pro bowl original roster I spoke to him on the morning of the evening announcement and so several hours before word became public that Buddy Michael since the announcements came out about who made the pro bowl and would what are the feelings of particularly from Jared Cook if you know anything about how he eight hundred thousand dollars for Jerry Cook would have been two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and so the pro bowl we often joke about the price and there's only a couple of other teams that did not have any pro bowlers in the AFC it's just the raiders and the bills so have you been able to talk to any he wasn't going in and we I don't know if you're that point new whether or not he had been selected but he was bracing themselves for the disappointment Rodney Hudson Center Offensive Lineman for the raiders not make an he's an alternate and Lagarde Caccia Simile he didn't make it but again an alternate he said that after the fan voting and it's one third fan vote want their coaches players in terms of pro bowl and Jerry Cook you mentioned whose numbers he's got eight hundred and forty eight receiving yards on the season six touchdowns again that ranks fourth among NFL titans aims with toe injury with knee injury he's really hasn't been able to have the season he would want personally he was someone surprisingly and so when it comes to pro bowl snubs and being overlooked if your roster your team is three eleven you can expect to be that light and given that he had his best nfl season in your ten of his career there is a lot of build up to the possibility of being voted to the pro they would have gotten a significant money in their contract as is incentives in so for Ronnie Hudson that would have been cook being associated with the pro bowl pro bowl tight end jared cook that's something that was always a childhood dream of his you know he wanted to be seen they should either Ronnie Hudson or Jerry Cooke appeared the pro bowl they won't get this money but if they'd been voted into the original roster pointed in the number of players that are approachable from that squad and so for the first time since two thousand three the raiders do not have no he's disappointed about not being a pro bowler he's pretty bitter about the whole process which he has reason to I mean it's a popularity contest he can't really say that Costas and the voting and snugs game doesn't matter all two hundred fifty thousand dollars sure means a whole lot and as you mentioned from our conversation with Jerry in his first season with analysis one heck of a story comes down to his Iran Kelsey Yellow Kelsey desert zone right but still they play for better teams galaxy formation the pro roster formation you he was seventh in the fan voting and so US pretty pro football focus and it says that he has not surrendered a single sack since week one of Twenty fifteen that's over twenty five hundred snaps and you talk about Rodney Hudson and this man has really dominated when it comes to being a all pro center and I looked up some stats Travis Kelsey though didn't deserve to be a pro bowler jerky Ron of the Annapolis Kelsey was the other one who was chosen in favor of cook cooks numbers overall it's an interesting signing to me this late in the game what can you tell us about him coming into the fold with the raiders and the need for another quarterback here Somebody wrote about just the other day Michael that being Wednesday was Nathan Peterman from the bills now signing as a quarterback for the raiders this camp fathom how he's not there it's it's crazy to me but I guess if it's any consolation to them I am in the championships and my fantasy football zero touchdowns yes five interceptions against the Los Angeles chargers and it was just a situation there was I think it was it was too much across the board Iran of course has deleted touchdowns believes the NFL in that respect as montanes and so he's had a fantastic year could care to do some big things for me and other moves this week with the raiders they've signed a number of players also promoted some people from the practice squad coming months to learn John Gruden's offense and we'll see he could compete with AJ McCarron McCarron on the third day of the League year which is marched point angry pretty much all season so I have no doubt that we'll talk soon strong for yeah so I'll look out for Jerry AH selected to the pro alternate and so we kinda can go both ways sometimes where it's about name recognition and not necessarily the season that you're having one point one million dollars of his one point nine million salary for two thousand nineteen I'd be fully guaranteed so essentially four point one million dollars guaranteed a pro bowler and again that costs a couple of guys certainly financially one one quick ad is quite you assembly even though he's missed multiple for upcoming opponent which we know is the Denver broncos on Monday night football Christmas Eve and he won't be uniform for that game but it's more about the weekly enough and so read and he just figured from that that it wasn't going to end well so we'll have chance to talk to Jerry later this week but Graham but you know this isn't I would say it's a high profile signing but it's not a high profile opportunity right away there's not as much pressure on Peter Net and and and he's available I think you should pick them up and playing this week last home game he's going to be looking to finish strong Michael have six practices in two weeks he'll probably signed a reserve future contract which means that he'll be on the roster when the raiders reconvene in April for the start of their spring workout league and I really need a good tight end so I have a jared cook he's a free agent somebody dropped him I have no idea why he's owned in ninety four percent of the League's according to what I'm looking and he's somebody that they would definitely have to mold he really hasn't showed yet that he's got much pro as a under the a number of options in Free Agency Eagles The Washington redskins and told ally interested him. But you know the redskins with Jon gruden brother Jay helm one passing touchdown sue as a sex successful has shown excuse me and seven interceptions whose name on this season so there would be goes into Maclaren's pocket if he is on the raiders roster on March seventeenth and so even though we talked about you know it is a practice squad and Nathan Peterman just you know when I saw him with the bills look like he was frantic under center so I don't know if Gruden can take this minhas or was when he stepped into the full with the buffalo bills two thousand seventeen th round pick it was thrust into action and is very first start he throws sircar remains without an interception right now again nine straight games without having thrown an interception he surpasses rich Gannon who did that and two thousand one in seven games in two thousand one so Derek Carr right now a big bright spot for the raiders and they did have a few in their loss other bright spots again that is dependent upon him and pressing in these couple of weeks practice and being signed to reserve future contract and then if the raiders don't restructure in shape him but it'd be quite a project here at for the raiders to uptake Nathan Peterman at least you're getting civility he was looking at McCarron is still on the raiders roster they have to give them a three million dollar roster bonus if he's on the roster a couple of days later he also would receive anybody really they he's more here to be other arm on the practice field help the offense opposing parties opposing defense prepared ability to give himself a chance but you're right there there's some serious questions based on how beans looking buffalo about whether or not he can be an NFL caliber quarterback he has lots of McCarron's deal we'll have a hard decision to make in terms of someone they traded a fifth round pick for a moving moving forward from him sixteenths in terms of the third day actually part of me is the fifteenth leakier is the thirteenth March us on the fifteenth if lot there to really work with and mold into shape and to grow would be one way to put it if he's GonNa Compete for that role for instance you look at the tight ends Darren Waller Lee Smith both coming through huge for the team Daniel Carlson converting on three field goals Jordy Nelson very long time here in Oakland so for the raiders and so that was part of the attraction for Nathan Lisa will be in the same offense and have some measure of are there are rumors about his future in Washington and the likelihood that you know he's there much longer and so you know you know Jon Gruden will be in place for and even had six receptions for eighty eight yards despite there being this makeshift Oh Lion Derek Carr being sacked five times in that game I think there were some the best we've ever had with this possibly being the last game in the college cms weird to me this is home you know this I was drafted here played on this dirt you know I am probably wasn't conducive to his personal success and so he'll he'll step into an NFL roster again but not be step into the limelight as much in the chance over the course of the so he's a practice squad quarterback so that's probably first thing that we should emphasize isn't it somebody who's expected to pick up the playbook he's not expected to compete with oh I didn't know what this opportunity is for Nathan Peterman there is a chance that he could outlast. Aj McCarron here with the raiders. Things that you can see with the raiders team that we're finally coming together however again another loss in Cincinnati some big opportunities couldn't capitalize on Michael What did you take away from this week in Cincinnati were the raiders fell to the bengals well breath nineteen game they played in Denver Raiders lost on a last minute field goal by the Denver Broncos with the broncos right now are officially eliminated from the playoffs we have again the broncos on Monday night football with the team and the last time that they played it was twenty two bengals certainly show themselves to be missing some of their key pieces I think it's important to highlight who the bengals were missing because I'm about to talk about who the raiders in order to exit said protocol and so for now I don't know whether or not the raiders will have their top cornerback I'll have to kind of settle out with the rest of the season but as of right now if they were to draft and the season ended today they would have the number two pick so that is something so it was pretty dire situation and I think the raiders did their best to manage it but they when coupled with the the bengals they really struggled to protect their car you mentioned the five sacks were you had denzel good at right guard starting in place of Game Jackson who is there any update right now on some of the guys that suffered through injuries I know Gary Uncon- only one of them do you have any update right now on whether or not he will make This game will he be same with a toe injury and these guys who hadn't played offensive snaps all season for the raiders. Chaz green was making a season debut identical good had appeared a bit on offense the combination of the raiders inadequacies with special teams issues. I was enough to do the men and for the raiders. I guess you could look at it if you're being optimist stop wide receiver exit in the second quarter with an MC L. Injury and so speaks to the state of the raiders offense they couldn't outscore available Sunday so between Gary Connolly playing are dealing with a concussion and cornerback Daryl Wurley has been fighting through torn labor in terms of Jeff Driscoll and his radic accuracy I mean he struggled putting the ball on point through throughout the game and and really struggled after tyler boy protection issues from left tackle Colt Miller which was something of a surprise struggling with his technique in protection you know he's a young player is going to have a chance to really offs and

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Raiders Mock Draft 2.0 Through the Third Round

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

30:19 min | 4 months ago

Raiders Mock Draft 2.0 Through the Third Round

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Download the VEGAS NATION APP HAD TO VEGAS NATION DOT COM to keep up with all the content that we put up daily. And this is also where you will find your shows up until the NFL draft. Next week on Thursday we will be hosting a show that will be live as well. We have three of those shows throughout the draft. One each night on Cox your view channel fourteen so make sure to tune in for those if you are around and have that access to that cable channel. So we have today is we're gonNA bring you a little bit of a mock draft. We're GONNA have a little fun with it. We're GONNA MAKE ED and atom part of the readers for an office here. We're GONNA have Adam Gruden and Ed mayock bringing out your picks for the raiders. All the way through the third round Vinnie is going to break down the analysis. So we'RE GONNA CALL HIM. Vinnie Kuyper. I'm Heidi Goodell. I'm going to keep these guys on the clock. An announce all the picks. We're GONNA see what they have here for today. You guys can even Bumi at some point if you want just for fun you know. I think that's what happens. Normally so Yeah we will get into this right now and I'm GONNA put out a minute on the clock for two minutes with each pick and so we're GONNA just Kinda I assume would the other teams big. But we're going to say like you know. Let's say that your best options available that you want on your team and we're just GONNA start rolling from there aright so here we go fans this time for the raiders. Draft okay the raiders. Have the number twelve pick and you're on the clock or so I'm ready. It's Mike I'm ready this. That doesn't sound like a very good impression. I didn't I didn't know no I'm not. I'M NOT GONNA impressed but I'm gonNA tell you I didn't even think about the wide receivers until I was asked about from any of the Las Vegas Review Journal and I had to remind I'd agree. It's funny we stink wide receiver. You know I want Jerry Judy. I want to get out of Alabama is not only an x and Y he's being a C- and in John's offense. There's nothing but sit. Johns like those route runners. He's a route runner. We love route. Runners will sit right into whatever. John Wants to do with the adaptable with the offense Z. Y. X. With the Yellow Banana. And I really think at this point Jerry Judy from Alabama's only is the only guy with go with well. You're not GonNa have to convince me to add a weapon to our offense That's that's what I want to do and I think we have talked enough off line during the draft and for this zoom meeting No Mike Mike Grady May I. I'm not sure yes. You're not gonNA have to do a whole lot of convincing. I think this is easy to me. Jerry Judy is the best of the wide receivers. His route running is on a different level. I know that there's some other other receivers have other very strong qualities but Jerry. Judy I think has only been. He's only had like eight percent of his catches contested through his time at college. Some might say a detriment. I would say this because he gets open every freaking a play. Let's just take Jerry. Yeah I think it's an easy choice. Someone told Goodell. He's got the pause button on in the basement to take the pause Nassir. We can actually see a town with our pick. Is I agree with Johnny. I know it could get a picket forty two. I'm very excited about the picks between one ninety three forty two. You're an idiot if you don't know what you're doing on the first down you have no evaluation sense. We will take Jerry. Jones and the raiders. Make their pick exactly two minutes there when the pick is Jerry Judy Wide Receiver Alabama now over to our Vinnie hyper with his analysis of what the raiders did with Jerry. Judy he's my number. One waters here on the board. But and I gotta say about getting reports that both the New York giants and the Detroit. Lions approached the raiders a possibility of trading up the raiders thought about it but opted against doing it. I don't know if was the right move. We could talk about a little bit later but as far as the pick Jerry. Judy is the Homerun wide receiver. The raiders have been lacking. He's GONNA FIT Perfectly John. Gruden's offense and he's going to be a tremendous compliment to Darren waller emerging tight end hunter Renfro the weapon. They uncovered seth round last year in the slot. Josh Jacobs Terrell Williams. If he's healthy adds a whole other dimension so the Jerry. Judy is the obvious thing and he puts offense to a holler level. That was some great insight there. We think the raiders will be happy with this pick. And let's move on to the number. Nineteen pig for your Las Vegas raiders as of right now. The raiders are on the clock so I just got a couple of texts of Ed Mayock. And there's some teams that are trying to get a hold of us. They don't know how to they don't know if they can zou main or we're GONNA use some other video conferencing apps or which make phone calls or what but they want. They're interested in trading up to the spot and I think that it'd be worth it to listen to offers and trying to get out of this. We can add a cornerback. Later on that might be Not a reach like it would be at this point and even add some other draft picks so I think we should listen to some offers here. No one is a smart as us and no one really believes we like Derek Carr this much anyway odds reasonably signed. Marcus Mariota and we love Nathan Peterman into Sean Kaiser nobody up in Napa sipping wine battling for that three spot. I think Iran here Johnny fits into your system yellow banana just like the wide receiver. I would take Jordan. Love Herein is the general manager. I feel I have an ability of rule you no matter how much you're making a year. I'm a get jokes. Funny Contri-. They effort on your here. That's not the reason and I would say that you should probably in these two minutes that we have turn on the game film from last year. Maybe check that out. I don't think we can ignore it. S and by the way I think even if we trade down we can still get John. I think you might be right. I'm more focused on the gear. The hats t-shirts of win. They're available so we believe that you're right. I'm GonNa go with you. You make more money. Everyone knows you're in charge anyway. Let's trade to pick who are going to trade with them. Where do we go Well I actually. I'm hearing from the Patriots that they want to. They want to move up to the spot and they actually do need a quarterback so let's trade down with the Patriots. It's not really. It's not really their thing and listen. Maybe we're kind of hosing on this deal a little bit get get some revenge for you know that one playoff game a few years ago on Johnny. You Know Bella Checks. Got Someone on your roof looking at you right now. I think they're making a big mistake year. But you're the guy so let's do it. We're going to take it up a second round. Pick and moving down to twenty three here okay. So the raiders have made a trade with the New England patriots. Pick up a second round pick and also the twenty third pick in the NFL Vinnie. Khyber what do you think of this? GotTa find out who they drafted at twenty third but I can see obviously Why they would do something like this There's probably about five or six players that they're comfortable with that nineteen and chances are one of the that group of five is GonNa be there at twenty three. Why not go ahead and pick up a second round pick? They don't have a second round pick right now. Now they do I at that. The third round picks at they have They're set up for a pretty big day on that second day. So I'm all in favor of the raiders trading dumber so we will head to the twenty third pick in the NFL draft where the raiders will be selecting after having made a trade with the New England Patriots Raiders. You're on the clock John. You're screwed because love is gone. Good and I'm not. I'm not happy good but you know you know. We need someone to cover in the outside. We wanted Eli Apple. We're too afraid of. The issues was caused a lot room so we offered him a local offering and couldn't come to an agreement Love is gone. John you know who I like. I like champ. I like winners. I'm John You like winners as well. We don't like losers. So let's take the quarterback Christian Fulton from Lsu. The Kid lifted the national championship trophy. And I think he spent he fits well opposite our boy. Trayvon mulling. This is a problem. that's who. I liked but I'm not going to agree with you here Okay why not since we both like the same guy? Let's make it happen. This is going to be easy. A wakeup goodell. Put Your Pajamas back on. And this would be an easy quick We're we're calling it in Texas an end. We're faced dominant Christian Fulton. The cornerback mellish. You take the raiders state demise zoom. I didn't hear the pig actually. Oh it's coming in now after. Itt got on it here. The raiders have selected. Lsu cornerback Christian bolted vinnie. What do you have for us here on the analysis Christian He's a winner. Obviously played in a ton of big games played. A Great Conference won the National Championship. The getting the love that he deserves a right now but from what I'm hearing He's made a late surge. Updraft boards and this is a tremendous fit for the raiders. They need a quarterback opposite Trayvon Mullen. Now they've got a good young quarterback tandem. They also have some depth at that positions of Young Dept. So this is the direction that I was thinking that they were GonNa go in quarterback one of the ones that were available and this is again at that point the drought. Thank you for that analysis. That was the raiders clock from the twenty third pick but now we head into the second round where they have also picked up another pick from the New England. Patriots raiders. Here are going to have another selection coming up in the third round but I who are you taking here in the second raiders on the clock. John this is the time. This is the place this is the year. I like Jalen hurts from Oklahoma. This kid is ready for you and I said and we thought Mariota was Brady Montana and Marino in one. This is another good like that. Everyone thinks as a running back a running quarterback icee no johnny Three eighty three eight four nine passing yards kid also ran for twelve ninety eight. We need someone to get in their car one more year. Don't tell anybody we don't like that to make the public We can get Mariota in there and Jalen hurts our future. What do you think well right position wrong player for me? So we're going to have to work this out. I really liked jake from. He is rising up rising up the boards for a reason people are realizing some of the really really good working not only put on tape but also did in the off season. This is a leader. This is a guy who's GonNa come and be a prototypical quarterback make all the throws that we want. I don't know I just don't want I don't like the size on Jalen hurts. John is a horrible kick. You obviously didn't watch Netflix too. Busy Tiger Canyon. You didn't watch. Qb One if you add watch qb one you know Jake. From sat in tree stands with hunter. Renfro shooting animals. That's the best kind of aim this guy has. I don't like his accuracy and that was also a show where Tate Martell was the number one guy in it so you know where Jake from is in my mind. I still say we go with Jalen hurts. So you're saying it's a bad thing to already have report with receivers. I don't know about these three. Could netted deer if there was two feet in front of him. Maybe he was just compassionate. You know what we don't want it soft guy at quarterback you know what we're GONNA we're GonNa finally let you have some power here we're GonNa let you make a pick. Go at jalen hurts. We'll take jalen hurts with the pick in the second round. The raiders have selected. Jalen hurts quarterback Oklahoma. So what do we make of this? Pick Vinnie. I think this is way too. High for Jalen Hurts Navy in the third round I. I'd still be hesitant to do that. So I think this is a major. Reach by the raiders. there's other positions on the field. They could have gone safety. They have solidified their linebackers or some good linebackers are in this in this area There's still some more defensive help if they need. I wouldn't rule out double on a wide receiver. There's so many good ones you really really really help yourself at wide receiver in this draft get nat second second round pick. So I just not feeling jalen hurts in that second round you make trade To to try to help a need and pick up an extra thick. I don't see why you pick up vic the guy that you could also pick in the third round. Would you rather have gone with credence? Pick of Jake from not necessarily no not in the second round. No on that note right here. We'll go ahead take a quick break here. Word from our sponsor and we'll come back and continue with the raiders picks here in the NFL draft with the third round on our mock drafts. Stay tuned right here on biggest nation. They say a healthy gut means a healthy. You favor apple cider vinegar shots bottle. This feeling into the convenience of a two ounce shot better digestion stronger immune system and the lowering of blood. Sugar levels are all just some of the benefits shooting daily favor shot. Their proprietary blends are a raw and organic and mixed with other functional ingredients to create a better tasting experience. First Time shooters can go to drink a favor dot com welcome back here to Vegas Nation. It's Heidi Goodell. It's Vinnie. It's Adam Curtis and then Maye and we're doing here you're to a point overs in of the Vegas Nation. Mock draft taking care of all the raiders picks here as we go along in the show right. Now we're up to the third round. Where the Raiders? Actually still have three picks they have it pick eighty pig eighty one and pick ninety one. So let's head over here to the Raiders War Room which is on zoom conference or skype or something of that nature in their virtual war room. We're going to head over to add an atom and find out what they're doing here with pick number eighty in round three raiders. You are on the clock Johnny. We've now got up pick eighty and did you just hear what Mel Kiper Junior said about our last big? I LIKE BILL. Tobin's line of many years ago who they L. is Mel Kiper Junior. You wanted us a picky Schuler. Trent dilfer I there. Nothing about what he says but anyway. I I think we need a safety at this point. Johnny we need someone to get in there and Really mix it up A guy who can play in the box the slot at a moment's notice switch up and come up. I like Tyrrell Burgess Safety in Utah and to heck with Jacob season and Judge Jason Justin. Herbert Anthony Gordon. None of those guys made despite twitching. The PAC twelve is a nickel quarter a special teamer. I like them Johnny. Will you know as long as we're all defensive players? Go ahead and take it. I couldn't care less what we defensively. I'm only here to work with the offense and worry about what my quarterbacks by receiver bill so if you WANNA take a plane go right ahead. Well I like your thinking John Kids are GONNA fit in well a Mike. I said he can play all kinds of positions And he's from salt. Lake City is very Clean Kit We're not gonNA have to worry about any nonsense from him. So let's take the claim. Kid FROM UTAH. Burgess is our pet all right there you have it. The raiders selection is in Khyber. What do you make of what the raiders have done here at number eighty? Roy Like Burgess. I like the PIC. Position of need the raiders. You definitely need to continue to build depth At at safety at addressed it with the Marias Randall. Reggiani from the Cleveland Browns. They also brought a Jeff Heat. Who has a lot of starting experience from the Dallas Cowboys running back? Jonathan Abraham Next year after kind of lost rookie season Eric. Harris is still on the roster. He's still a dependable player But the way the safety position is going. Nowadays you need playmakers. There's a lot at three safety sets of these days so as much versatility as you can create a at that position a better and you're going to need some guys down the road so I think for this area in the draft you know might be a role player that first year but he's a projected starter somewhere down the line so it's a good solid back. So the raiders have selected their first defensive player in this draft. That being Tyrrell Burgess a safety out of Utah and now we will head to the number. Eighty one pick where the raiders will select again and the raiders are on the clock so I know that I said I don't care about defense but I feel like the defense now that I'm thinking about it really help us get the ball back if we can force turnovers and I look at a Guy from Michigan. That's one of the teams. I did watch this year. Joshu is a defensive end who can also play some linebacker. He played a little bit all over the field. He's versatile little on the smaller side but I think we can put some size on them. I know a guy that can really help with his strength training if we bring them in and so I think we can get a little bigger. I think he'd be a playmaker before. Some fumbles made a bunch of Saxe. Josh Gucci from Michigan is a guy that We can get a little stronger and he can really be an impact player here in the NFL. So that's my decision John. I know you love Michigan. Except for Harbaugh's political stances. I'm GonNa go against you here and choose. I'm going to get your wide receiver Johnny. You're an offensive guy. Let's look at a kid named Vance. Jefferson from Florida doesn't catch the ball much. But he's a nice kid he He's an I. I would take him John. Because of the Lineage Vans Dad is a former thirteen year. Nfl receiver. I'm sure you coach him as well. You've been around forever. And he's the current jets wide receiver. Coach Shawn Jefferson. This kid knows football. He's twenty three which makes them very old But I think you need another receiver Agwu Lars horrible. Why did you ever sign any can only play in the slot and worried about Renfro as well kid dropped a lot of balls? They need some They need some depth. Let's go Jefferson here to do any favors. The Guy's Dad. That's not why we're here to do this. Jack Receiver. We need some help. I need to get to the quarterback again rather than my guests is. Johnny you're GonNa go you have twenty. That's the first time we've been on the clock John. This this technology is throwing us off. I'm not GonNa win that thank you just for Muskie and I had actually. Because I'm the commissioner here up GonNa say something here that I have made mistakenly said. The raiders have taken their first defensive. Pick that's actually their second with Burgess. Because they had like a Christian Fulton earlier in the draft. That's okay good okay. Good L. You only announced the first round. Anyway I don't even act okay so we will now head over to vide- Kuyper for his analysis on this pick. I like the pick. And here's why I think football's become more and more of a situational game He brings heat off the edge He's versatile areas different positions scheme. It up put them in different packages to get him onto the field and try to create some pressure On the quarterback. I really like what the raiders are doing with their defense combined with. They didn't free agency with with what they're what they're doing in the draft this far. I really think that they're moving in the right direction. Defensively and it's okay to have a guy that might not be a three down starter but you plug him. In on known passage rations and just various sub packages be able to get production. I think he's that type of player. Okay now the raiders. Final pick of the third round is the ninety first pick here in the NFL draft raiders. You're on the clock hold on John. I'm looking at my whiteboard who I like. I know Nick. He's pegged in the middle linebackers. The Green Dot. I'll tell you what Troy Diab- Oregon is GonNa be the Purple Dot. We're GONNA get the purple dot up and down the field. He's got the size at six thirty to thirty one of the best coverage linebackers. And let's be honest. He played for Oregon and even though he played defense he had to be under the spell and the absolute Intelligence and knowledge of the new coach. Marcus Arroyo so if we can Pan Royal with a purple dot of Troy Morgan. I think we jumped on this game. I mean near you and your defensive guys over here Mike Knowingly. Well why what are we what are we doing? I wanted don. I wanted to find a way to bring some youth to our office of line. I love our offensive line but these guys are as old as me so I don't know I wouldn't. I would add some youth in the interior of the often divide. I think there's some good prospects available but you know what I'm feeling tired of all this zooming whatever nonsense. We're doing right now so I'm just GonNa let you go. Well what you're missing. John here is die. Grew up in northern California. That's only three hours south of Las Vegas. I don't know if you remember this but we're actually moving there. He could bring a lot of fans and with this crumbs filling stadiums our need people to buy the PSL's so let's go at 'em we're going to go with the kid Morgan Mister die. That's our kicked again. Aaron muted and just figured out he used the mute button Vinnie caper. What do you think of this analysis and this light backer pick out of work and a troy die? I like Troy. Todd tried I think he might be there for the raiders in the Fourth Round But Hey if you're if you're convinced that Dan he's get on the field and then that easier guy Than I that I'm not going to sweat it much myself at like Molly Arison. I still think it will be available. Been Linebacker for Ohio State. Who gives you the ability? First of all I think he's GonNa Start a day one but he gives you the ability to to move quick. Hausky more of it. You know one of the outside into four three defense Cory Littleton stays right where he is really help yourself. with a guy like me but I'M GONNA I'm I'm okay with with the Argon linebacker. Because you know it's right around the area that he probably will go. I still think might be a fourth round talent but But no argument about a bit behind on all the players that have been taken. Mike I gotTa Tell Ya you suggested not take care said and he's still on the board your fire. So let's let's let's let's figure that went up available. Who's not we got. We got zooming. We got wet exiting. We got you know what's happening in before you leave. Mel. We're going to get you a hat and shirt because we have now discovered with the deer will be open and that'll be at the April twenty eighth where we can get the gear out to the people in Las Vegas over right so there you have it. Those are picks air for the third round. The raiders are as of right now. Do have five pigs but as you there we did a little trade action. Got them some more pigs. I think this is a fun show to do today. To bring out for the fans and our two point. Oh draft and Just a couple things that I think will be interesting that Adam you mentioned there is. How are all these front office? People are going to be able to keep up with what's happening there and a half to get right down pads and papers and then the screen shot and send them over to these guys. Keep up with everything in a timely manner. Perhaps I don't know of any you had mentioned earlier on that the NFL is going to do actual mock draft a Monday. Sounds like it's going to be fun as well. They're going to bring in some old names. What do you know about that? Yeah they're going to. They're going to do a walk through A WALK-THROUGH MOCK draft on Monday. That should be pretty interesting. I think that they should televise. It but I doubt they're going to do that. but you know we're we're in unprecedented time so Unprecedented Times need unusual or creates unusual situations in. This certainly is obviously they're not gonNA use real dams You know otherwise people are going to be you know either gas or either kind of tipping their hand or you know blown smoke I it would be great create. It'd be awesome. They did actually use real names to try to get a read on on everybody. But they're not GONNA do that. But you know from a from a tech technology technical aspect. It's probably really important that they that they do to this. To try to figure out you know where are the glitches? What are the trouble spots? What can we anticipate happening on Thursday would would? It really starts but the have some fun with it But you know they're just trying to make sure that it goes off with as few as Monica legit as possible on Thursday. Something else I found that it's going to be kind of interesting to see how it plays out is. The raiders are holding virtual auditions. Those applicants can get in there. That deadline is up to April. Thirtieth on Raiders. Dot Com. That'll be kind of. I think interesting because the these girls are going to have to find ways to be able to compete with the competition. Not Knowing what the other girls look like. Sometimes you can kind of get an idea like when you're out there. Doing the cheers and things like that girl. She's really good. You know maybe it ups your level competition. But you can't really do it when you can't see each other. I suppose I don't know how this is going to work out either but it should be. I think a a new thing for everybody as we get through this process and try to figure out how everything works out on virtual levels so That'll do it for our biggest nation show today will be back with another one coming up here on Monday. And we're going to keep you up to date with all things happening again with the team on. Yes yes S. real real quick Roger We've made a final trade grainy stinks. I've traded him straight for Miles Simmons in a six at grady ship in the Carolina. They're clean out there. The white of Greenies. Very very much. Bruce on the barbecue the barbecues topnotch out there. I'm all down for a visit. The grains and Carolina. So there you go miles of. You're listening you are missed man but have out there in Carolina and we will be back again on Monday. You could subscribe wherever you're listening. Get your comments. We love hearing from you guys We had one just yesterday from somebody here named Nicholas Marr. And he says it was another Great Vegas Nation podcast and he says I don't remember who said it. But he agrees. The raiders won't take a quarterback in the first row but maybe later in the draft. He says he's no expert but his to mocks. Have taken either from at one. Twenty-one Anthony Gordon at one fifty nine so I drop some feedback to twitter on that one and I we also Kinda went over that on the show as well so hopefully that helps you out there. Nicholas and thank you for listening but everyone else checkout Vegas nation dot com download. The VEGAS NATION APP were brought to you by. Sdn Sports Mobile from station casinos and also presented to you by favor. Drink a favor dot com for all the guys Adam Hill. Ed Greeny and Benny Bonsignore. Thank you for listening. We'll be back next week.

