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Fresh update on "mac" discussed on We The People
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One-on-one voice and video calling is now finally available on WhatsApp's desktop app for Window and Mac
"Up rolled out support for voice video calling on its desktop app. For mac and windows this is currently limited to one to one cause. But what's at plans to support group calls in the future
Fresh update on "mac" discussed on Larry Elder
"For their kids. It's almost like minority families want the school the open more than anybody else. The reason I say that is because education for us for our culture is the stairway out of property. So every day that our Children is not in school that's just a day closer to property for them. What was in charge? This is good distance back in school. And for any parents out there who want to be a part of the rally on Saturday. It's going to take place at Ted Walk ins Park at 11 A.m.. The 1st 250 kids there will get a free backpack. Maybe now just now, urban parents gonna realize Democratic Party teachers union not on your side. I am a member of a Mac, the association of Mature American Citizens. A Mac is the fastest growing conservative 50 plus organization in America like us, they believe in and stand up for the values that made America so great faith, family and freedom..
Apple Seeds Third Betas of iOS 14.5, iPadOS 14.5 and macOS Big Sur 11.3 to Developers
"Betas for the deb types. Macrumors ran a couple of pieces on wednesday one announcing developer betas for ios and ipad fourteen dot five and another announcing a third developer beta for mac os big sur eleven dot three. I've not seen a lot about new stuff and the betas not much. That wasn't new in previous betas. Anyway though there is one feature generating some clicks yet. Another piece from macrumors says the third beta of ios fourteen dot. Five pops an items tab in the fine. My up by default developers have been able to play with that before though it required elven magic by which i made a developer setting. Had to be toggled or they had to go into safari on iphone or ipad and work some elven magic now. Though the p. says the items tab appears automatically for all users running the latest beta
iPhone 12 sales for exceed demand expectations
"Checks in the supply chain show continuing strength for the iphone twelve line. Apple insider has had a peak at an investor note from cowan company after discounting claims of near-term trimming in builds. The peace says cowen has revised its iphone build estimate for the march twenty twenty one quarter upward for the fourth month in a row while commons estimate was fifty five million january that has risen by two million to fifty seven million units in the quarter. That represents a fifty four percent rise versus the same quarter a year ago. Then again we might want to take the year ago. Quarter and chuck it. Because that's when the planet started doing the covert way if you're wondering where the strength is it is straight down. The middle in cowan's estimation the firm says apple's added a million each to orders for iphone twelve and iphone twelve pro while things are expected to slow in the june quarter versus the current quarter. They'll still be last year. Count initial forecast of forty four million units in the quarter is up twenty six percent year on year. According to the peace counting company as a buy rating on apple shares the firm's price target on the shares is one hundred fifty three dollars
The iPhone sales trend is up
"In the supply chain show continuing strength for the iphone twelve line. Apple insider has had a peak at an investor note from cowan company after discounting claims of near-term trimming in builds. The peace says cowen has revised its iphone build estimate for the march twenty twenty one quarter upward for the fourth month in a row while commons estimate was fifty five million january that has risen by two million to fifty seven million units in the quarter. That represents a fifty four percent rise versus the same quarter a year ago. Then again we might want to take the year ago. Quarter and chuck it. Because that's when the planet started doing the covert way if you're wondering where the strength is it is straight down. The middle in cowan's estimation the firm says apple's added a million each to orders for iphone twelve and iphone twelve pro while things are expected to slow in the june quarter versus the current quarter. They'll still be last year. Count initial forecast of forty four million units in the quarter is up twenty six percent year on year. According to the peace counting company as a buy rating on apple shares the firm's price target on the shares is one hundred fifty three dollars
Apple Was Third Largest Seller of Tablets in India in 2020
"More growth for apple in india this time on the tablet front macrumors has new numbers from idc show ipad growing. Its market share there by thirteen percent year over year. It's kind of a good news. Bad news story. The growth was enough to put apple and third in terms of tablets per india. The bad news the top two players lenovo and samsung saw their shipments grow more than one hundred fifty percent each compared to two thousand nineteen macrumors says. That's because they sell cheaper low end tablets compared to apple's ipad line. I said it was good news bad news but it can be spun back to good news. Third-place means there's room to grow which is the kind of thing. Investors like to hear.
All 270 U.S. Apple stores are open in some capacity
"Oh from day for the first time in almost a year or two hundred seventy. Us apple stores are open in some capacity. According to a piece from nine to five. Mac it was three hundred fifty. Four days ago. Friday the thirteenth of march twenty twenty. That apple closed all of its retail stores outside of greater china. It is of course still not the before times. According to the peace all apple stores still enforce health and safety guidelines include reduced occupancy and the mask requirement apple. Continuously evaluates local cova conditions and. It's highly possible that some stores could temporarily close or return to express future in fact some are still operating with only express pickup of online orders. That said all two hundred seventy. Us locations are now open in some
Biden Expresses Support for Amazon Union Vote in Alabama: ‘Make Your Voice Heard’
"Never heard any full-throated support From from barack obama when it came to unions in recall that when democrats took the senate in two thousand eight one of the things that they had promised was a vote in a passage of card check which was basically simplified the process in which people could vote for a union that they could simply just put in a request and if enough members of a workplace put in a request for a union. You'd get a union. You wouldn't have an extended period of time which invariably house employers to deploy a in the case of amazon. Let's say just take for example In this Attempt to unionize in alabama twenty five million dollars and you talk the other day about some of the things they're doing. they literally got the city. Because union organizers can't talk to their fellow workers at the amazon facility whereas amazon can basically spend all day. Say hey today. Your job is just learning how bad unions are with these mythical. With these these mac. Captive audience meetings exactly and the in amazon. Actually got the city in bessemer alabama to change the timing telling us about this at the stop lights. So that unionized organizers could not go and actually help unionized or organized there. So there's a lot of things that the administration can do in terms of national labor relations board and whatnot and there's been some good moves by the biden administration that regard but one of the things that obama did was to use the bully pulpit and one of the things that he said that he appreciated about ronald reagan. Was that very thing. We just never saw him do it. Well joe biden doing now. Joe biden can do more. He could go down to alabama and actually like campaign for the union. But this is pretty. This is pretty important stuff. Because you know the union is going to use this clip and it's going to help yours joe biden. We're gonna play the full two minutes