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Orcas on May: Southern Residents Greensplain the Election

Skaana | Orcas and Oceans Podcast

02:47 min | 1 year ago

Orcas on May: Southern Residents Greensplain the Election

"Hi Mark Learn young in this special skin. The public service announcement. It's election time in Canada. So we wanted to let the endangered southern orcas share their thoughts on Elizabeth me and the Green Party of camp The Green Green party platform makes no mention to the plight of the southern residents but it does feature to really pretty pictures of orcas including one that looks like maybe the photo from the cover of my book. The killer whale who changed the world so bonus points for that. They're only official. Whale policy is about go skier and nasty nets. Both which are really bad things quote trolling. Trolling gears destroyed fish habitat and trap and longlines quite extreme entanglement hazards for whales sea turtles seabirds and other species. They're also also on board with a cone commission report and our friend Alexander Morton featured on a previous episode of skin it down now for more on the southern resident orcas and what you can do to help them. Survive and thrive and check out. Every party's platform check out our show notes and check out my new book or because everywhere available now in stores everywhere work hi I'm rainbow new producer of the orcas notion podcasts. Scana with Mark Sharon young. And I'm here today to tell you that if you like what we're doing and you want to help support the southern resident ORCA population. Then please subscribe subscribe. Thanks so much for your support everyone and hey let's make waves sure.

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1031: One Daily Gratitude Ritual that Will Change the Way You Think by Marc Chernoff of Marc And Angel

Optimal Living Daily

09:03 min | 3 years ago

1031: One Daily Gratitude Ritual that Will Change the Way You Think by Marc Chernoff of Marc And Angel

"This is optimal living daily episode, ten thirty one one daily gratitude ritual that will change the way you think by Mark chernoff of Mark and angel dot com. And I'm just a mollusc the guy review every single day of the year, including weekends and holidays. Tell you optimize your life. Today's post being from Mark of Mark and angel before we get to it. Thank you too. Simple life nutrition for their support, their company that provides organic vegan Moringa Olea for products which are super nutritious. I'll tell you more about that after the article for now he can visit simple life nutrition dot com to learn more about the benefits and optimal living. Daily listeners get fifteen percent off their first order with a code old fifteen again that simple life nutrition dot com and the code. Oh, l. d. fifteen. So let's get right to it as we optimize your life. One daily gratitude ritual that will change the way you think by Mark Sharon off of Mark and angel dot com. I remember that rainy summer evening shortly after angel, and I lost to loved ones to illness, lost our livelihood in a layoff and ultimately lost sight of the goodness remained in our lives. When I found myself lying down on tile floor alone in the dark, just thinking angel and I rarely spoke openly about anything meaningful during that period of time. Mostly because by was withdrawn, I felt helpless and essentially depressed about what had happened. I was lost in the darkness of my own negative thinking, but something shifted in sign me as Alza lying on that tile floor. As I looked up and out the open window. Next, to me, the moon suddenly broke through the clouds and eliminated the dark room. I was in then within seconds, a light breeze star blowing the white window, curtains inward. And over me as occurrence fluttered in the air for feet over my body. I smiled it was a beautiful moment and without thinking twice, I whispered out loud life is still a miracle. To be grateful for angel walked into the room at that exact moment and whispered. I agree. She ducked under the currents and snuggled into me on the floor after a couple of moments of shared silence, we decided to list on things off the top of our minds that we are grateful for. Despite our struggles, our list of gratitude, look something like this. We had each other. We had parents extended family and some friends who loved us. We were reasonably healthy. Most of our family members and friends were reasonably healthy. We had some savings. We had shelter, water and food. We could experience and appreciate the beauty of the moonlight illuminating this dark room and the breeze making the current stance and the list went on. Of course, you get the gist even when everything seemed to be wrong. We had a lot going writes a lot to be grateful for that night. I resolved to change my thinking. It may gratitude daily ritual in my life, a gratitude ritual, a new. Effective nowadays, I spend twenty minutes every evening, focusing my thoughts exclusively on what I am grateful for and why I call it. My gratitude meditation does may seem like a trivial cliche practice Assam people. I'm here to tell you that is not at all trivial and as cliche as it may seem at first a ritual like this changes lives. He's what has changed in my life. Gradually as I've practiced my ritual of gratitude, I appreciate angel more until her so which has openly deepen our relationship by opening the gates to a more vulnerable and honest line of communication. I appreciate my extended family and close friends more because I pay closer attention to their positive qualities. I have grown kinder to everyone around me and kinder to myself too because ever placed many of my old needless judgments with simple appreciation, little frustrations bother me less because I complain less. I need less to be happy b.'s. I'm being present and sincerely appreciate. Sheeting. What I already have. I noticed life's simple pleasures in little moments more than I ever had before working through life's inevitable adversities has grown easier because instead of focusing on how painful everything is, I find gratitude and joy in the small steps of progress I make every day and this list goes on and on. But the important thing to realize is that all of these changes are incredibly positive and powerful. The arch, right? And they're far from being a cliche. My focus on graduate is fundamentally changed the way I think an live in the most incredible way imaginable. So what's the easiest way to create a daily ritual of gratitude in your life? Here's a super simple five minute daily gratitude ritual that has worked wonders for hundreds of our core students over the past decade. And before I worked my way up to a twenty minute gratitude meditation does where I started to every evening before you go to bed right down three things that went well during the day and their causes simply provide a show. Short causal explanation for each good thing. That's it. We spend tens of thousands of dollars on expensive electronics, big homes, fancy cars and lavish vacations, hoping for abused of happiness and positively. This is a simple free alternative in works. If you begin this ritual today, you just might be looking back on today. Many years from now as the day, and when your whole life changed note angel and I build little life-changing rituals like this with our students and the goals and growth module of getting back to happy. And if you need some extra inspiration reflect on these powerful gratitude mantras sometimes on the hardest of days, my still have a tough time mustering up enough positive energy to focus on things to be grateful for when this happens, a review, my notes on gratitude, the perspectives and lessons I've learned over the years that I've documented in various archived blog posts. And now our book I called these notes, my gratitude mantras an. On those days when everything seems to be going wrong, I will read through them and reflect on them for as long as it takes for me to find a source of gratitude. My pass these modules onto you in hopes that you will find refuge in them as well. Repeat them to yourself and reflect on them in those dark moments when you've lost track of what you have to be grateful for one when life gives you every reason to be negative. Think of one good reason to be positive. There's always something to be grateful for to the greatest secret to happiness and peace is letting every life situation be what it is. Is that of what you think it should be and then making the very best of it angel. And I discussed his further in the happiness. Chapter of one thousand little things, happy successful. People do differently three choose to smile today by taking life moment by moment, complaining very little and being thankful for the little things that mean a lot for, no, you won't always get what you want. But remember this, there are lots of. Who will never have what you have right now. Five happiness comes a lot easier when you stop complaining about your problems and he started being grateful for all the problems. You don't have six, never let all the things you want. Make you forget about all the things you have today focus on exactly what you have, not what you haven't and seven be grateful for your life for your health, your family, your friends, and your home. Many people don't have these things. You just listened to the post titled one daily gratitude ritual that will change the way you think by Mark chernoff of Mark and angel Darcom in today's world. Something that I forget to be grateful for is nutrition is tough for me when I'm working every day of the week and simple life. Nutrition is a company that provides organic in vegan marina Olea for products. I've heard a lot about moranga also known as a miracle tree is been featured by the New York Times, the Huffington Post the Discovery Channel and more because his extremely nutritious with over two dozen vitamins and minerals. All nine essential amino acids and over forty known antioxidant compounds. I've tried it. I've had the t multiple times, and the first thing I noticed is smells delicious right after opening of the package also prized and it tastes great of the pomegranate and original flavors of the t- try it out, visit simple life, nutrition dot com to learn more about how moranga can benefit your nutritional needs. And support your overall wellness pop them living daily listeners get fifteen percent off the first order with the code old fifteen plus a dollar for every sale with that code will be donated to feed the children, which is a nonprofit helping feed malnourished children again that simple life nutrition dot com. And the code is, oh, l. d. fifteen. I'll leave it there for today. Hope you have your gray day and I'll be back tomorrow for minimalist Monday where your optimal life awaits.

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Ep 206: Big Glizzy

Bodega Boys

2:23:35 hr | 1 year ago

Ep 206: Big Glizzy

"Data Voice. Yeah listen ball bags, boy billy Paschal leak you'll you know me I am here to announce that I am resigning as ahead head of the NYPD. Police Union. because. This city doesn't deserve these brave people. Okay, your treat us like garbage. You don't give a free donuts anymore. Sometimes when I flashed the lights to go through the intersections. You don't move your piece of crap. Honda's yourself you know fed up. We're not gonNA affect me. I don't need this. I got a nice luxury estate up in Westchester. Yes, yes, near Rich Hill okay. I look better than you. People. Ten minutes from the apple store pt, either what the city can help all right I, hope they burn it down and you know who I mean by them. Anyway, I am passing legacy art to the Michael Jordan of the NYPD. This guy is up and coming stuttered watching him. We used to work together way back in the day. You know what I'm saying. His his forged his nickname was a certain slur that you can't say anymore. Because everything's PC, he was certain cracker, but you know. Without anymore anymore introduction! Give it up for captain. Talk just. From your. Name. This I. Tell Him you. Guys for a long time. I feel like I. Finally arrived. Tell captain prudhoe! To it captain? Joan I haven't been going. I feel I feel wonderful today and guess what assholes is a new sheriff in town. Right so if you want a little Jackson whatever todd, you're talking to the right guy? Back. Change around. Right and that Pussy de Blasio. He's got no truce all right to choose now. Mattie. Out of him, so what we're going to do is we're GONNA we're, GONNA WE'RE GONNA, do some different curfews. What. Every everyday's could be a different thing Monday I decide when you go home Tuesday. I decide when you go home. Wednesday. It's Hump Day solid. You can only take the train up. That's these. Guys I laced, Guy Yeah curve again. All right. Take back to the ninety S. you know what I mean like I wanNA bring up a nice graphic in my back in the back here for my people. This guy right here is a hero to me. He's he's a New York icon alleged. Best Administrative People. We've ever had in history of New York. Rudolph Giuliani rule. That's right, brody. Just photo. He's not here because he's. He doesn't really. It doesn't really give a shit. He's very opportunistic and he's kind of like a Griffeth, but you know that's neither here, nor there for what I came here to do is announced my new position, and also that this is episode two. Oh, six of the mother fought. PODCAST? I. It's like My. Freshman. It's the most amazing podcast in the world. Mason Hey, talk about it in so to six. Boys the most podcast in the. which has been under heavy scrutiny investigation by myself I've been following a bit hat on tail for. and. Up Down with the RICO law. They're going to be catchy, two and three all right. I'M GONNA flip. Flop check. So make some fucking noise for number two. Oh six! The most of the world I'm out here. I'm talking to my mind. Do the fuck dropped? Listening to the Audio Art, the most dangerous podcast in the universe. From Milk Studios, do the drop. You're fucking. Sick. The most luxurious podcasts in the road and also. I might have to speak for myself here. Currently be podcast with the thickest cubes due to quarantine all right. I just I'm funky like all full disclosure. I I would have been. If I wouldn't say two days ago out of sheer disgust. I was like. Like. Know, what I respect my partner announce it'd be like you know what I know that you do not Wanna put your face near a hairy ass cock, so I'm GonNa do some manscaping. You know what I'm saying and take. Care of you know what I'm saying. Episodes. This episode two Oh six. In thirty second to this fucking podcast, we talking about partners, putting their face nick tax oh we back vade. As sparce black cash APP. Fuck all the other APPS. Casualties the best casual. If you don't have is the best cash transfer gap if you don't use cash, strapped your Corny, because all the rappers namedrop cash as the APP of choice, so if you do you know what I'm saying, if you're not racking righty rich and the baby bells, guys, you're square. Well yes. But also the square cashew owns cash APP so. In this context is not A. Euro squares. SEGUE. To like happy days. FUCKING Happy days. This is weird because I. Actually I never watch happy days. There was a guy that I hit jukebox. It was like A. Also I don't know if that was happy days or that was when we grew up in the Bronx, and there were still mad Italians so. Also in the country club there was sixteen the on your block eight. Yeah, A. Thinking also as you just brought about able to. Determine stepping repeat is able this they all. Right I. Think about it. About if you think about it, you know a lot of you're not. You're like Yo. They got Dickie. Raleigh there ain't. Didn't. Like the whole world is like black lives matter black lives. And Black. People who don't die. She was like you know what I do not believe that trend's women women. Why? Why are you fade? Man Like fan like diving into the fucking middle of the be level me. Because you. Must Be. She did the movement like a friend, so she's on corporate. You pray Mike. Mike I want to talk about. You know if women are legitimate, you know. Talk about the Yankees but I. Also, all women menstruate. What the? That was a very Like, oh, delete twitter, now as you just pointed out the Yankees. Apparently, they were caught cheating. You know what? I mean there's. I mean. Speculation especially. I feel like she. It helps us for so I. don't care. Is literally literally had the save covers shot the Monday Jimmy. I had the same wind today. I was like Bro. Because people are making like you know how people bordering sports, so like all time best or whatever and shot the Guy Chris who made like a? Best like baseball list, and there's a lot of dudes from like the forties and fifties, and whatever and I'm just like. Like really I was like papers, really the best rightfielder of all time dog. You're right like we did. He tell us see steaks, and we've just always been always ever questioned it. and. You're like okay because you were there and. We're going to do in the future. We're telling people about how Derek, jeter ran and dove, he does up to row Z to cattle fowl. You understand that 'cause knows and his orbital soccer and played eight more innings easily easily. Easily the big media doesn't want you to see that so Philly philly ankle break game is going to turn into like the Willis Reed, slash Derek. jeter broke his ankle, but he still played seven more annex. Broken Ankle. Four home runs. We have to make more money, so we can make really long ESPN eight documentaries or insignificant things that happened Yankee. Games I want to do does an eight part series about Johnny Damon stealing a base in the world series. League. Grounds crew going to interview the person that sold the baseball said it's GONNA be. The one time they played the mets. Luis Castillo dropped pop up in the night. WHOA WHOA. That's a that's a twenty part series within the company name Podcast K.. We, we reached that to lose because the opening. He's not available for comment. We. That's come out here. We don't say that in. The final five minutes of the hope documentary. It was what the fuck now he just didn't want be like. What do. We got historic cousin though like you. His cousin Felipe A. Jose, he. He's a plumber Jose. How do you feel about him dropping the ball? You know I caught in the next day. I say Dan man you dropped the ball, man, what the fuck and they say I. Don't give a fuck. I reach and that will see. The Piano Music in the background like pass slow. A slow. Dropping the ball mad slow agree scale. Sharon road. People Overlook. Mark Sharon is fucking chugging around the basis. This game is over Budgie. You could have just walked back to the Doug. The hedgehog around the. Said He. He felt the nut was covering, and he was like. You know what I'm leaving it all. All in this interval, okay? nasty. O freaky. A little too much beer. Yeo's. Announcement. I don't usually do personal life announcements Oh my God. The Day has finally come Oh. Shit, you know. I'm getting older. I looked around and I said Jesus. You gotTA. Do the right thing. So I went to the supermarket. You know what I saw there. LACTATE may sour cream. And say. I say that as a sour cream lactose intolerant fancy. You guys can't see. MIRA was doing the walk right now. He's Milly Rockin because I know a man. Miro cream right right. Isn't it so good? Role. Can't have I. don't I don't feel right having any Mexican dish without right, because think about all the meals you have that it comes on the side and if you have the mill case. You know what I'm saying. You're not having a kick without sour cream. You decide having a hassle sauce for all of us. And wildest part coming through, and I try to. You know how usually like products lactose reading, they taste where it's the same thing and hockey on. The side is I you'll we did that. We got rid of the enzymes how? How you feel. One. What's? Out to the guy at Western beef was putting on the shows because I, was like did this come out? He was like Oh. This came out him like he was mad. Excited to take. You. On March. He was right. Bad this is a game changer. This is a gauge eating, Nachos? You already taken a risk with the cheese. You fuck it I'll what I'm die on the beach of D Day. Eat the nachos with the sour cream. For now now. Now now is just a tease. We gotTA worry about. We can handle fifty percent less eight elite. Good right? We good, we go. There's going to be yes, what's the difference between? Anal leakage. 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That's how it is cool. Cool frontier! Nobody really got trapped clubbed on a blog. Fuck! Now we go right out. Better. Better as like when you start explaining to someone so to nobody in particular in the room how the game is! Going to have them Campos Reload Matt flow does. Lips that I don't make no sense that'll make. Twice and then on my kill came so's. We hadn't even put my gun how that. I hit jeep. You know what I'm saying I. Hit the ATV with Zucca. They wrote away. How. How? How? How? Solid contact sorta hit mark what happened? How you feel. Everyone's like wow, they feel very strongly about these. How do you feel about the little boy? The PS five that dropped. Out because you're already. You're already playstation person, right? I'm xbox I'm both I'm. Constantly console, fluid. Around the. Theo, say I like switch. Switch on xbox. Poly. Poly you gotta you gotTa. You gotta add. Could you gotta add that to your you're? PROBABLY CONSULATES! That me. Yeah, he's mad woke. No He. He clearly wears toe rings. Doda. Say you know you got three hundred Pinto? But not the only that me that has been hype about it. Is that like you know how used to be like every time you? A new council came out and like you had twenty games from your old console the garbage pail. But, now they're, they're the peers. Five supposedly is backwards compatible to. And the xbox too is like doing the same shape back to xbox three sixty S. I was just like Oh. Shit negative all these games I've been collecting dust and actually enjoy playing and play the shit instead of connecting twenty eight different fucking devices in my crew. SMART. Shaky and I'm like Oh. I call the cable company I'm like it was good and they're like sir. How many devices do you have on the Wifi your house? I was like Don't worry about that. The! Shortages as you how many laptops I had and I was just like four. And that's the problem right there. She's like the wife Right now. Yeah, that's a file. Your files smart. All. When we in here there was shit like that was mismatch or whatever and. You, know. What New Crib, let's clean slate. You know what I'm saying. My POPs guy in Paterson. You know what I'm saying Shit. The full of the truck so I was like fucking. Shit fell off the truck and. Ex You know what I'm saying retail and for this. is given to me for a buck fifty addition. You know what I mean you feel. Is it voice activated. Now is this it's. Like you can control it like remotely. It's matter necessary. That's like my POPs old, the dude, a fridge that had TV in it and I was like why why? Why do you need the TV in your fridge? Like who I know you stand up on your fridge and like think about what you want like. Not. Not. Not Not in my experience I got nothing Emma, Fridge. Opening of openness go half a cheese like a like baking Soda Damn. Can't live like this, but no okay inventories all here. That's cool little. I don't need that I don't need overall control for my microwave, but now I'm thinking. Do I not need it because I've never had it. And that's what and that's the thing. I might need it. That's eight I like. I forgot the name of the They make faucets, maybe a colour or some shit like that. They just came out with the show. You Got Cova. You don't WanNa have to touch. The faucets ought voice activated faucets said I was like. Okay I'm like that's A. That's that's let's Jada Kiss Organ. Early two thousands. My Basset Liftoff Y'all got voice activated false it. Yeah, yeah, can't. Say. For Ten years me and you okay player in different stuff like this is one of the most ridiculous rap lyrics ever. Voice Activated Faucets Not Likely Jada Kiss. Right imagine. Bathroom that was three sixty this whole time. He just never showed it because we canceled MTV cribs. Wow what? What if he got it done just to TD CRIBS? Also you know what after from having been real home home ownership. Three sixty rotating wolves sounds like such a nuisance that sounds like so much Chicago wrong. Like. What if it doesn't lock in place? On the left wall is. Okay, you know, Wall, company. How often lubricate the gears? How about that? What does my cat gets behind? The Wall was. Is there like something to stop it. Is there a sensor gay? That's that's why I got scared of the garage door. 'CAUSE I. I never had a garage door before right now. Like what if the kids run of the garage? It's GONNA kill. Show, obviously somebody thought of that before because the shouldn't stop. It's like it's like an. Who? is about to be a Brownie Brittle. Let's say if you go on live leak and you're gonNA garage doors. Videos. Videos that have like you know well park on the street I. What S Cool? I'll just get a ticket. I'm good I'll call in. It's all good, yeah. Blah Blah Blah this play. This is cool. This is cool, baby doe, speaking of parking. Like life. Long New Yorkers FEM. Build the blasios is a fucking as fame. How do you how and talk about? Read the room. You've made it comes out. He's like no New Yorkers are in a bind right now, and it's tough for you guys so in order to help you out. I'm going to spend alternate side parking. For the month of July. Thank you. was like that's he should. That'd be mere he's. He's at this way. You talk about New Yorkers don't like the BLASIO. NYPD NYPD doesn't like the Bozzetto for somebody. Like that holding hands, fists me NYPD, and like its citizen in New York's New Yorkers. The mayor is really fucking like if you hear some audio, it's like the BLASIOS gotta go. It's like black lives matter rally. NYPD graduation could be old coup. PLOTS IOS and if you look at his. Track record like the. Pizza, saying the fact that he's a red sox fan like brought so many red flags early on opening. Why do we want to realize when he? Hog remember that we caught a body in, and he tried to cover it up. See to replace early dog. You see corruption okay. and. It's funny because I didn't even vote for that motherfucker dog. I voted for Bill Thompson. Thompson remember him. Remember. It was supposed to be Christine Quinn, but then she had to. Fund and wow. Welcome to the Home Depot. Slash political boys You offer NPR we have group radio yield Bloomberg radio. I'll even know if. That's definitely the pathmark Radio Jingle recipes pathmark. Bay Plaza used to be used used to hold us down of talking about it was. arranged. was at like the one used to go to which. Bro that was that was like minded. That was a little nugget. 'cause I have five fair right next to my crib, and but then like there was no like big supermarket, except the Pozo like nicotine had to go there all the time, and like that pathmark was wild because it was it fucking huge. These birds in that shit like. And it was. It was also twenty four hours so. You go there like four am y'all. This is what. We used to pull up ice to give my mom's like y'all mark. He wants kids. Margaret 'cause Saturdays Sundays was hectic, because everybody from go out is coming in there, and it's my deepen their. State City and you remember how people used to feel about Bay Plaza they will back in the day. Open. The way people would check you for coming through their projects cost people. You say Yo, Yo, we. Mamane sex you from Yogi up sub. Valley right? Okay, first of all beef with Valley got nothing to do with me. I'm not from Valley. I'm not. Being when they're, they're like. Why are you even be fair? You know about sexual fought. You'll know about coop at valley beefing and explain it and I'm like. See y'all fighting over pedestrian bridge over ninety. Oh. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, that's okay, okay? I'll just go back. Houses I'll see you later. Over. Eating raw. Final pedestrian bridge, but they used to get in not disrespecting you know. Legendary. A and that's how it is, and people don't get new. York. If you don't understand New York, gang, Politics Watch warriors. For. A brief. You need to watch you could. You Could Watch warriors or you can watch the twenty part series that Mia mirrow are producing on the valley coop city beef. It's yes, you know liability by Slick Rick. Okay okay now you just give away game for free. START! The section to don't. Dope. Right, you're just kind of really stretching the lyrics. Rick. Bars it's been years my guy. Doing that. Now. We're doing that. There was like twenty years i. who who s like Rick so very popular? He was a popular rapper when I was young. Why don't know about? That's not the Jiffy Lube Mascot Guy. You should as. Is that like. Is He from Sesame Street? Is that. Is that the count? I'm like that's not the cow. That's rick. Shoe! One children's story to story. Do Discovery. Relax. Allies. have. You said you gotta come to. You gotTA. You gotTA. You know what allegedly I'm not saying. Any I'm not telling anyone to do any crimes, but right now if you're store in New, York still has plywood on it. That means you probably did not have a relationship with the community, and you're so scared and it would be ashamed if people I don't know started tagging. Tie would. Maybe, maybe maybe table David Boies tag up here. Boys. This you're saying. You're the wildest shit is I've been hit by people Kebab is so scared of the rotor that I'm just like yeah. I'm coming I'm coming. I'm coming out and I. Don't Ya. Isn't that SMART? That's very smart. Trusted believe like I got a little. Can Zip around the streets and stuff, but we found outside is wild like. you in order to go outside, you gotta be around people who were not wearing masks. They don't give a shit about shit so. What's even purpose of being out there? on, protecting you. Bahamas off fuck. Like I'm doing solid. You Fuck you. Fuck you. Look at this guy to focus mask also hurt nerd. You guys have injuries. You have the the reveals scooters. Little Blue and black drawings. Oh not over here. Bro. Free I don't know they probably. 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And then after that a certain network of ours found out that there was a hubbard onset and realized that is a huge insurance lullaby liability. We've got some stupid memo about. Don't bring hover boards. was like it wasn't us like. Why don't you guys know this? Whatever. Whatever. So. We gotta get all our money together. Because one of our friends, who is close to the podcast is going through some near and dear times. His name is Chuck Entertainment Cheese. Oh. Man there one billion dollars in debt. They might close, they might. Cases brought my kids. We'd be devastated. What can we do? Go. Cheese. Chuck like that stress. What say his head? Of The do twenty cigarettes. Favorite Pizza. Papa John's. John. How Much Papa John? Got Papa John is worth hold on can. Oh, he's only he's only worth five hundred MIL so. They're a billion dollars in debt. I mean yeah like how. Well okay. You gotta explain to me because I don't got kids like house in my head in my head, okay? 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You're buying a pizza. You buying a card for the kids to play with. What I'm saying and that's GONNA. Run you around like thirty forty fifty dollars off, rip okay. Mock is will run around motherfucker like for two hours, so I gotta get like the ninety minute card and shit like I Louis. A smooth seventy dollars. So wait. A ninety minute card is like unlimited and. I! Think might have fucked them up because. To paid for play, and now you can get a ninety minute card for like I think twenty, seven, ninety nine at some bullshit like that, so they think their head like Oh. These kids are going to tired. Now Bro you. You'RE GONNA put. You'RE GONNA. Give me some limited in the hood. You don't you give limited because we're GONNA unlimited. I think it was a dave and buster's. I came to Palisades more than out there if he was going on dates. They're all right. Relax, relax relax. Data Dave and busters I don't know if you said the tone right. You know what I'm saying. 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It's like you know what the cash it just to be careful just to be safe to do both just you know you never know and then also figure like this like if they are going to some of the overeat. SIP now. They got the direct cash so right now like you got got. The right now. It also you could go get some weed. You'll get wraps you go get. A bottle you know what I'm saying like. You don't have to wait for the credit card. Process of the send you the check and shit like that. You know what I'm saying you know. Nothing's better than cash. Bro, nothing is better. Pro Casual Risen. Everyday I believe remember remember Obama, said that cashews everything of Romney all right. Dollar the other, Bill? and that's why we have to make. America great again. Okay, we got. Now we got a good rappers. It's like a like a Candice Owens so. She watches hair. Irish spring was apparently hid because they were Madison, and now they want us to be like. What do they debate her? You'll get the five. That's the thing onto it. If people ask me like dig about this guy, remember. Twitter is like a New York City high school. If you are about to have a fight with someone and they're like I, don't WanNA fight. which you debate me, you know, happens you know this thing. They get punched in the jaw. DEBATE OUT HIS The. Guy. Over there like Oh, this applica- knock you down a flight of stairs. I, seen as he pitches a better person, I'm like God. I was like I'm really. I'm like like I. Feel like I said it before, but I. Have like a tag. Match me you vs Ben Shapiro Tucker Carlson. Like I, feel like we will wash them, we would. But they would sue the. And then people would be like. Oh, look. They're like violent savages dog. I. Savage Squad Your Guy Gang. You know it. Because they is an insult to us, is I? have. Excuse me that my AOL signature all an. Insurgency Messenger, okay. Around the ship so. My Name. My name was Jay z NAS savage two thousand. Bro super-duper shot to the movement because. I never in my entire life thought that I would see. A political movement. Make, NASCAR SAY YO we're not to be like chill racism. Also, that was a big. Move It. Twitter comments never watched NASCAR GIN. That's We have some of the lowest ratings we've had in years, so fuck Ya. Not. That's about to get rid. Urban, friend if you know what I'm saying or you like this said why. WHERE NASCAR starts the first race with Mary, J., Blige, singing the national anthem go. To. Different. We love to Pakistan Hennessy car. Closely by Jose Sixty nine Newport car follow behind. CAROL'S DAUGHTER CALL A. Major. Nascar about the essence fest. site. Change the rules tailgating play futures. He's GONNA, be like! They ruin NASCAR. After every twenty laps gotta do Goddamn Cupid Shuffle Though I. A flag. Everyone who stand. Out to the to the stands. Kick. Also like Oh you hate to. Do you hate to see this in honor of Dale Earnhardt? They are doing a swag surf. 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Is when they broke into the fucking thing to steal barrels of some chemical that they needed to make like the blow one on the train. Yeah, he was after that I was just like. People like Geez. You Miss when they blew up the nursing home. I'm like did I. Miss it or did it and I saw enough. When they melted home in the bathtub I, I was I was I was doing cool things and my schedule just didn't allow for that. So, how do you feel how you feel? How do you feel how you? Could out to Rockstar who we were sitting there watching the five relief video and super cast they had to. Go last go! How are you guys like five on the last Carso? Back. And they're like you feel like your shit. And he started this show I feel I. Rocks thus thought of that wave of like. Yo. Yeah! We're going to give you this massive game. And we'RE NOT GONNA make another one of these ships for five years, but we're going to give you this like other like mini game within a game I is the future video games often. Because they basically it was. Compatibility and shit is kind of like. They made an operating system. Whereas now you just go to so much other stuff there, but then you got so many hackers and stuff on. There is not fun to just go on, and even a couple of days, not recently, but there was. A period with the hackers were so bad they were hacking into the single player campaign back home, but like fail come on. Come on like. Single if I'm playing single player is because I am cyber innovate and I feel nervous. On the INTERWEB. Zoom Bemidji TA. Just driving your radio station start changing. Your five came out and. They will use. Twenty thirteen. It was on I. Think it was the last thing for PS. Three. Actually people remember the reboot ps four, but it was the last thing he has three and also to be on PS, five and twenty twenty one. I remember having it for. So No, they rented. But then rockstars I first of all. We're making madman. You're still playing it. 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Now you play for a regular game, and unless you've been playing like unless of your casual player, your game Max's are like thirty two points of dirty. You're like what the fuck what. What. Thirty the more mellow. She'll fade away because I'm like. I was playing the show last night and I'm like him. I know that this is like you have to do a certain motion with the joysticks. Dunk and hit the turbo so I'm like okay. I've been doing this and I'm like I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing it and now working through these soft layups. Who does that many layoffs, but computer driving if I'm driving down the lane and I have the opening. Why would I do layup? Why why? Why would I pull for two foot? Jump Shot, okay? It that is one of the most frustrating things video game and one other most frustrating thing and video games is call of duty. If you walk close up, somebody should automatically do Meli move you. If, if this a real life, why would you wait for me like if you're standing right there with a gun I'm standing here right here. I should like it should wait for me to press the button. Committee should smash your face. It made no sense it makes you run into a door and kick the door up, but what can I just run into a? Banger on. Hold I row. Come on, let's think about that. We will realism and call duty right wow. Wow. Issues. Like. We Sido. Keep Turkey people save also people forget like we definitely might be near the target demographic for Corona, so we got such. As people, but then. The Godson like People should have serious. That's why I was like the. For like three months out. They how your kids dealing with it. Have they seen their their? French it. As well, because the neighbors across the street, so they everybody's quarantined everybody. There's Chata. My neighbor at the end of the block. Nurse think give it up for all say healthcare workers. 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Go you know what does it the same? These cash checks I. If is. They're like yeah, okay, we tell my. Grandkids. A real bad for you I don't know I don't know like okay so. I don't know what the is it like a raw numbers thing? Like. Like, this is this is. This is an open question for everybody. Okay, okay, okay we listen to. Is it a raw numbers? Thing why the fuck are people doing music with Akashi? As I. It's like y'all go viral like I'm GonNa. Go you go viral. He did another one would Nikki. Kids the kids Rockwood it, and it's not a thing like the problem is. People are trying to look at it as music at is not as like the best explanation is I- gangs remember like when you were younger. Like the little, and it's like Oh. We all the were all bloods on your blood's up in bloodshed, and like when Jim Jones came out with Bowden at the end when he was like on the dominated out in front of the Bodega, he was like Oh shit your whiplash it so for them streaming. Takashi and Nikki is about if the music is good or not, they're ripping. Against Cardi stands against the Taylor Swift. Day Wanna be like Yo this is the fastest song to have the most streams and twenty four hours which are like what like that's not. That's not to me. Not Accomplish with that's like now. The whistle old white guys. They're called. Mike Francesa and we're like yeah. Wait till the hells. Angels get there. They'll show them. What's what? Yeah I tell you? Why Yeah! Yeah Bro! They're not gonNA put up with any of that like. Like. But those stats like what are they? What are they even mean it's like. A sports game when it's like who's the first guy to hit a home run in fort in the second inning and twenty eight years lie what? Kiss to us. We don't care about that stuff, but if you battle like. If you Ripley Nikki Against Cardi, you could be like Yo. Cardi fake. It was the first female rapper to go number one in Sweden on Thursday I sick. You're like that's not. Really the company. If you get enough of those and you battling, you can throw these accomplish. who is out against another person? Because that's how it works. It's not about Yo. This person got lyrics I. Even, like was there ever a rapper? beefy was like this rappers better because they want platinum. Like No. If anything. You think with or without features. How dare you bring God into this ok? But she called the. God but! The L. Cannabis Beef L. was at a disadvantage because he was the bigger artists. Everyone was writing with cannabis because he was the underdog those days over. So you know what I'm saying. Nikki Nikki didn't get her first number. One album still just recently number one song until just recently, right? Yeah wasn't maybe that's part of it. Yeah. As well, she's never had a number. One Song and I think now that she got it. She was a feature. Was the DOJ? A crash sees work with Takashi. With with does your cat? I was her first leader. I swore you like mad. Number one the way to stays be. 'cause you know what happens is because we saw the twitter bubble. And it's even worse for us because we're not on twitter where we we we deal with the teen. Little kids that like listen to Nikki Knowledge. We are on twitter, and this is progress feathers. We listened to older people. Who Stand Nikki Montage. and. Some of them are too old or not of the. Racial demographic to be quoting her and I'm quoting some of Y'all who furiously when looking at Nikko dropped. I'm just saying somebody hours retreating that a little too out of pocket. You know what I'm saying or some of them you know like if we're GONNA, keep funky a lot of y'all like Anaconda was going to be the song this summer and well you know. What about what was the other? One was magneto or no, it was Remember next Sean. Yeah was supposed to be eight. Yeah, and it's wild because it's like when you set. Very innocently I was like oh I would have rather heard Cardi B. on this song about Xyz. 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Oh jumped on craigslist, trying to get like little gigs and whatever? Found a spot. where it was like a fetish party. And the whole situation was just she was sitting in a throne Andrews just touching her feet. Like, that's it no, Dick. Style no light jerking off. Allowed no like Yo. They had the bounces there on day because she was just a yoga. This dude Outta here there will pick them up armpits or something. So I was just like Yo. How much you get paid tuition. She was just like like I. Don't remember if it was like eight hundred or g, but I was just like you for like two hours and you made that. Can I can I do like, do they? Is there like a guy version of that and that? I looked at my feet again I'm I'm not cut off at. We got this I'm to. I'm to substantive. You've got a new site coming out in victim working on it. It's called big Liz. Basically. Lot It's a lot of US oil up shirtless of. In Big Lizzie. 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This had nothing to do with the protests and it was like Yo. I'm getting mine right now. I'm getting out and it's just like. That, sadly missed a whole protests at back because it was like their violent is, but if you got box, cutters got bolt cutters on the deck. You're actually organized criminal. You know what I'm saying. You're organized. You're not. You're not doing like a breaking not the first time. It is not your first Rodeo. I'm not even sure that might have been over waiting for them outside like. My friend? Right, now you go on your occupied trunk. Pop the trunk. I want, war? SO LOOKING LEGGED NICK! and. Now you uber out of the feature now if you're driver doesn't have a mask on, you can reject the ride and it doesn't affect rating. which is weird because from my balcony I watch people uber's all day without. Massillon and every overdrive I've taken if I had taken over an emergency beefs about people getting their car without Masan. But if they? Should be allowed. I not sure if they can or can't, but I mean like. They're getting so so few rides. Quarantine talking like they're not gonNA. So a lot of them if you've been in the back of they've taken like Saran. Wrap and put it up between like their see and the back, but you know that's not like medical grade sealed. That can only do so. So I see I see. It was funny inside at the same time. I've seen this Dominican. She was like doing Uber She's like Yo. She's a she's like y'all motherfuckers gotta eat out here. Yeah, she had like a shower curtain. Into them the nine nine hundred still shockers plasters. Goes up and I was just saying. I. Don't know if this is going to pass any type of sanitary inspection my book. And then they. Choose their like if you're in the back seat, please roll down the windows and stuff like that, but it's just like like people will be jerks and it is just like it was like. If you'RE NOT GONNA. Win Window down now. You're a Dick Bro if it's like we in the middle of Giambi if you roll the window down because you turn the AC up, let's recirculating my corona virus in the car. Hey. How you doing? Hey We're going up to the ninety second street. Get some nutcrackers. All you fuck out every new. York's the greatest. In the world. I saw a guy. I got cough up phlegm on the street. You though I saw him shot. Somebody like I was so. I got. You can't call the cops because you know. Feeling well defended police. You know I don't know what to do now, but he did that. And I'm like what do you like? They the whole thing the is to keep like particle from dropping. You just spit mucous pancake on the floor. That's going to slowly evaporate for like three weeks. What's wrong with shoe? Dog. And when you? The Dif- different. It's not just a little saliva it's. Like. The fucking bronchials from deep racist spit you know. How do. Yeah. That's the one you gotta learn. 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What the wireless about the is when you when uses shit like that, and then like you know how it gets at the end, you, you can put your initials in. Here just like a and walk away from the machine dasm ex. You like what? You. For that. And then because it's a dramatic movie, you look back and top. are a like. How. You, my man's Tripoli's putting in work over here. Oh Man. Like Like What's that? What the Hell is that? I think my grandfather. My grandfather played that when he was on his way to World War. One and Normandy I'm like that's not what happened, okay. Because the director of play Private Ryan Tom Hanks is on the planes street fighter two turbo turbo addition. Okay. He had a switch and he's playing animal crossing. Sergeant Sergeant got to sell my turnips. All the veterans in the movie theater was so realistic. We lost so many good turnips society bells. We need to make hours about to say. We need to make a dark version of animal crossing already exists, and we used to play a long time ago. It was called drug wars remember that. Flesh gave out. y'All ROCKSTAR MIC. Roxas like no mirror. We talked about this earlier on the podcasts were GONNA remain grand theft auto. Five is still print chance. Relax outs chateau. My rockstar programmer is that. I, your day starts, but putting your feet up on the desk in burning cigars made out one hundred those. BUGS ME AS A. As a noncommunity like I'm like I'm looking at this shit and I'm just like people like act like. For example like there's a lot of cross cross platform shit now like. Call Duty. Is Cross platform, so you'll be played in a party with a dude on xbox and playstation about Iraq so I'm just like. Yo. How like? Fuck. Shit You'RE GONNA ask. How hard is it to make? How how is it? The difference between the two systems is hard programming for each different system or like yeah like. Not like not only that. Is that the future. It has to be the future because I think you're getting to a point. Where if you make a game? I mean what used to happen was accompanied. Be Like this game is only coming out for playstation and as sounds good, but that's like saying. Only like having a restaurant would be like you'll only men. Can Ian Restaurant like? There's a whole market out there. You're ignoring the. I think like how much money are you getting our front that you're like? What does the game takes off and like you can sell more cop. You might be able to make more copies in the end off and then also is not as bad as it used to be. The difference between Apple and IBM used to be pro. It used to be like two very separate languages, and now because program routines are like standardized. The xbox playstation are two different platforms, but you know like creating for it is not like the difference between making an APP for the iphone and Android can make an APP for the iphone is simple. It all looks the same on every iphone. Is. You make an APP for Android. Good fucking luck. There are. Available, so there are fifty thousand androids out there like go to Jamaica go Dr r go Japan dues like every the Peleton is android. It booted up the other day and I was like Holy Shit. Like because it's a cheap terminal and easy to reprogram and stuff like that, but the problem is cheap terminally can put it in any type of technology, and it's different technology, so you might make that needs you to touch the screen, and what if someone using android is not using android that has a touchscreen little things like that, because the technology defer is different everywhere, but I think you know what Merrill. You're an expert on this. Did. You enjoy your ps four. If you. If you have to compare the xbox one to the PS four, because I have the xbox one, I don't have a PS four, but I'm thinking about. PS Five, should I? Just get both right. I mean you know what it is? Yeah, that's the thing like I'm GonNa get both 'cause like my kids destroy everything but fucking You know what it is. I got big hands. I like the xbox controller. Strictly I like the xbox controller cause remember the first xbox had that fucking monstrous fucking. Like toaster oven size controller? She was like Oh. Yeah, holding like a half a basketball. That's why. Playstation yeah okay. Can I didn't realize now they have like. They have like. Basically system neutral controllers. Sparks. Will Oh okay all right. Do you go? Do you go see a typical Yankee? Fan was the talk about steroids okay. Patrol is the steroids I'm taking a stand on this. As scuff controllers, Belco okay if you're using. The paddle every time you paddle button. It's an injection in your locker room. Okay, you're going to get a big head like David Ortiz talk about it so about it. Okay, it's not fair I WANNA see I. don't care I love. Barry Bonds. I WANNA see people smashing balls out of emily MLB baseball parks if you scrub because you have an unfair advantage. I've been ready. Do People like how do I just resistance in my scarf controller? I wore it out killing all these newbies. I was like that was me. That was me because I just got on the Newbie, but then also I'm also the guy getting on call the duty with like a half charged controller with the wall zag and stuff and I'm like what Kevin killed. Me What my my character is target practice. He's like freezing like in place it. Amy Headshots at him. I'm like. You. Run after the rest of the crew, and like their glynn forward because my connections. Like. I'm logoff. LOGOFF reboot. Okay, I think I think I need to reboot. Sorry guys. Back Yeah everybody twenty five minutes. And it doesn't fix it, but you really WanNa play, so you just play anyway with like the Wa lag, and this is really affect your game play, and you get frustrated, but you try not to curse. Like. Dan got again wow, so. He's just gonNA come through the doors before the door open. Wow, okay! Oh okay, Oh, okay? That's that's well Oh. You saw my gun sticking out of a wall. That's long me to the wall. Okay, cool! That's fine. That's fine. That's why because I shot you I or my console, but apparently the system said you shot me I. Sit, so let's go to the replay, yeah! I gotTA. Get angry. On bolster. Get angry and go to judy. Read it and post the replay and like took it. Look look at this pro. The game is gives cheating, Bro and one of the one of the programmers combs, things like look at these X. Hit marks, and actually if you look shifted actually. Actually, explain it and like Damn. Bro. See what's wrong with your your game? Play apparently suck. Apparently if you were a child and the nearest high school I believe what you're doing is would be described as your mom sucks while Dick from the back so. That sorta seems to be the problem here. Know Good luck with that. They don't even make games anymore that you could just pick up and play. Bro Like like you know what I'm saying like always gives us like mad. Super immersive. You gotTA. You gotta play, told her on line. Logging this and do this and do is like. The biggest problem now is like you everyone you have wanted to just like bang out a quick ten minutes of Gameplay real quick and you. You log on like a boy bags download this five hundred gig file. To. Get ready this up. That's the one thing I will say. Is The fucking and I don't know if it's just me life being like not super tech savvy and A. peress mode, and it just automatically updates everything right so like. The. xbox has the same thing, and it's like yeah. I was I was like. Oh Wow, boss I got update. Sorry, I'm like no, you're supposed to do that you while your day. WHY DOES UPDATE? I didn't even know he was gonNA play that game. I played that game every night. Game. What's wrong with? To to APPS for that game, Doe Family Yellen Right now like like you are the worst roommate xbox you don't do shit round here. Looking at it I got I gotta go on the hard drive, and download off and I'm just like I'm the only person keeping the place clean without me. This xbox tar will be a mess. Archive Shit. MOTHERFUCKER! Look at this place. I'm just walking gigabyte lesson. Here can ask a question, please. Can I ask a question, please? We haven't played division one if four months. Why is it still on a state? Oh Wow. Oh, wow! One I cool I. Thought Out. You know what I was I was going to just throw it out, but you know since you're you. You're my guy. You. Know what I'm saying. You play me. I thought I figured you know. Maybe this guy wants to keep his games. But if that's something. We got to do. Everything everything I do. What I play that every now and then, why would you do all right then all right then? Right there, so then asked me I. Turn me on and when I say this, just be like Yo. You know what I'm saying. Delete delete this. That's it. You got. Route Tell you how to be an adult. Wow Wow maybe a little three hour. You feel all three hours later. Come back, rub in the box like hey. Earlier I didn't mean all that I was I was listening. I was I just for day you. Think about it, but no matter what I say just. What's your last name one? That's why 'cause you're the XBOX. You're my one all right. My heart, you always do this. Your openness CD driver McLean Clean Lens. Komo come in come on. He's talking. To a four play, you start cleaning the fan in the back leg. Rosy Rosie Perez from do the right thing. You got the little little dicey. Back. Let me, let me let me clear events, BOO! He's playing in the background. Or the. Floor won't do do for you. You like I was in the store the other day wow. I think you deserve out the five hundred terrify hard-drive. She's I. It's. My? Life has been. Completely SSD you like Oh! Shit. Let's get married Liska solid stay like Oh my God. Oh my God. I. Ask My. Rg, live like Oh my God Ovalles Guy. He went to new Egge. New. God! I love him. He preorder on into controllers, y'all my. Own people come over because he wasn't. Over tension. of a guy just last night. You know a big step. Decay. He moved his multimedia fouls into my hard drive. So now I am the server for the House and. I am now running the flex operating system and you know we you know it's just. It's a beautiful thing is a beautiful. You! He gave me that fire stick. Know going be happy forever. That's right. You know and like when we have company and stuff like that would have dinner, parties and stuff and cook you know, and then you know he'll turn me on, and it's like Oh. Yeah, I WANNA. Play no lie so we can do. You know why. He hit the voice, but and on the Cooper Mo and be like show basketball and I'm going to be like from what country. Everyone's going to be super impress so. Also that's not how he link Australia Guy on deck UK, so also far success, not helpful if I'm clearly illegally trying to watch NBA stream air, showing me something for algae area. At what point in my life do you WANNA watch Algerian basketball? Available does not mean that's what we want to watch. The next thing I know all. My five minutes I'm like Yo. Shorty got the wild left Hook. Oh! I'm trying to put money on it and I'm like listen. Nice, got the hammer guy. Yo Bro. Number five is is is off fire. Mural told me that got this. They've been. They've been in the she. Mar.. Of. Jerry! Bookies! I was like what do mean. He'll take out Julian Basketball Beth. Like, that's not that's not the Aba we're talking about. Like, come on! Those shoot. Basketball. Listen, the the winner of the finals gets a potato like Oh. For a month and the vaccine. I'd everyone everyone is algae area these mirrow. Have you seen the condition of your country? You guys? Are you guys talk a real hot. Spicy you guys got a of. You got a lot of plywood and a lot of corona virus so I, if I was you, I lower your voice, okay, yeah, a lot of viruses, lot, plywood, and not a lot of. Hygienic products, and also you guys have. You guys have. No, economy, right Listen every other people. Other people in other countries could play most by just having one one. Lysol wipe in the camera. US How feel sick. y'All Lettering fi like blown over the phone. How you feel they just camera mad, toasted cheese! It's I'm like. Wow Wow. Wow, do that. Also shot to New Zealand which. On the wild unnecessary flex the other day they had basically you know how you're in a bar and New Year's Day countdown to midnight. Because they have had no new cases, Corona virus there officially done what Ron and not awesome. IAGO get sick. No, they're done they. They did all the testing they they're done corona. They've gone days without any new cases. The last person that had recovered so now after that they set a date and it was like after this time you guys could go to you because you guys did the right thing. Bars reopen, and whatever and the bars reopening at midnight, everyone met together and celebrating whatever. They're. They're basically doing this celebration. We're doing right now. In America so. You know. That's the most. That's the most American thing though they were people's like Yoga. Freedom Come Freedom. Who Hey what to do. You can't tell me what to do. tell him to go home now. Not Me all right. Here, we go boys. We hear Hawaiian shirts. We we might pay trump. We might like trump. We like guns and we hate. So. We. Start as I. who was who was the civil war start again? That sounds fun, but it's not like look. You'll get killed. Yes, is not guilt, guys. Accessible duty. Because there's mad like like redneck dues shit like that like you know what I'm saying, be like like. You know like you can't take our guns. We need to defend ourselves I'm like my man. The last thing show. It was like a fucking deer. That was grazing a hundred yards away like. You. You're not gonNA fucking Goto. Franklin like. fucking battle with motherfuckers. Now that all the people that you can't take our guns there like in Montana. Like no one's going to take your gun. Nobody's going to take him. You're mad far away from other people we're not. We're not coming after you don't like. The way to a civil war gets here. I was like there was no civil battle for Montana okay at all. No famous battle of Butte. Let me, explain what it was if there was a new civil war. In the NBA when Lebron plays against really shitty teams. That sits out those games. That's to be state okay. Load rare over here. Stay high. Your state gets skipped in a civil war for load management. Skip because the raiders are too low. You looking looking at the statute at the end of the war shared. It's like Oh! My ten DP coaches the okay all right. I'm sorry. This war has been blacked out in your local area you. saw. Wow please call your local cable provider. Y Wow. Wow hate to see it. Civil War League pass for the sheet wow. Oh Wow, so the civil was GonNa be on EPA ESPN plus so I got to get a second APP and then pay for that. See what he says he's going to be a HBO Max. V A civil war fucking fucking. Place! You know the battle of Gettysburg. Mike First Time Long. Time I, you know. Every now and then you know I hear that the you know they say that the civil war was not about slavery and I. Know I I'm hearing a lot of stuff, so I just wanted to know what you think. Tell you first of all. Absolutely was about slavery, but what people will realize? is that It also had a lot to do with Abraham Liquids Chops A lot of people thought that was sacrilegious In those days you know a lot of people, puritans and My chops were considered satanic. So you know that's what happens. Monzat right. Around thirteen o one right. Yeah Mickey Mantle will win the triple crown that year so. Mike another possible trade. Hang up and listen where we are. What do you think? Szeswith Szeswith for UH. John Wilkes booth. I. Mean You know John to quote the quota? You know a famous twin me. John Wilkes Booth this thing. Don't miss so I mean I pick him. You know he's one hundred percent for field. If you know what I mean. Listen. On this podcast? On this podcast we have talked about trimming your pubic hairs. See Your mate doesn't get poked in the face while performing Feliciano and we just did Mike Francesa giving play by play. For the civil war. Don't you ever say we miss? All right basic is so. Episode two to six all right? Story fired. A onto poxy phallic cereal puck fat like Hey, we got. This young party young takes easy FRAGO. Mister Nandan Rondo Munis. Nevada quantum McKell going off juveniles. The go copy forty, which he ak don't talk to me and I. Don't know you the original plus one. God So. Don't make a fuss on. 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How to Make Money on LinkedIn with Mark Metry