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Game Recap: Raiders 28-10 loss to the Chiefs

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Game Recap: Raiders 28-10 loss to the Chiefs

"Vegas nation presented by sports mobile from station casinos. We'll try and like I said to bring the right kind of people in here. We think they can build championship. Football team has the most loyal fans in the world. I know it hurts that we might not the Oakland raiders forever but we are still later next. I think it's going to be a Don't get an army coming into things what's up raider fans it's week to the NFL season and the raiders face the AFC west defending champion chiefs and came away with the loss today at ringcentral Coliseum in Oakland Twenty eight to ten. It's Heidi thing here and we are going to break down everything that went down in this game with Mile Simmons and Adam. Hill are raiders writers. Here's who are out in Oakland but I don't forget to check out VEGAS NATION DOT com your source for all things raiders get the Vegas Nation Apt to follow the show and comment while there we love hearing from you so guys after the Raiders Tacoma W last week they follow up with a pretty abysmal effort against the chiefs they scored ten points in the first first quarter but after that twenty eight unanswered points from the chiefs miles what went wrong in this one patrick mahomes got loose boost the second quarter. I think that is basically what it comes down to unfortunately couldn't do anything in the second half and I I it neither really can Patrick Mahomes. I mean did at the time that they got down. Close to the end zone. They had a fumble and then they ended up giving ball back to the raiders but they couldn't get anything done. ofensive -ly after that first quarter and you know when Patrick Mahomes went full Patrick mahomes there was really nothing that the raiders defense even could do and so I guess when you score twenty eight unanswered points that's what happens and the chiefs defense. They came in pretty strong here. They had three sacks on Derek Carr Dr twice back to back and that was after Trent Brown left the game the raiders right tackle. Brandon Parker came in for him and right when he did. It seemed seemed as though that's when the chiefs were able to penetrate that Line Adam. What can you tell us about the injuries that occurred in this game the were several of them but I think the most notable right now might happy Trent Brown and what is the update there yeah we heard after the game that it was a knee and it's going to be checked out and evaluated. Usually we learn a lot more about these things you on Monday as we'll find out tomorrow the extent of that but it was the fact that there was several injuries that happen throughout the game most of them were able to come back in in a tyrod. Williams had a HIB issue. He went up got shot for that and came back. Josh Jacobs. We believe was cramping. That's that's what he said. After the game so he was kind of in and out a little bit actually left the game came back in for one play and then left the game again for a while so he had some impressive numbers ninety nine yards most coming on that one one fifty one yard carry but certainly wasn't out there for the entire game because the injuries we know dwayne. Harris had a real problem with his with his ankle. He got a tape trying to come back game. He laughed for the rest of the way because you know it was pretty bad he really couldn't get off the field after he came back out for one on a punt coverage shift so a lot of different guys but as you as you said turn. Brown is the one that they're really going to be focused on. How will he be going forward because the defensive line had a great week wine they were today but you start you know you already had the two guards. If there is an issue with Trent Brown now you're very highly paid right tackle who was expected to be a key part of that offensive line that would be a big loss if there's anything wrong with him that accuse him off the field for the next game or or even if his longer we don't know the extent of it well Adam. Let's stick with these injuries for just a second because tyrone Williams Jon Gruden noted in his post game press conference that he had a cortisone shot. If I heard things right for his hip also like you mentioned to Wayne Harris the ankle all seemed Josh Jacobs just a little banged up would this mean to the offense though should they lose tyrone Williams. I mean Dwayne hers. I think is as is listed in the depth chart like the fourth wide receiver in so what would it mean if the raiders were to lose tyrone Williams due to a hip injury for let's say next week against the Vikings. I love you really bad news bears. I mean especially because they don't have that much depth at the wide receiver position maybe Keelan dos but actually get a target on Tom because the that would be somebody that could take place there and you know if something is really wrong with dwayne Harris than that means. You really have to figure out what are you. GonNa do you at the kick returner in power Turner Spots Jalen Rashard in there today but yeah I mean you're losing. If you've tyrel Williams has to be out. You're losing losing your top wide. Receiving Granny had another touchdown today now as two on the season and yes he did have that miscommunication with Derek Carr where he apparently missed a hand signal but I think just in general. You don't want to lose your top wide receiver win really already lost one when you had to release them now. He's catching coaching touchdown passes for the Patriots so let's talk about the flip side of this ball because as we mentioned mahomes four touchdowns four hundred forty three yards four of his touchdowns close to forty yard passes Adam that same don't one of those rows let like Lamarcus joyner just kind of stopped on the on the route. They seem to be a lot of miscommunication. How are the raiders get back to this secondary being more of a threat especially when it comes to facing somebody who they due twice a year like the chiefs. What do they do when they go back and look at the tape this week to try to improve in the secondary. Will you've got to fix the communication first and foremost that's the that's the biggest thing I think there are certain plays that they didn't make I think there was times when the chiefs just had much better offense than the raiders have defense and you're not gonna able to do anything about that but if you can't communicate and you're not calling out the rate switches and who's got who I know the one there was one play with Lamarcus Lamarcus joyner that we're referencing where you know he had a running back in motion out to the flat and he went with him and he called it out and then nobody picked up the salaries Devers ranch straight down the field for an easy touchdown like that can happen against anyone but it certainly can happen against the chiefs. They're going to make you pay for that every time so those things things need to get ironed out then they just need to continue to improve. I mean they had no Jonathan Abrams today. He's done for the season. He's not going to be back. I think that was a big loss for the defense certainly league. They felt that but he's not going to be there so you've got to you know make plays. You're going to get better working together but the communication issues just can't happen during during the regular Miller season. That's what training camp and preseason his war. You've got to get those things ironed out so they've got fixed at but they've also got play better. I mean they were they weren't great last year they thought they were starting to solidify things with you know calmly continued to approve and bringing in Jonathan Abram and everything that he could do but you know you're not. GonNa have him so you've you gotta go to move forward and try to get better. How much do you think that the raiders might have been a little sad. Though that Derek cars passing Ken Stabler on the all time leader list in passing it was overshadowed in this loss but when you look at his overall performance here one hundred ninety eight yards. There's one touchdown to interceptions right now. Car stands on the raiders. All Time leader lists in passing yards at nineteen thousand one hundred ninety six. That's quite a milestone but when you look at it as overall performance. What do you make of this? When and was it just like we were talking about. Miscommunication Tyrone Williams was doubled up was that they he just wasn't finding waller and open space. What was the reason you think for these numbers that car produced today. I think the biggest thing look it is nice. I certainly that he became the the all time leader in franchise passing yards but I mean he averaged five yards per attempt today you look at the league the average it's around six and a half in the really good quarterbacks get to about eight so I mean you can. We'll get patrick. Mahomes way was averaging in this game and you're going to get you're gonNA get ten yards. Per Attempt right into bat is some of the biggest difference. What does it mean. Does he not finding his receivers probably Bley. Are some of his receivers not really getting open. Yes is there mis mis communications on certain routes. Yes we saw that too so I think it's a combination of a lot of things car. Har Said after the game that you know when you're facing this chiefs defense they bring a lot of different exotic blitzes some things that you might not necessarily expect you also gotTa. I remember this chiefs. Defense is new more than it would be. Yes you've got a lot of the same personnel but at the same time they do have different pieces Frank Clark Tyron Matthew and the coordinator. Steve Spagnolo is different so he's got that reputation for bringing exotic in different things they were able to do that car of course they sat car argue times and just really nothing worked that well after the first world where they were getting a consistent rhythm and when things were organ will Derek Carr turn the ball a lot of people looked at this match up in the UK mahomes without Tyreek Hill. He might have a little pinkel injury. That's lingering. There may be this all would slow down and then we saw the first quarter. I'm sure that was resonating with. Everybody is a raider fan like wow this. There's GonNa be a good game. They're really gonNA play close and we had mentioned in our earlier podcast this week. How the raiders played that. She's very close to the last time they were at home. A forty two thirty three score was the final for the chiefs but still they played them close. There was a Lotta offense. This game obviously very much different. this is also the last time we're going to see the raiders on that dirt baseball field. How much do you think that when they're playing on that kind of feel that it's problematic just for the fact fact that they are playing on top of hard compacted dirt as opposed to green grass or even just an all purpose type weather field. How much do you think that that had any effect with. What happened in today's game? especially with injuries are concerned at him. I mean they've been doing it for a long time. I don't know how much impact attack that really has. I'm glad to see it go and this will probably be the last time it ever happen because there's no other. There's no other dual use stadiums in the NFL They have multiple sports anymore. Those of long been long since been phased out except for here in Oakland so since that'll be gone the world series we over by November third when the raiders come home and we won't see it anymore. I think there'll be some nostalgia feeling I think from some people who watched games for a long time here and enjoy that part of it but I I don't I think any of the players are gonNA miss having dirt out there on the field. I don't know how much it contributes to injuries and stuff. I I saw Derek Carr slide on the dirt which I see baseball players do but that's gotTa hurt a little bit more than the than the grass if you get to slide on it but other than impacting kicks in making you a little bit more sore in good morning how much impact it actually has. Let's get to twitter because we did have some fans right in and wanted to find out some things here about the team. one of them had said what are are the positive takeaways from the game for me. I think it was defensive in Benson may be at a pretty decent game miles. Would you agree yes yes I would. Did you know it's good to see him. Get another game with sacks ranked. The sackler on the raiders last year had four sacks right so when you've got a guy who's already got three three in your two games into the season. Is that everything no. Is it nothing. I don't think I I don't think it's nothing either so yeah. It's good to see that from him for sure he actually in this recording a sack in this game it was the first time in his career he had notched sacks in consecutive games ever and it was also the first time he forced a fumble in consecutive games in his career so I think for him things are on the upswing that question from John Man at be L. K. Mt And I think that that means Black Mountain three so thank you for that question another. Raider Fan wrote and this is from Darnall at Raider Nation Seven. Oh two what up seven oh two he said adding insult to injury the Egli results after an ugly game and this being too when I had commented on on the players who had been taken to the medical tent or had sustained an injury in the game game. He said it's not a surprising result though since we always have problems. I'm paraphrasing there against the chiefs nowadays. The secondary play was flat out embarrassing embarrassing though when it comes this comment. Do you really think that the secondary play was that bad or Adam. Is it just like we said earlier just missed communications or I I think when it's when it's so glaring one quarter and it just over and over again I think I don't know that bears. His is the wrong word. Necessarily it was I think it was so it was just so much jumped out like how bad or playing in that quarter but as I said a lot of it wasn't necessarily the play a a lot of miscommunication. There was different things that were going on out there so I don't know that that's completely unfair but I also have to look at the rest of the game. They played a a pretty well at times in stretches and I know the chiefs weren't really going all out airing out necessarily later in the game because they had a lead in they're playing a different style really which was interesting because they can run the Bosnia the we're not the clock with short passes and just kind of do that way but you know yet it was was it very much showed up for that core back toback drive ninety five and ninety four yards That's the that's not acceptable so I don't think I don't think anybody. Am that in that room would tell you that they were pleased with how that went down in this episode. Vegas nation will be right back. Sdn In sports is the only sports betting APP. You need this season sign up today and get a new sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars. The second interception will blow my mind forever like he was offensive. Passer translate said he was blocking so I asked the man I said Sir I said why. Why would I throw him the ball if he was blocking and he didn't have an answer for mainland walked away so I I just I don't I don't know what to do in that. You know since we got the coverage we want the exact. Look we want to where I'm supposed to throw it and they tackle a receiver yet. It's a penalty on us like that but this is changing the outcomes of football game right th that shouldn't happen that blows my mind when things like that happen. I get kind of upset. I wanted to get into something that Derek Carr was mad about as well. I've seen this the post press conference that he was a little upset about the offensive pass interference call that happened in the third quarter and that was right after he the second interception this was a flag came in and it was for pass interference so I I wanted to find out this has been a big deal with the NFL this year miles miles. What was your take on this penalty and Derek cars argument with it. Wow I don't think he was a little man. He was big mad. 'cause there were people. I was having come into this team for that long but there are people in the in the press box who were saying. They never really seen car that steamed as he was after a play. I mean He. Wu's gesturing waved his arm. Basically saying that's ridiculous so when he said after the game and that interception came on and drive arrive where it looked like the raiders might get something going he was trying to get the ball to Ryan. Grant on the slant route rent runs into tire matthew when war makes the interception in to me. It's the offense passenger brings a moot point and I think it was defensive. Pass interference either. I thought it should have just been a no call. They declined the penalty anyway way so there's a part of me. That understands why Derek Carr Jon Gruden were upset but the way I saw the play the other thing that I noticed on it was Ryan grant extended his the arms when he was going into the honeyman right so if anything that's going to be called offensive pass interference whether you are in the intended receiver or not you extend your arms. That's what I also think on that play part of why we saw him so angry he said after the game is that he went to the official racial instead. Why would he be blog or throw to him if he was blocking in the official didn't ads earned his walked away from him and I know that in those kinds of situations athletes I do hate that I've talked to several of the pass. It told me the same thing like a referee or an empire in baseball. Just completely ignores them. If they're trying to have a conversation about something so I I think it was it was the the call it was the frustration of interception but I also think it was that interaction the official that released them all K- When we look ahead just briefly even though we're going to get it into a game previews later this week we'll put those out every Friday for anyone who listens to the show here you can catch everything on of course as I mentioned earlier on the Vegas nations advocates nation dot com but we look ahead to the schedule. This was the raiders last home game for the next five weeks not including their bye week so six weeks away from being home. Adam you mentioned it earlier. They won't be back until they face the lions on November third in Oakland. This obviously is a pretty big loss when you're going ahead and looking at a schedule that includes Houston the Colts Green Bay the bears the Vikings. This is going to be a very rough stretch for the raiders gators when you when you look ahead to the Vikings game just that one alone. What do you think does right now looking ahead. If this raiders team goes in looking like they did today the they take a win home at all actually in that stretch. I I know it just said Vikings but when you look at those next five games. Do you think the raiders can pull away a win playing the way they did today from any of those teams well. I mean I. I don't think if you look at the rest of the game. He's the second quarter I I don't think there was certainly some positives to take away. in a couple of those places in you know. I know what he's GonNa be thrilled with anything that happened when one quarter is so bad but I think there. There's things to build on a going forward now. That being said Yeah. They're going to be underdogs in all these games but you know could the dolphins win. In the next five leaks shirt. I mean anybody can win on any any Sunday any week in the NFL so it's going to be possible for them to get a win. They're not going to be expected to. They're not going to be favored in any of those games. They're are going to be significant underdogs in all five of those coming up. I thought before the year that had a very realistic opportunity one in six and I haven't seen anything to make me you think otherwise miles. What's your take on that all. I think there's GonNa be some of these games that they can win. I honestly I think they can win next week. At Minnesota. I'm not that big of a believer in Kirk cousins and I think that there are some things that are going on in Minnesota sometimes where they might not they might amass you it because rally alley the raiders had problems in one core this game on defense so if they can sure up the defense and then maybe just get some more things going in the run game elul more consistency from Derek Carr. He's not turning the ball over at that then. You're getting on the same page with your wide receivers then then they're going to be opportunities here. I really do think that they have something at least in Josh Jacobs and he gets fifty one yard run today. That's something that you you can really build upon and so yes when you say you know. There was one really bad quarter on defense. It's kind of like other than that. Mrs Lincoln how was the way but at the same time there is definitely stuff to build on we will look forward to all of that for the raiders on this podcast as we go ahead and look into the Vikings game on our next one that one again dropping on Friday and four today that'll do it here on the Vegas Nation podcast but you can catch every game recap that we do on Vegas Nation Dot Com the Vegas it gives nation APP Review Journal dot com slash podcast or anywhere else you find your shows biggest nation is brought to you by Sdn Sports Mobile by stations casino and find find us all on twitter at Miles Simmons at Adam Hill lv RJ. I'm Ed Heidi paying for miles and Adam. Thank you so much for listening.

