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ELVIS PRESLEY: Death in Graceland
"Our episodes deal with serious and often distressing incidents. I may not be suitable for children if he struggled with addiction phil depressed or suicidal thoughts and when you need support please contact you crisis center or reach out to a friend to ask for help the offering of monday august the fifteenth over presently woke at four p._m. And spend the evening playing with his daughter lisa marie and watching tv later that night he would leave graceland eleven pm to visit his dentist and put return learn home a couple of hours later. I hope thirty a._m. Before going to sleep on six i am i was. We'll take a handful of painkillers prescribed by his doctor. It included a lethal cocktail mix of sleeping pills at an assortment of other depressants later that morning at nine thirty a. m. still unable to sleep. Elvis would take several more pills and head to the bathroom carrying frank adams book the scientific search for the face of jesus just a few hours later ginge oldenburg discover elvis unconscious on the bathroom floor in a pool of from it sadly at three thirty pm elvis presley would be pronounced dead at the age of forty not to baptist medical center in memphis join us on a supernatural journey as we take you on a tour of the king of rock and roll music history. We tell the story of elvis final days in memphis explore the mystical facts and investigate his back stage exit to the afterlife this this is death by misadventure <music>. Mark <music> elvis aaron presley was born diverted and gladys presley in a two who room house in mississippi on january eighth nineteen thirty five under the zodiac sign of capricorn his twin brother jesse was stillborn leaving elvis to grow up as an only child raised by loving working class parents elvis family had little money and they move from place to place place frequently his father vernon worked a series of odd jobs and in one thousand nine hundred thirty eight was sentenced to three years in prison for forging a four dollar check and spent less than a year behind bars. Elvis was devoted to his parents especially his mother gladys and was raised to have a strong faith. Anything god he attended the first assembly of god church with his parents were gospel music became an important influence for him and he was baptized when he was nine years old old his roots deep in the pentecostal faith. Speaking in tongues was not uncommon elvis loved attending church and would often run down the aisle l. during service so that he could stand directly in front of the choir singing along imitating their movements elvis's highly protective mother gladys who never let him out of her sight decided to buy him something special for his eleventh birthday she took him to the hardware store and bought a gift that would change the course of rock and roll history a six dollars ninety five cents guitar afterward elvis received no formal music training but he had an innate natural talent to sing and play the guitar. The presley's moved to memphis in nineteen forty eight. When elvis turned thirteen as a teenager he was uninterested in school aw and was considered an outsider instead he completely focused on playing guitar and listening to a huge variety of records ranging from country country bluegrass blues and gospel to mainstream pop and even opera he also started to sport a distinctive look with sideburns and styled l. hair. This image would later become an elvis trademark. Elvis had his first taste of musical success a few years later when he won a talent show show at his high school in memphis. He graduated in nineteen fifty three becoming the first member of his immediate family to earn a high school diploma. After graduation he worked at a machinist shop and drove a truck before launching his music career in august nineteen fifty. Three elvis went to visit sun records. He wanted to pay for a few minutes of studio time to record a two sided disc my happiness and that's when your heartaches begin it was a gift for his mother but also he hoped he would get noticed an offer to record deal however it didn't come to anything not long after he failed an audition for a local vocal quartet the song fellows us he told his father they said i couldn't sing in january nineteen. Fifty four presley cut another record at son. I'll never stand in your way and it wouldn't be the same without you but again. Nothing came of it a few months later. In april his friend ronnie smith after playing a few local gigs with him suggested he contact eddie bond leader of smith's professional ban which had an opening for a vocalist bon rejected them after a tryout advising elvis to stick to truck driving because you're never gonna make it a singer however later on in the year the sun boss sam phillips invited elvis to come in for another recording session initially it was unpromising scene but towards the end of the allotted time elvis took out his guitar and launched into a nineteen forty-six blues number. That's all right. Phillips quickly cle- began taping this was exactly the sound he had been looking for. He believed that elvis had a unique voice and talent that teens would love three eight days later. Popular memphis deejay dewey phillips played. That's all right on his red. Hot and blue show listeners began phoning in eager to find find out who the singer was the song was so popular they played the record repeatedly for the remainder of the show and even interviewed elvis on air afterward. Sam philip had elvis recorded bluegrass number blue moon of kentucky again in a distinctive style and employing jury rigged echo effect that he dubbed slap back a single was pressed with that's all right on the a side and blue moon of kentucky on the reverse elvis would play his first. I gig on july seventeenth at the bon air club sporting his child size guitar at the end of the month he appeared with his band at the overton park shell aw was slim whitman headlining a combination of a strong response to rhythm and nervousness at playing before a large crowd led elvis to shake his legs success. He performed his wide cut pants emphasized as movements causing young women in the audience to start screaming next elvis this would make his first tv appearance on louisiana hayride in november nineteen fifty four by early nineteen fifty-five presley's regular hayride appearances constant touring and well received second releases made him a regional star from tennessee to west texas elvis's new found fame. Wjm captured the attention of colonel. Tom parker who was considered the best promoter in the music business. Having successfully managed top country star eddie arnold parker was working with a new number one country singer hank snow and booked elvis on snow's february tour elvis's sound would become known as rockabilly a billy and would be billed as the king of western bop the hillbilly cat and the memphis flash soon several record companies were interested and giving elvis a record deal after three major labels made offers of up to twenty five thousand dollars. Colonel parker struck a deal with r._c._a. Records to acquire elvis's sun contract for a sum of forty thousand dollars however elvis at twenty was still a minor so his father signed the record contract contract for him under colonel parker's guidance elvis shot to stardom his first single for r._c._a. Heartbreak hotel released in nineteen fifty-six six became his first number one hit song and sold more than one million copies his debut album elvis presley topped billboard's pop album chart and he even made his first big screen debut in love me tender by early summer colonel parker cut a deal for elvis to make three appearances this on the ed sullivan show for a fee of fifty thousand dollars although sullivan previously had said he wouldn't book the singer on his family oriented atv variety show he relented after competitor. Steve allen featured elvis on a show in july nineteen fifty six and beat sullivan in the ratings when elvis appeared on his show on september ninth nineteen fifty six sixty million people more than eighty percent of the t._v. Viewing audience tuned tuned in after elvis made his second sullivan appearance in october crowds in nashville in saint louis were outraged by his sexy performance and protested did that rock and roll music would corrupt america's teams after every new t._v. Appearance the fans response at elvis's live shows became increasingly fevered he would start the show with you ain't nothing but a hound dog and the fans would start screaming by the end of each show he would nearly cause a riot every single time but elvis's new found fame was a double edged sword and he was not accustomed to intense energy focused on him by his new fan following. When he came off stage the singer would sometimes faint or his nose would bleed after a show because his body was so overwhelmed by the enthusiastic dick reception as his career took off. Elvis still remained close with this mother calling her every night. They were so close that they even had a psychic connection knowing what was going on with the other without even communicating one time. Elvis called his mother after his tour bus caught fire. She immediately picked up the phone asking what happened when he asked her what she meant. She said the fire fire. I dreamed of you in fire. Elvis year would end with a front page story in the wall street journal reporting that his concert merchandise brought in over twenty two million dollars on top of his record sales and billboards declaration that he had placed more songs in the top one hundred than any other artist in his first full year at r._c._a. One of the music industry's largest record labels elvis had accounted for over fifty percent of the music sales elvis who is now flush with cash which shell out one hundred and two thousand dollars to buy his first house graceland a memphis mansion on nearly fourteen makers. The stately home was built in nineteen thirty nine by dr thomas moore and his wife ruth on land that was once part of a five hundred acre farm dubbed graceland in honor of the original owner's daughter. He bought the estate in hopes. It would make his mom happy to elvis. Graceland graceland was the culmination of his dreams a public showcase of just how far he'd calm and how blessed his life was but unfortunately for his mom gladys it became a place of illness isolation and depression elvis would make his final appearance on ed sullivan in january nineteen fifty seven then and this time network censors demanded he be filmed from the waist up two days later fate would step in and the memphis draft board announced that elvis this would be classified one a would probably be drafted sometime that year on march twenty fourth nineteen fifty eight elvis was drafted into the u._s. military but received a short deferment so he could wrap up production on his film king creole however when elvis finally left for the army life would take a deadly emotional turn for his mother mother gladys when she learned her son would be posted to germany. She wasn't well enough to travel and she feared he might be hurt. In the war by at this point her health was deteriorating and elvis tried his best to keep his mother comfortable when he was posted in texas for army training. He rented a home for his family family nearby so they could visit him but by august nineteen fifty-eight gladys was back in memphis in the hospital and near death elvis would be granted added emergency leave to visit his mom one last time and say goodbye on august fourteenth nineteen fifty-eight gladys would pass away at age forty six of acute hepatitis and severe liver damage <music> devastated by the loss of his mother. Elvis was shipped out for assignment to the third armored division in friedberg west germany where he served as the jeep driver while in germany he lived off base with his father and grandmother it was also during this time elvis would meet fourteen year old priscilla boy boy you whose father was an officer in the air force and was hanging around the eagles club when she was spotted by curry grant the club's assistant manager she wanted to meet elvis and curry was happy to set that up after meeting the beautiful teenager elvis invited to a party but her parents initially he said no elvis was infatuated with priscilla was determined to winter parents over so he showed up at their home in full uniform to ask if he could escort her to the party alvis arrived decked out in white gloves hat everything and wanted to impress her parents he immediately one priscilla's parents over and they talked for an hour and a half despite the age difference the two had an undeniable connection and they both were smitten mm-hmm elvis born under the zodiac sign of capricorn loved the idea of being her knight in shining armor and protector priscilla a gemini and although so young she was flirty and fun to be with they both had sun trying neptune and they shared a romantic view of life and of each other he was of of course her idol but there were dark karmic aspects to the relationship as well elvis had a more traditional view romantic relationships priscilla had a fiery are- aspect to her personality and an independent streak this difficult aspect would later lead to clashes between the two but for now they were in love elvis was discharged from the military and return home in nineteen sixty but he kept in contact by phone with priscilla and three years later her while still in high school. She moved to graceland <music> for priscilla. Following elvis's footsteps was easy in the beginning but her new life with her famous sweetheart wasn't always so blissful life was is lonely for the young teenager and his manager colonel parker didn't really want elvis to have a steady girlfriend he wanted his fans to think he was still available and it hurt and upset priscilla but after seven years of courtship elvis proposed to priscilla right before she turned twenty one the couple married on on may first nineteen sixty seven surrounded by friends and family and the wedding took place at the aladdin hotel in las vegas making it the wedding event of the year on the outside the appeared to be a fairytale couple about to embark on their happily ever after however behind closed doors. Priscilla was often often left alone while elvis company with other women priscilla quickly became pregnant and on february first nineteen sixty eight the couple welcome their only daughter lisa marie an aquarius priscilla would later tell family how elvis was a nervous wreck when she went into labor and even drove them to the wrong. Hospital elvis was an amazing father and he absolutely adored his little girl a typical capricorn father stern but fair and always supportive she was the apple of zai and he felt blessed to be her dad. However priscilla was another story and the king continued to struggle duggal to stay committed to his marriage and his wife from nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy-three priscilla desperate to keep her husband's affection mm width through great lengths to maintain what she called a mystique in the marriage. She would never let elvis see her without makeup or while she was getting ready. She even tried to turn a blind eye to his many affairs. Although elvis was the love of her life after six years of marriage she became restless and tired of living his rock and roll lifestyle at the age of twenty seven she decided to split from elvis for this very reason she was restless and wanted to find out what the world had to offer the couple separated on february twenty third nineteen seventy two and filed for legal separation on july twenty six <music> despite the pending divorce the two decided to remain good friends for the sake of their daughter daughter lisa marie six months after priscilla left elvis began dating beauty queen linda thompson who was virgin just like priscilla when they met linda thompson also a gemini shared elvis's religious beliefs and passion for gospel music she had vibrant personality and knew how to lift his spirits when he was feeling blue elvis who hated being alone had linda moved into graceland in august nineteen seventy-two even before his divorce was final. Oh linda remained loyal girlfriend for over four and a half years. Eventually the relationship fell apart just like his marriage to priscilla due to elvis constant drug use an infidelities. Linda would later state in an interview. There were times when he was very very difficult. There was a lot of heartache aac and he exhibited a lot of self destructive behavior which was very difficult for me. You know watching someone. I love so much destroy himself in november nineteen seventy six. Linda left elvis and one month later he began dating ginger alden a stunning actress and model who looked very similar similar to priscilla together. They had an incredible sexual chemistry with venus conduct marzan libra and appeared to be emotionally compatible however their romance would be short-lived when several months later elvis is life would take a deadly turn <music> <music> elvis health issues worsened as he became depressed after divorcing forced priscilla in nineteen seventy three still his ex wife continue to be a big part of his life and the two state friendly even after the divorce whenever elvis was having a bad day or was down priscilla would always take his calls and she would immediately lift his spirits. Every time they spoke by early nineteen seventy seven elvis had become a virtual recluse at graceland and would take solace in the spiritual books given to him by his good friend larry geller he was on a quest to find answers to the meaning of life and was haunted by the fact that his surviving twin jesse was stillborn one day eh he opened up to larry and shared a dream he had about his brother. He said you won't believe the dream. I just had man it was so real oh. I can't remember dreaming about my brother jesse. Since i was a little kid there we were together on stage. It seemed like thousands of people were in the audience audience and they were screaming at us. It was wild. We were just like wearing identical white jumpsuits and we were both playing matching guitar slung around around our shoulders. There were two blue spotlights when shining on him one on me and i kept looking at him and man he was spitting image of me. I'll tell you something else. He had a way better than me. <music> ellis was a profoundly religious man always searching for answers while remaining curious about other mystical rooms he even believe strongly numerology college and the science of numbers elvis had the life passed number nine vibration and he was a natural light worker who symbolizes faith and spiritual enlightenment and he was someone who was kind and understanding and represented universal love of humanity and patients his friend and spiritual ritual advisor larry geller would say from the moment we first met. I knew elvis had a spiritual quality. I had never seen so much power in one person and the effect he had on people was tremendous. He could silence an entire room. Full of people just by walking in it wasn't just his fame that caused that it was his horror of power however later in his life when elvis began his fall from grace he no longer had real control over his life or circumstances mm stances the singer was surrounded by those who claim to love him but would use them for money and tried to drain him of his power. These circumstances would soon play deadly wrong in the tragic days at leyte ahead for singer that august a couple of weeks before his tour this call stepmother sobbing and with teller. I'm in terrible pain. It was a cry for help not presley who was married to his father. Vernon from nineteen sixty at the height of elvis is starting until nineteen seventy four when they divorced had remained close close to the king and was genuinely concerned. She asked him what was wrong and he wanted to know why she didn't visit graceland anymore. He was sad and lonely and he made promise you would see your on his next tour. After their troubling conversation de warned her ex husband vernon that she felt something terrible terrible was going to happen to one of her boys or elvis. She had an intense feeling that tragedy was looming just around the corner and she was right on the afternoon of monday. August fifteenth elvis woke at four p._m. And spent the evening playing with his daughter lisa marie and watching tv later that evening he would leave graceland around eleven pm to visit his dentist he would later return to graceland in the early morning hours of august sixteen and he would take care of last minute details. He was scheduled to fly to portland portland maine that night and do a show there on the seventeenth at two thirty a._m. Elvis called his doctor task for painkillers. Supposedly for the tooth pain mm-hmm ricky stanley elvis's stepbrother would pick up the pills from an all night pharmacy at baptist memorial hospital and give them to the singer to take elvis would retire to master suite at graceland around seven a._m. To rest for his upcoming flight and take another pack of pills before going to sleep however around eight a._m. Still unable to sleep. Elvis had his aunt delta may biggs bring a third packet of pills to take a couple of hours later elvis would head to the bathroom carrying the book frank adams the scientific search for the face of jesus while on his way ginger would warn don't fall asleep in there. Okay i won't would be elvis's last words ginger. It would later wake up at one thirty in the afternoon but elvis wasn't in bed. She called her mother who asked how elvis was but ginger injure had no idea she then got dressed and walked over to elvis's bathroom door to check on. She knocks softly called out elvis's name and she got no answer so she pushed open the door and discovered elvis lying on the floor in his goal pajama bottoms around the bottom of his feet. His face buried in a pool of armand on the thick shag carpet in shock. She called downstairs asking asking for help thinking he had fallen over and hit his head. I'll strada would call the paramedics and elvis was then rushed to the baptist memorial hospital and after attempts to revive him failed elvis the king of rock and rule would