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55:42 min | 1 year ago

How to Make Money on LinkedIn with Mark Metry

"Today talk with Mark Metro he is a bestselling author, a amazing entrepreneur and host of one of the top podcasts in the world humans do Plano, but the amazing part of the stories deep dive on linked in and how mark went from having nothing no following no audience, no platform to building one of the most viral audiences in the world on Lincoln. Specifically talk about how you can become the number one voice on Lincoln in your industry right now. Number two he talks about deconstructs the superhero effect, and just by adjusting a couple of things in your bio how you can attract people to want to work with you. Third, he actually goes into exactly how he creates content what content flow he uses, and how you can mimic the same and most importantly he talks about the the idea of the psychological promise, and how does binds people to you attracts people to you and wants to make people work with you. Lincoln is a gold. Mine and Mark shows you exactly how to do it, so get ready for an insane interview with my friend Mark Metric. One thing is for certain. Just because it's tried and true doesn't mean it's working right now, so the big question is this. Where can you learn what is working right now? The strategies the tactics, the psychology, the exact how to how to go your business. How to blow up your personal brand and supercharge your personal growth, that is the question and this podcast. We'll give you the answer. My Name is Sharon Trotter and welcome to business school. Mark weakened tar about so many things right now. Goes. You've been one busy body, but do one thing. I have to tell you about anything. Else's congratulations on. An actually writing and launching the book man like, how does it feel right now? To be honest with you man. This whole journey has been so rewarding. Sometimes it's been scary, but it's definitely been weird. You know someone who is twenty two years old and I'm just trying to my life and I'm just trying to. Take advantage of the exponential technology that nobody else has had in human history to help like the twelve year old version of myself of myself and talk about things like mental health and transformation and things that are really deep. It's been extremely rewarding, but it's also been super weird and like every single day I get messages. I got emails like real heartfelt messages of people. Tell me like hey. Hours in your position and you know when I heard this thing or when you said this. It totally changed how I how I looked at things and so. This is crazy. Man Like it feels like underwriting like my life story movie in Real Life Action, so yeah, it's. It's been crazy to say the least. Do. It's amazing, so screw being shy, learn how to manage social anxiety and be yourself in front of anyone. Mark Battery did recently went live I I when I. When I first and I'm super grateful that I was a small, a small line in the book. Super grateful for that the would dude when I saw the title. When you first shot the pre cover that you sent me, I was like I. was like wow. How vulnerable does he have to be in this? Because you can't say what you're saying with this title, you can't say it without digging deep and being vulnerable in a in a written medium, and that's that's tough, dude, man, it's. It's definitely tough, but I know that. These problems in our society in our worlds are just not going to be acknowledged and are not going to be solved if people don't talk about them, and you know in my book I talk about where I would have basically a panic attack anytime. Every anybody would try to talk to me. I talked about the Times where I would wet the bed all the time, even when I was a young adult, because my body would go into fighter flight spots because I had psychological trauma I talk about the Times where I things that I'm not proud of that enabled ashamed. Stealing from stores way back. In the day when? I didn't have too much money, and so for me. It's just been like this process of. How much can I just sort of flip my guts inside out into the world? At least like in an appropriate manner, so that people understand that there are others like them than have these same thoughts. There are other people like them to have gone through these issues. And when I was growing up I never heard anybody talk about this, and now as a major reason why I didn't get help. That was a major reason why. I thought I was some sort of a a moral failure that God or the universe had just sort of created me to just be doomed, not being able to talk to people never being able to be myself, and so it's like you. You can't live with the pain of that and continue to live because if you do then you almost become a statistic and talk about the Times where I was suicidal, and it's just like when you go through that, you have two options. You can either use that pain to fuel and reinvent yourself, or you can use it to destroy you and destroy. Destroy other people and their self esteem, and so I'm just I'm on the side for good, you know. I try my best every single day. I still have problems I still issues I still have an ego, but is just like I'm trying to get ahead of it in the most transparent way that I can because I know that when I'm like years, Olds WanNa. Be Like Man I am so glad I did that when I was twenty two and it's helped me build this platform. This legacy that I have today so I hope it's all meaningful and it's worth it at the end. So? I listened to the the one thing that totally stood out to me was the CEO's that I. Mentor I. Tell them the one thing that completely changes. Everything is I say, don't suffer in silence, and there's this amazing quote mark that I had one of my mentors told me, and he said are our mind is like a bad neighborhood. Don't go in there alone. and. That's so it's so crazy when I hear that right like it's totally true because for high achievers. A that's literally kind of what you're saying is so which is so amazing. So. Let me ask you a transitionary question here so what you did. This brings me to kind of why we're here. Business School. What you did was. You took you launched your book. A lot of people say hey. You know what I have this message in story to share with the world I'm Gonna I'm gonNA write this piece of this body of work, and then I'm going to spend the rest of my life promoting it and getting it in the hands of people, but you're able to completely compress that curve because you. Whether it was by accident or whether it was by design. You did it in a very thoughtful way meaning what you did was you launched the book on top of a platform that you already built where you could? Instantly after you wrote the book, You were able to get it in the hands of people, you able to get the message out and I think. You and I. Are you and I know. How many messages do you and I know that are beautiful well written, but they'll never see the light of day because people just don't have the platform for it. And and and So many conversations that we've had you know you've shared. Hey, one of the primary ways in which you really went from zero, actually having nothing from a social presence perspective or a platform perspective. To, today is on Lincoln. And how you've leveraged their platform, and you'd literally you knew nothing about when you when you started, but what I love about it is is mark when you. The order, in which you built this body of work I actually don't think that in this short amount of time you would have been able to reach this many people without that platform. Yeah no hands down. One hundred percent like I tend to think that. The biggest reasons for my professional success are my internal success first and foremost obviously, but then also lengthen, and also my podcast to, and I totally agree with you. There's that hope there's like that whole quote that says. If you build it. They will come and I think that that might have applied like twenty thirty forty fifty years ago, but the reality is is like you said there are so many people out there. That have amazing meaningful, heartfelt messages, but. They're not getting out there and personally for me. That's what's enabled me to like. Make my book a bestseller. I've had people like Dan. Pink endorsed my book interest like the craziest amount of praise and accolades and numbers in terms of selling and getting this idea out there that there's no way disorder been possible and. You know for me I got on Lincoln in two thousand and seventeen I always kind of had Lincoln. I remember I was in some like tech class in high school and they're like. Hey, you gotta make Lincoln because it's like how you get a job and you put your resume up there right I just always kinda use it as A. Member in two thousand seventeen when I had started my podcast, I interviewed. A friend of mine. Who Said Oh? Wait, you're before we start this podcast you mind if I post on Lincoln real quick and I was like wait. You can post on link. Is Up to that time I didn't know they had a content feed right like facebook or Instagram I thought that it was like this online resume and I like began to to look around out experiment data and the first time. Actually made a piece of content. Was this video that I had recorded and it was video. That was a part of this. Hashtag, let's get honest initiative and this actually when Lincoln just came out with video as a feature previously didn't even have video on the platform, and like this challenge was like. Hey, just share something that you want to be honest about and personally in my own life at this time. This was maybe about two years after I had kinda fallen down a dark time I was suicidal and I was beginning to get ahead of my social anxiety, and I was beginning to manage it in my life, and I just Kinda whip out my my webcams laptop, and I just record this video and I said you know through my entire life I've always let kinda social fears dominate me and not enabled me to be my real self, and it was just like this minute long video. Didn't really think twice of it to be honest with you and I put it up and a week later I logged back in and. You know I, don't know I don't think the stats on the video were were crazy, but I got comments of people that were like CEO's in different business leaders. That were like you know. Hey, mark. You're so courageous for sharing this, you know. I have a daughter who struggles the same thing or it'd be some other guy who said you know. I also struggle with this, too. and seeing you kind of share that at your young age gives me hope, but. Even after that to be honest with you I I didn't really think twice of lengthen, and it wasn't until like the beginning of two thousand eighteen, where I just had a few of my different mentors. Tell me to just get on Lincoln, because it was a major major opportunity, and like the big thing that I learned share on that. You know. Instagram has like what like a billion monthly users I don't know what percentage of those people create content but on link. I think there's something like five hundred million or seven hundred million people, and it's like less than one percent of them create content why so it is such a content deficient platform, obviously now because of people like me, talking about it and other people more you know influencers on instagram and facebook and Youtube are heading on Lincoln now and the other big part. Part about it is You know. Obviously I think every single social media platform has its use facebook instagram. They're all great. They all have its own use, but the real thing that I absolutely love about Lincoln and I think that has made me sort of climb up the professional success ladder much much faster is because the people who are on link thin are. Decision makers and businesses their CEO's. They're people in the business, entrepreneurial world, usually one hundred percent of the time, and so I've been able to. Collaborate with companies like Amazon Forbes like some fortune five hundred companies. It's been mostly all from. And it's been showing up there every single day and making content and now I think I'm out like. Like seventy two thousand followers I've had post of mine that have gotten millions of views, and it's just completely changed my life, and you know personally for me. My primary purpose in this world is to help other people achieve a life of mental, emotional, physical spiritual freedom and my number. Two purpose is to help leaders get their own movement started and I'm super fortunate to have been able to help a ton of leaders you know. Get more serious about lengthen, because it's just an insane opportunity, and still not a lot of people are taking advantage of it, so it's such a great great opportunity man. I'm glad you asked. So you know this is. This is awesome and. I if it's okay with you I would love to. kind of deconstruct or just download three years I mean compress your three years into thirty minutes here because I think that. Just. Tactically a lot of people are. I say that the the the one question problem right? The one question problem ends up. Being solved this one question. It opens up and I'll go do the work. Hey, I just don't know what to post I don't know as my bio. Okay or I just don't know if I can do video or I just don't know if I can link people out I. Just don't a lot of people. That I talked to have this one question problem that one question if they can get a little clarity on that dramatically opens up kind of their their freedom to do things but. The one thing that you said about because I. I'm on I'm after your coaching I'm on. I started to take Lincoln seriously. Because the one thing I realized that they're still my two favorite things about Lincoln number one is that there's no like guru and boys on link. Right like that's which is which is on Instagram facebook youtube. They're totally these guru fan. Boys that are and that's for a while. That's interesting, but it's not. It's a very watch my jet. Watch my Bentley kind of culture, and which is okay I. have no problem with it, but it's just not. As a platform as a whole Lincoln is not like that which is really powerful right, and so that's a democratises, the content and the where you're from and the second thing mark is. I am amazed at the limited amount of negativity in hate on the platform like. Self is so amazing like I want when I'm stuck, and I'm wanting to be positive Lincoln. Because there is no, it's all positive, and it's all like uplifting. It's all inspirational teaching all educational. It's all sharing and there's something to be said about that from an energy perspective, too. Yeah, you know for sure, and and to be honest with you man like I have. I have literally met the most important people in my life from Lincoln on the platform, and I think that's for a few different reasons. I think one people who are on Lincoln in the first place. They definitely have some. Orientation towards growth or at least professional gross or career growth, just because of the way the platform is whereas maybe instagram you know there's so many different like niches like there's people who are posting like cartoons or food. And whatnot, but it's like Lincoln is all about Gross, so it's like I. Have Friends of mine who? are like fitness trainers who have been able to like completely grow a business just off the back of Lincoln of helping like busy CEOS. Get in shape, and that's because you know. They don't take videos of them like in a six pack. Video they say like Hey. Did you know that. Back pain is the number one cause of like general fatigue, and if you're in a meeting and you're tired, a big part of that has to do with like your body mind connection I will help you kinda tap into that and so Lincoln is very very results oriented and the thing about it is. You know. I've had posts of mine that have gone millions of US sometimes. They gave me business Sometimes. They don't get a ton of business. I had other posts in mind that I've just hit like the bottom like five thousand views and I've generated like ten thousand dollars worth of revenue just off like a single post and that's because. All all you are is just one message away from a CEO from I remember the first kind of big GIG. That golf from Lincoln was with this fortune five hundred company, and it was literally just the CEO's assistant, just kind of scrolling through and looking at different podcasts, related tools, and so definitely like the whole culture of Lincoln is all oriented towards growth. It's all oriented towards career development, and if you can help people achieve. From the different perspectives, whether you are a fitness trainer, or you're an author or your high performance coach as long as you can help people in general, then it's good. You know Instagram I think can be good for maybe sharing a little bit more about yourself, the more personal side, and of course you need both, but if I'm gonNA grow on Lincoln. excuse me if I'm going to try to grow my business. It's definitely definitely. GonNa, be on lengthen, and then also the second thing is If you triple down on Lincoln, the same way that I did, you can literally become the number one voice on their. You know like Gary. V has done it. He's got millions of followers on there now. other people like Ed My let like myself that have taken in Lincoln more seriously have become like the top dominating industry, and then like you just think about the implications of that of like whether an event organizer is on there, or whether some sort of you know a press reporter is on Lincoln and they searched for that industry. Your name is GonNa come up I as though it's extremely extremely valuable and then even. You know ever since Mike linked then got bought out by Microsoft's I believe it was a few years ago. I mean they've done major changes to the platform and even look at Microsoft is a company. They're all about creating ecosystems. They're all about creating these major platforms where people can grow. That's exactly what they've been doing on Lincoln and so yeah. The implications of it are definitely definitely huge, and you know I'm happy to get inside the tactical one, but but but I definitely think the point that you said of like that one question problem. Definitely guest people stuck and a lot of the ways, and it can be just be good to just go on that platform. Learn more about it. Begin to experiments and religious see that it could be a major major source of business personally for me, maybe like seventy percent of my business comes directly from Lincoln. Isle like wake up in the morning. All right a post, and maybe an hour or two hours three hours pass by, and that post has like fifteen twenty thousand views I have like five leads coming from that already, and it's just. It's a massive system for sure man do that, so so so I went through parts of your course, and I wrote down a bunch of questions that need I think from a structural perspective again. What I thought was what's stopping somebody right? I try to get in the head of a few people's. I talked to a few of my private clients and I said well. What is stopping you and I have those questions in front of me, which is I? He I'm talking to the expert here, so maybe we could deconstruct, so let let let me fire a few tactical stuff at you. Yeah, the first one is. The other platforms like facebook twitter, etc, D- are not, really, you know. Kinda profile bio dependent in any way, you can get by with very sparse kind of stuff you don't have to almost to. Tell the world who you are. Can you talk briefly about? If I were starting out a few things that I need to think about what I'm just crafting that profile and that bio so so I'm actually talking to the right person. Yes, that's a great question. Men and the reality is if you're able to do this, you already sticking out from ninety nine percent of the people on Lincoln. People on Lincoln have literally the most generic terrible tag lines and Bios and they're like you know I have five years of experience doing this and that. The real way to capture people as You know what's really interesting is like for example on instagram. Right if you posted, something and people are commenting right? You have maybe I comment. Maybe Gary, v comments, all you see on Instagram is just my name, but the thing with Lincoln. When you comment on somebody's post, they have like a little tagline. That's below their name. You know personally for me. It's like bestselling author of my book podcast. Yada Yada Yada that is a direct spot for you to literally put like a like a mini advertisement like almost like a little email signature signatures. You can say I help busy CEO's perform better. I help a B. TO B. Companies Star podcast and every time you common. That's right then in there and you know when it comes to. The the about the the bio of your lengthen. That's a spot for you to talk about your services. That's the spot where maybe you can talk about your experience. Be Any accolades, anything I can give you credibility, but the big thing is what I've learned is. If you're able to just like really capture in the first sentence of your bio page some interesting aspect of your life. You can get people hooked, so you know I mean I say. You know today. I'm a Forbes featured. Uh Speaker I'm on Amazon, prime documentary series. But once upon a time I couldn't even make direct eye contact with anybody I suffered from social anxiety. And you know this is a tip that. You know a lot of people. Call this like the superhero effect where it's like. If you look at any superhero like like Batman, there's usually like a very outwardly facing strengths. Everyone kind of knows them for that. But there's always like this double side to it. There's always like maybe like a little bit of a of a darker side to it, and the reason why that's important on in is because Lincoln is is just getting better now, but it is too much of a professional platform like overly professional, and so if you can just be honest, and you can say hey, yeah, I'm really good at. Improving your performance I'm really good my professional expertise, but I'm also a human also gone through these struggles that immediately let somebody. Wants to out your profile net immediately. Let somebody know that you are different than everybody else on this platform, and you're actually a real human being because you Sharm one of the problems that Lincoln has. Obviously every every platform has, but Lincoln has die known for being too spammy e a lot of sales people around there. A lot of them are sending in mail messages Mike Thousands of them without even connecting to you, and so that's what most of that platform is, or it's like people would trying to find the job, but if you're able to separate yourself and you're like. Hey, this is who I am. This is what my brand stands for. This is how I can help you, and this is how I'm a human. Then you are immediately ahead of ninety nine percent of the people on Lincoln. That's so that's still good. I think just the fact knowing that. You know and the new stuff. Right here was hey, when you go comment on, someone's supposed. Your little tagline comes up, which is a which is an like an amazing like you said right like social email signature, which is really powerful, but let's take that to the Ninja of number two. which amazing that. I wrote this down was. It. That was not built by accident. The decree ruling Kafe. If now we're actually the reason we're doing. That is because now when Sharon comment on Mark's post. Markets to see that so now I'm going to incentivize to comment more because now Sharon can go anywhere. Comment more, and now it's not just as someone short lecture on commented on by posers like icy, instantly I associated who what Sharon does and so I and from commenting liking commenting sharing perspective. That's even before we get into content creation I. Remember you telling Me Hey, the first thing you need to be doing is just getting engage in. Engage existing content on the platform, so let's say I. Have My profile like you said I've got the superhero. I'm good at blank, but I also have blank. Kryptonite right like that's really cool. You've got this many advertisement tagline. You've shown a little humanity now. If I'm if the next thing that I'm going to do is go. Engage, a little bit and get familiar with the platform. What are your suggestions around commenting sharing and engaging with existing content? Yeah that's a great question man so. I have honestly. Built my podcasts from Lincoln and one of the ways that I did that. Is You know I identified people who? Are, really big in the podcast and game who are in my similar industry or my similar niche, and they don't respond to their comments, and what I mean is obviously not trying to call people out, but if you look at like major major leaders, influencers like Tim Ferriss. Gary V. Tom Bill. You a lot of these people. They kind of run Lincoln. They kind of have it on like a auto scheduler have someone on their team doing it, and they may get an extreme high-value a high volume of comments, and they just don't respond, and so a major part of my strategy is I will identify. Five to ten people on Lincoln who are already getting engagement on their posts, who already have an audience that I want and I will go in there and leave very very thoughtful comments that are useful and the other part of this too is sometimes. I'll be scrolling in there and I'll see. Someone will ask a question to like Gary and I'll say hey. You know showed I started podcast. Should I not and you go in there and you respond to their question themselves. Now that person who may be interested in the same exact. Niche or the service that you're offering now. About you and like one of the best parts about Lincoln is this whole kind of network effect and what I mean by that is. If you go to just like you're linked in feed your Lincoln homepage. You're not just GONNA see like posts of people's content. You'RE GONNA. See People in your network who have commented on other people's posts and half him. Yeah, and what I mean by that is like. You know probably the first time when I got on the map so to speak in like the entrepreneurship world was in two thousand eighteen, and it was after had interviewed Seth Godin, and it's not just because I had just interviewed Seth Godin, and he was just up on my podcast. It was because. I made a little micro video snippet and I posted up on there and I tagged Seth Godin. and. Seth Godin saw that post, but the really interesting part about Lincoln is if your content if you're post guests enough engagement and you've tagged somebody in it. It is to automatically. Pop Up in everyone who's connected or follow Seth Godin on Lincoln at the top of their content feed. It's so next thing I know. I've tapped into. All of the CEO's all the leaders that. Look south, golden for. Marketing leadership now they know who I am Dave. Seen that post of him and I together, and they can make a decision to like comment. Maybe follow me. Maybe look into more to me and so yeah, there are many different layers behind it, but if you can start to identify Fossa ten people that you really WanNa engage with you want their audience, and then maybe start to. Attack them if you can find some way to collaborate with them to. You'RE GONNA get literally directly inside of their audience, so that's extremely powerful. Did that such a great tip because essentially what you said was. Let's use someone else's platform. To Build. To build and serve your message. And I think in very similar where I'm not trying to sell somebody's anything, but I think that people forget that. Right when we talked about this early on, there's a lot of bodies of work out there. That never see light a day. And I think it is our responsibility to make it see light a day, and that's on us, and so you're saying. Hey, I have a great podcast. I have a great message. I have a great service, and if someone is going to comment on Gary v's feed, saying hey, should I start a podcast and I marked Batra who have built one of the best podcasts in the world. Three hundred plus episodes humans two point I was like I. Mean Like I binge. Right. It's like the coolest thing. Right and you comment on that. There's a there's two things there at one. You're adding value and to the person that's asking the question and to use insane credibility around it and three. If Gary ever saw that. It is the greatest thing for for somebody on their own feet to see discussion happening like right on my when I see people on on. facebook or instagram comment on my stuff and I see other people get involved in that thread and I don't have to touch it in any way and I see community fact. I feel as A. Even though it's platform, I feel super grateful that that's happening and that I'm able to create that called container for that conversation and I think what you've just shown as you can actively. I wouldn't hack it, but you can actively engage with it, which is very very cool. Yeah, yeah, for sure on the other thing that I would say to is like. I know personally for me like if I post a an like post on Instagram, and it does pretty well for for my stats, my audience, considering do the amount the amount of comments of us of all here of like hey I message. This guy and I got two thousand dollars, or I did a four X. trading thing I made this amount of money. There's so much instagram. Of course there's going to be spending on Lincoln but with Lincoln I see a lot less and I just genuinely see kind of like that community effect of people, helping other people and the other part about this do Sarunas. Started making like these more community threats so like for example. When this whole kind of like Cova nineteen thing was just beginning, and a lot of people were losing their jobs. A lot of people still are. I was like you know. Hey, guys. If you have a business and you're hiring comment below and you get people engage like that. And then I made another post that said you know, Hey, do you? Do you host a podcast and you WanNa be a guest on podcast, and I created like this mini podcast marketplace as cool absolutely, and that's like the real power of and and of course you do on other social media networks, but I feel like the the network effects for lengthen is just especially powerful for those kinds of things. Awesome so you went right into. Let's talk a little bit about content creation, and I think that. People. Kind of. Overwhelms Folks Lot, and I think Lincoln Overwhelms people more because it has this aura of extreme professionalism right like I need to have a picture of me in a suit I need to say things that have really good punctuation. I need to only have perfect grammar. There is that. Kind of you know twenty fifteen approach to linked in which I, don't it? It's actually it's gone from being a business networking platform to an real social platform now can you kind of talk about our people over thinking the fact of Hey, I need to show a very business on this platform. That's number. One and second is an I'll dig more into like Konta Chretien rounded. But what are your thoughts around kind of? Tone how you show up. And how do you think about that? Yeah, for sure and I think I. Think what you said is spot on and I think it's really evident like when that whole. Like when that whole challenge was going around, that was like. Hey, here's your tinder picture. Picture here's your Lincoln Picture and the link to picture was always much much more professional, and so I think that kind of conception has definitely had a lot of people shy away from the platform and I. think that's definitely warranted. Just because the changes that lengthen has made over the last few years have definitely been new, but you know I can say for myself like. Almost every time, the best performing posts that I make are like not professional at all, and it's just me being real. And when it comes to content, you know there's a lot of different things that you can. Do you know if you already make videos on like your instagram? For example, you can put those on lengthen, and it really shouldn't be a problem. The only thing that I would say is maybe a little bit more unique to lengthen is Lincoln. Is a is a much more intellectual. Platform and what I mean by that is. Texts like writing copy. Destroys it wins on Lincoln, and that's because. People don't necessarily WANNA. See your face versus instagram. They don't necessarily care if you have a car or jet is just like. Hey, what is the information? How can this help me? And why is it best? That's why personally for me You know I don't I don't really like taking pictures myself It's just not my kind of thing and I'm kind of a more. Intellectual writing kind of Guy, and that's why I. Think I really do well on Lincoln. And so if you're able to just spit out the facts, if you're able to just kind of right in not necessarily like a super, academic or intellectual way just right like a normal copy trying to say. As much as possible and as little words, then you'll definitely win and like for example. You know for like just like for for your example Charan I. See on your instagram. You have like these super. Cool informative posts where you kind of have a slider, and like you break down different tips, and you sound like hey, number one do this number to do that. The really interesting part about Lincoln is. They had that feature, but they have it in this document pdf feature, and so basically what you can do is an axe same way as instagram's kind of image slider, but the format of it is a little bit different. You just have to convert it to a PDF. Right does when I post them. Those are my best performing posts because it's kind of the best of both worlds, it's a little bit more aesthetic. You can drop in a lot more information because Lincoln has a thirteen hundred character limit in their texts, which is unfortunate, compared like instagram I think it has like a ten thousand characters or something crazy like that. is though it tries to limit you in that way. But if you're able to take that text information and convert that to some sort of a visual sliding piece desk great because one, it's much more aesthetic and the number two. Whenever I'm sure this is true. For many other social platforms whenever Lincoln drops a new feature, they usually try to promote that they usually try to promote that as much as possible. And they dropped this feature maybe like a a few months ago or a little bit longer than that, so like for whatever reason do the? Whenever I make those posts. Linked Lincoln make sure that it gets the top of the Algorithm and more people who are following me. who were my do that? And, so like for if you are like more intellectual, you just want to provide people value. You're not necessarily about the cell fees. You're not about like the random pictures. Where like Instagram, kind of as much more visually appealing, lengthen is definitely definitely the the spot for you and and yeah, I wish more people like you and seth. Godin would take advantage of it for sure because it's super. Super Powerful, but the more you can focus on copy, the more you can focus on the tax, the information piece the more that Lincoln is GonNa Push. This inspired us in the algorithm of like. Hey, here is just really really good information that works and the second thing that I want to say is. One of the best parts about lengthen is that. It doesn't care who you are. It doesn't care how many followers you have and I've had like friends of mine. Who Literally just made Lincoln? Accounts and posted like. Hey you know. I just got combine like my first job. At this company, here are three things that I've learned as like a like a college intern, or whatever and some of those posts get way more engagement than mine I've seen for like friends of mine who had just Gone Lincoln who have three hundred followers who have gone hundreds of thousands of views on their posts, and that's because Lincoln is a marketplace of ideas. If you have the best ideas, the algorithm will push those out. It does not matter how many followers that you have, and so it's. It's like this really equal playing field of just saying like who is the best this who actually has the best content that people engage with the most and so versus like maybe instagram or facebook, where maybe you have to build up a lot of your followers, Lincoln is not like that is very much an equal playing field. Yeah, so did I totally I love. That I want to talk a little bit about the followers a second, but I follow you on Lincoln I. Love Your Stuff de. But you've also done an amazing job of keeping up with the. Maybe you're looking at your analytics and keeping up with the Trans I remember. You're doing these Selfie, just regular videos, right? You're going to run, and you did the video, and I remember you telling you did the video and had got decent engagement, and then you did the. Transcription on top of the video, and then you said Dude, that just that totally exponentially is my views on it because people were watching the video with the transcription kind of going on it, then you gave me the idea where you said Hey Sean. You've got all these like five six slider pos them. PEDIA got. That does really well, but recently I've seen you do a lot. More of these like list listed post-strike seven reasons to do this eight seven ways to save consistent posting on Lincoln and that stuff seems to. Just you know you have. You. Seventy, two thousand followers right now, which instagram world is seventeen million? It's insane right, and but but your views on your post are sometimes. Close to five to ten x your follower base, which which is the very definition of morality, right like essentially I'm saying all right I have seventy two thousand people that does networks as connected to, but just the views on my post are four, hundred and fifty thousand like that's that's that's that's amazing, and that itself should get people to pause and stop and say okay. I'm being given an opportunity here. On a very level playing field that I can never that that Mark Sharon and Jimmy are all the same plainfield, and it's democratized how I can create and reach people. That's exactly Amen and You know I think the list post to really well just because of like that straight up kind of valuable information of like. Hey, you know you might be checking. Your lengthen before you go to work at like eight a m. maybe you follow me. Maybe. You don't maybe you are. Following like a specific Hashtag in my niche, and when you see those posts, and they've got that that that number that kind of instantly provides like that psychological promise to the human brain of like hey. I'm going to promise you. I'm going to tell you these five things that can help you, you know. I'M NOT GONNA. Take you for a whirlwind, not gonNA. Give you two of them, and then say go by my course to get the rest of them, and so I think it's like that real psychological promise people, and then the reality is is like the other part about it too is. When you make those lists local posts and you say like hey, here are seven ways to crush on lengthen, and but I, always try to do is I always try to make my post open ended in the sense of I always ask people like Hey, do you agree with this? Do not agree with this, and let's say you do or you don't. What would be number eight on this list? And so when you do that, you open up the conversation for a lot of people and you get them to engage and the more engagement you get, the better your post performs. The battery goes up in the Algorithm, but. Ultimately if you're able to do that, that's fine and then also. Note about this too is. With Lincoln there are two kinds of of audience types. There are your connections, and then there are followers connections. Are you go to my profile? You go to your profile and there's a button that says connect and a lot of the times when you connect with someone. This is Lincoln's feature of like. Now you can messages person now. You can like see like their email address. You can see their contacts. You can see there other connections. And then there are followers, and this happens when you reach peak connections, which is actually thirty thousand, I think I'm sitting on like twenty, two or twenty, three thousand connections, and then now. Lincoln like pops up and it gives you a button when people through your profile that says follow. This means that they will see your content in their feed even if they're not connected to you and. You know another great way that you can really use this to grow is if you identify like. Maybe your ideal clients, the main people you want to get in front of and you go to their profile. And you start engaging with their content, you know day in and day out and then you send a connection requests. And you personalized that which is super important, and what I mean by that is on Lincoln. The default is just to connect without a note, but it'll ask you if you want to personalise no, and basically what that means is if someone is on their phone. They're looking at their connection across all. It is just pops up the person's name. Their picture and that little tagline, and then it says. Do you want to connect with this person or not? There's a check or there's an axe, but if you personalize no, you literally drop in a message right then and there and a lot of the Times people abuse the crap out of this on Link Day. Try to connect with you and they say hey. Mark I see you're doing good work at, and then they just have a body, aches the name of Your Company and eight auto. Fill that in and they say hey. I would love it if you want to sign up for. Our Free PDF or hop on consultation, call or something like that is so again like if you're able to be authentic and now kind of auditees, at least not automate them terribly You're. GonNa immediately. Stick out in. It can get you right in front of People Away, and so, that's also another thing to Kinda. Take mines of so good so good, so let me ask you a question about follower base for a second so. On. From a following perspective, given the exposure and the veracity, the platform and it's GonNa kind of totally bring us home. On a lot of platforms like the plot from the are generally used to facebook instagram, etcetera where you say hey, I have one hundred. Thousand followers and I'M GONNA probably. If if by post gets, you know the algorithm is feeling good, and my posts gets organic rich. I'm never GONNA get more reach than my follower based generally speaking unless i. Unless I blow out of. Three or four hundred thousand followers and more but. How important. Is The follower metric on. Lincoln is that vanity trick like if there's a metric that you would actually look at and care about as people are starting to grow, and can can hone in on a metric they. They know that they're. They're doing a good job and they know that they're growing what? Metrics. Would you actually get them to follow? Yeah, for sure so I have seventy thousand followers, but you know the reality is is sometimes my post. Get Ten thousand views, sometimes I got a million views, and so we can really I just sort of depend. But. It's definitely easier to. Expand the reach past your number of followers on Lincoln, just from my own personal experience versus other platforms for sure but I. Definitely I definitely don't think that follower count is the most important thing to look out for what I would look at Two different metrics, and I would look at these in terms of input versus output, and so what I would say to myself is. How many times in my commenting or or like personally for me? And like the business that are on like I, have sometimes I have my assistant. Commenting and someone and sometimes responding because it can just the volume of it can be rain. Yeah, but. Looking at input of like a can I engage with like a hundred people's post today. Hey, can I send. Ten people. Thought for connection requests that's based off the content that they post or the messages that I get from them where they can at least know of me, that's one. The second one that I look at is the amount of engagements on your own posts, and then as well as the messages that you get probably the most important thing about lengthen it inbox. Your lengthen inbox is. If you run Lincoln Right, it is essentially a gold mine you know the amount of. Business that I have gone from, you know someone will randomly see my content. They might leave a comment. All respond back meaningfully and I'll get a message from them, and they'll say you know. Hey, mark. I've been following your work for the last seven weeks. I've seen a lot of your posts. you know I I saw that you collaborated with this person. I saw that you do this. You know actually my companies looking to start a podcast or my companies looking to get more serious about generating leads online. Can you help us and so? I'll look at engagement of your own posts of your own comments and your inbox. Those can be extremely extremely powerful, and you know the last thing I'll say is like you know. Lincoln has like a like a sales navigator like an email system where you can search people's positions You can search them by how long they've been there. You can search them by a lot of different criteria and doubt is also a great way to learn more about people, because unfortunately like Lincoln system is not as transparent and robust compared to like instagram of like if you search for someone's name. On instagram, or if you search for like a Hashtag, you'll get it, but sometimes on Lincoln. That can be a little bit tricky. It's so if you're trying to find a specific person. A specific kind of person, a target I would definitely use sales navigator, but I would not go for the immediate pitch if I could create content instead to appeal to that person and engage with their own content than they will message. You don't even have to message them back. Are you only have to message them? I and so that's like a major major way that you can do it for sure. And that can be really really rewarding on business deaf side for short. So good man, you know. I WANNA I WANNA. Wrap up with. Until for everybody, I'LL I. I'll post post this on linked in which is my four pages from US talking which is super cool, but I'll I'll link everything in the show notes because you dropped some amazing gems. There are three things that. The three big pillars of your bodies of work right now that are really impacting a lot of people and I love reader. Talk about all three one being for those that WanNa go deep with how you have practically done it. There is linked and course we have the book which I love Free Talk about where they can get him and third my favorite of all. which is your podcast so if If you could just say hey. Those three things on them that way I can give you a little con text link. Everything in the show notes. Yeah, definitely number one is Lincoln got my I got my Lincoln course I also do a Lincoln coaching number. Two is I have my podcast acceleration program and people can check that out just all my website, which by first and last name Dot Com Marta. And Yeah last, but not least I mean. I'm super passionate about the whole mental wellness side because that's what really it because. I've had people in my podcasts from the the CO founder of Netflix to. Who have told. They had hundreds of millions of dollars, and they were going to kill themselves, and so that for me is like the ultimate ultimate. Passion of mine? That's the book screw being shy The audio book will be released soon and I'm actually in the middle of taking that book and making it into a course for people who don't necessarily WanNa read, but WANNA learn how to practically do these things that are more interactive level so Yeah, man! THAT'S I! Appreciate you for having me on man, it's. Grow and you're just filled with value. Thank you for. It's listen up as we finish. Our want to tell people this is It's pretty awesome, because in such a short time on this planet. You've created such. Deep enrich bodies of work that are going to stand the test of time and continue to help people with the course with the book with the podcast. I mean it's it's so that. You've been able to put this all together. In such a short amount of time like you've done lifetime's worth of work already, and the world needs more people like you mark and I'm grateful to call you friend man, thank you so much for being on. Thank you so much for other. You're going to crush his podcast. Hey Sean I have a cool gift for you I took some of my best ideas from the last twenty years in created a by day NBA, it's quick and action packed that you can listen to on the go just like this podcast and I want to give it to you for free just as a thank you for listening to the show. No fluff, no gimmicks just pure actionable ideas for you to use instantly you can grab it right now. 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Episode 309:Show Biz Life with Adam Ferrara!

The Captain's Log with Host Brien Spina Podcast

19:41 min | 2 years ago

Episode 309:Show Biz Life with Adam Ferrara!

"Hey guys good morning. Thursday morning. I startled my comedian and guaranteed right even up yet. Adam Farrar is my guest guys. You can see him. I'm all weekend in off the hook comedy club tonight Thursday night through Sunday one of the best shows of the year feel-good show of the year. That's what I like it and everybody laugh. I why do I like. I like coming to see you guys. Ever you know your mom and dad sit in the corner and every time I do so to make some live. I always look over. Ed still need that. I know I get that as an adult every day and I work with them but you know when I get is the ear beaten everyday from the other the parents they get. It's not good enough. You still do this every day. Do you think it's enough. You're fine every day. Can I have some economic extra side guilt yeah exactly so you told me when we got an congresswoman. You've got a new show on CBS. All access show called why Women Kill Hill. It's from Mark Sharon the guy that created desperate housewives. I've got a recurring role on that show and Spencer. It's unique showcase takes place in three different decades the sixties the eighties eighties and current day and it's about three couples that live in the same mansion in Pasadena Wa different decades and unfortunately things go awry and ladies get get upset and tell me about the difference between being on like a like a network television show and being seen onstage as a comedian because I know the comedians go through but what is it like to be on a network show like that. You've been on so many rescue me nurse. Jackie is this new the show and then we talked about your podcast but teller for you to preference yeah like is there. Any preparation is different live. I get dental yeah. It's not giving you shit. I don't get a piece of Salmon Agai- at the food is good at Captain Brian Examining Spinach. Yeah a little plug he gave me on your podcast Ferrara podcast. It's one thirty thirty minutes eleventh back. There are areas doing great but if they go back to interacting the thing I like about acting as I'm not stamps great but it's the the best part of is being Is your loan. You know the audience is Great. This is great because it's an interaction so you go from being by yourself traveling by yourself to like the Spike Beichman wound back to yourself acting. You're you're. You're in a bunch of people around and it's a it's a collective cooperative place to be so good set and I've been you work a lot of fun. Do you have a really good like really good memorization skills or how's that work by listening dyslexic the stress would kill me like a lines that'll be synced. Elena lines and then being eight thirty in the morning. I'm doing an episode of criminal momentum lines and playing the father of a kid gets abduct Brian so I got a breakdown in the FBI office and cry. It's eight thirty in the morning. I shot of the day so you can go a two full cry. I I had to then but you learn how to shoot the master first then they come in on your coverage and that's when you gotTA. Really emotionally get to we gotta get. Did you get tears. I do you tell you you can do it yeah. Wow you're like a real man. I was almost before when you said we got to put this thing on the radio. It's eight thirty cry into yes so that's that that part of it John John John John Hayden. How are you my friend. He's sweet weadock. Great Funny Guy Total Nice Man John so you cried cried eight thirty in the morning and remember the lines and remember. I'll be shitting myself know. How many lines are they make you. That's the thing I wonder. How many lines do you have to remember it once. They cut it depends on the scene. You know you'll have a long senior. Eleven monologues sink I had a big monologue in some episode of rescue page and those those you have to those you Kinda yeah this whole up in and just improvise it or no rescue me was a lot of that stuff Dennis Rhody Yeah so then you know so we've Bhim Singh with. I remember once we we like attaches not working. Let's just get in a fight okay. I stunt guys came in everything up. I came over to the desk and we Scott Blah. It depends on the director and the writer so people real picky about the way you say the wrong word. It's written if a reason and Morton and other people just like that's good. That's about all my one he has to do. You have to give the script as written. Usually I yeah and then then you can use like if you go up. I'll try and save something or if you just want to try some different right it depends on the direct and when you're feeling your character character kind of says stuff too right 'cause you is that agile. He can the Catholic stuff but you're going to get blamed yeah yeah but like when you're when you're in full character like would you feel sometimes like I'll say this I could honestly tell director or Ozzie Tele Writers. I'M GONNA look I don't I've been living guy for while he's not going to say that why and sometimes they can go. I don't care where sometimes you're right. You do it again. It depends on ice depends on how long you've been doing this show and the vision of the show I mean I think about rescuing and Jackie Jackie and everything is the director changes every week right there every week. Yeah the director's going. Sometimes you get usually get all that. They have a different director most most most do every week a new director coming just because it's a Lotta work you got the directors there for every shot every shot and he's gotTa Work Overlook. The Post production so he's you physically can't into it so you might rotate some directors and they'll be new directors that come in but they change every week art the companies there. I feel like rescue me and a big budget Maija because they get in on trucks ain't cheap. I'm saying right now do the almost they just lease and they were real trucks arch or sixty two hugh trucks we donated to the Philadelphia Fire Department. No way you guys bought sixty two. Donald trump was number sixty two gotcha and we would do in the tower theater me. Dennis Lenny Clark Kenny Rogers Great and so we were doing that and they they donated trucks and we came out and we actually signed the truck that is moss. It was great me. You're good we'd real firefighters. Dr Nils was driving because you can't just get in that of course yeah you have to yeah. That's like a real training. Thing did one one episode we blew up this building and was like three o'clock in the morning fire scene shoot right. Swede helicopter always he's blows my mind when they are able to do those like in regular place isn't really bought the building the building within all the special effects guys. I'm saying you sent got. It looks real. Halley seem so huge huge source like two three o'clock in the morning. We're uptown right and this big fire truck. There and your adrenaline going course are walkie talkies in his fire safety meeting and everything so I played the chief so I was in the suburban and nils was a real five guys driving big trucks. Everyone's loaded into the truck and it dawned on me right then. Danielson Giada was driving home and I looked over and they said hey can you just a dopey active. I think I think so action and who just filed for so what about the guy in the back the swing guidance that we all have so we had the guy draw right because the guy the bags he he's got a tough job to yeah I couldn't do because I'd be like this fish tale a hey right. I'd be like Oh skies where I'd be hanging the thing out yeah. We asked to totally lose concentration. You didn't would be so kind then. What's the most memorable scene you shot. I'd always stop. The most memorable Seattle was the one you like. Now is ongoing went to we were doing tell if button is I'm GONNA go back to the top because that was just unbridled stupidity. I I jumped the caddy about forty fear on our first second episode and you went up left and right so on Youtube or the flying cooped eh that was okay. That was good no way Johnson. Did they have the car suspension steel. I supposed to do it all really it was supposed to leave the ground. Since it was the seventy six on the top I had an eight dollar motocross helmet on and they took the seat belt. Tanta Fausto seatbelt pulled onto the headrest and just pulled it tight and that was it online. I've been handed. It was like all my I did. One hundred eighty eight in a twelve Berlin Causeway in Utah that was was the shutdown or no yeah we locked it was locked down there but the Berlin we have twelve they can tops out to twelve miles now. I've got a book eighty eight and then I was like back. That's how like how fast is them around one forty or so the car start getting light which we could compete coming up. Okay okay so any movement like that death really. Oh Yeah Yeah but you can feel it. You'll feel about twenty on the highway in graph on a few times and cars and I think I did want fifty on a motorcycle once as a kid like I was crazy my cal L. I saw an episode a motorcycle episode and I would buy a big old Harley because I don't probably fit that that mold oh but I love. I love all that I think the motorcycle to scale I was. I would buy big Harley by my own street NERF. Everything Perceptions Steve Do scary. I like those guys on the on the sport bikes we see them on the highway passing just the other day me and my salad drive it down the highway freaking really someone really right by our big balls are crazy. Crazy huge nuts yeah. I mean not happening my brother in law my my brother in law passed away in a motorcycle accident but he was a straight daredevil like he was. BMX Racer where we race motocross race mountain black bikes race motocross. He needs just never done a lot of the system. That is not the case I I. I admire the guys that can do that and it was fun for a little while but if I can't do it in traffic right I I see some of these people probably going to work coming from where Jay Wright adrenaline junkie or they just have much of a rush to get to work. I don't no no but I'd be like I gotta live. I won't can't write back also thinking like you're GonNa have a variety of the day. It's not going to be in the morning on the way to work work. It's GonNa be like full gear. You know but they just go out at it. Not Me me neither yeah but it's the rescues skis too much heat. Is there any car that you haven't driven that you. WanNa drive the new the new mid engined corvette the as Oh yeah driving mingy corvette. I WANNA drive lesser of vehicles at our disposal. What are you. I don't know I'm just thinking like I have a few different options. I forgave me for a couple of days. I had the new bullet Mustang Yeah it's five leader but the blue stripes no a shelby the the bullet mustangs from the Steve McQueen movie Bullet Island Green. It's blacked out and the Nice thing about new mustangs. They REV match. When you downshift the car rev of matches for your lips the gas and you actually or shift. I would like to drive sixty three ninety fastback. That was the the bullet card love to draw the batmobile. I love Dr I got I got the battle the joker batmobile. What'd you got what is purple herbals the car the Batmobile Lincoln Future was not that one. What's the one avait none of eater. Is it a vader what it's called the vader. I think that's Darth vader ship. That's my body at full throttle exotics as one of those which one which took from which the movie yeah I thought the cars called the baiters that might be the which which generation batmobile original one no. It's not the original. Tumbler Ambler was cool. It's one of the bad ass riser what happened. No the GOPRO by the way. Do you know that they only recorded nine nine in minutes a clip in the the the battery life's only twenty nine minutes. I do now. How do we get to learn on the Captain Brian edme recording with a Gopro Rosen. I thinking like Oh. I gotta go get a bunch of GOPRO. It's going to be so easy. No it's would work so anyway. Arts Pain Heart Gopro spot after the show so let's say you know what I'm saying by show's brought to you by caffeine but I can't in yeah. If you want you know Karn Arn through some goal we get when you go. I mean I give Lambeau Zarar. He's whatever all is one of my favorite. Lambeau was the Balboni because it was rear rear wheel drive just Kinda rare for a Lamborghini and it was the test driver for Lamborghini was a guy named Balboni. They made this cofferdam really all yeah we had on the show had had the MEL shift plates or you get that click when he's yeah that's fun yeah. You're really doing great. I enjoyed that show had high still catches catches mini episodes because it's not all right though the end of the day all the time say they want to send them so I always watch on demand all the time to check out a episode. Not It hasn't has it been watched. I watched it for fun my son. I love it. big fan big fan that. I don't care for the show. I love thank. You slept a funny anyway so so at off the hook tonight tonight Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday to great great I love I like your Gig. 'cause it's a family join yeah and that always appeals to me and the food is really going on. You can't bring you you gotta be. At beginning to bring them all family owned and operated as it is it is that's why memorizing family I get into comedy. And what else am I qualified but it'd be how did it start. Did you just jump on a station opened. My Yeah I got I got to college. I told my parents well. We've done what of your things and I went on. What was the job you firsthand my. I had my last straight. John was a dishwasher at a savings. Yeah Savings Packer. Where kitchen did they serve they had was the corporate offices. The whole the corporate office of white guys with dietary needs so that every they put a gopher everyone's just so it was a lunchtime gig. I showed up at nine in the morning. I was done at three in the afternoon and I just wash dishes working this little kitchen. There was a chef a waiter waiter and me that was a that was sous-chef and it was four people in there so I started as the dishwasher because it was part time it was a gig every week and I could go out at night and to stand up How'd you decide. You wanted to be a comedian. What was the I started doing. I did the open. Mike and I went this appeals right. I don't know how long this is going to last but it was there one moment where I got my I laugh out like this feel when you hit a golf ball right. Get the Ping Yeah Okay okay. This feels right and I got My Dad pushed me. which was the greatest their yearly yeah? I said he would support me as well in anything I did. They always they do exactly so. I could see that so your dad but that was a big thing for me because I always wanted to be. I WanNa be like my dad but I didn't have the mechanical ability. That's cars yeah because my dad could fix them. I can't fix in Ryan right the lift up to hug that should be assigned assigned. Call the guy you exactly nothing there anymore. was there so I was always like didn't couldn't find my place. He saw me do stand up and he looked at me and I think I want to do what you do it now. Who's you give it everything you got a good feeling. It's a great and you know what it is. It was like and you don't come from Hollywood showbiz fan now so he was that's for the bad thing right big step but it was for some odd reason then I was given permission y'all grow man but there's still a permission one hundred percent subconscious permission thing so I think that helped me a great deal and the fact that it it was it was I felt right. Doing and it's been what thirty is a still could face Brian. Yeah could be a fad you could grow and I've been there's been support of all through it and even like when I started this podcast. It's the people that showed up to help me. Kevin James is a Franken episode Tony Kornheiser from what did I football. Did one Andrew morning with her. She did one for me by the way guys you gotTa. Go on download the podcast ask for our Adam for thirty minutes. You'll never get back to see my face a great fun and you get to do different things like this episode. This week is an FBI profile. 'CAUSE I like serial killers for some weird I couldn't be I. Couldn't you know why I'm I'm Catholic Gilbert. I look I know you didn't mean I'm not GONNA kill. You might give you the finger. Stop Light. That's about how you do. I get road rage and if I'm in traffic and the better be damn reason for the travel really I like down here. You guys you if you're not where or you're going by four o'clock in Florida. You're not getting it till eight. I I actually the only time I really get upset. When I'm driving is when I'm at a light and I'm the first guy at the light and the split second. The light turns the Guy Behind. I'm like really dude. Come Amman anything bigger than you if I'm going to lean and I got someone tailgate me and my what I'm telling you yeah. There's a whole road here. I'm on. PTO Gas Pal the the riot guys this is the captain's log podcast and my guest Anna Adam Ferrara's all weekend at off the Hook Comedy Club do us a favor. Adam told me I got to tell everybody to go on rate the PODCAST. We're watching it gives us a good rating at least rate him because he's sexy if you'll like me at based on his performance today right and this the captain's log so you could find anywhere anywhere download it get it say hello. We appreciate you wash it but right now. We're going to be on be one or three point nine big bomb in the wild bunch. We're coming live tune in then. He's watching guys we out.

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78: The Freedom Model of Addiction Treatment with Mark Scheeren & Michelle Dunbar

The Addicted Mind Podcast

41:07 min | 1 year ago

78: The Freedom Model of Addiction Treatment with Mark Scheeren & Michelle Dunbar