because it's actually pretty big deal. I've long said america wasn't built by wall street was built by the middle class and unions built the middle class. Unions put power in the hands of workers they level the playing field. They give you a stronger voice for your health. Your safety higher wages protection. Some racial discrimination sexual harassment unions lift up workers both union and nonunion and especially black and brown workers. I've made it clear. Made it clear when i was running. But my administration's policy would be to support unions organization organizing and the right to collectively bargain. I'm keeping that promise. You should all remember. The national labor relations act. Didn't just say the unions are allowed to exist. It said the union. we should encourage unions. So let me be really clear. It's not up to me to decide whether anyone join a union but let me be even more clear. It's not up to an employer. Decide that either. The choice to join a union is up to the workers. Full stop full. Stop today and over the next few days and weeks. Workers in alabama and all across america are voting on whether to organize a union in their workplace. This is vitally important. A vitally important choice. As america grapples with the deadly pandemic the economic crisis in the reckoning on race what it reveals the deep disparities still exist in our country and there should be no intimidation no coercion. No anti union propaganda. No supervisor no supervisors you confront employees about the union preferences. You know every worker should have a free and fair choice to join a union. The law guarantees that choice. And it's your right. Not that of employer at your right. No employer can take that right away so make your voice heard. God bless you all. May god protect workers and their families who are trying to figure out how to make it make it fairly thank
Counterpoint Research Foresees Big Things for Apple iPhone
"Off now to europe where counterpoint research sees big iphone shape things while smartphone sales fell fourteen percent in europe last year and iphone. Sales fell four percent by counter points reckoning. The jesus phone came roaring back at the end of the year with iphone grabbing thirty percent market share in the december quarter that had iphone edging out samsung with its twenty nine percent and leaving all other players in the dust. According to the report while the later than usual launch of iphone twelve may have some wondering what might have been counterpoint counters that the late launch may have been a boon quoting the firm the decision to delay the launch of iphone twelve appears to pay offer for two reasons first and gave the iphone eleven and iphone s. e. the opportunity to demonstrate remarkable longevity selling continuously well in many markets throughout the year and second it build up the for the new device. Which when finally launched in october sold spectacularly all that santa kinda. Wanna put an asterisk by this story. I saw a couple of pieces based on the same counterpoint. Memo the aforementioned piece apple must and another from cult of mac. I wanted to dig deeper on that memo but the link is dead on both sites so they said what they said. It's unclear whether they took it back or just had trouble on the interwebs
Institutions still underweight on AAPL despite strong 2020 growth
"Institutional ownership of apple. Shares is near an all time high according to morgan stanley analyst. Katie huber d but it is nowhere near enough and harassed mation could be helpful at this point to find out what institutional ownership is according to the site investo pedia institutional ownership is the amount of the company's available stock owned by mutual or pension funds insurance companies investment firms private foundations endowments or other large entities that manage funds on behalf of others. The site goes onto. Explain that once those institutions get into a company. They tend to stay there for a while. Not only this pulling shares out of circulation raise the value of shares outstanding. Their decision to get in can lead other investors to do the same despite being near all time highs institutional ship of apple is still under weight according to a note from hubert to clients posted on apple three not. Oh the way she and hers. Apple is likely to see revenue growth of twenty two percent in fiscal year. Twenty twenty one and earnings per share growth of thirty six percent. That's based on a few numbers. That i wish i understood but i sadly do not
At Apple meeting, CEO Cook dismisses monopoly allegations, shareholders support executive pay
"Apple held its annual shareholders meeting on tuesday virtual of course hashtag these times in which we live apple insider had the company. Ceo saying he is greatly optimistic. About apple's future. I know it was quite a surprise business. Done during the meeting including approving apple's board of directors. Please welcome back to the table. James bell tim cook al gore andrea. Young art levinson. Ron sugar and sue wagner. There were also four proposals to be decided to supported by apple and to opposed not surprisingly. They went away. The company wanted according to the report. The passing proposals were the reappointment of apple's public accounting firm for auditing purposes and the approval of apple's executive compensation the two failed proposals both submitted by shareholders focused on amending proxy access for director nominations and improvements to apple's executive compensation program
Apple users targeted by 'mysterious' malware
"At both Intel and new M one based Max called Silver Sparrow. It's been detected on almost 30,000 Max. So far, those mashable reports there's no evidence of a harmful payloads of security experts can't pinpoint the malware motives. Security firm Red Canary first discovered the Silver Sparrow and it's been spotted in 153 countries. As for how it arrives, it comes by way of an installer disguised as a legitimate application or an update. With the generic name update, ER or update It's unusual for malware to Target Max and to have to type a minute existing Intel based Max and the New Apple silicone powered and one Max is even more rare. And Apple spokesperson tells me Apple revoked the developer accounts needed to authorize installation to prevent new infections and reminded users the Mac APP store is the safest place to get MAC software, though the Apple notary Service will protect users from acquired outside the APP store Fox on Tech, Brett Larson, Fox News. Our
Nearly 40,000 Macs infected by mysterious malware, researchers say
"This mauer discovered Last week by a tech you security company Red canary They called it. By the way silver sparrow so maybe they have a thing about birds. I don't know but read. Canary discovered that there was a strange melwert. First of all we. We love it that it's one of the one of the programs optimized for them one so so there's on the bright side there was so much terrible reporting because they were one of the big newspapers a trade papers actually said throw or something. Like i'm gonna throw my m one in the trash now. Let's even the point like apple. Spent and the november antonio easy it was to port code from intel to a to an one and that's all anybody can do is just code and They they read sparrow. Doesn't say whether it's a fat binary. But i but guesses universal right. I don't know us the tools. Oh use the code Odd because it doesn't do anything it has been found according to Red sparrow on thirty thousand max worldwide. How is that is that because red sparrow. They must be offering some sort of antivirus or something. They're working with a malware byte so we're giving data that at least so that's that's the only confirmed sightings so there could be more than that. Yeah twenty yes. So that would have mac users who put malware bytes on their system and then The our buys discovered twenty nine thousand one hundred thirty nine mac. Os points across one hundred fifty. Three countries Mostly us uk. Canada france and germany. But what's weird. It has no malicious payload. It doesn't do anything it just It installs itself. It does set up a command and control server one of the commands. Apparently that it's capable of his race yourself now so there's some speculation. Maybe it's just a proof of concept.
