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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on CodeNewbie

CodeNewbie

03:04 min | 2 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on CodeNewbie

"Page with something and you'll stuck thinking, I can't each design this. I mean, what could I put on? I guess I could this website has deaths. I guess that on annual kind of designing it with the visuals in mind, but the really good thing about starting with Google, doc is that you're designing with the problem in mind, and she really gonna help you might not sound like it. But it's really gonna help you when you come to design because you know, we were talking about Elia you'll then defining patents that you're gonna be using. Maybe you wanna show people runs that you've worked with before you want the problem there is that you want people to know that you're a credible business. And you've worked with some big name companies case, a how do I do that? Do I do something where I have different case studies or do I do like different logo walls or do? I have testimonial. And you kind of decide that in the Google doc which way is going to be the best way to solve that problem of people knowing that you're legitimate company. He's worked with of the legitimate companies, you decide that there, and then and then you can go and look for the passionate that so you can say Kay for me. I think the case study thing is going to be the best way to guy. So that you can go look full other websites that have case studies on the website and kind of look at how design the afterwards. But because you started with the content you'll solving loan of design decisions ridi before you even get into whatever tweet using design. Very nice. So what advice do you have for Koby listeners for new developers ruby even to season developers who are trying to get into design for the first time? So my biggest advice would be to a stock collecting as much designs. You can always be on the lookout, whether it's website, so apps, you create some kind of tool kit that you could use to find these design patents that you might need to us because that's gonna come in the most handy and then just try to build something fast. Get something on the page. Whether it's a website or an apple something get the content done, and then use the inspiration that you found alongside that content patterns that you're gonna be using and just slowly tried to build up from that. And don't try to all one day keep coming back to it and debugging Baroness. So now, let's move onto some fill in the blanks. Are you ready? Yes. Number one. Worst advice I've ever received is. So I think the west vice I received was back when I was freelancing told to outsource my freelance work to help build my business. This is kind of unrelated topic. But it was the anything I think of because it's the it really eight basically really didn't work. So the idea was the I was going to be that. The full front making the cells for my freelance stuff, and then I was gonna use other designers, or, you know, other developers or the content writers to kind of do the work and it failed so massively because it was it was impossible to manage expectations. It was impossible to get accurate quotes. And it was just the it was the west thing I ever did. So I did not do that for long. Yeah. Okay. Number two..

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on CodeNewbie

CodeNewbie

04:03 min | 2 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on CodeNewbie

"So tell me about some of the common design things that developers tend to get wrong. So the number one thing is spacing for me. Everything needs more breathing room than you might think and everything needs more room than feels comfortable. So I always say, you know, when you're looking at design if it just looks a bit of the place of it collected give everything more room than feels comfortable. You can always rain it back. You don't wanna be situation where you'll making people scroll and Leslie because that's not a fantastic experience. Be OB surprised. You know, how much space you need to give that in things in order for them to look good. And in order for them to be readable. Save someone goes on chill website will something and they're trying to read the content. If they've got too much crammed in that fest screen. They're not gonna know what to look out say, you know, it's a case of kind of prioritizing different things making short space correctly. So people reading the correcting fast and going on the page. Stuff. Like that. I always go on about spacing. I get laughed at a knife. I do client Wecker anything because it's just the number one thing I want about and really small things like alignment say just make sure things aligned up. It's a really simple thing to do. Just make it look such different. It really does. Just just make it. Look neat. Make sure this like line going down the left hand side of the page, if you left to right language or something, you know, you're not using too much sent a text because a lot of developers that she used on wolf a lot of center text on their website and anything I two very short lines. Maybe three maximum is too much. It's really hot to read, and it just looks really messy. So if it's more than two or three lines left lineup is little things like that that I think the biggest mistakes and possibly trying to make to designed to quickly if you can focus on those little details and make something really simple, but reading ice. It's still hard to do. But it's a bit easier than trying to go all out and create websites that look like stripe something some reading websites that are out at the minute. The most simple website that looks good probably has a lot of design wig behind it. In terms of time. Murphy and stuff like that. And just, you know, having things gone into it say, yeah, what I love about the principles. You mentioned that the things that we can all maybe a little bit better is the fuel very developer. E you know, this idea of let's focus on one thing at a time. Just one story at a time. Right. Like, let's let's him in on just color. Let's just think about color. Okay. Now, we've done. Okay. Now. It's about fonts. Let's instead of saying I'm gonna make this pretty in through all of the design ideas on the page at one time because if you do that, then you you're not really sure where the problem is coming from you just kinda see that it looks bad, and it feels messy. Yeah. So yeah, that whole debugging decided is really brilliant. And the other thing I was thinking about is this idea of connecting the. Feeling with the problem? I guess when you said, this feels messy, where's that messy feeling coming from while it could be the center text? It could be that there's not enough breathing room. And if you can kind of give people a list of possibilities list of possible design, smells that no that tie back to the feeling of messy nece, then the next time. You look at it, and you go, this feels messy you can go through that list and say, okay, which one of these is which one is the culprit in kind of have a starting point at least. Yeah. Exactly also just keep looking for inspiration everywhere. You know, online feel shooting a website design always be looking full. Although while lines look good. And I think more realistic in the way, the I work if I have a problem that I don't know how to solve I have a few places that fit inspiration land, book dot com. Why think this one called L A P A dot ninja, which is really good. This is many marketing websites fabs, obviously it sp-. To use whatever apps that you can log into right now and say, okay..

