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"maggie curtis" Discussed on Start Here
"It's wednesday february seventeenth. Everything's bigger in texas especially the power outages start here lives on the line. Millions are asking. How did cold weather lead to an electrical catastrophe. Texas has its actual own chunk of the electric grid vape. We'll break down what went wrong. And why the issues light deep in the heart of the grid. They said you can't take an ex president to impeachment. Court said fine. We'll take an irregular court. Lawyers could really try to unearth documents and emails electronic communications with the senate trial in the rear view mirror. Members of congress are pursuing new investigations the assault on the capital. And it's like a jigsaw puzzle with a national treasure. Americans rebuild walter dom invective could be more like jenga or reporter goes into notre dom to learn how difficult and dangerous it is to rebuild from. Abc news this is start here. I'm brad milkey. We lost power last night and it trickled on and off probably ten times when power goes off in a neighborhood. It can feel like an inconvenience early chance to eat and you have to rush my teeth or anything so after a while you start to worry about food staying good and see without lots of flashlights. At night. Three jackets three pants. Three socks and boots on from there. Every hour it gets progressively more dangerous. We haven't have power for the last day and a half my house last night. Breach to fifteen degrees inside and he was horrible which is why the power outages in texas. Week or so alarming. We are following breaking news. Millions of people in texas are without power. Right now is the state looks to conserve energy and relieves stress on the electric grid. I'm seventy years old. And i'm scared in houston woman and an eight-year-old girl dying carbon monoxide poisoning after a car was left running in garage to help generate heat as last night. More than three million. Texans had lost power as like the entire country of uruguay. Just turn the lights out and the reason given to us. Was you know we got these ice storms. But what does that actually mean we call it. The senior science writer for our partners at five. Thirty eight maggie curtis here. Hey maggie hi. how are you guys doing. Good so intuitively. I get why hurricane can knock out power to a place right like it. Makes the electricity poles. Come down like the water causes short circuiting but freezing. Temperatures eletricity still works in freezing temperatures. So why did this happen. Well power lines are still physical objects that can get damaged by cold for one thing so you have lots of different places in a electrical grid. Where cold weather just things down. And that is everything from an ice storm. Freezing the lions outside of your window weighing them down to the point that they crash to transformers exploded and was like fireworks. Going off for july can mean d natural gas coming out of the ground at the production site is freezing at. You know at the site of production. We're down there doing everything we can to literally put heaters in the ground to get those lines back up that can mean people workers at power plants not being able to drive to the power plant. Because it's just too icy. There's lots of different ways that whether of this extreme in a place that does not expected to be that extreme can really just start messing with the entire system by the problem is the weather is causing the outages but the weather is also causing the man to look at that moment. People need their heaters on more than ever. They need services more than ever. Why texas looks like we're seeing other power outages but we're talking about ten thousand three million. What happened in texas. Well there's a number of different things happening here and some of it has to go back to the fact that our electric grid is not a. It's not like a brand new state of the art design system anywhere in the united states and one of the things that were sort of seeing happening here with texas is that texas is like a whole other country. In north america. there are three electric grids. The western interconnection the eastern interconnection and the urquhot interconnection texas has its actual on chunk of the electric grid like the electric grid is is divided into three parts everything east of the rocky mountains everything west of the rocky mountains and texas literally texas is on its own littoral. Yes yes yeah. That's not an exaggeration. Policy direction comes primarily from texas public utility commission guided by the texas legislature. And it is like that because politics basically like. There's no technical reason why it has to be that way. There's no reason why that's even remotely an ideal situation or caught a similar to an air traffic controller. It