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Wall Street Breakfast January 30: Earnings Deluge And Virus Fears

Wall Street Breakfast

06:48 min | 1 year ago

Wall Street Breakfast January 30: Earnings Deluge And Virus Fears

"Welcome to ski health as Wall Street breakfast. Your daily source of Market News Analysis. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple podcasts. Gulag cast certified certified and Stitcher. Good morning today is Thursday January thirtieth. And I'm your host. Steve Brown our top stories. Today earnings deluge and and virus fears. GDP Fed stay steady and next thing to report leading. Today's news corona virus fears another two point six percent. Plunge from the Hang Seng Index have overshadowed upbeat earnings from Tesla and Microsoft as US stock index futures. Point to opening declines of point seven percent at the open meanwhile ten year treasury yield fell to its lowest level since early October slipping below one point point fifty six percent while crude features declined one point seven percent to fifty two dollars and forty one cents per barrel. More than seventy seven hundred. People have now been infected by the outbreak. With at least one hundred seventy dead. While officials announced the spread of the virus outside of China is of grave concern. The outbreak could cause China's real GDP growth Alta Shriek below four percent to six percent pace in the fourth quarter with worse impact than SARS in two thousand and three according to Nomura. Economists led by looting and other news. Economists expect fourth-quarter growth to be about the same as the third quarter at two point one percent reflecting software spending and a surprise widening the trade gap in December. The figure comes after the Fed's meeting on Wednesday provided little insight into policy. The did make it clear that it she's a more moderate consumer which should show up in a weaker consumption number for the GDP all ten members of the Central Bank's rate-setting committee voted to hold the benchmark federal funds funds rate in a range of one point five percent to one point seventy five percent. Amazon's investment one day delivery make cut into profits when the US ECOMMERCE homers giant reports earnings. This afternoon though things may turn around after customers shop at record levels during the holidays rising costs have weighed on Amazon share price of of late with the stock only up seventeen percent over the past twelve months versus really the S. and P.. Five hundred and other mega cap tech names. Investors will also we'll be focusing on cloud unit. Aws Amazon's biggest source of profit revenue for Microsoft's commercial cloud unit Zahoor soared sixty sixty two percent in q four pushing shares four percent after hours amid image battle with Amazon's your cloud unit continuing Meteoric Rise Tesla shares advanced twelve. Oh percent after hours as the AV maker blasted past earnings estimates and said it would comfortably deliver more than half a million cars. Twenty twenty things were not as rosy get facebook which fell seven percent after hours the social network giant top to bottom and top line forecasts though. Was it smallest. Ever quarterly earnings beat slowing slowing growth amid an increase expenses. L. Brand shares soared nearly thirteen percent on Wednesday on reports that CEO. Leslie Wexner was discussing plans to step. Aside from the company he has led since one thousand nine hundred sixty three deliberations were also said to include the unloading of the Victoria's secret in a full or partial sale two p. e. firm Sycamore partners. wexner eighty two years old built. Abercrombie and Fitch Limited and Victoria's secret and a national chain over his career and is the longest serving CEO of an S. and P. Five hundred company L. Brand shares soared nearly thirteen percent on Wednesday day on reports that. CEO Leslie. Wexner was discussing plans to step aside from the company. He has led since one thousand nine hundred sixty three. The deliberations are also said to include the unloading reading of Victoria's secret and a full or partial sale two P. E. Firm. Sycamore Partners wexner eighty two years old built Abercrombie and Fitch the limited. And Victoria's secret international chains over his career and has the longest serving CEO of an S. and P. Five hundred company following in the footsteps Savannahs. On which recently eat the deal for one hundred thousand electric vehicles from Ribian. UPS has placed an order for ten thousand electric vans with an option for ten thousand more more from UK. Based arrival the contract worth hundreds of millions of euros will also see. UPS take a minority stake in the startup besides joining the eighty revolution. UPS has driverless dreams. A six month test will begin with alphabets. WAYMO next month using ladders autonomous Chrysler. PACIFICA minivan answer shuttle packages from Phoenix. UPS stores to a nearby sorting center looking to break away from the tech platform that dominate digital media. News Corps has unveiled an online news. Aggregation Service called news. The idea which won't be relegated in the rankings is to help publishers claw back some of the control control and ED dollars. They've lost a Google and facebook. The site includes content for more than four hundred large and small publishers in the US worldwide from the Washington Post and Fox News News to daily cost and the Washington examiner a European Commission proposal seen by Reuters reveals upcoming plan to create a single market for data data aimed at challenging the dominance of facebook. Google Amazon currently a small number of big tech firms. Hold a large part of the world's data. This is a major your weakness for data driven businesses to emerge grow and innovate today including in Europe but huge opportunities. Lie Ahead according to the paper new rules to achieve the goal would culver cross border data use data interoperability and standards related to manufacturing climate change healthcare financial services and energy as of six twenty. Am today us. Futures and gold are all set to open in the green with crude oil slightly down on today's economic calendar. Her initial jobless claims her at eight thirty A. M. Eastern time. If you enjoyed today's podcast please be sure to rate interview. Below your feedback is deeply appreciated. That concludes today's Wall Street. Chris Thank you for listening for the Investment Analysis and News on the Web Dot Com. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple podcasts. The PODCASTS spotify stitcher. You can sign up for other podcasts. Behind the idea essay therapies let's hope. UPS Cannabis Investing podcast and and Marketplace Roundtable. Almost five times as well a great day.

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'I Wish Her Well,' Trump Says of Ghislaine Maxwell

TIME's Top Stories

01:40 min | 1 year ago

'I Wish Her Well,' Trump Says of Ghislaine Maxwell

"I wish her well. Trump says of lane maxwell who stands accused of facilitating the abuse of girls by Jeffrey Epstein. By the Associated Press in Washington. President Donald Trump on Tuesday offered sympathetic words to Glenn Maxwell the longtime companion of Jeffrey Epstein. Who stands accused of facilitating the abuse of girls by the now deceased sex offender i. just wish her well. Frankly trump said when asked about maxwell during a news conference, Maxwell, fifty eight was denied bail last week, and to remain behind bars as she awaits trial on charges. She recruited girls for the financier to sexually abuse more than two decades ago. The British socialite was a romantic partner of Epstein who killed himself in prison several weeks. Weeks after being charged with sex trafficking, an indictment alleged that maxwell groomed the victims to endure sexual abuse and was sometimes there when Epstein abused them, it also alleged she lied. During Twenty sixteen deposition in a civil case Epstein associated over the years with many high profile figures in politics and business, including trump former president, Bill Clinton Prince Andrew, Britain and the retail mogul. Leslie Wexner I've met her numerous times over the years. Especially since I lived in Palm Beach and I guess they lived in Palm Beach, trump said of maxwell. Epstein pleaded guilty in two thousand eight to state charges in Florida of procuring a person under eighteen for prostitution and felony solicitation of prostitution. He served thirteen months most of it on a work release program at a county jail.

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The Epstein Scandal with Ariel from Malice

True Consequences

1:20:27 hr | 1 year ago

The Epstein Scandal with Ariel from Malice

"My name is page and I'm the host of all the things that keep us up at night. It's a true crime podcast with IRI events mixed in. I'd love for you to join me and let me tell you all about the spine chilling hair raising events and true crime history as well as cases. That are currently developing. You can also join the podcast group on facebook all the that keep us up at night podcast and follow the instagram. At all. The things that keep us up if you like to suggestion for an upcoming show feel free to email me at all the things that keep us up at g DOT COM. Stay safe stay healthy. Be Aware of your surroundings. And don't end up being a subject among podcast. Look deeper This is true consequences. He true crime and mystery podcast stories based in New Mexico and the American desert southwest on. Today's Promo is all the things that keep us up at night. Podcast just a couple quick announcements. I'm happy to announce the chew consequences now. Part of the Oracle Network. 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You can follow me on facebook and instagram at true consequences pod and on twitter at true cons pod this episode deal with issues that may not be suitable for listeners. It deals with issues of child abuse and child sexual abuse listener. Discretion is advised. If you or someone you know is a victim of sexual assault or abuse. Please call one eight hundred six five six. Hope that's one eight hundred six five six four six seven three to be connected with a train staff member from a sexual assault service provider in your area. Justice seems like a concrete idea. One that is universal but is it really universal. Does it apply equally to everyone. The idea seems simple enough. You do bad things. You have bad consequences. That's what I used to believe. That's what I want to believe. But is justice truly just starting to think that maybe it isn't? I know. I know this is super naive of me but I want to believe in the justice system so badly I do. I want to have hope that people who do bad things will pay for it even if it is much later because if that isn't the case then what does that mean for countless families waiting for justice for their loved ones? What does that mean for my family? What about the rich and powerful? I think we can all agree that for them. Justice often watered down and pales in comparison to consequences for poor or even average people. Why do we continue to accept this as a society? Aside from the occasional head. Shake and tongue click. What can actually be done to change it. The case of uncovering covering today is a tough one. Jeffrey Epstein was a disgraced multimillionaire. Who was convicted of sex trafficking? Minors built a huge network of girls in the world that he would use for his sick sexual desires. He would then turn those same girls into recruiters for him. He prayed on the poor and the Vulnerable Brash and bold manner. Jeffrey was allowed to continue. Even after he had been caught with ample evidence and plenty of eyewitness accounts his victims and his original case whenever never given the justice they deserved. This is the perfect example of the rich and powerful leveraging their wealth to water down the Justice System. This cases be on frustrating. And you will hear my guest and I get very upset about it. today's episode is extra special. For me I am joined by my friend and fellow podcasters from Malice Aerial Cooksey areas one of the CO founders of the Oracle Network. Her show malice takes a deep look issues of true crime. And it's great. You can find malice anywhere. You get your podcasts. You should definitely give her a listen. Okay let's dive into the horrible vicious mysterious story a Jeffrey Epstein. I'm Eric Carter. Lon Dean and this is true consequences. Okay good afternoon. Good morning good evening whatever time it is wherever you are listening to true consequences today. I'm your host. Eric Carter Lon Dean and today I am joined by an extra special guest. Somebody who had the pleasure of being on her show of times and finally I was able to extend an invitation for her to come onto this show and I couldn't be more happy to have this person here today to discuss this case because I definitely did not want to do it by myself. It is a huge wine. And it's a doozy so without further ADO. I'd like to welcome area. Cooksey from malice as well as podcasts. The podcast as well as what else missing how many more EXC dock and for others in the works but it is what it it's fine. It's fine I don't have a problem. Hi Eric Thank you so high on. Thanks for being here. I am super excited to have you on my show. Finally I know it's been in the works for a couple of months now and what perfection takes time is all right. Yeah yeah well. I've been wanting this to happen. Since you I reject me remember when you first message me on twitter and we started talking and kind of going through some some conversations on how I could help you on your show. And and It's kind of evolved into this awesome thing and now I am on your podcast network. It's true the Oracle network isn't it is the best. I'm very happy to be a part of the team and So far it's been. It's been great for true. Consequences has been great for me. So thank you for the opportunity. That's so good. And that's that's really what the whole thing was was meant to do is basically just you know. We wanted to create sort of confederation of Indie podcasts. And not change them and not charge them. That's bananas to me to my now. That their networks that make their members pay dues. What why I don't understand like we. We don't want to change the content. We don't want to. We don't WanNA touch the money that people have coming in like we really just feel like by promoting and cross promoting each other In supporting every that we can that it's going to be best for everybody. There's there's room for all of US successful. I'm happy to give you my negative money that I've been getting from this podcast if you are saying. I've got a few like not quite a handful of patriotism users at this point in time and it is beginning to offset the cost of all boy Probably the pop screen on my mind. I've got a good amount of a patron patriots subscribers and I love them dearly And they're definitely helping offset some of the costs but I'm still in the red. I'm not complaining about it. Don't get me wrong. I am so happy to be able to produce the show and bring New Mexico specific content to everybody and really Hopefully start to make a difference in some of the crazy stuff. That's happening here in my state so as you know this is a true crime and mystery. Podcast focused on New Mexico as well as some areas surrounding the Mexico but mostly New Mexico and and as a result We're talking about a huge case today. This case is really global the global issue but there are there are tendrils there are branches there are routes in New Mexico that Made me feel like this was something that I I should talk about on this show. And and also just the level of atrocity. If that's the right word that has occurred as a result of this person in needs to be called out as well as people who were complicit in in helping this person aiming to be. They need be called out to so absolutely in Far. We've SEEN PRECIOUS LITTLE OF IT. So yeah all right so. I did all this like build up all this lead up into this mysterious case and without actually saying who it is so I would like to give you the honor of announcing. We're talking about today. Thank you so much I hate it. Yes we are tackling and I love that you used the word mysterious because we are talking about the mysterious Mr Epstein yes free Epstein to clear giant scumbag in most ways in every way. Yeah Yeah So I'm going to start. I'm going to go a little bit out of order with the story So bear with me but you know feel free to jump in feel free to contribute whatever you I know you're well-versed in this case And I was telling you before we started recording that I feel like I don't WanNa say unprepared. I just feel like this is such a big case that I don't think we're going to be able to get to all of it in recording so I think that both of us will have some recommendations for listeners. If they want more information down there to talk about the end of this episode but so in February nineteen ninety-three there was a corporation We'll call it a shell corporation. They started making negotiations with the state of New Mexico's behavior of land management to take over some land grant leases that were previously owned by a former governor of New Mexico and throughout this whole process. It was very mysterious. Nobody really understood who was actually acquiring these land grant leases and at the same time the same shell. Corporation was making a purchase on a significant piece of land thousands of acres. Just east of Albuquerque And just south of Santa Fe in New Mexico and so for those of my listeners. That are not from here. This area of New Mexico's called Stanley. And it's a really tiny. I wouldn't even call it a town. Maybe a village So in Albuquerque itself for those of you that listen to the show. You know if you haven't been here that Albuquerque sits in a valley to the east of us. There are some giant mountains which are part of the rockies other called the San Diego's and then just on the other side of those mountains. There are several communities. You can get to Santa Fe a couple of ways you can get to Santa Fe through I twenty five from Albuquerque or go behind the mountain and drive up to Santa Fe that way. So Stanley was kind of closer to Santa Fe than it was to albuquerque. It's about an hour drive from Albuquerque. Probably a good thirty minutes from Santa and it's a very remote part of New Mexico. It's just on the other side of the mountains. It's a little bit more flat But it wouldn't be necessarily as fly as Texas so you still have some hills some desert. It's really a beautiful area. So this company purchased thousands of acres as well as negotiated. The acquisition of these land grants and within a couple of years. A fifty thousand square foot mansion was built on this land and the people that lived in the town really didn't know what to think about it. the person who owned that mansion really didn't show up very often and when he did he typically would show up along with several bangles of young beautiful women. I'm just GONNA leave that there for now I can I? Can I make one caveat absolutely young beautiful women and children bright so from the outside perspective? I think they might have looked like you know. Maybe they were old enough to be incenting. So so. That's definitely. I understand that. This person had other proclivities for younger women. So it's it's it's likely that That they were underage but from the outsiders a notice these beautiful girls. Doing up at this mansion The mansion itself had a landing strip a private landing strip for an a private jet had a helicopter pad as well as just tons of things going on there. It's huge fifty thousand square foot in new. Mexico is not that common. We're we're pretty poor state The majority of our residents are very either poor middle class. And there's a handful of people that are wealthy and then there's a Lotta people that are wealthy that move here and by ranches we have the Ted Turner ranch. We have Julia Roberts. She lives in New Mexico. She's got a huge ranch Val kilmer there's just a ton of outside money that has come in and Epstein was no different so this was his home that was being built. he did use a Shell Corporation and I think that a lot of wealthy people will do that to keep it secret so that people don't really get wind of what's going on or what they're doing personally So I think it's a pretty standard practice for that to happen. It's just it was just interesting to me the way that the deal was approached looking at it from the outside. Yeah yeah absolutely And I think it does kind of lend to the idea of this person being very secretive and somewhat secretive. The right word secretive person. I would think so. Yeah there's sort of a It's it's hard to use a word like secretive because it seems so innocuous you know it's it's not a preferred state of things but at the same time I would say like a covert nece over. I like that. I think that's a good way to describe it because it does seem that way. You know when I buy a house I definitely don't have. Shell corporations that do that one to wonder. Yeah so let's talk a little bit about Epstein who he was where he came from and then we'll get into some of the crazy stuff that happens he was born in one thousand. Nine hundred fifty three He lived in Brooklyn New York with his family. He was raised lower to middle class. His family really didn't have a lot of money and they were living in a in a lower class neighborhood off of coney island up He was he went to public school. And there's several accounts that claim that he was very intelligent and then there's a lot of accounts that claim that he really wasn't that intelligent and I don't know what to believe I I my gut feeling and what I kind of gathered from all this research that I did was that maybe he was not as smart as he led people to believe but he was really good at convincing people that he knew more than he did. Yeah and I mean the very definition of a con man That it comes from the expression of confidence man somebody who can manipulate people into having confidence in them calm and I think that he was truly verse in that in. I think maybe more. So than like bookish intelligence I think he may have just been conning and maybe really good at understanding people and what makes them right. Yeah right so he grew up in Brooklyn he moved to Manhattan and started working after after college at the which he didn't Graduate College. He dropped out but he started teaching physics and mathematics at the school which was an extremely high. End Exclusive School for only the wealthiest and the most notable of the upper east side of Manhattan. This was what I would refer to as a status school. Basically all of the elite in in New York woodson their children to the school there were legacy children. It was the kind of place that if you were anybody who was anybody your child would go to the school and you would think that in an institution that was so highly regarded and had so much money you that they were working in from these parents who were donors etc. You would think they could do. I don't know not just a background check but maybe a degree check to make sure that there were qualified to teach or maybe a psychological interview if he's Associated Pass. I mean ideally yes. Yeah I would think a simple. Hey can you show me a degree in the subject? You're going to teach would be start. That'd be a good place to start. I'll be a start Yeah so he started teaching there in one thousand nine hundred seventy four and he only taught there for a little less than two years he let go for what. School officials have detained a poor performance. But there really was not a lot of explanation as to what that meant. At this time there were rumors going around the school about him being inappropriate with young girls. Exactly and frankly. I think that whole formats based release thing was because of the the status of the school. They didn't want to report that. There were until toward things happening. And you know the fact is is that knowing what we know about Jeffrey Epstein. He basically picked a job in which he was going to be working in a target rich environment for sure himself there on purpose exactly. That was not a mistake. He he was like yeah. I'm going to drop out of college but I'm smart enough to convince people that I'm smart enough to teach at this really prestigious school. Also it boosts him for social lap or he doesn't have to be the guy from that lower lower middle-class slash Higher Working Class family. He is now part of that upper. Echelon he's running elbows with the people that are moving and shaking the world. Time one hundred percent yes. Yeah and I'm sure that did a lot for his ego right Because now he suddenly in control of these people's kids oh for sure and in some ways it was it was almost his first official like official capacity his first grooming ground and fritter her affecting you know his his lure. I guess for sure so once he was let go. He had developed this relationship with the chief executive officer of bear stearns which is an investment firm in New York City on Wall Street Alan Greenberg and because of that relationship he was able to somehow convince Greenberg of his superior intelligence and was able to get a job at bear. Stearns right right. And that's that's another instance in which I was like. Somebody dropped the fucking ball right. This guy has been an unqualified teacher and is now an unqualified. Dang trust stock trader guy in this very again very prestigious firm yet and very regulated industry as well yes so he. He starts at a low level and quickly starts to move up based on his quote. Unquote skills herons understanding of greed. And what to do to acquire. Well right and I think just manipulating people. In general I sure a great skill in that trade. So from nineteen. Seventy six to nineteen eighty-one. He worked there until he was asked to leave because of a violation of some regulations related to stock trading. And they're really yeah. There really isn't anything that I could find. That was very clear about what that actually meant in even if there was a probably understand it so I'm just GonNa leave that there and I'm right there with you at the same time I sort of steel all these nebulous releases from employees are suspect red flags for me. Brighter fucking flags I mean. Yeah no I'm yeah. We're on the same page yet. I've been hiring manager in several capacities and several jobs that I've had and If somebody came to me looking for a job and they were like yeah I was just like go for quote. Whatever not hiring you. I don't and there's certain things that people can be let go for the are right. That's not really pertinent to what we do or but if it's something like theft embezzlement if it's something like Miss. I mean like I say mistreatment or you know whatever inappropriate conduct. Look if if if there is a charge. If there's a reason for your release that has something to do with like Lack of performance at a school. I mean look at the best level given both of those things that like these people let him go for a completely different reason than these people let him go. I'm looking at that and going. Do I want to gamble? Nope BREATH RIGHT. So he probably sense that and he started his own Consulting firm after that yeah and started to work with a bunch of clients that had a ton of money and he would start to basically hunt down people who owed these these people money and collect it on. He was able to recover a lot of Embezzled funds for clients and he seemed to be pretty good at that at the same time he started. Go ahead I was just going to say. It's not terribly surprising that he was able to ferret out people. Who did the exact same he did? You know it's like a look at and I apologize to my own my own listeners. For this all the time but just as an example Ted Bundy helping to find the Green River valley kill our. You know what I'm saying right. Of course he's GonNa know what to look for because he's the same thing he's exactly the same thing one hundred percent. Yep please carry on dear okay. So you know the rest of this thing kind of just goes on and on and on He eventually started a business relationship with billionaire. Leslie Wexner who is known for owning or being the CEO of the limited as well as Victoria secret. And all these other and back in the eighty s. Those were huge businesses. And I and they're still big businesses but I think they've changed a lot with the Online revolution in terms of retail. Wexner really trusted Epstein so much that he gave him the keys to his Manhattan apartment and an apartment is an understatement. So seven story building in the Upper East side of Manhattan which which would cost more money than God has to rent. I think it was referred to as the largest residential property in. Yes yes it is actually like that is in fact the largest residential property in Manhattan. That's insane so I know like the I'm so I'm so sorry. The the Olsen twins right they had Apartments in New York City. That were very very nice and they paid like over million dollars a month in rent their name and yeah so I mean seven stories really. Okay all right fine. No it's fine. It's fine until it's massive. It took blake almost a city block. I mean if you look at the pictures of this place it is the definition of sprawling. Yeah and and the relationship between Wexner and and Epstein really evolved and sounds like from what I can determine that I've seen really did help. Wexner get out of some tight financial situations that he So by Nineteen ninety-one wexner granted Epstein Complete Power Attorney over all of his affairs. That's insane but yes he did. I mean I guess. He trusted him. He felt like he helped him out. I I guess that Makes Sense. I I would. I would be wary of giving anybody power of attorney and I don't have anything right one hundred percent you know what's interesting about that I I feel like you know there is an interview with Jeffrey Epstein. Basically it was in. Let me see if I can remember this August of two thousand eighteen August or September twenty. Eighteen where he basically unapologetically talked about the fact that as a as a sex offender registered sex offender. People just felt comfortable telling him their innermost secrets that things want anybody to know we know and he even referred to it as like yeah. These secrets are way more innocuous than things I was involved with Involved in and it could ruin people if that came out and so he was. He was sort of a collector of secrets. And I think that'll be important down the line as we talk. He's like that. Guy From game of thrones the Eunuch. Yes exactly you know. And it's not it's not an just gonNA throw it out there. It's not just game of thrones UNIX and In general okay so eunuchs in ancient Rome were typically the most trusted people to to anyone who is in charge. And you know to further that you know you can look at people in For instance medieval all the way through You know probably eighteenth century England. The person who was in charge of the Privy Chamber which is a toilet in wipes the kings ask that person had the kings ear and also heard all the juicy stuff from the king and so they did wield a lot of power. I think it's a fair what's the word. I'm looking for comparison while that took a lot longer than it needed to. I think it did. I think it's a fair comparison here. Because you look at this this person Epstein who was basically raised in unremarkable circumstances in an unremarkable life and his ability to network and to get people to talk to him and people to trust him who had everything that he wanted served him well and led to him getting the massive amount of wealth that he ended up having a later on in life. Yeah definitely so wexner decided he wants to build this wealthy. Utopia in Ohio of beautiful homes giant massive estates in a place called New Albany which back then outside Columbus back then really wasn't anything and he put up in charge of managing this entire affair and part of that came with obscene. Basically getting a home there. I don't know that he paid for or if he did. It probably wasn't what it costs for that home He did end up having a residence in new Albany right. A lot of other stuff starts to happen. there's a kind of leave some of this here and move into some of the allegations share. Let's do it. It's it's basically important to say. I think that from from this relationship with wexner he was able to Really build his wealth and only his his monetary wealth but also a property and status. He was now able to interact with some of the elite people in the top one percent of the US and the world. Yeah Yeah for sure. Okay so we're going to fast forward quite a bit We'RE GONNA go to two thousand and five so in in two thousand five. There's a young girl who lives in West Palm Beach Florida. Her parents find some money that they didn't know where she got. It from was about two hundred dollars and they start asking questions. And she's very resistant to give any information for a while until they finally wear her down and she says well yeah. There's this old rich guy that gave me this money to give him a massage but red flags everywhere on that yes palm. Beach Island is very different from West Palm Beach Palm Beach. Island is where the wealthiest of the wealthy in Florida Live massive mansions. It's very exclusive at people that live in West Palm Beach. If they're poor they probably never been to Palm Beach Island exactly. Yup Epstein has a home there and he is actively recruiting young girls Poor young girls and this in the city. And it's just it's horrendous when I when you think about you know the toll that he he played on a lot of these people's lives so yeah so it starts with one girl and she goes. She gives a massage He had this whole routine down. And it's very consistent with every single report from everybody who interacted with him at this level. He would come in. He would have his towel around him. He'd be on the phone and he would just lay on the massage table and direct the girls to start rubbing his his legs and as he's talking you know at some point he turns over the towel falls off. He's lying there completely naked. He convinced he convinces the girl to get naked as well and then starts to sexually assault them. it's important to state that these girls that we're talking about are typically between the ages of fourteen and sixteen. Yes yeah we are. We're literally talking about girls. This is not. That's not a euphemism for you know. Gals are chicks or no. This is these are literal children and what would happen is after the ordeal was over. He would basically pat him on the back. Say Hey you did a great job. Here's two hundred dollars. Thank you so much. Oh and by the way if you WANNA make some more money how. `Bout you bring me some more girls right which I'm sorry I just so bad. It's it's an and you know what the the hard thing about it is is. You would think like these girls would just go. Yeah No of course. I'm not going to do that. I'M NOT GONNA put somebody through what I went through. The fact is wasn't a question. Was It really? I mean you're talking to girls whose parents are drug addicted a girls who are living in severe poverty who have no options. Some of them were even you know relatively living on. I would say on the streets but you know orphaned Bouncing around from foster care to orphanages and those kinds of things so the most vulnerable girls. Yeah absolutely yeah I is again it it just. It just infuriates me because even even insisting that these girls find him other victims. That's that's a form of victimization. What are they supposed to say? No now how in the world are they going to tell? This billionaire is connected with all of these people. I mean for fucks sake in this fucking New York City. I'm using inverted commas right apartment in this place. These girls would come in with their escort. The girl that recruited them and then that girl would have asked to be basically she. She would have to leave the scene and this girl has been brought. There would have to traverse this hallway. This really long hallway. It was basically filled with these giant portrait of Jeffrey Epstein. With all of these powerful people you know presidents and Slighlty he royalty he wasn't there was a picture of him with the poll. Yeah you know I mean. How much higher does it get? This is a person who is considered to be conduit of God on Earth. Like you look at that kind of power and you just go like I can. I see now. Is that even a possibility? And in most of those cases were were dealing like you said with fourteen to six journal. Girls we're not even talking about full full grown women right so yeah I mean. They're they're basically being groomed the entire way into that room with it's horrifying. I can't imagine what it must have been like for them when they realized that it was turning into something that they did not sign up for. And you know I. I don't have a lot patience for people who blame victims now so Soglo head and and miss me with that bullshit here. Because I don't I'm not interested in it These are these are girls. These are are poor girls who really could use that money and for and for him to we'll that in the power over them is disgusting to me disgusting. Now there's there's there may be other words for it but I think that's about as appropriate as against so this kind of unraveled. A whole pyramid that he had built up a whole network of girls. And there's there's evidence to back all of this up. There are a phone memo's messages that were left from some of these young girls The dates and the tires matchup with the dates and Times that they gave In their statements and they all they all described The winding staircase that went upstairs. They all described the room where this happened. They all described the same behavior right and they all described his genitalia. Yes and there it is. Let's talk about that for a minute. Let's go ahead. Eric Lemme ask you something Have you ever I mean eat? You're high school guy. I mean I'm sure that like locker rooms or like swim parties or sleepovers. Whatever the fuck you know what? I mean like his kids. You know you you see. A or right. Yeah have have you ever seen Powell's should I- poetically this been Tina's egg shaped peanuts? I can't say that I have like t top and just a little gone the end there and I can't say that I have I can't see what have all of these girls have a year. Joking tell me everything. So that was. I think that gave a lot of credibility to their story. The fact that they all described this peculiarly this. It's misshapen misshapen penis. So the police really start to investigate this case and they start they uncovered dozens and dozens of victims in this just in this one town right yeah. One hundred percent yeah. So they're like numbers. Yeah and so they go to his trash they all these Corroborating pieces of evidence and they have a solid case from all outside view. It looks like they have a solid case here right so they present it to the. Us Attorney's office there in Palm Beach. Right and things take a weird turn. I Want I want to talk about this for a while because I think it's it's a it's unheard of maybe it's not heard of but sill. I just wanted to give a little a little Just for a into for a moment. agreeing personal agreeing to do this case which. I was super happy to do. I along to an organization I'M A board. Member actually is a national organization. That combats domestic violence through the celebration of survivors on the really really big thing for me. it's called Cheuse Coverage Foundation. If you want to look it up but also I have a background working with traumatized individuals. In so that has ranged anywhere from medically fragile children. All the way up through adults and this this was a huge fucking deal to me when this happened and when this broke Until this point I had no idea who Jeffrey Epstein was like. Not Not even a little bit. I was US not on my radar rate and I think probably by design. Would you say so? I would agree with that. It okay. But apparently he's pulling a lot of strings from behind the scenes and You know from from my standpoint. It's it's just sort of like the only person in the room more powerful than the person who has the most money is the person who can't be bought Ryan this stage. We haven't found it so okay. Go ahead Eric. I'm sorry I just had to put no I think that's a good call out So a lot of this stuff that we're gonNA to talk about now. Really didn't get brought into the spotlight for a long time after it happened so. I WANNA put that out there. Yes So the police create this pretty airtight case. It turn it over to the. Us Attorney's office right and in some kind of weird twilight zone situation the US attorney's office begins cooperating with the Defense Team. In a way that has previously been unheard of to the point. Where as they're drafting the indictment they are sending it to the defense team for edits. Which I'm sorry. I have never heard of that before in are not coming at that from an uninformed standpoint first of all. I have plenty of experience working on the What would you call the litigating tire side? The litigation side of the courts in terms of things like abuse neglect family violences CETERA. So Yeah I've never never heard of prosecution team sending these things to the defence for their approval not just approval but edits. It's like what so it's not even like. Hey guys good with this. It's like. Hey what do you guys WanNa change with this exactly? Yes and I mean seriously what the fuck like I I don't have I. It's not even a question it's calm. It's it's just a straight up statement. What the Fuck I just don't get it For me I would venture to guess that there were some people in that office. That had a lot to lose Yes team had a lot on them. That's just my opinion. Now that's that's exactly. We're on the same page there. I mean I don't see any other reason. How why that would have happened unless they were bought. And that's also a possibility which is more disturbing to me. Yes he APP because they wouldn't have had any emotional or or status reason. If I end they would have been like. Oh Shit he's GonNa pay US Ashok. Yeah so from this whole interaction and cooperation. The US Attorney's office agrees to a deal of non-prosecution as well as reducing the charges from sex trafficking. Which is what the fuck they were. That was sex trafficking from sexual abuse of a minor. Which is what the fuck it was as well to one misdemeanor count of prostitution with a minor which is not a thing. No no look guys. If anyone thinks that prostitution of a minor is a thing the fact is that a child can't consent prostitution or as I prefer to call it sex work rate. The second grade people young engaged in transactional sex. These are individuals who are fucking adults right and they may be course into it and I don't. That's not good. I don't I'm not here for that. But the fact is is there are people who opt in to do those types of things for money or whatever their purposes and some of them are quite noble. So I don't I don't negate that I don't look down on it at all. But the fact is is the child can't fucking consent that is not child prostitution. It is fucking Child Abuse Child Second. You percents abuse so sex trafficking and child sexual abuse asks and and so this this whole thing is just it makes my blood boil. It makes me so mad And it gets even worse. So as part of this sweetheart plea deal that was struck between the defense and the prosecution. A few other things were added to Epstein's listed demands. One of the things that was included in this. Was that the victims would not be notified and would not be looped in on what was happening because absolutely what the fucking sock which is illegal. I cannot I cannot be nice about this. That is illegal it is unethical. And for Fuck Sake as if these girls in these children have not been enough you really are just GonNa leave them out of the stock in the loop. Yeah is it has no idea. They had no idea that their abuser was getting this insane. Deal and they. They all thought they all thought that the prosecution was on their side. Yeah and they should have been well. Yeah of course you would think right one would think this non-prosecution agreement just blows my mind. And I have copies of all these things that I'm GONNA post in the show notes so people can check them out if they wanna read all this stuff. It's it's insane. How many documents are out there? Related to this. No and look I. I'm I'm a big San of and I don't I don't mind saying this They're not on our Our label our podcast network but Real Crime Profile Will Jim. Clementi is a former. Fbi via use the Behavioral Analysis Unit. He was a former criminal profiler and you know he he basically in looking at this. He's a former New York City prosecutor. Right that was that was his job was to put people like I've seen way and when he sound about found out about this sweetheart deal he was like I have never never in the courses my time as a prosecutor or on the FBI never seen a detail a deal like this never this. This is unconscionable it is outrageous in violated a specific law which is the Crime Victims Act which states that victims have a right to be reasonably protected from the accused. Absolutely the right to reasonable accurate and timely notice of any public court proceeding or any parole proceeding involving crime or of any release or escape of the accused. They have the right to not be excluded from any such a proceeding. Which is what happened unless the court determines that the testimony by the victim of materially altered if the victim heard other testimony. That's the only reason that you would not loop in the victims right right They have the right to be reasonably reasonably heard. They weren't given that they weren't allowed to speak to Epstein right or to the court and have that I'm look. I'm so sorry Eric Fame. No that that on this podcast. Typically you try to steer away from really polarizing things including foul language and and again I guess a lot. There's there well I know but like you know what I mean I. It's just a there is there is just zero away can be nice about this. There's none I can't. I cannot be kind about this. I cannot offer compassionate. I cannot even my own podcast Malice one okay. One of my podcast. Now as I look at that I try to approach. I mean the victims of course are easy to relate to that I tried to approach the the perpetrators with a a a lens of radical empathy. In that I want to understand enfield compassion for them up until the point that they commit. These acts macos up until that point we can see a lot of ways in which they've been failed etc but yet no. I have a very very hard time with this one. I just I just can't I? Just don't I can't another part of this. Act States that the victims have a right to reason to confer a reasonable right to confer with the attorney for the government in which they were also denied that The office of the US Attorney's had no interest in discussing any of this with the victims and they signed away illegally In this non-prosecution agreement to happen so he did go to jail for this for his one count of child prostitution. That's not a thing now and when I say he went to jail. I'm going to put that in air quotes right because he was allowed to leave his cell twelve hours a day to work in his office in Palm Beach seriously was the. I can't own regard and and look there were. There were people they say. Look look there. People posted up outside the home yet. Not every entrance and exit right. We have no idea what was going on inside that home while he was you know quote unquote working now. I just yeah. It's I'm sure he continued to offend. Oh I have no doubt. I've no doubt I mean he. He had so much money that I mean who? It's it's almost who could not be bought in. Oh and I. I hate to feel that way but I mean for look. They're all kinds of reasons. I'm not I'm not going to even say that like the people who were bought out were the worst fucking people in the world. You could be somebody. Who's in financial trouble in? You're trying to take care of fucking four kids. You know what I mean and and you look at it and you're like hey he's offering me offering me whatever twenty grand to look the other way like a that's a that's a big fucking deal right in and so you have to weigh your priorities and you have to just kind of like make. East with your ethics. I get it I do. I don't agree with it and I couldn't do it. Legit I would. I would just be like nope I can't I would not person in in this is not. This is not a moral high ground kind of thing. This is just like a passion kind of thing like if somebody was threatening somebody that I loved you know in the gun or whatever I'd be the first version who just dive in front of the Goddamn bullet because I will. I will throw down on that person before they're going to touch your hair on the head of somebody. I love email in. So let's talk about his attorney for a minute his attorneys because I need a breather Alan Dershowitz might sound familiar to some of you. Yep He was the lead counsel in this whole scenario He is very famous among celebrity trials. And he's been in several high profile trials including OJ Simpson. He has a lot of experience helping rich people deal with their legal issues. He also Jim Bakker again. So you know definitely has a experience helping people wriggle out of tough situations and whether it was legal or not. I think it was not legal. He was able to convince the. Us Attorney as well as the other attorneys at burn balked in this case and there were several others To to offer this deal and honestly the victims really didn't find out until much later that the city of an happened. They were still under the impression that everything was in process and that there were still going to get their day in court which they never got no and that's that to me is one of the most frustrating egregious parts of this whole thing is that they were sitting there thinking. I'M GONNA get a day in court. I'M GONNA be able to tell this fucking asshole the impact that he's had a my life my family's life on so many others and it was it just guarded by like they didn't. They didn't even get notification to sign. It was already enacted so as you can imagine because there was no real consequences for his actions He continued to offend. I would even say that. He probably started to escalate What he was doing. There's one victim in particular. Her name is Virginia Roberts. Her last name's different now. She's she's married. I think she's living in Australia with her husband. She was sixteen Epstein recruited her and she jumped right in you know and started helping to bring girls to him. She brought tons of girls but he also used her and he would do things like he would take these girls that that he liked and he would fly them around with him and they will go all around the world. It was either going to be the ranch in New Mexico called. Zoro ranch or the Town House in Manhattan or his private island in the US Virgin Islands that he owns but she is very adamant. And I believe her that he lint these girls in such gross way to say. I'm sorry but there's just how she describes it to politicians to Famous people to the UBER wealthy and to royalty and is fucking disgusting prayed away. Yeah and everybody that she's called out and she's called people out by name everybody that she's called out Has denied all of these allegations if one of the most high profile ones is Prince Andrew of British Royal Family. A my God. That has sucking. He's shit he didn't interview. That was one of the most cringe-worthy things I think I have ever ever tried to watch in my life did you. Did you see the interview with him? Eric I didn't and I really didn't WanNa Watch it because I I don't want I don't care what he has to say. Honestly no I don't either and at the same time I was just like okay asshole. Let's see let's see what your excuse for. The Shit is. The fact is is that the the Prince Andrew Interview There's a reason why mommy dearest decided to pull his birthday party. The Muneer look when Mommy. Pulls your birthday party. That means you've done some serious shit okay. That's not it's not great okay is is just what. I'm what I'm getting at The point of the matter I think is is that you know. He first of all claimed he was never. There were news in which he was pictured. Right never mind. There's a photo of you. Hugging gets yes and but The fact that he is basically saying look this this. I don't know if that's my arm. I mean yes that looks like me that looks like me. In the fifth terror should Pity said that he one hundred percent said that not not joe. I couldn't make this shit up so yet no one hundred percent was just like well. I mean you know th yes. That's me however I I mean I don't know somebody could have all today. I don't know that that's my Hond. I don't I don't know that that's my arm In the same in the same fucking picture. You're like fine. Take the hand in the amount of it. You still have your crotch pressed against her. You're still there king piece of his. Nobody takes an awkward picture with your fucking Crotch up against someone. That's not. That's not awkward. That is catching you in a fucking nasty perverted moment like unless consensual relationship. That's just not fucking okay and I think she was sixteen at the time. That picture was taken one hundred percents. She was yes you're right. You are right I there's so much infuriating. And and he okay. So the interviewer did a wonderful job. She really did. Unfortunately she was under the strictures that she had to be respectful of the Royal Family. And so she had to continue calling him. You're wryness and prints and You know basically. She gave him so many outs. She even so many outs lake. Do you feel any regrets about your friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and his response you know what the fuck is response was what he responded. Well no not really because you gave me so many opportunities that I would not necessarily have had of a wise so you know was there was a connection with people who freely who's meets to grow and in you're just sitting there looking at him like are you kidding. This was your opportunity to say in fucking discuss it. I had zero idea and I cannot shower enough to get the filth off of me. And you know they're great opportunities as if being goddamn British royalty doesn't give you the same fucking opportunities fucking pedophile. Are you joking? He's just full. I think and firemen sorry. I'm losing my shit and it's because this is this is very close to my heart so I am so sorry to hear no. It's it's fine. It's you know it's hard to not get really angry about this as I've been researching this I've been very angry Just the injustice of it but also the fact that these rich and powerful assholes Felt like they were above the law and felt like they were able to do whatever the fuck they want to whoever they wanted with with impunity like his as secretive and as manipulative is Epstein was. He was also very brash and like he called his fucking private jet the Lolita express I mean I mean if if nothing is going to lead you to the idea that he is fucking visa shed that should do it the disgusting. Dan Can Bullshit yes so he was almost like brazen in his misdeeds. He was almost flaunting. It like I got away with this. You guys can't touch me. I'm untouchable and that of it makes me so mad. All it makes me fucking sick making fucking sick lake. How disgusting a human being. Do you have to be before you look in the mirror and go? Hey Bro maybe I should not be so God damn conscious lists like I don't. I don't know I don't know angers me on every single level and the fact is is that yeah I I have people in my show. You had people on your show like the topics topics topics honor shows that are horrible. They're just horrible. They are like there's nothing good about them if you're if you are a subject furniture crime podcast. There's nothing good about what happened to you. Rate right either way right. I mean there's just not it whatever you went through if you survived Europe fucking bad ass and if you didn't it's you you were handed the the worst fucking stick on the relay is all. I can say so you know but when when you look at these things like that's one of this case is one of the worst. I've come across. People just kept giving him a pass. He just kept getting away with it for decades and and he started long before these girls in Florida in even before new Albany And you know I would probably guess that he started when he was at the Dalton school maybe even before that but he had been doing this for decades without any kind of consequence and when he did when he did actually get some level of consequence in two thousand and eight. It was not it was it was shit and then and then part of this whole plea deal the worst part about all of this. I mean all of its terrible. But then all of these documents were sealed right and Epstein wasn't even in prison. He was in the stockade which is basically a jail. Yeah and he only he only served quote served thirteen months And then was released Opt for that after that for house arrest. But he's still was allowed to go to Manhattan in the Virgin Islands in New Mexico. And all these other things while he was on house arrest so like what what was that no. I I it's it's baffling to me too. I do not understand. I can't I cannot Begin Detroit to put that into some context that makes sense. Yeah so all of this was kept under wraps until two thousand eighteen when the Miami Herald released this scathing three part series about this plea deal and Somehow I'm not sure how this reporter did it. But she got access to everything and she laid it all out there so between two thousand eight and two thousand eighteen. In those ten years he was able to continue offending. He was able to shuttle girls from the mainland to his private island Partnered with this gross French model agent Guy was using him to find French girls and Eastern European girls and he had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of victims around the world. And I think the total count probably will never be known Because they're so many. What kind of pedophile has that amount of wealth and power to be able to do that on that level on a global trafficking level like that is just mind blowing it is and and it just it just lens? Lynn's to the idea is fucking unconscionable. This man had no conscience none and fuck everybody who helped him so. Let's talk about that for a second. Thank you very much. Yes let's do so At some point in his life he meets a woman named Glenn Maxwell. Oh my God okay. So let's talk about Gasoline Maxwell. Lean Glynn GALELA Ghislaine. Honestly who gives a fuck? So let's just keep it to you know. Let's listen I try. I try to not be misogynistic But I mean every word of it when I say this fucking bitch okay. Okay so this bitch this bitch born on Christmas morning in nineteen sixty one. She is a British social. Or maybe she was say she's also the daughter of a publishing tycoon failed and disgrace publishing tycoon. Robert Maxwell and she was for a while known as Jeffrey Epstein Girlfriend for minute her minute yeah hot And then they decided that they were actually better to not be romantically involved probably because he's a fucking pedophile. Maybe I wanNA stay by them. I think it was him. He decided they were not because she was in love with him. He was a them. Lapdog was real. She was in love with him. Yeah I've heard. I've heard accounts of her telling her friends that as much and then just as quickly as she fell in love with him she was just as quick to say. Oh we're just friends. Were just business partners. And she slowly became Kind of his right hand person in every way. Yeah and I'm. I'm pretty sure that you know his motive in meeting her had more to do with her Wealth and her family's wealth than anything else because obviously he wasn't going to be attracted to her since she was much too old for him. Yes yes so. This bitch Yet so this bitch she I just I. She's just the most despicable person you know in this story aside from Epstein in my mind just because of what of what she did. Yes so there's a story of one of the earlier victims obscene. She was an artist in New York And she had an art show. She was studying art. She was just really focused on that she. This girl came from Kentucky. She knew from a very young age that she wanted to be an artist and she knew from a very young age that she wanted to be an artist in New York right and so she moved to the city after high. School She I think lied about attending art school and beginning. Because she couldn't afford it yes and so she started to just kind of slowly find her way she started creating our and had an art show well Epstein and Glean show up at this art show right and Galina approaches this girl and says Oh yeah. Jeffrey just loves loves this painting of yours. And have you seen the painting that I have a new describe it to you and then I'm going to encourage you to look it up? Okay This painting shows a man standing in a doorway in his boxers. Looking on added girl looks like a young girl who is asleep on a couch. Ooh Kay it's very ominous so basically it's it's really eerie when you think about it in the context of Epstein and he tried to figure out why he liked this painting like it's obvious it's this man like proven on a girl on the couch. So this was her thesis show. He decided he wanted to buy it and also said that he wanted to take her under his wing and start to help her develop her art She was commissioned to do some art for some feature films. And so he's like. Hey I have a great idea. How about you come to my house in new Albany. Actually this is all from lane so glades like why you come to his house in new Albany totally. No one's going to be there. You can pay. You can do whatever you want. It's going to be wonderful. Meanwhile he's fucking grooming her sister her little sister and he assaulted her. He took this girl to New Mexico. He took her And he tried to assault Maria but she fought back. She called her. Dad told her data. Come for her and He drove all the way from Kentucky to Ohio to pick her up and it wasn't until after everything was over that she found out that her sister was attacked by him and her sister was fourteen at the time. Holy Shit. They tried to report it. Nothing happened Oh my God. So Goulaine was instrumental in getting Not ONLY WOMAN. But her sister Lincoln With Epstein. So they had a habit of doing this with find somebody who was promising and talented whether it would be an artist or musician. They hey we're just patrons we WANNA help you. We want to how we pay for your school. Like did that with a cellist. They're like we'll pay for your school We'll help you get set up so that you can meet everybody that you need to meet. C can be successful in the music scene and they try to to. You know. Seen tried to attack her she. She didn't go for it. So then D'alene convinced her that she needed to go apply at juilliard which she didn't want to do but she did anyway They convinced her to do. This is a different girl. I feel like I'm sidetracking a little bit but I just kind of want to throw these all out here This this is the one that made my blood boil. So this girl goes to juilliard Epsteins paying for it. They now tell her. The condition of her education continuing to be funded is that she needs to start recruiting girls from Juilliard for Epstein and discussing. Yeah she refuses Lane says you know we can make life really bad for you you. You don't have to do this. You can have a great light. Whatever suddenly after she refuses to do it she's dropped Epstein stopped talking to her glean up talking to her and she gets hit with multi thousand dollar bill from Juilliard School. She didn't WanNa go to sorry. She had a full ride to another music school and she could have a qualified with her skills and her income for a hundred percent tuition at juilliard as well. Yes so gelinas dislike disgusting human being who has completely sold out every sense of moral conscious that she might have had for epsteins disgusting desires and I have no respect for her at all right now. I'm right there with you. How can he do that? And I don't know what kind of life glean lived. Prior to that I. It was a life a life of privilege and it was the life of of comfort And the fact that she just went out of her way so when all of this broke in two thousand eighteen from the Miami Herald implicated as being a huge part of this operation. Shot in it makes sense how he was able to get these girls with their guard down. I mean you get approached by a sweet talking British woman who seems fancy right. You're going to be disarmed by that. A little bit share. So it's just yeah I. I wanted to talk about her because I just feel like. She's so gross and complicit is is not doesn't even begin to describe what she was she she was. She's completely culpable numb. Sir and the scenario I'm with you one hundred percent So Eric We covered a lot of this case. do you feel like we? We need to do like another episode. I think we might need to do another episode Okay I'm going to wrap it up with a couple of other other things for for this episode that we're doing or I wanNA talk about when New York so New York state decided to file charges. Because no he committed these crimes. Not only in a Palm Beach Island but also in New York also in New Mexico and other places around the world and because Because the plea agreement was sealed and because the law was violated in that plea agreement. New York New York was able to file charges against Epstein. This and this happened in. Let me just see. I believe it was right. After the bombshell of The Miami Herald and it led into twenty nineteen but EPS Epstein was arrested. He was charged. He was placed in in prison at rikers. I will leave and he. He was charged and and rightfully so finally ten. What is that like fourteen years after the fact a of the first allegations that were it's insane it is it really is. He was serving his sentence and then he He died and the official cause of death was listed as a suicide. But I don't necessarily believe that and I'm not a conspiracy theorist I'm not that guy but I think that I think that Epstein had a lot of information on a lot of very powerful people. I think you're absolutely right. Yeah I think he was a danger to those people and I think those people saw to it that he was no longer a threat to them. Absolutely it's too suspicious. Like how does the camera that on all the time suddenly not recording? How was he left While he was on suicide watch not being watched. Like none of that makes any sense to me. There are a lot of people in his address book and there are a lot of people on his fight records that I would want to protect themselves. You've got big names on there. You've got Bill Clinton you've got Prince Andrew. You've got trump donald trump. You've got So Bill Gates Yep On his flight records on the manifest you have former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. You have so many powerful people around the world who are linked to this man and it would make sense that they would not want him to be able to talk about what he knows about them. And I'm sure he knows a lot. First Shirt No. You're absolutely right so there are countless victims here. I mean huggins victims. Any of them are not known One of the things that to circle back to New Mexico and then I think we can wrap it up here but One of the one of the things that really bothered me was the fact that in New Mexico He should have had to self identify as a or register as a sex offender because of his crimes. Yes thank you absolutely but what happened was there were a couple of loopholes that he was able to take advantage of. That allowed her to not have to register. One of those loopholes is the age of consent in New Mexico. You believe have to only be sixteen in New Mexico to consent which I think is is wrong and should change number one. The other thing is if somebody moves from another state where they've been convicted and had to register as a sex offender. There's no law Mexico that requires them to register here. So you can so you can move here and basically get away with it. So that is changing. I think legislators are working on that as we speak I know that Corona viruses. Kinda slow that process down. But I know that they want to close those loopholes so that that doesn't happen again so if you want more information about this case I'm going to make a couple of recommendations here Some look at the Miami Herald expose. That's very thorough. I would incur you. Read that and and watch some videos associated with that. And there's several podcasts. That are very well done. One of them is the mysterious Mr Epstein but. I think that there's a couple of other ones that you might recommend aerial the number one that I could give you. Honestly there is a fourteen part series done on true crime profile Arabs. I just wanted to thank you for helping me get through this horrible case. I don't think I could have done this without you so I'm very grateful that you're here and and so with that with that. I'd like to say stay safe New Mexico and stay safe everybody else. Who isn't New Mexico because I have a lot of listeners elsewhere? Thanks again for listening to to consequences. Follow us on social media on instagram and facebook at true consequences pod and on twitter at true cons pod true consequences is hosted written and produced by me your host. Eric Carter Line Dean. Thanks for listening and stay safe New Mexico off

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#100 From Spook Air to the Lolita Express: The Genesis and Evolution of the Jeffrey Epstein-Bill Clinton Relationship

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#100 From Spook Air to the Lolita Express: The Genesis and Evolution of the Jeffrey Epstein-Bill Clinton Relationship