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on CodeNewbie

CodeNewbie

03:59 min | 2 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on CodeNewbie

"How? Takada with tracing paper, which didn't really teach me. I mean, it was interesting. But it didn't really teach me how to make that Helvetica. Look good on a poster or something that I had to do. And I was so frustrated because I feel like if I just had a little bit of training in terms of this is a process that you can take to make something look good. And all we're going to do is make something look good. Then we're gonna focus on the problem because that's the real important thing. I would have been able to kind of push that fair of me not being able to make anything look good to the back of my mind and actually focus more on the problem because I wasn't feeding so insecure about what this is going to look like never gonna laugh at me because I'm calling myself designer and everything I do looks fresh. I completely understand that yet. And that's been I did not go to design school, but I feel like years ago when I was first trying to teach myself design, and I was reading bunch of books, and I think a couple of courses online it felt either to fundamental like let's learn about color theory, a very abstract way, or let's learn about balance, and I'm kinda like, okay. But how does that get made? No where to put the button, I need to put him the page or the opposite, which is only use round buttons. And I'm like put why I want understand. So I feel like it's either so practical and applicable that I can't abstract. The key information the key points to make my own decisions or it's so abstract, and so kind of high level that I have no idea how to translate it to the project, I'm working on. So when you think about the ideal design course, the design programs Pacific -ly for developers who usually need to. Apply pretty quickly on the job. How do you balance understanding the fundamentals with making sure it's actually applicable? Yes. So what I basically do is I teach a content fess kind of style say the idea is I won't people to get to a stage where they have something that could be a fully functioning website ridiculously quickly and ridiculously easily because a lot of the time people just stare at a blank screen in there. Like gosh, I've got to make something look good. So I guess things like writing the content fuss, and she styling the content in a Google doc, which sounds completely bizarre. But it's actually a huge Rica moment for a lot of people because if you if you use the simple things like subheadings in Google, docs, and bullet points or in a numbers or quite stalls. You know, everything that Google docs, has you're actually making a lot of design decisions right there in a Google doc, and then translating that into a design ends up being a lot easier because you have some content patches that you can look for. I'll say, you know, we go from a writing and starting the content to than looking at other websites and other inspiration and trying to find those content patterns on different websites. We then would basically screen shot them and build up a unique layout from start to finish fill in the content over that layout. And then we get into the fundamentals of a k so what do we do about Kulla? How do we choose a base color? How do we choose an accent Cala? What do you do if you'll close? They just don't look, right. How do you? How do you fix that? What do you do about typography? How do you? Choose Pat to end up. We kind of go through it then step by step. I think the most important thing is to have something that you can work with a full page as quickly as possible because of that point you can just go back and tweak. And yeah, I have this sort of theory on really the best way to make something look good. I call it debugging design. So it's basically saying that when you have something. You can work with you. Just go back and keep looking for the issues fixing them one by one really small tiny only insignificant issues, and you just keep fixing them just as if you were writing some software or something, and you had a ton of bucks that you had to kind of you to find where the bug is..

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on CodeNewbie

CodeNewbie

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on CodeNewbie

"They just kinda go, I just I just did it. I don't. It's not really the case because that design has probably been struggling the years beforehand coming up with little teeny insignificant breakthroughs that over time at a to make it so that they can design something really nice. But when you actually look back in try to figure out how you learned to design, you don't really know. And that's been the interesting thing about when I was thinking about creating a course I had to think case, how did I actually learn to design because it wasn't through college. It wasn't through any books. It wasn't anything. I just I learn and it took about I think I've been playing with three years, and it took that long for me to really figure out how people actually learn it, and it it really is kind of small insignificant breakthroughs. And I think what happens a lot of the time is especially with developers. Don't try something. It went look very good. And they'll think I just can't do it. I don't know. Why? This doesn't look good. I can't do it. Forget it. I'm a develop another designer it's left brain, right brain. But it's really not that simple. It's absolutely. Anyone can do and a lotta times develop his redeem redeeming, the best designers. Oh, interesting. How so for me? I think it's because they carry a lot about the functionality of the project they care about things like excess ability how it works. Karen for law about user experience. That's always re every developers break into that's been really high on the list. So when a develop at she ends up being a designer, they don't do all the kind of fluffy design stuff to actually makes it experience was. So they care about that product and how it's gonna work, and if you get designed, for example in all the case, I don't want to generalize. But if you get a design who doesn't know too much about development, they can put in all these like design things that make the experience Wes, and yes, it looks great. But it's just not functionally it doesn't work much play. And that's why I really like when developers Doolan design because they often come.

