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"mr pickens" Discussed on Into America
"Not matter and our first house guess was langston hughes the great writer and poet. He was my father's roommate in college and he came here in nineteen fifty two and read some poems. Was he just langston family friend. He's just call. You know he my mother very tight because they admitted i say nine hundred and five when he was a student and she encouraged him in poetry she incurs you write him and say he should should publish this and he'd back and have these letters rebecco. I'm not famous lock. Cajole him encourage. You am when he told my father. It meant this attractive woman in philadelphia. My dad talks on her out. And finally mariner shot. Let's let's stop the story as langston hughes with the matchmaker for your chance. You went back and told me there was this and philadelphia. Gotta meet it and got gotta made him and he merrin merrin wanna marry but his father said you gotta finish law school first before you use. I leave her out there available. Maria's area so they made a deal he married one thousand nine hundred thirty while he was still in in law school. Run away the graduation in nineteen thirty two. He's off fox fox out there. Hello so anyway but langston was instrumental in putting them together. Music is when all this is going on colin powell's a friend of yours got langston that you realize then even as a child there was something special about where our i took it as sort of ordinary because my parents friends and colleagues. They weren't celebrities. But we never thought that this was such as super special place that we were so different from our friends back in brooklyn. When did you start to grow. Why grew in a sixty started growing in the late sixties was during july of one thousand nine hundred sixty two. I just had three and japan. came back. I do the air force and bailout getting married. I was thinking about coming back and set a bachelor pad nine hundred sixty two that i spotted some beautiful girl walking up the beach an orange bathing suit. You can still see colleague. And she had shades on and she was beautifully ten. And i said to one of my old friends young lady. Who hadn't seem you're who and he's pat brandon. I said where's she live. She's from way down there and none of ice said walk. Introducing the tour is there are no you go introduce yourself right. I did and i want confronted her. She's one on the water and went to introduce myself and said about a movie date in that that was in A partnership that was formed right here. The waters agents saying harbor. So i only want to say harbor. Say it's amazing. how much you. Life is kind of intertwined entangled with sag harbor front. That's right saying arbor an sitting there. You know drinking a beer. Who couldn't i found out who dad was america and we were married for fifty one years. We'd be married fifty seven She had lived. You became an adult and married and had your kids out there. What are some of the members you have a brain year keys because our first born was a daughter pam and she had a first birthday party year. Second birthday party here. She's at a party because he was born june first so we celebrate in sag harbor routinely her birthday and my son's came out here and they were born and have enjoyed going up. Here this is. This is a part of their life that they don't want to give up in central tehran. Being after the break. Mr pickens talks about the origins of the black community instead harbor and.
"mr pickens" Discussed on Into America
"Summers ten chance. And i'm almost eighty five. So i came out here and the tender age. When he retired he decided to live out their full time. I've been here twenty years. I was first one in my family to retire here. I met mr pickens back in two thousand eleven. When i wrote a story about sag harbor for the huffington post so i called him back up to talk about the importance of this place. It's history and his experience growing up in the black hamptons. I had an aunt who had a home here. She built in nineteen. Oh eight wow. I came out in live going to camp in the forties. I came to sag harbor. I didn't like camp too. Regimented came out here where i could fish and swim and run and bike and all that stuff. So what would that initial appeal one thousand nine hundred eight. America was a different place but lack folks were finding their way out there. What was the appeal of his bucolic country setting on the water so she liked it and heard about it and came out and bought a little house with outdoor plumbing. Not inside plumbing. We outhouse as school. I was all school but that was how our family i came to sag harbor hundred and thirteen years ago. It's still traveling from new york. Yeah from our home in brooklyn townhouse in brooklyn. The whole family was coming out. My mother would prepare lunch sandwiches and put it in ice. Put it on ice from the icebox. If you didn't ever refrigerate you had an ice box And we would load the car. We had a buick and dan would drive and along trip in those days. You didn't have all these superhighway's for our five hour trip. And they own gas stations. Every you know forty fifty miles and then we'd get to sang harbor and we'd unpack the car and go to the on by then we had our own home in nineteen fifty so we unloaded and began to enjoy the wonders of sag harbor. As a family it was country. Yeah far different. In brooklyn new you went from concrete to sand and dirt and noise to quiet those an enormous difference in the quality of life the space and the clean air and the stars at night in brooklyn. You had smoke coming out of chimneys need. Never saw the stars that here they were clarion clear. You could see beetlejuice. The little dipper in the big debut. See you can see them in new york as you can see matt out here and zang arbor and at one point. I knew all of all of the stars and that was years ago and my mind was a lot sharper for me was great change from brooklyn and i love it. How often would you go out there. Why came out in the summer days. No-one live here year. Round except the shinnecock and montauk at families pretty much but for african american families year round existence wasn't possible man so it was a summer retreat memorial day to labor day and that ninety day period was when you have family and friends come out. And that's how we did sag harbor and then one day in the fifties. Some guy named colin powell showed up from the bronx and we became friends and we both went into service later in our lives and he stayed and did pretty well. He did right from so i think he did call. Okay and what was somebody summer traditions that your family would take party well. We wrote our bikes. We have bb guns. We swam a lot a hit. The beach played baseball to jackie. Robinson just joined the dodgers so all the black kids out here in the indian kids shannon cox. We all playing baseball steinway. Jackie robinson as amazing. There were bicycle races in this kind of thing. But it's very simple nothing to elegant a strategic but fun and then it was some fishing trips. My father by boat and he died to go fishing for portuguese. And this kind of thing and adventure you hide and seek with the kids would say seek. And all the children's games that we brought out from brooklyn and the bronx per johnny on the pony and bring leo. We played those games out here and was fun in the woodland's because you could hide better than you. Canada and tenements brooklyn. Kids had more freedom. You weren't monitored you know twenty four seven and you learn a lot about yourself and your friends. There was more free time more your own time and you learn how to do things and had no experiment. If you didn't feel it you do something in brooklyn you could try it out here and it helps us all to grow into man you know. It sounds like a means to escape the hubbub of the city and city life but in many ways escaping racism and gaze of white folks. We black would come together and be who we are together. Is that accurate. Well removed the racial tension that is omnipresent in america. Where white resentment works. Its way into your daily living here. A community of people who knew each other at converse college together worked together. Lived together in queens or brooklyn or new jersey or connecticut so we did not have the police looking at us with eskin. And saying you know we don't really trust you guys you newcomers. We're going to keep an eye on you. Have that hugh. We did not have the daily tension of the the white power structure looking at us over our shoulder. Monitoring behavior can we were sort of a closed society. Here where are more raising folk ways. Webinars they weren't imposed on us. They were generated by us. Big difference big difference. Why were communities like these harbor safe spaces for black people back back then. The town was which is ninety nine percent white. There were workman in town. The plumbers and the architects. And you know you name it. Gas providers and our relationship became interesting because they needed our money because the war had ended and this town was struggling financially and black folks injected a lot of cash into the society so our relationship was fine but there wasn't much social event intercourse though. Yeah it was. The the african american families all sort of knew each other. They were just twelve at one point. Twelve families here in sag harbor hills but we all know each other including my grade school principal. He was here. Much to my chagrin. Left him in brooklyn. You bought a house right in front of ours. What did it mean to look and see this community. This is burgeoning community of hardworking industrious. Beautiful black people on veteran because you had judges and lawyers and doctors and dennis and you had bus drivers. You had taxi drivers you you know. We didn't have any differentiation. Among the professionals versus non professionals we were friends and family and your title did not matter did.
