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Jeffrey Toobin on Writing About Trump
"Jeffrey toobin joins us now from northern Connecticut. His latest book is called True Crimes and misdemeanors the investigation of Donald, trump, it's already a New York Times Bestseller Jeff Welcome back to the podcast. It is a pleasure to be here Michelle. Well, we are talking about probably an unpleasant topic you've been covering this regularly for the New, Yorker, talking about it on CNN, the investigations of Donald. Trump plural I think and the impeachment process at what point did you think to yourself? Okay. This should be a book as well. Right at the beginning you know I have a special interest in fun for independent investigations of the presidency. I was one of the prosecutors in the Iran Contra -CATION in the Lawrence Walsh Investigation wrote my first book opening arguments about that did a book about. The Starr investigation of Whitewater Lewinsky in the Clinton years and so I know that the behind the scenes, stories of these investigations are always interesting. But what was a nerve ing as I started in was that I didn't realize that Muller which completely shut down all access I had to trust that eventually, I would get access to the Muller Office, but it was incredibly unnerving journalists to. Spend almost two years working on his side of the investigation really from the outside even though you've written about impeachment, you've written books about investigations. This book feels different and I'm curious to hear your take on what makes this book in the process of writing the book different from those previous books. Trump makes it different? The president is such an enormous figure in American history, his complete disregard. For norms his constant lying his inability or unwillingness to play by rules that Democrats and Republicans have played for all of certainly my conscious life it makes everything about these last three and a half years just feel different from anything I'd ever covered in anything I've ever felt as a citizen we've had conservative presidents. We've had liberal presidents, but we've never had a president like trump and. Both he as a protagonist in my story and the people who gravitate to him just make it totally different. Okay. Here's one way in which it feels different to me and I'm curious to hear your take and it's about trump but it's also about the reception of trump among Americans or certain group of Americans and it's that every single time there are some kind of event trump takes. Some action that seems to be a game changer. There's this expectation or there has been the expectation. Okay. Well, now, this is the end of this changes things, and that goes back to his not filing his tax returns during the campaign, but then I think the next point was with access Hollywood tapes and it's been that way ever since where where something will happen and people will say. Well now, that's it. You know there's gotTa be a consequence and then there really isn't a consequence I. Think you're right in part I mean you know and and you can go through others whether it was praising the white supremacists in Charlottesville standing by Vladimir Putin, in Helsinki, and disparaging the American intelligence agencies firing James Comey which seemed like complete departures from how we expect presidents to behave. Another theme of my journalistic career has been the evolution of the Republican Party that if you go back to Richard Nixon the turning point in Watergate was when seven Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee voted in favor of impeachment and then ultimately Barry Goldwater Hugh Scott John Rhodes went to Nixon and say we can't support you anymore those three famous Republicans The Republican Party has turned into a trump call. And the ability of the president to do absolutely anything no matter how outrageous and retain the support of that forty percent of the country. Is. Something we've never seen before it's been building through the past couple of decades, but I think that's what accounts for the phenomenon you describe, which is no matter what he does the the political architecture of our time really never changes anymore because fifty five percent of the people are appalled forty forty percent of the people stick with trump and thus we have the election we have. So you're saying it's essentially the fact that he's not held. Accountable is a result of the fact that the party has sort of been entirely captured by trump. He has captive and very loyal audience among Americans, and then presumably the other arm of that is what's happened with the media and that certain is catering to and delivering that message. I. Can just add one thing. You know a lot of people like what trump is doing. It's not like this forty percent says, well, you know it's bad that he fires Komai. It's bad that he says, all these races. Thanks their gladis says racist things. I. Mean there are a lot of people in the country who have the same attitudes and I think that's what's chilling for people like me who was. I like to think is not a racist, but the way trump behaves in public it's a feature, not a bug people don't support him in spite of his excesses they support him because it's
Apple apologizes to WordPress
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"muller" Discussed on The Lead
"Surfer Thomas Miller has been at the heart of this buyer Munich team and really the heart of the club for more than a decade now I could you just describe what he's like as a person? ? Is Very funny or anything all I have time I have time and then me the road runner they have to by roadrunner cancer had the steal ball doesn't always come across in English, because , it's very difficult for humans to translate well but he is very funny in minutes I ever show with A. . TV team, , I say completed. . No Fun. . Is. Very . intelligent straightforward I think he has good sense of what it is. . That makes a team successful. . Thank you for the mets trophy. . But I think we have <hes>. . Maybe twelve or fifteen players. . That deserves the trophy as well. . We worked so hard. . We work with and I think on top of that. . He personifies what it means to be a bavarian. . You know buying is the German word for that area just very wealthy very beautiful. . It is the stereotypical. . Germany for most foreigners who we think of deer think of people lederhosen people sometimes look down on these guys lederhosen their beer as being slightly simpleton maybe a little bit argument and and Brash Ovens. . But for for Bavarians, , it is a sense of pride after the training session the stars took part in the traditional power Lana Lederhosen photo shoot. . And when you combine that with buying as a football institution who play on that heightened sense of Bavarian, , he think represents those contradictions but also the the bland and the combination of these things in a way that no other bind player does at the moment. . And in terms of soccer. . I have to say Thomas. . Miller is one of the strangest players I've ever seen. . Can you explain what makes him so unusual he is strange because he holds a really important position for one of the best teams in the world without being necessary obviously a gifted player. . Because of his spindly legs and this upright running frame and this, , he looks like a middle distance runner than a footballer I try not to be that muscular than my teammates because <hes>. . Less weight on my bones, , his less injury, , and that's my secret. . It just don't see the the beauty elegance to so even the power the most played at this level brain and there's always something ungainly love it awkward about the way he and controls the ball he likes to Shin The ball router. . Hindi cleanly speak about jumped all the time. . Is Elite. . I think once said that he's the best worst player in the world. . I once thought that you know he was playing with a white t-shirt underneath his shirt poking out as some kind of wife beater show underneath and maybe I was imagine it almost got the sense that he was doing it on purpose to just give the impression that this is just this random guys just walked onto the pitch and he can't possibly be any good and opponents look thinking. . Who is this guy and then twenty minutes later he's got two goals against them. . So I think he's perfected that sleight of hand and is quite happy that people still think he's somehow know a good player and I think it takes you quite a bit of time and and different viewpoint to understand what it is yet she brings to the team and I tried to explain that my my biggest quality is maybe. . The game without ball because in this time we had his game is all based on on movement on ideas on the interpretation of space as he wants himself, , put it. . So eloquently than my qualities to do to get in the right space to the right time. . Maybe. . Space Interpreter. . But what does is so incredibly effective it's much easier to understand why successive bind coaches have founded absolutely necessary to make him keep playing a key position and also why successive coaches who haven't been able to see the beauty of mirrors game. . F-. . Often found themselves fired will speaking of that last season under Niko Kovac Thomas Miller spent a lot of time on the bench way is that I think you could call it just didn't understand what was the devil was doing for. . Him <hes> Kovachev, , slightly more reactive systems more defensive system. . He often played with three midfielders and three attackers. . So middle often found themselves very far away from goal. . So you really losing the best attributes familiar plane in that position and eventually <unk> almost but I have of applies knows wide positions and if anything I will use them as a backup for the doc- through the middle is mistake was to say that to Miller you you're my backup option which didn't go down well. . And because the results were bad because you know unhappy million addressing is not not a good thing. . It all add it to the reasons he coach was eventually fired many. . He mishandled Muna mishandled the team N.. . Misunderstood I think the the real importance of murder which now has become apparent when small. .
"Radio Muller" Is The Key To Bayern Munich's Success
"Surfer Thomas Miller has been at the heart of this buyer Munich team and really the heart of the club for more than a decade now I could you just describe what he's like as a person? Is Very funny or anything all I have time I have time and then me the road runner they have to by roadrunner cancer had the steal ball doesn't always come across in English, because it's very difficult for humans to translate well but he is very funny in minutes I ever show with A. TV team, I say completed. No Fun. Is. Very intelligent straightforward I think he has good sense of what it is. That makes a team successful. Thank you for the mets trophy. But I think we have Maybe twelve or fifteen players. That deserves the trophy as well. We worked so hard. We work with and I think on top of that. He personifies what it means to be a bavarian. You know buying is the German word for that area just very wealthy very beautiful. It is the stereotypical. Germany for most foreigners who we think of deer think of people lederhosen people sometimes look down on these guys lederhosen their beer as being slightly simpleton maybe a little bit argument and and Brash Ovens. But for for Bavarians, it is a sense of pride after the training session the stars took part in the traditional power Lana Lederhosen photo shoot. And when you combine that with buying as a football institution who play on that heightened sense of Bavarian, he think represents those contradictions but also the the bland and the combination of these things in a way that no other bind player does at the moment. And in terms of soccer. I have to say Thomas. Miller is one of the strangest players I've ever seen. Can you explain what makes him so unusual he is strange because he holds a really important position for one of the best teams in the world without being necessary obviously a gifted player. Because of his spindly legs and this upright running frame and this, he looks like a middle distance runner than a footballer I try not to be that muscular than my teammates because Less weight on my bones, his less injury, and that's my secret. It just don't see the the beauty elegance to so even the power the most played at this level brain and there's always something ungainly love it awkward about the way he and controls the ball he likes to Shin The ball router. Hindi cleanly speak about jumped all the time. Is Elite. I think once said that he's the best worst player in the world. I once thought that you know he was playing with a white t-shirt underneath his shirt poking out as some kind of wife beater show underneath and maybe I was imagine it almost got the sense that he was doing it on purpose to just give the impression that this is just this random guys just walked onto the pitch and he can't possibly be any good and opponents look thinking. Who is this guy and then twenty minutes later he's got two goals against them. So I think he's perfected that sleight of hand and is quite happy that people still think he's somehow know a good player and I think it takes you quite a bit of time and and different viewpoint to understand what it is yet she brings to the team and I tried to explain that my my biggest quality is maybe. The game without ball because in this time we had his game is all based on on movement on ideas on the interpretation of space as he wants himself, put it. So eloquently than my qualities to do to get in the right space to the right time. Maybe. Space Interpreter. But what does is so incredibly effective it's much easier to understand why successive bind coaches have founded absolutely necessary to make him keep playing a key position and also why successive coaches who haven't been able to see the beauty of mirrors game. F-. Often found themselves fired will speaking of that last season under Niko Kovac Thomas Miller spent a lot of time on the bench way is that I think you could call it just didn't understand what was the devil was doing for. Him Kovachev, slightly more reactive systems more defensive system. He often played with three midfielders and three attackers. So middle often found themselves very far away from goal. So you really losing the best attributes familiar plane in that position and eventually almost but I have of applies knows wide positions and if anything I will use them as a backup for the doc- through the middle is mistake was to say that to Miller you you're my backup option which didn't go down well. And because the results were bad because you know unhappy million addressing is not not a good thing. It all add it to the reasons he coach was eventually fired many. He mishandled Muna mishandled the team N.. Misunderstood I think the the real importance of murder which now has become apparent when small.