Apple Retakes Smart Phone Sales Lead back From Samsung
"Meet the new boss same as the boss before the old boss literally ars technica has new numbers from market tracker gartner. That show apple retaking. The smartphone sales lead from samsung. Last quarter by the firms. Reckoning is the first time. Apple's beat sammy and handset sales since the holiday quarter of twenty sixteen. That said one quarter does not a year. Make actually need four quarters for that for the year. Gartner says samsung still beat apple and number of units sold. It's worth remembering as ars technica. Points out. apple released a slew of new phones in the holiday quarter. Samsung saw no flagship phones released in the fourth. Quarter of twenty. Twenty
Coinbase valued above $100 billion, ahead of direct listing
"All right all right. Listen progress star with the weekend and we're going to start with some news. That broke late last week. Actually kind of after. I logged off so i haven't talked to you about it yet. Coin based could be worth one hundred billion quote per a secondary sale organized by the company in quote. That's axios dan pre mac and premed former guest of the show actually reported that coin base had revenues of hundred ninety one million in the first three quarters or twenty twenty of one hundred and forty million.
Nearly 30,000 Macs Reportedly Infected with Mysterious Malware
"Technica has word of a malware mystery according to the site nearly thirty thousand max have been found with nefarious code or probably various once an hour. The report says infected. Max checking control server to see if there are any new commands. The malware should run or binary to execute so far however researchers have yet to observe delivery of any payload on any of the infected thirty thousand machines leaving the malware ultimate goal. Unknown lack of a final payload suggested them where may spring into action wants. An unknown condition is met. It's also got a way to completely remove itself from an infected machines according to ours. That kind of capability generally shows up and high stealth operations. According to the report. One more point of interest. There is a version of the malware. Out there for 'em one max. This is only the second piece of malware known to a fact the apple design processor security researchers at red canary found the malware which they've dubbed silver sparrow and a blog post. They say that we haven't observed. Silver sparrow delivering additional militias payload. Yet it's board looking m one chip compatibility global reach relatively high infection rate and operational maturity suggests silver sparrow is a reasonably serious threat uniquely positioned to deliver a potentially impactful payload that a moment's notice
How Poor Food Choices Lead to Depression
"I'm caroline hudson and a registered and licensed citation for many years and over these years. I have seen firsthand the impact. The foods people eat have on their body and of course their brain health so last week car us started the show with a great quote from dr. Alan are gay. He's the author of nutritional medicine. That's really a science nutrition reference book for physicians and healthcare practitioners. Here's what he wrote. And i quote big macs lead to zantac which leads to prozac so if you jin tier that quote last week i'm going to go into a little more detail about that. So eating big macs making poor food choices. Time and time again often leads to digestive problems gastrointestinal problems which will most likely require some kind of digestive medication. such as an tech or prior lasek. Nexium practice said. Tom's you know we all hear about those right. So taking any of these digestive medications often leads to an inability to break down or digest your protein and that's going to result in a deficiency of amino acids and you need amino acids to actually make neuro transmitters. Those are those you know. Feel good brain transmitters especially serotonin and deficiency of serotonin can actually bring on depression and may eventually bring about a need for an anti depressant. Prescription like prozac. So being a dietitian again for over years. I've had the opportunity to observe the impact that process food diet has had on the decline of people's health both the health of their body and the health of their brain
30K Macs are infected with ‘Silver Sparrow’ virus and no one knows why
First Malware Designed for Apple M1 Chip Discovered in the Wild
"Security firm e. said reports that threat actors have begun to work on. Apple's new m one. Max the ones equipped with apple's in house chips. The m one processors run on arm architecture a departure from cupertino former preference for intel x eighty six chips in the objective. C blog researcher. Patrick wardell summarizes his own analysis as follows quote. So we've succeeded in finding a mac. Os program containing native m one arm. Sixty four code that is detected as militias. This confirms malware adware authors are indeed working to ensure their militias. Creations are natively compatible with apple's latest hardware and quote researchers at red canary earlier. This month noticed some mac. Os malware that established persistence through launch. Agent they write quote our investigation almost immediately revealed that this malware whatever it was did not exhibit the behaviors that we've come to expect from the usual adware that so often targets mac. Os systems the novelty of this download arises primarily from the way it uses java script for execution something we hadn't previously encountered in other mac os malware and the emergence of a related binary compiled for apple's new. M one arm sixty four architecture. Red canary calls the activity. Cluster silver sparrow and says that for now at least it lacks payload they acknowledged work done on the malware by vm. Ware carbon black and malware
"mac" Discussed on Mac Power Users
"Yeah well i like you. I think I am impressed with what they've done. I'm not sure where the holes are because they've got so deep down the stack that i'm not sure mere mortals would know where they are but i'm sure there are still areas. They're pushing on. And i look forward to seeing future updates and encino. They can continue to walk the line but overall i think they've done a great job of the convenience or a security question in a lot of these changes have happened without most users even being aware that they exist. That's right and that's the way it should be right. I shouldn't have to think about when i get in my car like. Oh how does the traction until work. How does the airbag work. I just want to know that they're going to work or not. Need them and your computer should be the same way. Now you talked about the dialogues. Like the catalina dialogues being an area of concern for you. You know you overwhelmed the user. Are there any other areas as you see here today that you're particularly concerned about with mac security. I mean i think apple is doing more work and things like safari to keep your data safe. Private is a very blurry. Line between security and privacy. The way apple talks about it. But i think like what you're using chrome or firefox like the web is a huge vector and apple's a lot in safari but i felt get some other users may be being left out a little bit because apple's doing that and the browser level and not the system level but again like They're doing a pretty good job as a fiery insofar as pretty good so there definitely moving the ball forward and browsers just not. Everyone's browser i think. Also they did a really good job of the last few years of trying to lockdown email security. But it's the same problem you have to use their email app to get that. Sure all right well you know what gain a think. Hopefully you know a little bit. More about mac security now. If you don't ban your smart guy had a lot of knowledge coming into it we are the power users you can find. This relates dot in slash npr. Do we have a great active forum over at talk. Dot powys dot com. You might want to log in there. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of security related discussion on today's episode. We want to thank our sponsors smile. Squarespace and indeed. We will see you next week..
