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Fresh update on "moscow" discussed on Morning Edition
"Out of the center of the capital Minsk. Authorities deny a report that one person was killed, but say 50 protesters and 39 policemen had been injured and about 3000 people arrested nationwide. The main opposition candidates can Oska condemned the police violence and said the election have been rigged. Resident, Lukashenko compared the protesters to sheep who are controlled by their foreign puppet masters. Lucien Kim. NPR NEWS Moscow An international conference held virtually has raised nearly $300 million for Lebanon. It's to help rebuild Beirut after last week's catastrophic explosion killed at least 158 people and injured at least 6000 others. This is NPR. Mauritius is struggling to contain an oil spill from a Japanese owned ship that ran aground off the island last month. The island's prime minister has appealed for international. It's instance, reports France has responded by dispatching aircraft and technical advisors to the island. Meanwhile, thousands of volunteers are waking to contain the oil spill. The oil is leaking into a protected marine park, boasting unspoiled coral reefs, mangrove forest and endangered species. About 8000 turns off the estimated 4000 tons the ship was carrying have already leaked into the sea, though some have been airlifted to the show. Rough seas and strong winds hinder efforts to pump the oil still on this ship, Greenpeace Africa says this people will have dire consequences. For Mauritius economy, food security and held for NPR news. I am is a spokesman for Afghanistan's president says he'll take action to free about 400 Taliban prisoners to help start peace talks between the militant group and the Afghan government. Move comes after the Afghan government held a huge national assembly with citizens to discuss the issue. Ah Hong Kong media mogul and leading critic of China's Communist Party, has been arrested. Jimmy lies accused of colluding with foreign powers lies arrest comes after China passed the national security law aimed at silencing dissent in Hong Kong. Korova Coleman NPR news Support for NPR comes from NPR stations. Other contributors include Hub Spot whose enterprise C R. M platform is designed to help marketing sales and customer service teams generate leads gross sales and innovate the customer experience more at hub.
Russia, China and Iran seeking to influence US ahead of elections, top intelligence official says
"Better question Might be. WHO doesn't Russia is engaged in a disinformation campaign targeting former Vice President Joe Biden a soon to be Democratic presidential nominee that word from the office of director of National Intelligence in a statement from its expert on election security at the same time, according to the statement, China and Iran are looking to spread disinformation. You heard President Trump's chances of re election providing though the Russia efforts seem to include help with spreading stories about Hunter Biden the approach of Moscow, Ukrainian officials The Senate Government Affairs Committee, led by Ron Johnson, and specifically launched an investigation into the Biden's in Ukraine. But Costantini Washington the Federal Reserve says
Fresh update on "moscow" discussed on Bill Cunningham
"Well in the book fall out that that I just finished writing with same burner we we traced the origins of the Russia collusion narrative two, thousand nine and the failed Obama policy, and which they tried to reboot relations with Vladimir, Putin and most of the last thirty years before that we followed the Reagan doctrine, which is peace through strength, which is we're not going to give away freebies to our enemies. We're going to be strong, and eventually they will fall to our our wishes. We'll find a peaceful way to resolve things through strength. The Obama Biden couldn't team chose. An appeasement strategy, which is we're GONNA make Russia fall in love with us because we're going to give him lots of things we're going to give them billions of dollars of nuclear contracts making American electric customers and their utilities dependent on Russian uranium. For years to come, we're going to give them twenty percent of the uranium or under our ground known as the uranium one transaction. We're GONNA spend hundreds of millions of dollars helping them build a rival to our Silicon Valley called skokie Vo outside of Moscow which by the way, today has become a military espionage outpost spying on American technology. After a Vladimir Putin got everything he wanted out of. Obama. He pulled the carpet out from underneath him and in two thousand fourteen, he invaded Ukraine. Ukraine of course, leads to Joe Biden and taking over that portfolio and Hunter Biden swooping in and cashing in on the Iranian natural gas company called breeze. Man. By the time twenty, six Rolls Around Hillary Clinton has done a poll. It's a private, not the type that they put out to get press to try to measure her liabilities and of all the things that were controversies in her life Whitewater Benghazi, the email scandal, the Asia money raising scandal. None of them registered as the number one reason Americans wouldn't vote for him in two, thousand, sixteen, the number. One reason, the fall showed fifty, three percent of Americans said, they didn't like the fact that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton appear to have cashed in on the failed Russia policy. So she sets out in two thousand sixteen after getting that polling data to neutralize the issue Russia to scare Republicans off from using brushing against because her her big Achilles heel and that's what.
Belarus' leader of 26 years warns against election protests
"Says his security forces have arrested US citizens ahead of his country's presidential election Sunday, saying Belarus is facing hybrid warfare. NPR's Lucien Kim. Reports. Belarus has already detained 33 Russian nationalists accused of trying to stir up trouble before the vote. Belarussian President Alexander Lukashenko, running for a six term, met with security officials in the capital, Minsk. Somebody. People with American passports and Mary Toe American diplomats have been arrested, Lukashenko said. Last week. The Salish Clara if a native Belarussian, who works as a political consultant in Washington, was arrested during a visit home. He denies working for Lukashenko's opponents, many of whom are in jail. Belarussian opposition, which says Lukashenka will use mass vote rigging to hang on to power is already planning protests. Asian Kim NPR NEWS Moscow The
75 years after Hiroshima, they're still feeling its impact.
"This bomb has this frank for twenty thousand tons of TNT. Harnessing, the basic power of the universe. What I fifteen I am on August six, nine, hundred, forty, five, the US Air Force dropped the little boy uranium fission bomb on central hero. Shema. Making it the first city ever to be destroyed by a nuclear bomb. On August nine Nagy became the second when the bomb exploded around thirty percent of Hiroshima's population that were killed instantly many more died in the months and years to come. Now, the bombs brought to an end to world war two but the wool was horrified at the human cost. Russia has since become a byword for nuclear holocaust forever linked to the words never again. Now, this week marks the seventy fifth anniversary of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki joining me to reflect on the legacy of those events. Tashi. Tauch. She is assistant professor at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service and the author of political fallout, nuclear weapons testing, and the making of Global Environmental Crosses. Welcome. Tasha. Thanks for having me and Michael Gordon Professor of history at Princeton University and Co. it is a of a new book called the age of Russia. Welcome. Welcome. It's very good to be here. Now, Michael the fear of the nuclear age is the period after World War Two when the US dropped the bomb. The fee was that the nuclear weapons would become a common part of conventional warfare but in the seventy five years since he Russia and Nagasaki, there's not been a single bomb dropped in a conflict. Question is this because deterrence works or have we just been lucky I would say we've mostly been lucky It's quite rare that there are conflicts between nuclear-armed nations. The major example is the nineteen sixty, nine border conflict between the People's Republic of China and the Soviet Union. So there haven't been many occasions for things to escalate, and there's a strong incentive in those cases to de-escalate. There have however been very close near accidents whether missile just that needing on its own or people launching almost launching in fear of an attack and there. Have Been Plenty of conventional wars that could have escalated that way. So by and large, we've been lucky but we've been abetted by the fact that there has been an ambient taboo that has grown over the years against nuclear first use although that is rarely the policy of any nuclear power. Okay. Now from an Australian perspective, Tic- Japan was seen as an aggressor in the war, the war crimes but also as a victim because of the destruction wrought by the nuclear bombs have is the wool remit in Japan now aggressor and victim. Tarshi. Many pass through consider themselves as victims thinking that Japanese were misled by the government inter- Disastrous Wall Conquest. In this view here stands at the as the ultimate symbol of Japanese victim. But today is victim narrative faces two competing accounts. One is to recognize Japan's acts of wartime aggression, including tweeting massacres, forced labor, and sexual violence. If we see hero Shimmer from this perspective, it takes on a whole different meaning not. Not as a national tragedy, but rather as international event. killed not only the Japanese residents but also many colonial subjects and allied. POW's who are present in the city at the time of the Tom Bombing. The other interpretation that has also gained for Japan is to see the wartime conduct Japan as an act of self defense. This This lesion is narrative recaps here. As the ultimate proof of Western aggression. So fitting the predation of Japan's Joel Roles as. Aggressor and victim during the war will gain the upper hand in the future will depend on how sweet society around the world comes together and develops a shared understanding of the complex legacies or Corna reason on the war in the Asia Pacific region and back to the United States markle. There's a popular conception that Washington had to drop the bomb that it was the only way. To win the war, of course, the war in Europe come to an end in May of forty five. This is early August two, forty five is that true I mean what? What President Truman's options? So. This is a great question and it's one with a lot of confusion around it. Functionally. The only way the only government that had any power to end the war was the Japanese government which was in a position to surrender and the question was when would that happen would have happened later or earlier by summer nineteen, forty, five, it was already clear that the war was militarily lost. President Truman and the US government in general had basically fixed options of what they could do to try and encourage the Japanese government to take that move. There's only two that people usually talk about dropping the atomic bomb or invading the home islands of Japan. Both of those were on the table also having the Soviet Union inducing them to enter the wars of belligerent which happened on August eighth increasing the intensity of firebombing tightening the blockade of foodstuffs into the home islands. and modifying the terms of unconditional surrender to allow Japan to keep the emperor. The interesting thing is all six of those happen Truman pursued all sex and the war ended. It's unclear which ones were determinative. But the point is there wasn't like we had one option or nothing else. The US had plenty of options and exercised actually all of them. On the one level target for the bombs was obviously Japan on another level. Real target was the Soviet Union. How did the Kremlin of you? He Russia Mirror Negga? Second Markle. So. Really, the question here is a small set of people within the Kremlin stolen and his closest advisers and you that there was an atomic bomb project going on in the United States for years they've found that out from spies from Britain from spies in the United States, and they had their own uranium enrichment and bomb development program that was going on at I would say a medium scale What happens after the destruction of Hiroshima is I in absented himself for a few days he went into a depression and didn't. React to any of his advisors and then immediately massively escalated the Soviet development of their own atomic bomb. So they were both caught by surprise and not caught by surprise. It's true that the Americans didn't always think about the Soviet Union as a factor in any decision related to how the war was going to end but they also very strongly, we understood that the key issue was trying to get this the Japanese government to surrender faster because the faster they surrendered the less impact. The Soviet entry in the war would have to how the end game would play out in Asia, my guest, Michael Gordon, and Tashi Hitachi, and we're reflecting on the seventy fifth anniversary of Hiroshima. Tashi. One, hundred fifty thousand atomic bomb survivors still living in Japan. In fact, as a guest of Japan's Ministry of Foreign. Affairs this would have been in September twenty, sixteen I met one of one of the survivors now they're all in education and public law has plied an important part in shaping Japan's post-war Pacifism. Now, as generation dies out, is the role of pessimism in Japanese politics is that diminishing especially in the face of Rausing China Toshi? I don't think the passing of the atomic bomb survivors will diminish the strengths of pacifism in any short-term. The correctly memory of human magazine Japan has been fairly robust and the taken deep roots in popular culture. I can think of a good example that is Japanese animated wartime drama film released just four years ago in two thousand, sixteen cold in this corner of the world. This picture accounts of the wartime life in here she was a smash hit in the box office. Be, atomic bomb survivors will also active in passing down lessons from the world's first nuclear war to the next generation. The city's over here streaming nagy training. Many Japanese Ron Tears as storytellers who share the testimonies are waging victims and a second generation survivors are spearheading efforts for peace unjustice. Well, that brings me to today and really in the last that he is the end of the call was thirty years ago the US. And the Soviets on Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty non stop this was President Bush senior and Gorbachev in Russia in the inside at Union. Then just as it was collapsing now, both agree to significantly reduce their nuclear stockpiles and of course, the updated treaty between Moscow and Washington that expose I. Think it's February Knicks Jeez. So that's just a few days after the next president is warning Michael Do you think it will be resigned. I think that's entirely dependent on the results of the election. Joe. Biden has indicated that he would refine the treaty The trump administration has had many opportunities to re-sign the treaty, but they have not taken advantage of those opportunities yet. Russia's indicated that they're very interested in extending
Senate Holds Confirmation Hearing For Trump's New Pick For Ambassador To Ukraine
"Update now on two important diplomatic vacancies. One is the post of U. S ambassador to the Ukraine. The last woman who held that Senate confirmed job was a central figure in President Trump's impeachment. And now the president's pick for the job is facing some lingering question in his own confirmation hearing. NPR's Michelle Kelemen reports President Trump's ouster of the ambassador to Ukraine featured prominently in his impeachment trial. Marie Ivanovich face to smear campaign by Trump's private lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who had been pressing Ukraine to get dirt on Vice President Joe Biden. Senator Bob Menendez, the ranking Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, says that's still happening. Giuliani Esteban, Savory Ukrainian characters have not let up their efforts to use Ukraine to interfere in U. S politics. Others in the Senate seem intent on amplifying their efforts. Menendez wants the new nominee, retired Lieutenant general Keith Dayton, to avoid playing into this and avoid any meetings with Giuliani. Senator I'm not going to commit to that, because I believe that as an ambassador, I would have the obligation to meet with any U S citizen and hear them out. It was a home. Dayton has been a defense attache in Moscow, a security advisor for the U. S on the Israeli Palestinian conflict, and, in recent years has run the George Marshall European Center for Security Studies in Germany. He's well versed on Ukraine, but his answers frustrated both Menendez and another Democrat Chris Murphy. So at the end of the hearing, he did offer this reassurance. Ify is the U. S ambassador and key Have any indication that there is any kind of election interference going on using Ukraine as a azalea ever to do that? I would, of course, report that directly to this committee. I think you have a right to know that I think I have an obligation to report that to Dayton says his priorities in the country, if confirmed, would be to help Ukraine fight corruption and beef up Ukraine's Navy and Air force. Next door in Belarus. The U. S is reviving diplomatic relations in part because of Russia's aggression. In Ukraine. Career diplomat Julie Fisher has been tapped to run the U. S embassy in Minsk. Our relationship with Belarus languish for more than a decade. But after Russia's illegal seizure and occupation of Crimea, and it's manufactured war in Ukraine stone best region, we began to see signs of interest from the Belarussian sign. Belarus recently bought US crude oil to decrease its dependence on Russia and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo visited Minsk earlier this year. But the's warming ties will be tested by an election this Sunday, and Fisher face questions about that the first component to ensuring that we can continue to grow this relationship. Not see steps backward in the conduct of this presidential election. The long time ruler Alexander Lukashenko is facing a united opposition in the run up to this election, and his regime has been cracking down. There will be no international monitors, though Fisher says the U. S embassy will be watching the vote closely. What we are trying to get Johnny is basically to ensure that there is space to ensure their space for more than one voice. In this country. Lukashenko kicked out the less U. S ambassador to Belarus in 2008 after the US accused his government of human rights violations and tighten sanctions. Michelle Kelemen NPR NEWS Washington