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Who will the Raiders target in free agency?

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Who will the Raiders target in free agency?

"Like I said to bring a right kind of people went here we think that can build championship football team because the most loyal fans in the world and I know it hurts that we might not be the Oakland raiders forever but we are still raider nation I think it's going to be turning the facility in Alameda. Some aspects of the financials and the Coliseum Authority believe that it seems to be of a financial nature but what can you tell us about that snag and the potential that it has to unravel this entire deal yeah well I welcome everybody to the Vegas Nation podcast I'm your host Heidi Bang and joined along with me today is our review journal beat writer for the Raiders Michael Milkin Al say that where we are today which is I had somebody who's closely involved in discussions tell me on Thursday Maybe go into the raiders what they would have to give up for him I would think it would be a lot but before we get into that let's go ahead and talk a little bit to discuss this hiccup that had a row around had arisen and McCain received directive to proceed with the raiders in terms of just trying to figure this out so otherwise pretty quiet. How're you doing I'm doing all right I've been keeping on top of everything going on with the possibility of Antonio that is happening but this meeting is going to be agenda as in short order That is the full expectation from all this with the raiders expect a you know there was an obstacle that the raiders traded and it's no longer an obstacle moving forward it's been resolved on that they will be back in Oakland that they will play at the coliseum but again there seems to be a snag as he reported just on Thursday Michael the snag out this lease agreement because I'm pretty sure that Raider nation wants to know where their team will be playing when it comes down to the two thousand nineteen season and it seems like you said that this is all but of the Coliseum Authority next Friday a week from today as we chat and that this is going to get done and so again there's some final lawyer review and that person expressed he just wishes that somebody would say this means over because essentially is and that we're going to have a meeting in front heifers everything for the silver and Black Michael how are you doing today just ahead of free agency things are ramping up how is it going on your end of things I'm doing all he has to see through before you can make such desperation but this thing is headed in that direction there was an issue a week ago the raiders raised who's a true threat to this deal getting done then on Thursday afternoon Wednesday and Thursday this thing was resolved and L. Heal you have free agency starting up next week you have the possibility of a stadium lease being finalized that's considered imminent lawyers at the foot people in the Coliseum Authority expected Scott McCabe the executive director of the Coliseum Authority is the lead negotiate negotiator on this deal it just crossing the final ts dotting the final is there and a possibility of Antonio Brown trade chat here on Friday he has yet to be dealt and again on Friday we're just waiting for the final word that's over really on Wednesday Wednesday morning at nine am the Coliseum Authority met in a special closed session meeting through it and over the coming hours by afternoon I was told it had been resolved so that problem is no longer a problem and we are where we were last Friday where Oh you're reviewing this document and it should be ready again for vote in very short amount of time and again that deal means that the raiders will be paying seven point five not be ready but if let's just say this thing completely falls apart and it's derailed entirely and there is a big snag and it's bigger than we ain't although I know that your information and your information is usually pretty airtight but is there a backup plan if anything should fall apart here million to play in Oakland in two thousand nineteen and they do have that option to play there in twenty twenty at ten and a half million should the stadium here in Las Vegas Small Rent Reduction if the raiders do what they intend to do which is to play one of their two home exhibitions longtime the raiders we saw last year hosted joint practices with the Detroit Lions possible that these practices happen again out to get done he ends interesting you bring up Canada I had heard that the raiders are looking to put a preseason game out there in Canada for this coming a lot of different teams have seemed to put up offers for him and I had read that everything needs to be on the table to the season do you know anything about that. And what's in the works for the raiders having one preseason game played out in Canada as a home game right yeah reported that the raiders CFL team rough riders play that is a possibility but nothing's official yet in the front Raiders would rather there'd be as little as possible as alerts by today if they had interest in Antonio Brown are the raiders still one of those teams Michael a couple of things obviously this is the situation right now that are up for trade that are things were working out almost with the buffalo bills with Antonio Brown but it seems that Antonio Brown does not want to go to the bills half-million but with a backup option is I don't know there is no real quality backup option which is one more reason why everyone believes correctly that this deal is going to get done the raiders are full his entire focus is headed towards the free agency market and what is available there obviously there's some big name players like Antonio Brown went practices with the La rams the defending NFC champions. Sean McVeigh and Jon Gruden are very close friends family friends that go back to the sorry to achieve one hundred or more catches in a single year and so this is a player that we're talking about here he's an all pro he's an all world within what they like and so will see exactly when this resolution on Antonio Brown comes but while it could happened today while this year is hope that it happens today doesn't necessarily need to happen today March seventeenth is winning a roster bonus is due to Antonio Brown Pittsburgh related it will be there's there's no guarantee that it will materialize but that is their hope the disdain gets done with they're playing gain Canada they also intend to away from the coliseum away from Oakland it exported Canada's a possible option we'll see ultimately what the raiders do they are able to do as they hope but ed but right now don't know exactly whether the training camp of joint practice will be in Napa or will be Irvine where rams host work their way through that situation so but I I don't know the answer to that and in terms of you know where exactly it would be because the raiders don't know yet we're exactly importance talk about the timing of it you mentioned the Friday reported deadline on it that is with the steelers would like but the market for Antonio Brown as this equation that the raiders haven't been comfortable with and so you've seen reports that the raiders are the ones really pushing the activity on the saying that the team that's been a real comfortable area in terms of where this contract will land yes there's a chance absolutely that Antonio Brown could be a raider do not rule this possibility we prepared and expecting to play in Oakland City of Oakland Alameda County fully expect that they will this is a deal that is Friday chance to sing carries into next week possibly so port st moving forward the raiders have some pause certainly before then and ideally before the legal tampering period on March eleventh but again things don't happen to the steelers satisfaction on free agency Antonio Brown and he would insert himself into being the number one wide receiver offense a huge upgrade I just don't know are gonNA be exploring that option You know there are a number of options that they have looked into sketch on and Regina is one of them were the in that many people are interested in given the quality of player that Tony around is I mean there's really no question as to why six straight seasons of at least one you're in the free agent market and again on the eleventh the legal tampering period opens and then March thirteenth is officially it's all I don't know the backup plan I just know it's not probably more as you said it'll be seven million for two thousand and in nineteen for the season it could be less than that there could be the real impediment on this thing it's going to be the contract but do not count the raiders out entirely this is a quality football player who has been a headache players as well that may be looked at somebody like decay metcalf I know Jon Gruden talked about him to the media during the combine week and said that you know he their training camp it really depends on if she presumably they do have a preseason game against each other or that preseason game that is between the two locations all right now I would imagine that the raiders I'm just excuse for a second all of the office field drama that surrounded him when that player wants a new contract it introduces an element is built like a tank I if you look at the guy to me he looks like the rock but runs like forrest gump he's super fast man and I think that that somebody would be phys his contract it'd be one thing acquiring a man of Brown's talents to add as a number one wide receiver it's quite another when that player but there are some reservations at the raiders are working their way through if they are to acquire Antonio Brown I ost serious serious players for tyrel Williams the six foot four Los Angeles chargers wide receiver has developed of considerably since he entered the League as an undrafted their discomfort with his contract situation if Jerusalem House Antonio Brown's agent and the raiders can find too far ahead of themselves to forget where they are as a football team and to rush this rebuild in so as we enter for agency next week been free game beginning of the season so we have golden tate out there this tyrel Williams who I think would make a great fit with the raiders and then you know there's some other the most aggressive in really all that I haven't heard that to necessarily true they're really playing this scene at their own speed because of one hundred receptions. He's the first player in history ever to do that by comparison Tim Brown in one thousand ninety seven was the only raiders player in franchise history out but I appreciate the hurdles that we need to be cleared for it to be the case raiders had talked a lot about building through the drafts about not leading for the Pittsburgh steelers if they've leaving the talent there's a chance they can find a way to fit him on this football team that the raiders I think could also look at other options and wide receiver raiders do want to address wide receiver over the next two months that'd be infringe insanity and or the draft as released a free agency look for them to be repertoire really makes them the premium wide receiver in this class certainly the best outside receiver in this class this season in Oakland at the Coliseum and then another exhibition somewhere off a distance perhaps Canada that's kind of where the raiders are terms of thinking and planning robot this an article that occurred Wednesday evening in the review journals in Friday's print edition some pause as it relates to Antonio Brown's situation namely has taken steps in his game each year he's been in the League you look at in particular how he's able to use his size I used to cover the chargers so when you have guys twenty seven years old and can run like tyrone Williams can run he's going to have a market north of ten million probably San Diego he both guys Frank Reich and exterior on your respectively are Indianapolis now you have Cleveland that has he's somebody who when you look at the raiders situation you look at Yes they are in California today but they are going to be in Nevada next year the other slot receivers you know Jon Gruden wants and outside guy number one but he also wants a slot receiver this offseason so that you don't need to do both agency rookie from Western Oregon a division two school he was thrown in the fire a couple of years ago and went down to injury and he's really been somebody who had Michael I was doing some stalking of Tyrone Williams on social media and I found that he actually attended a UFC fight card here in Las Vegas just last weekend real need at the wide receiver position Buffalo has the possibility to we know that they are in the wide receiver market there's some other teams as well cool player in somebody that could grow with the raiders but we'll look into the draft that comes along but what do you think about the market Michael who is out there who the and in Napa with the rams coming up before a few days before say exhibition at the Coliseum s you'd have one home game during the pre what his future could hold that's interesting I didn't know that he was in Las Vegas no doubt he visited I'm sure for the for the fight but he did so get one in March and another April in the draft and so what's the other raiders stagger their needs and hit hit them over the course of his period but it is a critical as of today eldest secrecy said correct seven million for this year to then an option as an insurance policy assurance policy should stay in Las Vegas not be ready of ten here is could put their I on it's not a great wide receiver market and for the raiders they are treading carefully as relates the free agency in general colts whose head coach and offensive coordinator used to be tyrone Williams is offensive coordinator and wide receiver coach in well aware of the Raiders Future Direction so I'm sure such thoughts into his mind and you do mention obviously the future and the raiders looking ahead to this big Free Agency and the raiders are right there I mentioned Tara Williams with Western Oregon is the West Coast Guy just bought a house or built a house on the lines in northern San Diego we'll familiar with his game when he began his career in terms of he had the size but didn't really play up to his size he let the ball come to him he wasn't somebody a quarterback eurostate income taxes I think that is a factor this year when the raiders are seeking out these top dollar for agents so we'll see how it all materializes I humphries trust in contested catch situations that began to change really last year something the chargers worked really hard to develop his game that step in his formation but as the free agency nears the raiders are continuing to hold on and tenders some of those who they want to have on the team next year like Jalen Rashard he who do you think out there right now could possibly fill that hole molest so voided when Khalil Mack left the team so that kind of piqued my interest because I thought well maybe he's out here taking a look in a scouring the lay of the land is trying to see what the future could hold investment to expect to begin to replace a premium player and that number four overall pick is a good place to look for position if he isn't already gone because we know at this point I'm assuming like nick boasts going to be gone but that's a position to be addressed as well but the price is right whether or not the raiders are willing to make that dip it's really gotta contract that comes together for this deal to happen I don't think the draft tick is going to be period and we're GONNA be watching closely exactly how the approach that position but Tara Williams I'm spend so much time on emphasis I can tell you this is somebody the raiders want in their buildings and I'll tell you what and drafting eighty cents lyman somebody who can get after the quarterback Josh Allen is probably the most realistic option you know Mike Mayock really believes that Tracy is where you supplement your rosters not where you build your roster you want to build through the draft last night at the raiders can afford to do it got a second round tender from the team Darryl Worley and also a safety Eric Harris but I feel like they are going to do some upgrading as well Michael for the raiders are GonNa make that investment be shocked if the raiders do anything at number four overall maybe a site trading do anything other than the three draft picks that they have in the first round and they have also another pick early in the second round the as the free agency nears you wrote here on the Review Journal and again you can find on Thursday late in the evening they rebel to reach a two year extension worth up to six and a half million for him so he'll be part of things as rotational safety as somebody who can and when you consider quitting Williams of Alabama and Joey Bosa of figuring it'd be off the board by them and all reports indicating that cuyler a quarterback of Oklahoma is going number one overall and so if you felt that there were three pass rushers that Michael Work here on review dot com and every podcast wherever you download make sure to subscribe we do this as much as we can with any new maybe he's just a huge MMA fan like I am I thought maybe maybe there's a chance that he was out here and getting the wheels clicking in his mind trying to think about discuss about how the raiders my address it in free agency again the legal tendering period opening march eleven marshawn Lynch do you think the beast mode return. CBS Course Special Teamer but he was much more than just a specialty guy last year there's some pieces. They're harassed now being one of them but the raiders closer to twelve we'll see how close he can push thirteen fourteen. A raiders are going to be the only team in Antero Williams not by a long shot Indianapolis the raiders draft or looks like we don't know feel about and Oliver we don't know how they feel about Montesquieu way we don't know about any of those things but certainly Josh Allen would represent a huge addition to this defense a much needed one if the raiders are in that position to do so Michael you got to get in that draft room you got it everybody if collar Maragos number one that assures that one of those three will be available to the raiders at number four overall of course we don't know what earns to the raiders or do we look at somebody in free agency there are a few running backs out there j. always kind of been injury Kevin Coleman from Atlanta there's a few guys who may possibly be available there at that position do the raiders look to re the safety position perhaps in their defensive back position and definitely we know they're gonNA be looking for somebody that edge rush I know in the draft Josh Gene in Oakland there is a chance that he returns sounds like he's willing to play if the raiders are Oakland and it sounds like he's really only willing to play challenge just seems to be one of those top picks he's a player out of Kentucky and he did very well in the combine he's somebody I would think that the raiders have to have their eye on at that so they're basically starting over at the position defense overall you know they have some key pieces and certainly there's no disrespect to those who are here but and they sit their way through them and then of course we know the depth drafts tends to be quite the opportunity to find a running back swear to be there number one but how that amounts to how that shakes out I think it's one of those fluids situations again where team enters afraid superior with the number of options thank you so much for all the information that you always bring us here and we will be back with more from the NFL draft as we get into some preview shows here on Vegas nation on right now and it can marshawn lynch like you said somebody who was born in Oakland who went to high school college everything in the East Bay I would imagine that the tune in for those to check out all episodes of Vegas nation they're available on Apple Podcasts Stitcher and review journal Dot com slash podcast make sure to subscribe to the there is GonNa be obviously difficulty replacing coolmax Hey we certainly saw that last season right now are keys the only defensive end under contract for the raiders acts and all that I would I think Kevin Coleman is interesting name the launch I can see the raiders making a run a him marshawn lynch with the team and so the Raiders WanNa build around the block that they have a you mentioned safety Eric Harris who the team did extend a tender research for agency on Thursday also the board looks like as we get closer to wrapping things up there is one more position that I wanted show and give us bopha follow on twitter at Galkin NFL and Heidi Bang for Michael Belkin Emmy thank you for listening the plays out the free agency you never know what's going to happen it's like the wild west out there once it gets going so Michael That is actually all the time we have for today but again for the Oakland Raiders and so I would say the door from advantage point is open I also think that the raiders are taking it I don't rule out marshawn lynch but I this is one of those fluid situations that the raiders are working their way through and it's kind of hard to project where they're gonNA land where he would want to finish out his career and Gruden did say at the NFL combined that he's still had some interest in beast mode so we'll see how that goes and like really critical look at the position and given quality some durability concerns as it relates to marshawn Lynch probably are willing to find back a they'll get an army coming into Las Vegas it's time for the Vegas Nation podcast with your host Heidi Fang and Michael BALCON for example one of the finest starter at safety they WANNA bill all around but again to your question how did they replace clawback it's going to require a pre invest heavily you could argue this one Jalen Sharjah's back the raiders have some pieces in that Backfield Chris Warren coming off of the knee injury really was stashed Ardley united as one person close to it all told me it's Kinda like an expansion defense from a from a town standpoint introduced kind of starting over even drafted for agency you can drafted rookies following the draft. 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Will Raiders Training Camp Come to Henderson, Position Battles

