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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

03:25 min | 6 months ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"How did you make the switch from historical to science fiction Oh that was easy by the historical The market for historical fiction in the united states completely collapsed About may of nineteen eighty two. And so what i plan is attend book series became a five book series And so i spent a desperate six months writing proposals for things that didn't sell And it was across the spectrum. I've read proposals for mysteries for historical Spent not for science victory A and everything but category romance. I think and And none of them sold. And then science fiction proposal that i had written some years before so and so i became a science fiction writer and the science fiction proposal had been bouncing around a publisher to publisher without being read I it's kind of a fascinating saga. But i was probably too long for this interview But certainly explains how publishers can screw up repeatedly and landed at tour books and the editor at that point jim bain and there are only three people in the office there was time dougherty who was the publisher jim in the editor and then those misses dorothy who ran the was the accounting department And now tories. The largest science fiction publisher. That doesn't run like that anymore. But jim bane read the proposal i bought it and it and although it had been on the markets or two or three years it actually sold to the first editor who read it. How did it not get rid at the other places that it had been Well there was a lot of mergers going on in publishing as there is now And so you say it. I don't call the exact sequence but you know it was sent to eight and susan. Allison who was the editor at ace left ace to go to berkeley. And until she was replaced they put buying hold so then it came back and then it was sent to berkeley and the decision house at berkeley and and then berkeley acquired as and suddenly they had too many manuscripts sitting in the office. So another buying hold wet. And then it went to david hartwell at times scape and it was lost in the mail room for about six months and by the time that was discovered they had put a buying hold on and and so it just kept bouncing off of these things till it actually went to an editor who still had a publishing schedule to fill up. That must've been satisfying when it finally sold rate really relieved because i was beginning to look in the help wanted section of the paper so that i could make my rent and suddenly although it has to be said that the science fiction sold for a lot less money than the historical fiction here so i was It took me a few years before. I i could reach my former miserable standard of living from from where i was merely tour instead wretched poverty. Yeah i can

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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

04:30 min | 1 year ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"Once there was a finished draft. I can remember who set up the some. Said olive riders really want in a review is twelve single spaced pages of closely reason to praise. I mean, I. Will Say I, have gotten some reviews that had critical feedback in them that I did actually find useful. The one that particularly stuck with me because it was such a simple thing. There was a review of Dabo Ganger when it was first published when it was under that title where the reviewer commented on me over using Italics for emphasis in things that I looked at the text, there was like you know your. Way of since very dialed back by italics. Prone to ellipses. ELLIPSES, semi colons, MD ashes, even colons which are really not much in fashion in twentieth century fiction but spending about five years writing like a Victorian lady had some bad infants pros. I WANNA use all the punctuation. Thank you very much. Just because you mentioned rook in the roof and rows and I realize I kind of over one step, which is characters. How do you find the characters for your stories and? That is very much an organic back of the brain process for me I'm not the sort of person who sits down and consciously constructs like, okay. Let me figure out like go through a questionnaire on create the character The the part of the process that does get a little more conscience is I will try to prod myself out of certain defaults about like gender, sexuality, ethnicity, etc, and say, well, like whatever I default to maybe I should try to do something different just be aware of that and make sure I'm not doing the same thing over and over again but characters are kind of a sub-conscious gestalt thing for me I I don't get emotionally invested in them. If I construct them in a very logical sort of way and I need them to in a way. I, I need them to be able to surprise me. Because some of the best moments in my stories tend to be the ones where I didn't plan that it was just the moment where I'm in the middle of writing scene and the thing that I intended for the character to do there's just kind of this feeling of no, that's not the right thing. The thing that they would do in this moment is this other thing and that invariably is actually the more interesting thing to have happened rather than what I had planned and this doesn't mean that I wind up with random things sometimes like why do I know this about that character like this isn't even relevant to the story, but just I am sure of that fact there's An incredibly minor character who shows up and I think one scene in the third on escort book where he's Gay I know that he's gay why do I know this I.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