Anti-Kremlin protests continue in Russia's far eastern city of Khabarovsk
"Thousands of people took to the streets again in Russia's. Russia's far, east and city of Khobar of yesterday protests against Moscow, and the Kremlin have now been going on for over three weeks. Joining me for more to mark. Gherman Russia analyst stunt senior associate fellow at the Royal United Services Institute Good Morning and welcome to the program Mark. Could we first recap what exactly has happened so far? The first protests were sparked by the arrest off a local politician weren't they? They were the local governor elected local governor Sergei for Guile, and this was on fifteen year old charges of involvement with some contract killing, which may or may not be true. He was set me involved in some questionable business. But the widespread assumption amongst the locals was that it was simply because the Kremlin was was peeved at him at the fact that he had stood against their candidate and then just simply rummaged around looking for suitable charges, and since then these protests have continued for, as you said, now, almost a month and it's really. So transmogrify from being about four, how to actually being about Moscow. About Putin and about the sense that in a way, the government in Moscow cares about the rest of Russia outside. It's ring road when it comes to taxing them rather than looking after them. Have those protests course most grow by surprise? Absolutely, an indeed one of the interesting signs of that is precisely that there has been such a clampdown on any references to the protests. In the official TV media, we've seen accounts in the newspapers and online sites, but very much from the televisions point of view, it's nothing and that's a classic sign off what what Moscow does when it doesn't know what to do. It basically tries to by itself, some breathing space, but the trouble is cost nowadays. Russians. Are Very Internet savvy and. And the news has gone out anyway, and at the moment I, think the Russians Russian government is essentially playing a waiting game. They don't really want to try and take on these thousand strong protests especially because the local law enforcement and security agencies frankly don't particularly infused to do so and therefore ain't now waiting hoping that it'll die down to the point when they can actually begin to crack down. Do you think that's going to to the protests? We'll just eventually die down. Well I think the honest answer is, yes. We saw the most recent protests are actually smaller than in previous ones and impact that was because it was rainy rainy day in such like. But because it's not as though, these can can go anywhere what the what, what are the real significance not that somehow this protest will, it will explode and expand. It's precisely what it shows about incipient protests potential within Russia because there's nothing particularly special about kebabs. He's not like he was unusually poor or badly hit by corona virus or whatever, and I think. Right. This is so worrying for the Kremlin, is that sense of fine we can ride out this one protest in this one city. But what does it say about the potential for more protests all across the country exactly disease dimension that. Putin rather strong grip on power buddies this. Really, the case everywhere in Russia also in more distant places such as city in the Far East? Well. This is interesting thing. It's that you might have protests the loyalty to the center. Until. Push comes to shove. We've seen as particularly in Russia east of the Urals for which there is classic. Russian proverb God is in Heaven Bizarre is far away where absolutely Moscow is a very distant force and we've seen it in the past where actually local authorities. Are often in cahoots with local security operators in their own corrupt deals and so forth. But also they feel the same kind of pressures and resentment as ordinary Russians. So I think one of the strengths of Putin's regime has always been that he's understood when not to push when to make concessions. But at the moment in a corona virus has eroded his personal support, the money is tight it's that much harder to make the kind of. Deals Shantou involve splashing the money around that. He has in the past. So it's an interesting question. I mean, yes, he's not gonNA be swept away by this. He's not disappear anytime soon, but the slow corrosion, the legitimacy of his regime is becoming all the more visible exactly, and let's remember this beauty can did now stay in power until two thousand and thirty six thanks to changes to Russia's constitution. Do you think he actually has to address this issue of erosion and do you think people are going to appreciate him for years to come? Well I mean who knows quite how history is going to take him. Frankly, I think probably quite harshly. He will have to address the question of legitimacy, but again I think the thing is that. Putting has been around longtime. He's been power twenty, two years I. Think if trump has exhausted his capacities to reinvent himself he's got these grand national projects that you meant to be about totally reconfiguring national interest structure and health and such like, and it's really quite telling that he's recently pushed back the timeframe for their accomplishment. He clearly has a very ambitious agenda. Agenda, but he doesn't seem to know either how to really accomplish it, and secondly how to afford it. So I think he's he's hoping at the moment that things just get better that do course the virus abates. The economy stabilizes and things will work out not sure how far holding your fingers. A crossing your fingers is really going to be a proper answer. The most go the Kremlin on Moscow seemed to be waiting that these protests were seeing in Cabbarov Squirrel, just gradually die away. But what if they doesn't what kind of a warning example this? Of Four four Moscow and UNFOR, Vladimir? Putin. We we have reached elections coming up rather soon. How can make sure that something like that doesn't happen in those cities in those regions as well? Well, here's the problem he can't because it's really about is going to catch nation of random factory in football was not particularly personally popular. It was more the just his arrest, which under other circumstances might well have. Have passed pretty much unnoticed. Just somehow catalyzed. They just general sense of being fed up. There was a coastal city. Now. Elsewhere, we have certain places I. Mean, for example, in in Novosibirsk in Siberia, there's sort of contested elections coming up where we actually have real opposition politics emerging. The government is going to hope that it considered squelch Shalit's, but didn't that it has to have these parliamentary elections however. Much the parliament itself is just a rubber stamp. Nonetheless, it has to have these elections and elections. Inevitably case it paces when situations are that, there will be discussions disagreements, it will generate or kind of precious. Again, what we're seeing something that means it's highly difficult to predict. That's irritating for an analyst like myself. You difficult to predict exactly what and where it's going to happen, but there is a prevailing sense in Moscow that. The country is entering some bumpy. Times? Would it be easier for peace in to lead his country. If it was simply smaller, it is understandable that Russians thousands of miles away from Moscow? Mayfield. They don't wants to be controlled by the capital, isn't it? Exactly. Eleven time zones away or whatever I mean the actually that sense that Moscow doesn't really care is really quite pervasive, but to be perfectly honest look I've traveled outside Moscow itself. Even within the Moscow region, you find these pockets of ticky rural poverty, where actually all the shiny new infrastructure, the bright lights, the hipster bars and things of Moscow seem alone wrong where way. So size does matter, but I think it's really not the key issue. It's about the extent to which this is a regime which is focused on Moscow and Petersburg, a handful of other major cities and really has developed them at the expense of the rest of the country. And just finally, Mark Looking at these protests and fierce Moscow and beauty may have. How can President Putin bring the nation together? Again is widely assumed that looking for enemies from the West has been one way for into boost his own popularity domestically. Do you expect that we may see some kind of new maneuvers from the president in the future if things get worse domestically. Well, there's this overwhelming assumption in the West that, yes, that he tries to distract attention this way we have to realize that with the exception of the two, thousand, fourteen annexation of Crimea. which was very, very unusual case. None of the various overseas adventures that Putin has engaged in Syria and so forth have been either driven by domestic considerations or frankly popular i. mean half the time. Actually the Russian regime lies to its own people to claim that it's at interventions abroad are much less than they really are. So I think what we're going to say is not some kind of adventure abroad, but we will. Will see a rising tone to this propaganda about the world is a hostile place and the Russia is beleaguered fortress. He doesn't make Putin popula. What it does do is it legitimises his Moose clamped down on the opposition because he can say, this is not a time to be divided because Russia's very future is at threat
Final days of hajj and Eid festival impacted by coronavirus
"The reduced number of pilgrims who performed the last rites of the Islamic hash in Mecca the building which drastically impacted by the new coronavirus small groups of pilgrims Moscow and physically distancing before one of the final rites of the hajj consulting with the second day of the need to build a global pandemic that's affected every aspect of this year's pilgrimage and celebrations the final right is a symbolic reenactment of Abraham's hajj when he's turned representing the temptation to disobey god the hash both physically and spiritually demanding intends to bring about greater humility and unity what of all Muslims the phone once in a lifetime I'm Charles
Protests Over The Arrest Of A Popular Governor Continue For 3rd Week In Russia
"As protests over racial injustice continue to rage across the U. S. In Russia. Thousands of people are also taking to the streets for the 20th day in a row people in the far east of the country march to protest the arrest of a popular governor. Their anger was first directed at government bureaucrats in Moscow, 4000 miles away. away. But But now now That That anger anger is is increasingly increasingly directed directed at at President President Vladimir Vladimir Putin Putin himself. himself. That is the sound people protesting today, shouting Putin resigned. NPR's Lucy in Kim joins us now from Moscow. Hey, Lucy, In Hey! So who is this governor? I mean, why did his arrest spark these protests? His name is Sergei. For Gall. He's a local businessman who amazingly beat the pro Kremlin candidate in a landslide for governor of Khabarovsk region two years ago. And then earlier this month for goal was arrested by masked federal agents and taken to a Moscow prison where he's now in pretrial detention on charges of ordering contract killings 15 years ago. He says he's innocent. And ah lot of people in Khabarovsk have taken to the streets to support him. So if this governor is being charged with crimes for involvement in contract killings, why are people they're so upset? Well, People are upset because they feel Moscow has overruled their democratic choice, and they're also angry that he will stand trial there and not in Khabarovsk, Khabarovsk region, borders Thie, Pacific Ocean and China. And people there feel forgotten and neglected by the federal government in Moscow, I spoke with one protester. His name is Vitaly Blagojevich. And before the Corona virus pandemic he taught Russian at a Chinese university. I've been expecting that maybe the protease will go down. But every day when you come you our experience in the the Prudie's is going up every day. I'm happy. He says He didn't even vote. For for gall, but he's angry with the way that he's being treated. So do you think authorities are going to be cracking down on these protests? I mean, how long can they continue? The Kremlin finds itself in a tough position there so many protesters that they can't use force and throw everybody in jail. And if the Kremlin ignores a protest, they run the risk of other regions getting the same idea. I asked Nina Khrushcheva, Russia expert at the new school in New York, how dangerous she thinks the protests are they don't really have a leader in those protests are probably the most dangerous because if the cause is Moscow has too much power. They can really spread like wildfire, especially there in Siberia in the Far East. The protester I spoke to Vitaliy Blagojevich said he was really angry that some protesters were being called into the police. And he said, that's what brought him out every night this week. Saturday's have seen the biggest protests in Khabarovsk. Everybody will be watching what happens this weekend.
Former U.S. Marine sentenced to 9 years in Russian prison for assaulting police officer
"Former U. S. Marine has been jailed in Russia amid concerns that the Americans may have been targeted as political hostages. ABC is Moscow reporter Patrick Drivel has more in Moscow court sentenced 29 year old Trevor Reid to nine years in a Russian prison. US officials and reads family have condemned the verdict, saying the charges he assaulted police officers are fabricated. The U. S ambassador to Moscow John Sullivan, afterwards called reads, jailing absurd
Coronavirus relief bill negotiations continue as benefits set to expire
"Negotiations continue in Washington over the next pandemic relief bill, there appear to be not just major differences between Democrats and Republicans, but also disunity in the Republican Party on their proposal. Meanwhile, emergency unemployment benefits expire on Friday, Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland joins us now, Senator Welcome, Jeremy. Good to be with you. Well, before we get to the pandemic relief. I gotta ask you about some big news this morning. The president says he plans to withdraw nearly 12,000 troops from Germany. A move that our allies are concerned will weaken NATO. Trump has accused Germany of not spending enough on shared defense. What's your reaction to that? This is a terrible move. It undermines the credibility of the NATO alliance. It calls into question our commitment to our NATO allies. This is exactly the thing that will cause Vladimir Putin to pop champagne or vodka bottles in Moscow, and it's the exact wrong direction to go. Do you have any sense of why the president is doing it? Well, he is said from the beginning that he questions NATO and the utility of the Alliance and Sadly, we're now seeing that sentiment put into action. Some of his supporters keep trying to say Well, he didn't really mean it. He really does support NATO. But now we're seeing actions that indicate that, hey, is not a strong support of the alliance, and he is taking actions that Essentially bring smiles to the faces of our adversaries on and great here to our allies. Let me ask you about the relief bill. How much are you willing to compromise in other Democrats willing to compromise with Republicans to get something passed? Before some of these benefits run out. One of the critical issues is whether there should be an extra $600 of weekly unemployment benefits, which is what Democrats want or Republicans have been proposing to $100. Well, the loss of $400 per week for struggling families is going to be devastating. I mean, their bills have not stopped their rent payments have not stopped. Their mortgage payments are Not on hold, so we need to maintain a large level of support. Are we willing to sit down and talk with our Republican colleagues about this? Of course, But We've been waiting two months in two weeks now since the House passed its bill on now we get this proposal from Republicans that's totally inadequate does not extend the eviction moratorium has not a penny for state and local government. Does not create additional funds for the nutrition programs s O. This is totally inadequate to the needs that are out there in the country. Do you need all those things in a bill in order to support it? Well, we need the basic elements of a proposal of a response that meets the needs of the people who are hurting most around the country and we need to Address both the health aspect and make sure that we have adequate testing, which the Republican bill does not provide for because they don't have a mechanism to increase the supply. And we need a robot safety net for people who were Hurting through no fault of their own, and the Republican bill provides. Neither
Russian Intelligence Agencies Push Disinformation on Coronavirus Pandemic
"U. S officials say Russian intelligence officers air spreading disinformation about the pandemic through English language websites. Two Russians and military intelligence have been identified as responsible. President. Trump admitted today He's spoken with Russia's Vladimir Putin, but did not bring up the reports that Moscow offered Taliban bodies for attacks on Americans in Afghanistan.
Trump says he never discussed alleged Russian bounties in calls with Putin
"Trump admitted today He's spoken with Russia's Vladimir Putin, but did not bring up the reports that Moscow offered Taliban bounties for attacks on Americans in Afghanistan.