Bipartisan Senate Report Shows 2016 Trump, Russia Collusion
"The news Do. You guys remember when the big question on everyone's mind was did donald trump colluded with Russia during the two thousand sixteen campaign remember it was all anyone talked about and then trump lead one, hundred and seventy thousand Americans die on his watch and we moved onto that. Well, it turns out the US. Senate had not completely forgotten about it and yesterday they dropped a bombshell report. A New Senate report says members of the 2016 trump campaign were eager. To accept help from Russia some of a directed personally by Vladimir Putin the Republican led Senate Intelligence Committee releasing its final report declaring two thousand sixteen trump campaign had repeated contacts with Russian operatives, Paul Manafort? The former trump campaign co-chairman. It goes further than the Muller reports saying he was in close touch with a Russian intelligence officer who became a business partner. It says manafort posed a grave counter intelligence threat. The report says he may even have been connected. To Russia's hacking and leaking Hillary Clinton campaign emails, an operation it says was actually directed by Russian. President. Putin. The three year investigation also found that president trump may have misled special counsel Robert Muller One of the other headlines is that this committee actually made criminal referrals in June of last year in two thousand, nineteen to federal prosecutors on the list of referrals, Steve Bannon Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Junior. That's right. The Republican led Republican led Senate committee. Referred Steve, Bannon, Jared Kushner, and Don Jr. for criminal charges for lying under oath, and this is good news for Eric. When you the least favorite child, you get left out of all the family traditions, even the criminal ones basically, this Senate investigation found that the trump campaign's contacts, with Russia, during the two thousand, sixteen election posed a threat to national security, and the interesting thing about this report is that it's bipartisan with policies agree on the facts but. Each party came to a different conclusion about whether the facts meant that there was no collusion. And I will say it's always weird to see the same set of facts that are interpreted that differently it kind of reminds me of how two different guys will have different stories about how they fight went down you'll. That guy in the face and he was down on the ground lights out man. So Dude, I told that guy get on my face and then I took a nap on the
Prosecutor seeking Trump's taxes cites probe of his business
"President trump says efforts to get his tax returns released to a federal court in New York are part of the witch hunt against him Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance junior has been seeking eight years of president trump's personal and corporate tax records in connection with alleged hush money payments and what was termed a complex financial investigation this week he told the judge his justification was public allegations of possible criminal activity at the president's trump organization president trump was asked about the court filing said what's this all about I know nothing about it but it's just a continuation of the which I did work out FOR Congress didn't work out for Muller didn't work out for anybody last month the Supreme Court rejected claims by trump's lawyers the president could not be criminally investigated while in office Jackie Quinn Washington
Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.
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"And you have Schumer Pelosi. In Biden one hundred twenty five years, Charlie Kirk of failure, unmitigated failure, swap failure and I. Think of my kids. You met my son. He's twenty one years old. My daughter's eighteen and I would think about your America their America and when I say you know, live free or die, American, the world on the brink I'm not joking. And very specifically will be probably the biggest choice election by far in my lifetime, and maybe since eighteen sixty, and there's a lot at stake We can go through the issues if you want, but it's. It's there's there's not one issue we agree on that. I can think of for the most part yet, and you wrote this, and it just really sent chills down my spine. You wrote this book to sound an alarm as a warning. Warning to my fellow patriots about the left's undying commitment turn America into a land, our parents, founders and framers wouldn't recognize it. It's perfectly put, and that's the direction that they're headed on page twenty seven. You have a great part about how Ben Franklin says we ever republic. If you can keep it, can you talk more about how this truly is? A referendum election in some sense and the left is trying to do to our country. Well the the story about Franklin's interesting, because it's, it's the constitutional convention and somebody says he comes out one days, says, is it a monarchy republic republic? If you can keep it Reagan, I quote him off. When I give speeches, said Freedom Charlie and you know this is but one generation away from extinction. And you know when if you want understand if socialism is adopted if their stated goal is adopted America as we know, it then becomes unrecognizable look, I can understand psychologically. There's a component of maybe people that that have been indoctrinated in schools, and you're great at this because you're going in to hostile environments every day, and you're saying you know what there's another way of thinking here, so maybe the idea that people think Charlie that some things are oh, everything's going to be free and they're gonNA forgive my loans at I'll have a guaranteed government job guaranteed government food. How did obamacare workout now? We're GONNA have Medicare for all or or double down on the stupidity of Obamacare and guaranteed retirement. Guaranteed vacation sounds great. But simple math shows you that you'll never get there. And that's why in the Fourth Chapter of the book did this whole history of socialism which is a history of failure? The point is look at the issues. If if we're talking about law and order. They've cited in Portland in Seattle and new. York and Chicago with the radicals. Joe Biden his yet that I know of said one good thing about the ninety nine percent of cops protect and serve and put their lives on the line for us every day. You're right. Okay, so law and order taxes. He's pledging to raise your taxes through the roof. That will destroy the economy Then they're gonNA just add all the bureaucracy. The Donald Trump spent almost four years. Eliminating that'll be gone. That means nobody's GONNA WANNA DO Business. That's why the Biden Obama economy was so bad. Then you look at where now energy independent for the first time in seventy five years with a number, one producer of energy in the world will lose that for sure We'll shut down coal fracking. Oil Gas exploration production those tens of millions of jobs high paying jobs career jobs for people. Then it's about amnesty. Or the United Sanctuary states of America versus Border Security and law and order of never mind foreign policy. We haven't even touched that part yet, so. There's a lot at stake. If those plans stated plans are implemented. America will go down the past you know. The Trash bin of history as Reagan, said Freedom One generation away from extinction we will. It I shudder to think what will happen the three you and your children by kids, and and maybe one day grandkids. ARE READY FOR THAT And I love the framing, because as the founder said either we're GonNa live free and defendant right now, or we're gonNA. Have a country that you know. We don't WanNa live it, and that's really the framing. That is so important right now, and you talk about and I'm really pleased about this. Shawn because I think we have forgotten about the Russia hoax too quickly in. In the conservative movement, you have been the leader on this every night. You were covering it. You didn't let us forget you help. Muller Accountable, you had investigative journalism and it just seemed that an Oxana names, but other conservatives just kind of drifted away from like Oh. That's what happened happened. You have two chapters on this in the book. Can you talk about that? Yeah I mean I call it Charlie, the the biggest corruption abuse of power scandal in history and the Ukraine was oh. Okay, we failed with Muller after three years. We won't. We won't even bother with a special prosecutor not to I'm going backwards here but to get to Ukraine. You? Know they're talking about quid pro quos, but you have to ignore their presidential candidate on video saying you're not getting a billion US tax payer dollars unless you're fire. That prosecutor is named Shokhin. WHO's investigating my son Hunter who went on a and said? Do you have any experience in oil? No Gas, no energy, nope, any experience in Ukraine. Nope, why are you being paid millions? No, because you dad, so there was a quid pro quo and millions of dollars for the Biden I call crime family. That's exactly right, so. Listen and China's even worse. You get to this whole thing what we now know and I believe what's coming. It's like, and this is where the media's corrupt because. They're just the propaganda wing of all things democratic. Socialist. We now know and have all the evidence that we'd ever need is that they protected their favorite candidate. Hillary Clinton. For things you and I and everybody you know that follows you and you have a massive audience would. Literally never get away with. If you had subpoenaed emails Charlie Kirk and you decided to delete them, and you decided to acid. Wash your hard drive with something. I had never heard about bleeped bleach bit and bust up your devices with hammers. You'd go to jail. If you violated the espionage act, you'd go to jail. They protected her. Then the narrative began we now know began in August. We know crossfire hurricane representatives actually went to brief. President Trump General Flynn. Flynn on national security, but they were there to try and get information on trump and Russia, the most amazing part of this, because the Democrats and the media live for all these years is that they knew and they said and they wrote, and they even testified. There was never any evidence, but there was a dirty Russian dossier. And now we know even the New York Times acknowledged full full of Russian disinformation and that was used. And they were warned not to use it, but high ranking people abusing their power, wanting to take out candidate, trump, transition, team, trump, and then deep into the Presidency Donald Trump. They use the dirty Russian misinformation dossier to ruin Carter pages life and roomed his civil liberties and constitutional rights, but more importantly to spy on candidate trump, and then they had their insurance policy. The fact that the mob in the media ignores it is beyond comprehension. I have so I have two chapters. One is on the Russia hoax, and the other is on this whole impeachment witch hunt. And I want everybody in your audience to understand one thing here if I can get one point across. Yeah, they hate Donald Trump, but they hate us more. They think we are as Peter. Struck, said the smell by the way I probably shop at Walmart say money. Why not you have a woman I love Walmart I love COSCO's. I Love I love it all. And I've shopped there my whole life I mean people always stopped me when I'm in a grocery? So, what are you doing here? Shopping? Wa I like to eat a cracks me up. So but think about that. smelly Walmart Shoppers while irredeemable deplorables, wow! Bitter Americans as Obama said that WANNA cling to their God. I'm guilty their Second Amendment Rights Guilty Bibles and religion I'm guilty of that, too. But. It's contempt for your audience. It's contemporary my audience. It's because they knew better. And they will ling. This was an attempted coup. Now do I think there's going to be arrests and prosecutions I? Do spend much slower than any of us would have liked, but the evidence is overwhelming. It's incontrovertible sad actually that this could happen. That was going to be my follow up. Question Sean because when I travel and we get thousands of e mails a on this topic. When are people going to go to jail? And can you give me insight on this? Can you give us any clues any crumbs that we're starting to see from Durham? It's I call them. It's funny. You say crumbs because call them the the Attorney General Bar breadcrumbs. It's like Hansel and Gretel. Remember. We're we're trying to follow and see the trail exactly yeah. He did say that the president was spied on. It did happen illegally. The. Think about this. If you go before Judge Judy I wouldn't WANNA lot because Judge Judy I. I've met her once she'll eviscerate. You I watched