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Fresh update on "justin" discussed on KNX Morning News with Dick Helton and Vicky Moore
"10 70. NewsRadio Mutlu member is expected to be part of this demonstration march to the school district headquarters a little bit later today. Some other groups here taking part as well. They are calling for what they say should be a safe scientific, racially Justin fully funded approach to reopening schools as their quote it includes boosting online learning more access to the virus testing. All these free schools, nurses and counselors in every school and production for families financially impacted by the pandemic in Orange County, Seeing a decrease in Cove it related hospitalizations, the Times says. Over the past week, the number of covert patients in L. A county was down nearly 12%. Orange County have 19% fewer covert patient's health books, first around California, calling for better planning and the contact tracing. After the virus outbreaks and some workplaces. No, the county failed to pinpoint the major problems that a number of food suppliers, including the farmer, John Pork processing plant. There's also been criticism of a slow turnaround and getting the test results. You silly, epidemiologist Jeffrey Klausner says. There are some big gaps in the monitoring. We've done an OK job and be able to protect people. Nursing homes, the vulnerable and the elderly. But we need to do more, particularly with day workers and people who work in manufacturing or factory settings. People are exposed because of the type of work they do. We could do a lot stronger interventions in the setting. California has more than 1/2 1,000,000 cases and 9000 deaths. California has restarted its tax incentive programs to try to lure more film and TV production back here to Los Angeles, and early report out suggests that it's working. Even in the middle of the pandemic, The Times says. $5 million in tax credits has persuaded HBO to move production of its show in treatment to Los Angeles, and.
GoFundMe campaign raises more than $130,000 for Metro Atlanta high school football player who lost both parents to COVID-19
"Depend on its go Fund Me campaign has raised more than $130,000 for John's Creek High School football player. Who lost both his parents to the Corona virus. We were a regular family is trying to stay safe during this pandemic. 17 year old Justin Hunter and his parents tested positive for the Corona virus in July. He was asymptomatic but tells Channel two action news that his mom and dad passed away just four days apart last week, never raised me to just sit around and feel sorry for myself In any situation. Justin does want those who aren't taking the virus seriously to wear a mask if you don't wear for yourself, where for the next person because you could be saving our person. Jennifer Perry,
Fresh update on "justin" discussed on On Point with Juandolyn Stokes
"O k new center. Good morning. Atlanta. Here's what's happening. We are beginning to see an impact from the mitigation procedure is that many of the state local officials have put into place White House Kara Navarro's response coordinator, Dr Deborah Burns, says the Corona viruses in a new phase birth on CNN's state of the union. Said the virus is widespread. That includes the rule in urban areas both being affected. However, Burr says, steps to slow the spread of covert 90 no working in the South and West. We can see it in Arizona with decreasing test positivity. Decreasing case is decreasing hospitalization, and we hope that decreasing death will follow. The number of covert 19 cases is growing close to 200,000. In Georgia. Public health officials reported an additional 3000 plus cases yesterday, bringing the total to over 193,000 account in Georgia is the fifth highest among US states. The seven day averages around 3600 new cases a day. The governor is not imposing stiffer Coben 19 restrictions Brian Kemp signed an order Friday that extends current guidelines through the middle of August, He reemphasized a ban on local facemasks mandates that have been passed, but more than a dozen Georgia cities The Georgia War Congress center is being re opened to covert 19 patients this week Asked a number of critical care hospital beds dwindles, John's Creek 17 year old is mourning the loss of both parents due to covert 19. Rising, senior Justin Hunter says his mother and father died days apart last week after their health wars and quickly during quarantine. He urged people on Twitter to where a face best because You could be saving someone's life a go fund me account has raised over $230,000 in order to establish a trust for Justin. Meantime, South Carolina Congressman Jim Clayburn says there's no way he would return to the classroom if he were a teacher. The House majority whip and former public school teacher told CBS's face the nation There needs to be a plan to keep Children safe at school that includes a need for social distancing and masks. Students are heading back to classes in politic and Cherokee counties. Today, masks are mandatory for teachers, optional.
3-alarm fire at Salon and Spa Wholesale on Westpark in southwest Houston
"Of the day Friday. Assistant District Fire Chief Justin Well said the fire at the salon and spa wholesalers was a difficult fire to fight. At extreme circumstances. We've had extreme heat. We've had our water supply issue. We had a water main break during the middle of the fire to firefighters suffered heat exhaustion and were treated at a hospital. No one else was hurt, although nearby residents were told to shelter in place because of concerns over chemicals inside the building. In an exclusive interview with Wook I news, the head of customs
Fresh update on "justin" discussed on The Rashad Richey Morning Show
"When you have yours one day, all of this is going to be the best education you're ever gonna have. Do you think the chances are you're gonna be very successful. So those are those really grassroots lot of people try to put a lot of science. Yes, it's great to go get a business degree, don't amount of discount back from a great university or technical school. But those components are the key and I'm gonna tell you that's how we all started, you know, but those were never to be looked upon as that's a menial job. You know, you know, I was talking to my son. He's in Terry Business school, and he went out to one of our places of Florida. To the job at a mom and pop small You know, apartment complex on the beach. And I said, Dad, I want to want to get one of these. Okay? You got to go work for one of them. Is it weird that they signed me to clean up all the towels in the bathroom? I said exactly. You learn from the bottom up is one day when you're ready. You'll know so those Justin examples of of just the grassroot initiatives on how you know and you know, I know you're quick. You gotta go on to the next person, but That's one of the biggest things that Herman and I talked about. He's constantly talked about in his speaking engagements because There wasn't you, but I guess everyone tried but science but it really wasn't that big a science. It's just the communication behind it. And just knowing how to run a business is how you learn how to run a business. You've gotta learn from people. Who are we doing it before we have to go give people any resource is to reach out to if they have small business questions are what information on the nets around a stimulus funding or what's being done to try to keep some of these small businesses afloat during the current economic downturn. Yeah, well on the well put it like this. The pandemic..
Beyonce Drops Black Is King Visual Album
"Beyond just blew our minds once again, her new visual album black is king just came out on Disney plus and everything more. You guys the movie tells the story of a young king in search of his crown take a look. Breathtaking backdrops to powerful performances. Fiance stunning celebration of African. Tradition and beauty has old business shortage of famous faces but it's the Kata kids who really stole the show. That is creepy. Even dedicated the Labor of love to his son Sir and to all the sons and daughters who she calls the keys to the kingdom. And closed it out with a moving performance that you won't forget anytime soon. If the academy does not recognize this I'm making a promise here on air? I will bubble wrap beyond say Her in a damn box and ship purtzer France with were, they will recognize her greatness. Okay because we do not deserve her. was unbelievable the visuals to the costuming to the story all of it came together. It was so impactful and I honestly believe that went beyond say put this out. She honestly was like I'm going to show them because I was snubbed for that. Oscar last year homecoming didn't get the recognition and deserve. So I'm gonNA come back with something bigger something batter and make it more global. This is crazy. This is. Real Yeah Scott. What did you think about it? I've never seen so many different shots. So many different locations I'm GonNa back you up Justin one hundred percent this Oscar worthy. Yes. Coming out on the streaming service but if there's ever a time and a year to give an Oscar for something, it's releasing a streaming on Oldfield's right now big released on streaming services. So this is Time to Sean thought it was ridiculous on this. I would love to get the data from old tattoo on us around the world and the next three months. See How many lyrics? Bodies. That is a good point I mean to be completely honest with both of you unhappy happy. I made the show because I made the mistake of starting to watch it before I had to get ready I literally just kept extending the time and I still have forty five minutes to get through. It just has you hooked I. mean the Color Schemes, the costumes as you said Justin I mean that's just fall of it was just so mind blowing and one thing that I was really surprised by she shows so much of her family and when Jay Rolls Up, I couldn't Jay rolled up when. I can't I need a minute
Fresh update on "justin" discussed on KSFO Morning Show with Brian Sussman with Katie Green
"People died in the attack Americans This is the Fox News rundown. Now Look, a sports girls. Head coach Doug Peterson has tested positive for covert 19. Peterson, the eagle say is asymptomatic while out. His team will be run by Duce Staley in golf. Justin Thomas Tacoma 10.5 $1,000,000 check for winning the FedEx ST Jude Classic. Thomas will take over the world number one ranking for the first time in more than two years. Baseball for a personal best fifth game in a row. Aaron judge hit a home run for the Yankees and then hit another Yankees won their sixth in a row came back to beat the Red Sox 97 Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw made a season debut He missed opening day because of an issue with his back back in Beast mode on the mound against the Diamondbacks Sunday retired the 1st 10 hitters he faced. Los Angeles blanked Arizona three Nothing. Baseball's first ever seven inning double header in the major swept by the Reds against the Tiger Cincinnati won the first game for 23 The nightcap for nothing. Trevor Bauer allowed only two hits through seven innings. Tigers reliever Tyler Alexander tied an American League record in the opening game. He struck out the 1st 9 hitters he faced. First time in two years, the Oriole swept a three game series. Baltimore beat Tampa Bay 5 to 1. The Rays have lost five straight the Braves had of the Mets, their fifth straight lost for nothing and another loss for the Mets. Joanna suspect is missing in action Sunday The team didn't know where he was. Eventually they found out suspicious was not going to show up. He decided to opt out on the rest of the season over fears of Corona virus. After their Siri's in Milwaukee got postponed because of positive tests within the Cardinal's organization..
