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SRTU Bonus: Johnny Gargano/Tommaso Ciampa Feud

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SRTU Bonus: Johnny Gargano/Tommaso Ciampa Feud

"It's still welcome everybody to another bonus edition of the store Show as chosen by you our listeners. Today we'll be covering the Johnny Gargano Tomas O. Champa feud from start to as it stands right now finish. I am one. After the show I am Jeff. Peck joined every single week on my costs. Only only Dr Franklin Doctor Trae we are about probably cover. The best feud that has gone on during the entire S. Rt YOU air. Yeah I. It's definitely since I start Because I don't know when the Owens Kevin Sammy Zane Capstein Elgin. Air Coffee was ending But it was before I started on to you so in the modern era of S. RT. You it is absolutely the best viewed. It is It's an amazing feud the reason why. Like there's definitely soft soft place in my heart for the Kevin Owens Kevin Steen El Erico feud from ring of honor like that is to me like one of the best year. Long feuds that I can ever remember. This is like right up there and we're going to go through this and what's crazy about. This feud is it's about four years nearly three and a half to four years and I know when you when we look back at a lot of lot of the issues as to why it was so long because there were like multiple injuries To to CIAMPA one a Gorgon that that slowed things down. But it's just an amazing metamorphosis of characters and it's very very similar to generic. Oh and Kevin Steen ironically enough Guys that tagged with one in generic and seen and and two guys in Champa and Gargano that also tagged with one another and similar to Stena generic. Oh that is extremely relatable to the wrestling fan. You know there's a lot of parallels here we are gone. We watched Champa grow up before our eyes The same thing we did with Steven Generic. Oh as well to even now to what we see today enrolled. Russ entertainment with Kevin Owens and Sami Zane so there's a lot of different parallels air and I think there's this emotional investment that fans have into these characters especially are gone on Champa As there was with steam generic. Oh what's cool about these guys is like. I remember watching Champa at those shows as a I think he was like the project to Moscow champ and then when I saw him pop up in annex t He wasn't as good as you when I saw him in the late nineties or ninety late two thousands Early two thousand ten's he wasn't an amazing worker. That was like Oh this guy's the future but then when you saw him years later in annexed he quickly became one of the best workers potentially in the last decade Certainly in the last three years both of these guys Johnny Gargano Tomas Champa so the story begins Doc trae on August third two thousand sixteen and it starts at the cruiserweight classic A one time turn with we did on the network and John Tomasz Champa battle each other in the first round. The match lasted just over ten minutes. It was extremely compelling compelling aspect of that match was to Moscow Chambas unwillingness to pull the trigger as he contemplated landing the running knee from the corner to Johnny Gargano The psycho killer at a moment compassionate cost them the match and in the end carjon world champion to advance to round two It was a very classic moment that they ended up replay multiple times in the middle of the ring next to one another On the ground arms around each other very classic shot from the Cruise Way Classic and that all started at the cruiserweight classic tournament back on August. Third Two Thousand Sixteen Dr Trae any memories from that match the Chris Way Classic with those to you in kind. It's weird because you go back to that time. And neither guy was really highly regarded. A like like yeah. These guys are good but we didn't. We didn't know they would get to the level of kind of like they're almost shoehorned into the tournament. Like you saw this laundry list guys who really work in an xt. It was cedric. Enter wasn't an NFC. All these guys that we see now weren't so having Gargano Chop kind of gone there against each other was kind of like all right. This is kind of like. They're throwing them a bone because they're did exceed and they've had some good matches up to this point. We'll see how it goes in you know. Also it was two guys that were friendly. But they weren't as close as they would get coming out of this like they. They became friends. But seeing these guys in there is like wow. These guys have a special chemistry. Got a special kind of thing. Going here There's this question of how is going to play out and where to go. But it was one of the highlights of the tournament that people it almost gets lost Because of the highlights of the rest of the cruiserweight classic but that was a phenomenal. First Round Matchup Between two guys that were on the indies but weren't really known within the mainstream of. Wwe WANNA give a shout out here too by the way to progressing stories dot com. Who helped a lot of the prep for this edition of the show so go check that out as well. If you'd like to see that a recap of this amazing few Jennifer gone on to Moscow Champa next phase of this story. Diy doesn't win the annex SEATAC titles or the Dusty Rhodes Acting Classic. It was also during this time. The DIY lost the revival in an NFC tactile match annex takeover Brooklyn to on August twentieth. Two Thousand Sixteen. I was there for that match. It was pretty cool I. Then they lost the authors of pain and the Doc- rotating classic semi-finals on November seventh. Two Thousand Sixteen so as tag attacking. This is where they started to to really blossomed. Dr Trae was during this time at NFC takeover Brooklyn to. They had the crowd in the palm of their hands They were making some waves in the tax division in Exte- but end up losing to authors pain who ended up winning the entire tournament on November seventh the Shirley before their match against a revival takeover. Toronto which will get to here in the next point. But this is when you started to see the build of diy in annexed and they were kind of Your the scrappy underdogs. Everybody you cheer for them. Because that's what you're doing with baby faces but they were kind of like you know when you had the others of pain When you had the revival American Alpha was still kind. Of on the periphery there. Were still kind of lingering right before they got called up. You had tm six one. That was Kinda hyped up. You know with them coming in so. Diy was kind of like the forgotten team but they were the equivalent of what Danny Burch and only Larkin are now like they were just a really solid tag team that you could put into the mix they would have great matches and but he didn't know if you had anything special even at this point yet they were just too damn good workers that could get a compelling match of Tags and you put on the ring with I remember. They won the number one contenders for the TAG team. Titles in the summer like July that year and it was really weird because at that point they were like jobbers in annex t when they became number one contender. It's like this this matches going GonNa Stink and they started getting a lot of momentum on. Nfc television the full sail crowd loved them. They loved them since they debuted in annexed like months prior. I think it was like September October. Two Thousand Fifteen are they. Were in that. First Dusty Rhodes texting classic thrown together pair But yeah you started seeing the momentum carry in a carry itself to the pinnacle which takes place on November Nineteenth. Two Thousand Sixteen. Diy Wins an exciting goal that antics takeover Toronto It's a classic match. The third fall is the most memorable from that match with both dash in Dawson simultaneously tapping out thus making. Diy The new tag team champions at this point diy reached the pinnacle of their successes. Attacked him in a match of the year performance. It was an amazing match. Dr Trae One of the best acting matches. I think we've ever covered in this show here that Match between the revival and diy the two out of three falls match from antics he takeover Toronto as diy became our new NFC. Tag Team Champions. Yeah it was. Was We ones where like on one hand. We were sitting here. I remember I was kind of doing the prediction. What hand you're like. Well revivals got to be moving up here at some point but they also you so if they do so they dropped the belts. Drop it to champion. Gano and it was. It was like yeah. They got a good bill behind him. The crowds getting full sail. Loves them but you know were they ready to pull the trigger and when you wash that match back like it is just fantastic from start to finish like though I mean that timing x t like when you had the America through viable to diy like those matches were so great and you can put any kind of combination together and they were going to be fantastic and this is kind of what cemented DIY has. Hey these guys were there together. They're an elite level tactic. They can have fantastic matches with technicians. Flyers brawlers doesn't matter and it was like you excited because you felt like it was unexpected like you knew the revival against the main roster some point. But you know we're was the belt to maybe a little more hyped up than this thrown together tag team that just kind of got on a roll and It worked at match was great. They've played off that thing so many times since The revival has played off fat in matches on the main roster sits Because it was so good that you try take aspects of it and fit it into matches later on but just one of those ones where you watch your back even three years later. And you're like man that was just so damn good to watch The rendered around this time they were holding the tag team championships. You sorta seeing seeds being planted of tomato champ turning on Johnny Gargano here and that would be the break of diy and that was like the expectation moving forward and We had to January twentieth two thousand seventeen and actually takeover San Antonio. Diy Loses the NFC tag team championship. Ceo P that night l. p. was expected to To win many fans including US during that time felt like Champa was going to turn and it didn't happen that night. Then there was also a triple threat elimination match for the NFC Tactic Championship between diy. And the that was a great match often forgotten about that we thought was going to lead to a split and didn't as Aarp retain the revival moved up to the main roster Matt Annex Takeover Orlando on April. First two thousand seventeen so for about like a four month. Run Dr Trae. We were feeling like Oh. Diy break up break up to break up. It didn't happen and at this point I felt like back then. We were invested in them. Remain is attacking going forward from that point forward especially when you get your own. T shirts made up almost you on some level. I'm thinking of the Chris Jericho to AJ. Yeah WHY TO J. T T shirts made that means you got break up and yet the DIY shirts out there and people were buying them up. And I'm like man that's gotta be a symbol that they're gonNA turn right away and he didn't do it and and it was the Senate Tonio one. I really remember that being one where I thought it was going to happen because Shawn michaels hometown in. Gargano is a huge Shawn. Michaels family. It's Shawn Michaels and just waiting for that to happen. In that building in didn't happen I was like with you. I'm like man. Maybe they're not going to pull the trigger. Maybe we need the baby faces around. Maybe they break up and go separately and stay on singles rods but as baby faces But I kept waiting for because I remember CIA from ring of Honor. Much like you did. And what a good healy was and I was like man concern. Chop has guy go. He'll just because like he's so good at it And Gargano sympathetic white me beatty phase. They everybody loves but they didn't pull the trigger at this point. I'm like okay. I'm in on there. It's GonNa be like there'd be like Brett you'll just a really solid tag team that people love and if they go singles we will still love him. the net takes us to. Nfc TAKE CHICAGO ON. May Twentieth two thousand seventeen at that point. I remember feeling like as I said before that this split was going to happen and That this did happen in a very classic match and attacked him ladder match they They lose two. Gop The night before to Moscow Champa gets injured at a live event. More on that in just a second and The closing sequence of that night with DIY even though they lost getting a resounding an amount of affection from the fans in Chicago that night a very classic event by the way and exceed takeover. Chicago back in two thousand Seventeen Champa turned on our Ghana by throwing him into the led board to close out the show and just beat the crap out of them. In a shocking moment for fans at home for fans in the arena it was perfect from arresting storyline standpoint. Dr trae probably one of if not the most classic moment from this entire feud To Moscow Champa turn Johnny Gargano went throwing them into the led board. And I if I'm not mistaken and you're a little more historian than I am at times. Was this one the first house we saw the you know the little. Wwe ex-team monitor in the corner like the show when the shows ending then they stuck with it and it was like why is this taking so long and to this day. I don't know if anybody said I've always wondered what Gargano whispered in in chapel whispered and Garganas ear right but through four thousand Bailey because see that hug Gorgon CIAMPA say something to Johnny and I've always wondered is he actually saying something shoots owns a cafe as far as what he says. The Johnny right there but the This is my moment one. Is that what he says he was in his ear? Like he says this is my moment then throws him into the led board. And I remember McConnell's like what yeah throws isn't always wondered because I never heard that always wondered what he said but then he throws in the led board. The beatdown happens. And then when you find out you're second would with the the injury that trump has suffered the night before light to still do all that stuff to pull that angle off just shows what kind of love and passion that man has for wrestling and that was really one of the first true glimpses into how much that guy loves pro wrestling and how much they love each other like. It's it really is like a really bad. Like break-up like emotional love story. I mean it's it's it's Affleck in Lopez breaking up. Jeff I mean that's how I felt and takes us to our next point. Here is Tomato. Champa suffers a tornado. Acl The night before annex takeover Chicago despite wrestling the event CIAMPA did so on a Tornado C. L. and announced the injury on the May thirty first edition of Annex TV That would put him out indefinitely for the rest of the year. We wouldn't see him return until January twenty eighteen but Man This was like a Gut Punch because we got something so amazing but it may have been like the best thing to happen to it. Because they didn't shock on it they let it breathe for a little bit and allow more character depth for Johnny Gargano. Which will be our next point here but What a bunch of punch your doctor. Trae for tomorrow o. Is suffering a tornado after defining moment? Yeah I mean it. It was one of those things where you're like you get so excited for something because we see that moment and I remember you and I talking about like just after like that was amazing. That was one of the best turns we had seen in in quite a long time and this is quickly taken away from you like. Yeah that was great. But YOU'RE NOT GONNA get to see it for a while how plays out But for the fact that like I like that CIAMPA wrestled Probably was a fifteen twenty minute. Match on a torn. Acl Like that. That just still to this day. Blows me away that you can do that. Like it was just incredible in believe it was a ladder match to wasn't it? It was there was a ladder match. Like how you wrestle match with a torn. Acl just blows me away like but that's nothing but okay. This is the angle we have to do this just gut it out. And you don't do that unless what you're doing is something absolutely love. And that takes us to some of the character depth following this so Johnny Gargano then is on his own and would typically when these moments happened. It could be like a sink or swim deal for for these wrestlers because now they've lost ten momentum instead they completely one eight hundred and utilize the storyline to perfection as Johnny Gargano. Spends this time now to rediscover who? He is in an xt so the betrayal of tomato champion Annex Takeover. Chicago weighed undergone undergarments. Mind as he started to find himself. there was a losing stretch. He went on shortly thereafter such as matches to android NFC takeover Brooklyn three which was a fantastic match the moment and that one is Alina Vega throwing diy shirt at him and then towards the end of two thousand seventeen. We start seeing gyro ending up to to finally find himself in in re ref- redefining who johnny wrestling is as he ends up winning a number one contenders fatal four way match for the NFC championship by defeating Killeen Dane. Also black and Lar Sullivan. On December twenty seven th two thousand seventeen episode of annex t Gargano on Pin Alison Black. Thanks to distract from Adam Cole. Gargano all those guys. That point in time in annexed was the least likely to win and he ended up being the number one contender to face andrade. Cnn Almaz then known at the time on January twenty seventh twenty eighteen at NFC takeover Philadelphia. But I loved this character death Dr Trae because like I was a fan of Johnny Gargano then but when they started adding this like trying to find himself and how much this entire thing with Jomo CIAMPA was playing on his mind. They really went into another gear with getting fans. Truly care about Johnny Gargano. Yeah it was weird for me because I remember early on when he was first getting those first promos about. I don't know who I am. I don't know what to do. I was like man. This is just not you know. Your typical baby-faced Promo use your baby are full of positivity and energy in data and these were like kind of always me promos and a Lotta Times. Those can kind of go the wrong way. And you don't get that sympathy but then when you see those matches with. Andrade in in those matches were so damn good and it helped put Andrew O.`day over even more because there were fantastic. You know like matches the watch you start to feel like he's getting so close he so close every time And it allowed that people to kind of even get more sympathy for Gargano even after the the be doubt like you get that great turn. Were trump beats them down and usually the next time you see the baby face. I'm out for fire and Venom and I'm going to get my revenge on that guy for turning his back on me and we didn't get that it was it. You could feel the heartbreak you know. And that's not something that people can usually pull off trying to get across TV so it really did. Add that depth of character. In my time I get that fatal flaw away like you and I remember Pretty Michaud. You were like Gargoyles Brian. This massive take the pin fall because Larsen even they were building up. I don't think he had been pinned by anybody. At that point. Also black had been pinned by anybody that point and killing Dane was the beast so we all thought Gorgon was in the Mash to take the fall to put the other guys over and it completely flipped on us. in allows invest in that character. Even more let's go to January. Twenty seven twenty eight. Annex Philadelphia and the return of Tomato Champa despite the losing effort to Andrade CNN for the antics championship match a match. The year candidate in two thousand eighteen four. Johnny Oregon Gargano despite losing the NFC championship an opportunity to capture it. That evening as Ghana was leaving the ring with chance of thank you Johnnie in Philadelphia Tomasz Champa return and struck are GonNa with his crutch to close out antics he takeover Philadelphia another moment where that little credit at the end at the bottom of the corner of the screen was a plane. Great Way to close the show. Amazing Match Dr. Trade pointed out as well how much this helped elevate andrade CNN. As well. And I completely agree Gargano almost at that point in annexed prior to this feud and even the title for a frond dry were Like good good workers. But there wasn't a lot depth to them and It really elevated their game. Great match the return of Chop Dr Trae and we were full speed ahead of seen. Gargano Champa finally battle and now yeah and you go back that time with Andrade right before he got the belt. I used to call me. Gatekeeper Vinik St. Like every time they brought somebody in new they put in the Ring Andrade and it was one of these around drought. It was a good wrestler that made everybody look good and that these matches with with with Gargano leading up that one in Philadelphia elevated Andrade where people go man okay. Yeah he's ready. He's money now. You can move them up and they did shortly thereafter You know thinking back on some of this stuff here with with this return of chop and everything else remember like there was also those matches where they had on raw where we're bringing some exte- guys and deaf actor as well which I don't if that was before after this but you know that measure Philidelphia felt like Gargano Swansong in annex t like I thought legit that hey they might be moving johnny up because we go five live and it tastes the main Rosser. Maybe this is is. It was almost like this point. You had you knew CIAMPA was around but you didn't know what as we come back and it just was the perfect timing that it felt like this was johnny leaving an boom right back into the banks as the old the old Mob thing you know just what I think I'm out they pull me back in. That's how I felt to me like I thought Johnny was out and then Champa pulled him back into the pit Let's go to February two thousand eighteen now. Ciampa getting Johnny Gargano fired from annexed e. I think this is one of those moments that is often forgotten about whatever reason and I think it may have been the most the poorest way the storyline was executed was this entire firing storyline. So back on television Johnny Gargano challenges on to a rematch with the stipulation of Donald Loses. He must leave next forever. GotTa Remember Selena Vega was saying that you know we've beaten you twice already why we face again Dating back to the match. Nfc Takeover Brooklyn Three. And then the one that happened at exit takeover Philadelphia the month prior So Gargano had his t career on the line to Moscow. Champa causes interference in that match causing johnny onto lose for It's actually the fourth time and being forced to leave an xt. So at that point. Johnny Gargano had faced Andrade three times by mistake and lost him for fourth time and was no longer part of annex t thanks to to Moscow Champa which gives another famous moment during that angle where to Moscow champ is like an stands just waving goodbye to Johnny Gargano and I remember that played in in a lot of packages to open up annex t week to week so tomorrow champ again he got Johnny Gargano fired from. Nfc Dr Try Yeah. I didn't dislike as much as you did. A many because usually in WBZ with these weird random gimmicks in there like you careers are on the line. It's like Oh that just means that means giants put his colonel and he's GonNa win. They're not they're not getting rid of Gorgon. Oh you know they're not gonNA move him away from this brand with everything going on For me it was kind of like a nice little flip. It's usually it's usually when the you know the person is the line doesn't lose unless it's at Wrestlemainia in your ric flair Shawn Michaels apparently But for me I was like wow. That's interesting what they do with this. Because you know can johnny b the the rebel. I guess which is is theme. Music says that but it was just like okay. You have to go against the rules now because you're fired you can't be here. How is he going to pull this off? And does he have that extra layer of depth to the character? Because we've seen chop be ruthless in a sense Gargano. It has to start being ruthless as well to potentially get his job back Let's get to now you over New Orleans on April seventh two thousand eighteen. This was the Johnny Gargano Tomasso Champa unsanctioned match Johnny Gargano ends up defeating tomorrow so champion and brutal unsanctioned match to be reinstated to annex t The end of the match was when Johnny Gargano broke apart the crutch but hesitated on hitting pleading Champa with it. As they sat down very similar to the cruiserweight classic moment joppa went for a cheap shot. Shot but Gargano countered in the Gargano escape with the knee brace wrapped around choppers face and mouth GIAMPA taps out and Gargano wins the match reinstating. The next day it was the first time we finally got to see both these guys wrestling nearly Ten or eleven months I should say from when the feud was originally catapulted at annex takeover Chicago in May two thousand seventeen Dr Trae. This was ops absolutely grueling match between these two guys yeah and and to this day it is still my favorite unsanctioned matching when we've seen other shows other companies try to these things and to me. This is still like the epitome of if you're going to have to guys in a blood feud and do it on sanctioned match in needs to look like this and as well as matches also that we see a lot of those moments in that match have been ripped off and used in other hard core extreme rolls around your sanctioned matches but that just shows you how don't say to help trendsetting this feud has been because it seems like every single little piece of the story from beginning to this point now has been stolen in used in other fields But was just absolutely fantastic intended day. I'm still really upset at myself because that was the weekend. I was indoors Wrestlemainia but I didn't get to go to the NFC show so. I'm still mad at myself for missing out on this match live Let's get over to the next point here. Annex he takeover Chicago to Chicago streetfight other feud continues post. Nfc takeover New Orleans when chop attacks Gano as Johnny's making his entrance for an NFC championship match against also black on the following weeks chemistry slaps chopping Dergana inadvertently knocked over canister in abroad with Champa? Now we have seen candidate Reagan vault a little bit more outside of the NFC takeover Philadelphia Farewell At this time during the storyline that moved from fighting for revenge but for family as well among Champa in Gargano as expected both men beat the holy hell out of each other with Johnny eventually dominating the later portion the match and also featured several member memorable moments such as went to Moscow Champa pulled off. Donald wedding ring spat on and fruit in the crowd. Perhaps the greatest line the match would be would when they when they laid the groundwork for months of calm as Nigel McGuinness said during the commentary out loud. If Johnny Gargano has become what he despised Gargano force champion to tap out but there was no referee referee able to call it eventually. Gargano Lock Champ in handcuffs continued to land super kick after super-quick on CIAMPA when officials pulled Gargano off of him somehow mustered up to strike the nail Gargano with a DDT on the wooden Footba floorboards and that was all that it took to end the match and that happened while he was still wearing handcuffs. So great storytelling in this matches. Well Dr Trae is to Moscow. Champa gets a little bit more revenge defeating Johnny Gargano Wanted Chicago Street fight and ACCE- takeover Chicago to back in June two thousand eighteen. Yeah for me. A couple of things with a it was the interaction. Really candice into the feud And helped elevate her At this point and expertise you really just a jobber and you know Kinda Johnny and Tomasa were when they first came. Ceo Hey she can put good matches and help get people over But we don't know where we're do with her yet and this is kind of like there is your introductory level of candidates could be a star in annexed. T- Secondly I to me the first Metros Great. I didn't know if you could top that one to me the second match This one is my favorite one in the entire robbery. Just fantastic in the wedding rings soubriquet like everything late in here perfectly because you know commentary wise storyline wise and matches equity wise. It was just a perfect storm of everything coming together for this one Then this is where things are taking a turn for Johnny Gargano character as Johnny Gargano helps to Moscow Champa become the new champion on July fifth. Two thousand eighteen edition of x t throughout the summer of two thousand eighteen. We witnessed a bunch more aggressive side. John are gone. But Johnny's obsession with exacting revenge out to Moscow Champa backfired during that episode on Annex. Tv Interferes Tomasz champion for black match by accidentally hitting black with the NFC championship causing champion to take advantage and become the new champion. A triple threat match was scheduled for all three minute takeover Brooklyn but following a parking lot. At Tech that left black unconscious he was deemed. Unable to compete the attacker was never identified which led to many weeks worth of speculation. It was also around this time. Also black I believe had a groin injury and was out for several months during this time but this was a really interesting. Turn Dr Trae as Johnny Gargano starts to get a little bit more aggressive and ends up accidentally helping to Moscow champa become the new NFC champion it. Kinda played into the commentary. Line that you talked about earlier about like you know as Johnny you know becoming what he despises and you know that that that instance I just thought was beautifully done as well because it was like you know. He's trying to extract his revenge instead he ends up helping the guy that he despises the most And it led into the Almost like the JR from Dow's like who shot Jr like who's got alsir black and in a way. It kinda helped elevate talents. Well I remember Nikki Dick Cross was was real. She really did a great job to this. Whole thing with Nicki knows and stuff like it helped. Elevate the rest of the roster during the search because you start to see personality traits and Care Death. Come out from everybody. That regal is questioning so the once again. This is a really good aspect of this. Viewed played out on TV Let's go to Brooklyn floor. The August eighteenth from August eighteenth two thousand eighteen Johnny Gargano versus Tomasa champion. A last man standing match for the title the two fought all over the arena until eventually making their way to the stage where Ghana appear to be in control until he made one fatal mistake Johnny handcuffed Champa but in an effort to perform the running knee. Gorgonio fell from the stage and landed onto equipment as referee to nine. Champa manage to roll off the stage while the handcuffs kept him elevated on. Its feet chopper one and remained the NFC champ. Maybe my favorite match from this entire feud between these guys because I remember watching it home going. Garganas could become the champion. This is awesome. I can't wait to see it and the ending was something that I've never seen before professional wrestling. Comic completely off guard was an extremely creative. Which you know is a big part of this. Entire feud being so successful the amount of creativity about both these guys. Dr Trae I love this match. It was a great ending segment and told a much bigger story of Johnny Gargano beans so close but Going against the grain of what he commonly does and Kinda fallen in line of that aggressive side that to Moscow was trying to get out of them. Yeah I to me like the matches I liked to better than three match wise. I liked the ending of this one better than and what's he had never seen that ending before especially with handcuffs. Never seen that done just beautifully played out and the great thing about this is what's again Gargano. Getting close but not getting it leads into happen later on when he finally won the title but just that whole storyline way was played out beautiful match in like you know two and three. I have gone back watched several times since the happen and I don't do that. A lot of wrestling matches but these two just two and three were two to my favorite matches of all time. Let's go doctor over twenty four. Th Two thousand eighteen is Johnny Gargano reveals himself as the mystery attacked her of Also black several months passed by and during the October twenty fourth. Two Thousand Eighteen episode of G Gano attacked Allaster black and it was officially reveal that it was indeed johnny wrestling who laid out black months earlier in the parking lot. It was also during this time they gonNA turn to the dark side. Thanks TO HIS BATTLES WITH O. Champa DR trae yeah. It wasn't really a huge fan of the turns of the dark side here. And I remember telling you it kind of feels like they're testing the waters for something like maybe they might do this down the road full speed ahead but it just didn't feel natural right away like I I kind of felt forced But it was it was to be like I'm in my head. Every time I think about this I always picture visit man yelling. It was me Austin just kind of felt like Yoga Yogarajan had that look as face without actually verbalizing it but just to me it IT I. This is maybe the one aspect of the feud. I didn't like because at the time we had seen Gargano be more aggressive but once again Janis is not the best in the world and they were trying to present them comes a bad ass and I'm like it doesn't really fit who he is at this point but I could see it being like a precursor to something down the road But Yeah I think this is just an excuse to get Gargano and black in a ring and let him go at it. Without the fans being divided on cheer for go to November Seventeenth. Two thousand eighteen is or black defeats Johnny Gargano Annex takeover wargames also black absolve Guerganova sins with two black masses and CIAMPA defeated the velveteen dream to retain the NFC championship that evening The month of December two thousand eighteen turned into shop being namrd with Gargano dark side and wanted to expose it. Ciampa believe he broke. Johnny Resi in Ghana finally came to his senses. Most notably during this time ciampa interfered in the cage match between black and Johnny Gargano on December Nineteenth Two thousand eighteen episode of Annex T. And this is where we saw. Diy Reunite in that cage and they both hit their Tag Team Finisher on black. That was the double knees there to Alison Black and that was a pretty cool moment there and Kinda made you scratch your head and in wondering where things were going Dr try. Yeah to me. It was kind of like the If diy was dark is do yourself darkness in yourself was it was my take on diy but it was really was a what hanger like? You're happy to see them back together. Like if that's the way it was going you're like Oh wow. They're they might reunite and this be kind of cool. Then you're like anytime you're like. I really want them. Being villains was as it was awesome an awkward at the same time but it still wasn't. Were like man I i. You couldn't turn away from it because it was still re really good even if you didn't fully understand where it was going to hit a January twenty six two thousand and nineteen as Johnny Gargano wins gold and diy stand tall on an exceeded close out and take takeover Phoenix that evening earlier than I. Johnny Gargano Defeats Ricochet to become the new. Nfc North American champion Walter Muscle Champa retain the title over Alston Black Gargano defeated ricochet with the brain buster on the exposed concrete outside the ring fall by slingshot. Ddt inside the ring for the pin and the show included with Johnny Gargano appearing on the stage with Tomasa Champa as they each held up championship goal to close out the show and other one of those moments where the title screen the caption at the bottom. The closing moment graphic and It was both those guys reunited on top of annexed. Dr Trae. Yeah in. This is almost forgotten timeline of this but in a lot of ways you're like man this actually led to black and ricochet teaming up for a while as well like this is kind of like a precursor to what we saw them. You know both teams going to run smack down. I think But yeah just those were actually just really good matches. I think get overlooked. Because it's not Gargano versus CIAMPA. You that people love so much the these these are both outstanding matches with four really top notch competitors We'RE GONNA go to February twentieth. Two Thousand and Nineteen John Are GonNa Loses the North American championship developing dream. The most notable moment from this match was to Moscow Champa a sense of pity win Johnny Ghana lost. I was the first time we saw Johnny Gargano and to Moscow Champa or more an ugly Tomasso Champa have have blackheart a heart toward gender. God's title loss. It was a very small moment in this few Dr Trae but This is when we started seeing pity. Conference champions two to Johnny Gargano. Yeah we had seen moments of Gargano do that with shop. Go back to the broken crutch spot where he questioned himself with you. Want him and it's like all right. We'll we've seen CIAMPA will do is completely ruthless will do whatever it takes to win In we started see Johnny. Get that you know that aggressive in this moment you go wait. Ciampa does he does care about Johnny. Like it was things where it's like just shows you the depth of these characters that you'll they'll they'll feud they get back together you know break apart like it's just more layers of emotional content laid upon the viewing audience. Yeah Tomas Champa felt pity for Johnny Gargano that he suggested that. Diy reunite for the dusty Rhodes tactic classic and that started on March six two thousand nineteen a diy defeated the undisputed air in the first round on March six but ended up losing to alyce black and ricochet who eventually went on to win that year's tournament on March Thirteenth in the semifinals on TV. It was also during this time. That diy was tagging on the main roster getting victories over the revival and the bar in the match against also black and ricochet on May Thirteenth. They came out to the diy theme song with matching gear. And the now I D I y blue shirt Then in an oath to their NFC take Chicago match against AARP. Johnny Garner was nursing an injury while a frustrated CIAMPA tempted to pick up the pieces. Unfortunately it backfired in one place. One well-placed black mass fall by six thirty splash force. Diy Out of the tournament. Kinsley Ray ran down to the ring to check on her husband into Moscow Champa uncharacteristically put-down Goldie has his. Nfc Championship to check on our Gano. This misaligned sympathy was unlike anything we'd seen from CIAMPA in months as a to walked up to stage in full sail university together chopper briefly stared at the Doc- Roach taxing classic trophy. Then attempted to throw Johnny Gargano into the led stage cleverly. Johnny knew how the scenario would play out so he faked the injury and then reverse it by throwing chop into the stage following up with a super kick kind cheered in approval at this point in time it looked like diy Jennifer Garner that the best of Tomato Champa it appeared that for months Jonah. Devise a plan to grow closer to Champa only to see the champion. Let his guard down and become more trusting so johnny got evil tapped into his dark side to get a little bit closer to chop on the black heart. Doctor Try yeah this was What's the Um beautifully well-done once the only thing I didn't like about it was you got black and ricocheted advancing the doc- tournament because like I just want one real tag team to win the first thing the Arizona but like outside? That's always been like mismatch. Tag Teams But just with in reference to Gargano and job just beautifully laid out. Slow burn storytelling At its finest with us in the end result with Johnny getting the upper hand Tomasa was just kind of out of nowhere. And we're just like wow. That was just incredibly well done because you can go back and look at all. The sees that were planted in laid out to where you finally get to your final harvest. There was just beautifully. Well done and of course once again. This feud was snake bitten as Tomato. Champa had suffered an injury park to Was revealed after this segment that Tomas O. Champa injured his neck and required immediate surgery as a result most notably Gano Chapel. Were supposed to face one another antics. He takeover New York that weekend Or that Later in a couple of weeks and we even heard that CIAMPA wanted to wrestle mismatch so we could drop the title it was not medically cleared to do so so unlike that time next take up. Chicago when he knew that he tours. Acl and they let them go out there and wrestle they did not let him Russell mismatched. Even drop the title to Johnny Gargano and keep glimmer of hope. Alive in the feud Gargano went onto defeat Adam Cole. Nfc TAKEOVER NEW YORK on April Fifth. Two Thousand and nineteen eighty two out of three falls match in one of the greatest. Nfc matches ever following the conclusion of the match and emotional Johnny Gargano celebrated with his wife candace as they made their way up the ramp to conclude the show. Familiar face emerge from back to Moscow champa instead of attacking johnny that the three embrace in one of the most emotional moments in recent memory for split-second fans saw the real chop celebrate with his best friend. This was an amazing moment. Dr Trae and It was pretty cool to see them kind of pull back the curtain and just got an opportunity to really celebrate this championship. It made no sense restore lines stamp because the last time we saw champ of prior to this he was born in an led stage but we were told basically to Kinda throw everything out the window and just go. You know what cave this? Yeah this is my earlier when you go back and you see how close Gargano gotten a few of the Andrade then the chances yeah with with Ciampi when the belt and then to finally captured in that unites to that match. We've we've done shows on that match. It was fantastic. Gargano overcoming all the obstacles in everything thrown at him during that match and everything else he'd overcome to get still one of the best crowd reactions I have ever seen for an NFC wwe But just that Cathartic emotional release of Johnny finally capturing the title Just really well done and yeah. You're right that the the ending onstage was weird But you know if you know the deeper story you know these guys backgrounds beautiful But just one of those moments that you watch it and you're like yeah. I know where I was going to happen. And I I remember how I felt when I saw it. Ciampa returns and DIY reunites for the third time. During this time we saw Johnny Gargano Feud With Adam Cole over the NFC championship at execute. Take over twenty five hundred. I two thousand eighteen drop in the NFC title to Adam Cole. That evening and then they would battle it out again at him calling Johnny Gargano and Take Toronto on August tenth. Two thousand nine hundred and losing again to Adam Cole and two out of three falls match. That's all I singles match streetfight and barbed wire steel cage match. Stipulations for each of the falls fast forward to October second the very first episode of Annex Television Against Awa dynamite and tomorrow champ return from injury to confront Adam Cole and start a feud as the Wednesday night wars began on the October twenty third episode of annex t gone on Champa reunited again to face the undisputed air alongside Finn Baylor It was during this segment. That Ballard famously attack are as the undisputed air assaulted Tomasz. Oh Champ so we get some sort of reunion here. Dr Trae prior to this last time on annexing television outside of the NFC takeover New York moment was Jennifer Garner throwing champion to the led board but they found common ground in their hatred for Adam Cole. Mensa speeded era as they are moving forward here in the fall. Two Thousand Nineteen. Yeah and that's still on the best moments The last couple of years in wrestling was you know the he turn of Baylor on Gargano. Just came out of nowhere in the look on trump's face when ballard hits the. Palay kick like what the Hell just happened. And then he gives jobs Just at that point before that turn you see the match out there. The face off with Chop Gargano and Ballard gets as we like man. This could be really good. The three of them against the era and then the entire segment decay goes completely the opposite direction. And we're left sitting there going to happen but this was really great and the lie that was because of the emotions that we'd have vested in Ghana and trump together moving forward there. Tomasa Champa feuds with Adam Cole industry to error why Johnny feud with Finn. Baylor was during this time there was not much interaction between trump. Gargano had their separate feuds going on Champa with the industry to Darren Gargano within Belarus's I previously mentioned most notably. Gargano was set to face fan dollar and actually takeover war games on November twenty third two thousand nineteen but was forced out due to a neck injury and was replaced by Matt Riddle Chump. His team consisting of keithly dodger. Cova Kevin Owens ended up defeated the undisputed air in a war games match that evening as well Gargano would return to annex TV on December. Eighteenth two thousand and nineteen distracting. Imbalan- cost him his NFC championship shot against Adam Cole and still not interacted with them. Also champ brief reunion Dr Troy but they They stayed away from one another as they closed out. Two Thousand and nineteen. Well although everybody chance fight forever. I don't really think you want somebody fighting forever. So it's Kinda like that. Nice little tease and they will pull it back apart again. So I will say I still feel like those feuds right there the CIAMPA undisputed era like chop call one on one at this point Kind of felt flat. And even Gargano Ballard because of the injury reason in everything else. It just didn't have that same. You know feel to it that you know chopping are gone ahead so it almost feels like when they're not with each other at this point down watching their rivalries of the other wrestlers develop. Diy Faces Mustache and Chambas quest to regain Goldie gets thwarted by Johnny Gargano on the January. Fifteenth Two Thousand Twenty episode of NFC. Television Gargano comes to the rescue of Moscow Champ against the undisputed heir and later that night they get challenged by annex. Uk's Mustache mound to Ma- TO A match at worlds collide twenty twenty odd January twenty fifth. Two Thousand Twenty die. Why would go on to defeat mustache that evening? And extremely fun match at the February Sixteenth Two thousand and twenty annex he takeover Portland event. Johnny Gargano Loses to Ballard earlier in the evening but comes back out to interfere. Trump's annex champion match against Adam Cole as the undisputed heir was interfering in the match CIAMPA went to grab the NFC championship only to be stopped by Johnny Gargano. Who hit him with a championship causing champion? Champion to lose turning heel in the process. As DIY imploded again. We saw a brief reunion. And then they split Dr Trae. This was very well executed at takeover Portland. Yeah that NEC Portland Him. That was a better shows when you watch it from start to finish as far as storyline wise. Because at that point Ballard are gone. Match was greats Johnny lose again. And that's something that you know. We saw your anytime. He's dealt with Champa. He has like these losing streaks when he's wrestling other guys But that match was incredible And then the close the show you're sitting there with when Gargano head shop but we're also going what the hell happened because that was something. Nobody saw coming You maybe we should have but it was just once again really well done really really well laid out and caught people by surprise in the final chapter chapter here for now one last match on April twenty April eighth. Two Thousand Twenty The original plans for gone over Champa was supposed to happen antics takeover Tampa Bay but that was changed due to cope with the COVID nineteen pandemic instead. It was announced by triple eight that they would have one last match on April. Two Thousand Twenty being the end of their feud Johnny Gargano would go onto defeat tomorrow champ on April eight th two thousand twenty episode of TV cinematic match. Thanks to the help of Kansas Laurey. It was during the time that we saw choppers show towards Kenneth Ray who said earlier on that she hated her husband and Johnny Gargano and agreed. That enough was enough between them. Gone received a low blow kicked by his wife only reveal. He was wearing a couple later after Kansas larache kicked to Moscow Champa in between the the legs era Gargano ending on the would From the exposed drinking despite defeating to Moscow champion ending their feud since then we've seen Tomasso champion. Mythic Arcona was the better man as he began his feud with Karen Cross and Scarlett while Johnny are gone on canister may got a whole new heel persona has been extremely excellent thus far. This is the final chapter for now. Dr trae Jonah Gone. I'll get the upper hand over the blackheart tomorrow. Champa felt like had to be done that way because I think they're now too so to me it kind of even up the robbery a little bit but yeah it was to seek to me once again. Seeing candidates who basically at that point was the epitome of like Bubble Gum and Candy and candy is far as our character to see her add another layer to her character and go a different direction. And then just the way that matches done like just at that point with this. Is the third cinematic match. We had seen. Even though I heard I found out later on it was actually the first one filmed out of wrestlemainia matches in this one. It's actually the first one done but what's in really well done really well laid out. Great storytelling involved in it. And you're the close out this chapter of the rivalry so far just really well executed. Although I don't hold it up as high as I do maybe the previous three matches. Yeah I don't think it was. I think that in front of the crowd. It's a different story. I think the reaction would have gotten with Kansas. The Ray turning heel and Gargano with cup would have been excellent absolutely excellent and that was one of those. It's one of those moments where it was like. It was still pretty cool. Cinematic was awesome but Democrat on that one because they would've had the same emotional moment that we did at home watching it all take place on our television. So that was the final chapter Dr Tray of this feud for now one of the greatest we've ever covered here started in August. Two Thousand Sixteen and for the time being right now has ended on April twenty or April two thousand and twenty looking back into now Dr Trays. Couple conclusion concluding thoughts on the entire thing. How do you sum up the Gargano Champion? You'd as we look back at here on this special edition of Rt. You see one of the things that you and I have talked about over the years on. This show is when you have two guys who are offscreen. Best friends and completely trust each other. You get some of this great magic. You can take chances in the ring and take chances of your character because you know the other guys have your back And cover up any mistakes. We've seen that with with your owens and Zane And we've seen as an incident in a few other feuds over the years but you know this is the closest thing to Mirror Owens Zane that we've seen in the last ten years as because these two guys implicitly trust each other In and out of the ring I mean you don't take DT Onto expose woj unless you trust the guy throwing that move on. You don't do those things unless you absolutely no. He has no. Ill will towards me at all. He is not going to hurt me in any kind of way. And you see those times in wrestling where you don't you can tell the guys don't trust each other in the ring so they are a little more protective of themselves. These guys implicitly trust but the other guy is going to do and they're willing to sell their ass off to make look great and I think the other things that stand out to me is when this feud started. These guys were like lower card wrestlers. They were kind of. Nobody's unless you love them on the independent wrestling scene and then they ended the feud as probably two of the greatest annexing superstars ever on the bridge in the brand. They're definitely on that. And so cliche to say. But Mount Rushmore of and this is by far the greatest few that has ever aired on anti television. Maybe in W E in the last ten plus years so it was amazing. Job Start to finish the other stuff that Dr Troy pointed out was spot on as well. There was a lot of characters that really benefited wrestlers. I should say during this. Entire few guys like Andreotti Girls. Like Nicky Cross really helped elevate their game some during this song then you also saw some stuff from the village dream also black and even ricochet the revival as well so it was an amazing feud top to bottom Dr Train. I think it's probably the most. It's definitely my favorite feud we've ever covered here on the history of the show and one more thing that I love is usually when you see a tag team break-up one guy gets elevated one Guy Kinda falls by the wayside is the Shawn Michaels. Marty Judge Netti Dichotomy This might be the best tag team break-up in history because because both guys have gone on to become champion and you don't see that of tag teams break up You know even like ms in Morrison the other tactics we've seen over the years. Hassler part one guy usually rises above the other guy and this has been a few. That's not only built people around them but built themselves from within and just just beautifully. Well done almost three and a half four years. Yeah it was an amazing job. By both CIAMPA and anybody creatively. That was involved in this entire process to put this on the television for all of us. Starting in August two thousand sixteen and right now temporarily ending I would say on April two thousand twenty It has been absolutely fantastic in a joy to watch and enjoy to cover here throughout the history of this program. So hopefully you enjoy this bonus edition of the so Rochelle. Feel free to chime in with your thoughts on the tomato champion. Genyk ARE GONNA feud at Esotique podcast or read. Our facebook page facebook dot com slash show. We will catch you hear this Thursday. We'll get you ready for Money in the bank is upcoming Sunday. And we'll take a look back at everything in the world of professional wrestling Mat. Sit Out to us so until now until Thursday for Dr Troy Franklin. I'm Jeff Pack. Thank you Tomasa Champa. Thank you Johnny. Gargano this has been a bonus episode of s rt uh-huh.

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Wrestling Cheers- Special Christmas Short Episode with Wrestling Nerds Radio Network

OC Talk Radio

09:46 min | 1 year ago

Wrestling Cheers- Special Christmas Short Episode with Wrestling Nerds Radio Network

"Hi It's Jamie progressive's number one number two employee leave a message at the Hey Jamie. It's me Jaime this. Is Your daily Pep Talk. I know it's been rough going ever since people found out about your acapella group mad harmony but you will bounce back. I mean you're the guy always helping people find coverage options with the name your price tool. It should be you giving me the pep talk now. Get out there hit that high note and take mad harmony all the way to nationals this year sorry it was pitchy Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates Pricing Coverage Match Limited by state law greetings everybody and who Ho Happy Holidays from your friends at the indy cast I'm Chad Allen. I'm ZAC Romero and for those that don't know if we host the DECAF possibly the most consistently awesome <hes> independent professional wrestling pop culture with a little flash across sprinkled on top podcast that you can find and we'll tell you more where you can find a bit. We undercut that crash part of quite a bit we you're pretty nasty but we ever but nevertheless it's the holiday season much like Ralphie. We should have soap in her mouth for Trudeau true so yes the holiday season here in pro wrestling podcast land. We're all claymation this month. It's very uncomfortable full band exactly exactly I'm the CHARLEENA bucks anyway so we want to take a moment here to wish you all well and talk about what we hope. <hes> wrestling Santa brings us in the New Year <hes> so Chattanooga I what do you want. Wrestling senator come bring you wrestling Santa to bring all the good little boys and girls out in the wrestling world all the all the the fans I am hoping that for both the mainstream fan who like you know obviously dividend me and the big companies or even the fans that like new Japan or ring of honor or fans like us who obviously follow the independent scene because that's what our shows based on. I hope Santa brings us a little bit more humor humor a little bit more fun and just a moment to sit back and remind ourselves why we started liking this performance art and first place because I think sometimes a little too idea seriously what's fair neff just me how about you. Let's see what do I want. Wrestling Sanit bring me I would love new replica belt so that I can bring it to shows and make everyone uncomfortable. Seventy the fans fraserburgh belts this show. I agree dude that I agree with that. No no replica belt on good <hes> I would say what do I want wrestling senator bring me. I want wrestling senator. Bring me more interesting female pop- Vinyl figures so that I can keep repeating them into sue young. That's what I'm that's what I fully gimmick. I need more interesting characters. I can't keep using the same body over and over again. 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Johnny Hot Seat | Featuring: Johnny Gargano and Ron Funches