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

ShopTalk

04:35 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"Ridi brady high quality reading nice icons on their an it's amazing what you can do when you've just got some really nice design assets that you can use 'em especially if you drink my paying a little bit of money that can make your life so much easier when you're signing something i like that too i think that's kinda fun sometimes if you're stuck or looking for ideas to look at not only like example full designs but just example assets you know like what a weird font or look at this cool illustration i wonder if i could use that somewhere and whether you use it or not it might just open your mind up a little bit there exactly it just adds a bit of interest your designs obviously you don't wanna use too many that's going to you you know know bring things it's not really relevant but nice icons nicer the stations they just look they just make the website look reading ice they didn't have too much of a a low the time but they they really help lifted design and make it look really good site these kind of resources already good and i have another one which again i should have come prepared with a list of resources that i was going to show with you but i can share with you on about lights sure sure breach of your twitter or such as so people can find you yeah 'cause i think my next question was you know you're like okay i want to really cool here unit and it's like i cannot draw especially in a computer apps so i think this this guy seems really cool just kind of like assets but not you know and i guess not not terrible like like i don't know windies or whether ice hockey stock that's the tough part to knowing where he can get quality resources because i i mean i searched for something victor in just get just garbage miles of garbage and you spend a whole day and then uses quick 'cause you don't want to yeah exactly and i've i've got a few videos about to post in just on twitter or something like that where i actually show you how i added these 'lustration because you know it's it's one thing to find reunites restrictions and you i ate a great results for that but you know maly have to do some editing to make it fit your website editing things like colo's or even placement sometimes an illustration has has little elements aren't really relevant to what i'm doing like i found one the other day which i'm using my redesign of design academy which had layers like bitcoin stuff in it k so obviously i don't wanna use that my design academies got nothing to do with bitcoin say i just found some similar icons that i could switch out that were more related design so it kind of looks like i have this custom illustration made but i didn't i just got it from you i eight but i did some editing and so i think that's that's another thing that's been released with people on the call so i'm going to be creating some free days to show how high yet she go about doing that and it's a lot easier than a lot of people think can the results are just if you spend that little bit of time the results the similarity between tools can be an issue but yeah if you make jurors to your thing can let get just changing the colossus the biggest thing especially with a lot of people don't even change the colors at the ica in a few using a particular gray like just make it your way make it your brand green or blue or whatever color isn't it it's such a small thing and it sounds insignificant but it makes different much thing the design rather than just whatever tackle by i come back well i know we kind of have some hard stops here so i don't wanna get anyone overbooked but chris did you have anything else no i think that was a good journey and yeah we'll we'll make sure that there's plenty of links in the show notes two things in case people like what was that again you know and of course laura's own courses and things that laura does so dave do you wanna do the rabbit or thank you so much for coming on the show and teaching this her nerves about designed so really appreciate it for people who aren't following you in giving you.

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

ShopTalk

04:12 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"You know you see people developers taking this course and like do you have a bead on like what things are resonating with them the most you know are they if you've witnessed some developers have their design a ha moment where they to be honest of it is that starting with the google doc i mean that i'm not she surprised how much resonated with people because to be honest i kind of thought i can no one's gonna believe that this makes such a difference i didn't if they're going to do it they might just say this is stupid i'm not going to bother i'm just going to i just want to start with design so i'm just going to go straight into the design but i've had so many people say that has really helped because it's something down that something they can then translate the browser translate photoshop or whatever sketch whatever they using and then they can just start make make these small changes so that those probably a title at the top there might be one of these like you know sentences or paragraphs that explain what's going on maybe down lower than that you could you could probably just say like square bracket feature icon paragraph so it's like there's no designed to your like you're starting to think about what's going to go on this page when i do design it that's what this google doc thing is about and kind of you know helps when you're then looking at other websites full inspiration and unite you you know what you're looking for rod within just being like i really liked this website i'm going to copy it which oversee isn't going to work because you can't just copy a website and what a lot of people do when they find a website they like they make their content fit the website that they likes content which isn't going to be the most effective thing you will say risking i just blatantly copying something which you don't want but i do think there's a lot of merit in taking kahn design patents from different websites stitching them together to make your own design because a lot of websites us very very similar patterns and you see them over and over again maybe you need a testimonial so you find that testimonial the founded maybe this something you can do with that you can use that sounds quite unique so you probably couldn't just copy that outright but you could do something like it maybe does another testimonial that you say why you like a different element and you can sort of put together and make something of your but you don't have to you don't have to feel like you need to be original to have to have good design you obviously you don't wanna copy anyone but i mean even designers take inspiration from the websites on copy design patterns i do all the time he just don't wanna copy everything so i think we are promised some some of your favorite design resources sites yes they will inspiration when i really like his code lapa dot ninja which is away and i in g a that's really good fit inspiration from octane websites there's also land book dot com and another one i really like if you're doing sas website with something like that i think it's pricing xyz know that she i knew it something to xyz i can again find the link and send it to you i haven't heard any of these so that's great yeah and the the reason that wouldn't say good is because watch that's not the domain split on the website or what this is but the recent that one's get is you can fill to by pricing pages maybe that's where the euro from pages based on what the pages trying to use less pages something hang pages and then in terms of flight illustrations and stuff like that if you've got a bit of if you've got some money that you can invest in it one website i really like his code you i eight dot net and that scott so many that's lert civilization some of them are.