"You can't handle the truth on August tenth and for several days after speculation swirled after it was announced the Jeffrey Epstein had been found dead in his cell. His cause of death has officially been ruled suicide by Hanging Epstein the billionaire pedophile and sex trafficker with a myriad of connections to the rich and powerful in the United States and several other countries had told. Those close to him that he had feared for his life prior to his sudden suicide the Washington Post reported while his defense lawyers claim that he had planned to cooperate with federal authorities following the controversial conclusion by the New York Medical Examiner that Epstein's death was a suicide a conclusion contested by epsteins attorneys as well as by independent forensic pathologists given the apparent evidence pointing. Towards strangulation corporate media coverage of the Epstein case has slowed to a trickle safer sensationalist stories about his alleged Co conspirator, Lane Maxwell, and new salacious details of his past gone from corporate media or any hints of the larger scandal revolving around the admission that Epstein had belonged to intelligence in this four part series the Jeffrey Epstein scandal too big to fail mint press. Has, revealed the EPSTEINS activities a sexual blackmail operation involving minors and connected to intelligence agencies was one of many such operations that have taken place for decades developing from the nexus forged between the CIA organized crime and Israeli intelligence shortly after World War Two as part two of the series revealed these sexual blackmail operations proliferated during the Iran Contra affair, which involved the same dark. Between US Israeli intelligence and organized crime though this series has thus far largely focused on the ties of Republican officials to those operations and associated crimes. The final installment of the series will focus on democratic politicians namely, the Clinton family and their ties to the same network as well as Jeffrey. Epstein, the Clintons own involvement in Iran Contra revolved around the covert activities of Arkansas airport, which involved the CIA front company, Southern Air, transport, and occurred while Clinton. was. Governor just a few into the Clinton presidential administration, Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein would play a major role in southern air transports relocation to Columbus Ohio leading to concerns among top Ohio officials that both men were not only working with the CIA. But that wexner company the limited sought to use the CIA linked airline for smuggling during that same period of time Epstein had already forge close ties to important Clinton White House officials and prominent Clinton. Donors like. Lynn Forester de Rothschild and made several personal visits to the official presidential residence. Some of these ties appear related to Epstein's shady financial activities, particularly involving currency markets and offshore tax havens activities. He began to perfect while working for prominent iran-contra figures in the early nineteen eighties, several of whom were tied to the CIA linked bank the Bank of Credit and Commerce International BCCI, and had known relationships with Israeli, intelligence namely, the Mossad the nature of Epstein's work for. These individuals and other evidence strongly suggest that Epstein himself had a relationship with BCCI after leaving bear stearns and prior to the bank's collapse in Nineteen ninety-one of particular importance or epsteins relationship to the Clinton. Foundation and the alleged role of epsteins Virgin Islands based Hedge Fund and the Clinton Foundation and money laundering activity a relationship still under investigation by men press that is this tale of intrigue. The fully reveals the extent to which this decades old alliance between. Crime the CIA an Israeli intelligence has corrupted and influenced politicians of both political parties both through the use of sexual blackmail and through other means of coercion far from being the work of a single intelligence agency or a single country. The power structure revealed by this network connected to Epstein is nothing less than a criminal enterprise that transcends nationality and is willing to use and abused children in the pursuit of ever more power wealth and control existing for decades and willing to use any. Means necessary to cover its tracks. This criminal racket has become. So integrated into the levers of power in the United States, and well, beyond that, it is truly too big to fail the Iran Contra Meena airport and the Clintons when one thinks back to the now famous iran-contra scandal names like Ronald Reagan Oliver North and Barry Seal comes to mind but former president Bill Clinton also played an outsized role in the scandal using his home state of Arkansas where he was then serving as. Governor as a sort of rallying point for the CIA as US side of the central. American operation. In fact, during Clinton's reign as governor, a small town called Meena nestled in the ozark mountains. West of Arkansas has capital little rock would be propelled into the national spotlight as a hub for drug and arms smuggling, and the training of CIA backed far-right militias under the close watch of the CIA then led by William Casey. The mean enter mountain regional airport was used to stockpile and. Deliver arms and ammunition to the Nicaraguan contras. The arms were sometimes exchanged for cocaine from South American cartels, which would then be sent back to Meena and used to fund the covert CIA. Operation Though efforts have been made to dismiss Clinton's role in the scandal, his direct intervention in the contras attempts to overthrow the Sandinista government of Nicaragua suggests Clinton had some sort of personal stake in the efforts and was unlikely Aloof to the major smuggling operation taking place in his state, while he had. Been Governor. In fact, while Governor Clinton split with many other state governments in sending a contingency of the Arkansas National Guard to hundred to train the Nicaraguan contras on how to overthrow their Sandinista Government Clinton would also discuss his first-hand knowledge of the operation with now trump administration attorney general William bar much of this channeling of both weapons and drugs was carried out by notorious drug smuggler and alleged CIA D. A. Operative Berry seal according to the book white out the CIA drugs in. The press by Alexander. Cock. Burn and Jeffrey Saint Clair, a federal investigation aided by the Arkansas state police established that berry seal a drug dealer working for the Medellin cartel as well as with the CIA and the DA has planes retrofitted at Meena for drug drops trained pilots there and laundered is prophets partly through financial institutions in Arkansas seal at this time was in close contact with Oliver. North who acknowledged the relationship in his memoir these were the years in which north was constructing. His covert supply lines for the CONTRAS SEAL was known to use aircraft that belong to the company Southern, air transport, and he also employed flight crews that worked for that same company. Southern. Air Transport Formerly Air America was once directly owned by the CIA and today is remembered for being CIA front during the Iran Contra less known is the relationship between the CIA linked airline and Leslie Wexner and his then close associate Jeffrey Epstein which will be discussed in detail later in this report. Seemed to always operate with much less than six degrees of separation from Clinton. While the ladder served as governor and his nineteen, Ninety nine confessional expose crossfire witness in the Clinton investigation former Arkansas policeman turned personal driver and Security Guard for Bill Clinton L. D. Brown recounts how Clinton encouraged him to seek out a post of the CIA Clinton allegedly went so far as to edit the essay Brown wrote for this employment application. The Essay topic was drug smuggling in central. America upon receiving his. Application the CIA put Brown in touch with none other than berry seal seal would later be gunned down in nineteen eighty-six while serving six months probation for drug smuggling charges seal was not the only affiliate of Oliver North running a contra connected operation in Arkansas. Terry. Reid who had worked for north since nineteen eighty-three claimed to have been put in touch with seal by North and established a base just ten miles north of Meena in Nello Arkansas where Nicaraguan contras and other recruits from. Latin America were trained in resupply missions night landings precision para drops in similar maneuvers according to Cock burn and Saint Clair read further asserted that drug money was being laundered through. Arkansas. Financial institutions after Clinton half brother Roger was busted for cocaine smuggling Clinton would later pardon him. Well, president the CIA sought to move contra operations out of Arkansas hoping to put a damper on the increasingly public and sloppy Arkansas based operation according to Terry read in his book compromised Clinton. Bush the CIA. Co written with John Cummings of hushed meeting was held in a bunker at camp. Robinson. North Little Rock Arkansas during the meeting William Bar who represented himself as the emissary of the NCAA Director Bill Casey told Clinton the deal we made was to launder our money through your bond business. But what we didn't plan on was you and your nigger here start taking yourself seriously and purposely shrinking or laundry bar chastised Clinton for his sloppy handling of the delicate operation and his half brothers. Very public fall from grace. He would later tell, Clinton according to Read Bill You are Mr Casey's fair haired boy you and your state of been our greatest asset Mr Casey wanted me to pass on to you that unless you fuck up and do something stupid. You're number one on the shortlist for a shot at the job that you've always wanted you and guys like you are the fathers of the new government we are the new covenant attempts to investigate Clinton's role in the minor. Operations and more broadly in the Iran Contra. Affair were allegedly asked by Clinton's own confidence who consistently denied he played a role in the scandal according to the. Wall Street Journal. Former IRS investigator William Duncan teamed with Arkansas State Police. Investigator. Russell Welch in what became a decade long battle to bring the matter to light in fact of the nine separate state and federal probes into the affair all failed Dunkin would later say of the investigations they were interfered with an covered up and. The justice system was subverted and nineteen ninety-two memo from Duncan two high ranking members of the Attorney General's staff notes that Duncan was instructed to remove all files concerning the Meena investigation from the Attorney General's office the Attorney General serving under George H W Bush at that time was William Barr who is currently attorney general under trump the bank of crooks and criminals international another Clinton connection to the CIA end the Iran Contra affair runs through the family's connection to Arkansas Financier Jackson Stevens and. The CIA Link Bank of Credit and Commerce International B.. C. I which critics nicknamed the Bank of Crooks and criminals International Stevens was among the richest people in Arkansas and was also a major donor and backer of Ronald Reagan George H W Bush and Bill Clinton. He also played a key role in the rise of Walmart Jackson Stevens and other members of the Stevens family bankrolled Bill Clinton's rise to political prominence contributing large sums of money to both Clinton's gubernatorial and his later presidential. Campaigns in addition worthen bank, which was majority owned by Stevens provided Clinton's first presidential campaign a three point five, million dollar line of credit in addition, Stevens many businesses were frequently represented by the Rose Law Firm where Hillary Clinton was a partner a redacted F. B. I. Report from Nineteen Ninety eight described Stevens as having lengthy and continuing ties to the Clinton administration and Associates, and also discusses allegations that Stevens has been involved in the illegal handling of campaign contributions to the Democratic National? Party C. I had originally been founded by a group of bankers from Pakistan though Newsweek later reported that CIA officials appeared to have been involved in the bank's founding and that BCCI founder a god Hassan Betty had been encouraged by the CIA to found the bank after the agency realized that an international bank could provide valuable cover for intelligence operations CIA documents that later surfaced during congressional hearings on the bank's activities and related scandals stated that be see I was directly involved in money laundering narco financing running and holding large sums of money for terrorist groups though BCCI was known for its CIA links Catherine Austin Fitts. Former Assistant Secretary for Housing Federal Housing Commissioner at Hud during the George H W Bush administration an investment banker with the firms. Hamilton Securities Group and Dillon Reed and company believes that those links went well beyond the CIA fits who was placed on the board of the BCCI subsidiary first American Bank following BCCI's collapse told MINT press that after reading through troves of documents regarding the bank's activities prior to its implosion it was clear to her that there was no way. It's clandestine activities were carried on without the full knowledge of the federal. Reserve. Specifically the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and the White House BCCI. Also played a key role in the year on Contra affair and accounts of the bank were used a payoffs to individuals linked to the scheme Edmund. Khashoggi a key figure and intermediary in the scandal used one B. C. I. Account to move more than twenty million dollars related to illegal arms, sales, and B. C. I created fake documentation including check signed by Oliver North allowing the sale to go forward the bank. Later when it's activities subsequently came under congressional scrutiny claimed it had no records of these transactions in addition, BCCI appears to have been involved in the sex trafficking of underage girls including girls that had. Not, yet reached puberty according to the report entitled the BBC Affair By then US senators, John Kerry d Massachusetts and Hank Brown are Colorado BCCI officials were alleged to have obtained leverage with powerful individuals including prominent members of the ruling families of the United. Arab Emirates you a by providing them with young virgins. The report page seventy specifically states according to one US investigator with substantial knowledge of BCCI's activities. Some BCCI officials have acknowledged that some of the females provided some members of the Al Nahyan family. One of the ruling families in the UA were young girls who had not yet reached puberty and in certain cases. Were physically injured by the experience. The officials said that former BCCI officials had told him that BCC I also provided males to homosexual VIP's BCCI was largely brought into the United States business community through the efforts of Jackson Stevens and Burke Lance former budget director for Jimmy Carter who assisted with BCCI's acquisition of first. American bank the law firm involved in this effort was Arkansas's rose law firm and it involved several of the firm's lawyers including Hillary Rodham Clinton Webster Hubbell, and Cj your war also involved in the effort was Clark Clifford, former Secretary of defense under Lyndon B Johnson and Kamala Damn former director general. Of Saudi intelligence, one of the men added to the BCCI board after the acquisition of First American Bank was Robert Keith Gray, whom Newsweek described as often having boasted of his close relationship with the CIA William Casey Gray used to say that before taking on a foreign client, he would clear it with Casey as was discussed in part two of this series gray was also an expert in homosexual blackmail operations for the CIA and was reported to have collaborated with Roy Cohn in those activities. Some of Gray's clients at the powerful PR firm, he led hill and Knowlton included BCCI clients and Mossad. Linked individuals such as. Adnan Khashoggi and mark rich while the rose law firm was assisting BCCI's entrance into the American financial system. It also represented the Stevens own, financial services company Stevens. Inc as well as the data processing company, systematics. INC which Stevens acquired in the late nineteen sixties according to James Norman in his book. The oil card global economic warfare in the twenty first century systematics was the primary vehicle or Front Company for the National Security Agency in the nineteen eighties and early nineteen ninety s to market an implant bugged software in the world's major money center banks and clearing houses as part of the Reagan Bush follow the money. Effort to break the Soviets the late journalist Michael. Ruppert asserted that this bugged software was none other than the promise software which both US and Israeli intelligence had bugged in order to spy on intelligence and which had been marketed in part by Robert Maxwell father of Jeffrey Epstein Madame Gallon Maxwell Ruppert cited systematics as a primary developer of promise for Financial Intelligence. US promise had originally been leased by in slow incorporated a small software company founded by Bill. Hamilton to the Department of Justice, which later stole it from inside law forcing it to declare bankruptcy according to a nineteen, ninety five documents sent on behalf of enslow. To then independent counsel Ken Starr that asked him to review in slow case, systematics had covertly implanted software into the computers of its bank customers that allowed allied intelligence agencies surreptitiously repetitiously to track and monitor the flow of money through the banking system and had done. So at the behest of the US National Security Agency and essay and its partner in Israeli intelligence in slow also stated that the software was used by these same intelligence agencies in the laundering of money. Especially, drug profits systematics also had A. Subsidiary. In Israel that according to a former Israeli intelligence officer was operated by contractors for the Mossad and sold software to banks and telecommunications companies according to Richardson's letter that Israeli subsidiary of systematics also had a Massachusetts based front company, which was partially owned by former US intelligence official to partners in the rose law firm who would later serve in the Clinton administration Vince Foster and webster. Hubbell acquired significant financial interests in systematics through ownership and alltel, which purchased systematics in the early nineteen nineties. The HAMILTONS also provide. Considerable evidence that fosters distress prior to his death in Nineteen ninety-three appears to have been related to concerns about litigation involving systematics and the ongoing litigation over promises theft BCCI itself was known to employ the promise software after its theft by the DOJ and one of its subsidiaries. First American Bank also filtered promise money as in laundered the money generated from the sale of the stolen promise software according to the late journalist Danny Casale Casale had been investigating an international crime syndicate determined the Octopus at the time. Of His death in Nineteen ninety-one Casale believed that this octopus involve powerful individuals in the private and public sectors as well as the criminal underworld and that they were collectively responsible for some of the biggest scandals of the nineteen eighties including iran-contra BCCI and the theft of the promise software Casale had told friends and family that he was close to concluding his investigation and several people close to him had seen documents involving money transfers involving BCC I and the world, bank to people involved in these scandals such as. Earl. Brian and Adnan. Khashoggi Casale went to Martinsburg Virginia to meet with some sources to get the final piece of the puzzle and bring back the head of the octopus two days after arriving in Martinsburg Cassara was found dead in his hotel room and his briefcase full of his research notes and evidence was missing his death was ruled a suicide many including Casale rose family. Do not believe that Casale committed suicide a week before his death Casale told his brother he had been receiving death threats and the. Manner in which he died deep slashes in his arms was not consistent with Casale rose well known squeamishness around even minor amounts of blood speculation only grew following the FBI investigation given that the FBI lied to. Congress pressured its own agents not to question whether it was a suicide and lost ninety percent of its files related to Casale death among other glaring inconsistencies in nineteen ninety, four letter provided to mint press by in slow incorporated. In slow lawyer Charles Work told them Assistant Attorney General John Dwyer that one. Of Ins laws, confidential sources in government had stated the Casale injected with substance the dead in his nerves from the neck down explaining the apparent lack of struggle and the substance used had come from the US army inventory. The person who had arranged Casale final meeting before his death was a US military intelligence officer named Joseph Keeler the same year that Casale died there were several other suspicious deaths involving people directly connected to the promise scandal or involved in Casale rose investigation of the octopus including. Allen standoff. One of Casale rose sources, Robert Maxwell father of lane, Maxwell Mossad operative, and salesman of the Bug Promise Software and John Tower the former Texas senator who assisted Maxwell in selling the Bug promise software to the Los Alamos laboratories. 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Jeffrey Epstein and the Dirtiest Bank of all while the role Arkansas played in Iran Contra is one aspect of the scandal that is often overlooked so too is the key role played by Israeli intelligence linked arms, dealers, and smugglers who would later be connected to powerful individuals in the Mega Group and Jeffrey, Epstein, such mark rich and Adnan Khashoggi one of the key players in the Iran Contra affair was Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi uncle of the slain Washington Post columnist. Jamal Shaggy one lesser known fact about Adnan Khashoggi is that at the time of his iran-contra dealings he was. Working for the Israeli Mossad according to former Mossad agent Victor Astrology astrology in his Number One New York Times bestseller. By Way of deception notes that Khashoggi had been recruited by the Mossad years before and that his private jet had been fitted in Israel in relation to Iran Contra. Ostrovsky claims that it was a five million dollar bridge loan that Khashoggi provided that help to overcome the lack of trust between Israel and Iran during the initial arms deals in the early nineteen, Eighty S, and thus his participation was critical to the success of the scheme according to journalist Vicky Ward. Adnan Khashoggi was a client of Jeffrey Epstein's in the early nineteen eighties not long after Epstein's departure from bear stearns in Nineteen eighty-one the reason Epstein left the bank remains murky though some former bear stearns employees claim he was fired others including Epstein, himself claimed that he resigned of his own volition ward suggests that Epstein may have left the bank owing to a securities and Exchange Commission SEC investigation into insider trading in a case that involved a tender offer placed by the Seagram's corporation for Saint Joe Minerals. Corporation Seagram's owner Edgar Bronfman son of Meyer lansky associates. Samuel Bronfman than. Member of the Mega Group had tipped off several investors and bankers of the coming tender offer Epstein resigned from bear stearns the day after the SEC opened the case and later claimed he had left the company as a result of a relatively minor ragged violation and rumors that he had an illicit affair with the secretary. Yet as Ward noted, the SEC never brought any charges against anyone at bear stearns for insider trading in Saint Joe. But it's questioning seems to indicate that it was skeptical of Epstein's answers. Some sources have wondered why if he was such a big producer at bear. Stearns. He would have given it up over mere two, thousand, five hundred dollars fine regardless of the exact reason for Epstein. Sudden departure it was immediately after he left the bank, the details of Epstein's work history recede into shadow a few of the handful of current friends who have known him since the early nineteen eighties recall that he used to tell them he was a bounty hunter recovering lost or stolen money for the government or for very rich people. He has a licensed to carry a firearm writing in Salon. A former friend of Epstein's Jesse Kornblum also stated that Epstein. Had claimed to be a bounty hunter for the rich and powerful when we met in Nineteen eighty-six epsteins double identity intrigued me he said, he didn't just manage money for clients with mega fortunes. He was also a high level bounty hunter. Sometimes, he told me he worked for governments to recover money looted by African dictators other times those dictators hired him to help them hide their stolen money emphasis added one of Epstein's clients after leaving bear stearns per ward sources was the CIA Mossad linked Khashoggi at the very time that Khashoggi was involved in Iran Contra and operation involving both us. And Israeli intelligence British journalist Nigel Rosser reported in January two thousand one in the Evening Standard that Epstein had claimed that he was also working for the CIA during the same time period since Epstein's arrest records of rousers article have been scrubbed from British newspaper archives including the Evening Standard Zone. However meant press independently confirmed with Travis whom Rosser had interviewed for the article in question that the article did alleged that Eptein used to claim he worked for the CIA an addition other reports from the time period cited excerpts of rousers article including the reference to Epstein. Past claims of. Involvement. With the CIA specifically, rousers article had included the following passage. He Epstein has a licensed to carry a concealed weapon once claimed to have worked for the CIA although he now denies it and owns properties all over America. Once he arrived at the London home of a British arms dealer bringing a gift and New York Police Issue Pump Action Riot Gun God knows how he got it into the country. A friend said though Epstein denied past connections to the CIA at the time racers article was published. It is worth mentioning that Robert Maxwell, father of Glenn Maxwell and longtime? Mossad. Operative also vehemently denied is now well documented links to Israeli intelligence until his death furthermore as will be shown later in this Article Epstein and his only known billionaire client Leslie wexner would later forge a business relationship with the CIA front company Southern Air Transport and play a major role in the airlines relocation to Columbus Ohio in the mid nineteen ninety s during that period two prominent Ohio officials believed that both Epstein and Wexner were working with the CIA according to Ohio based journalist Bob Fiscus past claims and evidence of Epstein's involvement with the CIA coupled with his time as. A. Shadowy financial fixer for double asset Khashoggi strongly suggest that whatever Epstein was doing for Khashoggi during this time it likely involve BCCI according to the BCC C.. I. Affair Report Khashoggi acted as the middleman for five or in arms deals for the United States financing a number of them through BCC, I n serve does the banker for arms shipments as the undercover scheme developed the report continued Khashoggi. Another. Iran-contra Arms Dealer Manager Gordon Affir- performed a central role for the US government in connection with the Iran Contra affair and operations that involve the direct participation of CIA personnel and both. Khashoggi and Gordon a for bank at BCCI's offices in Monte Carlo and for both BCCI's services were essential as a means of providing short term credit for sales from the US through Israel to your on this connection is even more likely given the fact that bear stearns epsteins previous employer right up until he became a financial fixer for Khashoggi and other powerful people also worked directly with BCC I during this period indeed bear stearns served as a broker to bcci a fact that remained hidden until a lengthy court battle in the UK concluded in twenty eleven and force the government. Sandstorm report about BCCI's activities to unredacted the names of bear stearns and other institutions individuals in countries the done business with the CIA link. Bank. Furthermore, there is the additional fact BCCI trafficked underage girls for sex as a means of obtaining favors from gaining leverage over powerful individuals something in which Epstein would later become deeply involved as was shown in part two of this series several individuals who were running either sexual blackmail operations involving minors or child trafficking operations were connected to CIA front companies like BCCI, other organizations connected to the Iran, Contra scandal and several individuals close to the Reagan. White House the CIA director at the time Bill Casey was a close friend of Roy Cohn who also ran the sexual blackmail operation involving underage boys out of Manhattan's plaza. Hotel described in part one of the series according to cones. Longtime. Secretary. Christine. Seymour. Casey was one of cones most frequent colors and other fact that further suggests that Epstein had connections to bcci his that Epstein was known to have been close to other arms dealers of the period and B. C.. I was frequently used specifically for covert arms deals after the bank's collapse in nineteen, ninety, one and article in. Time magazine entitled BCCI The. Dirtiest Bank of all noted the following the CIA may have used BCC. I is more than an undercover banker US agents collaborated with the black network in several operations according to A. B. C. I network officer who is now a secret US government witness sources have told investigators that be see I worked closely with Israel's spy agencies and other Western intelligence groups as well. especially in arms deals emphasis added one of the arms dealers that Epstein apparently knew quite well was the British arms dealer Sir Douglas Lease Lease was involved in brokering the first of A. Series of controversial British arms deals that involve Khashoggi known as the Al Yamamah deal and allegedly involving bribery of members of the Saudi Royal Family and top Saudi officials in addition to Khashoggi. Several of those officials in royal family members had deep ties to BCCI. Later, iterations of the arms deal were allegedly brokered with the involvement of Prince. Charles of the British Royal Family and corruption investigations into Al Yamamah were later shut down by the efforts of Tony Blair as well as Prince. Andrew Lisa's said to have spoken of Epstein's genius and lack of morals when he introduced him to. Steve Hoffenberg of tower financial, and soon after that introduction Hoffenberg hired Epstein two years after BCCI's fraud driven collapse tower financial imploded in Nineteen ninety-three in what is still considered to be one of the largest ponzi schemes. In American History Hoffenberg later asserted in court that Epstein had been intimately involved in towers. Shady Financial Practices and had called Epstein, the architect of the scam. However, by the time tower financial had collapsed. Epstein was no longer working for the company despite Hoffenberg testimony and abundant evidence regarding epsteins role in the scheme epsteins name was mysteriously dropped from the case given that Epstein. received his sweetheart deal in two thousand eight as a result of having belonged to intelligence epsteins activities in the nineteen eighties and early nineteen nineties suggests that his ability to avoid charges in relation to the Tower Financial Ponzi scheme may have been for similar reasons though Hoffenberg claims that he met Epstein through Lease Epstein himself claimed that he had met the convicted fraudster through John Mitchell former attorney. General under Richard, Nixon had noted in part two of the series Mitchell was a friend of disgraced Washington lobbyist Craig Spence according to Spence before his fall from Grace Spence for much of the nineteen eighties ran a sexual blackmail operation in DC involving underage boys and had taken some of those cowboys on midnight tours of the White House that he said had been arranged by the National Security Advisor. Donald Greg. Spence after his trafficking and exploitation of minors was exposed died under mysterious circumstances. His death was quickly labeled a suicide not unlike Jeffrey Epstein's with Epstein and Wexner is help spook air finds a new home while the state of Arkansas became a hub for CIA activity during the Reagan years in the Iran. Contra scandal another state appeared to take its place in the nineteen nineties Ohio. Just as Arkansas. Oliver Jackson Stevens helped to track the CIA to his home state during the Iran Contra, it was also in Ohio oligarchy and his close associate that helped attract the CIA to the Buckeye state. Those men were Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein respectively and part three of the series mint press detailed wexner alleged ties to organized crime and his links to the still unsolved homicide, of course. Lawyer Arthur Shapiro. Shapiro who was representing Wexner Company the limited at the time of his death was set to testify before a grand jury about tax evasion and his involvement with questionable tax shelters. Columbus Police described the Shapiro murder as a Mafia hit and suppressed police report implicated wexner and his business associates as being involved in her benefiting from Shapiro's death and has having links to prominent New York based crime syndicates however, Wexner in the limited also appear to have had a relationship with the CIA and nineteen ninety-five southern air transport. Sat a well known front company for the CIA relocated from Miami Florida to Columbus Ohio I founded in the late nineteen forties sat from nineteen sixty until. Nineteen seventy-three was directly owned by the CIA which sought to use the company as a cover for covert operations. After Nineteen seventy-three, the company was placed in private hands although all of its subsequent owners would have CIA ties including James Bastion a former lawyer for the guy who owned sat at the time of its relocation to Ohio sat was intimately involved in the Iran Contra affair having been used to funnel weapons and drugs to and from the Nicaraguan contras under the guise of delivering humanitarian aid while also sending American weapons to Israel that were then sold to your on in violation of the US arms embargo in nineteen, eighty, six alone sat transported from Texas to Israel Ninety tons. Of Tow anti-tank missiles, which were then sold to European, by Israel and Mossad linked intermediaries like Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi even though the airline CIA links were well known Leslie Wexner Company, the limited sought to coax sat to relocate its headquarters from Miami Florida to Columbus Ohio a move that was realized in Nineteen Ninety five when Edmund James President of James and Donohue Development Services told the Columbus dispatch in March nineteen ninety-five that sat was relocating to Columbus rickenbacker airfield. He stated that southern airs new presence a trick and Becker begins in April with to regularly scheduled seven hundred, forty, seven cargo flights a week from Hong Kong citing SAT president William Langton by full that could increase. To. Four week negotiations are underway for flights out of rickenbacker to the Far East much of the Hong Kong to rickenbacker cargo will be for the limited wexner clothing company. This is a big story for Central Ohio. It's huge actually James said at the time the day following the press conference, Brian Clancy working as a cargo analyst with Merge Global Inc told the Journal of Commerce that the reason for sat's relocation to Ohio, was largely the result of the lucrative Hong Kong to Columbus route that sat would run for Wexner company clancy specifically stated that the fact that the limited inc the nation's largest retailer is based in Columbus undoubtedly contributed in large part to southern airs decision according to. Documents obtained by journalist Bob Photographers from the Rickenbacker Port Authority Ohio's government also tried to sweeten the deal to bring sat to Columbus in order please powerful Ohio businessman like wexner orchestrated by Governor George Voinovich. Then chief of staff Paul Mifid the Rickenbacker Port Authority in the Ohio Department of Development created a package of several financial incentives funded by Ohio taxpayers to lure the airline to relocate to Ohio the Journal of Commerce described the generous package of incentives from the state of Ohio as including a seventy five percent credit against its corporate tax liability for the next ten years a five million dollar low interest loan and four, hundred, thousand, dollar job training grant and Nineteen ninety-six then sat. Spokesman David Sweden told for that. The CIA linked airline had only moved to Columbus because the deal put together by the Development Department was too good to turn down though sat had promised Ohio's government that it would create three hundred jobs in three years. It quickly laid off numerous workers and failed to construct the maintenance facility. It had promised even though it already accepted three point five million dollars in taxpayer funds for that and other projects as the company's financial problems. Mounted Ohio's government declined to recoup the millions in dollars at loaned the company even after it was alleged that thirty two million dollars in the bank account of Mary Bastian the wife of SAT's owner and former CIA lawyer. James Bastion were actually company funds on October First Nineteen Ninety eight sat filed for bankruptcy. It was the very same day that the CIA inspector general had published a comprehensive report on the airlines elicit involvement in drug trafficking. Furthermore, FA troika's noted that in addition to Wexner, the other main figures who were key in securing sat's relocation to Ohio where Alan D. fears junior a former chief of the CIA Central American Task Force and retired Air Force, Major General Richard, secord head of air. Logistics for sat's covert action in Laos between nineteen, sixty, six and nineteen, sixty eight while the company was still known as Air America secord was also the Air Logistics Coordinator in the Illegal Contra resupply. Network for Oliver North during the Iran Contra fears was one of the key individuals involved in iran-contra who was later pardoned by George H W Bush with the assistance of then Attorney General Bill Bar bar currently serving as attorney general in the trump administration and top of the chain of Doj Command in the investigation of Epstein's death in prison has refused to recuse himself from the investigation into epsteins network whose recent death despite the involvement of these CIA link men as well as the organized crime linked Leslie Wexner. Then president of sat told the Columbus dispatch that the airline was no longer connected to the CIA notably, it was during the same time that Epstein exerted substantial control over wexner. And according to focus in his extensive reporting on Wexner from this period, it was Epstein who orchestrated logistics for Wexner business operations including the limited as was revealed in the Arthur Shapiro murder file, Annan ties between sat and the limited much of the limits logistics, involved figures and companies connected to organized crime and US intelligence that is also important to note that sat was well known for being a CIA front company prior to the. Efforts of Wexner et Al to bring the airline to Columbus and that a few years prior Epstein himself had previously worked for intelligence link figures also involved in Iran-contra such as Adnan Khashoggi in addition during this time period Epstein had already begun to live in the now infamous New York penthouse that had I been purchased by Wexner in Nineteen eighty-nine Wexner had apparently installed CCTV and recording equipment in an odd bathroom in the home. After his purchase and never lived in the home, as was noted in part three of the series and an exclusive interview. Bob Troikas told, Mint, press that Epstein wexner involvement with sat's relocation to Ohio had caused suspicion among some prominent state and local officials that the two were working with US intelligence. The truck specifically stated that then Ohio Inspector General David struts and then sheriff of Franklin County? Earl. Smith. Had personally told him that. They believed that both Epstein and Wexner had ties to the CIA. These claims further corroborate what was first reported by Nigel. Rosser. In the Evening Standard that Epstein had claimed to have worked for the CIA in the past the truck is also told Mint press that struts had referred to sat's route between Hong Kong and Columbus on behalf of Wexner company the limited as the Meyer Lansky on as he believed that wexner association with. Sat was related to his ties to elements of organized crime that were connected to the Lansky created National Crime Syndicate. In addition Catherine Austin fits the former investment banker and government official who has extensively investigated the intersection of organized crime, Black Markets Wall Street and the government in the US economy was told by next. CIA I. A. Employees that Wexner was one of five key managers of organized crime cash flows in the United States. As this series has noted in previous reports. Meyer Lansky was a pioneer of sexual blackmail operations and was deeply connected to both US intelligence and Israel's Mossad. Furthermore, many members of the so-called Mega Group which Wexner co-founded had direct ties to the Lansky Crime Syndicate Marc Rich's pardon and Israel's leverage over Clinton. Another shadowy figure with connections to the group Mossad US intelligence and organized crime is the fugitive financier mark rich who's pardoned during. The last days of the Clinton white houses both well known and still mired in controversy years after the fact, mark rich commodities trader and Hedge Fund manager best known for founding the Commodity Trading and mining giant Glencore and for doing business with numerous dictatorships often in violation of sanctions, he worked particularly closely with Israel land according to Haaretz in the years after the nineteen seventy three Yom Kippur war, and the ensuing global Arab oil. Embargo a period when nobody wanted to sell oil to Israel for almost twenty years rich was the main source of the country's oil and energy needs. It was that trading on Israel's behalf that would ultimately lead to rich being charged nineteen eighty-three for violating the US oil embargo on Iran by selling Iranian oil to Israel rich was also charged with tax evasion, wire, fraud racketeering, and several other crimes. Haaretz also noted that riches businesses. Were a source of funding for secret financial arrangements, and that is worldwide offices according to several reliable sources frequently served Mossad agents with his consent return had more direct ties to the Mossad as well. For instance, his foundation, the rich foundation was run by the former Mossad agent Avenue Razaleigh rich was also friendly with prominent Israel politicians including former prime ministers. Menachem Begin, and who Barack and was a frequent provider of services for Israeli. Intelligence services he freely volunteered according to rich's biographer Daniel Emon rich also fed information to US intelligence but declined to give specifics. He did not want to tell with whom he cooperated within the US authorities or which branch of the US government he supplied with intelligence. M and set an interview with the daily beast. One clue as to the nature of riches relationship to US intelligence his apparent ties to BCCI the, BCCI affair report. Mentions. Rich as a person to investigate in relation to the BANKIN STATES BCC lending to rich in the nineteen eighties amounted to tens of millions of dollars. Moreover, riches commodities firms were used by BCC I in connection with BCCI'S I N V O. L V Eamon in US guarantee programs through the Department of Agriculture, the nature and extent of riches relationship with BCC I requires further investigation rich was also deeply tied to the mega. Group as he was one of the main donors to the birthright Israel charity along with Mega Group Co founder Charles Bronfman and Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt. Steinhardt. was particularly close to rich first meeting the commodities trader in the nineteen seventies and then managing three million dollars for rich riches. Then wife Denise and riches father in law from the early nineteen eighties to the mid nineteen nineties through his hedge fund in the late nineteen. Ninety S Steinhardt would enlist other mega group members such as Edgar Bronfman in the effort to settle the criminal charges against rich, which eventually came to pass with Clinton's controversial pardon in two thousand one STEINHARDT claimed to have come up with the idea of a presidential pardon for rich in late two, thousand Richard Pardon was controversial for several reasons and many mainstream outlets asserted the treat of pay off as the New York Post noted. In Two thousand sixteen in the run-up to the presidential pardon, the financiers ex wife Denise had donated four hundred fifty thousand dollars to the fledgling Clinton Library and over one million dollars to democratic campaigns in the Clinton era in addition. Richard hired high powered lawyers with links to powerful individuals in both the Democratic and Republican parties as well as the Clinton White House including Jack Quinn who has previously served as general counsel to the. Clinton administration and his former chief of staff to Vice President Al Gore however per Clinton's own words and other supporting evidence. The main reason behind the rich pardon was the heavy lobbying from Israeli intelligence Israeli politicians and members of the megagroup like Steinhardt with the donations from denise rich in Quincy Access to the president likely sweetening the deal among the most ardent lobbyists for rich's pardon were then Israeli prime minister who Barack former prime. Minister Shimon Peres then mayor of Jerusalem Olmert then former Foreign Minister Shlomo Benami and former director of the Mossad Shabtai Shavit according to Haaretz Barrack was so adamant that Clinton pardoned Marc Rich. That was heard shouting at the president on at least one occasion former adviser to Barack Yanev claimed that Barack had shouted the pardon was important not only from the financial aspect but also because he helped the most saw more than one instance. The Israel lobbying effort had considerable help from Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt as well as Abe Foxman of the anti-defamation League ad l., which was at the time heavily funded by mega group members including Ronald. Lauder and Edgar Bronfman there has been speculation for years that Clinton's decision to pardon rich may have been the result of leverage your blackmail that Israel had acquired on then president's activities as was noted in part three of this. report the Mossad linked mega spy scandal broke in Nineteen ninety-seven, whereby Israeli intelligence had been targeting Clinton's effort to broker a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine, and had sought to go to mega likely a reference to the mega group to obtain a sensitive document in addition, Israel is known to have acquired phone conversations between Clinton and Monica Lewinsky before their affair was made public author Daniel Helper relying on on the record interviews with. Former officials in hundreds of pages of documents compiled in the event that Lewinsky took legal action against Clinton determined that Benjamin, Netanyahu told Clinton that he had obtained recordings of the sexually tinged phone conversations during the white plantation talks between Israel and Palestine in Nineteen Ninety eight Netanyahu attempted to use this information to get Clinton to pardon convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard Clinton considered pardoning Pollard but decided against it after CIA director George Tenet. Threatened to resign if the pardon was given investigative journalist and author Gordon Thomas had made similar claims years prior and asserted that the Mossad had obtained some thirty hours of phone sex conversations between Lewinsky and Clinton and use them as leverage. In addition a report, an insight magazine in May, two thousand claimed that Israeli intelligence had penetrated four White House telephone lines and was able to real time conversations on those lines from a remote. Site outside the White House directly to Israel for listening and recording those phone taps apparently went well beyond the White House as revealed by December two thousand one investigative report by Carl Cameron for Fox. News according to Cameron's report Israeli Telecommunications Company and helped Bell Atlantic install new telephone lines in the White House in Nineteen ninety-seven and senior level employees of Amdex, had a separate t one data phone line installed from his base outside. Of Saint Louis that was connected directly to Israel investigators are looking into whether the owner of the t one line had a real time capacity to intercept fallen calls from both the White House and other government offices around Washington and sustained the line for some time sources said sources familiar with the investigation say F. B. I. Agents on the case sought an arrest warrant for the Saint Louis Employees but Clinton Justice Department officials washed. It according to journalist Chris Ketchum both DACHSHUND BEHRENDT INC formerly converse emphases are based in Israel having risen to prominence from that country's cornering of the information technology market and are heavily funded by the Israeli government with connections to the Israeli military and Israeli intelligence the company's operations sources suggest have been infiltrated by freelance spies exploiting encrypted doors in Erin docs technology and gathering data on Americans for transfer to Israeli intelligence and other willing. Customers particularly organized crime given the extent of phone tapping of the US government by Israeli intelligence linked companies and Netanyahu's previous use of intercepted phone calls to pressure Clinton to pardon Jonathan Pollard it is entirely reasonable to speculate that some other trove of intercepted communications could have been used to push Clinton to part rich in the final hours of his presidency. Also notable is the fact that several figures heavily lobbied Clinton over the rich. Pardon had ties to Epstein who also had ties to Israeli intelligence and Israeli intelligence linked tech companies as discussed in part three of the series for example, and Barack a close friend and business associated Epstein, and Shimon Peres who introduced Barack to Epstein were the major players in convincing Clinton part and mark rich furthermore as will be shown in a subsequent section of this report. Jeffrey Epstein had developed ties with the Clinton administration beginning. In nineteen ninety-three and those ties expanded particularly in Nineteen ninety-six. When epsteins intelligence linked sexual blackmail operation was underway Clinton would later fly on epsteins infamous private jet nicknamed the Lalita Express and Epstein would later donate to the Clinton Foundation and claimed to have played a key role in the creation of the Clinton Global Initiative in addition to the role of figures close to Epstein in securing rich's pardon Epstein himself appeared to share some Level of connection with riches, former business partners for instance, Felix posing who ran riches London operations for years and whom Forbes described as the architect of riches immensely profitable. But suddenly, very controversial business with the Soviet Union appears in Epstein's book of contacts in addition epsteins offshore structured investment vehicle sieve liquid funding has the same attorney and director several glencore entities Alex Skin of the law firm appleby the significance of that connection however is. Unclear given that her skin was connected to a total of two hundred, seventy, four offshore entities at the time of the paradise papers. Leak in twenty fourteen Catherine Austin Fitts told MINT press that it could suggest that Epstein's liquid funding forty percent of which had been owned by bear stearns and which may have received a secret bailout from the Federal Reserve is part of the same shadow Economy Syndicate Glencore this possibility merits further investigation. Given. That glencore is partially owned by British Financier Nathaniel Rothschild whose Father Jacob Rothschild is on the board of Advisors, of Genie, energy, which includes Michael Steinhardt as well as several alleged associates of Epstein, such as Bill, Richardson, and Larry Summers in addition Nathaniel Rothschild cousin by marriage, Lynn Forrester derives child is a longtime associated Jeffrey Epstein with considerable ties to the New York City Roy cone machine March. Had long standing ties to the Rothschild family going back to the early nineteen seventies when he began commodity trading at Philip Brothers Lynn Forester de. Rothschild surprising interest in Epstein after Epstein's arrests I in two, thousand seven, and then again last month numerous media reports emerged detailing the links between Epstein and Clinton with most asserting that they had met not long after Clinton left office in two thousand one and recently mentioned issued the controversial pardon of mark rich those reports. Claimed that the Epstein Clinton relationship had been facilitated by epsteins longtime girlfriend and alleged Madam Lane Maxwell however documents obtained from the Clinton Presidential Library have revealed the ties between Epstein and Clinton date back years earlier and were facilitated by powerful individuals who have largely evaded scrutiny in connection with the Epstein case one major player who has been largely overlooked in bringing Epstein end the Clintons together as Lynn, Forrester Rothschild notably Forrester Rothschild has. Long. BEEN CONNECTED TO NEOCONSERVATIVE REAGAN ERA officials the Louis Rosen Steel Roy Cohn network described in parts one and two of the series, as well as the mega group which was detailed in part three of the series Lynn Forester de Rothschild became involved in the world of Democratic Party politics in the late nineteen seventies when she worked on the nineteen seventy, six campaign of hawkish Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan d New York alongside now notorious neo. Like Elliot Abrams who would go onto play an important role in the year on Contra affair during the Reagan era, and later serve in the State Department under trump. She was also introduced her second husband Evelyn Rothschild by Henry Kissinger at Bilderberg conference several of the individuals connected to the mega group and the Mossad link media mogul Robert Maxwell including Mark Palmer Max. Fisher and John Leman were one time aides or advisers to Henry Kissinger, before marrying into the Rothschild family in two thousand, Lynn had previously been married to Andrew Stein a major figure in New York democratic politics with whom she had two sons. Andrew's brother James. Finkelstein married Kathy Frank the granddaughter of Louis Rosen steal the mob link businessman who ran a sexual blackmail operation. Exploiting underage boys as was discussed in part one of the series Rosen steals protege Roy Cohn was the lawyer for Kathy Franken James Finkelstein and it was at their behest that cone attempted to trick nearly comatose Rosenstiel into naming Cohn frank and Finkelstein the executors and trustees of his estate valued at seventy five, million dollars more than three, hundred, thirty, four, million in today's. Dollars according to The New Yorker Lynn Forester de Rothschild requested financial help from none other than Jeffrey Epstein in Nineteen ninety-three during her divorce from Andrew Stein as far as forester Rothschild's ties to the mega group go she is currently on the board of directors of Estee Lauder companies which was founded and is still owned by the family of Ronald Lauder a member of. The Mega Group, a former Reagan official, a family friend of Roy Cohn and the alleged source of Jeffrey. Epstein's now infamous Austrian passport in addition forrester. Rothschild also partnered with Matthew Bronfman son of Mega Group member Edgar Bronfman and grandson of Samuel. Bronfman. who had close ties to Meyer Lansky in creating the investment advisory firm Bronfman Rothschild LP it is unclear when Lynn Forester De Rothschild. I met Jeffrey Epstein. But she was one of his leading advocates and had the ear of then President Bill Clinton in the early nineteen nineties speaking to Clinton specifically about Epstein during her fifteen seconds of access with the President and also introducing Epstein to lawyer Alan Dershowitz. In Nineteen, ninety-six Forrester Rothschild is a longtime associate of the Clintons and has been a Major donor to both bill and Hillary Clinton since nineteen ninety-two, their ties were so close that Forrester de Rothschild spent the first night of her honeymoon at the Lincoln bedroom in the White House while Clinton was president furthermore a leaked email between Forester de Rothschild and Hillary Clinton sought Clinton request pennants from Forrester Rothschild for asking Tony Blair to accompany Clinton on official business. While she was secretary of State preventing Blair from making a plan social visit to forester to Rothschild's home in Aspen Colorado humbly. Requesting forgiveness is not something Hillary Clinton is known for given that her former bodyguard once said, she could make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Gandhi and nineteen ninety-five Forrester de Rothschild then a member of Clinton's national. Information Infrastructure Advisory Council wrote the. Following, to then President Clinton. Dear Mr President it was a pleasure to see you recently at Senator Kennedy's house. There was too much to discuss and too little time using my fifteen seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization I-. Neglected to talk to you about a topic near and dear to my heart namely affirmative action in the future Forrester Rothschild. Then states that she had been asked to prepare a memo on behalf of George Stephanopoulos, former Clinton communications director, and currently a broadcast journalist with ABC News Stephanopoulos attended a Dinner Party hosted by Epstein at his now infamous Manhattan Townhouse in twenty. Ten. After Epstein's released from prison for soliciting sex from a minor while it is unknown what Forrester de Rothschild discussed with Clinton. Regarding Epstein and currency stabilization. A potential lead milllion, the links of both Forrester, Rothschild and Epstein to bank journalist Vicky. Ward reported in two thousand three that Epstein boasted of skill at playing the currency markets with very large sums of money and he appears to have done much of this through his long standing relationship with Deutsche Bank the new. York Times reported last month. epsteen appears to have been doing business trading currencies through Deutsche Bank until just a few months ago, according to people familiar with his business activities but is the possibility of federal charges loomed the bank ended its client relationship with Mr Epstein. It is not clear what the value of those accounts was at the time they were closed in the case of Forrester de Rothschild. She served as an advisor to the Deutsche Bank Microfinance Consortium for several years, and is currently a board member of the Alfred. Harrison. Society of international dialogue of Deutsche Bank the same year Forrester de Rothschild made the above noted comments to Bill Clinton about Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein attended another Clinton fundraiser hosted by Ron Perlman at his personal home that was very exclusive as the. Guest List included only fourteen people the evolution of the Epstein Clinton relationship even before Forrester de Rothschild's nineteen, ninety, five meeting with Clinton. Epstein was already an established Clinton donor records obtained by the daily revealed that Epstein had donated ten thousand dollars to the White House Historical Association and attended a Clinton donor reception alongside Gallon Maxwell as early as nineteen ninety-three, the daily beast. Suggest the Bill Clinton's longtime friend from his college days. April per sperry was the facilitator of that early relationship as perspire had a decades long relationship with Epstein and even visited Epstein at least twenty times while he was in jail in two, thousand, eight per aspera was intimately involved with the nineteen ninety-three fundraiser for the White House Historical Association noted above the relationship between. Epstein and Clinton would continue well after Clinton left office in two thousand, one, a fact well documented by Bill Clinton's now infamous flights are nets. Teens recently sold private jet often referred to as the lead of Express Clinton flew on the Lalita expressed no less than twenty six times in the early two thousands according to flight logs on some of those flights Clinton was. Accompanied by his secret service detail but he was unaccompanied on other flights. Arguably the most infamous flight taken by Clinton on Epstein jet was a lengthy to Africa. Where actor Kevin, spacey, who has also been accused of raping minors, Glenn Maxwell and Ron Burkle a billionaire friend of Clinton's who has been accused of soliciting the services of super high end call girls were. Also present Clinton specifically requested that Epstein make his jet available for the trip well in advance with Doug. Band. The intermediary President Donald. Trump, also, a friend of Epstein is said to the flown on the plane, but appears only once on flight logs in addition to flights and Epstein run. Foundation gave twenty five thousand dollars to the Clinton Foundation according to the two thousand. Six filing tax return of epsteins former charity the c o q foundation notably epsteins lawyers, Alan Dershowitz among them claimed in two thousand seven that Epstein had been part of the original group that conceived the Clinton. Global Initiative, which is described as a project bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges. Before the associations between Epstein and the Clinton White House in the early nineteen nineties were made public Glenn Maxwell was thought to have been the bridge between Epstein and the Clinton family because of her close relationship to the family. However, the close relationship between Maxwell in the Clintons appears to have developed in the two thousands with political reporting that it began after bill. Clinton. Left Office Clinton Associated Doug Band was also reportedly friendly to Maxwell appearing at an exclusive dinner party she hosted at a residence in New York in two thousand five Maxwell later became particularly close to Chelsea Clinton vacationing with Chelsea in two thousand nine and attending her wedding a year. Later Maxwell was also associated with the Clinton Global Initiative at least up until twenty thirteen. Other close Clinton associates and officials in the early nineteen nineties also had notable relationships with Jeffrey Epstein including. Mark Middleton who was a special assistant to Clinton chief of staff Mack McLarty because in nineteen ninety three and met with Epstein on at least three occasions in the White House during the Clinton years in addition White House Social Secretary under Clinton and stock appears in. EPSTEINS little black book as does Doug Band once referred to, by New York magazine is Bill Clinton's bag carrier body man fix and all purpose gatekeeper then also appears several times in the flight logs of Epstein's private jet. Epstein was also associated with both Bill Richardson former ambassador to the UN and former secretary of energy under Clinton and Larry, Summers Secretary of the Treasury. Under Clinton both Richardson and Summers sit on the advisory board of controversial energy company Genie Energy alongside CIA Director Under Clinton James Woolsey Roy. Cohn associated media mogul, Rupert Murdoch. Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt, and Lord Jacob. Rothschild Genie Energy is controversial primarily for its exclusive rights to drill in the israeli-occupied Golan Heights Bill Richards, and also has ties to Lynn Forester de Rothschild. As she was on the Secretary of Energy's advisory board while Richardson was Secretary of Energy Bill Richardson appears to be among the Clinton era officials closest to Jeffrey Epstein having personally visited Epstein's New Mexico ranch and been the recipient of Epstein. Donate of fifty thousand dollars to his two, thousand, two and two thousand, six gubernatorial campaigns Richardson gave epsteins donation in two thousand. Six to charity after allegations against Epstein, were made public Richardson was also accused in recently released court documents of engaging in sex with epsteins underage victims, an allegation that he has denied the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, the Post Mortem, and nineteen. Ninety Danny Casale began his fateful one year investigation of the octopus, an investigation, the played no small role in his untimely death shortly after. He was found lifeless in a hotel bathtub. Casale friend Lynn Knowles was threatened and told the following. What Danny Casale was investigating is a business anyone who asks too many questions will end up dead nearly thirty years later that same octopus and its business remains with us and has become ever more wrapped around the levers of power particularly in the worlds of government. Finance. And Intelligence This meant Pres- investigative series has endeavoured to show the nature of this network and how the world of the octopus is the same world in which Jeffrey Epstein and his predecessors, Craig Spence Edwin Wilson and Roy Cohn among them operated and profited. It is a world where all that matters is the constant drive to accumulate evermore wealth endeavor more power and to. Keep the racket going of all costs while this network has long been able to ensure its success through the use of sexual blackmail often acquired by the unconscionable exploitation of children. It has also been a driving force behind many other ills that plague our world and it goes far beyond human and child trafficking indeed many of the figures in the same sorted web have. Played a major role in the illicit drug and weapons trades the expansion of for profit prisons and the endless wars that have claimed an untold number of lives across the world, all the while enriching many of these same individuals there is no denying that such a network too big to fail yet fail it must otherwise this decades-long cycle of abuse murder and fraud will. Continue unabated, destroying and taking even more lives in the process though this report marks the end of impresses series on Jeffrey Epstein and the network of which he was part. This is not the end of men presses work on the case several spinoffs investigating the real reasons why Epstein was arrested in July, his connections to money laundering and the intelligence black budget and his. Networks connections to child trafficking and other countries particularly, the UK are already in the works and will appear in mint press over the next few weeks our thoughts we get it. It is hard to believe that something like this could have been going on for so long right under our noses, but it is all true. There is even more yet to come therein Toda.

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"Here's some breaking news. Podcasts are on spotify. Now you can get your favorite shows like this one right in the podcast section of your spotify app. All the the best news podcasts all in one place. Listen free on spotify nature wall street banks given congressional committees investigating president trump thousands of pages of documents so a lot of very different financial information being handed over and bond yields fall prompting opting big swings in the market. Everyone is quite unsure what to expect because everything is so hard to read. Let's billionaire. Leslie wexner says jeff seen misappropriated appropriated sums of money from him. This is what's news from the wall street journal. I'm kim get allston. Let's get started now before we take a look at what documents major wall street banks are turning over to congressional investigators probing president trump's financial dealings. Here's what you missed. I president trump met with victims of mass shootings in dayton ohio and el paso texas yesterday. The trip was designed to offer comfort. During a moment of national national mourning. They have done an incredible job both places just incredible and the enthusiasm the love the respect and also the let me let's see if we can get something and republicans want to do democrats want to have her visits were met with protests in both cities. They're also fights with democrats pat's angered by his rhetoric and skeptical of his pledge to tackle gun violence. Here's democratic presidential candidate baidoa work addressing a protest in el paso. We live in a country where we have a president who demonize his communities like this one who vilifies immigrants who says that those from mexico are rapists. This criminals and warns of invasions and infestations democrats are continuing to press president trump to throw his support behind gun control legislation solution separately universal pictures said it would halt marketing for its movie the hunt in the wake of the two mass shootings. The movie depicts a divided nation. We're heavily armed. Elites hunt down and kill others for sport and leslie wexner. The billionaire behind victoria's secret said that his former money manager jeffrey free epstein misappropriated more than forty six million dollars of his fortune. He disclosed the issue in a letter to his foundation on wednesday. Mr wexner sner wrote that the missing funds were uncovered after he decided in two thousand seven to suffer ties with mr epstein. Mr began the separation process after allegations against mr epstein surface involving sexual abuse of underage girls. A lawyer for mr epstein couldn't be reached for comment. A spokesman for mr wexner declined to comment on whether mr wexner and reported the matter to authorities now our main story story this morning. It's a look at what financial documents big wall street banks have turned over to congressional investigators probing president trump's dealings thousands of pages documents have been turned over by the likes of citigroup and deutsche bank according to people familiar with the investigations to find out more charlie turner has been speaking to jean eagle awesome gene congressional committees controlled by democrats have subpoenaed documents for major wall street banks related to russians who may have had dealings with president trump up his family or his business new york state investigators have also made requests regarding mr trump's business and you remind us what information the house intelligence and judiciary committees are looking for and what new york state investigators are seeking and all these documents show so the congressional committees. They're focusing partly on these russians looking for any connections between russian business people and the president and his business the separately going to the bank store shirt and capital one looking for information a real wide range of information on president trump's personal finances his family's finances his business in the lawsuits suits blocking seeking to block subpoenas de complaining that they're looking for even every debit card transaction for groceries. It's very very wide ranging subpoenas at the same time we have the new york state attorney general and she's going to georgia for information on three specific loans and another loan that didn't go goes through and also to investor's bank for mortgage related to one of president trump's properties in new york so a lot of very different financial information lot of records being handed over at the moment some questions here. What do we know so far which banks have responded and to what degree degree have they cooperated. What we know is that a lot of the major wall street banks have handed over thousands of documents to congressional investigators news and also there's a lot of documents have gone to the new york state attorney general from the two banks who've been subpoenaed there so what's happening is the president has gone to court to fight to the subpoenas which are ones that are particularly related to his personal finances his family's finances and they're in court did a very intrusive and these legal battles going on away for appeals courts to rule on those but while what's happening what we're reporting is a lot of information relates to the president that's being handed over maxine waters democrat from california and and chairperson of one of the committees has said that they've received a lot yes. She says she's got. They've got a lot from the banks that going through it now now what they've got. They've asked the these banks. This is all a major street firms for information on russian oligarchs business people who have been linked to president trump in one way or another another so they're essentially looking at these russians and seeing if they can see any information if a financial trail from the russian business people people to the president or his family or business in some way now. We don't know what's in those documents. We don't know if they're gonna find anything but that that's a route route that taking now president trump hasn't he argued that these subpoenas are entirely political. President trump has been cold the the congressional subpoenas as as you say are politically motivated their intrusive. He's saying the lawmakers are going beyond the powers. I have because these are investigations. Were really just fishing. She expeditions looking for information does not directly connected to legislation the dilemma. He has is the new york state attorney. General can really ask ask for any information related investigation so he can't go to court and try and block the demands for information that the new state's attorney general has made and in fact. We're reporting that the banks are complying with the subpoenas an are handing over the documents only different loans you can find genes full report with rebecca davis o'brien and john yvonne hughes up on w._s._j. Dot com here's some breaking news. Podcasts are on spotify. Now you can get your favorite shows like this one right in the podcast section of your spotify app all the best news podcasts all in one place. Listen free on spotify on to markets china set a daily anchor for trading in its currency at its weakest level since two thousand eight today this followed a tumultuous this day on wall street prompted by a fall in bond yields kneeled spall when prices rise which is a sign that investor demand for safe assets like bonds is increasing our markets markets reporter. Anna isaac has more well. It's as you say been atrocious few days for markets. Now this this fixing that's been carried out by china to to try and keep deeper keep a handle on how the currency will move in today's trading and it doesn't really change the overall narrative for markets that started at the very beginning of this week which which has caused these these massive fluctuations sort of snap back to volatility that we're seeing now. I'm a nowhere as you rightly say. It's more more clear to read than in u._s. Treasuries he's <hes> we saw a whole bunch of the two year three ten year dirty an hit fifty two week lows in trading yesterday. That's taking a snap snap shot at the end of the u._s. Trading day anna says that while some investors are looking for safety others now smell opportunity. There's also a sense to which opportunity strikes yikes when volatility returns we have had <hes> a bull market for a long time inequities but for a lot of currency traders for a lot of other asset class traders is there's been a sense too which everything's been very calm since the financial crisis. That's mental of asset classes have made it very hard. Generate a return you know people with low yields fields on <hes> government bonds or even negative yields on government bonds. Gonna find it very hard to actually make any money out of that so what people now will be moving to do. Invest as saying they're trying to do is turn workout who can win this volatility. How can they start looking at the volatility. Index is a sort of a guide to where they can take opportunities <music> and now the scan. Here's what else for paying attention today. Kraft heinz is set to report its. It's earnings today before market open. It's the first from the company after revealed earlier this year that the s._e._c. was probing accounting practices at one of its divisions from conseco heather had in has more the last. We've actually heard from them. Was there twenty eighteen full year filing which they made three months late finally in june june which showed some of these accounting changes about two hundred eight million dollars and accounting changes that they had to <hes> account for across multiple years so this is the first time going forward that they've reported earnings sent and so we'll have both the first and second quarter i believe for the company which they are very laid on and we really don't know i mean from all the analysts reports i've read. It looks like it's going to be difficult for them. I mean we're going to be comparing. Herrings difficult years for them. <hes> since all these changes child expect a difficult report will probably the stock to fall well also be paying attention to uber which reports puts its earnings after market close yesterday after the bell rival lift raised its revenue outlook for the rest of the year as it gained more riders lift also said it planned to lose less money this year than expected shares in the company surged more than eleven percent in after hours trading finally. Here's an interesting one for you. The maker of of arizona ice tea has reached a licensing agreement with dixie brands to get into the weed infused gumy's and drinks business plans for the arizona liner during the early stages but we report they're likely to start with vape pens and gumy's followed by a variety of beverages that could include tea lemonade soda coffee or seltzer. One of our readers wrote in. 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How Jeffrey Epstein Made His Money

The Journal.