be pronounced dead at three thirty pm on august sixteenth nineteen seventy seven <music> <music> after elvis died side priscilla found out the heart breaking news from his road manager. She was with her sister at an appointment when her father called stating joe was desperately trying to get a hold of her her immediately she had thought something had happened to lisa marie who was scheduled to come home that day to get ready for school. She ran every red light to get home as as soon as possible and when she pulled into her driveway she could hear the telephone ringing and ran to answer it. After joe gave her the devastating news she collapsed trying to contemplate how and why elvis was dead and how she and her daughter lisa marie would carry on without him. She felt felt like she had lost everything. Elvis was her mentor her confidante and now he was gone a few hours later priscilla would board a private jet to memphis tests to make funeral plans for her daughter's father and the man she loves so much elvis was embalmed at the memphis funeral home and returned to graceland on august seventeenth nineteen seventy seven were a public viewing of the casket ordered ordered by elvis's father vernon was set up in the four year thousands of fans converged on memphis in the days following his death so many that president carter carter ordered three hundred national guard troops to the area to maintain order. All the city buildings in memphis immediately lowered their flags to half staff. Elvis's funeral was held on august eighteenth and it was a small memorial service attended by his family and friends including co star and margaret james brown and actor george hamilton the service was held in gracelands living room and it lasted for two hours would dale church of christ as pastor c._w. Bradley led the sermon other elvis tour members and bandmates j d sumner and the stamps the statesman's and kathy west moorland perform some of elvis's favourite hymns including heavenly father elvis was buried wearing a white suit and blue shirt and the final burial service service began with a long procession down the street that bore his name a white hearse holding his casket in seventeen white limousines drove to forest hill cemetery cemetery an estimated eighty thousand people lined the streets to wave goodbye and pay their final respects to the singer. They love so much. A small all service was then held in the mausoleum followed by loving words from family and friends elvis's father vernon was the last to pay his respects kissing the coffin and repeating daddy will be with you soon later that day elvis body was laid to rest next to his dear mother gladys us in late august of the same year. A thief attempted to steal the body of elvis as a result both elvis and his mother's remains were relocated to the meditation garden at graceland on october second nineteen seventy seven uh elvis presley's death profoundly affected the music industry and broke the hearts of millions of fans around the world in the days following his funeral. A small group of skeptics claimed that elvis might not have died after all fuelling many conspiracy theories and the belief that perhaps he may have faked his own death over the last forty two years. Many haunting tales of elvis have been told including many people insisting sting they've spotted elvis out and about in nineteen eighty nine three elvis enthusiasts would create the elvis sightings society to monitor these apparent incidents. Some people even claimed he appeared as an extra in the nineteen ninety blockbuster home alone. One of the biggest theories on why elvis may have faked his own death was to escape the mafia gail brewer giorgio the the author of the nineteen eighty-eight bestselling book is elvis alive recalled in an interview with time magazine how she poured through thousands of f._b._i. Documents documents to come to the conclusion that elvis was an american hero who had gone into the witness protection program besides believed sidings ridings skeptics also point to what the insist are slip-ups from elvis is family in media interviews and an apparent name misspelling on the king's kings tombstone as proof of cover up however waste that many of the presley sightings is either wishful thinking on the fans part. Perhaps an elvis impersonator considering google claims there are over eighty five thousand around the world or perhaps there is an even and more compelling mystical explanation dr raymond moody a philosopher psychologist and bestselling author of the book life after life is a leading expert on the afterlife life and researcher on near death experiences in an interview with jeffrey mitch love dr moodie shared his personal conclusions about his research into near death experiences and after interviewing over a thousand people who had had these amazing experiences. He has no doubt that there is a life after death. In july nineteen eighty-nine dr moody released a book titled elvis afterlife in the book he explores elvis's cult-like following and the reasons for fans alleged premonition dreams of his death and psychic experiences is that followed it some of the dream cited in his book concern an imaginary last concert of elvis and which he announces his death or in which the dreamers dreamer solomon his coffin fans tale of operations among those quoted or a clinical psychologist a farmer a truck driver and even a policeman such experiences suggests dr moodie often reflect an unconscious emotional need or unresolved conflict and may have a religious impact on the dreamer. Some of these stories are fantastic like the woman who was convinced. Her son is elvis. Presley reincarnated needed while others. There's an eerie ring of truth like the no nonsense cop who found his son after elvis appeared to him in a dream other amazing stories in the book include. There's an elvis jacket that moves his records that melt and even memorabilia that fall to to the floor dr moody writes about people who had premonitions that elvis would die just hours before his death <music> in a nineteen eighty-seven interview with mccall magazine dr moodie tells the incredible story of georgia cop herald welsh and how the spirit of elvis helped him find his runaway son. The cop believed his son had ran away to los dangerous and just before he left to find him. Welsh had a dream where elvis tells him his son is in a rooming house. Then shows him exactly exactly where it is in los angeles. There was a short street with drug store on the corner and a short order diner across from elvis. Elvis kept trying to point out things to me so i would recognize them. Welsh tells dr moody about the dream welsh left for los angeles and began searching the streets in an area populated by runaways on march ninth. He was driving down a street and noticed a drugstore and hamburger stand dan across from it exactly where elvis had pointed out in his dream. Welsh walked up to the three old houses that were also in his dream and knocked on the the door much to his surprise. The old woman who answered told him his son was there once united welsh says his son a big elvis fan told him he twice dream that elvis told him his father would come find him and take him home. Even dr moodie was baffled appaled by welch's story stating his story was very impressive to me. He just wasn't the kind of guy who would have had an experience like that. If it wasn't untrue dr moodie anna's interview says most of the psychic tales particularly those of elvis visions are similar to those experienced by many many people who have lost a loved one. We would like to think of elvis as an angel watching over us and helping fans in their time of need <music> for elvis's daughter lisa marie it has. It's not been an easy road since her father passed away in a recent closer weekly interview lisa conveyed the fact that her childhood was actually a pretty only one she would often spend time in a room listening to music rather than playing with friends on top of that and most of the photos that were taken over at the time. She simply doesn't look very happy. I was very deep is a kid. She says i had a lot of questions about life was exposed supposed to death very early. I wasn't really a kid that was interested in being materialistic or a celebrity. I was very sorta spiritual at a young age age wanting to know deep dark questions about life very early on even more tragic wish she was only nine years old old when her father died for the next several years both she and priscilla which struggle through the pain lisa marie becoming both introverted and rebellious at the same time on the financial front. Things were pretty rough as well. It seems that when elvis died his will called for his entire estate to the go-to lisa marie when she turned twenty five in the meantime elvis's father vernon presley would manage the estate but after he he passed away in nineteen seventy nine priscilla as lisa's legal guardian began co managing the trust with the national bank of commerce in memphis what they discovered is that the estate was in dire straits and it would be bankrupt in a number of years. It seems that colonel parker who was still deal handling elvis's business affairs was making deals that benefited him far more than it did the estate this resulted in a legal struggle that was settled settled out of court involving payment of two million dollars to the kernel as well as a termination of his involvement in elvis's concerns fortunately lisa marie financial future was saved by her mother who turned out to be very astute in business and saved elvis's fortune by turning graceland into a tourist attraction priscilla. Turn the pending bankruptcy into a one hundred million dollar success story by the time lisa. Marie received her inheritance however financially. She may have had a happy ending but her personal life has been much more troubled following the death of her father lisa. Marie began experimenting with drugs and alcohol at the age of fourteen and dropped out of junior high school. She continued taking drugs for the next three years when her mom a practicing member of scientology saintly marie to the organization's celebrity center rehab facility as well as the apple school in the early years of her time. I was scientology lisa. Marie met musician danny q. and they fell in love. The couple married on october third nineteen eighty-eight. The following year sure she gave birth in nineteen eighty nine to their daughter danielle riley a gem i and in nineteen ninety-two son benjamin storm a libra however however the marriage would be short lived and the couple split six years later like many celebrities lisa marie love life was complicated needed and her choices in love even included her dating and marrying michael jackson in an interview she would later claim that her marriage to the king of pop was israel. Even though many thought it was a publicity stunt the two star crossed lovers found comfort in each other's arms but eventually split after being married carried only two years in nineteen ninety nine. She was briefly engaged to rocker john asaka but that was broken off after she. She met actor nicholas cage at a party. The two of them got married on august tenth. Two thousand to just three months later cage filed for divorce which became finalized in two thousand four lisa explain we had similar backgrounds similar histories in terms of our families being what they were an immediate connection. We were kindred spirits rebellious and just different from other people. I think we just connected on that that front. We were together two years before we got married so it was one of those things when we already had a certain pattern going it was a bit wild and stormy so the hope was marriage would make that more stable make each other feel more secure and it didn't when you get married based on something like that. It's either going to embellish relish the problem or it's going to handle it. In this case it amplified it lisa marie would marry for a fourth time on january twenty second in two thousand six to michael lockwood her guitarist music producer and director two years later she would give birth to fraternal twin join girls in two thousand eight harper vivienne an and finley aaron love however sadly lisa marie has followed in her father's father's famous footsteps and has weathered her own battle with addiction in two thousand fifteen. Her husband claimed lisa marie drug. Use was getting out of control. Aw lisa marie would check herself into rehab and leave her mother priscilla in charge of her twins on june thirteenth twenty sixteen lisa lisa marie would file for divorce from michael lockwood after ten years of marriage currently she is now sober and his left scientology for priscilla presley who's never remarried the memory of her ex-husband elvis elvis and the father of her child lives on she recently said in an interview that revisiting his old records can produce mixed emotions but she's most most comfortable when working on projects. She knows he would like and she feels. She's being guided by his spirit on a daily basis. She says when i go to graceland i can walk in the door and see elvis walking down the stairs. I can hear his laughter. I can hear the music playing the music room. It's a very surreal feeling rolling but it's not scary. It's beautiful <music> <music> <music> even after his death. I was presley stock into needs to shine bright. He's an icon of sex stardom and rock and roll but doc beneath the hollywood fame brita sensitive so who'd read the bible every day onto deeply curious about life's mysteries six months before elvis passed away the singer would have a conversation with a spiritual advisor larry geller and would tell him larry my life's on the line and i know it. I've been in hiding from the true for too long. There are too many people around me that i've outgrown elvis told his dear friend he wanted to go on a one year hawaiian retreat and stop taking pills else read meditate and get healthy. The same wanted to new life and to continue exploring his spiritual truth. If you days before elvis died larry would stop by the store bodey tree to buy three books for the singer and give them to him the day before he died. One of the books was the scientific search for the face of jesus by frank adams and it will be the last words elvis would read before he passed away in the end over is believed thank god wanted him to uses light to uplift people and that he did he struck a chord in all of our hearts that continues to play to this day through his words <music> <music> <music> death by misadventure was produced by cosmic media and written by me j._c. Nova are supernatural team of co hosts includes the talented eduardo fahey in london. Tom drei <unk> our master numerology and paranormal investigator in l._a. Paul robinson match i and musician in marin and myself. I'm a psychic astrologer and paranormal investigator in los angeles and san francisco. 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Superstitious Minds - Paranormal Elvis
"Recall the thunder rock and roll and it's Friday lesser over to Kagan and the patented Texas again. Somebody asked if I really got learned from spider and a A lobster boobs one is a crusty or busty crustacean gems like that can only come from the to wrap up they're not in this lifetime tour what's going to happen after that new music new album day with Jeff Darty he's from the Christian whistleblower channel on paranormal events evolving Elvis he's share some stories with us from Paranormal Beatles and how he tried to warn the Beatles of the SAM similar dangers in the mid sixties he talks how the king was preparing for a huge comeback and how that might have contributed to the possibility that he all this Jeff Darty right here right now talk to Jericho her would old Berber this is my podcasts studio over the last three weeks and we talk about paranoid on the The supernatural type of vibes as you then suddenly started transitioning into more of the ethereal world shall as a assemblies of God evangelist. You've ever seen leap of faith Steve Martin Kinda like being everything that I've been taught because I realized I didn't know it for myself I just know because I had been there's some things that don't quite add up with the whole church realm and that led me into so we're doing everything from aid izzy on on the spiritual spectrum and I was and we were throwing some ideas around and we kind of settled on it and talking about with Elvis all the other strange coincidences and strange things and ghostly kind of haunting talking about kind of like the the tent revival type preaching where Virginia but I left I was your typical revival preacher I did a lot of ten work on and you know did change some lives but I tell you Chris still I wake up sometimes at night homes I get a knock and white trailer the next morning it's the game warden he says are you Reverend Dr Afc yes thing jewelry yeah absolutely touching somebody on the forehead and they could suddenly walk like for example and you don't have to go into it as much but I had a friend of mine that was a that was a cop a policeman there were quotas every month you have to get out I don't know hundred tickets and at the bake it anymore it's not what I signed up for is this similar to what you were talking about with this kind of the we saw and if you didn't get the right numbers they would give you a call but what I really saw the time they're born and they have salvation and that they've got the only savior these churches in your free and that's what I try to do is bring people to a place where they can reevaluate and read faith-based as well from what we always thing but let's kind of delve Elvis loved Gospel Quartet Gospel Music Little Kid loved Gospel Court de Orleans around well when Elvis started getting big they started meeting each other backstage also got drafted so from that day literally until the day Elvis die they were fast sex we've been best friends and he became the Best Elvis impersonator out there J D Sumner who was Elvis's saint live backup singer leader. Jd somewhere in the stamps yeah the The sixty eight on Scotty Moore's the famous fifties jailhouse at one time similar to what I met when I came on the bus band guys yeah exactly athleticism so by Osmosis I've known these guys for years and I got to be the fly on the wall listening to better than meeting Elvis because I get the real insights one obviously you know we're yeah because if if you're talking about the most famous person on earth of all time from an entertainment standpoint see Elvis and m j are the two most merchandised it was it was really weird to be Elvis Elvis never was a celebrity elvis would see a person in need he'd take off a big huge diamond ring and give them all the money in their a he truly loved People Chris Love People never was a celebrity always office and the thing interesting is if you ever see somebody like you know look at that guy over zero in D Milenko and Chris Benoit's car and we'd been drinking after the show at Eddie when he got late dude you can't you just pissed the game who'd he ever be Geico was undoubtedly the greatest wrestler of all time and I have to agree with that I appreciate that they so but something where Elvis went to buy a Cadillac and then owner was really it was a black lady and she was in charge of cleaning up the place and he's like don't you know called her you S. car was this is this your best Couto yes sir this is my very best Cadillac on the whole lot you're sure this one's aw see that sort of stuff is cool because people forget I mean you're talking about Elvis towards stories about Elvis there weren't any the worst story is he was a through the ladies how many chicks could you probably get Elvis Presley the call a lot of money throughout his whole life well elvis grew up they literally got thrown out of today and they said yes and she says well you get out here with the rest dirt was hitting him in the broom true story true story Gotcha Gotcha so continue so he's with the Memphis Mafia and he mentioned these things so Charlie's room a a playroom and if you go on the Elvis tour a grace on normal elvis part and the part about the pills gets us the payroll elvis part burn was jealous he never had the relationship with his son that Charlie had right after Elvis was dead now Vernon told Charlie Pack Your Shit and get the hell you know all of our closets and the garage and of course we had tons of stuff that we no longer use and selling APP that makes it fast and easy to get rid of almost anything I know you have clothes and shoes more just download the macari APP and you can sell it that's right super easy he just take so meet ups with total strangers no hassles no bargaining The APP is over a half sell remember over one hundred and fifty thousand items listed every day and macari Let McCurry help l. let you can ship it and get paid man Macari you can find macari wherever you download APPs Chari Dot Com let's start with Al This is last mentioned pills Jeff I know you're paranormal background we're having Elvis show up it used something and what happened about the pill there was two things all of us wanted done he was very the families and he just gave it and when Elvis gave a house he gave you the House he paid the taxes everything on the street and Elvis was livid the Elvis Ghosts Oh when I'm sure there's a lot that people don't know about guys in in that arrests were so it's all fake but they don't know ahead debilitating arthritis the doctor had I saw three independent doctors evaluated warm on stage so yes he was on a lot of drugs it was all prescribed but he doesn't didn't want people prince was on all of the the drugs he was because he had very bad feet and heels is heels the West Gate she used to be the Hilton it was the Las Vegas Hilton and that's what they said that they it shows a row but at the seven forty eight shows he did they're all sold out so you obviously was very uh he would say to Charlie says Charlie I can't do it man these people made me they deserve Elba had made plans to fire Colonel Parker he was gonna cut the Memphis then talked him into waiting until after Christmas to fire everybody make these changes glaze suspected analysis passing time with all this stuff that anybody ever find out about it yeah you big I