Big tech CEOs testify before Congress
"So, this hearing just going to say it, it was six hours of chaos. So. So many things like individual moments of pure chaos happened this hearing. But because every member of Congress was only given five minutes to ask the questions in and they moved on, no one could process the moments of cash. So here are some things that happened during this hearing. Jeff. bezos just started eating nuts on his call. That was just a thing that you started snacking for the first ninety minutes. It appears that basis had tech issues was operating in some kind of delay. So we didn't hear from him. They just answer any questions and they'd take a ten minute break Jeff. bezos could fix his computer. Amazing. Jim Jordan, who McKenna pointed out. On the show last week is always sort of chaos element. Try to talk over several members of Congress got yelled to put his mass back on floated. Just elaborate conspiracy theories. was when I say was chaos I. Don't know if there's any other way to describe it. I. Think that led a lot of people to think the hearing itself didn't accomplish its goals, but I think in many ways it did. But Kennedy you WanNa Kinda go through what the committee was trying to accomplish the themes they were pointed at in. How hearing played out, right. So okay. First off. Harkening back to last week I mentioned Jim. Jordan's mountain dew obsession. Definitely drink a handful those throughout the hearing I took notes in screen shots. So, I, called it. But regardless of their pores soda choices, there were a lot of lawmakers who definitely did their homework and I think that was really apparent throughout the entire hearing and when I look at. The picture that they tried to paint I think that became really clear in chairman Sicily's opening statements. So this is the guy who liked. And spearheaded the entire investigation from the beginning, and in those opening statements, he pointed out that yeah Apple Amazon Google facebook. There are different in a lot of ways and they exhibit anticompetitive behaviors potentially allegedly and a lot of different ways. But what they tried to pull together and was a story, and it's really hard to tell a story and five minute fragments. But what happened yesterday was Sicily. Ni, and a lot of the Democrats on the Committee wanted to point out that these companies they become bottlenecks for distribution whether that's information or just like APP stores marketplace's they control what gets distributed in how what was really key to the investigation was how? How they survey competitors. If you have so much control dominance over a market or a specific part of the tech industry, you have a lot of insight into your competitors and you can do a lot of dangerous things with that, and then lastly, after that dominance has gained, it's how they abuse it. Right? How they abuse it to make harder for small businesses in competitors and I think that's exactly what Cellini pointed out in the beginning and I think they did a poor job that storytelling throughout the process. But I think that's also our job. Right is to pull that evidence together and tell that story for them in a way that isn't like. Yes, no yelling at CEOS and like stopping them and I think by getting that in the evidentiary record doing all this questioning, I think they really did achieve their goal in the end. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing that happened sort of next to the hearing was that they released a bunch of documents from these one point, three, million documents of clutch. Over the past year, they released pretty targeted selection documents for every company showing some of this stuff, Casey, I wrote a story about. facebook. INSTAGRAM. My I'm going to frame this email or mark Zuckerberg. Literally one sentence, no period. The Andrew says I need to figure out. I'M GONNA buy instagram like I would love to just be in a place were sending that email like super casually like I got this thing to figure out and it's not like am I gonNa buy the model of the car. It's like instagram. I've been thinking of the text messages where so and so says that Mark Zuckerberg's didn't go destroy mode on instagram ever since they got that up. Case she this to Kevin and right that text was. Yes. Well, it was Kevin. System was talking to an investor and Kevin said to the investor. If we don't sell well, mark, go into destroy mode on us and the investor side probably. Of course, stray casual. So there's just a lot of documents and I think one of the functions of hearing was to get those documents into the official congressional record to make the CEO's account for them. That did not seem very successful to me. Is like a takeaway people should have from this hearing, right? No. I think a lot of people that go into these hearings are expecting like these big Gotcha moments and expecting like a lot of news and all this stuff. But it really, it wasn't oversight hearing. You know it wasn't. They didn't come. They came at this like in a report last earlier this week that they came out at as investigators. They didn't come at it to make a big show horse and pony show out of it, and yet I think the CEO's didn't. The record well enough to the extent that they could have. But there was definitely, I was expecting them to do a lot less evasion and I expected a lot less room probation with the documents, but it's just the process of a Congressional hearing. It's. It's hard to do that in a congressional hearing. But if you put those documents out there, you get the CEO's on the record a little bit who does excite this excites the FTC. J, and that's who can take this next and then it's also congress. You know they can't break up a tech company, but they can regulate going forward and it's those three key themes that I pointed out earlier that they could regulate. You know what I mean. They could legislate to forbid companies from surveying competitors and things like that, and that's where this goes. So the format of the hearing, every member and five minute chunks, it seemed very clear that the Democrats had some sort of coordinated evidentiary strategy, they would start and. And they would say, I, want to read this email to you. What did you mean by this email and then Jeff bezos would say something like I have. No idea is on works. I. Was real pattern that developed was basis really not doing or claiming he definitely knows claiming not really no way Wayne is under the thing they did or they would ask sooner Pichai about the very granular add deal google made by an ad product, and soon I, would say I'll get back to you, which is basically all responses. So the Democrats seemed like they were coordinated to move through their documents. The Republicans seem to be doing something else that also seem coordinated intentional, but what was their focus because that seemed clear split my takeaway from Jim Jordan who? We got into earlier, he he was interviewing. As if they were all Jack Dorsey. And as we talked about like, yeah, he invited Jack Dorsey to testify, but he doesn't sit on the antidote subcommittees. Anything. He says, it just doesn't matter. So it sounded to me as if he prepared questions Jack Dorsey and then it was like, oh, he's not coming I'll ask Tim Cook the same questions. Another completely crazy moment that happened just seen by and five minute chunks is that. Represented Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin Dear Sweet Wisconsin. Definitely. Asked Mark Zuckerberg why the Donald Junior was banned from twitter and mark. Zuckerberg was happening on twitter facebook and there was just like a moment of confused silence, and then he tried to move on and that just sort of floated by in the river of chaos to tell you how much chaos there was kneeling. When you started to tell that story, I thought you were going to tell the story about when Jim Jordan asked him cook if the famous one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, Apple Super Bowl, AD was actually about twenty twenty cancel culture, which is another thing that really happened. I think that's out of context. He didn't ask him. He said clearly, this is. That's definitely what Steve Jobs was thinking IBM is canceled culture and Apple's going to break it with hammer and Jeff. Bezos said that social media is a nuance destruction machine and all this crazy stuff from that. It was a wild will that that particular question when Jim Jordan asked, do you support the cancel culture mov, you could see the CEOS like. 'cause they went in order. He asks them all in order. So First Tim Cook just like basically muttered nothing. Here's like I don't. I support speech whatever. The iphone a keyboard like that was his answer. Sooner per child also, just like muttered, right? He's like Google has always supported free expression Zuckerberg like saw the opportunity and took it and the forces of liberalism I rising I, and then basis was like I cannot. I cannot do in like went for it, and that was just totally insane moment. But it also seems like the Republicans were intentional to try to create their own moments where they were yelling at CEOS about bias on platforms is obviously something cover a. At. You were paying a lot of attention that case you're paying a lot of attention to it. Do you think that was effective in creating because you know there's like a parallel conservative Universe Jim? Jordan was on Tucker. Carlson. Last night like was that effective or d think that the CEO's were able to sort of tamp down on interesting the Tucker Carlson pointed out that Google and other companies are all big donors to Jim Jordan another folks. So that is a weird side, but I think it was actually besides the moment where they mixed up twitter with facebook I. Think this was much more effective off. Off Topic yelling about technology than we usually see like are genuinely issues that like they are upset about that, they could point to largely around like cove nineteen misinformation and they could at least like pick those topics and stick to them rather than kind of asking vague questions about like, why is my phone listening to me? Well, they're definitely asked questions about why are my campaign emails getting filtered by G mail? Yes. I should. I should mention that they have really and they have all of these cases where they ask about extremely specific one off incidents that anyone who has used social media knows happens constantly. And, then turn them into a sinister pattern. But I think they managed to come off as sounding more like they understood what they were talking about the unusual. I think that was a real theme of the hearing, Casey. What did you think of this sort of bias side show that occurred? Well, I mean the the idea that conservative voices are being suppressed is foundational to the conservative movement and is behind the rise of conservative talk radio. It was behind the rise of Fox News. Now that social media exists, we have seen it in this new form, but it is sort of being presented as extra, sinister and worthy of. Some sort of legislative intervention what frustrates me about it is that much more than newspapers or or cable news like Mark Zuckerberg Dorsey. These people benefit hugely from having all possible voices on their platform. None of them is incentivized to drive conservatives off their platform. What they are incentivized to do is have rules that make the place safe and welcoming. So that people want to hang out there and so to the extent that there are issues on the platform, they've largely come because these platforms have rules. And you know you would think that a bunch of free marketeers would realize that the alternative to the system that they're so mad about would be creating a new system, but they don't seem at all interested in doing that. So I just sort of dismissed all of them as charlatans I actually thought it was interesting that the opposite track came up, which was the Stop Hey for profit campaign I kind of wasn't expecting that. The representative Raskin I believe asked facebook. Basically, why aren't you kicking more hate speech off. I forget who else asked like look is the point that you're so big. You don't care about advertiser boycotts I. Mean, you know it will here. Here is a fact that the number one complaint that facebook gets from its users, the thing that users. About. FACEBOOK is that it removes too much content and so if you're running the place, you do have to take these complaints seriously in a way. Right? It might not be you know that you shadow band conservative whatever that even means on social network in twenty twenty. But the fact that you're removing content is really upsetting people. So you can't dismiss that idea entirely, but I still don't feel like we're having that intellectually honest conversation about it. So this was definitely I feel like you can connect the you control distribution. We're GONNA show the abuses of power narrative. We got other. Democrats. With the you control distribution. You're banning conservatives right like I. Think what's Sensenbrenner Again, cups and conservatives are consumers to is that people don't realize that like fifty percent of the population in many ways. But facebook has like famous conservatives working its highest levels Kevin. We last week, we're talking about Kevin Roose keeps sharing the list. List of the most engaged content from crowd tangle. It's all conservative content, and that's so problematic for facebook that they're. They're pushing back with other metrics and graphs of their own, making the facts just aren't there, but it doesn't seem to be convincing. Brett Kevin is being asked to recuse himself from facebook case because he's like best friends with facebook I, AP I wrote a column almost two years ago. Now, arguing that conservatives were trying to redefine. Any conservative identified person having any unwanted outcome on a social network, right? So bias is your name was higher than mine in search results. Bias is used suggested that I follow a Democrat and not a Republican right, and if you take action on your policies that apply to everyone against me a conservative that is biased against conservatives, right. So and by the way I have to say this has been hugely successful because we've talked about it. How many minutes now and the longer that these discussions. Discussions. Go on. They just sort of refi people's minds. The idea that there really is a vast conspiracy to silence conservative speech because he's networks are so big millions of conservatives are having experiences like this every day, and now there is an ideology that is basically a religion for them to attach to, which is although Silicon Valley liberals are out to get. Reason I wanted to talk about the conservative side show, which in many ways was a circus is it feels like the notion that we should be punitive to the companies or mad at the company's. Bipartisan, right we were. We were not looking at a hearing where the Democrats were on the attack. Republicans are saying we love. Apple. We're looking at hearing where they were. Everyone was mad. There are a couple