"mr pickens" Discussed on KOMO
"Time. 905 Art Sanders in your top local stories from the comb over 24 7 News Center, the arrival of the UK covert variant in Washington as the state Department of Health. Stepping up its game to screen for all virus mutations comes, Ryan Harris explained. State epidemiologist Dr Scott Lindquist says the goal right now is to have 5% of all positive coronavirus tests sequence to find out if it's a variant. We also have a Very aggressive process in the state. Now, if the lab does a specific test, that is an indicator of it could be this variant were Gina typing those in real time. Lindquist also says the state lab is just a couple of weeks away from joining the U. W lives in screening for variance. Meanwhile, vaccine providers are expecting slightly longer term consistency and allocations so they can better plan their clinics. More than three dozen providers did not meet their target of giving 95% of the doses they received. So they're seeing their next allocations reduced. Ryan Harris come Oh new Governor Jay is, Lee says there will be thousands of legitimate criticisms of his regional pandemic reopening plan, like what Come counties claim it's still closed, while King County has higher covert rates yet can reopen restaurants. Peninsula. A says he believes the data and the broad view of hospital resource is make the regional approach The best plan, those who argue that a county approach would be better. I understand those arguments. They have some resonance with me The reason we did it this way, some of which not everybody thinks about, but we have to think about everything, not just our little narrow looking through the keyhole here. The governor also says they're re evaluation every two weeks instead of once a week and help protect a region from our return to restrictions if one county Is a bad week, he says. The ultimate goal is to save lives. Seattle Police Department now has a revised plan to bring it into compliance with a federal consent decree more from Cuomo's Jeff Pooja Love plan was presented to a federal judge earlier today who must still prove it. According to the federal Monitor overseeing SPD. The riots this past summer where a setback a lot of training issues are a lot of use of force issues, and they're a lot of disciplinary issues. When you combine all that that really effectively moved the city out of compliance. That's Antonio. Awfully. Among the provisions in the new plan is an effort to encourage officers to rat out others that abuse their authority. The department has been bound with a federal consent decree for years following the discovery of systemic civil rights and constitutional violations within the agency. Jeff Pooja, Look come on news. Legislators considered a pair of bills today concerning use of force by Law Enforcement House Bill 12 67 creates a new state office of independent investigations to look into police incidents, including in custody, death or sexual assault. Republican representative Brad Clippard says the measure is unnecessary, citing a case in Pasco. Which a man was killed by police on every level over a two year period of time found that the very first investigation was correct those after officers acted appropriately. The Public Safety Committee voted to move the bill forward. Another bill that creates a standard for police use of force was put off until the committee's next meeting. Southwest Washington Man's been charged in connection with riot of the U. S Capitol last month. Jeffrey Grace, who appeared in federal court in Portland is seen in the background of pictures of a man carrying away a lectern he's charged with knowingly entering her and remaining in a restricted building or grounds. Without lawful authority. Bill being introduced in Olympia addresses drug addiction recorded recovery by focusing on treatment instead of punishment. Calm, Oh Soo Romero report. The bill creates the Pathways to Recovery Act, which takes a three pronged approach to substance abuse disorder, outreach treatment and recovery support. Prime sponsor representative Lauren Davis says Our current system isn't working. We found one leg of a three legged stool. We pay for treatment over and over because insurance covers it. Former user Danny study. Um, now a drug and alcohol counselor, says all three parts are needed to help people succeed. People punishment for having a disease doesn't work. It just makes it harder for them. Under the bill, Police would no longer give out citations for certain drug possession infractions, but instead connect people with appropriate services. See Romero come on news news time 9 10 and from the Beacon Plumbing Sports desk. College basketball finds all three major Washington college is on the Go down and Eugene. It's halftime right now. The Cougars lead the Ducks 36 to 31. Earlier this evening, Gonzaga beat Pacific 76 to 58. Oregon State's over the Huskies 91 to 71 in the home of Beavers. Football gets a huge gift for a face lift. Here's Como's Bill's words. $50 million from an anonymous donor, largest single gift in Oregon State University history, and it goes to renovate Reaser. Football stadiums. West end When finished, says O. S U Athletic director Scott Barnes. Seating capacity will actually go down. From the current 45,000 seats and change to the mid to high 30. Thousands. Three Former U Dub Huskies on the Tampa Bay Super Bowl roster Vita via betting put away and the punt return specialist Jay Don Mickens, just like Washington. Only thing I'm missing now is Number one and number 16 on left and right to be, you know, but I love those guys. You know, from the core from Seattle on the line, and every day, Mr Pickens and the Buccaneers are a field goal underdog against Kansas City Sunday..
"mr pickens" Discussed on KOMO
"Sanders Top local stories from the Cocoa 24 7 News Center. The arrival of the UK Cove, it variant in Washington as the state Department of Health stepping up its game to screen for all virus mutations, couples, Ryan Harris explains. State epidemiologist Dr Scott Lindquist says the goal right now is to have 5% of all positive coronavirus tests sequence to find out if it's a variant. We also have a very aggressive process in the state. Now, if the lab does a specific test, that is an indicator of it could be this variant. Were Gina typing those in real time. Lindquist also says. The state lab is just a couple of weeks away from joining the U. W labs in screening for variants. Meanwhile, vaccine providers are expecting slightly longer term consistency and allocations so they can better plan their clinics. More than three dozen providers did not meet their target of giving 95% of the doses they received, so they're seeing their next allocations reduced. Ryan Harris come Oh News Energy's Leigh says there will be thousands of legitimate criticisms of his regional pandemic re opening plan. Like what Come counties claim it's still closed. While King County has higher Covad rates it can reopen restaurants but easily says he believes the data and the broad view of hospital resource is make the regional approach. The best plan argued that a county approach would be better. I understand those arguments. They have some resonance with me The reason we did it this way. Some of Which not everybody thinks about what we have to think about everything, not just our little narrow looking through the keyhole here. Governor also says the re evaluation every two weeks instead of once a week and help protect the region for return to restrictions. If one county has a bad week, he says, the ultimate goal is to save lives. Seattle Police Department now has a revised plan to bring it into compliance with a federal consent decree more from Cuomo's Jeff Pooja Love plan was presented to a federal judge earlier today who must still prove it. According to the federal Monitor overseeing SPD. The riots this past summer where a setback for a lot of training issues are a lot of use of force issues, and they're a lot of disciplinary issues. When you combine all that that really effectively moved the city out of compliance. That's Antonio. Awfully. Among the provisions in the new plan is an effort to encourage officers to rat out others that abuse their authority. The department has been bound with a federal consent decree for years following the discovery of systemic civil rights and constitutional violations within the agency. Jeff Pooja look come on Use legislators considered a pair of bills today concerning the use of force by Law Enforcement House Bill 12 67 creates a new state office of independent investigations to look into police incidents involving in custody, death or sexual assault. Republican representative Brad did. Clippard says the measure is unnecessary, citing a case in Pasco in which a man was killed by police every level two year period of time. Found that the very first investigation was correct those after officers acted appropriately. The Public Safety Committee voted to move the bill forward. Another bill that creates a standard for police use of force was put off until the committee's next meeting. Southwest Washington Man has been charged in connection with right of the U. S Capitol last month. Jeffrey Grace, who appeared in federal court in Portland is seen in the background of pictures of a man carrying away a lectern he's charged with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority. Grace told investigators he was not a member of any of the organized groups of writers and picked up items that had been knocked over. Before leaving Bill being introduced in Olympia addresses drug addiction recovery by focusing on treatment instead of punishment come Oh Soo Romero reports. The bill creates the Pathways to Recovery Act, which takes a three pronged approach to substance abuse disorder, outreach treatment and recovery support. Prime sponsor representative Lauren Davis says Our current system isn't working. We found one leg of a three legged stool. We pay for treatment over and over because insurance covers it. Former user Danny study. Um, now a drug and alcohol counselor, says all three parts are needed to help people succeed. Punishment for having a disease doesn't work. It just makes it harder for them. Under the bill, Police would no longer give out citations for certain drug possession infractions, but instead connect people with appropriate services. See Romero Come on NEWS someone who's times 7 10 for the Beacon Plumbing Sports desk. College basketball finds all of our three major Washington Colleges on the road starting a little later at eight will be the Cougars and the Ducks. Right now we're in the second half the Huskies behind Oregon State leading 47 to 35. And at the half Gonzaga's behind Pacific Tigers, leading 32 to 31 over the Bulldogs in the home of Beavers. Football gets a huge gift for a face lift. Here's Cuomo's bill's words. $50 million from an anonymous donor, largest single gift in Oregon State University history and it goes to renovate Reaser. Football stadiums West end When finished, says O s U Athletic director Scott Barnes. Seating capacity will actually go down from the current 45,000 seats and change to the mid to high 30. Thousands. Three Former U Dub Huskies on the Tampa Bay Super Bowl roster Vita via betting put away and the punt return specialist Jay Don Makins, Just like Washington. Only thing I'm missing now is Number one and number 16 on left and right to be, you know, but I love those guys, you know, from the core from Seattle on the land, and every day, Mr Pickens and the Buccaneers are a field goal underdog against Kansas City. Sunday. Sports updates a 10 and 40 after the hour. Bill Swerts Comeau News..