her show. You. Don't go before a court. The information that you have not verified. It actually said at the top of a FISO Warren Charlie. It says verified. Okay. We now know the dossier was unverifiable. The sub source we now know, said this this bar talk. We were making this up. This was never meant for anything and again Hillary paid for it funneled money separate issue. And so, what is going to happen I don't have a crystal ball but I. do know all of the facts that are in the public. Are Enough to indict many of the names that your audience is most familiar with. I would argue. Komi McCabe struck page. I'd like to know a clapper. Brennan's role in all of this ends up being and and others. The more fascinating deep question is. Will they get to that January fifth twenty seventeen meeting inside the Oval Office? This is when member Biden said George Stephanopoulos Oh I. Don't know. Anything about this, you know this whole impeachment Russia thing. He was the one same. Bring up the Logan Act fifteen days later Susan Rice in that meeting did the Cya memo the day that Donald Trump was inaugurated. Obama in that meeting shot Sally Age by saying a He. He knew everything about the Kislyak Michael Flynn call. If we look. To sum it up. I think we're GONNA get there because the evidence. Is that overwhelming? If we don't. I fear for the country? Because of you. GonNa Raid Manafort's home predawn raid and you're going to raid Roger Stone's home. For lying to Congress by the all many of the names I mentioned were referred for the same crime and you're gonNA. Pull it twenty nine guys in tactical gear, frogmen and tip off CNN cameras and. Have a biased jury for person. We won't have equal justice and equal application of our laws, and worse than that Charlie is. We lose our constitution. Yes, all our laws are are predicated on next great document and some `perfect, but it creates the path to perfection at a more perfect union so. Long answers. I'M GONNA talk. Show I love it. No, this is what our audience needs to hear, and and thank you for that and look I I completely agree because if we do not have people and I, say this as carefully as I can in handcuffs for what they did Donald Trump then I I will lose faith in the American justice system I. Don't want that and I don't want revenge I don't retribution I want people to be held accountable and I would want the same if someone did this to Barack Obama because it should never happen to a leader ever. Yes. and. They've gone after every single trump friend confidant, and yet if you oppose Donald Trump you get different treatment, talk a lot about the constitution in your book and the founding of our country, Sean going to be honest, I've been very let down by some of these supreme. Court decisions lately Can you comment on that and the importance to get more people like Kavanagh? Who's actually ruled brilliantly? Unlike John Roberts. I! I'm a little. I don't know what's happening. Roberts I have my theory I guess I have my sources people that. have their own ideas based on some knowledge? For whatever reason and I think this goes back to the obamacare decision. He has allowed. How the court appears to influence his decision making. I also sense with no evidence whatsoever. You're not a big fan of president trump, but that should not come into his thinking. Now. If getting rid of bureaucracy and lowering taxes and energy, independence, and securing our borders, and law and order are all part of this election. Let me tell you another big part of it. And it's you know we're taping this ninety. Whatever days away from the Election Day, I what about and we got asked. What about the Supreme Court? Yes, I go through a whole list I. Forget what paid maybe sixty seven I forget. A. In the book. Of. All the things Democrats would do if they're getting power one, is they? WanNa, stack the courts. Get rid of the Electoral College. And I. What, they're saying they. WanNa do is scary. They used to hide it Charlie. When I every single Liberal Democrat running for office, they would run to the left in the primary. They race back to the center, but you knew they wanted the left. There now openly embracing the most radical elements in the country and you know. Unfortunately we're watching it all. Play out nightly on TV and and that sad what I see happening when I think we have to remind a trump supporters that these are not trump appointed justices, a gorsuch I think ruled incorrectly on one ruling. That's it besides that gorsuch and cavenaugh have been tremendous and terrific verses Roberts. I just think we have to give the audience a sense. Sense of continued conviction that the trump appointed justices will continue to rule correctly and Clarence. Thomas and you know the the Thomas Family. They get no credit at all. I mean what he has done. And can you comment on that? 'cause I, E, you've actually been you open my eyes to that like eight years ago and I never learned about Clarence Thomas as a high schooler until you I mentioned it just as a quick aside on his incredible career. I like to do on TV and antidote on radio, too. Sometimes I call it the Hannity history, lesson 'cause I lived through all of this. I know this is going to see. You're not even thirty three, but my radio journey started in nineteen eighty-seven crazy right. Now on my twenty fifth year of Fox, I didn't think I last two. So I feel very blessed. As a side note if you haven't read my grandfather's son. Which is about Clarence Thomas is life. It's amazing. But. You know it's interesting because him and Scalia. To my opinion, my to most favorite justices in my lifetime. Scalia this incredible wit and genius and understanding and. They got a little acerbic side to when when he was questioning Clarence Thomas always set by quietly. What they called a high tech lynching at the time, the more modern. Let it. You gotTA. Remember Yeah. And you know. It was then Senator Ted Kennedy you know Robert Bork's America the borking of America. That was Clarence Thomas. Now we see it more recently cavenaugh. It exposes. The, who is Joe Biden? Who is his team? Because Clarence Thomas and Justice Scalia or the people we need on that court. We call them constitutionalists or originalists, the original intent, not people that would sight foreign law as liberal justices have done or not people that feel that they can rule by judicial Fiat and dictate or legislate from the bench. Democrats always wanted the court to do that which they could never. Do legislatively or win at the ballot box and that's why they want. We call them. Activists Justices Clarence Thomas. has shown a fidelity to the Constitution at the Antony Scalia. That is beyond enviable And the differences styles always interesting, too because Justice Thomas will always be quiet. That's very few questions. Anthony Scalia was in there in a wrestling with people. I don't know about John Roberts. I can't get into it, but I do believe the next president United States is a very good chance. You have a lot of older justices may want to retire. And I think that the next this election in just three short months. That's on the ballot and that's that's generational now. And Sean I think we have to pressure the Biden campaign to do what trump did and release a list of justices I mean president trump was so transparent and Joe Biden hasn't done it yet. Intentionally, of course, because he'll probably put repeated to lieber something on the United States Supreme Court I mean as horrifying as that might be so in two two quick closing question Sean and thank you for being so generous with your time anchorage, everyone you know. Know go by live, free or die. the first is this. Can you just talk about? We are heading into the election. A lot of trump supporters. They're failed. They're falling victim. They suppression pulse I wish that wasn't the case, but it seems like the memory of two thousand sixteen as faded where people forget. We were down by double digits. Can you just give a little vote of confidence to some of our listeners out there? That think we're just losing. I WANNA. Give the vote of confidence, but I want people to feel this way. I want people to think I'll use a football analogy that our mutual friend Linda that you know. Who's your biggest fan? My radio producer? He's amazing. Amazing, but she doesn't even know how many points you get a touchdown, so I'm giving these football analogies. I, want this election. I want people to feel the way I feel which is. We're on our own twenty. Two minutes to go. We have no time outs We're down by six. We got a cross. The plane marched down the field, cross the plane and hit the extra point to win. So if people feel a sense of genuine urgency and worry and concern, I'm cool with that because fear often as a great motivator, not irrational field fear, but if people do not vote, you will get the government that they're telling you. They're going to give you believe. That that is their agenda. To be a Republican and win. You GotTa always use this analogy got to run the table I gotTA. Get Florida Georgia North Carolina can't win without Ohio. No Republican's ever become president without it right? You got hold Iowa then you got pick off Pennsylvania Wisconsin hopefully Michigan maybe MINNEA- Minnesota will be play. Maybe the city of Arizona will be in play. By Joe Biden reference for those of you. That didn't get. We got a hold Arizona Gopher Nevada New Mexico. New Hampshire and Maine's second congressional district. If every single mom, this is a battle cry. You started out this interview with this. I wrote this book not because I like writing books. My last book I donated every Penny I made to charity I don't care. It's not that. This is a tipping point. Charlie this is I, don't. See if these policies are implemented how America recovers. Irreparable harm the to the rule of law to our courts to our economy, they want to wipe out the lifeblood of of the world's economy. This this promise of socialism and I go into such detail about how it's always failed. Here's a quick socialism of example. Member obamacare. Keep your doctor keep your plan. Save on average twenty five hundred dollars a year per family right? Okay. Millions lost their doctors. Millions lost their plans. We're all paying about two hundred percent more and add to that. Forty percent of Americans almost forty percent have only one obamacare Biden Carriage James Choice now. How did they do with that promise? Medicare is going broke. How did they do it? That promised social security. Charlie hate the break this here. He paying into it. You probably won't get it I. Barely Skate through, and they might give me ten cents until they means tested and then take it back, How does it? How did Liberal government work in New York City with all the anarchy cutting a billion dollars, so please? How's IT WORKING IN CHICAGO? All. These liberal cities have where the violence we've been talking about takes place. They all have one thing in common. They've been run by Liberal Democrats for decades right. Most of these states have been run into the ground by Liberal Democrats for decades. If you WANNA know what America will look like if Biden Bolshevik Bernie. Pelosi Schumer and Bozo. That team gets place look at new. York state and city look at Chicago the City Illinois. The State Look at California. Look at Oregon. Look at Portland, the city. Look at Seattle. Look at the state of Washington. Yes. And I. Love this country too much. You know it's an all hands on deck moment and Every everyone of you've got this connection with younger people in this country. You have this incredible. A credible platform you built, and it's become powerful and meaningful and transformative to the country, and you're going out there, and you're fighting on these college campuses and you. You know it's not easy to be in the middle of a I call it a shift. Show all the time, but let's well put, but you do it. And it's freedom works. Every time you give up freedom for security, you lose your freedom because the security that they're offering. These promises that can never ever be fulfilled. In America. The land. I'll close with this unless you want to go further I can keep going the. Barry Farber who was a mentor of mine. Just recently passed away like ninety ninety one. And he always said there's never been a country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power and abused at less than the United States well I add. A country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power abused at less, but used it to advanced human condition. The reason America is great and exceptional. If I can say that today, it's not perfect, but it's great. An exceptional is because of its people, and because of the fundamentals of liberty and freedom. So that? Natural rights versus government or rights, natural rights come from God doubt by our Creator. Life Liberty pursuit of