of exceptions to that. There were a couple of I think sensenbrenner and a few other folks were like look we want to be clear. Big is not bad. We just WANNA make sure we're not punishing you for your success, but you were like almost entirely, right? Yeah. I. Mean I. think that's it's important to. To capture that mood like Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg, Tim, Cook soon. Darpa, try they usually get to finish whatever sentence they start saying. Right. They're not used to being interrupted. Their thoughts are usually like you know they get to live in complete sentences and people take them seriously here in five in intervals, they were interrupted almost every time they started speaking to be told that they were wrong that they were filibuster at one point Sicily said stop thinking is for the questions. We can just assume they're all good questions. They. Were getting yelled at and they're going yell that about a variety of things that were pretty specific. So you kind of in your kind of structure here. The first one was controlling distribution. What did you hear as a hearing went on the indicated to that? The committee had a case here? I think the apple's APP store is one thing you know charging thirty percent cuts on certain things is just controlling an APP store. It's the same thing with Amazon's marketplace. They can inherently in control what gets placed and what gets sold and you know if they want to play with search results on Amazon, they can do that, and then on facebook and Google, it's not just like products and software that's information. And it could be information when it's like Google. Google. Stealing yelps, texture views right in putting those in its little info boxes in search queries in facebook if facebook is just like an. Mation, distribution platform and. It can decide Algorithm Mickley. Knowingly. What people get to see this bution was very keen to the committee's hearing yesterday and they pointed out different aspects in which you know each company exhibited that kind of behavior. So the one that will you bring up apple? We wrote about this, say there's much emails. Apples document production is just one hundred and thirty pages of unrelated emails and whatever order see it's like scan through it. So there's a lot of little stories in there. There's one about right to repair and apple realizing it needed to repair. By watching PR people operate by reading their emails journalists. Very entertaining. They're like we had a break like here's our strategy. Here's we're GONNA. That's all in there. You can look at it, but there's a lot about the APP store itself and how they're going to use the mechanics of the APP store to control their platform, and it started at the beginning like the first emails in this production from twenty, ten there. From Phil, Schiller Steve Jobs saying, are we GONNA? Let Amazon Sell Books in the kindle store. Store, it felt like I saw an Amazon ad was hard to watch this hard to watch this ad where a person's reading a book on an iphone in the kindle APP in the pick up an android phone keep reading. He's like literally like it was hard to watch like Schiller's at home like pain what a customer is having an experience that good it really just. Heart and so he's like it was hard to watch. You fours Steve Jobs. They're like we gotta shut it down jobs is the bookstore will be the only bookstore on the APP. Store. That's the way it's going to be everyone's gotta used to it. We know that restricting payments will hurt other things, but that's what we're doing and they started there in two thousand ten and they pulled it out, and then that ladders up into everything that we've seen with, hey, ladders up into the analysis group showing up to. Apple, can pay them to say that there's independent study has revealed. Everybody has a thirty percent cut. It has landed up into Tim Cook, forwarding. He gets a letters from developers that are in this direction. It's like apples breaking my heart and he just like Ford's it. Tim, Cook forwards that email to filter credit eighty, just as thoughts like amazing like they are constantly thinking about the APP store as a mechanism of control for the platform in the leverage and other deals. So the other one was apple is this Amazon one which I have very mixed feelings on saying that this is bad or legal I'm curious for all of your thoughts famously. Did, not have the prime video APP on the Apple TV and all these other places apple, Amazon came to a deal. There's an entire presentation in this production like the slide deck of how the deal is going to work. Apple got to be the preferred seller of its own product. So third parties cancel. Apple. Products, Amazon pages, they got. They have a custom by flow. They've custom product pages, all the stuff in return. Amazon got a lower commission on the APP store and gets to Selatan products which no. No like you can rent a movie from the Amazon APP on the Apple TV, no one else gets to it in one world. This is just pure platform collision, right? Apple cut VIP deal for big companies because it wanted something and you could say this is legal in another world. It's like this is how deals work apple something valuable. Amazon s something valuable and they came to a conclusion wherever made more money and quite frankly the consumer experience platform has got better. How do you read that? Casey? That is good and fair analysis of it. I. Think I did read slightly more scandalous. Tones into it in part because apple would never acknowledge that some developers are more important to it than others even though if you assume that that's true, I think maybe one of the things that's frustrating about it is there is no transparency accountability around which developers get sweetheart deals is that once you hit a certain threshold of revenue will cut your price. Why couldn't they extend that deal to everyone right? Or is it just if we withhold something that seems particularly valuable, we can eventually drag you to the table. Table, which is sort of what seems like happened here. I think in all cases, what I'm always looking for is the accountability, right like and some sense of of equitable treatment of developers and I understand the guys are always going to get the best treatment, but it can that be publicly visible. Can it be acknowledged and there'd be routes for others to achieve that same level of success and treatment, and that I'll just seems missing here. Did you buy Tim Co? He said it twice. It was obviously A. Glimmer, of sympathy for all four CEOS. There is a lot of reporting that they had spent months preparing for this hearing like being grilled there, they'd hire outside law firms. They. Practiced they all clearly had soundbites memorized in none of them. Got To say him because it kept getting interrupted. Tim Cook had this one where he is like if we're the gatekeepers, the gates are open wider than ever. We've gone from five hundred. APPS to one point seven, he said like. A whole speech. and. The thing is there's fierce competition for developers. They don't like our store can do for android the windows. For xbox and PS. Four. Which I was like the idea that adobe is going to be like we don't want to be on the IPAD. Here's PS. Four Photoshop is insanity to me. I'm going to build a spreadsheet. APP. For the five. That's how frustrated with Tim Cook. To that ring. True to you I. Mean, there's no, it does not ring true. There is a, there is a duopoly. In the United States when it comes to smartphones, iphones have majority share in the United States and you can't say, well, you know there's there's a rogue fork of android in Malaysia that you could go develop for if you really wanted to and have that come across as a credible argument to Americans. Right it is. Natural for any monopolist to spend most of its time, arguing that it is much smaller and much less consequential as as you think it is and they're essentially always asking you to ignore what is in front of your face, which is that they are the giant. They are in control. What they say goes, and it doesn't matter which small businesses get hurt along the. The. Way I would point out that the contact and we're gonNA talk about earnings eventually. But the context for that is apple had its biggest third quarter ever this month, their revenues went up eleven percent year over year, they're making obviously making billions of dollars in their services revenue, which is a lot of the narrative around the APP stores increasing that services line. Also went up. I think it was thirteen billion. So you're right. They're very big in their earnings the day after the hearing did nothing. To reduce that impression. I want to switch to Amazon a little bit McKenna. You really focused Amazon was basis first time up there. They came at him a lot about marketplace. How did you think that went I think it went pretty good. I. Think. John Paul specifically was just like killer her questions with breakout star. Yeah. She was just like killer and she's the representative for. SEATTLE. So this is where Amazon is right. So she just like killed it and. And I think there were a couple of instances in the documents and in questioning yesterday that really pulled important things out there was like testimony from one bookseller who was like, yeah. We just can't sell a category of books and we don't know why Amazon doesn't let us do that just like testimony like that or even when it comes to like acquisitions, the ring acquisition especially, I wrote about that today through the documents and how. They said, this is for market position. This is a for technology, your talent or anything. We just bought this and that's something that base said again, yesterday he was just very clear. It's like, yeah, we do buy things market position, which is like so insane just here like the richest person in the world. But like, yeah, we're buying market position. It's just what happens. That's another one I have mixed feelings right, and by the way, people should read McKenna story because those documents have just a very funny breakdown like the pros and cons of buying. Buying ring in many of the cons like what if this turns into nest, which if you're just the verge cast listeners like it's just like the Keyword Bingo, but it's fine to say, we're buying market position like this isn't the best product out there, but it's the category of video. doorbells is not huge, right? So to by the the market leader in video doorbells is maybe the most rational use of the money. What is the problem that you think the committee was trying to show an address sense of we're just going to market position. Pointing out, they can just do whatever they want and how casual it is, and there really isn't. It's really funny to read an email like that, and we could buy it or we could just copy it or are. We could just watch. You know that was one of the emails that base from someone. Those are just three options you know and it's like just pick and choose you know. Pointed out like a lot. Just that email itself really pointed out just how easy it is for them. They used a lot of that time history to talk about copycat behaviors and to talk about just like you know buying up competitors and it just seeing that all in one little e mail having to do with the ring was like really i. think it was really kind of I opening and especially like useful for the committee. So Amazon got hit a lot for the data collection side of it of copying competitors. bezos did not seem to have great answers there. Right. So that's the. The thing they got in trouble with this. There is that Wall Street. Journal article from like April where employees were literally like, yeah. We dip into data and we use that to guide our own private label products and everybody was like Whoa and Amazon basins. Yesterday said, well, we do have a policy that bans that but giant pointed out yesterday. It's like, okay. So what's your enforcement look like you can have the policy, but like if you don't enforce it, then it's like meaningless. And then yesterday I. Think Paul was like, can you give me a yes or no answer? Do you dip into data and he's like I can't I can't give you. Yes or no, and we're just like we're looking into it. The story had anonymous sources. So that isn't very helpful to us. You know what I mean. So that was one of the main things and that Wall Street Journal article and I think it's the same kind of examples in the committee's documents. They point out specific examples like car trunk, organizers of all things. It's like weird little products like Amazon's like this is a little hot. Maybe we should do that. So I, I think. I, think they made a good case yesterday. Yesterday on that. Yeah. I mean bezos brought up that Wall Street Journal, Article himself twice, and he was like, well, your policy against it. But I can't guarantee never happened. Then there is a strange just didn't come across clear I. Think I know what the committee was trying to get at their like US aggregate seller data when there's only three sellers and then only to sellers? Yes, I. Think what they're getting at is when you're down to the aggregate data of two companies, you heard effectively looking at individual data. What is the problem? They're like the I get what you're doing. You're just reducing the denominator to get to one, but like it, why is that particular problem? Right? Well, none of these. Dipping into individual seller data and looking at aggregate data. That's not a legal. There is no law. This is all voluntary of Amazon. So they have a voluntary policy where like we can't do individual seller data, but they say nothing against aggregate and aggregate what you're getting at eight. Here you is. Does the same thing if it's just like some goofy little product they. They bring up pop stock. It's all the time before pop tops in a moment. Right? There's only like one pop. So company like you know pop soggy, it was kind of an innovative product. It's like well, if there's only two of them and use the aggregate data, you you you have everything you need to know you know about that product line looking aggregate. If that's what you decide to qualify as do you as you're looking through the other Amazon documents and other stuff. So anything jump out at you is something the committee was trying to prove or get at. The questioning seemed very focused on. Like are you using the state at a copy products? Are you buying things? You shouldn't buy. There's one question which I did not understand why came up about DMC. Take downs on twitch and Jeff as just had this look of panic in his eyes. He's like I don't know man I bought Wedge because my kids want to. Do something like that was like the side show stuff, but the real focus here, it just seemed like it was definitely in the marketplace, right? Amazon, everyone came at Amazon for the marketplace. That's what everybody knows him as like they have all these little sides. They got rain. They got Alexa Alexa was one thing too. That was kind of interesting. It's like. Are you buying things like ring to put Alexa into and dislike expand your like