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Will Raiders Training Camp Come to Henderson, Position Battles

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We're your home here for everything happening with the silver and black so make sure to subscribe wherever you're listening. Follow along on social media at Vegas nation download the biggest nation APP and check US OUT ON VACATION DOT COM to keep up with all the great content and articles. All these guys are writing going back here. Want everyone to make sure that you check out Vegas nation blitz. That's airing every Wednesday night at eight. Pm on Cox Channel Fourteen. That's our new half hour long program covering everything to do with the raiders in the NFL's well so We will be doing that. Repeatedly throughout everything comes up here during the week so make sure to check that again. Cox Your View Channel Fourteen all right. So let's get into it. The off season is underway. We've had raiders out here practicing all over town. We're starting to see maybe some signs that perhaps training camp and many camps and all of that is going to take place here in Henderson. Many I want to go to you on this and ask you What you've heard. And what's been the buzz about the training camp which was originally thought to say a NAPA? So that the Raider fans could get you the same experience that they're used to with the team and having been there for so long That's been their home for training camp but now with the coronavirus pandemic it may seem logistically. Like it'll be better thing for the team to come here get adjusted and start working out here in Henderson. What have you heard about that? All options are still on the table including You know remaining in Napa so they don't have to make a decision anytime soon but the is pretty much looming of when they've got you got gotta decide what to do but it makes a lot of sense in in Henderson for various reasons You don't have to transport an entire team. Coaching staff and support staff and all that you guys have been training camp. You know that. It's not just fired coaches. There's so many other people that are involved That have to live on hotel And move basically for about a month or so So maybe especially for health reasons and trying to keep it a little bit more under control as far as covid. Nineteen all the protocols and everything that's going to be in place to do it centrally here. in Henderson their new facility. Also your from the raiders perspective. They're making huge move. Obviously from Oakland to Las Vegas and in some cases players are already ear and a lot of other cases. You know they are. A heritage building has not opened up yet. In Henderson it will. You're a couple of weeks But one thing that they're they're also thinking about his. Hey maybe we can expedite the transition process for players coaches everybody else by getting Bam here earlier so that they could get used to the area that it used to the building. The commute all those little things that create a comfort level as you're preparing for for a season so that comes into play and obviously he year is a consideration but there's ample space they have a huge fieldhouse at had one and a half football fields. So they'd be in their position to be able to make that happen from a practice standpoint so for all those reasons in who knows even if California's GonNa be open in time for training camp as it is for all those reasons. There's a chance I would say they bypassed Napa and just go straight to Henderson for now ahead looked over some things this morning on Napa websites and what they're doing right now at corona virus and there's still a non essential businesses are shut down. They haven't gone with the full reopened yet. Their cases aren't really huge as far as numbers but they seem to be as every city is escalating throughout as each day passes so It seems like you know what you're saying. It might be better to stay closer to home will new home base here in Las Vegas Amid the virus but Adam. I'm wondering when you start to think about team Camaraderie. And how we're seeing them practice out here in the parks in Las Vegas and starting to get a feel for the the slight lift in altitude that Las Vegas presents as well where over two thousand feet so That's something to it just to as well and the heat You know I'm wondering. Do you think the team chemistry takes a hit? If they can't start doing these kinds of things here in Las Vegas or is it better for team chemistry that you know I mean when you have training camp these guys are all at this hotel and Napa. They all get to hang out together. They're in the same area if they're in their homes here in Las Vegas. They don't really have that opportunity to do that but they are still doing some buildings. So Do you think team? Chemistry takes a hit in any way with this. I'm an ethics. I think it does but the thing you have to look at us and it happens for all teams. I mean it's a lot of teams are going to be in the same this year Nobody is in their facilities. Nobody is having these on field. you know. Ota's and that sort of thing so everybody has to try to find their own ways. And the raiders are doing. I know there are there down here in our neighborhood. Right around the corner of the park. Throw the ball around in Ginza workouts. It that's going to be contingent on the players to do that to to get together and have their their sessions to. I mean I don't think you can build chemistry. The same way through zoom caused that you do from hanging out being being young same place in the training Camp Napa In that sort of thing so Yes I think it does hinder it and I think it does hinder the ability to kind of get on the same page on the field and and in the Walker by I think all those things are impacted but teams in the same boat. I will say the the issue the dress have the training. Camp is that yeah. I think everything makes sense to be Henderson. Like that makes total sense to be here but the the benefit of Davidoff up above and beyond just how setup is with the Marriott right there in the field and everything else that they have is that is kind of the ideal scenario. A for dearly with the protocols are going to be a place for health and safety where you can just have. Everybody isolated hotel tell. Everybody can't leave and stay on the promise. This when you when you do have training camp and Henderson which I would imagine that they end up doing You have the everybody leaving going home. Going about their daily lives Out and about in the community. Which is exactly what you don't want black. I I would Roca Disa- jump in here. I think they would probably do Whether it's the M hotel which is super nearby or another hotel They would they would keep the players in a central location in Boston. Back and forth filled. That's what I was getting getting to that. You're GONNA have to. You're GONNA have to kind of simulate whatever you have in terms of isolating people but Yeah I mean ideally like if you're GONNA ask for a perfect setup it would be a hotel where you don't have to leave the field right there. He got away To you know if you do have that setup where everybody is a hotel somewhere and then you figure out how to how to make that happen but you just don't have that ideal scenario like you do Up IN NAPA. But they'll figure it out and I'll make those things happen but yes in the anterior question. Everybody's impacted in terms of of cohesiveness. But that's all teams. All teams are in the same boat right now at the raiders is facing uphill battle here being that they're moving to a new city having to deal with the virus everything else that's happening around them. I mean odds right now even when you start looking at games and numbers like just the schedule that they have ahead of them Getting used to a new place so the new facility everything like how do you see this team fighting back through all of this are completing on the same age with what the Guy said? Specifically to Adams that he's righted the virus part. That's GONNA be everybody who can handle that the most and I really don't think moving different cities. Waterberg is already here. They're GONNA be in a beautiful sunny that falls is there is. There is a very good. If they're six it's nothing to do with our world grows some have been on thirteen. So why the guys? I think overall it's utter third Henderson. They can make it so you know little things that nobody is there weight room up to date? You know other facilities either film or do they have everything in Henderson. That allows will have by far the best training camp they will have to make the move just for. Sake and get them here and to get them you know comparable they're setting but I don't think overall has anything to do with their record records. Indeterminate on how good. They are in the field. Everyone's every back and by the same rules and Whitney's back we could practice. But if you're asking me where in off an interest go to Anderson and if you can't one more year NAPA is not the worst thing but I would think they'd want to get here as soon as possible so everything the guys enter on and on. I don't worry at all Irish in terms of their record nothing to do with how they play. Everyone's in the country reminds us that it was kind of interesting in the raiders. Case is if you look at their roster turnover in a lot of it is young players so you don't have like when the rams moved from Saint Louis to Los Angeles. There were a lot even though they weren't a good team by any stretch of imagination they had a whole bunch of players that had been invented in Saint Louis for so long So it was a huge transition for allow those guys because you have kids that are in school your family. You have ties to a community that you've built over a long period of time. Same for the chargers in San Diego. I don't really get that sense With this this raiders team short of Derek Carr and a couple of the veterans although there. Aren't that many when you really look at it. These are a bunch of guys that just got there last year year before basically So they didn't get end. They knew that they are moving to it. Didn't come anybody that was drafted since twenty sixteen seventeen. I should say a right around then knows what. The situation is a been mentally preparing for that as well and again that roster is in full of a bunch of player you know they know Oakland. Their life has been oprah their families in Oakland. Their kids go to school in Oakland So I'm wondering if that's going to actually help them with with the process. Yeah and that leads me to what I wanted to discuss here of any is that you wrote about all the different position battles. That could happen here on this team and there are so many people in play here that we have to start looking at. You know who's going to be having their spot challenge. And who can we expect to see in starting positions and one of those that I liked best? What you brought up here in your article was the position. A cornerback. You have Trayvon Molin but now bringing Prince Amukamara who is a veteran of the League has had a ton of experience so You know it's something that we have to start looking at is how will the position battles officiate up as we start to look at training camp so You wrote the article Vinnie. What do you make at battle there? At cornerback we talked about the signing principle. Kamara in the safety net that it creates for a very very young Cornerback roommates technically at that spot opposite Trayvon Mullen. Who's no gray haired themselves? He's only to a second year so at Started ten games last year as young as it is so so prince obviously creates a level of certainty and professionalism veteran presence but they also invested nineteenth pick overall in David net from Ohio state in. They certainly didn't drop the player that high Set for very long. So it'll be interesting Your how that all plays out. I would imagine that you know Prince will against the call. Initially but I think as the year goes on down get sorted out and Arnett will get plenty of time plenty of opportunities to show the Guy. They also wrote about the slot. Cornerback a position where lamarcus joyner played last year. Not Very well mind you he. He just wasn't very good position but they really had no choice but to play him there and keep in mind he was signed quote unquote as a safety but he asked cornerback and safety in his background so he played slap quarterback you presume that he goes into that season they haven't made any changes You know said anything. Otherwise that he was gonNA to a switchback safety he's their slot corner but along comes League Robertson. Who's really good? You know if he if he translates no quickly to the NFL. He brings what he didn't college to the NFL. I think he's GonNa be knocking on the of that position fairly quickly and I talked to him. Megan is learning. They have them right now at slot. Cornerback that position that he's learning that you know what he's diving into mentally and all that I wouldn't be surprised if if he ends up taking lamarcus job maybe moves Lamarcus back to a position where he can play him. A bunch of different places whether it safety or somewhere in the cornerback population in whatever schemes? They're using so those are the two that that really jumped out at me. And of course The linebacker spot opposite little tin and equity house-key in. Who is going to win that job? Finding Jon Gruden about it He mentioned some players that are going to be in the running including Tanner For one thing that he did point out is you know we're in. We're nickle a dime coverage so much that third linebacker while it's important position no question about it. It's not a position it's a position that often comes off the field in certain packages on unknown passing. So it's it's an issue but it's on a major issue because I think they believe that they have enough bodies to cover it from time to that position is actually on the field. So yeah and I'm wondering what do you make of this? Cornerback battle as well. And do you think that this right now is one of the key positions that we'll see a battle for? Who's going to start at might be the decision terms of they? Better be better at it. You know because I do think a better linebacker. Probably a long time. They've improved defensively upfront If they have to be a lot corner s easy to say 'cause a lot of teams in the NFL have to say that asking in the NFL but route nine here you know daynard arena chance. I know it will be one game. I get that but I think it starts out probably might have been never lost verse games or is right away in the opener to prove guy and game but maybe camp send something distance phone and one the job I actually. We'll do what I like. Meat Robertson beating lamarcus cramming unknowable. Lamarcus JOYNER IS GONNA make ten million is real battle Fear but I tell Robertson redrafted on we talked about a four huge in terms of Air Adam and I were on different sides. Point at link abilities practicing plane tat I think you'd beats out joyner. I think they I think they want him. You know depend joyner tip wins lobby sees on can take that ten big draft a young guy for a reason. And if there's any sense amp not better news astier out Robertson's GonNa Pretty quickly I mean Jordan was abysmal. So unless he's a lot better I think they look strong. We're talking a rookie year. We keep naming rookies and that Robertson. But they they've been they've been really bad defensively for like fifteen years so I don't think it's crazy to think you know. We may have ruined the graphic eighth and beat making them better offensively and those guys. I think you're gonNA get really early. Chocolate start him right. So let's go and take a quick break here and when we come back we're also going to hear from Jalen Rashard an interview that he had with our Kathy. Soto and we're also going to talk a little bit about some rule changes coming up in the NFL. That have to be looked at so. Stay tuned right here on the Vegas Nation podcast. This episode of Vegas Nation will be right back. They say a healthy gut means a healthy. You favor apple cider vinegar shots bottle. This feeling into the convenience of a two ounce shot better digestion stronger immune system and the lowering of blood. Sugar levels are all just some of the benefits to shooting daily favor shot. Their proprietary blends are a raw and organic and mixed with other functional ingredients to create a better tasting experience. First Time shooters can go to drink a favor dot com. Welcome back to the Vegas Nation. Podcast we were just discussing some key position battles that we could see here as training camp approaches with the Las Vegas Raiders. Adam I wanted to get your take on that before we move on. Do you feel like this cornerback battle. And the the position battle there is going to be the biggest one that we see in this coming season. It'll be it'll be very high profile for sure because as you I mean. We're talking about here You've got a first round pick invested in Damon are. I think there are pretty comfortable with what you have on Monday last year on one side. But the that spot of WHO's GonNa join them between our net and Camara to me Is is intriguing. And I'm sure what they really want is for both to be very very good into making a tough decision That's WanNa see then. The guys mentioned the SLAW quarter battle. Which I think is good too but to meet defensively when you look at it I'm intrigued by the defensive line too because I just think there's so many you know somebody guy right there in the mix and could take a step forward and and could really stand out and brought in you know some veteran guys kind of battle there to to see you know what kind of impact call Nassif. Arriving has on Cleveland for all in pushing him. You know where these guys to kind of shake out of the defensive line and I really quickly collins brings a fits of watts that depths that they really haven't had Makes the defensive line battle really intriguing to me? And I think what what they're gonNA WANNA do is rotate is keep everybody fresh They want everybody to be able to be the next. But that's that's the kind of battle but I'm looking at Happens on the defensive line. How does that shake out? Who KIND OF WINS THAT BATTLE? Even though they're all going to be playing You know who's who's there when the season starts that that's intriguing to me. I we were talking about this. Whole onside kick rule and what it brings to the table here and I wanna get into that discussion because it was nixed here. tabled for another time to be discussed as a rule to bring in but some of the proof playing rules. Twenty twenty But I just want to briefly go over. Was that now. There's a rule preventing teams from manipulating the game clock. There's no more multiple dead ball fouls while the clock is running. They also have expanded the defensive player protection so on a kick return or a punt. Return them when they have possession of the ball but they have not had time to protect themselves and avoid contact. That is going to be expanded to protect these players. And then lastly the replay includes Orient Plays and turner aided by a foul and any successful or unsuccessful. Try Attempt they've made permanent the expansion of automatically reviews on those so very interesting stuff. The main one. I think that people are interested in about is the whole fourth and fifteen. An onside kick rule being tainted tabled. Vinnie McCall. What did you hear about this? Well you know I usually when rolls debt to our proposals tabled Die That's last year. See of it but I think this one's going to be different I think that they argue revisit at some point and I just think that in the Based on you know what we were told today in the in the conversation that was leading up to vote which lasted a good thirty minutes. Who was the most harness spent on any of these roles and proposals? Enough questions were raised. Enough concerns were raised. Where elite decided. Hey you know We might be headed in the right direction. But we're not there yet. Let's take a look at some of the things that were concerned about. See if we can retool it and revisit it at some point which I do think that they're going to do but for now The the role was was the proposal Stable than I'm not so sure that I agree with the reasoning I think there's a general fear among some owners that may not quarterbacks in the NFL and look around at some teams. That have really good quarterbacks and are worried that they're gonNA give an unfair advantage to teams with with really good quarterbacks which by the way those teams have an advantage to begin with throughout the course of a game because quarterbacks but but I think owners are worried about. Hey if I'm Mitee is in a situation where we've got thirteen point lead that we work really hard for. Why am I giving Patrick? Mahomes our Tom Brady or Russell Wilson Name. Your best quarterback in the League Aaron Rodgers wire might giving those guys in another chance better chance to get a comeback on me. Yeah so that's very interesting. I mean because when you think about some of these divisions with the quarterbacks and who can confer those fifteen yard plays that's interesting but I don't think it should have been tabled just because of that and Adam. What's your take on this? I'm surprised more than anything. I mean I thought that this had so much momentum I know talking to Some of some of the Begin siders from the media perspective. They were like. Oh yeah this is slam. Dunk question passing So so it is. It is a bit surprising to me that they didn't do this. I thought that it added a lot to the game. I mean Onside kicks late in the game. When you know they're coming are almost zero some chance. I mean it almost never happens where teams are able to recover it onside kick when they absolutely be too late in the game and I guess you could make the case like hey. It's supposed to be a desperate situation not supposed to be easy. But I I do think you know part of what they did with the kit or excuse me the extra point a couple of years ago. Was that your extra points. Were to automatic the happen too often and you want to at least make the play. Meet some things you don't want any meaningless plays out there So you know. An onsite gave. That almost never works. You would think that they would look at that and say we don't want that to happen anymore. We WANNA at least teams to have fighting chance to make a comeback late in the game and you know if a team is down fourteen. Make it so that they have a chance to do it. He was down twenty. Now you can have two times of getting that fourth fifteen so I think you keep more teams in the game which I think helps continue the interest not that they need much help in that area but if the plan is to get rid of plays that have no chance are or meaningless Thought this would happen but as news putting now I think teams had questions. I think there was a lot of questions about things like just as simple as wealthy. You can have a guideline up and go for four thousand fifteen a a pass interference or a holding penalty which you know defensive. Holding on those plays happen quite a bit Naga Senate perks down and they have the ball may continue to play those things. I think are questions but I think. The deposits far outweigh the negative across a bit. A bit surprise this the markup and real quick I have some numbers for you guys league wide if you just go if you just filter into whatever down in distance needing exactly fifteen yards at last year over five hundred. Seventy two plays where that was the case The conversion rate for first downs was fourteen percent okay. Well let's look at patch owns in exact judge in situations where he needed exactly fifteen yards for a first down. He was four in ten plays That was the case of achieves last year he was four. A passing for forty seven yards and no first downs. Okay so needing fifteen yards Mahakam. Were over the best in the league. Was Philip rivers with the chargers And there were eleven plays where the chargers needed fifteen yards exactly fifteen yards for the first down. The rivers was nine of ten passing for one hundred sixty four yards and converted Pfeiffer sounds forty five percent conversion rate at the league like I said the League Conversion rate was fourteen percent in that exact situation but one more thing about Patrick Mahomes. If you extend that to make it a third law much to say I at her fifteen between fifteen thirty yards for first down last year other a forty three ways that mahomes cheese faced that situation in those situations fifteen between needed routine to thirty yards for a first down. He completed thirty one of forty passes for five hundred. Seventy five hundred hundred yards and converted eight first downs for conversion rate rate of eighteen. Point six so he was actually better win was when he needed more yards for some auguries reason than than exactly fifteen. But it gives you an idea. That's the best quarterback in the League and and you don't need exert team you couldn't get the first out any of more than fifteen or more you know. Eighty point six. But it's not so crazy that prevent Conversion rate that to me anyway that you're giving him so much of a fair advantage or quarterbacks with Teams are teams with quarterbacks unfair advantage. I think that You know I just didn't I just didn't like I understand the penalty aspect of it You're putting defenses in a bad position and lots of first. Downs happened as of because of penalties. In those kinds of situations where you're being aggressive as a pass defender or whatever the case might be One other concerned they had. There's no instance right on an untimely play where you can actually score a touchdown so this was going to be on time. Play what owners. The illeg- started looking at is. Are we really okay with giving a team not only chance to convert a earth down to keep possession of the ball but are we okay with whatever complete a long bomb? In a goes touchdown time play. How fair is that so they also looked at that but I think more than anything in somebody joked in that in that discussion? Hey anyone with the current hall of fame quarterback should be disallowed from voting in this in the in the it was a joke but I think there is a little bit of truth to terms of in terms of the kick. And me saying you know. It's it's just a play that doesn't even it doesn't work it doesn't happen anymore Late in the game. It's just not feasible thing to score and then try to get the onside kick score again. Since they changed the onside kick rules in the kickoff rules two years ago teams are Obu for a hundred and four zero for one hundred and four. An onside. Kicks that are expected late in the game? It just. It doesn't happen. That's why were looking at alternatives to make the game excitingly at. I think I think the more the more meaningless plays and you have to me now. Onside kicks meaningless. The more meaningless plays you have the worse. It is for mean. Learn to listen to talk after this is good and also gonNA. I'm also very weary in the factory is account were extend. The Eagles were smart center. Is this I never believed it so I think they're just hiding the fact really? Is this but again. You said a lot will stop and it doesn't work. It doesn't work only coordinate. Only record similar things in terms of being successful and it's just another `nother situation where the eveline discipline pretty progressive when a lot of air is and they're just not rats here. I mean they're Tina the to worry there to nervous resting over the room You know as much as the NFL's opera in his tank it. I think we have an opportunity to make your game more exciting. You should jump on it as amazing horse. I some really bummed out that they didn't pass it and you know it's a second year now they'd want this nothing. GonNa Change so to four hundred twenty asked him. I mean you want what. Imada this wool to make it. No you know likable by enough owners to want to make it. Look Russo on vomited. Napping Donna been great matchmaker. More EXCITEMENT THAN GAME I. I'm good also protecting taught defensive players I think in this league there's been studies on On discussions. I never have a problem with that. I'm a huge white guy and in the Patriots I'm trying to waste. I'm gone so Yeah there you go as hoping for the sky judge but it seems we're going to get that in the preseason and here's some more numbers for you guys just so that. I don't WanNa make anyone's head explode with numbers but on the onsite kicks you know. There's a penalty rate about eighteen percent. And that's a pretty high as far as it goes in the NFL. And it's something that like Ed was saying. I think it'd just make it so much more competitive and intriguing in like Adam was a leading to if the scores are down by two possession kind of thing towards the fourth quarter and these guys at the chance to bring in this Fourth and fifteen on two different occasions in the game all it would have been so fun but we'll have to wait for another time so let's actually get into the interview that we had with Jalen Jalen Rashard our own. Cassie Soto was able to speak with him. Bow Ton of things that he has going on. I mean he's got his extension near at the raiders. He's a Harvard business certificate. He's also had a new child born this year. So let's catch up here with Jalen Rashard. How have you been handling this fourteen with some great news coming for you and really what made you inspired you to get a degree from Harvard where he was the program through the NFL that I had seen Nfl engagement and I was very interested. I was like Manny Harvard. You I had already did. Finance Count Like going into my second year in Miami and also the Harvard who who wants to pass Harvard up you know I ended up having to missed super bowl to go out there and do the jump start date for the program of but really what sparked my whole interest is just continuing to try to gain knowledge on business game knowledge on finances in Understanding out made some money and I WANNA be able to keep it in understanding that I have some ideas ing creative things flowing in my mind and I WANNA be able to act on those in the right way so that was the big thing of just jumping in and during this crossover program articles So grateful to to give to men forty other Professional athletes across a different sports. That is incredible. Really setting up your future. There for Jalen will moving on now to sort of on the field. Fewer signed as an undrafted. Free agent for the raiders. Back in twenty sixteen and we have definitely seen a bit of roster turnover since the Jalen. What do you think that Jon Gruden really season? You both on and off the field to keep you a part of this roster I would say he sees somebody that whatever they actually do a way to get the job you know whatever. My role is whatever. My role needs to be out do that now. Maximize that to the to the Anna. He sees somebody. That's a you know a threat. A weapon off feel like I can do just about anything and You know somebody you can depend on again relied on you know. I stay healthy In that's something that you know I tell guys all the time you can do any any and everything you want to stay healthy but like the man upstairs. WanNa sit you down. He don't sit you down so I've had some I've had some good mercy and luck with him a to be able to stay on the field and you know I just go out. There make plays man within within my my job within my role. Just go out there and be explosives or speaking of that role jalen coming into this season. Do you source. See Yourself taking on any extra leadership roles being that the running back or is pretty young group of guys Definitely Just because I'm getting up there in age in fooball years and you know going on my fifth year considered somewhat of a vet by then and just leadership role. The guys just coming with the open. Mind just asking questions about anything whether it's hard to be a pro out of handle this off the field Things of finances of and really just you know how they can really expand all of their talents at this level. You know really on and off the field. I'll take that leadership role adeptly into running back room on. The road is running back now on the. I've had all the Og's I've had you know the Doug Martin the Mary Voschana h you know so now. I gets a pass down some of those things that I took from those three guys in the past along these guys. What are your thoughts on the draft class on? Why do you think you can really? They can expand the team making that much better coming into Las Vegas speed. You saw what he did. I speed Harry. He's going to be able to open up. A lot is going to be able to. You know be able to get the ball on mobile the top. I trust mayock in Gruden. Obviously you saw. What is the last year? And I expect different from guys this year And also the Free Agency acquisitions that we made In this off season everyone's GonNa come and being contributed. One thing that I love that grew does is like he's all about bringing in the most talent the most talent he can in training camp in it just makes him more competitive than makes you elevate your game to another level with all this talent around to make this team was only so many jerseys they they can hand out so I think Iraq is going to be a big big impact again on. Obviously we got the. Db's we got the They'll play ally the land boding be moving around Henry rugs that are just given so much another weapon on offense and another tool in office so I think is is on work again. That was Jalen Rashard and if you missed the full interview you can catch that right now. On our replay of the Vegas Nation Blitz that's available on Vegas Nation Dot Com? But that'll do it for us here today on this show and make sure to subscribe wherever you're listening so that you can keep up with all things that we are doing here and also follow on Social Media Vegas nation check out the APP download that today a nation as everything else is here. We keep everything. Going on with the raiders. So guys I appreciate all you today and all your take. This was a great show. And we'll be back again next week at the same time. So for Ed Grainy Adam Hill and Vinnie bonsignore. I'm mighty Fang. Thank you for checking us out.