doesn't own the airplanes or runways but it steps back and make sure everything is flowing properly and efficiently and what it ends up. Meaning is that texas can't share electricity or get electric city from the rest of the country very easily. It's possible but it's not a very simple thing to have like there's blackouts can say. Oh shoot like we need to get 'electricity from wherever colorado someone right right and this is not always a bad thing. I mean like one of the things where you see benefit to having the setup is that it ends up driving up the cost of electricity. Sometimes which means that. There's a big impetus to build more electricity. Which is a big part of why. Texas has led the nation in win development over the last couple of decades because they have all of this incentive to build more power generation. Usually they're thinking for the peak of summer which is a really great time to get wind power in texas. They're not really planning for the peak of winter. Seventy to eighty of them about ten percent are physically off-line right now physically are not working. So if you've seen. I'm sure some of the stuff around blaming wind power for these outages by working outta well. I mean when turbans still work in minnesota brian. We get a large portion of our electricity from wind. Turbines and part of that is because minnesota has. You can buy a car and upgrade all these upgrade packages while the same is true of wind turbines and all the ones in minnesota have the cold weather package installed which includes things like heaters sang and stuff like that and texas did not now. We had rotating outages in nineteen eighty nine and two thousand eleven after two thousand eleven. The public utility commission recommended updating winterizing these power plants but it was not mandated. The reason why it was seen as a costly mandate for a weather event that we really only see every ten to twenty years. of course. we're in one right now and that decision seems rather obvious. We have reached out. But it's not just wind right when you were looking at the data coming in over this weekend about where the outages were happening in texas a far greater proportion of their lost generation capacity was coming from natural. Guests are not going to pull power from first responders. You know fire station. Police departments hospitals and so that gives them very limited capability to take some people off line. Put them back.
"maggie curtis" Discussed on KPCC
"Reveal carding on wrong. Most of these fires in California that are burning now were started by lightning. So you have the fire, generating its own source of new fires. We don't know if that's actually happened with this particular case, but it's it's creating the stuff that could cause another fired. All right, and your final story sort of a mind. Cleansing One's about the moon is rustic. That means we're going to have to send a lot of WD 40 with the next rovers or astronauts that we send to the moon. Right. It's going to be all squeaky up there. You're gonna have to lube it up. So it turns out that Ah, you know, these researchers have discovered That the moon probably has other ways of getting these necessary ingredients. So what they think is going on is that the oxygen is coming from The time each month during a full moon when the moon is sitting directly in the pointy tail on the back side of our planet's protective magnetic field to you, we have this field all the way around the planet that we kind of think of as You know, protecting us from this damaging radiation of the solar wind. But it kind of goes to a point on the side opposite the sun and one of the things that it does, as it's kind of doing that. Big wide cloud at the front. Narrow point at the back is that it's picking up some traces bits of oxygen from our upper atmosphere and sort of flowing them to this little point. And so the researchers think that when the moon is lined up with that tail of the magnetosphere that it's getting some of the oxygen molecules from our atmosphere. Then. The water, meanwhile, is possibly coming from tiny molecules of water that are contained in this lunar dust cloud. That's constantly engulfing the moon that does. Cloud also contains bits of iron from rock. So there are times when that iron and the water in the dust cloud can combine with oxygen from the earth's upper atmosphere. And the result is rust. That is not so mysterious. After all. We all know that from leaving nails outside in the backyard. Thank you. Maggie. Yeah, thank you so much. Maggie Curtis, senior science reporter of Fivethirtyeight. She's based out of Minneapolis. We're going to take a break, and after the break, we're talking about moss and we're going to explore in their tiny world. I'm Ira Plato, and this is science Friday from W. Studios. We're kpcc and you could get are fact based news.