happiness while you can't pursue happiness these days in Chicago New York Moreland Seattle. So there's a lot on the line. I love your audience. I'm so thankful for all you're doing, and you've got a great team that you building review and you're out there fighting the fight and I just urge you guys. Just fight like your country depends on it. Because America's, we know it. It's all hanging in the balance. Yet was Sean. You've been so generous the last quick thing I defend the president all the time personally as a person. Can you comment on that because I've had the opportunity to meet him? not as much as you obviously and get to know him, but a lot of people here misrepresentations in lies about who he is as a human being. Let's close on this note. Can you just mention one or two things that that people can take away from that? You know first of all. It's interesting. Nobody seems to understand Donald trump yet. They don't want to understand. I mean Donald Trump. The Dog Bites the beasts, things you feeling sad or get cancer. You Complain Trump. I mean that's how saying the leftist. But here's a guy that is so unique he this guy is like a soon nami force of energy like I've never met my life. The most distinct and unique quality he's had is as president. You mentioned the Supreme Court. He put those people that he said he put. He cut the bureaucracy as he said he'd caught, and he cut the taxes as he said he'd cut. He did the North Dakota. A keystone pipelines Anwar Likey said he would. He's building the wall or almost four hundred miles. A wall by the by election will be over four hundred miles. He found a way it was. It was an uphill climb He said he wanted to pull us out of foreign conflicts, but not back away from evil defeated. The Caliphate took out. Baghdadi and Associates took out Sola Mani took out the Al. Qaeda leader in Yemen. So? What makes him special and unique in terms of presidency is that he is who you see is who you get. The guy that's fights on twitter is the guy that's fighting for a better trade. Deal the guy that fights. Against Liberal Democrats and the media mob is the same guy is fighting to keep his promises that to me makes him the most unique transformative political figure in our lifetime. And Right now. The. We tip the scales. You have a choice. It's never been a bigger choice. He will keep his promises. Coronas been a little bit of a curve ball to the world, but even that ten days after the first case, the only guy that I know of thought about a travel ban will be donald trump. They were teaching at the time and Joe Binder Biden was call them Sinophobic, so he's a man of his word. He's a man that will fight to his last dying breath for this country and the promises he made, and that makes them in my view very transformative. Men will. The book is live for Your Die God bless you, Sean, thank you for that. You do and we really appreciate. It helps you soon. Thanks bye. What a great conversation that was! Please email me or questions freedom. Charlie Kirk Dot Com freedom at Charlie. KIRK DOT COM please type in trolley. Kirk, show your podcast provider. Hit subscribe, give us a five star reviews screen shot at an email us. If you want to win a signed copy of the Maga- doctrine, please get involved with turning-point USA at Teepee USA dot com that is Teepee USA DOT com. 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Mueller defends Russia probe, says Stone remains a felon
"President trump's decision to commute the sentence of political confidante Roger stone is drawing sharp criticism from Democrats and pointed comments from the special counsel who oversaw his prosecution Roger stone was treated horribly Roger stone recruited very unfairly that's president trump speaking to reporters at the White House Saturday but in an op ed in The Washington Post former special counsel Robert Muller recounted how during the twenty sixteen campaign stone communicated with people known to be Russian intelligence officers who had stolen democratic emails house intelligence committee chairman Adam Schiff tells ABC's this week this effort to get and use foreign assistance is what Roger stone had information on and he lied to cover up to protect the president Muller says stone committed federal crimes and rightly remains a convicted felon Ben Thomas Washington
Mueller defends Russia probe, says Stone remains a felon
"Former special counsel Robert Muller is sharply defending his investigation into ties between Russia and Donald trump's two thousand sixteen presidential campaign Roger stone was brought into this switch judge this all political which shut down the mall or Tampa speaking to reporters Saturday president trump said he had done the right thing by committing Roger stone sentence because stone and others who have been prosecuted including former national security adviser Michael Flynn had been treated unfairly but in an opinion piece in The Washington Post the former special counsel asserts stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes Muller enumerates stones repeated lies to Congress including about his communications with people known to the F. B. I. to be Russian intelligence officers and says stone remains a convicted felon and rightly so Ben Thomas Washington
Capitol Hill split on Trump's decision to commute Roger Stone's sentence
"Trump has commuted the sentence of his longtime friend, and in former political adviser Roger Stone, who was convicted for lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering in the investigation into Russian interference in the twenty sixteen presidential election NPR's Ryan, Lucas reports reaction on Capitol Hill Seems Split Along Party. Lines Republicans like Congressman Jim Jordan. He's a key. Trump ally on the hill came out in support of this move to. To grant a commutation to stone, but for Democrats in the president's critics, they have condemned trump's decision to commute stone sentence, and they call it an attack on the rule of law. They also say that it's part of a pattern. They point to the administration's decision earlier this year to drop charges against the president's former National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn, and now this decision to commute stone sense they say is evidence of politics infecting the judicial system. The White House says stone was charged by over zealous prosecutors on special. Counsel Robert Muller's team that was pursuing a baseless investigation which led to trump's impeachment.
Supreme Court to decide if Congress can get secret Russia grand jury materials
"The Supreme Court today announced it will hear the Muller Grand Jury Materials Case on the merits next term, which is going to push. Back its potential release. Should win on the merits to after the election, so don't imagine now first of all. These are the molar grand jury materials under rule sixty. We weren't going to get to see these anyway. It was just GonNa go to
Will My Supply Chain Survive COVID-19?
"The commercial aerospace supply chain is writing. The sudden collapse, the spring passenger air travel after the outbreak of the latest novel Corona Virus and it's cove in Nineteen, disease has upended fortunes in the airliner manufacturing industry. That matters because commercial aerospace is responsible for about three quarters of the whole aerospace and defense sectors business activity. Cash is king right now throughout the supply chain and companies are struggling to have enough liquidity, according to what several advisors and analysts tell aviation week. while. Liquidity is more of a function of the wider economic downturn inside aerospace. There are even bigger challenges. Where production rates were once being pushed higher now a Williams are slashing them cascading pressure down the supply chain. At the L. A. M. in the top tier level. It has probably never been more important to have insight into your supply chain. Joining me to talk about that need, and what to do about it are John Schmidt? The Global Andy Lead at Accenture and Joyce Klein. Accenture leader in applied intelligence in the North American amd practice John Joyce. Welcome back. Thanks might go good to be back so John let me start with you. It seems obvious that OEM's and tier ones want insight into their suppliers. But while that was always true, I used to be about making sure that there were no bottlenecks that slowed or stop record high production now things chain what of new conditions that demand and customers pay better attention to their supply chain. Might go and in many ways the aerospace industry you know has a clear split between the companies that are working in the Corso world, and does indefens- you in the commercial. As you say, you know the concern used to be, we have a supply constrained world with very predictable demand, right always pushing for more trying take need those increased rates pushed by Boeing and. and Airbus and in the current world that's changed dramatically to being more of a supply volatile with unpredictable demand in the defense and space side of things you know things have largely remained in a predictable demand with an increased supply chain volatility, so by just keep looking at those things, predictability and the the constraint or volatility the spy chain. That's where the primary differences. And Commercial. We know that demand is going to be directly related to the bounce back of commercial air travel and the relative rates airlines choose to bring back stored aircraft versus take more efficient models on order from the OEM's causing more volatility in and demand, variability and defense. It's a bit different again. Demand Israel remained and the supply chains been impacted by Kobe in some cases they're tier one two or three companies, who source both commercial and defense or trying to generate cash to cover expenses and other cases, local Cobra outbreaks, and our common actions are impacting the spires ability to deliver on schedule, known both cases, aerospace and defense companies need. To deal with all totally like never before whether commercial or defense. So Joyce. Last time John and I talked here on Chuck six with. He kind of gave me the peak and do some new technology you all were working on. It's a new capability to peer into the supply chain including using an algorithm approach that allows more predictive insight, potentially even the ability to hotspot. What factories might be in trouble in the future? Can you tell us a little bit about what accenture is working on? And how does this work? Yes, absolutely Michael Accenture? We've been working with our clients in the supply chain area for many years using analytics and machine learning. In fact, if you go back to last year's pariser show in our accenture shall a. we had a digital showcase. Demo that focused on intelligence supply chain, and what this demo is a together machine, learning and artificial intelligence, and we used I at supply chain Europe e data to really understand delivery delays identify missing parts. We also looked at the opportunity for Automation Muller. Doing now is we're bringing together? All Lot of data sets and we're using artificial intelligence to help companies deal with the increase in volatility manage. Manage uncertainty and really get at supplier resiliency. That's really the core of what our solution is all about now so for North, America a and D client what we've done is we've taken and artificial intelligence engine that uses the supplier Jadot and what we're trying to do. We're actually working to predict the number of days late or a particular part, and we're doing that by bringing together a supplier. Number roaches order number eleven worry day in quantity, combination you all that information, Heather actually identify the number of as laid the opulent part is going to be and so by knowing the number of days way them. What were able to do is fight and determine. Do I have enough inventory? As coverage or that? Particular part is ultimately if I Joan I need to make additional decisions around production, and so what? We've been able to do with our solution. Experience up to ten percent improvement apart availability production. And we're also able to change the role of the delivery service analyst. Previous lanes individuals really operating. All here. Allergy by getting parts then wall really. Burning that role inches, someone that now uses ena an ai a better and improve sagem around artists that are going to chase I which parts are actually GonNa come in on Hind. So is a big ship in
Prosecutor: Trump ally Roger Stone was 'treated differently'