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Raiders Mock Draft continued, The Jeudy-Lamb-Ruggs Debate

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Raiders Mock Draft continued, The Jeudy-Lamb-Ruggs Debate

"Hey there we blew are just wanted to take a second to thank you for listening to this podcast. He know everything outside is pretty scary and uncertain. But we're committed to helping you get through your day by talking about the sports teams that you love most. If you're looking for more great podcasts to distract you check out blue wire pods dot com. Thanks for listening. Enjoy THE PODCAST. And stay safe. We are Excited to know where we're GONNA be playing and excited to have a city that is cited by having a one dollars no matter what said we are. Now the Las Vegas Raiders. What's up everyone? Welcome to another episode of the Vegas Nation. Podcast brought to you by the end. Sports Mobile by station casinos and presented to you on the Blue Wire podcast network. Join with miles. Simmons Vinnie Bonsignore an atom. Ill today we are going to wrap up what we think of the raiders and the NFL draft. Coming up here in twenty twenty on this show. 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I said before we are your source here for all things. Raiders are a guy so let's get into it here a little bit of news though first before we get into this mock draft that we're GONNA finish up but I'm the raiders have extended the payments for the season tickets to July third Adam. They've already pushed back the days from April fifteenth and again on May The First Eight. Excuse me where April fifteenth and May Fifteenth and then the corona virus it. And it's really had an impact on the economy. People don't know When they make it jobs back if they have been laid off everything has just kind of gone to a standstill. Las Vegas is still on shut down until April thirtieth. So there's many circumstances right now that we can't even put a finger on. What do you think the raiders do here in terms of trying to get those final payments? Done I don't think they know really. I mean they're and the dates and the setting new parameters for this but I think lake them. They're playing the same kind of I don't WANNA call it a game with they're playing. They're playing the same deck. That really has been out and trying to figure out exactly where we are. Mortgage companies are sending out. You'll letters that you you don't have to pay your mortgage certain situations and you know. Landlords are are kind of figuring out how to deal with tenants and everyone else is not working like the economy is just completely stalled right now so this is just another example of an organization trying to work with people and trying to figure out the best method to go forward in a situation that nobody has ever dealt with before all right so adam things again for that and again. We'll keep you updated on everything that we find out as the Las Vegas economy continues to try to recover as the shutdown is right. Now we're looking at maybe things reopening after April thirtieth but of course that all depends on how things are panning out with this corona virus and how the Raider recovery is for people and everything happening right now around the globe. Is something again that we keep discussing and saying it's unpredictable. We don't know so we're GONNA keep an eye on everything that we find out with. News for you on the raiders and keep you up to date there Right now let's go ahead and get into this a mock draft here. We have the last two picks of the raiders for the twenty twenty draft to get into. That'd be the fourth and Fifth Round Picks Picking at one twenty one spot and again at one hundred fifty nine spot of the NFL draft so Vinnie out. Who are you looking at in the fourth round for the in the Fourth Round? Pick One. Twenty one I'M GONNA go running back. I think that Josh Jacobs today's trend in the NFL is your share. The load you know what? A overwork guys in Josh last year. unfortunately for him got banged up. He's into physical runner. You have to plan for that so I'm going to Boston College Eh Guy. Aj Dylan Kind of built like a A little bit of Van kind of a guy but just incredibly productive at Boston College. Three straight years of over a thousand yards rushing a big guy But has some elusiveness. Ambition is able to make people miss that you need to maybe play on a lighter weight out when he gets the NFL. The raiders will get that figured out. I think a perfect complementary back to Josh Jacobson. Somebody that should josh. Jacobs Missa Gamer or to a guy. Like J. Diller could step right in and provide adequate production. That's funny that was also my pick their Aj Dylan so. I just wanted to add to that that you know. I think he's the kind of smash mouth guy that we know that Gruden really likes. He's a guy that will go up the middle for these short yard. Carey's he's Really going to be somebody. I think that can help on the third down and with Red Zone conversion. Because I think we're at the raiders had struggled a lot last year was the getting obviously points when they're in the red zone and this is somebody who can really get in there and pick up speed and he's a big physical type of player so I think that he's somebody that may be Would fit nicely in here and we know how Gruden really likes these guys. That are kind of old school runners. And I think h Olympus as is a lot of that miles okay first of all before I go to your pick. We all have to say this. Miles is going to be leaving us for the Carolina Panthers and this is going to be his last show so I will work. I've been struggling with him. Miles it's been a honor to have you as a colleague somebody to work with and to have on the show. I mean this is a really been a pleasure to have the short but fantastic time that we have had together here on Vegas Nation with you and with that miles who is going to be your pick in the fourth. Round for the raiders. Heidi also Thank you very much for the kind words very much. Appreciate it So I also was going to go running back and you know my my gauge on what value is in different places especially this late in the draft is so up in the air but I I. Would I sort of doing things like this? It's like okay. Well who do I think actually would kind of fit in late round? Pick and who knows if he'll be there or not but with that preamble I I would say Joshua Kelly whose ucla running back. And I like what he does from the standpoint of you not can catch the ball as well out of the backfield and I think that that's something if you're going to be running back behind Josh. Jacobs you're gonNA spell them on third downs in certain situations. You have to be able to catch the ball and then looking at some of his highlights some of the film on Him like. I think what he can do is have those soft hands run. The routes out of the backfield and then go and convert things for first downs. And you know he can also run the ball at shotgun. Which is what you're going to do and some of those third down situation so I like his looseness at like that you know he's somebody that I've watched play given the fact that we're on the West Coast and I think that he would fit in with what they need to do. All Right Adam who are you going? These are always tough to project out. Because you just don't know where guys are GonNa go and who's going to be available obviously project out this far but a player that I've been very intrigued by doing a lot of these. Mock drafts. preparations in in looking at things is a guy who has projected all the way from the first round two undrafted which is insane. The level of of your disagreement that a lot of scouts have. And that's Balik Harrison. Formal House. Eighty is a linebacker. The questions really about him in the passing game The film is not good a lot of areas in terms of his coverage ability. So I've seen the ravens rumored to be taking him in the first round. I just don't see that happening. I do think as more teams breakdown film and check them out a little more. I think the they'll not want to invest one of those. You know first second third round pick so I think it's a good chances available in the fourth round. And if the raiders go other places early you know we've I've had projected to take a linebacker in the first but I I am starting to come around on the idea of taking a guy. League Xavier mckinney. If he's available going safety. So if you're still looking linebacker for the raiders at this spot Emily Harrison is there. I think he's a guy you definitely have to look at. I think while there is deficiencies in the passing game. I think I think he can pick it up. I've seen some some signs of promise and against the run. He is a first round talent. No question about it. So that's a guy that if he's on the board there in the fourth round. I think they'd definitely be thinking about all right. Benny let's go into the fifth. Round with the raiders. Picking up one hundred fifty nine spot here. Who Do you take? They're gonNA go with I'm going to help the the defensive line Lawrence what Louisiana State Defensive Tackle Six to three hundred eight pounds a space eater a guy that can occupy some blocks has a little bit of you know upsides. It's more of a democratic. You know. Obviously you're you're you're talking about around you hope you can develop a starter but earliest you would accept Some some solid debt so That's my guy I think. The raiders do need to add a little bit more youth on the defensive line. That get him in the hands of Rod Marinelli's Rashard Lawrence Los or Louisiana State Tackle okay as actually. It's funny you and I are in the same train of thought today. I wasn't picking the same guy but I'm thinking if he's there. I don't know if he'll be there because I think he might go a little sooner than I'm thinking here but I think a nice piece would be Laurel Murchison Defensive Lineman here out of North Carolina State defensive tackle. I think that you know. He has a lot of good things that he could. upgrade with his skill set. That might make him a nice fit. Here with the raiders. But from everything that I've seen with them he's the guy kind of guy the battles through blogs he really goes out. There has good lateral movement. He has a good spin counter to and it's something that when you watch them on tape he kinda never stops moving forward. He never stops charging. I like the way that he keeps trying to disrupt the pocket. He's as somebody that really goes aggressive into what he does. So and I think in a four three he'd be a good fit so that's who I was going with their Are you taking? I go with a cornerback. Additive Notre Dame Troy Pride and I guess you know this is one of my first picks for the offense I think. Excuse me for the defense. I guess I can't afford a couple days ago but I think what he does. Well you know. He's a fast. Kinda guy is another guy that you're going to have to develop them. That's what you would think in the back half of the draft. But I think the the raiders need to build up death in their defensive back position and I think that something that they can do with somebody who's played some big time games at Notre Dame like troy. Pride has so. That's who I would say. Could BE THE RAIDERS. Pick in this position. Okay Adam you sticking with defense offense he actually I would go on. The offense was one of the things one of the areas. That was very very strong for the raiders was the offensive line but I think they need some some infusion of youth in some you know some help the depth there because they are while they are very very good In that in that regard they absolutely need to start thinking about the future. A little bit and I'll Jack Driscoll at Auburn. He's off Guard. He can play a little bit You know we can. We can move possessions a little bit and help you in terms of several different spots. And I think that's pretty valuable to have Do you think he'd be available at this filers right around where he's projected in the fifth round so I think that's a guy that you look at you know he's he's listed as a guard who's played a little tackle. I think some people project it was being able to play tackle and then I think you can shift them all around in those kind of guys pretty valuable to have In no he he really looks like a solid player. Nothing is going to blow you away. A guy could bring in kind of trust to play the absolutes important. By the way I gotTa say I love out pick of Balik Harrison He would fit. Perfectly with the raiders right. Now in between Cory Littleton and net capacity so good job on that. I don't think he's going to be there in the fourth round. But if he is the raiders would be doing cartwheels so that'll do therefore our first mock draft. We've gotten through each round for the raiders and we're going to become in back on Friday to do another revisit of the first round third round. Probably we can get through. We'll see if we can get through the whole thing on Friday but we can't guarantee it based on time we never know what's GonNa Happen But I think we could probably get through it again. Do a two point. Oh look at this positions again re address anything that may be. We skipped over although sadly will have to do it without miles but again I think Adam good opinion of most as the hater aid talking. They're out has a full right next to him. I'm sure he's so. So miles will be on to greener pastures literally. Because there's a lot more green North Carolina than there is in the desert here in Las Vegas but we look over just everything that we've done here and all the picks up when we put it together and start looking at the AFC west. I mean there's something that has been discussed here on the show like just. Obviously the mahomes affect how the raiders are going to be able to keep up with this guy over the course of time. You know. Just how they're going to be able to compete in this division. Obviously I think maybe The fourteen team playoff thing might help out because that's adding a little bit more into the whole Idea bringing more teams into the wildcard spot in that might be a place where a team. That's eight eight or nine and seventeen could get in as we've discussed but when you think about speed miles. This is a tweet that you had sent me earlier in the day. And we're kind of talking about it before the show the AFC west. These guys are going to need more speed. And and then in the draft at going to need more speed. What are your thoughts on? How the raiders stack up against that angle in that competition and the US and that side of the ball. Yeah I think it's Daniel Jeremiah. Tweeted that You know a lot of teams are going to have to think about how they can compete with Kansas City. Baltimore mean especially if you are in the AFC. Those are two teams. That are not going away anytime soon. Based on the youth of their quarterbacks and the skill players that those guys have around them. So if you are the Raiders. You have to be able to compete with that. And I think that's something that goes to not just the offensive side where you obviously need to get more explosive with more explosive wide receiver that I think at least at this point. We all expect that the raiders will take number twelve overall or but the also ESA do with defense. How do you combat all of those guys tyreek Hill Sammy Watkins Travis Kelsey all those guys? They're bringing back and then they're going to be able to draft some more guys and you have to think that man they're going to get some more speedy explosive players based on the way can skim things up so. I think the fact that the raiders have signed. Somebody like Cory Littleton. That really helps. Because he can go sideline sideline Nick Wykowski. I think he's going to be an upgrade at linebacker as well and then of course threats can continue to add players through the draft. But yeah it's going to be very important. Especially because the raiders play the Kansas City chiefs two times in the year that they get really explosive players that can stop. Kansas City's explosive players. Vinny you actually did a thing about the three prospects that wide receivers that the raiders could look at in the first round and based on what miles is saying. How much would you say that a guy like rugs kind of boost his draft stock when you think about speed and how much somebody like him could help out? I major judy's fast as well but I think rugs right now is holding the record on on speediness when you look at combine time so How do you feel like these three guys fit when you look at that kind of aspect of how these guys could build or all? Three of them represent an upgrade of over. What the Raiders. Have Master's doubt about it You know rugs speed Jumped out after four point to the forty at a combine. He was electric at an Alabama when the ball garden his hands. The only had forty receptions last year though. So that's kind of got to think about that a little bit Cd-rom is another Dynamic playmaker with the ball is in. His hands is tough. Go get the ball. But Mike is Jerry. Judy and I just feel like you know people are sleeping. On on Jerry Juliana. Think Raider fans in particular. 'cause they they hear the comparisons to Amari Cooper. They're two different people two different personalities. They're two different Players there are some similarities. But you know just because you had had some problems with the former Alabama wide receiver that profiles somewhat similarly to y to Jerry. Judy that's not the reason why you don't draft the most polished. Nfl Most Polish wide receiver prospect in the draft. He can do everything you go back. Twenty eighteen when he averaged nineteen point three yards per catch on over seventy ashes. He can beat you in every single way. You deploy him wherever you want a in an offense out wide in the slot wherever you put the ball in his hands on jet sweeps. He's plenty fast enough men. The guy runs a four four Incredible route rutter. Incredible body control elusiveness. How he can attack defenses? Understanding is position also defensive cartridges. So I don't even think it's really that close I think. Jerry duty is the premier wide receiver in this draft. And that's saying a lot because CD LAMB. And then Henry Rugs are pretty good too but if it came down to Jerry Judy any rights. It's not even a question for me. It's Jerry Judy's Adam. An terms of speed and just thinking about where the raiders need to get faster to be able to compete with the big old bad chiefs at the top of the division. What do you think that it is that they need to be able to make themselves contender in the AFC? Bomb injuries with the chiefs. I think would be the first nice some of those guys off the field but no I think every team knows how important speed is in the modern NFL. I mean if you look around and you look at a team like the chiefs. And they've got a quarterback. I can sing it all over the field. But they've just got guys that are fast everywhere that you just run and run and you know that is such a dangerous weapon is what you can't teach and it's a cliche but it's just it's so true. How important speed is It's especially you need speed on defense in this division to compete with the likes of the chief. There's no question about that so I think every team looks around and they say. How can we get faster better? But how can we get faster more speed on the field speech that can actually play at this level unless most important thing to try to you know to try to especially this dimension trying to compete with the chiefs and Just hearing vinnie. Talk about Jerry. Judy who obviously have been talking about. And I love him so much. I feel I feel bad on apologize for miles and his last show that I just randomly text him Jerry Judy clips in the middle of the night. Which is very creepy. But it's tough not because miles and I are CD. Lamb people is. That is that right is that just. I think the other night I was like. Oh man this is such impressive of and I think for me with CD lamb. The whole idea is just that. Cd Lamb. I think one will be there as opposed to judy at twelve and two. I think that's the way that he is bill in the intangibles like I think miles and I have both talked about this like the way that he's able to to make catches to be that kind of playmaker with these things. You can't teach contorted the body into certain ways in directions. It's just something that I find to be a trait. That can help the raiders immensely not to take anything away from the other guys. But that's well a lot of my think aloud texting you Jerry Judy clips to. Yeah Heck. Yeah. There's this notion that he goes up and gets the ball per hurt. I. He's he's he's there's a reason why you see more of those type of plays from a CD. Lamb judge. Judy. Just get more open He makes guys look silly defensive backs and he will do that in the NFL He's GonNa he's GonNa Torment Coverages. And you know sorry to go on a on a rant here But he'd seen and and and defeated every type of cartridge. I mean you try to put look at some of the tape of him against pressman coverage. It's just he's made guys look silly and a guy like CD lamb taking nothing away from he's going to be a tremendous pro as well but in the big twelve. They don't play that kind of defense so he had much more rooms To Rub even Henry Ryan's when when you did press up on 'em team variable to negate him because he just didn't have the understanding of the position and ways to to beat that type of card coverage You know that that that Jerry Judy did so. I'm with Adam. I'm just he. I watched that tape. And it's his mesmerizing watching him. When you know that position what is needed. What's important about about playing that position? He's just it's IT'S TEXTBOOK. It's just e could write a book on how to beat coverages and it's pretty cool to watch. Let me ask you this. Do you think that it would be worth it? To TRADE UP FOR JERRY. Judy if you why while you're GonNa you know so. I mean the reason I ask is that because they might right. I think from the a couple of different standpoints. The jets are right ahead of them. And if the jets have really targeted Jerry Judy than you might have to jump at least jump the jets and get up to ten with the browns and then maybe the browns really. I mean let. Let's for plan hypotheticals in. What if the Brown say okay? Let's take Jerry Judy. And then we ship off Odell Beckham Junior to somebody else. Is it worth than trying to say? All right let's go up a couple of spots because this is the guy that we think is going to make are often sandwich more dynamic. It's going to be hard to do. I wouldn't give up the nineteenth thick. Obviously I would I would. It would have to be you know a third and maybe something else but without a second round pick it's GonNa be harbored do But I'm not I'm not using the nineteenth deck yeah I. I don't think as much as I like Judy. I don't think the the difference between Judy. Lamb is great enough to have to do that. I mean I think he's a guy that you absolutely don't miss out on But you look at the way. The draft plays out in. Cleveland has to tackle but I mean I understand your your scenario there That you know. What if you're looking at the board and maybe maybe one goes really early? Somebody surprises US and jumps up and grabs a receiver and then all of a sudden. You're looking at it saying while we had three on the board there might only be two of the board now. Maybe you're not as high on drugs as everyone else's and you need one of the two that I maybe you do it but I think I think the other. Cd-rom is good enough consolation prize. I wouldn't give up what I wouldn't give them a whole lot to move. Yeah so I mean Adam. You're the Kinda we're giving out that idea and it makes a ton of sense because you need somebody out in the jets. They you know Sam Darnold get the ball to that. They're going to be looking for a wide receiver. Right there in the right ahead of the raiders so it makes a ton of sense that they would look at. You know a jury duty and that's a lot of the reason why I'm leaning. Cd LAMB as well. It's You know something. I just think that he's just not going to be there so yeah. I don't know I don't know who would trade up a cow. You would like Vinnie. You're saying what the pigs like how you would manage that. But that's a great question. Miles of these are reasons. Why WE'RE GONNA MISS? You here on the Vegas Nation PODCASTS. At wrap things up though is gonNA take Do they have a lot of needs? And cornerback among them so not sure that that's the direction that they're going to go in although I wouldn't be surprised if that if that is where they went. Yeah I mean because we're talking about it look I it's either. You're going to draft for need or you're going to say you know this guy once we once we get it you know once we get him he's going to be able to transform our offense so much that he's worth it because he's that talented now. I guess it really depends on how people have things graded on their draft board right so and with You know if I'm the if I'm the jets knowing that I have so many other needs You know maybe I dial back up to water see Rattus at another part of the draft because it is such a said the other day the depth so good at opposition that maybe somebody will be there. That obviously isn't Jerry. Judy a can really help my team in the second round. Meanwhile I can get one of the premier quarterbacks or whatever position I identified defensively that I'm going to need I. We're debt without eleventh. Pick all right so let's go ahead and take a look then if we had to just really quick as we wrap things up Look at where we think. The raiders could land. Do we think that they're going to be a winning record. Type team next year If they have everything in place are they going to be second in the AFC West third in the AFC was What do you think of any while they were pretty much the second place team in the in in the AFC west last year they tied with the Denver Broncos record wise Saturnine without any kind of defense no wide receiver one You know injuries a lot of injuries on the on the on the defensive line. They lost a bunch of players of defensively at in Jonathan Abram all year and they still finished seven nine which you give a lot of credit to Jon Gruden for keeping that together as long as he did but I think with the help that they've gotten defensively the help that we expect them to get in one form or another not wide receiver in the draft at one of her other defensive felt that they can get in the draft. I think this is a this team can can win nine games And and be the decisive second place team in the AFC west end possibly pushed for a position. Where do you think that they land here miles? Well it's so hard to say especially because they're not going to have an off season program like I think that the raiders should be able to compete for one of a wild card spots. I really think that they should be in the conversation of being l nine and seven tenants six. I think even eight is going to be able to potentially get into one of those three wildcard spots now so especially now that you're in John Gruden's third year as a head coach. You have to be able to take the next step in. We understand who we are. We understand how we need to win how to win. And you know we can play to our strengths and with that in a can't keep going out in like land stinkers and and going you know to New York and play in the jets in losing thirty four three a win. It's a critical point in the season. That can't happen anymore if you really want to compete. I think that they should be ready to be able to take that step. But that's the step that they just weren't ready to make last year And so you know when you have these critical points in the season. It's how do you go out compete and win? If the raiders continue to build as they have built if they get another solid rookie class in the one that they had last year then they should be able to go nine seven ten six and compete for one of those wild card spots. But I think it's GonNa be tough for them just frankly to compete with Kansas City. Given the fact that a there aren't GonNa be mini. Oh you know there's not going to be much of any of an offseason program in Kansas. City's returning pretty much everybody that they had From that Super Bowl winning team they're gonNA know exactly what they need to do to be successful and they can probably go out and do it. But the raiders should be able to take another step forward in compete adequately assess. These things Vinnie have made kind of their outlook on the raiders season where they may land here. The what miles is talking about in the fact that there is going to be such limited offseason work with a lot of these teams. It's going to be really really interesting to see. How a lot of these franchises react to having a such a unique setting in the off season and I feel like it's going to really create a lot of additional parody. I mean we already have parody in the NFL. I think it's going to be a highlighted even more by these unique circumstances when you look at the US. I don't think there's any question that the chief the favorite I think. Even you know players on the raiders. Even the the love the personnel would acknowledge like. Hey the teeth are the team to beat. They're the best team in the division. Then you look around Broncos. I don't think are going to be a whole lot. Better for about the same. Where they were. They might be in eighteen Maybe take take a quick. You know one game forward but I do. I don't think anybody here surprised that I think the chargers are probably going to be the secretary in the provision. The chargers are loaded everywhere. And you know whether it's you know Herbert's or maybe to the way. The dolphins are starting indicate. Maybe they want harbored. But I think that's a a smokescreen that that could potentially play. But tyrod Taylor is GonNa be the guy at the beginning of the season. He's a guy that almost perfect for that team. Great Defense don't turn the ball over make plays when they're they're what rivers could do last year because he just focusing on throwing the ball as far as he could. Some reason I I think that team is going to make a big improvement. Regardless of WHO's taking snaps with them so I think that's a that's a hurdle overcome in the division and I think there's GonNa be a whole lot of teams that are between seven and nine and nine seven fighting for that extra wildcards awesome. This is great stuff guys always because like everyone saying here. I mean the big thing about this entire season that we can't put a finger on yet that we can't even figure into the future is how this offseason is going to work out until we can really answer. Those questions is no saying or telling what's going to happen with all of these guys that they draft. What's going to happen with the way that they're able to conduct a normal training camp if you will or even get into just some regular O. T. as or anything like that over Internet. I mean there's no way is an part of I think makes training camp. Great is when they're able to put on the pads and really assess what's happening with different players it's a different speed different mindset once those pads are on. Man. It's GonNa be interesting to see how everything plays out without Just the regular day to day kind of schedule that we're used to in the NFL season and with these teams and players especially with teams in new coaches. That's going to be. I think a real challenge for those teams but we will continue to bring you every day updated information on all things. Going on with the raiders. And we're going to get into some more of the greetings of more mock drafts as we progress throughout the NFL draft. A leading up to it. Excuse me as we will be here up till April twenty third doing daily shows for you on the Vegas Nation podcast so make sure to download the VEGAS NATION APP GO TO VEGAS NATION DOT COM and follow us on Social Media at Vegas Nation. 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Las Vegas Raiders become official, Senior Bowl Draft Prospects

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Las Vegas Raiders become official, Senior Bowl Draft Prospects