"Hello everyone. Welcome to the addicted. Mind podcast broadcast. My Name's Dwayne Osterlund and I'm your host. I'm also the founder of Novus Mindful Life Institute Family Counseling and Recovery Center in Long Beach. California the -fornia. If you are anyone you know is struggling with any of life's challenges. Please reach out to us. You can find more information about us at the victim mind nine dot com forward slash help so before we start this episode. I have a favor to ask. I want to hear from you and I wanNA hear your story so go to the addicted. MIND DOT COM and Click on the TAB that says share your story. You'll have ninety seconds inst- offer your message of hope to others out there who are still struggling and my hope is to have your voice as part of you've the addicted. Mind podcast so that your voice can help others out there who are still struggling if that feels like a fit for you and that's something you WanNa do. I encourage you to go check it out and share your story. Also if you're enjoying the addicted mind please rate and review I tunes tunes or share the podcast with a friend and don't forget about our facebook group. This go to facebook and type in the antique defined podcast. Click join answer a few questions and and we can continue the conversation there as well. All right we are onto episodes seventy eight and our guest today is Mark Sheeran. He ran and Michelle Dunbar of the Baldwin Research Group and they are going to talk about their non twelve step non disease model of addiction treatment called the freedom model title and I really enjoyed our conversation. I love hearing from other people about their different thoughts about addiction and addiction treatment event. Now in doing this episode. There is definitely some things that I wholeheartedly agree with both mark and Michelle and there are other parts of the two that I really have to do some thinking about and contemplating on but I love having thought provoking interviews and really hearing. Different perspectives gives about addiction. So I really enjoyed doing this episode and really enjoyed our conversation and I think you guys will enjoy it as well all so with that said. Let's go ahead and start this episode. L. Everyone welcome to the addicted. Mind podcast my my guest today is mark Sheeran and Michelle Dunbar and we're gonNA talk about the freedom model though you guys won't introduce yourself chart. I'm Mark Sharon Iran and I'm the chairman of Baldwin Research and also one of the co-authors of the freedom model. I also co founded the Saint Jude retreat. which is where are we? Teach the freedom model show and I'm Michelle Dunbar. And I'm one of the co-authors in the data model and most of the Executive Director Balden Research. I'm the director of our retreat and I teach the program as well. Yes awesome great so tell me a little bit about you guys and how you came to addiction work and doing this work okay. Well off. We'll start with me. I'm fifty years old. And while forty nine close yeah and thirty years ago when I was nineteen gene got into a pretty serious driving accident and I made the determination that I needed to change my life which I did do and then I was mandated into treatment. And I disagreed with what. They're teaching me A- vehemently. I said I'm not forever going to be an alcoholic. I don't drink anymore and I had such a bad experience in treatment that I said there's got to be a better way and after I got out of treatment eighteen months later I said I'm going to figure out a better way for people and and within a year I had coined the phrase non twelve step. So that's where that whole idea. Culturally came from. Was this at that point. Nineteen turning twenty eight year old kid saying there has to be a better way well. There wasn't a better way back in nineteen eighty nine. There was no other form of there was no alternative to the twelve steps or rehab or treatment so I went through twelve year period of research. In that time I met Michelle as well and we did the research together her over a period of twelve years long with some other people Jerry Brown who was my research mentor and we developed the skeleton of. What is today? The freedom model than the subsequent years perfected that into the free bottle and published all the data that we collected over the last thirty years helping thousands of people who thank you for sure and all of that Michelle. Tell me a little bit about you. Actually I right around the same time period. I'm a little older. I'm fifty one and actually early fifty one and a half now because no member and my mark. My father in a inmates nate was net. Eighty nine eighty eighty nine and I was still very much of drinking and drug and partying pretty hard. But I did go to my father for help. I was twenty me too and but I could joining for a few days. I actually experienced withdrawal symptoms. I was drinking now heavily off for about the last six months of my drinking and and my dad was had been sober for about ten years and he was he was in a but he was already kind of a heretic because he win Gel bigly alcoholic and it was a weird like from a young age. I was told I was going to be an alcoholic by drag and then all of a sudden he did a one eighty on me and he was saying how there's no the thing is an alcoholic and and my was not you know what I was intrigued. And he had a bunch of young guys that he was working and I didn't realize he was doing. Research unknowingly became one of the only female research subjects and his research project and when he told it was. You don't have a disease. You're not powerless. You weren't born into this. This is a temporary problem and you can be okay man. I'd never heard that before. I worked on a school for psychology and I learned everything you could ever learn about addiction. It was trying to fix myself and I watched my grandmother die of cancer. Canceling knew the difference. You know I knew that. There was a behavioral issue. There wasn't a you know a pathological issue and so that you know I over the last I. I kind of moved on with my life. I did a for a while but we were always heretics you know we were always telling people that could be okay and we really really get tried to change it from within. I think mean more than they did on so I you know it went to seven years of meetings sponsored hundreds of women and the research we really trying to figure out what parts of the program work on and we wanted it to work. We wanted to figure that out and you know after you know twenty years or so now actually was he now. Lungs twelve to fifteen years ended up throwing everything out on and that was really when we began to develop a program that works on on and we were just working with people at the retreat. One unwind on all that time and that's our freedom model developed awesome so you had the experience with twelfth step and it really didn't fit for you guys. It didn't feel right. You didn't like this isn't working. And Kinda said wait a minute but seven years is a long time so it sounds like you really dug in and said wait a minute. There's something not right about this or there's something more out there or this isn't working. Why thank that? We both came from heavy heavy heavy heavy a background both of our families were steeped in in treatment and a a and so. That's where the research it's really began with. The children was as kids and then and that when I said I twelve years out of the thirty that we've been studying this was spent in a a trying desperately to make it work and become more effective but we were heretics at the same time. So there's this real horrendous dichotomy because we're a says you you basically never get over the problem we were saying. Of course you do we had and so we were. I went to over three thousand eight meetings and basically as as a member in the beginning then as a skeptical member then as a researcher and then as a researcher that was fairly anti got some point where I said you know. None of what they're saying is true. When I learned the history when I really understood the facts and you know I love day I mean we hearted there but the facts are the facts? Are The facts accent a researcher when you look at the facts you find out that the disease is bunk is simply is not true. It's factually incorrect. It's misinformed and that people do in fact move on over ninety percent of drug addicts or people with a heavy substance use problem move past it as you factor in age so as we get older we get over the problem whether you treated treated or not you know they ignore this huge elephant in the room that people get over the problem so treatment isn't necessary contrary to popular belief and so that's a huge part of the freedom that you have to undo the mythology so that you can become free and move on yes you don't tied into recovery right so that's very different from. I'm the twelve step model where they're saying. Look you're an addict for life. This is what you have to do. This is what you have to experience. And that's never gonNA change correct and for young people and a lot of the research for stunned around young people and you know so as a twenty two year old and a and a nineteen year old and the idea that I was going to have to struggle forever and I watched my grandfather do it. My grandmother died in Withdrawal FM alcohol. I mean we have a longlining Irish jokes in my family and you know I watched him struggle. You put together years of sobriety and I thought I back can't be me. There's there's no way I'm GonNa live you know Joe I'm sixty years old doing this right. What would you say to the people out there who say you know what twelve step really helped? It's me I really got a lot of support and I really value twelve step. Well I think that it becomes a valuable paradigm for certain people serve people need it as a social social club. They needed as a place to go where they feel special where they feel. If you believe you're an alcoholic or an addict it fits right. It fits there's a whole structure around being a special alcoholic and I don't say that in a way that I went to three thousand. Aa Remember. Numbers I was deeply entrenched member so I understand that side of the fence completely. I enjoyed the distraction that a provided to life enjoyed the fact that I can go and speak with like minded people but eventually it wore itself out Sunday so and it does for most people. That's the membership obey is stayed. I'm pretty it hasn't grown a long time. It stayed pretty stagnant. Which means are and when you think of how many people are mandated into it like through the court it systems and from treatment programs? Then you know that lot whole lot of people don't stick out on Francis stay pretty sad. It's actually shrinking a little bit. Yeah it's been on a downward cycle all now for fifteen years. Yeah and you know when I look at it like you know no in the history of twelve stop where it came out of a religious paradigm and I think the saddest part is that people who are struggling at the time in the thirties. When twelve step was formed the medical community shun them as moral deviance and so all these people who wanted help created their own system to do it unfortunately it was untied to medical research and there was a lot of stuff in it that came out of the religious community of how to change and how to make change? And I think that stayed with it but I do. Do you think it is changing. I mean I think addiction is now brought back into the medical field looking at it through the Lens of research rich and trying to understand my belief is how human beings do we change our behavior. How does behavior manifest itself? What tools do we need to us to be able to to to live our best life to do that so I mean to me I understand? Well how twelve step developed it. It makes sense. There was nowhere else to go. You Know Oh but I also think that the addiction treatment community has to be open to new ideas and changes and look like what you're doing looking at the research and just looking at it even benefits uncomfortable to look at. We have to look at that and make the changes. We need so that people can get the help that helps them function to with their best life right. That's exactly correct. You know the whole the really what we put together in the freedom model is we took. Every single myth that exists exists in the recovery culture in our society today and there's a ton out there is an anarchist. There's twenty three chapters which is basically twenty three three of the grand met's that people are told the end now. They're told from grade school on. Yes that they're susceptible to addiction. None of these things are written in stone or are true so we go through each meth. And we debunk it. So that the person can then make a choice as to what are the benefits of my use. Why do I feel feel? There is utility in me using riot because people use because they like get something about it they feel like it's doing something for them that they can't get someplace else like they believe that they're getting certain benefits and that there can be happier doing it then they can be not doing. The happiness is very relative there right and so we go through. And if you feel enslaved by drug or if you feel like addiction happens bins to you right that it some sort of affliction that comes from the outside in while then you're always at the mercy of treatment for which is also on the outside coming in and much like a pathogen Kazan the disease ideal and then you on antibiotics that comes in challenges that but the freedom all isn't that says why internally do you make a decision and why are you motivated to US based on your behavior based on your belief system based on maybe a lot of myths that you're living your life by why and then if we get rid of those myths and then we figure out why you actually like it on the front end ends up ad you know but why do you like this process of getting high and drunk and then would you be happier doing it. Less or abstaining but that last part is very difficult if they're fettered entered by all of these myths that say it's happening to them and they feel a victim of it or enslaved by or compelled by it so we have to get rid of the compulsion idea the of the enslaved idea the idea that drugs have powers elusive magic powers to take away stress anxiety. All these cultural ideas that are in fact that's not true and so we have to undo that and then we can ask the fundamental question. Would you be happier abstaining or moderating your use and then people get it and they become free right right. Help me understand a little bit though. One of the questions I have is as you were talking is that we know that when you do a substance or a certain behavior that it does has changed our neuro chemistry. That's a reality. We know that drugs do that. And so they change how we feel physically change. Our body is that it undermined by the pharmacological effects. Right of self and there are certain substances that created dependence. Where you get with you have a drawl if you stop? That's very much a medical issue but it doesn't force people to keep using nobody or whenever anybody got dependent they wouldn't be able to stop and the truth is nearly everybody. Does they want to jump on that because think about this rain. Changes be damned. Ninety percent of drinkers quit whether they're treated or not again ninety ninety eight percent of crystal meth addicts. Stop whether their brain changes are not ninety nine percent of cocaine users ninety eight percent of heroin users. I quit whether treated or not even though their brains changed so brain changes and chemical changes within the physical structure of the rain is normal. This is the problem with coming from a medical direction and saying compels us and that's the point. Michelle just made just because your brain changes doesn't mean gene that you're compelled to us here. Treatment says your brain changes in because the brain changes. You can't stop yet. They say you have to hit a bottom so you have to stop when your brain has changed the most so riches it right well. It's interesting because I was doing another podcast episode and we were talking about the mythology of the rock bottom. You know that many people and what this person does is you know. He works with a lot of people who are are if you WANNA call it. I don't know if this is the language you would use but you know in the beginning stages of this process of struggling with a substance or whatever where it's not so you know they haven't had any major consequences but they're realizing like oh maybe this isn't the best thing for me and that you know he's saying you you'll get help then if people need hell no get help then I mean you don't have to go and destroy yourself you know and go into this myth of this horrible rock autumn to get better. I mean I would agree with that yet. What the only point people have to come to a point where they start to think boy? This isn't really serving me well anymore. I think I wanNA make a change. Change that for most people. That's where they get you and that's how they change it really the rock bottom danger. It is totally subjective. So how so far down do I go and I would say the only definitive rock bottom is now. That's the black and white answer. So do we wait until until they overdose eight times or nine years the reality of what Michelle just said in that is most people quit long before then if they're not exposed into the idea that you need to rock bottom right they don't go down that path rice did they simply don't so we're teaching the wrong things things to people and people can get over the problem and do this. Tiny percentage of people that go to treatment get caught in the recovery and treatment contract which is a tiny percentage of those that use that are the most studied. So what happens. Is this massive group of people and I mean massive percentage wise. That actually gets over. The problem without treatment is ignored so we didn't ignore that as researchers we said Holy Cow. What is this other ninety? Eight percent up drinkers. Yeah what are they once qualified as addicted and now. They're not and have people to once qualified. His alcoholics are now moderate drinkers right. And they didn't do it through some program they didn't learn it some book. They simply moved on. It is is more natural to move on from an addiction than it is to keep one. It is much more natural for a human being to change than it is to remain static in a behavior so this idea of teaching people that they are doomed to go down a single path that is chronic. It's just bullshit I mean it's just not true until we teach it then it becomes true right becomes their reality and we have then made them a word of the treatment complex. And that's the problem in America today right and so who would I hear you saying is like in a way. Moving that locus of control back to the self. Yeah yes that's the that's the key and also and I think it's important because we you touched on something a while back about the moralistic side of it. A lot of people mistake the free tomato. Draw saying we just need to stop. It's a bad thing to do. And that's not at all and we actually don't even approach it way. We talk in the book about substance. Use people wanted the older their minds since the beginning of times. So there's you know we don't have a judgment on if somebody do prefer heavy intoxication nation now without Holler whatever drug. That's okay. We want to approach it from wherever somebody is on. That's part of you know the whole idea the calling it. A disease reduces stigma as absolute bomb. It doesn't exist because there's a stigma on heavy substance use itself on so he can't by calling it a disease increase Dhingra on instead. We WanNa get you a position where we say to somebody. Whatever ever you like is what you like? Let's get you to the point where you know that you like it or you wouldn't keep doing it because nobody does anything they don't want to do. And then once we figure figure out what you like about it then we can work towards seeing if you can be happier doing lesser known at all right so they make that decision themselves based based on the awareness. Being able to talk about it getting out of this disease mythology that you're saying and the moralistic now puritanical. Views of it as well. WanNa get away from that too. Because that's what keeps people from really getting to the heart of why. They're struggling because Shane sits in the in the away and I would definitely agree with that. I mean shame as a huge. You know if someone can't talk to other people I mean if you can't talk to somebody else and get reflected back your reality. It can be hard to be able to see it right and if you have shame you do that right so I totally get that. We need to be able to talk with others and help them help us. See what we can always see ourselves right and I definitely agree that one question. I'm wondering it though as you're talking I mean some of it I see and I agree with and some I'm wrestling with. I mean I look out at the OPIOID epidemic right and to to me. We have this huge increase in opiate. Use Right which towels to me and I'm not quoting research or anything but I'm just wondering like well that's that's a chemical substance. That's impacting people's brains. You know I've worked with clients who had no history of addiction and they get a knee injury and they get on these very strong powerful. Opiates and it is really hard for them to stop right. You know and so I'm wondering how does that fit into that. Kinda sorry. It helped me understand that scenario and reo a little bit more from your perspective. First of all I wanNA address. Typically Stephen Answers the big question. Stevens are resident opium expert. But I've done it enough. The real data is that there are less people obese today than there were ten years ago they started. Prescribing level has gone down but the vast majority of people that are dying. Ah that are dying from overdose or recreational opiate users and they were recreational opiate users from the beginning. There's a narrative out there now that even when I'm been here since ninety two so we went from having we had always been mobile users while he's at Enron uses. Come in and right up until about two thousand in twelve. Every single opiate use of the came in did not follow the narrative of I had back surgery and addicting but since two thousand twelve every single opiate user. That's come through here. We've had quite a few use that narrative because it's the accepted narrative because it's not okay to say. I was given some bills at a party and I really liked it and I kept doing it and now how because it's cheaper. I could see that I could definitely see how that would be more acceptable narrative to say the people that are dying are dying from for two reasons and most of them have been through at least one treatment program and they are dying because of illegal because of the black market. So you WANNA reduce. You'll be a deaths. We have to legalize allies drugs and we have to start regulating them. Okay that's number one. Because other countries they've done it it's worked okay number two. When people go to treatment the prescribed multiple psychotropic drugs so the other reason that blur dying is because they have multiple substances in their system? So they can provide prescribe cried. benzoate antidepressants antipsychotic. Then they go out and suboxone or Methadone then they go on they decide. I don't feel good enough I want to go back to using heroin. And guess what you know you had dollars's switched and they die. Yeah so so you have Easter things working against adjuster but this opioid dots have been that. They've gone up exponentially in the last ten years since threaten came on the scene so fat is the main problem which is because of black market drugs and it's also been since boxing has been prescribed very very heavily. Now I'm not you know down on boxing. I just don't think every single person needs beyond it forever and ever and ever and so you do not a lot of these people that are dying have been on and off the SA- boxin train you know. So and they're getting the wrong information feel like they're compelled to us. I love being able to hear or other people's options and viewpoints on all of this stuff because we need all the information we can people are out there suffering and absolutely and we gotta find what's going to work and we need all the different voices in this debate in my opinion but okay so tell me a little bit about when you're working with someone And tell me a little bit about how this freedom model works on. What do you do and how do you do that? Okay so a person would come to our retreat while we have a few different ways some people people just get the book and move on they breathe material and they move on some people have what's called private instruction where they do exactly what we're doing right now but one on one where where they're at home we send them the materials and we have classes one on one s and obviously that's a cheaper option and then other other people come to our residential retreat. So let's say that somebody shows up the door. They come through our retreat. I would have a class with them. One on one. Michelle would have a class with them. One on one or steep slate eight. What and they would each weekday? They have two classes one in the morning. One in the afternoon we're going through the freedom model curriculum net actual four hundred fifty debate book chapter by Chapter. Depending on the conversation will pick a chapter that addresses where they are at that single day or that class period we without sort of an introductory period at the beginning of class. They tell me what's on their mind what they're struggling with what method they believe in. It could be a number of things and I go out. You need to do chapter four and be ready have highlighted and ready for the following class. Oh each class works on to the next class and then we covered the topics. They highlight this actions. We discuss what they highlight whether they disagree whether they want to critique it debate me or something that they found really helpful and then we have a discussion in class and that's how it's formulated Saturdays. We go up a mountain so the we did it today instead. Sunday's our open house where their family can come in and contrary to every other we have. We don't take their cell phone away. We don't think laptops away. We don't treat them like babies were or criminals. There's none of that our doors are open. Opened they all have a single room. Beautiful Place Yeah. So it's just an incredibly conducive quiet learning environment. They spent three to four weeks with us us. They go through that whole correct young by the time they leave us. The mets are undone. They know that they can be free. And they usually chosen either moderation or absence while and they can have as much contact with us as they want. We only have six people here at a time and so we a lot of times people might choose to stay in contact with us by taxed or own own. I'm over the first few weeks or months at their home and they find that very very helpful. Yeah going on. Yeah and we're happy to do that for them so working with them to understand their own thinking about addiction from this different perspective giving them the space to figure that out for themselves as they figure out what is GONNA fit for them. Yeah during since I'll give you an example when somebody goes home and they let's say they they pick to abstain and all of a sudden. They have a whole heaping amount of time which is a resource that was sucked up by getting high and in some cases it was an all venture right so before they left. We did a portion called life movements where they've listed out all these activities different things new goals all all these different things that they're gonNA do when they go home because they had now have an open resource time which is our most expensive and wonderful resource right and so when they go home they say okay. I'm trying this. I'm swinging the BAT. This activity this activity. This one isn't working to mark in their tax demand. I say well skip it right. Jumped out on the side cross off. Let's move on to item number seven. Let's kick some ass. Let's have some fun and you would be amazed at how excited people get. Because they know they're free they know they have the capacity to move on with their lives and they know it's not a matter of strength or weakness. They know it's just a matter of choices to be made and boy people when they get that concept. That is not a matter of strength that it's a matter of choice is they don't have to struggle. The does not be daily struggle goal yet. We get rid of that. It's not a struggle. It's a matter of really looking at your options. And saying what makes me the happiest without judgment and when you take out shame and all of that and people are able to analyze the utility or futility of their use they get it and it just needs somebody need a sound that off of you know guy what about. I'd be curious to about your view on the impact of trauma on individuals who are struggling with addiction. Yeah well everybody has trauma so what we have. A chapter called learn connections in that is that our culture has connected connected trauma stress depression anxiety to drug use that was not even a commonly held belief even twenty to fifty years ago that this is something that has been narrative narrative that has been pushed by the psychiatric movement so and the Treatment Movement because if you have stress trauma anxiety depression choice pretty much every substance user which every human being need of therapy. Because you're always always at risk of getting high or drunk so what we do. Is We separate life problems from this choice of getting high and drunk we look at getting getting high and drunk as a choice. No different than eating toast but the Brahmins got all this mythology. So that's what you're asking is a complex process. I get rheumatology. Then then we look at okay. You're getting high for these personal reasons. where the maybe because of trauma right and then we say? Let's see what the trouble has. Nothing nothing to do with getting high. They are not currently connected right. They're not causal. They may be a reason using reasoning as a reason to go get. Hi But let's talk about that. We have a chapter called causes versus reasons. And when they start to realize that they have consciously connected their trauma to I use and that it's not an inherent connection that is causal. Suddenly they have control over both then. We separated with that knowledge and we deal with the trauma Separa- and so let me just make sure I understand so in a way saying you have this trauma it may impact. You may impact your affective states such as depression anxiety or fear. Whatever it is which is an uncomfortable state? Do turn to alcohol drugs. Whatever it is compulsive behavior whatever you WANNA call it that you might not call it that but to relieve those feelings and shift those feelings? You always say that's the belief then we say. How is that working for you? Yeah you right some people say yes. It has in that we address that right so but has it actually been effective tool right but more importantly the narrative is that the two are connected that your trauma does 'cause you're us so I would say in that class. Hey so you use it as a reason. So we build that bridge I and they say yeah I guess I do I consciously I do. I want escape from the trauma I say okay. Has It worked. And they usually will say that really when they really mind for it. They still feel the pain of the trauma in some cases. It's pretty wicked drama array. I've gone really awful things in my life. I understand it and then it's well let's separate these. You don't have to get high if you have trauma that's number you want. Let's talk about the trauma. What's also talked about whether it's effective to get high when you feel this way and then we challenge the belief that it actually relieves trauma? Because it doesn't it cannot even a little bit camp pharmacologically takeaway trauma because trauma object of the mind. It's not an object of the body and drugs affect the body. They don't affect the mind. They can't change the content of your thoughts right. They can't change the trauma right. I mean one thing I would say though where I might take take a little bit of issue with that. And that's a lot of vessel vendor clogs research about how trauma impacts the nervous system and I mean that very much is in the body and I mean I understand the idea that look. You're using your addiction to mass. Those feelings I get that but also I do think think trauma is in the body. Now we're saying the same day. Okay we're just saying it doesn't compel you to use drugs or alcohol. The majority of people that suffer charm. And don't drink get drunk because of that. Yeah no I totally agree with that like it comes down to a choice that we make to deal with whatever experience we don't know how to deal with and this. There's an easy way to do it. Do you believe easy if that makes sense and not necessarily not necessarily effective not necessarily easy. But you know maybe it's the the only way we know we challenge believe that it'll help them if people believe. They need a cupcake every time they felt stressed. They need a cupcake. You know what I mean and clearly a cupcake doesn't hope stress so it's the same thing presence believe that alcohol and drugs somehow really makes cultural about relieve stress stress and really bad feelings and so we just ball we do the freedom model is we just let people know that. It doesn't have the power to do that and it's not and we help them to see that personally like we want them to come to that conclusion that you're right you know. When I was drunk at first I felt better but then I a pullover by that cop and all of a sudden my stress level went through the roof and you know what he leaves? So it doesn't pharmacologically changed the content of your thoughts. Yeah so that's the Real Lynch and of this thing so we challenged the benefit that it's an effective tool so does a can't pharmacologically take away the trauma the stress that you talk rockets in your body all of that is a belief now. So what does a buzz due to get rid of trauma. Even for the brief times people believe it does house is your interpretation of physical. Buzz is a temporary mental vacation that you have given yourself based on the belief right. I did it so it's a MIS attribution. You have decided. Hey I take a couple of Annie's right. I drank on vacation. I take my little vacation. I give myself permission. I feel so you the buzz the physical sensation because that's what drugs do is is a Q.. And we know this from research if you read the book all the research is there. It's a physical to for you to interpret it based on a narrative that you have been taught that it relieves stress as Ibrar brushing all these things. So what's important in there is that you made the decision at the the sensation of a buzz. You gave yourself permission to let go for a little while. And so once they get that and they see the research and we've undone the League of the powers of drugs that we say. Why don't you give yourself permission without getting fucked up? Roy Seems A walk and Auburn. O'Brien or you could decide to like move differently. Yeah and let it go which is hard scary and sometimes difficult but it can be done because everybody has trauma. Yeah right all I want to thank you guys for coming onto the podcast cast. If someone is out there listening struggling what would you wanNA tell them awhile. I WanNa tell them that. We've been there and gene that we can defend the freedom model can help you can reach us directly at eight eight eight four two four two six two six on you can. Can we have youtube videos. We have you to gentle the Pritam. Onnell of our website for the retreat is sober forever. Dot Net our website for for the book and all of our services is offering a model dot org. And we have podcasts ourselves Yuppie addiction so guests yup cool. I think the thing I would like to say is that you can move on from us. Yes I want people to know that this is not a chronic progressive of psychosocial disease. It's bunk and get a copy of the book if you don't believe me I know it's hard for people. I spent literally the first. I thirty years of my life in the treatment system from the age of seven. I've been the therapist I've been to thousands of AA meetings. I understand where you're at. I've had a gun in my mouth I've been I know what it's like to be at the end and have total hopeless and severe trauma in my life but none of that is a problem for me now because I became free by understanding what was actually happening and it's important for people in no they can get on with their lives and pass this. Well awesome thank you guys so so much for sharing your message and definitely your message of hope and empowerment. So I just appreciate it. Thank you so much for coming on the march so much for having US I enjoyed it. It was an honor already. Thank you for listening to the addicted. Mind podcast once again. You can find find all the show notes at the addicted mind dot com forward slash seventy eight. Don't forget about the opportunity to share your story just go. Due to the addicted. MIND DOT COM and Click on the side Tab and if it's a fit for you share your story and and share your words of hope so other people can hear that as well. 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Thor The Dark World (MCU Film) - GMMF

"Do another movie episode of games. My mom phone. I mike alberton. And who had a gun in their brain today. Who's with you tonight. Michael maybe i should stop saying ciba's and i'll get my pants they'll take. Oh god so fairly was after that that was i had nothing just froze. This is the eighth are eight. Mcu episode that. We're doing we have and we are going to be covering the beloved famous most popular. Thor the dark world cohen's a question. Mark sharon italish. I just wanted to build it up like this. I i saw this movie back in when it came out in in this came out in two thousand thirteen. I i remember really liking it in theaters but then after iron man three four million twenty thirteen. You could only go up. There was no going down. I weren't very excited and coming to this movie will will kind of getting high felt this time but this is also a as bill saying before we according to different director than the guy that we hit that you had in the first movie. Yeah it's a guy. By the name of alan taylor who's done some marvelous films like terminator genesis from Did a movie called pollux pavillon. Ninety five that. I don't even i don't even know what that is. An indie flick called. kill the poor. Kill the poor. He's he's he's he's fill. his film. career is not very varied however he did direct episodes for every single incredible. Hbo television series that ever existed. We're talking game of thrones sopranos. The wire oz. He is an extremely decorated tv director. He actually won an emmy for the episode of the sopranos where he killed christopher in season six. I adore soprano. So that makes me very happy but yeah. The guy is a decorated tv director. Not so much in the world of film. So i don't know how much that information gives us about who this guy is what he does definitely for me. Feels like he's not fit for this kind of film and it's almost like why did marvel pick him up and do this. We only did five movies altogether in his career. He the six one coming. So i think thor darko was number three. So that's really weird to pick a guy like that. Yeah and that's six. one Is basically the sopranos prequel moving. I'm actually excited for three hours on. Your did was terminator genesis right. Two thousand fifteen. So yeah. he's not he's not a guy and I think it might translate a little bit into into this. I don't know if it does. It was just an. He's not it doesn't have that kind of experience. And directing tv even though it's he did a lot of beach peo- series sex in the city all that sort of thing it's very different directing tv than it is directing film Just in terms of how your lighting things now like. It was back in the sitcom days where everything was just giant big bright top-down lighting. Everything looks like a sound stage obviously. Hbo dramas are each dramas. Are little mini movies. But energy of a film i think is different than the focus is different so i'm surprised that they would have went with maybe at this time. They didn't feel like at big enough to really go or want to spend the money to go after big directors. I want to say like most movies after this. If you get pretty big directors later movies. Well it's interesting marvel comics in general of always gone the they've always seemed to let the newer guy get a chance now. They've directed a couple of movies. That were indie. Darlings did reasonably well fantastic four right With what's his face with directed that you know. He did not great at all finance directors in the night. The marvel movies are really extremely. Well known mas- look through it. I don't remember but sweden was an age of altron. I don't know if the rooster brothers were really famous before winter soldier. I can't do can't remember it. I don't have. It pulled up at the moment. But i mean because like bill some of the pig directors that you had and i want to say the guy who did black panther who his name is escaping me. At the moment he was a big direct. I mean he's definitely big director. Now i came in. He was back then or not I don't know and remember. Could i do have the entire world information in august literally at my fingertips right now for the russo brothers. Their third movie was captain america the winter soldier so no. They didn't do a lot before that. Oh yeah director of black panther was ryan kugler. That guy what he is saying they don't pick like big name directors. I don't know why it's interesting. Maybe it's also wonder if because marvel movies are such huge time sinks right. well there's a budget director. Really have that kind of time to dedicate to the oversight that marvel movies going to require. They say he they will tony stark. They spent so much million dollars. And tony stark. They got to cut somewhere these movies. Oh right kugler decreed and the new rockies have he's done stuff yeah he did Co wrote directed the creed they black panther and then before that hated movie called fruitvale station which is Supposedly very good and so he was pretty new at the time to the they they do one or two movies and then marvel snatches up. I don't know. I guess to give him a shop different voice. I don't know it's very interesting. How they select their directors. And i know what the original floor when they picked crips chris. Movies forgot to mention in the first or episode. Chris humbert and tom middleton. I want to save. We're new actors at the time that they were kind of taking a gamble on yet chris. Hemsworth really did do much by the way houses face. This time around the task i mean. It's just the eyebrows in that first movie. Everything else since then the got it down pat. He looks fine. But emit is hairs. Little scraggly but it's the movie but there's not make up for okay all right good. I remember seeing one of those posts. Oh this post didn't age well and it was saying something where marvel took a chance for the first store hiring. Tom huddleston and chris hemsworth because at that time chris had only been in three movies before that star trek in one little cameo a perfect a perfect getaway in cash. Whatever the hell those are so it wasn't known now none of these guys really are and Guys and gals so yeah beach thing. Yeah but i guess back the door right. He directed a movie that that exists in this world. And it's a thing just their movie. Think like this is the first movie in the u sequel wise. They ditched the numbers. They just go and i. I love the fact that every movie is just like thor. The dark world. Or you know avengers age of altron. Every sequel just has a subtitle and i love that better than a two or three where you can feel like you can just watch the movie with like. Why didn't see the first draft departs. I can't watch apart to that same idea yet. It isn't a concept. yeah. I never thought of it. That way Yeah having that kind of like continuity without being properly numbered is A smart move wear how they did it for the iram who is on dropped it photos else. Yeah i i r- man was just because it was so in. That was still a thing in the early two thousand but where you get twenty by the time this comes out and twenty thirteen. I feel like a lot of sequels. Do that now. Dress drastic world world world to israel world some other bullshits telecom and we saw. I don't have an excellent. The subtitles of other bullshit had first. Half of that movie is great. And you just cut off moving. You're done that's you don't you don't need to go the mansion nonunion drastic world so i didn't even bothered sequel. That's office i. If you hate the i hate to see for the first one center dacha. Oh jeez i feel it might have been thing in in in in twenty in that time i like. I'm much happier with it. Well hey my favorite trilogy of of all comics the blade trilogy as we hopefully one day discussing we'll get there. It was laid one blade two and then blade trinity which is not great movie butts though other tune up for it and all its glory. Wait until we get there. I really liked play trendy. When i remember but we'll see i'll watch it again. I'm dan for wesley. Snipes mowing down so like with a dark world should get there. It won't it of starts off with a miller model like in the movie where you have amped hopkins character odin doing a monologue about how the dark elves are wiped out by his father and they were trying to destroy the universe or something crappy like that and i like it. How because you don't really have neat to see the first movie to really watch this. You don't even need to see vendors to really enjoy this movie like they'll give you the key points you need. That doesn't have anything. So cool that you're kind of dropped into is university to kind of explain the universes plane you know that's the different realms. It's a little confusing but the information is there to get you in without having to feel like you have no idea what's happening. I am not a fan of their silly looking through mass. Free to damascus. Pretty cool i think. The curse design is very cool They're just really really neat. Is setup you know again. This is kind of like the The backstory that you need to get the ball rolling you know and the nine worlds and lyman talk about conversions worse. The elves lose i. He sacrifices always l. elbruz just to leave. I don't get that bit. But yeah kills all species of people. So that way the distraction to wipe out their army until he can fly away. Yeah it's a good open. It's got some fancy fighting. You gotta all sorts of words and stuff. I don't understand that it's going to create some mystery for me and not that was neat. It was a it was a nice. It doesn't try to explain itself very well but emmy awards. I seen his movies. I i knew where they were going. But i'm like okay. Like i'm i'm on board. It's cool action as a cool scene. I had no problem with it. Malkhaz comics by the way he is. He is a. He is a comic character camera. What year but he's been around for a while really well known but i knew who was. Would you think of the open. It's it's fine like you said. It serves the purpose of opening in the movie. But i have it in my notes as the dark elves. Nope masks just nope. Nope creepy mannequins from condemned. Yeah there you go. Yeah yeah it is good we put it may are like math. Are fucking caribbean. Like the curse is the idea of avak little stone that they they grab the stone squish it and they get all like infected with his power which i felt like it was a least the way i saw it until the into later in the movie that once you did a death sentence like yes you get power but you're only alive for so long before you're done. I don't know they don't explain it too much. They just kind of explained it as they're fighting and then it's i think before they die. They have to do it. Because that's how the the big cursed badge becomes the way he is. I think if there are about to die on battle they can crush the stone and it gives them kind of like phase two. It brings back to life so basically an undamaged. I kept writing dead which is basically what it is. 'cause i i didn't think about that but you're right. They only like when you see the opening scene. They only do it when they're getting massacred. Were injured may. Maybe an addict can't remember and then we'll we'll see that when malcolm x. Right hand man he they want him to become a curse so he stabs mouth mouth stabs as his buddy and it is about to die. He does that cross. Well actually doesn't we'll get there. I thought he implied it. We'll get there. You're right hide it. That's correct you're right. it was the highest. They searched the body but they didn't actually say we'll get there but yeah so me after his monologue and it kinda shows and you get the title card pretty early because i i know that in the sometimes they don't do title card to way later for some reason out now we get our title in it was i was on board like i was enjoying the intro this movie and even like when you and then when i when you go to present day the first time you see loki. Uc low key in change which makes sense if direct continuation of what happened in avengers. But at the same time. It's not like you don't you don't have to see vendors to know what happened like they give you the context really quick to find out. Yeah he killed a lot of people. He did terrible things like he deserves. It's like they. They do a very good job of ax real quick. Yeah and they also anything about this too is that we're again. We're posted injuries. Were opposed the the world being taken over by marvel movies so everybody at this point knows locus. If you've never seen a movie you've seen a cardboard cutout at target you've seen your son's fend friends. Where shirts it i. They've now part of the public consciousness. Loki product the least but he was a major part of vendors. I mean most people now understand it. The movie does not need to rehash what happened. Drop them right here. But you're right. If you come up coming completely blind you see this villainous. Looking dude and chains you go there's villain i bad guy but Yeah sorry for the people that came into the mcu sore dark world. That's what a weird jumping off point. I mean i'm sure it was. Somebody's first movie. Oh the everyone has a i. I hope endgame wasn't i. I hope you caught up a little bit before seeing the one entitled and game and the only move you cannot like you cannot watch movie just watch it or infinity. Well if any work. I am not a game at all but i like seeing local jane like i like that whole thing with his mother leaves and you know like we were going to kill you. But she didn't want to kill you so you're going you're you're gonna pre we're going to imprison you for life. Like i liked all that i thought all that was very very well done. And then what you guys think of the whole vanna heim thing. We're after that it shows you and it shows them all fighting like some fantasy world type of thing. I'll let you take them all right. So i'm gonna be up front about this movie like it's ultimately forgettable re watching. I don't remember any of this and having finished the movie last night. Like oh i didn't retain much information or i don't remember most of this movie except for major plot points so like i have in my notes because i kept. It sounded like they're sent anaheim. But i don't remember any better than that seen. Oh yeah he fights Hintze fight like the goal thing the end that yes which is a reference to the first comic. Is that what. I figured because it made no sense and it was. It was dumb. It was just boring Journey eighty three the first monster that he's ever fight are the rock monster that you see standing there. Also i wanna say that species is the same as you seen thorough With the court lord. That's what i had my notes like court species. I love that part polling. i remember in theaters. I really thought that school now is a little off but you get to see the hell we call back back in like the the friendly bill. You had a name for them. Oh his good grows grows. Grows in one gal i stopped. I kept writing team thor. I realized that was just good rosen. One gal was just too much to handle so their team store now felt the good girl. Show up. I like seeing them fight with a tornado. Like quite an interesting to me that you see other species you see not just random characters who are living in this world different route like i thought all. That was very cool. I'm kind of drew me in his movie. Like when when like dora shows up and you have like the you know he. He kills leader like one shot two breaks them. Yeah this is a good reestablishment. A of his friends you know and what they can do their powers this all this is. It's as far as ac- an action scene goes it's fine. It's it's a well executed. I'm a big fan of being dropped. Some place. I don't understand to have context too so all of a sudden just distract the to a battle like oh fighting time now. Okay then you watch some fighting time but you don't have really any can i didn't have any connection to cousin. Like where are they. Were they fighting for then. I kinda just realize. Oh they're defending one the realms cool let watch. Let me watch rapier man. You know d'artagnan over here. Which is different harry away. Radio is it. Yeah it's not the same guy from or one is so i didn't even notice like yet. Does that zachary levi with weird eyebrows in because the original actor was on with that show very tale show. Abc time he's on what he's the prince and once upon a time he couldn't come back the dark worlds they get they get suzanne instead. Wow okay. I see wow. I didn't catch. It was fine. Good he did a fine job. As being a dashing man of derring-do he's also in a regular out the nessie end of it. And who's the the lady warrior in this. I always forget her name. Her name is sift but the active name is jamie alexander. Okay give me accent okay. We'll sip is awesome and Yet everyone gets their trying. Everyone gets their time. Everyone gets a little time to show off what they can do. It's pretty successful. A little interesting. I just. I just found to be pretty bland. Everything in this movie is on a very steady kind of ho hummed trajectory. It's up boring is just there. It is that's seems over. Its bay flatlined for me With with a couple of very cool spikes but You really didn't like i can't talk about certainly find. It just goes back and forth like this movie. One thing kept thinking as i was watching. This is like everybody's like thor. And jane are always mopey like thorniest wins the battle and they're having a little training thing in his father's like kings just like i miss j this beautiful woman over there. I miss gay. Like i'm yeah to talk about the payoff. That romance they showed up in the first movie. They know that beautifully crafted romance that everyone shipping at this point. No hot guide. Yes jordan hot nordic man on the love story than toilet i. I've never seen them. And i i feel like i don't need to. I can shuffle off this mortal coil without ever doing so so Shall we don't know if you do it one day now. They're good movies learning for fan base. We'll see i. I like to actually have mopey for the first time you see jane. I like i love now important. I gotta say that first movie. I love most things and one thing i did notice like. She is like really really thin in this movie. Like super thin. Like within like it i. I notice that we're watching this aisle trying to seek. She did black swan not that long before. This i was twenty. Ten salads wondered if maybe like because of black swan. She lost a lot of weight and still had kept was still in that. Like kind of what. I'm looking for in that shape for when she did this movie. Yeah possible i didn't catch it. Yeah she's i wife caught it. Yeah it's interesting really thin. Yeah it's the one thing i did like about going back to asgard was it was pretty interesting. He had him unable to celebrate fear. He can't see they're all out his team for. They're all you know drinking. D'artagnan got two women on his arm leg. Hey look at me. i'm ravishing. And it's is interesting. He just can't get into it because he's constantly thinking of jane. I really thought it was interesting. Was basically just forget about her was matter with you. You have jamie alexander sin right. They're giving you give you the eyeballs which stopped mortals gonna live. Maybe the best case scenario one hundred years any now but it's it's again it's part of the saggy it's all saggy and it's hard because you can't really or i can't really connect to his emotions and his desire to be back with jane if that wasn't set up initially and if you're new to this you're going jane. What are you quickly at about. Who's this jane character. you haven't seen her yet. We have gone to london when she's on the bad date with the guy from forever. This show is all he. He was somebody famous center or something. Yeah he's he's a relatively. He'll look kinda familiar with tied he didn't recognize them at all. But that part was kinda funny like just where she's sitting there reading the menu. And he's like you've been the menu for seven minutes only three items. That was kinda funny. And i and i do love darcy shows. Can you get like. I would love that. She said staff on and he's like i put her her outfit made him think that she was dress with her heavy overcoat on the clearly. This woman is here to take our order. Yeah that that did not. I'm a big fan of darcy in this movie. I'm a big fan of darcy and general for what fill those the big dejected on darcy. The last Feelings this time around. Yeah she hasn't improved. She showed less lines on this one than she did. The first day she was she was ever present. I i don't like saying this kind of stuff. But it's i'm just not a fan of the character. I understand why she's there. She's kind of like the not even quirky like what's her character. She's annoying like she's just bear to annoy everybody and get in the way and not do anything useful like she doesn't do anything useful. She has no utility. She is like i don't know she. She's like an allen wrench that you don't need in your toolbox and you've got if my key and you're like i'll never need this thing again but here it is. I can't get allen wrenches. Fifty of them. She is the fifth down wrench. She just there for comic relief kinda thing. She's lament the audience syria because jane explained stuff to are alive. Like hey these things do this. Science crab like okay now. The audience knows the replacement that makes sense. That's fair that's a good way to put it. That's probably why she's there because that's all she really does and she. She made me laugh though. So i mean that that's something. Yeah she has a couple of good. I'm not gonna not gonna completely say she was pointless. I just i just found it very annoying and i. I wasn't just wasn't feeling the way that character was portrayed or how it was directed again as she barges in on this date and She's on a date with chris. O'dowd and you know there's very awkward and she can't help. She obviously very distracted. It's you can assume it's natalie portman first day off say jane. It's jan's first date since you know thawra went to aldo. It's been two years. I think at this point after two years you would have. I mean i know some people don't but of like the guy you had. You didn't even know him for years. He came down in new him. For what a week. That first movie happened. If even that got you think you would be able to like it was a it was a hot fleeing. We had okay. Not all of my life left me after a week. Not mean not many. Not many people are painting for person. Day met for literally. What two days unless you're days wasn't it yet interesting. That whole that whole thor section was like within a week combined with other movies. And i was a long time ago but yes i write up. I just remember polly to an thor. And the opening of captain america or when they find merica. That's all net one week so it's it's not like she's known him since high school. It's she's the nordic man who you know that she was really into how you could fall in love easily like that but two years earned. It's there has not earned. Calendars sure it's not smart at fishes. She's not she's not going to be somebody she's not a young teenager. Who's who's gonna think. Oh at the end of the world like no. You're just gonna you know what happened in moved on. I kind of didn't think about much analyzing. I'm like okay. That's a little stupid. I that's that's fair to you. Know she's she's yeah she's on high school. That's fair mike wooden darcy. She's alive on this on this Jane subjects. Like i kinda see. We're coming from like every guy that she does date. She's gonna compare to thor because he's like a liberal. God that i mean even if they just hooked up the one time or whatever she's still gonna compare ever relationship to this to this guy that no one else could possibly live up to so like give her past. Two years is a long time. But i don't know he must have left some godmen present. Honor i'm sure if you have a little hanky panky with the god of thunder is suspect. That would leave a scar to i. Don't know yeah. I that's fine again. It's just emotionally from a filmmaking standpoint. it's non earned relationship. So i can't be with thouron this like dude dude. He had a lot of other things going on here. Man it's a little weird and everything like you know you have them driving in a car and you have all my enter. My interns intern like okay. It was kinda like he plays apartment. We don't remember his name. The intern guy ian socio much of an impact. He he played on me. I don't even remember. His name was on like oh he does literally nothing except for save the life of the most annoying person in the movie so the plot is what he does even know he's really. He's the comedy relief for darcy to yell at because because when you had his hair so she so he's their key really stuck on this but that's fine. Okay we she is that he is there and we haven't been introduced yet but we'll get there. He is there for darcy to annoy and subjugate when jane isn't there. Were jane off doing whatever else or your for well. 'cause she's not physically there. No this is my intern. He's just comic relief and it's he's like the straight man who to darcy's you know jibes and jabs adam is not good movie but it doesn't remove bruna movie but it doesn't add anything either. This is not added of material. And like even like tamil even when darcy comes in. She shows the coming into showing jane that they found these reading. They haven't seen since the first star movie which was two years ago. I think at this point they say it two years we already. What am i and but that was that was you know. He gave a point but like the whole. Get to get where. I'm going with like when they go to the warehouse that whole scene like i enjoy the scene where they ripped off portal out about it but i enjoyed it i i will earn the playing now to chicago. Seventy-three if you haven't listened to you so but that whole everything with that was just fun like where you find. The warehouse were physics. Aren't right and there's you know containers like train Painters from a from a cargo ship that are upright and a truck upturn and he finds kids that have found the found this and are playing with gravity. Like that all makes sense that there'd be much kids running around who found his using it to just do whatever like driving a can into a hole into a into a into a hole minute appear and it goes into a portal. Pops out somewhere else. All that i was on board with it. I didn't question i'm like okay. I get it for some reason. This was on board yet. This is the first time the movie gets actually interesting. As opposed to view there just a fight which is fun on a visceral level but this is interesting. it's very good By the way they lead into the gravity thing is very smart like you said with containers upright you. Get you wondering so you told me you weren't interested when you've got to see naked. Eric selvik running around stonehenge. That didn't grab your attention on we. We we'll get. I think i have one of these one of these an episode. We'll get to eric and The shameful away this will be treats him. I and treats mental illness in general so i so yeah no i. I really think this is very effective. This is you know they the containers. What's really great about the containers being upright an object that you recognize so for me. I didn't even notice until the shot was almost over. I'm like oh they're upright. Oh wow that. I noticed i see containers but my brain assumed containers should be vertical or horizontal. Rather also. they're so heavy. There's not a lot of things that could move them. Like that majorca but not a lot of things. That could do that in the normal everyday right. It's a normal everyday thing that has been a skew that shouldn't it's a normal everyday at normal everyday thing. that is not as it should be. That's interesting like ou go in the floating car. He turns the car. Okay now and in my brain. I've seen this twice. I think at this point. Oh that's right it's the gravity thing a near the portal is very fun. I thought i thought it was even a little cute win. The guy throws his keys than anthony. Why i because he's an idiot and useless. I mean it's just like what would in what world you think. I'm gonna put my keys in there like i. I didn't i was just like why would you drop the key. I mean it's only there so she can go. You drop the keys. Why the key. I'm like not you. Won't you wouldn't do that. I don't care who how dumb you are. You're not gonna drop your keys into a portal for the purpose of the movie though does come back around yes off but yeah you're right it. Does i mean he did. Pay off. But still i was. I've been planning to complain right now. And like we're jane ends up getting sucked into a portal. Where the the ether. Because in we forgot to mention with back in the monologue and the begins they mentioned all the ether was destroyed or they thought was destroyed but actually was hidden somewhere and apparently was hidden somehow inside the earth or something honor somewhere i. i didn't get that or maybe. The world's were connecting in this place that it was connected so that it was somewhere else she was able to get to. It makes sense. Yeah the convergence. Maybe kind of lined up enough to the store opened up well. That's what i thought it was it was basically at the convergence was starting was close happenings. Here's this little poorly thing. That does this thing. They don't explain it very much a lot of this. You don't have to you kind of just like kick it up in the air. No all right. Well i just okay with not being fine. It was fine to muddle those pretty funny that when when they mentioned aether in the very very beginning. If you've seen a movie in the last hundred years if something's mentioned at the very beginning it's probably gonna be important later. We got rid of the magic stones. Garrett guess what nak to magic stones right. There are no movies work if i was thinking about. If you wouldn't have infected jane with the with the ether you would not have jane at all. This woman you can skip are completely unnecessary. For only point is a carry the ether around so she can be a part of the movie with door. And look though i'd adore. That's another piece of yeah. There's a lot that fit seamlessly as guardian society without so much of a thought. Like oh i'm glad got to be some custom fitted robes one thing it was kind of rambling when she wakes up to ether for some reason the elves wherever the hell they are another dimension day. Wake up to when she touches either like to me. That was a little. I guess because like every it does feel like everything in their ship is powered by the ethers. I guess maybe that has looked at. It was connected in a way. I guess i didn't really get it at during the movie itself. I kind of wondered like why is this. Why are they waking up the busy connected to the ether anyway. How come he has been looking for this whole time. Did the spaceship just assume it was. it was buried. it was buried in a and it wasn't berry terribly far for terribly hard. You know what. I mean like you could have gotten there because everyone in this will be just gets to the dark world so e adequate at that either would you. Would you think it reminded me of the pirate gold. The first pirates movie like susan touches the ocean. the pirate. Just kinda know where to find it. I i was common thing i just. I just didn't speak gues- eric. that's very kind of like. Yeah a homing beacon. Sunday sort of thing. It was activated. By seeing this host person glomma this host person like of Relegated carnage sabino vibes when illegal latches on tour which is the effects are cooled. The little rock thing. It's limited is pretty neat. Yeah this is pretty a pretty nifty. And i do like wait like they give a reason. Why four does come down to earth. Find the only thing that was weird to me. Like he coulda came down all this time i know explains it. But he didn't visit her once yet. She's crazy in love with this guy who just been the whole talking to heimdal and dolls. Like i can't see and then all of a sudden boom. He's there all this time and he just like a little creepy the here. He's been watching her making sure. She saved the moment. she's gone. Oh i better go check on her. Like i did like it when she first sees him and she runs over to him and she slacks. I didn't know if you're a real when she slapped him again. Just go after me. I'm like okay. Don't like i think they kiss like initially like as soon as they see the kiss and then she slaps some like really okay. It's very out of character. it does it. It's extremely out of character for her. Like you've never seen her. I lash out in any sort of like anger or anything. Not saying she doesn't have the capacity to but these are seems very movie. A movie thing to do. That's a scripted thing. You bracing the kiss and then you slap him once. Slap him again. I'll kevin barry written. You made that scene a lot. Dumber than i originally. I'm not if you you're not wrong. Like i mean like we said before. He falsely to such intelligent character. They don't they make your kindness stupid in a way. One things absol- in this movie. Let's heroin girl like that with with with natalie portman general. Because she's not she doesn't come off to me like a damsel type character. Very good point mike. It's he's definitely like the the damsel in this That everyone needs to rescue. Which i know. We're at this point. The marvel movie universe general where that doesn't happen to be the trope so such a powerful acura. I mean she somebody you can do so much more with than just making the damsel in distress relic. Try to subverted by making her. This hyper intelligent character. That is throwing that role anyway. Feels a little unnecessary for her. But i understand it. It's still early when they're still trying to figure out what they're doing with the mc they've done like you know what they're still figuring out what they're doing they haven't really gotten the the formula completely down pat yet that's coming out take it. It's just and then they go to ask like i'm okay. They just teleport to ask are like you know what i had no question no problem. It made sense. They just the road came and they went. Like i was okay with it. I wonder why he would. She would just you know putting their hand off her quarters and disappeared there. Like i was okay so he just kind of backup to earth a little bit because what happens is you. We see thor go to earth. Obviously and darcy calls the cops which i guess would make sense because you know your friends been gone for five hours. Probably call the cops cops help again darcy. Just being annoying and then they have seen. I think this is the same where it's raining but only raining around them. Yeah because the treasury forgot about that. Yeah try sir arrest or in the with this red blast knocks small all back then. It starts raining down words. But no you're you're it backwards. Because they were there standing there and they realize with the rain is raining. all around. the rain is falling all around them. Very cool very cool notion of what is now inside of her is visual representation. Something's up with her. Some of the insider it's now gravitationally activated whatever A couple of good examples of that. And of course when the when the cop touches arms who arrested her she slowed them all and the way they go play such a big part throughout the store throughout nine two. Yeah it doesn't do it when four touches exactly like maybe once like ashville hostile fergus. Something he only has lovling right doesn't did with four so the power of love that song better not be in my head of the night. Just you know that that or not. I don't wanna. I don't wanna know that is just go back to the future will be good for. You will be good for me. But what is so the whole reason after that. That's when thor realize she has something in her. I don't think he realizes what it is yet. Because they d wasn't aware of the ether. I want if i remembering correctly. And then they bring then they finally go to asgard and this is where you have like the whole. This is kind of really really kind of focused on the idea. That asgard isn't magic. It's just a scientific that we don't understand you have like the doctor is looking at her and she makes compensate. Is that a quantum something. She's like no. It's a sold some full ford. She's like does it. Do this for yeah. It's a quantum. I liked that i liked her being. You know kinda cool like that. It's like line of the first movie where says we have magic. You call it science and from from somewhere that's like it's the same thing more or less but it's good. It's it's good to see. Jane foster not being a mopey character and actually intake showing intelligence and nachos all got door left me but i guess now thors back. She can be intelligent again. Her her proposed back. So you know there it is. I mean yeah no. It's fine and the other doing the they're going through it there explaining on our explaining to everyone including the audience about how this kind of works on my thing they go zip where they go to the bookshelf. And it wasn't explained story. The which i really liked every got every time i see those elves math. They just something about a pure white mass with black. I just creepy the fuck out freaked me out. You can't even nobody know what you're talking about. That guy costumier on. What movie is that. They won't know creepy knowledge dump. Okay now we know the aether is and what the what is supposed to do. Changes matter and milquet with the way they do it. It was really cool that the way they expose it and tell you tell the audience but also tell the characters. I get completely bored with it. It makes them indeed the other neat little thing on this. Is they think the dark elves are gone yet. Anything all dead all gone. You can of dark elves in one ship. I found out throughout the movie. There's only one ship survived the annihilation. But there's a lot of focus on that one ship ship with a lot of people a lotta dark elves in this movie and there's a lot more coming but i guess maybe a colony ship like the idea that in time fiction you have giant ships that would have like hundreds of thousands of people living on this ship. It's like a city. My my wife commented she said it looked like the mass effect ships. See that. I'll i think that's a good way to put it. I kept calling it the store ship because it looks like a giant sword. Kinda does listen. That's better than what. I call thinking of the space lawn so heinous better than space slug. Get that out there. I'm okay with that. But i liked it when you see that all the earlier when you had the battle scene in there and they're arresting all these goud limbs and you have them all warriors being breath into in the into the prison inside. They're locking everybody up like i. I like that. 