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Alaska tribes await word from FCC about broadband licenses
"This is national native news. Tony gonzales alaska. Tribes are awaiting word on scores of wireless broadband licenses by the federal communications commission. It's part of a push to improve internet access and underserved communities a startup called alaska. Tribal spectrum received a one hundred thousand dollar grant to register as many alaska tribes during the final months of last year's application period gym berlin. Heads the keybase nonprofit which has signed up nearly seventy tribes mcnally commission were set up to create a recreated website in an application process to make it very very simple to join the consortium application and get as many as many tribes to grab a hold of for free asset before before the window closed any unclaimed licenses will go to auction to private carriers berlin says it was a big push to get rural tribes with poor internet to enroll on their website and the struggles. They had were told the craziest stories. You'd ever wanna hear trying to get their application in some of them. We ended up faxing in in in in to get an in Somehow to handwrite it. You know and do paper applications. I mean it was. It's so challenging. One of those tribes as douglas indian association near juneau kamal lint off says the trip was happy to get assistance. We had no clue. You know what this really was. And then no clue on how to how we manage it or even get started We had probably a couple of different places contact us and we kinda jumped on board with that one stinking. I was all we needed to do. Some of the applications overlap the douglas tribes applications for coverage in an area also claimed by central council of clinton haida indian tribes. Overlapping claims are being negotiated. Tribes will still have to pay for infrastructure. The cares act created a one billion dollar broadband fund tribes can apply for alaska. Tribal spectrum has applied separately for a federal community connect grant to bring broadband service to villages and the bristol bay region montana state lawmakers heard two bills wednesday seeking to establish indigenous peoples day in october yellowstone. Public radio's caitlyn. Nicholas has more senate bill. One forty six brought by senator. Shane mauricio a democrat from missoula would replace columbus day with indigenous peoples day. Senate bill ninety four sponsored by democrat. Susan weber from browning in northern montana would also establish indigenous peoples day but does not remove columbus day. More support was shown for the proposal to remove columbus day. Even the other bill sponsor said she preferred it. But many proponents including jordan thompson confederated salem in kootenai tribal member spoke on behalf of both bills are believed that the first bill we heard today was kind of like inviting everyone to the same backyard for a barbecue. This one's more like waving at each other with fence in between so we support it. But i'd much rather be at the barbecue. Proponents of the bills spoke to the importance of celebrating. What they called true. Us history acknowledging olive montana's citizens and the harm of celebrating christopher columbus whose acts of genocide and crimes against native. Americans are well documented. No one opposed either bill. During the hearing similar montana legislation failed in twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen. No executive action was taken on either bill for national news and report for america. I'm caitlyn nicholas the. Us senate committee on indian affairs holding. Its first meeting of the new congress thursday. The committee will elect new leaders. Senator bryan shots democrat from hawaii. As chairman and republican senator. Lisa murkowski from alaska as vice chair cove in nineteen relief healthcare education sacred site protection and a long list of other issues are among tribal priorities. I man tonia
No. 17 West Virginia hosts No. 23 Kansas to begin 6-game gauntlet
"Saturday. Two pm eastern number twenty three kansas at number seventeen west virginia inside joe missoula coliseum. You can watch it on. Cbs america's most watched network is the network stars west virginia minus to give me a reason to pick kansas in this game. There's none right got a is. It justifiable k. This has dropped four straight road games by an average of nine point eight points. Those games were oklahoma state. Baylor oklahoma tennessee. I figure we're in agreement here. I'll take baba steam. I gets gets a win. We'll be stunning. But there's just not anything to base picking kansas right now gotta go. Wvu kansas six and six in the first two quadrants with all six losses coming in the first quadrant cases is not bad cases. Just isn't great. They're just like look but one obvious difference between early in the season in like recently. The jalen wilson is five of twenty six from the field in his past three games. This should nineteen point two percent. He averaged sixteen point three points and nine point zero rebounds in kate us first game. We were like whoa look at this. Now he's past seven games didn't seven point one points five point seven rebounds so he has slipped. Kansas has slipped west. Virginia by the way hasn't been great five and four in the past nine games three and one in the past. That's that's okay but five and four in the past night. yeah. I mean again. Kansas lost four straight road games. And i know it's not going into joe missoula coliseum under normal circumstances but like it's still a rogaine. They haven't been good in games west virginia minus two. I'll lay the number
"missoula" Discussed on Serial Killers
"The man into his home but he didn't even question what wayne was doing there. In a haze of confusion. Doug turn to get a flashlight from the garage. Almost immediately wayne ran up and struck doug on the head with a small black baton. Doug fell hard onto the concrete and wayne dragged his unconscious body into the house. Meanwhile chris was upstairs and didn't initially here any commotion on the first floor but as soon as doug came to he started throwing punches at wayne hearing the skull. Chris realized something sinister was going on downstairs. She made her way down to the living room and saw doug wrestling with wayne was ran to help. Her husband. wayne produced a gun and ordered the couple to separate. Chris pleaded with wayne to leave them alone and asked him why he was doing. This wayne made up an excuse about needing money then pulled a clothesline out of his pocket and ordered chris to tie doug up with. Doug restrained wayne carried. Chris up the stairs where he tied her to the bed. Then he went back down to the living room to deal with doug according to doug. This was wayne grew. Noticeably excited wayne told dog that he wanted to get him as far away from chris as possible and forced him to hobbled down into the basement. Over the next half hour wayne vacillated between the upstairs bedroom and the basement checking in on chris and doug to make sure they were still secured. If he had a plan as to what he wanted to do with them he hadn't yet enacted it. Eventually wayne gathered the courage to carry out his deadly plan on one of his trips to the basement. He knelt in front of doug and stabbed him in the chest. Doug watched through half closed eyes. As wayne pulled his bloody knife out of his body then wiped it clean on doug's pants according to doug wayne stared at him as he bled out onto the floor looking down at his victim with complete and utter dispassionate. The callousness of the entire ordeal suddenly doug and wayne walked back upstairs. Doug was filled with a surge of rachel energy. He freed himself from his bindings and stumbled over to the bench where he kept his hunting rifle. He loaded it with a cartridge then heaved himself up the basement steps. Doug felt sure that he was going to die but was determined to take his murderer down with him. He's slowly made his way up to the living room where he started making noise at the base of the stairs. He hoped the noise would get wayne to come back down where doug could get a clean shot off without putting chris in anymore danger. Doug's plan worked. As soon as wayne realized his captive was free. He ran out of the bedroom. When wayne appeared at the top of the stairs doug aimed his rifle and shot wayne in the side wayne fell to the ground screaming. Doug made his way up to the landing and slammed the butt of the rifle into wayne's head instead of fighting back wayne started crawling back towards the bedroom no matter many times doug smashed wayne's head and neck with the rifle wayne seem determined to return to chris blood trail the two men as doug followed wayne down the hall and into the dimly lit bedroom. Chris watched from the bed as her husband. Ferociously beat wayne. Who was crouched in a corner at some stage. Doug was distracted which gave wayne a second pulled his own gun out of his pocket and fire. A bullet into doug's sky wayne grinned through bloody teeth as doug fell to the floor then wayne started to reload at that moment. Duck remembered the second gun. He kept in his nightstand. Fueled by adrenaline. Doug leapt across. the bed. grabbed a gun and prepared to shoot wayne. But just at that moment. Another shot rang out in the room. But wayne hadn't shot doug and he hadn't shot chris according to doug wayne. Accidents shot himself in the head and as there would be killer lay slumped over slowly dying. Doug and. Chris called the police when the police and paramedics arrived. Chris pleaded with the emt's to focus solely on her husband but they loaded both men into the same ambulance and them to the hospital together. Luckily doug survived his injuries however thirty year old wayne nance succumbed to his injuries and died later that day. News of the deadly home invasion spread quickly in nearby hamilton. Bob shook saw the story on the local news station. He realized that his son miche and daughter-in-law theresa had bought their furniture from the same place. That wayne had worked. Maybe he had something to do with their deaths. Bob called the missoula police department and told captain weathermen what he suspected. He also made sure to mention the missing elk and hunting knife and asked investigators to see if they were at nance's house less than twenty four hours later. Police found both items at wayne's making him the primary suspect in the shook murderers they also discovered photos of wayne with a young woman who matched the description of the body. Found near the boehner damn two years. Prior wayne's father. George identified the woman in the picture. As wayne's ex girlfriend marcy bachman who he knew as robin marcy scholarship to a forensic lab in colorado where the head was matched to the photograph because of these revelations the murder of dimona nelson is also believed to have been committed by wayne after all he had been in seattle at the time of her disappearance and he dumped marci's body in almost the same spot as davanas and years after he'd been questioned by police wayne was retroactively implicated in the nineteen seventy four murder of donna pounds. The evidence had always pointed in his direction and now that a fuller picture of his criminal life emerged. It seemed almost certain in particular. His habit of tying up victims before killing them convince the police that they had the right man however george nance refused to accept that his son had possibly committed so many crimes. He tried to convince detectives. That wayne had been having a consensual affair with chris and that doug was the aggressor. George believed that wayne may have accidentally hurt. Doug out of self defense. But he definitely didn't commit any the other crimes they were trying to pin on him. The police likely understood. George nazis instinct to defend his son. It was the kind of behavior they'd seen from parents and relatives of criminals. Before surprisingly there aren't an abundance of studies that examine why family members insist on protecting their loved ones at all costs. perhaps that's because from an evolutionary standpoint. The reasons seem obvious. scientists like charles. Darwin have observed that mammalian parents are program to keep their children safe from harm. No matter what yes wayne was dead but his reputation would live on so george followed his parental instinct to shield wayne from the judgments and proclamations. That would surely destroy his legacy. Of course another primitive defense mechanism was likely at play here as well. George was in denial. About wayne's true nature psychologist anna. Freud introduced the concept of denial as self protection in her nineteen thirty six book the ego and mechanisms of defense accepting that his son may have been a serial killer was simply too painful for george to endure. So it's understandable if you wanted to believe that the police were mistaken about wayne.