"mac" Discussed on Mac Power Users
"The big thing is if something goes wrong with t. Two or bridge less which can happen. Because bridge s itself gets updated all the time with regular mac os updates and on occasion. Those things can go wrong and Apple then basically let you either revive restore your mac. You need another mac usb c cable. You need apple configuration. Her on another mac. And there's some documents that walk you through how to do this. I had to do it only once and it was probably my fault. I was like goofing around with like early. Version of the big sur beta and tried to go back and like it all went sideways. Yeah most people everyday life are not going into this. But it's good to know that if you have issues where amac's not going to boot and you can't get into recovery mode and clearly. Something is just really messed up. This is available to you or to your service agent. You know if you go to the genius bar independent shop so but really i think for the vast majority uses the vast majority of the time. This doesn't get in the way. It makes your mac more secure in a way that you don't really notice now we're gonna talk in a little while about how some people in the enterprise feel about this or who maybe need to run a bunch of macs. Maybe some of this stuff is a headache but for the individual user or the small business. None of this absolutely going to get your way. Yeah does this. I know like for instance. There are some articles. I've been reading about apple. Silicon and like the nuke and pave processes changed. Because of all. This stuff is that is that minor. Is that correct yet. It's a little bit different and at least the time we were recording this in early january twenty twenty one some of it's actually a little bit broken on apple side but it is basically more or less the same because you sell recovery mode you get into a different way but once you're in recovery mode you have the same sorts of tools available to you. The big difference is that this is not a separate t to chip is built into the apple. Silicon chip again again. The sort people have asked you to time. Don't even know that. But i think it's super interesting that is built in and one thing they've added to all of this is that system record. Protection is running. All the time is any continuously even though the system is on a read only volume even though that system is cryptography signed and checked by apple it is now checked continuously during startup. So if you install an application you try to do something somehow and you run afoul of these rules. Then the mac knows about immediately and can and will prompt to address it. And so it's always got your back instead. Of just at startup will be clear on intel. It wouldn't find the problem until the next time you turn your computer on. How often do you re computer. I mean seriously. Like i very rarely reboot machines. I think most people don't very often this episode of the power users is brought to you by indeed go to indeed dot com slash. Npr you get a free seventy five dollars. Credit to upgrade your next job post hiring is one of those things that you do not wanna.
"mac" Discussed on Mac Minutes
"Apple introduced several new max powered by the revolutionary m. One the first family of chips designed by apple specifically for the mac. Apple's most powerful chip ever made 'em one transforms the mack experience with its industry leading. Performance per watt. Together with mcelwain. big sur. m one delivers up to three point. Faster cpu up to six times. A graphics processing unit up to fifteen times faster machine learning or commonly referred to as m. l. capabilities and battery life up to two times longer than before in with emlyn and big sur users get access to the biggest collection of apps ever for mac with amazing performance and remarkable new features the new lineup of 'em power. Macs are available to order. Today tim cook. Apple's ceo said the introduction of three new max featuring apples breakthrough 'em on chip represents a ball change. That was years in the making and marks a truly historic day for the mac and for apple. M one is by far the most powerful chip we've ever created and combined with big sur delivers mind blowing performance extrordinary battery life and access to more software and apps than ever before. We can't wait for our customers to experience. This new generation of mac and we have no doubt it will help them continue to change. The world finished cook. Let's now delve deeper into each of the new devices. Starting with the thin and light. Mac book air macbook. Air is apple's most popular mac and the world's best selling thirteen inch notebook with 'em one chip macbook. Air speeds do everything from editing family photos to sporting videos for the web. The powerful eight core. Cpu performs times faster than the previous generation with up to an eight core. Jeff graphics are up to five times faster the biggest leap for macbook air so immersive graphics intensive games run a significantly higher frame rates l. Workloads are up tough nine times faster so apps that use l. based features like face recognition or object detection can do it in a fraction of the time the one chip storage controller and latest flash technology deliver up to two times faster. Ssd performance so previewing. Massive images or importing. Large files is faster than ever and in mac book air. M one is faster than chips. In ninety percent of pc laptops sold in the past year with the industry leading power efficiency of 'em one macbook air also delivers performance in a fan. Less design which means no matter what users are doing it remains completely silent and the new back book air features extraordinary battery life with up to fifteen hours of wireless web browsing up to eighteen hours of video playback longest buried life ever on a mac book air
"mac" Discussed on Mac Power Users
"Are thanks to fresh books for support the show all right? Let's go from hardware to software in particularly the operating system Mac. Os Unlike IPAD OS. That's a year-old Mac. Os is a little older. It is Mac. Os Ten first. Public release was nineteen years ago. It's a lot of change. Of course a lot has changed but the bones are still the same right. You still use it the same way. They still the dock and the finder in the menu bar. I think for the most part if you sat somebody down in front of almost any version of Mac. Os Ten or MAC OS. They would be able to figure it out I. I wouldn't even argue if you took someone that went back on that original one. Twenty eight K. Mac they would be able to generally get around on the modern version made a lot of the paradigm are the same it is. It's amazing even from the classic Mac. Os Ten. How much shorter. Stay the same in Mac Os. Tin Really was a complete reboot. Right it was a different operating system. And they brought over a compatibility with some some old stuff but for a long time every year every version of macos. Ten wasn't every year the beginning every couple of years. It was like a big deal right like they added things like. Oh now we have a calendar application now. We have a browser. Now WE HAVE WINDOWS FILE SERVER. Stuff it really. They started very small. Th Th the thing. I was really struck by when I did. Those screen shots of the various macos. Inversions was how small like how there wasn't that much to the early versions. And you look at it now. It's it's obviously much more complex. But for long time they were just slowly building. Their house brick by brick. Yeah I I was the other day I had my tiger. I saw my tiger t shirt guy. Yeah getting in line you know tonight it released Hamas those days but I feel like for the longest time each year or two years they would release a new version and what they were dealing with was building a top and existing foundation like they would figure something out and the release. It came a few years ago. Didn't change that but added a new feature somewhere else in the operating