think that Elvis and I wrote a book about it called assault and Aquarius I am K N que altruism mind control protocol things to warp people's mind to control to control them they would do things like Louis Feldman told Paul McCartney that he was under this and to watch out for it and that's really what happened turn lot young man how did the Sony things so many have a handler someone that's close to them a human usually a human someone astral means and there's also pharmacological controls slip so I think was they did it to Ellis's mom they did it to Elvis they did to McCartney they did government and the British government probably with a lot of stuff they picked up in Nazi the FBI is one was chaos and now it's probably para national elvis to do well think about it let's say one thousand nine hundred fifty eight right believing in authority everybody believing in the church and here's Elvis saying you know what you can be Z. have had such great power and he really had people longing for some individuality rebel who's changing the world to this black helmet haired Marionnette getting drafted into the army as well and that was that's actually a really good point Chris and we got now you know what happened Elvis said yes sir saluted he all of a sudden even the MOMS and dads and a deep respect for Elvis Aaron Presley like making everybody feel good we were on the cost believe Chris Jericho of a huge some kind of Melville society why would they not want that era center you need salvation we've got the only savior so you gotta come surge yes no you've had a complete respect for authority and individuality wasn't sex love and rock and roll and it was a a societal Nami was a it's unbelievable leaving Alvis going over to you mentioned McCartney and and there's there's some things about Paul is dead how come Paul's is changed colors and forensic investigators noted changes that could possibly happen into something called Tim horrible torture they would actually phase him in war him across time and I think that's I get to meet Paul on November Twelfth Somewhere my buddy gary all songs with James Burton and I'm GonNa look in his eyes I'm not gonNA ask him is is he dead but I'm GonNa look at his he's written that will come out posthumously that will explain what happened to him really I really believe Elvis asked the Beatles to come to meet him at his house in California sixty it was right around that time they came out of the House of Belair and they were all go in George ended up going out and playing pool with guys and Elvis and they said that Charlie Sat- Sat- McCartney Downton listen man they did some heavy did you boys and it wasn't but a few years after that that you had this huge and Paul was a different guy in people L. Paul stead no he wasn't dead he some videos that he was in maybe we'll get a chance to get you someday but Lenin new will he put them ah a TV show in the UK that Paul was doing and there's a lot to it it's a three hundred page book when when did you emission they got yeah the benefit of watching it happen to Paul so I think John was probably that John Lennon was taken out and I'm not really a Beatles fan that's the weird thing Siam listen to nowhere to run and I listened to burn me out dude the giant Lyrics Janis lyrics are so dark and ominous lose there's some of it is done electronically some of it is done are familiar with what people call option. Yeah you can go into people's dreams Gotcha implant suggestions and plan electronic it's astral its pharmacological and there's also dispirit was angry I wanna know how you guys discovered that and we'll get into some paranormal stories about Elvis does it gives me a detailed weather report how're by our for the city I'm going to for the city right there at a single glance rather readout is set up like a round clock too other coming is perfect or cities like Tampa where if you don't like the weather wait five minutes Calgary also as radar displays with our forecast so if the news says it's GonNa Rain I can look at my atmosphere pitcher down to the hour and get a detailed three day forecasts for wherever city you're in so rain that evening which it did even we're outside Beating up Dustin Rhodes the atmosphere exited Charlotte I kind of knew about it I was able to prepare for that because of atmosphere weather you ads but for just three ninety nine a year year that three ninety nine a signed for one year of access it's probably less than the coffee drinking well listen to Jay especially those expensive when you mentioned the Mo Elvis Spirit being pissed off now did Charlie this is really mad so we went up to Graceland we went through the mansion and we got guys type of stuff but he was very very angry and he wanted us and I wrote a book and did a friends wrong talked about wildest was on the drugs and Elvis wanted the you know liberace's sing and balance at the end of his life he was fighting and in seventy firing a tiger Linda Thompson and her and her her brother pursued that a huge career you know after all that would have just been like John Lennon's lost I do it a couple of different ways I believe it or not used divining rods and believe in high eighty percent accuracy is viewing shows here as well all this but I'm very confident that we're in a deep contact with it's nice all it's not take away then let it stand so the and I have to say the folks that Elvis Presley enterprises remove you're the famous you're thinking of Yuri Geller is that Ray all remember their names but I it's when you mentioned did all right we're probably going to show with Linda Thompson here very soon Thompson and she she said that living with Elvis was a nice abnormal life so you're mentioning kind of these like I said there's there's so many things involved Chris I'm almost at the point now where I'm sure I'm almost certain again I'm in the middle of another book and have done kill the sixty s I know that's a crazy statement I think I have a lot of data to back it up and guessing on once upon a time in Hollywood he's Geller and once talked about earlier coincidentally Larry Geller cut Elvis's air so Larry Geller just say Larry the more of us that die Larry Stories get better because there's no one left wondering about Larry I'm trying to find out if he cut McCartney's here if he cut McCartney's Air Tate House two three days before the quote unquote murders the new ties to Tate's dad who was definitely naval intelligence listen if he's if he kept Paul's Air I got him Chris so production I don't think anybody was killed I really improve that and you drugs rock and Roll Anti Government Anti War hippie movement in one fell swoop we realized and we're divine where sovereign were free and we're GonNa get this thing rolling man action hero and all this sort of thing so what do you happen to to Tate and Polanski and South America after they were allegedly de deep does the Congo that's the eternal question how deep does it really we're getting out of it was the matrix still the form of mind control now you know I'm a slave to the Judas in my mind the Judas of course was much of the gods then why are we you know bowing the need to aren't we rising up and a lot of people save a why won't God do something well except this bill to see it well you know I've I've a youtube channel the Christian whistle blower got my talent there's something is is catching hold and I think people are really starting Martian to come in and it's time to start swimming out meeting that damn thing so when we get the DVD py now app on my phone just open it pick a workout use the standup I liked that a veterans day that's right a DP wide dot com all of the DWI workouts EP Wide Dot Com. I'm on a like Dallas right now after that cowardly attack a few weeks house page you can do it to start today and remember if you are or have served in the US you know covered and of course in in a very You know punchy type of fashion because we were was you know kind of shut down as a as a changing social force and went and did those movies he goes you know becomes liberace with those crazy suits and singing ballads and then are of course ended up dying how was he able to fight out of you know like the great ones and they weren't great Chris but the thing people don't know as he was by so they were stacking money with those movies hits will they you know as I watch Chris the easier it is for me to believe you know we mentioned the Mike Control that led him there but what what was there somebody that was like a and we talked about the M. K. Ultra mind control the different phases of and it was hard Koran and I really think purpose effing Presley why are you doing this get out there and be the ban as you are forgotten about his movie career and how that basically took him out of circulation then but I was just talking it was and you could see how it was you know if you were gonNA try to knock Elvis out ad was the generation of always just hung and then they he showed up who he really was and he converted movies that did actually big ellison love me tender loving you jailhouse rock king right a hit song and what the movie that he'd be okay that was kind of the idea who's put a song out around him and all the western he did Clam Bake he did change of habit he didn't Colonel Parker turned it down that was the last Straw Colonel Barker wanted for murder probably on the Lam for that really I never tell us that story hiring Parker and what what questions you asked me got us to that I was just asking tells the Parker Story Yeah Colonel Parker Ashley to get to the US it died and he was facing manslaughter charges and he could never get a visa at home but could you imagine how huge that would have been seventy eight elvis in but he couldn't because the parker here
Pamela Des Barres' Pajama Party with DeeDee Keel
"Hi this is Tony Gocha in. You're listening to Pantheon podcasts. Welcome to Pamela debars Jamma Party. A Pantheon podcast. Music Culture! Conversation remand. And good old fashioned rock and roll. So now. I give you. Miss Bam law and her JEMMA party. Hello Dolls you are listening to Pamela Day Bars Pajama Party and you know most of you know. I'm a group beer I used to be a group. Always have a groupie heart. A group is just someone who loves positions and the music they make, and they like to be around the vibe when it's a a regular time in this world I, Do Rock Tours I? Write a column. You can read my column at Please Kill Me Dot. Dot Com and I have many books out of course. I'm writing to more as we speak so I am keeping busy during this oddball time and I'm very proud to be a part of Pantheon podcasts and we are really growing man. Have you heard Pleasant Gamons? Show Whoa, you better check it out and we are on all platforms. You can find us anywhere and so listen to our podcast. Please tell your friends okay. I would love that. Stop. And today's show is pretty special. All my shows especially, but today I have a DVD Keel joining me. She is a was a notorious, wild groupie and proud of it. She's totally unabashed and her stories are incredible. She is in my book. Let's spend the night together which is about a whole bunch of groupies and all their fabulous exploits, so we're GonNa talk to her right. Subway. Well. Hi Sweetheart. Thank, you for coming out so far. I am thrilled to be near you or Anything for you. Oh, honey, that is so sweet. Well, you're. You're chapter in my book. Let's spend the night together. And he had no idea. I was a chapter until I opened the book you didn't. I was GONNA. Say a couple of things I mean. I thought there'd be a little something something in there. And then somebody handed me the book and said maybe you'd better look and. She has her absolutely your own chapter. And what did I call? It oh. Yeah, Hey, little girl! You WanNa come on the bus that that was for Keith Richards. Ask you that. That you know looking back, I think it might have been Bill Wyman, but But I was so stunned that it even happened and I couldn't remember. That is such a cool story. We're going to get to that. But I'm gonna read a little tiny piece out of here because. I'M GONNA. Give people a little idea of why I wanted you to come on the show, okay? Lucky for me, it's a small rock world. We live in. When she heard DD hurt, I was working on a book about Groupie history. She contacted me through my website. This is her response to my email, asking whom she had groupie with. Here go. She said Jeff Beck Cozy Powell Chick Churchill David Cassidy the entire holly's band Ian Paice Keith Hartley Johnny. Almond Tony Stevens traveled with fog, hat and Humble Pie Peter Grant. Yes, I went big I was I was like Whoa. Can't you hear about that? Leave from Chicago. Many many roadies I didn't mind if I got to hang with the band's iggy and the stooges I married. The light man lived with Egg van Halen Motley crue rat married bronchial and toured the world with many famous bands. Tiring just hearing. Yup I called her instantly and after a few minutes on the phone. I knew she had to ever own chapter. So that is D D in my booklet, spend the night together and the re- The way. This happened really is Aaron and I were talking about the. Whiskey Gogo she's. She said I need some I'd love to get some history on the whiskey. It's such an important venue. Historical place and I went well I. Know just the person to talk about that so. So here you are well in the history seems to be changing a bit as the people that remain began to tell the stories so I'm I'm really happy to talk about it. To for me to set the record a little more straight than it's starting to curve, do good because as we maybe all know by now. The Magli every family now owns the whiskey this, but it was started by Elmer Valentine. Yes, and you were his assistant for dozen years right? I was there from seventy one to eighty three. What a great run by his side and and so I have a lot of lot of love and And respect for him and I hate to see his history just disappearing but the people that are telling the stories in the Magloire family. Just don't know that's part of the problem. Okay, because the the young people run, it now ride, the younger the grandchildren Ashley I know so. How would they know unless? They heard it from Mario he had some great Mario Magli Larry and Elmer. Valentine were partners in the whiskey. A go go right. Part partners not to begin with okay well. It's okay if you know the history, let's hear it. Initially. It was elmer's idea and elmer was the sole owner. Mario was the right hand man. He really ran the place. The interesting thing was because he was out on the street. He became the face Thri whiskey which a lot of people misinterpreted it as being the owner I see well. I always knew I always thought it was co owned by both of them but I was very tight with Mario. He was much more like you said the face and he he loved pretty girls that he was always very good, though with them. Akzo bad stories about Mario Man. He was very happy with his wife scarlet, and but he he loved pretty. Girls loved him to come into the club because he did a lot of people would buy US drinks, and we get people on the dance floor, so I never had to pay to get in there. And that that's exactly what happened. When I li- began hanging out in front of the whiskey when I was fourteen, I did school go see the young rascals up there. Wasn't old enough to get in. But when I arrived there and saw those big red letters was like a beacon I at all. My God I could hang out here and see the just see him load in and out. Yeah, exactly I began to hang out there what and when I was nineteen, so maybe nine hundred sixty eight a good childhood. High, School Fran got a job in the box office I got to go in free. Is that Charlotte down was happy. She still works at the Roxy that is in. Credit I bet she's got some stories to yeah. She and I were there. A lot of them are real big on telling stories and her memory isn't the best Sushi on me a lot, but okay. clear-headed, good memory so I. Will You know I'm sure reminder of different things? Yeah, but she was the reason that I ended up getting to go. In the first place, we went together. And It was about nineteen. Sixty nine, when elmer head I was a new girl in town, a lot of attention I was gathering because there were regulars. Yeah, so he asked one night. You know who's that girl and and I got introduced, and then he said Hey. Would you like to answer phones for a couple of weeks? I look for a secretary. I said Heck Yeah Oh. My God used to be in that hallowed space. I mean you got all the stories even in the book that you've told well. Moore and Elroy said you know what's beautiful about you. You have no idea how powerful you are. I know you're just having fun absolutely. Yeah, wait every week for that. The new album releases to be sent in. Spread them out on the table and the girls and I would look around and go. Fuck. He's mine. He's mine. Yeah, so so, how did you I mean so early on? Who who were you attracted to as a as a young team? One, of course, the Beatles and the rolling stones dot got me going, and then I you know kind of branched out from there I. I totally went to the stones when I began to be pretty rebellious. Teen and so tell us about the stones concert I think we're both at the concert in Long Beach Right I actually got to see them three times because they performed at the Tammy show at the Santa. Monica Civic Oh. You've got to go to that. which was freed all the local schools? We got free tickets. So I did I went to that. My parents dropped me off. This was the first time my parents realized that I was going to be a handful. Dropped me off for the free concert and I got right up front. I thought I was going to die waiting for Jan and dean to go through. Everybody's coming on her finally. The stuff I've stood through James Brown, which looking back. I'm thinking that was how. I'm appreciating it, but you know when you're when you're when you're waiting for mic you when you're fourteen and you're waiting for the stones. Yeah, it didn't seem like a lot, but. I I can relive it perfectly. But at any rate. I crawled under the back curtain towards the end, and got in there and got tossed out, grabbed up a cigarette, but That is so great. Heck down away the so similar to what I did. When when they were staying at the Ambassador Hotel I tried to go meet them. You know and I made a fool of myself. I was a kid. I was fifteen sixteen actually at that time. But I did the same thing after they left town I went through all the trash cans that had been emptied out, and I have a piece of Brian Jones hair, and I I I found out how old Bill Wyman actually was boy. He was old then. Yes, I mean. He was much older than the rest of the band. He had torn up a copy of his passport. Together so I did the very same kind of things I save those kinds of cigarette, butts, Napkins, and things like that young young pre groupie girls, so I got in trouble because I followed the band and realize they were staying at the surfrider in Red Cross street from the Santa Monica Civic. Win In there by the pool, but when my mom and dad came to find me I got in trouble, said Oh no, she went over to the hotel thought hotels. Okay, they stay here. That's incredible. That was pre. That was like a year before they came back and played the Long Beach Arena right well. Yeah, what Ha! What happened after that? Zayed already gone I took a early morning bus up to Wallich's music city to stand in line for the tickets to. It was actually the Long Beach. Auditorium. Okay yes, we did. It doesn't exist anymore. Oh, I used to go well. I went there with the captain. Be Far. Oh, it was. Phenomenal venue I thought and I remember it. Venue, but on the floor they had the folding chairs wasn't yes seeding. I got up early in the morning. Run bus up to get my ticket my three dollar ticket and there was nobody there, but one girl. One girl I thought okay well. I got my ticket went home, and then my dad drove me to the concert. What good parents you had team! Tell Stack. Yeah, you know parents a- from our era. Just had no idea what was going on. It was unprecedented. What we're about to enter into that you know the hippie movement in the peace and love and all that stuff. No one stood it yet what it might do you know what that might lead to for you. Right right well. I still have the support of my family. They act actually. Think I have a glorious history. Will you do honey? I was a little embarrassed of it to begin with, but as it's creeping out into the world. Doesn't seem like you'd never be embarrassed about it just to bet. But you, but you are unabashed. You talk about it. You I mean this came out. What two thousand eight! You were still you were happy to discuss all your evaluates what happened was we took a family trip to Seattle just after the release of? Let's spend the night. On my sister, who's a retired dentist? It's pretty. Pretty Straight. She wandered into Barnes and noble and found that. And she bought it. It went back to the hotel and devoured it and she went. Oh My. IDEA! Oh yeah, and you have six kids right and they're do. She has six kids. That in itself is several books I have one kid I don't know how you did it. Man Six grandchildren now. MAZING as. Twelve wonders. going. Through it. And you know you and I are a lot alike in our. Optimism we had a lot of joyous optimism I. Do Yeah I. Do I'm a peacemaker. Love maker I can see the beauty and. Even maybe the beauty of my embarrassment, a bit of revealing my little secrets. Well, we're GONNA for after the stones concert. Did you tell me? Did you meet them at Long Beach Arena? I did not what happened after that was. They played the La Sports arena sixty five. Okay, so sixty four. I did the Tammy show I did the Long Beach Monitory Leash. You crawled under the curtains I would not have had the over his to do that. Well I try to crawl into the backstage area of the a Long Beach Auditorium is really was really old. Building and I ended up crawling through a bathroom window, but then I couldn't get out. Never made it that far. Back into my seat. the, seats were the were the folding seat. Yeah, type not fixed seats so. We all stood up, but then people. We're going right through the slats. Getting their legs stuck, so I realized if I start walking forward on the seat, so I got to the front. Pretty crazy. I I was getting a little tricks