"missoula" Discussed on Serial Killers
"Him with her life. That's probably why. In september of nineteen eighty-four. She accepted his invitation for a walk. Deep in the missoula woods. Perhaps she thought they were going for a romantic outing in the wilderness. Maybe even that they would make love right there amongst the trees. But wayne's plans were far from amorous marcy wouldn't leave the woods alive. Thanks for tuning into serial killers. We'll be back soon with part two wayne nance we'll take a look at his final years of life which is believed to have spent terrorizing women and couples across missoula montana for more information on wayne nance amongst the many sources we used. We found to kill and kill again the terrifying. True story of montana's baby-faced serial sex murderer by john causton extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of serial killers and all the spotify originals from podcast for free on. Spotify will see you next time. Have a killer week. Serial killers is a spotify original from podcast producers. Include max. And ron kotler. Sound design by michael motion with production assistance by ron shapiro. Carly madden and brusca kovic. This episode of serial killers was written by ellie. Read with writing assistance by jane and joel callan fact checking by haley milliken and research by brian patriots and chelsea would serial killers stars. Greg poulsen and vanessa. Richardson fact. Fiction fame discovered the real story behind. What of history's most formidable families and the spotify or original from podcast. The kennedys remember you can binge all twelve episodes starting on tuesday january nineteenth. Listen free and exclusively on spotify..
"missoula" Discussed on Serial Killers
"When it came to women he never spoke about them as people with personalities preferring instead to describe them as sex objects whenever a beautiful woman came into the bar heed eagerly offer to buy her a drink if she implied that she wanted to be left alone wayne wouldn't get the hint invariably he'd make a few more unsuccessful advances before eventually settling into a corner to stare longingly but wayne wasn't just ogling women from a distance. He's believed to have been secretly canvassing. Their homes likely preparing to break in and raped them in his bedroom. Wayne kept a stash of hand-drawn floor plans to the houses of local women featuring detailed drawings of their interiors already wayne was displaying the psychological profile of an organized killer according to the f. b. i. Organized killers plan their attacks meticulously. They're usually socially adept of an average or above intelligence high in birth order and experienced inconsistent parental discipline. As a child it's also common for the killers to watch their victims before making their move in order to ensure that they've chosen the best person to kill way. Nancy took this step even further. It's believed he not only watched his victims. He scouted their homes. He paid attention to entrances and exits and located weapons inside the house that he could use while. It's unclear exactly how many women wayne start. It appears that much of his activity went entirely unnoticed or unreported however all changed in the summer of nineteen eighty-one when he decided to make house call to a woman named dorey schmidt dory was in her early forties and had just recently moved to a one bedroom apartment in east missoula with her husband bill. The marriage reportedly had issues. Thanks in part to bills drinking. When they got the keys to their new apartment bill was on one of his benches so dory forced him to stay. At his mother's she spent the first three days of their new place cleaning and setting it up alone. The little did she know wayne was watching her. From afar to wayne dory probably appeared to be a single woman who was new to town her apartment which he scoped out while she ran errands didn't indicate that she had a partner let alone a husband likely believing dory lived alone made his weight her apartment late one night in the fall of nineteen eighty-one. He was filled with anticipation as he crept inside and moved towards her bedroom but when cracked open her door he was taken aback. Dory wasn't alone. She had allowed her husband to return home that berry day while bill was intoxicated from a night of drinking he stirred when he heard. Wayne enter the room. Bill ordered wayne to leave the apartment at once as dorje rolled over to see what was happening wayne pretended to be confused about where he was and stumbled from the room satisfied. Bill fell back asleep but dori was understandably rattled and remained wide awake. Which is how she knew. That wayne didn't leave. He lingered in the living room and found a comfortable spot on the couch to wait. Duri hurt him. Moving around in the other room and alerted her husband. Bill bounded out bed and stormed into the living room where he accosted the intruder and tossed him outside early the next morning. Dorothy and bill looked out their window in horror wayne had never left still sleeping on the ground outside wrapped in his jacket when they confronted him wayne stuck to his story from the night before he'd gotten drunk and accidentally wandered into the wrong apartment because no harm had been done dory. Bill decided not to call the police but during never shook the sickening feeling that her husband hadn't been there that night things would have ended very differently. Way on the other hand seemed unbothered by the incident. He probably believed his cover. Story was perfectly plausible. even still. He likely knew he needed to be more careful. Although he spent a great deal of time indoors apartment he'd made a grave mistake. That could have ruined everything. The next time around he would have to be better prepared in february of nineteen eighty to twenty seven year. Old wayne snagged a part-time furniture. Delivery job as a mover wayne likely didn't have to scope of potential victims from the shadows anymore. Now he was invited inside by the owners as he carried in couches and tables wayne surveyed each room memorizing its layout he also gained access. To various apartment buildings conlon's his lawyer was a reputable furniture store in missoula and many customers entrusted them with their keys and entry codes to make the moving process. More efficient. what those customers was. A woman will call sandra. In nineteen eighty-three syndrome and her husband moved into the cobblestone apartments. Just east of missoula at some point. They purchase furniture from wins and wayne was tasked with delivering it while wayne had made deliveries to the cobblestone apartments before about sandra peaked. His interest after entering her home. It's assumed that wayne began scouting her apartment and learning her every day routine. This presumably helped wayne discern. Exactly when sandra was most vulnerable her husband worked late into the night and she often returned to an empty apartment to spend the early evening hours. Allow so on the night of april twenty seventh. A masked man believed to be wayne broke into the apartment and laid in wait. Sandra was barely through the door when the man appeared from the shadows and grabbed her by the arm. When sandra started to scream the intruder punched her knocking her heart onto the floor in response. Sandra kicked at the man and yelled for help but when he pulled a knife from his belt she grew silent and still. The masked man told sandra that all he wanted from her was money. He just wanted her to get it from the bedroom. Sandra felt sure that he desired far more than petty cash but she held out hope that the man was telling the truth he helped her up off the ground and led her at knifepoint to her bedroom. As soon as they got up the stairs they heard the front door open and close. Sandra's husband was home early from work at the sound. The masked man moved quickly. He dropped sandra's arm and ran through the apartment toward the second floor balcony outside. He jumped over. The railing then ran east towards the river. Sandra immediately called the police but by the time they arrived there was no trace of her intruder and because he'd been wearing a mask she couldn't provide authorities with proper description of his face. Ask such investigators told sandra that there was nothing they could do and the case was eventually dropped while no one was ever charged with or convicted of the crime. It's believed that wayne was the intruder. He not only had access to the cobblestone apartment complex as well as sandra's home the event align neatly with his eventual mo. But at the time no one at commons had any reason to suspect wayne's involvement it seems he'd finely crafted a new identity. Free of the stigma of his first murder at both the furniture store. And the bar wayne's coworkers new in debbie shy awkward but also kind. He asked after their families. He remembered their birthdays. He even scrape the ice off their windshields during the frigid montana winters with reputation like that. It's no wonder that some women belfer wayne in august of nineteen eighty-four a sixteen year old runaway named marcy bachman who introduced herself as robin blew into town and became smitten with the twenty-eight-year-old bouncer. Sparks flew as the two sat at the bar of the cabin swapping stories and sharing drinks. Suddenly wayne was on top of the world. he'd seemingly met the woman of his dreams and he wasn't shy about letting all of his buddies at the bar. No he made. Marcy feel like she was really something special treating her like. She was the best thing that ever happened to him. Because of this marcy thought wayne loved her deeply and likely trusted.
Mozilla: UNFCKD the Internet
"So the Internet is not working says Lindsay Shepherd who likes to be called Chap and she works for Missoula Org and they have a new campaign get ready called UN F C Caid the Internet and she's GonNa. Tell us all about the campaign. Hey shop what do you say hold a person good to talk to you. So the problem in nutshell is what? The problem in nutshell is that the Internet has gone from something that is full of magic and incredible experiences to being riddled with systems that. Work under incentives that aren't about people there about prophets and so you know we've set up a series of actions that people can take simple things. You don't have to be some tech expert to understand how to do this stuff, but just simple things that people can do. Has More. Let's go down the. Shore. So we started off. This campaign with a first set of actions, and that's going to be changing over time because you know things change super quickly. Obviously. Online our first action is pretty simple. It's download fire Fox rate fire. Fox is really an independent browser. It doesn't track you. It doesn't keep your data and it's a way to kind of have that freedom of experience on the web. So that's always going to be like an easy recommendation US fire Fox browser gets you off to a good start. But. Then you start thinking about the different pieces of the Internet that people are using rate. one please little lot of people spend a lot of time time online as facebook. But what people don't know is that while they're posting picture their kids and their pets. There's lots of trackers that follow them around the web even after they leave. Right. So when you go to facebook and you leave facebook is following you around to understand where you're going what you're doing and using that to inform the content that you see on facebook and we don't think that's okay. We, think people should be able to sort of control that. So we recommend that people install our facebook container, which is basically an add on that prevents facebook from following you around on the web that's in Fire Fox. It's an add on fire Fox. Yes it is really effective. Can It really stop facebook from trucking? It really does we call it a container because sort of keeps facebook in a box where facebook is seeing what happens when you're on facebook. But not once you leave. One. Act to actions. What would a similar ones? You know we also want people to understand a little bit more about the situation Salako saying education is so critically important. So we are recommending that people take the time to watch the social dilemma on. Netflix, have you watched that yet? which is humanity about the the downside of being mind day. That's right and you know sort of profiles, some of these deeper rated problems in the system and so many folks are finding that really useful to understand helpings truly work. We don't believe that that necessarily gives the full breadth of the conversation, right? It's it's a bit of myopic view from a very specific group of people. So we recommend that people watch that, but we've also put together a compendium of different articles from different perspectives has a little bit more diversity to it. I'm for people to get a fuller sort of richer picture of what's going on there. So that that's another action that we recommend just educating yourself but not just from this one place like at the full breadth of perspective. W to. Bachelor. We do we have something called YouTube regrets? And basically it's another extension of fire. Fox in what it does is it lets you report regrettable recommendations that you've been served. People go to find out about the campaign at some of these other companies that. Iraq recommend. It's MAZZOLA DOT com slash U. N. F. C. K.