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

ShopTalk

04:01 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"Same yeah because it was like it was like they're like weirdly nice in they're they're built for kind of marketing web apps almost and they're like full color vector illustrations cash and you can change the color in the browse say e can if you have a brown color you just change it in that it will drop down at will change all the colors so it's brendan chill but i'll i'll find the arale and you can post it in share nights or anything like that but there's just a lot of resources that are coming out now that really helpful full people who feel like they can't design because they kind of take the hardware out of it he just have to make it match basically kinda working through this design i you know i like that sketch it out in docs kind of like just get your type i think we talked about it we have tim brown from type kit on a while ago but you know we talked a lot about the type choices being kind of sold website and i like that you know in google docs you can really kinda start in the soul of that page in how it's laying out you know does this text get center does this techs go you know what are these words we're working with i think that's really cool very content starting with content content i sort of like that and then from this ten t bugging idea you know i can ship that doc or google doc and then then this kind of just iterating rain it's kinda like oh you know what there needs to be a button here because no one knows to click on the thing okay i'm gonna just do that or you know you know need more prominent hero section or featured items so i can just kinda add like that approach very much it's a lot of it's really a mindset change you another reason i really always liked working with developers is because most pretty much all of them i've wept with have very good taste design and overseeing these are the ones that coming to me to hire designers obviously they appreciate good design they really like good design and they can they can see they can tell the difference between good design design they like and design they don't like and really all you have to do is try to figure out a k why do i like that and why do i not like mine and if you can just you change your mindset a little bit it's not just mindset you know this does oversee principles rules that you need to follow and stuff but a huge amount is that mindset thing of them just thinking i can't do this i didn't do it right fest time that full i'm terrible but it's really just very making very small changes that add up and what will happen over time is you'll make less changes because you'll learnt a k so i need to put this much facing between this list because last time i did it it looked to crump to say you went that make that mistake again and then you'll look for something else and you know you just the more you do it the more you kind of build up this this knowledge of design which is you know it's it's it's really interesting to teach because there's just the so many very tiny details that sound insignificant but when they all come together it makes something really good i mean hopefully that sort of eases the fair little of designing it's it's really small things it's not anything huge unless you're working this insane design agency that wins design awards in doing something reading out that for the most most people doing that so it's definitely load able it might take a time but it's definitely doable shop like.

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

ShopTalk

04:14 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"Always thought any design in a google doc sam doing landing page or i'm doing apprising pager i'm doing whatever i'm doing a blog or something basically right the entire page in google doc and actually use the full matting in google docs to figure out things like hierarchy say i'll use the headings hey chuan and then i'll use the two and then i'll use bullet points for maybe if i'm doing if got like three key features or something and i'll i'll emphasize that words by making the bolt and i'll actually do a lot of the because they're designed to an i'll do that straight in the google dot because i'm not actually i'm not facing on things like calero anything like that and i'm getting the content done fast and that will say helps i always say if a landing page can convert as a group docu doing something right and i've actually known people who have had landing pages the argue will talk and they have actually combatted fifth things like you know even services design if you've got something productized and they've actually been really really well because that's how important the content is so it's really well spending some time there but the other thing that that does which is really useful is once she'd been formatting the different the different content areas that you're gonna have that helps you when you're then looking for inspiration because you know what you're looking full so say you have three bullet points with maybe two lines of text underneath you've got like a heading to lines of text new out three times you can then go to these different inspiration websites tire few my favorites if few interested and you can just look for other websites that have got the because that's a common patent the three the three points and there's a ton of different ways that you could show that you could show them next to each other with an icon on top or maybe in a three boxes with like a illustration or something or a photograph or you know you could have them alive each other with an image next to it if it's something that needs explaining more as an image like a screen show something like that and that just gives you lows of ideas and then know what you're looking for and so what i do is then i take every single content pattern that i have and i just will spend ages just looking through my favorite inspiration source in finding those content patents and i'll screen shot those when i find them and then i'll also stitch together to basically make my layout so once i have that i have a layout ali the screen shot them stitch together photoshop or if it's quite simple just a usually to be on his just have a pen and paper next to me and i'll just remember what i was going to do you know image is going to something's gonna get hia and that's when i then take it into fighter shop or whatever you're using and then i just basically will use a nice phone as something like sons just whatever the most default nice phone that you have is an all copy that text into the document roughly in that layout and then you've got you don't have to worry about the imagery just yet but you've even with just that you pretty much started you've got something that you can work with and then you can just like i just stopped going written start adding the now you can go through the colors and overseeing the course i teach you how to choose decent colors and how to spot good ones bad ones and all that kind of thing you can look at the the phone if you're not happy with the default one that you've chosen you can try different ones and then you can go into the imagery which for a lot of people is the hottest pop but there's an awful lot you can do if you can't draw you don't a lot of people think to do something with imagery they have to be able to roll but this so many resources out there that i had she came across one recently i'm trying to think if i can remember the name but it's basically free 'lustration 's that have really re highquality really nice i think i think i remember i would think it's the.

