11 Episode results for "omar wilkes"

Introducing Drafted Season 2

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

02:35 min | 4 months ago

Introducing Drafted Season 2

"Drafted as a production of shreveport media klutch sports group and iheartradio with the first pick in the two thousand and twenty nba draft. The minnesota timberwolves select. Imagine this. you've been playing basketball since you were little dreaming of going pro. Then it happens life. Is you know it changes with one phone call. Thank you won't be regret this keegan. Michael key and welcome to draft it in our first season of the podcast. We followed eight football players. Do the twenty twenty nfl draft in this second season we follow to college. Basketball phillips explosive. Anthony edwards who start at the university of georgia and the university of kentucky's reese maxi arguably the hardest working player in the draft. Now i was getting up at six. Am man working out with poor practice before ways before class. Don't doing the core. Classroom is still hard. Anthony entire east will mike themselves up until their own stories giving us a raw honest look at what it takes to go from childhood dreaver to college star to being chosen as one of only four hundred fifty nba players in the world. But also maybe it'd be a stands for no boys allowed my feel like any person any human being has been through what i've been to. You can't do nothing. He's always the chip on his shoulder. I think you need those things to be a great player. I just really. This is their real life as it unfolds in real time and we'll go further behind the scenes in this season of the podcast with unprecedented access to their agents. Klutch sports group founder and ceo. Paul having dragged was on what you here and their of basketball omar wilkes draft before. It's all a game of chess. There's always been a mystique to draft but undrafted relive every detail from the players perspective before during and after one of the biggest days of these athletes lives draft going to get drafted tonight. We still listen and follow drafted right now on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Introducing Drafted Season 2

All Ball with Doug Gottlieb

02:35 min | 4 months ago

Introducing Drafted Season 2

"Drafted as a production of shreveport media klutch sports group and iheartradio with the first pick in the two thousand and twenty nba draft. The minnesota timberwolves select. Imagine this. you've been playing basketball since you were little dreaming of going pro. Then it happens life. Is you know it changes with one phone call. Thank you won't be regret this keegan. Michael key and welcome to draft it in our first season of the podcast. We followed eight football players. Do the twenty twenty nfl draft in this second season we follow to college. Basketball phillips explosive. Anthony edwards who start at the university of georgia and the university of kentucky's reese maxi arguably the hardest working player in the draft. Now i was getting up at six. Am man working out with poor practice before ways before class. Don't doing the core. Classroom is still hard. Anthony entire east will mike themselves up until their own stories giving us a raw honest look at what it takes to go from childhood dreaver to college star to being chosen as one of only four hundred fifty nba players in the world. But also maybe it'd be a stands for no boys allowed my feel like any person any human being has been through what i've been to. You can't do nothing me. He's always the chip on his shoulder. I think you need those things to be a great blair. I just really. This is their real life as it unfolds in real time and we'll go further behind the scenes in this season of the podcast with unprecedented access to their agents. Klutch sports group founder and ceo. Paul having dragged was on what you here and their head of basketball omar wilkes draft. Unlike any before. It's all a game of chess. There's always been a mystique to draft but undrafted relive every detail from the players perspective before during and after one of the biggest days of these athletes lives draft going to get drafted tonight. We still protest. Listen and follow drafted right now on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Atlanta's Trae Young

The Woj Pod

43:37 min | 1 year ago

Atlanta's Trae Young

"Everyone welcome to another edition of the world's pod Air Seaports Studios in Manhattan and with Atlanta Hawks. trae young stay with US trade. Do you remember the last time. Maybe the only time you and I have been in these. Espn Seaport Studios Yes. It's crazy 'cause last time I was here. was draft day Early in the morning. crazy day but yeah. That was the last time I think it would have been drafted draft day. Two thousand was it in seventeen. It was it was a morning of the draft. You were here with your dad. Ray Your agent Omar Wilkes from Octagon. And you were here doing all the morning shows. You're doing get up. Maybe sportscenter morale was here. Jay Bilas we're in there and I remember standing in We have those big windows that overlook the river there. Remember saying there with your with your agent Omar Wilkes and I think your dad to trying to navigate that night of the draft and I think I had reported the day before the draft night before the Dallas was was interested in trying to move up to get don-shik and I knew Atlanta was kind of in the driver's seat there. Yeah you know with the pick and that was a You you think. Think back to that draft and that night like how much uncertainty there was right until you the deal came down just as third pick was being announced I think they were. They had the support of the agreement. Yeah no it was. It was a a lot of a lot of different things. Being said BEF In the morning Omar. I was telling me different things. They kind of just let me enjoy the day and having my dad where we're talking I guess they. I kind of figured figured out a thought that the trae was going to happen between Dallas Atlanta early on in the day and They didn't want me to enjoy all the different theories. I was doing the media days I had going on This enjoy the day and didn't tell me until literally the third pig therapeutic was was made so The the trade had happened. So yeah I think like Travis. Lincoln and Donnie Nelson and mark. Cuban think they were hashing out like the details of. I always felt that was going to happen is that they went on because I because I knew Atlanta wanted you travis. Link from the very beginning it's scattered throughout you were his guy and Dallas Dallas felt strongly about Luanch and they have always you know their history with Dirk and they've always been partial to international players open to the idea and it always felt like they were going to get there on a deal but they don't get there till they're that was the night to remember with the hats right people. I I know that bothers bothers people that you like. The traits happened. But it's not been called into the league so everyone always gets flustered. You're wearing yeah. I wrong hat. Yeah I mean it's this kind of weird so now every time I look back on draft day or you look back at the video you see. Megan call them walking across stage. Mass Hat He's walking across stage with the Hawks as was kind of weird different. But it happens. I think is exciting after lead to to do that whenever on draft night But now it's definitely weird trade fourth in the League in scoring twenty seven point eight points fourth in the League in assists eight point five. I remember when you were coming out. mark Kriegel from. ESPN did a great piece about you. And and your dad. Ray Remember one of the things you you said. Was I want to lead the league someday in scoring and assists right tiny archibald is. Done it yeah. Top foreign both in your second year. Yes what about where you thought you'd be. I think so. I mean I knew I had a chance especially how hard our off season To do some some big things as a share I worked extremely hard and yeah no Archibald only one who's who's who's I think he's the only one who's ever done it and and I owe myself to a high standard so for me. It's so about the workout. Put it in the off season in the confidence. I have so Yeah I indepth can see myself when doing it. Trae six and twenty one where the hawks are right now. You're almost in about the same spot last last year. The one common denominator no John Collins this year with the suspension last year with an injury. Think you felt this team was ready to take a step up like people were talking about. Hey this is the league past team. Probably not a playoff team yet but this is going to be a team. People WanNa Watch every night people watch watch for you but when when you learn of John Collins a suspension and he's GonNa lose you know essentially from beginning of the year till will you know through mid late December here. Is this about what you expected knowing what you had left knowing what it takes seeing going through the league once what it takes to win. Yeah now it's definitely tough is definitely todd losing your best players on your team. He's He's a mean he's continuing to work now to get ready for when he gets back to be ready to jump right in and make a difference but Yeah whenever it happened is it was sad news. We are there for John. I felt I felt bad for him. 'cause I mean we were working out a lot this summer together rather I saw the work. He put in in the stuff that he was able to do. We're looking to make a big jump this year obviously With him being auto. It's been tough but we're ready to get him back Here here soon and We're going to focus on that and moving forward. Is it hard to be a really relevant player in this league. If your team's not winning at all no matter what you're doing individually. Yeah it's it's tough it's for me it's When is the only thing I care about? Numbers that as good for for looks that but for me. It's all about winning the that's all I care about coming into the business. All care about the end of the season is how much one where I've been able to leave my team and a and So far we haven't been able to to mean to grab as many wins as I've wanted as our team has wanted so It's it's all about. It's all about game better and We've had we've had a tough steph scheduled to start the season too so Not The schedule. Beer Taylor. More Home Games. I you're coming up so it'd be good for US tray. I had one of your former teammates on the podcast last week. Taurean Prince and he told. Tell me something I thought was pretty interesting. The first college game he ever saw in person he played in the first NBA game. He ever saw him person. He put a hawks. Six Jersey on your. Your childhood was just the opposite. You grew up in Norman Oklahoma City around you all the time but the NBA you. You're down the road from Oklahoma City and You and your Dad Ray would go a lot to the games there and we'll get to that because that was pretty neat what you guys are doing game night but do you have like any context when you think about trying to build with young players in Atlanta and it's hard at first and it doesn't look good it doesn't look pretty it takes here. It is really hard for young teams to win especially with the injuries. But you grew up around that thunder team. Yeah that went through that when you were a young kid you see you have that context. 'cause you grew up around a an NBA team that now. Their trajectory rectory went fast. Yeah but does that resonate with you. Yeah it does it definitely does. It's Kinda crazy. Bring that out. 'cause I mean at three play the rockets in in Houston Able to talk to Russ after a man known for for a long time and Someone of I can talk ought to and gives me a lot of really good advice. He he's talking about his his first season via and when they lost twenty seven games straight. is crazy to see. See that I remember as a kid going to their games and There's watching him play in that the whole young team and just where they were they started started to where the big three really finish Going to the finals in Anna. Obviously breaking up But just I mean the growth if they have when they were just starting together I definitely see I mean a young team like having a chance to hopefully doing that. How long did you talk with? Russ after that game with Houston. I talked to him for. I've talked for a little bit For shaves is a good dude. I mean obviously on the court. He's a dog but He's he's a he's someone who's very very genuine is a good to your rookie year. You beat them at home you you drilled them at home last year when you think of like all the moments in your rookie year to beat. Russell Westbrook beat Oklahoma City. Given you spent at your whole childhood at those games at the one that sticks out with you. Yeah it definitely is definitely up there Ricky season without the definite big moment for means I've been there. I remember going to shoot around that morning of the game and just seeing this looking back where I had my season and tickets at in the stands. This is pretty cool to to to remember those moments. So you drive from Norman to Oklahoma City for the game You would get to the arena win on a game night. Depending on who is playing most of the time. It was an hour and a half before the game whenever they opened the doors. So you'd be standing on the steps of the arena waiting for those doors to open. Yeah Yeah I would make my dad. He wouldn't want to get there that early. Make sure once I got home from school homework At the practice makes you my dad's ready to leave so we can get there for and so would you be the guy like running down the stairs like people start going to the arena. which would be running down the stairs to get down to especially the Super Young Prior like the Middle School Years I was definitely one of those guys. I was running down just trying to get close to the court so I can see those guys warm up and that was the thing right trae watching different guys warm up routines. Yeah Yeah it was. It was something that I mean I took. I love the details though things that stood out to me so just go in there and just watching the warm up and see how they prepare for a game with was I mean you need to me. What was Kevin Durant Mansa routine? His is a lot of balance stuff I mean. He vowed stuffy he still does. Today is a lot of balances him doing stuff. I mean you can't do any game because he's spending on one leg landing on two and Just a lot of balancing Some not remember his about Russ Russ he was doing a lot of mid range a lot of a lot of Just move in A lot of a lot of shooting Just used US breaking a sweat on the he was there. He was there Part of the first ones kyrie irving carrier's doing a lot of touched a Around the RIM Working on his finishing handles Getting a lot of shots used a lot of stuff round the round. One More Damian Lillard the US I remember his I remember going to his his warm ups in to see him doing a lot of deep shots. The now's that was something that really stood out to Megan. I love shooting shooting from deep so I remember him warming up soon. Decides to as you got older Russell knew who you were. And and maybe even Kevin because they were a big high school player in that region. Maybe Russ was there longer. Kevin was gone when you're still probably earlier in an in high school we're visiting players. Would you get down like would you get a moment with different. Guises they make you get guys attention in Oklahoma City you and and and get like a a moment with them. Yeah Yeah so I mean my dad. My Dad played basketball so obviously he knows a lot of people that I played with played against against so I was able to. I mean my dad knew guys Dave Vander Pool. I mean guys at that Tony Battie in all those guys that he's known for a long time so I was able to. My Dad knew those people and and and those guys are on teams I was able to go down and I mean picture being able to speak with them for a moment So that that's how I was able to have those connections and those type of moments with these players in those those memories and those pictures trae when you're around when you're courtside in an NBA game and you get that close. The guys at that young age does does it make it feel more accessible. Does it make it feel like this isn't crazy for me to dream about this or is it. When you're when you're you're that close what people who don't ever get that close euros? How good everybody is and then physically How there's only a couple of guys your size there are many? Yeah what strikes you as a young kid who's smaller than everybody else. I mean I just I think I think for me seeing seeing guys that I mean I was real I I knew I was going to be the biggest guy growing up so for me. I was always looking for those guys. That weren't I mean. I've seen my favorite player Steve Nash. I Love Chris Paul One of my favorite players of all time But also I was looking at guys like me that they were playing Jamir Nelson. You see guys I dj Augustine. Those guys can play to the a a DJ still plan in the League. It's it's a lot of guys that I mean I've been able to play in the League for a long time. That I mean aren't aren't the biggest guys in the world that I was. They want to see an odd allies as a kid that I mean I mean gave me gave me a lot of hope that I could be one of those guys and planning you. You know your your biggest fan has peon is Royce Young. WHO's an Oklahoma Grad lives in Oklahoma City? He told me that he'd been hearing. What about you in high school norman? He went to see you play as a junior and he watched the entire first. Half thinking you or one of your teammates That you had a teammate who maybe division to and because of where you were physically usually a player who's going to be a first team all American in college who's going to be a one and done and be a high lottery pick you know who he is. The moment he walks. Does that surprise you that somebody when you think back to what you look like what it was even a junior that somebody would have known right away. Who you're now it's yeah? It's it's not surprising. I I got like I said I win. The biggest guy. Lean on another guy on my team in high schools I mean who is a big deal. Who could really play But I was just a just a small smaller kid who can just shoot. It also plays as you come in you just look at the roster you look at the the team may not you may not take me as a guy that you you assume that was a A really good player. You could've played. I think sometimes your story gets a little carried away. You could've played anywhere you wanted in college. You got grew by everybody now. I think maybe the idea was. You're you're a big time recruit. Maybe not one and done though right like Kansas Kentucky but Larry Krueger it Oklahoma who I think to me like. He's one of the most underrated coaches of his generation. He's one everywhere. He's been like really good basketball schools not great basketball schools. He wins everywhere like he doesn't always have the best talent a different places and and so like it doesn't surprise me. You would have been around Oklahoma Lot and been impressed by him but was what he was selling you. Hey we're going to build the whole thing around you. We're going to let you go out and you early on forty three against Oregon Twenty Six points twenty two assistant I think like northwestern state Sometimes there's a lawyer of saying and let me get out of town. Let me go see what something else looks like but you stayed there. Yeah now is definitely Definitely that was one of my toughest ever made period I mean for me growing up when you'RE A kid and you're watching I mean. Espn Basketball Games. You see you see the Deuce Kentucky's because All these all these coaches and teams are you. I mean you're like man this this offers me. I'M GONNA go there for sure but I mean whenever at that moment all of them really do offer you I. Yeah the decision either go the blue bloods and Or stay home in the decision really is I mean how can I get to the highest level. Because that's my dream of planning in the NBA. And the what the the look in the What you would say from just looking from outsiders you gotta go to blue blood you gotta go to Kansas to to go to the NBA for me That was probably one of the tough stains added to do one of the things for me. I had to tell my dad my dad and I because my dad had wanted me that she might play he he does go into a blue glow is probably the easiest way for me to do that. And Me Having to sit down with my mom. My Dad I mean my my family and just tell them that I wanted to stay home and play play for coach Krueger in my my home. My home on city instead of going to Blue Li- was was a tough but I mean The right decision for me. There was a tension on you and your your one season college. Unlike any player I can remember in the last until Zion Williamson last year and then he took it to another place. Part of it was because he was at Duke and it gets a lot of attention. Yeah he was really dominant and physically unique and all the things that made him a number one. Pick but your season I mean I remember the. ESPN it was. We weren't covering college basketball season. We're covering trae young. And you know you had add some big games early and I think it was like forty three against Oregon. There was a game or two that turned it. Yeah and it was the shooting from distance and it started the steph curry comparisons. Hey here's the first player from the steph curry generation. When do you remember thinking yourself? This is this is different. I'm getting. I'm getting attention. That's different than anything. Not just that I've experienced but I've seen as a college basketball fan. Yeah no now I I would probably say the Oregon game So I think he's probably two games. I'd say the Oregon Game I remember like it was yesterday. Dan Dockage was con again. I remember I had a really good game I that day and I went home. rewind the game and at the end of the Dan. Dockets was is. I think this guy could possibly be a a lottery pick And so ever since then it was just man that confidence in me we just grew and I was just ready to play every night and then I think people forget that Wichita state game we went to We we start the season unrein's we went to which stay who was number three in the country. Obviously that Landry Shamet. They had a lot of really good guys on veteran team and uh we ended up going there in winning on their court so I think that that was another moment where just took it to another level and then from then on it was. Every game was highlighted game. What would people not know unless they were going through it? What it feels liked to be nineteen years old and you're in your hometown and all of a sudden the whole world starts coming to its television like like here come the agents? There's a lot of them Right and they're like we've got a we've got a we've got to get with this kid we've gotta get with his family. We've got to find the people around. I'm them we're late on this guy. Yeah what happens what what is it like to be in the middle of it. It's a lot. It's a lightness. Sadness a lot of things that I mean is more than just basketball is more than just going on to play in a lot of things yet to do outside of basketball. Oh that I mean it's just more pressure on us you Everything you do is what is being wise even more so It's just it's A. It's a good thing to have When when people are talking about you all the time and I mean they're always they're always talking about you they're always complimenting you And then the fame started coming. But if you don't use it in the right way it can it can turn a few gains. Go bad it can turn In a heartbeat. I beat so. It's just a lot of things that you had to to really think about but at the same time at all all falls under playing in giving better so that's all either way learning all that has come after basketball so you score forty-three against Oregon. You're scoring the assist the passing. It's funny I remember when I talked to travel the length about you even during the season even before he knew where he be drafting remember he was talking about. You're passing and he did that all the way until he drafted you and and you've shown that in the NBA people think people are watching closely. Saw The left hand Mike Schmitz who spent time with your draft guy but you know the one handed. The one handed a left hand pass right handed. Pass all the things that were unique to how you play but how much like you walk in the class. You walk around campus you go into town like what is it is it. Look like what it's like in a movie where like people to start following me around campus. Yeah what is just like no is is is different so I mean for me that I the first semester Going to school with Baker Mayfield So that's that was the big man on campus So after football season it really we played probably three four weeks with the football team. Still going and Eh Baker winning the heisman. And and doing all that so I kinda got to still be a kind of a college kid while they were still going but but then after that I mean Baker into the draft and move to La in our season really got going. That's when we played Oregon. That's when we played wichita state and Got Crazy tons. I was late to class and gun show with my academic adviser because I was stopped wearing taking pictures or stopping in talking and to some other students on campus and It was it got crazy instead of my second semester. Out to take more online classes so Actually finishing and do some do my work get to get to class on time. So did you ever hang out with Mayfield much. Yeah I was able to see them. Go out with him like a Friday or Saturday I saw Khotan. So how does what does that alike in. Norman Baker Mayfield Oklahoma football heisman. Trophy winner trump. What is it like you to out somewhere in Norman? It's crazy it's crazy everybody. Everybody knows where we are so I mean it seems like everybody gravitates to where where we are Whether like social media alerts like you guys. People people like people texting poor people posting pictures. Hey they're here. Let's Amine I'll never got that to me if they did but I wouldn't be surprised because it felt like where we where it went. A lot of people there thirty minutes forty five minutes later. It's it's crowded so yes it's crazy. He's he's older than you he'd been he'd bounced around some like was he liked the pied Piper walking around there. Was it like just like a party following him down the street by that point. Yeah now you definitely the man. He was Everybody loves them. He was a I mean he was there multiple times. I mean most years before I got there so Yeah everybody's known. Everywhere he went I mean it was I mean like crazy is life you behind them. So that's it's the man no matter what teamers Fort You love connect with all on Sirius. XM HERE ESPN U.. And more your car on your phone and at home only you subscribe now with packages starting at five dollars per month. Plus fees get closer to every major league with play-by-play expert analysis and even fantasy sports coverage plus adv free music comedy entertainment news and more connect with what matters on Siriusxm visit theories dot com dot com slash listening. ESPN to learn. More subscribe channel. Channel lineup varies by package. You talk talk about what it's like. What is going well and you know you you you the biggest star in college basketball on a long time that it's not going well all season same season and it turns and it felt like as extreme as it was when it was going? Well it became extreme the other direction. Yeah now that's that's One thing that people don't I mean can lose sight of I I mean obviously I got a lot of praise when things were going. Well With Dan started going. Bad is It's not it's not so fun it's not finding for me being nineteen years old Going to enjoy my fresh year in college Means this is a tough Had I had to go through to to really prepare me for. I mean the type of person I am now on the leader. I am now I think I tell you all the time fighting. I didn't go through that. I don't think I'd be the same The same leader. I ever same player. I am now. I think that helped me a lot from just understanding. The UH the fact that I mean there's going to be ups and downs and people that are with you and then turn against you in. This insult fluctuates in this. Made me appreciate appreciate the people that are close to me and That were there for me through it. Also crazy time is a lot of it being that age TRAE and getting on social media. Yeah and reading your mentions like how much of it is. Just finding yourself caught up in that and it can almost be like paralyzing right now because it's it just keeps coming now for sure. I think that's something that I mean. Social Social Media social media is a bad bad tool whenever it's a me a lot of bad things going on Or you're not playing good. That's definitely it's something that is Bring you down a little bit more to wouldn't be as bad as you thought. Maybe once a day in the newspaper article or right on TV sometimes but now whenever you're on social media site that it's tough. Would anybody tell you your dad. Your family stop. Stop looking at it. Stop looking at yeah. Yeah and that's that's something that I I mean. I give a lot of credit because Kruger for I mean 'cause crew was there and he was. He helped me through a lot of that. I mean he gave me. There's some guys at a Meals able to talk to that. He introduced me to that And he really helped go through that that time and Yes I something I really want to thank goes Krueger for because he he me through a lot of that so it was good. You Try your relationship with your dad. He played at Texas Tech is a great story. His Best College game scores forty one against Kansas MHM The day you're born right yeah and play professionally a little bit overseas. How much did you know about about his career about sort of his journey and path when you guys are in the gym playing with each other when you guys are doing drills you're at the You know enormous on. How much of that did he share with you? You show me a little bit I mean I did a lot of the research on my head head. I mean there's Times you didn't probably didn't even know I looked up. A lot of his gains His Dad's whenever he was in college Aw against certain teams when I was in college and I they won or lost against these teams who he played against Me I remember what is it. Call it as a VCR tapes. He has a lot of yards. Yeah I I used to watch a lot of those and I was a kid His Games when you play cans I remember watching saying game Oklahoma state doesn't Mason all those guys like I'm I remember all of that in I remember seeing it as a kid. superkid unlike Just he didn't. He didn't really like bragging about it and bringing it up but he could play he could play any taught me a lot so It's good to have a unless you have like him. How did you build out trae your range? What was it that took you and kept I pushing you further back behind the three point line will so for me I when I grew up As I grew up I didn't like really dribbling the ball so I was always is on the wing play from my dad's team when I was a kid. fourth fifth grade I'll always playing agreater to up and as guys are getting taller I was just on the wing in our grown as much for me for me to get my shot off. I had to scoot my range bag and I was just moving further and further back As years got on I got stronger. and then all were to my handle solid David Move to the one and I always have As scores Battalion shooters mentality. I always had a point guard. Who could dribble out? Despite on the on the wing or in the corner just raise shoot and As as guys got taller order on Marines for them for the back. When did your handle your ability to create your own shot? When did that start come primarily eighth grade eighth grade I was I was star or new to get a better handle? I remember my ninth grade year my freshman year We had a a a point. Dr Team who play the point I was on the wing. I played Start as freshmen But I was also on the wing all the time. The average ten points freshman year in high school and I just Out on the wing ready to fight for open threes. The the the patients the Sher- tray with trying to get the team turned around trying to get guys back from suspension. Getting guys healthy. What's that Ben? You said that your your one one year in college gave you maybe some perspective that helps you now. Have you leaned on the ups and downs of that college season. Maybe even more this year than last year because I think last year. Maybe there wasn't an expectation you were going to be very good. It was. It was a team that people can take it slumps. Yeah no for sure I I think definitely on taking more from from college year too. I mean what I learned then now on this year more than last year for sure. Yeah I think A thing just just the patience. I have Lessen the net I was as a competitor in the type of person I am I you you WanNa win. Now you want to achieve all these things now and it's it's It's good to have that mentality. I think what makes me the type of player I am but a said the day I understand his patients especially not having John here We have three rookies Kes- in the second year We have a lot of young guys in. It's something that I understand is patients Damian Jones Booze. I mean I think he's in his fourth year but I mean. Do you play less games than I have with the warriors. So it's it's It's that understands. His patients on learning a lot Sunday. They night you guys play. The Lakers tough at home comes down to essentially have cam. Reddish has a three to tie it in the last few in seconds. You have a great game around your averages thirty points and what a couple of people said to me what they thought was the most impressive part of it was cam misses a three three and then they go down and closed out. was you going over to Cam and saying hey take that shot the leadership in that moment. Because he's a player you're going to need to. You'RE GONNA need down the road. What would you were you thinking about in that moment when he after you see a medicine? And he's coming back walking off the court. Yeah I feel for them that's That's the type of moment where for me I I have to be a leader out to grow and be a leader regardless of what I I had that game I mean the the easy easy thing is get mad and say why did I take Why didn't he just drilling and give it to me into the last shot but this does not? It's not the type of team that we have type every player that I want to be in this. We're out to be a leader in go to him and tell him just he's GonNa he's GonNa make some miss them. I mean we all do I would miss a lot Those type of a moment for me I felt for Cam. 'cause he he's a competitor. He could shoot. I'm the first to tell me. Can you can play. Like he can shoot and He's kind of having a season like I did last year. I the way he started way I started now. He's Kinda coming along playing Weli lately. Same we I kinda did so for me just to be there for him. Keep his head up everyday Lakers game in town. It was a lot of people there so he wanted wanted to win. That game for us but Now is just keep his head up and He's going to have another another chance Me Again in another game soon so you never knows a lot of gains in years. I was wondering keep his head up. You said it your feels his rookie year. So far maybe maybe feels a little bit like yours. It wasn't really like late. J You know like mid to late January where things really turned and all of a sudden you went from. They're they're never going to get over that trae ladonna inches. Yeah you know trae. Young's a bus and Luca Danni is going to the hall of fame and all of a sudden from the mid January to the end of the season. You've closed the gap on the rookie of the year. More there's people you know who voted for you know you rookie of the year. He wins it but I think in college. The judgments are rationed quick right. Yeah and when you're a rookie in this league with one year of college you probably not GonNa play great right away in the NBA. And I think people you know. Luca was an older player even playing pro ball older in the sense of his experiences. Certainly he's a great player. But I feel like you've got some context on that from yourself but like helping with that no for sure I definitely could see myself in camp. I mean it's hard being the I mean. I think he's twenty years old nineteen season. He's twenty years old. I mean NBA STARTING NBA It's Nice not easy easy. Sell for me. I understand how he's feeling starting the season And now he's playing now is is good to see that he's got an his confidence back. Look it is good to see that what was team. USA minicamp like for you going in the summer in Vegas. Yeah it was good. It was a great experience that was to spend a lot of time with with coach. Van Gundy I mean he's so smart he knows a lot. He's very intense aunts and It was good I was I was. I was very fortunate to be able to go out there and spend some time with him be able to compete against the other guys and it was. It was a good experience on Like I said to be tied by my coach Van. Gundy for a week sequence. Good you know everybody was taking a lot of heat for dropping out of USA basketball. You had the eye infection and I think people think there was. This thing was Trays bail on thing. Doesn't want to be there. You really had an I in fact I officially Two days we we scrimmage the national team. Today's Today's my My eyes messed up Yeah I had a bad I infection out there. So yeah. That's that's not a fake thing. What would you like to stay part of that program like do you see like trying to stay in the pipeline and and be a part of the national team of course? Of course. That's something that obviously at my dream is to play one. I've another J of winning the gold medal In winning for my country. So that's something that of course I want to keep open. I WANNA keep I WANNA keep in in. The dike reminded of winning the gold medal for for your Sunday. How much he have you taken Since that Miami game the one minute left up six. It's over now I'll take a lot of heat That's that's just a funny moment. I mean is I mean. It's crazy moment moment. I mean Europe six with a minute. Let's momentum all in our favorite At that time pretty good look good but Soon as I said it's over I think they went on and twenty two run and there was a crazy time. I mean I was funny funny. I mean it sucks losing especially losing in that fashion but Something I'll be able to look back twenty years from now and be like yeah. I'll have to remember that back. So so Jimmy Butler Kinda made a joke about it online a year ago. Now you you you kind of laugh at yourself back at them could you. Would you have gotten out of the year ago now. I probably wouldn't have done that a year ago. I think for me. It's I mean it's I don't like getting on Social Media Wars. I see a lot of guys do that. I mean nowadays a I mean go back and forth with each other on on social media Is Not who I am. I mean that's I mean Jimmy I tried to do. I said it's over. And then he retaliated out to the game and that's that's something the net. He felt that he should have done so as I laughed at it But it's all good Sherwin when you look at this Atlanta team new organization when you're trying to figure out what it means to be a franchise player and that's what you WANNA be. WanNa be a franchise the player in this league. They're building a team around you. What are you figuring out? What are you learning? What are you asking about around about like all the responsibilities responsibilities that come with it like besides playing while every night? Yeah I mean that's that's the thing is A lot more than just taking care of yourself so I mean you're taking care of your teammates. I taking care of the organization you're taking care of the fans In the city you're doing things for the community. Ability is is more than just what you do on the court odds yes the main thing yet to focus on is is. I mean being ready every night playing but it's a lot more that goes into you got to get to do community events yet to mean. Spend some time with your teammates dinner. Do little things like that and I think that's something that I mean. 'cause pierce obviously he's been around a lot of great players worked great players. Great teens than I mean you told me a lie and taught taught me about a lot. is just doing the little things that go along way dry. Thanks for dropping happening. Thanks for doing this man. Good to see you back at seaport. What year and a half after the draft year? Say It's been it's been a great year and a half so far of the come back soon visit. Is this all right. Thank you try reset it. Thanks for listening to this episode of the world's Pot a big thank you to our guest Atlanta Hawks Guard trae trae young. 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Atlanta Hawks' Trae Young