"maggie curtis" Discussed on KQED Radio
"This particular one was visible from space. And it's all particularly bad news, considering the fact that you know, other than the one fire that was lit by a gender reveal party gone wrong. Most of these fires in California that are burning now were started by lightning. So you have the fire, generating its own source of new fires. We don't know if that's actually happened with this particular case, but it's it's creating the stuff that could cause another fire. All right, and your final story sort of a mind. Cleansing One's about the moon is rustic. That means we're going to have to send a lot of WD 40 with the next rovers or astronauts that we send to them. Right. It's going to be all squeaky up. They're going to have to lube it up. So it turns out that you know, these researchers have discovered That the moon probably has other ways of getting these necessary ingredients. So what they think is going on is that the oxygen is coming from The time each month during a full moon when the moon is sitting directly in the pointy tail on the back side of our planet's protective magnetic field. You know, we have this field all the way around the planet that we kind of think of, as you know, protecting us from this damaging radiation of the solar wind, But it kind of goes to a point. On the side opposite the sun and one of the things that it does, as it's kind of doing that big wide plot at the front narrow point at the back is that it's picking up some traces bits of oxygen from our upper atmosphere and sort of Flowing them to this little point. And so the researchers think that when the moon is lined up with that tail of the magnetosphere that it's getting some of the oxygen molecules from our atmosphere than the water. Meanwhile, Is possibly coming from tiny molecules of water that are contained in this lunar dust cloud that's constantly engulfing the moon. That dust cloud also contains bits of iron from rock. So there are times when that iron and the water in the dust cloud can combine with oxygen from the earth's upper atmosphere. And the result is rest. That is not so mysterious. After all. We all know that from leaving nails outside in the backyard. Thank you. Maggie. Yeah, thank you so much. Maggie Curtis, senior science reporter of Fivethirtyeight. She's based out of Minneapolis. We're going to take a break, and after the break, we're talking about moss and we're going to explore in their tiny world. I'm Ira Flatow and this is science Friday from the studios. Support for cake comes.
"maggie curtis" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"This particular one was visible from space. And it's all particularly bad news, considering the fact that you know, other than the one fire that was lit by a gender reveal carding on wrong. Most of these fires in California that are burning now were started by lightning. So you have the fire, generating its own source of new fires. We don't know if that's actually happened with this particular case, but it's it's creating the stuff that could cause another fire. All right, and your final story sort of a mind. Cleansing One's about the moon is rustic. That means we're gonna have to send a lot of WD 40 with the next rovers or astronauts that we send to the moon. Right. It's going to get all squeaky up there. You're gonna have to lube it up. So it turns out that Ah, you know, these researchers have discovered that the moon probably has other ways of getting these necessary ingredients. So what they think is going on is that the oxygen is coming from The time each month during a full moon when the moon is sitting directly in the pointy tail on the back side of our planet's protective magnetic field, So we have this field all the way around the planet that we kind of think of as You know, protecting us from this damaging radiation of the solar wind. But it kind of goes to a point on the side opposite the sun and one of the things that it does, as it's kind of doing that. Big wide cloud at the front. Narrow point at the back is that it's picking up some traces bits of oxygen from our upper atmosphere and sort of flowing them to this little point. And so the researchers think that when the moon is lined up with that tail of the magnetosphere that it's getting some of the oxygen molecules from our atmosphere. Then. The water, meanwhile, is possibly coming from tiny molecules of water that are contained in this lunar dust cloud. That's constantly engulfing the moon that does. Cloud also contains bits of iron from rock. So there are times when that iron and the water in the dust cloud can combine with oxygen from the earth's upper atmosphere. And the result is rust. That is not so mysterious. After all. We all know that from leaving nails outside in the backyard. Thank you. Maggie. Yeah, thank you so much. Maggie Curtis, senior science reporter of Fivethirtyeight. She's based out of Minneapolis. We're going to take a break, and after the break, we're talking about moss and we're going to explore in their tiny world..