After the Bell

45:45 min | 7 months ago

Johnny Hot Seat | Featuring: Johnny Gargano and Ron Funches

"The following program is original. Wwe podcast coming up. He is synonymous with X T. And today he's chatting with us on. At Johnny Gargano here. Plus you've seen him all your TV the silver screen and the STANDUP stage. But today Ron funches joins us to talk about his love of the squared circle. Atb starts now. You're welcome welcome. Welcome to after the bell. I am still corey. Graves plus one more year round the sun. I made it. I think I'm nine years beyond my projection. Congratulations me feel free to send me. Belated Birthday wishes at WWe graves or send me whatever mean stuff. You've been sending any way as you were. It's more fun. I'm not let it bother me. We've got a good show today. We're going to celebrate sports entertainment. Wwe and beyond. Because I'm allowed to do that dammit. So let's not waste any more time. You can find this man each and every Wednesday at eight. Pm Eastern Standard Time on the USA network. He is the heart and soul of Annex. T Johnny Gargano Johnny. What's going on man? How are you? Hey Man how are you? I'm doing great absolutely fantastic. I'm here at the performance right now. Actually so ready to go. I like to have this mental image of you that is never not in a wrestling ring. As long as I've known you it's always been in a wrestling environment We've had very few interactions beyond occasionally like a catering or in the hallway passing once in a blue moon. But I like to think the johnny wrestling really lives up to the name and never leaves the ring. Pretty much I I actually in like a conference room right now form center and I'm looking at a bunch of pictures. There was a picture of undertaker With pallbearer there's a picture of Shawn Michaels visual. Don't go see Boston Heart. So that's that's I. I'm very entrenched in the wrestling world. so you can normally find me like you mentioned in a wrestling ring in wrestling. Conference Room. Filled with pictures. Of Various people half-naked. It's funny to me. I have a lot of guests on here. And we just sorta take a trip down memory lane and realize just how long we've known each other. It's had to have been what twelve years I mean. I remember the West Park Party pavilion in Cleveland for AI. W and probably even before that with with. Jt's company you know. Yep I remember that in Cleveland. I remember in Pittsburgh Right So we we did a bunch of stuff there as well But Yeah I think we've known each other gotta be I've been wrestling for like fifteen years so it's I've had at least seem your. We've we've interacted probably twelve years. It's probably a good estimate. It's really wild when you think about it and everybody takes their own journey and goes around the world to get you know where they want to be. But you're here. You're setting the world on fire along with the rest of the black and yellow brand. Let me ask you this as someone who really cut their teeth within the WWe bubble as a member of Annex T. What have been some of the biggest changes since become a weekly live show versus when they used to just record things at full sail. Things are just a whole lot faster. I think Before you'd kind of have a week where you'd have all your TV. Prep you do. Maybe four three to four episodes and one full sail taping. Now you're Kinda you gotTA gotta be on every single week now now. It's not just okay. I'm GONNA do this. Tv film poor episodes and you're disconnected for a month here as every single Wednesday night. We gotta go out there and give our all and you got to be prepared for anything. And I think that's the biggest change is before you kind of knew what was coming now. They've kind of change in a week to week basis. So things are a whole lot faster and just changing all the time so you had a cup of coffee. If you will on Iran smackdown along with champion. A couple of other members of the annex t roster. How would you coffee? I don't know that was a cup of Coffee Lilac. You were at least standing in front of the coffee shop. Let's say that okay. Okay I went to the door. I mobile ordered move order but I didn't pick it up. At least you found the starbucks but how does how does that compare and contrast to what he's become now I say it's it's very different. Maybe just because I'm so entrenched in the XP system and I have known Are Basically writing staff our creative team. Everyone who were all the camera guys. Everyone who works backstage plus is at full sail every week and it was like ten minutes from my apartment and Orlando so. That's nice so travel schedule isn't as hectic as raw smackdown. But you all you see it. There is urgency that same diversity on Ron Second. I was just different like it's way more stressful on smackdown for some strange reason but it feels like home. And if I'm very very comfortable so I think that's the biggest difference for me than the eating what I felt over there. It just feels very. I don't know like things are just a million people. There's literally a million people that I've never seen. I see New People all the time when I backstage back down. And he is just like a family environment where. I know everyone so I think that's the big chain looking around the the next T- roster you've got a lot of familiar faces. Obviously not only since your time. Arriving in annexed T. But back to the independent days What's it like back to our earlier. Conversation sort of sharing the locker room and sharing the platform with some guys in some familiar faces. I think that's the coolest thing is it's we've all been talking about this for so many years like you mentioned we've known each other like twelve years. I've known a lot of the guys that are on the NFC Rosser for probably like ten years as well and it's all filled with guys. Who have talked about this moment. Talked about making the and kind of doing what we do. And and I think that's also the while thing we're just doing what we do and then like any of us have changed that much. It's not like we've had to be completely repackaged or retooled or renamed or anything of that. It's a lot of just us doing what we did. On the indies. Doing it on national television. Which is wild that I'm able to do that with guys. Like can consider friends guys. I consider very close to me. And that's why I mentioned. Nfc being like a family. It's like that in our locker room as well. And that's that's what I love most about it to your point about this is just doing what we do in everybody's sort of had the same dream for the most part To get to. Wwe Now you find yourself. A lifelong fan being able to work shoulder to shoulder with one of the greatest. If not the greatest of all time I know a personal favorite of yours Shawn Michaels. Yeah I literally just like Right for the interview I said. Hey Darryl how weird is that that you just went to day? And they'll away there's hpk it's so weird a weird. Now that I get text messages from Shawn michaels asking me about like cookies. And I I remember when I saw like Captain Marvel. I got a text would like Kenmare thumbs up or thumbs down like you're like movie reviews now So the weird life. I live right now that I just talked to Shawn Michaels about cookies and movie reviews and lights. I mean Kansas all the time about. How is it going to be really weird one day when we have a child and I'm just like Oh yeah? Go go play with your your uncle. Uncle Sean and Uncle Hunter over there. Go hang out with them go hang uncle. Dx over there and just see them much. Yeah you know. Your Dad used address like your uncle. Sean used to put on like Very flamboyant and dance around his house of sexy boy. No big deal now now. There's this him now Yeah it's weird life man. But that's that's the. I don't know it leaves me speechless. Sometimes when I sit back and actually think about it I think by the back of that man was painted on my wall and now he's just a text message conversation away. It's while right and I think we're all guilty of just forgetting to step back every once in a while and just pinch yourself and go wait a minute. This is my life now. This is what we do and we were in this in this world now and it's just kind of a crazy feeling when you when you look at it like in the big picture for me the thing. I hope to never lose. I like the minute I lose that Inner Fan. I lose that inner child where I sit back and remember how cool this is. That's that's for me that that's the biggest thing when I do like meet and greets or say I'm GonNa Hotel and and there's kids waiting around the guardrail or early morning in the airport and people are coming up and giving autographs that. I always try to remind myself that I did this. Like I was standing there in that that child is or I was at this meet and greet or I was standing in line to do autograph signing always remind myself of that and we tried to think what would have made me have the coolest experience ever and. I try to do that for them so I think the moment I lose. That is the moment I shouldn't be doing this anymore. That's Awesome I. I'm guilty of all. The things that you are trying to avoid is usually my dad that brings me back into reality when. I'll call him and vent him. I'll never forget. I was in my car back in in the next few days and I can into some disagreement of some sort with dusty who was so integral to Olive Annex T. I called my dad to vent and I'm going damn it dad dusty won't do this or dusty thinks this is and my dad goes stop. Listen to what you just said you got in an argument with the American dream and I guess that kind of made your point for you All right maybe I should just shut up and realize what the hell I'm doing with my life so it's important to keep that perspective but now to your point earlier about Sean as close as you become on a personal basis you still have to work in a professional capacity with him What's it like having Sean as is the coach slash mentor as opposed to the friend for me? It always just feels like I have the best wrestler of all time on on standby. If I ever get opinion pretty good problem to have I think about it. That vein to selling the indies and I was struggling with something and I just text Shawn Michaels and he can tell me the right answer like I. That's my life now. I can actually do that. But being able to work side by side with them hand by hand and What he's brought. Nfc is just such a different vision. I've always been a fan of obviously ninety Shawn Michaels. That's what I grew up on. But as he got older and as his career progressed he developed a different sort of style and that was a style that like really kind of resonated with me and I tried to do a bit on the news. Well with the storytelling aspects. Being more movie. Ask as opposed to professional wrestling. I definitely believe in the drama. I believe in the Shakespeare I believe and all that sort of stuff that he brought the table and he was a big reason that that became popular. So he's kind of bringing it to Annex T. Well I've always had that mindset so the timing just worked out to where I could go Side by side with him and kind of make those types of matches and those types of stories and those types of things come true and he. He's the best of all time for a reason. He is very much. So the mindset wrestling evolves wrestling changes He's not one of these older wrestlers who sits back and says things need to be this certain way and I found that the guys who are very very successful have that mindset. They aren't so dead set in their ways that they need to be. They need to be right all the time. He's consistently learning anything physically growing and he realizes one hundred both realize that wrestling in two thousand twenty is way different than wrestling was. Say Ninety dollars so what? We through a typical afternoon at the performance center watching an X. T. footage maybe your own footage with HPK. So I'm not performed center as much as my Johnny Rescue. Monica would lead you to believe any more trying to help you here seeing as it as NFC is on TV on a weekly basis. Now we have like travel. I've invented as well like this is much bigger schedule now goes before so I am only here just to get a workout in and things like that so yes I am still in this building before though it was I was fully entrenched into watching my matches back with Shawn Michaels on a weekly basis. Which is again a dream come true but also a nightmare in itself because I hate washing any of my own matches. I hate all of my own work. I know a lot of people say like there's an actors like that. I Know Adam drivers like that as well But I I don't like watching us so to have to watch it back with my favorite wrestler of all time and my childhood hero is a bit of a nightmare but like I said he's very Very Open minded. I mean he's a little biased. As well known I'm forever so you probably just you know tells me nice things now but yeah But I'm normal like a normal daily normal. We'd come in. We'd maybe get a lift and then we'd sit down to watch professional wrestling with all these great minds at center. Which is you know. It's great as much as I didn't appreciate them at the time. I miss a bid skull session from time to time. Those were. You're right. I I got not intimate much anymore. I'm not intimate anymore. And I had to miss them now. It's amazing what you pick up and you didn't even realize it at the time until you go. Why why do I know that? Oh because I sat with Terry Taylor whomever in a room and I it's weird the things that resonate with you even at the moment you don't pick up on. I believe Kerry Taylor has skull session right now. What's going on currently right now in a conference room in the building. I'm in right now. So he just come on you. Can we can get one more in. I remember when we were in the performance center. In in a Lotta times we'd be. We would dread skull sessions in in for those listening. Skull session is essentially a gathering of you know individuals talent sitting with a coach or a dignitary is thus used to call them anybody coming in and kind of given their perspective on what we're watching whether it be critiquing a match or watching some of the greatest matches of all time and sort of breaking it down and and step by step in trying to pick out little idiosyncrasies that maybe were overlooked and I remember Just dreading those days because it was like I can watch wrestling at home on my couch. Why do I have to go there? And then and then you look back on the on the big picture and you go man. I can almost pinpoint remembering when and who told me these these crazy things so and some of these classes to like the amount of talent that are probably in a room at one. Time is mind boggling. Just from like at one point their carry. What have the finish in class? And Shaw finishing classes. Well so all the basically the top guys next see in a room together watching wrestling like they think about. Nfc throughout the years. They'll the people that have been in these rooms and done though skull sessions crazy absolutely. I I forget who I was talking to. I think it might have been Zara just having the conversation to to that exact same point about look at the roster now from raw smackdown annex t the amount of people we've shared locker rooms with over the years in the middle of nowhere USA or internationally and we've all. We've all kind of done it. You know what I mean the same timeframe from Cesar Samoa Joe to Champa in yourself and rollins and I mean we've done little independent shows with each other for forever and it just kind of it's crazy to see how the whole business evolved and it's funny because I remember when I first started here like I think like three or four years ago The beginners class with Robbie Brookside. So you always start when you saw the DC. You always start at least for like a month in the beginners class so the beginners class at the PC was like me to Moscow. Alison Killian Dane and like all of tool five lives. All these guys who've been arrested over ten years and we're just doing like learning doing roles and like they'd be into the classroom. Robbie Brooks cited. The Wild thing about is absolutely insane when you put it all in perspective aside from having you know. World Class Coaching and the benefits of skull sessions and Reps. What are some things you would credit your rise throughout annex t to what what sort of contributed to your break in your opinion and I just say the advice? I'd give to everyone when they start here at x t like there's a lot of guys obviously we've talked about company and deeds and they get signed and they come here and they do these. These sessions and coaches and a lot of people have different opinions and they don't know him that well and and they kind of get lost where they're like. Oh I don't know one person's telling me to do this. One person don't mean that one person saying this. I don't know what to do. I don't know who I am anymore and I have to always stop them. I I consider myself the indy wrestling. Whisper whenever there's a new. Indy wrestler that starts to try to give them like the conversation. Like look man like you know what got you signed. You know what got you over. You know what got you noticed? So do that and be you and you can make little tweaks here and there are along the way and you can take their advice and it's almost like you need to have a basket and need to take all these vice throwing the basket and you pick out what you need at certain times but at the end of the day you to be happy with yourself. And he'd be yourself that's when you were gonNA be Organic So for me. It was so weird that when me and my silver started here we didn't come to. Pc We were obviously. We're like indies. So we weren't weren't signed contracts so we weren't in the skull sessions so we were headed to do anything on. Nfc TV and they've got over and the people saw you and they're like. Oh yeah that. And that kind of a whole new kind of style in annexed east. We started in and the today. They are not the same way. We know you guys came in and sort of the interim from the I hate to say old annex t but sort of what was leftover from the FCW days in sort of that class where we all did things very particular way and then there's definitely an in-between period and then sort of started the boom with the massive takeovers and whatnot. And you guys were definitely in in the interim part of it but do you feel like that's benefited. You would all sort of seeing the transition and being there through through the midst of all of it. I think so. I think that when we first started like you mentioned it was like the interim 'cause you always had that mind that where you need to do things certain way you do things to do like we do a certain way around here to get you ready for on smackdown and when we came along it was almost like why do we have to get ready for all and smackdown. Why can't we just make? This is good. It's freaking possible. Like why can't we go out there and make NFC whatever? We're talking about like people love to annex Cuba. They don't let me wrong. It was breeding thin and Bailey and Sasha Charlie everyone were tearing it up and they made an keyword is today but I do think like anything things need to evolve and change so I feel like really. Nfc changed when the first cruise away classic happened I feel like that really affected in the mindset where we did this and then like the Magic. Kinda opened up. Everyone's is this whole new world of like. Oh maybe we shouldn't be doing like four minute matches all the time. Maybe we can do things like twenty minutes or twenty five minutes or give you guys some time to go out there and put in work. And that's really what I think. Annex he became from that is they're like oh like all these guys can go like all these guys getting bringing tear it up. Let's give them twenty five minutes and see what happens and then like that ruined where it is day and then obviously me into Moscow story affected everything where the right right well that sort of long-term story kind of played out. It's just it's so different things happening and it's all just a timing thing with a lot of things but yeah timing is everything that you guys are definitely Still Tearing it down on Wednesday nights and speaking of timing I am going to invite you to play potentially the worst game in the history of entertainment here on after the bell it has spawned from one of the worst segments in Monday night. Raw history that I was proudly apart of with one. Sammy's Zane care. Oh yes e- you know where I'm going with. I was just in Stanford and I saw the chair. I went to the headquarters and I went to the warehouse and they pointed You know that is like Oh. That's the breeding chair. So now now that I know it exists. I WANNA make it my personal mission to make it become furniture in my home. I live okay. Well good to know. I'm going to send a few messages after we get off the air today So I have rechristened this in hopes of a fresh start and potentially less disastrous results. Johnny Gargano you are in the electric seat. You will have one minute to answer the questions that I ask you as quickly and honestly as possible if you win you get to be best friends with Shawn Michaels. If you I guess you're probably still going to be best friends with Shawn Michaels. So yeah there you go. We're just going to give it a shot. One Minute on the clock producers please Johnny. Are you ready yet here? We go phantom menace or attack of the clones. Oh Man I'm GonNa go attack of clone best video game controller of all time. I'M GONNA go with the nintendo sixty four marvel or DC marvel combined on over here and stuff on those morbidity guy when I was younger but Marble Lion King Aladdin g favorites. Man. I'll go a Latin playstation four or xbox one playstation four shirt rockers Shawn Michaels or DX Shawn michaels go deacs Shawn Michaels suck at night. Who Do you pick in smash brothers? go yoshi Disneyland or Disneyworld. So my wife would kill me if. I didn't Disneyland but I live near Disneyworld. And we're annual pass holders the bowl Believe it or not So I got married in Disneyland Disneyland. There you go and Christian Bale and Michael Keaton. Did we lose him? I think we lost Johnnie Organic. I've offended him so deeply with my electric seat questions that he may have banished himself permanently from after the bell. Johnny I'll send you a text message to say thank you afterwards and come back and you're back I'm back. I don't know what's going on Johnny Dan. You hung up on me in the middle of the electric seat He. I don't think I hung up on you. I think this is your thing I think you. You kinda messed up the system but since you hung up on me. I think you were doing great when you did so you win. You killed it. I killed hotseat. I think the electric seat or the whatever. It was the rapid fire questionnaire about nothing. Johnny you were awesome added. I suggest you change your nickname to johnny rapid fire questionnaire about nothing. I can talk to people about that. T. Shirt so you you mentioned getting married in Disneyland. Was that a mutual decision. Or do you just love your wife that much that you decided to do that see. I wasn't much of a Disney person before I met candace. I'd never been to Disneyworld Disneyland. Anything like that but she grew up. Going to Disneyland. All the time grew up a big disney person So she just basically said like I asked her. I said like what would be your dream wedding. And she said she loved to get married at Disneyland. I said unless you do it as make it happen so I mean it came down to that like I enjoy Disney now. Because it's something we do together. It's something we share now. But before I wasn't a big Disney person now like up all the time and I love my wife and because you know Disney right on well Johnny I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to call and chop it up here on after the bell continued success in luck an annex t and we shall do this again in the near future. Thank you buddy. Thanks for having me on. Listen you may not think that. I know a lot about hiring while you're wrong. I know all about hiring and how difficult it is to hire good people because I fire bad ones seemingly every week. Move the light. No you're fired from search in hiring websites to sifting through resumes. 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The funniest person that I've ever had on after the bell has not saying much because most of you hate me please. Welcome Ron funches. How are you Ron Acorns? As having me I'll be the sugar to your spice I appreciate it. I need some balance. Here they put me in a room with a microphone all by myself and expect not to get in trouble. I mean I don't know who thought that was a good idea no I I wouldn't. Yeah you're in dark troubled person only on camera camera. So you're you're obviously a wildly talented very busy dude doing your thing the Hollywood way but you like so many others have a very very strong passion for all things. Wwe sports entertainment and pro wrestling. We can say that on this show for now for that yet. So just give me a little cliff's notes version. What really draws you to to this form of entertainment. Oh I love to talk about it. Yeh Fan If you don't mind me I will say pro wrestling liberal pro wrestling since I was five years old I grew up in a single parent household. Raised by my mom I have my sister and my aunt was there. I just had a house full of ladies and it was a lot a doing whatever they wanted to do. Watch a Lotta lifetime. Movie is playing a lot of pretty pretty princess and my only kind of like escape from that was my uncle would take me live in Chicago. At the time he taking out to the Rosemont horizon and we would go see how shows of a hope Hogan Ultimate warrior in earthquake junkyard dog and stuff like that and I just fell in love with it and it was just like this great body experience I had with my uncle and It's up in stay with me my whole life so you've taken obviously a different career path and done the the Hollywood the acting comedy sort of thing but I understand you also dabbled in Potentially becoming a wrestler yourself yeah absolutely. It's There's two things. I wanted to be my whole life. I either wanted to be comedian. I wanted to be a pro wrestler and I got this comedy thing on lock. Everything is going great. I might as well try this other thing and truthfully thing happened where a friend of mine passed suddenly and You know when something like that happens if is hoping Has We know that kind makes you take stock in your life and a few things. I want to try them. Not Getting any younger at and I was like I wanna see if I would be if I have any skills that all in progress and I just WanNa take a bump in a ring. I WANNA go run the ropes. I WanNa see what it feels like since I watched so much and I talk so much trash I wanna know what it actually feels like and I went in and I to suspend Tino brothers in Los Angeles and I went for three months and but I knew the first day I was out on my death. That comedy was much more. High was naturally gifted a comedy of a wrestling. Her ally I really gave me a lot of respect that was like. Oh It's it's acting. It's grappling and it's like acrobatics. All these things mixed in one and I. I'm just going to stick to the acting. What's more painful in your opinion pro wrestling training or bombing on stage? Oh pro wrestling training for sure. I never had the soak in the TUB for two hours after a bombing on stays maybe four an hour maybe for an hour it just hurts your hurts in your with best thing about bombing in stand up. Is You get stage and you go on still here. I'm fine like it's suck. It didn't feel good to be rejected as a person but I didn't. You know I'm not bleeding. I'm not cut open so I think that's easier. Was there a particular moment when you were going through training they made you realize okay? This isn't for me and wasn't in horrible shape. A big part of it is that I had taken control of my health at I used to be about three hundred sixty pounds and then I got my health together in las over one hundred and forty pounds and I was like I wanna see how far I can push my body and what I can do and so we would do the the regular warm up than I could handle them with some. Sometimes I threw up but I would make it through class but one day. They do squat together as a group and they're like well. You're not doing them in unison. Fifty more fifty more fifty more and they top US off about three hundred fifty squads and I was like you know what I'm thinking. My legs are on fire. I've had enough. Yeah and then you now you WANNA start rolling. No thank you well. Luckily for the fan in you you're successful. Career has opened some doors and leads you into our little corner of the world so much so that Rick flair one of if not the greatest of all time recently. Did the INTRO for your special giggle fit. Yes I is it. A REAL DREAM COME TRUE. I mean Especially coming out and I wanted to separate myself because it was coming out on comedy central and it was gonna be on. Amazon is available now for like five dollars a less most most stream in places that are not Netflix. But the plant is that I knew. It wasn't coming out on Netflix. So I wanted to make sure that stand out and I was like maybe this might be my only chance of doing a special. What would I want on it? And I wanted a big intro. In the biggest thing I could think was to get one of my heroes and and get ric flair on there and didn't like to takes and he nailed it and then I am. I special come out in my own custom ric flair Rove made by one of your wwe. Taylor's which was very happy to get to work with him and I think it came out. Amazing it's I think. A lot of people gave me a lot of great feedback on it. The Rock treated about it. It was amazing for me. A real drink country so ron looking across the WWe landscape all raw smackdown Annex T. What's catching your eye right now. Are you enjoying the most? I mean so many things that catch your I love. I love the ascent against just Murphy Murphy. Now is having lost his first name in a fire. Well that's how you know that things are going well for you when your name starts changing that means people are paying attention to I still have a first and last name so I still suck obviously but I bet big fan of his longtime so since he was on exceed in so to see that I think he's just so athletically gifted such a great worker. So I I love seeing him. Get more shine I'm loving loving across the landscape. I've been a big Fan of paper niven like I think she's just a unique. Eric Garner in so cool to see. I think there's just so many in the bruiser bruiser the browser weights Broza wits. And as you say that Pete done on the screen. He's been as as Matt Riddle. There's four screens in my studio. That just play the clip on loop and they're about ten second loops and I watched the same thing for hours on end to the point where I see them when I close my eyes and sleep so I will likely have browser wait dreams tonight. No idea if that's good or bad thing. Yeah it sounds like you live in purgatory or again dark studio with just four screens playing the same things in a microphone. Which to talk about. I feel like this is a plot. Someone's out to get me. They know I'm GonNa self destruct rejected episode of the good place. I'm just a dark troubled person so tell me a little bit more about beyond what you're watching. What sort of experiences have you been enjoying or lucky enough to have within our business lately? Oh I mean some great things like a had ric flair on my special and then his wife and him. We're looking up our gracious enough to invite me to his birthday party. Which was amazing event. That's where I saw like. You can see that. Shula fact that pro wrestling on something like his birthday party. Because it's something that people still make fun of all the time or you either get it or you. Don't I talk about it a lot in my standup and a lot of times when people get started if people are grown in our like WanNa make fun of it and it's just like when I went to replace birthday party and I see a mayors in senators in football players in wrappers in abandoned. Holyfield in you just like this manufactured a lot of people through his talent that a lot of people take for granted in That just really opened my eyes for me and I had just had a great time there and I got me Dennis. Rodman he was he was weird. It's crazy how wrestling brings people from all walks of life together and I think we're starting to see it more so with our generation because you could argue in the late nineties early two thousands when the business was as hot as it's ever been everyone was a fan became pop culture. Americana you had stone cold in the Rock and the attitude era and now we've all kind of grown and we've all kind of started carbon our own paths in life. Whatever that may be but I find that that wrestling's become a lot more acceptable in relatable much like comic books or anything that was sort of. Maybe maybe frowned upon at any point in your life. Now it's very common. I've got friends in so many different industries that have nothing to do with pro wrestling other than have been being fans you know whether be guys in bands or you know I it. Comic shot up the AGM marvel who takes care of all of us. I it's funny how it's it's sort of become acceptable because everyone in our generation doesn't it doesn't look abnormal anymore. It's kind of like just that thing that we do. Yeah I think a lot of ways you grow up on it We're the generation that grew up on these things video games and comic book a little bit older generation that Unites People and there's nothing negative and you know when you love something and you're interested in something and you WanNa know all about something. That's that usually means that you have like a knowledge our intelligence about you kinda leads you down different path from other people who manages general about things. You know So I think I think unites all those phantoms in what I love about a resume in January and then I. I think I'd trailed on go anywhere more with Ron funches. In just a second you flew halfway or would it be the whole way around the world to watch a particular event in January. Yes yes they went to the Tokyo Dome and Japan For many reasons I got engaged November and we thought we should celebrate that. And I'd always wanted to go to Japan big fan of wrestling FAN OF ANYTHING COMIC BOOK. Anything video game related. But when I knew that you should thunder allegra was retiring and et me and all my nerve centres of like growing up watching him and Brian. Perelman just being a fan of of when I was a kid seeing him like that is a live action power ranger so all when I knew he. Those are going to be his last two matches in. I had the The time off and the means to go I had to go with the dream. Come true because I've gone to so many resin events but there's nothing quite like the Tokyo Dome in the way that they kind of just sit there respect reverence for the sport because the sport over there. It's still looked at more of the sport than anything and I. It's absolutely crazy. I was lucky enough to do a tour over there. I did. Some death matches over there a long time ago. Many moons ago Which was not in the Tokyo Dome and was not in front of forty thousand people but the the culture itself I had a crazy appreciation for. I definitely fell in love with it. But your point about lighter. That's another one man. I remember him in Bryant Perelman in his whole run in WCW and when lighter did takeover in Brooklyn a few years ago I got to call it and I remember sitting ringside thinking. What the hell has happened in my life. I am in Brooklyn New York calling a thunder liger match and he's wrestling my friend tyler breeze it was just like one of those weird. What the hell's happening moments but it was really cool and stand just when you know. You're you've made decisions in the yourself out. There has been worth it and I had that same type of fill in it I My my fiancee left over me at the Tokyo. Dome and I'm almost near in tears in my eyes is I'm like I've wanted to be here since I was ten years old. I'm sitting here and I'm watching thunder lighter and I'm watching it for Romeo and watching all these people who I watch all across the globe hearing the Japanese women screaming in my ear. And it's like the dream come true eleven important to just take take note of what you get to accomplish. I I get that still from time to time like any time. I get to call an undertaker match or even Goldberg Goldberg. I came back me. I was never even a huge Goldberg Fan as a kid. But just knowing what he meant to that time period that really solidified my fandom. I still get those goosebumps thinking about it. And there's there's nothing cooler than when the glass broke in Madison Square Garden and Stone Cold Game. Walking out and I all of a sudden. Was You know twelve years old again? It was crazy working in entertainment. Kinda gives you this more relevant for like the people who I didn't live in comedy that I love. I Love Dan Cook. I love all these people. I love anyone who's bringing more is what I'm trying to do. Because if they become a fan of them then it brings makes maybe they'll become a fan of comedy and then it gives them and become a fan of me so I just kind of started looking at it that way and stop being like. Oh why don't the people who I alike? Or why aren't they always the most successful? You know personal question. Who are your favorites in comedy? Right now oud. Thank you for asking There's probably a few people who you know who? You don't know This gentleman I'm Andrew Santino Amazing he's great meetings. New Show coming out on fx with this. Rapper named Little Dicky and he's one of the best comedians working today. Just real Personal stuff but also like just some types just flat out route stuff like he's just amazing comedy I've grew up just levitation. Pell and and people like Mitch Hedberg just Lucille Ball. Those were my biggest influences in my comedy and day. Chapelle still is one of the biggest influences who still touchable right now. He is either Mazen. He's a is fun what he can say in in This skill set. He has and one of my favorite things is when someone is whether the music wrestling comedy is when someone has been such tremendous skill set that they can kill in this. Just look like they don't care effortless absolutely are not even just. Everyone's just like they're like at home. I don't care if your ear or not your favorite. I am a massive Bill Hicks Fan. Oh Cool Yeah I love. Bill Hicks one of his best friends. Growing up in Germany named Dwight slade in He was one of my mentors. I started in Oregon But Yeah Bill Bill Hicks Fan since starts before I started very right now. I'm a I'm a massive fan. Anthony Jesernik oh yeah. I love Anthony because of his ability to just go as far off the deep end as possible and still make it funny. I admire that sort of freedom. Yeah because he's got the heart difference between people who say that and it sounds like hate. Speech is Agua exactly on the delivery. Man I mean He. He's he's a master of it right now but I am and I could sit here and talk comedy with you all day but I know you're a busy man we're Can the after the bell listeners? Find Ron funches in the near future you find me. I have a game show coming out on a platform. Called Quimby is nice one. It'd be out this spring and you can check me out on that If you could take your kids to go see trolls world tour where I am. Cooper and that Nestle The franchise people like that. I do stand up all over the world in a mostly American Canada with yeah. They'll run punches dot com and you can find out about that and I have a great podcast called getting better talked to people about their path of getting better at life in their craft. Or whatever they're working on People from Let you from your with negative woods. Catholic Kelly's don't go Steve Austin been on my show and Conan. O'brien has been. It's a pretty cool podcast. It's it's pretty optimistic. Aspirational so I don't know if it's for for your darkness run out of my mouth man. I was GONNA offer and when I don't know man I might sink the ship but I think you'd be actually be really good guests on there because I don't know if you've talked a lot of people giving you enough credit for You know the shift that you've made in your life from being an active wrestler to being a such and break commentator in great Just utility men all across the board for what you do. You work so hard. I remember You probably see me but I was I was whipped Until I was hanging out with him for winning we've got into the duct into the hall of fame is All. I think he worked. Twenty seven shows that that weekends accurate just watching. I was paying attention and I was watching it. I was very impressed with how you were able to maintain your your your cool and maintain your Your head in consume in. What must have been some points being very frustrating. So I would love to talk to you sometime. 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NXTs Adam Cole Versus Johnny Gargano in Toronto

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NXTs Adam Cole Versus Johnny Gargano in Toronto

"If you don't know Sirius X._M.. THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news they have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius X._M.. Outside the car for just one dollar go to Sirius X._M.. Dot Com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer offer available to new series exempt stream subscribers siriusxm no car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show weekdays from nine A._M.. To Twelve P._M.. Eastern on Sirius X._M.. Dan Nation Channel One fifty six welcome to the busted open podcast. This is David Greco on today's episode W._W._e.. Hall of Famer Bully Rain. I talk a little annex T as we get closer to takeover in Toronto. One of the newest members of the eighty W speaks out about shocking act at fight effects and we celebrate the fortieth anniversary of a pro wrestling institution and exte- champion Adam Cole set it on our show last week that is chapter with Johnny Gargano was over well. He may want it to be over but Johnny Gargano certainly is ready for to be fully and I give you are thoughts on cold organic three coming up at takeover in Toronto Shawn Spears shock the wrestling world with this chair shot the head of Cody Rhodes at eight W fighter fans we dissect his comments. Jim Ross about why he did it and who is bringing to all out the standard has gone bus pro wrestling illustrated celebrates fortieth anniversary this year and we talked to the man who makes it all happened. Stu Sacks joins us all that right now on the busted open when we had them Cole on last week and then what we saw last night completely we different so for those who didn't hear it. Let's go back to last week and what Adam Cole had to say about Johnny Gargano. Well you talk about being free. One thing you haven't been able to be free of is Johnny Gargano. What what can we expect gene you to moving forward especially that N._F._C. Championship you have around your waist though we'll let me tell you I feel? I feel like as far as I'm concerned. I've I've proven that point and now I can move on from Johnny. You know I I had my I had my rematch with Johnny. It went well the the annex t champion and now as far as I'm concerned. I'm ready for new challenges. I'm done with Johnny Gargano now. That's what he said last week and it seemed like he was going to fulfil that promise on annex t last night bully because he was actually going willing to give somebody else and opportunity at that annex t championship at the end of the show last night but obviously it didn't go that way. You realize that I'm giving you the opportunity of a lifetime and and don't worry I'm alone. There's no undisputed era. It's just me and it's just you one. I'm GonNa give you a fair chance to. I don't know maybe slot the taste out of my mouth. Just you and me Oh. That's too bad because I didn't come along Birla close since losing over the next chapter again serious taking the fact that well a kiss just can't shake Gargano bowl. It seems <hes> before I get into this I've said before and I want to say it again. Moreover Nao makes everything better. Yes just just listening to the call. I was excited but yeah Gargano and coal three great setup for it. I really I'm excited for it because it's been a hell of a story and I liked the way they're going to blow this off to add a three falls walls and then regal went on social media and said that one guy is going to be able to disarm determine what I what type of matched the first fall will be and then the other guy will get to you determine what the second fall will be and if it's tied at the end of two falls William Regal will decide what the third match stipulation will be. It's interesting because you're you almost no that. They're going to go to the third fall right. Usually it does volley right now if it's William Regal. What type of match do you think or Matt stipulation? Do you think William Regal is going to call for. That's a great question because you know that Colin Gargano we're going to be out for blood so it's going to be interesting what they come up with for those first to falls but William Regal more sensible obviously the voice of reason when it comes to annex stay. I'm wondering what that third and final full is going to be imagine if they went completely backwards. Imagine like coal were to say the first fall is going to be first blood then and then Gargano said that the second fall was going to be like a T._l._C. match and imagine at the end of two falls you got bloody and destroyed guys who can't even get to their feet and then you get to the third fall and William real comes out and says it's going to be a catches catch ten wrestling match like or or like you said like its first blood match where at the end of two bowls they're completely exhausted and William Regal says you know we're we're gonNA have a one hour ironman exactly third and find all that's even better the number looking like are you kidding me but you know what annexed takeover Toronto sold like whatever you put on other than this match fine and Dandy a little gravy on top of the mashed potatoes but the meat and potatoes is going to be this match this match alone cells takeover for me in Toronto auto absolutely these two guys alone sake over for me. They have never let me down. Gargano always gets the job done. Adam Cole always gets the job done. I only got spend a little bit of time with him. In Ring of honor when got there and then he was on his way out I used to sit there and watch the guy perform awesome job every time these guys I mean getting done in Annex T. I'm excited for the two out of three match at takeover and I Dave I actually love your idea. I said let's go backwards with it and you put the Cherry on top. Let's go crazy in the first fall. Go crazy in the second fall and just when these guys are broken battered bruised. Let's go one hour time limit ironman yeah it's like because these guys can pull it off. Yeah and you talk about iron like that would be like iron maiden you know starting to set off with the trooper and you go into the number two BS and then you're encores rhyming the ancient Mariner Karen. That's that's what this annexed takeover match would be and it still again. You know this is where you gotta give Annex T A lot of credit and a lot of fans. You know we talk a lot about Roy. We talked a lot about smackdown annexed always are we seems to be the show that we forget about US fans and even us as broadcasters bully because there's always so much going on with the other shows and this being on the network on Wednesdays. It gets overlooked especially since it's only an our next he continues to do things and do them well. I mean how many times we talk about ban. This rosters depleted how you GONNA move forward. How are they going to get you into a takeover and every single takeover they seem to outdo the last just one and also you talked about more or Nao? I mean listen we could talk about the all time greats but when you look at more is there a better commentator right now than what he's doing Wednesday nights on the next day listen we just listened to a little snippet of the Gargano and Adam Cole stuff and just listening tomorrow. Doing the call of the action made it more exciting for me whenever I watch morrow call boxing match whenever I listened to I'm calling wrestling heath. He has such a unique way of making it more exciting for me. Guys like him and Joey Styles had had this this this way of just I could feel their passion. I could feel their love and their enthusiasm for what they were watching and what they were verbalizing to me as a fan so yeah morals morals phenomenal yeah obviously obviously Jim Ross is the greatest of all time more all right now within the world that a W._w._e.. I think is the best and he has more freedom. When I talk about other announces we're just we just unknown assume that J._R. is the best yeah leaving J._R.? Out of that comment has nothing to do with J._R.'s the end all and then everybody else yeah because like if we had like the Mount Rushmore announcers we would have put Jim Ross because it would be the Jim Ross. It'd be mount. Jim Ross and I think it would be J._R.. Gordon solely holy. I don't know who maybe one day that will save the offer show Bob Coddle. I think is is one that you might wanNA put up there. <hes> mercer with world class is a great one. <hes> boroughs boroughs finding his way moral on the man muscle think about this think about Moro on Monday night raw with no handcuffs on put the problem is there's always going to be handcuffs. I listen I was just playing fantasy land for a second that Moro calling Monday night raw without any restrictions them to saying morrow say whatever you want you know at that is that is fantasy land. That's like selling widgets. Hey what's up because and this is where like you know an ad Michael. Cole gets a lot of unfair criticism because you have to understand what that guy has to do for three hours on Monday night raw. It is a commercial for the network. It's a commercial for the next pay per view. It's a commercial for their social media. It's a commercial for everything else. That's going on in that world the W._W._e.. Universe it's very very difficult to do that and Oh yeah by the way call a match Moro. He asked to mention another event. Yes the mentioned the takeover. Maybe there's something he has to talk about as a sidebar but ninety percent of his job is calling the match. I don't know if there's any other announcers that have the freedom. I'm like a more right now. Keyword freedom. I wish more wrestlers I wish more announcers had freedom and I guess I should say in that in the W._w._e.. Because in companies like impact or ring of honor especially he w that freedom exists likely you're hearing God's busted open live weekdays from nine A._M.. To Twelve P._M.. Eastern on Sirius X._M.. Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius X._M.. APP. You know he's also the editor publisher of the greatest pro wrestling magazine of all time right now the surviving magazine and we bring him in right now the great stu sacks to how are you today. I'm good but I ah I guarantee you. This might not be the best of you guys ever do but I won't hang up on you. We appreciate that and thanks for the confidence too. I think it's GonNa be the best interview we've ever done bully STU. I want to ask you a question Russia right off the bat. Is there a sense of accomplishment or pride knowing that after forty years progressing illustrated is truly like I said earlier you're the Alexander the great of wrestling magazines or the last of the Mohican jer the last one standings. There's gotta be there's gotTa be a sense of accomplishment there. I guess I I mean I in a sense yes in a sense. It's it's kind of sad because there were so many including many many of ours that didn't didn't didn't last as long and I'm sorry about that. You know it's just that's the way the print business. Is these days I it's very very difficult to keep alive in this industry but I think that you know that we pride ourselves on the quality the magazine and I think that the best ones will will you know best if anything will succeed so that's I take a little bit of pride in that. Yes thank you and again forty years. I mean it's one thing to be surviving but forty years of being this type of a magazine that a lot of people consider the Bible of pro wrestling so many stories attached to it so many so many stories that probably fans don't know about I mean you know what is this roller or coaster ride been for you. It's it's been a lot of fun. <hes> I started off. I was twenty three years old right out of college and I did not expect to be doing this for my whole life. My goal is to be a sports report for for daily newspaper and I was <hes> given an opportunity to interview for the job when I was still in college and I was given a writing test and I was offered offered the job and I had to think long and hard about it because you know journalism jobs we've really tough to come by and I was given something that would look like a lot of fun so <hes> I thought long and hard and ultimately turned down the job because I was still in college and I really wanted to graduate. I knew if I went to the magazines I would never finish college so a second second time. Somebody left the magazine and they called me up and it's still you know we the jobs here for you. If you want it and I said same reason guys I I can't do it. I just gotTa Finish College and I was like Oh. I'm never GONNA get another shot at this well. In July of nineteen seventy nine a month after I graduated from college they off the the job again and I was like okay this is it. I'm here so you know it's. It started off just amazing 'CAUSE I. I was with a bunch of guys who were very young and had a we had a lot of fun doing what we did and through the years you know I met a lot of people a lot of people come and gone and I've enjoyed working with I'd say practically everyone and you know the the downside of the roller coaster. Is that now that we're just the only magazine left and we're six times a year. It's it's just me I have freelance writers who are great who work I work with very closely but in the office where we used to have a bunch of guys throwing ideas back and forth at each other. It's just me wow oh yeah so that's that's the bottom of the roller coaster but you know it's the electronic age. You still have pretty close contact with everybody. It's not like I'm you know I'm in a vacuum. I if I put out a email to my all my freelance writers might trusted freelancers. I get answers back immediately immediately with all kinds of ideas and suggestions and it's still pretty good stew is the is there a particular year that you worked for P._W._i.. That really stood out for you a banner year Funnier a year that you will always remember Knbr as being you know your best effort or the magazine's best effort you know I it's hard to like this differentiate the years but I still keep all the <hes> all the sales reports for all the years and and it was fun to get sales reports and see these crazy high numbers back in like nine ended late. Eighties was just unbelievable. If fact at one point in nineteen eighty eight we were outselling sports illustrated on the newsstand. Not I'm not saying we all we outsource sports illustrated because they had you know million subscribers but on the newsstand except for the swimsuit issue we have sold them wow so that that was that was a really good period of time joint stu you know and first of all. I'm glad that there really is a stew sacks because I actually kinda doubted that for quite some time because some of the writers that we grew up reading weren't real map rock Liz Hunter to find out that those were fictional national people that were involved in the magazine was heartbreaking for me and I know right no Liz Hunter. There was no liz hunter. There was no liz hunter but there was guys. Tell him this to me. The people who wrote Liz they were they were the character of Liz and and of course Matt Brock that was written by a whole bunch of different writers excluding me. I've never written as map rock which is amazing but there were a bunch launch of different map rocks so yeah. I'm sorry to let the cat out of the bag but yeah they were few that didn't exist and in fact I'd let off my columnists this issue the one that's just out now saying that proclaiming that yes I do exist and I think I think most people kind of understand that excuse me but you know going to the star cast and being with with everybody and with a lot of fans and a lot of people came up to me and and we're just it was very gratifying for people to come up to me and say you know how much the magazines meant to them over the years and <hes> you know you know people were asking me autographed copies and it was it was it was a lot of fun I in the forty years. I never did a lot of traveling. I never I was I did some but not I was not bill apter or correct peters who were out there all the time and to get amongst the people who appreciate the magazine was very very gratifying bright for me and stew. That's the one thing that why I kinda doubted your existence because you mentioned Craig Peters and bill after as fans we've seen Craig Peters and Bill Apter everywhere. We've seen him at the matches. We've seen on T._B._S. C._B._S.. Back with six Oh five with the N._W._e._a.. You know this week in pro wrestling. We've seen them but we never saw you. You're you're somebody that was definitely behind the scenes. Was that on purpose. It's it's more my personality. They were those those guys are very outgoing and they and they they love to do that kind of thing. That's just not me. I'm more like you know. I'll stay in the office vishal. Be The I'll be the guy back here. I'll I'll I'll do what I have to do from a to get the magazines out but just to get out in do the public appearances was never really something that I I was so particularly good at or was very comfortable doing Dave I am one of the few people and maybe the only person that has a picture with STU sacks and bill apter. Wow so true or not that is true through that I can't remember the name of the event but it was it was someplace here in the suburbs of Pennsylvania and you were there and bill. was there and we got a great picture together and <hes> you. I think you've made a comment. It was like the original original dirty right yeah we were far from that. Well Yeah because you know a lot of people don't know maybe even that read the magazine now that back in the day you know you follow the story lines. You know the a lot of the interviews that you know that we read back in the day. You know that that was within character. You weren't trying to find out about backstage politics or why was this show book to certain way. It was really an extension of what we saw on T._V.. That's exactly right you know we <hes> we sat as a group and we we took what was happening on T._v.. And in the arenas and said how can how could we make take this to the next level and just give give the wrestle is a little bit more. You know a little bit more of a human feel than just you know I'm going to you know I'm going to beat you up in X. Town. You know so you know and that was I think that was the way promos were back earlier earlier and you know th they have a lot more death today of course but we we tried to do that in in the magazines we try to you know if they wrestle is were not shouting in the interviews that we did in the magazines they were. They were talking. We had them alone. There's no they were in arena trying to <hes> you know trying to intimidate their opponent. They were just talking to a reporter so they they were. We presented them in character but in a calmer more cerebral setting stu me and Dave we're talking doc in earlier about your most popular issue. which is the P._W._i.? Five hundred and obviously fans enjoy that issue probably more than any other one or at least I just my opinion. We're also talking about the stock that wrestlers is put in the P._W._i.. Five hundred have you gotten negative feedback from wrestlers themselves about their P._W._i.. Rankings well one of the advantages of staying back behind and letting bill and Craig out into the field and really dealing with with the wrestlers face to face is I. I didn't have to face much of that. <HES> so they bill in particular took the heat <hes> and and and these days you know bill bill's been gone for not gone but gone from the magazines for twenty years and he's still hearing gripes from from wrestlers saying you know why why was four hundred hundred forty four and the P._W._i.. Five hundred bills like you have to understand. I don't work for the magazines anymore yeah but you you you have connections you. You know you're you're still have something to do with it and they'll try to explain to them that no but then Dan Murphy's out there a lot and Dan is really the he's the guy who spearheads the P._W._i.. Five hundred and I think I think he hears from wrestlers and it's not always a negative way in a lot of the guys are very very grateful and very very positive and they they understand that their placement into just being placed in the five hundred could mean something something to them financially and they play off of that and they <hes> you know somewhere I I'm sorry but I can't remember the name of the wrestler but he he actually asked me for permission to to have P._W._i.. Five hundred belt made and he was I think he was number five hundred in the five hundred one year so he was the P._W._i.. Five hundred champion and <hes> it's like yeah have fun with it. Go for it. You know stupid. Did it bother you that you know people refer to the wrestler. Or inside wrestling sports review wrestling and obviously pro wrestling straight as after mags. I mean obviously bill after a big contributor to all those magazines but did that ever bother you to be perfectly honest. It does a little of it. I mean there's nothing there's nothing like due to change the fact that that's the way they're I don't think anybody does it with any malicious intent but and even bill when he's when he's approached with after mags term he he tries to push it away saying look. I didn't come up with that term <hes> he he says Dave Meltzer. Did I read it. The David was Vegas and he they Nelson says he didn't come up with it. But <hes> it's bill bill tries to explain to people that it was he was the face of the magazine but the whole producing the magazines was was a group effort and <hes> you know he was just one aspect of it very very very vital aspect of it but just one aspect and we we couldn't have done it without everybody who was on the staff so <hes> I prefer the term west and Max because Stanley Western was the creator and the owner of the magazines for all those years so I think that's that encapsulates what the magazines these were a little bit more precisely but you know if people want to call them the APP demands. That's all right to STU. Has We've had this conversation before a lot of the interviews that you've done in p._W._i.. are so much like pro wrestling like fabricated story lines. Are there any legitimate sit downs you've done with the boys or the women and if so which ones well that was the way to magazines we're done for for many many many years where where we would with the trust of the industry and quoting the wrestlers in character. They said you know go for it. You know there's no reason to call you know bully Ray in and ask him questions. It's like it when when he's in character because it's like it's like calling <hes> Lucille Ball and interviewing her as as Lucy Ricardo it it doesn't make any sense it's character and as long the industry trusted us to do it correctly and we and we I think we earned that trust and ninety nine point nine percent of the wrestles. We're fine with it. That's the way we did things back then but the industry has changed things have changed. The magazine has changed age. We don't do that anymore. At all we don't we don't fabricate any stories any quotes and in fact I I encourage the <hes> when I give a writer and assignment. I talked to talk to the wrestler. Get something from and engage them in conversation and every one of them has better real life story than anything that we could possibly come up with <hes> so and it's up to it's up to you engage engage the the wrestler in that kind of conversation and giving something that that the readers would not repeal to read and Wikipedia and it always comes back with with a far better story then we anything we could ever create <hes> before we had John Boy and I were talking about how so not only wrestlers but even promoters reacted to the power rankings you know you're rankings. Were so vital for pro wrestling fans that didn't get to see every single show. Do you have any remembrances or stories of certain run-ins you might we've had with wrestlers or with promoters when it came to the rankings again that that would be that would be a bill thing. I'm safe in the office bill out there facing these two hundred seventy five pound giants asking them why why was I nine instead of six in the W._w._f.. Ratings and and bills answer was always you know we basically reflect the the push and the of what you're getting in the promotion so if if if you're a number one in the ratings that means your your main event or if you're obviously champion is the champion so you know I think that they pretty much understood <hes> and we got we we all bill also would call the offices and he would get a lot of feedback from the offices on you know who should be ranked. What's what's going on that we knew what was going on but they they had better insight into into those kind of rankings than than we could and we took what they said and waited with our views and came up with the rankings in that wait for some of our younger listeners who are obviously caught up in the technology age might not read wrestling magazines anymore or magazines and general who are listening to you right now might be saying wow this magazines been around for forty years? I'd love to check it out where ten fans fine pro wrestling illustrated these days. What's the easiest way to get your hands on issue of P._W._i.? Okay the easiest way is to go to our website which is <hes> p._W._i.. Dash online dot com and we offer there the the access to the print edition or the the digital edition which they could which they could immediately eighty download to their whatever device they have and we even have it customize so that it works best on a on a on a phone <hes> so that's that's the best way to do it. I mean you could still go to the newsstands. <hes> unfortunately nationally the the because decline of the print industry the newsstands or there are fewer newsstands and what's out there. Are there there there racks are getting smaller so I you know great if you can find the magazine at the newsstands that's that's a great way to buy it but to me go to the website order it or better yet subscribe and you're saving fifty percents off what you'd pay at the newsstand anyway so that's that's a me is the best best best route all rights to forty years fortieth anniversary of pro wrestling illustrative bully said you're the lone survivor. It's it's unbelievable and STU. I know you have the podcast as well for P._W._i.. <hes> before forty years man it's something that <hes> he should be very very proud of and congratulations and thanks so much for taking time for us today. I appreciate that you guys had me on it and I encourage anybody who's a fan of wrestling magazines or pro wrestling illustrated straight in particular to go go to our website and click on the stream the podcast we have a two hour long podcast with with <hes> bill after Peter's and me hosted by Al Castle Wow and I it's it's a we had a gas. Doing it was a lot of fun and there's some pretty cool testimonials from people in the industry including one day look record and I appreciate that they've and there's some are there some more out there and it's a lot of fun so if you want to know more about the magazines beans and the history and a lot of stuff that we've never revealed before that's a place to go all right. Stu Sacks editor publisher of pro wrestling illustrated the Bible to a lot of pro wrestling fan STU. Thanks again for the timing congratulations. Thank you David Bowie. Take Care Buddy if you don't know Sirius X._M.. Then listen commercial free music plus sports comedy talk 'n news they have it. All a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius X._M.. But you don't you can listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three three months of Sirius X._M.. Outside the car for just one dollar just go to Sirius X._M.. Dot Com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe you can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius X._M.. Dot Com slash busted offer available to new series exempt streaming subscribers Jason Siriusxm no car required and obviously Shawn Spears with that shot her around the pro wrestling world on cody Rhodes and a bloodied cody Rhodes and now Shawn Spears calling himself to chairman chairman of a e w but as I said J._r. sat down with Shawn Spears and I question was why did he attack cody Rhodes. How many of those people would you consider in your inner circle? Your close close friends would be fifty twenty five ten. Maybe five five people that I let into my inner circle five people that I trust that I planned on keeping near and dear to my heart art until the day that I died cody was one of them. There's certain things that people in regular life you just not supposed to do. There's certain things you don't you don't say in the wrestling industry there are certain terms and certain things you also don't say especially within your core group cody crossed the line and I think you know what I'm talking about right. I got a good idea. It's changed coaches. Put on a suit he'll give them self nice fancy executive vice president title and he's saying the same damn thing that they have said for nearly eight and a half years he's changed. You don't call someone a good hand J._R.. A lot to think sean he didn't mean it in a derogatory manner but I can certainly understand in your angst that you took it that way. It's it's a curse of this industry to be called a good hand. You know this forty years you know this you understand what I'm talking about. He should know better J._R.. Clearly forgotten that's why I rapped the steel chair around his face fighter fast. Sometimes people just need to be reminded. Cody did call him a good hand so when you hear you're a good hand what our thoughts that come to mind kiss of death by calling somebody a good little worker. You're are good hand basically means. You're no better than amid Carter at any point year career. You'll always have a job because you're a good hand. You can get the job done but you're never going to be a superstar and if you speak week cody which is very interesting language you know that cody knew exactly what he was saying about Shawn Spears so all somebody if a wrestler says to another wrestler your brother. You're a good hand that other wrestler is going to take a massive offense to it. It's almost like being called the hamburger you get the job done. You're going to have a ham ham and Eggers more of a job or an enhancement talent frank the Falco before Franken he just punches radio. I Love Frankie. You love everybody except Becky you love. Everybody unbelievable. Anyway in the conversation continued now. There's been a lot of talk in rumor about somebody being by Sean Spear side. Let's see what Shawn Spears had to say to good old J._R.. Dr He forgot that I was there for the fiftieth wedding anniversary of his parents. He forgot that I sat at the table for Thanksgiving dinner. He's forgotten who he was. He goes brothers. We were so it took a steel chair to remind him of one simple common denominating in fact he bleeds the exact same color that I do so all out Chicago August thirty I I'll be there and as the old resilient roads family lineage tells us he'll show up and I'll make an example of you have no doubt he's GonNa etc challenge because I know he's a row. He needs to know face to face. Why and I just so happen have an awesome I sleep J._R.? The greatest battles wars in history weren't one with the biggest weapons of the strongest soldiers they were one with. At the greatest minds thanks Kelli J._R.. This interview needs to be sure totally now. If you don't know who totally is it's Tully blanchard so Shawn Spears Ace in the whole the man by his side Tied Hall of Famer Tully Blanchard bully interesting to see a w a company that is so progressive using legends like Tully Blanchard to advance and give the rub today younger talent. What did I say they should do it? Rory Union make sure those legends rub on the younger town put them in the position to succeed the minute tully blanchard whispers in Shawn Spears ear. He is a bigger star in that moment that he has ever been. He's a bigger star than when he cracked that chair overs cody's head that's Tully Blanchard. That's one of the original four horsemen and he's whispering in Shawn's ear Sean knows that he's got totally in his back pocket and up his sleeve boom. I also find it interesting that they're still relying on the story that basically raw revolves around dusty right yep who was one of dusty archrivals ric flair and Tully blanchard well tully early Blanchard was his is totally blanchard was yeah I mean you talk about the four horsemen ric flair only Anderson Arn Anderson Barry Window but always tully blanchard. Yes some blood feuds some bloody matches with Tully blanchard absolutely didn't they even have like a barbed wire match or some kind of I mean I remember at the at the meadowlands in Jersey them having a cage match together that was off the off the chain so if you have tully in Shawn Spears corner obviously you'd love to have dusty in cody's corner. Yeah who's cody going to have to turn to now. I don't know if he turns to anybody but obviously he would turn to to his. I would I would think you would turn to his brother does right. I love the fact I've seed this. I have now seen the seed planted for the two thousand nineteen version version of the story of the roads family moving forward tully an old nemesis coming back to be in the sheet in the ear of Shawn Spears totally being able to tell Shawn Spears. I know everything that goes through the mind of a roads and have dusty thought it then Dustin thought it and have dustin thought it then cody will think it and there's your story. It's amazing how eighty w is telling stories you know they don't have weekly television and sometimes the W._W._e.. Mrs Demark and storytelling and they have all those hours of programming coming and I love what you I said. It got me excited because you're absolutely right. Shawn Spears did more to get over with telly whispering in his ear and that sit down with J._R.. Then hitting cody Rhodes and ahead with that chair right give me that again. I repeated what you said that Shawn Spears got moreover by having Tully blanchard whispering in his ear in that sit down with J._R.. Then that that chair shot to the head had cody Rhodes one thousand percent because that's the rub that's when you have a legend in the same shot in the same ring in the same sit down as you're up and coming star who was Shawn Spears before he crack the chair over cody's head. He was tied dillinger failed in the W._W._e.. Who is he now? He is somebody that obviously with having totally in his ear and cody as his nemesis is a main event wrestler for eight. Hey W boom and that's how you create stars over night. You put them in there with the right people and as many guys in a e w who might be doing a bunch of moves and athleticism and spots that might not mean nothing to some people because it's just spots for the sake spots. They're also giving you cohesive storytelling. I enjoyed the I sit down between J._R.. J._R. and Sean and J._R. Took a back seat to Sean which I love J._R.. Didn't try to come over the top. J._R. DIDN'T TRY TO PUT SEAN in a corner J._R.. Just kind of hey man I get where you're coming from MM-HMM J._R. Gave Shawn Spears the spotlight Shawn Spears the former tied dillinger is now basically kind of taking the lead role in an sit down with J._R. and has tully in his back pocket. How the Hell did E W do in one month which Shawn Spears that the W._w._e.? Couldn't do in ten years with tied diligent. Think about that bully that <hes> fighter fest took place June twenty-ninth. That's when Shawn Spears took the chair to Cody's head here we are. We're sitting talking about this on July eighteenth not even a month has even been a month and that guy went from somebody. Who was you know gone from the W._W._e.? And really hadn't make made a market e w either now all of a sudden. He's a main of wrestler now all of a sudden. You're going to buy a ticket to see him. Go up against cody Rhodes in the main event in a match. Have we ever seen situations. It's like this before and history of pro wrestling yeah. We've we've seen we've we've seen what's what's the best example what pops the mind how about Eric Bischoff telling Steve Austin that nobody that wears black trunks and black boots will ever get over in the wrestling business one company saw absolutely nothing in a guy named Steve Austin and a different company made him or they made each other into probably one of the stop to of all time crazy. Isn't that crazy how if again and here is a situation bully where you gotta give eighty w a lot of credit and why this is GonNa give you a lot of promise going into their weekly show. Come the four because of what you just said Bull you said the W._W._e.. And all those years couldn't do anything with tied dillinger within a month eighty W is able to make that guy into a main event wrestler and look at what they did with him. Listen it is obvious that cody is the dusty of a e w Yes yes one hundred percent here comes Shawn Spears Cody's real life F- friend who was called what was he called the good hand. A good hand called a good hand. Dude we could be the best friends in the world of Dreamer ever referred to me as a good hand. I punch launch him in his fat face. You just don't say that Shawn Spears cracks over the head boom overnight. We know who he is. Shawn Spears sits down with J._R.. Boom we know who he is. Tully tully Blanchard is now hanging in banging with Shawn Spears. Remember when flair was hanging out with with triple h the up how much more over which triple h for hanging out with ric flair hanging in there with the best takes you to the next level and great job and again. What do we always say a good head? Coach puts their players in positions to succeed. How do you make this story right first of all you have him? Sit Down with Jim Ross the greatest of all time and go after cody Rhodes. It's the creative mind behind e w and what do you have at the end of the day a real alleged like tully blanchard whispering in his ear and he just made a main event wrestler likely you're hearing God's busted open live weekdays from nine A._m. p._m.. Eastern on Sirius X._M.. Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius X._M.. If I had the pence so we're GONNA get Qodian Shawn Spears at all out correct. Yes I would hope so. Yes who's GonNa be in Cody's who's going to be in Shawn Spears. Corner looks like it's going to be tully blanchard. And who do you think who would you imagine would be in Cody's Corner Dustin. I don't want dusted in cody's quarter. ooh WanNA bring this story from thirty or forty years ago lowered. You know who you have in Cody's corner. Can I guess no because you're gonNA guess right if I could the look on your face and I ain't let you steal my fund a kid. You have the enforcer you have double A. Arn Anderson in the corner of cody row yes. What do you think Dave? I love it. I love it because who who's the great equalizer. It's Arn Anderson. It's the enforcer like you said and air is history there. The story writes itself we we are taking something from what forty years ago and fast forwarding it to to younger talent who are going to be able to get it done in the ring the legends on the outside the young young studs on the inside. Can you imagine the face to face between orange and totally amazing. Can you imagine what the match is going to be like that is great storytelling. That's that's how it should be done just sitting here thinking about it. I'm emotionally invested in that match. Wow what's going to happen when on and totally go face to face cody going to get his re sheet receipt on on Sean for the chair shot what's going to happen if this is they're going to be turn on turn with tully because they used to be together. All I'm getting goosebumps just talking out loud and again what it does bring generations of pro pro wrestling fans that want to tune into that match and it does not hurt the two guys that are in the ring with any other with any of these other matches that revolve around athleticism. I don't feel this this way because I can't sink my teeth into emotions of love and hate not that I can't sit back and appreciate a high spot match but I appreciate storytelling and characters and in chrome os a lot more than I do a lot of the flips and flying I agree. Let's finish up with the nation. Let's go out the Charles in Nebraska Charles. What'd you WANNA say about eight W yeah actually I was Kinda thinking when you guys were talking talking about the Shawn Spears interview and everything like that and I don't know where to contract situation is and I don't know what he's going to do in terms of gender but what does this leads to down the line cody and brandy versus Shawn Spears and Tessa Blanchard? I mean again Charles. Thanks for the phone call. <hes> Dad all depends on what Tessa Blanchard's future is with impact wrestling but you know that could be a possibility down the road but I think the story that they're telling right now and WHO's involved.