03:58 min | 1 year ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"I, think my edit letter from David was like half a page. It was really brief. She did not want a lot of changes made where's Priyanka Christian and WHO's the one we're working with for roses very much more hands on really getting into the tax she asked for us to. Add in a couple of scenes to flush out certain things with the relationships in the story and I also wound up writing some new material for turning darkness into light the sequel to the memoirs not because Miriam. Weinberg. The editor for that one specifically asked for it but because she had concerns about this one flashback that was in the story which her suggested fix for dealing with that flashback, I was like Oh that doesn't work for me for XYZ reasons. But the underlying reason she'd suggested that was that the flashback felt jarring that it was like this one moment where it stops being kind of the present day of the story and goes to something that happened five years ago. And so when I talked with her I said. You know I could flush out some other things in the story if I gave a couple of the other characters, similar kinds of flashbacks what do you think of that and she said, yes, that works fantastically. So we were able to solve that problem by basically making that be not the only time the narrative jumped out of order like that, and it ended up assisting a bunch of other things that could use some like complexity kind of jump straight to the editor. But there are many authors who will take an intermediate step of Beta readers or people like that. Is that something you've ever done I I'd never think of it because I've never done it but I I I mostly haven't the sort of. Stepping stone exception is, let's Helms. The mentioned working on Rick and rose with. Has Been. Essentially. My Best Writing Buddy sends the two thousand and when we met. Because we think enough about think enough alike when it comes to writing and how we approach stories that. I usually, it's not a finished draft. It's like I'm halfway or three quarters of the way through a book and I'm stuck and so I would fling the manuscript it lists going help me. And, they would read through what I had and we would talk it over and they would help me figure out how to proceed with the rest of it..

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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

05:56 min | 1 year ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"Though in college I had the ability to stick on headphones and work on a novel while my roommates for sitting three feet away watching TV I've lost that level of focus I think. Fast writer or slow writer. Really. The answer to that question depends on who I'm being compared to us. So I, guess, middle of the pack in the grand scheme of things the mouth that all do for how long is it GonNa take me to write this novel is that I average about a thousand words a day which some people think as fast. Some people think is slow for me that Tyson partly with being more on the figure it out as I go along kind of writing I've found by trial and error that most of the time a thousand words a day is the pace at which I can figure out my plot like I'm laying track right ahead of the train. And at that pace, I don't run out of track usually if I tried to go faster. All all basically right myself into a corner though I will go faster if I hit a stretch where like Oh yeah I know the next several things that are going to happen it's just a matter of getting through them then I will speed up Different streamlining truck on the prairie and laying track through. North of Lake Superior as the. To say the rocky mountains for what came to mind for me. That goes on there are some rocky mountains stretches where it is slower But then when I listen, I, were drafting the first of the. Rose books. We basically did NANNO Raimondo for four months straight. We wrote a two hundred thousand word novel in four months. And that was in part because swapping off between us made the work field lighter. It wasn't like we were each doing half the work but we help keep each other's enthusiasm up and like one of us might have ideas on the other was stuck. But also because we had to plan it so much that when we had plan, it was like well, is there any reason we shouldn't right two chapters this week? No, let's go. Once. You have whatever your first draft looks like. What does that I rapped look at something that takes a lot of polishing and revision what religion process like. no I started off and still a mostly on the end of relatively clean first drafts. Now I. will say in the early days the relatively clean first drafts were in part because my revision skills weren't well developed. I say not even really jokingly that of the basic skills you need to be just like a competent writer who can be submitted your work somewhere the last one I acquired was finishing what I started So on the level of like pros and characterization, and so forth like I. I had those down before I had down the ability to have a complete story but I definitely got a lot better at revision at being able to see where it was possible to change things rather than feeling like it was kind of this fixed text in my mind I've gotten better at being able to pull things apart and rework them for overall benefit. So I, do more revision now than I used to but also somewhat prone to doing chunks. Of that revision while I'm still drafting so I still frequently will wind up with a pretty solid first draft by the time that I'm done as opposed to people I know where the first draft is like that's where they figure out what story there actually writing and once that's done, they go back and write the real book. So I'm not on that level of changing things I I. Guessed on here was Robert Sawyer whom I've known for a long time and he was quoting Edo van Belgium I think another Canadian writer..