'cause you know things are coming low key in a jail cell. You know where we're going because really you'd already have seen or the guy had shoved a little ether stone into the other guys and put a helmet on him and disguised with the other. The other barbarian type people. So i was really cool. I thought and i. I love everything with low in this time. That's a great actor like in the part where you have him in a cell. He's talking to his mother and on luge in like all that was really cool to see. Well well the first thing though is how did that guy get on the ship. Like how and i saw all the way the way it kind of seems in the way i way at least the way maybe my brain just be created. This was that they dropped him off somewhere where the battle he just got arrested with the rest of them. Yeah that would have been good to see because when he saunters onto the ship into the prison like my thought was a you. don't see him in chains. I don't remember you do at least initially. He's just walking down the aisle with team. Thor like they never show you or show. Yeah they never show how he actually gets into the custody of the of team. Thor so i watch. I like housi- there like what how why it was baffling to me and very annoying. This movie less. And less than i don't mean to ruin your joy. I trying to rene thing i'd acted it makes sense. I was trying to connect dots. I hope maybe there are dots. I missed. I don't know he just shows up on the ship. And then then they put him in jail sally. Oh he's not gonna prisoner but how did he get there and this is actually probably one of the big problem with this movie as well. And when we get to the end that whole cluster. It's so rushed like there are giant chunks of the things just cut out of this movie. There had been a scene where he actually got captured. The drop into a battle like you said with the nine realms or polishing all that up and he gets taken somehow on purpose. yeah. I see that though. That's bad it was written somewhere near like. We don't got time for that. Xabi on mike that i miss naronha what you think. Speaking of a missing dodds fairly checked out of the sink. I don't remember most of the same. Like as you guys describe it like. Yeah i remember that. I remember the guy. Activating the the curse stone. And then loki tells them take the stairs on the left and that's pretty much it for this thing so i have nothing to add super professional operation running here. That's fine. thank you for your commitment to the craft. They appreciate it no of this movie. It's one of violent and taking notes like i. You know like we did for the iron man or hall. I'd have been my tie would obliged over a lot. Yes you're right. This is not really memorable. It's ultimately forgettable. Yes it night. Forgivable it's yep. You're exactly right. If i wasn't intentionally watching this looking for things stared at its john and chomp chomp popcorn or something on your driving you kind of space out mill. I go kay. How did i get here like yours going through the motions like i mean it. I do really love like the l. When you have the guy in the prison and he grabs he grabs into his wound. Pulled off the stone crushes the stone. I enjoy all the prison break. And you have the guards rushing in. You have lucky watching and at one point. The l f. He breaks all their prisoners. He walks over to where loki looked at him. It just keeps going. it's very. He does get let him out. I like that a lot too. I liked that i liked. The movie. didn't take the obvious turn because that would have been the obvious. Oh here is to break out. Loki looks at him and just turns and probably says himself. You're not going to help me much then. Look of course being logie goes take to the left which is which is very good. He looks back then. Turns back That whole seems great. I really do like it. I think it shows that the as guardian army is it shows vulnerability because that's at this point. We've seen nothing. But victories successes in champions and warriors and odin we'll fight last as guardian blood drop and he gets. He's kind of psycho in this movie. A little bit just fool because this one ship is really fucking up. An entire was should be entire planet. But it's really fucking them up. Yeah and he's and it's thor is now trying to be reasonable and actually authorities saying take the fight to them. Let's let's protect our elman and otas almost stuck into this. Probably antiquated notion that his is visible when clearly. They're not like a bunch of rabble they scrounged up from the depths of the nine realms. Just soundly trounced them. And got out of the jail again there was like three guards and fifteen dudes. But still you had everybody rushing you get to see like i do like the part with a cell ship shows up in heimdal like wait a second. And the whole. He's where he's shocked that he didn't see it coming like he couldn't see this and he jumps on the ship like that was cool where he stabs maple yes. I just great fan. And i enjoy the ship battles. I enjoy when you see what little fighters come out. And they're shooting added with other like with their other flying. all that to me was just. It would probably look a lot better on the big screen but it was just cool to see. I had my attention. It's just action. Need to be actioning out but it was fun. It was the dock fighting. You're talking about the dogfight the ships. Yeah that's cool a million to that dogfighting. So it's it's it was fun and it's exciting again. you're showing. That asgard is not invincible. Although i will say when when the scillies bits of this that was not intended to be silly but was extremely funny to me was curtis. Elba puts the sword in activates. The giant shield. The she'll the garden he goes even see a couple of planes bouncing off the exploding. And you're like oh sweet shield then. All of a sudden the cursed walks up to the giant spinney glowing thing and just smashes it. Yea then was funny. It was kind of like why he was like. Why the hell did you put this guy. What was your plan. And then it cash shows you. That was the plan was to bring him into. You can take on the shield. I just i don't know got it as movie movie doing things. Okay because i'm saying and i'm thinking to myself. They wouldn't have known about the shield because they're out in the years ago exactly right. They know about the shield. I'm how how would how this fairly you in monster no word as i'm sure keys common to stay on the left didn't help sure there's thousands of stairways in that palace leg. How did he get there. How do you know to smash it. I mean i guess see big lowey thing you smash game of course see bigly thing grab it or you break it. That's that's how games work. And i guess that's how movies work because that's what happens. That was pretty stupid. I was as a bummer opened. Like more with that more with that. Like the shield okay. That's how does this play into the battle at hand. No bring it down to seconds after you brought it up. I think it's just mental agree enforced. Mike's point of showing that asgard isn't quite as invincible. Liz they thought they put up a huge shield and they'd just knock it down so effortlessly like maybe. Maybe they're in trouble here. Yeah no it's definitely showing that That the elves are forced to be reckoned with that. They're they're not be pushed around. Is this now meets him. This catch him us up my notes here. So what else do we get so we could get. We had the we have the the the dogfight. I'm trying to get back to where we work. I think he skipped around a bit. We're we kinda. Give steer the ship where i was reading on. Were you have like 'cause during this whole time like the prison break. The shield gets broken. It's all kind of the same thing with the dog fights and you also have like a one ship that crashes into the main room and think was trojan horse. It's all kings are my mind. The ship crashes everybody's just waiting. The soldiers are waiting to have their sword thing. I thought about the ass guardian. You sword shield and spears where the dark elves just have guns and he just shoot the fuckers and one shot kills. You and i'm thinking to myself. Guardians has some kind of like they have turrets and we see we see turret but they don't use guns when they're fighting otherwise either guns felt really sifi for some reason because they're small lasers and the grenades the fucking grenade later black hogan agencies throw it and they just suck up and turned the bones. I'm like and i'm sure bills like this is getting screaming. You kidding me. I just i tackled it was. I know you did it soon. As i saw like this they agree. I love that creeping. Good terrible oh well. They're not really down creepiest faulk to us. It's very good and it was cool. It again the me out. But i i did like that where they all come in and this when you have. I mean the whole reason. They're there to is to get the ether autumn. Jane foster and jane foster is in asker. They went to ask our could. They can apparently locate where she's at and all that. But we're frigate takes her modernisation different room and tries to like fight off. Malik with a blade like that was fun. I enjoy that scene a lot. Young marines with doesn't go so well for her but it's cool. It's really cool. Like she holds her own. Yeah i. It's a really good seen actually very lots of defiance and subversive expectations it. It's it's reference later onto to that seeing with her in in the later movies or get the best. Yeah an endgame. I let her. We'll talk about that in a few months. But and like like i did like in mala kit or i can't marry malkovich or the big elk guy. One of them kills forgot. Don't write it down. But that whole thing like receipt or rush into the room and then he burns mucus face. The point of that is in the comics and every other thing tiff heat. That character always have one face white or one five faces. White one side is black. A light the in the original star trek here. You have the those episode kind of like that that that's why they didn't. They burned his face. And you get the particularly correct way. How he's supposed to look in the data. Okay did not know that yeah. It wasn't just stupidity. You're like it. Felt unnecessary to me. Until i realized oh yeah to get it. Because he's supposed to look that way and they wanted to give him his real look so they're like well how can we do. That will burn a face if they couldn't give hawkeye's his helmet. Never helmet see. I don't even know that z. We're gonna have never gonna get anything. Never give my fucking funchal pot with hawkeye classic costume. All right nothing. But i did like he comes. He's all pissed off burns them. Throw them out the window may then they ended up escaping. Like i liked all that. I like it that because you know he failed but he's gonna come back like we were talking earlier. Were you mention. How when odin has that whole speech while ask guards when thors trying to convince them like. Hey they're going to come back into attack us. We need to do something. Throw an just wants to wait and fight not really think about. Does this happen now because this is oh that was a later. That's after the funeral. So enroll mentioned that. Yeah i mean Offers limits mentioned the mom. The death scene. Where i think there's a couple of touching shots in there. When owns holding her. This is a big problem with this movie and the problem with this is a big problem here is that the emotional temperature is very flat and even though it tries to go up and down. It's still maintains a very same frequency. Because thor gives you nothing here like there is no emotion. There is a pain look. If i remember correctly. I remember if he likes yells or things on. These stupid is just a very flat. Events is mom passed expecting this big explosion and he seems like he's trying to hold it in. But why why would you want to. And then of course odin comes in yet that shot of him holding his wife again. That was pretty touching to the framing of the shot was really nice but This is a problem is just very flat. And that's why i think for all of us is like a pretty just movie ass movie where it just kinda games long savage and doesn't really excel or do anything horrifically bad. There are some great moments but this is definitely. This is definitely a reason for this This is kind of an example of a scenic needed some some some temperature to its gravitas little sadder. When she got rolling they should. It is your yeah and the funeral was like cool because it reminds you like the idea of what the viking funeral were like. Do like that part but again even throughout all that you never really see him really sad like you should. He just wants to attack you. Don't see him. I mean. I don't even think you see them. Maybe more than a couple of times you know you have that entire very pretty goes forever. Like how many funeral cliches gonna do chinese lanterns. Valuables vote on fire over the waterfall to waterfall. But not really because it floats. Okay we we get it. We haven't seen much of berkeley honest with you in these two movies but up to that point it just feels like more that four. This isn't earned like this emotion isn't earned. Didn't do enough to set it up to make us care about these characters. It almost feels like there's too many characters and not everyone gets enough time on screen so feels like it hurts. I agree with that. Yeah and the the two characters who should get the most time. Don't get nearly enough and we'll get to that momentarily. He yeah i mean it's fine. I just didn't feel any like heart string polls near there is a lot of that it is it again just emotionally flat. And that's why a lot of this really just comes off as is very forgettable. Kanye like c average. As i put before we gotta talk about when you first see eric salve again you want. He's given the speech like i earn. I i saw that. I was like okay. You see seattle blackboard. He's writing on a blackboard. Talking about what's happening in the world is giving the audience. Then all of a sudden he picks up a shoe. And i'm like and then he picks their shoe and then you realize again. Why did he have pencils. I feel if you're gonna sane asylum. He's at you would not have pencils pencils in here. Well i actually before we can go into that piece i put a little recap because at this point we are exactly halfway through the movie like i actually paused it in checked and and so the status or in now is thors screw up because he led ask our destruction because he brought jane there if he's just listened to his dad that saying put it back on earth. None of this would've happened right. Because they were led there by the aether and all that stuff in the world would have been destroyed so ask our strike in theory there but at least at least they would have had a fighting chance but he's he feels like he's his home. World has now been destroyed because he brought chain their disobeying daddy and and trying to be a good a good boyfriend. Mom's dead at that point. The army's thoroughly trounced there are no good at anything. The jane is dying from aether poisoning. And look you still in prison and no one cares so he. That's this is where we're at. At the halfway point of our funding fun action movie is all of these disasters dramas and and again. Nearly all of them are not earned. Like mike said so. Here we are and then we get this fun little scene featuring a crazy man. A man who is suffering from god knows what again. I can't assume what you again like. He says later on you. Try having got stuck in your head for for a couple of months or whatever which is very funny. I don't like this at all. It actually made me very honestly upset but it gave me a weird feeling. I don't like the portrayal of people who are mentally hindered or have mental issues as comic relief. J it's a little something from that china groups. They weren't fly these days. I don't think it would. Yeah necessary like you don't it. Doesn't you know just having being a fool especially when it's a case where the guy was is kind of suffering. Ptsd in a sense because of what happened to him. And we're supposed to laugh. Like you have the stanley cameo shoe back which is completely unnecessary. So if that whole part you could cut that out. You don't need. I mean the only reason this even there because again in this movie they really don't think you're paying attention. They are assuming audience. I know you guys came on be honest. You're texting uranium. Popcorn knows paying attention. We're gonna explain the convergence to you six times when a keep explaining what it is. We're key explaining. Guys guys you know is nine realms right and every once in a while they go on top of each other cool. Everyone's good are great. Let's have him explain it and have this person explain it. I six times. Explain the convergence and all he's there to do is briefly for a split second in the midst of all your chuckles about humorous. This man is tell you about his electromagnetic steaks. That's it and you hear for two seconds and then in the half an hour when you actually see them you still go. What is that. I don't know what those things are. What those devices and a movie thinks you've paid attention. You haven't paid enough attention to the movie. Where you you understand the convergence after two times little on six. But you're supposed to pick up on those steaks like right there. He's all chuckle. Bones are the old chuckle face is just making everyone a gas. I really annoy me. And it really i get. I get upset when it upset me. I was like i. Don't i don't like treat this with a little more sensitivity or just. Don't do it there. Sitting in this one flew over the cuckoo's nest insane asylum there in everyone's kind of like the long beard so stereotypical it's just ham handed. It is really horrendous and it was honestly just a little upsetting. I really uncomfortable. Yeah you could have just had salvage in a place talking to nobody or something in you know like 'cause they just play like you said he played for comedic effect. Which is the problem. I use money. i was thinking about it. I was watching it. It was kind of going through the going through the motions and saying you know doing his thing and he's talking about his shirts or ragged explaining it. Him turnaround as opposed to stuffed animals like out and shares. Like i would been like that. Because that was something i would do if i was a crazy person but just have minutes insane asylum. It just again. The temperature of the joke was just not a year. I would say. W i think it was only tweet thirteen. We we've changed a lot. I mean look at right now. We more woke now. I don't know anymore hidden in her houses. At least we were at the time of this recording. So we're start not really attendance for but like i would. I would say in the last seven years since since twenty thirteen. That jokes about mental health. Mental health is a lot more being recognized and a lot more. They're trying to understand it and not. Just play it off you know people are starting to recognize. Ptsd more steps in general is becoming more of a thing and like the last movie we talked about your monthly was all about. Ptsd again. They about who just you just biltong okay. Now you know. It's just that era i would. This movie has another very similar scene. Here coming up or eric's just like okay. I'm not crazy anymore. Yes yeah. I got a little help from our friend. I mean they. They looked i beatles song up. That's what we'll do five now. It's good but i did really liked the next part where you have where you have a kind of jumping back and forth you have. Thorn is for good bros. Talking about like what they're gonna do and how it's crazy and at the same time you have it happening and and jumping back and forth each time. They talk what they're gonna do then. He shows us happening back. Talk what they're gonna do next in. The show's happening. I really liked this part as far as raid like you have. I mean you have just you know they. We gotta rescue loki. You know and then you see loki all in his cell and he looks normal with dan. cut the illusion. You find everything's broken. He's in the corner crying because he's not okay. What happened to his mother like. I thought that was really cool to see that. Say let's let's earned emotion. There you feel for lois. This whole part with the breakout. Everything is great like i. I remember when i first saw in theaters. You have the captain. America cameo when borne local. You're walking down the hallway funny like this is jennifer on the cap marriage but titan patriotism and all but it's i like that's funny and i'm okay with that being funny and i and i was so happy she cap america again at that. Time didn't really get it for me this time but it like it fits look his character. He's being an asshole Yeah i was always treat. You'll he has just petulant and like a like a child. Butch how incredible intelligence. I really i think this whole excuse me like i agree with you. Michael this is a great sequence on my love win. People are planning out the caper and the capers happening. So you're not like you don't have to. You're playing along with the caper right. And it's really great as the scene where we're lucky reveals. His true emotional state is might be my favorite shot movie. I think it's shop beautifully. I think that stark white background with the destruction in his foot is bloody. There's flowers on the floor. There's scratches in the wall like it's so good and it's it doesn't feel like he's trying to trick anybody. If feels honest like he looks over at thor and quarter you here to do. Mock me like what are you. What are you here for. What more can you take for me. And i never get the sense. 'cause local you always wonder. Is he trying to tricks or not. Not in this case. I totally didn't get that from this scenario. It's beautiful and like like. Mike said it's earned. It is you. There's actually that one scene. Where i think it's a guard tells. Low keys before before the Eric situation and eric seen or a guard comes up and explains that his mom passed and and as the guard lisi turns. And you just get this little force like they knock some stuff over with like an anger forcing so good and so this is a beautiful shot and this is probably my one of my favorite scenes. The moving definitely visually favor. Yeah this this is. This is one of the best parts of the entire movies as whole like they're breaking out jane they're escaping on the ship like going on right around here where you have like the good boroughs helping them out. And they're each trying to fight the as guardian the plane part of his big master plan to get out of asgard and the whole reason. They even need loki. Make sense because they need loki because he knows an exit out of asgard because everything else is sealed. I it's really cool. It's a really well. It's when the best parts of movies you have dogfights again. You have them trying to drive One of the dark too dark elf ship. That's been crashed crashed the catholic for some reason nobody decided to move mean all after like what you have them bickering because he doesn't know how to operate the machine like it's it's it's a gift really apart i was. I really liked the part of the movie. What did you think on a mike. Yeah he goes kinda Kinda nailed it. They're like lost my trying to like well. Yeah one time. In one batch. And one more thing i i do agree with. I think it's all good i get. I love the fact that his team thor. They all get a role. They'll get a part to play. Seth seth right. Yes seth breaks out jane and and you know the big dude big haggard looking dude sieff who sit citizens lady yeah not civic. Sorry sift breaks jane haggard dude. Who's fighting off all the all the office and they're also very careful not to kill anybody just incapacitating because they are on the same team in army. You get rapier guy. You know d'artagnan. Doing his thing on this. The the the flying is right. It's a it's a really fun. Seen stakes there is stakes areas escalating tension. There is you know risk involved to everybody because again you have people that you know tangentially like you kind of know them kinda sorta his team so since you know. They're not vital to the marvel universe any one of them could bite it and not have any effects that actually helps with attention to. It's actually good. You don't know these guys very very well and of course you get to the best part of the movie will my fair parts movie as far as just you know thing that develops. Is you get to see the relationship between store and loki. It is so good. I story and together. They feel rate. They feel like real brothers. They feel like they are. They're backbiting and they're they're they're needling. They're always needling each other. I needed way more of that in this movie than we got honestly but for this little blanket a time when they go through the portal and up in the dark world You get to see them kind of be a a a reluctant team that that either does that. The others in a backstab were thorn eight. Fave make that joke three time. We're like if you would trade him. I'll kill you if you like. They'll be allied scraps. Yeah so the whole sequence is pretty fantastic. Yeah and it's funny. They're on the ship and they're they're being chased. He's like we gotta do something like okay. And he throws loki out of the ship. And i liked that means all plan because they have a ship down below. They're going to get into to to make them destroy the ship. It was it was funny though at the whole time during this also handcuffed because he doesn't trust him actually so yes. I was surprised when they when they take the portal out of asgard. it leads directly to the dark elf. Route that to me a little odd. Flu should've went somewhere else. Or maybe they were heading there. And that's why i took them there. I didn't get that part and you know like it kind of gives off the rainbow road vibe of like when they go through the portal. It kind of looks rainbow elec- whenever dove until the portal. So i wonder if he can control where it goes. Yeah i agree yeah. It's funny when i was watching it. I had the energy of. I wonder if this is the portal. He used to kind of escape after the end of one when everyone thought he died or you know has some way of getting. Obviously he was able to get other places. I know i just kind of handled it like. Oh i know this. This highway goes to dark world. I happen to know that. Why would i be in the dark world. Who knows it. It was just one of those things that made me like. Why just goes why he just goes there. He a question. That's bow question because if you feel like they had an opening just like that in this tunnel they would just use that instead of frigging giant ship. One of the things that i was i was questioning during this movie but it is not important and i i do like it when you do have them get to the dark world. You have thorn loki arguing because you know historian loki and like this. This is another one the harsher. I the second half this movie. I really liked this everything from now now on. I'm pretty. I was on board more entertainment. I was originally where move just felt like it was kind of plodding along to get you here and then it started really amping up the movie. All our i started paying attention. You have a really quick thing where selvik gets released from from the asylum and then the guy like all he's my son and he just takes them away just because they need they need salvage for the final part of the movie to gotta find some way to make you ian in. That had no purpose in this movie at all to move the plot forward. Yeah so this is. This is the part. I mentioned earlier where they give him. Eric's giant bag of pills and honestly relieving the asylum. Ian goes the handed to him and he looks at him and he's like it's nice knowing that the world's crazier than you are and then just all of a sudden he's not crazy anymore right. Yeah all you need to do all you need to know to break out of your mental problem is to realize that you are validated. That you are okay. Nfl networks okay. Yeah that's yeah. He's built something as an cutting it. Yeah yeah yeah you're gonna build something we are who at least. There's no stupid jokes. i'm gonna leave you like your father did. Just drive off at this over. Yeah at least. I wasn't there and like this whole part. Where like low key betrays thor go. -tations like where i like it. Where he. I forget exactly what he does. So he stabs. Thor throws them out. And he's like. I brought you a gift. Malik and tat whole part is just. I remember seeing like oh my god. 'cause i i i thought i thought for sure. It was actually betrayed him because it would fit the character. Does loki would do an ivy. It's gives credence to the fact that he wanted to come here for that reason. But then you find out if not like what you think and again before his cuts off ski great guys to grab the hammer. He cuts off his hand as another movie. That does another hand cutoffs as two. Yes it happened. That's right more. There's more than just that's one but this is part of the hand cut off. Because as i said before and i'll say again every face to movie some gets a cutoff because of empire strikes back. It's it's kinda stupid but it's really small there. You won't even think about happening every movie. But i read that somewhere. Now i'm like. Oh wow that's a really confirmed thing like yeah it's a real go under the the rest of the phase to listen. I'm like yeah okay. Someone losing their. I can't remember one man though. I can tell well i know where it is then. Yeah i think it's every movie. I could've swore yeah even found the article that says it is a star wars tribute. It's a real thing. It wasn't just an accident. It was something that they purposely did. Pyrex back wild. But yeah this is. This is effective about in watching it again. I kind of realized okay. Obviously there's a trick because you know sorters and walk around the mcu for the rest of his life with no hands. But i was like i waiting for waiting for it. Finally you know when it comes. Very clever was lies about the scene. Twos you you get a chance when they're when when Lucky is squaring off with the foot soldiers and thors swearing off against the cursed in. Malik is just kinda just drained the ether so he's just like fuck it i'm done. I got what i wanted to ship. He's like sacrifice all my before. I'll sacrifice these guys do. Yeah the versus cursed battle. It's fine again. This is big dudes throwing stuff each other not. It's kinda like a heavyweight bout. it's not terribly interesting. The lucky ones fun Him just again. Using his daggers. Some trickery some some athleticism Very fun cool to see him doing things that i haven't really seen them do much of in this series we have like when you're in the frost world. We saw him do so that but it was really really fun to see that in and of course the big trick at the end door attempts to blow up the aether does not that right after. Oh that was during this wasn't it. Yeah yeah 'cause when he's when he takes it out it shows up the whole thing delusion. His hand is really still there and he does dry. Okay digestible either. Well the the the star of all this was When loki fake stabs. Thor and then malik galaxies that and he's like. Oh what is this. Perfect can go there and just gets my prize and That's when the big trick al-qaeda comfortable gaither and then deserter. Fight is right after all this after he takes it we were just then he leaves roy. Okay and that's s. The things named beth. I called him the curves. I call him cursed. I was real. Name is what i call him as okay. That's fine me. yeah okay. it's mallory leaves a. He's he's he's gone he got his aether. He's he's out you care less than anybody else. What did you think of the actor who plays malik. while while he's walking away with philip aether christopher eccleston. That's right for you played by dr. Who for season. Oh did he never watched it. But i've seen one tone i went. Oh yeah and that was about as far as everyone yeah. I'm not. I'm not a doctor. Who fan but Okay you only only ever seen him was he's gone and that is exactly what i guess he is. So i've probably thirty times blocking could movie. It was my first. Dvd i ever owned was gone. Sixty seconds so kind of a movie too good. But i mean he's okay. He's a fine actor. Like i i think he did this part fine. I mean he had the movie. he's not. He's not speaking english at all and movies speaking some other language. So you have subtitled. But he did a fine job playing now. Guests input matt costume and waving his hands around and doing cg stuff like it was. I had no problem with them. Decent amount of seen always good. He's a fine actor to like keys. And what i really like like the fight with low key when you have when you get to see loki just take out all the soldiers. Nothing like that is such a cool scene where you finally get to see. Loki fight in this movie because most movies chained up and stuff and then i want to say he's the one that saves stores life too and then ended up dying in quotation to the to the guy our thirst the grenade her now. That's that was before he started grenade. And that's what kills the curse at nasa one creepiest. One really hear the cracking taken forever. And he's screaming. I was like. I did not like it and i am like i said before bills like high new bill like it. I started tap dancing. That's how much i enjoy it. I was afraid you're part of the movie. I was so therefore it. This has been this is well worn territory at this point how much i like bones around things in movies trying to go on for awhile. What and this is. Also where like loki dives. Like i i i saw this. I thought he died. He stat like i really believe he was dead. He looks at not sure. You sure plays the although it was good but he's hilson such a great actor too he outshines everybody he is he is yeah he every every time he's on screen like i've said this before about other actors in this in this whole series. We've done every time he's on. Screen is the best actor there. I i would say argue. anthony hopkins he. I think he probably ex anthony hopkins as odin. Yeah he's extraordinary actor and this is actually very good again. This is more earned right. This is earned thing. Where thor is he he started to really lament you know and combat hold on hold on the. The usual thing is effective now death. Caesar are affected because there's only so many ways to do them sorry debt scenes sometimes are ineffective. Because there's only so many ways you can do them. I only so only so many ways you can blow up early so only so many ways you can no hold on so really hinges on the connection between the characters and the actors the actors doing the good work because you really can't write much death scene and they both do exceptional jobs. You can really tell you. Henderson really sells this longing to reconnect with thor. And too little too late the authorities him you know i will tell i will tell father what you did here. Today look responds. I didn't do it for him. Really good really good stuff. Yeah all greats gracing and this is like this is a weird part that i completely forgotten about when i when when we went back to watch his movie where they walk into a tunnel and in this tunnel and mike had brought earlier he she finds the keys in our phone starts ringing. And it's the loser guy. She dated at the dinner where she didn't even talk. He's calling her to see how she's doing. That part was funny. She's like don't hang up. Don't hang up. He's like okay. Okay standing at a copier. I dug that. Yeah it's it's it's fine a little little device. I yeah i got the it got what i needed. It was a little bit of levity. That was earned. Those aren't sure why. Not i enjoyed it. I didn't. I didn't bother me too much. But it is one of those things you just have to write in to get us. Moving back to earth backdoor. Sal so i wanna yet and the pay and it pays off the whole scene because you see all the stuff they were throwing the bricks shoes. It's it it shows. It pays off the portal at certain things. Don't just return back. why who knows. Gravity sci fi county book data. Yeah it was like you said. Mike we have to get back to earth somehow and We do and i like it. That's just a portal mean again after displaying. Puerto kind of makes me laugh. But it's like you know when they really get crazy on the portals coming up here in a little bit but okay did you guys laugh at the part when they go and jane's apartment and he just puts the hammer on the rack and just asserted absolutely sure did funny him in it just large nordic in small house is really funny and get him out of water. It's very very good. It's when he's at his best. I think that's what made the first one good is to all the stuff of fish out of water stuff so it's nice to see some of them. This one yeah. They don't do it a lot in this movie but the this is one of the few times they did do it and it worked. You'll yeah oh sorry. Go ahead or doesn't spend a whole lot of time on earth. The to begin with now you have where he picks up jane and then this scene and then like basically the rest of the movie but yeah he doesn't have a whole lot opportunity to the show this kind of stuff. Yeah and he. He exactly what i was gonna say. He This is a very much so a asgard. Movie is not an earth. This is yeah. It's saving as saving the universe through asgard and earth is basically just where jane lives. Yeah it was a little. I'm okay that they stayed away from from Movie it doesn't really bother me. I'm really okay with it because it's fun seeing other you know seeing asgard and seeing the other world kinda done without seeing the fricken blank malik world all the time because they really love that but other than that. Yeah the dark. World's kinda just boring. But i i agree. I think asgard much more interesting than small town. Kansas no offense to anybody who lives in small town kansas button. If i had choice between a magical city for old norse gods and small town kansas. Yeah sorry. I don't like basketball that much so off to asgard i go. I am not kansas. They played football. For the smallville. I see now. It's like pregnant smile again. i finished it. I'm on season eight episode one and we stopped. And i'm okay with. Oh did you give up. Did you get through watching. One trio announced that okay. But time i'll be but i. I enjoyed the apartment. They're all kinds of like figuring out and also what. Mike said earlier where you have an apartment. He's like i better agree some paint. And it's like you know all of sudden everything's not okay and he's not wearing pants because he thinks better the man the line about that in the and then also you have something to do. He puts on pants. It'll be okay. That was a little again. It's kind of like you. Don't just shake off what happens. Yeah the one thing i will just kind of. We'll just jump back real quick to to asgard when We realize that loki is actually alive because their dark brown jr. My wife had to point this out to me because i was writing notes. I missed it. And she's like oh he's back alive so what is a very small seen. There doesn't go to asgard till after all the next scene but there is a small scene where loki ends up. A guard goes there. He he also used a little green light in the guard walks. Away goes to old and tells odin loki died or we found a body. He's a rookie. He said he says he says we found a body Which is the implication. It was low key Then you see the shot of him doing the evil okay. Grin which is not loki as another actor that he's masquerading as So good also wife pointed out this as well the same when. He's walking with thor. Pretend to be captain. America and then changing into this and change into to that it asked the guard. That's his guard costume. Is the same costume he uses. When he's walking along that corridor with thor. needling him on bass. The customer uses to trick odin Into thinking he is a look. He's dead it is awesome. And i didn't even just adding very brief writing a note and james. Oh look he's dead or look he's alive and i'm like what so okay and then this is after all this is when they go to green which which is like the last chapter the movie and get the good way to put it where you have in time for big action scene now because we need to have a big action seen before you be the theaters. We leave all excited and forget of all the nonsense. You've been watching the last hour and a half. So i enjoy malaca shows up the the ship shows up again because maybe like little thing. We're how ingrained which is like this connector where all the realms are being both are being connected for this one point they mentioned like stonehenge and a couple of a couple of other real things that i didn't know what they were but he draws a map earlier i i can't remember what they were but i never heard of them but i'm also not from england. So yeah they were just kinda like points on the convergence points to for the audience to know that the final battles going to be in greenwich somehow. Now i don't really know what they were. I like when four. Now you start fighting though. Like i i enjoy this. This scene is fun. Like you have them trying to fight and malicous kinda holding his own with the ether and fucking store and then you have jayme and the other people would set up those stupid like pipe things. He'd been carrying throughout the that he had earlier in the movie. Set him up. And then because of the little device she hash able to make portal's zap alves ear zapped elves there to kind of help fight or something kinda weird. It's nonsensical that's what it is. It makes sense. Hey you portal. So that way. When when darcy and ian are kissing early after saves her life when he takes the car. They can teleport in front of jane like. what are you doing darcy. Like she cares that she's making out with another guy. This need to give jen something to do as the author anymore so they had to give her this so she can still be in the movie. Yes. she's literally done nothing all movie. Except the a carrier for a universe destroying a creature or thing or elements and yeah now now they give her up a gameboy and get your an uber updated. They gave her an ipad with some touch games. And she just start throwing portal's places. I wrote my notes. I just wrote portals. That's all i wrote. Yeah mike what. I'm gonna you might go first on the scene this climactic scene of jumping and smashing and breaking. It's lots of fun visuals. Cool to see things warping around and like somehow it's still easy to follow. Even though everything's still jumping around and people are going between the realms they bring the giant beasts thing what do you call him he The ice monster from never having a and is it. The i'd call them dog ice dog nice in avengers when he's talking to colson is built snipe. Like you know you don't build snipes here. Big f- roche's beast at us. Yeah i know about it just kind of cool to see even when the portals are open you can like you can see hell and you can see van heim and it's just kind of nice to seal the night around even if for not spending any time in any of them. I don't know it's i personally. I think it is. It is overwhelming. It is done way too much way too fast. I feel like it's almost a movies. Trying to rush towards the end like director was looking at the tyler. Oh twenty minutes. We got forty. We film forty minutes of this fight. How do we get this down the twenty first to the editor. I wasn't a big fan of it. I did think it was. It was fun it made for a lot of fun. Little jokes and fun little moments so for example. The ice monster coming back. That's a phone will be meeting the the one guy. that's that's a cute moment of the chemo. Where lower Thor and malik. Erlich smashed against the side of the window and they're sliding down last. Yeah there's there's lots of fun little things that arise from this. But i think the execution execution is just way too frenetic way to. Hey let's just throw a bunch of stuff in your face so you don't wonder what's happening so here. Here's distraction distraction scene. And i just kept thinking we'll wait. Why is this happening. I'm trying to think it through because right now just like magic and silliness and like you've literally gone off the rails as far as this fight scene goes so i just wasn't as big of a fan of it and i remember thinking the exact same thing when i saw it eight years ago or seven years ago. Whatever it is now just think. Catch me as as exciting as i think the movie wanted me to think. It just wished they'd to slow the pace down. You know just and explain what those dumb steaks do. I don't know the state house comment. That says they're there to detect anomaly. But they don't really go in anything more than that but that's comments and you guys are flying through because oh here's the map. Here's a convergence. Let's go put my pants on the truck in go like crime. Any idea actually did like the little seem where ian saves darcy from the from the from the car because he gives him something to do But then i realized he saved darcy. Look at the bright side. You will never see darcy again. Except apparently she's in wanda vision cheese. So right now why i couldn't i was looking out looking her up and i'm like what the hell is she doing in one division but apparently she's supposed to be in that so well in if you get this chance again to save darcy from falling car don't and if you could push hawkeye under their to the way in one shot that'd be awesome marlboro. What are you saying. I'm getting only one person. Gets that joke right now. But and are there is a mu mu joke in. This movie is one when the hammer goes by. She knew what was that stupidity. What is now. Neil near in the first movie. He's like i need to go again. You'll aaron what's mu mu was asked to call boat. I blank that horrendous reference from my memory things so mike what did you think of the part. Where after he is teleported one point he gets on a fucking train and risa train. Back to greenwich slanted take triumph for three stops. It's stupid i. i'm sorry. I'm mike gaba. Sillier thunder headman. No you're good. I just like a kind of just flying around trying to catch up with wherever authorities as tell apart around or if flies into space and those back on earth too so a u-turn to get back to that moment when that when the hammer flies into space. That's when i think. I think audibly said it but i should have. What is going on here like what is happening. Were in space now and mike. You thought it was easy to follow. I i gave up following stopped trying. And i'm being overly generous in part of the movie that i find entertaining. It's entertaining. i'll see that's at the art soup. It's definitely entertaining from dislike a am. I hope. I don't sound dismissive when i say stuff on the screen just or stuff on the yes up on the screen. Just throw it up there. Lots of stuff distraction. Never mind the fact that we didn't explain what these things are Because sometimes that can be fun. You know. sometimes that's entertaining. And i i get that me. I was just hoping for more context and just didn't have that context and also would that scene in the subway. I really liked that. It is so stupid but is so cute. I you know the the subway bumps and she makes the the lady next to thor and makes the makes it as an excuse to touch his chest. You know like oh. That's cute him on. The train is more More that fish out of water stuff. 'cause like train. Yes exactly. isn't that funny. He doesn't the subway he should fly but he does. He takes three stops. And you know nothing didn't pay the didn't pay the fare. Then pay to get on the trainers showed up and down the drain. Come on man. It's still pass. But i thought it was a lot of good stuff there. I also really enjoyed the Not to go through a shot by shot while stop now but the the final thing i really liked was the library. I think it was or a college library. And all the kids and all of the kids were staying there and gene gene is like get away from their. what's dangerous. Something happen and he does. Like i turned cereals. Have out there doing the hammer thing and then to scenes later all the glass smashes covers them. If you guys all had lacerations that was very funny. Picture for facebook picture for instagram. Well i get that boy s buffets look and then you have the rounds merging during this fight and again malecki gets his arm cut off. I don't remember how but something happened. Was arm yeah. It's one tower like goes into the big either tornado and he throws the spikes into his arm. And jamie forgot about that. I just watched last night. And i completely forgot about that see. This is what i was paying attention. Hey back each other up. Yeah that's basically that's the final thing. They're standard era basely. he's almost completely combined. The aether with the With the with the convergence it's starting to leach into all the different realms we see that and then just standing there though we have the stakes could. They could do something with them. But we can't get close. I mean it. It was like whoa. Yeah throws a madam. He has to do it. I guess she they can't walk into ether cloud he can and Yeah stabbed the state arms arms. And then she like you said mike. Tell them into the dark world and then With the ship a crushing with the the sword ship. It just felt kind of odd but it was. It mean work. They had to get rid of ships. Houses is dropped the ship on him and kill them that way. Yeah i felt felt felt like very anti climatic like it didn't it was just zappa lamented the dark world which you've seen before and then drop ship on them. I guess the dark world so fucking ugly though. I guess it's supposed to because it's you know. Be at the ruins of a battle where you killed millions of people were going to say so it kinda can make sense but it just. It was kind of weird to me. Yeah i just you know falls a smooch ism. then everything's okay and We end up with a basically. That's basically that's the story. And then we have a couple of quick little plot ties a tie up with you. What did you think of the The ending mike. Or that asks the the final dispatching of Climatic like we just need to end the movie so Throw the ship on him and be done with endorse. That's it up. Because he says something to the effect of yes. You're all powerful but you can be killed like he. May i think malamalama god and i was like no because you can be killed and i guess. Killing them is not smashing him with thorpe power hammers with the most powerful weapon on the face of the universe. It's thrown into a dark world and drop a spaceship on them. I guess that doesn't i guess that does it for the the eighth or two does aether even leave him like supposed somehow because of the scene coming up on but yeah yeah well. That's questions about that too. But anyway so he's done it doesn't they don't explain things. R.i.p christopher ellison and then you have as i wrote my notes breakfast and no or you have sad jane foster's sitting there eating her cereal and no or and there's something about a combo he didn't come back and i think this is like right outlet. She's sitting there talking to Bill's favorite character darcy. I wanna see that's when thorens teleporting down. She runs outside the kiss him. That's the end credit scene. Oh you're right breakfast or this breakfast noth. Or you see that in my notes. But apparently i don't know how to read notes. Now this is this is a completely useless seen. I've been funny if if Mopey chain was sitting there with mopey. Eric and darcy not really emoting or having any empathy at all and all of a sudden. Just bruce banner walks in. So we have mopey bruce mopey jane just bruce puts his hand on the last night next to the end of the movie where you have thorpe Telling odin he's leaving because he committed treason and everything else and you have to go and he's gonna go protect earth and indefinite find out that i talking to own owns a you always be my son or even if the king with By couldn't say or something of that and that's when then as he walks away. Then you see that. It's actually not only odin isn't a old folks home you find out later on the next. The next movie years from now is that is. That is that what is we. Dropped them off the old folks home. Okay this is funny. I saw magnet ragnarok a couple of years ago. But i watched it on my phone during lunch breaks for a couple of days i did not see it and it's full intended glory. So there's a lot i don't remember and i'm really looking forward to whenever we get to that again because i remember really strict good movies you by far dagger but it's been interesting episode. You have the credits and then this is when you also get where the you i see collect collector which is a reference to a movie coming out in two movies from this where you have guards the galaxy and they take the ether which some reason in a little canister to the collective whole which is which is the infinity stoned right. That's as the second or first for him but yes the second infantry stone. We've seen your comments but they don't want to infinity. Stones in the same place mentioned it up at this point with the eighth or is actually reality stone so that explains all the weird gravity in the portals and stuff it all stems from one of the stones and in gardens the galaxy. Because i had to look this up. Because i'm like what is that i know. That's infinity stone. Is that the stone. They're chasing around in guardians of the galaxy. No no right. The one in galaxies the power stone the press the power stone. Okay right so he's the collector has the first one he goes five to go. Yeah it's it's it's a little seen. I don't know how they got their hands on it. Yeah that's not explained right. No okay great. Good so yeah just The lady whose name i'll never remember and I think it was again. Exhibited big guy sin haggard as i. Kiss things Emily do. That's a good game was good. Su sure Yeah he they go to the collector and they have this little moments and the collector is extremely creepy. I like his key. I like him a lot. I wish us involved more. Remember how much how much in guardians. He's really involved only a couple right like he. Just the whole infinitives on backstory which. I guess we'll get to number ribbit. Yeah not a whole lot. Because that's a benicio del toro and he is just anyway. Yeah it's a it's in that movie. I'm like lafayette. He also basically the same character fucking. Hey but there's a scene in this in this in this movie. That doesn't make any sense. To most people you see a giant cocoon the background. In one of the cases. That's supposed to be adam. Warlock adam warlock to coon. Who is at a morlock i don't i knew. Yeah he's He is a character. That's involved heavily with the infinity gauntlet. And he's like the one that defeat standards which they never never touch on that arc yet. They completely skipped it for the for the infant. They got series that we two movies that we got but that's who he is in the comics. He's also referenced again in garden galaxy volume to when they say about get him him. Is adam also add a morlock till there's references to him but he's never actually has not been in the movie yet because in the stinger for that when we see the cocoon again i want to say the the goal people earn a room with the beca-. Yeah i think you're right. It's been a long time. I oil and then after the final credits. That's when you get what. I was thinking of earlier. Jane sad and indoor comes back uselessly. Seen you'd have what a weird thing to have a stinger like you. That would be tackled movie. Yeah and then put the collector seen that the ad is the stinger stingers are more of continuing the universe. Not it should. Have you know the yeah. They should have flip these two or just put the in or just put this part in the movie in the in the you know. After he tells opera he tells owners. Have the scene like it didn't need to be after the credit. That kind of a weird editing thing. But i guess a really jumping on the fact that after ventures everyone stays the end of the movies they put a scene in the end the movie that feels like it should have been part of. I suspected probably was. I mean. i can't imagine it not being part of the movie because especially the same shot that leads into and then we're come. They had the kiss. And then you have your silly little goofy ice monster chasing a bunch of birds which is very cute and yet iztok basically what. That is very cute fun fine. I wonder why they did that though. That's a very interesting question. Why did you not just put that in your movie like we weren't. It's not like you were trying to like cut time because it's still a trim fifty nine. It's just hits the two hour mark by a minute. I don't. I don't know like i don't know why just do that. The only thing i can think of is that they didn't want to be cheesy and end with big kiss and they didn't want to have the up and down tonal shifts of big triumphant. Return kiss and then the downplay of odin loki is now on the throne of which of course is like the own no the villainous ending where they were trying to maintain an evenness so you had this downtrodden moment of them missing for and then you have this but again that goes back to the whole thing in this movie where it's so flat and it no jumps. I think you could have just done that. I think i think the way they ended it with. Loki is best. You could have put that dumb seen or or have this. Let's rewrite the movie forum. You do that dumb ending. She's in their breakfast floor. Shows up big smooch but credits then after you're like main credits your mid credit scene. Let that you're looking in odin seeing because you know everyone's sticking around no one's leaving and then you do something stupid with a mice monster chasing birds at the end. It was completely unnecessary. But i'm okay when necessary seems the very end like donald. The dog chasing the birds. But i'm okay with those. Those are throwaway. I do agree with you. Though i think the end credit scenes should be cleaners or teasers towards the next movies i think that's one of their most effective. They're just a silly little thing. They better be really really good. Silly thing i mean. They normally are connection later on a lot of the mark connection Movies and as we mentioned last episode this The short came out on this. Blu ray was the one that talks about the mandarin. But we've said that in the episode of balogun said of this district people also decided not to watch the other ones that we know we know there are more than one is is is a pilot to what becomes a peggy carter show we might just watch carter at some point. I'm just as an episode or we don't need a sweet. Oh and should we any lasting. You wanna say about who for good a shopper box. It's not very good right mike. Why don't you go first. Well that's going on this shelf now. That's going to box like this movie. I've said it multiple times. I'll just ultimately forgettable. It's like they knew they had to make a thor movie in. They knew they had to make a movie to introduce the reality stone. Like how do you do either of those. So that is therm together. We'll do this. We'll put some director that no one knows kaz done. What four movies before this said or three or whatever so it's like it's like they expected people not to care for some reason. They had to introduce this stuff so they did. It may the movie and whatever happened with it at that point. They're raking in money so they didn't there's no stakes in it. If you know. Isn't it to it. I liked it more than ireland. Three barely but it both movies. I like the last seen and that was pretty much okay. I'll i'll go next. Because i i was torn between this movie. Would before we watched this. This was easily a shelf. Then we watched it well as one and then we talked about it for two hours easy. I i enjoyed it. I was a little distracted and kind of pay attention to my phone at different parts to me partly for note taking partly because i kind of wasn't i mean it's a fine movie if you just you know. It's not bad it didn't it. Didn't hurt me or anything like other movies that we watch on the show. It was fine. It's just it's just a movie is not great is not exceptional. It's just a movies going into box. I want you bill. I am actually going to put this on the shelf. And i kind of wavered on this issue last night. If i hadn't been last eight on the shelf the box the box off the real fast there are advocate. I'm sorry i got confused. It's going into box and the main reason for it is if you're gonna make a mistake if you're going to err when it comes to filmmaking i'd rather you err on the side of bad but interesting instead of boring and safe and this movie is very boring and safe it does have its moments. it's got good actors in it. A good actor isn't gonna be good going to do good work. Fine fun action scenes but indian. It's too much emotional flat. Line as i think i said early in the in the show it's about as the see is like a movie and see movies. Don't really need to go on my shelf. Not to be Elitist or anything. I'll put a d. movie on the shelf over. Just a ho hum average shrug shoulders action marvel seemingly so yeah this is going to go in the in the box and so on so long as often see when floor rock-n-roll which is a better way better movie though i s e gimme spicy. This is good. See it on a screen. That's not three inches wide. Maybe maybe my my opinion change. I think it will especially after you've seen all the movies you know coming up to it but we introduce what were we talking about next week or next next next week Next episode is going to be captain america the winter soldier on the frickin fest insulin. Movies in my opinion yep. I'm super excited about that doesn't change. They'll be very very sad. Changes hopefully can be less pessimistic. Because we've had we've had a downtrodden run here lately so i'm looking forward again. The the good good movies competed of injured. We weren't exactly excited about like we were supposed to be. And then we sit. Hasn't been the best for us. yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing this with a sober mind and actually remembering what was what was in it. I swear to you. I barely remember this movie by remember thinking it was good a central reason why it's good but i'll save that until next. We're talking about the recording or is up before the recording. Oh how being brought it up during the episode. Yeah you just remind me to bring up my my story of the first time. I saw a nice tease for the listeners winter soldier that's not the don't tease it too much. It's not that good. But i just. It's the entertaining little little anecdote. It's bettering the dark lord. Stinger was well. Yes right i i wanna think everyone take time off the listen to listen to this episode. 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John Chambers - Pattern Matching, Playbooks, and Winning Product Categories - [Founders Field Guide, EP.6]