system. Spotlight would be the exception. I feel like spotlight made continual improvements over many years but many of the features like okay. We've finished that now. We're going to tackle this other problem on our board and the thing you could rely upon as a user was the stuff that they fixed. The last time was going to stay fixed. You know For many years I felt like a a new software. Update might mean that I have something. That's a little buggy with respect to new features but the old features are going to continue to work and maybe I'm looking at it through rose colored glasses but I feel like a problem. They have now is that that's not necessarily true. I feel like things that work in one version of the operating system may break in the next version and granted. Much trying to be an apologist but I do understand that now. They're trying to work on multiple operating systems and make things talk to each other and now there's just a lot more moving pieces so it's easier to break existing things by adding new things. But that is I. Think a weakness in the operation of this point is you. Don't have that security in mind that everything's GonNa continue to work that worked before. Yeah I think that's true and it is easy to look back on old versions in. I remember when macos ten leopard came out if you were running like Servers Norton. Antivirus your machinist. When it boot any more right like they've been issues but I think the underlying thing which are getting to is that it is just so much more complex now the MAC. Os has to get along with its Iowa's and IPAD OS COUSINS. That cloud is basically got it soaks in tons of different parts. Yeah I mean it's all over the place and Mac Os and in some places. It feels like the old way of doing things in the new way of doing things or sort of in conflict. One of my least examples of this is in mail where you have in males preferences you have an account section but then also in system preferences you have a a web or online accounts section and. It's not immediately clear what you can do in each one. As why are these things in two different places like if you want them in a centralized location like it is an eye us? Get rid of this pain male. But they haven't I don't know why and it's just some of those things just feel like this. This there used to be one way to do things and now there's more than one way to do things and everything hasn't made the shift yet. Yeah I I think I'm male. I mean the things I heard kind of from from folks when used to go to W. W. C. Was that they done a lot of work under the hood and not so much. Easer facing work and probably. That's just on the list but I I do agree that it's just like You don't you just don't have the guarantee that I used to feel regressions or more common. And maybe that's just part of the price of admission in a world where you have all these cloud hooks in you have all these different platforms that needs to work with but I would like to see that. Get BETTER IMMI too. I think there's also maybe a cultural thing going on with Mac. Os where in the early days. Macos ten was you understood that it's user base. Pretty well right. There's a lot of students. It was a lot of artistic types and that was pretty much it because that was all apple pretty much had when macos since started but over. The years has grown MAC. Os has grown into a much more. Broadly used operating system and as that has taken place. Apple's had to add features. And now you have things in both first party applications that you didn't have before. I remember being a big deal and they added I cal- The calendar application. It's like Oh is part of the operating system is not. It's hard to tell and now the OS comes with so many things because people just expect that when they unblocks their first Mac book air for the first time and that has led led to a lot of complexity. And I think that there are. This is speculation. Just feeling on my part. So like don't read into this more than just that. It's my feeling is that I have the feeling that there are a lot of people at Apple working on Mac. Os projects that aren't that don't have the history of the Mac. Sorta flowing through their veins. Like maybe David Ervine I do and as that happens which is naturally the higher a lot of young talent. It's totally natural. But as that's happened what the M- what it means to be a good map or what it means to be a good MAC feature has slipped a little bit and look. I still believe Mac. Os is the best computing platform on the planet. I like that look. Maybe I'll switch to that like. I want to run MAC. Os as long. You know as long as they make it but it doesn't mean that it hasn't changed and some of those changes are bad but at the same time I think some of the changes are good. I think features that they've added over. Time have made the MAC a better place right. Things like notes for instance like a really good way to sync data between all my devices with the clouds. There's lots of good things that have added but it seems to come to the expensive stability ever at least every couple of releases. Yeah agreed and I think that setting aside stability. Let's assume they they fix that problem and I do believe they're working on it But you know what are other things that it could improve upon One for me is window management and And others comes up on the MPU podcast quite often but just the Bilton window. Management tools are are pretty bad Yeah yeah the APPS and Keyboard Maestro you can work around them which is one of the Nice things about the Mac but the But just the I thought well. I'll try again apple's because I don't have the extra monitors said well try and set up some additional screens and it's it's like handcuffing yourself when you use the built in system. It just doesn't even make sense. It takes extra mouse clicks. It's not as fluid. I mean there's really almost no reason to use it because it's only half done. I mean I feel like there. There's a bunch of work to be done on this operating system still. Yeah I mean just look at how mission control has changed over the years they've taken away and added and tweaked. Now you have split-screen APPs the last couple of years like they make very little sense in some context and yeah they're trying to add a lot of things to the interface. That aren't the haven't been there the whole time and some of them have worked better than others. I'm when they added spaces in Leopard Snow Leopard and thinking like Oh that's really cool but it wasn't for me but it for a while it was like a you have expose and you have spaces and the mission control kind of brought it all under one roof. And they've changed out a lot and yeah. Some of those features could be a lot better. But what is cool about MAC? Os is you mentioned. Move and and other applications where you can. Kinda do what you want in terms of things like window management and. There's no way that's going to happen on an IPAD right. That is a thing that is very specific to the MAC and one reason. I love the Mac because I can't tweak it in tune it to make it do what I wanted to do. So Catalina Yeah. Is it as bad as everybody says it is? I have many complicated thoughts. I think I think it is easy to to look at the death of thirty two bit. Apps and sort of how rough some of the catalyst APPs have been and say oh we're catalina is not a good update because of these things broke a lot of my workflows or the new catalyst. Apps aren't as good and those are fair and right assessments and I agree with those assessments. But if we take them off the table for a second we just look at. Catalina is an operating system and take away some of the other things that with it. I don't think it's any worse than the last couple of versions. I think at the OS level. I haven't had the USB audio issues that. I had sort of in the early mojave days. I haven't had some of the the weirdest stuff I had with high Sierra and the APS or the S for a transition so thank the OS itself is fine but.
