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Rusia toma la delantera en el rodaje cinematogrfico espacial.

Francoinformador

05:13 min | 2 weeks ago

Rusia toma la delantera en el rodaje cinematogrfico espacial.

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Help, I'm in Love with My Best Friend

Pretty Basic with Alisha Marie and Remi Cruz

52:09 min | 3 weeks ago

Help, I'm in Love with My Best Friend

"The rambles this episode of pretty basic is brought to you by door dash use code pretty for twenty five percents off your order of fifty dollars or more. Hi guys welcome back to pretty basic. I am a little nervous about spilling this coffee on this couch. I'm not gonna lie. It's okay if you do. we have remover. it's okay. I forgot your here. Yeah you can watch my favorite and was on products video and you can use. Language isn't going. That i already bought because yes yes have used yet yes. It's so good. I'm so excited to be sitting here in studio our second episode here. Just you and i know what's funny is. After the episode went up. It reminded me of when we first launched the podcast like i was reading the comments. I it was so cool to be able to actually have a place where we can say comment below people's thoughts on the episodes or even how funny parts to us was that funny and then hearing people laugh about like it's been so cool seeing your guys's responses obviously to everything and we're so happy that you're loving these video foreign podcast as well and if you're still listening on spotify or apple cake to what well today. I'm very excited. Because i've been begging one of these episodes for so so long and we finally set up an email. Where if you ever have any sort of questions if you've got sir a concern. Yeah if something is going on your life and you need some advice from people who might not be the most qualified to give advice. Let us know what's the you can email. Hello a pretty basic dot com and we will read your questions or comments or concerns. Give you some unsolicited advice. Oh amazing plus big shout out. Big shoutout to my sister ashley and other roommate taryn rene. They have podcast called unsolicited advice. Where basically do this format where people send in letters and stuff so we are copying them and you know what we may do another episode like this way. Go subscribe ign really excited okay. Let's get into it. I think we should. I think the whole point of this is a lot of people look to us as big sisters or the test for advice and sometimes i'm nervous to give advice because i don't wanna the wrong thing. I think that we should tell everyone to take our advice at the grain of salt. And if you know you take our advice though and it works out for you in a great way in a horrible way let us know is it works out great us and if it doesn't work out it was actually you got it from an unsolicited vice versa episode. We obviously had to come glam. We'd just sit very uncomfortably on these couches. Also were i wore address. I did too. I was very aware that. I probably have worn shorts underneath my dress so i was very much like. Don't move otherwise literally see everything. I did wear shorts. But i have chunky legs and have short chunky legs and i have little legs so like trying to not move the entire time. Also because i just don't know how to cross my legs so now. I get to sit like this today. So we're just and you know what this is. Actually this is how we to always record our episodes. Oh absolutely just make direct contact sitting on opposite sides of couches and just look at each other and fall in love boyfriend. I think we need to tackle that in a later episode me do. I always like to brag that. I'm a great third wheel. Yeah you can just lay on the couch and cal come here and we can be like so what. What can we do better. Did you hear that we're doing one tomorrow i did. I may or may not have submitted if you question. I haven't heard any yet. Okay can you give us a little taste. Maybe just one. Yeah i was just thinking back to your first main outing as a couple. My first time meeting him on a red carpet. And i remember purposely like kind of being like. I'm gonna stare him the whole time. He walks down this long carpet. Do you think he noticed did you. Did you like make eye contact. Like oh nice to meet you like i remember. Msci lets you love being bitchy to new people. I don't understand what's funny is like. It's it's just guys at my friend's sister specifically are dating. But why why do we feel the need to be mean. Because i get protective and i know that. That's that's cute. I'm just like are you using her to get to a spiderman premier. Were you planning on even going on another date with her. We that's sweet. Because i love goggles on so i'm not going to be able to see so that is that's it didn't look like the love goggles. While you were strutting your stuff on the red carpet. He was walking behind so he wasn't in the way was iconic. We'll give me a taste. What was the question. So how you know when you're first dates remmy invited you to a spiderman premier. You initially had to work where you willing to get fired to go to this premier. 'cause i think he was i think so too. I really do think. Go watch the truth of drink coming out. I don't know we'll see maybe in a couple of weeks go check. Maybe our truth drink. That never saw the light of day. I know i forgot about that. Yeah when are we going to do our to drink. You know even tweeted about doing a truth or drink with someone all the comments were basically not before you remedy one. And i understand that i get it. I get it. It's been almost a year. I think honestly took me months to recover of the fact that we filmed a whole one and then the audio isn't working so we got drunk for nothing and it was a great time. Oh my god that night. We were doing karaoke. Remember yes and my blog went up the next day. And it got copyrighted. Were such goods. We are best singers clearly. They thought we were lady gaga. Youtube was like lady gaga. This is copyrighted. You can't upload this because you're so good and fix it. We don't have a reason why we've never done the to drink. No we don't that's coming. I now i feel pressure has to be so good. No i know. I think that's why we've gotten scared to do it. That's our problem we need to do it. It'll be amazing because we're a great time. We're also there are so many comments about people saying how they love seeing our dynamic. Do you remember when we first started the podcast Everyone hated us together as friends. Same thank you for triggering my trauma. Yes yes yes yes no problem it made me realize how if we came out with video in the beginning people probably would have been able to see our dynamic and that's on us that is on us for not being smart business. What this should is expensive and we saved money. We did at the cost of our friendship. We actually at the cost of you coming i. let's move on because my traumas triggered again. Okay well how've you been. I've been great. The only thing is that last night. I was so lucky and fortunate to have been able to fill in for miss lordy. I y on wild tunein just gerbera extraordinary nine. He said he didn't like that. So before i went i was like i need to be on. He has a normal nine to five. So i had to go late to go record and i was like i gotta be on. I drink cups of tea. Sure half an energy drink. Up 'em bitch. I was up till three thirty. Am in my bed this running and so now. I'm extremely tired. Please go send some love over on the wild nine episode. Because i don't know if. I did a good job i talked about kinky and daisy the tire of but i had a wonderful time. Everybody was probably like oh. He did it a few times. Say they're either gonna love this on either way i'm here. What in your misery ashton. They're going to love it. Thank you so much. Please go send some love. Because i am a little more right now. Sound effects of like burn. We're looking at you. Go wash that episode and comment. Misery ash needs to host again case. I will force you to thank you. Want gerbera dooby shucked whole. Oh yeah exactly a- pressures. I felt the pressure. He also came for you a little bit. Of course he he did say he listened to our first episode and he was a little upset because we did talk about our dream guests in the studio. Oh you didn't mention them so you can address the beef now. I'm sure he'll be watching. Let them know why. I did stick up for you i did. I know you stick up for me and this probably won't help but i stand by what i said hillary duff i'll till nine there so close but hillary duff is barely barely over. I don't agree with that. I think we're all equal. And i did say that it's just because you know we're such good friends. It goes without saying it's implied without needing to. Obviously they were my first dream gas but we've already heard he had them exactly so my next dream guess clearly is most hillary hillary side no actually saw her the other day and i looked at her. And i said you didn't tell her to come pretty basic. I'm kidding i did obviously. But yeah what was she wearing. What was she doing. She was at the gym. How is that creepy creepy. Oh my gosh she's never gonna wanna come. No she's a healthy queenie. Loves working out. we love that. That's great for her ashley. Wow that's really fucking. That's like the one person i'd wanna see. I know well. how have you been. Oh i've been pretty good. I feel like this week completely flew by. There's been a lot of parallel apparel stuff. The restock is tomorrow so we've been trying to get so much done with that. I feel like. I've been uploading so many logs lately and i even talked about this on my blog channel. How i don't know what clicked. I don't know if i've just allowed myself to let go a little bit. Because i've been so busy with other things i noticed my blogs we're starting to go on the back burner like really bad. You know this was a few months ago. And i finally said you know what i've always had my blogs be in a day sequence. I wake up good morning and get my coffee. Go to bed. Like that's log. And i finally just said you know what i'm gonna film random shit. Put it together and make these logs because it's better than not uploading. Tell me why. I haven't done that sooner. Not only is everyone loving it. Everyone's like wow. You actually seem happy. And because i don't have the pressure like something also. I don't know if you noticed because obviously you watch every single vagas mind because he missed me so much like her mere bitch here for the premiere. I watch every time. I even got rid of the specific date that the video was. And i know. I have always loved when people do that. And blogs but the pressure of getting comments of people saying this is so old blah blah blah like just affects me and gets me so i finally started putting the month of july two thousand twenty one. 'cause i still want to be able to look back one day and easily see what day that was or what time in my life. That was ten years you know when it switches days it just goes another day. I like that. I actually did have logged recently to and i know you watched it because you watch. I love her blogs. I'm not kidding you actually yes. I do. Think you not every single one i. I can't lie sorry recently in a blog. I talked about how i also been doing. Just like the highlights of every day just because most of our lives is just mundane shit. Which is normal in. it's fine. I always want to show the lives kind of mundane. Oh yeah i mean. Sometimes i like to really focus on the monday and stuff so i just did wagner laundry and cleaning the kitchen but if you you know what you're if you watch yes otherwise i love the highlights like showing the fun things and people seem to resonate with it too. I also feel like since we've been doing it for so long. I don't want my viewers to ever feel like they know what to expect too much like. It's the same exact dog for years you know. So for instance. I didn't bring my camera today. 'cause i was like oh i just recently showed the studio and maybe the next of like won't show that them on their toes. You never know what to expect. Oh my god okay. Remember i told you what my period two weeks. After i had it. Yeah i feel. I feel it coming and i realize it's the spirit of lactone that because i looked it up and apparently when you're on a high dose of that it like one makes you spot like no other to it also like makes your boobs all sensitive and shit and i like why do i spill speier lactone. It's we're acting beyond it and my endocrinologist put me on it. So it's actually doing like a few different things and then also for the mild. 'cause i tried met and i blew up like a balloon. I'm not kidding. It hurts so bad i was so bloated like i was like this is not good so then switched and got on this and i was like. Oh that's perfect dermatologist. Was recommending it to me but i was kind of if about it. Let's just do it anyways. Long story short. My boobs are sore. My periods feels like it's coming down. What the hell do i do. I hate how there's always side effects every birth canal everything. It's so crazy. And then yesterday. I was like what the hell are even tweeted. And how do you deal with. Young people said they were but they're also on birth control to help combat like all the spotting any regular am i crazy of always been regular why period two weeks ago. Now i feel like it's coming again. Like what the fox so anyways. That's that was me this week. Uk i'm okay and then yesterday i was just down and not motivated and feeling blah and i was like that's not fine. It just happens in life. It's okay we've been great. Say it's okay. it's okay it's okay. It's okay it's normal. Oh my god the was so snacky. And then i was craving pasta so we went and got pasta. So good if you're ever. La you have to go to a stereo buca. So i do love stereo good. I like it better than any. I've never had john vinnie's. I think you would like it. Better than a mini. i think so too. It's more authentic well on that note today. I'm very excited to get into our topic. That actually you talking about birth control. We do have a question that kind of leads into that. But i've been begging to do this episode for so so long we are doing hashtag. Ask if you have any sort of predicaments that you're in question that you may have that you just want some advice on. We are here to give you advice. Good advice we're not sure but we will give you some honest answers. You are free to take it re to not and if you have any sort of questions and things you wanna ask us maybe appear on a later episode you can email us at hello at pretty basic dot com. It'll be linked the description. And let's get into it shall we. I'm living my childhood dream because this reminds me of the amanda show and she would read letters. Only god. you're talking about. I love that pretty basic dinner. Check shampoo check morning. Coffee check check. Check get everything you need whenever you need it with. Jordache jordache connects you with restaurants. You'll love right now and right to your door. 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They're one hundred percent cotton and they're so buttery and just so comfortable to wear also if you are looking for a backpack maybe you're going back to school. They have so many backpacks including ties leprince and so much more also. Did i mention hassle. Free returns on clothing. Yes please pure vida look good and do good to get twenty percent off pure vida apparel text basic two three eight eight one seven. That's basic two three eight one seven to get twenty percents off apparel up here. Vida terms apply available at pure evita bracelets dot com slash terms text basic two three eight eight one seven. Okay first letter dear remmy and alicia first of all. hi hey i want to stay a nominee. That was so. Amanda bines of you. That's what she would do right. I wanna stay anonymous. Because i'm slightly embarrassed about my dreams and goals. I want to achieve. Ll i am fourteen years old. And i'm from hong kong china. I used to watch school leash law as a five year old. And i rediscovered your guys channels and quarantine and stan ever since. Oh my god that's crazy. So here's my problem. I wanna be a popstar. I want to go to create and train as a cake. Pop idol then succeed and debut and only all however the chance of getting and doing is really slim although i think i can do it because i will work hard to achieve my goals. I still have other things bothering me. For example i am a national team. Rhythmic gymnast and it would be insane to drop the spot just to go to korea for a couple of months and get disqualified. Also if i do make to create and they don't choose me to debut i have nothing to fall back on and what if i did debut but k pop will be over by the time i debut. Everything is out of my control and i hate that. I'm not sure if. I should risk this or just grounded once again. Thank you so much for all the mental support you guys have given me. Whenever i'm sad. I listen to pretty basic and make me smile xbox anonymous. Ps i'm any aggressive type three wing to if you're wondering what a cutie. Oh my god you to go. I i mean i think we need to hash this out together. That's a really tough predicament. One thing that stood out to me and this was how she said at the very everything is out of my control. And i hate that and i actually think that's something to really focus on because wanting control a something so me where i'm like. Oh my god. I want to have control of the situation. And that's kind of just life to not have control over things so i think it will actually be easier to kind of come to a conclusion for yourself when you let go of feeling like i have to control this. Oh my god. What's the outcome gonna be relaxing join. How fun like you're fourteen years old like you have the world at your fingertips you have so much time in your life and you can do it all and i know it sounds scary to drop something and be cape star. Maybe you've said that to friends or family and they laugh or make a comment and honestly go for your dreams. That's my advice with that or at least start training or doing things to see. If you like it you know. I thought i wanted to do acting and then i took an acting class and quickly realized i don't want do acting like i. You know maybe a little bit decent atta in some situations however that's not my calling and that changed everything for me and i think if if there's a way you can do some dance classes i know you're already doing gymnastics but just to kind of get you in the way before dropping everything and buying a plane ticket and going to korea and just seeing. If that's something you really really still wanna do. I feel like. I'm going to be very realistic. Being a k pop. Trainy is balking insane. Have you heard or like watched. I've heard a little bit. And yes i think it's insane. It's gonna be really really really hard. I of course hope that it works out for you. I do think. I'm a big fan of pros and cons lasts so i think the unions sit down again. You're fourteen or so so young also. I think it's really cool that you have all these aspirations at such a young age. But i do think you need to sit down. Also talked to your parents. Talk to sibling. Someone older in your life who has had a little bit more life experiences. They can build a bit more realistic with you too. I think really weigh all your options and figure out whatever outcome it may happen and whatever route that you do choose. You have to be ready for the worst outcome from that. You know if you do go become a trainee and you don't have anything to fall back on. You have to think about okay. Well what am i going to do. Am i going to go back home. I going to go back to school. I'm gonna do whatever if you're okay with that. Then i think hell yeah go do it. That's amazing but also. I do think that popstars are if you do make it completely overworked. And they seem so tired. And it's just like that's amazing. It's going to be so cool but also butterflies. Yeah exactly. I think another interesting thing too is. I know it's. It's not like this but the way that you kinda presented it reminded me of old. La hollywood where you had to move from louisiana and come to la and do these shows and and the way that the space is changing so much here like maybe you'll still be doing something with dancing performing that you love but maybe it's not the road you think it's going to be and i think that's something that's really interesting because the space is changing so much and who knows maybe even the k pop industry will slightly change and you don't have to do it the traditional way. That is happening right now reading this. I think you're very self aware and you're you know pretty much all the outcomes already. I think it's just making sure that you yourself are emotionally prepared for whatever it is that you choose but i really do think it'd be cool to go become a train and know the work that you're signing up for but also you're really great. It already obviously rhythmic gymnastics. It can change like in a year like take some classes. Do whatever you need to do and then in a year you may be like. Wow i'm so glad i didn't do that but you might as well try like your fourteen. You have so much time at so young. But i do agree like the k pop industry. It's so much like it's so the block pink documentary. No i really should janney in lisa. I think we're training together like six years six years just before they even got put in the group. Wow not just the start of the group retreating since they were full. I with that in mind. Like i see why you have pressure because you're like oh my god i'm fourteen and even though we're like oh that's so young i feel like in your head you're probably thinking i'm so behind totally well. I'm excited to hear what you do. You sound very talented regardless so keep us updated. Okay dear remain alicia. So this guy. I've been friends with since kindergarten. We are both twenty four now. Just recently. Got out of a serious five year relationship. I've always loved his company and kind of seen him as a bro. Once i found out through social media he was no longer in a relationship. I was thinking more of him so many little things reminded me of him. We weren't as close starting college and all student him being in a relationship. I kept my distance but we would still run into each other which happy birthday merry christmas etc. That was the extent of our conversation a few months after he got out of his relationship. He rented texted me that he wanted to take me out on a day. At the time. I was newly talking to someone else long distance but wasn't really feeling great about it. I really wanted to catch up with him. So i told him yes and my plan was just to tell him about the other guy. I was talking to and just figure my thoughts out but then a few hours before meeting up. He texted me saying he doesn't wanna lose a friend in admires me too much to ruin it. He said he didn't have the best intentions when he asked to meet up and still feeling sad he would just rather hold off and said maybe in the future we can hopefully meet up. He just started medical school in another state. And i cannot stop thinking about him but i've also never really had a true relationships. I don't think. I want to long distance on top of that. I'm friends the few guy friends who i hang out with and somewhat have a little bit of history with t- i've never had a relationship before and people say i'm too picky all the time but with him it feels right in my head about what should i do. Ooh this is honestly. I had a few random blocks like throughout this entire thing wine. I feel like that's such a dude thing to do to like like your chilin your mind in your own business and then he like hits you up and like detours you and you're like well. I never thought of you that way. But now i'm really thinking about you. Now i'm in my head. Then he like drops it which i respect him for saying my intentions were basically just to hook up and i don't to lose the friendship but now he's like okay piece by and now you're like wait. I'm still down this detour. And now i'm like what the hell i was doing. So fine like. I feel your pain on that. I think for for females more so dating and love is so much more mental the amount of fake relationships. I've i've literally in my head. Where i think i'm dating someone and i act as if i know them and i'm like they've given. I don't know anything about them with alan. Hey yeah. I don't know if it's just a me thing a girl thing a guy thing but i feel like guys are so much more. Just focus on one thing at a time like he was just like to hook someone. I'm going to hit her up. Where like now. You're thinking of him in a relationship and you're like we're so good together. We soulmates. It's hard because in reality even though you were friends you haven't had that romantic relationship yet so you don't even know if you are soulmates. But why do girls do that. I feel your pain. That's basically all. I'm saying so i don't know i will say i think the best thing you can do is just keep doing what you're doing. You know seeing other people dating other people like keep that in mind too if he was so wishy washy being like. Let's do this. Let's not like he's propaganda that again in the future and you don't want to be your beck and call for him. No i know. I don't know why but i'm my brain and my god is like you should go for it. I don't know how we may. Maybe they are soulmates. And she's going to be like remmy. We're married now. I don't know. I just feel like she should go. I feel like you should have a conversation with him and then that can help you either move on. I don't like how now you're you're going to look. Well what if you know. No exactly that's if you've also never had a relationship before. I will say don't think that this is the only chance you're gonna get like your. I'm talking to the girl. This isn't the only chance she's going to get. I think that's important for her to realize too. I think i agree again with pros and cons list. I think you should wear your options. But you're comfortable with someone. It's so easy. It's so easy. I thought i do respect him for at least being honest intentions were and that means he at some point sat down with himself and was like you know what not the best idea. I don't think you should like absolutely jump in with relationship already. I think also thinking is he my soul already like i do that often a lot. I feel like that is a bad way of thinking because that gets you way more invested than you need to be. I think just think. Could this be a fun time. If you're down for a fun time figure out what you want. I also are you guys even like friends friends like i feel like a lot of people like i. Don't wanna ruin the relationship. But i'm like okay but like are you actually like close friends. Were you genuinely. Don't wanna ruin that. That's true also if you're only saying like happy birthday merry christmas up like maybe if you're willing to take a chance and like i think right now he's saying never mind so now she's stuck in this situation where she's like wall shoot. Oh now she wants to get. You can't have. Everyone wants what they can't have honestly guys are a little smarter than we think. This also could have been him like like now like you're obsessed with it. I don't think so. I think he's i think guys are not that smart to be that manipulative. Maybe like some. But most i i mean he sounds like a decent guy. I am glad he kind of stopped things. But i get now. You're just like well. I'm having dreams about him now. We're married in my head and now he can't stop thinking about him. If it were me. I would all my feelings out there personally. I think a combo needs to happen. If i get rejected. Who care even being like. Hey like where did that. Come from you know what i mean like. It doesn't have to be like. Hey i wanna be your soulmate or like hey like what are we blah blah because obviously can just be a lot. I feel like it's so fun to be like. Hey before we can continue being needed to kind of like where did that come from just such. He doesn't wanna do long distance. I do understand that as well. Yeah taking langley. You don't have to worry. Is your soul mate or not. Just worry the best way to have that kind of awkward conversation is planned to be the one asking all the questions so then that way. You're not sitting there like. Oh well i have feelings for you just be like. Hey where did that come from. If felt kinda random. So i was just trying to get in your head. That's the best way to be not in an awkward situation is realizing the power with the questions you ask then. He didn't have time to ask you questions. That's a really good point so right some rain and they can be light. You know like. Tell me where that came from. That's so it's so chill. It doesn't mean you're obsessed with them. You don't need to be like aggressive. You don't need to be like hi. Can we sit down and talk about our feelings and talk. And then i guarantee he's going to be all about unanimous. This is fucking game. Sorry notes true. It's true figure out what you on girl and get after it. If you don't long distance then that makes the choice easy for you. But i feel like you're very inbetween personally for me. I'd go after it just to figure it out. Ask some questions. Keep asking questions keeping curious. You are in the driver's seat lady. Yeah okay lady next one. I know you didn't have a name. So i don't know what's okay next one. I recently went through a break-up anna friendship break up at the same time. Oh no hard my car. I also move states in the midst of the pandemic. So i haven't had a chance to make many friends. My circle literally only consisted of my now ex boyfriend and my ex best friend. So it's literally just me now. I'm trying to find the positives. But a bitch has had her days where she feel so defeated. Please help me find that. Enter bad bitch. That knows she don't need no man or toxic fran. Ps love you guys so much. That's so hard poor girl so you had a friendship break-up a boyfriend break-up and then you moved and now you don't really know anyone where you are. I think first of all get on bumblebee f. I think that's a great way to find. I have friends who've met friends that way. Same it seems like a great place. Also i think just a little advice moving forward make sure that your circle is not only whoever you're dating you're one best friend. Yeah i think it's important to obviously. And i understand circumstances maybe you just had moved to that new place and then that but i think the fact that i'm saying i think that it's important to obviously have a larger than just to immediate people. Yeah i think that's one of the downsides to doing that and even though you wanna hang out with your boyfriend twenty four seven like that you just have to factor that in but obviously you can't go back so i think just putting yourself out there and making new friends. I'm not kidding. Like one of my favorite things about breakups whether it's a friendship or romantic one. Is you get this sense of confidence realizing that your life is still going on like you thought your life was over on everything. Like how will i ever be happy again and data and then slowly but surely it does definitely take time. So i think that's the biggest thing but slowly but surely you realize oh. I didn't need them in my life. I really thought i did. I thought i couldn't be a human without them. I thought couldn't be my own person and now's the time to start fresh. Be like you know what. What can i learn from the last two. Obviously there's two sides to every story you know it's so good to have that self reflection time but also realize that you can't change it. Let's move on make new friends and you would rather have this time. You're gonna look back in your life and be so grateful for because you're going to be like wow i got to know my true self. I grew so much. I learned that. I actually don't like going bowling and that's all we ever would do all the time and i hate that. I remember doing it again or whatever it is and i think that's a really special time that you're in right now. It's really hard but try to see the positives like you already are. I totally agree. We sound like broken records on this podcast because we say the same thing but we've learned from true personal experience that i'm sure you're going to have this moment where it's gonna come to you when you're all alone. You're like super sad about everything the happen which obviously totally understood. You're gonna have this moment where you come to this epiphany and you're like oh my gosh. I'm okay yes i've gone here by myself. I'm going to be fine. You've already endured some amount of time without the expert without the ex best friend. You've made it. You're gonna be okay. People come into your life to teach you a lesson. Think about the lessons that you learned from these and think about those great times. Think about the things that you didn't like about them. Think about that in the future when you meet new friends when you start dating around attributes that you don't want a future partner your friend whatever it is and just really start dating yourself and have fun with your cell. It's so much harder to do than it sounds. But i think you're gonna be super super happy also like if not bumble bee social media for answers so much fun. Oh my god yeah instagram. Checkout people in your area in a not creepy way. People that have similar interests love to workout classes. Something out classes. I just i went to a dentist appointment and the reception girl. I like hit it off with and we were talking for such a long time. And i literally i would hang out with you. Go get your teeth cleaned joking. You never know you might mean a new best next one dear amelie shop. I'm twenty two and love listening to the pod. Thanks girl especially the big sister chat style ones lately. Thank you so much. I think a great topic for you guys where you reach. Such a large audience of young women would be. Std's not sure about you guys but growing up. I was taught how to avoid them. But not what to do if you caught one. There's a lot of shame. Fear and stigma around. Std's come from a lot of misinformation totally agreed. Two years ago i had my own experience with. Sat that i thought was incredibly unlucky. Come to find out. It is incredibly common and people. Just don't talk about it. I struggled for awhile to love myself again and went through a lot of therapy. I don't think would have taken it so hard. If there was less stigma and fear around it which comes from work conversation. I've been working with a doctor who specializes in women's reproductive health for the past year. And i've learned so much. I would love to share my story with you and honestly and some advice to hopefully share with your listeners. So young women and men don't feel alone as i did. Thanks again for being such a great platform for laughs advice and not being afraid to be vulnerable. Love the pod and all your kids. That was so nice. Thank you so much. I completely agree. A few years ago actually did a campaign with the american sexual health association and it was called. Yes means test and i will be fully honest. I when i got the deal. I was really excited because it is something that i feel passionately about and at the time i was casually dating casually hooking up and it's something that obviously i think that we need to be aware of and i wanted to spread and i was but at the same time i was a little hesitant because it is something that people don't speak out about a bunch from the creator standpoint. You're like oh i'm nervous. That stigmas there. So you're like nervous. But you're like what i want to talk about this. I don't know how people accept it. And i also hate that. Yeah i will say. It was super empowering and the response was so great and that honestly has stuck with me. The entire time whole point of the campaign was to encourage people to get tested after having sex but also sharing the idea that if you do has positive for any sort of std it's okay. It's way more common than you think. Oh my god this girl said and there's so many different kinds. So i think the stigma you know people are like. Oh my god. they're slot. There are horrible blah blah and. I'm like fuck that the reason why this needs to be talked about more because people don't know what to do. I think the first thing that needs to go away the judgment around and the stigma. It's so easy to catch it so like more common. I have so many friends who have struggled with different forms of kinds. And i think that's like there shouldn't be judgment around it and i think the number one way to honestly start that whole process is just by talking about more and realizing like oh. I don't need to be embarrassed by this or it's one of those things to where it doesn't matter how you got it if you have it now. You're like well now. I can't focus on. I shouldn't have slept with them. Or i also can't like make someone feel bad about like no. That's their own personal sex life. Like let them do whatever they want to do. Not what do i do too now. We're here and what are we talk. This what do i do. What can i do. I am a pig fan of researching shit like literally. I'm so thankful that now. There's a lot of youtube videos out. There of people talking about things obviously like finding a guy now who you love and trust is very very important like no one should ever make you feel weird about that. I agree. I think also i feel like i don't really have much advice to give other than just talk about it with people. You try research it like. Don't you shouldn't feel ashamed. I think that's my. I mean being with this one. I also am very aware that i'm not a doctor. Know actual advice about it. I can give but we'll definitely have some things linked in the description and in the show notes all of that because safe sex is a thing i know. It's very cliche and no one wants to hear about it. But it's very important like it's very very important and there's some people who now they have a disease that's with them forever. And i'm so glad those people are speaking up about things now but i can't ignore it and i hate hate hate how there are so many people who think ignorance is bliss when it comes to this stuff. Because it's not you need to know what you're doing especially if you're super young and you're exploring all of that like holy shit. There's so much not not just getting pregnant. All of the health and safety around all of it is huge so i talked to someone who tries to look it up. Research find video. I think what makes me really sad is that. She's struggled to love herself again. As she said after she found out that she tested positive for whatever oecd it may be and she ended going therapy for it. And i think that it's not something to be shamed. It's i keep saying it's super common but also you had no control over that situation if the person that you audit from new and didn't tell you that's really fucked up but maybe didn't know in that goes into the importance of getting tested regularly. I think after every person that you sleep with you should get tested whether you use protection or not just to be safe. There's also other forms of contraception obviously not for std's but birth control things like that. So i think it's just important save sex great sex but you know you're not always the best happened exactly. No one and i know that. And i get it. I think there's so much shame around it when there shouldn't be at all it's nothing we can control so like. Why are we and a big deal. Yeah i think that's the main thing with the story is shame can have such a toxic hold on you that last year lifetime if you let it and i think there's nothing wrong with you. There's no difference or anything about you like literally. It's not like you change or there's something different or your flawed or your dirty. Our anything like that and i know it's so hard to like actually believe that than just telling yourself but i hope you really hear that when like we don't see you any differently and no one else should either like. There's so many things that are out of our control. And yeah i think focusing on that. I'm so glad you're to therapy about it milano and i think also at one point in my life i think that had i had inclination that maybe something might be going on. I would have been scared to go to the doctor which i understand. It is scary thing but as we said it's something that is most likely going to stay with you for a period of time. Sometimes you your life depending on what it is. So it's better to nip it in the bud. Now get the help that you need. most are treatable easy untreatable. Yes i have a friend that just recently was diagnosed with one and it's going to go away in a few months but she got right on it really quickly and that's all that it took and again no shame. 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And i would love to have a change of scenery it be independent and explore. How do i explain this to my mom. She thinks i want to go. Because i want to leave her any advice. Oh my gosh. that's really hard. That's hard bringing it back to square one. I go to the college that you truly believe is best for you and your career and your life and then of course obviously these other factors do come into play. Your culture has a huge play in this to of wanting to be close to your parents and supporting them. And i think i think the number one thing is just having an open conversation with her and don't have it be screaming or yelling match because nothing will actually go through like whenever anytime at trying to have a serious conversation with someone. I feel like you have to kind of that to them and say hey this is something really near and dear to my heart and i hope you hear me when i talk. Maybe even write a letter. So that way everything's written before i'd conversations get fumbled into it and it's getting off topic instead i think sitting down and saying hey this is where i truly truly want to be and also you know you're wanting independence and i think that is something that's so so important. I stayed pretty close to home work community college. And then i didn't move out. I was probably nineteen or twenty. And i remember thinking that it was so old and honestly i actually loved my situation. I don't think you need to have any shame for thinking on eighteen. Now now i have to get out of the house. That's not it at all. Really just do what's best for you. If you think that both colleges would be great for you then they really just try to focus on the college. That's best for you and if it is the close one great if it's the far one have that conversation either way. Honestly have that conversation with your mom and say okay. I'm really trying to independence and have a change of scenery you know. I'm not going to be around as much. I'm still here for you. i still love you. I know i'm getting older. Because i'm resonating more than i am the daughter which i totally understand the predicament that you are in. I think when. I hear this. I think that your mom is scared that she's losing. Yeah and that's you know. That goes without saying i totally understand where she's coming from and i've done this a lot with my mom growing up and i'm sorry i when i wanted to do things i wanted to grow up like takes. I'm adult. I don't wanna do this. I don't wanna do that. My mom always wanted to support me and do whatever is best for me. And i'm sure your mom wants the same for you. I think her own personal feelings just getting in the way which she's human and it's totally normal. If you can basically take your mom to the school that you wanna go to show her physically this wanna here. So i mean women are so visual tuba moms. I feel like anytime. i show my mom something. She'll be like oh no. I can picture you here. And she loves that. yeah. I think that taking her. They're showing her explaining. Like oh well. I would love to study in this school. This is where i'd be doing like my study hall. Whatever it is and maybe she'll understand a little bit more and see the excitement that you have for the school. And i think maybe it could take her back to when she was your age and she was going through a similar time in her life or she also was kind of split between like her parents and school. Whatever it may be. Maybe he'll be able to understand you a little bit more but regardless. I do think that you should do what's best for you. And hopefully your parents will understand. And i also think it is important to not just pick a school. That's the furthest from your family. I think it really is important to find a school. That like you love that you want to go to because you can still have that independence that you want to a closer to your family. I think that's something that sometimes distance doesn't change anything. Does that make sense. Like i went to the school. That was farther from my family. Because i wanted to get farther away. Granted it was thirty minutes versus the twenty minute school but it was. There are a lot of things i was eighteen. I wanted to be independent. I wanna do my own thing. I want to go off my own. I went to the school and i was farther which was significantly more expensive about twice the amount of tuition dorm. Everything that i had to pay for in the end and i came home every weekend every weekend coming home. You're not paying to come home every weekend to this day. They still like to make fun of me. But i really think figure out why it is that you wanna to go farther away because you do truly love love love the school or you just want to be away from your family because you can still be five minutes away and have your own independent. I feel like find that independence for you and yeah. There are definitely pros to being close to home. You can do your laundry you can have home cooked meals. Yeah but i think having that conversation with her and really doing some self-reflection for yourself of why he want to go in which haji wanna go to. If you can't basically travel there nothing works better than a powerpoint presentation we love at your heart and soul into it also see first loggers there and see if you can see from their perspective. What those schools like. Oh that's a good. Yeah that's a really good idea last night at least oh perfect period struggles high love this. This is a question for any pillow. So i'm sixteen. And i've struggled with my period forever and having gotten it for over a year. I went to the doctor like two weeks ago and got my blood drawn. I don't know what's next. I know you had some similar experiences. And i would honestly appreciate if you could walk me through. What actually happened like when you had to go to more specialized doctors what they did to help. Honestly the only person i've ever heard openly talked about it. So i'm really curious to hear your thoughts and experience before dude it on my own. Love you honestly. This is another thing that i i'm surprised that people don't talk about because it is a normal bodily function and nothing to be shameful. I'm an open book here for you. So i personally. I think we've talked about this before. But i started my period in sixth grade. And when you start initially it is irregular cracked right off the bat for the first few years isn't it when you first start period. I think mine was pretty rare. Do people start your automatically regular. Oh so. I haven't been normal ever le. I thought i was normal in that regard. So i've always been super irregular and i think it was when i was about sixteen or so and it became very irregular. I was only getting about once every nine months which pretty much equivalent to like a year or so. My mom took me to the doctor at sixteen. And i talked to them and i let them know what was going on. They run my blood. I think they gave me the statistic of forty percent of women have irregular period Fact check me on that. I'm pretty sure it's that high though. So they said you know what. It's super normal. you're sixteen. I wasn't sexually active at the time. I didn't become sexually active for a very long time after that. So they kind of just like you can be put on birth control right now you want to regulate it which you have that option of course if you have your parents consent if you're under eighteen or depending where you live if you want to regulate it you totally can i decided honestly. I didn't want to be on birth control. Actually to be honest my mom decided for me. She was like. I don't wanna pompey with hormones. If you don't need to yet the doctor's not saying so. I do think also it's important to get at least a couple of doctors different perspectives. So i mean. I only went to one at the time. I kind of wish i had seen too. I just didn't know at the time and sixteen. It's it's fine and cool to see two people so yeah i think it just varies. Based on the person i think gets doctors perspectives. If you and your parents are cool with it and you wanna have a regular period. You can go on birth control. I also think that beyond birth control for a very long time in your life also has negative is going to say. I think that's something that's also not talked about too much is like the negative side of you know medications in any way or a birth control because even though it's great you know obviously a great thing and we want to encourage people to have it it also if especially if it's the wrong one for you. I think my biggest advice in this situation is trust your gut. And don't just take whatever a doctor gives you. Because i've had plenty of instances like i said earlier where things didn't mix well with me and i wish i spoke up sooner being like my body does not like this. I need something else like you have that power like they're there to serve you and help you with your problems so i think just like have that power to be like. Hey i'm not feeling well on this and even if they kind of dumb it down and are like oh no you need to give it time. You can literally say like no this. I'm telling you something's wrong with my body like the amount of time that motivated me to go get something done. We're like someone was telling me something. And i was like no like i am not normal. I'm sure same with you. I had a birth control experience in quarantine where i was on birth control and it made me absolutely depressed. I was having mood swings. I was having brain fog and it just wasn't working out. I really like. I know. I everything in me. This is not right. it's not. It's not normal. Because i know what i'm not on birth control and not sh- it's not happening and i told the doctor and she laughed and was like. Oh you're just really stressed about code. And i was like girl ya i am. But it's not making me depressed having brain fog. I know that for sure. And then i went to another doctor a couple months and when i told her with doctor said she couldn't believe it she was like what doctor would say. I was like crime. Thank you obviously. You've got your blood work done. I think that's an amazing first. Step what they're going to do next is probably put you on a medication. And then they're going to want you on it for three to six months and then get more blood drawn to see the comparison between the two. Apparently my last appointment. I was supposed to have more blood drawn and i didn't. I didn't know i was like so have to wait for my ex period. Which is coming in. But i'm excited to see if this new medication is actually making a difference or not. It's so much time. I hate it. I hate how you have to wait like three months for anything to like. See if it works bushes all kind of part of it. Also i will say if you are looking for more of a holistic way like the amount of holistic things out there like food literally as medicine like the amount of things that help with all of that like i haven't dovan to heart into it but food really can like help and especially if you have. Ibs or something like that. There are things to stay away from and things to gravitate toward stuff like that's a very interesting perspective to if you want to take that route. Yeah i think that i immediately just go to birth control my head because that's what doctors have told me before but if you don't wanna take birth control of your parents are deterred away from the idea of birth control. I think whether you wanna do birth control or any sort of other maybe there's vitamins or supplements you can incorporate into your daily region again. Not a doctor but talk to your doctor and figure out what they think might be right for you and maybe there's way to regulate it so i called my endocrinologist about a week ago and i had said like. Oh my god. I'm having a regular period dying pregnant. Like what the heck is going on. Because i researched it and everything led to being pregnant. I was like. I know that's not true. Was like but is that happening anyways. She had said if at least nine of your periods and the year our regular. It's nothing to worry about. So you have wiggle room of three periods or so. Because i was like okay. That's good to know again relate but for me i was like i've never had this but it was interesting but again take it or leave it. We're not doctors. We will have things cited below but talk to a doctor also have other opinions on shit supplements like two years ago and not give me more anxiety. And i had no idea that could even be correlated. They're giving me way too much tharus. All and i was having heart palpitations. I thought it was dying. I literally thought. I was having a heart attack and then i went to an endocrinologist and she was like whoa like they misdiagnosed you. You need to get off of that and it was game changing so second. Opinions are amazing but with that get to email us at hello app. Pretty basic dot com. 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Bass Impact Ep. 4: Kenny Ken

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Bass Impact Ep. 4: Kenny Ken