19:49 min | 2 years ago

How Jeffrey Epstein Made His Money

"This episode of the Journal is brought to you by Lincoln jobs linked in uses their knowledge of people's soft skills and hard skills to match your job listing to the most relevant qualified candidates to get fifty dollars off your first job post go to Lincoln Dot Com slash the journal terms and conditions apply earlier this month New York financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was returning to the U._S. from Paris on his private jet when he was arrested arrested the Indictment Claims Epstein higher tin girls to give him massages at his mansions in Manhattan and Palm Beach allegedly assaulting them in civil lawsuits. Women have said Epstein targeted girls who were particularly vulnerable including ones who needed money and Epstein has a lot of money he owns six homes including an entire island in the Caribbean and a house on another island near his private island and some of his accusers say they were flown around and his private planes but the source of his fortune which F. Seen told the court is more than five hundred million dollars has long been a mystery. No one's quite figured out even thou how how Jeffrey Epstein made his money. There's evidence on how this man amassed this wealth indicate on influential today on the show where did epsteins money come from welcome to the jerk our show about money business and power. I'm Ryan Knutson and I'm Kate Limbaugh. It's Friday July twenty six. Why is it such a mystery how he made his money well? It's a vast some right. It's not like he's worth twenty million dollars or fifty million dollars which is like a lot of money but not like a regis. Ken Brown Runs Financial Investigations for the Wall Street Journal but being with five hundred million on Moore is pretty rare and he didn't work for a big bank. He didn't run a hedge fund. He didn't start a tech company like that's how you make half a billion dollars. He didn't do any of that stuff so it is a mystery and obviously the guy has been accused of horrible things so then they say well he must have made this money in some weird dodgy way we would just like you know with the Wall Street Journal and we look at money and we were curious. How did this guy make his money so oh we dug into epsteins finances and how he made his money Epstein didn't start out as a millionaire? Let's talk about his background. Where did he come from came from Coney Island which is a place in New York City? It has a roller coaster in a boardwalk but it also is a working class town down by the water he dropped out of college and his first job was teaching math at Dalton. which is an elite private school in New York? The Dawn story is the man makes connections through one of the students ended of meeting Allen Ace Greenberg Wall Street legend who was the C._E._o.. Of Bear Stearns Guy who build up this company and as Greenberg felt like this young guy was so smart they should hire and bear stearns has a history of hiring smart young people who essentially Wanna be rich <hes> they were the place that you went if you didn't go to Harvard and you want to work on Wall Street and so it was a perfect place Epstein was hired at bear stearns in nineteen seventy six and it doesn't take long for evidence to merge inside bear stearns that Jeffrey Epstein lied on his resume and this was the resume that he used to get hired adult and Um and what happened is he claimed that he went to Stanford University and he didn't the executives at Bear Stearns Confronted Jeffrey Epstein instead your your resumes false and he came back to them and said sorry I know he admitted it. He said <hes> I needed to you have a college degree to get this teaching job and so I- falsified my resume the folks at bear stearns said well he's being honest with us and we will give him a second chance he ended up doing fantastic bear stearns earns. He was an upcoming star he did by many accounts no his stuff and a lot of it was tax stuff. A lot of it was how to do a complicated thing that would cut your taxes a lot and save you a lot of money so people liked him so he rose rose to become a limited partner in four years and a year after that he was fired whoa what happened there so he was accused of allocating shares in I._P._O.'s stock offerings for companies to someone. On who people thought was his girlfriend. That's no those shares should go to clients of the firm. There shouldn't be conflicts there <hes> also there were alleged inaccuracies in his brokerage registration and some expense report infractions so even though he got fired from bear stearns his time at that investment bank sort of served as the launching pad for his career. What would you say was the kind of take away from his time? At bear stearns well the most memorable thing that someone told us when we were reporting this was they said and this is a quote. The bear period got him in touch with big money. It was his first taste. He came to Wall Street. He had never been in that world. He was around people for whom making millions of dollars and that's the thing that that is the lasting impact of his time at bear stearns and so after bear stearns in one thousand nine hundred two he started his own firm J Epstein and company any and what did that firm do the firm did everything it was a wealth management firm. It was like a one stop shop in some ways. It was more classically like these private bankers at these old line private banks. You know they do your investing. They they deal with your taxes but they would you know help your near dwell son get into a boarding school to get him straightened out or whatever they would do. They would like at your service and Epstein did all anything you needed J. Epstein and company would do and who were his clients. If you could characterize them billionaires he connected with very very rich people he was great at making them feel like he could do everything for them and do it great make them a lot of money and the the biggest example in the one that changed his life was less wexner. Leslie Wexner is one of the green retail geniuses of you know the last few decades he founded this company L. Brands which previously was the limited and that owned at different times Victoria Secret Abercrombie and Fitch Lane Bryant Express these worthy sort of hot mall stores during the periods when malls else were hot they met in the eighties around the time when Waxman businesses were really taking off so the dream client for private banker or a wealth manager is someone who's rich because I want to start out with someone who's rich booze wealth grows exponentially and that's what happened wexner. I mean Epstein hit him at exactly the time when these mall concepts were taking off and so W- xmas wealth rose rose to peak of about eight billion dollars and what it Epstein do for Wexner. What was the business that he did for him? He did everything I mean. He did <hes> investing for him. He did his taxes. He literally wrote the prenuptial agreement. When wexner married his wife we found the documents in Ohio? Epstein had power of attorney over wexner. 's finances like power between like you get for like you know <hes> an old relative with dementia or something I mean he had that much power. He could write checks. He was on his charities. He helped wexner develop. This real estate project <hes> in north of Columbus Ohio building houses and and Epstein ended up living in one of them he lived there he ball on. He bought a house in in Ohio. Jeffrey Epstein had no connection to Ohio and yet he was like buying a house there to live there. These these two men were very close. Wexner owned a bunch of stock in unlimited and Epstein managed that I've seen was in charge. I mean we had someone who said he had absolute. Control over wexner is wealth. That's a quote from your reporting yeah someone who knows wexner and was involved you know people we talked to say Epstein UNMADE upwards of two hundred million dollars just from working with Wexner so what stands out to you in the relationship between Epstein and Wexner well you know the closeness and the the power that that <hes> Epstein had over all of Wexner is money <hes> and the timing. I mean you like I said He. It's it's a dream situation for someone like that to connect with someone who who will give them all this power and the opportunity to earn all these fees and all this money just at a time when their wealth was exploding. I mean it would be like meeting. Mark Zuckerberg three years after facebook was founded and and you know two years before the I._P._O.. Or what is this an unusual. What Epstein did with wexner money or is that kind of what private bankers do no? This is beyond normal the normal. Is You know you do taxes. Than you do investing and all that stuff being on their charities basically taking over everything is unusual I mean this is a pattern very close unusually close to his <music> clients and he either charm them or for them valuable services that made it worthwhile for them that is how he operated to be clear Wall Street Journal reporting has not connected connected epsteins work with Wexner to his alleged sex trafficking crimes after epsteins recent arrest wexner wrote a company wide email to L. brands employees. He said he was quote. Never aware of epsteins alleged criminal criminal behavior and he said he had severed all ties with his former money manager nearly twelve years ago but over the course of epsteins career his close relationship with wexner helped him attract more business other billionaires and his roster of high profile clients soon caught the eye of top Wall Street banks in the late nineteen nineties the head of J._p.. Morgan's private bank set up a meeting with Epstein and Epstein the quintessential middleman use that meeting to his advantage. He connected J._p.. Morgan with a man named Glenn Dubin who ran a hedge fund called High Bridge and by making that connection Epstein would get a seat at the table for one of the biggest hedge fund deals on record J.. P. Morgan was trying to ramp up. It's private bank and this was a time when hedge funds were really hot. When you had a private bank one of the values that you offered to your clients was I can get into this hot hedge fund and Hedge funds now don't have that kind of shine but then they did and this was a hot hedge fund and so <hes> J. P. Morgan starts to poor client money into high bridge and hybrid performs great so everybody's happy? It's a terrific introduction J._p.. Morgan so happy they buy control of High Bridge in two thousand four for about a billion dollars when J. P.. Morgan bought high bridge. Did Epstein make money off of that deal yes so Epstein gets cut. We've found is there was a roughly fifteen million dollars. This is a big number and <hes> people inside hybrids looked around in the like. Why is he getting so much money but this was one of the biggest hedge fund deals at the time and J._p.? Morgan was on one inside of the table buying this hedge fund and hybrids was represented by Goldman Sachs and by Jeffrey Epstein. It just shows how amazing this guy worked himself into the highest levels of wealth and Wall Street power. I mean here's one of the biggest hedge fund deals of all time with Goldman Sachs J. P. Morgan and Jeffrey Epstein so you look at. How did he make his wealth well? This is how he made his wealth. He was in the middle of deals and transactions and relationships with some some of the biggest financial institutions. Some of the richest people in the world not long after that Hedge Fund deal federal investigators began looking into claims that Epstein was sexually abusing underage girls claims the went back as far as two thousand in one and in two thousand seven after using his money to hire a high powered legal team F- seen reached a deal with federal prosecutors he later pleaded guilty to to charges of sexual crimes one involving miners and he served thirteen months in in jail so some people cut him off wexner cut him off. It took a long time to disentangle epsteins involvement with the wexner family it it was just very complicated and it took time but he he cut him off J._P.. Morgan cut him off later on the do bins had been involved with him after the guilty plea and they said they thought he'd rehabilitated himself and now they say they're horrified what they've heard about these new allegations J._p.. Morgan declined comment and the former head of J._p.. Morgan's private bank said he hasn't had contact with Epstein in several years also epsteins lawyers didn't respond to requests for comment last week at his bail. Hearing Epstein submitted a document listing his wealth at more than five hundred fifty million dollars prosecutors said the document was notable for what it did not include as for what it did it had no disclosures of art or a foreign accounts but but while he may have made money from other activities most of his wealth appears to have come from a small number of super rich clients the money plays such an important role in this allegedly dark life he led and so we wanted to understand. The money and when you really dig into it and you know we did he made the money in pretty legitimate ways right the private jets the big houses being able to bring young women who wanted to be actresses says and models into this opulent mansion. That's the potential connection between the two earlier this week Epstein was moved to a suicide watch unit after he was found unconscious in his cell among the many questions that that are still out there about Epstein one is after he was cut off from J. P. Morgan and Wexner. What did he do with his money? That's after the break. This episode of the Journal is brought to you by linked in jobs according to Lincoln every two seconds the site receives thirty five job applications so if you're looking to hire for your business linked in can help by putting your job in front of the most qualified candidates and that's based on both hard skills and soft skills things like collaboration work ethic in adaptability to get fifty dollars off your first job post go to Lincoln Dot Com slash the journal again that's linked in dot com slash journal terms and conditions apply welcome back in the years after epsteins child prostitution conviction a bank that Epstein Headlong worked with J.. P. Morgan dropped him as a client enclosed his accounts and around that time according to Wall Street Journal Reporting Epstein started working more closely with another bank. Germany's biggest Deutsche Bank Georgia Bank played a key role in Mr Obscene financial dealings in recent years. There were dozens of accounts at Deutsche Bank affiliated with him. The accounts helped Mister Casino move millions of dollars in cash securities around over the course of several years. That's reporter Jenny Strasbourg. She covers European Finance and she's been reporting on Deutsche Bank. The Epstein situation and is a new headache for a bank that seen more than <unk> fair share of problems deutchebanks reputation has taken several hits recently over how well the bank vets its clients and their activity regulators and investigators are looking looking into its role in several matters so there are a number of money laundering probes including in the U._S. and there are questions about how the bank is handled some scandals in Europe around money laundering. The German bank is also cooperating in a congressional investigation into president trump's ties to the bank congressional committees have subpoenaed the Bank for documents related to president trump and others close to him. Those subpoenas are being challenged by the president and his lawyers epsteins association with the Bank could cause more headaches this week. Jenny reported that late last last year at least one Deutsche Bank employees flagged epsteins account as a potential concern concerns were raised to supervisors. You know over questions of like where these money flows going. What do we know Oh and also reputation really George Banks affiliation with a client featured in articles like these? Let's talk about that. A lawyer for Epstein declined to comment about epsteins connections to the bank Deutsche Bank didn't quantify ABC's holdings and said it is still reviewing the scope of any business it had with Epstein by the end of June. The bank had completely severed ties with Epstein amid these ongoing issues deutchebanks going going through seismic changes. It's shrinking it's investment banking arm top executives have left and earlier this month. The bank announced it would eliminate eighteen thousand jobs. It's a real dialing back of the banks ambitions globally Lee which have been a couple of decades in the making door Topeka's really had a retreating to the European German bank that it was before it became the Big Global Investment Bank that we know today. That's all today Friday July Twenty six journal is a co production of Gimblett and the Wall Street Journal re are your hosts. I'm Ryan Knutson and I'm kate. Linebaugh were produced by Ricky Novitsky Sarah Platt and will Aruban Pia Gut Carey is our senior producer are supervising producer is anti rose dresser. Our engineer is Griffin Tanner and Gerard Coal. Is Our executive producer or music. This week comes from Hairy Shaw and Bobby Ward from Kim Louis Special.

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Update: Following the Money | 7

The Mysterious Mr. Epstein

33:03 min | 1 year ago

Update: Following the Money | 7

"From wondering. I'm Lindsey Graham the host of American scandal and this is the mysterious Mr Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein's death. Last summer left behind more questions than answers questions about the scale of his sex trafficking operation about his network of enablers questions about his circle of friends and the true origins of his wealth. We did our best to provide answers in this series but since then new information has come to light in November Prince Andrew on television tried to explain away his relationship with Epstein. Do I regret the fact? The he has quite obviously conducted himself in a manner unbecoming. Yes and the counting. He was a sex offender. Yeah I'm sorry I'm being polite of in the sense that he was a success. Andrew later had to step back from his royal duties and has reportedly been avoiding. Fbi investigators earlier this year. Les Wexner the billionaire founder of L. Brands and epsteins only known client resigned as CEO and news outlets continued to uncover new details about Epstein's murky finances. Today I talk with Joe Nocera Some of these developments. Joe is a Bloomberg opinion columnists and a legendary business reporter. He's also the host and reporter of the wondering Bloomberg podcast. The shrink next door Joe has written about Epstein Murky Finances and in our conversation we try as best we can to follow the money and understand exactly how Epstein operated Jonas era. Thank you for joining me today. Thanks for having me. Let me ask you one question about your pursuit of this case. When did Epstein come on your radar? And how did you get interested in my wife? Friends Small Public Relations Firm. You may have heard her in the strength next door. Her name is dawn. She has been representing a number of these victims for quite a long time over two years. So I've had. This is my radar for quite a while. The deal is struck was that I won't Write anything about the victims because that would be a conflict but because I'm a financial journalist and because the finances are not really what My Wife's involved with that I would write about the finances are when I could when he was arrested. I just I just decided to take cl- as close a look as I could in. What kind of documents were available and what I could learn from just looking at documents and what I discovered was that the documents raise more questions and answers as they like to say but they were really super interesting questions and they. They're questions that really kind of lead you to think you know what is going on here. What's what is he doing. Who's doing it with? And that's why I started writing about this and that's why the finances have been so important to the way I've been reporting and thinking about this. I mean I do feel like if you crack the finances. Yo cracked the case. Will they do tell you to follow the money? Yes yeah follow the money and I just WanNa say that that the person who's really been out front and following the money on this case as been Mad Goldstein at the New York. Times and a lot of the work that he has done has really added to the store of Knowledge About Epstein and his finances so Jeffrey Epstein was a wealthy man and he had relationships with many other wealthy powerful men. What do you think kept them in his orbit for so long well? The benign explanation. Is that in some cases. He made large philanthropic donations to causes. They cared about that. He offered tax advice that he was fun to be around that he was intelligent. He would he knew a lot of scientists Nobel laureates and so on and he would often set up. Dinners with I you know a couple of the Nobel laureates and some money people and and So on and so forth I obviously. There's less benign explanation. Which is that in the case of some of them perhaps they were indulging in the he was lending them his sex slaves. is underage sex slaves. We don't know that for sure at this point but some of his finances seem hard to explain in any other fashion. Well it's Let's dig into epsteins finances before he died. He gave a list of assets to a court in New York was disclosed not much There were two basic things disclosed. The first is that he had two buckets of money. According to the asset city turned into the court Was three hundred. Seventy nine million dollars in cash and investments and the other was six properties. Yes he had six properties of valued at one hundred eighty one million dollars so the total came to about five hundred sixty million dollars so you know he was obviously not a billionaire but he was still pretty darn wealthy. Why do you suppose was missing from these disclosures? The core problem with understanding. Jeffrey Epstein's finances is that so little of it is on paper. There's very few federal disclosures. He had charities where he never a filed anything with the federal government. I he had a company in the Virgin Islands. Where every year he would file a two page document that basically just listed its assets and its income and a couple of other Bear statistics that really told you very little so when you see something like a five hundred fifty nine million dollar net worth. You don't know for sure whether that's really what he had. Or whether he had money Hidden away here and there in other places for instance. The New York Times pointed out after he died that somehow mysteriously twelve million dollars was transferred from his company financial. Trust to a bank that he owned in the Virgin Islands. That had pretty much never used and nobody knows why that money was there why it was transferred what it was doing there. And so. That's the kind of mystery that Jeffrey Epstein finances pose. You think we'll ever get a full accounting of these holdings and and even if Moore does pop up What can be done with it first of all. I do believe that we'll get a full accounting. I mean both the US federal government and the Virgin Islands where he did so much. If any of financial transactions they have the ability to see what every deposit was whatever. Withdrawal was in a way that we can't see right now. That's number one number two there may well be court documents that are currently under seal. That may help unveil his assets but then to answer your other question. What happens if you find more money? Well the answer is it goes into the larger pot of his assets which ultimately will be paid out. I'm pretty sure to the victims of his crimes. Let's talk about his his business in the Virgin Islands and how anyone can Amass that much wealth and yet hide it so well How was he hiding it? And a wire the Virgin Islands in particular hotspot for opaque transactions. Well THE VIRGIN. Islands isn't like some other places like the Canary Islands. It's a the Bahamas it's not a place that's really well known for hiding money. He lived in the Virgin Islands because he bought you know he bought an island. He bought his own island there. It was a place where he could do. Things in secret He brought his underage girls there. He liked living there as well. So so that's point. A. Point B. Is You know because he was probably the richest man in the Virgin Islands contributions for this to the government to various charities and then return. He would get favors they. They gave him a bank charter without really asking them much of anything he was able to. You Know Shield much of what he did from the Securities and Exchange Commission in any other federal entity in the United States. That might have raised. A Red Flag was staying with. Epstein his wealth. I wonder if you could help me unpack some the claims that Epstein himself made about what exactly. He did to make his millions. He said he was a wealth adviser who only took on billionaires But that that seems dubious yes. It's ludicrous what he said was the minimum amount. You had to deposit with him to have him do business with you was a billion dollars which is absurd His prime client they one client. Everybody knows about was Leslie Wexner. Who was the WHO's the? Ceo of the company that owns. Victoria's secret They had a long term relationship Very close he also gave some kind of advice to Leon Black Who is one of the most important private equity investors in the United States and had a definitely a billionaire much wealthier than less Westerner and a few others Hedge Fund guys and a few others. Now we do know what he did for. Wexner in the case of everybody else. We really don't know and I'll give you a good example in twenty thirteen Leon black made a contribution to foundation that Epstein had opened up for ten million dollars and it's the only contribution that foundation ever received in its entire existence. What was it for so obviously on black is saying you know there's nothing on toward here nothing underhanded He's saying that It was tax advice. That he got from Jeffrey Epstein that they had a dispute over the fee and that they decided to settle the matter by having black. Give a gift ten million dollars to the charity that Way Epstein guests advantage of the ten million dollars and Leon black gets taken off his taxes. Does Leon Black really need tax advice from Jeffrey Epstein? It's hard to imagine does FDA an have the kind of tax expert teas that would be useful to a sophisticated billionaire investor likely on black. That's hard to imagine too so we're left with the mystery. What was the ten million dollars for and again and again and again with Epstein you you you bump up against the same question. What was the money for? Was that ten million dollars put to use by this charity. Not In any significant way. Hi I'm Lindsey Graham. The host of wondering show American scandal. We bring to life of the biggest controversies in. Us History Presidential Lies Environmental Disasters Corporate Fraud. In our new series launching March third. We look at a trial that changed America. It's the story of standup comedian. Lenny Bruce who faced obscenity charges but fought them relentlessly to guarantee freedom of speech to listen to this and other great series. Subscribe now to American scandal from wondering so you've written and just mentioned that there's little evidence to suggest that he actually was a money manager yet clearly. He was making money somehow. Was He really up. To in your estimation last year The New York Times was able to obtain some documents from the Virgin Islands. Backley add to suit against them and the most interesting part of those documents were these annual. It's like a two page annual report about his company in the Virgin Islands which was called the Financial Trust Company. And what you see is the accumulation of money in this in this company and you also see how much pulling out for himself okay. So for instance in one thousand nine hundred ninety listen net income of forty three million dollars in two thousand seventy two million dollars in two thousand one forty six million dollars in fact now he's calling in fee income fifty nine million fifty three million thirty million sixty five million on then we get to two thousand eight when he's in prison fee income drops to one hundred thousand dollars in two thousand eight and two thousand nine and two thousand ten and eleven but then in two thousand twelve. The fee income starts to go up again twelve point two million yen. He changes the name of the company to Southern. Trust company fee income fifty one million two thousand fourteen seventy million two thousand fifteen fifty five million on and on and on while this is going on. The assets are accumulating peaks at one point in two thousand and five to five hundred nine million dollars and even at the end at somewhere around three hundred and fifty million dollars. So there's there's a lot of money in this company which is his main company but the question you have and it's not answered is who is pay him the fees who's paying him the forty three million the seventy two million the forty six million of fifty nine million. Who's paying that? If you knew the answer to that you could find out the answer that you would crack the case you would know what Epstein was doing and why theoretically there should be you know the equal and opposite annual reports somewhere else that shows these fees being charged against companies or individuals. Why is it so hard to track down? Who paid him well? Imagine that you're somebody who paid them. Are you gonNA put your hand up and say I did it? You know it was all done. In a very secretive way. Epstein was doing his best to hide their names and they didn't want their names out there. Whoever they were and yet clearly as secretive as it was money was being made so why the lying and concealing white was he really doing to make his millions. The reigning theory allow some of the people who really Have looked into this doubt. It is that it was a kind of form of discreet blackmail that the people who are paying the fees were paying it because they were getting access to his sex slaves and you know they basically were having sex with underage girls and that you know in return. They were paying him millions of dollars. People like Matt Goldstein. At The New York Times has really dug into this a lot. Although he doesn't have a better theory you know he. He finds that a little bit implausible. The reason I find it more plausible was just because he wasn't authorized to buy and sell securities. He wasn't authorized to give financial advice. I mean you know all the stuff that you would expect a financial advisor or a tax advisor any of those sorts of things. He couldn't he didn't do any of that. In some cases he is obvious that he made money from his own investments. But it's also obvious that the bulk of his money came from these fees. Well let's talk about how obscene came to be on a financial scene. To begin with. He started in the eighties but even then this was not a world. He was accustomed to. He was a kid from Brooklyn. He didn't even Finish College. But somehow he managed to charm way into bear stearns and then he struck out on his own and allegedly made a fortune. What was he like on Wall Street? He must have made an impression because he was basically a prep school teacher. Who was brought to the attention of ace? Greenberg the Ceo of bear stearns and bear stearns hired him so he obviously must have made some kind of an impression but he didn't stay at bear stearns all that long he Branched out started his own company. He had a partner who eventually went to jail but the key to his Rise and success was being introduced to Leslie Wexner. I mean that's that's where it really starts other people around. Wexner were mystified that. He was so enamored of Jeffrey Epstein and yet Wexner BEGAN TO EXCLUDE PEOPLE FROM HIS INNER CIRCLE. Who objected publicly to Epstein being a part of that inner circle so he almost made Epstein kind of a proxy for himself in certain ways so one one good example of this is wexner was sort of transforming. This little town in Ohio called New Albany to be kind of a large gated community for lack of a better word. And with all these different houses that would be built and so on and Epstein became the man his point man on this project You know hiring and firing the contract is sitting in all the meetings Basically being wexner voice eyes and ears so then He. When you look at the documents you know. Wexner and the limited as it was then called The L. L. Brands as it's now called Which runs Victoria's secrets they have to? File are regularly with the Federal Government. And what you see is up until two thousand seven you see that. Many of the the charitable trusts or the trust for his children are either in epsteins name or they are both and Les Wexner and Epsteins Name and you often see stock being transferred into those trusts. And then the next time you look at a filing that money is gone. So was this a way to pay Epstein. I don't know but it's it's a plausible scenario now. Then wexner says that he broke off with Epstein thousand. But we don't really know if that's true or not. Let's stick with Wexner a little bit he seems to have given Epstein incredible level of Access and control at one point. He even signed away. Power of attorney Do you have any sense of what compelled him to seed so much control to Epstein? No I don't nobody does it's as if Epstein were a cult leader and wexner was the only person in his cult. That's really what it felt like. It was like handing over the keys to the kingdom. They bought a house in Manhattan together. Where I'm pretty sure that Leslie. Wexner paid all the the money and you know ultimately as where Epstein lived and Epstein. Also you know He. He pretended to be a Somebody who could hire Victoria's secret models which is a line that he used on any number of women. No matter how outrageous thing Epstein would do wexner would not turn his back on him and instead would turn is back on other people who said look. You know. Epstein shouldn't be doing this. You shouldn't be pretending to be. Victoria's secret scout but Les Wexner just wouldn't hear of it. I think this is one of the most fascinating but infuriating aspects of this story that we just don't know how Epstein pulled all of this off. He's obviously a very charming conniving person. He he gives financial advice without the credentials needed. He gives tax advice without the credentials needed. He gives charitable advice without filing the proper forms with the government. He apparently is the contractor on a large scale real estate development without having any experience at all what is it about Epstein. That could possibly get him this far with so little real experience. You pretty much Pretty much nailed it again. Let me say what is it that he got in trouble for you know. Having sex with with underage girls Rape Sexual harassment sexual assault. That's what he did three times a day. And so the idea that he would be separating out financial and tax advice from giving rich guys access to fifteen year. Old Girls seems implausible to me. It seems far more likely. It's all part of the same scam. I mean nobody has a better explanation. That's the issue. Nobody has a better explanation. Maybe two years from now know a lot more than we do now but right now. It's hard to envision any other scenario tie David Brown the host of wondering show business wars. We go deep in some of the biggest corporate rivalries of all time. Well in our latest series. We're following a battle. That's been brewing. For decades between to Java giants starbucks and Dunkin in this bitter rivalry the every man brand founded by an eighth grade. Drought has to take on the elite behemoth to dominate a global market. Worth more than one hundred billion dollars to listen to starbucks versus Dunkin and other great series subscribe now. Business Wars from wondering. Let's investigate just a little bit another side of Epstein Personality You mentioned that for Les Wexner. He was almost a cult leader but Epstein himself also had some very strange cultish predilections and pursuits. You mentioned his company Southern Trust and that sounds like a financial firm but what it actually did was analyzed customers. Dna to see if they had cancer markers. Or what? That's what it purported to do. What can you tell us about this enterprise nothing nothing? There's no evidence that they ever did anything like that. When you look at the documents I mean what customers. There are no clients there no customers. There's nobody showing up in the Virgin Islands to have their DNA tested. It's absurd and when you look at the documents the documents about income and fees and money and assets. It's the same format when it was financial trust and supposedly financial company as Southern Trust and supposedly a DNA company. He did have grandiose notions along these lines about doing things algorithm cly. The point is he did have grandiose ideas but there's no evidence that he ever actually executed on any of them it does seem though that the DNA business even if it was Wishful thinking best or just a a complete cover does fit in with epsteins. Obsession with with immortality. The project he funded harbored even his plan to impregnate women at his Santa Fe ranch to I don't know what create a Epstein Super Race. Do you know anything more about his this more bizarre side of a very bizarre man. No I don't Truth is that real scientists who sat around him thought he was a charlatan. They just didn't they didn't buy his stick at all Scientists who got a lot of money from of course Always said Nice things him But this side of him which has come out since his death was was not all particularly well known by the by the larger public During his life in January Les Wexner stepped down as the CEO of L. Brands. What was the fallout here? I it's been devastating for wexner. There are two things happening here. The first is that Even without all of this. The Victoria's secret brand and the Victoria's secret Style of lingerie has been going out of fashion and so sales are down. The stock is down. The company is hurting And Les Wexner you know supposedly magical touch with fashion and and Trans seems to have failed him. So that's a problem right there. So then you compound the problem with this inexplicable relationship. He has with a criminal And he's in the papers you know every day because of his association with Jeffrey Epstein. And it's been very very damaging they're also things that haven't really even come out yet for instance you know. It was known among the women Who spent time you know as one of these victims that if you went to the Virgin Islands you would be handed. Victoria's secret lingerie and Told to take your clothes off. And where the lingerie all weekend? So the Victoria's secrets. It's not over for Victoria. Secret in terms of its relationship with Epstein was wexner reputation prior as a person a businessman This certainly has taken a toll and you said he had a golden touch reputation for doing things. Well right I mean. They're in the trade in certain people in the in the fashion business who were called. You Know Merchants Leslie. Wexner was a merchant. He was said to have just a really good sense of what was going to trend in fashion and and What Women and young girls. We're GONNA like and he was the secret of the company's success really He built a company out of that. It was a successful company. He made a lot of money. And you know until this took place. I mean yeah. He was in his eighties and there was a sense that he would be resigning soon. And and there's also a sense of Victoria secret struggling but he would have retired as one of the great man in the history of the fashion industry and now he's not. That will never happen now. He will forever be associated with Jeffrey Epstein Strangely. So as Wexner wife tell us about her. So you know his wife's name is Abigail Leslie Wexner 's and when when Epstein did his plea bargain in Florida the first time. He pled guilty of these charges. But before it was known by the General Public Abigail Western set up a charity a nonprofit and Epstein deposited forty three million dollars into that charity then went to jail. The charity made to contributions to local Columbus Ohio charities and then it went out of business and sent the rest of the money to the Wexner Family Foundation. It's really hard to understand why those transactions took place. Why why did that happen? What was Mrs Wexner doing? Was she fronting for her husband she helping Epstein was she taking money acted that Epstein owed wexner. We don't know you know the other aspect of it is. In addition to the money that Wexner was paying Epstein directly he was also funding Epstein charities and in fact there are several nonprofits Epstein have where Westerners twenty one million dollars with the only contributions. That's another thing that's inexplicable. Because WEXNER HIMSELF. He had his own charities. Three or four of them The main one devoted to Jewish causes but also for his children and and and several others so in a why was he also funding epsteins charities. And you don't believe they're the ranchers to these questions yet. There are not answers to these questions yet. I think there will be some day. But they're definitely not yet. I mean the problem is you know Epstein has died so the criminal case against him is going away. So there's no purpose and interviewing people like Leslie Wexner to ask about Epstein because he's dead so it wouldn't be until the FBI or the Justice Department for instance arrest some of his former enablers that we might start to get some of the answers to these questions. And there are also civil suits pending against the Epstein Estate. Do you think any of those will yield answers. it's a little hard to tell and let me let me explain why this several things going on in the litigation arena that may prove fruitful so first of all just so you know the. The estate has hired Ken Feinberg. Who is the lawyer who did the nine eleven fund and many others to distribute Estate Money to victims but in order for the victims to get that money they have to opt out of of lawsuits. Many of them will do that. But some will not some will continue to sue the question From those who sue is will they settle If they settle any all the documents be sealed or will the public be able to see the documents Normally when you settle lawsuits documents are sealed. You can see where the problem is when you look at the lawsuit that was settled between Virginia Gha Fray who is a very important and outspoken victim and displaying maxwell who was epsteins former girlfriend and allegedly her is chief enabler so they settled a lawsuit. Fifteen thousand documents were put under seal. The Court of Appeals released about two thousand pages worth of documents which made headlines. But this still over ten thousand documents that have not yet been released that are still under seal and Maxwell's lawyers are doing everything they possibly can to keep them under seal. That's part of the problem here. Is that if victim settled with the estate. The documents will not see the light of day and therefore we won't know the answers if the documents are released then. There's a good chance we will see the answers. Finally there's there's another person that rarely gets brought up but Epstein had a brother Mark and he is the sole heir to the state. What you know about him. The one thing I can tell you about him is that he's not going to get any money There will be no money from that estate leftover because the chances are the between the lawsuits and the settlements and the can find. Burg's work Every Penny Epstein ever had we'll go to a victim Jonah. Sarah thank you so much for talking to me today. Thank you yeah. I was great. That was my conversation with Joe. Nocera a columnist for Bloomberg listened to wonder his podcast hosted by Jonas era. The shrink next door you can also learn about other abuses of power and trust in my podcast. American scandal surfer it and subscribe mysterious. 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Exposing The Real Epstein Cover-Up & How Deep It Goes

The Last American Vagabond

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Exposing The Real Epstein Cover-Up & How Deep It Goes

"Welcome to the daily. Wrap up a concise show dedicated to bringing you the most relevant independent news as we see from the last twenty four hours. Welcome the last American vagabond. I got a very special edition of the daily. Wrap up for you today. Join me live on the show. Today is Whitney web to discuss some bombshell absolutely paramount information in regard to the Epstein case that you are absolutely gonna WanNa hear. We're also GonNa talk about many things we always do. We're going to go through after we open today with the Epstein discussion and go through some clips that she's GonNa talk about it and give you some context around and then we'll get into some more discussion about what's going on today in regard to the propaganda that seems to be on overload right now in regard to the you know where this whole thing started and we can clearly see a two party paradigm playing all this as well some of the things we always go over but let's start off today's get right to it with something that. I'm sure you're very interested to see what I welcome Whitney to the daily wrap up. Thanks for joining me today. Hey It's great to be here that's it should. This'll be a new interesting difference for people that have been used to really wrap up the and and this is as they know you particularly have been somebody focused on the Epstein case. Your work in I think above most all else that I've seen is really some of the most powerful all encompassing work about the entire story and really. That's one of the things we're going to get into today. Is How much is commonly left out. Even as they're you know seemingly like to talk about the story today in the mainstream media so why don't we get into it? You know what it. What have you been researching on this out of the stars understanding was Maria Farmer who spoke to today and this is one of the first victims that actually went forward about Epstein. You know flu elaborate and tell us what you found. That's right so arm. Yesterday I talked to Maria farmer. Who as you said is the first victim of Epstein? Her Sister Anne was also a victim was the first to go to the authorities about Epstein in nineteen ninety six and It was over three hours You know we talked for over three hours. I was just blown away because I had read about her story. Mainstream media reports and I thought I knew what had happened to her and upon talking to her in her telling me her story. I realize that they have told less. I would say less than five percent. And she said the information she gave to me she had given all of these people and none of them reported it so I don't I don't know if I've ever hated mainstream media more than I hate them today. You know because honestly if they had done their job this would be so different and that goes for the F. B. I. also She she ended up calling. She told me right off the bat in the beginning of the interview that she thought the FBI was justice abusive as Epstein in Bali. Maxwell I mean that is insane when you consider this is supposed to be the institution that protects these women right and she says now. They're there to keep them safe there to protect them and that she's been in hiding she's had to go to all live and all these different rural areas moving around the country in hiding for years. Why these people walk free and the reason I wanted to talk to her on. It is because of this recent ruling out of Florida where they basically said that the sweetheart deal on that obscene gotten like two thousand seven that said that his co conspirators cannot be charged for any of the crimes listed in that case Walk free for good and that includes Glenn Maxwell that includes Leslie Wexner that includes everyone that was involved and it is a lot of people that were involved and it is just amazing. How cowardly mainstream media is for not doing this sooner I just arm in this girl. This woman lived. It was like a horror movie. I just could not believe What she lived through. I have some clips as she. She was gracious enough In brave enough to say you know the the call arm that that we had that she. It was okay to share parts of what she said. So we have a couple of those ready on if you want to go into the first one at talks about the What she had to say about the FBI absolutely and just real quick. I want to note. I had a great interview with David Mayes Winkle today in regards to the nine eleven grand jury and I just have to say how overwhelming it is to see so many ways that people who are the government or the mainstream media. Pretend that they're fighting for are the very people that they're in fact stem. They do this nine eleven survivor. People that are right now. The very ones trying to introduce evidence and they're not letting them while they pretend they're fighting for those same people same thing here whether the media the government is just so disgraceful that they pretend they're fighting for that truth while they're stepping on the listen to this clip and we'll keep talking. I mean I can't even explain to you. How abusive the F. B. I. S? It's unbelievable to me. I mean they first of all never offered me witness protection in when I called them they knew I was telling believe me. They knew what they knew everything I was telling him they already knew. Because they're in on it and it was so weird his reaction when I was talking to him. You know I call them and I got some answer. And then he passes me to some guy who's like when I start talking about wexner you know and I asked the guy do you have. This is all over the phone in Nineteen ninety-six I said. Do you have a file unless wexner? And he said why. And I said he's the head of the snake in this in America and I don't even know I was in Tueting this just and also I think it's common sense when you see all the stuff going on and anyway when I said that him he said Oh yeah I don't know maybe we do and I said well he's he's these people are are using child pornography and they've stolen photographs of my sisters that that right there would have been life in prison for Jeffrey England. I still have the envelopes with their touch DNA and fingerprints on them and the FBI will not take them from me. They never would. It would never take the envelopes that they stole. I mean they photograph out of these envelopes. And I've proved I still have the envelopes Whitney and the FBI was like yeah. We don't we don't need that. They also knew in Nineteen ninety-six that I'd been trafficked and Anne had been trafficked and that would have been enough to put them away but they never cared they didn't care and the worst part was lamed everybody. I named Donald Trump named everyone who I thought was the co-conspirator at the time so I named like Alan Dershowitz Donald Trump Absolutely the Clintons You know these are people that I saw coming and going that I knew part of it and I made it really clear that this is a very scary thing for children and that I see between five and ten girls day going upstairs upstairs and now that I know happening to them I want it to stop. Wow I know it's unbelievable and that is just a fraction of what she told me about. What the FBI debusschere that is just like honestly just a blip on the radar for for all of the stuff. They did to this woman and not only that she called the FBI is abusive. Jeffrey Epstein galet Maxwell. She called pretty much every mainstream media reporter who had ever talked to her like prostitutes a disgrace and she called one of them who will get to in a little bit a monster. I'm really like I'm really glad that she made. It's obviously the truth were there. Were you know that she's reporting a bit both sides arguably in the fake two-party idea that we're not talking about just the Clintons or just Donald Trump? Just ask you I'm blanking on his name. All of a sudden she just said it Anyway the point is that they're also all science you know is that this is not something. That's just a political thing right. This goes far and above and beyond all of that. And that's why what's interesting is something like this. We'll get ignored by the people who don't WanNA point out the false on their side of the two party paradigm and that's why it's so catastrophic to the truth but you know please continue. I mean this is a really powerful stuff. I mean I'm just GONNA go over a little bit of what happened to her Not In super great detail because you know we have a lot to get through today but Essentially she started working for Epstein as an adult and she was essentially forced to work for him because she was an art student at the New York Academy of art and it was the dean of that school woman named Eileen Guggenheim Who basically tried to marry her off to some like rich guy in England and then basically you know forced. Her was like very aggressive and sent her to go work for Epstein and she was doing stuff like interior decorating and doing art and things like that eventually they. She wanted to leave because she was uncomfortable with. A lot of stuff was going on pedophilia or anything like that. You know in for prolonged time. She didn't really understand. He thought they were Super Weird But at some point they sent her to live with the wexner at their guest house. Because Abigail Wexner Leslie. Wexner wife wants an artist and residents and they tell her that he's going to be able to do all the stuff when she gets there. She's GonNa be painting murals in all this stuff major media by the way totally screws up this story anyway. She was kept in that guest house for three months. She wasn't allowed to leave she. They basically starved her. They told her she was going to be able to go and eat at a country club. They went. She couldn't go. She went like three times accompanied by some person that was clear Hazel. She said that that was basically babysitting her epsteins behalf. I mean she was basically in prison there and you know she was there for three months right in about once a month. App Seen Him in Maxwell would come and on the last time they tried to rape her and she Barely escaped with her life. She said that the bodyguard For Leslie Wexner who introduces himself as her right hand as his right hand. Man as webster's right headman had come to kill her basically and she like locked herself in the House called everyone she knew had ever met in her entire life made a huge stink and she said that the whole guesthouse was bugged. All the other houses that we've heard about all Epstein residences. This house was bumping. Were watching her all the time rate and she said because she made such a big stink that was the only way she was able to get. Out Alive. And what's crazy is that. She told me I was an adult when this happened. Imagine if I had been one of those preteen girls or one of those young girls and she told me later on in the interview. She is convinced that these these people murdered these kids and I am just so distraught that this has this part of her testimony was not allowed to filter through mainstream media. I mean it's not just there. You know running interference for serial child rapists and sex traffickers. These are murderers. I am just in now that these people are like supposed to be off for life. Just cannot I cannot believe it. It is just so criminal on on a massive scale anyway. She eventually escaped from that nightmare. Scenario the guy that tried to kill by the way his bodyguard for will Smith and Hollywood celebrities real quick just for people that might not know what you just said right there that this the the recent update on the on the cases that these people are. It's done right. Now are going to be held accountable. All the victims are going to be the just like the first time. So it's just really frustrating. All the discussion of more investigation more research in it's just over just like L. claims to care about the victims. That's what the sickest part of it is you now. I'm they were always like this offer. The victims is all about the victims. Not at all and I I am limited it just. It makes me physically ill. I mean it was so I cannot imagine what this woman's been through. She has brain cancer right now. And she says it's because of the horrible strategy when Dir. They've been sending her death threats for years. She's had to live these rural towns. And she said it was some of the journalists she talked to following Epstein that have made tons of money from their coverage of him that directly put her life in danger on purpose because they wanted to make money. I just swore fine. I mean what's important for us to think about too as always we should be questioning everything. We make sure that we're not just taking things at face value. But I think what's important right now is to see that it's not just that what she's saying if the point that what she's saying as you're saying as you presented there is just being refused like it's not even being considered and this shows you appointed which either the mainstream media the government or someone who is choosing what to include. She was in what they feel is relevant. And that's not how that's supposed to go and we do that show you that. They're trying to cultivate an image of how this went down. And that's corruption you know horrifying to to realize these things that people like yourself and people like you know. A lot of us have been trying to cover for decades. Now that this is real this has been going on in government aspects in Hollywood aspects behind the scenes for a long time and the Epstein Cages. Really put a spotlight on the networks. That facilitate stuff like that and yet still. It's kind of seen as this conspiracy theory idea but Epstein was real ride like one of those things the mainstream us kind of puts aside and it's so frustrating and that's the whole point that they are hiding that aspect of the story even as we all know it happens. It's pretty disgusting and you're right to be outraged by it. Yeah well I mean. This is the first. I've seen victim that I've ever talked to you. You know for a long period of time and just I reported so much on this case and it just I was just so impacted by this call. It was just so I almost at a loss for words. Really just about what these people had to go through and they still keep fighting And they are just so brave to have gone up against Some of the most powerful people in the world Maria said that every time she went on mainstream media ended mainstream media interviews. Every time she brought up wexner. They cut out every time every single time. I mean he's like the richest man in Ohio. He owns a bunch of stuff there But the man is a criminal. He's connected to organized crime. This is documented and She said that he was the head of this. Israeli intelligence sexual blackmail up that it was Glenn Maxwell that answered directly to him and it was set up that way as a hierarchy and that he is like a top level Massad guy in the US and that he collaborates with the CIA interesting. How every single point that? This comes up against the The possibility of a foreign governments intelligence inclusion in this case is suddenly where they don't WanNa pay attention. That's something we should pick up on. I'm sure you've already paid Yeah of course yeah. She actually also confirmed a lot of stuff that had actually heard from a former Israeli spy that worked with Robert Maxwell. Killing Maxwell's father are even Manashi on a stuff about how the lane had met Epstein and had met Prince Andrew All along longtime before the Nineteen Ninety S. I mean they knew each other for years before they officially are said to have met and that she actually said that she grew up with the royal family and showed her like photo. She had twelve photo albums of hers like her growing up with with the royals she said and just a while the swamp is deed at most definitely and I think I mean we. The ties go far deeper than the things. Were even discussing here whether we're talking about Epstein ties with the US government. I mean we were talking about right now. Obvious connections back to Israeli intelligence are obvious aspects to you know the UK elite. I mean this. We have to see how far reaching this is. It's not just our government is not just it is so this is a worldwide network. In my opinion I think were which by the way as you know which. I'm sure you know that your work covered wexner as well which again I hope people will go back to the series on mint. Press news is fantastic. Work the dives into all of these people. And what's what you're talking about in regard you? Maria is is basically confirming the things that you've already been researching. It's it's Friday our work. Yes she also. This is relevant today. Talking about like Bill Gates right because he's on TV all the time. I had dug up this report that was scrubbed but it was published in the evening standard in two thousand wine at said that Epstein made most of his money from his business ties. The three men had said Leslie Wexner said Donald Trump and the third one was Bill Gates and according to the official reporting like from the New York Times or whatever they claim the earliest date that those two men met Epstein and Bill Gates was twenty eleven right on this one said in two thousand one that they had made like you know Epstein had made a ton of money with Bill Gates and she said she was she was around them you know Epstein in in the lane from nineteen ninety five to nineteen ninety six and she said that she heard them talk about Bill Gates like they knew him really well And there was definitely a relationship. They're not a surprise. These just like the work. We're seeing today in regard to these surveillance network people. It's it is an overarching. Incestuous very incestuous that's it's just completely overtaking everything it's it's very clear now. You had some more clips that you had said you wanted to play right. Some relief important stuff that ties in with the things we're talking about. Is that correct right So another clip that I think is really important. So people really now Just how complicit mainstream media has been in the cover up of what happened to these women and in these horrible crimes. is what Maria told me about Vicky Ward and Vicky Ward If you don't know who she is. She wrote several columns for Vanity Fair. I believe she works for CNN about Epstein and. She was one of the first reporters who ever talked to Maria. Former and What Maria had to say about this woman I just? I'll just let her say it Vicky Ward is. I'm GonNa tell you right now. She's a monster. She's Oh true monster. She's not a hero. We have to send a cease and desist letter because she's harassed my family for so long to try to save her face because she told Jalen Maxwell over drinks that I reported them to the FBI. Can you believe that this was three thousand? Two sheet for year promised us our safety for a whole year. And the I didn't meet with Graydon I met with Vicky and Vicki's the one that's responsible here because she was the person who promised us our safety and she promised us that she would protect the story. Bright since then she calls and threatens. I own your story. I can write your story. I mean she's a real. She's a real piece of work. Micky Ward cares about one person and that's Vicky Ward. She had CNN sending the hate mail and threat letters. If I wouldn't interview with her and we had my lawyers had to send CNN and Vicky Ward a cease and desist because of her she was calling. My Mom cry like harassing my mother for years. We're not talking for like but it was only when it was when it was in style. It's so gross. When People Vicki wards ready to get accolades and they're really abusers all. I wanted to tell you about her. Because it's important part of the story is that my whole family interviewed with her and it took us a year. Finally my dad flies out. We all interview with her. Were sitting there. You know we give her the story and then she calls and says and I give her three sources. No one had heard midst that three sources that they weren't just sources. They were billionaires and a famous artist so to billionaires who. Don't WANNA lose anything right. Very selfish people there bilionaire but they're willing to vouch for me and they will absolutely vouch for Maria farmer and Eric official and they all vouched for me and my story. They knew because I had called them from the estate of Les Wexner. But here's the problem with Vicky Ward Vicky Ward. She goes up to my lawyer in court. Says you know I know it's awful what I've done to me you know. I'm a kept woman and I need to live in a certain style and my boyfriend keeps me and my clothes and Bergdorfs my lawyers about drop up on her. He's like what is she mkx. What is she talking? Anyway it ends up. She lived with Les Wexner. Buddy yet that is just not speechless. I mean it's unreal the kind of things that laying out right there. I mean really just paints a picture of these people being the enforcement arm for the very people that they're pretending to try to hold accountable and shocking. I just think it is really important. I mean Vicky warrant. I'm pretty sure she's won awards for reporting. She's definitely at least in the court of public opinion. Been treated as like some some gray heroic reporter going after Epstein before you trying to expose him before I mean she got the story and then got in bed with the same people that she knew at the time were raping kids and she did it for money. 'em She she put these women Maria farmer and her sister in their whole family in like heart in harm's way they told galet maxwell who she told the Lane. Maxwell who Maria described to me is the most dangerous woman she's ever met. Vicky Ward promised to protect Marie and her sister and she goes and tells the most dangerous woman in the world in this. In this girl's eyes. You know that that is the person who reported her to the FBI needle. Think someone like Elaine. Maxwell's GonNa want revenge for that and the fact that Vicky Ward has been able to keep this a secret. I guess has not had this been air out in public. I think that needs to change. I think it is time that people Play that recording you now and hand Vicky ward explain. You know what she why she did what. She did. Maria farmer in her sister. Why did she buddy up with Lane Maxwell after she knew full well can play? Maxwell was up to you agree. I mean this is like always say it is far more despicable to you. Know there are bad people to do bad things all the time and that right on their face bad but the kind of person that will do really bad things but then project themselves as some altruistic hero. That's the worst of the worst of the worst. In my opinion those kind of people. You're right they need to be called out. I came to vagit. What kind of person it would take to sit down with somebody suffering through such an ordeal and then literally not just not doing anything about it but in fact go to the people who were causing that ordeal and tell them that. She's I mean it's it's just no words. I mean. These are horrible sociopaths. Please go on. I'm just GONNA keep ranting. Well what what happened to Maria? How she was almost killed. I mean that wasn't even all of it. You know. They took her sister that kidnapped her sister in and she thought her sister was dead and they had stolen photographs that she had her sisters. One of them was like twelve in the pictures. They were like half naked playing in bath. Tubs and stuff like not fully clothed Epstein took them delaying. Maxwell took those pictures and and she called after she left. You know got out of there alive. She called EPSTEINS office. Ask those pictures back and someone. She didn't get an answer in that she got called back in the end. She said you can't have them because Epstein has his briefcase in he's using them is what they told her and the FBI knew all of this the FBI knew all this and they did nothing they did nothing because these people are very well connected to the intelligence community about the US and Israel and organized crime and that is the FBI is protecting right now. These criminal organizations. That's a very common thread that we're seeing to again just on my mind with discussion. I had today about nine eleven same thing. We're talking about even brought up the idea of the dancing Israelis and that there's you know the actual evidence that they're trying to get a hold of right now that people. Kinda like a conspiracy theory. It's very real but the tie in the same way to the FBI and even to the interview. I'M GONNA probably tomorrow or Sunday with David. He says the same thing that the FBI intentionally drug your Vida pretended like they couldn't get permission if they're trying to cover up everywhere butts up against the foreign government intelligence groups that we're talking about like the anthrax attacks right after nine eleven and they destroy the database of the anthrax strain using the attacks so no one can ever find out where the anthrax really came from. I mean let's stop pretending to act. The is there to protect people. I mean I don't know if People WanNa do something maybe like flood their phone lines telling them how horrible they are. At least it'll put them on notice. You know I just. I am just so disgusted with these people that were told every day on like Cable News. These are the people that are there to help and protect and expose the bad guys. You know it's someone like me. That is telling Maria story now because other reporters wouldn't do it me. I'm like not a huge name. You know like these. All these people had the scoop she said the New York Times NBC ABC. I mean she named them. All in a single one would tell her story. Just the parts that like you know. We're the most sensational one of her the billionaires feelings. I mean it just makes me sick. You're being modest. I think your work is fantastic. And most of your point is well taken. I mean these are again. These are the people that are pretending putting themselves forward fighting these things and they're literally doing the exact opposite and an interesting note in the same way that we see in any event that you will always see the people to champion the mainstream talking points even later to be false you will see them rise through the ranks for the next twenty years. Every single person got it. Right will always be relegated down in the other direction. Everyone even if they are later shown to be right. That just has to show you the control mechanism that mainstream media really is and the government that controls it you know and these are the kind of horrific things we're talking about that they're covering up. We're not talking about you. Know traffic tickets and covering of small crimes. This is the government covering up sex trafficking. Let's not beat around the Bush here and that's what's happening and in the media's their arm up ultimate enforcement and propaganda we have to be aware. And you're at your point to the F. B. I. I've been saying this for a long time. The FBI permits from its inception was never designed to be here to help us. It was about the agency. That's literally directed at Americans about making keeping track of us about it has nothing to do with the kind of things they pretend to stop as we know there somewhere upwards of ninety percent of the things they have stopped in the past have been something that they had a hand in creating. You know at that. It'd be a statistic that certainly plays in with what we're talking about today. I know it is just so wild to think these are the line forcement people in. I just I don't know a now William Bar the Department of Justice is asking to give these guys powers doing definitely detain Americans okay. I don't feel comfortable for one giving the agency that did this. Maria farmer in the covered up night help cover up nine eleven and the anthrax attacks power to indefinitely detain whoever they want without trial and I don't think anyone else should either. I mean that's just crazy. Talk honestly to me at this point now yes. I couldn't agree more. I mean that's the bottom and it doesn't matter what you feel is what does this should be nothing that makes that possible like the FBI. Not these governments. Don't have the power to do such a thing. That's it's unconstitutional. They'll do it. Because they have the military might but technically don't have the ability to right to do so with their running out right now in front of us using the newest version of fear. Rather it's the virus that's said you know. Were another form of Isis or something else. They'RE GONNA force it in the same exact way and again. Do we have to realize how important your point is right? They're the same people that allow these things to happen. You know the the and also cover up past things that were also conducted against American people testing of other things but covering up sex trafficking covering up things that are hurting Americans on a daily basis. These are the people that are supposed to be doing good but rather going to be enforcing arbitrary unconstitutional laws against Americans because fear and that's always when it comes back to and that's what so horrifying about this. Sarah only thirty women that have come forward thirty Whitney I saw between. I'm not getting. I'm very disturbed. By this part. I saw at least five girls come in that House the day. I mean really slow down. There would be really really high. The actual amount more Whitney. It's in Macau where are they? Where are they ever they dead? I mean you have to be dead because you brad was like what if they became drug addicts. What you think. Some of them were killed. I think that they had to be. Because here's the thing Whitney Brad said he knows his five hundred just in Florida like we can't find them. Where are they these children were between? You know thousand thousand. I was very year and I found the little girl which is it was so exhausting. Whitney they were in his office to they were in there. Were just constantly little girls. They're constantly and I remember one one of the reasons I quit. I I am tired of dealing with the the the number of people going you know. I'm just tired of and that's on horrible now but I didn't understand what was happening entirely. I just knew it was weird and certainly didn't know is pedophilia. I mean and the other thing is gallon had said one day in Florida when I was in Florida. She said you know we have to go on a jog for a while and I said why. And she's the bull. Jeffrey needs three massages so while I was in Florida. There were three little girls being assaulted and now I look back on that. I'm so creeped out you know. I didn't know but I knew that. They abused their maids from the Philippine That was another reason. I quit Because one day I went to take a nap upstairs in the sixty six or in the mansion on seventy first and you know I worked the door like finding people in and there was no one coming in that day and so I went and took a nap and they were the sweetest lady from the Philippines ever and they came in and they were talking and one of them whispered we. I said I said How long have you worked here? And she said we were stolen. Like what does that mean near stolen. They were trafficked and they had them in. They had women from the Philippines in Florida and and in New York and in the House on And and and the ranch knit and no one ever cares like I mentioned that. Then everybody goes. Yeah well they traffic in the Philippines and Thailand and servants. See this this. This is the problem with the way that the mainstream media has put this story forward is. That's what you get while we don't we all kind of just generally know that. This was a sexy. Oh well you know. He's dead isn't he? It's over right as kind of this is just so despicable that these people are still suffering right now because a lot of people out there that still deserve justice and our government is just not caring to make music about those five hundred kids that they know we're in Florida and can't find. She said that when she was there she saw kids in diapers. She saw really young kids and she said she told us to people in mainstream media and they would not talk about it. Why would they not talk about it because if you listen to people like how Epstein Tiger run interference for himself? He would say like well. Another country's you know the age of consent isn't that low and even Alan Dershowitz tried to argue? You know. Oh well if they are in puberty or they get their period. It's fine they were now because when that fact comes out that whole pseudo excuse that I honestly find disgusting falls apart and in fact they wanted you know five hundred kids. No one knows where they are. She says it's way higher than that but they know for a fact that were five hundred. They can't find Florida alone this year. Algiers which by the way was version. I was trying to remember four this these cross over into the exact situation steering today. The people in power right now. We have a right to be upset about this. You have a right to be upset about what this is in the fact that nothing is being done about that. These this is there and this is just one person that you're talking to their. This is everywhere right now. The only people like you have the courage to actually reach out to them and get their stories are the only reason we're hearing this. I mean this is just a fraction of what she told me. We talked for three hours and twenty minutes right. it's insane. She told me that the ex wife of the President Ivana Trump went out with the lane and they went and they recruit recruited Vittoria model. Victoria's secret models together. But they weren't really models there. Were twelve year olds with braces and that they would show up in Jeffrey Epstein's office the next day and that she in Jelena Ivana trump would go out and they would do this all the time together. She sold them together constantly. Every time we went out to recruit girls this woman was there that is the mother. Eubank trump who is in has a huge policy influence ourselves. Her husband. And this is the ex wife of the president. I mean this is just so. I'm just so appalled and and people like Alan Dershowitz he. He can show his face in public. Nothing happens to him. He shows his face on. Tv He's allowed to go and be on cable television and no one calls him out on this crap even so-called Progressives Michael Tracy said on twitter that he doesn't feel strongly one way or the other about what Alan Dershowitz did. How can you not feel strongly about this? I mean you have to be just like totally like numb inside or you have to. You know be trying to you. Know be a career s trying to build your career on know with the reputation of those people you know. Good luck that plays a huge factor even the independent media for people that realize. There's things they just aren't supposed to go after you. That's very sad. I mean we. You mentioned the point about the experts. The ex wife of the president. I mean these are these are these are people that are right. Now championing so-called anti sex trafficking bills. And and doing you know these these are happening right now for all of us and there are clear ties to these people being tied to this from all sides of this. This just can't be okay and again the two-party politics heat this forever changing because no one wants to address the full problem right one hundred percent and you know this has to change. I mean the real story is going to start coming out because now that the ruling has gone in these people are are free victims just like Maria realized that the mainstream media was never going to tell their story and they're going to start talking to people like me and I'm not the only one this is going to come out and it has to come out. We have to know what really happened. Because these people were not held accountable. They're still doing it. Jeppe scene was was was not the guy in charge. You know he was just a manager. He's like a project manager. The guy in charge is Leslie Wexner at least from what Maria farmer said and he's fine he actually got his business he was he decided that. Oh now I have to step out from public view. Because I've been linked to Epstein and his his company was bought by Michael Bloomberg. Look like someone someone connected to Michael Bloomberg I it all stays in the same little club. You know another thing. She told me the Victoria's secret stores in New York City had cameras in them in the end that I've seen in his office could watch women undress in and get dressed with their bras. That's so criminal. I mean we just have to see how I mean. Look you can see aligned wexner. But I think that's the point and then again to really reiterate what you said there Epstein is just one person in a massive network rights for them. He's no longer there doesn't mean anything in regard to what we were uncovering but they're trying to pretend like that. Put the story to bed and it goes further lecture. In my opinion it goes all the way up and I think we need to really see that. Now we talking. About the how Fargo's the people included let. Let's go and play this clip that you were going to reference unless you WanNa say something first and then and then we can finish out discussion the big well all under USA cleverly quick. This is a clip where Maria talks about stuff that she heard from Glenn and that she saw about two lane that's related to the Israeli intelligence ties and also about the people that are protecting the maximal. Right now. She names him so then she says to me you know my dad was a very powerful man and you know he was very important she submerged. You don't understand. And then she showing me like who she grew up with and how powerfully was and how much money they had and then she goes on to tell me she said you know Maria Mrs true she said and she showed me she had passport. Get the I don't know how this is legal. She had a passport a French passport. An English passport and Israeli passport. An American passport and there was one other. I'm trying to think of what the other one was. And I was like thought you were only allowed to be citizen like of two countries or something. I didn't know she was like. Oh no no no because of my dad. I am a citizen of all these nations and I'm like what so then later when she was talking to me about something one day. She said that the rothschilds were the greatest protectors of her family. And she wasn't talking about Lynn Forrester by the way before. She said that she had told me that the reason she mentioned that. I mentioned when forester there is because Lynn forced to Rothschild who married into the Rothschild on family a longtime friend and supporter of the Clinton family had threatened. Her life like numerous times wants her dead. She said I know. Who'S PROTECTING LEAN RAT? Maximal right now and it's the rothschilds and I know this because they send me death threats. They're the people that want me to shut up. And she says she doesn't think about a lot of people speculated because of how important Robert Maxwell wise and how you know in my she was is really intelligence that okay lanes probably in in Israel. She says now that she's in the UK in the rothschilds or hiding her in England and that's why she's untouchable and that's why the story is dead. She says it's them and I think people need to know that absolutely because this is a family that like mainstream media will never talk about and they say if you say anything bad about them your antisemitic they tell you that straight up was pointed out is that it's very suspicious. Sort of like how we pretend knowing gets taught about the Federal Reserve in school. Why is that right? There's obvious weird things like that. We every time you have you know exposes about the richest people in the world. Why are they never included right? There's obviously reasons the Rothschild's Rockefeller's plenty of big family names that just get left out of these things and it's obvious reasons why it's bigger than just one story but there's obvious tie-ins with pretty much all the nefarious things. I think we can point to today. But as you mentioned and I'm sure we'll be having more work out from you from this topic but there's a lot more to get into a three hour discussion. That will come out on the show here of Whitney's articles in the near future next weeks or so and so you can look forward to that. I mean it's pretty powerful stuff in there. This was just the ones we picked out for you guys to listen to you that we thought were the most important. But there's so much to talk about and I'm sure you're much also I- so unless you had anything else you wanted to mention about this topic I'm sure you know we talk for the next six thousand but for some of the bigger things but anything else you want to say on it. The only thing I'll add is that not only that you say the rothschilds or protecting lane. But she said also that she really from what she understood. And how Galina talked about the rothschilds. They were the ones that were really like. That's who they really answered to. That's basically how she she phrase it but like in terms of the hierarchy of this operation. That was going on. Us soil. She said that Wexner was the head in America but she emphasized that in in the US that was the head in the US how interesting I mean. It's so interesting. How as we continue down these stories of you know the rabbit hole if you will it continues to just basically be. Oh it's exactly what the conspiracy theorists were saying ten years ago. How does that you know like with down? To the mark like Zimmer things you think are rages in if you literally laid out even with the mainstream news reporting about this story today rather laid it out. Let's go back ten fifteen years ago and tried to present. What they're reporting now would have been called a crazy. Dimple conspiracy theorist you know we always have to reflect on that that was spiracy theory when we weren't allowed to say it and now it's same story. We're going to get into right now. Actually funny. It's perfect segue talking about what's dealing with going on today with Corona virus in China and everything and it's weird to suddenly notice that the story I in fact had a video that still is removed right now on Youtube for discussing. The idea of potential bioweapon even entertained the possibility that it could have come from. John could come from the United States. But that's deleted and now today we're seeing the mainstream media suddenly start talking about VAT topic but of course. It's very clearly focused on. Its China came from Uganda. That's what happened. Despite the fact that most of the evidence seems to suggest otherwise but neither side has been proven. That's what I'm trying to focus on. Let's look just just jump to some articles here and we can talk about what we're We're seeing on the mainstream and all and elsewhere Let's see here okay. So first off. Let's start with your article and you can see correct. Oh Yeah my tweet. Yes so article that we're GONNA discuss e she tweeted this out the other day actually for striper. So I've faulk sites multiple sources who have been briefed on the details of early actions by China's government. This is vague AF. These could be anybody this seems like. Wmd's over again dangerous. I couldn't agree more and go ahead and comment on that or not. We can actually show the article here it. It's it's exactly what you might expect and exactly what we've always been saying about foreign policy and everything else sources say. Trust me so I wanNA point too here. Let's think about this phrase for a second if you don't mind highlighting it multiple sources who have been briefed on the details of early actions by China's government. These do not say sources in government. These are not government officials. These could be this. Could anyone this could be a meal. Think-tank that had been briefed by someone who knows who on alleged actions taken by China in the early days of the outbreak. I agree no I agree. I can't see I'm not seeing us a multiple but we just look through it but the real. It's it's in the first paragraph but nowhere is Let's see what he was. He says. There is increased confidence that Govan nineteen likely originated in the Wuhan Laboratory. Not as a bioweapon and first of all just right off the bat I had. This is the first thing this is what I was trying to point out to people watching everywhere. This is being reported after this. So all of the big social media people on twitter. At all the you know hardcore right-leaning social youtubers are all saying proof. Faulk says it came from Uganda. Wrap THE BAD. It says increasing confident. So that's not even close to definitive that likely originated in Wuhan so the very first sentence basically saying we don't know right so it's just so frustrating that's being passed off as definitive. It says but as part of China's effort to demonstrate that its efforts to identify and combat viruses or equal or greater to the capabilities of the United States. Which by the way is exactly what the US is doing also right. Both countries are doing this trying to be better than the other one and half more preeminence. I mean this is constantly happening. But as it's presented as only one sided. Multiple haired has multiple sources who have been briefed. Which is just what does that even mean right. I mean it's it's crazy. What are your thoughts on that because this is something? That's we constantly see. I mean that's that could be nothing right. We could not even exactly. That's what I was saying. It could be anyone. It can be any source. Normally when it's government sources source of government or the intelligence community. They say that they say multiple government officials or multiple sources in new telling community or former and current administration officials. Or something like that. They don't even say that sources. Okay let's remember to two thousand one. Abc News cited four unnamed but well placed sources for the claim that there was been tonight and the anthrax using the anthrax attacks and that turned out to have never happened in. Abc never retracted. That story. Right another thing. I want to point out in the first paragraph increasing confidence. Well if you start at zero and then go to zero point zero five. That is an increase in confidence. Isn't it I mean that is clearly trying to basically they know they have nothing but they're basically trying to make it sound like for people that aren't using discernment you know that this is you know there's something really here when you actually read between the lines. There's not right when this is what they want people to see. That's IT sources believed that originating lab. And all the really GONNA SEE. Is that right and that's what people are going to report and that's what's GonNa come out and that's Fox. News says at go just next line and says this may be the quote costliest government cover up of all time one song it's like. Oh that's powerful right and again we have to recognize these sources are what I what we don't know. Intelligence assets other mainstream journalists other government individuals but all of them have a vested interest in the narrative. Like why would you believe the what they have to say about their enemies especially coming from the government and in the media you mentioned that are you could verifiably show have been caught lying covering up any number of the Duma Iraq the entire story? Here we are again it stack that we keep seeing this look at the next one. The sources believe that the initial transmission of the virus was back to human and that patients were to laboratory then went to puffing. These are reaching if we don't even know what the material is. What point do they stop saying their material can show? And what point would they think that then means you see what I'm saying like it's so abstract and immediately and like you said the next part the increasing confidence comes from classified an open sore on SARS which means what things they found on Ryan or crazy crazy? But this this and there's more than just this one as well we have these and there's a lot more we're going to talk about. Here's all of these things. All of the many different things and sadly seemingly prominent today from zero hedge it would appear but coming out and just basically aggressively trying to show you one part of the story or trying to present something. That's pretty innocuous mean rather just that's ever presidents everywhere every government. Does it as something that is indicative to prove that they did it and it came from this place? Which is exactly right. But so you're the timeline part and I just I. This is why I found this one very interesting time line of the possible cover up and this cover up exactly Ericsson fossil and so this is this article was meant to be part of this one. Like it's meant to bolster that and it's the same cable. Here's our timeline of why we think that this is where it came from. But here's what I found so interesting. So they start on December six right and this is what as you know the the government. Us government trump's administration has been forcefully saying that China covered it up they knew in December. And that's where it started right but as we've been talking about on this channel. We have evidence coming from everywhere. The disinfect started in November. If not sooner now this is coming from Israeli TV reporting in Israeli TV today that they were warned the idea of a NATO were warned from the US government about this and they knew it was in November. We have Italy saying they have examples of this being November in Italy. We have the obvious vaping mysterious taping illness happening at the same time for even the United States. So why then are they pushing the idea if they know it started in November if December right when they say China light about it started November right? We thought so while. I think it shows a major hall in the story. I mean clearly from how the report is constructed in in the type of phrasing used. This is so similar to weapons of mass destruction. Saddam Hussein's bottom. You know they would just use these sources say sources say this and then it would be all. These claims that were later proven to be super like entirely false that were based on faulty intelligence. That was passed office fats in enlarged by the media so the fact that they're saying this starting December but the evidence keeps pointing to November. Because it's not just Israel at saying that like you pointed out there was also an ABC News report. I think a week or two ago that was saying that the US like the CIA. I think knew that this was happening in November or something like that. So for that for them to accuse China being a cover up when these people are open. You know it's coming out the intelligence agencies and the idea in the. Us government was telling people about a month prior. That does not make a whole lot of sense to me right and so many different points in the potholes in his narrative. But the idea that we have all kinds of evidence that they were aware of the world was talking about this at the time in early January. This week the world was aware and yet they still try to double down the fact that if they hadn't hit this thing that we were still all aware of they would have done something which is just irrational. Because we all knew about it. They right they're accusing them. They accuse them back then of hiding information. So it's like they didn't even believe that their own assumption. I mean it makes no sense and I found this interesting. This part where it says they the ideas in a man linked to Wuhan in the wildlife market experience. These symptoms five days later. His wife who had no direct connection the market also experienced it at which should suggest a human to human spread according to the Lancet. Now what's ridiculous about? This is the referencing the Lancet article that we've talked about before that in fact if you actually go through the information it doesn't they're they're picking out one part of that and using it to progress one part of their narrative. The Lancet article was actually one of the first ones. That said it probably didn't start in this location. You know what I mean like it. Just either cherry-picking data now. We could go through this list of the timeline and is probably a lot more things in there. That are faulty. I probably will do that but it. It just clear that they're trying to build this now. I'm also going to point out that it not saying that. This is false. I don't think it's true but we can't prove that it's false just yet but what you're seeing is people trying to force in their part of this and telling you that it's the case despite them continuing to say possible. We know where this is going. And they're all leaving out a lot of different things now on good if you had some say. Well it's just a continuing pattern of what we're seeing about this whole It's a China bio weapon or a. You know it's only China's fall You know stuff to deal with this lab when a lot of evidence that could cited for these claims openly mentions US government involvement things like that so even if it did originate in these places would. There's obviously more than one potential possible guilty party if you know and and they're intentionally leaving that out with an obvious agenda to genesis aggressive militaristic rhetoric. I mean the last thing we need right now is war with China right so I just can't believe we're listening to you know neo cons in WMD style reporting again but so many people are buying this. It's very disconcerting to say the least totally totally. I mean that's such a great point that I really really just can't say enough that then. This is kind of what I was saying. A moment ago about presenting one thing without really key fleshing out and showing you what it means and it happens everywhere then the US so again. It could start. Let's say it did start in the lower near the lap that doesn't even like you said mean explicitly that the. Us is not part of that. Right they have. I mean I keep saying this on my show the you can show in. Your work has made this very clear you can show any number of connections. I believe it was North Carolina University for Dietrich depending they all have presence in that Wuhan Lab. They they're working. You don't show that the other way around you don't see Chinese presence in Fort Dietrich or another way that that's has to show you something so at the very least is it not possible that the. Us planted adhere to blame China or that. They were working on something daily. Did I mean there's any number of possibilities but that just gets overlooked. Which is what you were saying. And that's so frustrating and on this point there's a lot of these things coming up there. I was mentioning things like this go. With nineteen is a man made virus HIV discover says could have only been lab created right there first of all. This is something that we've talked about a lot. Dr Boyle says the same thing. I think that we have to pretty much see that. That's the case based on the evidence in front of us. Nothing evidence could be falsified or manipulated based on. What's in front of us? It seems pretty clear that this was you know gain function all the different things you talked about does seem pretty clear. But here's a new guy nature of the person that really as it says in. The article was is focused on HIV. They could have only come from a lab. And that's something that doesn't seem that crazy. Something that has the first article headline excuse me paragraph notes that zero had was also censored for talking about but what I take issue with is when they get into this and they say right here that he says contrary the narrative that is being pushed by the mainstream the he was transferred Actually it was right here right here. That when he says it's not a quote he claims that it was manipulated virus manmade that was accidentally released from the Han lab. Now at this point is he saying that his evidence proves that came from that lab or is this the same thing boyle was saying when Spiro asked him that he thinks it's man-manipulated based on the evidence but when you ask him he thinks no. It just seems most likely that came from that lab. Because that's where the location we know it from right so this articles presenting it that this person has expert is claiming that it started in that lab. Right that's what it says right there and that's what he goes on to say but there's no quotes other than in discussion of the HIV sequence. And the fact that it's manmade see the point. I'm getting at that. They're trying to subtly suggest that the experts sexing came. Luhan when really? That's just the general narrative before taking face value in his claim is that it had to be manmade thoughts on that. Well I think Unfortunately Zero Hedge has been publishing a lot of this type of information that I honestly don't think is is very transparent reporting because whoever manages that page seems very sure that it is a Chinese. Buy a weapon in so has been really heavily promoting that and there's a lot of reason to disagree with that which we can get into in various but you know this whole thing about the HIV in insertions and stuff. I mean there have been people that have been suggesting that it was you know had to be made in the lab for a long time but I guess it's gaining more traction now because this conservative media push that we're seeing sort of you know say it's definitively a bio weapon that was released for In Wuhan from this particular building which is a very specific narrative that needs very specific evidence to support that point. And we're not getting that at all instead. We're getting these sort of Manipulative reports that are suggesting that it's a certain way when that's not what these people are actually saying in this case or in the case of Fox News. They're just using all these words to make you think they have something when it's a non story basically. Yeah yeah absolutely. I mean it's a better myself. That's exactly where this is. We need to be able to recognize that there are people with agendas around the story that are trying to drive things. Even using factual information right. That's what's so important to realize is. This is true but the problem is this is true that this van opinion this man's opinion but that they're going to try to manipulate the story and hide certain things from and I think we have to recognize that there's potential tie-ins all over the place. Here's another one. Chinese military. Scientists have been experimenting with biotech as new domain of warfare. Now I figured you'd appreciate this one because this is something what your your bio baths by weapon. Article talked about that. This is something. That's clearly been ongoing in this country in Fort Dietrich as well as other places which is more lab for a long time Corona viruses and bats. But this story is essentially pulling one thing. I'd either saying flashback. Look at this. Chinese scientists were working with biotech and trying to make new. Okay like and the whole story when you get into. It is about the fact that see. They're doing this. That's why they're guilty but so is the US in the US is do they write down in the documentation at a bioweapon. Ethnically focused was a useful tool right so both the abyss but their only presenting one side of it. You know it's crazy. A totally one-sided it's worth pointing out that you know it was peanut act the project for a new American Century in the rebuilding America's defenses daugh- the document that talks about Neural Newport harbor. And all of this before nine eleven published in September two thousand. And that's where it talks about. Oh modern technology will make race targeted bioweapons politically useful tool. That comes from these neo cons. You know who a lot of them are influential in the government today and they're also a big part of this propaganda. Push trying to say that. This is all China's fought like James Woolsey the former CIA director who was really a big part of trying to blame nine eleven anthrax on Saddam. Hussein I mean he's part of this committee on the present danger China. That's really a big part of this push about this narrative that now. Fox News and the Washington Post or starting to promote. But they've been promoting this for months and this is you know he was part of peanut. He was like a big time member of peanut right and so this is how he's thinking and he signed on that document that said. Oh race bioweapons politically useful tool. And now he's part of this. You know propaganda construct saying oh no but only eighty that we would never do that. Okay you know. I don't buy that for a second if you look at the history who of. Who's actually used biological weapons has China ever used biological weapons. The United States. There's no evidence of that but there is evidence that US used it in China during the Korean War in use it in North Korea right so who has a massive bio weapons research apparatus. That had has had documented leaks in safety violations numerous times since the early Nineteen Ninety S. That's the US right. You had all those anthrax samples all those aged samples on known experimental pathogens samples disappearing from Fort Dietrich in the early nineties then you have dugway proving ground in Utah and other part of the US bioweapons program Domestically Shipping Live Anthrax over seventy times. Two eighty six different labs around the world okay and then you have last year for Dietrich. Being closed for numerous violations it was hidden from Congress and then was pressured. The CDC was pressured by the Pentagon to partially reopen it. Before those safety violations were fixed in November last year and they had two breaches a containment last year as well. And that's not talked about at all if these people were honestly looking for a culprit. They would mention that and they're not and that tells you this political absolutely I mean I was just referencing. Some research documented about the US. I want my show yesterday. Actually Wind in-depth again talking about bags of stuff. And you look at the actual information over the years and I I was trying to look real quick and I don't have the exact stat but something like three times a week for seven years. They had leaks containment issue. That's how many times they've had leaks thousands of them from these laps and these documents. And that's just crazy to see now as you said. Is there evidence that would be capable of using a bio weapon on the US absolutely with their government? Would they do it on people? I would say absolutely I think any governments capable but the point you date. Is there evidence of it? No not not that I have seen. There's plenty of it coming from the US. And that is so incredibly important in this discussion and nobody wants to talk about it. Interestingly enough you mentioned Wolsey and it's so funny he's on Msnbc where he references the idea about meddling other elections you remember. That was the same thing right. Yeah and he did that weird. Laugh like such a He's like a comic book villain. So many of these guys are yeah. It was the same point it was all about when we do. It's good stuff or we're doing it for free. You know I always said but it was the sentiment known same thing checkless but so let let's keep going on to some other things a bit. Were relevant to this discussion in regard this case about the reach here and I think this one ties back into specifically the timeframe and the potential so this is saying. Us sailors are infected on a French aircraft carrier right. So we're talking about is a timeline. Here it seems to suggest these people are on this ship. So you know it's another challenge is the narrative of the timeline. Basically that we are American people on an aircraft carrier in a French aircraft here. They're now making people sick. We know that we've got four aircraft carriers and the United aircraft carriers that are deployed. That are all now. Have six people. Now you've got a fresh aircraft carrier because of the people that are on there so it seems to suggest that again just like the Spanish flu that the US people are the ones kind of pushing this out. And there is a lot of data to suggest that including the time line for the first deployment of the first aircraft here. I think that was the theater that was early. January so that in and of itself challenges the General Narrative that that person that they're the point is people got sick on that and they deployed in January so the people had to have been sick in January. Two people sick on that aircraft. Here see interesting timelines like that that they're just not caring to address right. So what your thoughts on this idea? That decision how this could have happened. Well you know. I think it's not only their. They're sort of covering up. A A timeline differences. Let's also remember to why this outbreak was going around or starting to get a lot of media? Attention of people worried about how bad it would be in lockdowns. We're starting to happen in the US the US sent like thirty thousand troops to do a NATO wargame drill but I think ended up being cancelled but they ended up going to Europe and traveling on over there at a time when all his stuff was going around in. And there's been these weird policies that the trump administration or people you know in the government right now have been promoting where you almost think. Are they trying to get people sick? You know like when they were having the evacuees from the Diamond Princess cruise ship fly back together. Uninfected and infected Americans fly back together. That makes no right so in in this whole thing with the Navy destroyer saying I haven't looked into it as deeply as I could have. But there's a lot of weird stuff going on. They had this guy resign All these soul all these guys are sick and I think honestly you know there may be a sort of an A dark motive here potentially because if you get enough members of the military you know test positive that you can make an argument that there is a huge national security threat and they could potentially use that for some of this continuity of government stuff that just the other day. Newsweek had promoted once again saying that. There's this task force ready for that in DC. If this goes live in one the things that it can go live for is if there's some huge national security threat which includes not just the government like Congress and the president but also the military you know suffering some sort of major emergency and that includes a health emergency like this so it's definitely something worth looking deeper into Agree I the game. Part about Europe is really interesting because I said the same thing. I even played clips. That happen the this is an unforeseeable. Understand this was in the midst of this. This is what everybody was this. You know social distancing and the whole thing and they sent the soldiers over there. They weren't wearing masks. Were shaking hands somewhere even kissing cheeks of other people that when they got off the plane. How does that even possibly make sense? The military of Alz historically speaking is usually the one. That's the most strict about things like that. You know caught precautionary measures and they just didn't seem to care. The first thing people ask was well. What did they have? Something's protecting them like. Why would they not take precautionary measures and it was really odd that they sent people in and of course the other near point in this whole thing is that the war focus continues whether it's the French aircraft care all their aircraft carriers of the war games like why is that a focus but they sent him there anyway into Europe and then weirdly suddenly. Oh whoops this is a bad idea. Let's bring them home. It's so good you send him over there. Get PEOPLE SICK. Change talk you know. Shake People's hands then bring them all back to the country. It's like it's like the best way to possibly change over everything you can it just it just. It seemed Iraq. It just didn't make any sense at all again that you have to ask. What were they doing? Their radio shows you aggressive incompetence or they wanted something to they wanted to transmit or something that we don't see you know. I think maybe both actually as usual but very very but we can talk more about the things that they're implementing because of all this and of the passengers shows up in trying to kind of break it up into these categories because it seems like they're you know clear categories here you know. What's the lies being told about it? The the narrative of the bioweapon discussions the authoritarian actions the financial discussions right and so this one is specifically about a things that they're trying to implement and this is just ridiculous. This isn't even this to me. Is the kind of thing that needs to scare. People realize that this is the kind of future that they're building with scare. Talk back did that. This isn't GonNa go away. Even if the virus sphere goes away. They're gonNA say oh. Well we still need social distancing to make sure his nap and again. We're looking this idea telling beach. Downs planned plexiglas cages to enforce sunbathing on the beach right. I mean this is just outrageous and I don't even I argue. This isn't even going to happen because this seems like so far but realized that this is the kind of thing that they're implementing they're discussing. These aren't meant to just be here until virus goes way this is going forward. So what are your thoughts on that? Well I think I would sort of compare this what happened. What happened with nine? Eleven in the airport security staff how it ended up turning out not to be necessary into sort of like behavioral modification of the public. Seeing what crazy stuff you know from the from the central planners perspective right seeing what crazy stuff you can get people to agree to do making them think it's for their own safety right so with airport security these very invasive pat downs or you have to go through the thing the machine that you go through it enough times irradiates you basically so here what we have is you know keeping people from ever going back to normal. This is the new normal introducing a new normal. It's something people would never like do at the beach before now. What we're supposed to think that all beaches are just going to be these little plexiglass cubicles in that. You know that's just I think it's really unfortunate but in in kind of clownish but unfortunately there's so many people that are still You know so like asking begging for this stuff. I mean where I live in Chile You know there's plexiglass stuff round the cashiers there like surrounded by plexiglass when you go to the supermarket and they have like not just face masks but like these plastic face mask to you. So it's like three layers of protection You know and they're just putting this up all over the place Trying to keep us the social distance. And they've been telling us to this. Social distancing is going to be here forever. It's never going to go back to normal at least not in tellers vaccine right so I guess it's on conditioning. The public for all these things. They normally wouldn't accept also dangling the sort of thing of oh well once we know that your immune and that you're not a danger and you can't contract this virus then you can go back to normal but for everyone that we can't say that for this is how they have to live. It's very. It's very interesting that you say that in that. That's what so horrifying and we should know right off the bat. That doesn't make any sense. And anyone honest will tell you that because these things will always change in a ball in the making a vaccine now based on the first thing they discovered even when they're done will most likely not be able to deal with what's happening currently and they know this because the point is a forever profit model and they'll just make a new vaccine but it's interesting you mention that because I had this one on the side that I was. I wasn't even mentioned Check this out. Scientists discover alarming colonel mutation that could render vaccines useless and I actually think that this in a way is more fearmongering than anything. But it's it's a reality the fact that I just actually just with Dr Judy. Make Bits and Dr Boudoir on a panel yesterday the couple of days ago and they were saying the same thing they all know this and it's kind of an open secret the vaccine our making now is basically going to be useless when it comes around because of what things are changing and now we're even seeing this and they're admitting at least on this article that it changes could make it useless so I just. I think my opinion is that this is all being forced in even as they know this because they've always wanted these things here anyway. What are your thoughts absolutely on a lot of the solutions that we're seeing promoted now? We're being planned. Well before corona virus ever came on the scene and anyone ever thought there would be some sort of global pandemic on example of this. I talk about is like the indefinite indefinite detention. The surveillance program with healthcare databases of Americans that was field last year. On by this I forget his name but he is the former head of NBC universal. It was promoted really heavily by Ivanka. Trump within the White House as well this Harba Health Advanced Research Project Agency in the safe home program. It's very similar to the corona virus surveillance system that is now being promoted by the jared Kushner Ivanka's husband by his task force rate. And as you now but I'll make sure everyone else knows now. I'm working on a report. Now that's based on a document from this government commission. Us Government Commission for May Twenty nineteen. And they're they're basically talking about All of these different solutions that need to be implemented in order for the US maintain its technological advantage over China in a ton of these things were seeing implemented now under the guise of corona virus including the digital dollar that was in this corona virus. Relief Bill they were talking about this stuff. They're in a bunch of other stuff and they definitely have been waiting for the right crisis to to go and try and remake society essentially. That's what this document for me. Twenty nineteen talks about basically remaking society in a way that Americans normally wanted. Except but you know the right thing comes along and they'll accept it. Look at what happened with nine. Eleven right exactly and I know you have another interview. You have to get too soon so we can wrap it up here. I think it's just important that you mentioned that you talked about the constantly of government and exactly what you laid out right there as you know the talking about the main core discussion on the list of people just like us that will be the first ones to be rounded up even when decide that they need constant government actions. And that's as you mentioned in Europe. I think at the time in the Reagan administration. It was eight million people on that list. Then imagine what it's like right now. So that's what we have to be concerned about. That's worth dealing with right now. The you mentioned the Kushner bag surveillance system the vaccine based thing. We know that I need two thousand twenty with vaccines. We're talking about immune ization cars. I mean these are things that are going to be used to implement what we're seeing materialize in front of us and those like you said. That will be problematic. People like us that say. Well we have constitutional rights. Well you're now problem. You'RE GONNA be rounded up and considered you know her. What do they call it? The oppositional defiance disorder. Whatever you know that the ask that this is what we have to see coming and I look out Sir. But he's upcoming article because it will be great as usual and I hope you will share it around. Thank you for joining me here for this special edition and as well as we mentioned more coming out about the Epstein discussion as well so stay tuned for that. Thank you being here yells. You want to save anybody before we go No that's it. Thanks so much for having me on it was my pleasure and I hope people learn delight. you know from what we had to say and My obscene stuff. I'll be having more about you know Maria farmer and hopefully you have some interviews with some other victims who are now really hoping that they'll get their story told in our you know. The gloves are off after that ruling right so definitely Stay tuned for more on that US. A lot coming you guys and as always question everything down to your own conclusions stay vigilant.