The Woj Pod

31:48 min | 3 months ago

Atlanta Hawks' Trae Young

"The world's pot is brought to you by goodyear. Helping you discover the road ahead. Goodyear more driven as we move closer to the nba playoffs. Checkout brian windhorst and the hoop collective for all of your nba needs. Follow the show. Where ever you go get your podcast. Listen up guys. We've got a big favor to ask. We promise it won't take up too much of your time. Our show supported by some fantastic sponsors. While we'd love to hear your feedback head to podcast study dot com and fill out a short anonymous survey. That's it we swear again. that's podcasts. Study dot com everyone. Welcome in to another edition of the wo- pod here was atlanta hawks. All star guard trae young. Trae how are you. I'm doing good. We'll tell you doing i'm doing great playoff-bound atlanta hawks. How does that sound has that feel right now. In the season it feels phil graham. It feels a lot better than it has has been these past couple years. Obviously when you win a lot more shows great so obviously the playoffs. Not not the angle but Be noted chief hopefully being in the playoffs This is a step in the right direction. You know typically when you come into the league trae if he get drafted as high as you do. You're coming into a bad team. You're coming into a team that probably has been in the lottery And that was certainly the case in atlanta. How much of an appreciation. You have now of how hard it is to climb out of those deaths in the nba in get in into not. Just clap. your fifth seed right now with that climb is like yeah. I definitely have a appreciation of it of the work. It tasted get a mean to win an nba game. I mean i grew up watching the thunder constantly in the constantly in the playoffs every year. Things like that now being in the nba. Like you understand how hard it is to really get there and get to the playoffs so it's definitely been a work in progress in climb for sure you know it's funny. I remember when you were coming out of oklahoma in talking to you about days is a kid with you and your dad driving over to oklahoma city You would wait on the steps of the arena right for when they open those doors and you he'll flying into the arena to go watch like who was who is warming up with like the visiting team in. Could you watch staff the home team. I can watch ross and k. D. it really probably doesn't feel like it was that long ago. That was what you were doing now for. Really it really doesn't i mean really is just Within the last ten years. I was doing that so i mean it's crazy how far i mean i've come in a definitely being an nba. Deffee appreciate. I mean the little things about it that you don't necessarily get to see from afar. I mean you're having trained here in your your third season You've been in all star the next step for you. You solidified your team near in the playoffs and then all nba right like that's something. Every player wants usually all star is the first step all. Nba's tougher To make in your mind you look at this year. Twenty four points. Nine point four assists your third in the league behind russ in james harden in interesting one. Four points scored insisted on per game this season behind. Hardin luca damian lillard Won only two players. Twenty five points nine assists along with hard in the season. I think long with winning trae. Those are the kind of numbers that i get people talking about voting and and put you in all nba contention is that europe Was at your hope. This year is your feeling that you're in that conversation. Yeah i may. Of course. I believe not should be conversation held by him. Obviously any players dream is to be an all star. Be a mvp caliber player Type of player in for me. I feel like. I've been playing that type of level Due to my teammates in our winning. I think the biggest knock on me on on awards and things like that last year Making it all nba team in Now now that we're winning and things like that. I think that has to come into play when it comes to talking about me and I think us not being able to be on. Tv all the time and not on tv yet as much as some other teams not being shown as much can can kind of hide the fact that we're we're winning. We're winning a lot more this year. And i think that's for me Been the main focus in We've we've done that. And i think with everything else going on. I feel like my cases is there. How much trae the when you think about how you. The volved is a leader from your rookie year till now and then the roster evolves around you you bring in more veteran guys bogdonovich gallon. Ra rashaan rhonda win until The trade Your roster has gotten better you grow now. The younger the younger core that came in with you. How much of you evolve is a leader in in in. What what places did you say. Hey listen. I've got to get better at doing that. I've got to get better at whether it's in the locker room on the court in the off. How did you go about trying to do that for me. Like in evolved as a leader. I i it just comes as just humble yourself and i think me having great guys i like rage on now lou But even when. I was a ricky with jeremy. Lin vince carter Understanding that different ways of of leading. And there's certain ways yet to lead certain guys. So i think for me just understanding. Now that i've had more years in his league How how to talk to certain guys and how to to get under guys skinned to get them going. her does little things. That i wasn't necessarily the best at as far as leading vocally. I've always been a great leader. By example believing vocally is been something that i had to get. Get better at coming into the league at they now have ended the best. I've had To really help me evolve as a leader as a as a vocal leader has been has been great for me. So take me back trait to the summer. And you're going into free agency. You're talking with travis schlinkert. Gm about what you are going to try to do in free agency what his goals were. What do you remember about that time. And then sort of watching it come. Together the sign and trade for mcdonagh vich a gallon. Ra in free agency At the time rondo in free agency and then rondo turned into a lou williams in the trade. Take me back to the summer and sort of. Just you're feeling. Well actually. I only i still say summer. We weren't in the summer it was it was the fall. I have no sense of calendar more on the basketball season. But but what was that like what. What were your conversations with travis. In what were you hoping what happened. Yeah i mean i remember. This is our conversations about I mean in telling me. I mean the next season could be a different team eye with definitely our core guys being bagged guys around. It could be different and so really. It's it's The whole summer processes crazy just knowing that i mean our team's gonna look different coming into this year but not knowing who yet and just waiting waiting to see what happened in Once got. I mean bogey gallo all those guys regime on it was it was just a crazy crazy kind of effect and it was my first summer. Really seeing our teen remake. Big free agency moves like this so just being a part of it Being able to to to see how it all evolved december was was or like you said it was good. The worst part is brought to you in part by progressive. What's one thing you'd purchase with a little extra savings a weighted blanket smart speaker that new self care trend. You keep hearing about well. Progressive wants to make sure you're getting what you want by helping you save money on car insurance drivers who save by switching to progressive. Save over seven hundred dollars on average in customers can qualify for an average of six discounts. When they sign up. 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Hard to find items plus grainger's committed to being your safety partner can help you keep your facility. Your people safer call. Click grainger dot com slash or. Just stop by. That's grainger g. r. a. n. g. e. r. dot com slash world. You know it's always been interesting to me. Trae like atlanta is a place that nba players love spending time. There's a lot of guys who live there who spent time in the offseason. They're not just guys who are from there. does it seem to you like atlanta. Should be a destination place for free agents in the nba. I don't know if it if it should be now. I mean we. We haven't we haven't been good recently But if you were good and if it's wrong well yeah they should be a place guys wanna play. I've always felt that about washington that the washington should be a team. If they've got go going that should be attracted the free. But you're right guys are not going to go to a losing organization even when it's in la or new york we've seen that has not attracted players. Yeah yeah and that's what i was saying. Is it's just more about the winning factor. I think that's that's been what it was in the now. We're starting to create identity when you go when you know you're going to a situation where the identity is ernie there. You know what you're going into this a winning culture and Things like that. I think it's it's more exciting in the city. The city of atlanta is going to bring excitement in excel and for us. It's all about as team. Now's is making it more exciting in making more exciting for free agency. Free agent players come here But it's not gonna be that way in this. You're winning so i think that's been the main thing for me to understand that the change in this team and really the how well you played. Cincinnati mcmillan has taken over as coach at one twenty to thirty two since he took over fifth best record or fifth best record in the nba during that span. And you guys have been dramatically different in the fourth quarter. I mean that was a place where it prior you guys had struggled to close games out and now you're among the best in the league at fourth quarter net efficiency since nato took over. What's it been like with him. How different has the relationship between the point guard in the head coach. Bean on being an extension of him. How is that how that with you too. I mean it's been it's been good. It's been really good. I think for us at the team. coach nate. I mean just one thing he always always is believed and even in the fourth quarter on early on we were down double digits in fourth quarter gains in still able to come back and you could tell every game we. We all believed and we're continuing to do that. We're continuing to trust in each other. It's showing i mean coaches Continuing to to to put confidence in each guy and we had a lot of injuries in guys going down and gaza stepping up. And then and you could tell just the the relationship. He's he's having With guys in the way he's pushing guys in giving giving everybody confidence. It's really is really helping our team in is has been good to Do so well. What was the first conversation you win. Nate had When he accepted that interim job but what was the first thing you sat down and talked about. He talked about with you. Just a meeting how we need to turn it around. I've we had. We had a talk and just just kind of sat down and how we needed to be on the same page and Thrust us thrust to be good any type of good this season and to make the postseason and we just needed to be on the same page for for him to come to me in that. Sit down me. I mean i really respect we. We've been we've been great ever since in as having that one on one dialogue for us to be able to communicate with each other like that. It's been spent great. He still has that interim coach label. I think volcano organization have talked about the really. Just handle that. I think after the season in decide how to go forward given the success this team has had and how well you played in and certainly his track record in the league as a head coach. Can you imagine a scenario where he's not back next year is is that i feel like i mean i couldn't i couldn't see if there's a scenario he's not with us. I mean the way we're winning right now. I mean we go in the playoffs. Do really well. I mean it's it's hard to see him not not back next year So it didn't matter to me. But i mean as a player. I don't see why he wouldn't be bet but you'll have betray his best player. On the team franchise guy. You'll be up for your extension after the season. Your input to management ownership on on nate would be based on what you've seen so far would be what I mean really that. He's connected with connecting with the players. i mean he's he's really pushing us is really pushing win and you can see how much he he really wants to win. And it's it's a it's showing each and every game and it doesn't matter who's on the court and i like that about him and He always believes that we can win. In that s. What you want trait. How much is this season ben. An ability to not just physically but mentally sustain yourself as a group as a team individually the isolation that you had to deal with a lot of the season in quarantine not leaving hotels not being able to go out when you're home. What's been the toll mentally you think on teams and players this year. Yeah i mean this season. I mean they may have a thirty for thirty sunday about this season. Just just just based off of all the the. I mean everything everybody had to go through with everything you said I mean just being hotel on a two week road trip when you can leave. Leave the hotel in. You're going from plane to jim too. Hotel it really does take a toll on your on your mind in your body and just everything so i think i mean maybe sunday people people will get to look into a lot more than just my eyes. As far as we're players have had to go through this season. But i know it's not just our team. Everybody in this league had to go through some this year. And that's what makes this year so so much specialists. Whoever wins this year is gonna be. It's gonna be the toughest team together to the end so this year is definitely definitely different. How about the physical grind so many games in such a tight window. You're seeing guys get her. You had the ankle recently out for a bit came back. Is it been a physical poll. That's been different than what you experience prior in this league. Yes for sure for sure Plan my first job played. Anyone could've played only two games in. I still feel like my body felt better that year than it. did this. seventy two game season on just with all the back to backs in the every other day the gains in seven days Those those types of stretches are tough in we have a lot more more of the season so I mean it's definitely a lot of your body. Small businesses have always shown an incredible ability to adapt innovate and survive even more so this past year. Now another way you can adapt and grow is by finding the right people to help grow your business. Lincoln helps you do that for free. Get started by posting your job for free to reach. Lincoln's vast and diverse network of seven hundred and forty million professionals fill out targeted screening questions. To get your role in front of the most qualified candidates with the experience skills and motivation. You need for your business then. 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Lillard steph curry right wing. William see those guys make shots. If you're watching sportscenter you're on league pass. You're watching a game and you see got you see those two especially making shots from the logo from way out in you may have made one from to feed in the night before or from same general area. Do you all the different ways you with guys in the league. Do watch those two nc where they're making shots from think about. Let me see. If i can get that spot tomorrow or or do i need to like. Do you look at that differently than anybody else does. I don't look at it as competition type a day like on it and range and who shoots further. I kind of look at it as a mean. It's not very many people could shoot. Shot a mean with consistent consistently at a at a pretty decent high percentage and I don't know when those guys shoot it. I always think steph is is making it dame shoots so consistently in So often I mean every time he shoots. I think is going in from that type of range that i watched those guys shoot it on a ton. I've watched him since. I was in high school. So yeah they've been done for When did you start getting yelled at in high school for trump for for taking that shot attempting that shot. Were they going in right away. And so no one could say anything or did you have to. Did you take some heat. When you kept moving back out there then it oklahom- it was going in going in pretty frequently. My sophomore year proudly that was. That was probably with my coast. Stop freshman year. I eat and let me take too many of those but a day my sophomore year on a couple couple of those deep deepens on He definitely start that year. But ever since then it's been it's been history talking about the grind of this season you're going to have another shortened offseason. Going into training camp obviously will be shorter for the teams who advance further in the playoffs. It might leave the olympic team without you know some of the all. Nba veterans who might have in other years decided to play. Players are all still deciding what they wanna do whether they want be a part of it can they withstand the grind of going to tokyo playing for another extended period. Is it worth it with the off season if an opportunity comes you to be a part of that olympic team. Is that something you would still have interested. of course. of course. I would emea. I feel by growing up. I missed out on. Like i miss on opportunity not making their hoops summit when i was in high school and then misnomer on a couple of usa teens for me anytime on presented opportunity to represent my country I will and so if i got present opportunity to do that. I would definitely considered and We'll see where it goes from there. You out at the camp. I guess three years ago right three years ago when they had Three years ago they had the minicamp. Yeah in vegas this to two years ago you went out. I think he had that. I injury and had to leave a couple days early What was that. Like all those guys in one jim a like. You've got the young room you've got the older group that's there what was like what was walking into that environment like into that gym. You know they give you the. Us a penny you go. I think the select group and under the senior group would you remember about that experience It was it was different It was a it was a weird experience for me because for me i felt like i should have been in the other gym This just being honest. I felt like my talent level. I should have been in the other gym plan with the. I mean having a chance to compete on that for the national team spot and it was motivating for me Although i hurt with the injury i had to leave early. But i think he was motivating for me going into next season and i think that that's kind of using us from it but it was it was a really good experience Like i said. I felt like i should have been in the other gym. Compete with those guys. You will use your level trade. How often you spend trying to find slights like that in lead. Try to leave vegas a little pissed off and say okay. This is something. I'm going to take and get myself going again. Like most of the greats have that have that intimate. I think especially players like you who maybe were told your because of size or rankings or wherever it was People saying okay. That's not going to work the next level. Okay that worked at high school. That's not going to work in college or you can do in college. But you can't do that in the nba. I think you been kind of painted that way at different times. Do those all add up for you. Keep finding those things to keep pushing you forward of course. Of course there's always there's always going to be something there's going to be something for me. It's it's just use it as motivation is little things like that. That people may not know to to later on down the road. When i'll bring it up but in that moment i'll i'll paint that picture in. Its sticks with me forever. So that's like. I said i was one of those moments in on a definitely out. Adept more Trae i think for eighty player I think certainly for any any player in the league but any young player like it separates you when you get a signature shoe deal. And so your agent. Omar wilkes called you one day and i'm sure these deals evolve over time they don't just call you and say hey. They offered it to us but there comes a point. Where adidas wants to do that with you and you look at the list. You know who. The players are gotten signature shoes. Dita's it's is lowered hardin derrick rose and donovan mitchell. Who's a little more of a pure age wise to you. What is that when he said when omar woke says you. Hey we've got this. They're gonna do it. We're going to get this deal done. Weird is that rank up in. And what does that mean. What player When you can have that that's the excitement you are. You have when you get dragutin. I mean when you get your own shoe It's it's special like for me. I remember getting the call telling me that they wanna give me my shoe. They wanna make a ty one. And i was like. I'm going crazy and it was just. It was just a crazy moment knowing that Distinct that kids are going to be wearing my shoes and looking up to the same way. I did with my idol. So it's a special thing to happen to be part of that group with dane. Dane james in endear rose and then had donovan donovan. Nextwave coming up especially the trae young one with adidas it comes out september one so You know that will be as turning into next season hatred. this was. This was a lot of fun as always. Great catching up with you Good luck here in this last stretch of the regular season and we will see you. We will see you in the playoffs. Yes sir i'll see their pre appreciated what thanks. 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03/12/21 DPS Hour 1 Dane Brugler Guest Host Ross Tucker

The Dan Patrick Show

47:59 min | 4 months ago

03/12/21 DPS Hour 1 Dane Brugler Guest Host Ross Tucker

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Or wherever you listen to podcasts. You are listening to the dan patrick show on fox sports radio the bit when fritzy reaches out to me so i guess i talked to you but it's been two years i guess since i've seen you guys in person he look a little thin. You don't really look like a former office of lime and you look more like a former tight end in the nfl little. Don't look beefy anymore. That is i am convinced that is the dream position from physique standpoint. Like if someone said to you okay. You can get us amazing. I've got like three pages of notes. This is not on there. It's over two minutes into the show is over. But i've always said if someone said to you for the rest of your life. You can have any physique. You want based on the position that you would have played as a football player. It's tight end all day every day. I mean like six six six seven like gronk six six six seven to fifty that that is the i mean. They may even a dispute that goes to get travis. Kelce his hair with it. He's got good hair. He's got great hair but no tight end is the dream. Yes mclovin. But i was a kid. There wasn't all these six four hundred thirty pound tight end. Run four fives like is this when the kids these guys didn't exist and now there's eight of them every draft no. I don't think there were guys that were this fast. There were a lot of tight ends. But they also bigger and they had to block allot mclovin unite grownup. keith jackson. remember. Key jackson oklahoma. He was the best by far there was. Nobody like was like ahead of his time. Although killing winslow came before him. Yes paulie yeah you know. There's guys like jimmy graham. I saw jimmy graham and person and it looks like a pro volleyball player in the sweet. Looks like he's shredded. Yeah because the cool thing about a tight end is like you're big enough that year a presence and nobody wants to mess with you. But you're not big enough that like your knees and back her and you're borderline obese. You know what. I mean. So ross tucker i think most of you guys know me. But it's been a while since. I've been in filling in for dan today. Eight seven seven three. Dp shows that number dp it. Dan patrick dot com live on peacock fox. Sports radio yes. I am chiming in on chat row ryan. Honolulu turned me on to chat chat. Row guy now. Dan patrick dot com. Hit us up on twitter at dp. Show i am at ross tucker. Nfl we'll have burglar from the athletic and a little bit which is important because maybe one of the most important pro days of all time is going on today. Trade lance from north dakota state played one season fcs. So we'll find out the lowdown with that. Frank is sola will come on in our number two ten twenty. Am eastern time to talk about. The patrick ewing knicks thing but really the nets. I'll just say it now. I hate the nets and everything about the nets. I don't like the all star teams. I don't like. I don't think kyrie's likable. I don't think hardens likable. i i don't like the nets and then the final hour andrew brandt. He joins me a lot on the ross. Tucker football podcast. There's a lot to talk about. I mean the kansas city chiefs yesterday there to starting off onto tackles who both had surgery last month major back surgery major achilles at least eighteen cut him while they were at the hospital on the operating table. Surgery went well. You are released at least waited a month but believe it or not. I am convinced that this happened. Because i'm guest hosting today. We have major. Nfl breaking news to start to show the new england. Patriots have gotten an acquired their presumed starting quarterback for the twenty twenty one season. Now i'm gonna go around to the debt. Because i love the dannettes and by the way i don't i don't say suck it back row. I love the back row. Okay you go all right so the first question would be this before you guys all know because we talked about it but if i just said patriots acquired their quarterback for twenty twenty one fritzy who would have been your guests. I would have said that they would have kept came back for one more year based on what they can cause everything. You hearing about shawn watson and all these guys may be jimmy. Garoppolo popped into my mind before to bring him back mclovin. Yeah i hate to be only camera jimmy g. Were the only two names. And that's the only two seton but set a couple of times that i think they're bringing back. Paulie sam darnold. I did not think they're going to bring him back. I did not. I did not think it went very well last year. I did not think that they would bring cam back. And here's the thing if we're using logic right now it can't be one of the guys. It's a free agent. Free agency doesn't start until march seventeenth can't be a draft pick because the drafts until late april so the only people could have been or it would be either cam or trade for like a sam darnold or jimmy g. I don't think i would have guessed. Jimmy g. this morning so i probably would have said cam just because of what is that. Deductive reasoning that. What i just did right there. Do deductive reasoning as ivy league. Talk me yes paulie. Are they a contender or even close to being a super bowl contender with their current quarterback position. I don't think so. So why are you signing him to do what. Nba for both of them for both parties. Cam and the patriots. Next best alternative for cam. He knows the offense. He's been there for a year. I don't think cam was guaranteed to start anywhere else. This is a place where at least knows. He's got a seat at the table. Starting your whole foods employees. The table member in fritzy got got latimer on the show that was program starting to lose the table so anyway the movie that program by the way if you know like when i say latimer if you don't know that that's from the movie the program whole over in your car right now and reevaluate however you got to this point in your life and then go back and watch the program. I've seen that movie thirty forty times but anyway starting offense place at the table for cam newton. This was his next best alternative. And then i think for the patriots. Everything's very up in the air. What free are they going to sign. Jameis winston fitzpatrick. Are those guys going to be better for them. And twenty twenty one then at cam. Who's actually been there for a year. Yes paul don't you think that by signing cam newton. It's obviously a one year deal that they'll take a quarterback in the second round and try to mold him into the next person like they were trying to do jimmy garoppolo again get in the second round. Well it certainly is funny. Everyone that is tweet about this. Okay jim mcbride from the blah. Boston globe. Tom pella sarraut from nfl. Network adam schefter espn. They all went out of their way to say. This does not preclude the patriots from doing other things at the quarterback position. It's almost like whoever leaked that to them and told them what the deal was like. Make it clear that we might do other stuff now. Let's go deep into this okay. Does that mean they're not going to get another veteran. That seems unlikely. So does that mean that. They're going to draft somebody or does that mean they want us to think they're going to draft somebody but they're really not mclovin. What do you think there's a guy saying that they're going to trade up and get somebody at number four in the draft. That sounds like the most unpatriotic move ever. They've never done anything like that. Here's the thing. I don't think they need to trade up there at fifteen. There are five quarterbacks. And we'll talk to jane burglar about this fifteen minutes. But there are five quarterbacks who i've seen go and top. Tens of various mock drafts trevor. Lawrence zack wilson trae lance justin fields mack jones. One of those guys is gonna fall to fifteen. I mean it happens every one of those guys now. The question is is it a guy that the patriots one is that the guy they want or is it the one or two that they want. This might be trae lance. There's a lot of risk they're taking a guy that's played one year. Fcs football and has played one game in the last whatever. It is year and a half. Don't you think trae. Lance would be the perfect guy to sit behind cam. For one year they're similar trailing ran over twenty one miles an hour next gen stats. He got a lot of similarities to cam. That would be the perfect guy for trae lance to learn from for a year. Yes paul and there's other quarterbacks and play if the falcons the falcons had the ford pick of the draft if they trade or take a quarterback there what if matt ryan all of a sudden and play in late april you know there's another guy who's still young enough to get a few years left. I don't know if that's necessarily the patriots. But matt ryan might be in play for another team. The problem is matt. Ryan would be over forty million dollars of dead cap. Money to the falcons. I just don't think they can do it. I think the falcons might draft a quarterback. But that guy's gonna sit for a year behind matt ryan and then they trade matt next year. Yeah fritzy they got their own teams to worry about. But one of the bill's thinking today. Or even tom brady after that was his previous team. I'd be curious as to what's going through their mind. This cam newton one year thing. So listen i think all brady really cares about. Is that the patriots. Don't win the super bowl without him. And i don't think he's worried about cam. Newton winning the superbowl shouldn't be now listen. They didn't have a very good team around cam last year. Oh line was okay. The skill guys struggled. He'll have better people around him. They'll have a better feel for how to use them. But the patriots are not winning. The superbowls cam newton. I mean look at the mess that i left my former team where they don't know what to do with the quarterback position and signing cam for another one year deal. Can we just. Can we just put this out there. Ok brady knows what the deal is. Brady knows that everybody's keeping score on what he does. Po spell check and what bella check does post brady and he's way ahead and by the way the bucks might win it again this year at least have a decent chance. The patriots are not winning super with cam. Newton is anybody out there. Raise your hand. If you think there's a better than two percent chance the pacers would win the super bowl with cam newton. I don't think anybody would pick them to win the afc east right now over buffalo. Of course it's possible. But who would. I don't think anybody would. And then wait till the dolphin to the jets. Get to shawn watson. yes mclovin. What is the other option. What's what's playing be. That's the problem. I think they looked at cam. And plus it's burden hand right like the patriots didn't want to go into free agency with nobody and and we'll talk about the money. Let me ask you this. Because i saw what it is now but we all wrote down in the morning meeting. We all wrote down what we thought the contract for cam would be. It's out now what it is. Let's start with you fritzie. I was extremely low. I they were gonna give them two point five million maybe some incentives that could get him to the eight to ten million but two point five million was worth mclovin. You're going to think i cheated. Thirteen wow nice mclovin seton. I was going more in the five range. Okay pauly eight million. I had one year ten million. I thought they'd get in the ten one year ten million. They gave him exactly. What rothlisburger is making this year. Fourteen million that must be what you get if you're like a former. Mvp that's not what you used to be that must be. They're going rate for guys that as they ever was go ahead and so and what i'm reading is that fourteen million is all incentives so that his base pay is actually if that fourteen million is assuming everything goes perfectly this year and they win the super bowl at if it doesn't go perfectly and they don't think it's going to be a lot less than that yes mclovin high back of money's like eight right seven eight nine so this is like high high backup of like the chase. Daniel's the case keenum's yeah. Yes paul one thing understand what mclovin saying you know. What choice did the patriots have their choosing mediocrity choosing to be in the middle at the quarterback position instead of going with a young guy who you reset the franchise or an older guy. Who can help you win. If you're not getting better at the quarterback position you're getting worse. Wouldn't if you're the patriots wouldn't you i know they don't ever trade up the corporate the fifteenth pick. It's been a long time since a top fifteen. Pick if you're the patriots. Isn't this the year to make a move. They haven't they still might write a one year deal for not that much money. They're going to have much better guys around cam. I think the check thinks they can win. Double digit games with cam and the revamped roster get in the playoffs. You never know what happens. And by the way if it goes south they're going to have a first or second round pick quarter. They're going to have a rookie quarterback if. Ken doesn't play well. They're gonna put that kid in. Ross you're both pretend you're still playing in. You're playing for the patriots and i said you had a vote. You could have cam. Newton for fifteen million. You don't care about the money or ryan fitzpatrick this upcoming season. Baltimore available today. Ryan fitzpatrick okay. Chance to win right. What's that better chance to win. Better health i believe. Look i think a lot of these teams that need a quarterback. The bears whoever i always see. Trubisky jameis winston. Mario data cam. Are we shirt. That those teams would win. More games with fits. Are we sure about that. Because i'm not. He played well last year. Yes he he's never made the playoffs who ryan fitzpatrick. Okay right. But i mean i'm just saying if he gives the patriots such a better chance of winning. He's a guy in his whole career. He's never won ten and six the one year with the jets so he did go tendon six. You know that we're thinking about that satan. Is i feel like he's playing his best football now you know. He won five games with a dolphin team. That was trying to tank by the way note to self. If you're trying to tank don't sign ryan fitzpatrick as your quarterback and again for. Here's a harvard connection. Harvard never plays they. Don't do postseason ivy league ryan. Fitzpatrick doesn't do the postseason when he's in the nfl. So should i get offended by that as slight at the ivy league or should i be happy about that as a knock at harvard. Does it bother you. That the ivy league doesn't maybe you could point the ivy league. Shouldn't they take their champion. Put them in the playoffs. Don't even get me started. That's got bother you as a player. Oh my gosh. Don't even get sure the weird thing about it is and these are the topics that everybody nationally really cares but the weird thing about it is. The lacrosse team won the national championship. Three four years in college and the basketball team wants the tournament and won a game my freshman year. So why can the other sports too. But we can't and that's very never ever understood. Nobody ever gave me a good explanation for that by the way. If i'm a little off my game there's a reason for that. And i will explain exactly what that reason is when we returned seventeen minutes past the hour. This is the dan. patrick show guys. 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Okay and usually. When i'm working out. I have comcast. That's that's peacock right. Comcast peacock same family sure. Yeah i'm with it so anyway. And i listen to different music channels and i used to always listen to like top forty hits over the last month or so. I have been listening exclusively to the eighties channel. My workouts have gone up twenty percent. My workouts have gone up twenty percent. The eighty s music is by far the best music. For when you're working out it's not even close like i'm telling you think about this. Okay think about rocky four soundtrack think about like first of all i of the tiger one hundred percent. Who's who was the heavyweight champ. Right now cain velasquez or something. Yeah that guy's dead. If i'm listening to the tiger he's a dead man. If that song is on the guys that dead me. That's number one number two van. Halen jump bon jovi living on a prayer. Even the song yesterday yesterday i was. I was doing curls. I was like maybe. He's no romeo but he's not one man show. Let's hear it for the board. Tell me you can't lift more. I have no idea who sings that song but tell me you can't look more when she says let's hear for the boy you're sound a throwing soundtracks from footloose on putting up some weight. I don't know eighties music. I don't know every music. Every song gets me gets me jack. Yeah that'd be denise williams for you never heard of her. I don't care sounds awesome. Well maybe i don't but that's okay with me. The strength coach down at bama you put this on. It's go time. tell me tell me. This awesome loves me. I think there's people out there that would tell you that what this is awesome. You gotta get to the part. Where he goes fast she goes. Maybe he's no romeo but he's my love and one man show. Let's hear it for the boy. That's the can't lift more for this is gonna live some more for me this morning. Danes been waiting long enough. His name is dane burglar. he was on the college draft podcast. This week i'd have him on every week if i could hear. Absolute stud check him out on twitter at dp burglar his rankings. His everything dane knows everything about these guys like even kids. I know from high school. He knows things about them in high school that i didn't know it's unbelievable dane. It's ross twice in one week man you to guide say that lead in a this is a prospect interview. I don't know if that's a red flag more likely to draft you now. I can't tell all right so dane you are young looking but can you at least be with me and agree with me on eighty s music. Sure i was born in the eighties. And i went plenty of eighty s parties in college So you know. I got my fill Yeah i'm with you. I mean like i said i i i was a little. I don't know this might be a red flag but the more you got into it. I was like all right. I'm with. I'm liking this so yeah i'm with you why you should like you know why not a red flag you want people that are passionate about things in life and you know what scout burglar. I am even more passionate about football than i am about. Eighty s music and that's of passion. I'm going to have for your team. If you draft me. I love it. I ll soul third grade all right. So here's the deal all right trey lance played. Fcs football. i played football. He played one year as a redshirt freshman. And that's it then. He played one game this fall and now we supposedly a top ten pick. So we've got his pro day today. I guess the first question. Dana is is this the most pro day ever i mean. Where do you put this in in the pro day all time importance rankings. There's no combine. He played one year. Fcs football right. Obviously this Pro day care is a little bit extra weight just with you set it up. Seventeen starts have college level. he's an unprecedent evaluation. There's no other way to say it it. Obviously we've seen players from the afc s level go to the nfl at quarterback find success. Carson wentz jimmy garoppolo go back steve mcnair. But we've never seen an fcs quarterback with the you know only twenty years old with such meagre experienced his talent level. A go to the nfl this so only seventeen starts and none of those starts against fps competition. A lot of times we might have one game against iowa state or something like that. Not not with him because he's only a redshirt sophomore. We don't have the benefit of the senior bowl or you know the see him with the better competition that's something that really helped carson wentz jimmy garoppolo when they were coming out a senior so it's really an unprecedented evaluation and that's not a reason to not draft him but it does make it a little bit more of a challenge especially because at north dakota state. They had their offense identity. They're not gonna change just because they have a. Maybe a higher level quarterback in seventeen career starts Lance averaged eighteen point. Six pass attempts per game while the team averaged forty five rush attempts per game so this is not a quarterback that had to put the team on his back and make things happen so he did it. Plenty plenty times. But that's not how the offense set up so a his pro day today is going to be well attended by. Nfl teams just like his one game was back in october. And they wanna see him. Throw the ball to how the ball comes off his hand. But more importantly it's going to be about the interviews for trae lance. Where is he mentally in his development North dakota state. Nice job in terms of Getting him ready for this moment. Quincy avery quarterback trainer who works with a lot of nfl quarterback deshaun watson as you know. He's told me how advanced he is for. Twenty rule in that goes back to north dakota stage in what they do during the week in terms of putting more and more on his plate preparation techniques Things like that on game day he can set protections he could make checks do all these things that freedom so even though he is twenty years old even though he has meager experience i think teams are going to be impressed with the chance to sit down with them and really talk to him Unfortunately this year is going to be all virtual. You don't pass years. They'd be taking out for dinner Last night for the day were out for lunch today after the pro day. Not going to have that opportunity this year. It's gonna be virtual so just everything's different and that's gonna make it really interesting for a player like this. Who's again such as an unprecedented evaluation so dane. I know you know this. How did he get to north dakota state. I mean he's six four to twenty. I've seen him throw a beautiful deep ball. Strong arm i was reading the next gen stats. He's got four carries over twenty miles an hour like he appears to be a total physical freak. Show how did he get to north dakota state in the first place and born and raised in a small town in minnesota about one hundred fifty miles west of minneapolis. So that's the first thing. He was really a running back most of his life at the high school and they moved him to quarterback becomes a starter as a sophomore in kind of grew from there. he got better and better But you know even as a senior he. He was playing safety. He had fifty four tackles and three interceptions as a senior safety. Which you don't see a lot You know with these quarterbacks usually their quarterback only and that's it they're going to quarterback camps since they were ten years old that just wasn't the case Trae lance and so as a recruit a couple fps teams did look at him western michigan They offered him right before. Signing day. Boise state got in the mix a little bit later. But at that point he was already set on north dakota state and you know he goes their red shirts and then it has that Prolific redshirt freshman year where he had what was twenty eight touchdowns zero interceptions. Just a remarkable redshirt freshman campaign led north dakota state to the fcs national title. Bevy drew it up textbook. What you want But it's the only season. We have go off based or aside from that one game in october. So disabled size isn't great but the talent is sure intriguing talking with dane burglar from the athletic at deep root brewer on twitter by the way the only one that knows fifty four tackles for trae lances senior high school. Nobody else knows that. Fifty four tackles three interceptions. I guess the last one on lance. 'cause i want to ask you about a couple of other guys is just. Is there a player in the nfl. Comparison that you like and has there ever been another circumstance like this where a guy really only played one year. We've seen guys Stay about the quarterback position play. One season You know mitchell trubisky obviously That was well. We'll talk a lot talked about during his lead up to the draft. But the one quarterback where you can draw. Some comparisons is tyler. Murray when you think about the skill set now lands bigger and keiler is a little quicker but in terms of the sample size. The number of starts it similar In terms of on tape you see a lot of one read run throws but you see a smart guy who's able to create the arm talent but y'all says the mobility so i i think there's some comparisons there Just turned of style. Now again Lance is bigger not quite as quick but in terms of what they did the college level and what they can do it the next level. I think there's some similarities so you know but this is unprecedented. Really you again when you talk about a from the us level having such meagre experienced and not having the benefit of the senior carson wentz. He only played. He was only a year and a half starbucks at north dakota state but in going to the senior bowl really helped himself that went from a yeah. He could probably be a first pick to all of a sudden. He's in the top. Three mix and eagles are trading up for him so not having the senior bowl not having a combine. that's That's a it's a. It's a missed opportunity. Unfortunately but again. That's not the reason not to draft him. It just makes a little bit more of a challenge when you try to figure out okay where to see Where does he stack. Especially in a class like this. Where there's a lot of other quarterbacks with lawrence. Zack wilson justin fields jones so plenty of options at quarterback in his class. You mentioned that i'm curious. Is lance your number three guy or do you have fields ahead of them. It seems like everybody has lawrence one wilson to. I guess not everybody. Simms has wilson one but most people have lawrence one wilson to is it lance or fields. Three for you. You know. I think right. Now i've got feels three lance for but those guys are next for me I do think lawrence Isn't clear top guy. And zack wilson. I you know back in the fall. I kinda put it out there that this guy's got a chance to be the number two quarterback and you know it really gonna come to fruition. I talked to people. Run the league. It they love that wilson. They're really intrigued with what he can do. That skill set and then three and four. That's where it's interesting. Because i think you have just field lance both have a lot to offer a physically talented. I think it really comes down to figuring them out mentally. Where are they in their development With justin feels what he was asked to do. In that ryan day offense compared trae lands when he was asked to do with north dakota state very very different and so three and four to me are very close. And then you've got a matt jones who eat all its nationals. Is difficult because you know you have if you list that what. You're looking for the quarterback position you know the traits you start with decision-making inaccuracy those are one and two and mac. Jones has that So it'll add. Think you have to look at everything else case. He good enough in these other areas. Where he's going to be a guy that could be a starter for us and so h teams looking at that differently. Some teams that have a more established roster going to be more interested in him while some other teams that Need more out of their quarterback. They won't be as high on the alabama quarterback so it really interesting dynamic between these quarterbacks and how the teams are going to view them. Kinda crazy i mean you probably know some of off the top of your head dame. Aren't there some power five schools that have had a guy drafted at all and like twenty years at the quarterback position. Meanwhile north dakota state is going to have a second top ten guy in like six years. It's gimme a couple of programs off the top of your head. I'm sure you know a couple that haven't had a guy. Drafted are drafted high in a long time. Well state was like the higher state. Had not had a from quarterback in a long long time but for dwayne haskins In the obviously ohio state is cream of the crop. When you talk about recruiting you talk about college level players And they had not produced a you know a high level quarterback You could go back to the seventies and you know they. It's interesting because North dakota state has really done a great job identifying these guys and developing them and that goes back to what they're asked to do. What the the of their quarterbacks in terms of during the week in preparation really really impressive. So there's a lot of programs you know even before last year with two of you look at alabama and quarterbacks to they produce not a lot of high level quarterbacks even during the nick sabin era too was the first first round earned a while. There's plenty of top level college programs. That have not produced a type of quarterbacks in north dakota state has here's we gotta do you gotta check out dane on twitter at dp. Check out all the stuff. He's doing for the athletic. You can hear him earlier this week. Talking about the guy that was a punter basketball player only as a junior in high school that might get drafted it tight end in the nfl draft on the college draft. Podcast part of the ross. Tucker podcast network dane. You are the man. I meant what i said. Thank you so much. Thanks for us. Dairy is dane burglar. loved aimed. burglar love the players championship as well. By the way rory mcilroy and the pga tour very best take on the purest of golf courses pc sawgrass who will have this year's defining moment coverage continues today on golf channel and tomorrow one eastern on nbc. Did you see by the way that video you guys see. The video was ian. Poulter was with three guys. At the nineteenth hole they were a combined plus twenty nine yesterday then the pga tour put a tweet out like polls like this is what they're all having a daddy soda and he said something like this is what you do when you're a combined plus twenty nine on the first day of tournament they're all just sitting there drinking. Beer why do we like it so much especially golf when they do poorly go ahead. Paul there was a golfer who put four drives into the drink on a par three yesterday. And you both cringe. Oh that's that's how i would do. That's how i would be on that hole so it makes them weirdly relatable for a couple of minutes. how many. How many shots would it take for you to hit the hit. The green was it the seventeen toll where it's like that little island of land surrounded by water it. I guess it would be just luck if one of us you'd probably be in your own head looking all that water and we just swallow you. What do they do. What do they do with the balls like there has to be thousands or millions. They had like a big net underneath there. There's got to be mike. Grandpa my pop up. He would jump in. Go seeing yes you know what it is to about that whole. I think it's not so much hitting it. It's getting it to stay on right. I think we could probably hit it. But it's just going to bounce over you know that it's getting it to stop and just stay. You need to do like the arc thing where hits and then spins back a little bit little english on the seventeenth hole. Hello friends all right. Play in a day. I already know what i know. 'cause you guys told me but i already knew before you guys told me what the player today would be. Forty one minutes past the hour. This is the dan patrick show. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out. This is kiki michael key and welcome to draft it. This podcast series follows to college basketball phoenix the explosive anthony edwards. Who start at the university of georgia superstar and the university of kentucky's tie reese maxi arguably the most energetic hardest working player in the draft is draft my to get drafted tonight. We still moving couches. This is their real life as it unfolds in real time and we're going even further behind the scenes with unprecedented access to their agents. Klutch sports group founder and ceo. Rich paul heavy draft. What's going on what you hear their basketball omar wilkes. This is a draft unlike any before. It's all a game of chess. Listen and follow on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts gonna play play of the day play. Check this out. Five seconds left house. Or clark clark fees it off. Here's a three pointer from beaten for his first talk. Come through as winter. Hord saturday two to sixty cavaliers fan. That was reese beekman hitting the game. Winning three pointer to give virginia a seventy to sixty nine victory over syracuse to advance to the semifinals of the acc tournament. Just the ninth three pointer for beekman all season. He's nine for thirty five now after hitting that he had not made one in just over a month. That was the only shot he made all game. Courtesy of the virginia sports radio network. Unfortunately we have some bad breaking news for virginia paula. Can you hit it. According to the mothership the acc announced that. The georgia tech virginia game has been cancelled following a positive test subsequent quarantining and contact tracing within the virginia program georgia tech advance to the men's acc tournament. Championship game guys. This is going to be crazy. I mean this this. I mean that's two now dukes how it happened to do yesterday when they're supposed to play florida state now virginia. They're all happy by the way it's like the day after they're happy and they win. Duke beat louisville. We're happy we win next day. Somebody test positive. Maybe duke in virginia should start their own tournament like take a little pause ten days and then put together some teams well. Virginia's still going to be able to be in the ncaa tournament right for sure. I saw a lot of stories saying he's virginia to be able to be in the tournament probably but i don't think it's certain is georgia tech so if they win this. Acc title by default is at lake. The you celebrate. I mean they gotta play the yes. Yes you celebrate. Yes you celebrate in a major way. By the way. I was talking earlier about the supplement. I take in the morning which is eighties music. Okay the supplement. You guys take is em drive. Powerful ingredients backed by science. I know you guys. I've here all time and dan talk about help. You get energized stronger. Leaner go to 'em drive. Dan dot com today. Get free shipping and a sixty day money back guarantee. Don't let age beach. You re find your prime with 'em drive end eighties music. Think about what could happen if you double down on both of those drive end eighties music. I'm so bum for these kids. This stinks and the crazy thing is whether it's duke or uva a year a year ago. This morning i woke up at four thirty a. m and called my buddy. Who's a doctor. I was supposed to fly out west to go skiing. And he's like you should go. You can't go because the night before was tom. Hanks go bear. The president said no international flights. It's of crazy that here. We are a year later and we're still having games cancelled. Evidently i think i read this right mclovin. Evidently you need as long as you have five players and the ncaa tournament yeah. I think that's the case. So that means for contact tracing stuff for like uva. They didn't have five guys. That could go out there today so it seems to me like what teams need to do is get an extra boss. Don't have these guys together like have have a bus a at a bus. Be and don't ever let those guys get within contact because you want to at least make sure you have six dudes or five dudes in case somebody test positive right. How are we not going to have people positive when everybody's in indianapolis do cod. This year had their own basically hotel off. Campus at all the athletes were staying at and they didn't even go to greensboro to stay in the local hotels. Which were you know. They had covert rules on the cost of it. They were going back and forth on the team bus. You know. i think it's really crazy about that. Avondale say this. There are multiple reports out there. That the guy that tested positive was a walk on and that by the way is why louisville doesn't have any issues team that played duke because there's no contact tracing for the other team because he didn't play in the game. How do you feel that. If you're that kid that young man. That is a tough one to look into starters to look at the scholarship guys. Because you know. I mean there's there's two ways you can go there right that'd be guys be like. Don't worry about it man things happen. There's a couple of guys that this was this is their whole lives. And somehow that. Walk on and i would look. We don't know what he did but somehow he did something and tested positive seton. That is true that everybody can look at this guy and be like man you cost us but there's a bunch of other people on that team would be. Hey man. you had all season to not stink. I just messed up. There's one thing. Because i got caught co but you guys are the ones who games barely squeaking in if maybe you beat florida state you might get in easy on the covid guy by the way. How crazy duke and kentucky not going to be in the tournament duke and kentucky. Yes paul according nca protocols with virginia and these other teams they require seven consecutive days of negative test. Before arriving in indy for the tournament that plus whatever quarantine is required for your specific team. So virginia's that's tight so wait a minute seven days. The this tournament starts a day later. This year does not start on thursday. It starts on friday. What yeah they bumped it back a day. We just found out that i understand. We the in saturday's the first round right sunday and monday's the second round right do we. Do we know logic for that. It's i think i just like this. They bump back a day because if during a tournament. This that one day could help. 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03/24/2021 - Best of The Herd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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03/24/2021 - Best of The Herd