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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

03:15 min | 1 year ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"From the moment that I began publishing driftwood short stories, I had people asking me they taught the setting was great and they're like, will you ever do a novel there and my answer was no because it felt like a novel was the wrong thing for driftwood. Fragments About Incomplete Lake Bits and pieces, and a novel is a big coherent singular thing. But then when the idea came of doing it as this kind of mosaic fix up novel sort of thing that's really appropriate for driftwood that it is something which is made out of smaller pieces brought together, and so the the form of what I'm putting out reflects the thing that it is describing in an interesting way form follows function. Well. This is the point at which I ask how you go about planning things but. It sounds like this sounds a little different. So let's talk about what you're planning process look for making this fix up but also what it's more typical for you in one of your novels. So I've I've had some changes happen without over time like I definitely am naturally more on the end of being kind of a discovery writer or Pancer is sometimes people will say which is that all start off with okay. Here's a character in a situation where the problem let's see what they do and I just kind of right my way through it. And that is more or less how I've written most of my novels all usually at least by the time I'm partway through have some ideas of things that I know I want to have happen later on and the metaphor the all use is there's this big field in front of me. And I need to get to the other side of it and I'll go out there and I'll hammer a couple pegs into the ground at various points and say okay like halfway across the field I need to be over here and then kind of figure out an interesting path toward that peg on my way there. So a lot of the in between stuff is very much. Make it up as I go along. But. It does vary because obviously with driftwood that was something where I didn't have pegs as entire chunks of field, there were already popped. The interesting challenge there was figuring out how to sequence them because the stories had nothing in them saying what was the order in which they had happened? They've got a unifying thread, which is there's this guy that everybody just calls last because he is the only survivor of the world that he comes from. His world is long gone. He should be dead. Keys around he appears to be immortal. And so all of the stories have people interacting with last for one reason or another, and so he actually also becomes the unifying thread for the novel for the book. But it meant I had to go through those stories and figure out more kind of on a thematic level than a plot one. What was the effective order to put them in with the different kinds of moods that the stories had and what was the reason those stories we're being told at that moment so there was a lot of. I printed stuff out very, very tiny so that I could Kind of arranged them all on my floor and move the stories around looking at them and trying to get a feel for what was the best flow between them. And then the far end of the spectrum There's this trilogy that have been writing with my friend lists Helms where. Because we're collaborating, I can't rely on my usual thing of I've got this vague cloud in my head that sort of evolves as I go along and I- solidify bits of it..

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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

05:25 min | 1 year ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"That you see in folklore So it's kind of neat to look at it from that direction because then it's not Oh, my God this is so derivative it's what's different in this variation and what does that difference tell us what's interesting about that? When? Of course, token console idea was to create A. Kind of mythology, northern Europe mythology exactly and he was drawing on all the stuff that he knew. He knew a lot. So right? Yeah. You can certainly trace things to his inspirations for his fits but in a way, it's very appropriate that people then went did a bunch of remixes of Lord of the rings because that's exactly what we do with mythology. Now, you studied as you mentioned archaeology and folklore and all of that. ANDROID undergraduate studies. But somewhere in there you decided writing was the thing instead of what you've been studying all that time. What Ruppert that about why did you make that that choice? So it happened while I was in graduate. School. Just as I finished up like I continued writing novels all through college and early Grad School and just as I finished up my coursework in. Grad. School. I actually sold my first novel. which meant that basically writing moved from being a hobby to being an actual paying job right at the point when I lost that daily engagement with academia. So a couple of years went by in which I didn't really make the progress I should have towards like doing my qualifying Ebbs and putting together a dissertation committee of. And I had actually started writing the Onyx Court series which were written midnight never come and I was about to do in ashes lie with then the intent of doing to others and I D- possibly deluded myself who knows that I was going to be able to write novels while also writing a dissertation but writing research-intensive novels while also writing a dissertation seemed more difficult and honestly at that point. It's a time honored thing to be a professor and a writer at the same time but I could kind of tell that like the dissertation and the job hunt for your kind of entry level academic positions. That was going to eat a lot of time and energy in a way that I was worried was going to be detrimental to the writing career that you know here I have this thing that is ongoing and making money not huge amounts of it but money. And I didn't want to like hamstring my writing career in order to do that but if I wasn't going to.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