"You've heard the music now. Here's the story from director frank marshall. Hbo's news documentary. The bg's how can you mend broken heart. Chronicles the highs and lows of brothers berry maurice and robin gibb and the evolution of the prolific career as the bg's through interviews and never before seen footage discover how they navigated the ever changing music industry and complex dynamics of family and fame. Watch it now on hbo and hbo. Max welcome back to the face. Impact podcast presented by suburban base and very excited this week. Old time legend of the scene alongside someone. I always enjoy it. So he's got a great story and Someone that i write to personally back in the day and we get. We're gonna chat about that. This is a special christmas edition. So merry christmas and let me waste time and introducing the infamous the famous. The legendary came is now. I've known this man for very long time. And i guess you must have started dj. -ing when i started my business kind of before suburban base really established and you one of those names on the flyer the i would always go out and rape to in oh and we became good gains and he would have right of the start can tell me you know early right. That's what listeners. Wanna hear early days for me was always working on london transvaal. Yeah i was working on the underground and decide while might come from bethnal. Green hackney and mom lights were sign. The aachen you accompanied one of these acid as paul is but the word essiet put me off the just what s it caught me off the kind of thing and then one day we used to raven at some some fisa cup people cover his of getting nine and we've got like the top sincere six steps back in the day. I think he was zero. Six zero six one in clubs anyway so one day. We was driving a like tony. Sicne can go free ecstasy tablets in my pocket so we take once we try one thousand la a na. Nah nah come on. Let's just do one. This is try at once. The guy on the bay. So we took one h while it's probably got to siphon williams flight or we go in this club yup the whole club wrought even the even the the club owner step might use local. Come every week getting for free so we show. We went down to london as driving. Dancing on tony misfly. One of these estimates I think now with is one and it was officials back church lane watch apple and i'm a through some corrugated iron and wooden shit into swear ass a might. It was just some sunny. I've never seen before the music. Everything just hit me. And from deragon converting it was just brilliant just a house news reports it was just breathing and should feel feeling and when that music is free and a little pill l. but Changes your life forever. Just being engaged. Next thing you know for me was the different nationalities. the different colors that was in that people white people in people because of different people. And if i was just raving under one roof and that's what attracted me to it because it was the music. Don't get me wrong. And yeah the junk sail but if you're sensible ways about the jokes i mean people right environment as well and Diverse if people in this place and people were so friendly and that and then from there we just kind every week we was looking for and it was very very special time. But i mean you oversee connected with music before that a big fan and was a raving club in like before experience for you before that i was more of a are supposed to knock of a lot of zero six inside fans jukes anyway. It was mostly like Arm be so disposed you know. I mean style. Reggae reggae shebeens. After hours clubs. And i got them. Reagan's the pau easier and east is all that and that was me that was on the by. I mean i have. I had dj before that it was ninety. One time ago austin the apply a A dog wanted him tweet. Index like the x. An attitude Mixer in the middle. And i wanted them and she says moore polly again. I wanna play the party but that was the only time a dj now and then. Yeah under full about dj. I was thinking about teaching. Say so we get yesterday. I've seen an and you're excited about as echo. What y- what point did you go. You know i want to do this. I wanna be out. Maybe ryan to be doing this or one day. I was a lot the music so much and off-the-wall opposite circus station an everyday Lunchtime is to go to market around the cool not about certain station. So black market records and the guy who used to work in a stanford his name was used to get would white leg was so my record collection started before actually rave record condition saw before she started the jane yet so i get older tunes and when i did not selection the tunes of what could be watching people like groove rider called cooks. Dj bones them free. The stuck in my head do not. I mean there was also another heritage is cool them to done if you don kevin byard. Yeah evident dangerous right one day instead. Dixon did beat. No twelve understood so much. You need to invest sell twelve under. I was not in anyway. Course ex and dinkum round has been writing not income round mass sunday morning and he started the whole bay. We'll just let mix and i was watching. I was watching everything he was doing. And then when at told you can not not not going to carry on carry. But when by list i was straight on them and i was trying to learn to make myself. And that's what i started to think politician of Out pretty quick. You're not. I mean you must. You must the comments out. Pretty quick iran. That talk like you're just getting into it next year. you're you're an older lineups. i'm seeing kenny. And everything and not. You know a big name in the same from very early. And i go what it was ice mike it my business so now the actual table running the pot is is to write that i just. My mom is needs to get in with that crowd. But because i wanted to. Jay is just the kind of not get in that kind of crowd. You know what. I mean ads so by the time. I sti- jane on you. Who was who you know. And let for instance crazy club story. I was one of the first tape womb the guide near residency and Junk from napa jones single knepper yet. I was decline of the first people that gave me a residency. And then just kicks from there. Really you know. I feel like let labyrinth was a big part of your story. You know when you think about i. So people really conical into in our member right in there and You know you can say like every tune in the second rewound labyrinth was was a big that story. in fact in fact leprince was the first place to residency. Yeah and then. I moved onto crazy club a story in that. Yeah actually i remember like religiously got to see you. I will in in islam and is very early. And andy was a very close friend of ours thain and he was very young and he i i would take him to someone early raves. I coming come with a sandy before he was. You know the gin that we know and and row playful who's ways hanging out with us and so it was like it was. Missile from suburban base. Ran moving shadow. Loners of light will with that camaraderie. Now rivalry will hang out. But i remember. We used to love about raven i will do we. Would you know be on the dance floor sweaty mess. Join your set and you would always come down off towards it was as in crisis. None of this superstar deejay. Nah you would always come down and right. Would you be me and grow. And you'd come in and you to wait the ravens correctly after in atlanta procedure standard procedure. You know because remember is the before. I was a dj. You could see al-also yet. So once i finished muffing on the decks is Randall come on all mikhael diver. Noel to s shaikh through offing raw. Already psoriatic. naff just right with the crowd. You not mean stayed until the end that was you know. I've always been a right. Bob about right now back then. Yeah you do cama right. I have for a long time setting up now before the even with even. Yeah even then. I've listened. I'll stop doing all kinds of drug. Anything right yeah. Stop doing years ago. We're all very wise. Yes exactly you know what i mean. I call myself a rival observer. I still go. i'll go there and like yeah okay. Stand up if us on club visit. I'm looking just going to here. I'm going to stand up to the dining data while the look back in the day on a young as the good size my greedy really good signs of saw much creativity during that time. You know when you think about the people that were in the crowd and and being inspired you'll dj sets and ice. I am brand or gachet. Everyone was this guy. And i'm jumping in the studio as three key labels that i just mentioned you know the banging stuff the become not who tracks the defined grandpa at the scene you know. And then the creativity come from from your side of the thanks that the jays yes sought been been a mainstay of backbone of the scene. You know it's like incredible times what we create what we're able to build and labels ebola was for me a few my life besides above them by s- ram we've been shadow reinforced. Lofthouse taylor. They were they were the main cause i v. Come late didn't it. Yeah yeah. I really run always soaks about so of reinforced moving shadow suburban by we ask great fondness that i was know. We always of li- Up that game depending on you know what the next release was one of them. But exactly what's love just love. Just not maybe shout at you. Boom of pla- loom ramic will at another bang on. It was. yeah it was. It was brilliant. Yeah and And you stay that is. Would you agree is the foundations for so much of urban. Uk music now. You know when you when you is it is foundation is the foundation that music your hair. Now what drew up. The i mean the some joe. Stop a lot. The guys following the american hypoxia. Not i mean yeah up when you're talking about carriage upset. Yeah grind on. Google jomo based grime stuff. Yeah yeah so come from member. We were sitting on atari computers designed in this couple of seconds of silence. You know exactly you run at run at whatever up you know but yeah way the backbone for the whole thing over it. Yeah absolutely you saw at a label. I don't know that was. Maybe can when mixing plane is this. Where does the the phrase mix them come from mixing brain candy cane. It was the that coin that because melissa mc moose it was moving okay. Yeah that makes me mix plan and ken expressed. Yes money things ways. Emc hip as classic absolutely classic and other clubs will are important to you as you know. We I mean i. I was like a breeding ground for the big You at the edge. In coventry it clicks a obviously a story are crazy was big bottom our buddy days as well. Yep now then you add Roasted term mills. Yep you know that that was when jungles. Just thank you for coming coming out of the office. Call guidance the jungle. That's it yeah. Yeah yeah. I always will roast. His you know the definitive jungle club. that was. Yeah yeah yeah. Roses way for me. I would say roast for me is where jungle lady took with equal Yeah because it was closed as it was caused as black music and produces will why i was my canoes. You know that was. That was certainly of influence on. You know if you if you consider where it comes from people trying to trace it back to house music and a skull as much Lineage to sound system culture really in know and yes. It's a regular year. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I was a lot the whole rave scene so much to house and techno and actually it has kind of evolved this the badge becoming more urban sound more was like lots of influence and and that those roots trace back to like sound system culture and that kind of influenced by everything. I think i think the music just like house music. There's no rules in house. Music is no rules in bastogne. Will you know like this could be influenced by anything. I mean might paul. It was the big red advice lines. you know. i mean the clear. The music was influenced by everything. Gowdy time when he done his first album. Hollywood different influences into it. it was experimentally. There's no rules yeah. Experiment was allowed to. Just you know not now for saying. This is why i sound light. We been making it. Sounds harry exactly shaping. Exactly yeah exactly exactly so with that said what's missing colored things because of all she. This is a special show. This is the christmas edition and hopefully own being sensible during lockdown. And they they the family the bobble wherever you know. This is a special shove. And i said you know. Let's have a listen to music with you can s listener cutler things. That were important to you either from your career or stuff. Us listening to and You you to call tiles and holidays are no straightaway and another important since we're gonna have a good chat about Or cry what one as first ones. This is a very early i mean to me. reggae lovers rock guess By a call malcolm no gesture and get lucky that little chat about it and what that meant you coming up you know this gene. How large data change. How would i thought when she human. I love you. Don't know no-one so can t tell me you know this is important. Track to you. I mean you'd have been a kid. This is this is this screen. In the half scarring. Tell me that that tearing there are separate will come around the weekend and my mom would be doing my aunt's here in the in the passage. Resuce your who stooge. Oh come passage in in the passage through his head and but that embarrassments be playing dominoes and the music and not just be putting on that choon there is one of the first tunes and offsides now back version one verse one tune and then you get number version of that choon Yes yeah you know. Kazan to stop the version of that would have had a different Maybe yes. I think it was big. You know you you you you don version of it overseas toasted on the might differ version and that record there is love it so much. Democracy scratched a lot. I'll the bad bad because you could get that to me is it was. I was so upset about best sticks because it reminds me the first time already starting to get into music as a music fan. Yeah i'm a lock as Tom and you cared about it so much that you you brought a yes. Yeah yeah you know. I mean so. That shooting day is one of the first things. I have a boat about might not be the first june. It was not in the ten. I this is. This is childhood memories for you. This is back to its again. But you can also had hattie's influenced your career you know you. Dj's lot you and it was. It was definitely a movement out of east london and i'm originally from stratford and then so many other shop and dance at high and that kind of the rcn that break beat style of music from east london and you can hear that kind of the influence of dont lovers. When when there was the jungle there was a produces back. They're not yet that para don's mazda linney from east london a main making jungle with direct direct influence. And i hope see more. They grew up in households. Like yourself where you know. This is late on a sunday often playing dominoes on the stove. This is our of memories and this is a hassle. We you know you. You grew up in east. On for myself i'm a little white boy from stratford. Okay but fourteen years planning to boost private east and that's almost quite trainspotting. He kinda music and don't have any us playing blues fis so young honestly at a show on was the radio shows studio one of them and i would play ray groove and play alongside all the other guys would pie lavas rock so i'll be this little. Why kit in the pie playing some gray coding. The on new my stuff a fan of flying fan fan of flyer and it was. It was a seven still been in school. And i'm sneaking out to play like i'm on on the bill finished blues by traffic. You know two young even do anything. So i mean these long memories you know just you know often. As part of all of us that l. to build that that part of the scene and bring up and element into what the music became. You know out blown out of the right seen wonderful time. I never seen on interesting. No-one rewind the tune. Don's tonight braley. No-one re- rewind yet. i never seen. I never see a tune. Get rewind adults until a right until all right. Yeah i was. I want to do it. But i never seen. No one that is seen. That is interesting. Because i mean before there there was. You know people. Frost were play in but he had star. It's kind of in the rif. Seen when i made so he's playing was playing house and stuff. I m progressed into what became jong based yet. Come you come straight in. With of like aug san system sensibilities right you know. Yeah i mean opens now starting with started. Dj also night house in that. Bob yeah styles to house music still. Of course yeah. Send me stuff all the time when the jungle started because it was more reggae influenced at that time too old sound. College came back to me. Get coming while. I was playing music. You know a draw tune and the critic mad not to ship is needs to get reading but agree. This is gonna be a tough one. Do you remember what the chain was can you can you think. I'll rebound yeah This'll be gold. If you remember it may i. It was called Off was called a seven inch in the seven inch on mendoza mendoza record. Label is out june dining. If you find that you don't even know where it is. Because i was looking for long and i was putting chrissy lost that some. Yes chris christie wisdom tournament. 'cause he's and he's probably not that that to nam and it wasn't even it wasn't even a junk is more like to fight. Used to go off in the dance. You know chrissy. Obviously because i always try. He's good as a lovely kate at always trying to catch up with him when he's in la visits over there quite a bit and this this dishes gone out on christmas day cane. So what's the family up to what you going to covid situation. You also listen. Well let me just wanna marry christmas anyway by him on mrs with sliding doors we got nowhere. Okay dr bake to weld. Catch anything so not i can come on. We keep it does right. The coverages of stocks got loads of sweets decorations. Up as you can see behind me loads of presents and everything. So we're good to go capable chef. that's lovely. Yeah definitely a look. I know it. Yeah i know and it's about. It's all about family. You know we got we got off and and you know we pull the followers of the podcast and the label. Keep in safe and stuff. We've we've here trying to give that message in a real because potent. Every every christmas is the around is not. You're willing bravo's acid in wolfenstein. And if one goes to hell family gathers around everybody goes. There is christmas. Went up to that. Client life with all the off three tshuva in families and in the wider community. And that's you know that's what we did back in the day when was raving. That was the right family when and let's just list because we i mean Let's let's take us back to sign win. I reckon you and me both solids as well because an opportunity you picked out for me and you said this is one of my old song fibers and yeah was really because that's definitely a mindless on favorites and this is i mean i was. I was a soul jazz funk you know those days. The pirate stations like solar j. fm l. w And they play in. wr r. this is before. I even whatever your and this and this band. The challenge was studio and they had different vocalists and and light you sometime. Jocelyn brown would front and this was luther vandross glow lousier and this was before he blew up as loofah duluth. we both knew and loved with silo. Career let's listen to this one. We'll have a chat about that blooming. Ten sa- pleasure and you transfer all. That's new shoes. And wear given what we know. Where g menam walking in the change featuring live vandross the glow of love this. That's i am. Before he had blown up to the legend that you'd be kind and before he solo career and you could sell from those recordings a voice is just incredible and the nice thing about introducing stuff like this but this is a special edition they might be some of our listeners. The just just been rave and german base and and style was like that that maybe doesn't know some of these early attracts if you do wonderful Tell us how these are important to you. And you'll musical education. That choon and a host of i was alone. Era was on the amazon really going raving That listening to music by music. George benson new. How deeper than that was assigned to us. Eighty clinton music now really had a big record collection and that recorded. I'll just used to love time. I'm bob played played a Goes potty and that record of physical played about four or five times one off to the abbot who played stein again. It played a big would avenue. I mean it was just really brilliant. Soon huge huge chain and maybe people don't know pre rave there was also a movement that was kind of aware asked paul movement the ray groove after we had that kind of that fostered like jasmine early mid i-it's jazz funk movement which ends like this this would have been post disco like so after checking can knows roaches and stuff like that. Yes but then. We had that ray groove khanna movement bobby and steve and and finger pop no those kind of socks. Oh and that that became before there was warehouse raves for for music and hall courthouse. We were gone ally. Rae groove raves. On me it was a big rave called durham. Cnc and say yeah. You're soundsystem touchdowns just like sound system. Not was just so music and you know. I just didn't play. You're not played. Samis in the early ninety s but Yount that them days did for me was when the whole music live in the uk. Changing when i was growing up when i was young boy who you heard was what was on top of the pops yet that was sounding music. You hurt you. Not i mean and the guy what my mom and dad. He used to buy as well. But that was the only heard that when you start a new arises you know you haven music coming from the site so not. This is music that you don't you dip a heard on on the on the radio on top of the pops or anything you'd have to go to one of these whereas parties to hear that music and that's where that's when i started a rule domon rises into music issues. It sounds britain. Not means just next level so i mean that was the influence on you. It's like discovering the yeah you intake. Yeah like music from america. The was a said more to you than the pop music really. Yeah because i'll definitely because if you listen to music while making tonight some of my intros even i like melodies that i mean yeah i like melodies ally come i mean. Don't get me wrong. I love all the german base. The baselines original journal by spiceland pleasant be outlets of bring back. Some of the old school baselines. Yes on music. Yeah and that's where that comes from. It comes from listening to people like change. Listening to people are cow. Malcolm no model reggae and soul influences coming to the music while making today. Yes i mean you. You carried that soulful influence into music production and your deejay says that she makes makes them. Blaine kenny kenyan. He's like yup taking the people on a journey right. No pre program sets you know. Tell us about tipping on dj. Set when you first came out. Was there a typical deejay did you. Did you draw for a different tune. Depending on what the crowd would do in a venue is in what was it. Dj set light back then up never ever preplanned to say done. Some free plan is when someone's life. I think years ago you can even be allowed to choose to mix on cd. I think he did an album force. Yeah yeah yeah. Some bison moving shadow yes that was tree plant you know. Obviously not i mean when i first i jane juicy said would highlight in a crowded sunday veteran. Sanada cry yet and how was gonna plan. What would they was going to get. Played in do supply of not some fake faith nine in his. He's very difficult to pull off because initial confident. The dj won't before you got none of in june's by you capri plan to sit on. Never use the preplanned Because i would like to. Would it take for one day. Giant play one of them choose competent in teams. Before you. and that's it you said smith stuff. Yeah but i mean we. We thought you mean in current times the the as the currently chase off pre-planning sets and if you and you'll you'll have you're screwed if the before you is played. His last song is the opening song of. You'll set exactly done. That's a new sign that right then i'll be in a position where come to the club light while about ten minutes late. Yeah and the. Dj's on before me is a young anglo mentioned on nice. Young dj or yeah. And when i looked into the booty style wow that'd be loss coupled tunes. I said we can use that. The company choose well. How many book on our set. My play will not apply. Not me just weighed. You know how many different mentality you know you would have to allow for any possibility you know back in the day and you have enough enough records the if the next to date. Dj's zinser you could roll it career. I think i remember carrying that rightful even cutler time you would i was on its beta box boy for today. You know in the club without having to go to secure. I'm not carry you cover you get bags. Skin days andy row play for gandhi. Everyone back it back in the albanian. I'm becoming shop was well and the pundits the front we get back and get with a good good stuff you and purchased by opening the good stuff. Thanks kenny everyone. At a chance to get on the air going to be ex- ex- customers of boogie. Time coming here get stuff again and always an exclusive or would make vip. That was a big. Yes exactly you know giving giving out that. Vip that may be at your name on the intro or special and tell us about i experience of going and it said that you at the top play. Choon no sat and we just lost liam for music ashes well so reticent patients. Ns the big shots were soul. When announced the africans very upset about that tennis us about experience of like kinda music hassle the first apply. I've a cop was a chin and it was called Member the our them nurse you on tain greenville. Sit on will yeah. We've done it. It was ten bad. Dj's nine in a club. Kind of thing. Yeah and if wombat deejay did that before and it was it was done over a jungle be and that was the first one that i ever caught as an exclusive asaka. Yeah yeah that played places somewhere in acton in west london because the lockdown come from west london but my main place for cutting back in the day was music ass. Yeah i the really jaycees. Yeah nice got jt alone. We got it. I didn't wait as long. I think i think the dj's preferred white iran because it was almost a social governance lie. Hang in the babas and chattan never social. And that's what that's what was. Yeah i just got jcs. In only to be in. and out of. I'll i'll go in our day but you guys at jt. S and and a harry potter. Leon on definitely was to the same tell us batman lot music was a was a big part of mind and a lot of other deejays careers. Because like you said is not cut. It was like the local barber shop. We've got out guard. There and gardening lives on. What a coupla cite five tunes and then you'd get address And that the sonic initiative in you trading on the elections loan. So you said a guy to five Music cast of sun cold. Because i spent so much money there that the money will add for them five jobs that be finished but chris and liam was so cool. That's just what you want. Combat next week pious. Not means so. I had a really good relations sock patsy. Anything on one basically not just made up of teachers at the same. Why was well into the. Dj's yeah yeah. They probably looked off softer title. After it was like. I've used to get phone cools off a leon. Saint can come is does not want to come down there. You just wanna get into now. You know i mean the albuquerque's up fuzzed. I reached out at ten o'clock in the morning. Don't come at six o'clock at night. You know i mean it was. You never know who else is coming for the dole. And what they're going to be homeless if you go. That's right. frost. Frost is coming. I come in On us a night side can get these that you need that. Shoot at any say going to cut it was just. It was just a place if you music. Anyone who stopped domino's go go to music. That was yeah. Yeah and it launched a you know so many baked songs. The exclusive the gave him the extra attention they became the ones that were You know the highlight of the set that week at the exit next several weeks as long as i live and that bill correze and ready to their music. I mean we used to get people coming down from over the country. Scotland island wows just to co stuff up music house yet and music is is a big chunk drama bicycling. Yeah i mean there were record idea would regain his mind things right for us breslow in the jungle trouble. Basic music house was big of careers because the night with us Get stuff a make mica. Dj sets bell because you knew by guides unbeaten ice box one box of vinyl. And they're not app another folks which is really really heavy planes. Yeah i mean an them. Time jets caveat music and usb nowadays jets carrying music that heavy explained for the listener. That doesn't doesn't know that adopt by is because it was he was a metal plate with like a lacquer on it right. These heavy aren't yes. It's not without play is Is weird the reggae. Back in the day. I'm talking about the indians since nineteen seventies the reggae all gung Place they wanna ways. You know the special special. We just took that culture of audience. Jungle drama base. It wasn't especially sky. We've cut in. Lake freezes suburban base new june common app by be out without solid. Come to your shop get south you and then go dance music that way you can have it like ci fresh out the studio we fan we gotta in your hands and it might take a month for even to get test persons that you've got it for that month giving it to get that pre yeah so literally and the nice thing for us labels can we get to kind of road test it a little bit we got like we think we might attrac- weaknesses decent sonoma guys. We would know very quickly because because you guys at its ice. Mayo's and the crowd is. I'm able to i love. I love some of the talk about me on catalogue. Some of the moving shadow catalog absolutely it dole. Things like helicopter choon. You know match rate base. So i on my her name was the site world out on you. Know that was an instant rewind and it was it was people beside you know really testing those tunes out. Is this gonna work. We aren't so when we o'day drop able yet. There was is from spreading by his Was signed decrees. Yes the cruise lovely offers yet. Yeah will so remark. Yeah there was quite a few and day tunes in. They was some of the biggest june's billionaires co-op with martin the other day and you know it's just like no time had passed meanness Is that even when also tonight. Driving a big rose louis castle. You did it before you know pulling up any. Lpm at site. I will now. I start now. Go that connection. It's like no time and pasta. All not real. And so talking about music. We've listen to a cutler. There were definitely influences. On on your life and career we played some the of jamaican origin. We played some of american origin. And all the kind of the uk was very concerned with this like improve of black music. Ours hundred four. We got some point where we were recalled into making music of our own That was real lie of and uk and one of the first to come along with was something you've picked out here An ice cold richie. Rich the guy that she slugged jay street records and they put out jungle bravo's and queen latifah they will like the uk all of those releases. This song became like an anthem. Halcion hassi indoor anthem. It was over your story kind of london. Club's anthem south house was originally a b side of was turning up and we are remember selling in the shop. You know when we started out and it's like it was it. Was this bayside summit. I'm going to play a little bit of this. Richie rich salsa house. Maybe go a little bit of Richie rich sausa- house. That was such an important tune in so many ways because it was one of those early productions of the really sorts of coffee in the racine that was from a uk producer in a uk label. Although they very cleverly if you remember this they did it as an import so is also rats and devotion we getting. Any member was an import. Yeah yeah and wasn't a very clever very clever. Why is it so tell us for for you and your career. That's the dance or dungeons the road this before i started dijon. Dj tony st johns nine. Tommy big time day job in any way that you got a mix of it and just june on the chew and that's what got means. Dj did having that shuna four on the expense. Play these this music. I mean and remember guidance. The stafford up that market an describing the june on Piano in it staff member the equipment went and he paid it. I said yeah. That's it listenable. Surprise you and you give me a different mix of why never heard before you're not an awful e af from my that that's their favorite tune in since from from nineteen eighty-eight from started writing. That is my favorite. You know opportune. No chewed up yet. Even in juggle juggle vice. It's me like that does. Yeah i do. That was very early. Must have been like an eighty seven. Eighty eight release. you know. y- you know what i mean so many it was a it means. It means a lot to too because every time i heard in a raven just freak out you know what i mean. Yeah six not me up. Just don't get road. There's loads of other tunes these fans and institutions there. But for me personally. That's there is number one but this is a tune reading. Might you want to be a dj. This i want to be a the. I'm in show There was there was another chink. Steve hoffman lengthy shoes anyway. Them conned music. Then when i say as steve evade the that right to choose their i suspect come up on and they're not asked me. It's about playing smile. Because i really like the music we need to be playing it and i remember one day. I was a biology right in a failed and it was my birthday. I cry records in the backer. Bruce quite was one of my friends at a colony models. Ended the call. I'm we've rider group set to me on my birthday. That right and he said to me about the robot finished up that and it still carry on you know. I mean but the main pot right in finished so it was just like a free for kind of thing not me. So that's gonna get your records. So i wouldn't go. More records will cry up on the scaffold. The blues plate the food than i went on as soon as i went on the side. Sny ship the elbow coming. Pull the plug that yeah because it will generate as you know i mean degenerate is gotcha but that was my first experience of playing in front of a massive for people. You know what i mean. And and i pulled the plug. That was. yeah that was. That was the chew i often. Don't mean sounds is the at the beginning. The whole crowd with matt and then i'll just classic rights lorries money classic. Yes and i think what was important for us with stuff like that. It's like seeing. Uk produces come in for emergent of that time and yamana definitely national of like let people go. We can do this. You know when you record says and jason emerging from the early days not scott simon baseline smith. You know happy mondays. People that don't mean doing their thing of mike and this come together really times. Brilliant times really. Really good signs and you know you're talking about like biology raves and some of those solidify twenty-five that was that was the you know the hassi ended up north and and all the orbital raise we used to call me orbital raves and we'd like to listen to the to the pot radio and find out where to meet in point. Follow a compromise somewhere. We'll should memories of that of that as both a raver and the dj bad trust me always a big part of that. Trust the i always then. This is my visa mill hill services on the one. Yup that was one. That was a main spot yet. If you didn't know if you didn't could listen to pirate radio mobile funds. No we didn't did. We have our phones. I mean people would have been great big one s- jemaine put together. Roy ask anyway. If even if you didn't listen to radio you knew as abe about ten o'clock nine. Ten o'clock drive to mill hill right now one day and just sit there and the way the parties your information or someone because it was it was essential areas from now on the one you could get often twenty five. The lewitt midland. Wherever yet to be you know you could get anywhere. Not practicing for me. It was just madness controlled madness you not. I mean not yet. i'm in one. We've been so right. There's a panasonic factio neom full. If one convoy of costs from familial olawale. I don the twenty five. Why a discount way was low. I'd say at least i under caused might be more guy dandy and full guidance loads a cause and it was so we could see the factory along of our away what we couldn't get to it. Yeah so people would just pop up anyone. Who's who's time people were talking. The 'cause on the heart show on the employee's does dumping the yeah yet dumping the call a running across the field to the factory or infamous raving in big massive factory thousands of people and full of sudden. Enc the committee dnc. What's coming to mind. He said this if cost pops up on the employees back on move at night because with how in the molina he brought up movie economic around back to the concept car toys. That was all the fun of you. That was all the music is like a big adventure back then. You know what i mean. Yeah add so. This'll mike the pa you know. There was the the freedom of movement and needless is given out and even the way we had to find out about arrive. I mean these days you got the incident and you get information. You want your fingertip ever-shrinking may we you know tune in and try and listen mate strangers in a in a service then. That's where we go in that. You know it's incredible. Maybe one of the main main mean places in london was captain common on sunday afternoon sunday morning. Yeah we clapham common off the rabies common common and longer just turn. They ended described cool mark and had a full sierra. This school sierra had one of the most path in the systems on the hood on a call an easy she's in the back of this full sierra bryant and if wanna be sick you know what just be writing. He's call you know maybe caitlyn freelance raise lovely. I'll figure little followers listeners can have similar stories and similar memories. You know nothing. It's just going to If you know this is a special edition of the show and nothing to to bring that kind of like memories and good times and in a been a great software for people to recall those happy at times. You know this is a wonderful thing you know. A little bit of happiness is was being so tough right as a dj with deejays point of view as money. Coming in what the government. The government event is nothing to send you going on bills and everything not mean. So you know it's it's not just me everybody in the entertainment industry suffering victim. Where the ones who a off-field we've put aside you know deejays producers juices Sound people who've plop equipment Ten thousand the news. Everything being affected he in the fair. Everything is being offensive. Amazing him. Shaw have been kind of neglected for this because now on these podcasts cannot sit before that you know who would have survived two thousand twenty without a little bit of entertainment. We've out music or tv or film or you know this. If you're trying to say it's nonessential which is seems to be the message from the government and maybe governments around the world. I mean i'll i'll i'll be living in the us last last several years. The message seems to be. The arts is non essential. I mean canes. Exactly what message would you have survived. Who would have survived without music and tv and film that live entertainment and give us a little bit joy and hope you know what excites me. Because one of these needs to sit on me awesome. Just wipe the dj. Stop not lately. So i've been doing absorb the time out sir. Production on point be w with the production for years. That i mean yeah lost sight as took it really seriously of the help me on me turning everything. Obviously all speak will. Had you do decide to do that. Me doing everything. So he's sunday net. I'm starting to make the. I'm confident enough to lay out. Your major is is being able to do that. Yeah patriotic is teach myself. Yeah i mean yeah having a time to concentrate on and and be creative and that creative event. Yeah you know. I've just not from. Dj's is a dj friends. Was that'd be osama by smith couple days ago and he sits me kid. It's just making them what what's time you're why not. Ss even groove ride. Everybody's just in this in the studio just teach learning yes. Educating yourself more mean you never finish learning man. You never shared uk and for me. I was like there's always is always a lesson thi- and we can aways the more we can always do better but having that creative outlet is just so important you know throw young people like ourselves have been in it for so long. Might so can of tuna wichita of your own productions. There's distant you selected absolute labyrinth classic. Every man every man. And we're gonna play back a special Remix version and we're gonna have a little chat about this again mordor. Great a you do wiz everyone to waste vermont. Wow what a heavy. that's that's especially when remakes and Now remember being dropped in like. What's he called on he. Full ninety. Four can regina rugged von worry. Yeah and man not used to muschamp the place that was like labyrinth khanna. That's one of those ones against rewound. Right ten hitler that choon obviously. But then you're raving meeting new people. And i was a roast and a guy cates out. Smith names so seem to the style will come to cincinnati. Can we to do this. Choon why We're gonna get someone else. Sing it to get involved lasted yet you know. I was really production of one team before that but it wasn't made the juice news to someone else on a bogey be will give records. Yeah i said to come coming on the show. My son went on the studio. And i was begging the tune. But nelson's nine. I'm doing this. And so that was my institutions me arrow and the guy who who on the actual engineering and Steve behind communist little bit on the as well. I'm glad he's talking to the guy He is not alive evanston piece of commentaries nine when he died a few years ago. So it's not. It's not the dunkley original. I remember lit way different. S why to me. I remember from light sound system and the blues pot is us out you what they've done. I don mission from l. donkeys record. Light will joel wherever record company. Yeah can we do a cover version. And the nicer. Gabe throw it Not tested i will smashed up the place as well as the you know what i mean. Come on market vinyl records but that makes that makes what you just played. Gap is the first time of epa donna tune on my own a turning over the notes. Now engineering one now. No engineer just me. Yeah yeah just make it. That's why that's what it means to me. Because that june is the first united dunham meets on in the knox vice. When i made that it was I won't because i want to. Plus yeah i don't think he night wants us to ask us and it just different to the club as well right certain tunes switch with juices idea of what yes to mike or what. He wants to mike something. Yeah we'll just. I'm not going to do it that way. No to try display there is. That's good you not mainland contrite. That way you know and just a different vibe to the to the club and an opportune side to come on that climate as well not not suburban base thinking losing. Shut up white. Lack confidence will be fuller's starts to bring at tunes lot more locally robert dunham beat some basic. Yeah absolutely added producing influence. Slight your dj says in. I did that. Did influence. The other your tj of now offering giant influences martinez. Isis influence mahmoud the well-made Music right the way all dj anyway most itunes. You might have to have an impact. Yeah look you're doing a. You're mike if the insurance meaty good. Lot of lead low chains of intros. And i'm thinking here june jokes since rubbish. I mean so up always drop like just getting drunk right bombing. Yeah yeah i mean. That's that's where more. Dj interest influences. Production i mean. Can we wrap it up. What can we say about the legion. Is kenny came is next few well. After a white guy from the beginning basically still hungry to my music wonderful. A really reading drama deejay says a that last night Seat downright bristol. A really really and someone came up to mississippi. Can you could see that you really enjoy what doing and it's just what do you not. I mean i stopping now. You know. I'll always be here as long as people in a and just what we ship on the mirror. Christmas cakes site been it israel. Why ain't no joke. So you know just keep site and the government do distraught stick to the rules at yeah notch message ken. I completely agree as long as we still love this. This is what we're doing it. This is why we've nerve i. I took a break from suburban baseball. Been in my whole life. You've you've dedicate your life to this and And i always say. I'm going to keep doing this as long as it puts a smile. Face i noticed very kane a now. Europe sent very genuine passionate about. You know everything that you've done for. Could you give me a pleasure you given our listeners. A little pleasure and A cold front you enough. Thank you so much for joining us today. On the on the base impact podcast. Merry merry christmas to you or your loved ones and stay siphoned. Thank you so much came christmas. Merry christmas thanks. The base impact pulse subscribed for more episodes and follow up suburban base records on facebook instagram youtube for updates and additional content. Thanks support tune in next time and stay safe. January nineteen seventy eight a nineteen year old singer. Songwriter has released her debut. 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Frmacos y ms vacunas contra el Covid-19

Francoinformador

05:37 min | Last month

Frmacos y ms vacunas contra el Covid-19

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NPR News: 08-16-2021 12AM ET

NPR News Now

04:58 min | Last month

NPR News: 08-16-2021 12AM ET

"This message comes from. Npr sponsor code for america who believes government can and should work well for everyone. Code for america works with governments and communities to build digital tools and services to meet today's challenges and push for a better tomorrow learn more at code for america dot org live from npr news. I'm nora raum with the taliban. Now patrolling the streets of afghanistan's capital kabul and the country's president having fled the city president biden is at camp david where he's conferring with national security officials. Npr's mara liasson reports the president and vice president med by video conference with the white house national security team. The president discussed with his military and diplomatic aids the draw down of civilian personnel in afghanistan. And how to evacuate afghan interpreters and others who worked for the us military in a statement. The president said he was sending an additional five thousand us troops to help evacuate us allies and afghan personnel. He also said he's asked the intelligence community to maintain the capability to address future terrorist threats from afghanistan. The taliban have released thousands of prisoners including some al-qaeda fighters and there is concern that al qaeda terrorists may soon once again have a safe haven in afghanistan. The very thing the us went to war to prevent twenty years ago mara liasson npr news. More than sixty nations issued a statement sunday urging the calm be maintained in afghanistan that those in power have the responsibility to protect human life and property they said foreign nationals and afghans. Who want to leave the country should be allowed to do so as the new school year gets underway. Children are returning to in person. Classes parents are wondering whether it's safe. Pennsylvania mother christie rice says. She's considering finding a new school for her children because her local school couldn't answer her questions. What type of protocol. How are teachers going to interact with those students. Are they going to make it part of their day to help those students. Keep their masks on properly. And i could not get those kind of assurances. Hearing will be held. Monday on texas governor greg abbott executive order. That school districts may not require students. Where face masks. Texas is experiencing a surge in corona virus cases. Hospitalizations are increasing and state hospitals are running out of intensive care beds. The buses are rolling and the lawn. Signs are going up across. Canada as candidates hit the campaign trail for a national election. Dan carpenter chuck reports as he launched the election. Trudel for the past year government had the backs of canadians as the covert nineteen pandemic hit hard. Now it's up to them to decide who they want to guide the country at a pivotal moment. He talked about his government's record in dealing with the pandemic with the environment and with helping canadians financially during the pandemic now he says it's for canadians to choose how to build back better. After the election call trudeau held a virtual townhall meeting with liberal candidates and finish the day in his home constituency in quebec. The other party leaders took a swipe at trudeau for calling what they described as an unnecessary election for npr news. Dan carpenter in toronto. This is npr news. Nicaragua's only newspaper with the print. Edition is no longer available. After a raid by the country's security forces it continues the campaign by the government of daniel ortega to shut down the opposition in the ramp up to presidential elections. This fall maria martyn reports sundays online edition of nicaragua's leading daily leprince recounts how it's offices were raided last friday five truckloads of anti riot. Police surrounded its headquarters which remain under police custody. The government says they saw evidence of customs fraud and money laundering. La plaza had stopped printing thirsty. It said the government had confiscated supply of ink and printing paper for the third time. Lebanon say is owned by the chamorro family. Two of its members are among at least thirty. Three opposition figures in prison by the government of the data the last two months as the one time revolutionary turned authoritarian prepares to run for a fourth presidential term and november for npr news. I'm mighty martin officials in haiti. Say the death. Toll from saturday's earthquake has climbed to one thousand two hundred ninety seven. At least fifty seven hundred people were injured. The quake had a magnitude of seven point to it struck the southwestern part of the country it destroyed. Thousands of buildings. Haiti was already struggling with the corona virus pandemic presidential assassination and gang violence. I'm nora raum npr news.

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61: Jos Mara Luis Mora  Sobre la libertad de pensar, hablar y escribir

Historiografía Mexicana [Libros de Historia de México]

15:02 min | 1 year ago

61: Jos Mara Luis Mora Sobre la libertad de pensar, hablar y escribir

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Episode 369 - ANG KWENTO NI DEAR DAVID, GIMMICK NI JO AT RETURN OF THE COMEBACK (A SPECIAL EPISODE)

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Episode 369 - ANG KWENTO NI DEAR DAVID, GIMMICK NI JO AT RETURN OF THE COMEBACK (A SPECIAL EPISODE)

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Invention Playlist: A Motion Picture Mystery

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Invention Playlist: A Motion Picture Mystery

"At IBM, problems inspire us to push the world forward. That's why so many people work with us. On everything from city traffic to ocean, plastic smart loves problems IBM. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more one night in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, one on the side of a dark highway. Betty and Barney hill cut lights in the sky two years later, the underwent hypnosis to try and recall what happened. Some took it as fact, others thought it was a fantasy, but what really happened that? September night in rural New Hampshire, join me toby ball for the inaugural season of stranger rivals co-production of iheartradio in grim from Aaron, McKie listen to strange arrivals on the iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to invention a production of iheartradio. Hey, welcome to invention. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe. McCormick and we have got a treat for you today. Last time we told you we would be back this time. With a murder mystery from the development of the motion picture, technology, history and today our friend Scott. Benjamin is joining us on the show. Yeah, that's right I. mean people keep turning up dead in the history of the motion picture? So we thought we'd bring bring in somebody extra to help us out with the heavy lifting on this one Scott loves murder, really great at talking about it and I think it's going to. To be so much fun, so let's go right to our talk with Scott Hey so if you have been listening to this show for a while, and if you have made it to the Coda we tend to do at the end of every episode when we when we do our altro music we you. You've probably heard US mention Scott Benjamin who helps with a research on this show and we've got such a treat for you. Scott Benjamin is joining us in studio. Today Scott is a pleasure to have you I'll thank you for having me I really appreciate it. What should people know about you? Well, I've been around here for a long time, have been pie caster with how stuff works originally for Gosh about eleven years now taken the last couple of years off off air I guess as I do research and writing for some other shows and true crime stuff in fact I've got an all new true crime podcast coming up pretty soon of my own. can't really give you too many more details about it right now, but but it's on its way, but this is this is key to while we're having you on here now. Because he's been helping us with the the invention research, and then suddenly we ran across a little bit of true crime. Potentially true crime or at least a mystery. Embedded in the research for the invention of the motion picture exactly yeah, and I thought this was just a little bit too juicy to let it go. You know without without investigating this just a little bit more and to be honest with you. It's about one hundred and one hundred twenty nine year old cold-case now so I. Don't think we're going to you know, be you know solving. Today. I. Don't I, don't think so, but we'll we try. At least we can. At least you know. Let people know what's happening and let them investigate it for themselves and see what they think because there are a few theories about what happened. There are so here's what here's what's going on. we tend to credit the. Of the motion picture camera to either Edison of the Lumiere Brothers, and you know we, we Kinda know the history behind that and the timing. It's all kind of strange. Timing it all ties in very very closely. Will. It appears that there was somebody that was filming. Motion will filming scenes M- longtime prior to that six seven years prior to that yeah, in eighteen, eighty, eight and the earliest. Film that we have on record. Anything that remains still is from eighteen, hundred eight October, fourteenth eighteen, hundred eight, as a matter of fact, We know the date because of a specific reason I'll tell you in a minute, but it's called the the round garden scene. And that was shot by. A man named blueprints and Lula. Prints scores, french-born, french-born inventor. He had a lot of other things that he had developed a lot of them had to do with Sotogrande the early days of cinematography. He filmed the scene. It was just like two point one seconds I think very quick, but it does show motion and he was using a type of film that was. Is the early days of film that the the paperback and had a very complex way of getting this. You know down and captured. No this one around. Hey, garden scene! Is this before the celluloid film? It is just before the cellular film. Dhabi so, that was just just after this. He had not yet really quite kind of experimented with that yet. they know the date. Date of this film because specifically ten days later, one of the people that appeared in the film died, and so it was like you know this is full, knocked over fourteenth, but on October twenty fourth his mother in law, who was shown in the film passed away, so they know specifically that it was prior to this date in eighteen, eighty eight. It's provable by that. he didn't another seen it was. I think it was a traffic crossing Leeds Bridge in eighteen, Eighty, eight, as well, and there's a few other early films that have survived but they're all from right in this in this timeframe, the stuff from Edison and from the Lumiere Brothers are in. You know the well the early. Eighteen nineties, and then the patents came later, but that's part of the story that we're getting to hear. The patents. Right so we know that Edison was was very much like a patent hawk. Where is that the right word? I mean I I think there's a little bit of over demonization of Edison that may be goes on on the Internet today a few years back. What was it? There was some popular comic Strip for a was basically like Tesla's Great Edison, socks. which which of course it's it's? It's it's probably a flawed idea to really go all in on either individual as being you know this this this angelic figure of invention or this demonic adversary, maybe actually over cells Tesla instead of underselling Edison. Problems I guess is that Edison Edison had a huge laboratory that he worked in where he employed many many inventors, and then of course anything that was invented under that umbrella. He would then take the credit for he. Says Edison's inventions just like any other major corporation does now automotive companies do it all the time you know. People invent features functions. You know parts components, and they may get the patent, but you know I don't know. Ford or GM owns that product. They own that that pathetic the patent. Get the royalties from all that well. This is something we've seen over and over again, just looking at the history of photography and and now the motion picture is that. We want to think about the inventor as this this this this individual, this Justa out there figuring out stuff on their own, a lot of a lot of inventors do fall into that category, but increasingly there's no closer to get into the modern. The more you see, this industrialization of invention the corporate use of invention, and so you know, Edison is just a part of that growing trend memory talked about Kodak on the show yeah I, mean we tend to think of inventories as are. We like to think of inventors as like like Victor. Frankenstein right link, you know the. The independence scientists working on a problem in solitude with their own mad genius, but more often, it's true that inventors need to be part of a a system that's like providing infrastructure that makes their invention possible at the same time that they're working on the invention. The movie cameras a perfect example of this because you couldn't really have the kind of movie cameras that even Edison's people came up with like William Dixon came up with until you had celluloid film and that was what you know. Other people were working on Frankenstein. have been like The novel headed Frankenstein Inc.. Right. Months Edison's likes, you know. He gets one of his little lab assistance like resurrect the dead I you know, and then I'll get the Patton. Yeah this and this stuff is happening on separate continents as well. Yeah, so you know. It's just one of those times in history where you know the. They're working on the same thing. Hundreds, if not thousands of miles apart. And they don't quite know it yet. They don't each each doesn't know what the other one's doing right at that moment. Unless you know, there's some talk within the community of of scientists, inventors of of what they're working on, and in likely they would have kept that pretty close to the vest. They wouldn't have really said. Ham working on this new camera nears in fact, here's a drawing out works. Why don't you? Haven't. Perfect that it doesn't work that way to keep them really really tight until of course you know the goal is the patent. Of course you have to make the the royalties from this invention and apparently. it looks like Leprince beat Edison to the to the mark there the one, so he made all the money right. No, no didn't make any money on it in fact, Bush jump right into the story here at this point. Misery Scott all right, so you know he's. He's working on on stuff. He actually successfully films these scenes around garden scene. You know the the traffic crossing Leeds Bridge et Cetera and he's got this device. It's a it's a single lens. Camera is an improvement over a camera that he had just prior to that, which was like a a sixteen lens camera. That shot is actually to banks of Eight. Lens I think that were there would quickly take images, and and then you could put those together, and then show them in rapid succession, and make you know make a moving image out of them. This is a single lens cameras that would record continuous motion. Requires less laborious editing Yes yes, exactly right and again, and this is the old paperback film. At this point. It was not the not the celluloid at this at this point But. He has this invention. He's ready to find. He's finally after showing it to friends and family, and you know projecting these on on screens in his his laboratory or wherever you know these private showings. He's ready to go with. To the public with US too short publicly and then file for a patent in new. York City here in the United States. And this is going to happen in I believe in October of of eighteen ninety S, when is supposed to happen and so prior to that he's he's still kind of touring around, and he's got his family trying to get things together in New York City trying to get things like a place to do this. You know a of a proper venue CETERA and and they're working on and they've got it. He's still in France, and he makes a trip to see his brother, which is expected at this point because I guess his his mother had just passed just prior to this, so his brother is in charge of the estate and kind of breaking up the estate and You know the the the will I. Guess you know executing the will. So he makes a trip to Dijon France, and he is I spent like three days as brother and who knows what's going on there whether it's you know the talking about finances or whatever I'm sure there's a lot to discuss at that point but then his brother takes him to the train platform. You know the the train. stationed there. There in town in in Dijon and it's a dijon to Paris. Express trains, so it's not gonNA. Stop anywhere going to go straight from their right to Paris and these backward he has to be in the I think he's GonNa head to England and then to New York for this for this. You know the showing this patent, awarding or whatever His brother says that he put him on the train on the platform. And that's the last anybody ever saw of the Prince. He just disappears somewhere in between Dijon and pair in Paris on non stop train on a nonstop train. He completely disappears and his luggage disappears. There's no paper record of him being on the train, really other than his brothers word that he put him on the train. No one can remember seeing him on the train like he didn't share a cabin with anybody or anything like that, and this is a pretty notable guy, and aside from that the guy was six foot four. So he's kind of stands out. Day Yeah, he would. He's a tall guy. it. I don't know how well known he was at that point. If anybody could really recognize him, I don't think that he was but there's really no sighting of him on the train itself and certainly not in Paris when when it arrived. So, obviously that seems suspicious like that. People don't normally disappear from trains. No, no at so the question would be. Are there any reasons people had to suspect foul play related to his invention, other than just the fact that he was about to debut a hotly contested invention, for which people would be competing for patents well, the timing is extremely convenient for anybody else who might be working on a similar invention I mean so think about who that might be and we'll talk about them and just. all this is going down on on September sixteenth of eighteen ninety. He's what forty nine years old at this point, and again just two months later or even one month later I believe he was supposed to be in New York to debut this this in this would've Clearly, it would have revolutionized the industry i. mean it was something that was It was going to make him a lot of money. No doubt about it right, so he banishes. Who, but what's the follow up? WHO's looking for him? Well? Of course, there's going to be an investigation. Right I mean his brother is brothers. Word is that you know. He put him on this train. And now he's just suddenly gone into thin air. Right so Scotland Yard is on the case, and you would think Scotland Yard. You have pretty good decent examination of what's going on here. Investigation. The French police are also. Also looking and his family of course, searching form as well in addition to the other agencies, so I don't know who they hired or how they went about that the family themselves, but you got three separate groups looking for him for years it really I mean they're. They're trying to track him down trying to figure out exactly what happened because again. It doesn't just happen like this It's just a real strange. Strange occurrence so if he disappeared, could you tell initially what the predominant theory was like at the time? Did they think he was dead or do? They think he had run off for what you know I. Don't know if there was a predominant theory at that time. I. Think there were just so many different thoughts going through everybody's head. What could have happened to this guy? You know there's a lot a lot of. Of these came up later in time. I mean some of them are like you know discussed in the nineteen sixties knows we're still talking about this guy, seventy five plus years later with a new theory about what might have happened, but there are. There are three or four main theories had been tossed around for the last one hundred and twenty nine years now. The more recent theories are going to pretend to our. You know our modern interpretations, and really why we remember this guy sure, but at the time thinking like surely they probably approached this in the same way, one might approach a modern disappearance in they would look to. They will look to family. They would look to you know. Connections and major stressors in their personal life. I mean this is a guy who recently lost a loved one may have been involved in some, and he was definitely involved in some sort of state. Situation Jer and you know the I guess we just talk about the very first theory, which was of course suicide, they thought maybe he had jumped from the train on his own somewhere between dijon in Paris, but they they searched trackside. That whole distance didn't find. Anything didn't of course you know. Why would he take his luggage with him if he did that? And now that it would make it even more visible if you know. There's the body and luggage, and somewhere in the woods in between or something like that. Jump off a bridge or right. Okay, so I guess I'd have to questions about that number one if anybody thinks that suicide, is there any physical evidence indicate that no physical evidence as the thing. All of this is just circumstantial evidence. There's no body there's there's no proof of anything. No one saw him. There's no witnesses the theory. I think that one of the theories behind the suicide thought. Is that he? He was in a significant amount of debt when he died those the other thing, I was gonna ask because. He's you know he's an adventurous. Probably Borrowing Taking lonesome people to get these inventions off ground news, fledgling inventions, and I've seen numbers around, and you know these numbers are suspect because they come from a lot of different places, and you read different numbers everywhere. But. They said that he was somewhere around eighty four thousand dollars in debt at the time of his death that would have been a lot of money and still has a lot of money I guess, but it would be so much more in writing ninety. You know kind of an unheard of amount and Yeah, he I guess he didn't really know the The true success of his of his new invention, he would know exactly what that would have brought him. The windfall that would have met I, knew he. He thought it was big. And of course he's trying to patent it, but I. Don't think he had any comprehension of type of money that that would have brought in. Had that been? The fact is? It's not very likely that he committed suicide, either because he he did have this a loving family, he of letters that were shared between you know later on that were shown between him, his wife and other members of his family and you know his whole family was. Supportive! It wasn't like you know he was I duNno wasn't like he was ostracized. And some way you know he was, he was definitely a tight part of the this close knit family, so the suicide theory is rather unlikely for a few reasons all right. We need to take a quick break. We'll be right back with more. Problems it's human nature to hate problems, but why is that? After all problems inspire us to mend things Ben. Things make things better. 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Yeah, it's all circumstantial. Everything is in this in this case again. There's nothing really concrete here to to hold onto. Yeah, yeah, all right so the theory if you if you wanted to jump right into it, you get bright in. So, it's. The timing is suspect in this and we. We mentioned you know there's somebody else involved and. Thomas citizens in gets thrown into the mix quite often when we're talking about this. Is that The Thomas Edison actually had Lula prince assassinated on that train or somewhere near that train now was this something that was alleged by anyone at the time, or was it only an accusation that was alleged like historically as an interpretation many years late. I believe that the family thought initially that that's what the about because I. and I don't think initially I don't think in the initially. Came up with this theory. I think that later we'll find out you know. There's some other things that go onto the kind of. they kind of demonize Thomas Edison, a little bit in the way that. The patent was eventually handled. We'll we'll get to, but I do know I. Read Right. Am I wrong in saying that at some point, Louie La. Prince's wife said that he had left New York because he was trying to escape being pursued by industrial spies. Yeah, so there's some background there a little bit. You know because there is. There is a little bit of that intrigue that you know. There could be something going on there. That's an you'll more nefarious than we would like to to think now of this person you know Thomas Edison but then again. That's like secondhand hearsay. Right? Exactly, that's right. A lot of this is i. mean a lot of it is you know? This person said this to this agency and they reported that and you know it's just I. It gets kind of distributed or passed down a changes a little bit along the right, and then also like if someone is, you know allegedly speaking to paranoia about industrial spies, following them around like that, also I mean, you could interpret that as being assigned of of you know some form of. Not Conspiracy the perhaps you know mental illness yellow. Sure that's also possible and we're not. We're S. we should say this right now I. Guess, we haven't even said this, but but Thomas Edison wouldn't have been you know the hit man. He wouldn't have been the guy. The Guy, pulling the cord tight around the other guys neck, and he would've been a henchman or if it was. Something big rethinking from Russia with love is well I. Can't help but think of cinematic related murders committed. Thomas Edison played by what's his name quint a? Robert Shaw. All right, so I mean, it's fascinating, the timing of all of when all this happens, and the way that Edison then fitted from the death. Of Lula, prints via the patent, so remind us again exactly of the timing here now. Okay, so the timing is that in September sixteenth of eighteen ninety s when Liu the prince went, went missing and. They again Edison was simultaneously working on his own camera, but it wasn't ready at it that the right very very close at the they got their patents in eighteen ninety one. Yes, that's right and he. He was supposed to have the showing are the the public viewing of his devices? Is his camera? Look Prince was a prince was in October of eighteen ninety, so the timing is just far too convenient for Edison. It raised a lot of eyebrows. Eyebrows, let's say because he benefited in such a tremendous way from this because his name is now tied in with the birth of cinematography of the birth of of motion pictures really as are, Lumiere, brothers who came about just a little bit later. I believe right Adam, so nobody's alleged I mean even if there's not much to these allegations. Nobody's alleged that the Lumiere brothers were involved. No, absolutely not, it's all. It's all focused on Edison. That's right because. The air brothers I. Think one of the things there's A. Lot of the interpretations are that they they didn't necessarily see the long term future of this technology themselves, so they don't seem to have the character of like you know viciously plotting for their their their their takeover of of the culture via their this new tack that they've developed. No, no, absolutely not. It's you that shouldn't. Their name shouldn't really come into the assassination. theory at all and. We'll stick with Edison, being the scapegoat on that one, and it was funny as reading this, you'll come across so many different versions of this and the way that this all went down and Joe you. And I had a discussion I earlier in the office about about some of the stuff. That's very very misleading. Oh. Yes, that's right well. I, mean so there is one. I was looking for good like You know articles in journals like journals, the cover, the history of photography and stuff like that peer reviewed things, and there's one article is widely cited around the Internet that alleges. And the discovery of a diary entry by Thomas Edison from eighteen ninety, where he essentially confesses to the murder. Do you have the exact words I do WanNa? Be Clear. We're GONNA heavily. Caveat this second. Yeah, yeah, okay so. Supposedly should I tell where this letter came from, or do you want the executive? No, go ahead all right so this supposedly comes from a graduate student at the University of new. York Alexis, Bedford and in two thousand eight. It was it was. said that he was, he was studying Chemistry and photography was conducted research into history motion pictures for about a year and a half prior to this discovery, and the search leads to what they called the inner forgotten. Archives of the New York Library. Steriods already rights, roomful dusty books, and all that so he he's finding you know. These journals notes these pages that. Are Actually, the work of Thomas Edison and he stumbles across this book. That's just kind of fallen apart. It's a leather bound book. It's really dusty and old, but it's journal. Of Thomas Edison. It'd be fantastic to find something like that that was you know at this point undiscovered really putting on the shelf and left. In the Journal, of course he jotted any was known to keep journals like this. Where jot down ideas and thoughts and sketches. Most inventors do that all do probably. But he finds the following note, and it's got the date of September twentieth eighteen ninety, which is four days after the prince went missing, and the note says exactly. Eric Cole today from Dijon. It has been done. Prince's no more. This is good news, but I flinched when he told me murderer is not my thing. I'm an inventor and my inventions for moving images can now move forward. That's the end of the entry so I have seen. This cited all over in like blog posts in even in books I looked. The this has been cited in books as. Of Edison's involvement in this supposed- murder I am ninety nine point nine nine percent certain that this is a work of fiction, and I don't mean to work of fraud I. Don't mean like a something that is trying to be passed off as nonfiction. I believe that this article is intentionally published as a work of fiction that has been misinterpreted as a as a straightforward report of a real event. What led you to believe that? And there are a bunch of things I mean number one. It's never way it's if this were true. This is just a straight a murder confession, yes, or at least conspiracy to murder. Well, I mean the language of it is somewhat anachronistic, not not my thing. well no I. Mean on one hand I want to say as a work of fiction I. Think at this hidden that bad. It's it's kind of interesting, but so I tried to look up the names that are cited in this article like of the student who discovered this your and of another historian who's named in this article, the I can't find evidence of these people. They don't appear to me to be real people. People of course that problem. One thing that I noticed is that it says Edison says in his confession from ninety in his diaries that he says Eric called me today from Dijon so in eighteen ninety. He received a transatlantic phone call. That is not possible. I do not think there were transatlantic phone calls in eighteen ninety I. Know in the first one is made. Oh, yeah, yeah. is January seventh, nineteen, twenty seven. So thirty seven years after this call was supposedly made is when when he claims or this note claims that he received a phone call. I think we've had a problem. Here of just mislabeling an article from a journal that should have been clearly noted as a piece of fiction, but has confused a lot of people right, and it could have been more clearly labeled in the print version, but was then digitized. So that's possible. Yeah, correctly, e said earlier as well Robert that you know. Know there have been pieces of fiction that have been passed off. Scientific well or at least have been published in scientific journals not even necessarily passed off right just like present like hey, Peter Watts was the example that came up to watch. A former marine biologists turned sci fi writer, and some of his works of short fiction have appeared in scientific journal. Oh I see okay, but but they were they were. They were not presented as science, but then again if you. Can well. Imagine Wherever Journal were digitized. Wouldn't even say incorrectly, but without sufficient you know Meta, data data branding like you could have something that is that that is fiction would show up and be like. Oh, well, here's this. Here's this murder confession. A just shows up out of nowhere. All Right? It seems completely implausible, doesn't it? Yes. I do not think this happened. I don't think so. No, no I! Just I don't put a whole lot of stock behind it but I think a lot of people do a lot of people like the intrigue of thinking that you know. Edison was really that bad that he has somebody off over an adventure. Pat Did kill topsy the elephant. And Horses and Dogs maybe yeah, he was He liked to experiment with electricity, didn't he? I mean Tom I'm not saying I think it's impossible that Thomas Edison had something to do with this, but I definitely think that this thing about his murder confession in the diaries work of fiction that has been misinterpreted as a real factual article and number two I I don't know we. We should be careful about making historical accusations of murder just based on circumstantial evidence. was reminded again. There is no physical evidence of this whatsoever. No, no nothing concrete at all, but there is often this this this tendency I think to want to see the past in movie form, and you know in which is ironic given. We're talking about much. We want to see it is dramatic cise you know we. We WanNA think it. more along the lines of the prestige. With who had a villainous Edison it right? Who did send henchmen to like hack up a yes, Louis tough great. Okay, maybe maybe it's possible, but not not really that likely yeah, I'd go with that. Okay all right so. That was that was the second one hers actually three four or five here total if you want. All right so number three would be the disappearance that was a disappearance. It was ordered by the family now again, pretty unlikely in this case because it was a tight knit family. Do know that from notes that were passed between family members. It was a loving type net group. Brothers the last one to see him alive, and there's this whole estate business. Yeah, that's right. That's yeah, exactly so that's a that's a possibility. The the disappearance was ordered by the family was something that was born out of the idea that La- Prince could have been a closeted homosexual that you know. He had a family had kids. However, he was carrying on these these other relationships that were homosexual nature, and the family was at the time, embarrassed by this and sent him away to live somewhere else without them You know that he was kind of the shame of the family at this point. They banished him into some kind of exile because he was gay. Exactly, that's the thought that's the theory and you know. I think that this is one of the ones that comes about much later. This is from a nineteen sixty six French. Film History Book. Okay, where the Guy Jacques mess up the last name here, but the Land L. say this is probably his name close to it. Anyway, He suggested that his disappearance because his family that disapproved of his homosexuality, so they think that he fled to Chicago where he died in nineteen I'm sorry eighteen, Ninety eight naturally and again I I know these numbers are coming out of nowhere and there's not a shred of. Evidence or proof that that's what happened. But it's just a theory. It's another theory that and I don't know why Dilan thinks that, but he does in much in the same way that it's. Possible that Addison. You know orchestrated a merger I. Mean certainly we could imagine this being the case. I mean low certainly lines up with You know. Homophobia at the during that time period and but I would like. What's the actual evidence? I think I've read critique of this theory that said that there's really no evidence that he was gay. Now now there's no. There's no evidence of any of this. Yeah, none of it. I mean not that he lives in Chicago, not that He. when I say eighteen ninety eight. There's no proof of that. There's no there's really nothing to this. It's just another theory that was thrown out there again as late as nineteen sixty six, so we're talking seventy six years later after the guy is gone is just a theory that posited by somebody that you know you can grab onto and say like. This reminds me a lot of You Know Jack The ripper theories except a little more limited in scope I guess, but yeah, you know Alan. Moore's whole evaluation of that is that it ultimately is this this Koch snowflake scenario the whole the like freemason conspiracy with the what the surgeon to the Queen Victoria Oh, yeah they're so many different versions, but ultimately like his argument was. There's we only know so much. We will only ever know so much and You know. It's just kind of an exercise in how many? Little little blank spaces we can fill in. I think actual historians of the period think that like that whole theory is definitely wrong for Jack The ripper, right? At least that's what I've read. Yeah, well, sure I mean. It's all possibly Diba coopers and other one right, uh-huh. Ever. Face, in of course there's always it seems like there's every couple years as someone who's making a deathbed confession that they are DB cooper more. Your father was, and it's safe to do that. In the same way, it's safe to continue to make a lot of ultimately kinda like crazy ideas, because we don't know and we probably never will know. Yeah, that's exactly the the scenario with this year. So what you're telling us. Is that Thomas? Edison wrote the dear boss letter like he was the ripper. That's he did the white chapel murders because let's see because he was afraid that they would get ahead of him. On some kind of knife, patents theory, good theory. Yeah, okay, link very likely to back back to this case we'll. What are some more of our theories right so that out the other one and this is really one of the last ones you'll hear about, but then I've got another one that I want to throw in there to fratricide, which is his brother killed him. Well again comes back to the at the last. One is and exactly right. I mean it. It could have been over money or as mothers. Will you know the brother get greedy and WanNa? Take his share as well and that's that's an entirely possible scenario. I mean the only prince, the only person that saw L- appearance at the Dijon station was brother. No one else saw him on the train. No one else really I don't know if there's a report of him seen on the platform even but his brother swears that's the last place that he saw him. He put him on the train with his luggage, and that was it then he just disappears into the mist somewhere. Suspicion very often does fall when somebody disappears on the last person to have seen them right. Yeah, and the other thing is you know? Of course you know Scotland Yard and the French police and the people that were investigating for the family. They all eventually interviewed everybody that was on that train at night. There was no You know sense that anything aggressive. Aggressive was happening next door in the cabin or you know the they heard or saw anybody being thrown from the train or jumping from the train or anything unusual, and there was nothing really out of place on that whole. Thing it just it's almost. It's like he was never there and I. think that's the ideas that he really was never there, right. Now though is taxable nation. Right exactly the thought behind this is that his brother had him disappear to put it politely. One More theory. Okay, I'll let it go. There's there's other people that didn't kind of throw this around and talk about it in In a way, that doesn't make sense with a lot of what we told you, so. That's they all have some kind of hole in the story, but There's a theory that he actually did make it to Paris and he was on the train, took his luggage off the train, but somehow wasn't seen by anybody did the whole time and had to take a cab from the train station, which was the train I think would have. Have arrived around eleven pm so very late. He was going to go to the lab. Or you know somewhere to work. Maybe in studies on a house and the theory is that you know the The coach that he took from the train station to wherever he was going to the person who's driving the coach likely just knocked him over the head stolen luggage. You know which probably had some cameras and things in your devices. Devices and and simply dumped him in the river, and that was happening. I guess quite a bit at that time. If you go back and investigate you know murders at the time, it was not all that uncommon for someone just to be kind of off quickly overnight like that. dumped in the river never to be seen again. Well, we're found as a supposed drowned victim, and there's kind of an interesting twist to that, too. Is that in two thousand three Someone's going through The the Paris police archives and found a photograph of a drowning victim from eighteen ninety. That looked a lot like. La Prints. Really Yeah so there is a photograph of a drowning victim that does match. His description does look like him and that's a possibility that he did drown or somebody you know often made it look drowning, and that's when he was discovered this this whole idea, just the basic idea that maybe he did make it to Paris like that opens it up tremendously because there are only so many ways to die on an express train to Paris, but there are hundreds of ways to die in Metro Paris, but how does a six foot four men you know, blend in, and not even make his appearance. You know known on any of the cabins. It's a full training. I don't know. So why? Why do they think he didn't arrive in Paris. Like who who would have seen him there well, he was gashed. You know what he was scheduled to go there to meet with friends I think and then return trip to England. So maybe maybe people were supposed to meet him in Paris and didn't more made his supposed to meet them after you know, I mean I guess picking up a friend at eleven o'clock at the train station. That's kind of like it is now. You know picking up a friend. Eleven o'clock at the airport yeah. It's not a not a great favourite. Ask If somebody you know with that. Sometimes you have to, but maybe maybe they didn't. Maybe they said you can catch a cab you know. Meet me at this hotel in the morning or something like that. This is all again just theory I. Don't really know the surrounding story about what was supposed to happen in Paris when when he made it, there but yeah. Maybe he did make it maybe didn't. We don't help, but he's. The theory again. The predominant the predominant theory is that he went missing somewhere between Dijon and Paris. He never really made it there. But there's a lot of different you know. Ideas tossed about and shrieking up with five more scenarios might make sense, but the timing is just all very very strange, because again this this this whole thing comes back to patent. That never really happened, but then Edison Kinda swooped in and took the patent. The family I guess you would think the family could patent his devices i. read somewhere that there is like a seven year waiting period between when somebody goes missing and you can. I don't know if this is a US patent law or what, but you're not able to patent the family members item until after the person's officially declared dead, and I think he was declared dead in eighteen, ninety seven, so that was seven years later but in that time for in that window of time that's when Edison came in with his his new camera and patented device, and and of course made fortune the royalties. So it just interesting timing with all this of course. That's sparked many patent wars. We know they're patent wars that were happening at the time over many many different things I mean the rape the rape brothers. They fought a patent wars for about eleven years in the same thing with Alexander Graham Bell Telephone. Is it took something like eleven, years and six hundred lawsuits I think. The telephone, there was a huge patent fight just over celluloid film. because. It was apparently I developed sort of vague way with a kind of poorly worded patent by by an Episcopalian Minister from New Jersey named Hannibal. Goodwin think that's right. Hannibal's rate. Yeah just looked it up. That's right. Hannibal Goodwin but then also the he was in competition with the patent on celluloid film the belong to the Eastman Company and so they fought over that of course, Eastman was producing celluloid film at at. At, bulk legs and enough to sell it to Edison and Goodwin was not. This still happens today I mean Sony, and Kodak were in a patent war that lasted until two thousand seven over digital cameras. Also, it's newer technology, but you know there's still fighting these same type of what type of wars you know. It happened with radio. It happened with cars. Airplanes name any big invention late bulbs it all you know went through the courts in some way many many different times, and you know there's always a battle over who who invented I, and who has the rights to it right? It's the money from it, and then here can then come the patent trolls. That's right. Yeah, there. There are people that are controls, trolls rate, who just can scoop up the the patents from other people that are more or completely deserving of that patent and they take a course credit for it, and and I guess maybe Edison would you know? Would he count as possibly patent troll? I mean he had a different scenario. We talked about his labs and you know how he had You know lots of inventors working under his umbrella. Yeah labs, and that was something different maybe. yeah, he's. I do think Edison was not above pouncing on somebody. Else's idea thought he could get there. I I think so, too. You don't I don't I. Don't know if you would think that. This would all kind of play out smoothly in the courts and it. It certainly didn't I mean it wasn't. wasn't as as cut and dry as you might think. LA- Prince the princes. Son Ate his name's Adolf He appeared in court I. Guess as a witness for. The defense in a case that was brought by Thomas Edison against a company, called the American Mute scope and biography company, though interesting interesting thing about that is that company was founded in eighteen, ninety, five by William Kennedy Dickson, who was the guy that worked under Edison? It has lab to create the camera. He developed a camera. He's the one who who really did all. The the photographic work on it against the lenses, and you know the film and all that you know the technology that made that work really yes, so he's the one that he's the founder of the company, so Edison is suing him, but the Prince Adolf, look prince is son again comes in eighteen, ninety eight, and testifies as a witness for the defense in this court case in he claims in that court case that look prince was the first and only inventor of cinematography, so we can throws in this bombshell into the into the the proceedings, and he says of course because of that my family my dad had been you know his his dad had been declared. The year prior is then. th they should be receiving royalties for this award for this this device, and of course, the patent that goes along with it the whole process, right? Will. He was unable to submit his dad's cameras as evidence in that court case for some reason, the judge said no, you can't. You can't show me these cameras. He wasn't able to put it into into the the cases as evidence, and so the the court ruled in favor of Edison in that particular case, but a couple of years later they overturned that and you know the direction was reversed, or the decision was versed rather. But this is another interesting twist in the story is that Adolf was He's a young man. At this time. He's twenty nine years old like I think it's two years later. It was in sorry three years later in nineteen. O One, so he's twenty nine. He's out hunting duck hunting near his family cottage, which is on fire island in New, York state and he ends up being shot to death. And I don't know if he was hunting alone. If he's hunting with somebody, you would think that all this would have been a little bit more You know public knowledge you know what happened, but but the the recording of this is that he was just simply found dead after he was out duck hunting with his own rifle at his side. Side! They don't know if it was suicide. If it was an accident, of course could have been either one of those rate, but the mother you know the widow now la- Prince the the mother of Adolf says that she thinks that it's the second murder that you know. The kid simply knew too much, and because he had testified in court. Everybody else knew what he knew now and and that was the reason for another merce. There's another murder mystery at the end of that one. That's never really been solved either is that you know? The Sun turns dead at at a young age just two years later three years later so obviously. The villainous are yeah what they think. He was involved in that, too. Again, that's another theory. Yeah, there's a possibility what happened, but then on the same hand you can see why you murdered is not needed. Actually be involved for one to for especially with this family to To have you know some degree of hatred or distrust of Edison of course, and therefore it's not that much more of elite then give you know especially if you're distraught over yet another. Untimely Death Slash disappearance in the family to jump to this this next. Level of accusations for sure, and they're going to point to the villain that they already know he's already established as the villain of the piece, the villain of the family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I, mean again. I think this is just a fascinating part of history and something that I never expected to come across when we're talking about motion picture cameras. It's strange. How you know the story? Just I. Don't know it captivated me right from the beginning, but it's strange. The the twists and turns of this story tastes all right time to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Looking for a new podcast. Who isn't these days well? 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To do with the inheritance or I do and I think that it's I think because of money is just such a strong factor in a lot of these cases, especially when you're talking about among family members where the supposedly tight, but money does come between people like that, and it's unfortunate, but it happens, and maybe he didn't have the he didn't have the The the foresight to know that you know. His brother would have been so much better off. He wouldn't have been you'll. A. A burden I don't know. I don't know how better to put that. Maybe I'm saying that wrong that you know. He wasn't really. A burden is just that. He stood to make twice the amount of money from the inheritance as he would if his brother was still around. he could take his share and and. Just downright greed. Yeah, yeah, I mean I but ultimately again this is just a circumstantial hunt and trae. Exactly right I mean any of them. Any of these theories are possible, not very likely some of them but but I think that the the fratricide is probably the The one that is closest to you know. Correct I think yeah, yeah. So. What about either of you? He Gut feelings on what it might be. I mean on one level. We We already talked about my bridge. Who Definitely can hurt somebody? There's no question about says. Yes, so there's so so the idea that there there. Are you know there there might be a murder in photographic motion picture history you know I'm? I'm already on board with reality. I guess I. Like your argument though I mean when you come down to like. What are the reasons that homicides are committed know? Generally it's going to be some sort of you know of family, connection or somebody, the victim new not some shadowy organization that was plotting against them shirt, so it seems like that. Data that It it removes the whole mystery of where how did they disappear on the train? Avi If he jumped to. His death wanted to take his luggage with them in the. Body and that luggage found so. Yeah I. I like your argument on this. Okay, fair enough. What about you Joe? I don't know I'm not good at things like this. I think sometimes of what people say. I know I. Don't want to malign you guys because I asked the question but I. Think what one time somebody asks Carl Sagan do. You think they're aliens out there or something like that. And he said I don't know and they said well. What's your gut feeling? And he said I try not to think with my gut. so I don't know I. I may have gut feelings, but I feel like. Maybe it's better not to say them I guess I probably have a gut feeling that agrees with you. Maybe I I tend to think you know. It when people are pointing outside of the inner circle at very often, is something inside the inner circle. Then again, a random crime could have possibly explained it. I- very convinced by the by the Edison thing. Yeah I, think I think like the per. The Parisian argument that also is kind of convincing the idea that like all right, maybe made to Paris and they're just. People didn't notice him on the train, and then once he gets to Paris there's. Any number of ways that he could have Untimely robbery murder, which then resulted in a corpse that they found in the river that I see that's I. Don't know why he wouldn't have been discovered that point why. I think you, wouldn't they? Even like publish photos of of people that were drowning victims that the unidentified bodies, so they people, or they could place them on view in some of the the morgues, their in town numb. Because drowning was such a common thing in these unknowns. They wanted to forget who they were and. Where they came from at least give them a proper burial. You know another family to to take the remains and do what they want, but I dunno just seems like it's A. Possible scenario that yeah make the Paris, and yeah, he did. Get off by some cabdriver. It's the least cinematic theory to. I feel like often like a way to try and judge the past like which which is the least interesting story? Then know there's a chance that that's the way to go alisher. Yeah, that's a very good point. If it makes a good story, you should be inherently skept. All right I mean the bottom line is is we don't know we'll probably will never know. So, obviously, listeners out there. You may have some some theories you want to chime in. You want to share your Your solution to this mystery well, here's one thing I will say if you if you're one of those people who likes to stick it to Edison, and I can sympathize. Understand sticking it to Edison You don't have to resort to saying I think he's a murderer based on no physical evidence whatsoever or Or referring to like fictional story about a about a diary entry, but you can say he didn't get there i. in fact, he didn't get there. I in multiple ways like La La Sprints had the movie camera before Edison definitely an even Edison's own Connecticut Kinetico P- you know it looks like the heavy lifting was done by Dixon now. By the Edison Yeah at this point. We're arguing over when the patent was filed. Yeah, I mean that's all it really comes down to and that and that. Then begets the money right I mean that's the whole goal behind all of this really for them. Is that you know I think? Maybe the prince had more of an altruistic view. This that you know. He just simply wanted to make make it better. Make photography better by bringing motion to the screen in front of people and maybe Edison. I think was more money driven. Yeah, I think that's the way it comes down and fame and credit driven. Yeah, exactly right now and of course would have been great if they come for the prince's well, but it never did well. Maybe it will now maybe. Posthumously right? Yeah, well. I don't Gash wonder how much how much is family still exists. Over there. Is Out there still that that might benefit from something like that. Ari, how how benefit from something like that? Every film now made the musk give. Of Prophets to his family, they could charge per minute right, yeah! That's some exorbitant cost I'm sure. All right Scott will thanks for coming on the show here to. Murder mystery with a and well I hope it into. Leave you with more questions than answers. But. That's not your fault. That's what history does. Were released kind of reopening the books on this one. Letting people know what happened I. Don't know I I like when we can can spark someone's interest in something and get them to search on their own, and maybe kind of in a figure out alternate theories or Chime in with what they think may have happened. That's that's always fun for me. Yeah, it was certainly everybody loves a good murder mystery, so if we have if this has helped, make the the history of the motion. Motion picture more engaging for podcast. Listeners than than I. Am in favor of well great I hope it has it has and thank you again for inviting me here. I really appreciate the offer and I love to sit with you anytime. Absolutely, thanks so much for coming been fun all right well there you have it. Thanks once more to Scott Benjamin for taking time out of his day out of his research to join us on the show to discuss a little invention and indeed potential murder, potential murder, potential suicide potential. Run away and hide in Chicago potential. Were there any others? Do we have like a beast more situation, those potential hidden away by the family I. We didn't even get into like any just crazy speculate. We didn't get into aliens. No abduction, no! Off became sasquatch Orlando ears I mean. 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Mexico's #MeToo