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Nfs one find your local station for the hurt at fox sports radio dot com or stream. It live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard is the best of the herd with colin cowherd on fox sports radio Here we go in a busy wednesday boy. What a guest list we have. But they live in los angeles. It's the heard wherever you may be in how web burger. You may be listening. Iheartradio fox sports radio one. Today is wednesday hurt. Brought to you by jersey. Mike subs be a saab of bog. Like the big. Everybody signed in dom consumer gonna sign donovan. Smith just signed everybody. It is amazing. About how the cap works. Chicago doesn't pay their quarterback anything and they had let go their best corner. Tampa keep which we have an all star team. Bring them all end people that know how to manipulate that cap are there can't be many of them because in certain teams that seem to figure this out every single year. And you're like we all are working with the same numbers right like the rams you guys all have used the same numbers. How do you guys have all these players and nobody players. Somethings can't signed another extension. Green bay couldn't keep pro bowl center. Yeah the only pay like guys. It's amazing and one of those guys. Aaron rodgers so i am a. I'm a big believer in fit. Okay so adjoin. I have bounced around in our careers a lot and one of the reasons i came to fox. I thought it was a better fit for me than espn espn was very corporate. Very disney. very lion king very safe. And i'm i'm kind of a letter rip guy and big opinions and i have a lot of things i'm doing on the side and fox's like you do your stuff whatever you wanna do start companies. Whatever and i thought was a better fit. That'd mean it's a better company. But i do think fit is really important and i've always said aaron rodgers is a weird fit in green bay so aaron rodgers last year. Green bay drafts a quarterback in the first round translation. We're gonna move on here pretty quick. Then aaron comes out and crushes it. Mvp numbers amazon. You love me right. see i'm good. No no. we're still moving. According to a story yesterday green bay paid rogers seven million dollars roster bonus they did not convert it to a signing bonus colin. What does that mean. it's confusing. What it means is they can move off air and sooner so they didn't convert it to a signing bonus meaning. They're looking to move off pretty quick. Now that sounds counterintuitive. Why would you move off. Never forget this when green bay moved off brett farve go look it up. He had just had his best year in a decade. He was a pro bowler. There were thirteen and three. He got an nfc championship and he was six months. Older than aaron rodgers is today that was brett. Farve wasn't falling apart. He just had a great year. They had just gone thirteen and three. He had just made the pro bowl. He just cranked up a great year and they moved off why because they saw him as expensive and a star that was increasingly needy. That's kind of a green beast green bay. It's funny how it lands so green bay's always been about development. We all know this. This is not new. it's very small. It's a small sports town in america. It's got that midwestern small town ethos. They're almost cynical about money and started kind of cynical right like when the wisconsin. Badgers hired borough in the basketball coach. They hired him from right down the road and it didn't go for big stars. They had all the money wisconsin at all the money. If you look at the history of wisconsin football the last twenty years they make a ton of money. It's one of the most lucrative athletic department in andhra country. They never hire a big stars coach. They never do their cynical of the big money not that. It's jaded that. Just the way wisconsin is. They got their ts. They got their packers. We don't need outsiders were homegrown. We develop it's been west. It's our ethos and here's rockstar. Brett farve rockstar. Aaron rodgers so so they draft jordan love obviously draft quarterback. I grow not playing. It'd be just a total waste. A draft pick but it's funny how it lands. It's a weird fit between aaron and the packers and if you read this story basically you know they don't want to offend aaron. they're structuring. This contract move off sooner than later. And it's interesting how it lands for aaron whenever getting a like an argument with your wife or your husband. The first thing i'd psychologist taught me this years ago. He said we'll just make sure it lands for her like it lands for you. You may have an argument. It doesn't necessarily land the same arguments. Don't so for aaron rodgers. here's how the current situation lands. You can't get many players for green bay. Here's how it lands. Well we would like to get you more but you're too expensive and you're getting older and you're kind of needy and both could be right. Aaron can't get more stars that's why when they play tampa this year and go to it. Looks like tampa has far. More good players brady takes pay cut. That's why when they played san francisco a couple of years ago and garoppolo wasn't making a fortune. It looked like san francisco had way more good players. So how does it land. Aaron rodgers this whole thing lands like you can't get me more good players. You can't even keep my center. You couldn't keep jared cook. I can't get. Jj watt and for green bay. They look at it and think dude. We're building this developmental roster making fifth rounders pro bowlers. We would love to get more players but you cost us almost thirty five million dollars a year. We're doing our part. You're not sacrificing. We're not going out and overspending and making it easy and getting free agents. We're not cherry. Picking like the giants adoree jackson kenny. Golladay or like the jets You know carl lawson and corey. We don't do that so we have to sacrifice in green bay. We are sacrificing aaron all the time to small town. This is our ethos. We have to draft and develop endure big contract guy or getting in our way. And so i mean. It's you know. Tom brady's cap hit. This year is twenty million. Last aaron rodgers. That's why they have an all star team. So i just this. This whole thing is very interesting to me. Is that when they moved off brett farve. He had aaron. Rogers he was thirteen and three. He just turned thirty eight. He was a pro bowler. He has best era a decade. Just like erin did and they just said you're expensive in your needy and the whole thing in green bay is they look. They look to develop. It's almost a college team. And they look like what we develop farve. He's lost in atlanta kind of personally and we developed aaron rodgers who had to go to junior college and now a jordan love from utah state. This is this is what we do we develop. We don't we. Don't get the big free agents. Aaron and now your really expensive and we're doing the best we can but we can't get great players now. Maybe the conference championship. That's what we can do because green bay's not stupid. They know the more. You pay a quarterback. The less you can win can't win super bowl. Xliv expensive quarterback than ham hasn't happened in years has never been fifteen years very funny so just just look the story today on aaron rodgers they not real subtle. it looks like they're giving him bonuses. 'cause they don't wanna get trapped in two to three years with aaron's contract so this is funny so the bucks are going to now sign so the now yesterday donovan smith reached an agreement. Thirty two million dollar contract their left tackle so they have now signed. Chris godwin franchised him. Donovan smith schachter. Vantera david rob gronkowski Gronkowski ryan suck up a kicker and now in dhamma consumer's gonna get nine million a year. This is the most talented team tom. Brady's ever played on every go. Look at mock drafts. Go look at mock drafts. Every other team in the nfl is drafting for need. Even the well run teams like the colt nita speed receiver. The chiefs need an interior offensive. Lineman a tackle. Everybody's drafting for need except tampa. They're just drafting for depth. Literally people are like they're gonna take interior defensive linemen will they have dominated sue. Well they they. They need a linebacker. In case levante david dozen sign away. Did well y- outside a pass rusher. Burt signed to and donovan. Smith the old if you go back to the two thousand seven patriots. That randy moss tino and undefeated. They had eight pro bowler three on the offensive line now. They had randy moss but that wide receiving corps not close to campus. They had mike vrabel. But that linebacking corps in new england is not close to his athletic as tampa's well. They had vince wilford. They did but this defensive line is far greater as a unit then that defensive line the only area that new england team is better than the tampa team is offensive line and i would make a strong argument that the offensive line for tampa and the last two months was unbelievable. Alley marquette is a top three guard in the league ryan jensen to top six to seven center. Tristen worse right. Tackle looks like a pro bowler. That's the weak spot of tampa. This is the best team tom brady's ever played on. They are literally drafting for depth. And don't forget this. They got really good. After the bye and i kind of look at tampa. As two seasons there was the tom get signed. No preseason lot of turbulence kinda trying to fit arians offense with brady's offense and we all watched it on television. It was bumpy. They got crushed by the saints twice. They got beat by the bears. They're yelling the deter salata ugliness. Then the by hit. They got ten days a practice. They sewed it together. And from that point on eight and no and the average score was thirty four to nineteen and it was the number one offense in the nfl. They are literally drafting for depth. That is it so that by was like their preseason it. It's incredible right now. They're sacked differential after by was number one their winner number one their points for number one the point differential was number one their turnover differential is number two. That's the team coming back for pre-season next year that's the team entering this season. This this team is so stacked. And i will say this. The other break they get is the saints will be worse. Drew brees has gone. They had to shave cap. Green bay could not take their pro bowl center could not get him or. Jj watt probably not quite as good in the offensive line. They do a good job in green bay to develop offensive lines but probably won't be as good as would you lose the best center in the game or the second center. You're not going to be as good. Seattle's been noisiest hack. Dallas still can't figure out their defense. I mean this is. This is the best thing i've ever been. They're going to re-sign indominco sue and donovan. Smith got thirty one million. They're completely stacked be the weakness on this team. Last year was offensive line. It was dominant in the end of the year and secondary mostly because it was young. Also this is a franchise that drafts incredibly well. So you might as well put three or four more really talented guys on this roster while be short to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am pacific on fox sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. What's up everyone. 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Television karl malone was boring shawn kemp was riveting so shawn kemp became a big star and i had personal demons but like eighty percent of carl malone's points for free throws or a boring pick and roll. Same john stockton isaiah. Thomas was much more clever magic the big smile so if you look at the history of the nba who the biggest stars have been. It's not always been the best players at how they score. Magic johnson was so unique. Larry bird was the best shooting. Best passing forward in the history of the game when he arrived. Then it was michael. Who is glamorous. And good looking and cool. There's been a lot of great players shack steph curry. You become the face of the league. That's what zion williamson has janas kawai. Anthony davis chris paul. They'll give you a quiet. Twenty-six zayante is allowed twenty-five. It is memorable it is shawn kemp. It is allowed and right now last night. They beat the lakers. Zion's great you through sixty five games in the last forty years the only player that scored more points was michael jordan. He's literally getting into wilt and michael jordan territory and right now through sixty five games. He has more points than lebron did through sixty five games. He's got more rebounds than lebron. Do sixty five games got a higher field goal. Percents lebron dead. he's at a higher. Three point percentage then lebron and lebron pretty good lebron forty multiple times in his rookie year. So the way you play in the nba will determine a lot. It's not like that and soccer. It's not like that in baseball. Nobody cares get guys out win. Twenty games you win the cy young but basketball's not how do you score and frankly zaylon to me now that lebron's out for a month. He's the number one tv product. It's stephan him. Those are the guys. I rushed to a tv to watch. And there is a you get power. You get straight you get forcefulness you get you get all these really important things. All jammed into one had shawn kemp. Had a better personal life shawn kemp would have been a massive nba star for twenty years. But he had his personal foibles. And don't we all. But when i watched ion i mean his his critics now looks ridiculous is he is just must see television. He is the face of the league. That lebron's hurt. it's nothing against janas or a d. or chris. It's nothing against these guys. They're all great players or coli but they're not necessarily great television products and that in more than any league that matters be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern and pacific. I cry calls first things first now joining me as he does every wednesday brought to you by mercedes benz the best or nothing to the aaron rodgers story. Today's pretty interesting. Is that without confusing. The audience. they basically gave them a check and they they didn't want to rework it for cap space. We drafted a quarterback. And you know. They don't want to offend aaron. But i was saying this people forget that when farve when the packers moved off farve they were thirteen and three. They got nfc championship. He had his best year in a decade and he was pro bowler. That green bay is almost cynical toward money and start them. That's not what they do. They develop players. They take great. It's the mid west small town. Ethos your midwest guy and the kansas city that green bay doubles and triples down on it. And i look at an think. It's not hard to figure out here. They're moving off fairly fairly quickly. It's not a real debate right. Yeah and that's why despite nearly thirty uninterrupted years of farve and rogers they have been to three super bowls and one too because they have squandered and all they have been more worried about staying good then being great and rogers is going to continue to feel. Call it anxious if not a little paranoid. But it's not paranoid. If they're actually out to get you as long as jordan love on that roster colin and so. Listen if i were advising brian guten kunst. I would say listen. Man maybe jordan love is going to be the next aaron rodgers but more likely than not. He's just going to bounce around. The league is a friend starter. That's usually what happens with late. First round pick quarterbacks. Yeah so here's what you should do. You should trade him to a team. Like i don't know atlanta for their second round pick. You should use your first round. Pick and trade for odell beckham junior. You should go out and free agency. And i don't know. Bring back a guy like casey hayward or. You probably never should've let go to the chargers and you should go all in right now because you're twenty six and six the last two years. You're back to nfc championship games. And you're very close and it is over staying good is overrated and being great for a short period of time is underrated. Your beloved tampa bay box understand that they are mortgaging all of the mid one thousand nine hundred eighty s for the right now as they should the packers need. Take a page out of that book called. I was saying this to start to show. Is that i follow mock drafts. Everybody's into something right. And i follow him. Tampa's the only team that is not addressing a need there literally drafting for depth. People are like well defensive line. If it doesn't come back he is. I mean literally there. Just drafting for depth. Maybe a running back. I said this morning. The only new england team close to this with two thousand seven at eight pro bowlers. But three on the offensive line. This is the most talented teams ever played on. Honestly think that this morning. I understand why you'd think that i also think we are being a little reactionary to the super bowl. As opposed to the entirety of tampa's playoff run where they were up five points against washington in the fourth quarter and washington. Had the football against taylor heineke before heineke got hurt. They were in my opinion struggling. Mightily against the saints until drew brees really. Unfortunately in the final half of his career melted down and the packers had every opportunity to beat them. I respect and appreciate what tampa's doing. I think they're doing the right thing. I think they should be doubling down. But i also think you are relying on a lot of older and aging players particularly in the defensive side of the ball to get through another year as healthy as they did last year. I know vita got hurt and have the same level of production. So i'm not criticizing their off season but i think tampa is going to go into the year big time favorites to get back to and win the super bowl. And that's not a bad. I'm willing to make even those we sit here right now. At the end of march they do look loaded. And i've got to give jason light their gm credit. I didn't think they'd ever be able to keep all their top free agents and they've kept all their top free agents we'll see if they're interested in keeping ab. You know we were saying this that every year in the draft. There is a player in the nfl draft. That just doesn't look like a college player. Chase young just draft him quinton nelson. You can't draft a a guard. That high is the best garden the league by a second year. Kyle pits florida. Zion was like that. Zion didn't look like a college athlete zaylon. Nba most college kids. Come in. They get thinner because the travel the sleep that they're struggling to keep weight on young player. Zion like he's been in an nba weight room for fifteen years. Are you even a little surprised at how. Dominant a score. He's become a little. Listen you and i were as high on zion as anybody in any two people in america you and i both said when he was at duke he right at duke was a top twenty five. Nba just wasn't in the nba yet. And pardon me folks were worried about his weight. They were worried about all of this foolishness. Well he's just stronger and can jump higher than anybody. I've ever seen and that seems to be useful in the nba. I think he's going to be okay. What i am surprised about is that is scoring at this level at sixty percent from the field. We've never had him by the way the biggest criticism with the pelicans. And i like stan being gundy. But they need to have and brandon. Ingram had a really good game last night. Thirty six was good revenge. Game firming into the lakers. But they need to have a come to. Jesus moment and make sure brandon. Ingram knows this. Ain't your team man. Because i'm sick. I honestly. I'm sick of seeing zion williamson went nine for thirteen. He needs to be going twelve for twenty one. He only times you look at the box score. Zion had twenty six points on eleven. And so i'm a little surprised. They're not letting things run through him. More often and i think that's one of the reasons that they've had some late game failures and i'm also a little surprised that nobody has been able to slow him down like i thought he'd be a twenty point a game guy immediately. I didn't think it would be at what is record breaking efficiency so lebron second big injury three years. He is older. Maybe it's just a coincidence. But i've seen this before he does now it did. He doesn't have quite the stamina. The bubble was great for him. Four and a half months off. He looked like a completely different player. Defensively at the in the bubble last year he was more rest human. What do you make of the injury. How where does it sit with. You is the these sign of aids. That brady hasn't quite shown you. Oh if it would have been another soft tissue injury like the groin. Then i'd walked down that path with you more more readily this to me. Was you know a guy roles into his leg. You look at it. And i think in brandon marshall said this on monday. And he's right. I think for most guys. This is a torn. Acl if you look at his knee flexes. I think lebron was pretty lucky to get out of this with just a high ankle sprain. What it means for the lakers is when he comes back. They're going to be in seven three sight. And i don't know how much they care about. Standings they won the title last year with zero home game. So i don't think they have to worry about home court but they are going to have to grind at the end of the year because until he comes back with no lebron and no that's a bad roster but colin. Can i just throw something at you. I think you'll enjoy because you saw what happened. After he got hurt right right so he gets hurt and he has seven points at that point. He had scored ten points and one thousand thirty five consecutive games longest streak in nba history by a mile. They call timeout to take him out and me thanks. Lebron knew he had seven points and said guys. I think i've got one more shot in me. Because he went back in the game hit hit his one and only shot a corner three to get to ten points then they called another time out and now he's out a month so i'm not saying that was a higher degree of difficulty and more clutch shot than jordan's against utah. All i am saying is that was game six. That jordan did his. They were going to have a game seven. Even if you missed lebron was going to be streak over. It's been working on the streets since two thousand seven and any nails. So i'm just under saying this. Add that to the luggage bar. His suffers a second injury. Ever has the self awareness. I need to hit a three to get to ten point. I can do that even though. I basically have a broken leg. It's like tiger. The masters broken legs. I won't make that leela. But i think it is a fascinating point made by nick riders if what people are saying. I'm hearing what i'm here. I'm hearing it's more. It's like the ray allen shot michael jordan shot and lebron's three in the corner against the hawks in the second quarter in march. I think that's the list all right if that's how it lands for you. It makes me happy. Nick right first things first. Pleasure to see you buddy. I do appreciate it. One more herd the herd streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen. Live or on demand. Whenever you like. I think about that. When i think why alabama quarterbacks don't work to and aj mccarron jalen hurts was not considered a prospect when he was at alabama now he is out of in oklahoma. But here's a great example. This why all these great quarterbacks who signed with these ohio states these. Usc's and these alabama's don't become pros because it's not a real experience. You don't have to overcome. Think about this. Here's the colleges of the eight division winners quarterbacks last year for my radio audience wyoming miami of ohio. Texas tech old dominion cal. Texas am purdue and wisconsin not exactly football powers. Texas am thinks they are they're not wisconsin's good not great. That is where all by the way. The guy went to a junior college. The texas guy started as a wide receiver. Okay that's not random. That's not unique. That's the way the league works is if dak prescott go back Mississippi state terrible offensive line. Got the crap out of him for multiple years at matt ryan no. Nfl players. Philip rivers nc state. So when i look at mack. Jones never trailed in the second half of any game this year. Wide receivers three of them parole players offensive line best in the sport. I remember when matt liner came out of usc and he stayed in extra a year and a lot of people criticized. And they're oh my god. Why wouldn't you come out and you're giving up money you. Could you ever get back. And i remember. I remember talking about this on the air at the other place i was like i think he's got a better life like usc was so dominant. He rarely got hit. He was the big man on campus. There was no pro- nfl team in town. I'm like yeah i get. Why comes back. He's living the great looking kid. Dominating college football cover of magazines like why. Go out a year early to a terrible team. Go enjoy your college experience. Like i get it. When you play quarterback at alabama. It's a very enjoyable experience. You always lead. You always have the best coach. You always have the best or second best offensive line you never trail. There's rare crises. I just think. I don't think that's the way you get ready for the nfl. I just don't think it is. I think drew brees was overlooked in. Tom brady had to sit on the bench and it. Just i mean the last quarterback who was like a blue blood. That worked was peyton manning. Great in high school and college. Great in the nfl like it. Just it was all perfect. We knew he was going to be great. And he's great cam. Newton went to been junior college down in the south. That's just the way it works. So i do my questions with mac jones. It's now again if he goes and gets kyle shanahan. All bets are off or it gets bella check. All bets are off. We we know that he's going to have good offensive lines with those two coaches. But i do think there is something to be said for struggling early in your life and it being a great advantage later in life as a parent. I'm always like my kids. Have a better life than i did. And i think they do but i don't wanna i don't know i don't want him to every corner have crown. Molding and granite countertops. I want buy a new car. I'm gonna buy used car and you're gonna have to go to the shop and take yourself there and i don't know your first apartment complex out of college should not be beautiful. Mine wasn't it's like take out your own garbage. You know. I don't think grooving somebody's life it in the moment. It feels great. But it doesn't set you up for the hardships of life. And i don't think it sets you up for what the the nfl is. The nfl is hard. It is hard. It's hard on a good. I mean brady screaming at people. New england get open and alabama. Everybody's always wide open. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine. am pacific on fox. Sports radio one and the iheartradio app. What's up everyone. It's meet three times. Nfl all pro. Sean and i have a new sports. Podcast called the lights. Podcast with sean. Maria this podcast especially with me as i get a chance to talk some of the best ever done it on a field puerta traffic. 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Get a little older and they adapt and your team shoots a ton of threes and you could have easily said that. I'm gonna play my defense on a do what i do. I'm not gonna go to threes and you just went all in on threes. And when was the moment you decided. I gotta change my coaching offensively. We've been using more threes. But we have three really good shooters this year so we started out sued. A lot of the problem was we were shooting them. But we weren't making them so you know it was a struggle and then as we got a little longer in the season guys got healthier the cova pauses hurt us a little bit but we start. Make shots and you know. You're a lot better coach. Calm when that boggles the same charges but is is going in the basket. And it's good to be with you too. I haven't talked to you in a while. And i keep saying you picking against us so i you know. I think that's a good sign when you pick against us. Hey your son is great shooter. Now he's a better shooter. Dad was is. Let's be honest. He shoots the ball better than you did. Yes absolutely he's he's not a better player but that is funny. So you know it's interesting. I grew up college basketball syracuse. Georgetown the biggies the acc. The best team. I've seen so far in the tournament is little old gonzaga. You know mark few. He's one of your friends. How are they the best team in the country out of spokane. You know the best advice ever gave anybody in coaching was when mark was obviously do it. Very well five. Six seven years ago on we go on a nike trip together. And i told him i said look. You got one of the best jobs in the country. Don't leave the for what looks like a bigger job. And he's a mark figured out out of his own that he had a good job at now he's actually at a place that will attrac- a guy like jalen suggs that will attract a big name recruit and that's not bad and he can fish out the back door of his house up there adventure with a couple of times. He without a doubt. He's the best trout fisherman in college basketball coach. It's not even close by the way you you've played different teams. You just played west. Virginia and huggins is a hell of a coach and they trap in their difficult. So you're you're having a play. Different styles is there. This is an interesting year. We gonzaga looks like the best offensive team. Baylor's a good defensive team. Everybody else to me. Jim looks close. I can't pick the games this year. Every i mean to me. I've never seen a year or more. Smushed together is better for the fans because anything can happen now. Oregon state has proven that You know or roberts Us to some extent. I think that. I think there's a little bit of separate big separation between zog and that baylor probably close to them. But i think really when you watch right now. I think i don't know i think michigan still pretty good if they had the kid. That's live vers. I think they would. They'd be right that conversation but they're still very good because the kid weight transfer from our league wake forest proud is really good so i like them but the team. That's impressed me. The most in the term oil of chicago tough physical was the best second best third best team coming into this tournament and they didn't just beat They just it was an easy game. It was really not much of a contest game for loyola so they've been very impressive in this tournament and obviously oregon and usc the west coast is is really stepped up and anybody doubted them early. The year they they've been proven wrong. That's the great thing about this tournament. Sometimes when you're in a league and you're just beaten up teams in your league it. It doesn't necessarily mean you're leagues all that good. It just means that you've got a lot of teams that are good and they're beating each other but you don't have to wait to get this turn that and you see how leagues do and You know the pac twelve is obviously been the surprise league by far not and it's not even close so it's hard to evaluate. I've been evaluating players and tease my whole life. And i i laugh a little bit. When you know when pe- the evaluators out there saying this league is so much better than this league and you really can't tell until you get in the tournament and play other teams know during the year especially this year. You're just beating your own teams right so that doesn't be in leagues that good. It just means you're good on your league by the way they'll face houston a team. That doesn't have a huge brand but is very good. You are forty five years. No losing seasons you've coached. nba players. You still have great energy. When will jim boeheim no. Hey it's time for somebody else i'm done. When will you know the car. Drive home. the epiphany the moment when will you know. Hey i've done it blank years undone. I'm coach until i can't win anymore. I've said that for ten. Or fifteen years. I remember my ad along time ago. I was sixty several. You're gonna get out pretty soon aren't you. I mean thing. I was fifty eight. I'm not thinking about that. And i'm not thinking about it now. If we can win. I feel great. you know do a little work a little pilates has been good for me a little swimming. But i'm gonna coach. I mean warren buffett still goes to work every day doesn't it. Yeah and he's what ninety all he does is talk to people. All i do is talk to people. Let's all i do. I don't have to get out and digging digging a hole disc ditches. Or i don't have to run up and down the court. So if i can keep winning keep getting good players to come to syracuse. I feel like i'll coach for a while. You still do. I got a minute left. You like recruiting still. Yeah every is not bad. You meet a lot of good people and I haven't had a couple bad experiences. But no overall i learned a long time ago. If if you don't have good players you won't be in this business very long. So if you don't get out recruit you know you're not going to be in this business very long. Yeah it's what the late jerry tarquini and once told me he. Everybody complains about recruiting. He goes. I go go into stake for free and have a couple beers on the university. He's like it's not that bad. I gotta be honest with not a terrible living. He was a great guy to listen to for advice. The tar not many like him. I went out to dinner with them in vegas once. He drove in parked in the on. The sidewalk left his car. There he's in the car went inside a whatever left said. Thank you to everybody left. Got in his car drove home when he took a to go order from a five star restaurant. Jim pay they plan. That's funny all right when you get out to. La say hi once in a while and you know would we take you to dinner and hang out with a little bit not not a bad guy to hang out with so you're out here. I'm coming this summer. My son's work out there going to get to get faster and stronger. So i'm i'm coming out when i'm out there i'll definitely call you not be happy. I know you're not going to take me to dinner. But that's right syracuse and houston saturday. One of the good guys. Jim boeheim jim. Great senior coach. Thank you appreciate it. hi this is bill clinton. please join me on one. I tell him why. Am i telling you this. Why am i telling you. Why am i telling you this because it is your future on the line from listening to my relatives and neighbors around the kitchen table or at my grandfather's store. I learned that everyone has historic and everyone's story has value once. 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03/11/21 DPS Hour 2 Doug Gottlieb

The Dan Patrick Show

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03/11/21 DPS Hour 2 Doug Gottlieb