Trump says he didn't bring up bounties against US troops in recent call with Putin
"Trump's acknowledged he's been in touch with Russia's leader, but is not brought up the reports that Moscow may have had a hand in trying to spark Taliban attacks on Americans in Afghanistan. The president says he didn't bring the matter to Vladimir Putin's attention because he simply doesn't believe that Russia offered bounties. If it were true, I'd be very angry about it. President spokesman Man has sided dissenting views within the intelligence community, suggesting that many analysts believe the reporting is true. When asked by Axios why he didn't press the matter with Putin. Mr. Trump pointed to the losses the Soviets suffered in Afghanistan in the 19 eighties. Well, we saw a light weapons when they were fighting Russia to Stephen Portnoy. CBS NEWS Washington In
Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.
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"Have a very special guests with us this week that we're both very excited to talk with Jason. Connell from sucker punch. Thank you so much for joining US A. Awesome ear. Very happy to have you of course to go super in depth on Kgo Suma, so for those who are watching end jumping in. Be warned there will be some spoiler fil talking here if you haven't played through the game if you haven't. Checked out everything you want to in the game beforehand. Please do that first and then come back. There's a lot to dive into. We're going to be jumping into as much as we can. Of course if you want spoiler free impressions. We did record episode that a little earlier. Even can go check that out, but. There's so much that we can jump into this game I off. Jason I. Just want to say congratulations for recording this on the day. The game is starting to roll out on launch. Worldwide is already available in some territories as where speaking so congratulations to you on the team on that It's very exciting for to finally be out there as a fan of it and I'm sure it must be exciting for the team. Yes, it's a super exciting to have it out. There cited everybody host their photo mode favorites sin. Just enjoy the Games. I feel like an Brian I think this is true for both you and me. We could probably spend the next forty minutes talking exclusively about photo mode. Yeah, no I. Just get into that very quickly. What you've created, my favorite voted in video game history, but also. You might notice you. Create one of the most not-so-subtle advertising tools. That is perfect for this game. Because every time I seen pictures of it I WANNA? Play it again, and I think for a lot of people who were just sort of like on the outside, looking in a video games in general like people who aren't just totally head down on stuff all the time. They're like wait what that's! That's a video game. Where do I play I play it? They're going to get that so Yeah, that's a very very smart. If you guys it's absolutely stunning game. A cool. Photo of his crazy because we were one of the first, you know infamous second son was one of the first. At least I know of modern games that have put like a like a photo mode in in that game. It was just like this cool idea to show off all the cool particles and lighting. That game was a while known for. But it was wasn't crafted as a personality around. It was the cool photo mode, and then over time over the last few years. You have these games that out and Spiderman my favorite of version of this where they like adds the flavor of their game to its photos like tied to the personality of that gain. On, the building tops, doing like little cell fees and Doing it with a phone. That was awesome made it. You need to spiderman so when we were like. Hey, what are we gonNA do for voter mood? To? Whatever the ghost photo mode. One, it's gotta be way better than our first one because. Our, follow up one and two. It's gotta be semantically. You know connected to the game, so we're like. Well motion in Wind I. Haven't we like? Make it less about a static image. You can do that, too, but have be about moving frame that I think is so beautiful about our game kind of spun out from there. I didn't think it was odd that you give the main character, a Selfie, stick and the iphone. His drone that goes along with. Little you know little out of place, but I thought butyl. Oh God you know it's been incredible thing to play around with, and you can do what Brian said. Every time I see more of it. It's one of those things where I've been playing every night. Still in, it's like Oh, no, I need to go jump back in the middle of the day. Because like Oh. That's a great spot I never thought. I could take a photo of I've been a particularly obsessed with going to bamboo strike locations and trying to get all the great photos. I cannot have those spot often. You know like perfectly placed at an edge or something. I sort of wondering. Because obviously this was built more with like the photo mode in mind as you development went on, because it's become so much bigger, what was world creation influenced at all by the photo mode, or were there any aspects of designing this game that were influenced by it because it is more like prevately used feature these days I guess than back when second came out. You know. A little secret you know we. We always knew we'd have a photo modem. We knew that this ambitious version of like I. said a second ago better and more dramatically connected. Owning, really work on it until pretty late, so you know we were so. Dedicated to the stories in crafting the world, so when it came to the beauty of the world. That add add everything that's in the game. I would have to imagine that that had the most iterating over anything, because it's one of the first things you do before you have the whole story articulated and put into the game. Certainly don't have cut scenes. You know it's like you're laying out terrain and at that like how does the island look and then it gets into the direction the feeling Cutting, trees down growing trees, making procedural tools like the world is the by far the most iterative on thing now. There was a point where we're like. This is how we make our game. Look good clearings. Big giant swath of like in forests, you know that you can see for miles. Off using color as like landmarks again, the Golden Forest, or read flower fields, and then, and then a you know, certainly that sort of made its way into some of our features of a photo, but the the world designed stuff. took the lead on on end photo mode. Okay, now that we've created this amazing awesome place. How do we utilize the photo mode in like critical photo that will. Take advantage of how great our team at did at creating a beautiful world. I think one of my favorite things about this game is the sort of balanced that it's constantly striking Between being sort of completely serene, and then the music swells up and swords or out, and they're slashing against each other. How hard was it to sort of get that that tone down because I could see. You know I think in in lesser hands I could be a very kind of dangerous. Push and pull, but I feel like you totally nailed that and I think that that's like some people when they look at an open world game want like nonstop jam-packed activities in in your team made the decision to pull back and let things breath every now and then How did all that come together? Well you know for me. It's the first game that I was certainly a visual director on, and so I I would I you learn something about yourself with everything you create, and for me I personally learned that I don't have a natural tendency to like create incredible. Violence, I just wasn't that was uneven. Favor Games, bloodborne like as absolutely my favorite game. Guide. You're on this show. This is gonNA be worthwhile and. About it anytime. But no, seriously like. That's my favorite game, but. When we were crafting the world would I navigated towards with Joanna. Who's environment our leader? This did this amazing a blog post recently on playstation bar. was the beauty of it was taking taking a moment to breathe in, and then I realized that some of my favorite games that are not. Show the classes certainly embraced the idea of atmosphere in a sense of this and you know I donate Fox's is is resonates. Conversations resonated with him as well so then then the conversation shifted into. Okay well. We definitely have it. We have a summer game. So you know without saying anything else as you say Amer game, you know you're going to be hitting things with a four-foot razor blade so. You know violence is GonNa come so we certainly work on that stuff. allied and we wanted to be great and gritty, and the you know like you really WanNa feel like you have contact when you have contact but the other stuff doesn't come as natural, and you have to actually work on that stuff to balance it out, you really do, and so that means like the idea is about creating Haiku, which was actually named idea You know really. Or believe it was taking a moment to. Allow the beauty to take hold, and not what I think is cool about the ICU that I hope people enjoy about it is is that they're not tied till like progression like you're not. You're not like intrinsically forced to go, do it? You know there's a sense of you have to have the wonder and curiosity desire to do it. It's not like game telling you go do this to reach next level certainly, a lot of that is tied to corporation auto out to have to consider that, but it is. It is a work philosophy to try to get that balance of that contrast It takes years to get right for sure. I really enjoyed the Haiku sections actually He was like you said. It's sort of provided like this. This relaxing breeder and I did like the you were able to select different things who essentially collate them into one kind of fresh Haiku each time. Yeah I I mean I did every single side quests in every single objective in this game, but I I really enjoyed those wow awesome. The accuser, some of my favorite ones to the cinematography. You know it was at the moment to like. You know certainly we call them breathing. Moments definitely say that studio, but it was kind of a moment. Regis Art Geek out a little bit like the people who do the cameras. Mottaki, they can place it in to get the right motion and you know, and then the writers have an opportunity to like. Give you give you a couple of cool options. Just the beauty kinda comes through which is which in the end has been a very positive thing for the experience. Yeah, the balance that Brian was. Speaking to how you were sort of describing how that all came together? I could imagine. It's a very fine line between making sure it's peaceful and calm in certain areas, but. It's still engaging for the player because you could always run the risk of it. Being something that the player doesn't want to engage with, but as Brian. Saying like finding those high coups feels like this wonderful moment of solace after I have assassinated an entire Cam Mongols. And need to reflect on Jin's life, but also just the world I, it's this really great balanced that a I think as Brian was sort of saying you always get in games, but it feels so refreshing to hear. And it's a huge part of our philosophy. How we treat. Treat the game. Whether it's a Haiku great example, he could probably keep talking about, but you know the music style music how the music comes on not having things like combat while you're doing, shrine climbs or anywhere near them so that we can let those be their own experience, and so are these, are we? Everything wanted these features that are not mainline missions. Our conversation is like about how much combat how much non-combat and what is the purpose and what are the? What's the feeling for its existence like what what is the emotional goal for for these features and these are conversations? We have a lot and sometimes triple times over we try. We don't like it. We try something else. Well and for me, what's really interesting is sort of the place that all of these features and the things you go on, have sort of in the context of sucker punches past work, because it is I've been such a huge fan of both cooper franchise and infamous. Stir a year and. You know you get increasingly larger, but often more urban. City expenses that you're exploring a lot. In both of those franchises to certain extent here you're out in the wild. There are of course settlements and encampments and things like that, but there is a there's a lot of stretches where it can just be the world around you that you're exploring and I was sort of wondering on a world design level. How do you? How do you balance? Making all of these locations unique to explore as well and interesting. Even though you know a lot of can just be more, the environment's like what are the challenges that come with that? Yeah, so one of our. Our Contractors Jeff He. He talks a lot about content density, and what is the correct density and I really am really thankful that he brought that conversation up to light so much because It's such a you know Thinking about if you're currently doing something, you're going across the world and run into something. How much further would you have to ride your horse before you might find the next thing, or can you see the next thing from where you currently are? How how dense is it and I really enjoyed that conversation? Because it let us think about what's the right philosophy for for our game and it it certainly it allows us to you know if we want to in one place, you just completed something, and you should be able to generally speaking, look around and find one more thing on horizon or see the shrine trying on top of the mountain. It influence our world design alive, because when we first had the game built for the I you know I'd say maybe two years. It was a lot of forest. It was a ton of trees and it was cool, but you always were felt like you were in this like. Tunnel beautiful, but really deforestation. which does a couple things one is? It is very cool, but. It makes it really hard to know where you are without a compass or many map. Something telling you kind of giving you that extra information that your brain is just really needing. So what we did is we started opening up fields and I definitely some shadow, the classes photos out and was like fields as as reference vm. Because it just feels so epic when you're going through field, but but you know the criticism it could be that it's boring or something like that, and and really have to embrace a philosophy that it won't be boring because there's beautiful music. There's five things now that you can see what you want to do next because you're in a field, there's more clearings and it created a Great beauty in the game, but also more opportunity to engage with that density and I I. Really I think that that was one of the conversations that was ongoing throughout the project, but we landed in a really. I think unique spot for. When when when you? When your team was the helping this game, you obviously weren't anticipating a significant portion of the world's population to be stuck indoors for months on end, but At one I mean there were obviously there. Are you know a lot of sort of like entertainment? Things that have come out during quarantined. That didn't really. Fair as well due to their. SORT, of like the way they were delivered or their subject material something that, but this is a game that I really more than ever appreciated as a guy who's in a two bedroom apartment really appreciated huge open fields and. Mountains in like sprawling rivers and seas and stuff like that but I think one of my favorite things about the big open fields is that there's always something? Or there is like a lone tree. And you're just sort of naturally drawn towards it, and I found that like that sort of like beautiful use of negative space to be like so powerful. In terms of like never felt to me like there's nothing ahead of you. This is boring. It always felt to me like this. Is this is this is like a sort of triumphant use of minimalism and and charging towards something. To reveal that there's like one loan item in the distance was so much more engaging tomato like at a mini map that had a hundred time trials, but Hamas other stuff like I. Found Myself uncovering the dog on the entire map which. I was I was like basically riding around in spirals like in that movie alto like I was trying to. Five is in half the time I was on foot to. It was really wonderful game to explore so I. WanNa ask you about that the. The the sort of the way exploration on unfolds in this game is something I. Really Really Love and I think a lot of open world games are going to take note of following the wind and talking to people and following Fox's two locations rather than just you know overtly stating the player. This is where you're GonNa go, or you go to. The map in this big thing opens up. All that come together. What was the push and pull on that to sort of find the right way to keep players in the no, but without making like overwhelming them with information. Yeah I'll talk about kind of our studio kind of struggles, but I also kind of throw in my own, maybe personal philosophy, too. So I. I judge Games my favorite game, especially them really harshly by. How does it feel if you're? You're actually not doing anything on the sticks. I would if you're just sitting there. Just sitting in the world, you're standing in the world. You're on your horse in the world like is there. Is there a what's the feeling and some of my favorite games by just sitting there? There's like things that go through your mind. Like why do we? What are you anticipating? That are stuck on the story or like. Where's that next objective like you're just what's going through your mind? because. That's when you're not doing anything. That's what you're thinking of next like. You're just taking in the beauty looking around our game I hope that translates into that sense of exploration and sense of curiosity like if you do stop for a second yearly, you're not already on kind of a train of thought it is more. One of curiosity is one of like. Hey, what? What do I want to do next? Oh, there's something over there. There's something of their. Oh, I wonder band before, so they're having gone to could check it out and I. think that the more information you were to have on your screen compasses many maps. It kinda answers those questions before you even have time to ask the question. It's just like the dots right there. Let's go do the DOT. It doesn't matter what the DOT is. It's just there's thing let's go do it, and so that that to me is is a really important part of what I think. The Games, Tries to do in the world, and and certainly we did not have the wind when we started on this project at all. In fact, what the wind was which is has got this cool story I'll say quick is. on the first direction slides on the you know we did. A presentation is like one of the first presentation out the way look and feel and everything moves was was one of them like a wind. We're going to double triple quadruple down on win, and you know there's a lot of attack that has to go into that. He got Capes moving I gala hair moving. You gotta get trees and Bushes, and especially for procedurally generated now artistically procedurally generated world. That's really tough. Two years later. Something like that. That became true and you've standing I'm standing in this world and we had other elements we were helped. Augmenting are kind of navigation and get around the world and I'm just like holy crap. The wind is amazing. It actually works at that time. It always like went from East West or West. East or something I can't remember always just directional and it's just. It's really good. And then we started having conversations like how going to get more stuff off the screen to stay in the is like beautiful world more and more because it's just. It's really stunning even years ago. And a one point I had this