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Reaction to NXT and LAX Drops By

"If you don't know Sirius XM, then listen, up commercial free music, plus sports, comedy, talk and news. They have it all. And right now, you can get your first three months of serious accent outside the car for just one dollar. Go to Sirius XM dot com slash busted to see offer tells and to subscribe offer available to new series, XM streaming subscribers Sirius XM, no car required. This is the busted open odd cast, you can listen to the full show weekdays from nine AM to twelve PM eastern on Sirius XM bite nation channel one fifty six. Welcome to the bus that open podcast. This is Matt Cam on today's episode EC w legend, Tommy dreamer and I breakdown annex t takeover twenty-five and welcome one of the hottest tech teams in the world into the studio Adam colon. Johnny Gargano had a match of the year contender at takeover. What's next for Gargano now and can Adam Pol reach the next level without his friends in the undisputed era, plus the impact wrestling tag team, champions, LAX, antenna and Ortiz. Join us in studio. We talk about their tremendous feud with the loser brothers and potential rematches with the young bucks, and the Briscoes all that right now on the busted open podcast. The bar is set high for an x t takeovers they came through again. And we got a rematch of New York, Tommy with Johnny Gargano defending against Adam Cole. But this time it was Adam Cole coming away with the victory and. Let's start with Adam Cole because a lot of people believe that this was long overdue. He as a single star. This goes back to basically everywhere. He has worked. He gets his crowning moment he does so without any help. I wanna start right there with that, is that the right decision for Adam Cole to get the victory with really no help at all as a heel over Johnny Gargano after the way they've built Gargano up. Man, the kid is over. He always, I've wrestled them arrested him twice. You always greatness in him, then he went to ring of honor. He really excelled. Then he got signed in annex t his whole group is in over over group bunch of great guys and great entering competitors. Sometimes, you know, the he'll can just win beat your champ, as I mean, also because if you look at Johnny Gargano I wanna say he is almost like Teflon losses. Don't mean anything to him. It's part of his struggle. He's so, so talented. And he's I'm not comparing him to me, because he's a much better wrestler. But Gargano can lose every single match and stay over with the fans. It's like he's the best underdog that you could ever have. I'll give you the comparison, I think I've always made his Daniel Bryan in WWE, is, is that underdog quality that people can. Get behind, and he can lose a lot. And when he does win it comes across in such a big way as it did in New York when he won the title, but not Tommy, he lose it in his in his first defense and he's got to build this way back up. And this is a guy who I, I don't know if there isn't arguments made, and maybe it's because he's been there for so long, take that as a good or a bad thing, he feels like he is the greatest annex t superstar of all time. And now has dropped the title and has held every title there, do you still think that there is something left for Johnny Gargano in the next day? I think it's the best place for Johnny Gargano because again how much he's loved. He has been there for quite some time. But sometimes mainly all the time, a lot of towns get lost in the shuffle. Once you go up to the main roster. What would Johnny Gargano probably be a two oh, five? Live guy and to me, he. He is so much better than that. He needs to be on the main stage. But you know until there is a switch of thinking up for the main roster. It isn't going to happen. So why not just stay where you are and continue to be the greatest, or if w live events are struggling? Why don't you start putting some annex t matches on there and show the world? Just how great his talents. Are we got to see a quick glimpse of him when he got called up right? And then all of a sudden you saw very, very quickly besides his partner getting hurt that this might not be the proper fit for him. So you mentioned that he was kind of, on his way up on that time with ricochet and Alastair black, and they remained up and he was tagging with ciampa and then Champa gets hurt. He's gone, they decide were sending Johnny back. He's not coming up. I, I don't know if people know this, I believe there were vignettes run, and maybe they didn't take much of it, Johnny. And, and Tomasz Tomasa worse boast to be part of the cruiserweight division from the. Go. I don't know if that's out there, but it was a thing and then they decided no we're not gonna put them as part of the cruise weight division. We want to turn that into a very long feud. I think in the end that paid off. I don't know if maybe their Bank accounts would disagree. I'm not gonna talk money but that was what it was supposed to be. They were supposed to be part of the cruiserweight division. And instead, they had one of the best feuds in all of wrestling of the last five or ten years. So two times Tommy, there's been almost a tease of Gargano coming up to the main roster and instead neither time, it's happened, the second time he becomes an X T champion as a result. And now he's dropped that title again, you just feel like everybody else who's moved up. Has done. So after dropping the title in after completing their journey. It just doesn't feel like there's anything left or him in annexed T. But at the flipside, I do understand why there's trepidation for his fans or fans in general about bring him up. So I feel like he's kind of in purgatory right now. I think I I don't feel that it's purgatory because again he's over there, and he can do whatever he such an he could help make the next stars he 'cause he will stay think of all the great rematches big if he gets some guys behind him to go after the undisputed era. So with Jani man it, it sucks. But I think most of it is due to his size for the main roster. Right. It's a hype thing, and that's always been a thing. And WWE unle- you know unless you're Ray mysterious, but there's only one Ray mysterious, and so for I think it's a better place for him to be mentally because. Because if I think for you for me and for everybody in the nation, you can all start thinking about people who were on annex t that got called up and where are they they're nowhere there? Some guys are even just twenty four seven fodder right? Was oh terrible. That's not fair to those guys and it's packed roster. But I feel like our Gano is the one right now more than anybody where. And this is always kind of just a lazy take off. They go up there they're dead. They're not going to use them. But with how many people were pushed up to the main roster of that have been used in various levels? I mean, I feel people are this might be coming from the Holy See three thing that he is fodder. He is background. He is on main event. He's nothing more than that. Even though he looks like a guy that Vince, should love you barely see the guy Dina, you know, Moxley has talked about how the work that he did with them. Maybe didn't do any favors. I you know. For what you will. That's coming from him. He's not there anymore, but it feels like there's the bad taste in the mouth of fans more than ever about their guys coming up. And I guess it's because of ricochet and Alastair black and heavy machinery and LARs in an e three and there's different circumstances there. But there's more than ever that bad taste in the mouth. And I wonder is there I said, purgatory is there an intermediary area, could you have Gargano p onto a five live? But also beyond an x t is, is that the happy medium perhaps for Gargano for monetary value for him. But then maybe from a fan thing, where, hey, we get to see him someone on the highest level. But also, we get to still see him in the next day, you know, WWE has promoted that annex t is its separate brand. If this guy is going to be the face of annex, t he's going to be they're also think about the beauty of him on an XT where you get to see him in long match rice. Trust me. You're talking to someone who for a long time was an outcast in the WWE system I, I was there, but every time I go out what do they remind me of where I wrestled still to this day, e c w I couldn't be Tommy dreamer and that's I would get it from the fans. And this was before social media. Now, I you know, and it's also then it's also the perception value. Are you going to be on the main roster? Are you gonna be a New York Yankee or you're going to be in triple AAA? And if you're going to be called up this day and then brought back down, then it's like they really don't have you have to be so careful because it could hurt your brand Tyler breeze. There were doing nothing with him. Absolutely nothing with him. And now we got it was almost like a wow. Who's this guy? He's always been there. And if he could shine they're great one. What about Tom Tyler breeze and Johnny Gargano as a team together that could be an amazing team. Tommy we taught touched. On the Adam Cole victory. He had the undisputed Arab behind him for just about his entire run here. Obviously debuting with Colorado and Bobby fish having a Roddy strong with him. All of those guys were an actual talk about their out throughout the show, but he was the one who came out victorious as the leader as the champion as I believe, the face of annex t, and you could hear the pop there, and we know that crowds different that what's going to be on raw or smackdown. But you could hear the pop in the crowd in Bridgeport, when he won that title over somebody that everybody loves as we spoke about in Johnny Gargano, Adam Cole now as the man and enact t I ask you this does he need the undisputed era as the champion is that something that you would keep him with in that group that faction setting or is that something that maybe they should look to move away from I like the group like the setting I do not watch an x t the. Regular programming. I watched the takeover shows. Okay. Or super duper exciting. But I know of everybody because one of my personal relationships with them. But also groups have been known to work in professional wrestling. It keeps everybody I feel together. Moreover, if they wanted to split them apart, then someone needs to be the new leader of the group. And but then Adam Cole turned straight up baby face, which I know he can be, but you don't I don't know if you wanna do that, right. Or right away. Right. Not right away. I agree. Now, let's say down the road whenever this would be he's on his way up. Do you feel that an, an once again, this is a size thing in Vince? His is do you feel like he'd have? Be perceived better with a group behind him. Knowing he's not the biggest guy we've seen him in rumbles. We've seen what he looks like compared to other guys. I don't take it as a negative. But I know advance McMahon thinks would he be better off on a move to the main roster with a group behind him? Well, I mean that's kind of down the road. It's also down the road too, for the simple fact of he I mean he's the next champion. Yes. Because when you are smaller, and you're in a group it's it's a numbers game. And that always helps you. And if you guys out there listening, if you think about the history of professional wrestling. And it's you know, when Shawn Michaels turned heel on mardi genetic you know, he was at one level. But then, when did he become the next level when he had big daddy, cool, right? As his bodyguard, so that was his heater, the wrestling business. If you look at every Booker will always book people as an extension of what they see themselves fences, a big jacked up, dude, thence, always has had his big jacked up dudes as champions, from hulk HOGAN, Brock Leser, the ultimate warrior. It's also a formula that works for him. So how do you and I listened and I watch on social media, and I'm in agreeance when the businesses down who does? Vince, usually go to his workers, the Bret Hart's the Shawn Michaels, the stone cold, Steve Austin's. So it's that mix. But that's how it's always been, you know, we're just down in Nashville. They about booking Jerry Jarrett, Jerry. Jared who'd he always have smaller guys working territory, the Crockett's smaller guys, the only times where people didn't use wrestlers because of their look slash, you know, muscles all that stuff was dusty Rhodes, right and Paul Heyman. They just book it for what they could draw money with. But again, you can't tell that to a guy who's outlasted every territory where your full formula is wrong, Vince, the fans want to see it. I wanna see it but until either there's a change. So the best fit may be for them to get called to the main roster, eventually would be in a group, because they could be very, very DX like right? And W O ask, and I think that might work better for. Guy like coal, because we saw the match he had with Jani multiple matches. The guy can can go with anybody in have a outstanding. In ring wrestling, matches regardless if he's a face, or a heel, and he can wrestle and look legitimate via his wrestling is that someone with a group that maybe should change his style or the way they book him a bit. Maybe he's more of a chicken shit kinda guy with a group behind him. Would that work better for him on the main roster considering his size? It's really whatever he's primed out to be if you think of annex, t what it's supposed to be supposed to be a developmental system to get you for Ryan roster. But yet you don't have the quality of matches when you come up to the main exact little talking about. So, and then you have to think about Ken, you get over in a three minute segment, or a three minute match as opposed to your long drawn us up. The answer is, yes, you can if given that opportunity. And how it's the best way to seize that opportunity. You know, it's funny when DX came along, it was an amazing group. But like an if the underdog the, the biggest underdog in wrestling was ex- popped up. And if anyone has ever met ex puck, you look at him XBox, a big dude. And he was considered the small underdogs to think of that perception. And it's, it's just it's a whole other system. And if you playing if you're playing for the Dallas Cowboys, it's a different system if you're playing for the giants or, you know, when you're traded people always say, hey, maybe a trade is good for them Sonny gray of the Oakland Athletics oth ever, the Yankees need in the team. They get him. He's crasher. He goes to Cincinnati, he's doing better. So I it's just it's, it's such a hard hard thing. If you look at again, the beauty of all the wrestling the young bucks, Cody, they know who they are. They're given time for what they're doing. That's kind of what we used to do in EC w. And it's so far a system proven that it's working its perception. It's how you present anything. And that's I'm just on. I look, I would love Adam Cole and undisputed area if they were to come up together the exact same group that could have outstanding wrestling matches that could be smarmy heels that could be underhanded, but also then back it up in the ring. I'm just trying to look from okay? How is this going to work? We don't have another annex t misstep coming to the main roster. It is that a way to kind of pivot a little bit. And go okay if we gotta work as you said, a three minute segment, you know, is there a little cheating to win? Is it not Adam Cole having a an in ring classic for fifteen minutes because we know he's not going to get those opportunities. Is that a way to find the happy medium where you keep the group together you treat them as yields? They cheat to win. It's not necessarily, what he's been doing for his career, because he is such a great wrestler. But is that the happy medium to make Vince happy and go? Oh, yes, this group is credible. This is the best way to do it. Even if that means from fan's perspective of the match quality isn't quite what we're used to an XT. It's, it's an interesting take. Here's he AJ styles. Right. Hop guy, what why isn't AJ styles to oh, five live guy, you know why? Because AJ styles has learned how to be a top guy from his years and impact, new Japan pro wrestling than to the WWE and his injuring ability is what got him there. But then it's also his presence on the microphone and AJ wasn't always a good talker. If you look at the talent that have survived, and when I say, survived Ramos stairs, the greatest underdog to, but he does moves like Ray mysterious. Right. No one could work like Ray mysterio still to this day. Same with AJ styles. And there's people who get lost in the shuffle for, for various reasons, and then I mean, there's only and I say this all the time when people like, hey, I want to work your shows. I wanted to there's only so much matches, you can have there's only there's a three hour show. How do you feel it might gonna fill it with the unknown guy or am I gonna fill it with because it's all about ratings? Once you get to television men. It's, it's a fight and a battle. So that's why I say, maybe you should just be happy where you're at hell. If e c w was still around, I'd probably still be there because I knew who I had to be I had control. I had control of my character. I made me happy. And you know what we saw in Moxley is give us a little bit of creative freedom in annex t they have more ways lengthwise matches time right to be creative, and that means a lot to a lot of wrestlers, I'll almost all of them. That's the thing, though, is how do we fix this? That's what I'm trying to get at here is I'm trying to look at it from that main roster angle. I don't want to. I'm just trying to be realistic is how do we fix this? How do these guys keep getting lost in translation? How do we make sure that, that transition actually works? Part of that is a story. There's gotta be something there, there's gotta be a plan. You can't try how do you fix this? In a sense of when you're also telling somebody that doesn't think it's broken. And how do you tell a person who just received a billion dollars that four his programming that it's broken? Earl I'm saying my point is to get into Vince is, is how do we, how do you play Vince? That's my point. You could be the greatest worker in the world. But he just has to see something in you. That's professional wrestling. Paul Heyman saw something in me that Vincent men not so much. I could literally look at you and say man, you're the you're the best. You're my heavyweight champion and you could be like Tommy, I'm not arrested. Yes, you are. And then tomorrow it's like why is this guy champion? You said he is, and he'd say, no, no. I didn't and then oh, make them announcer. You renounce all along. Right. It's that crazy at times. But it's, it's just what triple, h he's helping run an XT or if he's running on exte-. He see something in you. How can he say man? This guy was my greatest champion. He drew all the houses down an XT, and then really what's exte-, if you think about it annexed he has done five takeovers. They don't twenty-five. They celebrated their five year anniversary. That's five shows a year as opposed to Vince is nine million shows. Yeah. Much. And I also don't know if people on the next t- roster can keep up that pace for every single if you were if they did like a tornado I'm sure those people are there exhausted. They're also young, most of my younger. So I it's the it's not even getting lost in the shuffle. It's it's having all your players. It's having all your teammates go out there, perform to the best of their ability, and some may fit for the right reasons. I'm not I could I could probably form a roster of people who are not used on the main Oma goodness doesn't even I there's also, there's people annex t to oh that. I don't think people understand how big of a lake. Three hundred. A hundred but it's people we haven't seen that are getting trained, the ground up. There are people that we know and love that we haven't seen likely you're hearing God's busted open, live, weekdays from nine AM to twelve PM eastern on Sirius XM fight nation channel one fifty six or on demand with the theories XM app right now. We have the impact tag team champions with us here in studio in New York LAX is here, Santana and Ortiz guys. Good to be with you this morning. Joe is good to be man. How's it going? All right. We're good to have you back here. So you've been busy. What were you what were you guys doing this weekend? We're, we're we're yet. Because you're banged up. Dude, say you're pretty banged up lift in. You got a black guy here. But you're with us, we appreciate that. What were you got? How did that happen this week? We were this weekend. We were down in Tijuana, Mexico for a triple a house show. And before that, like the day before we were like an England and then before that we were in Texas like the past. Has just been nonstop back and forth when it comes to the, the travel, schedule, how much is that picked up? Was there a time when you went, oh this pick this old crap work in every week and a work, and in UK work in Canada, work, and in Mexico, was there a time you remember in the last year or two and you said, okay, we're here, we're, we're, we're working? Yeah. I think. Let's say two years ago, the past two years has been just insane in everything is just picked up. Tremendously has been awesome. Pretty much as soon as we signed with impact. Our schedule is picked up substantially. We, we honestly, we don't even drive anymore, which is awesome. Because we used to drive twelve nine hours, eight hours, seven hours, five hours all the time to shows, and now it's maybe we all I think the only show we drive forwards beyond wrestling, because they're Massachusetts. And there's about a three hour drive everywhere else we have flown out to and it's awesome. To finally get to that point, where people fly us out, and we don't have to. Well, I don't have to drive. He doesn't drive just sleep so. Yeah. The paying dues process and over. I mean, I've, I've seen you guys for a long, long time. And you know, you're in ring ability is amazing. But you could see it for guys like you, your talent got you over your connection with the people. And then it happens just like that you get signed to impact wrestling, and you I don't wanna say you fell into, but you were searched out by Conan to replace LAX. It pops you guys and then it's just your off. And I'm telling you, you're going to turn around and you're gonna be forty eight years old. And he's like, wow, what a hell of a ride. And, and that's what I love about it. You not again. I know you guys both very, very personally. I know for you. You told me Santana that, like you had a real job. And then you're like you know what? I'm investing in me. I'm quitting my real job, which I can't wait for you to tell what you did. And to go out there and become a pro wrestler. What's crazy is. It's funny that you bring that story up because, you know, on the way down here, take the to train down from the Bronx. And I took the exact same route that I would take every day to work, and I pass by the same work building that I worked at in the whole, I worked literally across the street at eleven fifty five and just this whole morning. I was thinking to myself, it's crazy. That just three years ago, I would take this trip every single day and be miserable and have to come sit in office and all that stuff. At now I'm taking this trip to go sit in a studio with Tommy dreamer, and as the longest reigning tag team champions impact history. And like it's pretty dope. Just tell the people have to wear it was. But what used to do? I used to be a conference coordinator for law firm. Yeah. Man, he's a real, real person sit around and be was like Corp. People like you can't, but we just want to beat the hell of you throw. We won't we'll conference quarter like what is what does that would pretty much I would pretty much schedule and set up meetings for lawyers? So you've got to do all the fun conference calls and all that. Can you hear me? It's muted and all that, not better. I watched your documentary on the fight network and you talked about, like where you guys came from and your story. And how your upbringing shaped TASR you are characters evolve over time, do you still have pieces of that in you? Do you feel like it's important to be kinda connected that both of you can kind of answer this year. You know, I'll start using to tell like where you came from, you could tell people about that a little bit. They could see him in the dock put how that shaped who you were, and maybe who you are today. It. It's crazy. Because I, I look back at the person I used to be in, like damn. I was really that person like in I you know. I did a lot of bad things that I regret in my life. You know what I mean? But of course, it got me to this point, ensured me, a better person, and I learned from these things, and I got older, and wiser and more mature and stuff. But. Listen to that. That's called life. Yeah. When you have children that changes your life, hell you. There are certain moments where you're like, man, I can't believe do that. But those are things one, you do it in your guys case survival debt hundred. You didn't grow up in the nicest of neighborhoods, you had to do stuff to help you survive every day, hell going to school every day is a fight. So, and then once you it's called getting older and learning from your mistakes, and stuff like that, man, I it's there's not one person out there who's not thinking in the best is like for me. I try to pass my knowledge to other guys. And then you guys do the same because I remember the first time I saw you at Haussa glares like man, you guys are pretty good. Hey to this do this. But it was like, whoa, these guys want it. And but every mistake that you may you learn from it, and you move forward yelling that is called life. Yep. Impact TV tapings Thursday and Friday, Melrose ballroom Queens, New York. Slamma versus Sunday on July seventh in Dallas impact. Wrestling dot com for tickets and info. Coming into impact wrestling, you said how, how that's brought you to new heights and it's obviously put you in a big spotlight. But you guys still go to places I feel like beyond is a place that really helped make your name. How important you've been on uncharted territory Wednesday nights? You've been on that. I think you're still going to be on that, right? Coming up here soon. How important is it for you to still go back to a place like that so important at I working beyond wrestling, specifically made us attacking that we are today? We started getting our, our breaks really early on with beyond wrestling and getting in there with the right people. We wrestled the American wolves very early on and just wrestling dominance twenty minute match. We learned so much. I'm trying to think who else. I remember Dan, Dan berry and Bill car yet, relate. What was your guys wrestling name before you IFP? Oh, yeah. He textures a hey, you have any room for. E. Y. F B O. And I was like, what the hell? Did you say this wrongly like no? And but Yemen. You like we said you learn from you experiences. There was a lot of teams at helped you even like how Conan Conan is like a legit mentor to you guys. I present. And if you think about the road warriors, who they say, was their life manager, Paul L ring, kept them straight, kept them on, you know, help them with this help them that for me. I'm always in your guys year, like don't do this ever again because you're better than that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But that's wrestling, ladies and gentlemen. And if you are on the Indies, these are two guys who came up the right way from, you know, red school house of glory paid their dues. And now I mean, think about two kids from the Bronx, literally, flew to the UK to Mexico to the states or flying around everywhere, and soon, you'll be in first class because you're hopefully using all your frequent flyer? And you'll be sitting in first class and every. Fly just being like Helge and everyone will look at you and be like cool, those guys or they'll recognize you. I love that. I'm the biggest knob when I'm in first class on the that's right. I'm Tommy dreamer. You did it the right way. And that's how it should be. As you look at your careers and look back and I always like asking this question. We know we've seen the were watching snuff here from your documentary, the barbed wire match the against Lovie, e the obviously full metal mayhem and all that we've seen you guys work. A variety of different styles. Give me somebody who's influenced you who's not like you guys, whether it be in promos or someone man, I wanna wrestle like that guy or that girl is there. Somebody that's not like you guys, but you still take an influence from Bret. The hitman Hart to me he was. He's my, my number one is my icon. He's the guy who got me into wrestling, and it's crazy. 'cause like mice are style and what we do is totally up. That's you know what he does. But yeah that's, that's the. Ortiz. You've got a guy or, or people are tag team or something, you know, I'm trying to think that that's not like us. I mean, I would say characterize or one of my biggest influences Christopher Daniels falling. Wow. Okay. He's number one. I remember going to Indy shows very early on and going to like ring of honor's back in the day and just watching them live. And I just the biggest thing by Christopher Daniels is. He's very footwork. The footwork is phenomenon is always is been something that's attracted me to wrestling just you don't even have to be exactly the most athletic guy. But when you have the footwork in the timings there, it's amazing. I recently saw a match with Dennis stamping. Who was it? Rick martel. Wow. Yeah. And then stamp footwork is known to man. Just it in the ring, and his timing, and everything. And just little things like that is always made me fans of people. He's on the trampoline, guys. He's waiting for. Dennis stamp, a lot of people don't realize like he was like a top guy for a long, long time. But he made it for my generation, your generation of people where the guy who is once again, doesn't get booked, not how important do you feel? I mean, I know you're growth, tag team wrestling, obviously one day. Tag team. Wrestling doesn't mean that much in w if w gives you a call back. Eighty w tag team wrestling's prominent impact wrestling tag team wrestling's prominent. That means the world to me because I as a fan, but as two guys who you literally have to think, as one when it comes to bookings, all that stuff your decisions in your life. How much is that of importance to where you wanna go and what you wanna do in your life? Huge. It's, it's a huge importance. Yeah. I mean we, we wouldn't we're not putting all this work and to not be the best tactic in the world. I mean that's really our goal. We say it over and over again. And there's a lot of people in for that conversation. But as long as we're, we're in the conversation, even if people are crapping all over us. We're all about as long as we're in the conversation, and that, that's all we wanna be wanna be in the conversation. We want to be considered when, when it's all said and done. And, and we hang up our boots, even though we don't wear boots. But when when we say it's done, we want. People to, to have that argument. And that's what we've always said since the beginning since we started getting together and doing this whole tax thing was, you know, wasn't to become famous or make a ton of money or any of that we just wanted to become one of the best, and we've said it time and time again, we still continue to say it, like, that's our, our main objective, you know, like because becoming one of the best at what you do will last forever. You know, money, money, and everything you know that should you when you die. You don't take that with, you know what I mean. But when you're the best at something that after you're gone, that'll stay forever. Obviously, you said, you quit your job. And this is what you guys do is that now something where you do. Change your thought process. Art, I am making enough money to make this my career and make this, my life is that when the, the thought like that comes up is that when it really starts like all right now, making the money now, want to make my Mark is that is that kind of a turning point for you guys when it got to that one hundred percent like, when I when I quit my job. I. It was maybe three months before we actually gone signed in. I quit my job. And I was like this wrestling thing has to work. Now. I have a family. I have a young daughter have a wife that, you know, they all depend on me and you know there's bills and there's a bunch of things that needs to be taken care of. And I'm on big Papi at home. You know what I mean? I was like this wrestling thing has to work now. And thankfully, you know it it paid off. And we were those three months men when, when I quit my job, those three months were hell on the road. Because we were grinding it out. Like, I think those were the hardest three months we've, we've ever worked because we were grinding it out, and we were just trying to make a enough money so we could pay our bills. You know what I mean? And thankfully paid off for me. We wrestled defy in Seattle. I watched this match and I watched on the crowd. And what I saw this is the highest compliment I told you this. I saw to Eddie Guerrero. With your charisma with the way you worked, and it was just like myself, but I can't do what you guys do you guys still go all out? Even. That's why you got a shiner, and you were just on a, a house show here in, in Mexico. You guys go all out because it's the fans social, your hunger and your passion. That's why I do feel you will go down. And the as one of the greatest tag teams because everybody talks about it. It's an you think about like spots impact wrestling, you've done everything and impact wrestling, and you're still on top longest reigning, then it's like, okay, where do we go from here? What happens you can the doors wide open for you. Whether when you couple years ago when you quit eventually when you're contracts, come up, it's like, hey, let's renegotiate do. I wanna stay here. Do want to move somewhere else. Do you wanna take another risk? Let's see where we're at because that's the business, you know. And I love it. I love the future is so bright for two guys who have paved paid their dues and pave the way for others. And like they. There. If you're a wrestling fan, cool, but if you arrests or think about that work, your ass off. Don't do super-duper stupid stuff 'cause I tell you all the time and, oh, you're a little banged up here now you gotta worry about you guys are your own brand yet. And it's got to keep that body working because it's, it's, it's even a longer haul from now and it's so humbling, too, because when you know, well, we sat down and signed our first contract with impact wrestling. We're sitting in one of the trailers down at Universal Studios, and right before we put the pen to paper we looked at each other, and we were like at the end of this contract. We want every company knocking on our door, and we said that to each other. And we were like we, if that doesn't happen by the end of these two years. We didn't do our job. And the fact that we're sitting here two and a half years later, and having every company knocking on our doors truly something like humbling to us when that's gonna cry you cry all the time. You like I do. I asked him Eddie Kingston? They cried a Yonkers Tommy, dreamer. They always always crying crying. The New York thing. And it's also it's also a concussion sweet. It is you talk about that because there's a front of your head is where emotions. I'm serious in your front of your head is where motions are in and like, I'll just start crying for things. I was like, oh, stupid gushes. I hate you. But what you talk about goes against passion man is nothing. You were talking about your daughter documentary. That's I love seeing you on Twitter. Those guys that are like that. Karl Anderson does it all the time when it's like and what my kids today and like, that's you go home to, and that's your motivation. They're the biggest motivation. And that's not like I don't want to say this as a wrestling thing, but that does get people behind you when they see those kind of stories, and I know that's not why you're putting out there. But it's a lot easier to go. Oh, what he's going. That's why he's doing what he's going home to. And that's what you talk about after that re tweeting five thousand compliments no. You're talking about your kids on Twitter. I think that does make guys like you a lot more likable because of stuff like that, because it gives people like, oh, there's a person behind you're in too. Me. I we always say, like us being, you know, the people that you see on TV or you know, on Twitter, whatever, we're, we're Osman, like Santana's me like that's who I am. That's you know, every day of my life if you don't know series XM than listen, up commercial free music, plus sports, comedy, talk, and news. They had it all a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius XM. But you don't you can listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three months of Sirius XM outside the car for just one dollar. Just go to Sirius XM dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe, you can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius XM dot com slash busted. Offer available to new series exempt streaming subscribers siriusxm no car required match on a boat a cruise ship against the young bucks. And I, I guess people haven't seen this, if you were there you saw it. I. That you'll never see the light of that match wars ever see the light of day that one won't. But maybe in the future. Here's what I wanna ask you about. I heard through the grapevine. They requested that match specifically for against you. Guys when you heard that what did it mean to you? What are your thoughts on those guys because along with you guys, they're considered one of the best teams in the business? What was that match like because people didn't get unless you were on the boat. It was awesome. When we heard it was, I was on my way to the gym, and I got a call from Conan. And this was maybe like two months before the crews, and yeah, he was like a there's this crew's coming up. Chris Jericho's putting this thing together and the young bucks wanna wrestle you guys. And I was I was like what, you know, I you know, we're, we're just doing our thing you know what I mean. Like we don't ever think like all these guys know who we are. They, you know, we were just like oh, yeah. You know that's, that's all. Awesome. And. Yeah. The actual rustle us, which was awesome. We definitely it was huge compliments on us because the fact that they chose anyone and they had the power to be like, no, we want to work these guys with these guys. And when we actually worked on just instinct chemistry off the back. I mean they're they're they're really really, really good at what they do. And just putting together the match and everything just we clicked. Everything clicked. And it was awesome match. I the fans enjoyed it. I never seen it. So I can't tell you exactly how it came out. But I mean feeling it in the ring that day in the reaction that we got from everybody, especially afterwards, it was awesome. It was amazing. I just I'm sad. I wanna see the match, but I don't know if the footage even exists. Well, we will we all want to see it again. I think it's down the road. I'm I'm and I think I know you guys elect to do it again with them. Those guys. I, I mean, the vibe instantly like as soon as we offer of us were around each other the vibe was just awesome. And those guys are super cool in humble. Yes. Super home born we just sat there and just like, I think, for the first, you know, five ten minutes, we weren't even talking about wrestling. You know what I mean? Just a cool experience. Do you are you following tactic wrestling elsewhere? I mean, Tommy said, unfortunately, though, to be it's not build us as a top thing, but you have guys like use, and revival and a new day. And there's so many great are you are you guys still following? That is their attack guys like to watch hundred percent. I. We like to, to stay up today with everything and try to, you know peep game on everything and the guys over right now. WWE who sows and new day and, and revival. Of course, you know, these dudes are, are shaping tag team wrestling in a whole different light man. Like those have been doing awesome stuff when, when they do get the spotlight. They do get the opportunity, they kill it. Do you do? You guys take that as attacking that does get featured main eventing impact shows you almost take that as a responsibility of. Well, it doesn't get featured on Ron Smith and every week. So it's our jobs to make tag team wrestling deal in general, I guess you'd say hundred percent and also also showing that. That could be so many different styles of tax wrestling. You know what I mean? Like you said going back to what you said before you've seen us in so many different types of matches and we feel like that's always been a big thing for us coming up. Like you wanna be able to wrestle any style anywhere in the world. Like that's what makes you a true great worker. You know what I mean? Do you guys have a dream match? It was rock and roll express. But we did that. You guys did that in wrestlemainia weekend. Yeah, we did it for spin for spring break three part two, and we'll open the show. What was that? What we didn't open. We won't what, what was that? Like like working those guys amazing. The best. This is story. I've told before, but so we, we were going over the match with dumb just talking to them. And the major thing we wanted to do Janetta was, like, yo I talked to Ricky to Superstock day, they wanna go in, they really want to do some work. So we were a little nervous to meet them. We've never met them before we go upstairs. We say Hello to them. You know there was a little bit of a testing process on their part they never met as before. But as soon as they seem we were cool dudes and you know what I mean. Well, we hit it off instantly. And then we talked about, I don't know if you've seen the Canadian destroyer spot. Yeah. So we go. And we talk to Ricky about it, and he was just, like what's that? And then we show it to him because we did something similar with deluce boroughs. And I showed them the clip and he goes. All right. Let's do it. And I was like, yeah. We look at each other. And we're like all this is going to be awesome. So then that's all we talk about. And then at the we were like, oh, what do you want to do in the beginning and Rickie just goes lockup? Me boom, he locks up women. Boom. He goes all all night. Just listen in now is. And that was in, and it was awesome. And that's exactly what we did Ricky called the whole entire matching the ring to us the. I love how stuff goes full circle from that actual clip. And then how you said somebody who looked up to I had the rock and roll express, versus Daniels Gazarian at my show this s that match happened because they saw the Canadian destroy Daniels, and kazarian hit me up in the like, hey, man. You have the rock and roll express. That's our dream match-up. Can you make that happen? And I was like absolutely. And the best thing, and I told Rick and Robert, like, hey guys, you June other hell of a house because we, we packed it. The national fairgrounds was past weekend. But when you say, like the ultimate compliment another wrestler, watched your stuff from social media. Ben was I, I wanna work those guys. So it's like and when I tell you, they followed me and Bram, and we fought all over the building. I took stupid bombs Rosen thumb, tacks all this crap, but it was a straight up old school. Southern tag team main. Event and the people were so into. And when I tell you Ricky was Ricky selling being Ricky, and then at the end he blew to come back to rob, and they won with a sunset flip Elia and the place exploded like it was the Canadian destroyer, and it was, but a testament to how you guys are other teams saw that and was like we wanna wrestle those guys. So that's amazing. Great stuff. I do love the fact we can put this wrestling, twenty nineteen rock and roll express had a match booked off on skating destroyers just just just to get that. That's awesome in tremendous. There's a great story. You guys tell on I don't wanna totally spoil it, but you guys got something from the rock and roll express after the match you how. I want people to watch the doctor check that out because it shows the respect level that they gave you an obviously vice versa. You had for them that's got to be just that feeling. That's another milestone, I'd have to think in your career. Right. Russell the piece of wrestling history, like the they're living walking breathing history, and they're the EPA Thome they're, they're attacking wrestling, and they're still going in their sixties in. That's amazing. Yeah. And if you watch a documentary, you'll see what they gave us at the end of the match and, and we hold it dear to us, like it really. And truly, like we told them and we've put it on social media, and we told each other that we're not we're not rushing a match with without what they gave us that day it was awesome. When you talk about passion, and Ricky and Robert came back and I was like guys, thank you. Because I lost John Morris entire and Willie. They were they were in Mexico. Couldn't get on. They were stuck in Dallas due to weather. I went out there told the fans that offered refund. One person took a refund everybody else stayed, and they had one hell of a main event, and Ricky came back when you talk about passion. He the I hear him saying goes, brother, I'm sorry. I gave you the worst Frankenstein her 'cause I slipped. And when he that just shows passionate a sixty two year old Nancy man. I'm sorry. I messed up the Frank San but you took care of me. And I was just like God. I love that, because that's Ricky and he was just, like, thank you so much for having me, man. It was awesome. Likely you're hearing God's busted open, live, weekdays from nine AM to twelve PM eastern on Sirius XM fight nation channel one fifty six or on demand with the theories XM app. Wanna ask you this last year? I had the privilege to call your first match at the twenty three hundred Rita the CW arena, and I said this to my commentary partner Danny Doering, while the matches going on live contracts that I don't know if I've ever heard a crowd react to a first time appearance. Like I heard that crowd in that arena. I've been to shows there for my entire life. I have called many shows there. What did you feel like when you were in that ring when you step in the building? What was key exp? Explain everything about stepping at their billings. I'm sure it meant something to both. You a hundred percent. I mean it's a historic arena, and we never wrestled there. And we we've been you know, a grind in and out and weave rustled, almost everywhere. And for some reason, the arena, always scape does. And it just never happened for us. Even when we working Ceesay, w we've done a few stints, which Akhara, we've done to companies that have worked out of just it just never happened. And then finally that day when Tommy, brought us for our core that day we were a static, we were, like, finally, we're gonna work the arena. We, we were fan boy, and a little bit like, you know, we took a picture in front of the wall in the bathroom and, and stuff like that. Everybody does that. So. Shoot hundred adult mural. If you don't if you don't do it, you slacking you're saying, but if you only knew went on in those bathrooms, I, I could only imagine as all over. Now, no one's going to go in there and say that people who are in that if you're going to go into that being. That's what I'm about. It's mixed in the pink that's on the meal. My favorite part about the, the do c w arena, twenty three hundred arena back in the day. Seriously? We used to especially my mom used to always go in and have our matches in the restroom. I would always take my matches in the first time we did. It went to the men's room and then I was like, you know what? Let's try to the women's river. What the job at people be screaming at that. All these guys bum rush the women's bathroom today. This stuff could never go down. And I remember I whipped Briley into a stall. He hit the stall door open, and there was a lady literally gig. They're going to the bathroom. Now, think of that experience of Europe. Ed, we see cheated, even like scream. She just sat there like, and I was like a closed at for you. How's a hardcore at the arena this, this week? And by the way. Alone happen this because it's a different time. Okay. You guys worked the spirit squad that night did you feel it? Did you say like oh well, we have something here. We were we were nervous as hell because you always hear the horror stories of the, the Philly fans or some of the most brutally honest, you know, fans in pro wrestler, Orrick and, you know, so we were like yo we're gonna come out to creek either crickets, or they're just going to give us hell, you know. And so that's what we were expecting. I mean, I would rather get booed and get crickets. That's, that's the worst some reactionary. Yeah. Exactly. What but yeah. When we got the reaction, we did it was. It was off. Yeah. We weren't expected it to be honest, like, we had a really good reaction in the they were excited to see us there. And it kind of it added to the match and spare squad. They're great man. They're also worked on before and we did a tour also in Germany and digits, cool dues MandA. Great dudes and they're fun to work with and they know what they're doing. Man. They absolutely. Yeah. They just listening to them, like every time we've done a match with them. We just listened to them, and we're just like, yeah, let's do it, Liz. Liz rock and roll wit question. Every tag team has had this happened. Have you ever guys gotten to fistfight? Close, but no. Okay. Mary, close in New Orleans. There was a lot of alcohol involved. But we didn't. That's why liens is the devil. Never pitcher you to going at it very, very close to the point where we're airport. Cops so whatever came and like, we're, we're going at it. We're like yelling at each other at the top of our lungs and we're going at it cops come. Now there's nothing to see here he walks away at we. What happened in the airport? Airport. We, we were just nothing about was it wrestling. It wasn't about restaurant. No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't even about. We just missed our flight. We really drunk. Really read it home. Yeah. It was totally down his fault, by the way. I just know it. Try to stir problems, the gate see that it was my fault. I'll take that one for that one. Yeah. For that one. I'll take it. That's number one. Number two, there is Bubba of the team. There was Booker t of the team, they're kind of team leaders, do you have a team leader in what sense we, we this. This could be the next fight here. No business wise businesses all Santana Santana. No. He's good at getting our point across he's not afraid to be stiff, or lack of a better term when he needs to be and be blunt. In the ring. I take a lot of the Bronx responsibility. He he does a lot too. But I, I like to, to put together matches and stuff like that. Yeah. Like the in ring stuff. It's both of us. But I will take charge and try to put together the mattress and structure to matches but as far as business and everything else outside of the ring, that would be all him dude. It's ideal with rock and roll express, great friends. Both Robert is the business Ricky's the laid back guy beloved than if you think of the, the match like it's the heat on Ricky hot tag to Robert, it was always heat on diva. You know, should say, whoever's losing it will be Yvonne and. So I think you come back. I can't also wait for everyone to watch your, your movie here on the fight network. It is phenomenal, great documentary, you could also see the worst hair choice by you ever or she like it. Even like it like, like Ethan page said the Puerto Rican macho man holy. We just tweeted out the Lincoln and it's up there at fight net and tweeted it there while he was getting his hair. Don't I was like, he looks like every girl went to school with her Harlem the had talking to his folically impaired myself, but I was I don't know if I'd wear that hairstyle I'd like just a little jealous of that here. I would pay big money for when sometimes when you brush, his hair, I go to pick the, the out of his coma, and I put it on the cover. My bolt says that's the second air conversation. We've had in the studio today. That's all I can say about that. We haven't talked about Luce Bros. Fourteen tag team match against those guys fourteen man, give or take for and what your record against them. It's been pretty back and forth. It's been it's been everywhere it's been impacted it's been beyond. It's been bar wrestling. It's been PWG. W glory. Are you wrestling them this Saturday at how's it gorry we wrestled them in England? That's for fight club in England yet a really really, really good one. We'll dumb in England. Just that, that Manchester crowd man English fans. The they're, they're very much like a football or soccer. Yeah. Really, really into it. It's a it's a different atmosphere to Russell. It almost feels like I, I know punk Cabana used to kind of take that match around. I feel like that's kind of what we took it to, to every major independent company. Is it most parts this weekend? Do you think this is it for a while? Honestly, it's just we have really good chemistry. We have really good matches with them. We can go. We definitely real complement each other in every in every way possible. What is changed from the first time you weren't wrestled those guys to, you know, full metal mayhem till, you know, now there's more trust? Of course. But the chemistry is always existed the first time we ever us them was for beyond wrestling at America Rana seventeen. I think it was, I may be wrong with the year, but we had insecure mercy with them, definitely, it was the first time the Russell them. So the hits were a little harder and more snug, but we'll even bring it now. And there's no you know love loss. We, we just go add at each other. And we leave it out there in the ring because we're all kind of onto that we like to say that Lucia family, like Conan has a very like extensive Lucia family. And we just fall in with them. And then ever since they. You know, they realized we were down with Conan, we he gave us the stamp of approval. They're, they're, you know, Conan's boys too. And we got together. We had that chemistry. And now we're just we're boys, man. We, we trust them live our lives. And we can't get any better with them out. And what's awesome? Is that we're, we're always constantly trying to up the last man? Yeah. Not easy. You got a lot of them, you guys change up all your stuff and try. That's what you're supposed. Yeah. Exactly know what works. But that's also again, like I said Christian I used to Russell each other all the time, we would change it every single. And that was you it works to when you're going to do it on a bigger skin one hundred percent. And that was like the main thing, especially watch him back in a day in watching, you know, the Dudley's Hardee's and edge and Christian and all these guys like they did. Something different every match like not any other matches were the same even TLC matches like how crazy can you get with these matches? And they, they, they raise the bar, every single time, it's not easy as you know, once you once you have that great mattress somebody, it's really hard to, to try to. Up that you know what I mean? Sure. Yeah. And maybe the chapters closed at them in impact. Now, I mean, maybe that's fair to say. I don't think he'll ever the book, maybe not be closed ever with those guys, which is a good thing who's next to who do you want the north is come in. We know about them. But who do you wanna face? Let's say an impact or maybe elsewhere, right now, the Briscoe brothers, definitely want to Russell, the Briscoe brothers again. We Russell them once in Germany, for w w we did tactique tournament over there. And we had the opportunity to Russell them and really good chemistry there. Honestly. They're the number one him in my everyone says the best team in the world, I think the Broncos are the best acting in the world. Honestly currently 'cause as long as they've been doing it as good as they can still go and decrees e stuff that they, they've done in their still moving so rocket in Brazil, there mania. I don't think there's a tag team around today from their era that still like banging heart done with your. Wrestled both in their great. I think they don't get brought up in that conversation. It's because they've been in the same place for the same time and, you know, I don't want to say, people would say there, but you take for granted them so long and bear by I loved working with them Bubba stuff we I now. That was even the stuff that brought them in house, a hardcore I was just like I love these guys, and I've seen them before you guys around there saw them, you know, from debuts in great guys, you did loosen them in Germany. I have to double check that. So you wrestled the bucks, only once and the Briscoes only which is so great that you guys have so much more to go with. They're just scratching the surface with of the best teams ever. If you don't know series XM than listen, up commercial free music, plus sports comedy, talk, 'n news. They had it on. And right now, you can get your first three months of serious accent outside the car for just one dollar. Go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to see opportunity tails, and to subscribe offer available to new series XM streaming subscribers Sirius XM. No car required. Did I see I forgot where it was like it was you guys wrestling Phoenix mass ripped off, and then someone from the crowd through a mask to cover it up, which was awesome. That's amazing. I think my favorite part about Lucia Brose is how sometimes they communicate. And they are whistle rather than I can't do that. We were actually talking about that the other day. They have a thing where they know where if they don't see each other. They do the whistle when they whistle. Soul out and so good. And they do the same Willis all the time. And I can't do that brother gets right. And say it's like. And he's right there. It's awesome us. We just have a code word. I don't think we can say it on the. In f-bomb today, which about. If we can't see each other one of us yells Wailer Wheeler. And then the other word. Word for penis up today go, so you said anyway. Sweet around should we go speed round? Where are you what the I, I have? I like asking this question. No street round speak a kind of speed rail. Alex said no slow speed round. No. Listen. My producer. Sometimes. Tommy listening to somebody once in a while. He's eating just pretzel rods. By the way, if you haven't heard them on air. He is eating any did offer them to you guys, not me but guys drink and pond water over there. Yeah. I wasn't going full Cup asked you stupid. Okay. Thank you pick an era that you guys could drop yourself into and Russell today any era anytime whether it's because there's a bunch of tag teams there because it's a certain territory because it's a fan base. Give me a place. You want to drop yourself into, I say kings rolled all Japan. Wow. Kings road error. I mean, I would probably die because of my size compared to everyone else there. And I'd probably be a jobber, but it would be amazing. It's one of my favorite Ariza wrestling the watch you'd be under mask. It'll be okay. Yeah. One hundred percent or I would say early nineties mentioned Oku pro. Wow. I love to go watch now and that's where I get a lot of minds Persian ideas for our matches Santana got some that say early nineties, all Japan like the tag team scene. In August pan during that time insane. Even not as much today. But back then it was almost presented a different way where the it was singles guys that would come together with the difference. They weren't necessarily working the hot tag or anything like that. It was it was single stars put together. It was awesome. Because all Japan back in that day that was the only place you were able to see like guys team up that you would never in a million years, think like you would see STAN Hansen and bam. Bam. Bigelow like that was awesome. Stan Hansen and Tommy, dreamer tag up and they'll Japan tournament. Really? I did never seen it. That's wasn't that. Nice to me. We didn't go that far. He wasn't nice to you. I'll tell that story. I was in that tournament marking out huge for that. Well, I'll ask you that question. You're here, give me an error. You'd wanna be dropped into. People ask me like dream matches. I would say NWEA eighties era, dusty always told me that I was put in this business in the raw wrong era. I don't know if I agree with that. But I, I would love to have like seen Tommy dreamer versus RIC flair like baby face Tommy, dreamer versus baby fae. He'll RIC flair tagging along the American dream. I would have been like the new. Magnum TA. Pat really good body. I don't know why I would've loved to see you his curt Hennig, now, I them try side his last match ever was that on. He had big boss man's last match after you wrestle me. You wanna make sure you have another match. Right. After that. Here. Ladies that lightning round, we would never have. I love the guys and say the attitude I feel like someone like I love to be in the attitude, which is quantum. No, you'd rather, you know, and you've wrestled the Hardy's in the double before. Yeah. What was that, like awesome? We realized that we were in shit when. Where was that in your career? It was right. Before we goes on impact. Okay. On the essential on the ascension. Shut onto Brian excel he made the match happen for us. And yeah. So we came out and that was our home. Also go, you know what I mean? There's one of the places will along with beyond that we really became their craft, and when we came out that day, and they obviously, they drew, one of the biggest houses ever, Gerald, there was definitely over a thousand people there that day, and we came out to almost crickets, and we were like, oh, man, people are not here to see us. And usually when we come out we get a huge ovation and the crowd is going crazy for us. And then when the delis came out, we couldn't even hear ourselves stink. We got out the ring and the artisan Billy's came out and both those interests back to back. We, we were just like the floor was wrong. And we just like Man Singh. I we would just like we ain't shit. And we, we were like we want to get there like that made us even more. That's a motivational match probably walked out, like all right. We gotta get hundred percent Bubba. Bell gave him a back elbow. And got the biggest reaction ever from a back elbow. We were just like man. We do Canadian destroyers for fifties and we don't get even the near that pop. And it was insane. It was giving me the dusty and I was marking out guys. When I tell you how much I love you. I love you. But when I tell you from experience, I was in the ring and the alliance and were beating up Cain. When Steve Austin's music hit I was like, oh my God. And I thought I was an over piece of talent. And I was like whoa, so it happened to me. It'll happen for you, too, because I'm way over the new guys. But it's good to have that experience. Right. Like you'd say, like everybody should try to have that. It's maybe where you think you're there, then you get in the ring with somebody else, and go, oh, no. We're not there, you know. Yeah, we're not. Yeah. It's a it's a great learning experience. While makes these guys out I once again, impact TV tapings Thursday and Friday this week. 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You Wish - The Spanish Announce Table - Episode 240

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You Wish - The Spanish Announce Table - Episode 240