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Join me to dive down this rabbit hole and find out how the commodification motherhood is driving a lot of us to the edge of our sanity listened to under the influence with joe. Piazza on the iheartradio app. Or wherever you get your podcast. You are listening to the dan. Patrick show on fox sports radio our chew on this thursday dan in the dan. It's dan patrick. Show is duke in the tournament. They do enough to qualify. They got florida state coming up. Doug gottlieb on loan from fox. Sports will join us coming up. Also the undefeated guns aga- zags their head coach mark. Few will join us coming up a little bit later on with no nfl scouting combine. The pro days are going to get more coverage than ever this year the nfl network espn hungry for content. And they're probably gonna show you way too much of it but remember. This isn't real football when you watch a pro day. The combine is silly enough but to judge a quarterback a choreograph workout in shorts with nobody playing defense makes no sense this friday trae lance works out at north dakota state. This one carries a little extra weight here because lance only played in one game last season at didn't go that well but his tape from the previous two seasons pretty outstanding. And maybe there's some things that teams can learn from pro days. The scouting process was cut short because of the pandemic and teams weren't able to gather information the information that they usually need their on campus. They can find out a little bit more about these players. Just don't tell me their completion. Senate a throwing drill because it has nothing to do with real football. Yes mclovin. on that note. Monday we will have a full report on the statistics and the throw charts for trae. Lance is this from against the grain against grain. Scouts are in the field right now. I say that we will read the story. Also travis is running his forty today although i might be pronouncing it wrong. It's okay chon. Yeah yes boy. If a quarterback at a pro day goes eleven for eleven against no defenders. We'll be there if you don't go. Eleven for eleven then. I have concern unless you're teddy bridgewater and you're basically hit the gatorade table every threat and then you're unbelievably accurate in the nfl. I wanna know what you did in college. I want to know when you actually got in a game. Now when you're on on the field and the the cops with trae. Lance reminds me a lot of people who've lamar jackson went. Wow i thought better. Compromise have been donovan mcnabb. Maybe he gets. I'm dak prescott to yes he did. Yeah but i. Lamar jackson has incredible straight ahead. Speed here i think trae lance might be a more evolved quarterback as far as what he does then lamar jackson but lamar jackson. When it comes to running is going to hurt you now. Trae lancet wonderful athlete. Any might be coming into the nfl's better passer but this one is a little tricky because we love the unknown. And you have quarterbacks who accomplished an awful lot it feels like we know less about trae lance therefore teams will like him more than just in fields who we got to see for two years at ohio state. Welcome to the program already in progress. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com twitter. Handle it. dp show say good morning to peacock tv partner and fox. Sports carries our radio show. I heart radio as well are great radio affiliates around the country just this tweet nothing like getting cut a month after tearing your achilles for your team in the afc. Championship game eric. Fisher has been released by the kansas city chiefs. Ross goes on to say next time any of you wanna complain about players holding out honoring contracts etc. Do yourself a favor. And don't say goodbye to eric fisher. He's cut by the kansas city chiefs. Jerry jones had his press conference yesterday along with dak prescott. It was great. Jerry had a lot to say and all smiles. That's one of those where you just get that fake laughter. Everybody is laughing. And you could bet once. I would love to have known what jerry was saying with his son while they're dealing with the negotiations. Then how angry. They probably got. How dare him think that he can do this. Hold me up like this. But yesterday everything they said to each other was so funny here. Is jerry jones talking about paying for most anything. Adver been involved in that ended up being special over paid for every time to the end anytime. I've tried to get a bargain. I got just that it was a bargain in a lot of ways and not up to standard okay. Was that compliment with what he said. You know polling. I think that's a billionaire compliment. He's trying to say trying to say that the great things. I bought my life the things that turn out to be the gems like the cowboys which he got. He overpaid for the time. If you look back at the deal have turned out to be the billion dollar franchise. He's trying to complement dak prescott proper. Probably he's trying to complement himself. Yes what he's trying to complement his business acumen whilst complementing dak prescott. Yes because it sure. Sounds like you just called this quarterback over. I'm pretty sure he just called jack. Overpaid i- overpaid for you. You're already you're not worth the money right out of the signing get. You're already not worth the money. So he's overpaid. But i'm gonna compliment myself because whenever i- overpay i somehow make it better. Yes time i heard it as you know. He kind of ripped me off positive. Play out in the next three. Here's my favorite. I don't know exactly what jerry jones is saying. But he caught my attention about if you're going to get taken advantage of it. It's great that it's who did it. Impairs human breathing. That i've ever met that i'm proud that Took advantage of me financially. I'm proud it's one sitting to the right. Jerry got more laughs than you did at caroline's done so when the end of someone's laugh one more response from jerry about didn't want to be any place else. I knew that dak wanted to be here and really no place else. I knew that. And i think jack knew how good he fit here. Although i can understand his apprehension this was not a test of some sort of Can handle it or something like that that. That wasn't the case at all. I you put that laugh in there that allows sorry sorry about. You're right here's dak prescott. He always wanted to be a cowboy group. A dallas cowboy fan never in a million years imagined not being a cowboy once. I'll put on this uniform and put on the star through it all through the two years. I guess you can say or more There was never a slight doubt in my mind that i wouldn't wear this star for the rest of my life. You weren't gonna put a laughter. Yeah a. i. Overpaid you know. That's that's congress conference when hader was an attack took advantage of me. You all the breathing. People who have taken advantage of me are hysterical. They are they are that. Can you come over here and hand me that glass of water. Thank utah right there. You know that. I did not know. Be for the show. Look once you leave here. i never what you do. Flight to dallas came back social distance mask every washed my hair. everything's fine and exclusive. No i liked it. And and jerry hired you if your laughter because whenever jerry said something yesterday that it was funny what yes poll. I went back a few months ago. Listen to that bill hader interview because it's so damn good. He tells that story about schwarzenegger co weather's schnitzel remember that fritzy's got mike on the entire interview. Just laughing and laughing halfway you go back and watch it. Good nothing to distracting because your microphone was on at. It's a frightening rap sound. we'll just serve. No yeah but they could've used you yesterday because it was really funny yesterday. Really really funny but Jerry jones got his guy even though you overpaid for him and now the expectation level those are just not the words of someone. Happy down play. Play the overpay. I'd love to be overpaid. Like i don't want to be told i'm overpaid but i'd love to be overpaid. Here's so jerry. Most anything that i've ever been involved in that ended up being special over paid for every time the end anytime i've to get a bargain. I got just add lines and not up to standard yes. Todd couldn't say you get what you pay for and he deserves it. And i'm glad we can move forward from this just so many other things he could say it's a getting cute. Even tongue in cheek is taking a couple of shots. Then no i think he meant to compliment. He just didn't do a good job. I You know what this is a lot of money but by the time we're done this is going to seem like a bargain because dak is just that special of a player. Great thanks thanks owner. You now i really feel like you believe in me Instead i took advantage of you and you overpaid for me. Okay great bikes anything. That i've overpaid for has always proven to be a good bargain. Thank you yes mclovin one. If the question was what if the guy set him up to say that like you overpaid for dak prescott. Well anything is added alpha jerry. The question. I can't find the question anywhere by where i'm looking for busy. He introduced the word overpaid. That's a problem. Don't think jerry jerry's been around long time. I gonna let the media manipulate you and put words in your mouth. I find that like. Do you think you overpaid for dak prescott. No it's the going rate. I got my quarterback. I wanted to keep him here like you. Just because you say did you overpay well everything over for things. That are special okay. Yes time. Say you're worth anyone's interest said this many times you're worth what someone's willing to pay and there is this the end of it just not a ringing endorsement of eight. This guy's overpaid yeah mclovin. I've stuck on the super bowl expectation like they've been eight and eight for like eight years now. It's just gonna get them over the hump. No they actually were thirty and three. I'm sorry three years ago but it feels like it's gonna be tough for them. I don't know why yep in two thousand eighteen dak prescott made six hundred and thirty thousand dollars in two thousand nine hundred ninety two point one million dollars next year. He's make seventy five million just to put it in perspective. What his raises. You don't wanna put it that way. Overpaid well he was underpaid. He made a total in his first four years in the nfl. He made a three and a half million dollars in four seasons. Yeah i don't know what that's like that you go from one day. You're making this to the next day you're making that so want to find out and want to find out what that's like and does a guy like do really rich people have normal bank accounts like we have where you go online and check it and you can go to a debit machine. Does it go direct deposit seventy five million to exploitative accountants and i still think that he's got to get one of those big golf checks that he gets huge one. That's what jerry brought out yesterday. Ed mcmahon check. Yeah that huge one. And just have it there and jerry and deck and be standing there holding it. But yeah i'm gonna get. I remember asking mark cuban. Do you just go to the atm and check your bounds. You know couple of times a day. Do you do that. They what's a reasonable amount of money to keep in your bank account that say say you have one if i was a billionaire. Imagine i had like one. That's like my spending money account and then the rest of the stuff goes in other places right. What's a reasonable amount of money to keep in your pocket. Change account like oh. This is my debit card. There's a million dollars in. There is at one hundred thousand. Yeah but you have. Warren buffett who was just announced yesterday is worth one hundred billion dollars. I don't know. I always feel like the richer. Somebody is the less money they have on them like. I don't know. I got like ten ten dollars. I did that years ago with more. Cuban i said how much money you got on you. Hit eleven dollars. Yeah but he keeps it like a debit card in his pocket. Do just like everybody else. He's gotta go crap. I've got to go hit the atm. So i can park my car or whatever but he go do that. What do you think. Warren buffett has in his atm like when he goes to the atm. What do you think shows up for warren buffett. He's worth one hundred billion dollars. Jeff bezos what. What shows have you ever gone behind somebody and they leave their receipt and then you realize how much money they have savings account. If i'm bazo leaving my receive any time. I saw where his ex wife got married to a schoolteacher. Yes former school. Yes well jackpot. I don't know he might want to stay the schoolteacher. Like that's where you go have won the lottery. I'm gonna stay as a schoolteacher. He may not show up every friday. Now he's take. He may be a substitute teacher. After this i'll come in like you know one semester there all right doug godly will join us. We'll talk about college. Basketball is duke in kentucky goto. The nit also saw this. This was posed by quin cook. I don't know if he's still on the lakers. Maybe he just got released but he posed this on the internet yesterday and of course the internet went crazy. Who would win. And a two onto matchup between kevin durant and lebron versus larry. Bird and magic johnson. And i thought okay now i. I'm not on twitter. I was told about it. Kevin durant and lebron james versus magic. Johnson and larry bird. I think this is stupid because this takes magic is great when it's five on five if it's too onto larry in magic weren't great defenders. They're not going to be able to stop katie. And lebron and lebron katie can be good defenders. If you wanna make it interesting. How about larry. And michael jordan vs kevin durant and lebron james. Now we got something a little more interesting here because now you gotta deal with jordan and nobody's gonna stop short and now that frees up bird to be able to hit jumpers whatever he needs to do katie and lebron against you know magic and larry. That's that's not a good match up. And i would take k. And lebron but if you said. I put mike lynn there now. We got a conversation. But that's quinn cook. Who put that out there. He was with the lakers. I don't know if he's still was yesterday. He's expected to sign a ten day contract with cavs last. I saw oak. Okay yes mclovin. Can i put that up as the poll except put michael in there. I got i k. D. can overwhelm bird and michael. Barone awash jari. I know you don't want to jump into the debate. But i feel like katie can is going to be tough guard for birds but i mean katie. Is it tough guard for anybody. Yeah i've lebron michael kind of even each other out of their way. Maybe at their peaks. Well michael michael's on record is saying if lebron can go to his if you let him go to his right. You can't stop it. Like michael is said. That unstoppable if he if you let lebron go downhill going to his right. You're not gonna stop. It feels like mike if he goes to his. Right is unstoppable. If he goes to his left is unstoppable as well but that would make it a little more interesting. Magic might magic's brilliant is five on five. Now that's when he's a true weapon because my point guard at six nine for his awareness is unprecedented. But larry magic. I'd take lebron katie mclovin. Also our players better now than they were thirty years ago just by evolution of every sport there bigger stronger better trained. Larry didn't spend a million dollars on his body over his entire career. Maybe i'm here in listen on periods. Yes paulie but with not to break this down too much but are the players today. More condition just to jack shots from the outside not dribble drive body. People play one basketball. Nba was a one on one league back. Then it was remembered the two man game larry bird was living in that two man game like him and danny ainge would do that game and and you know. They were conditioned for that. But they're not just saying the style of basketball more conducive to one on one basketball in the eighties and it is now now. It's just deep jump shots but it feels like lebron is gonna get to the hoop no matter. Who's guarding him. He doesn't have to take jumpers. Katie is going to hit a jumper over. And whoever's guarded emmy hits a jumper over yes and that. Plus i feel like michael jordan would have a hard time style. That lebron does that turnaround jumper from far out. You know i mean. That's like trademark shot for him. I don't know how. I don't see how either one of those guys are stopping that anyway. Oh i want lebron taken. That shot i i would just have katie. Hit fifteen footers. Lebron go to now be a and you would win because let me. Lebron is so big. And mike's going to be able to body him. yeah mclovin. What if you had a steph curry and there's somebody who could take you forty feet out and sort of disrupt that kind of game because there's some like little guards who put isaiah thomas and nobody could cover embassies too fast. But he couldn't cover anyone. I don't know how that would screw everything up to onto tricky guys who understand it so well and then there are other guys like you. They throw the ball and then they go over to you and you're like no get away from me. Get over there. We don't need you over here. What are you doing by the way. Sign up for the newsletter. Dp show newsletter. And if you wanna be in our bracket to be on the newsletter and with that newsletter you get a wrap up today. Show every day. Monday through friday comes out at six eastern three pacific. You can sign up. Go to dan. Patrick dot com. Enter your email address box. It slides out bottom right corner. You're good to go also. There's t shirts. they're forcing. Well happy dan patrick's day. Yes paulie what do you have and this just in from a college basketball. Puerto jeff goodman he works for stadium do has had a positive cova test and will not play tonight in the acc tournament. Wow source told stadium and jeff goodman but okay what happens. This season over for duke. Well it would be a judgment call would you. They have to forfeit all. That's all he has right now. Duke has a positive kobe. Testing will not play tonight in the acc tournament. Well he goes on to say looks. Like season is over for the blue devil. They have to win this game. It feels like to get into the tournament yama club. There are thirteen and eleven. Yeah because there's a. There's a schedule here with these tournaments of getting all these games in everybody play before selection sunday. Doug gottlieb will join us coming up. We'll phone calls. We have our poll question. Mcclellan where we started out with. Does he have too many threes and seventy percent. Think yes I have a snarky lamarcus aldridge poll waiting. But maybe we should come up with some sort of poll will the tournament. Well i guess we can write the mafia and there's more information again. Let let let's kind of regroup here and figure out. The duke season is over here by. Who's the most boring player in the nba. With the other question. That's so mean. I can't do that. Lamarcus aldridge six eleven guy. Who doesn't come on. Let me take a break here. Twenty three after the hour. This is the dan. patrick show. Discover the discover credit card. And you're going to discover lot of the great things because you're going to get all the cash back that you weren't on your credit card at the end of your first shot medically discover matches that there's no limit it's crazy it's taught said how do they do. How how were they able to do. I don't know bankrupt. 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Gottlieb hosted the doug gottlieb show on fox sports radio fox. Sports college basketball analyst. Doug joining us from indianapolis as he's doing the big ten tournament on Campus radio recapping. What we just heard duke game against four state is not going to be played because somebody on the staff team has tested positive for covid. We don't know that but it feels like season is probably over. I'm wondering about the rest of the. Acc tournament here. Doug what what's going to happen here. I don't know. I mean you have to have contingency plans because you know you have contact tracing and then what happens with anyone else who came in contact with but what would you ask the question or they done done. I was just texting with jeff and the logic is again not contact tracing. Its somebody has positive test right. So that means there's the there's a there's a quarantining. And i'm andy where they moved all the big ten teams here and then the big ten teams that advanced determine are going to stay here for up to a month and of course they have the extra the tournament's going to start a day later you know again so that there's a little extra core in it's it becomes a bubble but i mean this is. This is part of the issue. I guess my question is this. I understand that for responders and senior citizens Need to get the vaccine. Why are we not back stating which somebody explained that Adams overcame out. So we're not gonna make our players get back stated i've talked. Nba coaches nba players. They are generally getting vaccinated. You know without without broadcasting. It just don't understand why we're going. We should go to all these leaks but if he hears something that people don't know so i i did the so con- conference two days ago three days ago and then the cia. The team that loses still has the test for five days season normally done like mercer mercer lost at unc. Greensboro testified days because if greensboro has positive tests greens. greens doesn't go mercer. Does go if they don't have uh uh tests it's it's it's just a wacky year. I was on the one year anniversary of sports down and here do is the biggest program in college basketball. Losing any chance of postseason because one positive did they need that win over florida state to get into the tournament. Yes yes. I mean look louisville helped but they had an initial bump their late in the season but it just it wasn't enough you know they're just they had sustained too many losses and people have to understand that the acc is really down this year. And i'm like look. It's really hard to tell a lot of things like louisville for example. They played wisconsin this year. With i think six or seven guys. But they didn't have four stars so they lost by fifty two wisconsin. This is around christmas time. It's hard to tell sometimes results who actually is good and then some of these teams have come out of two three weeks core team and they play a game and they're not really representative of. That's why i wanted to get. I wanted to come on and say a couple teams out there like oregon people should bet because they're gonna be massively under seated because all the litany of things that went on in their season but this obviously trump set how did do get here in. The first place dog feels like they had a top five recruiting class. Don't they have a top five recruiting class every year. Well you have to understand. It's it's different as a couple of things that went against. Okay i have you know the top three freshmen in the country right. sucks goes to jail. Suds goes to gonzaga. And then kate cunningham. Instead of going to north carolina or kentucky. He goes to oklahoma state. And then you at usc. Has evan mobile his dad's on staff and he goes to usc. So you cut out three of the top five top ten then you have three or four more who were going to college or maybe what. Jalen green for example and they go to the g. league night. So you basically cut out the top ten from kentucky and do then you factor in you know you lose your point guard You know you you lose your they. They're not taking the the depth of transfers and other people are taking And the just you. You don't replace. It's really hard when you can't replace stars with other stars and now the sudden your same places everybody else. And then you throw in the corner teeny and some of the stuff. And they're not alone. This is kentucky same thing. They made some made some bad choices in terms of who they've taken. But i think this is a big story in college basketball in the blue bloods normally feast on those top. Ten top fifteen guys now. They're recruiting fifteen to twenty five fifteen to fifty and those are good players but they're not the type impact players who come you know. They're not zion williams kate cunningham that jalen green not kids. I can just carry you to an ncaa tournament. They don't have those guys. And that's that's why kentucky's down that's like cancels down. That's why do is down. It's because the players were anything else. These teams that won't make being tournament. Can you see them going through the on it. I mean i would mean more basketball right like all these guys say like you know you go you g page. And their ball is life guys out all wanted to his hoop but the reality is probably not number last time kentucky you into the. It was a abject disaster you. It's like when an sec school gets left out of the college football playoff matches no shona bowl game in some guys opt out. I guess now against and people don't know it's at north. Texas super pit can have sixteen teams in a bubble. It actually pretty cool. But i would guess. He's doug gottlieb host to the doug gottlieb show and fox sports radio and of course covering the big ten tournament there. How many teams get in from the big ten all sprout. You all not indiana. Let's penn state and india do dan. I mean there's some indians bad man. They've lost a lot of games late. I don't know how you it's just weird though because you have. I was finished strong. I've seen michigan won the league but again michigan because of shutdown they didn't play at elinor played only once didn't have their best player in the house by illinois. But you've got this group minnesota. I don't think they're getting even one last night. But when a road game all year but they crushed michigan when they clayton place. There's this list. I you know my guess would be somewhere around seven edge and hat once you get once you get past. The big boys michigan state's getting in i think rightfully so. And i do think the ren overdue quarterback when helps course beat michigan near last game of the regular season helps the acc. The question to me. And i know. I live west coast and i'm by way. Thank you to let me fill in for you. Even though i know everybody complains Gerson you but i get a chance to see the west coast schools and the last has a couple of teams that really. Good like utah state and boise They buy patient belong in what i know about basketball played it and covered it like twenty years so i think it's going to be interesting because there is there's always been a slight east coast. Buys never been what his east coast by skies but because the west coast schools have gone through such difficult season with shutting down and not having their guys and not being able to practice. I mean stanford played like four home games all year. I know they got blown out last night by cow. They're terrible but the point is it was much harder to get the team to look right in the west coast. And i do think that there's a little bit better for the doubt that should go to a couple of those schools. Much wiggle room. Does john kerry have kentucky. I guess he on the seat or warm seat but do think like college basketball is a change in here right. Like you're to have to be more creative in recruiting recently taken players. That transferred up right. That's when you're the low mid major mid major some of hit some missed of. They're going to start have to be creative in terms and they're gonna have to do better player evaluations But you know like they took. Here's for example. They took us from modern day. High school in southern california. He could have been a high school senior this year so and obviously he's had a disappointing season but I so they have to do a better job. Evaluated point guard position. Better job Players but i also think that you're playing against older kids. The reason the big ten schools are better. As they have the highest industry you know they have older dudes. They're back so wisconsin has two guys starting. They're starting lineup. Twenty four years old like a twenty four year olds. Don't be better than one thousand nine hundred thousand nine hundred year old just kind of kind so i think some of it is the changing landscape of college basketball. How how hot is hot seat. I think you have another season like this one. This was a bad year. It's a bad year and next year. If he had another one of these would be like. Hey what are we doing here. Do you wanna rethink this. But you know he lost his as precursor to the nba. And maybe maybe everybody knew what was coming and this is what was coming. Not good and the g. league selecting is going to continue to take five or ten kids and more schools are going to hire parents siblings or whatever and the trends are here you gotta find a way to get old and stay old if you want. Win in college. Basketball are we. Making enough of gonzaga's undefeated regular season going undefeated now to the tournament. Should we be making more of it. A couple years ago So it has wichita state undefeated a couple of years ago. There's kind of a pair of the difference in gonzaga and wichita state is. They played some the big boys play. Baylor like they're supposed to but they played some big boy scrolling the year and they were so much better than kansas. It was it was silly. They have like three or four. Nba players couple. Do they only play like six or seven. They're really really good. I've been kind of plan with twitter all year. with the gonzaga or the field. And i think baylor's close. And i think michigan closed but there i mean i don't know if you saw the other night it play. Byu byu put up fifty. Three couldn't play better than first-half and and gonzaga's downshifted jalen sons just took over late at. They're good they're competitive. They have big. They're not great defensively but they have two point guards game intranet hart who's from canada started order for two years to plan to point so athletic ball handling down a problem shootings on a problem. They've been national champion game before like people think they're the only school to be in the five sweet. Sixteens gonzaga's legit. I don't think we're making a big enough deal because we do have a tendency to think of gonzaga's at abortion crying in the lost. Ucla can remember their one possession away from winning the national champs ago. They're the real deal and we're not because they play in the wc. But what's weird about. It is you and i have to remember thirty years ago. Unlv was in our weekly in the it was the pc. Aa was the big west. And i can't remember. I and nobody said anything about their league. Memphis was in conference usa. Nobody's we said a little bit about their league was about shooting. They were dominant in lesser leagues. And people didn't make didn't diminish their record because their league we do that about gonzaga. I'm not really sure why good to talk to you. There have fun. Play nice in indianapolis dunk. What why'd you only want to see. One video of my sons wet jump i. I can't fix my jump shot. I could fix my son's jumps. Doug's i doug sent me a video. He said all. I heard you ran on steph curry. So he sent me a video of his son in a. He's eleven years old a pickup game or some game. There and i didn't know it was your son because he made the three. That's what i thought. Was that that kind of surprised me a little bit. And then doug wants to send me another video and i go one video per day. Doug good canan maybe town but he's he does it. You're you're right. I mean like steph range thing is a real thing and it. it's changed the way you in coaching. Kids you look at. What's a good shot. What's a bad shot. And we were always taught. Like that's the thing about you're talking about larry bird i disagree with you. I row magic johnson. You forget how good he was back in dudes down like old school on one ball like backing down. Obviously the guys are more athletic now because the training that would be in their primes more competitive game than your you forget. How good lord. You don't be no no no. I'm just saying lebron k. D. can do what they wanna do on the floor. Magic's brilliant is still seeing the floor not necessarily being a great score the whole hold on the baby sky on it. I got it. But they larry couldn't guard me so now you're gonna guarding. He's garden k. d. I mean come on. That's not fair. If you said michael. And larry now we have a conversation doug magic and larry know now i'd take katie and lebron new and improved versions of each other. But i like the the the the point that i was trying to make is is that we we just people at chris. Mullin told me this like. They used to discourage people shooting three point. Somebody couldn't shoot it. By larry bird the volume of threes. Weren't there as you remember. He won the three point shooting contest without taking the jets jet. Wanting and said who's getting second shot blasts had the one finger in the air. What the court fight. So he could. There was a lot of things that he could do that. He wasn't encouraged to do the way we encourage them to do. Now because we learned how to work smarter not harder declaration data. You can send me another video of your son shooting today one per day. Now let me go to break. So i can get that. Thank you don. That's doug godly. Be working in indianapolis big ten tournament. 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The old has gone the newest here. Corinthians five seventeen now he does post this once a week. Usually once a week you'll give you a A bible verse. They're the old has gone the newest here okay. The old team has gone. The new team is here. The old bad blood is gone. New here yes bone dan. I'm gonna need to take a couple of days off in early. September to go to the bears home opener. Just things have changed my life. And i want to that. It's done deal that russ's saying that the basically this did yeah okay. Yeah make love. But if paul truly loved russell wilson as much as he says he would not wish that fade upon him of being. The bears quarterback I do have mixed feelings ruskin overcome the bears. Yeah i don't know what this means. We haven't heard anything else from russell wilson but Not oh it's the old tim. Tebow sound Going to leave that as is nothing else to see nothing else to say. Also wilson everything. Okay been kinda quiet though does russ have a press conference. 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Who paid the ultimate cost in search of spiritual awakening. Listen to a stray on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts dressed. The history of fashion as a production of iheartradio Over seven billion people in the world. We all have one thing in common every day. We all get dressed. Welcome to trust the history of fashion a podcast that explores who when of why we wear we are fashioned historians and your hosts april callaghan and cassidy zachary so in anticipation of a very special thursday episode dress listeners. We are taking you back to one of our very first episodes from season one and it was called silhouette and leotard of two men question. Mark where we first met the men behind the fashion at t n to silhouette and jules leotard and talk about a trip. Down memory lane casts. I mean our first season feels like it was ages ago. You know hundreds of episodes later you know Back when we recorded this episode. This is tyler. We actually used to rehearse before we we were. We were such perfectionists and have learned error of our ways for just a little more comfortable doing this for a little more comfortable doing this but we really did want it to be perfect for you dress listeners. And it's actually only been a few years since we recorded that episode. But i feel like we're meeting too much younger versions of ourselves. And we end the show of course grown a lot since this episode first aired but it is really fun to look back and remember what this formative period was like for us and also revisit things april like our dressed detective hats which we never made mind you and then of course in this episode. We also promised a future episode on claire mccardell which we still have not done. So that's going to have to come in the near future. We'll get right on it but until then Without further ado dress listeners. Put your dress. Detective hats on because together. We're all taking a trip back in time to the eighteenth nineteenth and twentieth centuries sit back. Enjoy this fashionable right after say. I think you'll agree with me that we've been having such a fantastic time on dressed thus far and it's largely thanks to all of our fantastic listeners. Tons of so much for your support. Yes we enjoy so-so so much hearing from you guys We've in lots of emails. We're starting to get a little bit of fan are just very exciting. And and what a my favorite listener emails that we've gotten recently was from dawn Who had listened to our elizabeth hawes episode and Emailed us to say that her husband. Chris immensely enjoys wearing kilts and he recognized that they are just simply more comfortable. So yeah keep on rockin. Those kilts chris. Yeah you're making elizabeth hawes very happy and katie roberson. Who sent us a wonderful picture of her doorbell. Daughter emmy wearing a dress to plastic. And it's actually something that emmy designed for earth week at her school so it's good to know that we have some budding fashion historians or designers out there and i can actually track my love for history and fashion back to around the time that i was emmys age. A couple of different things inspired me but one thing in particular. Was this video game. Surprisingly where in the world is carmen sandiego. Did you ever play in april. I did not. I think that sometimes you forget that i'm a little bit older than you or quite a bit older than you. I was probably sitting in art history. College class playing that video. So you're going to have to fill in. I mean. I do know in general like coca of the concept of carmen sandiego but like what's the background. Yeah it turned into tv show which was hilarious but so carmen sandiego is criminal. And she's one of many on this video game that you're supposed to be tracking down but as a kid. I kind of ended up wanting to be her. I thought was a total bad ass. She had this red hat and matching trenchcoat and she was really smart jumping throughout history and across continents and it was my job to track her down and in many ways. I think i am still actually looking for her. Well we did Talk about episodes. Go about my fantasy alter ego. Who is in the international couture thief so like hurrying harm and probably would have been friends. I'm guessing but in terms of you. And i guess lee you know we. We joke about this between ourselves. We are dressed detectives kind of bringing you the answers to questions about clothing that we all wear that people. Maybe didn't even know you had a question about right. I know and today we get to that. Because i wonder how many of our listeners have bought into the current trend for bodysuits also known as leotards or better yet who wore them and all their multicolored sequined glory in the eighties. Our cannot tell. But i'm definitely raising my hand and in fact just this week i wore leotard under a very slouch e. Eighty style dress awesome. My hat is up too because there's actually a very hilarious video out. There that exists of a five year old cassidy as a sheep and a pink leotard. And why were you dressed as sheep. Enquiring lines need. I don't know it was it. was the kindergarten. Play my best friend. Ashley oh the boy who cried wolf. Gotcha that's what it was. So i also we want to. You know we're talking about leotards. But we're also going to address this term in this episode silhouette silhouette can be known as both the outline of a dark figure against light background and also as a descriptive for the shape of fashion for any given period of history. We're all quite fluent in the terminology. That's used to describe the garments in our closets. Actually take the time to think twice about where these words come from. And the answer might surprise you. I mean i love etymology. Yeah wasn't it. Juliet who asks her romeo. What's in a name. Of course she says what's in a name that which we call a rose by any other name would smell sweet and that might be true juliette but as the unfolding plot of shakespeare's most famous tragedy reveals. The answer to your question is a bit more complicated chess a little bit. Yeah a lot can be at a name. A name or any word for that matter can be charged with a number of different meetings and connotations be historic feud that ultimately drove a pair of star crossed lovers to commit suicide or a history of cultural appropriation in our episode kashmir with a k a few weeks back we dealt into the incredibly complex and controversial history behind the introductions of the words kashmir and paisley into the english vocabulary and today we get to learn the origin stories of two more silhouette and leotard but unlike kashmir in paisley. These two fashion terms were not originally places on a map but men that is correct so just who were these guys and how do they become part of the fashion lexicon to find out. Cast and i put on our dress. Detective caps a. We should make some. That'd be fine of very stylish And we headed back in history. So over two hundred years ago across the atlantic for situated ourselves now and limos france where a boy named etienne to silhouette was born in seventeen zero nine. And i just want to interject here that love. The name aegean used to have an aquatic frog. Whose name was and he lived a really long time. He lived to be like ten back to realty in attempts father. Chevallier do silhouette was posted in the city as an administrator for the bourbon monarchy. And when i grew up he followed in his father's footsteps by studying finance and economics and actually went on to spend a year in london studying the british economy which she came to greatly admire. He admired it so much that he translated several british works on the subject into french and his work became so well known that in seventeen fifty nine at the age of forty nine. He was given the job of controller general. The minister in charge of managing the french government's finances so no small job. Yeah i don't know if. I would like to have all that pressure. I actually read them. One source that made him do pompadour who was Louis the fifteenth favorite mistress was in part responsible for getting attend the prestigious position. And the king at this time was very much in love with madame de pompadour. She was beautiful. She was intelligent and became a very highly valued adviser of his even after their love affair ended. She's bill held a very high position court a lot of power so much sway that in fact she was actually given official position as the thirteenth lady-in-waiting to the queen. Who was her. Lover's wife geek. That might have been a little awkward. But i guess maybe not. Yeah i mean. I think if you're a queen and europe at this time you knew that mr says we're just an expected part of your husband's life whether you agreed with it or not. Unfortunately they didn't have much say in the matter. Now that's a pompadour. Really was an incredible woman. She was a great patron of the arts and supported many of the philosophers of alignment and she was. Oh so fashionable. But i digress so yeah popular apparently new at yen either as a friend or perhaps she was admirers of his work but it said that she helps secure him this very important position but he was infra challenge from day one because france was in massive debt and they desperately needed money to keep financing the seven years war that was then in progress. Yeah so just an example of what was up against when he started his position and he did a forecast for the government budget for the year. Seventeen sixty the next year and it was not good so where there a projected income of two hundred eighty six million lifa for the country expenses were expected to be over five hundred million livre so almost double and there was a debt of almost one hundred million livre to it also attend to so i do not envy this man trying to tackle this no not at all in an effort to battle these huge discrepancies. He came up with a series of reforms to reduce the finances of the royal household and he also imposed a series of everyone's favorite taxes. I personally don't have an issue with the taxes that he imposed other people did take issue. Yeah i don't have a problem with it either. So he used the english methods. He so greatly admired as a guide and he proposed taxing. The rich there is just one. Small problem under the ancient regime nobility had previously been exempt from taxes. That's right exempt so needless to say this did not go over well and he was not exactly well light. He was greatly criticized for his taxes and his for galaxy trying to save money during wartime the totally unreasonable. I just don't know april. Despite all these extra measures he impose they were only projected to yield about fifty million livre so only half of the debt owed so he doesn't exactly convince people to come around his way of thinking and in november of seventeen fifty nine only eight months after being in his position. He was fired but he moved to the french coast. So don't feel too bad for him. He lived out the rest of his days and he died eight years later in seventeen. Sixty seven okay. So you're not to explain this to me because how did this very short lived french. Finance minister end up becoming this term or lent his name to the shape of fashion. Well silhouettes tenure might have been briefed but the distaste for him was not and so before when i said that ability was unhappy with him. That was an understatement. He was extremely disliked. He was so deeply unpopular and his thriftiness known and despise that the phrase alyssa wet came to be associated with anything that was inexpensive and or forced to be more economical. Yeah so silhouettes. Contemporary lewis abandoned mercy wonderful journalist and we have lots of fabulous primary source documentation from his hand During the eighteenth century he he put some insight into just how pervasive this term silhouette became years later. He wrote quote from then on everything took on the quote unquote silhouette look and his name. Quickly became ridiculous. Fashions acquired an air of roughness and shoddiness. That was quite intentional. Great coates had no pleats reaches. Had no pockets snuck boxes. Were made plain untreated wood. Portraits were drawn in profile on black paper following the line of shadow cast by a candle on a sheet of white paper and in this way the nation took its revenge and quote. Yeah and there. It is as mercy. It's too at tans. Last name was applied to any number of inexpensive are in an economical things and that included the increasingly popular and affordable art form of shadow portraiture. Yeah in shadow. Portraiture is exactly what it sounds like. the effect could be produced in any number of ways but the most traditional method consisted of tracing the subject shadow on a black backdrop. Cutting this image out and then pacing it onto a lighter. Background usually white But there are other methods which included painting directly on glass ivory plaster but there was also the quote unquote hollow method in. This used a negative image which was chased out of light-colored paper and then pace it on a dark background but these shades could range from anything from a simple trace of a profile of the subjects face to tracing their full body or even an entire scene that's complete inherited by multiple people multiple figures the tracing of shadows was certainly not new to the eighteenth century. In fact some sources. I read even credit. The first self portrait ever recorded in history to man named jesus from ancient egypt who traced his portrait on iraq onto which shadow had been projected by his campfire. Although legend has it that it was actually at the silhouette himself who helped to bring this type of portraiture into the mainstream because he too was in the habit of tracing shadows a journal article written tears after his death maintained quote. One of this noble gentleman's main pastimes consisted of tracing a line around the shadow of the face in order to see its profile set against the wall several rooms and his chateau had covered with drawings of this type known as silhouettes after the crater a name which has endured in quote in reality. I don't know how much attention himself had to do with the bringing this shadow portraiture into the mainstream If you consider the fact that in seventeen fifty eight so one year before a brief tenure as finance minister a woman in england by the name of dorothy bradshaw was known to have been creating highly detailed shadow ports in england these portraits were known as quote unquote shades or profiles before they were ever known as silhouettes but it was during a john's tenure that this form of portraiture gain traction as artistic practice and actually a profession yet and we have to remember that this is a pre photography era and so drawing or portraiture it was the only way to capture. Someone's likeness a person who wanted to share a representation of him or herself with someone say keepsake for a lover perhaps could commission a miniature portrait painter but this was really expensive these chateaux portraits on the other hand were very easy to produce accurate and cheap cheap. Apparently like essien so as mercy attest to it was easy to add the term alyssa wet to this increasingly popular inexpensive practice. The irony perhaps is that any association but the term with cheapness frugality lack of substance or the original ettienne himself has more or less now been lost And this has to do with the fact that it really developed into a viable artistic practice and profession. by the end of the eighteenth century the creators of these portrait's really skilled artisans. And the best of them could cut your likeness within a few minutes and by the beginning of the nineteenth century. Syllabus artists were established professionals and cities in france in great britain and in america and they were really kind of an expected presence at any sort of social gathering like a like a party or affair or even an outdoor cafe and many of them. These these slow at artists traveled extensively and they advertise their work in kind of like pop up shops and local news members when whatever city they were traveling to next yeah and while some artists you scissors scissors and paint to create these handmaid's silhouettes after seventeen. Eighty three other use mechanical devices that aim to create even greater precision and portraiture and this included the ideo graph the delineate her but also the physiognomy trace which could produce a person's likeness duplicate. Shot up portraiture. The popularity of it only increased as the nineteenth century progressed and one of the most famous artists was this man named agust edouart. He was born in france and seventeen eighty nine and he worked in france before travelling his services abroad taking a services abroad to england scotland in america and and he is said to have cut thousands of these portraits In his lifetime and many many of them exist in museums and private collections. All around the world that many of his most famous subjects included the british nobility and the american presidents proved at this art forum was actually embraced across social strata during the nineteenth century. Here's the perhaps it is. Thanks to the international success of august and other french chateau artists that helped popularize the use of the term silhouette outside of france because by the early nineteenth century silhouette was being used by both american and british artists but presumably to bring some french sophistication to their products. I mean i highly doubt they were aware of its original connotations with economy and thriftiness or the distaste for its namesake. That seems to all have been lost. shadow portraiture became so omnipresent throughout the nineteenth century. In fact that the black shaded figure so familiar that people began to use this term silhouette beyond its original context. In other words the word was applied to more than just a cutout likeness according to the historian and sociologist. George carello in his book the silhouette from the eighteenth century to the present day which is lovely. Love the spock He says quote although the meaning of the words. The wet had expanded the principles shaping bodily conjurers with all their linear characteristics and unique details remained paramount and quote so in other words. Basically what he's saying is this terms relationship to physicality and specifically the body remained central to. Its meany yes. So even a silhouette portraiture fell out of favor by the end of the nineteenth century things to the ability of photography which replaced it the term slow itself injured as a reference point for the body or the outline of the body and so by the early twentieth century. Silhouette have been officially co opted by the fashion industry but apron. I could not stop there. We had to know. When was the first time. 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We're super lucky as fascist store and so to have keyword searchable gives Like you know. The entire run of vogue harper's bazaar women's wear daily and thousands of other magazines. Books and newspapers are quite literally at our fingertips. Thanks to digitized online. And i just want to say it was not like this when i was in grad school You know you know back ye olden days a cave ten years ago and we actually had to sit there with the physical magazine and flip through page by page hoping that you were gonna find something on the topic that he were researching. But you might not. Wow so yeah. It's thanks to these digital databases that we can tell you quite certainly the first time. The term silhouette was used in. Vogue was in their june third 1893 issue in a story by charles edward barns which was called consecrated love and in it. He wrote quote pausing an instant. They're heard a whisper in the stillness and strange to say the iron door of the great kiln close and latch followed by the shuffle of feet as someone dancing on one foot with hasty mounting then i crept even to the edge just as tall silhouette of the soldier spurred into an open space and there met the wife seated imperiously end quote way. Are you reading from the same vogue magazine Yes and new vo when it launched wasn't like what we think of as a traditional fashion magazine when it first started it was more of a society magazine and it included articles on fashion. Because of course that's part and parcel to high-society but but really focused on society and the interests of new york's upper class and new york and american society the main focus on women's fashion. This didn't come until much later until around nights you know five when the magazine was purchased by conde mantras nast a think that a lot of our listeners are going to recognize that name conde nath. Yeah so while silhouette might have appeared in vogue magazine almost since its inception. It would be another ten years before it was. I used to describe the line and shape. Fashion an article. Nineteen oh three reads quote for use with one's white or transparent summer frock. There's no better solution than the white soak slips. Kurt dominating the lines of the outer skirt and irreprochable and cut and fit. The silhouette is the thing and must be acquired at whatever cost if one would present a modest figure but even after this for the next few years term is still used quite sparingly and without any regularity in the publication so vokes rival magazine. Harper's bazaar doesn't seem to have used the term silhouette in relation to fashion until sometime around nineteen eight and the term is still so novel to them at this time that they felt like they needed to put in quotations for their readers. An article from that year reads quote the word which every extremist in the matter of new attire maker aware is conjuring with and which figures in every headline in notes. Fashionable is the quote on quote. Silhouette it has a double meaning and french outlined his shadow but it also describes quite perfectly. The thin skinned directoire gowns which outlined the human and. that's where harper's bazaar ends quote so You listeners may remember that we discussed the debut of this high waisted directoire silhouette and our birth of the modern episode. An at that time it was this very entirely new shape and line fashion. And and what. Better way to describe it than a term that denoted just that you know the shape and the line of the figure aka the silhouette and so in this way silhouette proved itself to not only be the word used to describe the new lines and shape in fashion but to distinguished new fashions from the old and in a nineteen nineteen article entitled watcher silhouette vogue instructions to readers to pull out an old photo album and ask themselves. Don't you sometimes feel a little amused and startled by the pictures. Take for instance the silhouette he presented to the world some twenty years ago when just at the shoulder. Line you out into to balloon like affairs and then at the waistline went in like an hourglass only to bulge out again and a full flowing skirt. Andy remember the silhouette of ten years. Later when you or your hair and a large pompadour that flopped over your forehead and topped it with a larger hat. That flop still more but it would be a tragedy today. If one presented a silhouette those frankly of another period for several seasons we have had the same silhouette but those days are over. A fresh silhouette is coming. And by this time there is no going back. The silhouette was the shape fashion. By the nineteen twenties. The word was everywhere you know. Quote unquote the silhouette moves the two tiered silhouette the fluids silhouette the afternoon silhouette silhouette you'd get the general idea and while as fashion historians cast. And i do try to avoid the trap of decade. Ism saying like in general the thirties the forties fifties we all still have this habit of referencing and defining fashions of any given ever by the silhouette you know the the bustle silhouette of the eighteen. Seventy critical in silhouette of the eighteen fifties. You know conveniently. Artists have also tracked the progression of fashion history using these silhouette cutout figures so the word has really ended up becoming full circle except that it's never related to at sell away anymore. But i do have to wonder what he would make of all this. Yeah yeah especially when you see. The term silhouette being used in these. Very kind of niche instances like like an ad from nineteen twenty nine for the quote unquote cup for princess. Silhouette corset brassiere. I don't even know what that means. But i know there's a law going on there. I mean perhaps he would think coincidence. How could he ever guess his legacy continues in so many ways today. Yeah his haters efforts to disgrace. The poor guy actually ended up immortalizing him. It's pretty amazing. And next week it to meet another gentleman whose legacy continues to endure today. If we were to cut a solo wet out of our next subject literally trace his shadow despite being fully dressed he would appear to be naked very muscular butt naked nonetheless and that's because our next subjects legacy rests in the body clinging garment that became his signature and to this day bears his name. We're going to meet jules leotard born into loose france and eighteen forty. Two joe's training as an acrobat started at a very young age. His father was a gymnastic teacher and he had an indoor pool and so it was over this pool that jules began first experimenting with aerial acrobatics. And apparently there were skylights above this pool from which ropes were hung so that it could be opened and closed and this was a job that fell to the young leotard who used this opportunity to develop his athletic abilities and he was swinging from rope to rope over the pool and because he was above the pool and you know he could fall fairly safely if anything went wrong and he ended up becoming really really good at climbing these ropes and he got more and more daring and at some point he started working with a trapeze and developed an act and once he was confident enough with it he took it to the public and was almost immediately discovered By the circus director. Who is visiting from paris on november twelfth eighteen fifty nine the wondrous leotard debuted his gravity defying twelve minute aerial trapeze. Act at the cirque. Napoleon and audiences were transfixed. Now he didn't invent the trapeze but he is credited with inventing the flying trapeze and other words where before performance had worked on a stationary bar suspended above the ground jewels used multiple bars and reportedly as many as five and from what she would swing from bar to bar and sometimes you would even somersault from bar to bar. It was death defying and people loved. It has to i. I have another confession to make casts. Last couple of years i've actually taken up trapeze as a bit of a hobby. That is so cool. And i'm trust me. I'm like such a beginner. Some things that other people in the studio or doing. I'm like wow okay but i'm very proud of myself because i did recently. Nail my first blind catch congratulations. Thanks so what that means is if any of you aren't familiar with that terminology it means because of the nature of the trick that you're doing that you can't see your catcher until after you let go of the bar. They sounds tear in some serious faith. And let go and hope for the best and restore work over nets. It's going to be okay but this is this is. This is not about my early exploits. Let's get back to jewels because in eighteen sixty one jewels took his act to london. And he performed there to great acclaim at the alhambra music hall and he would continue to perform in london and across europe threw out eighteen sixties and he became known as the king of trapeze and he really elevated this practice of trapeze into a performance art. He did things that no other performance dared to do before him. At but of course many people would would would attempt to do them afterwards. Yes of course including one april. I'm not. I'm not at that level yet. Not even close in eighteen sixty seven a british songwriter by the name of george labor. N- wrote a song about jill's entitled the flying trapeze. But the song has to do with joel's aerial talents. And more to do what. Let's take a listen. The song was recorded in one thousand nine hundred eighty four by comedian. Walter o'keefe and we actually have a snippet of here today from the barroom peaceful below and one ninety mile ma. She blew him a kiss and she hollered draw the unknown unknowns up lear degrade the hang by. His nose is not that great fall please is on way. It's a little scratchy. But that last part says quote. His actions are graceful. All girls does he please my love he has purloined away so this song is about jewels stealing another dudes girl and she actually joins the circus and performs with him. And we don't know how much truth can be found in the song or the lyrics for the song but one could suspect that he was perhaps quite the ladies man because we know for sure that jewels had many female and also male admirers. Yeah just listened to this article from chambers's journal written in eighteen sixty one quote nothing can exceed the grace and elegance of leotards motions. No ballet dancing can compare with it for beauty when he has climbed the little ladder that leads from the springboard to the gallery and standing upon that elevation has the longest trap handed up to him. He presents a model for sculptor the mighty chest the muscular arms and wrists now he draws a long breath grasped the stirrups firmly and projects himself with a great impetus into space he swings right across the vast arena in quote but the author of the article does not stop there he rates surely never before were human muscles so schooled in eighteen ninety one twenty years after jones's death this same journal and i'm going to assume the same journalist Expounding on his ass perhaps a little bit of an obsession. I'm just going to throw that little crush. yeah quote. Jules leotard was a sponge specimen of manly beauty. A perfect figure united to a strikingly handsome. Face i get a kick out of this now. Yeah you know what this reminds me of. Have you seen My daguerreotype boyfriend. No if you haven't seen this yet please. Run don't walk. Is this amazing tumbler. Blog where people can submit old photos of hotties from history who. Yeah it's it's it's pretty incredible. I don't think it's active anymore. But the the whole database of it's still exists you know hadi's like jewels apparently Who liked to show off his assets to their full effect and he did so with this costume that he developed that fit him like a second skin revealing all of his highly toned muscles. This coster it leaves zero to the imagination if you get right. So yeah. I i get your drift. And i'm sure he probably did this. Partially intentionally to indulge the desires of his fans lut. This one piece knit garment was also actually developed by jules for a practical purpose and due to the nature of his performance. He really needed a costume. That's flexible and did not hinder any of his movements You know any kind of extra trimmings accessories or inflexible material could have been physically dangerous for him. So joel's called this garment myo which is Typically word in french used for swimsuit and no doubt he basis zayn on the swimsuits. He grew up wearing in his father's swimming pool and his myo range in style an color. It can be black sleeves us with shorts. It could be a white long sleeve or long leg. Two piece garment Over this two piece garment. He usually sometimes wore an extra pair of over shorts but in eighteen. Sixty two london morning post. The newspaper wrote quote. The great attraction continues to be the wondrous leotard who's trapeze performances have brought the species of entertainment into fashion. But little did they know that so too with the garment of this beloved reformer come into fashion women's fashion and we're gonna talk more about that after word from our sponsors this keegan michael key and welcome to drafted this. Podcast series follows to college basketball phoenix the explosive anthony edwards. Who start at the university of georgia. What's your album superstar and the university of kentucky's tyrus maxi arguably the most energetic hardest working player in the draft as draft my. I'm going to get drafted tonight. We still moving couches. This is their real life as it unfolds in real time and we're going even further behind the scenes with precedent access to their agents klutch sports group founder and ceo rich paul having draft going on and their head of basketball omar wilkes draft unlike any before. It's all a game of chess. Listen and follow on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Before is my was fashionable. It was practical adopted by ballerinas as part of their rehearsal unsolvable although april. I tried really hard. But i could not really track down win. This garment was adopted. Exactly by ballerinas. But it seems to have been somewhere around the turn of the century and this was a period when the standards of dance costume was becoming a little bit more relaxed navy. One of our listeners knows more about that. History would like to email us. Yes so decades. Later in the nineteen forties famous new york city for george balanchine would become famous for his so-called leotard. Ballet's because he wanted modern costume to accompany his modern ballets. He stripped the ballerina costume. It's typical pomp and circumstance and he brought the rehearsal costume to the stage but while balancing might have been one of the first to take the leotard from the rehearsal to the ballet stage. Who took it from hersal to women's fashion to find out we once again. Turn to those digitized archives. In harper's bazaar though i use of the word leotard appears in nineteen thirty-one for an ad for clothing for a company called nat lewis a white one piece garment. Shorts is illustrated next to the text quote to be worn under a white or pastel bathing. Suit the quote unquote leotard is in white jersey. The garment is very similar in style to that which jules leotard war. So i can see how the comparison would've been very very easy to make for the company. The direct connection to jules is further alluded to in the title of the garment as leotard. Which is in the ad. Both capitalized and also put in quotation marks. In one thousand nine hundred thirty three another version of a quote unquote leotard with a capital. L was presented by the california clothing firm. Hollywood silk mills later maps of hollywood and the company was owned by mr mrs barnes and mrs barnes whose stage name was maps. Right in was a dancer for metro goldwyn and she recognized the need for practical dancing tire and thus she invented a new type of underwear fit panties quote tight fitting pani which would not ride up or alongside her. We fit pani. The company also debuted the all in one leotard quote. This has the we at pani bottom and decidedly bando made in the various lasted constructions and gloves. It fits like a second skin and is particularly popular with stage and screen folk we fits and leotards are offered in white t rose pink and black and quote so mavs of hollywood would continue to promote its leotards into the nineteen sixties but their version was really meant to be worn as sort of undergarment so casts question for you which color of the week at leotard will you be having. I will take one of each. I think i didn't know that was an option. Because i was gonna say as your black as the obvious answer for me. The leotard appears to have made its way into mainstream fashion. That you could see not. An undergarment thinks to the visionary fashion editor of harper's bazaar and their editorial the leotard idea in january nineteen forty three so the article did not present any actual garments but in fact encouraged designers to create them quote. It's a new idea. Leading towards the twenty first century and the cosmic companion of flash gordon supergirl they wrote. It's an old idea based on every ballet designers traditional rehearsal costume. The two piece jersey leotard. That can be made in any color from black turquoise blue in quote and they gonna make suggestions on how it can be worn under a sleeveless shirt and evening slacks or skirt. Perhaps or how about leaving it. Unadorned adding under the leotard. You wear nothing ooh scandalous. I think i don't worry. They follow that up with or a gardener. Lewis panty girdle and brasier. Yeah and at least one designer answered the call and that was sportswear. Innovator and american fashion design pioneer claire. Mccardell who is one of my all time favorite designers and we promised to do an episode on her soon but mcardle created these two pieced long-sleeved and full laid leotards said appeared in harper's bazaar seven months later in an editorial entitled. It's something it says quote in january we tossed out the idea. A new sullaway based on the leotard. All the phone okay. You get what. I'm saying you at ten and joel's have finally met dressed listeners. Yeah so they're talking about the silhouette and the leotard in the same sentence. If only in the sentence they are two subjects of finally yeah and the article goes on to say it says in january. We tossed out an idea. A new silhouette based on the leotard or ballet school tights to new yorker ribbed us but fashion followed us and this month we present leotards for the college girl is something to feel the new atmosphere of college and address for it with timing and precision to be the first to where the leotard under your rule jersey jumper a silhouette new from the ground so new and bold was this idea of the leotard. That claire mccardell designs made the cover of life magazine the following month. Yeah and i have to say even the image itself. This photograph on the cover of life is pretty Bright forward thinking. It's time because one of the young models is wearing just the horizontal striped to piece leotard. All by in nineteen forty three all by an an and her her friend. That's in the photo with her. She she's wearing Underneath address the magazine wrote quote leotard is a new word fashioned parlance webster's unabridged. Dictionary defines it. As a short close fitting sleeveless garment cut low in the neck and in front and custody between the lakes it is worn by acrobats aerial performers. Although right like rights life magazine the description does not exactly fit the strange looking garments shown on the page and on the cover agreed life magazine. These versions of leotards definitely resemble long johns. But they do confirm to the body skimming ideals of jewel leotards leotards so however as the magazine also demonstrates another image other designers besides mcardle also creating garments closer to the webster's dictionary definition is resembling. What you and. I might call leotard today. After harper's bazaars leotard declaration vogue had reportedly completely ignored this new trend. The mademoiselle magazine did pick it up in fact. That magazine took it a step. Further hurting short leotards quote smooth a second skin and and these were supposed to be worn Beneath long or short skirts and the leotard was apparently still a relatively new phenomenon when over a decade later in nineteen fifty seven the daily mirror printed this small tidbit in a column called one. Is it quote. I have just read a report in a film magazine that quotes jayne mansfield. A saying i always wear leotard. Leotards are much more sexy than the all nude. The daily mirror goes onto say dive in the book boys and tell us what the heck is a leotard. That's hilarious. I love that it's still not like defined term in like almost by the nineteen sixties. Yeah so by the late fifties the early sixties the leotard has finally hit its stride coppee zeo the dance where company made leo tights and nineteen fifty-eight saying quote the offstage rage in leotards and tights sophisticated. Young ladies were wearing leotards under their slacks or their skirts and quote unquote. Youth quakers of the nineteen sixties. They adopted them for any number of body revealing ensembles and by this time the leotard had developed into the version that we most associate with today. The kind of like cut up over the hips skimming version. Which reminds me that while fashion has been experimenting with leotards and yet it also become a staple of athletic wear especially for gymnasts And and and they are probably the athletes moose associated with the leotard today the popularity of the leotard kind of came and went throughout the nineteen seventies but we can all probably guess the decade in which it had its heyday and i'm talking about the one thousand nine hundred eighty s. I mean because what was the what were the aid is without the leotard right. I mean who doesn't have the image of a blue or purple leotard wearing jane fonda impressed in their memories. For all time. I mean mine. Actually is irene cara and slash. Yes yes absolutely. The leotard was hot in one thousand. Nine hundred cosmopolitan declared leotards break loose any three page article. The magazine extolled leotards. It's endlessly diverse variety but always flattering and sheep with an exclamation point. You're ever versatile bodysuit assure starter. At the onset of this brand new decade anna comer for the rest of the eighties to designers such as norma kamali betsy johnson have taken the leotard outta that dusty locker and made it into sheikh day and nighttime wear and of course today as we're speaking the leotard trend is back or maybe. Did it ever really leave. I'm used as kind of been lingering although we all kind of refer them to it more as a body suit today but basically regardless of leotard has really proved itself to be this recurring trend. That doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon. and if it does for brief moment i have no doubt that it will be back so i guess i just realized we know. Now what became of vilnius hard cast. But what happened to the man. What happened to jules leotard. While sadly he met his untimely death at the age of twenty eight. Oh one of the stunts not actually surprisingly although he did have many brushes with death throughout his career. I many injuries but in the end it was a case of smallpox that he contracted while working in spain that secured his untimely end. So yeah he died. Far too young his legacy does indeed live on job leotard. As does that of at skin silhouette whether we realized it or not before we started this episode so that does it for us today but we do hope you consider both of these men's legacies next time you get dressed or images to company each week's episode checks out our instagram address underscore podcast and we love hearing from you so feel free to. Dms there or emails. That drastic media dot com. 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3 and Out - Bears Blow it; Flooded WR Market; Bigtime NFL TV Deal Bank $$$; Top Headlines; Mailbag