Driscolls Will Grow Strawberries Vertically, Year-Round
"Wonder I'm David Brown and this is business wars daily on this Thursday October fifteenth. What's on your plate for lunch today a salad some fruit. Since, the pandemic began many of us are eating healthier or at least trying to and all those additional leafy Greens and Berries on your plate have to come from somewhere preferably somewhere that reduces long distance food miles and maybe improves the taste over those deadly dull hothouse tomatoes. Our Appetite for fresh produce is fueling big growth in hot new industry vertical farming. On Monday, Driscoll's America's biggest strawberry provider said, it will start growing some of it strawberries in an indoor vertical farm that farm is run by San. Francisco AG Tech. Company. Plenty. Unlimited. Driscoll's new huge greenhouse will be in Laramie Wyoming hardly the nation's strawberry capital anticipating consumers possible objections driscoll says strawberries grown vertically without dirt or fresh air or just as tasty. Perhaps tastier than those grown on its California farms founded in twenty fourteen plenty unlimited began growing mountains of leafy Greens in a San Francisco vertical greenhouse last year. It now supplies leafy Greens to hundreds of Safeway, and Albertson's grocery stores in California. If you were to walk into its High Tech Greenhouse, you'd look up and up and up at endless walls of Kale a regular lettuce in Missoula. Mix. The company is green in more ways than one. They say, they use no GMO's and no pesticides because they don't spray for bugs plenty makes the startling claim that you don't even need to wash their produce and like other vertical farms plenty claims to use a tiny fraction of and water compared to traditional farming about one percent of land in less than five percent of water. Most vertical farms launched with Greens which grow well hydroponically and aeroponics not to mention they take less space than say tomatoes and strawberries. Moreover, local Greens are popular. They're also delicate which makes them great candidates for one of the purported benefits offered by tech indoor farms. That is if you can use controlled indoor conditions including led lights, artificial intelligence, machine learning, and recycled water to grow food on a large scale, you can put these greenhouses anywhere whether it be damned, and if you can grow strawberries in frozen Laramie Wyoming year round, you can shrink food miles the average. Plate of food travels fifteen hundred miles before it winds up on our table shrinking those food miles is good for the environment. It's also good for most produce great for grains. But now that vertical Greens have been proven, it's time to expand into other fruits and vegetables which brings us back to driscoll's the strawberry giant. It supplies a third of all strawberries in America and it's making a big investment in plenty. The Financial Times reports that high profile deal is only one of a flurry of investments signaling the news that high tech indoor farming is here to stay. Recently revel Greens. Minnesota startup raised almost seventy million dollars growing. It's total investment to two hundred million dollars using rainwater and snow. Melt. Company grows lettuce in mammoth greenhouses in California Texas and of course, it home in Minnesota with its new money rebel Greens plans to expand its Texas footprint according to the Star Tribune newspaper.
"missoula" Discussed on True Crime Garage
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"missoula" Discussed on True Crime Garage
"Individual that he knew that possibly was maybe a little bit older than he was or somebody in authority figure yet appears that he became infatuated with these women with these three targets. Now, he's tied to several other cases and we did discuss the possibility that the unknown killer at the time back in seventy four might have been responsible for the murder of Clifford and Linda Barnhart that took place in billings Montana five hours away. Very weird here captain. It was just last year that they were able to find the killer of the barn hearts all of these years later. In two thousand and nineteen authorities. Identified the killer of the barn hearts as C. Social Stan Caldwell. He was a CO worker of Linda Barnhart who died in two thousand and three at the age of fifty nine cardwell had no arrest record. It turns out that it looks like see soul Stan, Caldwell was the unknown dinner guest for that night at the Barnhart House and what about these? Other Jane Does Yeah in the trailer we discussed to Jane does. We talked about Christy, Crystal Creek and another Jane DOE that was named Debbie deer. Creek well. In the course of about five years from nineteen eighty to nineteen, eighty five, there were three unidentified women found close to the city of Missoula one found in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one, and eighty, four, one in eighty five. All of these victims were determined to be murdered. They were unidentified remains. The first victim was found in January of nineteen eighty and she was dubbed Betty beaver tail. Eventually, she was identified, but they've not been able to determine who killed her or put her in that location. A second body was found in nineteen, eighty four, and she was the one that they labelled as Debbie Deer Creek. The third body was that of Christy Crystal Creek found in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, five, it took many many years captain, but they were able to identify. Debbie Deer Creek. As Bachman. She was about sixteen years old when she ran away from home and it's believed that she hitchhiked her way into the area. Where she falls into our case is there was this mysterious girl that was not from the area way back when living with Wayne Nance for a brief period of time going by the name of Robin. After this unidentified woman was identified as Sherry Bachman. And pictures were released to the public. Featuring her next to Wayne Nance. Many people came forward and said, hey, we know this girl that was named Robin that was living with Wayne for several weeks, and then all of a sudden she was gone one day. And win asked what happened to your girlfriend robin who you seem so serious with. Had a different story for each person that asked him that question what happened to Robyn? Where'd she go? Did you guys break up at a different story for each one? So Wayne Nance? Pretty firmly believed to be responsible for the.
"missoula" Discussed on True Crime Garage
"Donna pounds case. All right. But what about the other cases that you have talked about? Well. It's interesting here captain because there was a lot of thought put into the possibilities with Wayne Nance. Unfortunately, we have dead suspect in these other cases. And we've seen this so many times these zero killers, they are a weird breed. Where we get them, we lock them up and sometimes they spill their guts and they sing like a bird and they tell us all kinds of stuff. They tell us all kinds of stories some of them true. Some of them false. They claim numbers that they have not achieved as far as killing goes. They. Other Times they shut down and don't say a don't admit to anything. With this case, we're left to speculate. And our friends out in Quantico the FBI profiler 's they were very interested in the possibilities of Wayne Nance. They had speculated that he probably killed five year old Chevron McGinnis. And there were several thoughts put into this theory one that she was an easy vulnerable victim that it was part of his process of. Becoming the serial killer. She would have been unfortunately a low risk victim for someone like Nance, who wanted to. Try His hand at killing. For several reasons one, she's very young. She likely didn't know Wayne Nance, and if he attempted to do anything, she wouldn't be able to identify him if she survived also she's only five so she doesn't put up much of a fight. There's another theory involving the possibility of Wayne Nance killing Chevron McGuinness. And the thought was that maybe he was into killing kids. And the. Target. Two months later was not Donna pounds. But he had been watching the House and maybe the twelve year old daughter Cathy was his actual target. But. Donna pounds came home before Kathy did and he decided to attack and kill her. The FBI has about this quite a bit and Roy Hazelwood who I'm a big fan of he's written several very good books. He put forth a couple of theories about Wayne nance potential involvement in the Chevron mcdonagh's case. However, in two thousand eight, we find out through DNA analysis found on Chavan McGinnis that Wayne Nance is not responsible for her murder. So it looks like Donna pounds was in fact, his target on that day yet seems like part of his sexual fantasy was..
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"All right we're back you filthy crime animals. Cheers cheers tall cans in the air. Cheers one more time for the people in the back and when we say people in the back in the garage, we mean that's third row people in the cheap seats. Third row is the with the last row. We only have three rows. So here we go. Captain, we have a desperate shariff. WHO's looking for answers in this case, that is very quickly going cold a double homicide in his county. He's desperate looking for answers anywhere that he can find them and we have a psychic. Then I'm not certain if he reached out to this psychic or if the psychic reached out to him and sometimes law enforcement does that to get new leads or possible tips or anything one detective that we spoke to said that he would do that just for some outside of the box thinking was there some possibility or theory that we've not considered not that they're gonNA put any weight into the psychics visions or thoughts or whatever. But maybe it's just some kind of theory that we've not thought of you regardless of how this interaction comes out. The psychic tells the sheriff three very interesting things. One that the killer has some type of injury to his body and I believe that they said like the right side of his body, maybe his leg or his hip testicle that's about as much as they could provide on that first little detail. The second thing was that the perpetrator was in. Woodworking or in the furniture business and some form or fashion. The third and this is the one that really seem to bother the sheriff. Was the psychic told Sheriff die the he would have to wait until September to solve the case. Of course, di wants to know why the psychic is unable to provide that information. Right. So then the psychic has to go to another psychic framed figure out. Why? Well they have a whole network, right? Cyclic network. That's right. All right captain this takes us to September third of nineteen eighty six. What we have here is late on September third we have a married couple who is returning to their home. They get to their house and they see a vehicle parked in their yard Well, the husband is quite upset about this. Nobody likes it when somebody parks on your property, that's what the streets and roads are for. He tells his wife you go ahead and go inside. I'm going to go over and check out this vehicle. He goes over to the vehicle and inside he sees a man who appears to be sleeping inside the truck he goes in and he tells his wife no big deal. Looks like somebody had way too much to drink and decided our property will be a good place for them to sleep it off. Right. There in the home for a little while he has some things outside on his property, I think like a boat and a shed, some things that are of concern to him that he's always voice to his wife that you know anybody could easily steal my boat if they. If they're on the property or they could get access to the shed. So now he starting to second guess this whole man outside sleeping thing and they have relatively big property too..
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"Now, let's talk about Wayne Nance a little bit more as said, he's a senior at high school he lives with his family nearby. and. His Father George is an interesting guy he's. As far as their family goes, it seems like the general consensus is that these are pretty normal regular people with the exception of Wayne he kind of stands out at school. He's kind of the odd kid and that's because of his own actions in his own words. His as far as his family goes his father at one point and I don't know I couldn't find a year for when this happened. But it seems that at some point, his father was involved in some type of robbery which led to him serving some time in prison. And I think that this actually went down when Wayne was an adult. Another thing that went down when Wayne was an adult was his mother. For the life of me, I can't figure out one hundred percent y they've listed at this way she died when he was a young adult and they listed her death as a suicide. Yet, we have several people that were with her the night of her death. That says that they were she worked at this place called the cabin which was known as a quote unquote cowboy bar and I guess the way that they ran the place was that the employees were allowed to drink there whether they were working or not. She was working that night and got pretty drunk during the course of her shift hopped in the vehicle and decided to drive off. She smashes the vehicle head on into a tree for whatever reason they listed her death as a suicide. It seems to me like she was a drunk driver and made some very, very dangerous and poor decisions that night. And all that stuff happens when Wayne is older. But what's going on right now is we have this information that the gun was located in a secret compartment inside some furniture. And that Kenny is telling police Wayne Nance knew about that gun and had fired it before. So the one half of the room that likes Wayne Nance for the Donna pounds murder, they're screaming at the top of the mountain. Let's go get this kid. They get a search, warrant the go to Wayne's house. They start talking to him asking him questions they ask his mother. Questions..