going as I went along so by the time I went to decided, I wanted to go to the Long Beach Sports Arena. They're getting quite famous at that point. Always had a little bit of magic touch and I'm. Talking to some girls school in it turns out. This one girl's dad was the manager of the arena. Fantastic I said. Let's go see the rolling stones and so they took me fantastic. First taste of front row sees yeah and getting really. And then we had to wait around while they closed a cleared out and close the arena She and I were scouring through all of the trinkets that were tossed up on stage. The Teddy bears and the. Panties Act, he's ever ause right whipping bras off through stage I. Remember that so vivid. Show too yes, and just amazing stuff going on. It was President Fun. I mean I don't think. People took their panties and bras off for Elvis or Frank Sinatra. And threw him on stage. I don't think so. They might have wanted to I. Think it's funny now I see girls go to certain concerts and bring their extra raw. That is not the same. Anyway that particular night after the arena cleared, we had to come into the backstage area. Wait for him to get everything locked up and closed out and all of a sudden. This giant hangar opens incomes. This like this giants star of this huge tour bus and I went. Oh, what is bad? What is that? But then out of a tunnel comes this man leading the band? Oh, I was just cemented to the ground in awe. Rush. In there. They were and worry fifteen time. Yeah, I would have been just going to be fifteen. I'm pretty sure it was Bill Wyman I? Think I wanted it to be Keith so in love with Keith this. Little Girl WanNa come on the bus, and I was so ready. We were grabbed by the shoulder and lead in another direction. Yeah, but I realized. These guys were real. Yeah, and John where they were. Yeah right there especially if they asked you to come on the bow. Always wanted to know what was on tour best after that I couldn't wait to get on a tour bus. DidN'T BILL WYMAN wind up marrying some incredibly young person afterwards I think he did some young young girl real young thirteen I. Think I adored him, so it's not surprising, wanted you to? Know. One one was the oldest stone by far shame shame. Yeah that was really fun. Time I ever saw them, but I do have my tour book from that that particular show. How I bet that's worth the bundle. It's Gorgeous I. Look at it quite often i. still have all my ticket stubs from the stuck into my diaries. That's Fisher. Save any of those nine lost a lot of things along the way and just have a handful, but the handful I have are pretty and special to me. Did You keep diaries? I did not. It's amazing. Your memory is so vivid then. I have a good memory. Do I always have and and I was at a lot of clarity because I didn't. I never took drugs or did a lot of drinking so. Never took drugs now that is. Incredible thing to be proud of I. Think I can't say that's my. My grandfather and his sister were pharmacists I was raised really just running around in the pharmacies. They had four pharmacies in La. Wow and you'd never wanted to tamper with any. He taught me never to take anything unless you absolutely needed. And he taught me all about the chemistry and. Now so I. Always Listen to very why. Credit Smart, man. So I know, you wound up hanging out with the rascals. Did that happen when you had that? Big Crush on an early days at the whiskey was later. That the first day that I went to the whiskey, they were loading in out of course, but they walked just a couple of blocks to tell. and. We followed them. And that was when I realized. Okay here it is hotel again. This could wear. This could work. and they were very sweet. They allowed us to come in, but the kept the door open. Oh my girlfriend and I became a I would think at the time. Maybe they thought we were stockers quite annoying. We began to Find out when they were coming into town. Show up at the air. We call the airline and ask for their. Do you have that them on the flight? We give him by the names, and they tell us when we show of in my Lord and then I found a a phone book depot in near Venice my hometown Venice. We could go in and look at all the phone books. Yeah, after school I went in and found the New York. City. Phone Book. Scar found Dino Dinelli. He was cute killing him. They could imagine how. It was really cool. So they came back into town state at the same motel. And I got the idea that I. Call and leave a message for gene. Cornish and I chose gene because. He to me, he was probably the least popular, and maybe maybe it was easier. Goto yes very clever. He called me back. He said he called me back and I was at home, and my parents home, and I remember going I'm so nervous. He said this is gene cornish. I said Oh. Do you need me to call you back? Because I knew there won't felons in the room and he literally said I've got a nickel A. But he invited me up. Why don't you come on over? I do knock knock knock you open the door. Here's a fourteen year old. disappointed. He was so disappointed Yeah, well, that's just takes so much courage to do that. And there was no g word yet. The groupie were didn't even exist when you doing those now it did. Not long after that, but we were doing this stuff before that word exists absolutely, and we were following, and I was following rascals any possible place. I could towards the end of that whole. Time it was about nine, hundred, sixty eight. They were staying at the century. Plaza Hotel. And and I would just sit in the lobby, waiting, waiting waiting and they'd come, and they'd let us let us up. Even the door propped open. They were Nice Boys. They were they were not rascals at all. Very Nice Guy. and. Did you hook up with eventually the one you're interested in now? My go-to was Felix Cavalieri right at him. My girlfriend Cathy and I we got a little loom and we beated these member. The beaded necklaces that everybody would wear in the. Late sixties and we loomed him in one of them, said love, and the other one said piece, and they actually wore them in a photo in Sixteen magazine then task. When we saw that we were squealing so hard, it was so exciting, and they were just so sweet to assing. To us, who have a photograph of me with Felix at the Century Plaza, win. Photograph taken any so sweet I. I was just in love with that Band I. Love Their Music, the messages that. Come on, people smile on your brother. In case you. No one's aware of that. Day. GROOVING, yeah, real real sweets, good, just good stuff I was so in love with them that I named my first child after Eddie regarding his. Girlfriend Amy Steel Oh. Amy Steel. She tolerated us well. We knock on that door of the hotel and she would answer it. You could tell it was like oh! Again. She was a stunning girl so. My daughter! Amy is named after her. How incredible you know! Also people don't realize a lot of times. The groupies in quotes you know we would just hang out with the band's just to be around this. Even necessarily have sex with them, but we wanted to offer some kind of something I. Would you know take them shopping? I would take him to antique clothing stores very early on and they you know Rod Stewart got his first feather boa there. Some girls took him to Disneyland Yup Yeah Yeah was that you? Know. They, I was bad I took them too bad. That's not bad. That's not bad roused. But I mean sometimes. It wasn't always that it wasn't just. I mean occurs at the age of fourteen. I wasn't. It was just being near them. Being close the essence watching their mannerisms hearing their stories, it was just exciting. They were real. That's how I felt too exactly. That's how I felt going to see the Beatles and the stones. I mean I couldn't fathom that these were real people. Yeah, surely they couldn't be real. They were, and then they are. They're just like just like you. I mean yeah, and it took me a long time to get to that point to where I've felt. kind of equal with them. When I was real young, it was like how how could I reach that pinnacle? Were Dion live, you know. He was my Tina teen idol I I totally know that I remember when I took my job at the whisky thanking. I've done it now. Housing Music. Yeah, well, let's go there then again. So what was your first you know? What did you do it first so Elmar? Weeks answering the phones, but you're there twelve years right? Yeah, because I began hanging out in the at the front of the whiskey. Of course you know years before. Enough to get in fame here this going up there and looking of that marquee to me. It was like going to church. All what goes on inside there. was going to happen that quite like that, but my grandmother was one of the heads of La County Park and recreation. I was in Hollywood. A lot both sets of grandparents lived up there. My grandfather was silent movie star. So you know back then I had grandparents both sets in Hollywood so of course my parents didn't understand why I wanted to go visit granny so much, but I just wanted to get up there. Get out on the streets. Go down to that whiskey ago plays yeah. I stood out there long enough. You know. I got asked to answer phones for a couple of weeks right while elmer. Secretary now that was Gail Zappa was. Before you correct hail sapper was one before me I came in after a girl named Susan Markham. Her yeah. I came after her yeah okay. But Gail had your job. Originally I mean that's just so fantastic. She and elmer very tight for awhile. Absolutely well, that was that was something I mean just to be in. That office was something I didn't know if I'd even laughs, but you know. I went in for two weeks and ended up staying. There were eleven years. While I, was there three kids have? You were his confidant and all of it. Right everything, Yeah! I fetched this groceries I cleaned his house say. Book the band's Out. I was just go to girl for sure I mean. What was I mean? Can you kind of explain how? And you went all the gigs to the ones. You were interested in right, so you there all day and all evening a lot of the time right most of the time. Yeah. In, they're telling me what to book, let's see. With this band minimum here. Yeah, who was your proud proudest moment when book to certain band? Or some of your proudest moments. We did up the Roxie to. Able to bring in of all of acts looking back there just so many of them I. I can't even can't even name just one or two, but. Well, the biggest people on Earth played their biggest people on Earth Zeppelin played there, and then they played the forum. And same with the WHO I saw the WHO the Jimi Hendrix experience at Zeppelin. I mean those are huge acts. In a small club like that. Yeah, so it was so prestigious that the hugest acts would play there before after their giant forum gigs. It was nothing like that I. mean there's no other place like that now. Certainly, in l., A. The whiskey, the whiskey. Has always been in, my opinion iconic. To be able to work, there was amazing. Yeah crazy! Let's let's some whiskey stories. How about is that where you met the holidays? How did I meet the hollies? You've got a good memory. The. Holly's I believe. I met Terry Sylvester in the Whiskey yeah. And I can't quite remember. How I went off with him, but that was. That was definitely where I met him. Okay and Was At the Hyatt House? Where were they? Stay? was so many bands stayed at the Hyatt House no I think it was the sunset marquee. Okay, that was the other sunset marquee will tell us that story. That's a fantastic story. The hitchhiker story. The hitch hike story. I me a little bit. You really want me do yes okay. All right. IDEA. I know it's such a great story. Well, it goes on and on, but I'll read a little bit of it. They all came into the whiskey, and I stood behind the lead singer Terry Sylvester he kept turning around and every time he did I made an awful face, he said. Are you trying to take the Piss out of me? I'd never heard that phrase before and started laughing and he said get over here. Talk to me. It must have been quite a night because once again. Dd Remembers exactly what she was wearing. A little rainbow sweater with hello knitted intuit knee thought that was really cute. At the end of the night Terry S DD for a ride to the hotel, and she sashayed out of the club with her prize while the other girls shot dagger is. Now that now. You're the envy of of a lot of your a lot of the girls there, right? I was, but I think only because I had the courage. Yeah, yes, you did I i. kind of I learned right away that you need to go for what you want. Yeah! You went for it I did. An okay. Kevin skip a little bit, but he's when when you got to the hotel. You said he said look what I could. I brought home. Two boys and I did my famous. Let's take a bath boys. Okay. You want to explain that to us. It was funny because I think I I discovered that a lot of the group groupies had their little Fang everybody's got their thing. I didn't know what my thing was going to be. Pretty funny what you came up with later. Yeah! Yeah, that that seemed to be a good way to get the clothes off of them. And did they all go for it absolutely? Will, they would've been fools. not to write is fine. Was All in good fun? But some of this I mean. Is just outrageous. They all Basque, indeed these large s except for Cutie Pie Tony Hicks who stayed in front of the TV? He was a little tisco about the whole thing while the rest of us had a good time. Afterward he frowned and said well. What are you going to do with me? I got down on the floor in front of him, and they all gathered round to watch. After hearing about Cynthia Plaster Casters Unique Way with the Dick D. had been trying to come up with their own sexy Gimmick Ueli here. This guy's sexy gimmick okay. She has terry to go to the Fridge and get some ice cubes. I was GONNA put them in my mouth and give him head with them. I wanted to be called. The is princess, but it never took off. I could see why right yeah the you didn't mention. He came back with Oh. Tell us. All they had in. There was a carton of yogurt. Okay. And what happened? Shall I, read all right. I poured up the yogurt and gave him head. Came over and I looked the yogurt off him. From that minute on the adored me. The band made a date with me every night that week. Created Little Games this. This is the one I was talking about. One of them was, we'll pull up in front of the Whiskey, and you'll be wearing just a trench coat, stockings and heels and pretend you're hitchhiking and don't know us. Yup and did you flash the BOYS YOU BET? Not, many people can tell a story like that. And you know it was was so much freedom back then there was so much. Openness you know there was a it was early in the pre. Love Time right I mean it was. It, really was and you and we were women very early on expressing ourselves in this way. Right. Yeah, there was a lot of judgment. You know that we had to wade through about. People think in I was called submissive of all things. You know for doing exactly what I wanted to do with these people. Right the eighth or any of that I went well initially. I couldn't even get up to the whiskey. My parents had to approve it. Yeah, I was hanging out there, but I wasn't able to really go to work. In the Office, Oh, so my dad had to do what he called researching to make sure it was okay. Well, it was a legitimate business. Well he ended up he. He ended up getting the approval from the sheriff's department. How? Interesting, they said that was a totally safe wonderful place. They were monitoring it regularly. Well you know they've really knew how to handle that Business Mario and Olmert together. What do they did absolutely and and they seem to work real well together I mean. Elmer was much more. A RECLUSE! partner I mean I didn't see him much out in about their. Yeah, elmer was more in the back. Yeah, yeah, he liked the back seat. He put a Mario into the front seat. Well, he was real gregarious, right and right and very Italian. Right yeah, and he he was a great front front door. person who really was he and he would he would have to okay. People I'd walk in with some fellow, and he'd look him up and down and give me a look like this. One's not good enough for you. You know he would even say that. Sometimes he's that one's out for you. When I came in with Keith Moon he he looked up. He went. He nodded approval. Pity no okay. there. You were there watching you? Yeah, yeah, now, that is cool. Is Really Cool. I probably walked into my underwear. You were wearing I know exactly what you were wearing. He stumbled in. You were wearing a major at outfit with sequins all over it. Oh, how great is that? Stat. I also wear forties. Bathing suits out. Why remember that? Wow, major retina out I I actually war. That also was a real, Don steeler. Do you remember the real downstairs show? It was a local TV show and I was one of the dancers on that show and I- fond had we had to fawn over the real. Don Steele and I? That was one? The outfits were on that TV show. Oh boy with amazing. Amazing time, it really wasn't. It's so fun to share it with people because. It's almost incomprehensible now. It is and you know like I said earlier, women were not supposed to be doing the things we were doing. But at and we just and you very very ahead of the curve, just going after what you wanted in in the in the rock world, and no one understood it. They just saw his loose women like slots or something. It was so not that if it was so what you know, I mean. How dare you judge? We were judged, and we were doing just what we wanted to do, and that is feminism to me. I? Agree Yeah, of course you agree. Okay now I'm very curious about this one I was seeing Jimmy. Page and Michelle over move seeing Robert Plant and we were hang out with Zeppelin and you were seeing Peter Grant. That absolutely fascinating. He weighed about three hundred fifty pounds. Right I would think yes, yeah. and. Totally devoted to the Ba- abandoned I have never seen an and took care of them like like. They were precious God's which they're still perceived that way. But. I loved him as a person I mean he was always there for me. You know I was always on his ample lap, but you went further than that with Peter. Grant and I'm I want to hear about that? Teeter was such a sweet. Compassionate genuine man your he was. I think a lot of people were afraid of him. Oh, yeah! He had this bigger than. Life, persona underneath was really sweet man, who was, and I remember when I met him an and he realized that I was interested. Real, I was thrilled he wasn't. A whole lot of action I don't think he treated me so sweetly and tenderly. Like a little doll maybe! That's pretty fantastic. Well. I sure loved him. I took him in his the band to newbies. That's remember when they started looking countrified. I took them to new to get off suit it out, and he was so excited because they had tiny sized cowboy clothes, and he got him for his kids Oh. Oh, yeah, and so did Bonzo bonds got some for his kids to. Bonzo was a big teddy bear also unless he got drunk. I was up in the led Zeppelin camp quite a bit because Peter. I was watching everything. But I was pretty protected by peters well, yeah, so I was protected by Jimmy to a lot of people think that the whole led Zeppelin. We're up in putting fish, people and stuff. It was not the case. It was no no John Paul. Jones was very graceful and elegant would never consider such a thing, right? But the whole, neither did the rest of the band except Bonham. BONHAM would get hooked up with the roads. In real drunk and the Rhodesian Bonham did all that crazy story cow. So it was not Robert Jimmy. Or John Paul Jones got up to that mud shark stuff you guys. I dated one of the roadies I. Know which one they got into and trying to trying to think he was one of my favorites, too, and I can't quite. Was Jimmy's Rhody now beautiful guy big toe. Those rotors were beautiful, weren't they? Really were, so you didn't so roadies to you were were A. Good Bet Tell us what I liked them and I met a lot of them because they would come you know into the Whiskey, we you would meet the roadies. First off. Yeah. It's a good way to be able to go to the show. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, totally. Are you still friendly with Richard, Cole? Through the Social Media Facebook absolutely Richard Cole turned out to be such a different person and he was back then. That's one of the biggest transformations I've ever seen. And maybe the biggest in my life transformation whole was seeing my roommate. Charlotte quite. Average I remember sure that was a big love affair. Right and so I was in the camp due to that yeah. Look around and okay. What am I gonNA do now. Well he was A. The rough and Tumble Rhody, and and then he went on to be you know the the sober companion to people like Robert. Downey Oh my does you know I didn't? He went onto. Be Sober companion to movie stars for a while before he went back to England tastic. Was An incredible transfer pitch. He was the most notorious Rodeo of all. Yes, yeah, yes. I'm do some things. yeah. Okay What else do you want to tell us? Your. Who? Who did you spend a lot of quality time with? I know you went out with in place for a while, right? An pace from ace from deep purple. Time with deep, purple, uh-huh yeah, and what era was that mid seventies? Was Yes smoke. Maybe smoke on the water. Everyone knows. Funny well, the girls and I, we up IV up in the whiskey office. We get all the promo packs, so we of pick our you know. This is Westwood's minus was GonNa just love that because we did two in the GTO's, we'd really tried to make sure that we didn't have crushes on the same member of any band right because we were there for each other as well right I mean girl friends were really true each other back then. Until later on the younger groupie girls came in, and it got shifted around a little bit. That's for sure, but you know. The girls all loved each other then to. Was it the same with the? Waitresses at the whisky, everybody did love Donny. Quite a few of the girls that were there good everybody everybody kind of knew where they were, they would be and land, and who they were after and respectful and. But I. I mean I would kind of go with go out with. A girl for whatever I wanted. I didn't let things hold me back. I mean talk about being in the candy store. Right! I mean you had your pick it was. I was jealous of you. Girls back then because you, you were there. For hours every night, and you could meet them at sound checks. And all of that stuff was going on right. That was the whole thing you get in, you know. We knew the band was coming. We'd we'd. Ahead of time meet them during the day getting things, said yeah, and then show up in our finery for the. Perfect man lot of parading around hoping that sounds like a good series to me. Doesn't it? Yeah, the the the Whiskey waitresses in the seventies. What a great show that would make! Wow, there's quite a few of them. You know now that we have social media, facebook and whatnot it's. It must be fun being times. Interesting to see how their memories are differ from mine and. Then again I did work in the office. I was protected I. Yeah, Yeah, Oh, yeah, there was some hard course things that went on I i. remember a story I don't was it. You was I. Don't think it was you. Another girl told me the story of of Milton Berle. At the Whiskey I think this was before you work there. Milton Berle Yeah a lot of old time, Hollywood people continued to frequent that place well in Milton, Berle's nephew. Marshall ended up being the manager of the eighties span rat. Clam, Proverbial Hall and Marshall Berle came to work in my office at the whisky. I wonder if he met through his uncle. Elmer, Valentine fired him to work in our office. That was quite well. I'll tell you this story I heard one of the waitresses there he would. He was notorious for having the biggest. Penis in Hollywood. And he would pull it out of his trousers in the whiskey and let it hang loose. Hang loose and would take the waitresses hands and put it on there. And one of the waitresses told me that story. Wait. Who was there and she said Milton Berle. Oh My. A lot of people listening don't know who Milton Berle is, but he was a very early fifties early sixties TV, had his own TV shows comedian. He often dressed in drag. He had the biggest penis in Hollywood. Apparently and he pulled it out. Do you know how? Unbelievably out of. No one could do that. No one can absolutely not, but his nephew wasn't far off from that so. He didn't quite. You didn't quite go that far, but. He came in as a counter or CO, booker with elmer for a while with rebel and time for a while so I worked with him I guess they met through Milton. I'm trying to remember how how he did. Come about I was there. I was at the whisky for so long and and it was kind of towards the in the eighties that he came in just for a short while he he I think really he was just kind of looking for a management looking to weed through the band's to manage them, and he took rat. It took them a long ways. Dating one of them, right? Well I. Guess You could call it dating. I say sometimes well. I was seeing. All of them you were one story one time. Until I got caught. Well wanted to know that story I don't know. Okay well. It was one. The Stephen. Peercy your as squeezing that been I adored Stephen Peercy. Yeah I just I just had a had a cut out for him if you will. He was what. Everything that made my heart tick. And and of course you know then there, and I've got this wonderful job and and I'm this princess so to speak and they you know they were all coming one after another and I thought well. Why not so? Did Wow. Why not? There was no reason why, not back then you know it was a time that's. I? Don't think it's ever GONNA. Come again. Make you know I mean i. don't either, but you know for me and the ban rat I help them. Get their record deal. I I had the capacity to invite in record. People would listen to me I didn't call every day. Say this is a great Dan. You need to come. Listen to the fan, but I did for them I was right. They got a deal. They did many albums and it was. Quite, fun for me. Also, so you assisted them in various ways. That's another thing people when they hear the word Groupie. They don't realize what's going on behind the scenes. You know you know. They imagined things which is fine. I'm still called names to this day. I recall the word group. He coming about when I was about fourteen fifteen. My father used it frequently because I was following around the bands, the Beatles and the rolling stones My mom even drove me up to hang out at Saint Pierre Road when the Beatles were staying. there. There I was up there. My mom sitting in the car with my newborn brother. While I'm trenching around in the in the garden. To. Go into their backyard. Because Ronnie Lewis Jerry Lewis scored us through there. There you go! We were. Doing well, so my my dad indulge me and all of that. He drove me to the rolling stones concerts and. In his car. He would put on a little chauffeur's cap and drives his Cadillac so that I was going in style. But that was the that was the the group he'd say. You're a groupie. You know it. It seemed after a bit of time. It rolled into something a little, not so cute. That's for sure well and I, it was just a name. Bruce came groom. You followed a group. You have a person. I'd heard the word visit British magazine. And then the first time I heard someone say about me. I was hanging outstanding led Zeppelin. So you must've heard it even before I did. But it didn't even. If the need anything negative? Not at all. No, it was cute. It was fun. It was cute. It was an accurate description now as as we're hanging around as young girl. Are we not a fantasizing of becoming that girlfriend? For sure absolutely rock bands. That was not even you know there were. Certain singers and Frontier Hill motown girls and stuff that there were no rock girls right so that was the closest we could get to. Susie quattro came about and I wanted to be suzy quattro. Going to be that tough faulty check. She's my friends on facebook now. I lowered her character. Siren her. She's really open. Just turned seventy. As well as I am this year. I'm excited. I like things sixty nine, though the naughty number number. Two. Number. I wish I could go back to sixty nine. But but yeah, the word group I you know I. It did evolve changed. You know I'm I'm not I'm so proud of it. Totally and I am too so. Very much upsets me when people lump it in with. slut whore, which happens quite often often miss it. I mean of all things. That's not what we were right. No, no, we just what we wanted to do. And it was quite fun I guess. Was Long. And easier to do than you could walk into the whisky and Gogo any night of the week. and. Bump into. Ten rockstars. Absolutely they hung out there. It was so fun it was so safe for them. Then I mean. It changed course I think. Things. Change a bit when John. Lennon got killed. Well more protection around there was absolutely yeah. I mean in the early days I would hang around out front. When I was able to get in there every night I was always afraid I'd miss out on something I was there every single night almost like wallpaper. Every night, my home away from home wonderful when I when I got the opportunity to come into the office and began working there and I. I ended up being a fulltime employees. It was really pretty funny, because fulltime was it was eleven am to seven PM. Then I was. Always late to work. Elmer love me so much. He adjusted the hours ultimately ended up working twelve to five. Had Children, got married. The whole time while I was there I was I was really as right hand man. You're married a couple of times just yes. and. You have a couple kids with the first guy to four. I had my daughter long before that. my daughter, amy that I named after. Eddie regarding and she's real friends. We have a fifty two. She's fifty two. She's an amazing woman and old is your youngest. My youngest is thirty three. I have a large gap in there, so. So when I ended up, going off in married. I continued working, and I had three sons, so I had my four children little. Amy was there up in the office, going along with me riding on the console of my little. Mustang going from you know hotel to van to everybody laughter. Fun. And then you married bronchial? That's how you got your name. That's how I got my name. Ron. Keel came through with a his rock band called steeler. And he was quite charming and and seem to want to have a family and settled down and. A rarity that world twenty year relationship. And children, their couple children. They're kept his name a good name so I did indeed, DNA, all I kept. My ex-husband's into good one. Yeah. I like it works. One of my favorite stories in the book is your. Experience With David Cassidy so I want to hear that story. From beginning to end. David I adored. While he was such a beauty. Oh! He did. He's the one that made my heart sang. And I didn't. Ever imagine! Initially that I would ever meet him. We devoured the partridge family week to week and. All through the years and in my It was the bookkeeper. At the whisky that wanted to make that. Lifelong dream of mine happen. And she was. Her boyfriend was a set. Maker at one of the studios and new. K. Lens. And kind of show. Yeah kind of tricked them. Into having. Her infiltrate their. Little Party at one point I think it was maybe a baby shower or something like that befriended her and got the address. And Severance David's address. Avoid and surprised me. It was a birthday gift. Going to his home. And how long had you brushed on that point? It had to be ten years. And he was already. Obviously, the show was no longer on at that point. It was records and he at that time Ben. Wasn't even with her. It was. It was kind of a kind of a sad dime. Really he was an interim. He had moved into A. New House in the valley and She didn't know where we're going. My birthday present my. Going to this house. and. We parked and I walked up, and and she says knock on the door, and the door cracked open and there was the face. Is An amazing story I thought I was going to faint. I can't even imagine what that must have been like and he was prepared for you. Was He. Prepared to see expected us. Yes. Yes, he he. He literally said I hear. I'm your birthday present. That's okay. Is the best birthday present I've ever. It was the best birthday present I've ever gotten. and. What happened from there. He was sitting in the family room, watching TV in the dark with boxes all around him. It was quite sad. It was very dark and depressing. Really he wasn't going through a good time. Things weren't Peaceful and happy even in his marriage and You know so. That was I. think he just really wanted someone to listen to those woes and And Comfort Him and and very high volunteered. I met him in later on probably in. Late eighties. Early Nineties and he was in a good place at that time, he had a different life. And and he was He just written his book. Readers Book. I I did eventually. Yes, yes, you talked about his big member in that. was He correct about that absolutely? No longer with us I liked him so much as a person. He was so funny, right? He was so sweet. I mean maybe almost two to a fault. That, he was really a good person and very lonely. Yeah, I, don't think he ever really got the. That understanding and the love and the care that he really desired, and I think as far as his career went, he was. He did not want it something totally. Debussy did I had A. Rough relationship when his dad. Oh, my God. Yeah, which really colored his whole life I? Think, but he was a very decent man. I really liked him. I interviewed him for something or other. We hit it off and he started coming some my party's news. Really sweet really liked. I did as well I really. Did I really had a lot of respect for him? Was a sad sad that he's gone. I know. Young but I. Guess. Last I heard. He was in very bad shape on stage. Right didn't have dementia or something like that. Yeah I. Think he did and I did I did go to a performance did towards the end It was heartbreaking. I choose to not remember that. You have a better memory with him. I actually went with one of your good friends. Camp Oh you, did you? See How city. You Know Kim has a crush on you. Why in the world? You know he's is so shy my friend Kip. He want to become a I've tried to invite him to the podcast guests because we have such fun time on my rock tours. We have our James Dean connection and he's got to great bands he was in. And he's too shy booked Hispanic shock. You see he should be over here with me. I know well. I will remind him. July had a lot of fun with a molly. He's he's he's. He was any such a good guy. Good, guy so much fun. How much fun we'll get him on the show. We'll get him. Yeah, we went together to that show. Wow, was he's kind of sad to about it was. I think so yeah. It was hard to not be. You. Such, a Pop Music Fan Oh. Yes, yeah, he really really gets it. I still had such great time in such great memories. I have really good memories of him. I wouldn't have changed demanded of it. Yeah! We haven't talked about Jeff. Beck which is quite interesting story. Get on Jeff. So let's hear that story. People love stories. Well, yeah, I actually wrote a I've been taking because I took your writing class Then I have continued doing some writing and I've written big chunks. I'm so glad to hear. That I've been working with. A man named Chris Epton. Who's done a few books in mostly, he's a Huntington. Beach Historian Music Historian. So I do, go and write my stories. When I was in class with him once a week, we'd read them. and He loved my stuff. Good, so I called that one how to catch a Rockstar. That's a great title. And then it had a subtitle the fine art of trickery. But, you weren't you were just being yourself. Went back to my old young rascals. Go to I called the hotel and when I found out that That Jeff was in town, and I left a message not for Jeff, but for his Drummer Cozy Powell okay Oh. That same tricky, used I. I guess it isn't hanging out. House and Man at the time. stevie wonder was performing at the whisky. Please how about the people who formed with whiskey still never ceases to amaze me, so who doesn't want to go see Stevie, wonder at the whisky, so I invited him. Oh. Let on that, we met each other previously. And, of course we have you made that up. That's right. I guess that is a little bit of trickery. stugotz, how would they remember really by? The conditions. Some of those people were in Oh. My so I made sure he was on the guest list too nice. Said you know he's. He said you're on the list. Go ahead, he says well, you know my memory's not all quite used to be you and he says to me you'll have to come up and suck me in the jar something. So. I waited in in in my in my best Purple Cape. Rose members, which on I love that. He walked through the doors, and he's looking around, and so I literally walked up and took my fist and went boom. Cute, but I thought to myself really where I'm aiming is for Jeff. Though I was really taken by Cozy I made sure that he had a really good night. So that in that I drove him back to the hotel. It wasn't too many days after that that Jeff that came into the whiskey. Looking for me Oh. So cozy had told him what an amazing time had with you. He did indeed. About that share and share alike man. That's what that's. What was going on back then and it was fun. Fun and he slid into the next to me and whispered in my ear. Are you the one? And I said why whatever do you mean? Worked man did work I sit. down. Who'll and that was pretty fun because everyone in the club was wondering. Did she do that? Fantastic man. You knew how to make it happen, and he always happen. He asked you know there somewhere we can go and. I thought heck. Yeah, go to my place. I did drove him to my place. and. How was he i? Mean? Obviously, we'RE NOT GONNA get into details, but I've heard good good things about his prowess. Everything about him is fantastic. Yeah, what a sweet! Loving intelligent man! And he's still just. Playing away. Isn't it so cool? He just wanted to have fun and to walk out of the whiskey with him, and how everybody watch such a coup and I was so proud of myself. and then I knew I had the hook and line because I had a sixty nine purple cougar automobile. and. I knew he loved cars. I made sure I drove that car. Oh, my father had a fleet of wonderful muscle cars and I knew. Your father had a fleet of Muscle car. Father was a car dealer at one point and he. Had Access to a lot of wonderful vehicles. And I saw that one and. Course he wanted to drive it. How great man and he did. And I took him home. Good for you, honey and we had a great time on a lot of a lot of a lot of talking and I was surprised at how well we connected quite frank. Good. Was that when the Jeff Beck Group are a little later, we'll host was drumming. Oh, so that was a little later. When he was at just playing as himself as south. Show that I went to the performance that he went to around that time was at the San. Bernardino Swing Auditorium So we gone to that, show afterwards which you know. I was very excited to be in front of Molly performance. This oh that's always the best to be onstage with. Someone watching them perform knowing. You're going to just be with them later. There's nothing like that kind of of rock and roll magic. Absolutely, he was really a kind of a dream. Come true that I actually pulled that off with shocking. To, myself. And that Y- There was a lot of work. Put behind that mean. There was a lot of thought processes, and you know absolutely. Thought if cozy. When harmon said what a Great Time Dad! Any totally worked. One of my favorite bands was the Jeff Beck Group. With Rod Stewart singing and he was brand new on the scene, and what a character he already had a huge huge ego before he you. Anyone knew who he was, but that that band was so great his album truth is one of my very favorite records. And I. Guess I can talk about this now because i. I couldn't write about it. because I wasn't in the room when it happened, but several of the GTO's. at Frank ZAPPA's cabin. Saw Jeff Beck. Give himself. Oh. Wow, did you notice that he was quadruple? Joining like that I did not. I missed that one. Dr Know if we can keep this in, but. He I saw him years later, and the girls came running out and saying Oh my God. You can't believe what just happened. And I was very upset that I missed it tired, and I actually tried to put it and I'm with the band and the attorneys reading the books that if you didn't witness it, you can't write about it. I could have had I been in that room, but side Jeff many years later Helena's. And he thanked me for not putting it in my book and Little Dino no I tried. Oh there, you go because what a wonderful to be able do. Absolutely. Very telling. More talented than anybody new. GTO sought three of them. I have such fun memories of him. Just I mean. He was just fine on me to you know he played on our record and he was, he played on Mercy Song and couple songs on on the GTO's record, and he was just a doll. His whole band was. So, we sure have some great memories. Memories Yeah, I have absolutely done beyond anything. I ever imagined I do in life. Much Fun I look back and I have. Great Memories no regrets no regrets down here off ever couple regrets for things I didn't. Have done. That's that's the whole chicken you regret the down to. Glory I things I could have a couple of amazing things I could have done that I, you know. have a date with Elvis and things like that. But I you know I. Don't regret anything. I actually did high end tickets to see Elvis through Elmer Valentine and didn't go. There is a prime example, so we both have been storing dis. Yeah, I had someone call me up and say Elvis needs a date tonight to come up to his house and Watch TV. It was Larry Geller, who did his hair and was his spiritual adviser? And I had just gotten engaged to Michael and I said no I better not. Later I told my only didn't. What were you thinking? Of course you should have gone out there. And anyway only regrets for things I. Didn't do well see. That's the way it goes for real. So tell me about now. How is DD Keel now I am wonderful. Yeah, I am seems like it well, still working for the Public School district, and you've been a teacher. I'm the detention supervisor. Supervise a middle school. That is so fantastic. The Keel is a detention supervisor well. I have to say is really funny. How that even came about I? I wanted my family thought it was time I got a real job They wanted me to apply at the city, the county and the local school district. I did I went put applications into to all of them, and I got called back I got I got offered the job. Animal Control at the county of Orange and offered the job as the AFC attendant at the school district I wanted to work with children so I took that job, not knowing exactly what it was. A come to find out hits the detention supervisor. Wow but come to find out I'm really good at it. uh-huh! Wow, I think because I could relate to being rebellious team. Yeah that I connected with these kids that were having these similar issues. I learned right away to give them choices. And that that afforded me an awful lot of power with them. To relate I have since become very well known as being misty, the rock and roll girl. Will I'm sure with the Internet can look all kinds of things. I was afraid. But most recently I did have gone through quite a few being there. Eleven years I've gone through quite a few administrators at the school site that I work at and my most recent assistant principal came to me and said. I've Google Jew and I thought Oh darn. Yeah, and she said I really get it. It's amazing. Amazing Life you've had I thought sure. That's so good that people are starting to appreciate this incredible life that that women live back. Then I don't think I could do the job as well as I do it. I'm still there Gone through some of the many trials and triumphs that I have in my lifetime, trials and triumphs, so about not long ago, I, did I was on the family feud TV show? Okay and Steve Harvey had asked about. What do you do for a living and I had mentioned the I worked at the whisky ago. Then I real quick said it ties in with what I do now. I'm the detention supervisor. So so I was able to to say to Steve Harvey. So you see I know how to handle naughty boys. I had started by telling the story of spending my twenty first birthday with led Zeppelin. Oh. On the family feud I said that on the family feud. Oh that is so cool, peaked a lot of interest. Long you figure if