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

ShopTalk

03:36 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"That collaboration design wise is great it's just feels nicer to me than a shared dropbox folder or the you know what's the joke everybody makes final final final final stuff never like there's not smooth process i know like companies like abstract are trained to make that you know like version control in little more collaborative an interesting to see where that goes because it it's definitely i don't know that's in some ways masters social coding you know in in a while is social design is still tough yeah difficult still you know making sure everyone has the latest version of the whatever the color repellent the whatever like that's still it's difficult when i did i've done a lot of research into design systems because i've just i'm fascinated by them and how teams use them and but it's it's so much work putting something like this together that your whole team can use actually find useful in wet with different people's wet flares and it's a minefield i mean i think our current process right now and is like extreme shots kind of hack them in photoshop you know like like how does yeah like like let's see i like that work i mean i know it's probably a little jenky sounding but i find that way to lori said you design photoshop and then you get to the browser and then you probably don't go back to photoshop i find that's mostly true but if you ever do go back to photoshop it's usually he take screen shot of the browser window drop it into photoshop and then starts smashing it apart you know exactly yeah because it's a more realistic view of what you've got because even between ship in the browser things pretty much always change say facial becomes outdated pretty quickly it's sometimes it's about the idea you know it's like here's this with the sans era for you know weird you know slabs they're heading or something just trying to convey the idea quick in that screen shot to photoshop is fast but where i'd be curious so i you know developer i think it's great first of all that you are democratizing design like trying to or trying to get you know 'cause there's often like developer versus designer or always going on or something and you know and it's developers can't design they you know they don't understand this beautiful time honored disciplined since peter rome's you know but i think you know i think there's a i think a lot of people can't do it to to a rudimentary level or or to kind of a a just i don't know like understanding the basics i think most people can't understand the basics it's not super super hard but i guess so if i meant developer and i'm sitting in front like a blink campus or whatever what do you have tips for like finding inspiration or drumming that up or or you know with how do i how do i was how do i draw the first rope on the campus so i mean i probably out so that from a marketing website point if he because it's a little bit different but the first thing i do is i i.

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

ShopTalk

02:38 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"Know something that's worth paying money for so that was quite opening for me that just a redesign of the marketing website with the product state exactly the same really increase the amount of people he bought because it increased the troas treating yeah exactly just helps people trust you i suppose that they think oh this is actually legit yeah falls looking if i was in davis position looking at to our readers one of them had no demo or a junkie front page in in some other one had some great marketing page that showed me all the experience of using it would be a no brainer i wouldn't i probably wouldn't look at a list of features that i want and compare and see which to have features that i'm more interested in it would just i would just look at the nicely designed landing page wanna be like i'm gonna use that one 'cause i just looked in like that when in particular particularly had like a dollar a month i can pay for like for hosted version you know i and i went with five dollar a month one so like like you know five eggs converges person a little bit of design you know seems like free money to me but yeah i saw landing page the other just yesterday i was looking at one that i thought was really well done the homepage of service you know and they had like a block quote style kind of testimonial thing on there and it was so cool looking at had this like you know like watercolor like splash behind it and then over that was like a dark dark colored speech bubble looking shape where the actual text of the testimonial is in and then the you know had a because at the speech bubble ahead a little arrow pointing down to an avatar of the person who is saying it in their name next to that and then like there was some like emphasized words in the block quote that had this like cool gradient underline underneath the word so it was like emphasis without being a link it was really nice looking ivan tweeted it i think and i was like i did at that moment to like out bet you nickel they didn't do that in sketch remind me of what dave said you know that they you know that it just doesn't encourage that type of weirdness there's too many like textures roster stuff going on here that sometimes designed the design tool doesn't necessarily encourage like that was vote photoshop that would have been great to do it because photoshop has all these has vector tools on top of roster tools.

