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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The First Degree

The First Degree

06:23 min | 4 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The First Degree

"There is an incredible platform. I think is not only an incredible platform. It is Keisha as well for future generations do know the this critical issues do exist still now in. These discussions are particularly timely. Given what's happening in the current state of the world especially now with a winning the unfortunate result so coronavirus or cold at night teen Is is really affecting the rice domestic violence and sexual violence cases among women So many women feel that they're trapped in their homes with their abusers so as as survivor of domestic violence. I understand at first hand about the issues and I want to help the victims and I wanted to do provide by providing resources and in guidance. Oh my story is relatable In so many levels especially now like I said so. It's very important to to have this Communications about this critical issues open. Lorraina took back her maiden name Lorraina Gallo. She resumed working in salons and she quietly started dating a man named David. And she's still with David to this day more than twenty years later and they eventually had a daughter named Olivia. I found that people were my friends. Were very supportive. My community was Yeah I mean they recognize me. I never move out of my community. Because if I move I will be recognized everywhere You didn't affect my career. Thank God I was idea real estate for a while I was the I went back to the beauty industry as A. I went to school than I have my license as a hair style and I did hair for leaving for a while and then I went to school and school. Obviously a lot of people recognize me Just based on my face away I going to change myself so I learned to accept the fact that I did not choose to be in the spotlight Right now and the fact that but I stopped myself was very strengthened. Was One of my My strength they kept me through who I am and those pass a might lives. My my trauma actually have helped shape the person that I am today and you know he have actually understand the give me a platform to help others so When I met my partner obviously he knew who I was and so friendship. Friendship turning to respect and respect turning to love and you know. That's that's how he was. I didn't experience with my with John. In Two Thousand Seven Lorraina started a nonprofit called the Lorena Gallo Foundation which is an organization focused on helping to prevent domestic violence through family oriented activities and more years past awareness and condemnation of domestic violence increased as women started pushing back for their rights. The view of Lorraina also shifted and the more time passed the more. It was clear how terrible Lorraina was treated not only by John but by the rest of the world to they have grown more in but this generation will you know memory. I mean I'm talking to you. Your were problem not even born. I Dunno you've you look very young Thanks Lorena. So you know the time that We talking about almost thirty years so I think that the new generation has grown to be more empathetic more sympathetic about the stories and more curious and you know more women into rice. I mean we have more politician women in Congress so the hell lot and to shape the narrative about abuse women and As important I know when my store is and I was looking to get approach by Amazon Last year and They did a very good job. I'm happy with Doku serious Jordan Peele was wonderful his his a man who has a lot of social issues so I trusted him and the whole team of Amazon by then Same thing with a lifetime. Lifetime is an amazing network and day history of telling stories. They're relate to two people and they're very three. The story is the real stories with sensitivity. I think that that is actually Got My passion back to to even tell even more than I know that there are going to treat my story with sensitivity and respect in the lifetime project that Llerena is referring to is called. I was Lorena Bobbitt. And it premiered on Memorial Day two days ago on the lifetime network. I'm doing good. I'm doing fine. I I am happy blaze. I am in a better place I don't leave you know in the past I think the past did have helped me to save the person that I am today and have given me a platform to be able to help other women and You know anybody who is in an abusive relationship so is Is Good is good. Now we're going to keep my mission to help. Victims of domestic violence survivors because survivors. Also.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The First Degree

The First Degree

08:15 min | 4 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The First Degree

"They didn't general the jury. Let me thank you for the time and effort you put into this matter. And he's taken to this time. I'll have all parties to remain in the courtroom and be quiet and what a lot of people don't realize don't remember is that Lorena Bobbitt was actually found not guilty and she was found not guilty due to insanity causing an irresistible impulse to sexually wound John so as a result of that she could not be held liable for her actions. Yes that is correct. I was fine no guilty. I don't have any criminal records and A lot of people think you know I went to jail or went to prison for a long time or you know what happened. Really so We actually we both file out not guilty. Hey stew over. He was accused of marital rape. The most interesting thing about this is that I didn't know she was found not guilty. I didn't just from from everything I heard again me. Jack were too young for this to understand and and watch the trial but I had no idea just because what you hear about her. The jokes that are made the the assumption is that she was found guilty in. Probably got in trouble for this. But that's not actually true rape raid. It doesn't matter it's a crime in victim the victim so whether he's a women or is child you know to get a sexual assaulter. Why Dave Make Fun of of me? Why fate make fun of Omega songs about about it and and take it you know but that is the culture. There will event people were uneducated about domestic violence at the time now. There is awareness more people more advocates educating our society and that is great seat so after the trial the media obsession with John and Lorena didn't taper off. That's because from one side. There was an uproar over. Lorraine his acquittal and there was also resounding support for her acquittal on the other side. Women's groups from around the world saw this as progress if immigrant woman from Central America can be acquitted for castrating her white husband after she was sexually assaulted after a relationship of abuse in small towns Virginia. Then maybe this meant things. Were changing celebrities. Politicians from all over the world were weighing in. Everyone had an opinion and it showed up and a lot of places in pop. Culture was actually the cold open of the January Fifteenth Nineteen ninety-four episode of Saturday. Night live with Mike Myers playing John Wayne Bobbitt on the witness stand before another pop culture criminal Tonya. Harding comes by and beats his crotch repeatedly with a bat and the media coverage continued but there was only one of them who is stoking. The fire under Virginia Law a contingency of his acquittal was that since she was declared insane during that brief time period when the incident occurred she needed to undergo a psych evaluation and she was sent to a mental hospital for forty five days after those forty five days. Were up the core and her doctors reevaluated. Her mental state and they ultimately decided that she was no harm to herself or to others and she was released and while this is all happening. John was making the rounds on the talk show circuit. He was a guest on radio shows and TV segments and then six months later he made a really bold move right so after the trial John moved to Las Vegas in there. He met porn legend. Ron Jeremy Clearly. Ron must have inspired him in some unique way because six months after the trial John starred in an adult. Some John Wayne Bobbitt uncut during interview with Vanity Fair. John explained of the adult film quote. A porno seemed like the best way to show. My Penis worked only wasn't all the way healed yet. I realize now that was the point. I really think it's worth discussing that John Bobbitt following the trial just did the mainly things publicly. He Whitney moved to a ranch and he was like a cowboy and he was like. Latte last swing cattle and doing interviews dressed as a cowboy. We get on your penis works. Well we did it and you know we will talk about this in killing time. About men just being blubbering idiot. Sometimes but it's like his manhood was literally cut off his body so for him. That's probably the biggest nightmare a man so it's like I'm GonNa do a porn and show. It still works and having to go get a horse in. I'm going to go women in a pornography film in. It's like to show that I'm still a man exactly. Yeah on the nose. John Bob too on the nose house. Now we've been more subtle like build a house shirtless or like building a house. Well and the thing. He didn't have a job either right so he probably was feeling quite emasculated for a while to maybe go go get a career. Put on a suit something. Get a nice pair of dress shoes. But he was also showing his true colors because shortly before the release of his porn John was charged with misdemeanor domestic battery against his new girlfriend. Kristina Elliott these charges for the supported. Lorraina side of the story. He served twelve days of fifteen day sentence but that negative press didn't sway John from still seeking the spotlight and trying to prove how much of a man he was. He made a second porn franken penis which made his debut in one thousand nine hundred eighty six now. Why would John do another porn? The world need to John. Bobbitt sex tapes probably not but John had agreed to do it after accepting an offer from Howard. Stern for reconstructive plastic surgery for his penis to enlarge it even further and he was not going to be turning that down gross. So Howard Stern talked about the case frequently on a show and he had John Bobbitt on his a guest in nineteen ninety-three for his New Year's Eve special and they raised two hundred fifty thousand dollars to help cover the outstanding costs surgery and in one interview Howard was quoted as saying and this is one of the most disgusting quotes. I've ever heard quote. I don't even by this whole story that he was raping her. She's not that great looking disgusting. It's it really is like one of the most enraging comments that I've probably ever heard my entire life but aside from all this like Howard stern trash. There was also a handful of incidents of copycat crimes after the situation and they're called Baba Mania and it was after the incident. Most of them were self inflicted wounds but it was a whole thing. That was happening. And there is also the bobbit worm which was a worm that taxes to pray with scissor like jaws and this is named after the case as well. So there's all this pop no it's an actual worm like a real worm that a real worm identify words of worm. Bobbitt's were bobbit worm. Come on signed his stoop better than that to better. That's crazy. No the you know the person that named it to probably like I got it. I'm so clever. Flimsy was probably a man so so eventually the media coverage of the Bobby did taper off but the pop culture implications were there to stay and while no doubt lorraina experienced great difficulty during this period in her life she managed to turn this entire thing into something positive and find a silver lining. So it's been Basically almost thirty years three thickets has passed since it happened. There was a documentary air last year about my story. The documentary that Lorraina is referring to is the Amazon Docu series. Lorena a now by doing a lifetime movie so.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The First Degree

The First Degree

04:14 min | 4 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The First Degree

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The First Degree

The First Degree

05:09 min | 4 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The First Degree

"So today's case takes us back to June twenty third of nineteen ninety-three Bill Clinton was president. That's the way love goes by. Janet Jackson was on the Charts and the movie. Jurassic Park was the top at the movie theaters and the setting for today's case. Manassas town northern Virginia which acts as a bedroom community to Washington. Dc resign twenty five miles away from the suburban area and the place is rich in American history. And it was the site of two civil war battles battle bull run by a rower and two and re-enactors often depict those battles near the MANASSAS national battlefield. Park. It's quiet and for the most part. It floats under the radar as far as scandals are concerned but all of that was about to change between two and three. Am On the twenty third of June nineteen ninety-three calls between law enforcement officers started ping pong in between one. Another in the information that was being shared was shocking and confusing. There was a man at Prince George's hospital who's bleeding profusely. What happened? His penis had been cut off. Did it is wife her name. Lorena Bobbitt this is a narrative that many of you know but what many of you won't be familiar with is exactly how this happened. How did Lorena Bobbitt become arena bob it and beyond that? What variables and Seidel implications contributed to the Lorena bobbitt phenomenon? We're all familiar with while to answer that. We need to go back to the beginning. Lorena Gallo was born in Ecuador in nineteen sixty nine before eventually moving to Venezuela where she was raised and it was during her childhood. There that Lorraina fell in love with American culture and this notion of the American dream so she decided she wanted to move to the US. She visited America when she was sixteen and she was given the trip to come visit as a consumer goofed and she just fell in love with life. Here when Lorraina got here. She didn't speak a word of English and she learned by taking. Esl classes in watching soap operas and the price is right on TV whenever she cut. She was here on a student visa and she started taking classes at Northern Virginia community. College between taking classes she worked as a manicurist salon owned by woman named Johnny Basuki in fact Jan owned three salons and she took Lorena under her wing and they became fast friends. It was details told near Quantico that Lorraina was approached by a handsome marine lance corporal named John Wayne Bobbitt. John was from Niagara Falls when growing up. His father was not really in the picture. And there's a few of the sad details about John's childhood was that his father drank and beat his mother which caused a really volatile environment by h three John and his two brothers were taken away from his mother due to drug use and neglect and they were sent to live with an aunt and uncle when John was old enough he enlisted in the Marines which ultimately brought him to Virginia which then brought into this dance hall where he met Lorraine and Lorraine was and still is stunning and exotic when the two met apparently the attraction was undeniable in an interview for the Amazon Documentary Lorraina. She said I thought John was very handsome. Blue is a man in uniform you know. He was almost like a symbol a marine fighting for the country. I believed in this beautiful country. I was swept off my feet. I wanted my American dream so they started dating and things moved quickly in the pair got married nine months later in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Their wedding small and performed by a justice of the peace and rain expected marital bliss to ensue. But that's not exactly what happened. So the domestic abuse started almost immediately and by ninety one John had been discharged from the marines and he found himself without a steady paycheck. And this prompted then twenty two year old. Lorraina to become the breadwinner of the family during this time. Lorraina worked as a nanny Virginia area and she continued to work at the beauty salon owned by her good friend. Janet and in this Amazon Series. Lorena said that one month after she and John remarried the to driving in the car and John started driving radically Lori and ask them to stop pleasing her hands on the steering wheel and trying to straighten out their route and it was in this moment that John allegedly punched her for the first time. And this wouldn't be the last time. More fighting ensued and escalated both called nine one one on each other but the violence continued and being the breadwinner. Lorraina felt immense pressure to provide for them to the point where she actually started embezzling money from the salon where she worked over. Seven thousand dollars and remember Jonah. The store owner who had become so close with the Raina. She realized what was going on. So she actually let Lorraina keep her job at the salon but made her payback the money with interest. You knew she was having these.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Court TV Podcast