"mr pickens" Discussed on KOMO
"And it goes to renovate Reaser. Football stadiums. West end When finished, says O s U athletic director Scott Barnes. Seating capacity will actually go down from the current 45,000 seats and change to the mid to high 30 thousands. Gill Coliseum in Corvallis is where the Washington Huskies are playing Men's hoops tonight against the Beavers. Down the way. Willamette Valley about 45 minutes. Washington State tangles with the Oregon Ducks and tonight number one Gonzaga as the WCC basketball game in California's Big Valley, taking on the Pacific Tigers. Three former U Dub Huskies on the Tampa Bay Super Bowl roster Vita via betting put away and the punt return specialist Jay Don Mickens, just like Washington. Only thing I'm missing now is Number one and number 16 on left and right to be, you know, but I love those guys. You know, from the core from Seattle when I ran in every day, Mr Pickens and the Buccaneers are a field goal underdog against Kansas City. Sunday. Sports updates a 10 and 40 after the hour. Bill Swerts Comeau News Come on news time. 6 11. Well, we've been sharing a lot of stories about people who haven't been able to schedule a covert vaccine and last minute cancelations for those who do come. Moe's brand, Calvert chairs the story of a Washington woman who tried every trick she knew and finally got through Remy Warren Life's top price. Already these days, making sure she gets a covert vaccine figure. Having the vaccine just gives me just a little more peace of mind. She showed up for her appointment on Lee to be told. Sorry, we don't have any record of your appointment. Then we returned home a little down, but decided you can either fight it and have a hissy fit. It just doesn't accomplish much. This time. Amy wrangled her husband and daughter into the mix, and all three tried to book another appointment. We had three cell phones. Home phone, calling that 800 number and the computer after spending the day investing time and patience it paid off. Amy's husband got through. Went into the charts. He changed passwords did all that came back and still got me the appointment for Friday. If this really is an appointment, she has printed a second confirmation form, and she's headed to a second appointment. It's the same thing If I don't come in Friday, don't have a shot. It's active. The drying board. Most would agree. It should not take this much effort to get what could amount to a life saving injection. More doses are on the way, and the process will likely be much easier a few weeks from now. But Amy did not want to wait and she continues to press on B positive support everybody and we will all get through this together. I mean, it's the only way Brian Calvert communions. Social unrest in the pandemic have both taken a toll on many Americans Mental health over the past year. The story from Cuomo's Holly Menino, Kaiser Permanente, the rate at which people call into request mental health services has reached levels never seen before. Psychiatrist Greg Simon says he is optimistic for the future, though I think it's safe to say things will get better. On even just over the last few weeks. We have concrete evidence that things will get better that rates of infection in the United States, although they vary from place to place have started to go down. That's a great relief. We asked Dr Simon if there's been an increase in suicide attempt, so even suicide deaths, he said. We don't have data on whether either one has gone up. Or down, Dr Simon says. It seems like that data is even more delayed this year than in previous years, he says. That's not surprising because medical examiners and the Department of Health have been overwhelmed by the pandemic. If you or a loved one are struggling right now, there are resource is available, You'd call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline Open 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It's 1 802 73 talk. You could also go to their website at suicide prevention, lifeline dot org's that report from Cuomo's Holly Menino. It is 6 14,.
"mr pickens" Discussed on KOMO
"Football stadiums. West end when finished, says O s U Athletic director Scott Barnes. Seating capacity will actually go down from the current 45,000 seats and change to the mid to high 30 thousands. Gill Coliseum in Corvallis is where the Washington Huskies are playing Men's hoops tonight. Against the Beavers down the way Willamette Valley about 45 minutes. Washington State tangles with the Oregon Ducks and tonight number one. Gonzaga has the WCC basketball game in California's Big Valley, taking on the Pacific Tigers. Three former U Dub Huskies on the Tampa Bay Super Bowl roster Vita via betting put away and the punt return specialist Jay Don Makins, just like Washington. Only thing I'm missing now is Number one and number 16 on left and right to be, you know, but I love those guys, you know, from the core from Seattle and a brain and every day, Mr Pickens and the Buccaneers are a field goal underdog against Kansas City. Sunday. Sports updates a 10 and 40 after the hour Bill Swerts Comeau News Come on news time for 12. We've been sharing a lot of stories about people who haven't been able to schedule a covert vaccine and last minute cancelations for those who do. Almost Brian Calvert chairs the story of a Washington woman who tried every trick she knew and finally got through for Amy Warren Life's top priority these days, making sure she gets a coed vaccine figure. Having the vaccine just gives me just a little more peace of mind. She showed up for her appointment on Lee to be told. Sorry, we don't have any record of your appointment. And we returned home a little down, but decided you can either fight it and have a hissy fit. It just doesn't accomplish much. This time. Amy wrangled her husband and daughter into the mix, and all three tried to book another appointment. We had three cell phones. Ah, home phone, calling that 800 number and the computer after spending the day investing time and patience it paid off. Amy's husband got through. Went into the charts. He changed passwords. Did all that came back and still got me the appointment for Friday. Yeah, just really is an appointment. She has printed a second confirmation form and she's headed to a second appointment. It's the same thing If I don't come in Friday, don't have a shot. It's back to the drawing board. Most would agree. It should not take this much effort to get what could amount to a life saving injection. More doses are on the way, and the process will likely be much easier a few weeks from now. But Amy did not want to wait and she continues to press on B positive support everybody and we will all get through this together. I mean, it's the only way. Brian Calvert colonias with Cuomo News time now for 14 coma, traffic every 10 minutes on the force from the dupe in law group. Traffic center here against Marina Rock. Inger. There's couple real struggle spots up on I five coming into Seattle from Lake City, Way South, down four or five between 5 20 Newcastle neighborhood in Bellevue. North on I five is sluggish from Lake City Way into the Mountlake Terrace area South down by five at Highway a chance a real struggle down into the five curve. We have slowdowns in Lakewood, often on South Bound I five Heading into the JBL M area, and we still have a blocking problem being reported in the Michael Shoot reservation. It's on Auburn Eatem Claw Road, which is highway 1 64, just west of 3 90 seconds. It's what you're seeing slowdowns both directions there. We also have a collision reported in the South Hill area on one 22nd Avenue. He's just south of 1, 36, and in stand would a collision on Pioneer Highway west of 48th Avenue Northwest. Next couple traffic.