idea like. The Wind. It sounds kind of crazy and Adrian is like our longtime worked on has been sucker punch. Long Time. They tried a little quick prototype with me. We had like fifteen people play at were removed all the you I just to hey. Can you just just try to follow it and just and it sounds crazy, but follow in if you can get to that hot spring or that on. And it worked like the first prototype fourteen out of the fifteen people were able to easily get there so cool. Yeah and I. I was like Oh. Yeah, we have to do this. Question. Like. This is something that is going to be unique to the game and then an analyzing. Say on them about the wind because I can do it all day, but is it had like the matic ties to the island in historical kind of. Poetic, Tian's to you know. The Mongols came in as typhoon sweeps them all out to see and. You know we name the sword the sky storm after that you know him being a storm, a metaphorical storm on the island for for the island, rooting for the island, and then it was like about nature, and then the animals came along, and I, you know it just felt like a bunch of like one of these critical pieces you don't know exists, and then you find it, and you're like that fifth straight there and does and then nearly. Oh, I, think we have a good. I can see the puzzle now so. Cool, it was cool journey. Having having that comes away. It all it feels so true to the world that the team has created in those moments. Because you know, I'm I'm a completion is player like if you give me a list of a thousand things to go collect if you give me, you know like an infamous. Charge to go collect I. Collect all of them, but there's something that I think does speak so much to this world and end you wanting to be invested in that. It is really by pulling everything. Out of the screen that you're looking at and just letting you look at the world you get more familiar with it, and you start to learn more about Oh. Yeah, I've taken that pass before. That leads to that pillar of honor or there's that cemetery over there as you start to. Trek across the land. It really gets you invest in the world in a way that I think just having a list or a neon sign to tell you where to go would. Deliver it in the same way. Yeah, that's great. That's so. That's the goal so I'm glad you had that experience. And I it's one of those things you know that the open world I think speaks so well to what the team really accomplish with this game, but one of the things I was curious about wasn't and I know. We talked about this a little bit, but released, but since we can. Talk to the island as whole, but what was the? I? Guess the poll the. The back and forth poll of wanting to make sure you stay true to the spirit of this real world location, and honor the history and the people that are but also create a world that at the end of the day would be fun to run around or write a horse around in as a game. Yeah and it's a great topic, and it's kind of been the the struggle for and I would say struggle in a creative sense. It's the creative. From from from once, we actually knew we were making Susha and we started doing all this research, and and you learn so much about the island. Like the fact that at that time it was likely to be like ninety five percent covered in dense forest. Which again I told you we tried. We tried very dense forest in. It's just hard to ride a fun horse through tree. Trees it's. Pretty tough. Also, it's incredibly hilly. We went there just like it's just hill after hill after mountain after Mount After Mountain, also challenging to create a interesting layouts in combat spaces in so. So, we worked with our team in Japan. We're like hey, this is how we were planning on You know being inspired by the shape of the islands. It looks very similar to the actual shape, but here's some kind of Ford as we'd like to take or game reasons you know, make the game more fun to to roam around. The landscapes in have layouts that have. Have Cool puzzle climbing challenges, or what have you were interesting missions, and and they were totally for it you know. And they gave us feedback of maybe when we went too far and then they also they know is in a fun way. They gave us feedback of win. Hey, you could go further with us, and so that was. It was a lot of ultimately. We're super inspired by history, and what happened and then the general beauty of greater. The greater nature of Japan as a whole, it's definitely hugely inspiring to us but we also make in a game and a PR and original story and a lot of things that. Have to Challenge it, but work in tandem with it, so it's it's definitely been a challenge I'm in a good way and we learn so much. And I will say the last thing I'll say on that. Is that within Joyon on the environment? Our team myself in the constitution. We talk a lot about like realism. And You know like A. Maybe painted realism, or maybe, how can we do it like a slightly stylized version of that? And and and you know this is not even if you've ever been to Seattle only did infamous. It wasn't really a stone by stone. Kind of recreation. Roads aren't lined up exactly. It's sort of like if you blur your eyes, you're like Oh. Yeah, that's definitely definitely Seattle like it rains. A lot of people drink coffee. PUNK ROCK and grunge music. It's You know the things that are there the spacing? Like the things you would expect, but it's not the like. Let's put a magnifying glass over, and let's get it like perfectly accurate and we take that same philosophy here. We want to feel like that. This is plausibly. Dass what it could feel like. That's what if we could do smell through it. That would we would try to. Feeling into music, we're going for a as a is a is a main heart. Smell will actually be unlocked on the playstation six. Thirty I. Have Rumor, we have an today since three. Hey listeners. We know you love gaming and have excellent taste, so we want to tell you about the official. The last of podcast in the show writer podcasters stand up comedian and huge fan of the. Host Christian Spicer we'll revisit the first game and talk with the people who created that critically acclaimed work hit. Also give you what you've all been waiting for. 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The the combat in this game is awesome, and that's coming from somebody who to be completely transparent. Wasn't crazy about it. At first 'cause my immediate reaction was. There's no lock on. Think what do you mean? There's no lock on like you can't. You can't have a certified again without lock on and as as I grew to. Appreciate. The sort of dynamic happenstance of a dashing between those four stances and. Fighting different types of enemies. In synchronicity while switching and switching back and forth using my sub moves and everything I was like. This is one of my favorite combat systems interview ever But what what? How did how did that decision? Come to not have have lock on? was that was at a debate internally in the studio? Because that's to me, that's one of those things that people just expect from a video game and I found myself not even thinking about it after a few hours in. I. It's definitely debate right like it's A. It was heavily debated and talked about how you know. From all corners of the CEO there was not some like. I mean because it's a it's a standard. There is a standard anytime. You go against the standard. You need to prove it out and. I'm glad we tried something different than you know. As person bloodborne like my favorite game, I like games that allow you to really kind of hone in and focus, and and control that since a control comes, comes with locking, but and you know, and certainly as a samurais sense of control is a huge fantasy so Yeah, man. We talked about it a ton Maybe when it comes to combat, I would say it's in the top three conversations that we had over the entire course of the project while. But I have to give massive. Shout out to you know. One of the studio heads. You know I've found Sucker Punch Christopher. Men he's he's behind the core design, a lot of the combat and he he works out of the code for it, and there's another Guy Ted. Who is awesome designer? And he liked those two brains man. They worked together, and they figured out a way to create something that is first of all feels like you're hitting the person when you do hit them like it's a tandem as animation, so it's not like a hit box based. It's like these. This animation links up to this one. Is I very newbie? Animation Brain. And it's not just like the slash through thing right, and so they feel like you're hitting the person it feels. A goal is a gritty feeling, but it's also incredibly fast paced at times. You know as you get like five or six people around you you can be, you could be like. Changes. In planning, and when you're going to do the smoke bomb, go around the building and do another. Jump down from the top, you know. It's just like a it. Almost like a the style of it is is better with how the walk on. That's kind of the thing that we found over time especially when she became pro at it. And locking on actually with slow down, maybe in some ways and a sense of control will be got out of it instead was things like standoffs in duels, obviously assassinating somebody having that jump on, somebody gives you that, too, but we decided to really push that those moments or mythic abilities I think are. Usually will help take out people pretty quickly. The mythic abilities are interesting because I I think i. I I'm really glad that this game never really went like supernatural despite having the Word Ghost, in the title. There's. There's other there's an alternate version of this game. Were you guys just want preserved and people are summoning dragons and stuff like that. I appreciate that a lot of the crazy stuff that you got away with felt grounded even like the fire sort is ridiculous, but there's like. Oh there's there's sort of like a scientific explanation. Yeah. And then when you start doing some really intense stuff that feels deliberately over the top like dude, get terrified and they starts crawling away like. Is Watching people just straight up running around. Disappear and stuff like that. It's crazy like this is a i. mean even when we pitches his game. This was another heavily debated. Topic is going to be fantasy based or not, and obviously nate and I felt really strongly as well as many other people that we should not make it fantasy base in like high fantasy base because. It really those first of all there's. Several of those games out there already, and they do a wonderful job and I love neo I love sector, Oh, these games are awesome and they lean on that a little bit more as their unique. You know and so. Good. It's smart of us not to do that, but the reason why we didn't do the reason we did was because we were definitely were focusing a little bit more on the Human Story certainly one of the world to feel plausibly real. And you know if you like, I'll take the example. You just threw out there like having people fall in there, but get scared. Scoot away, man if you could just like, pull out a fucking dragon every five minutes. Scares them like I feel like a real challenge to overcome like and so you have to be constrained. So that when we do pull out something that's really incredible or scary or something like that that it actually has wait to it, you know and. I one of the things I do love about our game in might be some of my favorite content, actually mythic missions because. They. A build up the idea that people were legends like they talk about people in their connection to the island. The lightning one is a great example where you know, they burn the black sand, the sands black, which always like wire, the sands black back answer black, and it just bill out as they build up this legend of people that may have come before you, which is Kinda cool because? because. You're kind of building your own legend. To maybe one day, people talk about mythic stories of the ghost You know that humans can do maybe slightly crazy incredible in your living, example of that and people tell tall tales. I think that's cool. I love win. Jin would go around to the stories and people would be like. There's ghosts in the woods and he's like. No, there's not. Watching watching the people run away after a battle, though my favorite things in the game because it's it teeters on like on on like. Comedy, you would find in like vintage Kung Fu movies where somebody would come and kick. A bunch of Bass and one guy would be like away. Runaway ended every single time was I would let him run like maybe like hundreds of feet pull out my arrow. Cruel Man I know you you put it there. You know you gotta sit there, don't. If you give Brian the high ground. He will let them run as far as he wants to. I what I do love going back to the mythic tells them. You know maybe people one day telling the story of the Ghost I. I'm always sort of a sucker for. Stories that are about storytelling to a certain extent, because I do think you get so much of the human nature that we all deal with on a day to day basis of why we tell stories and everything and I I love that that permeates so much of this game, and not just in the quest, but on the on the ques- structure as a whole in this game I think is really unique, but it works really well. Because as Brian was saying earlier, you can go to a house in. Someone's saying Oh. There are nearby. Please help me or someone one of my favorite stories early on one of the side missions I found was. A woman send you to get food from the bandit that stole it from her. And then you bring the food back and she's like. Oh, thanks! I finally have food down. You're like. Wait a second. That wasn't yours to begin with. I just killed all those guys because you can't, there's. There's this. Stark sadness to a lot of the stories that I think really works in this game and I was just curious on like a total storytelling. Horrible 'cause there are moments of levity. You know like everything with Kennedy I think is so great, but how do you you know balance? I think this is a land and a group of people who are under siege. They're under attack by the suppressive force. At the same time. They are living their lives. There's this humanity going on the island. Hugs, what are some of the struggles that come up and try to tell those stories? Yeah, well first of all. When you started telling me, which story were, I was like racking my brain like which? It was so many. I I know it's crazy and I'm gonNA. Play through a bunch probably that I've played through in a long time, I play retail, but. You know It's balanced because you don't want it to be this like we did not want our game to be this like heavy thing that was constantly hitting you over the head with a that was just not what we wanted for this particular game. Think anybody really goes from bad particularly. I think they're always in goal, but but in it's hard, though because invasion and you wanna see desperation, and you WanNa see like these people have struggles. And frankly you know we want to. You know it's not always like dude. Go kill things, and so you WanNa hear you know people having. Their kids, or this or that like our parents like I. Don't know you just want to hear something that sounds like these people are struggling a little bit. But you know the when it comes to the writing and those stories, most of the stories do most of them do exist to try and reflect at the world has been in invaded, invaded place and. For people that are like these allies, and you engage with those those will get a little bit more in depth than traveling of their story, and for these little small one off encounters. Just say look even even the hasn't class is affected greatly by this and hopefully feel a sense of remorse for them or sadness for them, maybe a sense of duty that why you're doing this stuff, but as for the tone of it. I genuinely like a somber tone in general, I think Sambre is is not dark. Sombre is not grotesque. Sambas is just like a like A. Light sadness to things and I felt like that light sadness in a world that is so incredibly. Beautiful is kind of a nice. Balance and I think we look at it now that way and to some extent. That's a really good way putting now that now that you say that. It makes perfect sense because. You have all these incredible like you know. There's Fox's in this you know. Like. Rainstorms the beautiful trees and yellow leaves, but then you go, do these side quests on. You're like Oh. Wow, that was. Your family died and you can save them and you're like damn. That hit me hard that one. Particularly, there was one side quest for like now I know, too. Hard that one's talents so hard and You know there that one people on on the team who? Created that one, and then like you know as we get through the Polish face like Alan, somebody went through and added a bunch of extra work to that one for animation, and like kneeling down, and you know I you know in from liking that mission to really like connecting with more, and this is a small thing right like this is not a. Two hour long you know big big mission. It's very straightforward and simple cement to just reflects the tone of the world, a little bit and Alan Dow was one of the ones that, even though it's a small moment in your entire through I think improved a lot of the last course of the project I'm glad it exists. That's awesome. Yeah, I I, don't even know if I necessarily have a question about it, but I'm just curious to hear more about the the construction of the the site quests when it comes to the side tails when it comes to those the supporting cast that you get because I do I do think one of my favorite things. Throughout sucker punches, history has been that there is of course he usually a pretty great main character, but also this really great supporting cast as well, and you know going back to sign infamous now with ghost. I loved finding out more about Yuna and lady Moscow and just everyone at the pace that you want to in the world. And that balance I guess my question is because I. do think that's some of my favorite story. Telling him the Games in the game comes from those lines. How do you balance having this stuff? Be Optional I guess if you if a player just wants to go through the main story, but also encouraged people to want to keep going back and revisit these stories in these characters. Yeah Yeah! It's a question you know we From I is long as I can remember. I think I, think earliest pitches of the game we talked about. How we really wanted to create sort of this. Anthology of short stories. know these little little side branches off the main trunk. You know that you could. You'RE GONNA. You'RE GONNA get invited to them on the main truck main story. You'RE GONNA. Get invited them and maybe even once or twice in an engaged with them, but it's up to you hopefully, engaging enough for that story relates to you. It's up to you to kind of go. Finish out the rest of that branch, and we do a lot of stuff like we try to reward you for doing these things but I find that those things are They're good and I'm super glad. Glad reward you in different ways for playing these, but I find that the beauty of those those allies missions. If you will Masako. Norio characters is that they're just they're. They're far more developed in terms of like there are like what they need out of the world in their stories are interesting, and and they all have a different perspective on you and life, and you know in an what I what I think is kind of cool about creating a world like this is that you have to be okay with having content that exists. You're not forced to play. And you have to embrace that you have to because that. That is what makes it joyful when you go on your own ambition to go through it. It's not that you were told to go. Do it was in the Golden Path? And there were versions of the game earlier that a lot of these characters stories were more interconnected to Go Path. Through play, testing