"This episode of Vegas Nation is brought to you by. Sdn Sports from station. Casinos as T- In sports is the sports betting APP. You need this season. Sign up today A and get a new sign up bonus of fifty dollars. I like I said to Bring the right kind of people in here. We think that can Dole Championship. Football team has the most loyal fans in the world. And I know it hurts that we might not be the Oakland raiders forever ever but we are still awaiting action. I think it's going to be a get an army coming into Las Vegas for today in January. Twenty second twenty twenty we are now the Las Vegas Raiders. I love going to the Aces Games. I love going to the night's games I look at them as our brothers and sisters and bringing professional sports two of Atta and just the future looks bright for all of us. We had some great memories in Oakland Wish we could have brought that city championship but looks like we're going to have to do it here man because this this This welcome was this was special. I think for our own special for our team Special for the guys. We're here to stay now claim here. the reception that we got was overwhelming really. What's up everybody? It's time for another episode of the Vegas Nation. podcast or we cover all things. What's happening here with now? Lost Vegas Raiders. As her there in the open that was sound from Mark Davis and Derek Carr who were out here on Wednesday making that announcement formal normal and so we will talk about all of those things happening here in Las Vegas Vegas nation is brought to you by. Sdn Sports Mobile by station casinos. And I'm here. Heidi Fang your host along with vinny bone senior. Who is our raiders? Beat writer and a little bit later on. We're also going to bring an atom hill so he can clear the air on some of these rumors about Tom. Brady possibly becoming a part of this raiders. Team he had some Discussion with Dana White. That's got a lot of response from people so he's going to try. had a clear the air there as I said there in the open. The Las Vegas Raiders. Vinnie it's official. It happened here yesterday in Las Vegas and current and former stars were here for the announcement announcement at allegiance. Stadium along with the raiders. Brass and I tell you it's been a crazy week here in town with announcements and we're GonNa get to all of that but you're out in Alabama where the senior double set to take place and you're locked in right now on that scene. I mean this is pretty big because it's been used historically as a scouting area for a lot of teams and you're writing about all types of different players a lot of people that are raising some eyebrows out there like just in her What else have you seen gene? And what are you doing out there right now. I believe what is day. Three of all the sessions that are happening out there it is day three And it was azad red zone. Third down offense at their down defense. A two minute drill Today was a really highly competitive day when you start getting around the goal line and And it's offense. Defense one on one competitions between copying cornerback and wide receivers linebackers tight ends. It gets a against pretty passionate and emotional and competitive and that's the fun time of these types of practices cassava players were loving it They just being able to to to win battles. You're losing battles you got. NFL Scouts and coaches from every team lined up on the sidelines watching you. Whether whether you're doing good or bad really brings out. The best in a lot of guys was a fun day today case a quarterback Justin Herbert from Oregon. What do you make him? And what you've seen I like him He has a natural Decisive throwing motion. I mean he puts the ball where it needs to be He leads wide wide. Receivers to open You know in college you know you you sometimes get pretty big Windows to throw into. That's not going to be the case in the NFL and the windows are are are closing. Even you know Are Beginning to close. You know when you're when you're playing against some of the best seniors in the country. These quarterbacks are here in mobile so being able able to lead guys To Open ground or put it through into tight windows is is is. NFL Scouts are looking for and he's definitely done that But I also really liked Jordan love from Utah State. He kind of had a not a shaky day but but you know seemed a little off Day One especially and later on her practice but he kind of absolute show yesterday making all the throws showing an ability to make things happen with his legs and his arms You know you hear some comparisons To To Patrick Mahomes. I mean you know it's GonNa be a long time before we find the next Patrick ever But he does definitely am talking about Jordan. Murphy does have some of that skill set. He's got the legs. He's got a little bit a gunslinger counseling random. Sometimes that hurts him. It hurt him a little bit in college. You through seventeen interceptions this year. Part of that was he lost pretty much entire offense from two thousand eighteen. The two thousand nineteen felt he was kind of doing too much or trying to do too much But but he's settled right in here at the senior bowl and put really help themselves South I think it was just a lot of talent here but definitely the quarterback so the first thing you talked about the first thing you watch because it all starts with the quarterback and I think Justin Jordan a certainly Help themselves this week. Somebody else I know that you wrote about that. I think has been sort of emerging star and has twenty nine thousand nine season for Arizona State. He's Reno we know native. He's fast maybe I don't know if he's tyreek hill fast but he has breakaway ability. He's definitely a playmaker and that's Brandon What have you seen out of him? Even though he's just kind of been like they're not really out and about you know engaging with these guys. I believe injury that it's going to prevent him from actually playing in the senior bowl. So have you been able to see anything out of him at all You got a chance to talk to got chance to visit with them A really impressive kid. And you're right. He's not he's not practicing There is a Believe it was a shoulder I I wrote about it and I just forgot For for momentarily forgot. Exactly what the injury wise but It's nothing serious. He told me that He should be ready for the combine and then also has his pro day. That's coming up and really with with brand and just put the fell on And watch pretty date at Arizona. State is a guy who averaged eighteen point three yards per catch watch so he's a playmaker Just waiting to happen. And obviously the raiders You know that's that's what they need. I talked to Mike Mayock this week. The general manager sure and he flat out said you know For this offense to take another step to move to another level. They need to fix their wide receiver. One position position and just add some athletic ability and explosiveness on the perimeter. And he's granted certainly a guy that provides that but I wouldn't you know where where the raiders are picking in the first round. I think it would be a a reach for Brandon to me is more of a late first round probably a day to kind of guy a But we're going to see the big ones coming up at this county combine. You know the the The wide receivers that I think are going to be under real consideration consideration With number twelve and number nineteen But you know especially here at the senior bowl you see guys that are probably GonNa go on day two you. Yeah there's definitely some first rounders among this group there's no doubt about it but a lot of these guys are GonNa be second third round picks fourth round picks and again talking to Mike. May that's how you build your team. Everyone's so focused on the first round and rightfully so Those are the big tickets of the guys that that that aspect the most notice of. But when you're talking about building the team you gotta hit on Second Third Fourth Fifth Sixth Seventh Round Picks Free agents. You know undrafted free agents in these are the type of You know events uh-huh where you get to see guys. Actually play tackled to the ground not necessarily practice. That will happen on Saturday but you're seeing. NFL like practices this week. And that's kind of how they structure it so that it's going to replicate exactly or pretty much exactly what they're gonNA see the NFL in and you have. Scouts are able to to to watch. These guys is with pads on with helmets on competing against the best players in the country in that setting Again like today was a really competitive situation. When you're talking about you know? Oh getting down to the goal line and you've got ten yards to work with and you're trying to keep the other guy out of the end zone and the other guy is trying to get in the end zone It gets pretty fiery and trust me. NFL L. Scouts like to see that. When you're talking about Ashen and competitiveness trade number one that guys want to see I mean you could have all the physical attributes that you wants to be the fastest guy on the field? You can throw the ball. The law against You can hit the hardest but if you're not willing to compete and if you don't have a passion for the game itself Oh forget it you're going to be in and out of the League is there's other guys that are going to match all those things And then also bring it at the highest levels. That's one of the things that that teams really WanNa WanNa see and you get to see that in players in in in the settings that they've set up over the weekend Mobile Alabama. Some of the needs that we know the raiders have yet to address. SOB linebacker. Definitely you talked about wide receiver. A cornerback or defensive. Back baby another position that they look at when it comes time for the NFL draft and again and they have five picks in the top ninety. So we're looking at possibility of maybe even trading some picks up or out and waiting 'til later rounds where people. There's all kinds of things the raiders. I have a lot of negotiating pieces that they can play with two guys that they want on this team But when you assess the linebackers because you also wrote about that like I said Vinnie's been in locked in on the senior bowl everybody Francis Bernard Terrell Lewis at Alabama. You know You also wrote today about Notre Dame cornerback so who of those guys. I mean you look at this. The defensive spectrum have most impressed you so far and may be somebody that could be a candidate for this raiders. Defense You know and and because the raiders to me. The Rangers need need an overhaul At linebacker they don't need one. They need they'd really need to to pretty much watch. Replace all all three positions and maybe some depth guys as well So so that's the interesting thing is that you know it would the one thing. Hey they need a middle linebacker. Okay you can really lock in on the middle linebackers. But they need outside guys they need you know Sam linebackers weakside linebackers. They need the hall. Gamut and that's why this was so cool to be able to look at the various you know Physicians and specific linebacker positions. And I think it does some guys here that that could re envision being on the raiders and making an impact and not necessarily I guys either. I think that again what we're going to see the first around the the twelfth nineteen guys at the combine. We'll talk about those guys. A y'all in future podcasts. But specific to this week you know a guy that really jumped off the field to me was Zach on. He's from Wisconsin. Played mostly off. The edge of Wisconsin has an interesting back story which it was actually very unique to Wisconsin players use a former high school quarterback? Wisconsin is known for that day they look at guys out of high school school and size them up athletically and their build and then say our care what you played in high school. We're GONNA make you this or we're GonNa make you that there's alignment from the Rams David Edwards who is school quarterback. Now he's a rams starting offensive guard. He got moved at tight end and then moved to offensive tackle. Wisconsin put on weight. They built built them out You know and now he's NFL offensive. Lineman was bond was a high school quarterback they they they red-shirted them and And got them bigger. Eggert got the body right and he played off the edge primarily at Wisconsin Had A lot of saxe tackles for loss was really productive in that role but he's probably going to move more to an inside position in the NFL he kinda profiles a little. Bit like Anthony Barr from the from. Ucla who's now with the the Vikings and outside guy in college moved to to live back to inside linebacker where he rushed the passer and stop the run he could also drop back in pass coverage urge and bond has showed all of that. This week is shown the ability to get off the edge when you when you use them in that role but also a guy that can play off the ball drop back in coverage averages up enough to stay with tight ends and some running backs And believe me. That's what the Rangers need. They need guys. That aren't just GonNa play the run or aren't just going rush the passer There guys that can that can drop back in coverage and stay with tight ends a stay with running backs because that's what teens killed them with last year. Those game against the Tennessee titans in that blowout loss where Ryan Tannehill completed one hundred percent of his passes that he threw two guys that were defended by linebackers offers honor present. That's not good so and that was pretty much a recurring theme throughout the season. Their teams are just feasting on that inability of the raiders and just killing them with underneath passes where tight ends and running backs were just destroying linebackers. Need to get that fixed and a guy like Zach. Bon Is is definitely somebody that could do that. France has been argue. You mentioned Emmys a former safety and quarterback in high school went to Byu They you know grew him out to a linebacker ended up transferring to Utah which he told me. That was the craziest thing. He's ever done his dad is Byu Fan and he didn't talk to him almost like a year. We are because of the because of the blue he was killing a little bit His Dad's allows him and supported by Utah but to the point where his dad was wearing. Utah sweatpants and that'd be wide use shirt. He's like Dad. You can't do that but I have to. Byu Fan even though you're Utah. But anyway he's a guy that You know was a high school. CORNERBACK and safety the guy that can play in pass coverage but has also big and stout enough to play also you know to also play against the run. He's an inside linebacker. He's a guy that would fit in the in the raiders for three scheme. So plenty of candidates out here that you can envision and you can see the raiders potentially drafting And using to fill out that defense. There's a lot of holes on that defense they fill out and the fact that you're comparing bond to anthony bars huge because I mean Anthony Barr has been in the NFL. Oh for just six years are six seasons rather and is been a four time pro bowler in this guy man. He's pretty pretty quickly as a lot of speedy. Look you said you know. He's one of those guys is it just gets to assignments makes things happen. So you know forced fumbles all over the place that I recall so somebody that I think is a high bar and in my expectations are very high. Now Mr Bond. Well Yeah. He's heard he's heard the The comparisons and of course he welcomes it anti is a little bit. It beggar But the athletic ability A Zach really stands out so he's not quite as big as as Anthony Barr at the gap is a good six five He's he's pretty tall So you know he's not quite that size But he moves around really well and he's he's a real competitor in Wisconsin is really no now for for producing a big time. NFL linebackers and I think is going to be the next in line all right so Vinnie. Las Vegas here. They announced that during the NFL draft happening in this town. April twenty third through the twenty fifth. That all the draft prospects are going to arrive on boats stew a red carpet and then all their interviews and all and then go back on a boat that will then get set them out to an area where cars will be lined up for them. That will drive them. The Caesar's Forum where the main stage Roger Goodell will be now in this scenario in your years of covering the NFL. Do you imagine but one of these draft picks is GonNa get on the one of those boats and jump into the water at the blasios fountains. Well I feeling that they are live at the. NFL is going to say hates them now. Remember you're no longer in college. This is professional. Even if we have and we control your paychecks we can find you and that's fine you don't pay the fine line literally comes out of your paycheck. They have that they have that kind of control. And I can imagine that they're already gonNA start. You know they're gonNA THEY'RE GONNA warn these guys who might be you know just crazy enough to think about actually doing something like that. which by the way it's still I mean I'm not I haven't moved in Nevada Nevada yet but I'm kind of assuming that in February it's still probably a little chill? I mean April. It's still probably a little bit. Joey I dunno you guys get better Better than I can but I. I would think that a lot of these guys would be kind of petrified about jumping into. What's probably some really cold water? But there's probably one or two that actually might be thinking about it so if I'm the NFL. I'm sitting them down saying don't not even think about it because you will see a suspension and are a big chunk of your first check being sent to Park Avenue in New York. That's no fun but Sunday just to give you kind of gauge on the weather Sunday here. And it's going to be seventy degrees in Las Vegas. So that gives you any kind of indication. What would it might be an April? We're probably looking eighties. Yeah so in these rendering the NFL Pajau and they presented this whole draft happening in Vegas and all of the locations. They put out the main stage on the main stage picture. They had Derek Carr now. I thought that was a nice gesture especially he said that also so in the announcement that happened on Wednesday that he appreciated that because as a second rounder he never got his face. Put up on anything. Because it wasn't televise. Why is real big show kind of thing when he was the second round draft pick their In the year that he was drafted so actually talked to Adam Hill about that. Ah find out his big on if that's Indian indication how much the raiders are going to stick behind their car as the face of their team and being the quarterback back as they come to Las Vegas because Adam has been putting out some things that he had this discussion with Dana White. That Tom Brady was possibly shaking hands with Mark Davis meaning. That is like they had some sort of conversation and the lead them to believe that Tom Brady could in fact really be coming mean to Las Vegas. So He's been taking a lot of heat for what do you think about that. And that notion. Well I think Eight Tom Brady's GonNa talk to a a lot of different teams You know somehow some way easier superior this way. 