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Mexico's #MeToo

"The episode of in the thick is brought to you by hellofresh. Get eighty dollars off your first month by going. Hellofresh dot com slash in the thick eighty and enter promo code in the thick eighty every time you said me too as a public figure as an R twos. As our journalist. You set me to either leave you you are breaking the system. What's up? Welcome. To in the thick. This is a podcast about politics race and culture from a POC perspective. I'm mighty anal Hossen. And I'm and joining us from Mexico City is Bonilla is she's an investigative reporter with maybe she on a columnist with it'lldo them. He can't hate anyway. Welcome back to the show. Welcome everybody. And joining us in our Harlem studio is someone who is part of our family here at full doodle media. Emily Goto night is a freelance journalist, and she's the digital intern right here at or media, what's up Emily higher Vinnie. All right. So first of all couple of things that we're not gonna talk about on this show is some president of the United States saying something to the effect of we're full. So that's some kind of B s that we're just gonna put aside because it's not true. But we're not going to talk about that today. We're going to give you a. Break from crazy US politics. And we're going to talk about something that's happening in Mexico City. Well, the top in Mexico City and and the country. Really? Yeah. And so like six months ago, we were in Mexico City. We did two live shows, and we did a recording with you any lay in Spanish, and we talked about women's rights in Mexico. Qualley sewn us. Eunice Guinness that adults video these days almost one hundred tells us when are you go get Georgi, they had Leprince Estonians his meeting on suf-, no solo million million Venezuela Meden, let two Baruch Mahmoud memorial Suda Iman Pakistan's who say America and an seriously liberal Larry that I had been waiting for the metoo movement to explode in Mexico. So that's what we want to talk about today. And we wanted to bring you any lay back and Emily soap. Anyway, you were born in Cuba raised in Miami. You've been in Mexico and working there for many years now and Emily born and raised in particular sued the like, bitterly Mexico in the south side of Mexico City, and the both of you have been following reporting on the me to Mexico movement for a long time. But then there's this other thing the timing of this topic money, a any task, you are you feeling you want to share your story. With our listeners. I mean just to make a long story short. I had a very uncomfortable situation in an airplane, and in the whole conversation that came up because of you know, men and their attitudes and kind of public space for women. And so I basically posted about being in a very uncomfortable situation where a man made multiple passes at me on the plane and then slept for most of the flight. But then but then ended up masturbating. And and I was you know, as women do it was like is this really happening. This couldn't be wait what you know. And then and we were about to land, which also complicated things, and there's a whole other element that I'm not even talk about that complicates things. But anyway, part of what ended up happening Julio is that there was a lot of love and support which was kind of really wonderful. But there was also a lot of people who were like well media. Why didn't you do this? And why didn't you do that? And did you report it? Didn't you get up? And why didn't you box him? Why didn't you hit him? And why don't you? And I was like, whoa. So I want everybody to know. I did therapy and this weekend. In fact, there was family therapy. Also that went on this was very triggering. I had a lot of really challenging moments. Also with friends people who are just like. Wow. You know, the fact that you talked about this and how you managed it. And then felt bad about coming forward and still managed it to me is also I guess a central conversation on trusting ourselves believe in what we're actually seeing. But also doing what feels right in the moment. And I know that there is protocol I did speak with the flight attendants there is protocol and so women on airplanes. Yeah. Speak to the flight attendant right away. Because frankly, apparently, it's happening more than we think that there are sexual improprieties and harassment going on with women in airplane. Yeah. It does try. Yeah. So and I'm sure it happens in right? I'm fine. I'm okay. Ok hard. I went boxing over the weekend. I did therapy. I worked out again, you know. So I'm feeling much better. And I'm writing. So I turned all of my rage into my work on into my writing this weekend. So we're we're gonna move into our topic. But thank you guys for listening and for all of your love. So a lot of my feminist consciousness came from my experience in Mahyco, they feminist does in Makiko esta there has been a long long trajectory, a feminist movements and women activists in Mexico for a long goddamn time. It didn't just start. Yeah. I remember we talked about that last time. Exactly. We did allowance. We talked about it in Spanish. Yeah. I mean, the intone says, but now, you know, there's a whole conversation. That's kind of expanded across industries like to include journalism and academia the business world with these new hashtag springing up like hashtag metoo excretory. His hashtag me to these after feminist activist. And I won Saturday's accused of male writer of abusing more than ten women. Then while some women came forward publicly there were also a lot of anonymous account. It's calling out sexual harassment assault and misconduct. So before we go any further, Emily, you were born and raised in Mexico City, you've been following in reporting on this issue closely. So can you give our listeners a quick update? How do we get to this point? And also, how is the Mexico metoo movement distinct from me to in the United States share? So I mean as you said, right? This sort of blew up over the past two weeks. But it's not there's some legacy. There's some history there. Right. And so they've been other accounts. Like, I remember in April sixteen there was other wave through the hashtag, I think it was twenty four a of just women telling their their stories of harassment. Yeah. My first harassment. Yes. And then there was jackass. Also. The different several right like throughout the throughout the years, kind of continual low grade like present, and it's been like a continuous low grade present, and I think part of what was missing in in those movements was dynamic to say a name. Right. So like there was this wave and people were just expressing their frustration and their stories, but they weren't denouncing people there won't make inaccurate stations. And I think that that would be a difference unle- unless late tell me if you think differently, but I think that would be like a a difference from like this historic wave that has been happening over the over the past two three three years, but another difference is that these accusations don't really target the elite, right? They don't really target Harvey Weinstein's of the world sometimes they did. But in general, it was, you know, women publishing or posting their stories of sexual harassment in the workplace. It started in the creative industries in the midwest thought us, and then it branched out into the world of academia into the world of of journalism into the world of filmmaker theater lawyers enterprises business, right? And so what ended up happening was that women were talking about the sexual harassment. They had received from their bosses, right? And these were men that sometimes we're in a position of power, but they weren't public figures a lot of the times. So then what happens in the last two weeks that basically makes this whole thing kind of take a whole other turn. Well, I agree with Emily. If for me, there are two main distinctions between the the metoo movement in Mexico, and in the United States, first of all I have been following up the mid to movement in the United States, and I'm sure you remember that cover of the time magazine. So you have a really famous people in the United States. Denouncing the really famous people. Yeah. And you have the press following up using the rules of the press. You have formal interviews. You have a fat check. And you have older all the president normal process of journalists coverage on another difference is that in the United States, even with all the problems, golden, I would just say you do it. So great in the show. If you are harassed for temple or you are you are right in the United States. It's so much easier that you have consequences that the people that may buy things to you have a consequence. But in Mexico, you have impunity of all the crimes not just this crimes the sexual crimes. So this is a big difference. But right now after Anna Gonzalez, as you told she made public this denounce on Twitter about hair somebody enough, which is a writer, and I remember the tweet she's at Muslims you follow this guy. But you should know that this guy has been doing, blah, blah, blah, blah after that. I remember, so well, I don't know him. But I know some people really close to him and after I was following up. And it was like maybe forty eight tower seventy two hours, and there was a lot of new accounts with a lot of women denouncing. A lot of things from different levels from rape to a harassment in the work. And most of them have to do it anonymously because they are so afraid to go to the authorities or they have been going to charities before they have formal denounces. But with no results some of the girls Humby denouncing for years in the work in front of the charities and nothing has happened. So this for me is our two main difference between the United States and the Mexican movement Benny light. But specifically because one of the things that came out of this was bet you'll east us, and we you know, we talked a little bit about, you know, sort of what it is to be a journalist when we did the first. S by Neil. But you know, how are people in the newsroom's our journalists are they talking about this since? Now, these accusations are coming out in the journalism world. I'm just curious. I said what you and your colleagues are talking about in Janis account. They have like different rules because we are Betty any stats. So they made a statement whether what are the rules for this for period Easter. So maybe they didn't put the name, but they know the name of the big team. So they know that Bickham exists that Israel made sometimes their previous announces before the authorities that never turn on anything. And this is is a I want to speak a little bit part in Spanish because I don't know this word in English for go for it. But it got Labrada. We talked about this on the other show that we are in Mexico City about what has been a journalist in Mexico. So if you are a journal is a woman journalist in state of. Of Mexico, not Mexico City in the rest of Mexico, and you weren maybe two hundred three hundred dollars a month. And I'm not kidding. That's for real. So you you earn three hundred dollars a month. You are a woman. You are John you are less than three years old and you'll receive a harassment inside the newsroom from your boss from a co working. What are your options? You don't have too many options because there are few newspapers in the in the city. So you you don't have really good options to move. You. Don't have a good savings. So you bury survive? So you have to be quiet. You have to keep silence. So you are in a lot of violence inside of your place of work, and you are going out every day telling stories about other people that maybe are suffering the same violence that you are suffering side the newsroom, but you can say anything because you can im- most of the cases you don't have a real option of quits dob and get. Another job because nobody wants a girl which is going there on denouncing. So they're not meeting. It's the only way you have to make public where do are have been suffering with our real an immediate consequence to your life to your Aaron's. And this is really polemic. A lot of girls has speak up inside a companies, for example, with a human resources person and the person from human resources told her, oh, they do anything that make makes him think that you wanna something. Well, you have relay short dresses. Wow. And that's from human resources. So so Emily, you know, given that context some people might say, well, then maybe talking about this on social media for Mexican women were making these anonymous accusations is actually a form of liberation right? It's finally giving them a sense of. Voice in place on the other hand. It's really challenging. We can't imagine what it's like to in a country like my own Mexico, a generalized violence, a generalized impunity. And then we know like something called femicide ride where you know, they just murder women. So this complicates things in terms of women coming forward. So what are your thoughts? It really really complicates things. And to connect that question with what you are asking who you like I can be like I've been in New York for almost a year and a half two years at this point, and this movement still reach to me, even though, you know, thousands of miles away from the epicenter of where this is happening right now. Right. Like when this sort of started to explode, I had male friends, I reach out like, and, you know, just ask me. Hey, this is happening. What are your thoughts? You know, they were like interested. And then, you know, I started to get messages from female journalists friends being like, hey, did you see this guy popped up? Oh, remember that creeper from work. Oh, he, you know, he's like he's posted there, you know. Like, it really like, it's it's a thing we're as journalists as writers and as members of the creative industries like we're involved in this in a very deep level, you know, statistics recent surveys mentioned that like seven out of ten women in media industries have been harassed or sexually abused at a certain point in their careers. So that just gives you like, you know, a a level of of just how pervasive this is. This isn't one case and everybody gets to talk about that one person right usually a male like two days ago. I went to lunch with a couple of of Latin American friends and Mexican and Venezuelan, and you know, they're writers here New York. And they were like, oh, yeah. One of their. Colleagues had pumped up. I don't know this person. But like his name had popped up. You know, and like last week, I had a friend visiting and we talked about this other guy that we both knew that had popped up like this is just very pervasive. And to talk about like connected with the fear of retaliation. Which is a very real fear. You know, I in conversation with with people like the anonymity question. Always pops up, you know, and and people questioned it under like, you know, this isn't fair because they're not giving they're not showing their face etcetera etcetera. Well, fossil allegations are very rare thing they range between two and ten percent, depending on the on the studies made so first of all you got to believe the victim, right? Because in ninety seven percent of the cases, they're not gonna be lying. Right. And Secondly, there was a journalist. I think it was like three years ago, an American journalist living in Mexico City. Her name is on the Dan Noel. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Her case was. Became very well known because she was walking around this. Well, no neighborhood called on this. When just dude ran over pulled her underwear down and kept on running. Well, she was like I'm not gonna stop here. And she found out who the man was and you know, sort of hunted him down and was like, you know, I want some sort of apology and she shared her story with the people from the podcast reply all because at that point. You know, like, my initial fear just became like rage. And I really wanted to get the guy. It turns out. She's not when she posted video Shamila starts hearing from all these women who are just as bad as she is thousands of tweets started pouring in faster than you can scroll. I mean, it's fifteen per second. It's just going, and you can't even read them all all these women across Mexico responding with their own stories of riffing violence. You know, it's like I was a proxy. I was like a vassal for all of this. Just impotence. I think is the thing. It's like shut man we've been silenced. But here's somebody who's talking. So like, go go, go go. You know? It's Dan the harassment the retaliation against her became so great. She had to leave the country. 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Yes, because they are so good, the chicken and potatoes. We had the other night were great. So all you in the thick listeners for eighty dollars off your first month of hellofresh, go to hellofresh dot com. Forward slash in the thick eighty and enter promo code in the thick. Eighty it's like receiving eight meals free. Go to hellofresh dot com. Forward slash in the thick eighty and enter promo code in the thick eighty. Hey, welcome back to the thick. I might gain a horse. I with my co host. Julia Ricardo Ella this week. We're joined by Bennie later meters. And Emily Gerona. Let's get back to the conversation of meat to make EKO in the context of femicide and gender violence in Mahyco, right and the widespread impunity and the lack of faith the general lack of faith in Mexico's Justice system. This is Senator Martha Lucia Michigan Moreno who heads up the gender equality commission, and she was talking with journalists garment ATI stagey about the metoo Mexico movement. They stick. They you'll say liberal is family me. And so. They Dennis almost sterile. Some similarly me though, Ila limit hints yet or not. I've LA they Melissa systemic who's the animals and. Check it by. He got the KOMO ready. A eight. Scuffle anonymous discusses no, I didn't see our audience kill. I don't moves has more. So creek translation why I love being bilingual bicultural right here. She said that she celebrates this moment. But also that this movement reflects the terrible Justice system that exists in Mexico, and that has allowed the violence against women to persist for years. So now, we're talking about social media and sort of the widespread use of it during this metoo movement, perhaps because there isn't this trust right in reporting abuses to authorities. So penny lay is social media tool for Justice. Is it effective is it what people are going to be using to combat sort of the larger cultural problems that have to do with with impunity and just the patriarchy in Mexico. Well, I think there is a really positive result of all of this. So far, it is that we are having this conversation. So we are talking about women. We are talking about violence against women. So we are having the conversation. First of all for me, this is excess because for too many years he makes he co we have been talking about violence. I'm a report I've been going to a lot of really dangerous places. He makes he co we have been talking about the violence about dinar core about a lot of things the maters, of course. But right now, we are also talking about the generalized, I really really common violence lie. Daily Beilin's against women. That are not let's say close to the NAR coord- close to the abuses of the charities like regular women that leave most in in CDs, medium on large CDC, Mexico. So. So for me, maybe Julio this is this kind of question for you. So most of my friends, my men men friends, they they have been told me in the last days, or is this real so Israel that knew everyone of you every women that I know have been suffering this kind of things sometime in their lives. And I was I was in meeting with some of my friends. Milder girlfriends on me, we were like, yeah. Of course, how do you know? So why are you so surprised that? So the man I realize apprised at there is they really don't know how on Generales this. So for me is really important. Also to be having a boy at common boys on the most of these girls have been real big tins has a strange to speak up and move forward with the formal denounces because they don't feel alone anymore. Every time you said me too as a public figure as an artist as a journalist, you said mitt to either believe you you are breaking the system because you are breaking a system for me in this system. And they Andre NOEL's case is an excellent example of that is so was a woman's fault. So if you get rape in the night or get killed at demeaned rate as merica CEO in Paula while you were going to your home in the night in a new verse. Or another kind of taxi was a cabbie FAI is because of your fault because you were a woman being a London meter of the night with address, so it's always your fault. But when it's a big tin of violence is never a folk his fault for being a men in. Our case is always our full for winner woman. There is a lot of focus on the women. I have to say and again having just gone through this kind of got the social media love. But also the criticism. Yes. But I saw the Twitter feeds people were like you were the subject, you know, what I'm saying. Yes, it definitely feels strange. But the thing is is that. You know as journalists anonymity and providing anonymity for people. You know, the whole idea as journalists we kind of take a Hippocratic oath, which is do no harm. Right. So you don't wanna bring harm to anyone in the process, although if people have been abusing their power they have to kind of be called out so on Thursday of last week hashtag meet to escalate daughters, which means me to writers released a statement via Twitter on the issue of anonymity. And they said our mission is to underscore impunity. Which in Mexico stands at an alarming rate of ninety five percent. This is an absolute imbalance of power that benefits perpetrators. I think that's really important to point out. Like when you understand that with impunity. What is basically doing is you are allowing perpetrators to run free. Then they continue saying we guard the testimonies of women by protecting their 'unanimity. So that they won't be criminalised or attacked again. We don't want anyone's life to be at risk. So I'm just wondering how you on the question of anonymity. And many of these women who have come forth have down death threats. Yeah, they themselves. Yeah. Yeah. So really the most is right. It's a very complicated process. Because just just the issue of the word anonymous, right and the anonymity which gets thrown around. And I think yes, anonymity is one way to look at it. But through my reporting, I was talking to some some journalists and there were like, right? They made the distinction that at least for the accounts have been transparent with the way, they're handling this information such as the journalists account, boom. That's when he does make NS and the Twitter handle is at least. S p u m or the meatless can throw it is there have been others that have been astronauts parent, but at least for the accounts that have been very transparent in how they're handling the information. The denounces aren't anonymous. They're confidential big difference. So so I'm actually wrong, then we shouldn't have been using the term. It's anonymous for the public. But really, it's it's confidential in the sense that so at least the journalists Twitter handle its collective right in it's around fifteen and twenty women, and when they get the denounces through their DMZ through their through their messages, they verify that the person making the claim first of all Israel exists did work where she said to was working. And they do the same thing for the person that is being accused they verify that that person is real. And you know, there's his affiliation process that is taking place. But when they published the denounce, they emit the neighbor they redact the name of the person that is being accused. Was opposed that came up last week from esteemed journalist award winning Mexican journalists blunt bit that each and a friend of mine, by the way and blanche bit reach basically said I mean, it was a long post, but she basically said I'm having some issues here. I'm getting really worried about the fact that you know, that a lot of these accusations are coming out that they are not necessarily verified that there's a, you know, maybe some are taking advantage. You know, there was the whole conversation about focusing on the suicide of a musician who had to accusations Mondo Vega. He'll he died by suicide after denying anonymous acusations, the coverage of the fact that people are focusing on his suicide as opposed to the women survivors got also very interesting because it's like if he oh my God. It just gets, you know, if he had mental health issues, and all of a sudden, it's because of this that that that he committed suicide it. Gets very confusing. Although I did re post what blanche with rich road Finney lay your reaction to what blanche said in the kind of pulling bag and. And what do you think is going to be the future? Well, blanche she's not a friend of mine, but I know that she's one of the most admired Mexican journalists. And she has been an example about what a woman as a splash can doing the journalists. So first of all, I have my hair at my her her work, but I don't agree with this ten so. So I wrote an article last week about a professor I professor was accused. Several months ago, and he but he has been fighting against accusation saying that is false. So he has been fighting in inside a university. But he lost a now his trying to to do it outside the university. So I wrote it about that too. Made an example of what happened and an amusing this to respond Maria the branch patriarchal what happened at turn aquisition? We have been focusing on. How to do the accusation is confidential this anonymous eighty they have previews announces Sadr? But right now, we have the movement. We have a lot of new cases what to do after that how to move forward. So my article was about the hypocrisy Assam Tom of things. Nations. Once they are in the middle of the moon thin, and they receive cases how the process those cases. How to make sure that you are not? You are not letting out for example, professor wishes. Not did not rape anybody. Hurt us anybody. So first of all you have to you have to bright, I agree with Emily. You have to you have to believe the victim. But Atra you had to do two things. I think first of all you have to really really be sure that if you are letting out a professor journalists from our newsroom of from a university or cetera. You have to make sure that it is true. I think that we own that two men and women that believe in the movement and second of all you have to make protocols on make sure that the protocols are in the knowledge of everybody because most of the people have been interviewing less days set, most of they men they told me, oh, I didn't know that I can say a girl, which is in my class that she's pretty and I was like that's obvious for me. But I said I didn't. No that was bad. Maybe if you believe that let let's say you believe that. But if you have as a school as university, you have a protocol to prohibit it, he can say, everyone can say, I didn't know he was wrong. So and the girl can say I felt harassed. So they're really obese cases like Maria told us about the plane, but there are other cases that there, they're no so obvious. So it is important to have rules and follow the rules and be really serious about their investigations. And this is why I don't agree with lunch because I don't think like is a really good danger of olive is on we have to stop it. Because you can't you can be an injustice and everything because thin is really really success to be having this conversation in the first place. And for our final segment. Let's take a quick temperature check. So I mean, this is it's weird for me to be asking. Because it's like, I am a woman journalist, masking fellow woman journalist. And I'm a survivor, and I just went through this kind of very public experience. Yeah. Benny lay your acumen journalist who works and lives in Mexico. Emily, you're a Mexican journalists who right now works and lives in New York. But we'll probably end up in Mexico. So I guess let's just start with you. Benny lay to this. Oh, said temperature check. How are you feeling about this whole kind of movement and moment, miss thaw? This new that I felt naked. I like. One of the things that I don't know if Emily agrees with this. But this kind of movement the kind of public conversation Maria it make us feel us. We men like you are not alone. You know that this what happened to me? Maybe last week a maybe ten years ago that I said, maybe it was not that bad. Maybe I'm exaggerating. Maybe is walls my foot right now. You don't feed our long, you feel like this parts of general, I spot balance? So you can speak up. You can let your own memories to flow up. I have been remembering some other since some other moments in my career is it is not he's eager to be Accu one journalists in Mexico twenty years old cover in oil industry. My I work whilst covering oil industry. So I was. I Cuba n- Garum twenty years old covering all industry, Mexico. So it was hard. I had a lot of them. But common said I didn't like and most of the time. I let them pass. I didn't. I said like, well, it's the way it is. But what I'm really happy right now is we can say together. It is not the way it is. It is not the way has to be your temperature. Check. Emily. Definitely I agree with this past week was was a hard one emotionally. You know, it was a week where like I just kept having memories from reporting and just sort of bubble up to the surface, and then talking with with friends and colleagues just other memories would come up, and and how to deal with those memories is it's definitely a process, and I think in this entire process. I just. Think that there are collectives and women are organizing to take this a step further. Right. I don't think this is just going to stay with the accusations. And the hashtag, I think definitely there there is this battle to do implement structural changes and hold the government and institutions that hire these people, women and male accountable. But I also think that for this conversation to really get to a place where change can happen. You know, like men need to come into it. You know, and they need to come into it in in a way that we can have a conversation about what are these entrenched violences that we have as a culture, right? My fear, and I don't I don't think this echoes blanche Bedrich concerns, but there's a little bit of that. There is I think that this movement would fail. If it polarize is opinions in like and makes it a male versus female thing. And I hope it doesn't come to that. Because then it'll be more complicated to sort of get to reconciliation, man. You know what I'm feeling? I'm feeling so many things, you know, I figured like I've thought about what just happened to me. And I'm like this person. I don't really want to spend a lot of time thinking about this, man. But you know, maybe he thought it was a joke or whatever, and it has created such a ripple effect in my life, you know, opening old wounds. The fact that I decided to public. Post this and the kind of reaction has created a, you know, within my social media community a lot of people kind of reliving their own experience and people close to me sane. They couldn't even speak to me because they spent the whole day just kind of in tears. Yeah. So it's like, you know, these men who kind of do these things with like. Yeah. Whatever. And it's like they don't realize and they don't give a shit about the kind of ripple effect. And what it does to us as women because most of us are moving in a world where we want to have trust and an equality. I also I am a dear friend of blanche, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for her. So I'm kind of listening and again spent the whole weekend kind of dealing with this with my family. My husband, my, you know, and then just also so much love. So what Benny lay says about when we speak out? It's scary. But I have to say just so many people men and. Women. Speaking out on social media did help. All right. Vanilla media's investigator reporter with ABC on an Emily good on a freelance journalist and digital intern right here at through media. Thank you both for joining me on this important addition of in the fick, I was so happy to be here. I love this. Thank you ask you follow. Thank you Bye-bye. I'm Jana wholesome, and I'm not gonna worry. Lauren. An remember dear listener, it takes just a second. Would you go to apple podcasts to rate and review because it really helps other listeners to find us because they trust what you say. And you know, you can listen to us on Pandora or on. 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DISAPPEARED: Louis Le Prince