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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3 and Out - Bears Blow it; Flooded WR Market; Bigtime NFL TV Deal Bank $$$; Top Headlines; Mailbag

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What is going on every thursday afternoon. Happy march madness tournament. Listen to this. I put a little cash on santa barbara. Hope you enjoy the weekend. Also have some bets on the sony open. But i'm kind of a degenerate this podcast about the nfl football general people like. Why don't you ever talk football. i do we. We're gonna talk a ton about the draft absolute draft heavy coverage coming up. Really probably starting. I guess next week will probably still have some free agency stuff but moving forward. We'll do some draft. I'm gonna i think. I got a couple of guests lined up some draft angles that up some unique people. I don't like getting voices like million podcasts interview. a lot of people. I try to do different type interviews. I don't do very often here when i had blair walsh on. That was fantastic. Like us. don't hear kickers that often. I got one in the hopper. I think would be really cool especially come draft time. There would be a name that everyone would know. But i'm excited. It'll definitely happened. I was actually texting with them earlier this week. Nfl player former nfl player and had a very interesting career very famous guy though and obviously this week i'm going to dive into some bear. Seattle the nfl earlier today. I'm recording this little before. Dinnertime announced that they had a huge media. Deal hundred million dollars. Six hundred million dollars hundred billion dollars. Ten billion dollars a year as well. I just saw florio and pro. Football talk tweeted out that the nfl will go to seven games. Which i guess we knew it was likely but it's now basically unofficially official the wide receiver market right. Now is getting a little interesting little thing. We call supply and demand not ideal for wide receivers trying to get big money. And then i'll just bang off some things that just happened over the last couple of days. Okay let's get to the trade. That did not happen but became a big story this week. The bears and seattle. I'm going to start from the chicago angle. The thing that i like most about the business world. It's very black and white. You either get it done or you. don't you either. Land the big clients or you. Don't you either sell something or you don't. There is no grey area. You know we came close to doing this deal. Did you the deal now. We didn't you know we almost did. No one gives a shit. How often do you wherever you are. Talk to your boss your partner and go. You know what i i think. We got him in a week. Later you don't have them well. No one cares that you almost got. That's no one cares you either. You either land. Whoever you're going after as a business deal in the nfl players in free agency or you. Don't no one cares. And i see what the san francisco giants all the time. They always leak that we almost got bryce harper. We almost got this. No one cares. I mean honestly. We couldn't care less. And i know people are like well. What about transparency. For the fans two thousand twenty one. If russell wilson is available for trade twenty eight teams for colin trying to get them so we don't need transparency. He's fucking russell wilson. Of course the bears are trying to get them. but here's the problem for the bears. And here's what ryan pace. Let's face it isn't very good as being a general manager. I think it's safe to say he's over his head right now. Ryan pace went all in for russell wilson despite if he would have any commonsense realize why is pete carroll going to trade me russell wilson whether i'd give him seven picks khalil mack. Roquan smith and akiem hicks. Can kim hicks play. Quarterback for seattle can roquan smith play quarterback for seattle or any of my draft. Picks him quarterback. The answer is no no one. No so that i waste trying to offer all this stuff to seattle. If you if you understand the way ultimately the big picture of any deal out the answer is always going to be no and when you waste time. It'd be like if i was deeming nonstop. Kate up dinner cindy crawford trying to get them to go out with me and they never responded even if they did respond like liked. What of my comments. What what's the point in wasting my time. Something that is like. It's never going to happen unless i'm a dreamer at heart right. I dreamed in college. Like i didn't wanna do a normal job. I wanted to work in pro sports. And then i i got to the nfl. And then i got a radio show. I'm a big dreamer. I'm not anti dreaming bic. Trust me. I will always tell and hopefully my children one day i will promote dreaming. I think dreaming bring hope brings hope and can help you get you out of certain times right. But there is a point in time when you are running an nfl franchise when a dream of landing. Russell wilson you have to balance the the real realistic element of it. All you have nothing to give them like. Obviously they'd want your players but if they don't have a quarterback they're not gonna give you their hall of fame quarterback because who the hell is going to play quarterback for them peak sixty nine years old. He's trying to win so he spends all this time leaks to reporters how aggressive they are and ultimately the answer despite all the hoopla and social media and gabbay tried. They had lunch at the north dakota state pro day and he offered all these picks who who cares. The answer was no of course the answer was going to be no. And meanwhile when alternately they get the no answer in the middle of the week ryan fitzpatrick boom goes to washington. So you go well. Who's the best free agent bridge quarterback if you watch football last year. That patrick was dramatically. Better than andy dealt in. Here's the thing. With andy dalton. I hear this a lot. And i got nothing against him. Respected as game. When he was on the bengals he went to the playoffs. All the time with the bengals. In two thousand fifteen jack del. Rio's first year with the raiders. I was doing the raiders postgame. Meaning i went to every home game and the cool part about like working in the nfl working covering a team for a radio station. That has them you get there early. You go on the field before the game. I would get there several hours before the game. I would bullshit with assistant coaches. I would get some good scoop. And i would just kind of the fan in me. Loved watching warm ups. I spent a lotta time around the raiders. I watched ups for the other team. Whoever they were playing. I wanted to see their team. Come out of the tunnel. And i'll never forget that weekend. They opened up with the bengals. And i've been around the league at that time on a very personal basis like being around players and teams no one what it looks like about five at that point. That team came out of the tunnel. And i remember thinking holy shit. I don't know if this is the best looking team in the nfl physically. Just coming out of the tunnel getting off the bus. There can't be better looking teams in the league and five years later now. Six really having been around the league for over a decade still to this day that is physically one of the best looking teams i've ever seen andy dalton. Was the quarterback and those were the marvin lewis teams. That were really good. And that team destroyed. The raiders week. One ultimately went twelve and four. That team was stacked. Their offense of line was loaded a. J. green was in the peak of his powers. They had multiple running backs. They had tyler i for. They had a defensive line. Every single guy looked like alden smith mixed with. Jj watt. they were massive their. Db's were all sweet. So andy dalton had a lot of team success and he was solid. His team was loaded. If i would have put a good quarterback on that bengals team like the equivalent of like if i just have mixed the steelers and the rothlisberger boom boom in fifteen and fourteen and sixteen. Those bengals team might have one super bowl. So this notion that. Like all andy dalton success on the loaded teams. He didn't take some crappy team and get them date. He took teams with a league players at all positions and was a good game manager and to fans. And i had a couple of people like i love the transparency. Do you care. It's obvious they're going to be interested in russell wilson. It's clear like we don't need you know some league insider to be like you know what the bears he put them on their list. Of course they're talking. They were never going to say the trade was never going to happen. It had zero possibility for that. Place that trade to take place zero no matter he could offer them a hundred first round picks the entire roster chicago style. Pizza in half his coaching staff. People would've said no. You don't have a quarterback to give me so you waste all this time. He ends up with andy. Dalton lose out on fitzpatrick and now the bears fans pissed. Of course they are because in pro sports like in big business. No one cares if you came close to either get it done or don't but if you don't don't act like you came close 'cause you don't get credit the only thing really. You could argue in life that you get credit for for coming close or horseshoes and hand grenades. And that's not. What ryan pace job is joe manager. It's to land players eighteen land. Because of course he didn't he never was going to in. Let's go to the seattle element of this. Do i think they played the bears a little bit by leading them on probably a little because they were what could they have offered. But i think it's fair to say. I did a little digging this week of people in the know that not necessarily on seattle staff but people that work around people that have been on seattle staff and just are in the loop. It's pretty clear that seattle does not love the russell wilson drama. And whether that means they don't love russell wilson they do love the player. They love what he brings the franchise. They love winning. And obviously russell's a huge part of winning. Do they love. This caricature diva hollywood drama. Of course not despite pete being the most energetic outgoing coach prominently history in his late sixties style. When you look at pete's team at esi they were big. Ask kickers when you look at the teams that he won with early on seattle big game. They hit you in the mouth. It wasn't like hollywood. It was really like mike tyson. What russell's become is not really their ethos if russell wilson was not a quarterback. Let's say he was a corner jalen ramsey when he was in jacksonville. Let's say he was a safety like jamal adams when he was in new york and pulling this on their team he would be gone. They would have traded him. But i think as we see this playing out it's complicated. I don't think. Ideally they wanna deal with them but like what i said about the bears. The nfl is about two things for p. Carol wins and losses literally. Nothing else matters specially at his age. He's not rebuilding. He's not gonna reset the franchise. All he cares about in two thousand twenty one. We gotta get used to doing. The math on the seventeen game schedule is going like ten and seven or eleven and six. It's going to sound weird. I know but we gotta get used to it. He's trying to win. he's trying to get back to the playoffs. Actually know what he just did. He won the nfc west for probably like the fifth or sixth time. Maybe even seven. Time in his tenure. He's definitely going to try to do it again. And despite russell being a pain for him and having to deal with all this crap and listen. Do the teammates love him. Probably not he. By four gives pete the best chance to win the nfc west in make a run in the playoffs so until you can give him either star rookie back and we know who draft really high. None of those teams are on russell's list or a legit starting quarterback only one team on that list. The raiders have derek carr and doing some digging this week. I don't think that's necessarily going to happen though. We'll get to gruden a little later. Who knows he's liable to do anything at any moment. And if i was gruden i mean i. I don't think it's that crazy. I probably would do it. But if you told me that they could get derek and several ones i would say it has a decent chance to get done. But if the raiders aren't gonna play ball he's just gonna stay not because they necessarily want to keep them just because in this bottom line business when all they're trying to do is win football games russell by far gives them the best chance back to the bears. They had nothing to give pete defensive players which don't help when you don't have a quarterback because pico's hey ryan pace. I've been watching your team. You haven't really had a quarterback in mr bisky who's been average to below. You've had a great defense. Which i don't have here in seattle anymore and you've struggled to go eight. I don't wanna do that. You know what. I like doing winning eleven twelve games. Because that's what i do in russell's bend my quarterback while i do that so ryan pace in the bears but this is ryan pace. He's the boss now. Use your guy john. True nagy is the coach. He is not in charge of the roster. That's ryan pace box this russell situation and when i say box because he wasted time on something he was never going to do. I could. Dm cindy crawford all day. Long never dayton in seattle. They feel like they're just kinda stuck right now. Being stuck with russell. Wilson is not the worst problem to have. But i think we all can acknowledge if he was another position if he was like stefan digs he gone what happened. In minnesota they traced. It's easy to trade position. Players help khalil. Mack traded hasn't really worked out. But still it happens quarterbacks in the peak of their powers in their prime in their early thirties famers don't get traded. Why 'cause they're irreplaceable fox. Sports radio has the best sports. Talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at fox. Sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live can tell you. My friends linked in the new year's finally here marks a fresh start. 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Learn how you can turn frustration into satisfaction by visiting pay com dot com slash employees. That's pay com dot com slash employees. Okay let's get into the wide receiver market. And i know many people. I live in the suburbs. Most of my friends and families live in the suburbs. I'm actually playing golf tomorrow. In the bay area with a buddy who actually has a nice place in the city and a lot of people throughout the country leaving cities move into the burbs. So what does that do. When a lot of people were leaving area going to another area that drives the price up in the suburbs. Look around real estate right now. All around the country in nice suburbs in every state the housing market is high. Why is that. Because if i put a house on the market for five hundred grand in twenty people want the house you know what the house is not gonna sell four five hundred grand. You're probably gonna go for five fifty five seventy five basic supply demand when more people want something that's going to drive the price up basic economics learn about this high school. The nfl is no different. Why did trent williams get when he got resigned by the niners. Get so much freaking money. I'll tell you why because the chiefs desperately wanted him. They thought they had him as of wednesday morning. One team is trying to get a player. What does that do. It drives up his market. Because if you're gonna pay me a hundred bucks you like. Hey i'll pay you one hundred bucks and i go. Well you know the problem. Is i got billy over here willing to pay me two hundred you either have to say well take billy's money or here's two hundred and ten dollars that's the way business works. It's no different than football. It's why the average per year players always want more and you can't get more if you don't have multiple teams bidding for your services. Trent williams got a boatload of money. He's an elite player. that not just the chiefs. The colts the bears several teams were more than willing to give him huge cash. Why the niners gave him. Fifty five million dollars. Guaranteed twenty three million dollars a year also. He's plays in a position. The supply on tackles is not great. There aren't many trent williams walking around. How many human beings in this in your entire life have you ever seen. That are six four two six six three hundred to three hundred and twenty pounds and the best athletes in every room. they walk into. Let me tell you who those individuals are. The top tackles in the nfl. Trent williams lane. Johnson ronnie stanley. Back ari there aren't many of them last year. A lot of them came into the league. We'll see how many of them turn turn out to be good. Well what happened last year. God we've got a lot of good offensive tackles. They all went before pick thirteen. You ain't getting sweet tackles in the fourth round trent brown who's now back on the patriots. Who's a freak is an outlier in really. He felt that for because of question marks with work ethic personality and other stuff walking through the door. he doesn't look like most guys in the nfl. There aren't many good offensive lineman or you can find guards and centers. You can't find tackles. they do not exist. The reason they make the second most money behind quarterback same with pass rushers. There aren't many khalil. Max aaron donald walking this earth. You know what there are. There are a ton of wide receivers last couple years in the draft you. The worst player in the draft was production-wise of the top fifteen seventeen wide receivers taken last year. The first guy taken henry ruggs ceedee. Lamb justin jefferson brandon euch higgins. All these guys went after him. Think about the year before. Think about the second round wide receivers. Deebo samuel who's really good player was a major factor on the forty niners super bowl team. If the forty niners could do it over they would've taken decay metcalf brown. Those guys went late in the second round. So i'm an all free agency in the draft is is an economic exercise while you're trying to get the best players you're also factoring in your salary cap building your oster and the reason you're always having to pay pass rushers and tackles a ton of money a lot of them don't exist. They do not exist in the draft. But you know what does exist the draft sweet wide receivers in guys. I can get in the second round then ended up making a million dollars so juju smith. First thing i'd ask myself is the pittsburgh steelers one they want you to. They literally just replaced. Juju smith with a second round wide receiver. Name claypool so chase claypool. The year jews about to hit free agency. They take a second round pick. I'm looking up one day at my tv. Do four touchdowns physically. He looks better than juju smith. They would say he's a more talented player. I think the biggest problem for all these wide receivers is the influx the last three or four years and look. I don't think it's slowing down because you watch college football what's going on. All these spread teams hell alabama's producing wide receivers now and not just one every couple of years like an amari. Like a like a. julio. I'm talking every year. Multiple guys go in top fifteen. Lsu clemson ohio state tax. You just start going around the country. They're coming in waves and you know what they are. They're cheap if you ran a business and you had a guy on ran a solid small business and you were paying some dude two hundred grand. And he's like you know. I think i'm worth five hundred thousand dollars and you went well. I got this guy from harvard. Who actually can do everything you can do. And he's willing to work for eighty five thousand dollars. Do you know what you would do you go. You know what you know work somewhere else. Even get five hundred thousand dollars. I'm gonna take from harvard. Who's going to give me ninety percent of your production. Potentially more and i'm gonna pay less than half in that analogies bad because in the real football portion of this these guys want twelve thirteen fourteen million dollars. Well when i get chase claypool in the second round when i get deebo samuel in the second round when i get decay metcalf in the second round guys get contracts worth four years five million dollars. Total second round picks. I've been told this for years and it's just true if you just watch the league. Are i think third rounders can factor into this to are the best deals in football. Because you're getting guys that some would argue you realize immediately easily could have been first round picks for whatever reason they got dinged in the draft process. They go in the second round so you get a first round player. An immediate starter. Some of these guys turn pro bowls. You don't pay anything close to first round money and you can replace guys. They're hitting agency for huge cash for really cheap. So when you're building your team and you're paying your left tackle a of money. And you're paying your defensive lineman a lot of money. Your painter quarterback a lot of money. You say you know what juju smith good luck getting your twelve thirteen million dollars. We enjoyed paying you a million and let you go and we will now play chase. Claypool what you used to make and you can go attempt contract which again at the time recording this five fifteen on thursday afternoon. He has signed bet his mind. I'm gonna get fourteen fifteen million dollars. No one's offering them that now. Part of his deal might be some of the tiktok and again. That sounds stupid. But it's not stupid. He did the tiktok thing on thursday night football sunday night. Football played like shit. It became a big deal. And then my talk about. It comes with baggage allen robinson who i think we all view as a really good player and i've talked to people with the bears. He's good but he's not like a leak good. He's not worth seventeen million dollars. A year in an robinson's mind. he goes. We'll look at my production. Amari cooper last year got five years twenty million dollars a year and sixty million dollars guaranteed. Now i'd say jerry being jerry because allen ahmanson there's no world would i give you sixty million dollars guaranteed not. Because i don't think you're good. And even if i did not because i don't think you can be productive but because i can find out robinson in the second round and pay that guy a million dollars a year and pay my other positions that do cost a lot and most of those guys don't exist more money so just the wide receivers are learning the economics of the game and the influx of all. This young talent is working against him. Let's get some league business. And i'll start with this element of it. I've been saying for a while. I read it. I didn't predict this. I don't know people like you know at the jeff bezos number. Two told me. I don't pretend to know this. I read it in some way. I don't know some article online. That amazon was gonna get thursday night football. Because i heard colin say that thursday night. Football is a money loser. I think the amount of money you pay just can't make up. The money well amazon doesn't care. I was driving around recently. Maybe pick up dinner or something and like a night host on local radio like you know these apps. They're very complicated to use. And i've been thinking about this. He said it within the last week. And it's really been on top of my mind. And i went in two thousand. I think that's one of the dumbest things i've ever heard. I have comcast for cable the other day. My bill is like two hundred fifty dollars now. Part of it is i. I have all these extra boxes. Tv's in every room. I got multiple. Tv's in my main room. And i got internet. Because of what i do i have. I pay like seventy dollars extra for the high speed internet but like my bill and it'd be in two fifty should have been like to twenty now ultimately i write it off but it was just a principal. This is kind of crazy. So i called them and the first thing the lady says to me as we're going a guy he says to me is like you know do you. Do you really need the special movie channel. And i'm like you know. I've never heard of it. What channel number is it. Any says like five fifty. I'm thinking to myself. I have never ever been to the five hundred dollars on comcast because most of the main channels are in the seven. Hundred's mike now. I don't need it. Take it off and last night in the last couple of days. You know you go to amazon prime or netflix. You ever not miss anything. They constantly put everything right in front of you. what's trending. They have everything by category. There's no missing anything think. How many channels on comcast and i got every channel known to man except that movie channel. Now that discontinued i go to the same six or seven channels every fucking day right. I watch a couple. I watch some of the basic during the weekend. Abc nbc cbs. Mainly for sporting events. I watch us and sports and in golf channel and the food network. Hbo and showtime other than that like. I'm not venturing to a lot of channels now occasionally. You'll end up on tnt or whatever if you're watching a movie and your board but like the majority of channels. I'm not watching. And i don't even know don't even know exist. But i go to netflix or amazon. Prime it tells me immediately what's trending. What's new in. I'll never forget this year. When amazon prime had the had the saturday. Game niners cardinals. I'm interested to see how this looks. You go to amazon prime. It was not on normal television right. You couldn't get it on fox. You couldn't get it on cable. You had to watch it on amazon. Prime i'm pretty sure i definitely did. Maybe maybe could watch it on both. Maybe there was a trial run. And i went to amazon prime. And you press one button load in you sign in immediately. I mean you could. You could have binoculars from a hundred miles away. You would have been able to see this. Forty niners cardinals. You press a button. It literally started my mom once. I gave her my netflix account. Whenever i go to her house what is she watching not television. She watches netflix. So this radio host. But i think a lot of people think. This is an archaic way of thinking. It's very antiquated like. It's so complicated. These apps these apps are much more user friendly than television. You press two buttons and is there anything big anything important. They hit you over the head with it. I actually think. Tv difficult to find what the fox on like. I don't know where any channels you're beside the ones i'm used to going to but amazon. You're going to press one button so like house. My dad that seventy five gonna figure it out. I don't know load amazon prime on a smart tv show him you hit load boom boom and it's on. It's no different than going. Boom boom to another channel. I i actually think there's going to be a lot of blowback we're going to be. I can't believe they're amazon. Prime those guys are just complainers. Because the actual functionality of it could not be any easier. I mean honestly it really couldn't and i'm the only reason i alone on basic cable is just because it's probably partially laziness in partially economic. It's not like i. I my home business. It's all integrated so it's basically it'd be no different than having cable your office. It doesn't matter but it doesn't pencil and part of it couple my. Tv's in my living room. When i moved here. I put multiple. Tv's up they're not newer. tv's sixteen. so i'd have to go buy new tvs and these. Tv's are fine. Sixty five seventy years. I don't even want to deal with it. I don't even care. But it. I i am actually doing it. The hard way right now. I people used to always tell me about fire. Fox fire stick and apple tv once you start playing around with the like god. These are easy. I mean netflix prime. They could not be an easier. So of course delete. Obviously the league wanted to go there for money. But i think just the easy for the consumer's gonna find is like yeah won't be a problem at all. The other thing is a seventeen game season and i did not know this but member. They used to play fourteen games and they move that from one thousand nine hundred seventy eight. Here's a crazy part. They used to play six preseason games they like for whatever reason the number twenty and obviously for the last one thousand nine hundred seventy eight till two thousand and twenty one not counting the corona here. They always played four preseason games. They like get into the twenty right sixteen. Four florio wrote that you know there's a decent play seventeen regular season games in three preseason games because it all to gives them ability to go to eight teen regular season games one day but that's a whole nother conversation two things really stand out to me about adding a game because adding a game week is a big deal. I'm telling you mentioned earlier. We're going to have to get very used to like if i tell you. You're listening to podcasts. You're probably an nfl fan. What a team's record was. I'm like the only four games like dan. They went four and twelve. They were average. They went five hundred. They went eight. Nate god they had a powerhouse team. They want fifteen games like dan. They went in one. It's now fifteen in two or sixteen one or seven and ten seven and ten sounds a lot worse than seven and nine. Some people kept their jobs. Seven nine. I don't know if you're keeping your job. Seven and ten ten and seven also. Doesn't it sound quite as good as ten six. I always thought fifteen in one suite. Fourteen to sounds really good to fourteen to three. Yes still excellent. Quite as good as fourteen into but he's do things stand out to me. Coaching is going to be even more important. And i don't just mean scheme we'll get into kyle along a little bit later but one thing coach. Reid is fantastic with and he was like this. I remember reading when he first got to kansas city with tom. Bali and justin houston to and. I'm sure we'll jamaal charles. Some of his older players he does not. You don't need to prove to him. In the middle of the season in a wednesday practice he has no problem. Veteran players established players wednesday off. Hell seventeen games. Might give them wednesday and thursday off. Lebron james doesn't practice. He doesn't need to you. Know he works out on his own. He's ready to go. When the games go tombali the end of his career like just get them. Ready for sunday coaches that understand the big picture and then are living in the minutia of it to be interested in matt. Rule urban meyer. It's going to be. Can you imagine matt. Rural and urban meyer. At least about rule got a year under his belt urban going from always playing thirteen or fourteen games to now going to seventeen plus three preseason games but seventeen games that actually count. That's a lot man. Does he understand like you can't really work on wednesday. I don't i don't know i urge the smart guy but that's a big transition so to me. The coaching the big picture element of coaching like with. Gm's you gotta think big picture right. How i'm building my team. Why am drafting. Everyone's shit on the jones contract. Why did we draft. Aj dylan because it'll jamaal williams walk. I mean that's why. Ag dylan's for the best player on their board. Ever heard of it like you can't have bpa but then nitpick certain positions. They resign aaron jones because he's an elite player. He's there alvin alvin kamara. They paid them is basically to your twenty dollar contract for their second. Best offensive player. Last time i checked they got davante adams. They don't have much else. Young tight ends pretty good. But you get rid of jamaal williams and and aaron jones then you got nothing like. They've separated themselves. They went twenty six games last two years. 'cause they dominated on the ground. That's how this offense works now. You can say you should be able to find running backs easily. That's true but aaron jones proved his worth. He's a borderline elite player. He's awesome but back to the coaching thing. Coaches the get coaches with experience are going to have a huge leg up the other thing. That's going to be key is depth. And i've always said i don't think late round picks her overvalued i think we hide them up a little much. I do think the. Gm's are better at finding undrafted. Free agents and are hitting on fifth sixth and seventh round picks over the next several years are going to have a better chance to win twelve thirteen games. We know guys get hurt. It's football there's just. It's a war of attrition. every year linemen linebackers wide receivers running backs. They go down for portions of the season. Luckily the nfl has changed the injured reserve rules. You're able to play skies and take them off but one thing will injuries are not going to go away and if anything the seventeen games you just have one more game to get injured. So the teams that have the most depth develop players the best that are best at using their practice squad to get guys ready to play. An actual games are going to have a huge advantage and i think it will play itself out over the next couple years. And you'll see teams. Obviously it's quarterback league and head coaching league but that that's get you to ten key to the difference between ten and thirteen and fourteen is depth and amick coaching aspect of it. So it's going to get a little more interesting. i. I'm telling you. I think getting used to the numbers. The wreckers is going to be a going to be a work in progress for us. All you'd be like ours were six and six. You still got you know. You're you got twelve games in. You still got five left. There's a big difference like nine nine eight. Nine and eight sounds a lot. Better eight nine support for this. Podcast comes from cdw. Enciso modern modernization. Today has the products you need to modernize your workplace like wifi booster crystals but their metaphysical powers enhanced connectivity and spiritually awakened your internet of things at. Cdw we get crystals won't modernize your network. You need cisco catalyst access points that are why compatible that can help you improve. 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I actually just saw this segment. S- the bears have granted. Akeem hicks the opportunity to seek a trade. He's making ten million dollars. He wants a lot more. Here's the issue right now. I got back to ryan pace. The only reason you're team has been good or competitive last couple years is your defense in. He argued was better than khalil mack. Last year. he's one of the key guys. Like your offense sucks. Andy dalton has your quarterback. You need good defensive players. What are you doing i i. I can't overemphasize enough. I think ryan pace just lost. I don't think he gets it. I really don't jon gruden. Younger is nuts. he's crazy no rhyme or reason. Anything he does. I've talked a lot about them in the last couple of weeks. I'm not gonna spend too much time here. But yeah i just. I backed like ryan pace. The strength of the raiders last year was the offensive line. So what do they do. They rent rodney hudson. They get rid of gabe jackson and they trade trent brown now. Trent brown been an issue. I don't blame them for getting rid of him. But you're gardner center like what trying to do buddy. You ain't winning with defense defensive roster you'll stink. You had a power running game because those two guys are fucking bee's you get rid of both of them because you like you're young center that no one's heard of good luck jon. Gruden has been an unmitigated disaster. Now maybe not exasperating. Makes them relevant about him. But from a football standpoint holy moly. What a nightmare deshaun watson and some of his legal troubles me and guy my other. Podcasts talked a lot about it. So you can go there if you want to. Listen to my take on watson and the situation. That is getting kind of weird tech. Speaking of the texans they send a lot of dues. Tyrod taylor mark ingram saw. They signed desmond king today. Not really sure what they're doing like they're not any good to sean. If this legal trouble gets behind them they're able to trade him. They're gonna stink. I mean they are going to be really really bad. It's going to get really really ugly there from the fan base from the perception. I don't even it's going to be bad. Washington football team ryan fitzpatrick. Talked about this on the last podcast or not. But i know i talked about this with guy. I saw a lot of people in the internet. Being like a you know what what's doing all this for two to come in third again in the division coming third again. The miami dolphins one ten games last year. I watched the miami. I watched a lot of dolphins games last year. One game i remember when they came to san francisco and ryan fitzpatrick dan freakin marino. They did not win games because of tonga by lower. They had the bench him multiple times. A major reason why they were winning. Games is no longer on their team and he happens to be the most important position on your squad. So how do. I just assume that the dolphins are like yeah. There'd be good. I don't know the to. I saw your pretty big red flack now maybe to a was coming back from the injury and he's just shelve himself and he'll be way better. We'll see because he small doesn't have a great arm. I thought colin had a pretty good verbiage. Verbiage on 'em call them robotic. I think there's a little robotic now. They signed fuller. He is a great deep. Throw or so you get him a deep threat. But i don't know. The patriots went seven and nine with zero talent. If i gave the patriots. Adam grace or just some random coach. They won one game. You don't think bella check is gonna be dramatically better with all. His talent put down the pipe but washington scientists. Patrick which is a good signing. I mean he's just a hot and cold guy but he has some talent. He's just kind of a gamer kind of gunslinger. They have a big time defense. They signed taylor heineke. And the just resigned cal allen. I think it's fair to say. They're not drafting very high because they made the playoffs. That's probably the quarterback unit and they go. We probably make another wildcard or compete for a wildcard with ed group. Maybe they're right. Maybe the wrong. They didn't really have any options. Don't totally blame them. But i like the fitzpatrick. Signing i think the washington football team i think divisions going to be pretty bad again. You get to eight and eight. You have a chance to win that division cowboys defense. Terrible eagles have. I mean they're just resetting the franchise the giants. I mean i don't know. I mean i kind of like daniel jones talent but they don't really have a skill guys. Their offensive line stinks. Their defense is solid. I think joe judge pretty good. Obviously the draft will impact these teams. But i don't. I don't see why the wash football team can win that division again. If it's patrick. Plays exactly like did with washington or excuse me the dolphins and remember the dolphins who's their talent on offense know they were not. Oj mcduffie wasn't walking through that door. They didn't ever ricky williams team. That's why when to a guide in there. He was overwhelmed. He wasn't used to having no town around him. He's like where's jerry jeudy. Where's henry ruggs nausea harris whereas oj. Howard where's They have so many wide receivers. Where's jalen waddell bank. They're cow long went to the chiefs and he gave a great quote about the raiders. Things it feels a little different with. Jesus basically like giving a shot at the raiders. I bought the exact quote but of course he went to the chiefs. They patrick mahomes chance of went. Super bowl mike. Why would he sign with. The raiders will fuller i. I think i mentioned that the dolphins at a browns fan very mad at me that i did not mention the rams safety johnson that signed with them. I'm sorry good player. You guys are solid team all got. I don't really have much more. I think me good. I think the. Afc's really good right. I think the bills are powerhouse. The chiefs are powerhouse. Think the patriots are going to be a factor. I think the browns are going to be a factor. The ravens are going to be awesome because they just always are in the regular season. The culture going to be good. The titans will be solid. The chargers if their coaches any good should be decent the afc. It's i think it's gonna take probably ten seven member gotta get to those new new numbers ten and seven to make the playoffs. That's about all i got. A cow fuller was also cut from the bears back to pay. Why do you keep cutting all your good players. Your defense team don't get it okay. Middlekauff mailbag and also got to remind everybody. Leave a review apple. Itunes would greatly appreciate it a lot of you have. I think we're almost two thousand reviews. So that's good for the business. Middlekauff mail bag middlekauff. You guys know the drill. Jt question for the mailbox. If you had to find some way to make sense of the raiders for an office moves. How do you do so. It looks like gruden almost intentionally damaging the team. I think it's pretty simple. I just think john. I see a lot of people that mike all gruden ruining the team. Come on guys like mike. Mac answers to jon gruden. We've all had bosses. I would never in a million years. If pat hill howie roseman andy. Reid wanted to do something held jason barrett who hired me from. Espn at the radio show. He was from espn. He work with dan. Patrick and ran the station in san francisco when they said something i listened. I did it now. I wasn't i think sometimes was he. Head coach like they're on equal footing. That's not the way it is jon. Gruden ten million dollars a year. Mike probably makes too. But john has all the power. John has the decision making ability. I don't i don't really know what to say. I just think john is a madman. A wild man and it's just. I don't think he has the ability to be patient. And patience is virtue and a virtue never hurts you. Listen i. I'm not that patient either. I imagine many people listening aren't patient. There are times when it's like you know. I really want to buy a stock and it's up a thousand percent. Maybe i'll wait till it comes down. I really want this player. Well maybe way today the players still going to be available right. I really guy's pissed me off. cut him. let's just take a deep breath. Let's see if you and rodney hudson get on the same page. You don't always the first thing that comes to your mind. My daddy's telling me this all the time like john. The always say the first thing that comes to your mind now. This was when. I was like ten. Because i talk a lot i. I didn't know that a time. I turn into a career just talking but sometimes like your i take a deep breath. How often have you with your significant other. Your wife or girlfriend for girls listening. Not many. i've seen the demos were ninety. Nine point nine percent male guy when you guys have a big fight like sometimes just go your separate rooms take a deep breath just everyone take five or six hours to yourself. I don't think do that he is. He is very very impulsive. Is everyone being a little hard on. Dalton it's not. It's not his fault teams. Keep giving money. i agree there. He took the bengals. The playoffs talked about it earlier. I know he flopped in the playoffs few times but everyone with an outlet is treating him like the village idiot. Still that phrase from you. I don't think they call it in the village idiot and smart guy. And he's an impressive guy. If andy was your neighbor right to be andy's neighbors made a lot of money. You have to have a big ass house on a country club. You'd probably like hanging with him. He'd probably be funded drink beers with and like talk about football with. He's just not very good at this point in time. He was better when he was younger. But i'm with you like yeah. It's it is not his fault. I say this about david. Kelly and jim. Tom sue all the time. It is not jim thome suicide. He became a head coach. What was he supposed to do. Hey you want a three year deal five million dollars a year. say no it. Was trent bulky. And jet york's fall. It was not jim. Tom sue fault like david. Kelly like listen. That's more personal than me. Because i was around him. I'm sure he's going to get made fun of a lot when their team really stinks. It is not his fault. He's the head coach. he was sixty five years old. He had the opportunity to become a head coach in the nfl. If he's awful. Which i hate to say it. But he might be because he's never been a head coach. Sixty five pretty random. That's under caserio. That's on jack easterby like you. That's on the guy that hires you. You've never heard a bad word about. I'm with you. No one thinks. Like andy dalton. A bad person or you wouldn't want him on my team as my backup quarterback we. We applauded last year when the cowboys made him the backup quarterback while i think trevor lawrence is going to be great. Why wouldn't the jags trade out. For approving quarterback wilson watson and a boatload of picks. Wouldn't that get them. The super bowl. Faster for madame true. Both those guys have no trade clauses and russell wilson and ciara would rather swan dive off the golden gate bridge into the ocean. Then go play for the jets. I'll promise you that and shawn watson they would never trade him in the division and he has no drake laws too so would never see us. But i hear you. I mean i think urban meyer might if it was an option. Been listening to the shell for about a year. Now big fan of the show and i appreciate your take a couple of questions for you after. Listen the first show this week. One instead of pursuing a path in broadcasting. How successful do you think a guy like drew brees would be if he pursued a coordinator job after spending so many years in the league learning how to attack different defenses. My first reaction would be. He would be very successful. Do you agree. Or would it be different if he were implementing his own system instead of using the template provided by. Sean payton i think he would you. Sean payton system. Because it's what he excels at. It's what he knows. It's what works. I think he would crush it. If drew brees said this offseason right like in two thousand twenty one. I wanna be a head coach in the nfl. I would bet five thousand dollars right now. I put it on the table. If drew brees came out and said this someone would hire him to be the head coach. I don't think it would be that crazy. I if i owned a team. I would want if i needed to. Coach would one million percent interview raise so as a coordinator. I think he'd fucking crush it. Where would you rank breeze on your all time quarterback list probably ten to fifteen. I would not have them in the top ten. Obviously brady montana elway marino payton aaron rodgers. Brett farve this is now no particular order. After the first two aaron rodgers breath for steve young you know there are some guys that i missed. That the auto grams the staubach's that's before my time. But the historian speak very highly of them. so i i wouldn't have drew brees in that in my lifetime. I would not put them ahead. Obviously brady manning no way rogers. Far no way. I'd take steve young over in for sure i mean. I probably rather russell wilson over him but russell has a lot of career left. Rothlisburger rockefeller was freak. I love rothlisberger. I'd probably take ten pig years rothlisberger over ten years of breeze but again rosberg is a first battle famer. So it's not like i'm speaking. Turner with watson wilson still wanting to move in all the teams picking up quarterbacks thoughts on a a watson wilson trade between the two teams no chance russell. Wilson's not going to go to houston. I see this a lot. Like what about this guy going to houston know no quarterbacks going to go to houston no chance zero. Von miller resigned with the broncos. I'm a sucker for von miller. I bet couple grand on that on that super bowl in two thousand sixteen when it came to the bay area. I got to go. 'cause my cousin is in the beer business. And of course. Lighten had a sweet seat. It was bad ass. I mean it was gambling on the super bowl being at the super bowl. I think it was lady gaga. Giving you a million reasons. He was really cool. I probably won't go to super bowl anytime soon but that that was a. I like how you mentioned. There are superstars in prose Commentators and that maddening gruden or superstars. One hundred percent agree. I even think tony romo could be mentioned as an emerging third superstar. Go into this more with basketball and mentioned some of the great color commentators like bill walton. And even jeff van gundy also you said weber was horrible. I actually disagree. He is unconventional but he might be a better color. They employer yeah. I grew up in the sacramento area. Listen weber is overrated. Given that like his talent he should have been garnett. He should have been a k. g. He probably shouldn't have been dunkin but maybe a barkley. He wasn't elite talent. An all time elite talent and in not in a million years. Did you ever want him to have the ball. When it mattered now he was special like his talent was immense. But he's kind of soft love shooting jumpers. I mean always shooting that fifteen foot jumper like top of the key. It's like bro fucking pound the post shack always clown them but in fairness shack way better than them. But duncan was better cagey just but i get back to my. He was a really good player. A borderline hall of famer. He's like an all time college guy. Obviously with the fab five. I think it's bad color commentator. I also think in fairness to him. This guy is a legend. Marv albert shot. If more. If marv albert was a pitcher he'd be thrown like sixty miles an hour. Why i can't believe and it's probably hard. He's one of the most. Probably the second most famous. I you know maybe brent musburger i'd say howard cosell would be one right if you just most famous sports play by play guys of all time you go howard cosell. I can't speak howard cosell musburger. Marv nance argues in that mix. I mean nancy dental stuff. But morris done i mean at least you know musburger still kinda got a personality and still kind of kicking wondering what your thoughts are on the browns signing josh johnson. He is the key piece in the browns the secondary and do you think we overpaid at any way or was it a great move by berry. They didn't give him that much money. Was this contract. Twenty four million dollars guaranteed basically. Give him a two year. Deal is knee like twenty six years old. I think what's john johnson. I think he's pretty good player. What's first name john johnson. the third. he's twenty five years old. i i like it. I'd be lying if i broke down his film but he's been a consistent starter for the rams since last couple of years. He's a good player. I i to me. You're you're going to run the ball. Odell beckham tween weird stuff. I don't know if you've noticed but oto beckham's kind of all over the map right now. If you just follow us twitter you're like is this guy. Quit football sky bet to get traded. Like what's going on here sums up with auto beckham can't wipe on my finger on it so the browns get more lyman get myles garrett another dude upfront just dominate. Because i saw when the niners were good and they're running the same defense. They had a great defensive line. Pretty good safety play and just corners. We're okay. I guess sherman was really good that you're probably on fire while your input on college football. My buddies and i had this ongoing argument about these power five conferences and they're terrible football programs example vanderbilt kansas rutgers. Why doesn't the power five conferences kick these absolute doctrines programs out of the conference and bringing better more competitive programs. If you can bring in more money is competition for the conference and inevitably more draft. Picks imagine kicking k. U. football out of the big twelve and bringing in houston. Smu while they may not be the best truly be more competitive. Well vanderbilt and rutgers. I hear what you're saying. Here's the problem. The big twelve likes her basketball and they are powerhouse. Basketball program conference. Well the alabama lsu ohio state of their basketball conference by a mile is bill self in the ku basketball team. So y- their their football team sucks. But they do so much in college hoops with tournament with the relevancy. Television deals k. u. Is worth their weight in gold as a basketball program. You deal with their football program. Sucks the other two programs vanderbilt vanderbilt. Whatever rutgers i hear you. I i see what you're you actually gave pretty good examples though houston and smu. Yeah that's the basketball program is worth so much. The big twelve having ku basketball with the with a lot of major players restructuring contracts before free agency. I think it's pretty telling that jimmy g. hasn't restrictors contract. Meaning he'd be committed to san francisco for the next year or two definitely. I think they cut or trade will happen either now or on draft night because of the fact i think they'll wait till draft night so they're not tipping their hand around the league. The denver quarterback in case they do trade sucks. It has to be that way because an extra twenty million right now would be nice. Let me know your thoughts. I'd heard some rumors that they were trying to trade up to number three right now. Maybe they're waiting for the sam darnold situation to play itself out. But yeah i mean i think jimmy they. They haven't restructured them for a reason. They got if jimmy garoppolo is going to be the quarterback next year one hundred percent his cap. It would have gone from twenty two about two because it would have moved money back. They the last thing in a million years kyle. Shanahan wants to do is hitch his wagon. Jimmy garoppolo march eighteenth. Two thousand and twenty one. So i'm with you good call by you. The not restructuring him tells you everything you know but it also makes sense. of course. they didn't restructure. They couldn't have been. That would have been nuts if they did. But yeah appreciate everyone listening. Have a great weekend enjoy march madness. It's pouring rain outside right now but hopefully wherever you are. It's warmed up sons out if it's not. 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Power, Water and Texas: What happened?