and feedback in her own kind of iteration process. We ended up where they are. Which I think is the right spot. which is you introduce them and then? Over your curiosity, we can push them push. You can go enjoy them your own Yossi, and there. Some of them are five or six missions long. And I think that's the right model, but it takes some iteration to get to that that that's spot for us. Even having late in the game the I think it's two missions for Eureka that pop up after you've revisited home. Just was such a such a Gut Punch. In the midst of as Jin, story is starting to come, full circle meant to have this exploration both more into him, but also into her life It's it was like as you were saying I, it felt so much more rewarding because I, saw it out that story within the. Yeah I think that that's A. It's not an easy philosophy to hold you now. as a director or as a contributor designer artist, because it means that somebody is going to get a bunch of people, not GonNa, play your mission bench people are not going to see your artwork, and and it's really hard to like talk about that because I want everyone to who worked on this game at Sakkara Punch to just like the super proud of it and love every moment that they cred tributed, too, but that's one where it's like. Yeah, but your thing is optional, and I can really bad, but it. In these cases it is for the for a greater feeling that. The people that will engage with it will probably tear out will probably love or be maybe even their favor mission of the game, even not the golden path I gave might be their favorite moment in the game nest. Because you, you let them engage it at their own will in. That's A. that's a hard philosophy to to. kind of stomach, but I think it's I. think it's a really healthy one for the type of game that ghost is. It absolutely plays into who I I think. My favorite thing about the game. Is that Me In the act of playing the game, so has to the game halfway in a presents all of these options, but I have to go exploring too, and I feel encouraged and want to explore and of my favorite times playing have just been putting a dot on the map letting the wind guy. A thousand kilometers, and if I if something stops me, stop if it doesn't I just keep going until something else. Interest me awesome. It's a calming experience which I don't often say I think about games at the moment. That's exactly how I played, too I would just put a marker somewhere completely random very far from me and just go there and see what I ran into along the what along the way with stories popped up which new characters I would meet, that would show me points of interest and stuff like that. and I think that that loop was really smart in terms of having sort of random gangs of bad guys. Patrolling the land and you'd run into them, and they'd have somebody kidnapped, and you'd rescue that person and that person would tell you another place to go. It felt like you're constantly pulling on these little threads. and I loved that so much was did that did that all take awhile to come together? Like outside of the wind is sort of the way the. The optional stuff and the sort of like randomize character you know excursions and stuff all interconnect. How how was it bringing all that stuff together to create the flow that you guys ended up with? The I I you both sound like you've played it exactly the way that I would recommend somebody to play, which is like hey, you know every now and then just throw down and go that direction and see what you find, and and if you don't find some great than go to your Golden, Pastora that's awesome, but try it, and because it's. In this is true for even when we're doing play testing that we did find that that was some of the ways that people would enjoy the game the most which is awesome. will you're talking about that? Like the ecosystem imbalance of people who tell you where stuff is in? How many patrols are there that stuff I'll tell you? We tweak that probably. Maybe until weeks before gold I think. Exactly the number on no top ahead, but is very late. We tweak those numbers because. because the sense of owning the curiosity, and like not having everything told you. was so important to the global feeling of enjoying just like exploring throughout the world, and as soon as you're told, were too much. Stuff is or too many things around your map. It becomes a different problem like you're kind of you either you either go into. Let's just go through the checklist which. Is Fine I think if you found them on your own but can be exhausting for some people because they're like Oh God. There's a ton of stuff to do, or it's kind of a turn off because you already know what it is, and you don't think of anything else over there, but they're actually might be if you if you actually went look, so we actually ramped down the people that the amount of people that would tell you where things were quite a bit. It used to be far more. part of the emergent processes I've almost everybody who talked to tell you. Something is, and it would put a thing on your map and We found that to be Super Smart System, and I'm so glad that we have it, but we put it in a very specific way in a very specific amount of things on the map total. Total that it would ever tell you about so that you still had your cool moment of like i. don't see anything over here on this. I'm going to head that way and finds things along the way now balance. It's really it's really tricky. Because again it goes up to that thing. I was talking about early. Enough loss of being okay with things being skipped and. That if you don't want to be so much that you don't have any information, that would be bad too right so it it is takes time to to work out, but the team did that. No, no a healthy fund way but I think even when you like clear. Mongol, Camp and Clears up a little bit. You still get a question mark. It's not even like yours, a hotel or something like that. And it's sort of it to me. It fell It felt like A. SORT, of natural to the universe that you guys were setting your game in this is this is like a long time ago. There is those no yelp. There's no google. So it seemed natural that you'd find a random person on the street and be like Oh. Thank you so much. There's this awesome restaurants. You should go check it out. Right I really doug. That I played a ton of the game in Kerr. Asala Mode Oh cool and that was. It was really it was really difficult for me. 'cause you made such beautiful game central? And I think it's I think it's. Beautiful in a different way in Curacao mode. But there was just something so special about about like heading into conflict or a story be or coming into a new environment. or it's all black and white, and there's that film green crackling, and a I read that you guys even did some stuff with the music to make it feel almost like it was coming through old speakers or something like that. Yeah, how how how how did how did you develop that? I I know. That's like obviously. It's something that you're studios. Really proud of especially since you've got endorsement from the family. It was a that was A. That was a I. I probably will put that in my top list of my entire career as like being apart process because. I mean it's just. It's just why just kind of a wild thing that you don't go into making video games because you expect to go through that process one day, yeah. which is probably why it's cool is that it's different. You know, but. The. We knew that we WANNA. Do Black and white mode I mean I think i. I don't remember when we first talked about it, but it was definitely really early Redo black and white vote, but again it got kind of pushed towards the end of the project, and then once things started to. You know you can sit in the world and you could be like. Oh, my goddess stunning! It's really a beautiful I feel I. Do feel like I'm. There's moments of this I feel like movie. It's coming. It's coming together. And, then we're like okay well. We definitely have that mode. Let's are planning for it. And an I got version of it in that was a very early version of it with a sliding team and Like what do we call this thing? and You Owe Samurai cinema or classic. Why can Wyatt our traditional La just things? You know cool cool names. And member WHO's I may was Brian Studio head. I don't remember somebody was like. When we see if we can call it, Chris Allen Mode. And I thought that was brilliant and I was like. Yes, can we? What was that process so I reached out to. One of the people that I think he deserves a special shout at his name as a relay Katami. He's on our Japanese producer. He's a helped us since the very almost since the very beginning, and he helps coordinate all of our feedback through Japan, and said Hey, you hey, who's now a dear friend of mine. I was like. Is this possible. Could you look this up? And he and the Japanese team reached out to their to their state across our state and worked out You know. They wanted to see video so I. Put together a video, and then I redid it like three times because enough. People on time video, but I was like Austin. Even Brian Our leauge rendering Guy Jasmine. He was not good. No. Though I kinda Redid it a couple of times and then eventually Is this. Is it I? I looked at so many movies measured the black and white. You know in our game. You know as you both played it. Daytime Times. There's indoor's whether there's rain. There's fog and so like you have to look at movies that have all of these things you can't just be like. Here's a movie. Here's a sample. It's the black. Man Like you gotTa. Look at all these because they exist in our game and it's a filter that'd be going over all of these and so I finally got to the point where I was, I had good black levels. White levels has cool noise. We sent them a video and and It took a little bit of time back and forth, but eventually we're like asses cooling reach an agreement. They were cool with it so. Yeah it was a it was a coup processing showed up. Is Mode teams all shit? It's called. Is it was pretty cool goal process. It has a dream come true. It's so awesome on a historical level. Because obviously you're seeing the game through its you know from the reveal trailer to now there's clearly a love and Joe Majd to the cinema and the storytelling that come in the John Mara, before it, and so to have that encapsulated as a mood that you can jump into starting to such a great I. Think like touchtone full circle thing as a fan of genres well. Also I mean the. The audio! From from like A. A gigantic Blue Tang Fan. It's it sounded like like RISI's sampling. VHS, tapes of sword slashes, and like there were moments. Paint that game and I was like I expect like method man rapid right now because. If anyone was intended, but that sort of got me on a very very like neural level I was like Oh my God like this is. This is quietly the best. Wu Tang game ever made since. The fighting gave. The quote somewhere I feel. That's. But. Our audio director Brad he that's all him he was like. I have an idea that guy's a wizard, so that usually meant something cool and he. It was like we have this special thing that we developed internally at Sony that replicates old processes from like you know fifty sixty s something like that radios and TV's and and And and he he kind of took that filtered it and figured out the right 'cause he was like. If you do too much over, you know, we wanted people to play lengthy amount of times and if they wanted to the Chrysanthemum. View too much, and it becomes incredibly fatiguing. Like, not watching move hours possibly thirty hours. You know so. You got a nice balance between that and something that you can you know Listen to over and over again? I- legitimated Curacao Mode for Poly Twenty five thirty hours and I think that I like maybe fifty sixty into the game. So how yeah! That's incredible. Yeah, along along with that and to me. It was surreal to play an open world game almost entirely in black and white. That was just I've never done anything like that before and. It was such a cool. It was such a cool experience. One of the challenges with eggs I would add is like since it's black and white. There's there's missions that use color as guiding, and so there are. There are a few missions of. It really struggles with, but for the most part we redesigned icons on the map so that it would work with answer, so you're not just looking at two icons ones. This color ones that color and we just changed the icon Lopate, but but yeah it, it's it's generally speaking. You can play through most of the game with it, which is just crazy. Yeah I think there was one mission where they're like find. The purple flowers was like Oh! I was to right back on, so that was good. Leads to so many great visual moments, and as you were saying I know we're running short on time I. don't want believe the too much, but I, genuinely really loved, and as pointing to earlier the the soundtrack and the way both game uses it. It comes in from quiet to loud, but also how the score changes both from the combat setting to the open world setting you know. Moments I would say not settings, but. That Jackson position as well as even on the side, the remixes that were coming out sort of in the lead up to the Games launch. There's so much great musicality and artistry. Bear that I think really. Elevate, so much of what's going on there on visual rebel to a works so well in tandem. You know there is no single discipline that contributes more to the game. The music like a known this case we have to composers, a team of people that obviously help implemented like their artistry is like. White just level things up so much like a scene without music in a scene with music. There's a world of difference in generally speaking I know it's not one contributor. There's quite a few people that make it happen. Processing and implementation, but it's insane. What music can do in for this game? It's it's. It's one of the best parts of the Game I. Think is the the the artistry behind the music in the soulful fullness in is is really I listened to it a lot. I love and then we tokens the glitch mob. Which is just? RIDICULOUSLY COOL! Yeah, it's an awesome combination i. do think as you were saying. It elevates so many great moments, but really. A drills home like the emotional undercurrent of everything that's going on in the game. Unfortunately. We're pretty much out of time. I think Brandon I could keep talking there so much. We love and really enjoyed about the experience and are continuing to enjoy. Time in this world, so Jason Thank you so much for taking time. We really appreciate it. SUPERFUND and thank thank you to your studio for. bookending this entire console generation with my favorite games. I I don't know if that was ever the plan, but the way that
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"I'm here in Moscow we are just about three hours away from the opening of U. S. trading let's get you up to date on the news you need to know at this hour U. S. futures are mixed following yesterday's sell off which saw stocks closed at a three week low that drop came after federal chairman Jerome Powell warned about risks to the economy after the Commons treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin sought to reassure investors about the economy you're going to see this is going to be a pretty bad quarter but then we're going to recover and we're gonna have a sequence of better quarters in as the president said our expectations were going to kill this virus and next year will be back to having a great economy just like we had before and Mnuchin made the comments to fox news meanwhile we get another reading on the economy this morning the calmest forecast another two and a half million Americans filed for unemployment assistance last week in the wake of the coronavirus Bloomberg's Vinny del Jude ice reports Bloomberg economics as Google search data for unemployment benefits have been winding lower that could be a sign of things to come even so states process thirty three million claims for the prior seven weeks April unemployment meantime rose to fourteen point seven percent rivaling the Great Depression and looking ahead it could go even higher in the opinion of some top federal reserve officials doubt should explain birthday break really thank you shares of Cisco Systems up two and a half percent in early trading the company gave a sales forecast that was better than anticipated and we get the story from Bloomberg Charlie Pellett Cisco was helped by a boom in remote working online activity that is stoking demand for the company's network equipment it said Rev and you in the fiscal fourth quarter which ends in July will fall eight and a half to eleven and a half percent from a year earlier of the mid point that indicates revenue of about twelve billion dollars slightly more than analysts had expected spending on data centers servers and other equipment was increased to support millions of employees working from home over the internet Charlie pilot Bloomberg daybreak hi Charlie thank you the international energy agency sees the oil market improving the IEA says demand is a little stronger than expected meanwhile supply is been reined in by a brutal price crash world oil production is on track to the Klein this month to the lowest level in nine years and let's check nynex heard only all right now it's up about five percent this morning up a dollar twenty six at twenty six dollars fifty five cents a barrel and Brent is up four point two percent at thirty dollars forty one cents S. and P. futures are down three point two Dow futures down forty six the nasdaq futures up ten the dance in Germany's down one point eight percent ten year treasury of ten thirty seconds he'll point six one percent the euro one point oh seven nine six against the dollar the yen windows six point nine six straight ahead we have the latest world and national news this is Bloomberg thanks Karen at six thirty three on Wall Street let's get more on the local response to corona virus with Bloomberg's Michael Barr twenty Michael good morning David New York governor Andrew Cuomo said four of ten regions of the state are ready to reopen tomorrow at elective surgeries can resume in several counties the governor added the world north country to the list of regions that have met seven key metrics central New York has to meet one more metric while Cuomo says New York City is several steps away if you open too soon all right what is it what does that mean too soon too soon means your opening your increasing activity at a rate that the hospital system cannot handle and people are not taking the right precautions mayor bill de Blasio says New York took its first tentative step toward opening schools in September sending out about sixty two thousand offers the parents of four year olds for its all day pre kindergarten program New Jersey governor Phil Murphy says they are taking things slowly in his state in regards to reopen it we are making progress and we're beginning slowly but surely to open things up we open up state and county parks a couple weekends ago with good effect we announce today we're opening up nonessential construction nonessential curbside retail pickup drive throughs and drive in so slowly but surely we are beginning to get back on our feet but again we're not out of the woods yet those Monday through Friday commutes from Greenwich Connecticut to Wall Street may become a thing of the past Connecticut governor that Lamont told Bloomberg chief executives of some large companies of told him that telecommuting could help them save money by cutting office space by as much as thirty percent signalling what may be a national shift by businesses employees realize they can work just as well when they are at home president Donald Trump voiced frustration at Dr Anthony Fauci after he warned against re opening schools and businesses to quickly the president says it's not an acceptable answer what he wants to play all sides of.