Court TV Podcast

10:19 min | 5 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Court TV Podcast

"By reason of insanity not guilty Lorena. Bobbitt was found not guilty. Were you surprised? Yes because she did it but yes yes because it was a finding of not guilty by reason of temporary insanity which is so rare so unusual the only thing that makes it not surprising is again it comes back to who is my victim and does the jury like him. Does the jury believe him and the answer to both of those questions is a resounding no okay so just for our listeners. I do want to point out that the jury deliberated for seven hours. They found her not guilty due to insanity causing an irresistible impulse to sexually wound John. Okay that is the summoned substance so then she undergoes a forty five day evaluation by Central State Hospital which was in Virginia and after that she was released so go right so it's not as if she was a mentally ill and they kept her in the hospital for an unknown period of time. Which happens some when I was a prosecutor. One of my first jobs in the office was I was in charge of all. They called in New Jersey. The Kroll patients these ver- everyone in Bergen County New Jersey. Who was found not guilty. By reason of insanity these are people who have killed other people who have done all these different crimes and while they were no longer in car. They're not incarcerated but they're still under the jurisdiction of the judicial system and some were in inpatient programs outpatient programs. They'd have to check in with the judge every other month to see how they were doing but that didn't happen with her because she was fine. It was just in that moment of insanity that that she had so a a great a great result for the defense. Okay so now it's been twenty five years. Vinnie tell me. Do you think because I have a lot of thoughts on this subject. Do you think the verdict would have been different today? No not for her but remember. There were two trials. Okay I think in today's era of me too. I think there would be a greater sense of what rape is and that no means no and that any man or any woman who engages in that activity with someone who has said no can be found guilty so I would think in that first trial. Prosecutors would have a better chance of convicting John Bobby but I think the same result here because this wasn't a a case of hey this didn't happen. This is a case of what was her mental state and. I don't think there's anything happening today. That would harm her as someone who is alleged being sexually abused physically abused over the course of years. That would Make it easier to convict her. Because I think she'd be seen even more as victim today than back then. Well Okay so. This is a good point. You're bringing up was she seen as a victim. Men were mostly on his side. Okay and I thought that women would naturally beyond her side but forty five years ago twenty. Five years ago I thought every woman would-be on her side or was but no in fact when I did a lot of research on what was going on at the time and it sounds like working class. Women were on her side but intellectuals and activists who call themselves feminists were not on her side. In fact there was a woman Susan. Okay so she was a ucla. Law Professor and the Campaign Manager for Michael Dukakis was remember. Yeah I'm older than you so okay so you know what she said. That Lorena Bobbitt is a criminal. She's not a feminist heroine and she said those who flocks to the defense of Lorena Bobbitt. Were doing a disservice a disservice to battered women. Why would you not be on her side because of the violence because of the Violent Act? Okay are there. Are there other ways to respond to that? Is there a way to get away their way to go down and sign a complaint against him? Oh God complained. What is that going to do in the middle of the night when somebody's raping you? Listen vinnie person in the apartment that night by the way yes friendly. Tell his friend was. He's the one who drove John. Bobby who hospital that. I don't know what he's doing during all of this. That's a that's a great question. I don't know with all this screaming and everything else going on so he was also drinking though. So you've been passed out drinking buddy right drinking buddy but you know what listen. I'm going to be honest. This is not fair that people are criticizing her for being violent. When what else was she supposed to do? And I think in today's world it would have been different absolute been. I'll get back to if it happened in the moment of the attack or just after the attack I might be with you because it's it's more self defense but again there's this he's passed out drunk. He's at that point and now she's acting out either through insanity or through revenge the question is would the feminist have been with her now. I then back then if she did it in in the heat of the moment right when it happened right after the you think they would have been more on her side. Okay I just WANNA point one other thing and this happened after the verdicts the president and vice president of the women's Freedom Network in Washington DC. They wrote a letter to The New York Times editor. And these women read assignment and Kathy Young. And they said spousal abuse was not an excuse for legalized revenge. Okay so he did not believe her defense here. Here's here's where I think things would be different today. Social Media and I think it would have created this incredible divide in our country that everyone knew about this case back then but everybody wasn't exchanging their opinions on it and you know how today it's all about politics this all would have been about John Bobbitt's penis and people would have chosen sides and you're either with them or you with her and I and I think the fight on Social Media. If this happened today would have been To the extent that we're fighting about politics but it would wouldn't have been Democrat Republican. It would have been us against you guys so it would have been gender division. I believe for the most part there would have been. Exceptions would have been exceptions. But I think it would have created this incredible incredible divide. I just want to point out something also in all of this discussion because there were these let's say intellectual maybe more educated feminist. That's a good way to put it through the more educated feminists were saying okay. This is not a justification for violence in essence right but the problem was no one was saying how she could have gotten out of there. They're saying okay. Don't commit violence Call the police report it. Whatever but again look at this woman. She's a young woman she was. What at the time around. I think twenty four when the incident took place right. So she's yeah so she's she's young she. I believe was a green card holder right. That's where they had to get married so I don't think she was a citizen yourself. Not She wasn't making enough money she was working at the Nail Salon or she yes. She was doing something like that so she didn't have the means. So you have to really look at women in that position. Who and there's so many women like that in this world who are getting beat up who don't have parents or siblings or money or means or education or opportunity to get out and nobody talked about it that people are criticizing what she did being violent but then give me an alternative. Tell me how am I supposed to get out? And no one did call nine one one when he's passed out drunk. That's the answer for that night. You know there's another part of this. Because and we've we've done some of the punchier right and I'm comfortable doing those. Because of the life John Bobbitt has led and it's always about him however I think if this same thing happened today I think the late night comics would have to take a moment to pause before they started with the with the with the jokes and the reason being. You don't posit anything they do they do they do because I think it would be dangerous. I go tell your now joking about a situation where woman is alleging that she has been raped okay and you turned a the rape of a woman into a late night joke. How's that GONNA play on twitter? I withdraw my earlier statement counselor. You're right you're absolutely right because in this climate Jimmy. Kimmel wouldn't be able to joke about this. Not Not now. No you're in the climate of Metoo and political correctness and increase sensitivity towards women. You're absolutely right. They made jokes about him. She's alleging she's been raped and I think that's how it all ties together but I think at the end of the day. Though she's found not guilty he's found not guilty and they go on with their lives on the hot mess express. What a story. What a story of any it certainly was. It was so folks. If you feel like trials in cases like this you can watch us because we're on television on on the television. Yeah you can get a digital antenna. Make sure you SCAN IT REESE GANIC GET US. And we'll be delivering justice for you each and every day and of course every week here on the podcast put now. It's time to go. It's time to go. Thank you so much for listening. I don't want to cut it short but we gotta go. This podcast is a production of court. Tv COULD COURT TV DOT COM for more content trials on demand and to find out how to watch not in your area..

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Court TV Podcast

Court TV Podcast

09:31 min | 5 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Court TV Podcast