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John Chambers - Pattern Matching, Playbooks, and Winning Product Categories - [Founders Field Guide, EP.6]

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O'shaughnessy this founders field gut founders field guide is a series of conversations with founders ceos and operator spilled and great businesses i believe we all builders in our own way in this series is dedicated stories and lessons from builders of all types you can find more episodes at investor field guide dot com Patrick o'shaughnessy is the ceo of shaughnessy asset management all opinions expressed by patrick and podcast. Guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of o'shaughnessy asset management. This podcast is for informational purposes. Only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions clients of a shaughnessy asset management maintain positions in the securities discussed in. This podcast i guess this week is john chambers. John was the ceo of cisco from nine hundred ninety. Five two thousand fifteen for he helped grow cisco from seventy million to forty billion dollars in annual revenues. In this conversation we discussed the best business lessons. He learned from longtime gc. Oh jack welsh his key lessons from acquiring over one hundred and eighty companies for cisco pattern recognition and play books. Capitalizing on market transitions enabled by new technologies. The value of team offsites and a lot lot more. I was immediately drawn into john's magnetic personality. And it's easy to see how he was so adept at running a forty thousand person company for two decades. I hope you enjoy this. Great conversation with john chambers so john i was toying with how to begin this conversation for everyone to hear and i thought a really need entry point would be the observation. You told me about from. Jack welsh that you need a near death experience as a company to become a great company. Can you walk me through that idea. And the episode for you. Jack welsh a ge was one of the greatest business leaders of the generation in front of me. And i'd say many people would say he was the best he did. Many things will but one of the things he did was benchmark companies learn from them and uc when he sent his teams out the benchmark companies. If they got one idea from the company it was great when they benchmark cisco shocked. They came away with twenty two areas. They wanted to emulate and learn from and direction and jack welsh even though he was not a technologist at all understood the market transition going on so we became good friends and developed trusting relationship in the mid nineties and we were on our way to becoming the most valuable company in the world. I was talking to jack and he said john. You've got a good company. And i said i know jack that you're baiting me on this. I think we got a company that is pretty close to becoming a great company. What am i missing. He basically said john near death experience. And as i've gone through some tough times now rattled off the economic recessions etc. And he said no john until you go to a near death recession setback type of approach. You will never be a great leader yourself because you have to question your own ability to lead your friends who sunny turn on you. You've to go through that and your company has to go through it as well. So that's one of those things when you hear pieces of ice ugo. Patrick at was good advice. Bat probably not. I'll put it over to the side. Two thousand one the dot com bust. He was exactly right. It was the hardest year my business career. We had never missed a forecast with created ten thousand millionaires in our company. We were on a roll with run. Every word imaginable as a company and all of a sudden people were questioning. How do we go from the most valuable company in the world to a company. Should i even be leaving the company. It was a tough year for me. We lay off seven thousand five hundred people very painful. These my family. I knew many of them very very well personally and so. It was the year that i felt that. I did not do a good job leadership them he called me up at the end of two thousand one. He said john you now have a great company. Dismay surprise you. You're now a great leader and this is the best. I've ever seen you execute an essay. Jack you're probably the only person that even say that because many people who believed in me before and believe there are leadership or sunday questioning. Can we do the job well or not he said. Now you'll see this play out. You add much stronger company. You'll come back better than any of your peers and canley. You'll be a much better leader. I said you're going to be the only one that ever tells me this year was two thousand one of my best usership year ever the he was the only one that said that actress but his point was a good one and now try to do that with my young leaders. I've tried to remind them that. They would develop more stress than the good times. And i try to give them the comfort level even a little bit more gently jacket with me about as you go through this stuff tom. Here's what the ups and downs will be like that. Hits in your stomach where you worry about. Are you the right person to lead this. Your ability to motivated team when she didn't provisions in place so that is what leadership is about. It was something that probably is one of the best pieces of advice. I ever got as both a leader and i guess just more generally how were you in two thousand two the most different than you were in one thousand nine hundred nine having gone through that near death. Experience will attack and expand the question a little bit. How we handle the challenges. Two thousand eight the great recession. What i learned from my mistakes in two thousand two thousand one and that was keep doing the right thing too long becoming way too dependent upon numbers which never failed me. I mean patrick. I can tell you based on the first week of a month how the quarter is going to go and probably a year ago based upon pattern recognition that went seen around the world number of new orders etc. We knew every order within thirty seconds that occurred. We knew what the forecast where we could compare it to the exact same time. The prior years etc seems foolproof. What we neglected was the psychology side of this that the stock market was dropping in two thousand. That there is an indication. Something wasn't going right. And i should have spent more time with the customers around the world to understand it because once i get my trip in january of two thousand one. I realized that it was going to be the hundred year flood. I made the mistake of using the term with the press which they beat me up on pretty hard slim's just cisco but as we know it was not in terms of direction so two thousand eight we will use them but data but a lot more time with customers asking about trans accenture. We saw that coming one year earlier in our summer afford the economic downturn all of a sudden my pattern on my numbers were really good but one group of key customers aida financial institutions suddenly slowed their ordering down an oa by about twenty percent off the normal order rates. But as all of them at the same time. And i called up the ceos. And because i knew him well said something going on here. I need to be aware of and they said no. We're just a little bit cautious at the present time. We think everything's fine. Eight out of eight is in caution that is then so we prepared ourself for an economic downturn and refroze expenses. We prepared how we would navigate through this. And nine months later everybody was in that downturn and had already -sition ourselves of the future and were already playing offense and we came through with unbelievable strengths including loaning billions of dollars to the automotive companies. That time no one else would give them money to purchase their equipment. We build a relationship and trust because we had the financial strengths to do it and we were positioned expecting problems long. Story short is not only. Did it navigate through that better and once again we broke away from our peers and every downturn week amount of stronger than our peers and mark sharon we gain loyalty of customers entrust on our culture that no one else have and company cisco still has that to this day because of how you interface the customers during the toughest time and their survival dominant way that no one else did all parallel that goes back to buy challenges as a young person almost drowned. When i was six years old and i was a competitive swimmer that age but my dad not fishing rapids west. Virginia he said john. You've got to be careful here. This rapids really bad and span feeder but did not get too close to the edge. He said i'm going to be efficient up here. A little bit of you never told me to be cautious. do want. You'd be very cautious. Six zero do. He started to catch a fish or wanted to see. If i could get the lure out further i got closer and sure enough. Fm the minute i went in i knew i was in trouble. I mean the rapids plummet need knocked me head over heels and as i finally surfaced for the first time in the rapids and i was just getting started in them. My dad is showing me from one hundred yards away. Hold onto the fishing pole and each time. I'd surface adhere seeing running down the side of the bank. Trying to catch up to me and yelling. Hold onto the pole. And i just got knocked up skinned up pretty good through there and finally he got below me and was able to swim out and pull me in. I was a little bit shook and he sat down he said. Do you understand what what just happened. I said the fishing pole. He said no what you did. You didn't panic. I use the folks of fishing pole. Will you to focus on something you could control so that you let the rapids take its course and then i could come out and get you. He said in life as you fall into these challenges you focus on what you can control influence. Do not swim against the tide of the current. Because you drowned. You have to learn how to get out of this yourself. Once you've been through that you know how to teach that she know how to handle the experience Remain focused on. Hymns wants an amazing story. I'm glad that i didn't hear it. The first time we spoke. Because it's so poignant and so interesting after a member get yelled for diving right into the middle of these conversations and not giving some framing those listening and for myself. I'd love you to begin by telling me a bit about what you had done. Up to the point that you joined cisco in your career sort of the formative experience you had and then what that business looked like when you got there. Because i think what's so unique about your experiences cisco is there. It was established but by far the majority of its absolute value market cap happened under your watch and plenty of lessons to. I'm sure gleaned from that experience but we need the setup so going into that experience what were the formative pieces of your life in career to that point and then what did it look like when you got to cisco your second. Part of the question was not just your business career. It was your life on it and your experiences and then the business career that set it up and then what do we find it. Cisco in that sequence. I was a product of two doctors learned from the very beginning the importance of equality in life and and there were all equal in life so no matter what happened. They knew how to fix this in terms of the direction. But i had a problem reading in the first and second third grade and it was severe and my parents would read with me every night but much like somebody who is play sports a golfer or shooting a basketball. If you have something this basically wrong with your swing your shot. It's really bad practicing more with that. Flaw only makes it worse and makes it very difficult to fix later and so my parents once they saw is happening in school kids would laugh at me when i read because i would lose track of where was an turned out i was dyslexic. And that means you often read right to left as opposed to left to right. It's emotional you lose. Confidence would be an understatement. And i heard the teachers talking one time from a distance that i may not not only go to college graduate from high school. My parents did figure this out and they got a teacher. By the name of mrs anderson to really helped me learn how to read effectively and even though the term dyslexia wasn't prevalent. She knew i had a learning disability and she taught me a series of techniques over two days a week after school for three years. How to deal with it once. I learned the work around and then later in life learned that you can take a weakness and make it a strength whether it's public speaking or the fact that i can't do things surely can go. Abc at recognition and outcomes really quickly picture the whole thing make it a strength second thing in formative years. I grew up in west. Virginia where we were the chemical center of the world will carbide. Fmc dupont six thousand engineers from west virginia. Smartest technicians think of that as the silicon valley of the world in chemicals. Were now as growing up in a hundred twenty five thousand coal miners and a very prosperous state more millionaires west virginia then the whole united kingdom did but because we didn't change. We didn't make changes. We fell from grace. Today we're number forty eight forty nine hundred fifty in almost every category then whilst watched the equivalent of silicon valley in boston one. Twenty eight with mit. At the heart of that like stanford is out here. And i'll watch this lead. The minicomputer industry with deck and wang data general and thousands of computer technology companies and feeder system supply chains groups and we went from the powerhouse of the world to almost nonexistent in technology computer industry. Because we didn't change all those jobs were lost and gone forever. So i've seen when things don't change. So i went to. Ibm mainframes big iron proud of it etcetera ibm didn't change displaced by computer players. Wang data. general excetera. They didn't change place by clients servers. They microsoft intel's the world they didn't change replaced by cisco the internet the internet it evolved the cloud etc so i've learned how technology changes ushered business changes in a unique way. And they're doing the right thing to belong to june as much trouble as during the wrong thing does. I was a product of all those so when i came to cisco the first lesson learned is i was never gonna get the interview at cisco when i decided to leave wang. We were going through a series which lasted a year layoffs. Almost every three months and i did not feel. I could look for a job at the time. I was laying off people now organization. That time is running the us organization about ten thousand people. When i told the ceo that. I've lost confidence in the direction. It's time for me to leave. I thought i'd have to do is send out resumes and way offers to come in. It was really humbling experience. No offers came in. And i had a pretty good track record experience on it. That teaches you the importance of relationships fast. For two hundred and twenty days later. I had twenty two offers either in hand or close to being an hand. Twenty one of them came entirely to france. Networking helping i had the search firm who had the search for me that ended up having to search for cisco as well when it turned out one of the cisco employees who had worked with g twelve years before can years before abby am and i work with him at wang and i helped him out of a tough situation. Just because was the right thing to do. I didn't even know years. At cisco he called up my wife and said. I know the john look in here in the valley. He's interviewing at the wrong companies and he needs to be the ceo. Cisco return from grueling trip out here on the west coast elaine. My wife asked me how to go. And i said it was brutal but regaining some offers. She got the job for you. Company called cisco. I didn't even know what they did. But the takeaway there is your product. Your currency is your track record relationships and trust and when you use those three consciously or subconsciously that often determines your future impurity because of how. I tweeted somebody before. I get the job at cisco and purity because of having seen the experiences so much i been through it i was able to share with the decision makers desisto. Why should be there next. Ceo and they were kind enough to give me the opportunity. At that time it was only four hundred people seventy million in sales. The group was very effective very town group but it was a leadership team that did not get along and didn't like each other. The almost had to at times get between them in terms of fistfight. They were very customer oriented. I was fortunate enough to understood. Having seen the movies are transitions bad with need evolve. The leadership team that would need to move rapidly and ninety to focus them on outcomes and made a bold statement that the internet was going to change the way. The world works lives place and cisco's can be the key player there. People said you build routers you do. Techy stopped between researchers on campus. What do you mean is going to change the world. So that's what cisco is like when i got there great product by the way but it was more a technique products. I hope to evolve. Were some really talented people around me how you evolve the corporation. We developed recruited some of the best talent in engineering and sales. And we did one hundred eighty accusations and we took it from four hundred people to seventy five thousand people. Seventy million in sales to forty seven billion number one or two mentality stole deaf. Jack welsh Unless you be the one or two players of cena it. Most companies are only one or two in one product category. We were number one when i left. Twelve product categories so my experience in life and knowing when to focus on market transitions competitors and technology transitions again not competitors. When you get the two combined that's when you can really break away. So that's what i learned in life. It's what i learned from the experience. And i learned but you do very well tell stories to remember points opposed to take to the bottom line which i didn't see very net. You're the five takeaways one. Two three four five. You got it. Let's go it's much better. If you tell the stories so people understand how you think and how you balance one of my weaknesses. I will often. I'm doing an interview. Like an with you. With one of my young ceos our show that i trust in my ceo that i'm sponsoring in a way to be able to share with the interviewer yuri strengths and his weaknesses or her weaknesses and strengths. And then i asked the question. What is the one thing or two things you like. Best about what. I bring to you as you strategic partner as well as an investor in west the one or two things you need to improve on all of them were remarkably good on their answers and i did at one day with one person best person shadowing me each one of them gave a different point but the one who hit home. I thought the most said john. You tend to thank and half comes in you. Connect the dots quickly and you go. Ab z. You get there so fast that you can lose people on the way and we have to slow you down to tell what should we look for on the way what changes have to occur so we need you to slow down. Is you teach us how to go forward on the direction he. They were absolutely right so another lessons learned for the listeners. Ask people not only. What are you doing right where you add value whether it's your own people report to your peers or giving back to society but also asked constantly. What do you need to do to improve. There's so many questions and follow up the one. I want to stick to early. Is this idea of pattern recognition. You brought it up a few times. I think it's something you are naturally endowed to be good at. But also i love the negative lesson of watching places and companies and people that don't change and the impact of that. Can you describe the role that pattern recognition played. Well the pattern recognition. I in the numbers the ability to be able to see the patterns based upon how a order rate went and a given day of any month in a given week of any month any quarter a given quarter in a year and see the patterns so accurately that for forty quarters in a row. We not only didn't miss. We were plus or minus always at the midpoint or above and the range the market even though eighty percent of our business new every quarter so we not only hit our year forecast. We hit the quarter forecasts. Always at the number. Usually two cents above people said well. How do you keep doing that. And i was kinda may. Somebody didn't go to the bottom line. Just take whenever four guess. We said an ad. Wendy do benny's bushehr and that's probably what we're going to do. But it was that pattern recognition that allowed us to spend money during the quarter and be able to develop in ways that others did not pattern recognition that there is a problem or an opportunity we saw at the very beginning which we dan adjust appropriately to. But it wasn't just at the top is all the way impera down through the various engineering and sales arms. They were able to see the numbers so accurately they knew what they needed to change to crack the headed time on it. So that pattern. Recognition is so key the pattern recognition. I've always been driven by customers. There was only one steve jobs. He just knew what to build how he did it in union. I knew him. Recently will always were amazed at still took in seven years. I short shortcut. That i get an idea of a market transition in by new technology and then go straight to customers and say what do you think so pattern. Recognition amplified by listening to the right customers at the right time on what they think. Either on the issue or the company allowed us to do one hundred eighty acquisitions with the highest track record. I think most everyone would ill. In the high tech industry they're modeled after what we did at cisco on we were machine on enquiring and we had the playbook which we haven't talked about patrick but we ran play books on everything we did from acquisitions to be in one or two in a product category. Two how you digitize a country etc in terms of direction so it is that pattern recognition than put into playbook that allows you to move speed. That is not a simple issue playbook pattern recognition than replicating that pattern much like a great sports team who runs the west coast offense or a warriors team the past one hundred thirty times per game which is more than anybody is ever done in history and wins ninety eight percent of the games when they pass a hundred and thirty times on it watching the patterns than replicated in playing it through and being able to tell those stories again on what works invites affable. You mentioned the crazy amount of acquisitions. I think there was more than a dozen. There were over a billion dollars at cisco during your tenure. I'd love to hear more about this playbook that you referenced sort of what the mental models where you had for an acquisition where should emanate fit in the toolkit and what were the best lessons learned doing so many. I'll try to go in the reverse order that you ask. I is when you try to do something that has not been successful in nineteen ninety three. When we did our first one acquisitions had tech. It failed miserably and we knew that we tried to do it with cubby. Get the same result unless we did it differently. Secondly a lot of smart people who worked hard to do acquisitions they failed. So if you're gonna do the same thing they are and think you're smarter just going to be wrong. We did a steady of. Why do we think the company's fill and what would we do different in the approach and the playbook that came out of it is very simple. I just don't do an acquisition that isn't re strategic to. They're really hard. Secondly understand what you acquire protective all cost. If you were bank of america being acquired by nationsbank out of these coast what nations was acquiring bush purely brand and geography. They wanna burn people. They lost a fair amount of the people but they achieve their financial goals. When you're in high tech what you really acquiring his engineers and arc position and if you don't keep those engineers and the sales teams etc. Then it's going to be a bad financial outcome for you most acquisitions. When companies acquired their attrition rate after golden handcuffs comes off for those who don't have golden handcuffs runs over twenty percent a year of their people. So it's a bad outcome so we would only do an acquisition where we felt we could keep the people and we looked at it culturally. If there wasn't a match on culture we walked and most people don't even think about is match on culture if you haven't got a similar culture you're not going to keep the employees. Acquiring is the employees next generation product is going to be a bad financial result so we walked from acquisitions that as we got into the evaluation process. We realized their culture different than ours. They weren't customer focused. We are customer focused but fanatical extent. You could argue. Is that right or wrong but for us. It's who we were customers. I our family employees. We are a family second. We believed in sharing the success of the company with our employees very broad range. We can keep that at the top could have done it easily but we felt if you share the success i you would be much bigger and more effective company and other way the senior execs will be taken care of if the company successful and so we dealt with that type of philosophy and i'd every position on no you've got ugly spots will probably find him but don't let us be surprised so tell us where the problems are and we're gonna choir you anyhow but don't let us find ourselves so in you situations where i found marseils one on stays in options and one where they let information out to the market. That had either come from the investment banker the company even though both of those would have been good financial for we walked and that was a call from the top in terms of the approach. So it is about how you think through these analysis. How you walk that pattern of what works in does not work. When that i missed one. Six hundred million dollar acquisition of a company called flip. It was a super hand held camcorder. That was so unique in the market. And i'd try be consumer market once before then tried once after flip filled all three but with the flip already had the set top boxes in your house when the cable companies or the service providers bringing it in that we were working with the content companies on. How do you add value to that. I felt the video would be even more home generate in the future. And if you could use the camcorder. Dying seth boxes architectures logical move for us and we. We acquired the company for six hundred million. We ran our playbook got off to a great start. People got the market fit. Then steve jobs held up a flip product on stage and said this is an amazing a good product and i want to compliment cisco on us. Mit what comes next. He said i'm gonna give this to you for free. He put it on the iphone for free and he hadn't and i should have realized that the product differential adl was not the physical product. It was the software in architecture and the ability store video in the cloud. And i should have moved earlier to go to all the major manufacturers a phone and say we need you to put the fifth day billion earphones that us be the cloud behind this and a small royalty and maybe we would have outmaneuvered apple in terms of the execution. So i got knocked down. Most people would say well. Your growth is still there. Wants to fight the battle out the jets game out not find a way to win. Apple is just too good and once they closed on us for free my business model would not work so we closed at six hundred million dollar down on it in three months and every time people hold out flaws about cisco's acquisition strategy. They say well the example of failures flip and this is why some companies are not good at querying cisco pretty was not on this list. And i go wait a minute. I told you if we do this world class two out of three acquisitions are gonna work. Which means went out of three. You're going to fail. I'm done twelve billion dollar plus acquisitions all worked at least for the first three to five years. Afterwards nafta that stuff their internal development for this in your beat me up on a six hundred million dollar acquisition in into acquisitions. We did this year one for one point. Two billion one for three point. Two billion both worked out. It's two out of three. The best ones worked out. Tell me again what i did wrong. And i realize at that time you're always gonna be criticized more from your missteps or you mistakes or the ones that didn't work out then. You will the successes. That's just part of leadership get used to it. That's never gonna change so those would be some of the lessons. Learned good and bad what you need to do. And the trade offs six etre. I love the idea of the emphasis on retention of the engineers post acquisition as the key differentiator in a good acquisition. That's a really interesting perspective but also understand that is in a issue where what you acquire is engineers and the products. That is not true when an bank acquires another bank or railroads merger automotive companies merge. So your key is standing what you really acquiring and protecting it at all cost. What did you learn about price and the type of deal you know. Stock debt equity the ability to deploy. You're kind of the eight hundred pound gorilla at the time the ability to deploy cisco's scale and size for effective acquisitions ran was hugely important. Our customers bought into the concept of we build architectures where routing and switching and security and wireless in the cloud servers worked together on those architectures. Therefore we did an acquisition. We say our customers use our own direction. They watched us do acquisitions. Order that works. So they weren't concerned about with this work on it and we positioned on outcome at a time. Everybody else was selling products and direction is basic as that sounds. That's what we did that. Our peers did not. We had a much higher rate on acquisitions working but we built them into architectures which most people couldn't even say the word engineers originally didn't like the concept. They wanted to build best and fast products. I said no. We want to best architectures that we could add. Do and move with speed on in terms of our branding market power. We never used price as a competitive leverage. My view is that we were going for the best margins. The industry that we want a good competitor because we got good competitors they force you to change we would not choose our financial strength to price in ways that others could not keep up. My competitors were ten to twenty percent less expensive than we were with good march so we competed on architectures outcomes and benefits to customers and in the team we had the best. Cfo in the industry was very carter. We had the best sales leader in the industry. We had the best engineers leaders in the industry. We had the best business development team for seven generations of business development. The top person at cisco was the top in the industry on emanate and business development. So we build a machine and a culture that loved to play together that worked culturally together. I would take the team up fishing with me to alaska most the time. It's announced the bahamas at expense entirely and we'd build culture of collaboration and carrying you learn a lot about people when they're out in the middle of nowhere and come around the corner in this Grizzly bear that it could destroy you and it wasn't used aim depot and how they respond to it. Now you adjust one of the people you mentioned was perhaps one of the more talented sales leaders. You mentioned steve jobs. Everyone always thinks about product and obviously product is critical. What gets way less attention far less sexy as distribution. But i think a lot of the story of cisco is incredible distribution story that you largely helped architect along with your team. Can you talk about the lessons. You learned there about building. A great channel and distribution salesforce one of my toughest competitors is a company called. Juniper was one of the very few. And i can say now that we weren't able to knock out. We always competed like we'd like to be competed against and and we were tough. Competitors would never do. Somebody else would have a problem with. They did to us. Juniper hit a really good product and soda wellfleet but what none of them had was a sales machine. We combine and great products with a unbelievable great cells machine in distribution and the juniper leadership several of them nearly as recently as five or six years ago john. We just never understood as you did. The importance accorded products not just selling themselves but the importance of a sales machine that brings value to customers outcome based and the distribution. That goes with so we delivered eighty percent of our product even though we were dragged touch with ourselves people through our distribution channels and our distribution channels was game. You one of the secret sauce says that many people did not understand. It was one of the key secrets win wa wa came at us. Lee offered unbelievable financial and sinise direct. Probably some not as direct as fat to the companies to switch over. How many of them do we lose while way none. You treat people like you like to be treated yourself. You focus on how they win at achieve their objectives. Your therefore good times and bad times. So that's the fabric that we built our company on. We made mistakes along the way and is out says towns far from perfect but we enjoy competing and we tried to compete with. The rules. would like to be competed against the same way. Can you tell me what you've learned from shimon peres. I was fascinated by some of the lessons. You shared with me before about your relationship with him. He was a rich say. No in in israel israeli the a lot of the real creative rains and developing a very effective defense organization that with a population of only about six or seven million could take on countries that had in total hundreds of millions of people eight then switched to peace and focused on. How do you focus on peace and peace in the middle east and pieces. The only way economically is walls benefit of his citizens and others for this fokker. And i literally would go with him into the country even during the toughest of times we go into the streets of upper nazareth and lower nazareth and into the christian communities into the jewish community in their community. He would just be crushed. People want to seem but if somebody wanted shotting they could house right. Presiding that fearlessness. And that trying to do the right thing in the love of the people regardless of religion learned a lot. He was inclusive of everyone. He got me to be. Were patient with people that perhaps disagree with. He taught me. Leadership was lonely asset shimon. What do you mean it's lonely. I've got forty thousand people around me at this time. Were part of a team and he said john. Thanks get really tough. You need to know you will be by yourself. Doesn't mean people won't want to support you but you will be by yourself and boy. He was right when. I made my tough decisions. Real tough decisions. All the people supported me. If they hadn't work they would have changed. Me and two thousand was the worst. I mean you sit up on the roof of your house and you look at. Are you the right person to do this. Your stomach's turning you know you can lay off people. You're gonna do this quicker than anybody else has ever done it. You're telling people ahead of time that this one hundred year flood which it may not be but you believe it is. You can get beat up for that. You're gonna lay off what ended up being seven thousand people you've been announce it an implemented in fifty one days. It is lonely really lonely at just something leaders have to now. The fun thing is now. Get the tc's young ceo startups. About either ship. And i go here. The four characteristics of the ceo in terms of vision strategy for the company. Bill developed recruit the right leadership team implemented vision strategy communication skills which extremely important especially now on the role of social media and culture. And the only for jobs you have. And i teach them how to deal with crisis management here. The rule book you do during economic downturns political challenges. A real problem with the media. And here's how you many sue that and then i'll remand him that. It will be lonely during this time period when you hit the duff. Tom's and while you're friends. And i wanna help you some will turn on you. You never anticipated the media who could senior blazes wednesday. We'll come right at you the next day usually a different reporter but the same publication would do it on it. This is just part of leadership. And you're about to enter and not depend on the situation a quarter or perhaps even a year three four five quarters of really tough times and i'm gonna tell you it's gonna be hard on you and you will be very lonely and teach them how to do that and then at a little bit of humor. You remind him that. I've seen this not done. This and i know you're going to go through a tough weekend. Based on what i just shared with you planning for what's going to occur and i'm gonna have a bourbon and ginger and think about you and the point that i'm making a little bit of humor but it also is not fun for me now crisis management and having seen so many of them than some rights on them wrong is so helpful to others. That reminding them like shimon. Presdent leadership is so lonely. Otherness think like a teenager always think out of box. We head him over here a house. He wanted to come to silicon valley. He was constantly benchmarking and he said john. I wanna come to your home and this is at the time. There is huge friction between israel and iran and there are strong rumors probably more than rumors that there may be a defensive strike by israel against iran and so he was target's share with my wife that she has to do this and she said of course we knew that probably do the best of protect him and us while he's here is it turned out. There are eight different security groups from israel the us local cyber crews people with rifles on the house. People are in the woods looked like a scene from meaty with lights and everything going on and yet he when he came to the house that evening he was meeting with the number startup up some disease in some friends of the biggest companies here in the valley. He was the most relaxed man around. He immediately started to talk and as he did. So will within five minutes. All of us to stop eating. Were trying to find a piece of paper and pencil to take notes. And he was teaching office about leadership about dealing with problems he was sitting in the safest seed in the dining room. That would require the hardest shot for a sniper from way far off to hit him. He didn't even sweat. He always had a great sense of humor calmness during the tough times and he said john i understand. You've got electric car. And i said yes sir. I do hybrid. He said i want to go see it and maybe drive it. I said mr president. Your security team told me i could only have you in the dining room area here in only in this seed and early in the living room area and that i was to make sure you didn't leave this area. He said john. You know how the president back. Yes sir i look over the security team and they were already scrambling so we down of elevator as we get out there he looks at this car and you really gets fascinated by it and say john. I wanna drive it. Let's go all of a sudden you see people scramble every which way how did he get ahead of this and his chief of staff came over and she said john. I don't know how to tell you this. He does not have a driver's license and he has driven in over a decade pass. It this is really interesting so we got agassi. I got into the passenger seat. Were sitting there and he's asking questions who's going through erase scam. Went outside with what's going to happen next. They said okay. I just wanted to get a feel for it. Let's go back upstairs. Venue roundtable with your friends. He had a element of making everybody feel comfortable around him. He taught you. He said i'm ninety seven years old. But you've got gotta think and dream like you were a teenager again to really do innovation have innovation. Gump from twenty year olds. They still are thinking like a teenager. But have the education to really take the risk and changes but he said age is not your issue on innovation. It's thinking like a teenager. It is and it's an important category for all of us to have as we move forward. I'd love to play off that with your relationship with the squadron of young founders that you now work with and spend a lot of your time with you mentioned the four areas are the key responsibilities of any ceo. And i think the first you said it was mission and vision. Which i think if you think like a teenager maybe you do a better job of that first one. What in those four dimensions do you find your role to be the most effective at helping younger entrepreneurs originally. I thought the first two would be most important. How do you combine mission and vision was sustainable differentiation in the market. Because that's how you get your financing. That's how you get the economic result successor and when people write about grace startups in great leaders of startups. They always right about mission invasion the second element which the leaders either already understand or learn quickly. It's about having the leadership team that can implement that vision and mission and work with you effectively and changing part of that leadership team as you grow because it's almost never when you can take your top seven leaders from the start up all the way through and make changes as hard to do as fishy for people you love and care about on the direction. So i thought that would be where i'd add the most value teaching them how to scale organization revolution when to change people. How do you do acquisitions. is your vision. Really tight is a sustainable house. A competitor others compete on market. Transitions in that vision. Not against competitors etc but actually the most important elements in that approach is the third and fourth point. It is communications and it is culture and especially during the tough times. What gets you through is how well you communicate to the press to your employees to your shareholders to your customers and culture. What a lot of people really never grass thesis esco is so hard to beat. It was culture. I mean we were. One family took care of each other like family. We played together as family. If you didn't fit into that. We moved you outside the company and my mistakes often that i left somebody who was not a cultural match. Stay in the company. Too long now remind people at the startups. The miniature get somebody. Who's not cultural match. I don't harm secondly if it if they are in the company you've got the face amount of it because the damage they do. The culture and communications is actually wear often. Add the most benefit to these young ceo's even though at first most of them really are not interested as much in communications in if it is communication dismore had i get people to invest in the company and an cultures of the often. You get spend time on one of my best examples of that. Was the ceo of a company called as new york. Just recently came out of stealth mode amazing artificial intelligence customer experience company that understood bishen strategy. Remarkably will their average orders like ten million dollars. When they were still in stealth i found Etc but culturally when i'd share with cassava their. Ceo's just brilliant than really good. He didn't seem interested in the culture. And i finally said we learned that over time about the time i quit talking to him about it. He said john. I gotta presentation business meeting this next week to mind group would you mind reviewing it with u. s. it of course and it turned out when he did that with me. It wasn't a business review at all. It was a cultural review on who they are how they were to get their base to fall in review. Everybody else and he got he understood. Culture has to be owned by the ceo. Not human resources owned by the ceo. Human resources is the one that implements. You don't kid about your culture. Don't put things on your culture that you really don't consider really important really important. If you are saying family i and you treat people that way. You are seeing customers. I and you treat people that way. It's just do the right thing then. You always make your decision on. What's the right thing. Regards the financial implication of it. I believe that every year you take a small group to alaska to be outside together a group of the leaders you back or other young leaders what sorts of transformations happen on a trip. Like that their magical. I did it originally team building. What i didn't realize is how much each of us learn from each other. How much that would calls the team to stay together. Long after other teams did not out of the group that i did this were at cisco for twenty years. It was mainly cisco less a few outside france that we did the trip with and then over the last four years. It's with about ten experience leaders who've seen the movies from different angles from a supply chain angle from a sales angle from an engineering perspective from a financial perspective from a human resource cultural perspective and cabana with twelve startups. And then having them each go out and in the boat so we to be on your with that person for either half day or full day you go into remote locations you really get to know each other well etc you fly in on onto the plane and they come pick up to the end of the day you get to know each other real will the evenings. We have toast. I call on different leaders at different times to say what was your day. Like what was your takeaway. What was your cultural aspect that you learned as factors in their communications is francine them getting put on the spot. It's reminding him that you don't want to have more the wondering of wag on you to make a misstep there even though your team was still love you if you do make missteps. It's building culture while some of the lessons learned on how to build great engineering organizations or great sales channel organizations and the knicks about sixty percent male forty percent female but one of my favorite sessions is when i had a young ceo vj out of been drop in atlanta and he was learning about diversity but he was trying to understand more the importance of diversity and why diverse teams out execute teams that look alike and the importance of gender and that diversity not from a negative perspective. But he's just saying teach me teach me how to do it. Dramatically better than others and so it had a full day official name and there were five of us there on it and we waiting for the boat to come and pick us up and we were on the issue of inclusion. And how do leap people. How do you create an environment. Where going to be one of the most attractive places for females to work and part of the culture. They wanna be a part of and one of the mistakes that you're gonna make as leader. What are the trade offs and we're sitting in the water. That's only about a foot deep and waiting for the plane. They come up and talk with us. And i have three of the top women in the world in their industries ranging from pharmacy goal to supply chain operational leadership etc. Two channels and. They're teaching him. Also they would teach me a little bit as a reminder and the conversation was so good. I just got up and grassley while quietly away from the group and i went back and i took a picture with. Bj with three of the top women executives in the world and their categories sitting there completely engaged in the middle of alaska birds background. I don't know if there is a bear in the background on runways way or not and we just finished fishing. We cut our limits and bat. Was the picture i value the most three women with their backs to vj soaking it up and learning. So is that ability to bring together teams and cultures and room make it happen and build relationships for life so when these twelve. Ceo's go back. They can call up any one of the senior people who've been through movies before instead. How do you handle this. You know this person here. What would you suggest etc. And it's also what any good sports teams understand. You are so much more powerful when you build your own company with the team. That is completely united with diversity and differences of opinions when you build an ecosystem like two channels around you consultant surveillance that others do not have that makes you near unbeatable. What's that worth. an answer. Return almost priceless cultural return a believable and when people talk about what i do quotas vce. I'm not a vc. In the traditional sense. I'm a strategic partner person. Did touch them grow in scale. I will provide them tough. Love will always be right. But i'll tell you what i think. The trade offs are and how form friendships for life. And i will only back you as long as your culture. What you represent is in the areas that i believe that it should be definitely might be as a right but i don't advise companies that have a different culture than i believe that i try to represent. I try to teach people how important it is. Chinese made a career of pattern recognition. Seeing transitions happen over and over again you mentioned earlier. This change that will disrupt the number of jobs available and now not keeping up with that pace to replace those jobs being lost to automation et cetera. What are the other major transitions that you are watching in the world right now. I think the biggest transitions is every company. And every employee of every organization will be a digital company a digital employees regardless of age and tech company doesn't matter if you're manufacturing government defense retail technology companies understanding that is the core foundation and will completely transform. The biggest transition is the speed of change alluded earlier to speed of job. Destruction an automation. That actually is shorted through the downturn and the pandemic ways that people might not have thought would occur other elements is did two percent of the large companies exist. Today would not exist in a decade in a meaningful way and understanding back to the point that we talked about earlier the importance of a lot more startups at scale and yet how many government leaders regardless of your politics are focusing on startups as a key economic engine for their future to create a regulatory environment that is very friendly to start ups and very much conducive to the implications of that used the. Us ample remotely. I think silicon valley as a wakeup call coming so does new. York city and seattle eighty one percent of the employees of the companies are saying to think about. Should i've either diff- somewhere else. Think about being somewhere else. Understanding them when these transitions occur. They wait for no one just because you lead in one generation of a win decade. there's no entitlement. you must change john. I'm so sad to be at the end of our time together. But i'm forced to turn to my traditional closing question which has to ask you for the kindest thing that anyone's ever done for you. The kindest thing does ever done to me when my parents my dad taught me how to dream make dreams come true and how to deal with the toughness that life inevitably deals to you with the onus etc. My mom taught me. The emotional accu sat in the house. How she never a young person ever let me go to bed. Mad hit my sisters are or others who absolutely deserved by the way reagan about you. Don't go to sleep angry. You learn how to forgive so probably the kindest thing was how those fearance balance balanced me and my two sisters and tatis the trade off in life it has been so you need to partially my success but also i've been able to deal with the challenges john. This has been so much fun. I'm going to have to listen a few times to be able to extract all the lessons. You share with us through great stories so appreciative of your time. Thanks for doing. This is my pleasure. Your amazing interviewer you several questions. I'd not heard before which is unusual. A of hope your listeners enjoyed it and understand that if you agree with everything said you're not failed. I wanna make him comfortable. I want you to learn about leadership and mistakes made and it's fine to disagree. I actually think that makes you stronger as a leader and as a nation by having healthy given acorn issues. Well thanks so much again. This has been a real pleasure. Lots to learn. I really appreciate it now. Patient this episode was brought to you by microsoft for startups microsoft for startups is a global program. Dedicated to helping enterprise ready. Bb startup successfully scale their companies in this five part mini series. We talked agree. Lock partner som- otemachi and microsoft for startups lead. Jeff ma about why companies should partner with microsoft startups. In this week's episode we talked with psalm. Motamedi a partner gray lock about his initial investment in microsoft startups customer abnormal security. So som- perhaps you could begin by giving the audience a bit of brief background on yourself. What sort of investing you do and how. You came across abnormal security. I'm one of the general partners here at gridlock. I focus on the enterprise side of our practice gridlock. A fifty five year old venture firm that primarily invested consumer enterprise software and what we invest across all stages. I personally really focus on being the first capital partners entrepreneurs whether that's at the seed or series as stage and focus on new companies being started in saas. Am allen date. Infrastructure and security of mobile is a very interesting story for a secretary lock. I think one of the things that's unique about. Gridlock is we've over. The years spent time in been fortunate to actually help. Initiate new companies from scratch in our offices like workday in palo alto networks historically and more recently companies like sumo logic awake security in a normal security so it has a little bit of unusual story. My partner ashim and i first met evidence. Sanjay founders about normal. There were known to us Lock because they previously worked at a company called teleport which was also initiated at gray. Lock by now partner. Josh mcfarland that company was building. High-skill machine learning systems for ad tech use cases and i company ultimately went on to be acquired by twitter and evidence. Sanjay left that company with the ambition to go start a new company that would take expertise around building high scale. Highly performant machine learning systems to solve an important problem for the enterprise and so what they did over a multi-month month before the company was started before a line of code had been written and before we invested was speak with something like a hundred enterprise. Ceo's in seaso's to do customer discovery in problem discovery and donaldson me led them to landing on the idea for security. The basic premise being email continues to be the dominant channel for business communication and therefore the integrity insecurity of email is of paramount importance for enterprises. What's happened over the last five to seven years is attackers. Have gotten more sophisticated. And a threat landscape round email has shifted from spam and phishing too much more targeted spearfishing and business compromise attacks. And what evidence. Andre realize was they could take some of the techniques that they use a tele part to solve these more advanced attacks and use machine learning systems to build baselines of what normal employee communication looks like and then catch anomalies deviations from that in take that approach to build a new email security solution so we have the chance to to ride shotgun with them during that multi-month discovery process. And at the end you know. They had a one point zero product document. They had an initial set of customers. Who are ready to try the product. Once it was delivered in they started the company and we were lucky to to partner with now. What are some of the things that you're investing before a line of code is written. I find that quite interesting stage tobacco company. that's then going to be selling into very large businesses. what was it about. The discovery process the conversations with cio's and others. That made you confident enough that there would be buyers once the thing was built. What are the signals that you need to see as an investor to gain that confidence. I think when we invest before a line of code has been written. We spent a lot of time thinking about the market dynamics and whether those dynamics can support the start of a new company and so either. If you're starting a new company from scratch your you're either. We think of it in three buckets. You're replacing an existing incumbent you're exploiting new market that's just begun to emerge or you're going to create a new market from scratch so i remember when it happened in sanjay started this. They had mocked up what a prototype could look like and as you showed this to different. Seaso's a very large percentage of them resonated with. Hey this isn't important problem around these advanced spearfishing and business email compromise attacks. It's not served while the existing in security providers and if a new solution came out the had the characteristics you're summarizing we'd have high interest in trying something like that out so what evidence andrea were able to do was take some of the customers who got the most excited and convert them into early design partners and those people essentially signed up with something that arrogance even more valuable than dollars early on which is. Hey if you guys start this. It's so important to us that we will figure out some cadence to sync with you and help drive your product roadmap so you end up building something that not only suits our needs but suits the needs of other customers like us and then when that product is delivered will purchase a product. And that's it's rare to get that depth that signal early on and i think it speaks to the importance of a problem and so when we saw the combination of that breadth and depth. That actually made it. Very obvious that this was informed market opportunity to find more episodes. Where sign up for our weekly summary visit investor field guide dot com thanks for listening to founders field guy.

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82. Melahel, la auto sanacin

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Sadhguru on the God Particle - Higgs Boson (Part 2)

Sadhguru's Podcast

25:13 min | 2 weeks ago

Sadhguru on the God Particle - Higgs Boson (Part 2)

"It would think that they called it. The god particle. It seems somebody wanted to call it the goddamn particle so they just put good particle and that's a very clever ploy marketing ploy. You must be glad that Scientists are becoming market savvy. They're always being in a subtle way. Now getting little over it so you know for most people. That idea of science is just the new telephone model. That's coming up. The next modify phone did once all these people who never ever what interested in any kind of physics now talking about particle physics world over. Everybody's talking about particle physics. That's an achievement breaking port proton and coming up with the boss on. Is that an achievement that needs to be seen but it's definitely an achievement that suddenly the whole world at least educated part of the world is thinking particle physics. That's an achievement. that's a good attempt. At least people are thinking of science as not a way of milking the existence. Not entirely at least a little bit. They're willing to spend ten billion dollars just to know something. I like that now. No technological us but they're willing to spend ten billion dollars and thirty years just to know something that sounds very spiritual to do usually doesn't cost that much but so having chewed one thing having made a social goal scientifically. What does it mean in. Yoga received dismay. that is existences lack. This that is something called as stool. Shuna shiva stolen. Means the gross existence. Physicality is tooling everything that you can see everything that you can send through five cents organs. Everything that you can see smell taste here and touch is considered stolen. This can be analyzed with your intellect understood and grasped and this is always made of as we know today of arno or atoms because it's physical in nature. It's a complete block off. Building block of existence is an atom. And if it's made of an atom once enough number of atoms are there we can touch it smell it. We can taste it. We can see it if it becomes big enough. Initially in a microscope after that with our bad ice could see it but if it goes beyond the perception of the five senses but still it is physical in nature we call it shook so venue entered into it still physical but you're not able to grasp. Why do what you want. You cannot grasp it through his through five senses. Nor can you analyze it through your intellect that dimension approach it via quality she should non obvious non that means an extraordinary knowledge gun or nana means knowledge vicinity. None is extraordinary or significant knowledge so vicious non is an effort to begin. The word began is being ready. Loosely used today but essentially means this those diamonds which cannot be perceived through five cents if you perceive them that is began so today sciences entering those spaces because never ever. Is anybody going to see a higgs boss on. They're only going to see its footprint even now the only other footprint they did not see a higgs boson but because the footprint they believe he's dave somebody's gone by the left the footprint in the men but we know it's gone by the going to the forest we see the puck marks and say okay. There's there's a tiger. We haven't seen the tiger in fact in tropical forest. It's very difficult to see a tiger off but we will see puck mark. Sharon day dislike that this footprint so that entering vicious gun. If you go further it will become sean. Yeah that means. Absolute emptiness their f. Your intellect will be completely useless. Your census will be completely useless because there is no physicality where there is no physicality your sense organs and intellect would become absolutely redundant if you go beyond union. That is something that we refer to as she when i say. Shiva don't the calendar man. Some sure she means that which is not. If you touch that which is not we have always seen. It is not physical nature. He did not physical in nature means it does not exist but it is a paik. How can that be. You did not in the realm of your logical mind today. Modern science believes the whole existence has to obliged to human logic which is a limited where approaching life the whole existence will not oblige to him in logic. You think you can fit the whole existence into your head. No no your head fits into the existence. The existence will not fit into your head. Your logic can analyze the physicality of the existence. Once you cross the physical dimension. You're logic is completely out of its route so did have because this is a dialectical culture. The same science has been expressed in story reforms. I i cannot go to the whole story too long story. But when i told the stories one of the top scientists in the world and i was speaking to him and i explain this. This is how it is. This is the nature of existence. This is from the orbit law. But we're always told not to believe the law till it becomes reality experience and this is the reality in my experience. If you go like this this is what will happen. So when i spoke to the very top level scientists who the nobel laureate. And i was telling him that this is what it is there were group of hell did was a group of them and when i explained this is how it is within me. What do you think this had said. Google you can give a mathematical backbone to what you're talking. This is nobel prize stuff. Can you give a mathematical background. I said i'll never bothered about the mathematics. It's true for me and it's dispense from everything that i am because it's true for me everything that i ever was changed simply because i touched this diamond chain within me. I don't wish to work equations for that. An enemy noble price wouldn't mean anything to me. I would be too embarrassed by such things so this story because i would make it so brief. There could be holes in it. If i make it elaborate enough there will be no holds the story to perfect theory and we have proved it within ourselves that it is true but you want to build a ten billion dollar instrument under the ground to do the same thing. It's up to you. This can be experienced proved within yourself if you are willing to go into the depths of what disease because this is made exactly the same way the whole universe is made if you go deep enough into this and you know how this is made by inference. You know how everything in the universe is made by influence and even now science is also only inferring today. Modern times has admitted that it's an ever expanding universe or an endless universe rather ever expanding a yoga. Tom they're calling it an endless universe if it's an endless universe trying to travel across the universe and find out the nature of the universe his untenable isn't it simply out. Of course the only way you could know the nature of the universe nato creation and the source of creation is by going inward because whatever you eight in the morning whether it's those banana has been transformed into human being in the last few hours. Nobody else can do this. Except the source of creation suv. The source of creation is right here if you want to know anything about creation isn't the best place to consult if you want to know anything about creation easing the source of creation the best place to consult. And if you had to go to heaven for this you could give it up if it is right here. Why don't you consult simply because you too enamored by your own thought. You think you're going to capture the whole universe with your thoughts. It is a foolish way to approach the only reason why scientists said weived east because of technology. It keeps throwing out technologies if not technologies. Were coming out of science. They were talking about all the things that they have been talking. People were beaten them down for the money that the spent and it's happened in the past when there will not lawler technologies and people just book signs. They were beaten down isn't so science has its value in terms of utility but signs cannot open up the existence for human experience. It will not. It can never do it. Because they're going with intellect intellect as an instrument works only to dissect the only way intellect can approach. Anything is to break it up and see if you ask a scientist to find out something about this flower. First thing is he will break it up into pieces. I think i should ask a scientist to make me understand. One of you go dissecting you then if you break this up human all many parts of this you may know the structure of it human or the chemistry of it but you will not know the beauty of it you will not know the completeness of it because the flower is an expression of a plant finding its fulfillment desires thing for the plant for its life. This is the highest happening. It's the flowering of that life. You will not know that you will not see the hand off the creator in this if you break it up but as a whole if you're willing to pay attention absolute attention if in your approach you make this flour more important than your south and keep your focus on it. You will see the whole universe in this. If you break it up you will have petals. You will have other parts of the flower and you will come to welker conclusions and then you will learn how to make use of it so right now unfortunately our approach what we call assigns has become like this how to use everything in the universe but our benefit. If you see in america would i was. This happened when i when i was in college. This happened about four years ago when i was in my show. The first time. I conducted a program after many many years and all kinds of people turned up. My teachers from school and college turned up. They wanted to see what has happened to me. So after i spoke that and we had to even ten and then my english data came and hugged me and she said now. I know why wouldn't let me teach robert frost. I said why man. Why would i not let you teach robert i. I like frost. She said no. You do remember you. Let me do trust then. I remembered one day. She came and she opened the book and she introduced robert frost as a glorious port and then she started off woodson loudly dock and deep. I said stop. I said a man who calls it would. I don't want to listen to him. She said no. No robert. Frost is a great. I said i don't care how great he's a man who calls a three. Would i will not let into. I didn't let it. i didn't let it frost. So many years he comes up to me and she says now. I know why wouldn't let so if a tiger comes here now from the mountain. Timing if you come from sri lanka. That's different if a tiger comes down from the mountain looks at you. He would think wow dinner so you look at it three and you'd think would alright for tiger to do that because that's all he knows but it's not alright for you to do that. Isn't it but right. Now that is all scientists become anything we see how to make anything we see how to make a bit you in an invisible atom. We won't leave you in the goddamn bulletin already. People are talking about in how many ways it could be used. We could make a boost on bomb understand. If you make a bomb all of you will just vanish. We don't even have to deal with it varies. Yes because you will cease to exist. Disliked the bush on shooting. You dead or burning you to that. If we make all the protons in your body collide with each other. You'll just want is technology but they will tell you no no no it. Could there could be medical uses to hit the. We could do this do that. Yes i know all that but just the idea. It doesn't matter what you cannot look at anything without thinking. In what way can i make use of. It is a very cross between east with this level of existence. You will have everything and you'll have nothing. This is modern life. People have everything like never before and they got nothing in their lives. Nothing that you can call of any word people who have everything and cannot feel life in any significant way when they die. The moment of death comes they will see that the spent this whatever number of years without living moment. Because what can i get. What can i get is it. Should we not to live because from what you get you can only make a living. It's only by what you give that you make life so giving does not mean money or something else something else. It is just that this moment. If you look at these three how totally you can give yourself to this tree. That is how intensely you know. Life you sit here and calculate. What can i get out of the street. You will completely miss life completely. Life will ever you so this kind of science which denies you. Life should be restricted. If you ask me. I know i'm going to be hugely unpopular because somebody's going to twitter and said go to say science should be curtail. P- it's alright. I'm telling you a science which is driven just by. What can i get out of. It needs to be controlled a bit. Otherwise human beings will have everything and they'll have nothing when that is your expedience then you will destroy everything today. The planet is not being destroyed because of something else. It is just unbridgeable. Use of technology isn't it could have been used for our well-being but it's booking against us because we have not worked other dimensions of life just going with this. What can i get. What can i get if you go with this. There will be no planet left after some time but even if the planet is left suppose we roping another ten planets still. It will not be enough we will still have nothing will have everything. This is my experience. Science should have been just a question no not exploit the creation. It is just a longing to no human longing to know. Wants to find expedition in every possible way. Physical sciences is one of the waste perfectly fine but once it starts serving the masters who sponsored it then if businesses sponsored it. They're looking for profit from it. You've nations press sponsored it. They're looking how to make more powerful weapons out of all the time you misunderstand this the cutting edge science always fast becomes cutting edge military technology only after that it comes down to other uses. How many lives has it taken. How many more do we wanna take. That's of course. so this. Got 'em particle one. Good thing it's done is the whole world is thinking particle physics. I like that. That's nice but do you know the bozon is named after set the boasts notice. No it's an indian mathematician self taught. Mathematician is albert einstein acknowledged. He said the western scientists couldn't take a single step without the indian mathematicians. The fundamentals of mathematics came from the east. But always here the other at toss of the culture said you should not do anything that's exploitative to nature because nature was seen as mother nature. You don't go about raping mother nature. We'll take only what you need. Nothing more because of that attitude. This science was not converted into technology. And that is the wisest way to handle the science just as a tool away to know nothing beyond that and technology must be really controlled. What is absolutely needed. That's all that should be done. This brittle usage already people are talking how to use the bozon that they are not seen. Then we can use the atom that we have not seen so it doesn't matter what you see you're thinking of how to use it. This attitude unfortunately has been foot. Fueled by that toot of sites this needs to be checked otherwise it will be our nemesis for sure. Be goddamn everything.

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136- Emmanuel Itier - Ep. 2

Wealth Transformation Podcast

28:08 min | 1 year ago

136- Emmanuel Itier - Ep. 2

"Are you so full of fear? You can't even talk about money and wealth. Dr Cheryl is showing you. How shift your mindfulness with your wealth relationship? Most people don't even like to talk about money from personal level. You can learn how to get past the fear and talk about money and wealth and free yourself to a healthy relationship no matter where you are in your life. Are you ready for some good changes? This really affects all areas of your life. It's time for the wealth. Transformation podcast. Now here's your host. Dr Cheryl Shire our special guest. This evening is Emmanuel. Ata this this is the second segment of our two part series with Emmanuel Emmanuel Ata inexperience feature film producer Emmanuel directed thriller. Tell me no lies. In two thousand. And the horror films scarecrow in two thousand two. He completed in two thousand twelve. The peace documentary the invocation narrated by Sharon stone with Desmond Tutu. The Dalai Lama and Deepak Chopra and many other worldwide peace activists Emmanuel also produced so many more films that I can't name them all Emanuel has also been a successful music and film junior cheer journalist for both rock magazines French TV networks and the Internet for the last Twenty Years Emanuel has been a buyer for various film French film distribution companies for the last twenty years. He was on the board of directors of the Santa Barbara Film Festival for a decade and he writes poetry he is also very involved with charities and the political world. He grew up in France and moved in to the US. Twenty five years ago. He resides in Santa Barbara California with his wife and two sons finally Emmanuel released in late two thousand thirteen another inspiring documentary celebrating women around the planet. Fam- women healing the the world. This documentary earned several words around the world. Mr Ata is now directing five documentaries in order to keep making peace one movie at a time. This new series is called the universe. Alice collection documentaries for conscious humanity. I applaud Emmanuel for his purpose and passion forgetting these messages out to the world. Welcome welcome welcome Emmanuel. It is an honor to have you here with us On my show wake up Dr Cheryl and it was such an honor to meet you over at the San Rafael Theater. And thank you for sharing your beautiful son. Max with us on this. There is no more waiting only time to act. And sometimes even if you don't feel quite ready you do it anyway because you've already knew and by the way you you might fail so what yes. I we did show you. My marriage was no kids. I show my business and so what does kill me now and then you just move on and off to to make it better the next time and you know Emmanuel I don't look at it as a failure. I look at it as it's it's it's a learning curve. You know every challenge. We have is to make us better into work harder at. It took a right of passage. It's as I say what doesn't kill you makes gone. In fact I had I had Dr Bowl and on my last show and she just she said that exact same statement absolutely so again. It's never got a better time to be a woman you birth birth women see men cannot heal the patriarchy but women and men together. Could what a real man does stokes the flame of effeminate he stokes the radiance of the feminine. He lets her everything she can be. And she is the power source of the universe. You have to give new tools and new vocabulary allowing space for emotions and communication and also supporting young women in finding their voice and speaking their truth if men raised children as much as women do that awakens and man the nurturing that is in all human beings and it allows boys and girls to see that men can be as loving and nurturing. It's like Puccio fear on the side that the put emmys again. We live in a society that does A descent that that daughters on all your eat. But it's you you be scared and an outlier. Yes surrender to meet so it's it's a theme. That's why a lot of people realized crisis because they were taught they are eat. They'll the center of the universe and then they always doubts in this field and and they don't know where to go at the end it's a it's a building it's radio especially for managing a lot of men. That's what I call the shoe coming complex. Where the realizing their forties odom. I'm not a millionaire. I will tell the story. I don't have the trophy while they are fed-up no you know it's an trust who's got usually really bad people. You know people who stole from Tokyo to coordinate and a lot of them don't have the consciousness storage out. The issue have rich people. So don't envy the one person what needs to happen. Is that the one thousand nine percent we are needs to enrich themselves emotionally intellectually spiritually and all three done to challenge and be much more for community in the next step especially in time of economics is really what. I call communitize where it's not coming easy. It's not so sure it's it's about. The notion of community were okay. If you don't have money what can you do? And if I don't have money what can I'll show and it's about trading services. It's about helping each other. It's not everything has to you. Know depend on a CD Kamensky. That has no more value. Anyway because all government of treating stupidly minnows. So we know that there is no value. It's ridiculous because of life today since and rid of it so we have to figure out us the ninety nine percent while the majority a new way to to live in community and live with families and actions a piece and now you know what the the peace movement fail to do because after Too much drugs and sex. Well we can do without the drill again. The sexiest good. But don't tell me about balancing act and balancing balance from an science. It's about talking and communicating and refreshing and refining refining. We re being in touch resolving you might for needs to the ninety nine percent that we are needs to enrich themselves emotionally intellectually spiritually and hopefully to exchange and be much more community. I think the next step especially in offer economics is really what I call community terrorism where it's not communities it's not social is but it's about the notion of community where okay if you don't have money what can you do and and and what can also and it's about trailing services. It's about helping each other. It's not everything has rolling edge of our species right now going to fix your own depend on a CD Transi that has no value anyway. Because our government of preaching stupidly Manos so we know that there is no me. It's ridiculous because of life today. It's an rid of it. So we have to figure out us the ninety nine percent while the majority a new way to live in a community different families and actions and peace. And now you know what What the EPA movement failed to do because they probably abused too much drugs and sex. Well we can do without the drug and sex. But don't forget about balancing act and balancing Balan from insurgence. It's about talking and communicating and refreshing and refining refining. We being in touch with zone. You might so I have a question about You know your life's in France verges here. You know what what could you do are you? Do you think that you are growing exponentially more here than you would in France? Or maybe that's not even a fair question. No it's actually. It's exactly goes to the sentence I was saying I think if I am therefore to think France I was I think in France was too much cut up into society. That's based on the I. Think that you the descartes sentence and they didn't finish it. They doing talking to talk too much and then to put their token to enact is drama. They prefer tell you at the end of the of the talk. But I don't even want to try anything so I actually coming to. America was for me a blessing. Because I don't decide because I'd always urges for me to put my fourteen action and I couldn't do it in France whether you know that you know. I was a little intern in In many production companies. That you don't want me to do. They just want me to be is a slave at the bottom of the pilot so it was very frustrating. So at least I came in the country web tougher because it's it's me no it's more competitive it's migrations but it allowed me to do another thing. I couldn't have done that and again after it's about balancing and it's about going back and forth and teaching the American to be more on the bench to Damore an interest so I can focus my asking me something again. Yes same dissection hub so that that so. I don't miss it when I go back and forth as much as I can and try to communicate what I learned here in special internal said the technique of walking of being really efficient and saying yes no quick leader after thinking about it But instead of being cut into my foot like most French people doing and doing anything at all the answers restricting practical examples for example when I sailed up my documentaries from American company. I'm going to get an answer. Yes no a week. Maybe two five people. I might not get an answer at all. That's not a vase. Nothing most people today with the technology to and so back to me and says you movie doesn't fit a pipeline of him or we don't like it but but to say that they'll tell you don't take my movies. It's fine we we can agree to disagree But does give me an answer. You know. It's IT'S A. It's it's really being a co-op not to answer to somebody was doing especially many turned like. I do please. Debt to opinion needs for Emmanuel. What do you do to relax Well what do we shut down my computer and especially after? Maybe my wife said how you too much. Sometimes I have a tendency to be too much content to mark Sharon so sometimes families grading Q. On the air and it forces you to just shut off the and try to be one with your family on a natural on the intimate so I don't I don't have a ritual selena Meraz worried of of of of having a ritual. Because I really think once you educate you bring to a retrial. The brand that get addicted to that and the brand gately's so I'm one of these guys I would say what at least if you want to have a ritual try plenty and changes so trick your brain at expanding and you surprise you talk to people who have routine of. Oh my wake up and I go to church that I go to work. You know what? You're going to become slips. Yes Brands GonNa Forest. Can we see over and over with people and that makes for human beings were falling asleep and not only they fall asleep but the become kind of a little bit of a fascist? Figure where you know if you don't do what they do think something wrong with you know you. You don't realize you're missing the rest of the world of possibilities and and when you are living your purpose which I think you are living your purpose as a change agent as I feel like. I'm living my purpose. I don't think I you can't be stuck in your brain in an old pattern because you're always creating new things is being creative again. I mean it's fine to meditate for two zero five six zero five minute whatever because we're all different individuals That's another thing right when I see all schools or teachers or importance. You're that you're ready to visa but amount of time. No different creatures true it differently. It's like we made. It seem to work with skin cancer patients on certain people in some of the treatment that don't because you have a different constitution men and even so the basic DNA same after that there are plenty of different seasons of the jeans instead of the the whale grandfathered Sherman's notes. So we all the prototype. Tation that that some people do could be bike riding or walk or swimming or whatever so I have to admit to you that I am doing deepak. Chopra and the Oprah's twenty one day meditation and I've been doing it for two years every quarter because it's like you're connecting with the global community and that's what I like about it. Yeah I again. I mean after all these good things and you try to find your own way as well. Because that's all you become creativity. Learn From and Oprah known from Deepak and then try and signed the Yes India. Let yourself come liter sleigh. No no no. So you know if you believe in the deep breath of any scriptures. Nobody grueling just described such for me. That's not true. You always said connect with one. That was no preaching. There was no like. Oh we need to church and we need to jail natural. It's into about connecting and collecting means. You need to keep moving. You need to circuited. Not only with your brand. But physically and Mito the future Rosen and SCOVILLE countries. I'm environment and not so united. Spent train bald. The amount of growth that I've been since I've done be students military's because I've been think twice all around the world twice so the amount of people hang out tweets and I loaned for him and the environment and food and originating. It's it's fantastic. Went people said well. What are you at the time and whether you feel happy an imminent everywhere? We all citizen of the planet everywhere. We shoot up each everywhere we should. It's it's family it's already Jenn. It's all of because it is true. Jim Dally go food the appearance of all of it all. It's all the leads to the sense of beauty food energy and we're here to share with one another yes absolutely. Yeah absolutely. You're that's that that you I will commence you can only be happy if you show you penis given your so. So how is what is the next step for FAM- WELL FEM? Has Been really really on the on the circuit in the US for quite a long time. Now we really state in Chattanooga on September. Eleven as you're up and we did a few theatrical run every that we went and we keep doing that but it has been released so immediately online worldwide the game itself has been basically conspiracy to create an economic standard of living that is high and any suffering and human suffering that had to result it would be on the other side of town or it would be on the other side of the world. He wouldn't see it because one of the things about Americans is as individuals we have a conscience but collectively our capacity for denial and grandiosity has been more than laughable. It's become dangerous spread Bassano but we spread TWAS buried year-olds yearly. And at least a little bit of for us when And then it's go on the view of the Internet also on high tunes email Amazon. And then it's GonNa come out on BLU ray. Dvd On June twenty seven. So it's been a very extensive in stem of the distribution We also distribute setting to colleges in high school And really after that. It's it's really a restful promotion and marketing of feet and then we have also formed sales company. That little by little is spreading FAM- Around the world whether it's let America Europe solely to Germany Austria Switzerland. So you know it's it's a constant work type of movie that you can work with for two years easy and you'll never be so. Tell us about your latest Documentaries that you working on. Sh documentary is a series of five. And it's a one on law and military scone while of story and then I'm doing another one called we the people a revolutionary couldn't make some politics where we're going to study economics and other what he's got installed and is going to be a study of spots through the fundamental earth wind fire water because as a relationship element And one's going to be any most we all are and it's a look at the humane anymore and the relationship yet animal kingdom. Oh and the last one is called The Cure. Healing the mind hitting voting. And he's going to be a world. Two of what is available medicine wide to heal online and nobody so every time big topic that we tried to make accessible research eventual people from different horizon from all over the world and hopefully visibility grids Hopes Education for everybody. Yes yes you know. You mentioned We the people and I wanted to tell you before this my ancestor Charles Coates. Worth Pinkney was actually one of the signers of the Constitution. And and he Worked with George Washington and Oh he was ambassador to France and he also when he started the first Bible Society in in America. So there's a lot more credits but I wanted to tell you just because when you talk about we the people. That's that's in my blood. It's about changing the subject from me myself and I too we we recruit yes. It's a very simple minded existence and that's what it's about is is getting back to we and not me like you said and I but we that's wonderful that's absolutely wonderful. So is there anything else? That you'd like to share about Fam- they were a thing. We're talking about many topics and I think people get it now. They have to. You know still busy to us and get up and go into the work the work meaning if you have a passion and you want to get it out there and then the rest of your life you do. It just takes. Yeah and that's what you're doing. And what an example that you're setting for your children troy you. 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Chris Harrison probably wont host the next season of The Bachelorette, Ramona Singer accidentally leaks her bank account details, Madison Reveals AROD made her sign an NDA.

Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

23:13 min | 4 months ago

Chris Harrison probably wont host the next season of The Bachelorette, Ramona Singer accidentally leaks her bank account details, Madison Reveals AROD made her sign an NDA.

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What's you know what people can do to elevate their work from home space. They can do eleven up their bedrooms. But it's kinda funny behind the scenes. I could tell the pandemic has kind of gotten to them. They were kind of interrupting each other in the middle of the interview. They were kind of finishing each other's sentences. He's a little frustrated. All good fun but it just reminded us that celebrities really gone through it. Just like me and you. Who's the bossy boots of the two of them. I'm guess nate. I think needs the boston booth. But i can also tell jeremiah fights back fighting today on this show. What type is it. It is tea. Time exclusive at the top of the show chris harrison is missing from the new bachelorette set so the new season of the bachelorette started pre production in new mexico. So the cast. Is there the crews that everybody is getting ready to shoot in quarantine market the moment. But there's one person missing police chris harrison so sources tell me basically at the moment the franchise without a host so nobody really knows what's going on chris behind the scenes is fighting to save his job. But it's not unusual for chris not to show up on the new set right away market worked in tv. A very longtime the magic of tv is what you actually see on your tv. As the final product isn't always the way it shot so often. Things are not shot in chronological order. Said we always begin the season with chris and the bachelor or the bachelorette talking him the limo pulls up and then all the ladies or gentlemen get tired. That is exactly how tv works. Explain mark right to exactly so things can be filmed out of order and then piece together and edit so. It's very possible that chris still could be on the show. We just won't know but the magic of tv. It might appear that. He's there from the very beginning but me and you know and now all the listeners know that topic as it's so interesting when i had a morning show with miss de we used to tape our episode on a thirst But we used to pretend to be. Live this podcast. We do every day. We don't cheat it like that but lots of tv shows. I think before. Hour of the today show when kathy lee and hoda together. I'm not sure if it happens with jenna but they also were tape there. Friday episode on a thursday. Never watch friday. Tv if you want breaking gossip because the day before something terrible happens would they have to go into updated maybe mark. What are some of the show is that you find just magical that the magic of tv. What are some of the other surprises with. Tv or so funny. So working at wendy williams. Same thing tape. Our our friday show on thursday afternoon. But what's so fun about that is the whole crew gets to go out to happy. Hour became we can let loose and not worry about the next day. Because we're all sleeping in and hung over night was the best night to go. If you want to hang out and get drunk with the wendy williams crew. You weren't going to see the tuesday wednesday and friday. Were probably hope with a high gave her for thursday thursday nights a fantastic night bags of chris harrison. So they're in new mexico. That's where they're shooting. We told you. I that bike astray. Han's name keeps coming up my abc sources tell me. His name is still at the top of the list. The problem is michael. Might not want to do it because it's not as lucrative. Can you believe that he adds more to servi. Might not want to do both. Everybody is ryan seacrest with ten jobs. Also not recant emmanuel shower who stepping into host the after the final rose ceremony. It's pretty much an audition mark. If he does a really good job you can get it. This is not unusual in tv. Often mark burnett is a big producer of survivor and shark tank and the voice he pops celebrities onto their shares. Onto those shows as a bit of an audition. Bethany was a shark shark tank and then she did such a good job. He gave her a production deal. So when you go on these shows as a guest it's often the addition. That's the truth is it is and you know rob bethany frankel salivating and behind the scenes. Try to probably try to on the show like any show shows. She's one of the first years as a book. You must have seen that all come across your see. We're sitting in your office at the wedding show. Everybody wants to be on that show. It's a great show with sometimes. You just like. I'll leave me alone i this. Please go away bethany any other thirsty people. The housewives generally the most thirsty. I think people who are the least famous are the most thirsty for attention. Yeah all the theresa. Jude is girls. They love being on tv. Oh so jennifer. Lopez a julia roberts were quite i. I don't think so okay. Progress to hop whole question of the day. Chris harrison probably won't be the host of the next season this season of the bachelorette it has already started. Pre production means. They're all getting ready. They're in quarantine. Do you want chris. Back yes or no Go vote on our twitter page. Naughty nicer up at facebook page not gossip and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Talk in thirsty mock. What are you working on very thirsty person. Ramona singer is added again this time she is accidentally quote unquote leaked bank account details instagram. Let me break down. This really weird story okay. So the real housewives. New york star ramona singer. The second time in just three months has accidentally posted a screenshot showing her bank account information on her instagram. The reality star moved quickly to delete the latest slip on tuesday night. But we have the receipts. Rob let me tell you. What's really good have. She has plenty so the leaked bank. Infos shows that her account is close to four hundred thousand dollars fool hundred in a and her chicken cow this is crazy so her transactions the water the more recent transactions include a seventy five hundred dollar deposit from ben group which is i'd influencer marketing campaign so we can assume we don't know for sure but we can assume she got paid some kind of fee to be an influence also got paid two hundred and fifty five dollars from the celebrity greeting app. Cameo i know right. Greetings cost one twenty five each. Who would a half greeting things are kinda slow over there for cameo and she also pocketed about five hundred dollars from amazon marketplace. That's still bookmark. She has a book so her books. Not terribly successful though. I take five hundred dollars for for a book. A cameos interesting so she charges one hundred and twenty five dollars but they take i think fifty percents so the reason that such an odd number two hundred and fifty five is they take their cut their commission. So that's why it really gets to such a such a very strange number. But that's not a lotta cameos. The big the big amount is almost four hundred thousand dollars in savings mark. Do you think she was showing off. Because that's an enormous amount of money that is in the money in our house or investments. That's just cash just just sitting around. Yeah this is the thing rob. I could give her the benefit of the doubt. If this was the first time because i can tell you this on. My facebook has posted things without my consent. Like i've accidentally dialed my facebook account. Posted pictures and things like screen shots and things like for personal for myself. And i was shocked but the thing is is this is the second time she's done this. In three months at the beginning of the pandemic she was out. Partying without a mask and the caribbean. She's kind of like desperate for attention during this time. And i think everyone's suffering and you know and having a hard time. The last thing we want to see is how much cash you having your. That's a really good point. Gosh if i accidentally posted my can't feel so sorry for me would be a really good idea. It certainly nowhere near that. You're quite secretive. Well mark i know you are for somebody. That does podcast. I see you on tv. And i've seen all your video when it comes to your private life. You are closed book. I had to fry doris your mother out of yo jonathan breath we got to know him slowly we talk very sporadically about your dating but your board a private person. Yes i would say so but especially about my bank account right like that's the last thing i want to publish my my personal social media accounts. What would you robin that about people's sex life or about their finances if you could find out one of the rich one well. I think it depends on how. I'm trying to get to know us trying to marry you. D you i to know all of it but admiring you from afar like ramona. I wanna hear about her sex life in her. You know in the world celebrity gossip will let you into a little secret hair. The covers that sell well. The stories that do well are always dating. It's always dating marriage divorce babies fares but the other subject that does really well is money. Well all curious about people's monday. My experience and i've met a lot of celebrities. They never have quite as much as you think they don't. They don't have. What do you know who laura wasser s. She's kim kardashian. Divorce attorney. She did jessica simpson. I think she's done jennifer. Lopez enormous major lower attorney. I spoke to her a couple of months ago. And i asked her. What was the biggest surprise in celebrity. Divorces this was before kim and conde announced they were splitting and she told me they never have as much money as you think. Ooh i love someone that has a lot of money. And there's no doubt about it is beyond say zehr is standing up for meghan markle. They met in two thousand and nineteen at the london premiere of the lion. King jr remember that. Mark the pictures of them together. Oh they're fabulous so that never met before they're not really friends. There was rumors at the time that they exchanged numbers that become best is that hasn't really happened beyond saying keeps a very close closed circle. She doesn't really hang out with people just because they are famous although everybody wants to hang out with her however after the interview with oprah and all the controversy fiancee did stand up for making and she wrote the following quote. Thank you for your courage and your leadership. We are all strengthened by. Y-you i gotta say after if you could pick somebody to be your embassador. Your character. Witness in court beyond. He's going to be at the top of the list. Oh yeah you have to remember this in the us. We don't have a queen per se but we have queen we have we have we have is our quiz show. It'd be signing off on you that it's good for me. It's good enough person that we know that you could potentially get to sign up for you if you needed help it. Suzanne somers for you. I think who could here is the most famous person that you could get to start up. Maybe just thirty seconds boxer could guy. Well i can tell you this. New perks now follows me on instagram and gm so perhaps he can do very cute. He's very very cute. No rob i would pick you. I think you could definitely speak to my character. We know each other well for a very long time. And you're quite the celebrity. I would not pick you. But i mean that in love sloppy highs wise to confirm what a mess. I m okay moving along. This story is wild. What's going on with iran. On my god a rod and the drama. It's continues in continues. So alex rodriguez made southern charms. Madison cry sign nba about their dm's according to his co-star shop. Rose i know okay so in a new interview with us weekly. Shep revealed that madison signed a nondisclosure agreement about her secret directed messages with a rod before the story came out of the season seven southern charm or union in february twenty twenty one. A rub ship said quote. I know there was like an nda signed which doesn't seem to mean anything anymore. Not worth the price of the paper. They're printed on. Ace okay so rob as bravo fans remember. Rumors were swirling in february twenty twenty one that a rod cheated after her southern co star. Craig conifer claimed at a reunion that she flew to miami to f- an unnamed married former major league baseball player. That fans believed was rodriguez. Rob me and you both are familiar with. Nda's working the celebrity entertainment world. We've certainly signed many when you're working with people when you're working from big media companies. I do think it's highly unusual that you'd have to sign an nda sending messages over instagram. Like what do you think so strange. So he allegedly slipped into her. Dm's they went back and forth lots of messages there that got leaked point and then his lawyers must have sent her a legal cease and desist which means stop immediately and then an nd. I am not she wa- she would sign it if they gave me a ton of cash would so if you give me lots and lots of money i'll shut up but i'm not sure why i would sign that if i was heard this is a fascinating story you mark. I signed very few nondisclosure agreements on asked all the time to sign them. And i always pretend i'll do it tomorrow and the way with it. I honestly even at jobs like i've started jams. Top chumps full of secrets. I meant to sign my life away. Or i'll do it tomorrow. Do a never had an only one. That i signed that i remember was angelina. Jolie and brad pitt. When they were selling the pictures of their baby member when they had affected being babies. I think it was the twins they were asking magazine that it has to go to private office and you couldn't. They wouldn't email you the pictures you had to go to the office and they showed you the pictures of the baby on the laptop and you have to bid a silent did like a writer number. Dan mission impossible. I loved it and you have to write a number down in an envelope and bid and all the fancy magazines. They all arrived in town cars and limos opposite like tel aviv. Six six six at cheap kassir shots. We bid millions. I think we'd be ten million mark. We lost we lost. But i had to sign an nda. Not that. i couldn't talk about it clearly. I am now when. I couldn't leak the pictures which is weird because i never had them to league. What was an nda that you had to sign of a work cuanto or one when you interviewed somebody. Oh yeah. i've signed so many for all my jobs i've ever worked at. I've always hunted. Nda and then. I can't think of anything else maybe interviews. I've done Although on the kind of person who wouldn't really league things anyway. It's not my tariff to get your drunk honestly i always take you to not know. We can't with the plague but once the pandemic come we'll be back out drinking what she'll drink again. Democracy drink vodka soda or block martine. and so. if. I don't you up to three or four you get a little giggly and a little bit more adorable but don't go sit bark. I know i know. I like to talk. S why won't i won't gossip terrible quickly before we go to break britney spears. His dad has a revelation about the conservator ship. So britney spears dad. His name is jamie spears. The lawyer is saying basically britney can end this. Never she wants the senate anytime britney once she can file and ask for the conservatorship to be terminated and over the last thirteen years one three thirteen years. She's never exercised that right. So britney has said before that. She doesn't want her to be the sole conservator ship. She wants him to share it with other people but she's never actually filed in thirteen years to say i don't want him to be my conservator. I completely forgot about mark. Yeah something about. This is very strange like the math. Not adding up for me. I didn't know what happens. Logistics of what's going on on the court. But i mean britney has clearly let the courts no she would like someone else to join so i'm not understanding fully why jimmy hasn't moved that along and helped find someone else. This isn't it. it is interesting to remember. And there's gonna be a new hearing coming up soon so we'll keep on top of that. We're going to take a quick break but we will be right back. 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Your health forward visit go forward dot com today to learn more. That's go forward dot com. Welcome back to the show with a friend monthly per hey mark. Let's get to the polls that the stigma okay. Elizabeth broke her silence. After oprah's bombshell interview. Was this the right move or should the palace have ignored it. While ninety four percents said the right move. You're glad queen said something market if you ignored it. Overview responded the. I think you had to respond to take. You ignored it. would you would look guilty. You're right you're hot to. You agree with the majority so do i. Hey don't forget to vote on. Today's poll twitter. Page not nice rob or a facebook pages naughty gossip and szilard to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Now it's time for a nicest of the. Oh the nicest kim kardashian. Aw what does she do before we came. Okay so kim kardashian shared a sweet snap with her eldest daughter. north west as the duo posed with coordinating looks and matching puppies. Now rob what. I think makes us picture so special as they were both wearing a pair of sneakers for connie's shoe line and what i love about this is. This isn't a grown adult acting like a grown adult. Jeez supporting her baby daddy and she's understanding that this is not about her or this is about the family and the family business. I think it's adorable points. You'll be kind of an. Im but i'll go with it. It feels more about the family business than Affection and love. But there you go. Meanwhile gossip today. He's changed all these numbers so she could not get in contact with him now came past to contact him through his security. She doesn't have his phone. I'm thinking about doing that. You mark my darby. And now i notice that i not not not piers. Morgan is doubling down on his criticism of meghan markle. So he's left his job. He might have been fired from his job. We don't know this vendetta against mecca. Markle is eating him alive. Pierce we get it. We know you don't like her. You've told us about it. You gotta find another story. A new chapter to the book. Ps i'm telling you meghan is gonna be fine your the one. I'm worried about when you keep hating somebody. That much only does his eat. You alive pierce. You're the naughtiest day. Hey mark now. It's time for a moment of rob rob rob. Hey the most foolish thing i ever did was believing that being smart was a personality trait something we were either born with or we would not. I didn't think i was born with. I actually thought being smart was a god given gift that was in your dna and wasn't in my dna. And then i realized the best definition the only definition of being smart for me is the willingness to try. Be smart try. I think i learned that from you in this moment. I totally agree. 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TSP119 - The Undefinable Spirit: Sohayla Smiths peace of the heart.