"Here comes again. Lunch will be the same old same old or you ready to take a vacation from the ordinary with the new Jamaican Jerk Turkey sub at firehouse subs freshly sliced smoked Turkey breast crave ably sweet mustard sauce and a hint of Caribbean seasoning just five fifty five remedium save time order the new Jamaican Jerk Turkey sub on the firehouse subs APP firehouse subs enjoy more subs save more lives participating locations limited time only plus tax prices may vary delivery Spanish announce table Tom Yeah what's up man. Do the holidays are what's up. How's how's that before? We get into everything for the week. This is a professional wrestling podcast where the Spanish announce table but we are the stars of that show people want to know what's up with that so I'm good holiday depression settling in or anything. No actually you know what this year more so than any other year I planned out my P._T._o.. Accordingly so <hes> we are recording on a Wednesday night December nineteenth two thousand eighteen year of the new idea and I actually they have Thursday and Friday off and then Monday and Tuesday is Christmas Eve and Christmas so I have Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday Tuesday off so plant and then the rest of the company because we're a small startup startup they have the rest of the Christmas week off so I'm working <hes> Wednesday through Friday which is fine but typically our clients also take that time off so essentially I'm saving P._T._o.. And Not really doing anything and so that except whatever the company needs will yeah well. There's some fires that need to be put out this week but guess what I'm off the clock not my problem another firemen on duty so vodka off so I have a similar situation with the holidays off well so I started a new job my second week of that <hes> so I don't have any like P._T._o.. Yeah because it gets dumped in on the first year well <hes> just happens happens. They're like hey by the way you know like Monday's Christmas Eve Tuesday's Christmas <hes> Monday New Year's Eve Tuesday's New Year's <hes> you get all of those off paid so I get a four day weekend than I worked three days so then I get a four day week in the four day week. This is the best job ever yeah that is and what works for my P._T._o.. Going back to how I planned it out is last week. I had two days off so I wouldn't work three days so I've only been working three days a week last three weeks about that and that's all you normally work anyway if you add it up you know what I mean you real actual work way less than that adding yeah time. I probably in a year in the fifty. Two weeks probably worked a solid twelve weeks yeah. I'm glad I don't like employees. You know for the thing though I do my work efficiently so they don't take a lot of time to get my work done so where they're not to brag but where someone would take. Let's say three hours to finish the task. It takes me about thirty to forty five minutes so the rest of that time in I know this the only reward for getting your work done is more work so I don't tell people when I get my work done so then I spend the rest of that time where I should be working listening to podcasts. <hes> you know having uh-huh. You've been reading my diary Tom. Why is that because it sounds like everything? This is how I get by. This is why secret I thought now you're you're K.. Fe Tom like you're letting everybody know Tom. That's that's the thing things that is the thing just remember well. We're GONNA have to make this up paid episode. The only reward for getting your done is more work so don't get your work done unless they say you need to get your work done unless it's guaranteed that you're more work comes with more money than there's a decision you can make their right then you can on the more work but typically seen enough yeah typically. It seems to not everywhere that I've been employed so also back to the holidays though got everything planned out I think is you know everything's everything's bought and good the one gift that I have for. Emily is something that she needs to pick the day in time for four so it is but but it is not been executed in the sense that I got her some gag gifts for her to like what and then I'll tell her you know this is what the real gift is and then she has to pick the day in time for when that happens <hes> <hes> but that is paid for so as far as gifts all done all done. My wife was all done <hes> I finished <hes> over this weekend. She was gone on a Herbert. There was a few weeks ago and her friends were. We're busy then her. You Know Circle of lifelong sister friends and then they went away and did like girls weekend <hes> out and about and had fun and so I took that time to go finish my Christmas shopping obviously right well. <hes> my wife had been done right. Everything was wrapped and then one day we were arguing about something and I forget kind of what we are you in about at the moment <hes> but it was getting a little elevated right. We are going to end something and she goes over and she starts unwrapping these Christmas presents and and I was like what are you doing and she was like I've taken these back and I was like really I was like. Are you really like getting like really know what they are as they were like slacks and button up dress shirts that I no longer need like I need those for my previous job and I was just saying like I need a whole bunch more <hes> because I'd lost weight and so and so she had bought a bunch for Christmas and <hes> and I don't need those anymore because I wear jeans and like Polos now so she had meant to do that anyway right. She was just kind of like on autopilot ignoring ignoring me when we argue with you know what I probably does and so go figure. It sounds like somebody speaking from experience well so so yeah I was dealing with that and then I was so I'm sitting there going like really we're having avenue. Remember this year like take Christmas breath. Are you really being opinion. She was like no dumb ass. This isn't like really about you like this is so yeah so she's got to go okay. <hes> I went out and did it while she was gone. I took that Opportunity Ginny right while she was out on her on thing to go pick up her thing and to allow the kids to pick up Christmas presents right they. There's still they would rather. I just picked him up some and be like yeah. This is from you yep signing on four nine so did all that I got a couple of things I'd like to pick up because you know what I mean like you always think something like Oh. I should <hes> you know what I also while she was gone on took the opportunity eighty two completely clean organize our basement down here and it was an walkable that it was like become the the storage place where you just start throwing every box and everything that you have unfinished basement and that taught me a good. I'd say he's solid five hours like you know packing whatever needed to go in a box like breaking down boxes taken to the curb right while the curbs of course you know it's a it's a car drive away so it's not so yeah I mean that's the whole weekend down there like because I we have an exterior. Oh you're part of the garage where some of the stuff should have been stored. You know what I mean. Tell we are ready to go through and determine what to do with it and that kind of stuff and and and then everything we'd bought for Christmas in the House here and since then and every like flooring box was down there just kinda thrown down there you know <hes> Tom you know that middle aged male life there tom anything of that. That sucks sucks so what else that's working. I just workman wife was GONNA we can clean in the basement a Christmas shopping second second week on the job. We're still enthusiastic. Yes okay hundred percent yeah like tally. We should see when the when the other shoe DROPS LENOVO FLASH FORWARD TO MARCH. He's like you know yeah right right yeah yeah so that's it man and then you live a boring life so right so so there's no training pretty good then has been good. I I haven't Rodeo clowns college but that for Rodeo clowns college your training cousin that got a full scholarship to Texas A._M.. For Bull riding the ice it's an intense thing to do that is a really intensive. It might be die from it. It might be up there with like one of those like yeah as as like a dangerous thing that you could knowingly willingly do as pro wrestling like you're going to get hurt doing this like it's not a you might you're GonNa get hurt at some point doing this. I had a friend his name was Daniel and he came down to Orangeburg. When I was in college we had drinks and it was a group of us? It was just me and him I and I wasn't necessarily that close with his new and things like that but next day had a little. I don't know what they call them competition or exhibition. Whatever a Rodeo that's what it is yeah I don't know and the ball fucking kicked him in the chest and killed him next day? Yeah it's real I mean I I like the <hes>. What was the <hes> what was what they call? The sex move with it was the Rodeo is like <hes> when you're in doggystyle in you and you group with your arm and you tell her sister was tighter right and try to stay off for eight seconds the Rodeo now the old hat. That's the Rodeo. That's right tonight tonight tonight. You know what I mean. Just whisper it softly in your ear and try to hang on the trick. Is Your Balance Yeah. I mean you've got to have the storm up for anybody watching on Youtube if we pose us when you'll see my arm ocean it's effective right now when I was training with the cross fit and they may been doing <hes> starting to gear up and get into like so the first you know get the rust off gets you know right Lotta rusts back <hes> but now I'm getting into where it's like okay now. We're getting into the the meat and cheese of this training so kicking into high gear then today's Today's workout a hundred and fifty dumbbell all snatches so you just take the damn dumbbell and you throw it over your head and then you switch hands and you throw it over your head hundred and fifty as quick as you can way dumbbell thirty five pound weight and you do of it you you so you take it and like you almost do like a dead lift right from the ground you bring it to your hip and then you switch it a dumbbell right so one right you're thinking of a bar but right now right yeah and then you bring your I was thinking of hold two of them but you're holding one right just one and bring it to your hip and then you switch over your wrist punch through yeah and then you come back down right and then you switch hundred and fifty so you're so you're not the terms snatch implies that it's in the air and you're grabbing it but that's not what you're affecting these. Here's the thing I like cross fit of been doing it for a couple of years. The first time around I lost a ton of weight and I still feel great doing it. This time. I will tell you this full disclosure. I don't know what any of the fucking names mean. I don't know any of chipper and yeah Murph all that Shit. I just just tell me what I'm doing. That's something that turns me off from that whole genre of stuff because because of that I call that the like <hes> it's a it's a the smell in their own farts too much over there right like get over it and it's called whatever it's fucking clinical term is much. I take it a lot more seriously if you tell me it's a buck and jumping jack. WHOA even that sounds kind of fun? You know what I mean. You told me this guy the crunch right like I get that right. You told me it's a sit up. I get that you don't have to push up. I get that right an arm curl a leg ben like these things make sense to me right now. If you tell me yeah when they're when they've got their you know routines get some of that. I guess right you have a name for whoever designed the routine. I don't invest in it so when people are like Oh have you ever doing you know Jackie's workout. I'm like no oh maybe I have but I don't know what fuck you talking about well. That's right so okay so I get it right like even if I'm in cross fit right. Let's say I'm doing that. I don't ever envisioned myself being that person right because when they're gonNA come Joe. Did you do the the Diane Johnson Right. That's where you do and 'cause they always have to tell you right like okay so just start telling me what you had to do for your workout because that's where this is going anyway right and it's always something intense right. I'm never going to be like Oh. That's you know what I mean. That's wildly different than the other fifty Burgis in the two hundred thousand squats. Whatever like it's all really intense shit? That hurts your body. I get it right like I it's. It's it's no different to me. What you did versus what Tom did? Versus with this guy did because it all sounds like it kicks the Shit Attia and you get in shape right right like great great story okay. Let's doing yeah all right so yes train the ranting on Crossville. Let's get into some news. Talk Talk a little W._W._e.. Wrestling News that's an interesting topics lined up here. I like this well into the first one all right so for fans of outside of the www there is the rubber band club the bullet club delete whatever you're calling them now yeah and they have a youtube series called being the elite and the newest episode will be covering the farewell I guess tour or farewell event of cody the young bucks and hangman page leaving ring of honor the Swansong narratives so what do you think about that so hangman page cody and then the young bucks so yeah to two schools of thought one is well they're going to W._B.. To in the more interesting one and the one that I like to get a little jazzed about is this whole Jacksonville Jaguars owners going to start a pro wrestling promotion. Jim Ross's involved solved and these four gentlemen are involved grading. What's your gut say? What's your gut say? February one was just assumed that's the next time we see them. You know what I mean. What are they doing? I think both both options could be in would be amazing and I'm GonNa say gotTa Hope Jim Ross in involve. I just think he's going to be involved from like talent. Relations not like the play by play guy. Hey look what he did when he was a W._W._e.. Now that's you know <hes> more likely that this Jacksonville Jaguars things is a thing you know the owner of that starting. This new company with these guys is a thing right. That's what sounded the most plausible to me until right now as I sit here you're thinking about it wouldn't put it passed me for these guys to pull off what they consider. The ultimate troll and ultimate swerve right and to put all this out there so when they show up on W._W._e.. Holy Shit right like eras like Oh. Oh my God right. They make phone calls. They get some people to go. Yeah leaks shit to the news fairly easy to accomplish and W._W._e.. Right now is in a supposed- which will cover more later of hey. We're changing this new stuff. You're going to see new the stars. It's going to be surprised as we'll get into whether or not we think that's valid or not but who knows the more I sit here and thinking about that right now. Oh well shit man. I you know I mean I could legitimately see that also so I really kinda right now on the fence if you ask me this hour go and not kind of brought up even the thought of W._W._e.. I would've thought yeah this is. They're going to do this thing now. In here. We go and I kind of still hope that kind of happens to because you can always do the W._b.. Right like you can kind of you know what I mean the W._b.. Thing yeah I I think I think we'll we will see them doing something with either the Jacksonville Jaguars owner or someone like that but I don't think it's going to be the traditional hey impact wrestling is starting up or T._N._A.. As it was I think we're GonNa seems maybe something more along the lines of like how the N._W._f.. Title is shows up at these random events or global. What was what was jeers thing called Jif W we'll be forced wrestling global force wrestling right right so more like a bunch of all in events and then sprinkling around of the other high profile independence and China just kind of I'd like Kinda fluff this scene as it were exactly capitalize off of that? I think we're gonNA see something more along those long lines I my gut tells me even though I would not be shocked but my gut tells me in two thousand nineteen after the success in two thousand eighteen of all in and how much they wanted to pat themselves on the back and deservingly so I feel like they're not gonna go like well. Let's just lay it up and get go into W._B.. I think they have this ego this drive save this determination to say we can do all into now fast forward in if all in two cells one hundred tickets and four people watch whether let's go lay up and go back to W._B._Z.. Or you know in the case of cody but the others will go to W._b.. Abebe but I think I think how successful all in was I think their egos going to say we can actually do this week at work. What if W._W._e.'s pulling the strings the whole time behind here and they hey saws they saw the the you know what I mean the greatest maybe they helped fund some of it maybe now they're trying to enhance some of that also and the Jacksonville Jaguars helping them get <hes> you know helping them get trademarks without having to do it right under the nose of all the media? You know what I mean. You know there could be that too but that sounds like a lot of conspiracy theory Kinda Shit so I don't know yeah I think more of a special events for two thousand eighteen brought to you by all in which are these four guys. We'll see in two thousand nineteen. <hes> believe that one. I would believe that one in W._W.. Two to be honest with you yeah now. Here's the interesting part the second part of them. Leaving is you know but for lack of a better term ring of honor and new Japan pro wrestling <hes> also put a lot of eggs in the basket of Cody Young Bucks Hangman page now they still have a marty skirl. They're still Kenny Omega but let but that's who those guys were fighting right but those four leaving kind of feels like you have an opportunity for ring of honored to say like well. Here's some new talent. It's Jeff Cobb. It's this this is how lethal blah blah blah but I also feel like in two thousand nineteen at least for the first quarter to into second quarter. Hey Ring of honor. Hey New Japan you know with these guys leaving and potentially more if this is all in promotion comes about you. Guys have some work to do some work to do as well yeah. You got a lot too yeah I <hes> it will be interesting to see what comes of this but something is going to happen right like guess soon something command so what's next we shall see all right next door you got for you and this one caught my eye just because of the level of talent that is going outside of the umbrella and it is Johnny Gargano will face Austin Theory et evolve one twenty in woodside New York <hes> do you think about that. It's GONNA be Saturday. January nineteenth Johnny Gaga Gano now he'll Johnny Gargano and spoiler annex t see you might see something with him and to Moscow Champa involving ouster black but that's story and Gano a top guy five star match INEX- t you know as the bay face was the same any Zane face of the promotion going outside and working a match for another company evolve what thoughts I like it and I will cover more of this kind of concept in the next segment which by the way this is a special episode these these holiday episodes traditionally. If you've been a fan of the Spanish now table well no we do Christmas wish list <hes> and then <hes> next episode. We'll do kind of like a year and reviews recaps and awards. Maybe we'll do a new year's resolutions. NHS those kinds of things but here. We keep this one short because we've got stuff to do. It's a holidays as we mentioned so we'll make her but <HES> I I'm going to cover that in my wishlist so but this one in particular I like this I this Johnny Gargano fits that that coupling all right exactly where he was from evolve <hes> and the streep profits have been evolve it gives them credibility. It's really strong did something there to it makes sense for him to say you know I'm going back right. I was an evolved superstar now welcoming back home kind of thing that's cool. That's I just feel I feel like if it was a lesser-used talent on T.. For example that riddle a I agree with that the fat black guy what's his name Kevin Lee keithly chiefly key three if it was one of those guys doing a lot more right well cassius own alright well yeah because fucker really doing right now. Matt riddle might be getting pushed but you know what I'm saying Johnny Gargano when you say inex- T two thousand eighteen it's Johnny Gargano Tomasa trump as well but johnny elbow you know CIAMPA and Gargano Yeah. They both fed off of each other to make all that happen so yeah that a major amazing title matching gifts <hes> C._N._N.. Illness you know what I'm saying like really. You're GonNa let that one. He was the face. Of Inequities Ripston A._C._l.. Breaks a shoulder. I don't know like hopefully that doesn't happen and obviously he's done a million matches so it's not like he's necessarily injury. Practice posted a ball both of them. All that was not good. See for awhile yeah so yeah so it'll be interesting to see. I hope we see more of that and that's a little bit of a spoiler also for the next segment now if you don't like spoilers <hes> here's a sometimes life sucks right. Yeah talked over that sorry but right so then let me get into something that I wanNa talk about and this is big news because the Mcmahon family you know minus Linda because she's you know one of our cabinet members apparently so <hes> apparently she is yeah right yeah because you know they run that super small business there you know that that company pop shop that mom-and-pop shop that definitely didn't kill small businesses around the damn country slash world yeah okay all right so the McMahon's <hes> the onscreen ones show up to Monday night ron and they promise the hey we hear you. We realize this sucks. We've been phone of it in. We've been focused on other things right. I'm paraphrasing what they say right uh-huh and they go into the whole this things are going to be different now. Starting now we're in control and you know I mean and we're doing away with <hes> the him rematch clause they start throwing ordering all this shit in forgive me. This is not journalism here. I'm going to go off on opinions here. <hes> I'm not buying any of this. This sounds like ask talk to me right. These people are talking right out of their ass. This sounds like they are saying everything they think they are supposed to say right now right. They think they're like we're we're. We're fixing now. We're here. No no no no you you are the problem. Do we not do. We not have some self realization here. Sorry I didn't mean you're about to say no. I was GonNa say the speech they had kicked off. Raw felt a lot like I don't have kids that I know of <hes> but if a lot like you know when you catch a kid in a lie or you catch a kid doing something wrong and then apology where they're not. They're not apologizing to you because they're sorry they're just saying things that will hopefully make you as the parents story my life. Stop it yeah just like this every day every day. Oh I had to go don't so my intelligence. That's how that whole Promo felt was because like here <hes> so they bust into the whole rematch clause. That's gone like Oh excuse me. Oh okay. Am I to believe that your own made up. Obligation is why you guys keep having to write the same story line over and over and over again to death. That's why because of that damn rematch asks clause <hes>. That's why you keep writing the same shit over and over again and that's why you're suddenly GonNa stop now. I don't buy it. I don't believe a second of it well in to specifically call out that. I don't think that was the problem wrong but I never heard as criticism like you right. I don't watch Monday night role but you know what I don't watch pro wrestling because if they lose they just get an immediate rematch. I'm never really heard that criticism griped about it here. Go Yet specifically go to certain instances of course but generally speaking. We don't say like you instant rematches. No you know what I hate just because rematches and there's a difference I steve said on the show that I thought I was never like a this is stupid. They should no longer do it. I would just went of all the things that they pull the W._W._e.. Move on of pretend it never happened. They never did that with the rematch. Clause News like there was like a real rule for some reason that they had these stupid and I was like oh no it's because they don't have any ideas so they try to stretch these out for as long as they can. There are simpler ways to do this right like there's not an in the whole like well. We need new stars. It's not that we any new stars. What we've been complaining about is Ramos Stereo was fine? Randy Orton is fine but you have ray mysterio going against rainy Orton which we've seen forever. We don't want that we want new feuds new matches new storylines you can use the old people because because they are experienced and they're very valuable Cox and here's the thing nobody cares about six random people. You're bringing up from sixteen. It's like it's next season one again like dude. What is this in like? That's great okay so you want New People because we've got all these old people hanging around. You're not getting rid of the old people to like. You're bringing up and adding these other people on this. None of this makes sense. It sounds like you still don't get it so don't sit here and go like Oh. We finally get it. No you don't know this as a devil's advocate advocate. This is what I will say <hes> as a counterpoint to what happened on Monday and Tuesday it is Christmas right so let's also take for what what timing <hes> is happening announcement. You're not for example like I said <hes> next week Christmas. No one is going to be at work. It's going to be me and another person that I I rarely see right so so if I get it a brand new outfit for Christmas. I don't know Spanish announce table Hoodie that you can get cafe dot com or Spanish down sable dot net and I get that Hoodie. I'm not gonNA wear it Christmas week at work to show what off because no one's there and so I think a little bit of this announcement was kind of mistimed in the sense of hey we have something new really right now. We'll know because we know you guys are busy. It's it's GonNa be in January. I feel like they should have said that and I know that breaking K. because you always want people to to be watching each and every week but I feel like what we're going to see and I maybe hopeful here is going to happen the second week of January at the end of January going into February. I don't think because even if you watch Monday night raw you had them say we're getting new faces and new matchups and to to make this point to drive this point home. We're we'RE GONNA see Dove Ziglar versus. Here's Barron Corbin to get beat up by the same guys who beat him up less than twenty four hours ago. Like what are you talking about like. What are you talking talking about the none of different that was my problem like you guys well but to play devil's advocate I again? It's because hey next week we we already taped her shows. We take two shows in one night so we already got next week in the CAN. Let's let's get through the holidays because we know Tim is busy with you. Know Christmas Thomas out there drinking away just empty feelings that he has <hes> we'll get into this and January I get why can't say like well and I've got some advice and suggestions for them to think about while they were getting through the holidays right 'cause they don't take breaks but yeah they're gonNA use holidays so <hes> it yes new matchups in new faces are great but you could roll an endless circus of people. I've never heard of the door each and every week and you'll still see declining ratings. <hes> nobody cares if you don't give me a god Aw damn reason right like some of you out there. The reason is this guy has coo- flips and shit right but that is not the average television viewer especially here in the United States where the majority of your money's coming from is just not how it works you gotta come up with some storylines. If it takes you hiring better writers. We discussed this where you have to temper the writers a little bit because it's a different animal in the wrestling world right. You have a wholly dependent about this well. We talked about this <hes> through Texas at length right because pro wrestling is a different animal camel in this sense and I wholeheartedly believe this because there's proof to it but you can't necessarily higher the best soap opera writer from days of our lives to come over to wrestling and say like hey. Hey all that cool shit you did over there you here and on the other end of the spectrum. I don't think you can say hey thirty years pro wrestling fan right as the greatest pro wrestling because the best have a mixture of both and that's why guy trying Gertz or something that Levin who's who's the rocks guy is a girl with that's why he left you know why because he not not to say he mastered but he did awesome in in pro wrestling but pro wrestling wasn't his life blood so when rock left he goes way. There's some more money over there and he went there right. It's because you can't have outsiders who know nothing about this because we've seen locally if you don't know what wrestling is you will fail in wwl and if you don't know anything other than pro wrestling will you're just going to tell the same story because it's predictable. I've got suggestions for them. Then right so what you do is you don't hire those people to write your scripts and your full on details of your storyline right but there's no reason you can't have a pool of guys to sit there and kick out ideas all day long that you can fluff and taken us a manipulate. There's no reason you can't source out people to listen to every damn talk show and podcast they find here those little nuggets and go ooh. I heard random. Schmuck have a thing that maybe we can work with right like because you can't do it by yourself when you have to kick it out every damn A._M.. Week fifteen hours of programming every week like you're gonNA have to crowd source some of this right like start doing some of that pay some schmuck slightly above minimum wage to just come up with purports. Hey here's some random shit. I heard some people suggest it may suck it may be good and somebody's going no no okay. I'll let them read that one all atom think about that one and like you know maybe five percent ever reach even somebody's desk matters but there's some fresh ideas that person in think about in I mean like maybe they come up with something thing off of those right like how how many times have I give you a list of random things and a slight concept or our listeners having you came up with team act story time right. There's people can do that if we just give them some tools right so they can do some things like that. There's there's also how they're writing this right like you said there's three segments of Nyah Jacks guys you have way too. Many people. Keep these real quick and short I if I see bobby rude more than two minutes on my screen you've spent much time on on him because you have so much time to fill. Let me see the next part of the Bobby Rude chapter next week right like lead me a cliffhanger and you give me fourteen cliffhangers each week you would make ron one of the most exciting things all week because every story line you're only getting a little snippet hip it up but all of its enthralling right you have to spread this out over time but make it short and just make it so many that it's boom boom boom boom and you're like holy shit they've got so much going on. Is that makes sense to like yeah you stretch it out and then compact so much in there like I just right yeah you don't want to you. Don't want your segments to be droning to where you're like. Really we're still going with a ten minute segment and even to further the point not to pile on but in classic McMahon structuring is here is a brand new Monday night role and we're GONNA kick it off with a twenty minute Promo God damnit guys you've done this every time and I get because if you go back and one thing to really pay attention to is when McMahon did Vince McMahon did the stone cold Steve Austin podcast one of the things he said is you have to have a story at the start to make people care about the match later and that is true right. It's hard for a general viewer. You were to just say here's the bell and here's music here comes bobby rude and here's another guy well. Why are they fighting right and I understand that but the twenty minute promo that says here's what we're starting with and at the end the night this is going to have a bull at the end? That's where we have to stop it. Stop being so formulaic right. You can have the main story but the main story doesn't necessarily need to be the first segment doesn't need to be Seth rollins music hitting it can and be at eight fifteen and the first segment can just be announced going all around here but the first segment can be United States championship match for Shinsegei Nakimora else's Rousson. You have a dark match for live crowd for a reason your T._v.. Audience might need that. Also you know what I mean. We might need a teaser. Go Shit and then we go all right. Let's get into this right like that's how they do T._v.. Writing and here's another idea okay. It was very evident while we railed on the McMahon's for here. You guys go thinking that like Oh. We finally get it when you don't we've talked about how Vincent Man is just better at this then the other McMahon's and the other people who've trying to come after him so when he's having his segment with the MS on smackdown. It's just way better than any authority figure they've ever tried to plug in there. He just comes off way better. So what the you've got to go. Do is fine yourself if it's gotta be actors or a guy like Corey graves who you can no longer really using the ring or maybe just aren't GonNa like Leo rush like they're never really gonNA make him a huge thing but he's great on the Mike Start Moving those guys into those roles right who can play those better who are believable actors because like McMahon playing him off me like hey I shouldn't the door felt so damn real and we don't get that was some of these other garbage you keep throwing out here guys right. The acting game has to step it up. You've gotta get coaches in there. You've got to have acting courses to understand storytelling and structure and because the same the same what you're saying about like the television writers not working thing for like soap operas and stuff yes absolutely but story ARCS and how you structure a story and how you segmented out and your plot points all one hundred percent apply all of them one hundred percent apply all of your leg when you're twisted calm and your rising action Chicago and you're falling action and your resolution should come all of those plot points at one hundred percent apply to the storytelling aspect of pro wrestling so that's where some some outside help people who were just successful at that can help them miles like and they don't get that I agree but I also think a little bit is that I think where I totally one hundred percent agree with you. I also would counter with man. That's asking a lot because you're saying be a good actor and then also do this other thing that no one else does and understand how to read a crowd and then perform physical pro wrestling well so that's where so you do that more so in in your authority figures right like you guys are playing that McMahon role in that kind of stuff those were. I get irritated. Let's tell a different story. You know that to live. I watched a little bit of two zero. Five Live 'cause I was bored and open with an authority figure. All three damn shows yes. Authority figure tells talent what to do we can we told before Austin McMahon fun fact for the new pro wrestling fans we told stories different rent the four horsemen never had an authority figure the commissioner telling them what to do. Now there were board members and blob forced remember there was Jack Tony and stuff but it was never the focal point Yeah Jack Jack. Tony was never a twenty minute promo to start W._B._Z.. Superstar he was never lived protagonist. He was never an tagged right he was that he was the decision maker yeah he was just the he was the Supreme Court Right <music> what you can do for people internationally the Supreme Court is the last decision maker just how Vince did with with the with the MS right. He didn't like become the center of that storyline relying. He was just like Vince I want done. What do you want me to do about it? You suck you know what I mean like like. Go figured out some other way. That's great. That's great as believable with Vince believable with page. I'm sorry it isn't like she's just actually. I don't think she was great and I thought her role was perfect. Jeez better than what they've had out there but like it's definitely not there with Kurt Angle and it's definitely there with walk is is you know this whole revamp up to me and again trying to pay attention to the I._W._c. on twitter and things like that. I didn't necessarily here that smackdown was sucking that bad now definitely all matchup like you said the Randy Orton <hes> Ramos Stereo thing but I thought page was doing good like y'all was suffering what the authorities storyline. I thought page was being used great where it was like hey we need to contract exciting. We'll slowly and hey we need a match right now. I'll make it happen but we need to start telling stories going back to my original point. We need to start telling stories a wave not everyone has an authority figure that they want to hate eight or love right sometimes might be as just directly with you. Sometimes my competition is just for the title. It doesn't need to be this this authority figure burden all the time one hundred percent agree with that it does not need to be. I do however think they one hundred percent drop the ball with the barren corbin thing. Did you hear how much heat he was getting on raw when he came out and they were. I don't think that's the thing is done because that's like the deal is date dake because it was new and different that it was like an active guy who was still you could argue in his like he's probably not even in his prime yet right and so on and sending <hes> figure on the Rosser and he could have become drunk drunk with power which he started to do but then you just made it an easy joke if you made him believable and hard to beat and cunning and this is where the writers help right like how to make it like what the fuck can be really mean what you know what I mean. What's he really getting at like the hidden little like the there's no more of man what's really going on right like we don't have to think that anymore because just so blatantly obvious what's going on and it's pretty boring and simple like it's just too simple anymore like I don't? I don't know but it's hard though too because I want to be a little bit fair. Is You know for example. I think for for a new wrestling fan one of the stories that I thought was cool but I could see see from a mile away but that's because I watch wrestling for ten hours a week for last twenty years. Plus right was when Dean Ambrose came out with his fun little masked men called out seth rollins Seth rollins didn't come out so they did an open challenge and that was cool right. That's new match because going into Monday night raw. You did not think that there was going to be an intercontinental championship match between Tyler Breeze and drew and Dean Ambrose right cool and then Dean Ambrose wins because he's the better talented he'll but he's a better talented than tyler breeze and he wins but then he goes Seth Rollins you coward you whatever they're well. He was dressed up as one of the guys and he'd beat them up for me and you and most of the listeners here that I have watched pro wrestling. We've probably all saw that coming but for my girlfriend who I forced to watch this stuff. She was genuinely shocked because she hadn't seen that right sure one thing that is hard for the he pro. Wrestling writer is where that hits well with emily that does not hit well with me or you because we've seen this ties and it's hard because everything there's nothing new under the sun kind of thing a half so here I've got a suggestion also right and we're going to cover this more <hes> in the next segment as well but you have a ton of different brands right now under your umbrella and they shouldn't be that distinct different God damn brands that's right. We're sitting here arguing over some details about what we think. There's the direction should be. There's no reason they couldn't do. Both they have to main rosters. They have an INEX- teed evidenced U._K.. They have a tool five live. You could be doing five different kind of angles. Listen things for your different subsets of your fans right and then I won't be turned off by half the show and not WanNa watch it because I think half of it sucks right. I might just watch this brand and be more dedicated to that and and watch that more and buy more suffering advertised. I like the there's no reason you can't do that. Guys you could have you could have the thing I want the more plot twists in the in the shorter segments and the more nighttime drama esque kind of feel to it right. You could have an thing where that and you can cherry pick your specific talent that works best for that and then you can have a two zero five live. That's pretty much R._O._A.. To light right like we're just going to go out there and we're GonNa have these twenty minute matches. Everybody flips all over the place and you go. Oh my God wow all right you can have that but you could like you said have ray mysterio. Oh junior in that and you could have you like you could cherry pick the best talent frigging John Gato could be in that and shot like you could split this up guys like you don't have to fit everything into every show. The same way doesn't have to be everything for everybody and then outcome smackdown and it's everything for everybody and then an extreme. It's like almost everything for almost everybody and it's two five and it's like this thing for these couple guys like with the fucker you talking about guys like come on brand yourselves right here. This is weird if you had coke and then it was like kind of coq also and then like a coke but not as good yet and then like a small coke like in we're talking about the drink right like cocaine but like like let's say Coca Cola right like a Pepsi or whatever right right like if they had these different like they've got coke and sprite and whatever their oranges if it's fans or whatever there's DR pepper but if it was like coca-cola and then pretty much also Coca Cola and then here's Coca Cola but they're just need a little bit more or you know flavor yet and then here's the the the lightbody coca-cola like nobody would buy that Shit that doesn't make any sense so like you guys are doing that. I don't know what do I know. I don't get paid to do the that industry. The money if you go to table show gmail.com and donated dollars helped him with his rants because he's obviously distraught over this announcement that the man's are really going to change anything it's become clear that they just don't actually honestly get it and they clearly think they do and they just don't and now I'm hoping you brought up a thought. I didn't think of maybe it just isn't there yet. Maybe they gotta get to the holidays. We don't know better yes so yeah. Maybe they go through the holidays. Maybe they got up. That's what it is I think now I'm being overly optimistic right. I have no reason to be but I'm thinking hey. We're not gonNA shoot her shot. When no one's watching on Christmas we're not gonNA shoot are shot on New Year's when no one's watching I think that's stupid and kind of old style thinking because if you go back to podcast right what's the biggest podcast ever hit and pro wrestling was when C._N._N.? Pong Pong Shit all over W._B._Z.. You know when that was dropped Thanksgiving Day. It broke a website so the the whole like we can't do it because it's Christmas because new years they will come to you the notification the twitter it will come to you right right. I also think they are trying to say like hey talent. Take a break Yadda Yadda Yadda anyhow so I'm I'm holding out judgment judgment until February right if it's February and it's a triple threat between drew McIntyre VIN Ballard and Doug Stigler then now fuck off right. It's the Gosh what are you doing one over ten everything around no I didn't even attention and just like start doing that. Shit <hes> all right <hes> it's royal rumble incomes your elite guys incomes. <hes> you know what I mean like they. They make a few other changes and they go look. Everything's different now guys one thing. I wanted to point out just like you said more. They do the four horse women and then they'll be like look we brought a new people yeah but like you said more new faces does not mean better because one thing that you're not I'm doing is flushing out the old right so lars Sullivan to smack and that's cool whatever but you know who you still have their Randy Orton or an pick it on radio and a little bit but let's use another person. You still have their tied singer so let's get rid of. Let's get like that's my problem is cool. There's new faces and that's fun for me. I like it right. 'cause that's where you know you can have new stories told with talent. That hasn't yes yet been establish the other thing that I hope changes what one thing that I do hope that changes is when they try these tired storylines. They don't use the tire talent and case in point was the bar and the new day right when the bar has a new person. Don't have it be the fucking big show right. You found an older guy than people who've been on your roster for seven years the thing you can and you can do a I could've been. That's what I'm saying that yes that could have been lower Sullivan. That could have been one of the sanity guys that you're not to use anymore. That could have been the heavy machinery guy the little Jauregui that's good. They're going to be a comedy act by the way a month he they're going for Frat boys and they're not gonNA. They're not gonNA hit yeah. He's GonNa make heavy machinery. I bet you he makes a short little heavy machinery scenery guy a stuttering bubba Ray. That's exactly what I see him doing but they already planned that way annex t that he's down. That's what triple h is doing with them. What do you think Vincent Man Xanadu with them right so so that's for them but anyhow so runs back down? Let's say at least a positive. What was your favorite takeaway besides the announcement wh what did you like and then we'll get into our Christmas thing after the break Boji like what what'd you take away say like okay? I'll get behind this. I I don't know I I felt turned off a lot of by Robbie because I was just like I don't you know I mean like you guys are ending with the natty thing like Y- in with the nanny thing nobody is telling you that the story line is great and that they care and it's not about a fucking woman thing because everybody's telling you they love Becky Lynn's right like we would absolutely support her finishing the show like so that was there they end the baron corporate thing where I just thought they had so many folks angles they could've went off of right like even even if you take him out of power immediately but you just squash them here like he just felt weird right and then the McMahon thing turn I'm out. There was anything on there. I enjoyed smackdown better but I'm worried we talked about Dana Brian. He seems to be dead set ongoing the C._J.. Parker route which is a little unfortunate but whatever people's off much better in fairness and fairness and in fairness most of the people watching him to it right now never heard her seen Parker so Brian. What do they care <hes> so yeah? I really like that MS McMahon segment I just I I do think that hey there at least acknowledging that they've been dropping the ball and they can say some shit and if it's full of Shit they'll see that the ratings aren't improving right so at least threat they can be foolish it all they want as long as we keep not watching when you know what I mean they're full of Shit then that should sort itself out so that's my positive takeaway from raw that maybe they're full of Shit and they'll realize their full of shit. How about that didn't that positive cheer say as well? Hey liked you told me the smackdown main event. That's what I took away because it was hopefully what that whole new faces thing does because you want establish talent right you don't want to just say this is Buddy Murphy Mustafa Ali centric Alexander and Hideo Tommy in our main event of smackdown right because the general fan will be like who the fuck why but how how we've been talking about this entire segment what they did awesome and what I hope they can do from now on is put an established stars with your newcomers right so Mustafa Lee now I know gene burns a champion but even outside of that Mustafa Lee Penning Daniel Bryan makes you go Ho what ex-pat right and C._N._N.. Illness government amazing match win A._J.. Styles was the Chia if if C._N._N.. Can Fuck A._J.. A little bit like Holy Shit will maybe we got something here. Maybe he could eliminate the undertaker in the Royal Rumble then these success and easy but what I'm saying is that that main event gave me a a little bit of hope of like okay in January and February we can see this now. It had the hallmark of one of the stupidest things that we hate is. Hey these two guys. They're going to be a team why now because they don't like those other two guys because they're both European or whatever the fucking Alice and Daniel Bryan have no allegiance to each other. They don't give a shit right but they're a team. That was but what I'm going going to be positive about was that Mustafa. Ali is getting a push now. It's given look like it's something I thought smackdown again was the better show there's a couple of things though that fell flat and this is where hard right because if I write down on paper the Samoa Joe Jeff Hardy Story for Tuesday night smackdown think that's good like I told you that tonight right. If I said okay well we're going to do is we're going to Samoa Joe Apologize But then it turns into intervention and then he's GonNa say how Jeff Hardy can't handle his demons but then Jeff Hardy is going to turn it on him and say like actually you're projecting because you can't win anything now that you're on the main roster project and you grow right but then like Oh okay that's cool which was good disc that you watch it. I don't know the crowd Kinda sat on their hands and I kind of went like Yep. I figured it out Tom. I figured out what the new thing is what they're gonNa do come January like what the new thing is this. It's been right under knows the whole time. We've just been talking about it. It'll be the W._W._e.. Debut of get Outta here. Let's say let's let's not take a break because what I wanNa do before we do this because it is a special show and we're not gonNA Kinda cover in Death Ron smackdown like we did. I WANNA shout out all the glorious fans who have been doing Hashtag tweet the table on twitter right and I picked up the top team right in the top fucking right we picked him out and I'm GonNa read them right here. I ONE WE'RE GONNA start with at b-dubs abby and a score double underscore by the way dude since a bunch of money. GET SOME CORONAS KRONA's. I gotTA BE UPFRONT. I suddenly realize we had to renew the the <hes> the website like in two days and I was like Oh crap and I was like hey. We just got that money from b-dubs so you bought our website. So how about this sorry. We didn't get the krona's we told everybody how great we think are but here's what we're going to do right for the next year the end this website thanks to you when we tell you to visit Spanish announce table Dot net it is Spanish nouns table Dot net brought to you by beatable do th- right you like dad there. You go me double. D Your the website sponsor. How about that? If you want to sponsor anything about this show right you want to sponsor the name you WanNa sponsor tweet the table you wanNA sponsor anything reach out to us right. Maybe soon as a well you would consider a healthy donation right table table short dot com on the papal until what you want to sponsor and we'll consider it and see if we want to accept your donation there you go abby underscored. Double Underscore de says hold up hold up how how long has Carmella been wrapping with our truth during the entrance. That's it has to stop Hashtag tweet the table yeah. That's not coming across well. No I know she's in. What else do you want her to do not pete they're not doing that? She's good but she's the comedy sing thing right now. Like I guess defense I mean she was the comedy thing with with <hes>. What's his name Guy? WHO's yeah no the other guy who's been shown as Dick two little girls Ellsworth right? We haven't talked about that in the news right where that dude's fucking worth who do again that guy's a creep that Kenny first lady throwback here says two thousand eighteen was definitely a year of I for the women in W._W._e.. And hopefully the final of those I will culminates and main eventing Wrestlemainia Hashtag tweet the table ooh ooh. I don't know that W._B._Z.'s ready to swallow that Pilat. Here's here's a quick question before we get back into it because I don't want to be to droning with the segment but do you think and just you know can be short-form if you'd like but do you think the W._w._e.'s emphasis insist on women's pro wrestling <hes> is correlated to their lower ratings. Ooh I think you could attribute lower ratings to subpar product that you've put out there both in your in in ring and your and when I say you're entering. I don't mean that some of these girls are not good in ring what I mean is they're not telling any kind of story for the entering product to go along with right. There's no in ring story going on the matches. I just don't really mean anything to US right. There's not a that I can discern like a hey. This is happening in this match right like and here's how I could tell somebody how this match went down. That's just not there so yes but again when you say that and and we framed the question that way it sounds like we're saying because they're putting out the women no what they're doing is they're forcing women out there that aren't ready aren't good at this and because you just want to say look at how many women were giving this opportunity to will great but you have the better grooming opportunity on your lower levels where they're arguably better off for long-term performance so yet I I could see why that would but it would be the same if they just do random guys from the performance center out there that we're athletic athletic right but then no wrestling all that because that's what they did what kept throwing a subsection of guys that just don't want to watch women's wrestling and when you for the last hour of your show sure yeah and right or wrong whether or not you guys Sarong good or bad thing but I'm just saying you know that I would say that aside and who didn't watch the painting matches and so they tuned off when that was going during a you know again again you can have endless. Dan Brands guys you could have that you you can have a prompt. Danny's Brian if you wanted to write. You probably wouldn't go well for you but you get the idea of what I'm saying here right. Whatever you thought like this is an angle you WANNA go down? You know accidents at the ultimate once's Becky Lynch is the man with or without at the women's title has talked with Table Yet. You think that shines GonNa Fade here with what the what is going on and he thinks she's still rocket upper ass. Do Oh my God. I don't know if you saw this but <hes> Lars Sullivan tried to go at her and Becky Lynch torched console bad that he deleted his tweet. Wow I love her and I like that she's embraced that she's like the People's champ now right so she manages to throw it in without sending she's playing through them really well. Everything sounds so genuine to the point where you know I'm assuming this podcast before but I'm assuming that Charlotte and Becky Lynch are still friends behind the scenes course but all of these tweets make me go surely thinks that she's thought that maybe they're not friends. She's at least thought what she say right whether or not she thinks the cool thing about it is is I don't know right. I don't know if this is real. I don't know maybe Charlotte saying like hey go after this about me right and vice versa but all I know is man. This is real like this is. This is the part where I go like. I don't know that's supposed to happen because manch color bitch think you know right Becky can continue to do that without hitting the same beat. I think she's GonNa be awesome. Atmosphere fourth row says Barron Corbin wants to be the G._M.. But the chairman of the board have something else to say has talked with table and I want to go a little more in depth on this one because I and I agree with you that we shouldn't base the show around. I'm an authority figure drunk with power. I hate all the good guys because I'm an evil person. I just hate smiles and I like my friends or vice versa right. We shouldn't have have that but where you were hitting with Corbin for me was this is a guy who's in over his head to start started kind of get his feet wet managed to figure out that he can kind of role with the punches and can take advantage of the situation but didn't realize that you can only do do that for so long right so even if they would have killed his power right here if you wouldn't have squashed him and you made it almost to where he had a legitimate gripe to be like a I that's not fair. I shouldn't have lost that way that shouldn't count and one of these four McMahon's goes. I agree with him. You know I mean like and then there's an internal struggle and then he has a shot back at this and he's still gets to have his strategic plays with his friends who might be trying to ride with him because he might have shown in power again right like and you have other people vying for power our like there's no reason that like you. There's just these things that they could have done with this and it just became a let's all point laugh at them. Auburn Corbin stands in a sling on him with his but like really a what was the whole runs from several role. I'm sorry Yeah Branston. What was the point of the last couple of months then guys like it's not your show such but it wasn't because of him and it wasn't because of that story line it was because you guys do any of this right? I agree. I think the story I don't think it's over but it if it is over feels like Vincent Man Son Angle where we just exact exactly all right. We'll hit a another one from abby underscore doubled under score d. He says I hope it Lisa Fox walks in gender win this big Mac Shit and win the vacation that way. I don't have to see them for a while. Takes the table yeah the big challenge. Let me go into that so our truth and Carmella win your mix match challenge right. They mixed match champions of a turnament that you need important enough to give them the thirtieth spot in the royal rumble coming up next month in their first madge after winning the tournament and getting the thirtieth spot and taking their vacation creation to the W._B._Z.. Headquarters Blanche's which is only stupid just fun well Yeah Right Times. Can Our truth play dumb black guy. That's a little racist. That's beside the point but right so so you're mixed matched challenge champions their first match since getting this victory and writing this momentum like wave the crowd behind lose to Ms and a partner MS MS didn't even pick maslow's just handed tournament was team lost two random team. You dumps exactly. There's no there's it's no and this is where the help from the outside people who do this more successfully in terms of storytelling are better at they're going to be able to see the overall. I think we're going to cover this in the next segment the overall theme of the product that you're putting out of any particular brand right like there's got to be an overarching theme that everything falls under it can't contradict it and it can't you know what I mean like. If you want ms to get that victory with mystery partner then he can further his storyline with Shane McMahon to get them to be come a tag team that is awesome and that is great but it's even okay that if our truth and Carmella lose that match where it's Matt Okay is if our truth and Carmella just lose clean where he has to happen is our truth says hey babe. We already won this match. I don't really want to work that hard. I'm really looking forward to the vacation. I WANNA do random dance break break and that's how they lose says hey you know I just got my hair. Did I'm not tagging wait till after the rumble yet something Miss I wanNA keep them both baby face but you can't just have love your champ end of a tournament that you say is important just lose but I'm saying they don't. Have anybody saying exactly what you just said. They need somebody job position assistant just yeah no it doing it but there's this for you. Tim All right listeners doing all of us because they don't have anybody. They're doing that right. There's nobody sitting there going okay. They're looking at okay in match one you did this guy is you can't then in match three the same thing and we call it a good thing right like there's no oversight. It feels like and correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know I'm not back there but it feels like they've got a bunch of agents assigned to certain people right like so these people have bro Dog and these people have whomever and they open they go all right. You got the four segment and you have this match the foods this we're building to this many. What are you going to do night and they go oh? We thought we'd do this and then they go works. Okay fine right and row dog might think of his four matches writing everything was good. Nobody's mixing up but somebody else over here is handling their for people right and I feel like those two aren't talking right because we get a lot of the same things happening. The same characters just repackaged in slightly different ways. There's not enough off singular oversight of strategic planning right. There's no strategic planning the brand story line a little bit on the talent right like if you are truth and Carmelo you can't just say and I don't know if they did or not but I'm just saying it seems this way. You can't just say like okay boss networks. I'll lose their say like no it. My character were to lose day would be doing this way or this way or why would they be okay after the match and you should say that because you know what like you don't have that fear anymore that we talked about like where there's no other game in town right cody Rhodes finally said I'm not doing this anymore and he's one of the most successful goddamn wrestlers out there now. You know what I mean now. He has talent but you also have to shoot someone on Main Street to get fired from W._b.. Because they just keep your answer for fucking ten years on the Ross Truth so listen Islas move on at Katie first lady says well how about instead of time the breeze. Let's just call them tyler black. He's not named Seth rollins has taken at the table. That would work yeah. I I like it. Let's go get away from if you were going to go away from his gimmick right and you WANNA turn him like off. He could just be like I'm black like just like our that works. All right at Wer. Cata says I'd rather have a two who our raw better storytelling realism and non scripted promos before new faces Hashtag tweet the table and I agree with them a lot and we're gonNA talk about some of that my Christmas wish list but I mean we're GonNa talk specifically about to our aw in you know so we'll we'll save some of that. Talk Walk in the obvious counterpoint to that but <hes> yeah. I think we've he's echoing everything. We've kind of said here. It's not about just new faces guys like you're not storytelling. There's no realism and your promos sound way too scripted acted like three glaring problems you have that you can fix with acting coaches. You can teach with even just education like normal school. Go to a full sail doesn't have an acting class like where they just kind of discuss like here's here's here's script writing and here's here's the theme of like storytelling throughout time like there's none of this like none of this and I just I don't get it all right to left. We got at Feo seventy five says Vince McMahon announces on raw that he's transferring his brain onto a Johnson a clone and he will continue to run the W._W._e.. For the next eight years and we'll develop the X. L. B. X.. P. H. L. L. S. to begin in two thousand twenty Hashtag tweet the table. That sounds plausible. Sounds more original than what they did and at the ultimate one says my Bay Oscar has the title but she's being treated like a third string quarterback aspect with will begin she is she is the third string quarterback of that roster of the of the storyline will yeah okay. I have a confession okay so I hate it Oscar. I know you stupid unnecessarily surly so no it was very promo. She was being booked as this unstoppable force. which didn't it didn't look like it right? Yeah I agree. It had a had a look that it made me think of a kiosk Gamal and nothing about her was charismatic now. She does all these weird dumb things like when they started chaining her name and she searched his shimmying. Yes cute. She's fun to watch cheers. Matt Dorky Lewis Charming Aspect of her care. You could had a party hang out with her. Never say a word because you're going to do some fun dances. You're gonNA share some knowing glances right. You need to be Comedy Act but Roy doing that humanizer exactly going through the first women's T._l._C. match coming out as a victor gives you some credibility whereas hated the the whole shares undefeated streak will first off. She's not beating anyone. It was just bunch of bombs and then when she finally did face someone she lost the Wrestlemainia some fuck her but now she's doing all these little fun things she saying no one's ready for Oscar she you can go through and has credibility winning the first royal rumble and now winning the first women's steel see she can hold herself in the ring third-string. Yes I'm not hey near as much as I used to I never did I always felt that that way. I'm like yeah absolutely right. You'RE GONNA put her in the match to help Becky Lynch get through somebody so we can get to Charlotte or we can right. You know what I mean like. She's the she's the what basically said was the maintenance guy right like yeah. We're not like I always felt like we shouldn't be having these major long. TITLE UNSURE NAS Qatada run here and there but she's never should be like the on the poster the face but she absolutely is great to be the counterpoint to those people that you're trying to build right. You know what I mean like. She's definitely that level be for me is all how I always felt now. I know that was sacrilegious to some people like the best thing ever getting ripped off when they're like. She's the best female pro wrestler two thousand eight. I would've bought it. I would've bought it if she was unstoppable because she was sly and technically savvy enough to beat these girls were more powerful or more exp- or whatever right like because she knew the the the correct <hes> way to choke them out or she knew that right. You know what I mean like and it was was just unstoppable because she was so skilled but they weren't doing that. It was just here's a match and she one was like okay and yet now. Maybe I'm also just getting beat down with the stupid nece and now I'm finding charming but I also you know before this. I hated awkward stupid dance that she would do when I looked unstoppable force it's like it looks like she's having a seizure. She walks to the ring who's scared of that and what's with all these goddamn colors fucking Jesus the skills and then put it into a coat. It's like yeah it was like if they had Zack Ryder come out with the one leg pants still doing the long island is e and they were like he's unstoppable and nobody can beat them. What uh-huh maybe just because they've done it so long? It's like it is what it is. You've just accepted and now she's not. It's even though she's a champion. She's also a number one Becky Ledge Charlotte. You know what I mean Ed Stockholm Syndrome I have to the table you to play along <hes> we may read some of them on the show that they're only promise we definitely might read some of them on the show if Ashtec to the table with any wrestling thought you have it anytime of the day whenever you damn wealthy like it. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. We'll come back and we're going to give us our Christmas wishlist. You're going to be our Santa and we're going to sit on your lap you right now. We are both gonna sit on your lap and we're going to tell you what we want for Christmas whispered here when we come back to the suspension heads Table Fun fact the largest exporter of sugar is Cuba the Spanish announce table. It is the Christmas season. I'm starting off the segment because I'd like to talk to you. I <hes> one thing that is starting to become a tradition in my family is my dad all of a sudden as taken up the duty of dressing up Santa and providing <hes> not make a wish because it's not official official through that organization but essentially going to either nursing homes or kids who cannot <hes> leave their house because of health concerns and being Santa for those people last two years been doing that win over over to my friends yeah one over to my friend Chris's House. He had his baby prematurely at four months all of these things all the mercy out once a children's mercy. We did <hes> <hes> Christmas last year there now Levi that's the baby's name she's home but she says the tree and things like that. Yeah my is almost not enough. That's bare minimum almost to to live outside of it. Yeah Yeah and then Chris went to or excuse me my dad over Christmas house. This year dressed up Santa also goes to retirement homes. I always ask him if he knows anyone because he's old but he goes there and Santa for them so go see her high school class there <hes> executives right that is becoming a fun during Christmas season you know as as usual when you visit you tell seeing what you want for Christmas and so as a tradition on this podcast we tell C.. which in this case is you the listener what we want for Christmas so tim what for Christmas in pro wrestling this year? It's my turn to tell Santa. which is the listener Yep all right? I'm GONNA sit on your lap listener right. I JUST WANNA make sure everybody's aware of what's happening. I wish starting to make it weird. I'd like to make an awkward sometimes you is. I'M GONNA call it. The elephant in the room and I'm GonNa wish that W._W._e.. Is Real with their promise changes right. I'M GONNA wish on every wish we've got number one. I hear that they're buying time like you're saying right that they get in there like okay we at least got address it. We can't act like it doesn't exist anymore. We've had the worst rating ever enough. People are saying it that we would be worse off to not even say anything right like yeah. We're waiting on you know whoever to clear up and Yada Yada and Sanjay ride sure right like we've got X Y and Z plan. We just gotTa buy time to hear while the ratings are going to segment of what we do. I hope that's right. That's my number one. Wish because <hes> I just they've got to do something different right and so at this point almost anything different is welcome but man you can really fuck up some different rights on a little of a little have some anxiety over this. I don't know that's my wish that they're designed that they that they actually fully get it and they actually have some legitimate stuff plan because what they gave us as the look at the new changes was like why that's a change right right I agree I agree. That's that's a big wish but I like. I'm going to smaller as bold. My I wish for Santa is that we put Matt Riddle on Monday night raw and I want him now in the main event picture right because everyone wants the debut in guy to be the main of Wrestlemainia get there. I'm talking just two thousand nineteen for two thousand nineteen. I want him to be intercontinental champion. I Love Matt Title. I think he's great. I think he's awesome for one reason in particular why I'm so high on Matt Riddle is he is an intimate fighter who got fired from the U._F._C. on four fight winning streak because of smoking we'd but his wrestling character has nothing to do with intimate now. His style in ring is an intimate but they don't say he does the rear naked chokes all of that stuff but he is the king of Bros.. Right and I love that he is so nonchalant. He is so cool he flips the flip flops off. He hangs out he swings his flowing. She's eating grin on his face at it also he's he's more attractive than half of the divas on the wrong or half of the women superstars on the roster. Everybody knows his cooler than everybody Yep and he can kick your ass right. He's awesome and so I want Mike I wish is I want Matt rental to be on Monday night raw and at least once become the intercontinental champion that's good. I like that one that one is not as bold as the one I had before. I like that really good. One second. One was second ones even more bold. Tom And you're on top shelf. I am going top shelf because it's a wish if anybody can make a wish happen it Santa you the listener her member. I'm on your lap all right it. Did we talk about that. <hes> okay yeah I did. It's a two hour Bra Tom. If ratings are this crappy your advertising -tising isn't gonNA come in at a top dollar anyway right. GotTa get back. You've gotta get back to the to our raw until the better stories to build it back up. If you WANNA get back to a third hour raw maybe you can get there but like to did this is suck and this is terrible. It all sucks so I wanted to go back to our <hes> that's less likely to happen the other way but saying Santa as I tell you whisper quietly in your ear some on your lab listener me all right my second back on this one six for all your hate meal at bringing all right all right. My second wish is more. It's a wish but it's also I WANNA see if we're all right on the man before. The man was Becky Lynch if you remember in W._b.. The man before Becky Lynch was Seth Rollins and one thing we say to lower blue in the face is man. We should build this company around Seth rollins right well if you look historically and at the numbers anytime seth rollins is being featured in the main event ratings aren't the best now now since the brand split and since his emergence as a top guy he's always been on raw so my wish is that we transfer Seth rollins over to smack down which we all kind of consensus agree. He is the better show and I want to see if Seth rollins the man can actually come through and be the focal point of a great wrestling show so my wish that he gets moved over to smack down as top guy champion champion but I wanna see I wanna see him on the better show and if he's on the better show. Let's see if he can do what we all think he can do. I like this. I like the slot because it's GonNa roll very well into my third wish for saying let's see yeah <hes> <hes>. It's that you said you WanNa see him on the better show right because you think is going to work better over there right. You know what I mean right right right <hes>. I think it's there's so many things that factor into why you consider smackdown better we agree right the better but it may be for different reasons that I think smackdown better right or I may think Ross bidder for a variety of reasons right somebody out there might think better. I want you to reconfigure your brands. They need to be much more different from each other right W._W._e.. This is what I want like. The Rock can be your more comic book. Ask Your your nighttime drama esque right. You're you're very storyline. Driven wild characters <hes> doing more outlandish things right. You're smackdown can be more of your just. This is a solid dude with a name right and he's a bad ass and he's an athlete and he's better than this other guy and I've been better than you forever. You can remember we go back right and you tell those kind of storylines right like that. That's like it can be wildly different wildly different like a totally different fields right like your segments can be different lengths your your storylines can be of a different variety of nate. You know like it's just your next can be completely different kind of is from the other ones but not enough if you get what I'm saying like they're being different things going on INEX- team. He's an outlier because you consider that like a Bi level so I get that but maybe you have a bi level of one of those brands right like because you can tell certain towns fit better into that I do think seth rollins fits better into the this a guy right like this is a guy who's really great at what he does and he's cool in some aspects right like to some people and he does Crawford and he does you know what I mean like He. He wears the the comic book stuff so he's got those guys right like that's his own Gig League right like Dean Ambrose kind of fits into that he's not an outlandish character right but like a Roussev and Nakimora and a bronze stroman whose guys fit on raw because that's a comic book and it's a cartoon in its Bra and screaming and stuff like that right like you can have totally different brands with different looks different fields way format it to five live can be or ray mysterious your Johnny Gargano is you're actually two oh five and under and it can be more R._O.. H Like like you just had this variety of it. That's my wish and that would I think utilize your talent better. You can focus on those kind of story lines. It's just much more efficient to me. I like it all right. Here's my third story line now. It's Kinda as we've progressed during this podcast episode. It was something that I announced kinda changed as I've been thinking about it so I'll say originally what it is and then I'll give you a second kind of wish on top of that so my main wish that I will say to censor is I want one one storyline to dominate W._W._e.. For Two thousand nineteen from January two December I want one story line that dominates everything affects everyone. I E and <hes> going top shelf with this <hes> comparison but you get what I'm saying. I E stone cold versus Vincent Man Again. I don't need it to be authority right. You can go to e C W and say Tasr versus Seibu you can go to W._C._w.. And say sting versus the N. W. O. But what I'm saying is I want one storyline that affects an entire roster and everyone is tuning in for star cade ninety seven you go back and watch that pay review. No one gave a shit about the first five matches of that card 'cause we were all there for the main event now to that suck for the first five show or five matches of that show yeah but guess what you're the first five matches of the show suck addict. I'm I'm tired of thirty percent of ten fucking stories. They get pushed onto one card who A._J.. vers were hey becky versus surely hey we got brown versus Barron Corbin well. None of these stories are really been flushed out. We have one person Becky Hugh Lynch who just making a name for herself on her own on twitter but we have no real one story the same thing about Vincent man and stone cold and we said this off air bits McMahon stone cold was such an intricate storyline in the W._W._e.. V._W.. Fabric that factions came off of those two people feuding you had remembered the union when it was kin Jim Rock and mankind and big show that was to combat the corporation which the corporation was a CO created to get rid of Stone Gold Steve Austin. You know what I'm saying so it's this I wanNA do one stolen. I want to go to Wrestlemainia. I really wanted to Wrestlemainia but I want to go to Wrestlemainia and tell people I'm going to see you. Fill in the blank versus fill in the blank and again it can be becky lynch versus Rhonda it can be the McMahon's verses delete it can be the four horsemen women versus the four horsewoman it can and be Gurgaon. Oh versus CIAMPA whatever it is. I want one story to be the thing I love it. I love Tom and I think it it gives credence to everything I've been tonight why they need people who've written successful like storyline driven television in why they need acting classes and why they need to kind of focus on that because that's how you and how People Watch television vision if I'm sitting under watch two hours we and we if I'm sitting on to watch two hours or sitting on to watch three hours. I'm sitting on to watch a television show or a movie essentially every night that I'd do it. You have to tell that story as such or Elsa doesn't make sense no but what I was gonna say by my kind of secondary wish on top of that wish and this is me being a little bit greedy. It doesn't even have to be W._B.. Someone right yeah. I love it. You know me you know that I love it. Anybody that can figure this out. We'll be telling the better story. It's dad yeah you can have various subplots and story lines but when I sit down to watch the show I gotta think I know that like Oh my God this week last week. They did this so this week X. Y.. Z. Could happen or A._B._C. could happen but like I I know we start watching on smackdown and we go Shimane anything fucking. I don't know what the fuck is going to happen. In that like nobody knows nobody knows off or or you can lead it into God Daemon. I cannot late for tonight because fillon the blank. He'll is going to get his right yeah. I can look forward to something to it doesn't always have to be surprised me surprise surprised me surprise me. It can be a great story line where the payoff is going to be awesome like you can have a storyline goto where you know next week on raw someone returns and they're going to confront the heel and you go like Oh Shit GonNa do what is she going to do. Is Braun STROWMAN GONNA come back and flip. Goddamn truck again like that was cool. You know what I'm saying so I just I have to necessarily because one the thing we don't want to happen because what we've been talking about one thing I don't want this to become as far as what our desires are is been through so booking right and then this and then guess way he was always in the box like Oh but you do that right like there's like a and I I keep hating to liken it because like you said it's not the same thing but like when you watch randoms whatever like you don't always get that feel from those programs right like it's not always like Oh and here it doesn't feel formulaic right like it. It doesn't have to be but there has to be enough intrigue and dance and the Green watching episode. You know exactly like what's going to happen in this episode would've dexter or you know what exactly is going to have this episode of breaking bad but it's so compelling interesting in intriguing that you're okay with it and again you can say like we all know that Barron Corbin this week is going to get his ass kicked but the story leading up to is what makes us tune in and rights can't just go even at that even if we go hurry we all know bear in corporate going to get his ass kicked right or he's GonNa lose is GONNA lose power right but what's not intriguing. Entertaining haning is a bunch of guys beat them up with stuff and a one our man stands on him. You guys aren't putting enough thought and that's it. It's it's it's that they've kind of forgotten that they've been so focused on like live gate emerge and growing this network. They've kind of forgotten that like your your commercial to the world to bring a new fans. Is this televised product. 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The Rack Extra: NXT Takeover Phoenix