04:16 min | 1 year ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"All right. I. Promised I was going to finish something for the next meeting. So I guess I'd better finish that and that was very good for my productivity so that actually led to me finishing my first novel rather than my previous link had been unfinished novel that was all I ever road. I finished my first novel. I wrote the bulk of it the summer after my freshman year of college finished early my sophomore year and that really got the ball rolling because that was the point at which I got serious about writing and it stopped being a Oh. Yeah. Theoretically someday, I'd like to be a writer and started being okay I have a finished novel. How do you submit those things? What was it that specifically drew you to the science fiction fantasy. I mean I was always interested in that kind of thing, and with regards to college I tell people that I didn't actually pick by major by saying what would be useful to me as a fantasy writer. But that's kind of the fact that it wound up having my studies both in graduate I did archeology and anthropology and folklore. which is all great stuff for fantasy writer and those were always just the things that interested me. I liked reading about the past I liked reading about other parts of the world I liked reading about mythology. Yeah. It was all just that's what I liked from the start. There was a brief period of time as a kid where I would have called myself mystery reader because I- imprinted heart on Nancy, drew for a while in elementary school and read. Truly stupendous quantities of the I, read the old hardcovers, and then the the paperbacks that they did for awhile, and then they started doing the case files which were those little white covered books and I think I had over hundred. Like it was something absurd. She's been she's been rebooted sometimes. Yeah. Well, actually, I recently watched a part of the W. series for Nancy drew which..

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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

05:03 min | 1 year ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"But welcome to the world shapers Mary. Thank you for having me. I said Maria Maria Not Mary. Yes Marie Yeah I do run and Britain. I kept run into more people there who pronounce it Mary, which always throws me for a loop of candidates. We have a certain amount of British influence. So I have run into that as well. That's why I thought maybe I should just ask. But I don't think we've ever actually met in person although I suspect we've been at at conventions together world fantasy and WorldCom I get to once in a while I was up the one in Los Angeles last. Fall but we've never met but I'm happy to have you on the show. Very, glad to be here. We're going to start the way I always start and it's it's kind of Cliche on here I'm going to take you back into the mists of time which you know has a nice science fictional and fantasy ring to it right there and find out well, first of all where you grew up and how you got interested in writing and particularly in writing this kind of stuff I probably started with reading as it does with most of us. Yeah. I grew up in Dallas I actually lived in Texas for the first eighteen years of my life all in one house, which is sort of remarkable. My parents still live in the House that they moved into about six months or so before I was born So I definitely have a feeling of deep roots there, which is sort of funny for people in other parts of the world work deep roots means something on the order of centuries. Yeah, six months before I was born, but that counts as deep. Doesn't Texas yeah. You and You know it's interesting to me because at this point I, the period of time that I lived in Texas is now less than half my life I've been living in I went to college in Massachusetts and then Graduate School in Indiana now I live in. California. But don't try to tell me I'm not a Texan, which is probably how I prove I am Texan by contest to get The contrary as I mentioned before we started I wasn't born in Texas, but I started school and everything in Texas and moved up here to Canada from Texas and I collect being Texan all the way through school. Here, I still self identified as techs more than anything else. I wonder if there's a point where that will go away but I haven't found it yet. As for how I got started with writing? I, mean yeah. Like. Read a lot as a kid but for me, what happened was I most kids make up stories? That's just a really common thing for children to do I. But specifically when I was about nine or ten years old I.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