Titan Ism as like an Internet Internet connected home. Thing and make that more closed off and walled gardening. That was one thing. But no, it was just focusing on how much power they have to kind of change. What happens in the marketplace to kind of decide what companies in what products are able to come up on the first page of results. You know that's also something that they dug into Google and in something that one of those like themes that kind of ties everything together. We should say they all spend a lot of time talking about counterfeit goods, and why is it Amazon removed? Fake stuff from the platform and how much is it profiting off of you know selling pick rolexes? Is it surprising? The whole foods didn't show up at all they're. Like that is a really massive thing. Amazon owns that. Is it moving into a huge new product category? I think whole foods is not an online marketplace, which was the title of the hearing, not that that restricted anybody from doing anything except that, one of the things Amazon says is we have lots of competition from offline marketplaces, right? Brought up kroger a lot I mean, this is the case he's point. They all made. It seem like they were beset at any moment. They could be crushed by the likes of stop and Shop Right? Like I think the point though was really on the. Digital. Experience Consumers have and like I, don't know Ho-. Foods fits. Into that narrative, especially, because it is itself not dominant like they bought it because you needed to grow in their. Good at that at my question for you on the Amazon stuff was when you think about, we talk about two thirty a lot right like you and I in particular spent a lot time to thirty, which regulates with the platform can do with content. There's not really an equivalent of two thirty for goods on store. Right like there's some case is out there saying like you're liable for what what happens on your online store page, but Amazon doesn't have that like second order of like Messi nece around it that twitter and facebook to with two thirty, I. Mean, it gets invoked a lot for marketplace's, but it's way messier. Well, I just wanted to like this question at counterfeits question about ranking the store like they are even more free than any twitter is to to sort tweets algorithm. Algorithm clear to modern like it just their store. Do you think that they're like that Algorithm transparency? Your wire things ranked. Did you catch a sense that that's where the regulation is GonNa go. So much of the conversation around Amazon really felt like it was individuals sellers being wronged for reasons of Amazon being unresponsive or stealing. It's data. So I don't know it didn't. It didn't seem like a really big focus of the hearing, but it is a huge deal. Yeah. The, digital marketplace frame of this, which is where we have talked to. Cellini. That's where he's going right like facebook and Google very digital. They have like they don't do physical goods. Really. Apple is the APP store. It's all digital goods. Amazon is the one where it's. Front to a lot of physical things, and that is the only place where I can see this regulation needing to make some sort of like major meaningful distinction in I. Didn't see it in the hearing, but I was curious of you caught a glimmer of it. I'm not positive that they have to make a huge distinction there like depending on what they come up with because. So much of this is about their companies and whatever product they produced. The issue is more or less whether or not they're being surveilled and unfairly by targeted and crushed by that data surveillance. All right. We have gone for forty minutes. We should take a quick break. I said I wasn't going to go by company and it happens. So we should come back and talk with facebook Ango. We'll be right back. This is advertiser content. When I say utopia what comes to mind. Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the perfect social body. Every Body Matt Place. Everybody happy now while the peacock original series, brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. A concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. I introduced the theory five hundred years ago. 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These are really difficult crazy stressful times, and if you're trying to sort of cope, it could be helpful to find something that gets beyond like doom scrolling and like obsessive worried. But digs into what is really going on underneath the surface, and that's what the weeds is all about I. Matthew Yglesias. Weeds podcast here on the box meeting podcast network. This is podcast for people who really want to understand the policy debates and policy issues that shaping our world. We've seen now more than ever like how relevant policy is to our actual lives, but so much in the news isn't focused on really understanding and explaining detail way if that sounds good to you, join us for the weeds, every Tuesday and Friday to find out what's going on why matters and what we can do about it. You could download the weeds on apple spotify or wherever else you get your podcasts. Tracy. When it comes to facebook I turn to you. FACEBOOK is patience consumer of startups as what we've learned. Yeah. But you said something to me yesterday was interesting, which is everyone else's problems are forward looking and it feels like facebook's problems are actually in the past break for people explain what you mean. Yeah. So when Congress is looking at any trust with respect to these four companies for three of them, it's It's sort of about the marketplaces that their operating right now with facebook, the question is much more about should we have allowed it to buy serum? Should we have allowed it to buy WHATSAPP and most of the antitrust conversation that was around facebook yesterday was all about that. What did Mark Zuckerberg know about Instagram, and when did he know it? We wrote a story based on some documents that the house released yesterday. In which facebook has clearly identified instagram as a competitor. In at least some ways and wants to go after it and knock it off the table, and so that's kind of where the focuses their facebook and Burke did get a lot of other questions yesterday, but it tended to be much more about content moderation and things that don't have a lot to do with antitrust. So there was weird section where they asked the face. Face Research APP in the novel, Vpn? Any kind of got lost well, explain what happened and I'm curious reactions. Yeah. So facebook has a bunch of nifty tech tools to figure out what's trending which APPs or the kids using, and so that can essentially have an early warning system if it needs to consider acquiring something or more likely in these days, go out clone it. and. So Zuckerberg was asked about the way that the company uses these systems and if they are anti competitive I, think you know traditional antitrust law probably would not say copying an APP feature is anti competitive, but could lobby written in the future about it shirt I. Think the one that caught me was I mean, this is what I'm. McKenna's points from earlier is like one of the themes here is, are you so dominant that you can collect data that's unfair and then use that to crush or killer competitors, and definitely bought the Inaba VPN to do it. That's true. Now, when I've asked executives at facebook about this, what they'll say is they don't get surprised anymore. When you have three point, one billion people using your apps around the world. You know what links they're sharing, you know what they're talking about. And so you're not going to need some kind of specialized tool to know that WHATSAPP is really taking off. Right. So they would argue that, yes, these tools were useful to them, but you know at their scale, they know what's popular now, which doesn't really seem like addresses, the problem is reached. The fact that we're so big that we're all knowing is maybe not the defense that they sometimes presented as so here's what I didn't get. I thought, Zuckerberg I want to the instagram. What's about who's issues, but on the facebook research front, the data front, they him about this APP facebook research, which you were giving to teens. They were deploying with an enterprise certificate that story broke apple revoke the certificate, and all of facebook's internal APPs went dark, and this is a scandal story after story about it, they went on for two days. So I can I, don't recall that APP? Just how he you know, he remembers the day that all facebook's internal APPS went down and people couldn't go to the cafeteria. I would agree I found that answer. Extremely, ed? Persuasive. that. Do you think that was like actually strategic for him to be like, I, don't know and then come back later and correct the record I do remember when that happened I. Mean. I really don't know I mean also you know during a six hour hearing, it's also possible that you just you get flustered or you miss here something or or something because. Yeah. As as you say, I'm sure he remembers the day that apple turned off their internal APPS I mean. Honestly. Seems like an opportunity to talk about apple's market power, and the fact that you know a day of work canceled at facebook because apple got mad. But I think most of the CEO's didn't go into yesterday a wanted to pick fights with each other. It was kind of sad that they didn't. I was Kinda hoping that Tim Cook take a shot at soccer burger. Point that the other two APP platforms I was expecting it. It was there. It was. There was all there. So cellini ended and he ended the whole meeting with closing statement. He said, some of these companies didn't get broken out. They all need to get regulated in the off too much power that some of them I. don't these breaking up apple. What sort of break. Right like. The division get sent into the corner thing about what it's done. Right. Does should spin out the finder team I've always wanted to. A clean is always that they want to. They want the APP store to be separate from the IPHONE. Basically, that's the thing I always hear. Can't break I. Think you can write some strong regulations but not playing you're on store, right. But like Elizabeth Warren's point was it's cleaner if it's two companies, but it's still a gigantic remedy that I don't think there's a lot of like like consumer or public opinion is going to walk into an Apple Cup I think you'll radio at marketplace. It seems very clear that we says some of them she broken up he is talking about facebook. I have a twenty percent conference level. He might be talking with Google and Youtube as well. But if he's going to say some of the need to get broken up like it's facebook, did you hear anything yesterday that supported that conclusion or Saudi stocks I? MEAN HE I don't remember which Republican it was, but he was like the Obama FTC looked at this and they said it was minding love. Obama. Right. Like. Why would we go back in time to relook at I? Mean, there is a belief and I mean. Somebody who thinks there could be a lot of benefit in instagram and WHATSAPP being different companies from facebook. And the reason you ask. So many questions about that acquisition as you're making the case that it never should have been approved in the first place, and so now you need to remedy it. So that was actually like the entire thrust of the argument against facebook yesterday. I think, you could probably make just as good a case that Amazon after spin out aws, but lawmakers chose not to make that case. Yeah. I think that also gets into. Politics of the acquisition of the time. To his credit is like nobody knew instagram would actually be a success like we made it a success. It didn't happen by itself. I, don't know if the lawmakers. By award, these guys said, but I don't know that he actually made that case very persuasively. and. Who knows I mean? That's like anything could have happened. Right? Cram could've stayed independent and rapidly grown and overtaken facebook like that's something that could have happened. It could have kind settled into a middle zone like snapchat or twitter seems more likely to me although I think probably would have been bigger than those two but. You're never going to know I mean it is true that facebook gave Mike and Kevin it instagram enormous resources. A lot of the reasons why Mike and Kevin sold was because running tiny startup that's blowing up is absolutely exhausting Mike. Krieger. was dragging his laptop all around San. Francisco. Because the servers were melting at all times of the day whenever Justin Bieber. Posted like the site stopped working and they really we need help. Finding a person who can quickly fix this? So we don't have to like that is the reason that they were entertaining these offers and wanted to sell it. So that is also thing that happened. Do you think that that same kind of argument or approach can apply to what's up? What's up basically did not come up yesterday and all the focus on Instagram, but that's the other one, right? Yeah, and we know weirdly a lot less about that acquisition I. Think it's because people in America just have so much less love for what's APP generally. That, it's never seemed as important. What happened to WHATSAPP as what happens to instagram even though WHATSAPP, is used, you know way more, it probably has way more engagement even than instagram does so I don't know why that didn't come up as often. We know there was a competitive bidding war for that as well. Goule. Wanted it as well. You know Mark Zuckerberg made them an offer, they can't refuse. Do you think everyday Google's we should've spent more money on what's whatsapp like this could have been solved. Should have, but Google has been placed under an ancient curse that prevents them from ever making the right decision about any social product. So it was doomed never to happen. It's fun looking through the documents and watching them casually say they should buy facebook dot com. Yeah, that. Point. That is how they talk like the window into these executives just casually being like we should just this thing or maybe not, or we should just copied ourselves and kill it before it gets any traction like it's repeated over and over again last facebook question. This one is like harder to parse because I. There's a chance, it's October is just joking around but. But. He's in many of these emails. He's like the thing about startups, as you can always buy them, which I think the committee thinks is a smoking gun, right? Like facebook's entire plan is to buy the competition to get the data from wherever they get it to say, oh, man, this apps popping, we just buy it and kill it before it competes with us. I. Think he actually said at one point. That's a joke. Yes, he did and I believe that you know it was two thousand, twelve, right? He was probably still in his mid twenties. At that point, the company was a lot smaller like people were joking around like there's more loose talk when companies are younger and I do think. It was it was part of that. I think the more interesting question becomes. Let's say facebook is