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The Rack Extra: NXT Takeover Phoenix

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On the actual art of opportunity this right here that champ that runs the cat live talk radio network. I knew you. And good evening everyone. Welcome to the wreck extra views right here on wild talk radio dot com. And we are here with an x t takeover Phoenix. He's rock. I'm lindsay. We're here. We're back and we're not alone. We have guests. The annex t analyst TJ. Oh my God. Oh my God. My god. God, I'm I got him. I got into my God. Yes. Kind of. Kind of. Twenty thousand leaks under the sea. The busiest shark of them will the assistant through the assistant regional shark. Intern shark came getting. Okay. I'm gonna need a minute. I'm feeling really good. But apparently Papa hunters out feeling really good at all right now chaffeur hunter. So yes, we are here to talk all about NFC takeover. Phoenix whole by God this show this show. I think in pregnant because Jesus This was a show. I feel bad for everybody. Tomorrow. I hate to compare them. But Tamara we find is the rumble. It's different beast. Everything will be fine. I know that that this was beautiful good really good by way. This is presented by Garrick be films dot com, m NBC twelve eleven you can tweet us that while talk rock critic show twits that he's not alive at recreation dot com or while talk radio dot com. Arc with they're all the Fugger away. Ken dame? Can we just say how awesome it is to see when a husband can get their wife into their entering? Do you know she was geeking out onto that fucking held pro she you could see the big old smile interface. If you don't know what we're talking about. We're in about the first match with is the war raiders taking on disputed era and the war raiders showed up. They brought the whole village with them because they come out with a crew of Vikings ready and willing and able to fi and one of those little Vikings just happens to be Raymond's brother or brother, wife, wife, Raymond's wife. Yeah. He got he got his wife in their also excited. She tweeted on the twenty fifth taking my Viking helmet through TEFA. This should go. Well that are have helmet than a sword. She did it during the shutdown so impressive. That's impressive. Yeah. Any time to get a battle-axe over on an airplane. That'd be I wanted to see this life. Well, you could've shut up. Could've been there. Don't lie. It wanted us. I didn't know they were gonna fucking start off with a Viking intro for God's sake. This hurt soul. You know, the next time they come and they bring in x t with them. You just you go. I know you you don't you? Don't wind about the money. You just go devil. I met Knicks t comes for Phoenix. I will go that will fan was there. You could met up with him. Because have a good time out eight you all see devils fan. Got to see the Vikings move onto the match and. Interesting. You got your see Viking Jan joins the Minnesota ones. Anyway, moving onto the Minnesota Vikings. No one enjoys the Vikings. This match was all about, hey, I'm going to take wrestler and throw them at Ressler b. That's the man I've never seen someone based offense on using another human is a weapon before. Okay. One time. Okay. We're gonna skip a woman slamming onto okay, fine. Seven more moves later where still throwing other people at other people feel like the standard set for the the war raiders. It's a joke of us because it's Carlin joke, and I really like it. But the perfect murder being using one person to kill another person. They both died and there's no murder weapon. This this. Is that joke tight over and over? But it's done well over and over you do have to say that the. Yeah. Absolutely. This was so. Thing you could imagine Hanson as the MVP of this match. No questions is. Oh, yeah. With without question has great ro had his good spots playing the the face in peril. It was God. The the cross body and power slam or power bomb spot. I it's one of the things like you think it would get old. But God when he pulls it off it looks so good. It's a brutal amount of power shows. I don't want them to go to the main roster. They were there they need to stay where they're at. They could just be bad asses down there. They don't need to go. The main Ross through the main roster does deserve them. They can't have them. You have hands out there doing cartwheels than hands stands, everything everything you can imagine you wouldn't think man that big could do all that. But apparently he can of as a big guy myself. It's one of those things I look at him and go I wanna be that a cart wheel Handspring off the rose just being able to, you know, land, a frog splash with ease is just it's insane. What he can do with his body. They were lot of near falls that got you really invested in this match up. And they just tore the house down. It was a great opener. It was the tone. It's it absolutely set the tone. This was perfect. This is everything you could want. I miss tag team wrestling this good. I've missed. Good thing, we get this e every three months. And in the end in the end, though, undisputed era gets taken down and the raiders hick up the next t- tag team champions a well-deserved victory. And can I just say this is going to be the theme of the night is I'm happy with the result. But God does it hurt. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't mind getting about two or three more of these stood up. I I would be I just need the whole few between these these two because God is good. I just feel like that's it in general. I e just the caliber of talent you have in the rain together. It's a it's going to be nothing, but good like you can't put these guys in there and have it you just can't because the same thing when we saw undisputed era versus strong style. Moustache mountain is like it's not gonna suck. You know? It's not because they're just too good. When you get that cohesive attack team together. And then you get two of them is just magic wouldn't. I would what I would like to see is you have the different incarnations of the era trying to beat the war raiders. That would be hilarious. So you have like, okay. You guys lost now fishing coal. You guys. Get in there lose okay, Roddy and fish get in there. And it's just they keep trying and keep just coming up short. And you can just watch the fr. Astray shin growing on this group. What does it take the beat them? And then in the end undisputed Eric beat them, and maybe the war raiders banish them from an XT possibly via way. It would be way. I believe this point. This is where we saw Tony storm in Pedone in the in the crowd to just talk about that pairing for a second. And how Pete was absolutely horrified that he was next to Tony storm, and she's just little miss sunshine. Lighten smiles, and she touches his arm, and he's just like, please don't fees me. That's a Lexus British cousin from what she looked like in there in the crowd tonight. They looked related actually she's technically Australian whatever Australian cousin there works in Britain. Twos. Sure is not I know several people that will that with you. I know. One of them is and just so you know, what? Up next after we have little miss sunshine in light and groppy grow Persson himself. We get your bro tastic met that. Right. This was lit is. So lit the number one, bro himself. I don't know. How many times I can drop this before gagging lit Matt riddle taking on cashier Sono. This is a really nice cool down match after the war raiders. Nice. Little nice old Twitter. There was a vicious kick to the face to riddle from Ono at one point in his match. Like how bro friends was like? Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Goes just doing our. I don't know severe Matt real look. I mean, I. Character. He has a tattoo of a mushroom on his ribs. That's all you need to know. I feel like that's partially the character. I'm pretty sure they drug test them. So I don't think he was actually high, but he's probably really good at acting high. So I think brim had the best description for this pack up as we were talking about it. Todd. Can't remember the jock coming? Oh. Yeah. This look like a fight outside of a fraternity house for God's sake. Not ally. Yeah. Guy described. I described it as a drunk jock fighting a beach bum pretty accurate fairly accurate was I don't know. I think. It was okay. I think Matt riddle is extremely talented. I think Ohno's good at what he does. I don't need to see them anymore. I just feel like they don't have the chemistry together. It's like there's just a yet caches on his whole thing. Or is like I'm gonna fight whoever the next it person is in an XT. And so that way there's buzz about me again and detonated. I like get that the whole story with him. But it's just like he met riddle. It's there's just no spark otherwise than by this point. There should be more than just a will. You're the next eight guy in the next t-? We've talked about riddle or our own oh being the gatekeeper event. XT we have we had the gatekeeper of the WWE indulge Sigler. I think the differences Ziglar can sell for anyone and make it look really good. I don't know if Ono has that capability is just it seemed like a mishmash of styles that just didn't coalesce. Well. Oh, no sorry. Go ahead. This is one of those matches that Ono has reminds you. He's really not in great shape compared to a lot of the guys wrestles. Yeah. Like, you said it before is like you said during the match like he looked you know, with riddle in the ring he looks really big. But not in a good way. He it looked like I don't even know how to describe it like you said when when we were talking during the Matt he just looks massive. But not in that kind of like Brock Lessner verses and other guy massive it just it looked like a street. You know, like old Kim boastssix life fights on VHS kind of matchup. It just didn't look pretty in the end the original borough be really, bro, the bro of the mall lit up cash zone for the three making him Pap out in a weird way of doing as mission is he just confounding beating on being on a meeting on them. Legend him. Yeah. It was a really awkward finish for that. A couple of those tonight couple finishes. It just felt a little off. I liked the over finish more than like this one Moga again with this was just really awkward. You don't see people tap out to just straight beatings. Because usually the ref polls pulls them apart before it comes to that. Actually, they just I I don't know why that of me almost thinks that they like ended this a little early thoroughly and noise rose field is go ahead and send him home kind of being on the right time just realized ten minutes, the Maja, wait. These folks can't wrestle together. Bullet bullet pull it quick quick. Okay. So before we wanted next man, and we need to make a prediction here now because it's about to go down. We'll Jackson swagger a land. More punches in his first fight and see him. Yes. Yes. Okay. Because it's about to go down on TV right now. So far to get that in. We will we get this this matching on awful people. We the people all right next. The reason why at least one of US Department. We all are Johnny are gone over says ricochet for the North American championship. Holy Jesus on pogo stick. Yeah. I need I need ricocheted tested for legit. Whatever the hell, captain marvel is made out of because all my God. He has some of that he's more human than human. I mean. Thanks, rob. How did he do half of that? How I needed. I need an actor. How he did most of that? Because he knows the man no cells physics is what he does. I I would just like to say what did he show up as today? That's how he did it. He legit superhero. He's miles Morales in disguise fries. Now, I said I said it on Twitter after tonight Spiderman needs to dress like ricochet. Yeah. Yeah. That's accurate. This match was just unbelievably good just there's the crazy moves to the storytelling to all of it this. I I'm kind of sad. This wasn't the main event. But the main of it was so good that I can't be mad at it. So he does the six thirty and landed on his feet. How magic it two friggin Steiner off the top rope in landed on his feet guard Gano no guard like our guys did bring his diner to him. And he did a full will retention to fucking. Front flips land on his feet. Yeah. At that moment. Johnny had the look on his face. Like, take me. I think we all had the look on our faces of just take me. I grew uterus in that spot candidates in the back going. Go ahead. So like they went to the outside. They pulled up you saw Johnny the mess with rain. Like do. I do I use the concrete count use a concrete and now it's back rig more stuff, and they wind up by the concrete and the wind need the suplex. You just hear this thud? It's the last bit of the old Johnny wrestling, just dying in at one moment. Get me, but you heard the thud when he had the country. Oh god. And then the follow up that just solidified it as well. Ellos throws him back. Throws ricochet back into the ring gets up on the apron looks at him as he stands up and utters in his best impression of EMA. I win DDT one two three. Johnny Gargano is your new North American championship. Now. Mega you made. An interesting point. We were watching this. You said I'm really glad to Mosa challenged didn't show up e 'cause batch was already insanity. It just would have been over the top with him in the match. I don't think we ever thought he was gonna show this one. We always thought Johnny was going to be in the main of vent wouldn't name more sense. No someone did touch on it on Thursday. Actually, I think the general person was for the minute. Anyway. There was nothing wrong about that match. You can't find a fault in that match. I know people on there will pick it apart Varis to spotty and everything like that. There's like you can do mood. You had moved to kill you. And then oh my God. It's a two point nine nine nine nine nine, blah, blah, blah blah flipping natch fair. Good. I was gonna say to be fair. I'm one of the people that usually complains about spotty matches this match had its high spots, but you at least guts selling in between of it. That's the difference. Was the fact that you know, when you hit, you know, five forty off the top rope that it's not just Gargano springs right up and hits a super kick. It's instead he hits it, and then Agawam might be against the ropes. But with the next move heads. That's when you can hit the next thing. You can see there was physically draining of energy and motion in the in in their faces exhaust there was actual transitions. Yeah. In some edges in the flu matters where there's no there's no selling. There's no exhaustion being saying. Oh, I'm fine. I'm fine flip. Flip flip flip flip super. Get. Clips flip flip flip still breathing. Fine sweat. No, nothing. You're not really selling each. Lease moves were impactful, and you could see taking on each man. Throw the matching. Yeah. There was there was content there between between the moves. And I feel like that's what does fast is. Yes, he can pull off. Absolutely insane moves the man defies gravity. But he knows how to tell really good stories. Well, he knows how to sell. He knows how to make what he does count. And that's important Johnny Gargano as well. I mean that goes without saying for Johnny. I mean, Jesus cars, he's amazing. But regatta Shay is just we're all like just take us. Just I feel like the entire wrestling community is in love with ricochet like actually in love with him. Not just this whole platonic. Yeah. He's a great guy. No. We just ruined love with him. We all wanna marry him. This is like it's one of those things where on the indie scene. People known this about registering for a long time. I get to see like watching undergrad, I got to say prince Puma do a lot is really cool stuff. That's spot that we love so much where he's doing front flips out of her Coronas landing on his feet. He did that with coach Bucci years ago and people lost their minds. Oh, yeah. Now, we get to see it on a grand stage. And now everyone, oh, this is what I was talking about. Okay. And the fact that he can still do it. It's a how only he's only gotten better. I have never I have never in my life seen anyone who knew what they could do in the ring. So well in these so confident at it at all times, he knows what his body can do where the ring is where the floor is an exactly how to make the to mesh. There was one really like super awkward spot in this match. And I'm not sure quite your happen. What? Happened there. But it's like a one point they're getting back in the ring and ricochet kinda wrestles Johnny up, and and he said wrenches them up of her children than he just kind of like two or fighting. And I'm not sure if they're supposed to be flip involved or something. But Cochet just kinda like Chuck's Johnny Johnny to sort of face plays into the mat was like, the only really awkward moment in this mash, but everything else was just dead on spectacular Assam to get sucked into the core, which I kind of coughed up to just exhaustion. Yeah. Yeah. If you didn't see this match. How how could you not see this match? Please go watch his match. Go out of your way to see this match at some point. Yeah. I may have to watch this again several times moving on. We have the ladies, and I feel Simi Babar Shane Bianca because he did have to follow this match. But they followed it up in spectacular fashion. As the NFC championship was on the line. Bianca Bel Air had a star making appearance shayna, certainly didn't look bad. And yeah, this was this was a good one. Little awkward good. You have a front. You had a prime opportunity with this crowds. Make Bianca Bill a star among stars because they bought into her funding. Allthough those emissions. Oh, jesus. They got behind her. And they wanted to see her win. Like everyone was on the doing see for her to win. Could you talk about the in the selling of the arm and house? She didn't do it like other student because she did, Sal, it guess reliable the second. She did sell the 'cause she held onto him multi-million. She do moving whatever. Yes. But she was still selling the arm. It's something where she won tonight. She was a major star. But her stock rose tonight. And I think that was the best part about this, man. You made you made it legit talent. Now who can go on the fight the top talent, you know, she has a legit beef in the fact that the to the Touche nets will call them showed up and interfered in the match before. Women Shane ATs at this point. It don't become the horsewoman until they get the fourth, and she may not be around that much longer depending on Rimmer anyway. So they show up the somewhat cost her that masters. Also, the ref bunt the in this match. So we could does have a legit beef to go back to Reagan be like I wanna one on one. And I wanted in like a cage or I want it where they're banned from ringside or I wanna stipulation added to dispatch to ensure that there are no shenanigans this time, and then I'm taking her title in rope before we continue on L. Well are true. Wrapping Jackson her to the ring. Oh, you didn't hear about that? I did. But why God about that? He's getting hard to getting booed. I wrapping him to the oh. Of course because they can hear it. And I want you all to remember take a moment that you're number thirty competitor tomorrow swagger is wearing a we the people shirt anyway voting. Both. Just I'm pretty sure. That it's P infringement. But okay. All right. We'll we'll move on from that. I do want to say they made it like, you know, I made a comment in this match where they're like, I don't think there's anybody that could take on Shane obeys ler. And I'm sitting here like I wouldn't mind seeing rear Ripley. Take a shot. Pretty sure she could mess up. So maybe book it somebody. But Bianca Bianca gave a run for money in. Yeah. Bianca late news a little bit more polishing. But it's there you see it. It's there, and when she's when she's ready to go, I'm gonna need Bianca versus sausa- who will come. I need that in my life can with hard about how with the hair whip. Cut opens in the stomach. Yes. All I didn't see a cut. Oh, yeah. It that's nap. And then the cameras zoomed right in. And there was a Mark drew blood tonight. This is a good, man. It's is a civil gimmick. Look, good Lord. Is that work? I liked the ACA was in a position where she actually had a cell, which usually doesn't have to. She did really Java that all things considering cushy do better. Yes. But she was under pressure. She delivered. I had a good magic in a tough spot because they follow them. They were after Gargano and Rick has. Yeah. Yeah. Pity? Anyone who had the follow that? But I'm glad the girls were second from the top in terms of the order. So it was like they're still in in the top position. They delivered a now I can see a four way coming Russell many weekend. 'cause you gotta get you in there, you guy get sane in there. You gotta get 'em. All involve the thing. Doing EEO shave him. Maybe the move. I don't know. But I think we're better by I least no on TV's in the next two months progress against six person tag of it. Yeah. Probably lots to happens with. Shows up. He doesn't and maybe who gets called up laugh to see. But yeah, this was this was good again, they'll continue to polish up Bianca and work with her and get her really raring to go when they get her when they get her ready for the main roster. She is going to be something you can see it. You can actually see the talent. And just the ability. She just needs a little bit of of that polish. And that only comes with experience and experience. Let's talk about the main event. Let's let's talk about job of versus Alastair block macgyver Perot. The other reason I'm probably pregnant tonight. Good God this match, I need more of this in my life, number one. Because these two were fantastic, which they should have been. They were the main event, and they absolutely lived up to it was a good match. It wasn't as good as the Gargano web AME. I feel like a lot of matches are going to suffer today and tomorrow because they're not Gargano. Yeah. I think it was a much more. Grounded and hard hitting match which when you have. Yeah. Ricocheting Gargano doing the stuff they're doing. It's going to take a little bit of a seat. But I think overall the storytelling this one was better is just so good at being that dastardly asshole. He'll he's just so good at it that I don't know if there's many the do it better than him. He's got it. So nail down. They've needed someone like him in that role for a long time. You've had MS as the smarmy he'll up on the main roster. The closest I think you've gotten I don't know in the past and years could have been Orton at times. But yet the what's yomp embodies when he does his work is just next level. And it's not anything terribly complicated is not anything even knew Neak. It's, but it's the way it's just the way. He does it. He has planning for Christmas. You were going to say, it's just him. If him almost be. Being him. But you know, it's not him him. He's not that exactly. But he's pulling that side of his personality out, and he's cranking it up, and he's using it. And it's just incredible. He has the charisma he has the timing to no one to do it. And that's the key. He knows when do it and knows when not to one of the series. He knows what wouldn't be slimy. He knows it all these really good at what he does. And I really hope they don't earn him. Keep him down to them as long as you can. Yeah. Him and Gorgon about RAM in Ghana. Both breaking news swags gets twin. Wow. Best in the world. He took a punch early. But then the dude down and the end up winning the fight. I'm sorry is is it wrong that I get joy over that. And and what it means for someone else who he drove a big for them right to the head, boom. Now, you take that John Royden? Enjoy it out. So good job. Good job swags. Time out one time. You'll find me rooting for Jack. So anyway, back to this Matt we do have to talk about the selling of the knee because Alastair black hits this insane spot or he needs the best way to describe it as he needs yamba off the top term buckle onto the floor. And for the rest of the match and night. He sells that his knee is just messed up. It's injured, but he keeps going back and using it, and he just keeps hurting it more. And this is where that polish comes into play just a little bit. Yeah. I was I was going to say that as well. And it's not talking bad about bianca's at all. As you see the difference between a tenure veteran and end someone who still relatively new in the business. She has some some experience behind her. I know that but it's like ouster just. At the home has a different is a different level. Yeah. Well, I was gonna say it's when I watched Bianca tonight. It was very similar to someone else that we had talked about in the past Charlotte. Yeah. When when Charlotte would get it in a match and hurt something she'd sell it for quick second. And then like if she hurt her knee or arm, then she'd do her figure it easy, and you're like oh Kay when Bianca hit a spear with hurt shoulder. She kinda grasp at it real quick while also like running for the pin. Whereas tonight, you had a perfect example of black with his messed up knee hitting that snap suplex. And the first thing he does he puts his leg up in the air because he can't put the weight on it. It's little things like that. That was the difference in show the selling in my opinion. That's the story of this matching general because it's all about now that injury is building up on black hole time. Yeah. So Champa still your champion after all you should mention. Before this matchup velveteen green was shown ringside with two lovely ladies should mention that was not the original plan triple eight who at someone was also supposed to be there. But they were sick. So there's that. So anyway, that's person Kirsten's of never will never know. Never know. He's he's never he's not gonna say. But yet after the Matt by the way, get well soon. Kenny. Anyway, moving on after the match we see Champa posing on the stage with his title and who comes out, but your brand new North American champion, Johnny Gargano and the two exchange a glance, and then they hold their titles up together. So we have a dark DIY reunion out takeover. Kansas kansas. Go get your man, go get your man now, it's not gonna go get him to she's still recovering from ricochet. Okay. Pregnant from brick shimmy about or we all are. It's all his fault. Anyway. Yeah. So this is a nice way to close out the show. But this was an it. Because apparently something happened after the show that did not air on the network little bummed. It didn't air on the network would probably give but it will probably get the footage on them and exte- on NFC. There's a big brawl that took place after the show dream was there ricocheting Alastair came back out. Everyone brawled hunter had breaking up backstage. We'll we'll probably dot com or on TV next week dab pissed if he had to break it up. God them these kids again, I still I still have this idea that they all call him bad when you have boys hunter. Oh, okay. Archea afterwards. Let's be fair. I'm sure that the girls are equally as Rodney. But anyway, continue someone continue. Yes. Someone continue. I'm unit to cough. The Vikings were all the way. Four raiders friends. It was the leading party. It was the wedding party it over to the show. They've been drinking nonstop for a week. They dissolve showed up in their Viking gear. You know, what that makes sense? It's all their regular. They didn't have to go out shopping for anything. They didn't have to hit the local prop shop. This is all their homemade stuff from when they go out on the weekends. It is. If you saw the wedding video on YouTube, you know, so Brent resents. Okay. Starting in last place. And no, I don't mean WTI our fantasy because of what that answer is after tonight going to in three the eight ball. It did not have had one title changing hands in. That was it is it wanted Gargano to win sucking eat traitorous slut coming in tied for third place myself in rock I had ricocheted winning which after that match. I really don't care who won anymore. Everybody one and rock had the girl who is no longer on defeat head going for points. And that means tied for first place tonight with a five zero record. I didn't quite catch. You say that again linzie can't someone else. A little teaching got sick gut first places while there, are you happy. I'm amused. Yes. The official quotas when you access to viking's you use Vikings. Like you do. I mean, that's that. That is accurate. Yeah. Can't argue that war war. I just kinda want them to show up every time with a bunch of Kingsley. They're just kinda needs to happen. Just the whole village comes along for the ride Lindsay. I'm picturing mania right now. Yeah, for they just have the have the ship that they come out would be fine with that. Absolutely. Okay. If they could get away with it dragons. Just just knows not me as we can. We'll take dragons take ice. We just don't think. For two days. What about I know? No, knowing something's we can't deal with no more. No more. No more comes that comes in April that that happens in April. We get Valentine's on before. Then. We'll scary. But anyway, if you wanna see play things with ice zombies. Maybe dragons stick around because I think we're doing new friends after this are we all right? So Francey takeover that does it for us. Unless anyway has any final thoughts. Anybody I said it to someone else. I am stunned at the story that they're telling with Gargano and Champa this has been going on two years. It was two years ago. They lost the tag team titles and started this whole descent the super slow burn on Janis. He'll turn slowly becoming more like Shawa every time they face each other to tonight. Whereas literally literally mean, that's the last of the old Johnny dying when he refused to use the concrete the first time. It's amazing. It's a level of storytelling. I've never imagined WWE would be capable of. And I'm still thoroughly fascinated with where they are going with it while you're at plug your stuff. Oh, sure. Sure. Far less fascinating stuff. You can find me all over the internet. Follow me on Facebook. It is TJ reviews. You want to follow me over on Twitter. It is TJ omega and TJ Omegas also the YouTube channel with a ton of content to watch. And then, of course, there's TD omega dot net for a whole bunch of stuff that you like. Brent final comments and plugs. Well, if you want to reach me you can find me on Twitter at king kittens. 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Black History and the Week in Wrestling 2020