"Vinnie. What happened to it? Well where to go. Let's listen. This is actually the cross examination of Lorena Bobbitt at her trial by the Prosecutor. Going after her about what she did with it. And you WANNA get rid the as out yet so. There's two parts of this cross examination. I want to talk about the first. Is You know finding out what happened to his Penis. But the other part is in. This is a choice made by prosecutors. That you've got Lorena Bobbitt on the witness stand being cross examined by a woman because you would not want to have a man attacking Lorena Bobbitt on the witness stand. Oh yeah this was so well strategized by the prosecution so she throws out the window. The rest of the story is folks that don't know is that she actually caused the police right and does the right thing at that moment where it is points out. It's in the field somewhere so they've got search team out right so you do grid searches where you chair. Divide up and everyone's down there with the flashlights way. Can I tell you so I was? Obviously you know we've been reading up on this case and one writer whose name I I can't remember. Sorry but they wrote that officers. Were the area. They're clutching their loins. God what the amazing thing is right. They find it. They pack it in ice and bring it to the hospital. If she doesn't call police he's done. Oh yeah he's done and the doctors on record talking about that he said. Listen the only thing I can't. We cannot build a new one. The only thing that can happen here. Either we get it and we attempt to reattach it or we'll just so it up has is so Lorena Bobbitt did the right thing and I think looking. In retrospect you know maybe that helps. Maybe there's a moment of clarity away from the temporary insanity that she's alleging that Oh. I realized what I did hear. Well here's my problem with how she describes the throwing out okay. So she's saying that she doesn't realize it's in her hand until she's in the car the problem I have is so she cuts it off right so according to what she's saying she almost blacks out until she's in the car so it's this mechanical grabbing the keys leaving the house closing the door all of this time it's in her hand and she doesn't realize it's interesting all right. Let's go back in time now. Remember this is one thousand nine hundred three so we don't have those cars where you walk up to them and they automatically unlock so she has to unlock the door door. How do you do all? I don't understand I I really find that to me. It's all it's all. It's almost like Jodi areas. If you recall that trial Jodi. Arias talked about this fog. That she was in and the jury in that case did not by her fog story. That was just a cover so the question here is is is she covering What she does actually remember by saying. I don't remember it because she doesn't want to remember it. Exactly it's just very hard to believe that you go through all the steps from the cutting to the actual throwing out and just mechanically like you described having this thing in your hand and then of course juggling. The keys was there goes to her credibility now I think it goes against her credibility. Yeah Yeah Yes yes yes yes yes so now right so now for people don't know there's a nine and a half hour surgery that takes place. Yeah it's miraculous not only miraculous. It gives John Wayne Bobbitt. A new career as an adult film star. Really yes yes. So he made two movies. One is called Uncut and he made a second movie. Vinnie to move to more than the second one was Franken. Here's the problem and looking back at this case from where now this is our John. Vob took this and turned it into his fifteen minutes right his fifteen minutes of fame and he made these movies he was a regular on Howard. Stern turned him into the celebrity. And I think all the things that he did afterwards made it easier for us to giggle about what happened to him of course but okay wait. Two things number one. Did you know he was in a band? Oh okay do you know what the band was called? The band was called severed parts true story. I'm not making this up then I read it. It's true okay. So that's what instrument did he play. I I don't know. Can we put them the next podcast? I'll I'll often dedham to this podcast but also what you were saying is because of what he did after after you know the incident and his films and everything and Howard Stern. That made it more of a joke. I may disagree because at the time people the late night comedians. Everybody was talking about the media. They say that Bob at jokes became a national pastime so he profited off the jokes that everybody was already making. Did he did now for Bobbitt. You know he didn't put himself in that situation of the loss of his right right but he created this situation with his wife. So it's really bizarre place because there's alleged criminal behavior back and forth and he ends up being celebrity. She ends up being celebrity. They hire publicists. What criminal defendants are hiring? Publicists in the midst of of their cases is complete insanity. But I think that happens now right criminal defendants higher having publicist not really now. I don't think okay. Okay I guess unless there are celebrities already but right now let's get back to the trial okay because prosecutors had a theory here in their case and it was all about motive right. Why did she really do it and prosecutors had their own version? That had nothing to do with temporary insanity. Take a listen the brand earlier that if you ever found out he had an affair you would cut his penis off printing. Your in yet never sat back revenge. Revenge is the real theme of the Prosecution case here that she didn't do it because she was an abused woman. She didn't do it because she was temporarily insane. She did it because she wanted to get back at him. Wait a minute wait a minute. Wait a minute. She didn't say yes. I said that no in fact she said no. I did not say that. Ma'am no Ma'am no so what? You're doing exactly what you're not supposed to do. Which is what which is take the answer you want from the question now from the anthrax examination is all about the question. It's not about the answer you know that. And you know they've got someone else. She's got a prior inconsistent statement. Where she was talking about this and you brought up the other inconsistent state police where she wasn't sexually satisfied by her husband who always satisfied himself. She wasn't satisfied. So was this an act of spite and revenge rather than what she said. Which was. I didn't know what I was doing. All these flashbacks. You know actually now that I think about and this goes to your point because as officers of the court. We are not supposed to ask questions that we don't have a good faith basis to ask so I would like to believe that. The prosecutor asked that question because she did have direct information. That Lorraina told a friend if he ever had an affair that she would cut his penis off so so I understand right. I understand your and that's and that's consistent with the statement that she made to about the sexual satisfaction that there's she's not satisfied with the way the relationship is going and this act of going after his penis had everything to do with a vendetta with revenge and it was purposeful and she had thought about it before it. Wasn't this sudden irresistible impulse. No it was plan that she had based upon this volatile relationship where he was cheating on her and flaunting it in her face. These two belong on the hot mess. Express Okay Vinnie. We've discussed the prosecution's case but it's time to look at what Lorena Bobbitt 's lawyers came up with for her defense and we'll do that.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Court TV Podcast

Court TV Podcast

11:43 min | 5 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Court TV Podcast

"The views and opinions expressed in. This podcast are simply that opinions. All are presumed innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law sensitive topics are discussed discretion is advised a twenty four year. Old Woman is home alone in bed. Man Enters the apartment. She says he rips off her clothes and brutally rapes her. That man her very own husband. He falls asleep in the bed. She goes to the kitchen grabs at twelve inch. Filet knife returns to the bedroom and slices off his penis twenty five years ago. One trial caught the attention of America and quickly became one of the most talked about cases ever and this is a court. Tv podcast special. The trial of Lorena bobbitt welcome to the court. Tv podcast pollen along with Sima Ire. Who is seated with me and Sima you ready to do something a little different special special. I think it's different. We're all yeah and I think it's an opportunity for us to kind of go into the court. Tv vaults and and reminisce and take a look at a case that people will never ever forget Vinnie. It's been twenty five years since the crime that forever put terror into the hearts and bodies of men everywhere Oh absolutely myself included and I think a lot of people think they kind of know what this story is about. Sure me too. But I don't think they really know the whole procedural history in terms of what happened in different courtrooms in this case and of course we're talking about Lorena Bobbitt who sliced off her husband's penis there. I said it I said okay. It's out there now. Listen just for my mom. Say can we spend the rest of this podcast using the Pena's word and not me? You said it seems so now. She's already mad so I think people kind of know the story right. She claims that she was abused in a battered woman. She claims that she was attacked by her husband. And then the story is in defending herself or an acting out. She slices off her husband's penis and then discards it right and people know that she was tried for this. That's right she was but what we don't know is that he was tried for this. There are actually two different. Trials to different indictments two different sets of charges. And she's indicted. I write because she sliced off her husband's penis right so she gets indicted. I but then. There's a lot of backlash about that. Indictment and people looked a little closer into the entire circumstance surrounding this relationship. And what happened that night and as a result of that he gets indicted so she was indicted for malicious wounding. Which you know. She's facing up to twenty years in prison for that but the same prosecutor and this is really unusual right for a prosecutor to go after one person and then indict the victim of that crime but the thing is when it comes to this. It's almost like a pseudo cross complaint right so he falls complaint against her. She falls a complaint against him. And at least in my background one prosecutor would have handled oath indictments would have to right to your jurisdiction and everything else so. He is now indicted for malicious assault of her and procedurally his trial even though he's indicted second his trial happens. I in November of nineteen ninety-three and it was a short trial. Three days jury deliberates about four hours. That's quick that super-quick and also he went to trial pretty quick because the incident took place on June twenty third nineteen ninety-three so for him to November that is fast at super fast most of the cases that we cover a court. Tv takes year- years sometimes three years for these things to get to trial but it happens quickly and he's found not guilty of the militias assault. Which was the alleged rape of his own wife. But why isn't he charged with a sex crime? Well there's a couple of things going on here. The first thing is is that Back then in Virginia to be guilty of a marital rape. You'd have to be living separately. And at the time they are actually living together they had an on again off again relationship at split up at different times but at the time of this alleged rape. They're living together. So you're telling me at that time in that state a husband couldn't be the rapist of his wife. That's what you're telling me. No unless there was severe physical injury that would be the only factor and that was not found in this case and I think times have changed a little bit but you know what I think we have to listen to Lorraine. `As side of the story about what happened because you say if there wasn't serious physical injury okay. Well let's listen to this because she sounds like she's saying something else. I wanted to say. Listen to me. He sent me go to pull down under his foot on doors down and force himself into me. My Vagina was ripping over. I can describe. Maybe you understand your man. Averages advance you could hear to tears. You can hear the struggle to get out the words. What what do you make of that? I I think it's real. And the experts on both sides of this came to an agreement at the time that they believe she was a battered woman that she was an abused woman and we know there were prior calls to the house so we know this is a volatile relationship. They met when she was nineteen and he was twenty one. She was new to this country. She grew up in. Venezuela and came to this country he was in the military and I think there's a combination of things going on here a lot of immaturity On both of their behalf but clearly something was being done to her and then this is talking about what happened that night and it seemed very real. It does seem real from the way she's telling us I just could feel especially as a woman. The way she's describing the ripping. I could feel her pain and I'm sure for you as a man when you've heard the details of what he went through. Hugh physically feel it in your body and like you said yes. The police have said. They have repeatedly dawn to their house for complaints. There was a previous cross complaint between the two. The police say they've been there at least a half a dozen times. And so yeah. There's this history alleged history of abuse. But she has shown pictures to the media of prior instances of bruising. Now just so we can get a little more about what she claims was her justification as a battered woman for this crime. Let's take another little. Listen he told me you told me not to cry. And he's Latin my face so we have at the trial. We have witnesses in the forms of experts. Friends neighbors people who all corroborated her side of the story that there was this prior history of abuse. I think what's also an interesting factor and all this in at least what's going on. Her mind is that she also had an abortion. You remember this. Oh yeah yeah and I mean. She was raised Catholic. And this is something that you don't do. You don't get divorced you. You don't have an abortion What's interesting as I as I listened to her voice and and it it seems credible to a certain extent what happened in that trial of John. Bobbitt he was found not guilty of the assault so the jury during his trial now. This is her testimony during her own trial. But she's saying the same things during his trial and that jury did not believe her beyond a reasonable doubt. Take that is. It's it's difficult to call it and you know we're looking at this. You know from where we are twenty five years later twenty five years later but you know in a courtroom has a former prosecutor. You know how difficult it is to prove cases beyond a reasonable doubt. And you've got to rely upon your victims. They've got to be beyond reproach and I think that the problem here is that there are credibility issues for both him and her in this whole saga because of their youth immaturity. The problems that they've had and she comes to the table with a little bit of a history herself right. Oh yes she does want to tell us about well. I mean she had gotten in trouble for stealing from her employer dollars. Then she steals some dresses from Nordstrom's right. So you've got those issues out there and then you're wondering somewhat about some of the other statements. She made That aren't one hundred percent consistent with all of this but you listen to the voice. Now you listen to it in the puzzle that we're in and we're like wow. This woman sounds like she was getting raped by this man yet. A jury said No. Well listen to this statement so she told a police lieutenant hours just hours after this incident quote unquote. He always have orgasm and he doesn't wait for me to have orgasm he selfish. I don't think it's fair. So I pulled back the sheets then and I did it which is entirely inconsistent from her defensive temporary insanity but I think it's time that we take it up to. How did this happen what happened? What was her state of mind? What was she thinking at the time? And we'll do that next so we just heard how Lorena Bobbitt claims that in essence. Her husband raped her. What happened after that drinking water night the only light it was on the refrigerator? Light in Saturday night number. Many things things that I remember three review leap told me through my Vaughn was GONNA die okay. So she tells the lieutenant one thing as if she remembers what she did. But in this snippet that we just heard that word..