"moscow" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Everywhere around us but they weren't really after us. They were after the Russians that were working with us. They were after the people in their country that were committing treason. Were betraying their country. Working Press and if they could get to those people they would execute them and they did that so much pressure and I definitely want to discuss that later in the show because there are some very specific examples of people that just sound like they either had a tolerance for stress. That was well beyond just not even in the solar system is the level of trust that the rest of have or they were wired completely differently and I wonder what you think about that. But this is nineteen seventy-six Moscow. And what through eighty five? What time period are we talking about here runs up to about eighty nine and I think in the book I think the first case we talk about was really our first case there? That was in sixty three. That was at the beginning when we were unable to basically manage an espionage case in in Moscow that one only lasted eighteen months and they found him and they arrested him and they execute him was only been coffee. That's so terrifying looking back. Eighty nine not that long ago it is but it isn't and I was born in one thousand nine hundred. I'm not even forty right now so to have a country that's like this in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine so to tell. -Tarian is crazy. I've been to North Korea a few times and I would imagine it's kind of similar. North Korea seems I can't imagine anything more controlled than North Korea. But maybe it's possible. I'm not sure North Korea's almost in a category of its own. I haven't been to North Korea so I can't really comment but I've read a number of books about it about how it operates about how they control their citizenry and I mean. We've all seen little peek set. What happens if step out of line including if you're an American student over there who pulls a poster off wall you know incomes home basically brain dead so they yeah they know how to keep the lid on and how to keep their people marching in line. What's interesting about this? I think a lot of people will be like. Oh America's not free either. I always get those emails after I do shows like this but I think what people don't understand is the reason that they were able to keep such a tight grouping of you at a tight embrace on you is because they don't have any back then they had no semblance of freedom. They could lockdown anything. They wanted people had no right so they could just absolutely flood the city with state resources and monitor everything and everyone and that type of thing is just not possible in a free society. Would you agree with that people who speak that way? Probably haven't travelled very widely. You almost need to go take a look at the other possibilities places that you could have been but you weren't places that you could be living today but you're not. You're living in the United States to really appreciate the freedoms that we have. You know I I never WanNa talk about politics. When I'm talking about this book but it ebbs and it flows there are people who would like to tighten up security. There are people who are much more relaxed about security but even when security is tight back here doesn't even begin to approach. What some of these foreign countries but their citizens through I watch documentaries all the time and I saw recently in Belarus and there's a group of students that do these plays that are kind of like. Hey we should have more freedom and look. They're locking down or internet and they get busted beat up by cops and thrown in jail and they go missing. It's really crazy to have a country like that in Eastern Europe in two thousand twenty. You know there was a rock band in In Russia will be. They called Pussy Riot. Yes she was on the show. Actually really yeah sorry. I didn't hear that I'd like to hear one of them. Talk about it but it was a great opportunity for the government to make a statement to remind their citizens that this is not allowed. This is what will happen faith through her in prison for years and they had her making uniforms and they were beating up and salting are she's toughest nails. You'd have to be to be in that position. She's just one of the toughest people that I know. She's a true. Her international notoriety is an artist is for a good reason. What's strange is you know you think. Oh who's GONNA commit treason against their own country? They must hate Russia. They must hate the United States. She actually loves Russia in hates Vladimir Putin so she's very specific about that. I said why do you still live in Russia? And she said I would die without it I would suffocate without it. I'm Russian Vladimir Putin and his cronies we have to get rid of so she is just not afraid of anyone obviously a lot of Russians have that same visceral attachment to their country. They love their motherland. It's hard to separate them from it. We've exfiltrated some people we've had defectors come out from Russia. They come to this country they see all these choices. They have in a drugstore. You have to choose from like forty kinds of toothpaste. They have trouble coping with that and a lot of them. Get very very morose and depressed and discovered that they would like to go back. That's what Russia now of course capitalist more or less I mean yes. There's a lot of cronies stuff going on there. And that's a whole that's a whole different show. We talked about some of that with bill browder before foot having that kind of environment in communism like Old School. Stalinism or Leninism. I guess it would be called. Well I don't know I'm not up on that. It's either North Korea's certainly Stalinist having that kind of society with no choice and no free commerce to miss that is kind of like an alien notion to those of us who grew up in the United States or the Western world at all. That's right you know the mark that Stalin left on that society carries on today. If you sit down with a Russian couple and you say that your family history in your country. What part of Russia were they from? How did that go? You almost always hear the stories about the purges you'll hear stories about arrests and murders where their widows were orphans. There were just these tragedies on a scale that we can't imagine stolen was just he was just so brutal isn't even a big enough word for what he did and he left a mark that continues today. There are people in Russia who can't proceed further in their careers because say their grandfather worked with the Bolsheviks or the white Russians there's a mark there's mark in their personnel files somewhere that says they can't be trusted they can't be promoted beyond a certain level and that's one of the things that drives that citizenry into our arms. They hate that part of Russia. They that piece of Russia and that is a catalyst for them to work with us. I have a friend who I grew up with and went to college with him and lived with his father. Has I think too. And he worked for Dupont and had a pretty darn good career guy with two chemistry. Phd's I said. Why did you leave Russia? And they said well. I wasn't allowed to have a job because I'm Jewish and they said we have to. Phd's what a waste of human capital and needs to know why they're doing how they're doing compared to countries that don't deal with that kind of thing exactly. Yeah so going back to the Moscow rules. I think it was at a CIA official that quoted in the book. That said it would be easier to run agent on Mars that Dick Helms one of one of our legendary chief CIA. That was his comment. And it was right on the mark. There's something like fifty thousand KGB agents in Moscow to counter the CIA and other foreign intelligence agencies just thinking about that. I read that I wrote that down and going over my notes this morning. I thought I think the town I grew up in which was not that small had forty thousand people in it now. It was next to other towns so it seemed larger for that reason but fifty thousand people. There's you'd need multiple high schools. That's the size of the University of Michigan campus including all staff and faculty all the students from all the different university campuses in the area. That's still more people you know that number came from Oleg Kalugin and only was KGB officer. He didn't defect quality lives in the United States now. He transplanted himself he became he became disenchanted with KGB and he went into politics in Russia he was in the parliament for awhile and then he decided he'd start a new life over here they had already taught him as a spy in the KGB. Perfect English I mean only came and just fit right in these board member of the international spy museum. Now he's a Russian representative there He was the one that gave me the number. I hadn't seen that number until I interviewed him. I interviewed Jack. Barsky also on this show. Who Have you heard of him at all? Yes yeah that kind of story to know that that's happening is absolutely crazy. Because when I look at the people who let's say defect which is the wrong word but the people that go and they move over to Russia. It's like Steven Seagal where we're just kind of like all right. See you later. Nobody's going to miss you. You know. It's not some high level parliamentarian who decides to go start living in Washington DC or Manhattan. Because they're sick of it. It's somebody who's kind of generally not stupor beloved type of person and has maybe a rough or strange passed in actually prefers authoritarians over normal societies. And that's I think speaks a lot. I'M NOT ANTI RUSSIA BY ANY MEANS. I think the police fascinating and I think the people are brilliant. Two Cultures Amazing foods amazing. I pretty much like everything about that. Other than some of these major sort of little tags on the reputation of the way that they treat people. It's hard to say that as an American given our track record but it it is different and I wonder what you think about that. Because it's definitely there were kind of not really in the same league when it comes to health society functions. In my opinion you know in the thirties and the forties. There were a lot of Americans who were interested in that experiment going on in Russia. They kind of bought into that idea of this capitalist state where you worked as hard as you needed to and and you will get everything that you needed to carry on. It was interesting. A lot of people went that way for ideological reasons. You meant communist right. Yeah I'm sorry. Yeah and then that tapered off entirely and the ideological flow shifted and the people that they would come to us were looking for our society our freedoms our openness our our ability to live a life unencumbered by all of the restrictions that you find Moscow now the embassy in the Soviet Union. They discovered later head microphones in all the rooms to price. The price ceilings but even in the foundation during construction. I always wondered about this. I thought how come if we're building a embassy that's obviously going to be used for intelligence and diplomacy in a country that might be hostile to the United States. How on Earth can we build that? Where there's no spy gear placed into the actual fabric of the building? And that obviously happened. You know what I'm talking to a public audience like it was yesterday and we get to this point if it comes up first thing I say. How many is there anybody? Here who's worked for State Department? Usually there is not because then I talk about State Department in not best terms the seat we were given originally an old building. It was an apartment building and the United States embassy was in that building for many many years. It was a fire hazard. It was the electricity. Didn't work everything was wrong with it and it was sprinkled with bugs of course then we decided that we needed a new embassy and the Russians decided that they needed a new embassy in DC. It's always reciprocal. Whatever we do at one an embassy we can do to the other. They move forward together so they started building their embassy in. Dc WE started building our new embassy in Russia but State Department brokered the whole deal and stay department for all the wonderful things that they do. Security is not nearly as high on their list is it is at CIA show for starters they gave the Russians the highest piece of ground in Washington. Dc and that's where they built their new embassy which is allowed them to intercept all kinds of microwave. Signals I mean from that kind of point of view. It's an ideal location. They gave us the lowest point in Moscow. It's almost down in a little bit of swamp so we started out on the wrong foot. State Department decided that there was no reason that the pieces of our building couldn't be pre assembled by Russian citizens the pre cast concrete. Rebar the big pieces that go into making. A high-rise building was all put together in Moscow whereas the Soviets in Washington DC insisted on bringing all their workers and no American touched anything not a brick when they built the Soviet.
"moscow" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"And I'm here in Moscow we are just about three hours away from the opening of U. S. trading let's get you up to date on the news you need to know at this hour U. S. futures are falling this morning following yesterday's big rally on Wall Street and bloomers John Tucker joins us with the latest good morning John good morning Karen after four percent surge in the S. and P. five hundred yesterday one thing is clear volatility reigns risk assets are still whip sawing with traders remain on edge amid a rise in virus cases around the world and has many governments extend quarantines and travel restrictions Matt Maley is with Miller tape back all right now we have no idea when the sensor distant and and that doesn't mean it's going to be a detail will horrible bear market or anything like a repeat of what we saw ten years ago but it does raise the rest of the market closed could fall further the S. and P. five hundred has rallied about six percent this week it's seven and a half percent below last month's all time high it doesn't P. futures down two percent this morning meantime the U. S. house of representatives approved a seven point eight billion dollar spending package and California declared a state of emergency buckle up John Tucker Bloomberg daybreak no kidding John thanks as cases in the U. S. rise coronaviruses stabilized in South Korea Bloomberg daybreak Asia anchor Brian Curtis has more from Hong Kong on the outbreaks key developments the infections in Asia appeared to have peaked as they gain pace in the west south Korea's testing ten thousand people a day and maintains a mortality rate of just half a percent California's emergency makes more resources available the state had its first to death on Wednesday elsewhere in Europe Italy says it'll close schools until March fifteenth as its deaths jumped by twenty eight and finally Hong Kong can affirms the first human to animal transmission but it's not believe that pets can themselves infect humans in on call Brian Curtis Bloomberg daybreak hi Brian thank you and we do have this headline crossing the Bloomberg HSBC said to have found a one corona virus case at its London research arm it has evacuated the research department and the floor has been deep cleaned and as we continue to watch the economic impacts of the outbreak the international air transport association is now warning it could cost airlines as much as a hundred thirteen billion dollars in lost revenue H. P. says it has rejected an unsolicited offered from Connecticut based Xerox and crude oils rising after delegates say OPEC ministers have agreed to cut output by one and a half million barrels a day though that is conditional on Russia agreeing to it checking prices now West Texas intermediate is up a quarter percent at forty six ninety one of barrel Brent is at fifty one dollars thirty two cents and S. and P. futures are down sixty five points this morning straight ahead we have the latest world and national news and this is Bloomberg all right Karen thank you six thirty three on Wall Street let's see what else is going on around the world now here's one Berks Michael Barr thank you very much name the New Jersey is now reporting its first case of the corona virus governor Phil Murphy in a statement says the man in his thirties is hospitalized in Bergen county after he tested positive for the virus Murphy says local and state health officials are retracing the man's whereabouts and contacts global cases from the corona virus outbreak topped ninety five thousand five hundred and the death toll rose to three thousand two hundred eighty five that includes the first death in Switzerland from the virus vice president Mike pence says all direct flights from all airports in South Korea and Italy and now being subject to multiple screenings before passengers board to come to the U. S. pence also says all state and university clinics can now test for the virus our objective ultimately and it quickly as possible is to have tests made through these commercial laboratories and commercial providers that your local doctor your your CVS your med check is able to have a corona virus test meanwhile Chinese president xi Jing brings a much anticipated state visit to Tokyo has been postponed because of the virus democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden is pledging to unify Americans as he prepares for a potentially long primary fight against rival Bernie Sanders Sanders says what they're doing together is unprecedented and it's threatening the country's conventional political machine that is an establishment which is working frantically fought to try to defeat us and there's often a campaign I think that has been having to deal with the kind of venom we're seeing from psalm in the corporate some supporters of Sanders are calling on Elizabeth born to drop out and endorse your fellow progressive Chief Justice John Roberts criticised comments made by senator Chuck Schumer is inappropriate and dangerous about justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh Roberts was responding to Schumer's remarks at a rally outside the court while the key abortion case was being argued inside long time democratic Texas state representative Harold Naughton isn't a surprise election battle against Houston city councilmember Jerry Davis after a mysterious third candidate received twenty one percent of the vote triggering a runoff button says the problem is no one seems to have met or even seen Natasha Ruiz we've never.