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"On this. You're just throwing us off the scent right that's what their thoughts are. Can you imagine this guy? Let's say he's innocent, right? Let's say he's the victim here. His wife has just been killed and he's been told by police. Oh, we're investigating this lead that somebody was seen in your backyard. We're investigating this lead so much. So to the point where we're begging the public for their help that we found the surgical glove could y'all go out in your yards and look for the second one. It seems to me like he's Kinda doing what the police are asking the public to do. He's out walking the neighborhood and his yard looking for that other surgical glove were looking for outright like go out and look for this stuff and he's looking for it and they're like man, right. But Mr Harvey pounds don't you dare go out look for this stuff you seem a little suspicious when you do it, they thought that it was like he was trying to steer the investigation maybe he's trying to direct the narrative of the evidence, but we don't know that tied to the evidence. We don't know the demeanor of this individual either because. You know going back to the original when the investigators show up and you have to talk to the husband. That, knowing what we know knowing that the percentage is most likely that the spouses involved in the murder of another spouse. So when you show up. You don't want to just assume that you don't want to. Say that they're guilty before you have any proof of that. But you're going to be looking at them with suspicious eyes anyways. Well, and that was the issue within the sheriff's department itself. You kind of had a split down the middle of opinions with the officers in the. You had half the room that seemed to know Harvey Pounds Pretty. Well, and they understood how religious this man was. And they're going he could have never have killed his wife because that's not in his nature. That's not who harvey is he's not a violent individual. He's very involved in his church and then you have the other half of the room going. Maybe these rumors are true and he certainly looks like a good suspect he's the husband his gun was used to kill this woman. So you really had a split down the middle within the sheriff's department. These people arguing these officers arguing amongst each other as to what the direction of the investigation should be. Right. One thing that Harvey reported that the Sheriff's department did not like at all. Was a bullet. that he found inside his home. He said that he found a bullet lodged inside of a book that was in one of the rooms on a bookshelf in the upstairs. The problem that the sheriff's department had with this bullet that harvey pounds found was they couldn't believe that they didn't find it. This could have simply been one of the shots that was fired upstairs and they didn't find this bullet for whatever reason. Now, the way that this was found the way that I understand it to be anyway, captain was. The book was positioned as such on the shelf that the not a binding or whatever you the spine. was an how it was the pages the pages side was out. So when this bullet was fired from wherever in the room, it got lodged in some of the pages of the book right but there was another rumor that was going around at the time and this had nothing to do with Harvey. pounds. and. This was that started off sounding like a rumor but. Could actually be. Really true. The rumor was that this odd kid in school his name Wayne Nance. He's the same one that's already been questioned by police that kid that skip school because he wasn't feeling well on the same day that Donna pounds was murdered right? The rumor going around school was that Nance it told a few other students that he was going to kill someone before he turned nineteen years of age not again. Again, they're all connected. They're all little pieces of of the same puzzle. This reminds me of Damian eccles right. Right, when reviewing this case, that's one thing that kept popping up and you are mentioned bt K. and you'll see some. Some things will remind you of the Golden State killer as well. This is really a very fascinating case. And these rumors that are going around at the school Nance says to a couple people. Hey, I'm going to kill somebody before I turned nineteen. He's eighteen at this time. He's running out of time if that's what he's really going to do I mean. Thinking back on high school middle school I don't remember ever hearing some say. Anything like that. I. Thought was like insane. Like this regular island and say like I mean I heard say a Lotta dumps heard a Lotta Shit but I told people I was going to be Batman when I grow up Still working on that all the I turned in my job application the other day L. Year. Yeah. Gotham city mayor. My application I'm Batman. If you get a call. By the way. I use you as a reference You you need to answer the phone Vanity Industries for the next few days. So. This kid here's what's weird about this. Oh. Captain the principal. Catches wind of this, and it's not because he's out in the halls and here's these kids speaking. The kids that that nance supposedly told this to they were going around school and blabbing this to everybody. No because wants Donna pounds is found murdered in the neighborhood where nance lives. These kids aren't blabbing about it because they're afraid all of a sudden. They're afraid and they've already heard the rumor of the occult. Or panic note that was supposedly found in the area of the crime scene you mean, they're just Afraid in general not afraid of Wayne. No I think it's two fold I. Think they're afraid in general because there is a killer out there but they're they're extra fray because they think they know the killer they think it is. Kiss Kissy, Fethullah? Theft of one of the kids that was in very good upstanding with the school with the teachers and the principal his name was bill and he knew nance fairly well call them friends but he goes to the principal and he says, look, this is what way Nance was telling people before Donna pounds was killed. That he was going to kill someone before he turned nineteen. Is Weird all thought it was Wayne Being Wayne. Now Donna pounds dead and in a roundabout way bill tells the principal I believe Wayne was trying to tell me that he killed Donna pounds. How this comes about is bill says that one day he's hanging out with Wayne at school again, they're not. They don't seem to be friends they just know each other from school right there might have to sit beside.
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"Murder are always very interesting. We're coming up on Halloween, the old trick or treat time, and we've covered plenty of cases where they cancelled beggars night because of local rumors because of an unsolved murder and local rumours right. So what were some of the local rumors here in Missoula at the time? I I'm going to warn you I'm not GonNa go through all of them because there were quite a bit. There was a bunch of stuff swirling around and we would later learned that the majority of them. Don't carry much weight. They're just not true but the more interesting ones. This world around was the idea of a cult or witchcraft being involved in the Donna pounds murder. One rumor tied directly to the murder of Donna. Is that an individual involved in the occult or Satanist. Was the killer? The rumor was that either a no or a letter of some type was found near the Donna pounds crime scene described the quote ritual that was that this individual needed. To kill three people to give themselves to Satan. All right. The Need to kill three people I according to this rumor. They needed to kill or sacrifice a virgin then kill sacrifice someone who is a faithful Christian. And then the third murder would be that a betrayer. If this is true. The Donna pounds, the wife of Harvey who spends most of his time working for the church right? She must be the Faithful Christian follower. Okay. So that means that someone the Virgin has already been murdered. And then Donna pounds was killed and someone else third victim still needs to to die or this occultist or Satanist for them to achieve their goal. So who was the Virgin? Well sadly, there was a local case. To, connect that theory too and that was the very sad case that started just two months earlier with the abduction of a little girl. On Tuesday February Fifth Nineteen seventy-four youngster described as precocious and friendly. This is little five year old show Van McGinnis. She vanished around seven pm on that night and early February. She was last seen by her neighborhood friend at approximately seven PM Chevron was at her friend's house. The friend lives in the same neighborhood. Around six thirty PM chevrons mother Bonnie called the friend's house spoke with. Chevron. Tells her she needs to come home soon. The two little girls walked from the friend's house and headed in the direction of chevrons home. Right when the two reached the halfway mark this is right near Whittier school three blocks from chevrons home. The two parted ways were kind of school. Is it elementary middle school high school I have no idea. in the papers just said, Whittier School. Again, this is only about three blocks from Chavan's home. The to part ways her friend turned around and is going to head back to her house and Chevron presumably continued on her way. However she never made it to her home. chevrons mother reported her missing at eight forty five PM. Now the search intensified after a report of an attempted assault on another five year old in the neighborhood earlier that day. According. To police reports a man with curly red hair talked this other girl into a shack or shed on the north side of Missoula and tried to molest her the girl according to the paper's. ESCAPED UNHARMED The February seventh newspaper featured a sketch of the man saw in the molestation attempt. Police did say that there was no official link between the two crimes doing no fits Alderman or younger man judging by the sketch, it appears to be a younger man, right? Another lead was a report that came in from another local school. This is from the Paxton school officials. This said a man was seen near their school asking children to get into his car so that he could take pictures of them. Yeah. That's that's an innocent hobby. Isn't it? Yeah. The description of this man did not match that of the description of the man saw in the molest Ron with people you know what I mean what's wrong with people well, and then you got to go a step further and you go okay. What is scarier go? Do we have one guy going around to multiple schools looking for a potential victim or do we have three individuals who are all deviates into different weird stuff, right? Unfortunately, Captain Chevrons body was found in a covert by a county road worker. At the Tura, I believe it's pronounced Curragh T. U. R. A.. H. Exit from Interstate Ninety. She was found at approximately three, forty, five PM on Thursday. February seventh. The body was reported to be bloodied and there was a blood trail found beneath a new layer of snow so. It's early February. It's cold out. It's Montana which gets even colder than here. They were experiencing snowfall within several. You know period of several days. And however this blood got there. It had got there and it was on top of some snow but then there was an additional layer of snow that had fallen on top of this blood trail. There's some weird things going on here though captain there were no human footprints found in the area but there were several dog prints found in the area and mind you they find the trail of blood that leads down from the road out to this culvert where she is eventually discovered underneath that layer of the new layer of snow right? But the dog didn't transfer out there. Well. You just you just totally poke holes in my my theory I was GonNa. Say have not found anything to confirm my suspicions but I think it's possible. She was dumped right at the side of the road and then dragged the dogs dragged the body to where she was eventually found. Okay. Look. Is it possible but why don't we have some drag marks on the body drag marks In the area we could. We could. It's I just find it weird that we find dog tracks but no human prints. By it, but also that might give you a clue of when the body was left. Because if the if it was dry or cold, we wanNA, have any..