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Power, Water and Texas: What happened?

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It's kinda it's kinda wild to say the least We've been on an infrastructure kick lately ever since our earlier news segment about that hacker in oldsmar florida. You know the one who tried to poison the city with lie. I believe it was show which apparently is a thing that goes in water in some small amount and he just upped the ante. Yup and then we talked about the the brine gets produced that maybe radioactive no it is radioactive in in making energy from fracking and other processes who new infrastructure could be so terrifying fascinating and still so boring. that's why a sleeping giant of conspiracy corruption and problems like if reporting for new site. You know that a story about infrastructure. Probably won't get you a ton of clicks or eyeballs. If you are running for office railing about the danger of failing infrastructure probably isn't going to do much to help you get elected and if you do fix this stuff people will usually not bother to acknowledge or thank you for maintaining or fixing it. Not because they're being dick's but because infrastructure win it works becomes invisible ray. It's sort of like when you have to buy new tires for your car or like a new battery. That's like the least sexy fund purchase. Ever you just resent it because it's just supposed to work and when it doesn't it makes you angry and then you resent having to spend the money but then you know it's nice when it does work but then you forget all about it right. Yeah we only noticed this stuff or care about it when it breaks when the lights still come on when you flip the switch when the water doesn't come out of the faucet when you turn the knob and then immediately we scramble for someone to blame it is boring as hell to be prepared but if you ask any boy scout or any texan. Nowadays they'll tell you being prepared can save lives. Our story today is about the ongoing winter storm crisis in texas. Here are the facts to to figure out what happened. know i. This storm was not restricted to texas. It hit parts of northern mexico. It hit huge swaths of the us and the rest of the north american continent but had a unique situation due to their power grid. And there's an old story behind this. Write a story that begins in texas in the dawn of the previous century in the years following the construction of the first. us power. Plant by thomas. Edison in manhattan in eighteen eighty. Two small plants started popping up. Maybe that's where plants came from. Because they're like plants popping up around Different areas of the nation including texas and as time went on these utilities began to become interconnected to one another and the phenomenon of this interconnectedness accelerated during the first world war because it was necessary absolutely and expansion continued more and more folks living further and further away from city centers. And guess what in world war two that expansion continued and the interconnectedness grew more connected. Solidified what we want to call it connecting. Yes yes and something else interesting happened. During the world war two times here in the us specifically out texas way a utilities there in texas. Be joining together to been you've written in the here voltron and i love that that concept of all of the different plants and electrical mini grids. They're just voltron become one giant. What's what's bigger than a megawatt or kilowatt gigawatt gigawatts or perhaps very younger listeners power ranging up becoming a mega tron of sorts. Ray assembled the avengers. Look we we spend a lot of time. They formed something collectively known as the texas interconnected system. Let's call ti s For the sake of brevity this had some tremendous advantages in the beginning both for the businesses and for the customers. I it allowed these this network really allowed for the transmission of extra electricity to these factories that of massively ramped up production for the war effort there working around the clock. You gotta feed the machine but second in the longer term. It allowed these utilities to link to john dams along texas rivers. And this is. This is where i plots starts start for very long time. This t. is was actually a group name. For two distinct entities one in northern texas one in southern texas. They were different but they work together because they were on the same page about pretty much everything. They had one primary alterior motive and it was not to provide the best service to customers frights. Their alterior motive was the state independent from larger oversights avoid the constraints and big brotherhood and those silly regulations that come in at the federal level which is a thing kind of at the heart of like texas history. I mean they've always kind of threatened to secede from the union or form their own mega state or whatever It seems to be that that autonomy and that fear or resentment of big government is very much ingrained into the history of the state of texas. Oh yeah i remember another thing. There's a reason it's called texas t oil. That is when there's a reason because that's a resource that is all over the place in texas and has been for a long time and that meant that being independent from the other larger systems across north america was easier for texas right because they've got so much natural energy already existing. They're in oil also. They don't want anyone coming in and drinking up there. Milkshake right yeah. Texas is a resource-rich state in a resource. Rich country The just have oil. They have natural gas and coal and natural gas plays a big part in today's story There there was a really interesting study. I read a number of years ago. Abou- which us states could function autonomously like with like just in terms of providing resources for the people who already live there of and geo political about it and you know california's on that list but texas is on that list to. It's a big place with a lot of stuff very climate You know a ton of agriculture as well so with all this with all these resources already at their fingertips the powers that be in texas were able to fuel their power plants within state resources. This was very important because it meant that they encapsulated this industry. All within the state lines on both ends they were kind of think of it like growing or harvesting their own power and then they were also only sending it to places in texas. That's the way they wanted it. Because otherwise uncle sam gets involved and makes do silly things like be prepared can back in one thousand nine hundred thirty five. Franklin delano roosevelt. Who's the president at the time. Something called the federal power act into law. This gave outfit called the federal power commission the ability slash mandate to oversee all interstate electricity sales the federal energy regulatory commission replaced it and they currently handle all this stuff today so what was texas is solution to what they saw as federal overreach. Just never across the state line. Just don't ever do it and then we will be fine here with our lonestar approach to energy and the rest of you you other forty nine states while there weren't fifty at that point can continue Your own song and dance. Just leave us out of it it me. Think of something. Hank hill might say. Would i ever wanna leave texas exactly and also good luck to you. Hawaii and alaska learn power. Lines out to where you are right. The caption says laughs and texan yesterday's so texas flirted with the idea of regulation at various points. And until the nineteen seventies virtually no regulation in one thousand nine hundred seventy. Something probably heard a lot of in the news recently was formed. It's the energy reliability council of texas or what not to be confused as we discussed earlier with ergot poisoning or epcot. Disney urquhot is not as bad as got poisoning and it is probably not as fun to visit there as it is to visit at so i feel like that's a very fair way affair. Spectrophotometer caught up for sure. Well you definitely can't get a belgian beer while walking around parts of arcot. Don't work that way you're right that's true you also probably will get spasms diarrhea mania psychosis headaches nausea vomiting. The squamish ine. Not that's not that's not. that's not. what about man. These squamish is a grizzly word of the day. It's it's street name. His skin peeling anyway before eighteen us two four down the wrong rabbit hole or was formed largely reaction to a massive blackout in november of one thousand. Nine hundred sixty five which sort of our listeners may may remember when texas went back to deregulation in the nineteen ninety s this agency. This institution urquhot assumed additional responsibilities and the entire time. They kept that old that old goal they stayed beyond the reach of the fettes. There were complications because the thing about these sorts of grand multi generational schemes with many moving parts. They never work out one hundred percent. I wish people would just say that at the top of this kind of stuff. They never worked out one hundred percent. There are always exceptions. They're always missteps. They're always plot twists and over the years. Texas itself has breached its energy independence a couple of times out of necessity. I would say yup once it happened during world war two when special provisions were made to link texas to other grids in time of crisis obviously make sense glad they went along with but i guess they could probably have had their arms twisted as well Then there is a nineteen seventy six during an event known as very sexy event. Name the midnight connection. It's also our that's the inspiration for our stuff there. Once you are be banned Yes when a texas utility on purpose flipped a switch and sent power to oklahoma of for a few hours and this was what the feds were hoping for and it set off a massive legal battle that could have brought texas to their knees. In terms of you know power tawny Under federal regulators ultimately texas did win the day and ended up saying off those larger grits. And this wasn't the only event that's one of the big ones right there. Several others and texas ended up in a bit of a. Have your cake and eat it too situation. I love the concept there in two thousand eleven. The state started getting some power from mexico during another set of issues where they were rolling blackouts where they kind of had to force some people to go without power in order to get power to the places that it needed to be. You know the expression and have your cake and needed to is always really. Fascinated me makes me think of schroeder's cat. We call elliott's not there at the same time we should start referring to that assured injures cake. I like that and we say it this way having your cake and eat too because this connection to mexico a couple this one connection that we just mentioned earlier it means that texas right now does have several power connections to mexico as well as to the larger energy grid in the united states. But it doesn't mean that they're being regulated by the feds. They've they've they've still got some regulation when it comes to urquhot that energy reliability group that we're talking about here. They are kind of looked over in a way. It's kinda strange when you read some of the some of the ways it works online. But they are. They're kind of overseen by the public utility commission of texas. And i only say kind of because it feels a little strange sometimes at least from an outside perspective about who is actually in charge in many situations. Yeah absolutely i because we talked a little bit about the territoriality of different stakeholders in the energy industry The public utilities commission has been accused of being toothless in the past And that's why you see urquhot getting a lot of the A lot of the spotlight of infamy and controversy. Right now urquhot does have. They have three ties to mexico to ties to the larger eastern grid of the us. Think of it in terms of three big grits for the country. They're very creative with the names. One is the western interconnection. One is the eastern interconnection and the other one is texas. Ninety percent of texas. Falls under the purview of urquhot and Will as as i think. We mentioned earlier. The parts of texas that. We're in that ten percent or in areas that hadn't fully deregulated whether the literal storm better than their neighbors. So all five of those links to these other grits can be used to move commercial power and they can also be used in emergencies but to your point mats. they do not They do not trigger federal oversight. Which is what the these organizations want. Everything was going fine now. Under a deregulated market. Yes many people in texas. We're paying more for power than they would have in more regulated market but that wasn't necessarily the priority these companies. Things start to go wrong earlier this month. In early february the s hit the fan and by s. We mean massive winter storms. Really you're gonna say massive winter we'll keep. We'll keep this bird in vegas or we could just bleep the storms. The robot voice track on. Okay computer either says frozen winter. Yeah okay sorry. Let's keep this whole thing so there was this Because we'll need the levity in the second There was an unprecedented matt. You've heard there was a massive storm. There were actually two. There was a pair of winter. Storms that caused record low temperatures across the state. I one hits february tenth in february eleventh and then another one february thirteenth to february seventeenth just for snapshot temperatures in dallas fort worth plummeted to negative two degrees fahrenheit minus nineteen degrees celsius amazon clearly like unprecedented to to be fair. Maybe is is the right word. This is something that's never really happened there before. Right right yeah. This was a record that hadn't been broken for seventy two years at the very least in dallas. But but you're you're absolutely right. It's unprecedented for all. Two hundred and fifty four or so counties in texas to have winter storm warnings. And then things you'll even worse. Just imagine it demand for power skyrocketed as people were trying not to freeze to death supply plummeted because you see the power. Plants were also affected by the storm and one by one. They started going dark when the people needed them. The most as a result of this more than four point three million homes and businesses in texas alone lost power for some amount of time and forty seven That we know of people lost their lives as a direct result of this absolute catastrophe and the causes of death here range from the actual cold itself leading to someone's death to carbon monoxide poisoning from people attempting to find creative ways to find heat to get heat to their bodies and into the house to drownings two house fires to hypothermia. Their automobile accidents related with this. Whole thing. It's just it's been tough. I think i think the way you put it as a catastrophe is is. It's almost a la to light of a word but it's a terrible thing that has gone on. It's certainly a step up from a disaster because it's like literally storm where so many things went wrong at the same time well put and this leads us to our question. What happens when things go wrong. How did we get here and perhaps most importantly what happens next. We'll dive into this after a word from our sponsor This episode of stuff. They don't want you to know is brought to you by filo. Hey do you love tv but you hate paying giant cable. Bill will guess what filo is the thing for you filo for just twenty dollars a month is live and on demand all your favorite channels all your favorite content in one place. So you don't need to hassle with twenty different apps. Because i don't know about you guys. But as a as a cord cutters. All these different apps can drive you crazy. We are in a golden age of televisual. Wonder in that you can get all the stuff that you want in the way that you want it. Say you're a crime junkie. 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Corruption conspiracy since texas did not have federal oversight. The various people that would be described as stakeholders. In this energy game. we're not mandated to do things other other organizations in other states do have to do. They didn't institute. certain safety. measures like winterizing equipment and facilities. Winterizing is being thrown around like a buzzword by it just means weather proofing. You know what i mean like. It just means let's get a maybe insulator material around various equipment and components and structures on a smaller scale. It reminds me a lot of what happened here. In atlanta several years ago with the snow apocalypse on a much smaller scale. This was more a situation of massive inconvenience. I believe a few people maybe died in traffic situations like cars sliding off the roads and all that but it was just they just weren't prepared for that level of icing of roads. And this is that but on a completely fundamental level that affects so many things because again that word interconnectedness and we're going to get a lot of that but one of the reasons that it is not quite the same but it is applicable here. The situation in atlanta during apocalypse is the atlanta as a city learned from what occurred. And i don't know if you guys remember but we've had some pretty intense snow since that time and there is now an infrastructure built up around it and the infrastructure has been improved to the extent where the highways at least are not going to be a place where a ton of motorists caught up for a couple of days. Anything they over prepped. Now or the overreact i. I'll know if that'll last because we after we have to be very conscious folks. We're it's our city. So i think it's fine for us to dongguan it. We live in a city. Where part of the interstate will just sort of drop out of the sky like remember one time bridge on part of it wasn't there and we got a really sketchy story about people. Starting a fire a bridge which is like an episode of always sunny also blamed it on the homeless population. Smoking math or something that ended up being a complete fabrication or at the very least reach. I am not. I've not speaking to this nonsense of which you're speaking. This is nonsense. And i agree with all that stuff ridiculous. Watch my video on youtube which you can still find. I think on her youtube channel of the of the burning of a highway in atlanta. But what i mean is a very specific thing occurred those a major problem. And let's be honest here a pr issue for sure for the city And steps were taken sure yet but we also have to consider again. It's like the argument is set up at the very very top people. There's a there's a great quote in literature maybe was check so check me on this. Check meal checkoff I can't remember which authors said it but they said like the mark of a good story and a good writer is when the author becomes invisible. That's the mark of good infrastructure. As well. I know this might be maybe unpopular something. People don't wanna hear right now but if we look at this situation from the perspective of the company's the various people every point in the Energy flow of texas in that business. We can understand their logic there an tremendously competitive cutthroat market. So why bother preparing for blizzards when subfreezing temperatures are so infrequent light from their perspective. Just for comparison. Imagine you live in miami. Why would you invest in a pair. Why would you invest in set of tire chains. They're probably never gonna leave your garage because you'll probably never need to drive in the snow. And that's of course the same logic with atlanta and it's three snowplows and there were even people you know real Thrift hawks very fiscally conservative people. Who were saying. Why are we even wasting money on this. This is these still. Plows are unnecessary. It's wasteful government spending and then it turned out that even that spending wasn't enough but We'll see how these words taste if we have to eat them in another snow pacalypse in atlanta but as michael weber pointed out he is energy resources professor at the university of texas at austin their plans were flawed because their plans were based on precedent as we said earlier. The storm is unprecedented. They were using outdated weather patterns. And if you use those outdated weather patterns not saying there was something better available to them at the time maybe future modeling. which is predictive. Can have a wild margin of error. If you're using that outdated weather as as your roadmap then of course you're going to say things don't freeze it makes sense. Well they also didn't learn from past occurrences where this very thing has happened in the not like not that long ago right would that we mentioned in our episode that we already that we've mentioned this in before we talked about how it's happened several times in the past. Were this very thing occurred. Yeah you're absolutely right and this it's important to understand that perspective because also picture south like you're the you're the mover and shaker. The ceo of some company in the energy industry in texas and your business starts failing because you invested so much in winterisation and people are coming to you and saying why did we waste millions and millions of dollars on this. We have to spend that money fighting for our lives as a business because there are other hungry people out there. They want to eat our electric lunch. Is this a byproduct of of the completes 'isolation of their power system having no subsidization or no assistance from uncle samuel. Yes this is. This is something that comes out of the deregulation. For sure. I and at this point. I suggest that we we pause for a moment not for word from our sponsors but from a for a word from some of our fellow listeners. We're in texas new written to us and some of our own personal experience which we don't always do but we like millions and millions of other people do have friends and family in texas matt. You just spoke with your uncle not too long ago. Correct as he. I guess it was a little while. Ago was last thursday as we're recording this. When when they were still very much in the middle of a power outage he lives in houston in a suburb. Just to i wanna say the south west of houston and he said the power at that time had been out for two days then it came on for about five hours then it went out again. Thankfully he in. The family were able to store some food outside because it was cold enough to preserve food for an elongated amount of time at that time and another great thing and this is a reason to have a fully gas stove setup He didn't need power or to start that gas stove. You just turn the knob and then get a source of fire like a lighter or anything else rematch. Put over there and you can cook anything. You need to So that was very very good. The big problem he said was the water and gaining access to water during all of this stuff because if busted burst pipes are just frozen there. A couple of factors Partially burst pipes. Because of the freeze ray. Water expands when freezes and then partially because the water treatment plants also had gone off line and that can lower that can result in lower water pressure those two factors and at a certain threshold of water pressure When it goes below a certain threshold of people will be advised to boil water. But then you boil water. If you don't have electricity right you're going to have to build a fire going to have to be like matt's uncle and have a gas stove or something like that all also remember if you don't have a way to heat the water then imagine what it's like to try attempt to bathe or attempt to do anything that would require warmer water. That is not you know you're not going to boil then mixed some cold water and poor on yourself. It becomes a big issue just dealt with this when our water heater went oh speaking of burst pipes and just firsthand accounts John oliver a really great segment on this and then showed some really big shocking images of this stuff. These scenes in people's homes and businesses and one of them was a ceiling fan literally dripping with these like stalag. What is it stalactites. Go down these. You know ice crystals coming down off of the ceiling fan blaze which could only have been because of burst pipes and water leaking through the ceiling right now and another one of a car wash. Where like the cool foamy stuff that that's colorful when you go through and everyone makes instagram videos of it. Going down there windshield one of those tanks. i guess burst and that stuff exploded out and it's frozen and it looks like literally like some kind of magical cave fairyland or something but way more terrifying and and sinister and then you know. You can also see heartbreaking accounts of people burning. Whatever was flammable in their house like furniture and so on to keep Their kids warm People sleeping in cars or charging their phones off their car battery trying to find where water is in any emergency situation by the way Once you have found some modicum of physical safety nor vary next thing no matter what. Your very next thing is to figure out where you're going to find potable water the you can. You would be surprised how long people can survive without eating and without having permanent damage to their system from doing so but dehydration will rock your and you can die with in four days and this. Your mileage may vary. There are people of of course. We've all seen survival stories of people who managed to stay alive but they didn't thrive past that point and you are very much on a ticking clock the moment you realize you can't find water. Please take it seriously even if you think you know even if you think i'm camping somewhere and there's clearly marked trail and i can walk half a mile to the parking lot. Just take some water with you. You know what i mean. And we'll last thing to add here. My uncle lives in a very nice area and on our previous episode. We'll be talking about this situation. It was mentioned at least rumors that power was being sent to very wealthy communities before it was going to be sent to anywhere else or like diverted. Well we're there was an inequality in in power distribution depending on essentially zip code or a neighborhood or something like that. I can't speak to all of those. But i can tell you been my family's house it is lovely isn't a ridiculously nice area. And they still lost power justice frequently as everybody else share. And i don't know exactly where senator ted cruz lives. But his house apparently got cold enough that they decided to piss off to What is it came coon. Yeah and we'll We'll look into that a little bit later in the episode to before we move on. I wanna thank Miles be nathan g jacob d and a number of other people who reached out to us to give us their experience a during this massive catastrophe jacob Especially noted noted something that one of by relatives in austin noted which is that people's odds of having power did seem to be better if they were if they were around something like emergency responder building or a hospital something like that jacob. You also noted that the story from urquhot kept changing as as wind power would be restored how rolling blackouts would work. Excetera of the said encore was giving updates like oh power is going to be on fifteen minutes. Your powers on not power was not on right. And there's there's kind of a fog of war with this to you. Know are so many moving parts. but here's what. When the power outages began natural gas plants utility scale wind turbines coal and nuclear plants. All of those started detroit meaning. They fell off the grid because they didn't have the investments necessary to keep them online during sustained low temperatures. They just couldn't function this way. Even if there wasn't a surge in demand for power like that's an important note even if it had just been the storm and dare had not been an increase in demand for energy. A lot of these facilities still would have failed just because they could handle it. That's why urquhot that's their logic for ordering utilities to institute rolling blackouts Which are probably familiar to enron fans in california if there are any ron fans left after after their massive debacle. And this is a big note that been mentioned here. I just want to make sure we're not going to go over too quickly. These were all sorts of different types of energy generating plants if no matter what you're reading online or what anybody is saying this is it is affecting all parts of not just the green sector. It's not just coal or natural gas or whatever it's everything across the board was being affected so the logic here is theoretically sound urquhot says look we have to. We have to kind of cut off arm to save the body temporarily right. We're going to strategically reduced temporary demand through a somewhat arcane process that is very vulnerable to corruption. Or maybe some phone calls from powerful people asking little favors anyway. They said by reducing demand at certain times in certain areas that would be able to prevent the entire circus tent of texas electricity from collapsing. And that's a rock and a hard place. Honestly if the entire grid failed then texans would have been without power for weeks even months and it could have affected All the other pieces of infrastructure right including water treatment. 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Or wherever you get your podcasts back. Ok so imagine you are one of the lucky few who threw accident. Fate or design managed to keep your power for some or all of the winter. Outages you're not a super great place because the people who did have power found that their bills skyrocketed skyrocketed is not the right word gerbils launched into orbit they space rocket. Yeah and you know it it. It follows the concept of supply and demand. But you don't typically think of that in terms of like things that people need to survive as as that being a calculus and yet here we are. There's a little bit inside baseball here. But here's what having one megawatt of hope was called. Wholesale power went from fifty bucks to nine thousand dollars of wholesale power. Something that business will buy and then they will sell it provided to consumers. So this wouldn't affect you if you add what's called a fixed rate plan. That's a very common thing here in the us. You're basically as a customer forced to gamble with power company. And you you can make one of a couple of you can make a couple of types of bets. One of the bats is saying. Hey i will pay this much per unit of power all the time. And i'll do that for twelve months so if there's a surge in price or demand i won't have to pay more than my you know thirty cents or a buck thirty five or whatever but if the price goes lower than that dollar thirty five i still have to pay the dollar thirty five. So you're kind of in a casino with the power company. I always wondered. I mean i guess it really is up to the individual but dc about the benefit here was was alarmingly apparent but in general What would you recommend. Then i'll tell you all. I'll give you my opinion i've been i've been officially paying power now since two thousand in four so i've been paying separate power bills since two thousand four I have attempted to the variable style once. And it's the only time i had to pay ridiculous amounts of money for power And did the same thing with heating bills. Only once you got me once never will do it again. I've always felt that fixed rates seemed like the safest bet. And i'm a fixed rate man myself. Yeah agreed again. These are personal experiences. Mileage may vary but there are power monopolies here in georgia. So you ha- you are forced to deal with them. And they want you to gamble on and i i personally am not a big fan of gambling and i do think you could say nbc hyperbolic or whatever by describing it as this but it is. It is gambling. And i had experienced like you matt Variable can work if you like astutely time it and you pay attention. Close attention fixed rate. It's kind of like you're just paying more for the certitude in the predictability so Fixed three is pretty good. I think a lot of people in texas were unfixed rate too. So let's talk about the people who will with a variable rate I don't know what the smallest of place all of us Listening today have ever lived in his but there was one woman in texas who had a seven hundred square foot apartment pretty small. She was keeping it at sixty degrees. She didn't lose power for very long when she got her power. Bill it was one thousand dollars. This is this like a by design. Are they really thinking. People are going to pay this. Are they really going to hold people to these absurd bills. Is it supply and demand or is it price gouging. It's always an accident like let's just. The bill is not an accident. That's how much the energy costs when they were attempting when they're going through this crisis. If energy was being supplied to your home the supply demand. Baby it's messed up. It's really messed up. We can get into that a little more as we get to the conclusion here but yeah the the big thing is that a lot of people dealt with something like that huge in the thousands bills that were coming due and ultimately as we'll see this will have to be decided in the courts i think one guy was talking to nbc news. And he said. I have a two bedroom home. My power bills usually one hundred twenty five to one hundred and fifty bucks but this it's more than three thousand dollars which caught me by surprise. I am editorializing a little another family. One really extreme example. Another family told the same team at nbc that they were able to keep the power in their home which had three bedrooms and then they found their bill ended up being ten thousand dollars and the price. Gouging didn't stop. there didn't stop with power bills because remember. This is a crisis it will. Yeah and i get that. And i understand that this crisis for the energy end of it to the provider but again it's it's kind of their fault So it doesn't seem fair that they would pass this onto the consumer. But i guess that's what utilities do But would they have been notified. Would they have just known this happening from. Maybe the news. Like like i just i just feel would have been in the responsibility of the energy coming to say. Hey heads up. The this is about to get real expensive right. Yeah it's tough and also we have to remember. It was happening so quickly. You know what. I mean zero. Prep time but as we record today. Texas officials are cracking down on businesses. That have been accused of hiking. The prices of food and water and hotel rooms especially while the state is still battling through the shortages That were caused by these storms. Like people were going to hotels not even nice hotels. They're finding the the price of been hyped up to nine hundred bucks because folks who pay it There was like there was something. I found especially wholesome in a very disturbing way. There was a store like you know like little grocery store or a gas station that had closed down because of the storm and because they didn't have and some locals have been like breaking into this place to get but then they started paying on an honor system. And so there's like this pile of cash on the floor and a nice little like a nice. Not which i thought was a really. I thought that was a really human thing of a compliment but back to the water. More than twelve million people found water service disrupted more than two hundred thousand people in texas live in areas where water systems were completely non. We've got especially in rural texas. We've got a lot of people who have wells and generally. I think that is an awesome idea. But we had some folks contact us and say you know we thought we'd be okay but our wells are wells. Were frozen nord. I mean we're not on the grid. So what can we do can access that water if it's all locked up in ice well there's an additional thing they would like depending on where that water is coming from when that well where it's you know. Words dug into just imagine all the chemicals and stuff that are going into land across parts of texas. Yikes because of what fracking mostly That's right that's a good point because the fracking is still in the chat. Very much off rack you the fracture and this is where we get to Some much needed levity here Something happened in the ensuing information war narrative war That would be hilarious if it was not so so very dumb while people were dying. Several pundits and politicians in the beginning of this crisis tried to blame the power failures on renewable energy specifically windmills. That's right they are the villain of this story big wind which sounds like a street name for someone who is flatulent but this is really easy to disprove. I know we all saw the clip spoo- honestly may be twenty. Three percent of texas energy comes from renewable sources. Like all of them together. It sounds a whole lot like pay no attention to the man behind the curtain scenario. You know what. I mean look over here. Misdirection and also. It's obviously an agenda as well because as we discussed. Texas says a history of fossil fuels and Fossil fuel extraction so best best. And they don't want to be told what to do by big government. You know something like this. This creepy green new deal right exactly exactly and natural gas powers. Most of that grid looked at this statistical breakdown so really natural gas is the first thing you should be looking at in these power related emergencies and production of natural gas had plummeted due to the freezing conditions right which made it difficult for power plants to get the fuel necessary to generate electricity. So you can have a working car. But if you don't have the gas you're not going anywhere. That's what happened to a lot of these plants. They don't store a bunch of fuel on site it has to be brought to them continually but that being said here is a. Let me know if we should keep this in guys here. Here is a hot take from texas agriculture commissioner sid miller who is known for his Somewhat opinionated facebook post trying very hard to be fair. Yep that's right Miller said we should never build another wind. Turbine in texas should never build another with the texas full. Stop full stop i mean. Maybe he's just a big fan of birds and he's just triggered by wind turbines. You know 'cause of whatever maybe it scare the windmills. Maybe scare windmills. Maybe he's a don quixote type figure. Then he had another facebook post where he said insult added to injury. Those ugly wind turbines out there are among the main reasons. We are experiencing electricity blackouts. Isn't that erotic. Don't you think that's an alanis morissette reference. Yeah anyway he continues to goes so much for the unsightly unproductive energy robbing obama monuments. At least they show us where idiots live. Oh my you know who he sounds like. I think. I think you know who he sounds like. Trump s a familiar tone that we haven't been hearing as much lately In terms of that out and out you know name calling and hyperbole yeah obama monuments. He should've just call gone. The next xtra mountain called them. Yeah you know. I do like the i gotta say. I objectively like the cadence. There's something about those three m's how they kinda ride the beat in a in that phrase nama monument. You're right you're right but but i agree with you. That as a portmanteau oh what what was no abandonments obedience. Yeah there it is a. There's there's something else here. We received some correspondence from lower fellow listeners. Including our main man james. Who was who told us that there. There appears to be some corruption regarding. Who was able to keep power. It appears that Some wealthy residents or people residing wealthy zip codes got preferential treatment. We do know that are caught and utilities were able to direct these blackouts right to a degree because they prioritize things like keeping the power on at the fire station or the power on at the hospital or the precinct. You know what i mean. And those are normal things to do during a disaster. The question is did For instance someone who like. Let's say your a A high up person in like industry or local politics. Are you able to then call the person running things at your local utility and say hey the power mayes zip code stays on and they're like you got it. Just remember me the next Aluminum body cookout cookout. Mary cookout and for the next The next bohemian propane grove. Okay so so that now. We're looking at the aftermath and this is still happening by the way this is. This should just be considered a kind of one one explainer of the opportunities for corruption conspiracy. The situation and weather are improving but still tons and tons of people don't have power and don't have clean water by the way. I just got my friend vanessa. Who lives out. I think near in the fort worth area just called me back. And let the voicemail. But i don't have access to that. We may get a text in a moment just to give update on the ground. So we'll do that before. This episode ends if if we can and there is hope on the horizon folks. We didn't want this to end with the total gloom and doom senator ted cruz who was witnessed abandoning his state during the ongoing disaster for an abortive trip to cancun officially returned when the press caught the story. Now he always coming back. He's always coming right back. He just had to go to be a dad for a day to make makes you get the kids all settled in to the the was the four seasons i believe and then he was always gonna come right back. We know with a giant rolling suk. I'm sorry i'm being snarky. Just yeah people only do stuff. They're supposed to do when they get caught. And i don't know how he thought he would get away with this money money as we've said numerous times in ben. This is a mantra that we have on the show. Money is a superpower. It's the closest thing you're going to get to it. Tissues tech crews has some money. He was like what is this. What no and he got out of there. I know it's not a good political. Look and i know it's terrible and allowed. People are very very mad at him but like can you really blame him. He has the superpower to be able to go to cancun when stuff goes back so this is the thing regardless value. Feel about the guy. He caught a lot of bad press and rightly so because he kept changing his explanation for the trip. He kept changing his description of the trip. And he's really bad at it too. He's really bad at lying in this way. Yeah i'm not saying. I think he's a great guy little. You just leave it there because if you guys don't listen if any of you out there does not listen to the the show. This is important on iheartradio. you should. They've got a segment with take. What does it take backs. Apologies things like that. This is my take back. Sorry What i would say is watch. Snl that just came out this past week. There's a great cold open that is describing. What you guys are saying here with the corn. Rose yeah and this so you know. The calvary returns a got dunked on in the in the media because he was changing explanation description of the story. Other facts came out. There were leaked text messages. people who love dogs were mad that they left their dog for what was Sometimes described as a forty trip or like the length of time kept marrying. Don't worry after. He changed his explanation. Several times senator cruz Now currently on the ground and he's made sure to be photographed handed out water bottles So truly it is the trying times that bring out the hero and all of us. I basically think the man's a saint at this point in a yup. Yup i mean that's the thing know by location is a saint superpower right. It's one of the miracles so he may still be in cancun. Wouldn't that be cool. Maybe as a clone Anyway he could have handled it the pr. You know fall out a little better if he did have a war. Better disguise or something you know even with the mask. He stuck out like a sore thumb in the airport. Yeah get a get a even really lazy. I d like travel is said trues or something like that but but now i mean that that aside we know the ramifications brewing for everybody from the businesses like ted cruz it was getting tried in the court of public opinion but some of these energy providers are going to you know actual court well. It's like we said at the beginning. It's a it's a win win. These things start to break. It just becomes a series of finger pointing and when a finger points a you you point your finger at someone else then that finger point somewhere someone else and then it's up to the courts to decide who deserves the finger. That's why i point with my whole hand Never never just one finger give the whole hand. Give them what presidents have to. Do you have to kind of like point with your thumb when you talk so you don't look like a dictator so we've got paid to figure that out. Bill clinton was that he was the first one so went told him to do that. But right now as we speak there is a