you spend your twenty first birthday with led Zeppelin, and now you're working as a detention supervisor to middle school. I think I qualify to handle naughty boys. So, it was perfect. So, are there any acts that Yousof first? And then they at the whisky? And then they just became. Household names. Oh, so many I think my most favorite story if you can remember. Of course. I followed you around. Look at you I love you and I followed around for so long that I'm thrilled to be here. Oh thank you G, you remember. A band called sparks in my favorite. They're still my. Top, five favorite band, so we book them at the whisky is half Nelson. Yes, that was their first band and. Nobody came. Nobody came I didn't see them till they were sparks the very first time they became. Sparks I guess it was nineteen. Seventy I saw them, so they went to to the UK. And they came back, and they changed their name to spa, and so I got this great idea to say. Direct from England. And people showed up. They didn't need. That is so good. Great triumph for their newest album is so good man there still one of my favorite fantastic. I learned so much working with Elmer, Valentine and I I had a good a good handle on things that were happening that where he didn't the the the street level. You know that kind of thing. and I was privy to a lot of secrets that were going on in Hollywood and Elmer had movie stars. Coming up, we'd have we'd Sonny Bono share. They were coming up to have lunch the elmer, so he knew everybody else story and we opened the Roxie so we had you know double things going I was answering phones for both at one. Time well, we should have you on again a crazy crazy stuff. But one of the one of my most favorite stories that I see if you WanNa hear now we can I can bring it. Bring it full circle, okay? The. My love affair with Ian Paice of deep purple right. The girls kind of set me up with him. We went into the highest house bar and they wanted to be around deep purple, and my roommate was so in love with Jon Lord. What we're we're going to work in. Set you up with this drummer and. I had no idea what I went along with it. He was so sweet. What a wonderful man! He was I see him all the time I was. His La girl and pace would come into town and I would go see him i. was this girl absolutely adored? Him drove down to surprise him one night with with my roommate Charlotte in my little car. All the way to San, Diego to the sports arena were deep, purple were performing, Walk Down, the ramp, had no way of getting in, but used our our groupie glory and talked our way. Way, in, he had already taken the stage, and he was behind the drum kit, a new look down in where he was so excited, and then I drove him back to town well, yeah so i. when I got I got married to the road manager, frigging and the stooges and I I was working at the whisking and I was very pregnant and I'm in the foyer of the whiskey and n Walks Ian Paice and I hadn't seen him in about a year. Oh, he just liked one one look at my stomach and would look heartbroken. Asked me if I wanted to go to England with him Oh, and I didn't WanNA leave Must have something was coming in kind of glorious spot, I had three. Men that. I was really in love with, but it was time to sell down I had my little five year old daughter Amy, yeah yeah and I picked the American man. So he walked in and any any just kind of felt my stomach. And I just I felt like heartbroken for myself heartbroken for him but I knew I'd I'd made the the right choice so now. I find out this is recently. That Ian Paice is coming to town. And I had read that he'd had I believe he had a heart attack. And I I really wanted to see him. I wanted to go full circle. As I'm getting older I'm thinking these. Yeah! I happen to be very close friends with a costume designer. An assay costume designer the makes clothing who was doing costuming four. Deep Purple and he gave me the email address of deep purple road manager a woman. And I wrote to her. I say they're coming to town. I wonder if I could see an I just needed to have it. Go around full circle. Totally get it. and. She said I'll have to ask if he'd like to see you. And she wrote back he does. Mostly. To see how so they were performing in Orange County it was deep, purple and There was an opening act. Oh No. It was deep, purple and Co Headlining Judas Priest Oh. Yeah, I remember the costume designer for Judas. Priest was the one who got me on the list and. It was very official. I had a a purple pass with an Ip on it. Which I realize many Ian Pace. And they come out with a walkie and they call my name. He's ready for you. Oh! Wow things have changed, and I'm paraded into this wonderful backstage area with curtains and cushy, and he came walking out and I thought Oh my heart be still. And he looked just lovely as he ever had. Oh, and he sat down, and held my hand in, and I looked in the eyes, and I said. But do you actually remember me? And he said in his wonderful little accent I've only ever had one girlfriend named Didi. Old that it's so sweet. That was such a rap for me. I love it. Oh, he offered some wine. He got US wine and we sat and we talked, and we reminisced and I reminded him of our time together, and he remembered each. Bet. And they came to get him to go on stage and he said please ask to see me again. Come through town. Oh, that is so perfect, isn't it? And we had a photo together? Yeah, his road manager came out and took a photo. And I took my place in the audience. And that was it and I thought to myself. I'm not going to ask to see him again. It was. A Super Oh. Let's he doesn't doesn't end this way, yeah! Yeah, so that was just to me such a tie of for my whole. Time of the Seventies. Your music life us. You don't ever want it to not end that well, so yeah, he's come to town sense and it's all I can do to not out. picture-perfect. It really was yeah that he considered me. Girlfriend It's not just as L. Acre all. It was wonderful. Thank you so much for reminiscing with me I really enjoyed it absolutely pleasure delighted. Love you love you, too. Thank you bye bye! Will. Wasn't that incredible what? Credible forthrightness there from DD Keel. Her stories. You know some people might say. Wow! Isn't that salacious? Yes, and she's proud of her history, and so am I. You know because she's a Groupie jazz. A groupie heart I've a groupie heart. We connected. It was lovely, so thank you. DD loved it so much and while I have your attention. 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We ought Derek growth had an iconic fifty point game but why was his career high I before the fifty point game was at thirty nine forty one forty two or forty seven points in a single game forty one forty one for Derek. DOC said they're very confidently Derek. I I like the reviewer they gave him. One against the Lakers forty two for Mike P for it is forty two. You hit that confidence. I liked the cavernous. Is this a little bit of question number two from Cesar cruise which was the last pair of teammates to finish first and second and scorn born was answers and see the crew was Alex English and Kiki Vandeweghe was the MCAS Scottie Pippen what is corrine and clouds wreck slow Osa Russell Westbrook and Kevin going to rant in scorn for single season. Yes one into first and second. What's is an amazing thing. Is Only it only happened once in the current era the sixties and fifties count. I'm sorry I'm sorry anybody that was planning sixties as watching this episode but Westwood Durant Allies Awan Drexler Sular short and pithy Alexander Way. I'M GONNA go with this algorithm. I'm going on the line and cloud. Ok P we were Jordan pimp. Losing you can keep it is Alexander Kiki Vandeweghe and eighty three eighty four or something like that number one and number two. I was looking at season and there's a bunch of names and atop in that. I don't even recognize there was leading the League in scoring so I guess a season the Madison. What's then then lastly of this episode? Allison is cool and Kiki Vandeweghe given people those fans and mess with that Allen Chan which a player has the highest percentage in the history of the league win percentage is calculated by total wins divided by the total number of games played right. Is it AIDS right. Mark Green is a beep Michael. Jordan is as C. Tim Duncan or a D. Choline Linda while while Leonard Conductor Squad Leonard Year has seventy five point thirty seven percent of his gave that crazy said that so many times on the playoffs they'd say K to at least last year they idea and Co winner and the second was Magic Johnson. I didn't even know why Magic Johnson wasn't an option here because he's pretty close seventy three point point nine five percent. Larry was seventy three point five eight and then so pretty close wise guy that and who knows maybe even higher at in this season because the clippers are great so let's talk about the clippers man big offseason for them like one of the most crazy things happen or maybe it was one o'clock in the morning some like that this time when we heard about Kawhi Leonard signing. He's like Oh snap. We finally know at three minutes later after we found out that Paul George is coming with him. I get out of bed winter. My work room recorded a video right there about it because I was in disbelief. That's why the NBA is such a great because something like this that you cannot predict happens asleep when it happened but I woke up like three and I remember looking at it and I was just in Disbelief uh-huh there Paul George was going to because he really just signed his his extension to and I was like wow they're going to be dangerous because they still got most of their core from last year to have all all of Larry. Geller is the only got tomatoes here. She's not there no more but I mean that team was in the playoff hunt for most of the season last year and then it got to the point where the trade deadline. They traded their best player Tobias Harris but they got yes so they fire if you trades arrest player and you get better yeah. I'll say you still pay him. In lieu will definitely Lewis definitely there so they are projected to forty eight games aims which seems a bit low. I think they take it into account. It right management said quals low manager won't be as strict as last year which sisk which is good to hear a clippers game and not see him play exactly we'll be there that he will bob after the first month of the season because he had this shoulder injury but he was just at the core outside of clip from the House of highlights and he was hoping and then he's been in the gym so who knows I'm the speculation about him not being ready for the beginning of the season but regardless even if he miss Su three weeks that team is still good enough to be you know they're looking at what Pat Bay of Landry Shamet then. We have Paul George if he was healthy. Kawai Massara five is crazy the wheel monitor yeah six six or seven man. I liked it. It was exciting. Geologist said we kept looking at the CO Atlanta going to the clippers alone and thinking ain't GonNa how good they can be let alone and Paul George candidate last year and I'm glad you said that how excited and this made basketball because I got this port up in front of me about the NBA pass and the changes ten four stricter measures to free agency tampering rules Yup. We're now the penalty is going up from six million ten million. They'll do random audits where they can take a player's agents and some front office guys phones. They mentioned doing things about guys contact. Another guy traded like the coli they basically because of the alright so because he's new rules being applied we that may have been our last big bang exactly yeah because is at midnight realistically. There's no way players had already had contract signed because that means they were talking before the beginning of the free agency period so we won't get like how some people stay up all night to livestream. The Free Agency period is not gonNA happen that way anymore. We see Timofey Mas signed a one or six so now did they changed the time that people can also propose a banner players communicate with one another to progressive trae from current team seen reaction to win coalisland and approach coach Paul George July to get him on just and fair interesting then Adam Silver said I think it's pointless at the end of the day to have rules that we can't enforce it hurts. The perception of integrity around on a League people say well you have that rule in is that teams aren't fully complying. So why do you even have it. I think the sense in the room was we revisit. Those rules tampering reached a fever pitch during the two thousand nine hundred eighty two c period with nearly every major deal seemingly agreed upon before quickly after the Celtics tampering period began June thirtieth some feels like Kimmel walkers packed with the Boston Celtics and Kyrie Irvings with the Brooklyn Nets report it will before teams. Were even supposed to be able to contact players. There's a big difference between we have conversations about. How team wants to Rosser would've prioritize the free agency and whether they have interesting your player or having a deal on June twenty eight until a watch both sides are an information gathering business. That's the nature of the job and apparently wochit some agent or a the Front Office Yeah Front Office Guy told him that he'll he'll he'll play by the rules until he finds that other people on then go back to none which is what he did with the NBA draft right. We use like they're thinking about drafting this guy. It was something like that but that's very interesting to this. After this off season so like seems like the clippers or people to hit big if fritzy they'd lucked out because next as a class kind of trash so they'd lucked out that this rule was it for this year because who knows how Brooklyn would look if they couldn't talk to carry Irvine before you you know that this thing started so definitely definitely lucked out there but this clippers same super super excited and they're going to be a defensive greedy team PAB AF Santo Santos Gerbil on him one of the best shooters in the league last year his rookie year mattress hair was a dog off the bench that we know alluvial can do too so I'm super excited for this team but we gotta look at positives and negatives. One of the big negatives for them is that they trade a pretty much the entire future for a two years of Paul George winner so if they strike out in those two years for us championship goes both of those players can walk and go try to pursue a somewhere else but I think it's a worthy thing that's right because you have been one of those seams over the laughing stock of the League. When I came amen then you have the whole sterling thing that happened that made it even even worse and they were always. LA's little brother in my still always be Lakers town. Yes it will probably always do you. Lakers town but the clippers can now fight at potentially when it's Yes doc rivers had like a little interview we're talking about the process and he was talking about. I had told them the team wasn't good enough and they needed to get Paul George and do this and that and it's a quote right here they said the Stephen Bomber because apparently kept saying six pigs for Paul. George is a lot and Dogra Rousson keeps and six pitch for Paul. George is insane but a six pigs for Paul Ankle exactly because he wasn't coming without another is is. He looks at it as three for each young anybody who do that so I I think. I think that it's a good risk because I think even if they don't get the temperatures in the new takes two years. I think they'll be awfully close or something happened. I'm I'm sure collide would stay just because it's that. La Town George I don't I don't know L. A. Natives. I think they wanted to stay in in. La and who yeah I think thinking of way they both of them. Leave is like something harassing. You should the bid or somebody even making conference finals dig into it yeah but ah but it seems like both of those guys will be at a jail. Neither wanted a personalities that I too strong and I think it was pretty laid back and quiet. I don't think Oh yeah I don't think anything's really popoff popoff would them to write and then I mean when you look at contract wise I mean they're the top two obviously but then after that I mean you got a little wheels prior to third as a player on teen gene. He's the fifth highest play mom. Mohawk is the one making eleven Patrick Bev making twelve. He's got his money. ZUBEC- is making six. He'll probably be due for a was it already do. ZUBEC- wasn't they. Restrict okay near Montreal. Herald probably get paid but other than that I mean they. They got they got something. Nice outlander champagne sale and his rookie deal. I liked the rookies that they brought in. They didn't bring in anybody. That's going to win rookie of the year obviously but when you look at parents man and you look at Kevin Jelly from Florida state dough to defensive guys as well you got a defensive guy on a wing and Tasmanian Captain Jelly is a big man who can shoot threes and protect the rim. This is the first time I've heard his name pronounced Coca Peja Jellyfish but I liked it hasn't done anything with Landry. Shamet Landry. Shamet wasn't a rookie of the year oh my gosh but he fit what they were trying to do any minute well with their best players and I think these are the same type of guys that have come in and like I say may not have these crazy rookie numbers offers but for their team they'll be guys they can come in and measure will set up to the clippers out to the seventy sixers for making this possible for the clippers with the larger sandwich right. Ah they got the pigs when they censor by his hair is in those pigs turned into Paul George Carlin L. Landry. Shamet who shot let me see what it's three or four percent almost forty two percent from three in the regular season. Jerry West get it done. I'm yeah he does. I'm excited for Landry. Shamet because we get to see him on even bigger stage and I think as long as you continue to sir put up the numbers like that when his contract is up he's on his mind seems he's. GonNa go elsewhere and I think we'll see we'll see something. We'll see something to go for him because I don't think we're going to see his full capabilities yet if we do then this thing will be more dangerous but I just from what I know once once seen of him in college with how shot the ball in the NBA he could you know if he gets the opportunity he can. He can take to another level. I always get pretty jealous us about stuff like this like he was drafted twenty six overall and he looks he has potential to be very very good at least always a valuable player because of his shooting ability the balls like like as a fan we often have to double pigs right like last year we had double picks and we drafted Goddamn Hutchison but then you but Hutcherson may they have been a good player he might be team is a different thing when you plan on Benson Joel and be like sham was at the early part of his career is easy to come in to knock down shots and you learn from from Jj redick anywhere though I don't know come off screens a hit threes cause more than coming off screens. We haven't been since creating for you making defense collapse Joylin beating paint WHO's getting double teamed different so much focuses on them it just makes you it makes it easier for you and he's back in a similar situation where he got two superstars right next to him to take a lot of time that you by the time he did that with the Sixers d has the most important part of NBA players career. which is the confidence traffic part? Once you get the confidence that I can do this shit. I can score. I plant level when I'm doing good once you get that as game over now. Landry shamet could probably go tabu than do it now but fresh out of college right they want an NBA with the Bulls. I don't I don't know if he would have that same type of level of play just because it's hard to get that confidence confidence take a player's career from here to here this Steph Curry Steph curry could always use the shooting the ball lights at a Davidson but when he got that confidence often it's an NBA started shooting from forty five feet so shoot from half court. He wasn't doing shit like that. Davidson orders first couple years but once he got that confidence game over same thing harder and harder always who the third overall pick is the dog six-man year but now he's a step back in euro in one footed it is like confidence is a dangerous thing. Have you know anything but let alone basketball player that confidence and you don't give a damn and you out there who can freely is. This is dangerous but yeah. I like the same. The outer small lineup is going to be killing mantras that five and you can have Paul George. It's acquired at the forest. You can pick your poison who you want to put out by a sham and will you can put Patrick Beverley. You kinda mix it up last last night. I mean I wish playoffs and you've got the coach. Doc Rivers having whatever you WANNA call it this big to but he he's had experienced coaching. I'm very curious how they close out games yeah because they have so many options and you won't do wheel out. There obviously absolutely Eliza kind of ISO heavy. Give me the ball. I'm GonNA get your bug. It's guide you want that alongside and Paul George you making Lou will become a spot of shooter. You're like this is odd. They have like three legitimate guys that used to close with their team exactly exactly and we're GONNA have to see how balanced as there's this policy for. Just don't the hot hand type in my dame. Cj Do whoever called delay. Let me get the ball. That's kind of funny. I think some people are the type to be like. They always giving the ball but you've got to trust the team. You know I it's it's so I've got a question but we'll save that for after we talk about the Lakers just because it's between those two teams less high the Lakers for later in the show though so we can get people to keep talking about the suns okay. Let's go to the one thousand nine games last season this year. They are projected to jump up to thirty six. Is that's the amazing they want. How many I'm Ashley Nineteen thirty six so when you look at this seat on paper