"moscow" Discussed on Photography Tips From the Top Floor
"He uses your next slice slice of slide from the top floor. Yeah in the middle of packing. I'm still here in Germany and I'M I. I talk to you about the checklist thing. I have used it. I have spent three hours yesterday to two hours yesterday. Maybe three hours today to get everything together and my checklist is working so well. I'm so relaxed. Just thought I'd let you know so. Yeah have everything Packed it's kind of heavy. That's because it's not. It's not overweight my luggage but kind of heavy because I'm bringing a few things for our participants that way something but yeah we'll see tomorrow is a is my flight to Moscow where we'll do before the Siberia Lake Baikal. We do a bit of an extension there a few days to see Moscow and visit some sites there which after several times and I even have the same guides that we used to have a few times ago Julia. She's a photographer. And she's taken us around and going to show us a few things and then we'll also explore some of the markets in Moscow. That's one thing I really love doing is to go to markets at the destinations because they are so not pretentious. Usually no postcards of them just regular people doing regular stuff. That's the kind of market. I'm looking for food market with just normal people so many great street opportunities there so that's one of the things that will do during the extension and then after that we'll take off from Moscow to Irkutsk in Siberia and. Yeah that's it for now. All right a bit of a change in pace. What you're hearing is the What's the name of the station? Scam come some o scared so this is Julia. She's our guide here in Moscow. And we're just doing a tour of the Moscow subway which is photographic lead just amazing. 'cause I think stalin-built this and it's sorry for the noise in the background Let's wait for the train to leave those Stalin build this because he just loved expensive architecture right not only for this reason in fact he needed the Mitterrand for transportation and for military purposes but he decorated it highly because he liked beautiful perfect she is so full of ornaments and mosaics and duty for light fixtures. And here's an extra. I think I'll stop now. I'll be back in a minute with something else. It's less noisy. I'm back motel. We finished our detour today in Moscow. Which is part of the two day extension of That we tacked onto the front of our Lake Baikal tour so I had Julia as our guide who is who has been our guide for a few other times. We've been here she's great. She knows everything. She knows what photographers like so. She's she took us to the right places of course including the the most important landmarks. Today's kind of the. Yeah let me call it the tourists today. But if you're here in Moscow you have to see the Red Square you have to see to Kremlin which by the way is the heart of Moscow it used to be only Moscow. The Kremlin if you don't have a if you don't know what to imagine the Kremlin is like a portrait. It's a it's a city inside. The city has a wall around. It used to be Moscow and then it started growing the outside. There are so many Kremlin. Here you'd be surprised so yeah we went in there. Of course the cathedrals in there there are several cathedrals in there and we just as you heard finished off the day with visiting some of the famous metro stations here. The Moscow metro is quite something. I mean it runs like clockwork and the trains Brady every two minutes. There's a train maybe less than two minutes. It's really Bang Bang Bang Bang. It's very super-efficient and We got around really quickly so if you come to Moscow. The Metro is the way to go. It gets almost everywhere and quick that are not expensive and tomorrow. We're going to take the metro and go to two markets. One is a food market and the other is It's hard to explain. It's souvenir market. But then it's right. Next to another Kremlin that is now kind of used as a place where people held weddings and photography. Point of view. Just wonderful and Then there's a flea market and so we'll be doing some street photography on the markets and have our lunch there and then after that back to the attell grab stuff head to the airport because tomorrow night we'll fly to Irkutsk in Siberia and we're at the next stop little night session ahead. I'm in the hotel lobby waiting for our driver. Because the he's not over yet we are going to Take the tripods out and find a few places. There was a couple of spots that have already been to that. I know that are really good for some long exposures with Some bigger buildings reflecting in the water of the Moskva River Then there's the crisis Sabre Cathedral which is kind of weird place but it looks really nice and at night It's really interesting with all the lights and everything around it so there will be some some good opportunities and yeah we'll just be out for like a couple of hours maybe To go to some of those spots and then yeah then the day is really over. The city of she said this station is example. Would just look so. It's the next day and We have finished our our main markets tour of the two markets again. It was super easy to get around with the Metro and Yes or recording. Why are there because we're just way too busy but It was fun to the second markets by the waste. Called is my loss key. Market is yeah. It was exactly as I wanted to be Last time I was there it was a bit smaller and this time there was so many sellers flea market everything you could imagine of course souvenirs but also just just the the the thing that I kind of expect from a flea market which is people bringing stuff from their homes and selling it there so you saw A really good insight into Russian life into what Russians consider. They don't need anymore. Want to sell everything you could imagine so that was really fun and we are pretty much on a way to the airport and we will take off later tonight to Siberia and then. I guess that's where I end this episode and then the next one will be from Siberia..
"moscow" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Moscow U. S. futures are following a global stocks lower as the fallout continues from the U. S. airstrikes that killed a powerful Iranian general more and that in a moment but first we're coming up to six oh one on Wall Street and we check the markets every fifteen minutes throughout the trading day on Bloomberg S. and P. futures are down nineteen points Dow futures and a hundred seventy four nasdaq futures down sixty two that action Germany's down one point six percent back in Paris down one point two percent of the foot see one hundred down one percent Nikkei two twenty five Japan dropped one point nine percent in the hang sang in Hong Kong down eight tenths percent ten year treasury up one thirty second yield one point seven eight percent and the yield on the two year one point five two percent comex gold is up one point eight percent or twenty seven dollars twenty cents at fifteen seventy nine eighty announce the euro one point one one nine seven against the dollar and again but eight point no one nation Karen tensions between the US and Iran are getting hotter Tehran is threatening retaliation over the killing of its top general and it's also abandoning limits on uranium enrichment meanwhile in a rock the government is looking to expel American forces we get the very latest now from Bloomberg international editor Jody Schneider calls reprisal from the region that there be attacks on U. S. assets and US service people in the region we've seen the rock parliament actually vote that the U. S. remove its troops from that country and on the Iranian side we've heard from them in terms of the Iran nuclear agreement the twenty fifteen agreement that they will no longer abide by a key part of that agreement which is that they no longer in rich uranium the killing of Qassem Soleimani is appearing to unite Iranians with thousands turning out to mourn the general over the weekend as around threatens retaliation and Iraq seeks the removal of US troops president trump is issuing threats of his own to both nations here with details as Bloomberg's Derek Waldeck Donald Trump put in very stark terms that if Iran does anything the U. S. will retaliate and he said he reserves the right to retaliate disproportionately the other one that adds new risk that we haven't necessarily seen before is following the Iraq vote president trump threatened to sanction the U. S. ally Iraq if they kicked out US forces and did not reimburse for cost spent on base construction which is billions of US dollars billions plural of US dollars the US led fight against Islamic state is being suspended in a rocket forces instead focus on protecting bases that have recently come under attack the tension in the region as oil prices spiking again today Bob McNally is president of Rapidan energy advisors our assessment is that the odds of an over to US military conflict with Iran went from about five percent to about twenty five percent and we think crude has some more risk pricing to do at the end of the day we think will avoid a war because both president trump and the Iranian leadership wish to do so neither side wants to go into a full on military conflict in checking well now West Texas intermediate sub one percent or sixty three cents to sixty three dollars sixty nine a barrel Brent is up one point three percent at sixty nine fifty meantime in Europe leaders are scrambling to work out what they can do about tensions between the US and Iran we get details now from liver Sebastian sound like who is live from London good morning Sebastian good morning cara Nathan the U. S. killing of a top Iranian general was more than just a shock for the E. U. it was a disaster the block has been fighting an increasingly desperate and lonely campaign to keep the twenty fifteen Iran nuclear accord together ever since president trump pull the U. S. out in two thousand eighteen the fruits of more than a decade of diplomatic efforts by France Germany and U. K. was laid to waste on Sunday when he Ron said it no longer considers itself bound by its international obligations to risk stretch the measurements of uranium these are the three countries issued a statement Sunday saying they are at your own to reverse all measures inconsistent with the tail live in London Sebastian sonic about daybreak thank Sebastian risk off sentiment is widespread in global markets the move lower for equity started immediately when trading opened in Asia Bloomberg's Juliette Sally joins us from Singapore with details morning Julia good morning I did encounter drive to safe havens like the yen so that a K. two to five have its biggest one day full since early October closing lower by almost two percent del again drop to mid one oh seven levels intraday bearish Lee breaching the one await to one ten range that it's held since mid October of elsewhere positive rate on China's economy with the Taschen December services PMI holding up in expansionary terror tree wasn't enough to boost sentiment on the mainland the CSI three hundred close down four tenths of one percent in Singapore I'm Juliet's Ali Bloomberg daybreak gradually at thank you the questions for markets now is what comes next co Q. and lowered his head a flow strategy at socio day general if you look at the track record in sort of twenty nineteen when he came to North Korea and crisis we have learned that reacting to quickly today sort of Joe politic arrests could be quite damaging for portfolio investment returns so I think it's safe haven have reacted the way they should but I think that it will be very difficult to see a complete set of the buckle in terms of war simply because Iran will have a lot more to lose and therefore I think they might be more subtle retaliation over a longer period of time as opposed to it'd Phatak type situation and attention as gold having the highest level since twenty thirteen respond gold the trading at one thousand five hundred seventy seven dollars an ounce analysts believe Iran will retaliate but it's less clear what form that may take some of the killers had deputy head of the Middle East the Chatham house but it's also about setting sort of a president and the message to the United States and this was sort of one step too far and here Iran very much chance to control the narrative of how it responds and I think Iran has to escalate because it's the only way out of the sanctions faced maximum pressure policy and sort of crisis and it is already under going with the trump administration and more on the tensions coming up this is Bloomberg six so seven on Wall Street we bring in Michael bar with the latest world and national news morning Michael good morning David.
"moscow" Discussed on Slate's Political Gabfest
"It. It had garland in it. I think it obamacare grammy's tony breath in it right defensive farms. Maybe is a fancy farms which some big kentucky political hoo-ha and it had this graveyard and and tamie mcgrath was was an per supporters were outraged that that <hes> mcconnell seemed to be wishing for her death or making sport of her death and then there was also a cutout of a._o. See that's mcconnell. You very young. Teenage mcconnell supporters were were <hes> man-handling manhandling and various slightly grotesque ways boy handling boy handling yes <hes> so emily. Do you think okay it was growth but does is. It deserves the three minutes even that we're about to give to it. Does this is a real controversy. Is that why why will the tombstone things. I think that it was several hours. After the el paso dayton shootings like suggesting that you know you want your political opponent dead i mean that's i think that verges verges into like really not a good idea. You know look this the mcconnell supporters who were being gross about the a._f._c. z. cutouts supposedly were high school students so like you know is mcconnell entirely responsible for them no of course not on the other hand shaming him over over them a little bit like that seems fair game. I think the stuff is exactly that some people wearing t shirts touching cut out in <hes> not a nice way but actually when john road did it with the hillary clinton cutout hates. It was a different time in two thousand eight. The only reason that it popped national attention is that everything that highlights does and maybe you could criticize her for taking attention off the moscow mitch thing she also dated in the middle of a spate of concern about school shooting. I would say among our national issues. It's not in the top thousand. Do you think the grim reaper graveyard it is tasteless and and <hes> he should be chastised for how offensive that is. I mean he did kill the green or i don't know if he's going to kill the green new deal. That's more of a strangled the crap no. I don't think it's tasteless. I think that it's not it's. I don't think it actually endangers anyone. I think it's symbolic speech. That's goes back to the days of every thomas nast political cartoon hope. Nothing happens to amy mcgrath. I mean i think that sure i don't know i guess i'm just increasingly uncomfortable with like death and violent images being tied directly to actual people and i am thinking of gabby giffords as i say that i you know you know like look. It'll probably be fine. We are awash in violent disgusting imagery etc but i don't know it just seems like really his his co. But his critics okay i'll stand up for mitch mcconnell his critics label him as an insult. The grim reaper he ju jitsu turns turns around owns it and then some of his supporters put on this display. You know whose fault was injecting the death imagery in the first place. I have a good answer for that. It's no one's fault..
"moscow" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio
"Moscow Russian police have detained three hundred eleven protesters from an unauthorized opposition protests activists are demanding free elections so who will be the next director of national intelligence Dan coats is leaving the president nominated Texas congressman John Radcliffe but his nomination was met with questions about his experience and qualifications CBS news correspondent Tom phony Mr trump says he does have candidates in mind three of them he'll be reviewing over the weekend with a pick likely by Monday the current number two in the intelligence director's office has congressional support but there have been reports that the White House feels otherwise the second in command of the agency would be sued Gordon in Gilroy California an update on the investigation into last weekend's mass shooting at a garlic festival initially police reported that they had shot and killed the suspected gunman a core coroner's report indicates the suspect was indeed wounded by police but then turned his own gun on himself police chief Scott smithy in my mind it changes nothing you know the office you still got their fast they engage in fast the Bruins fire and they eliminated the threat whether he fired that final shot or not in my mind changes nothing this is CBS news CBS news radio is your home for breaking news with our team of reporters around the country and the world we give you the coverage you can trust there's nothing like meeting face to face and there's nothing like zoom to make that happen soon let.