class action lawsuit in the works for texas electric retailer named gritty. They're getting sued for one billion dollars. Gritty like the mascot of of michigan no philadelphia. No a to d q sounding name though. I'm not gonna lie true. It feels like an app. Does it and for sure. That's not the only lawsuit that's coming out there. They're going to be so many happening just in the next couple of years here because of the situation and we also know that urquhot that energy reliability council tonight the the folks who are in charge of that thing or not getting away scot-free either now has been a cascade of resignations. Correct yes correct released as of right now. I believe it's six people who were leaving a minor cascade. Yeah yeah it was. I know five initially five members of the board. They all tendered their resignation for of them. I think in one message and then another one Separately and including that believe. That's the the head of the board right the chair. The board chair left Yeah yeah people. These resignations are all from the board of directors but the the headline might be a little bit misleading in this one because in the resignation. Letter that I think four of these people wrote They said that they were motivated to resign. Because people had a decade to the fact that these four people thought themselves reside in texas so they said i like the way you would put it off air matt. They basically threw their hands up. And we're like okay. Okay you guys do this though. That's cool we'll get out of here. Buck passed efficiently. Yup alright spring break out so so we are we. Are you know. We're trying to handle this with with levity but it is it is true that regardless feel about the role of government the role of private industry or How you feel about the weather these three things a all played a role. In what whether through their absence or whether through their strategies. They all play a role in this In this terrifying series of events you in these situations everybody wants someone to blame like. We said at the very top of the episode. But really you can't blame commission for not being able to control the weather right. That's that's just something we all have to deal with. And then when you think about winterizing if he did down into the boring stuff about winterisation you'll see that. No small number of experts are saying at this point might be better to build out new infrastructure. That's already created to be weatherproof then. Spending the money trying to winter is the existing stuff. I think the issue that i have with with that idea of of you can't blame them as the political stance of so many people in power in a state like that Involves climate change denial. And this is an absolute in my opinion Example of the climate changing so all these climate deniers that are bearing their head in the sand. Saying nothing to see here. Nothing's going to happen then. Stuff like this happens and they weren't prepared because they denied it. I think that's you know. I think that is a good point. I think is valid point and also. The weather is becoming increasingly unpredictable. If you are lucky enough to have a elderly people in your family or friends right and when you say elderly. I i'm thinking like seventy plus if you have people like that in your life and You have some time. Ask then how the weather was when they were growing up. You're you're going to if they haven't already told you. I know there's a stereotype that older people like to talk about. Whether but they haven't already told you I guarantee that you will see from firsthand experience that there has been a noticeable change of weather over those seven decades. Those people were alive and that makes the problem even tougher. That's the question We have to end on question. How can we prepare for things that we can't predict. Can we afford to prepare for everything. No matter how unlikely it may seem should we. Should we even do that. You know like like Matt you we have this thing where we put in related episodes or working on the show and matt you. You cited a really great one night in necessarily think about immediately which was our question about whether a solar flare destroy civilization. The answer is yes. Oh yeah because the whole point we almost brought it up earlier. We were talking about how long the power was out in how long it could have been out right and if it was out for weeks then you're dealing with potentially the collapse of civilization in texas and that's exactly what that episode was about Because when you're when you're out when power cannot be turned on for a certain amount of time right now because of all of the infrastructure and how everything functions if it was offered long enough i don't have any headphones anymore If it was long enough for if it was out for long enough absolute chaos My son really wants me to tell you. Guys about chaos citing it is a is he. A proponent of chaos theory. Oh he's trying to get me to open a barks root beer l. Got i mean look. We can see what you're talking about that just by the series of events in this story that happened over the span of like several days. You know i mean it really triggered an absolute Domino effect of things going horribly horribly. Wrong so you know. Given a longer period of time with the right conditions it absolutely would lead to the collapse of civilization if If if things were just wrong enough. But then on the other hand you know it's still kind of a gamble arguably because we'd take the solar flare example just using that because it's like an apocalyptic movie plot in the solar flare example. If you if you take this steps to harden elect electric grid right against this the this unpredictable event then why happened like what if one doesn't come for fifty years then you just like you're incredibly paranoid. There's that other but there's this other example. We talked a little bit about off. Air Back when the modern london sewer system was being built. The guy was heading it up Said look we're only going to do this once. I got all the estimates everything that is reasonable. But we're going to go away bigger. We're gonna make these pipes twice as big as they need to be. Because if we don't this is gonna come back to us and everybody was like you're crazy dude. I don't know what your thing pipes is. But you need to pump your brakes and it turns out he was right. That's the only reason. The london sewer system still works is because someone had the foresight to to think about these future possibilities and they also didn't have a problem with Being mocked for them like the guy who talked about washing your hands and ended up in saint asylum. Yeah exactly and these are questions for you folks. We we want to hear. Want to hear your thoughts. What what's the answer here. How how do we avoid this massive tragedy in tragedies like this in the future is their stuff we should do is the should. There is federal regulation the answer for texas. You know a lot of people are going to say. No a lot of people say that misses the point. A better predictive weather models do we just tell everybody. Constantly live as those civilization may collapse in the next seventy two hours. That's that's the one that's the one Speaking of my friend. Vanessa just got back to me and it's exactly this i'm going to read this verbatim to you. We are key peppers so we were prepared but we had zero electricity. Not rolling for eighty four hours eighty four hours. The temperatures are home. Got to forty degrees is in the forties We were okay but we had supplies. The elderly in our area had it very hard. Lots of pipes and damage. But it's eighty degrees here today. Geo engineering is wacky bazeley. Unless you are a repor essentially or you see yourself as that way and are prepared for this stuff You may not be ready when something like this goes down on the individual level of the home level the apartment level whatever it is It would be great if the companies and these big organizations in the profit centers instead. We're prepared rain as we continue doubtlessly more information is gonna come out about how this catastrophe was handled. And that may change Everybody's view of the sequence of events. That's that's just the nature of how these sorts of investigations work on a side. Note you guys. I finally did it. I cheat my dream of getting a french amaury Which is an rc. I are just streets ahead as oh chicken. Cordon bleu or what are we talking here. They got some good stuff like the come with patty. There's one that's like bore petty b. o. a. r. The they've got some good stuff. I'll i'll i'll send picks when they come in but if as long as there's something laura orange in there i gotta ask you guys. Though in a year or two guys get the year that has already felt like half a year Let's just consider this a continuation of last year Just chock full of crazy historical unprecedented events. Where do you think this one. Ranks tough to say honestly because if the past several months have taught us anything it is that the motto for the motto for this year motto for last year the motto for last year was something right and the motto for this year. May well be but wait. There's more so. I'm having a tough time. I think it's a great question and it's one we should send to you our fellow listeners. How would you rank it. What else is not getting reported. Because we can assure you there's a lot and also how would somebody untangle the complicated situation of texas energy. What is the solution. And an how plausible do you think it is for that solution to be achieved a before another event like this occurs. We want to hear from you. We try to make it easy to find us online. You can find us on facebook and twitter where we are conspiracy stuff on instagram. We are conspiracy stuff. Show those are you know easy ways to follow along with us and maybe write to us. Another way is to join. 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Hey buddy good job last night on the golden gloves i i took some still screengrabs which i will be happy to get framed up for you of you in the background. All supporting kate with her nomination. I mean there was there was hollywood royalty. There were kids there were hangers on there. Was you and erin shells. I'll look how beautiful erronous look. How beautiful aaron is and then there you are in the back and i got actually got one of the screen shots when they went back to you guys. When kate didn't win whoever won. I don't remember who the was in the category but she didn't win and then they go back to these different boxes that they were putting up and you were already kind of walking away your everybody else like you're in the back pointed like you're walking out of the room i'm gonna sly was in a weird krishan because you know everyone was on the couch and i. I was late to the party in time right and it was time so i i'm in the back trying to dip down and get my face in there because you know i. It was a good opportunity for me to be seen by hollywood and maybe right for the listeners. Who don't know what we're talking about. We're talking about absolutely nothing right now but right talking about total horse shit yes. The golden globes basically a virtual event zoom calls dipping in. Everybody's home surroundings and oliver is in the back right behind little sister. Kate right behind mommy right by boston. Right behind writer. Who looks like he's ready to star in a bronx tale. Funny writer was so cute last night now. He looked like he was like a ballroom dancer with his pony tail and he looked. Oh you don't see the ponytail. So i just thought he s hair back so he's kinda just corralled his hair. Oh yeah yeah full. He was in full effect last night. Okay it was fun though. We had a good time man. We had a good time. It's funny because when we were waiting for the winner e-e-e-e-no were everyone's in the box and everyone's alone and then of course you've got kate and her insane family you know and it was so such a juxtaposition of everyone else who was waiting for their golden globe announcement. It's like it did strike me. And i took this picture i took too. I just sent you one of them. The one where. You're walking away with a i don't know what are you drinking a glass of champagne or wine or something. I have a martini in there. Okay but you're really lucky you know you're blessed and i think of one of the things that i've always admired about your family and we've talked a billion times that i knew kate. I i know you better is you. You both are always surrounded by people who love you. And i feel like you're you're looking for reasons to get together whether it's an aspen or it's used to be in greece. I don't know if you guys still do that but You travel in a huge pack. And i feel like you get such warmth and strength from having that kind of a family unit around you so while you story with your specific father is not good. Which is why we're in this. Podcast thing at all in. It's called daddy issues you really. You're really surrounded by a lot of love. I've always felt that about you. And i've always felt that about kate. You want family around. And i don't think everybody's like that and you have a cool family that you all challenge each other. Kurt will challenge you. Boston will challenge you why it will challenge you. Kate certainly challenges you and you've challenge all those people and you make them better and they make you better. I think you're you know for all the angst about your dad. I think you have a really good family situation Do you agree thank you. We do know we do. I mean there's no doubt about it. We all live ten minutes away from each other. That's important. I've i've tickled the idea of potentially moving to the valley but you know i'd be too far away. The cousins are all best friends. I mean we have very very tight family unit. Now it doesn't without. It's insanity i mean. Of course. there are the issues within a family. But i think we handle it well. We don't take anything to personally. There always has to be someone to step up. Who is the voice of reason because sometimes shit can get out of control between two family members and then that next. That other person has to come in and say okay. Wait a minute you guys this is. There's bigger things happening here. Then whatever squabble. We're going through like anything. Man like relationships and love and friendship and especially with family. It takes work. It always takes work. And you just remind i mean if you would ever allow and you wouldn't for a thousand reasons like keeping up with the hudson's because it really it it wouldn't be like the yeah. I wouldn't be like the other ones. Because i feel like it's it's a really positive environment. That's led by the patriarch and the matriarch Are a list celebrities like as a as you can get with your mom and kurt. You know on down through the kids. And now the kids kids and the everybody's dynamic and everybody's bring something to the taylor. Everybody's got a project or working on everybody's really taipei. Everybody's really got an opinion. And yet you guys all make it work and you wanna be around each other. I feel like stress. And insecurity and competitiveness would have driven wedges between so many of these different relationships. But you guys just make a work. Which i think is really interesting. Yeah and we talk about it to you. Know when there are the insecurities or potential wedge. You know united sits goodman. I mean. I'm i'm definitely blessed unlucky and so many so many ways you know. Of course i'm sure they'll be comments now being like you fucking prick you entitled little bitch had dare you talk about your life and how whatever struggles you might have. We're talking about good things. We're not struggling. I know but just wait. Just wait the comments and the pea shooters from the top of the bleachers. Really shouldn't matter Which they don't and they don't really know you and Or it was a it was a fun night man. it was it was. It was a fun gathering. You know everyone cates very strict with her cova protocol so we got like pcr tests and then rapid tests at the house and so appreciating something on top of that right. isn't she and her everyday. Yes but we also wanted to have a party you know with. There's only fifteen people there. Maybe but still we wanted to have some semblance of normalcy so we did. We could to get tested further out in advance and then even leading up to it so we could. Actually you know be together and hug and have a sort of a real interaction with each other and it was. It was a blast man. It was really. It was really fun. Well if you want really if you want to remind yourself what. Normalcy really is and being in like a public setting used to be like prior to the pandemic. Go to florida hall. I was like this is. This is how it was. I went down there with three friends to play golf. Two of which have already had covid. So you feel like you know. They're the golden children where you can just be around them. Because they've they've had gotten over it. Have the antibodies in my other friend Both he and i have not had it but we all felt good together and then we would go like. We went to a place to get some margaritas after the airport. On the way to the golf course and we're in a restaurant and it's pretty damn normal. I mean not totally but it's close and you know my god man. I remember what this feels like. There's actually kind of bar service and it's not about all eating and drinking. it's about being around other people and interacting. Now everybody's got masks on but you're also in a place where people are eating and drinking and so unless you're drinking or needing through your baskets coming down so we flew southwest down. There flew southwest back. I mean i i. i'm not even gonna say we're close man would close this thing is almost. We're going to be good end the summer. I think we're going to be. It's gonna be fun can be parties in the streets. Everyone's gonna be making love like it was after world war two baby. Booms gonna happen you. I'm just gonna lie down in the middle of sunset boulevard naked. Just see what happens. That'll be good. Cast that's what will happen a anything i'll sell. I'll sell anything for a price you know. I mean whatever's gonna make us money and whatever's going to give us some sort of popularity with daddy issues. I'm i'm willing to do so. I just came from a funeral which not doing it down but it it. Yeah it's just you know when you go to a funeral in in you you look at what's left behind after somebody passes away and in this case it's it's a dear family friend somebody that i kind of watched after when he was little And this kid had such a special guy Passed away at the age of thirty one. Oh and was Everything you read about like with these kind of larger than life Almost like a almost like a real life action heroes. Somebody that went. It was a great football player. Here in saint louis went to the naval academy was an all american linebacker. The naval academy became a marine then. Spent seven years touring going to different war torn places across the globe establishing security just being on the outer edges of then was becoming a firefighter and ended up taking his own life which it just it. Just you know it. You realize what's left behind and and the destruction and the devastation of of somebody. That is just that accomplished that strong of a personality and that that just was giving kid and really religious and just so many things going on. I think just battling with so much depression and some. Ptsd and who knows what. Whatever else from having played football and a wrestling and boxing and all these different combat situations. But it just makes you stop in this craziness of this world and you just you just become so thankful for for everything that you have around you and coming home and being with the boys and it's just well it's also not only that but just having you know being mentally healthy you know. I mean the way you're describing this guy. It seems like he had everything that he needed and wanted. I mean there's something except fees was something going on man it's just crazy crazy crazy shit. Yeah i mean and so many things just criss crossed and whether it was coverted. Isolation wasn't good for him and not being around a team not having a purpose that way and not did he have kids now. Never married I mean all american stud looking guy But all of that and then in the mid west was a blizzard like an arctic blast and it was snowing and just everything just the isolation and you think about all these people that have just had to be alone during this whole pandemic in dealing with that and worrying about the virus and worrying about loved ones in all that stuff just building on itself really dangerous time in the world for that struggle with mental health. And i you. And i've talked about our own battles with depression anxiety and there's so many varying degrees of it but but this was just a big put a pin in everything. Stop worrying about the little things. Stop stressing over the the day to day and the snarky comments. And that's that's why. I brought it up when he said you know. We'll just wait until the comments you know. Forget all that and we're we're so lucky and just need to realize all that we have not not with russia to comments but just in life and oh yeah yeah and then you know you need those people around you to also help you through things. Meaning you know if you have that depression if you have that mental if some sort of a mental breakdown or a mental illness you know. I'm wondering why he didn't or if even try to get help. Oh yeah he. He went through all that went through all that. But but then once you go through not just the pandemic but you go through like this. The whole mid west was frozen two weeks ago. Nobody was moving anywhere and he was by himself in his apartment a cadet at the kansas city. Kansas fire department and it just things compounded in the worst possible result Happened but yeah so anyway. I'm thankful for you. I'm thankful for all that that I have the people that i get to love every day. The people that love me. So let's get back to concentrate on good. I agree i agree. What was his name. Matt brewer uproar. Just an absolute. I mean he was Hero and to. Here's here's the last thing. I'll say about this because i don't tune into podcast but but to see his sister and his brother speak on his behalf and how much this man meant to them and then his mom get up and give the eulogy which was just so deep and so emotional and so brilliantly worded and delivered It's just it's equal parts emotionally distressing. Because you're watching these people just melt up there and then it's impressive that you can get through it. I had to do it for my own. Father i d. i had to give my dad's eulogy and you know my half sister went. I you would have. You would have approved of this line by half sister gets up gives. My dad gives her eulogy of my dad. And then i'm waiting in the front row the church the pew at the church and get up and my opening line was. It's not a good feeling when you're sitting there listening to a eulogy that you know is better than the one you wrote i did. I was like christine. killed it and Here's here's what. I came up with night. Yeah if you ever want to procrastinate. Try writing a eulogy for somebody. Oh my god it's just relating even all of this back to the theme of our show as my boys and girls but wilder thirteen. He's getting older the hormone start to kick in and you begin to sort of wonder what they're thinking because they get they go inward a little bit and you're always wondering if they're okay or i'm wondering okay is he is he. Okay i know he seems down but and I know it's probably just tripping but at some sometimes you get nervous because you do hear about kids and depression. Just when they know they're going inside it's hurry go inside a little bit and you want them to express themselves to you you know. But at the same time you can't force them to And and a at times to say i'm fine. I'm fine but you can sort of feel their energy and then you have to weigh the balance not to win that one of how many times can you say are you okay. Are you okay. But like jesus price dad i know i know. And then you make them not okay with your fucking constant g you know jabbing them. Are you okay But i'm in that moment. Where i you know you think you think you know how to handle things but you know you got to sort of let go trust. Trust their words and then also trust your instincts. I'm not saying in any way. Wilder has depression. But you know he's just he gets moody he's a teenager. It's just hard nine. It's you're reading into body language. You yeah you you're also you're also reading body language and you're all vibe off somebody and you're reading so much these days you know about children and mental health and children's suicide and you know my mom has been as foundation called mind up and she's been working on this for almost twenty years. So you know i. It's just about the mental health children and how we're going to sort of fix that and implementing you know her program to the curriculums and school. Which the conversation. But i've been. I've been around and you're seeing this uptick in children's mental health issues and suicide and of course you know you're clicking on headlines all the time that are click bates but at the same time you're sort of seeing what's going on out there so sometimes i got as my mike. Okay i know where we good and parents. But i wanna make sure that like every screw is tightened in there so you got to walk this line. I'm walk. i walk this line sometimes of okay. We'll let him be. Don't don't don't get on his ass so much for the same time. Pay attention attention to that. Won't go away. I'm that way with my girls. And i because i i just live in fear of as you said it not being but down as tight as i think it is from the outside and nobody knows what somebody's dealing with internally or what. The thoughts are with that voice in your head. But yeah i did one of those events for your mom and i wanna get goldie hawn talking bring up mind up and and what just just taking basically in this is a bastardisation of what she's doing but it's the best i got is taking a moment Even a period in the normal school day to stop and either meditate do yoga. Whatever it is to bring peace in the hectic school day that we all experienced. It's just a chance to implement these programs into these schools into school systems. That i think really has value because these kids are bombarded with so many outside. Well yeah the other thing is. They don't know why they feel the way they do. Sometimes right and so what. Her program does an educational as well. It's not just about. It is about mindfulness about breathing. You know and taking control of your stress but it's also understanding where it comes from from an from From educational stamp points. You learn about your amiya freak. Parental free front prefrontal cortex. You understand why you're feeling these things and when you do have that that feeling of anxiety or stress or depression you then understand. Oh wait this is where it's coming from an it makes it easier. You know young you know when when you know something you don't it doesn't you. Don't stress about it as much exactly and you can't just medicate or treat the result you have to treat. You really have to go back and unwind it and treat the reasons why you get to the result which is depression. You what what is it. How do you get back to that or understanding like you said the anatomy and and how that works inside a human brain. So there's such value in that and i was. I'm so proud that your mom is that dedicated to that man. If we could just get her contact to get her on this show. Yeah you have. Her people know Tried and tried. And like if you had your mom right now you have to go through an intermediary. Yes i probably call her agent at. I seen him. They would contact her assistant her assistant. Would they get in touch with me right schedule. A time and usually schedules six weeks out. So i- every six weeks. I schedule a meeting with her. Okay good teams formalized. There's paul scheer everybody. Hey if you like conversations with incredibly funny actors go checkout the daddy issues archives and listen to our conversation with comedian and actor adam sandler where we discuss everything from raising daughters to mortality to adams relationship with his dad being kurt russell's neighbor and so much more i remember i was in. I was in the driveway with my dad and nice for no reside. Said you ever with anybody before mom and he looks at me he goes. You know there was for your mother. I it was. It was a time where i was called practice practice with a couple of women before you. I screaming and i can't. I left a car. I ran out and i was talking to my brother. 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Yasmin is now a trusted voice. During the pandemic helping debunk mess and misinformation about the corona virus. So be mindful of that. When you are not much as good life advice i take a breath and be like why. Why am i feeling this way. And then do your due diligence before you like shaft. Send it to all your. what's up. Family group chats. I'm justin beck. Founder and ceo of contact world listened to contact world the podcast on the iheartradio app. Or wherever you get your podcasts paul. We were just talking about the fact that if oliver needed to get in touch with his mom as we scheduled you and thank god. You're you're willing to come on the podcast. But if oliver if we tried to get goldie hawn as a guest. Couldn't it couldn't happen. Because oliver has to go through so many different intermediaries to get to his mother to actually ask her. Because we've been doing this for you know damn near fifty episodes and and really nobody from his family has come on. I i had a fifty layer buffer between me and my mom would be that bad of a deal as your mom as your mom. Been on your podcast. No no no no i. I keep her at arm's reach in in in the performance and in life. But i i don't want to get on mike disco. Describe we describe your mom. I want to hear this. I want to. I want to see this through to she. She my mom in your business is she would tell. My mom is an incredibly capable smart woman. She's seventy one years old She ran multiple hospitals in new york. City she just came out here to l. a. about two years ago but she just is the way i describe it with her is. She's done her entire life by the book like everything is black and white. There's an answer for that. There's an answer for that. So when she's out here and she's kinda retire. There's a lot of questions a lot of questions. And she also ran her car into a burger king with that that that was a recent That was a recent thing ran her car into a burger king. And when asked why she it was because the The the The people who wash your car they. They washed the gas pedal too much. They yeah so lawsuit so she's she's good. It's sort of like it's a million. It's a million million questions all the time. is very basic. But it's it's lovely. It's lovely well. You know what you know. What's interesting and i've said this before. But you know the the only time that i truly understood the love that my parents had for me is when i had kids right because to me is unconditional love when your children come into your life. Of course you love your wife and you'll have your friends and family and i'm only speaking for myself right sure but there's always conditions right. I mean there's just always is when the kid comes into the world you're vulnerable and i'm not afraid to love them and be vulnerable with them and tell them how much i love them. There's i don't. I don't risk anything you know. And then i think about my mother and the way that she still loves me and all the times jesus mom okay but now i get it you know. Yeah i think you know. I think it's you when you have a kid. It's the only relationship that you have no fear of it ending right like even if they abandoned you you will be there for them or at least the the idea. Yeah you're right. I mean there's something really interesting about that and i get it. Yeah it's very It's interesting how to navigate the evolution of what a parent is as you get older. Which is i think something. That's always a tricky to kind of figure out. Like where do you fall because it a certain age you have to just be the provider and then you become the authority figure and then as you get older. You don't need those things. So what is the relationship become. But they'll always worry about you nonstop. Grace oh yeah. I mean oh totally and it's so true. I think without getting into my entire situation which. I have a thousand times at my dad. Sort of you know. She left when i was younger dude and maybe twelve years old. He was out of my life. I had kurt who raised me. But still you know there was always just a fear of loving and then getting annihilated again. You know unconscious at the time of done plenty of work. But it's like what you said with your kids. You just don't have that in it's the most freeing thing ever you know. What about your relationship with your dad I have a great relationship with my dad. My dad is my parents are divorced Very early on in my life so my parents got divorced. When i was about three years old but the interesting thing about That relationship was they hid it from me until i was five And the way that they did that was. My dad would leave the house when i went to sleep and then get there before. I got up so every day. He was creating this or they were creating this idea. They didn't want me to feel like i was in a divorced household. I guess until about know five. I put this time in and kind of slowly transition me into it And so in that way may my dad who was divorced from my mom was very much a big part of my life and continued to stay that part of my life so i was lucky in the sense that i would see my dad on tuesdays and thursdays and then go over to his house on the weekends and you know my parents had a good relationship with each other so that was really nice And so it's always like it was always a benefit but also kind of tricky because they got along so well that it didn't understand why they weren't necessarily together you know And then my mom had gotten married to another guy actually two different guys and you know that brings a whole nother set of problems in too. Because i think when you have You know like polygamy galina two different guys look where we live in the right state. It all works out. I'm a big fan of sister. Wives i relate to it on many levels because i myself have four sister was But no it's it's tricky because you bring another man in to a situation and it's a goal here is my ex and here's my kid and you know and i think the first person my mom married had definite Insecurity issues like as i grow older now and i'm apparent i look at that and go. That was handled badly. I think it's it's tricky because when you come in as a divorced or when you come in as a parent who is like now subbing in right like you're going to be there like you have to kind of walk that line and interesting way and i feel like both of my step. Father didn't necessarily do that. One was very much distant. Like you come to me and the first one was like no. I m your dad and i didn't need and so that was tricky like you know it's funny. I was thinking about it the other day like mice first. Stepdad made me call him dad and didn't realize up. That was until really. I was telling it to a friend the other day. Oh yeah it was never like a choice. It was just like. I had to call this person dad and that was so interesting because i this it happened with me where you know. There was a situation when my dad came to pick us up at the house. Kurt was in our lives and it didn't go well and he stormed out and did not take us with him and it was a traumatic moment for my sister and i and at the time. I don't even remember what we called curb. But we didn't call him dad and we didn't call him kerr. I don't even know what the hell we call him but he he had a little family meeting with us and he goes okay here. Here's one thing is one thing is certain that whatever happens with your mother and i i will always be in your life and i will make that commitment to you number one number two. We gotta figure out a name because you can't call me curt and you can't call me dad because i'm not sure dad. So let's figure this out and we came up with paw so we still to this day. All how ha- communal decision. I like that. That's really nice. Yeah which is always freaked me out because you guys are like hollywood royalty and you're calling kurt russell snake skin. You're calling him. Hough growing up in the middle of kansas lickin yeah yeah pau kind of feel tumbleweeds going through but off feels like a great name for kurt russell. Like i feel like if. I'm looking at kurt russell. Paw like i wouldn't like there is a he. He has a gravitas. That pa like feels like a special thing. It's very much like was it bonanza. Kind of a name like right field of the earth. The ads i. it's funny. You even saved fucking bonanza because his dad being russell. Okay sheriff on. That's how hollywood these people are basically. It's it's it's less than six degrees of separation from pau. I mean really get there less than six. Degrees of separation from bonanza. I think everybody can get the bonanza and six degrees last thing about pau. What also struck me as that. Your close friends and cates. Kurt close friends call. Kurt pau sort of taken on a life you know everyone's paw paw now. That's my wife who inherited in essence. My teenage girls. When we got together got married was taught by her stepfather. The role of being a great step is knowing when to step in knowing when to step back knowing when to step up for someone knowing when to step out and get out of the way. And and that's what. I thought about that paul. Because if you're coming in you know like the first man that your mom married after your dad demanding that the kid call the kid call you dad. That's that's an aggressive step to take. That's something that should come either naturally or you do. What oliver and kate and audited. Yeah i think it's just. There's no handbook on how to do it. And certainly we are in an age now where we are way more open and have these conversations and there are more resources. You know i'm this is happening probably in the eighties. You know and and in new york not in a place that was like incredibly greg rupp Cultural or anything was like I married your mom your dad you know there was a certain thing so i do think that kids nowadays get such a better or i hope There's more possibilities open to them. Because i think there are people. There's even if there's a book out there. It's better than where i feel like. We were a longtime ago. How did you. How did you go from your early childhood into. Were you always funny real. Always somebody that wanted to get up in front of other people and make them laugh. What we're where do you think. I'm i'm fascinated. Always a talking to people who make others laugh especially on camera how that happened. and what. How were you traced that back to where he said. I'm going to stand on stage and and i'm gonna make people really enjoy their time with me Well i think like people whatever you get interested in his because you find some passion their right like like for me. I remember so clearly. I this may be. This is dating one hundred percent but he got back in the day when you have. You have a cable box right and you would have to turn the dial on the cable box to get to the different channels and that meant that some channels were not clear and But you could still kind of hear them. And when i was a kid. I would sneak downstairs and put on the hbo channel. And if you just kind of maneuvered the knob just a little bit you would get slightly less blurry image kinda like straddle that that knob. And that's when i saw eddie. Murphy's red sued delirious standard. I shall and i remember like all the lights off in my parents house like crying with laughter now probably part of it was like i was doing something that felt like legal and probably. There's other kids at this point. Who that to the playboy channel. I'm literally like your stuff on the scrambled up there. Working that dial like my god. I saw me too and narrowly avoided the porno industry. Because of that. So yeah. I was well. Everyone else is doing that. I was watching. Eddie murphy and a red suit and being this is the funniest thing and and my dad. Even my dad was a really great entry. Point into comedy like he would tape saturday. Night live every saturday night. And then on sunday morning when i would get up we would watch it with breakfast and it was like so fun like so. I just felt like i was a part of this thing. Nick at nite was playing saturday. Night live so in my whole upbringing. It was like i loved that looking. I grew up with like the billy crystal. Christopher guest you know eddie murphy. That version of the cast was like kind of and then as i got older like when i got like you know like adam sandler and farley and all those people so So yeah. I just like that was my absolute passion. I didn't think about doing anything more than that. I would make radio shows in my bedroom. Mike literally you know just host a radio show. You don't cut the clips and music. But again i didn't think there was any outlet for it and then when i was going to College my girlfriend at the time was taking an art class and she was like so fulfilled by her art class. And i was going to. Nyu so is in new york and and And she was like. Oh yeah just love this art class. And i was like you know what i want. I want to do something i want. What can i do. That's creative and i'd done like highschool shows and stuff like that and i found this place called chicago limits in chicago limits. Was this improv place. That i saw when i was back in high school and i was so blown away by that. And i just got involved in this improv scene in new york and then the world started to kind of open up to me but again i was going to school. I had no idea of pursuing it and then the ucb the upright citizens brigade came to town. And i started seeing them. And i was like. Oh my god. This is amazing. I just kept on kind of doing it on the side with no because everybody was around. They weren't doing it professionally. It was like oh. The biggest person that i knew at the time had gotten a commercial so there was no thought like oh. I'm going to then turn into. This and i wasn't doing standup. So i kind of fell into it ass backwards in a way like i kind of fell into it in a way where i just kept on feeling like i want to take a class. I want to meet these people. Want get in. And i just happened to get involved in all these places very young and Early on and then this made all these connections and and got to this place. But it wasn't like i want to be on. Snl and everything. I'm doing is working towards us now. Like i love this. It makes me laugh. I make my friends laugh or make my videos. I do all this sort of stuff. But i had no real idea of how to execute that and i with it a little bit but yeah. That's that's kind of how i mean. It's a compact version of it. But that's basically it just like really you know goes go from doing like shows at thanksgiving in front of like the thanksgiving table where i was literally taking david letterman monologues and jay leno monologues performing that as my own material to then you know then then really graduating. Nyu graduate graduating at carnegie hall and rethink off that stage to run downstairs downtown to seventeenth street to do an improv show. That night i was more excited about my improv show than graduating at nyu and that's kind of so great. It's just yes passion. I mean it's just it's just pure pure pure passion. And i think didn't know that there was any endgame it was almost like it wasn't like it wasn't a. I'm doing this to get to that to do this. It's everything kind of fell in my lap in a nice way. Yeah do you still operate like that. You know i know you're in a play a different place. Now you have. Yeah you have success. You have celebrity. You have some fame. you have some money. Do you still operate at that. Base level of you know just pure passion or do you have to be calculated. Now that we're in this crazy fucking business. I think you have to operate from passion. Because i agree. This businesses bizarre. It's weird but if you spend your whole time like looking at other people's paper and you look at you know what even is going on in our like industry world. Whatever it's like you will drive yourself crazy because you are not that person and i think you can only find the thing that clicks because you can. I found this so many times. Like you can do the thing that you think you should be doing. And that doesn't necessarily bring you any success right. You could also do something joys ing yeah it you could do something amazing that no one sees and that doesn't bring you any success and there's so many factors at work out like for for example like you just saw like at the golden globes like ted ted lasso. Everyone's talking about ted lasso. Now there's a world where no one talks about headlines of but whatever it is that show a kicks in a moment where people all get on it. Shits creek is a perfect example. Ed show on for like seven years and then all of a sudden the pandemic hits and everyone's like oh what shits creek and then it wins everything so you never know so i just think you have to just. It's not enough to like if you equate like success by f- excess success by like how people respond to you. You're gonna drive yourself nuts because it's so hard to judge what is popular what people deem as popular but if you judge success by like you being fulfilled by what you're doing. I think you're gonna live a better healthier life not saying that. It's always easy to do that. But i mean yeah you know. I think that's the goal. And i when i first started my career. It was always kind of doing the things that i wanted to do. but again like stupidly not calculatedly. You know We'll fast forward though till now. Okay because this is a you know. I guess not an issue that i have. Life has been great. My career has been great. Have i done things. That are like really creatively fulfilling. I mean not really not yet. You know. And i'm forty four and i've been i consider myself to be very successful and yeah to tv movie business but now that you have children okay. Yeah yes passion always has to have a play in it but do you have to put food on the table. Because i find myself sometimes thinking okay. I might not necessarily want to do this. But i have to keep going. You know. I have to make some money. I have to maintain my lifestyle. I have to do this. I mean how much sacrifice creatively do you have to make your kids and for your family. That's a good question. I think he's gone to that point. Yeah no i think it's a balance. I'm very lucky to have a wife who is also in this business and also is Successful in this business so there are points in in both of our careers where we may not have. You know a money gig right. We may have some that. Were doing that. May lead to a money gig and but we can balance each other out. i've been lucky that look i've had highs and lows i've i have my oldest kid is six years old and my youngest is force. I've these two boys and they're great and right now. I'm going through something actually really hard with them because my wife got this movie in canada because of covid. I don't have a work permit. So i'm not allowed in canada so i couldn't go to canada and even if i did go to candidate have quarantine for fourteen days so i couldn't do that because i'm shooting black monday right now so right now for the first time ever in our lives. I've been away for my kids for me like fifteen sixteen days at this point. Which is the longest ever been away from my kids and my entire a long time. Yeah and and and there's a world in which i won't see them until april fourteenth. There's also a world where they come back earlier but in that world and my wife is alone in canada with like literally. Nothing there because she can't go out you can't you can't. You're you're stuck in this kind of quarantine hole so we're trying to balance out to our whole lives are always about bouncing out and making sure that we are taking care of each other and whether that's financially whether that is emotionally physically and balancing the kids and and doing all the stuff i it's hard because this is the first time where if it was normal there was no covert i be able to go to canada and come back and see the kids and do everything but right now. We're kind of stuck in this thing. So i think we have to. We have to understand the car. You need to see the kids now. We need to send the kids back But you need them too. So there's always this balance right so it's a sacrifice of maybe. She doesn't take that job the next time. Or maybe you know. Or maybe what i do is i. If i'm not working. I go with her when she was shooting longshot. We were in montreal. And i went with her to montreal with the kids and the nanny and we all went and it was a may. It was a hard time. Actually it wasn't a we were in an apartment and It was small. It was freezing cold out and she was working fourteen hour days five days a week. Fridays that go into saturday mornings. So she's kinda even gone out on saturday because she's still tired from friday so it was really really hard but as a family. We made that kind of sacrifice. 