"A federal prosecutor is said to tell Congress that the justice department gave special treatment to one of president trump's close allies before sentencing in prepared testimony Aaron Zelinsky will tell the house Judiciary Committee he heard repeatedly that Roger stone was being treated differently from other defendants because of his relationship to the president so let's keep this part of special counsel Robert Muller scheme and was one of four lawyers who quit the stone case after the justice department over toward their sentencing recommendation and instead proposed a lighter sentence he'll testify today as part of the Democrat led panel's probe into justice department politicization under Attorney General William Barr an extraordinary case of a current prosecutor criticizing department leadership Sager made Donnie Washington
Senate committee approves over 50 subpoenas for investigation of Mueller probe
"Stories the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman could start issuing subpoenas to pursue its investigation into how the Russia probe against committee voting on party lines to authorize giving chairman Lindsey Graham full authority to issue subpoenas for up to fifty three individuals I think we need to look long and hard how the Muller investigation got off the rails Graham says he wants to get to the bottom of how the FBI began looking into ties between Russia and the trump campaign he pointed to an inspector general's report that found numerous abuses of the FISA courts in the early stages of the
Fired U.S. State Department watchdog tells lawmakers he was impartial
"A former top justice department official defending the Russia investigation during a hearing before lawmakers Senate Republicans begin their investigation into the F. B. I. twenty sixteen Russia probe and the surveillance of a trump campaign aide with the former deputy Attorney General rod Rosenstein with newly declassified records and a watchdog report that found widespread errors in the surveillance warrants Rosenstein said he would not have signed the paperwork if you had known then what he knows today Rosenstein who also appointed special counsel Robert Muller testified the two year probe was not a hoax committee Democrats said the hearing should have focused on policing issues and Kobe
Rosenstein to testify as part of Graham's Russia investigation probe
"Former deputy Attorney General rod Rosenstein of Maryland will testify next week at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the justice department's Russia investigation that come from South Carolina Republican senator Lindsey Graham who chairs the committee Rosenstein's appearance in a week will come at the first federal oversight hearing of the committee's new investigation Rosenstein is a pivotal figure in the Russia probe because he's the one who appointed Robert Muller's special counsel the committee hearings are part of a broader effort by allies of president trump to call into question decisions and actions made during the Russia
Graham calls Rosenstein as first witness in Russia inquiry
"Hi Mike Rossi a reporting the Senate Judiciary Committee lines up its first witness as it looks into the Russia probe Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Lindsey Graham says former deputy Attorney General rod Rosenstein will testify on Wednesday as the committee opens an investigation of the FBI's Russia probe Rosenstein is a key figure in may twenty sixteen he appointed Robert Muller's special counsel to investigate potential ties between the trump campaign and Russia Rosenstein also authorized reviewing FBI applications to monitor a former trump campaign adviser Carter page last December the justice department inspector general concluded there were serious mistakes and omissions in F. B. I. applications to monitor page Mike Rossio Washington
Trump blasts Sessions on Twitter
"President trump in a series of tweets Friday endorsed a series of Republican candidates but his former Attorney General not only did not drawn endorsement he was disparaged presidents typically avoid attacking their own party members but president trump is urging Alabama to vote against his former Attorney General tweeting Alabama do not trust Jeff sessions the president including a campaign ad for his choice Tommy Tuberville Jeff sessions good on the president's any failed Alabama Mr trump still angry sessions recused himself from the Muller
"muller" Discussed on First Class Fatherhood
"Father all right so joining me now first class father. Michael Muller Welcome to first-class Glass. Fatherhood thank you nice to meet you out. I'll let's start right here. How many kids you have? And how old are they. I have three daughters The oldest is fifteen and a half and I know the half is getting drivers Irvine which is and then I have twin girls that are twelve and a half the three daughters what type of boss sports activities that are girls into really really active. They do a volleyball. big-time arena. Either a drought relief so volleyball junior lifeguards during the summer soccer Dri Surfing into gymnastics. So much anymore but in a Now okay wow that's very cool all right if you could just please take a minute here. Hit My listeners with a little bit about your background what you do you know I am A. I'm a professional photographer. Taking photos for thirty five years now started fifty shooting snowboarding rock and roll all with somebody. I started other shit like fifty Muthu away when it was sort of turned my lynch towards fashion celebrities celebrities But I have shot at all last thirty five years. Sports petitions will charkes Hannibal's the UN global advocate. What lot of charity work children's hospitals refugee work with in I started directing maybe seven eight years ago in your arm for years ago to virtual reality about to ooh released It's the blueprint. VR TEN PERC series. That water break. What do you think yeah very cool? Yeah very impressive career Michael. About how old are you when you first became a dad and had to becoming a father kind of change your perspective on life. I arosa about thirty five years old. I had Clara You know we would have to relents a couple years years older than me. It sort of pretty.
"muller" Discussed on Heavyweight
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"muller" Discussed on Heavyweight
"This episode of heavyweight is brought to you by squarespace Jonathan. I think it's time you went legit for. Hey Josh editor at Gimblett media with all due respect wet in the world are you talking about put my moonlighting side project and side-hustle have all been cleared by HR Jonathan. I'm talking about how you find. Old stuffed animals animals in the garbage dust them off stitch-up torn little ears and noses and south from the back of your mom station wagon blissed out Dum dums at major music festivals. That's not illegal. Is it legit businessmen but in that I pay my taxes. Jonathan Nothing legit unless it has a website does your quote unquote business. Business have a website. What's a website? Oh brother I've learned that a website is one way to legitimize your side hustle and squarespace makes it. It's easy to make one. They offer beautiful. 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Her Her Brennan tells me grandfather was the doctor who was eventually captured by the Russians and sent to a Soviet prison camp. These camps were notoriously brutal with hundreds of thousands of German captives dying from violence malnutrition or forced labor for years. Dr Muller didn't know whether her father author was alive or dead on the day of an allied bombing campaign that would devastate hometown. Doctor Family didn't have time to make it to the local bomb shelter. Turn which was fortunate because it was destroyed instead. The family hid in the garden. Shed which turned out to be the only part of the House that survived if the devastation. The bombing wasn't supposed to hit them. That hard annika is journalist who lives near Ephron were Dr Mueller grew up. They were actually aiming at the harbor in Cologne but they had the order not to return with all the weapons. Like get rid of all your your bombs before you get back home. Don't go round flying with all the bombs but just drop them somewhere and so unfortunately they were dropped on F oven. I commissioned Annika to find out anything she could about the Mueller's so she'd wandered the streets of Efren looking for traces of the family but most of the people who lived in Efren during the war are now gone. I ask if she was able to find out anything about Dr Mueller's father anything that might elaborate on his capture by the Russians. What I did come across and that kind of struck me was that he was a Nazi doctors? Union at the time so the doctors in this union their job was it to tell people From a medical perspective why one race would be superior to another now the race. eugenics exactly the mission of the National Social Esteban as the union was called was to make sure doctors were aligned with the Nazi spirit. We can't know for certain that Dr Mueller's father was enforced to join. But we do know that by the end of the war half of the ninety thousand doctors and Germany. Germany were not members of the astro went in other words. You didn't have to be in the union to practice medicine on top of that. There's this he wasn't just a member but he is listed as like the Kaiser Onsite which okay how do I translate. The rough translation is that Dr Mueller's father was an upper level manager in the Nazi physicians. League he oversaw district of two million people while it's impossible to know is private intentions and beliefs given the prestige of his position. It's unlikely he was a secret hero of the resistance. It's a leader of his rank let alone a medical leader would at the very least been aware of the systematic sterilization an and execution of those deemed undesirable among them. The so called mentally. Ill know under Dr Mueller might have felt compelled to leave the past asked where it was. What are your recollections of Herbert? And his wife no good people. I'm proud to know. I'm glad to be their friend once again again. I find myself speaking to a German psychiatrist and Montreal. His name is Dr Gert Morgenstern. And he was close to Dr Mueller and her husband Herbert both friends and colleagues. They would gather at Dr Morgan Stearns home in a quiet neighborhood in Montreal were Dr Mueller's husband. Herbert and he played music together. Herbert on the flu Dr Morgenstern on the Piano Dr Mueller would wander in and out listening to them play. She spent many hours in Dr Morgan Stearns Home Dr Morgenstern San Mark explained at the beginning of the conversation that his father might not have much to offer in recent years. His memory has begun onto falter and much of Dr Morgan's past has become loss to him. But since this might be the only chance I get to talk to someone who actually knew Dr Mueller who who can speak to her as a friend. We decided to give it a try. I asked Dr Morgenstern. If he remembers spending time with the Mueller's yes I think so. It was pleasant. We look forward to it. Mark says has his father's memory fails he's held onto the happy memories and allowed a lot out of the painful ones to go like the Mueller's Dr Morgenstern was a German who emigrated to Canada. But unlike the Mueller's he was a Jew he fled. Let Germany in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven a year before Kristallnacht. You both immigrated from Germany. was that a subject that came up. I don't remember life during the war. I don't remember any of that so she never talked with you about what she went through during the war. Not that I remember and we talked about was what we were doing and what we were planning to do. Dr Morgenstern says they never talked about the past that they didn't talk about their religions. Then even talk about psychology and they never discussed Germany. Mark says that after fleeing his father never spoken a word of German again so if they didn't talk about the past what did they do together make music and talk and what. What did you like to talk about wrote the music? We were playing because he was a fellow therapist as well as her friend. I asked him what he knows about. Dr After Mueller's practice her approach throughout our conversation. Dr Morgenstern Answers are brief a few words at most but when I asked him about Dr Dr Mueller's insistence on self birth and whether it was an idea that she tailored to my situation or some obscure therapeutic method Dr Morgenstern grows animated. Did she wasn't it wasn't doing a method. She invented what she said. It's a continual process had an attitude toward life in other words. You're you're actively producing your future in your present. You are decisions to make the have memories to select act and you're building your future. That way never actually finished giving berthier. So it Ed Never Completed Act. Well I take in my inability to give birth to myself as the failing of either myself for Dr Mueller. He wasn't really. Maybe Dr Mueller telling me over and over that birth was imminent was her way of saying there is no end point. It's just living and that's the point..