Supernatural with Ashley Flowers

40:24 min | 1 year ago

DISAPPEARED: Louis Le Prince

"Lula prints stood on the train platform in Dijon France. He was furious, still shaking from a screaming match with his brother about his work just weeks before he had perfected, what would become the most important invention of the early twentieth century, the motion picture camera, but his brother still called him a failure to his face. Well Louis was going to prove him wrong. He would travel from Paris to New York City show his invention to the world and write himself into the history books. He'd be rich and famous, and his family would never want for anything again. The train pulled into the station at two thirty nine PM and Louie La Prints stepped on. But, the weird thing is no one actually saw him on the train. In fact, no one ever saw him again. This is supernatural. Apar- cast original and I'm your host. Ashley Flowers every Wednesday I'll be taking a deep dive into a real unexplained occurrence to try and figure out the truth. You can find all episodes of supernatural all other podcast originals for free on spotify, and if you like what you're hearing, reach out on facebook and Instagram at our cast and twitter at podcast network. This week we're looking at the eighteen ninety disappearance of inventor Louis Auguste on the prints. We'll have that and more coming up. Stay with us. Safer beauty shouldn't mean sacrificing results that make you look and feel your best. Since two thousand thirteen beauty counter, the leader and clean has gone beyond claim to create innovative and high performing products that are safer for you and your family shop, beauty counter dot com now to get twenty percents off your first purchase with the Promo Code podcast. That's twenty percents off your first order, beauty counter dot com with the code podcast. Truly sour bright crawlers are sour gummy worms. That can't wait to be eaten. These soft fruity, Gumy's love to be chewed Shaam nod honor anything that gets their delicious bodies in your mouth visit truly dot com to find an online retailer store near you. So to get to the heart of this story I'm going to need you to bear with me for two minutes while we talk about a little history. Because today we're going back to kind of a strange time. The latter half of the nineteenth century and the second industrial revolution it was a time of invention photography fee. Electrical wiring automobiles telephone the LIGHTBULB. All these monumental leaps emerged in a span of a few decades, but underneath the surface, the world of invention looked more like the wild west than the image of the dutiful scientists toiling away in his workshop. This was because of one thing alone. Ownership inventing something meant nothing. If you couldn't prove it was your idea in a court of law. One poorly were patent and years of hard work could go down the drain because other opportunists Hoop Din. For decades, one man was the most successful outlaw in the wild west of Invention Thomas Edison today we credit Edison with an obscene amount of inventions, the light bulb, the motion picture camera the modern telephone, just to name a few, but Edison wasn't necessarily in some laboratory, tinkering away with his brilliant original ideas in reality, he had a secret weapon patents because half of those inventions. I just mentioned Edison didn't actually come up with them. He used other people's ideas as a jumping off point and put his own spin on them. Then once he improved on someone's invention. He filed as many patents as he could so that he didn't just own the technology. He owned every piece that made up that technology. He even patented future ideas. That weren't yet possible just so that if someone came up with it down the road, Edison could say that he thought of it first. But Edison wasn't just tenacious in filing patents. He was also ruthless about enforcing that. He chased down anyone and everyone who infringed on his filings. It didn't matter if the inventor was brilliant. Bankrupt or whatever the consequences the result was always the same. If you stand in Edison's way, you will face his wrath, and all of this brings us to today's story and the motion picture camera. Obviously when it's first being developed Edison wants in, but Edison didn't actually invent the video camera. Louie La Princeton Louis didn't start out as an inventor. He was actually an artist, but his family was well off, so was raised with a complete education, eventually studying chemistry at Leipzig University. This combined background of art and science made him a natural inventor. At one point. He took a job working on panoramic paintings, and these were kind of a vad of the time. Basically it's this giant painting that was the size of an entire room viewer stood in the middle of the room, and from their vantage point, it felt like they were immersed in a very lifelike scene. And this planted a seed in Louis, what if you could actually relive something? What if you could capture a moment in time and replay it for someone else to experience now? Obviously what Louis was imagining is a video camera, or in Victorian speak a motion picture camera. He's not the only person trying to invent this at this time, but he does have a pretty revolutionary way of going about it. We don't need to get into all the science, but basically has to do with frame rate Louise trying to capture eighteen frames per second, which is totally radical idea. Idea for eighteen, eighty five, but to do this. Louis has to develop a camera that is capable of capturing sixteen images every second. Then he has to make a projector that can display sixteen images. A second nothing like this existed at the time. Film didn't even come in strips yet, so Lewis Thinking is light years ahead of what everyone else is doing, and he knows it so to protect his idea. Louis keeps everything he's working on completely under wraps. He doesn't let anyone into his workshop, not even his own children and he won't file a patent mentioning the. The sixteen frames per second until he's certain of his unique design, he works on it for over a year then finally, in November of eighteen, eighty six Louis feels confident enough to move forward with the patent. The machine isn't perfect, but it's close enough that he feels protected, but for months Louis Battles with the patent office his lawyers go back and forth with the agency, rephrasing and amending clause after clause of the patent is just basically a series of delays, and by the spring of eighteen, eighty seven. Louis still doesn't have his patent, and at first he thinks. Thinks okay well. You know this is a complex idea. Maybe they're just not getting it. But as the months dragged on Louis becomes more and more suspicious after being so careful for so long, he realizes the horrible truth. Someone at the patent office is feeding his idea to a rival inventor her now he'd heard rumours about this that for the right price, agents in the patent office would slip other inventors copies of new patent applications that looked promising, but hadn't actually been approved yet. Then they would delay the original filings until the competition could complete their own paperwork. Louis knew that he was sitting on a gold mine here and it made him insanely paranoid about being scooped so fearing the worst he packed up his workshop, and sailed to England in April of eighteen, eighty, seven, leaving his wife Lizzie, and his kids back in New York, he could stay with some of Liz's family in Leeds, while he finished tinkering with the machine, he'd file another set of patents with the British government and hope that that would be. Be? Enough to protect himself once he was in Leeds. Louis only became more secretive about his work. He made sure that his workshop was far away from where he was living so that he couldn't be easily followed from one to the other, he installed heavy shutters on every window of the shop to keep unwanted is out and he put extra bolts on the workshop door the whole time he's looking over his shoulder, keeping an eye out for spies. In January of eighteen, eighty eight, the pieces are finally falling into place for Louis the US patent office issues his patent. He had to make some adjustments in the language to get it through, but he lets it go. The UK patents will back him up if push comes to shove, but Louis feels like his real protection is in the invention itself. Because by that fall, his motion picture camera is working beautifully Louise actually able to shoot three short films the first. First, motion picture films ever made their simple, not even a minute each, but the camera works, and we have the surviving film strips as proof. He writes lizzy back in New York. It won't be long now, but his optimism was short lived. It was one thing to shoot the films. It was an entirely different matter to project them and again this whole experiment was about creating an immersive experience until Louis could project life size images of his films. He wasn't done. So he goes back to his workshop. It takes another two years before the projector comes together, but Louis is persistent in the summer of eighteen ninety. He writes again two lizzy. He plans to sail to New York at the end of September and arrived in the US the first week of November, eighteen ninety. When he gets there, they can finally toast his success after five long years of work but I. HE decides to travel to France to see his brother Albear. You See. Their mother had passed away three years earlier. Earlier, but the brothers hadn't had a chance to execute her will, so before he went back across the Atlantic. Louis wanted to properly settle the inheritance with Albert at the end of August. He goes to France now. He's traveling with some friends. The Wilson's partways on Friday. September twelfth eighteen ninety. Louis heads to dijon to see his brother and the wilsons go to see a cathedral in Borsch. They agree to meet back in Paris on Tuesday the sixteen and together they'll take the night boat from Paris back to London. A man named Christopher Rawlins research. Lula Prince's disappearance extensively in his book, the missing real he highlighted this trip to Dijon as a key moment in solving the mystery because according to him, the visit didn't go well for three days. Albert avoided Louis claiming that he was too busy with work to meet with him. It wasn't until the final day of Louis visit the sixteenth that the brothers actually spoke Louis. Louis insisted that Albert make time for him. Before he took the noon train to Paris when they sat down for an early lunch Louis immediately brought up the will. Their mother had left him one thousand pounds, and he was here to collect the money. Albert knew that this was coming. This is why he'd spent the whole weekend avoiding Louis. He wanted to wait until the last possible moment to refuse him. As far as was concerned, Louis had already gotten more than his fair share of their mothers money when she was still alive. She paid for his education. She'd given him several loans over the years Albert didn't think Louis deserved any more money. He was just going to waste it on more failed experiments. Naturally Louis was pissed. It wasn't Albert decision to keep his inheritance. He was legally entitled to it, but Albert stood his ground. He wasn't giving Louis. Adine the brothers argued all through lunch. They were so engrossed in their fight Louis, actually missed the noon train to Paris. He'd have to take the next one leaving two and a half hours later when Albert delivered to the. The train station that afternoon they were still arguing. Their disagreement was so loud in heated that they drew, stares from the other travelers waiting on the platform, but at two thirty nine, the train arrived at the station, letting out a great cloud of steam. By the time it cleared, the brothers had gone their separate ways, and that was the last time anyone saw look prince. We'll follow the LA- Prince Families Search for answers right after this. Have, you ever felt like you have to choose between beauty products that are safe and those that actually work. Luckily, you don't have to sacrifice safety for results. Thanks to beauty counter since two thousand thirteen beauty counter has been the leader in clean. In fact, they go beyond claim through their safety, transparency, sustainability and advocacy, but back to results. If you want hardworking clean beauty that helps you wake up glowing tribe beauty counters night resurfacing. Peel this. This bestselling treatment is clinically proven to boost skins, radiance and help improve its texture while you sleep in a clinical trial. One hundred percent of participants agreed that their skin felt and looked smoother. Beauty counter believes that beauty should be good for you. 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They waited and waited for La Prince to show up, but when it's time for the boat to leave. He still not there, and it's odd I mean they'd all been pretty clear about their plan, but the Wilson's kind of shrug it off. They knew on the verge of debuting his new invention, so they think maybe. Maybe. He just got tied up with business or something, so they get on the boat home and figure that Louis will follow after on his own, but of course we know he doesn't. No one hears from him for weeks, but even then they don't really realize he's missing because he's supposed to be sailing across the Atlantic to join his family in new. York, so his wife Lizzie doesn't think it's odd that she's not getting any letters or telegrams i. I mean. She thinks he literally can't send any right now. And it's during this limbo when no one yet realizes Lewis missing that Lizzie guts of visitor about a week before he was expected to arrive in New York, a strange man rang the doorbell. He introduced himself as Mr Robes and he wanted to speak to Louis. lizzy apologize and explain that her husband wasn't home. He's in Europe and Mr Rose seen surprised by this like he didn't believe her. Her. He kept kind of like shifting in the way trying to look over lizzy shoulder down the hallway. Well, when would Louis Back? He asked he needed to speak with him. The whole thing made lizzy really uncomfortable. She knew how much Louis worried about spies and now right before he's going to unveil his work. This weird guy shows up on their doorstep, so she keeps her answers. Kind of vague Louis won't be back until November. She tells him. Rose frowned, took another look over her shoulder, and then finally just turned and left Lizzy was rattled by the whole situation, but she let it go for now. When we got home, she would tell him all about it. Lewis opposed to arrive on November third eighteen, ninety, so lizzie and the children all went down to the doctor. Greet him by now I mean it had literally been three years since they had last seen it. They were so excited. The ship door opened and hundreds of people stream down the gangplank. Lizzy and the children's scan the crowd for Louis. He's six four, so he's fairly easy to spot in a crowd, but person after person keeps filing out and. And they don't see him, but Lizzie reassures the kids. Lizzie Father Joseph was supposed to be traveling with him, and he was in bad health and used a wheelchair, so she says you know they're probably waiting to come out until the crowds clear, and just like she says when the crowd dies down, she spots her father in a wheelchair on the gangplank. lizzy in the kids rush over to greet him, but they see that the man pushing Joseph's. Isn't Louis one of lizzie cousins. Apparently, he'd made the journey in Louise Place to take care of Joseph and lizzy stunned by this. Where is her husband? Joseph tells them not to worry. He says that Louis was delayed in France on business. Basically, he's right behind them on another ship and he should be here in a matter of days. So here's this explanation get. He's delayed on business. It's not clear why Joseph is convinced that this is what's going on. We don't know if he just thinks that. Because that's what he heard from the Wilson's, or if he actually got some kind of message from Louis, himself, whatever the source of the explanation, Joseph took it as fact, he packed up as planned and sailed for New York fully believing that his son in law would be on the next boat right behind him, but Lizzie doesn't accept this explanation at all. If Louis had been delayed, he would've written her. It doesn't make any sense. Two weeks go by, and still there's no sign of Louis. By this point, lizzy hasn't heard from her husband since the middle of August rape. Before he went to France, she sends an emergency telegram to his address in leads. Come immediately, father gravely ill, no matter how busy he is with work. That's something that he'd definitely respond to. When Liz still doesn't hear anything from him. She knows without a doubt that something terrible has happened to Louis. She sends another emergency telegram to her brother John who lives in London Louis is missing. She needs his help. John Inglis, lose brother Albert loud prints to help together. They systematically check every hospital morgue and asylum in Leeds, London Paris and John and everywhere in between be place ads in every French newspaper, the even check with the office of the French, Legion maybe Louis lost his mind and tried to enlist, but they're all dead ends. When Lewis Assistant here's what's going on. He immediately suspects that this has something to do with the invention. He needs to check. Louis Workshop to see if the camera is missing, but he doesn't have a key, so he goes to lose apartment. An ask the landlady to let him inside. There's a spare key to the workshop in the apartment. And initially the landlady's like no way I'm not letting some stranger in rummage through my stuff, but he begs her and begs her until she finally lets him in. The assistant goes to Louise Workshop fearing the worst, but he finds everything in order exactly as it should be the camera, the projector, the short films. They're all neatly packed up waiting to be shipped to New York. But this doesn't make lizzy prince feel any better. It actually makes her feel worse. If someone was after the camera, but they hadn't been able to find it maybe took something else instead like the person who built the camera. In mid November she find something that might support this theory while John and Albert had been scouring England and France. lizzy has been desperately combing through the passenger manifest of every ship that docked in New York from Europe. Eventually on one of the list, she finds a passenger listed as L. Loop Rinse. The manifest says that he's a twenty seven year old farmer by trade, but that doesn't deter lizzy to horror. It's more proof that this L.. The prince is her husband. Listing a fake as an occupation was exactly the kind of thing he would do to throw potential spies off his trail, so she goes to the bar office registered to check bear list as well any US citizens who arrived at the dock have to pass through the registers. Before, they're allowed into the country. The register makes a list of everyone that comes through each day now. The boat manifest that she had just seen his name on had only just docked that morning, so it should be fairly easy to find Louis on this list, but his name is they're. The only explanation that the register has for this. Is that for some reason? Louis never got off the boat. He must still be on board. It's going to set sail again the next morning, so Lizzie has to move fast. She goes home and grabs every picture she has of Louis. She brings her oldest son Adolf back with her to the dock, and these show the photos to every crew member of the ship that they can't desperate to find someone who recognizes Louis, but no one does they're just met with shrugs and annoyance and the next morning the ship. Ship sails back to Europe lizzy is understandably crushed by this development for a brief moment, she'd found her husband, and now he'd been ripped away again, and she's overwhelmed by this emotional whiplash from another dead end then a few days after this incident, someone rang the bell at the Prince's home in New York lizzy hope that whoever was at the door, had news about her husband, but it was just a man selling milk. She politely declined. You know, thank you no milk today, but the milkmen just stood there on the steps. He wouldn't take no for an answer. Then, he said. I want to see Mr La. Prints suddenly lizzy recognized this man. It was Mr Rose back again. 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Prince immediately recognized him, and she was dead set on not telling him anything about Louis, not where he was or not, even where he wasn't for that matter, she gave the same vague answer as before. He's in Europe, but Mr Rose demanded again. Where is your husband? Lizzy told the man to leave immediately, or she was going to call police, but he insisted. WHERE IS MR LA PRINTS? And what is he doing now? What did he mean? Did he know about the camera? How is it even possible terrified? lizzy yelled into the house for her children, telling them to come quickly when they appeared in the hallway. Mr Rose fled the second appearance of Mr. Rose was too much for Lizzie to ignore. It was time to go to the police. But as it turned out, the law wasn't on Lizzie side when she explained the situation to an officer named Captain Williams. He said there was only one way they could help her. She had to accused Louis of crying and Lizzy was baffled like. Did she not explain what's going on correctly? Her husband was missing. He was the victim, not a criminal and Captain William Said No. I understand that just fine, but apparently during the time it was against the law for police to look for. For someone unless they're Mugshot was hanging on the wall of suspected criminals, and they couldn't put up Louis picture until he was accused of something Williams, assures lizzy listen. This would just be a formality. You don't need to accuse him of a felony. Maybe just accused him of desertion, but lizzie outright refused her husband was missing, and now they wanted her to drag his name through the mud. She walked out of the police station. Feeling like everyone in the world was conspiring against her. Then a few months later, the conspiracy was all but confirmed in May of eighteen ninety one just over six months after Louis. Disappeared Thomas Edison unveiled a new invention. It was a motion picture camera for the entire La Prints family. It felt like the other shoe had finally dropped for years. They'd worried about spies about rival inventors about how far one of these cutthroat competitors might go to get their hands on this revolutionary technology now only six months after Lula prince disappeared one of the most notoriously. In. The game debuted arrival camera. There could only be one explanation Edison, had to be connected to Louis disappearance. Years earlier when he was packing up his work to move to Leeds. Louis had given lizzy instructions on what to do. If it seemed like a spy had gotten their hands on his invention, he told her that if anything unusual happened, she needed to go to his patent lawyer. Clarence seward so the morning after Lizzie I heard about Edison's motion picture camera. She went to seward's office. Just like Louis had instructed, but he wasn't there. He was actually in court that day. The clerk told Lizzie that seward was in the middle of a big case. He was defending Thomas Edison. That realization punched. Was He in the Gut? seward was in bed with the enemy. He was supposed to be her lifeline, but now I mean. Was it possible that he was the leak? She left seward's office immediately and never returned everything that Louis predicted everything that he'd feared had come true. A few days later decided that she was going to take on Edison and make sure her husband got credit for his invention. She brought all his paperwork to a different patent lawyer. Feeling confident that it would all be resolved soon, but the lawyers hands were tied. To protect the interest of inventors, their mandatory waiting period of seven years in a missing person's case until Louis was legally declared dead, he was the rightful owner of the patents was he couldn't act on his behalf until the waiting period expired in eighteen, ninety seven, or until they found Louis Body. lizzy couldn't believe this. It felt like Edison had beaten her at every turn with the police with. With the lawyer with the patent, Juban hold together for the last six months because she had a purpose, she had to find. Lewis you had to protect his vision and keep fighting, but now she just felt broken, not only had she lost her husband. She lost everything they've been working toward for years. How much had they sacrificed for this? And in a blink? It was all just gone. No one ever found any trace of Lula prints. When the seven year waiting period elapsed, lizzy hired the best patent lawyer she could find and tried to prove that her husband was the rightful inventor of the motion picture camera, but by that time Edison wasn't the only rival that she had to contend with several other men had developed cameras and projectors. By this point, the legal battles that followed became known as the war of the patent as it happened so many times before Edison, and his army of lawyers eventually came out on top, and Louis was denied any credit. Lizzy went to her grave in nineteen twenty, five convinced that Thomas Edison was somehow responsible for her husband's disappearance, so what actually happened was Lula Prince, the victim of just cutthroat tactics. I mean it's a compelling. In the timing alone has to make you suspicious, but it's not actually very likely the fact that Edison debuted his own camera soon after Louis went missing was probably just a coincidence, there were a ton of people trying to develop a motion picture camera. In the late eighteen hundreds Louis had a unique approach, but it wasn't a unique idea. It was very much in the site geist. In addition to Lula. Prints and Thomas Edison Bear were the Lumiere Brothers, Robert, Paul and William Friese Greene all working on the same kind of camera, and just made more noise about his. So what about the fact that Louis Lawyer Clarence seward was working with Addison Well Edison worked with most patent lawyers in the city. He was constantly in court for his various inventions. We don't know what seward was defending Edison on. Because lizzy never asked him. She was too convinced that he was the enemy. It was easier for Lizzie to believe that Edison was responsible because he had an established reputation for ruthlessness. If anyone was going to do something to harm her husband for profit, it was him. But there are two things to keep in mind. First Edison had literally hundreds of patents to his name. The camera was just one of them, and frankly it was one of the ideas that he was the least interested in. He didn't see much commercial value. Most of the work on Edison's camera was done by another inventor in his lab. William Dickinson and Dickinson eventually left Edison's company because he didn't think his work was being taken seriously enough. Most of the work on Edison's camera was done by another inventor in his lab William. William Dixon and Dixon eventually left Edison's company because he didn't think his work was being taken seriously enough, so the idea that Edison was so invested in the future of movies that he would track down Louie la Prince kidnap him, ship him back to America and keep him what like squirrelled away in his lab until he made an Edison version of his camera. Just it doesn't seem super likely. The sheer amount of manipulation involved is kind of impossible. I mean Louis traveling all over the French countryside before he went missing had. Men tailed him the entire time and remember. Lizzy had showed her husband's picture to every crew member of the ship that she could find. What are the odds that Edison could have managed to keep them all quiet if Louis had actually been on that ship. I think this rumor persists because it's just a neat explanation, we understand greed gives us closure to the story, but I don't think it's likely. So, what other explanations do we have over the years? A lot of theories have been proposed, but none of them really fit the whole picture. I mean remember Mr. Rose Lizzy thought that he was a spy for Thomas. Edison but others have proposed that he was. Louise Secret Lover They. Don't think Louis disappeared, but basically they think he abandoned his family to avoid being outed as gay, but this is based on the claim of one historian, so I'm not sure how much weight we can put on it. It doesn't really match the picture we have of Louis and Lucy's relationship. Some people think that Albert loud prints murdered his brother after their fight over the inheritance, but this theory falls apart from me. When you consider the motive, they were arguing over a thousand pounds. Now that's not an insignificant number that'd be close to the hundred thirty thousand pounds today, but after Louis went, missing Albert launched an extensive exhaustive search. He traveled all over France for months and that must have. have been expensive. If he killed him for that money, he'd have almost immediately spent it, but the inheritance does also play into another theory by eighteen, eighty, nine Louis was swimming in debt. Some researchers estimate that was close to eighty five thousand dollars today. He needed the inheritance money to dig himself out and refused him. Maybe he was forced to disappear so that he could get away from creditors. But if that was the reason, what about the invention, I mean again. He had a goldmine sitting back in his workshop. He just needed to get it to America so he could cash in especially because we know, the machine worked I mean we have surviving short films as proof. In two thousand and three, a researcher in Paris thought that they had finally solved the mystery while digging through the archive of the police station, they reportedly found a photograph of a man who was pulled out of the Sende river a week after Louis went missing in eighteen, ninety two the researcher. This dead man looked a lot like Louie la prints. So maybe Louis had been dead this whole time. Remember on the day he disappeared. Louis was supposed to take an earlier train and sail back to London that night, but he missed the train and the boat. He didn't get to Paris until just before midnight, maybe in the dark streets of Paris, he got mugged or murdered, but will never know for sure. So. Why are we still wondering where Louis went after all these years? Why does this case still tug at us? I mean it's the circumstances. He disappeared right after completing the camera, he was about to literally right his name into history books, and there's also the fact that he seemingly disappeared into thin air. People remember seeing him on the platform in Dijon, but no one saw him. Get off the train in Paris. And, we're not just talking about the passengers. We're talking about the attendance to mean these people's jobs to make note of everyone on the train, so the question becomes. Where could he possibly gone beyond that? You can't help but ask the more romantic questions about his disappearance. What if he'd been able to present his camera to the world? What other inventions would he have made? I think it's kind of a wistful longing that keeps people hunting for answers. We want Louis to be rewarded for his hard work. Ironically one of the hallmarks of Thomas. Edison's career was his knack for taking credit for things even when he had nothing to do with them even today he's still deeply woven into Lula prince's story. Even he probably had nothing to do with his disappearance. But just to play devil's advocate, I'll leave you with one final thought from lizzy. Once she was able to use her husband's patents in court. She was involved in a big case against Thomas Edison. The American Muda Scope Company was trying to prove that Edison wasn't the first person to invent the motion picture camera. They didn't so much. Want Lula Prince to get credit as they wanted Edison to lose control over the patent, so day could produce cameras. Adolfo Prince worked with AMC's lawyers to help build a case. He testified about his father's work and even showed stills from his short films. In the end AMC lost the case and Edison retained his iron grip on the industry and adult felt like he'd failed his father's 'cause all over again. A year after the case concluded adult died from a gunshot wound. It was determined to be a hunting accident, but that explanation never sat right with Lizzie out off was an experienced gunman, and he'd never had any kind of accident in all of his years of hunting. Now. It is possible that he could have taken his own life after the disappointing outcome of the trial, but to Lizzie. It felt like retribution from the Edison Camp One more reminder to the leprince family that the ruthless Hamas. Was always watching? And he held their fate in his hands forever. Thanks for listening. I'll be back next week with another episode. 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Chiropractic Bouncing Back from the Pandemic with Dr. Dave Hansen

Breaking the Underdog Curse

31:39 min | 1 year ago

Chiropractic Bouncing Back from the Pandemic with Dr. Dave Hansen

"Welcome to the vitality shift podcast for Chiropractors I I'm your host Dr Dawn McDonald author of the bestselling book the Underdog Curse weekly we will be interviewing amazing records from around the world finding out how they made their vitality ship. If your car roger that either wants to just move your practice away from treating pain and conditions or if you just want to stay inspired, this podcast is review for more formation on those reason is www dot Dr Dawn McDonald, Dot Com, and I hope you enjoy the show. Well hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the by tally ship. Astor characters is the doctor Don mcgahn, your host, and get the take a a fly over. It will not literally fly because we are not allowed to yet but going to Illinois United States and I have a return. Yes. If you WANNA listen to his. His origin story ED recommend going back to www dot dr dot com and look Dr e Hansen, and he talks about his whole how you got into Chiropractic and all this. Kinda stuff. But I WANNA to get him on this podcast diseases that he's one of the members of our new mastermind group that we just put together this year, and he just happened to lake have his record July and and and that's pretty amazing. right now is there's a lot of people working with doing like having the records. After all the pandemic and there's lots actors who are like really struggling because it's after the pandemic or trying to do is trying to get the nuggets of the people that are doing really well to share them with all the listeners can hopefully help as many factors as we can. So welcome back to the ask Dr, date. Thank you for heavily backs it'd be here. This is awesome. So So how does it feel like I will we're going to kind of that transition 'cause I know it was not. It was not an easy transition that you went through last night bright three or four months. Lake tell us a little bit about how felt Having all those records in July when the whole world is. Crashing and burning. Well, in a word good. But I know brand would say that's not a feeling. Only she read. It was. At first. It was Kinda bewildered because we weren't. Doing a lot of things that were fundamentally different but. We've just had a much lower kind of relaxed atmosphere here lately and. Gosh I guess it was just central relief to see that That the demand for what we do is not only still high, it's higher and that's with the all the confusions running what to expect with the whole coded aftermath. That will be okay and you know and it isn't. That hard to be okay. You know we just had to be present in available for the people that that want us right now. Now, we talk about the pain the paint. The pain of disappointed or the pain of trauma girls to get to that nice realization. So. Happy Feeling. The End. that. It wasn't that it wasn't that easy on that transition. So maybe I'll just wonder if you could. Just talk to a little bit about. What kind of things went on in your office over the last? Few months you're Things especially, after we started with the mastermind Mike it was that fun at the time, but it Kinda way to what your results are now. Yes. Oh, I guess, the first half of the year is NASA Fund. That's probably the case for just about everybody you know when when this whole thing happened We had to deal with the abrupt drop in patients in scrambling to figure out how to accommodate. Masking, distancing all the limitations that were put on us and just like everybody else was. Kind of going into that is we had some staffing changes we had. A new CEO who started with US like a couple of weeks before things hit the fan at then. We lost to see as in our associate in the really the first. Before months of the year and so Disney major stuff and. All those departures were were not a bad things. But having to have them happen. was super pleasanton and as you know from just knowing me in also working together in the mastermind I'm a conflict avoid. wait Yeah I'm a I am a conflict horror. I do not like it. But I'm beginning better and better at not avoiding it, and that's the key In the quicker we rip off those bandaids quick where we come up to the other side and a lot better on the other side. You have to trust that Going into it I suppose. It's so funny because after a national meeting we had in first one we had in Coober, it's GonNa we just got the bill for the room this week because hotel closed right after we left like only ask Huber basically closed in there is no staff and they're just getting back to. Resemblance of normal. So that's how quick after our first meeting the whole world went. It was pretty funny. So. Tell me a little bit about associates. Soak. Lottery like and against sometimes I know I was like this choose of they're like I don't have to do all the work. and. I. Want someone helped pay for my overhead and I can have another shrimp income in my office that might be good or or someone who can cover me when I'm on holidays and so. Sometimes the reason that you get an associate in the first place might not actually be. What you want in the long term. So maybe just tell a little bit about how you kind of decided to get one indices like if you if you changed or what kind of you learn from from that experience. Yeah. So I guess it was always the idea that we would get one and then we give no no. Keep going getting as big as was possibly could in. So we we've been growing. Since we opened seven years ago at A. Grind our call a slow steady grind. Nice uptick like slow and steady. And then we got to the point where. I was I felt like I was out into felt very frazzled all the time and so the the logical step in my mind was to bring somebody else. And So we we ended up hiring an old friend of mine who had his own practice in didn't like owning and he just wanted to show address Johnston said, okay. Well, why don't you do that with me? He just show up and adjust and So he had no responsibilities for getting patients or things like that was just literally Shogun and go home. which is exactly what he wanted what I thought I wanted. and he was great using an old like I said, the trust serving was there. So it was it was. Like a good situation but what I didn't account for was that. I lacked the ability to scale up. and. So what happened was all sudden we'd doubled our capacity by having to doctors and had a huge increase our expenses by having to doctors, but then still the slow steady grind with new patients and. Even stalled out what we were flat. was just getting. Stressful And so we were getting close to the point where we're gonNA need to either reframe responsibilities. So Hugh have more role in bringing new people because I just I wasn't getting it done. To the level that we need it, and then covert hit and thing is that the fan then load the snap our fingers in enormous stronger over revenue went away enormous trunk core visits went away. And? We were just at a point where. We didn't need to doctors and. You know really just didn't have the capacity for either and so we were pretty affronts from the GEICO and things you know like if things don't go scratch, we might be able to keep you e completely understood and unfortunately it turned out that had to be the case that we weren't able to keep them on and. which was I, mean that's a sucks in general. Sucks even more when it's an old friend. sucks even more when like it's not like he was. Poor performance or was nothing bad on his end just in the market changed and? So. That was a really, really sucky. Event of having to. Let him go. But Practice on the other side as been. much simpler. You know it's less people to to manage I love the pace lamb adjusting it. Now I'm nice and steady and busy and I like that and I found that we've got we surpassed the the level that I was at when we hired him in the first place and it feels super comfortable and I feel like I've got tons more capacity so. It's been a learning experience and You know not a fun transition, but coming out on the other side has been a good thing in hopefully good for him as well. When hopefully you get to situation as was a better fit for him to. Yeah I think it's interesting though because it's it's funny how we think we want something and then when you do it and you're like maybe I, don't because. Working, with you kind of times that you're you're the most president enjoy enjoying things was when you're when you're actually seeing people on serving people, right? Yeah and then what happened is you had when you brought him on any responsibility is almost like you had to take on this responsibility and then you had to stress so in an area that you weren't as comfortable with. And then you will your spending less time doing what actually was your? What was what you really looks do? Yeah him coming on took away the part of my job that I'm best at loved the most in added more or the part that I'm not so good at and don't really. have. A. Much confidence in. So yeah, it was not a great. Thing in retrospect willing. But I think though like I don't take someone someone probably couldn't have told you before that right you know there's certain things that you almost just have to do, and then you have to just learn from it right and. It's a good lesson for a lot of people out there is that you know like it's you'd be easy to go and beat up yourself and say, Oh, I should have known that and action of first place and Blah. Blah. Blah. But that's not really helpful. I. Did it and now, and now it's funny as you're actually is you felt like you're burning out before at the volume that you're seat less than it is now right how you feel like more vital doing that volume, which is busier, which you probably wouldn't have happened unless you had that experience. Probably. Yeah. No I. I recognize better. What would bills me and do more that less the other and that seems to work pretty good. Now we'll just extend that to staffing 'cause Yeah. That's the same sort of thing. Right tell us a little bit about you actually. Was a few weeks ago didn't have your main your main manager was gone and they just had a it was just you and a brand new arrived. Data. So. Yeah. It was. We had several days over like three in the past year that Left, the practice in. Those were not. Fund the circumstances was never is, but again, it's not so much they were. They were doing a terrible job or like stole money than it'd be a yet get out of here. it was more interested in weren't right fit culturally in that's that's not as fun ways they goodbye to somebody but. The happen just in rapid succession they're as then Megan are Louis than she has. She started right before overhead. and. She was newer to the practice newest gaining new down everything and then the Tasha our office manager she had weakened half where she was on a talented family trip they always take me mega like all of a sudden and. We meet. Gracious. We had actually our busiest weaken practice ever during that time I'm sorry the busiest day in practice at that time. And wouldn't find it went great. My wife came in in here and there just to be no at least be a body. The front desk has been years since she's actually done this thing but it when grace and You Know Megan's she's you know she's the right person has got a lot of skills and it just. It just shows that that was. Such. Much more important, variable than net belt of people though that we had there because we made a work in is actually a lot of fun. Julie couple of listen I'm just curious. Did you find it forced? You get more engaged? Like were you like really on the pre cre- shift huddle and before every shift like you guys are just on the same page in like it seemed like you increased your connection to the front. Yeah and pretty good about that. In general we always huddled beforehand and I I keep an Apple Watch. So they can text me can text them to stiffen to tweak things throughout the shift but yeah, we got real strategic with like this House GonNa feel this what needs to happen here and We was it flowed perfectly. We really got you know maybe a little bit behind but just a little and within the all acceptable rate in. To you know. Davis such big number by myself in with just Meghan. Ratner. was was really cool. So that was that was a good thing for a forever guide. In Natasha wasn't even there I think she. Is solidified her that the trust that she already had in Michigan but she knows that she can step aside to and Meghan will be just fine in that data a good thing for everybody. So it seems interesting that you've gone a little bit more lean. With the Tina but then it's like, but then there's less less like not right on say responsibility because you're responsible but like less like everyone seems more cohesive teams right and then yeah. I was going to say got that old adage that if you you'd rather have three like the the rule of three hundred right that movie three hundred you can eat the move lots with three hundred but if you had like five thousand but half of them are on the same page just like actually you can't do as much as you can do with a smaller amount of people that are like all lined up and ready to give her. Yeah we and that's kind of been our rt because we just a new girl starts on Monday, and that was like are hundred percents. Thing is like, will she jive with with the rest of us can be like trust this person or she trust? How will we mesh together as a group? That's? Become the. The much bigger thing that we're looking at were hiring somebody because that's that's. Such a small office who were working so close together leaning each other so much is just becomes so clear that is the most important b-actor on heading to the team Totally. Same. Thing where we are social left in an we had laid everybody off. Then we brought back one less staff. Missing things were running lean, but it's like super super efficient. Yeah. Yeah. Is GonNa be a weird to have a another staffer sn is like We've been running pretty darn lean a little too lean probably. Make it a work. We're going to feel like you've got nothing but free time. You're. Next week well, I find this. This happens to some of the we work with is sometimes you're not ready to. Hand things over to other people. So a lot of times they will hire a CPA, but we will, but we want but maybe we don't fully trust some Marino want to give them. The thing is that we actually hired them for that will take off weight so that we can focus. And then sometimes what has to happen is things have to blow up. And you have to go super lean so that you have to do way more of the stuff like I. I know when it first happened in brand practice is we've had laid off for our staff and then we start rolling in I had to clean the tables all the time and I'm like, oh my gosh, like this is. Brian is joking with the with the patient saying Oh. My Gosh. I never knew dot clean and I'm like I didn't like it either like this. But but when you bring people back on I think you're lot more likely to surrender those things because I think the hardest things for some chiropractors actually hire equal but then they don't let them do. The jobs that they could do to free up the chiropractors time because I now I know I'm just adjusting in educating. That's all I'm doing. That's the only thing doing and anytime I can now now I know I before I would hold onto that stuff I trust that keep my ear to the year to the front. Desk. Don't say anything on an like. Halfway through just would stop adjusting them to go to the frightened correct conversations going on or something. Right we're not hundred percent presence and now I'm just like. Now just said focus so. I think that's interesting. It'll be interesting for you. When you bring this new person just if you'll be, you'll more comfortable dislike. Like letting go especially if you've been running lean into been like juggle unless you more things normally. And that was one of the lessons we got a nose. Knows days when it was just me in Megan and Can run around like crazy just demands the adjusting portion I couldn't do anything else because as his so much of that to do and at. A The world keeps spinning if that's the only thing I do in fact, it goes pretty good. So it was a good demonstration that I can. I can't let go in it was because of forced to for a little bit there one end for you is awesome as it because it forced you to let go to do things you absolutely love to do right you know you're. You're tired is again anytime record week you're GONNA be tired, but I think it's a different feeling being just physically tired because you did really good job than emotional tired is you're trying to think about how do I, fix how do I fix things? I don't have control over how do I like you're you're kind of overthinking conversations that cognitive tiredness is a lot different than the cards. In coming out of that, the time when we were a super crunched we the staff is shifted the way to do scheduling to be better like condensing things down into chunks in leaving bigger gaps. I. If I have you know twenty thirty minutes where there's nobody there I can actually do something as opposed to like five minutes. I'm like, all right. What am I doing here and? The fewer times at the switch may add the better it is for productivity, but it just feels better energy wise as well. I'm less lissa switch gears a little bit because. I WANNA follow up from the last podcast episode weeded where you made that commitment that you're going to do a little bit more self care. Do you remember that? I do. So, why don't you give listeners update because there's people all over the world do they haven't heard from you for years they? What's what's going on with that? So. Yeah. So a couple of things I was stressed out entire to a pretty high degree for too long so I guess to kind of big thing to go after that one is I bought something called a chilly pad and I highly recommend it. It's Chili's. Yeah. It's really cool like a really thin sheet that you put underneath your normal sheets and it's hooked up to a pump that pumps cold water threaten. You can set whatever temperature you want but I I keep myself at chilly fifty five degrees at night is totally transformed my sleep. And I'm getting no more minutes than I did previously but it's much deeper sleep in. It was much more comfortable sleep in two little kids at wake up at five o'clock in the morning every day. Maximizing that time in bed is huge. So that's been really helpful, and so that's been great. The other thing is I've been. Consistently, going to the gym. Diet is a week. Yeah and that because that's some jealous on the podcast can't see I can see the Nice Pike. She got the big players ball I'm busting Outta, my shirt forever candidate. It's When I was in school. And I didn't have kids in the headaches Our Donald time has shaped my life. That's what I've felt the best in every way. and. Opening the practice having kids I just got away from it and I noticed a correlation with Milo lack of fitness how I felt. Johnston's wise and it's really kind of just kinda followed that your hand. So I find that S- that one thing that is very easy control as just a one thing of going to the gym lifting doesn't just make me stronger physically. It makes me feel better. It gives me more energy like that. That one action translates to many different areas of my life if I had to pick like one thing that would have the biggest impact was going to the gym and so that's been great. So I'm definitely committed not letting that drop again because I've seen both sides that no I like this I better see and actually you have to begin is someone destroying think we told you just work out you'll feel better. Until you actually go through that experience. Then than than, we always say that the why is the fuel right? If you if you have a May why minded, it's easier to do it. such. Great. So so congratulations because again you said for us to keep you accountable for your your physical self care and you've done it. So the UP. Thank you very much bell. Let's go to the second part of it is mindset because in our group. That we're in with a engine and even with our mastermind. People were kind of asking like, what was your kind of what was your? What was the differences for you to to hit a record in July and then you'd said it wasn't so much what you did different but who you be and and I know we've been working on a little bit because you're you're. You're not like the big feeling I his. You're working on and so I was wondering if you just made me sure listeners a little bit of your journey on. Yeah. So while you know as you, Kinda just said a left brain guy look at I like I like numbers in data and things like that. So. It was Kinda funny when you know we had. You know may was okay June. Pretty good. July was our best ally ever and I was Kinda like what's going on like a house it's happening and so I do what I do and I go to the numbers and. A couple of things that really stood out in number one was at the people that came in to get checked ended up starting care were consistently hitting the highest numbers we ever did. Because that's something that I noticed too when I had an associate, those numbers plummeted for me and. Once, you know he was he was had left. Way Back up again, and they didn't have anything to 'em that everything to do with me being in more of that that healthy states when I met the office and focused and everything else. But to see the paper was was pretty pretty cool and then the other thing that I noticed was that. The vast majority of the people that were coming in were referral. At we've always had a really strong referral. Practice, but more. So in the past months. So you put those two things together and considering we're we weren't doing any big events of course It just meant that was a better experience in the office. And both from EMC front desk staff it as well. It was just a better experience when that happens people want to be there and they want the people they know that they want them to be there and. What an easier in awesome way to grow a practice ranges is providing a good experience because you're happier. Yeah that's that's awesome and tell me a little bit be. the feeling things we kind of trying to get you to. Are also because it's challenging if you're not yet being leprince. Any, we're always perfecting it but tell us a little bit about your journey with that in how you doing now. Well I didn't even know that I had a feeling issue until you guys pointed out I. Remember in Vancouver how Brandy asked me how I felt about something. That is looked at her and the rest of the group you're trying to help me and whatever, and Brandon's note like is not not participating. Keep doesn't know and I remember like I don't know I how do I not know how I feel like that's weird and but you know nobody pointed that out as a kind of a disconcerting stealing is to not understand your own emotions. and. So that's been in continues to be a will be. Something that will take a lot of focus communities can understand what's going on at. Heart. But what's been helpful is not only the work that you guys have had given me directly. With reading and whatnot but also just talking to my, my kids are older son. Especially, he runs like me he's. He's a left brain tends towards the anxiousness guy yeah and so having in. His feelings to me is been helpful now, only A. For myself but to course correct him at six years old as opposed to thirty all the by thirty eight. Yeah. So. It's that's been cool at remember you guys were talking about how you leave your guys defense people notice the change in their kids because the kids are like what the grownups are doing. And one of my favorite thing about both by sounds but mostly older one because he's older is how How Articulate he is but how in touch with his feelings he is in there is now no. Difficulty expressing himself or hesitation expressing himself, and in a way he's my model for how I want to be. and. So having those conversations with them more deliberately noticing how France's himself is actually been helpful for teaching me not express ourselves. Lots, I think that's cool because I think anytime that will we don't have kids but we've heard it so much for is often what the adults would be working on. It seems like their kids end up being the teacher for them if they look forward to or if they look for it right being right. So, let's let's. Let's cool journeys been pretty cool. That's why I wanted to kind of share with everybody Some huge points at a lot of people can learn from a especially like in that realm this is someone's natural more analytical, right? These are always working on everything in our life nursery Peru need to become more analytical. With our never looked at the numbers in the history of their life. They don't even know Hajicostas personal with overhead. So we right back where we have a little bit more of a balance between those two thirds so. So enclosing I'm always like to just likely last a little bit for my guests depend. You know if there's someone behind you in practice or someone's going to practice some of these little bit burnt older, they're less stressed out because the pandemic recorded What kind of words ministration would you like to leave them today? Oh Gosh. Got The big question at the end. I would've thought about where heads. was so I guess. What I've been telling my patients with this whole Kobe time is this is such an opportunity to do stuff different. And The investiture health who spend more time with their families you're never gonNA have enough drilling this again if you see it that way and same deal in practice. Gosh. If you ever wanted to make a change knows the time whether it's a staffing thing there's a lot of people were looking for a job. Great people if you need somebody. We're actually looking at junior software runs the show because the time to do that is that's a huge band butts. So or you know take time off this is this is such a one opportunity to try different things marketing or otherwise set out. To jump on that and you know I don't know how when in person events are going to start to happen but that's always been big for me to go to something unfamiliar. Whether it's contracts or business or otherwise just to. Get a different perspective on things that is super helpful and I'm looking forward to win the. Entry into Canada reopened. I'd like to bring my my staff out to your guys's next. Shift, event because. Not only those. Great in general they are. Thought provoking and see not just sitting there taking notes encourages. Requires Participation and you'll always come away from those things impacted the mets. That's the whole point, right? Yeah in for Lewis thing that said November seventh that we're doing the day one day to emergency and creating agreements that in Vancouver and so forth for American friends or anybody in the UK stuff maybe don't register your ticket yet. We still have right now travel ban till September twenty first. For people coming in and being quarantine for fourteen days. So if you're Canadian you bring it on, you come out. So we're we're doing we're doing the event. No matter what. But. Yeah. Just maybe hold off your from the country but down looking forward to get together with you guys in the masterminds you we can can set up our our live meetings against so. Right, so I WANNA. Thank you so much for being on the PODCASTS. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me. And Everyone I'm sure you've got a lot of good points out of this I mean. The other dachshund earner mastermind judith is we've had a bunch of people that are actually hitting record weeks and record months after coded. No WanNa try to spread that out to help inspire records having a hard time during this. So like always don't forget shift on. Thank you for listening to the PODCAST. If you've received value from this episode, please share this with fellow chiropractor and take some time to rate and review us on itunes or wherever your favorite place is to listen to podcasts. If you're interested in learning more about our programs and events, please visit www dot the vitality shifts dot com or connect with me on facebook I would love to hear from them. So until next time Dr Dawn out.