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

ShopTalk

04:23 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"I guess when you're teaching i guess developers how to design or kind of the debugging process i mean do you mostly because on the marketing or like are you pulling like into like appier design because i imagine a lot of people have all all that whole system you know is that kind of where you want people to say this course i'm focusing on marketing websites purely because it's easy to teach the basic principles for the moxie website because you don't have to worry as much about unite you and stuff that you'd have to worry about i think i felt like designing an episode different from designing a marketing website and i i don't know if i would be able to teach the principles effectively without making some horrible you in mistakes so the this is focused on marketing websites but then i plan on releasing a bunch of add on courses the people he want to go down tracks there's a lot of people who need to know more about u x and how to design web apps or something like that dashboards and on boarding and all this kind of thing and then this a lot of people who wanna lend more about marketing websites that's gonna look great and also bruce combatants that we're gonna gay down that reno a checkout flow in what you need to consider when you're checkout flow a pricing page or if you have a sas if you have something else say it when i was sort of creating the cools it was really hot to encompass all of that so i decided to have this fast one that i release his co design fundamentals and that's basically just the it's the principles toll with a marketing website say if you've got an if you've got a web app or something i i recommend people do the marketing website full that web up just to learn it and then you you're going to be able to branch off in chew show whatever trucks that you want to eventually i just haven't haven't got around to doing that yet good i you know somebody said i haven't been rss readers which is tonight here nerd but somebody sent me one in the kate why don't use this one you know it's free and open source and i was like oh well one i didn't even know it was on so so i reached out to them in just or i just i was looking at the page and it just said well okay here's why like i wouldn't use it because i there's not a screen shot on the page like there's it's just a heap attacks and then just like go to the get hub and just like i don't wanna do that won't like see the product and they wanna see without ours as reader looks like feels like in kind of experience before you even install it or give money or do the open source and so i just yeah it's very valuable you know if you working late nights on a little side project and trying to get it right and then you don't like around all of a sudden knowing like download your thing you're going to be gut it but if you did a little bit of work in design element or it's kind of a lot of work but if you just kinda like sunk your teeth into that side of things i think the payoffs huge i think marketing websites often take a little bit of their bit of an afterthought a lot of time but like you said they already important and i she had an experience went with my fast product client portal which is the word press plugin i when i was just when i sort of started selling that i put a pretty rubbish landing page at it wasn't very well designed anyway and then type kit broke site will the like times new hermano something at it just looked awful and i sort of i wasn't getting that many sales and then i redesigned the website and i actually had people email in who bought and said i bought when you redesign the website because when you had your old website i wasn't convinced that you actually put any that you're actually putting back into the product because the marketing site wasn't very good but now you've given me more comfortable this is something that you're actually actively updating you.

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

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04:38 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"In the browser it's taken me a lot longer to get to something uncomfortable with and i'm usually i usually give up a lot faster so the end result for me isn't as good as when i start in software and i can just really easily move things around i don't worry too much about making it pixel pathak's or anything like that it's just to kind of get me somewhere as as quickly as possible but i do have lows of people who go through and they just line in the browser so it's kind of it's personal preference in reedy what you'll most efficient in i think is the most important thing interesting i know personally i feel i love working in the browser primarily or like i dunno it's spend most of my time but that i'm not particularly creative they're and that might my time in there like my creativity is used for i don't know creative sia solutions to design problems or whatever but not like i i wouldn't start with a blank canvas of html and css in really like explore layout possibilities and color possibilities and what's next to what and what's feel much quicker and more exploratory in not the browser yeah i think i think that's right and i think i mean i would say you have to design in insofar i think design if you're especially if you're fast i might she just re slow at designing browse anyway but if it's something that you do every single day and you're pretty fast it and you don't really feel like you need the software than absolutely just keep doing what you're doing and you're probably going to have to have a bit of a pen and paper next to you to kind of do that mole just sketch out lamps and just figure out where things are gonna go and then you look for inspirations to flight that and just tried to have some kind of plan but yet especially if you're doing something simple i think designing in the browser can can work it's just yeah for me personally i'm slow and it takes me a long time what's your feeling like dave these days her design you know i i don't know i do a lot of prototyping in the brother in the dutch just for me but i also work with two designers who still they use photoshop we're kind of having a design discussion this week about you know the classic sketch vers photoshop sort of thing i'd be curious where you land there but just that they felt like sketches way more i guess oriented for like flat design does that mean you know maybe that's a over generalization but they felt like they couldn't just be weird in like us a bunch of filters in like just really make something bad in then like work back from there so they kinda like the photoshop sort of thing so i don't know we work around there i lot in illustrator so that i can i know i can then kind of have in this g to work with and then kind of manipulate that something i do i i'm not really a great example here i do i do suffer affinity designer just because there's no sketch for for windows and it's kind of like a like a pixel meter thing and i can kind of express myself they're a little bit yes things about affinity at steph when it to try it myself just to a lot of people say they've been using it and they find it it's really nice alternative to fatal shop well in trying to just you know i don't want to install creative cloud on the machine and download everything and do all that you know in the always updating and stuff so are like the vandy just it does what i want it's almost like a fireworks feel to it but yeah yeah i think i have a i have sort of been i guess kind of an unpopular opinion when it comes to tool sketch fezzes fighter shopping will that actually kind of agree with the with them you'll call you you talking about in the fuel designing marketing website for example it's i've used base and fighter shop is so much easier for me any because i used it serve ridiculously long so i'm pretty fast in it but also when you're doing a marketing website a lot really comes down.