telling the truth about everything. Let's say they thought it was going to be a successful acquisition, but they never knew it was gonna big as it became today and they invested in it and it got super big. Okay. Well, now, it's as big as it is. Should they be allowed to keep? Keep it or should they be forced to spend it out and if you're GONNA force them to spin it out. What's the argument that you'RE GONNA. Make about why one question that I have a lot is clearly the referral they're gonNa make, and it seems like if you don't have some other reason, we've heard hints that there's some other reason, the FTC scrutinize this that will eventually be revealed. But what you're saying is the antitrust standard at the time, the Consumer Hartman stand, which is still our standard. Says, you have to prove prices will go up both products for free. You're screwed. Right? There's nothing to review because you're not gonNA prove prove that free products are gonNA get more expensive. I think it's pretty unfair if you change the standard and you go back in time and say you missed that standard. So I think there has to be something else there. Well, what was the standard by which at and T. was broken up? Right? Like presumably at and T. didn't used to be that big, and then it just got really big and then they broke it up at least. That's the thumbnail understanding I have of that break-up. Well, yeah. But then reformed itself. Right. But because of lax antitrust regulation, right? Like it wasn't a naturally occurring phenomenon that all those APPS got back to the other or was that just sort of like inattention to capitalism It's like in the seventies and eighties. This is Tim moves book the cursive bigness in the seventies and eighties Robert Bork I can't talk about Robert on this podcast. Are we doing this right now. Robert was very influential judge Appellate Judge Federal Appellate? Judge. And basically moved the antitrust law to the consumer harm standard as part of a movement called and economics. A whole thing Robert. Bork. Mostly famous because he was not appointed. He was nominated Supreme Court by Reagan but they leaked video tape rental history, and then he didn't get nominated and that is where the expression getting bork's comes from. This is all true Netflix's still has to abide by videotape data privacy act is a whole. This is all true when facebook and Netflix had some partners, Nansen? Partnership. To. Automatically share your net flicks, watch history to facebook. They're like pending the change of this law which we are working on Robert Bork. He haunts us all. I'm sorry, I can't believe this much. Yeah I. think that's just like the law changed in the in the seventies and eighties, the standard change. The conversation right now is a very much about changing it back months and months ago, pre pandemic, we had an economist from I. Think it was Nyu Thomas Philippon came on the show, and he was like look you have this natural ab test going on in the world where the European Union when it formed was like, how do we get an economy like America's? So, we'll just take their competition policies pretty good, and at the same time we changed consumer harm standard. So everything you're seeing the EU is basically our old competition antitrust standard in. You can see how active they are in everything. Here's a new consumer welfare standard. Whether you believe, this is actually a functional Ab test given. The state of both governments is up for debate, but that was his point I thought. It was spare can say.
Ariana Grande and Lady Gaga 'Rain' over 2020 MTV VMA nominations
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U.S. Is About to Unveil the Ugliest GDP Report Ever Recorded
"Today on the show GDP GDP stands for gross domestic product and it's basically a sum total of all of the goods and services that the US economy produces. It's often considered to be the measure of economic growth. Yep. GDP includes all the cars, an air conditioners in shoes and haircuts Uber Rides, and fish tacos and pedicures that the country is producing and buying. And so atypical GDP growth number is like two percent a year or maybe a really great year three percent. It's like soccer scores they never it never gets very. Stay pretty low and that's because the US economy is enormous. So even when a lot of things change the GDP needle doesn't budge very much at least it didn't used to. That's right. The GDP numbers came out today and for the months of April May and June that's the second quarter. The US economy grew at an annualized rate of negative thirty two point nine percent that is today's indicator negative thirty, two, point nine percent and I have to see if I saw this number I was like our economy shrank by thirty three percents I mean that is a third of our entire economy, right? I mean that can only happen a few times. It was really scary. So I called up Justin Wolfer as he is a professor of economics and public policy at the University of Michigan. And I was like wait a minute is the US economy like one third smaller? Did we just lose a third of the economy and so did we lose their economy? In. Okay. Okay. It turns out the way that Americans report the GDP. is a little more confusing than you might realize. What actually happened is in the second quarter, we produced nine and a half percent less than we did in the first quarter. You might think we should report that as a decline in GDP of nine and a half percent. Yes. What we do instead is we say if we continued to plummet at that right for an entire year. At the end of the year, how much lower would GDP? That's what thirty two point nine percents. it says if the economy kept declining at a right of nine and a half sin quarter after quarter after quarter after quarter four quarters later, a level of output would be good. Two point nine percent lists now that's unrealistic. This was the worst quarter. Probably. In American history. So. Yeah. Let's say you do not try to extrapolate for the whole year. Then what you're looking at is that in April May and June the economy shrank by about nine and a half percent from the first three months of the year, which is way better than an economy that shrink at thirty, two point nine percent. But. That number still makes April May and June. The worst three months in the history of the US economy.
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Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.
Hingham Firefighters Union Refusing To Take Down ‘Thin Blue Line’ Flags near Boston
"We're going to go to Hingham, Massachusetts. If you live on the South shore if you live on the South Shore. Um You have much to talk about tonight. Basically The South Shore, the town of Hingham. Is probably one of the nicest towns on the South Shore. It is certainly I think, one of the wealthiest towns of the South Shore Apparently a single complaint. By one citizen if I am to believe the Patriot Ledger newspaper, which I do believe Complained about what's called a thin blue line flag won't atop fire trucks in him. Now, for those of you who do not know what the thin blue line flag is. It's a flag that takes the American flag. Aah! And basically Um The red white blue are hushed or eliminated so flag of a black and white with a thin blue line, which obviously is intended to pay Tribute, Tio our first responders. And Was specifically purchased. By the Hingham Fire Department. Ah, too. Show support for the police department in Weymouth that lost Sergeant Michael Chestnut back a couple of years ago in again one of those Police shootings that you would not expect to have occurred in a community like Wayne that there was an early Sunday morning shooting in which The officer. What was approach someone who was acting pretty badly and in an effort to calm the guy down as I understand it, the The individual picked up Iraq, fired it at the head of officer Chestnut, standing him and then took out. The officer's gun himself and killed officer South Sergeant Michael Chestnut. There was also a woman in a nearby porch was simply sitting there, reading her Sunday morning newspaper who was also killed and I don't know if She was killed in a random shot or if she was killed intentionally that will all come out and quit anyway in nearby Hingham, neighboring Hingham. Um, the authorities there. I guess the select people. As well as the fire chief and the police chief told the Fire Department that they had to remove the thin blue line. The flags from the fire trucks now. The these, um flags, um are black and white versions of the American flag with a single blue line at the center. Ah, I have no idea where that is standing tonight in Hingham, But it seems to me that it was a mistake. Now, apparently. The individual who called with a complaint with one single citizen felt that the blue the back the blue themes and the Again and hear the thin blue line flag somehow. Um Offended the Black lives matter movement. Now it seems to me that it is entirely possible that someone could be sympathetic to the peaceful aspirations of black lives matter. Which which would be to have everyone treated. Equally and equally fairly by police officers and never again have what happened either to George Floyd in Minneapolis or Briana Taylor in in Kentucky. Happened again again in a big country like this. Will there be another incident? I'm sure sadly, there will be But The two year anniversary is, according the Patriot Ledger of Sergeant Chestnuts. July 15th 2018 Death an anonymous person Placed about 500 small, thin blue line flags on brain tree's town common near town hall. The flag spelled out the words spelled out the words. Thank you. But after talking with the mayor, I didn't even know that thief hanging ahead of me. And I thought, um, I thought him was a town. But that's what's reported in the In the ledger of the flags were removed from town hall to the Braintree Police Department property where there is a memorial for fallen officers. This is upsetting to me. Ah, I hope it is upsetting to you and I hope that you will Call and and express yourself. Um, this this is wrong because you now Not you cannot. You can express support for black lives matter. But if you would you express support for something other, some other cause. Again a back the blue cause somehow your Expression of supporting the police. Can be eradicated again. This is the cancel culture that we're dealing with in this country right now. Can't according to the ledger, one person, one person made a phone call. And the the officials in Hingham rolled over Now, If that story is changing, we did reach out to him to Hingham officials today. And of course, we had no one who would have the courage to come on and explained the rationale, but From the Um, from what we have Red Ah, the town statement was the town of Hingham has a long standing practice of Onley displaying official flags of the nation state town in military. As result when we were made aware of a banner being displayed on a town asset, I eat a fire truck that was inconsistent with this practice. We ask to be removed. Pingan firefighters Local 23 98 took to Facebook to make clear that displaying the flag of the on the anniversary of Justin's death was to support the law enforcement officers who put their lives on the line every day. And wasn't no time meant to be a political statement, while the members of local 23 98 or not pleased with the decision to remove the flags will continue our unwavering support for all the men and women of law enforcement. Who bravely protect their communities Day in and day out, So
Justin Maxon on Leading & Thriving as a 3rd-Generation Business Owner
"Well Justin thanks for coming on the show. Welcome to dose of Leadership Hey. Thanks for. Having me on. I love talking to young executives. Particularly in senior leadership roles I can relate to that I. Mean I think when I was about your age and your thirties that correct that's correct. Yes, outside of the Marine Corps I was. Getting a lot of accountability responsibility, but in the business world I was given a tremendous amount of my thirties in them, so I can relate so Was it? You ended up at NCRI and got to the senior position as such a young age. So the company in Sierra, national catastrophe restoration actually started. In nineteen seventy two, so we're going on forty nine years old and the founders of the company are actually my grandmother grandfather Oh cool so I was born into this. If you will plead in Sierra, blue in kind of a came along grew up in the company, so no one in the in the INS and outs of restoration and knowing the INS and outs of. Being being a leader is something that was groomed to do from from day one. Love, those stories and you know that the family owned businesses gives. The following rations, a tremendous opportunity that being said it certainly presents itself. What's unique challenges as I I? Can Imagine what what are some of the challenges that you faced again? Being being young as you are, and a family owned business right I mean there's some challenges there. Absolutely double jeopardy. They're. So being being a family member and being a young executive absolutely has its challenges I on the on the young executive portion. Of the big things, not only four with employees with our clients I think is that the the stereotype and specifically in our industry respiration reconstruction stereotype that. Equals experience. The what I've tried to do is really a kind of break that barrier and make sure that individuals employees and our clients understand that you know really knowledge. In your in your particular craft and in your industry, and your profession is what equals experience. I love that answer in. You're right. I think that I've I've trying to think of a couple of times I've coast couple of individuals who were in that consume spot that you were right and. One of the pitfalls that I've seen. In my experiences with the family owned businesses and someone that's young is the the inherent cynicism that you get from your team members right, and when you, when you feed off of that inherent cynicism, which is GONNA be there regardless of not no matter how good you know, no matter what type of leader you could be the best leader since. Gandhi or whoever? You're you're going to be faced with that. kind of inherent cynicism right. Yes, absolutely so. Yep being being a family member has even own set of challenges yet, but I think especially being third generation I think the statistic for third generation is as soon as their generation takes over. That's when the company takes a dive. So no pressure, no pressure meaning. No pressure compressor, so you know so big focus for me. has been the go against the odds. Yell? Don't be a part of that statistic and but to do it in the right way also not just to. Try to approve its the continue on the legacy. If you will the company but then also build on the exceptional Nissim that know the exceptional. Base that we've had over the last forty nine years, so that's that's really kind of a drive for me. In the reason that I wanted to get into this reason I'm still in it today. Yeah, love that answer and you can. I can tell from you know part of the solution to kind of. Challenge that you've been again that you've been faced with nothing you can do about is to. Approach it with that humble teachable spirit that I'm hearing from you right, and to appreciate in the awareness of the uniqueness of. The family business and what I also hurting your answer was you completely understand that you're standing on some pretty significant shoulders, and you better not screw this up right which I love that that's yeah. I love that kind of That humility I. Guess you know what I mean. That's what I heard from your answer. What do you think when you alive? Yeah I appreciate I present that if you could make a phone call into a few family members later and with the no. That would be fantastic. I mean you know every day? Within its no matter, the size of family business they're they're presents its own challenges you know it's unique in in our industry with the rest racing industry like I said with the age stereotype so. Every day is a new challenge. in all I can do is ask that Each for ways in each our clients continue to trust. What we're building in I continue to you know what I continue to bring to the company and what I'll continue to bring. Over the life of the entity in the legacy that in Sierra breaks so