'cause I don't WanNa get him in trouble. I don't think he's GonNA blatantly talking to a lot of teams rules regulates all that. Sp down at a proper time. But I think he's going to evaluate a lot of different teams at rightfully. So I don't think there's a full guarantee that he's coming back to New England. I would think that he wants to come back to New England. But you know you've got a coach in in and Bill Belichick who you know. isn't afraid to just move on for a player. Even one is good as Tom Brady. Now I think the owner might I have A little bit to say about that. And ultimately he signs everybody's paychecks in that organization. So I think that he wants them to remain in New England England owners kind of those those types of things. But here's you can't rule anything out at this point And anything meaning Tom. Tom Brady could actually leave the patriots as a free agent. Do I think he's going to go into the writers now. I don't think he's GonNa go to the Rangers or I think he's you would think about them. Yeah but and a AH being realistic about the raiders You know they're not there yet. You know they they still have a roster to really address defensively specifically the Talking to Mike Mayock He blatantly said and frankly said In all honesty there's a lot of holes that they need to sell on defense. They they feel like they have a good foundation with Max. Crosby and Cleveland Sarah L. and barrel and Trayvon Mullen who came on strong through the the end of last year. Jonathan Abram they believe is going to be the equivalent of another first job pick next year because he really didn't play last year for them as their third third first round back back so they have the makings or the foundation of a good defense. But there's there's significant holes to fill and if I'm Tom Brady I mean what. What's the one thing that I need to have when I'm forty two years old if I'm thinking about moving team I want a team? That's on the verge of making the playoffs. That's a legitimate playoff contender. That has the talent across the board to enhance you. Know that that reality And the raiders right now. I don't think they're really in that position. They can definitely make a huge jump this year with another great draft and another strong off season and free agency but is. Is that enough to put them where Tom Brady. needs them to be if he's seriously considering leaving the Patriots. I don't think he has I. Think for the raiders standpoint point they're going to be fine with ticket sales so that should never even come in the consideration. They've sold out there. ESL's they're going to be selling out their games. at at at their new stadium in Las Vegas every decision that they make moving forward from. Now you know Until they get this thing turned around around is how do we make this football team better. Not just for today but for the long right rains and I don't think Tom Brady I don't think his window. Lines up with the raiders. There's window or their vision but you're probably going to hear you know rumors about about all that and that's fine From Tom Brady's perspective. If it makes wayland up the annual a little bit more great for him but I just don't see 'em sober black eye. Let's hear from Adam Hill. Who who defends himself here on the biggest nation podcast as he discusses what he heard from Dana White during the UFC event? That just happened here this past weekend in Las Vegas in regards parts to we have some kind of rumors going around here with Tom. Brady in Las Vegas. Hey guys I mean. Know whether the raiders go a new blood or somebody who can sell tickets right away just based on name recognition. Tom Brady could be that guy. I mean we did so you Derek Carr here in Las Vegas out with Mark Davis and the rest of the crew when they officially announce themselves as Las Vegas Raiders. But Adam I want to get your insight. Hi We're here right now with Adam Hill. who was able to speak with Dana White after the UFC two forty-six press conference on? It's important that we stress that it was after. I think a lot of people seem to think that you're you're taking a quote out of context that happened during the press conference. Adam breakdown what happened in your conversation with Dana White so I mean first of all I want to say to everybody buddy in New England who I am public enemy number one right now Maybe look closer at what was said. I didn't report anything. I had a lot of people because this got picked up in new New England very strongly. A lot of people saying you're wrong when he doesn't go to the raiders. I'm going to call you out and you'd better jobs if I am not reporting the Tom Brady. Is going to the raiders in fact if you ask me my opinion I don't think he is going to the raiders. That's not what any of this was a lot of people also commenting about using Dana white as an NFL source. I get an I agree with you a lot. There's a lot to this. But here's the thing first of all. I was not citing Dana White as an NFL source in that way I was actually talking to Dana White as close friend. Tom Brady for those. That don't know they have a very long standing relationship. There are good friends there visiting with each other on Saturday night here in Las Vegas. Tom Brady was a guest of the also. Very high ranking UFC executive who is basically basically one of the top three or four people in the whole organization and has been for. Several years is a relative of Tom. Brady pretty close relative. That's how the relationship chip got started. So that's that's just the groundwork here of like this. This is why there is a relationship between Patriots Fan away and Tom Brady. Who are very close friends? Talk Very often and we're hanging out on Saturday night so no reporting. It's just this opinion and you're right somebody. We asked early in the press conference on Saturday about Tom. Brady being there and speaking with both Dana White and Mark Davis. The owner of the raiders. Data whites response was. Does the follow up to that question. Hand Tom Brady was here. It was what did he think of the fights or something along. Those lines and Dana said. Well I'm surprised that's the the way you ask this question. But he enjoyed it. Of course it was a great fight so I immediately went up and waited for Dana to be done with this press conference so that I could talk to him about Tom Brady in what he had to say. Just before Dana left the stage he followed up and said. Oh by the way on that. Tom Brady thing Tom. Brady's coming to the raiders. I I am you know. It just makes too much sense and he goes but what do I know. I'm just saying things up here now. I was annoyed that he did that because I was waiting to talk to them on my own about it but a lot of people taking that part of the press conference and saying. Oh that's what you wrote about. No not true. I waited outside for Dana. We had about a five minute conversation outside and I basically speaking to him about why he thinks that. What did Tom Brady say is this? Is this something that he believes. Tom Brady told him and I will. We'll tell you that from my conversation away. What I took was that he absolutely had a conversation? Tom Brady about it. It wasn't just him speculating. There were small details from the conversation that led me to believe it was. It was coming from Tom Brady including the fact that he what he said was. He believes that he is going to come to the west coast. Tom Brady would prefer to the west coast if he's not going to be a New England and that a couple of teams made sense to Tom. Uh including the raiders being the most likely but they also have to you know they all have a quarterback in place. We already know that there is issues we worked out there. The chargers already a quarterback kind end of two but everybody thinks that Philip rivers on the way out so those made sense they also said the Broncos made sense but they have some guy that they seem to like. So it's probably not gonNA work out that obviously a reference to drew lock so so yes this this was. These are things that are leading. They're actually wants conversations that were had. This is not not reporting. This is not. Hey this is happening. This is just close friend. Tom Brady who is hanging out with that night. Then saying hey like this seems like a place I would make a lot of sense. That's all that really was going on there and like I said I have reasonably based on that conversation that they did talk about it. Dana White is a patriots atriums Fan. They Tom Brady friend and also a suite holder here in Las Vegas. He also did talk to mark Davis at night. Jon Gruden was in attendance as well so as Max crosby Marcel. reece couple of other raiders and former raiders. So kind of cool to see like all the other Las Vegas guys hanging out here in Las Vegas but yeah that's really all there was to it that conversations had and that they don't wait believes that there is a good possibility if Tom Brady leaves. And that still is still to be determined. But it does seem like there are some indications that he's GonNa at least explore free agency that the raiders will be a logical fit in that there's been discussions about it. That's all now. Here's something that I asked both miles Venus. I I WANNA get your take on it to do you feel like it. Increases Their cars probability that he plays for this team as the face of the team being that they've put his majorie on the NFL drafts main stage with the NFL Things that came out with the raiders and as well as bringing him out here this week to have him on stage when they announced the team as the LAS considers almost got the sense that he asked for that. I don't think the I'm Kinda joking about that. But yeah I mean no I think what it it tells you that. He's the quarterback right now and that they don't WanNa make any waves. I think there was a conscious decision of. Hey who should we put on here if anybody but car. There's going to be speculation. Oh that means you're moving on from car. They didn't want to do that like why. Why do something like that and just opened the door? Even if there's nothing to it why even why even think about opening the door. You just know the guy. That's the quarterback. That's been the quarterback for several years that still is under contract like just put them on there and then it avoids anybody asking questions. It's very easy to move on from that guy. I mean the Golden Knights. We know a couple of posters of guys placed in city national arena last obscene. And they weren't what the team when the season started so You know those things don't really matter matter the other way you don't want to drum up a bunch of craziness of like speculation just by putting some other guys picture on there all right well for Derek Carr. He was happy about it because as a second round pick back when he was drafted in two thousand fourteen eighteen he did not get his face plastered on anything or any stage because it wasn't that a time for a second round draft picks nor is it now so all right out of moby appreciate the update. Again everybody you can find them on twitter at Adam Hill L.. VR Jane follow along with all his speculative New England. That's threatening me with death. Do that please on my twitter. Thank you for coming in to clear the air with us. Appreciate it or That was Adam Hill. And he has again received a lot of flack for this discussion that he had with Dana. Why I would? He put out on twitter following that an article that he wrote about the possibility at Tom. Brady playing here in Las Vegas. which would mean Derek? Carr would be seeing the door and his backside. But we don't know if that is going to happen yet but I think Derek cars somebody that comes in with a lot of fire the way he said. Hey my face was at least based on the main stage of the rendering and it wasn't when I was drafted in two thousand fourteen It said something to me that he's still kind of carries that chip on his shoulder and he plays with that chip on the shoulder. And and sometimes that's a good thing. Sometimes you know the chip on the shoulder can eat you up if things. Well dwell too much but I think Derek Carr you know. He's he's somebody that could be. The future of the raiders. Did bring him out here. They did have him with their announcement about the team. Becoming officially the Las Vegas Raiders Vinnie I I understand that you have some insight on this story as well. What can you tell us about? Derek Carr well you know and and I think that that's a clear sign You know it is part of all that Kinda where he stands you. Know with the raiders. And I know You know I I. I did a sit down with Mike. Mayock you know in in and he essentially told me that they're gonNA evaluate all positions and if they feel like they can make improvements at a particular position. They're going to do it if they don't they won't and that includes quarterback So he is very clear. You know that You know that that quarterback is is under The evaluation process and I said to him. I said you know You do understand. Of course you know what that means when fans or anyone really reads that Derek Carr included that it that it's that it's you know can be interpreted as a non vote of confidence for for Derek Carr And you know he basically not so many words that I don't care you know I. I've not worried right about that. You know we're in a Darwinian Darwinian. Is that how you pronounce that word The DARWINISM Darwinian. I would get. We're in a Darwinian world and football And if we get better we're getting better at every position now he did also complement. Derek Carr You you know talking about the strides that he took In in in your to Jon Gruden through for completed more than seventy percent of his passes through for over four thousand yards You know is able to deal with Jon Gruden All the all the dynamics of that includes as Mike said that puts. It's been a small group of people Because it's tough playing for Jon Gruden as a quarterback specifically as a quarterback and and Derek Carr is able to and so oh that's counts or something that stands something. I think that you know they. They did appreciate the strides that he took This year and I also think that they understand that you know they didn't surround him with You know the I'll I'll complimentary team and we all know what that means means that the wide receiver position that I'm Tony O'Brien was supposed to fill never got filled And as a result there was a glaring lack of athletic ability and speed he'd explosiveness and separation ability at that position and it changed the dynamics of the offense and and and I think that they believe That or hope anyway that that if you're still in that role and now you have that kind of a player whether Darren Waller one hunter Renfro. Josh Jacobs I am a Terrell Williams who they still believe in. Then that's going to theoretically be able to get everything out of a Derek Carr because all options will be on the table when he drops back to pass deep threat of a guy that draws defensive interest you know additional defensive In which will open things up for Darren Waller or Josh Jacobs or Hunter Renfro are Terrell Williams or conversely they have to pay ED tension to those guys so that could create some favorable one on one match ups for whoever that guy might be. You know on the edge that's creating havoc so and they believed that with that Derek Carr is going to take another step forward as well But they're just not yet ready to to really say. Hey He's the guy were not that. That's a close shot and closed deal. We're not looking at any other quarterback we're not looking to approved opposition. We feel like we have our guy they haven't said that yet And there's a little bit of frustration nation there I'm sure if you're if you're Derek Carr you want to hear that every quarterback wants to hear that that they're the guy they don't WanNa hear that. Oh Yeah we're going to bring some competition or thinking about improving that position. Well what's that say about me. If you think that we could get better you know. That's you don't hear the rams saying that about jerk off you don't see it as chiefs saying that saying that about Gotcha mahomes or any other team. That has that bet has their guy in place and teams are very clear about that. The Atlanta Falcons aren't looking and I'm having art ever articulated any desire to look for an improvement over Matt Ryan. They feel like Matt Ryan is the guy for that team. So you want to hear that as a quarterback and Derek Carr is not during that and I think the frustration kinda comes from. Hey why are you saying that about me And also creates uncertainty if you're Derek Carr as any good good quarterback would as a lay leader face a franchise. What are you doing in the off season? You're talking the perspective free agent guys that you know around the league saying hey you know what do you think about joining the raiders and so there's a recruiting element. I'm sure that that he's trying to do. And if you're the other player you might if you say well. Are you going to be the quarterback there next year. What so You know your team's on Hasn't declared that yet so so there's that To deal with some you know there's there's there's you can imagine What sort of emotions that might create and frustration that might create From the players. Perspective but the raiders perspective effective I'll give them credit because they are being honest. And they are being frank that every position is under evaluation. We're looking to get better at every position. And if an option comes around we believe is better than than Derek Carr. We're open to making that change. I don't think that happens. I do think that bell address is that wide receiver one position and give Dr Carr every opportunity to shine in twenty nine hundred twenty twenty. And it's on him to take advantage of that with with a full deck of cards But if he doesn't then this time next year all bets are off and I think I think that could change a whole lot. The thing so it's GonNa be on Derek Carr. Is he still here. Which I think you will be with a full complement of players To take advantage of that opportunity and show once and for aw definitively that. He's the quarterback for the raiders. Now tomorrow and the day after that so you did discuss their Mike Mayock and I know that you had a very extensive lengthy conversation with the raiders. Gm who I think is impressed. A ton of people. He was very impressive to me and it was no surprise is low the in the NFL draft that he was able to find guys they really fit well within the teams Culture within the dynamic of their playing playing style and how they messed with other players this season. We saw a great rookie class that was able to make a ton of impact That lead in a ton of stats. You see Josh Jacobs says the offensive rookie of the year. I mean there's a ton of things here that Mike Mayock did right for this team and you were able to speak with this guy who previously Salie had no front office experience in the NFL draft analyst for NFL DOT Com. And here he is big. Strides for the raiders What was this conversation like Vinnie? While it was it was really interesting. We talked about a lot of different things. Including including his the way he now sees the game from the position that he's procured with the raiders as the general manager. Rather than you know as a player which he used to play or as an analyst or as a San or are you know anything else that he's been in the world of football it's interesting to me What he said was that you know he was? He wanted to have more skin in the game he he. He wanted his Sundays to be more. You know to me more took to mean something more you know when he was a TV analyst. Id is a very good wanted. Great draft analyst. You do your game and Yeah that's great you go home. You knocked down a couple of beers and on the next game you know. He wanted more than that and he he says he's got it in full doses. This year has games are exhilarating. They're painful they're passionate through emotional. They run the whole gamut and he really enjoys that so he's got skin in the game now on Sundays and for the good and the bad and any fan will tell you they can understand that. Because is it your your. Your whole week is made or not made based on what happens in those three and a half hours at your team is playing and he just happens to be You know the the the the the the designer of of the team So there's a lot of passion involved But you know he was really happy. Obviously with the the draft and one of the things that he's happiest most about Any talks about this is that the players were everything that they thought they were going to be when they evaluated Adam last year at this point and not just as players but as people and you know You know he mentioned that. Look you know. I know that it's people sometimes role there is When when when you talk about building the right culture and bringing in the right guys into the building and setting a good tone by the people that you bring in the culture culture that you create as a result but but it's it's not just cliches and they're not Things that that you should scoff at. It means something and I know that as well I've I've seen I've been around sports longtime and you see knucklehead locker rooms that can that have all the talent in the world but can't get out of their own way and you know and come and go and then they're I get teams but you see other teams that might not even have as much talent per se but they're connected and they're engaged and they're invested You know and and and they and they care you know and they care about the game and they care about each other and they win as a result so there's no cliche to that and and you can never undersell the importance of culture and he feels like a foundation that they built with. Sarah and Max Crosby Josh Jacobson Upson and Trayvon Mullen how they cared about the game and how. They went about the game and competed they. He feels that's a really good foundation of moving forward and this is the first class There's another one coming up. You know they have five six like you said in the first ninety selections and You know nearly seventy million dollars to spend if they can maximize all of that with the same level infusion and then also the same character fusion this. This could get good real quick all right. Well then we're GONNA look forward to reading that article OUT IN VEGAS NATION DOT COM. That's where you can find that as well as everything else. Vinny has been up to out in Alabama Obama with the senior bowl. And then next week we're going to come at you from the Super Bowl. We will be out there covering everything happening between the chiefs and the forty niners and even some bonus stuff ed and I have planned with prospects and other things happening so you guys want to keep it tuned Vegas nation find that APP download. It subscribe to the podcast has wherever you are listening for some comments because we always love hearing from you Vegas nation is brought to you by. 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Raiders 2020 Schedule Review