"maggie curtis" Discussed on KPCC
"Is so important eighty nine point three KPCC democracy needs to be heard do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America this is science Friday I am I replied to just a note due to the need for social distancing this week we will be taking calls during this edition of science Friday which was pre recorded earlier in the week one of the biggest issues in the US when it comes to the Soviet dying teen pandemic is testing getting more tests produced and the struggle to get one if you need it what exactly is the science and technology behind those PCR tests center the work Maggie Curtis here to fill us in on that story another covert headlines from this week she is senior science reporter for five thirty eight dot com based in Minneapolis welcome to science Friday welcome back thank you so much for having me let's talk about this this corona virus it's made up of RNA and and that is what the tests are analyzing can you give us a little thumbnail on that yes so the tests are old it turns out the ones that we've been using for the past few weeks at any rate are all based around the same technology that's true here it's true in other countries and basically what's going on is that a medical professional sticks a swab way way way way up the back your nose and then they take that biological gunk in technical terms and they first have to isolate viral material the RNA out of that goose separating it off from you kiss random sells an RNA is sort of like you can imagine it is like half of the latter so if DNA is like a twisted ladder RNA is sort of like that split in half and so the person that they have to do is turn RNA into DNA that's called reverse transcription and it's something that can be done with what amounts to science kits that researchers bias from scientific supply companies they do that and then the next step is something called polymerase chain reaction which is a long established technology and methods used for multiplying the numbers of DNA fragments that you have you have enough that you can actually study and a big part of what makes the test that we have from the CDC different from you know the ones that they're using with the World Health Organization is what specific fragments of the the virus that causes cover nineteen that they're looking for when they do this replication step that's actually a thing that makes it different it's not different technology it's not you know different methodology it's just looking for these different sort of fingerprints of the virus and so I can see with so many steps in so many different the swabs vivid the vials everything else if you have a shortage if you have a blockage someplace that could stop creating the tests altogether right right so it turns out that what is actually slowing down our testing in the U. S. at this point isn't really anything that has to do with the technology itself it has to do with supplies of all the things that you need for the technology and that includes everything from the nasal swabs to chemicals that are used to do the reverse transcription and the P. C. R. to just health care workers to run these tests how come by South Korea was able to do what a quarter of a million people so quickly and they have the drive through testing stations one what is taking us so long to catch up there honestly it sounds like the biggest thing is that we haven't had a serious outbreak a serious pandemic affect us since the nineteen sixties so South Korea had a brush with a cousin virus of scope and Mercer any our **** back in twenty fifteen and it wasn't a huge outbreak there but it was enough to you know put the fear of god into the leaders of that country and they started having plans ready to go they started having these chemicals in strong supply and they were ready when the set well there has been talk about developing a home test kit with this also tax the supply if we had these things it depends on what kinds of kids ended up being used there are a lot of different kinds of ways that you can do test for viruses some of them are you know based on the use reverse transcription and PCR set ups but if you're doing something at home it would be unlikely to be based around that since those don't have technical equipment at our houses but one of the things that we know about tests that are you know very fast done in doctor's offices for things like the flu is that they have a higher percentage of things like false positives false negatives so that's something that if you have a home kit test kit you're probably going to have a little bit more of a risk out it's all about trade offs thank you Jimmy we initially heard that the corona virus struck older people but there's a trusting news from in California half of the cases are in younger people that seems to be the case yeah that's what the governor is saying it's it ends up being really interesting I mean we look at nationwide cases you're still talking about I'm very lopsided the hockey stick sort of pattern where the older you are the more likely you are to have you know had symptoms to have been hospitalized to have died but there are a lot of younger people who seem to be getting this to and there has been back and forth about whether you should take ibuprofen to treat the covert nineteen symptoms what's what's the latest on that to pay so this is one of these things I think is interesting about aids you know national emergency new situation is that you kind of get into that sort of fog of war place where it's hard to understand what's really happening because you're