05:34 min | 1 year ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"To another episode of the world shapers where I talked to other sites section and fantasy authors about their creative process. My name is Edward Willett and I am myself an author of science fiction fantasy and if you're a regular follower of the world shapers, you will have noticed that all of a sudden the episodes are coming out every week instead of every two weeks as they normally do, and that's because you might say it's world-shapers month at the world shapers the second book in the world shapers series from Bob Books that I took the name for this podcast from it in some ways. Master of the world just came out and mass market paperback and Ebook three in the series The movement world will be coming out to September fifteenth in trade paperback and e Book. So I thought to during these few weeks between those two events, I would make the podcast a weekly fair in the hopes that you know you might go out and buy some of my books that would be really Nice the world. shapers series began with world shaper and It's basically said in elaborate shaped world which I I like to compare especially on the podcast here to living inside the world's that they have shaped the people generally know that they shape these worlds they were placed there by the mysterious rare who gathered them for our world but first world and put them through school, and then on graduation, they were given their old world shape. So most of them know that that's what they did and that they are living in a world that they shape but my main character, Shawna keys who was living in a very much like ours with a few differences. Has Forgotten that she was a shaper but then the stranger Karl shows up and tells her that not only is she has shaper. But because of something she's done after her best friend was killed by an apparent terrorist attacks you push time back says you have way more power than most people have after they've shaped their world you might have enough power together the knowledge of all the shaped worlds and take it to a rare and save all the worlds of the labyrinth from destruction at the hands of the adversary who is the one who come into car Shawna's world and caused that attack where her best friend was killed. He says her world is already lost because the has stolen the knowledge of it from her. But. If she comes with him, she can save a bunch of other worlds. So in the first book, World Shaper they basically flee..

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"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

Writers Who Don't Write

01:40 min | 3 years ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

"Yeah when when i'm doing stuff myself i will ask myself questions i will push myself but it usually takes time and revision passes when were working in a group were able to say okay option one option two option three four and then chat about them and simple what if we combine one in three but then add option like zeta which is this other thing coming from different direction that iterative process i felt happened so much more rapidly and i think it stronger because of it it does yeah we mentioned roleplaying games before this is where i do feel a similarity between this kind of collaborative writing and something like d it's those moments where somebody comes up with something and i i'm thinking a particular game instance that i participated and i won't go into the anecdote but somebody had their character do a thing i'm like water you doing that's the worst idea ever you're gonna make this all worse and then i saw where they were going with and what no no that's really elegant that's a great solution so i all four of you in the three of you have written for different platforms books video games you know role playing games and even things like social media how have you found the ciro box experience in comparison to kind of the other platforms the styles of writing even involved in well i've been doing probably the most similar thing i've done is some freelance writing for the game legend of the five rings which was both a card game in a role playing game and l five r is kind of known in that corner of the.

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

Writers Who Don't Write

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

"So you know whereas i volunteer to write one of the episodes that i knew was going to have a lot of the dueling in it because i i love fight scenes i was a combat choreographer for theatre in college i wrote a book on how to write fight scene slake this is one of the things i really enjoy and i think the series is the folks have said series is stronger because of it and like okay i'm gonna tackle this first episode because i've spent so much time in this world and it's going to reflect everybody's buying but it still in individual voice what i'm hoping is that readers if they're getting excited about the series as the series goes on even within the first season they will start to anticipate what they may get out of any individual episodes based on who is writing it because they they'll be able to see okay well this is how cassandra approaches the way that these characters interact and the type of description that goes into a scene here's how marie writes a fight scene versus here's how mike writes a fight scene you're getting people who have to people who have episodes that are very fight heavy but it's going to feel different in a lot of the tv shows that i have loved very passionately there is a degree to which individual writers are allowed to kind of have their specialties i think back to liking really liking buffy the vampire slayer and knowing oh this is a mardi nachson episode and i'm hoping that readers will feel that to the i don't want to overstate the extent to which tv does homogenize stuff i think maybe the differences between writers are less visible in tv because in terms of the words you're only getting the dialogue whereas for us it's all of the description and the interior thoughts of the characters and so i think it's easier to spot where the the individual writers touches coming through the opportunity to be surprised more often by the story and go oh i never would have thought of that but that's so much better than what i fought of.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