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"So there are things out there that we haven't read yet, but in looking at the specs, the baseline MAC pro GPA is not as good as the GP you in my MAC pro, and I do a fair amount of four K video rendering does happen on the GP. So I'm afraid that to spec, the MAC probe where I would need it, it would just be way out of reach financially, I would like to own one, but I don't I can't say sitting here today that's going to be under my desk at the end of the year. I'm sure it would improve things, but it would be expensive. Yeah, I have no interest in it. I the MAC pro was there's a good argument. Made I didn't need the I MAC pro but VM, but just looking at the high end uses of the stuff I do have to say that every keeps using this term pro user, I feel like there's a lot of pro users that don't need and I- MAC pro. Oh, yeah. That's very that's already brewing, MAC pro. I guess, but the but at the same time I really appreciate that apple has definitely planted its flag and said, no, we are still here for pro users and the people who make some of the, the biggest and stuff can do it on a MAC. Absolutely. And also the MAC pro I've been so happy with that, I know you have to with yours. It's it really fits my needs really well, so I'm going to long and hard at it, but I would say that, it's, it's not extremely certain that, that I'll do that. And part of that is gears a little bit part of that is the display. I like John Syracuse so would want the whole package and that display is, is beyond what I what I need to do. Because again, if you think about who apples building this for if you're talking about, like video production, work chain stuff, where you're spending that money that reference monitor I don't have those needs that monitor is extreme overkill. For me. I do wish that they had something more, forcible, that didn't have all this features, but they don't do every day and, and that is plays not in my future. Maybe like thirty years when I can pick one up for the collection until then there's not going to be that display on my desk. And that does make me wonder what I would hope the MAC pro up to there's lots of good options out there. But you know, could I live as MAC power? Co host with ace monitor like. I sleep at night, knowing that's in my studio waiting for me every morning. I when I was walking around the, the MAC pro demo Paul they had these monitors on every station, and they look like my monitor to me, they didn't look that different. And I was having trouble computing wise this, so expensive and let me just say, I'm not a monitor guy, I don't keep up with this stuff, and then as I said, in the interview with Doug when I got to the photo station and I saw, you know, used appropriately and I had a live sample next to have my, my monitors never close to look that good. But I feel like apple has kind of their victim of their own success. Because the monitors in the I Mak are amazing like I bought a second monitor to put on the side of my MAC, right? I bought four of them, and I shipped Amazon, I just kept shipping them back because I couldn't get one that was even close. And Finally, I said, well, this is the best of a bunch of junk, that's the one ended up using. Yeah. And so, so I think for a lot of us, it's like, well, we can't buy. An I MAC looking monitor. There's you can't go to Dell and get one of those in that panel is so good..
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"There's one less thing. I I will mention while we're talking about this remote connection. If your MAC mini is headless that would mean, it's not hooked up to a display MAC OS will set the default resolution pretty low, and so when you remote into it, it may be sort of difficult to get around. And so there's a little HDMI adapter. Our friends at MAC stadium came up with this and found it, and it's basically just a little it's just a little dog'll that plugs into the HD my port, and it basically tricks the MAC mini into going into. To ten eighty p. So when you log into it remotely, the resolutions, a little more usable. So I use this on our headless MAC mini that we have with relay and it works. Great. I can connect with screens and everything it's a nineteen twenty eighty a really usable size, and it's like nine dollars on Amazon is pretty pretty hard. It's just it's just a little plug, and it's like a half dollar Idi bitty. So if you if you run into that where you're remolding in and the resolution is not where you want it to be then this may solve that problem for you. It's called the compu- lab display emulator at that. That's just a cool name as a great name. I think I just need to get one. Just for just for the name. This episode of the MAC power is brought to you by saying box. We all have Email. We all have too much Email, and it can be difficult to set up the filtering or the rules that we were talking about to make it manageable. As we're saying box comes insane box is really smart. And it learns what Email is important to you..
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"And then put it on arm, and that was cool. And you kinda can't do that now. But with the I MAC pro you can it is a little bit of a strange decision. I think the feedback they got from pro customers was that, you know, these kinds of systems often get mounted on a wall or on an. Arm and they wanted that versatility rather than having it be like either one or the other. And once you get it. You're stuck with it. Yeah. And before we move on because both the I MAC pro in the I MAC are a little long in the tooth. If someone's listening in thinking about getting a new one any advice. You know, I I'm sure there will be an I MAC update, I'm MAC pro update at some point. I'm I think more likely the IMAX will get updated in the next six months. The MAC pro might think Intel is working on a news EON processor that might be good in this. But it would not surprise me. If this has a long upgrade cycle where it might be another year. Plus before we see something. I mean, I hope not, but it could happen. It's it's it's still to this day. I mean, it's an incredibly powerful MAC. It's basically the most powerful MAC you can get. And if you want that kind of power, go out and get it, obviously in two thousand nineteen the the new MAC pro will come and that will have its own. You know, it will it will take that crown. Right. And that so if you can wait you can find out what the the MAC pro has to offer. And then also there's the new MAC mini, which is depending on your needs can be specked up to be a pretty powerful system. It's. Own self. And even if you graphics, you could stick an e P you on it. So there's lots of things you can do with that. So the it's more complicated now than it was a year ago when this was very clearly the MAC to buy if you wanna powerful MAC, but I do love it and for a certain audience who doesn't really care about the needing a modular MAC pro with an external monitor or anything like that. It is is pretty great. I love it. I have no regrets at year later, and I do suspect that macro is going to be a lot more expensive than the gonna be a five K, MAC pro. And for people who are looking to to buy out there, where do you think they get the most bang for their buck now where where should you spend your dollars? If you're going to be configuring your machine is it on ram on updated processor is it on a bigger hard drive. I mean, I know depends. But if you're your dollars are limited and you've got to put them somewhere. Well, I mean, it does depend I feel like ram is probably the best place to start. If only because it's a lot easier to do outboard storage like buying an external SSD is it's not cheap, but it's not super expensive. And it's also pretty easy. You could even Phil Crowe it to the back of your I MAC, for example. Right. Like, you can get out outboard storage pretty easily or if you've got network attached storage. There are lots of ways to go. I don't think you necessarily need multi terabyte SSD inside depending on what you're doing. But I think that ram it's harder to to update that although on the on the I MAC it's easy to. Update that so you can models that after the fact on the pro I should say, and yeah, the twenty seven inch five K, I MAC as well. There's a little door that you can get access to that's got the ram modules in it. So so, you know, I think in most cases the processor updates are not the best deal. But on some of the MAC mini models. I think the processor updates can be very good because the base model is an I three, and although it's pretty fast. It's an I three and you can get up to an I seven for that. And likewise on the on the I MAC pro depending on the workload you're doing. I have I have several friends who have the ten core model and Phil they felt like that was the best kind of price performance option for them. And so I can see it there too..