so busy living right in the middle of it and that's definitely an issue with this pandemic you know there have been some of these small studies that have prompted big responses by the media and by the public and then they turned out to not be as reliable as we sort of first thought so last week the French health minister had announced that people diagnosed with COPD in nineteen should avoid ibuprofen that was based apparently on for young people who have developed more severe symptoms after they've taken it and it's not a totally unreasonable idea the British medical journal noted that there have been at least two large trials in the past that provided some evidence supporting the idea that I'd be profane can exacerbate other kinds of respiratory illnesses but right now other researchers are saying there's not really any evidence that sars CO two is doing that which IP provisions so even the World Health Organization which several media outlets and cited as saying you should avoid ibuprofen is now saying they never said that and their and stock to consider IT propane to be safe for COPD patients we've been her hearing stories about some of the companies that make one thing are stepping up to make something to help combat this epidemic and one of those you know is is hand sanitizer which is in short supply there's a story that some distilleries they make alcohol right they're stepping up the fight make hand sanitizers well yeah you know ethanol is the basic ingredient needed for hand sanitizers and a lot of distilleries are sort of realizing Hey we have a lot of Dennis and the distillery's since a couple of trade publications I've read have pointed out are not particularly losing money right now so they're trying to find ways to give back to the community and the reports that I've read about this a lot of these different distilleries all around the country are kind of looking at this as a charity thing and they're either donating the supplies of the hand sanitizer they're making to like local hospitals were providing it as a you know pay what you can sort of you know system interesting about this to me is that it's not a completely simple process for them you know they have all the Sentinel but it has to be denatured so they have to kind of add some chemicals to make it unfit for human consumption which isn't something they're used to doing and they also had to get a hold of you know these other key ingredients like glycerin and hydrogen peroxide and even just you know the plastic containers to hold the stuff that they don't normally have on hand so they have to they have to spend money to sort of re tool a bit a little bit yeah yeah and then always cost money and it always takes some time they're all different types of drugs being named as potential treatments even if their effectiveness is not confirmed but that hasn't stopped people from trying to get these drugs right there and then they're creating shortages aren't they right I mean this is another thing where you kind of get some of that fog of war stuff happening where there was a French study involved less than thirty people and it suggested that this one common malaria treatment might be effective against the novel coronavirus which then led president trump to tout the dragons are likely miracle cure and Dan you know all of a sudden you have people kind of making a run on this drug at pharmacies and what has sort of happened is that even though there's not really much evidence at all to support the idea of using this you have the public stockpiling it and some of that stockpiling apparently is being done by doctors themselves who are writing prescriptions for themselves and family members and buying up everything that the pharmacies had in stock which is a really big problem because besides treating malaria distraught is also used as a treatment for lupus so cutting off the supply to lupus patients could mean even more people with these chronic illnesses that make them more susceptible to cope at nineteen and yeah and if people start you know experimenting on themselves with drugs who knows what some of the side effects would be all right I mean there's also the sort of problem where chemistry can sound like it's the same thing and not be the same thing at all and there was one case in Arizona where a man died because he had tracked down aid similar sounding chemical compounds to the one from that French study but what he had found was instead to aid industrial chemical used to clean parasites at a fish tanks people are desperate they do desperate things in desperate times fear is a hell of a motivator we're gonna talk more actually about debunking some of these treatments are right after the break so if people can hang around but well I'm glad you stuck around Maggie to talk about these really interesting topics thank you for taking time to be with us again as usual yeah thank you for having me Maggie Kurth the senior science reporter for five thirty eight dot com based in Minneapolis when we come back we're gonna return to fact check your feed we're gonna dig into the studies and reports behind the news chatter over corona virus treatments some of the stuff will get into great detail that we talked about now so stay with us we'll be right back after this this is science Friday from W. 