Writers Who Don't Write

01:41 min | 3 years ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

"Along and they'd hit something and go oh i need to decide what kind of food they eat usually in kuo and we would make something up and then look at each other's ago we've made up two different answers to the same question now we need to decide which of those were keeping i think the ruling body of johnny got three or four in rough in rough drafts before we can there were times where like you would revise to match what i had said and in the meanwhile i revised to match what you had said so we swapped places still didn't have a consistent answer strikes me that each of your backgrounds kind of influence the direction the story took i know that you'll some of you have stronger world billy backgrounds whereas others have stronger cultural backgrounds is this something that you kind of helped you choose a team that you had in i hate to you know like put people in buckets or anything which is not what i'm trying to do but i mean everybody has different you know lived experiences which i with the story when i was talking with the folks at zero box and decided we were going to move forward you know it was me as the series creator and that i was going to be a lead writer and both the seer box folks in i were very much on board with we want to cast this series as inclusively as we can in order to have a broader range of perspectives and because they're so many amazing writers from underrepresented backgrounds within the jarrah and because like i must straight white guy so i read like i'm coming to the series.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

Writers Who Don't Write

01:46 min | 3 years ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

"Yes i don't know what you're talking like sat down and came up with the storyline strikes me as very similar to dodges a dragons or online role playing and i mean did you kind of feel that it was there any element of that or is it very different because you're actually sitting there and you know these days conceiving of had to get onto a piece of paper the big difference i would say is that in a role playing game which both mike and i know to a lot of you have your specific character doubts the lens through which you are experiencing the story that's the lever that you push on to make story happen whereas with this we didn't have our own individual characters it's not like oh you know was mike's character in chris because for anything like that we shared it at all equally in a way that isn't trivial playing games i think it was a lot more structured than dnd in general when i do my work very much penser very prison by the idea of audiovisuals in my head and seeing murray and malkan and michael break down it felt almost late mathematics yeah let everything was broken out thought of very carefully characters will balance their motivations desires your conflicts really cool and very different yeah i'm with you i'm i don't normally outlined that much and so having to figure out where the entire story was going and most of how is getting there that was very different for me and yeah thinking of it almost mathematically that is how it feels in my head is specially with dividing everything up into okay what's happening in this episode.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

Writers Who Don't Write

01:46 min | 3 years ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

"I quit for that yeah sure so there's a bunch of different ways to pitch because i have a sales background so we do a thirty minute episode just on that but ways you can think about it is this is a characterdriven epic fantasy drama with sore played betrayal loyalty people torn between what they think is right who they love and what they believe they have to do it's magic sword sword fights where magic is chief by drawing edged metal through the air in specific patterns called sills and the whole story moves around this place called the water circle which is a group of dualist diplomats that have agreed to represent their nation in kind of political matters large and small and that try to talk through things but when they can't agree they have these ritualized magical duels in order to settle points and at the beginning of the series we have two new people coming to the water circle one is junior water one trying to get support to bid to become award on behalf of their nation and there's a bunch of other political stuff that's going on and so in terms of touchstones we pitch it as avatar the last heir bender meets the west wing and babylon five with magic sword fights yes all of those things are things that i would be interested in several that you've combat is just yes it is an enjoyable synergy i love i love i'm a huge fan of avatar the last air better and i love seeing any reference to it outside of that world that is not terrible the movie became i never saw it it doesn't exist right.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