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

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04:16 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"Know is gonna last so this is it's four that type of person but you really you're teaching design fundamentals and design yet war design principles and okay yeah and that's what spoil him a little bit what what are they is it are you teaching you know picking nice fonts and you know you have some grasp of lie in height or and pick some colors that go together and here's some easy to make mistakes that kind of thing i mean it it's kind of that going on my one of the big things that i i tried to get across is the idea of debugging design opposed to try and design something from scratch say i tried to teach you how to recognize let's go into that yes what is what does debugging design is a little turn that i'm attempting to coin say it actually came actually came about i am my partner was building at gaming machine and he was he spent ages he was basically in the bathroom on the top floor trying piecing this thing together it took like a whole day and he finally put it all together and then he looked it in and switch to on an absolutely nothing happened and i was thinking he's going to completely freak out because you know he spent all this time and it just doesn't work but he kind of surprised me because he just said oh okay so you know i'm going to just figure out what's wrong and fix it and he started debugging his machine and what really what research clicked with me at that moment was that's pretty much how i designed so i'll spend a whole day and i'll be working on a design and i know it's going to look it's not gonna look great it's not gonna look how i want to but because i know that i'm expecting it i'm comfortable with it and i know that the process of design actually starts when you've got something that you can d bug so i thought that was really interesting because when my partner he's developer when he starts to design he'll get something in front of him he'll spend a day also doing something and then he'll say it looks british i give up i can't design i'm not creative it's just not in me to do this and so i really want to get across that that's not the case it's just the same as if you're building a game machine and it doesn't switch on you don't have to worry it doesn't matter that it doesn't look good doesn't look what you expected now is actually the time where you can actually start to design so you kind of go through then when she got a finished piece and you go through and you learn how to identify where the problem areas are and then you learn how to fix them so i kind of teach it in that kind of process say i tried to get the students you go through the cost i tried to get them to a finnish design as quickly as possible without giving them the expectation that what they come up with is going to look any good and then we focused the rest of the time on just trying to piece by piece tweak it make it look good and yeah that's that's basically what i mother interesting approach so you like let's make sure you have a final product early in what you're learning and then and then it'll probably be full of stuff that could be a lot better than the rest of the time you spent fixing what they got exactly it's probably going to look bad but you'll get there really quickly and from speaking to people that's been really big help for them because they say you know probably the number one thing that people say to me is the they just can't stop they have no idea where to start and they worry about it and they think it's gonna look good from the getgo so they'll start with navigation and then the wet confident that hey ray sexual something they'll try to make that look great before they move onto the next section and it just takes forever so if you can get them to finish at least one finish screen really really quickly with you know basically as as minimal is going to always take a bit of asa but yeah as minimal effort as you can then you can actually stop to stop the design process are you right in html in css are is this are you are you not not.

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

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04:04 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on ShopTalk

"Have to go back in figure it out so yeah well exactly that's that's the truth and yeah isn't aren't marketing budgets can't be so fun because one of the things i think of is how much real estate you have when you're in the app land a lot of times you're not you're not designing something that can conscription and breathe and has all these menus you kind of like can you have some space to yeah you're not less restrictive work yeah i love that okay and also think it's these are probably some smart developers to to be working with you and bring somebody on who's clearly very good at design i have here in my own notes that i wrote it's designed cheating because sometimes i think of it that way if you if you're developer new work on some little eappen you just are like i can handle the design part you slap together some you know gnarly looking homepage for whatever your thing is it's an app or it's a plug in or some kind of thing you're trying to convince the world is great you can get just way more mileage out of it should you invest in the design center at least that's my perception of it you'd find that to meet you yeah i think so it's is one of those things it's really hot so a lot of developers have like i mentioned they have a lot of ideas so they have a lot of side purchasing j some open souls things like that and they just isn't the budget to hire design even though it would save them so much time so really the idea behind the cause was to help raise developers who have the projects and they wanna make decent as quickly as possible that not unto any allusions that it's going to be win any awards do anything like that but they just wanna make it look really nice just clean easy to understand easy to absorb and then you know if the product idea takes off and they stopped making so many for it from it then they can go back and then reinvest into maybe hiring zeina or something like that but the idea isn't to turn them into design us because you're right it's kind of like a black hole in it you could spend just weeks and come up with something that you'll still not happy with and it just feels like a lot of wasted time and time is money when you feel focusing too much on that unit focusing on selling say it's just trying to find that middle ground between those things you're scrubbing the kind of the target audience for your course there right these this is for you tell us about the course yes the causes i mean the idea for the course came about from the free nights that i was doing so i was working with these developers they had maybe an idea that was it it was a working product that was profitable so they could reinvest but then they had all these new ideas that they didn't necessarily want to invest in it in a designer at that stage until it validate today a little bit more so the idea whilst to help those developers make that side projects looked really good whether that's the app stage or whether it's the marketing website or whatever it is in pretty much the shortest time possible without turning them into a designer say i think if a lot of developers have these basic design principles in place it something that will really help them moving forward basically abba because the great thing about design as opposed to development is designed doesn't really change that much oversee we have trends and you can follow the trends if you want you can decent in completely different but the basic principles pretty much stay the same and if you just know little bit about how to design you can get really far so it's it's a skill that's gonna last you for really long time as opposed to when you waking development things are just changing so often this new framework she'd go to lan this just a lot going on so it's quite nice to be able to learn something that you.