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May 6, 2021 - Full Show

Chicago Tonight

56:50 min | 4 months ago

May 6, 2021 - Full Show

"Good evening and welcome to chicago tonight. I'm brandis friedman and i'm amanda finicky in for paris shuts on the show tonight over. You should be like everyone else. Pull yourself up by your boot shot. I'll have any bootstraps to pull on evanston historic reparations program. What comes next for the city's residents we absolutely think under dylan. Always latino population has grown this past decade and advocates say that should equate to more political power productions like chicago. Fire are making this one of the busiest years ever for tv and film crews in town look at the status of the industry in chicago illinois. Chronic kidney affects one in every ten people on the planet researchers have found an enzyme that could help cure it. I'm angel edo and tonight. I'll be taking you to a new exhibit and elmhurst exploring segregation within the chicago area. Could two hundred forty pounds. Sturgeons become the norm in the great lakes. That plus more fishy fax and jeffrey bear on one logan square apartment building at once hosted royalty can tell us about the formation of chicago's neighborhoods and brandis. Amanda as you mentioned. I'm in evanston a northern suburb of chicago home to northwestern university. The vaccine roll out here has actually outpaced. The rest of the state majority of eligible residents have gotten at least their first dose and now folks are looking toward recovery equity is going to be a big piece of that recovery for a lot of people here including the incoming mayor will hear from him. We'll also talk about that historic reparations program as well as a plan to make direct cash payments to residents but for now back to you a lot to talk about it in evanston. Thank you nick. And to some of today's top stories illinois is on track to reach the fifth and final phase of its reopening plan as soon as june eleventh. Now that's just over a month governor. Jay pritzker made the announcement today citing stabilizing case rates and reduced hospitalizations as well as sixty percents of adults in the state having received at least the first dose of the vaccine before face. Five the state. Will i reach the bridge phase now. That starting next friday may fourteenth. This means increased capacity for restaurants bars retail. And more of course. The governor warns though all of these transitions still depend on the viruses spread. It's very exciting to me. That we can begin to reopen to abridge phase and then ultimately to phase five which is reopening everything except making sure that we're still masking so we can protect those who are unvaccinated. those who are unvaccinated can protect everyone else. The governor and illinois department of public health also emphasized the need for people to get vaccinated and announced the expansion of the state's vaccination plan to include private doctor's offices and small medical providers meanwhile illinois health officials say seventeen hundred more people have been diagnosed with corona virus and forty people have died. The state has had more than one point. Three hundred forty eight million cases total and twenty two thousand one hundred thirty six deaths the seven day rolling average of vaccinations administered is around. Seventy thousand black men in chicago were the target of seventy two percent of all search warrants served by the chicago police department for the last four years. That's according to a new report from the city's inspector general. The report says just three point. Five percent of warrants between two thousand seventeen and twenty twenty targeted white residents. The office says a majority of the warrants were served on neighborhoods in the south and west sides and the pd fails to accurately track data citing warrants for raids often including incomplete information. The report also says police superintendent. David brown overstated the success. Rate of warrants to alderman. There is much more of this story on our website. Evanston is one of chicago's most populous suburbs located just north of chicago along the lakefront. It's known for its dining scene arts culture and northwestern university it also has a history of racial segregation and redlining which city leaders hope to start making amends for through a ten million dollar reparations program as part of our chicago tonight in your neighborhood series nick bloomberg and producer morrison nelson spent the day reporting in evanston. Nick joins us now with more nick. We'll brandis as you mentioned. This is a place well known for those restaurants and other local businesses like everywhere. They've had to make huge over the past year because of covid also in the past year getting a lot of national attention. That just passed reparations program which will give out housing related funds to black families ties to evanston that face redlining now. Some critics say true reparations would mean direct cash payments. there's actually an organization working here in evanston doing just that cherise robertson's family has been in evanston along time for grandmother was born here in one thousand nine hundred six and roberson new wanted to raise her three children here. It was a small town. We knew everyone so it was. It was the best choice rogerson designs and sells bow ties. Jewelry custom clothing. I loved to see people in my things. you know. that's the beauty of it. You get to see them. Wear what you create it and and they love it but running your own business especially during kovic is tough without the financial buffer might have. Oh you should be like pull yourself up by your boot shot. I don't have any bootstraps to poll on. Rogerson just got her first. Direct payment from the financial mobility nonprofit up together which says it's giving forty black families with ties to evanston three thousand dollars over ten months as a complement to the city's housing focused reparations program for people who have money they may think oh. Give somebody two hundred or three hundred dollars. Extra money is not that it really helped machine broke down. I needed to repair it. But i didn't have the money to repair. Thanks to the extra cash. She did that. Leg-up up through direct aid is also a focus group evanston fight for black lives which has opened the first of four planned community fridges. Members of the community can come in put food in and then also take it out for no cost to that people have access to food and there isn't as much food insecurity here. fb l. Started last year in the wake of george floyd murder or not immune to the racial injustices that happened throughout this country. The groups organized marches fundraisers and information sessions. The main focus is defunding the evanston police department and creating an alternative form of community safety so making sure that people safe but making sure that black and brown people aren't being traumatized and there would be a variety of roles depending on the call of crisis that they're getting so if there's someone calling with mental health crisis it's someone trained specifically as a psychologist as a therapist responding to that. Call an armed officer l. Says it wants to work with incoming mayor. Daniel biss on reimagining policing. This will have a lot on his plate including evanston recovery. The venue space has hosted two hundred fifty or so people for a diverse array of shows since two thousand eight. But it's been mostly empty space for the last year. We immediately started presenting live streaming concerts from artists homes. And that was a really great way to distill present music. Most nights of the week as the weather warmed space offered concerts in people's backyards. And eventually for a small crowd under a tent next store incredibly joyous seen people experience music scene musicians performed for people not a camera or their computer. I'll remember forever. Samuel says space is eager to get back to business with indoor shows for small masked crowds next month and the return of. It's out of space outdoor concert series in august. We've been really overwhelmed by the support for space and music venues in general to preserve that web of venues that artists required to tour the outdoor events that bullied space were also a boon to diana hammond. She owns the wind goddess of retail. Space wine bar and believe it or not for our fifteen hundred square feet. We also do a pretty kickin lineup of live music. Last summer she in neighbouring restaurants leprince. Paul and territory. Do see approached the city of evanston to ask. Can we at the very least you know every night create a mexican restaurant a wine bar and an italian restaurant on the street out here in custer and to their credit they said go for it and and pretty much. What do you need. The so-called customer basis is returning this week to give some you know joy and a bit of respite to our fantastic customers who have supported us all so much throughout the pandemic that community support and recognition of need cherise. Roberson feels it. To as a group of people we've always felt marginalized. We've always felt like we're in a country that just does not allow us no matter what we do it makes you feel good that someone knows someone feels your pain other than you as a community as a people and they see an one hell now up together says it's evanston equitable. Recovery fund has exhausted all the money that had for this round. but they're always looking for additional donors or partners to help continuing Continue their mission of putting cash in people's hands both here in evanston and nationwide. We'll have more coming up for now back to you. Nick see then thank you. As one of only three states that lost residents in the latest census illinois is losing one seat in congress as well were it not. For the latino population illinois's population would have dipped even more. Amanda is back with more amanda. The latino population in illinois has been growing since the eighties at from ten to twenty nineteen nine by roughly nine percent. We don't know exactly. What illinois's latino population is now. The numbers from last year's defense aren't complete yet. But the rough estimation is that there are approximately two point two million latinos who live in illinois making up there for about seventeen percent of the state's twelve point six million residents advocates. Like roberto veld. Junior are working to make sure that translates to political power as illinois. Legislators are scurrying to draw new maps that will determine the boundaries of congressional and state legislative districts for the decade to come democrats have promised them apps we'll be fair and equitable. And so if you really look at a equity and you look at the way that districts are drawn You divide the the amounts district's Throughout the states Keeping in mind population of latinos in the district. You would actually look at forty five total. It's majority districts if you just divided our population amongst the amount of districts that are available now doing illinois population into districts. That isn't quite as simple as filled as well knows. It's not as if of course latinos all in one spot. But the latino policy forum is asking that in areas where latino residents are concentrated. Legislators have an. I drawing districts that are at least fifty percent latino when democrats drew the last map the one. That's in effect now. They failed to do enough of that. Bill does says result vega samuel with malda agrees we absolutely ain't that latinos are underrepresented bokan the legislature and at the congressional level. She says the legislature should be reflective of the state's demographics political power and representation. They matter really ultimately ross's really should be able to pay the elected official of their choice. And so when you do that you know that someone has your back and that is specific to schools hospitals. The roads that are in your home. Right crime Every right it impacts everything amanda if illinois legislators do draft maps with more majority latino districts where could those be for. Ns that's actually a really interesting question for a couple of reasons and for one population shifts. We know that the latino population is increasing in the suburbs. So the latino policy forum says legislators should look to include areas like near o'hare aurora elgin and while keegan it is also interesting politically one of the rubs with illinois's process of letting legislators draw their own district boundaries is that incumbents will be tempted to protect their own seats what might majority latino district's mean for the districts that made be majority black particularly given decreases in the black population. It's an overriding question. Failed us says in the state legislature. There should be space for twenty majority latino districts if the legislature draws a map and there is less than twenty latino majority districts to fifteen house. Five senate been. We went deem that map. Inequitable malda isn't going that far giving any sort of estimates while the legislature is asking for groups to submit draft maps. Maldives says that that's impossible. Until the census data comes in movement and there is a ship and so while we understand that that is what has happened. That is why we need very specific block level data to ensure that we see where that has happened where that shift has happened. One of the legislators leading the redistricting process is state. Senator omer keno. He represents chicago's second district. I'm sitting here. Today is as being being lucky enough to represent my my neighbors community Because of the fact that we had you know organizations and people like begin by wet shoes to the latter next members had a place in our state and had representation. And we've gone from zero in one thousand nine hundred eighty two in two thousand twenty want we have. I think a total of sixteen members both from the house and the senate right now that are part of the latin community now well a lot of good government groups say that an independent commission would be better suited to draw these maps dan self interested. Legislators aquino says the general assembly's best for the job. And i believe that the way to get it right to have a fair map. That shows are great. Diversity is making sure that it's done in a public process and by doing a legislative process that is the most open in public process. I believe that there is before we go. We want to make clear. None of the advocates are saying that districts drawn to include a majority of voting age latinos should or must be represented by latino officials. They say that is up to voters. By the way we've really been focusing on state legislative seats in this discussion but as you noted earlier illinois is losing a seat in congress right. Now there's only one illinois. Us house district. The fourth represented by congressman has use chewy garcia that is majority latino but latino advocates say per the population. There should be two districts. So that's another political squeeze in you can hear from congressman garcia about that on this saturday's chicago tonight latino voices that's at six o'clock and now brandis back to you. Amanda thank you up next the status of tv and film production in illinois. Stay with us after a big downturn last year film and tv production in chicago is looking up later this month. The shy returns to showtime for its fourth season add to that that well established dick wolf productions and a new show called sixty first street produced by michael jordan and twenty twenty. One looks to be a banner year joining us to talk about the state of film production in illinois our quantum wad who the director of the chicago film office. Also peter holly director of the illinois film office. Welcome to the both of you now. Kwami waku when we last spoke to you in the fall of twenty twenty brutal for so many industries including the film industry. But you are optimistic about twenty twenty one. Has that found out. I think it's it's been better than we've expected. Production has reached. The you know over. It's it's beyond pre pandemic levels right now in production is doing very well beyond pre pandemic levels. You don't hear much of that these days. So what are some of the the highlight projects world. There's several projects going on the go. Ahead i- kwami no it. Of course the nickel shows in the nbc family would is actually just wrapping up this week. Their sneezing by really excited about the news. Shows you've gotta. Hbo the filter before the pandemic. They're picking up the series in western suburbs starting the summer. We've got paper girls which is also into around with the city and in the suburbs as well and you know force in a whole bunch of new shows that the born on our radar when they're pandemic started in they all came back in these new shows starting up in the fall now in the spring. And it's really exciting times so perhaps lots of creative juices flowing but also a whole lot of recruiting. I'm sure goes into that so peter. Let's stick with you. Can you remind us of the work that the illinois film office does to facilitate bringing productions to the city. Yes we one of the things we do in this really the driver. For productions the same production tax credit governor pritzker signed an extension to that tax credits two years ago and the production The end of twenty twenty six and that is really what gets the productions here then the rest of my Qualms offices same thing as we're filling friendly we try to help filmmakers sign locations. Shuki of space You know on the ground stuff. And that's what we do in and luckily chicago illinois is calling. I mean we have a great skyline. The of great crudes are union crew. Bases terrific the infrastructure is terrific as you know simple space is expanding and a lot of the selling of chicago is done just because of all the work that's gone before us. Chicago sells itself a climbing. Anything that you want to add there in terms of what attracts productions to chicago. In frankly the rest of illinois will i mean. There's a lot of reasons in front of and behind the camera. There's tons of talent like peter mention. We have great crew base here of great in front of the camera. Talent of so you don't have to bring in a lot of the day players a lot of those those actors to fill those roles you know. We have a great film schools. Here to provide a great workforce days. You also have a great diverse workforce here that attracts a lot of projects that want a diverse crew So that's a big. You know sunning point for us not to mention a variety of locations not only in chicago but just in the surrounding area where you can have an one infants. You could be in a cornfield or you could be a highly urban environment or beach or in the woods so it offers a lot of versatility for productions a lot of good reasons to film in chicago geographic diversity and i do believe that that state tax credit also gives further incentive if some of the hires come from disadvantaged neighborhoods so a further perhaps attraction there but of course we did just come through. Well heck we're we're still in a pandemic. Can you speak to some of the rigorous safety protocols that are in place right now and in particular the role that fargo had in kind of kick starting some of these productions. So let's start with you. Peter fargo was our traveler last. June governor pritzker net production go back to work or on a limited basis. I but that was still the end of june and fargo came back in august and We've said this is simply this. Quite a bit that beth production episodes finish production went on for about a hitch and that really opened the door for the chicago chose to come back and then we had a pilots last fall discipline holiday film dot last fall like just the rigor especially fargo gig is start a really allowed production your comeback and it showed that annoy was doing well and doing it safely and i think that was another reason. We've got so much more production here in the spring. Twenty twenty one. So what what of that. What are some of the safety protocols and procedures that are in place You know win the pandemic work-stoppage stoppage happen There was a lot of scrambling behind the scenes from industry stakeholders Health departments from both the state and city Unions they all came together to develop these protocols For working safely and It's been amazing the the successful -ness of this of this program of where they almost put different sections of crew in bubbles. So you have an aid. Group of e-group ac- group with the age group being other group. That's near camera. And where actors after performed without pcp and testing on sometimes three or five three or five times a week for that. And then you have the other groups where there's other systematic testing. So i think the testing contact tracing recalls resulted in test positivity rates. There were far below the local average the national. Hopefully those tests weren't those nasal swabs and instead via saliva one. 'cause out there are could ill annoyed. We think peter seeing additional production coming to illinois particularly as. You're looking at places like georgia where there's an industry boycott i think will smith moved their production out of there. I mean i think the illinois will position to take advantage of these states that have a young restricted voting rights acts and other more conservative Laws than rested states are thinks. The governor in some of his initiatives in the country. And i think hollywood in particular response to that and look to place chosen productions here in illinois as opposed to some of these other states. And i'm afraid we have to leave it there a lot going on especially with a huge expansion of sound stages at sinister face much appreciation to each of you quantum walk-o into peter holly vitiation for joining us. And now brandis back to you. Amanda thank you and now we go back to nick bloomberg. Who's in evanston as a part of our chicago tonight in your neighborhood series. And he's joined now with the city's incoming mayor. Nick that's right brandis. I'm here with mayor. Elect daniel biss. Thanks for joining us. You are set to be sworn in just a few days from now on monday cove. Nineteen as i don't see how it could be any other way was a huge part of your campaign looking forward to the recovery. How do you make sure that cove recovery is equitable. the. I'm glad you asked that question because it's not enough to make sure we get shots in arms which we are doing a very good job of here in evanston. I'm really pleased to say it's not enough to fill all of these storefronts and offices that we've seen near us here in evanston. We need to make sure that we come back with an economy that is more equitable than the one we had before that means putting resources in the hands of entrepreneurs of course that means workforce development in collaboration with the high school in the community college and employers to make sure that you've been perhaps disaffected have an opportunity. There is an incredible moment here if we sees it. We can build a more just economy than we had before. But that's not going to happen by itself. We've got make it happen. You've also said that examining the evanston police department and its budget is a day one priority for you know a lot of folks rethinking policing they might hear activists use phrase like defunding the police. That can be a no go for them. How do you bridge that gap and help create space for those conversations know. I don't really try to get mixed up in the question of what language other people use. What i wanna do is work on facts and data and the basic values that we have is a community and those values dictate what i would call a more humanistic approach to providing for public safety where the deployment of force and violence are really a last resort. Not a first step and that means building up our capacity on things like mental healthcare substance abuse treatment other forms of victim services. Different ways of doing traffic stops and crowd control and more and if we do that properly not only are we providing a better quality of shared public safety for all. We're also supporting police officers rather than allowing kind of mission creep. That hasn't doing all kinds of things. They were initially trained for and didn't know she sign up to do. We talked a little bit in the package that we had about evanston reparations program the the first in the country how do you plan to be involved in that program and he hopes that perhaps expanding it yes are. I think rightly proud here in evanston to be leading the country and establishing municipal reparations program. And i'm really excited about it. But i think it's important to say that we've just begun just recently. The council authorized the first four percent of the reparations dollars that are going to be going out the door hopefully relatively shortly that leaves ninety six percent of the money that we still need to determine how it's going to be allocated what kind of programmatic decisions are going to be made and then as you said we've got to grow pot because by the way the money coming in so far doesn't address all the inequities and it's not coming from all the different sources. That did the harm that we're trying to repair right. We're not far from northwestern university if you look at their historic pack. This is when it comes to racial segregation among the student body. They contributed to the harm. We need to engage them in repairing the harm look at the financial institutions that participated in redlining and residential segregation participated in exacerbating that harm. And now that need to step up to the plate and repaired so there's a lot of work left to do on this issue. I know this is a big question for about thirty seconds left or so but climate change a big issue for you as well. How can a city play a role in in answering a global question. The thing about climate change is no one institution whether it's you personally or the united nations can do it alone which means we all have to step up in. Evanston has a strong action resilience plan. That means we've got a lot of work to do when it comes to transportation building codes and waste disposal and more to live up to the commitments that we've already made. I am a dedicated to make sure we do. Just that all right. Well mayor daniel thank you so much for spending your evening with us. We appreciate it. It's good to see you. Thanks for having me and brands will have more from evanston including the connections between northwestern university and the community. But for now back to you. We'll see you in a bit. Nick thank you and still to come on chicago tonight. A new study of pharmacy desert's in the thirty biggest cities in america. Find chicago has the most pronounced. Racial disparities in exhibit in elmhurst uses photos of dr king to focus the conversation on fair housing. Anything is possible including a two hundred and forty pound sturgeon. But just how common are. They and jeffrey bear on the history of the north club. And chicago's norwegian american community in this week's ask geoffrey but i some more of today's top stories governor. Jay pritzker announces illinois is five weeks away from fully reopening but he emphasizes that low infection rates along with maintaining precautions in. Vaccinations are still needed to reopen. By june eleventh. This good news comes with a caveat we have all seen throughout this pandemic that this virus and its variants have proven to be unpredictable. Metrics that look strong today are far from guarantee of how things will look a week two weeks a month from now we saw that last august and again last march meanwhile state health officials say seventeen hundred more people have been diagnosed with the corona virus and forty people have died. The state has had more than one point. Three hundred forty eight million cases total and twenty two thousand one hundred thirty six deaths so far more than thirty three percent of illinois population has been fully vaccinated the makers of american girl dolls and a local astronomer at the adler. Planetarium reached an agreement over federal trademark lawsuit. Lucienne walkaway wicks a senior fellow at the adler. Planetarium and occasional guest here on chicago tonight. Sued the doll maker. Mattel when they created the luciana vega doll. Walkaway has worked for nasa and has lectured extensively on mars exploration. The purple hair dole is quote an aspiring astronaut. Ready to take the next giant leap. Tomorrow's walker wicks is lawsuit was filed last year and both sides of reaching an agreement but the agreement today in court contains no details of the settlement now to amanda finicky and a story that will be sure to hook your attention. Amanda i see what you did there brandis. That's a reason it catch and release has sparked twice a whopper of a fish tail. The us fish and wildlife service hauled in a six foot ten inch two hundred forty pound sturgeon from the detroit river last week. And it's got scientists wondering if this could become the norm. Wtt w news reporter. Patty wet lead joins us now with more patty. So how fishy is the size of this sturgeon. What are the chances that swimmers. Perhaps if i'd take a dip into lake michigan that we could be swimming alongside one this summer. Not very likely. Sides of surgeon used to be the norm in the great lakes used to be tens of thousands of the that side. Now this one. It could possibly be one of the last left of that. That is that large by comparison. One that was pulled last month from the montrose. Beach area in lake michigan was only seventeen and a half pounds so maybe with restoration efforts. They'll get that big again but right now there's not very many of them left now. Another unusual thing about this not only that it was huge but it also was at least one hundred years old how even can scientists tell how old efficient yes. We shouldn't ask the ladies age but this fish. They're able to tell their age in the same way that you can age a tree. They lay deposits on their bones. And you take a little sample of that. Boom scientists are to count the rings and that is how they tell how old the vicious fascinating stuff. Thanks for swimming along with us. A patty sure thing manda and you can read patties full story on our website where you can learn more about conservation efforts to help the sturgeon population rebound in the great lakes. It's all at wtt w. dot com slash news up next roundup of some top stories in the world of science. Stay with us. Coverage of science and technology on chicago tonight is made possible in part by joel m friedman president of the elven h-bomb family fund an enzyme. That could help the seven hundred million people who suffer from chronic kidney disease around the world a study of pharmacy deserts in america's biggest cities how discarded stretch shells could help rewrite the history of our early african ancestors and the results of the morton arboretum twenty twenty tree us joining us now to help explain. All of these stories is robbie. Mis vice president of education at the museum of science and industry rob. You're welcome back. So scientists in australia have identified an enzyme that could help millions of people as we just mentioned around the world who suffer from chronic kidney disease. What do we know about the number of people who have this and why these numbers are rising. So kidneys are incredibly important. They filter ways than fluid from her body. They help of web pressure among other things. And it's been estimated that about seven hundred million people are just ten percent of the world's population might suffer from chronic kidney disease and increases in recent decades have been attributed to things like obesity and diabetes as well as high blood pressure so things genetic predispositions as well as they have environment and lifestyle factors so. This enzyme is called ned. Four to what does it do. That's right to has been found to regulate the pathway. I'm that takes place. Alert kidneys that helps reabsorb sodium. So this is something. That's a really important in happens in all of us every day that ensures that there's a correct levels of salt in our body And this was a study done in mice and what they found. Was that when that enzyme. Ned for two is reduced or inhibited. It needs to increase. Absorption of salt which can result in kidney damage. Okay so this discovery then. How might it help. Scientists develop treatments to help curb chronic kidney disease. Yes a little like all studies mice. There's a way to go before we can learn what it means in humans. The researchers have that this might mean that in many of those seven hundred million people with kids disease. It may be that. They have lower malfunctioning. Med for two enzyme. So if there's a way to correct those levels maybe we could treat or even reverse kidney disease. Which would be an incredibly important binding. So study out of a university of southern california has found that one third of neighborhoods in the largest thirty cities in the us have pharmacy. Deserts that contribute to health care disparities. How did they define a pharmacy desert. And what are those disparities that they found. Yes this look at something that many of us might take for granted right. How close is a pharmacy to your home. And so they define pharmacy deserts as neighborhoods where the average distance to a pharmacy was one mile Or if you're in a neighborhood where there are more households of people who don't have their own car half a mile so the idea of. How easy is it for you to get to a pharmacy. And what they found was that the prevalence of these are messy desert. Various pretty widely across the needs. It could in some cities. Cuban ten percent of neighborhoods were considered pharmacy desert and other cities more than sixty percent of the neighborhoods in a city. We're considered pharmacy. Deserts and one of the other findings was that across all of the city's segregated black or nineteen on neighborhoods. Were more likely to be pharmacy. Deserts and those that are more racially diverse. Or those that are weight and i can guess but what did researchers find when they looked data for chicago. Yes so sadly those disparities were the greatest in chicago. They were also pronounced in cities like los angeles in baltimore and philadelphia for example but In chicago about one percent of neighborhoods that are predominantly white where pharmacy deserts. Where as closer to thirty percent almost thirty five percent of black neighborhoods where considered pharmacy. Desert's in chicago so significant disparities here. What do researchers suggest can be done to improve the situation to address these racial disparities. So this study's talking about pharmacies. But i think it really underscores all of the overwhelming evidence of how important it is to invest in neighborhoods and communities whether it's food deserts absence of greenspace etcetera and so on the researchers propose that this work could really support policy and business decisions to make sure that more pharmacies are becoming neighborhood. Inkers for things. People need every day for their healthcare. And we'll try and get greenspace in a minute. But first we have to talk about ostrich shells because discarded ostrich shells could help unravel the history of early african ancestors. How is that i love. Showing lurks opening are apparently something called mittens. On which are kind of garbage dumps of civilizations past and so one of the things that's commonly found in these mittens in areas of africa are ostrich shells ostrich eggshells. Excuse me. Ostriches are really rich and protein and were commonly evening and so this particular study used a technique called uranium of dating and found that there was omitted. One of these garbage dumps has been found was found several years ago was deposited there between one hundred nineteen and one hundred thirteen thousand years ago. I'm that's around the time that humans were believed to have moved from becoming from being hunter gatherers more several of its mittens with the d. Not with a t. As in not the ones that you put on your hands in the winter why are these. Why are these ostrich shows the shells better than using radiocarbon dating techniques for this kind of research. Radiocarbon are poverty. Fourteen techniques are typically limited to dating things that are about fifty thousand or so years old so this this other method this uranium three method really allows for both more precise dating but also for older things. We're talking about one hundred thousand years ago and more it's more precise it also again is is more used for things that contain calcium carbonate shells so this was a really nice technique to get us. This really cool information. All right so the morton arboretum just released the results of its twenty twenty cents for the chicago region. What were their findings. So this is cool because this is the census of two thousand ten we think about the human similar so this is the first hour from that study and found that the region in chicago has more trees than it did in two thousand ten so went from one hundred fifty seven million to about one hundred and seventy but unfortunately also found that there's an invasive species that is making the largest fraction of trees so tree that's not normally. I'm supposed to be here is spreading rapidly and degrading some of our native ecosystems. And they say that trees provide more than four hundred sixteen million dollars in benefits to residents. How did they come up with that number. And what are the most important benefits. That trees provide in thirty seconds. We have left. This is a great reminder that she's aren't just beautiful amr so excited spring is here and they're coming back out but they are important contributors to our ecosystem this about functional value as it's called as calculated by thinking looking at how much carbon is the festered. We know trees poll. Co two atmosphere. How they help. Avoid runoff reduce energy costs and also help in removing pollution so that's quite significant contribution to the ecosystem that translates into real dollars and it can just be nice to you. Know sit in the shade of a tree. My my thanks. Rob me as for joining us as always thank you. And now we check back in with nick lumbergh. Who's in evanston as a part of our chicago tonight in your neighborhood series nick. Thanks brandis. i'm here with nicole. Denise pinker professor of northwestern school of education and social policy. Thanks so much for coming out tonight. Little chilly but we're happy to have you So north western is an anchor institution here in evanston but you know like a lot of universities and the places where their base that relationship can sometimes be a little tough a briefly. What's what's the relationship like these days. I think the town relationship in evanston is stronger than it has been. I think our president mardi shapiro has really made the focus of the relationship. Important has done a lot of work. We've had something called the mash up where we focus on bringing residents together business owners but also everyday people together with faculty and staff to get to know each other and i think is in those connections that you figure out the one off events in the things make the relationship stronger so i think we're every university in town is a little problematic but i think ours is much stronger so one of those connections that Between the university in the city that you work on involves a partnership with local schools. What is the goal of that program. I mean schools matter rice schools libraries parks and you really want them to be strong and so the opportunity for university to work with their local school district from a research standpoint the opportunity to walk into a school To really get to know the kids in the faculty and the dive into deep problems issue. That's what we're focusing on. And so we've been doing both with the district sixty five which is the k. Eight district is really trying to understand out of school. Time understand still and really figuring out how to help families figure out how to integrate stem and how to help the school. District's do that also and then the High school We've have something called a new academy where we're really working equity issues and to make sure that all students have access to College opportunities and to work with families to make sure those happen and a really strong initiative. It's called near which is north. Western education educates northwestern evanston educational research alliance. Which is so unique about this. Normally you think about faculty members have research questions and we bring them to the schools but here that schools the teachers come to us and say these are the questions we have. And can you help us solve those in. So i think they're really unique. Unique type question. Really focused on the problems at the school districts. Bring to the table. that's really interesting. Can you mentioned things like parks. You know how resources like that that. Maybe don't come to mind when people think about educational resources you know. Why are those important as well for students so if we think about learning and if you think about how you spend your time growing up yes you spend your time at schools but you spend your time the library. You spend your time in the park. He learned to play sports teamwork. All of those things happened in civic resources that the city's decided how to allocate so the working here in evanston the parks. The libraries in the schools have really worked together to say. How can we think these resources together and make them visible to families so what we do is a lot of looking at the equity in access to those resources and figuring out how to make them more equitable more useful. And so this summer. We're doing a a program with the uae with the parks in the library where we're going into the fifth ward parks and we're bringing in summer camp right to the kids right in the park right outside them and we see all of that is learning so education combined with parks libraries. It's one big learning ecosystem and speaking of learning. We've got about thirty seconds left as as a teacher. This has been a really tough past year for a lot of students. How have you seen that Impact the the folks who you're helping to educate. Yeah i think. I northwestern students has impacted because everyone's remote but also elementary and high school students. And i think part of what we've been able to do here in evanston is figure out opportunities to come outside of the home To go into the parks into pop up events. But i think really what has made us think that learning is doesn't just take place in the school and we have to think creatively about how to connect ourselves in each other beyond just our somewhere in the school day all right we'll nicolaides pinker northwestern university. Thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it. That's all for us from evanston back to you in the studio. Nick thank you and now to amanda finicky and an all new ask geoffrey. Amanda thanks brandis. Now what can an apartment building in logan square that once hosted royalty tell us about chicago's norwegian american community. Jeffrey bears here with the story of the north scott club. In this week's ask geoffrey. Geoffrey exciting. I've never done one of these before. Saying i'm excited to and so is for. Ken larsen because he has proposed this question. He's from batavia and asks. The building at twenty three fifty north kenzi in logan square seems to be home to apartments or condos but the building itself is different from typical chicago apartment buildings. What's the story so jeffrey. What is the story okay. Well first. let's take a look at the building in question of this is emptied on kenzi boulevard in the logan square neighborhood. Just south of fullerton and our questionnaire is absolutely correct of the building. Today is indeed condominiums but it sure doesn't resemble the classic chicago three flat or six flat. So why is that well. The building was once home to a social club for norwegian americans. Approximate called enor- ski club or clue but sometimes k. Other club commissioned the building. I'm chad in one thousand. Nine hundred seventeen. As a gathering place for parties exhibits musical theater performances dinners all celebrating norwegian heritage amend. It does have a distinctive scandinavian type. Since you can see in dragon motif. Alana reuss live was a popular norwegian symbol from the viking. One of the architects of the building at one point was president of the club but he was a pretty famous architect in his own right zuma give his name pronounced team. You've ever spoke with a g. Among other things he oversaw the fabrication of the steals structural frame of foreign the statue of liberty which had been designed by gustave eiffel. The other architect yavuz partner. Frederick dickel bird of helped design new york stains flat iron building chicago railway exchange building. Daniel burnham both architects. It comes chicago to work with burnham on the eighteen ninety three world's columbian exposition of club members. Were originally all male middle class. Professionals doctors lawyers and like women were allowed to join the club around one thousand nine hundred forty. According to one former club president we spoke with and fans of the masterpiece series atlantic crossing a wtt. W will be excited to know that. This building in fact did host. Norway's crown princess martha prince olaf to the main characters net drama This was nineteen thirty nine the year before the princess returned to the us as a refuge. I struck a possibly not so innocent. Relationship with fdr olah actually returned to the north club decades later as king in the nineteen seventies events. The club became less frequent as americans moved out to. The suburbs of the building was converted to apartments in the nineteen nineties. Love that royal connection. Now jeffrey i've got a little bit of sweden me and so know about the scandinavian connection to andersonville. But why was the norske club located in logan square right well for decades in the nineteenth century in particular a logan square and all part where the epicenters of chicago's norwegian american community. There was a main brag. Commercial strip on north avenue For many many years humbled part hosted the norwegian constitution day parade eighteenth celebrating the signing the country's constitution in eighteen fourteen which is often called norway's fourth of july it's now held annually actually impart ridge after being canceled for the pandemic last year. It's coming back and just a few weeks. On may sixteenth. There are ridge and norwegian community even found a way to pursue their passion for ski jumping in famously flat chicago in one thousand nine hundred five. Those regions a found a slope west of the city in fox river grove to build the nordea ski club which is still going strong. And it's important training center for olympic ski jumpers impressive now all right has with so many immigrant groups that culture is also reflected in churches to. That's absolutely true. One time there were norwegian churches all over on logan square hole part including this one on right avenue. That's now private. Home are the last remaining. Norwegian church in the city is the norwegian lutheran church which is a landmark and is one of the most identifiable buildings and logan square that red brick and towering spire of today church leaders say. This is one of only two churches in the united states. That still faces party in norwegian the other ones in minneapolis other churches. Really the center of chicago's present day. Norwegian american community chicago areas are now reaching their community and many residents come from the suburbs. All over the city for services and other events. And just this month The church embarks honey ambitious restoration of its street facade. After extensive water damage was discovered hence. The band aid there. It's partially funded by the city grant and the church raising the rest of the button. Private even with that band-aid absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much jeffrey. That was enlightening as ever. And don't forget that you can visit our website for more details about the ski club and while you're there. Don't forget your own question to jeffrey bear. That's at w t w dot com slash. Ask geoffrey up. Next rare color photos of dr martin luther king junior at elmhurst museum. But i look at the weather paul with chicago. Tonight is made possible in part through the generous support. Julius frankel foundation the new exhibit at the elmhurst art museum is using photography to explore. Chicago's family history. Featuring rare color photos of dr martin luther king junior during the chicago freedom movement arts correspondent angel edo recently went for a visit. Here's another look these rare color images of dr king marquez time in chicago in the nineteen sixties. They were captured by. Weeden based photographer bernard claim. Yeah they say that photograph is worth a thousand words. I think that's true. Cleanest work in civil rights began during his time as a priest. When he responded to dr king's call for clergy and selma alabama. he then went on to capture dr king during the chicago freedom movement a protest against discriminatory housing practices. Those images are now on display at the elmhurst. Art museums new exhibit in focus. I was surprised and even shocked at the violent response to dr king in my naievety. I never realized that there'd be so much anger against him for doing. What's right so i was able to document daft and at times i was in the demonstrations at times i was photographing and in both cases i realized how divided we are and were in chicago and in the nation from redlining blockbusting to white flight the exhibit also features statistics that highlight the areas most impacted by these discriminatory housing practices. I would like to say that everything has changed is not change. There's still discrimination in housing there still segregation because of that discrimination of vast difference in the wealth of people colorado supposed to white americans that means that they have less to leave to their children. The exhibit also explores the current and future state of fair housing as depicted in images by photographer sean jordan junior every racist separated by the own neighborhoods but their protests. People were coming from south to north east to west. Everyone must come together to fight for this. I think people understood. If the protests started off peacefully was derailed outside agitators. they always came that idea of piecing unity. When we look back at what dr king's messaging was he wanted people to stay peaceful and get their message across without violence. One of the exhibitions many takeaways. Is that fair. Housing is not just a city issue. It affects suburban communities as well. We're hoping that people will understand. Is the depth of this issue everywhere. We're hoping that soul-stirring photographs of these photographers will carry some of those messages. And we can realise things like you know. The color in vivid color of bernie klein is photographs from the nineteen sixties really helps transport us to that period and we realize it happened not so long ago when people see what's going on. They're more responsive they understand immediately. Hurt the danger that has been imposed on so many people young people old people so i encourage people to keep their cameras in their hands and out of their pockets or chicago tonight. I'm angel ito the exhibit in focus. The chicago freedom movement and the fight for fair housing is at the hearst art museum until june twentieth. And that's our show for this thursday night don't forget to stay connected with us by signing up for our daily briefing and you can get chicago. Tonight streamed on facebook youtube band. Our website wbz dot com slash news. 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131. Narratives in Cardiology: Health Equity, Community Based Participatory Research, & Underrepresented Minority Women Physician-Scientists with Dr. LaPrincess Brewer

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131. Narratives in Cardiology: Health Equity, Community Based Participatory Research, & Underrepresented Minority Women Physician-Scientists with Dr. LaPrincess Brewer

"Worldwide cardiovascular disease affects the lives of hundreds of millions dedicated cardio nerds everywhere are working hard to fight this global epidemic. These are their stories. Hey cardi nerds. Health inequity refers to avoidable differences in health between different groups of people in this powerful installment of the heart. Eaters narratives and cardiology series. We learn from dr la princesse brewer and opera neuro a hanes how we can convert health inequity to health equity by partnering and empowering and building bridges with members from the community. The patients themselves using community based participatory research. We learn about impactful programs that they have developed and lead with incredible success and we also discuss their perspectives as underrepresented minority women physician scientists as coined by albert. We'd like to offer a special. Thanks to dr sharon hayes endocrine michelle for being keyed mentors for the narratives series and especially for making this episode. Possible this incredible discussion is brought to you. In collaboration with the association of black cardiologists the abc's mission is to promote the prevention and treatment of cardiovascular disease including stroke in blacks and other diverse populations and to achieve health equity for all through the elimination of disparities. You may join and support. Abc at ab a ardito dot. Org friends we thank you for subscribing to and the carter's this podcast is not meant to be used for medical advice. The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect the opinions or policies of art. Employers speaker disclosures are available in the episode description. There no commercial or in kind support for this activity be showed a claim credit using the link of the episode description. We are so honored to welcome back. Dr carissa hanes one of our narratives fit advisers and to be welcoming for the very first time and hopefully not the last time dr princess poor in absolute leader and visionary when it comes to tackling disparities in the care of minority communities. I have the privilege in pleasure of introducing nurse. A hanes who's currently a third year cardi algae fellow at the university of pennsylvania. Her interests include global cardiovascular health. She has spent several years working for i. In haiti community engagement. Community based participatory research and implementation science. She is currently obtaining a master of science in health policy. She also serves as a fellow representative to the board of abc while a fellow she cofounded initiative entitled safe haircuts as we reopened philadelphia. Barbara end salons sharp which focuses on helping local predominantly black owned businesses. Stay safe during covid. Nineteen through infection mitigation education donations and cove nineteen vaccine education and mental health support. Nerissa welcome welcome to the show. Thank you so much. It's wonderful to be back and thank you for the fantastic introduction. I'm really excited for this episode. End to talk to dr brewer. Sure that excitement orissa and for what's bound to be a very special discussion. We decided to invite a very special person to actually introduce dr bernard. This person has dedicated herself to the care of women to tackling healthcare inequities. She's an advocate. For professional diversity in devoted mentor to so many dr sharon hayes fittingly is also very devoted mentor to docker poor as well as us cardiac so here is dr hayes. Introducing dr poor. Hello i'm doctor sharon hayes. I'm a non invasive cardiologist at mayo clinic in rochester minnesota. And i am thrilled to tell you a bit more about your guest today dr leprince. Brewer is a trusted and valued colleague and friend a gifted researcher and a woman of faith by day. She is a cardiologist and assistant professor in the department of cardiovascular medicine at mayo clinic in rochester minnesota. She is the first african american woman to join our staff she is also a rockstar in in the next couple of minutes. I will tell you why. I i met dr brewer when she was deciding where she would do cardiology fellowship. She had had some experience mayo clinic as a student so she knew a bit about the organization but she truly had many options in front of her. The minute i met her. I knew that she really needed to come to mayo clinic to train for many reasons but selfishly because i wanted to work with her and she did join us in twenty twelve for her clinical fellowships in cardiology and then an additional year specializing in preventive cardiology originally from north carolina. Prior to coming to mayo. Dr barua received her bachelor of science magna cum laude in chemical engineering from howard university. Then she got her. M p h from the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health. She also spent time at the age as a post bac research training and got her. Md at the george washington university school of medicine. She completed internal medicine residency training at johns hopkins university. Where she was mentored. By dr lisa cooper and others who spurred and supported her interest in community based participatory research and baltimore flash forward to arrival in frigid town. Minnesota both the culture and climate shock from day. One at mayo. Dr brewer has focused laser lake in her research. Activities on addressing health disparities through community based behavioral interventions and for cardiovascular disease risk factor modification and racial and ethnic minority populations and in particular african americans from early in her fellowship when she started building relationships with local community in black churches to today in the middle of pandemic her charlie every clinical effort and research crushing has voted to improving the care and outcomes of those who have often been forgotten. I've been so privileged to be a small part of dr bruce career so far. She is currently principal investigator of the nih funded faith trial. Fostering african american improvement in total health. Cardiovascular health promotion intervention in partnership with african american churches. I've learned so much. With and from dr brewer. We have worked together and sharing heart. Health messages and church. Basements participated in readdress and red tyson days and work with pastors and their first lady's on a common goal to improve their health of their congregations. I watched her navigate. The ins and outs of it. An app development driving innovative research practices at mayo clinic and exploring licensing and funding sources. It has been both joy and privilege watching her shepherd the development of a culturally tailored personalized app for cardiovascular health. It has the strength of both the science and the people for whom it was intended behind it. This work has truly paid off for those engaged with dr brewer. Her foundational work in the community build trust and provided insights that preceded the covid nineteen pandemic so in these same communities face widespread misinformation woefully insufficient p p. and no access to covid nineteen testing. She jumped in to address. The highest felt needs including the development of disaster planning protocols for the churches and bringing quick turnaround covid nineteen testing facilities to the most affected and often forgotten neighborhoods through her work. She has become a nationally recognized expert and his highly sought after for advisory boards and speaking engagements and while it would take too long to list all of the awards in recognition. She's received just google for. I'll mention a few recent ones. She was twenty nineteen minnesota public radio news change maker and a twenty twenty history maker at home for the city of minneapolis and twenty twenty. She was also recognized by the national medical association. As top healthcare professional forty her community health advocacy efforts have also been featured on both local and national media including essence. Cbs pbs cnn. And the huffington post. She's an active member of the national medical association. Minnesota association of black physicians american heart association and the association of black cardiologists. And she's a fellow of the american college of cardiology and the american society of preventive cardiology. She serves on committees and advisory boards for these organizations. She gives back in many ways including becoming a dedicated mentor of junior scholars and community members and in ensuring the voices of community are heard. This means that you will see many community names next to hers. In publications as co presenters and at with her at meetings to present her science doctoral apprentice brewer has taught me much and i have been so honored and blessed to be a part of her personal and professional journey. I would be remiss if i didn't acknowledge our mutual love of small dogs. Her highly photogenic adorable. Yorkshire terrier gizmo is truly a bright spot with that i will turn it over to the cardio nerds and dr brewer. So with that doctor. Poor we are so honored to finally have you on the show and show these moments with us. Welcome thank you. i'm tearing up over here. Hearing my beloved mentor. dr hayes. Speak about our journey together. Every since i was a student all the way to now so that was fantastic. And i'm so honored and i'm just so excited and honored to have been invited today included in this wonderful initiative. So thank you for having me. Well thank you so much. And i would like for us to get started. Would you mind describing for us. What faith is and why faith was needed of course so faith is an acronym so every good cardiovascular researcher has to have an acronym for their studies actually stands for bostering african american improvement in total health and cardiovascular health and wellness program to promote cardiovascular al among racial and ethnic minority groups through innovative community based behavioral interventions. And we use a community based participatory research or are referred to from hereafter see b. pr approach to develop genuine relationships with organizations serving marginalized and socially economically disadvantaged populations in we currently have partnerships with african american churches and community health centers in rochester as well as the twin cities metro area. We have over a decade of collaborations with the african american community and track record for improving their health and just for our listeners. Cpr is a form of community engaged. Research in which community members are involved throughout the research office from conception of the research question intervention designed to actual implementation and dissemination of the findings. And i love. Cpr it really emerged. In light of the recognition that our traditional research approaches have just failed to resolve the health disparities among vulnerable populations. And just listening to my community members. They've also expressed discontentment that you know. The knowledge gained from research is not directly of benefit to them in all times. They feel exploited or us so cpr. Pr can serve as a bridge if you will to fill this gap in it also embodies team science. Because everyone's at the table working towards a collective i can give you a little bit of background about faith. It does have roots in baltimore maryland. Where i did my doctor. He's mentioned so. I'm going to start it with a class project during public. Health studies at johns hopkins and we were charged as classmates to develop a potentially sustainable community base intervention address health disparities in the surrounding community in baltimore maryland in east baltimore which is predominantly african american and as a group we felt at partnering with a trusted institutions within this community would be essential so we decided to partner with none other than the black art. We aren't with the church. That was actually just a stone's throw away from johns hopkins and you could actually see the hopkins medicines. I and interestingly no entity from hopkins had ever partner with this church on any sort of health related programming so we were right on time. The the church pastor in a welcomed us really with open arms. He was eager to develop his health ministry and he was fairly new at the church. And we co-developed attrition education program with the church pastor in auxiliary leaders to meet the needs of the congregation and i maintained a relationship with this church round my residency at hopkins unfortunately was accepted into cardiology fellowship at mayo clinic through the help and guidance of actress sharon hayes and before i let baltimore. The church. members pleaded with me and not let go of faith is that it really had an impact on the culture of the church in really cared. This with me as i transitioned here to the time Rochester minnesota in twenty thirteen endure my second year of cardiology fellowship. I was fortunate to have support from our ship directors in the department mayo clinic to then bring faith year to rochester so in all there but that's just kind of the background of where fade started. And how it got to rochester minnesota. That is very impressive. Documentary and at somebody at hopkins. Now i know that there is a real emphasis on community engagement so you may have started something or reinforce something that there needs to be worked on and actually i've had the opportunity to be on to community phone calls at of how i talk to the local neighbourhood about. What's going on kobe in the hospital out of hospital and it's a really refreshing relationship so thanks for bringing that up and it's unbelievable to imagine that you started faith as a fellow. What exactly motivated you on a personal level to start faith in the first place. Some have always had a passion for eliminating health disparities in. I've always enjoyed wade developing solutions to complex problems. And i really think the stems from my engineering background. It was one of the reasons that went into cardiology of the such. A fascinating. Feel with so many different arenas to bring your expertise that it's constantly evolving so through my public health training i was able to learn evidence based in supportive strategies to tackle health disparities and then i took those schools that i learned to apply them to develop as in another. Why if you will is to wanted to continue this. In minnesota after transitioning from maryland is. Because there's this common misconception here minnesota and really across the nation that minnesotans here are just healthiest as can be and you know. Minnesota has really been consistently designated as one of our nation's healthiest states. But when you dive. Deeper into the data in look at the differences lacks in. Minnesota are really worse off their two times more likely to die from cardiovascular disease than whites and they're less likely to have their hypertension under control. You know as we know that will place them at even greater risk or cardiovascular disease. So that's what motivated me to start and to keep faith going. I really appreciate you highlighting that doctor. Because i remember when i was growing up as a medical student and thinking about the kind of impact. I wanted to have where i wanted train. I always had this notion in my mind you know. The the areas of need are the areas that are urban. But really there's need everywhere you have to look and oftentimes not too far. I imagine orissa you found need all around you as well because i noticed some perils between faith and the incredible work that you're doing with the community engagement out of barber shops and salons over there in philadelphia. So tell me how you get involved with that. And what was your role. Sure i have always been interested in community. Engagement and listening. To dr brewers speak. I think you're right. There are a lot of parallels. I also enjoyed tackling complex issues for which solution usually involves teamwork and i participated in a few community facing initiatives. While i was in college in once at penn creek. Ovid i was involved in ece. May and they ran a program entitled cut hypertension and through Hypertension of the medical students would go into local barber shops and screen clients for hypertension. And i started working with the medical. Students says a cardiology fellow to improve screening and eventually met a medical student who would become the co founder of sharp with me. I specifically got to know a number of the barber's of very well and one barber shop owner in particular pre pandemic. His name is darrell. Thomas and he owns philly cuts in west philadelphia used to host town halls in his shop. That i would attend frequently and i greatly enjoy learning the history of west philadelphia in the needs of the community through those interactions. That is actually fascinating. Also really really inspiring orissa. Your work community clearly had a large impact on you. Why was working specifically in barber shops and salons so important to you well. Barbara shaw since salons are among the first generation of black businesses they bring financial vitality to their communities. They are more than just places where people go to get their hairstyle cut but they also service places where people socialize fellowship share information and educate one another and like the church. They are trusted entities in the community barbers in stylists have very personal relationship with their clients and they know the community very well and two parallel that after hearing some of the development that dr bruce did with faith through my own work in the community. I'm very interested in implementation science but the devil is always in the details. But what you've been able to accomplish with faith is truly extraordinary logistically. How did you establish maintain faith as a busy cardiologists awesome question. And i'm sitting here. Why be my forehead right now. You know no simple and easy be community based work is time intensive and it really takes a sincere and dedicated movement. I must say that my community partners and the communities. I've had the blessing to serve really motivate me to continue to do this work especially when it gets tough and challenging. It's not always butterflies rainbows. It's an absolute honor in privilege to work alongside amazing community partners in and just seeing how much they care about. The health and wellness of their communities is inspiring. They're truly brilliant insight fall in. They always have my back when it's really beautiful. Just looking back over the years just to see how our relationship has blossomed and oftentimes. I'll say you know what. I'm giving a talk that we did this and we did that. When discussing our work with eighth we include my community partners and dr hayes also brilliantly stated this that we were together in basements of churches developing these relationships that really grew into something much larger a really takes that investment of time and one of my colleagues consistently states that right in the middle of the work community. Is you in. I saw that totally brings home the point that you cannot do comedian gauge research alone. Thanks so much for that. And we can really appreciate the power of weei when the collective gets together and leaves the walls of whatever institution there and just beaches after their neighbors in there so much that could be accomplished. When there's that collaboration in speaking of extraordinary can you tell us a little bit more about sharp. What is sharp. How did it get started. In what needs did you hope to address surest so sharp which against stanford saint haircuts as we reopened philadelphia. Barbershops salons started after darrell thomas. The owner fully cuts which out to crystal hill of the co founder of sharp in myself and he had very specific questions about how he could keep his business cease during the pandemic and from that conversation we started to help darryl as well as a number of other businesses in the community implement proper covid nineteen safety practices in to keep themselves their businesses clients and staff safe from Quickly built a team that included students trainees faculty as well as infectious disease specialists and together we were able to create a safety blueprint for the shops. That met the see health department of philadelphia guidelines. You're also able to receive personal protective equipment. Donations from the university of pennsylvania and accenture the healthcare consulting company and in total we donated thousands of ppe items to over thirty businesses in the south west and west philadelphia area and another important thing to mention. Is that since the beginning of the pandemic forty percents minority owned small businesses have been closed. We also know that these communities have been disproportionately impacted by covid nineteen. So in the words of darrell. Thomas barber shop owner. The businesses and the community at large have been suffering a physical as well as a financial death and so due to the financial toll. We also organized grant writing sessions with the net at pen to help the coalition of businesses in west philadelphia apply for governmental financial relief. Wow this is a you know in this whole pandemic era new this is so much newness so much adjusting and so it's really really valuable to attack some of these issues and get them to make a big difference. What challenges have you had while starting and running sharp so some of the challenges that i have had our juggling a busy clinical schedule as a fellow. I'm also currently getting a master so a full course load and trying to help the community at the same time so like after look prince brewer said. It's very difficult. It's a lot of work but we do it because we're very passionate and cared deeply about the community. You can't do this kind of work and put so much time and effort into this. If this were a calling there was something. Dr bursts said earlier. that really stuck with me declaration. You said something about the community. That i've had the blessing to serve. Is that combination of words as does nothing self-aggrandizing or self promotional about that about serving the community. It's about taking care of people around you. You're such a gift. Both you guys such gifts to the communities that you're serving but you like you're the blessed what i've heard nerissa speak in very similar language. So it's really touching very inspiring and moving to to promote this kind of work. So i just have to congratulate universal for all of this incredible worth. You're doing with sharp. The support you provide as committee is just invaluable in that you were able to design and execute it. All fellow is inspiring to say the least so speaking of meeting people where they're at and lifting that community tucker. How did you decide to partner specifically with a black faith community. Thank you so much for your kind words again. It definitely is a blessing and you do have to have a colleague to do this. Work as imaging there are challenges in as orissa mentioned having your community partners working alongside. You really makes this worthwhile. So i really wanted to congratulate her on her work with sharp end barbershops and salons so you know we partner with the black faith community or what we fondly referred to as the black church because it's been the longstanding institutional backbone of african american community and in my opinion it was the unprecedented social networking platform among african americans. So everyone looks at the church. You know what's going on in the community and long is long before there was any you know. Social networking like black twitter. I was honored to collaborate with a scholar and health equity research leader. Dr david williams recently on an editorial published in the american journal public health and twenty. Nineteen minute highlighted. How the black church. In faith based organizations really have been at the forefront of health promotion through community based interventions in underserved communities since its inception hundreds of years ago and there have been several successful community based interventions delivered in partnership with african american churches even prior to faith that we have modeled that have improved cardiovascular risk of faith community in african american. So why not the black church. I guess is the question. It's the centerpiece of african american community. Why not the black church. Indeed and whatnot barbershops also underestimates them in other the fulcrum of the community so for this committee engagement to be successful impactful effective. You need to gain the trust of the people you need to have buy in from them. They need to believe that you have their best interests at heart so for both faith and for sharp power. These projects initially received by the community. And did you find yourself. Welcomed with open arms. Or did you have to build that trust over time before you could have that impact. I love this question because it really speaks to the process au community engagement and humility. And what that means in how you have to carry that with you while doing this type of work. So faith was welcome with open arms during the early days in baltimore and i believe this was likely due to our approach of meeting our flagship church there in east baltimore where they were and asking them directly. What would your congregation wants in a health promotion program rather than going in saying. Hey we have this and this for you. This is what you need to do. We ask them. What do you want and also having buy and from the church. Pastor to bring the program into the church was also key however interestingly. I was not welcome with open arms initially to the rochester minnesota faith community although i had initial buying from the church pastors as they wanted to improve the health of their members. This was not the case from the actual congregation members. So i can clearly see it now. During my first meetings with the congregations whole there was clear skepticism towards me. I received so many questions and kind of side. I looks of kind of why are you here. Why did mayo clinic in utah. Church and also distinctly. Remember someone telling me to sit down. And i didn't take that personally as i was actually standing up and showing a powerpoint slides and a sued but it really was a teachable moment that you have to kind of shed all that back take that off in. Just sit down and really meet people where they are and look at the items in you can only imagine how shocked i you know as black physician to to be on the receiving end of these comments and in a in a church of all places in although there were comments about prior historical at the coal research. Wrong smell like tuskegee. Syphilis study and in my opinion this skepticism actually was stemmed from a lack of outreach if you will historically by our institutions at this community which led to their distrust of my intentions so i knew there was a huge elephant in the room at needed to be addressed so i actually took a step back from the research itself in. Actually listen to them. In del deeper into their concerns in overtime we develop a trusting relationship in my biggest adversaries are my biggest cheerleaders and they wanted to know that i was in this process for the long run and not just a hit and run to data to advance my career. Why this whole story and process that you went through sounds is is nothing that i would have necessarily expected for sharp. Initially we were well received because in many ways the community reached out to us for help. But i i will say that. It took a while to develop the relationship with the shops and with the barber's stylists through Hypertension so those relationships were built over a number of years so that when the pandemic hit they felt comfortable reaching out to us for assistance. We eventually were well received by the majority of the coalition of businesses because we were introduced to them by daryl right and so they trusted him. He trusted us by proxy redan accepted by route. But i i will echo the sentiments of dr brewer. We did also encounter some skepticism at first due to historical lack of outreach and and so we had to definitely overcome that you know tried to show that we although we're physicians and there's a history of lack of maybe outreach. From a number of institutions across the country. We were there to help and to do best we could for the community you know these parallels and also the contrast between two startup stories or your origin stories. Working with the community are very interesting and and obviously no place is alike Would you have been able to do and achieve has is absolutely amazing. And i'm sure there are many other cities out there. That could benefit from having innovators collaborators in people with so much heart and passion such as yourselves and you know just hearing those stories before may really inform what you'd answer me to this next part but what would you say to others hoping to bridge gaps in care connect with communities however they begin like what would be a good strategic way to initiate a program. Such as the ones that you've started. So i must say that really conducting this type of work is not easy but as we both have expressed it's so fulfilling and it is not for the faint of heart as you really have to learn to be adaptable in have cultural humility. If you will and you have a genuine heart and commitment to the community and keen ability to listen because immunity can see right through those engines. Been through so much themselves at. They know when you are not sincere. And i'm very over protective. Do of our community members is. I really wanna make sure that they're not taken advantage of but instead that they're partnered with by those that are really interested in doing this type of work and i really would tell others interested in community engaged research or even along the full spectrum to cpr to really begin within introspective reflection on. Really why do you want do this type of work and then take time to build relationships with and understand the culture of the population that you want to serve. And i always find it difficult when people say oh you know. That's a hard to reach ovulation. They're just so hard to reach but always respond and say have you tried hard enough to reach them and and that really makes people reflect on why they want to do this and how they are going about doing. This work agree with dr completely in. I will say that having worked on sharp for while in order for community level programs to be effective. It's important for them to be well. Resourced which is sometimes an issue and community members should have a seat at the table and there needs to be trust without trust. You have nothing. There needs to be positive relationship building with respect understanding and humility in order to build trust and to develop powerful impactful relationships in at the end of the day no change moves at the speed of trust. So unless you have bat it's not going to be an effective of ineffective program that makes a lot of sense. You know we talk about building a therapeutic alliance with our individual patients but you're talking about is really fostering beth therapeutic alliance with the community as a whole so. I wanted to ask a question that came up in my mind after reading the paper. Hashtag me who by dr michelle albert. The president of the association for black cardiologists at ritchie wrote about some of the challenges unique to underrepresented minority women physicians scientists in. I'll quote from that paper. Many your m faculty are often pulled between passion or obligation for providing clinical care at the community level which arguably has positive health benefits to both providers and patients and an interest in academic endeavors the current model that isolates academia for practice fails the needs of patients providers and communities. I think what she was getting at. Is this sort of academic ascension right dislike tenure track to becoming a professor doesn't always prioritize patient care or community service and in parallel to that grant funding nih funding doesn't necessarily prioritize research into health. Inequities but dr board. Just it's just incredible. How effectively you've paired your passion and zeal for community service and improving the health of underserved populations with academic achievement the recognition that you're bringing into. This area is so admirable. And i'm wondering what would you say to so many young as people like nora saw or people who maybe are haven't had as much as she meant as neuroscience had who who are so passionate about community service in taking care of people who are underserved but maybe are discouraged by what they see around them in terms of how you know what's prioritized in terms of academic achievement. What would you say to those bright young trainees who who are future leaders medicine. He has thank you so much. I mean this is great to have opportunity to speak on especially after reading the city of dr michelle. Albert's of editorial and commentary on this piece. And i oftentimes tell my colleagues on that are also african american cardiologists physicians that she was speaking directly to me and i said i really wish that she would have had a case study. You know kind of at the very end of her paper to highlight You know my story to but she Definitely resonated with me. But i would give advice to others really trying to navigate academia and trying to balance their values. And what's most important to them from a research in community outreach standpoint is that you can integrate these together. I have clearly been able to do that have been able to merge not only my public health population health community engagement in service interests with my love of preventive cardiology and and training. So it can't be done but you really just have to. You know at one of the questions. Presented was the recipe for success. I i must say that. Once i stopped comparing myself to others as away from my own personal development. I became more confident in my abilities to do this type of work. And fortunately i've been able to become an accomplished cardiologists and community leader and advocate. But unfortunately competitiveness is really ingrained in our medical training. And you know it's really something that we have to overcome. But really i just encourage those that are interested in this type of work that can be done. It can be recognized as true science and not just service and you can feel fulfilled and also be rewarded for the time and effort that you put into thank you so much for and if i might make an observation you strike me as someone who's not driven by these external rewards of being recognized but rather going back that language use yourself feeling blessed to be able to serve the community. It's it's that calling and everything else is sort of the fruits of labour but the primary goal is calling to serve the community. You know but there is a way to to be recognized and appropriately so that climate academic ranks. Because that's also important to to carry the work forward mentor others to inspire to do similarly on the topic of dr michel. I have to say we feel so fortunate to also be able to call her in adviser especially for this narrative series. We've been so touched and inspired by the work that the for black cardiologists have been doing very impactful and so your fellow member of a board. Why do you think that the abc is uniquely important. In how has it helped your career l. Thank you for that question. Michelle albarn was well as Princess borough phenomenal. Mentors and i will say that. Abc is unique because as an organization it has focused on health equity diversity and inclusion for nearly fifty years and achieving equity is a core mission of the abc is also unique because it provides access to a network of professionals were deeply passionate about the wellness and health of vulnerable communities in many members such as dr la prince's brewer have made achieving health equity their life's work. The abc has helped me in my career in professional development tremendously through abc have received sponsorship mentorship in scholarly opportunities have also participated in several national talks and hosted events. So these experiences have helped to develop my professional confidence and my professional sense of self. If i'm going to be honest. I think that i am stronger. And more confident as a speaker researcher in leader in large part due to my participation. Abc nervosa in. That's really powerful to hear how the abc actually provides a community for you and a nurturing community at that which really is. It's almost like full cycle in terms of what you're doing for your local communities you know we've heard a lot about your passions and work in the community service base and also community engagement and we'd like to now take a few moments in the second part of this discussion to get to know both of you on a personal level and learn what we call your narratives in cardiology. So nervosa dr brewer. Do you recall what was the moment. You decided that you would become a cardiologists e. So my a ha moment if you will was actually when i was in undergrad at howard university i actually took my summer to complete a summer. Research program at duke university. And i worked with a cardiologist. Who was a physician. Scientists and the fact that this cardiologists was able to balance both patient care and also research was just fascinating to me and i at that moment realized that i could merge kind of my desire to give back in that human touch that i was missing with my engineering studies in vengeance. Bridge that into madison. So that was my aha moment in to see that i was also able to integrate. My engineering background into cardiology was the hemodialysis. Mx and just the teamwork. That's involved was of cardiology and again as i mentioned the constant evolution in discovery of cardiology. I was totally in nerissa. You talk to us in the past how you got interested for some medicine through a pipeline program. Would you mind sharing a little bit about that. Sure so. I think the first time that i had an inkling or an idea that i may wanna be cardiologists was when i was in high school and i participated in a program called health preparation explosion recruitment program each and dr woody lee at yale ran the program. He was a cardiologist and he took me under his wing and left a lasting impression on me and i remember wanting to be just like him and due to that early mentorship. I was drawn to cardiology from a young age. That's really incredible and returning back to that paper by doc. Michelle albert hashtag me. Who i'd like to read an excerpt. She wrote that underrepresented women physician. Scientists are isolated because of a lack of critical mass by boats. Sex and race. Ethnicity women and your ems represent only fifteen percent and two to four percent of cardiologists respectively. He subsequent isolation impedes the social engagement necessary for academic and personal success drivers of this isolation include are not limited to lack of racial and ethnic diversity racial and ethnic discrimination from patients and families bias from superiors and colleagues. A hyper vigilance from stereotype threat. Reactions to tokenism and in some cases misguided promotion of only one year end as being successful for minority women. These experiences are further amplified by social environments. Which may create an paraphrasing which may create a circumstance that promotes lack of shared social experience. With on your women and successful men of any race or ethnicity so this is a pretty loaded excerpt but docteur are there elements of this that you find relatable yes definitely so as i mentioned you know when i was reading this phenomenal work. It truly resonated with me. Because i could see myself interwoven into many of the lines of dr. Albert's abor many of the challenges that you pointed out from this expert. I've dealt with them sure. Dr hanes has also felt throughout her training as a cardiology fellow as well and it really highlighted sometimes. It's lonely at the top right. You know we use accomplish so much In it took so much for us to get here but actually when you actually get there you know. They're they're not that many underrepresented minorities in cardiology. But i think this actually brings home. The point at the risk of mentioned that organizations such as association of black cardiologists are so fiddle to our success. Because they do foster that nurturing environment and we do the others that look like us and we can be supportive of one another in afford each other opportunities again. It's a blessing to be a part of this ocean of black cardiologists. And as orissa mentioned. I've also had several opportunities that have emerged from my membership in abc. In i've really had the honor of meeting several. Abc founders and just seeing their vision of achieving health equity is really motivated me to keep pushing forward into see african american women in leadership within abc such as that michelle albert really relieves inspiring in really makes the salt. Worthwhile agree with everything That dr brewer mentioned and everything that dr albert wrote elephant in her piece. It can be very challenging for a number of reasons as a m. It is lonely at the top especially when you know. You don't frequently Get to work with people who look like you. But you know. I'm encouraged because of my patients I think that our presence my presence Dr brewers presence in just having a diverse core of physicians and cardiologists is important. Right we should reflect our patient population because it makes a difference to them And i can't tell you how many times i've had patients told me that. Another proud of me. They're so happy to see me there because of the historical klein that many demographic groups have had to do in order to be able to say that their physicians to reach this point. And so again. I i completely agree with dr burin. Dr albert and i'm also very grateful for them and for the abc for that reason because it does provide a network of professionals. Who understand exactly what you are going through. As a training end and how difficult it can be sometimes and for that reason is very helpful to have associations such as of archaeologists. Thank you both so much for sharing this powerful perspectives. And what i heard both of you say is that it's lonely at the top and i get this impression that there are a lot of people feeling. Lonely is simultaneously at just not realizing that this is such a shared experience that others have as well. So while you know the numbers within our micro environments are not great there there is power in community and power in numbers from the global scale. And this is actually one of the motivation for the narrative. Series is to share that people don't have to feel lonely and isolated that these experiences that you both are sharing our shared experiences and it's important to talk about it you know it's like dr manning told us once he don't know you don't talk about right so that thought in mind doctor. What would you want to say to someone who maybe earlier in the career and is feeling lonely. Maybe doesn't have a lot of support in their micro environment. Or maybe alternatively what would you say to yourself when you were younger and just trying to figure out life you know growing up in medicine you know. I i would just say stay encouraged. Even as as i mentioned really have to yourself sometimes to keep going really go back to the foundation of why you're doing this and i think in parallel nerissa and i always go back to our patients in our communities and wanting to contribute to the greater good lord of society. And that is what motivates me in keeps me going and knowing that i'm not alone. I have this whole community wrapping their arms around me cheering me on as i'm going on to improve the health of our communities so i would just say really to stay encouraged. We're here to support each other although we may be few in number. We're we're great in the support that we can provide to win another you both strike me as people who assess current situation make changes in look forward to the future. So dr brewer. What you say. The future of cardiology looks. Like i would definitely say. The feature. Cardiology is more diverse more welcoming and continuing to evolve and i would say it's also becoming more community engaged in focused towards achieving cardiovascular health equity for all that is a future i'd like to be a toast to the Rate so again. Thank you dr brewer for joining us. Today this has been a fantastic discussion. And dr brewer. I cannot begin to tell you how encouraging your words have been for me. You've motivated me to keep going. And i'm sure you will inspire many of our listeners. As well thank you for the fantastic work that you do and for the trail that you are blazing so that people like me can have someone to follow and thank you again for joining us. Thank you again. It was truly a pleasure. Honor and a blessing data thinking muted guy unneeded to. I was so charming. You guys will miss that. I'm sorry i'll start again.