What Are You Plaing
"Let's begin with. We've been playing and I. Think we're all playing. Go Sashimi. Now. Justin. You started it. Seemed to have lost. Yeah, did start it I really like it, I'm the art direction that game. Gone. Back will not allow you back in my here. Realize yeah. I'm having a few Internet troubles today, so bear with me, please yeah I am playing ghosts That game is beautiful. My two favorite things are. Are Composing the high coups I think is really good, and and actually really like reflecting in the in the hot springs as well where it's like do I. WanNa reflect on my father or my uncle in the provides my character motivation to go out and Chop Mongols heads off. It's a very you saying this last week. Damon it's vague video. Gamey game It's very. It's not really you're exactly right about the last of us. It's not really each trying to break now to do a bunch of crazy new stuff, just trying to be a fun open world game feels like a game that sort of plucked from twenty fourteen, and dropped into twenty twenty, but with twenty twenty lake sorta visuals graphics. Yeah. I think that's accurate. I think could talk. You had an article yesterday where? They showed the Haiku that they wrote in their game to a real Haiku writer and they were not impressed. No! Yeah I misinterpreted that system by the way because I initially thought that. If you picked one sentence, it would, it would give you like it's totally separate option to trickle down towards that effect, and I just mess it up, and I ended up creating like a random Haiku by the end of were totally did not track with the system I thought it would be, but it was still a lovely by the end of it I thought. I were uses the game engine to like show. You something really beautiful. The like you just realize like how amazing that open world as you can see like. Oh, they set the time of day. They set the light right. And then it's like this trickling stream of water, and then like the sunset, and then like relieves rustling. The trees like those are just like open world shots. They're using their that. You just chose in real time. It's amazing. That's like one of the best examples of how you kill that world can be. Yeah, so I've been playing for like two weeks. I'm still I'm still enact one. So I don't know I. It's just a really really big game where. Sam where you guys. Also still enact one. The map is huge, and it gets bigger apparently, so yeah, there's a lot of game in this game. Yet I'm and three. Out Don't the. One like really obsessed with uncovering the map so I've been doing that a lot and then I like kind of go through the main class, but been playing so much I got this thing recently, which is really frustrating, it's it's a thing that you have to. Basically chain kills with. You cannot get hit, so it's like you. Could you know kill three enemies? Enemies, and then five minutes later killed four more enemies, or whatever, and then it's changed. You get to use this ability, but that's like the one thing that if you just slight interruption from like an Arrow off screen, our dog, biting your or whatever it screws it up, and for some reason, it's like all I think about now and so I have to like. Assessing over it, and and it doesn't even give that big of a reward, but it's something that really changed the way implying recently, which is funny, also manage the game. The way of playing is i. got the kick and the kickoff. Is You just kicked? Off like this and I love that so much. Yeah that's the best Are there a total of three acts or they're more? Castle Vania. It's like you do do do do do do do and then there's the boss, and then there's the next castle castle. And an are, they asked about similar length seemed like. Yeah and they're similar area sizes to the second man when you could just the second one like I was like I'll take some time to see like. How different can they make these maps 'cause? There's the first ones really varied. There's just a lot of environments in beauty to be had just wrote across it, and it took me thirty minutes. The second hour, That's off. It's crazy. Yeah, it's really really cool just to go out and explore. Yeah I love it. It's you know I like I said even though I've been playing for two weeks. Act One, but it might end up being my favorite game of the year so far so now mind, I'm having I'm having a the conversation A. Comparing it to the last great open world game that I played which is assassin's creed Odyssey, and I'm like well I don't know. I don't know which one I. Like better right now. I think. They both have really really beautiful world. I liked how you're traveling the season going to different islands on sesame street odyssey stealth mechanics are much more involved so i. don't know we'll see how it shakes out there. Then the other game I keep comparing it to my mind is breath of the wild because I really wish ghosts of Sashimi had a hang glider.
New York Police Clear Occupy City Hall Encampment, Mayor Says ‘Health And Safety Issues Were Growing’
"After the city Hall Park encampment was dismantled. Protesters marched to City Hall, but we're forced to disperse when met by police not occupy city Hall. Protests that went on for a month no longer exists after police staged a predawn operation, clearing everyone out. Able to use. CBS reporter Steve Burns described a scene about 90 minutes after it was over over What What What had had had had been been been been an an an an encampment encampment encampment encampment filled filled filled filled with with with with people. people. people. people. Tense Tense Tense Tense signs signs signs signs is is is is now now now now just just just just an an an an empty empty empty empty plaza plaza plaza filled filled only only with with graffiti graffiti over over pretty pretty much much every every available available surface. surface. Sanitation Sanitation crews crews methodically methodically put put everything everything into into garbage garbage trucks. trucks. Now Now getting getting to to work work on on that that graffiti. graffiti. People People in in the the encampment encampment woke woke up up right right around around 3 3 32 32 police police wearing wearing helmets helmets with with shields, shields, telling them to get out or get arrested. NYPD chief of Operations race, Bonilla says it went smoothly. We felt the time had come to end occupation and allowed cleanup crews to begin the proper process of removing the graffiti. He says. They gave an advanced warning of atleast 10 minutes. Demonstrators here tell me this is direct evidence off. What they're protesting. What we saw here today was nothing short of No freedom. No Justin. The NYPD tells us seven arrests were made outside City
Shea Diamond: Why Music is a Tool for Trans Liberation
"I'd like to start with your song. AMERICAN, Pie! I love the framing of it that you're talking about living truthfully and framing in terms of the American dream. Can you just talk about the song and what you want people to take away from it well, the thing is you know I just think about my life and my experience and just like and just. Just the many people I've met throughout the years I mean I've met a whole lot of people throughout the years from state to state running I feel like a state running from state to state. Trying to look for that place where you can find that freedom trying to find a place where you can be, you know everybody find wants to come to Hollywood. Everybody believes in that dream of of that they can do something they can do this thing and they have this dream whether it's so small as to have. House, with a picket fence and have a sickening piece of trade at home. You know that's that you can put you know your your feet on his bag and he says now. Let it rest. They're a little bit. What other situation is I mean? We've lost a the ability to dream because people have taken that away from us. They've told them us because we're queer. Because with this because we're black, because we're trans because we're gay, because the with this because we're fat, I had a dream since I was small, and I was told I cannot assess that dream, because first of all I wasn't a girl. I believe harshly. That I was female. So I've been fighting, society. Since my very existence that's gave giving society gave me my script and told me Oh. You know you're not a girl. And you came into this world. This is who you are, so they gave me a script in order to go by in refused to go by their script. Now we all came here but naked. We came in this world nude I came into this world wanting. Always wanting and I still want and who's going to say my want is not a need and I think about my existence as a trans woman, and I would not want to go back and be and uncle, because I started off gender non conforming. We started from these experience. I started as a gay man boy. Whatever you WANNA call it gay bodied person. Queen. They in Trans. Now I am a woman. I Want Society to. Adjust to that change. Trans people are who they say they are. Not who you want them to be. And when you put it in terms of that framing an as the American dream, I'm always looking for ways to sell trans acceptance for lack of better words, and that makes it hard to disagree with. Well I feel like we should never have to to sell like it's a sprite and say look. It tastes good. Feeling. Oh, I mean sell in terms of acceptance and passing laws to protect. Do we need to de Criminalized Being Trans? We're always going to be the person to be objectified in cages locked away pointed. Ridiculed spectacles. They look at us as animals if we're not sil. Sila viral silver. Some ways I cannot save for. Silver, civilized, civilized, civilized, and I guess I haven't had to say that word in a while because I've never been considered civilized. Has that been consistent in your life? That's been consistent in my life. You understand where I come from. What if the world change? Our social construct had changed, and you were told that like a black and darker with superior. How would you navigate? Would you be the same person which would be the same joyful person with the experiences that we have experienced to one day? Have your foot in our shoes people in society. They know what's going. We pretend we act like we don't. And we pretend like we want to make a change, but we really don't. What is white privilege? There's no such thing we've been given that script. And we've just adhere to it. Time in time out, and we have not then then. We don't go to this thing that all people are equal. We had to find somebody better now after we've realized that why people are in better now, black people have to be better. Somebody has to be better in order for somebody to be lesser. Somebody has to be poor in order for somebody to be rich that we monopolize off the things that's happening in this world, so we can look at the the Trans Women in their experience or people in their experience, and no, that's not us, and there will never be a weekend hold I hit up high and live safely navigate in. In this world, and these are all things that you sing about pretty directly in your music. Have the label or producers asked you not to do that so explicitly and do singing about other things well, you know I, have to be honest with Justin Justin is a visionary Justin transfer he is, he is a visionary. He had the people like we were another thing another labor one. It's sign. And the whole thing was. They wanted a lighter music they did. They wanted lighter music. Happy Music. Let's radical music I. Now there. They wanted to sign. They wanted a younger person. Another one wanted to sign. They just like we believe her story is just. It's going to overshadow the music. So, they believe that because I had a freaked up life and I survived that and I'm live in to tell my story in order to in order to encourage other people that they can survive the dare experiences, because because I'm not the only one that experienced things and I don't want people to think that I'm not a victim. I am a survivor and so to my music. I want to encourage people that you are survivor
Kanye West's First Campaign Rally Takes Wild Turn
"GotTa talk about. He had his first presidential campaign rally yesterday in south. Carolina and he got really personal and even Clyde after saying he tim considered a boarding. North here his speech. One. took. Appears to be going through a tough time right now, and we'd imagine can is as well Is it ever appropriate to talk about something like this publicly? Oh Man Okay obviously I. Watch these videos yesterday and just watching it again. It's really a lot more I mean I think yesterday. I was really experiencing shock and today. It's really heartbreaking, and you just want you sort of wish. This didn't happen for Konya I'm obviously a massive fan I'm sure we all are just to see him when he kind of. Goes on these tangents. It's just like you just don't we don't need to. It's okay. We don't need to know this kind of stuff so. It's just unfortunate all around to the honest with you. Mommy a lot seeing this yesterday obvious, sit down interview about a year or so ago with David Letterman where he gave us all really. Really empowering interview about how his brain works, and he was saying when he connects with the universe at times is very hot and connectivity that and just relaying back to those moments with Connie, which means he's powerful person. We all listened to what he has to say. We all expect this when Kannada perform the genius that he is the creative that. Does this mean that as a man can run a country, I think a lot of people are questioning that right now for a lot of us for friends and family. If this is one of my friends and family right now I'll be getting around them. Just going how you doing checking in and just making sure everything's okay.