"mr pickens" Discussed on Connecticut Sports Guys
"But it was like the George Pick and show he battled through some maturity issues as a freshman last year but Oh boy did he show up in that sugar bowl? He was the best player on the field in my. Opinion and whoever is back they're throwing the ball. They're going to be throwing it to Mr Pickens quite a bit. So I think with those three running backs and with George pickens. I think they'll I think they'll handle Arkansas to be honest with you I believe they. Franks is definitely an upgrade over what Arkansas had last year. But you know they've got Raquin Boyd is running back. For Arkansas he ran for over eleven hundred yards last year at six point two yards per clip. But that offense just lacked consistency all year long and they lost a lot of non conference games not to mention conference. Games. So expect Georgia to roll pretty easily over the razorbacks. Better few years Arkansas has been anything's really speak about. Coach gene is I mean bobby betray? No KINDA. Put them on a tailspin hasn't stopped yet So it's been a while razorback for something to really talk about but you know who knows maybe maybe they can start running around with flippy Franks maybe steal a cup like. This where to but maybe they can at least the middle of the pack this year with France quarterback and then we got an insane and evil genius and the Alabama at Missouri Ten PM ON ESPN on Saturday night. Mack Jones. Like you said, is now the starting quarterback. they a couple of good wide receivers talking about Alabama. Missouri either. Yeah I don't know a ton about Missouri I I know they've got a pretty decent quarterback who is His name is Shawn Robinson he's actually a transfer from TCU. Lotta. Transfer is going on in case you haven't noticed but he's a dual threat quarterback who can run it and throw it. So I think you know Missouri usually has a pretty good offense It's just defense is where they come to struggle and I think they're gonNA struggle big time up against Alabama Najji Harris is a senior running back now and he's going to be the premier featured back I expect him to run. All over Missouri and then You know they did lose Henry Rugs and Jerry Judy. So they're gonNA have to have some receivers step up. You know losing two guys in the top first round of the draft you know I know that Alabama replaces guys pretty pretty consistently but you know that's that's going to be tall task for these guys Devante Smith senior He played some last year and you know showed flashes of brilliance but you know that's a tall order to come in and replace Jerry Judy and Henry Rugs starting to Kinda seasons both those guys had. They were unique talents I mean those two were just those are those are generational talent..
"mr pickens" Discussed on CopperShock Horror
"A couple of weeks passed and I didn't mind most of my chores. In fact, I enjoyed learning how to lace film reels through the first and second projector. I tried to make it a game when watching for the circles at the top right corners of the movie. Back thin film rails on lasted about twenty minutes ago, and then you alternated between projectors by covering and uncovering their lenses. The projector booth was a bit odd all the walls flooring and ceiling relying in metal. When the projectors had been running for a while this room definitely made you sweat. Even the shutters to the outside were metal. Mark and I were sitting next to the projectors watching bad news bears for the millionth time. Mark do you ever find it weird this whole room is nothing but metal. Not. Really mom explained it to me. It's actually kind of a good thing. Why Movie reels are getting some updates now but old school ones are made with nitrate and my chemistry teacher showed me how easily that catches on fire not to mention it smoke produces poison. When it burns, you'll hear legends about movie theaters burning down all the time, but that's usually the reason why metal projection rooms like this exist. Catch the fire in one room and try to make it safer. But what about the people inside the projection room? Market we're looking at each other as I said this. Burned alive it's my guess. The door opened and both market jumped. You idiots missed the cigarette burn flip the projectors already. Hutch grumbled from the door. I, looked out the projector window to a white blank screen below and unrest of audience had been turning in their chair to show upward projection window. We'd missed the screen Q.. Hutch-. I'm really sorry get out kid you hutch turned on mark you're getting paid. Aren't you move mark looked like he jumped about a foot off the ground when Hutch said move and I nearly jumped three steps downward toward the lobby myself. The remainder of my chores were fairly basic. I counted candy bars for inventory and would even sometime sell tickets upfront when it got slower toward the end of the night. When the last movie goer left, it was my job to sweep the theater and toss any garbage mark would clean. The bathrooms are lobby and mom would count sales for the evening and Hutch well usually he'd go up to the office to finish writing copy and do theater bills rarely did he ever stay the night passed eight pm I started my regular ritual of sweeping the theater chair rose and flipping up seats. had. A rhythm to it by now I was on my third road down when Hutch burst through the doors. I stood there looking at him just holding my brooms struck by his sudden entrance. It was a lot later than usual for him to be here. His face looked frantic as he looked around the theater hall. Laura, did you see anyone coming here? No Mr Pickens. You're sure. Hutch started to get on his hands and knees looking down the rows of seats for another set of feet I guess besides mine. It's been quiet. There weren't that many people for the last showing. It's Tuesday. Hutch. Stood up scanning the room. It made me a little uncomfortable, but I stood there looking at him as he started to walk towards the stage. Laura. Run up there and look behind that side of the curtain and all look on this side. I did as I was asked. I took stage left and he took stage right. The Green curtains flurry too little as I disturbed them but justice before. There was really no one there. I looked to the other side of the stage at home. Check the doors they should be locked, but if one is open, that's where they would be hiding. Who Mr? PICKENS Hutch promptly ignored my question with a wave of his hand and stepped up to the first door on his side of the stage. I could hear him rattling door handles and kicking metal across the floor. It sounded like a small empty paint can. I winter on my side and tugged at the door handles. Each time I moved to the next door down. It proved to be locked tight hutch quickly came over to me. He had already covered more than half of his stage area. I was about to reach the middle back over by the light switch when he walked up. I. Shook my head. He looked about the stage and upward toward the ceiling. And after a moment, he rubbed his eyelids with his fingers as if he felt a hectic coming. Hutch chuckled a little then started walking back toward the curtain partition. I followed him down from the stage to the theater seats. He thought I couldn't hear him when he muttered to himself. You're a brave kid to being here alone all the time. I stopped in my tracks as he continued to stop up the aisle toward the lobby doors. I stood there feeling strange and realized is still had half the theater to sweep. Normally I'd be done by now what he said kept echoing again and again in my head. In here alone all the time. I jumped a little when I heard a voice from on High Laura Hurry up I'm done putting away the reels and Mama's almost finished in the lobby counting the till. Mark was leading out of the projection window. Okay, I've still got this whole section I called back up to him. We'll go ahead and turn off the lights anything. You didn't get to tonight. We'll just do it first thing in the morning I'm beat. Mark shut the glass window to the projection room and walked away from the casement. The projection broom light blinked out. Leaning my broom up against the wall I looked up to the stage and side. It was true that I didn't mind most of my chores. But there was one. One shore I loathed doing. I took the steps up from the front row seats to the elevated stage. The white screen hung in the middle while huge green curtain winged its sides. And I tucked my little body behind them as I faced the wide empty stage before me. I took a deep breath. and Said my mantra before I started walking forward. So cave. Laura. Just in out like always. For modern buildings, light switches had the convenience of being right next to your entrance or does. Not, the Old Lady, her electric veins ran wherever she was fitted some time ago in the nineteen thirties when it was converted from stage to film. The old ladies light switch was tucked the back of the stage. It was a lonesome walk. The. Overhead Halogen Bulbs in the seating section served fine. But were diffused into a slight gloom when they struck through the heavy hanging white screen to the stage behind it. It put all my surroundings into a sort.