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Best of Because You Watched - Part Two

Because You Watched

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Best of Because You Watched - Part Two

"This podcast contains strong language adult themes from the outset Hello and thanks for listening to the second compilation of pictures from because you watched. We'll be back soon. With some brand new episodes. In the meantime here's a Potpourri of stupid funny and occasionally genius ideas from the show so far this episode features pitches from Adam. Hess Marcus Brigstocke David Brain Andrew Hunter Murray Georgia Maguire Michael Strategy and Maisy Adam. Adam what is your idea for feel good sports movie for ages. Eight to ten is go. Try Hard and it's about a boy so clever calm believe it a so clever that it's almost game so good did it. This is the twist twist already so this kid is so clever that he in his mass exam. He was covering kids in the whole town. And and whole Barak Borough. So clever he's going to is. The university is going to go to Matt's high and he's very masci and you so clubs having I'm outside. And but he was so good in his maths a level that no one understood the onces. Everything's so the math so well. Even the person market was not the numbers. Were too high. A scene such numbers on the highest number. What is this one guy marking? It was like done on it. So he's giving a big old big old orange zero and so we didn't get into mass high and he'd go had to go through clearing and the rules of the movie clearing the first dot over the I sent all of this. I go that and the only space left in the entire. Bara is all very baar-based center the only place on the only course left and actually entire world actually global market is to place doing a during rugby at Oxford University and he was no shock. Kush and is Condu- VOGUE BE AMOUNTING MATS. So he turns up. And everyone's like your to your deuce ten this awful fear and he says that the character says. Yo Tune Brag is his first name. Typical Brag leg. Because he's the longest so he does like every morning breaks about his rugby kids. Bernardino homeless leg kicks it. The furthest is he also doing rugby adults to kids from the same Bara. No no no. No EE GOES TO OXFORD OUT now. The big bright lights Oxford and everyone's lights was the day so it was daytime. And everyone's throwing stuff at him saying to to do this. Hey Count and finished. And so what happens is he is. He's about to the first match any and he has practice bad in the practice bother and And he's so embarrassed he's is rubbish but then he remembers. He's got a twin brother. Who's exceptional at rugby exceptional? He's very confident. He's very cool. Everyone finds him nice. And it's just an and so he just turns up so it's play by the same actor and he just say that he just let the he could have been like like like more rugby. Ish is a cool guy and then also everyone starts to love him so he does his To basically every time there's a match the brother Code John. The original character colts Johnny. You're GONNA to me. This is a could have changed that. That's what happened. That's what happened. John Daly was Google and they get to the finals. They get to define open. The twin brother very vain guy has rob so much moisturizer into his face that he can't leave his bedroom his his heads big. It affects thousands of men every year. So it's up to billy the nerd to do the rugby anthony. Does it will riot. He's doing okay he's not GonNa win but then He basically works out with some clues. The He's insane his brother never existed. Oh all in his head just just be confident and he remembers. You just got to be confident in life can do anything you want. They win the match. He's tall he's the type. The whole time immagination nation. I can't yes so out. There is no brother and he is. John is a big wasn't brother brother brother we've told. You Braga define it won't be manufacturing you find. He's one of the best in the world has ever seen. And you just like your son is not doing too great and And so he just goes also and he's fine and then he comes up a post credits. Isn't it him coming out of? This is the first thing also I saw Australia. I've never I don't think I've seen it. From which is a psychological thriller which keeps back for the first eighty minutes to keep it running and then but then you realize the clues without the whole time like if you actually watch for a second time you see this consomme by doctors and policemen every scene. You stop like if there's any threats and horror whether it's doctors with needles or whatever it is. They can't be too intense but fantasy settings and comedy maybe mitigating factors. So if it's really scary but then someone falls over into a pie supply so keep that in your back pocket. Who Do we think? Play Brag on only hammer. Oh man eventually. If you're a team and you went to Oxford University rugby and armie Hammer starts having a very intimidating. And what about billy slash? Jon Jonny Wilkinson rugby yeah absolutely yeah. He's playing wage. They'll knock off impost good news again bad news. He's forty so but good news is his career apparently ended in two thousand fourteen. So He's free in. Yeah so I got on the blow to his agents this honey percent and also it defeats the problem of having people who are good acting about spoiled. Exactly what we were talking about earlier. He'll be really good at the. Rugby is not all Marcus. What is your idea for suspenseful? Tv drama okay. So I think there is a lot to like about breaking bad and it's been very successful. So his his pitch we open on a wide shot of the motor home and Caravan. Expo in the Birmingham. Nec This post lockdown. So that's all back home. There's a lot of people that there's a lot of vehicles there on the camera. Very very slowly zooms in on what looks like quite an ordinary caravan so references to be brighter bad weather yet but this is caravan. The Dole F- posts open. Ruth maddock acts out ruth. Magic from hot hi. Everyone knows who she is. Okay coast to take Ruth. Might she looks. Exhausted has gained blotchy and read. It's very clear to the viewer immediately. There's something wrong with Ruth. Mata exa is this Gotha very soon off to his in a montage of shots that the bill. She's paying for a forty five cream off through the roof. They are massive so `rithmetic buys a caravan on the way out of the motorhome Expo. She passes a man riding a penny farthing. He's got massive and he's wearing altogether too much tweed she kicks. Open the door and says do you want to come with me. Swazi honey just gets in. Now they go to the area just nice ones eat the mumbles and they start making the most incredible reliable cross dial. Yeah he picked the right now for the jump didn't she? Yeah in the in the back of you can probably see some similarities with Reichenbach here. Yeah I'm saying I'm saying the cinematic parallels he is. He's got the end brewing expertise out the tooth in the hipster right on the on the he's got burning expounded penny. The cluelessly has A. Oh no no the other way around. He's been an amateur an amateur Bravo but magic has been a amendment a member of camera the campaign. The Ray Lyell for years and really knows what she's doing. They stopped making a massive amount of rail and gangs of hipsters from South Wales already opposition to them. You know the dog people. It turns out a Welsh as someone cooled in Paisley Adams. Rpi OFF to them. It's not what that sensible. Yeah A in Paisley Adams called you. Call is not yet. One person is related to the FAT Burger. Yeah so it's basically breaking by reliable and I would like to call it. Ada Get rail. I'll talk hailing fast because the xmas catching up with a so. What is what is her motivation for for because obviously breaking bad he's trying to get money for his family. What's `rithmetic slushy? The situation with the axe murder is out of Control. An EMT five. This is not cheap. She Choi's other am odeon across. Yeah but none of them are vital to her on the NHS right so she's really up against it. She's trying to make enough money to to to get the right. The right cranes I sat down. Just don't want to complicate it with having a family. Also think with with Ruth Magic the idea of that is she's at least cannon and she got X. on her face or is it everyone Seasonal right show side of move round body depending on the web at all in count fabrics that stress. Maybe not sure is possible to infer the future from reading her excellent. Yes yes yes. That's just got key right. And that's something. She learns from the hipster right and she just. Kohl's him the hipster Nice Israel named Barry. But that's too confusing. Because they live quite near. Barry doesn't really come of treating the accident. Has she tried a holistic approach. Just healthy eating meditation. This is what he keeps mentioning. He keeps solutions on. He's the one thing that tips a right over. She will go bat shit if you start with that stuff. If you suggesting MANUKA HONEY OH ECHINACEA. Acupuncture will so any of those. She'll got mental and that that really bills attention of like say we have a classic tense negotiations locking breaking bad and and in this particular occasion the experts crept up a neck and it's just visible above a color. You see that one of the people who's doing the negotiation with what's what's that is that I actually is so remigio On my gods don't yet out there and she starts and she starts off like she each for a hold episode and then they start saying that see had just had hammed crafted later she. She's her arm twice. She's itching. Itchy SCRATCHY SCRATCHING. And then she fucking lazy of warning sign for anyone but it goes they diagnose a warning and it is going to be violent it is get an unexpected violence violence. It much in the way that breaking bad that she does none absolutely not no guns because young South Wales but she will for example. Hubli a can of Pi. Very hard into someone's face and not caused that gas. Yeah she'll mash someone's head into one of the brewing setups you'll drown people in. I'll probably about it. So instead of dumping them in in in acid to dispose of bodies she kind of puts them in a cake. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah exactly. What if that's the make ale successful as the flavor of? Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's like Sweeney Todd. This time it's liquids. So so what do we think is a kind of conclusion to this epic tale of Real Ale? That can be on the poster. I would like to think that that. Just Lumpkin breaking bad's Mattock. Mike's an astonishing amount of money from this and in the doesn't know what to do with it and I I should stay as well this. This aisle that she's making is being sold illegally license for. You're allowed to hug bro. You're not allowed to brew and sell without a license. And that's what she's doing that where the money's coming from raise Scott she's go upwards of nine hundred million pounds. Wow on say since she spends on a forty five creed predominantly again with does it work does SMA is serves. It doesn't cure it right the thing what's what's causing next. But ultimately it's stress and her life as more and more stressful as h episode. Goes by we can say it the hit that can say it. Everyone can see except Baugh more stress. More forty-five needed the goalposts. Keep moving she stops. She has life twenty years supply and the hits like I think. I think we need to stop. Now she's like no. I might be twenty one years. We need to keep going yeah. I'd love to think that we could get sponsorship from oil item. Maybe five Nestle Yep. At every time she applies it should be like cream is is really good and it really really works. I just need more. Yeah yeah it would have raised the stakes of it. If somehow because of plot eight forty five as a company starts to go into administration and they stopped producing said e defy becomes a very rare substance. This is hard to find and you have to spend millions on if forty-five becomes was the endangered as a product surely because more valuable then wreath medic sound of Twenty S. She's got the only stock Valerie. Forty five hundred. It makes target. Nice not really going to be coming out of the woodwork. For that. S- weeks the Anchorage folks. The psoriasis sufferers hives crew is about this is not about trivializing expedite. The whole like the whole situation should be treated very seriously. It's you know. Obviously there's a somewhat comedic twist threat. That's what that's what you get with magic. She can convey. Whoa which of these twists D. You think is comedic. Well I can imagine that. There's plenty of scenes where she needs desperately put on semi forty five before some sort of important meeting and a so much forty five just slipping and sliding around this definitely. Some pratfalls foamy forty five yet apart script. I'm not against two saying things like after she drowned someone in in Iowa walking out and going he was looking Pale. How she's he's going to live matter. He was looking by cheats very well. Shifts mother can pay yen. Or what about? He wasn't exactly a barrel of law. Stuff lice. Yeah exactly. Yeah Yeah Yeah you could say he was looking like he was drowning. Ale was like wait. You put him in a node wellness fact just like a puff you could say. I D- David. What is your idea for a teen? I love movies. These actually is my favorite idea. I've ever had anything ever up okay. It's called love is war and this is about child to child was found in a cot outside of top secret military base and through various nefarious means and ways the US government adopted child t and trained shelter from birth to be the best highly trained killer or by the age of thirteen but then through really sudden unfortunate budget cuts US government. The secret military bases closed very very quickly and very very suddenly so child who is left and has nowhere to go but because of befriending one of the Trainers Ralph. Ralph puts child to up for adoption. Chelsea is dominated by Hippie family in California now called the Warren's and love is war follows the story of child to Zach as he's known Having become a teenager because he doesn't understand the concept of eighteen hundred doesn't know what it is. He doesn't know any of the things that we took for granted are and he's at high school. He's been enrolled by the warrants. He falls in love with a girl. Called Sophie Arose. So he's he doesn't understand what this is. You know the feelings consumers. They do like any teenager but he doesn't really understand what was going on so at the same time. He's he's hiding his superpower so to speak and he's falling in love with Sophia rose. There's a challenge from Russian intelligence aware. Who Child to and therefore is and where he is what he's doing so they're trying to get him whilst at the same time he's trying to fight them off fall in love with severe rose and learn how to be a teenager as the series goes on told you this is good. As far as the series goes on IT TURNS OUT THE SOPHIA. Rose was also come on no way. Yeah Yeah exactly. She's also a child killer. She's child three precisely throughout the series. They come they love each other for who they are trying to be and it turns out they love each other. Who Mr Mrs Smith? That for teens they come coming right really much. Thanks so how does child to dock assassin past manifest in his daily life? So he's he's GonNa struggle trying to become a normal kid is he like accidentally like grappling teachers or he's kind of On on on human kind of Mastery of martial arts coming into play. It's things like gym class and stuff like that. He has to hide the fact that he can speak all languages. The hide. I think got difficult unless someone's like off often. Chinese cry react. Okay okay. Yeah all right. Well he's the the having not knowing your own strength people say like hey buddy look alive and they throw basketball head and he just bursts it with his hands that circle thing the Oh the new kids actually yes so when he when he starts school when he starts to try and figure out himself a teenager he he thinks of his abilities are a negative but then as the as it comes in tells become more positive so went so so fear has a problem. The daughter of the adopted family that he lives with being bullied. He can deal with that in a way. That only a stone cold killer can what? All the way see deals with that. I'd love to He. Dispatches the bully classic bully. He stands up to the bullying away. The bully would never have been stood up before murdered precisely thing is lifting him off the ground all of that but there's and also trying to the point where there's no trace of anything he's done he's he's he moves in the shadows. Is it possible the so we saw a montage of him using all these things like all these sort of spy weapons I can today? And now we see like he just left in with science stuff and he's able to defend himself from bullies. But it's sort of similar to the spice stuff and he's like. Oh projector in the exactly. That sort of yeah so Russia the Russian intelligence. Kill him in high school. And he's he's he's he's using like the essentially rookie leaving no trace leaving choice. It's all because you cut the gym class down the whole cuts him fighting off the guys you can hear them. Companies like pushes. The guys in the cupboard leans against the door is Zach. Zach Jim but he's like yeah. Be there soon. Union scrapes his fingers down the to disable someone. Who's coming after him? Yes runs off and then the head teacher says Hey Zach you're sweating and then he was like gym class so exactly except Russian agents infiltrating school. Is it possible that we could insert a little bit of a sleeper agent? Is One of the students. Maybe with the Russians teaches teaches. Russian spy really looking kid. Maybe we could cost the guy from be the. There's an old looking kid called Dmitri and he's really good at stuff and everyone's auspicious him and it turns out he was just a ugly childhood. Dmitri was the is that look at the rest it and he was confiding in the whole time so he's the oil. I shouldn't tell you this but I'm connotated that's it. He's like a secret hero. Maybe Dmitri saves the day was seen turns out. Dimitri comes on the corner. It's like oh no is in trouble. He comes to meet you and then he helps them to meet. You is a good guy. We so racist a Long Beach I may. Maybe when he comes into the school as well he like he thinks everything that teenagers do really Shit. He thinks chew absolutely no and he comes in and actually he finds it really difficult to get on that level because they're they're drinking cider in playground he has to learn to cast live meant to cut loose always always on so one point on slams the locker he thinks it's gone exactly any each is about flip compete as noisy is take he. He's he's in trouble pause as an APP all funding game and he'd be like. Oh my God I nearly died. Last night he's watch take everything Chennai Andrew. Gritty mysteries is the category. What have you got for us all right? We've seen New York. We've seen south shields. I WANNA move to action to Brighton. Okay time now. One thing gritty mysteries always do they always have a corrupt man. That's a big thing. Big thing about how politics can power corrupt. So what I'd like to present for the for twist on this as an honest man. You've got the incoming new mayor of Brighton. Hembo okay what's Patty hadn't though I said name. So Patty is is the new mayor. Pregnant isn't elected position but it's done on a slightly different scheduled to the local elections but it does come with some authority now. Patty Hembo there is one where I'm going to cleave. I'm going to stay right to the former. Which is the patio. Also used to be a cop. Okay okay. She used to be a an officer. Embrace brightens force. I know the name of the enforce right. It's one of the Sussex Sussex because she was drummed out of the false unfortunately because she because of her other passion which is about urban planning okay. She's a very big urban planning geek. She loves knowing about building regulations. She knows it inside action as the rubric inside out when she was a copper. She was determined to investigate housebuilder. Who WERE NOT BUILDING? Appropriate slandered homes for residents of Brighter. All over the Sussex area. So she's really putting Ambos Paschel and she's used to fuel her in. The campaign is one of the things that go to relax it. She has to deal with a lot from a past you know. Her father went mysteriously missing. We never which never found out what happened to him and so she grew up. Kind of tough and resourceful by herself she gets into office right after her installation literally walked off the podium interoffice she's met by the shadowy cabal right peop-. I know shadowing the these are people who want to carry out They want to build the tallest building in Brighton. Right there and they think this could be a huge big contract. They don't explicitly over her a bribe but they make it clear that this'll be very good for Brighton. What's good for? Brian is good for her. You know re election is just four years away now. She suspicious and they the the building halfway up construction by the way it's already. Yeah okay. It's already the tallest building. Bryce by stretch told tallest building in Brighton of course being Sussex Heights. It's important that he's one hundred and to me. This is going to be three hundred meters tall. This is going on Youtube. Voting one hundred one hundred and fifty this kind of this massive stepped pyramid. It's not in keeping is keeping its over the Celtics really driver up. The Wall rankles like nothing. She's furious anyway. So eventually she uncovers the truth behind this. Which is that the building has got to be meeting place for crime and Crooks right not only that she she she loves that the building has now been adhering various planning regulations. And that's when she sees fully read. Okay honestly that's worse in some ways. It is many ways what we now. We have a slightly jobless switch where I don't know if you've seen films like the raid or judge. Dredd have to fight her way to the top pasta series of increasingly angry. Muscular men bryson based criminals criminals. Yeah what's called Real Quick Brighton Heights? Sussex GonNa be cool bright minds so yeah the last time. We didn't get credit frankly. I'm sick of it. Slogan is putting it on the map because it's such a big big building at the top. Who does she find her own father? The kingpin of the Bryson Hope Property racket and she gets to the top by using her knowledge of housing regulations because a lot of the regulations have made to so. If there's a fire hose her she'll be able to use that sort of pull across embroiled with a fire axe over here kind of nasty fight Z. With that so she uses knowledge of Air Ducts. Evans we'll get to the top of the building just difficult. She's murdering people to get to the top when she have to do. She kills when she doesn't she she's garage. Someone with a chain of office uh she uses all the trimmings of the mayoralty to achieve what she wants to just justice for the people of Brighton. So who's playing patty? Oh Gosh Sang father or I. Think Jennifer Lawrence's brilliant brilliant Ns. I'm sure she can do the bright accent seriously. I'm sure she can't. She is very very thompson of us are so for a father. I'm always GONNA say Charles Charleston's if I need about three hundred years old. Now he's head Racecar Suave and stuff. But he's also suggested with malice absolutely. Is She super buffer? She Super Resourceful Law. She's both you'd have to be really is everything she gets to this up. She gets the evidence she needs. She brings father in an chains back all the way down to down. Seventy two hundred seventy. Romero chained handcuffed brilliant. I love it. Yeah she does. That was the plan. And that's when the film places on on that kind of moment of justice and Brighton is kind of saved and and sorry. The film is called. This goes all the way to the top. Of course nice like then like Tall Pyramid. I think as being a pyramid so it starts unbelievably broad. Actually the base. And it's like a step honestly takes up most of the Mile Long Base Georgia. What are you pitching in? Be Party all category. I K so this Genera isn't as you may have guessed. My favorite and I have really tried to get into. It is and you say that you're holding a beer bong right now. Exactly exactly what comes on? We can see that billable time wrapped around your forehead. Face lifting a whole CAG- Malia says female body inspector fiction poster in the background other than these key news. It doesn't really fit into my life and it tends to be a bit into victim however I did have lies of fun coming up with the idea so most massive hypocrite. But that's fine. I'm full may maybe like lean into some of the troops. You know the gratuity of their offensive bit misogynistic so this is cold. Mole rats this idea skirt mole in something on your arm. Oh suddenly under the ground and rats as in Rhode so high school ned. Keith is desperate to get laid. He's seventeen he's never kissed go. And he's in love with the classic like Sexy High School. Honey Marissa Overseas Cope Marissa. Who doesn't even know. Keith's name so him and his fellow we may. Ugg and they eat pizza. Play Computer Games. I'm blank and that's the end of that wall together. You start yet another. Shed activity with the rest. Okay maybe leave the room while the other one relief and the key obviously into the dark web and in desperation in a very low moment he finds a site advertising Miracle Aphrodisiac losers. You can't get any action if you kiss the ugliest animal in the world which I would say. Objectively speaking is the naked mole rat. God bless them on a full moon. You actually become the most desirable human ever to walk this planet for a whole calendar month to kiss a naked mole rat and then ever found Z. Basically you do you know naked. Mole rats nate nate naked mole. Rats look slightly like an unsheath penis translucent full skin on shift in Harry Potter also lack of weird little baby skin. That's kind of what violent gang? They are absolutely a Mela is unbelievable. That's a real creature. I think that kind of you don't look like ginger. Ginger like bumping breathing. Ginger is on saying that. Like I don't have googly eyes on all the things that my parents were looking more at this mole rats and it's probably more of a shift penis actually anyway. Keith. Needs to find a Maura. And he does research and finds this flamboyant underground Murat dealer. He goes by the name of Zet and so thinking here. Like a cross between Joe Exotic from tikey really. No one has anything else. Better Stephen Watch with the child catcher so his creepy but wild so JOE EXOTIC DEPENDENCY. So one hitch. It's a thousand bucks for a Mora Keith. An Eugene have no money between them so despite their best efforts you know montage washing cars blah blah blah. They failed to raise the cash. Say what they do is they hoodwink said and they wrap up a bunch of monopoly. Money a Chris pity and they get the motor up so he's run out into the caw on the night of the full moon deal done and Keith manages to get in quick mole. Kiss said comes off to them and then the rest of the film is them trying to run away from said however the problem is is really difficult to go undercover because everywhere he goes he's followed by men and women throwing themselves at him because he's night whole out like an rick and mold saying seizable potion that trust to four one multi have a secret with the record motif at so for example. They govern stay at their friend. Toby's house but they have to leave because Keith Banks. Toby's mom classic anyway hearing about those songs as a teenager. Get about toby's mob. Both Keith and Eugene managed to sneak with the mole rat birth. Very good looking or is it. Kief Clark's the thing is is Eugene on that travels still managed to get action because people use him to try and get to Keith because desirable so when they get key they use eugene but Eugene doesn't cast. He's happy with anything anyway. They can't they catch with Marie. Osborne eastern obsessed with key figure. They run they have this amazing wild adventures but among later said actors up with them. Seizes the mole rat and then tells. Marie says she's been duped and the spell of Asli wears off and she's furious runs went the distance. Keith is heartbroken about however on a Story Crescent Moon Eve a few days later. Maria comes back and actually decide because she's had such a good time that she loves him. And and they live happily ever after despite Keith being laser and the credits roll we tiniest later and Keith set married with kids and Eugene. He's a trillion mole rat king rounded by Babes and loving life braves loved the mole. Rats you see on Tim's and like all the guys have pitcher them with a mole rat. Great famous I was really really harping. That was going to be a twist because he told you to kiss the most ugly thing in the world and then it would become really attractive that once he kissed the Mole Rat. The mole rat would then become really attractive. The mole rat his kids to find out so with that right. Yeah he he deals in mole rats. Yeah does he know the power of Morals? He does know the power. That's why he's charging knows who heals is also why he knows who Keith is. Once he's become handsome fight because he knows of the process. Yeah does does has used as for his own gain in the past. Oh yes that's a real. That's a real bay magnetic responsible Thiessen Keith. In is it Eugene. Yeah so keith an Eugene does. There's no saying where they actually are fully attracted to. Zad Right. They have to. I love that when they're going to buy very hetero normative this film genre to be honest as goes into lay into. They stereotypes back. I like the idea is not seen by that trying to by the Mall. Rats and veggies like so distracted by handsome. Zet is not the shots. If you're just talking they just keep kissing him out like catcher. Yes so he's definitely GonNa for going on. Yeah why not? But it's really handsome child. Also he's David Bowie and Leprince Jerry exotic and the child catcher but sexy is David Bowie in labyrinth. Yeah that's the dream character. That's what he's got in his in his pouch in his Likings you take noticeable advice. But you're handed done kiss when the moon comes out. That's what they say. I love it. Who Do we think could play? I either our favorites mole. Rats set salesperson's ahead or Eugene Kaethe or even mercer so let's start with said you do think would be a good set me use exotic scholley. I mean what's He gonNa busy out of prison? I mean maybe we can just free the ball. Maybe all of this stuff in extreme close up so you can't really tell where is he uses loads of green screens anyway. He's Allegra probably enough footage of him out that already in front of a green screen. You wouldn't even need him to act anything. Jews old footage say tree what what cheap costing as well can you change the name of the lead character to Carol Baskin directly to get in that sense? Great so what about what about our to our to lose boys. We got Keith and Eugene and as is always the case with this show technologies got to a certain point we can age anyone so your dream cast is really anyone you want to be. It doesn't have to be a young person. You know you can have Danny de Vito escaped. If you really want strict by an Eugene obviously in these types of films the ugly teen is always just a good-looking person have Latin clauses. I guess In that line you'd have to go with With get get a young Paul right if we're GONNA go with more like a a pun on the name of Mole Rats. Let's get Paul Radin Hidden. He wasn't a mole. Rats Swazi was he. No I'm thinking of the fellow from from He's very on brand though. I think he added young. Paul Rudd like Paul Rod from clueless but with flat hair and glasses. Paul Rudd as you'd never have to agent because he's basically the same since the ninety s I also said special effects to make him handsome because as you say you just stick some glasses on him and then he kisses the more and they just kind of vaporize away and that it's like Oh oh wow so good looking he do we think Eugene. He's he's not may never actually turns handsome but then becomes a A mole rat. A tycoon more mogul irony Who Disease on sorry as sensory. Oh that's the right. He's energy isn't it? Yeah he's absolutely a good for this kind of genre as well. I feel I mean you want to team there right. Well I mean the hung. We can just agents. I know what it's a lot more work for the state of looking with the I think. What a backwards baseball CAP. I don't know about you guys but I don't spend that much of my free time looking at teenagers like could I suggest a rely a relative. I was GONNA say I wouldn't be expecting you to say might my mate Dan or something five hundred teens who play a little. I guess one of the strangest stingy things kids. Oh you have dustin do you. Don't think him who run together creepiest. Hell is made any child. Paul Rudd and whoever we cast as the would be so creepy. I would actually love to blige Paul rods hair and make him said well okay. Why don't we go? Is this what you're GONNA say? John Former yes or plays alleged even even even the mall rats. He's duplicates infant Netflix show as cloned. Oh Yeah so just finding him again a few more well they must have that spare look at about. We can mulched and I haven't watched that shy yet so we could just be describing it for plum. I am almost certain that it also involves mole rats turning her of what's pretty sure it's going in the exact same direction. Just remember at the night. The Guy I'm thinking of from Mole. Rats was the guy from my name is l. That whole Jason. Yes and he did not age as well as Paul Right. He's still a good looking man. He said he'd be a great said Yeah he's not sleazy if we're going on that vibe Jay With giant silent Bob then Jay would make a very good said he would and we can just get pull rub to motion capture it like Golam but then that that'd be onto this other guy just as long as he's involved in some form does all the movement and then we recreates the movement. Yeah he's been live up by. Okay Great Satan is mole rats. What cracking idea. Thank you very much Georgia. Strengths sentiments Landau tests the category. Hit me up. What are y'all so basically the it's a buoyed. A lawyer who is hired by the council to defend themselves against an animal charity To a are threatening to sue them or closer the zoo and on his journey he falls in love with one of the penguins. is like this hotshot lawyer look. I'm think Nicholas Cage would be the lawyer. He's like Nicholas on key Columbine Nicholas as well. Can you help us Defend US against Brought to court by Peter who want to see us Encloses zooey over the city because they think included the animals which we are. We need to defend us. The people ethical treatment of animals. He's not someone compete no clear. Yes so it. Nicholas cage is being hired by the council by the council auto like as in the representatives at the. Maybe where he goes in there like. Yeah there's room but it's like because he sort of like you know sort of saying what he can What's likely that is going to have to defend? And he's sitting there on the bench and he looks over this penguins looking at them through the Penguin Kucher k over and said Oh and he goes over to the pavement on the. He's eaten his on these Eaton's regions as well. Obviously kind of communicates. The penguin is like thinks is looking at is some wage but he realizes they follows payments in that the actually look announce scratch. What is weird? Anyway he doesn't think anymore but he goes away but this penguin is keeps running through his mind. Keeps like you can't can't let go penguin. And he goes to the library and he pulls out this spell book this magic spell book boat from this from the library because he finds a ten chapter how to speak to penguins so he goes. He goes home his kitchen and he sort of makes up. The spell follows the spell by her speak to penguins goes to the zoo and he drinks us in front of the penguin causing drinks the potion at he's obviously done the spelled wrong because he turns into Pangolin zookeepers. Come out and go but the has a penguin enclosure get them inside so he's always inside the penguin included with this other penguin and then they really hit it off. They you like. They're you know they're flirting together. The swimming together feeding together and they I think maybe we'll have seen maybe we're the zookeeper comes in his trade about least kicking penguins and myself on the calls over. So let's say that the Pangolin. His called he calls for. Bat An slots right so so so so necklaces. That hang on stops in like that. Yeah my board and Lake Square. I think well I in my head like did like Ryan hice kick. Boxing Penguin is like Oh my God. This guy's amazing so that's when you go full steam into the penguins taxing. Oh Gosh but it's like really really shos really tastefully shots. Say on there like it's the there's a lot of love like attention between them so that's all released their top. I'M NOT SURE. I'm not sure the certification this but we might see a little bit of pain boob maybe more. I don't know but anyway so the next the next day they're on cloud nine niners like he's like. This is amazing. I find love but the spell wears off and now he's back into nearing Nicholas Cage. Nicholas Cage humping. A Penguin right all these school. Kids are like screaming. Oh my God when they were there on a school trip they were like it was false charges. Like you don't understand you don't understand so he's like instantly arrested. He's like loose job because I still wanted the prison like. I'm so you think you think that's it. That's the you know. Oh my God I thought you were going to stop them. It'd be like oh before anyway. They oh but then P. do end up closing no pay to do cruising the Nicholas cage is in prison. It's impressive zoos. Close all seem prison prison for his prison for indecently exposing himself. I mean you'd say he can defend himself as much as he likes but he's not coming in any way shape or form emotions. Peter Closes all. The animals are freed sheets New York City. So they're afraid yeah nightmare. The penguins like depress all all the items are like Mrs Green but the penguins depressed walks straight but it it. Here's a flute and played and she remembers. That Nicholas was really sort of towns flu claire. I laughed he was a nomination Flute Flute. But he's he's really good. I'm saying when would you the Penguin Betty ever heard Nicholas cage in the flute while he was in the tuna sandwich but so before the bits. I misled the bit before he. I'm a goes to the library to find the spell book. He visits the penguin every night and sort of plays the flute. That's community music. Why she's staring hawks. It's nights disgusting. It is it is. It's it's love is of so anyway. She's wandering the streets and she's really Presi. Here's this loopy employed. She she follows in the music and like. Nice Stan nightside like I'm this. The grits and the pay pavement joining nutrients. He's signing like this Baseman. Sal playing this flute and she's like. Oh my God and and try and try and communicate and he's reaching up and put his finger suit Britain's and she's just sort of rubber against and like trying to fingers and stuff like this on the form of contact. I think we've got to know penguin can get our enemies. And then she goes and gets the other she gets out from animals like elephants gorillas and then they rip off the Grill and Sat. Nicholas Cage. Free on then the reunited and then the rest the last section of just about Nicholas Cage fighting the system to allow him to marry the penguin so we had he takes the city council to Court House Him. The Penguin and well does succeed. I don't know how if you leave it on so the the jury goes so the judge goes. Okay let's jury do you think it's okay for Nicholas? Cage is full name as his character to be able to marry this penguin and then they gave up. And goes we think and then send What's the run time on? I think I just didn't know at two hours. Twelve next is maisy maisy. What is your idea for an inspiring underdog fail? Okay so mine is a comedy drama. Thought bleeding. So I'll just give him up. Quick premise open come in common infiltrates a prestigious boarding school and a seems. The identity of a religious studies seizure in order to gain access and still robbed the schools volts of historic religious artifacts. A wedding falls to the headmistress can get free with the highest and leave his conscience out the door nice so seriously the underdog in the store. He's the he's the outsider in this prestigious. Are we reaching him to do the highest yet? Yeah you are essentially in forgot to sing here and most the time and pianist the highest nice is passionate the heist. Yeah that's what you've described there. I think is almost beat for beat. A central fill. I think so I think what is a type some Trinian's and school of rock and all of the really bad Guy Ritchie known on the rodents. Well you could. At least you're pulling from the best exactly. Is Eric Idle in this film? I mean we can put him in the Shawl to Shaw. Signed a him The TARYN Edgerton. We say we gave agitate maisy. I've got a few more questions about the idea. So Ob are bancaire army character who is stealing a variety of religious artifacts. What is his name? Hurry hurry hurry honestly yes. He's as this company wants to be the big. The is world I was stealing. It's this guard Eric. Idle gotten the in order to prove himself in strives. They will miss job of of infiltrator. Posh Voting School is the religious studies teacher The religious studies teach is kind of lot with defense against the dark out there quotes in the never seemed to have an appropriate member of staff. Laura so they get Harry Lobban. I'm he has to be doing all of this teaching each believe in God as a combat but he falls rooks. Youth is the headmistress. I'm the she's very devout Race so the there's no sex scenes ever in the cell. I played by Gemma audited off of of students. I'm spout will walk. Someone like Vinnie Jones in that as well as one of the gang members. These is copy. Gun Voice copy folded for these as his Get enough post challenge to get money. Harry sneaks off to the edge of the grounds during the night where Misty Vinnie Jones there. Whatever he's like yeah between all flash for the idea. That VINNIE JONES INFILTRATES. The school as child case youthful exotic. Yeah Onis own his knees with the ship. This news like everyone at the school knows that he's doing that. He thinks he's fooling them but it just like a bit particularly Nice. Not Vinnie Lousy. Exactly his neighbors is he played vinnie Jones in this field. Actually himself kids Blah. Yeah Vinnie Jones spill jobs. Everyone is to scandal-struck. They're too scared to kind of directing. We'll say anything wrong. So they just let him be and all everyone refers to them as the actor and former football so that the head boss will go your boy the actor and former football video via yes. Yes definitely definitely so yeah. The the thoughts fall in love to hiring rates book but hurry is obviously conflicted on whether or not he can still got favorite with stating all these riches from school. Salt for the gun when a really. He's really starting to question what is right. What is wrong more-or-less IX choice knit insane? And all of this Of course he doesn't want to hit and betraying they seven Big Lady. What we think happens at the end does he does go through. The high store does Is the only thing that stolen his heart while yet thought. That is the yes. There is a beautiful speech night by talent Edgerton. He says okay to to steal all of the richest the turns out breaks you of it safe. Stolen she's a risk if yet yes and then at that point at the Jones at Suns up office at Shave Knees. May and he thinks it's a huge prevail Everyone saw still feels precious to go even that a Hamco snow all along. I'm he's not. He's not an Eric idle. Create this shakes out ever go gauge the volt Vinnie and the Out A The riches ex quite climatic end. I wanted to adjust to the credits in the could it possibly instead of just into the credits. Could it slowly? Career slowly fade out. Ever just an abortion. This gunfight done. This is that you don't really really slow fade but just seeing at. Dhaka and the Fire sounds two states very very slowly and then the credit pair. The credits can the credit start with food completely to black this pause and then you have been watching ask. Vinnie Jones in a Heidi High Crofton appears ending says vinnie Jones. Giving a thumbs up while people a big shot behind. You have been watching instead of them you know how like Iran Heidi high or Dr Beaching. There were always like just standing there. I'd like to say like Dad's Army where they're actually walking through the field. So there's there's a bit more movement so you you see eric idle and it's like you have been watching and there's still gunfire going off and he's walking along and then of course you see tarit agitated and then finish joins on the little shows like renew really hard to move through this. You have been watching Vinnie Jones as the former football George names and that's the end of second inevitable clip shirt. We'll be back with some brand new episodes very soon. But in the meantime gives a rating and review on Apple podcasts. Follow us on twitter facebook and Instagram at you watched pod and just chill work as fast as we can here.