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

Not Guilty

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

"Of men talking about women in that conversation confirmed by others. John Brag that he enjoyed having forcible sex. The friend recalled. He said that he liked to make girls squirm and yell and make them Bleed. Yell for help. Lorraina seem desperate for help but the one thing she wasn't willing to do was end her marriage at that point. She still believed that. Divorce would be immoral. Failing against her Catholic vate but by the summer of Nineteen Ninety one even the appearance of a marriage between John and Lorena was rapidly disintegrating according to Lorraina. John started sleeping with other women. She said he often stole money from her purse to fund his dates. John Rarely had money of his own disband. After his discharge from the Marine Corps he struggled to find and keep a job. The couple relied almost entirely on Lena's income as a manicurist but she didn't make enough to pay their bills. Their cars were repossessed and their house was foreclosed on sometime in the summer of Nineteen ninety-one in order to keep up with the bills and get her car back arena began embezzling money from the Neil Salon. She wrote false tickets for the customer. She served over charging them and kept the difference. She did this for several months when she eventually confesses to John. He was furious the agreed she should come clean to her boss. Janna Basuki Mississippi was angry but she had known Lorena for several years and she understood her desperate situation instead of firing her she dunk. Chlorine is commissions until all the money she'd stolen was repaid with financial strain and John's infidelity constant source of tension. The couple separated in October of nineteen ninety one. After two years of marriage John move back to Niagara Falls to stay with his family. Marina moved back in with Castro's the couple remained apart for nearly a year but they stayed in touch by telephone. Both seemed interested in reconciliation. Despite everything that had happened between them John was still arenas I love. She admitted I was scared to meet somebody else. A two thousand three study published in the Journal of Family. Violence found that leaving an abuser. Tends to be a process rather than a discrete event and can take several years on average. A victim leaves their abuser seven times before the separation is permanent in September of Nineteen Ninety. Two twenty four year old. John Returned Virginia. He said he and Lorena wanted to try to start over. Again and work on their marriage they moved into the Maplewood Park apartment complex in Manassas according to Lorraina the abuse resumed immediately after they were reunited. Lorena said that by the start of nineteen ninety. Three John beat her at least twice a week by May Llerena finally seemed to recognize their relationship was beyond repair around this time. John told her that his friend Robert was moving into their one bedroom apartment after the experience with Todd. Lorena was weary about having more men's Dan her home but John didn't give her a choice at this point lorraine thought about getting a divorce when she brought it up to John. He told her she could leave but reminded her that he knew where she worked. He would always be able to find her even if their marriage was over. According to Lorena John told her that divorce people usually stay friends and continue to have sex given his past behavior arena took this as a threat he would continue to rape her even if they split up as the abuse continued. Lorraina had the idea to hide a tape recorder in her purse. She thought a tape of John. Reading her might be helpful in divorce proceedings but John discovered the tape while trying to take money from her purse and he flew into a rage. The BOBBITT's downstairs neighbors later said they heard a loud argument with someone banging running. She heard Lorena screaming at John to give back her purse. Lorena said that John grabbed the tape and flushed it down the toilet then. She said John Raped her. Lorena tried to fight him off scratched his face leaving a gouge in his cheek but he overpowered her. Lorena reached a point where she didn't want to salvage things. Her life with John was a nightmare and she just wanted it to be over over the next few weeks. She moved things out of the apartment. She told neighbor she was donating clothes and furniture if they wanted to come by and take what they liked. It seemed that she was finally preparing to walk out of her marriage on Saturday. June Nineteenth Nineteen Ninety. Three arena ran into a neighbor. Diane Hall. She told Diane that she was moving out and looking for a new place to live the next day. John's friend Robert arrived to stay. With the BOBBITT's Robert noted that Lorena was moving boxes out of the apartment. He said the couple seem strained and that they were ignoring each other on Monday. June twenty first Lorraina went to the Prince William County courthouse. She filled out paperwork to obtain a protective order against her husband. She was worried about what John had said that he would track her down even if they split up at the courthouse the clerk helped her fill out the paperwork then let her know it would take some time to type up and enter the order into the computer system. Lorraina told him that she couldn't stay but that she might return on Wednesday to complete the process. She may have decided to wait because she had not yet found her own apartment and was still living with John. Lorena might have realized that if she filed the protective order that day they would have had to separate immediately before she was ready to move out the next morning. John and Robert were gone when Lorena woke up. John had gotten a job. Unloading trucks at Food Warehouse and Secured Robert. Temporary work there as well. Lorraina went to work at the Nail Salon as usual when she came home. The men were still out. John was supposed to work a second job that evening as a host at a nightclub but he was told it was a slow night and he wasn't needed he and Robert decided to go out for drinks instead Llerena. Meanwhile had a quiet night at home. She visited with her downstairs neighbor. Ella Jones and talked about her marriage. Miss Jones had overheard several incidents of violence and she was worried about Lorena when the arena opened up about the abuse. Miss Jones told her that she could come spend the night at her place but she was an elderly woman with several health. Problems and marina did not want to make more trouble for her. She thinks Miss Jones for the offer. Then she went back to her apartment and went to bed after drinking several beers. John and Robert left the bar around one thirty. A M. They had a meal at a Denny's restaurant then returned to the Maplewood Park apartment around three. Am in the early hours of Wednesday. June twenty third. Lorena said that she woke up to find her husband on top of her. He had ripped off the shorts and underwear. She was wearing and forced himself onto her. She said she tried to cry out but he shoved his tongue so far down her throat. She thought she was going to vomit. She kept shaking her head no but he ignored her and rape sure afterward. He pushed her away. Lorraina said she cried and asked him why he did this tour. He told her to leave them alone and let him sleep. Llerena pulled on her clothes and got out of bed. Her head royal as unwanted images flashed through her brain. She couldn't stop the barrage of memories the first time John hit her kicked her choked her and all the time after hundreds of instances seared into her mind she tried to calm herself down to stop her body from shaking to stop the pictures from flitting through her brain but it was impossible. She was so tired and angry. She had reached her limit. She was desperate to escape to be rid of John but it seemed impossible. The whole he had on her felt like a heavy cloak on her shoulders. She couldn't simply shrug it off. It suffocated her. She felt terrified that she would never be free. Llerena went into the kitchen. She thought a glass of water might help settle her nerves as she opened the refrigerator. The kitchen filled with light. Lorena turned towards the counter to grab a glass instead. The first thing she saw was a knife she reached out and wrapped her fingers around the handle. It felt smooth and cool in her hand when she returned to the bedroom. She took the knife with her. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We will be back Wednesday with the next episode on John and Lorena Bobbitt. We'll discuss Halloween. A- ended her marriage and the trials and media storm. That came after you can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as olive podcasts. Other shows on spotify or your favorite podcast directory. Several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show the best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram. At podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. When true love meets true crime crimes of passion was created by Max? Cutler is a production of color media and is part of the podcast network it is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler with sound design vicary Murphy. Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul skinned additional production assistance by Maggie Admire and currently madden. This episode of Crimes Of Passion is written by Christina. 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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

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09:22 min | 6 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

"Lawyers argued that she should be found not guilty by reason of temporary insanity under Virginia Law. Her defense attorneys had to shell that Llerena acted on your resistible impulse. A rare and difficult to argue defense w Lawrence Fitch a professor of psychiatry and Criminal Law at the University of Virginia Law. School said that irresistible. Impulse is very hard to prove because it's difficult to show that someone was unable to exercise. Control the question is whether she had the capacity to control her behavior but chose not to the law in Virginia requires one to show that practically nothing would have deterred the behavior. The defense also had to prove that the irresistible impulse was caused by some mental disorder. In Lorena case they intended to put forth evidence. That suggested that Lorena possibly suffered from several mental health problems including battered women syndrome. Battered Women's syndrome is a concept developed by PSYCHOTHERAPISTS Lenore Walker and describes a set of symptoms experienced by women who endured long term Domestic Abuse Walker. Called it a some type of post traumatic stress disorder since the late nineteen seventies. Lawyers have used the diagnosis in the defense of women who kill their abusive spouses. Marinas Lawyers. Hope they could also use it to help show. That LLERENA wasn't responsible for her actions when she maimed John on January Tenth Nineteen Ninety four twenty five year old arenas trial began. No cameras were allowed in the courtroom at John's case but the media had free rein to broadcasts Laurynas News outlets prepared for wall to wall coverage reporters came from around the country as well as Europe and South America. One manassas residents said the vultures have really descended on us. It looks like Super Bowl. Sunday but the media was only responding to the public's fervent demand a Newsweek poll showed that sixty percent of the country followed the case a Washington. Post article noted that when CNN aired an announcement from President Bill Clinton regarding agreement to destroy nuclear warheads hundreds of viewers called to complain that the announcement preempted coverage of Lorena bobbitt trial the Los Angeles Times quoted Jalen Ross a specialist in anxiety disorders to explain the public's obsession with the keys she said literature is filled with references to castration. It's man's worst. Fear what people find so frightening and at the same time fascinating about this case is at somebody actually did it. Despite the disruptive atmosphere surrounding the courthouse the trial had to proceed. When John Tried for sexual assault Lorena was not permitted to discuss the prior abuse. She suffered during her marriage but at her own trial this history became a central focus early in the trial marinas defense lawyers conned John to testify as an adverse witness or a witness whose interests are contrary to the party calling him. John denied that he abuse Llerena but admitted that he sometimes pushed her restraint her insulted and swore at her and ridiculed her with comments about her body and appearance. He told the jury it was sometimes necessary to get physical with Lorraina to prevent her from hurting him his disparaging comments. He said were jokes to contradict John's denial of abuse. The defense called more than four dozen witnesses including Lorena herself to testify about John's pattern of behavior. They described how he beat punched pushed kicked and choked her. It wasn't just the defense witnesses that spoke of the abuse. Even the doctors at testified for the prosecution believe Llerena had been beaten and raped by John. What experts disagreed on was whether or not Lorraina was temporarily insane when she cut her husband the prosecution psychiatrists concluded she was well aware of what was going on. He classified marinas behavior as deliberate saying once she stood at the foot of the bed thinking about all these bad things or husband had done before. At that moment she had a choice to make. She chose to amputate the penis. But the defenses psychiatrists Susan J feast. The Medical Director of the Psychiatric Institute of Washington saw the event differently. She said Lorraina suffered from depression. Post traumatic stress disorder and panic disorder. Dr Fister believed that four Lorraina the rape the time she spent in the kitchen and her return to the bedroom where all one continuous psychological event. During this time Lorena was overwhelmed with emotion. Dr Feast or suggested that Lorena had a break with reality and her mental state became psychotic for a brief period. She did not have any control over her actions soon. After the psychiatric testimony the defense rested. The jury deliberated for seven hours and returned with the verdict. Not guilty by reason of insanity outside the courthouse cheers erupted from Lorena supporters. There was a palpable sense of relief. That the jury had shown mercy to someone who had suffered so much one juror said that he was initially a holdout wanting to find Lorena guilty but he eventually gave in. He said he thought most of the jurors actually agreed with him but didn't WanNA punish her because of how John had treated her another juror. Said it's a sad situation for everybody. Glad it's over and hopefully the healing process will begin for her. John Wayne Bobbitt was not present at the end of the day trial but his uncle bill by. Rowe said that. John expressed shock at the outcome. He said you mean she got away with it. Bairo added John was smeared. She got off but things weren't so simple for Lorena Bobbitt. She thought that a not guilty verdict meant that she would be allowed to go home but her insanity defense men that she wasn't free to be released. The law required that she be remanded to the custody of the state's Mental Health Commissioner. Her lawyer had tried to explain this. But perhaps because of the language barrier Llerena had not understood the ramifications of her plea. Lorena was required to stay at Central State Hospital in Petersburg Virginia for a forty five day evaluation period after which the doctors would present their opinions to the court on whether continued hospitalization would be necessary. Lorena couldn't comprehend it. She thought that the verdict would finally bring an end to this chapter of her life. She could be a normal person left alone with nobody scrutinizing her every word in action now she learned. It wasn't over yet as a shock. Were off Lorena. Felt angry if anybody should be locked up. It should be John not her. He was the violent one. She had lost control only once. He had lashed out dozens and dozens of times and nobody called him crazy. Lorena watched as two officers arrived to escort her away. Our lawyer said that she was going to get help but this didn't make her feel any better. All she knew was that her life would soon be in the hands of complete strangers. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We will be back Wednesday with the final episode. John and Lorena Bobbitt. We'll discuss how John and Lorena unadjusted to their new lives. After so many months in the spotlight. You can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as all parkas other shows on spotify or your favorite podcast directory. Several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show. The best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at our cast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. When true love means true crime crimes of passion was created by Max Cutler is a production of Cutler media? And his part of the podcast network it is produced by Maksim Ron Cutler with sound design by Karie Murphy Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul molitor additional production assistance by Maggie admire and Freddie Beckley. This episode of Crimes Of Passion was written by Christine Pam Hayes. I'm leaning Hobbs..