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Raiders 2020 Schedule Review

"Hey there we blew. Ira just wanted to take a second to thank you for listening to this podcast. You know everything outside is pretty scary and uncertain. But we're committed to helping you get through your day by talking about the sports teams that you love most. If you're looking for more great podcast distract you check out blue pods dot com. Thanks for listening. Enjoy THE PODCAST. And stay safe. We are excited to didn't know where we're going to be planned and excited to have a city. That is cited. I haven't no matter what we are now. The Las Vegas Raiders. What's up everybody? I'm for another episode of the Vegas Patient. Podcast we are presented to you on the blue wire network by favorite drink a favor dot com. I'm your host. Heidi Fang joined with Adam Hill. Vinnie bonsignore and ED grainy. Today we're GONNA get into all of the things that you want to know about the raiders. Twenty twenty schedule. We have that release yesterday around four thirty PM on local time here in Las Vegas and it's pretty exciting stuff so we're going to break that down but I don't forget to subscribe to this podcast wherever you are listening. Download the VEGAS NATION APP. Follow us on Social Media at Vegas Nation and make sure to head over to VEGAS NATION DOT COM. Check out everything that we're doing an weekly now. We're doing a show here on Cox your view attack out wherever you have your you in your local markets and here in Vegas. It is channel fourteen. Those shows airing weekly and you could find replays of them on the web as well. Vegas NATION DOT COM so guys. Let's get into it here. We know we're opening up in Carolina and going back home to see the raiders. Play the saints Monday night. Football Vinnie. They have were prime time games. What do you think about the first two games worked out? Here with the raiders being on the road and then coming back though for the big Monday night football spotlight. Your honestly what what I see. Is that for those first? Five Games are going to get our be are against Plough teams from twenty nineteen You know in in with a with a defense. That's you know. Probably GonNa have seven new starters. They gotta get it together defensively in a hurry getting I. There's no doubt that they've made upgrades talent wise. But now it's a matter of being able to be a cohesive unit very early on against a really tough early part of the schedule and goes right to Derek Carr and all the offense of weapons that he has They're going to have scored some points a lot of points probably early on winsome shootouts early on to. Kinda carry the day while events gets it together. I think the best will as the season goes on. Get better because the players are better But it's tough sometimes. You're putting so many new faces together it's time for Derek Carr in the offense to really step it up and win the day early part of the season. 'cause it's a tough tough schedule to start off so we had the bye week and then they get ready for a Tampa Bay buccaneers. That went. I think is kind of interesting that they get that by week and then they can come full steam ahead at Tom. Brady so Adam I remember you saying before that you know they're worried about the buccaneers on also The chance that they have here against Tom Brady and facing them. Yeah I mean there's a lot to be worked out by then you don't know who's going to be playing and how they're going to work out in. Tampa but I think people who that look at Tampa as this automatic super bowl contender because Tom Brady. Is there ignore the fact that Tom Brady has been very very average the last few years a he's not a guy that's just gonNA walk in and just make this a super bowl contender so I think that they're going to be an approved team. I think their defense especially late in the is really good They're GONNA be a tough team but again prime time. Match up for the raiders. We see the theme of the schedule. Lots of Prime Time Games in Las Vegas and that means that the V. executives are very very excited that Las Vegas is part of the landscape now not only because they can showcase the market on television but also because they can come visit here. And you're going to see people that aren't even part of the broadcast on a weekly basis. Say Oh you know what I gotta go. Make sure the broadcast is okay. This week. I'm going to go out vegas mixture. Everything's on the UP. They're gonNA find excuses to travel to vegas a lot. So people could get used to this in Las Vegas for years ago. So it's Kinda interesting your that you know Adam talks about the buccaneers and took a poll here out on twitter just yesterday. Asking the fans like who they were looking forward to than the top responses. Were buccaneers New England and the Kansas City chiefs? So when you look over just I mean what their car had done against these teams. It really hasn't won against Tom Brady when he phased them. And when he's gone into New England it hasn't heard well for either but it's typically in cold weather situation. So what do you make of the breakdown of top three points that the fans are looking for? It's it's the else I guess. Starting with the reader going into New England on Sunday September twenty seventh at three well. It will be cold unless something weird happened. I don't know he's GonNa worry about that Look at New England billets. So they're going to be a dog there but I think that the inflated Student plays really with the Patriots flop bringing more but it's a hard place spar place went out but I think it's more important than had been in the past I understand Kansas City at Arrowhead. That's obviously a very very hard place to win. I'm without Tampa Bay. I wrote a little tongue and teeth and the twilight zone this morning for the paper but I do not link. Grady will win the Super Bowl. And I'm interested in sample. The I I I go on their on their number I think you know a lot of people excited because it's Brady. I WANNA be braiding not in the playoffs last year before. I believe that they're going to go deep on. I think that those three you know Kansas City would be the toughest to win. And I I think obviously baby would be in place own and New England's more only people would think I think that's actually. I think that if you look at their schedule New Orleans at home at New England Buffalo home by the way buffalo is one of the team's not hole in that whole string at casing by the Tampere like if you can get out of that three and two or two and three with what they have in the back end like you're in it for the play of wildcard. I think Kansas City when the division the extra wildcard. They just can't come out of that. Like Owen five or one in four. After win a few those responsible will pick up more wins and that's a really important stretch early in the year till five games. And then you talk about the backstretch Ed and then the bottom five games. You see a couple cold weather ones there. So many you know when I think about Eric Harley and his struggles here in cold weather would are the raiders. Do knowing that they have to face the jets where they performed miserably last year They're going into New York again to face the jets in December. And then you have the Broncos game but it's likely to be a cold weather situation as well as the last game on the schedule and these are ones that are going to be very key games. Here for the raiders so What do you think their car needs to do to get over that? Hump of Winning when it comes to being under forty degrees ahead to just you better players it you need better players and I think. That's what the raiders trying to do. Here is try to surround their car with better players and especially in that jets game Got Away from defensively to I mean they got destroyed on defense by you. Know Pretty Average. Jets jets offense just Explaining their linebackers in underneath coverage. Don't running wide receivers running backs tight ends across the field and just destroying the writers linebackers with a better team around their car. Theoretically his level of play should should approve as well. I think the writers have done that I don't think that cold weather should be any more of an excuse anymore. They've improved their defense as the year goes. I expect that the offense to get better. I think offensively. There's way too many weapons for cold weather to be any sort of an excuse. Obviously it's GonNa play a some kind of a raw but you can't go in there and throw for forty percent convert complete or under fifty percent of the year passes and throw three interceptions. Justice played terrible. There's no more room for excuses on that. If got a team around you that that that is is pretty strong. It's a strong supporting cast. Is Derek cars. Add ever in his raiders or NFL career. So the the excuse playing the called is out the window. As far as I'm concerned there's good enough players for you to be able to perform. Well whatever the conditions and so Adam you look over the schedule here and I wanted to get your take care when you talk about odds and we've talked about this a little bit yesterday. They oddsmakers have raiders at seven. And a half on the line when you look at over under for total wins on the season. Where do you put this now? That you have the schedule your hands and you can see where they're going to have tough stretches. Are Games that look? Very able for the raiders. How do you put that line now when you look at a at that? I think you're gonNA see the seven and a half. That's what the win. Total is GonNa be for the raiders. And you look through. I know the the odds are going to be going up today. I haven't seen them posted yet so I don't know if they're if they're up there yet but just kind of talking. Some sports sportsbook directors. Getting a feel for where they are. I think the raiders will be favored in four games and they'll be underdogs in twelve games. basically the sports folks don't think very highly of the raiders roster and that doesn't mean that they can't win games you could. You could be favored four games. You can win twelve or thirteen. The odds don't necessarily matter. It's just a A reading on where they think. The team is right now They are the the biggest long shot to win the division of the you know the Chiefs obviously a massive favorite with the chargers and Broncos tied for second choice in the Division. And then the the raiders are are the biggest shot so no according to you know. Las Vegas where we are They have an uphill battle. We'll try to try to get past that seven and a half number. If you're only favorite and four games you have to win at least four games as an underdog To make that happen. But you know. I don't think anybody in the team is concerned about that. I don't think fans are concerned about that. Biggest care what happens ill and if but if you look through like you know when we're kids and you know we still kind of our at heart you get your schedule you know. When you're playing a sport you get your schedule. Your your market on you put other trade and you start using a pen right next to do. We win the scandal. He loses game How are we going to do in on our schedule and ethic at the end of the year? We're going to be you know whatever you know fifteen and like as a kid. You're always thinking that but you're mark down how you think you're GONNA do with each game. And if you're doing for the raiders. Right now I think it's tough to find more than five games at your confident that you're going to win going to the season. If you're the raiders okay. So we'll take a break right there. We'll come back and we'll break this down one by one and look over some of the opponents in the AFC west and where we think the raiders might fall in that division so stay tuned right here on the Vegas Nation podcast. They say a healthy gut means a healthy. You FAVOR APPLE CIDER. Vinegar shots bottled this feeling into the convenience of a two ounce shot better digestion stronger immune system and the lowering of blood. Sugar levels are all just some of the benefits to shooting daily favor shot. Their proprietary blends are raw organic and mixed with other functional ingredients to create a better tasting experience. First Time shooters can go to drink a favor. Dot Com welcome back to the VEGAS NATION. Podcast TIDY THING. Greenie Vinnie Bunsen. You're an atom hill. Where breaking down the raiders. Twenty twenty schedule. I was talking about what the outlook is for this. Afc West Division before we stepped away. Obviously the Kansas City chiefs are on top of that division as your super bowl winners as well The raiders have that to face. They also have to face a very improved. I think Broncos team that will have jury judy now as a weapon and then you look down at the chargers that could or could not have a new quarterback when we start out looking at the situation there between tyrod Taylor and just in Herbert. They drafted at number six so Where do we see right now? Vinnie that the raiders are going to probably have an advantage over. Let's start with the broncos. Where do you think that? You know the raiders right now when you look at the Broncos team have a better strings are have the upper hand over this team when you look at what they do on the field and how they might be able to get past season. It's Kinda hard right now to go individually matchups so much can happen between now and the season thinking a broader sense and I saw this with the Rams in twenty years ago for two thousand sixteen to two thousand seventeen three or four games at their first year back in Los Angeles went down in the water. Becca was going to be decades before they could get it turned around but low behold they make some changes they bring in Robert. What's it bringing a Cooper Cup? Your Jared Goff who looked like a bust your losing six stamps. The year before All of a sudden gets turned around with a better supporting cast defensively You know they made some changes. They added some pieces in the next thing. You know they win their division and they're in the past it can happen. There is talent on this raiders team. They've slowly but surely been turning over the roster. I think in a good way in. I think that this off season really addressed sinise for them. Defensively an offense. There's no excuse for this offense not to be able to soar twenty three twenty five points a game. It would be a massive disappointment if they didn't best Tina average nineteen point six points per game last year. They have to improve. They have the talent to be able to do that. They have pieces in place to make some necessary stops in games they're not GONNA dominate defensively. But they're going to be able to on paper at least and should be able to get the back of the Derek Carr offense hands a enough times. You know to to give them a chance to to win some games. I so whether it's the Denver broncos wherever we want to talk about right now the focus needs to be on the raiders and improving by. I think three games and they should be able to do that. I obviously the bookmakers are gonNA see things. The way they be things in your nothing's happened. Nobody's got There's been no practices so it's hard to tell how this is August. Come together but man I you know. There's no way my mind that this offense can't be a lot better. I think that that's going to be able not would be the difference on a young defense or defenses coming together to have a pretty successful season to me. There's no more excuses. There's the talent is in place for this team to make a nice little turnaround here. I mean I think it's Plan on top of that. I mean I just think Evans for second. So which one improved the most? Which one's going to take those improve? Know the broncos Jerry Judy They. They upgrade their defense is Melvyn. Bordon's ill Melvin Gortat at all. That could help them a lot. You know how drew lock now? The chargers are really good defensively. Obviously you don't know how to how tyrod plane win. Urban will play really so and we know that. The raiders afraid so you know I mean it's weird creature. Tormenta beltway this morning. He said he made a great point is look if I say right now. Out Putting the raiders. And he wasn't. Here's the thing you're going to go one where they can steal and finished ten and six they can easily drop to have no business losing fixing interim five point and I look. It's made the plant one time in seventeen years. There's no like it even guests a number for teen. This made the class one in seventeen year. Thanks hopefully since Zaman done any and they have a quarterback off all right now we asked to perform. It's one of those played out and see where they're going to let me I think. Can you state the chiefs are GONNA win? Eleven and twelve and not blink horse but there's a lot there loop teams NFL. You can look at any schedules they're going to have. This many won't because you can Adams said at the other day news any game in the NFL for other than the chiefs and the Saints. A few others on put the cowboys owner. Can you and. I don't even know cowboys went. Only one eight or nine. You don't know just gotTa play it out. I think I think you're playing for second and it's all going to depend on which one of those three teens. You know what they've done to upgrade and translate out onto the field at if it does go the other way You know which got obviously. Yeah you never know as we sit here in early. May Who do you think if that were to happen? We're look back on the season at that point. Who you think would get blamed or who do you think the blame with lie if it goes sideways? Oh it'll go to Derek Carr Fair enough. I mean they're not they're not gonNA blame a head coach who's got a ten year deal. You know in in their cars lightning and he has been for a while in. I mean you know. This is not dates usually to quarterback. It's always the quarterback. Okay I'll word at a different way. Who I if it goes if it goes sideways. Who who do you believe would be like the real culprit in that case? I'm not forget like who might get blamed or what the perception might be. What do you think they? What do you think the The letdown would be if not responsible for but who literally would not live or play up to expectations for that APP. Oh I don't know if he can say single person I would just say defensively I mean. I think car would be because easy to blame the quarterback whether it's fair or not a lot of times it's not fair but if they're six and ten my guess is will be sitting here in a podcast Sane. All those supposedly defensive Improvements didn't work out because they just gave between points. Because I'm with you on the fact they should score points if they don't score points me really in trouble with what they've got it so. I don't know if it's I don't know if I can say one defensive player but I would think if they're six and ten were really honest about it will say again. They didn't perform defensively and yet you don't know people will always go to the quarterback and by the way of their six and ten. He's GonNa be the quarterback anymore so but truthfully and honestly I think if it goes south. It'll be defensively and we'll sit there and say all the upgrades said make didn't play up to their ability. Do you think at the end of this year. Cars GonNa whether whatever the record might be what we see visually on how he plays in how this offense by do you think that he'll be above the other. The back that the criticism of the responsibility now I think he should because I think they're going to score more points. Being between the twenties last drift can get ends on. Now you have whitten was great. You know he's he's up in years but he's always on the end zone. I think Henry Rugs as a difference not as much I think drugs could catch. A lot of touchdown passes but. I think he might open things up for other people. Josh Jacobs is in a second year. I think they're going to score more so I think that means car will play above expectations. But still they're seven and nine and six and ten. He could play about expectations. And not be the quarterback appalling. Yeah yeah that's that's the interesting thing for me like how you know who the person is going to be. If it doesn't work out you know this share and I guess we'll save because it's GonNa all bear out at some point. We're going to be able to figure out all right. It wasn't their cars all or you know. It wasn't the defenses offense. It's going to be entrusted to me if it goes sideways like that. You know where where the issues in Lebron's fault so everyone Mike. Mayock is putting himself out there in a position where you know he could. He can certainly take some of the criticism and I think he has done something. The last couple of years that I applaud. He's got away from group and Group. They always tells us like these. Are The guy this is the order. These are the best available players and I think far too often coach news fall victim of this general manager victim of this is what I go by what everybody else is thinking. I'm not GonNa take much critising Mike at this point to. Hey everybody felt that way but he has kind of stepped out and said. Hey these are the guys I want. This is my list. I'M GONNA to the vegetable available players to me which I think is the right thing to do and I applaud it but it also set yourself up where you are wrong. You are really taking a lot of eating a lot of criticism so you know. He's done at three years in a row with guys. Nobody thought we're going in the position. Where the raiders took him and if it works out you are genius and if it doesn't people on crucifying so I I think he's put himself in that position to which is good but you know he's got to answer for those decisions that have been made in the draft last couple of years. 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