"muller" Discussed on Heavyweight
"Toward the end of Neal's therapy doctor. Mueller was diagnosed with cancer. It made her weak and in the last year she would disappear during their sessions for long stretches in the bathroom. The last it's time I saw her she. She shook my hand goodbye. I was very brave. Gracious dignified thing. The way she did it she said. Good luck I mean. She meant that she was like saying. Good luck with all of you. All of you kneel just good luck and she looked me in the eye and anyway so she shook my hand and forever's Lake burnt into my brain about a year after Neil stopped singer at the age of seventy seven. Dr Mueller died of cancer As with me Dr Muehler wasn't very interested in learning about Neal's past but unlike me from time to Time Neil did learn something about hers Bruce particularly towards the end as the bigger issues in his therapy receded and a sort of friendship emerged. They just talked sometimes a better better family life back in Germany. I think they were fairly wealthy. I think of right professional wealthy family. Her father was a doctor. They had a beautiful home. Tom Many stories and then The Nazis came and they absconded. They're in their home and used it for headquarters and her bitterness about the war. Is that as a German. She was regarded as the enemy. So I think that kind of smarted. She constantly constantly talked about Jews not the only victims and it was confusing her for her to work with Jews. I think she'd never said that. But I I think that you know his a lot of Jewish people in Montreal and the attitude toward sermon so I think that had to play back on her own wounds because she exposed her ones and I think I always thought that her we were. Also we're a part of her therapy.
"muller" Discussed on Part of the Problem
"Did it and they won trump was right he was fucked and above that above trump's own agenda what I think this cost the country and honestly if he had followed through with that agenda that would have been the biggest thing of all but second to that what I think it costs the country is that when Donald Trump got elected. It should have been a moment for all of us for everybody who cares about this country who care who's in the space of commenting on politics fix for Democrats Republicans Independents Greens commies Nazis Libertarians. Whoever the fuck you are for everybody? It should have been a moment to go. Whoa what's going on here like let's have a reset what the fuck just happened? Okay the Republicans should have been like wow we were ignoring issues that are voting base really cared about. I mean we chose these two guys you know Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush to battle it out. No one even liked them and they love this guy. WHO's talking about completely different issues? Whoa we're not representing our people for the Democrats to go holy Shit? We Thought Hillary Clinton should win. Forty nine states against Donald Trump and she's lost cost. What are we missing? The mainstream media should have said holy crap. I mean these people are really angry at us but we're supposed to be championing them. Why why are we rightly should have been this whole reset where everybody evaluated everything and said hey what's going going on here? What what the Hell is going on your? Let's think this through and if Donald Trump is so dangerous and so bad well. Let's calibrate so that the country doesn't go off the cliff here with with craziness okay like there should have been this whole moment moment and instead everyone went Nah. They're racist and Putin did it and it it took away this moment that should have followed Donald Trump and the reason I say it is because I <hes> I think if you're worried about the direction the country's going in if you don't listen to the advice of the Donald trump correction believe me. The next guy is going to be a lot worse than trump you're going to get you're GONNA get another. You're you're going to get an actual extremist. You're going to get what you project onto Donald Trump. You might actually get that one day. You know it's like what I say. Within about Antifa all the time you talk about how there's this fascist you know like a white supremacist movement in the country and you're almost it's like well. We'll keep doing what you're doing and there might actually be one day and then when you see it you'll be like oh wow there really wasn't one before turns out. Charlottesville wasn't that big of a deal but it it could be in the future so this story on for for many different levels levels is is a really big deal and I I gotta say like it's even for me for somebody. Who if I do say so myself I gotTa say I think I've gotten the story pretty much right from the beginning most insistent motherfucking out well? That's that's a given the most consistent motherfucker you know <hes> please get my title proper <hes> but even for somebody who's gotten on this has been pretty accurate. I think on what I thought this whole thing was but it's amazing to see it. Turn into this you know to go from trump Russia collusion twenty four seven. He's a puppet of the Russians he's been what he's doing Putin's bidding and all these stories and to see it end with this pathetic showing by Muller just being grilled and refusing to answer questions and we all know why he's refusing to answer the questions because if he did did he would be an admission of itself. This is where we end. It's it's been an entertaining ride. It's been a hell of a story. It's it's interesting to live through moments like this where you're like this really is history story and when I say this historical in the same way that you know if I if I think like five to six just moments that have lived through in my life and my thirty six years on this planet I really do think this is up there as one of the biggest stories in modern American history. It's like nine eleven a huge won. The war in Iraq was a huge one..
"muller" Discussed on Part of the Problem
"He's. The Guy said we had no shift in this one jiffy swallow where the worst but the the both of them said that they we had evidence that donald trump conspired with the Russians both of them said that to their I mean the the idea that there's no punishment for that. We start doing a bit on the show at the end of shows we could start calling their offices and ask him for the evidence there another this is all over. Can I see that <hes> <hes> that evidence yeah no but then they once they're called on it and once the thing came out I mean I remember Swale was on a Bill Maher. Show it was right before it was when it was like the night that Muller announced the the investigation was wrapping up and that there would be no further indictments and if you remember if you can put yourself back in that time space two days earlier. Maybe the former head of the C._I._A.. John Brennan Annan guilty of treason arming al-Qaeda. He said there were GonNa be more indictments that you were going to see Don Jr. go to jail. You'RE GONNA see trump's family. Get indicted. You're gonNA see trump indicted. They were so everybody so when it came out that there were no further indictments you hadn't hadn't yet heard you know no collusion or conspiracy or any of that but it was like Oh wait what this already doesn't sound right and so and Bill Maher said something like you know swallow who is one of the guys who was like saying we we we have the evidence of this he said did we put too much faith in Muller like what what do you mean no more indictments. I thought all of trump's family and I thought they were all going down and swallow goes well I. I don't need indictments to know what I've seen seen in plain sight. I've seen you know I all you need is a twitter account to know there was collusion and he falls right back onto this just bullshit talking point and it's like Oh okay I can see how much the public like that guy for. How long is presidential campaign last yeah he already? I had to drop out there is still seventy five people running for the Democratic nomination and he already had to bow. Here's the first one to drop right. I believe so I don't know I think so I think like when Marianne Williamson is still in there and her fucking budget plan John is more crystals in the White House. That's a you know you did a bad job and I'm not even familiar with that. She's like the new age hustling power crystals that give you strength. I don't know if they put them in the White House. They make better decisions. I'll honest is probably a better budget than the one that <hes> just past might not so I can't I I'm not completely against it. Bring better fives the White House with ice crystals hoops. I'll be honest. I'm almost sold. She almost has if tolsey drops out she might be. The Democrat uh-huh yeah woohoo crystal girl doesn't seem to have much of an opinion on war but <hes> you know she's better than the rest all right. I think we can leave the episode there. I wanted to come in to talk about this. This seem to me to be you know I. I know we've talked about this story a lot not <hes> but I think it's justified. I I really think this is like one of the biggest historical events that I've lived through in my life. I think almost like up there with nine. Eleven eleven the war in Iraq like just the big shit that I've lived through my life even Clinton being impeached. I mean Clinton being impeach was nothing compared to this. This was a clear attempted coup by deep upstate unelected bureaucrats and spies to get rid of a guy to unseat a duly elected president because quite simply..
"muller" Discussed on Part of the Problem
"Yes someone else lied to you but he wasn't on team trump and so she fucking gets he gets a free pass all right. Let's let's play this because this is actually a really the interesting point that <hes> Jim Jordan ends up making allstate. Let's remember this. Let's remember this in two thousand sixteen the F._B._i.. Did something they probably have it done before they spied on to American citizens associated with the presidential campaign pain George Papadopoulos Carter page with Carter page they went to the Fisa court they use the now famous dossier as part of the reason they were able to get the warrant and spy on Carter Page for a better part of a year with Mr Papadopoulos. They didn't go to the court they use human sources all kinds of from about the moment happened joins the trump campaign. You got all these people all around the world starting to swirl around him names like Haufer Downer Smithson Thompson meeting in Rome London all kinds of places the F._B._i.. Even sent even sent a lady posing as somebody else went by the name as return even dispatched heard the London to spy on Mr Papadopoulos in one of these meetings Mr Papadopoulos talking to a foreign diplomat and he tells the diplomat Russians have dirt on Clinton that diplomat then contacts the F._b._i.. And the F._B._I.. Investigation based on that fact he point this out on page one of the report July Thirty First Twenty sixteen the open the investigation based on that piece of information diplomat tells Papadopoulos Russians have excuse me happen tells the diplomat Russians have dirt on Clinton written diplomat tells the F._b._i.. When I'm wondering is who told Papadopoulos Audi find out it can't get into the evidentiary issue 'cause you about it? You gave us the answer page one ninety two of the report you tell us who told him Joseph Nathan Josef Mifsud Guy who told Papadopoulos the mysterious professor who lives in Rome and London works to teach in two different universities. This is the guy who told Papadopoulos. He's the guy who starts at all and when the F._B._i.. Interviews him he lies three times and yet you don't charge him with a crime you charge Rick Gates for false statements you charge Paul Manafort for false statements you charge Michael Cullen with false statements. He charged charge Michael Flynn a three star general with false statements but the guy who puts the country. This whole saga starts at all for three years..