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"maggie curtis" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Seven seven i'm thoroughly annoyed by the fact that Right now. Honestly, what comes first? Hey man, only four Maggie or. You're going to name him or Mickey getting fired. I think at this point. Yeah, I know. I know you want me. Curious just to remind you July fifty tomorrow, because you're by you by Sonny. just makes it you n._y. just name the kid mickey here's the thing no here's the thing if they haven't fired him by now what do you do how do you come out now and you fire them i mean honestly because he's embarrassing you now about the performance anymore but if you've been watching the press conferences which i know you have i mean he hasn't exactly been killing it and now the team's doing bad and i get that every single day though that he has to answer about his job security plays into this dysfunctional stew because if you believe that he's just hit a breaking point which i underst- i in as a human being and i have empathy for that that he would hit a breaking point i don't have empathy for someone screaming at someone else because i in a work setting that's just totally inappropriate and you can't threaten people in a workplace no you can't that's that's common sense so i don't have empathy for that but if they haven't fired him by now what's going to change their mind mind you already have riggleman who's sitting right there that's obviously not doing anything they fired dave island they fired chuck hernandez right the bullpen coach they've made these sort of changes in mickey is safe now could they come out and fire him today tomorrow next week what's going to change these decisions maybe they should go onto who's a guy brought in for analytics just making all the coverage he said he's a guy that's making all the stories for the season so he's doing the lineup he's doing the changes he's the one that's really called he's the guy who's managing his team but you can't get rid the analytics guy yet and i would not advocate for that because first of all the mets were woefully behind if you don't believe a lot of the reports in that area of the of the franchise and analytics you have to actually let that play out a little bit long in typical fashion they hired a guy you know just just imagine with his team would be out of beano i in the mail you well That's right. familiar can no one no right now come on man honestly what i wanna know right now analytics there is how long does it take for it to become the quote complete fiasco that we were talking about last week that yesterday That was yesterday was yesterday. fired a barring a complete fiasco mickey is going to be the guy for the rest of the year what please somebody i've i've looked it up a few times and it kind of looks like this what is a complete v._i._s._a. i have a question for bart because he's actually been in these locker of clubhouses stuff like that having a conversation with peter king this morning he brought this up and i think it's smart is there something about professional sports where mickey would have looked worse in front of his players if he had come out and apologized the first time yesterday yes because remember what the conversations he had probably privately with this team we don't know what that message was dana come on Media. they're trying to bring us down you're talking about the whole rally could the common enemy enemy hey we're gonna stick together it doesn't matter what other people outside of this room clubhouse think about us is only all we have in his room is us and then he come on sam sorry then it looks like he's like bala down right and then that's why bargains came on and look like that was the message that was sent collectively through the team that we're going to double down on this we not gonna let these people continue to push us over you know we understand how tough this media market is and i'm sure players come from all the places they may we never had to deal with this to this intensity and we're not scrutinized as much let's stick together and then the organization neutered him in front of the whole team by making them come back out and clue it was clear that he wanted to make something straight and he was forced to come out so now at this point remember we were talking about it was important for brody to give him the show a confident because players will start paying attention to him and not care what he says well that's the same thing right so now people get this man i'm just going to worry about me ain't got nothing to do meanwhile he's taking all this criticism mets up i mean horrible Forty-three home runs in what since two thousand eighteen he can't. He can't. He can't figure it out. He's all over the place. You canot over five again, horrible. So. All right out of position Keith Hernandez, set it on the broadcast, he basically he just said in the bottom of the fifth. Two outs. He said, this organization does not care about defense. So you sweep it all under the rug. And I'm sure brody's man you see what I gotta do you look at what I got him up bullpen Calloway. This is a joke like, but I'm the one that's got to sit here and eat all this. Let's do Ryan Stockholm start us off today. Well on the. The New York Mets guys. Probably the worst day. I can remember in franchise in the last thirty years, don't get tomorrow. Honestly, we only went through yesterday the last three and a half four years as a here's what's going on the last twenty. here's how bad it god i mean aside from the absolute sideshow and comical contradictory misdirection of information you had the game poetically have a two run home run by jay bruce in the face of robbie over five i mean if that's not a slap in the face to where his franchise has been beaten and fans have been kind of trickling down towards I