"mr pickens" Discussed on #hottakeoftheday
"That's part of the experience so now if I'm doing an online school why aren't they doing that for my parents basement so now universities close so then now there's professors who you've been tenured that don't teach that don't drive because they don't have a job and and so like you can shrink the economy so far that we may never get one hundred million barrels a day again and our Barman who. I'm sure you follow as well. I think he sort of projected like five to ten million of demand destruction. What do you think about that? Where do you think demand levels out in two years it? It's a great question and once again I revert back to what I said. I mean we've focused the top down so intriguing to talk about. What we're fixated on is a bottoms up. And so one thing to be clear on in January. We started to get a little bit nervous about crony buyers and we started too early January. We started to run a regressions on utilizing what we were. Seeing extrapolated route China Are actually panned out to be and I started stressing portfolio to see our position was based upon those potential scenarios. And we'll be concluded on because at that point in time we were essentially night. Says you know all of our positions were short like we. We tell our investors like this is not. We're not the hedge fund. That's trying to month month. I think that's in my opinion. It's trading opposed to investing we're investors and we focus on the intrinsic value and we want to position the portfolios investors in a manner in which we have longevity the capital tell them that this investment should be viewed more from the from the standpoint of a an irr as opposed to a month to month or a year type of return right so any investment that you make you should view it in our on an irr basis and when you insert that dollar you know we think that the velocity of those returns. Meaning that if the time is compressing. Your IRA. Ours is increased. Then that's going to be dictated upon more than likely what's what's out of control which is the commodities. Joe You look at that and when we start stress in the portfolio. Look I think if you know it gets as bad as it could potentially get in on where position really really well and I'll tell you. This is the truth on March seven. Which was the day that. March seventh was a Saturday six when driving in the office like no being short I was like my heart was literally shaking for the people in space because his seminal year discussions that you had an innocent people against the that's not is truth These are my words. Promised is true and it's just really challenging times and I think it's lost some people that it has been very challenging times for six years now and I think that what's going to be interesting. Is that now that oil has gone back to this. Twenty five hundred showed he did start production coming back online. You're going to see a response. Because those barrels are now inaccessible. What cash costs are and so it's just makes lodge they need to be producing? Those barrels is just an important part of the equation and so when you look at underwriting. These securities any focused on that. May we still foresee that Whether it's demand or supply or whatever happens in next two years which like I said. I think the arts on pontificate in his thought process in his in his Specific data points of maybe five to ten million barrels a day of less demand. I could very well be true. I also would be surprised because of it just gets me hard like India. Sandy Liquid United States. Nationalism is going to continue to reverberate loudly. You're going to have these countries. That are the nationalist movement began pre President. Trump's election and more isolationist tied events are going to create in my opinion it even more challenging environment or oil demand fossil fuel demand natural gas Grub because Powergen. But it's just going to be tough times and so how that translates I mean. Look if gas prices are going up because less associated gas Beneficiary for renewables. Renewables are going to be competing with your with gas on the from a power standpoint so that makes them on the margin arguably more competitive We do study some of those companies but were not invested their We're all the above approach. Mr Pickens has always been that way. That's kind of grammy. I'm a believer that you need every single form in order to be able to power anyone. Komo sufficient forms of power in. We're fortunate to live in a society and you look at the correlations. Between life expectancy related to how much incremental use also feels per capita in. Our industry is different from tobacco right. You actually utilize more energy. You're actually live longer lives tobacco you live more frigging tobacco products. You can deliver shorter period of life that the business models that we've been saying now for two years are very similar to tobacco companies synergies less interest expense less estrogen a less L. E. more efficient business models will create a free cash yielding vehicle. That generalists can no longer ignore just like tobacco. Companies are regulatory risk that risk there from not perception risks. All of those are risks right and at the end of the day. Cash matters in cash is critical in that will create an industry. It'll be sustainable. But then the human nature aspect comes into play in with human nature and jobs. And if you're somebody that's taking a million dollars two million dollars of cash out of the business you have a family to protect and even though you have a fiduciary duty. Maybe the right thing is to sell that company. You're protecting your family in your own self personal interest. That's when it takes much longer for the consolidation period happen I think. That's the big component that think people miss. I misunderstand is it'd be like me coming to you and say. Hey David I think I can do the podcast better than you. Why don't we consolidate you like no it? Outta here like. Have you seen what I've been doing right? No fortunately fortunately we don't get paid here on the PODCAST. So you you you you can take over any time you want. But it is interesting. So did you cover. Your shorts are you. Are you still position entered? We had six shorts We covered five of six in March. And you know humbly saying I mean I've let this business like says most humbling business. I mean it's so hard but we feel like unfortunately there's still a lot of really attractive opportunities in still on the short equity side and once again I want to reiterate it's not like an I. I hope like part of the promise talking about this office. He hoped that manage the company's still will answer your calls but the truth be told his I always hold the opinion that I hope if were short security in. I speak with you on the phone. Your plan is so so articulated in a manner to where it is so insightful in an altering from we have to remain the humility bill to alter our investment parameters if something that. We're analyzing is wrong. I hope to change our view and we cover that and we would be along if there's value there and so that's what I think is a little bit of the Misundersta side of the equation. Is this as in. You know trying to say our short energy your short shell companies. No this is analysis. This is math and I think there'll be appointed time and I hope that we're able to grow as a business to be able to capitalize on that point in time. He saw quantum raised five and a half billion dollars earlier in the process of doing that. I think there's going to be a phenomenal opportunity on no different than the eighties. And I think once that the G I wrote this down so wanted to you to have it shown seventy nine nine hundred seventy nine. There were sixty publicly traded companies in nineteen eighty seven. There were twenty in nineteen ninety. Six seventy four in two thousand and one there were forty now in twenty nineteen twenty twenty. You're at like a hundred and fifty right. The shale boom created the opening the capital markets. You know the kind of the TECH BUBBLE SCENARIO THAT YOU DESCRIBED. And then now you need the compression you need the consolidation and that's where we love in the sector. We hope we can be really really involved. In underwrite the securities and a point where everybody's happy everybody hopefully makes time money because cash flow generating opportunity off these assets is so abundant that it can't be well. I think that is a great place for us to stop and and I think that needs oil but you know what actually that is a great point. I can't do that but I I love it. This is fun. Yeah and the Abraxas. You know what I'm going to have you back on and I wanNA focus on on. Hopefully there'll be like attorneys with the the economy will be opening up and we consider back tests some of the comments but for the listeners. That the way I think about these conversations is is there is so much gray area in everything that we do and that regardless of your opinion on whatever the topic is is just having exploration with someone and listening to their views should change your mind about something and that that if there's anything I could hope for coming out of the corona virus it's that you know a one byline of an article that you read every morning on your favorite news station. That's an echo chamber misses the fact that you and I could have had this conversation. It could've lasted fifteen hours talking about long short and the business model and neither of US would be right. We both make a projection. We both invest in it and we see where it goes and and I think our our society has been dumbed down to the point where we think that that all issues can be characterized in a two sentence tweets and the that should form public policy. And and so I. I really enjoyed the conversation. It was it was wide ranging from from football. The T. Boone Pickens. And and you start your career. Which I think is great advice to wear. The energy industry is now and where the pains coming in the future. And and I'm really looking forward to having you back on a have been as I said a fan of yours for awhile and so it was really really good to to get to spend the time with you so thank you so much for joining lapsing on your comment. Because I think it's critical. We think that's a huge opportunity. Because one of our aspects words understanding these assets is listening. I mean there's so much knowledge to be gleaned from getting to sit down and talk to somebody that's been in the patch for decades and just learning from that. And the stresses and the pains in the cracks in the hands. And that's what we love to do. Is the real people talk with people that are getting their hands dirty and talk to people that are making the decisions from a leadership perspective and that helps Noreen liberal or these to underwrite screws absolutely until next time you can always follow us on the web at www dot heartache of the day Dot Com? Send emails anytime you want..