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

Not Guilty

07:31 min | 6 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

"Llerena couldn't understand how her marriage had gone so wrong. She tried to talk to John but nothing she said could make him understand when she explained how much she was hurting her. He either laughed or became angry. Lorena couldn't remember the last time she felt anything positive until now but nothing not. Even John could take away the joy she felt being pregnant she had always wanted to be a mother in fact she pictured herself eventually having three children a family just like the one she had grown up in. She had reservations about starting a family with John but for better or worse he was her husband and John was close with his own family. He always enjoyed spending time with his brothers and cousins perhaps Lorena thought he would be pleased to have a family of his own. Lorena Clung to that hope. Having a baby would certainly change everything about their lives. Perhaps it would also change John and to a different kind of man but when Lorena told John about the pregnancy he was furious. He didn't want a child and they couldn't afford one. He rated her grabbed a phone book and found a listing for a women's clinic. Lorena said John insisted she had an abortion. John denied this saying that they came to a mutual decision to end the pregnancy. Because neither of them were ready to be parents but Lorraina denied that she would ever have come to this decision on her own. It went strongly against her Catholic faith. Twenty one year old. Lorena terminated her pregnancy in mid June of nineteen ninety. She said she was distraught. Not only because she wanted to have the baby but also because John taunted her before the procedure telling her that it would be extremely painful and then she would not receive any anesthesia. Lorraine A- became severely depressed after the abortion. She didn't WanNa talk to John or be anywhere near him in response. She said he began to rape her. My John's behaviour escalating lorraina started to fear for her life. They had a particularly terrifying altercation in late. Nineteen Ninety one morning while John was backing out of the garage. Llerena approached the car. John had hidden her car keys before leaving so she followed him out to ask him where they were as Llerena stood beside the car. John Flung the driver's door open it hit Lorraina and knocked her to the ground. He then Corinne the car out of the driveway and raced away without stopping to see whether she was all right. He didn't notice that when Lorena fell down her clothes cut on the bumper. She managed to untangle herself before he sped off but John came close to dragging her behind his car. Lorraina felt like she might have been killed when she went back inside. After this incident she saw a list of emergency phone numbers taped to her refrigerator. Including the contact information for Marine Corps. Help line she decided to call and was connected to a military social worker in an interview with the social worker. John denied that he abused his wife. But when asked to fill out a questionnaire he circled categories on the report sheet indicating that he had threatened to hit or throw something at her pushed carried restrained grabbed or shoved. Her drove recklessly to scare her through her bodily and hit her or tried to hit her with something. John later said that he didn't remember filling out the form or even speaking with the social worker. He did say that he sometimes push Lorraina or restrained her because he claimed she sometimes tried to hit him when they fought. He objected to this because as he put it. It's not ladylike to strike out. Although John was questioned by the Marine Corps. Nothing came of the interview. There was no follow up. This was perhaps because John was due to be discharged from the military the following month. Lorraine said that throughout Nineteen ninety-one. John's beatings continued and became more frequent on several occasions. Twenty one year old lorraina place calls to nine one one to report the abuse but the police really knew how to help her saying they didn't have the training to advise a victim. Only once did one of her reports result in arrest in February of Nineteen ninety-one Lorraina called nine one one after John Punched her in the face and twisted her arm. When the responding officer arrived he noted that. Lorena had sustained visible injuries to her elbow lip and foot. John was arrested and charged with assault and battery. John pleaded guilty to these charges but his conviction was never recorded. The court records indicate that the case was dismissed. After six months. After John Completed the judges condition of attending counselling. It would not be the last time. Police were called to handle a violent incident between John and Lorena bobbitt coming up. We'll talk about the final years of the Bob at marriage and the night that preceded their permanent separation now back to the story in the spring of Nineteen ninety-one twenty three year old. John Wayne Bobbitt and his wife. Twenty one year old. The Raina had been married for nearly two years for the entirety of their marriage. Lorraina claim that John Physically and emotionally abused her. She was not silent about the abuse. She told customers at the Nail Salon where she worked. Who asked about her bruises. Many of these customers were horrified by what they heard but did nothing. She told neighbors one of them gave her pamphlets on domestic violence and another offered her a place to stay. The LORRAINA declined the offer. She wasn't ready to leave yet even if she was she thought it would be too easy for John to find her Lorena. John Occasionally attended church services at Bethlehem Baptist Church One Sunday. Lorraina told the pastor there that her husband was hitting her. The pasture spoke to John. Telling him to stop. He later recalled that John had no response. She told medical professionals. Dr Inman treated Lorena for a respiratory infection. She noted that Llerena seemed agitated and nervous. She was either ventilating. Dr Inman asked her whether she was experiencing stress and Lorraina responded that she was anxious because her husband meter have sets without her permission. The doctor advise Lorraina to call protective services at times. John was also open about his behavior. An acquaintance related time. They were hanging out with a group.

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Not Guilty

05:11 min | 6 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

"Crazy woman who did something unspeakable to her husband. She was trying to overcome that. She was trying to explain how John Meter feel how frightened she was how helpless she felt. How angry how all those feelings boiled inside her until she was driven to do something incomprehensible but it was hard to explain anything when the lawyers attacked her every word and branded her a liar and worse there was John His presence alone. Meet her Trimble. He was seated over at the defense table staring at her shaking his head at her even now after everything he found a way to make her feel worthless. Lorena struggled to find the right language but her limited English escaped her. It was too much pressure and she felt she was crumbling underneath it as Llerena answered questions posed by John's Attorney. She sometimes fell silent for long stretches or said that she didn't understand the Washington Post described the arenas testimony as halting and sometimes flustered. The Prosecution's co-counsel Mary Grace O'Brien said I knew from the moment. She began answering questions and correctly that she was confused and debilitating Lee nervous. In addition to our nerves Lorena was restricted from telling her entire story. Virginia law prohibited prosecutors from presenting evidence about a defendant's prior conduct. They can only discuss the crime at hand in the trial under this law. The judge ruled that Llerena could only testify about the five days leading up to the alleged rape on June twenty third. She was not allowed to speak about the years of abuse she had endured during her marriage. She couldn't bring in the numerous eye. Witnesses who backed her claims nor could she discuss the arrest records showing that John had been charged with assaulting her in the past with these limitations in place. Lorena could hardly talk about any part of her life with John. Except for the morning of the twenty third. She told the jury that when John came home after a night of drinking he pushed me and held my hands. I said no twice but John wouldn't stop. The prosecution tried to bolster laurynas testimony by attacking John's character. They brought up his infidelity presenting the jury with a written list of women. He had affairs with. Llerena said John Created the list himself and showed it to her as a way of taunting her but John denied this. He said he possibly wrote down a list of women he was interested in but he didn't sleep with them. He claimed he hadn't slept with anyone else during his marriage 'til arena. Though in fact he had an ongoing paternity suit filed against him. A twenty one year old woman from Johns Hometown of Niagara New York claimed and blood tests later showed that John was the likely father of her ten month old baby. The defense responded with the argument that even if John was a bad husband that didn't make him a rapist but regardless of how the jury view John The ultimate test was whether they believe Lorena John's attorneys tried to point out as many contradictions in her testimony as they could. Llerena had said that her underwear was torn when John Raped her. But defense attorneys brought an expert witness who testified that he believes the rip had been made by a pair of scissors. The defense also claimed that Laurynas demeanor on the morning of June. Twenty third did not fit that of a rape victim. They presented the testimony of the emergency room. Doctor who examined Lorena that day when she came in for the Rape Kit after the attack. The doctor founded unusual. That Lorena seemed very calm during the exam because he said quote rape victims normally are hysterical. It's not clear whether the prosecution presented evidence to counter the emergency doctors assertion that rape victims are usually hysterical but victims advocates throughout. The country have repeatedly emphasized that there is no normal reaction to sexual assaults Deborah Smith a senior knowledge and information services analysts for the National Center for State Courts published an instructive article on the issue. She wrote it is important that judges at his law enforcement victim advocates and other professionals understand the neurobiology of traumatic events such as sexual assault so that they can put the behavior of the victims and proper context on the subject of the victim appearing relaxed. She wrote interviewers may be surprised by the lack of affect expressed by some victims of assault. This is caused by the brain releasing. Opiates during the traumatic event. Which leads to a numbing effect.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