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1:28:41 hr | 7 months ago

Black History and the Week in Wrestling 2020

"Aalto said then your sister could whip me on any street in America. Well let me tell you. Some dusty Rhodes. I've heard a lot about your sister. She's been on a lot of threes so she knows the real well as a matter of fact they used to call Desi Sister Federal Express. Did you know that which you went out on a beige absolutely positively? Had to be there overnight. But I WANNA talk about Jesse's whole family and we'll talk about his old paddy down there in Austin Texas every Saturday night dusty. Rose's father would go into worst low class where next to lose in Austin Texas and there would be fighting. There would be swearing. There would be an drinking and finally be able to drag these mother out of there. But you don't talk about that. He was a successful businessman. As a matter of fact with a plumber he owned a shoe store. Owner Shoe store down here in Austin Texas and he did so good at it but to this day everytime city Austin Texas the black over but let me tell you something dusty roads. Now want you to listen real good. The coronet family has long been regarded. Not only a Louisville Kentucky but all over the country all over the world as fun of family ever in this country. Beautiful Bobby Sweet. Come from money. They come from power for movers and shakers they come. From the upper crust we are not riffraff. Were not redneck. We're not farmers that went up or sounds like you. So don't you ever ever dare make comments about the CORONET family because brother? Let me tell you something. We're going to take that into consideration. Just remember your daddy his whole life and other people and while he was out there let police over every delivery boy out of work boming of Texas new color. Your Mama's bedroom you remember that more. After this time out. Fan The tax cap you'll be to. This is all through the planetary before. Release Scream key. What'S UP EVERYBODY. Bring Tom? Pro Wrestling is at an again Keith. Inc finally getting a record is now but this is a lot to get to stay together. Thank you for being patient with me here. We are lab in your favorites of our podcast. Podcasts it'll be nine years ring town program exactly a fun. Also why are famous shit like land atmosphere? Espn should've called me by now. For the rest of the show I was just saying that a game out of they still do they night restless show I think six eighty two fair at different people. They could call your boy nine to nine games scrapped after. Shivani start working at a. W because he can't be always night but look they could have found another guy to bounce it off of because I'm shooting wanted a name you know what I mean and I could have been other guys. That's all take a platform part time position over there at nine hundred game. I'm just saying he can't data pulled audio data. See like hey man. This guy got tap but or their keach. How's your week? I'm asking like I don't know but hey yes they're put. This is the show. Kisha catch up. But we've seen each other already so of course. Y'All don't know. Our sister had gave birth to our second nephew. So Yeah I was there for. The delivery loses as citing experience Also reminded me of wild and I have a kid team. Nineteen inches fell. He enemies but if he felt adorable. He's adorable Ramadan Hall. They are good. You know he's just getting used to the world on it's amazing and we're excited to see are tomorrow. We'll get down there. Know Me and hang out with again. hopefully this time he might be a little bit more. You know what I mean amenable to company though we saw whiz which I get it but he was only like four hours. So is you just the just the two world so well and he's a lot peaceful multiple at home because they're people picking in private battle every other hour trying to get blood to have they been there. Every light in our did do six pounds. He Ain't got a lot of blood just to be hanging around right right so it was planning to get a home because he didn't and he liked. I'm sticky I'll leave it alone. Thank you so yeah It was it was a very excited and seeing if they look now he's home. He was on that. You know saying that's May do you. Realize that or spreaker. They have a of like the up so we got up now a little in rankings or whatever and I was like why are we so far too. 'cause they added all the commercial podcasts. So the way killer. They got Austin they got talking. Jericho Sean Mooney dig at Rosenberg. Dig AT SP DACIA BY Emory fighting. Should beat here. How the Helms Vickie Guerrero Leslie Hair? We never get back at the top to you right right. Yeah I think I mean do we still have. We still have the top quarter of podcast oversight. But this is kind of weird to see people you know. It's like fuck but neither here nor there right thanks it nine years in the game me And I appreciate like I say that. We stayed afloat that long. That people kept listen to people followed us over various four bats at platforms. I hate a few bless up disabled spreaker. Because it's GonNa cost me a little more but because he wore space at bay with stuff. Good God right. I just wanted. Why don't they have packages you know? Bill Clinton thing I just. I don't understand what they do. And what we have served us will very long time but we keep adding hours of content. So you know so. That's what it is but yeah I mean beat across various platforms. You could kiss on spotify which I always was happy about which. Hey We're through that law spotify approval process there. Surely after we got there was like. Oh yeah now we just take it. Podcast we'll really care. Do they? Bought like anchor so everybody who was all anchor just got automatically adopted nor me. No look like no process go of iheartradio. Took a Stuart Law Tab at the process but you know they let us go to did. Did take a lot of process they just kinda stare stitching. Take US through a lot. A lot of places Apple Anywhere you could get a pack here. She could get us pied bead Player NFL. I liked it. Like I like the fact that you could you to wherever? I don't know how to fix our numbers because I don't know how to report. It goes for all those different places if they sit back to a central place. Or whatever but at St Tab like I appreciate defected like we've got listeners all over the world and we put together that Desha stuck with it at all. Listen to We'll do a lot of interviews. I think we've done four interviews and of course it is like years you know say but most of the crux of the show was just. Us talking so I wear. That JAL are entertained by. We're going to keep more stuff. You'll figure out ways to revamp and get to show like part of it is just us. Get out doing stuff. But coincidentally are real labs of ticket some changes so we start to show we really WANNA do is ship individually out. How bad sale like that? But we can just go to read or wrastling shoals whatever but keeps us out working on a master's degree go be a doctor like it just gets complicated. I got real estate. Add fat the other gear because I lost a GIG. You know stuff got cow. Katy Kishi got like a real job. Job would requires like a real background. Check where he like. They actually verify that you got a degree you know it was things so anyway. Let's get into this show if we don't we'll just be ramble and I gotta get you out of here in two hours. I hope we can do it. Hey I do appreciate dodgers's to elicit as much of a deep do because it's kind of funny people hit tip asked me something about the show like. Oh you listen to that far at least I don't like eight people. Listen deep into the show. Koo Koo because you know people where they downloaded she listened. They might visit here there. They might fast foods sabre daylight out the no. I mean I think y'all be entertained by this stuff so I appreciate it anyway. Inex- takeover Portland a nice pay per view to drop. You know if it'd be wary where we really have a lot going old and I introduced my daughter. Lin so primarily favorite wrestler Keith. Leave and that just thing is she identified all the reasons. Why keithly 'cause I was like I mean. He's very athletic gear bear. She liked. He has your day but he's black hours like yeah. Yeah pretty much. That's that's you you you get over pretty quick with it right yeah. That's that's pretty much pretty much already. If you didn't if I didn't know nothing else about him I was like. Oh Yeah War already. There was like you know. Because that's what got me over that I saw. It feels like amy. This is due to indies. Keith elite are Al Gore Keith. Os Du obvious right. Say More Right. I'll sit. There was nothing else to it. It's funny because his I Love I love his music his poises and this isn't like There's nothing about keep Lita. Don't you tailor? His tagline is basket by glory. Limitless eight aspirational inspirational. I don't know what is But yeah so that that happens but peacefully defeated Dominic Vic and we kind of knew that was gonNA happen like he would go drop dead built quick also think about this show. I looked at it as like the future transition in x t so goes through cycles. I think that we're going to start elevating different people that we're GONNA see how people move on or whatever if they move on because here's a day in exchanged and we'll get down on the fan. Baylor Johnny Gargano match. This is a match up of two former champions. Debt doesn't happen a lot in exte- because there's not a lot of former champions hanging around right so our thought that match was just interested to so presentation presence like ill. Dues are former Champs. And it's like day probably had the most former champs hanging around in a long time because choppers or Matteo. You know what I'm saying. So that's like three in. It's like still pretty president. The card nobody looks to be headed away. Came back so I just think that it's interesting transition to what it used to be like? I say it was two former champs went around it was debate roster after a while. Like do you have your rebates for the championship or whatever it. After that Bill. They would see you for a couple of bucks. Let's say you know you're smackdown or something so just just as interesting to look at Dakota Khadafy Knox Street fight a pretty decent one thing. I liked about takeover right. It was a three hour pay per view. They didn't have a lot of veterans. They had about six batches. They just said look everybody. Just take daytime right yes. I saw the street. Fight is like the shortest batch. It was like thirteen minutes so it was kind of look. Airbus's go out there. Do two things that they do. Y'All have to rush it. Everybody don't have to like really try to get they shit in you know what I mean. Now one criticism. I have to Keith. Lee Match was that I felt like there was too many hotspots. Like and this Kinda happens in exte- matches because a fake people wanna see like the false finishes and stuff like that in a low. The false finishes kind of like some moves. Don't need to be kicked out of love. Yeah they're they're much dominic Lee or like the top rope and did little where he like. You know You know took took him over or whatever off the top rope. That's pretty much it like a this Max's over move if he kicks of something like that. What's great but if he could count for like multiple times a match after a while they had to move. Don't be shit that I don't understand the point of hazards finishing move is gonNA Values them that way. You know what I'm saying it did and I'm not you know. Let Classic Restless Abilities. It was way too much for the first batch of the car right. You do all this shit in the first batch right. You got to leave stuff for later older the car but that's as only criticized but it's so that was that the KOCI defeats dots taken knocks head to head and one thing I will say. Is that the bench. Show a good level brutality. You could tell they had a real issue. Teagan was really tired. Take Nicola out for what she did at our role Whitney did we fears. Happens and Dakota Kite. Weds I think the table spot go the way they really want to go because I think she's supposed to go through the table so I don't off the day they give it to the table good enough because here's the thing so this is what probably happened. What when he set up the table and they give it they. 'cause you gotTa have it where like it can withstand a certain level of weight or whatever people want people. Yada Yada but it still needs to break so we I think people who set two tables because they go to like home depot or just give the table. Did they figure out how to make it work right right? I don't think they factor. Do you like this is a with his badge. So actually you got like two hundred and fifty. How do is about to go through the table? It it be fair but a woman's batch you're talking about somebody like a hundred dirty. Yeah I it has to be rid to where it'll break you know. Winning seem to midday examples matches the table just didn't very you know saying that's because women only like a trumpet so they died. Who did as much. I don't think they think about you know saying like. I don't think they've really take that. This ain't the same type of match but you have to Remember who you deal with. You know so They probably just do this. Hey without there is good by the limit. Significant can reese you know. They're not even at the highest point. You know saying it's bill they like would have to say it like they would be the ladder right coming down twenty feet. You know just to make the same impact you know that it would take the veil wrestlers just to the Google it or something you know. Not So Definitely we have to. They've got to be careful with those things. Especially this is a street fight so you know they able to do whatever at all that like you had to relive it out you know. They're not using chairs longview a lot more to it so you gotta they have to prepare for anything but I I. I did see that I mean all still worked out the got the point across so now. Teagan has another obstacle. I think this is one of those things like this. Backs was one of those building blocks with division right right. Whatever happens you rea- Ripley Bianca. Billionaire that kind of stuff charlotte flare now is one thing but looking at these ladies. Are you know they're building up the bitch? They build it up the car. Now right right so now we could get new blood near the top so we need to see yet and right now. You got some interesting dynamics at play down here. Good job. Johnny Gargano good match very athletic. It kept the fast pace that you expect it for. Both of them fit Wednesday match which I think to with per se. Because here's a tape. Gargano doesn't lose anything by losing the match right. We'll get to later in the show but feared if he would have lost it all right here. He kind of fell off the Bay Roster. Now here it is he lose it. What do I do with him right now? He's he defeated. The top guy. Who you know was Mr Annex T for awhile right like if you WanNa talk about the spirit of it x t Gargano which is coincidentally desk fan was before he left so now you know you got something going here. Rea- Ripley defeated Bianca. Bill Air for the NFC with his title. Expect it but still disappoint you know. Let's night land. Play that role. Black History debated. Do you look at gear in a say black history in the making. I'm like right. Oh sister here. I don't like unapologetic blackness. I like that rooted for blackness. I liked the idea of. I'm black. I'm here enjoy because I think we run from a little bit so power Bryant of ESPN has call who dissidents. He's Ross of essays articles. And where will research thinks he's written about is the Black Athlete. Distance themselves from blackness. Yeah kind of like what? Tiger Woods says it as a just position like Alibaba and Asia like I need to ingratiate myself to people so the best way to do it is to toe down the blackness. So people won't get they could digest be better right And even like. He's talked about writers right like No. I've got a black writer writer and I just want to be. Seen as a writer dislike the blackness of it becomes like a faded. She'll listen and I can tell you. Honestly disclose out be guilty of it at different points in my life right like I'm not just the Black Dude here. I would do like switch on CBS. Accept me as you know what I would ever. There's no reason for me to have to move away from our blackness for that to be a I think that happens a lot in professional wrestling right and they were they step back from it. I appreciate her. Step it into it. Right Abba out you know I think her you know what her Naomi and. Sasha to me They do it the best they they all ever show them. You know saying like if anything they embrace it they alleged elevated first and then never tell you anything it's not about you know. I think some people think that it's about making a statement and Hikari is but it's not necessarily just it is then you know that I'm not GonNa Change. I know who I am and I'm not going to change that because of what I do. You know what I'm saying like Because Bianca could have easily came into INEX- tea and could have just like completely quit but she doesn't you know what I'm saying. Bianca screams like like everything about like. You know what I'm saying. That is not just her character. Persona is her look is her talk. So what if everything she does. Outside the ring is like you don't her in a only as I should do to be. They all have that same essence to and it's not over the top. It don't make them question like is this real you know saying is what I mail out now. I would argue bay that fit the bold as Bush as like only you know what I mean. 'cause Naomi right and it's not a good purpose is more well I might be done purposely but it's kind of like a black black you know what I'm saying right? You go see his hair. You'll see Europe. Say I don't know as much as I get that from. Sasha the way she against our just about yeah but that's not like Sasha's decorates ourself though you know like it might not be there as out. I'm a she might that be out as much as Naomi Bianca but I don't feel like she dissociates himself from either. You know what I'm saying like that that's to me. That's why I include her in that conversation because she doesn't associate she just doesn't she's just not right. It doesn't show as much with her but I don't feel like she. She's not going to pull a tire. Would you know what I'm saying like you know again? Hear right now. Even some of the black male wrestlers you feel are the FE. You know saying them of question. When it comes to the to the to the character the male rotten wrestling. We can have a whole different discussion. Right its debts that becomes more complicated and it does not so unreasonable name names be blackheart right. Be a black America's hard. I don't want to say anybody is bore less or you know be like our guest today because I don't WanNa be unfair to anybody right so but the point is Bianca. Definitely I hope I hope as we transition towards US Ovadia obviously be Charlotte area. Now we get a triple threat. Biago unaware let's get a triple threat. Aba Let's bill beyond Wrestlemainia debt debt. That's what I'm hoping. For named Omar God. I think that that had like I'm telling you ever watch her like when she punches and stuff like that like okay so this is where her addio be backstage segments brawl or something. I was like Oh they can fight for real like yeah like like sweet or so like right so I know that this is an hour right here. I noticed that life here Philby thirty thoughtful. I this is the thing hanging Kabila right. Now is probably the most gifted athlete on the roster right so university of Tennessee Trek Star live four hundred five pounds so as wrestling with people who are like one hundred forty pounds. She is out here. She gets four hundred pounds off the flow right. That's right honestly. If I could find a way I would buy her habit of giving bark. Hillary was like her. I think we've talked about this before. It serves detour. Kathy right and how to use her power and stuff like that and ways to make it work he just a mid tour candidate but I know he played a role and getting her into the W Like I really honestly didn't know that but I can. I could see. I could see how you know what I'm saying like how that end up happening but I didn't so yeah right. That would be perfect. Especially if she goes to ray rosters. That'll be so saying definitely a strength scary like I. I wouldn't fight right. Yeah I wouldn't find it. How tosses walk off the room? Good Aplenty Vladimir. Under three auxiliary cord outs like. Hey that's this day club did well. Why God it? So the way the audio stuff setup it would it hurt okay. Yeah I can hear you so I know they could hear you so cute. Who does baby look like read about this? I I don't I don't I I hate the people obsess over that kind of stuff but I just had to ask because I was just looking like I put. Advocate is looks like so. Yeah so like so musae instantly gives me mom. Cbs right right like every other day. We is it the hospital like she put face town why he came and gave a few looks at. I was like surely right so such as you would. I'm looking at it but I don't think he'd get like Blake Right. You can do what he did and as he grows and whatever you know his face was started shape out but like looking at a lovely lady are features. This is the first time we're not used to write like his moral no. I'm full of all looking lights on our feature. What is this this does not happen? What are we doing and then but I know it were lucky if her baby good fight like yeah like dude. A-man we'd be questioning we'd be like. Yo Abra you should get right. They wouldn't even know his new year. But let's talk about this. Boy Is this The browser weights which I hate as a day. But that's why you don't hate it. I hate that. I don't hate that riddle. I hate to character a bro. I hate that as a character right and I think I made it as a curator because my association with those categories are real life. Nine apposite. Negative right I associate those guys with assholes so it's hard for me to like last. Show get Guy Chance. I we all Internet loves rhythm. Yeah a lot of those guys abusive as like in real life like they are not so but I like merit Ruutel though people to to like real and I just like us right. I can't let it. I know why Kate Lynch old. It's like but I don't know what character you could give him or how you could give it to people be like role but but you know what after watching a little special. They did on them you know. I realized that's him in real life like I didn't really think you know how people they have a character right then you like you know. Well what are they like realize life? You know what I'm saying like that little while like that in real life why he talks like that he the whole shoe thing you know the thing. I like that real by. I mean this man Shoda to Wrestlemainia Foot slops like he just you know like he. He's like that really so different you know what I'm saying is like it's just him being him and it's a little ads. Honestly say a little annoying to talk you know but at the same time at his character though I've always grown only because the first time I saw that I was like. Where's the shoes like? I literally was asked I. Why is he barefoot? You know what I'm saying like I I just I just couldn't get over. They say like Ima may fighting. Of course yeah. It makes sense but you know him being wrestling. I'm like obsolete fighters and a real life news. Where shoes right like I like. Where is he don't win and realize you don't he do he? Didn't out here in flip flops in late night like I don't even think he owns like a real pair of shoes. You know what I'm saying like I just don't think he has like sneakers or something like that you know. So it's like okay. But now like he is like no socks. No shoes you know. For the most part he might put some socks Abdul Net but other than that now it says listen the AAA shock about why you know. I weirded out by it. I you know now just kind of used to it. You Know He. He encourages it because he pays him too. But it's like it's like do you know shoots a huge You jump on you jumping rope so you know you doing all this stuff that'll hurt. You hurt my feet i. It hurts not be delusional. That okay you know users I when you look at it like you know like oh right but the contrast this why. I'll kind of skeptical of him. Pete done being pack team because of the discipline and character like they're like night and day you know saying yes. I think that works in context of tag teams right. I think that tag teams need some kind of element. So if I'm putting together attacking I need to do to. May Not be brothers book. Got The appear so they almost like process right or any two contrasting styles that can make work right. What guys by power gap will guys by speed Right but if two opposites on a to polar opposites I need to Art Cup. Yes that is a reference that if you are under the age of forty you may get but our honestly if you under like sixty out though. How many people caught the company? But I was saying dance. That's what an old show like. Oh you like odd couple okay. The circled on Iraq. People like what you're talking about. Yeah like out on areas of drive away. A shot to be absolute greeting. 'cause that's how by how would you buy? Or you know what the Beverly Hillbillies is like. Hey also good overdose over actually crazy. I watched pilot a season. A half beverly hillbillies crew just board. That really also may or may not have watched a season half Gilligan's Eilly on that same day. Oh so half hour shows the only like twenty five minutes. Will you watch without commercials and stuff? So you just be sitting around. They don't tend shows deep of right. I so Gilligan's island has a special place with me because I spent like half a semester. Watch a Gilligan's island in class call. Tv Don't judge be. I played football. Say you had a class called. He he yes. That is actually gasol shop. Y'All sociology credit for You more oh you watch different television shows you wrote about eight wrote about up against the time of day air impact to racial undertones. Seborga Shit right like that and it wasn't a city called TV is it was something else But I remember. Tv's title but yeah I mean Gilligan's our was. What would a big part of course lot of the breakout entire show for you? A crazy thing was. The first season was had visitors there. How the so? By show up over our and they. Y'All can get out of here. Everybody was supposed to come back. You know by advocate right address added code fees Tabassum Chaplain Retains the title so the undisputed era did lose all the Gold Day? Just lost both pseudo. 'cause Rodney had already lost its ago right right because if cold lost that district the whole thing but could not move and because of what happened later old batch where chop ahead this the baby almost tear up. Gargano right right away. They will be tied at the hip ever burpee. And right this is GonNa be hit. Fail IS IS THIS GUY. Be who whom does what right right but but you know what's funny is. He had on a DIY shirt here on a diy shirt when he came down like. Oh my God. What was you looking for is all? He's got a he's he's he's help right because you got to write this guy fighting against for the people basically you know what I'm saying. So it's like all right this guy he he got back up he got back up. He good it. It never worst with those guys now. So not even a little bit. Yeah so like. They'RE GONNA BE SAN JOSE. Kevin Owens for folk. I guess newer people right so with that are they decifit NFC takeover. I was GONNA roll to raw will pick up. We'll take a break. It will news and that kind of stuff that we like roller to log. So rods could be a quick overview starts off a radio or a about Hari back covered out of neckbrace. Go ahead. Well I thought it was gonNA make a save but we just saw ready beatable bit hardy. Sabur right right Yep I thought it was kind of pointless and I thought it was law. Yeah ridiculous I liked it when Matt came into the rain in Randy has little spiel and he left right right right and he stood at the top of the ramp. If he would've left. I thought that would have been more impactful now. They decided to go with. Hey Brady go back down. It'll be two degrees and Siri in theory that she got ready. Orton a lot of heat. Right right right but theory is theory. Is that real end up happening? It was people. Just watch it with like doing here smacking with a Cherokee Comeback Board chair. I don't know if this is how this is supposed to go. Like this does do though he right it. It just looks it. Is You know what I'm saying like it. Just it's not even like the good he'll mood you know to me. There's just certain things it's just not a good deal. I mean he's already in a neck brace and then you beat up on you know saying abominable male I you really gonNA. It just doesn't doesn't resonate to me like I don't. I don't understand the point and I think that happens a lot with that situation. In general you know what I'm saying like somebody has crutches that have a neck brace on you know you obviously see their injured and you decide that you're going to be up on them anyway. You know it doesn't make sense. It's like you're better off walking away. You know acting launch you go to do something but not necessarily doing that was gonna be looks better. It is better than you just deciding to. Then you decided that you're going to beat up on them like what's the point you know saying like the crowd like this ages we all right. Are you serious just not? And then the goal is far is one thing to attack him in the ring within the goal is far as the Grad chairs out. And all that kind of stuff. You don't know it's just down. Just turning into tally but you do. Yeah now. It's just. It's not easy on the eyes but I don't WanNa see this. I I just thought it was throwing out for no reason but like you already beat him up last week enough to get it off TV so I don't know but you know neither here nor there Eric Rowe in Charlotte flare addresses. Rea- Ripley it. What I thought was really pro and whole man. I started this shit. My crew is we'll start this INEX- t the. Y'All grateful you've got the nerve trying to challenge me Akhavan with that. Yeah drew back entire defeated. Vp will turn out to be a pretty good batch a every also say new symbol. One guy is producer now. Debbie hired him as a bad stays producing. Okay yeah so kinda crazy so the guy this is supposed to be his retirement year right and he will retire from every virk again. Andy dates that I gotta do Yada Yada Yada and I'm just going you know. Just go around have fun and Park Knowledge on the younger generation. You know what I'm saying then all of a sudden this show up at a wwe which nobody had thought because he's worked with Bill W and stuff like there and everything no he does royal rumble any like. Yo he stay on for a few months. No do a short road. I was like Oh my may go get a bag before he retired right right so real bread next day you know. He hired as a backstage producing repeat. You know to bring it right now. You really got a nice stable retirement job. They'll be congratulations. Vp SHEENA Baker for US becky Lynch Koa Risk Raleigh Sermon Ricochet Defeats Carl Edison Rich. They got a record. So Wayans before Thursday because go to Saudi Arabia Hey brought they'll be at Rawal right quite as Kit. Twenty twenty right brought his only missed like two or three rawls. Doc Dude is not the ables everything. I did not really a part time right now. Going off your I mean. Maybe he doesn't have anything else going on so there. He didn't have much going before a liberty injury. Like let me show what is showing and IAGO. Maybe the most buddy but show up when I show. Hey academic that so Kale in Viking Raiders Defeat Murphy AO P via disqualification because Russia's cubs as running and looks bad until the street prophets. Show up right away to save and so now they're part of this because you know joe is out. Joe Scott injured right. He'll be out for a while so they I guess they did. This could be just lopsided so I guess they decided. Hey let's just go ahead and to give it to three profits. I know people. They've done the House Frey. Prophets so Yeah I agree. So so we wanted to break. It will be big prediction or deontay wilder attacks. A fury. Ooh I right. 'cause the matches self hasn't happened yet. The fight itself has it happened but they are. There is going down tonight. So why not the lead to break? It will be bad. The audience chanting new day sucks. What's your reaction that how's that been affecting you hurts Rene Rene? It's it's disappointing but we promise you will not find disappointment in our dancing. You won't find it in our accenting and you definitely won't find it in our see when we we snap. That's right rene. Yesterday I was at the airport. Something came up to me and said Mr. That new thing is terrible but my brothers big fan and can you sign this breakfast menu for him and I replied. Of course I can and you know why I'm able to because kick that kid to the curb up and now everybody we are back. Just here has a fun. Let's Talk Wrestling New Twenty Twenty Hall of Fame Class. Right we will be abducting the Bellas. Mickey embry will be Twenty Twenty Class Hall of fame which I don't have a problem. I think is fair. let's see twenty twenty. Let's see what the class looks like? Now baby bump. Yeah 'cause they got pretty at the same day attack so right now is that it. W O which is a little and the way to do it. W. Is GonNa be hosted DANCEHALL EXPERT. Rangeland is as w right which really Hogan Hall the Dash. If you just do that right ex- a kind of go in there and it's kind of like AAA child. Michael's are by friends. So yeah that would be so really. He should be. Food is not so long. He's a to Tab Hall of Famer now air because he waited with DX last year and right and don't shake spot like like hateful ex park but favor and that'll individual bear just like he was a part of these groups also. We adopted it w it will go that far. Amy and we will just do the whole the reason that the Yokozuna like seventy seventies get into the hall of fame so I get. I'll give you an example the rock and Roll Hall of fame when it's a tasteless get here. Only six till tastes has got to the hall of fame right right to do the hit areas so as Dave Ruffy Paul Williams. Eddie Kendricks Otis. Bill did a settlers right for David. During that era. What he'll fire at the tablet Dutcher ceremony? I would say four of the do what needed the group at the time right so Paul had passed. David David does it. Eddie was off old. There was a temptations revue Belvedere and oldest was all it was actual group but they are like full of the do two or three other. Dudes group like glittered aided Iraq Roll Hall of Fame Ali wooded Iraq Roll Hall of fame like all other eighty-eight tip tastes aided Iraq Hall of fame right. So 'cause you sister logging solely because I make jokes about this. I'm like I think I was at the tip from Lake died. Seven to because dealer by keep by B- Taser Otis just was like she added. If I lose the league I just get another one right. He really did some guys in that CARE so get hit. Some guys just kind of rolled around. Yeah right it was just kind of went up things anyway so it w Batista's going here but Tcu go via by fit Finlay. That's interesting orienting. How did that happen? I don't know it w is going here. I would have Eric Bischoff duty deduction yeah Dickie bree I have to tell you because her best is like she had been around like she's she I feel like she's the elder stateswoman odor roster for the witness division. Like he's the word that's like when I think about that division. I think about her right like I think like she's the best representative of that division. So I'll go with dead. Vader would not be going into the holiday for twenty twenty Mick Foley has been trying to push. This doesn't look like they're going to do vader should really tabernacle right. Fortunately Leon passed away in twenty eighteen but and Acetate to like it these guys before they dad. Oh they figured about twenty twenty Davey Boy Bordia so that would be the thing right now is they're trying to push put Davey boy here But asks for Hall of Fame The big news. This week that came out was that the Debbie's talk cicilline they pay per view streaming rights. At least that's the Word Street so potential bidders are espn at Amazon and the idea. Is that Amazon? Might try to make the play by the whole company right. Oh Shit I mean this. Is The drop a bucket? Three billion? It'll be right right today there but also talks with. Espn two they. They the stream of rice with a paper views. The W network Canada goes down in value to be because were the big things is that you had to pay per view. Now I still like it without the pay per view and I still because I like have access to all the power to even though there's a lot of car to other ways right because the Internet is so vast and me right. 'cause honestly they changed their pay per view for bad bad about paying fifty dollars to watch preview. Sorry so his day to pay US fifty dollars but the thing is that. You can't devalue something. They expect people to come back and start to pay for it at the higher value later. Right right actually. So this happens with buffalo wild wings route Tamiko. They decided that they was doing the right. Free Week Tuesdays by will get word or what? What do you buy off next thing? You know they stopped doing it. People stop coming. You know what I mean right amy. I'll be getting this. I want to begin graphite. Just say people in that way. People are conditioned gifts up certain phrases certain way idiot all of a sudden. Yada do it more so now. I gotTa Start Pay. It'll be a you know a exactly at the peak of your product. Hypothetically right let's say this was the attitude era out right and it's all about so fire right back with you fooling like three hundred thousand you say okay. Cool people would have K- back and still probably bought the pay per view so they were to see a data to see what Austin go right. This is kind of a lull right now so all this older strength of the business that they got right now. It's kind of like I don't know how motivated people are to call for Buddy for the watch that much now. Think extreme so put an outlook. How just Yeah Donald. That had like twenty pages of you a year. Like you reduce right. So he doesn't devalue the product also right so if you got all these special so what about also quite as Kip is twenty twenty right. Quiche added by paper views before the network right. Allie was able hill people. You streep had their pay per views. When I I used to be at work Washington Street. I say that I'm an now. Oh technology is only getting better right right. People are getting paid for us. So what you think is GonNa Happen. Y'All just go to work in their thinking about it. This is how they look at it. As a company they'll sell distribute rights and fuck profitable after that right. They just need so body who spit it buddy to a week. Daddy's right so they'll sat a deal for Harra billions of dollars or even close to a bill. You know whatever they get up for for the next three so if they say like hey for five hundred dollars for the next five years. Y'All go. John. Old distributed desk cash debate for you. They don't care how those days before if the company don't Redo the contract cool they got the bread Delfi. Got The dixie right because there's a date. Their stock price has dropped drastically part of it. Was they fired too? Big Tags exit the market panicked. And it's just I don't know man did not bill for this wrestling. Problems should be a publicly traded product. And I'll go to that later but out of you know as peaky was great but now like Speaking of the pay per view while we hear Kisha. Wwe superstar Tyson Fury. We'll actually a first boxer. Who just happens to be part of me is face it yet wilder of their second fight tonight who you get the APP pay. The answer wilder is shit out here. Okay not even finished they hear and act like he's not like I watch. Let me tell you something okay. 'cause I did some background research. Whatever and I watched like video lose some of his knockouts. Whatever you know seven is the truth okay like I just you know if I had no question in my mind that he's GonNa it is this is about tonight. I guess Stephie got only if you want to go into specifics. Nala need Mr Wilder that this. I'm just waiting on the on the the inflight footage that's all right. Somebody goes leak it out. They always know Abo. Mike Tyson is on. Yeah no off restrained with viney hours like oh That dude is brave because he stadium while he likes doing demonstrating or whatever. He's writing around limit. I'm like Hey Do really hits us over. Aaliyah no Kazoo. Thanks is flying fast. I'm like eighty catch you by accident where he like eating. Disclose your face. I try to wake up though here. You know what I'm saying. That's like that's the worst feeling to have like. I wake up. I didn't Leitao right right. Y'All somewhere you don't like Oh this is going to be like wake up here. No right just like read we wake up outta would it be like Gre- talking about how like it here? Wiser right was youtube zippy way. Try to ask but just looking at like touching an old. They'll just watch the Olympics. Lewis look almost crazy. Don't reads like a ball here so it's not like some are big. Dome Right. They got these legends. I guess here we got there to Holyfield here. I'm like daddy was forty four team case partly because he held all but he had a lot of fights at it is. Yeah all right. So where is it? War quick overview recap. I start with aid data. My over it exte- alcohol because it about thirteen minutes. This fight about start so going to wash my which I know I'm old keys. Kaz defected looking at pay per views for boxing and stuff like that because the main fight on the car. Don't start until like late Tuesday. I've always car fight. And I'm like right abby. I don't want to stay up for our after eleven thirty. I'm GonNa tell you you always has came in his room. It is office. Ill like Yo. I will work out a script or I'm GonNa work out pretty quick like my wife has sent us a bid. Tab for like ten thirty. Oh like like right. Now she takes triple like Disney is staying up late. Aghia this low forty five like what is wrong with him and I think you would. Israel would be like what I B twelve thirty up like I do was bad that you the warriors playing the cavs. Games is going to games to overtime. I look. I'm a write a letter or something to the Brian Steph. Yawkey just keep going overtime. All Willy. Nilly some of us. Can I stay up? Y'All recently gave it back. Yard started game at nine o'clock that was being a deficit to begin with. I could give you a solid nandonet thirty vague after that. I don't know sorry it just ages doesn't it to shoot distance. Say That we have the Houghton Coun- I'm good. Look I said you texted tiffin. T angry about seventy. I'll probably go see some of it. Is Abby out of our way like what? Oh Yeah respond to you about two thirty in the morning. Because I just woke up I saw I saw you takes. I know that video beside where he was on the train and he fell asleep and he just hit the train. But so you still ride the train but sleep that does quiche. I felt that Airbus. Oh to stay like I felt so deeper by so like I just okay. It's funny because I used to. I used to laugh about. You know it'd be a great house or something like that like you'd be a conversation like she just stopped talking to you. Look back heated. Cheer but she just dropped off right. Yeah yeah he knocked out. So I'll be with daddy and a kid. We'd be done like in the basement of soap watching TV. Watch the game state you. Don't you look around like Oh al. Both of these users trap got nowhere right and it was funny. I think in the early like like is it teenage years somewhere to be twenty S. I started doing it to so like yeah I just be sitting at the House and is is in the colby laughing because she like you fall asleep anywhere. I fell asleep. We was like a game of some and it was drizzling. Like it's a rain a little bit a anyway. I just I was sitting here next thing you know. I woke up like third quarter. I don't know win is happening like I like I into I know that. Like oh worried about the Faucet Darby I just drop off and I if if I'll sit down a got I got to be comfortable. That's a saline. Because that's what they woke like some real bad pain. 'cause you're supposed to sleep like what you just? Kinda roll over to the side. You know what I'm saying but right you by drought. We use it to Gospel concert at appraiser Park. I doubt it off appraiser the park. Little Bit of rain came down to time. But this is a little bit like little drizzle told out dislike like you would think I had drugs up something. No just say no alcohol. No drugs no bit obvious like do go down go out so I was like. Oh I felt that my so 'cause Y'all evil family just let China. Oh well wait a minute now. You gotta be out. 'cause Y'all like to record folks who obviously just kind of hereditary condition that we are battling it dealing with a jaw lights in colour people so hey earning too because hugh kind is it. What it if you go to see. It's funny because you know is is understandable. Would because you know dad but no because I wanted his children so at now I do it to trust and believe value comfortable with the temperatures right. You Know Act now just about twenty that temperature and comfortable go back. A certain age is this. Is that go better brady like you just you? Just you just go out like Ola. You just like Oh all right. I know that like why drive everywhere because I be a passenger on pasture like why go say. Here's like they don't have me as Panja. Respect me to talk to you As as we get about fifteen minutes out like a baby like your your key there boy these asleep. Let me draft barral. You drive me around the block you so much about not like a baby you put the car just dropped around cable. You are terrible. Anyway though. Like whole passages. If you don't have to put in you don't want to be independent in the front is now because let me tell you. I'm not GonNa do this and I'll be there probably nine now angle retain kind of attention. I don't tell them I try to give that up but now I'm better off with drivers the way at least I have to be attentive. And all that if not boy is is by those contracts these doggone our end. I've been gone for Thirty Min already been out there minutes. You could we get it but is this you know now so Turkey. The wonder like tired. You are right Yeah keep it back to this Rasa can get Outta here. So W data might young books win the TAG team Battle Royal. They will face the tag team champs at revolution. I like this better royal too. Because it's like y'all T- if you're not gonNA get tossed over you not done. It was the last person to stand at. At I thought that was interesting is Catholic. Oh shoot mobile got kicked out so I gotta go home now. I can still hold it down for the rest of the tea. Do you know it. S like hey man make you feel different. Do your copy. Somebody ELSE'S FORMAT. Chris staedtler defeated Seda. Brit Baker was. Oh commentary I guess it's banks was to help like I think a retooling of women's division to try to figure it out especially says Brady group that broke up. You know what I mean. I think they're just trying to figure out who what Nick's dialer roles. Kebe could talk to after the bench She was just kind of talk us back. She got confronted by Chris. That left her at a big small so I mean like I said just trying to figure out how to manage that division I guess Moxley Jeff Cop match Enzi chaos. I don't know if Jeff carbs officially side eight w because they got listed as a higher good for Jericho's does group and I know his contract is over with our weight. Should you know he probably? He might just be awesome date right now. Officially says so. I Dunno Kitty Omega. Hey Page defeated deluce brothers. Hey we're looking to do even though I think his drunken give it because a little a Kiddie Baker. I just don't seem like it. Translate it will after right. This is a little more often the doctor so well he was facing counter he looked like where the biggest stars at world right they because he had a hell of a dance partner a beat Okada's consistently bid with the best wrestlers in the world. But now I mean I guess I don't know if his presentation or what what does it. But it's kind of like I guess you know what I'm saying. Cody Rhodes defeated wardlow in a steelcase batch for the right to face J. F. This match here everything. J. F. Doing everything he can do to try to help his bay and web cody situation. That seemed cutters. So bobble against a larger opponent. A dangerous batch He is in his home town. His wife is it her whole town. You know. Be like everybody's here. Addison alleged you'd like it had all the things that you need it brady. Stop J. F. Feared ARE SAVING. Brady from J. F. Cody get busted open. I mean it was a good thing a storyteller and also the whole thing of going after like his head so he had to take the whippings here to do this. He had to do that. He had to beat this monster in a steel cage. So finally through all the doubt. He gets his get his backs to be able to get his what all what has J. F. Class to class classic roles stores. Jfk AIRBNB. Like he'll go he'll stay up he he's a he'll twenty seven he don't want your relation he ain't trying to be the cool he'll either to be the asshole twenty four seven. Am I appreciate it? You know I do. Because that's one of the problems is hard to keep heels. A baby faces a wrestler because a lot of dudes are heels. Editor tried to be cool when they will. They want a bunch of twitter followers. They would a bunch of phase they will people so they will be hauled in that say that worked for them partially. Because the piddle. Who says you won't they may not be considered heels right like they were trying to take over a company so like the WWF guy thought that they was invading. You took the side of the invaders. Say so they were heels to some people that baby faces the others. But like you can't read duplicate everything so out. Just what about Velvety DRI interested in studio era the Piss George Devlin Defeats Leo Rush for the cruiserweight title Chapel Addresses Gargano Auto in Austin theory because the casualty Brazil vets where they batching actual. You'll be interested tag team for the Broza weights Defeat or relocated Daddy Birch. If not why not trying to go down to Ladd here also trying to figure out? Fury is the lineal heavyweight. Champion beads keithly defeats Colder Bianca. Bel Air Calls Off Charlotte flare so hope like said lease to triple threat bitch. 'cause I definitely should happen. Velvety defeats extract. Roger Strong is retired but it is attacked by a dispute era. Hopefully long range deslys to tweet hip Adam Cole. Ticket title go with a Quiche. Anything else. She was in or now now. I'm good I I think that's the we don't cover it everything. I am. Good this hour and a half a toll jogging. Shah here to oust. That'd be if you are watching the fight joy to fight. I'll take your wilder. I don't know if he goes out due it. In twelve rounds. I just don't see a good fight. Let's go data right back. Live taste is wwe. I would not about to read it. Jump on top wrote disgrace that wow is real. Yeah we are out. You'll have a good week. We Bang later.

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You Wish - The Spanish Announce Table - Episode 240

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You Wish - The Spanish Announce Table - Episode 240