do I see thirty six wins. No okay well I do. I do jump yeah. I do see improvement young trump but from nineteen thirty yes a big jump for seventeen seventeen. Singapore big Joe. I can see a ten game because I was asking because everybody always saying you don't see different from what we add it to what they add is. I think they added players that they need it. You're like Sarge they add. They needed a stretch that could shoot the ball charts. They needed a point guard that can distribute the body. Ricky Ricky Rubio now the best at those things no but Ricky Rubio has been a very good quality plan is Mba for for multiple years and SARS has been to Alpha reason with the reasons that he's just not it to win it all like for the Utah Jazz. They WANNA go all Rubio not starting point guard. If you want to win a championship team like the Sun's trying to go step by step. I think Ricky Rubio. He helps them be competitive. I think this is a quality star in line. We didn't matter because if we have anything how shots were you want but if he's not that he just there especially when you have guys like Devon Booker Donovan Mitchell who answers counterparts that's why they would only want to Minnesota well well. We know what he can do. His role for the most part is distributing the ball that team has wetzel fence right there can put the ball on the him with the Andre in pick and roll could be something four playmate stressed the floor with a Maceio bridges as long and athletic and he defends like the point. We're getting getting end Lee. Is that those guys that you're talking about. Campaign McCain scores so you don't have to bring in Rubio if he's not going to help the offense of flora help that player light like that's the thought is that coming to help that playmaker role was always put on Devon Booker though right right so it doesn't have to be at this point during the book is a good playmaker playmaker but he's not a great playmaker. Play Rubio is a great playmaker so I think they're just divvy up the playmaking aspects of basketball honesty and I but what I'm saying in his if he why take that away if he's hurting him in office away because his shooting ability right his best year was a year before might not last year but the year before he came with the tattoos and the man thirty five percents on damn near name what did he should last year at least thirty one but it is here the ten hours out by this a little bit damned in the same but what I'm saying if broker yeah. He's not just crazy playmaker the last year that wasn't as good as I think. It's going to be this year but I think part of that has to do with his his right to you know what I'm saying because has he has the ball so much. You're going to have to play like you say he's bring. He's bringing drawn a double team so he's GonNa have to pass that ball and that's what I'm saying. That's what the game is going. You look at guys like Hound. How guys like harder David gave the opportunity when Zach Levine was doing right if you if that's the way that the game is going there's no more tradition. There's not a lot not just like you go right there. You're right. There's still haven't been on there still veteran but I'm saying I mean this stuff. He can do on the court that that doesn't show up player. I think he's he's still a veteran guard in his league in for youthful team like that. Phoenix is the time where you can put the ball in his hands and just let that team slow down and gather so back ricky how I don't think he's going to hurt the team but I'm saying if your team like this is a winning the championship were or they WanNa. They WanNa make the playoffs. I doubt they gave him what sixteen million for three years I hope I thought they did a good start this. I I have no. I don't think they make the playoffs at all. They can start off good and they contract did he. Just got it back to a pig for pigs. Isn't it the last year yes. That's what I'm saying. You're you're just you're rebuilding. You're going in a certain direction direction. Endeavouring broken just show that he can give you that he can give you but there are other put another complimentary player next to him on that parameter dashes me for example like who Oar. What do you think is like the price say four. He was the best sleep what they tried to get the Ngelo Russell. That would have been prime SORTA have with him. That's perfect. That's part but you can't always you. Can't you gotta go get ran out with Iran. Ah I'll take this roster without Rubio and then I would run a Devon Booker Maceio Bridges Kelly oubre sorry in aid running like that and if that shouldn't phase going to let tied Jerome. It's a minute we're. We don't let your car to get some minutes L. Ioka Oklahoma. We drafted first pick second round last getting tick. That's what we doing a set of paying sixteen sixteen million dollars. You'll be able to be what to taper off him. I think they just make a little bit more competitive with Ricky Rubio Ricky Rubio just because because he he is a little bit of competitive. This is what I mean what is Ed. What if it does create a five ten win jumping that you do see more progress in their team I mean I think it'd be worth it winning a championship? There's value in getting better especially with a guy like Devon Booker. Who's never been over twenty five win. I think they will get better regardless. I don't think Rick I don't think we look at this and say all shit because avenue in the second year in the Andrea aiden you'd think about how to get the Saric you think about how they added a guy like Frank Kaminsky another big can shoot and you think about even even though you know they didn't undo the right way to be a draft some guys cameras installed and you just shouldn't win brought home could potentially have some going to lean on we know and he can do defense offense defensive. Hair Bay they brought in solid they kept on Kelly oubre who I'm like Alonso it. They're eight and had a good rookie season and that's without anybody. Get him the ball like at all the rookies that we're talking about having good seasons. He had like the least amount of touches he didn't have a player that can get him the ball when he needed it to get to. Devon Booker is a good playmaker. He's not a great playmaker. He missed on a lot of pick and roll. There's an entire video by thinking basketball because there's a narrative about Devon Booker that he's a good stats bad team guy and this guy broke it down to like hey that's not true but one thing that ever booker does missile is the pick and roll with the Andrew Ada a guy that excels at pick and roll with his big man is Ricky Rubio so Andrea Ain't put up like fourteen nine and ten or something like that would not have an point guard even the ball when he's rolling and what did he do great college. He wrote to the basket so now he has a point guard that excels at thank you can expect Deandra agents who get a lot better. You can expect to have a book or to be better because he doesn't matter but now what do we do in a few years but Ricky Rubio is not on his team anymore. I mean at that point. He hoped that under aid is more of a independent place their first year together. I don't expect them to have everything down packing a first year together now with the first gear with Devon Booker with nine Mary playmaker right really so in the second year. That's what we're trying to see them. Get together. I'm not I'm not paying sixty Siemian Dallas a year for me to bring Ricky Rubio helping from which don't even know what the contract matters because they're not saying. That's going to spend that money on a very employer. I'm always for having money because then you can eat up a tyler John. When you have that money available you can eat at the time of the contract for first round but she was just said that that was bad like three minutes? NS AGO now. I'm just saying paying him nine hundred dollars. That's on the fourth floor pick but still the thing is Stan and is for paper. We all noted for when when you get a kickback that's good but I'm just saying still when you look at the salaries then top for the top three players who Devon Devon Buckets Johnson and Ricky Rubio I don't I I don't look at that and be like that's crazy to me. I don't think that's Topley players being paid to be Devon Booker Tyler ties in radio but good point have no they. You don't have many options so why not keep the money to go get picks. I think I'm going to their salary but I think the rest of them in contracts they don't really have much on the books they recite. Kelly oubre but then I think is probably still take it back. I needed to get paid in a couple of years right and then yeah that's probably asses off the book by that time and then review and you go bro ship him. An airplane's is is a free agent season two and I think Frank Kaminsky sign for one plus one so they left their absence open they wanna to contract and then Wade draft Cameron Johnson. They'RE GONNA have to pay him. It was crazy thank Dario. I also got to get paid to rotate that they have this year could definitely just show a lot of progression even without Ricky Rubio Progression. We're we're having a number one overall pick like the Andrew Aiden who had a solid rookie year in his first year. You gotta give him another. He's going to be better. He's going to be better. He's just going wants to be better. I look at it we are that's not always the way it goes but we all know he's active duty bad one hundred percent yeah but why not get a player that help him. That's better means means when they can better league is going. Thank God was like Kobe. White drafted a garden. You've got him. That's going to be there Ricky Rubio. Whatever Berg is a game about chances I mean Louisiana Dude is known for just making his players better around what is passing ability and we have the veteran and they're like and what they're you full move veteran wing windows. It's still going to have a veteran point earlier. How Mike Otto Porter. He's like twenty six but he's not the kings have Harrison Barnes. He comes any places row right but he's they have the veteran. The wings have been in the League for a minute. They might not fit their time but there are quality players that fit their team and Rubio is a quality player. Don't fit the Devon Booker denies under eight hundred line but he's good now to help them progress as price. Give you gotTa pay you. GotTa pay to get those places are so versatile you can put hairs at three or four the guard position is so loaded in the NBA right now. It's like everybody's really. It's only a couple of teams. That doesn't have any legal. Ingo Steph Curry. Sorry Damian Lillard Carry Irvine I go on. That's probably one of the most when we did that that point guard this that was one of the hardest wanted to do and probably what so at this wasn't that hard hard whose goal was one two and three but that was a long list of Kim. I didn't even name Ben Simmons Kemba Walker like that. That's just the it is but I guess I'm fine. I'm fine with it but I just hope it works. I just needed to see what have been better regardless. I don't I don't because you were talking about just having a really a point guard when you say you have Devon Booker and you have a whole bunch of wings that can just initiate the offense to start off with but I think just ricky Rubio Ricky Rubio makes everybody better and I could just take that as a coach team for the young player and if anything he helps us teach them and the big question sounds last year was the point guard position and as they went on upgraded it because last year they have on donate meeting. Devon book is low management is written that he was taking because he didn't have a point guard and as you know but nobody i. I had no problem with what he was thinking. Nobody I've never seen anybody say. Devon Booker was doing too much or they would drive him into the ground. I just think that the talent level on the team wasn't there and I don't think Ricky Rubio answered that question to me personally if we're team and we're going into a rebuild or not even real because they have a solid foundation. Let's keep going and edit with guys that are going to be around here. That's why I liked when he went out and kept what is key forget. Kelly oubre and I like that they brought in Dario Saric. These guys aren't Brookies but they're young enough to just come in and fit with them and be a part of the long long term goal because that's the whole point. You've sucked this long for so long. Go Go China. Go get it. They try to set set on what they got because they had to do a science rate with Brooklyn and they just didn't have anything a trade away. That would have been perfect those guys whereas like we I don't I know now Dan Will Ricky Rubio about the partnership for a long time but hopefully it works out for now we could somehow in the future could workout you. If you look at in the same way they realize Rubio with edge way better here and they will be the year but he did. I mean Donovan Mitchell. I feel like they were decent. Beck where Mason are going to be my Connie Mitchell but I think Ricky Rubio did help him out a little bit. We gotta take our first break. The case says we gotta find who wrote this. No we do that. 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Don't Oh yeah I don't think so either when you look at the Phoenix and they just put them thirty seven wins they got the kings fallen by thirty three and I was just hardly see my kings were almost Khalil so as Ricky Rubio then Peck Dario. Maybe that impactful right yeah hopefully Dario. I I like just seem a lot. They kept the same team that we've seen leisure. They gave us day great season surprising and then they came across some guys that I I think can contributing the deadman's definitely going to help and it's going to stretch for Marvin Bagley and the rest of the team Trevor Rees. It is an experienced wing guy data typo decor that they like crazy backup. I think he's making like thirteen years of BECCA ACA in that is crazy. I mean he's a very he's a good backup though but now he's worth their team. Let them get a one year. Is it we need to. I think the bills off what they did last year for the most part they put it together last season. I think it just kind of fell apart after after the all star break and they're like they just ran out of gas. That's exactly what happened. Yeah I think what did they finish like ninth. Yeah they were close. They were they they finished ninth. They weren't after the break was way under five hundred but yeah they did. They definitely seem like they ran out of steam. They made the TRAE. Harrison Sabar is to go in and then the second half of the season after that they kind they struggle. They ended the season with three straight losses. They loss normal. Japanese detained young teams. They're gonNA droughts. What ages lose games where they go get it happens all the time and they they went on a couple of very nice win streaks? They were beating good teams teams. You like Oh man. They were always one of the more exciting teams last year no matter what you knew that the Air Fox is going to be fine with amazing speed but heald's elite three point shooting Bogdonovich has hit a game went on us last year he showed you so desire and then by Donald is being just like Jesus so who knows he may come back and just be they're starting small. Four ends is killed stuff so I've really liked this team. I really like this team. I don't know if they're making a playoff because of how competitive the West is no. They're going to be fun. There's still super young deer. Fox is going into your number three or number two when a year that he can finally start at least I pray that they finally get started minutes and then buddy. He'll maybe thirty years old. That's my that's my biggest question mark with same as how they're. GonNa use him. I think that's because he he he has the frame runs center. He likes working inside. That's why I think having to Wayne deadman. He could be kind of a mix because he could play inside but he doesn't always have to be technically the fact so I got at these advance stats and advanced people but it's cool to look at you. GotTa take that with the says right. He played a total of ten percent of his minutes. At Center in the team. Got Blown out by twelve points. Wait that was the point. Differential was running center. They could not score the ball in defensively. They couldn't stay in front of anybody the bottom five percent in the league when he was a senator. I mean as NBA BA player too I hope he just kinda grows more. NBA type body especially as a big just his frame should begin bigger. You should be getting a little bit more dislike no one position where to be would the soup positions in the NBA where like when you come in you're going to struggle as the point guard position and then the center position and then that's what you know you got somebody special that comes in as a point guard trae young came in at the point guard and play great or eight and came in as a center play great. Those are the two hardest positions to transition so a guy that normally pay POW Fort Collins. It's coming in and fighting with the biggest of the big. Boys is going to be a struggle but hopefully you expect him to put on more muscle to be more ready to fight those big guys. I hope they can read a mess center because I think his career projects is like a stretch center and it just works when they got Luke Walton as coach now need more development developmental coat so if that can work in their favor I I mean that's one for them. I forgot about the coach and saints. Get Marvin Bagley and I see Chris Bosh so I would like to be that center that meet their transition transition from wind. Chris Bosh went from powerful with the Raptors the Senate with the heat if he can be like that I think this thing can be Roy dangerous especially when the NBA going. Nobody is really playing a six eleven four right molasses Ryan Anderson Super Versatile who do yeah I mean the the duo between him in Fox and have buddy healed a wing I like Harrison Barnes Harry Giles. I want to see some things from house. They have a logjam of bigs. Now they signed. They signed them today. Saying that's a big man on Sean in homes. They have a log jam a big man. You have to figure that out because they do believe a Harry Giles who plays for the Gay Caleb Swan again from Portland so so yeah he's on the roster about any you who's going to be the fastest team as far as there's going to be a team up top with the Interfax Interfax. PG spot is going to be the Pelicans near. I think it's because they sue years ago without Lonzo without you. Know Zaire run in the break. That's what would what's your holiday on them. He's not really that fast of a player but not fast players but the kings will definitely be up there too buddy buddy healed surprise me Lebron's. I'm so happy that he figured things out because it wasn't really working out his rookie season off and then he was a part of the trae right. He's a part of the book. It's right you get some brand new start his first first year. Kita shoot the ball. ooh. No I take that back shit his first year Sacramento he saw forty eight percent from review but last year he's one of the best reports shooters in the league and it seemed like he likes corn was we always knew he could score the ball but he put it in at this like. NBA level like we knew oh he was a threat. Yemen's twenty started every game we play He. He's been ironman force career. Great Play Eighty two eight hundred eighty two games which is which is just amazing. It seems to bar crazy team that he fits. You got down five always going downhill. Now you have Bagley you have other the shooter's around like Bandana so long as they continue to play their brand base but I think they have a good mix. They have attacking guys guys that are gonNA play inside. They got guys. They play out. I think that's just a good recipe to have and you can mix it up. They got some size some length. The bigger point guard their pace is going to be good look wall and being their issues about developing these guys keeping up momentum to their last year. I think that's going to be seeing because you don't want to see a team. Take a step back after he had such a surprise because that can be a locker room flavor which is scary thing. I try to bring out the positive and negative. That's one thing that scares me. What if that was this a one year fluke. It's a possibility right that we looked. There was someone so much potentially will probably start some way. Unfortunately that's usually what happens. Guys come in any high horse. There's so much potential. Everybody's ready to play Lithuanian last year then they take back now. The Front Office is unsure guys and have that same gear. Do we know buddy healed is really one of those. Guys is the facts but he's got to get paid this season right. He's he's making four point eight million dollars and I think I think some last year deal yeah yeah they love to yeah the Kings fans deserve it man they deserve something has been a minute since they've been good and they wanna play birth and I respect that kings twitter it might not it might not come issue. Is this so much going on. It seems like this these younger teams that are close may not get there kind of Sappho. GotTa be close though or at least maybe even make you know about this. Okay around the Golden State Warriors. They're one of the most polarizing polarizing teams because some people don't have them in the playoffs and the some people like hey man of course this is crazy. I know but you gotta think of how many teams there's like. Eleven the teams competed for their playoff spot. Somebody's probably dropping out because the Lakers are coming in so people are thinking oh there's no Katie. There's no Klay Thompson for half a season so the warriors at a team Gas Gas Stephanie arrested three all stars on era so why would you why would they be the team to fall completely baser and now I feel like there is going to make it work in the mental screens. Cut You move like you pass like is not. I implement Kevin Durant that system sucks. I love the ball dominant. Not even hello can play play without. He played well. He could play anywhere. I don't think he worried about this especially Chicago