The Sill - Perspectives on Art

24:26 min | 1 year ago

TSP119 - The Undefinable Spirit: Sohayla Smiths peace of the heart.

"Suheil Smith is a singer songwriter. She and her band one best country recording with burned to the ground. In the two thousand. Eighteen clues Zine international music awards and reached the top of best country artists on our stage. I'M GONNA go with the ground. This thing called love. 'cause it's been around and I've just adding who a you're listening to this podcast with Peter J and Harry posner episode one hundred and nineteen the undefinable spirit so hairless. Smith's piece of the heart. Well welcome everyone to another edition of the undefinable. Spirit here at the sill podcast. Which by the way originates here in Orangeville Ontario Canada for our listeners. Around the world today we have a very special guest. We have so Halo Smith and boy list of what she is involved with is incredible. And I'm going to take a deep breath here and move through this list. Suheil Smith is a singer songwriter. She and her band one best country recording with burnt to the ground in the two thousand eighteen clues international music awards and reached the top of best country artists on our stage. Her Band was nominated for two thousand seventeen. Toronto Independent Music Award the song. Bridges was the roots Grand Prize winner on our stage as well as taking first place in Americana so halo is a self published author. She's published a book of poetry edited by the late. Nick beat called musings of a mad woman. She's a music teacher. She is a belly dancer. And we're going to go into that during the talk. She's a music therapist. She's done comedy performing professionally. She created a company called troop. Adore made up of local artists offering theater. Dinner Theatre murder mysteries etcetera. She founded something very special. Which were also gonNA talk about called Soup House which feeds people. She did a wonderful ted ex speech about soup house and we'll go into that later on random things that she loves. Birds New Instruments Tarot cards ethics and morals living plants piece of the heart. Good food and wine making welcome to the program so halo. Thank you very much. That's why grant introduction now the first and most obvious question is how the hell do you manage to juggle all of these activities and interests in your life given that you have a family a Cetera? Because I'm the boss of me. I decide what I do when I do it and when I don't do something so it just when it feels like it's the right time or do whatever I want to freelance. Life loves you. Much more flexibility. Is that what you're saying? Yeah like contract work except the lesson part. I teach regularly. So that's like an actual job. Is there anything that you do which you're particularly passionate about and we spend most of your time on if you could if I could? I would spend most of my time but I do spend most of my time on music but I would spend more of my time on music. Learning probably learning new instruments getting better at them and then music therapy more of that. What is your question? I'm GonNa give you a few piano guitar and the heart. I guess those are the three that I play the most. I also play fiddle and cello. I'm always impressed too. So he'll awin musician multi instrumentalist thinking of Edgar Winter or someone playing guitar on the one hand but also keyboard on the other and they're very different sort of mindsets and mind hand coordination. How do you jump from one to the other them? I think there's a learning curve for me. I started with piano ex. My parents and that sort of opened the door for literacy at least Music Literacy Guitar picked up on my own and from there you can take what you learn guitar Ukulele Banjo. Anything that's similar rate and I did violin junior high. So that opens the door for Violin Viola Cello. I also did flute in high school so I think once you know one. It's just a matter of learning curve of understanding the physical mechanics playing it and then it just kind of clicks or it doesn't so I picked up the Concertina and I'm terrible at it was terrible but I see you on facebook uploading live videos of you working on cello working on the harp etcetera. Where do you think this urge to constantly learning grow comes from? Is it something from your childhood? Did your parents support your artistic temperament. Like herranz really fostered it. But I think it comes from personal drive to be like there's no end to learning and there is no you reach the end and therefore you can stop trying right needed to keep working at it and I literally live that in my life. I think if you don't work at something you can't expect any better and better at it and if you feel like there's an area that you can improve on if you don't spend the time you're never gonNA get there and I post it live. It's probably torture for some people. I in my practice sessions live where I make hundreds of mistakes repeatedly so that people hopefully watch and that it's okay to make mistakes. It's okay to not be amazing. As soon as you pick something up it takes work. It takes dedication it takes patients and then the long term goal is maybe in a year. I might actually sound good. So that's unique that many people post videos of them not being really good neat. This what people are really understood in gay. Enjoy the process. Yeah they're always curious about how people get to where they get an overnight. It's just magical that you just pick it up and you're just a virtuoso on it and it's not always the case right so when I was looking on all these things including the tedtalk and this thing POPs and its belly dancing. So how do you also manage to include belly dancing to your creative endeavors? Where did that come from? Came from a repressed. Some self exploration as I've gotten older I realized I was harboring this leg thing. Apparently when I was young I was taken to a dance class but because I had bone problems in joint troubles dance instructor. Basically said don't bother bringing back to my parents and I really wanted to be a ballerina. So that kind of creeps back up. I kept telling myself. Oh you can't dance you can't dance. Don't worry about it right but I never really tried so I thought okay. Well let me think of a dance that would not be damaging to me physically and one that I would actually want to do that. Would make me feel because I don't generally like dress up fancier go anywhere fancy. I'm pretty simple person but I wanted something that made me feel like pretty special. And what have you and I in culturally affiliated sort of with belly dance by my father's side of the family which is Persi- EGYPTIAN. But we have our own similar like Persian classical dance which I incorporate into my chance. That's why and I want to stay healthy and in shape and physically fit. Were there any surprises in the process for you from doing this? Yeah I can dance. Your bones are good I am. I are okay with this type of dance. Yeah and I realized I can't announce starting to learn valley beginner very cool. You created several things in the area here up in Shelbourne where you're merely you've created a troop adore you created soup? How's that are? Both community oriented initiatives. I would say it. Can you talk about why community engagement is so important to you? All Its troubadour I found. There are a lot of people who are talented or budding talents. But don't have an outlet to put that to use and to grow and to be fostered community of like minded people that has changed over the years a little bit. There are other things for people to do. But we sort of seem to get more eclectic folk and are there skills sperry a little more from this general theater or general music and I found that working together. We were able to do pretty cool. Things was not a lot of money and as far as the soup has project is concerned that I love that project. It had to be a community effort because it's not possible for me to do everything. So the beauty of that is that the community went out and I said Hey. We're GONNA do this if you wanNA help feel free. And then the community came back and said yes. Yes yes yes we want to help. So that's really inspiring but I think that having people work together is something. That's not that common anymore. Everybody's kind of out for themselves right like out to make sure that they get what they need that they succeed. But people don't generally help others along the way and I've experienced even some of that myself to the tedtalk. Obviously what you're talking about now kind of flows into that by watched your talk on the true meaning of giving and this I quote you really resonated with me. You said there is no need for strings in a relationship. That is naturally and mutually symbiotic. It's not about money. It's not about things it's value based how has given changed your life or affected your work. It has changed my whole world because when I started that project I was was in a place where I was like. Or what about me? What about me and what am I gonNa do and I have nothing. I felt I had no value personally and nothing therefore worthy to give so by countering that feeling that thought at like negativity with this holiday you know you do and you can and you will and then having the community step in and help so strongly. It really changed the way I look at everything and when I have that urge to which I always had my whole life I always want to give and then I always feel like well. I can't or someone tells me no you can't you can't you can't do this you can't i. Don't listen to those people anymore and I don't listen to those thoughts anymore. If I feel that I want to give something or do something even if logically. It doesn't always make sense which is probably the but one day but even if it doesn't logically make sense all the time. I need to do it because I feel that. That's important and if it's important enough for me to think that it's important than I do it in electrical good about it. I don't ever look back and go. I shouldn't have done that. I don't think there's anything that I've given in the last at least few years and I've given a lot a lot. I don't even tell people half the things I do but when I give I I absolutely never regretted I feel absolutely a hundred percent. Good about it even if someone else goes. Oh that was a bad idea or down that it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks expressed in. Utah also expressed the importance of not expecting anything back yet. Absolute reciprocity away without expecting a burden. If you expect something back then you're not really getting from a place of wanting to give your giving from a place of wanting to exchange right And that's not getting at least in my opinion and there have been people trust me. I've received emails of people arguing that but I disagree and I'm okay with disagreeing. I don't feel that if you're giving with an expectation of something in return that you're truly giving I think giving is being something and letting it go and that's it and doing it with a good heart with good intention. It will which one hundred percent like this is for you in Step back some people will always feel burdened by the gifts in times. But that's a personal. I have trouble receiving gifts personally too so but on the other end of spectrum when I give. I have absolutely no expectations of not even a thank you needed because I choose to give brain so it's a conscious decision to let something go with. A good intentions were good energy or positive. Whatever you WANNA call it positive Mojo and that naturally roles us into the next question because among the many things that you told us that you love is the area of ethics and morals you talk about what fascinates you about those two aspects of human life. Yeah I find people interesting and I find behaviors and circumstances surrounding behaviors and behavior patterns really interesting and I find that certain. Things Change People in one circumstance. They will be very kind and very friendly in another circumstance. They won't usually when they feel threatened or if they harbor feelings like Chelsea or whatever like there's always negative emotions that make people become uglier in an interaction and I find that business in particular is an area that lacks oh ethics and morals broad spectrum. I'm GonNa say I'm going to be kind of bold in broad spectrum for the most part at least and that's part of why even tying back for a second why I will not registered as a charity. I will not register and business. It is not an official organization in any way because as soon as you make it business it becomes numbers becomes money. It becomes data. And that's not what it's about it's about people right and has to stay people but anyways you know what? I'm fully on board with you on that because I'm hosting in organizing the day of the Poets Festival in Orangeville and that's something that is not an organization either is just me doing this thing in and for the community and hoping that the community will see the value in it and support it. I don't want to have a turn into some big corporate sponsored event. Just changes the dynamic right. It is an changes. The thing that you have to do because if you have expectations imposed on you because someone said well I'm GonNa sponsor or I'm going to do this. That changes your responsibility in that relationship where you're not just now putting on the day of the poets. You're not putting on the day. The poets and keeping your sponsors happy you know and again it's not really giving it's business right We basically live in an economically driven world that can easily discourage artists from developing and growing their craft. Can you talk about? Can you talk about? What a young ernest has to overcome in order to create a career that is Somewhat sustainable well speaking of someone who is still twentysomething on years in. I think that they have to do the work. I the art I whether they're song writer or a painter. They have to work at it. You have to work at it if you want to build a following build a career in improved because you can't just do the same thing if there was a guy that painted like a red dot on a piece of white canvas and did that over and over again from his entire life he would not be amazing. But if that's one time statement that impresses people then you take that energy or that positive motion in you go forward with it and change and grow so one is always getting more education or more skilled in whatever. It is due to understand your industry which is hard. That's hard understanding whether it's a visual arts. Poetry were music understanding the industry that you are working or working to be in can be really complicated at least in my in my opinion when it comes to the music industry. I have no idea how it works anymore but I really appreciate the people in the industry who do step up and help us and give us airplay and things like that. I love them so I guess the best thing is to make the most of information so that you know what you're working with where you're working within and and just keep getting better and listen to feedback asked for constructive feedback and sometimes it's really hard to take. Negative feedback is constructive can still be negative. You can be like. Oh how could they say that right? But if you don't learn to digest that and then grow from it you stop and then beyond all that don't you have to kind of get Savvy in terms of marketing yourself and what you do. Oh yeah the Internet emotion. Yeah absolutely if you're if you're doing it all by yourself a lot you have to do your own website management and there's usually more than one Your own mark. Sharon sayles your own bookings your own management and and then if you're in the music industry than it's like videos earned their expenses that are accumulated for how long since. I was fifteen royd. So you've gone through a lot of the technical changes to having you. Yes Oh yeah I started. I I recorded by first album or tape yeah She went up seven Skylab studios. Which isn't even there anymore yet. I'm still in contact with the producer. Who did it though? He's awesome Julia and hope I said that rate does that still exist. It does and he actually kept. He kept a few of the masters and he still has the masters to it. I was kind of honored. He said there was something special. But it. But I remember being in that studio. It was the scariest experience of my life. At that point. I grew so much from it and now I love music. I love what I do. Success in the industry and whatever industry you're in is really just a mindset if you're not happy with what you get then work harder or try something different or change up a little bit but if you're happy with what you're receiving and you're happy with the direction that you're going you're going to have to maintain that positively even though there's a lot of negativity and a lot of debt when it comes to not receiving grants or not receiving funding or not having people buy your product. Has NOBODY CARES? Technology you think. Oh Yeah Yeah I do all of my own marketing I do. I mean I'm not very good at the videos but I do. I will get us all the websites I manage. It's a lot it's turned job. Yeah another of your loves is something you call quote piece of the heart and it sounds like something. We'd all love achieve. What does it mean for you to attain peace of the heart heart to explain finding that place where you can just find quiet to know yourself a little bit like really reflect inward and look at who are the life you've lived in the choices you've made with some compassion for yourself where you can go? Yeah you know what like you were growing? Then you might have made some mistakes but you're still good person. You're still doing all these great things. Let it go learning to find that inner peace with who you are in love yourself. I is important in order to be able to truly love and give back to everybody else. I find a lot of my inner peace moments are actually during music therapy sessions. I tell people all the time I get just as much out of it as everybody that I play for does and I mean I find my Solis in music absolutely for me. That's what it means. It means like learning to understand who you are. Because you're always changing and to appreciate who you are flaws and all Before we wrap today so he'll me a little bit more about music. Therapy harpist to therapeutic harpist for Dufferin County and I play for this. The residents at Duffer Oaks Shalva residents and there are a couple of other homes out of the area in Golf Fergus. And ORANGEVILLE that we've been to as well and I also play Christmas singing bowls which I recently started. I absolutely loved them. Air Incredible resonated with the people they are courts crystal bulls in scale of C that resonate at four hundred and thirty two hurts which is actually apparently I again. I haven't read all the scientific stuff on this. They resonate four hundred thirty two hertz frequency that most of ourselves resonate at And so when you are immersed the sound waves if feels like your whole body like part of you vibrates with it. And it's not shaking her convulsing. It's just an incredibly peaceful realignment almost and I find it really personally. Cleansing healing so. I find when I'm really struggling or having difficulty for whatever reason if I listened to the Bulls for I played ables. Claimed ables is much more powerful for me. At least I get up and I feel like I've literally been shaken almost but shaking it a good way. I'll just fell right out your tuning fork to your audience. That's exactly it Is there anything happening imminently? You'd like us to know about. Is there a website that people can go to to find out about What you're up to or your various initiatives and so on only upcoming events that I can think of are the day of the poets. Yes no and that's in. April is April calendar. Twenty five to be exact. If we'll type there we go so. That's actually the next event that. I will be at aside from that CD coming out. There's no date set for release but it's very soon with the end. I haven't taken it yet. How Okay. I'm literally doing the cover artwork now and we're sending it off for mastering and then back in and then after Preston once we have physical. Cd'S WE'RE GONNA do the digital release them. It's GONNA be awesome but we've worked a long hard time on his record so all original material and five more albums to make after this. It's going to be a long a long decade for me but If anybody wants to find anything they can go to so HALO DOT COM which is S. H. A. Y. L. A. Dot Co an attic. Thank you so it's been great. I strongly recommend to any listener to go to the talk and view that particular presentation. Because I think it really in capsulize what you're about who you are and what you're passionate about. Yeah and the other question you know that Ted Ted ex. I guess it's called. What was that experience like for you? How did they handle it? And did you enjoy the experience I did? I applied late and they message back and said Oh you know we'll let you know at this date will and that give you. The tools structure format the lessons access to platform. Ted Talks Platform. Y'All so you can learn how to do all this and you have multiple like check ins with your coaches. I had amazing coaches kristen. Tara and I learned a lot about how to put together an effective speech that delivers the point. That you want to deliver at the fat gets the important stuff the guts of it and then I got the opportunity to go out and do it and I was nervous. I made one mistake the day of the actual filming in the first five seconds. So it didn't matter you couldn't tell you I think you settle into quite wonderfully was just the only mistake. It was a gift cards to be given to someone who makes less than twenty thousand dollars but I had a number two hundred thousand in my head. I think people were confused. They were like why. Would you give grocery card to someone who makes two hundred thousand rain when you said that? Wow that's probably confuse it. In my head was like psychologist. Keep going keep going live audience. Yeah there's joke there's no stop and restart that yeah but it all works by the end of the day doesn't really matter how much somebody how much money somebody makes anyways if they need something they need something right so that's why it didn't matter and I was like it'll be fine. It's so we're all human. We all make mistakes and say well listen. Thank you and I'm looking forward to seeing you at the day of the poets will talk before then for sure and thank you again for your schering's headache. You do to take care all right. The sill podcast is a connecting media production available at Sill PODCAST DOT com.

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Video Games: LIVE!

Pants On Fire

30:32 min | 2 years ago

Video Games: LIVE!

"Two people claim to know everything about something, but only one knows anything. President Roosevelt warranty crevice tiny had two brains lucky kids live on ours, and go to school and flying cars, or at least they will want. Believe me, historian and astronaut or try to Laurean would. It's hard to say. The other is telling the truth. The why then you figure out who's. School Maplewood New Jersey? This is some fire. Now throws Deborah Goldstein come to pants on fire the game show where kids. She code a live. Dame over. I'm your host Deborah goals beside me, as our state of the art sound effects robot. Lisa. And. Thank you guys. Thank you, too much. And it is amazing. What an audience I am. I am just so amazing. I have the best sound effects that I prepared for you guys today. Like the sound of a cow, who went to the vending machine was disappointed that there were no fun. Jons. I'm sorry, that was Nick. That was my aunt sippy trying to play the oh. There we go. That's, that's much better much better. Yeah. I understand. You're the in studio audience, does much hope. But now for the first time, we actually have a live in studio audience, our amazing students in the fourth grade Jefferson elementary school. Actually, don't know if we need to hear today, Lisa. What I mean? They do a pretty good job. You hear all the sounds are making already. Right. So just because they're here, you don't need me anymore. Let's go to curb, like some computer. This is just like the dream, I had last night, you had a dream like this last night. Yeah. The dream, where I was recycled and replaced by a bunch of sticky fourth graders. You know, the first thing about being alive in studio audience. Do you even know how to make the sound of ducks cheering for other ducks playing soccer? Do they do? Yeah. I think they did that really, well, actually, well, sure fine. They did that. But do you not to make the sound of donkeys complaining about the price of canned goods? Exactly, what, what they would sound like yeah. I think I think they, they might they might be a little better at this than than you are. I don't mean this. I didn't wake up at the ridiculous. Our eleven o'clock in the morning to be insulted like this. I'm out. No. Don't be that way. No. Of course, we need you. We need you all the time at these kids can't take your place. I mean they're really good at what you're doing. Don't get me wrong. But they can't take your place. And isn't that right? You want to be part of the show. Yeah. Matter of fact. Dame of you fail. You. As a matter of fact, your value right now is to tell everyone how our game works, cool. So every week, we bring onto grownups. One is an expert and the other is a liar. And it's the job of a human child to help us figure out, who was too, because no one can spot a liar, better than a kid or in this case, a lot of kids. He tried to replace me back stands. What are we lying about today? Deborah day. We are lying about video games games played by electrically. Manipulating images produce a computer program on a television screen or other display screen. At least I bet you know, about video games, don't you? Absolutely. You know, before I was a sound effects robot. I actually used to be a video game. You you were a video game. The kids used to love video game. What were you calling the oatmeal, oatmeal, interesting? You'd be playing a bowl and then the computer would put oatmeal in it, and you would have to push the button, and then they would say. That's it. I mean, you sometimes you had to push to the another botnets boobs. Good. That I don't know if that's really exciting video game. Well, that's what everyone said. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. That's okay. It's a good thing. You're here with us now, doing much more exciting things than making oatmeal, and video games. I say YoM. Exactly. But you don't necessarily want to talk about oatmeal. We're actually going to talk about our contested, maybe who's going to represent the class. Must be exciting for them. Our human child contestants is a fourth grader, who's favorite constitutional amendment is the right to refuse to eat Lima beans. That's one of them I think. So her name is. I'm house word. No, you're gonna dream today. Just found myself. How you doing today? Yeah. Excellent. So tell us a little bit about yourself. What kind of things do you like to do for fun? I like to hang out with my friends and sing, and Judy mastic. Do you think while you do gymnastics? Sometimes really. This. Sounds like. Like you were there. That's crazy. And what do you love about Jefferson or any of the subjects here? What do you look forward to when you come? I love my teachers. Did they pay you to say that? No. You really honestly sincerely love and your friends. That's so nice to hear. And what about video games? Have you heard of these things called video game? They love. It was fun. You do you love oatmeal? Yeah. Have you heard of that game biggest gaming? Biggest gaming. Definitely not white kind of video games. Do you like to play? Well. I play the SIMS four SIMS for and slime rancher. Slime Rach, I don't know this calls you play a rancher and you have to raise lime up and then you become famous. Oh, do you. I do not care of the slimes. And there a lot of different types of slimes, very Sigler of time due to feed them. Yeah. You feed it like chicken and care is slimy. It's chicken. Yes. Oh, the sounds to me. She lying. Is there anything called slime rancher? Yeah. Just as I'm brother, Henry. Hold on. Let column. Nia is there is. Okay. Thanks. It sounds like. Chickens and slime berry, interesting. What will they think of next? I don't know too. Yeah. Exactly. Rendered to actually why I think I think you're well prepared of you, you know, a little bit about lying to you ever told a lie. Yes. Many times. Many do you ever get Carter? And you said you love your teachers. True. We could. And what about are you good at line sometimes, and are you good? At telling when other people are lying. Not really know this might be a very challenging game for you. But good for you. That you've got your whole class to kinda help you out too. Our first expert, the l leave of it. Please introduce yourself time each. My name is the liebowitz and I am a fester of video games. Research and teach about video games in universities. Say more about that. Okay. And our next expert is Sharon, Mark. Sharon, you introduce your. I mean, I to meet you, my name is Sharon and I write music for video games. So I all those sounds that bleep in, bloop, and exactly like you, you guys those sounds were making. We incorporate that and enhance video games with music. There is no lag in serving up that sound file was there. Lisa. Hi have the reflexes an Armadillo Armadillo, that's actually armadillos gamers, who plays lowly in case you didn't know? I think you mean that, that you're actually quick to respond like you did with that found filed that you just play to tell us what time it is. I'm amazing in perfect and no one dislikes me. I mean that's it's time. That's right. We put our experts on the hot seat while they answer questions about video games visa should we put on the HUD seat? I thought a lot about. I would like to put the Il- legal okay on the hot seat. I because isn't this'll are L L and news. The first two letters of Lama and Llamas are what I eat. The okay it's, it's a reason in any event. That was moving the one that I took a sip really good. I thought that I it was just chicken. It's mostly Lama. Oh, gosh. I don't think I don't think I ever want that one again. Oh, disgusting. All right. So we're putting on. Do you have a couple of questions? Ready? I me-. Yeah. Okay, cool. How video games affects the way we learn in study. Oh, excellent question. First of all, I'd like to note that, unlike my fellow expert, my notes are not in paper there on machinery. Experts us. So in my line of work studying the way video games affect the way we learn. And perceive, the world is actually a very big part of what we do. For example, you may think that anytime you play the game. What do your parents tell you stop playing oatmeal, the famous stop wasting your time right about it? Turns out that playing video games is actually a very good distraction for your brain because it takes you out of the kind of continuous stressful work that you do when you study say math and actually allows your brain to kind of make different sort of connections by figuring out things in challenges in puzzles, and really kind of builds up your cognitive system, which is a fancy way of saying, building up your brain to sink better. I didn't eat mostly professor. I didn't understand what. Like that. I will ask Sharon a question. What's your favorite video game? My favorite video game. I have to hearken back to my, my very first time with video game was back in the eighties. So my fan, I come from a really big family, and we couldn't afford to buy an Atari twenty six hundred Atari twenty six hundred. And so my parents said, to us, if you want to get this Atari, you have to save up bottles, and cans, which, you know, are worth my bills and an Atari did seved eighty dollars with bottles and cans and bought an Atari twenty six hundred and my most favorite game was pacman and remains my most favorite to this day. Yeah. It's a classic and the inventor of, of pacman you. He actually invented that game while eating a slice of pizza. He was eating pizza and took out a slice and looked at the remainder. Of the pie and then the idea for pacman came to him. So pretty cool factor. So you're saying kids should eat a lot of a lot of. Design the next most popular video game in the world. Everybody pizza. Very cool. I have a question for Lille Lille. What, what do you do all day? My mother asks me, I video games. I really do. I sit and I play a lot of video games. And I watch other people play video games. And I do. No, I watched people in real life in laboratories that look like a very fancy classroom, or with a lot of machinery and I wash people play video games. And then I try to answer all kinds of questions, like, for example, do different things happen to you. If you play games for an hour as opposed to for three hours, do you remember a lot of the plot of the game that you played or you just remember the feeling and the action of it? How are your eyes moving are the washing the screen at all? Or is it just your sums going on at a medically? And if we understand the answers to these questions, we could make better video games. And we can make video games that help us do all sorts of things like learn like train for all kinds of tasks. And that's kind of important cool. Did you that all day long? That's pretty cool. Yeah. Do you also want to ask Sharon a similar question? What do you do what we do? Well. My job is, is a little bit different than my other expert here. I spend a lot of time at a piano. Yeah. And then recording demos for. And what a demo is, is if I'm testing. If say I need battle music for out of the. Tackling exactly in my task is to compose battle music for certain scene of video game that I've been assigned. Well, I will go through five ten fifteen different versions of what will become the battle music that will be in the video game. But I do bunch of demos, and what those are recordings that are not finished yet. But where I will be playing a certain melody, and then maybe I'll change it and make it into a minor key or L. Let's go back to a major key here, and then I'll submit it, and then that goes under review, and then they send it back to me and say measures, fourteen through sixteen need an adjustment. I think you need to set the pace, make it more of a crescendo here into a day, crescendo. So it's a little bit more llegado at the end. So. You have to know another language. Do you have to learn talion languages because music that's? Note. So my work is done mainly by myself, and then submitting it on a computer, and then getting notes, and then taking rewrites, and it's a very long painstaking process. But I love it for Lille. Our video games made fit games used to be made pretty simply it was just one person sitting at home and programming something. And computer of you've, you may know this, but video games actually didn't use to have any pictures at all. They were just text when we were going up in the eighties video games were just adventures in which computer will say to you, you have arrived at the castle. Why do you wanna do all I'd like to go in? Hey, what's. D of Lama. About castle gone. So that used to be pretty easy. Now video games are made by teams of tens and sometimes hundreds and sometimes thousands of programmers at each do different things, some are just responsible for creating really gnarly graphic. So it looks really good. Some make beautiful music for video games. Other is right. The kind of story in the adventure of the kind of plot like in a movie and others. Write the code, she's the actual computer language. Let's the computer interpret what the game would look like on your screen. So right now, it will take, maybe something like between a year and a half and four years. And maybe four hundred people to make video game, and some of them could cost up to one hundred million dollars to make a lot of money. What if one of the people making the game has to go to the bathroom? They're not allowed. Oh man. That's they have robots for that. Oh my God, I wanna be a bathroom. It was right. That's what I heard. That's. I have a question for Sharon to, like sports video games. I do like sports video games. I would say my favorite would be. I love those fica the fee for games, especially fica eighteen I think the music in it, this year is fantastic, and all the music in the fica games are pop songs that they get the rights to and, and they compose overall score in the theme of of the game. So I would say fica so they're not writing the music themselves not taking other people's music. They are. But but they get paid a pretty penny. So do they have to know anything about music? Well, I mean, the designers of the game wanna create themes in. So if you if anyone here is played any of those fee or Matt, in the music in those games is it's exciting. It's heart racing. So that goes along with playing the sport. So it's almost like. Your own theme song playing while you're scoring that touchdown. So it's it, it helps enhance the playing of the game which is our goal as composers, and as musicians is to enhance the game that the people are playing. I have a question for Lille. What is your favorite video game console recevered video game console of all time is the Fintan stick, Nintendo GameCube, which had an amazing game on it called JAMES BOND GoldenEye, which remains I think the greatest action video game ever made, I don't know. Controversial knows cool. Gold, I couldn't see and he bumped into stuff because his eyes are made out of gold. It really was the first time that action sort of, like first person shooters really got sophisticated about the scenery about the action about characters really felt like you were in a movie and video games, really didn't do that before before that they were kind of cartoonish and silly. And this really made you feel like you're totally immersed in the real world. Hate the real world. I don't want that me too, buddy. You're curious kids, put you on the hot seat. Peppering you with tough questions. Like what are cars made of? 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It's that time in the show and Lisa helps find the bugs in our experts programming agitate. Time Android generating day, analyze the X Lisa will now generate a question for me to ask both of our experts and Lisa, can you, please generate that agitate question for Ireland? Wait, wait. Very long. You want to bounce right? We got later on more of thing. And I don't I'm both sides container of cute. Well how about if you try to print out the agitate question? Instead, they seem to like the thing, I don't know. That it I don't know against the all comes out of my butt. Okay. Ready and going the question that Lisa has generated and you will ask both experts this question. Why robots better than humans at video games? A really good question. Yes. She's got good question. I see I see. All right. So which expert would like to take on that question. I I'll take it robots are specialized computers. Right, so special in most systems are based on a central processing unit a CPU that can be programmed using code like Java or C. Plus, plus, so when you have a mistake in code, you can go back and correct it. So there's always a human who is ultimately programming the robot. I mean, I'm sorry to offend Lisa. But. Somebody. Helping you along. So you always have the aid of a human with a robot. I don't behind every good robot. No. That's all. I'm amazing. You are you are thanks to agree with Lisa. And with my fellow ex. Yeah. Also butts are better at least heretical at video games because video games, are all about making choices and those choices are built into what we call algorithms, which are fancy computer language decision. Trees person comes into a quarter where does he turn a person sees a monster? Do we go left? Do we go right? I would pee myself. I'm sorry. I don't blame you at eight monsters, but now because of the CPA or the central processing unit and my fellow expert mentioned, humans can only make very few decisions at a given time. Right. If you think about what to have for dinner you like, oh my God, it's chicken or steak, or pasta rice, your mind, kind of goes crazy computers. Robots could look at thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands, maybe even millions of options depending. How good the computer is real and say, what the best course of action would be. So if a computer looked at the code of the video game, they could say, well, that's the best course of action. They could solve a game that would take a human being hours, maybe even days probably in minutes. I think he's awesome. We should hang out sometime. Okay. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's the expert. I'm just saying just like him because he's pandering. Even if he's lying. I still like, okay, fine. You can hang out later. You can have Llamas slushy together so Lucia. Right. Okay. Coupons for them by the word shirts, you, but it is decision time. So as acting avatar for the class, I me who do you think is our liar, liar fire? I don't know. You don't know. A lot of people in the audience are pointing guess, go with your guy, pointing to anyone ever teach you not to point. Oh room boarding. People pointing at you. They're boarding. Okay. So one person's pointing over there, the other pointing over their kid thinks it's me your right? All right. If you think that Sharon is our liar, liar, pants on fire. Clap, your hands. If you think Leo is our liar, liar, pants on fire. Clap, your hands. Yeah, I don't know. Could you tell what the majority agree? Maybe. You're no it's going to be a toss. L. Save radi. Okay. Do agree with everyone Sharon who thinks Sharon another liar. So are you guessing that because the because of the class applause or because something in, in your gut tells you that Sharon for life because of because of them, okay, we've rusher you people, you did a group think, and we and you agree or you really just have no idea. Thank you agree. Because right. Because it's hard to go against the masses, isn't it? Yeah. Okay. Cool. Can we have a drum roll, please? Very good. Actual real video games expert. Please let us know who you are. And I'm the videogame professor. Is our video games expert, any professor, he professes about video games. That was fantastic. Good job, you guys well done. I me. So let me let me know were there any lies that you heard sharing speak to our class that you would like to let our class know about other than the Atari costing eighty dollars. I think Sharon was remarkably well prepare. For those of you who guessed the thought that Sharon was the expert. She did pretty well. We're there lies that you told the fives, the Atari lies. Yes. Well, I mean there were a couple of peppered lies in there. What I studied, I, I know nothing about music composition. Yeah. I know. And you'll games amulet oh my goodness. I don't I don't even know how, how video games are made. So those, those turn lab job. I always thought that that was the coffee. So. So you don't even know the kind of program eight Salil do people use Java to make video game. Not not that often several elements of. Okay about that in the late nineties nine. That's why one recycling terms. Right. Very good. Wow. I was I didn't know I didn't know what was going on at all. And you did give yourself a round that was the extra. Actually authorised today to thank you to our contestant. I ne- into the Jefferson fourth grade class or. For P B yielded excellent questions. And thank you to our expert in liar. The Allen, Sharon into our sound effects about Lisa. 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This real estate unicorn wants to conquer the world

Yahoo Finance Presents

24:36 min | 2 years ago

This real estate unicorn wants to conquer the world

"Welcome to the finance presents podcast. I'm Alexis Christopher's recent reports, confirm what we suspected that the ones red hot housing market is indeed cooling, but that is not stopping compass. The tech real estate company, that's growing and leaps and bounds. And joining me today on the podcast is compasses, founder and CEO. Robert ref kin welcome. Really pleasure. Be here. Thank you so much for inviting me now talk to us first off because I think people want to know what you think about the state of the real estate industry. You've got seven thousand agents all across the country. Right. You're in eighty three cities Eighty-three cities across nineteen markets in what we're hearing from agents is that the market is starting to soften, and that's largely driven by two things. One the increase in the interest rate the fed increase rates three times of this year thirty or fixes now four point seven percent. But Secondly, the stock the stock market. It is starting to see increase volatility that if affects consumer confidence. Yeah, I mean consumer confidence right now as we speak here in this podcast is about an eighteen year high. Are you expecting that to start to pull back a little bit? I mean, the we've seen the stock market has really been over the last couple of weeks. And so if it continues which today it's gone up and knock on wood. But if it continues to to suffer the the number one driver of consumers convent is always a stock market and that will impact real estate prices in buyers. So when when do you think this may turn to actually be a buyer's market is although rates have have risen? Yeah. I I think it's important for us all to recognize that increase rates can be a buyer's best friend because they create lower prices. They create more inventory in more negotiating leverage between the buyer in the ultimate the seller. And when you look at the environment that we're in right now, there's all some very strong positives. You have. Have record low job vacancies, you have record wages, and then you have Lineas entering their prime buying season into this could be very interesting time for buyers who do you see driving the sales right now? I've seen reports where they say it is the millennials is that what you're seeing. We we're we're seeing that it's primarily millennials. They're they're on the positive. The unique the difference versus you know, five years ago that said one of the impacts on the negative side that we're seeing is that forty five percent of buyers are people that are moving from one mortgage to another mortgage. It's a it's a second home. In those buyers now with an increased mortgage rates are starting to question, whether or not they want to buy a home, and so we there's a survey out there that says a eleven in the people that were going to buy no longer want to because the increased cost of the existing mortgage. Okay. That makes sense. Are folks scared that maybe they'll be underwater on their on their on the home. They have now. Or is it more that, you know, unless I'm really pushed to move. There's really not a compelling reason for me to change homes at this point, it they're very few markets where people are underwater prices have gone up pretty consistently for the last eight years this. It's more about the cost of financing the home, which is becoming the barrier. What about rentals you deal with both rentals and purchases purchase at what what where's your business? Where are you doing more business there? In New York City one we've seen over eight hundred price drops in the last month in New York City on the sale side. But we are seeing more people that were considering buying be seeing that choosing often into rentals in New York than we have at any time that I've been in real estate, which is now six years, and is that because they're waiting. They are confident prices are going to drop more. They're cautiously optimistic prices are going to drop them. What do you think about that? I mean, we saw the latest report from SNP case Schiller showed that prices did rise. But not as as much as they have been in the past. Do you think that at some point? We're just gonna see prices dropped five maybe even ten percent. And when might that happen? We'll it's really important to know that real estate is local. There's only one time last hundred years where prices dropped consistently across all markets, and that was two thousand eight the reason why it's local as there's a relationship between the they're consistent relationships there. That'd be the stock market and consumer confidence that it'd be interest rates. But what's unique is jobs? The Joe influx of jobs influx population. The prices the wages in that market. And so what's going to happen in markets? Like San Francisco where there's a lot of, you know, great dynamics with John population versus a market, which maybe losing jobs and losing people will be completely different. Do you think that we need to worry at all about a housing recession? No, no, no. No. No, no. That's I'm glad you asked that question. Unlike two thousand eight there are a lot more standards in place today than there were as example, the the loan to value ratio and amount of equity cushion that buyers are forced to have in their home is much much stronger than it wasn't two thousand eight I want to focus zero in now on compass it self so you've raised very impressive amount of money since the. Company was founded in two thousand twelve you've raised one point two billion dollars. Softbank is one of your largest if not your largest investor your company's now valued at four point four billion dollars. First off did you ever think he would be a CEO of a company worth that much? No, I didn't. I we started off as a rental company in New York. What we did really well as we were able to raise a lot of money and hire really great people who were able to identify the opportunities in this space across geographies across technologies cross sales and rentals, and there's a lot of opportunity this space would really surprise me. And again, I didn't appreciate it as much when we founded the company six years ago is real estate is the largest segment of the global economy is two hundred sixteen trillion dollars of assets. There's never a moment that you see. You don't see real estate land residential commercial touches everything that we do in our personal lives in in our work in while we well technology has improved. How we buy goods. It is improved. How we transportation it's improved. How we communicate with our friends and family. It has not improved real estate. And there will be a great technology that improves the way that the real estate process works, and we hope to be that talk to us a little bit about the technology offer your agents, I take it. It is you need to you. It's patented technology, the proprietary technology and give us an example of what your agents can do that perhaps agents at other firms cannot exactly so they're the average agent is country. Now, there's two million of them right now, we have seven thousand compass to seven thousand business owners rely on us every day. I I consider that a very big responsibility. Because because it's not just them is them and their clients on one side in this them and their families on another. And so we do a compass really matters it when you think about the implications for you know, for their clients in their family. The these agents the average in the country spent eighty nine percent of their time doing non-core administrative in arts and crafts tasks because they have to log into over ten companies to their job. They're four hundred software providers. The sell to agents every day there are eight hundred molasses in the country. They're eighty six thousand brokerage firms in the country that are serving agents. So the industry does work it just doesn't work together because everything's in different place. The innovation of compass. Really most simply stated is integration in the same way. Apple the first iphone wasn't new. There's nothing new. There was new was that their things they're together for the first time the digital photo, which Kodak by the way, created, you know, the the the tablet which Microsoft created. Now, it's your keys at your wallet. And so on integration machine. The an example of technology that we have is say his marketing center. If I were going to sell your home, I would need to do to create a brochure for the open house of new crap postcards to male. I would need to create a digital newsletter Email to my sphere of influence input. Put on my social media. Those four things today happened on completely different sites of this four hundred hundred providers, and I would have to log in. If we're not logging for different times upload the photos, four different times. Upload the copy for they take four hours at compass. It's only one logging because the same system and it can take thirty minutes. All those together. There's been a lot of talk about technology in the in the real estate space being a big disruptor to the point where we are questioning the value of the human agent. Do you think that at some point in the future real estate agents will not exist? They won't be part of the process of buying and selling a home. I believe that technology can replace a trend. Action. Let's say a stockbroker, but I don't believe in replace a process to sell a home. There are over fifty things that has to adult it's much more complicated than it. Looks outside is not just opening doors. That said I do believe the brokerage firm is at massive risk were in a blockbuster versus Netflix moment for the brokerage firm. The judicial brokerage firm as we know it. I don't think we'll survive, and that's because they're really the middleman. So people think the ages the middleman, but they're not the middleman is the brokerage firm that is between the agent and the customer in that is charging more value than it's providing they didn't create these four hundred providers. They're just outsourcing them and give them to agents is becoming more of a landlord tenant relationship between the brokerage firm in agent and less in of what an agent does in in a day. They're using less and less than a brokerage firm and more and more things outside of the brokerage firm. So when you say tradit-. Brokerage firm. Are you talking about the elements Corcoran's of the world? I don't speak about other companies by name. But yeah, the traditional brokerage firm is is where agent hangs there hangs their license. And in some cases, where they'll where they'll use the office space, but. Thirty years ago. Customers would go to the brokerage firm knock on the door and say, can you give me an agent that world's gone? Now agents are marking themselves with social media with digital newsletters with mailers people people can find the indirectly. They don't need to go to the brokerage firm to find out who the right ages in by a very powerful thing. My mom's been age in my entire life ten years and life insurance thirty is in real estate. She's an entrepreneur she's agent at compass today, she seventy three years old on work in Upper West side office. And by the way, I love her. I don't have the broker firm. I care about her people like her and their families the brokerage firm. That's just a firm. It's not a person relationship. There's not the relationship is not the person doing the work, right? My mom did all the work. I heard the work as a her knock on doors gets not every single one of them. And then go to eleven so you're saying they should be rewarded. They shouldn't they should be supported first and foremost, they should have the same support in some -plicitly in their work life that they get in their personal life, right and concept is it is nice concept. I think maybe taking a step back one of the issues that we all have everyone in work is the best engineers in the world like consumers more than like business. People say build better products for more. They drive towards the consumer more than the the business, folks. I think Comey's like Uber lifts able to benefit because like both sides the market, and you had to go through the driver to create a better consumer experience. And I think we're benefiting from that as well. Because the world starting to realize that agents aren't going away. And the best way to create a happy consumer experiences to create a happy agent. You have a background in banking. I know you came from Goldman Sachs. So how did you fall into real estate? Yes. Oh, one like, I mentioned in moms been a real estate agent. I was actually real estate agent honor team for a while. And really the way it happened is my co hunters Oriole loan. He sold one company, Google and other company Twitter is one of the best technologies out there. And I met him when I was working the White House at some conference called academy of achievement and we after working for Gary Cohn at no, no, I I worked in the White House as a White House fellow in two thousand five hundred six then I went to Goldman for six years five in private equity in a year and a half as chief of staff to the president of the company on and Gary Cohn and. I met with ory after he sold his second come into Twitter as this guy's magician. Anybody I think these a injuries almost like sores? Oh to those of us who don't know. Yes. Yeah. And as it lets you and I come together in. Let's let's create a company. In what he said is. And I had a lot of the business folks from places like McKinsey or Goldman, and he could hire the great engineers. And they said that it'd be interesting, but he said only do it. If we think of a problem that touches everybody in the where there's not a lot to -nology he didn't want to compete against Google Amazon, Apple Facebook, I said touch as be type, but as touch everyone, and as we talked about it he said real estate, everyone has to find a home. And there are none of the the big companies are in that space. And so that that's how so in a way that that was the idea that was opportunity, and it became to be more and more than we even realized and fast forward six years. You're worth four point four billion dollars compasses what about an exit strategy for your investors. We are now a unicorn plans to PO, and what might that timeline. Look like. We don't have. So I don't wake up in the morning thinking about I think about how do we create more value to agents? Whoever creates the most value to agents in this country will be the platform darken ten Google's ten Amazon's aren't pretend real estate platforms. There's going to be one. And a we are, you know, we are a mission to provide as much to them as possible technology support marketing culture philanthropy in everything away. That's it. In terms of PEO I would expect it to be somewhere in that come to for your timeframe. And are you profitable yet? So in our non new markets like many launch a new market, you're not profit because you're you're you're expanding so fast with office and support before the Edens come on and bring revenue, but in the the the markets that were previously launched we're profit the majority of them. You also have a program at allows your agents to own a stake in the company very much the way a company would offer stock options tell us. That is so we call the agent equity program and in the same way, if you're an adviser at a law firm or investment Bank, you get equity company we want our agents to get equi in the company, and they can reduce their commissions that they make and get a Porsche amount of equity in the company, and we do that because we want them to feel like owners into be owners. And so in the company does well, we want them to realize the benefits of that. In almost everything. I do I asked myself if that were my mom as agent. How would I want them to be treated, and I would want them to benefit from the success of the company? Now that said, my mom doesn't have a conflict of interest. Right. But that that's the way that's the way I think about making decisions, compass, you know, you have to be aware of of your critics out there, and there are many for various reasons, and with this program in particular, some critics have said, you know, they're using their employees to actually help them IPO. What do you say to those products? I think almost every company that goes public only goes public because the employees in the company did great things to make them go public. And so I think our employees and our agents again, I want incentivize them in every way possible to make this company great into make themselves. Great because if they're great in the company's great role. Great. And and so I know we have a lot of critics. I I'm not critical them. And I understand the position they're in. I think a lot of empathy for, you know, being an industry where where words very hard to adapt and improve Kodak was a world class brand in the Dow Jones it created it'll photo, but just into anything with it does it industry with a lot of great ideas. Again, eight six thousand brokerage firms the four hundred providers they're doing niche things, but they're not doing together in eight one isn't want the best of all that in one place. They. Zurve the best of all that in one place, and we're gonna we're gonna do that for them. You've said that your goal is to reach twenty percent market share in twenty cities by the year. Twenty twenty we've seen a lot of your growth, come through acquisitions. You're also poaching top talent at other places. Some folks say you do that a little too aggressively for their taste, but is that going to be the growth strategy going forward because you have the deep enough pockets to do that for quite some time in over four. We have nine hundred million dollars of cash now zero debt and very enviable. Be in particularly as we could go into downturn. Limited could be very great place to be look, I think the downturn. Warren Buffett said when the tide goes down, see not wearing any pants, and I think in his innocent is a lot of people that are wearing any comes in our wearing pants, but the majority of our growth will still has in the past and will continue to come from hiring agents individually, and then, but we're gonna start doing increasing amount of acquisitions were also starting to shift our focus from just growing compass to really double downing on growing agents in. So we're taking a big pocket of money yet to be announced how much that is in investing it in our ages ago, their business examples would be. The agent betterman fund where we give them interest free loans to grow their business in any way. They want agents are all small business owners. They could be a five million dollar team. That's a business. Sure. They can't go to Bank to get alone. If they did. It'd be very rates we give it to them interest free where they can use that to get leads more coaching. They can hire more people on their team in into other innovative things that we're seeing we also launched compass concierge. So now every agent can go to their clients in say the market's softer today than it was a year ago is more important prepare your home with staging decluttering landscaping a modest cosmetic repair today than it was a year ago. We can give you as a client. There's two options guide their pay the forty thousand dollars out of your Bank count or compass. The company will give an what will pay for that. And then get pay back with the proceeds is every agent can do that those are things. Those are two examples of things will really help them grow their. Business and you're gonna so you're moving beyond traditional real estate. It's it doesn't end. Once the the the home is sold and the closing happens. Really? Glad you ask that. So the vision of compass is a great harmony and simplicity in the real estate process. Not just to get a transaction. But the entire thing right now, your consumer you have to buy a home using these different systems, and then the application or find home and through these systems you apply for the home on this system. The mortgage is on that system, title escrow system moving services over there painter over there. We wanna put every real estate service in every real estate service provider on one single platform, whether they're ours are not it doesn't matter. But they'll all be on one platform into the consumer can finally do everything in one place ain't that will get rid of the friction in the fragmentation the process, that's really the enemy. The reason why no one loves the way things work in real estate. Like they do in with companies like Amazon Google or or apple is because there's so much friction in. That's the enemy that we're getting rid of too many cooks in the kitchen kitchen the program, you were just talking about where you're giving you'd be able to give your agents some monetary support interest free sounds wonderful. Are there any I don't wanna call them strings attached? But we do they would that. Would they agree to stay with your firm for certain amount of time because you do run the risk of folk saying great taking that money doing all these cool things and then leaving compass so the question, and that's was different genus in one of the many things. Brooks firm. I am thriving Lee excitingly so optimisically ready to take that risk say this way. The remember the. Our agents because we serve at him. They said that they believe that they'd be able to double their listings double their business with commerce concierge giving their clients ability to do the staging and in decluttering up front because it's such a competitive advantage right to in the listing presentation how much should I be comfortable to lose? Happy to lose to have every agent company w business ten million twenty thirty. I love it change everything we we would almost instantly twins Mark sharing the toy cities overnight. If we did that if they talk to me about how many more agents you wanna bring on over the next few years. So we're not as is not about agents. It's really about listings, and you don't wanna hire. You don't wanna be Comey? This hires anybody. So we don't hire people with less than two experience. Everyone that we hire has to be vetted by three agents in the company and be viewed as likable collaborative experience fully committed, but we do want to the market share of listings and transactions because that makes you the the platform where people are operating their business on and with that as you mentioned, we won't have twenty percent, Mark. Sharon, the top twenty cities by twenty twenty. Where do you see real estate the real estate industry in five years? So if if there is a downturn like as a meaningful one, I think the majority of brokerage firms in this country will be there five years from now, and you're gonna see two things one people just exiting in Racine's that now by the way in into massive levels of consolidation. People trying to come together to survive. And again, the reason why that is is agents are when my mom started the business splits where fifty fifty for every dollar in agent made they gave two percent of the brokerage firm now splits in some markets are ninety even like low nineties, you know, you take the cost of office space support agent. The math doesn't work and. Agents are wanting to pay brokers firms less and less as time goes on because they're using more and more of their overall day more and more things they use aren't the brokerage firms. They're seeing for the money, I'm paying you. Are you giving me the fortunate evalu- in that they don't like the answer? Right. All right. Robert ref can thanks for bringing your unique perspective to the real estate industry and best of luck with compass. Thank you. Thanks for listening to the finance presents podcast. Be sure to rate review and share this podcast and remember to subscribe. So you never miss an episode.