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Apple, McDonalds, Starbucks

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Apple, McDonalds, Starbucks

"It's Wednesday January twenty ninth. Welcome to market FOOLERY WITH ME IN STUDIO Mr Bill Barker. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having burning. Season is in full swing. We've got McDonald's we've got starbucks. We have a longtime CEO emphasis on longtime reportedly leaving the company that he he founded and we will get to all of those but we have to start with apple. Because Apple's first quarter which is the holiday quarter was everything you would want to be if you're an apple. Shareholder profits and revenue came in higher than expected iphone sales fifty-six billion dollars worth of IPHONE. Sales else yeah. This is the quintessential beat and raise kind of quarter which apple probably needed in terms the stock Devaluation was trading At all time highs in now is a new all-time high a little bit more so it fulfilled A very high expectations and the question. That you know probably will be bandied around will not spend too much time on this house is evaluation justified at this point. Yeah I mean. We'll we'll get to the stock in a second but the iphone sales rightfully so getting the headlined find the. What is the other products category? That's the official named apple gives it the other products Apple Watch Air Pods beats headphones. Ten billion dollars worth of sales. Yeah you can split up the various segments of apple and get a number of extremely large companies and I should just spin off the other products and you'd have a maybe not a maybe not a top top one hundred company in terms of market cap but certainly top two hundred certainly if you were a fortune five hundred s and p five hundred companies. How many could you get out of Apple? There that that must've work has been done a few times the pile of cash is one of them At at over two hundred billion right now is one of the more dominant companies In history is apple's pile of trades under the ticker P. L. C. S. But in terms of the actual business yeah they've got the the various moving parts wearables. I I guess and and home and That being the the fastest growing part today and and so- expectations for for that or are the highest of various things I think that the IPAD and Mac Sales were a little below expectations and there. It would have been a time where that would have been a big problem But today is not that time iphone is still the dominant part the business and and really got the job done Especially in China. So what about the stock well actually before we wrap up on the stock worth mentioning and this is something will return to a couple of times. Today Tim. Tim Cook did talk about China. And I think in most notably showed up in the guidance that they gave cue to the range of guidance was wider than and they normally give and that was tim cook in his team's nod towards the uncertainty in China and rightfully so yeah a bit of uncertainty. Both as is to what the purchasing patterns will be there especially over quarter in our relief. You're looking at apple over one quarter of timeframe you're probably missing a lot of story there but Possibly benefiting a little bit from move to do some of the manufacturing outside of China and really. Yeah this like many other companies is talking has to talk about what the China fact is going to be in his largely answering entering with the you know over the short term. We really don't know over the long term. Probably not much of a problem apple stock has more than doubled over the past year. As you said it's at an all time high as strong as this company is. This really doesn't seem like the data by shares if you don't own shares so going into the day it had moved up from Over the last six months from about seventeen times earnings of over the next twelve months to twenty four times earnings over the next twelve months The next twelve months earnings. Are you know. Always a little harder to Way Than than the actual trailing twelve months so it they're looking at good earnings in the next twelve months and things like China might be more of a headwind than than we know today And giving a much higher multiple on that positive future. The than was being done six months ago. So yeah the the risk here is that the the stock trades a little bit more like the stock usually trades and at some point in the future. It probably will shares of McDonald's up a little bit this. It's morning after a good fourth quarter report. McDonald's prophets were a little higher than expected global. Same store sales were nearly six percent Another company dealing with uncertainty in China in the future in the present. McDonald's closed a few hundred locations agency. But that's a tiny fraction of the number of locations. McDonald's has around the world. Yeah there is certainly a time when McDonald's was looked tat Negatively for not having done as much expansion into China Essay Yum brands which got bigger there faster and earlier than McDonald's. What's but Today that doesn't look like As much of a problem They have to sort of give the same answer today that Others are giving. We'd we don't not really no. We're taking care of our employees and and you know we don't know I I think that for McDonald's it's more temporary sorry a more where permanent hit to actual cash in the bank in that. If you don't eat Adam McDonalds you're not gonna eat more there later hopefully Whereas if you don't go out and buy your iphone today and you really want to you're gonNA buy it And you know in a month or two or something like that so I think that you you know the phones will eventually be built and manufactured and sold and McDonald's. This is a you know when when they're closed for business they don't they don't make that up later. So that said is another good quarter. I think they have highlighted that US sales are an traffic is what they're you're most focused on and I think that is going well the US guest count getting US guests counter. Positive is our number one priority priority new CEO said In in the call. And you know they're they're getting people in they are. Although I get why it's a priority already. You know even though we see the positive comps and they're able to boost that ticket for two thousand nine thousand nine they did. They did see a slight decline in traffic. You mentioned mentioned the new CEO. I think that's also worth highlighting. McDonald's I mean this is a quarter we're referring to him as the new CEO. St I'm sorry because his name is harder to pronounce than Smith I'm GonNa let you take a crack at it. You'll probably get it right but I'm not one hundred percent sure that I'll pronounce it perfectly because because it is not Smith which is I think the only name I can confidently get right all the time Chris. Kempinski is the new CEO. And I think you're right. Yeah I wrote it down phonetically phonetically but worth pointing out that you know they put up. These numbers is a huge company. And they put up these numbers when in the middle of the quarter Steve easterbrook who had been from a business standpoint a successful CEO and certainly from a stock standpoint and he left suddenly and immediately and Credit to Kempinski and his lieutenants for having no time to ramp up as CEO l.. And pulling off this type of horror and we'll see if he can handle it just doesn't smoothly for the next couple of quarters. Yeah they're so so and there is a tendency to give probably my estimation too much credit to CEO Both positively the and negatively at times And we'll see whether McDonalds a an operation owes as much to Easterbrook as would have been thought the case you know this time last year he certainly did a great job and they're in a good position Right now what they're looking at is more for competition from places on breakfast which McCall's got too early while giving more competition to the the chicken sandwich phenomenon That Popeye's got to earlier than The McDonald's so they're rolling out a couple of new chicken sandwiches and they are. I think expecting more competition from Wendy's in the breakfast category so you know a little bit the getting To some competitions You you know. Both sides could and Brad from a headline standpoint starbucks first quarter report KINDA similar to McDonald's in the sense that profits came came in higher than expected they put up global same store sales growth of five percent. That was I think about a half percent higher than was expected and yet shares of starbucks down a couple percentage points and Maybe they're being more aggressive with their guidance. Since with respect to China but if they are it's probably because they need to be. Yeah I think this is where three three now on getting to China being a big part of of today's stories and It is the their fastest growing and I think second largest market and is a major major major contributor to the top and bottom line again when they're shutting down stores which they're doing closing They are losing that money that cash flow and they're not gonNA make it back despite our recommendation that if you have missed some coffee go ahead and drink more the next day right and make sure you're you're you're getting all the health benefits you can. I mean this is this is not make light of the situation but One thing that lives in listening to the Conference Call I. I felt like a little bit. The I thought the did a very good job of just going on again and again again about the partners Being what other places call employees starbucks calls partners and that the starbucks is success was all attributable to the partners and the a special relationships. And all that and and I'm going through as you have and will again the college experience and my feeling going to every single college and hearing their Spiel is what makes that place. Special is the people right and left and I got a little bit of that vibe was through the conference call which you don't typically quickly get There are many. CEO's that Talk about their third grade employees but starbucks is definitely a leader in that category. Oy I agree with that but I referenced. This the other day that I think that how companies doing business in China provide guidance in their earnings report. This quarter is something that bears watching more closely than usual and as a starbucks shareholder. I was happy with the guidance that they gave the clarity. You mentioned Kevin Johnson CEO. I'll also mention Pat Greece Murphy's the CFO just being very clear with analysts analysts about China about closings. Basically saying to the point that Kaminsky made with McDonald's look we're going to update our guidance for for the current quarter and the fiscal year as soon as we possibly can and they're also dealing in an environment where the the state government of China may not necessarily be giving them all the information they want. That is a very real possibility. And I think that that's I think that's to be respected. Yeah that would be consistent with. I think every bit of information that probably comes from the Chinese government but I think that On the whole so they had a great quarter and they in terms of their gardens. They didn't change their previous guidance. And on the conference call Pointed out what we would have been raising the guidance. If Not for China we would have been raising their question like how how much. I'm not going to answer that you know. I'll just say that we need. We're able to maintain our guidance because of the good start The first quarter and how well things are going outside outside of China and we still think we'll hit that guidance and it would have been you know possible to raise it but it's not possible to raise it today so I think that that is sort putting a cap on what the the ceiling of for this year is likely to be but it's a pretty strong floor. It is. I think if starbucks stock you don't own and it's on on your watchlist you are probably hoping that this corona virus thing goes on for another few weeks. You're you're looking at a bad person and then aren't you. Awful people are describing here. I'm not saying I want the death count to rise and I'm not saying that people have seen like I'm saying you do you just weren't saying other people think that way. Let's say you want the uncertainty out there a little bit longer. You WanNa cure sooner rather than later. But just the uncertainty because as the old adage goes the market hates uncertainty. You if you like starbucks at this price you'll like it even more if it's four dollars cheaper a share and Kevin Johnson see you know he was on CNBC this morning and one of the things he said. I hope he's right about this. Was He pointed out like look look twelve months from now this is. This is the comp we get to work against like. This is the same store sales report that we're going to be coming against a year from now and he's right about that. I mean the long term Obviously doesn't really change much and and it's just in a glorious business of serving something that is Legal and addictive and beyond that I and we joke about this but there here is a lot of science it has been stated as something which is consumed as much as it is believed. The second most consumed beverage behind. Water in the world It is important that it be assessed as to whether it's healthier not and there are a lot of studies which we talk about Because we like to see that given our respective amounts of coffee consumption and you know the the large weight is to their benefit benefit and that is a nice thing to have l. brands is the parent. Company of Victoria's secret and bath and body works and shares are up thirteen percent this morning on reports that Leslie Wexner. The founder and CEO is in talks to step down. Mr Wexner has been the CEO L. of L. Brands for the past fifty seven years. He is eighty two years old. And I think this speaks to to the belief certainly among some investors out there and maybe private equity as part of this that they look at. Victoria's Victoria's secret and bath and body works as brands. That have some staying power and if someone other than Mr Wexner is running the company. Then that's the value to be unlocked so I have discussed That if I were to be accorded one superpower it it would be the ability to leave at the right time that. That's I think you could. You could do a lot with that and that is not a superpower which he has because is this is a stock which was trading at one hundred In Twenty fifteen. It's going for twenty three after going up twelve percent today so his superpower or is longevity Not Not strictly you know other people have lived a longer than he has. Although he's off to a good start and Fifty seven years in the CEO is that's rare company incredibly rare company also. He's a billionaire so let's not bemoan any losses. He may have taken over the. I always thought about it a little bit. I know as easy to learn who lived and worked a whole life and and let's not just look at the the last couple of the Chapters from a stock perspective which setting up. He's in the Commerce club he's fire yeah And so you know up twelve percent on on the news. This is something that isn't entirely Unexpected I say that because I was reading Deutsche Bank report today from about three weeks ago which was speckling that now? This was three weeks ago. Was the time to buy following as disastrous a quarter as L.. Brands had I just reported because this was highly likely to lead to you know increased movement in terms of His departure or for some sort of break up and you know right now. Victoria's secret is expected to lose money this year. which is remarkable It's the bath and body works which is producing what little profits there are now And Victoria's secret has not gotten the Trans right at all For a while now and that has led to eighty percent of the the stock price being taken away and again there's brand equity they're They're still sort of a leader in their category. I was talking with Abby Malan. This morning she follows the retail industry pretty closely and When I asked her what do you think of this pop? She said yeah this it does make perfect sense someone in their more dynamic With more creative ideas particularly with respective Victoria secret. Yeah that's absolutely why this is happening Yes I mean they are behind on a number of issues and if we get into Talking about the specific. I'm sure we'll trip over the wrong thing but I was interested that For instance in the last quarter There were declines in casual sleepwear But there was growth sexy sleep and I didn't really know that that was an industry. Category but apple has their other products. Category Victoria secret. Make sense that they would break out into different categories as well do you. You got your sexy sleep in your casually examined So it's it's definitely not doing very well there Bath and body works still still still. They had a good Christmas season. Perhaps perhaps in part because of the Unicorn sprinkles candles. So you sent this to me right before we started recording and the profit margins as we've discussed in the past the profit margins on those twenty five dollars three wick. Nick candles have got to be pretty amazing and at that point at this point. I think anything's fair game. Once you've made some success with it as you said Bath and body works is getting it done for the parent company. So if you're in the candle division. Yeah you can pretty much throw whatever you want. Sweater weather short. Absolutely we've mocked the candle the names in the past and I think we're about to again but I went to the page age and the first page of candles. They've got hundreds of different since all sort of made sense like I could. I could say oh. That's a smell. I think think I recognize rather than the sweater weather and you know expensive romantic dinner or whatever but Unicorn Sprinkles I. I don't know where to begin on what that might smell like I. I'm assuming like sex Panther Cologne. It has bits of Real Unicorn in it. the fragrance. And now. I've looked it up fluffy cotton candy As first you're more hard cotton candy I Guess Rainbow Candy drops and triggered lemon with essential essential oils. So it smells like sugar. which is what Unicorn smell like? Apparently they nailed it. Well done and body works. Well L. Done Bill Barker. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me as always people on the program may have interesting. The stocks they talked about on the Motley fool may have formal recommendations for against cinnabar sell stocks based only. And what you hear. That's GonNa do it for this edition fluids shows mixed by Dan Boyd. I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Selling off Victorias Secret

Marketplace Morning Report with David Brancaccio

06:56 min | 1 year ago

Selling off Victorias Secret

"In a secret worth one point one billion dollars in New York. I'm Sabrina. Short in for David Brancaccio the parent. Company of Victoria's secret is selling control of the laundry brand in a one point. One billion dollar deal. According to multiple reports this morning parent company L. Brands is a public company. And the deal would take. Victoria'S SECRET PRIVATE MARKETPLACES JUSTIN. Who is following this? Just why is L. Brands? Trying to offload. Victoria's secret Victoria's secret is this brand. That dominated fashion and culture for years in like a lot of other mall chains. It's sales have been falling last quarter alone. Sales dropped twelve percents. The company's been closing stores L. Brand stock is down. Seventy three percents over the past five years and part of this is that decline of Malls. And you know the way retail is changing. But it's also the image. Victoria's secret promoted over the years you know. Think of the marketing the uniform any of its models. The fashion show which got cancelled last year more. Recently the companies made efforts look more inclusive. You know research shows consumers want that but other brands were quicker to modernize this way That's not the only problem. Victoria's secret is faced. Not Right. There was a big New York Times investigation. This year into the Culture Victoria secret. The report described bullying misogyny harassment within the company and a lot of criticism has centered on its CEO. Leslie wexner scrutiny. Over the culture. He presided over. And also his close ties to Jeffrey Epstein reports. Today say Wexner is expected to step down. Who's the buyer? What do we know about them? Well it's his private equity company called Sycamore Partners and it focuses on consumer and retail brands. Brands that are often troubled. The company owns staples in his pot up several other flagging mall chains in the past the limited arable stall even hot topic marketplace's Justin Ho. Thank you you're welcome Viacom. Cbs reports its earnings today. Why is that interesting? Well it's the first quarterly report since. Cbs Viacom became one. They merged back in December so investors have been wondering. How's that marriage going in particular? What's the plan for streaming? Cbs Viacom had existing individual streaming services. Vicompte CBS is expected to let people watch shows from both marketplace's Jasmine guards. Reports one potential problem with the new Viacom. Cbs offering it's going into battle without some of its big weapons. It's the best price ever buy. Yes okay Viacom sold streaming rights for South Park to Hbo Max last year and it sold Netflix. Some of the most popular nickelodeon characters for new shows. Neil Walker is an analyst with Morningstar. A does seem like a weird strategic. Move if you're going to move into the marketplace why are you selling one of your competitors one of the most valuable pieces of property and Viacom? Cbs streaming channel would still bring plenty to the table although CBS cop shows paramount. Pictures Movies like the Godfather and the Star Trek Franchise Aroon Sharma teaches marketing at the University of Miami. It doesn't matter that the late in the game. They have specific audiences which will try this services. He says if the content is good enough Viacom. Cbs will boldly go where lots of companies have already gone. I'm Jasmine Guard for marketplace. Let's take a look at the numbers. The footsie in London is up less than ten percent down. S and P and Nasdaq futures are down in the tenth percent range with the Dow future down. Thirty six points. The ten year Treasury yield is at one point two five five percent. President trump has often and repeatedly said his trade policies have raked in billions for the government and have not hurt the economy. Well the White House is chief economist. Tomas Philipson says actually uncertainty created by trade negotiations dampened investment. That is something. Many economists from universities to Wall Street have said is a given. Us consumers have been the ones to pay president. Trump's tariffs in the Federal Reserve estimates. The tariffs may have lowered. Us GDP growth by a percentage point now to what we call econ extra credits where we revisit basic economics on a weekly basis. Marketplace's David Brancaccio is reading a free. Econ One oh one textbook a chapter a week through April this week. The core ECON book uses the Beatles to make a point about unintended economic consequences. Here is David all you have to hear. Is this opening. Riff one two and you. This has gone. I'm into chapter in this context book where the focus is on making public policy more efficient more fair using economics policy like taxes which is where the beetles come in this league invoked ridden government in nineteen sixty six at a ninety five percent marginal tax rate called a super tax was for some limited types of unearned income for rich people. The taxpayer heaps five percent say the economics gap there is in part about. How public policy crafted wrong doesn't get the desired outcome so jazz? When the Brits were trying to raise revenue when you raise taxes super high it can sometimes incentivize affluent people to move money offshore which the Beatles tries thanks for the higher tax rate can make it cost effective to hire expensive tax accountants. It took a couple of years but the Beatles Eventually Setup Apple Corps Ltd which the book says let the Beatles pay corporate taxes that were lower than income taxes. 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Wall Street Breakfast February 20: Coronavirus Threat Prompts More China Stimulus

Wall Street Breakfast

07:13 min | 1 year ago

Wall Street Breakfast February 20: Coronavirus Threat Prompts More China Stimulus

"Welcome to ski health as Wall Street breakfast. Your daily source of market news and analysis. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple podcasts. Gulag cast certified and Stitcher. Good Morning. Today is Thursday February twentieth. And I'm your host. Steve Brown Wall Street breakfast is brought to you. By seeking Alpha premium. Unlock the power of seeking Alpha through our articles data and advanced tools. Try it today. At seeking Alpha Dot com slash premium. Our top stories today corona virus threat prompts more China's stimulus world's biggest shipper sees corona virus peak and fresh record highs leading today's news. The Shanghai Composite Index closed up one point eight percent lowered its benchmark lending rates overnight cutting into one year loan prime rate from four point fifteen percent to four point five percent and the five year rate from four point eighty percent to four point seventy five percent. The move follows the Central Bank's decision on Monday to lower interest rates on its one year medium-term lending facility funds the PBOC lends to financial institutions from three point. Twenty five percent to three point fifteen percent. The ten basis point reduction will help companies whether the damage from the corona virus at the margins said Julian Evans Richard Senior China economist at Consultancy Capital Economics. In other news over the last two and a half weeks we have seen a steady decline in the number of new corona virus cases and that is positive. Ap Maersk CEO Soren Schoo- told Bloomberg after soft Q. Four results. It means very well. We could be set for a peak within the next two weeks. He added if that were to be the case. Then we would expect a very weak march and a rebound in April a sharp rebound in April but there are still a lot of uncertainties out there. Markets continue to discount potential corona virus impacts on the belief that the virus will be largely controlled by the quarter end and as macro policy continues to loosen with China cutting benchmark lending rates. That's simply S. and P. Five hundred and Nasdaq to closing highs on Wednesday though stock index futures are now debating direction after itching between gains and losses overnight. The release of weekly jobless claims today will also give us a read on the health of the labor market while earning season continues with results from Domino's pizza buy com. Cbs dropbox and FITBIT THE FOMC. Viewed current stance of monetary policy as appropriate to support sustained expansion of economic activity strong labor market conditions and inflation returning to the Committee. Symmetric two percent objective. According to the minutes of it's January twenty eight th through twenty nine. Th meeting still uncertainties remain including those posed by the outbreak of the corona virus which warrants. Close watching the monetary policy setting committee also indicated. The Central Bank could slow at sixty billion per month pace of treasury-bill purchases in Q. Two and most fed officials were comfortable with this proposal. L. Brands is nearing a deal to sell control of Victoria's secret in a transaction that values the lingerie brand at about one point one billion dollars. The Wall Street Journal reports Private Equity Player. Sycamore partners is expected to buy fifty five percent of the struggling business and take it private while L. Brands will retain a forty five percent stake. That will include the pink chain alongside. L. Brands Chairman and CEO. Leslie Wexner the embattled billionaire who has run. The Retail Company for more than fifty years will step down from both roles but remain on the board the top dentist and public face of Smile. Direct Club is at risk of losing his California licensed following a two year state dental board investigation. According to records reviewed by Reuters shares closed down five point four percent to twelve dollars thirty seven cents following the news on Wednesday. The twenty four page complaint by the states. Ag Office Accuses Jerry. Soula Tsar of violating state law defrauding state dental regulators and acting with gross negligence towards patients. While helping the company grow its business. The DOJ has thrown its weight behind Oracle in a pivotal supreme. Court case against Google at issue was the way Google Use Java an android oracle argues the tech giant copied eleven thousand five hundred lines of its code more than ten years ago though Google posits it was legal under the fair use doctrine the entire case hinges. On whether it's possible to copyright API's and could have significant consequences as the high card ways the limit of copyright law in the Digital Age mgm resorts has confirmed the personal information of more than ten point. Six billion guests to have stayed at his hotels including celebrities and text does was published on a hacking forum earlier this week while the League files contained full names phone numbers addresses e mails and dates of birth. No financial payment card or password. Data was involved in this matter. Mgm HOTELS INCLUDE BLOOD YOU ARIA MGM. Grand Mandalay Bay Park Mgm Mirage. New York New York looks or and Excalibur in Las Vegas by creating a single European market for data the European Commission is hoping to pull the region expertise and challenge the dominance of Silicon Valley and China in artificial intelligence and technology. There's also a big focus on industrial data and the next wave of connected innovation via the so called Internet of things other elements of the commission's proposal included new rules covering cross-border data use data interoperability. Climate change the auto industry healthcare and Financial Services. A deputy little beating of us. Government officials will today will explore further restrictions on exports to Wa- way in China with some favouring tougher line and others more focused on prioritizing trade ties with Beijing. The gathering comes ahead of a cabinet level meeting scheduled for February. Twenty doubts have already swirled about whether the meetings would take place after. President trump on Tuesday blasted a proposal. That would have prevented companies from supplying jet engines and other components to China's aviation industry as of six twenty. Am today us. Futures are all set to open in the red with crude oil and gold slightly up on today's economic calendar initial jobless claims around at eight thirty A. M. Eastern Time Wall Street burqas brought to you by seeking Alpha premium. Unlock the power of seeking Alpha at seeking dot com slash premium. If you enjoyed today's podcast please be sure to rate and review it below. Your feedback is deeply appreciated. That concludes today's Wall Street riffraff. Thank you for listening for the best investment analysis and news on the Web Dot Com. Subscribe to this. Podcast ON APPLE PODCASTS. Podcasts spotify stitcher. You can sign up for other podcasts. Behind the idea essay therapies let's hope. Ups Cannabis Investing podcast and Marketplace Roundtable. Almost five as well have a great day.

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Skin in the Game

In the News with Mike Dakkak

22:10 min | 2 years ago

Skin in the Game

"Common sense commentary on politics culture and current events. If it's on your mind it's in the news and now in the news with your host. Mike dakkak jeffrey epstein has wound up dead the of course was being being held in a jail cell in new york city after being arrested last month on sex trafficking charges he was accused of sexually assaulting underage girls children listen and then paying them to recruit other girls to do the same kinds of things the charges stemmed from similar charges he faced in a case in palm beach florida back in two thousand and seven one of the many homes epstein owned was in palm beach florida yet homes all over the place. He got the sweetest of sweetheart deals in that case in florida over ten years ago. He served thirteen months eighty private wing of the palm beach county jail. He was facing life in prison. He was led out of the jail on a daily basis for work. Release up to twelve hours a day. He only slept in the jail. The person who signed off on that deal is a man named alex kosta. He was the u._s. Attorney in miami at the time a kosta when asked about the abnormally lenient plea deal he signed with epsteins lawyers reportedly said that he was told that epstein was above his pay grade that epstein belonged to intelligence and that he should quote leave it alone. He said this reportedly to trump transition officials back during during the presidential transition and twenty sixteen because the cost of was being interviewed for the secretary of labor position position he eventually got <hes> story was making headlines again in recent months because of great work done by a reporter from the miami herald by the name of julie brown. You should read some little pieces on the subject. They're really eye opening and there were rumors. Swirling around that epstein was kind of a high class bounty hunter that he helped governments track back down money stolen by african dictators and in some other cases helped african dictators hide money that they stole. We really don't know too much about that. What we do know is that epstein had all kinds of famous friends. Prince andrew bill clinton donald trump well. We're not sure exactly is why. The timing of course of epstein's death is also a little bit peculiar. He committed suicide apparently in his new york jail cell a day after documents were unsealed that named several famous people in his crimes one of his victims a woman by the name of virginia roberts godfrey free alleges that she was working as a masseuse in the private club owned by president trump mar-a-lago and palm beach in two thousand when she was approached by a longtime friend of epstein a woman by the name of jilin maxwell maxwell is a brit the daughter of publishing magnate robert maxwell well. She's a socialite comes. Money has a lot of famous friends. Including naturally british royals there are some reports that it was a maxwell that gave epstein kind of entree into the world of the rich and famous maxwell and epstein dated briefly in the early nineties remained close afterward. There were now a bunch reports that not only was maxwell a friend of epstein's but apparently she was kind of like a madam in this operation is that the right word here is the right function. Apparently she helped recruit young girls to take part in these activities so this woman guthrie says that she was approached by maxwell in two thousand awesome while she was working at mar-a-lago and she was told that she knew somebody that was looking for a traveling masseuse. That guy was apparently the epstein if the guy likes you it'll work out for you. You'll travel and you'll make good money. Guthrie says she was told guthrie says is that the massages with epstein often involved sexual acts and that led to her traveling with epstein. She says here's where it gets creepy right. Now you're probably thinking here. Here is where it gets creepy. She also alleges that she was told by epstein and maxwell to have sex with politically connected and wealthy people who were their friends or associates that list reportedly includes george mitchell former senator from maine bill richardson former governor of new mexico and energy energy secretary and nick clinton administration britain's prince andrew as well as another prince a foreign president a well known prime minister and the owner of a large hotel chain in france. I mean really disgusting stuff a day. After those documents are unsealed field epstein winds up dead now he had tried to hurt himself once before shortly after being arrested he was found injured and in a fetal position position in his jail cell with marks on his neck epstein had been on suicide watch since being taken into custody but apparently suicide watch now means authorities. Sit there and watch while you commit suicide. I mean i like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person although <hes> i'm always kind of conscious anxious of not letting the suspicions get too out of hand but in this case there are legitimate questions that need to be asked and answered when a patient is on suicide watch it means. They are under observation usually around the clock. It can mean that all dangerous items are taken from them. Shoelaces belts bras was bedsheets. Anything that can be fastened into a news they can be placed rooms that have no protrusion from the wall such as close hooks or door closing brackets anything they can hang themselves from but that's just the thing we now know that epstein after being found with marks on his neck apparently self inflicted and was taken off of suicide watch and the subsequent weeks now. How is it exactly that such a high profile prisoner could have had enough time to to do this to themselves while when you're not on suicide watch your checked on once every half hour plenty of time to hang yourself if you want to. It's being reported that epstein hung himself off president trump who was close with epstein at one point says the two had a falling out and had spoken in years. There are rumours that the two who competed for the same real estate purchase and palm beach several years ago and that epstein one out. We really don't have much to go on there. There were also rumors is that former president bill clinton traveled on epsteins plane more than once several years ago in the early. Two thousands clinton's office said the trips were to asia asia europe and africa and that they were connected to work on the clinton foundation. The clintons philanthropic organization epstein was also tied to billionaire billionaire leslie wexner. Wexner is the owner of l. brands. The parent company of retail chains like victoria's secret and bath and body works. Apparently merrily epstein was a trustee of several of wexner charitable trusts in the late nineties and early two thousands wexler says that it was found that epstein eighteen embezzled forty five million dollars of his money forty six million dollars of his money actually that embezzlement was found after wexner cut ties with epstein. He says he cut ties with epstein. After it became public in two thousand and seven that epstein was accused of these crimes but wexner apparently never tried to recoup that money in any way never sued as far as we know didn't go to the police or any other authorities epstein also came to own a manhattan townhouse else that was once owned by wexner. It's a seven floor twenty one thousand square foot mansion. It's been called. One of the city's largest homes wexner bought the property operative in nineteen eighty nine for thirteen point two million dollars. Reportedly epstein had been claiming the home was his for years but property records show show that the ownership of the property was not officially transferred until december two thousand eleven years after a wexner says he cut ties with epstein. There are also no records of money being exchanged in that transaction all very weird stuff. I mean wexner for example might be filthy rich but he's i'm rich enough not to care about tens of millions of dollars that epstein embezzled or otherwise found their way to his coffers seems a lot of people from all different walks of life and for all different reasons here seemed to be invested or otherwise have a role to play in this epstein story. We'll stay tuned on that as the developments continue and you to trickle out here something else that has made headlines. This week is the fact that president trump's immigration rates have finally begun. There was a lot of talk doc. During the campaign of a a deportation force you remember this that trump would form that would be bringing people out of the country. A lot of people mocked it. Perhaps is rightfully. So what would it look like. How much would it cost. Would americans tolerate seeing people rounded up and put on buses and removed from the country. Well it turns out. The answer to that question. So far seems to be yes last week. Immigration and customs enforcement officials targeted a couple. I love poultry. Processing plants mississippi say that five times fast that were employing illegal immigrants nearly seven hundred people believed to be here l. legally. You were rounded up and detained in the rates. Are there seems to be some debate as to what to call these operations the the acting customs and border patrol hedmark morgan took exception to calling them rates. He said they are not raids. They are targeted law enforcement operations. I'm not exactly sure what the differences insist and i'm not exactly sure why the raid is bad. If that is what morgan is implying year fits arrayed and call it a raid will call them that unless and until there are more compelling helling reasons not to some seven hundred people were rounded up and had their papers checked in these rates. Many of them were found not to have proper paperwork in other words. Their papers were not authentic. Authorities said that in many cases the individuals names were real but they had used fake documents wants to get hired. The owner of the plants is a chinese man from california according to authorities and they say that he didn't do proper due diligence one hiring these individuals state regulations in mississippi require employers to use e verify a federal electronic system awesome that verifies individuals are authorized to work in the u._s. Many of the individuals were subsequently released. I think some <hes> three hundred were released within twenty four hours of there being taken into custody. Many of them were outfitted with g._p._s. Ankle bracelets and were latte to go back to their homes while their immigration proceedings continued. Many of these individuals were parents who are separated from their children because of these arrests yes. There were not with their children. At the time they were arrested. It was actually the first day of school on that day in mississippi so the children were at school but a lot of those children came home to empty houses in empty homes because their parents were in custody. It breaks your heart to see these children who are scared and confused simply not knowing what's what's going to happen next. You're just not sure what can be done about it. No one's happy seeing kids put in cages or separated from their parents or guardians. Radian are having anyone put in cages for that matter but people who are here illegally in half false documents allowing them to work half to leave don't they and by the way we're building towards something here. I mean a couple of months ago. You had the president go on social media with kind of a bullhorn on social media eighty on twitter and announced that raise would be happening all over the country then he called them off and said he was giving congress two weeks to find the solution on the immigration problem. You could have given them two years and they weren't going to find the solution on the immigration problem and we all knew that even the president probably then a couple two weeks later the president again announced that the raids would take place and they kind of took place in fits and starts in some places most notably there were some areas in new york city where ice enforcement actions had begun but those rates were rebuffed and when residents in those particular communities demanded soc- warrants from the officers and the officers could not produce them they took place in predominantly latino asian enclaves in the outer boroughs of new york city eighty and then all of a sudden and mississippi you have some seven hundred people actually rounded up and then outfitted with g._p._s. anklets and released while their immigration cases go on i mean these are all warning shots aren't they. This is the president telling folks. Hey this deportation stuff is actually actually going to happen. Maybe it's best if you go ahead and leave on your own volition. You might want to leave before we kick you out. It also may be a signal to the people who are thinking about coming here illegally. We don't care how long you here. If you come illegally eventually we're going to figure it out. We're gonna find you and you're going to have to go. I mean the president says much in comments last week. After the raids i want people to know that if they come into the united states illegally they're going to brought out and this serves as a very good deterrent is right isn't he. He also said when people see what they saw. Yesterday he was talking about the raids aides in mississippi and like what they'll see for a long time another signal that these are going to continue. They know they are not staying here. The president said that's so far seems to be the point. The send a message that you may get in but you're not going to stay any work that you do or any roots that you put down in. The community are only going to be temporary. If you come any legally eventually you're going to have to leave. I'm not sure there is a more effective determine the net they're always going to be people who ignore the rules because they have to or because that's just what they want to do but a significant portion of people are going to think twice about making the trip year or coming in legally if they feel that it's only going to be a matter of time before they have to leave. People's attitudes towards sneaking into the country are going to be vastly different if they know they're only going to be visiting of course it. Puts puts us in a particular bind because we're otherwise going to have to deal with crying. Babies and children separated from their parents. We don't wanna be unnecessarily. Cruel cruelty is the point as writer. Adam server said well. No the cruelty should not be the point otherwise. We're in the wrong but you really don't know what else to do. I mean the people who are here. Illegally have to leave and how are they going to be asked to leave unless they are apprehended. Perhaps we should be keeping families together but then we're locking up children as well you think the mainstream media or democrats are going to give this administration pass if that happens the narrative is is not going to be well. At least they're keeping families together. The narrative is going to be well. These are interment camps like where the u._s. Held japanese americans during world war two by the way that was not the brightest spot in this country sister. They say what kind of a nation are we becoming. We're becoming a nation of laws as we were founded as as we were always intended to be the truth is democrats want to legalize illegal immigration. That's what this is all about. I mean there's a flood of immigrants coming across the the border. Some are seeking asylum but others are just trying to sneak in and instead of concentrating on how to secure borders and also attain gene emmigration goals legally through the codification of law. They're concentrating on how we're not supplying illegal immigrants with adequate levels of chiampou and whatnot they want open borders not just with mexico but with every country they want to erase national borders. They want to erase national identity. They wanna race religion the only thing they want to remain as liberal culture permissive culture but the only people that truly benefits while they're not people they're entities are corporations operations. Maybe corporations are people too as an has mitt romney believes but now the only entities benefit from a system like that or corporations the money monied interests and of course in this country the democratic party. I mean if you're one of the eleven million undocumented people living here and or a newly-arrived arrived illegal immigrant and one party wants to give you citizenship and health care and full rights and the other party wants you to leave and won't even give you two brothers. Who are you going to the vote for you and i would become lifelong democrats as well and the trump administration is partly to blame for this too. I mean if they were really serious about stopping illegal immigration they wouldn't go after the poor migrants who are beleaguered and destitute and desperate for a better life they'd go after the corporations that are exploiting them the big business that survives of cheap labor corporation say americans won't do these jobs now. They just won't do them at these prices. That's where nobody nobody wants to talk about this plant owner in mississippi that employed hundreds of illegal immigrants with fake papers knowingly by the way and now appears. He's not being charged at all in this operation but what if the d._o._j. Find him a thousand dollars for every one of these infractions. How many illegal legal immigrants would he still employ. After this week i mean it'd be so hard to get a job there you. You'd probably have to prove your the cendant from people who came here on the mayflower before higher you which is the point illegal immigration could end tomorrow if they will turn off. The magnet causes people to come here illegally but no no one wants to do that. Meanwhile you've got people who are so fed up with the current situation and all the inaction and just the injustice of it all on all besides that there are going out there and targeting people with violence mean. Is that going to end positively if these problems aren't addressed things are going to get much worse before they get better. They're going to get worse before they get even worse as maybe a more accurate way to put it and you're already starting to see republicans in the president. Do the you know the potomac two step on the violence issue in the wake of the el paso shooting a couple of weeks ago. The president came out very forcefully and said we're going to take a look at universal universal background checks wayne lapierre's the head of the n._r._a. Called trump up a couple of days later and said something like that would upset the n._r._a. In its members news and you never heard the president mentioned again well. He mentioned it to be a hundred percent accurate but didn't seem to be leaning into it as much anymore so the president said we're doing background checks and the n._r._a. Said actually no. We're not and you know what we probably won't and instead. We're talking about video games and and by the way background checks thanks a lot of that discussion seems to be a little bit <hes> misdirected because if you go back can you analyze a lot of the mass shootings and our recent history what you find minded that a lot of the assailants have actually passed background checks so that in and of itself would not be a catchall to a lot of these tragedies that occur but instead. We're talking about video games which you know. I'm actually glad to see video. Games are part of the problem that line of debate is being widely mocked in the wake of the most recent violence in the country but wrongfully in my opinion. People say other countries have video games but they don't have this level violence. Will that's true what other countries i don't have. However is the toxic stew of political dysfunction isolation social loneliness ignorance of mental illness as a serious issue video games and access to guns. It's all part of it if we're going to ask and our members to give up some gun rights it's why can't we ask others to tone down some of the violence in the video games they produce or sell or otherwise profit from no one wants to sacrifice vice so nothing gets done meanwhile the spiral continues downward. Everyone needs to put some skin in the game and we're gonna wind up losing all of our skins. That's that's our show for today. Hope you enjoyed it. You have any comments on any of the issues that we discussed disgust. Drop me a line comments at i._t._n. Show dot com. That's comments at i._t._n. Show dot com and remember to keep up with in the news on twitter and on facebook at i t. n. Show that's not an show one word for listening everyone till next time take care. If it's on your mind mind it's in the news subscribed to end the news on both i tunes and on stitcher radio. This has been in the news <music>.