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"Big thing in the gaming space and of course steam as we mentioned earlier is awesome but as the as david mentioned and as the apple insider points out it's pretty shallow when it comes to mac titles and i've gone in there i have to admit to look for things i bought fire watch which is a great game for the mac through steam but you go in there and you see all these great titles and you start shopping around and you realize that a very small percentage of them are actually available to play on the mac and steam link which is this thing that will be great once it gets approved on the app store it will only still only run mac based game swit steam link does is it allows you to use your device or your apple tv to play a game over the net work that actually uses the processors in the gp on your mac and then just kind of almost an airplay style thing puts it up on your apple tv and allows you to say like a bluetooth controller that actually interact with and play with the game on the apple tv so it's kind of like having a consul in your house but the processor is actually your computer and they were steam was rejected i think last week the app was rejected because it had in purchase and it was violating the app store rules for an app purchases so apple's been working with steam they've resubmitted without that functionality in there a note saying that purchases of games are need to be made on a mac or pc and it probably will be approved soon maybe by the time you hear this episode so that is another option but you know everything is still kind of a little bit and this is sort of what the apple cider is pointing out is still this little janke kind of work around especially on the mac so you know mac gaming it's never been a big thing it's gotten better it's now maybe influx it sounds like it's a little bit still kind of tough for for hardcore gamers out there so i'm still curious to get a lot more your feedback on this that's why i'm continuing the conversation this episode so if you have something to say send me an email mac cast at g mail dot com another thing that came up this week somewhat i think semi related to this is.
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"The great features and i said it didn't have a mac version you think even alluded that maybe with the new features of of ios porting that we saw at worldwide developer conference that maybe they would put it to mac we'll guess what it's already on mac i should have searched the mac apps or i didn't i went to the developer's website and and in my own defense if you go to the website it's not really obvious that they have a mac version if you scroll all the way down to the bottom you do see a mac with a screen shot and down in the lower right hand corner there is the mac apps store button but prominently at the top of the website is the irs at but so it's the same price for the mac version is as it is for the ios version nine ninety nine us but you can get notably for your mac and many of you wrote into tell me how much love notably on the back so it's got a great endorsement from the mac community so if you're looking for note taking app and you're evaluating different ones that is one to look into and thanks to everybody who wrote in to make sure that i didn't miss that i really do appreciate it another thing i talked about on the last episode of the mac cast was the fact that i have come around and resolve myself to what in days passed i called the new apple order the fact that more and more apps are going to be moving to the subscription model as a way to gain recurring revenue and kind of deal with the fact especially in iowa that they don't have the ability to sell app upgrades discounted upgrades to customers and i said you know i actually kinda like it especially when it turns out what i might spend in a given year is the same amount that i would normally spend on that app when i buy it outright and then because i typically if it's an app that i love and i really use new version comes out there's not even any hesitation i'm just always buying it anyway so i'm paying that upgrade price so you know the ability to give the developer money every month no that they've got a more sustainable stable revenue coming in and they can roll out new features whenever they want i think there is some advantages to the subscription model and i asked for your opinion on it and jill wrote in to share some of her thoughts on specifically why she's not a big fan of apps christians and as she points out what happens when i can't afford the subscription anymore right if you don't pay.
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"I hear title games getting ported to the mac again not anything that i think we're not all that used to even with these technologies like open jail and open sale just because of the size of the mac gaming market it's not something that a lot of companies in developers really target we get a lot more stuff on irs because it's a larger platform but certainly on the desktop on the mac we've dealt with these things for a long time but there is some concern in the community that apple forcing developers onto metal is going to push things back in the other direction because we have seen some growth in recent years right it's gotten better for mac gaming and the concern is by deprecating these api's or deprecating support for open jail and open seal that we might be taking a step back so a lot of that was being talked about in the community this week i am not huge gamer so this doesn't impact me all that much so my general feeling on it is that you know games that run on metal in metal to perform much better on a mac i think the experiences are much better on a mac and again because apple hasn't been actively supporting the latest versions of open jail i don't see this as as big an issue as the community may be making it out to be but i'd love to hear from some of you who are gamers specific gamers who game on the mac how do you feel about this because we did just get to the point where we have you know external gpa support and that should be huge for gaming but if you can't get the titles you want because the developers don't wanna build for metal or metal to i guess that's a pretty big deal that could be pretty disappointing i have a feeling though we're still going to get those top tier games we're gonna get the big titles that most people want and it's more of the indie stuff and i like a lot of the indie stuff don't get me wrong but i think a lot of the india any stuff ends up showing up on us just because of the potential marketplace so i think there's kind of balanced there but i could be totally wrong on this stuff shoot me some feedback send me an email.
"mac" Discussed on MacCast - For Mac Geeks, by Mac Geeks
"Rotating log files all those sorts of things again my favorite tool for that clean my mac three it has all that stuff built into kind of a single application i also use cocktail from maintain that is a great bit of software for running those it does cost and so if you want a similar functionality but you want it for free you can check out onyx which has been around for years and just make sure you get the version of cocktail or on exits appropriate for whatever version of your operating system that you're running because they are tweaked to be operating subsists operating system specific so they'll have a mac os high sierra version the have a mac os sierra version whatever when you might be running you want to make sure you grab that one but those are great utilities to and i run those occasionally if i'm starting to see beach balls you know i'll clear out the cash files i will rotate the log files linnet do its thing a lot of that stuff should happen automatically on your mac and like said it's got your mac is got has gotten better and better at doing those things but occasionally you might wanna do that manually in these are great tools and utilities for doing that but there you go that's kinda my tips on doing spring cleaning and maintenance on your mac if you have anything that i missed let me know about it is there some little trick or tip that you have that i didn't cover shoot me an email mac cast at g mail dot com.
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"Am i being too alarmist i i wouldn't limit it to just those three apps because there are other good ones but i i would just say be careful let's talk about it because we always get asked and if we don't address it up front we're going to get asked about it what is our stance on antivirus and anti malware for the mac so where are you twenty teen i don't use either so that that's the short answer the short answer is no the the longer answer is it has been probably more than twenty years since i've run any kind of antivirus software on my mac not since the nine days have i run any antivirus software on my mac that day may come but we are not there yet the the reason is i have found that generally it is not very good that the usually this a situation where the cure is worse than the disease there are generally not many true quote unquote viruses out there for mac that would be caught by an antivirus software and that having an active antivirus software that is running in the background of your mac is going to be resource intensive probably is not going to catch anything and is probably going to make your user experience pretty poor i have occasionally if there is.