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#243:  Mark Whitman rebooks Sting vs. Hulk Hogan at Starrcade 97

The Double Dropkick Show

27:24 min | 3 years ago

#243: Mark Whitman rebooks Sting vs. Hulk Hogan at Starrcade 97

"Yellow again ever gonna lay out with championship wrestling when another big week joyless right now. Hey. Hey, welcome to the double dropkick show. I'm he's mulligan. And I'm Mark thanks for listening to our the little podcast that could it's a wrestling podcast. We talk about the wrestling you grew up with the wrestling need to watch. Now and stuff is new and DisneyWorld is we did on one of our previous episodes. Hey, what did you take his second? Go to double drop kick dot com at the top of the page. There's all the different ways to subscribe to this. Listen, I I'm a giving person. I'd hate for you to miss episode. If you subscribe on apple podcast or Google play or any of your favorite podcast apps. You can subscribe the RSS feed which would come right to Email. Listen. I'd hate for you to miss out on something that could change your life. And so yeah, I want to encourage you to do that. Also. 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Speaking speaking, groggy, hanging out, we were talking over lunch. Just I've been reading a lot of wrestling books, and you were reading something the other day and with Bischoff and Russo and everybody's doing their podcast. Now, a lot of talk about WCW these days. You mentioned probably. The biggest match in WCW history. One of the greatest builds in history. He's the one with the Bill. The biggest don't know may be go Bergen HOGAN. Yeah. I don't know that's arguable in debatable. But but you wanted to talk about you had some thoughts on sting HOGAN stark aid ninety seven which for me. Yes. I don't know. I don't taking the business and when this happened, and so and so lift and all the effects that those four me. Yeah. That is the night. That I started to lose interest in that company. Yeah. Because I thought. That is one of the best. Logical will told story. Yes. That I ever seen interested, and it was such a great slow-burn. Yes. It was was this hot shot deal where we gotta get right to the big thing. Yeah. I year and a half they built up. Yes. Hogan and sting goes through this complete transformation. Right from the surfer guy to this. Moody, dude, hangs around up in the up in the rafters, and he's got the vulture. And it was just it was an incredible story in hulk HOGAN played the role of the he'll incredibly throughout the whole thing. Who's going to stop him? He's on he's mad with power. And now he's got a Bischoff. And he's got hauling Nash to be as muscle who's going to stop this guy. And staying was the guy was hope of of that company. And it was one of the best laid out story. That I ever me personally. I don't you know for me. I really enjoyed that story. Yeah. When you go back, then the ending badge. One HOGAN beat staying clean. Yeah. When you go back to like HOGAN, Andre wrestlemainia three it, really. It had less than three month, build you talk HOGAN sting. Talk talking July, eighteen months hard. But what? But I like that. She's unheard of like wrestling fans today couldn't let and they just kept building unveiled. And they go out on house shows and have this match. Right. He didn't do anything. They slowly Bill. It was a slow burn. But when it's a slow burn. You gotta have a bang any right? And they did. And for those of you listening just to kind of feel you on what happened. And then we'll talk about what should have happened. So what happened? They get the end of the match HOGAN drops a leg. Nick, Patrick counts. Three a normal three count, right Bret Hart. Call counts it was supposed to be a fast three canned. Yes. And that okay. I get that. But went to Nick Patrick have been this dirty referee. You sit and all that. So he does a real fast three county had they done that this one thing yet. Didn't he had a normal Kate HOGAN one? Yeah. So again, I've read different things here. Recently, one of the things that I read in nitro the book by guy Evans, which I highly recommend. I'd just finished this week was that when Bischoff and HOGAN show up to meet with sting like stains, just kind of out of it their side of is he he hit out all this time off, and he instead of showing up with, you know, ten extra pounds of muscle, and blah, blah, blah, showed up kind of doughy like you haven't been in war shirt. Yeah. And and. And and they said, mentally, he just didn't he I guess he had a lot going on personally. But he just he just wasn't all there. And they were kind of like, okay. Are we do, you know, what do we where do we go from here? And depend on who you talk to. You know, HOGAN went to Nick, Patrick and said, hey, just do regular account who who knows I've heard three sides of that story, HOGAN, HOGAN, and Patrick ain't talkin. Then will never do that to me. Right. You know, Nick, Patrick to me is heard actually that. There was some money exchange that he paid. Yeah. Did I mean, right? One of the one of the stories out there say, well, Nick, Patrick has proved throughout his career to be a competent referee. When I mean is. He three he knew his job. He could do what was asked to write Sony way. Bret Hart comes out says that was a fast count. I'm not gonna let this happening in coming off the heels of the Montreal screw job matches. Restarted staying gets HOGAN in the scorpion death lock and taps out. And staying is the champion then you get on nitro the next night. And you've built eighteen months. This one match in the year. Meet -ly getting to have a rematch, and I'm right there with you. I it just it was not good. So then I'm reading the article, and I got you know, I like the, yeah, I like the fantasy I've kind of something I enjoy. So I started thinking. If I was if I was booking that manage. How would I book the match to go? Yeah. And I think I laid out in my mind. I think you don't go more than about ten minutes. I think that. Sting is the challenger. So he's coming to the ring. I yeah. You've had a slow build. It's okay to have a hot start. Yeah. You know because you've built it them built and built. Yeah. It's time for the pale and staying was lowered from the rafters at the time. So you have staying come down from the rafters get about two inches from the Matt. We're just about the tips of his toes will touch and he stops. And he can't he hasn't go. He won't go down any further. And we switched to a camera angle where the guy who's running the controls laid on the ground at Holland Nash. You're standing there working the controllers. And now, they've got stinks suspended. The lights have been down. They come back on Hogan's already in the ring. And he attacks thing like opinion. And now instinct helpless, he can't even fight back. He's he's hung. He's hung in the air and HOGAN just proceeds to take his bad away from him. Hit him across the mid section. A couple of times. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boo. And he beats him like a steel drum. Yeah. For two minutes. Yeah. Three. Yeah. And then while he's hanging there but HOGAN reaches up takes to deal lose. Yeah. Drops it. Now, staying late in the middle of the ring. And HOGAN goes into nineteen eighty-seven HOGAN mode, and he does the entire routine. Yeah. He poses. Yeah. He cooks your. Yeah. He takes in the boo and they're booing him. But he's taking it in like their building him up like he just slammed. Andre the giant. Right. He goes to because logically. If he had just beaten staying up staying wouldn't be able to make a comeback, right? He'd beat him with a ball that. Yeah. But if he spends three or four minutes posing. Yeah. The cry. It's believable that sting could now get a little bit of recovery. Yeah. Hogan rolls him over. Hits the ropes dig leg drop. Boom. Then he jumps up, and he starts to pose again, staying turns into HOGAN. Yeah. And staying jumps up on his feet. Now. He's standing behind HOGAN HOGAN turns around God. And then they go into the sting hawking up. Yes. Like hulk HOGAN routine and he hits him with the scorpion desk drought. He puts him in the in the scorpion death lock rose him over and HOGAN taps out. And this match goes about eight minutes. It's all fluff. We paid it off quick. Yeah. And the people will go crazy because you didn't drag out, right? They didn't try to put not everything has to be a twenty five minute athletic, right? Yeah. I just don't think that now I think people will accept. Yes, you're always going to have the smart marks. Now think everything needs to be twenty minutes right flipping and flopping, but in nineteen Ninety-seven that wasn't the case right Meltzer. Would of hated it again. Okay. He would this pro. Yeah. But you just do it quick. And yeah, you pay it off quick you give the people that resolution to this long story, you've made them wait eighteen minds made them, wait, eighteen months. It's okay. To have happen quick. Yeah. And that's the yeah. And then JJ doesn't have to go out Monday and strip the tidal, you know, and staying doesn't. It's almost like a release for staying to. He can kinda he can take a breath WCW of the guys come out. They do the same thing. They pick him up on their shoulders. We got a new champion, blah, blah, blah. He'd have to change his persona, and he didn't have changes gimmick now. But he doesn't have to be isn't necessarily as dark and brooding because he overcame the force. And then you've. Put the title back. Your you? You know, a few months later, and you do it all over what if what if they had done this? What if you bring? Staying, you know, the celebrations happening in the ring Hogan's rolled out celebrations happening all the WCW is in and we're hard comes in. And it star. Kate goes off the air stinging, Bret Hart or just kinda standing there facing off and you got something and you can get HOGAN off to. Yes, you take HOGAN off a TV 'cause I can't miss you. If you go and stings, I I wanna bring credit Brit -bility back this title, and he and he starts defending the title legit defenses and leads to he's he's battling a Bret Hart. And he puts Bret Hart out, you know, you've actually wanna get the tide loan Bret Hart, but the match everybody really wants to see his, HOGAN and heart. Right. So staying overcomes Bret Hart, and that's when you bring HOGAN back, you know, March or April three or four months later, let HOGAN get over. Over on staying, and then heart can wrestle HOGAN or whatever. But yes, I think. Like even like TI show that the pa- like that that victory. It's star Cade. It should have taken the wind out of the in W O sales. And it didn't know it was like, they just went on business as usual. And then the, you know, the the sting on TV the next night beat people up and get their heat back. That's what they used to do. Right. Right. They never lost their. Yeah. In this. To me he'll needs to lose their heat. So they can get back. Can let me throw this idea out at you. Okay. Star cades over Monday nitro. Holland Nash kick HOGAN at the end w lame out lame off TV, then you have staying feud, Bret Hart. Br hard in the end their payoff match turns he'll. See I don't like that. I don't think Br harsh ever have had any association with HOGAN or Holland. No, no, no, listen. No, no, no heart turns he'll beat sting. Red and yellow HOGAN comes back comes back. He's gonna fight Bret Hart. He's gonna fight the end wwl now. And Br bring him back, you know, couple years to me that would have been logical HOGAN lost the bell and having kicked out of the W O. He was I mean, the N W wouldn't have worked without HOGAN. Right. I'm sure it would have been okay good night. Look at that. Why? I mean, it's on the outside. I don't know if you can see it good. That's hornet. Jimmy, cricket. No. It ain't Jiminy cricket. He ain't out there. Singing when you wish upon a star. You'll be saying you're going to be wishing I didn't get up in your Starwood. Speaking of stain. Hornets gonna give you this gore stinger splash, or no, no, my thing was he as almost as big as a hummingbird as man. Oh my goodness. And I'm glad that's on your side of the room hips lipid. Hip slip in this. What are we talking about? That was it. I tell you we when we discussed it. We knew this would be kinda show where that I just thought something we were talking about figured we'd record it. No. I, you know, I think that's a great idea. I not thought about the whole staying just kind of hanging there. I think that's brilliant, man. And you could even have it where Nick Patrick doesn't call for the bell while he's beaten staying with the bat. Right. And then he calls. Oh, yeah. If enough you've been around WCW still be business because you would you would have gone to the corporate people in like, y'all shit and merged with y'all should will. Really shouldn't do this will to be in twenty years. Right. We know one of the things in nitro that they talked about is when they first started talking about the merger. It was gonna AOL's stock was higher, right? Then turner. And by the time the deal was coming it had reversed. But by then it was kind of to write too late to do anything about it. But ultimately, whatever people wanna think the end of that company is because of that merger. They didn't want wrestling on their TV anymore. They had a buyer lined up. But once they pulled the TV deal the buyer back now, right? The TV do you to them for McMahon? The liquid assets were more value than the name. Right. TV the library and all that stuff. More valuable to him. But for the other guys that stuff didn't matter. Yeah. It was the TVD so one of the without it. There was no reason for them to buy one of the things they talk about a nitro is McMahon ends up getting WCW for between four and five million including the assets, plus the tape library the numbers turn that. Fusion media was gonna pay was like CCT media. But what what the guy was saying was that part of the deal part of that sixty two million was they were gonna make that back because Turner was gonna continue to sell ads for them. Right. And so he's like if you take out that part of it. We were we were only going to pay four or five minutes for the company because all that other money was going to was kind of going in. One door not the other. But I like I said, man. You and I both have read. It's a ton of we've read newsletters. We've heard shoot interviews. And you know, if there's two wrestling book, she by this year, it was should be death. The territory's in Nitra there's three wrestle books. You buy this year, the other ones should be the Brian pilgrim. But yeah. I'm reading it next. I got to pick those other two course if you listen to Bischoff now all the stuff in that is. Crap because it's for Meltzer. But but Meltzer was getting it from Bilman. Yeah. When you talk to the guy that pill moment when you when your book is based on the three people pill men was talking to then it's pretty heavy Brian. I mean, there's always a bias when you're telling the story. Always when you're telling you did right. He's tend to make yourself when you're the bad guy. You kinda don't make yourself out to be quite as it. Right. When you're the good guy. Lord have mercy years. Why you're the John Wayne of of good guys when you're telling the story, and you know, lightning in both fists come in with these Mickelson. Let's go thing. Which is. So hey, like, I said, hey, pretty pretty good episode, Mark, Sharon, his thoughts on how he would book sting and HOGAN stark aid, ninety seven very pivotal pivotal moment about right at that halfway point of HOGAN being in in WCW. And and just kind of the definitely a big misstep that affected the company for sure I don't make it missed it makes you do the subscri- makes you check out our great sponsors, it SOS, custom tease dot com. The only place to get a fish oil double dropkick show merchandise is where. You can get tickets for local wrestling shows. It's where you can get the only certified independent wrestling memory cards for John scholars owner now aka Ricky Roberts for Monday night, raw got his cards on there. They got memorabilia, some of them are signed great deal. Hey makes great stocking stuffer. What's the deal, and you may not won't talk about it here with him using the Ricky Roberts name. Are they who that or do? They he has a t-shirt coming out that says Ricky Roberts. I don't know. He he he's just always there seemed to be very protective of their stuff. And I'm just curious. He just did a podcast interview. Zane Riley started a to start a podcast called. Extra talented, and it's guys telling their stories of being extras. Oh, and he he talks about that. He doesn't really he talks about how that whole thing came about that it wasn't supposed to be him in that spot, but he had met Elias. And like Elias kind of said I out rather have this guy in this spot. And that's kind of how it worked out. And he doesn't I don't he doesn't get into the whole Ricky Roberts. She's narratives about that. I've seen him using it, and yeah, he wrestled protective. They are he wrestled as Ricky Roberts at Chester AP w couple of weeks ago. I mean, he may come up with that name. But yeah, that's when he comes into it comes down to when he talked when my Mike Mooney ham did an article about him the week after that. And he talked about hey, came from Ricky Morton and Robert Gibson, well obvious. So yeah, that's I. I don't I don't we need somebody to tell us that. Rickie more. But no, but no, you said that you said that uh, you weren't sure. So I I do think I I think he did come up, and he may have with the name come up with. They may not you know. But that's you know, that they've only done a couple of episodes of that podcast. And it's it's been very interesting too. I mean, if you're interested in the view of an extra who who's going like just what goes into a Monday night raw in that. They do rehearsals and stuff like that. It was a pretty fascinating. And he talked about being on next, tea and. Things like that. You know? I don't know just everything you hear about WW. How protective they are of of stuff. Like if guys would hurt themselves by doing a show like that. Maybe these guys that know, hey, I'm probably. I think now they. No. I mean, everything's kind of out there. You know? They're not I think John is smart enough. John is smart enough to know he there's opportunities ahead of him. And so I think he's wise enough to to understand, you know, what he's gonna do when he's not gonna do any talks about you know, when he got done the Ricky Roberts like all the stuff he'd done. He never met manse and the Ricky Roberts thing they took him into the main guerrilla position like bents. Kinda gave them pound back or whatever. So that's good. He took a heck of a spine. Buster Gedeon, also. That was awesome. Yeah. It is entertaining. So, hey, that's what we need. We need to go re book the extras, I like him. I like he's a he's a good guy. Yeah. I've only met him once. But I mean, we stood in the parking lot and talk for ten minutes. Really? Really nice guy. Yeah. I got always glad to see. Our guys are guys, you know, because you feel like that when you buy shows, and you you know, you do stuff. It's just cool man to see them making it, man. I like that. Yeah. I mean when guys get opportunities, and they have they've put in the time, and they have. They understand the history, and they understand the business side of things, and they understand the hard work that they've got to do. And and the thing in the understand the reason behind the hardware, and the reason behind the hard work is people are paying their hard earned money to see and John's John's top guy man, really really cool to hang out with. So almost as cool to hang out with is you not. Oh, yeah. I mean, we're gist. What's the word? I'm looking for. I can't even find a word right now for me. I'm speechless. I cannot find an adjective that is adequate to describe what it's like, we're groggy though, man. It's after lunch. So we're going to record a few more things. But as for this episode, it's done it's in the record books Veneto. But as always for the double drop kick show, I'm heath molecule, Mark Whitman this week Lynne's. He's so long for now.

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Hour 2: Weekend Observations

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:14 min | 2 years ago

Hour 2: Weekend Observations

"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock Gotcha podcast is brought to you by capital on Capitol. One is reimagining banking offering accounts with no fees or minimums that can be opened in five minutes capital one. What's in your Wallet Capital One N._A.? Member F._D._I._C.. This is the Don Lebatardshow. We've got spot CASS congratulations to E._S._P._N.. And Pat McAfee in that order because at McAfee joins joins E._S._P._N.. And is a lot of fun and he will climb very quickly. The job they've started off with is a big one but not big enough he will soon shine or get fired in a way that all of us will enjoy watching Ching because he is he's just fun and he's a little bit more carefree than the average announcer and furthermore is a guy principled enough to walk away from being an excellent punter because it's boring and it doesn't stimulate its mind enough. He's got a great personality L. E. But with us a few times he's going to be doing Thursday night college football games as an analyst which is awesome and also get up. He should be on Monday night football. He should be there <hes> that would have been brave and ballsy to replace Jason Witten with him but he'll have of his chance because you will see how quickly that dude climbs because it sounds different. It sounds less careful. It sounds more dangerous. It sounds more confident than the average polished broadcaster who may be very good at his job but doesn't have quite as much personality and isn't a comfortable enough showing off that personality Stu gods weekend observations are going to be in thirty minutes. Can we get to the bottom of what T._M._Z. is reporting here. Here's what we've got. We've got are we referring to him. Now diddy is it P.. Diddy is just sitting. I think it's just diddy. Thank you Chris. I appreciate it changed. His name never number of times the J. Girl. You're still fly girl fly girl. Did you guys read this though that there is a lot of rumor read that I figured at least T._M._Z. The cotton candy you'd read every every story four paragraphs and two giant pictures why every four paragraphs on T._M._z. but <hes> there are a lot of there are a lot of rumors circulating that he might be dating Steve Harvey's daughter which is one thing but the other thing is that his son dated Steve Harvey's daughter and so <hes>. I'm going to ask you the shipping container everybody the now. I don't know if it's true yet if it's been confirmed that because did he's been denying it everyone's been denying and so they've just been seen together. They were spotted out again. They've been spotted a couple of times this time. They were spotted wearing matching up it. Should I do the T._M._Z.. Voice the SIPPY Cup and sip from giant straws well be like that anxious guy leaning over that cubicle Yuck enough of those meeting with a was seeing out and then we're talking daddy and Steve Harvey's daughters twenty two years old. He's forty nine and get this hardy. She dated his son now. Source close to shoot down the rumors but that it doesn't change the fact that we have this misleading headline excellent Bait and the pit photographs of matching clothes put that on the poll Tony if a man and a woman are wearing matching clothes are they most certainly dating thing and you don't need any more proof imagine being on a blind date and it's the T._M._Z. Guy. That's me speaking of celebrity couples but this on the poll as well Tony where you made sad by Arabs birthday cake <hes> the if it's J. Lo an era and I put this on the poll as well who's worth more A. Rod or J.. Lo who who is worth more. I would imagine J. Lo right. I don't know he's priceless because she helped rebuild the man's career that too but I don't know in terms of in terms like in the Tom Brady household he is not the leading breadwinner. His wife is leading breadwinner because just L. bunging is a supermodel and that pays even better than quarterback pays especially when your quarterback is always taking pay cuts. I have an article up presently that says their combined net worth would reach close to a Billion Dollars Aron A. J. A. Rod had multiple contracts. Only one of them was two hundred and fifty two million so I don't Andy's and business. I really don't know who's worth more there but the point is you need to do better on the birthday cake if you two are worth that much because the birthday cake is a sad birthday cake as I have ever seen as of last year a J.lo's net worth was a reported three hundred eighty million dollars. Yeah I'm seeing four hundred on a couple of sites around there for Jalen rods worth more than that right not. I'm not quite just under so it's close to a billion dollars but not a billion even and we're looking at three fifty. Yeah I mean I've been divorced so she no that's true but I don't know who get who does get who. That's child support and all that stuff when you're married Mark Anthony Can I do. How would you guys describe this? How would you ASSOC- some bikini bottles of Dada like how would you guys describe this birthday cake? The only words on it are happy birthday correct. He didn't eat any of it right now. There was a photo there was only one sad slice missing and it was apparently eaten by the people in the media room. They pressured him so he did. The thing really took us put his finger through it yeah yeah he had he didn't want him about it hasn't had a carbs in two thousand and one. I think I think the upset is that it survive. The media room with only one size is amazing. He was saying that the celebrations been all week and he's eating so much cake that he was the game. Mike 'cause La- Greco would have gotten a piece of that is in Boston in Boston Yankees Red Sox eras. I was talking you hear him talk about how he was. If you're dancing J.LO's birthday party it looked incredible. We went the greatest party it did and then now that was her Adrian Peterson's. That was her party now how his party bringing an incredibly sad cake in baseball and and work cake is especially sad because you get all your co workers that are there just singing happy birthday because they just really wanna eat the cake just get get this thing over with she. She just picked up the cake right. There was no effort of all his name's not on it. Just had this Andrew you have working with our own number Lopez stopping off at Publix. Someone picked up the cake fair point by you guys. Somebody picked up that cake but she gave no instruction. You just go get the basic say get the cane producers idea and the idea was just to get video. I'm with I am. Actually this wasn't e._S._P._N.. Cake. I believe that this was not done by Jaylo. I believe that somebody in the production truck truck just whipped up. This was absolutely expensive. Stugatz here hiring is challenging but there's one place you can go. A hiring is simple fast and smart a place where growing businesses connect to qualify candidates dates that places ziprecruiter dot com slash Dan Ziprecruiter send your job to over one hundred of the Web's leading job boards but they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invite. 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Just make sure that when you yell at me and not a Derek Carr that's good leadership. It is yeah you're letting you're letting Antonio kind of be Antonio Buddy. It's only has already been paid so it's a little bit different. Jalen Ramsey wants to get paid. I understand but Antonio Brown also is about that money. Antonio Brown wants that cash that's why he's making videos from his pool in which he's telling you to have a happy second wedding and adversity that how he said it what is the name of that site where you pay five hundred dollars to have Antonio Brown <hes> just say something heartfelt and sincere to you from his pool. It costs only five hundred dollars courtesy of Cameo happy thirty birthday and I hear this a second anniversary wedding. I hear you been working really hard as a defense attorney and your birthday is here happy birthday. We celebrate you today. Your birthday is booming. How is that better than what Jalen did for a rod on our Air Hound which put it on the poll at lebatardshow which is the better birthday greeting this one? I'm from Antonio Brown courtesy of what is it. Is it cameo happy thirty eighth birthday and I hear this your second anniversary wedding. I hate you been working really hard as defense attorney. Your birthday is here happy birthday. We celebrate you. Today of your birthday is booming. I just love so much that he doesn't know the guy's name doesn't definitely not reading I was I'd take perfect. Perfect five hundred dollars so badly wanted to be again I I we learned we learned during the break that the thumbing of the nose is actually putting your thumb on on your nose and wiggling your fingers I did not I did not in any boo boo and it started in the early nineteen hundreds now it comes from England where the original phrases Kaka snook but no one really knows where this gesture really truly originated or what it actually has to do with caulking snuck. I think you need to be careful with that. PHRASE SNUCK SO we've hired Pat McAfee and this is going to be fun to God's for those of you who do not know who he he is. I was actually surprised he went the E._S._p._N.. Route I thought he might go because he had a lot of options. He had a threat of options he could've worked anywhere and because he's that he's that you reporting added a lot of options. We just assuming I'm assuming that you imagine that he would have him top free agent. I'm not just assuming it though we want him as part of our world too and so there were conversations about wanting him as part of our world and we were competing with other people on world he does I think pat fancies himself more than just a football analyst right and so I think there are more opportunities like get up and places where he can really make his mark as just a former punter who is now calling college football doing good work with the W._W._e.. He's he's a he's a great personality. He does really well on television. Is podcast is good. I also find interesting though that when we're putting him on games were only doing it <hes> with people that were not worried about the corporate partnership on College Football. You can put them on those games <hes> the N._F._l.. Wants it's Monday night to feel a certain way and my guess is that feeling is not McAfee. <hes> probably although the college football relationship is also an important portent but we've got all the power in that one we were the ones with all the power because we're the one giving the money and <hes> and we don't have to actually listen to I mean there's a Longhorn network PAC twelve S._e._C. S._e._c. like these networks even like these conferences have their own spinoff off. No we're running. We're running all that stuff. That's that's a place where we're making a lot of money in with the N._F._l.. We're paying a lot of money a bill over billion dollars a lot of money for the right so you have to negotiate these things but I understand your point. Well what you guys have noticed right that the entire E._S._P._N.. I mean this to me. It's pretty unavoidable. <hes> that when we have the partnerships with people we cover it better whether it's U._F._c. n._F._l.. <music> got it up here. It is from the magic crate of content imagine you're on top of a forty storey building and there's is a giant inflatable landing pad at street level. It's big enough that you have a ninety five percent chance of surviving the jump. Would you jump off to save a friend's life which friend yeah. That's an important in detail. You're saying that it's a friend that's cool but they're you know different degrees of friend forty stories man my friends dead man. Can I watch someone go. I just to make sure that the wind is not like right. Yeah escape percentage goes down three percent right you saying Eddie friend you have is dead. There's not a single friend in when she would be ninety five percent Roy Crossville. Sorry cajoles yeah where do you what do you have happening in Heaven or Hell crossroads and you meet there you say what is your version of Evan Roy. What is it you get to a crossroads and you decide either the pitchfork lane or the one with a halo like the guys don't I didn't? I didn't get what he was saying. No mismatch uncle Charles. I mean listen. I'm sorry I didn't get that. I missed it. WHO's your favorite bone thug forty stories yes he? Can we analyze for moment forty stories that is that's a lot of store yeah lots of stories but also it's a lot of death for my friend. We'll have to wait ninety five the percent probability that ninety five percents. It's GonNa take me a while to work the courage up to actually do this even if even if you give me one hundred percent chance that I'm surviving. It's going to be a lot to get me out of there but say it's Roy where you got a kid man on a save your life brother Sir thank. You Mike Nice very nice moving about Guillermo would you does but he just got married. I'll save his life where we all jump for Dan for sure official thing massively like what if it was a fifty fifty proposition still jump if not fifty fifty 'cause I got yeah I got out. I wasn't on hopping off that building man. I wasn't honestly assuming that you would even be by my side through last. Last week that is straight talk. It is brought to you by straight talk wireless everything for less I- Walmart plus you want your whispered conversations about I get to stay for the next three years. I A tweeter writes in and when we get to Stu gods his weekend observations survey ships in a minute here but a tweeter writes in that that Antonio Brown cameo joint sounds like Luca Brasi at Connie's wedding happy thirty birthday and I hear this a second anniversary wedding. I heard you been working really hard as defense attorney and your birthday is here happy birthday. We celebrate you today. Your birthday is booming. I already been working really hard as a defense attorney time now for this weekend observation it is time for Stugotz to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my voice to weekend. Observations versions brought to you by vivid seats need seats to a game Dalo the vivid seats at and enter Promo Code Chimps at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just any seat get a vivid seat then after what can easily be described as one of the strangest weeks in our shows history a week that saw you blow off stupidity and do H._Q.. From thirty thousand feet after all of that and maybe some other stuff then you are back and they'll be diamond classics on E._S._p._N.. Classic so underrated <unk> spent Sunday morning watching the final four innings of Dennis. Martinez is nineteen ninety-one perfect game against the dodger. Tom Some notes one sim well batting in the seven bunting the dry break up the perfect game one. You should be ashamed of yourself. It's L. President. I'm ashamed of myself. Oh my God I had that later. It's a line that's in a suit weekend observations anyways. Thanks guys anyway back to the game. That's Watson well bunting in the seventh in case you missed it to try and break up the perfect game. You should be ashamed of yourself ugly. Tim Wallach Alec was happier about Dennis Martinez his perfect game than Dennis Martinez Tim Wallet Professional Hitter Chris Quinn The final out just missed the barrel. The Bat had he not Martinez would've lost the perfect game the no hitter the shutout and inexplicably being mugged by Tim Wallich L. President Day Jesus. That's quite the Sunday morning I carved out for myself to are- kill said he's working on being a better father in person Tariq. Here's an idea rather than work on it. How about you just be a better father and person thanks also thinking about taking you in round sue of my fantasy drab so don't forget to keep working on becoming a better football player to thanks again? We're still trotting A._J.. Green out there for that all important first practice Jeremy. I mean it's ridiculous. What are we doing A._J.? Green Beret J. Green six weeks red rifle as no weapons is he still with the Bengals is they'll always be with the bengals is the thirty fifth year of Andy. Jeremy Lin said he feels like the N._B._A.. has kind of given up on him Jeremy. You'll always have that one month for one bleep in month. Jeremy Lin was the biggest star our ED story. It's sports until he played the brawn. James and Dwayne Wade who went out of their way to end the story Lin Sanity. Mike Daniels said he signed with the Lions so he could play quite for Genius Matt Patricia Mike. I'm guessing the lions offered the most money be Patricia wrote into training camp on a scooter and the pencil is there to make them appear smarter than he he actually is and see the Lions Defense was sixteenth in points per game last year just behind the redskins and just ahead of the vaunted buffalo bills defense four dollars bottles of smart water at the airport art. Go bleep yourself. The only Smart People Matt Equation is the company. If the water was named after their consumers it would be named dumb water. Patrick Mahomes is kind of like Tim Tiba was at the University of Florida. Hey Don't pay attention to all the bad dudes wiki drafted over here. Look over there. We have a quarterback that is a great smile. A great personality and complete passes with either hand without looking Philip rivers at sixteen million dollars. This year is the biggest bargain in sports. Actually he's not Patrick. Mahomes is rivers is definitely in the top ten though I think report Ziya Williamson is still growing question which way two years ago it was the best young staff in baseball two years later. They are trading them all away. I hate them. Ask Yourself this question if Colin. Colin Coward and Dan Patrick are so happy with where they are at. Why do they reach out to E._S._P._N.? Every time what happened you didn't know where I was going. They sniff an opportunity. I kind of knew where you were going to replace us. The heard EP the Danettes Paulie Seton mclovin Fritzy sports media reports. I like those guys I understand. I I do the same thing I was doing the same thing sports media reporters your sources st you know nothing. Did you love snooping around our business so much. I'm going to start sniffing around yours. I said the same thing a year ago and and never followed up but this time up serious I thought about it at Philip. Rivers is not in the top. What a ridiculous thing? This did Brooks Kapika. Saint Jude's classic was a major Stephen Strasburg widely having the best season of his career in the least shocking news of the weekend Freddie Kitchens punish the BROWNS ray training cam fight by making them run Kassar's people in sports who can know things you would find in a kitchen William Perry and Tim spooning Barger Odell Beckham stayed after practice to catch sixty seven seven consecutive passes one handed from a jugs machine show off by the way jugs machine cannon. If the jets started jugs machine it would end up being the best quarterback it franchise history the Odell Beckham Junior staying after practice to get some extra work it and giving a young van at training camp his cleats all while the cameras were rolling Odell the J._J.. Watt is strong in you. Nobody loves to PISS PEOPLE OFF more than Major League Umpire Angel Hernandez. Wherever Angel Hernandez is you'll also likely find a heated manager Brooks kept good arrived forty five minutes before the final round of the Saint Jude and went out and fired a final round sixty five to win the tournament? I love it Trevor Bauer Chew Ch- Terry Francona take a chill pill Tito Dan if if legalized sports gambling in every state does it kill Las Vegas. Those grasshoppers most certainly will sean Lee volunteered the place special teams because he sean Lee Sam Prestige Deep said Paul Georgia's claim the thunder one of the trade him wasn't true Sam. You didn't have to trade them. You can't football team is leaving the A._C._C. to join the big east and we'll call them seventeen million dollars dollars to do so bleep in Yukata but no money for the report raiders tackle Trent Brown thirsty for more of everything July Dan the mets can't decide if they are buyers or sellers Zeller's reason eight hundred seventy eight thousand black coaches in the N._F._l.. And at all levels have every reason to be frustrated and angry. The Falcons are bringing in wait for it wait for art disgraced former Maryland Coach D._j.. Turkey buster only tweet Marcus Stroman is a ground ball machine and the mets have what is statistically the worst infield defense in the majors. I Hate Atlanta. Falcons gone question why the nets traded their fourth and six best prospects to the Jays for Marcus stroman because they are a win now mode. I hate them. What is he doing statistically got you? He had a couple of strokes that the end of this anyone all's quite a Broncos camp and in the event you missed it last week. That's due in large part to VIC fangio banning music. Thanks less than a year ago Stanford players said D._J.. Jerking was a terrible human. Being speaking of terrible human beings our lives in hell. Dan Those are the weekend observations as Antonio Brown comes to camp in a hot air balloon and I see Michael Irvin on I take I want to ask you the question as as we talk about Antonio Brown because I wanNA talk about Antonio Brown. This is going to be interesting with the raiders you saw how it worked out with the discipline of Mike Tomlin <hes> he lost Antonio Brown pretty clearly Antonio Brown was doing stuff on social media that was open defiance of his coach and the first thing I want to ask you is the first diva receiver was blank like who was the first was it Michael Irvin like who was the first in terms of guy who played the position. It's a singular. It's an individual position that <hes> is trying to abide by the team construct but the guys it's the most controversial position in sports the guy who trample sportsmanship at the wide receiver position. They're not the thugs in hockey who beat people down. There is goods yet. goons thugs was Andre rising loaded word was rising before Michael Irvin Andre Rising and Michael Irvin. Were about the same time. I don't remember Andre Rise and I remember him being sort of reckless but I don't remember him being the diva wide receiver bad teammate stuff. Am I remembering that wrong. Yes I think so keyshawn Johnson probably before Michael after Michael Ervin keyshawn was well after I kept me the damn ball or give me the damn ball or throw. The Damn Ball was the title of Keyshawn Johnson Book But the reason I WanNa talk about this is because Antonio Brown has ultimately you been rewarded for his behavior. He's gotten the money and the team that he wanted. He wouldn't let them trade him to buffalo and now Jon Gruden is saying there's going to be a lot more drama and I'm good with that. Just make sure that you're yelling at me instead of Derek Carr and the thing that I want to ask you as we talk about in general devaux wide receivers elmo right was the first receiver to dance in the end zone act like you've been there before <hes> elmo right Elmo. I thought billy white shoes Johnson was the first to create the celebration didn't billy white you Johnson create the spike in the end zone ellie white you first belly white shoes Johnson who wore different colored shoes the stick out was in one thousand nine hundred ninety five and he did a Dan specific to himself but aloe right was the godfather of dancing in the end zone. Well hold on a second didn't billy white shoes Johnson knocked his knees together after scoring touchdowns which is just so quaint ain't an old-fashioned got mad bullet. Bob Hayes would like a word with all of you saw the position has created personality types that are egos soaked and the confidence. You have to have confidence playing playing that position. The confidence doesn't always stay within the lines homer. Jones invented the football spike. I WANNA billy white shoes Johnson. Do we wore white shoes and knocked his knees together. He wore white shoes that I am confirming. He did indeed knocked his knees together. Thanks great it was scandalous. It was like rock and roll polluting the young people ironically enough. The first diva football player wasn't a wide receiver. It's the antiseptic quarterback position Joe Nemeth Broadway Joe so useless thank you so he arrives at Camp in a hot air balloon and that's basically telling everyone hey I ain't change it like I'm not coming here to Oakland to do anything. In the way of changing they ran me out of Pittsburgh. I sat out the last game because I was so tired of everything Pittsburgh and so I ask you what is the right way to handle Antonio Brown given what I'm about to tell you. Can I've told you this before. Antonio Brown's upbringing bringing was unholy he I've talked to him about a number of times and he doesn't want to go to the dark places. He slept in a car for a while at sixteen. He was like living in motel rooms because he was not someone someone who had his parents around. He was homeless in Miami at Sixteen having grown up in Miami. I can tell you that'll scar a person like being homeless. In this city at sixteen years old will will shape you in ways in adulthood that you do not know and so I can understand why Antonio Brown would think that end zone and the celebration like Tarallo and before him is the place where he goes to get his love like this is a person who in his teenage years was not feeling supported loved didn't have a home and so now he's got into the pros and he's doing his way because who's the guy he could bet on when he was sixteen and nobody care who's the only person he could bet on again and again who's never failed him himself and he wasn't here for the rigidities Jibbidy of Mike Tomlin the drill sergeant stuff he tolerated it and he didn't have to anymore. He saw everything that was happening all around sports with guys getting power and now he arrives a John Cruden camp for hard knocks in a hot air balloon. Like what are you doing. If you're JON GRUDEN and you're watching that I mean you wanted Antonio Brown <hes> so you have to let Antonio Brown act like he's Antonio Brown otherwise what's the point of going out and getting Antonio Brown. You'RE GONNA try to change the Tomlin. Did he ended up in Oakland. Did you guys see what Mark Sharon had to say about all of this they dude. He is not happy with how people are getting a camp with other addition of man one. Oh one now a lot of great training camp arrivals right. We've seen hot air balloons. We've seen I don't know brink's trucks race cars. You know there used to be a day when you just showed up in your own vehicle. UNPACK your clothes Jose blanket. Maybe a pillow and you went to work trying to win a championship with your teammates but I suppose that's just not Dushi enough man Wanna one. You're welcome what a great thing. Schleyer wouldn't even arrive at Camp with the truck testicles he would take them off before he went in because he didn't want to be scandalous just a pickup truck and a blanket clean.

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"We are back on. Get up and let's get up and go with news from the world of tennis and just this morning. The world's number one ranked player Novak Djokovic. Tested positive for the corona virus. This is the fourth player to test positive. After eight tournament that he himself helped organize just in the last week or so he was seen it several parties there and so now he is tested positive. Meanwhile, the Orlando Pride have withdrawn from the upcoming NWS L. Challenge Cup after six players and four staff members tested positive covert nineteen at tournaments scheduled to begin this Saturday, and the PGA championship will be held at its originally scheduled side of harding park in San Francisco without fans. The first major on the twenty twenty schedule set to be played from August sixth through. Through the ninth, and with that as we approach at the top of the hour ten o'clock in the morning here in the East Mike Greenberg in Bristol Connecticut. This is get up on ESPN. We'll be with you for just under another hour. Ten fifty eastern time this morning I take will come your way, but actually Stephen Smith is GonNa join us in just a moment to talk about what was without question, the story of the day yesterday and he came from the world of NASCAR and this photo, which has been seen now and been liked over half a million times five hundred forty thousand times. Times at last check that I saw was Bubba Wallace whose day began yesterday with a hug from Richard Petty who was there to support his of the eighty two year old petty, his first race, since the pandemic began, and here's the moment with the entire. It felt like the entire Nascar community dozens of drivers in their teams, pushing Wallace's car to the front of the line and several of them, as he was overcome by emotion, coming over offering individual support there of course as petty doing so and Jimmy Johnson and many of the other drivers, and then coming up here. We'll be the SELFIE that. That I was referring to I checked right before we came on the air this morning, and it had been like five hundred and forty thousand times this picture that Bubba Wallace took with what felt like the entire world of NASCAR, standing behind him in supporting him, and then of course the race would begin with twenty laps to go. He'd get a push from Ghana when Wallace would be. The leader would hold that lead for a lap before being passed, you'd alternately finish fourteen, but after the race, he made it clear as far as he was concerned, he was a big winner on the day. I'm proud to stand where I'm and carry a new face. I time here from Atlanta. Sport is changing The deal that happened yesterday. Sorry, not wearing my mask, but I wanted to show whoever was. You'RE NOT GONNA. Take away my smile. And I'm going to keep on going. All in all. We want today the pre-race steel. Steel was probably one of the hardest thing I've ever had to witness in my life. From Hall of the supporters from drivers from crew members. Everybody here the fan base. Thank you guys for coming out. Is On truly incredible and I'm proud to be part of this sport. What a day it was, and there was a lot of reaction on Social Media Walla's team Richard Petty motorsports tweeting. Proud of you, Bubba, Wallace, keep on smiling. NASCAR's official account added. It's moments like this that make us proud to have bubba wallace in the garage every weekend. How Marty Smith was on hand for all of this yesterday? He was with us an hour ago. It was such a resounding statement by the sport by the driving core, and one of the reasons might did it. So beautiful is because it was initiated facilitated and executed by the driving core. This wasn't some PR thing by NASCAR. This was a group of men standing behind appear and a brother. and. One of the most amazing moments I've ever seen in sport. And with that we bring in for some conversation Jay will is back with US Stephen. A Smith is here as I mentioned about fifty minutes, or so from now he will be back with I. Take what Stephen I'll start with you. It was. A day on any I can ever remember certainly a nascar and practically any other. Sport. What did you think about all this stuff? We saw yesterday at Talladega. Well I think it's going to be appreciated. There's no question about that considering the history of NASCAR as it pertains to African Americans, and of the absence of involvement on several levels to see Bubba Wallace being supported by his contemporaries, all around the sport was definitely something to behold I watched Paul Finebaum early, definitely watched Marty Smith they have they can chronicle the history of Nascar they can talk to you about how on non inclusion sport has been to by by lodge for the most part of the confederate flag, symbolizing what it symbolizes to African Americans in this nation in the fact, that fan base along with the. The sport itself pretty much could give a damn for so many many years about how African Americans felt about that to go from what you know. It's history to be at least to some degree to what we witnessed yesterday was definitely something special, and it's something to be celebrated in the flip with the flip side to that, however that you can stop there of the reality is that it was a symbolic gesture, a profound symbolic gesture just gesture, but nonetheless just a gesture, and what real rea- work that comes into play is when we're going to witness and see how inclusion every sport is how many people it employs! Its dealings with the black community How does what it does to ingratiate itself with the black community, instead of in terms of addressing some of the sensitivities, evolving around the sport that has been decried for years, does to conduct things that I'm talking about some symbolic gestures I'm not trying to minimize the importance of it. I understand it has to start somewhere. That's an incredible way to start. We get all of that but the flipside is in terms of some real meat at being added to the bone in terms of. Of things really really getting done to address some of the systemic policies, a some of the systemic tendencies that they've had in place for so many years. Let's see where they go from here. It was really nice to see everybody out there. Let's see what kind of contribution they make to. The kind of things that I mentioned moving forward. That's when I'll stand up and applaud even more for right now. Appreciate the symbolic gesture. Thank you but I'm not going to throw a parade over it. Jay Williams what'd you think? Grigny. Game Yes it is. But you know my freshman year coach case always tell me things about. Hey, look, you have to focus on the game within the game. This is a series of games, and you have to get a series of small wins at accumulate towards the bigger win I think this was another win for Nascar yesterday, and just in the way everything was handled. It's easy to conceal racism. It was easy for. You know NASCAR. When they found the news when he took it to the president to say hey, we want to conceal this instead of concealing it. They decided to open it up to everybody in combat that and talk about it openly. Even with the you know the sign flying the confederate flag de-fund Nascar addressing that openly in combating that openly talking about that and watching bubbly yesterday I'll tell you I've had a lot of friends who are African American who are watching this who are now becoming slow fans of NASCAR, and they wanna see how things are progressing so with that. There's still a long way to go, but I like what. I am seeing right now and I'm liking this community and people that are standing up for what's right and the one thing I taught tweeted the. The other day is I you know. Look if you have hate in your heart, I don't have time for you. The future is moving towards inclusion and love, and if you WANNA be on board that ship, get on board. If you're not I can also say escorts to this. We don't got them for you, and it's good to see NASCAR and we in the same sentence for once. Stephen here's how I talk or one of the many different ways they could look at it. Is that I think there were a lot of people and let's just? Just say those are represented by the people who are flying that plane over the track on Sunday who were looking for tacit signals from NASCAR, and maybe from some of the personnel. Some of the drivers that yeah we get this is this is stuff we have to say and stuff we have to do, but the truth is we still see you and understand your point and what I saw yesterday as was a unanimous showing by what felt like literally every single driver and their entire team so basically everyone who makes Nascar who actually matters saying no. No No, we are fully on board with this change. We are fully on board with moving this into a direction that it is here to for never even considered and so to me, that felt like the most important part of yesterday. If anyone was looking for any tacit signals from a sport with its history that yeah, we know we have to make some changes because that's what people are telling us that we have to do, but we're not really fully on board with it. I thought yesterday was a resounding statement that unanimously they are onboard. Well definitely appreciate where you're coming from and I don't disagree with it from your vantage point what I'm saying is that as a black person that has watched things transpire throughout this nation's history. There have been plenty of moments it may not involve askhat. There have been plenty of examples that we can point to that people you know they. They seem to be sending a resounding message that this would not be tolerated that we're going to move forward that we're going to be progressive and I think we're going to be more inclusionary that we're going to be more fair modern in terms of surrendering some of our privilege to make sure that others that. That are less fortunate. The that are disenfranchised disenfranchised that have been ostracized ultimately get a fair shot at the Apple Pie per. Se does are the kind of things that there have been many instances throughout our nation's history where we've seen folks in that kind of message, and then in the days and weeks to months to follow things dissipated so drastically it was almost as if nothing happened because of few were appeased at the expense of the many. So what I'm saying to you Greenie that I can appreciate where you're coming from I. Don't disagree with you. You have a very valid point. I truly appreciate where you're coming from and I appreciate. Appreciate the gesture that we saw from NASCAR. All I'm trying to say is that that's today was going to be the case next month six months from now and a year from now that's what I'm keeping my eyes on I. appreciate where you're coming from because you're basically pointing to the fact that this is something that never happened before in the case of NASCAR, I agree with that, but I've seen plenty of African Americans throughout this nation's history approach. NASCAR about the need to change, and suddenly it's transpired because the momentum right now is such that they feel like they may not have a choice because they're. This could be drastically. Compromise a sort. Sort leads towards what Steven Jackson and others were alluding to not that I totally agree with them, and Jay was with me on that as well, but I did. I did get their point in other words. If we play the Games is the momentum going to quell and ultimately dissipate in evaporate. That's what they were concerned about. What Their National Basketball Association, which is over seventy five percent black. If you have that concern about the NBA, could you imagine what our concern should be about Nasca so I'm not dropping the ball I'm not I'm not. I'm not taking? I'm not taking my eyes off that point I appreciate the gesture, but I'm watching. I hear you and I don't. Think we both agree with each other? I guess what I'm saying is it would have been easy. I think to have seen some tacit signals in the opposite direction from at Nascar and I didn't see any of it. Myself and I thought for me. If. I'm, GonNa say to add onto a Stephen I said yeah. Looks can be perceiving now just because everybody was in that picture and it looked. One way doesn't think that everybody feels that way, but now what's happening is Nascar being on this side of it. Those people are becoming the minority faster and faster by the second enabled chance to be exposed so I. Wish Stephen. There's a lot more watching to do still like. The direction going. Yeah, that's a good place to. Go, I mean even yeah. I want to say something and it's GonNa seem piercing, but it is the truth, because especially especially if you talk to African Americans particularly in those areas of the country, you know what they'll say. You'd greedy because they've said it to me I guess what we used to see. The K. K. in white sheets. Or what have you now? We see them at work. They're just wearing suits and ties, and they're smiling face, but ultimately they feel entirely differently. There's a large segment of the African American population in this country, particularly in certain segments throughout this country that. That look and they say do people are not going to be as obvious and this conspicuous as they were in the past with their prejudices, they've learned to be more droit and be under the radar and execute that way. These are the kind of things that people in the African Community in American community have been saying for years. They're saying now louder than than than than they ever have in recent memory anyway, and that's the thing that I think people need to take. Take stock of. We're not fall in for some of the symbolic gestures, people are watching. We can keep an eye on it and I can tell you this would be able to talk about it. With Bubba Wallace himself, he will be our guest on Thursday on get up. Guys stay with me here. We'll have more to do with you and I wanNA remind everyone that Bubba will be our guest Thursday morning. Live here on, get up. We'll talk about these experiences and all this stuff that we're. We're talking about here. What does the future of NASCAR look like through his is? We'll talk about that and more bubble. Wallace with me on meanwhile more NFL conversation as we continue. Baker Mayfield says he's going to let us play. Do all the talking, but of his play doesn't get the Brown to. The playoffs rule the season the letdown answer that question and more as we continue. Get up on ESPN. You know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So, what are you waiting for your baby to let you sleep in? Sleep another half hour. Thank, Sweetheart. And you'll change yourself to. Never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October, seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details. Back on get many. Consider this a make or break year for Baker Mayfield and Cleveland after six ten season under Freddie Kitchens bleacher report detailed what a successful twenty twenty season! Look for every team and this is what they said about the browns. Playoff appearance despite more struggles by Mayfield would be a letdown considering how high the ceiling is for both quarterback and team and another non non-playoff campaign, despite strong play by Mayfield would be even more troubling, considering the talent on the roster this after all is a team that features six former pro bowlers on offense alone so seems as though they're saying. This team needs to make the playoffs and Baker. Mayfield needs to play well. Let's get into it here. With Adam Schefter and D would look at. My crew is ready to go here. David Pollack with me as well shefty. What sending you getting? Getting from Cleveland about their expectations there they make the huge change. The coaching change there, but they don't get really any offseason to speak of at least at this point, it's all been so unusual. What sense of optimism are you hearing out of Cleveland? What's amazing greenies if we go back one year ago, everybody was talking all about the Cleveland browns. The way they're talking about the Tampa Bay buccaneers right now. The expectations were so high in the Browns, disappointed as they usually have done since they returned to Cleveland and this particular case, they have faded off the radar and I don't think. Think very many people are talking about. They're talking about the MVP and Baltimore Lamar. Jackson Ben Rothlisberger. Coming, back, Joe, Burgoyne, Cincinnati. It seems as if all the attention that went to Cleveland last year is going to every other team in the division except Cleveland, which is the way I think. The browns preferred because again. This is a good team. It's a team that underachieved last year, and they made the changes they did to bring in. Chemists fancies the head coach, Andrew, very as the general manager, and let's not forget that the talent was in place to have a good season and I. I think this. Brown's team should be better than people think well. Yes, I do too, and if not, then there's really a problem because if you just look at the names on the backs of the jerseys and I just while you were talking, jotted down Garrett O B J, Landry, and who hunt Chub, and they're obviously many more David, it comes back to the quarterback. You obviously covered Baker, Mayfield, who had who had a a spectacular season, both literally and figuratively when he won the heisman. What were your expectations of him as a pro? And what do you think he is right now? What he is right now. If you look at last year, it was a big step backwards every statistical category you look at more interceptions. The touchdowns were less like he just the cutest quarterback rating drops significantly. So last year was a big. It was a big step in the wrong direction. Now listen. We also gotTA take into account. All the head coaches all the. The change all the turmoil that has to come into it, but Baker Mayfield has all the prerequisite tools around to be successful. You just named all the names on the back of jerseys. He has all the pieces in place. Here's well I'll disagree a little bit with the playoff conversation. We can talk about all the pieces in place Lamar Jackson has more Lamar Jackson. Jackson Squad has better. Are you going to be surprised? If Pittsburgh has better coaching than than the browns and his is a better outfit than the browns? No, so I is a huge year for Baker Mayfield to see if he's the future of the team, but I don't think it includes has to go to the playoffs, because the Ravens and the steelers have proven. Proven the last of teen years. How much better organization they are than the browns? That doesn't change in one year. What do you think that's an interesting way of looking at it? You'll be with me all season long. We'll be talking about this team every single week. What would they have to do for you to say? Yeah, this is a good year for Cleveland. Well. Listen I know that everyone was on the Cleveland, hype train last year because you know they got ob. Jay and all those type of things but I always say the name on the back of the Jersey doesn't change the culture the culture. It's like tournament tanning. You're talking about team that only just as recently. Two thousand seventeen was winless. And they've gone through three hand coaches in three years. It's hard to win when this constant change. Yes, there bird talented, but they're trying to overcome that type of coach a and also within the division where you have Mike Tomlin. John Hobart two of the best head coach that we have in our league. So that's what the Cleveland. Browns are up against I. Don't believe that they have to make the playoffs notre to. Be Moving in the right direction as an organization, but I do think it's imperative for Baker Mayfield to flip those interceptions around because he was atrocious throwing a twenty one interceptions last year if he does it if he replicates anything like that this year, then we're going to be talking about him in the same sentence as Mitchell trubisky, not exercising the option. That's exactly what I was GONNA. Go Sheffi that's where he will find himself next year. That's the three seasons as a rookie in the first round. That's one. The browns will have to decide really if they're gonNA. GonNa, make a longer term commitment to him in the way. That Chicago was decided not to do a trubisky, so it feels in that way at least like it is something of a make or break year for Baker Mayfield, and we're talking about the quarterback money going up again, and we're talking about rising with mahomes and Shawn. Watson Potentially Dak Prescott and so Baker Mayfield plays well. He's going to make huge money if he doesn't. Then it's going to be a huge setback for this organization, but the one thing about Baker Mayfield this having seen at the super. In January February. He did seem like last season humbled him. He did seem like he matured, and it did seem like he's ready to have a big year this year. I agree. We had him on the set there that day Schefter. You were there with us conversation with rex and everything else, and he seems like a guy who realizes it is time to put up and shut up where where people have heard everything he's had to say now. It's time to go out there and win. Some games I'm on record as saying I predict they're going to do it. The BROWNS ARE GONNA. Make the playoffs. We'll take a break. We'll come back the. Major League Baseball's owners vote to proceed with a sixty game season Mark Sharon next and what we will see the field, because baseball is comment, but I a little sneaky Hembo time and Bo insisted on a baseball question today. Who was the last player to hit four hundred in the first sixty games of the season? As the question, the answers next get up on ESPN. We are back, and while since we've had a baseball question from Hembo in this today is for our slugger mark to Shera. He go tax. GonNa play sixty games this year. All goes as planned. Who was the last player to hit four hundred in the first sixty games of the season? I feel like Hembo is trying to trip me up here. This is a trick question. I'M GONNA say it was last year. Cody bellinger. Okay actually I think he was trying to trick you because the player who it is is Chipper Jones in two thousand and eight and you were hitting. Behind him when he did it. So that I think there. You go why? He put it in their protection Greenie. All, right I. Don't know if you're paying attention getting meatballs. The owners yesterday voting unanimously to proceed with the twenty twenty season after the Union's Executive Board voted against the League's latest offer of a sixty game schedule with expanded playoffs. Jeff Passan joined us in our last hour and had this to say about baseball's return. This is finally a step in the right direction and. Of the players with whom I spoke last night, and there were a lot of them. Not a single one said. We're going to pass up this opportunity. We're not going to figure out how to get the self health and safety protocols. Taking care of this looks like it's going to happen now. We've been at this point plenty of times, but we haven't been this close to say that there is a schedule that is set, and they're just. A couple of small steps left so by five o'clock eastern today we should know me if in fact we can force certain say that baseball is going to be back. Remark it's only in in the world of baseball twenty twenty. Could the players vote something down and then that day all of a sudden, it feels like okay. We're the closest that we've ever been. It's crazy, but TEX. Yesterday we learned the two NBA. Players are opting out of that league's restart plan. Do you expect any baseball players to do something like that? I think that will be a few players that won't play for various reasons, but I don't expect a huge rash of players that are just GonNa say forget it I'm not playing this year, but what I do expect a lot of guys that come out the sore elbow or sore hamstring, sore knee, whatever it might be and play a few weeks unfortunately, because we don't have expanded playoffs, there's GonNa be a lot of teams that are out of the season before it even started, it's. It's going to be quick. It's going to be ugly and some players might say. Don't forget it. I got a sore back. I'm not gonNA play at all after the first few weeks, and that would be unfortunate, but I think it will happen. What a sixty games like baseball has always been a marathon this one year. We're going to get a sprint I myself am intrigued, but I don't have a real sense of what to expect. What do you expect it to look like? Well last week we talked about how I'd be really excited about sixty game regular season. If we had expanded playoffs now that we don't have expanded playoffs, it'll make the the regular season very interesting, because some of the best teams are not making the playoffs now, talking to you, l., A. Dodgers, fans and New York Yankees, fans and Tampa. Bay Ray Fans, these teams that have really great rosters that were expected to win out over one sixty two over sixty games. If you get off to a slow start, you're not making the playoffs so I do think the regular seasons can be very interesting. Unfortunately, we're going to see October baseball with some of the best teams at home. Everyone appoint at last year's World Series Champs. The Washington nationals were well under five hundred. When they got to the fifty game marker this season so clearly they wouldn't have made it. It's GonNa be something a little bit different meanwhile texts. You were part of the Union for such a long time. What do you think these last six weeks of really ugly back-and-forth bickering? Tell us about the future of this sport. We'll all you need to know. Greenie is that the players rejected a better deal last night that they said they're going to approve today. That doesn't make any sense, and whether that means they're going to file a grievance, or at least have the ability to file a grievance in the future. Just means the next two years. You're going to be really ugly between the. The players and the owners. We have a twenty twenty season. It's in doubt because of covid nineteen. A lot of players are unhappy right now. They're gonNA. Go Twenty, twenty one with the very low bar in free agency. There's a lot of free agents that are not gonNA. Get signed if I'm a free agent right now I'm very worried about the twenty twenty one. One season, and then after the two thousand twenty one season I have a new CBA to negotiate. It's going to be tough these you're going to be A. it's to be a rough stretch. Hopefully we get some fun with it this summer and obviously techs. You'll be along for that ride with us as often as we can do. Thank you very much for being. Being here this morning, meanwhile back to football on happy with his current contract, first team, all pro safety, Jamal Adams has told the jets. He wants to be treated. He did that last Thursday. The cowboys are one of seven teams. Adams would reportedly welcome being traded to in case. You haven't seen this on Sunday. He told the fan he's trying to get to Dallas. You coming to Dallas. So that was depressing, and then there was this after jet safety. Marcus, may tweeted I've been getting all this new fake love. Now. Shaking my head Adams, tweeted back brother, just keeping you show the worldwide. You're the best free safety and the game. You deserve everything coming your way. I'm GonNa Miss balling with you. The most believe that love you forever, so you've got that here. We asked you yesterday. As we bring our crew back in here for some discussion, look at D. would shake in his. Get you in a second big fella, but shefty any update here what? After another day of this, what would we expect to happen here with Jamal? Listen is great graders, Jamal Adams. Is this is a one sided conversation right now? The comments keep coming from him. Trying to get to Dallas could damarcus me on and on, but the fact of the matter is the jet stance hasn't changed one bit. They're not interested in trading him at this point in time. It doesn't mean they won't trade later on. It doesn't mean that some teams won't call the jets and try to make an offer to try to procure Adams, but the fact of the matter. Raise here that the jets are not looking to deal one of the best defensive. Defensive players in old football, who still on a rookie contract, who still has this year and the jets have a fifth year option and the franchise tag. The jets have contractual rights here and so it would be bad business for just to just move on from him, but I would say that. In recent seasons we've seen more and more players, exerting their will and getting their way, and clearly this looks like a case of another great young player, exerting his will, and tried to force his way out of New York at a time where the jets do not intend to trade him. They were I. saw you shaking your head? What do you think all this? Green I'm self as you know I. The jets closely mannion. Tamara Adams is the best players in the national football. I love watching them play. Every Sunday when the JESSOP playing, and just to see how this whole situation is deteriorating. It's just beyond baffling because when you think about the jets over the last ten plus years. They've had a couple. They've had three prototype guys. Jamal Adams did the real reebus and John Abraham traded to them, and now you got the other star Jamal. Adams who wants to be traded from the jets, though it's just unbelievable that the jets and Jamal Adams can't get this thing figured out and I hope they do because like Adam said that. The jets have contractual. They haven't for two plus years Hopefully they didn't get this thing figured out, but it's just embarrassing all the way around Tim and your experience, one player clearly wants out and the team, if the, if the justice of they're going to hold firm and tell Jamal if you wanna play in the NFL, you're GonNa have to play here and your experience. What impact does that have on the team on a locker room? What happens then? It can become a distraction especially if the players really disgruntled and start to become a problem, but Adam said this is a one way conversation really in it is right now. The jets basically are like look well. Why would we trade him? Think about it this way when you talk about what's left on his contract, the fifth year option plus the potential to be franchised after that you're talking about having Jamal Adams for about twenty two. Two million dollars over the next three years. If you are the New York jets, you better be getting a hun- in return the you know to be able to move on from Jamal Adams when you essentially have his rights for three years for that amount of money in everyone is right 'cause they talked about. How good of a player is so i? If you'RE THE NEW YORK? Jets basically need to talk to. You know Jamal's agent. You need to tell him to relax a little bit like we will do this. You know maybe a year from now, but like doing this right now makes no sense for our football team is shefty. The idea that someone's going to trade for him and then signed him to the money that he wants. What does it player like candidates and not non-premium premium position? I put that in air quotes because I don't like the term, but we saw what Jalen Ramsey fetched in a trade for Jacksonville. What what? What could someone like? The cowboys offer if he's trying to get there? Again it's going to take I. think a huge offer to pry him loose from the jets. It's not going to be just a first round pick. You'll be a first round pick and a second round pick. Maybe two ones jigsaw aren't moving in for anything less than a blockbuster off Greenie. Wait and see what happens. This is this is what constitutes fun when you're a jet Fan and we're working our way towards hopefully some sort of training camp as we continue the former. MVP remains unsigned shefty on the likely landing spots for Cam Newton. Continue next get up on ESPN. Back on, get up and CAM. Newton remains unsigned this off season. The former league MVP released by the panthers back in March. After the team failed define a trade partner, the main question of about Kansas, health, foot and shoulder injuries have limited his playing time the last two seasons and I feel like it's something we have talked about a lot lately. As guys are back here, chef y'all. y'All come back to you. Is there anything new with cameras? He tries to figure out what his football future looks like Greenwich. The closer we get to camp, and the more realistic it is for players to start taking physicals for teams. That's what we're going to start to hear. Something on Cam noon until that happens. It's going to be hard for a team to move and I think. Probably is adjusted and got used to the idea that he's not gonNA land the type of contract he wants. He's not gonNA land the type of open ended starting job that he wants, but I think there will be opportunity for him, but I think teams would like to see that physical. Get done I think that's going to get. Done as we get closer to camp here, the weeks of getting closer here and I think cam. Newton's time is coming here. Tim. What make sense to you as far as cams next move? Of Insane and I think it's the New England patriots, and you know I I've heard people say what? Hey, it's not really a match between Bella, check and Cam and the personalities, and that type of thing, but you know. Adam referenced to the market drying up a little bit I'm sure there's a bit of you know maybe. You know I guess you know humility that would come from this for Cam in terms of what the opportunities are in a chance to go to New England I. Think makes the most sense to compete with a guy like Jarrett's them for the starting job I, think people need to understand the production for Cam Newton. From twenty eleven to two thousand eighteen be throughout the twentieth nineteen season where he played. Two Games is absurd. He's accounted for two hundred forty touchdowns, which would put him only behind breeze, brady and Rogers during that stretch like he's. He's been to productive to just be sitting out there if he is in fact healthy now. This is a guy who if he is healthy is. Far better than the starting quarterback on, and probably at least half the teams in the NFL, if not more, what do you think happens next? Yeah listen. I think also think tim brings up. Grad grandee! What no! I think. Tim Brings Up a good point in New England also throughout Buffalo. Obviously Josh Allens Star up there, but if you look at what buffalo has on, clearly, they feel like they're the team to beat in the AFC. Won The best defensive national football, league and Josh Allen Cam New net similar stop. You're talking about two FIG. quarterback mobile big alarms You know so. They play a similar style. Some the brand of football and we know that the backup to the Josh, Allen Barkley who's not really in some of the motive Josh Allen. So we know that these starting quarterback position of dried up so if you're looking for a quarterback, that's possible in the same. Josh Allen. Why not pick a Cam Newton and see what happens I like that one I like that one a lot I'm going to leave. Leave it there because running out of time, guys, thank you all of you so much for being with us today bearing with us on what's been sort of an unusual day following Korean baseball and leading up to I is coming in just a few minutes here on ESPN, the NASCAR family showing support for Bubba Wallace. Steven A. and Max with much more on I take in just five minutes here on ESPN. Get up is brought to you by USAA proud supporter of the military community. What you're made of we're made for. And we're just getting started. I want will be a very busy day on ESPN all morning. Long I take is less than a minute away. 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Mason and Ireland HOUR ONE