"At Farmers Insurance we know every windshield collision has a unique sound beetle bird boop drone seen it covered it click for more underwritten by farmers truck fire insurance exchange and affiliates products unavailable in every state this Spanish announce table Tom Yeah what's up man. Do the holidays are what's up. How's how's that before? We get into everything for the week. This is a professional wrestling podcast podcast pair of the Spanish announce table but we are the stars of that. Show people want to know what's up with that so how I'm good holiday depression settling in or anything. No actually you know what this year more so than any other year I planned out my P._T._o.. Accordingly so <hes> we are recording on a Wednesday night December nineteenth two thousand eighteen year of the new idea and I actually have Thursday and Friday off and then Monday and Tuesday is Christmas Eve and Christmas so I have Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday Tuesday off so plant pretty good and then the rest of the company because we are small startup startup they have the rest of the Christmas week off so I'm working <hes> Wednesday through Friday which is fine but typically our clients also take that time off so essentially I'm saving P._T._o.. And and not really doing anything and so that except whatever the company needs we'll yeah well. There's some fires that need to be put out this week but guess what I'm off the clock not my problem. I'm not the firemen on-duty duties so Volchkov so I have a similar situation with the holidays off well so I started a new job my second week of that <hes> so I don't have any like P._T._o.. Yeah because it gets on the first year well <hes> just happens happens. They're like hey by the way you know like Monday's Christmas Eve Tuesday's Christmas <hes> Monday as New Year's Eve <hes> Tuesday's New Year's <hes> you get all of those off paid so I get a four day weekend then I worked three days so then I get a four day weekend then it come back four day week. This is the best job ever yeah that is and what works for my P._T._o.. Going back to how I planned it out is last week. I had two days off so I wouldn't work three days so I've only been working three days a week last three weeks about that and that's all you normally work anyway if you add it up you know what I mean. You're real actual work way less than that adding yeah time. I've probably a year in the fifty. Two weeks probably worked a solid twelve weeks yeah. I'm glad I don't like employees. You know for the thing though I do my work efficiently so I don't take a lot of time to get my work done so where they're not brag but where someone would take. Let's say three hours to finish task. It takes me about thirty to forty five minutes so the rest of that time in I know this the only reward for getting your work done is more work so I don't tell people when I get my work done so then I spend the rest of that time where I should be working listening to podcasts <hes> you know having fun. Have you been reading my diary top. Why is that because it sounds like everything? This is how I get by. This is why secret I thought yeah now you're you're cafe. Tom Like you're letting everybody know Tom. That's that's the thing and that is the thing just remember well. We're GONNA have to make this up paid episode. The only reward for Getting York done is more work so don't get you work done unless they say you need to get your work done unless it's guaranteed that you're more work comes with more money than there's a decision you can make their right then you can on the more work but typically enough yeah typically. It seems to not everywhere that I've been employed so also back to the holidays though got everything planned out I think lock is you know everything's bought everything's bought and good the one gift that I have for. Emily is something that she needs to pick the day in time for you're so it is but but it has not been executed in the sense that I got her some gag gifts for her to what and then I'll tell her you know this is what the real gift is and then she has to pick the day in time for when that happens <hes> <hes> but that is paid for so as far as gifts all done all done. My wife was all done <hes>. I finished <hes> over this weekend. She was gone on a Herbert. There was a few weeks ago and her friends were a busy then her. You Know Circle of lifelong sister friends and then they went away did like girls weekend <hes> out and about and had fun and so I took that time to go finish my Christmas shopping obviously right well. <hes> my wife had been done right. Everything was wrapped and then one day we were arguing about something. I forget you know kind of what we are you in about at the moment <hes> but it was getting a little elevated right. We are going to end something and she goes over and she starts unwrapping these Christmas presents and and I was like what are you doing and she was like like I've taken these back and I was like really like are you really like getting like really and she was like no what they are as they were like slacks and button up dress shirts that I no longer need like I need those for my previous job and I was just saying like I need a whole oh bunch more <hes> because I'd lost weight so and so she had bought a bunch for Christmas and <hes> and I don't need those remarks I wear jeans and like Polos now so she had meant to do that anyway right. She was just kind of like on autopilot ignoring annoying me when we argue like that's what I mean what probably and so go figure <hes>. It sounds like somebody speaking from experience well so so yeah I was dealing with that and then so I'm sitting there going like really we're having remember this year like take Christmas breath vows like are you really being opinion. She was like no dumb ass. This isn't like really about you like this is so yeah so she's got to go okay. <hes> I went out and did it while she was gone. I took that opportunity any right while she was out on her <hes> thing to go pick up her thing and to allow the kids to pick up Christmas presents right they. There's no they would rather. I just picked him up some and be like yeah. This is from you. Yup Sign Gone Back Fortnight so did all that. I got a couple of things I'd like to pick up because you know what I mean like you always think oh I should <hes> you know what I also while she was gone on took the opportunity the two completely clean organize our basement down here and it was an walkable that it was like become the the storage place where you just start throwing every box and everything that you have you know unfinished basement and that talked me a good. I'd say solid five hours like you know packing whatever needed to go in a box like breaking down boxes taking it to the curb right while the curbs of course you know it's a it's a car drive away so it's not so yeah I mean that's the whole week in down there like because I we have an exterior you're part of the garage where some of the stuff should have been stored until we were ready to go through and determine what to do with it and that kind of stuff and and then everything we'd bought for Christmas in the House here and since then and every like flooring box was down there just kinda thrown down there. You know <hes> Tom you know that middle aged male life there tommy thing of that that sucks so what else that's working. I just workman wife was GONNA we can clean in the basement at Christmas shopping second week John Second Week on the job. We're still enthusiastic. Yes hundred percent yeah like we should see when the when the other shoe drops someone in this <hes> flash forward to March he's like yeah right right yeah yeah so that's it man and then you live a boring life so right so oh. There's no training pretty good. Then has been good. I I haven't Rodeo clown college but that for Rodeo clowns college your training cousin that got a full scholarship to Texas A._M.. For Bull Riding the ice that's an intense thing to do man that was a really intensive. It might be friends die from it. It might be up there with like one of those like yeah as as like dangerous thing that you could knowingly willingly do as pro wrestling like you're going to get her doing this like it's not a you might you're gonNA get hurt at some point doing this. I had a friend <hes> his name was Daniel and he came down to Orangeburg. When I was in college we had drinks and it was a group of us? It was just me and him. I wasn't necessarily that close with his new and things like that but <hes> next day at a little. I don't know what they call them competition or exhibition. Whatever a Rodeo that's what it is yeah I don't know and the bull fucking kicked him in the chest and killed him next day? Yeah it's real I mean I I like the <hes>. What was the <hes> what was what they call? The sex move that was the Rodeo is like <hes> when you're in Doggystyle in group with your arm and you tell her sister was tighter right and try to stay on for eight seconds the Rodeo. It's great you never heard of that. Come on that's old hat those the Rodeo. That's right tonight tonight tonight. Whisper it softly ear and try to hang on the trick. Is your balance. It's you know I mean you're going to have the storm for anybody watching on Youtube. If we pose us when you you'll see my arm ocean it's effective right that's saying I I was training with the cross fit and they may been doing <hes> starting to gear up and get into like so the first you know get the rust off. Gets you know a lot of rusts back but now I'm getting into where it's like. Okay now. We're getting into the the meat and cheese of this training so kicking into high gear. Then is the meat today's Today's workout a hundred and fifty dumbbell snatches so you just take the damn dumbbell and you throw it over your head and then you switch hands and you throw it over your head hundred and fifty as quick as you can way dumbbell thirty five how eight and you do it you you so you take it and like almost do like a dead lift right okay from the ground you bring it to your hip and then you switch it a dumbbell right so one right you're thinking of a bar but right now and then you bring your I was thinking to hold two of them but you're right just one and bring it to your hip and then you switch over your wrist punch through yeah and then you come back down right and then you switch hundred and fifty so you're so you're not the term terms snatch implies that it's in the air and you're grabbing it but that's not what you're affecting these. Here's the thing I like cross fit. I've been doing it for a couple of years. The first time around I lost a ton of weight and I felt very still feel great doing it. This time I I will tell you this full disclosure. I don't know what any of the fucking names mean. I don't know any of Chipper Mood Murph all that Shit I just go like just tell me what I'm doing. That's something that turns me off from that whole genre of stuff because because of that I call that the like <hes> it's a it's a the smell neuro farts too much over there right like get over it and it's called whatever it's fucking clinical term is like I much. I take it a lot more seriously if you tell me it's fucking jumping jacker wh- even that sounds kind of fun. You know what I mean you. Tell me this goddamn crunch right like I get that right. You told me it's a setup I get that you don't have to push up. I get that right an arm curl a leg ben like these things make sense to me right now if you tell me when they're when they've got their you know routines get some of that. I guess right you have a name forever designed the routine. I don't invest in so when people are like Oh have you ever doing you know Jackie's workout and like no oh maybe I have but I don't know what fuck you're talking about well. That's right so okay so I get it right like even if I'm in cross fit right. Let's say I'm doing that. I don't ever envisioned myself being that person right because when they're gonNA come Joe. Did you do the the Diane Johnson Right. That's where you do and 'cause they always have to tell you right like okay so just start telling me what you had to do for your workout because that's where this is going anyway right and it's always something intense right. I'm never going to be like Oh. That's you know what I mean. That's wildly different than the other fifty Burgis in the hundred thousand squats. Whatever like it's all really intense shit? That hurts your body. I get it right like I it's. It's it's no different to me what you did versus what Tom did. Versus what this guy did because it all sounds like it kicks the Shit Attia and you get in shape right like great great story like okay. Let's doing yeah all right so yes train about the ranting on Crossville. Let's get into some news. Talk Talk a little W._W._e.. Wrestling News that's an interesting topics lined up here. I like this well into the first one all right so for fans of outside of the www there is the rubber band club the bullet club the elite whatever you're calling them now yeah and they have a youtube series called being the elite and the newest episode will be covering the farewell I guess tour or farewell event of cody the Young Bucks and hangman page leaving ring of honor the Swan Song Narratives so what do you think about that so hangman page cody and the young bucks so yeah to two schools of thought one is well they're going to W._B.. To in the more interesting one and the one that I like to get a little jazzed up about is this whole Jacksonville Jaguars owners going to start a pro wrestling promotion. Jim Ross's involved solved and these four gentlemen are involved grading. What's your gut say? What's your gut say? February one was just assumed that's the next time we see them. You know what I mean. What are they doing? I think both both options could be in would be amazing and I'm GonNa say gotTa Hope Jim Roses and involve. I just think he's going to be involved from like talent. Relations not like the play by play guy. Hey look what he did when he was a W._w.. That's you know <hes> more likely that this Jacksonville Jaguars things is a thing you know the owner of that starting. This new company with these guys is a thing right. That's what sounded the most plausible to me until right now as I sit here you're thinking about it wouldn't put it passed me for these guys to pull off what they consider. The ultimate troll and ultimate swerve right and to put all of this out there so when they show up on W._W._e.. Holy Shit right like Oh. Oh my God right. They make phone calls. They get some people to go. Yeah leaks shit to the news fairly easy to accomplish and W._W._e.. Right now is in a supposed- which will cover more later of haywar changing. This is new stuff. You'RE GONNA see new stars. It's going to be surprised we'll get into whether or not we think that's valid or not but who knows the Morrison here thinking about that right. Now I go well shit man. I you know I mean I could legitimately see that also so I really kinda right now on the fence. If you ask me this hour go and not kind of brought up even the thought of deb W would have thought yeah this is. They're going to do this thing now and here we go and I kind of still hope that kind of happens to because you can always do the W._B._Z.. Thing right like you can kind of the W._b.. Thing yeah I I think I think we'll we will see them doing something with either the Jacksonville Jaguars owner or someone like that but I don't think it's going to be the traditional hey impact wrestling is starting up or T._N._A.. As it was I think we're GonNa seems maybe something more along the lines of like how the N._W._e._a.. Title just shows up at these random events or global global. What was what was here's thing called Jif W we'll be forced wrestling global force wrestling right right so more like a bunch of all in events and then sprinkling around of the other high profile independence and China just kind of I'd like Kinda fluff the scene as it were exactly capitalize off of that? I think we're gonNA see something more along those long lines I my gut tells me even though I would not be shocked but my gut tells me in two thousand nineteen after after the success in two thousand eighteen of all in and how much they wanted to pat themselves on the back and deservingly so I feel like they're not gonna go like well. Let's just lay it up and get go into W._B.. I think they have this ego drive. If this determination to say we can do all into now fast forward and if all in two cells one hundred tickets and four people watch whether let's go lay up and go back to W._B._Z. or you know in the case of cody but the others will go to W._b.. Maybe but I think I think how successful all in was I think their egos going to say we can actually do this. We make it work. What if W._W._e.'s pulling the strings the whole time behind here and they Jason Hawes J. saw the you know what I mean the greatness of maybe they help fund some of it? Maybe now they're trying to enhance some of that also and the Jacksonville Jaguars is helping them get <hes> helping them get trademarks without having to do it right under the nose of all the media. You know what I mean. You know there could be that too but that sounds like a lot of conspiracy theory kind of shift so I don't know yeah I think more of a special events for two thousand eighteen brought to you by all in which are these four four guys. We'll see in two thousand nineteen. <hes> believe that one I would believe that one and W W to be honest with you yeah now. Here's the interesting part the second part of them leaving. Is You know the for lack of a better term ring of honor and new Japan pro wrestling also put a lot of eggs in the basket of cody young books hangman page now they still have a marty skirl. They're still Kinney Omega but right but that's who those were fighting right but those four leaving kind of feels like you have an opportunity for ring of honored to say like well. Here's some new talent. It's Jeff Cobb. It's this so lethal blah blah blah blah but I also feel like in two thousand nineteen at least for the first quarter to into second quarter. Hey Ring of honor. Hey New Japan you know with these guys leaving and potentially more if this is all in promotion comes about you. Guys have some work to do some work to do as well yeah. You got a lot too yeah I <hes> it will be interesting to see what comes of this but something is going to happen right like guess soon something command and soon so what's next we shall see all right next door you got for you and this one caught my eye just because of the level of talent that is going outside of the umbrella and it is Johnny Gargano will face Austin theory at had a ball one twenty in woodside New York <hes> do you think about that. It's going to be Saturday January nineteenth Johnny Gar Gano now he'll Johnny Gargano and spoiler annex t see you might see something with him and to Moscow CIAMPA involving ouster black but that's story and Gano a top guy five star match INEX- t you know as the baby face was the same tain face of the promotion going outside and working a match for another company evolve what thoughts I like it and I will cover more of this kind of concept in the next segment which by the way this this is a special episode these these holiday episodes traditionally. If you've been a fan of the Spanish announce table You well no we do Christmas wish list <hes> and then <hes> next episode we'll do kind of like a year and reviews recaps and awards. Maybe we'll do a new year's resolutions and those kind of things <hes> but here we keep this one short because we've got stuff to do. It's a holidays as we mentioned so we'll we'll cover but <HES> I. I'M GONNA cover that my wishlist so but this one in particular I like this I this Johnny Gargano fits that that company all right exactly where he was from evolve <hes> and the street profits have been evolve it gives them credibility. It's really strong. Did something there to make makes sense for him to say. I'm going back right. I was an evolved superstar now. Welcome back home kind of thing. That's cool. That's I just feel I feel like if it was a lesser-used talent talent on T.. For example that riddle a I agree with that the fat black guy what's his name Kevin Lee keithly chiefly keithly if it was one of those guys doing more right right well Cassius well yeah because I mean fucker. They really doing right now. Matt riddle might be getting pushed but you know what I'm saying Johnny Gargano when you say inex- two thousand eighteen it's Johnny Gargano Tomasa trump as well but johnny uh-huh CIAMPA and Gargano yeah they both fed off of each other to make all that happen so yeah a major amazing title matching gifts <hes> C._N._n.. Illness what I'm saying like really you're going to let that one. He was the face. Of inequities right yeah Ripston A._C._l.. Breaks a shoulder. I don't know like hopefully that doesn't happen and obviously he's done a million matches so it's not like he's necessarily injury posted a ball. I think he both of them all yeah. That was not good yeah. I can't see for awhile yeah so yeah so it'll be interesting to see. I hope we see more of that and that's a little bit of a spoiler also <hes> for the next segment now if you don't like spoilers a here's a sometimes life sucks right yeah talked over that sorry but yeah right so then let me get into something that I wanNa talk about and this is the big news because the Mcmahon family you don't mind is Linda because she's you know one of our <hes> cabinet members apparently so apparently she is yeah right yeah yeah because you know they run that super small business there. You know that that company that mom-and-pop shop that definitely didn't kill small businesses around the damn country slash world yeah okay all right so the McMahon's <hes> the onscreen ones show up to Monday night ron and they promise there. Hey we hear you. We realize this sucks. We've been phone of it in. We've been focused on other things right. I'm paraphrasing what they say right uh-huh and they go into the whole this things are going to be different now. Starting now we're in control and you know I mean and we're doing away with <hes> the him a rematch clause or at least they're throwing around all this shit in forgive me. This is not journalism here. I'm going to go off on millions here. <hes> I'm not buying any of this. This sounds like ask talk to me right. These people are talking right out of their ass. This sounds like they are saying everything they think they are supposed to say right now right. They think they're like we're we're. We're fixing now. We're here. No no no no you you are the problem. Do we not do. We not have some self realization here. Sorry I didn't mean terribly you're about to say no. I was GonNa say the speech they had kicked off. Raw felt a lot like I don't have kids that I know of <hes> but if a lot like you know when you catch a kid in a lie or you catch a kid doing something wrong and then apology where they're not. They're not apologizing to you because they're sorry they're just sane things. That will hopefully make you as the parents story my life. Stop it yeah just like every day. Oh I had to go don't so my intelligence. That's how that whole a promo felt. was you know because here <hes> so they bust into the whole rematch clause. That's gone like Oh excuse me. Oh okay. Am I to believe that your own made up. Obligation is why you guys keep having to write the same story line over and over and over again to death. That's why because of that damn rematch ads clause <hes>. That's why you keep writing the same shit over and over again and that's why you're suddenly GonNa stop now. I don't buy it. I don't believe a second of it well in to specifically call out that. I don't think nobody thought that was the problem wrong but I never heard as criticism like you know right. I don't watch Monday night role. You know what I don't watch pro wrestling because if they lose they just get an immediate rematch. I'm never really heard that criticism griped about it here. Go Yeah I mean you can specifically go to certain instances of course but generally speaking. We don't say like you would inst- rematches. No you know what I hate just because rematches and there's a difference I we've said on the show that I thought I was never like a this stupid. They should no longer do it. I would just went of all the things that they pulled the W._w._e.. Move on of pretended never happened. They never did that with the rematch. Clause newest like there was like a real rule rule for some reason that they had these stupid and I was like oh no it's because they don't have any ideas so they try to stretch these out for as long as they can. There are simpler ways to do this right like there's not an in the whole like well. We need new stars. It's not that we need a new stars. What we've been complaining about is Ramos Stereo was fine? Randy Orton is fine but you have ray mysterio going against rainy Orton which we've seen forever. We don't want that we want new feuds new matches new storylines you can use the old people because because they are experienced and they're very valuable Cox and here's the thing nobody cares about six random people. You're bringing up from sixteen. It's like it's next season one again like dude. What is this in like? That's great okay so you want New People because we've got all these people hang around. You're not getting rid of the old people to like. You're bringing up and adding these other people on this. None of this makes sense. It sounds like you still don't get it so don't sit here and go like Oh. We finally get it. No you don't know this as a devil's advocate advocate. This is what I will say <hes> as a counterpoint to what happened on Monday and Tuesday it is Christmas right so let's also take for what what timing <hes> is happening this announcement. You're not for example like I said <hes> next week Christmas. No one is going to be at work. It's going to be me and another person that I I rarely see right so if I get a brand new outfit for Christmas I don't know Spanish announce table Hoodie that you can get cafe press dot com or expansion unstable dot net and I get that Hoodie. I'm not gonNA wear it Christmas week at work to show it off because no one's there and so I think a little bit of this announcement was kind of mistimed in the sense of hey we have something new really right now. We'll know because we know you guys are busy. It's it's GonNa be in January. I feel like they should have said that and I know that breaking because you always want people to be watching each and every week but I feel like what we're going to see and I maybe hopeful here is going to happen the second week of January at the end of January going into February. I don't think because even if you watch Monday night raw you had them say we're getting new faces and new matchups and to to make this point to drive this point home. We're we'RE GONNA see dubs ziglar versus. Here's Barron Corbin to get beat up by the same guys who beat him up less than twenty four hours ago. What are you fucking talking about like? What are you fucking talking about the none of different that was my problem like you guys well to play devil's advocate I again? It's because hey next we. We already taped her shows. We take two shows in one night so we already got next week in the CAN. Let's let's get through the holidays because we know Tim is busy with you. Know Christmas Thomas out there drinking away just empty feelings that he has <hes> we'll get into January I get why can't say like well and I've got some advice suggestions for them to think about while they are getting through the holidays right because they don't take breaks but yeah they're gonNA use holidays so <hes> it yes new matchups in new faces great but you could roll an endless circus of people. I've never heard of the door each and every week and you'll still see declining ratings. Nobody cares if you don't give me a god Aw damn reason right like some of you out there. The reason is will this guy has coo- flips and Shit right but that is not the average television viewer especially here in the United States where the majority of your money's coming from just not how it works gotta come up with some storylines storylines. If it takes you hiring better writers. We discuss this where you have to temper the writers a little bit because it's a different animal in the wrestling world right you have a holy dependable talked about this well. We talked about this. <hes> through Texas link right because pro wrestling is a different animal well in this sense and I wholeheartedly believe this because there's proof to it but you can't necessarily higher the best soap opera writer from days of our lives to the come over to wrestling and say like hey. Hey all that cool shit you did over there you here and on the other end of the spectrum. I don't think you can say hey thirty years pro wrestling fan right as the greatest pro wrestling because the best have a mixture of boat and that's why Guy Gertz or something that Levin who's who's the rocks guy is Gerwig girl with its. That's why he left you know why because he not not to say he mastered but he did awesome in in pro wrestling but pro wrestling wasn't his life blood so when rock left he goes way. There's some more money over there and he went there right. It's because you can't have outsiders who'd no nothing about this because we've seen locally if you don't know what wrestling is you will fail in wwl and if you don't know anything other than pro wrestling will you're just going to tell the same story because it's predictable. I've got suggestions for them. Then right. So what you do is you don't hire those people to write your scripts and your full on doesn't restoring land right but there's no reason you can't have a pool of guys to sit there and kick out ideas all day long that you can in fluff and taken us a manipulate. There's no reason you can't source out people to listen to every damn talk show and podcast they find here those little nuggets and go ooh. I heard random schmuck have a thing that maybe we can work with right like because you can't do it by yourself when you have to kick it out every damn week fifteen hours of programming every week like you're gonNa have to crowd source some of this right like yeah start doing some of that pay some schmuck slightly above minimum wage to just come up with reports. Hey here's some random shit. I heard some people suggest it may suck. It may be good good and somebody's going no no okay. I'll let them read that one all at them think about that one and like you know maybe five percent ever reach even somebody's desk matters but there's some fresh ideas that person think about in. I mean like maybe they come up with something of those right. Like how many times have I give you a list of random things and a slight concept or our listeners have and you came up with team act storytime right. There's people can do that if we just give them some tools right so they can do some things like that. There's there's also how they're writing this right like you said there's three segments of Nyah Jacks guys you have way too. Many people. Keep these real quick and short I if I see bobby rude more than two minutes on my screen you've spent much time on him because you have so much time to fill. Let me see the next part of the Bobby route chapter next week right like lead me cliffhanger and you could give me fourteen cliffhangers each week he would make ron one of the most exciting things all week because every story line you're only getting a little snippet a bit of but all of its enthralling right you have to spread this out over time but make it short and just make it so many that it's boom boom boom boom and you're like Holy Shit they've got so much going on. Is that makes sense to like yeah you stretch it out and then compact so much in there like I just right yeah you don't want to you. Don't want your segments to be droning tour. You're like really we're still going with a ten minute segment and even to further the point not to pile on but in classic McMahon structuring is here is a brand new Monday night role and we're GONNA kick it off with a twenty minute Promo God damnit guys you've done this every time and I get because if you go back and one thing to really pay attention attention to is when McMahon did Vince McMahon did the Stone Cold Steve Austin podcast one things he said is you have to have a story at the start to make people care about the match later and that is true right. It's hard for a general viewer were to just say here's the bell and here's music here comes bobby rude and here's another guy why are they fighting right and I understand that but the twenty minute promo that says here's what we're starting with and at the end the night this is going to have a bullet the end that's where we have to stop it. Starving so formulaic right you can have the main story but the main story doesn't necessarily need to be the first segment doesn't need to be Seth rollins music hitting it can be at eight fifteen and the first segment can just be announced. I'm going all around here but the first segment can be a United States championship match for you know. Shinsegei Nakimora has risen. You have a dark match for the live crowd for a reason your T._v.. Audience might need that. Also you know what I mean. We might need a teaser. Go Oh shit and then we go all right. Let's get into this right like that's how they do T._v.. Writing and here's another idea okay. It was very evident while we railed on the McMahon's man's for here. You guys go thinking that like Oh. We finally get it when you don't we've talked about how Vincent Man is just better at this then the other McMahon's and the other people who've trying to come after him so when he's having his segment with the MS on smackdown. It's just way better than any authority figure they've ever tried to plug in there. He just comes off way better. So the you've got to go do is fine yourself if it's gotta be actors or a guy like Corey graves who you can no longer really using the ring or maybe just aren't GonNa like Leo rush like they're never really gonNa make him a huge thing but he's great on the Mike Start Moving those guys into those roles right who can play those better who are believable actors because like McMahon play in him off me like hey ash the door felt so damn real and we don't get that was some of these other garbage you keep throwing out here guys right. The acting game has to step it up. You've gotta get coaches in there. You've got to have acting courses to understand storytelling and structure and because the same the same what you're saying about like the television writers not working for like soap operas and stuff yes absolutely but story ARCS and how you structure a story and how you segmented out and your plot points all one hundred percent apply all of them one hundred percent apply all of your leg when you're twisted come and your rising action Chicago and you're falling action and your resolution should come all of those plot points at one hundred percent apply to the storytelling aspect progressing so that's where some some outside help of people who are just successful at that can help them miles like and they don't get that I agree but I also think a little bit is that I think where I totally one hundred percent agree with you. I also would counter with man that's asking a lot because you're saying be good actor and then also do this other thing that no one else does and understand how to read a crowd and then perform physical pro wrestling well so that's where so you do that more so in in your authority figures right like you're you guys are playing that McMahon role in that kind of stuff those were. I get irritated. Let's tell a different story. You know that to live. I watched a little bit of two zero five live because I was bored and open with an authority figure. All Three Damn Shows Authority figure tells talent what to do we can we told before Austin McMahon fun fact for the new pro wrestling fans we told stories different aren't before horsemen never had an authority figure that commissioner telling them what to do. Now there were board members and blob forced remember there was Jack Tony and stuff but it was never the Focal Point Yeah Jack Act. Tony was never a twenty minute promo to start W._B._Z.. Superstar was never the protagonist he was never antagon- right he was that was the decision maker yeah he was just the he was the Supreme Court Right <music> what you can do for people internationally. The Supreme Court is the last decision maker just how Vince did with with the wisdom is right. He didn't like become the center of that storyline align. He was just like Vince I want done like what do you want me to do about it. You suck you know what I mean like like. Go figured out some other way. That's great. That's great as long as believable with Vince believable with page. I'm sorry it isn't like she's actually I don't think she was great and I thought her role was perfect. Jeez better than what they've had out there but like it's definitely not there with Kurt Angle and it's definitely there with walk is is you know this whole revamp jump to me and again trying to pay attention to the I._W._c. on twitter and things like that. I didn't necessarily here that smackdown was sucking that bad now all matchup like you said the Reindeer Orton <hes> Ramos Stereo thing but I thought page was doing good like was suffering what the authorities storyline. I thought page was being used great where it was like hey we need to do a contract assigning we'll slowly and hey we need a match right now. I'll make it happen but we need to start telling stories going back to my original point. We need to start telling stories a wave not everyone has an authority figure that they WANNA hate eight or love right sometimes might be as just directly with you. Sometimes my competition is just for the title. It doesn't need to be this this authority figure burden all the time one hundred percent agree with that it does not need to be. I do however think they one hundred percent dropped the ball with the barren corbin thing. Did you hear how much heat he was getting on raw when he came out and they were. I don't think that's the thing is done because that's like the deal is day dake because it was new and different that it was like an active guy who was still you could argue his like he's probably not even in his prime yet right and still on is sending figure on the Rosser and he could have become drunk drunk with power which he started to do but then you just made it an easy joke if you made him believable and hard to beat and cunning and this is where the writers help right like how to make it like what the fuck not really mean what you know what I mean. What's he really getting at like the hidden little like the the there's no more of man what's really going on right like we don't have to think that anymore because just so blatantly obvious what's going on and it's pretty boring and simple like it's just too simple anymore like I don't Oh? I don't know what it's hard though too because I want to be a little bit fair. Is You know for example. I think for for a new wrestling fan one of the stories that I thought was cool but I could see see from a mile away but that's because I watch wrestling for ten hours a week for last twenty years. Plus right was when Dean Ambrose came out with his fun little masked men called out seth rollins Seth rollins income come out so they did an open challenge and that was cool right. That's a new matchup 'cause going into Monday night raw. You did not think that there was going to be an intercontinental championship match between Tyler Breeze and drew and Dean Ambrose right cool and then Dean Ambrose wins because he's the better talented he'll but he's a better talented wrestler than tyler breeze and he wins but then he goes Seth rollins you coward you were never there well. He was dressed up as one of the guys any beats them up for me and you and most of the listeners here that I have watched pro wrestling. We probably all saw that coming but for my girlfriend who I forced to watch this stuff. She was genuinely shocked because she hadn't seen that right. Sure one thing that is hard for the pro. Wrestling writer is where that hits well with emily that does not hit well with me or you because we've seen this ties and it's hard because everything there's nothing new under the sun kind of thing a half so here I've got a suggestion also right and we're going to cover this more <hes> in the next segment as well but you have a ton of different brands right now under your umbrella and they shouldn't be that distinct different goddamn brands right. We're sitting here arguing over some fine details about what we think. There's the direction should be. There's no reason they couldn't do. Both they have to main rosters. They have an INEX- t they haven't next U._K.. They have a tool five live. You could be doing five different kind of angles. Listen things for your different subsets of your fans right and then I won't be turned off by half the show and not WanNa Watch because I think half of it sucks right. I might just watch this brand and be more dedicated to that and and watch that more and buy more suffering advertise like there's no reason you can't do that guys you could have you could have the thing I want the more plot twists in the in the short segments and the more nighttime drama esque kind of feel to it right. You could have an thing where that and you can cherry pick your specific talent that works best for that and then you can have a tool five. That's pretty much R._O._A.. To light right like we're just going to go out there and we're GonNa have these twenty minute matches. Everybody flips all over the place and you go. Oh my God wow all right you can have that but you could like you said have ray mysterio junior in that and you can have you like you could cherry pick the best talent frigging johnny got could be in that and like you know what I mean you could split this up guys like you don't have to fit everything into every show. The same way doesn't have to be everything for everybody and then outcome smackdown and it's everything for everybody and then an extreme. It's like almost everything for almost everybody and then it's two five and it's like this thing for these couple guys like with the fucker you talking about guys like come on brains yourselves right here this is we're if you had coke and then it was like Kinda coke also and then like a coke but not as good yet and then like a small coke like in we're talking about the drink right like go came but like let's say Coca Cola right like Pepsi or whatever right yeah like if they had these different they've got coke and sprite and whatever their oranges if it's fans or whatever there's Dr Pepper but if it was like coca-cola and then pretty much also coca-cola and then here's coca-cola but they're just need a little bit more. Or you know flavor yet and then here's the the the light bodied coca-cola like nobody would buy that Shit. That doesn't make any sense so like you guys are doing that. I don't know I what do I know. I don't get paid to do the the money. If you go to table. Show gmail.com and donated dollars help out with his rants because he's obviously distraught over this announcement. The man's are really going to change anything. It's become clear that they just don't actually actually honestly get it and they clearly they do and they just don't and now I'm hoping you brought up a thought. I didn't think of maybe it just isn't there yet. Maybe they gotta get to the holidays all right so I better yes so yeah. Maybe they go get through the holidays. Maybe go that's what it is. I think now I'm being overly optimistic right. I have no reason to be but I'm thinking hey hey. We're not gonNA shoot her shot when no one's watching on Christmas we're not gonNA shoot are shot on New Year's when no one's watching. I think that's stupid in kind old style thinking because if you go back to podcast right what's the biggest podcast ever hit and pro wrestling was pong pong shit all over W._B._Z.. You know when that was dropped Thanksgiving Day right it broke a website so the whole like we can't do because it's Christmas because new years they will come to you the notification the twitter it will come to you right right but I also think they are trying to say like hey talent take a break Yadda Yadda Yadda anyhow so I'm I'm holding out judgment judgment until February right if it's February and it's a triple threat between drew McIntyre Fin Ballard and Dope Sigler then now fuck off right. It's Gosh what are you doing over there. Ten thrown everything around no I didn't even tension and just like started doing that. Shit <hes> all right <hes> it's royal rumble incomes your elite guys incomes. <hes> you know what I mean like they. They make a few other changes and they go look. Everything's different now guys one thing I wanted to point out just like you said more do the horse women and then they'll be like look we brought a new people but like you said more new faces does not mean better because one thing that you're not doing is flushing out the old right so but Lars Sullivan to smack and that's cool whatever but you know who you still have their Randy Orton or pick it on radio and a little bit but let's use another person you still have their tied injure so let's get rid of one. Let's get like that's my problem is cool. There's new faces and that's fun for me. I like it right because that's where you can have new stories told with talent that hasn't yes yet been established the other thing that I hope changes what one thing that I do hope that changes is when they try these tired storylines. They don't use the tire talent and case in point was the bar and the new day right when the bar has a new person. Don't have it be the fucking big show right. You found an older guy than people who've been on your roster for seven years the thing you can you can do a third. That's what I'm saying. Yes that could have been Lars Sullivan. That could have been one of the sanity guys that you're not to use anymore. That could have been the heavy machinery guy the little Jauregui that's good. They're going to be a comedy act by the way month going for Frat boys and they're not gonNA. They're not gonNA hit yeah. He's GonNa make heavy machinery. I bet you he makes a short little heavy machinery scenery guy a stuttering bubba Ray. That's exactly what I see him doing well. They already planned that way in that. He's that's what triple h is doing with them. What do you think Vince McMahon's going to do with them right so so that's for them but anyhow so ron smackdown? Let's say at least a positive. What was your favorite takeaway besides the announcement? What did you like and then we'll get into our Christmas thing? After the break void you like what would would you take away saying like okay. I'll get behind this. I I don't know I I felt turned off a lot of by rob because I was just like I don't you you know I mean like you guys are ending with the natty thing like Y- in with the nanny thing nobody is telling you that the story line is great and that they care and it's not about a fucking woman thing because everybody's telling you they love Becky Lynn right like we would absolutely support her finishing the show like so that was there they in the baron corporate thing where I just thought they had so many folks angles they could've went off of right like even even if you take him out of power immediately but you just squash them here like you just felt weird right and then the McMahon thing turn the. I don't think there was anything on there. I enjoyed smackdown better but I'm worried we talked about Dana Brian. He seems to be dead set ongoing the C._J.. Parker out which is a little unfortunate but whatever he pulls off much better fairness and fairness and unfairness most of the people watching him to it right now never heard her seen Parker so Brian. What do they care <hes> so yeah? I I really like that MS McMahon segment I just I I do think that hey there there at least acknowledging that they've been dropping the ball and they can say some shit and if it's full of Shit they'll see that the ratings aren't improving right so at least threat they can be foolish all they want as long as we keep not watching when you coming when they're full of Shit than that should sort itself out so that's my positive takeaway from raw that maybe they're full of Shit and they'll realize their full of shit. How about that didn't that positive cheer say? Hey like you told me the smackdown main event. That's what I took away because it was hopefully what that whole new faces thing does because you want establish talent right. You don't want to just say this is Buddy Murphy Mustafa Lee Cedric Alexander and Hideo Tommy in our main smackdown right because in the general fan would be like who the why but how how we've been talking about it seems like for this entire segment what they did awesome and what I hope they can do from now on is put an established stars with your newcomers right so Mustafa Lee now I know gene burns a champion but even outside of that Mustafa Lee Penning Daniel Bryan makes you go ho what right and C._N._N.. Illness Amazing Match Win A._J.. Styles was the champ C._N._N.. Can Fuck Up A._J.. A little bit we like Holy Shit will maybe we got something here. Maybe he could eliminate the undertaker in the Royal Rumble then these success and easy but what I'm saying is that that main event gave me a little a little bit of hope of like okay in January and February we can see this now. It had the hallmark of one of the stupidest things that we hate is. Hey these two guys. They're going to be a team why because they don't like those other guys because they're both European or whatever the fucking Alice and Daniel Bryan have no allegiance to each other. They don't give a shit right but they're a team. That was but what I'm going going to be positive about was that Mustafa. Ali is getting a push now. It's given look like it's something I I thought smackdown again was the better show there's a couple things though that fell flat and this is where hard right because if viral down on paper the Samoa Joe Jeff Hardy story for Tuesday night smackdown. That's good like I told you that tonight right. If I said okay well we're going to do is going to have similar jill apologize but then it turns into intervention and and then he's GonNa say how Jeff Hardy can't handle his demons but then Jeff Hardy is GonNa turn it on him and say like actually you're projecting because you can't win anything now that you're on the main roster your project and you grow right but then like Oh okay that's cool which was good disc that you watch it. I don't know the crowd Kinda sat on their hands and I kind of went like yet. I figured it out Tom. I figured out what the new thing is. What they're going to do come January like what the new thing is? Yes it's been right under knows the whole time. We've just been talking about it. It'll be the W._W._e.. Debut of get out of here. Let's say let's it's not take a break because what I wanNa do before because it is a special show and we're not gonNA Kinda cover in Death Ron smackdown like we did. I WANNA shout out all the glorious fans who have been doing Hashtag tweet the table on twitter right and I picked up top team right the and the top bunking right we picked him out and I'm GonNa read them right here. I ONE WE'RE GONNA start with at b-dubs abby and a score double underscore by the way dude sin as a bunch of money told us get some coronas honest. I gotTA BE UPFRONT. I suddenly realize we had to renew the the website like in two days and I was like Oh crap and I was like hey. We just got that money from b-dubs so you bought our website. So how about this sorry. We didn't get the krona's we told everybody how great we think are but here's what also we're going to do right for the next year the read this website thanks to you when we tell you visit Spanish announce table Dot net it is Spanish now. It's table Dot net brought to you by beatable th right you like dead there. You go double. D Your the website sponsor. How about that? If you want to sponsor anything about this show right you wanNA sponsor the new segment you want to sponsor tweet the table You wanNA sponsor anything reach out to us right. Maybe soon as a well you would consider a healthy donation right table able to Jamila common the papal until what you want to sponsor and we'll consider it and see if we want to accept your donation there you go abby underscore double underscore de says hold up hold up how how long has Carmella been wrapping with our truth during the entrance. That shit has to stop Hashtag tweet the table yeah. That's not coming across well. No I know I what else do you want her to do not p they're not doing that. She's good but she's the comedy sing thing right now. Like I guess defense I mean she was the comedy thing with with <hes>. What's his name Guy? WHO's yeah no the other guy who's been shown as Dick two little girls Ellsworth right? We haven't talked about that in the news right. That dude's fucking because it's not worth it together that guy's creep that Kenny first lady says two thousand eighteen was definitely a year I for the women in W._W._e.. And hopefully the final of those I will culminates and main eventing Wrestlemainia Hashtag tweet the table ooh ooh i. I don't know W._B._Z.'s ready to swallow that Pilat. Here's here's a quick question before we get back into it because I don't want to be to droning with the segment but do you think and just you know can be short-form if you'd like but do you think the W._w._e.'s emphasis assists on women's pro wrestling <hes> is correlated to their lower ratings. Ooh I think you could attribute lower ratings to subpar product that you've put out there both in your in ring and your and when I say you're entering. I don't mean that some of these girls are not good in ring what I mean is they're not telling any kind of story for the entering product to go along with right. There's no in ring story going on the matches. I just don't really mean anything to US right. There's not a that I can discern like a hey. This is happening in this match right like in. Here's how I could tell somebody how this match went down. That's just not there so yes but again when you say that and we framed question that way it sounds like we're saying because they're putting out the women no what they're doing is they're forcing women out there that aren't ready aren't good at this and because you wanna say look at how many women were giving this opportunity to will great but you have the better grooming opportunity opportunity on your lower levels where they're arguably better off for long-term performance so yeah I I could see why that would but it would be the same if they just do random guys from the performance center out there that we're athletic athletic right but then no wrestling all that because that's what they did they kept throwing. There's a subsection of guys that just don't WanNa watch women's wrestling and when done for the last hour of your show sure yeah and right or wrong whether or not the wrong good or bad thing but I'm just saying you know that I would say that aside and who didn't watch ron painting matches and so they tuned off when that was going around during you know again again you can have endless. Dan Brands guys. You can have that you. You'd have a prompt. Danny's Brian if you wanted to write. You probably wouldn't go well for you but you get the idea of what I'm saying here. Whatever you thought like this is an angle you wanna go down you know anyway back to the ultimate wants is becky? Lynch is the man with or without the women's title has checked with Table Yet. You think that shines GonNa fade here with what's going on and he thinks she's still rocket. Upper ass ready to do oh my God. I don't know if you saw this but <hes> lar- Sullivan tried to go at her and Becky Lynch torched console bad that he deleted his tweet wow fucking awesome as I love her. I like that she's embraced that she's like the People's champ now right so she manages to throw it in without sending she's playing through them really well. Everything sounds so genuine to the point where you know I'm assuming this on podcast before but I'm assuming that Charlotte and Becky Lynn are still friends behind the scenes scores but all of he's tweet make me go surely thinks that she's thought that maybe they're not friends. She's at least thought what she say right whether or not she thinks the cool thing about it is is I don't know right. I don't know if this is real. I don't know maybe Charlotte saying okay. Go after this about me right and vice versa but all I know is man. This is real like this is. This is the part where I go like. I don't know that's supposed to happen because manch color bitch think you know right Becky can continue to do that without hitting the same beat. I think she's going to be awesome. Atmosphere fourth row says Barron Corbin wants to be the G._M.. But the chairman of the board have something else to say has talked with table and I want to go a little more in depth on this one because I agree with you that we shouldn't base the show around. I'm an authority figure drunk with power. I hate all the good guys because I'm an evil person. I just hate smiles and I like my friends out or vice versa right. We shouldn't have have that but where you were hitting with Corbin for me was this is a guy who's in over his head to start started kind of get his feet wet managed to figure out that he can kind of role with the punches and can take advantage of the situation but didn't realize that you can only do do that for so long right so even if they would killed his power right here if you wouldn't have squashed him and you made it almost where he had a legitimate gripe to be like a I that's not fair. I shouldn't have lost that way that shouldn't count and one of these four McMahon's goes I agree with him. You know like and then there's an internal struggle and then he has a shot back at this and he's still gets to have his strategic plays with his friends who might be trying to ride with him because he might have shown in power again right like and you can have other people vying for power our like. There's no reason that like you. There's just these things that they could have done with this and it just became a let's all point laugh at them. Auburn Corbin stands in a sling on him with his foot like really a what was the whole bunch from several Oh. I'm sorry Yeah Brunson <hes> what was the whole point of the last couple months then guys like it's not your show sucked but it wasn't because of him and it wasn't because of that story line it was because you guys do any of this right I agree. I think the story I don't think it's over but if it is over it feels like Vincent Man Son Angle where we just sect exactly all right. We'll hit a another one from abby underscore double underscore d. He says I hope it Lisa Fox walks in gender win this big Mac Shit and win the vacation that way. I don't have to see them for a while. Aztec tweet the table yeah the big challenge. Let me go into that so our truth and Carmelo win. You're mixed match challenge right. They mixed match champions of a tournament that you important enough to give them the thirtieth spot in the royal rumble coming up next month right in their first madge after winning the tournament and getting the thirtieth spot and taking their vacation nation to the W._B._Z. Headquarters Blanche's which is really stupid. It's just fun. Well Yeah Right. How many times can our truth play dumb black guy? That's a little racist anyhow that's beside the point but right so so you're mixed matched challenge champions their first match since getting this victory and writing this momentum like wave as crowds behind lose to MS and a partner Ms. I didn't even pick maslow's just handed tournament was team lost two random team you dumbs exactly there's no there's snow and this is where the help from the outside people who do this more successfully in terms of storytelling are better at they're going to be able to see the overall. I think we're going to cover this in the next segment the overall theme of the product that you're putting out of any particular brand right like there's got to be an over arching theme that everything falls under it can't contradict it and it can't you know what I mean like. If you want ms to get that victory with mystery partner so then he can further his storyline with Shane McMahon to get them to be come a tag team that is awesome and that is great. It's even okay that if our truth and Carmella lose that match where it's not Matt Okay is if our truth Carmella just lose clean where he has to happen is our truth says hey babe. We already won this match. I don't really WanNa work that hard. I'm really looking forward to the vacation. I WANNA do random dance break break and that's how they lose Carmella says hey you know I got my hair. Did I'm not tagging in wait till after the rumble something massage keep them both baby face but you can't just have off your champ end of a tournament that you say is important just lose but I'm saying they don't. Have anybody saying exactly what you just said. They need somebody job positions assistant just eh doing it but there's this for you. Tim All right listeners doing good because they don't have anybody. They're doing that right. There's nobody sitting there going okay. They're looking at okay in match one you did this guy is you can't then in match three do the same thing and we call it a good thing right like there's no oversight. It feels like in correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know I'm not back there but it feels like they've got a bunch of agents assigned to certain people right like so these people have bro Dog and these people have whomever and open they go all right. You got the four segment and you have this match feuds this. We're building to this many. What are you going to nine? They go well. We thought we'd do this and then they go works. Okay fine right and row dog might think of his four matches right and he goes everything looks good. Nobody's mixing up but then somebody else over here is handling therefore people right and I feel like those two aren't talking right because we get a lot of the same things happening. The same characters just repackaged in slightly different ways. There's not enough singular oversight of strategic planning right. There's no strategic planning the brand story line a little bit on the talent right like if you are truth and Carmelo you can't just say I don't know if they did or not but I'm just saying it seems this way. You can't just say like okay boss networks. I'll lose no it. My character were to lose day would be doing it this way or this way or why would they be okay. After the match you know and you should say that because you know what like you don't have that fear anymore that we talked about like where there's no other game in town right. Cody Rhodes finally said I'm not doing this anymore and he's one of the most successful goddamn wrestlers out there now. You know what I mean now. He has talent but you also have to shoot someone on Main Street to get fired from W._b.. Because they just keep Iran for or fucking ten years that is still on the Ross was our truth so listen i. Let's move on at Katie. First Lady says wow about instead of the breeze. Let's just call them tyler black. He's not named Seth. rollins has the table that would work yeah. I I like it. Let's go yeah get away from if you if you were going away from his gimmick right and you WANNA turn him like off he could just be like. I'm black like just like our that works as all right at Wer. Cata says I'd rather have to who our raw better storytelling realism and non scripted promos before new faces Hashtag tweet the table and I agree with them a lot and we're going to talk about some of that my Christmas wish list but I mean we're GonNa talk specifically about the to our raw and you know so we'll we'll save some of that. Talk Walk in the obvious counterpoint to that but <hes> yeah. I think we've he's echoing everything. We've kind of said here. It's not about just new faces guys like you're not storytelling. There's no realism and your promo sound way too scripted acted like three glaring problems you have that you can fix with acting coaches. You can teach with even just education like normal school. Go to a full. Sail doesn't have an acting class like where they just kind of discuss like. Here's here's. Here's script writing and here's here's the theme of like storytelling throughout time like there's none of this like none of this and I just I don't get it all right to left. We got at Feo seventy-five says Vince McMahon announces on RAW. He's transferring his brain onto Johnson a clone and he will continue to run the W._W._e.. For the next eighty years and we'll develop the X. L. B. X.. P. H. L. Nextel S to begin in two thousand twenty Hashtag tweet the table. That sounds plausible sounds more original than what they did and at the ultimate one says my Bay Oscar has the title but she's being treated like a third string quarterback has talked with the table begin she is she is the third string quarterback of that roster of the of the story line. Well yeah okay. I have a confession okay so I hate it Oscar stupid unnecessarily Sara Lee so no it was very promo. She was being burst as unstoppable force. which didn't it didn't look like it right? Yeah I grew it had a had a look that it made me think of a kiosk Gamal and nothing about her was charismatic now. She does all these weird dumb things like when they started chaining her name and she searched his shimmying. Yes cute. She's fun to watch cheers dorky Landis charming aspect of her care. You could at a party hang out with her. Never say a word because you're going to do some fun dances. You're gonNA share some knowing glances Lance's right to be Comedy Act but Roy doing that humanizer exactly going through the first women's T._l._C. match coming out as victor gives you some credibility whereas hated the the whole shares undefeated streak will first off. She's not beating anyone. It was just bunch of bombs and then when she finally they'd pay someone she lost the Wrestlemainia so fuck her but now she's doing all these little fun things she saying no one's ready for Oscar she it can go through and has credibility winning the first royal rumble and now winning the first women's steel see chicken polled herself third-string yes. I'm not hainer. As much as I used to know I I never did. I always felt that way. I'm like yeah absolutely right. You'RE GONNA put her in the match to help Becky Lynch get through somebody so we can get to Charlotte or we can right. You know what I mean like. She's the she's the what Vincent said was the maintenance guy right like yeah. We're not like I always felt like we shouldn't be having these major long. Title Unsure an Oscar title run here and there but she's never should be like the on the poster the face but she absolutely is great to be the counterpoint to those people that you're trying to build right. You know what I mean like. She's definitely that level be for me is all how I always felt now. I know that was sacrilegious to some people I mean they were like the best thing ever. Am I getting ripped off when they're like. She's the best female pro wrestler two thousand eight. I would've bought it. I would've bought it if she was unstoppable because she was sly and technically savvy enough to beat these girls who were more powerful or more exp- or whatever right like because she knew the the the correct <hes> way to choke them out or she knew that right. I mean like and it was just unstoppable because she was so skilled but they weren't doing that. It was just here's a match and she one was like okay and yet now. Maybe I'm also just getting beat down with the stupid Nissen now finding charming but I also you know before this. I hated like awkward stupid dance that she would do when I looked unstoppable force it's like it looks like she's having a seizure. She walks to the ring who's scared of that and what's with all these goddamn colors fucking Jesus. That's what I mean skills and then put it into a coat. It's like yeah it was like if they had Zack Ryder come out with the one legged pants still doing long island is e and they were like he's unstoppable and nobody can beat them. What talking maybe just because they've done it so long? It's like it is what it is. You've just accepted and now she's not. It's even though she's a champion. She's also not number one Becky Lynn Charlotte. You know what I mean. It's Ed Stockholm. Syndrome is what I have to the table you to play along <hes> we may read some of them on the show. That's only promise we definitely might read some of them on the show if take to the table with any arresting thought you have it anytime of the day whenever you damn wealthy like it. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. We'll come back and we're going to give us our Christmas wishlist. You're going to be our Santa and we're going to sit on your lap you right now. We are both GONNA sit. Sit on your lap and we're going to tell you what we want. Christmas whispered here when we come back to the Spanish heads Table Fun fact the largest exporter of sugar is Cuba. We the Spanish announce table. It is the Christmas season. I'm starting off this segment because I'd like to talk to you. I <hes> one thing that is starting to become a tradition in my family is my dad all of a sudden as taken up the duty of dressing up a Santa and providing <hes> not make a wish because it's not official official through that organization but essentially going to either nursing homes or kids who cannot <hes> leave their house because of health concerns and being Santa for those people last two years been doing that win over or to my friends yeah went over to my friend Chris's House. He had his baby prematurely at four months so she all of these things Oh mercy out once the children's mercy we did <hes> <hes> Christmas last year there now Levi that's the baby's name she's home but she says the trait and things like that yeah so my months is almost not enough. That's bare minimum almost to to live outside of yeah yeah and then Chris or excuse me my dad went over Christmas house. This year dressed up a Santa also goes to retirement homes. I always ask him if he knows anyone because he's old <hes> but he goes there and Santa for them so go to see her high school class there. I think that is becoming a fun during Christmas season but you know as as usual when you visit you tell what you want for Christmas and so as a tradition on this podcast we tell tells c._n._n.. which in this case is you listener what we want for Christmas so tim what for Christmas in pro wrestling this year? It's my turn to tell Santa. which is the listener Yep all right? I'm GONNA sit on your lap listener right. JUST WANNA make sure everybody's aware of what's happening <hes> my I wish like to make it weird. I'd like to make an awkward sometimes you is. I'M GONNA call it. The elephant in the room and I'm GonNa wish that W._W._e.. Is Real with their promise changes right. I'M GONNA wish on every wish we've got number one out. I hear that they're buying time like you're saying right that they get in there like okay we at least got to address it. We can't act like it doesn't exist anymore. We've had the worst rating ever enough. People are saying it that we would be worse off to not even say anything right like yeah. We're waiting on you know whoever to clear up and Yada Yada and given a ride sure right like we've got X._Y._Z.. Plan we just gotTa buy time to hear while the ratings are going to segment of what we do. I hope that's right. That's number one wish because 'cause I just gotTa do something different right and so at this point almost anything different is welcome but man you can really fuck up some different right some a little of a little have some anxiety over this and on that's my wish that they actually fully get it and they actually have some legitimate stuff plan because what they gave us as the look at the new changes was like that's a change right right. I agree. I agree. That's that's a big wish but I like it. I'm going to smaller not as bold. My I wish for Santa is that we put Matt Riddle on Monday night role and I want him now in the main event picture right because everyone wants the debut in guy to be the main of Innov- wrestlemainia get there. I'm talking just two thousand nineteen for two thousand nineteen. I want him to be intercontinental champion. I Love Matt Riddle title. I think he's great. I think he's awesome for one reason in particular why so high on Matt Riddle is he is an intimate fighter who got fired from the U._F._C. on four fight winning streak because of smoking we'd but his wrestling character has nothing to do with intimate now. His style in ring is an intimate but they don't say he does the rear naked chokes all that stuff but he is the king of Bros.. Right and I love that he is so nonchalant. He is so cool he flips the flip flops off. He hangs out. He swings his flowing. She's eating grin on his face at talk. He's he's more attractive than half of the divas on the Ron or half of the women superstars on the roster. Everybody knows his cooler than everybody Yep and he can kick your ass right. He's awesome and so I want my Mike. I wish is I want Matt rental to be on Monday night raw and at least once become the intercontinental champion that's good. I like that one that one is not as bold as the one I had before. I like that yeah. It's a really good won. The second ones even more bold Tom and your top shelf. I am going top shelf because it's a wish if anybody can make a wish happen it Santa you the listener her member. I'm on your lap all right. How did we talk about that? <hes> okay yeah I did. It's a two hour Bra Tom. If ratings are this crappy your advertising advising isn't GonNa come in at the top dollar anyway right Yada get back. You've gotta get back to the to our raw until the better stories to build it back up. If you WANNA get back to a third hour raw maybe you can get there but like to this is suck and this is terrible. It all sucks so I want us to go back to our <hes>. That's less likely to happen to my other way but say Santa as I tell you whisper quietly in your ear some on your lab listener right my second back when six for all your hate meal at bringing okay with that all right my second wish is more. It's a wish but it's also I WANNA see if we're all right on the man before. The man was Becky Lynch if you remember and W._b.. The man before Becky Lynch was Seth Rollins and one thing we say to lower blue in the face is man. We should build this company around Seth rollins right well if you look historically and at the numbers anytime seth rollins is being featured in the main event ratings aren't the best now now since the brand split and since his emergence as a top guy he's always been on raw so my wish is that we transfer Seth rollins over to smackdown which we all kind of consensus agree. He is the better show and I WANNA see if Seth rollins the man can actually come through and be the focal point of a great wrestling show so my wish that he gets moved over to smack down as the top guy champion champion but I wanna see I wanna see him on the better show and if he's on the better show. Let's see if he can do what we all think he can do. I like this. I like the slot because it's GonNa roll very well into my third wish for saying let's see yeah <hes> <hes>. It's that you said you WanNa see him on the better show right because you think is GonNa work better over there right. You know what I mean. You WanNa see right right right right <hes>. I think it's there's so many things that factor into why you consider smackdown better we agree right the better but it may be for different reasons than I think smackdown better right or I may think Ross bidder for a variety of reasons right somebody out there might think rose better. I want you to reconfigure your brands. They need to be much more different from each other right W._W._e.. This is what I want like the Rock and be your more comic book. Ask Your your nighttime drama esque right. You're you're very storyline. Driven wild characters <hes> doing more outlandish things right. You're smackdown can be more of your just. This is a solid dude with the name right and he's a bad ass and he's an athlete and he's better than this other guy and and I've been better than you forever. You can remember we go back it right and you tell those kind of storylines right like that. That's like it can be wildly different wildly different like a totally different fields right like your segments can be different lengths your your storylines can be a different variety of nate. You know like it just it. Your next can be completely different kind of is from the other ones but not enough if you get what I'm saying being different things going on in exte- maybe is an outlier because you consider that like a Bi level so I get that but maybe you have a bi level of one of those brands right like 'cause you can tell certain towns fit better into that. I do think seth rollins fits better into this guy right like this is a guy who's really great at what he does and he's cool in some aspects right like to some people and he does Crawford and he does you know what I mean like He. He wears the the comic book stuff so he's got those guys like that's his own Gig League right like Dean Ambrose kind of fits into that he's not an outlandish character right but like a Roussev in a Nakimora and a bronze stroman those guys fit on raw because that's a comic book and it's a cartoon in its Bra and screaming and stuff like that right like you can have totally different brands with different looks different fields the way format it to five live can be or Ramos deals. You're Johnny Gargano is you're actually two oh five and under and it can be more R._O.. H Like like you just had this variety of it. That's my wish and that would I think utilize your talent better. You can focus on those kinds of story lines. It's just much more efficient to me. I like it all right. Here's my third story line now. It's Kinda as we've progressed during this podcast episode it it was something that I announced Kinda changed as I've been thinking about it so I'll say originally what it is and then I'll give you a second kind of wish on top of that so my main wish that I will say to center is that what one Colin storyline to dominate W._W._e.. For Two thousand nineteen from January two December I want one story line that dominates everything affects everyone. I E and I'm going top shelf with this <hes> comparison but you get what I'm saying. I E stone cold versus Vincent Man Again. I don't need it to be authority right. You can go to e C W and say Tasr versus Babu you can go to W._C._w.. And say sting versus the N. W. O. But what I'm saying is I want one storyline that affects an entire roster and everyone is tuning in for Star Cave Ninety seven you go back and watch that pay review. No one gave a shit about the first five matches of that card 'cause we were all there for the main event noted that suck for the first five show or five matches of that show yeah but guess what you're the first five match of those of the show Suck Dick I'm. I'm tired of thirty percent of ten fucking stories. They get pushed onto one card who A._J.. vers endangered burn. Hey becky versus surely hey we got brown versus Barron Corbin will none of these stories are really being flushed out. We have one person becky he lynch who just making a name for herself on her own on twitter but we have no real one story the same thing about Vincent man and stone cold. We said this off air bits McMahon in stone cold was such an intricate storyline in the W._W._e.. C._W.. Fabric factions came off of those two people feuding you had remembered the union when it was kin Jim Rock and mankind and big show that was to combat the corporation which the corporation was <hes> Co created to get rid of Stone Gold Steve Austin. You know what I'm saying so it's this I wanNA do stolen. I want to go to Wrestlemainia. I really WANNA go to Wrestlemania but I want to go to Wrestlemainia and tell people I'm going to see you. Fill in the blank versus fill in the Blake and again it can be becky lynch versus Rhonda it can be the McMahon's verses delete it can be the four horsemen women versus the four horsewoman it can Burgon oh versus CIAMPA whatever it is. I want one story to be the thing I love it. I love Tom and I think it it gives credence to everything I've been saying tonight why they need people who've written successful like storyline driven television and why they need acting classes and why they need to kind of focus on that because that's how you and how People Watch television Asian if I'm sitting under watch two hours we and we if I'm sitting on to watch two hours or watch three hours. I'm sitting down to watch a television show or a movie essentially every night that I do it. You had to tell that story as such or Elsa doesn't make sense no but what I was gonna say by my kind of secondary wish on top of that wish and this is me being a little bit greedy. It doesn't even have to be W._B.. Somewhat right yeah I love it. You know me you know what I'm getting that like. I love it anybody that can figure this out. We'll be telling the better story it's that you can have various subplots and storylines but when I sit down to watch the show I gotta think I know that like Oh my God this week last week. They did this so this week X Y and Z could A._B._C. could happen but like I. I know we start watching. We're on smackdown AMIGO shipping anything. I don't know what it's going to happen and nobody knows nobody knows off or or you can lead it into Goddamn and I cannot late for tonight because fillon the blank. He'll is going to get his right right right like I can look forward to something to. It doesn't always have to be surprised me surprise surprise me surprise me it can be a great story line where the payoff is going to be awesome like you can have a storyline goto where you know next week on raw someone returns and they're going to confront the heel and you go oh shit going to do what is she going to do. Is Braun STROWMAN GONNA come back and flip. A goddamn truck again like that was cool. You know what I'm saying so I just I have to necessarily be because one thing why don't want to happen because what we've been talking about one thing I don't want this to become as far as what our desires are is vin through so booking right and then this and then guess what he was always in the box like <music> but you do that right like there's like a and I I keep hating a like it because like I said it's not the same thing but like when you watch randoms whatever like you don't always get that feel from those programs right like it's not always like Oh and here it doesn't feel formulaic right like it. It doesn't have to be but there has to be enough intrigue and suspense and the Green Watching episode. You know exactly like what's going to happen in this episode would've dexter or you know what exactly is going to have this episode of breaking bad but it's so compelling interesting in intriguing that you're okay with it and again you can say like we all know that Barron Corbin this week is going to get his ass kicked but the story leading up to is what makes us tune in and writes. The can't just go even at that even if we go hurry we all know bear in corporate going to get his ass kicked right or he's GonNa lose is GONNA lose power right but what's not intriguing. Entertaining aiming is a bunch of guys beat them up with stuff and a one our man stands on him. You guys aren't putting enough thought and that's just it. It's it's it's that they've kind of forgotten that they've been so focused on like live gate emerge and growing this network. They've Kinda forgotten that like your your commercial of the world to bring a new fans. Is this televised product. You've got a hit this out the homerun first before you can do this other crap so I think that's where they're man. You got anything else any secondary wishes. There's even outside at wrestling that you want to throw out there. I've got a wish I I wish that everyone has a very special in meaningful holiday and everyone is safe and everyone you know get into a little bit of trump also don't go to jail <hes> definitely trouble in if you go to jail they man don't call us. I ain't got bail money. We don't have yeah that's why you should give us a dollar. Is You'd have to bail money here. We go pay it forward right donate money. We can bail out your friend. You know pays back the bill of course right. We will be back next week with some resolutions.

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The Rack Extra: NXT Takeover WarGames 2

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The Rack Extra: NXT Takeover WarGames 2

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Parts of upper to me. This right here inside that champ that runs the cat Lai awhile. A while talk radio network. New you. Bring our starts. We get the twin yards. Kim. Ted can do to help stem. And good evening everyone. Welcome to the rack right here on while talk radio dot com, by of our friends over at gerwig dot net in b films do dot com m b twelve eleven and five dot com. I'm your host Lindsay ward me as always the ever faithful producer slash host slash handyman Rockin. We're here. Third night relies because well. Takeover. St. takeover happened. Wow. Long while talk radio record records show at Linz word on Twitter while talk radio issued com, which which that TV's retire live to join us in Iraq. And talk about the show that we just all sat here and watch two almost two and a half hours. Wrestling. Because wrestling, but oh, my God this show was amazing. Yeah. It was a great show that had a really good main event in an awesome championship match. And then great store channel. There's other things which will talk about too. But we have other people here we do have other people here, they need their intros. So well, I first things first. The N T analyst TJ. I just have a nap before we begin let Ron do all the plugs out. Okay guy. Not recovered yet. Hey, I mean, hey. The assistant the analyst node as of. From thinking about all that everything the intern king kittens. You make me so happy with the introduction. And then the second half hits. And it just breaks my spirit. Well, you broke all of our spirits. So, you know, turnabouts fair play that wasn't me that was up. You are blamed bring you are responsible for injuries. I can't be responsible for a Samoan girl who doesn't know how to you know, throw a punch properly. No, no. She knew how to throw a punch properly. That's all ruined. Throws. He threw it. Wow. Not a wrestling punch. But a punch she ruined. All of our Sunday's hold on. Those can't does not deserve the Becky Lynn steam, give him nine attack. Steam. Devils. We're going to have words later. All right, kin open laugh stupidly that. Anyway, we are here. It's not Thursday. So you're not going crazy and well take a Russo damn good. We just have to talk about it right now. Even though this entirely preplanned we advertise for it everything. So this was overall thoughts an excellent offering from inex- T. We would expect nothing less at this point. And a wonderful follow up to take over last year with gel agree with that. This was very wishers wargames takeover as an overall show. I don't know where I would write this show in terms of takeovers to the head good matches. But oh about this show that just won't go is like a blow away show, even though it was really good that make sense. You mean, it wasn't lit. We'll talk about what was lit in grow grow. It was totally lit. I don't know what you're talking about Lindsay. I hate you so much right, man. I hate you guys. 'cause bro, bro. Bro. No, you want to get some Friskies some broad some Budweiser's, bro. I am. So over this fucking, Nicole ready. Why? Because okay, we had our fashion moment. The first time he showed up never wanted. You. Don't wear a hat with a suit. I'm sorry. Bro. It's Brooke his Brock. He's not like most girls. I thought it was needs it. I thought it was broad as you know. He needs to hold on his his man boobs. No, no, nothing for you. All anyway, initial thoughts. Anyone else any takers, take your take your taker taker oh my God his taker and he take a leg over all of the show home. My god. Like, you said like easy said in the intro like we had to come on talk about it because it's so good, even though we announce this and the it was planned at this point. You can write that in the script. You can go ahead. Just put that right there on the format. It's so good. We have to come on and talk about it right away. Because it's true legal. Every x t takeover is true. I love how consistent they are in presenting paper views that we just know automatically. It's going to be good. Like just right off the top. Don't even have to worry about it on the amazing thing is the fact that this one only had four advertise matches to start with. Yes, Vogel talk about what else happened. But this one only had four and all four bit least repr-. Pretty good. If not, you know had us going holy shit. And yet tomorrow night, we've got matches that we go. Oh, well, I can go get a drink during that one. I'm sorry. The tag team match does not excite anyone will show, which it's wise prio. Anyway, let's get on with the show as he meant to their four advertisement is. But there was a fifth one at it as opposed to take place this upcoming Wednesday on TV. But instead it takes place ten night at are. You didn't take place tonight either as we've really call it a match bell rang twice. Yes. Having on appreciate they had some words and then on the main show Matt riddle calls out cash to have their match at bro wasn't with. It was. So let one needed the face. It was over that. Was it Matt riddle Whins brow? Live Lou, I mentioned this during that what was called the match your member time you remember the time in which caches Sona was actually supposed to. Be thing. Yeah. And then he never lost his weight. So he still not thing. He left and came back, and he still hasn't lost the weight and not that there's anything wrong with him. You know, not losing weight. He looks fine. But you know, it's I think they want him to drop a few pounds, and he's not willing to do it. I'm not sure whether they brought him back. I think he's more player coach. Yeah. I think he's more enhancement talent. Well, well, he's the quality hand that they're keeping down in the next t- to work with the younger talent to help guide them through the process. I think that's what his was at this point because we've described him as a gatekeeper before the he's generally the first few like, he's riddles first few. He's been the first feud for few guys coming into annex t it's a good. It's a good warm up to get them used to the system, you know, his like far as weight issues for him. That's been a consistent. That's why he was let go the first time because he wasn't getting into better shape. But he's still a really solid worker. And we'll talk about issues throughout the night. So yeah. Wins on his next takeover debut quickest annexed takeover match ever because his lip bro. Move on just move. Why bro? Wrap for that the entire night. So just be prepared. You know what I work on fraternity row? I hear it enough. All right bro-, isn't there? Next was the women's title match, the two very women's JV too. Sane versus baiser. They were shenanigans. There were so many shenanigans. And there was a key WI fi involved. There was an angry Kiwi WI fi. So as we previewed we knew the two four horse women would get enough. They did early led to an early pinfall or airlift submission victory for Shanna Baseler. Then things got little bit Kersey. When you think they're done figuring out the side of the ring. They just keep figuring figuring out what to do on the side of the ring DDT. It was painful of float over from soup from suplex DDT kudos fish shayna for taking that Bom. Yeah. Yeah. She didn't did she jumped down on all women at one point. I would the she Saint got the second fall to both tied up. And then it was just an all out fight. And this matchup overall had a different feel from everything else. They've done before this felt more like a fight. Right. Yeah. That just sorta have them all beat the crap out of each other big shot after shot and they delivered in this matchup. And you mentioned q Dakota Kaya she came out after she had enough of watching the two other four horsewoman get involved, and she took the beating and then either Shirai prettiest moon salt ever. Oh my God. In gene in. I will I will give credit to take on this one. Not only was it the prettiest moon salt, but she did it in skinny jeans. How the hell can you do that? Who do you give credit to I thought it was taken that at that? No EEO, you know, on Twitter who said. Oh, I thought you meant who did it. Okay. That was Bush awry who did the most perfect moon Saul ever, please Charlotte take notice. Yeah. I mean, Charlotte's is pretty e os is just beautiful or just awning. I mean, just in jeans too skinny jeans, she did that girls about not to set from when we saw her in the may young classic cow effortlessly, and how quickly does she get up to the top rope to. Oh, yeah. That's like it's nothing. That's what makes it. So good is so quick she gives up sets herself and hits it like a lot of people take their time, which should clearly you should her. She's a neat if you just need to. She has the ability to get up there center feet hit and it's beautiful. The saying went to hit the drop to sorta hit it but baiser roller over the three count Cubano. Her shoulder was kind of up. It was a nice frapp pin in something that you don't normally see, and it was a nice little thing that shayna pulled out that I mean. Yeah, if you just ignore the fact that her left shoulder was about three inches off the met. It's still nice. And it was still kind of fun twist on what could happen. What did not help with the replays showing that the shoulder? Yeah. Yeah. But I think thinking go back and maybe use that as an argument to potentially get another match this. But we'll see I don't think you need of this. I think you got you gotta move on. Gotta get the coda in there. And she should be the next challenger. I think that's how they set it up or you wanna do. We'll get we'll be in the picture. I would save EEO for right around wrestlemainia. I really would you go. I'd like start teas that a little bit. But I would go ahead, and maybe move to to in there and have her few lists Lucena up until it's time to in there. And they're just let them rock and roll. So yes and still in obeys, lower your neck, see women's champion. What am I Idi? It's got points so excited. You just can't hide it. God damn finally finally you idiots third. Do something the last dam night. We've been there that next to last night. We've all had a team that's been there. Two months. It's been agony. Yeah. Yeah. My entire team vanish overnight. And they finally gave back to the mortar you'll have more tomorrow up tax. It was Allison black versus Johnny Gargano. First thing I noticed also black drop some weight this good and his little sparkly silver trunks. So somebody's getting ready for main rows call up on the same. Give me a want his jacket that was fucking amazing. And then speaking of jackets. All right, all that those who talk about Johnny Gargano, go. Timid Sean you fucking comic nerd iheart. You so much for those of you who may have who may not have noticed or we're just gonna pointed out anyway Johnny had teased earlier in the day a little change to his logo and he comes out wearing the fucking punisher logo on him. Of course, he does. I mean, it's it's not even that he redid his little one eye open face logo is not even that he redid it to look like the punisher skull kind of reminded me of the Leija voodoo logo. But it also. But also on the trunks is literally takeover. Exactly in the punisher font with do Sean with Johnny in the marvel font. If you notice that the very top it looked like the marvel logo, but with auntie, she's rice. Well, you know, when you gotta stick to these static, but the bad guy, that's what you do damn nerd this one was really good. I need about five. More of these the store. Retelling by both men wanting to hit their big moves really well done like Gargano was going for the DIY kick, and then black does sits down Indian style. And the running says hit me with your best shot. Gargano MRs roll up whatever. But it's like he's come hit me come at me. And then bro, come at me. And they did the same thing with the black, man. He said come on hit me, and he may duck Dave in win for pinfall, etc. But the the storytelling moments that at into matchup is elevated, this one beyond what you could imagine this just this one just had that personal feel to it. It wasn't to the level of of course, Tomasz, oh, and Johnny, but you could tell Johnny just this someone in his way Alastair is I'm getting you back for the month. You put me on the shelf and the yeah, the storytelling in this was just fantastic. And then it was of course, the story of the DT Johnny doing the dive out of the ring and hitting one which just looked absolutely sick. Some could say good Johnny Gargano sooner learning a lot from the heartbreak kid little bit little bit little bit. You can see you can see elements of Sean in there. Sean in the work at the performance center. See giant sustain their okay? Tell me what I do next. Right. Teach higham. I a Blake canvas teach me, you could tell they, and it's really good at helping Johnny Gargano progress. Would you think overall about this one? Oh my God. Like, I figure going into tattoo imagined the night. It's up there. We got a discussion to have. But it's up there as one that tops it. But yeah, this was a nominal like I I love the back and forth these to these two worked so well together a love the big spots. Gargano going for his suicide dive and catching the mid flight is such a brutal shot, and it's so well-timed the whole maj was filled spots like that the spot at the end is what made it though are talking about. So you have you have Alastair pick him up hit him with the black mass. The first time Johnny is laying on him on this. On his chest, yet, laying on his chest dead to rights absolutely out on his feet, and you have the Alastair poem BAC and just say, I absolve you of all your sins and MAC again knocks him into the middle of next week. Just the that little bit. They caught on the Mike was just be useful and sold at the end of how he does that fish pulling people up by their chin with his foot. Just how commanding black is there's it's a moment where where feels like he was towing within this entire Matt. As just deciding to end it now. Yeah, it's fantastic spot and the match on because over one it's respect to an opponent to have to deliver a Finnish twice before even trying for a pin? But also what if look into Johnny was just Johnny was intense entire match. God I need this need to watch his match. Again. I need to see it. Again. I need to take it in peace for peace. There's a lot to absorb and taken the just firsthand sing. Yeah. I feel like this is the perfect temporary conclusion to this entire story in just the follow through on. This story was everything. I mean from the way that they started this between Johnny Alastair way back win to Johnny tacking Alastair because again Elster got in Janis way to now where it's Johnny's just sort of almost taunting him in there wanting you shudder. This was just a fantastic through you had Alastair come back and have the exact response that he needed to have. Which is he came back pissed ready to burn the place to the ground and ready to kill Jonny. Which is how it should have been is. It's no, no, I'm not gonna forgive you till I beat the crap out of you for this. Because you this is your fault. There is no forgiveness until I get my until I get my revenge, which is how Alastair black should be appear. Here's the Allister's. Now, the number one contender based on how they were talking after that during the bachelor this was for the contender ship. So now, we will get Champa black again. I don't think any of us will grow about that. No. He never he never did get his rematch. Go. Thanks, johnny. This just in x Pac has support dog with them. 'cause can't leave the dog at home. Well, let everywhere with him about up next. We have the velveteen dream, brother. Take him. Tampa for the next eight championship. Brent go for doing it. Oh, come on. You know, you want to save. Yes. You can. Come on grow. It's going to be let you go so much. Come on. We're talking during the match he comes walking down in that at all. I can say God, we're is it even in the chat, cave it. Remember? The exact words used way. Was it wind dream comes crashing down, and it hurts inside. Yeah. It just like you were saying they did everything they could not to mention who it was. But God he just embodied literally. For one for a while. Like he's coming out as Hollywood HOGAN. He's got the lightning on type sees got Hollywood on his band, Dan as wearing the weight belt. And then he starts doing the manual 'isms. And he's going for a leg drop. And no, don't mention HOGAN domain, HOGAN, everyone else. Don't mention HOGAN. Don't whatever you do. Don't mention HOGAN. And then like five minutes later, he hoax out eight does the HOGAN comeback like, okay. Screw it. Just. He's hawking broiler just say it. We look like idiots if we don't the best of subtle thing. He did. He wore the NWF style shirt ova. Yeah. Leave it to dream leave it to dream. That's all I gotta say they were really good mean for man, who's only twenty. Okay. It's our cliche. But it's true. Okay. Into his credit? Every time I see or every time we see him. I feel like he gets better and better and better. This was his best performance today. Every time we don't get to see him wrestle a lot which is good. They've had they keep him as a special attraction. And so every time we do see him. He improves the performance improves the character gets ova as it were. And honestly, I feel like villa? Teen dream is trying to give taker a run for his money in terms of the biggest drama Queen in that company. And I think dream may overtake him. Okay. So here's going to be his issue and a mega pointed it out, not knowing it. How would you describe his move said? Oh maga-. The first character you ever made in smackdown. Vs raw petty of the modern games. Like, no this old school when you're a kid first time sitting down. I'm a give all the good moves. We give them a stunner the rock bottom. The pedigree all them. He's got lose of his own. But he seems like he has a lot of fun playing tribute to other performers and that is going to be his down side at some point when he gets up there because you can't do everyone. Stick up there. It's great for takeovers specials. But at some point he's gonna have to define his full move set it worked for Santa for a while. And where's he now? Retired acting it worked for soon for a while. I think it could work for dream not permanently. But it would buy him enough time to figure out his move set as it were. But for him. I think what's gonna play in his favor as there's so many people who were short of craving nostalgia. That is. It's like he's willing to hit that nostalgia factor in buy into it. And do enough of it that it's like he pulls the good parts of it. And I mean, listen, I'll be real I feel like he's doing the HOGAN thing to mock HOGAN because I think comments that HOGAN made like what wild go year ago something like that where he wanted to manage dream or he liked dream or he said something about dream dream ever since then has been emulating HOGAN. So I'm not sure if he's trying to complement HOGAN or mock MFA like he's mocking him a little bit with it. But I mean, I feel like it plays enough into that. Nostalgia factor that it could help him because it's it's also in Los Angeles in all neither playing the Hollywood angle of the just the location. Yeah. I'm going to say, it's a bad thing. I'm just saying at some point it, it's a limitation. It has to evolve. But they had a hell of a match. This is great. Yeah. Okay. We got we got we had some fun early on doing HOGAN spots in the leg drops all this. And then they just took out the blocks in ran. This meant shouldn't have been this. Good. But it was no the thing is the thing. No, no, velveteen match should be this good. Like every like every time. Like he puts on a match that we did not expect to be good. Like I've learned now that any of my expectations for one of his matches needed like to not his higher. So here's some subtle things. Like about two one was when the dreams had been came off and Champa was touching it. So velveteen goes over to Goldie. Reason you had the Bernhardt ring finger forest body figure for in the rain, you had everything you could imagine an if you like near falls. Let me tell you something brother they had lot. And then some in this one so made two point nine nine nine nine nine. Oh, it was great joy. But we had announced announcers involved. It was. Yeah. It was screa-. They drew Champa pulled up the the padding on the outside the spots there. Everything else. Just it's been really good. I well want want this. I'm trying I'm trying I'm trying to think this is all kind of kind of blurring in my head again. That's way, those two sort of like it's a blur blur. All right. This was a really good match to really fun match. Champa? Still your champion dream myth dri missed the boat on the outside. Because of course, he did because she was hanging over the side of the ring is going for the. The the Trump he missed hit the outside and champion finish from the win. It was just really good like toward the end. We also had a spot where Champa took a shot at Morrow. Just remind everybody. Hey, I'm the asshole here. I think it was Greg as Mara was talking about. I think it's like what what's going to happen. You know, or woods. It's gonna take the beach you off or something like that. And to hurt him. And he's like, hey, hey, note, what does it was in? The also had mentioned something about like Champa being despicable estimate. Be just moments before that. And yeah, it's kind of like I heard you the crowd reaction to jump going for Morrow was everything because the crowd was like, oh, no, no, no, sir. That is too far. You do not touch him our hours Chapa was running around with one boot. Yeah. Yeah. He landed. He was selling up. The fact that he landed awkwardly when they did the flip to the outside and he landed on his foot, and he took his boot off. And it's like, oh, no. That's never good. This never good sign, and then he was running around without his boot because selling sewing, so you think we're running into the mean, he's only twenty three years old, right? All his media conference. Call right now, AAA test remind themselves have velveteen dream is twenty three years old. His scared think where he's going to be it scared. Her think where he is now. Think we're running the mean you think that's what we're doing. They know the mean, it's not just us win his birthday. I feel like hunter is hyper aware of everything out there. That's related inex- exte- like he knows all the jokes. All the memes. He probably listened to this show. No, really. I have two words for you. That can reemphasize that fact lip bro puppet age puppet. Which was lip, bro. So triple h was the mole along. Aaa Felicisimo high hunter, we all. Thank you. When he's not running a show. He's sitting there on Twitter going. What are they saying? I mean seriously feel like he he is so keyed in to pop culture and everything because it's like again, he has young kids. So he's gotta be right. He's got to be the cool, dad. So he's Cade in everything. And he's he's clued into that. He's clued into all the memes everything like that. So, you know, of course, if it's resting related. He's gonna be all over it. And if it's related inex- St. Yemen. He is there so chorus. He's looking at it like, oh my God dreams only twenty three years old. That's a great me. I also think it's kind of the idea that he has come up in that time when you know, the web has become a thing. So they started pushing the online content and yet he he's realized that oh shit. You know, it's not just able to be on TV anymore. You've got to be out there in multiple places. And so he's just staying ahead of the game. Whereas no offense, Vince is not quite doing that. Well, vinson. Fins, spence. And honestly the times of technology wise in some ways pass fence where I think Vince recognizes social media is a tool, but I don't think he's understands the full power social media in. So he doesn't really push. It is things are moving in a direction that I feel like a lot of people within WB are not familiar with. And therefore, they're not gonna look into it a hit, you know, putting your talent on podcast instead of local media. But whatever we're not bitter about that. Anyway. Or I should say they'll put them on certain podcast, but not every gas moving on. So it's stuff like that. You know, it's like in terms of technology, where it's like embracing social media using social media like we've seen what it can do for feud just in terms of Becky and Rhonda, for example, in how they've been exchanging barbs back and forth on Twitter and Instagram this entire time that the been going on, and it's added a another level of complexity to this you'd that. You don't get on TV 'cause you're getting those shots back and forth, everyday you're getting that continuity everyday. So it feels real feels personal. And so yeah, you know, memes being created about certain characters I can see how they would hunter would buy into that. Because it's just another level for him of, you know, a drawing in that fan base and connecting to that fan base and being able to incorporate that somehow into the product and into what they're saying. Or is like you said, Vince, doesn't the people under Vince don't do it. Except hunter take over like we have a takeover, but is the front office. And it's hunter who just liked takes over everything and start running everything that be thing. Is that possible not yet? But this was really really freaking good champion. Then we go to war games. Beauty there versus ricochet Pete done and the war raiders. Yes. Speaking of the other. Oh my God. He's only like twenty four or whatever Pete Daniel Pedone who did not get to wrestle much tonight. You sort of hobbling around on one leg 'cause again Brandt bright. Bright this. This matchup was wargin. They added a new like I understand the cage. Okay. They'll all get kicking the small cage and then get into bigger cases. I guess that's how we do things in WWF safe Rohr games. And you take all your gear into the cage apparently, clean championships. Yeah. That's Pete Dunne's. He doesn't give it to anybody. It's his so we have team continuity with everyone wearing war paint their matching y'all. It was cute is lit. Though when looking at ricochet, it looked like he was wearing masking tape rather than paint. Yeah. It wasn't a good luck. But they had a hell workings the insane spots. Yeah. Hanson should not move the way. He does. I'm just saying. Backs Handspring him spring Baco what he looked. He looked like it was ricochet in the ring just like to ricochet together side. No, I don't think I don't think the warriors. I feel like they're violently offended at how pretty Adam Cole is in there doing everything in their power to make him less pretty like a couple of weeks ago. They lawn darted him into a semi tractor trailer. And then tonight, they did a garbage cans stink face in which RoH through not placed through Hanson and his backside onto Adam Cole's face in. The only thing between them was a trash can his has his face. You'll really wanna flatten. I mean, I get it. He's pretty you're jealous. But come on you have to admit this is the first time I've ever really seen an extended version of the war raiders. Holy shit. I wanna see more. Yeah. This is the real the first real exposure. I've had to them where they've gotten a nice long match. All my God. God anymore power slam power bomb. That was a spot that I just ever seen. And I watched it and my head just gonna caulk the side. Like did did that what the human? I crashed at that moment for a second. Can we not go ahead? Allowed to be that powerful. You're just not. Can we talk about the tower of doom at least that's what I think it was followed by the cannonball by Ricky shea into the people bile can we talk about that? 'cause holy shit. It was the tower of doom that everyone was that for then you had I you on Colin British on the top crawling around on their like, what are they gonna do? Are they trying to push for Cochet out? Because apparently if you go out you lose so they're trying to push them out. We're gonna say was holding on then either the tower doom spot with everybody. And then you go over up there. He's still up there. Double moon saw onto everybody later. Holy crap. I liked the psychology that Nigel throughout their of yet. You see them on top of the cage. And you're wondering what's going on? And then when they try to throw off how brilliant of a maneuver that is I thought it was a nice little touch to the whole thing. Yeah. There's some logic. And there is some actual planning going on here. Just we decided to climb up and oh, wait. What are we doing here? Can we talk about how undisputed ever had their own chairs? Yeah. How'd you sneak your own branded folding chairs into the under the ring for the event? I don't think they them in. I think they very proudly walked them in. We're very loud about it and showed off their beautiful chairs to everybody. Because that's who they are. They're that big of a dick that they need their own personalized chairs, and nobody else can touch them or have them. See the only thing that would have been better is if Pete done had his brand on on the tables, just bruiser weights spelled out across across it. No, he needed a little charm on the chain. We have Singapore canes. We head tables. We had chairs and had changed it. And you manipulation this kinky. Like when Pete done got in this match, this thing kinky, really really really it got got kinky when fish decided he wanted to be in a cage longer. Yeah. We're yeah. Through the QA. It's like win win fishing and done got involved in this whole thing. It just all went downhill so fast like so so fast. There's just the kink factor went up tremendously. So we know we know who's to blame on that roster for all the KiKi stuff going on is Bobby fishing feet done got it. We also know the Kylo Riley is not good with chains will told you. He's. Five minutes later. He's still trying to apply chain to someone's foot flesh leg the bottom. You don't know how to do that. And that's who Kyle Riley is I'm sorry. He's the bottom of the we then had all eight minutes in between the rings. That was such a nice spot right there to to signal the kind of end game when you have the four guys on either side of the ring they walk up there just jawing and then as Morrow just beautifully called it. It became trench warfare. Meanwhile, my idiot self sitting there going hug it out. You think she's making that up? That's a true story sitting here standing on get on. They didn't get out on. But in the end, Pete done ricochet pin. Adam Cole one two three. And those are your winners were. Pete gun in the war raiders, they win wargames to. Yeah. Another one of my idiot's got points Hove of amendment hell of it was now. Now, here's here's the question who takes match of the night. Bro. It was lit. Now, no rock. Shut your damn mouth. Vella teen dream and Taussig Champa. That's my like, I said like I get I almost choline flip between the two, but between that match and black and Gargano, but I had more. I had more fun watching the championship match. I think overall match Champa and dream. I think blogging Gargano had maybe one or two betters spots better fetter like moments better better story. Yeah. But I would say ciampa and dream had an overall better match from from beginning to finish the. I light. I think I like Champa and dreamed is a little bit better in terms of the match, but I need to go back and watch Gargano and black again just to pick up on everything 'cause it's kind of almost a little bit of sensory overload there. See I'm going to go with Dreamin Champa, although I'm not gonna lie. The the war games match is also really up there too. I mean, all of them are of really up there, which by the way, poor one out for poor Roderick strong who has now lost both wargames matches in annexed WWE history. So you think it was crazy where we saw apparently there are virtual reality. Character cameras set up inside the war games. Kate O yet at one point when they did the double suit or the super plex bought a Hansen with right up against one of the VR cameras. Yeah, you're going to see that. Apparently, there's new technology for the eight hitting sue so see how looks on TV health. Shout helluva show. I feel I know we shouldn't say this. But I'm going to say this because I'm that I feel just really really really bad for the people that have to do her series tomorrow. Because again, you have to follow this. And I'm sure they're gonna live up to it. And they're going to do everything in their power to make survivor series as good as takeover. But this was just a to me a really good offering again from inex- t. You're going to see a definite difference in booking and storylines and performance. So overall, the show was lit Frau. Totally let. But one living now, we're not done. He's not going anywhere. He's not going anywhere because we're going to play for night. We're gonna play for night with Rennes coming up legit like. So don't leave. This thing here following with friends. It's gonna be CB radio where the internet probably dragged on that too. So he's here all night. 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Ep 199: NXT TakeOver & Dagwoodin