"mr pickens" Discussed on #hottakeoftheday
"I went from being a senior analyst on the team. Small team five investor committee directly on Hedge Funds. So we were the people that were working directly for legacy commodity product the Equity Hedge Fund that coalesced between commodities as well as public equities. Mr Pickens is private investments which encompassed one hundred and fifty thousand acres Lakers Mississippi Lime operations as well some Opportunities in the Delaware Basin some operating opportunities in the Delaware opportunities on his ranch. The what was unique about the experiences as you can hear you got to see the entire value. J. C. The public in the private and in fourteen. I went to Mr Pickens. We had dinner. Aren't which said a good spot here in Dallas and We sat down and I propose this. Strategic Shift on a headphone. You're managing and this was a week before OPEC decided not to cuss a week before the Thanksgiving Day meeting when they shocked markets similar to what they did on more clear seventh. Well I know you talk about the sounds. Seventh is one sided. Cut The PEOP- Yeah I mean it really was the fifth sixth seventh eighth and ninth is poll period. Time is the fifth you had Saudi. That comes out. And they seven one and a half that Peo Russia you had no fact that was back talking to Putin he comes back into the meeting on the six basically says deals off April. First were frigging ramping up as much as we as we want and then they responded like you are limiting dude that for that Saturday. Ocd PRICES AMOUNT OFFICIAL SELLING PRICES FOR. Saadi come out which said something that the the energy watched closely and they dropped it to historic low levels. Eight or nine bucks off aware Brent Turnley trading and you've alluded to in the hours sitting there waiting for five o'clock on Sunday o'clock central time in the futures market opens up and it was just made him and I know you talked about how you told. I think he said that the House early people you can talk to that boy time or something like that and it was. It was dark days and the Ramstein woodhouse house and you know it was I. I will never forget I I compare it. I know this crazy. I compare that weekend to September eleventh. You know slightly different. But just in terms of the impactful insured. Jfk assassination is up there with people too but for those and energy that weekend was the change of of the tide. No matter what you thought. The energy industry was before that weekend. It is totally different now but anyway so you were having dinner at rnd with yes. So he allowed the opportunity to become a soul portfolio manager for fund. So I manage that through the downturn. We hairdryers a six-year downturn so far started June. Two thousand fourteen year coming on the sixth year people kind of care tries in three separate years kind of two thousand fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty and so we look at it more just like this is a six year bear market for energy. And that's what it's been in the peak was June twenty fourteen so I started managing this Hedge Fund Forum and it was really taking what tended to be in the past was utilizing a to energy investing in coalescing what I've been spending the vast majority of my time on which was studying the specific of we traded companies and was diving into the bottoms of approach in. So we have morphed over time into this belief that you know. Commodity prices are essentially out of your control. It's a fun thing to talk about. But as Saudi has shown you even you know somebody that produces now producing seven and a half eight million barrels a day but somebody that typically produces ten percent of the global market or OPEC a cartel a whole bus Russia producing thirty five to forty percent of the global market. They can't even control prices. Joe If that's the case then you can. Only fixate fixate on what you can control. So we focus on the assets we focus on the rocks we focus on the capital efficiencies the amount of cash and actually be extracted from the hydrocarbons at you're producing on a section by section basis meaning that when he boiled down on those assets and. I know you know all this stuff disgrace great context for everybody so on forty acres. So when you think about ten thousand Were Boiling Matt Down. In each section. And we're looking at each section. Is that an empty positive project. And if you're putting a dollar ground into a non MVP positive project than it. Based upon math it's going to cost shareholder dollars so that formula was Kinda initiated in two thousand fourteen. I was blessed to be able to manage through the downturn. We were a positive is positive. Performance when energy rolled over by seventy percent and I resigned. Generally not twenty sixteen and the resignation was incredibly challenging. But it was because I also love the aspects of building business. My family studied family. My Dad started businesses. My mom started business grandparents. Old Nine yards. We are a family of entrepreneurs and I loved the aspect of instilling in creating your own culture. Which means that when build a team. And there's two of us in the office plus a Ping Pong table when you build that team. It's important that the mantra that we take every single day is that you gotta stick the EGO at the door. Put the EGO at the door. Common with your frequent launch failed ready in Hungary and willing to cry and that I'm GonNa be changing the paper in the Printer. And so you know we also need everybody. That's working here to have that same type of mentality. That's how the team moves. Forward is by that that aspect of just grinding and a not bringing eager to because this is the most humbling. Busy being you learn I learn every single day how stupid I am because when you're right you could have been more right when you're wrong. You should have been wrong and so you. There's no room in office in my opinion for an ego win. You gotta be gotTa set the pride aside and just focus on the fundamentals. So when I resigned I was actually doing a professional. Mba Course at SMU. And I thought I would be fully manager for him also get my pa. I'd love the academics as well. When I resigned I finished three classes. I dropped out to start allstone. Couldn't you couldn't balance finding the NBA Co mingling with Starting a company but I hope one day to go back and do classes. I love love. School and school is unlike the real world in school. You get an ABC or whatever the you know the the ladder is in the real world. It says a totally different formula. So even EGOS EGOS ARE INTERESTING. Because you know an atom and thing he bought it and and it's a great experience as a younger person. You know coming right out of school and going to work for someone t-bone because you know he also like and I don't mean ego. He's a character. He was very clearly the Alpha. He built this thing. He surrounded himself by people that he'd worked with for very long time. Presumably sometimes people would leave the organization because they were ready to do their own thing. Sometimes people just wanted to be the number two or the number three or the number six or whatever and so you see these these. These organizations especially long legacy people who've had success together and in particular become billionaires and the dynamic is very interesting and I think as a younger person. It's easier to fit into that culture and then as an older person you know clearly. I'm sure if you had been tenure hedge fund manager and you showed up at the Y. I'm sure t-bone would have said there's an NFL. W that. I'm going to bring you in because you are want train. You of all the habits I want you to have but then there is a time when it comes to go leave and you have to go do something from scratch and you did so so you started. Salt Stone in two thousand sixteen and the mandate is energy investing. We we are fixated we we love. We call it kind of a relational invest. I mean we. We want to know the people in which we're investing our capital with. And so you you know when your worst George Warfare for do sheers? And when you invest a dollar into a company a are inherently going to become the fiduciary to that that you're investing back so each share represents a partial ownership of that particular business in which he invested in. So we want to know not only you are. We want to know what you've done. In the past we WANNA know trial we WANNA know trials and tribulations. We WanNA know successes. We WanNa know all of those things and then you start diving. Deep into the nuances of the businesses and from a bottoms up perspective and where we feel like we differentiate ourselves is utilizing Relationships that were forced to be able to have and I'm sure people might potentially watch this as a thank you for taking taking my calls and I'm grateful each one of you and I hope we give some of that back to you as well but we don't pretend to be geologist engineers. I did take geology course at Tcu it was a you know the beginning stage judge or just love the sector by but we do like to know from geological perspective. What the rocks are actually telling you in. So that's what