shudder to think what's worse. Well, ryan. i mean there's a lot of it depends what your definition is on the field thing well in an all fulfilled thing too i guess because jay bruce was terrible here and he's also hard cabin Laurie. Jay Nixon, I wasn't in favor of keeping Bruce last year. listen that's just one of those things that happened it's almost it just the symbolism of it the symbolism of jabar's hitting the two run home run the symbolism of what was supposed to be the ten thousand dollar fine like that's supposed to be symbolic but it doesn't actually do anything bar you didn't care when you got ten grand jason vargas has made a ton of money in his career he doesn't care if he gets five ten grand Usually, if you're. eight million what does it if you have to give back ten thousand yeah let's go to chris in westport connecticut this pretext bells maggie Curtis. How you doing? Good good. But. Got a point here. I look, I really think Maggie you know, in Chris bar then wagon, and it's the problem here because up. in this organization up for failure by saying they were a contender and they're not a contender yet they don't have they don't have an a plus bullpen didn't know at the beginning of the season did alonzo was going to be good he's a rookie he's mickey up for failure by saying Were there a year or two away from contending in any general manager? Who's a rookie general manager? Usually takes a one two to three year plan. Come, guinness? He's. set ownership up and he set the players up for failure by saying they were contenders crease ready but chris here's the thing then brody also set himself up because now his word means nothing or means less and less by the day so if he was setting what everyone else up i mean didn't he also set up himself because he's in over his head he shouldn't be the general manager he's the one that should be fired mickey mickey has it been given a legitimate team to say come get us it's not it's not he hired jessica and does and it's consulted by iran but he didn't give mickey an a plus bullpen well but also chris they had no it's not just those other the splashy hires it was the allard baird it's keeping omar it's who else is the front office another former g. o. ruben amaro who they moved from first base coach backup to the front office they were patting themselves on the back about that a lot hey we have brody surrounded by all these great baseball people not jessica mendoza not al lighter not those those were more the like public you know ceremonial hires team be without a vino and lemay you well the players they picked the wrong You take ownership. here's what he's giving them talking about this bullpen with solid with familiar but the thing is mickey hasn't helped them overcome any of those deficiencies yes the roster is not good he's never should've said come get us but when is mickey elevated this team what been a move that he's made where you said you know what they're really making chicken salad over there because of his foresight it's not moving resort.
"maggie curtis" Discussed on 77WABC Radio
"That's right Teammates back in. The day they they had their instances that's. For sure, but yes this is a, common practice not, for everybody but there have been some ugly moments in the running history of people needing to go just needing to go at any time in the middle. Of Iran so it's. It happens, I unfortunately this guy chose to do it on a high. School track don't know why that was, his choice but it. Does happen so you tell us the physical. Issues too what's? Going? On? What Matt why does? That happen and you and, I've talked I remember you and I bonded right away when I first started here, because, I I you buy as curse, was saying you're an amazing runner and run like a. Killer pays my dad ran thirty three marathons and, his day and I remember. My dad remember my dad going to the bathroom in front, of me but I do remember, him saying I, gotta, go Honey I'll be. Right back You know you're. Pushing yourself at a extreme pace in some instances, you're doing more than the. Bodies normally doing and for some runners I mean like I, know myself when I'm in high, training I'm eating, four, thousand calories a day I don't know what this. Guy's life, was like but when I was in. College I mean there's plenty of times when I had teammates pull off of a. Run weather, it's into the woods maybe close to someone's backyard, I don't wanna say someone's actual backyard To relieve themselves what about this desire to poop on, a regular basis in. The same location almost like dogs. And catch marking off the territory that I find a little weird I it's almost like some pre crime stability. In his head there I, don't know why you would do. It constantly in the same. Spot? Especially at a school so I'm I'm from holmdale too so between the running and homedale and, I guess even the, pooping? To this story really hits close to home but in? Holmdale, this guy there are woods everywhere in holmdale just. Pull off, anywhere else why why are you. Doing it on a high school track, where you. Know people are looking now he's caught each quarterback. Right you would think years ago, you'd be, embarrassed by this yeah you would hope let it go away are quick you. Know I'll move to, a different Brown I'll go. To the heartland of America fly ovarian Beard and, we're away Oh Pennsylvania, Ohio, but he. Decided no. I'm staying I'm fighting. You owe me money you're gonna. Pay me back pay you're going. To give me compensation I'm entitled to sick time that I never talk and he's walking away with close to two. Hundred