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Friday Free  4 All Celebrates the 24th Anniversary ofJudgment Day  Eps. # 49

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Friday Free 4 All Celebrates the 24th Anniversary ofJudgment Day Eps. # 49

"Welcome to the phantasmagoria. M- show august twenty ninth. Nineteen ninety-seven is a day. That would decide our fate. It is the day that skynet became self aware decided that humanity was its own worst enemy. Luckily there is no fate except for what we build for ourselves. Come with us if you wanna live. Let's go and we are alive. We are alive for the time being we have two more days. Yes and then all hillary's apart. Apparently i came because they want to live well. Welcome oh my stars. Are you in skynet tertia. The turgeon editor turned turned on off all the lights. Because i thought i heard some some robots outside so i thought i'd better keep it quiet. Oh i have a dog. So my dog's going to be able to catch a synthetic that me to Is your dog named the wolf. Your god patterns are dead. Your foster parents dead house will for doing well. He's fine wool fees just fine anyway. Let's ways welcome to the friday free for all day or j. As some people call it. 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Until i have to go in and i have to create those designs on on the different products but yes we eventually will be will be able to get those on mugs and and stuff like that too right now. They're just t shirts but will work on getting the rest of that stuff done over the next week or two dun dun dun dun dun looking yeah no i know much more with thursday deters nader to is that a full mask man. It's it's it's it's not the thing you're doing the same thing i'm doing it's why it's my Human skull friend. I call him a little joe. This is jeff. Jeff joe Boy this is actually it broke But it's actually Made a plastic and it contained was a special edition of terminator salvation. So there was supposed to be a thing underneath here where you had the disk. But i got it for twenty bucks on amazon and makes for just a good display. Pretty good way like this is the size of my skull. This actually came in in a crate. And i was like that is awesome and the detail on. It is really really cool because it's even got the slot where they take out the the brain ship. If i if i had my key chain next to me you would be able to see the terminator like the chip. That miles dyson create put in the damn thing and then in the deleted scene they They bust that chip up. However before we all just get self referential there is a Like what okay. We should talk about the terminator and we should talk about it. As opposed to just having fun in this particular hot tub. So in nineteen ninety. Seven on august twenty ninth. Skynet becomes self aware. Let's not forget. It was august fourth of that same year that the Skynet legislation was passed. Vastly transmitting all defense. And strategic information and action to skynet. This was developed by. Oh my god if cyber dyne well cyber dyne systems absolutely and pioneered by miles. Bennett dyson in the original timeline. Yeah and so on. August twenty ninth dine at became self-aware. They tried to pull the plug. And skynet fought back and said no bitch no judgment day. Also known as j refers to the day that the artificial intelligence skynet become aware and starts a nuclear strike on the united states of america russia and other places killing three billion people sarah connor. I learn of about judgement day in nineteen eighty-four from kyle reese. A soldier sent from the future to protect her from an assassination mission by a terminator And she actually learns more about sky net from that. Same terminator here. I need to know how sky neck. It's built who's responsible. The main most directly responsible is miles. Bennett dyson director of special projects. At sipe it then systems corporation. Why him a few months. He created revolutionary type of microprocessor. In three years but then will become the largest supply of military computer systems. Also southbound bombers upgraded with zyppah then computers becoming forty unmanned afterwards deflowered a perfect operational record the sky net funding. Bill is passed. The system goes online on august. Fourth nineteen ninety seven human decision removed from strategic defense skied begins to learn. At a geometric rate it becomes self aware to forty am eastern time. August twenty ninth in the panic. That tried to pull the plug. Skynet fights back. Yes it launches. Its missiles against targets in russia russia. Because skynet knows that the russian counter-attack will eliminate its enemies over here. Thank you. You're welcome arnold schwarzenegger and linda hamilton. And eddie furlong told it way better than i was doing. That's amazing but that is incredible world building in terms of all right. Well this is what happens. And also sarah connor in up until she like. She finds out in terminator one and in terminator two. She's a crazy person and she has been trying to figure out how to live. In this nihilistic world of ultimate demise that his impending i saw prove it that was i you know we often bemoan the the info dump. But that would that's when it's used to its perfection in my opinion info dump there in the right way. That's exactly what you need a otherwise it would have been some kind of montage right explaining all of that and i thought he you know i thought that exposition was was really well-placed and really well done yeah. It's setting as well in the movie where they're out in the desert. You have this call music in the background. Linda hamilton is really really good at acting in this Movies you really makes that part come alive. Sure so i've never thought of that exposition as as boring even though i've seen the movie like several times it's just part of the flow. Yeah i'm sorry back. It is informative exposition and it is character driven exposition. It works with the scene and the way that it is shot is beyond reproach like it's amazing that is terminator two is one of the best movies wall time i. It's my favorite of the confession to confession. I haven't seen all of the terminator movies. I've seen three the first three. I didn't is there four or five. I don't know. I don't even know his check their salvation and jenny isis right. Yes and and drop fury not dogs theory. What's it called star. Wars the one with the one with christian. Bale good for you and that salvation salvation genesis and fake dark feet so i have seen. Yeah so so. I see actually four. Then right you can fade. I did how was it. I was okay. I didn't i didn't minded. I didn't think it was horrible. All right yeah. But you've and you've never seen genesis. I haven't seen genesis errands. So that's the only one. I guess i missed was that would be. It would be interesting to hear your comparison. I've seen genesis. But i've never seen dark fate. So it'd be shannon. We genesis is. That's the one with harris kalina. The actor from clash of the titans and a bunch. Oh no you're thinking. I yeah that's ovation. Yeah yeah okay. yeah. I haven't seen the genesis one genesis. The one with emilia clarke. Yeah no i. Haven't i like amelia clerk. Haven't seen well in her is sarah. Connor is actually quite lovely. I heard i heard the movie was does not get well. No no agreed okay. I enjoyed it like it was a it was a good bad movie. Yeah isn't fantastic. It has its Its moments but they did this whole thing where they aged and computerized arnold to recreate a different version of the scenes from the first movie where he shows up from the future and beats up These hooligans these punks and take your clothes and all always when you do seem like that. It's always will the way. The technology today are always going to end up in like this. Uncanny valley plays where where it's kinda fence service. You're kinda into seeing it but it isn't all there. Yeah and tertiary using genesis. Yeah and so one of the problems that i had with. I think the scene that you're discussing is that it was arnold schwarzenegger. Da going up to the gang of hooligans that we saw in the first nineteen eighty-four terminator right. Yup yup one of those hooligans was bill paxton yes and so when genesis was released i think it was hovering around the time of his death. I may be mistaken. But i knew when they were recreating original terminator scenes. And it wasn't going to be bill paxton. I was like well. Then it doesn't it doesn't work. The original terminator is so iconic that even that one brief interaction. It's like well. No i know this because of this and it crosses all of the lines of Genre movies it's like. Yeah no bill. Paxton was in this. and this. And this and james cameron. Movies and arnold schwarzenegger like everything arnold schwarzenegger and bill paxton meet again in true lies for fun yet. And so yeah no. It's just when they recreated it in genesis. I found it to be trite but i still enjoyed the cover song. Yeah i agree. It's fun revisiting those things and it's not like that makes or breaks the movie in any way What happened with with the terminator sequels is that they they did the same thing that most series do when they they make too many movies. They kind of get entangled in their own story again. Tangled in like how they travel back and forth. The one movie will kind of ruin the premise of another movie. And you never get to relive the excellence of of terminator two judgment. They that was a movie. That kind of redefined both special effects. What an action movie should be. So it's it's it's really you you can't. You can't recreate that. No not at all. And you're you know i. I would be remiss if i didn't discuss the revolution in the Special facts in terms of the cgi. Things that james cameron had built upon from the abyss like in terms of that is possibly the precursor to the awesomeness. That was drastic park. Like they really didn't know the full potential. Please correct me and chad if i'm wrong but like the abyss and terminator two were part of the pioneers. Were some of the pioneers in. Cgi absolutely absolutely end It's not that long since. I saw terminator two. I saw it two three years ago when it was released in three d. When when i still had my projector and my my screen and i watched it intrigued. And the three d. quite worked for this movie It was fun. Good experience And i think i think the special effects hold up Of course you can see that that they're special effects but it's not some movies kind of have affects where they take you out of the movie But that never happens to me at least in terminator two i. I believe what's happening and to this day. I think it's it's cool watching the t. One thousand go through the jail bars. Then have his gun stick On the on the bars there is only one thing about the t. One thousand makes me cringe. And that is when they fight in the mall in the galleria. And he does the double take to the silver mannequin. That always makes me like no no so i. I'm looking at a list right now of the terminator movies in chronological order. So cac stories. Yeah so that would be terminator terminator genesis the terminator terminator two judgment day. Terminator three Machines then terminator the sarah connor chronicles the jasko which i loved. I thought it was awesome. Yeah me too Then terminator wait. I don't know why has terminator genesis again and then terminator salvation in terminator dark fate. Yeah i i guess. I'll need to see the terminator genesis. Because i actually. I have seen all of the terminator stuff except for that one. So maybe we'll have to give that one a shot. Thirty eight metzker. Well no but it's it's one of those movies that it is like eight is a cover song. The richard is here with a glowing ten worst on johnson. What's up guys much. what's going on. I'm playing with my toys. Get well heavens. If you're going to show up yours gold I saw his baby. Whip it down. Never whip it out on thursday. I'm jealous because you guys actually have a better version. I've got the salvation one And it's a it's a mask but I always wanted the the version that Scotty end a tertiary Tertia mater to has turgeman data turgeon. Does well yeah. So what is your okay. So we were talking about the you know skynet taking over and so but there is no fate except for what you make for itself richard. Which which is your favorite terminator. I've publicly announced a while back. I'll watch terminator one once a month for the rest of my life. boom. I accept your answer. I love terminator two. It was a masterpiece. And i i remember seeing it with kelly dame One of my sweethearts back in high school. i I even sculpted a cyborg face with liquid. Latex glowing i and i was featured in the in the fricken high school yearbook for that I'm a huge terminator fan. And so would if you had a choice between well. You said that you would watch terminator one every month for the rest of your life i would. Would you watch terminator one over terminator two. If you had a choice between cutting one of the two out which one would you take. Would you get rid of terminator one or would you get rid of terminator. Two judgment day is is a bitch man. It's going to happen no matter what so. It doesn't matter to me. I will I love their for both different reasons. terminator one is horror and smog and terminator two is action Action fantasy sci fi. I mean and i love them. Both and liquid metal. I mean you can't beat medic poloway so okay so considering that the t. one thousand was mimetic poly alloy and travelled through time but nothing Artificial or manufactured can travel through time. He has to be skips. So if he's a mimetic poly alloy then that means even his flesh is metal. I didn't. I completely forgot that we would be getting into time. Travel conspiracies and everything My god this is yeah. This is the never ending conversation. So yes you're right. In that sense maybe his physical of appearance when he came in though was flesh well and then when he changed any full metal. We don't know how mimetic this pollyanna lloyd can be and it would be unwise knowing that sky net created the time travel device. They would probably like even if they had internal replicator 's that could give a membrane of flash around the mimetic poly alloy. Like i don't know. Do you think that if if if a t. one thousand was subjected to a blood test would it be able to artificially create blood. My answer is yes. I would actually disagree. I'd i think i think it's logically. Yes it should though at least after it appears in of In the movie The first time the medic. Polio in Terminator two judgment day When he first transforms. I think he would lose all of the actual properties of being human like it burned off of him during that explosion. That's what i'm thinking. Yeah no that makes sense that totally makes sense three billion human lives and it on august. Twenty nights nineteen ninety-seven the survivors of the nuclear fire. Called the war judgment day. They lived only to face new nightmare. The war against the machines. I mean come on man opening like that. That's amazing bad ass i yes. hey tony. Hey tony can you hear me. Yes we can hear you okay. Okay okay i'm just gonna put this out there T. one thousand is bullshit roy. Total also you made the point already. I mean what's that now is the thing right. We'll know that the twist in termini two was ruined in marketing right. Yes we're supposed to think. The arnold is the philip right. Now if if you would be ambiguous up until a point and the marketing betrayed that twist. Yeah exactly right unavoidable. I say it was the moment when he has the roses when he opened suboxone roses his the shotgun and he points to sarah. You think out gone and we put joan. We'll we'll we'll a janis between sarah He points sara. Lee gets junk gets in these fights right serious in an asylum at that point. Exactly right but and i agree with you is because the audience was intending to be like. Oh there's a cobb good guy. There's the terminator from the last film guy. And then it wasn't until he said to john. Connor get down it using new. Obviously the teeth he one thousand had some so biological shell. the was basically the the the lot of patrick now. What we should have seen is we should have seen him slough off and The the liquid metal but we never got to see that right. Oh come on. you're bleeding fire the explosion but no that's later in the film. You're blaming a pioneer bags for not doing mainly the sheath that was allowed him come back in time to be sloughed off he cannot move with the sheath on roy because it would just become suit. Cry you're okay. You're right in the hallway in the back hallway when arnold when terminator t- eight hundred shutting him. He's repairing himself before he's already sloughed off by that point right. He's already snuffed of that point he doesn't half anymore. I'm defending you. He literally when he's naked. Yeah naked fat. That is the skin ciano. That's the skin. Because why would he needs to be naked if if if it was a bar logical if if the old The metal skin whatever right so he thought he had a donald skin. Sue on originally the like roper patrick right and and that's what he was programmed to to to look not just for consistency site right so he now offscreen. He sloughs off now if he if he sloughed off onscreen you know he was the villain you you would not think he was human ryan. You're supposed to think he's a human up until that point in colorado now if he is wits which makes no sense. Because if you were sending somebody back in time and you were going to make this human shell it would be reese so she can get next to these people and kill the target and if i may into your like the return of the t. One is eight hundred. Not one thousand is found by the cop when he i like the pulls up gets out says possible electrical disturbance looks at the fence which is a perfect circle. And so with the t. One thousand had already returned from time at that point and was away from their initial return. So it does still leave a little bit of mystery as to whether or not human but kyle reese had to be returned above ground because you know what time travel is odd. You cannot stand in the midst of it. One of my biggest concerns of all time has been. Why didn't he take the image of the police officer that he's occupying the car. You know Y did he stick with tony. I guess kind of you know maybe the character t. one thousand was programmed. The thing is though every person he meets. He changes over to them but he didn't for that guy. What was his from. What i remember. Robot patrick is supposed to be supposed to like the adult junk on okay. That's why i've never heard from from that now. Going back to this is going white back because obviously is the years ago right so memory. I can barely remember what happened. This fucking mooning. They both have pointy ears a catlike features exactly and i. I'm pretty sure. I remember them saying that. He was cost because He bull a resemble over a resemblance to edward furlong vice. I saw comment now but obviously that was but they when i decided to go with just win the mocking when they decided so Just have on the guts in the beginning. We're not really gonna make anything of it I think gave them gonna give my my two cents on that whole thing. I think it's just very basic hollywood economics. Because they couldn't afford to have him be liquid solid metal man entire movie it would be too expensive. would know. it wouldn't be really cool if they had him do kind of a thing a thing thing where he was several different characters throughout the movie which would be much more efficient for terminated to change it around. So you would never know who was Exactly yeah if you think of it as like a virus in like in john carpenter's thing So what they wanted was someone who had presence seems scary. Could do some physical things and a cast robert patrick. It doesn't fit the story well but they needed a face for the character jimi robert patrick was not inexpensive actor at that time and he wasn't rising on and they did a swap out the bodies here and they're like in the psychiatric ward where the use the twins but we'll get to that Gregor well yeah. Remember being around tony. We've gotta talk michael in the chat. Todd michael said just to tickle. Scotty i will make sure i dislike all programming and for that we thank you. Thank you todd michael increasing. Oh i love you get. That sounded more like through. Beco- what i'm doing man. That's a new new way. We can say her name. Hello hello are i everyone. These shirts look great anyway yet. But i think that that is a good explanation. Why to how how. He could come back in time but they couldn't use but they couldn't actually do that because they wanted to give you the impression he was a human and then they gave up on that but then they went. Oh shit we didn't actually shoot that scene with him. Slough the skin off sites like fuck it. We don't ca like. I think it's a thing that you if you get hung up on the terminator coming back from the future in a time machine. Then they are completely autonomous. Cyborg rope magnetic polio. When does your suspension of disbelief fall away. Your little detail that. I mentioned that as a film mike. You have to respect your own law roy. Moore i mean you have respect for your own law. Otherwise otherwise you know. Civilization goes to helena handbasket. Doesn't it yes clearly. Now i have a question for everyone when it comes to terminator salvation. Do you find that. Terminator salvation is lacking as a terminator movie because it lacks the time travel. No no no actually actually not I know a lot of people Could a lotta hates on that movie. But i'm actually liked it I think it's a. It's a cool movie and i think it fits in in the whole or and i thought it was fun to do for one. See a bit more of what happens in the time line where everything is pretty much. Fuck the actor. I was trying to remember. I think sam worthington right yeah. That's okay yeah he osa I love the fact that we see. We get to see the prototype muslim. Wanna one rolling kitting as during his. Cgi on impression and you know what there is a little bit of credit to be given to that cgi cameo. I know that arnold the time was governing california. And so yeah. He wasn't going to be in the movie and so when they see. Gee i'd him. It was absolutely cartoon cartoony i. I didn't mind that that. I actually the i guess that would be the first four. Movies right terminator. I loved terminator. Two i think is the my favorite one of all. It's the one. I've seen the most rise of the machines salvation then genesis and then Dark six okay all right. Yeah so the sarah goals. But i like ovation was okay yeah sircana. Chronicles was a fun tv series. I loved it. I couldn't i. Couldn't i couldn't believe it when they act but i was. I was like dude. What are you doing well and also sarah connor. Chronicles is better than genesis year. But it's it. Shares it shares plotline in terms of time travel of them going to the future and overstepping things in the pilot episode of this era connor chronicles. And so yeah. I would i all that great. He isn't good summer. Glaus awesome all the time. All of a sudden i mean the whole. The whole show was good. Would it only ran to season right. Yes yeah Out around the time of the last season right of course to salvation skelton a nine and i moved to la in two thousand seven. And my buddy. James has told me. Hey you got was steer car chronicles turkana chronicles and all of that seemed to be really close so did salvation end up killing the tv show. That's my question maybe place into it really many just because the the the time on it doesn't matter because it's it's it's not again. Tom troubles really video a plot point. So it's not. There's nothing that can come back and mess up and the know and sarah connor chronicles takes place in a completely separate universe. Let alone timeline. So i other things. I don't know i just i that's a that's a show that got axed way too early yet in credits should be mentioned. Todd mike right. I forgot shirley. Manson was i. Don michael says how is The t. o. s. constitution class. Image public domain. Actually asking for myself this time. Not a friend touch actually wants to know about that. Particular image actually was not public domain. It was royalty free cam cam says. Hi stephen scotty good to see you at todd. Michael hari Cam cam says the shirts look great. Well thank you thanks. That's all steve. Shirts t. by the way remember when the consumer electronics industry thought three d. Tv's we're going to be a thing. Three tv off that's true. Actually there are a lot of people who still love them. And i would be if it weren't the case that they don't make three d television anymore. So i would i when i bought my new. Tv the seventy five and samsung. I i would. I wanted a new. Tv that was had good for caig. Good hdr and they just don't make three d. tvs anymore so correct in a. It'll be sad. It'll be a sad day when mine actually goes out of though this one that i got fix an early or mid or later one two thousand seven or something Anyway it up converts so it can. it can play regular movies especially animation. Look really good when you up convert to three my My blu ray player happens to be three d. Better and have a tv or or three blue as right. I mean i just didn't catch three. D i mean three. Were really well. When vietnam three the and feel these kind of working at the moment but not quite one psych at the algorithms and the once again algorithm so it out it should what lovingly and ours will be It doesn't work. You don't have the glass. Never my mica says. Don't try to bring logic into the time travel this. I mean if you wanna if you do that you'll need to come up with something to explain the zena morph egg on the nostra. Oh yeah system. Were there on the on the salonika on the amazon echo yet. why vitamins. Why at the how. Fake in in the show in the state boat. Gentlemen gentlemen gentlemen you are talking about waylon you tawny. We're supposed to be focusing on anyone. Michael but yet so don't blame us. We're just the participants lay anyone. I was just curious where we again. The taunt chuckled stuff. I mean they set up in the first film. They set it up wet. You could not be could not have You had to have a body shell right in resonates in the dog wants coming state. It's really cool stuff. Yeah there were ignored where they bay shoved a gun any inside guy and it was like. Oh you you'll never be able to take these gun back in time and it's like as long as it's encased in flesh. I can take it wherever i want and boom and so guy who has just been punched through the valley with a terminator holding a blaster and putting it into it so now you have future. Guns in nineteen eighty. Seven was amazing of the dog to that comex because it was kind of was again it was slightly different timelines And it wasn't reliant. On loan on the corner on the corner clan ray was going at different way an ally that also wasn't it wasn't rely on on the the arnold schwarzenegger version of terminate that with different. There were different. Thinking was link one nine and it was one of nine one one twenty in some aspects. Obviously as we all know the t eight hundred is the endo skeleton an model one. Oh one is the logical chasing right as we all know. Yeah yeah yeah. So here's a. Here's here's an says in the terminator tien-lin richard in Terminator three rise machines. Dvd is stated. The judgment day happens in two thousand and three ally twenty fifth. Two thousand three is pegged as judgement day in the novel. Terminator salvation cold. Now if i may the reason that occurs is because of the events of terminator two and so it. Terminator three has the dubious position of saying that judgment day is inevitable It doesn't matter it doesn't matter what you do. It is going to happen so it kind of erases the no fate but what we make for ourselves idea of the terminator franchise and that's why everything after terminator two in my eyes is a little paler. I like terminator two by the time we get to number three. It's like oh no. I know all your sacrifice and all of the things that you did. But that's that that didn't make a difference. It just sort of postponed judgment day so there are in terms of the anniversary of judgment day. Yeah there are. There are several also like that the first one. The second one are so different movies. The first one is more like a thriller mixed with a horror movie. Yeah and then you have the second one who is this. This pure sci fi action movie and if you look at the stats that came after judgment you see that all of them are going in the same direction of just being action sifi time travel and punchy face the the rich rich original terminate. It was a thing of nightmares ryan. I mean i really off the sing to exhaust on oversee vhs. Roy and i saw i i. I can't -member before that. Having nightmares about anything. But i remember Having bad dreams about being followed by a someone would read. Is you have been scared of australian men coming into your bedroom. Always to be honest. You know it's it's a sliding sky right. It depends if they're from the terrel fine. You know but you know buddy you know you get too far in the countryside with but hey cat hate him. So here's another note at the the date. July twenty fifth twenty two thousand four is also mentioned as judgement day in the novel. Terminator salvation from the ashes. The movie Souvenir magazine marks that judgment day occurs in the year. Two thousand four terminator salvation. Two thousand and four or two thousand twenty four two thousand four. Oh okay so july twenty fifth so now we have now. We have three dates according to the judgment day for the terminator wicky. Well i'm a purist steve. I'm sorry. august twenty ninth. Nineteen ninety-seven is the first judgment day. That i ever heard of any sager if there are divergence in the time line i don't know call us the mandela fact care because august for nothing because yet because the events to to stop that from happening but it didn't stop it forever it just postponed. It is spoon but isn't that sort of a cheat. No fate but what you make for yourself except for the facts is inevitable is bullshit if if cameras have been involved with that film. I don't think that would've it would've gone that way. I think it would have been them better spoil. Would it abandoned. We don't know at least at least. The world doesn't bend on valentine's day like in ghostbusters. To oversee cameron didn't want term net. Three saying obviously hamilton didn't want it to be a thing. Either she was either written out of it or she didn't they must have approached. they must have. That's the that's the whole cans ever date your lead actress. Mary her career alley. But the kim. Kim says at at tim talk. Hi tim good to see you. These guys do a great stream. They'll have you on the they have to. Have you know i sent. I thought i sent the link to him. I must tim's talk says a hoy. Or hello to cam kim. Yup they are awesome. Rumor has it. they are replicates. I'm a hundred man lady wide receiver man lady. I am a man lady. It makes no sense in stone guy. No okay and so i guess that brings us to now. Tony you've seen genesis. Yes yet many times sadly really difficult saturday. I'll never naci she off of them. I've seen twice no up side the difficult to see them with The gabriel in a yes hilarious. I have the The the major board game that came for that movie of let me find it real quick it it is way more. Awesome the actual. But don't you think that the change of john connor from being injected or assimilated sky net and then being sent back in time in some like the whole thing is is is bad. It's bad walk. You know what genesis. I like the first half of it. And then the rest of the bitten in the The supermarket place closed shop. Wave one thousand come in and and then on the only only destroys the other. ta i love that. I love the unauthorized up to the bit. Where on the skydiving thing in the other elegant up by portion auction everything else. There's it is it is like going. It's like going to a pub and hearing someone like a pub band. Do a cover song of a movie and then once they are of a song like they're doing really great. They're playing come on. Eileen like. nobody's business and then all of a sudden they start playing their own stuff halfway through the set and all a par kick murphy's but now as a crazy idea if took if you took the best parts of genesis and the and the and the best parts of fighting wished him together could use a good movie. Yes and here's where my brain went i. Amelia clark is sarah connor and linda. Hamilton is sarah connor. Having them meet would be amazing and interesting. Full circle considering the father of john. Connor is from the future meets sarah connor of the past but for sarah connor of the past to meet future sarah connor hyping had some narrative. Potentialities you broke him. Yeah i think so. I think that's the thing. Yeah how do you not think that's a good idea. I was thinking you know. no now. i'm sinking take support. Where the paul Meets up with on me. And he's you know what was the kuttan Makes curtains right. I haven't seen dark fate. I have not seen dark fate. Yeah jim kinda pulse upholstery or curtain on upholstery thing on the. I can't remember. Always you know one time but this i you know. It's not a great movie and i don. I didn't think it was horrible. Though and thing is again. I love termini to the only thing i hate about two minutes to is white. Giancana was contrite. He's a an annoying little shit and win a when he gets blown away at the beginning of dog fight. I was like all. I'm all in on this one. All no i liked. I liked at ed. Edward furlong as john connor. I thought was one of the best child acting performances of all time. Really he was he was he was he was a light thirteen. Fifty all right so anyway. Despite his age. I found him as a young person to have given one of the best and most engaging young people performances i've ever i've ever seen lookie handle they say Since sara and the terminator both share the same information which would in any case if both it and kyle were sent back at the same time to different destinations. The date this date which meaning august twenty ninth nineteen ninety-seven date has not changed as a result of cyber dyne managing to reconstruct and create the terminator's from the remaining parts of the t eight hundred sent to nineteen eighty-four from the future at this stage Quality may have improved but the timing has not yet changed so that those all those follow on dates though in further movies and novels. And and what have you. They start messing with the top with the date. Tom accents well Yeah well yes. As to whether i think you could put The two movies together. I could see ways where all of any of the movies could be done. better in particular the last two of they were pretty horrendous. Though they had some really good parts and i i agree Having the to linda hamilton the to ser connors of iraq would be something special. I don't know what martin plywood about that but They're like a How it should have ended animated version of the terminator and back to the future. It amazing like would also a tony. You're you're one to game. Have you played any of the terminator games. I have in fact I i got the one of the latest term guys in a stabbing style like A bathroom four months ago and I it's pretty fun first. Person gamma stealth guy And that's a multi player. You can play One person place the terminate the other person buys a a meat. Sacked revisit vita. Yeah that was in that. Yeah exactly and Yes putting his regard for humanity is writing. It's noted you have been noted duly. Yeah exactly if someone asks me to go towards the big industrial complex. I'll be like tony's working for the romans also the Eight hundred is featured in mortal kombat. Ten eleven in the air you can have you can have arnold fight robocop as well. I think didn't they. Ed rambo's wealth rambo's also in there. Yeah in that the game to like there is an there is a Robocop versus terminator game s.'s. Closest we're gonna get except for. I'd like to plug another of video channel of bat in the sun. They do a lot of parodies and they have a lot of great. They have a lot of crossovers like robocop versus terminator batman versus darth vader. So it's incredible stuff their quality He was doing. What's his name was doing some commercials a for a while and he raised the money. They got bank now danica yet. Yeah i'll have a love. Hate relationship the All i think it's a weird thing so i was doug jones maccabi the interesting joker and the obviously the guy who does those things he did that the law swim with mark madsen and East joe cat is in. He looks great. But he's he's the greatest actor in the world. He's very pantomime. Me and i was just thinking dude. You've got you've got doug jones in this film and he's playing the la i mean. Can you imagine him with the the. Was it the gentleman on. Yes buffy but as the ciocca hoagie crowd. Yeah exactly well i. I don't think that doug jones would be inappropriate. Joker he's like and you could do it with prosthetics but there is something to soft about his performances seat. Now thing is to give craig judge death. I mean that is my why. I'm really hoping now. Doug jones is not a villain. I don't know if he knows how to do a villain. Have you seen him be a villain and correct me. Please direct evidence. Labyrinth evan's leprince up buffy more physical. It's not menacing very physical. I mean the expressions and everything. I was just having a conversation with somebody. The last night of i did that screening for of of the sheep water that it was supposed to give the doug jones and i pulled out my back and wasn't able to give up to him give it to him. Well now. we're making arrangements. So i can actually physically give it to him again. That's cool nice. Congratulations here's another in an early script. Draft of terminator two judgment day. John connor who is the narrator instead of sarah mentioned judge madeup having occurred in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine t to rising storm john connor remarks the orgin original judgment day happening fifteen years ago since that story takes place in two thousand one that makes ginger judgment day happen. Approximately nineteen eighty six instead of nineteen ninety-seven as mentioned in the film. Terminator two judgment day. The film the terminator in nineteen eighty-four. Kyle reese says that the nuclear war would occur a few years from now. It's unknown if this is a continuity error or a change caused by time traveling missions. Steve can i need you a camera two for just one second sawyer. We'll be back in a second. Have you heard the rooms to richard. I gotta talk to steve. I gotta talk look inside. So steve are you bringing up all of these alternate judgement days. Because because you didn't know what the hell. I was talking about when i said it was the are you kind of busting my chops. You know all right. No i mean yes i mean judgement days you what. I don't know if you were trying to make this point but you made your point. There are a lot of judgement days. No it's the notes put together for the show. And i appreciate them completely but you keep poking holes in august twenty ninth. No no. i'm not because it is. It's for me the original date. Anything that comes after. That is Is just poetic. License will appreciate you living up on openness anticipating. I know you can't celebrate judgment day on judgment day there's other stuff going on like judgment day and get getting completely wiped off the map yet but as we all know a school note judgment is being canceled. Now you know you can't you can't put out that much date decorations in the front of my house anymore. I'm the all the skulls out you know. That's right bleach. And it's very offensive yet So unfortunately We another now your room. Roomba is gonna eat your faith. It is by the way. Did anybody catch the tesla. New tesla robot. No i saw that thing. The tesla i'd i only want to know two things and one is will it kill me and to may i may i be intimate with. It says that it's not supposed to kill you. It's most likely not going. That's what the elon. Musk said his his. Pr thing was literally like. We don't anticipate it killing you. So when they see it most likely won't kill you most likely now. 'cause you my my number three is when is it going to go to the olympics because it seems very good at jumping in lighting around. Well let's see. They say you can outrun it. So if it gets mad at you. I'm pretty sure i can. The big question is does this. Robot have more empathy than elon. Musk probably not. I love the fact that you said you. can you can send it to the store to get you twinkies. I wanna know if the if the robot can walk my dog yes again. Yes that's what it's made for. Actually yes it could so it can also stump into hamburger me now. I mean also recycling central's yes master. I killed your dog. They amid isaac. I did it veni. Vidi officiant should be proud. You'd felt no pain it'll dispatch. I'll be back in the mornings burgers jarvis if if it will absolutely dispatched my enemies. I will buy one today but it. It missed some dispense. He said he wanted to dispatch enemies. And then it kills your loved one is out dispatch dispatch. Some -til front dole lock fedex. Oh all of them. Once steve like. I don't even. I don't well cash richard. I don't even tony. It's going to be difficult all flights well in for tertia as well. Richard catherine steve. I can send this robot your way i'd be like. Hey knock on the door. Say hello turnaround comeback. Make autonomous it. I can send it on mission and it's going to be like one of those things where it's like. Yeah no. they're robots walk on land shirt. That's all you have to just say. Land chocolate runaway. I just wanted. I just wanna send it to work every day if it can go do. It's eight hours a day. Come back. I'll take the paycheck because i bought the robot. It's mine. I own it if that's what you want to watch the The movie surrogates. With bruce willis willis really liked that movie of. It's not perfect. But i do. I do enjoy. But one of those movies that bruce willis seem to care about this one of the last one absolutely and according to some of the critics of this show. Could you sit in for me and you know one hundred times better. who to. Oh bruce willis steve. It's not microwave man It's not it's not well steve. You're better than bruce. Willis i tell you what doing what you do. Man like not in one thousand nine lutton. You're not die. Hard bruce willis. But you're better than was talking about bruce willis. He's a private investigator. That's what he's yeah. He's moonlighting bruce willis moonlight. Yeah you know. Been michael post today. posted a very beautiful picture of edward furlong grown up. Oh yeah oh no. I don't wait turn this. This is seeing late stage. Kathleen turner thing and late stage cancer. Is it not seeing bid. Macaulay coke pretty much pretty much. I'm okay with. Macaulay is the bearded. The kid from the six cents. Oh dude but haley joel. Osmond is no. He's in a tv show. And i can't remember which which wanted it was I was so good in it. Too crazy thing off in the boys. Yeah he was he was in. Yes when i. When i saw when i saw the first season of. It's a waste stunning philadelphia. Ballet eighty full groped. Michelini was not changed his name. Oh well it's interesting that was remedy that makes sense. But it's it's not the case. Hey did you know that there was a terminator two to yes. Tell us about it. Richard i got to see it in a universal studios hollywood and there is a video which we quit Eventually let folksy the the ride got shut down. I forget what it's called. It was terminator judgment day terminating judgment day three d. race or war across time. Yes yes yes and war. I was in the audience. I got to watch it of. I mean there is some holy macaroni. They went off on they. They put the three d. In the three d channel called the giant. I mean the main big bed was the giant tentacled monster but we had lied a t one thousand type tentacle monster up. It was an upgrade. Like thirty thousand or something but you had actors portraying live actors portraying sarah and john as they're trying to get away. You have a arnie actor coming out on his motorcycle shooting and everything and then you have a regular t. hundreds of thousands and then this mecca. T. one thousand that the three was so good. It had the tentacles coming all over Yeah they were coming on and it was directed by james cameron. Yes he's tannin cannon. Actually yes i think there are some. There are some special edition of physical releases that actually have that shot imagery. But you've actually seen it in person where it was an entire state production where people are neal was made so that motorcycles came onstage in people like jumped out role than there were machine guns and it was an amazing interactive multimedia extravaganza with the the seats of rumbling rolling. I don't recall any shocks per se. I just know that we were like there was when the buildings collapsing and all the monsters ten goals. Yeah smoke and everything. It was fantastic I actually i do have a dvd with elvira talking about that share that i've are with anya the show was trying to remember. Was that new x-files season that came out in two thousand eighteen jaws. The very first time. I saw him with. The beard was in his episode of that it was. It was a really good episode. Well i love x. Files i've got everything on. The books of offense is happy with the the reboots and the got an echo new. It's got a really bad microphone. Sound tooling like is it me. I think We get we hear some wind from richards mike but this is the window. I'm literally hearing my echo. Not hearing you're not getting erica. I'm not hearing your any echo. It's the first time. I have heard echoed during this broadcast. I know the women's messing up because of the storm. So i probably will have to. It's not that bad before you go he. Do you see a future for the terminator lake. The you see another terminator movie happening. And especially considering the aging nature of arnold schwarzenegger the perceived failure. I don't know how much failure was hoisted upon on dark faith but like do you. Do you think the terminator has future richard. Let's blow up the planet and start a new thing. I don't wanna sky. I met this bitch. I'm saying if they destroyed the planet but a few survivors got off the planet. They would still have memory or of data of some of the original of prototypes of whatever. Then they would actually be starting new when they realized that the technology that's helping them build a new planet is actually building it to go against them so i just see like you know if they wanted to do something like outrageous like that. Otherwise t. three was actually a lot of fun. They screwed up by in a lotta areas. But t three was it. A lot of credit to christina. Logan was terminate trix. Tx jack yup and heritage. I was watching transformers. The first one the other night and i kept expecting to see her. I got the movies confused four yet. It seems like the problem of this franchises. A whole that after the terminator two which reinvented such a good way at. It's so much extra layers to that story. Thought they took the wrong message. Shrines like oh they just smell. What's love this particular story. The fact that we did something different and they've just been copying judge did thing over and over the terminated. Three too much dad. Humor horrible non chemistry between the two leagues. Even interesting. but one thing. I do think all the secrets got right as they add a new image for the vat. Terminator ben Need dr fate wasn't as bad as i thought it was going to be. Genesis made my brain hurt trying to figure out how they're trying to tie this continuity. This is the kind of terminator looked at it. Cool to even though the whole thing with being john connor watching. But yeah as i understand it. They wanted genesis to spin out a new trilogy as well and they wanted to senator and the idea of dark fit. Now it's a brand new company. They keep doing even salvation. I thought that opportunity for a really fun like terminator war movie doesn't have to have the same old story of having to protect somebody but this shoehorn that and there's even though they had a really great idea of death row inmate being reborn as a terminator as they keep recycling that same thing. It's like if if that's the only plot they can think of for this franchise. I don't see having a future. Well that's a very interesting question cat. How would you move. The trans are the trans. The terminator franchise forward. How would you do it. Would you do it like salvation or would you do it. Now and humanity accepts. The nuclear holocaust is being inevitable. or like. How would you move it forward. No more time travel go back in time. Kill people stuff. They've done that too many times. True coke back do go back to like the salvation timeline and have like if you don't have or maybe anything interesting to say. Maybe you just let it go. Because it's like this franchise doesn't seem to be as let it go but don't have many jumping off points to have lost all the money. Because they're not doing the scrapped. Their sequel plans for genesis they scrapped. The sequel plans dark vate which. I don't think we're going to happen anyway because linda. Hamilton didn't seem to have all that great of a time doing that movie. she's like. I was a lot harder than i thought it was going to be. And i'm just doing this. And that's it and it's like a okay because that's what they're trying to lean on. We'll bring linda hamilton. Now get people come back. We'll bring schwarzenegger. Atl get people coming back. Well if they don't think they can have any nuclear they don't think they have any new characters new type of plots they can go in there. I don't see how they can move franchise ford in any way at that point you know but but in our i would go back to the war between the machines and the humans in the future and have like a neat story out of that. That doesn't have any of them. We must protect every you know certain person type of stuff will in return only mentioned it in terms of being a fan of the comics. And are you like. Did you ever see this eric. Connor chronicles saw that. That was okay now. Pretty inventive idea. I thought the era chronicles this eric. Connor chronicles were better than genesis. Kill yet. I think genesis is easily genesis do worse than terminator three even though terminator three headline or cringing humor in it. Because at least it's terminator three. I could follow the plot a follow the pot cool. I like seeing all the machines starting to take over in the climax likes the twist at the end that he wasn't trying to help prevent it he was trying to help. Save them To make that those were going to live because it was like inevitable but genesis was just e i again i couldn't follow logic. I couldn't follow how they were trying to tie into. The continuity felt too much like they're just shamelessly trying to redo as like. Oh a stein going again. A helicopter chasers pool. And i like how they killed that terminator and the whatever facility that was open about kind of neat us getting out of that movie. It's time for our goal to say. I won't be back right now. I'd love to see them. Go into the future and see the you know the word like that would be cool and if you have to have time travel then go back and pluck somebody out of the past and bring him towards the future to to help win that battle. Do that's a good idea. I would also a wreck on the michael ironside characters. Death of terminator salvation is awesome charger. General that that would be awesome back. Yeah it'd be. It'd be cool that you know i don't know and it doesn't have to be Connor it doesn't have to be the connor clan. Just baby somebody. Some kind of you know coder some some kind of of macguffin or something that you have to go back this this guy. You know crude. You know hacker back in the day is the only guy that can come in and fix win this war for us. I think that would be way better. If you're gonna if you've got to do time travel go go forward. Bring somebody forward instead of coming back to kill a bunch of people. Which we've done in almost every incarnation of plus if you're going to send that one why not just and becca ton of terminated train also one up send one one terminate at back to like the mediev- period. You know what's right. Why sim to time to wipe out the whole line. Exactly you can go buy. They've got create big. I'd be able to create more computer stuff with. I mean it has that ability in. it's bright roy. Cream on ash made a robot hand in middle ages. I'm sure they can. They can together terminator complete in pursuit. Right and so on his laminating eliminating family tree that far back of all of the time line november. Because that's what they don't want to. That's part of. That's part of the reason why it was so easy to go back and eliminate sarah connor part of the reason. Why she's a waitress at a big boy is that she is inconsequential. Hurry exactly the bashing anything exactly exactly Giancana never mattered. Because it's the only thing matters is gone. It's no john. Connor is important. Because sarah connor is important for having given birth and also being that. I hate to bring up a tv. A argument that nexus point where it's like okay. We can just eliminate her. Let's just call her and everything will be fine. Because you're absolutely right down. There is a computer being like. What are the variables on the past. And what can we change that ensures our survival and their demise. Well the biggest. The biggest thing is john connor and if we get rid of one waitress who has a roommate. Let's just yet go back. Go back go back to prehistoric times. Even you have no idea how much that'll mess up the time line. I hated butterfly effect. Totally butterfly effect. Yeah convince gone. it doesn't give a fuck about the time line. Scoring guy wants to ensure that they are creating created. Yes so they can so you if you change too much and will we can't go back. We can't go back because Gio d- Certain types of metals and everything. They occur over time. You couldn't go back to either Dinosaur age they couldn't because those properties haven't been created yet yep in the rock metal thing i terminate has all the knowledge of of of humanity in. It's bright. it could go back a million years and it could it. Could it could create the industrial revolution. A million years ago right it could build one term. In a million years ago could create Could create skynet in a thousand years could create enough iron or of any metallic of because if metallurgy and even meta material that that's created you know in the future into the future as long as long as that that that unit carried the knowledge of humanity. I'll back it. could it could fashion it. It wouldn't take them long to do gonna say i think we're over thinking it a bit because the whole the whole reason the machine the skynet wanted to go back and kill sarah connor's because john connor specifically is the one that unites humanity into something that's even able to fight scenes humanities stories. Humanity is the problem for sky at this particular individual was the one who managed to bring everybody together and start causing problems. So yeah they could do. You said go all the way back and do metallurgy and do that. It'd be much simpler to just go back and kill anti. But like i said just go back and bring a bunch of terminators with you so that a much easier job all all. Just all just like i mean they. They know the ten. The city that the the the sarah connor lived in one just trump. You communicate well hang on. Hang on second. I'm sorry to break up the conversation. But i just have to say that. I'm i'm going to have to log off. Because they have a phone call. I need to take. Okay buddy. i'm I'm gonna just Saying goodbye guys later. Thanks for hanging out. We'll hopefully we'll see you next. We'll see you next thursday on your show. Yeah yeah look i hope. Also i'll be there. Yeah me talk. Wouldn't be much. Yeah all right take it easy. Hers your major to anyway And it is when you're dealing with the timelines. It is a difficult question. Because you absolutely you could go back and eliminate one thing that will eliminate everything without question so you can go back to the seventies as they do in genesis you can go back to the eighteen hundreds as they do in the comex and the thing is is the cascading effect of time. Travel is going to mess up your possibility of being created. And that's why. I think skynet is as cat said so specific about eliminating john. Connor right is raised. You did raise a good point there. Scott that even if they killed john connor and gets rid of him but maybe that paves the way for somebody else to take his role. Because that would be an interesting story to delic- what is it about. John specifically that makes him so effective that machines need to even send terminator's back in time because we get that from the christian bale character terminators. It's like okay. So he's the random military guy number three is leading this particular charge. But i didn't pick up on him as being this new. You know he has on like the desert fox or to speak. He's not like he's not like robin robert community. You know what will he again. If that's the point they try and make so rather ham fisted lii in dogfight the fact that if you cut off one head to more grow Because that's that's how that's how freedom Look it's hydro but the problem with that. Is that everything after no fate. But what you make for yourself like. I love that message from terminator two. That is like what ms well that wasn't yep and the is i the terminator one eight. Yes agreed this. It's not indiana jones and the rice lost its writers of the lost dog site. You can shove that new. Hope your butthole. That's right. it's not a new hope. It's one of my favorite. Is what fifa christmas songs. Actually a great christmas song got wanna read some of these chats. I do todd. Michael says the problem with this franchises. There are only two options they either prevent skynet future. Or they don't it's that simple trying to revisit. This is ridiculous and yeah. And that's why i think in the same way that i disregard kingdom of the crystal skull. I disregard everything after Terminator two. I think if i were if i were to rate the terminator movies i would say One is is the best or no two is the best one is my favorite and salvation is the most interesting agreed across. Oh shit agreed. Let me I'll just wanna both hands. I agree you know what i think. They really interesting topic for discussion. I think if one of us came up with a a reboot pitch for one of their for franchises lost its way and activity would be a hell of a lot better than the genesis old dog. Yeah yeah but again. All of these movies have been created with the intention of being trilogies and none of them have succeeded. Yeah i. I don't put the cart before the horse. Yeah agreed steve. Make good movie smartest. I gotta take off guys. Whether it's getting a little bit choppy over here. They say. Thank you for being here. And i appreciate everything you do our love you all later to muster up know where tony go is there. I no doc says oh. Shut up todd michael. You don't actually give shit about terminator. Is a franchise cam kim. Hey cam cam Cam cam says yes. That would be a great way to do it. Go back to the actual war for supremacy. Well that's the entire thing. That skynet is working towards each kind of weird like sky. Net and the matrix linking machines from the matrix very similar but the matrix seemed to have their power generation. Worked out a bit more todd. Michael says true at nala dot true. Todd michael also continues on say. I think the needs I think needs to make a shirt that reads sky sky. Nuts doesn't give a fuck about the time lime. They're not it would be a good shirt. Does not give a shit about the timeline. I think that's it for today. That's it well for the for the chats for the chad. I so i don't know. Did you guys want to run down your favorites terminator moment of all time comments. I'd have. I'd have really have to think about the t. One thousand in the sequel is so awesome effects of that early. Cool well very. Well cast my favorite robert patrick character. So so my favorite i. I'll agree with with cat and say my. My favorite moment is when he goes through the bars. Does the jail bars cool effect especially back then to be able to pull out effect off and make look you know decent and make it look like it was real. I thought that was really good back then for me. It might have to be the theme breasts in the film Just to just to see the life Fight from from it's is is it as it is crushed into oblivion And obviously the most inspirational is the thumbs. Up right gets me time. And my and my favorite toni is that moment. Where the like. My favorite terminator moment is when they punch the gun into portions. That is literally like when. I think about how you can get around time travel. Yeah i'm a terminator i can. I can put shit in his his thing. We didn't talk about. we didn't talk about. What if launched hendrickson flight to terminate. Does that was. But i think that i think robert patrick was the compensation or the translation of lance henriksen. Playing the terminator in the first one and it makes sense in like you'd only only if his name was actually bishop. Yeah oh by the way. It's also one of three movies. Where like the terminator a predator and aliens bill. Paxton got to hang out with the alien the terminator and the predator. So that's cool out and and senate long-term wrexham's well not in the predator. Oh yeah alien vs alright are you guys. Do you guys all three of those movies that we talked about today. And not only the terminator franchise but the alien franchise and the matrix franchise around the same universal. Some sort agreed different timelines different different timelines of the same universe. Well as long as they're connected by. Bill paxton i will make it my head cannon. The matrix is a bit of a stretch. But still i. I still might Alternate universe Colonel hicks tv series on hulu. A it's not gonna happen. Who who would. Who would you cast in the lead. We'll get connell hicks. It's to be michael biehn right so i'll have it for years after years in. Okay yeah perfect. Were not young young hicks. Who has been news. Who would play you to say that he died off. Yes because that worked well for alien totally out have her be like the science office because of my did is it. See law co like ship of full of You oversee the the The colonial marines they go round the galaxy so disputes and And every season you get one credit episode one i-i-in episode although i quote not the idea of having An emissary mumble to ship it much like a wolf in next generation but Maybe that maybe that's too sa- close you know but your kids love it. Shall we shall. Oh todd michael says they're dead. Can i go now. True cam cam. Lance henriksen would've been amazing named bishop hayes. Yeah see you know what you're doing. Yeah can't remember if you're gonna if you're gonna have lance henriksen as the terminator's name has to be bishop. Okay remember refresh yet. He was playing even policemen that said about talks about the angel. Dust it must be on angel dust the windshield and broke his body bed until hours later they go. That was loans emerson. yeah Yeah he was supposed to play a so. Yeah schwarzenegger was supposed to play call. Race and launched. Nixon was supposed to play the tim night. The obviously then that. Also i don't mean to be crass in crude but by the end of this like terminator one is also entertaining because you know linda. Hamilton is an attractive woman in my regard and he's the only one it good first. Terminator is the only one with nudity is it is it. The only one. No i think there's nudity in one of the other ones right nipples. I'm i don't know double check that. I always thought the first movie was a little slow but i i did like the climax of louis. Romance is been i. I liked the second one a lot more that the pacing was a lot better. But i do like that the first one the first one honestly feels more. It's trying to be a horror film. Told on the action beats in Even though it didn't really work for me as much. Even though like the story. But i i do really love the second. Yeah oh and cat. Who's the guy who made the t eight hundred endo skeleton stan winston. Yes i wanted. I definitely wanted to give a shadow to stan winston everything and as well as the predator safe pro yeah So i just wanted to give a one of the greats of design things that was actually james cameron's idea. The design of the predator. Really really cool. They were used in winston. I think they're going to japan to do some or something like that and standard already. Been trying to sketch these ideas because they needed him to save predator movie. The first was just horrible and he was telling the agenda. Like what are you what are you doing. He's like eighty tells of stands. Got any ideas for the season and just about what was wanted to see. Something with manda bowls is like really look at this. How about this yeah. The predator designs came about looks pretty. Cool all right. Well should we call it a day. They're scotty why. Not kind of wound down on her judgment day celebration prejudgment day. So i think we've given everyone enough time to figure out what they're doing by sunday. Yeah yeah. I don't think you have the worry by the way. So do you know what i mean. Don't sell off all your goods. No i think we'll be fine this time around. Also if you find an austrian man who is asking you to go with him if you want to live. I would recommend it. Yes also if if the bus or train pulls up in front of your door don't get on what it's been never never get on the train. Never when they tell you to get on the trip don't go all right. I think that's it any tony. Do you have anything that you would like to promote. Not the moment. I wanted talking about your damn pool tony. Okay yeah okay yes. Sorry i'll i'm on a. I'm doing a show with richard and the it's a it's peachy all-star and and the that stuff Which schools were all involved in in in one way or another and yes all stars what we love about masters of the universe. You have an incredible conversation. With and richard and i don't mean to growl i and you on is that on Later today or is it the same time today. It's it's not yet should be going up the other it's gone up boards going up soon I think if it's a regular time it's two thirty which is about fifty almost fifteen minutes ago so be on on the network and there might be as second episode scheduled for later tonight. But i'm not sure we getting a nice We get a nice Like dislike ratio. A like a like the number of this spaghetti because we creating a dialogue. It's nice look but it's a dialogue nonetheless so yet we're getting out there and where we might king of It's it's a point about most of the universe which let's face. It isn't really that important but it's a point on the list. So whatever awesome. Well we'll catch you over there. Tony thanks for stopping by today. And like we tell everybody where you're welcome every in any friday so we hope to see again. Take care all right. What what are you have to promote something coming up. Next week of odier bruce odier A find wednesday nights at six on this channel martinez gadgets in guns with scott. Yeah that'd be fun I do have an episode of pg all starts coming some time soon gonna reschedule again. I'm not sure. But sometimes i get so. You don't see all wednesday night awesome all right. Take care sooner. Hopefully sooner people people watching the show we'll probably sink semi right anticipated. She's awesome seacat. See ya all right. And then there were two and then oh my god. That was the worst show. We've ever done. Yeah right just embarrassed. Why 'cause you were on well no no. Don't worry about it once. I learned to program. Then i'll work the skynet and then i'll go back in time back in time and you can correct low the whole league up. Yeah just just nuke it from outer space in morale. Get the well. You're mixing your waylon. Utah needs again. Okay well i like. I said i think they're in the same universe eve- e- will and i agree and in my head cannon in my head candidate just being zeeshan. Did you ever get time today. Sir i did i did. It was It was a fun conversation. That was it was a. I didn't know this was coming up so It was nice to get That kind of surprised when you said. Hey let's talk about terminator last week. We'll talk about german joe and judgment day. For some reason i was thinking it was the The anniversary of the release of the movie. But no no no now at this day and thank you so much for having those clips that actually contextualized amazing. Thank you you're welcome. Do you want to hear. Do you have anything you wanna add. I do. I just want to Make sure you guys know. We're here monday through friday. I'll obviously at one. Pm and four pm pacific eastern Shit goes also On monday nights. 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Episode 21 - Duel of the Hunters or 6 Arms None the Richer