Writers Who Don't Write

02:23 min | 3 years ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

"Action or some big declaration within the political structure there is a strong ending beat in most of these episodes that gives you a sense of repulsion that cassandra talked about though to be fair we do have a fair dose of action since this is a setting where people settled some of their political disputes by hitting each other with sharp eases of metal yeah i definitely do not want to undersell the magic sword fighting element there is a lot of it and it's cool what seems like this the way that the structure is designed might present a specific challenge to the person tasked with writing the first the first episode and i'm thinking particularly in terms of when it comes to fantasy when it comes to series like this there's a lot of weight placed on the world building so how did you guys deal with sort of placing that pressure on the shoulders of one author when there are four of you will i kind of i raise my hand to to write it because i'd also born of the blade had two lives before it was a cereal box project the the life that it had immediately before was as a a solo pitch that i was developing but hadn't moved forward with and before that it was a wire a fantasy that was kind of codenamed metaphysical fencing academy where the characters were younger and it was a different very different premise so i'd worked on versions of this already and i developed the series bible and we did all the all the summit work and i was happy to take the challenge of kind of breaking ground with the series applying all the time in effort that i put into this world already shaped an informed by the input from everybody in the team and then there was a lot of feedback we had an extra round of editorial development for the pilot and then a cool or what i think is now a cool element of the pilot the prologue came in even later in the process so we went back through through through the pilot quite a number of times so that it would most effectively set the tone for the series that i hope.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

Writers Who Don't Write

02:10 min | 3 years ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

"But was there that sort of pressure so in in terms of writing series fiction versus writing something like a novel was there any pressure to readjust the story line the narrative to fit within that idea of one event or one cornerstone per episode it was definitely part of the conversation because we wanted to have a center of gravity for every episode and i remember thinking in talking specifically about okay needed good hook at at least at the end of the very first episode with the other ones maybe not as much but i'll pass it back over to cassandra i don't necessarily that pressure light michael's just for some of them but i think there was definitely a sense of momentum is things kind of build up to earlier episodes were lot of scene setting in building up the fact that this was a second world fantasy and i guess what as cliffhanger in my head were rarely just the sense that i really wanted to see what my fellow writers were due to accept his it getting personally excited because the stakes which is increasing constantly it was a lot of them are within arcs 'cause we we worked together the whole for writers plus our producer julian in the same physical space over a weekend that was our writers summit that was the most that chunk of time was the most like a tv writer's room because we were all present together and breaking stories in that model of using some of the tools of television writing that julian shared that he'd picked up over the course of how cereal boxes develop their process and we had season arcs for most of the characters and we had the kind of the capital p plot arcs and most of them are very powerfully intertwined because these characters are movers and shakers so when there's a big plot art at least one of the characters is really involved in making that arco or trying to resist it so in any given episode you might have like a strong movement forward in character arc even if there isn't some big explosive.

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"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

Writers Who Don't Write

01:46 min | 3 years ago

"marie brennan" Discussed on Writers Who Don't Write

"Yeah i think that's very apt it has very much the field to me of of kind of that cable drama approach to storytelling where there's a distinct arc to the season it's not random that we refer to these as seasons but then it's divided up into segments episodes that each deliver kind of their own satisfying arc within that rather than it just being i've taken this larger story chopped it into chapters which you know even in a novel chapters aren't arbitrary but there's a different shape to an episode rather than a chapter out of a longer book there's also the fact that every episode feels like it ends on what why are you stopping need to hear bore which seems very accurate to the idea of netflix and a whole keep you hope say you check in front of next gadding yeah dran vic sued these cliff hangers are the kind of things that you plan out ahead of time you know are you all sitting there on the phone with one another trying to figure out how you can structure the season and then also you know how did this particular team come about we can start with the cliffhanger thing i think in some ways though some of the episodes end on cliffhangers i wouldn't use that term generally because not all of them are on the god what's going to happen next some of them the the effect of the end is more like the resolution of a particular thing rather than deliberately leaving it hanging and i think kind of the way to think about it is that each episode i think we might have even rufford seinfeld when we were talking about this at the beginning that you can talk about each episode as the one where x happens and so i think they're almost more defined by what's at the center of episode rather than what's at the end of it.

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