"Yeah. Oh. Are you getting ready? To get your head around. The fact that your team is in the Super Bowl and three days you're going to be like whisking all I'm a little freaked out because I woke up at like four AM, and I'm like, holy I've got like stuff. Crawling around my chest and told you I took a bunch of that that what you take the emergency, right? Then I emailed my doctor and just picked up, a z pack. That's what you need. I don't even mess around. Yeah. Can you will your doctor taking Email for z pack. No, you have to go see him. No. But I can get one at the minute clinic. I mean a minute long as see my thing was I've had some of that lately. Yeah. You've a clue I couldn't go on antibiotics is I went on antibiotics when I broke my finger. Yeah. And I, but you if you haven't been on him in a while. Absolutely. Take them you'll get fine days. Yes. I gotta heavy. I am ready. Get out ahead of it. And and last night was the big extravaganza which used to be called Super Bowl media day. Yeah. Oy. Looked like a re I saw guys in some Brera Zai saw Tom Brady with a pillow with little heart on it. I swell the guy from barstool got thrown out. Oh, did they I think they were trying to get big canton Teague kicked out yet? They throw them out. I I understand it. They hate Roger Goodell. They don't get into the best parties, and they hate Roger Goodell and they've been like on his case clone, and I think that they somebody noticed them and that was it. But now now it's by the way, Mark Bernes going to join us coming up here in about fifteen minutes from Atlanta where the Rams flea in the Super Bowl Sunday at three thirty. Yep. I've been thinking about it. And you know, the Rams in the chiefs played probably the game of the year the game you were at the game. If five fifty one something fifty four fifty one. Okay. You know when the chiefs played the patriots. Yep. It was forty three. A forty New England. In other words, shootouts are now on both fronts, and boy, wouldn't it be great. If the Super Bowl turned into a shootout because both these teams appear to comfortable last year was kind of a shootout. Yeah. Thirty eight thirty five. Yeah. And even the year before was that the Atlanta one where they came came Ron. Over time. You went to T. So. Yeah. Boy, I'll tell you. I looked at the tickets. Yeah. Good crazy. Good. Good. Crazy. I'm telling you only go once you got to do it. Right. So I went on the show. So thank you very much to Kevin off in the Rams who hooked me up. But I went and looked to be connected. They're still super expensive. But right. I went and looked at what tickets in that section are going for. Yeah. Ten grand? Don't do it. Oh, no. It's no way. And how on don't you actually, I this is one of the few times? I actually believe you. I like I'd never believed when you said the few times you'd try and sell that you never leave games early. I know you leave games early Rams games. I don't know. Rams just games in general games. The Rams are leave the Lakers games at halftime. Totally caught to that. I'm a half first-half guy would actually I would of course, because I'm all about money. Yeah. I always say everyone has a price. Yeah. In this particular case, I don't think you do. I do not have I think somebody could offer you one hundred grand for your seats. And you would probably say no thought about I saw on the way. And I was like doing the math. I'm like, okay. So it's it's ten grand with the tickets. And I know, and I paid I subtract grant if you buying the cheaper price, I wound up making a whole bunch of money in the Super Bowl. But there's no way in hell. And plus you will never get seats that good. No, never and you don't wanna mess with. Arma right now. See like your Rams fan. You've been supporting your been part of the Ramle out of this whole time. The Rams karma hook you up. Good seats. You're going to be right there. And if and when they win it it'll be a memory you will as you like to say around here. Take to your grave my to your grand. Remember, I've had my heartbroken the last couple of times game seven of the World Series against Houston the Red Sox series. I was at all five of those games. Those didn't go well. So we're due for a championship. And this do you know how many times in sports history that the same two cities have met in the World Series in the Super Bowl in the same year. Like what's happening this year? We played the Red Sox World Series. Now, we're playing the patrons in the night. I'm guessing. No, none. Correct. This is the first ever that the same two cities have met in the World Series. And then four months later in the Super Bowl once we get Anthony. Davis Lakers, Celtics. All right. There's a lot to talk about with Anthony Davis. A lot of reaction to it over that over the let let me let me stand Super Bowl since we got Mark coming up. We'll roll into that. Anthony Davis stuff. What do you expect? What is your expectation of Todd Gurley? Do you think fifteen to twenty carries which would be somewhat normal? Yup. Do you expect it to be more like the championship game? When he had five carries any tag teams with C, J Anderson. I'm curious what what in your head? Are you thinking that the Rams are going to do with girly twenty-five touches either? Either carries carries touches the ball on the why why would they give him five in the championship game? And twenty five now, what's changed healthier? Something was clearly wrong. I mean before the NFC championship game, I said to McVay. All right. So what percentage healthy is Todd Gurley? He said you have to ask tot yesterday. I asked robber woods that same question. And by the way, I'm gonna ask Mark Barron. The same question what percentage healthy is Todd Gurley? And robber woods answer. Was he's absolutely ready to go. Not to me does that not indicate that he Southie. I hope so because you know, that would be some. But but here's the thing. His injury kept him out for the last three weeks of the season both in the Cowboys game. And in the saints game. Right. We got a steady dose of C, J Anderson. Why would that stop now? Okay. We'll think about it. They've had the the last two weeks he sat out. So that's two games three weeks. I think didn't you sit at the last three games. C J Anderson played last two. Okay. The last two so last two games then a buy week then the Cowboys game where he had limited touches then the NFC championship game limited touches. So he's had a chance to heal up. He said that injury was now six weeks ago. The original injury was now six weeks ago, unless it's still exists because you agree with me that there there is something. Oh, there's we are. We are being I won't use the phrase light to that's extreme. I would do exactly what the Rams are doing. If they said is if it's tiger Lee hurt, I would say, no. Because think about it in in football in particular. If you have an injury like you say, yeah, he's got a he's got a bum. Right. Knee. Yeah. Well, this real world people then the defense just zeroes in on his right smart to be cagey about it. Why would why why would we both agreed that it's something it's type of any that for whatever reason we can't figure. I mean, there's no way looking at it. There's no way that a guy with twenty all purpose. Touchdown. Scores during the course of the regular season, by the way through just fourteen games. Only sees five touches in the NFC championship game. Unless there's something wrong. There clearly has been something wrong. What I'm hoping for is that all of the time off and that this long break. Now, it's really actually if you count the week off it's eight weeks ago that he suffered that injury two months. The hope is he's gonna be ready to go and he's gonna be Todd Gurley. Now part of it is dictated by the fact that I mean, if if the patriots defense sets edges the way New Orleans did Todd Gurley is really a guy who likes to get out around the edge. He's not an up up the middle guy. And now that you've got a guy like C J Anderson who's a bowling ball who rolls right up the middle. A lot of those touches are not taken by Anderson. I think this is where the Rams diversity comes in on offense comes in handy because the book on Bill Belichick is he. Always takes away one thing like your go-to thing. Yes. If like, but what is that for the Rams? Well, like if Bill tried to take one thing away. What would he pick? Well on the Dallas game. They were in the hell on the ball right in the New Orleans game. They through the hell out of the break. I don't think the Rams have a they don't have a guy like gronk, for example. Right. That you could say all right. We're not gonna let like the saints. The the Rams defense clearly said, all right? We are not letting Michael Thomas beats. Yes, we're taking him off the borough the house out of if you were going to take someone off if you take Brandin cooks the board, then Robert woods and Josh Reynolds have a big. Yes, if you take Tyler higby off the board Gerald Evert as if you take girly off the board. Janitors and vice versa. You could target Goff and come after him. But if Gough if you come on the ball. You're on the time you run it. Yeah. That's one thing. The Rams at the best offense in the league for the first eight weeks balance. And now, I think that comes in hand. Yeah. They got a lot of balance or not and easy thing to say the saints. You could say Michael Thomas is is killing up now with the Rams there. They have no girly used to be like the thing. You would try and take away they won without girls. They won without him. And they won without him. Getting a lot of touches. All right coming up next, and Greg you say, I think. I think Mark Barron is Mark Sharon supposed to join us next. But I haven't gotten confirmation on the time next, and we'll believe. Also the same time. I believe yes. He's next Mason and Ireland ESPN we'll let into existence we are anticipated call from Rams linebacker, Mark Barron who is down in Atlanta the day after media melee, which is if you've never been to it is a media circus as I. It's a media circus here. Let's see. This is interesting. Whoa. Ge we commenced an investigation this morning upon reading the reports regarding Anthony Davis that processes ongoing one reason and on the record request for a trade by an agent or a player. Davis could be fine. I I wanna go back to this. Why Mark Barron twelve thirty. Okay. Why can't Anthony Davis say, hey, I wanna be traded without that constituting tampering. It's ridiculous. I why can't any player say whatever he wants don't we live in America, America, merica, American out. We can touch on this now that we know we're we have parents by the Anthony Davis thing I was thinking about a lot yesterday. And I read and listen to about everything my sense of it is it was podcast mania for me was me too. I listen to to Zach Lowe and Howard Beck, and Brian Windhorst and Bill Simmons. I didn't even know. I don't even I can't even name some of the people I listened to so. My sense of it is in the sense of most people that I listen to is it New Orleans has no incentive to trade him. Now that that they believe New Orleans believes that whatever offered the Lakers would make would still be there in the summer. Well, that's an interesting point. So I've been saying that Trump card in the whole thing is I'm Anthony Davis. And I will only sign an extension with the Lakers. I don't know if that spins said or not been said so far. Okay. But if he says that and Anthony Davis has an injury. He's as as I think somebody who who was on the show that said that might be a lingering injury. Maybe play won't play. Right. So what's the point of not making the deal? Now, why do you want your ex living at your how? Well, that's I don't think they're going to let him dictate when they trade him. In other words, that's what he wants. He wants to be traded to the Lakers. Now. That's obviously why he announced this weekend. There's no other reason that you why wouldn't you it? Why would you announce now does make sense? But here's the thing. Most people think Danny will be undeterred even if he announces I will only sign an extension with the Lakers because and gets them for a whole year. And you try the Paul George player, you try it. But you know, he's got the same agent as LeBron. Correct. Rich Paul is looking out for LeBron. And so that actually adds teeth to that threat and Anthony Davis just not only changed agents to Rich Paul, but just bought an eight million dollar house in Los Angeles this past offseason. And I just think there's possibility he wants to live here. So if you're the Celtics you take a tremendous risk if you put Jason Tatum in that deal to New Orleans, which makes their deal the best deal. They agree to put Tatum minute. But maybe maybe Anthony Davis comes out and says, I will only sign an extension with the Lakers. Then he doesn't put Tatum in the deal. And if he doesn't put Tatum in the deal, objectively, why is the Celtics offer better than the Lakers. I don't think it is. Well, if they don't put Jason a deal, it's not it's not better you've got to heavily protected or three heavily protected. I. Too heavily protected first round picks. And then the other one is pick in the Sacramento. The Memphis biggest top eight protected the sacrimento pick interesting if it's number one it goes to Philadelphia if it's anything else it goes to Boston. Okay. But Sacramento is going to be middle of the pack. They're going to be like thirteen fourteen. It's not great pick. And then the male cop eight protect Celtics pick is just north of twenty right? Okay. And then there's a clipper pick they're going to be north of fifteen. All right, right. That's protected north of fifteen right? So I mean in the only thing I heard is that the Memphis pick would be if it doesn't come in totally unprotected in twenty twenty one. But who knows what the world looks like in twenty twenty one or act? So there's a couple of things here. If you're the Lakers that are worth talking about. I agree. Your position is offer them everything. Right. Let them make their own to make their own trade. The cupboard is open del damps. What Alon I think? Most people agree with you. Yes. Let me play contrarian for a minute. Okay. Go right. And tell me if this is something you even consider all right? Davis announces he will only sign an extension with the Lakers. And as you put it before Rich, Paul is his agent. So this is a machine moving with parts bigger than just Anthony duress. It lebrons involved a dis involve clutches involved, then the Lakers say, we're not gonna overpay. They're not going to do your deal. The Lakers just say, look, we'll give you who we want to give you right, basically. We'll set the terms of the deal, not you. We'll give you a reasonable deal. But you can't have the whole cupboard. All right. Most people feel that the warriors are winning the title this year. No matter what are you one of those people? No matter what no no matter what. So. Anthony Davis is not a Laker this year. Don't you agree with that? Yes. Yes. Anthony davis. Not a Laker this year. No big loss because we only measure ourselves titles. Anyone right? Okay. Next year one year the Lakers don't get him. But they get somebody else this summer. They get kyri the warriors botched the clay situation. They get clay. They get another star to play with because I got the cap space. Right. Anthony Davis isn't part of this. So they got cap space now. Right. Okay. Okay. So what do they what are they gonna having caps as next year like a ridiculous amount of money? They're gonna. Max is coming summer the fort one max player and then another twenty seven million, right? Okay. So they give the one max player. Whoever it is kyri collide Durant all the guys in most people think we're not getting but you get one Kyrie is the is the latest flavor of the month kyri may want out. So you give that to Cairo retain Kyran LeBron. Okay. Right. And by the way, you know, that whole Instagram thing and the federal law, but no eight rewind, and no I d yet because you didn't off the farm then. You compete next year with kyri and LeBron and the Europe two that you get Davis for nothing. And you kept everybody you kept Lonzo and coups MMA and anger REM, and now you'd have to ship some of them out to make all the salaries were those remember what because you can you have bird rights on all those kids know, how does it work to get Anthony Davis in there? Well, you would you would either you can you can go over the cap to pay for your own guy. Right. You can't go over the cap to pay for rid of everybody. If Anthony Davis wants to sign is a free agent. And if he doesn't you go without you, see what I'm saying that that there's an order to this that makes sense to do it a different way the problem is you run into the Paul George scenario. Anthony Davis goes 'cause they're going to train them somewhere. Right. If you don't give them what they're asking for he's going somewhere else. And if he does he could fall in love Paul George did two years ago. Everybody thought. Ally was coming this different scenario. Right, but dishes is not this is not my stroke, Rich, Paul and LeBron James record straight and entertain the idea of when you call New Orleans, they say, all right. We want everything and the kitchen sink, and you just say, no, we'll give you a reasonable deal. But I would challenge the idea that you think you can get Anthony Davis under a cap after you've signed like, for example, if you signed Kyrie. And let's say that's thirty seven. Okay. Okay. So between him and LeBron you're seventy five right while you're at sixty seven next year K, but but if you sign kyri in the offseason, right K. To your at one hundred five and you can go over the cap to pay for young gun. Just what do LeBron and Kyrie cost? Just those two. Lebron is kyri thirty five. Okay. So LeBron is oh, I know where I'm not getting this. So I'm guessing it's somewhere in the neighborhood of seventy five. Okay. Yeah. It's thirty seven right. And Kyrie would be thirty five right? Yeah. Okay. Let's let's let's say seventy five in case where low okay, so seventy five just for those two guys the salary cap of one oh nine for this year. And no, no dramatic esscalation estimated to be one twelve for your follow. So then then if you wanna get the third star, whoever has Davis. Okay, because they've traded him by this point, right trade all the kids to them. Get Davidson under that deal. Writing. And then you're then your high. Nobody told me that will be mad. I don't know. But I do get the general drift of that. Yeah. So there's something to and we'll get by the way, we're going to be Mark bear next. Yep. And we'll get Michael in here at twelve forty five and we're going to watch through a bomb involving Klay Thompson to the Lakers that we will source out with Michael at twelve forty five. Super Bowl Mason, Ireland ESPN LA. Joining us right now from Atlanta a guy who's at home in the south. He started Alabama. And now he's going to start for the Rams this Sunday in the Super Bowl. Mark, barron. Online, Mark, congratulations, man, how you doing? Good. Thank you. Hey, it was curious about something you Alabama university of Alabama, of course, gets players from all over the country. They're the best football program in college football. You grew up in mobile. Did you even did you even consider going anywhere else? But Alabama or was that your dream as soon as you started playing when you were a kid. Actually. Yeah. Big consider going some other places and Alabama. It wasn't at the top of my listened. So my my crew process started, I started taking visits, and, you know, spending time with this stuff called saving in staff and just some of the players that was coming down with me, and I sent in love with. So let me ask you last night. You went through media day or media night. It looked like it was crazy circus kind of situation. What was it like for you? Oh, it was cool. It was cooled. I I it's not my first time then in a environment like that. Because I played in the two championships owes similar that probably just on a bigger scale. But it most definitely cooling something you wanna take in the pre show when you get to be a part of these Mark. I don't know a lot of Rams fans know that you were originally drafted by the buccaneers as a safe, and then you switch positions, which is very rare in the NFL you switched to linebacker. Most guys can't do it. Why do you think you were able to make a switch like that? And be so so successful at it. That is. Crazy because that was something that wouldn't even talked about when it happened. You know, our still plan B, and we had to enter that mom back in the tree. And they just wanna go still trying to find ways to give the fifth. I just do me and ended up working out on. I don't know. I couldn't say when I I mean, I'm I'm pretty strong. And I still you know, I can still move at my side. So I guess that had a lot to do it you like one more than do you like more one one more than the other? Like if they let you pick where you'd play would you play linebackers safety. They let me pick. I have the movement around doing. The one and that's used for a good part of my career of them. So like the last two or three years. So Mark, I'm all the Rams games on the season ticket holder. I love the Rams and one thing during the course of the year that happened was I saw the inability at times to stop the run. But if you go to the the game against Dallas and Zico Elliott if you go to the game against New Orleans with Mark Ingram. And now, the Kamara you really stuff them, really, really. Well, why what what changed? Honestly, I mean, we always been able to stop the mind we just weren't doing it. And that was because of lack of discipline, or, you know, you know, not trusting the guys around you'll be what's supposed to be when that's supposed to be that. Right. Not that's going on. We all need to plan for each other. And you know, we all know one face, and that is really that. We've always had the play stopped around. You know, just a matter of, you know, getting on the same page and plan for each other and trust in each other and being believe, and that's a team going to be ways supposed to be when he's supposed to be Mark. When you look at New England and you look at their offense. What makes them difficult to stop? Well, first of all you got Tom Brady one of the great one of the grades and not the great quarterback of all time. So that that that in itself is, you know, that's a creates a problem when you know, they got they got good backs, you know, versatile bags, and they got a trio back that can do, you know, many different things. So that's one thing. And then he got a good group receive. So I mean, I just got a complete offense. And all you know, you just gotta be ready for everything. Teammate, Nicole Roby, Nicole Roby Coleman who has been not been talking a lot. He's been very chatty down there in in New Orleans. Don in Atlanta, any talked about Tom and and getting older, and he's not the player that he was what what what do you think about what how Nicole is handling the week? If I ever got high field, we're gonna ride with and we seen. Scene. Everybody's I don't even know everything he said, but regardless of what he said, we're gonna out with them. And you know, we we gotta shows back. That's why we don't say that Mark that when when a teammate makes a prediction or both a little bit. The only thing you can do is get his back. Right. He's one of you. That's it. I mean, we believe we all believe it. It's not I you know, you can't go into the game question. Whether you're gonna win, and you gotta believe you're gonna land and and go out and play that way. So I mean, that's I'm going into this game that we're not going to lose thinking that we on those Mark Barron with us the great linebacker for the Rams and Mesa. I'm gonna tell you something that not even you know about Mark, Mark. Everybody knows that that when Todd Gurley got hurt. The Rams were very very thin at running back. They they went out and found C, J Anderson. He's been great Mason in high school. Mark rushed for eleven hundred yards and fifteen touchdowns. Mark. Did you ever say to Sean McVay? Hey, coach, I can go. I can do it. I can pull a Dion Sanders and go both ways did you ever. You know, what what I used to be on that? But you know, this job in dental manager. So I've been trying to focus on. Get back to myself and being able to do what I needed to do it my position. But usually, you know, if I'll feeling good, and and you know, I might be walking around fans something like that. But not not a lot. David on a great job. Well, even I've been reading a lot about Tom Brady uses his is a lot in the passing game. Does describe for just the average Joe fan. What that means? You were going to. But the whole the covers I'm on my baby. Trick on you know, with any type of disguise policy right through it. Another way uses is is only you when you off as on on defendant. You know, you could be looking one way planning to go the other way, you know, there's a lot of he plays one of the smartest way than a game. So, you know, I it's all type of thing you can do that size. I find for because a lot of defense looking right at his eyes and stuff. I keep you know, he can do a lot with his is if he's not enough, basically he's looking off for Cevers. Looking defended not looking receives looking after fenders. Yeah. Mark. Mark Barron is our guest linebacker for the Rams he'll play in the Super Bowl Sunday. Mark. You guys have had a lot of outs this year. They've had shootouts this year. Obviously you want the scored estate down. But is that what you intimidated you -ticipant? Both teams are going to try and throw a lot in this game. I feel that if they can get running game going outside run the ball and they came in the ball, and they don't have to go to the game. But I'm definitely not expecting the suit. I because family setting the suit out. I mean, I'm expecting play. Well, and I'm more definitely not expecting that. So and I'm talking about defensively almost ever not expecting. That's I'm not expecting out it all all right? Hey, listen, Mark. I will be there on Sunday. I can't wait for the game Gannon. We are so psyched for this. Thank you very much for coming on. And have a great week of preparation will see on Sunday. All right. There's Mark Barron. And boy, he's an interesting guy because he used to play safety in this particular game, you can use them to cover gronk, right? He's fast enough to cover tight ends. And he's big enough to tackle gronk and Wade likes those sort of hybrid kind of guys with Cory Littleton. The same kind of player that gives you that kind of Multidimensionality. I just made up that word multidimensional. Sure, it is do we could play word not a word again. You're always coming up with word. Hey, hey, hey, hey, it's Mason in Ireland and Michael Thompson just walked in never Michael's microphone. I never asked for Greg to get me a Cup of coffee. I'm a little running behind John Arlington a little under the weather, Michael drink coffee. If you're sick, you drink tea, you kidding me. I gotta be this for three hours. He does have caffeine. I matter of fact, I've been drinking a lot of the games because fighting something, and then I go home go to sleep, right. Yeah. You off Mike. How many did you not notice? I drink like seven cups of tea the last game. I drink a gallon the coffee fall right to sleep one. The way hole. Let's let's test that tesla. The new Tesla's have self driving feature in somebody told me the story the other day that a guy put it on and he fell asleep, and he was driving on the freeway and a policeman psalm and the only way they could pull them over was they surrounded him with police cars to slow the car down. They slowed him to stop and then they arrested. Well, okay. So can I ask you, then do you now understand autonomous driving? You now understand that some day. You will not have to drive their own car. I never do that. With you, Michael. I'm not I'm gonna let Mason try it for two years before. And by the way. At first when you call over bam. Going to just sit back in the car and just that guy. Drove all the way home without. Totally Christ it so the big the big story is Anthony Davis has demanded a tree forget about it. What do you mean? I got some bad news. You know, how y'all ins how everybody has these alternate jerseys. Yes. And you know, the how y'all is has that. Right. What does that mean? Nola nola. This is the one that going to unveil tonight. No LA why they'll turn into the Lakers. No, I don't think. So I think the pelicans going to be no elements, you just describing no apostrophe Ellie of exhibition. We're going to do that tonight. Yeah. I really. I think I think the public is going to be so stubborn over this sound like how the thunder were about. Kevin durant? All right. We'll we'll wait. We'll wait. We'll wait it out. The only way that AD is going to go where he wants to go. So if you and I can't say which team because your employees of certain teams, but the only way he's going to get where he wants to go where his mind set Mace. He's gotta turn into a jerk. Okay. We'll wait, wait. Let's let's just go back because I remember, I don't know month or so ago, I said what Anthony Davis needs to do is to demand a trait. He did that already. He's done that requested. Why do we assume? And by the way, Anthony Davis doesn't have to be a jerk. All has to be kind of has to step up to not in public. But in private rich. Paul just have is go Anthony's gotta go to not so much to to to management says look you can trade me to Timbuktu, I ain't signing near okay? Betta semi to where I want to go. You know, how Mary network like puppets right wing was who is holding the Mary Annette the would at the top. Isn't it? Anthony, Paul Nitz Rich, Paul Rich Paul and by the way, when it's Rich Paul. It's LeBron now Michael Hill's drawn is is pulling. The thing about your theory. Let's play it out. Let's say that Rich Paul says to New Orleans. AD will only sign an LA. That's it. Yeah. Multiple reports Dany wouldn't care. He would trade form anyway and the. Tatum. What I think he might do is then refused to potato in the deal. And if he refuses to put Tatum in the deal, I think the Lakers deal is as good as anybody and that you're drink, but I do want, Michael here's one thing. I do agree with you about I do not think after listening to fifteen people talk about this. I do not think that Anthony Davis will be traded in the next nine days, which is which is being stubborn by New Orleans. Right. I think that there's too that. There's too many things that new warlanes feels would play in their favor if they wait. Let's first what number one they get Boston in the in the mix, but they get forty Forty-six ideal. So Michael if I'm right, and they do not trade him the next nine days. Do you? Let him play. Yes. To just get out. Why? Because Davis wanna play for team. Yeah. He doesn't have to twenty rocket marketability anymore value. Why not pull a Levy on belt? I just don't think that would look good. So at this point if your employer will not so I've been in the spot. Yeah. Mason got the blue flu, right? I got the blue flu stop coming to work. I said my I mean, as my agent said, your your hair hurts your teeth, it you can't come into work. You know, what alternately I was able to pull the trick. And I was able to get what I wanted to in this particular scenario, I'll be Rich Paul be UB. Dell. Dell. Anthony wants traded. Well, that's nice. But we don't want to trade him. Okay. We are going to make things very difficult for you. I don't think you will because that's not Anthony's makeup. No. But it's my makeup. I'm not worried about you know, it's my makeup. I'm the one that's going to make life difficult. And I'm not afraid I'm not afraid to I'm agent, and I'm going to make life difficult for you. And I am going to struct Anthony not to play. I don't think we'll do that. I'm going to I am as agent. I am going to instruct him not to play except my premise, I'm going to start light. But that's not the Anthony Davis. I know he's too much of a competitor respect for his team. The Anthony Davis, you know, wasn't ever going to request to trade, and he's already done that. Why do you? Yeah. It's it is a situation where the pelicans control the pelicans control it and his left the room for some reason. Oh, because he couldn't ago she ate with Rich Paul. Yeah. He couldn't associate with Rich Paul what what Anthony Davis to needs to do is to be very definitive here. He needs to say, the only place I will play is the Lakers, right? We change it ended up stored. But it's it's it's just like like anything else the pelicans control it. And and does Anthony Davis not control it because I can't you do what I just said. Because the I if if I'm the pelicans, it's I control in for the rest of this year. And all I'm not playing the rest of the year. Okay. Players wouldn't do that. You can't do that. No, no. By the way, my finger may fingers are all messed up. I don't wanna risk screwing up my face. Here's what I would say to you. If I can jump in. You're not gonna play the rest here. Okay. We know what Anthony's value is in the market. Don't take it from here. That's great. Well, we're only playing for the Lakers. And that's the okay place. We're going to sign a long term extension and don't think we're gonna get comfortable somewhere else. I'm going to play with LeBron period. Okay. We've got it. You've got. Yeah. Okay. Good of luck. Best of luck. Finding someone else to take me. Okay. No players going to do that. Because people even suggest in Zion. Williamson should quit. Playing this year because he's basically if I was I William absolutely do that. Do that picking the draft. Why am I going to risk everything playing the eight see? Okay, hold that thought. And we'll get into the clay thing. Coming up next, Mason and Ireland ESPN LA.

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Hour 1: Sammy Watkins- Bust?

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Hour 1: Sammy Watkins- Bust?

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We will get it with the author who wrote it at eleven. Am Eastern Sammy. Watkins one of the Best College wide receivers. I've ever seen goes to. Buffalo is a bit of a bust goes to Kansas City. It works out fine and now he is giving opinions. That are really counterculture really unusual. I asked Chris Cody to give me a one sheet. A one sheet condensing the most interesting things in the article and Stugotz. What he sent me was longer than the article. He sent me so many details. So many bullet points that were longer than the article because condensing isn't a strength with him and also there's that much in there that's rich and different but we will get to that in a second. The first thing that we have get to is billy wants to celebrate house to God's owned all of Espn yesterday during a dry desert of content time. Potty rose up I also WanNa Talk to God's about how much trouble he got into it he. Spn forgetting Tom Brady but not going. Through whatever their proper labyrinth of protocols is because you know someone in the NFL department is having their head pop off because they wanted to ask. Tom Brady unimportant question. I didn't get into any trouble as far as I know because no one reached out to me not a single person. Nobody reached out to me about Tom. Brady yesterday no except for you. Mike Golic Junior. Mikey see and a couple of other people other than that. Not a pete are named about a half dozen people while saying nobody reached out to you but a Stugatz was offended that no one complimented him on while while also bearing his producer in questions about why it is that we got Tom Brady before mighty the rest of Mighty. Espn got Tom Brady. I will say this Stugatz was keeping it even for me because he was afraid that if anyone at ESPN got it that they would get in there and they would nuke the ability of stupidity to do it. I that was something that you are calculated and hiding it from. Espn and for me. I want to be very very clear. I am not offended that no one reached out to me yesterday. I am perfectly fine that no one reached out to me yesterday. I was expecting. Maybe someone one of our bosses to say. Hey that boy. Good Job Friday night. You stayed home you got Tom Brady. Of course we're all staying home right now but I was not the least bit offended that no one reached out to me and I did sit on news. I don't know the protocols okay. All I do is generate content and when my producer decides to relieve it. That's when he decides to release it. I don't know I don't know any of these roles again do you do you. Do you do know the protocols you know the rules. You say you don't know the rules in order to break the rules. I didn't realize the Hashtag one team you sent me was serious today. Regardless Billy's got billy's got some thoughts on ESPN and basically STU got yesterday dominating ESPN. The worldwide leader in sports finally reached the biggest platform in sports stupidity. Bigger THAN OPRAH BILLY. What were your thoughts as you saw this mushroom cloud on television it had me smiling from ear to ear just seeing and I understand that it's a desert right now and probably sportscenter will take just about anything. I'm surprised Greg Norman interviews. Didn't that up on sports at. But but I was really happy for Stu gods yesterday because the whole goal of this entire pirate ship is to use my obnoxious strident journalism credentials. So that God's at the end could be at the top of the worldwide leader in sports. Scurry up my back and plag- plant is flag stupidity which doesn't have a flag. It's just a poll in the back of my head because he has conquered all of the gas bags in sports journalism yesterday. Stugatz was on top. What were your thoughts? Billy still guts owned and like you said it was great seeing as uring. The clip from stupidity run all over sportscenter in everywhere. Now it's kind of a testament to what's going on right now that they were able to get a clip out of the bought anything and played at work. Because I don't know if you're the host body but it was a very brief interview now in terms of protocol. I think it was basically. It'd be stupid to your Tom. Brady is not going to be on. Espn anywhere so they're happy with just getting. Tom Brady is potty. Here's where I think that they did you wrong. Stu Gods if anyone else would have had a sit down with. Tom Brady and Chris to actually to a certain extent. They would've been on sportscenter talking about time with Tom. Brady Buddy was before he started. I mean anytime kinds interviews. Anyone that we're GONNA be like for myles Garrett say about this and that and no one talks to us about. Tom Brady was doing so in that. You know even Chris. Cody could have been sportscenter yesterday. Talking about his time with Tom Brady and they didn't ask them. I think that I am willing to take on this crusade even if it even if it means we are steamrolling meaning times where we are actively jealous of the amount of promotion and publicity that she is getting while nobody at. Espn helps us with any of that stuff. Like at all. No there's nobody. There helps us with any sub. Where are your biggest digital property with no help from you guys? I mean I spent a segment yesterday saying how I've learned more talking about football with meaning than anyone at the network wondering the Monday night. Football booth not a peep about my brady interview for. Miyakawa just that update nothing. No you're else. Do you have something else here. Billy or you just waving your hand in front of your face because you're backing away from the microphone because you don't want any part of my feuding with ESPN over meantime getting more publicity than we do. Let's just clarify this for a moment. I picked his name out of a hat there. That was a shot at me and use that as a screen board for you to be going after whoever over me to this sort of feel like a shot you said any. They interview at times interviews. Anybody they put her all over the net. God's Chris Oti. Let's just say that. Tom Brady landed on the wrong platform. Landed in the wrong hands. That fair and I'm okay with that. It landed in my hand and if that comes to the disappointment of many at this network I apologize. You Take Tom Brady. Get them where you get them. And I happened to be home Friday night when he was walking off. Some of the golf course and I was more than happy to spend seven Mediocre Minnesota. I Love I love the you describe it. It's so perfect that he won you over in seven mediocre two decades. The jets man Tony I'm sorry. I side swiped there by saying that. Bristol has given us no help. You've been a part of our show for many many months now Chris. What can you tell us about the Sammy Watkins Article? We're going to have the author tyler done on with us an hour but now that you've done all of the research and every paragraph is more unusual than the one before it. What were your takeaways from the article will it was a roller coaster of emotion. It starts out and you think this is a comedy act. I'm reading this. I'm like what kind of articles is going to be. You read the first couple of paragraphs and you're like okay. This is. This is a comedy walking saying that he keep possibly playing football as a horse as a dog as a dinosaur. So I'm like okay. This is going to be fun and Wacky and then it gets a little sad and then he talks about how depressed he was. How many was in Buffalo? He's drinking every night literally every night. Just very depressed and then and then he finds himself. He spent six months just in a in his room. Not Talking to anybody studying religion he can find and then he comes out on the other end. And he's found some Spirituality that has led him to a path where he's happy. He's he's all. His teammates love his energy. He has a relationship with Andy Reid he was very like. I'm just GonNa keep going the articles crazy. And then he talks about his his contract situation with the chiefs. He's very open is demands and I it took me forever to read it because it's the longest article ever but it's very interesting. It seems to have ended in a place where he's found himself Put It on the Pole Guillermo at Lebatardshow. Would you drink every night if you were in Buffalo at Lebatardshow Sammy? Watkins believes in reincarnation any searching and you know that I love the eccentric guys. I love the guys who are willing to be out there with their vulnerability one of the things I want. Get into with you guys in the next segments to God says the Jerry. Seinfeld has a new special out and it's really testing the boundaries of what I have said about comedy not aging. Well he's sixty five. It's surprising to see him. Be Able to literally be on the floor physically and get off the floor quickly at sixty five years old to do this comedy routine and of course it now has its haters and its detractors because surprise putting something creative in the world risks not everyone applauding in fact. It's kind of the point. I don't know there is no courage in criticizing the creative. There's only courage in creating the creative and then trusting that vulnerability over to others but I wanNA talk about what I have seen of Seinfeld special next after you update people on what's going on in Sports. Geico gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven which means that. Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you like your wife when you forget your keys at work and you get my texts. I am looking for the spare house key. Maybe I can get through. The window. Turns out the alarm works how it works fast. You should probably call me back. 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A lot of people have since we started. And we're on our third contract so it's it's sort of the design of what it is that we're doing here where. I get to be the unpopular one and you guys get to grow everything around us in a way that makes it very lucrative for STU gods again like I said at the end he gets to plant his flag at the top of the mountain and gets to celebrate because he is defeated despite general lack of morals and a bankrupt spirit of intelligence. Begging them more grady. Though I haven't that we asked Bhai alias at Jim Jones put it on the poll as well at Lebatardshow Guillermo are stand up comedians brave. Because I WANNA get into this conversation. It's not something I can do. I find it. I find it admirable. I'm all by good. Stand up comedy as much as I am amused by it because people are willing to get out there and after many months of sculpting whatever it is that they're doing they're expected to be funny and that is a really hard expectation to me but before we do that weirdly. Mike Ryan wants to object and strongly. I think because he spent the entire break chirping at me about it on the idea that Sammy. Watkins is a bit of a bus. Yes quote. Dan Lebatard Sammy. Watkins was a bit of a bust in Buffalo and Dan allow me to strongly provide a meager defense. Can you do that for Sammy? Watkins signed in buffalo just under a thousand yards his rookie season over one thousand yards in. Just thirteen games following season then. His final season buffalo only plays half a season as you know. His time in Buffalo was spent with bad quarterbacks and fighting through injury. We'd never really sell a fully healthy Sammy Watkins. I think ever bad season considering all the injuries and then they declined his option. That's point four when you're arguing bit of a bust however traded to the rams fetch as a player and a second round pick. He and he's six round pick. Go to La on aggregate. That's basically a first round pick and a lateral move in terms of investment. I think you're wrong about it on the poll an Lebatardshow is it fair to call Sammy. Watkins a bit of a buck. Oh I agree with you on the whole though because he could never stay healthy and Sammy. Watkins will do this. I think we have to look it up. I think he got like fifty percent of his receiving output in that first game against Jacksonville where he had like three hundred yards and then everybody rushes to the waiver. Wire and lets everybody down. I know I speak for thousands in our audience that have played the Dangerous Sammy Watkins Game. On a Sunday and fantasy summertimes credible wrote catch zero. Jabor more than often. It's one target now. I'm sure he does a lot in terms of taking the top off defense. We saw Deshaun Jackson. Do that. With bad quarterbacks all the time and him still getting big contracts even at his age because it's invaluable but damn if it isn't frustrating when you need them and fantasy Guillermo also put this on the pole. Are you stunned by how vigorously Mike Ryan felt the need to defend Sammy? Watkins it's not even the thing that Mike Ryan is most excited about Stugatz. He's most excited about Arnold Schwarzenegger because as we've talked about before Hollywood just keep remaking the old stop Arnold Schwarzenegger's turn making his return in his mid seventies evidently and reportedly to his Predator franchise. If you could call it a franchise given a Predator too was one of the worst movies ever may missing the best part though about coming back to Predator. You're thinking this is just another lame Hollywood reboot. It is Kinda but it's a video game. Dan Dutch in his prime. I'm getting arnold signing off on his likeness and his voice to a Predator video game in which I don't have to be sad what I'm sitting in a cinema because Oh man. The Terminator has white hair now. How does the Terminator Age o? Christian Bale is fighting a very poorly designed. Cgi version of Arnold Schwarzenegger because it doesn't make sense at Terminator Camberley Age. And then they try to make up for it in previous in later movies because Arnold agent. He's decided to come back into cinema after true story becoming the governor of California. I am so excited for this video game. This modern call of duty modern warfare style shooting game instead of shooting people. You shouldn't predators Dan and you're shooting them with Dutch. Are you back on the caffeine? Are you back on the something's wrong? I mean it's unbelievable. How manicheism just shoeing on his bottom teeth than scaring me a little bit. I've been up since five. Thirty A M producing content nonstop. 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I been inside for so long that I am willing to go down just about any path. I am not ruling out. What's Emmy Walk into telling me in terms of dimensions and knowing things and we're constantly dying and coming back to life? I am not ruling anything out at this point. Agai it's all on site Thank you for saying it. Do you have any idea what you said when you said that. The article had the right urgency. I felt like it. You know whatever Sammy was saying I feel like the author wrote it in a way. Just words yeah. Just they were just to say very good tyler done is going to join us at eleven o'clock eastern billy. What do you have for me on this subject? Did you just feel bad for Stugotz? Because Billy I gotta be honest. Your face is a helpful Q. For me in terms of whenever you make a face like if you've smelled something bad it makes me extra. Listen because I want to. I want to remember what it is to got said. I'm curious was that reaction to Stu. Gods saying the article had the right. I don't even know what that means. I feel bad during this. You which gives me permission to review. I don't believe that he read. It might theory hinges on the fact that he did a reply. All to the email where you ask for one sheet asking for to send them the same one sheet which would mean that. He didn't need to read it right while. So that's that's a fair point. I've earned that billy but I read it last night. Retention is not a strength and so I knew I was gonNA need that. One sheet does a refresher from Chris. Now christus rewrote the article. So it's not really I don't WanNa read it again but I did read it so I mean and I'm telling you right tempo. Proper amount of urgency other than good of the right. I had okay very good so anyway. Just words words words also words and words and words and words in advance auto parts and words. The thing that I wanted to get into here with us to God's because I felt bad for someone yesterday and the baseball discussion happening right now. It's interesting to see the owners of baseball. Who Don't actually get to play games. But they're games are negotiating contracts. Their Games are winning at business to sort of change around their original proposal in order to make the players look bad for possibly causing a work stoppage while they're bred lines and unemployment rates are historic and it feels like the Great Depression. The baseball players. Look greedy. This is how the owners play this game. You don't have to take a side on this one year allowed to say well. The owners are losing their fans so they should ask for. Pay Cuts the way the Governor. Cuomo is telling him to take pay cuts and I understand if you said that I would get if you would protect the business owners. Right to protect the business. Even as I don't understand and won't ever understand why so many of you end up calling the player selfish while you yourself are being selfish wanting baseball back and while you yourself for Labor and you don't side with Labour but here's why I felt bad for your Buddy Mark Sharon. Did you see what happened to him? whatever all right so to share it comes out and he says publicly. I think it was on get up. He says that he thinks the players should play for pennies on the dollar and this of course is going to be met by the sports fan with a great deal of applause but it might not be met by the player with a great deal of applause for example brand McCarthy. This is the problem when you do the thing that makes everyone pay attention when to share a says. The baseball players should play on pennies on the dollar that they basically should inherit more risk and less money more more health. Risk AND LESS MONEY BRANDON. Mccarthy reminds you by going through to share his history. He reminds you was is by twitter. Tex was quite possibly the most pro union player I came across in my career and then this is what Mike sure the creator of parks and REC and a huge baseball fan says and this is the part that made me feel bad for to share to share was drafted in hundred ninety. Eight asked for too much money turned it down then. He was drafted fifth in two thousand and one would have been fourth but everyone knew he was asking for so much money. The phillies didn't even bother. Then he made two hundred thirteen million dollars so sure. This is all fine of course but also zip proving yet again that there is a little stugatz in everyone. I'm so so when this happens. Your thoughts are what because it's real easy for him to tell others pennies on the dollar when he's no longer playing and he's already made two hundred and thirteen million dollars worth of pennies right now. I listen I know. Mark friendly with more mark was also never faced with a pandemic like this so I have no earthly idea how he would respond it or how we would've acted had he been faced with a pandemic like this and in terms of the money that he asked for listen. You don't know unless you ask but I will say this okay. We'll say this any major league baseball player. Who does that WANNA play for less money? Who DOES NOT WANNA risk health and harm to his own to his own body at does not want to leave his family or loved ones behind to go play baseball for our amusement and our enjoyment. I'm totally fine with that. Totally okay with that. Just accept the other side of it. You're not going to get paid it terms of playing for pennies on the dollar. No if you're going to play baseball they should pay you properly for playing baseball in the middle of pandemic putting yourself at risk and leaving your loved ones behind to do so if indeed that is the case I do find perpetually interesting the way this stuff ends up going Stugatz because you've got the Illinois governor saying. He's disappointed with Major League baseball players holding out for more money when quote. Everyone is sacrificing. And I just think that this ignores in a way that is really borderline intellectually honest that these people are partners on collectively bargaining their contracts if the people in our audience had leverage they use it like if they had a choice if they had the privilege of partnership with their bosses. They'd use it but most of us don't have that privilege we love to take it away from others though. I'll tell you somebody else. I feel bad for next. If you missed any of our interviews please check it out on demand and the Dan Lebatardshow podcast brought to you by capital one. Why SETTLE FOR AVERAGE WITH CAPITAL ONE? You could open a savings account with five times. The national average welcome the banking re imagine capital one. What's in your Wallet Capital One and a member? Fdic Stan van. Gundy going to join us at eleven thirty eastern Bret Michaels from poison. Going to join us at twelve thirty eastern and tyler done You're not gonNA WANNA miss this. I don't the author of the Sammy Watkins Article. That has everyone talking. Today is very rare for someone to give an interview in sports while they are playing where they give voice to a whole lot of unconventional beliefs and then allow everyone to judge them but clearly. Sammy Watkins is on a bit of a search for meaning in life and that is not what Guillermo is doing at the moment because he just spent the entire break and I always love when gear discovers anything. He just stick discovered stugatz. Just now just Just last night. The expendable 's movies. It's not something that he was familiar with it all now. Billy is the biggest advocate. We have around here for fastened fast and furious. And you would say what on. Behalf of the expendable now. Now that it is that you've discovered the expendable first of all the fast and furious is art. So that's not even in the same discussion. Now the expendable is I was familiar with but I had not seen and I decided when coming across the mainly because A bit of a thrifty guy and these movies were available for free and I'm all about getting up the free movies right now so I found the expendable all for three so was gonNA check this out. I don't know how third three of them. I've only seen the first one but while watching the first one I've felt ripped off that spoiler alert by the way. If you haven't seen any of those like ten years old arnold was in it and I thought he was like a big player in the movie and I quickly find out. He's in it for about two seconds. Then he's gone and I'm like okay. We'll run into him later in the movie. They can't be a right. No that was it that was it. Just one cameo in the church. Where we have to call Bruce Willis Mr Church because they met at a church which of course then Drago and rocky. You're fighting together right. Did I miss something? That's Drago and rocky fighting together. Are They not real enemies? Well off their enemies off that scrammed contentious relationship in this one at Drago obviously betrays rocky and then rocky shoot struggle which does not Iraqi thing to do to have a gun and shoot drago right and he shoots up with a couple inches of his heart at Drago dying and then rocky tries to turn it on him because Drago betrayed rocky I and rocky tells them. Hey don't die bleep bleep. Just tell me what the plan is to get me and like. Is he the BLEEP HERE? Because you just shot him at. You're killing him like he's dying he's about to bleed out and now you want. Drago to be your friend after you murdered him at what they did. I mean we don't need to get into it any throw. I feel like we've gone far enough. This is where you're exercising restraint interesting that this is going to figure out if we did this movie. In Two thousand and twenty. We have jet Li fighting in a place for only jet. Li's tall enough to fight drago like that was a little bit sketchy. I thought there on the line. And then when they got out of like the local Because they were building up to that the entire league for your social your social your social your show short and then they have fighting under a stairwell will. Drago was too tall and that. Drago got him out of the stairwell just started pounding him when he's like. Now it's my turn or whatever it is at. Drago said the Jet Li. It was just a whole thing. Okay very good. Are you done now because you said you were done a few paragraphs ago that you didn't think Dan is at the movie? Seems to drag drag much like my recap of the movie and I was trying to figure out what is is exactly building up to and then Terry Jeffords you know gets this big bomb and he throws it in the air and then they shoot it explodes. And that's the whole thing Terry. Crews that is like that. Was the big payoff. I could not believe that. They made three of these movies now. Mike it's two guys told me that it gets better after the first one because the first one. I don't deserve two sequels after did it. Okay thank you for all your contributions billy. I regret all of them. The expendable 's is not strong when it comes to subtlety John Claude van Damme. When he's in it his character was a villain but you would never know it from his name Ville Lane. The Lane was his name. Because he was villain. You objecting to three expendable. When you love all four hundred fifty four of the fast and the furious movies what are you shaking your hand at me for. What is it that you want to say now is if you haven't said enough to contaminate and corrupt this segment as we previously discussed art? That's different category. They had like this plane that they fly and they were landing on this island. That's how they were sneaking in and out and it said like oh of something about like animal rescue on the side of it. You have these three guys massive coming out of the plane and I'm like no no we're just gonNA take pictures of animals like case your come on in. Oh probable adding what happened to. I don't want to get into this anymore. It was such a such a better time in my life when you simply bailed on the entirety of the segment instead of doubling down on it yesterday got Georgia and seventy five million dollars at the box office. Stunning stunning people are stupid. Tyler done author of the Sammy. Watkins article is next.

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