"moscow" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"Yeah me too totally all right well that was easy arguments from the peanut gallery. I think there is something to be further looked into in litigated <hes> because it's like it's still something still doesn't sit right though right that like wikileaks could walk away for that entire situation squeaky-clean but it might just be the case that that's how it has to be for us to uphold First Amendment Rights Yeah agreed. We have to really protect host so do they have like <hes> like a wikipedia style donation thing on their page because people could boycott that you need some kind of consequence consequences if it works the same way otherwise we would just go in and I'll change the pages and money. It's free speech same argument Ron Paul Offspring just keeping that sign alive libertarian funded one hundred percent gosh all right guys. It's time for a social media call to action all right so an OP ED in Washington Post. This Week is making Turtle Dick Mitch Super Sad and the story says Mitch is standing by trump up in refusing to lift a finger to defend against Russian election interference in two thousand twenty because trump can make or break any other legislation Mitch Might WanNa Pass. He doesn't seem to want to bring anything to the floor for a vote these days the Washington Post article didn't even mention the two point five million dollars McConnell accepted from lend Levada Nick nor did they mention <hes> his Deripaska reach around when he voted to lift sanctions on the oligarch so he could get a giant Russian aluminum plant in his home state and no homosexual shaming on the reach around. That's just a friendly gift a- anyone can reach around. Yes exactly thank you. I just wanted to combination yeah those emails though not not a homophobic comment just a favor <hes> but regardless of those things not being being mentioned in Wapo trump called the Washington Post a Russian asset and this is a signal to me that someone is leaked some of the F._B._i.. Counter intelligence findings to trump saying he's an asset because his M._o.. Is that once he finds out he does something wrong. He accuses his opponent of doing the same thing. Yeah can't spill asset without mass asked hat Russian asset and morning Joe Morning Joe Joe Scarborough <hes> has coined the term Moscow Mitch and according to The Washington Post and now it's trending on twitter so please had to social media and keep Hashtag Moscow Mitch on the Charts I love that we should like do a little experiment and try to get a bill bill. That's pro Russia on the floor and C Mitchell vote for that like Russia is awesome bill. Go yes this is we are putting the bill forward that says we need to hand the overall of our internal polling data to the Kremlin. Oh yeah that's so curious about what she's a little test bill yeah yeah he'll be tempted. You know he will really sweaty betty. Yeah holy crap all right guys. We'll be right back in one second. Thanks for listening to the daily beans the new morning news podcast with swears if you sign up and become a patron and not only will you get ad free episodes are newsletter and research notes presale.
"moscow" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"Moscow has denied roiling US politics through social media. The Kremlin has kicked out as baseless claims of a political disinformation campaign on social media reports released by the Senate intelligence committee on Monday suggested Moscow's efforts to help Donald Trump in his twenty sixteen. Presidential bid through social media were more far reaching than originally thought. But Vladimir Putin's spokesman to meet she peskov rejects the claims saying the committee sought to shift blame for the social tensions in the US to Russia without offering proof. He's reaffirmed a strong denial of any meddling in US politics. I'm Charles with desma, predominantly Muslim ethnic minorities in China are forced to live and work in internment camps aimed at cracking down on their religion the AP found one detention camp where men and women so close that are exported to a US supplier of school team. Uniforms. Breaking news and analysis at townhall dot com. Arizona's governor named Martha mcsally to replace Senator John Kyle in the US Senate seat that once belonged to Senator John McCain Republican governor Doug Ducey says mix Sally will take over after Kyle's resignation becomes effective December thirty one MC. Sally lost the Senate race to democratic Representative Kirstin cinema. She says she and cinema fought a spirited campaign. But she is confident they will now be able to work together in the Senate for Zona. There's a lot of common ground between us, and I'm ready to hit it running. Arizona's two senators have always worked together for decades. That's our tradition and how we're most effective, and that's how I plan to serve MC Sally will serve until the twenty twenty election. When voters will elect someone to serve the final two years of John. Mccain's term Kyle was appointed after John McCain's death from brain cancer. And that was back in August. More on these stories can be found at townhall dot com. If.
"moscow" Discussed on Hostage
"Iban Al Khattab invaded the adjacent Russian Republic of Dagestan in an attempt to establish an Islamic caliphate. This coincided with bombings. And the Russian cities of Moscow Volgodonsk in raise on that following September, the state controlled media and politicians in Russia pin, the blame for these bombings on Chechen terrorists most notable among the outspoken Russian leadership was forty six year old future Russian President Vladimir Putin who was then head of the federal security service. He took a strong stance on crushing Chechen resistance. But rumors persisted that the Chechens were not behind the bombings and the Russian federal security service or FSP had in fact organized these attacks as it turns out FSP agents were caught planting secondary explosive devices in the city of raise on Russian humanitarian Sergei Kovalyov noted, quote, we don't know who carried out the bombings of the apartments, we do know who used it. It was the campaign staff of Ladimir, Putin and. Quote, Chechen president must call dove subsequently declared a Gazave hot or holy war on the Russian army in retaliation for the perceived attempt to frame Chechnya for a terrorist attack. The moderate who had won the election was no more president Moscoso found himself fighting alongside Shamila Besigye have and it all Khattab the human rights violations committed by both Russians and Chechens against each other throughout the nineteen nineties has had some academics questioning the use of the term terrorism to describe anti Russian Chechen attacks Olga nuts. Kula a professor of political science and crack off one stated that the conflict between Russia and Chechnya was simply irreconcilable according to her research. Russian leaders are intent on keeping Chechnya from having independence using any methods necessary and. Chechen 's in turn have adopted the motto quote, death or freedom. Unlike the first Chechen war, the second conflict went largely unreported in Russian media Chechnya was so dangerous that few journalists dared venture there for a story and the state controlled Russian media was intent on stoking anti Chechen sentiments among the public the Russian media did tie Chechen guerrilla fighters to some of bin Laden, if an all Khattab claimed to have met bin Laden and undergone training in Afghanistan alongside members of Al Qaeda, and some of the Arab militants who trained Khattab were spotted in a home video of moths of training in the woods for many. This is a strong indication that mob Sar and his comrades were supported in some capacity by Al Qaeda, while they employed similar strategies any actual collaboration between Chechen insurgents. And Al Qaeda seems to be sporadic. The relationship seems to have been more based on bartering for supplies than collaborating on battle strategies, the ties between Islam terrorists in the Middle East and the Islamic fanatics in Chechnya is not inconceivable, but many believe that Putin's government exaggerated their ties to win support from the west. There was one common tactic used by the Chechens, and Al Qaeda suicide bombings in June two thousand sixteen year old Luisa Magomadova and seventeen year old kava Brian plotted the first recorded suicide bombing carried out by Chechen terrorists. Kava was rby beret of sister and mauve cyber ent- Louisa in kava. Drove a truck filled with explosives into a Russian special forces barracks. Just south of grows. Ni according to a spokesman for the Chechen rebels cover pariahs last words were quote, I'm going willingly to my death in the name of Allah and the freedom of the Chechen people end quote. After breaching the perimeter the women detonated the explosives killing themselves and around twenty seven Russian soldiers. This bombing had a monumental impact on the methodology of warfare between Chechen 's and Russians, suddenly and tragically bombings became a horrific. Norm. RB variety was finally killed on June. Twenty second two thousand one in a raid by Russian special forces after his uncle's death mob. Sar now in his early twenties. Took command of the spur mov shar. Now, how does own squad of loyal soldiers willing to die in the fight against Russian oppression. He had seen firsthand how the tactics of taking hostages and employing suicide bombers worked as a -ffective terrorist strategies as mob saw Berea plan to take hostages Russian artists. Planned, a landmark theatrical production. In the mid nineteen ninety S Russian folk musician Georgi Seila was inspired here just witness to production of the acclaimed musical Les Miserables in an idea was forming in his head..
"moscow" Discussed on X96
"I have a couple of my own moscow pee i don't know who did this but you put a mattress and old mattress on the park strip under a tree because you want to get rid of it real i mean so you just leave it there on the park strip under a truck i mean really and the news people when they're doing a news story and they don't really have anything to show you on onscreen and it is news so they put up a google map of where it's really easy it's just lazy was all we could do all we can bring ourselves to do for the story is show you a google map of where where this one from tricia the never ending pain that goes along with having both of your knees replaced too i'm really glad i had them replaced because that fixed a much worse problem however oh my god will this stupid pain ever go away i suppose so i will be patient it'll it'll go away fishing well this one from sarah having store employees referred to the merchandise as though it is there's personally for example i asked you very young employees at a clothing store for specific size and they respond well let me check my computer it doesn't look like i have those in right now this happens all the time everywhere from the grocery store to the hardware store i don't think i have what you're looking for i don't have those in stock i don't sell those it's not yours unless you're the owner of the store stop referring to it as you personally purchase those items and put them on the shelves to sell personally you don't own them therefore you should not use a first person term possession to refer to these things i'm okay with them referring to the store as we that's fine you are referring to the store and a team as a whole we don't have blah blah blah must go thanks for letting me listen how never never noticed that i i've noticed it but it doesn't bother me seems like it's somebody who's taking pride in their business but there you and then finally this one from sarah when people use language or words in a way to try to sound much smarter or superior than they are and then completely misuse the word for example i know lady who always says things like i would never have guessed fish cooked on the grill could taste so well no you mean i never would have guessed fish cooked on the grill could taste so good but i can't correct these people because it would just make me look like a pretentious snob as well so i don't gary let's see this from christian garcia greetings my lords radio and podcasts griffin's to you chris from greensboro north carolina all away with my moscow's he can't hear them today oh that's too bad my girlfriend's limited alcohol knowledge especially when picking beer or wine don't send her to the store yeah trainer take a picture of your favorite beer wine send it to her and say this is good brunch places that don't serve mimosas christian has a very fancy man the eternally angry dc fan boy that everyone at work is tired of listening to amen my indecision in naming minute kitty should i stay with tradition and name him after star trek captains or start with a new series since i've already used up all the good captain names i'm open for suggestions how about you start naming it after star trek doctors start with mccoy how many cats are you have been through pal early as well they all wear little red shirt motza at least five or six all right this one from lionel james lewis things must go people who tailgate me on the way to work at four thirty in the morning despite the fact that i'm going to speed limit and they begin flashing their lights honking at me it only makes me slow down and you look like an idiot you should see the smile on my face while you freak out lionel dumpy okay get over carries the one that's terry move over move over carries the only other one on the road at that time right right from my james people that use the mcdonald's drive through in the morning to order half the menu all i want is just a coffee but i have to sit and wait for you and the quest that you're apparently on to get diabetes people that take city league softball way too seriously sorry you never reached your dream of being in.
"moscow" Discussed on Z Talk Radio
"Moscow lorde given that could you said long don's old names trai oh you until switch if leanne campbell bombs of but jio ryu leekens down bentonville emme good jay larkin said but that he had seen sure me oh man the fbi seven that could japan that that ceremony is let shared.
"moscow" Discussed on PRI's The World
"For the values of democracy and freedom vladimir karamursel their head of the bosnian saw freedom foundation and in that report from the bbc's garry o'donoghue in washington now to some lighter news at a moscow it snowy i know that might not sound like news but i'm talking about record breaking levels of snow sergei gory ash goes in moscow with our partners at the bbc seen it looks like a huge pile of snow right now there are a lot of traffic jams on the road unless the emergence associates urged drive us to use public transport more than a months worth of snow fell in moscow within just thirty six hours at the weekend and this is the biggest snowfall up the russell capitals since mitterrand's icl records again so moscow may circus of any has already old the event like the snow fall on the century all 2000 feast collapsed under the weight of snow even one person his dad but now the emergency services are working to clean the streets up and so while the city's trying to deal with these huge amount of no i mean a few weeks ago we were talking about virtually zero snow in moscow as abnormal as this very large amount of snow seems to be but just check me on that what is more abnormal in moscow tons of snow or no snow and is this difference kind of confusing paypal what actually last i did decades it's more normal when there is no slow at toll even in just cold but it's not snowing so much this sort of situation that have two days really extraordinary for the city by i've never seen anything like that on the people i think are also shocked was such an amount of snow how're you personally coping sergei while i to go uh do that my metro station just by myself i can use the bus and today are they were a lot of traffic jams on the street sound diet was more comfortable just to walk of it i actually was notes so comfortable at all because.
"moscow" Discussed on WPUL Radio 1590
"Hm in moscow but june razer and by john adding the julianne hough good that did do the plane state ddos attack emme yes this this.
"moscow" Discussed on KIIS 102.7
"Moscow a new bag an and waals man demand the the the new however yeah no not going his tokyo namely battle turkey naming agree wale mobile we are not again in june jim again now with the may contain the core no zoe saldana join address servants and resolved i would feel foolish we're soon enough you'll love resumed gay malik monk the the fatal anymore no until again namely and they know gaining nine three no the foot again be the sun in those g leg day span she god.
"moscow" Discussed on WCBS-FM 101.1
"Moscow the prime sms boy oh so boston caused his john fyre cay geoff stults said chefs six it's paul millsap oh man man the two but two this the other big show is on cbs thought gone it it is on cbs fm candidate in the morning in download that all new radiocom edward very thrilled about this that's why we mention that so much you listen this cbs evan anytime anywhere we have one lady of listen vat.
"moscow" Discussed on The Cryptoverse
"Now did say that these might ease the wool at versions of the cod are limited edition it says right they're limited edition designed for my eat the wallet so if you're a big fan of my eighth wallet and you want to support him go and check this out at the lincoln the video description looks pretty cool to me i like the idea of it being a plastic cod rather than a papal wallet because they'll be more durable and then this as a give the gift of lethem's o globo one of these cards an entity give it to someone else by handing over the the private key which is hidden in the security seal nice nice does he collaboration between different companies and he theories based isn't it i onto the fed story moscow stock exchange proposed to trade cryptocurrencies this article comes from bitcoin dot com air days this was published actually today the 30th of august and kevin helms's the article author so praised him for that so i have highlighted just a couple of bit saw this article which i think the most pertinent the squid onto the red bit fest there it is it says the exchange the moscow stock exchange plans to trade cryptocurrencies as well as derivatives and exchangetraded funds based on them ets which we knew like bitcoin etf an american all that was big deal right but to me this is old paradigm old paradigm thinking the question is why would anyone want to buy a derivative of bitcoin when you can just hold the bitcoin yourself.