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"All right we're back two years made. He's back. I'm back. He's back tall cans in the air every. Robitussin in the air. Within days, the sheriff's Department announced another possibility that there could be a connection between Mrs Pounds murder and the slaying of a billings Montana couple that was murdered in their home a little more than six months before Mrs, pounds was murdered. Law. Enforcement from both cities announced that they would be working together to see if there was in fact that connection between. What the sheriff was calling to bizarre sets of crimes. Right. But this makes the whole community. High Alert Yeah Yeah, and we should point out that the city's although in the same state, you know Montana is a big state. And the two cities of Missoula and billings are about a five hour drive from one another. So in the same state, but not really close at all. Okay. So let's go through the double slayings in billings Montana. This is a young married couple and this is Mr and Mrs Clifford and Linda Bernhardt. They were found dead inside their home by Linda's mother. She was unable to reach her daughter and son in law by phone for a couple of days and decided to go to the home to investigate. And found both of them dead in an obvious double homicide. The couple were both twenty four years of age and had been married for four years, and they recently moved into this home I think it might even have been a new build. Clifford was an army sergeant and Linda worked at the grocery store. Clifford was found lying face down in a pool of blood lender was found in a bedroom sexually assaulted and strangled. There was no sign of forced entry into the home. There was evidence that both victims at one time during the attack were tied at the wrist and ankles but detectives did not locate the bindings at the scene. So meaning the killer took them with him. Also taken from the scene where several of Linda's personal items this included a suitcase and some of her clothing. But there were some even more bizarre things about this crime scene. One it appeared that the couple was getting ready to sit down for their evening dinner when something terrible happen meaning they were attacked just before suppertime. Dinner was prepared and set out on the counter as if it was about to be served. Even. More strange. The table was set but not for two people, the table was set for three people. It was looking like the burn hearts, dinner guests either never arrived or killed them both like they're serving right another odd behavior of the killer. Would you like tuna salad turned the heat way down? In the home. And opened up several of the windows. In, the couple of days that it took for the bodies to be found, the low temperature was six degrees during those days. Now, if any connection was made between these two horrific crimes at that time. It's really unknown and probably not likely. But it was never really mentioned again, they said to agencies are going to work together on this, and then it kind of disappears from the news. Did we have any Tampering with the thermostat. At the pounds home brain? No, we did not. So of course, this is something we have seen in many other cases where law enforcement will say they are looking for connection either between two somewhat similar crimes or maybe a location. You know we've we've cover cases where they start talking about pig farms, Church Gun Stores State Park. even stating that they are looking for connection to a known offender someone recently picked up for something completely else but after a couple of days. It just fades from the news. They don't ever really announce all. We were looking at this guy and we didn't find anything it just Kinda goes away and we don't hear much about it again. What we do hear about in the Donna Pounds. Case. Is a surgical glove. The sheriff's department, of course, canvas the area immediately going door to door asking questions. That's how they got the lead on the Wayne Nance the witness who said they saw young man in the pounds backyard. And that was what led them to question him. As said, Nance was a senior in high school in some of the officers thought this type of horrible heinous act could not have been perpetrated by some kid from the local high school. This surgical glove however was quite important and of course, they thought so and it was not ever hold back information the anthem the authorities found the glove just outside of the pounds neighborhood it was a single latex or what some would call a rubber surgical glove. It looked like someone had just tossed it on the ground is an amazing how many cases are similar? Like when you think of the actions that probably took place in the pounds home. The Instruments that were brought. The way she was found. The way that she was bound. That really reminds me a lot of like bt K. but then you have this glove that's found out in the yard. Remind reminds me a lot of the Tara grinstead case. Well, you see. What type of people litter what type of losers who litter litter you're obviously a psychopath that day's lesson kids? Yeah. So this glove is important because they believe there was blood on it. So they sent it to the FBI crime labs for analysis thought to be the best at the time. They are hoping for two results. One. The very unlikely chance that the glove contained both the killer's blood and the victims or fingerprints from the person who took the glove off at this time. Of course, captain, they would just be simply looking for blood type that could directly connect the killer to the victim or at the very least match the victim's blood. So they know that the glove was used in the commission of the crime by. But of course, the test would take time and regardless of what the results came back with law enforcement wanted to find the match to the glove right another single glove in someone's possession or even a box of gloves that match this glove. So the sheriff's office ask everyone in the area for their help. They were very public about this surgical gloves finding. They WanNa know has anyone seen gloves like this in someone's possession or do they know anyone that uses these types of gloves more importantly if people could go outside? and check their yards to see if the second glove was discarded elsewhere or maybe even the gloves were tossed together and a dog or something made off with one of them. We've covered true crime stories where dog show up running back to their owners with bones or body parts right so the the moving of a glove does not seem. Strange at all. Now. Like with most towns captain, there are going to be some local rumors and some of them, their way to the police or even the newspapers and some of them don't, and just like this case, the rumors from the seventies and eighties when there is an unsolved murder. When there is an unsolved.
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"See what's my chances of getting caught right. But so if we have these two leads is pretty simple. Wayne has been in their house. So if his fingerprints are in the house is kind of hard to say when they got there. This Guy Clyde, he has no connection to the family so of his fingerprints or anywhere in the house, then he's guilty. Yeah the theory quickly unraveled in just a little over twenty four hours after the murder of Mrs Donna pounds the Missoula County Sheriff's office announced that any possible connection between the murder of Mrs Pounds Mother of three and.
"missoula" Discussed on True Crime Garage
"Montana or big sky country as I like to say is the fourth largest state by area in this greatest of countries, the U. S. and a we've done over four hundred episodes. We've only taken this flying garage ship to Montana one time before, and that was in July of this year for our cereal confessor. Now I have only seen pictures but this looks like an absolutely stunning place to live. I'm talking about Missoula Montana with foil landscapes and earth as far as the eye can see you got mountains and of course, the big big sky. Well here we are again but this time we are not in poplar Montana like the confessors shows this time we are in Missoula, the hub of the five valleys and in relation to poplar the other small towns in Montana. Missoula is the big city. Today we have over seventy, five, thousand people living MISSOULA. Our story starts back in the mid seventies, and since then the population has more than doubled. So let's go back to nineteen seventy, four, Missoula Montana to a city of about thirty thousand people. On Thursday April Eleventh Nineteen Seventy-four the pounds family got up and started their day as usual. This is a family of five very religious family living in East MISSOULA. Four of the five family members living in the home we have husband and wife, which is Harvey and Donna. Who've been married for quite a while by this time, their son Kenny was out of the house. He is off serving this country in the armed forces. Their oldest daughter Karen she too has grown but still living at home and their youngest is Cathy who who's only twelve years. Old Harvey Works at a local clothing store and does quite a bit of work for the Church that his family attends the Donna works. At a nearby Christian, bookstore? On this Thursday Harvey and daughter, Karen will be going off to work and Kathy she'll be going off to school. Donna she has the day off. But on this morning, she's going to go off with a friend and at the pounds home. This morning really is nothing but routine. Everyone left the house including Donna who again has the day off, but she's picked up by a friend Donna would ride along with her friend who made her avon delivery. So that's how the captain spends a lot of his free time as well. Donna's friend returned and dropped her back off at the pound home. This is some time after one PM in the afternoon. Later, that afternoon Kathy the little girl twelve years old is the first one of the three to return to the home. She a friend from school went to the pounds house. They're doing typical after school stuff enjoying some snacks watching a little television. A little less than two hours later, the father husband Harvey returned home from his day job when he arrived, he briefly spoke with Kathy and her friend and he inquired about the whereabouts of his wife. Harvey went upstairs to look for her there. He found several cut lengths of rope. This is very unusual in itself but even more. So because one, the family did not have any rope anywhere inside the home and to the different locations of these pieces of rope. There were pieces tied to the bed post and one of the bedrooms a cut piece of rope dangling from the doorknob in the bathroom and some rope tied to the hoses attached to the families washing machine. But despite these strange discoveries, his wife was nowhere to be found. Harvey decided to check the basement and there at the bottom of the stairs lying face down. But up against the wall was the lifeless body of his wife. Harvey knew she was dead and was the victim of an attack that took place inside his home. Yeah. Of course, he's going to tell his children to get out of the house and they probably went to neighbors house. But you definitely want to. Protect them from seeing their mother like that. Yeah. He's going to call the police and call for help the police arrive on the scene. And we go through some of the evidence here capi the police arrived on the scene this. What they're looking for is how this whole thing went down of course, and along with the rope evidence, they're able to determine the following fairly quickly. The killing took place sometime between one PM when Donna's friend dropped her off at the house. And what they are a little murky on. Is. Did this murder occur before Kathy and her friend arrived at the house which seems the most likely. Or? When Harvey arrived home or did occur shortly after he arrived home there a little suspicious of course was seems like the perpetrator would had to spend a lot of time in the house. So possibly, there were the left DNA or fingerprints. So there's no sign of a break-in. There was little sign of of any actual struggle as well. This is concerning for police the cause, of death. Is Five twenty two caliber bullets fired into the back of Donna's head. There was evidence at the scene that suggests that the killer as you said, spent a considerable amount of time in the home. This could be a couple of hours. We talk about the cut lengths of rope that are found in several different locations of the home. Now two very important key elements to this murder the weapon was found at the scene. Now. This is not terribly uncommon but more times than not a gun is used in the commission of a homicide. It is removed from the scene. The killer takes it with them and disposes of the gun elsewhere or keeps it sometimes for the purpose of committing future crimes. Think. That is well. In this case, the twenty two caliber death instrument was not only left at the scene but was found pin between the legs of the victim and even more curious the gun belong to Harvey pounds the husband. Okay. So the perpetrator comes and brings his own rope probably brings his own knife does brings other things but uses the homeowners gun correct. That's the way that it looks data the way that it sounds with their discussion going on with Harvey at the time now mind you. Harvey's being pretty forthcoming. That's my gun. No one but he's the only one that can tell you if that rope came from the house or not, and he's saying that we didn't have any rope in the House that is not our rope. Now I, read somewhere that. This stuff was the hold back information meaning that. How many times she was shot. And where they found the gun and who the gun actually belonged to write I, read several places. This said that that is the the whole back information now. I'm not calling bullshit on that but if that was the whole back information, they managed to hold back all of two days because. All three of those items were in the newspaper two days after the murder, right? A couple of items that were in fact held back was that Donna's clothing. was. Found in. The upstairs master bedroom. Also found upstairs where some bullets. This means that shots were fired in the upstairs of the house, not just the downstairs in the basement. Where we have our victim shot five times, right? We know of she was sexually assaulted. It's believed she was but was that when she was alive or is that post.