Philadelphia reopens gyms with strict guidelines
"Another restriction loosens today. Jim's throughout the city are allowed to re open their doors today with strict new guidelines to protect against Cove in 19 capable youse. Justin Udo spoke with some people who are anxious to get back to their workout routine. Greg Sherman says his bodyweight workouts and outdoor runs like the one he took part in Sunday afternoon on temples campus are just not cutting it anymore, and he's ready to get back in the gym. Personally, I think it's about time. I think they need to be reopened. I just hope that they have the right precautions in place for everything. For Shuman, who works as a personal trainer, he says he's fine with the city's guidelines that patrons must wear a face mask and stand six feet away from each other. While in Jim's. He looks at those measures and the personal protective equipment Jim's must put in as necessary precautions, hope that they have the staff on hand to keep everything clean there. P P. E prices
Jessica Biel and Justin Timberlake welcome second child after top secret pregnancy
"Number two for Jessica Biel and Justin Timberlake. You're probably surprised as they welcome their second child shouldn't be excused for that. Apparently managing to keep the whole pregnancy a secret. According to the Daily Mail due to the pandemic, they've been holed up in Montana with her five year old son, Silas. Well, the only way to
Mariners Likely To Open With Six-Man Rotation
"Season with a six man rotation. Marco Gonzales pitches Friday's opener in Houston, Taiwan. Walker starts the next night, followed by You, Sakaguchi on Sunday. Kendall Graveman will pitch a Monday Siri's finale, Justus Sheffield and Justin done. We'll pitch the 1st 2 games of the series in Anaheim Challenge Cup quarterfinals
"justin" Discussed on The Down and Dirty Show
"On your host Kelly. Crandall I've got a really great guest today to discuss racing from a different perspective, and that's former Nascar series winner Justin marks. I wanted to have justin on the show to dig into whether he misses racing. Because Justin decided to end his NASCAR tenure in two thousand, eighteen, saying he wanted to focus on business and other ventures. What we did discuss his racing career, but it was brief I had an inkling that if I just teed justin up, he would offer some great opinions on how he views Nascar from a business standpoint and the reason I suspected. That is because Justin is a great follow on twitter for that exact reason. If you head over to his twitter account at Justin Marks D. G.. You'll see.
"justin" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO
"From Justin he said mom I have below is a delight please let us know when our grocery store get your favorite yoga back in stock I I will do that and I appreciate that too because it the it's always good to have a different perspective and I think I try to bring in that perspective of the small town yeah because I grew up there are very proud to be from a small town and and I remember going to going to college like it so I went to Perham our graduating class was about a hundred and fifty and I remember going to Concordia and that's a small it's a small college but for me it was bigger was the next big step we had about seven hundred six hundred fifty seven hundred kids and kids class at that point and that was the logical step I grew up wanting to be a gopher I I used to put goals on my wall of how I'm gonna play for the gopher basketball team and and you know like that was that we always want to be a golfer but can courtier felt right love can Cordy we used to go watch games there and and it felt like a logical step the Twin Cities seemed enormous to me at that point it just seemed too big to handle those kind of those look it was minor steps up that does help prepare me to feel comfortable in working in in media in a in a market like this because because Fargo that's where we went a lot of you know isn't only an hour east of Fargo so we go there all the time and that felt felt like a natural first step before before here obviously that was nothing none of that I had none of that if I had my way would have been far go to Minneapolis but I was pushed out to Montana New York and DC and in Texas and then before we got back home but I always try to bring that to never forget where I came from I love to go home that that's that's where I'm able to kind of decompress and is just relaxing for me to go home to Perham state my parents and we just relax out of the lake and I'm and I'm proud so I try to bring that small town that small town experience with me as well he was like that was is like for for the longest time you know the eighties you look at you have these like larger than life muscled up superheroes thank god you know Sylvester Stallone Arnold Schwarzenegger Steven Seagal and these guys were steroid it up super heroes on on screen right it was the predators and terminators and in all those movies and then something changed near the end of the decade he was the everyman he was that the kind of sort of balding guy that all these things happen to woman and yet he became the hero as well as indicted I think you have a chance against us a mystic cowboy yeah because.
"justin" Discussed on Elvis Duran and the Morning Show
"Justin Timberlake Beautiful Day. Take Care Okay. Full III DOES NOT LOSE A AWESOME DOC. Love so suit me a they have. There's a Justin Timberlake by the way.
"justin" Discussed on Elvis Duran and the Morning Show ON DEMAND
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"justin" Discussed on Burn the Haystack
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"justin" Discussed on ID10T with Chris Hardwick
"I l. l. a. n. And I just love this guy we. I've known him for many years We toured the same college circuit to get At the same time I did stuff with him at meltdown and a pilot at comedy central and so it just. I am always rooting for this guy. Because he's such a sweet fellow and legitimately talented musicians I've ever seen. I'm laughing because at that kind of anger inducing lake when you see a trick you're like Oh fuck and come on. What so it is that if you ever get a chance to see him in person you absolutely should and watch his show. So here is addity. Podcast number. Ten forty nine with the magic of Justin Willman initiating cantey protocol. We that for whatever reason. I had the foresight to the floor. Say the foresight to get the floor from meltdown. When.
"justin" Discussed on From The Perspective Of Justin
"I know this is A. Doesn't exactly have anything to do pretty centers, but we just kind of jumped to this, but. If all the people. Just were a little bit less rich everybody. Everybody could be a lot better. Now? I mean if you about wealth distribution. That doesn't work either. I know that I've heard somewhere that wealth distribution is like what caused the Great Depression reception likely that did it was all foregin FDR's wealthier programs shit of trying to get people free money. There's gotta be a better way I think like. 'cause this way is not that good haven't rich people is not bad because having rich people creates jobs. But there's people who are so rich. There's there's some greedy people in the world. Okay, they they just kind of want money enough announced. Blake. Businessman is going to spend his money. Because having money in sin is nothing. He's GonNa move it. You're going to build stuff you're gonNA have jobs because of a product or service that. They came up with. Every rich person is pretty damn smart. You gotta be smart to be rich. It's not necessarily. Some people get lucky like Kylie Jenner while. She didn't necessarily get lucky me lucky in the way that. She was born into a family that was extremely wealthy. But. I mean she also. She has some degree of talent. Takes talent to run your own business shit. She has her own makeup business whatever? But. I think it's a whole lot easier when you're you're. Just born with all that opportunity. We probably got to wrap this up. 'cause. My baby's been freaking out for all. Saying. This has been a tenth episode of from the perspective of Justin with Clint Hudson. Appreciate being here. So yeah see you later..
"justin" Discussed on From The Perspective Of Justin
"Hello, I just wanted to say that. In this episode there is a reverb mainly on my voice. And I apologize for that and it will happen again. Hopefully it's not too bad, but. Maybe, it is sorry. What's up? Everybody is tonight's episode from the perspective of Justin Have Clint. Today's my guest Stockdale stop motion. Fun Stuff Stop, Motion Animation is funny. Shit all kinds of animation..