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Pay the Olsen Twins

Pop Fashion

31:58 min | 2 years ago

Pay the Olsen Twins

"Hey guys this is. This is karen hotak. Welcome back yard nice town and relax your vaca- yeah i came came back from six days on the beach with no out of control sunburn. Which is i from me bravo. I have zero days with a margin of error error so that's impressive. Did you use a new type of solution or were you just on top of it is on top of it and also i didn't use any spray sunscreen. I had had to like lather up with my hands so i feel like there's an added layer of awareness when you actually put it on your body yourself yes ma'am. It's not glamorous but it works t._m. My that's my p._s._a. About wearing some so yeah <hes> it was it was good. I came back. I had zero complaints in our inbox about our current format so look. Everything's great good good. Thanks for hanging with us. Everybody as we try some new things we appreciate it now. I want to do an amendment to that. Thank you for not complaining. Yes so while i came back to like little to no complaints in general about life from anyone the retail sector just sort of imploded. Is that what happened opens. Am i getting that correctly and big and small ways lisa. The most pressing topic right now is barney's. They filed. It's not a huge surprise is we've been talking about this coming for a couple of weeks so that's not the big surprise really what happened within the chapter. Eleven filings is what's surprising zang so let's talk about it a little bit. It's closing stores here. The store is closing stores in chicago. Los angeles and seattle five concept concept stores seven barney's warehouse locations. Some of their locations will stay open including the madison avenue you store in new york. It store in beverly hills san francisco and boston and also to barney warehouses will remain open so it's not disappearing during completely is just shutting down a number of locations. It also secured seventy five million dollars in new capital so what this means is barney's. He's not one hundred percent done. They are filing chapter eleven so they can get their house in order and also they have a little bit of cash to see if they could prop themselves up a bit but they do oh money all around town the good thing about when you see a court filing like a chapter eleven is like companies that are private companies like barneys. We don't know how they've been doing financially. We have no idea because they don't have to do earnings. If you're public company oh you do we haven't known for forever. What's going on with this company well. Let's talk about some people they owe money to. They are are in debt to a number of luxury apparel companies a number of designers. Would you like to guess the number one designer. They own money to tom ford good gas but no or do you want one more gas. No so who so who does barney's though the most money to the row oh the most money to the twins <hes> <hes> you don't disrespect respect them like that. They owe three point seven million dollars to the olsen twins. Is this why the twins never smile now. They took away all their smoke in money. They can't buy anymore cigarettes. They are so sad at tired. Dammit here's some other people they owe money to selene two point seven million y._s._l. Two point one million balenciaga two point one giovanni one point nine and it just keeps going. I mean they owe money money to everybody. Wow which is what happens in these things. Bankruptcies are just no fun. I don't like it that smaller designers to some of the big guys. I understand stand. They could take a hit but some of the smaller designers like. I worry because that income directly effects like can they have another season so i'm interested to see some of the fallout out that we may not be anticipating right this second. You know i know they're keeping the madison avenue store but i would not be surprised if they shrank that footprint a little bit yeah well and a lot of the commentary about what's going on with them as most people think that they're going to carry on and one former number. It's kind of like this thing isn't done. We just think they need to get their house in order because they're so connick and i don't know if relying on that status is enough to push them forward but maybe closing that many stores will help them in subway so they can just kind of reorganize. I know that we got us suggestion on what we should pour out for this particular retailer going into bankruptcy. Would you like to state that drink. Oh yeah we did some melissa road in and she also sent in a question which i'm going to bump it to this segment because it's related to barney's but her recommendation to poor went out was perrier zhou et which which is fancy champagne for those of you who are like what the fuck <hes> and the the type of champagne is the bella pock bottle which you will. We'll recognize on the shelf. It is a very fancy looking champagne bottle with like painted flowers on it <hes> and just because of the fact that i had to look at how to pronounce every single one of those four words communicate how appropriate is for this occasion so melissa thank you for that but she also had a really good question and at the time so this letters a couple weeks old now and i responded to melissa right away with my gut reaction well before barney's actually filed for bankruptcy so here's a question she says ladies thanks for the show and i hope you are enjoying some extra time to yourselves this summer. I'll be quick was the timeline for barneys imminent demise. Am i okay to preorder an item scheduled for delivery in november. I've done an exhaustive search. This item isn't available anywhere else but i don't want to tie up discretionary funds if the retailer will fold not sure if i could even file a credit card dispute four months later if they don't deliver the merchandise but failed to refund purchase so at the time before i knew how much money barnes owed everyone i said to melissa you're gonna be fine to preorder because when companies file for bankruptcy it's very aware that they immediately shut all the doors <hes> so the odds are very good that barney's will still have these stores open in november even though it's going to be a smaller footprint sprint but based on what you just told me. Melissa preorder was any one of those brands. We just mentioned you might oh cancel. I wouldn't do a girl. I'm sorry i know i do have faith in this brand but can happen between now and november yeah but it. It's a question that i have never even thought of before right you know. It's like if you're someone who's looking ahead and no there's going to be competition for something. That's coming out. It's something then you can't get any anywhere and he store. Do you take a risk on a company. That's really scary financial flooding and hope you get the thing you want or do you dislike go without it and hobie find it. This set of questions was happening right around the time that david's bridal was filing because people or like if i go in and trust that i can find something there. Will it be available months later. I for lots of people everything kind of worked out which is great <hes>. I think it depends probably on price point for me. Honestly i would probably not do it. That's just me and my personal opinion and but i told melissa two weeks ago three weeks ago probably to go ahead and order so melissa. I still don't want any complaints. I just want to make the like for this purchase but cancel that you may want to because i'd rather have that money in your pocket and have you're not have the thing you know so just food for thought for those of you who are examining the financial health of the brands that you shop yeah. Oh i hate that. We have to do this as kind of guessing game right. I don't like it. Oh i guess i should tell you bad news now. I'm sitting here like tell us. Another story in kearns like it is your turn youthful. Where do i even start with victoria. Secret secret vicky hush the brand that just won't give out the little fuck up that could to worry the secret chief marketing officer ed razek. Isaac is finally taking the him and leaving. The official statement says that he's retiring. If you've blocked it out of your memory razzak is the one who told vogue last fall all that to paraphrase plus size and trans models shouldn't walk the company's annual televised runway show because they don't contribute to the fantasy that that show provides why was he not fired right then and there meanwhile the news of raza retirement came the same day that victoria secret let the news news get out that it had hired its first ever transgender model down tina some pyo who will work with pink line and the news came just a week after victoria tori secret announced that it had finally cancelled its runway show altogether to cap things <hes> well. This is the penultimate cap. There are two caps to this to get the things off. Victoria secret is struggling with bad press because the c._e._o. Of the parent company l. brands leslie wexner goes way back with accused first child sex trafficker jeffrey epstein right so things aren't looking good there and then right before recorded this episode on august sixth. One hundred models signed a letter to victoria's secret c._e._o. Asking the company to protect contractors. I e the models against sexual misconduct. The siamese of this letter include christy turlington burns also includes former editor in chief of glamour. You're just dozens of models who are saying enough is enough and they wrote this letter really in response to this news that has come out about wexner is relationship with epstein and also there have been reports of photographers that have sexually abused models and aspiring models <hes> and so they're bonding together and speaking out about this and demanding answers. It's a day of reckoning vicky hush-hush to reckon and let me tell you we are not financial advisers on this show but i'm going to give you a personal test. If you have any stock in this company it is time to drop it. It is time to get out. You are going to lose money. I'm sure but you've got to get out now. Bath and body works is carrying them right now. Now you know what that that's sweet piece and cannot flow a whole company. Get get out get out now. I mean retail stock is crazy right now. Anyway i mean come on. I was thinking i was looking at some some stock quotes today and just thinking about brand. If i have their stock i would just like dump it like dump them all. Just get out you. A better use of your money is is taking your change hanes and throwing it at somebody's head because at least you'd get a laugh i least it'd be kind of fun and if you're gonna choose someone to do that too. I can suggest some <hes> old guys at the secret who were named previously. They need to completely clean house. This is a start but they need to completely clean house in order to rectify this thing like you know the people who bring a broom new a baseball game even though you're not allowed to bring brooms to a baseball game but they do it somehow they get them in into emphasize the sweep one team is doing so bad against the other that they just they've got the room. They're ready to sweep them out. Can you sweep out to tidy. Maybe up your company. And how do you get the broom into the stadium because it explicitly says no brooms but okay. That's a whole different issue. What what did you think the ven diagram of people who bring brooms to the stadium to people who actually use said brooms and their household oh at the the circles don't connect you get a new broom a clean one that lives in your car and you bring to the stadium. I see i see because obviously really. I mean if you took the from home. How would your wife and children be able to use it while you're out of the car. You said it not me. You know i mean i gotta let the men have their fun right. In the sporting world. A woman never brings up room to the stadium. I watch enough baseball. I would know how women don't bring brooms. It says on the list. You can't bring it you coming in hot on brooms today. Lisa those are some strong words from podcast but hot takes takes on this fashion. Podcast has a little bit of sports in it a little too much for cards. Let's counterbalance this by talk about jessica simpson said heck. Yes bring it jessica simpson. My heart in two thousand loves you still jessica. Alaska simpson launched a new active wear collection. She has partnered with fam- brands to produce athlete leisurewear as part of her lifestyle brand. The collection will include leggings sports bras t shirts tank tops and sweatshirts. It's going to be available in the spring of twenty twenty. It will be available on our website and macy's dillard's bulk and norstrom prices range from thirty five to sixty five dollars. Why am i talking about jessica simpson and on said fashion podcast because she's made a shit ton of money off of apparel her company as of a few years go was a billion dollar corporation. Do you know how many popular brands we have in this country who have not even gotten close to be billion dollar all companies. This woman sells clothes. She makes so much money selling clothes. Her company was purchased and twenty fifteen via sequential. Oh brands group. The fashion world has never really taken her seriously back where she started putting out a peril in two thousand five and a mentor said of her fashion venture sure quote consumers aren't dumb. The consumer who is really interested in fashion is sophisticated. She will take a marc jacobs over jessica simpson jason every time rude and rude and guess he was laughing. All the way to the bank rich asked jessica simpson. Her stuff enough is good. That's the thing i like what she produces. It's solid solid. It's really solid. Where's it sold. I feel like she's at kohl's. It sounds like she's going to be at most department stores at least most department stores that may still be open and spring of twenty twenty. I'm sorry i'm i'm thinking about her her current stuff and stuff. You know it's so funny because i haven't. I haven't seen it in a little while and it's not doesn't mean it's not out. There is just that i haven't been in a kohl's last time i was there. I think i saw her shoes. I remember seeing that but she's been laying low like. I haven't really heard a lot of marketing marketing news about her for a couple of years as possible because she's just had a couple of kids. Maybe production pulled back. I'm not really sure girlfriends earn that passive income income while she raises her kids. I like this. The fashion world may wanna start taking her seriously because she knows what she's doing. I wonder if her graph leisure line will be a competitor to fab latics great question. I thought about that too because the same price point right yup and they're both run by blond ladies and yet that's kind of where the similarities stop but mm-hmm yeah real tenuous connection there in my train of thought but you the mind goes where the money goes. You're going to meditate on that. Fasching is my favorites jacked udayana time it is time for my favorite kind of crime financial crime conspiracy crime the non murder kind ebay. You know what there's enough murder podcast. We're just gonna be like the last murder podcast. The fewer murders take place here. Podcast august fewer murders podcast dot com not great winter so here's who's su anhil ebay is suing amazon for alleged conspiracy to steal high volume sellers from its platform through ebays user messaging system. This is according to the new york times. Ebay says the amazon managers directed dozens of workers to illegally use ebays private messaging system to solicit sellers to sell instead on amazon ebay raise concerns last fall and that lawsuit moved to arbitration. This new lawsuit has ebay claiming that the effort was not just the few employees but a larger effort within amazon with managers giving lower level employees lists of ebay sellers to target oh dang own. The suit claims that amazon has violated the racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act aka rico. It's your favorite lisa. It's your favorite one of my favorite pieces of american legislation. Okay here's how rico works for those of you who oh haven't read up on it like me mertz. If you have committed to acts of racketeering activity from a list of thirty five crimes you can get hit with rico now. Find up to twenty five thousand dollars cents to twenty years in prison per count and you have to give up the money you earned within the racketeering scam racketeering during activities include fraud embezzlement money laundering bribery murder-for-hire copyright infringement. You know all the juicy ones. It's like the endless soup and bread sticks and salad at that's what we go is to me enough about opne. Though amazon com new york times on the lawsuit the times article notes that ninety percent of ebay sales are made at a fixed price instead instead of the auction format. They were so famous for years ago and more than half of amazon sales are for products sold by third party sellers. There's so there's a lot of overlap between what ebay does and what amazon does these days ebays complaint centers on the use of its private messaging system which is is intended messaging says communications between buyers and sellers ebay prohibits the use of that system to solicit sellers or to share contact information for communicating by phone email but the suit says the amazon managers told staff members how to set up and use ebay member accounts for the purpose of soliciting quote many hundreds of ebay sellers to sell on amazon platform unquote. Here's the other sneaky thing about this case and works in favor of amazon ebay terms of use states that if you have an account eve agreed to sign up and you have a dispute with the company any you can't sue and go to court no no bitches now you have to arbitration arbitration solve the problem with a mediator instead of having injury so when i complained about this in the fall they sued amazon petition to have it moved to arbitration because the messaging center is used by customers who have signed the terms and conditions. Lee said they're evil but they're smart right so this new lawsuit had to specify that this is a larger concerted effort that was organized and seen through by managers which is why they are going for rico. Why why is it amazon just hire some a group like private detectives where they could have contacted the sellers through other means. I mean it's not hard to track down. People these days like instead have gone through the messaging system. You could take two or three more steps and like found their email or just even guest at half the you know or at least go to the effort of hiring like an outside contractor to do this to have a couple of layers between like your staff and this paper trail right look. If you're going to commit a crime do it correctly okay ever melissa just a free tip from me to all of you. If you're gonna do you this cover your fucking tracks. I don't blame like i think people can be poached from anything. If you see a better deal on another platform you go go for it. Why don't we use the internal messaging system. This is just proof that nobody reads the terms and conditions agreement. When you sign up for a website well of of course they make them so amazingly broad. That's part of it too. It's like you have no other option and like just as a seller. What else are you going to do if you had a serious problem with them. They've got you over barrel right they do. I mean you are at their whims. That's why like if i sign paperwork to go to a new doctor and you're like do you agree. Read all these things. I'm like well. I guess so otherwise. I'm just going to bleed out right now right. What am i gonna do not get healthcare. I guess i'll do it. S s. I don't wanna die today but if i don't read this paperwork i may let's like on you can't win. You can't but look. I don't take sides rides and whatever i do take sides. I don't have to be partial. I don't have to be impartial on this podcast. I'm not a journalist on this particular show and totally rooting for eating here just on the grounds of conspiracy. That's the end of our fashion news moving dealers letter. Yeah here is connote from allison. Who says hi franz long time listener first-time writer atlanta once i found the perfect likings spur pilates. I never looked back there. Highways and the band doesn't roll down also they're thick so that they a everything in and be aren't transparent. When i stretch the band wow light dig no name. She says they were great for me. They have pockets which didn't make sense to me as i only wear them to class but if you want to wear them for daily life i get the pockets might be helpful. I've worn tons of leggings over the years and the athletic ones are at the top of my list. I find the fit to be true to size size and good quality. It's important to find the ones that work for you. They have a number of different styles and also purchased atlanta items on ebay threat up and posh mark with with leggings or swim bottoms. There's are awesome. I will only buy them if they are new with tags but i've purchased other non pan athletic items from a second hand market. There's plenty of athletic in resale environments so that's from alison. Thank you awesome for that rave review and in addition. We got a tweet deep from rebecca. Who said she heard recently. That athletic offers free hems ooh. I had no idea so i remember lululemon. Does this and i know uniqlo. Does this made well made. While does this athletic does this. Do we know of anyone else off the top of our heads that does free hems. I don't know if nordstrom free or not. Oh nordstrom i believe is free yeah and they have someone in house who like like like their taylor. Is there all the time that's amazing. If you ever have a chance for free just go for it. Take the ten minutes just do it. Take it and you can get your pants in like three to five days so great lease at this letter answered all of your questions from last time well. The first thing you said is i bet if somebody finds finds a pair of fat leisure pats. They stick to the brand. That was your gas because yeah because people don't wanna try them on. What's he find that they a product that you really love. Have you want to stick with it. So that's one thing you said and the second one was the second part two was you had questions about if there were the resale market which is obviously found product art on so thank you for answering those questions those really informative. I love it. This is the intel i like to see. I hadn't thought about the new with tags thing on l. Like i think about about swimsuits sometimes but pants is interesting but i mean leggings. Get beat up like they're up in your crotch. Let's let's just be real and they take a beating in terms of the kind of activity. You're doing if you're running. If you're biking. They're just getting a lot of wear on the fabric so i i can understand that mindset. I'm not quite as strict but i also. I'm a little more on the leisure side of athletes better well. Some people would just like to say can i have breath death leisurewear without the swamp and that's how they get it new with tags. That's why yeah yeah. Swamp past pre swamp ass. Take your pick. If there's going to be anyone. Swamp bassoon should be my own is kind of the theory there. I think personal preference and are beautiful. Resale market allows you to have those preferences. I love it love it. Oh my god oh my god also b._t. Dubs i saw a golf bag in the airport the other day and i really wanted to like talk to the owner of it but then i noticed that she seemed to have like a germ like a typically kind of germ. No girl stay away. I couldn't touch i couldn't i couldn't even look at her. Luxury is not worth it. She was in the next switch switch back. I had to move on so i admire her bag. From apar- i like the idea of us when we see it out in the world we do something say hello to the person or not to the person or take a drink drink up there. I kind of liked that. Take a drink of some emergency after being near her <hes> i mean maybe we need a secret handshake secret signal about signal how whoever's holding it just flashes you a couple of hundred like yes. I can't afford it. Yes i see i want it. I don't know the rest of those words this week. If you would like to get in touch with us or to pop fashion podcasts dot com you can write us a letter or listen to old the episodes you can find on twitter at just pop fashion or over on instagram at pop fashion podcast leave. What do you want this week. Well related to chugging emergency. <hes> as you may know i just recently returned from my week trip with my family that i take every year with two young children and a bunch of adults who spend too much time together during that week and every year there's like some sort of calamity like like there was the year my nephew to go to urgent care. <hes> there was the year that my brother-in-law's glasses ended up living in a pineapple under the sea a- and last year you may recall that <hes> i came down with tonsillitis better known as tinder mouth. Ah it's a phrase and trying to make work so feel free to call it tender mouth when you get sick after you start online dating tender immune system can't handle it you get tender mouth as a kind of like foot in mouth disease no no it's not like that at all. It's more like ma. I think like mono. Oh i see i see tender mouth. Yeah yeah germs in your mouth anyway. I got through the whole trip without an illness. Everyone was in one piece. Nobody got. Nobody had to go to urgent care. We were free of calamity for an entire seven days as a family of sex and if i've learned one thing on this show over the past five and a half years is that health should not be taken for granted can be fleeting be hard to get back back preach and is one of those things where when you're healthy you don't notice it you just go about your day and i just wanna take a moment to be grateful grateful for the good health shared on this trip because it was the rare occasion that we were all in good health. That's amazing. That's really cool actually yeah yeah but tinder mouth use it with your friends and hashtag it. I want it to go viral. I wanna be famous for this lisa. Never give up on your dreams. Would you like to share a one one good thing. It just might be the right. Is your long thing that you learned with tender. Mouth is is my one good. Thing is a book. It is called my lovely wife. It is by samantha downing now. Oh you got to know your own mind to know if you are ready to read this book. I am not kidding you. This is a dark book. Not everyone one is gonna like it know thyself. Will you like this. It is about a husband wife team that are serial killers. It is fiction and it is his bat shit bonkers people. This is a crazy book fictional story about this husband and wife team. They kill people. It is insane now. Can you say the title again. I'm writing my lovely wife. The reason why i'm recommending this book is because what's the last book that made me feel this way was gone girl and it's an intense book in all seriousness. It has some dark spots that are pretty awful so be careful if you're not in the head space or if it's just not your back that's completely okay but if you like that kind of gone girl insanity sanity. This is probably a great book for yell. It is twisted. It is frightening and i could not put it down but i mean for those those of us who are sick in the head and loved the americans on f._x. It sounds like the perfect number read. It is a great summer read because you just want to keep on going and it has an amazing last sentence. Ooh i need another book to read like i need another hole in my head but i'm up at this. It was a lot of fun so you guys have a good week this week. Thanks for listening to us so we'll talk to goodbye both back.

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342 - The Cuts Stay In The Podcast (8/20/19)

Chapo Trap House

1:06:17 hr | 2 years ago

342 - The Cuts Stay In The Podcast (8/20/19)

"The talking about the virgils questions at tulsi and they were like in twenty one thousand nine hundred. How is it possible. It just shop it. Just doesn't have audio supposed question and answer and i was like sorry we only have video end to audio of this exchange so look for that yeah. I'm uh-huh. I'm so glad virgils like just all the people who are like youtube signing the amount of likes i have. I'm so glad it's my greatest dream. Come true. That's what celsius therefore to absorb absorb all the crank energy like she'll. I told matt about it but uh i had a substitute yoga teacher came in instead of my like tiny any little muscular malaysian woman there is this robust like very like hot blonde woman in our thirties and i'm like okay so she starts up the class and all the sudden this malicious lewis minnesota accent comes through and she just like welcome to restorative yoga. There's no we're going to focus today on a fluid santa and building our breath and course drink and whatever is comfortable for you do that so today today. We're going to set our intention and i was. I couldn't pay attention. I was completely distracted and everyone else was acting like it was normal and i was just looking around like no one else hearing this. It's one of the most jarring american accents because it's just so fucking canadian also just don't expect to find an fucking brooklyn yoga studios. She's okay so when when you're in a playing position you want your elbows to bend towards your feet before transitioning into downward dog and it was like i was there for it but honestly it was more distracting than anything anyway. I found your wife and she's she does yoga. She's hell alaw. She's all she's all lean muscle. You get the you get the impression that you'd have wrestling gator. Do wanna know why she left minnesota. Come here i do to i want to know everything about her. Her could both have a conversation on that subject. I okay it's very obvious why i came here. I couldn't get a real job yeah. You can't get a real job. Stop trying felix. Actually i need to get your your comments on this. While you're in iowa at the state fair and just the state in general i think <hes> can i just say something real quick eco fort in this day and age with the american dream feeling more like an american nightmare. It feels more like the iowa state unfair. Damn nevermind you're not good enough for my yoga yeah well. No i wanted to get your comment on the fact that both the state fair the des moines register and just generally the people of iowa have adopted the phrase iowa nice to describe. Yeah okay and i'm wondering how you feel about that. Well okay so there are like that is like my favorite who just one of those interchangeable changeable guys. We read every other week like it was like i was surprised at how max boot max boot was president people in iowa and beat my ass. Throw my underwear so harvest. The bled usually happens to me but it's not nice people like anywhere really except for new york but <hes> iowans can be super nice but they're also like the most pissed americans ever met were islands because they're all like they all have four brothers others everyone's name connor and ian <hes> they all wrestle the all just get the shit beaten out of them by their older brothers all the time and they're just like their the people buying all the five finger death punch albums and slipknot hometown heroes correlated cory booker from slipknot woke that was the best part part we got there and they had a listing of all of the acts from nineties mainstays hootie and the blowfish to relatively recent hit makers chain smoker the only group that was sold out with fucking snip snip mind. Gotcha don't making the fucking episode. Take take to slip dot. What did you say slip cloud. That's a fucking dream theater that slip cloud but the important thing that i was no one will ever know what i never be heard. Human ears it out trevor. The substory trevor from slipknot is though he's like all those nineties in two thousand like except for take kid rock. The outlier kid rock like a maggot shit had michigan though yeah rich rich he <hes> he's like a farmington hills guys who reps detroit. I believe larry the cable guy class. <hes> red red neck face. I guess you'd call. I'm affiliation so the person who runs <hes> who ran the political soapbox moines register. We heard her cange buell probably probably a like a dozen times. You're there and then she asked every single time before the candidate came out. Does anyone know what iowa nice if people would just sort of murmur and she'd be like okay. Well look you're right. Look to your left. Both of those people are nice nice all right. Let's start start the show. This is <hes> this is chapo. It's me well we got amber and matt today but to kick off the show doo doo doo doo doo doo do do do do do do do dateline brooklyn new york august nineteenth two thousand nineteen chapo department of corrections corrections corrections okay. You may be aware that over the last few episodes we have been dipping rather heavily into the jeffrey epstein case and some might say conspiracy surrounding the events leading up to his death in the manhattan correctional facility in <hes> solitaire unit under in federal custody we implied heavily on previous shows and in fact just the last when i recorded that he was one hundred percent murdered in his cell for unfortunately now will be having to release the following correction we we were wrong. I was wrong. The manhattan new york city chief medical examiner issued their autopsy report report and found that the cause of death was suicide by hanging himself from a bed sheet off a bunk bed in his cell and and that's that i'm reading right now from the medical examiner's report <hes> it states here <hes> we find conclusively that the cause of death was suicide. Although then it goes on and i don't know why this is in the report it goes on to say the medical examiner than dust off their hands theatrically and said and that's the the end of that so this will be the last time you ever talk about jeffrey epstein. I apologize. I really got a little carried away. <hes> yeah yeah i gotta say like i was getting messages from people who are like amber. Thank you need to do an episode soon. I'm not sure how does doing no i. I really thank them for the reality check and now i can go on with my life knowing that i was like it like it happened. I just said look doc. It's i've been watching a lot of coen brothers recently to which has helped me through this troubling time because you realize sometimes there are insane coincidences and sometimes there aren't aren't you might never know and also maybe there's a god but he doesn't care and don't try and figure out what he's saying but it is like a very burn after reading moment where it's like you won't necessarily know oh for sure what happened and particularly because you will never conceive of the stupidest possible contingencies like my friends suggested he's like if some if we later found now that a peto priest broken because he believed he had an agreement with god that if he killed epstein he would be forgiven. I'd be like yeah that makes sense or if like you know a diddled irish catholic cop killed like yeah that makes sense like it's all just completely. I'd be like it's fine. If for me also also it doesn't matter that much because they didn't change the way navigate the world. I've accepted that the whole thing is run by pedophile lizard billionaires along time ago. It's not going to a change my behavior in any way yeah and like if you are personally strolling saw thoughts of suicide you know we're going to put the number out there. Were all sat like this is like a contrite episode. We're all sad that we lost him. Everyone said it's whatever talking about that but in the guardian when they reported don at first at the bottom they had the number for like good samaritans n._p._r. Too if you're feeling because they needed to immediately smothered in liberal pieties about about what what oh you think it was so you don't think it was suicide. I guess you don't care about the bad conditions in america's prisons. Oh you're only worried about suicide awareness. Wow that's pretty fucked up of you well as part of my apology for indulging in the again conspiracy theory see that he was a one hundred percent definitely murdered and absolutely did not kill himself <hes> as a condition for that. I'll be linking to the grave diggers song one eight hundred suicide. I hope we can just have a listen to that and you know if you listen to that song dozer jeffrey obscene did everything they do in that song to kill himself jeffrey obscene furthermore did the things they do in the three six grabbed the gauge sodas asshole shut and swallowed a grenade how badly this man wanted only to go and it's like why we're raising awareness day we are we are we are we are all raising three million dollars to set up a charity five k in fort wayne indiana to raise awareness of our new ribbon campaign for suicides in mahan correctional center versus <hes> <hes> you know just accept that a pedophile have run the world since prior to capitalism and really focus on the fact fact that like bernie sanders is the only anti-pedophile candidate yes and suicide or not or not <music> <hes> but anyway regardless of how he died. You know it's about how he lived. It's about how he lived. Which was a man a human being being like we all are whose vast and unspeakable crimes were facilitated by the united states government at nearly every step. That's what's important folks and people are. I'm gonna say this is nothing like to poke around for two bucks to park. I hate those old heads off. Say that fuck. I hate withhold your head said this is nothing like the franklin credit right so yeah apologies again. This will be the will not be talking about if you have any more until about twenty minutes into this podcasts a little bit later but first. Let's check in in <hes> you know we were just in the iowa state unfair covering covering shock covering the show the big show and i want to you know we talked about a about sanders and all the candidates we did see but i'd like to now <hes> tune in onto the candidates did not get a chance to see on the soapbox and let's begin with joe biden diamond joe joe biden fronts stoppable juggernaut delectable runner sure i wasn't there obviously but i heard good things i heard joe biden when up to the butter cow mistook it for a buxom woman and said you make me wanna put on my reading glasses and it the crowd was delighted then he just lit. He just licked the hornets licked it clean off and said oh you'll make them like they used to make them look like that and everyone liked it. They loved it. The thing you gotta remember much of it is he's the front runner yeah. He's the most yoga one talking about any negative thing about him. There is there's very little like anything bad you point out joe biden literally. Everyone has done it. It's weird though he is still the one to be but he is <music> rapidly deteriorate. I mean more so like to the point where they have been clearly covering this up for years now. Ember everything is fine. Everything is normal enroll number. He is a normal we north candidate who was leading all the polls and leading all the polls will only candidate who can defeat trump most important thing gotta get behind him however according writing to his allies. They're quote have floated scaling back events the limit gaffes now gifts come on people are making. They're making too big a deal about the gasps. Everybody makes gaffes doesn't matter it's normal. I look i'm this is do the age. You're slowing down or anything. I'm like sixty years younger than joe biden. I have also walked up to tulsi gabbard asked her if she's my granddaughter this isn't the hill says here allies to joe biden have been floating the idea of altering altering the former vice president schedule in an effort to reduce the gaffes he has made in recent days. The allies growing increasingly nervous about biden's verbal flubs have said it's an approach coach has been suggested to campaign officials on the heels of the former vice president stumbles biden has a tendency to make the blenders late in the day. His allies say particularly really after a long swing on the road like he has had the last week in iowa. Okay something needs to be done to give the candidate more downtime. As the candidate intensifies the campaign intensifies in the fall just run that backwards segment said he has a tendency to make these verbal blunders as the day goes on literally like said around sundown and then like they're like okay have that that'd be great. That'd be a great campaign between trump and about but by then binds big argument is look. I don't sunde until four four thirty p._m. Emblem sunday evening by nine in the morning. I mean air. He does start to but who knows when he actually wakes up. Charles also trump keeps later nights. He's up at three a. M. talking about like four hours of ninety four hours. A night wakes up drink's like seven diet cokes like just has hemorrhoids watching fox and friends and it's like what are the what why are you going to stop having the tiresome peter a gila cutty on he's so nasty to me. He has to be put on the trump christmas card list. I said no oh and so it's like a radic joe biden noses schedule and i'm just physically like joe. Biden actually is spry and trump has bedsores yeah no trump trump. How could i describe him move like a fleshy slinky right. That's how you moved sure what's going on matt but it's not regular joe biden's like he's up in at them like if he sees hair he wants to smell he smells. It's the difference between tween a bernhard cone and the russia emperor yes this one hundred percent biden said he was like like basically threatened to punch trump and and it's like i know as a push competition and then trump all crazy joe he also could probably mike and mike punch trump but it would be like x. Men the blob is gut with like sort of sun valley yeah yeah it would be like that to your point. I think one of his aides did use the word. These happens as the sun goes down. He said that's a reporter and then the reporter's of a mysteriously crashed his car into a palm tree at one hundred twenty miles an hour really mysterious so as you guys know i'm like looking with hickenlooper out unfortunate right dark guy. I don't really i don't really have a candidate. You know life goes on. We'll get over it now the life go on yes well. I think he has no life never ends serve in hell forever springs but any club issur she hasn't responded to any of my contact requests but one thing i can do is work pro bono for the biden campaign my dream of going on cable all news and going like everything he's doing is fine. You know what he meant. I wanted to be the you know what he meant like. Mo sanders is killing it. She goes on there. Are you know pretty much every other day when people are like what did joe biden mean when he said he was friends with nathan bedford forrest she goes. You know what he meant pretty good. I think look there are a lot of there are a lot of t._v. Networks she can take half. I can take the other half and yet. Does it seem bad to like the someone who's really ah untrained in politics that you run out of brain power you could say as the sun goes down. Well you know when does the bank close on. Five stock. Market closes at three good luck to the post office at eight. What do you think the rest of the world's any different suspicious about a guy who's like just oh he's ready to. He's ready to talk to whoever at any time it's we. It's the salesman personality joe biden's on a salesman. Joe biden's like a good middle class show. He's the true the american stock he's like. He's the guy at your friend's wedding who you don't know if he's like your friends uncle or just like an old person who wandered in. He's he's wearing a pullover windbreaker. He elbows uses the brides of smoke. Show good or bad. That's that's true. Heartland values <hes> just continue on here in this <hes> the hill article. It says he needs to be a strong force on the campaign trail but he also has the pace himself said one ally who has talked to members of the campaign campaign team and others in the broader biden world about how to move forward the ally said it was unclear whether the campaign would make any changes to the schedule particularly because biden was criticised recently for not doing as many events as his democratic rivals okay so you don't like him you don't like him going out there and saying that like him and jesse helms cut each other's bombs and became blood brothers but you also want to do more events. It seems to me like i wonder why joe biden is held to high different. You know double standard and other candidates it because he's irish. Maybe is it because he's from delaware definitely and he goes here. I think you'll see the same schedule and maybe even more joe biden when l._s. Hello everyone wants to see joe biden joe biden if he's held back in any way that's almost the antithesis of who he is. That is true. I do wanna see more job. I'd just another hit from biden land. This is actually <hes> just today joe biden's wife dr jill biden had this just to say of him and his campaign so if you're looking at that you've got to look at the polls and you know a lot of the times i say oh you know. The polls don't mean anything anything but if they're consistent and consistently saying the same thing. I think you can't dismiss that so yes. Your candidate might be better on. I don't know healthcare. Caravan joe is but you've got to look. You've got to look who's going to win this election and maybe you have to swallow a little bit and say okay. I personally like so and so better but your bottom line has to be that we have to be trump. She later added. You may like another candidate better but you have to look at who's is gonna win and joe. Is that person just because jill biden swallows doesn't mean we have there is no stronger endorsement for candidate than in his wife going out there and being like look. I know many of you think he sucks. I i understand that more than anyone like. Somebody's mom going to the school schoolyard and yelling at kids for picking on her son. Oh so you don't want to be friends with my son be stupid and he smells bad. You know what that makes you have have you seen the real the people on oscar no beautiful boy oscar. It's literally like like their strategy is to like treat. The presidential schol raise like a like a child's birthday party where you have to invite. Everyone and everyone has to be invited. Everybody has to give joe biden a- valentine sweetheart cupid broke his bow out on you got a warranty. I could go to the j._c. Penney models. We're having a convention here the money you're straight out of the sears catalog and probably the the other person who probably knows joe biden as well as his wife is of course former president barack iraq obama who according to vanity fair had this to say as the new york times reported on friday obama has taken an active interest behind the scenes in joe biden's presidential not it seems to help former vice president beat out the rest of the crowd twenty twenty hopefuls but to shield him obama council biden several times before he entered the race in the spring. The times reported and the former president cast his doubts about the pending campaign. You don't have to do this joe. Obama told by a source sir william with their conversations told the paper you really don't for the love of god joe biden and enter the race anyway telling him that he could never forgive himself. If you didn't personally they try to oust trump obama began pushing into expand his aging inner circle according to the times his advisors new to ensure by didn't embarrass himself or damage his legacy gacy too late. I will say this. I don't think he's embarrassed. How can you better says legacy is going out and just jabbering like i mean. I don't think he has the capacity for shane. Nobody who's been in the senate that long possibly could he's really proud of himself all the time no matter what he says does perot bomber i think his legacy is beyond being barack obama's vice president. I think that's what really what he does. Yeah exactly don't make people go start asking the inevitable question way. Why did obama the most left wing president politician ever picked. This guy is phoebe drop down from a paraglider or whatever to have this conversation with him and then jet ski with richard brains yeah no. I'm sure obama's loving it. We're like at every democratic debate. They like they're bringing up like a joe like why. How did you know dramatically escalate the drug war lock generation of young black men behind bars or whatever and he's just like ask obama former best friend supports everything i do. I have through doesn't i talked to barack about that. You said joe joe biden is already casino just with the bug grocery grocery store everything away because like people were perfectly advantages not think about it. Yeah likes everything that i've ever done ron. It's also like it's a it's a dany mcbride kind of like level of confidence and ability to like inculcate other people into what he's doing doing to the point where they just uncomfortably or just trying to avoid him. I'm not sure anyone of any great success is really boosting for biden and like. Has anyone really gone to that for them like they're just kind of like well. We have to be trump is anyone singing. Biden's praises looking at him in your times bestseller former top one hundred player of the specialists half-life one mod in two thousand one or two thousand and four wow. Oh i'm getting like joe. Biden was no. I feel like they're all splitting splitting their time. I mean all the unindicted epstein conspirators are are sort of throwing their lot between harris budaj edge talking up yeah he he may end up just getting like just pray the highest ratio of dominoes to actual supporters out of anyone right. It's just like gotta be like one million dollar per actual voter at this point but <hes> <hes> no biden knowing about muster the energy to be like he's a great guy. He's just perpetually embarrassing. I mean the closest i've ever gotten with is just just winding up on twitter and i'm just finally like what do you actually like it. Joe biden's record or career government and the only response i ever get is uh-huh yeah real nice good faith question. You're asking anybody no way. I'm engaged in that all that old trick where you ask somebody named one thing you actually like about. This guy wised here filthy filthy schemes well. There are like literally twenty other candidates in this race with identical politics him so like what do you see in him that you have to support well that i think it's just some in variable. You know what joe biden said. She just look at the polls. He's he's leading the polls. He's the front runner and the thing is if you look at all of the democrat as democrats they match up against donald trump in the general election right now are they're pretty much all beating him. I mean put whatever stock you want. In go ahead it means nothing doesn't have like the the amulet he's the only one or whatever but moving on from biden you know i think i asked this question like a couple of weeks ago. In the show is that you know in light of his you know his verbal flubs and stubs like guth. Wherever you want to say it'll be interesting to see how much <hes> sort of elite opinion and you know your party grandees. He is beginning to shift their support away from him hedge their bets and if so who do they shift to and i think the obvious choice is going to be kamala harris. I think we're already starting to see just a little bit of that and i think she understands that quite well. I think he's shrewd about that. He's beginning to play to that. The crowd courtesy of bloomberg. We have <hes> just from this weekend. I believe in capitalism. Kamala harris courts big donors in the hamptons. Tesla maserati is lined. The street kamala harris greeted guests sipping drinks from plastic cups with her name on them and eating cinnamon sugar donuts from dresden's way <hes> reasons at a fundraiser hosted by movie executive. Jamie protruck patrick often his wife kelly as the summer of democrat fundraisers rolled on east hampton <hes> going we also don't events it martha's vineyard blah blah. <hes> midsummer island goes on here. Says harris's positioned herself as in moderate candidate in the the democratic spectrum that can appeal to both the wealthy and the working class attendees said even in the backyard of the millionaires harris's message remained the same as in rural iowa. She you continue to push her three a._m. Agenda by which he means he's up. I'm i'm dropping off uh-huh every her three a._m. Agenda by which he means issues that keep middle class americans up at night did she still at from taco bell meal for america's energy. The pursuit of happiness america's extremely drunk and it needs like some ballast america. It's three <hes> <hes> you gotta drive home. What are you going to do. Are you going to risk it. America close one eye again at the house of movie producers and easthampton. You know you can read into that unindicted co-conspirator <hes> because i believe in capitalism but capitalism is not working for most people. She's like the fucking mortician at the beginning of the godfather. I believe in capitalism alyssum and raise my daughter into capitalist fashion. He said on the patio steps to the patrick off house looking out at a peach orchard among flower and herb beds. She said she recognized people who've become successful by working hard and following rules but that the middle class needs help harris again tried to clarify her stance on healthcare or a topic that tripped her up in early early democratic debates. I have not been comfortable with bernie sanders medicare for all proposal and explain how i how is it harris. Administration ministration would leave room for private insurance. I think bernie medicare for all would also leave room for private insurance. It's not predicted this by the way considering because and when she came into the race everyone was like no she says it she it's on their website syrup. She finds it's real. It's like yeah. They're all lying. You're literally all lying and they're just it's a question of when they're going to drop it and spending was lying of course or even i changed my mind. It's that oh no you don't understand and i'm stupid very stoop bills or laws or anything cosponsored the bill of reading it or thinking about actually they look. He's an old man. I didn't want to defeat disappointed handling grandkids. Don't call him. I did some of my nurses or filipino well. I i write all sponsor. You're stupid. You'll grandpa like goes to show the importance of you know. Does someone have a long record of supporting things like single payer or are they posers then and then you know the daily beast wrote this up kamala. Kamala says she's uncomfortable with bernie's healthcare plan two years after co-sponsoring it. She says you're again at a at a fundraiser in the hamptons. This weekend says i think almost every member of the united states senate who's running for president and many others have signed onto a variety of plans in the senate and i have done the same harris said according to most. I'm sorry hey look. We've all signed lots of bills. It's almost like it's the thing that we do the job tonight. We we've all signed bills <music>. That is the most insanely like distance distant like what is a bill really she goes. All of them are good ideas. Which is why i support fourth them is. They're not all that ideas and i support medicare for all but as you may have noticed over the course of many months i've not been comfortable with bernie's plan the medicare care for all plant. This is about understanding again that healthcare should be a right not a privilege and it's also about being smart harris set an august twenty seventeen so it's not only about what is morally ethically right harris argued it also makes sense from a fiscal standpoint or if he wants to talk about it as return on investment for taxpayers. That's what she was saying two two years ago. She's really trying to throw now. She says there's a difference between signing onto a good idea and running on a plan and harris campaign spokesperson folks person in sam's he noted that sanders is running on a medicare for all but was nevertheless a sponsor of a bill from senator brian schatz to establish a public option senator harris was hearing from lots of voters real concerns specifically about proactively abolishing private insurance the four year transition middle middle class tax sites and so so she came up with her own plan to adjust for those frankly that is better than his said. Sam's so <hes> harris's former healthcare plan differs from sanders model in a variety of ways it aims to phase in medicare for all over the course of a decade as opposed to four years and allow private insurers to offer plans through medicare if they comply with strict government rules. We'll wolfe's it in over the course of three presidential administrations and nothing will be derailed in that time like barron trump is going to let that be implemented without any impeding he might he might he doesn't want the job hang out well yeah but he's at the chosen one <music> so there you go again. I would just say keep an eye on as biden continues to profit the ham you mean charm crowd ralph experience not annoy everybody by holding events late at night. Have you ever considered that. Maybe he's considerate towards reporters well. We'll see if some of the night owls als <hes> ship their support to kamala. She's the only one talking to them. You know she observes genius hours. Donald trump can say we can't have my dream ticket of biden imbued dead judge. You might that'd be fucking awesome dude but chef club which are now. I mean look. She's i in your heart sherzer my heart art. If minnesota secedes like i will help her win. You know military governor chip of the independent state. She won't need your help for that's just be standing on a mountain of skulls and a metal bikini yeah but i could knock on doors but i think biden viewed edge. That'd be fucking awesome. <hes> it would be like it would be cool. Buddy movie like buddha jesuit say something in a different language and go. Hey it's all greek to me. It would be so cool. It would be dirty grandpa. Yeah it'd be epic dude seventy two. We all love it. Did you like dirty grandpa. Yeah we want to see it for four to eight years. Get biden haydn. We cut this. This is literally going to happen. Literally gonna causes happening all right well so i <hes> yeah don't want to <hes> again heaven that into a reality so <hes> enough with the <hes> the sorted spectacle of campaigns politician's shins votes the fake politics. Let's go back talking about the real politics which is of course jeffrey up c._n._n. Everything surrounding rebounding his life and death which provide kind of schedule a skeleton key through which to unlock an understanding about the nature of power money and government and how it is exercised in the real world not the fake world of you know the i woke doc <hes> political soapbox and i kind of look it's fun to talk about because it is genuinely and fascinating to me but i do think there is something about this case case or jeffrey epstein end his life that i think needs to become kind of a stand in for how we talk about billionaires in our society in general right like his life and the things he did and everything surrounding it and all the weird mysteries and conspiracies and questions about it is just another way of discussing what it means to live in a society ruled by billionaires and ever since his death. We've seen a number of articles attempt to kind of metabolize. This new reality into a kind of official narrative you saw we talked a bit about at the beginning with this idea about like suicide is serious. Yes like if you know anyone who's struggling called this hotline neglect in our prison system very serious. People kill themselves all the time the real story yeah. That's the real story here a number number of ways that we've been tempted to kind of shift the focus and i now have a two selections here that i thought were especially good attempts to kind of shift and reformat the amoeba has been sort of struck and needs to reform itself to fit a new mold. The first one comes courtesy of the wall street journal the business the section headline trusting jeffrey epstein toddler retail legend a hard lesson. Be careful whom you trust that was l. Brands founder leslie wexner mary who accused the disgraced financier stealing vast sums of money recalls his father's warning about too much optimism so is this les wexner people plotting the story story or just a fan of less now that is the most obvious fucking les wexner off my mind for a second and then that's where he may be literally think did he personally killed jeffrey epstein wax. If you look into wexner wexner just forgetting the fact that he gave us epstein a quarter billion dollars the fucking mansion and the in the plane and power of attorney he also himself has insane life in the ninety s his main logistics company was fucking air america literally iran-contra. Ask the c._i._a. Planes that got shot down over nicaragua and started the whole doc scandal well. I guess you'd like them to just throw those away but you know maybe it's good to reuse things he goes leslie wexner was among the pathfinders for american business business in china in the nineteen seventies shunning official channels in beijing shanghai making big advancements on essentially a handshake. I just met business a businessman somewhere and he trust me and i trusted him and we started doing things mr wexler the eighty one year old founder of l. brands said in a talk at harvard center for public leadership. If trust helped make mr wexler serve retailing legend though it is tormenting him now mr wexler had a personal and professional relationship with accused sex trafficker jeffrey epstein how could a man who mess billions in selling doing block bras bluejeans and bath salts to women put so much trust in mr epstein for two decades. Mr wexner claims that sold sold a ball and rope really get mixed up with shady guy like that. Mr wexler claims his former associate supreme created vast sums of money. It's so sorry man. It's a question that brings into focus. The role trust plays in american business. Long seen is nearly essential as money for the economy. It is as powerful cool as it is. Dangerous trust serves as the secret sauce in every transaction business plan and implement no way but behind every ponzi scheme market meltdown in corporate fraud lies a serious case of misplaced trust. It is so awesome to like okay. You're friends with jeffrey. I've seen for like four decades. There's just endless. Melissa weird shit you get little glimpses of and then when he finally fucking dies. You're like you get an article place. It's like actually jeffrey. Epstein's friends problem is he's. He's too good of a person. That's fucking incredible. The wall street journal fucking owns. It would a great publication. Mr wasn't available for comment and he has rarely spoken publicly about mr epstein at harvard a decade ago. He owned up to making a bed. Judgment calls that at time didn't seem unethical but in hindsight were clearly. Ill advised following. No moral compass can be tough and complicated. He said but necessary. It's literally not you have money for teams and teams of lawyers. Even the most moral among us make mistakes shadowed us. This is tough for mr wexner who spent much of his time in fortune trying to carve out a legacy that doesn't resemble mr epsteins what through the victoria victoria's secret angels israel's program like how does that not reflect what epstein was up to any well. I mean one. They're all okay when asked what he wanted. Did you be known for mr. Rexona recently said he doesn't want to be remembered as the guy who created the sexiest. Thongs are comfy est hip huggers. No one remembers who sold the most togas in rome. He said it they were. They remember colella. You hope you'll be remembered decades giving away millions billions have various causes including ohio state university the united way and children's hospitals but mr mr mr wexler acknowledged in the same talk that there's a flip side. People remember the great villains more than they remember the great heroes jokers trick no the the it's almost like a humble brag type thing. It's like oh. Everyone's gonna remember me is the greatest bra inventor of all time. It's my curse and it's like well. No will remember you for something far different now yeah don't worry about it. Pal beat it. I mean the truth is no one's gonna fuck and remember number this guy. There's he's the viceroy of ohio rebellion fucking guys like this who just like someone. You've never heard of who controls like his personal. Wealth is in the tens of billions. He controls around hundreds of billions of dollars of wealth. He just like if you lived in this state he kind kind of affected every asset of every factor of your life he did god knows what in his life and then they just died at age one hundred fucking fifty and nothing happens so he'll he's legacy will be the thing that allowed him to do whatever which is no one will fucking about him it into one of wexner is other. A personal attorneys was murdered before he's about testified in offshore banking scandal case <hes> it was a mob related yeah because his his his air logistics justice was the cia front airline southern air transport his ground logistics was a mob-controlled firm from pittsburg moving on real quick just lane maxwell at in and out burger okay okay. Is it double double pap photo op gold or animal style sigh up. What are you okay. Ah i was getting settled down for a while. I was settling down. I was like what anything could have happened. Who knows i don't think he killed themselves but honestly the number of things could have happened. Rpm viability conceived the stupidest exactly who could know anything but and then and then the picture came out first first there was the story about how she checked with a billionaire in in massachusetts sounds like oh that's weird and then that fucking picture came out and my head. I'm like okay. I honestly must be seeing this nothing wrong because in a world where they sneak into the fucking shoe and kill this guy and covered up. She's not walking around gay bergh's in l._a. That's not a reality that makes sense and then the fucking photograph is fake. Yes okay. The photograph is fake in fact. There's an article today about from the daily news confirming that it's fucking fake. There's a photo one. There's a there's a there's a picture. There's a ad in the backyard for the movie. A good boys have coming up this weekend. That's was not that it's not there because people that is a very recognizable in and out in l._a. People know on what the fucking at is and it's not that somebody fucking photoshop that in their very kanye viral marketing by in-n-out burger and good oh boy yeah they're going to do a thing where you know. A ten thousand double double you bite into has a golden ticket to visit little saint james. I like the idea that like the only the person who could break this open was like joe's world tour how that in-n-out burger what does that mean. I don't you don't want to do with this information to photograph to make it look like she was in l. a. holding a book about c._i._a. Agents that killed in the line of duty. What mad i think it's i think it's someone in particular who's hated you since high school and has found a way to fuck with you yeah. I think it might be it might be. It's gotta be something like that. Bully anyone no good way my only movie like the sending you a message matt book tages lane and whoever she sending a message shoe. Can you just text each other. I'm sick awesome. Seeing people talk on the time line when they can give each other a call now because it's like honestly at this point it's either. I'm being tormented by specific person or my other theory. Is that this entire case the entire epstein thing with its baroque intricacies with its with its 'cause. We've talked forever on the show about how everything feels in the stasis and this case even if we known your heart you'll never going to know what happened. It just feels like a crack in the wall something to grab onto to climb on just like a peek through the veil ale and that makes me think and it's so entertaining even though it's horrible it's so riveting and and and you could just stay forever. It feels like our collective consciousness. This is leasing the d. m. t. before like our society dies. I feel like we get a lot of that. Though i feel like i mean you just described like trump winning. Everything felt like yeah. I think it's never it's because you want an election. This is the thing that you can look at any angle of an and none of it makes sense the coen brothers. It's not like it's not totally one for one. That's like those are good burgers walter. It's not like totally essentially randomly family and sometimes we'll never know about accepting oh the grand plan. You don't know if it's coincidence. You don't know if anyone is orchestrating anything. You don't know what i'm saying alphabet soup and trying to figure out what the plot is well. No i mean that's i mean. I'm not saying it's like one for one trumping. No events like one for one especially not too dissimilar but what i'm saying is that like everything for the less what like eight or nine years felt like it's in stasis and the defining trait isn't that things like this never happened. It's that they happen in enough to make you question breaking but i know enough enough to make you feel like you're going insane. I will say hey that yes like. There's something distinctive about this where it's something that feels like it happened like it wasn't just something that got immediately digested adjusted in the new cycle hysteria. I mean i i think it'll be a lot of sound and fury signifying. Nothing and most of those lizard people are still we'll just going on like nothing happened to them but it does feel like something happened like we're all seeing this right. Fargo is teaching my god damn and yoga class and everyone finally realizes that they're like yeah. That's a little weird. I'll admit that's a little weird right but what i'm saying is like part of what drives you insane is the stages of everything but part of what makes you doubly insane the idea that you're going to get out of it i it's not even that it's not understand it. It's like get a grip. It's move just even intellectually beyond like yeah. The idea that is going to be some sort of rallying cry to bring down the oligarchy. Obviously that's never gonna happen but it's just there's just all these crannies felt like just a sheer rock face. That's what drives you insane. We're just to shattuck where the nappy brady said this a couple of days ago and we were talking about it and he said that like it just feels like we're living in level nine of james roy novel and i'm not certain what's going to happen if we as society hit level ted yeah that's kind of what it feels like to me but you know just a word warn you dear listener and your co host away from the you know from staring into the abyss is my my second news story about this and it comes courtesy of the wall street journal but rather more niche publication called fatherly. I've never heard of this publication before but courtesy author. There is an article titled conspiracy theories about jeffrey epstein suicide harm kids. Okay brothers like like yeah. That's what serving kids that that's what about this case. Army says you're a conspiracy theories about jeffrey obscene suicide are everywhere and they're damaging to kids perceptions of truth. Authority and democracy should call. It repressed bothered so this weekend end president. Donald trump promoted a video created by conservative comedian terrance williams claiming that the clintons orchestrated jeffrey epstein's prison death the president who is no stranger to promoting conspiracy theories pushed the video to his official twitter feed in spite of means death being confirmed as a suicide by his very own justice department. Did he mean it probably not but the harm arm is still done what trump and the clinton body count crowd filter grass is the conspiracy theories are deeply toxic families and can have long lasting detrimental effects. Expose children look my twin boys are sixteen years old and they are dead set on the fact that santa claus exists still you're giving ring my son braille in an unreality issues with this stop it they spread a distrust of malignant government and authority that can undermine democracy and even lead to violent ideological idiological extremism the theory that conspiracies can harm kids is not in itself a conspiracy in fact. It's based on core. The core principle of the science into parenting children looked to adults to fulfill developmental needs adults help kids understand the world and their place in it unless their pad files adults also provide security already instability unless they're patent files when adults are loose with the facts or bend them to their will or pedophile like when they espouse conspiracy theories. These developmental needs are destabilized. Kids can't decipher fact from fiction like an adult. Their world is instead offended. I mean the fucked up. Thing here is like adults absolutely cannot cannot decipher fact and fiction at all or absolutely nobody can sit cans yeah when adults become conspiratorial they they sowed distrust on the government and children. I mean i'm sort of like isn't it. A healthy distrust of government should be inculcated. Yeah i have raised as my children to just get in the back of a van the second someone offers them candy. World is good and kind to me like like obviously wanna raise kids with some sense of security or they turn out all weird nervous but like you do slowly introduced skepticism about the world to them otherwise they're just going to be these naive rubes that get like well predated on bipedal files worse yet conspiracies can cost children's feel as if they are actively threatened by powerful people offending a sense of stability on conspiracy causes a trusted adult to become paranoid that sense of instability instability becomes more acute and results in depression and anxiety okay i. I'm sorry like this is just really upsetting to me. Does this guy know that jeffrey epstein already went to jail at the conspiracy gun chiltern fucking sweetheart deal after abusing children like i feel like he doesn't doesn't know accusations yeah which father wrote this dylan baker from happiness the deep cut trump. This is simon pig in the boys. You're good boy. Huey don't go to m._c._c. Trump of course is no stranger to conspiracy theories. He's champion such increase intrigues as senator ted cruz father being complicit in j._f._k. F- case assignation drew and birtherism which attacked obama citizenship while many of trump's supporters are also conspiratorial minded jeffrey epstein's death is revealed vein of conspiracy on the left as well and there are plenty of liberal minded individuals floating the idea that president trump himself had ahead and silencing his old pal to protect himself from from being implicated in child trafficking and child rape scandal. Gets it half right there. That is the liberal side of this. The left wing side of it comes that is horseshoe. Theory comes right back around clinton body account definitely the clintons. That's the beauty of this thing as as if it has any sort of pedagogical value it's you might be able to use it to shake people. They need your partisanship. It's like they're both. It's an anti elite still. They're both bad. There's no good rich people. There's no good powerful people in these stories stories. There's no oh the ones that the exeter named there are the white hats. There's no one over a certain degree of income. That isn't a yes framing. The president of the united states is is a secretive killer covering up his dastardly deeds with children is deeply toxic idea a child who here's these conspiracies internalizes them could develop a deep mistrust of political leaders that could poison their faith in democracy and when enough people lose faith in democracy country becomes destabilized epstein joint well. I hope you're happy talking about seen now. My son's a fucking car list. You know what he won't take the fuck it breath dinnertime airport airport fucking. I don't know if you guys know this. In the early. Odds epstein and harvey weinstein founded radar magazine zien explicitly so that they could buy and berry stories about them. Yeah also abstinence is really like he paid that guy two for national news yeah eh a p._r. Thing where these reporters were taken like six hundred dollar checks to plant stories and like the national review about science of philanthropist jeffrey epstein motherfuckers motherfuckers still have jobs and blue check marks. It's like you you will sell six hundred bucks for fucking pedophile and you're fine with it and they're not fired. They're not ashamed of themselves loves. None of them have committed harry carey all right. I draw the line at going after people's jobs have enough canceling going on and it it scares children to cancel people just shows shows the absolute rot like no one had any moral sense of anything you think yourself journalist you'd think somebody giving a six hundred dollars to do any promotional article would give you qualms let alone fucking just-released pedophile but not not even for a second do you think about it rule so hard that it was the national review among among other she goes of course that's the whole point of conspiracy theories and that is exactly why russia has weaponized them through social media. Oh shit oh fuck rolling as they could come these this conspiracy theory the true interesting one. They bring it all back to be actually actually no this other dumb idiot conspiracy theory. That's the real one and that's the one that you should promote to your children. You should go to school fearing russians. It's every you just sit on the fly some research about fatherly yeah very brief stuff so started in like twenty fourteen as pitched two times times as buzzfeed's meat meat's vice for parents. Mary curse very kerr's hasn't it hasn't gates foundation money. Michael strahan wrestles that guy who wrote those diary of wimpy kid things and then like a guy that wrote parenting books privately held the arctic up stuff on the founders but we'll we'll keep working on it you bring it all back to russia at the end here and it says that makes pushing the f._c._c. conspiracies other from the right or left deeply dangerous on an an individual level it can erode the sense of stability in our children and ultimately their mental health but on a larger level it could erode the foundations of our country smart and discerning adult should know better. We should promote facts before we start. Promoting fear got that vladimir. I know you're reading this right now. While i'm writing it on my <hes> <hes> my google notes app because you hack my computer all right so i you know again on some brain damage. Let's just do a brief pallet cleanser at the end of the show okay. I want to bring you guys back all right. We got like a we're living in a world of fear a world of illusion where everything hall of mirrors exactly so. I just looked to close out this episode with a little bit of slam poetry. Let's fuck and go in my opinion the best kind of poetry <hes> the only early kind for me yeah <hes> this is courtesy of our you'll so belle. Are you familiar with her work. She's pretty live. Issue kind of fucking voted on it. It's kind of nice with it. She sort of a broader a woke zionists okaz baras who's trying to make being being his ionised marginalized identity group that you know i mean that is literally the basis of yes i. She's a politics successfully pointed <music> out that your friend ellie valley is d- most racist man alive yeah she is. I had met alley and you know what she's right yeah. No she is right so this comes courtesy a twitter user. I'm not able to <hes> just say the name here but someone someone dug up that she has a blog that contain dug it up run. Oh shit on but we covered some slam poetry courtesy of ariosto r._e._o. Also bell said i believe she said that bernie sanders is a bad jew and made it a point to connect elliot valley with neo nazis so wow slam poetry by aerial show bell titled mom. I'm a rapper all right. This is our promising a lot yeah. I'm about to spit okay yeah last night. I told my mom that i'm going to be a rapper because my tongue and wit are a hell of a lot faster than the little wayne's complaints about not enough hose too many bastards and all that serious shitting a fucking. What's gonna make literally not man. This is what the f._c._c. is does to me. This is already already ruining me. Imagine imagine like getting out of the hill meeting and calling your mom because i know they didn't literally happen but in my have you walk out of the hill meeting being the you call your mom on the phone and you're like lou. Wayne only talked about hose. This is my this is breaking. My fucking talking mas i. I believe that this very well exact scenario might have actually happened this person. Is this earnest okay. Hey i'm doing the hand the hand motions of at coke industries guy who did the video about us the white rapper the getty before you did this. You have to do the white rap. You have to see on invisible to undo the white wrapping in poetry motions okay so i gotta get back. Gotta get back back your vehicle across the nation evaporation corporations all right and all that serious shit this on sirius x._m. That that stem from the crapper because i can take the box out of be box find inspiration from ted talks lines in long walks down the pages of my diary. We would hire me d._j. Back he's a run that back l. because i take pacing right now. I literally dropped his microphone. I can tick the box at a box find inspiration for ted talks in the long walks down the pages in my diary and jimmy wien would hire me because i'd actually look good in those low cut jeans. I'd build the quilt was seems and dreams rather than swag and do rags okay what was that i call the fearless stags instead of bags and have wags under my eyes from spending my nights editing out lies turning on lights in the ruse cruise. When i'm most vulnerable i'd get back. I got to be back on turning on lights in the rooms are most vulnerable and i put you under a spell with the fact that could spell words tasty and swell and my rat name would practically be the same aerial so bell or snow wait because i've been awakened by the kiss of life and my bar fights will be ripping with tights before my first step and from my lips will drip last night of words i drip out rhyme eminem end little wayne throw a steak through drake and make you need a doctor nicki menaj would show her ass and i'd topper with some class last and explained to to change that some dope shit runs through my veins and eat hand me the reins as i got more makomo and showed ludicrous the door because i won't we'll bring you to your knees but leave you on the floor shattered and sore for my tongue his spun things as crazy as amanda binds in my heart beat faster than the quickest vines and m._r. rams are hotter than ryan gosling watching titanic we might not be at the disco but you better panic because on the manic depressant florescent luminescent adolescent acid and life may be evanescent but i'll stay effervescent knocked me down and i'm i'm blessed in the dark on lincoln and i refused to be questioned on the nexgen exchan- great rapper. You can't tapper tap into her mic drop i. I don't no no god wants me to do with this case. You know how like in ballet they say you. You have to focus on a spot in the wall to not get nauseous. Yeah i picked one for this and it's when she implies that she would eat nikki massages pussy but like classy style but it's not helping me focus on that. It's just i'm still spinning. I'm fucking. There's just so much. They're like so much of what i what i take away from. This poem is that this is a person who has basically made a career out of calling people racist if you don't like benjamin netanyahu who and the entire purpose of the slam poetry is that she's a better rapper drake little win a hate blacks. What is what is your opinion on do rags what like how does that. She does not like a fan. People should they our political signal. People should pull their pants up. That's the line was i'd build a quilt with seems dreams rather than swag and do rags eggs so like do rags. The opposite of like dream looks like it looks like it's like a wave check at eight pack. Jack thinks she understands that. It's a functional garment literally. She says that she thinks that her dream quilt would would be one of spiritual enlightenment and not just crass material pursuits other rappers material pursuits like duress most few back to eighty cents. I'll go white jewish friend who bought a derogatory sixth grade. That could all right. I am now not going to be satisfied until i can get more rap inspired by ted talks this was this is like everyone okay. Hey look what i mean. He wanted lyrical cookout. Many have said it's the worst thing ever recorded but this is actually bourdier. This is worse than <unk>. Lous cut all of those off before we go this friday at economic on in providence the call of lose saga continues live live live on stage at the i think the columbus theater in providence this friday tickets still available by by those those tickets in the link for the show description. We've also unlocked our latest. Call could lose saga the musk's of naira lockstep. What are we say guys great ship man yeah. That was dope. I just i just want that. Ted talk rap concept. Album would be ideal providence. Everybody by by the it's rick was watching jackie. Gleason gets down the captain for for no fucking reason l._s._d. Or what food the ball you're willing crash the like. There's a store your boss for the war caproni. I alligators each raw back to the folks lose touch the third rail ticket now. You're just god suicide guy the ball.