helps us from. Risk factor when you're looking at those assets know how should you value those rocks appropriately and then we build a model based on those particular companies and we tend to focus on the cashless dream on the BP redevelop producing resources. That are you know that that company is essentially drawing down and producing over a period of time and we value that stream and then we also look at the upside. That could be gone from an incremental. Well that's been drilled in. That's what goes into that. Mpv positive type project. Is this actually creative to shareholders? And should this project. So it's funny that you started in two thousand sixteen and we started one energy partners in two thousand sixteen as well and the second time in two days of heard about the oil and gas industry has been in the back since two thousand fourteen and that was certainly is go ahead. No that's interesting going because I feel like we're the only ones that's been saying that no I and I talked to someone yesterday. That will come out in the next week or so and they also described it as that and it's really funny because living it as I did and I I know you did but certainly as as an operator as a builder of a business. I didn't think about it as a six year. Bear Market. And it really. It really opened my eyes to a couple of things number one. The S. P. and the broad sector of of the world has not been in a bear market and the way that it feels to be in a bear market energy professionals can attest it is horrible. And so it's also interesting even though the bear market feels bad. There's times when you don't think you're in a bear market but it's this concept around bear market rally and and I feel like we've become desensitized based on the talking heads on TV. They're like oh it's up ten percent so you're bull. Oh It's down twenty percents so it's a bear and they're flipping all these terms but it's like we were in secular bear market which we continue to be in. It's it's sort of why I think a lot of the projections. I have in terms of employment and and what's happened to coal Kohl's been in a bear market for ten years and I don't think the psyche of America is ready for a bear market where stocks continue to fall time and time again. Jobs don't exist coming out of school unemployment just all of that. I don't know if our country is ready for that and I don't think the politicians understand that the lock down of the economy guaranteed the depth of the bear market is going to be so much deeper than anything we've ever seen and so for energy professionals. I feel like we're uniquely qualified to explain the pain that's coming But how did you totally agree? I? I've been saying that I mean it's it's a great. It's a great insight. It really is. It's it's you know you see and you see friends that are in different careers in different career paths overtaken and you see sectors that have obviously performed extremely well and businesses are cyclical. Some businesses have more sustainability than others but energy more so is incredibly cyclical sector and one thing going back to just studying. The cycles is and you alluded to this earlier. But the velocity of returns have changed dramatically because of different phenomenons that had been inserted in the marketplace in different changes that have that have been impacted in in terms of the actual players are in the financial markets routed to where they were ten fifteen twenty twenty years ago but when you look at history of from a cycle cycles in the last ten to fifteen years. I mean think about you mentioned eighty five eighty five. It took five years or you. Didn't it took. It took a war essentially for you to be able to retrace all of the prices in the early ninety..
"mr pickens" Discussed on #hottakeoftheday
"When I say worse that I'm talking about worst in the financial markets he had a good perfected that that's work and then there's life beyond work and he told us over and over. Though I mean he was incredibly devoted to work and one other story that I think One of my favorites. We got to spend a lot of time at his ranch. In Roberts County at sixty eight thousand net acres Roberts County. It was unreal. He knew every single tree. You've never seen those stone new. Every single plot of land as you can imagine started building that Started assembling that ranch in the seventies and over time it got larger and larger. And when he had his divorce I was also a young single man. Friday Mornings. He would tip. We've come into the invested as ICM's become an we'd be sitting at the round table and it was always Mr Pickens and then there is an empty seed and then I sat there and then across the table was our at trader and then a person building for forty years not everybody just. It was just a team right. We have been there for forever and publish saying I was blessed to be the first hired a decade or be began in two thousand. I guess twenty ten when I went from being interned in fulltime employees but Friday would come and he would say. What's everybody doing this weekend? And this is what he was singled. Everybody who kinda be sitting around the table there kind of look at me. I mean you know. I'm not really doing anything so he's like who wants to go to the rich. It's every almost every weekend for about a six month period. I would go to the ranch with them and we would just walk and we'd Watch football. We watch a lot of incredible movie theater and we would just talk about life. We talk about business. I would just literally ask him. Every single question From the eighties from the seventies from just trying absorbs much possible though that were some memories is conversations at vote share but some things that are just incredible but he is very amusing icon NAM. And somebody that you know. I think anybody going to get a job. The foundation that you lay in the earth's job that you get her the second job third job the money that you're making whatever it doesn't matter it's the foundation. It's that plan from that. You're building for the rest of your career. I'm grateful that he gave me a shot in a chance and I love them. I'm missing my wish. In these dynamic markets. We could our dinner yeah. It's it's really interesting that you talked about the first job and I think it ties together nicely with your concept of two thousand nine was probably the worst shot market ever until now and there's a lot of students who are coming out and obviously the world has changed and so you talked about the parallels of the eighties and the nineties and but everything is so much more complex the data so much faster you know you can create a social media brand out of nothing. You can create followers twitter. You I mean there's there's so much stimulation you have these students who are going to come out and have to build the platform and that your first job is your most important job and for me. My first job was in Anadarko. And I like you. You know I gone through. It was a really tough time and energy. I think people forget that. When did you start it in? I started in two thousand. And and so it was in Calgary and obviously like the energy industry head had been in decline since nineteen seventy three and. I think that people really forget that and then sort of nineteen eighty five and and my dad had been an oil guy and I always wanted to be an oil and gas. So there's no question. That was what I was going to do so I didn't even think about like was there gonNA be a job. I just assumed there was because that's what my dad did. And that's what was in my blood and Calgary was graduated and I mean there were just no. There were no jobs and it was a phase of consolidation and you know I interviewed. I went to the the Evening Information Seminar for BP. And I asked three questions. And I didn't get an interview now not surprisingly because I was like credit critiquing. Their business model in the in the open forum and I mean I now look back and I realized how much cultural fit and and like your tenacity of just going up to two Boone. And saying hey you know. Eight eight knows and he finally hired you. Anadarko a lot of managers in Canada and those listen. No this like six or seven of them. Were totally against hiring me. They were like there's no way he's going to stay. He's GONNA leave quickly. He's going to rock the boat and it was one. Vp that I had met who loved me? And he's like don't really carry your opinion. We're hiring them. And the man. I finally after seven years before I moved down to the US. I was able to convince some of the managers who'd been sort of not in the W. Camp that that probably it was a good decision and and I'm so fortunate for all of the things that Anadarko gave me in the first ten years of my career. Both the good and the bad and resigning was hard. And I'm sure it was for you so it would have been about two thousand sixteen that you resign. So what what did you go and do and walk me through that resignation moment decision? I've business decision ever made by General Fifteen twenty sixteen. I'd been praying about this for two years and in about October September October of so startling reminders. A second so.