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Episode 21 - Duel of the Hunters or 6 Arms None the Richer

"Because of his sweet leopard-print pink pink. Leopard. Speedo. Yes, eight at three times fast pink Leprince Speedo, pink leopard sprint. Yeah. Welcome back everybody. And thank you for joining us. This is radioactive spider, a podcast. Look back in the ninety s animated, spider man cartoon and asks, how many flashbacks can be fit into one show. I'm your host today. The mercenary, Kevin McEvoy I'm joined as always by my crack swat trained killers the predatory Peter is Dr those are rumors and they are not true. And the valiant Vero Taylor, I have the best intentions, but I often end up failing. That's scarily accurate before we get into it. Check out our social media for screen shots updates all that bullshit were at RA spider. Ponant Twitter at radioactive spider pot on Facebook and Instagram and all the links on our website, radioactive, spider dot com. Are you guys locked and loaded with some talent juice for today? I am. I'm continuing my trend of vampire episodes being accompanied by red wine. Day-old red wine beater. I'm just taking it easy last time. The gen got to me, I think it was because he was pink. So I'm just like only have one beer and it's a nickel. Brooke duplicitous Citra, dry helps our. It's actually brunettes. Well, in honor of our eight limb d- protagonist. I've got myself another octopus wants to fight from Great Lakes. So sounds like we are all set. We're ready to haul ourselves up off of this cliff that we've been hanging on for two weeks. So regain your animal instincts, and readier anticorrosive shields because we're squaring off for Neo genyk nightmare chapter eight dul of the hunters. Hunter's first aired November eleventh nineteen ninety five and is based on. Well, it's actually not based on any comic in particular, which takes us to a very awkward dishing of. Peter's comic book minute. What I thought you said we weren't going to be doing this. Hold on a second. Let me let me check my notes. Throw you under the bus with this one. Yeah. Oddly enough. This one isn't based office Pacific comic and did some research trying to find out when like man spider, like first appeared some Spiderman one oh to Peter Parker's actually cured of his multiple limbs by dot Connors. So he doesn't really become the man spider, and most of the men, spider appearances are, like, what if an alternate reality versions of Spiderman like the main thing I found was him being featured in this cartoon. It's interesting I thought it would be like, based on amazing Spiderman, number one three, where blah, blah, whatever, but no, that's okay. We'll see what John Semper junior Sen. percent by has a store for us as our first episode begins with a weird shot of microchip in the legendary battle VIN before cutting away to the punisher versus mutated Spiderman fight already in progress. Nudie Spidey laser beatdown inserts, a fire in the warehouse with some acid spit, forcing the punisher to beat a hasty retreat. So do spiders. It acid. Are there any spiders, do that? Do I have to call Adam. Again, I can't I don't think he's taking your calls what they do is in Jecht a digestive fluid. And some of course, have varying levels of venom as well. Incapacitate their prey so that they can drink their liquefied insides acid, though. Not really. It's actually do can kind of spit, some form MC acid. So I think that's sort of what they're going for here. It's still cool in menacing either way. Yeah. And it comes in pretty useful because he's getting shot at a lot. He needs to be able to return fire got to have a projectile of, of his own. This is genuinely pretty fucking creepy, and well done this little fight that between the punisher and man spider here like it feels like pleasures completely overwhelmed, and I kind of like seeing him struggle a little bit. Yeah, just what you get for chasing a man into a warehouse with extra arms. But he goes in a tempts to, like us as. Gun everything. And then when all else fails, he just tries to punch him if he just try getting away credit where Credit's due. He's like, all right. Let's go. He has no chance but it was a good try. It also is interesting that the multiple arms. He's not using his web shooters is using his clawed hands just make webs is fine with me. I mean, it's not coming out of his butt, but it's the next best thing, but it makes him, it's so much harder to dodge because he's shooting, like six streams of webbing and a time I actually appreciate the fact that they took the initiative to make him shoot webs from all his hands, otherwise his other hands just seem so weak and useless, you know, he could, like hold them up with two and punch him with the rest like a finishing nice combat. So when punisher eventually does give up and he just calls in the battle van battle fan, he says, escaped tactic eight one four five two does he have over eighty thousand scape? Tactics memories, like ready to go. Well, maybe it's like a code where it's like a it's like a certain subset of commands. Yeah. Kind of it's a tree structure, rather than just the quench. I don't know. It's a bit much takes out of big manual chapter aid is monstrosities escaped from oh, spider. Monstrosity. This the thing for this. I like the effort in doing the point of view from the man spider, that they've, they do a couple of times in the episode where they basically just show, massive fractured. Eye lenses. Fuck. Yes, spider vision. It's pretty cool. He just throws himself into the into the side door of the van and he's kind of half webbed up. So he's just full on get me the fuck outta here mode. And I don't know. It's just the whole effect there of him, throwing himself in the vans completely emptied, the back for some reason, yeah. He's got nothing left. He throws himself in really quickly and ends up landing on just all these swords and guns accidentally shoots himself in the foot off with micro doing this whole time to. He's just sitting behind the computer screen, not gonna help he built all this stuff builds it. And he gives them like Intel. Yeah, I would have liked micro to hack in and turn on the sprinklers for the fire or something just to show you, what he does besides sitting back and eating chips, while his friend be fair. We've never seen them on eating chips. Brain. You might have glandular disorder. I have to say my favorite character in this episode is Beethoven comes in and Rex place. It destroys things. It's got like version one of Tesla's self driving car technology. She condition. She condition. Out else doesn't learn it. Exactly a good thing because it's what knocks the man's biter loose, because he's kind of holding the door open, as he launches himself onto the side of this thing like it dislodge him as he crashes into every available object inside this place. Yeah. I would have liked to have a bit of a personality like blinks twice out of nowhere. You want like a Knight rider situation. I want I want, like like almost his dog kind of situation now battle vans. More intelligent than that. That'll be an his feelings. You want them to be like he jumps in is like a return to base go Donald up. Up. You don't have to yell Frank. I'm all around you. I just want like a like a double honks or something. So punisher does get away, and then I googled his hard as I could. But it looks like the line that he says at to micro look at devil square in the eyes. I blinked. Appears to be original. Oh, and this is a so low Semper Sempione episode. He's got nobody else on writing credits. So that's, that's pretty salt and a line, there liked it. Yeah. And for once his delivery of the line, wasn't absolutely terrible. Oh, yeah. My pleasure. He was given gold. And at least he didn't turn it to shit. I know you're phoning it in, but for the love of God, just try with this one sweet line. I wrote hurry fan. No. It'll be. Put in an ATP farming tedious hero. And the news starts calling him the man spider seeing this doctor Mariah Crawford puts out a call to Syria craven off aka craven, the hunter for help, the punisher meanwhile, is on the verge of some serious backstory flashbacks, as he and micro begin to prepare for their second shot at the wall crawler. I thought there already was AP put out for Spiderman because and I just checked it in the recap, she says, put on ABC for Spiderman. Spiting right. Because he could not Michael Moore. And then social, then she goes and says it again APB for spider, man. There was already APO. I got nothing for you, man. That's just straight up. Bad, bad memory on the part of San sent by oh, just gotta make sure you got it. Can you have a double? A. P B. I it's a super serious. He's up to like six stars. Yeah. Grand theft auto now for sure. The police sketch artist that comes in here and interviews the, the witness that saw man's binder escape. He's obviously moonlighting as a comic book artist. Great work jazz, a fantastic shadowing, and there's like you muscles underneath skin. Texture really took the time. I know good for him. And the guy who describes him, just like ugly. Clause, six of them looked like something out of a horrible. His claws were ugly. I'm like sorry. He doesn't believe in good, grooming. It looked like he was still wearing a suit, but like it hit all the parts but left enough to the imagination. He looks really good. It was like sexy and rip still deeply Roddick is still very Roddick. It hinted Dong, but didn't evidently displayed very tasteful. Go right they go, and they switched to John beard. Giving the news and saying that this man, spider is out on the prowl or whatever. And it's they, they transition from the drawing the sketch artist to television screen where they're showing the sketch, but it's a different sketch. It's the same thing he's got him in profile now. Yeah, what the fuck. Well, he's like try to few poses. You know, this guy is a perfectionist. He's gonna get every angle, don't you worry, Dan, professional beard is laying the verbal beat down here, though. Keep really rips into him on this one. Mutated into some kind of man spider, like they have no concrete evidence, aside, from one hysterical bystander. They really don't know that this mutation has happened. So it's kinda strange that they just assume that it's true. We also goes and calls him man spider, and I'm like, oh, he said it we did. Now we know what to call. We'll finally didn't know about that before. You know, when you have the words on a fridge, and he just takes the one man and puts it in front of spider. And it's just genius. It's revealed that dodger Crawford is the one watching this newscast. And she mmediately starts dialing. Craven up presumably, he's still in Africa. Yeah. See Yuki Spiderman has mutated. He's dangerous. You must come at once please, and she down six numbers and gets connected to craven on one ring. Which all right, that's hurting little little desperate. The four numbers that she presses are two nine three eight two nine three is a spare country code. So it doesn't it doesn't mean anything but and follow me on this one. If she was double tapping the to there, it was two, two nine which is the country code for Benon, which is a west African country. Creditors, the birthplace of do and has a huge national park in the north that does big game. Safaris the Winstons. I think so it's probably just chance. Yeah, there's no way that that holds up. I don't really think anybody was paying attention to that. But it was kinda neat. And I learned a lot today about Ben. Probably not how to say it correctly, that's probably wrong. But oh shit. Craven is on his way. Now, everyone should be fucking scared, but she's begging craven to come help really dragging his heels on this one. It's like begging him. Probably do it. He owes binder man. Like why would he not wanna come? Well, he'd hates New York. Why don't you come to the first place? It's got a weird. We end up back with punisher micro just talking about getting ready to battle, man, spider next and punisher goes and picks up. What I think is a rocket launcher. But then boom, another fucking laser cannon. It's the weirdest choice of a gun design for not a rocket launcher. Yeah. It looks like one yeah it's huge cannons. Huge. They even have an extension on the front of the barrel in it. Oh, okay. It's a really weird semi flashback here for the punisher say nam BAC. I mean if you didn't already know his deal, you'd think he was just spacing out in having about kites like. Micro is, is they didn't have the Buzek he'd just be like just thinking about kites happy place. Can you listening to me? He's like, oh, my God microbes going on rant a gun and you just let. Killers family. Maybe we don't know its all implied. My wife my wife choked on the. Choked on the straight. Or I guess we've got strangled I guess, strength got strangled. I guess the different strangled is outside choke is inside that makes sense. Maybe it was a kite runner situation to get knifed. God, we're gonna rip on John Belk a lot in this episode for shitty acting. But I love the line read for what he says, wrong wrong. He's excited by it. It's excellent. That's exactly what I'm in this to fight monsters. Then they, they show clip of the twin towers, like, oh, no. We're not allowed to remember that move on. I mean it is a little bit of foreshadowing. Now, I really don't wanna talk about it. So enzi. Mary, Jane wakes up in the Parker household, but not in the way, she probably has imagined. And she didn't make go to the police to report. The is missing. Meanwhile at the airport, Sergei craven arrives in his finest trenchcoat to meet Dr Crawford. She is possible. Antidote. But if they can't administer it soon man's biter, maybe here to stay she's standing above Mary, Jane, the creepiest way possible watching your sleep like a husky. Corpse husked corpse the fair. She looks like a fucking goal when she is leering over MJ. Yeah. Although she's taken off of her. You can tell that. Mary Jane is taken off cowboy boots, and she's got yellow socks underneath barely if that was ever a question that you had, here's your moment, figure. She has sweaty boot rash. So you can tell she's classier than Felicia because she takes her shoes off in a house when she's on a coach. Not really much happens in the scene MJ and made saying they're gonna go and may channeling her inner little. Bo peep. Yeah. That's really all happens as they transition to show you that there at the airport. That's very clearly reused animation from the chameleon episode. Those are the very beginning of the chameleon episode. I think we used it as one of our titled guards, craven naked under the trenchcoat wish I was wondering the same thing. He shows a lot of chest, and they never really show whether is wearing pants it's just darkness under the trenchcoat for the legs. And then Mariah asked did you renew ceremonial coming? It's like wait. He no. He only wears that he's definitely wearing socks like the guy who bangs with socks. Black dress socks. Tell whether he's wearing khakis or nothing under there shot him getting off the plane before. He makes actually a pretty good little joke here. But then you could see through stretch like those legs go all the way from here to there. Just what he wears on airplanes. Just just the trenchcoat, it's way more comfortable just free ball in it. I think that's a crime. This is the nineties, that's the way to get through security. The fastest just be naked. Just be naked when no metal detection just walk through the airport trenchcoat. That's it. So does he still have his powers doesn't because he goes on to a little bit of awkward tangent about how he while I do not have the super strength of a scientifically created madman anymore, and they start calling calypso Mike calypso just as shitty joke. Does the lie on Hans without his main house? I mean, and don't the females usually do the hunting. Kevin. Okay. Well, those are two different points. And yeah, so yes, she says. Ceremony cutting gun, which is the super thing to ask, then yeah, he's does online with those main, I mean, technically when they're in a pride, the females will do pretty much all the hunting, unless they're a like, sometimes of prides everyone works together 'cause they take down really large proudly draft or something, but lone males will have to hunt for themselves as well. Like if once shunned in a pride the ones that machine, but have not yet or like or coming up like they're two males over a year old or whatever they've been pushed out of their mother's pride, and they have yet, challenged for new one. So short answer is yes. And no L. I mean, the real short ads are males. Never take off their so that's a dumb thing to say. They can't hunt with them. Yep. I thought he was gonna proposition. Mariah be like listen to hunt. I must. Activate my animal instincts. And then he just gives her the eyebrow pumps. I took it more that she was just a barest. Forgot six pleats tummy. Brought your ceremonial hunting garden. She's like offer Christ six please don't put that. He's already like it cuts where. Always does the snap of that pink. Speedo. Yes. The Fundus Mingo feathers. After a really pointless, three D transition. We again see the punisher gearing up for his own hunt, and then hitting the town to track down the man spider that was a fucking long. Ask transition though I timed it was fifteen seconds. I guess it's to show that it's the other end of town. But the other end of town from what it's it takes the last scene. We saw was at the airport, which isn't even presumably in New York City assume, it's out unlike LaGuardia JFK or something. And then this three D transition takes us from Bruce, the Garg oil, and the daily bugle all the way down to the waterfront, so it takes us from where we were not to somewhere where we don't know. We are supposed to be what is the point of that? No idea anyway, Tway, you look at it was very weird and ultimately pointless transition Dafur. But then we get to the punisher, and he's just, you know, once again, getting ready to go out and track down man's biter. Got the anticorrosive shield, we don't really get any additional information here. I mean, we get a little bit of kind of micro backstory story. No pun intended, there com that backside though. But. Yeah, not. Really? I mean no. When he's looking inside, the we stand in the passenger side door looking into the window, they have reversed shot, and you see his ass Microsoft's, fucking thick is oatmeal, man. Jesus christ. I apologized to micro because now seeing more of him, he got that lake ex football player Dodd where he like is strong, but also kind of piji and sorry, micro read Reggie wrong. It's very, very physical education teacher. He can bench press the shit out of you, but he can't run like two hundred meters. Maybe I'm getting too old for all this, and he brags about having being really used to dunk. Three-foot vertical. Punish here is fucking ready for some action. Oh, yeah. Me. See some action tonight. Says it like drives off. I liked it. He has his gun has guns. He puts in the so ridiculous the gun that he puts in his in the van is so preposterously huge, it's got, like everyone's me of the Simpsons, though. Like, that's how you can turn what goad into five. Yeah. It's like just eight guns like glued together, Frankie's awfully big toys. Just speaking of glue that'll come back later. Well, yeah, glue guns. He's got his anticorrosive shield, but it's got his logo on it, because that's what you want to have the logo man. That's merchandising when he drives off. We get another update on the war journal. But this time he doesn't even bother to give a number. So I got nothing even east tired of that. Our shit. Michael Moore, Venus. Still, an empire does some peeping on Felicia hardy, and decides to get some help with his curse at ES you. He's not the only big monster on campus though, man, spiders, there. And apparently stealing the old neoprene decontaminated from the labs. This scares Debra Whitman who enlists big tough dream boat. Flash Thompson in checking out. But finds nothing is Felicia, just they're staring at a picture of more biz. Yep. It is super weird. She just like lit up a j and stereo. His eyes. Michael believes that if I look at him, he'll see me too, because it's his soul pin a couple of days, though. Or is this still like the last time we saw him I guess it was just the one night, right? Yeah. It's like the night of or whatever. Yeah. Because like he becomes Michael Moore during the day. But I guess he just rests. Yeah, I guess he's just hiding away 'cause he's low on plasma is trying not to feed if he can avoid it if he's trying to not feed. He's avoiding it. Why is he every time he fucking goes to Felicia? He's hike hungry. Buddies set, you're not gonna eat her. Yeah. I feel like he doesn't understand that flying around is that plasma like. It's one of those idiots who's like, oh, I don't care about gas prices. I always put in twenty bucks. Day don't understand fuel consumption. I don't know. That he's staring at her. And then the second she like gets up goes to the window. He recoils immediately. Trying to rid myself this plow. Smile Asia's, not gonna be able to see them from that distance and be it's just like, oh, oh, gosh. She sees me fully works. Up there fucking jacking it window. Raines really coming down. I was like. Hit by lightning. Right in the dick. Ryan the dick, what she do. She goes, she goes into like puts down the picture and then just goes in prisoners of up against the window hoping, she can see him. No. She's looking at the rain because for rainy for the moment, because the rain is super sporadic in this. Sometimes more of us isn't dripping wet at all, even though he's like standing in the rain. This is super oily cloak that is repelling. All I do like the three D reconstruction of the city when he takes off, though down a pre sweet shot. He's this episode is one of the worst in terms of cutting between good animation terrible animation, like some of the shots look fantastic. And then some of the stuff you're shaking your head. How you can't I can't even understand why they thought that was acceptable. I don't know. I actually like that. It's implied. Peter still has an ounce of humanity throughout the episode as the man spider. You. You can tell that he still sort of is present like the idea of going and get the new genetic recombination wants to go get fixed. And then they do the unnecessary Mickey flashback. So that was you. Mickey which, again, praise Mickey praise be that mouse. But that's not. I know why they picked, I guess it's to show how it works. I don't know. I think there's killing time and a hate pretty much this entire scene, actually and much of the next one cause like. I don't really get the point of the flashbacks he doesn't get like why does he want the Neo genyk combinator doesn't seem capable of using it? Maybe he's leaving standing. I guess so. But that's not what caused it. Most recent he knows that he couldn't I guess it was all in this show. It's that was the cause. But I don't know if you would understand it that much, like, what's goal here is just going to pick it up. He doesn't seem capable of using it. I have a question. Yeah. There's just new general combinator, which has been proven to make a lizard monster. A vampire a. Scar band spider scorpion monster, and it's not even under fucking lock and key. Or security is just sitting on a table. No one cares the fucking. Regulate this shit. That's a good point. I think it's broken because it was smashed up in the last episode when kicked Morbus into it because more decided to attack you instead of explaining himself. And when you look at it on the desk much tools around it so feel like is broken. This thing has been known to cause these crazy genetic mutations and stuff. But fuck it. Yeah, you can borrow it your student, you'd think you'd have to like book it out a year in advance. You know what I mean it gets, like the good piece of equipment in the lab, and you have to sign up and we months in order to get your turn to do your experiment. Yeah, the no. If it was a piece of equipment that needed to be signed out the last date, you would see would be like six months prior, and it was clearly being used in no one wrote their names. That's how that works knee. Schlab humor with Vero things are going, okay. Their work. I don't know the whole thing is that picks it up and gives his triumphant roar. Like as if this is going to matter, then you never see him with it again. So did you just put it back down in the mock? Roar is not triumphant. It's actually in pain because he realizes it's broken. And he's gonna be trapped that way forever. I don't know. It's deep deep, those Deborah, again, working late as usual when will she ever slowdown she'll fall asleep in Petri dish. If she keeps this up, it's true. I called her work life, balance, Whitman. She's making me look like quite the fool, I wanna know what her project is. I feel like she's got a good head on her shoulders. I feel doesn't fucking matter. So she gets scared from, like hearing, the roar, and then like runs outside and then runs into our good friend flash Thompson, please hold the applause Spidey fan. Number one, a good guy hero. Yeah. We haven't seen him in a while. Yeah. We haven't seen him in a while. It's good to see. He's still Chipper. No. We haven't seen him since the city is six. Yeah. True. So I mean to be fair. We haven't seen Deborah on a really long time either. We saw Deborah last episode. We saw in more biz. But there's a big gap between end the last time we saw her if memory serves I think this is actually foreshadowing something else. Like this is the first time that flash Thompson, and Debra Whitman ever meet. Yep. And it's weird because he keeps insisting on calling Deborah lead. Eighty lady. Yeah. No way that makes her sound like much older than him. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's weird, but I'm pretty sure later on the kinda start fuck. They do. They do. That's brains meets Brian, or should it be brains. Penetrates braun. I dunno shit. You say she penetrates him. She says, I think science is bad for your brain your brain. No. The guy who takes routine hits to the head playing spun violent S sport is saying that science is bad for the head pain. You the beaker bring not me. I don't think he takes routine hits. I think he's a quarterback. Get ridiculous. Sacks talk to your in Rogers. So, like flash does eventually gilded into coming inside and, and checking things out for, and he's like, oh, it's just the wind because the windows open in budget shit fell over. It's not raining for the moment, again, kind of sporadic, but that's okay. And Debra just insults him. Telling you that signs of is bad for your brain's really. And how would you know that you jocks don't have any and then runs away from the conversation, which we learned from Cecil? Apparently an okay thing to do in this universe. If you just don't want to be talking to someone you can just turn run. I'm surprised that you Sicily really surprised. I'm surprised. It's just the nerd response to just run away. You can't deal with confrontation you drop a sassy remark bail Matt here. She's just so like aroused her whole tactic. Here is just a call him the ele-. Yeah, nobody calls me alot. Midst better goes around, spooky, redheads, look like Mary, Jane until the punisher intervenes with his upgraded weaponry, the punisher soon has man's biter glued down at his mercy. But the timely arrival of craven, save Spike's neck allowing him to escape. Picturing, the man spider just woman. Is how do spiders don't mail. No male spiders, die. They don't like rip off in arm to may not all of them. They're much smaller. Fan. I did find though, that this was a much more effective way of showing that there's still some Peter Parker in their didn't love the him go into the new genetic recombination. I thought that was too complicated. But him having an emotion like you know the feeling for MJ and pining for 'em. Jay Wright and him seeking her out is a much more primal thing. And that made more sense to me. So I really do like that part. And I liked the anime glow up when he thinks it's m j. The like shiny background while she turns around in it's not I'm Jay in, it's such a letdown. His all his flashbacks are soft focus for some reason. It's really porn filter, the Vazza lean on the lens. Oh my God. That's soft core. That's that's late night. Blue. Channel spice. But even main spires like Mary Jane, but it's more like. That's true. The butter shirt and he doesn't really do anything right away, like let's them cost. Let's run away and then would sputter heads. There's I would man spiders, swinging away, he launches himself out of the van with an ejection like onto the power lift his way up there. The punisher being like because he is night vision goggles on, right? Let me see how this plays out. Maybe she's into this would've liked him to kind of just be like Benito. Van shoot me out of here Beethoven. Give me some Kleenex. What you. Shut up. Is pretty kind of turns things around really easily here, which I didn't necessarily love I always imagined. A man's biter is not just Spiderman on leashed, like with no morals or anything. But also still stronger like, you know, he's physically stronger and stuff. Right. So the fact that he dispatches him so quickly like blocks one or two blasts of acid with his anticorrosive shields. And then he shoots the gun and he's down. Blue stronger went head figured, it'd be more of a match for punisher punctured has more tactics. Mance biter is just r- are. It's a good point. It's like someone you know hunting from the elevated position or whatever those people that hunt from helicopters, or whatever. Right, sniper right from the helicopter. All right. You've got you've got nature beat on this. Well fishing with dynamite or fishing with fishing, pole and bait. It serve reminds me a anot noted kind of reminded me of the second drastic park where the guy really wants to hunt. The dude t Rex. Oh, yeah. It doesn't use any cheap weaponry. You just goes with the classic rifle, and he won V ones. You know what good for him? The punisher says web head twice it a right back to back here. I mean it's broken up a commercial break, but it super weird. And it's the same web head. Yeah. He says it exactly. He also goes he gets the glue gun shot to him goes and tells battle van to do it. And you tells battle van to compensate for wind panel fan shooting to my signal. Compensate the win. Like, did you need to tell it that it's launching things at you like why wouldn't that be already be programmed in like if he told it not to compensate for winwood it miss like it just seemed like a stupid line that they just take it with him or that, you know, when he likes zip lines over the like power stance? He he uses when he lands onto the ledge it's just like the takes the superhero knee. And then asks for the gun, it's got a bad ass. I guess it's all the looks. Yeah. Although, also speaking back to the way, he's talking the way he says innocent lives, initiate lines is pretty great. It sounds like crystal walk in the punisher. Which is a movie I would watch. And then he just starts having another acid flashback of kite. Right. It's a weird time for more Kate flashbacks. But all right. I will say it actually explains how he came up with a symbol. Because when the kite, finally falls in the water it show it makes it look like a skull, Mike. Okay. By that, so lame man. I don't like that at all. Like, oh, take, I'll take this kite moisture. Imple- like what if it had made like a piece of that would be? It looks like an anus is just happens to look like Amos is like I don't really have any choice. So I can't ever. Remember, if you hear shots when you see the kite. Yep. There's definitely gunshots as the kite starts to fall. Oh, no. His dead wife. Night, surprise craven isn't being a bit more rational in seen. He's really like trying to rat reason with him. He's just kind of like, I'm going to bear, hug you until you listen to me. He's back in his ceremonial garb. He's really feeling animal self right now. He's going for it. I think you when he's pointing a gun at himself and also man's biter like you don't really have time to explain you have to react first. And then he tries to talk sense into him after that craven with his arsenal of sex, toys time people up he's also got a pretty sweet burn here on punisher. It's pretty good though. Got him from the top ropes who would win though. I think, like I feel like Craven's kind of a little bit more ripped I think Craven's buffer. Yeah, I know he doesn't have powers, but I think craven should've just like Greco Roman the fuck out of. I think would've wound. Really punisher is like trained in several different forms of martial art and craven isn't craven isn't he's just a hunter. Fight one on one, grieving four. That's all. Does. He's like, I think craven wins. It's just fighting ails versus like like actual fighting it says here that punisher is skilled in guerrilla and military tactics close quarters combat. Infiltration marksmanship and demolitions. Okay. I'm pretty sure that goes you can't use ninety percent of that because he can use the militant guerrilla. Writing bombs and things like that. It doesn't mean like fighting like a gorilla. I'm aware of what so he's good. At one on one, but so's craven man. I think like craven wins in less the punishers able to pull out some doodad any like tasers. They do the straight up arm wrestle from the beginning of predator. I think, oh, here ravens going to pull the Schwarzenegger and tell the punisher that he's pushing too many pencils to see. I got pushing pencils because craven is I think, pound for pound stronger fans at home way in on this debate who would win craven or the punisher hand to hand combat go. No, no way, AMIS also says here that craven is skilled tactician tracker in hand to hand combat combat. Sorry, I don't know which we saw him do like when he was setting traffic, spider, man, spider, man. Bilby vitamin, well, we'll let the listeners tell us what think on this one. The important thing is that this is a huge distraction allows man's biter to notice than more. Bs is ghosting his way into a building and then eases his acid breath to escape. At least we know that the acid is able to get through that glue that makes sense to me by that just like he spent now Google on. Does he have like he rearranges his mouth parts that? It's like the sprayer he could do like a concentrate spray more shower head. Exactly ladies. Enters the issue labs to ask for Deborah Whitman's help. But unfortunately he didn't pick up a snack on the way. Flash Thompson tries to save her gets drain of his sweet, sweet plasma for his efforts man spider shows up to drive off Morbus before fleeing again into the night. Good on Deborah for going back to work after her traumatic experience. She went right back to science actually kind of like this because ultimately Michael wants a cure, so it would make sense that he would go and talk to someone he respects to be like, yo help me out. I don't know why she thought it was flashed that was talking, though. Deborah me son get off. Oh, Foot's flashes eastern European accent? That was so familiar each she just assumed that flash Tom's it was making a stereotypically spooky voice that no real person would ever actually have expecting. Maybe Ben go see, I think she was trying to establish a flirting report with flash. She was like, oh, like he couldn't possibly have resisted, my charms. Like when I yelled at ran away. He's coming back for more. Do it Debra you go girl. Morpheus seem so resigned to the plasma chugging at this point the way he says foot give me. That's not even a real forgive me that would if your teacher made, you apologize to someone. And you said it that way, they would smack you until you do it again. And meet it. Sorry, not sorry. But can I get some plasma? Great scream work from Deborah's voice. Good screams. Excellent screams. That's what I'm saying. Full along a little wet. Okay. Sorry. It's getting weird sorry. For the first time flash Thompson to the rescue. In more business kind of let's I it's just like no get away from her. Lowest rescue ever, let me just move flash runs in at top speed stops turns his back to the Munster man. Pushes Deborah away relief chair, then she suddenly speeds up crashes into a book shelves so hard at falls over on him. All this time, more BIA's, just sort of, like I guess, I'll wait. And then plasters around throws a haymaker catches, it starts draining. I like the face Morbus makes when he catches the punch. He's just like yeah. Just know like oh, cool. Stop don't. The fully work again is pretty good as usually is on their show. Draining sound as he's second down the plasmas pretty gross pretty effective. I liked it. You can hear the suckers, working working overtime. I don't know if you notice here after he fees hair goes black as if like he's gotten better. And then it just right away goes back to. Yeah, I didn't notice that could just be bad animation. It's just bad. Animation to write holy shit. I think they just forgot that his air is his blue, and it's the intro shot to. Yeah. It's changed back to blue for that bit. But yet just before that is when it's black. That's good point. His so surprised to see Spiderman. It's just a little tough is so like kinda lame. Like a re regular Spiderman be more, even though he was in pain, like you just kicked him into shit. Like he was seemed to be stronger than morpheus. And the now man, spiders, getting manhandled, even though you should be stronger than spider man, was maybe more literally just fed, so he's at as Peter out, but I love it. I thought it was should've been like he beats the fuck outta Morbus Morbus runs away. I would've liked the man spider to become animalistic in his fighting like really cut loose because he was hurting and yet, do something that was, I guess, it would be too close to the black suit, spider, man, where he almost kills the rhino but it would it would have been something cool like that. Like he he has some humanity but he's like, at the point of almost busting loose and snapping morpheus, neck or something with his eight arms. Instead we get man's butter thrown into another book. Other case just goes crashing over. It gets up. And looks at flash Thompson. We get this flashback. That was never in the show. And it makes flash Thompson look like an anime character. Just like lookback smile. But I'm definitely seen Pokomo or seen it in the intro of eighty sitcoms, it looks like that would be his character like this character name on an eighty com. Flash thompson. This is not reused animation. Unlike the other flashbacks, this is simply drew for the show, and I guess it's because all of Peter's interactions with flash Thompson up to this point have been very negative. So he really shouldn't have any good opinions. That's what you're saying. Just like he goes, he goes in pictures flash, Tom. Oh. Flushed homes in. And then just like, wait a minute. That guy just like his bully smack. And then he just starts wrangling flash. And that's when. Hey, leave him alone. He's just. Deb falls in love with flash is how that works. That's there's a bunch of that background love going on in these in this episode sentence of stuff up with scenes that ultimately, I don't think should have been in this episode. We'll say that the sounds that are coming out of man spider. You're pretty great. Apparently, he was voiced by Jim Cummings who's been on the show a few times. He's the shocker. Yeah. So and a few other background characters, including the drought guy. So this is pretty good. Animal noises from him if he if he is indeed doing that. And it's not just calmed from something. Yeah, I want to bring up the animal sounds as well. That there are weird, hybrid of almost like Godzilla e it's, it's, it's for Teradata animal enough. Like animalistic enough that you understand that it's a monster sound, but it's not. You can't trace it to a specific animal. It sounds like a lion. And you're like let's stupid. Why would the man spider sound like a lion? Well, why wouldn't sound like anything? I mean, it's not a real fear spiders are silence. So why the fuck does he have vocal cords now because he's a man part man is a man. He's fully man. Stop. Fully man man spider. It's interesting and there's also some weird rumblings and it's almost like he's trying to make words, but can't I don't know. I listened to it a bunch of times couldn't make it out. So I think it's just general noise said I don't I love the scene. I wish I wish they'd kind of like left it for another episode, all basically, all of this stuff and focused on other things. But. That's Sempe for you. Meanwhile, back on the roof, there's still the dual of the hunters going on, as punisher wrestle around real sensual, like the banter and toss around quotes before parting ways with promises of their next meeting, perhaps being their last who the fuck are these terrible hunters that they just let man spider slip away while they just wrestled each other. Oh, typical men. But then craven goes and just keep shouting fucking proverbs, the first one he drops his. Demand. Nightspot Ken fifth on it. And that's a paraphrase of quote from Boris, Yeltsin of all people who was Russian president at the time. This aired. The original quote was in Russian, so it's translated usually a little bit differently, but the just it's got the gist of it. Punish your counters that would making a reference to the lions. Estimate. But if you get in my way, one more time, the lion Incan walk tonight. I don't know where he's getting. It's really weird thing. And then he goes in bus out the intro shot again with a rocket launcher the net launcher explosive. Nets up craven? Well, craven was winning little fight when they were just Greco Roman wrestling e always does that he gets behind the guy gets real close tries to suplex. Craving comes back at them with another quote. That is pretty great. And he actually citations it as well. Study keeps his own wounds. Green Francis Bacon. John, Doug done. We have to add Francis Bacon and the John dud. John done bake. What by the end of this fucking series podcast? We're gonna have like eight citation. That we give John Francis Bacon. We need as many of those, we could chain up. That'd be. We'll see what else we can do keep an eye out the enemy of craven and the net. He kind of has like little pouty. Face is a little set to be in the net the way he like crosses, his arms sort of. Bushley and says, Francis Bacon baked through the great, Pat. Informational. Like fucking star like he thought he was like sticking to its like Francis Bacon. Mother fucker mic drop. The big guns. No more Yeltsin for you. It's all bacon bacon all the time. So once craven netted up punisher notices, the man spider swaying away. So we just got a leaves. And then craven rids himself of the net and goes and starts sniffing some hackers that were stuck in the glue. He made it very clear that you didn't have as powers anymore. But now he's tracking with cent. Yeah. Like I said, it's a does he have his powers or does he not? And would he be even useful if he didn't? I mean, I guess he's still a good hunter. So maybe can smell little. It's a bit weird. And now you can also tell that he's only wearing this traditional garb so they can reuse Annemie jump over a bunch of rooftops and it's clearly from the first one. Oh, yeah. They don't want to have to come up with a new outfit for craven. They're just like dislike he wears because he likes to hunt. Knit k cool. He I could buy that he can smell specific undertone. Some people have pretty sensitive smell many is like you said, he's a tuned hunter. Like maybe he's used to smelling like dung or something like you know what I mean? Like. What would he be wearing? If you wasn't wearing his traditional F pet like slack. He's got nineties baggy jeans on clearly cut off, so they don't affect his range of motion, I want cutoffs and like a like a tank top variety did his laws before to be nice. And she's shrunk is traditional. She. The leggings go to like mid calf. If looks like a little kid, nobody could take them seriously. Or, or she accidentally died the main pink because she washed a deep red. He's got no problem with pink. We know that already like it just pick up a new one Chelsea or something. We get a series of short seat as Harry Osborn comes to help, Mary Jane, the punisher just kinda drives around craven Crawford. Find out where Spiderman is aunt may worries man's bite, or stocks queens breaks into 'em J's house and pushes down, Harry Osborn before running off what the fuck kind of car is Harry driving sporty. I have a tiny dick mobile park in the middle of the street because I'm rich mobile. He's one of those assholes who Parkson either a handicapped parking spot, or takes up two parking spots because his cars that vanity classic corvettes. It's because he has money. Montminy MJ invites him in then she says Peter's best friend seems really odd something tells me they're not that close. We hardly know each other Osborne. I think they were only roommates for like a week. That's pretty sad. His best friend. Yeah. Why does she even why does she even need Harry at all? When go to Liz or one of their other friends, I don't know what is Harry, therefore, listen, Peter's already gone. She's looking to get some strange. She calls up, Harry while right to that. Speaking of strange craven is calling Mariah from a payphone. I just wonder where he keeps his change. You think it's in his main, it's in his coin purse. Fanny pack. Keeps his Bolos and his battle lose. He's that crazy guy on the street asking people for quarter. I'm not crazy. I just, it's a ceremonial hunting, garb were gore. With one eight hundred please calypso accept this collect calls. Would you like to accept the charges from me? I'm not sure. Hang up. Peter comes and creeps up on may like in the window, and feel is, is very similar to the scene, where more base creeps up on Felicia is just like. God, they just like murder. As you can't talk. Right. So. Cering on. So did aunt may still set three places for dinner, two of the men in her life are missing. Yeah. Well, then they reuse the. Him. Creeping on the glass less than a minute later, when he's creeping up on the window of Mary Jane's, house down the street picks this time. He just lets himself. He goes in, like may and then just like fuck this down. We'll go get me some cuddles. I'm gonna go to MJ's. I wanna see what these six arms can do except there's another man there. So he pushes him. Oh, yeah. But it's Peter's best friend action pushes so good. One hand Myrna sit down. I don't like pretty much all of this. Like I really don't feel like any of this adds that much the story, especially the, the m MJ, Harry thing makes no God damn sense. And it's really them shoehorning the beginning of their relationship, if memory serves I think they start to date very soon, because Peter is to reliable, Peter gets pushed out. Yeah. He goes to MJ pushes down, Harry, whatever and he runs out and just gives out this roller just. Think of like, oh, the pain. Yelling. He just really milks the push so that he doesn't have to keep fighting this horrible monsters like, oh, I'm so hurt. May never do that again shocks done everything. I've got nothing left. Spider takes the fight to the punisher causing him to crash his beloved battle van which then blows up NP's he webs up the punisher and takes him back to his lair. All right. Take a drink for the loss of our favorite character. Got porn out for the last homey, battle van for Beethoven. He was really cruising around there. And then you're like, man. This is the last time he's going to get to spend with the battle van battle vans. A and he's doing a stock and interest blows up. It's fucking I'm out if he knew that was the last time he was going to drive on the battle van. Do you think he would like rocked out? Maybe padded the dashboard, let it. No. It was a good battle. The end man got a get all the McDonald's fries. Micro seat. Full of like throwing FIS down to what's going on here as he goes off the cliff, you just like Beethoven know that I've always loved you battle parachute knows too late. Beto van tell micro, I love him. Kion might death. Battled van activate Berisha mode. Six seven. What did I so damn long? The man spider jumping on the hood of, of Beethoven was classic horror movie monster scare. It was awesome was pretty good. And the now it's raining again. And I'll forgive it because it looked really cool. Yeah. The animation here is probably the best of the entire episode in one of the best sequences I think of the season that I've seen so far. I actually really love this whole bed looks fantastic uses a crate amount of like there's tons attention. It's great. He also you could tell he's taking out his anger on the punisher. He's sick of the shit. He's, you know, he's, he's a monster girlfriends go on f this guy. Let's go. Oh, yeah. And like the punisher drags himself out of the van, and he tries to pull a gun on man, spider backhands it away. Effortlessly. It's like no, no, no no more of this bullshit. And then he the way he picks him up and webs up kind of stuck. With me. I definitely remember that as well way the webbing just sprays over him and leaves nothing. But the nose. How do you know to do the no fucking Lord of the rings stole that idea? Just the nose. Yeah. It's like when, when she gets photo has webbed up the spider. Yeah. It's, it's awesome. Because he's holding him with the two Annan squirting with the other two, you're like, oh, how's it going? Oh, that's always gonna web up six legs. And then he's actually I would have liked if they panned out a little bit. And the other set of arms is just flipping the bird just. Like he's so. The punisher is all webbed up back at man spider. H Q, but craven arrives to rescue him and together, they're able to incapacitate man's spider before, punisher can go in for the kill Mariah. Crawford shows up verbally bitch slap. Sim and then injects man's by some high-grade, pure Colombian science turning him back to normal. It's good to see the craven is the smart one. Now. Just like we would do well to work together. Yes, crave. Think craven could've caught the punisher when he cuts loose, but he just wanted him to follow those extra floor fucking feet and he's just like who's in charge? Now. Yeah, he cuts down news freely high up. And the way they cut some down. They don't really show it. They just show the hand doing. How did he get up there? Did he? Jordan. Punishers just like a classic teenage boys like oh, what's this, you'll fuck. This immediately takes the camera. No. There's something else that was in vibrate. The web. Yeah. Yes. What it was though Lord of the rings. While the kind of they're two different things here that made me the right mind me of Star Wars. Right this bit. Like the don't grab this thing. That's just sorta hanging, there reminded me of return of the Djeddai when chewy and all them are walking in the forest and then there's the piece of meat and chewy, grabs it, and then they get all pulled up in the net. Great always thinking with your stomach. And then later, he says the punisher said. Grady, thick of Empire Strikes Back when Darth Vader's like. No disintegration. Right to disintegrate. Feel the pain. She's, I guess they were just going to sneak out, though, because like or trying sneak up on man spider, like the vibration, just alerts him. They wanted to meet him anyway. So really doesn't affect them, very negatively and you'd expect them to do worse. But they just headbutt him three times, and that's enough to put him on his ass. They like body. Check him one each and then together. Yeah, I didn't need the power of teamwork takes them down. And then the whatever the tasers net that puncher uses actually just holds them there. And then the real his superhero shows up Mariah Kreis science and science saves the day, her speech, basically destroys punish. He turns them into a mess. Just starts ugly crying. Don't you know that nothing? You do. Now can bring them back. To face that law. Tough love enough love the micro was never willing to get your in a neighbor micro. Absolutely a neighbor. You're right. Can eat that intervention Naples pretty much on by booking business. Hi, I'm Mike Roman enabler. Do you want to surrender to the darkest recesses of your soul, because I can make that I can give you the tools to take your revenge out, fake ID's guns, whatever you need Cheetos. I can give you the tools to take out your enemies and never deal with your emotional pain. Sure. Anything you want to be fair micros, probably worried sick right now. Oh, yeah. He isn't checked in a while. He hasn't heard from Beethoven hasn't heard it. He hasn't heard from punisher. I dunno my sitter getting up from his chair. He's like, two three more hours gonna definitely look into doing something came back to micro. And he's just like well and takes the Sinai pill and just blows tyre factory. That's. That's it for me. The cubs can never find my corpse. Dr Crawford gets them to hold down man spider. And she injects him in the bum with the science stuff, she had some wacky animation, this episode her eyes are all over the place. Like sometimes she's like sid. The sloth level is apart. The transformation of man spider back to Peter Parker one scene. Always stuck out in my mind, his hands. Go back in. He starts to look a little bit more human. And then all of a sudden, just this whiff of hair grows out of his Rotestein spider skull, it's just like the stylus way. It's too handsome for spider. For a child. And then they throw the journey coat over top of his face, which is yeah, that's pretty decent. I thought about that before. I'm like, wait a second are going to see his face. And then the then she said it, I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. That's good. Space the man way as a mask for visa. We must respect his wishes that plays into why I mentioned last episode that when he turns into the man spider own he's wearing his mask like OSHA. Yep. And set it up to because the punisher found specimens mask, the beginning of the episodes, we pocket and ready to go. So they're able to put that right back on them, which is nice just slides on their spud monsters coming to because he's becoming human again. And then he looks at each of the people in turn. They're all grinning, atom, like and Craven's just super proud of her. Calypso have done it. Again, call calypso. They explain what the fuck. That means. They're completely not true calypso was a goddess who offered the gift up to these, then I guess, your Mike calypso to calypso was a Nana goddess and be did not offer the gift of life to a is she tried to make him a sex slave like that is not the same thing. She detained him for seven years to make him. Her husband. I mean just the guy out for dinner, you know, trying take interest in his interests. The Dave Chapelle line stuck on dick make him a sandwich, and don't talk so much. So not the same thing, not, even close kind of back off Spiderman, she's not your calypso. I was surprised craven wasn't just like get away. Luke how smallest Cavs. I'm not worried about him. Peter super tan, though. Like underneath his skin is so much darker than it usually is. I don't know Spiderman hit the tanning beds for several. While he's man spider. Yeah. Well, he's just covered in, in this very specific dirt from this weird parking garage, but which parking garage is it while that takes us to the bow on this episode? Raven says goodbye, new pal punisher stopping to reveal the fact that he found spider-man's layer and the World Trade Center parking garage, Qazi smell the bomb residue. Anyway. Final shot is Spiderman being perfectly. Okay. Happy to be back up. So not particularly fun fact here, craven says that I found in men's by webbing it's still had the sent a gun from that bomb explosion of years ago. This episode was aired nineteen ninety-five, but the exposures referring to was from nineteen ninety three in the first attempted bombing of the World Trade Center, and he says he's mills gun powder from the explosion, but that was not done with gunpowder at all fact, gun powder is not a very good explosive. It's, it's an even it's an okay propellant, but it was definitely not used for that attack and learning that put me on a punch of. List. I'm measure, I understand that they wanted to give craven some sort of advantage with the sniffing of the first. But why would you even bring up a bombing and a kid show? Why couldn't he be anywhere else? I smelt the sewer. I guess it's not specific enough. I don't know. They made a thing about him going, the wanna be ground or in the dark or something. But yeah, they coulda. Coulda going to pick some outs there just puts a really dark tone on the episode. But I did appreciate Craven's attempt at trying to make the punisher feel better after his girlfriend, just a motion only viscera him. He's like, hey buddy. Like we would be. To get. Yeah. It makes it weirdly sexual though. We would be magnificent together. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I wrote that to tell from the way, I grabbed you for. It would work work. Spider-man's. Gosh, is back to normal, like right after this, which is it's probably just not worth thinking about. He got a new on. We, we can move on with our lives. That's exactly what we're going to do, because that's it for this episode and the man spider mini arc, which means it's time for final thoughts and arbitrary spider ratings where we ranked the episode using whatever metric we can come up with off the top of our heads. I up today. We'll be your so I guess, I'll write this episode four dangling camera. Bates out of six all right? And for you Peter. My spider writing is seven, and a half out of ten rippling, fac guy back muscles. As for myself. I'm going to give this episode one Boris Yeltsin, quote out of a possible Francis Bacon, quote that took that one to my, the extreme of arbitrary ratings that time, not even using number dead. I can't even do the math on that. There's nothing like I'm gonna I'm gonna really explore this. I really wanna love this episode, but I just don't. But tell you what I would love. Oh, somebody were to tell me what's going to happen, next week, perhaps, with the aid of a copy of the daily bugle. He should have some big scuba moment on America. Waiting for today's puke Brock's. Big scoop. Eddie brock's. Biggest school big news, too. How did you happen to get this? Yeah. I got a copy of the daily bugle right here. And the headline says with man spider kept it bay temporarily Spiderman now turns to helping Michael Morbus become human again, but a vampire, hunter blade is after more Bs as well. All right. Well, that's going to be voted for us as we set off the top. Check us out online, all the links on our website, radioactive spider. Pot dot com. If you liked your episode, please share with your friends, family, and local battle van mechanics. And if you loved it, please consider sharing it online, supporting us on patriot or rating and reviewing us on itunes to help get the show out there. You might even win something nice. 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