cavalry but I like Willie colleague Stan I always ate. I can just picture him in mind. Doing Lives Still Got Kevon Looney Alec burks but I think just the core basis of Stefan Draymond and the end of the Russell and I think the fact that you don't have Kevin Durant near anymore. It's not you know. He doesn't take all so you have more on their on their ball. Muna what they what they did have they founded Harrison Barnes. Yeah they got there. He'd be there whereas they got eight south three guys in I mean after the kind of role player but and that warriors system already warped role players turned out somewhat solid just because all you gotta do is knock down your shot thousand mckinney much to me but on the warriors right when you add I remember I remember saying you honestly recco winter. Whereas I was like damn he could shoot the ball and it's just like when they're already so dangerous shooting you add more shooting as it scared so the Angelo Rossi thirteen percent has minnesota shooting guard last season and numbers were ridiculous now his numbers but like the team numbers when he was a long side so dan what he spent the day with Premier ballhandling. I do like the Russel's to his playmates crazy steal but I do like him as a tiny one but you know what Steph curry if they're not after moves without the ball he's the best one in the world to do so and when you got the initiate and also I think he is one of the best who's number two. He said he thinks he is one of the one of the best not because he's one of the best yeah. I wouldn't want to guard him on the moon without they'd say radical say red coming out. I was thinking like the reality is when you have somebody at versatile light staff who have the ball shoot from forty feet out and also you got to watch them off. The ball yet to Russell can have a lot of stop to work with. I remember seeing a stat awhile to go home and see if I can pull it up of like miles traveled with your running my top five think. Jj radicals was Jeeves have would've Zach Levine was four J. plenty of minutes this year interesting but JJ is one of those guys you know he's boom boom boom boom boom like people always say who's the worst player Gar. Jj's one of those guys so boom boom Abobo bought now but whatever playoffs there they come up to be immediate threat especially with Klay Thompson. He's GonNa come back better somehow. That's what he said he coming back. Yes you like the communists come back so much focus on their body. Jebara pardon me back but after the first one he got more way. I don't know how you got way more. I think it was to Clayton barely missed any. Are you say his is better because durant left. No I was thinking that Russell Westbrook's better because he guests smarter with the way he felt like came down the wetter no not that I get found his balance. He is a whole down he was talking about like the way came back down like when he ran not saying how he did that was Russell Westbrook. I'd say chain radio. He's athleticism thing on their roads. After the very first one the only thing about their role is that it happens somebody running thesis paper about this right now like video docu series him and it was him showing him training he was saying he had no balance like the injury that he was talking about the blessing the good about the injury. That's that everything so negative is that he's able to find balance on. His core is lower have even more more stronger was different things he didn't work on it was just natural but now that he's honing rose how he played before. I say he had no balance that does sound crazy that sounds absurd now thinking about anything because he was kind of like driving through the hall wild and everything he's just coming at you right right because I think about how Klay Thompson came down. I don't think he always lands like not. It was hard contact with Danny Green and he came down and his leg wrong. My requ okay so the thing that grows to do. I guess he's still does it where he rearranged. The Sassou does get blocked. If that was a bad to K- wise what would that be accurate. You Bet okay so by Acrobat. No Okay Z. Glen Robinson Third Ain't seen him in a minute interested to see how that is and I don't mean like he hasn't play. I literally just don't remember I just think Amari still go put together together with this thing. I literally think he'd be based on two point. Oh Jordan pool the rookie out of Michigan. He has a nice on the air inside recited shot as you sat aside as what did you say so klay. Thompson is dating some model was India is India competent under Klay Thompson Picture. It's like oh sweet or something like that and during a double date is something like this. I decided she didn't respond. Maybe em you never really know he. I keep days private. South sounds of Jordan Pool. Devin marble was part of a nice draft class with the magic when they brought in their all time score at I come on man. He beat his dad's record to see. I remember just a super stuff. That don't know that'd be a proud. They also say anti will be big on demand is the demand is okay. Would you do that too often. Mike was watching the football game or something then eight three players on the Texas. Ah Mike always talking about that'd be like Mike My name. I remember Robert My name him Oda. You remember his name That's how I knew Marcia because my my dad is. We'd be in a car driving somewhere. It'd be a that's how we got. The classic classic moment was the classic Maccabee so so Pierre has brother sat out to junior and we we we just talk about basketball and he says somebody's. Aj rented does red and black or white black. The people know what my guess what he knows as he knew and we all all our reaction was that name to black magic from that moment he knew Jj. WHOA now forget it forget. How are we to last seen anything else to say about the words how good it could be. They whimpered projection. Oh I didn't even tell their win. Projection is fifty one game so they're still they got them. Highest drop dropped from six seven which is mixed sense. Steph car steph curry. Come out and just say I think onto added onto this free agency that we had we ne- shit like that. We need like a revenge from him. We need the Brian and come back. It'd be his ship. We need drain on having a chip on his shoulder about AH disrespect disrespect he and the warriors have been you know he's reading approved. Worry they can win without Kevin. Durant Kyrie Irving had their bounceback season. Kim Walker needs to show that he's elite level carry dame the now China Bounceback Russell Westbrook a year Russell Westbrook so we have we have the story lines of all these guys moving seven and we got the rookies and Zanjan and then now we can also add a dynamic players coming back and show on smash it before before we get to the very last time the Lakers. That's just not change. Their hair. Color little noticed that right now. What do you call it. Don't say here's he said like the Jason in the honey bun honey I didn't they know honey. What did you say cinema line honey. Blah the color like it was some weird color but I was like okay description yeah we could put that okay like. Did you say you said that you know I said if they would've signed with a dyed my hair here perfectly or visit. I hit that one you think I'm sources prism awesome sonic multiple sources with this kind of skeletons in the closet with all the stuff that they've been through somebody co two Seattle was calling on black folk. I listen to the whole documentary thirty thirty Ramona Shelburne. It's a podcast. It talks about the whole sterling side what we're it because I never knew the details of it. I just knew that he was a racist ass. Just got that recording the voice it gets Kinda insane stuff that you see not like people just living. which is it changing because? I'm going to say right now is because his mistress mistress to a picture of Magic Johnson that he wanted to race Atari Magic saucy like he'd he would say he didn't even say the word hey did say minorities and can't be taking just crazy now. I had to Google. Let's see the damn minority to its anyway. We're GONNA take a break before we get a Lakers talk and lasts. It's certainly not least we got the Lakers man big off season for them. Big Off straight at their your current and their future for now right the current because no now in a little bit of future. What's that loop eighty twenty six so yeah that his some future but he's done players to play around right field leave he. I the only one that's the biggest. He said he returned home is not out the window. It's after Brenda coming to Sakata. He more focused on this year I before he think about anything of what if we did a sign it's rate with him coming to Chicago. Blitz got a hail which we sat Iran's Cristiano Felicio. You accept that and just call it a day infinite. They're projecting is forty. Seven forty seven million giving them fifty three wins yeah. That's definitely over fifty wins. You said you think definitely Lebron fifty one. I you hope so but did not very deep team up. There is just so heavy they can get them through. Wins scares me. That was the start line of Y'all is because I've I've heard different versions of the star Latin. I'm cope with resign Ron. Don't K- daily Green Yep the Bron Jane Carr Kuma and see the thing but he don't want to start so I don't. I don't know if I like MHM yeah. That's I would rather have Cuenca. I think so I think now but we do right right. Thanks so I think I would take him picking Rhonda. Welcome infringement but we think I would do. I put like beverly and Beverly Beverly Beverly Brad Behan every every breath near do that yeah you could have put like everybody. Danny Green Lebron cool with Brian James Anti David Star. I'm on the fan side of having Cochran off the bench me to think that having a ham as a spark off the bench and you can put them in different positions kind of mission mobile who is out there on the floor yeah because we put him in the starting lineup. Dinner Bench doesn't really have much scorn right but you know they do you take Lebron idea. He now has control the second unit putting Evac in detail because is there is not really a lot of people that give you that. Punching Bench Really Louisville and he can be next. You know you can be the skill to do what scares me most about them. If they star Calculus is that he's GonNa take the small defending position because Lebron is not going to be not only other guys best player in. I don't trust defensively your Lebron that four positions going to be weak defensively and yeah so that's what I would have him. Come off the bench Tobias Harris he just like it might therefore he can't play three but you perform any lasted. I played them at five begin to see I would go with with deftly Quinn Cook. Danny Green Lebron. Ad Jovial and you say Quick Cook for the Shooting Year Lebron James. I don't think he really need to have like ball handling responsibilities. What I do like is that they actually had a formula going into this off. The last year there was just signing. We addressed a lot of the things that went wrong last season. I mean yeah well. Magic Johnson leisures that they were making a defensive team right. I ended up being one of the worst defense top bottom. They have shit they. Have you know Jared Dudley. They don't have the face but they work. Wait on coups. Ma I mean the Brown Trey Dame's trinity shoot the hell out of the ball. that's the type of signs. They should've got last year look at his numbers. I'm glad you mentioned that if we if I had a list of what I think wrong with definitely we showed the shoot the ball we shall we were twenty nine to three point shooting free free throw. We were almost deadlines on that show for Lebron Lebron to the worst frequent as as a guard. Lonzo cannot be shoot nowhere near where he shot. I'm not even GonNa say what he shot. I mean we can ball was forty seven percent or something. I don't know okay. I look at the roster again. We still struggle this year with our free. Thurbers free throw shooter yeah. It probably won't be as bad but I don't. Who Do you trust second us to go to the free. Throw Line to put the game away. You WanNa put the Lebron Casey leading to shoot the ball. The free throw line very going through. They was also Quick Update Lakers received at one point one point seven me like disabled player exception for bogeys season and we heard that me and Mike set the same name harassment Komo supper jails because we we have an idea that s reunion another moment turned down yeah. We don't need another game. One moment from jail defined. I wouldn't mind it anyway regardless obviously that the reporter asked Jr slap do things sometimes they definitely could have messed. Would've they would've won but we wanted to best. NBA means ever when Lebron was they're always go down to the classic auto right after that we use on his whole energy is going on the energy would onto yeah thanks. I just dropped fifty chuck. The ball and you didn't even use you didn't do anything. They went ahead because they're probably in say. What is it okay. I won't challenge Koby. Those brothers Alfred Dot Com. I can't think of the word was ever the the ball so you mentioned earlier episode that I had a question between the legs which twenty across more to win the West to win the West Los Angeles Lakers man. I'll go with the clippers just because they're a deeper team clip and defensively when defensely the clippers got to answer. That's that's why I say. One of them goes down to have holes that they can make affiliate. You Stigma Lakers. Though is that Phantom or I think so oh for the clippers the Lakers are look. I think that the same thing just bear with me. I'm listening. I'm more interested. Teams have all the tools to be championship and turns the stars the role of the coach and everything into coaching. Hey Ain't low frank to good player runs doc rivers. They're both teams have with great ones. A Hall of Famer to have one has a very good coach alright coats but I look at the late I just look and say they all have the ingredients issues kind of they just do them in there. The clippers are more. They're just more put together and I think they've already. They're already ready but the Lakers. If if I had to pick somebody to put all of it together and be my chef of that. I'm picking the bronze Lebron good answer. I do like the fact that Moore Majorities Clipper scene was there last year and you're adding Kawai. You're adding Paula George couple of Landry. Shamet Loubier Pat Beverley Zubak mantras hair that that core team is still intact besides work out there. Michael Green even back shit like that and I like Doc rivers. I used to have in this type of nine hundred eighty used to Abe's had this he added with. I'm so glad he didn't retire remember. He almost retired two years ago. He was like off right before the season. He's a starter thing was about to retire got him now but he had the big three Boston. CPI Three Blake Griffin city and he has this. He has that experience of these. These mega teams new Frank Vogel is a question mark. I do agree with you. Frank Vogel isn't some laude if anything I would hope defensively he could you. We now have a top five star. Abe Rally at the one for defense. Whoever Doug says every practice I mean at the beginning of the season now says I'm Doc Rivers. I'm your coach and I will make mistakes but like I said everything I do is to try to win. You know I respect their name. One name on staff Squire Cower Kooyman is bad a little bit more feeling. Cao Kun is going. I think I got I got I think there's a lot of bright spots but his leaks and also all you wrap the fans that was crying season last year when he was making these podcasts and all of us saying. We don't think it's going to come back now. Why you take a saucer episode instagram and a couple of them was like y'all talked about the raffle five minute well. Something's is get the happy. Don't they want everything. I've never had problems with raptors fans. I have probably Lakers fans. thunders understands but not taking the kate. I provide some rules. Fans are annoying this account. I love him sinister as the raptors fan I love him. choose the first person. He said he said it's a wrap spicy Yakim year. That's a girl. The one I'm thinking about. Her name is Spicer's the opera. I don't know I have never ever clicked on a correct. I know you should have no idea I've never paid. It's so even if it is girl one love my boy as a CO verson. He has calories pitchman love him so there are some people but then few the whole family is of course is not diluted one one through five complain about a lot of it. My team won a championship undo the damage our nobody was worse than Lakers fans. I say that right here right now now in front of all forgotten experience exists fans crave mytalk five pissed me off. Nickname myself have a fan base. Is that that armor mentions that made me mad knicks are up there. Lakers thunder thunder nothing no pools and Celtics. It's just like the biggest markets then okay. See Your own team when you would. I like this. Your own team is fans. I WanNa know you because they think you have to always he's like be biasing. I've said shitting. Aren't you get to be stupid fan. You came up here and did a whole segment well. You just talked about all the bullshit. The Knicks have done over. This doesn't require kissed. Everything's GonNa be good which is really possible for you to have no wrong steps when you're working sizable impossible unless you're the warriors for the last three years bull a WHO's who made us up. I don't remember I don't know I don't WanNa headed Bu. I want to hear that that's just last couple news outy. You elsevier diffused tweeted therapy roads whoever to say he's going to have surgery. He won't instagram live. He showed his hand. He was like he was lying. He actually did have surgery. It has no scars bandages if you just had the surgery today but he's he tweeted that he's playing defense when he heard his hand so he's never doing that again. It's like you don't do in the first place yeah. Why is he doing that in like when he's not playing in the problem so he's trying to win. He was trying to start sputtering is Smith honestly probably CEPHALOPODA. It's going to be taught via Smith. He go pick up them. Maybe that was crazy. Magic Johnson talking about Kevin Durant Katie response and we'll take are- regurgitated Bush. He deleted that we didn't delete it. It was one of the best he's ever seen in history but he hoped he's happiness because he thought that wasn't golden state which Kinda agree with Katie Gray. Certainly everybody don't see you know so crazy like this is not just with the older other players but this is like in general people always believe that their values Sibi lined up with somebody else that was in a similar position like the guys will never Swiss cheese because back in my the values evolve like the players think differently now that they back the same thing like our parents. Are we think way differently than our parents do. I'll the crazy thing about this Kevin durant. Everybody is mad that he went. He left and now demand he left. Everybody's like oh he leave. I thought it was about wasn't we all I like. I want everybody yeah. Everybody knew leaving too late. You won't even know surprised by the KUWATA and we kind of knew them only talks in powerful ways of all time Tim Duncan Tim Duncan list. I'm nice because they go we do it says right here. The last part part is critical for this particular. He played a lot of center. Oh power for basketball reference tabs him as a centre representative minutes so that means Carmello yes dirk. Yes Barney honey category because there's a lot of people now. It's an it's all should know the two K. Card has always for its number one. No not no colleges Guy Dennis Rodman you own data's error era. We talking now. You gave me what he said Dennis Rodman for parents one of the Malone's. He's a white guy shoot it number nine by I pet bypassing pop headed guy went to Michigan base. Eleven man gotTa went to Michigan. He's knife Chris Webber Chris Webber jean-charles missile. Somebody also cute another guys. Watch the wizard wash cars always blue Jana. Oh that was all West on on sale now Dan this. Oh Yeah Evan as one of those guys are always forget a balanced approach rockets Maceio. Yes then this guy ahead Dolph Shays. I've never even heard of him. He played for the seventy sixers right yeah. I've I've heard the name of that because he was an six fourth fourth Charles Barkley our names third that makes sense seconds what somebody we haven't mentioned in Ja People Derek and in the Milwaukee Carmello Cagey. Oh I like Dirk I personally personally. I like easy to franchise goats are an NBA right. I'm just on the franchise celebration. Go to the inquiry. Yes Oh yes okay Kevin Durant James Harden James Harder ooh Akeem Olajuwon play for the side. I don't know about James Hard to just yet deeper. I think deeper pull up a tab of NBA teams so current players who are the goal of certain players now all later that had to be there have to be their team. It could be anything that's indoors. I team that they played for and remember they're not. They may not be superstars. There's right now but at one point in time they were a superstar. Vince Carter Vince Carter is the wrath is go up dwayne Wade but he just retired on okay. y'All name the bronze. Steph theft invents Russell Westbrook no named Kevin Alright guy just jaanus no now. You might be the best books outside. Oh Kareem abdul-jabbar playful books my fault give a sense organizationally date says no because WHO Christina about that Chris Paul Okay Organization as he just left off season organizations s he just left us off season buzz Milwaukee ever. It's another one later later Marcus Marsov yes. He's one of them. He's not the eluned too. I think this guy's last person Dake you'll conference conference. You always say nice things about this man. He's a big man because people be disrespecting. Come on think Lopez now. Thank thank people people disrespecting the big band that I'll talk about them but are they. Can you know Mike Sure No. Mike really should know right. Mike said No. That's all we got today. Hopefully you did enjoy this episode. We'll be back in a couple of days piece.