Not Guilty

10:06 min | 6 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

"In Nineteen Eighty seven twenty year old. John joined the Marine Corps Johnson that his military career blunted his ability to feel empathy. Saying because I'm a combat marine. I'm trained not to feel emotions. It's really hard for me to understand person who has a lot of feelings. He later claimed that his marital problems with the arena were partly caused by his lack of sensitivity. But this didn't seem to be a problem at the start of their relationship. Llerena was just happy to have his attention after about ten months of dating twenty two year old John and twenty year old. Lorena were married. A justice of the peace performed the legal ceremony on June eighteenth. Nineteen eighty-nine the couple settled into a small studio apartment and Manassas Virginia out of the Castro's home and no longer burdened by chaperones and restrictions. John and Lorena could finally build an intimate relationship together as husband and wife. They seem happy together. But that was quick to change. We'll talk about John and Lorena disastrous marriage coming up now back to the story in nineteen eighty eight twenty one year old Marine Corps Lance Corporal. John Wayne Bobbitt Man. Nineteen year old. Lorena Cayo a young woman who had recently immigrated to the United States from Venezuela they had palpable chemistry and after less than a year of dating they decided to get married but the marriage turned sour almost immediately. They moved into a small studio apartment but they couldn't afford to furnish it for the first month of their marriage. They slept on the floor from John. Wayne Bobbitt's perspective. This was the start of their problems. Laurino wanted too much too fast. John said that Llerena was angry that he could not provide more for her to her. The American dream meant being successful and having a big house. Bull Arena. Told a different story. She was concerned by John's behavior very early in their marriage. She has said that the first cracks began to appear just a few weeks after they moved in together during the July Fourth Holiday John. Lorena took a trip up to Niagara Falls to visit John's family. According to Lorena. John didn't tell her that his family had planned special wedding reception and picnic at their local church. The newlyweds arrived. Delete missing the celebration. When they got there. Everyone was furious. It will Serena's first introduction to John's family. All she could say was. I'm sorry I didn't know after staying in Niagara for three days. John Lorena returned to Manassas. They did not go back alone. John's cousin Todd Bairo accompanied them. John told Lorena that his cousin was going to live with them for awhile. Lorraina was upset. Todd was a stranger to her. She tried to tell John's family that they lived in a tiny studio apartment without any furniture. She felt that they weren't in a position to host guests below arena. Said her husband didn't care. Todd was going to move in with them whether she liked it or not. Soon after marina found drug paraphernalia in their apartment she then discover that todd was a convicted felon and addicted to cocaine and even bigger problem was todd's influence on John while he stayed with them. The two men went out drinking nearly every night. She said about a month into their marriage. She asked to join the men on one of their nights out. According to Lorena the group tried to go to a club called Chelsea's in Washington DC. But they turned away because their attire. Didn't that the dress code they decided to go to another bar. We're taught in John during beer and took several shots. When it was time to go home they all returned to the car and John. Got Behind the wheel. Lorena recalled that John sped down. I sixty six at over ninety miles per hour. Recklessly weaving across lanes. Other drivers beeped their horns in veer to get out of their way at one point. She was so afraid they were going to crash. She grabbed the steering wheel according to Llerena. That's when John Punched her. She started to cry as John. Screamed obscenities at her todd sitting in the backseat simply nodded in approval at Johns Tirade. Lorraina reported that when they got home John dragged her to their apartment and began to kick her slap her and pull her hair a security guard. Officer Francis heard the disturbance in came to the apartment when John opened the door. His demeanor changed completely suddenly. He grew quiet and got his temper. Under control officer. Francis saw arena crying and asked her if she had anywhere else she could go. She told him she was leaving but she was too embarrassed to go to a friend's house. She didn't want anybody to know what had happened instead. She drove to the parking lot of the salon where she worked and slept in her car. John and his cousin. Todd remember that night differently. They confirm Llerena story. The three of them tried to go to a DC nightclub Chelsea's and they were turned away because John was wearing sneakers. Baton said that lorraina became enraged when the bouncer wouldn't let them in. He claimed she punched in scratch. John across the face todd settle Rina continued to attack John when they got home. He did not mention a visit from officer Francis. He said that he left them alone in their apartment and waited in a parking lot for them to calm down then. He came back inside and went to bed after the incident. Lorraina tried to talk to John to communicate that it was unacceptable to hit her. She said that John kind of apologized which gave her hope that she had gotten through to him about a month later. The couple took a weekend trip to ocean city Maryland they brought Taunton long as well as arenas friend and coworker Terry mccumber. The group was walking along on the beach when John. Thought he heard a man whistle at the women. He grew furious. Lorena said John grabbed her by the hair and pulled her to their hotel. Terry mccumber confirmed lorraine his account of the trip horrified by the way John Treated Lorena. She yelled at him to stop. John ignored her and told the women that they were going home. John went back to the hotel to pack up their things. He ordered the group into the car and they began. Dr Terry said that on the drive home. She witnessed John hit and punch Llerena while she cowered in the passenger seat Terry again screened at John to stop but he wouldn't listen. He told Terry that if she didn't shut up he'd leave her on the side of the highway. John Deny that he hit lorraina during the trip but he admitted that he became angry with her. He said that while he was driving through traffic. Llerena and Terry were sitting together in the back seat looking out the window and flirting with men they saw in the cars passing by them on the highway. She did not explain why he perceived their behavior to be flirtatious. He recalled feeling angry in ocean city but claimed that he didn't remember any other details of the trip. After they dropped Terry off return to their apartment John continued to beat Lorena until she fled the apartment. She stayed with Terry that night but she returned the next day. Jason be waiting a professor of marriage and family therapy at Brigham. Young University cited religious and family pressure as one of the most common reasons that women stay in abusive relationships in the two thousand twelve study by associate professor of psychology at Brigham Young University Nuwakot. Yamawaki research suggested that social stigma and fear of being judged often deter victims from leaving their abusive spouses at that point. Lorena and John were still newlyweds. Only married a few months. She did not want to admit her marriage was already a failure. Divorce also went against her Catholic beliefs. So she stayed with John. She was pleased when his cousin. Todd finally moved out of their apartment a few weeks later but John Marinas lives did not improve bio arenas account. John lost his temper and beat her at least once a month especially when he was drinking she felt particularly terrified when he started to choke her robbing his hands around her neck and digging his thumbs into her windpipe L- Arenas Co workers reported regularly seeing bruises on her arms neck and face around the same time John Lorena moved into a new house with more space John said the move was L- arenas idea and Lorena said it was John's both of them have since called the move a mistake since the house cost more than they could afford worries about money added to their attention then in the spring of Nineteen Ninety twenty one year old Lorena became.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

Not Guilty

10:17 min | 6 months ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on Not Guilty

"Hi I'm leany. Hops and this is crimes of passion. Apar- cast original. The legal definition of a crime of passion is violent crime that occurs in the throes of extreme emotion leaving no time to reflect on the consequences but in this show we explore how the passions of our relationships sometimes lead us to criminal activity out does a husband and wife become killer and victim or killer and co-conspirator if there's a thin line between love and hate what manipulates our relationships into deadly results at podcast. We are grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network? And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening it really does help. We also now have merchandise had depar- cast dot com slash march for more information the infamous marriage of John and Lorena Bobbitt may seem like a relic of the nineteen nineties but their volatile relationship ignited debates sexual assault individual privacy the cult of celebrity and the sensationalization of the news media more than twenty five years later these issues remain at the forefront public discourse making the Bobbitt story as timely as ever last week we covered how twenty four year old Lorena Bobbitt caught off her husband John's penis after he sexually assaulted her twenty six year old. John Wayne Bobbitt was trying for marital sexual assaults and found not guilty. Lorraina was tried for militias wounding. She was also found not guilty. By reason of insanity in our final episode on the BOBBITT's will explore how John Lorraine's lives diverged after these trials. How each responded to their newfound notoriety and how they fared when the spotlight faded when twenty five year old Lorena Bobbitt heard. The jury declare her not guilty. She was thrilled but her relief faded when she realized that she still faced an alarming future. Under Virginia Law all defendants found not guilty by reason of insanity more automatically sent to a maximum security mental hospital for mandatory forty five day evaluation period immediately after her trial in January of Nineteen ninety-four. Lorraina was transferred to Central State Hospital in Petersburg Virginia prison-like facility that housed over five hundred patients. Some had been committed there for years. Llerena new idea when she would be released that would depend on the conclusion. Her doctors reached after forty five days. If they felt she wasn't ready for released after the evaluation period she would likely be committed for an additional six month term. If she still wasn't ready after that her term could be extended indefinitely despite the fact that Lorraina was institutionalized. Many members of the public felt that she had gotten off lightly. Her case sparked debates about the use of an insanity plea in criminal trials before. I continue with Lorraina psychology. Please note I am not a licensed psychologist or a psychiatrist but I have done a lot of research for the show though. The insanity defense is controversial. It is used in less than one percent of criminal cases. Juries are often sceptical of such claims. An American Psychiatric Association study revealed that in those cases where the insanity defense is invoked. It is successful just twenty five percent of the time. Lorena Bobbitt case represented one of those rare instances where the jury agreed with the plea celebrity defense attorney Alan Dershowitz Camarena's insanity defense a cop-out and an excuse to deny responsibility and justify revenge. He dismissed the idea that John's abusive behavior could have driven. Lorraina to snap. He evidently did not give credence to psychological studies. Showing how years of abuse King Condition. Women to stay with their abusers. Instead Dershowitz claimed she could have left Georgetown Law. Professor Paul Rothstein Echo Dershowitz his sentiments musing that too much compassion by a jury could appear to condone criminal behavior while legal experts and media personalities attacked marinas character. She struggled under the weight of constant scrutiny. Many people thought that the public would quickly lose interest in the BOBBITT's after the end of their trials. One Washington Post columnist wrote. It's hard to believe the public wants to hear an awful lot more about the case. Unfortunately this was not true. At least not at first the media did not withdraw from the story even as Lorraina underwent treatment at the State Mental Health Facility. Hospital staff leader talked about helicopters flying over the hospital grounds during recreation time. Trying to gather footage of lorraina outside media personality sent notes and flowers to the facility hoping she would agree to an interview. Lorraina ignored these requests and tried to focus on her therapy lorraine recall that she was frightened during her time at the hospital. She said I was fighting all kinds of bad memories. I felt that I was hunted by my husband art of her treatment involved talking through these traumatic memories slowly. She became less fearful. She said the more I talked. I wanted to talk. Even more and more Llerena spent most of her marriage to John. Feeling isolated and degraded but discussing. Her trauma helped her to process what happened. According to the research of Dr Curious about from the University of Sega and Hungary talk therapy not only eases symptoms of ptsd but it can alter the physical biology of people suffering from PTSD symptoms. Doctors abode study measured activity in the hippocampus an area of the brain associated with learning and emotions. The hippocampus helps regulate the body stress and relaxation responses and is also connected to a person self esteem optimism and happiness. Some studies have found that people with severe chronic cases of PTSD have a smaller hippocampus than average but doctors abodes. Research showed that people who participated in twelve weeks of talk therapy experience structural changes in the brain that increase the size of the hippocampus. A larger hippocampus correlates with better self esteem and physical well-being. Lorena said that talking about the abuse made her realize that as bad as her marriage was she had survived. It having already lived through a nightmare. She felt more confident to face the obstacles ahead of her over the next few weeks. Lorraina state-appointed doctors reported that she was responding positively to her therapy on February. Twenty fifth in one thousand nine hundred eighty four five weeks after the end of Laurynas trial. Her psychiatrist sent a recommendation to the judge that she be released from the hospital. He felt that she would benefit from outpatient. Care three days later. Llerena attended a hearing at the Prince William Circuit Court. She was anxious to see whether the judge would agree with doctors. Determination Lorraina could hardly breathe as she sat through her hearing. It wasn't long just twenty five minutes but she had been counting down every single day of her. Stay in the hospital and time seemed to pass excruciatingly slowly. All she wanted was for her life to be her own again she could handle the jokes and the people calling her crazy if only she had her freedom part of her couldn't help but fear. What would happen when she was freed? She wondered if she would ever have the thing. She dreamed up a loving husband children or a place that felt like a real home but she tried to put those thoughts out of her mind. Arena was sure that her life ahead would be full of uncertainties and struggles her challenge for the moment was just to get through the hearing the Circuit Court Judge Determined that. Lorena did not pose a threat to herself or the public and granted her release as a condition of her release. She had to continue treatment with a private therapist and provide the court regular updates. She was also required to stay in Virginia. She was not permitted to travel even to Venezuela to visit family members without the court's Permission. Lorraina didn't seem phased by these restrictions. She was just relieved to be out of the hospital. She gave a brief press conference outside the courthouse thanking everyone who sent her letters of support and words of encouragement. She told journalists that she looked forward to continuing the healing process. Kerr behavior showed how much he had changed. Since starting therapy Washington Post reporters noted that she displayed an upbeat attitude. They wrote that. Lorena gave no hint of the mousy withdrawn demeanor. She exhibited in January afterward. She went to stay with family friends. The CASTROS who had taken her in when she first emigrated to the US from Venezuela after an eight month ordeal twenty five year old Lorraina Bobbitt oath that she could finally settle into a more ordinary life.