thousand dollars defiant the world's most famous pooper scooper to track. For one. Hundred grand I'm in that's where I'm going We're going with you Curtis. And I are runners but we'll go with you number one eight hundred eight four eight WABC that's one eight hundred eight four eight nine, two two two but it's. Not limited Justice. Geographies or people training for marathons or going to tracks. And running round and round and maybe there's no and there's no facility so they dropped the choice. And they. Take. A dump it was a a high profile executive in Silicon Valley need Paolo Alto who instead of going to the bathroom each, morning after we go we go for his quad Salton is Starbucks he would take a dump right outside of his apartment he lived in an apartment complex and. He would, do, it over and, over, again the. Same time. Same place yeah we. Gotta get a psychologist to look. Into that because that's like the. Weirdest there's a case in Brisbane also where this guy they were trying to figure it out and he'd like literally. He goes over to like a neighbor's apartment complex and takes dumps. Its territorial. Just like with animals It's like a. Six psychology we need Tell. You know there are some. Poop experts Yeah no more than task What would it be like I, feel like first of all I have such respect for runners and takes so much work to. Get to. The point here. You are it's hard enough it's. Sweating you're outside right now you're sweating, to death? In, your outside how disgusting To be running or slipping and sliding on the track that yeah, that's bad I mean you I've had to run around you know this that, animal feces in the past but if it's human that's really bad I mean. They're look everybody's had some? Close calls I guess it depends, on how you can hold it in or not but the fact that you just do that on a. Track is just. In I wish more of it. Would happen run is because his so. Self-indulgent indulgent I hate to show you pictures there's, a photo that went around probably a decade ago of a guy in race, who just couldn't hold it and he just exploded all over his short running So I'm, just telling you it happens anyway let's let's see I wanted, to ask, that all right use calling from the big CI Coney Island welcome to, Kurdish, really Cosby assistant program director and poop expert mantle looney. Guys Maggie Curtis Arita. You the, best you. Brought. Everything program. It's, never been better, I'm really I, love great thank you I I ran many many, miles on and I trained a lot here in Coney Island and I've seen people have explosions on actually coming off the Faroe. Zanele bridge men and women, go between cars. On first avenue Thank God I I, only, had police stations and fire houses that were open that. I was able to. Go into, but my. Problem. Was back. In, the eighties and, early nineties when, I was running a lot of Americans they had, those protein bars that were pre digested and I was into them and my God day went through you like yeah that's good They didn't have that fiber you, know like peanut butter that would cause you to be constipated so actually that's why we need to ban the New York, City, marathon loss Public defecation that's taking place Reason to. Get rid of these wanted so I. Love the marathoners keep it don't you listen to current as let's go to, Neo who's calling from Brooklyn welcome to, Kurdish, and ricotta via WABC Neil Neil It's true it's true. They have that the runners disease like. They just run run like with about on like it's all about I don't, remember remember her name girder vice Yup, Yup Yup Yeah she was. Literally paying. One time. If they were watching and she was just pants wiping herself as she's paying I she's running yeah well. Sometimes listen let. Me going to. Ask our. Poop. Expert. Here Sometimes when you're like you're going in and especially when you're doing long distances, you may. Not. Realize, your, bodily, functions right you just so in the zone Matt Look I hope some people have better control than it, just happening so easily but I get, I? Get it a little this happens, right No control is this, what you're saying, is you like a little. Child out there Say I am like that I have many The schools, he's taking, a dump every morning same time. Same place especially especially for a morning run. That's when the body is waking itself. Up, certain things are are. Happening down there Things are like. Clockwork cursor, just saying it's interesting it was. The same time is that like okay it's. Three oh six gotta do the dumb How'd. You take another minor in. Law you know, you, could have. Offered, a. Friend that for this Let's go. To. Robert he's calling? From the Bronx. Welcome to Kurdish Rita and mad doll here WABC Bobby Bobby Hello how are you love your show I'll just wondering just. Saying just kind of make. A two hundred thousand dollars getting, a deal is deal poopers getting it so here's here's one thing, why not charge. For the camera the surveillance that groundskeepers? That pick, up his dad's a great idea Robert grow back It gets deeper Robert, he's suing the, holmdale, police department for invasion of his personal privacy for posting the cameras so that they could catch the guy was pooping who is. The superintendent of schools. In nearby Kenilworth and making, him the most well known pooper in the. World but I. Agree. By the way? That's a great. Point they should he should be reimbursing for the cameras the headache and people like Matt doll had to be says right. To love Matt I'm going. To defend map by the way, you think you could do a DNA analysis showed the poop the..