"mr pickens" Discussed on WDRC
"I didn't have to agree with everything that T. Boone Pickens did in his life to really admire what the man managed to accomplish making billions of dollars and actually going for some very innovative changes in America and in the energy supply system we have in this country what I didn't realize was the story of his final fight in a courtroom at the age of nearly ninety and when he walked into that courtroom T. Boone Pickens hard core rock ribbed Republican and with him his attorney Krista costing Yetta who is the author of the forthcoming book the last trial T. Boone Pickens young single practitioner attorney and registered Democrat miss constantly had a welcome to the program how are you I'm fine thank you for having me you may you must've made quite a pair as you walked into that courtroom in Pecos I mean it was it was something that you know of course he was like a rock star and everybody in that oil town were and you know so impressed by his presence and I will tell you he sat through every day of that five week trial at nearly ninety years old so it was it was quite a story I'll tell you that I want you to describe how that went and why he ended up in that courtroom and what the fight was about because that's interesting as well but tell me this you were out on your own I mean a lot of attorneys a spire to come out a law school they go to work as a prosecutor they may go to work for a big firm and hope to climb the ladder and become partner but you decided to hang out your own shingle what was that all about well so it did that I did spend almost twenty two years as partner in huge law firms and so Mister Pickens was a client of mine when I was at those law firms and I kind of got disillusioned with the law and decided I'd take a hiatus and after a couple years of doing a gig as a P. R. and professional I thought you know what I miss being a trial lawyer so I decided to open my own firm at that point in time and that's when his general counsel I kept up with called me and said Hey we may have this small contract matter that we'd like you to take a look at and as it turned out that contract matter turned out to be a billion dollar oil deal there wasn't a small matter at all how in the world is a guy who has that experience and has that many successes behind him end up in a situation where he says he's part of a big deal but other people are saying no and we're going to cut you out of it because that's essentially what it was is and it it is so it was an oil deal in so these oil deals they get built out over time you know the the the people who are pitching the deal I think they may see something in an area that's not been developed before so it's a at you know wildcat play into the sign up investors and they say okay we're gonna quit look and try to lease up a great joy we're going to drill a few well to see if we can prove that this concept and so the whole deal is based on and they keep telling the investors Hey we got this new acquisition and do you want to be in on the new acquisition and you got to pay your fair share and it requires keeping up with really who's supposed to be balloted is the word for what and at some point in time they said Pickens said he wanted out of the deal but they didn't buy him out of the deal and he thought he was still in it and they disagreed and that's why we spent five weeks in front of a jury busy I've only been in court a couple of times never for criminal because only a couple of times I kind of got dragged in as a as a minor player on the outside of some things but but in his case I would think when you say he said he wanted to be out but nobody does any of this kind of stuff without a whole lot of paper work do they I mean you don't just Hey are you in or out like people are thrown in to buy a gift for the boss and everybody pitches in five dollars you you have to have paperwork and cheques are signed in and deals are made how how did this ever get lost that way well and that's exactly the point and that was a huge team of ours the trial is you don't do a billion dollar deal based on you know an oral statement that I don't think I want to participate anymore you know one of our theme the trial was all of our most important affairs we require a signed writing and this was the same kind of deal but it made for a very very interesting five weeks in front of the jury about what happened when it was a real who done it and he said it now how much how much was at stake it was a dollar number that that you could say this at potentially this much money was at stake well when I was headed to trial I claimed in our lawsuit papers that his share of the deal was worth a billion dollars and that was based on what we thought the wells we're going to produce in net profits because there were hundreds and hundreds of wells eventually drilled it what those wells would be producing over time and so we thought that that's what the case is worth now the judge paired us back quite a bit ruling against us on you know various issues like we didn't file some of the lawsuit claims soon enough and we ended up getting a hundred and forty six million dollar verdict at the end of the day but it was a big dispute it was a lot like a lot of expert testimony to talk about why it was such a big deal I'm talking to Krista cost Indiana who's author of the forthcoming book you're gonna have to wait for the last trial of T. Boone Pickens so is it possible to win a hundred and forty six million dollars and walk out of the courthouse disappointed or or his still come out saying well you know we only won a sixth of what we wanted but is still almost a hundred and a half yeah well we were thrilled about the I'll just say that you know after five weeks of fighting for it we were thrilled to have it now Matthew can you tell me about this how did Mr Pickens pick you did he just say there's this associate who used to work for the firm that I always turn to but I'm gonna turn to her now because I trust this young lady well so his his general counsel and again I had maintained a professional relationship over about a decade and so when I started my own firm you know he reached out to me and asked me to take a look at it and I had worn a plaintiff side decision for for Pickens before and so when when we got acquainted again you know he and I really became fast friends and this trial story is as much about that and that is about any other aspect of you know the oil patch dealings or you know the jury trials are you know it really became a close friendship and I think that comes through in the book ms constant yet I I'm a local talk out of school I told my blisters all the time I'm not an attorney but he didn't have to physically sit in that courtroom did he did not you know I've I've represented a lot of important people in my time and most people of his stature would come in and they listened open argument the opening arguments they would perhaps you know testify if their testimony was that issue that might show up again for closing arguments or they might just leave it all to their to their staff he was invested he had you know his heart and mind believes that she deserved to win and he was going to see it through and that some of the incredible story about this book now ms constant yet is he the client kind of client who sat there and it would be writing you know this or leaning over to whisper something in your you know when when things would come up or is he the kind of player he just sat there cool as a cucumber just saying I'm here but but I'm not going to try and I'm not gonna try back C. drive he always had an opinion about everything and you know if the thing was that she had great instincts T. Boone was a master communicator so when it came time to explain his side of the story to the jury you know he he he knew exactly what he wanted to say it now as a trial lawyer I always want to be able to practice that narrative and make sure that I in the witness know how we're going to work together to get the whole story out he didn't like practicing because he thought he knew exactly what he wanted to say and that's some of the drama in the story and that's another of our what should I call and and bad in the in the book it but it makes for it makes furthered the drama that it actually was no that's great and I look at the some stories are best told when they're fresh and you haven't told them six more times and I can understand your instinct to say let's sit down and go over your testimony and see how you're exactly going to say it and then maybe you can suggest did you even suggest what you should wear to court he knew that was the great thing he did have the good instinct for for you know how he should dress and how he should act but I will tell you it's a great little story in the book about how he had this trick he would be with an empty water bottle and I don't want.