Trump's former chief of staff John Kelly: 'we need to look harder at who we elect'
"Former trump White House chief of staff retired Marine. General John Kelly today, adding his voice to the chorus of former top trump officials, not just dismayed with President Trump's handling of the current crisis, but worried Kelly agreeing with former defense secretary. James Madison's withering assessment of trump as As someone who seeks to divide the American people someone not mature enough to run the country. Saying quote I think we need to look harder at who we elect. What is their character like? What are their ethics
Mental health care in a time of social isolation probably involves an app
"Mental health in a time of social isolation probably involves an APP from American public media. This is marketplace tech. I'm Ali would cova. Nineteen has opened up a conversation about remote therapy but online mental health care goes way beyond talking to a therapist over video conference APP analytics companies. They downloads of mental health and wellness. Apps are up almost thirty percent since the pandemic began. These include therapy services. Yes but also meditation APPs like calm or head space so first of all do they work and second. What are the privacy regulation concerns American public media's mental health reporter Lisa? Roth took this might make Freud turnover in his grave. There's an APP where you therapy with a robot. They're also APPs to monitor the side effects of medications APPs to help with PTSD and the list goes on and on. Now that doesn't mean technology is going to put your therapist out of Business John. Taurus is a psychiatrist who runs the Division of Digital Psychiatry at Real deaconess hospital in Boston. Algorithms not gonNA decide your care but he does use technology to help. Patients keep track of things that affect their mental health. Danielson is a freelance writer in Missoula Montana who has clinical depression an APP. He's using now. Tim Rate His mood with one being the worst and ten being the best. That kind of gives me a moment to realize that. This motion isn't me. I some counts there as many as ten thousand mental health APPS. So maybe it's no surprise that the prices are all over the map from free downloads to four hundred dollars for a lifetime membership at a popular meditation APP. Adam Powell is a healthcare consultant. Who says this means? It's hard to know how much the mental health APP business is. Actually worth some of the variation has to do with how that markets defined does it include wellness APPs or just strictly mental health APPs. Can they bill to insurance or not and so on? Stephanie's was is a therapist in North Carolina who got a grant a design and out for people with eating disorders but eventually gave up because a startup was doing it faster. That got her wondering how these should be regulated. Do we think of APPS as being like FDA approved drugs and we need to make sure that they're effective before the watch them to the market and because a lot of these APPs are being developed by companies. John Taurus. The psychiatrist says he's worried about what those companies do with people's data. What have you also gave access to your. Gps So knows where you sleep at night and you gave this access to your call and text records so it knows who your friends and contacts in. Romantic relationships are drug. Companies Marketing companies and insurance companies. Might all be interested in the data. You're sharing as of your mental health. Care though maybe not in your well being. That's American public media's mental health reporter Lisa Roth the. Us Census Bureau released data this week showing that roughly a third of Americans are showing signs of clinical depression or
The Love in the Time of Corona
"We have this matter that we're following with alert interesting. Great concern a corona virus round up. If you will as part of an occasional series that we call the promised. Podcast ponders a fraction of our reactions to the viruses exactions including rabbis region. While gauging the contagion will begin our corona roundup with this Susan a physician gets from the regional coordinator of mcabe health services through a WHATSAPP group of healthcare providers constant updates about the corona virus usually announcements press and sometimes detailed memoranda about changing rules and procedures issued by the Ministry of Health as well as a report of each new reported cases of infection with so much happening so quickly over the past week or phone is basically constantly abuzz with a nearly steady stream of updates among them. She received this week a WHATSAPP message with the bold heading a clarification of health ministry procedures beneath which was this which I read in its entirety quote. The general public is instructed to avoid hugging kissing in any unnecessary contact with acquaintances. Ashkenazim continued to act as you always do end quote. Of course doctors are not the only ones on high alert as a result of the epidemic rabbis to our consider for instance the following six examples example one Ashkenazi chief. Rabbi Dovid Lao announced last week that owing to the potential spread of the virus. No one should kiss a Mizzou on a door frame which could easily become a vector. Lau said in a statement quote. There is no doubt that one should not kiss Missoula or touch it at all. It is enough for a person to think when he enters or leaves a room about what is written in the Mitsubish Ma prayer and that will accompany him on his way and quote. Rabbi Lau added that quote there is no commandment or obligation to kiss a missoula that is simply a custom with ancient roots. That became traditional end. Quote number two asked whether a person in home quarantine me fulfill the commandment of hearing the scroll of Esther read on Purim which we celebrated this week via facebook live or some other form of audio or video transmission via telephone. Rob Schlomo Avi Nair. The rabbi of Baked L. And the head of the Authority shall Sheva gave a long learning and very ambivalent answer that ended with this quote in Summary. One under quarantine out of fear of corona may fulfill his obligation to read the mcgilla and here the mcgilla by telephone or live video and may read alone at home from a Kosher Mikaela written by hand on parchment by authorize scribe. He is not obligated to chant but he must read without mistakes and quote three on Monday. A mostly virtual mass prayer vigil took place with a core of rabbis and yeshiva students. I R. L. At the grave of Shimon Borrego high on Mount Rhone live streaming. There live prayers Shimon Barrio. High was the second century disciple of Rabbi Akiva by tradition considered to be the author of the Zohar the Great Proto cabalistic book that is the lowest classes of Jewish mysticism. According to tradition Shimon Barrio high was sentenced to death by a Roman governor and he went on the Lam living for thirteen years in a cave near Dera sustained by dates and cabs alone by the time his self quarantine ended Shimon bar Yo high was riddled with disease but cured himself by bathing in the warm springs of Tiberius with makes him a patron rabbi of our president health crisis among the prayers available on a specially prepared Internet downloadable text on the knowsley called prayers to stop the plague passages from the Zohar Tim Psalms and more number four when asked by student weather. The Quote Dangerous Virus Corona symbolizes a prophecy or heavenly sign. Rabbi Zamir Cohen the author of the bestselling available on Amazon for thirty three ninety nine book the coming Revolution Science discovers the truths of the Bible and the founder of the Hebrew Institute said among
Marijuana users need twice as much sedation for medical procedures
"Nina well for this study, researchers looked at the medical records of twenty. Five people all who underwent small medical procedures and to reported using cannabis daily or weekly may compared them to two hundred and twenty five people who had the same surgeries. But who did not report using marijuana? Turns out cannabis users needed around fifteen percent. More sentinel twenty percent more Missoula and twice the amount of purple to be sedated. The study is out of Colorado state where recreational marijuana use is legal. The concern is that patients might not tell the truth about their marijuana use in states, where it's illegal like, Indiana, Dr presson anesthesiologist, and you helped said doctors know, how much the Dacian to give based on the patient's blood pressure heart rate and movement, for example, still he warns patients to be honest. Using a regular basis and then abstaining for a week. They may still have quite a bit of compound on board in this. This is protected information. What you share with your physician is between you and your physician. Dr president said this study was unique in that. It was the first he's come across that study anesthetic effects on human cannabis users. But he also noted the study didn't report any mortality knows meeting more sedation. I asked Dr president his delivery methods would change if Indiana were to legalize marijuana. He's that he's likely reading patients that use marijuana daily more Hoosier smoking up when change how we put
John Karna talks "Valley of the Boom"
"Talking tech is brought to you by wicks dot com with wicks you can use artificial design intelligence to create a stunning website right from your phone in five minutes or less. Just go to wicks dot com. That's W I X dot com and create your professional website today. Actor John Karna got to play Mark Andriessen who created the Netscape browser back in the pre dawn of the internet era. He plays them in a new mini series about the birth of the internet called valley of the boom which airs on the National Geographic channel, John Carney joins us today on talking tech shares her fluctuations on the early days of the internet. I'm Jefferson Graham. Stay tuned. Yeah. You know, it's an interesting show primarily because you get to see interviews with the real players in ball alongside these kind of dramatic reenactments. But the only person who really didn't want to do any interviews for the show was Mark because he just notoriously hates talking about the past. And and so I got to kind of, you know, do like a mock interviews him, and then at some point somebody stops me, and I break the fourth wall. And I'm like, you know, guys, I'm obviously not market. I'm I'm this actor Jon Karna, and you know, Mark does. I don't really want to do this in in that way. Kinda gives me a little bit of leeway. Just in the sense that, you know, I'm a pretty small guy about five nine, and I think Mark at twenty four was six two or six three something crazy in, you know, like over two hundred pounds, and in this way, kind of gives me a little bit of leeway, which was cool. There's a lot of fun. She played the young Mark Anderson for yes, sir. Yeah. Mark at twenty four. I believe was when he was, you know, the founder of Netscape the first year there, and he was just a young kid. Really? I didn't really know a ton about Mark. I mean, I when I was a kid I remember using Netscape, and I remember, especially using Firefox growing up. I thought that like, you know, at the time that was the the browser that everyone said was way better than Internet Explorer in its cool that that code came from the original Netscape code in Missoula crew is off from the Netscape crew in. But I did a ton of research when I found out I got the Parton I was really struck by just how innovative really was to create a browser at that time in the ninety s I mean, it it just kept getting driven home to me how before this browser was widely disseminated no-one relieving knew how to get on the internet. Even though the internet had been happening for about a decade. It was really only being used by the department of defense in academia in. Browser. The first one mosaic. It really it opened everything up a lot of times. He likens it to the invention of the printing press again, and it in a way totally was that influential right now, did you get to meet Moton tourism? No, unfortunately, not. I'm such a fan. I definitely tried for a little bit too. Just to talk to him to get a little bit of a sense of what it felt like when he was a working Netscape because you know, he is he's just such a private person. Understandably, so and not the least of which because he's still one of the biggest players in the venture capital world right now. So I definitely wrote him like a letter. I I asked kind of like the the music that he listened to at the time because that was a really good way for me to kind of get into his head space. But no, you know, I just have had a ton of conversations with them in my head, you know, to question or treated with us market Newson. I I would definitely ask him about his. Music. I, you know, he just he everyone said he just loved listening to a ton of classical music. And I think like I I made myself a little playlist that I kind of thought that maybe he would listen to. I would also I would also, you know, if I if I really was able to talk to him, frankly, I would wanna know really any sort of details about how it must have felt when all of this was getting kind of on the downhill in a O L, you know, buys Netscape in it's not necessarily a happy ending for that company by any means. I mean, I've even though it saved it from Microsoft's, it kind of you know, that's the end of Netscape, and I would be interested to see, you know, if that if that spurned him on to anything new or if that kind of is something he would rather leave behind, you know, or via valley, the boom is on the National Geographic channel are. It's an eight ups owed for six episodes in where we have they run all of them or the. In the middle of it. Or where's that they're all out now and me personally, I think it's really great to binge them. Some of, you know, sixty episodes on the all flow pretty crazily in. I think you can find him on the net GO app or on the effects now Eappen, you know, hope everyone enjoys it. You've been listening to after John Karna who plays Mark, Andrew sim. Indeed, new National Geographic mini series valley of boom. I'm Jefferson Graham with USA today. You can find me on Twitter where I'm at Jefferson Graham, you can find talking tech wherever you listen to online audio subscribe to the show, please favorite us on Stitcher, which helps more people find the show and thanks everyone for listening. Talking tech is brought to you by wicks dot com. When you're ready to get your website up and running you wanna be able to do it quickly and efficiently and wicks dot com has got you covered. They developed artificial design intelligence that creates a stunning website for you with wicks, you can create your own professional website right from your phone, which means you can open your own online store portfolio or blog wherever you are. How's that for officiant? 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Supreme Court rejects Trump administration's asylum ban
"Yellowstone National Park area grizzly bears, Montana, publicradio snick Maude reports a judge's ruling blocked, but would have been the first grisly. Hudson decades, notice to appeal doesn't actually take the case to the ninth circuit. But it does by the government time to decide whether to formally challenge. The ruling the states of Wyoming and Idaho, along with four pro-hunting groups have also filed appeals attorney Andrea Senator Sierra of the center for biological diversity says a formal challenge by the administration would mean more resources spent on litigation less on recovery. Yellowstone beloved reservoirs deserve more than that. And we're prepared to fight vigorously to defend the court's determination. That grizzly bears. So meet federal protection fish and wildlife directed questions to the Justice department, which declined to comment for NPR news. I'm Nick Ma in Missoula, and you're listening to NPR news. Supreme court Justice, Ruth, Bader Ginsburg is recovering at Memorial Sloan Kettering hospital in New York City after surgery Friday morning for lung cancer. This Ginsberg's third bout with cancer in twenty years and she's eighty five, but as NPR's Nina totenberg reports doctors say the prospects for full recovery or good barring serious complications Ginsburg is once again, proving what a fighter she is on Friday just hours after surgery, she cast a decisive refusing to allow the Trump administration to implement its new rules prohibiting people from seeking asylum. If they crossed the border illegally the five to four decision was a setback for the administration which cannot carry out its policy without first persuading lower court judges now by evening Ginsberg was sitting in a chair and calling friends who said she sounded strong and pretty Chipper barring any serious complications Ginsburg is expected to remain in the hospital for two to four days and then to resume a light schedule of work at. At home, Nina, totenberg, NPR news, Washington. London's Gatwick airport says it plans to run a full schedule of flights today. Gatwick is UK second largest airport had had to close the runway several times this week because of drones that started flying in the area. Police have made two arrests as part of their ongoing investigation into the criminal use of drones. A self driving car startup has one permission to start offering rides to passengers in California. State regulators branded the startup known as oops the first permit under a pilot program, the company cannot charge for the service. So in a backup driver must be in the car to take over if necessary. I'm Joel Snyder NPR news. Support for NPR comes from NPR stations. Other contributors include the NPR wine club where NPR shows become lines like weekend edition cabernet and every bottle tells the story available to adults twenty one years or older at NPR wine club dot org slash weekend. This weekend edition from NPR news. I'm Scott Simon.