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Bradley Edwards

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

1:33:08 hr | 1 year ago

Bradley Edwards

"Welcome welcome. Welcome to armchair expert experts on expert I'm Pete Sampras, and I'm joined by John McEnroe. More about tennis. Really really. I should call you Billie Jean King Probably. Oh have been nice. Yeah. Because you're female and so is she yeah, and she's the best and she was the best. I don't know she is the Best Serena and right? Serena. Love to get high. On Today though it's not today. No, you know once in a blue moon will hop into some topical conversation and it's really fun and that's what we did on this. Now, we both consumed the Epstein podcast series which was fantastic, and we also watch the netflix documentary. It's an endlessly fascinating story. It's horrendous on all levels, exposes the levels of corruption that really are currently happening that we pretend to heart. Yeah, youth, it is nasty in. So many ways the size of it is overwhelming. Now, the Edwards is a nationally recognized board certified civil trial attorney who specializes in providing civil representation for children, victims of sexual abuse victims of violent crime. He most notably was the attorney of more than twenty alleged victims, of Jeffrey, Epstein and continues to fight for them. Them to this day, we really gotTa Bang Out of talking to Bradley. We'd seen in the documentary, but we found him in person to be just so darn likeable and fun to hang with. Right. He just kind of walked us through the story and it's a lot to take in, but it's important to take in. Yes. In the weight of the things, he knows that he's still can't publicly say must be Oh my God. So daunting. Well, this is tasty interview. So please enjoy Bradley. We are supported by squarespace. Now, there's so many reasons one would need a website. We have a website armchair expert, pod, Dot Com. It's a beautiful user friendly website and we made it at squarespace. 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You're not as a trial attorney anything done. There's no trials, no trials. In fact, we're being told that when they come back that all the judges are going to have to concentrate on the criminal trials, speedy trial and things like that. So civil trials are put on hold probably realistically for another year, Oh. My goodness. Wow. You represent many of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. How many victims right now, fifty six. Oh my goodness. Wow. Fifty six, and so you know I don't WanNa do I wanna walk through what happened for anyone? That's not listened to great podcasts that was about this or watch the great netflix's documentary. It was it. NETFLIX's. The Great Netflix documentary about it. Let's let's together walk folks through Jeffrey. Epstein. was and how he came to be this prolific monster monster a good. So Jeffrey Epstein, it's best to kind of work backwards. We all learned that he was this kind of. wealthy. Control Freak. who had this penchant for engaging in sex with very young women and girls as young as fourteen years old. But he kind of worked into that. You know that was what ultimately was revealed. But if you rewind time, you know you go back to the seventies. He's this teacher at the Dalton school and nobody really knows how he got the job, and then he gets plucked out of there to bear stearns and nobody really knows how he got that job and. You know it's like he conned his way into everything. He was very smart and very charismatic, and you know I met him several times. Can I just say? Yes. So admit we were watching the documentary both Monica and I were like you know it would be allied and not say the guy was handsome like there's many moments where you're watching him, you're like, oh, he's a good looking older guy, that's. That's how serial killers happen. It's the same thing. There's charisma and a bizarre almost empathy were they know how to master manipulate and I think it, it throws you off the trail a little bit because we have such generic by an area ideas of who have access to sex and who can't. So when it's like a very handsome person whose charismatic enrich you you a little bit go? Well, there's. There's no way he had to do anything scandalous to to have sex. It's helpful to that person. I think to care to have a lot of options. Yeah. Of course, even even say that to me. Really. I'm offering these girls the best life they've ever seen come on. Let's talk about this Kleiner that client they came from the trailer park, they came to my mansion I paid a money you. You know who wouldn't want to kind of jet set and live this life, and now they're coming back and saying they didn't like it and okay, there fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old. But who's to really say what controls who I can be with WHO I can't you know it, he did it charismatic way that almost made, you wanted to believe that. Okay. There's some weird philosophy here that he can. Can almost convince somebody of this. You know. Yeah. was there any moment for you were not to say that you ever lost your objectivity or came under his spell, but were there ever moments where you're like this Guy Kinda likable like wasn't involved in any of this and I ran to him at a dinner party that I might just think the guy was fine every time every time I ever. Ever met him. There came a point in time where he's filed a lawsuit against me and then called me immediately and said, look I will drop the lawsuit against you. If you'll abandon your prosecution against me, you know that was his way of kind of extorting me or attempting to extort me into abandoning my client, and there came a point where we're talking through lawyers where we both decided we're. We're going to get more done if we don't have lawyers there. So let's just start meeting in person, we would meet a coffee shops and start talking embracing person. So there comes a point in time where I use that as a way to feel learn who he is kind of get in his head, and at the same time, he's trying to do the same thing. He wants me off his. His trail and I want figure out how to take him down. So we're we're meeting in person in jousting this kind of intellectual chess game and every time we were only three minutes into every conversation where I find myself laughing at his stupid jokes I, go wait. That's not a bad guy, and then you go way. But I know all of the things that he's done, he's a terrible guy. The definition of a bad guy. I would have to remind myself over and over again and go. Okay. Remember why you're here. Let's stick to it and try to pin him down on what his real game is. How I have you right now and listen to him to talk his way out of it. You know and he was a smart guy. So would sometimes catch you in a situation where he would say, all right, Brad, you're a smart guy. We don't have to get pinned down with all of these nuance, these laws when we're talking about. A. Billionaire who travels from Florida and the age of consent eighteen, and then what I go to new. York. And it seventeen, and then I go to France and it's fifteen and all of the girls are the same. How am I supposed to keep up with all of this? You know biology she kind of dictate things. Don't you think? So his position was there was more of a logistical issue afoot. The laws discriminated against him. They weren't really intended for somebody with his lifestyle. What he would say is I am a victim of arbitrary, circumstance. It's arbitrary rules and I'm supposed to keep up with them. Do you believe he believed that or he was just good? You don't believe he believed that. No, he he didn't believe it. I mean, this is a guy who in high school. He was a nerd by all accounts skipping grades and I think that the people who rejected him the most or the real Freddie. Girls, and he never really had that. So at some point in time when he gets money, he decides he's a Sociopathic, Guy who decides. I'm going to get back at this group. I'm going to control them at some point in time and they become his targets. Yes. He had an affair IUS agenda, but I'll also add here I am at forty three years old. I'm an interview, the guy that's interviewing me as wearing. Air Jordan. Jordan fours right, and that's what I wanted in highschool and couldn't afford and I go to the Guy Wow. Nice Air. Jordan fours. He goes. Yeah. You know you can get them now and I literally go. Oh my God. I. Can Afford Air Jordan fours and I buy them and guess what I just bought the truck I wanted in high school like I'm doing it where I want the Shit I couldn't have in high school. Of course I'm not a fucking scumbag and I wouldn't. Human, right. Right. But I I gotta say it's not beyond my comprehension to think that he was trying to assemble all the pieces that he thought. He wanted in high school and for him those included humans. Yeah. I agree. It's a little more complex because you weren't rejected by the air. Force well, financially a little bit. I guess. But I'm not mean to my Jordan's I, treat them burst. Yeah, exactly. No, he intentionally would target somebody who was very vulnerable prey specifically on their vulnerabilities and try his very best to force them to do things. They otherwise would not do with the intention of harming them. It wasn't only for his own pleasure. He hated women from that rejection and he was a massage s and he wanted to get even in wanted to control them. I ended up having a a mutual friend, not a mutual friend of his use. My friend Jeffrey Epstein was fascinated with guys mind and the guy went to Jeffrey Epstein's island kind of covert for me doing this kind of undercover operation for me and Jeffrey Obscene. Some of his philosophy with them and said, you know I want a system, a new system that won't get me caught to accumulate girls in my friend says, what are you talking about and he says, well, you know women, they're basically a life support system for a vagina. That's how he thought, and so then it was, how can I really a target them and break them down? It was really a matter of just control and do you think you noticed that it was an addiction in that it evolved in got worse and worse and worse and less and less manageable because I guess the earliest case that I'm aware of in you probably know them earlier is when he invited the artists to live at his place at big mansion was and that person was of or they weren't age where they of age that the sisters one of agent one wasn't exactly what was. Okay, there's a couple of case there little bit earlier than that, which show up in the new indictment of Gillan Maxwell and I think short chronology is his girlfriend's Kaylynn. Gallon realizes that Geoffrey is attracted to younger girls. I don't think that he really has the ability to get them. 'cause he's not the guy on the street to pick up girls and natural way. Way Like Ulan is, and so she starts ringing him this fourteen year old this fifteen year old who were very talented people that was really kind of her thing. Bring him talent and he's GonNa pretend to be the Victoria secret scout or he's GonNa, pretend to be the model scout. He can get you into any school that you want, and then the one. One that you're talking about Maria farmer. He brings her in give service jobs. She's that she's a great painter, sets her up a painting for a movie and realizes she has a sister that's ten years younger, Inbetween Gillan and Jeffrey. Then start grooming the younger sister realizing the target age group. Once he gets a taste of that age group, it does become an addiction. Addiction to the point that he personally develops the scheme of paying one victim to go get others and it creates this massive spiderweb. Well, he creates a pyramid scheme when I was watching the documentary on like this is a shared profit multi marketing recruiting. Other people recruit other people in incentivizing everyone along the way and then yeah, just keeps multiplying and multiplying. Right. And he used. Pressure I. Mean. These are things that he studied to psychological peer pressure. If you have a fifteen year old who's convincing their friend, it's okay. They're doing the dirty work for him. Once he gets them there. They have no chance. But other people described it at the peak that it was like breathing air. He needed at three and four times a day he was so addicted we get. That's the part I personally as a normal forty, five year. Old Man, there's no way I could have sex three times a day. So I, was just like this is a pathologist clearly that that no person really wants to fuck four times a day something else is happening here, right? physiologically, how could he even accomplish that I I wondered that myself out, but also it really was not always a matter of sex as much as it was control because there were times where he might have sex in the morning. The next time in the next time in the next time someone comes over. If you really pay attention to details, it usually wasn't actual sex was this. This weird routine of you know not to be too graphic. But Him masturbating while he touches in fondles Yelm, just shielding them right. Like is eating them and yeah. So it's just a matter of forcing people to do things. They otherwise wouldn't do and then trying to normalize it making them. Think a look. This is what the rich and famous do you're just a trailer park kid. Play like you're in my world now. Yeah. If you want to be in this world, this is the barrier of entry. Now, this case what it's really exemplifying is income inequality like without income inequality on the level that exist it really couldn't happen people are so. Desperate desperate, there's so much desk financial desperation that of course, an Epstein can exist because you have so many people that the two hundred dollars is life changing. You know two hundred dollars shouldn't be life changing for anyone in the richest country in the world I was just overwhelmed with that. What's the disparity of power and money was the difference there I. Mean. That's what created that disparity of power people have focused on the underage girls, high school kids that he was paying two hundred dollars because that's what they needed. But there were eighteen nineteen year olds that he victimized just as bad. Some worse by saying, Hey, look, what do you want is eighteen or nineteen? Do you want to go to college I can get you into a college because he had those connections, he roped amend innocently job interviews and things like that, and sometimes nothing sexual would happen for multiple times until he got him into school and they were indebted to him, then he made. Made a move and you felt like you didn't have a chance, right. So all these predators, right? Their bread and butter is leverage to his genius was probably recognizing what leverage he had or what thing they desired, and then exploiting that that's why his side job was to accumulate all of these connections that he had so that he could then utilize those connections with universities and with scientists and with other businessmen and former presidents and whatever it was, and then he could leverage that to get what he wanted from the girls. Right? He's donating all these institutions right, and then he's calling in favors to get his sex slaves, some kind of an interview or something. Exactly. I mean sometimes would call somebody that wanted to be in fashion. He learned of an eighteen or nineteen year old over in Europe and say, Oh, you want a job I can get you a job with and without you know selling anybody down the river, but the top people they come over here thinking, Hey, look I'm getting my foot in the door was what everybody wants right and all of a sudden. They have a job the day that they get here and after two weeks of having the. The, dream job of your life, you're in another country. Now you're at his house and you feel like I have no choice, but to do whenever he's asked me to do. Yes. Just a question and this is kind of a psychological question. But I just wonder your take on it because you know a lot of people hear these stories, this specific Epstein story, but also others of workplace harassment and they say, well, the girl should just say, no or the girl should just leave or the girls should. Be Smart. Enough to pick their integrity over their career, and that's so off base to the power discrepancy was wondering what your take on. That was having talked to these people surely have viewers suing somebody right? Their lawyers GONNA. Definitely. the defendant made that argument like well, this was a transaction. They wanted this, he wanted that. And I also think that you know it's not one size fits all. But with this specific thing that the Jeffrey Epstein was doing, you have to almost put yourself in the shoes of the actual victims. Start by saying I've talked to a hundred or more victims and not a single one of them was able to escape getting abused at least one time not A. So. PIC picture this right. This is a typical scenario. You go over to an eight storey townhouse and you walk in thinking at most you know if you've been told him close to the truth, you might have to give a massage, but some of them is just a you're pretty girl. He might give you a modeling contract either way you're put on an elevator. You're taking up to a floor floor. You're on your taking into a room, you're expecting there's going to be a guy behind a desk you walk in. Now you're alone in a room and a guy comes out naked with a robot takes it off and says, start massaging me. What really are you going to do? Most of them thought I just want to get out of here alive? Alive until you do whatever you're supposed to do, and then you realize, wait this guy's not holding me down. He recognized that come from a broken home or I have these vulnerabilities and he's listening to me, he's talking to he cares. Trying to convince them. He cares keeps pushing limit after limit after limit, and then at the end he actually pays and then he says you can bring others look be like me. You're an entrepreneur and he gets in their heads. The mind manipulation was just unbelievable. So there really wasn't ever a time where somebody says I can just say no and pick my morals over anything and run out that just wasn't the scenario here I think we also underestimate this is something that I came to learn throughout the me. Me Too movement and time's up, which is like hearing the account of some of the gales that Weinstein preyed upon that. You're there for this business meeting about acting and then he's kissing you and it takes a minute for your brain to even comprehend what's happening. How am I getting out of this? By that point? You can be pretty far down the road. He's moving fast in your like your brain can even catch up to that situation and he truly can make or break your career the exactly. Also Jeffrey Obscene to. If you went along with him, he could make your careers. He did with models or he could break and you knew that he actually did have those connections same as Weinstein which I can tell you a funny story when I would talk to Epstein. He was friends with Weinstein. He would call him bet fucking pig. Steam would like put Weinstein down as back as a pig. Kicked him out of my place, one time for trying to screw one of my girls. How Love to try to put himself on some different level additionally if Jeffrey Epstein because you. Probably. fucking big. Exactly. Isn't that such an interesting human thing of justification? Oh. Yeah. That he saw himself as much. Different. Than Weinstein Yeah, we even had a talk one time about Catholic priest I. Just can't that. These Catholic priests do what they do to some of these altar boys when they know that they're using religion as power over them, that's just not fair. You're going I. Feel like you're getting some sick site that out of the fact that you're describing yourself. Yeah. ooh, weird sociopath. How do you explain or what is your theory on d'alene Maxwell or dad was kind of criminal esque or something? He was a rich Guy, right? Who had some questionable ethics and rich fraudster in he dies in some pretty mysterious way in about ninety one, either falls off the boat or throw someone throws them off the boat or Massad Joseph or whatever. The is the join a believe the and. And she almost immediately is introduced to abstain, and Epstein has the money to replace Dad's money, and she has the connections can is real quick. Did get any of the DADS money or was the dad's money confiscated because he was a criminal or what happened with that? allegedly he lost it all because it was discovered after he died that he was this fraudster in stolen from the pension of of all of this employees. And I understand that she didn't get any it. So she needed money and FC needed connections. They were kind of the perfect pair. And then she realized this is this guy who has this crazy sex addiction that I can't fulfil and I. think she would have done anything for him, and so she starts feeding him and just fuels the addiction without her. There would be no defense. We wouldn't be talking when none of this would've happened yet. He couldn't have done all this without a partner. She created him the first people that were brought to him to start this pyramid. They were brought by her none of this could have grown. He could not have become who he was without her, she created the monster. No doubt about. Wow. Let me just also add he is a criminal in a mastermind in this capacity, but he also every element of his life is a con right I mean from beginning to end he. He's teaching ended school. He doesn't have a degree that he should teach their he. Then it goes and works for bear stearns. He shouldn't be there. He got caught and some violations at bear stearns insider trading type thing, and kicked him out, and then he went and worked for another fraudster this. Guy. Steven Hoffenberg who was running a Ponzi scheme who's now running around after he got out of prison saying, yeah, we're running a Ponzi scheme together. Together I mean he took nineteen years in prison and never sold Jeffrey Epstein Out, and then he comes out saying, Hey, we were supposed to split it in Jeffrey. Turned his back on me. Well, of course, he did you're going to prison. So so is that his motivation to stay quiet is that if if one of them stayed out, someone could control the money and then divvy it back up. That's what Hoffenberg says I. Don't really know. But but after Hoffenberg is when Epstein Meets Les Wexner. Yes, and this is a relationship I wanNA know everything. You know about because the ad just watching the show I was like. Okay we'll Epstein was definitely sleeping with the sky, give some context people. The docks. Who is he? Yes. So Leslie wexner created a bunch of huge brands. Victoria's secret the. Limited. So a billionaire many times over, and he also started some weird real estate stuff. Right? He was building like mcmansion communities and stuff in and he himself is gay right is that is that or is that an allegedly gay or is he openly I? Think I think it's allegedly because. His wife and children and okay. So I, I think it's allegedly still. Okay. So allegedly he's gay and what's of factuals he for some reason allows Epstein is be as business manager in make all kinds of financial decisions form right in guide were as money goes in he. Clearly. MUST have siphoned off a ton of his money, right? Because there's really no explanation of why Epstein ends up with six, hundred million dollars or whatever it is other than he had have been ripping off wexner. Yes. So I think right before Epstein Meets Wexner Epstein, discloses, some financials that he's worth somewhere between eleven and twenty million dollars. So Epstein has accumulated some some wealth, but not the extraordinary while we see later, and then he meets webster and what I understand is that webster hubbell investigator does some some legwork on obscene. Obscene because he's looking for somebody who's sharp to manage his is business and they learn that Epstein is kind of a fraudsters griffin who has sold a bill of goods took the Dalton school to bear stearns and still wexner hires in. So I guess he fits the bill whatever is looking for that's interesting wexner hires him and very early on hires him to manage not just an account here there, but his entire life, all of his companies is basically going to manage everything from a tax standpoint from an estate planning standpoint. Again I'm sorry I know it's all allegedly, but I cannot. At. All find motivation for someone is savvy is wexner who built such a Goliath. Successful series of. Companies. Hands over the entire empire, somebody, if he's not head over heels in love with the person I, just I can't see it happening. It doesn't make any sense and I don't know if you've heard the rumors that I have, but I talked to many people who said look everybody in New York at the time said that right? We're lovers I. Don't know that it's true. You know and nobody would testify to it, but they were saying they're lovers. Everybody knows that. Yeah. Again, I have a business manager. I never gave him an apartment in new. York. The guy percentage and that's how it works. You don't. You don't give Your Business, Manager House especially the largest townhouse in all of New, York City. The most incredible house on the whole island doesn't make a lot of sense charges him a flat fee, which I think is over one hundred, million dollars. So so epsteins wealth goes. Through the roof overnight. And then Epstein, at some point in time realizes that Wexner is this rich guy who signed a power of attorney. He's turned everything over. Epstein. Any doesn't watch his own money. So Epstein starts setting up charities and siphoning some money over letting it sit there for a while and then says, okay, look this guy's really not paying attention and he starts stealing from. From Webster I mean I think a lot of it and I don't know how many tens of millions of hundreds of millions is there a paper trail of that? Like had he lived and gone to trial? Is that something that is well documented? I think that there probably is a paper trail I don't think that webster would ever give it up. It's embarrassing. He. Got He. Yeah. I. Think that they say that's why cons are. So successful right is that the people are too embarrassed to go to the authorities. In most cases. Well, I think what Epstein realized is it's a lot more lucrative to steal from the super-rich than it is to go rob a comedian store. That's does the army says especially when someone's a billionaire and isn't going to miss three, hundred, million dollars has a secret. Right allegedly has a secret, keep saying that word so that guy doesn't suit me. So also this episode allegedly. Alleged, interview about criminals. But didn't he? He either gave him or only charge them two million bucks for this. You'll fourteen thousand square foot house in the neighborhood, and then he was allowed to sell it at some point for fifty million or wherever the hell. It was right? Like some crazy other creative ways to just give him tons of money. Yes, and overtime, we did learn of other very wealthy people who were scammed by Epstein of ten million dollars here. Twenty million dollars. There I mean, he really was a this this griff who had so enmeshed himself with A. A with like the upper echelon people in because he had this cloud from connections, there was this believability and credibility that he had, which allowed him to kind of pull off one scam. After another. You know if you Lynn Maxwell knows anything, it's about those scams now is she going to give information about those scams to reduce her sentence enter prosecutors really gonNA care enough about them to reduce her sentence for what is now sex trafficking I. Don't know. But the secrets do lie with her. You know if anybody knows the paper, it's certain. Stay tuned for. More? Armchair. We are supported by Athletic Greens, I don't miss a day with Athletic Greens. I was feeling really dehydrated this morning. So some Athletic Greens and boom, you get an instant pop so much energy. Yeah. Athletic Greens is the all in one daily nutritional beverage for improved health and peak performance. The Perfect I. It just doesn't exist even with a balanced diet getting all. 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He can come and go from this jail sal and he's but but the most shocking part of the plea deal right is that a causa gave him immunity for all co conspirators it. Yeah, I mean. mean. That's one shocking thing. There's so many shocking things about it's like everything shocking about it right named and unnamed, right? So they're going to give immunity to anybody. He has conspired to commit crimes with end. We will learn about does that ever done mean? That's the first time I've ever heard that one, it's never done, but also it was in exchange for nothing. Right. You're not getting anything in return. What's the consideration for that? That's what makes no sense. Yeah. I mean, what did they think that he was gonNA amount such a legal battle that was going to end up dragging on and Co costing the government. So much money that could have even possibly been financially motivated to strike that deal I. don't see how that's possible I. Mean. When you really look at the paperwork, you know we filed the lawsuit. Lawsuit, against the US Attorney's Office for the purpose of invalidating that illegal deal, you know it's an immunity agreement that was struck behind the victims back, which violates the crime victims, rights acts. We file it on behalf of the victims they had located and had evidence that at least forty miners were sexually abused and traffic by Jeffrey up seen an prepared, a fifty three page indictment, and then Jeffrey Epstein informs them of his vast connections me you. You see that in the trail, he hires a bunch of very well known lawyers who know a lot of people that are involved in the prosecution, Department of Justice and things like that, and then all of a sudden, you see it go from an indictment to an immunity agreement or the first drafts of immunity agreement, and at the same time, how're we going to keep the victims in the dark and from knowing about this so that there aren't Aren't any objections to it? I mean, otherwise it's all going to blow up in our face and they very carefully choreograph how that whole thing is going to go away and no one's GonNa know about it gear in So then it takes forty wild walking into my office and telling me this which sounded so unbelievable, it's say look just going to. So so we sued the US Attorney's Office which that lawsuit than kind of grows into. Everybody in the world knowing just how ugly steel was. Okay. So Bradley, where you Ordine Volve, representing some of the victims when that was all happening or did your involvement of come out of that? There were no lawyers representing the victims when that was all happening, but that was kind of the point. It's like epsteins. Lawyers start convincing the government to make it go away. The victims were being told is a massive investigation, just be patient and they're being sent letters that say it's a massive investigation be patient, and so they don't. Do. Anything they're waiting for a trial and meanwhile this immunity agreement assigned. Well, one of the victims according wild comes to me and says, Hey, look what's going on I, can't get anybody to respond. So I start trying on her behalf to get in touch with the government who's giving me information that sounds very fishy which leads to the lawsuit to try to disrupt the immunity agreement, and we find out in court that it was a secret agreement. Agreement that had been signed nine months ago. So we like late to the party that they kept the victims in the dark too long. Yeah. What was the outcome of that? You suing the Justice Department after ten years? The judge ruled in February of two, thousand and nineteen. So I filed that June two, thousand eight that'd be wary, two, thousand, nineteen. The judge finally rules that the government did violate the victim's rights. So we won eleven years later. was there. was there any kind of financial compensation tied to that verdict? No. There was not supposed to be any financial compensation. It was all about invalidating the agreement. Okay. So after we prove that the rights were violated, we say, okay, the remedy is to invalidate the agreement and then when Jeffrey seen died in jail, the judge said, well, it's mood. Nothing you can do about it, and we said it's not moot because he also got immunity for all these co-conspirators. You're. Still invalidate this thing. We have a bunch of co-conspirators running around who also can't be prosecuted now. Yeah now in all of your investigation in your dealings with him in your privy to all kinds of information that most of us aren't is the co-conspirator. Element. Factually substantiated like, is it likely that we will see some co conspirators go down? You're seeing one in gallon. You know, right? And if anybody really digs into the non-prosecution agreement, if covered crimes in a certain period of time two, thousand, one or two, thousand, seven in. Florida. So you're going to see people prosecuted in New York because, Jeffrey. Epstein he didn't just come to Florida commits crimes. They happened everywhere. I got what you won't see. Or co-conspirators that are arrested and prosecuted in crimes in Florida that we know that they committed because of the Non Prosecution agreement unless we're successful potentially have the US. Supreme Court level of getting it invalidated. So that is still binding haunt. So in Florida, they still can't prosecute anyone from that window of time. Right now, they can't unless we win our appeal and I'm not asking you to get in hot water, but do you know of some of the ones in Florida that would be prosecuted, oh? Yeah. Look of the forty victims in Florida I probably represent thirty of them and I know some of the people that were involved in their abuse and and were definitely conspiring with Epstein or even engaged in the acts. Now, what's your take? This is very dicey. So Bill Clinton. Has a good start of the exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I, think it would be I, think people would be pissed if I bring this up. Yeah. Let's do it. Bill. Bill Clinton seems to be on twenty-seven flights or something like that. Twenty, four flights, right? He seems clear. He was went to his island because I like Bill Clinton and I'm a liberal. I'm inclined to make the argument. Well, tons of people took meetings with bill cosby that doesn't mean they were. In what Bill Cosby was doing and he didn't do himself. Any favors acting like he hadn't even flown on the planes I, mean, what are your thoughts about that I mean again, people could have clearly been to his island and not then pedophile, and also it's not a great look to have been at that island. Yeah, I mean, I, think that Bill Clinton's one of those people that we have to be careful to call it like it is with the evidence, not jump to any conclusions. So I'll just kind of lay out what I know what the facts are, two thousand nine when I learned that Jeffrey, Epstein and Bill Clinton at one point time were decently close and that Clinton was at Jeffrey Epstein's homes at pictures in his home at pictures on US plane at flown on the plane. Many Times. I asked to take his deposition. I asked to speak with him and have been met with refusals usually through his lawyer, but hasn't offered anything up I. Do know after speaking with a lot of people including those who were in his presence on some of the trips that I have not heard. One thing that he ever engaged in any sexual acts especially with anybody underage. Well, that's a big relief. That's. I. Think it's important that people know that you know. Yeah. But I, also know that he was on the plane with Epstein and his co-conspirators and some of the victims that Epstein abused, and so he made observations that it would seem like again, let's just be a good person. Tell us what you know. Yeah. So I'd like to hear it, but I don't think anybody should jump to these crazy conclusions which just so far to my knowledge aren't really supported by. Evidence. Okay. One of the most disturbing things to me was that I wanted to take Maxwell's deposition and she escape the deposition. The first time telling me, she was leaving the country because her mom was sick and never going to come back and then I'm walking in my own kitchen and I look at one of my wife's magazines and it's open and I see Bill Clinton and I go holy Shit I. Zoom in and I see it's Lynn Maxwell Front row at Chelsea's wedding, and he's walking down the aisle and I go A. Help me out. Just give me some info. We'll look I was once friend with a guy that's currently being tried for three rapes in l. a. and it's deplorable and I hate it up. But I had nothing to do with that guy secret. I, certainly didn't know anything about that. So it is tricky man. I think it's extra tricky with the Clintons in why there's a constant denial of everything because I do think they get the brunt of a lot of conspiracies are so many people after them. Them all the time that I think they're at the point where they're like, we got a deny everything because we're going to get entrapped in something whether it's true whether it's not true. It's a lose lose for us. We have to deny I'm not saying that's right, but I think that's part of this whole system with them. While also they are in a position where they have this foundation and they are grooming donor. So people with money I'm sure have access to them as is how it works. And it's not. It's not a great look. It's not not ideal. No, it's an allegedly bad luck. Yes. Okay. So right before his death, did he transfer all of his assets to his brother? Is that what happened? No I mean? That's one of those bad news reports. Fake News. Okay. Yet. So two days before he died, he set up his will which it seems the only real legal ramifications were that. Anything that's leftover from his estate that was set up in the Virgin Islands, which has roughly six, hundred, fifty, million dollars in it. After. All the claims are paid. Let's say all of the victims that make claims against the estate after they're paid, then the money will go into a trust. We still don't know who the beneficiaries of the trust. Dr I assume that his brother might be one of them, but I have good reason to believe. There are many beneficiaries I don't know who they are, but that's all that he really did is set this will up, but he didn't do it to deprive any victims of the assets because we're making claims against the estate, a program has been set up, which would I helped them to set up so that victims could be compensated without going through ten years more of litigation the how's that work out like? Yeah, what? What's the process there? So you know early on it was he dies in. So his estate basically stands shoes and each of the. The victims could sue the estate and we worked with the estate lawyers to set up a non adversarial process where they could submit a claim. There'd be a program administrator. WHO's kind of neutral party setup evaluate the claim, make an offer to the victim based on her particular circumstances. The damages that she shows she got accepted or rejected and file a lawsuit. But what victim right now wants to be re victimized through litigation with good lawyers who are going to drag them through this and he's not even alive. Yeah. You can't even see him suffer you. You can't even seem suffered now it's just is money. So process is set up hopefully so that it can remain confidential at least ask the crimes he committed against them. You can't go to jail. He's dead. So I think it's going to be a successful program. We've designed it to be very victim friendly. have any victims receive compensation yet? It's only been up and running two weeks. Oh okay. Yeah. It took us about seven months to get it set up in a way that the state agreed to we representing the victims agreed to and the program. Program, administrators agreed to now while you personally representing fifty six and then there's there's more obviously you don't represent. Yeah. I think overall, there's probably going to be a hundred and twenty five that make claims. Okay. So even if you start with six hundred and fifty million dollars, a one hundred people making claims, you know, yeah, I I don't know how there would be any money left in this estate for anyone to chop up if the program is administered fairly in their really evaluating some of the damages that were really done to some of these people. As. You can imagine there's a continuum. Some of them have done. Okay. Others have not at all. You know it's been devastating to them. I. Don't see how there would be any money left either. Well, there's so much hard data that victims of that type of abuse, just horrendous outcomes of that kind of abuse. That's interesting. You say that because going through these cases, you know these are women who don't know one another. The common denominator is what Jeffrey seen did to them, but the consequences are so similar the number that self medicated with drugs and got into drug addiction or got into escorting. Yeah. Any number of outcomes where people are going to be permanently changed out. So horrendous now. What let's just throw Prince Andrew out there. What is he being sued? He hasn't been sued yet. You know we have clients who met Prince Andrew. He's his own worst enemy. Really you know. This is a guy who is the worst advice ever to do that stupid interview that he did where he tried to say that photograph of him in Virginia Roberts and Glenn Maxwell was like Photoshop because Saddam was too big or something. This is so silly. Can't you just say I didn't she was seventeen years old seventeen years old at the age of consent in England? And move on with your life. Yeah. But he didn't do that. You know that the denial. It doesn't look good especially when there's a photo of it. And then we have been asking him for years to come over and give a deposition. Tell us what you know and he hasn't, and now we have the US attorney's office basically begging him to come over he saying I really want to. But I don't know much like I can't find the United States. Warm there this year. Just, really up. God now. Okay. His death I'm personally of the opinion that he, I. Mean. You really understand just how insanely lavish lifestyle was I mean. Each one of these houses they showed was more fantastic than the last. The fact that he was, what do you have a business Boeing business jet or something? You know he has the most outrageous airplane. I. Mean. This is me personally. I. Think that he sat in that. Cinder. Block box for awhile and said, I'm not GonNa win this one and I cannot live here. This is not an option and I am incapable of eating crow and I refuse to go down that road. Road to me, suicide seems like a very plausible Oh cams razor outcome to that scenario. That's exactly right. That's not as much fun as all of the sensational rumors out there. Right. That's why made a point to put that in to the book that I wrote because there were all these fantastical stories thought listen. I've met this guy down times and he is all about control. He has to control everybody. He can't be controlled for a second. Any SMART Alecky. He was delusional. He obviously, he saw that he had wiggle room in two, thousand eight, any played it out, but there was no wiggle room at this point. Until his bond was denied, he was going to hang in there. Once his bond was denied. He realized I'm never getting out. I'm going to control the last thing I can control, and that's how long I stay here. Yes. I completely agree now on the other hand I. Think if he had stayed there long enough somebody might have killed him. There's no doubt in my mind that he committed suicide that while I'm told they don't like pedophile imprisons. I. Don't think he had many friends there. I, can't imagine that they would have liked to billionaire. Yeah. I think that you know those conspiracy theories made for some funny memes, just doesn't make any sense. So the yeah I think we're probably going to find that he may have buddied up with the guards because remember he's still was a very charismatic guy, and we do have these two guards read the other into the hall saying they checked on him. Every thirty minutes in the video shows, they never got other seat for eight hours. I wouldn't doubt it. If he said Hey guys, I'm cool down here. You don't have to come down so that you know he was sure that he would have time to kill himself. Which is why they're under investigation or let's even go for an even more human thing which is like I. Don't want to get out of this chair and I really fuck that guy kills himself. That'd be my opinion. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not to incentivize to make sure this guy stays alive and I think the world might be better if he's not I mean there's any number of reasons maybe why they didn't do a great job checking in on him. Okay. Now, your book relentless pursuit my fight for the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. When you wrote it, you know you've spent more than a decade of your life involved in this. Did, you learn anything about your own experience in writing this book? Yeah. I wrote it for a couple reasons. One. I had learned that there were others that were trying to capitalize on this sensational story, and we're going to write a book. You know this book about Jeffrey Epstein and the legal process and everything I thought that doesn't make any sense it. It's going to be inaccurate. Nobody knows the story I. I was the one in the trenches. Somebody's going to piece together news stories in imports. That's not fair to the victims I. Think People need to understand who the victims veivers were, how courageous they were. Al. We ultimately trapped Jeffrey Obscene and got him arrested how we brought him to justice from the inside. So or part of my motivation was I don't want to let somebody else screw this up, right? That was my first complaint around the office was I can't believe that somebody else is GonNa take this story, screw it up. It's not fair to our clients and then also as we were doing it, it was Cathartic, you know I needed finality. Yeah. As much as I didn't like him. I still got to know him well and thought man, he's really deprived everybody my clients and me of we spent so much time getting him here, and now he's gone ye aside from the victims I can't imagine there was anyone on planet earth more upset. He killed himself in you. You were this close to a decades of work. And being able to look at him in a courtroom, give found guilty. You know that's what the ten years was about and fuck it man that would frustrate me. Beyond. Frustrated to the point that my office is, we run a very organized trial office where we're constantly chasing bad guys, and let's just move onto the next one and I was finding myself going. I can't believe somebody else going to screw this story up and the world will never know exactly how it was that we ultimately trapped him and I complained enough to wear one of my partners Britney. Henderson says, look why don't you just write the book? Why don't we just do this? I say. Say. Yeah. But we don't have time to do this. Do says, look our workday at six PM. I will literally stay here and listened to you. I said. All right. I'll start talking at six PM and we will just hammer this out and that's what we did. I would start talking she would type and we would start fighting over things because I remembered certain things, I would say this is how the deposition went and she would go look at the transcript say, yeah, that's not really how. The mind is a tricky place. We hammered this thing out in about six weeks, and we would do it from six PM to four in the morning. But we proud of the fact that, hey, six weeks later, we send it to Simon and Schuster and said, Hey, what do you think do we have anything here's or in this and they're like, it's great. We love it. You you put the story together and I just felt good that I did it as opposed to. To, we let somebody else screw the story and did you have any cooperation from any of the victims you represent? Were there women that wanted to be a part of that? All all of them? Every single one I think it's important that this aspect of the story is told everyone was all on board. We Agree I. Mean, the story is told the right way. That's great. Yeah. I have to imagine it's an empowering experience to. Although I'm sure embarrassing and shameful, all these things also empowering to say out loud. What someone did you and I my own experience with being honest about me molested and stuff. It really certainly takes the weight off to just have it out there, and then see that people don't think you're any of these things you feared. They would think you were no in plus we hated them the way that they ought have been painted. They were heroes. They were heroes to me that it was like we needed their voice to make all this happen. Yeah. The thing I felt most bad was I could tell in their interviews that. They had some level of shame for their own victimhood. And then yet, oh, an entirely different bag of guilt and shame for including other people in, and it's really the worst thing he did to them. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. It really is. Yeah. The to make them complicitous. In more is probably so hard for them because that's the guilt that no matter how much therapy they have. It's almost impossible to a race. Like you cope with the abuse that you suffer. But the fact that you brought your friends into it. Yeah. Like you're living with this additional weight and that was his psychological hold you. He created the system to make them complicit and make them feel indebted and make them feel like they were part of the problem. Yes. Did that was no accident that was something he did intentionally. I, I, mean. There's so many layers to this. I. GotTa be honest when I started watching the the documentary I was like I. Don't know if I go down this road, you know The corruption that interested me. So might the abuse of power how it shine a light on how much corruption still really is existing on that level that I think even I was naive to I, mean I. You know I read. Killing Pablo, this great book about Pablo. Escobar in the most part of the whole thing is that he said, okay, I'll surrender if you allow me to build my own prison which he did and he built tunnel. So he could leave whenever he wanted Ne- played fucking soccer games in town, and then he came back in the prison was gorgeous and big screen TV's and I thought that is something that could only happen in Colombia of. From a guy that has eight billion dollars in nineteen, eighty, eight, like that's such. A unique situation that could happen and to see that it virtually happened in Florida. It was so shocking. Yeah. Well, I went into it. So naive to I had just come out of the prosecutor's office myself. In decided I'm going to represent crime victims in civil cases and when Gordy while came to me, I thought I'm GonNa make one telephone call to the US Attorney's office and they're going to say, yes, is this an enormous investigation be patient like we said in the letter in its over it? I think that weight the corruptions real I mean her belief that something nefarious is. is going on is real. Yeah. Turned out worse than anybody can ever imagined. So in the event that the Supreme Court ends up throwing out that deal entirely right, which you say could happen in the future here. Do you think that they'll then lead to any kind of investigation of a Costa or anyone else around him or do you think we'll ever get an answer as to how that deal was made. You know unfortunately I think that the most thorough investigation that will actually be done is going to have to be done by some investigative journalists that cares to get to the bottom of it. Ronan, Farrow, yeah Ronin you're listening. Yeah. Ronin figure this out. I mean that he was just stupid right I. Mean, that's No. One would like. Now you're shaking your head. No. Okay. He's not stupid. Okay. Around not bad. There's much more to it. How hard was it to? have to edit out things in the book that you know you want to say, but that legally you can't say was that the breaking part of the book. So painful, we wrote the book in six weeks in the editing process was four months. In, you're taking out things that you're going. You've gotta be kidding me I. Mean, we know this from three different sources. But if there's not a document than all the sudden, we can't say it come on. It is a painful thing that the the truth sometimes you just can't. You can't get it all out. There's a couple of things about that. Shocked me that seemed consistent with him in general, he did shy. Shy Away from publicity and that does seem to be the thing that traps most people right as people wanna be recognized in generally did keep a pretty low profile, right? That is a guy that could have been doing interviews every other day sort of, but remember he. So he set it up so that it would look that way right that that he's kind of wants to stay at the limelight but he. He has gallon out there who is pumping him up and making him even more important. You know he's the wizard of, Oz. He's almost too important to even interact with the most powerful people in the world, but she's out there telling everybody just how philanthropic and powerful and all masterful that he is. Yeah. So it was kind of a ploy that, hey, I don't really want to be that well known when. When, he really has his minions on the street by proxy. Yeah. Exactly. So what's ahead for her? I'm just curious like what's the next step they have taken her into custody, but they wouldn't have done that if they didn't already have their case, right? They don't arrest someone before they had their case. So they already have their case against her I would imagine, Yep, they have charged your with six crimes which. To enticement of minors for sex on three victims, dating back to the nineties, and then charged with perjury for two counts of lying under oath and civil deposition that we took, and the trial is set for next July. So she's denied bail, she sitting in jail waiting for trial. That's all that's really left for her. Are you allowed to? You've met her in? Are you allowed to tell me what you're just feeling about her was? Sure I mean in meeting Gillan Maxwell I would say that she's one of these people who walks in the room and tries to make everybody believes she's the most important person in the room, but also at the same time that she's better than everyone in the room I, mean that's the feeling that she tried to give off. You know in the deposition room she's too important just too important for the whole process rights. She's above the whole thing did. Did. She have any of the charisma that Epstein had I didn't see it, but I've heard about it. You know I mean I've heard from many people that she's the life of every party and she's a chameleon she can blend in with anybody, but she was on the defensive and depositions are not comfortable for anybody. No matter who you are. Yeah. All my guy. By the way it was you that asked the question about is fucking penis. Right. Walk a moment. What did they say like a potato with a? Song. It. All my goodness. So most of the ridiculous questions that were asked to get under his skin were me in-depth positions. But that particular one every time we got a deposition of him yet, the symbol, this large group of attorneys, which was a real pain in the ass. Yes. Symbol this large group for that deposition, and it was another lawyers deposition. That was the first question how? We. Room ten minutes we just set up first question. Is it true Sir that you have an egg? Because, he had to imagine, wow, that's the icebreaker. This thing is going to get even earlier, but you see scenes face. He Kinda smirks at it like I don't know do. Now was drugs a part of this whole thing. Not. At all epsteins never drank used drugs in his life. Oh, my God absolutely against it, and when he would catch any of the girls on the island, you would send him home rail out. That was something. You were not allowed to have any anywhere in his presence while that would that would diminish his control. Romley, me they were. Totally. Right. And I've heard some of his girls actually got kicked off the island for having cocaine there. But although I do know of some of his friends that he hung out with who had cocaine problems. In fact, kind of funny story in two, thousand, nine, two, thousand, ten, I went to serve with subpoena. One of his friends in New York in the process server literally walked up to his friend, serve him any turned around and put his hands behind his back he. Thought, he, was being arrested PARANOID UNKOWN Oh, boy oh boy. Oh, boy will Bradley. I'm very excited to read your book and I am glad that you are attempting to give the gals closure and yourself closure, and it must have just been the most frustrating outcome that no-one got to look in his face and say, fuck, you man, you did not get away with this. Yeah. That's true I. Mean it was nice to see him at the bail hearings and things like that, but you're right the ultimate. Ultimate justice. Just we did. We'd get and I. Commend You for just staying on the trail the whole time. I. Mean. He could have tired people out. You know he could have won the war of attrition and I'm glad you're a hound dog and you wouldn't get off of it. I appreciate it. Well, great to meet you Bradley I. Really Appreciate You walking us through that and giving us some insight on one of the more compelling crazy horrify horrifying. You. Know Stories of the last twenty years. It's wild. Thanks for having me on I. Really appreciate it. Yeah. Absolutely I. Hope we chat again I would love it. 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So early, today Oh, my God, because we had a big gas and I was nervous. Yeah. Sprang awake at five am and I was like time to work. Together you. You only have six hours. It's a big week for as we had a guest today, we have A. Titanic Guest Tomorrow That's not a Leo DiCaprio Hint No. It's not Leo DiCaprio although. We would love to have him on. Leo Leo. We love to have you. Come out. He's a cute boy. He is a cute boy. With. Them like six times and I've never had a conversation with him. Really. Yeah. a couple of mutual friends plan heartache de he is. Well, it's. All flustered I do love a man. He's so fucking tales. He's such a big star that I always think I'm not gonna be able to stop thinking that it's Leonardo di Caprio. Is that make sense and then every time I do every time I always that fucking good. Yeah. He's just the cutest face. Oh, it's very cute face. It's interesting because he was like boyishly cute, but he got very handsome. Transition. He had a both. It's what it is. Is the grass was greener on both sides. He had boyish good looks and now super handsome. How come? He doesn't want to marry you well, yeah. I'll come there or maybe he does we'll see what it's like when he comes on at some point I, think the only reason you. May You. Nice Litas. Yeah. That's my guess. I want you to marry him. 'CAUSE I. Guess He's got dinosaur bones in his house. I, heard he's got like a t rex skull. Irwin you want me to grab it for you know just want you to invite me to your new House with Leo. Let me look at that dinosaur. Okay. Won't talk to me. Go over there. Probably have like five six dinners with you guys, nothing. First of all I feel like you'd feel protective, but also you'd feel of you start dating him. Yeah. Sure. I'd have to shake him down in a way that I never would normally need to shake down because I'm your dad. Yeah. I. Know and my dad is not going to shake him down at all real dad, your biological, but not year father who raised you. You my dad. Current my current dad impertinent like saying that because I makes it sound. That's true. It's got to be something about regional dad like I'm here basically is what's going on. Standing My Stanton Dad would be you and you'd be shaking him down, but he would be so good applying hard to get that. You wouldn't be able to do that, and then you're going to get mad I could see you getting really mad in this scenario could happen because here's the thing I. It doesn't bother me at all that he's never talked to me when I've been around him. I have recognized the extreme cumbersome nature of how famous he is like each on everyone's mind anywhere. He's at palpable, and so I have always been like. Are you like the gate shot I, got my friends and I'm good. Yeah, I, WANNA. Leave the House and on me and I wanNA talk to everyone is around me. So I've always had no problem with it, but now you want my daughter's marriage. You got to chat with me or it's GonNa get physical. attack. Them saying Oh. My Real Dad's GonNa have to get involved because he's not going to want his son in law and his other dad partner is. Sivy of Seddon Oath. Things are going to get. I, maybe we should just skip this holyoke. Pick someone surely someone else has a Toronto Source Rex skull on Their House K. I'll do some research, find that person in Mary them. Please you know what is going to be hard. Tell me when I marry Leo. Another hardship is I'm GonNa want him to move into my house. Bright, but he's probably GonNa want to stay at his house. It's it's most assuredly bigger enough of more value if it can house a t rex skull and like you can walk around. This is going to be a problem with a lot of my husband's like Brad Pitt. And Brad Brad might live. He might my life to live in my house Brad. Feels like he likes cozy. architecturally specimen house pessimistic. He he insists on specimen actual design. Yeah, and that's what my house. Absolutely. It's screams pessimistic, but Leo might not like it because there's probably not that much space for his dinosaurs. There isn't a room in your house that would accommodate rex, maybe the living room. But I I don't even know I think the width. Make it hard to walk around in the living room. We're going to have so many fights about this because I wanted to lead cumbersome t rex. And I wanted to look aesthetically pleasing. Just, arrive and he's never here. He's. He's doesn't trust us now not what it is. He's just being really careful in doing the right thing and we're proud of him. Anything's we're diseased. DAX, he does. Not Want you on your microphone over there. Lou He looked so cute today. He's got a little hat on and do it looks little. Very little boyish. No? It's a normal size, half the. Propeller. That's no. No. No, he's not my son's hat. Not your son's hat now. Okay. So we're going to pause to make a video. We're going to resume looks resume. Zoomed Yo. It's August and. We have been in quarantine. We have since mid-february. Were very privileged. luxurious. One where we got to travel is a pod once helped. ooh, that help. Anything that was a big shift in everyone's attitude. Yeah. It was. It was nice. People were in the doldrums just prior to that. All speak for myself. I was in the doldrums. Need a little something to look forward to. I. Got a couple of things right now. I'm going to do a review of the track hawk. Let's that s UV that makes seven hundred horsepower, and I'm going to willow springs on Saturday. To test that for top gear. And I think some of the test beyond the race track and some will be on an off road course because it's an SUV. Really, really excited. Really that's fun. Can I be on top gear? We never have anyone on, but if we had someone on yes, Oh, it I do. Jump car. Agean. We'll. It'd be like I'll set it up for you. Make it real easy. A was put you in the car and I'll say go this speed. That's all you got to go this speed twenty, seven miles an hour. And hit the ramp and you'll be fine. What did you feel scared? If you knew, I. was doing that. You know weirdly have see some bizarre confidence that you would do. It really learned to play the drums on five minutes. Okay. Did that my my opinion of what you're capable of his going through the roof. Off like one of coordination. You'd be great at jumping ship. Okay. I'm. GonNa have my agent. Pass. Pass. Yeah. Passing on the. Opportunity. On the potential. So you're excited about that in that annual. Excited about what started this whole thing. We have a mega guest tomorrow and you're excited about that and I'm excited I dare say this is the best we could possibly do. Ya Yeah Yeah I'll say that too. We really compared it to like we named everyone. Would you rather this person? Would you rather have this person? Nobody I know there was a tie? Yeah. Yeah. Obama. Yeah. It's not Obama. It's not Obama but he was the tie. He was the only time. I don't even know. which is crazy. No. Yeah. Actually WanNa, talk more to the person. We're GONNA. Talk to you. Tomorrow. Oh. Man. Oh Man. Yeah. The simulation. It's the first time I told my mom. That I was interviewing someone, but I told me mom over facetime yesterday and she just was like, can you believe it i? Know from Milford Miss. Got Pretty excited and I did too. I told my parents tune. They were excited. Oh. Yeah. What they say they weren't excited now. Of course, not. They never will be exactly. So stinking Indian. Well. They're not stinky in end Lincoln. Stink in. Yeah. They're not stinky Indians some people think the Indians are stinky. Who thinks that people are you sure people don't think the food is, yes. That's all connected. Yeah I get really triggered. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I understand all the food has a very distinct fragrance as does spaghetti. Pizza. Exactly. Yeah Love Spaghetti and pizza me too. But we would love Tiki Marsala. We had yesterday not Tico Tico. Marcella. That's okay. More Sala. Well, we had it and it was delicious Oh my God, and then I've proposed having a new doctors cleanse. Right? which is not Tika Marsala superfood cleanse. Yeah. That's just eating meals a day. Yeah. And what I think is even though I love it so much. They'll be times over the course of the week where I'm going on rather just not. Going to have a third portion of this, and it's going to have like a caloric reduction built into it. because. You'll just tire of. Cherr-. anyways. I think it's going to be the next. Big. Diet. Oh, boy. It feels like a superfood feeling. It's got everything you need. Only. Saying. So, hard when I say we just call Tim. We can call what it is because you can do it. Tika Marsala. Yeah Okay, this doctors I, he can sell US cleanse brought to you by this doctor. The inherent caloric reduction element. Yeah. I got imagine. It's a very complete with the rice and the chicken, the protein, the car, the you got. The sauces, a tomato base. Some vitamin C. probably in there I think he's a pretty comprehensive dish. Probably got some turmeric to Merick ballet calling turmeric. Well, are you gonNA play the Indian card right now. Tomb Rick I know but I think Indians called Turmeric Turmeric. So they spell it t. you are I think Oh, my gosh. I now I get it. I. Don't Think Idaho. Anymore. Any group of people, any population that would pronounce it turmeric when it's spelt tomb. Tumor. Merick, it's not the tumor rick. Oh. It's been a long time. It has. It has been nice reprieve. God, even Luke over you can't are you eating you. You. Eating your. Like the Terminator. I or is it a? Humor? Eric. It's not to mirror I on. All right. A little bit five percent of the audience likes that Andy missed it I ninety five likes. Reaction to it, it seems a little hot sitting here. So they don't have to be around me yeah. I. Think I. Look Cute. Liz is the problem this star. Yes. You're right. It's hard. It's very, very hard start especially if I find their voice legged. Throat, it. Gets. To do all the time. I'm over. BPA. Official okay. Man I mean look at your reaction. It's Vaughn. That's why I think only five percent because you're violent area acting because you cannot stop even when you're trying to stop and there's something horrifying about it. Oh impulse control. Start swinging or something. I know. I'll give no control. That is true. And I feel like you don't like Seamy, Miata. Yeah, Okay Yeah. That's fair. Through that allow so hard not to do right now. Ham Breeze. is feels terrific. I know I think I feel really uncomfortable. Not Safe. Exactly. Okay. Okay. So Brad Edwards read was a party I'm gonNA label him apart. Well, it's not very often we get like Iraq and expert on his kind of a ragtag partier now that he is a partier, but I think he likes to get them what they call him a party, I call him a charity fundraiser. It's fun, but it's also very. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. The guy is incredible, but but he's also like you go. I'd love to go on a trip and rent jetskis with that guy. Sure what a? Peace As-. We look you're struggling for award and I thought. Just, what a life he's living. Yes. Inundated in this story and helping all these women. He's you. Of the wheel of this crazy story. Okay. So the name of the Epstein Doc which I, very much encourage everyone to watch. You haven't watched it is. Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich. It's on Netflix good title filthy rich. I looked at the age of consent in different states. Yeah I did this the other day to it's all like sixteen and above basically ones under sixteen anymore. But just ten years ago. There were many places that it was fifteen. There are several places that thirteen in the eighties. It just as recently changed. Yeah. Sixteen is the minimal which still I was surprised by that I thought everywhere was eighteen. I. Don't know I would imagine what gets tricky is that it's not abnormal for a sixteen year old the data nineteen year old right, and so you're in a pickle. Illegal to be with a sixteen year, old is an adult than no one that's eighteen or above can data six, which is in high school. Many eighteen year. Old dating many sixteen. That's right. That's true. So I think it'd probably just cumbersome. That's interesting. But then some states have these mutual laws where. For instance, illegal to have sex under sixteen. In some states, fifteen year olds would have sex. There are states where they would try to prosecute the boy in. The many states have specific exclusions of both parties are minors. Because, they can even get like when when a seventh grader sends a nude picture and then another seventh-grader fords, they can charge that seventh grader with trafficking or or underage pornography even though they're both. Wow minors, but but some states have an exclusion for if both people are. Others known as interesting as predicted. California's eighteen. It is that makes sense and Georgia's sixteen makes. Yeah. Makes Sense Michigan is. Also sixteen. Yeah. That holds Okay. So what's confusing about this is that he won after ten years the overturn like. He finally got a court to look at the case. upheld. And then finally they're like, yeah, we're going to break this open, which is what's currently happening. Okay. So that's kind of what I meant about his. Fortitude in. He's saw it through to that end. He said to after ten years we won. But then they said it doesn't really matter anymore. It's moot because he's dead and he's like, no still matters because of the CO conspirators. So, that's confusing because now they're still working on getting that coke. I don't understand because they won, but really they didn't win. Well. No. What what's happening. I guess. My understanding of it was he wanted trial. Basically, he got to make his case. It didn't get upheld at some level I. Don't know if they're the supreme quarter one under whatever it is finally got to a court that was like, yes, we're GONNA look at overturning this. In if they overturn in which they haven't done yet. Okay. Then they can go after all the co conspirators, but currently, they're still protected by that until it is overturn. Overturned correct the but. I felt like he was saying. That it's being heard in, that's where it's going. Okay. I was a little confused on those details Oh. Yes. So Prince, Andrew said that picture is unreal drywall look real. It looks really real and everyone in it says the thrill. Professor of digital forensics and image analysis at UCLA. Oh I'm going to trust this now you are. He said, the picture is not manipulated. So you said he was a UCLA professor A. Professor. Did. Because there. He hangs out there. You'll get, you likes the commissary. What kind of food do they have at the commissary nothing? Outstanding. But there was a cute little. You know what? I don't know what your college experience, what you lived on college campus. So you're probably walking across the whole thing. ANTHRO throws all in like a very specific area of the campus and I just drove there everyday and then I drove back. So there's probably some options that were good that I didn't even know about. There's is a cute little cafe of our buildings and I'd go in and have a little treat. But I was on such a budget. I couldn't really eat at those places. Yeah. That's what we had were chick fillet. Get the fuck out at the on camera versity Georgia. Yeah. What a joke. I know. Free tuition. For tuition, water, Joe. Oh. My God, well, maybe. For some I wonder though if they're they're a little taste of the chicken sales is so great that the offsetting the tuition expensive holly were. Yeah. There's huge line every time of course. Yeah. It moves fast okay and you're in it. How many times a week most days most this is before. You're that they were anti of. Hugh. So this professor. This professors superfood glimpses, professors, I commentary, Diet. He said, the lighting from the flash shows no inconsistencies with a strong cash out. With a strong cash shadow for the figures. This. Is All Talk I. Don't know much about very technical jargon. Eric E-eh also scratch your tongue in the middle of it like I want to know if you can walk the listener through what happened. You got a mouthful there eating get one of the words out. So you you appeared from my angle to scratch your tongue. Early abruptly and then you said it again. But I gotta work. So. What happened? was. A cat hair on your tongue. In my mouth Oh, just. My Gum out quickly. Stretched your tongue really quick like too much. The the word from the movies, super? Frail chip. Super Calo. Fragile Listrik XP does yeah. That's what it looks like happened. Keep tongue books Brad. Pitt. If I could do that. It seemed to me in really quickly I was like, oh, she's experiencing numbness todd's paralysis, and she wants to bring it back online with a little little quick jab pain wake everything back up and get it online. I. Can't believe that. Was You taking your gum out of your mouth? It looks so much like you scratch. Believe it wasn't clear. What was happening. You. Brought it up because we would've just thought I. was doing something crazy. I'm glad about that, and then also, of course, glad about your action because I thought it was at great risk pointed out because I didn't know if you're going to get embarrassed. I think he did get embarrassed. What's making you laugh a good outcome. No. I'm not embarrassed scratching. My tongue would have been embarrassing but taking my call. fucking. Come out is normal. Very normal. Yeah. Okay. So so he points out, it's unlikely Andrews head or body. Could have been spliced into the pitcher. He said, it can be difficult to get the body poses just right when splicing two people together, the fact that the two figures are so seamlessly closely placed next to each other suggests that this is unlikely to be a full body splice of Prince. Andrew. Also, first of all, what a waste of time that anyone had to analyze secondly. Here's what happens with that photo expert. He looks at, he's like Shit looks real to me. He's like now. I, gotta come up with some reasons why I think he's clutching at straws. The by shadow pattern. Body transfer would have the telltale signs of a digital fair, digital? Shimmer? dropdown shadow of three percent of greater. He looked at it and he's like this shit's real I know. There's also stuff we don't know about that a forensics digital expert knows and we are nearing a time where it'll be indistinguishable. Yeah. They'll be able to do my face in my voice like an ai just needs this show what a three hundred hours of us talking that'd be plenty enough for them to build. Well, that's like that deep fakes. Or they put celebrity faces on other people's body I've never seen it, but I understand Kristen's one. Yes, she is touring now. Assault. Yeah. Also, don't think anyone's put my face on anything I. Guess. That's what I'm saying I. Feel left out even though if they got included a yellow salt, but I'm now on the outside, see you understand. Data. I do I do. Here's another like just. It is what it is difference between men and women for obvious reason. For very obvious reasons. But in no guy in the world, if he found out a woman at masturbate to anything of him, like him talking on a talk show pitcher of him. I got Magid in the high ninety, nine percent. Guys would just be flattered and I get it I. Know The difference I know that we're aggressive in predatory and all that stuff. But with that said, it is interesting. HOW DRASTIC THE DIFFERENCES? Right? Because I'd say ninety. Eight percent of women would be horrified to think of a man masturbating to images of them that they didn't know. Yeah. It's just one of these really stark differences. Yeah. We men and women. Again. With power structure context make sense, but it's so stark. That's true. Who who you're thinking of me. Well listen. I. Think many girls if they knew a guy saw them. and. Thought like she's pretty or I like her. Everyone likes that, but it's it's once it starts getting into this like sexual perversion secrecy. No consent power. Stri am as be clear as day I am not defending it. I'm always saying any guy. No, it'd be like who walked off thinking of me. You'd have their interest in a good way I. Think it's also just sheer numbers like women. I don't think some people might, but I don't think women generally like see a video. And then are like I, have to masturbate right the second like I have no control over my buddy and I have to write like they make the choice to look I. Think. Both things are true. I. Think a high percentage of women don't watch pornography or visually stimulated the way guys are. But but also there's a good amount of women who watch pornography. I don't mean porn. Okay. I'm talking about like you're saying like watching someone on like a talk show. Yeah Boys Boys Boys, boys. Boys. That's all. That's everything. Yeah. Okay. So the it appears that the photo Israel yes. Were unclear about this decision and the. Court case and we'll let you know about this doctors, Diet Tika Marsala, diet and I don't think people know the context for that. That would care, but there's been to this doctors diets. I, don't think we've ever really. I, don't think. So Oh. It started a couple years ago when I did this doctors first superfood, Clinton's that's right and all eight was Broccoli and spinach for a week, and by the way, this doctor is DAX. That's right. Yeah. It there are a lot of scrutiny at the home about whether or not this doctor superfood first superfood cleanse was good mainly by me skeptics, you're you're very skeptical, but then this doctor came out with another diet call. What was it called this doctors worst superfood cleanse right, and it was all the junk food I made all in my twenties. Fund. That was way more fun than the first. Super. We had about six meals is. was still in heavy rotation and now this doctors. Peak Marcella superfood plans. Vietnamese in that are going to be real, they'll be my challenge. Year overcoming them. Vietnamese. Yes that sounds really wrong. That's exactly right AMIS. Yeah. Now, I'm getting in my head about it 'cause Vietnamese. Yeah. Okay Next time.