'cause i could be there and i left to go on tour and i left to go do at that point. The disastrous getting like going to their all the rounds on the awards circuits. I was leaving but it was. We have to balance that at all times. And you're right like there's certain times where you are psyched because get a quick money gig in. It's not for up something bad. But i think that both of us protect each other from taking something that we really wouldn't want to take it just to put food on the table and i think it may come to that and that may be a another conversation but i think we really try to protect each other back. Don't worry about it this is the okay you can say no to that or you can say yes to that and if that makes sense very long windy yeah totally and i think the other side of it is. It is a benefit in the same situation with my wife when your wife understands what the business yes requires of you and and so i have that. I'm in sports broadcasting my wife's in sports broadcasting different corner of it. You know when when you have those common experiences and she knows the stresses on you. You know the stresses on her. It takes so much of the angst out of the whole equation that you can kind of really stay focused on each other are you. Are you pretty good at turning all the business off being quiet being locked into her her indie. You while you've got so many people pulling at you to to perform or to you know to to rehearse to do all these other things that require extra time. Are you good at being able to kind of taking time out for each other. My wife is great at it. And i'm so thankful for having an amazing Wife who is like she can shut all that stuff. I actually think. And not to whatever i don't think it's sexist to say but i think women are better at just going like now we're here and now we're doing this and like and she has really instilled in me and again i have. Two young kids This family time like at five o'clock we are are five thirty. We're not working on set family. Time has begun at our house and it will go into put the phone down. I mean you could be on your with your business with her. You could be on the phone all night if they wanted to be. And so we at five five. Thirty phones are down. Were doing dinner. Where playing a game. We're doing a bath time bed story. Whatever we're doing that that run and that's we keep that kind of area sacred. Look we've had a year essentially being in our house to But but we keep that time really sacred for each other and the morning too. I think until nine. Am again when we're not shooting until nine is like i have a running around. We're getting the kids ready. we're doing you know. Get him dressed for getting the food or they're out the door or when they were out the door but yeah but but you know When i should say when hernandez comes at nine but But yeah so. We try to block those times at the weekends we really. It's look we both have a lot of things on our plate but my wife has really instilled in me. That idea and i have to say like now that the kids have been gone in. June has been gone for fifteen days. I gotta say that being alone for the first time in a long time has actually shown me what that does for my mental state. Having that family time it actually makes me a better person. Like i feel like it calms me down. It relaxes me. It is like a moment to to stop. Because i think when i'm not in that zone i don't stop i'll just keep going and then all of a sudden it's eleven o'clock at night i've eaten dinner but you know watching a basketball game but i'm like but i'm not like a not stop. I'm working on like i'm not really enjoying anything. I'm just kind of like continuing to work. Work work work work and just go through and some really appreciative. That kind of just built into me. So yes she. She really is phones down. Let's be together connect in and And then you know and even in our car when we're driving. She will not like she has to drive. Because that's her thing and so i'm often the passenger and when when i am the passenger like i'm not allowed on my phone that's actually a good thing too so it's sort of like we are to get like we are together and those cartridges with my wife for probably the highlight of anytime 'cause we really are completely cut off from everything and it's the best. You do meditate. I know you try try. Try to i try to i. I really a lot of that stuff. I know how to. I like to the idea of taking twenty minutes at the top and the bottom of the day with kids. I'm like oh no yo n work and you. Isn't it weird though how hard it is. Because look i've been. I've been on and off meditating for a long time and when i get consistent i know how amazing it amazing can make me feel and how you know even starting the day with it. I'm like holy shit. I feel good. I'm ready to go. But there's that fucking block and it's not that we can't make ten minutes in our day. Because i'm making ten minutes for a thousand other. Things have vip for ten minutes. Yeah i'm like dude. Just go sit down and do it. But i there's a resistance you know that i don't even know where the hell that comes from. No i think you know. I feel like the thing that i'm always dealing with. His my schedule is not set like today right now. I'm here with you but that's not my ten. Am is different every day. Where ram so. It's sort of like. And i think i really appreciate people who really carve out time. Like i heard david lynch. And obviously he's the guru of meditation. But you know like he does a thing where like on his sets. There are okay. When we're shooting. This is going to be this downtime. We're going to have it is going to happen. I think it's like once after lunch but it's it's blocked out. It's in the schedule. It's like and i think being aware of that time and being respectful of that time. And that's a hard thing that i have to do with my own thing like which i will. I will not make time for me. I will make sure that. I'm here for you at the time. You guys need me to be here. But i won't necessarily show up if i said oh it at ten. Am i'm going to take ten minutes and meditative like well. You know what i'll do. I'll do this first. And they'll go over here. And then i'll do that and then i've lost it in. Its twelve thirty. Because there's something inside you i at least there is in me. I i remember talking to my therapist talking about refilling my prescription having to actually go get another script to get my prescription for this antidepressant that i take. Yeah i said. I know i just keep putting it off putting it off so i went through a stretch. Wasn't really taking it. She's like why. Why do you think you do that. If it was for your kids you'd run through the wall to get that refilled right away. First thing you would do but for yourself. You're willing to just kind of kicked that can down the street and eventually you'll get to it at some point. You have to get over the idea that taking care of yourself. That's not being selfish. That's that's writing yourself up. And and i feel like that. Sometimes i get to that like you know if i do this for me. I'm really cheating other people maybe that's narcissism. Maybe that's because. I think i'm so valuable to everybody else that i'm not gonna take time out. They need me so badly and yet. That's not the case and you should really take care of yourself as much as you're trying to take care of everybody else. It's a lesson that i think i am learning and an constantly to work on. I think you know it's so easy to fall into the trap especially as a dad Or you know where you are concentrating care of somebody else and then you can almost take pride in that care for someone else and there's no there's no shame in also making time for yourself. I think the thing. I've learned about myself and the more messed up thing about the way i think about stuff is like i can only earn relaxation. I can only earn these things so they let you know. So it's like. Oh li yeah right right you know and so i'm always constantly putting myself. Did i did a do it lena. Dunham said this one thing. That really love and i think about it all the time. Where she's in this business in this world in this life and i'm paraphrasing greatly here We have to be comfortable and we have to understand that. We're not gonna get everything that we need to get done done. And you've got to go to bed just knowing that and not feeling bad about it. And i feel like that's like a pressure that they trying to get over to. Yeah i don't like just because it's not done doesn't mean i can't go and do something else you know i can like. Sometimes you gotta let things sit and and make those carve out those moments for breaks for time for mental health. Even if it's like again like watch a movie watch. Tv show that gives yourself these moments. Because you'll come back more refreshing. That's what meditating is to a certain degree it's like check it all out and then come back right well. It's the pyramid schemes. The top of the pyramid right. We're at the top and then everything. Everything's everything trickles down. So if we're at our best of were but are at at at our optimum then our relationship is better with their wife than our than our. The way we parent is better. Everything is better if yeah are better at the top absolutely yeah. That's the age old. That's the age old tired line that there is give you about. It's the same as being on an airline when they say. Put your mask on before you sister because you need to be at your best to be to take care of your kids. It's just hard to do. And i think most people that are successful. That are wound tight. And i'm certainly wound tight. I sense you are paul. I oliver isn't but most people that are wound tight have to get everything done. And i admire oliver's ability to to not be stressed out as i am. I wish i could be less stressed. I can't accomplish it if there's if their emails on my phone. They all have to get after emails. The end of the day or i'm like a lunatic going to sleep that that's how tightly wound. I am i. Where are you on that spectrum. Paul you i think i'm i'm i'm probably edging. I'm probably more on your side. Edging to wear oliver is. That's the that's my goal is to kind of get. Just get myself to not to not be like to not judge myself. Based on what i've accomplished or what i'm doing right because i think i was added. This thought the other day a lot of this has been put in perspective this last week or two weeks. Because i've been alone so i think there's always this idea and again i because i have young kids. I'm still in the fresh part of it. Where i'm like. Oh man you know. If i not that i didn't have kids. I'm not like i don't wish that but i'm like oh i can't get all this stuff done but now i don't have kids right now like i mean i have them but they're not physically obligations and it's still not getting everything done and i'm almost finding that i was more productive in those eight hours a day when i'm at home and not onset where i'm like. This is my time to work. And then that's it. And then i'm putting it on the side and that kind of is really eye opening to me because i'm like well. What if i like. I could work all day and all night. And i'll get everything done and guess what i'll wake up in the morning and they'll be in bunch of new things to do the next day so it's like when they go. It's a race that never ends so like. Why am i all right. Yeah i'll do a little bit and get back and do the things that are important. Coupon leading leading leading with what you know. What's in front of you. That's i try now. I'm trying. I'm trying to get to that point now. I know i look at the be personally. I wish i was the other a little bit more of the other. Because i feel like i'm a well of untapped potential. You know just because. I live a weird deathbed scenario. Where what am i going to remember when mom surrounded by the loved ones in my life and it's my time to go. Megan remember a golden globe or an oscar or a movie or tv show. I did a lot of people will. And that's fine but for me. i just. That's not what's most important to me. You know but at the same time. I stress about you know staying in the mix and you know trying to do the things that i wanna do. Yeah i mean honestly. I don't work hard enough. I feel like. I've got a lot of talent that has yet to even be haven't even scratched the surface of what i feel like. I think i can do. This is what i'll say to you going back to what you brought up originally like the idea of like passion y. I am overwhelmed with the work. That i have to do is because i get involved in too many things. I am too excited to work on too many things. So i look at my wife and my wife will be incredibly focused right now. She is working on a show. She is on a show But she's working on a show and that's chew thinks on so i'm working you know i'm writing and then also on a show me i'm like okay. I got a twitch them on and be doing. I'm writing show. I have an animated thing. I want to be doing. I have this other thing that i'm trying to get done. I think. I want to write these essays on that. I'm making sure that i get like you know. I'm i'm doing all these podcasts. And so everything. I want alternating podcast podcasts to them. Yeah so it's like so. I get so my my issue is i live a buffet a buffet life. You know in the sense of like. Oh i wanna try that and that and that and i don't feel overwhelmed by what i have because i want to do it all but it's still i still have to eat it all or you know. Are you like. I've put all that stuff on my plate. It's all my plate and it's all my fault and my wife is really good at not overwhelming herself with that and i looked to that. But that's the hard thing about following the passion sort of because there could be a world where you know what i'm doing this now and i look at a lot of my peers creek. No that's my job. And now i'm done with that job and now look for my next job and then i'll do that job and and maybe there's an insecurity there where i have to have like twelve different things going on at once to put food on the table to feel like i'm in the mix too feeling productive but it's also all those things as somebody who i creighton and do all this stuff where it actually fuels me. When i'm doing too little of things. I get depressed. I want to be doing more. So it's finding that balance. And and and i know it's like i i. It's also remembering what you wanna do to. If you're enjoying this episode of daddy issues don't keep it to yourself. 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I'm always i'm always trying to engage now not to say that i am nailing that at all times but i wanna like i wanna foster what they're involved in. I want to listen to them. I want to hug them. I was on a movie that heraldry misdirected called year one and harold ramos one of the best. The best you know Yeah just like a comedy. God and one of the things. They looked up to that. I saw when he was onset was his sons on set and they were older. I would say like maybe like there the college age and he had such a physically affectionate relationship with them. Oh wow what. I wouldn't give for that like. I want to be a dad. And this is way before i had kids. But they're so nice tobacco he can still have that. I think i'm always thinking about that as far as my kids to being physically affectionate with them making sure that they you know That i just wanna keep those like As much as i can. I want them to feel safe comfortable and confident in me and keep this love going in a in a good way like you know. I think maybe i'm not physically affectionate with my parents. I love them. And i have great relationships with them but they were to hug or anything like that and it's so odd because my want is t to kind of do the but there. It's just a little bit more awkward. So i i really try to know that's in my head to. I guess you know you have you have you. Have you heard the book. The five love languages. Oh yeah absolutely okay. So we i do another podcast with my sister. Dr gary chapman. He wrote the book we had. Because we just loved that. Jeff books. That i didn't realize that he's written sort of you. Know other than the five language love but same same concept of pertaining to children and i got i got the book and it's so interesting and it's so easy to connect the two but i just never did. I always thought. Oh this is in the romantic version or with your partner. It's the same with children. like kids. have a way that they they they wanna be loved and that they love and they might not be conscious of it yet. But when i read the book like oh my god. It opened up my eyes to my own children. Yeah you know like wild or my oldest is my sensitive boy and You know he's a little squirmy when when when he's physical right he. He likes to cuddle. But it's on almost on his terms when he comes in grabs me but when i grabbed him sometimes like he's she accepts it but he gets a little squirmy you know whereas whereas my my middle kid bodey is just all about love and and rio is kissy in this this and that but they have their love languages as well. You know what i mean. Which is so weird. I didn't yeah blowing my mind. Because i'm seeing it in my own. Two kids make my kids are realizing again. I'm putting a lot through this lens of the fifteen days they've been gone. But it's actually been really helpful to kind of isolate some things. Because when i get facetime my kids i interact with them in very different ways like it's so it's not that far apart in age is oh. I know that this is going to be the way that he might. Youngest will actually be on the phone with me because he will not be on the phone with me. We can't like chat and my oldest We have very distinct ways. It's like and once. I figured that out once. I kind of crack that because when they're at home it's easier you were fooling around where you know you have to carve out this time and i was really kind of amazed at. Wow these are like once. I cracked my youngest like i felt so good. Oh now i know how to do this. I know how to talk to my and it made me feel great. And i feel like he wants to talk on the phone a lot by mike but it it. It was trying to figure out what he needed from that interacts. Yeah yeah i'm impressed. And and i want to show of hands and their three people whose cameras are on right now of anybody. Who's actually read an entire self-help parenting or love book front to back. Every word and highly. Now i mean can can you get through the whole thing. I started pensions. You see i am. This is where. I'm the tightly wound person. I can't not finish a book. I've made this commitment to this book. And then now and only lately. I've i've been able to like give that so i've read like the four agreements i've read Love languages. I read the secret. I've read the gilbert about your soul. I've not read that. Read that one. You'll dig that i've tried. I've actually have been trying to get out of the books in love book. Because i'm like i'm feeling then i'm like oh i gotta think about this. I read that. Gt book getting things done. And sometimes they get me. I started reading all these books that were all about making my life. Better fuck i can't. I'm dawn. I actually like a live my life and read a fiction booker. Give me about a murder. Yup daniel silva great fiction. Yeah great characters go there go there for a little bit. I feel like every time. I get into a self help book and i'm like one chapter in a mike man i am. This is i am going to come out of this a better stronger or wealthy and i get to like chapter three and then i started looking at the person's picture on the back and i'm like is this. This is. I want to have lunch with this guy. He might be fucking insane. And i'm i'm reading every word like it's written in the bible and i don't know if the guy's good i don't know if i'm coming. Thank screen writing classes. All these people here's a. steers tip. Here's the secret to success and it's like well will. Is this class being taught by aaron. Sorkin it's not all in my daughter's junior at usc film school. She's all in on the master class. Top by ernst sorkin. I'm like yes. That's and the and the i think i think there's a part of it which is like these books. Serve to just give you a motivation to start thinking like it. We need like a little bit of a kick. So i feel like yes do i remember. Can i quote to you for grits. No but i remember love languages. Do i remember everything about no. But it's it's like these little chunks that we can use to help like reframe things. But i know that there's a service now a book service which i should get this. It's like five minute versions of all those books. They take all those books and compact cliff notes down to all right. What is the book. here it is. Here's the notes of the cliff notes. Somebody just read it incredibly fast. It's what you get out of it. Yeah and it's and i think what we can spend so much time we spend so much time constantly reframing our own lives and a certain point we have to live our lives and learn from it and and and you know it and we're not. There's no perfect way to live. There's no right way to do it. Like i think we are open to. Which would be open to criticism. We should be open to We should be open to apologize and we should be open to all these things and this live our lives. And sometimes i well. That's for me. I got overwhelmed by. I'm not doing it the right way out. I do it the right way. And it's like well but the way for me. Is that the right way for you. And and i yeah and once i started in this is actually something really important to learned. And i'm getting better at not fully eradicated but i'm stopping. I'm not judging people anymore. By what i would do or how i am like so people are not productive for example. If i'm on a if i'm running show and i'm in the middle of something i have one writer who am i. Wide affected. he stay up until two in the morning. And do that thing. I would be upset with that person. Wouldn't come out because i'm too passive. It wouldn't come out angrily. But i would be like disappointed in that person and instead what kind realized is oh just because i would stay until two in the morning doesn't mean that somebody else should. I have to now understand the when that person will be productive and like feed into that person that have my version of me on that person that makes sense and that's been the biggest thing that oh well well by the way that that relates to parenting right. Who i mean. Everyone does it so differently and you just have to reserve judgment because there is no right way to do it. You know what. I mean you you you constantly worried about like shit. Am i doing this right. Fuck i don't know i mean you concern yourself with that do you wonder if you're being a good parent or the right or doing it correctly or if there isn't even is a way to grow yes so to me. I would say june jinnai if you give us a task like get x. Done we will both get x. Done but the way that we got there is completely different and and we will both look at each other and go you. Did it wrong like you know on some level and so that ali is going back to. What i was saying was a big part of it going. Like you're going to be in charge of this and when you're in charge of that i'm wiping my hands. I'm gonna follow your lead. And then when i'm in charge something you wipe your hands and let me be in the lead and so what we try to do. Is it's co-parenting in the sense of all right you want me. Get him out of the house. I will get them out of the house by twelve o five. Just let me do it. My way and don't coach me and don't look over and wire isn't done. Why y isn't done. I will get it. Just no i will get. I have my own way of doing things. And that's and. I think we both have those alfa tendencies. So you're right. Like i i look to her and i wouldn't do it that way but now shaina mouth and i guess go with. She's charge but what about this. What about consistency. you know. i know when they're young. It doesn't really matter like my wife used to take when we went out with the infants when they were babies sh it took ten hours to get us out of the house diaper bags and this and in case there was a tornado. We had like a portable shelter. I mean it was crazy shit. And when i left the house i had a diaper in my back pocket. Maybe some amd maybe some. And and then i just bail right but when they get older and comes to sort of how you parent and you're getting to that age now where it six and four words you're like okay. Well how are we going to shape these kids. Yeah in a way that what about consistency when your wife has one way of doing it and you do well. I think that. I think that the overall like what we want them to do is the same right. So we're the the. The parenting is like the goal is the same way we get. There is different like she might have a different way to motivate them than i do but we are still like in so. I think that it's not about like it's not like oh on the one. Let's much tv and she's the one who was like you got to read. We both are going to have them read. But the way we're going to get them to read is going to be different so gotta a think like. I hope that that's what we're doing the right way but we are. We are on the same page about what we do and do not want them to do and that to me is the most important thing. 'cause it's sort of like we know we've agreed we're not doing that. We are doing this and there might be times where you know like the way. Can i have this ice cream sandwich. After desert in in jeans. I ask your father back. Yeah sure or in the we'll throw it back and forth but but for the major issues we know where we stand. And i'm sure it's going to get more challenging to But we are different people. Like we're gonna i can't expect you to parent like me. I can't expect her to like get out of the house the way i would. But you know once we're in the car. They got their backpacks. They got their books. They wearing shoes. And we're off. We're off to the races. Your kids know what your what you do. Yes but i don't know exactly how that translates like. I was on yoga. Gabby my youngest was like watching it. And like freak desert. Whoa and then it's sort of like. Oh you know this care like you know them. And i'm gay. I know them. So it's a but i don't know if like i i don't they're on camera all the fucking time now like these kids like with the face and the things that i think like seeing them on the phone or making videos of themselves and then seeing the tv. It's like well. This is the same as opposed to high. As opposed to how i grew up which go back to nineteen seventy one and m two and my dad's doing a sporting event on tv. I thought my dad was stuck inside the. Tv we're were. We're not in that regard and it's like why. Why is my dad stuck in that little window and now you're right. I mean my kids are older kids in now and younger kids. A two and a half year olds they're swiping on phones. I mean they get the whole idea. Oh yeah the whole direction is ten on tinder already. They're intended swipe right. Imagine you're like what are you dealing with on that level. I know you like the idea like people that they're dating how they're bringing the all wait. That might have two older girls. Two little boys and the two older girls are with two of the best human beings. Amazing if i hand picked a person for each one of them this is who would be. Oh that's great and that's it wasn't always that way i mean and that's how was that when it wasn't always that way. Oh my god but you can't get involved i mean. How many times was i would somebody that i wasn't good for me or or didn't bring out the best in me. My my favorite story. That i've ever heard about obama. It's so perfect. So obama is doing some sort of photo op and they bring in family. And it's a mom and dad the daughters and the daughters boyfriends. They all get their the take the picture and then obama says guys get out. The two boyfriends is like take another picture is just in case. And i love and i love that idea like it was great. It was such a great dad moment of knowing. You're gonna want this picture forever and these guys may not be there. So let's give it to give it to ops smart my god well my my youngest date say a kid who plays in the nhl. Who again. I love like a son. Yeah and i have a jersey of his that he sent me like as a thank you for something and like do i the minute i frame this and put this on the wall. It's overcast dot brick. I'm do down their relationship. Yeah if i go to the expense of like boxing this thing and putting it on the wall done so it just sitting there and if if they ever do end up getting i will have that framed if they are together but even then i mean you know it's hard it's hard and then but then the question is why not enjoy it now and that's kind of my issue too. It's like you know like not like this. Is the thing that we wrestle with at all times like. That was a beautiful thing that he did. He sent you that thing. You feel proud of them. You wanna have you wanna put it up. But you're right. But i don't because i don't want to jinx they don't and i believe me i'm in the same boat it's nuts. I can't think that way. I have nothing to do with anything. But it's the same reason. Like i would buy clothes or when i was a kid we would go buy clothes and it was ingrained in me. When we go to macy's we buy whatever sweater or shirt and only get home. My mom day. Now we're going to save this for a good occasion like just put it on. My wife is a person's like walking around the supermarket. And you're like. I want that bar start eating it. She'll pay for the bar. But yeah i bought this. I'm i'm i've tried on a shirt in wherever she's trying on a shirt and she'll walk out with it paid for the and i'm not that person mcnew no it's got to make sure it's the right time and the thing in the bub-bubba and it's like i look at my wife. That's the better way to live. Eat that when you eat the candy bar on it. Yeah shirt when you buy the shirt instead of having a pair of years in a closet quite knickers. I'm like well. I don't know when i can wear them. And anytime anytime and is that your mom influence on you for sure. Yeah i grew up that way whereas like yeah but used that reward for me. That's that reward thing that i'm always dealing with i. It's not it's not ready yet. It's not perfect. It's not the right time. It's not the thing like it's could be simple. I mean this is again going deeper into my like psyche. But it's like. I'll even do that with like a bottle of wine and there's a bottle of wine as i really want like i i. I'm excited to drink this. As my wife doesn't drink red as a guy will figure it out and then like a couple of times came over again. One winning red wine really trying to get rid of this. We get rid of but opening like no no no i was like and it sitting there and i'm like i just wanna i want to try. This thing won't open it for myself. Because i'm just going to have a glass and it's a waste but to what you said i'll like the fucking glass of wine because it might be dead tomorrow and was a great glass of wine enjoyed instead of waiting for this moment. That's never going to appear never win at the right moment. So invite joe and michelle buck over. We will doesn't stand a chance. I'll bring a replacement i ever find. I can never find people who drink red wine. I like everyone. I'm not a why don't like white wine. I'm a red wine that to in my white. Yeah my wife. Literally drinks align called butter. It is called. Butter butter sean. I did i know it are. We are full up on butter and but but no. Yeah but it's like. But i think i'm trying i'm trying to embrace it and i think to bring it all full circle. That's what i do with my kids. I don't hold back on my kids like when we are doing some that we're going to have fun we're gonna go for it and so all those instincts that i have are gone when i'm with my family and when i'm with my wife But really i'm getting better with my wife but with the kids unabashedly it is like now. This is the moment. Let's embrace it. Lets out on. Let's go do you worry though. That like your psycho your neurosis your insanity in the best and worst way is sort of you know seeping into your children. You know do you. Do you think about that at all. You know i. I guess i have made peace with the fact that i'm going to mess them up. I feel like that's more. Yeah dude. I say that all the time i say it all the time. I say it's not about if you fuck up your kids. It's just about to what degree i mean you are. The they're gonna rebel against you. You have i. I love my parents. But there's going to be issued i got. My mom always did. This wasn't a make or break thing. But it's like but you know but it's like there are going to be those things that you're just going to reject about the more they. Nick kroll has this joke where do in his last stand of special and rare made me laugh. He's like you know you could be in a moment where you know you you get a haircut and your mom's like oh nice haircut. What's he didn't like my hair before. Hand with your mom and is but you're only at your mom because the this other thing like i get ear to my mom and and everybody watching around. Why are we accused you like your haircut. No but she's always saying like your haircut like because they don't cut it enough. I don't whatever it is. I think it has anything to do with anything. But it's like you will always advocate that issue on some small and it could be. Obviously other people could very big but i. I'm just like i'm trying to give them. I'm just trying to be like i love you. I'm taking care of us. I'm not trying to shit but by the way you're gonna you're gonna get my shit. I love you and as long as you feel my love and you know that. I love you unconditionally. And that's it. You're gonna get my shit. I'm sorry i'm working on it. I will say that. I don't know about both of you but like i don't. My parents were not working on it right. Like i am working on and it's like so at least i've been at therapy for twenty years. I went to this place. Called the hoffman institute which was incredible by the way changed my life and i'm always working on it but i'm fascinated with it. I'm fascinated with the human condition. I i love that. We're all made up of the same shit but we're all so incredibly authentic and that we have the capacity to fix ourselves emotionally. And that's so interesting to me so i like it i dig it. You know absolutely all right. Are we ready to start here. We go yeah. You're to go here. We go yeah. We're going to start well before before before we go dude i just gotta say You are you are so fucking funny and you're one of my favorites and you're so nice and the league is just such an amazing lee. Funny sean i'm a fantasy football player but it is just on another level funny. It was a really really lucky to kinda hit that show in a moment where i mean you know where i feel like the. Nfl was in a weird spot. But now it'd be a little bit harder because they feel like there are some more things that are like ooh. How do we touch that arguably do that. You know and Yeah but the show was so great and to be kind of created by one of the guys who created curb and had that style of improv and really great and getting work with those people always so much fun. Incredible man incredible thanks. So here's the here's the takeaway. Yeah take the plastic off the couch. Exact couch where you're damned tennis shoes. Drink your damn red wine. I threw two dino bath bombs. I was only going to do one last night. It bad time blake was going batch crazy so it through another one in there. Now we're out of dino bath bombs but last night we had a night like no other and then we watch oliver stand in the background of the golden globes. That's right that's my big beautiful. It is. I think he just got to embrace your embrace these things and i think when you're around people who also have done it like i feel like that's the other thing too good to like look at like people who've done it that are not you that are older. And you look in your. Oh wow okay. They did a good. They pulled it off. Crib trip from the some people yes My final question. Joe wanna ask we ask everyone this all the if there's anything that you've taken From your dad you now have in your own dad. Dna good or bad that you find yourself doing that. You didn't think when you were younger guy you would carry forward and then and then but there's a flip side to that so it's like the good. What's that good thing that you've taken from your dad. That you rebelled. I said good or bat now. Don't needs to be both joe bad now. You said good or bad not bad you know say e need preposition of not or is it. Good or the good and bad or good and bad. So it's it's that one is that jeff look out stick to stick to football. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say this The the good thing that i've taken from my dad definitely is doing the trips and having the adventures and like i definitely when my dad was the person who we would like. We had some of the best experiences whether it's camping or going to walt disney world. All this stuff. So i really am aware of creating like fun family moments. I'm very like passionate about like those memories and sometimes shocked when they don't even remember the things that we've done and will get better But i but like we go back in the. I don't remember ever going there like last year. Like i brought by sons. Probably do like a clippers game. And he got to meet a couple of players Like an autograph alley. And i know he doesn't remember it but like we show them pictures of. Yeah yeah all right. So but i'm trying to create those those memories. And then i think i didn't even bring up the lakers clippers thing because i've been a laker all my gosh. Well you're la read on your that. You're a clippers fan. And my and kate and ryder and i'm like what the fuck man. Jesus klima i'm a new yorker. Who was a knicks fan. I moved out here to la and And the knicks have just besides the season have been Really just a disappointing team for so many years. You know what. I'm in la. Now i'm going to have kids eventually. And i want them to have a team that we can go to. And at that point i was very poor and the clippers are very cheap seats and blake griffin was playing and was fun shit and i was like. I am a clippers fan. I felt like i wasn't on the bandwagon. I know all my friends who are people are not as bandwagon fans like that's l. a. And that's on there. I just i got in. I like this underdog aspect of it. And now i'm in now mike Aggressively but the bad fine fine but yes i look and i have. No no disrespect for the lakers. I only don't like the lakers. When they play the clippers. That's about really the only time i get upset about but you can't disrespect their dynasty royalty. I just read Kobe's book and i just read three ring circus. Which is a great book. I had the craziest remind craziest dream. Kobe bryant last night. It was fucking weird. I visited me as of visitation dream by kobe. Bryant it was insane detailed hanging out and puerto wisdom on me dream. It was very. i'm reading mob mentality. i should be having those dreams. I should be going to bed with that. The bad thing that my dad has done. And this is something that i've really. I made fun of him for doing it. My whole life and now i have done it is become part of me which is miss remembering and mispronouncing names i m. I don't know what has become like it was some of the dead. It's not that person this person. And now i am that person where i will just able names and you know harvey danger. Whatever that show. I am that dead is that it's not bad. And so yes. So that is something. The the the primary the mania tation of my dad was never remembering of quite getting the names and now i do to make all amazing. That's great paul. Thank you for for coming on. Thank you for in and thank you for being so open about. Yeah it's helpful to all dads and i agree with you. You're working on it. I feel like the world or the countries turning out better dads now because at least we're aware of kind of as opposed to what came before not everyone but try. Yeah try then. If this is somebody's agreements it's good. I mean this is what i think is so great about your podcast. You can listen to get your four agreements. You get your love. Language is right here. You got you got you got. It's easier to is only an hour and you have to open a book and you don't have to spend all that money right but then look at the cover art of our podcast faces. I help from these three. Eighty the pleasure. Thanks paul listen to daddy issues on the iheartradio app on apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast daddy. Issues is a production of cavalry audio and iheart media produced by margaret carmichael executive produced by joe bach. Oliver hudson dana brunetti and keegan rosenberger with metro by t mobile. 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