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Pakistan Says It's Holding Indian Pilot After Jet Shot Down In Cross-Border Airstrike

NPR's World Story of the Day

04:26 min | 1 year ago

Pakistan Says It's Holding Indian Pilot After Jet Shot Down In Cross-Border Airstrike

"Support for NPR and the following message come from Amazon prime video with Llerena the new docu series that shares Lorena Bobbitt side of the story and investigates the headlines and press coverage twenty five years later lorraina now streaming on Amazon prime video two nuclear armed neighbors, India and Pakistan moved closer to war today. Both claim to have shot down the others fighter jets. India says one of its airforce pilots is missing and Pakistan says it captured him alive NPR's, Laura Fraser is in northern India and joins us now. Hi lorne. Hi, ari. Explain what happened today. So Pakistan says it conducted airstrikes along the India border. It also says it shot down two Indian aircraft that entered its airspace. It says it captured one of the pilots the spokesman for Pakistan's military, even tweeted out a photo of this pilot. India gives us slightly different set of events it accuses Pakistani planes entering its airspace. But it does confirm that one of its jets was shot down. And that a pilot is missing and video has emerged of a man that we think maybe that pilot. And here's what it sounds like. Myself seven by what like. My religious you can hear a commotion there. Somebody's phone is ringing in the background. The man is blindfolded. His face is bloody he identifies himself as a wing commander in the Indian air force. He calls his captors, sir. He's very polite. He asks if he is in the custody of the Pakistani army now, there's also another video clip, we can't verify the authenticity of these. There's another clip that's airing on Pakistani media in which the man's blindfold is off, and he's sipping tea and says he's been treated very well. Meanwhile, India has called these videos, vulgar and suggest they may even violate the Geneva. Convention lauren. This is a pretty scary esscalation along a border that has been tense for years. Why is the suddenly happening right now? In an address to his nation. Pakistan's prime minister, Imran Khan, explained it. He says pocket STAN is retaliating for Indian airstrikes yesterday. No. India says it launched airstrikes and killed a very large number of terrorists at a training camp inside Pakistan yesterday the training camp. It says was run by a banned militant group, and here's what Imran Khan said today. Download and MC Dipa, but there to get all their he's speaking in or do and he says the sole purpose of Pakistan's actions. Today was to convey this message, essentially, if you come into our country, we're going to do the same. So he says he's retaliating for Indian actions. But he did also offer talks with India. Now, the problem is India also says it's retaliating against puck istani actions. And it really depends on how far back you want to go two weeks ago. There was a suicide car bomb in Kashmir that's a disputed territory that split between the two countries that bombing killed forty Indian troops a Pakistan based militant group claimed responsibility. Okay. So this cycle seems to be escalating, but some version of this has been going on for the better part of seven decades. Right. So how do they avoid this blowing up into all out war? That's a really good question. The conflict does go all the way back to independence from Britain in nineteen forty seven in at partition podcastone. Was carved out of the Muslim majority areas of India. But the one exception was Kashmir. And that's this disputed Himalayan territory that's currently split between the two countries it's a Muslim majority area, but back in nineteen forty seven the local ruler at the time was a Hindu who joined India, and so the two countries India and Pakistan have basically been fighting over Kashmir ever since they fought three wars. We hope this is not leading into a fourth. That's NPR's, Laura. Fraser in northern India. Thank you, Lauren. Welcome. Ari? Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Comcast business having the nation's largest gig speed network was just the start. Now, they're providing gig fueled apps and solutions that exceed expectations and help businesses perform Comcast business beyond fast.

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Moving past the jokes: Lorena Bobbitt hopes documentary will shed light on domestic violence

The Frame

06:11 min | 1 year ago

Moving past the jokes: Lorena Bobbitt hopes documentary will shed light on domestic violence

"Horn. Thanks for joining us, a word of warning to listeners with young children in the audience and this segment where we talk about the documentary series lorraina and our conversation includes discussions of violent adult material a little more than twenty five years ago. Lorena Bobbitt was accused of malicious wounding the conquer around the world comes to Atlanta sensational trial is attracting quite a bit of media. Attention fifteen. Twenty satellite trucks about two hundred reporters this time court TV's bringing the proceedings to millions of homes lorraina Bob at goes on trial today on charges of malicious warnings. She's facing a twenty year sentence in prison the maximum if she is convicted Bob it had cut off her husband's penis in nineteen Ninety-three with a kitchen knife. And throwing it out the car window. The authorities found that attached penis and doctors were able to reattach it and the whole story went viral as possible in the pre internet era. There was a circus atmosphere during her trial and the reign of became the butt of many cruel jokes the Amazon documentary series lorraina produced by Jordan Peele and directed by my guest, Joshua Rowe Fe, examines, what was lost in the media's reporting. There's ample use of archival footage in this series as well as modern interviews both with the rain up and her now ex husband, John, Wayne Bobbitt, we'll start with the fact that Lorena Bobbitt was an. Immigrant from Ecuador and totally dependent on her husband when they got married lorraina came here at age eighteen in search of the American dream thought, she found it when she met this handsome charming marine, named John Wayne, John Wayne Bobbitt, and they dated for about ten months. She was virgin they had a chaperone on every date. It was this very pure, according period that was beyond old-fashioned, then the married, and according to the arena a few weeks into the marriage. They were driving home one night. He was drunk driving radically, and she was screaming and begging for him to to stop and slow down. And then he punched her in the chest. And according to lorraina this thing essentially began the next four years of beatings rape on a regular basis. And it's not just according to lorraina because what you do in your series. Is you step back Nunnelee from her marriage to John Wayne Bobbitt, but other women who encountered John Wayne Bobbitt over the years and many of them, including a couple of his former wives. Tell almost idea. Stories. That's very true. When we were making this. We just we kept finding more victims. And in episode four one of those victims who's never spoken publicly will speak until a story that is harrowing his anything you'll ever hear. It was really terrifying to find that all the stories that we've found all the people that we spoke to they essentially had experienced the same specific details that Lorena had in terms of the the abuse. Whether it was the way the hands were held the way they would be sexually assaulted and so on and so forth the threats he would make if they said anything or tried to do anything. Absolutely. You know, letting them know that they can never escape him. This is a person who according to multiple courts of law is a serial abuser. A lot of people know what happened between Lorena Bobbitt, and John Wayne Bobbitt, and that is that she cut off his penis, and it was surgically reattached, but what your jockey series is about is something different. So when you start work on this documentary, what were your assumptions, how do they mirror? What maybe the public's assumptions were. And how did you decide that? There was a much bigger story that you wanted to tell and how that story start to fall into place. I mean. And I guess everybody remembers the cutoff penis, they don't remember the fact that she was horrifically abused. So that that was sort of ground zero for us. But as we got deeper into making it and all of a sudden all these pieces were so obviously in place, and those pieces would essentially set her up for disaster, Anita hill, William Kennedy Smith rape trial, the Tailhook scandal, these massive landmark moments in, you know, very recent American history where women were violated, and they either weren't believed or they were vilified or they even went through some sort of judicial process and came up short that was in the years leading up till arenas story hitting. And so when nineteen Ninety-three came around she was up against something that was that was insurmountable. Her husband actually knows that. That he has multiple cards to play against her and one of them is the threat of deportation which he holds against her. Let's hear what she has to say about her own life and coming to the United States because this guy here this abusive has been was shattering my American dream hour. Not let. I wouldn't let that happen. So just try to fight it. So when this incident happens Lorena Bobbitt quickly, I think realizes that. She is in way over her head. What does she up against in terms of the institutions in terms of the way that people in law enforcement are talking about our case, you know, econo- comes down to just the way domestic violence was dealt with in the late eighties early nineties, and we start to go into that. Especially in episode four where one of the cops who was part of the search for the penis that night. He tells us viewer essentially what it was like for a police officer to show up to a domestic violence nine one one call and there was no real protocol in place. Tell someone to go for a walk walk. The husband around the block, let them cool off. Right. And then the cops would leave. And then whoever was the victim in this case is locked right back in that house with the person who's been abusing them. And so for lorraina, no matter where she looked there really was no help. I think one of the things that is

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Shock as Eighth Grade wins best original screenplay at the WGA Awards

The Frame

01:42 min | 1 year ago

Shock as Eighth Grade wins best original screenplay at the WGA Awards

"This past weekend, the writers guild of America announced its winners for the best screenplays of the last year and WGN voters ordered best original screenplay to a movie that wasn't even nominated for an Oscar Bo Burnham's eighth grade. Claudia Puig is the president of the L A. A film critics association and she joined me in studio today to discuss the WG, prizes and other trophies handed up by Hollywood's big guilds, we started by talking about eighth grade. It's such a terrific script. And it was such an oversight that it wasn't. I dominated that. And many of us have been upset about it. So it was really great to see this get the love it deserves. And I it doesn't surprise me that it's the writers because the writers a are used to being overlooked. So no. So of course, they you know, they were trying to correct that wrong. And I also think there's, you know, comedies of always kind of gotten short shrift, and it's not really a comedy per se, but it has comic elements and then films that are about about tweens and teens are kind of overlooked. I mean, I was thinking about like the movie to hate you give which was at least as good as bohemian rhapsody or green book or some of the others do get nominee for best pitcher completely overlooked because it has the Waie taint. And I think that in this case, right? You know, you hear the title eighth grade. And you just assume that maybe she was improvising. You don't realize how tightly scripted it was by Bo Burnham talk with Bo Burnham about his lead. Actress Elsie Fisher about a year ago when the film premiered at the Sundance film festival. So there was a long rehearsal process, which was mostly for the script mostly just to make sure that it sounded right? And if things didn't sound, right. It was always the scripts fault. What I was trying to capture what she was in many ways. So to have the real thing there. It's just you know, just completely subjugate myself to it.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The View

The View

03:35 min | 1 year ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on The View

"Anybody who's anybody who wants to make it to the next level in politics to come on this show because this is the place to be her Republican wanna make news come on the show. That's your view on ABC. Mater, Lorena Bobbitt is alive and looking back on taking matters into our own hands. In one of the most infamous domestic assault cases ever. You gotta talk about common la-, Harris. She's a democratic presidential candidate comma Harris sat down with the breakfast club radio show yesterday. And she calms surprise some people by making this admission watch. There are a lot of reasons why we need to legal smokes. I have. Diane HALE, I dated I didn't. It was a long time ago. But if it was legalized all too. Medicinal would you? Do it. Listen, I think that it gives a lot of people joy. And we. She sounds like. Geez, high right there. Always get the giggles. So is that gonna put some voters off will they appreciate the honesty, and it might be noted that when she was a prosecutor, you might know this. She was not for this. Right. Yeah. I mean, you when you're prosecutor you're enforcing the laws on the books, and I think it was in two thousand ten she, you know, she voiced support for medical marijuana legalization five years later, but she prosecuted these kinds of cases as die. But I think her evolution on the views sort of mirror. What's going on in our country because I think we have over thirty states, right? That have thirty-three states have legalized medical marijuana and ten states plus Washington DC up now legalize marijuana for recreational use for dolts over twenty one. I mean, I'm you know, someone that still feels I'm not I'm certainly on board with medical marijuana. I'm not so sure about Asia marijuana. But there's just been a real change. I'm pretty live along the feel. I actually think we should legalize. Marijuana. A lot of people feel I think we should across the country. I I've always struggled with the fact that you can go and you can drink as much alcohol as you wanna get completely obliterated. But then you get caught with marijuana happens. And then people would get along a right know, but a lot of people say, it's you know, it's it's a gateway to two other drugs. I I don't know that I feel that way. My my sense is we're going to see down the road like gay marriage. I already see the writing on the wall. We're going to get there at some point. We just a matter of time, and you know, how long it's gonna take to get there. But I I'm in favor of it doesn't bother. There's just so much drinking of children under the age of twenty one and drinking and driving. I just wonder how how quickly the law can catch up with people driving. And driving. Yeah. Driving stone and p and kids using marijuana under the age of twenty one. How are we going to deal with that? I heard what I wanna turned of legalizing it to for a lot of different reasons. I I think people I do think it brings joy to people. I think the medicinal benefits, especially when it comes to brain cancer killer. I don't understand why it's still stigmatized especially in a medical way when we can help people children with epilepsy. There's studies that is really helped bluffs. He's so I would love to stigmatize it the political aspects of karma communists, because we interview is. She's cutting a weird lie. She said she smoked listening to to pock and snoop Dogg. She graduated from Howard University in nineteen eighty six and finish law school nine hundred eighty.