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#99 Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal.

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#99 Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal.

"You can't handle the truth while part one and part two of the series. The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal too big to fail have focused on the widespread nature of sexual blackmail operations in recent American history and their ties to the heights of American political power and the US intelligence community. One KEY ASPECT OF EPSTEIN ZONE SEX trafficking, and blackmail operation that warrants examination is epsteins ties to Israeli intelligence and his ties to the informal pro Israel philanthropist faction known as the group. The mega-groups role in the Epstein case has garnered some attention as epsteins main financial patron for decades billionaire Leslie Wexner was. A CO founder of the group that Unites Several well known businessman with a pension for pro Israel and no philanthropy I- philanthropy benefiting a single ethnic or ethno religious group. However, as this report will show another uniting factor among mega group members is deep ties to organized crime. Specifically, the Organized Crime Network discussed in part one of the series which was largely led by notorious American mobster Meyer Lansky by virtue of the role of many mega group members as major political donors in both the US and Israel several of its most notable members have close ties to the governments of both countries. As well as their intelligence communities has this report and a subsequent report will show the mega group also had close ties to two businessmen who worked for Israel's Mossad, Robert Maxwell and mark rich as well as the top as rarely politicians including past and present prime ministers with deep ties to Israel's intelligence community. One of those businessmen working for the Mossad Robert Maxwell will be discussed at length in this report Maxwell who was a business partner of Mega. Group CO founder Charles Bronfman aided the successful MOSSAD PLOT TO PLAN TO TRAP DOOR IN US created software that was then sold to governments. And companies throughout the world that plot success was largely due to the role of a close associate of then president Ronald Reagan and an American politician close to maxwell who helped aid Reagan in the cover up of the Iran. Contra scandal years later Maxwell's daughter gives Lane Maxwell would join Jeffrey Epstein's inner circle at the same time Epstein was bankrolling similar software program. Now being marketed for critical electronic infrastructure in the US and abroad that company has deepened troubling connections to Israeli military intelligence associates of the trump administration and the mega group Epstein appears to have ties to Israeli intelligence and has well. Documented ties to influential Israeli politicians in the megagroup. Yet those entities are not isolated in and of themselves as many also connect to the organized crime network and powerful alleged pedophile discussed in previous installments of the series. Perhaps, the best illustration of how the connections between many of these players often meld together can be seen in Ronald Lauder a mega group member former member of the Reagan administration longtime donor to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel's Likud party as well as a longtime friend of Donald Trump and Roy Cohn from cosmetics heir to political player one often overlook yet famous client. And friend of Roy Cohn is the billionaire heir to the estate lauder cosmetics. Fortune, Ronald Lauder Lauder is often described in the press as a leading Jewish philanthropist and is the president of the World Jewish. Congress yet is many media profiles tend to leave out his highly political passed in a statement given by Lauder to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman in two thousand eighteen the cosmetics heir noted that he has known trump for over fifty years going back at least to the early nineteen seventies according to Lauder has relationship with trump began when trump was a student at the Wharton School at. The University of Pennsylvania which lauder also attended though the exact nature of their early friendship is unclear. It is evident that they shared many of the same connections including to the man who would later count them both as his clients. Roy. Cohn, while much has been said of the ties between cone and trump cone was particularly close to Lotteries Mother Estee Lauder born Josephine mentzer estee was even counted among cones most high profile friends in his New York Times Obituary a small window into the lauder cone relationship surfaced briefly in two thousand, sixteen article in Politico About Nineteen eighty-one dinner party held. At cones weekend home in Greenwich Connecticut, the Party was attended by Ronald Lauder Parents A. N. Joe as well as trump on his then wife Ana who had a weekend home just two miles away that party was held soon after cone helped secure the presidency and had reached the height of his political influence at the party cone offered toasts to Reagan to then Senator For New York Alfonse D'Amato who would later urge Ronald Lauder to run for political office two years later in one thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, three Ronald Lauder whose only professional experience at that point was working for his parents cosmetics. was appointed to serve as United States. Deputy Assistant Secretary of defense for European and NATO affairs. Soon, after his appointment, he served on the Dinner Tribute Committee for a dinner hosted by the Jewish fraternal and strongly pro Israel Organization night breath the parent organization of the controversial anti-defamation League ad L. in Roy cones honor cones influential. Father Albert Cohn was the longtime president of nybro powerful New England New York chapter and Roy Cohn. Himself was a member of Brits Banking. and Finance Lodge. The dinner specifically sought to honor coin for his pro Israel advocacy and his efforts to fortify Israel's economy and its honorary chairmen included media, mogul, Rupert, Murdoch Donald Trump, and then head of bear stearns Allan Greenberg, all of whom are connected to Jeffrey Epstein during his time as Deputy Assistant Secretary of defense lawyer was also very active in Israeli. Politics and had already become an ally of the then Israeli representative to the United Nations and future prime. Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu lauter would go on to be one of the most important individuals in Netanyahu's rise to power particularly during his upset victory in nineteen, ninety six and a major financier of Israel's right-wing Likud party in Nineteen eighty-six the year that Roy Cohn died lauder left his post at the Pentagon and became the US ambassador to Austria where his tenure was shaped by his confrontations with the then Austrian president and former. Nazi. Collaborator Kurt Waldheim Lawyers Interest. In Austrian politics has continued well into recent years culminating in accusations that he sought to manipulate Austrian elections in two thousand twelve after leaving his ambassadorship lauder founded the Ronald S Lauder Foundation in one, thousand, nine, hundred seven, and later went on to run for mayor of New York against Rudy Giuliani in one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine lauder was encouraged to run by then senator. Alfonse D'Amato close ties to Roy Cohn and his longtime law partner Tom bowline who was. D'Amato's advisor at the aforementioned nineteen. eighty-three Ni- breath dinner honoring Kung D'Amato was the featured speaker. The likely reason was that Giuliani. Though once an ally of the Roy Cohn machine was at the time deeply disliked by the late cones associates for prosecuting cones former law partner Stanley Friedman for racketeering conspiracy and other charges. Giuliani also had a history of bitter disagreements with D'Amato lawyers primary campaign though unsuccessful was noted for its viciousness and it's cost as it burned through. More than thirteen million dollars a few years later in the early nineteen nineties, lauder would join a newly formed group that has long evaded scrutiny from the media but has recently become of interest in connection with Jeffrey. Epstein scandal the Mega Group blotter Epstein in the mysterious Austrian passport before getting to the mega group, it is worth noting one particular act apparently undertaken by Lauder while he was US ambassador to Austria that has recently come to light in relation to. The arrest and early July of Jeffrey. Epstein of finding first reported by journalists Edward Saul when police recently discovered an Austrian passport with epsteins picture and a fake name after raiding, his Manhattan residents, the source and purpose of the passport came under media scrutiny according to the Associated Press Epstein defense lawyers specifically argued that a friend gave it to him Epstein in the nineteen eighties after some Jewish Americans were informally advised to carry identification bearing a non-jewish name when traveling. Internationally, during a period when hijackings were more common, this claim appears to be related to concerns the followed the hijacking of Air France flight one, hundred, thirty, nine in nineteen, seventy, six when Israeli and Jewish hostages were separated from other hostages based largely on the passports in their possession given that Epstein was unable to meet the conventional qualifications for an Austrian passport including long-term residency in Austria. The passport lists him as a resident of Saudi Arabia and fluency in. German it. Appears that the only way to have acquired an Austrian passport was by unconventional means meaning assistance from a well-connected Austrian official or foreign diplomat with cloud in Austria Lauder. Then Ambassador to Austria for the Reagan administration would have been well positioned to acquire such a passport particularly for the reason cited by epsteins attorneys that Jewish Americans could be targeted during travel and in light of waters, very public concerns over threats Jews face from certain terror groups furthermore, the passport had. been issued in nineteen eighty seven when lauder was still serving as an ambassador an addition lauder was well-connected. Stein's former patron former head of bear stearns Allen Greenberg who had hired Epstein in the late nineteen seventies immediately after the latter was fired from the Dalton School and Donald trump another friend of water and Greenburg who began his friendship with Epstein in Nineteen eighty-seven the same year, the fake Austrian passport was issued in Nineteen Eighty, seven Epstein also began his relationship. With his principal financier Leslie Wexner who is also closely associated with water though some sources claim that Epstein and Wexner I met in nineteen eighty-five. But that they're strong business relationship was not established until nineteen eighty-seven though EPSTEINS defense attorney declined to reveal the identity of the friend who provided him with the fake Australian Passport Lauder was both well positioned to acquire it in Austria and also deeply connected to the mega group which was co founded by epsteins Patron Leslie Wexner and to which Epstein has many connections these connections to both the Austrian government and to Epstein's mentor make water. The most likely person to have acquired the document on epsteins behalf furthermore Epstein in the mega groups ties to the Israeli intelligence agency. Mossad also suggest water was involved in procuring the passport in light of his close ties to the Israeli government, and the fact that Mossad has a history of using ambassadors abroad to procure false foreign passports for its operatives. Lauder himself has been alleged to have ties to Mossad as he is a longtime funder of IDC hers. Leah. And Israeli university closely associated with Mossad and their recruiters as well as Israeli military intelligence lottery even founded ide- hers Leah's Lauder School of government diplomacy, and strategy. Furthermore Lauder Co founded the Eastern European Broadcasting Network See TV with Mark Palmer a former US diplomat Kissinger aide Reagan's speechwriter Palmer is better known for Co founding the National Endowment for Democracy Ned. An organization often described as an accessory to US intelligence and one whose first president confessed to the Washington. Post that a lot of we do today was done covertly twenty five years ago by the CIA a two thousand, one report in the Evening Standard noted that Epstein once claimed that during the nineteen eighties he worked for the CIA. But Epstein later backed away from the dispersion, the origins of the group Mafia, the mega a secretive group of billionaires to which. Lauder. Belongs was formed in Nineteen ninety-one by Charles Bronfman and Leslie Wexner, the latter of whom has received considerable media scrutiny following the July arrest of his former protege Jeffrey Epstein media profiles of the Group painted as a loosely organized club of twenty of the nation's wealthiest and most influential Jewish businessmen focused on philanthropy and Jewishness with membership dues. Upwards of thirty thousand dollars per year yet several of its most prominent members have ties to organized crime mega, group members. Founded and or are closely associated with some of the most well known pro Israel organizations for instance members. Charles Bronfman, and Michael steinhardt formed birthright tablet with the backing of then and current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Steinhardt. An atheist has stated that his motivation in helping to found the group was to advance his own belief that devotion to and faith in the state of Israel should serve as a substitute for Jewish theology other well, known groups associated with the Mega Group. Include the World Jewish Congress whose past President Edgar Bronfman and current President Ronald Lauder are both mega group members and ny breath particularly at spinoff known as the anti-defamation League Hey dl the Bronfman brothers were major donors to the deal with Edgar Bronfman serving as the Elles honorary national vice chair for several years when Edgar Bronfman died in twenty thirteen longtime ad L. Director Abe Foxman said Edgar was for many years chair of our liquor industry division chair of our. New York. Appeal and one of our most significant benefactors, other mega group members that are donors and major supporters of the ad l. include Ronald Lauder Michael Steinhardt in the late Max Fisher as previously mentioned Roy cones father was a longtime leader of Ny Brits influential New England New York chapter and cone was later a celebrated member of its banking and finance. Lodge. In addition mega group members have also been key players in the pro Israel lobby in the united. States, for instance, Max Fisher of the mega group founded National Jewish coalition. Now, known as the Republican Jewish coalition, the main pro Israel neoconservative political lobbying group known for its support of hawkish policies and whose current chief patrons, Sheldon, Adelson, and Bernard Marcus are among Donald, trump's top donors though the mega group has officially existed only since nineteen ninety-one the use of philanthropy to provide cover for more unscrupulous lobbying business activities was pioneered decades earlier by Sam Bronfman the father. Of. Mega Group members, Edgar and Charles Bronfman while other North American elites like J. D. Rockefeller had previously used philanthropic giving as a means of laundering their reputations. Bronfman's approach to philanthropy was unique because it was focused on giving specifically to other members of his own ethno religious background. Sam Bronfman as was detailed in part. One of the series had long standing deep ties to organized crime specifically, Meyer Lexi's organized crime syndicate yet Bronfman's private ambition according to those close. To him was to become a respected member of high society as a consequence Bronfman worked hard to remove the stain. That is mob associations had left on his public reputation in Canada and abroad he accomplished this by becoming a leader in Canada's Zionist movement and by the end of the nineteen thirties, he was head of the Canadian Jewish Congress and had begun to make a name for himself as a philanthropist for Jewish goddesses yet even some of Bronfman's activism and. Philanthropy had hints of the mobster like reputation he tried so hard to shake for instance Brahman was actively involved in the illegal shipping of arms design EST paramilitaries in Palestine, prior to nineteen forty eight, specifically as a CO founder of the National Conference for Israeli, Jewish rehabilitation that smuggled weapons to the paramilitary group Agana. Hello everyone we want to thank you for listening to our podcast and remind you that while it is free, there are ads so that we can. Keep it free bringing you the whole truth costs money in the form of the time are people used to bring you all this honest information all you have to do is subscribe listen. Then the advertisers will help support us. Our current sponsor is anchored DOT FM. If you haven't heard about anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or. Computer. Anchor will distribute your podcast for you. So it can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. The it's everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor apple go to anchor DOT FM to get started today. If you support our work, please feel free to donate. Now back to the cast at the same time Bronfman was abetting the illegal smuggling of weapons to. The agana his associates in the criminal underworld were doing the same after World War Two close aides of David Ben Gurion who would later become the first prime minister of Israel and was instrumental in the founding of Mossad forged tight knit relationships with Meyer Lansky. Benjamin. Bugsy Siegel. Mikiko. In another Jewish. Gangsters of the period, they used their clandestine networks to establish a vast arms smuggling network between the United States and Zionist settlements in Palestine arming both Agana than the. Ergen. Paramilitary groups has noted in part one of this report at the same time these gangsters were aiding the illegal arming. Of Zionist, paramilitaries. They were strengthening their ties to US intelligence that had I been formally though covertly established in World War. Two after Israel was founded, Sam Bronfman worked with future Israeli prime minister. Shimon Peres to create the sale of Canadian armaments at half price to Israel and the bargain weapons purchase was paid for entirely by a fundraising dinner. Hosted by Bronfman and his wife many years later, Peres would go on to introduce another future prime minister of Israel and Barack to Jeffrey Epstein. The rest of the Bronfman Families March on the road to respectability was undertaken by Brahmins children who married into aristocratic families such as the European rothschilds in the wall? Street. Royalty of the Lemans in the lobes, the Bronfman's newfound respectability did not mean that their association with the Lansky Lead Criminal Empire dissolved indeed prominent members. Of the Seagram's dynasty came under fire in the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies for their close association with Willie Ob Auburn. A major figure in Canadian organized crime who Canadian Professor Stephen Schneider has referred to as the Meyer Lansky of Canada however, Edgar and Charles Bronfman were hardly the only members of the mega group with deep and longstanding ties to the Lansky led National Crime Syndicate indeed one of the groups prominent members Hedge Fund manager Michael Steinhardt opened up about his Own family ties to Lansky in his autobiography no bull my life in and out the markets where he noted that his father soul read McGee steinhardt was land skis jewel offensive choice and a major player in New York's criminal underworld soul Steinhardt was also his son's first client on Wall Street and helped him jump start his career in finance the ties between the Mega Group and the national crime. Syndicate don't stop there another prominent member of the mega group with. Ties to the same criminal network is Max Fisher who has been described as wexner mentor and is also alleged to have worked with Detroit Purple Gang during prohibition and beyond the purple. Gang. Were part of the network that smuggled Bronfman liquor from Canada into the United States during prohibition and one of its founders. A Bernstein was a close associate of both Meyer Lansky and modell. It's Fisher was a key advisor to several US presidents beginning with White D. Eisenhower as. Well as to Henry, Kissinger in addition to Fisher Mega Group member. Ronald, Lauder was connected to Roy Cohn and Tom Bullen both of whom were closely associated with the same Lansky lead crime network see part one and part two, and who regularly represented top Mafia figures in court. Furthermore, another member of the Mega Group director Steven Spielberg is a well known protege of Lew Wasserman, the mob connected media mogul and longtime backer of Ronald Reagan's film and later political career. Discussed in part two of the series one surprise connection to cone involves Mega Group member and former president of US weapons firm General. Dynamics Lester crown whose brother-in-law is David Shine cones confidante and alleged lover during the McCarthy hearings whose relationship with cone helped bring about the downfall of McCarthyism another member of the Mega Group worth noting his Laurence Tisch who owns CBS News for several years and founded Loews Corporation tissues notable for his work for the Office of Strategic Services. The precursor to the CIA where Donald Barr who hired Epstein the Dalton School also served which forged ties with Lansky criminal empire during World War Two wexner mansions in the Shapiro Murder Leslie Les Wexner the other Mega Group Co founder also has ties to organized crime wexner ties to Jeffrey Epstein have come under scrutiny following the latter's recent arrest as wexner was the only publicly acknowledged client of Epstein Suspicious Hedge Fund, the source of much of this wealth and the previous owner of Epstein's fifty, six, million dollar. Manhattan townhouse, which Wexner transferred to an Epstein controlled entity for free. Before Epstein received, the townhouse wexner appears to the views the residence for some unconventional purposes noted in a nineteen. Ninety. Six New York Times article on the then wexner owned residence, which included a bathroom reminiscent of James Bond Movies hidden beneath a stairway lined with lead to provide shelter from attack and supplied with closed circuit television screens and a telephone both concealed in a cabinet beneath the sink. The Times article does not speculate as to the purpose. Of this equipment, though the illusion to famous fictional super spy James Bond suggests that it may have been used to snoop on guests or conduct electron surveillance. The nineteen ninety six times article also noted that after wexner bought the residence for thirteen point, two, million dollars in nineteen, eighty nine, he spent millions more decorating and furnishing the home including the addition of the electronic equipment and the James Bond bathroom only to apparently never live in it. The Times, which interviewed Epstein for the peace quoted him as saying that. Less never spent more than two months there. Epstein told The Times which identified Epstein has wexner protege and one of his financial advisers. The house by that time already belonged to him that same year Epstein was commissioning artwork for Wexner is Ohio Mansion Air recent article from the Times noted that in the summer of Nineteen, ninety-six Maria farmer was working on an art project for Mr Epstein Mr Wexner is Ohio Mansion while she was there, Mr Epstein sexually assaulted her according to an affidavit miss farmer filed earlier this. Year in Federal Court in Manhattan. She said that she fled the room and called the police but that Mr Wexner security staff refused to let her leave for twelve hours. Farmers. Accounts strongly suggests that given the behavior of his personal security staff at his mansion following Epstein's alleged assault on farmer Wexner was well aware of Epstein Predatory Behavior towards young women. This is compounded by claims made by Alan, Dershowitz, a former lawyer for and friend of Epstein's who has also been accused of raping underage girls that Wexner. has also been accused of raping underage girls exploited by Epstein on at least seven occasions, the presence of the electronic equipment and his homes bathroom other oddities related to the townhouse and aspects of the links between Epstein and Wexner. Suggest there is more to Wexner who has rather successfully developed public image of a respectable businessman and philanthropist much like other prominent members of the group. However, bits and pieces of wexner is private secrets have occasionally bubbled up only to be subjected to rapid cover-ups amidst concerns of libelling the. Powerful? In. well-connected. Billionaire philanthropist in nineteen eighty, five, Columbus Ohio lawyer Arthur, Shapiro was murdered in broad daylight at point blank range in what was largely referred to as a style murder. The homicide still remains unsolved likely due to the fact then Columbus police chief James Jackson ordered the destruction of key documents of his department's investigation into the murder. Jackson's ordering of the documents destruction came to light years later in Nineteen ninety-six when he was under investigation for corruption according to the Columbus dispatch, Jackson justified the destruction of. One viable and valuable report because he felt that it was so filled with wild speculation about prominent business leaders that it was potentially libelous. The nature of this wild speculation was that millionaire businessmen in Columbus and youngstown were linked to the mob style murder though Jackson's efforts were meant to keep this list report far from public view, it was eventually obtained by Bob Photographers Attorney journalist and Executive Director of the Columbus Institute for Contemporary Journalism after he was accidentally sent a copy of the report in Nineteen Ninety Eight. Of a public records request the report titled Shapiro Homicide Investigation Analysis Hypothesis name's Leslie Wexner is linked with associates reputed to be organized crime figures and also lists the names of businessman Jack Kessler former Columbus city council president, and Wexner Associate Jerry Hammond and former Columbus city council member less right as also being involved in Shapiro's murder. The report also noted that Arthur Shapiro's law firm Schwartz Shapiro. Kelman Warren represented wexner company the limited. And states that prior to his death Arthur Shapiro manage this account the limited for the law firm. It also noted that at the time of his death, Shapiro was the subject of an investigation by the Internal Revenue Service because he had failed to file income tax returns for some seven years prior to his death and he had invested in some questionable tax shelters. It also stated that his death prevented Shapiro from his plan testimony. At a grand jury hearing about these questionable tax shelters as to Wexner is alleged links to organized crime. The report focuses on the close business relationship between Wexner is the limited and Francis Walsh whose trucking company had done in excess of ninety percent of the limited trucking business around the time of Shapiro's murder according to the report Walsh was named in a nineteen eighty night -ment as a co-conspirator of genevieve's crime family boss Anthony. Fat Tony Salerno whose longtime lawyer was Roy Cohn and the Shapiro Murder Reports stated that Walsh was still considered associates of the genevieve's Laura. Crime, family and Walsh was still providing truck transportation for the limited. Notably, the genovese crime family has long formed a key part of the National Crime Syndicate as its former head Charles. Lucky. Luciano. Co created the criminal organization with his close friend Meyer Lansky upon Luciano's imprisonment and subsequent deportation from the. United States Lansky took over the syndicates US operations and his association with Luchino successors continued until Lenzi's death in nineteen, eighty, three, the mega mystery and the Mossad in May nineteen ninety seven, The Washington Post broken explosive story long since forgotten based on intercepted phone call made between a Mossad official in the US and his superior in Tel Aviv the discussed the Mossad's efforts to obtain a secret US government document according to the Post. The Mossad officials stated during the phone call that Israeli Ambassador Eliahu ben-eliezer had asked him whether he could obtain a copy of the letter given to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat by then Secretary of State Warren Christopher on January sixteenth the day after the Hebron accord was signed by Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Post article continued according to a source who viewed a copy of the NSA transcript of the conversation the intelligence. Officer speaking in Hebrew said, the ambassador wants me to go to mega get a copy of this letter. The source said the supervisor and Tel Aviv rejected the request saying this is not something we use mega for the League communication led to an investigation that sought to identify an individual code-named mega that the Post said maybe someone in the US government who has provided information to the Israelis in the past a concern that subsequently. SPAWNED, a fruitless FBI investigation. The most sobbed later claimed that Mega was merely a code word for the US's CIA. But the FBI and Ns were unconvinced by that claim and believed that it was a senior US government official that had potentially once been involved in working with Jonathan Pollard. The former US naval intelligence analyst leader convicted of spying for the Mossad almost one year to the day after the mega spy scandal broke the wall. Street Journal was the first outlet to report on the existence of a little known organization of billionaires that was informally called the Mega Group and had been founded years prior in Nineteen Ninety one, the report made no mention of the spy scandal that had spread concerns of Israeli. Espionage in the US only a year prior however, the group's distinctive informal name and the connections of its members to the Mossad and two high-ranking Israeli politicians. Including prime ministers raised the possibility that Mega was not an individual has the FBI NSA had believed but a group in nineteen ninety seven when the mega spy scandal broke Netanyahu had recently become prime minister of Israel after an upset victory of victory that was largely credited to one well-connected Netanyahu backer in particular Ronald Lauder, beyond being a major donor lauder had brought Arthur Finkelstein onto work for Netanyahu's nineteen ninety-six campaign who strategies were. Credited for Netanyahu's surprise when Netanyahu was close enough to lauder that he personally enlisted lauder and George Nader to serve as his peace envoys to Syria Nater who was connected to the trump twenty sixteen campaign and trump ally and blackwater founder. Erik Prince was recently hit with federal child sex trafficking charges last month soon after Jeffrey, Epstein had been arrested on similar charges at the time Nader was picked to work with lotter on Netanyahu's. Behalf he had already been caught possessing large amounts of child pornography on two separate occasions I in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, and later in nineteen ninety, this strong connection between Netanyahu and lauder during the time of the nineteen ninety-seven Mega spy-scandal is important considering Mossad answers directly to Israel's prime minister another possible connection between the Mega Group and the most sought owed to the mega-groups ties to Meyer Lansky criminal network as was detailed in. Part one Lansky had established deep ties to US intelligence after World War Two, and was also connected to the Mossad through Mossad official Tiber resent bom who's bank was frequently used by Lansky to launder money in addition lansky collaborated on at least one occasion with notorious Mossad super spy roffe Aydin who helped acquire sensitive electronic equipment possessed only by the CIA but coveted by Israeli intelligence iten is best known in the US for being. The Mossad handler of Jonathan Pollard. Notably, I was the main source of claims that the code word mega used by the Mossad officials in Nineteen, Ninety, seven referred to the CIA. And not to a potential source in the US government wants linked to Pollard spying activities, making his claims as to the true meaning of the term somewhat dubious given that the organized crime network tied to the mega group had ties to both U. S. And Israeli intelligence, the Mega Code word could plausibly have referred to the secret of group of billionaires more supporting evidence for this theory comes from the fact that prominent members of the mega group were business partners of Mossad agents, including media, mogul Robert Maxwell, and commodities trader Marc rich the mysterious Maxwell's the Maxwell family has become a source of renewed media interest following Jeffrey teens arrest as Gallon Maxwell long described in the media is. A British socialite was publicly cited as epsteins longtime on and off girlfriend and epsteins victims, as well as former wives of EPSTEINS. Friends have claimed that she was epsteins Pimp and procured underage girls for his sexual blackmail operation. The Lane Maxwell is also alleged having gauged in the rape of the girl she procured for Epstein and to have used them to produce child pornography. Gallon was the favourite and youngest daughter of media mogul Robert Maxwell. Swell born Jan Ludwig Cock had joined the British Army in World War Two afterwards, according to authors, John Loftus and mark errands he greatly influenced Czechoslovakian government's decision to arm Zionist para-militaries during the nineteen forty eight war that resulted in Israel's creation is state and Maxwell himself was also involved in the smuggling of aircraft parts to Israel around this time Maxwell was approached by British intelligence outfit mix and offered a position that Maxwell ultimately declined M. I six then classified him Zionist loyal only to Israel and made him a person of interest. He later became an agent of the Mossad according to. Several books including Robert Maxwell. Israel's super. Spy Gordon Thomas, and Martin Dillon furthermore, Seymour Hersh's the Samson option. Israel's nuclear arsenal and American foreign policy alleges ties between Maxwell and Israeli intelligence according to Victor Astrology a former Mossad case officer Mossad was financing many of its operations in Europe for money stolen from Maxwell's newspaper pension. Fund they got their hands on the funds almost as soon as maxwell made the purchase of the Mirror newspaper group with money lent to him. By Mossad, in exchange for his services, the Mossad helped Maxwell satisfy his sexual appetite during his visits to Israel providing him with. The service maintained for blackmail purposes. It was later revealed the hotel in which he stayed in Israel was bugged with cameras allowing the Mossad to acquire a small library of video footage of Maxwell in sexually compromising positions as with the CIA the Mossad's use of blackmail against both friend and foe is well documented and known to be extensive. Maxwell. was also a close associate and friend of Israeli super off who as previously mentioned was Jonathan Police Handler, and who had previously worked directly with Meyer. Lansky iten had a revolutionary new software being used by the US government known as promised from Earl. Brian. Longtime associate aid to Ronald Reagan promises often considered. The forerunner to the prism software used by spy agencies today and was developed by William. Hamilton who leased the software to the US government through his company in law in Nineteen eighty-two according to author and former BBC investigative journalist Gordon. Thomas. Brian was angry that the US Department of Justice was successfully using promise to go after organized crime and money laundering activities and I felt that the program could aid Israel. At the time I was the director of the now defunct Israeli, Military Intelligence Agency Lacombe which gathered scientific and technical intelligence abroad from both public and covert sources. Especially in relation to Israel's nuclear weapons program, a plan was hatched to install a trap. Door into the software and then market promised throughout the world providing the Mossad with invaluable intelligence on the operations of its enemies and allies while also providing iten and Brian with copious amounts of cash according to the testimony of ex-mossad official. Ari Ben Menashe Brian provided a copy of promise to Israel's military intelligence with contacted and israeli-american programmer living in California who then planted the trap door in the software the CIA was later said to have installed its own trap door in the software, but it is unknown if they did. So with the version of the already bugged software and how widely it was adopted relative to the version bugged by Israeli intelligence. After the trap door was inserted, the problem became selling the bug version of the software to governments, as well as private companies around the world particularly in areas of interest Brian, I attempted to buy out in slow on promise and then use that same company to sell the bug version unsuccessful Brian turned to his close friend then attorney. General Ed meese whose Justice Department then abruptly refused to make the payments to enslow that were stipulated by the contract essentially using the software for free, which in slaw claim to be theft, some have speculated that niece's role in that decision was shaped not only by his friendship with Brian, but the fact that his wife. Was a major investor in Brian's business ventures. MEESE would later become an advisor to Donald Trump. When he was president elect in slow was forced to declare bankruptcy as a result of his actions and sued the Justice Department. The court later found the denise lead. Department took converted stole the software through trickery fraud and deceit within slow out of the way Brian sold the software all over the world is later recruited Robert Maxwell to become another promise salesman which he did remarkably well, even succeeding in selling the software to Soviet intelligence and conspiring with Republicans Texas Senator John Tower to have the software adopted by the US government laboratory at Los Alamos dozens. Of countries use the software on their most carefully guarded computer systems unaware that Mossad now had access to everything promise touched whereas the Mossad's past reliance on gathering intelligence had relied on the same tactics used by its equivalents in the US and elsewhere the widespread adoption of the promise software largely through the actions of Earl, Brian Robert Maxwell gave the Mossad a way to gather not just troves of counter intelligence data, but also blackmail another intelligence agencies and powerful figures indeed promises back door and adoption by intelligence agencies all over the world essentially provided the Mossad with access to troves of blackmail that the CIA and FBI had acquired on their friends and foes. For over half a century strangely in recent years, the FBI has sought to hide information related to Robert Maxwell's connection to the promised scandal according to journalist Robert Fisk. Maxwell was also involved in the Mossad abduction of his nuclear weapons whistleblower Vanu Mordechai Mordechai had attempted to provide the media with information on the extent of Israel's nuclear weapons program, which was eventually published by The Sunday Times of London yet Mordechai had also contacted the Daily Mirror with the information the mirror being an outlet that was owned by Maxwell and who's foreign editor was close maxwell associated and alleged Mossad Asset Nicholas Davies journalist. Seymour Hersh allege the Davies had also been involved in Israeli. Arms deals per fisk. It was maxwell who contacted the Israeli embassy in London and told them of mortifies activities. This led to Mordecai entrapment by a female Mossad agent who seduced him as part of a honey trap operation that led to his kidnapping, and later imprisonment in Israel Mordechai served an eighteen year sentence, twelve years of which were in solitary confinement. Then there is the issue of Maxwell's death widely cited by mainstream and independent media like suspicious and a potential homicide according to authors. Gordon Thomas Martin Dillon Maxwell had sealed his own fate when he attempted to threaten top Mossad officials with the exposure of certain operations if they did not help him rescue. Empire from crippling debt and financial difficulties many of Maxwell's creditors who had grown increasingly displeased with the media mogul were Israeli and several of them were alleged to be Mossad connected themselves, Thomas and Dylan argue in their biography of Maxwell's life that the Mossad felt that Maxwell had become more of a liability than an asset and killed him on his yacht three months after he demanded the bailout on the other extreme are theories that suggest maxwell committed suicide because of the financial difficulties, his empire faced some have taken Maxwell's funeral held in Israel as the country's official confirmation. Of Maxwell's service to the Mossad as it was like into a state funeral and attended by no less than six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence during his funeral service. In Jerusalem Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogized him and stated he has done more for Israel than today. He said other eulogies were given by future prime ministers at who'd Olmert. Then Health Minister and Shimon Peres with the latter also praising Maxwell services on behalf of Israel swimming in the same swamp as he built his business empire and even became a member of parliament maxwell was also doing. Work for Israeli intelligence has several of the Israeli companies in which he invested became fronts for the Mossad in addition as he became a media mogul, he developed a bitter rivalry with Rupert Murdoch a close friend of Roy Cohn and an influential figure in American and British Media Maxwell also partnered with the Bronfman Brothers Edgar and Charles key figures in the mega group in one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine, Maxwell, and Charles Bronfman partnered up to bid on the Jerusalem Post newspaper and the Post described the two men as two of the world's leading Jewish financiers and their interest. In the venture has developing the Jerusalem Post and expanding its influence among world jury a year. Prior Maxwell and Bronfman had become top shareholders in the Israeli pharmaceutical company Tivo. Maxwell also worked with Charles Bronfman's brother Edgar in the late nineteen eighties to convince the Soviet Union to allow Soviet Jews to immigrate to Israel Edgar's efforts in this regard of received more attention has it was a defining moment of his decades long presidency of the World Jewish Congress of which Ronald Lauder is currently president yet maxwell had also made considerable use of his contacts in the Soviet government. In this effort, Maxwell also moved in the circles of the network previously described in parts one and two in the series. A key example of this is the May nineteen eighty-nine Party Maxwell hosted on his yacht, the Lady d'alene named for his youngest daughter and epsteins future girlfriend attendees of the Party included Roy cones, protege Donald Trump, and his longtime law partner Tom Bolan. A close friend of Nancy Reagan was also present journalist. Mike Wallace as was literary agent more jank lawyer who represented Ronald Reagan to of cones closest friends, journalists, William Safire and Barbara Walters the CEO. Of what would soon become time Warner Steve Ross was also invited to the exclusive event. Ross's presence is notable as he had built his business empire largely through his association with new. York Crime Lords. Manny Kimmel and Abner Lamis. Willman Willman was a close friend of Meyer Lansky Michael Steinhardt father and Sam Bronfman father of Edgar and Charles. Bronfman. Another attendee of the Maxwell Yacht Party was former secretary of the navy and former Henry Kissinger staffer John. Layman who would go on to associate with the controversial neoconservative think tank project for new American, century, prior to being secretary. Of the Navy Liman had been president of the Unbeaten Corporation which hired arch neo-con Richard Perle to manage the portfolio of Israeli arms, dealers, slow Motza blue, and his son hyme who paid a blinked and ten thousand dollars a month. A scandal arose when those payments continued after both Leeman and Pearl joined the Reagan Department of Defense, and while Pearl was working to persuade the Pentagon to buy arms from companies linked to the BLUTO itch. Pearl had been part of the Reagan Transition Team along with Roy cones, longtime friend and law partner Tom, boom, and other maxwell yacht. Guest in addition to Leeman another former Kissinger staffer Thomas Pickering was present at Maxwell's yacht party pickering played a minor role in the Iran Contra affair, and at the time of the Maxwell Yacht party he was US ambassador to Israel Senator John Tower, our Texas who allegedly conspired with Maxwell in the Mossad bug promise software at the Los Alamos. Laboratories was also present tower died just months before Maxwell in a suspicious plane crash Glenn. Maxwell was also at this rather notable event after her father's mysterious death and alleged murder on the same yacht that bears her name in. Nineteen ninety-one she quickly packed her bags and moved to New York City there. She soon made the acquaintance of Jeffrey Epstein and a few years later developed close ties to the Clinton family which will be discussed in the next installment of the series Jeffrey Epstein and the new promise after it was revealed, that Epstein had evaded stricter sentencing in two thousand eight due to his links to intelligence. It was the Mossad ties of d'alene Maxwell's father. The led many to speculate that Epstein sexual blackmail operation was sharing incriminating information with the Mossad former CBS executive producer, and current. Journalist for the media outlet negative Zev Shalev has since claimed that he independently confirmed that Epstein was tied directly to the Mossad. Epstein was a longtime friend of former Israeli prime minister who barack who has long standing and deep ties to Israel's intelligence community. Their decades long friendship has been the source of recent political attacks targeting b-barrack who is running in the Israeli elections against current Prime Minister Netanyahu later, this year barrack is also close to Epstein's chief patron and mega group member Leslie Wexner. WHO's wexner foundation gave Iraq two million dollars in two thousand, four for A. Still. Unspecified research program according to Barack he was first introduced to Epstein by former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres who eulogized Robert Maxwell. At his funeral and had decades long ties with the Bronfman family going back to the early nineteen fifties Perez was also a frequent participant in programs funded by Leslie Wexner in Israel and worked closely with the Mossad for decades in two twenty fifteen a few years after Epstein's released from prison following his conviction for soliciting sex from a minor in two thousand eight Barack formed a company with Epstein with the chief purpose of investing in. An Israeli. Start up then known as reported that company now called Carbine sells it signature software to nine one one call centers and emergency service providers and is also available to consumers is an APP that provides emergency services with access to a callers camera location and also runs any callers identity through any linked government. Database has specifically been marketed by the company itself and the Israeli press as a solution to mass shootings in the United States and is already being used by at least two US counties. Israeli media reported that Epstein and Barack were among the company's largest. Investors Bear Act poured millions into the company and it was recently revealed by Haaretz that a significant amount of barracks total investments in Carbine was funded by Epstein making him a defacto partner in the company. Baruch is now carbines chairman. The company's executive team are all former members of different branches of Israeli intelligence including the elite military intelligence unit unit eighty, two, hundred. That is often likened to Israel's equivalent of the US national security agency NSA carbines, currency Oh Amir Chai served in unit eighty, two, hundred tapped former unit two, hundred commander Pinchas Bucks to serve as the. Company's director and on its board, an addition to Lsi, another Carbine co-founder. lytle Leshem also served unit eighty, two hundred, and later worked for Israeli private spy company black you Leshem now works for a subsidiary of Erik, Prince's company Frontier Services Group according to the independent media outlet narrative. The company also includes several tie INS to the trump administration including philander founder and trump ally Peter the'll an investor in Carbine in addition carbines. Board of advisors include former POLENTA employee trae Stevens, who was a member of the trump transition team as well as former Secretary of homeland security. Michael Chertoff trump donor in New York real estate developer Elliott. Toil is also on carbines board alongside who'd Barack and Pinchas buckets narrative, which wrote the first expose on Carbine after Epstein's arrest noted that the Chinese government uses a smartphone APP very similar to Carbine as part of its mass surveillance apparatus even though the original purpose of the APP was for improved emergency reporting, according to narrative the Chinese carbine equivalent monitors every aspect of a user's life including personal conversations, power usage, and tracks a user's movement given the history of Robert Maxwell, the father of Epstein's longtime girlfriend. and young girl procuring madame. Glenn Maxwell in promoting the sale of carbines modified promise software, which was also marketed as a tool to improve government efficacy but was actually a tool of mass surveillance for the benefit of Israeli intelligence. The overlap between Carbine and promises troubling and warrants. Further investigation. It is also worth noting that unit eighty, two, hundred connected tech startups are being widely integrated into US companies and have developed close ties to the US military industrial complex with Carbine being just one example of that brand as meant press previously reported unit eighty, two hundred linked outfits like. Of recently hired former National Security Agency, NSA director Mike, Rogers as a senior adviser and gained prominence silicon valley figures including former Google CEO Eric Schmidt as key investors many American technology companies from Intel to Google to Microsoft have merged with several unit eighty, two hundred connected ups in recent years and have been moving many key jobs and operations to Israel with backing from key Republican donors like Paul Singer, many of those same companies particularly, Google and Microsoft are also major US government contractors who was Epstein really working for even though Jeffrey. Epstein appears to have had ties to the most Saad. This series has revealed that the networks to which Epstein was connected were not Mossad exclusive as many. Of the. Individuals close to Epstein Leslie. Wexner for instance were part of a mob connected class of all larks with deep ties to both the US and Israel as was discussed in part one of the series, the sharing of intelligence like blackmail between intelligence agencies and the same organized crime network connected to the mega group goes back decades with Leslie. Wexner of the mega group is epsteins chief patron as opposed to a financier with direct ties to the Mossad. A similar relationship is more than likely in the case of the sexual blackmail operation that Epstein Ram given that intelligence agencies in both the US and elsewhere often conduct covert operations for the benefit of all the guards and large corporations as. OPPOSED TO NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS EPSTEINS ties to the group suggests that this group holds a unique status and influence in both the governments of the US individual as well as in other countries eeg Russia that were not explored in this report. This is by virtue of their role is key political donors in both countries as well as the fact that several of the most powerful companies or financial institutions in both countries indeed many members of the mega group have deep ties to Israel's political class including Netanyahu, and Barack, as well as to now deceased figures like Shimon Peres and two members of the American political class. Ultimately, the picture painted by the evidence is not a direct tied to A. Single Intelligence Agency but a Web Lincoln, key members of the megagroup politicians and officials in both the US and Israel and an organized crime network with deep business intelligence ties in both nations though this series has so far focused on the ties of this network to Maine Republican Party affiliates the next and final installment will reveal the ties developed between this web, and the Clintons as will be revealed despite the Clintons willingness to embrace corrupt dealings during the span of their political careers. They're mostly friendly relationship with this network. Still saw them use the power of sexual blackmail to obtain certain policy decisions that were favorable to their personal and financial interests, but not to the Clinton's political reputation or agendas. Are Thoughts. I know this rabbit hole has already been deep, but there is more detail. So stay tuned. Vera Toda