"muller" Discussed on Part of the Problem
"You're it's it's a great point and it actually <hes> leads very nicely into what he's saying does like as an example of what you're saying right like <hes> so I know I've used this example before but it's too perfect to not use more but so James Clapper will the they'll ask him is the N._S._A.. Involved in any you know mass bulk data collection of American of unwitting American citizens and they'll say no we don't do that. I mean that's what they were doing and he lied about what is in the legal spying apparatus the biggest spying apparatus ever created by man a really consequential important lie not miss remembering or getting something wrong. He didn't know the N._S._A.. was doing that of course he knew he was the director of intelligence he knew exactly what was going on <hes> but he lied but like you said he plays for the right team. Cohen on the other hand could be like oh we we called off the deal in Moscow in January and it turns out it was July and they go completely legal business deal. You got the wrong month which both started with Jay like could have been an honest mistake but whatever you're busted your fucking lying to the F._B._i.. Or whatever you know like you'll you'll get charged is about what team you're playing for because you were playing for team trump and that gets right into the point of what Jim Jordan was getting at here so let's play that video and watch the shark at work ninety three volume on Nipson denied Nipson also falsely stated in addition nips. It omitted three times. He lied to the F._B._I.. Yet you didn't charge him with the crime. Excuse me I'm sorry. Did you say one ninety three volume one one nine three. I'm I'm sorry. Did you say we're having lobster bisque. I ordered Split Pea hilarious where he's missing line skirt and you didn't charge him with the club. I'm sorry these questions complicate. I'm confused. I'm sorry I was told I could get a pair of dry socks before the hearing began yeah. It's just the contrast between the two of them is amazing all right. Let's let's keep playing times. You pointed out in the report. Why didn't you charge them with the crime I I can't get into <hes> internal deliberations with regard who would or would not be there already why why not why can't you see this is what fucking drives me crazy right so if you ask about something something so bar theoretically by the way don't hold your fucking breath? I hope I'm pleasantly surprised but bar is now investigating the origins of the Russia investigation right supposedly doing what we would want him to do but probably nothing. Nothing will come of that because he's a deep state tool himself so if you ask a question about the origins of the Russia investigation will I can't answer that because that's being investigated well. Your investigation is closed. It's not currently being investigated so let me ask you some questions about what happened in your investigation. I can't answer about deliberations behind the scene but you can't answer about how you feel about trump tweet but you can't answer about why you decided to charge one person why there was not an equal application of the law. You know what they need. This is what would change this whole thing TV production. You know maybe we'll take my notes. Maybe they they maybe they won't they never do but go ahead. Throw is good. I want the Supreme Court there right then and there when he said something like that you go all right pause yes or no does he have to answer it or not and then let's get a ruling. It doesn't really have to be the Supreme Court. Get your degree to WHO's going to be there so when they go hey I can't answer that you pause and go. Does he have to answer it. Yes he has to answer it. Because this game aim of all I can't answer who said he can't answer. We already know that you were lying when you said that like your judgment standard for the way prosecutions work you lied about that. You're lying about all sorts of you get into this. Why can't you say what the internal discussions discussions were about like who you were going to charge who you weren't because that's a very interesting detail?.
"muller" Discussed on Part of the Problem
"To that ladder with another hand as you fly through the skies of New York City the last thing the last thing they're hanging onto hanging onto desperately desperately was that Donald Trump did commit obstruction of justice now. I know I know we've been telling you he's a Russian puppet and he colluded with the Russians and none of that's true however into the investigation that he was innocent of she obstructed Justice Pastas and even though Muller didn't say he obstructed justice he did kind of say well. Here's ten instances where he might have and the only reason why he didn't conclude that trump obstructed justice was because there's this department his Justice Department legal opinion that says you can't charge a sitting president with the crime so <hes> you know he could be charged as soon as he leaves the White House and and this is where they get to the stuff where if you wasn't president didn't he'd be charged with obstruction of justice now as I pointed out on the show before this number one this is just really stupid because the idea that if trump wasn't president he could be charged with obstruction of justice like well if you weren't president and you fired the F._B._I.. B._I. Director what does that even mean. Only the president can fire the F._B._I.. Director so well if you weren't president but you thought about firing the special counsel what if so if I just fired a special counsel. I can't nobody except the president can do Ooh that's even to even put it into the context of not being president was stupid. However this was a death blow to that whole this was cutting the ladder and now you're falling with that little girl in your arms down into times square or or the Hudson River below you Muller said No? That's actually not right. He said he said that we said we couldn't come to a conclusion on whether or not to charge him with obstruction of justice and that is that's it. That's the end of it so in other words he wasn't being charged with obstruction of justice now. Everybody should have known this already because the even by the Department of Justice guideline that says you can't charge a sitting president which I find hard to believe that they would actually enforce it by the way that's not law. It's just something that the Legal Opinion Office of the Justice Department kind of came up with because are you telling me that if Donald Trump if they had uncovered evidence that he was a Russian puppet we'd still go. Well got to beat them at the ballot. Box can't charge present. You know what I mean. That seems crazy to me. However the the anyone should have known this because even though the guidelines says you can't charge a sitting president that doesn't mean that Muller couldn't right in his report he obstructed justice but we can't charge him because of this guideline he could have written that he could have said that also another pretty big blow to the obstruction of justice nonsense is that if Donald Trump had been guilty of obstructing justice? It's not like Donald Trump himself self would have physically obstructed justice right like even if Donald trump with he would have had people around him do it in which case you would have seen indictments of other people for obstruction of justice right so the fact that there were no other indictments of obstruction of justice. There were no indictments about a conspiracy with the Russians that is as that is in effect in exoneration on both counts by the way that word came up during the hearings that was so creepy when he's when when Muller went out of his way to point out that he couldn't exonerate Donald Trump and then one of the Congressmen to is credited jump on that and go exonerate like what the hell are you talking about. Prosecutors hitters don't exonerate people that is well outside the purview of a prosecutor. I don't even know who does exonerate people. MAYBE PRIESTS I. I don't know who can exonerate somebody. I suppose a defense attorney if they come up with D._N._A...
"muller" Discussed on WCPT 820
"Muller wrote a letter in late March complaining to attorney general William bar, the poor page memo to congress describing the principal conclusions of the investigation, quote, did not fully capture the context nature and substance of Muller's work. According to a copy of taken by the Washington Post days after bars announcement Muller wrote a previously unknown private letter to the Justice department, which revealed a degree of dissatisfaction with the public discussion of Muller's work that shocked senior Justice department officials the summary letter the department sent to congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March twenty four th do not fully capture the contents nature and substance of this offices, work and conclusion is there's an important part. There is now a public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation this threatens to undermine central purpose for which the department appointed the special counsel to assure full public confidence in the outcome of investigations. The letter made a key request the bar release. The reports instruction introductions and executive summaries and made some Nishel suggested reactions for doing so Justice department officials say they were taken aback by the tone of Muller's letter it came as a surprise to them that he had such concerns day. The letter said our Muller spoke by phone for about fifteen minutes. That's what that was about the next day bar member sends another letter to congress saying, oh, my summering wasn't meant to be a summary. A really because we got that impression from the minute said summary was called summary. Yeah. Republicans on the committee are expected the question bar about an insertion surgeon. He made earlier this month that officials had engaged in spying on the Trump campaign. Rosenstein, just complete disgrace. Yeah. I try to the promise that president. Now. I'll drive you to the prom. Oh, convertible another another career right blown reputations blown to tatters for this. Trader. I I don't know a has on them. I don't know what he's promised seventy two virgins, whatever no idea. I know is that this people that this thing that they called God ain't working God can't get to the heads of Trump and Mitch McConnell that God. Is not working. Yeah. This God thing. Yeah. It's interesting. Here's another comment. Malcolm said this on our show before too. He reminds us that Al Capone didn't go to prison for murder for tax evasion. Money stuff, which is why they're furiously fighting because he is compromised, and that's the other thing Malcolm said this report did not look at is he compromise. Which clearly the most of us have eyes and ears. The answer's yes. Yes. That's why he's furiously suing did not have his tax returns Deutsche Bank records business records revealed. And the other thing is people asked about in the Cuna about the counterintelligence section and doctors others. The other who told me, by the way, his daughter grew up on our show. Chris. That he she freaked out when he was leaving. I grew up on seventy better is that wise. Question your parenting? All right. Thank you. But the asked about the counterintelligence part, and they said, oh, no that is going. They're not always said to us that is a spy hunt. And that is not there's no way to stop that. Then it is ongoing. This is why. Southpaw tweeted, Adam Schiff is telling Chris Hayes he hasn't been getting counterintelligence updates relating to the rush investigation that they've gone dark for a year and a half. That's the other thing we need to know, what is going on America's national security, and what's happening with the twenty twenty elections. Right. Exactly. What might be compromised? Yeah. No, exactly in which states. Yeah. It's all coming out here. Now empty wheel tweeted bargain impeachment referral, and tried to treat it as something else. And that is clear in the mall report. If you read it, it is clear that he is saying the only basically similar reasons charged is because of this stupid rule, which really is dumb rule that you can't indicted sitting president for the body of everything you see in the mall report. So at any rate. Yeah. Clearly, I think he mentions congress usually twenty times it is very clear. And so I'm sure remember what how what did I say Chris couple days ago when Muller testifies, and they ask did you mean for the attorney general exonerate him? He will say no throat, and are they gonna ask them? Did you mean for congress to get the full and unredacted reports? Yes. Of course, he did. That's what they are constitutionally entitled to the thing is the reason that they're still not how what did I say when this came out? How is that stuff? Yeah. The underlying materials, what's redacted and the grand juries sharpie out. Yeah. Get another one. I'm running out. Now, the one. By golf card, by the way, say so this is a message to Democrats, Nicole. Wallace tweeted this debate about the politics of impeachment being bad for Democrats blows my mind. Imagine if beach reviewed is politically popular Debs would be accused of commencing impeachment hearings for political gain Dempsey, take politics out and do the right thing. And I would argue it's going to be great for them politically exhibit A Elizabeth Warren has rocketed up to second in the democratic rights having bright little leaguer at the plate and swing the bat. Right to walk. Right. I mean, Joe Biden still way ahead. But but interesting the Bernie has plummeted quite a few points to third, but, but that's a huge story mayor Pete and Elizabeth Warren have throw. Yeah. Elizabeth Warren is up to second leadership. That looks like I love it from her. She has to hone days and putting out like really specific policy points, which is requesting Chris that's why I've been saying she's a perfect textbook example of the walk and chew gun caucus every that I keep talking about she's showing how you do what she's putting out very detailed policy, and she's putting policy points and showing you how we're going to pay for them. Right. That's what is wanted forever. Nebulous stuff from everybody else people accusing her of doing the peace thing for politics. Like, are you kidding? I mean, first of all she doesn't really talk about it anymore unless she's asked. She just said I read the report there is no other option we have no other option here when a new nickname, polka Trump bass. Yeah. No. Oh, my God friendly Fernando Bondi. Eric Holder, humid, a repenting tweets that they wrote before this came out, right? Eric Holder had tweeted any competent public corruption prosecutor would bring obstruction charges against Trump and win. The only reason Muller did not was because of the flawed DOJ every restriction against a sitting president. He said so below congress now has a constitutional responsibility. Here it is congress and boy Republicans just hop on board. Chris van Holland just posted the audio. We just played of him lying. You can't have an attorney general at lied to congress. I mean, okay. He said we now know Mahler stated his concerns on March twenty seventh and that bar totally misled me, the congress and the public. He must resign. He's in charge of making sure laws are followed in the United States for him to not follow the laws kind of disqualifying. Yeah. Just throwing that out there. Yeah. A lie under oath to congress. Once again, man, I hope we are people are paying attention Democrats. The media is how we got here is people being a bunch of sees. Yeah. After the bar cover up in falling in line. The people that Greenwald is further stretching to the Uber left. Hashtag, right. Yeah. We just talked about before know, Malcolm was doing a whole a whole hour talk. But it just that is not a knock on Bernie or Bernie supporters that the last the Khuda gras of the Russia operation. We welcome said started. I mean. Back to the final piece of this was to target Sanders. Supporters. That's not a knock on Bernie Sanders imports. But it was the whole point of the Russian operation was to devise hurt Hillary Jeff Sessions by pool in the Bahamas. Go Pablo wrong language, anyways. I would like to have another mo- hito, please. I am glad I recused myself delicious. Kevin. I mean, you know, broke it down that it really is very simple to understand the whole Russian operation is Russia. Good Hillary, bad Trump. Good. It's very simple to understand what they started doing and long. And he said this actually started rock Obama. Oh was reelected. And what's happening? What's happening? Dress for to make okay. Yes. This did not age. Well. This was always on Fox News that Glenn Greenwald. Go on Fox News to be a few whenever this was all we heard for twenty months is Robert Miller is a man of the greatest integrity and patriotism, the idea the very idea just think about this that he would allow Bill bar to run around making false and misleading distortions about what the molar team found and not one person on the Muller team, including Bob Mueller himself would stand up and say, wait a minute. He's distorting what our findings was that is laughable xactly the conspiracy theories that led to this entire mess in the first place. Hello men. That's me having the last laugh. Bring kind of dumb. It's just too many to be relevant little Nance bashing that other. There's there's one more from you to hear it. Well, want is kind of a strong word, but okay, Rachel, Maddow, and MSNBC are the Judy. Miller's of this story except unlike Judy Miller who scapegoated for doing things her male colleague in her career destroyed. Rachel, maddow. We'll continue to make ten million dollars a year for him because she's their most valuable brand. Yes, there will be no reckoning and consequences for this story that the media will radically raise and deliberately wrong for almost three years. Now glad kept.