"missoula" Discussed on Risky Business
"And it's you can tell by the way, they've they've written about this breach. Like the credit card information was intercepted at the point of entry. Like, it's obviously it's just amazing to me that it's taken this long for a group to figure out that you just drop your page or whatever onto onto a sought to this is there no honor month thieves. It's just very sad to see them turn each other major deal. And I think we're going to continue to see this where people try to use the exact same code or the exact same attack. Vector is going to be not just who is I which which used to be the big deal. But. Who is trickier in making it difficult for their competitor to economically competitive, Amazon, the zone exposure that kind of isn't a big deal. It's getting headlines, and I kind of get why look I mean, they're a big company. Right. So that's why. But Amazon apparently exposed some uses Email addresses. That's by the looks of their response. It seems to have been fairly contained, but they are being a little bit too tight lipped on exactly what's happened here. And the Email to us who were affected was terrible. Yeah. I got that Email. I am in the list of people have been exposed. I think this is the the meta issue here is that nobody knows what GDP ours data disclosure requirements are right now, there's a bunch of words that have been argued about in in various working groups. But in the end, it is going to be years and years of litigation before we understand what level of exposure. Do you have to disclose whether disclosure like this is good enough? I personally I don't think the closure is good enough. But maybe it's just enough to to get past the. GDP our rules. This will be interesting case. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's a good point. How this one God? Google Missoula are apparently going to introduce functionality to browsers that will allow them to edit files on disk. Now, of course, the the advantage here is if you're using Google docs, whenever you want to save the fall, you don't wanna download at every time. Right. That's that's the idea. But you know, everyone's kinda pointing out like this could maybe be abused. Yeah. There's there's always these w three c working groups that are effectively you could summarize as the working group on making Java. Scrip- malware, a reality. This is this is one of those. I'm shocked that Google specially who's an all of this work on sandbox in chrome would wanna put themselves in a position where if they want to support this and they have to pop a huge hole in one of their sandbox protections. Hopefully, if this happens it happens in a way that is highly restricted, and the perhaps even while looks like you're right to the file system. You're right into the real file system. You writing to like a virtual is file system or something that is a proxy intermediate in some way. But I think this is this is not a smart move in you know, in the story one of the excuses. Well, you're going to have to have the pop up box. DO to choose. What file you upload? Are you save to the idea that you want to put this kind of responsibility back in users? I think is a real out how this works, right? And you just said like some sort of proxy intermediate intimate thing. Well, that's why you bugs are gonna be right? That's what you're going to be. If you wanna have long-term file storage, you're really going to have to restrict by design where these browsers can write to otherwise, you're going to get rid of all the benefits you've gone from having these operating system based container systems in virtualization systems that can restrict browsers like edge. Now, the last thing we're gonna speak about out of an useless. This Alex is is Sean Gallagher over at odds Technica is writing a multi pots series on the cold Snowden legacy and seems to have done a reasonable job of actually trying at least to some balanced balanced recap on the on the whole Snowden affair. I wanna. Get your impressions on this. Because you found yourself working as a see saw insulin valley very shortly after Snowden dumped his cache of documents and very much involved in the response to it..
Introducing Season 4 of IRL: Because Online Life is Real Life
"Does this sound? Okay. Yeah. I just go for it. Okay. I'm a new summer ODI, and I'm hosting season for of IRL online life is real life. It's an original podcast from Missoula to get the feeling that we're at the start of a reckoning for the internet in two thousand eighteen social media giants admitted that their platform spread misinformation and disinformation around the world. It's the same year that some governments past privacy laws protecting our data and others promised regulation to come. It's also the year the metoo movement found its way into the boardrooms of big tech. And that's what progress looks like hard conversation and debates are happening people like you and me are standing up for a safe open and free internet an internet. That is awesome for everyone. King. So why am I hosted the show while I'm a journalist, and my thing is investigating. How tech changes our lives and our world sometimes for good sometimes not so good. I've been using the phrase ethical tack on. I don't know if that's a real phrase. Let's use it because I really think that we can build technology that his ethical. It's what was Zillah does. It's what they stand for both of us want the same thing to have choice control and transparency when it comes to the internet. And it's through that lens that this season. We're going to look at how even the most basic things we do online our shaped by those who built those basic things from how we shop to what we read who moderates are content even how he pick our passwords. We'll unpack those ideas. Learn who gets represented and who gets ignored November twenty six. That's when the first episode drops. We are going to get nerdy. We are going to get Hugh. Human. We're gonna also some fun. Subscribe for free on apple podcast, Google podcasts or wherever you like listening IRL from zilla the company that makes the fire FOX browser. Come. Listen. Come learn and come demand, a better internet.
First migrants in caravan reach Mexico's southern border, government says
"News Radio. That Trump says Democrats want caravan of migrants from Central America to arrive in the United States before election day, Trump made the claim a campaign rally in Missoula Montana yesterday. Trump has threatened to cut foreign aid to any country that allows the four thousand person caravan to March
4 white supremacists arrested in violent Charlottesville rally
"For alleged members of a militant white supremacist group have been charged in connection with last year's deadly rally in Charlottesville, Virginia correspondent large Garrett. Whole Evan white Benjamin Drake daily, Michael Paul missoula's and Thomas Walter Gillan, and according to the federal complaint unsealed there in the western district of Virginia. These individuals were among the most violent individuals there at the protest in Charlottesville, and they were seen on video punching. Kicking head
American Airlines flier removed from flight despite buying separate seat for her cello
"Nobody on the ground died even though it came right down and landed on a car outside of, CVS the only thing the NTSB has told us today so far of. Any note is that the pilot Fifty-three-year-old Scott shepherd did notify them of an. Emergency but did not give them any. Idea about. The nature of the emergency. So they're looking into his background and the planes background was a twin engine Cessna happened yesterday about twelve thirty pm just scary people. Said. It, was heartbreaking we are monitoring out in the KFI newsroom the pilots according to LA times union airline, pilot unions representing particularly pilots of cargo airplanes Are protesting this plan in the FAA budget one hundred twenty eight and a half million dollars is being set aside to research the idea of only having one human. Pilot aboard a cargo plane and, that the second pilot would be down on the ground remotely flying remotely the pilots are concerned what this means of course for the future pilots they also say that the situation could lead to make, it more easily hacked I don't know you know all these jetliners now are fly by wire I mean it seems to me they're all. On software there's no more police there's no art. You know that sort of thing and it would seem to me those would be just easily as, hacked is whether or not the pilots in the airplane are on the. Ground Mary to a pilot so this is something of course he does not. Support my idea though is I think. It's just. The first step in the. Future that in I'm going to say in twenty five years when you and I get on an airplane there's a good chance that There will not be a human onboard flying the airplane lovely no I know where I know it's freaking us all out we're going to have driverless, cars driverless trucks happening now That that, technology will get better and. Better we'll be writing driverless taxis driverless buses driverless Uber's, and. Eventually, pilotless planes I don't I don't like that idea I. Know but it's because we we, don't feel it's. Safe And, so we'll have to. Get. Used to that, idea and there will be some trial and I, hope no error in a passenger aircraft although, there's going to be error well there's air crashes with Uber or not right, but the driverless car. Right, but you know you're less likely to have a suicidal airline pilot and when you know there's no pilot well. But then why not have redundancy have the guy's on board have something. Well that'll. Be the step see I. Think also, you're going to see, it I in in the In in the military where you will see in fact when I, was doing stories on the f thirty. Five way back when the next thing the next big airline project airplane project coming out from the Pentagon. Is there, bomber and I believe north grummin has, a contract and they are developing a version of that that will be pilotless now there are certainly many unmanned aircraft already that we've been, using for years and years and. There, comes a point where then they envision, you'll? Have several aircraft in, the? Air but maybe, only one of them is manned as the lead, and going into combat and you will have, the particular pilot he or she will in control or be able to. Control, all the other aircraft. At, the same time I mean I just think this is the future It's a long ways away mostly. I think, because of our emotional discomfort about it But I think a case will eventually be. Made they'll tell my husband. This, that it is at least safe if not safer We shall, see meantime you've got drones attacking drones in Venezuela The what's his name there Madero President. Nicolas, Maduro I always forget because. Missoula is just a pit now a. Pit, of starvation price inflation, economy has created this oil country anyhow They've arrested six people there for making this assassination attempt at Maduro using drones apparently he. Was giving a speech, on Saturday afternoon yeah and he I haven't. Seen the video but, it says he stops and looks up because he's right in. The middle of his speech they hear some noise his wife kind of winces and looks up he stops a speech and then you see the. Guards, who are all in formation. They start scattering and running away from. Him Scattering and running the reports that we had. And then the feed cut cut off wow So barely the. Drones that they had. Their use the attackers? Us to DJ I, am six. Hundred drones they're made in China are they each carried one kilogram of c four explosive they could damage caused. Damage in radius of fifty meters and. They were able to get one to kind of I don't know diverted off its path and then a. Second. Drone, lost control and fell into an apartment building. Word exploded on the first floor unbelievable oh then that's, why the the firefighters were disputing the report's early on from the state when. Stuff, happens. There's always sort of that, fog of what, information, is a, rally in, Venezuela, yes right and it's state run TV and they're saying oh there was you know everybody's he's okay, and but. And it was an an attempt on his life and then firefighters were like no it there was an explosion or there was a fire in the apartment. Building Oh see to drowns neither. One hit their target well they've got six people, arrested who knows if they. Got the right people but. They're now trying to. Extract information from them? And finally terror in, the skies. An outrage musician according to the Daily Mail says she, was booted off an American Airlines flight because of her. Cello despite paying for a separate seat. For the instrument which is worth thirty thousand dollars now passengers are permitted to carry on oversize instruments of. The. Flight, in the flight cabin if they purchase an. Extra seat and changing who who's a student at depaul, University School of music in Chicago she had flown to Miami with her cello. Without, any. Issues but on the way, back as she, boarded, the flight, to return, to, Chicago crew member said she had to get it off the plane she's like wait a minute this, meets all. The rules you didn't have a problem with it on the way there I. Bought a seat. And I bought a. Seat I followed, every single rule but then the. Pilot gets involved and they tell, her she's, got, to, go in fact he according to the reports. The, pilot claims that she hit him with the. Cello, on the way so is, joking at first is this her comfort cello, or whatever but they believe she and her husband believed the real issue was the, flight was overbooked. And so they'd rather have a human in that seat then a cello because the cello is not going to argue with you but if you remove the cello you have to remove. The, musician and according to a friend of hers who stayed on the flight after she and her cello got off the American Airlines flight to other people came on and took those seats so she, had to re Booker flight the next morning but this is. One of those cases where wait a minute on the first flight nobody said anything the first, American flag nobody said now and this is. What I, hate when you. Give it the airlines we're. Like no no I had no problem checking this for now Is. Able to take this before oh no no no you can't do it here and. Of course they're. The law there the. Law you can't, argue when you're on the plane. The pilot got when you're on, the ship, the, captain, has got all right when we come back I'll have. To check this out the next. Time I'm in Japan In Japan there is a new business model, people are renting out middle aged Japanese men or non sexual purposes and a woman. Has. Created an corset that allows you to light. Up your implants okay. Jane wells filling. In for Gary and Shannon KFI AM six forty here's the. News a girl in riverside has been attacked by her grandmother's pitfall the attack. Happened Friday and left the girl with serious injuries to. Her face the dog had attacked a different child two, years ago the grandmothers now turned the dog over to animal control and, it will be put down Chicago's, police superintendent and mayor Rahm Emanuel say the. Weekend was unacceptably violent at least ten people were killed and sixty. Others were injured in shootings in the windy city over the weekend a man, in Michigan has started when he calls Amish Uber. For five bucks he'll pick you, up in a horse and buggy although he uses the Uber. Name he doesn't work for the company and to. Score a ride Your cell phone. Won't work you just.