"justin" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"Listening to short. I'm you're. It's not as short as i used to be. Host justin long drain sweetheart did do mhm clever. Thanks thanks <hes> you're still clever. You're always clever. I'm here with my supportive brother christian christian long. Do you ever <hes> <hes> play with the idea of doing sports in high school. <hes> yes i baseball i did i played baseball and basketball <hes> but i was never i was a late bloomer like you. You know i was i i hadn't gone through puberty until like sophomore year in high school and by that point. I was kind of puberty by that point. I was a little behind the ball in terms of you know being big enough to play and all that i certainly never considered wrestling <hes> nor or was i ever interested in professional wrestling. No i wasn't either and our guest. Today is a very famous pro wrestler. I'm still not i still not but but it was really interesting meeting yes. This is our first pro wrestler. We've ever had on the show i i i would say unless i'm forgetting the i ask fleet of yeah yeah we've been wanting to have more non actors and i know a lot of the feedback for the show has been that <hes> so this was exciting on that level too and just just to change up the show a little bit but yeah like you said i as i had so little knowledge of what this world was. It was interesting to talk to somebody who is like at the top of that world or guest is chris jericho and even though i know next to nothing about professional national wrestling i know that name famous he is. I know nothing about what he does really but i definitely know her. You know the name because it was a famous snow. I definitely know that name. There's a handful of wrestlers whose names i know like charles cogan john cena but the <hes> but roddy roddy piper yes right flare well part of it. Too is a lot of these guys crossover in some way. It was going to say that you know sorry about the rotten outs. Okay yeah the rock. I have never heard a bad word about at the rock. I haven't either by all counties just like the most most solid human being i met him. Briefly once we both went to an animated movie called planet fifty one <hes> and we did we did press together one day and he he was just the most charming but but to the point where you know it it it forces you to question like well what's really going on. How can anyone be that well. Maybe one day we'll have on the show but today we have an right right right charming person. Yes yes jericho interesting as a kid. We justin i and our brother damion as kids. We used to play a game called goumba the remember that of course i remember we would take pillows does these big pillows from our couch and stand on either end of our we cut our family room and say goumba and we'd run at each other kind of like sumo wrestling style and we would. We're just knock each other. I've seen people doing versions of that. Were there in those big puffy like translucent balloon soon fo- used to play goumba and i think that was the closest i connection to pro wrestling that i ever had to. You know why we call the goosebumps on. Remember <hes> <hes> no i. I just thought it was funny to say yeah. It is fun to say winter columba's in super mario brothers. That word was for some reason in our vernacular. Sometimes we used to like adopt these silly sounding words just because they were fun to say yeah <hes> <hes> so i was never into pro wrestling because i remember learning when i was a kid in school that it was fake right when i learned that i was like stupid stupid..
"justin" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"By me Justin longs produced by Christian long and Megan Monaco senior producer is Michelle me lands audio engineers Marcelino via Opondo executive produced by Marsha Louis and her non Lopez for wonder. Do you might be cooler on like an apple cider like you don't have to go through that much post thing that you know that is crazy. I would never do that anymore. It's just a shitty. I don't think people who are mean like Blake overtly mean for no reason to two strangers and or anybody that's not. It's not cool. Behave like I think that not only not ed qualifies in my view from some that I would ever care about or so when I say cool. I'm like there's got to be a like a humane element yeah. That's true for them to be considered cool to me. It's like a humane. I don't find Enron like Harrison. Ford is hard part of the reason why I don't think he is cool because he does I mean I was in his characters great but he he seems like a fucking curmudgeon. Yeah also case in point. Someone like if Seattle Reeves was like a shitty like kind of like a Dick had steven seagal yeah. I wouldn't think he's cool. No good looking at in like a movie now but the fact that..
"justin" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"Ship from wondering this is Justin Long and you are listening to life if a short sweetheart do and with always Christian long hello well we said at the same time wow so we should clarify verify the show a little bit was. I don't know that I described it. Also the more you say to describe the more you protest about why you why you subscribe. The playboy sounds like a law guiltier. That's that's true but it I I confirm that that is that show foursome. This reality show on the playboy channel was the sole reason the only thing we watched on it yeah absolutely now again that sound like I'm being defensive swear. I don't like nudity so this guy who asked this question in the self conscious nerdy way he had such self consciousness in his voice and that knows blow is it just indicates his awkwardness. Our guest today is perhaps the polar opposite of that Yeah Person Yeah so our guest today is Kevin Bacon who is got such an ease about him. I mean among other things but there's something so cool about him so naturally cool about him in insofar as he doesn't try at all and there's snuffing <hes> forced about yeah. Even when he came into the studio he was running late. If I'm running late which I often 'em for an appointment at sends me into like this apologetic tizzy I'm so sorry and like explaining and and he seemed genuinely apologetic about added but he was one or two lines of Ham Sarah's a lot of traffic. He's perfect. Apologies cool was cool. There's fared about it but you didn't indulge in. He's also a guy who so famous so well known. There's a game about how famous famous six degrees of Kevin Bacon and that whole game is about how you can connect any actor Kevin Bacon in six degrees basically so it's like giving examples like <hes>. How do you connect Kevin Bacon to Jeremy Renner Jeremy Renner? Can you do <hes> yeah okay so Jeremy Renner to the avengers two. Oh Jeremy Renner was in.
"justin" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"Hi, this is Justin long. You're listening to life is short. I'm here with my brother Christian long. Same other symphonic. How are they gonna tell us apart maybe before every sentence? We can say Justin, we just say our names. Yeah. That Christian that would be really fun to listen to Justin. That's funny. Say to me life is short title referred to first of all I just like it as sentiment. Also, please be honest. You like the pun. Of course, we're at the age you more so than because you're three years older, where you are more. Reflective. Because you sense it, you asking so quickly closer to the end and it seemed shorter. Do these days, right? Times just gotten that much more precious. This is a weekly show for weekly interview show. We're going to talk to actors musicians artists thinkers, I'm curious, how these people that I've known in other ways, I want to know how they get the most out of life. I was saying this to my best friend today. She was like shears glaciers put. It's also so long. And then she says. And it's the exact amount of time, we need your old meal. Can you hear blow to check regularly? He goes, I would've made a great hope. I would have been very lenient. Yeah. And we wanna ask bigger questions like what's your favorite emoji? And the one that I like is the foggy window pane, someone can be like, what are you doing this evening? I dunno foggy window pay that kind of thing, just like the thumbs up that it'll take smiley faces wing. So I hope you join us life is short with Justin long premiers on may thirteenth subscribed today on apple podcasts Spotify Pandora or wherever you're listening right now. Maybe naturally if we start talking, I'm gonna start going up and down. So get ready for that America..
"justin" Discussed on The Tiny Meat Gang Podcast
"Yo. You see Justin stories today. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just be. Yeah. Yeah. And now I can't because he fucking blocks me. Why did he block me? Why man? I don't know. That's crazy. But I don't know it's kind of a flex though for who me. Yeah. It's kind of like a unique experience. Yeah. But but yeah, people are like oh my God. He noticed you. And like, yeah, that's true. He did notice me pretty fucking cool. But at the same time, I wanna know what he's up to dude. I've been a fucking it sucks. It actually suck. I've been a Justin Bieber fan forever, dude. Well. I'm a fan, bro. Not a fan of you anymore. Not why not dude. I always thought like I'll meet him one day. You know, you might you all you chop it up. Then when you need them when he when he became friends with all the vine people on Mike damn kind of one degree of separation away from this, dude. I think I'll meet him one day. And now this shit. I wonder if he's what if he's like, what did he hates me? He might do. But that's what if he just like beats the shit out of me. Yeah. But dude, that's that's the starting point. Am saying. Yeah. And then I guess like you see him in real life. Yeah. You'd be like, hey, man. Look, I don't wanna be strange which blocked me on Instagram, and I just wanna to know was that a conscious thing or do you not know who the fuck I am. And if he goes like, I know you are. Oh shit that makes it even worse. He clears it that I do. Here's the thing about Justin dude is now he's like all on his like righteous religious shit. Yeah. So, you know, you'd be able to appease him in that way. What I'm saying you'd be like looking I know you're trying to walk that path. You're trying to be I know you're gearing up for your next album release this next album releases upset I was going to be like it's going to be some Christian rap shit. And so I just want to help you on that path to righteousness by telling you to unblock me, right and go from there. Yeah. That's going to help you. I mean, how can you ever really be at peace? If you know that we have beef. This is for your own good John blocking. I just like I wa- I just want to know why why why the fuck. It's weird as fuck. We'll get a chance to ask him. And then we can put that into our next show in twenty twenty and we'll be able to tell the story about why you know, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll reach a his wife falls mount Twitter. Maybe I'll does she. Yeah. Maybe I'll be like, yo. What's what's up with Justin? Justin L. Listen. A what's his damn wife? Haley bieber. She's just call bit a bit. What is respected sit out of that will do it. It was bitch. Look, your husband blog me. And I just gotta know what's up. Nominee slide in real nice say Haley, listen an honor, by the way that you follow me. I want to know some about, you know, this involves your hubby you'll get your MS right there. Why did your hubby hubby? Well, Soviet your hubby. Do I got no problem with him? Talks. Dude, it sucks you heartbroken. You'll be all right. We'll get over we.
"justin" Discussed on RobinLynne
"Justin mitchell two into think of and miss heaven when i say spend such get you but i just a thought mr.
"justin" Discussed on Alice @97.3
"Justin so me hey the kitchen flows ron again so oh two just poor now to god jackson oh you just wait palace at ninety seven three scene you adjust it's a special occasion but i'm glad i'm eighty john all those.
"justin" Discussed on Happy Sad Confused
"I need anything else we should say sammy's should we just let justin a poll carried the day i think we let justin nepal carry there's a lot of fun surprises coming up select them let them just enjoy this for now at furn of remember guys please review rate and subscribe the to the podcast i was saying last week i have noticed that since we since we've been mentioning this we're getting a bunch of reviews on route eighteen and almost all them are actually good now way airwaves though nice lease of she had that kind of commitment say 'this robbed the she she's actually is listening right now please a review in regions ascribe please please please enjoy this conversation with paul rudd and justin theroux here still lackey i am i'm plus you hashtag has sagged glass and enjoy mute on at flick's seem quite now meet viewing yes oh my god i love her we already sell feeling volatility tape until you feel it is this live there's no no deep down anderson snow podcasts work i've heard of them no no do you ever listen the partyis poll have you ever nokia phone should be able to know i left to dial up i'd alec last podcast summer nokia and they uh like one i really look cereal will good i mean it's just like the characters is so rich she has a risk better 2015 the sound affects or allies um the guy they've got to re open that k they have to have risen adhesives imaging did you see what verani it on which they would make a podcast of the jinx.
"justin" Discussed on WNVZ Z104
"Justin theroux then is deal no mark these ooh those who spoke cakes is his these not long ooh mrs dean the seed 104.