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"Rippled through everything inviting very perry now mart absolutely gladys what would you like to ask channing we've got two minutes left no it's amazing how the whole generation is a new culture it's different when you are i the not only the work the hours responsive it's like more of this generation it's their own time their own vision and it's very respected when i was growing up it wasn't like that it was this is your job you need to do this and that's the way we go through it and with channing we see very dynamic open open workforce it's her choice where she wants to work and that's amazing that's i really think very example i would look to be that war of freedom exactly exactly right and of course you know when you talk about millennials and you talk about genetics i mean this is what they're looking at this is what they want so you know you're right in the groove channing that's all i can say it has just been a a real delight you know having you ear and listening to what you have to say and for those out there who are thinking about going into business think about what you know channing has had to say and see if there isn't a way for you to develop your own business around your preferred lifestyle that's what it's all about that is really what it's all about i guess it's time for us to say goodbye gladys yeah.
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"Of the same type of business philosophy as i do about other people's times so but we have about five minutes left channing so one of some of the things that you would like to get out to our audience that we may not have asked you about my favorite thing to tell me that marketing doesn't have to be hard in order for it to be effective and i think that there's a lot of information that is out there right now and there are so many different directions that you can go with do i do print advertising do advertising debut social media so doing email campaigns all of these things and as a result a lot of people tend to either get overwhelmed and do nothing and just kind of hope that their referrals continue to come in or they do so many different things and they don't take a second to stop and see what's actually working for them so they get burned out and it doesn't have to be that way right you need to just find sometimes outside perspective whether it is me or it is another consultant it's a friend who also the business center can kind of give you direction of okay when you're in the thick of it you don't always the everything but this can be easier and if it is not proven from a roi standpoint whether from a branding if that's your goal in reaching a certain number of people or for an actual dollars back in the door it's not working for you stop putting your money into it stop putting your time in your frustration focus on what is there and having that kind of agile approach to adjusting both your business and your marketing strategy for which actually working for you not only make you a lot happier but it will also translate into everything else you do in your business and you'll start attracting the same type of clients i do right lose that understand what you're offering and want to work with you whether it's a product or service because it comes out in the context of creating the words you're writing the way you talk to people in meetings or at your events it.
"muller" Discussed on The Power of the Heels
"They're having a conversation and they're engaging and that is you know what these were about to begin with to do you have to be on every social platform no because that is a fulltime job for somebody freight and even then i manage their platforms i can only do so many at a time use seeking that it's not the ten minutes no it's not you can have it take a less time of your life but you have to strategically you know don't be on every platform beyond the ones where your target audience separately to correct when you mention now facebook i was watching tv last night because i still watch tv had there was the commercial facebook that i actually loved i have seen it and they're trying to get to bring the trust back of everyone on like a little story on how they begun and how they're bringing everything back i loved it i completely when i first saw it i was like oh they're marketing npr teams just hit that out of the park because it was the whole type was about engaging with one another and staying with one another thing in touch right brand you haven't seen in ten years but you still know that they just had to kids in the past five years like that's great faith gave us that avenue and they're trying to get back to that and they did a great job of what is now considered crisis management because it it became a crisis management based on the actual facts and fake media so how'd you overcome that right and i guarantee they had a crisis you know communication plan in place this definitely went a little bit further and maybe they didn't handle things in the wave and other pr professionals would but they're cleaning up the mess that they have to their their buttoning up the data privacy issues and the way that people share but no matter what their privacy policies are the easiest way to make people happy and i kind of remind people this everywhere just because you have a platform to share something i mean you have.
"muller" Discussed on The Power of the Heels
"They are watching things they're just watching videos on their phones or on a tablet and that is why notice that youtube is the number to search engine right google number one u2 the huge search engine hit for it can really vining engine and it's climate would chanting mean it's it's really giving google a chase so it it's it's really interesting how these things change from moment to moment it is standing one is doing and then you've got which and figure out what the next one is doing it's really it it's fulltime job just keeping up with all the photo media so game time you sick tres in for you to ask the question on where the cc the next five years in media i'm sorry i do get that that would be the perfect person for you to ask where does she sees the bags five years it media in social media you mean or media yeah in media okay well let's find out channing what do you think well there he goes i think you're going to continue seeing the trend of things are becoming more digital even the most important publications and the ones that have historically been around for awhile rate whether it is newspapers or magazines they had digital editions now maybe they're you know magazines have gone to quarterly prints but they're doing a monthly digital version where it looks like a magazine you just get to sit there and swipe to turn the page of the physically train one so despite everything else thinks her social media whatever's going on with faith the face because not going anywhere guys like it's here and it works if you use it right yes it has been taken advantage of es they have some privacy situations to figure out but one of the things in the end our help set people get with one social platform ever another people are still on it and as long as they're on it.
"muller" Discussed on The Power of the Heels
"Thirty five generations and yet right they may not be watching tv i mean it's so funny i was on a tv show in palm springs and it had just been so facing just and sold and they were trying to get a younger audience and i told the producer that i was doing the segment where i said but they're not watching tv you know they watch everything else but tv and why mess with formulas that successful but that's what the new management wanted and i thought that was really interesting but we met let me the ask something before remembered the the super bowl that was tv and there's a lot of things going around and baas about the commercials it's the commercials are as important as the actual game right because but the we'll if you look at it the commercials have more of an appeal because they're reaching a much broader segment the super bowl at self in the game is turned into people who football but in the events world and gladys you can identify with this right you may not love football or even care as long as new new orleans saints are not in the super bowl i really don't care who win bet on a little biased but i love the events that goes along with the super bowl right i love the come rotary with friends and family it's a gathering place where people and that you know the event industries hold that bringing people together ray shared experience the super bowl doug that and the commercials from twenty different industries reach twenty different segments of consumers whereas the game itself reaches football fans when you look at it from that perspective it's like okay yeah the commercials are becoming more important and that's why they're also as you know expensive they are because those you know networks know how many people that they're reaching and they do impact from it crew bent so we're going to back to the face to face you're a gathering some people to experience one type of event it is and this translate back into the other question about will yes face to face is important and while millennials may not be watching tv.
"muller" Discussed on The Power of the Heels
"And channing the welcome tanning she's the pencil impounded of dc communications our mike getting consulting firm they started to tennessee probably may how are you i'm good this is wonderful so hugh are coming to this show from the younger perspective and the new way of mike hitting content writing the magazine and the detoro because you you to write all fashioned magazine to say but talents how your life rollercoaster how i call it on how right now absolutely it has been a little bit of a rollercoaster with many different moves and cities involved i originally got my started in journalism and so i got a degree from the wonderful university of miami i am very proud very came for life and immediately while i was there he started writing for you mentioned fresh magazine originally it was a couple of local publications and the more affluent community than me onto the streets doing some things with the mind nissan sows so i worked in france in neighbors as well and that eventually led to biz bash the largest publication for the event industry and i really started the editor quickly became need miami bureau chief where i reside it for three and a half years then decided to expand my communication background and i moved to washington dc to work and a nother media publication doing advertising and that's where doing advertising conception design and strategy as well as actual operations and all of the system now this making sure that when people create ads they're actually designed for purpose and then also have a certain are lion they're complicating that through the analysis on the back end out of advertising yeah sorry go ahead that i with disconnects because now everything is about numbers how many people you read what's the return on investment and they're a lot of people are forgetting the old time contents beedi ragging so that has any to that way it has you're right because you do have a lot of people that now that we are in a much more digital age than even we were you know ten years ago fifteen years ago the now sit there and we're able to actually collect the data it's a matter of looking at it and so one of the challenges that print media is up against is being able to provide the same type of information.