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The Epstein Saga

In the News with Mike Dakkak

23:00 min | 1 year ago

The Epstein Saga

"Common Sense commentary on Politics Culture, and current events. If it's on your mind, it's in the news now in the news with your host Mike Dakkak. The. Question is why? Epstein Jeffrey Epstein trafficked a bunch of little girls some as young as twelve years old by accounts of some of his other victims. Some of these children were for himself, but the main crux of the operation seems to have been a honeypot scheme. In which wealthy and powerful men from all over the world were lured with promises of. Sexual relations apparently with little, children? And there were a bunch of documents that were recently unsealed. They have to do with Jillian Maxwell, I don't know how you pronounce her name. I've heard a pronounced, the thousand different ways, the Sunday. I'm going to go with Jillian because it sounds the the rightist to me but. Maxwell was the quote unquote. Madam of this operation is being alleged. And she would recru- young girls. and. She would say to them, Hey, you know you could be a masseuse. You can make a lot of money. You could travel all over the world and you can meet rich and powerful people. You can be a model mean, she basically told them whatever she had to. It seems to get them the go along and cooperate with what these people had in store for them. New byles, she would call them according to other victims. We have to go out and find more new byles she would say. She would have relations with these girls herself. according to victims or just pass them onto Jeffrey or both. What are the one of the? Things to come out. About this. Whole Jeffrey. Epstein. Thing. One, among many amazing things and I don't mean amazing. Isn't good I mean amazing as in spectacularly awful and bed. but but one of the amazing things that Epstein apparently tells Maxwell back in twenty fifteen in an email. Hey, you know you didn't do anything. Wrong. He tells her. We didn't do anything real. Go on about your life. As if everything is normal, he writes to her go out, go to parties should enjoy yourself enjoy your life. They didn't do anything wrong. My Gosh. If if all of this is their definition of normal, if all of this is their definition of of okay, I would hate to see what their definition of wrong is what they consider. Wrong. If all of this is right. Maxwell. Of course is in is in custody now Epstein is dead. They say he committed suicide? That's the official line. What exactly you believe he died of, that's for you to the side. But it turns out the whole point. Of. This, scheme. Was a worldwide sex trafficking ring of little girls to wealthy and powerful individuals. Mostly men because men were stupid enough to fall for this stuff and do this kind of stuff as far as we know. With the purpose of getting dirt on them. That's the story here. The story. Here's this worldwide set. You know a lot of people, WANNA. Concentrate on well bill. Clinton was on Epstein plane and he had the secret service. You know stay back whenever he traveled on this plane or there was this mysterious. Disgusting Island in the Caribbean were all of these things took place or or took place on Epsteins, plane itself the Lolita. You know all those things are important. they deserve to be researched. They deserve to be known. They deserve to be parts of the story, but make no mistake about it. The real story here is why? Why was this operation started? Why was it set up by whom and for what purpose? Host, this is a worldwide. You know his jet Jeffrey Epstein's victims talk about. Making, as much as two hundred dollars an hour, and this is back twenty, five, thirty years ago when that was actually a decent amount of money, you know. Now the Fed just keeps printing money. So all the money in your pocket just keeps getting more and more diluted pretty soon, it's not going to be worth the paper. It's printed on twenty, five thirty years ago. That was real money. They talk about how he took him shopping and knotted sears or you know the gap or JC Penney, Chanel and Gucci, and those kind of places, luxury brands we're talking conservatively. You need a budget. This thing has to be funded with millions of dollars a year. It needs sites for these things. Take Place. It needs coordination and needs infrastructure in needs, poorly, protection and installation. How many people do you have to pay off to keep quiet about the stuff? Mean these two freaks, Maxwell and Epstein, they weren't just out here. Freelancing, blackmailing of wealthy and powerful will blackmailing them to do what? That's the story here. That's what we have to focus on. and. Don't tell me. It's about money. I mean Epstein had a plane. In a mansion in Manhattan on the Upper East side, one of the most expensive piece of real estate in Manhattan, which is saying something. A mansion in Palm Beach Ditto for that. House. A ranch in New Mexico where they were going to build all kinds of crazy things. He had his own private island in the Caribbean. I mean, does it stands to reason this was all about money. I mean. It doesn't sound to me on the face of it like was going to bed hungry at night. Bill. Clinton. was implicated in this thing has as mentioned former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. You think you think bill. Richardson. Has Money. He's a civil servant, they don't have money. But. Do they have the political power and influence? That's what it's about. I used to wonder. Just, what it was that made our elected officials. Get into office, and then seemingly forget everything that got them there and act in ways that were seemingly the exact opposite of the best interests of their country. And Act in the exact opposite of the best interests of their countrymen. Okay. Well, maybe that's a little bit naive. The countrymen statement, but they were acting in the exact opposite of of of the interest of the voters that put them there, and so therefore, by extension the exact opposite of their own best interests well, now we know. We're beginning to get a much better idea. It's slowly coming into focus certain actors from over the world intelligence agencies from all over the world. Europe, Israel other places have videotapes of these men having sex with little children. That's what it is. I mean that's that's enough to make you change a vote on a certain bill earlier, your stance towards a certain issue, isn't it? See It only seemed as an and the thing is, is that they used pedophilia. Because that in many ways is the only. Sin. The, only unforgivable sin left every I. Mean. If they used, you know the blackmail of of these men having extramarital affairs with other adult women mean that you know. Okay. We might have to resign from office over the shame from that, but they don't want you to resign not necessarily. They want you to remain in office. They just want you to carry out their bidding. This seemed to have done the trick it only seemed as though they were acting against their own self interest turns out, they were acting in exactly their self interest, right? I, mean, it's hard to overstate what the implications of all this is is exactly. Virginia Godfrey, whose may be one of the most famous juice face of Epstein's victims nowadays. She. Says, while she was involved with Epstein for four years in the late nineties and early two thousands of started when she was fifteen. She saw maybe a hundred girls come and go from his orbit directly involved in the sex trafficking. That is, she actually thinks it's it's more than about according to these documents that were unsealed. That's the number she felt most comfortable saying, well, as definitely more than in other words, she was asked how many girls do you think we're affecting and she said, Oh, Gosh, I couldn't even. I. Couldn't even has guests I couldn't even tell you that's how many there were. and. So she's asked okay. Well, if if you complete this sentence. It was definitely more than X.. What number would you assign X. and she said Oh a hundred and other words. That's the bare minimum. It was actually much higher than that. Maria farmer, who's another a of epsteins victims? She lived and Leslie. Wexner house in the mid to late nineties for a year. Maybe less several months. She was discovered by Maxwell and Epstein as an art student in New York City. And she worked for Epstein for several months and she found herself living on Leslie Wexner, his compound in Columbus. Ohio. as a living artist and artworks were commissioned from her from by Epstein and by Maxwell, and she wexner also had her working on several art for Hollywood films. While she was in. New. York City. She was kind of working in Epstein. On the upper east side and she was signed visitors in and out as they came and went from that mansion. She said she would see four or five girls a day a day folks. I mean how many children have been kidnapped over the last there I mean, the sex trafficking and child abduction really became a nationwide epidemic in this country late seventies and early eighties. That's when this all started. That's when this ring as far as we know kind of came to fruition. Farmer actually calls wexner. The head of the snake in this thing, wexner is the owner of L. Brands. If you've never heard of L. Brands, you've heard of their subsidiary companies, Victoria secret, for example, and L. Brands Company bath and body works as an L. Brands Company. She says, it was funded by him. She eventually found herself living on his massive compound in Columbus. Ohio. Weixin knows compound in Columbus Ohio. Sits on three, hundred, thirty, six acres in that town. Nearly five square miles. I mean, the size of a small town. Is main houses forty, five, thousand square feet. Large. The House that farmer was living in was ten thousands. That's the Guest House Ten Thousand Square feet. She says, they had snipers walking around in the bushes. She had to call wexner wife Abigail Wexner, and ask for permission, and when she wanted to leave the house, she was there for several months. She only left the house, a handful of times she said. And so You know she's she's there for some time. one day. She tells the story of Epstein and Maxwell coming out to visit and they take her up to the main house. They take up to a bedroom up there, and they sexually attempt to sexually assault or the both of them at the same time. She fights them off, runs, downstairs runs to the guest house. Soon after that Wexner, his head bodyguard, this is according to former says he's going to kill her. She goes absolutely crazy. She makes the biggest thing in the world about it. This is according to her. She gets on the phone and she calls everyone. She knew she calls friends, she calls family calls ex-boyfriends, she calls everybody. She knows she calls nine one nine. This is where it gets interesting. The dispatcher doesn't help her refuses to help her nine one one. She calls back and second time, and the dispatcher says you understand the sheriff is at the game of the home and not there to help her there apparently to make sure things go according to plan. Dispatcher tells her you don't understand the sheriff is at the gate. You're not leaving that place today and hangs up the phone. This is what the nine one one dispatcher tells her. Columbus for the longest time was the sex trafficking capital of the world whenever kids were abducted, they'd be taken to Columbus and then they from there, there would leave the country. What? Exactly? Who have these people done? Farmer tells the story of riding around New York City and when she was still here with Maxwell. And Maxwell with see groups of young schoolgirls in their school uniforms walking around presumably after school at out. and. She would or to the car to be stopped, she would tell the driver stopped the car and she would hop out and she would approach these girls and she would attempt to recruit them. I mean, I'm not I'm not really sure were ready to handle the The implications of this thing I mean thinking people could be this evil. Is a you know it's a little scary. Isn't it? People don't want to face things that scare them. And we revert a lot of times to normalcy bias, and we say, well, you know this couldn't possibly have have. You know there's gotTa be more to the story than this. You know I'm sure you know the sheriff was at the gate. Know that couldn't have happened. You know the bodyguard said he was going to kill or it wasn't really going to go. But apparently, all of the stuff is exactly as it's being told. Why isn't the media using its powers of perception, the mainstream media and investigative skills on. Don't they love uncovering scandals? Isn't that the mainstream media's job bringing down rich and powerful people? Why aren't they using their powers of perception and they're they're in investigative skills on this store? You have to dig, you have to read articles and articles and articles to come up with names, like Leslie, Wexner and Maria. For you have to wade through hours of of youtube videos, she's getting a lot more press now because their stories starting to come out. But you don't have to go any further than the headline to come across Bill Clinton's name. You don't have to read more than two or three paragraphs down to any article. You you. You're reading to come up with Prince Andrew and the role he played and how he was involved. That's not the story. Now last week, there was there were save The children rallies all over the world. last week, there was a world day trafficking day, which was celebrated on July thirtieth. There were rallies held California and Virginia Texas. They're part of a of an organization called Operation Underground Railroad, which is bringing awareness to human trafficking. That group reports having rescued nearly four thousand victims over the past six years just at one goop and assisted in the arrest of more than two thousand traffickers around the world. Save the Children Hashtags have grown in popularity and social media. Hashtag Save the children. We'll just yesterday facebook began banning any posts with that Hashtag. So any post anything that you post and you you write Hashtag Save the children in your speaking out. You're advocating you're trying to bring awareness to sex trafficking facebook. Now, bands you. It's that blatant now folks. They're saying that anything that you know the move is being made anything. That is good. And anything. That is right. Anything. That is adjust anything that is holy. If you WANNA take it that for we're going to attack and we're going to destroy and they're telling you in no uncertain terms I. mean they're not using these words, but they're telling you this what their actions, you're not going to do anything about your impotent. We are in control. Now, what are you going to do about it? They're asking? You know we've been numb. been covering the mcclosky story. Over the last couple of months, you may or may not have heard about the story. This is the story of Mark and Patricia mccloskey. a couple from Saint, Louis who defended their home against protestors with guns, the protesters black lives matter protesters had trespassed into their gated community back in June late June June, twenty eighth. And the protesters were on their way. Allegedly to the home of of Saint Louis mayor elite across in. We're to demand her resignation. There were held as big rally in front of her home, and they were Gonna the man, her resignation. While they cut through a gated community, they bust through a gate and they'd cut through a gated community and their presumably on their way to Mare croutons house. While the mccloskey's, they don't know. They see a bunch of you know this is at the height of the George. Floyd protests. and. They see much of protesters cutting through their community, they come out with guns. And you know they think that the protesters are there apparently to do damage to the homes in the community. So they come out with their guns and their k. get at your, you're trespassing. You don't belong here. This is a private gated community. It's not public property private property. You're trespassing go away. No shots were fired and the protests left soon. You know soon after mccloskey was holding Ar Fifteen Rifle Patricia was holding a small pistol. You've probably seen pictures of this somewhere on social media over the last several months. While the police Saint Louis Police, execute a warrant at at the mccloskey's home a couple of weeks after them. And during that search, the couples guns are taken away and it was unclear at the time what the grounds were for the confiscation, the weapons were. Legally. Will on July, Twentieth, Saint Louis Circuit, attorney Kim, Gardner files charges against the couple against the mccloskey's they were standing on their front porch folks and trespassers and protesters were trespassing onto their property, and they were defending their home. They pointed guns at them and told him to go away. Saint. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Garner filed charges against the mccloskey's they were charged with one count of unlawful use of a weapon. The charges a class, D felony. They face anywhere from one to four years and another probably not gonNA. Do any time Republican Governor Mike Parson? has made it clear that he's probably gonNA, part in them if it ever came to that. And Missouri, Attorney General Eric Schmidt also Republican is is working hard to have the charges dismissed before they go any further. But Gardner this woman Gardner. said at the time. She was charging the couple in order to protect the rights of people to quote peacefully protest, it's illegal. She said in a statement to waive weapons in a threatening manner. These people were against standing on their front porch. It's illegal she she wrote in a statement to wave weapons in a threatening manner, those participating in a nonviolent protest, she says, this type of conduct is unacceptable in Saint Louis. That's not even the worst part. It's now been learned. That crime lab staff members were ordered to Disassemble Patricia pistol. The pistol that Patricia mccloskey was holding and reassemble as reassemble it to make it. Operable Missouri. Law says for person that face the charge that Patricia facing gun would need to be operable. The mccloskey's are lawyers. And they're Democrats by the way at, they've been sympathetic the democratic causes in the past. and so they had taken this pistol. The one that Patricia was Patricia mccloskey was holding and made it inoperable. So they could be used in a courtroom. Well crime lab staff members were ordered by the prosecutor's Office to strip a handgun and reassemble it correctly. So that it worked that appears to have made the gun quote readily capable of lethal use, which are the exact words that prosecutors used and charging documents when charging the mccloskey's. The Gardner Gardeners Office declined to comment on the revelation. My Mark mccloskey gun was operable at the time. And it was also testified by the crime lab, but they but they directly and deliberately tampered with evidence to make the charges stick. Eight days after Saint Louis Circuit Attorney Gardner filed those charges. George Soros donated one, hundred, sixteen, thousand dollars to a political action committee established just for Garner. Last Saturday of filing with the Missouri Ethics, Commission revealed a donation made directly from George Soros to the Missouri Justice and Public Safety. Political Action Committee that Political Action Committee is set up apparently just for Gardner as far as we know, no one else benefits from it and so far. Soros is the only donor for that pack. The committee has already spent more than one, hundred, thousand dollars including seventy, seven, thousand dollars directly on. Gardner. That money seems to have paid off. Right. Gardner had a primary contest this week, she won by a margin of sixty, one percent to thirty nine percent. This woman, the story that the finances tell here is that she's a direct employee of George Soros. Not of not of yours, not a mind or the People Saint Louis for that matter. But of sorrows and his agenda, what's the message here? Giving? One hundred, thousand dollars. In a check in a contribution to this woman after she filed these bogus charges and has evidence tampered with against this couple. The message here is good job. Keep doing what you're doing, and you're going to be taken care of there's plenty more where this came from, he wants to tell her. Keep it up. Money is not going to be your problem. I hate to say it but were involved in a war and how? The Times of have found us in a Pelosi liked using that line when it came to the sham impeachment nonsense that we were living with for six or seven months here. But it's much more appropriate for this situation. The Times a found us and we have to take it seriously. It's an information war at this at this point, but they're doing everything. They can to turn it into a kinetic war, turn it into a hot war. Keep in mind when you're talking to people. They. Don't know the evidence that you know. Be. Kind. Be Patient. Don't argue with them, send them videos, send them articles. Let them read for themselves like I've told you before eventually, they're going to read something like this, and the light bulb is going to go off. It took more than a couple of stories to enlighten you, right? Well, it's GonNa, take the same number if not more to enlightened some of these other people argue with them and the best way for now. We're facing a very serious situation. and. The main goal now is waking people up to the realities that are happening in this country and have been happening in the world for a long long time. Show, for said, I hope you enjoyed it. You have any comments on any of the issues we discussed, drop me a line. You can reach me comments ITN show DOT COM, that's comments at it and show dot com. Thanks for listening everyone until next time to carry yourselves in each other. If it's on your mind. It's in the news, subscribe to end the news on both I tunes and on. STITCHER radio. This has been in the news.

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Ep. 4: Friends in High Places

Truth and Lies: Jeffrey Epstein

46:56 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 4: Friends in High Places

"This podcast includes graphic descriptions of sexual assault. It may not be suitable for all listeners. I'm holding in my hands hands. Hey durable power of attorney which gives Jeffrey Epstein the power really over wexner. There's money and real estate this gives Epstein tremendous power. This year was all about the new girls. The Angel stranded their stuff down the runway in ways spreading their wings as in the late nineteen eighties. The man behind one of the most recognizable clothing brands in the world today as secret fashion. Show the the annual spectacle always turns higher as his personal financial adviser a college dropout in his late thirties who had allegedly managed to slip out out of a Ponzi scheme unscathed Eichel criminal mastermind. Jeffrey Epstein Would Brag about only taking on billionaire client assist with as our team of ABC News Investigative Journalists Poured through thousands of pages of SEC filings. Sailing's and other records. This look at this. It became clear. There was only one key billionaire in Jeffrey. Epstein's Life Leslie. Wexner governor is very clearly the most important individual that ever crossed paths with with Jeffrey Steen. He really hit the Jackpot and and we set out to unravel. The mystery is really different. They said your financial manager you know. I have friends that under financial managers and they have a lot of clients and he said nor have one client. I only need one client and my client is a billionaire and his name is les. Wexner the idea that this person who has limited experience no college education is suddenly taking over money management for he a billionaire Mr Wexner. That's virtually unheard of Jeffrey Epstein. Spent more than fifteen years as the personal some of financial advisor to Leslie Wexner now would've epsteins. Biggest clients for years was the CEO of L. Brands. which owns Victoria's secret and bath and body works billionaire less Wexler Sir Epstein would find his way into les wexner inner circle becoming the man that wexner trusted with his fortune? Power of attorney is usually limited to a certain aspect. I hear it's being used to basically hand over all the keys to Mr. wexner Westerners treasure chest to Mr Epstein and with that apparent connection to that icon. ICK brand women across the country would tell us that Epstein eighteen pursued more than just financial gain and then he was putting his hands on my hips and my buttocks and saying. Let me manhandle you. So I got extremely terrified of that year's financial victims and he has sexual victims in that sense that's why I called him a Super Predator. I'm Mark Remillard. And Today on Truth and Lies Jeffrey Epstein how Epstein used his relationship with one of the world's world's most successful businessmen to catapult him into financial fortune chapter. Four folks friends in high places New Albany Scotus Rolling Hill. White fences were just You know farmers But yet these massive million dollar mansions tucked away and people have being able to isolate isolate themselves. I'm driving through new Albany Ohio. It's a suburb just northeast of Columbus population. A little under eleven thousand. They actually have Fox hunts out in this area they have a tree and shows Polo matches. I'm with bomb. FA- trick is editor of the Independent newspaper. Columbus free press moved down to Columbus in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven i. I've been a reporter in Columbus abyss. For Twenty eight years. I was an investigative reporter for Columbus Alive from nine hundred ninety six to two thousand and three when I first came to town was interested in politics. So as part of that process. You sort of learn who you have to Nelson in this town that do well and the one person you needed to know who had the most power. The most juice was less west building the Ohio State University expert because all the medical centers. He's got his name. Oh Issue Wexner Medical Center Wexner exner center for the arts. Few look around the town play more buildings but the name wexner on it then. Any person in in central Ohio Baiocco for lack of a better term new Albany is the city that wexner built. It's pristine recently named the number one suburb in in America by business insider. The city's website trumpets that the median household income of New Albany is one hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars. These are custom built in Georgian brick homes for people with a lot of money and they'll be some cheaper homes around around but those will still cost in three quarters of a million dollars and the people that moved there move there in a because of his prestige Steve and and the exclusiveness of you know the town which was usually referred to as Wesley and the largest gist estate of them. All situated right between two very exclusive. Golf clubs is wexner property. Well Wexner is a state in in many ways I think is more in the tradition of the royals Aristocrats parents and Dukes uh of England. Right you've got a lush manufactured gardens. You've got tennis courts. You've got a massive pool and and you got so many fabulous of buildings it looks like ah a small British village. Wexner property is nothing if not private and all along the rows of fences surrounding the land are reminders of his security. This appears to be the main entrance. Oh this is Yeah this is the guardhouse. This is the gardens and this road goes directly up to wexner property actually to the home area. Yeah yeah this is how you can drive in go past security price or not out here already. We see the kid will. Yeah I can see CAM and you see a bunch of cameras and wow that's amazing. There's a sign that says it's canine patrol. If you wanted to see what the estate really looks like you'd have to fly over it You can't see anything really extends into the property. ooh It's it's just hills of grass and lined with trees and you can see that different really forest to your right now. I mean you'd never no really large enough to have it sunset Code Leslie. H wexner is the eighty two year old head of L. Brands a fortune fortune-500 retailer with thirteen billion dollars in revenue annually. And to understand how he came to build his own city. You first have to understand how he built his empire. Now we have about four thousand stores offices all over the world. That's wexner speaking in in two thousand nine at Harvard University's Center for public leadership about how he grew his business. Les Wexner started out small. He's he's a local who grew up in Dayton and graduated from Ohio State University before he went to work in his parents clothing shop. And in his own recollection times. Times were tough. I was raised in the kind of Family we're kind of had to work my way through grade school and high school and college. Ah set out on his own in nineteen sixty three launching his first business with five thousand dollars. He says he borrowed from his on an Dan in two thousand seventeen in an interview with the American Academy of Achievement. He says the idea was simple. His store would sell a range of products the ones he knew were selling best at the family store real closet staples and he'd call it the limited because I had limited assets sets people vote as a terrible name. They said it sounds like a train. And when is the limited leaving town and I said no no. It's it describes CBS the assortment in it's a romantic name. What started out as a small local operation quickly grew his growth atop the limited? It was also a function of the expansion of what for one of a better term. Is the retail shopping experience. He really. It caught the growth of outdoor and indoor malls and mall culture. ABC News Contributor. Roddy Boyd is an investigative investigative financial journalist and founder of the Southern Investigative Reporting Foundation. You'd be hard pressed further nine thousand nine hundred seventies eighties through even two thousand five or six to find a major American mall without at least several stores that were we're under the limited's umbrella he's been described as the leading female clothes retailer. In America and the limited grew and grew eventually truly encompassing some top brands under its umbrella Abercrombie and Fitch Ben Dell's bath and body works. And Victoria's secrets grits but one of Wexner 's biggest successes was the one thousand nine hundred takeover of a small lingerie company for just one million dollars and turning it into to the world's flagship brand any mall of any note is going to have a victorious sacred starting in about one thousand nine hundred. Eighty the limited's growth growth which was always pretty impressive. Just takes off. I mean it acquires and launches a series of brands that that it really catapulted this company from a cornerstone of the average American mall to do a global retailing powerhouse and in eighty two. The company acquires. Victoria's secret and the stores we're just the beginning soon. There was a catalog and then the fashion shows. And the Victoria's secret model was born. The iconic fashion show taking place in New York City after a stint in London last year. The fashion world's current girl bring in the supermodels that are going to model the lingerie for Victoria's secrets and the whole notion that you'd have a fashion show every year you know for lingerie and in a you put put out these magazines. That are you know enticing. Yeah for people to look at and a lot of that is really marketing genius You're just expecting you know those lingerie as from Victoria secret is going to change her. Love Life Changer. Is Your relationship and your marketing dreams. And as the limited and it's companies continued to grow so too did wexner is wealth wealth today Forbes estimates wexner to be worth four point five billion dollars and as wexner is wealth grew through. He was not only able to build his dream home. He chose to build his dream. City wexner did something spectacularly unusual in this time period of the late eighties early nineties in that he begins to develop his dream town and that sounds like a joke to most people who would do that online in a sins type game. He did it in real life new Albany Albany as we know it today began in the mid nineteen eighties when wexner said to his business partner. Jack I want to build a house in the country. One of his this development partners Jack Kessler in here supposedly out and seeing this beautiful land and thinking thinking about stuff. Like you know. When you're down in Louisville Kentucky Horse Lan email you see all these white picket fences senses and he sort of looks out all this land and it seems to be a reflection of Kentucky horse country? Why can't can't you have the landed tree that loves horses in the suburbs of Columbus wexner came here in Saudi? You realize that he could recreate virtually whatever he wanted. You know with with so much land but building. His Dream City would take a a lot of work in the late nineteen eighties. New Albany wasn't much more than farms and a few hundred residents. You would've snooze through new Albany prior to Wexner exner. Wouldn't have been any of these buildings here and you would have never known know where you were other than You went by some sleepy little town that no one seemed to care about to build his dream city. WEXNER would need help in hundreds of pages of real estate transactions and property records reviewed by ABC. You see a lot of recurring names in the formative years of new Albany. There were wexner attorneys who incorporated numerous companies that were used to purchase land and there was also a man named Herald Levin. Yep Webster didn't do the development of new Albany alone. He'd had a lot of help with his longtime advisers observers. Stanley Schwartz who was actually a neighbor of wax nurse in Columbus for many years as well as Harold Levin who was his personal financial advisor for nearly a decade prior to Epstein's Arrival Herald. Levin's name can be seen scrawled on dozens of corporation records and land deals on behalf of wexner throughout the nineteen eighties. In fact in one thousand nine hundred five wexner exner gave Levin a power of attorney so that he could oversee property that was owned by one of wexner companies but Levin also played a role in managing aging wexner personal finances the primary entity that Westerners personal fortune was housed in was wexner investment has been company. He Ran Wexner Investment Company for almost eight years prior to Epstein's arrival but as the nineteen eighties came to a close close heralds name disappears and in its place the name of someone who would play an even more significant role in wexner personal financial life life. That person was Jeffrey Epstein by Early Nineteen Ninety Awebber Epstein takes over all of Levin's roles according to a letter written by Wexner in twenty nineteen. He says he met Epstein through quote friends who vouched for and recommended him as a knowledgeable financial professional. That friend was reportedly Bob Meister and insurance tycoon who felt that epsteen eighteen was brilliant And wanted to introduce them very prominent People Epstein Craig's own mythology that he only wanted to work with the billionaires William Ayers and here was an actual billionaire. You just had the richest person in Ohio You know be introduced news to you. Wexner says through friends recommendations epsteins professional and personal connections as well as his own early meetings with Epstein Complex ner believed he could trust Epstein as a personal financial adviser and he did in fact he would come to trust Epstein so so much that in July of Nineteen Ninety one he also gave Epstein a power of attorney but unlike the one that Herald Levin had epsteins was was much more powerful. I'm holding in my hands a durable power of attorney which gives Yep Jeffrey Epstein. The power really over wexner money and real estate but it also gives Eckstein power to conduct all business all money all banking all real estate for one of the richest men in the world. epsteins really managing Mister Wexner is billions. I mean this gives Epstein esteemed tremendous power with that power of Attorney Epstein would assist in the building and growth of new Albany in the early nineteen nineties for a time time Epstein and wexner controlled to companies. That served as partners in the new Albany Company. Anything done for a lot of years in new Albany was purely a function of new Albany Company. The New Albany Company would oversee the development of wexner Dream City responsible for laying laying down the roads developing houses creating a commercial district and donated land go for things like ballfields churches synagogues. I mean they were responsible for what houses looked like where they were built. So now you're seeing the real white picket fences. It's the mark of flexner and there's a sign for the the southern limit of women. Moore's Les Wexner constructed as an architect architect as the money man created an exclusive town for the top one percent from scratch. He is new Albany. That's why they call it Wesley. It's the premier upper class community In Ohio and one of the premier places in the Nation Epstein signature can be seen on real estate documents tax filings and corporation records connected to Wexner and that would continue throughout the nineteen nineties. And during that time Epstein starts to to acquire luxury properties all over the world. Leslie Wexner is very clearly the most important individual that ever crossed paths. What's with with Jeffrey? At Stein. He really hit the Jackpot in nineteen ninety. He purchased his home in Palm Beach. Florida for two and a half million dollars I by nineteen ninety one. He bought his first private plane and had at least one full time pilot working for him and just two years. After that he'd finalized finalized the purchase of that ten thousand square foot house adjacent to wexner estate in new Albany for three point. Five million dollars. He buys a spectacular. Nick Tack Euler Nearly Eleven Thousand Square foot mansion on several acres on nearby. Wexner with twenty plus rooms pool and Epstein moves in. This is the same home where artist Maria farmer would later say in a lawsuit that Epstein and Glenn Maxwell sexually assaulted altered her in one thousand nine hundred ninety six but despite having homes in multiple states epsteins. True home was still New York. And he wastes NOT-I'm upgrading his life there as well in the mid Nineteen Eighties Epstein was running in his own financial consulting firm out of a small apartment in Manhattan by the late nineteen eighties early nineties. You may recall. He left towers financial with Steven Hoffenberg claiming that Epstein left with sums of money but it wasn't until nineteen ninety two after three years working for wexner that he moved out of his one bedroom apartment and took over a five storey townhouse on e sixty ninth street. He starts having this vast ask change in his lifestyle that involves a renting the former Iranian consul general residents on sixty ninth street palatial. Beautiful Home epsteins lease on the building in nineteen. ninety-two was twelve thousand dollars a month and while it was nice enough for a foreign diplomat. His tenure would be short-lived that's because by early nineteen ninety-six after just four years. He was moving into what can only be described as is a palatial mansion. Just a few blocks away and then in nineteen ninety six he takes full possession of nine. E- seventy first st the largest town home in Manhattan which is now valued about valued at seventy seven million dollars. The home on nine East seventy first street is eighteen. Two Thousand Square feet nestled between Manhattan's fifth and Madison Avenues and was originally purchased by Les Wexner in one thousand nine hundred nine but when news reports about the building were published in the Mid Nineteen Ninety S. The December nineteen ninety-five cover of architectural digest puts les wexner sneers massive townhouse some describe as the largest single residents in New York City on the Cover Epstein tells the Times at the time that I live here West. Doesn't I own it though. That wasn't really the case property. Pretty records show that in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. The home was purchased by a company called Nine East Seventy First Street Corporation which was owned by Les Wexner Sner Epstein wouldn't come to own the property until nineteen ninety eight. That's when a Weser family spokesperson tells. ABC News that Wexner sold his stake in ninety seventy first street corporation to a company controlled by Epstein for twenty million dollars but as is financial investigative journalist. Roddy Boyd puts it regardless of who own this remarkable property from late. Ninety five early ninety ninety six to the naked eye it's Epstein who's benefiting from living there who's hosting people throwing parties. He's not shy about letting people know that he owns it. So it's obvious that he accrued all the benefits of off the property from this relationship and this causes many people including myself. Say What is this relationship. Yep who is this guy. The roughly six years between when Epstein Leaves Towers Financial and when he moves into the mansion on seventy first street are are remarkable years for Epstein as his wealth appears to grow exponentially. And we've poured over thousands of pages of government filings during our investigation instigation. That may help explain how this happened. This episode of Truth and lies. Jeffrey Epstein is brought to you by. ABC's for life from executive producer. Curtis Fifty Cent Jackson comes a powerful new series inspired by a true story. One man's journey from wrongly convicted prisoner to jailhouse lawyer. Battling a corrupt system from within all in the name of freedom a legal procedural family drama unlike any other for life premieres Tuesday February eleventh breath ten nine central on ABC epsteins role. In Les Wexner. Life was more than just assisting in the growth of new Albany Epstein Takes Silver Managing Wexner personal finances in one thousand nine hundred nine epsteins name first appears on IRS forms for one of wexner charities once again financial investigative journalists and ABC News Contributor. Roddy Boyd in nineteen eighty nine. We I get get documentary. Evidence of Jeffrey Epstein's emerging role within the WEXNER empire. He he shows up in the wexner foundation form nine ninety which is sort of like the charity's annual report listing its its revenues and expenditures and grants in that document Epstein is listed as the bookkeeper but he would come to do far more more than just keep the books he quickly becomes listed as a trustee secretary or executive of a host of trusts and charitable foundations linked linked to wexner one is called health and science interests another one is called arts interests and another one is heritage interests and then within those he added a few more our investigation found nearly a dozen trusts connected to wexner that had Epstein listed as the trustee in which means he was in charge of managing the assets and we found these trusts and the wexner foundation's they supported were funded with large chunks of stock in Wexner company the limited criminologist an ABC news contributor. Tom Vol- show. And then the trustee of the trust whose Mr Epstein proceeds to then sell it mostly through the New York Stock Exchange but sometimes in private transactions in one case has Epstein can be heard saying in tapes shared with ABC Easy News by journalists. David Bank. He said quote. I don't tell wexner what sweaters to buy. He doesn't tell me when to buy or sell stock an an in reviewing records from the SEC and the National Archives we found between one thousand nine hundred ninety one and two thousand six the year before wexner would revoke epsteins power of Attorney Epstein sold a lot of stock more than one point three billion dollars of limited stock held by by these trusts and other wexner related entities. He was in charge of billions of dollars of stock sales and allocating those pools rules of cash to the various charities. And as we've tracked all these stock sales potential pattern seems to emerge Epstein selling off off large chunks of limited stock for various wexner trusts and shortly after making large purchases for himself in Nineteen ninety-two to as trustee. He sold off thirty two million dollars worth of limited stock three months later. He buys his three point. Five million dollar home next to wexner estate in new Albany and just four months after that he picks up a huge thousands of acre plot plot of land and builds a ranch on IT Zorro ranch in New Mexico and the potential pattern seems to continue for most of the nine hundred ninety S. We we see him liquidating stock on behalf of these trusts than remodel his palm beach home. Purchase planes and in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight after selling more than the two hundred and twenty million dollars in stock less than three weeks after the final sale he makes one of his most lavish purchases yet his his own private island. They actually buys a virgin island. He goes from living in a one bedroom apartment to living living. Like he's a Turkish Pasha where European landed gentry. Now you might be saying to yourself. Epstein is working for the billionaire. Wouldn't he be making a lot of money. And while that's likely the case the lifestyle he was leading was extraordinary for a financial advisor. visor with one primary client. Even if that client was Les Wexner. So what do our financial experts make of all this. With power of attorney I believe that Epstein probably converted miss some of Mr Wexner assets into his own uses. And when we follow the money into the two thousands we see evidence of how Epstein may have done that a few look at Epstein's charities in the early two thousands this CEO You Queue Foundation that Epstein ran out of the Virgin Islands it receives An infusion of stock from Wexner 's other other charitable fund and it was eleven million dollars of limited to stock and Epstein promptly sells the stock for thirteen million. There Hart even two examples where we see donations from wexner foundation's into Epstein foundations. I mean there's even a ten million dollar grant from a wexner foundation to a foundation. Ezzeddine had set up for a sensibly charitable purposes in two thousand in free. So I mean these are busy busy times for Epstein one of the things that just share with view is maybe this could relate to this in a positive way but at some point in your life we are all betrayed by friends. Not until two thousand nineteen following. Jeffrey Epstein's second arrest did Les Wexner address his relationship with Epstein during a meeting with investors in his company company claiming that he cut ties with Epstein more than a decade ago. After he found out he was duped by the man. He led take financial control of his personal personal fortune. Being taken advantage of by someone who was So sick so cutting so depraved It's something that I'm embarrassed that I was even close to but That is in the past. And in August twenty nineteen wexner penned a letter to the members of his foundation claiming that Epstein had misappropriated quote vast sums of money from him wexner disclosed that he too was a victim of Epstein's machinations and claimed to be owed vast sums of money that Epstein had stolen from he and his family wexner says they learn about the missing money in two thousand seven during the time that Epstein was under investigation in Florida so wexner revoked the power of attorney and took the management of his personal finances and affairs away from Epstein and in his letter Wexner also says that Epstein later repaid him. mm-hmm forty six million dollars in assets that represented a portion of that missing money Mr Epstein on one of the tax returns for his foundation ABC's Q in Two thousand seven remits about forty six million dollars worth of stock to a foundation. RUN BY MR wexner spouse Abigail wexner but the question remains. How much was that vast sums of money? How much did Epstein misappropriate? It's now twelve years. After wexner claims he discovered Epstein had stolen money from him and his family but in his public statements wexner owner has never said how much and despite our asking his spokespeople would not provide a number for. The amount of money he believes is missing while in control of Wexner Personal Fortune Epstein was unquestionably living. An extraordinary life. Private jets is on private island and a bank account with no limits it was clear Epstein could live whatever kind of life he wanted and it was also clear that during this time some of the earliest allegations of sexual abuse would be made as we've Seen Epstein eighteen us his connection to wexner to enrich himself but women have also told us that he used it to prey on girls and young women in April of nine hundred ninety seven. A good friend of mine was actually working in finance in Beverly Hills. This is Alicia Arden. Twenty years ago she was only Chevelle goes twenty seven years old with the burgeoning career as a model all an actress in Los Angeles. She'd already done some TV roles even making an appearance on Baywatch in nineteen ninety four. I pretty much would consider that. It was always struggling and wanting the next big break in if that would be like a big Modeling job in a catalog or a TV. Show or film in Nineteen ninety-seven a leashes. Says she got a call from her friend. Who told her about what a leash thought might? Just be a big break. An opportunity to appear in the Victoria's secret catalog. It would have been a huge break break. I didn't know how to go about getting in something like that. A leash says her friend had just had a business meeting with Jeffrey Epstein at the Beverly Hills Hotel as she'd been hoping that he would invest in her financial firm and during the conversation Alicia says that Epstein brought up. Victoria's secret he was talking to her about actually modeling for Victoria's secrets she said. I don't WanNA model but if you are looking for girls that would like to be a model you you should meet my friend Alicia. He had told my friend he had ties to get girls in. The Victoria. Secret's catalog. She had told me you. You should call this Guy Jeffrey Epstein. He could get you some work in. The Victoria. Secret's catalog and that's what I said. Okay and I called him. This sounds familiar. Well you're right a year before a leash would meet Epstein Maria farmer the New York artist. We heard from an episode to says that she was told DOC by epsteins. One time girlfriend Glenn Maxwell more than once that Epstein was a model scout for. Victoria's secret and so I was in full view of the front door the war and Jalen would come and go and there was always a bustle in the house when I would get there and she was usually like going shopping or often saying I have to get girls for Jeffrey. I have to go get girls and I would say what do you mean. You have to get girls for Jeffrey and she said we'll Marie I. I have to do this all day long. It's my job I worked for Les Wexner and I'm picking out the Victoria's secret models. She made absolutely. I mean that was one hundred percent. She made it clear she she worked for Les Wexner. Jeffrey worked for Les Wexner. And they were just acquiring models for. Victoria's secret leashes says by the time she called Epstein he was already back in New York and she says she was told to send him some photos. Shortly after they arrived the phone rang. He called me right after he he saw my pictures and said I'm GONNA have my secretary arrange a meeting. And she said. Would you like to meet Jeffrey Epstein. He's coming in town. And so I said I would. So she called me to arrange a time in the afternoon or the evening she was told to meet Epstein at the shutters. This hotel in Santa Monica a luxurious beach resort with direct views of the Pacific putting aside her concerns about an unusual audition process. I had had reservations about going over in meeting him in a hotel room. Because it really doesn't happen. It's a professional environment that I've always gone in casting lasting agencies and legitimate auditions and legitimate venues but Lee. Show was willing to take a chance I wanted to. Victoria's secret's catalog. I was really wanting to get into that and I thought one hundred percent. I have a great chance of getting. At least maybe one picture Alicia says it goes to the hotel room and finds Epstein casually dressed. He had on a sweat pants he was barefoot and he had had a USA sweatshirt on and he was over in the kitchen area. I went over there to give him my book and I said I would love a photo in the Victorian secrets he said. Okay well let me see your book and All your pictures and let me see what I can do. She says Epstein started to study her. He's who's kind of looking at me and saying no. You might be no no about about your hair semi me meaning to see that. So he had let me walk over to him closer and then actually he goes. Well let me see. Let me see underneath your top. Can you pick up your blouse and let me your abs in your stomach and your breasts. Then he began assisting me in taking off my top and then pushing up my skirt skirt to evaluate my body than I thought I and and then he was putting his hands on my hips and my buttocks and saying let me Manhandle you let me. He said the word manhandle so I. I got extremely terrified that a leashes started in thinking how she could get out of the room. I thought things could become unsafe. I didn't want to be attacked or raped. So I thought I'd get my portfolio and I have to leave because this is not going well and so I- collected my portfolio and I wanted to run out of the room. He he acted annoyed and then that I wasn't staying there. I was in there thinking that legal reputable casting. I never ever for once thought that he didn't work for the brand. I always thought that he worked for Victoria. Secret epsteins encounter with Alicia. Arden was not the only time I'm he allegedly hold himself out as a recruiter. For Victoria's secret we've reached out to brands to ask if Epstein or Glenn Maxwell Wherever Model Title Scouts for the Company but representatives haven't provided a response but last year L. Brands told business insider that it had hired an outside law firm to review epsteins relationship with the company and that it doesn't believe he was ever an employee or authorized representative of the company. We have also attempted to to reach Glenn Maxwell About Maria farmers allegations but she has not responded to requests for comment. A leashes says she decided to go to the police and just like Maria farmer. Alicia was among the first to report Epstein to authorities for abusive behavior once again journalist analyst. Bob For traffic is this is the police. Report filed on May Twentieth Nineteen Ninety seven with the Santa Monica Police Department. -partment from Alicia. Arden Alicia goes to the Santa Monica Police Department. And files a report of Sexual Battery Against Jeffrey Epstein. The report God. I'm quoting from said that once inside the hotel room with Epstein. She was unsure of whether she was safe because although she wanted to land the job the report describes a leashes sending her photos to Epstein him asking to meet with her and then her being assaulted inside the hotel room and also like Maria farmer. I was telling the truth and they did nothing about a leash. Says nothing happened. No no one contacted me right after. No one's contacted me but this could have all been stopped at this. Police officer would have called me or put an investigation. Or there's something on him but nobody did anything in nineteen ninety-seven and all of this could have been stopped. And but I couldn't help any of the girl of the girls that I'm hearing that were raped at fourteen and fifteen years old so I would have loved to help. The police would have just called near did something because it could have been stopped. These girls that I'm hearing about from being raped at fifteen. I couldn't even imagine that I couldn't even imagine that we reached out to the Santa Monica Police Department to ask about a leashes report but did not receive a response in the present sent. Everyone has to feel enormous regret for the advantage that was taken of so so many young women. And that's just unexplainable appoint behavior and clearly is something we we all would condemn. A wexner maintains he knew nothing about Epstein sex crimes TMZ prior to the investigation in Florida in two thousand seven and he said in the letter to his foundation that Epstein quote vehemently denied. The allegations is to him. But as we've mentioned shortly after Wexner says he discovered that Epstein had misappropriated money. He severed ties with him wexner. Her has maintained that he too is a victim of Epstein's and he's confirmed that Epstein stole vast sums of money from him over forty six six million dollars so the question remains. Why didn't Les Wexner call the police back in two thousand seven wexner reportedly turned over documents to authorities following Epstein's arrest in two thousand nineteen? But what about in two thousand seven when I discovered the missing money. We asked wexner spokespeople about this but they declined to comment only directing us to Wexner exner previous letter to his foundation. epsteins extraordinary wealth is only one piece of the puzzle though Money Bought Epstein steen his homes and planes. It allowed him to pay the young girls that he abused and it also afforded him. Some of the best attorneys that money can buy But Epstein social connections were also extraordinary and in the one thousand nine Hundred Ninety S. His rolodex grows along with his bank accounts and there is one key person who helped him go from being a wealthy man powerful man so Keelan was one hundred percent the Lady of the the House that Jeffries he made that very clear there was never a doubt about that. We knew who is in charge and it was gallon gallon would say I have all these connections. Jeffrey has all this money together. We're golden we're just the best couple. We have so much fun. I wish he didn't cheat on me but he does very odd. You know very odd. It clearly was not love. I believe that her relationship with Epstein was purely transactional. He was giving her a finances says she needed. And the lifestyle I mean this sort of this idea Epstein collecting people I think to a certain extent Gilan opened her Rolodex Index. Allowed him to sort of kind of take his pick. That's next time on truth and Lies Jeffrey Epstein. The truth in lies. Jeffrey Epstein is a production of the ABC News Investigative Unit and ABC audio Written and hosted by me Mark Remillard produced an edited by Kate McAuliffe reporting for this podcast is led by senior producer James Hill additional reporting by producers Pete Madden Caitlin fomer and Chris Francesconi associate producer. Is Emily Rich. Hausky additional production assistance by Halle Freighter Prithvi Tocchet Kate Holland and Caroline Highland Mixing and scoring by Evan Viola. Special thanks to Terry Ecksteen Josh Cohen. 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"The following episode contains descriptions of sexual violence and may not be suitable for everyone. Please see the episode notes for more information about support services. It's November nineteen ninety ninety three Steven Hoffenberg in his late forties with coughed hair and Brown cheeks puff out when he grins Hoffenberg is known around New York as a quintessential central Wall Street master of the universe recently he bailed out the financially troubled tabloid the New York Post. He turns up at society functions and he's rented a whole floor and trump tower. He made his fortune running. A company called towers financial which bought up debts like unpaid medical bills and got the debtors to pay them at its peak towers had twelve hundred employees. It was worth an estimated ninety five million dollars but Hoffenberg business tactics haven't always been above board the SEC's been investigating him for years and now they have enough evidence to put together a case today. Hoffenberg Sandberg sits inside a grand jury chamber in Chicago With Towers Financial they allege Hoffenberg operated one of the biggest financial frauds in US history. Cheating Investors Astor's out of more than four hundred fifty million dollars. Hoffenberg is planning to cooperate with the government and tell them more about his scheme and also about the man he claims engineered it his business partner. Jeffrey Epstein offenburg takes his seat before the jury the prosecutor your approaches and asks Hoffenberg to walk them through the plan he and Epstein devised step by step. Hof Bergen Epstein targeted people who didn't have much money me retirees widows the disabled and promised healthy return on their investment but instead they use the money to cover losses in other risky business steals and hundreds of thousands of people lost their life savings. It was a classic Ponzi scheme again and again. The prosecutor asked who designed designed the scam and the complex stock manipulations it required. Hoffenberg always answers with the same name. Jeffrey Epstein was the person in charge of the transactions actions. Epstein was trying to manipulate the price of the stock. Yes you didn't object that Sir no Hoffenberg Hoffenberg is sentenced for the scheme and serves nearly two decades in prison to this day. Hoffenberg still says the same thing he said to prosecutors back the he was the mastermind Ralian Wall Street executive that expert in what was taking place at the company that was doing the criminal misconduct he was breathing fast told me that he participating everything with twenty four four seven but when reporters from the Washington Post later look at this case they find something strange even though Hoffenberg grand jury testimony gave detailed tailed damning evidence that Epstein was deeply involved in the scheme epsteins involvement vanishes from the case and while Hoffenberg went to prison for Years Epstein was never charged today. Hoffenberg claims that the money Epstein made from their Ponzi scheme became the foundation nation for his fortune but digging into the origins of Jeffrey Epstein's wealth is more complicated than that where his money came from is still a question reporters are trying to the answer but a few things are certain federal investigators questioned Epstein. About Shady financial deals yet he was never indicted and his fortunes rose when as a young man on Wall Street he was able to charm and win the trust of a few corporate titans including in particular one lonely billionaire the mysterious Mr Epstein sponsored by nets week before I was a fulltime podcast. I I worked in analytical marketing. It was a good gig both creative and data driven and while I love the creative side in the end if you don't know your numbers you don't know your business business but good. 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E. to download your free guide seven key strategies to grow your profits at Netscape dot com slash m. e. from wondering I'm Lindsey Graham host of American scandal and this is the mysterious Mr Epstein. This is episode to poor smart and desperate. It's the spring of nineteen sixty nine at Lafayette High School in South Brooklyn. Jeffrey Epstein is sixteen years old a photo in his senior yearbook shows him in his graduation gown shoulders slouched posing for the camera but looking like his mind is elsewhere another photo taken around the same time shows him shirtless and cutoff jeans his feet in the sand end of Coney Island beach he has a wild mess of hair and a pudgy torso and again he slashed over the young man is a Whiz at math and science and a member the School Band Epstein and his family live in coney island in a cluster of middle class homes surrounded by the flat grey Bluewater of the Brooklyn seaside countless news outlets have reported that Epstein's father. Seymour worked for the Parks Department and on Seymour's death certificate. The Parks Department is listed as his employer but the truth is see more only worked there for three months in nineteen sixty almost like everything else in epsteins origin story even his father. There is a mysterious footnote. After I've seen graduates he attends Cooper Union for two years then he enrolls at New York University but he drops ops out in the summer of seventy four without earning a degree but this is where he makes his first leap up the New York Social Ladder at twenty one years old he lands the job teaching math and physics at one of the most prestigious private high schools in the country where he'll leave a strong impression on the children of New York's elite and their fathers bothers. It's the fall of nineteen seventy five at the Dalton School on Manhattan's Upper East side. The school looks unassuming from the outside. Naas tier brick building windows studied with air conditioners. What inside classrooms are filled with children of celebrities and captains happens industry between classes. Mr Epstein mingles with students. He's got a magnetism now alluded him in his high school days. He'll later be photographed. Graf the school yearbook wearing a suit jacket and a shirt with a flair dot collar unbuttoned revealing his chest and a gold chain Peter Branch who is ahead of the upper school at the time remembers when Epstein arrived with a person like Epstein who could teach physics and higher level. Math skills feels that are still in rare supply in the school world and was clearly ability to convince people that he was something that he wasn't. It's not surprising to me that he was hired. Many students like Mr Epstein on top of teaching math and physics. He also coaches the school's math team. He even performed for the spring musical with the school paper noting that Mr Epstein proved himself to be the ivory showman on the piano Epstein doesn't behave like the other teachers. He attends a party to students house. Were students are drinking. He flirts with girls in the hallways. Rumors circulate eight about Epstein's relationship with one girl in particular. He's never accused of any crimes with the New York. Times will lay report that a few students were quote so discomforted by a close relationship he had with one of their female peers at one of them had raised the issue to a school administrator students at Dalton. Come from some of the wealthiest families always in the country. They're parents aren't easily impressed but Mr Epstein makes an impression. It's through Dalton that Epstein manages to meet ACE Greenberg. A LEGEND ON WALL STREET TURNS OUT THAT EPSTEIN is exactly the sort of man that ace Greenberg likes to recruit like Epstein Greenberg comes from modest means. He arrived in New York looking for work during the recession of nineteen forty nine. I finally did get a job as a clerk bear stearns and was thirty two fifty to your week. That didn't go very far then and I know the prices were cheaper than than they are. Now I can tell you that I still didn't go very far. It didn't go any place still in his early. The fifties Greenberg's risen through the ranks of the investment bank bear stearns and Greenberg's background dictates hiring philosophy. He's on the lookout for what he calls halls. PSD's employees who are poor smart and desperate to get rich dreamer thinks Epstein is an ideal higher for bear stearns for Longtime Epstein Origin Story was that Dalton opened his eyes to a world of boundless wealth influence and power so he quit the teaching engage and with talent despair he went out to make his mark and his millions on Wall Street but the head of the Upper School Peter Branch says Epstein didn't take the job ob seriously that he was falling short of Dalton standards so branch asked him to leave in one thousand nine seventy six Epstein starts at bear stearns as a junior assistant floor trader what he's talented and he quickly moved up the ladder within just four years. Epstein's limited partner at bear stearns most twenty-seven-year-old college dropouts would consider themselves on a glide path to comfort and security already not Epstein. He abruptly leaves bear stearns a year later. He'll tell people it was because he wanted more that he wanted to start his own firm arm. He wanted to help the super rich quote understand the power responsibility and the burden of their money but once again that's not the whole truth. It's April fool's Day nineteen eighty-one just three weeks after Epstein resigned from bear stearns he's being questioned by the Securities Securities and Exchange Commission about allegations of insider trading around a mineral company called the Saint Joe Minerals Corporation the SEC investigators starting on obscene sir. You aware that certain rumors may have been circulating around your firm in connection with your reason for leaving the firm. I'm aware there were many rumors. Were the rumors you heard nothing to do with Saint Joe. Has Anyone indicated to you in anyway either directly or indirectly in words or substance that your compensation Asian for this past year or any future money's coming from bear stearns we'll be contingent upon you're not divulging information to the Securities and Exchange Commission no uh the questioning goes on but the SEC never brings charges against Epstein or anyone else at Bear Stearns Epstein later admits that part of why he he left bear stearns was over illegal loan to an old friend. He claims he didn't know it was illegal but that it cost him his shot at becoming a full partner nevertheless when Epstein leaves he still gets his annual bonus of one hundred thousand dollars but the boss doesn't last long and soon soon Epstein is reportedly broke. He needs a new plan. Jeffrey Epstein stands in front of a building in midtown. Manhattan called the Villard arthouse. It's as long as a city block and has touches of an Italian Palazzo once the residence of a railroad tycoon. Epstein's new business partner set him up with an office at this coveted address. He's paying Epstein. Twenty five thousand dollars a month to serve as his business consultant his new business partner. You're is named Steven Hoffenberg the head of Towers Financial Together Epstein Hoffenberg come up with a new business venture they I take money from retirees on the pretense of safe investments and then use them to keep their own aggressive business ventures afloat a when the investments nosedive all four hundred sixty million of the retirees money is lost in the wreckage. Hoffenberg gets indicted and ends up in prison prosecutors though do nothing to pursue Epstein further to this day. Hoffenberg claims not to understand why there's no explanation for not charging. That's Chrissy should have been drugged so Epstein skates out of one of the largest Ponzi schemes in American history and back to running his advisory firm J Epstein and Co f seen boasts that it has only one rule billionaires only if you only have nine hundred ninety nine into your name take a hike but if you have a Billion Dollars J Epstein and company will happily shoulder the burden of managing your wealth which leads to very fruitful relationship with the only billionaire he'll ever publicly confirm as a client of J Epstein and company billionaire who turned a single clothing store into a retail retail empire that would include Abercrombie and Fitch and Victoria's secret. His name is Les Wexner and he's the man who made Jeffrey Ramstein the mysterious. Mr Epstein is sponsored by simply safe. 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If you're enjoying the mysterious Mr Epstein want to hear more about this criminal case. There's another podcast from wondering called Real Crime Brian Profile that we know you'll enjoy in real crime profile. Jim Clemente retired. FBI Supervisory Special Agent Laura Richards a criminal behavioral analyst and leases uses Ambati the casting director for CBS's criminal minds team up together to profile behavior from real criminal cases right now. Real crime profile is doing a special companion series to the mysterious. Mr Epstein called forensically deconstructing Epstein subscribe to Real Crime Profile on Apple PODCASTS spotify or wherever you're listening right now. It's the late nineteen eighties. Jeffrey Epstein is Flying First Class from New York to Palm Beach sitting beside him as a man named Robert Meister epsteins steen's been known to use bogus upgrade stickers to get a seat at the front of the plane but Meister is a man who belongs in First Class. He's the vice. Chairman of a large insurance company called a on one of his biggest clients and a man he considers his friend is Leslie Wexner. The billionaire founder of a company called the limited limited sitting next to him something about Epstein Catches meisters attention. They talk the entire flight. He's an interesting charming Guy Meister. Thanks files epsteins name away in his mental rolodex sometime later according to one author account wexner confides in Meister that he's having problems problems with the people managing his money and Meister recalls that engaging man he met on the plane he offers to introduce Wexner to Epstein which he does soon soon Epstein Wexner or working together and here's another place where the fax seemed to Shift Epstein reportedly brax to friends that he first met Wexner ochsner back in one thousand nine hundred eighty six and one has trust by convincing him to keep his money out of stocks just before the eighty seven market crash but if that story is true it means is that Epstein was already managing wexner billions at the same time he was running a Ponzi scheme with Hoffenberg when a reporter for Vanity Fair points this out Epstein insists. It wasn't until eighty nine well after the crash that he started working with wexner either way. Jeffrey Epstein is about to become very very rich judge. Leslie Wexner is in his early fifties. He sharply dressed with a trim build a winning smile somehow says can you believe on a billionaire what lock that's the public persona anyway. At least one of his friends says wexner is a lonely isolated by his success and vulnerable but even a lonely billionaire running a huge company will have layers of staff advisors and lieutenants. What's unusual about `Bout Epstein as he enters webster's. Life is how quickly he penetrates wexner inner circle soon it seems epsteins the only one in that circle patrolling the long hauls at L. Brands. H Q visiting wexner is Ohio mansion overseeing construction of Wexner is one hundred million black hold triple decker super yacht he torments wexner employees and aggravates the billionaires friends. Bob Betrays a political science. Professor and former turn list's who wrote for an all weekly newspaper in Ohio remembers what people were saying the everytime waxed and his name was mentioned. Jeff at Steen's name was mentioned as his Sorta to stick stor logistic by financial man and everyone knew Jeff Epstein spoke for less west and and he was in powered by his glorified. That lay is fix sir four sir see a lover. I mean suddenly. WC's in charge of all x news finances and dealing Epstein becomes more and more involved in aspects of West life he goes from overseeing the building of Westerners Yacht and dealings with friends and family to even replacing wexner own mother on the board of his Charitable Foundation. Then on July Thirtieth Nineteen ninety-one Wexner Hands Epstein the keys to his multibillion dollar Rafael he signs a power of Attorney Agreement that Grants Epstein the right to act on wexner behalf stock purchases real-estate transactions of laws all without wexner oversight around the same time Epstein helps wexner develop a vast community of luxury homes outside Columbus Ohio Epstein gets one of these homes at a steep discount. It has twenty three rooms pool and a bath house but epsteins true. The Real Estate Prize is in Manhattan Wexner owns a property there that makes even the New York apartments of Epstein's former bear stearns colleagues looked like doll houses wexner townhouses a few blocks from the met it seven stories tall twenty one thousand square feet with a fifteen foot high oak door. It's one of the largest private residences in all Manhattan but wexner barely even spends time there so Epstein moves in in Nineteen Ninety six next. He tells people that he bought the house from wexner but there's no public document recording sale. Epstein will use this mansion to entertain the likes of Bill Clinton Prince Andrew The Duke of your Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia and a young woman works that this will become one of the first known victims of Epstein Sexual assaults. That's on the next episode of the mysterious. Mr And take on this has been partook are two of six of the mysterious Mr Obscene on the next episode. The kid from coney island buys his very own island and uses his newfound connection to Victoria's secret too horrifying ends. If you like stories of far-reaching scandals listen and subscribe to my series American scandal where we tell the stories from the Enron financial essential fiasco to the Eliot Spitzer political drama you can find it by searching for American scandal in your favorite podcast APP. This is a story about power abuse use and manipulation. 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Beyond A Reasonable Doubt - June 10, 2021

Reasonable Doubt

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Beyond A Reasonable Doubt - June 10, 2021

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We actually had a guest in studio and he and his His crew just left the building and then mark. And i decided to record again so we'd have a brd and mark. You may not know this. This is our twentieth episode beyond a reasonable doubt. Is it really yeah. I did not know that. Wow okay well we'll celebrate. I'll crack open a black cherry and take a spin. And i've got cream soda. That looks enough like a beer. So very i've got by the way i've got. I hate to keep giving them plugs. One of my ex employees just brought by a very nice bottle of dj nineteen forty two to thank me for her new job so i may have to crack that open at some point. you know. i was reading an article. Gary i wouldn't. I was going to talk about or chat with you about. The merrick garland department of justice. Making the argument this week. Our continuing to make the argument that trump that the department of justice should substituted for the defense of trump in the gene carroll lawsuit that has been brought in new york state board And then went to federal court. Judge denied it the now up at the second circuit surprising to me actually very surprising that this department of justice is now defending what many people thought was a tremendous overreach by the bill barr department of justice in the first place for those. That don't remember jean. Carol was somebody who allege that trump had assaulted her sexually assaulted or Or raked are that key. Then as president said famously denied it and also she's not as type and a couple of other things. She sued for defamation. Presumably because the rape was outside the statue of limitations defamation to order brought to within the statute of limitation bill bars department of justice removed that action from state court took to federal court made the argument that the department of justice was substituting in because he was president and that the case should be dismissed. The trial court. Judge denied that it's up in the second circuit most legal observers. Believe once bar was out of office. Let's the department of justice. Got a new. Ed namely merrick. Garland that that would be the end of that. They would quietly Withdraw the notice of appeal. That would be dismissed. Oh contractor right. So so i was you send me some of the material on this and i was reading it as well. You know. i'm obviously a bit of a lay person when it comes to this. Is it possible that there are still some of the rank and file in those offices. Who may be aren't excited about the new administration and push this through without getting reviewed by the new head. You know in garland just doesn't seem like this sort of thing would happen without it being run by someone loyal to the new administration. I don't understand unless i got back. I do understand. There is a what you're seeing because not the first time so far that we've seen decisions that have been made in this department of justice it would seem to put to most observers. Have been unwell or undone. Because it was the most people thought it was reached. There is a kind of an institutional inertia. I think in the department of justice and i i find it hard to believe that this was not run up the flagpole of main justice finding it hard to believe that they didn't sign off on this and i also find it hard to believe because it's been done this process o. Substituting it under the code section and then moving to dismiss has been done in previous administrations however. This seems to be to be such a reach. Legally that i'm very. I admit to being surprised that they didn't quietly let this die. Let the lawsuit go on. And i guess the speculation could be. Is they some thought. Well we don't want the department of justice to look overly politicized. I saw somebody make that argument to which i say. Well that's funny. That means that whenever you get in and you do something. That looks overly politicized so that your counterbalance is not the apple cart in reverse makes very little sense to me right and if you know if that were in fact the case i the white house would probably not have done a whiplash style. You know statement saying that. The justice department did not run. This by the white house wanted to back away from this this situation as fast as it could yeah and understandably so because a lotta people commented including i think then candidate Biden when it happened. I think a lot of prominent legal scholars commented at the time Just as outside the box. This kind of action was by the department of justice in. It is surprising to me the other topic that i wanted to just touch on. I read an article a long form article last night which was somewhat fascinating to me. Although the some of the way that it was put together. I would probably challenge but it was a long form For lack of a better term. Expose of the relationship between mr webster who founded the limited department store chain. That went on to buy. Victoria's secret And his relationship with jeffrey epstein and it was a fascinating account and now there are in his step down and be legal aspect of this is when near when the whole epstein thing broke. They had hired. That organization had hired a couple of successive law firms to do a deep dive on the relationship. And how this game to be and everything else. And i think as a prelude to the just play maxwell case it would not surprise me if this relationship of epstein and the wexner there's Had the monies that were either transferred or then re transferred back at a certain point would not play a significant in that trial which is coming up and arguably could be this summer right. Yes we hear. A reasonable doubt very much looking forward to that trial so we can cover it and cover it on beyond as well as someone who has not read that article. When i hear those names together. The story that sticks in my head that was sort of more sensationalized especially around the time of his death wasn't mr wexner. Who gave him his hundred twenty million dollars in new york penthouse just gave it to him for free is that am i remember. It was one dollars. Supposedly read the article. They couldn't find the transfer records. There was a lot of things that were in the article. Where they posited what the rumor was and then either debunked or couldn't about cabrillo. I wouldn't mind having the author on and getting Doing a little Get getting some explanations because the is some of the interesting stuff. There was kind of an undercurrent that maybe there was more of a personal relationship. There was One of the guys who kind of makes an appearance in the article and then at the beginning drops in in the middle of the end is a former financial adviser to mr wexler who apparently after he was fired for alerting him or sounding the siren of The jeffrey epstein kind of flashing red lights that he was fired subsequently got divorced his wife left him. He became homeless and And quite a tragic story in kind of his vindication he might actually be an interesting person to hear from his well but the the kept coming back to the idea that there was this amazing. Trust on the bath of mr wester. With jeffrey epstein number. One number two that all kinds of people in their circle were sounding the alarm including a ex security person who worked closely their. Who's who kept accusing Epstein of being a con man or characterizing and as such and that there was some. I don't want to call it a spend. Golly like old but webster had had relinquished quite a bit of his financial controls and fortune. to to mr epstein in that epstein had a kind of free rein so to speak with an enormous fortune. I mean billions of dollars and the whole way that it was set up in the article. Kind of weaned in a lot of things that appeared to be a rumor. Innuendo the couldn't be confirmed along with quotes from various people at various times that tended to have a certain viewpoint that i thought was fascinating. Also alan dershowitz was quoted. Liberally throughout the article looks like he may have been interviewed or given some time To kind of point out various things so maybe dershowitz as well leads to come on in and revisit us and and give us his insight into this as well. Allen is a frequent returning guests. Welcome anytime and he knows it all right so i'll close this out with a an adam style question after reading what you've read knowing what you know and seeing this djs lane maxwell trial on the horizon if you are wexner are you nervous. Yes yes i think. There's somebody had commented probably paraphrasing it not quite accurately but he wishes he basically yet one would wish that they weren't around the basically that they had faded out in the sunset When this trial comes up because there's just there's a whole lot here that apparently a whole lot more that may be kind of unveiled during the trial. Well we'll be watching closely and we'll be covering on beyond reasonable doubt. 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