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Gordon Ramsay Touches Sofia Vergara, Makes Inappropriate Comments In Resurfaced Clip

Colleen and Bradley

00:27 sec | 1 year ago

Gordon Ramsay Touches Sofia Vergara, Makes Inappropriate Comments In Resurfaced Clip

"Controversy? Juicy. Somebody says something horrible or did something horrible. Browse. But. Right. All right, Bert box attracted almost twenty six million viewers in the US or its first seven days on Netflix. According to the Nielsen SVOD content ratings using said that of Netflix originals that it has analyzed bird boxes. Second only to stranger things season to falling short by less than a million viewers. So that's ton ton of viewers for bird box. We'll make it easy for you to wash it. You just click there and you sit in your pyjamas. And there you go entertainment. They're not advertising it at all. I mean, what if Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire start in Burbach? So that would be a movie. Mitzi cater in bird box who's mitigate or. All right. It was a serious question. I'm sorry. All right. Lorena Bobbitt is getting a true crime documentary series. That will be produced by Jordan Peele and air on Amazon prime for those of you that you not remember Lorena Bobbitt made headlines in one thousand nine hundred eighty one she cut off her her husband's when he was sleeping. We're not really sure what the whole me is suppose, it's probably going to be about the alleged incident. The trial aesthetic length one out of a window. We need answers. That's we need a deep dive on that as long as we don't go into what John Wayne Bobbitt was doing after the trial. Then I'm okay. Oh my God. I forgot he did. He's a filmmaker. Now, isn't he? Well, either way he's making something. All right. Doesn't. Yeah. That is a

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‘Lorena’ Trailer: Amazon Series Reexamines the Stories Behind the Lorena Bobbitt Headlines

Colleen and Bradley

00:57 sec | 1 year ago

‘Lorena’ Trailer: Amazon Series Reexamines the Stories Behind the Lorena Bobbitt Headlines

"The nineties. Yeah. We've revisited many of these stories. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I'm open to it. It'll be interesting to see how many people are hearing are watching that. And they're like, oh this happened. Well, your generation. Fisher and Joey buttafuoco. All right one last item. Like, we mentioned earlier Margot Robbie is officially signed on to produce and star in a live action Barbie movie, she said that plane Barbie promotes confidence curiosity and communication through child's journey of self discovery. Would to Twaddell. You just did. DD L E. That's totally fine. Now, also what you just mentioned Lindsay is that Margot Robbie is producing the project. So of course, she's going to be saying something like also what were the three words with the alliteration their confidence. We have

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1

MyTalk 107.1

02:13 min | 2 years ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1

"Local wherever you go i want you to tell us who won all seventy one is ktm fm hd one coon rapids saint paul minneapolis give me the update this is a mytalk dirt alert update a quick look at what's happening in entertainment dirt dirt on mytalk did you want to hopper pen the twenty four year old son of robin wright and sean penn was arrested for drug possession in nebraska this week hopper and his girlfriend whom von whitcombe we're pulled over for failing to signal when a police officer detected drug activity after searching the vehicle police allegedly found fourteen grams of marijuana four amphetamine pills and three grams of hallucinogenic mushrooms the couple were books at the hamilton county jail man if you're riding dirty play by the rules wow what a lesson kids ryan if you're right thirty that's good advice drugs s we should be saying it's right now with a mentioned of drugs guess who wants eggs this guy this is your brain on drugs moving on nice nights reference jordan peele is creating a lorena bobbitt series for amazon before part docu series title lorena will uncover the truth behind the story of john wayne lorena bobbitt the mary couple made headlines after cutoff john wayne's member after an alleged rape she suffered at the hands of her husband people jordan peele says that lorena has platform to tell her truth as well as engage in a critical conversation about gender dynamics abuse demand for justice story man around for that story i was i was a kid and all i heard was somebody cut some guys she threw it out the window otherwise i know it'll stink up the joint i don't know you have to put it on ice and shrinking i didn't know much about this story so i.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1

MyTalk 107.1

02:14 min | 2 years ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1

"Of the pertinent entertainment information and one little segment elizabeth is off don mclean has it today hey don judge judy and cbs just want an enormous victory against that l a talent agency that sued the network claiming that it conspired with judge judy to basically screw them out of prophets so they tried to sue judge judy and cbs saying we're responsible we came up with this idea and then you went behind our backs and paid her forty seven million since the show costs so much they didn't get they didn't get the profits of the show and they wanted more of the prophets and they also said that they were responsible for her career well the judge said no judge judy is a big deal and she's worth that much and it has absolutely nothing to do with you so they lost their face it's ridiculous this should have been thrown out the concept of judge shows has been around for years and she's a personality the shows the success because a it's simple it's a simple judge show court show and be it rides on the back of personality and you can't own that you can't create that that wasn't made in a lab a year moron yeah exactly okay jordan peele is going to tackle one of the most notorious true crimes of the nineteen nineties he is going to produce something called the raina it's a documentary series about lorena bobbitt who cut off the manhood of her husband john wayne bobbitt in one thousand nine hundred three and so this is a four part series he's gonna produce it for amazon and it's going to look beyond all the tabloid frenzy that the case you know that was a huge deal in nineteen ninetythree and also really look more into the allegations of domestic and sexual abuse that her that she claimed her husband was doing so more of her side of the story instead of just realising the act yes whiteman mood with the story for second yeah can i reveal something so i mean yeah so one of the first dirty movies that my friends that we ever rented when we were in hollywood yes.

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Lorena Bobbitt Is Getting A Docu-series Now, Because Why Not?

Jason and Alexis

02:14 min | 2 years ago

Lorena Bobbitt Is Getting A Docu-series Now, Because Why Not?

"Of the pertinent entertainment information and one little segment elizabeth is off don mclean has it today hey don judge judy and cbs just want an enormous victory against that l a talent agency that sued the network claiming that it conspired with judge judy to basically screw them out of prophets so they tried to sue judge judy and cbs saying we're responsible we came up with this idea and then you went behind our backs and paid her forty seven million since the show costs so much they didn't get they didn't get the profits of the show and they wanted more of the prophets and they also said that they were responsible for her career well the judge said no judge judy is a big deal and she's worth that much and it has absolutely nothing to do with you so they lost their face it's ridiculous this should have been thrown out the concept of judge shows has been around for years and she's a personality the shows the success because a it's simple it's a simple judge show court show and be it rides on the back of personality and you can't own that you can't create that that wasn't made in a lab a year moron yeah exactly okay jordan peele is going to tackle one of the most notorious true crimes of the nineteen nineties he is going to produce something called the raina it's a documentary series about lorena bobbitt who cut off the manhood of her husband john wayne bobbitt in one thousand nine hundred three and so this is a four part series he's gonna produce it for amazon and it's going to look beyond all the tabloid frenzy that the case you know that was a huge deal in nineteen ninetythree and also really look more into the allegations of domestic and sexual abuse that her that she claimed her husband was doing so more of her side of the story instead of just realising the act yes whiteman mood with the story for second yeah can i reveal something so i mean yeah so one of the first dirty movies that my friends that we ever rented when we were in hollywood yes.

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Jordan Peele to produce Lorena Bobbitt docuseries for Amazon

Len Berman

01:09 min | 2 years ago

Jordan Peele to produce Lorena Bobbitt docuseries for Amazon

"Be a movie about a john wayne bobbitt and lorraine remember she took the knife and wack does and it's going to be made into an amazon series by the oscar winning a writer and producer of get out jordan peele his name is really really talented talented guy and they're going to take the saga of bobbitt and her knife and john wayne bobbitt small member and turn it into an even smaller member now into an amazon series so the headlines lorena bobbitt queen of the wild frontier remember that daily news headline was kindest cut when they found lorena bobbitt guilty and she went over and pour john wayne so that's a movie i'm not interested in i say hey i want to mention an actor i really like a lot jon hamm he's terrific he's giving him interview to esquire magazine he talks about his stint in rehab and breaking up jennifer westfelt trying to make a comeback he's a good guy like him so check out that esquire interview john had on him coming up next he's a legend dee snider of twisted sister lead singer will join us when we return plus your next chance to.

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"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on WAAM Talk 1600

WAAM Talk 1600

02:26 min | 3 years ago

"lorena bobbitt" Discussed on WAAM Talk 1600

"In a position that you're crazy acts hacker girlfriend is going to have your sex robot kill you well there's a lot of there's a lot of red flags up there so just just now that when you buy a sex robot your opening yourself up to your crazy acts hacking divide as opposed to you're crazy acts pulling a lorena bobbitt on you they do that too by the way you kids uh under the age of thirty asked jeeves lorena bobbitt no this is some this is really starting to become a thing outside of the united states yeah i read a piece of particularly in japan this is it's cheaper than prostitution yes and these people start to really fall in love with these dials slash robots it's the creepiest thing i've ever seen and believe me sarah i've seen a lot of creepy things in my life i don't doubt it for a second but there is a a piece that we talked about a couple of months ago where there were these these guys in japan that were walking around in public with their dolls at posing for pictures like putting them oh what a beautiful seen here's a lake and here's my my dial and taking pictures the dow next to the lake no no no ask this say the ena hashtag fake news no way oh it's a crazy world we live that we live in a while and now you're seeing you know because there are some areas of the world where prostitution is legal short head are you can have robot booths where you're walking by and there are other samantha us it it i i mean think about the cost savings to the state like know i know in amsterdam for example the state is responsible for having all of the prostitutes tested for disease and all their like regular things like there's there are there are regulations instituted with legal prostitution so think of the cost savings you just have these like robots standing in the windows instead of actual women miss clean them off real quick you don't have to worry about getting shots are tested or anything you just wipe them down with an alcohol wiping bone next person comes in oh whoever the technician.

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