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on Startups For the Rest of Us

Startups For the Rest of Us

01:39 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on Startups For the Rest of Us

"Yes i do and last one what's the most ridiculous fact too you know i would say i was looking at interesting facts you the day can you look i didn't i suck at lightning rounds no i pulled really hard questions facebook that's the fun why i have one on the tip of my tongue i was literally on reddit last night and our embassay in something about something that was really i was on today i island you know that reddit thread and they have a zillion things bread yeah quote on the thai i figured knowing knowing you having hung out with your few times i figured you would have something there would be some some weird thing about pixel currying or what is it font curbing or something like that but possibly also lebron i'll think of brunch and then i'm probably just going to be emailing you whit facts for the next year oh yeah that's this was definitely a curveball so i appreciate you a participating in the in the later on there i think that kind of raps us up for the interview if folks want to keep up with what you're doing it is is it twitter dribble what what's the best you'd think yeah i'd say twitter say tweeted com blow slush lorry m l a u r a un swear most active sounds grade i expect i'll see you at other michael karp here soon yet we guarantee vegas the grave when i think say i'm looking forward to that very cool if you have a question for us cool avoid smell number at one eight eight eight eight zero one nine six nine zero or email us that question that startups for the rest of us dot com.

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on Startups For the Rest of Us

Startups For the Rest of Us

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on Startups For the Rest of Us

"Taking it to try and figure out how i can link everything so it's not as sporadic as it feels right now sure yeah and you know another lesson a that i'm i'm taking out of this conversation is something that i screwed up in the early days this two thousand five to two thousand eight as i was building and and acquiring products mean it's a mistake you are not making and you are building products that have shared audiences you know i had at one point ahead ten websites and products in web services and really almost none of them shared the same audience you know is like designers and people getting married there was like a wedding site and trying to the other one like people interested in bonds duct boats rate it's just ray was random stuff than you and you've build stuff with overlaps he can pull that ecosystem yeah so i like i like your headline a design academy daio it's is designed principles for developers taught in a non pretentious non bullshit he way you come up at that yes it was sam yeah is based on a frustration that i thought your frustration that i had and i know a lot of develop a shan when i was learning how to design i freely strolled it took me so many is to get to a level where i thought i was half decent and i found old design teaching to just be unhelpful but so pretentious will sounded really good but putting it into practice was just it was virtually impossible so it sort of came out of my frustration of that and most of my freelancing clients develop as he had this issue where they wanted to i was working on a project with developers and they wanted to they always had side projects going on so one thing i've learned about develop assists they they're very creative and that they they always have towards that that building and they always have stuff that that doing and where they really feel held back is their ability to design and they really love good design but they don't necessarily want to actually become a design ah but they want enough knowledge to just may to make it say they can create fast.

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"laura elizabeth" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

KDWN 720AM

02:10 min | 4 years ago

"laura elizabeth" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

"The safe return of his daughter sitting behind him was laura wallin's mother sister brotherinlaw and her boyfriend who is the father of the baby she is carrying mark owen said we do still believe he is alive somewhere lieutenant shawn geoghegan deputy director of the major crimes division said county police are still investigating her disappearance as a missing person report than do not have a reason at this point to believe there's thin foul play but as each day passes we become increasingly concerned burma's walling and for baby the last contact from the teacher was a text message september four through her family that concern them enough that they immediately called the police police have declined to say what the text said and yesterday declined to say to whom he was sent with investigators know of any connection between laura wall in the only marilyn's and anyone at the apartment complex were her black two thousand eleven ford escape was found than where she was last seen per father said he'd become certain something was off when he called wild bleak high school on tuesday morning to check of his daughter had arrived in was told if he had not been there he'd asked if she had arranged for some the two teacher and will solve no he knew he'd been preparing for classroom for two weeks and had a joy in her heart for her job search for laura elizabeth walling continues in washington senate republicans are struggling with how many billions of dollars president donald trump's tax code overhaul will add to the deficit as they work on a gop budget plans as a prerequisite to any farreaching changes in the nation's tax system senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and gop members of the budget committee myth yesterday with two top trump administration officials to make progress on forging the budget plan which is required to stave off potential democrats blocking tactics than past the subsequent tax bill with only a yopie boats the as yet under acted phil to overhaul the tax code is the top priority for trump and republicans after the collapse of their efforts you just mantle barack obama's health care law trump's top economic advisor fury coun send the treasury secretary steven mnuchin met with the connell the republican from kentucky and budget panel members senator ron johnson from wisconsin said from my standpoint let's set ourselves up for success on tax reform before the meeting the.

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