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"No problem easy peasy right well it didn't turn out to be so simple that's how it's worked for me mostly in the past but this time around i brought it up from my clone hard drive that wasn't the problem held down the option key selected the carbon copy clone dr and sure enough it booted right in to my operating system off the external but almost immediately after booted up and it did take a little bit longer to boot up of course because that's a spinning hard drive usb three external drive that i use in my mac pro has superfast sst that wasn't a problem but once i was logged into my account things started to get really strange i started getting massive beach balls i could barely move the cursor around the the mac the system turn out to be almost completely unusable i was baffled by this i was like what is going on as something on wrong with my backup i ended up trying my super duper clone because i have one of each and that didn't really change things still getting beach balls and stuff like that what i denny fide ultimately as being the problem was one i have been spoiled by the speed of the sst so some of that was just you know running on external spinning drive it was a little bit slower but the bigger issue was that my mac and the operating system was now responding to that clone as if it was like a whole new mac like i completely swapped out the hardware.
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"Complex in that device that's not the sort of thing that i i'd be i'd kind of instinctively would want to have happen on the mac only because i know how i know how hard it is to keep a desktop computer running whereas the nas is just isn't really designed to be this interactive device it's been optimized to just be a computer that always stays on that always works there's when you download new software for all of that is optimized for all you want to back up great we will set up here's a backup solution that will automatically keep this completely insane with with a remote backup server or with a usb drive you have here it never it never gets confusing about where you need to what what's offering need to install our high you need to set it up so and i don't know maybe part of it is just complacency it's it's a nice division of labor for me and i haven't seen any to change it yet and also i mean we're gigs it's it's fun to play with anez and it's fun to play with kind of a mac mini that you now do you run your mac mini kind of as a mac replacement i mean you you have screens and keyboard and all that stuff attached to it yeah i i used as a mac mini right now i have two screens on on arms connected to it really good like clicky clack keyboard a stack hard drives a stack of of input devices on it it's like i said it's it's too big of a tangle of stuff to have to take this apart but back together again this episode of the maquis power users is brought to you by gazelle the trusted online marketplace for buying and selling used electronic.
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"You can get it for way less money five case still get a great computer evan okay this is the you're the only person i ever asked this question on this show last question it's been three years is there any game and i it pick any apple platform is there any game that i should be aware because i don't buy games until you tell me too apple platforms home did you play fire watch when it came out i was aware of it but i haven't played it yet that i think is the it's not a mac exclusive game um i'm is he finshes elbow mac me say well you can looks up so it's very difficult in this in this multiplatform world like they're they're pretty much they're very very few mac exclusive games so mostly what you're asking is there some popular game that came out recently that also happens to version that runs on the mac even fire watch which was made you know in in cooperation with partially funded by panic makers of transmitted and many other fine mac applications they they helped make fire watch but power watches available for consoles and for pc and also for the mac so they go where the market is you have to it's a abs if you're looking for but if you look for some kind of mack pedigree fire watches what i would suggest if you just looking for a game recommendation in general especially for you know that that i've been may be velenjak what remains of youth finch uh may be available on the mackin steam maybe even if it's not you should play on whatever platform it's available if you can.
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"It's not it's not as if the interfaces again reunified is not as if max are gonna become big ipads side i mean i could happen but i think they would happen by the macklin dying off but if the keeps the keep the mac line around if they are determined to keep the mac line around instead of having iowa's expand to take over all the functionality the mac which is the other possibility for the keep the neckline around they will have to find a way to make it a viable platform for a world of people with like you know with thousands are tanovic who made millions of iowa's developers and aaa much smaller and i would imagine shrinking number of mack developers rant so something has to be done about the mac apple has a lot of options in this area and all of them should be able to allow folks like us to continue to use max or things that are like max in a similar way keyboard mouse screen windows like i feel like that can survive any technical transition but this specific matt pack mac platform can't survive without developers writing applications for it and to make that continue to happen apples going to have to add more technological sharing between iowa amac they'll sell the rumor may actually be good for the mack i guess we'll just wait and see but if you can make it easier to make america that would hopefully lead them were mac ups so long as they're they're actually made for the mac and not just ports of something else yeah i mean i i you have to be over the idea of what constitutes a mac out in change i mentioned the ileife apps and iot apps were nothing like the best mac apps and classic mac os the back the best mac apps available for your mack to see i or whatever did not look like any of the live apps it's possible to change what the definition of a good compelling mac application is that can continue to happen so i think it is possible to make an apples tried a few times to make a mac applications that brings some new ideas a lot of them bring ideas injuries that he is from iowa us not all which are particularly appropriate so maybe they're not successful but the apple should keep trying.
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"To do but just as the plain old mac user every aspect of the magazine bring system it's like should be up for grabs for you know potential improvement until recently i talked a lot about window management uh there are plenty of things you can do related to window management that could be good ideas like in the beginning of the mac we saw other macro we saw a lot about these classic macro has had its way of doing things amac was ten km walk it had a bunch of new ideas it had the duck which was a things not existing classic mac us and the dock evolved over time expose which is things did not exist in classic mac loss for way to manage windows it adopted spaces which is an idea from many previous systems of like virtual desktops as of and it refined that idea dashboard another idea of how you could have things that are kinda like the successor's but not really like in the early days of mac os time they tried all sorts of new and interesting things there's no reason you have to stop doing that is not as if our we've tried those things and now that's at everything is done every one of those things before a long you could have said well you don't need any the us you've got everything but this you know that there's always new things to try new things experiment with the most of those are not like oh you need a new colonel or something like that their user land features right or even just the applications different kinds of applications different miles for applicant has before the ileife applications came back mac apps didn't look like that there was a new idea how to make a good mac up all make it one window and make it simple and you know whether you like it or not it was an interesting new idea of how to write america versus the old world multiple in those in power and stuff like that that kind of change has slowed to a trickle in the mac and has nothing to do with the mac being like that like there's nothing more to do so the end of history illusion like now we're done no is just states stopped putting time and money into which again may be appropriate given their prospects of their other platforms.