"missoula" Discussed on MeatEater Podcast
"And I command or take a couple of pokes through their fish trousers is making living out here selling this meat or something. Sure. So fish trout and come through tecoma pokes guy comes undone. We later had a reckoning in Charlie's bar Missoula Montana. Not at the takeout or you weren't flow? We had a fight. And in those funny because later we wound up. Kind of drink in the Saint place. Now, see him up there. You You know. know, we later had a reckoning and he had an in. If I remember correctly, I feel that he admitted his wrongness. And I might have admitted a little bit of my wrongness for responding and such a strong way to his criticism. But I feel still today feel like if you're have you're eating lunch. In not fishing that you do not have a legitimate claim on the whole, how do you feel about that? Yeah. The guides perspective. It's going to depend a lot of probably on how much pressures on the river, you know. I mean, if you like a river, were you've been waiting for two hours. You haven't seen a person and then you got, you know, all the mid water past their boat. That's kind of like it's like, sounds like this spot you might as well, just skip it and kind of move on as much for your own personal experience. A lot like there is a lot like this spot, actually. I agree with us on this. Really? Yeah, I was in the wrong. I think you were to. I'll always somebody spun. I'm gonna say if it was a busy river mill, then willing around knowing around probably skip that one, Steve, I think if you're in a boat and you're floating down, you're like, okay. You're here. We're going to have lunch. Then we're gonna finish this whole. And if it's a trout stream, you know, you'd count just letting it rest. Maybe a boat went through your letting rest. If you're going to have lunch, they're like, you're kinda claiming that run for a period of time. I think I think at minimum it would have been worth it. Hey, you mind, fish this rats thing. You just got, hey, can I? It's like when you get when you walk up to where you wanna fish, there's a guy in there. Do you mind if I step in really then you're -cation man. The problem solve we're doing about that. Jim, jeez, I don't know your guide. Never guys. Definitely guided timing. No, sir. I probably would have just asked or there's lots of holes I would want. I wouldn't want an audience. I just keep moving, but that's just me what it didn't contest him causing a scene at the same time if he was. Yeah. Reconsider because obviously scarred me because I bring it up. All sounds like this is something from way go. I have ended up my wife yet this how long ago? This was really? Yeah. I mean, they're so there. There's a couple of if this was also a place where you were walking in and then there's a vote. That's true. Is that true? I was walking in and they had about they're in a boat. Hey, I'm a lowly Walker. That's different too because they have the ability to fish this whole century ever. And you're like, man, I just hiked a mile and a half like this is where I was planning factor like, you know, and if that's well known place where people do hike into, never stop there to have much. Sizzle guide, so could be completely very circumstantial, cooling all this. I'm ready to move on tablecloths you got anything at unserved perch because we still need to talk about today, which was lights out the top days. I've ever experienced my entire life to like the most gorgeous day I've ever had on the Washington coast. It is concluding thought on. I, I, I. I would do it again. You know the winter I had so much fun. Anytime I go back out there right now. We have the time. Go make take a few pokes. Let me tell you why it's better than the winter. In my opinion, this is why this is why clam digging is nice. It's a winter spring thing is when you're out there in the winter. It's like you're out there and you're so happy that there's something going on because it's time of year nothing's going on..
AP News in Brief at 12:04 a.m. EDT
"I'm rita foley with an ap news minute porn star stormy daniels has been arrested at a strip club in ohio accused of letting patrons toucher in violation of the law peter struck the fbi agent who sent antitrump text messages will appear before lawmakers this morning and say his work has never been tainted by political bias ben thomas reports from washington he says he did in fact no information during the campaign that could have damaged trump but never contemplated leaking it the emmy nominations will be announced this morning the talk is some cast members of the canceled sitcom roseanne may be among the nominees president trump leaves brussels and the nato summit for britain this morning where he'll meet later with the queen he's tweeting that the us subsidizes european nations that don't pay enough for their own defence papa john's founder john schneider has resigned after apologizing for using a racial slur during a conference call i'm rita foley the crack of a stake in a faint whimper in the darkness was all it took missoula county sheriff's deputy roth jessica was about to take another step when he looked down to find a cold wet soiled five month old boy base down under a pile of debris miracle.
In the San Francisco Bay Area, 'low income' is six figures
"You can trust on the tens matt mccoy sports josh cease executive producer what are you company and all the other end of the phones each afternoon when you call remember when a six figure salary meant you were doing pretty well i mean you you had achieved something it's still does mean that in most places but i will tell you there is no flipping way you could get me live in the bay area of california and i love that city to visit a been there twice i've been been through the prison and the tour and i it's beautiful but it is so nasty and so many other ways i think i'd rather make thirty five thousand dollars a year live in bozeman montana then make one hundred and fifty thousand lebanon san francisco bozeman montana is a gorgeous place so's missoula and so's helena but in san francisco get a load of this according to their cbs television affiliate k pix five you know what's considered a low income salary in san francisco in three counties in san francisco san mateo and marin county california your officially poor if you make below one hundred seventeen thousand four hundred dollars according to the latest survey by hud the median income in those three counties tops the entire country and it is so high that households making under one seventeen four would actually qualify to live in low income housing projects is that not astounding that's nuts you can take what you make now and you'd need to make slightly twice as much here are out there whatever you're making here double it and you still might not quite be where you are here that's even worse than new york oh it's well i don't know i don't think it is really because in new york you have stupid city and even more stupid state tax in new york i think the amount of money for every dollar you make i think you get a keep forty eight cents that's the last time i california doesn't have a state tax so we have that going for him but i was just amazed at that figure that number by the way has gone up ten percent since just last year there people are fleeing like rats off a boat i out of out of the bay area for for many reasons but that's certainly probably near the top that in the homeless out there will practically cost you if you keep walking with their with their hands around we haven't even gotten to openly peeing in the street so well that's your saturday night woody rate for me yeah not in my back y'all cal arts yeah it's my house sorry for the confusion traffic and weather every ten minutes on the tens powered by.
Deep State Freaks Out After Trump Slams “Criminal Deep State”
"Afternoon atlanta's most accurate and dependable forecast is straight ahead a narrow brush with death for to georgia man on a hunting trip to montana georgia hotter is jesse gounon and jason lewis escaped when their suv went into the solway river in the area of missoula montana officials recovered the suv but they haven't found the other four hunters who were in the georgia van are back home safe in georgia breaking news i i this is w sp twenty four hour continuing news the fbi special agent in charge of the atlanta office has died cheryl castro reports it's from complications after the terror attacks in two thousand one during the september eleventh terror attacks david levalley was a first responder at the world trade center the fbi says lavelli spent several weeks being exposed to contaminants there and that he died saturday in the line of duty as a direct result of his work at the site lavallee had been serving at the fbi's atlanta office since 2016 cheryl castro wsb president trump signed executive orders friday addressing the role of unions in the federal workforce they make it easier to fire workers by cutting back on what the white house called taxpayer funded union time used to prepare and pursue grievances wsb's top national story a special homecoming ceremony at the white house last night it celebrated venezuela's release of a utah man jailed nearly two years on what the us calls trumped up charges joshua hold and president trump i'll share here an emotional moment when they met so grateful for what you guys have done in thinking about mean getting i don't know person so it it really touches me and i thank you been very brave actually even credibly heavy so what was happening inside of that prison the president and hold met at the.
Giuliani: Trump would have had Cohen pay off more women 'if necessary'
"The news you need from the people you trust komo news were there other stormy daniels the question put to new team trump attorney rudy giuliani giuliani making a stunning statement that there may be more payments to other women michael cohen make payments to other women for the president have no knowledge of that but i i would think if it was necessary yes attorney for stormy daniels michael vanity firing back the president had effectively extramarital affair slush fund stormy herself taking a shot at the president making a surprise appearance on nasa now and issuing a warning abc's tear appel mary to new fishers have opened up the kilowatt volcano on hawaii's big island lava from the volcano was destroyed twenty six structures believed to be homes eighteen hundred people evacuated western montana bracing for flooding could be the worst and more than forty years missoula county officials say the clark fork river by tuesday could approach major flood stage for the first time since nineteen seventy five richard cantu abc news the northwest only allnews station komo news one thousand fm ninety seven seven good evening at seven thirty one i'm kelly blair with the top local stories from the komo twenty four seven news center operations are now back.