Tights and Fights

48:11 min | 3 months ago

Ep 199: NXT TakeOver & Dagwoodin

"Pau. Snow Perfect Russell. Dad. Khan! Aw. AW Welcome sites invites the show that discusses with sincerity and hilarity deserve. Yeah Honey I gave up weeks ago. Given up. I'm how lovely in your house. You and I'm joined today by my. Conversation in your Blouse Daniel Rapper. And the Kelp. Dream. Oh! Maybe sad, but I I. I'm so confused by all of that stuff so. That's why I've been talking about it on the pot because I think a couple of people have wondered why we haven't covered it. There's nothing new to cover, and that's the kind of story where it's like I'm really GonNa need like a reputable news team to act journalists to deal with this more It lands on our Buchan shoulders his. That's what we do. We're not. We're, not vice so. We do not. Like an actual journalists to get through this. And Not one that is actually on WWe's payroll, but they try and convince you. They're not on the payroll by when they show them onscreen, noting the other outlets which they work like which is a great new thing that doing. Oh, PAT McAfee. If the McAfee show interesting. That's where he's off anyway, sorry. Screen Junkies even though I'm doing this podcast. Everything is stupid anyway we should. Sure. Let's talk about an exceeded their latest takeover this week. It was in your house. And before we talk about any of the wrestling, which is both a second, third and fourth place to the number, one story coming out of in your house, which is the return of Todd, pettingill? turned. From a Nerdier Guy, I mean he wasn't Sean Mooney. Sean Mooney was like the. Guy, but he's taught pet gillies kind of like a little like early nineties. KINDA DIV everybody. This is Todd Pettingill, and we are days away from having a House party that would make a kid and play jealous. This Sunday as the doors to our house temporarily quote the superstars of Annex. T take over your house with an event twenty-five years in the making. Will Tomasso Chevy able to vic. Carry and Cross. Can Rearrange as Yoshimura Roma Queen. With all the lights turned on. The spotlight shines on an undisputed dream in the first ever endings. T back lot. Bro, all these and more knocking on the door Sunday as we take over in your house? Todd and Gill was the person we had in the UK so ted. Talk is hosted the you a I don't know if it was UK specific, but he hosted the show that we got in England. So I I had a huge crush on top, and I was a small child. Let's go ahead and hear more about this. Yeah, no, 'cause I was a terrible person. Like he's so cute I come from the Joey. Mcintyre School of crashes. The? Attic, of a human, that looks like when you brought him home to meet your mom, he might cry the more attracted to him as a preteen to see him now. He looks like the husband on real housewives. That has the most questionable job they're just like. Oh, he's in real estate. I mean let's not talk about PK, but yeah, I see. Books. Industries. Exactly, oh! I thought talked to great work. I really appreciated todd and his big. Dj Energy like local radio. Dj Energy Regular. Jay. That's not the kind of energy. Have a serious episode and didn't get to get on my Dick Tuck out so I. Guess we're doing it now. Always Room this? It was always rimpoch. For for that the J that is Todd Patent Gill Yeah, the entire framing device of keeping it in the nineties was great, including the the sponsor bits that that was I was in high school when a lot of that was happening and I would. When there was a pay-per-view 'cause we had a blackbox. Don't tell anybody I would get a huge. I would make huge cold cut sandwiches and I would eat like like something that would make. I Would Dag. What a Sandwich! But it was all roast beef, corned beef and Turkey and Ham. That's it no lettuce knows. And then a bunch of Doritos I would make like two of them when I watch I. Don I wonder why I have to lose now? Not surprised about learning about the eating poop. That's on the Sunday. ME. Don't knock it till. Eaten my delicious, incredibly healthy protein. GonNa follow up with Pope like? HOW DARE! That sandwiches. From God's. To our grass it to help us stay. Yes. It's like well. That was a delicious entire Turkey. Let across. I would actually pay money to do that. Let's make that a stretch goal for this year's drive like I WANNA do exactly, but I mean, but back to wrestling I guess what? I do I think that we know about southpaw and all that stuff and it's like i. that's the kind of astounded that I did not the of Daljit. That's hey, remember these people that you really liked back then They can't do any of that shit now, but they here. which is. How it works now, so if you're GONNA go like that's the kind of nostalgia that I'm into where it's like. Oh Man, like you really lake. You took me back to all of this stuff like I want them to do. The two thousands were. It's all like ads I. Want you know what I mean like that's? That's great. That is that is. I'm very theatrical human That's the kind of stuff that hooks me man like that's what I love about. That's what I love about wrestling or one of the things that you can do things like that, and it's not questioned you can do a tongue in cheek, or whatever, but like well fuck unbeliev anything man. We're playing. For Mike what's his name anchorman like just put it. In we'll say. Ask questions. You know I didn't realize so when they were talking about the online stuff Alicia DX at the at the old. Compaq Tower Computer I did not realize that the Road Doug Brien Armstrong had. Accidentally knocked Santa Claus off of his roof and killed him, and is now slowly turning into Santa. Claus, because that's what's in the contract, and then by this, Christmas may be crotch chopping to all the little children around the world wrote. Dog is in charge of Christmas. Then like. Maybe this is a good year to call off Christmas because he's in charge annex. T now, and it's like not my favorite. Already. You've already ruined so many things I love roadlog. Please don't ruin Christmas Lake. time-line. Santa Claus. He just wait long. Literally has his name down like he literally has his name down. Are we going to try and exercise with me and what you imagine? Your child in bed. And it's December twenty fourth. It's late at night. And there's a snow fall out the window. It's very quiet and you hear like A. He and then it's something light landing on the roof and then you hear during. Their whole only. Now. Turner. and. That's when you know Christmas has arrived. Bring, up Rudolph get. Their biggest star, he was the main attractor. Doesn't own Santa Claus Red Nose? Rudolph the reindeer. An Art, fucking cupid and vixen and Donner. BLITZEN! Okay. Say Dash but i. also Rasha got homage. To sing the song. Nick I dash. You remember Prancer you met at the family reunion last year. was He kept asking if we were share everywhere, cousins. That he was asking a lot of a lot of his female covid that. Anyway. He's not wearing is loose sweatpants anymore so. It'd be okay. He's a doctor. There was wrestling at that show. Oh! Yeah Shirai one the NFC women's championship after jumping, she left the house. She jumped up off the house. Look at. Gap. Jumped up a house passed. In any. The House. It was a great match. She was great. It was and I even liked the ending which. Is So unlike me these days, but I really liked the ending. I thought everyone looked good. Obviously Shaul. It was Never GonNa get pinned because Charlotte will never get pinned again ever as long as she lives. Rea- silic strong because it took two of them to hold her down and she can come off. Say That like Oh, so she had to hold me. And you had to pay me at the same time just to beat me, so I think as long as they pushed their angle, she still looks great. And then Oh got to win the belt, which was well deserved fantastic, so I liked it. Yet. Annexed man they just really. You know we can make fun of Jojo dog or whatever, but for the most part they have been getting it right since. What like twenty fucking fourteen twenty thirteen? I distinctly remember when I first moved to L. A., and I was living with two two other marks, and trying to convince them that women's wrestling is good now. Maryland shut up. I love those days I. Remember Them Great. Wait. No, that was last week. No! We'll get to eat w short. But the the the great is that not only do the women close the show, but they open the show as well medium shotsie, blackheart and Teague, and knocks picking up a victory over Kansas Laura. Dakota kyw and Raquel Gonzalez that was a great opener like the opener was great great. Good stuff in the middle when might atwood. Big Sandwich with seedless Ryon, either side and then rare roast beef. Turkey Ham and corn beef, and then some tomato top. That's it. That's all united. You had a big minute maid pink lemonade during the side. Sweetness to counteract the saltiness of the meet. The brightness. Yes, that's true true. Condiments. Salt, acid, stuff and heat. I've seen that instagram post about it, and and these these days that we live in. That's all you have to do now. So as long as you've read impossibly shed and Instagram Post. You are an expert on everything and therefore Daniele and chefs. Sometimes it also makes you a hero. This is true. This is true. Such a great time to it's such a great time to be alive like. Great fucking kidding me. Relief Stephanie Release that thing that's like. It's not enough to just say. Stop is not enough to just to just put out a statement. You have to actually do something. And then she referenced Markings Letter From Birmingham Jail, and I was like all right. I see you. And then she kept talking about how wwe is going to do. Some I think she was mentioned. What that something is she just? Britney on her workout mix, and like I love that song. It's an underrated Britney. Deep Cup Lake. Let's just tell people to do something. And then she just didn't, but she told them to. Yeah, but she told them to, so. She thinks that's enough of question. Yes, is it about wrestling? Wrestling, but in a larger sense about all of us. The Hollywood backlot brawl, which saw Adam Cole retain his NFC championship over velveteen dream and saw was kyle. O'Reilly and and fucking Rodney Strong Bobby Fish Kidnapping I. Is Kylie Riley is still in Hollywood filming movie. I always mix up the two of them. I can't remember who is who. Can't remember, but it was that bad. I don't think it was good. So my issue was that regal made that big deal about it when they were planning, when he agreed to the match, and agreed to Kohl's terms over zoom, which was the durable. And then he was like. I agree we have to do this match. I will find a venue that is like enough and a suitable for both of your spectacular talents, and the importance of this championship, and then the venue that he found was a car park i. what you said you gotta find like a very important especially I knew you. Guys are in parking lots literally every. Cars are getting blown up. Like oh I'm GonNa find somewhere worthy of the championship, but like outback base out back. Stop just go around. We already paid for days worth parking, so they lot is empty and took the shine off. Did take the shine off I, made me sad. Because if that's streams last match, which is the room? Is! He's going up. A rumor that he's going upward over off down like it's one of the three. That was his last. Overall down. If. It was one of those like if that was his last match. Then that fucking sucks. It's dumb like he's a brilliant wrestler. And I wanted him in a ring, having a brilliant wrestling match with Adam Cole, and instead I've got oded someone calling Uber. No Fuck. Fuck? Made me so mad that made me. Throw dog called a fucking bad famous road dogs Antiga Nova, Pizza. Thing. They met to call an audible and. Couldn't hear. NEWBURGH! Route. Somebody called. Maybe out of cold. And Extinct Championship. Do you remember the original Hollywood back lot wrong? It's not a good no I was like. Why would you do it again? The two great in ring performers. They didn't do this. Song. Know you know who it's. Threes men in the back. Who Ching A computer going like? I. Don't even think that was a bit. I think that's the computer that show Michael still uses. Bit. beat Johnny Gargano to retain the North American Championship. A very good match told a very good story. They're both very good and they're very good. Boys who in love. They were my children. It's very good. Boys Erica points I feel like I'm an older enough. Then both of them that I could be like I wish I was your father. Because I would praise both of you. And you? We would go to McDonalds afterwards. That's nice. Jody Johnny may have like one Burger without the button. Because, he won't flurries so bad like he wants to. Order fries and he would not to order extra fries. Only. Get a small when I should get him medium. Because Johnny's not gonNA, eat it. But. He's GONNA eat some of my fries raw, and he get nuggets with his because he doesn't like him as much, but he knows johnny does. Johnny won't order them. Yeah, it's GonNa get just got. Of Nuggets. HUGGIES FA Johnny. French. which will be my next novel plays look. Look out for that. I just am wondering league every restless McDonald. It would be like I just feel like that's a whole episode in an up itself when we just wonder what everyone would order. Okay, but no. Let's let's let's delve into this. I think that triple H is a go to the Jack in the box. Eat jack-in-the-box tacos man. Probably is. Well, I think I think Damian preschools such a say, but he only gets bowls. We already now we already know that. What's his name sexy? Only it's boss so. By the way just going back to priest for a second he, so he lost to. And he did he lost by. Point at my Dick. Dick Ballot. He lost to DICTA. Corner McGee really did enjoy fins briefs. I just want to put that in the lovely metallic. This week's episode they were a lovely Pant well-done a full turtle head in that match, and then he at the end they did they were. He's doing his his finger guns, but then daming priests during his archer of infamy, but they cut like he finished it, so they use it in packages on and exte- the next day, and then now I guess is Damian priest a face that they turned face that, but also to now Finn is like a Weiner because. became like the good guy in cam the. Story tween alert right since he came back because he kicked johnny in the face when Johnny Russillo fe Janis Vince role now is to be Johnny's left Johnny. It's almost like punk Jason. Without going I hate the management part like he's just like I'm here for me and I'm the best that I'm GonNa win, but without having to call triple h poll, 'cause that's not gonna fly anymore. He'll have to lean more into the hillside. Against Keith. I genuinely thought he was gonNA kill a cameron crimes. He just looked fucking pissed. At I just when he did his Gras at the end I'm like Oh, he is high. The gross scares me often. It's good. But it's also requires him to be so controlled. It requires so much. I know. The nineteen sixteen, or whatever yeah, but it's like. Whenever he does it when he clearly. I'm projecting what it looks like. He's pissed off. It looks like he's going to kill. Could we turn the? FYNT hear me out. The Fed up Heatley match into a Johnny Gargano WanNa Poem Match. If only I could watch Keith League carriage. Kano around like a little backpack like. It was the cutest thing when he had to candice and Johnny on him a couple of weeks, and it was like he was carrying baby. Koalas, it was. It might have been one of my happiest moments I was. She's like I want that. I Want I. Want that for me I wouldn't be the first person who gets Johnny Gargano off. The poll wins I think you have to like. Throw Giardi Gargano at your opponent. dodgeball but with Johnny Gargano. But, with all alternately keithly could stand in the middle of the ring with a big tray of nuggets, and whoever off the nuggets first loses. Because we've been eight in the Nagy's and Janis wants the Nargis, but he conned of the nuggets, and probably like I love Nargis. So. It's like who's going to break a maybe like there's some unbranded Nargis fin because like that, it's just protein. Think he orders at McDonald's is MC Shaker Salads. He somehow gets them up like a secret menu now. They don't make them anymore. I'd like a salad and a cop. If he walked into a McDonalds, he would gain five pounds he's going to. And saying can I have a chicken breast and then running for the door moronic. Day Coke is once a week trade. Rules. Corner. So not. Know about by secret. Gargano Laura got their wind back on an xt by by beating Leeann and Yelm I. Love the finish to this. was like so super. He'll super face super. He'll. I enjoy the storyline I. Don't know if this is the blow off. If it is I'm Kinda okay with it. Like let them move onto other things that everybody move onto other things. But I mean they're so? It's so entertaining, and they're all so good I just makes me happy to see good people doing good things together and getting trying to do them. I agree with you if they decided to do this. And like this was the end of this story line I would rather do this than having go on too long because we always know that they come back and revisit stuff so this will be done again in like a year or two years, and I would like it if that one eight comes back our last memory of it wasn't. It started out great, and then petered out and kept going for two months up. I would like it to be like Oh. Shit I love that run it ended on a great note. I would love to see what they do now with whatever it is, they're doing with their character. Based world are both the BOOT and. And the chicken based snack. I would like to see what that looks like. Because you know, there's so many matches where I'm like these two people are great, and they do great work, but I don't WanNa. Fuck and see it ever again I'm done. You ruined Doug Life, born, Nugget bread. And when I eat, I eat bugs. Me No everybody thought about. Dakota beat KC CATTON's Aro which was a really fun match Casey looked great, and she may feel may be coming up later on in the Free County. Bring I do feel like she has. She won a match since she came back I. Don't think she has right I think they might be punishing her a little bit for taking time off. because. They were pushing us so hard when she first signed up. They thought they were getting an easy to sell crossover star, and then she got also there's. Yes and she got her that one time, and then was like about, and that was always very murky like there was no real clear announcement, she just it was a rumor, and the People's reporting that she was done, and then she just disappeared for a long time, and then she was just back again i. hope it's good. Because I liked her a lot when I talked to her I liked Tara Lot. She's really smart. I do think that the match didn't fit like even if she hasn't won. That that didn't feel like a punishment match that felt. Dakota kind needed the wind to sort of get being teen her heat after losing on. Ruby riot sense, you know, let's let your away now. You back and we're going to punish you for a while. You'RE GONNA. Lose a bunch of matches which is gonNA. Keep trotting you out to lose stuff. There's a whole bunch of people behind those. Barriers. Wanted someone to get beat I. Don't know I. Don't know I'm speculating because. She was gone, and now she's back I like rollout. Hope the GonNa do something fun, but also like she's young and she has. You know miles to go. On Yeah Yeah. Yes, yeah, the other big news. L. HEE-HO DEFEND TASMA. Is No more. His name is Santos Escobar. Yeah. He's been abducting everybody. Your asses grass so. A lawnmower we saw that, so we saw the thing. Triple h addressed the drake maverick of it all. And any did say that leg. Hey, he was actually fired, but we gave them the option of staying in the tournament, and then he turned it into something and then we decided to use it as a storyline. Blah Blah Blah. Yeah, he also said lots of companies had to fire people just to stay afloat because of Corona, and they were in the same position which is. But you know none of none of what comes out that man's mouth. In character or as. As Whatever the fuck is of w COO I don't I. Don't believe any of it, but please continue I I have right right, so I wanted to bring that up. Because I know, that's something that people have been talking about so like. Yeah, he did address it. It has been acknowledged. I guess take that as you low well. If you WANNA talk about more, we have a place for that. It's facebook, twitter, instagram, and discord, the holy four, and you can find the links to those in our show notes. When we come back, we're going to talk a little WWe, a little eighty W and a lot about this great sandwich I. You see when I was kid. That's coming up next on Tyson fights. It's called. We're the host of my brother, my brother and now nearly ten years into our podcast. The secret can be revealed all the clues in place and the world's greatest treasure hunt can now begin embedded in each episode of my brother, my brother and me is a micro clue that will lead you to fourteen precious gemstones all around this big beautiful blue world of ours, so start coming through the episode's. Let's say starting at episode. Episode One oh, one on the early episodes are problematic, so there's no clues those emphasis. No, no, not at all the better ones, the good ones clues a hoy listen to every episode repeatedly in sequence laugh if you must but mainly get all the great clues, my brother, my brother, it's an advice show kind of but at treasury hunt mainly anywhere you find podcasts or treasure maps. My brother-in-law rather made the hottest on. Ties. Own. Welcome back to tights and fights I'm how Loveland I'm joined today by. and Lindsey CALC so much stuff happening on the main roster that we're not gonNA really talk about. There's not much to say. There's one thing I would like to say that is I. Believe Ole wwe championships, and currently the W. Women's championships are on non white women. Which is pretty great, the. Say that very much because that was. What was GONNA talk about right? I don't even know if they knew they did it. Like. They did do it. Why would you tell them? They'll have changed by Sunday. You said it so now it's in the universe. Done. This goes up on Saturday. You're right and we'll be done tomorrow, but we will have had a glorious couple of days. Yeah, that felt good. That felt like a good thing. We have like Oscar and Yoshii and then we've got Shida over on a W. and. We've Got Bailey's too. So I mean helps She's Bailey Pamela Joe. straps deserves a dose straps I saw that trending, and it made me so happy, and of course our beloved. Pamela writes only. Go So. We'll get into that. Another week arouses yet. And then your wife has a about again and your wife always look so good with a belt makes me happy while and. Me Displaying Growth. It was really funny for me to talk about people being my wives. Like a couple of years ago, it's significantly less funny now. So I'm coming at now, tights and fights and saying. I'm sorry. No one is my wife. Did it sorry well done done? But that said you're happy that Sasha. Has a belt. She have one because you enjoy her work in the ring. She is one of the best wrestlers working as far as being able to tell a story. In remark added framework whatever again. I've spoken about like. She's gotTa work on some acting stuff whatever? But it's yeah. I'm always happy for her to have a belt. I always think that she should be doing work. It's one of those things where it's like. When you see someone. This is working black shit when you see someone who has all of the tools for success in wrestling. You get something really good, and it is often I. Love Naomi I think Naomi's amazing I have loved the opportunities that they have given to her because she deserved them, she she's earned them. It is real world dumb, but Sasha has not been given the Charlotte Treatment I'm sorry she deserves it aside from being amazing in the ring. She's very good storytelling. In, wrestling which I think is much harder. She was one of the first women's match of the year. I'm hoping that when she does the main delorean that they start to. Make that reverberate into opportunities. I'm not saying she's going to have the greatest match ever because that only shared our. That's only for Adam Copeland on. I, do you know I? It's. It is one of those things where I'm like man of Snoop DOGG'S FUCKING COUSIN GET! WHO CAN FUCK It should not take the baby Yoda Rob. To get what she deserves. CNO Lake. If you've got to get baby Yoda to give you a rub. I mean. I would like rob from baby Yoda. Who wouldn't lake shouldn't take for? We'll bring baby Yoda under this for good. Noted Fan of Nargis. But it shouldn't take that. It shouldn't take something like that big to give Sasha the credit. She deserves which I. I agree with you I. Think it will. I think that will have an impact because they'll want to. Make the most of that, but it's fucking crazy. Culturally significant things happening to them as far as the reaction to that show. In the last couple of years and Yes man, she says words weird. People, do I say a lot of words? Weird but a lot of people who have been given the push were given when they were also saying words weird, and no one's fucking. Boo about it and so yeah. No I'm sorry I know I've been rambling. This is one of those things where you the I. Genuinely anytime, woman now is labeled as difficult I'm always like what does mean because when all of these cases come up with people being sexually harassed or not wanting to promote women, because it's not part of their boys clever all that stuff. One of the main things we hear about is that people who wind up stepping up and they're always many people never step up because it's fucking hard man and you risk your career, but one thing that we hear from a lot of people at step up was like. Yeah. They labeled me difficult in my career was over. Randy Randy. Bradford, but it's a real. It's a real thing runaway. Run Rodford because I. Mean I am a white woman and I hear the difficult thing daily. From! From the authors in my various industries I cannot even begin known for being. White and genial, but it is all the time as a woman. You hear it all and I can only imagine the added I cannot even begin to put myself in your position, 'cause. It pisses me off so unlike. Off An imagine being Sasha where it's. You're in such a public position, and you're seeing yourself being built up and you're seeing yourself getting the opportunities, and you know the older girls at home watching that and looking to you and your knock down like the way that she never successfully was able to defend the. Because every time she got the belt. They took it straight back off again, and she did it and she went along with it, and she did it and she went along with it. You know at that point. Maybe I would be difficult if that's what you want to call asking. A question is asking a question. Being difficult I don't know I don't know that all fucking sucks. It's terrible. Yeah. I. have nothing else to add outside of that had. This is the time. For you to take. Sorry hold on. Now don't do it no place. To love you too much for you well, no actually make fun of it because if you can do it, pink men will allow it. I did it, pitch. House that. We can't get out of this segment. Without without, you know, we can't get out of the. As, we call it in the tights and fights. Biz without the most important recurring segment in the history of our show ever where Lindsay gives us an update on what's happening in the eighty women's division, the most progressive company in wrestling's a change, the game and finally make it a level playing ground Lindsey. What happened this week? So the most progressive company wrestling that's going to change the game back to how the game used to be twenty five years ago. We had one women's match. With the same full women they show every week, so that was cool. Fun I thought it was a super match was NYLA. Rose's Penelope Ford versus Hikari Shida Chris Stat Linda. The thing I would like to note about this match up. Setting LII is not well. You know I do want to note the fabulous performance of the women in the match, but I would more importantly like to note the important commentary of Chris Jericho in this last where he put over the women's talent on the women's character. Counteracted Jr's blue fueled bullshit. By pointing out. The actual character attribute and their women's abilities. I loved him talking about Chris, Sutton, Wanda and her being an alien. Empowers sure alien powers I. Just think I don't need to tell me again. HOW STRONG SHEILA! How strong her legs August I don't need to know I. Don't need to be our big legs. Stop Bad dog newspaper on the nose that. Clearly. Then you've got Chris Jericho has do with Chris Jericho a man who decided to use his online platform this week not to spread awareness about what's happening in the world, but to complain about the customer service at ups. Not Without his issues, but when Chris Jericho is my hero on aws, because he's the only person putting over the women, skills, attributes and characters and building stories for me. Jay Go away. Please why Britain on commentary while she's enjoyed puck bright on commentary plea. Br I'm Jericho. I don't go, but like take jr off. Coventry for women's much as for the love of God. Please let me like put her on. Because you've built like it's very obvious you built your division around her like you have all of these other women on. It I. Don't think it's cool to build an entire division around one person especially when taking up two hours I shouted could have like three or four women stars. But if that's what you did, can we have her do commentary? Yeah, I don't even need commentary for women's matches. Just have come out and do some. fucking M J F Shit like combat on commentary and talk about whatever you they've got. She's doing her bits, but it's it's important to me. And we talked about this that they keep her visible and keep present while she's injured because she is so good, and she is vital to them, and they used to be better at doing that and I get it I actually agree that. If you're injured, you should probably get some title, and you can only do so much. They can't show that same montage every week and expect to get the same like pop out of it, but. Now is the time to be building. The rest of your women don't be like over. There was a much on doc doc on. Youtube and this is I know hal is talked about this a million times I shouldn't have to go and look you might, as it was this or something about a sandwich I can't remember which. mentioned the sandwich because it's. Something about because I. Feel like you had some sandwich. More about the sandwich, but I shouldn't have to go to your youtube show to find more of your women I, if I only watch AWA regular show, I can probably name Nile rose before Hikari and Chris allender like your swollen last week, but it was like souls in this week, and then that was it. You know like where? Where am I? Story lines sound like a broken record. You have great people. I want to see them. I won't more than one women's store. I! Won't one women storyline like? I get a match, but I don't get a storyline. You got any thoughts on what we've discussed. Connect with us on facebook, twitter, instagram and discord in our show notes. We'll be back after this with some things from the wrestling world that you should know about his Tyson fight. Hey everyone it's I. John Hodgman of the judge, Audrey podcast and I. Elliott Ceylan of the Blockhouse podcasts, and we've made a whole new podcast. 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Not Their partners music, which sounds like a little thing, but that used to always happen Nikki never to come out to her music. She came out to Cena's music. When they you know, it's like that's a big thing, but they come out to the music. That made me happy. And I just really really wanted to give candace massive props for her weekend at Bernie's ending where she worked like a guard s to pull off that were johnny was just holding her and lifting her arm that was magnificent and I. I loved it I loved that match, and they really did just want to give a moment to ripley for her dealing with the Robert Stone brand which I hate to the Robert Stone brand. But now if his drum crazy Matt Roberts stone brand, I'm suddenly. Superintendent tons I I'm just really fickle. Because I. Love Him now. I love him now that he's desperate and trying to find a new client and deeply loved rea- punched him in the nuts. Just been he kind of looked like he enjoyed it and I. 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Royal Reactions - The Spanish Announce Table - Episode 246

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Royal Reactions - The Spanish Announce Table - Episode 246

"And now an ad from dad right save money on car insurance when you bundle home and auto with progressive guy take these off right. What is this looks good wow? Where did you get this? I'm talking to you with the hair yeah. Where did you get good stuff and solid? That's not veneer that solid stuff progressive can't save you from becoming your parents but we can't save you money when you bundle home and Auto Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and other insurance discounts not available in all states or situations vanish announce table. Tom Was a big week of pro wrestling one of the bigger weeks of the year and we are going to cover all kinds of shit about it but <hes> before we do that what else is new with all tummy well. I'll tell you this much. It was not a busy week in the world and wacky world of pro wrestling with INNOC- takeover <hes> <hes> some headline news that will get into here in a moment and the Royal Rumble <hes> we also were were busy. <hes> we had our Spanish announced table double date at the city Improv Club <hes> on Thursday night with with <hes> stand up comedian Chris Porter who's from Kansas City special on Hulu called ugly and angry definitely check that out <hes> I had a good time what about you. Did you have a good time. Does your wife enjoy our company. She did <hes> we had a great time for as well Chris Porter Order of anybody hasn't seen is amazing is a local guy but you know not only reason. We're saying that he's amazing yeah. He's very funny regardless because again you know over the course of this show we don't care that because something as close to us that means we automatically we like it. We are fans of just talent and good <hes> entertainment and Chris Porter is one of those acts <hes> definitely yeah yeah <hes> so we did that. We got out what it was run out of work compliant into the city Improv Kevin Zona Rosa <hes> which not to give them a plug because I think we'd rather give the Comedy Club of Kansas City for into the show Dustin Hoffman for anybody who went back. It's Dustin Carlton something like that <hes> starting up his own comedy club in Kansas City so if you're in the area make sure to check that out but besides that <hes> boy three soccer games role swim trunks this weekend and I managed to watch two and a half of them yeah yeah let's get into this so as as the ball turns now it was as the wheel turns but now it's as the ball turns because you have fun little soccer story so let's get into that was not allowed to finished watching the the latest game <hes> Sunday I think it was and <hes> so son gets double booked by coach right this. This place sets up this this coach he's got two teams and they booked the same teams at the same time to play each other right where you know like come on right as a bit of a Dick move right but but also it's like hey get over and it's kids right so I get both sides right so he says hey <hes> you guys here. All the time is involved you mind just he's like. I don't want to try to pick sides so I'm going to try to kind of coach both but I'm going to get a parent to kind of be the subbing in how to Kinda you know in the moment coach. We were like yeah sure so while he's doing that. We've got a referee who sucks flat out sex. He's the same one who remember if you telling me almost kicked my son out because of the elbow situation nations talented well these are throwing elbows again right and this is a different team but now they're throwing hard elvis and I'm talking raised up elbows right yeah and in any game of any soccer that I've ever watched that's not allowed right extra Kelly great right body ing hips into the wall. Whatever the reasonable is bad because that's dangerous right? You're talking irks. You're talking teeth. You're talking possible concussions right and so we're telling the kids the whole time. Don't don't retaliate right because we're GONNA get thrown out right. That's what the guy who threatened last time so I take it upon myself. Just let him know that this is happening right so I'm going elbows every time one of these kids those elbow right and at some point I start counting them. I I started at one but it had already been more than one right something elbows to right. I'm yelling out and I can see this ref getting angry about it right fucking right like start calling the elbows right because if my kids start retaliating which I'm losing using the ability to convince them not to their bigger. Somebody's about to get hurt right. which is what happened when my son did it so I get the elbows six time right yell it out? He blows the whistle comes over to me. He's like hey you say that again. You're out of here and I was like elbows. I can't say elbows I mean they're throwing elbows and you're not calling the elbows. Why can I say elbows with the hell and he starts yelling back and he goes one more time in your out of here and I and I win okay? I was like okay baby. Just go back to not calling the elbows all right and he was like that's it and you say it again in your out of here you got it and I went do you got it and he blew the whistle like you're out of here and I was like fine whatever man right just turn around and walked out and <hes> <hes> never called another elbow and I again I'm walking out in the kids regular coach right who you know again. We said this is not their normal teams coach against thing he comes around the corner because he had been watching from the end and all he does just give me a high five live on the way out right screw this guy right like forget that man like I don't care right like Ref sock. You'RE GONNA have bad calls but this is a dangerous one where my kids are about to retaliate and it's GonNa get ugly and and somebody's GonNa get hurt right and I'm not disrupting the game by yelling elbows right like every time it gets Donan elbow like get out of here man. I hate people. I love that between the two of us. You're the one that keeps getting kicked out of games would've thought there have been this guy but nope wheel Tim's on down the for it. I like whole thing here is. The kid never wants is hey. It's not illegal. They can blah Blah Blah Arin server which I know he doesn't have that because every other ref in there Dan Place called those you know called foul every other F- I've seen in every other bid of soccer called us about so should I have not maybe set at him and just maybe found whoever's in charge of the refs there to hey man somebody. Go Watch this guy and make sure he's doing this right. You know maybe that's the rat. I should've taken but whatever at some point of like I'm I. I started egging him on to throw me up because I'm not gonNA stop calling out then you those elbows knows what what is so I got to watch two and a half soccer games this weekend and that fun give for you yeah good for you and they have all wrestling those about it other than you know the major wrestling events in case they sporting and that kind of stuff so man I tell you what so Thursday night was our Spanish unstable double date as we already mentioned Friday night was our company Holiday Party we do <hes> towards the end of January just because we like to be respectful of extended ended holidays Yada Yada Yada we feel like towards the end of January I mean come on holidays are done right so that's when the company will do their holiday party. Did it add Lydia's down here in the crossroads Area Lydia. If you don't know who that is world famous talion Italian chef she's been on beat Bobby Flay Gordon Ramsay all that stuff she's from. I mean she's from Italy but she has a residency here in Kansas City. She has restaurants across country. <hes> we ate. They're fantastic food first time. Emily got to meet my co workers. <hes> so that was <hes> interesting and fun <hes> 'cause we like to party and this is a different type of company in the sense that we're still small right like we are are going to be expanding. I told you a couple of weeks ago. We have venture capital invested six million dollars so that needs to go into hiring and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah so we're going to becoming more put together but you know we still have an ugly orange couch that we meet on every Friday you know so we're still that kind of a company right now and emily comes from the children's Mercy Hospital Regimens <hes> you know we need to be have decorum and my to Co founders are just drunk. Skunks just is like that's the past hey yeah they know emily's mom because his mother's like the Queen but godmother of small business in Kansas City and that's not hyperbole that's factual and so we love your mom so much. She does so great work. I don't know why she likes us but we love that she likes his and all that stuff so that was Friday. <hes> stayed out till about eleven eleven thirty which you know that's typical but then the kicker was we got up at five I fifteen Saturday morning. <hes> picked up her brother younger brother to drive to Omaha to go see her older brother compete in his first ever Brazilian Jujitsu competition <hes> he was one of four and his <hes> weight class. Here's the thing that I've not consider because of how big is so. He's six five to thirty right okay six five to thirty so when he told me like hey intern in my Jujitsu competent or into a jitsu competition competition been doing it like twice a week for seven months I was like Oh and he was a cop raves the cop in the Bronx for seven years. I think it was yeah so I was like okay. This guy is not going to be startled by confrontation Russian <hes> he's probably GonNa have extremely good grip strength because you know putting people's hands behind their backs and put handcuffs all these things. I'm like dude your great like here's just a couple of basic things that Anthony's telling me to tell you because I told they anthony it was like hey do you have any tips for beginner 'cause I could tell him stuff but I've only done this twice. You know purple belt like let's get some real information here saying that he was telling me like hey make sure he's doing X.. Y. Z. and so I'm telling JAKE DO X Y and Z right and so <hes> Saturday morning wake up five fifteen we drive the two and a half hours to Omaha Nebraska we get to this rec center where the Jujitsu tournaments. They're <hes> hurled brother shows up. He's a little nervous but like anxious just now excuse me but just anxious do it. He weighs in every motherfucker was his size or bigger. Oh Shit Jake. I thought that I was going to be your advantage and it was not <hes> he he competed well. He didn't match you went over to but <hes> it was a submission. Only if it was points I think he would have won the first one but but <hes> he ended up gassing out because Ed's you're very first one. There's a lot of people your sister your brother. Your Future brother-in-law stared at you. I get it right you go and it was no time limit like you just go until there's a submission. So you know lactic gasset your must build up happens and other guy. The other guy had been <hes> grappling for like three years so not a bad loss second loss was to a guy who was. I don't think he was white belt. I think he should be a blue you belt but is doing one. Oh don't don't don't don't me don't rank me up. I WANNA stay here. You know where I feel comfortable so he did well but <hes> so we did that on Saturday and then Sunday was is the the good old royal rumble. I guess you want to dish into kind of a little <hes> Headline News and then the second seventy the next takeover yeah so yeah. Let's start off with this so the pig rumor rumer and I call it in a room because in the world a pro wrestling everything's a work and so the big rumor confirmed by W._W._e.. Reported by P._W.. Insider and couple other news outlets is that Dean Ambrose will not abby renewing his contract after Wrestlemainia will be leaving the company Tim your thoughts. It does sound like a work. The more thought I of course I believed it you know just because it sounds like Dean Ambrose right right right <hes> and then you know somebody even brought it up on twitter and I forget who was but they were kind of like a man W._w._e.. Doesn't do this like especially when it's that far out they don't talk about this stuff to the media to anybody because it's poor form of any company really do it's definite poor form and typically as you mentioned they they. They make statements after the fact after he has left after she has left. They don't say they like hey coming up. This talent is on right so yeah. My thought process is yes. This is a work yeah. That's kind of how I'm feeling. Also so you know yeah. That's where I think it is. I mean I can't open is because I'm like Dean Ambrose Man I I want them to I. I like him but I would also like if you went somewhere else that had visibility like we're talking about all wrestling promises to be but uh-huh means to be seen but again new Japan I mean I'm not really watching it. I don't know that I'd followed you. Watch it with Dean Ambrose. I feel like I would watch new Japan if yeah if let's say a year from now you know half after a blow to W Rosser left and they're all new Japan Japan completely in English and don't need the subtitles and don't need you can watch if you have the Channel Access T._v.. Jim Ross and Josh commentators but like all of the competitors are speaking with us right right yeah. What about you well so one of the things that is being reported is that he's tired of the hawkiness so let's just say it's a shoot? Let me a whole. I'll say why I think it's work then go into its issue so let me back. I think it's a work for this reason I again have <hes> I'm familiar with contract negotiations. I worked for Titan entertainment now. Those were may contracts similar in the sense of it's an independent contractor trying to hold up his or her end of it a contract agreement right right there is still and we don't know the exact date but they said after Wrestlemainia as of this recording I believe they're still sixty seven days until Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia right and so sixty days out your still play in a pissing competition right. I want this well. We don't want to give you. This said we'll give you that. Why don't want that? I want double what I said the first time you're still doing in this pissing competition stuff doesn't honestly get like real real with a disgruntled employees until about two weeks out then everyone starts to feel the flames right then we're like oh everyone's feet or on the fire. There's there's going to be an impasse here soon right right so sixty days out generally speaking now Dean Ambrose might be a head case because he kind of plays that character but we don't really know how he legitimately is. Now we've met him. He seemed like a fine gentleman. It was early in the morning. He seemed little tired kind of my only read on them anyhow sixty days out. You're Kinda. Just know he'll crack. I don't the other side is GonNa crack before I do so I think if this is a shoot this is just a ploy to get negotiations back on the table but I definitely think this is a work. I think this is going to be a dean. Ambrose Swansong or Dean Ambrose has written out of TV. Look there goes Dean when will show up at all the elite wrestling seth rollins gets screwed by Dean Ambrose at wrestlemainia brock listener retains the title Gotcha right right easily be something that happens right now if it's a shoot one thing that's being reported is that he's tired of the Hokey nece of W._b.. Which yes remember here in Kansas City he had to do that one promo when he was the baby face seth rollins was the he'll and he had to bring out all these like bodily the arms like a mannequin head a mannequin arm and Mick Foley came out and it was really stupid and hokey right? He's done plenty of hokey stuff but I'd like to tell Jonathan good his real name that I found out through the press release a little fun fact the independent the same fucking way Pal oh. Can you got Joey Ryan grabbing the Dick. Don't be thinking that yeah Dobie thinking that now that you're on the independent seeing oh what's real wrestling. That's why said if you were if this is a shoot and you want the real wrestling you're going to have to go to ring of honor or you're going to have to new Japan because that's where the money is for what you're making and that's where the non hokey stuff is man not even that I mean you'll see Joey Ryan in those places and stuff like that. I mean it's it's now. What you have is a little bit more ability on in those things to say? I'm not fucking doing that right now of course if he decides not to do it. I'm saying definitely but what I'm saying is he's he if he's going through the independence seen now before a w starts he might be on a card. Were the young bucks or doing. They're like Meta inside joke where it's the melter driver and all that weird hokey stuff and are you going to be okay with that. That's what I'm getting that like you might be having a legit straight up match with <hes> you know <hes> <hes> Brian Cob or someone you know and it's a real you know two bulls and kind of thing it sure looking for it seems like but underneath that yeah you're GonNa Have Joey Ryan might be doing his Dick Thing and then you might have the super kick party or you might have cheese burger. You'll like you're gonNA have Hokey Shit so I hope that like just because he thinks it's having W._W._e.. Maybe it doesn't happen anywhere else because it does it and the thing is like I say that I I would rather be kind of hearing W._W._e.. If they were going to do something meaningful and cool if this was gonNA turn into a giant work to where he becomes a championship level guy who can hold the story line and make it entertaining and make it a big deal cool but I don't have any faith that I've seen a W._b._z. to do that with knee Bah d still so you know there's a couple people right now that can do that. Daniel Bryan well yeah Brian Amoebic pulling it off somewhat well but a lot because they are forcing the issue of what they want to say so now can also get that clout and pull all that off right. What are the other yeah the other headline news and this is gonNA report but from all indications through twitter and other publications <hes> teams to be legit but Hideo Tommy Mommy has quit W._W._e.? And was granted his release finished up his <hes> tapings on Tuesday and now is a free agent so hideo. Tommy has now out of <hes> W._W._e.. What are your thoughts on that Tim? I thought he was already until recently so you know I. I don't know I feel like I feel like he was the one guy now. Sammy's aim was there. I think if memory serves me correct he was there same Zane was there before four Hideo Tommy what it felt like Kinshasa was a huge star and Kinshasa was the last guy who had to change his name and then like were or someone new right after him it was now Kevin Owens changes name but he was still Kevin Owens right near US name yeah but then Nakimora came over so Moa Joe came over even had James aim storm as using his Presley A._J.. Styles didn't have to change his name so I felt like Kenta. Would everyone would call him hideo. Tommy was that last guy who had to be like nope. Were rebranding. Everything instead of just saying like no tent is the guy that came up with go to sleep and tent as the guy that had the strong style that everyone in the back fucking loves and he had to be like nope. Let's Redo it and he came out strong right in annex t when he debuted he had bad ass song that reminded me of Pride Fighting Championship was the big drums. I loved his walkout song thought it was great. When I heard it the royal rumble I was even like I forgot fucking cool this song is you know <hes> but I always felt like he was a what if case right throw he came out strong? He was doing all the things <hes> he's kind of in that main event like <hes> Komen of it level starts to get a little bit push and then he gets hurt remember he gets hurt forever and they were GonNa Start Art because I think initially from what I remember reading is. They didn't think the injury was going to be too serious so it was Kevin Owens who jumped on backstage. Remember it was going to be alluded to that. A program with Kevin Owens is always going to elevate right but then the injury was a little bit too long and by that time when he did get back to one hundred percent that's when I mentioned the Nakimora already there the FIM Baylor's already they're the same ease aims were hitting it all strides Kevin taking over over and so it was like Oh man welcome back but we got five new shiny toys now sorry and then I thought it was great idea to bring him to five live right because he would look undersized and silly in my opinion. Have it a match with at the time big cast doubt would have just Braun strowman cop with comical. You know I like again W._b.. We're still in the midst of trying to see if a Shinsuke Nakamura will work out an an an Oscar <hes> but those have been the only to that you could give any measurable success of Japanese Stars have worked brought over in. I mean yeah before people try to say Yokozuna. He's Samoan so no like it just doesn't well you know not too because we were trying to be a podcast that doesn't read the dirt cheats however because says you know we are on twitter enough things that you scroll through. You're gonNA see something <hes> it's being reported that Hackamore is not the happiest and if you saw his <hes> last tweet it was W._C._W.. I Hashtag W._C._W.. W Just W._C._W.. So you don't know what that means but people are now whispers of Nakimora leaving we'll get into it in the next segment <hes> possibly but you know he won the title at Rumble and then he lost the title to our truth the United States Championship to be specific but <hes> yeah so we'll see but <hes> it seems like confirmed <hes> Hideo Tommy gone. I think he goes to new Japan. I think him <hes> in Okada or if he goes to <hes> all Japan where he kind of made his name I believe Hashtag tweet table if I'm wrong going off memory here but I feel like new Japan is the shiny new Japanese promotion number number one number one number one so I think an Kata <hes> Kenta matches awesome. I think it Kenta <hes> Naito match is great. Kenny Omega left New Japan but we don't know what happens with him <hes> <hes> but I think that can go back over built some good feuds and then wrestle kingdom. I think it's going to be fourteen. I would not be shocked if in January of twenty twenty he's made of any wrestling or the new new Japan heavyweight championship yeah I mean I think this is better off for them and like I don't. It's not working here. Nobody even people that like love to five live. I don't hear them being like it's J. O.. Tommy like so you've got to put the belt on him like just nobody really. He's just the guy that's there yeah but again you know like I mentioned last week. You had Daniel Bryan going out of his way to talk about how Hideo Tommy kicked him the hardest and you can't right here on his right ear and he's a dangerous man so it seems like backstage. Still there's the hey we all love this guy but like you said W._w._e.'s track record with building international stars that don't speak English as a first language when it slammed it known as a simone. Some of that may be too like I mean we talked about this <hes> off on our own through text messages about the Dean Ambrose thing that there's been reports that they're trying to push the people that are adamant like I'm GonNa Leave. I'm happy happy to try to keep them from doing so so that's why we may have seen some enhanced time and mentioning of these people because they're trying to be like Oh guys. Don't we do love you see and see through that man. They're not dumb. You know what I mean like so I don't that's almost like did you see yeah. Did you see Chris Jericho's tweet. He made some news <hes> Chris Jericho tweeted at ring of honor at <hes> W._W._e.. And I believe at <hes> new Japan pro wrestling a might have got the third one wrong but anyhow he said <hes> hey and then <hes> twitter handled all of those companies <hes> stop pushing everyone who's upset were only interested in six to eight thanks and then it was all league wrestling. That was pretty great fun. Hey you can stop with all these things. We're not interested in half the people that are upset. We only want like six of them right there. It is yeah all right you WanNa take a break and then after the break we get into our thoughts on next takeover and the royal rumble and then take another break into our favorite things of the week some foreshadowing yeah. I'm excited about that. I may have to think about what actually was my my favorite but we have time to do that because like you said we're coming back in the break. We're GONNA talk about Annex T and talk about Royal Rumble and you know what I mean. We're GONNA hit it up but in the meantime in the meantime to help us out once again we had a few technical difficulty so it would help if you may be gave some donations to pay pal you can use table show at gmail.com or you can make a donation and get something for your money. Besides entertainment you can get like some shirts and some other stuff apparently not lighters I dunno if you saw that e mail come through Tom said can't put cartoon characters on Zippo lighter but you know doesn't really fit the bill but there's other stuff out there. Zaza dot com slash Spanish announce table that Z. as easy L. E. DOT com slash Spanish announced table <hes> by stuff and we're going to get a couple bucks off every item. We're not getting much. 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You know what I mean. skype sucks and I'm GONNA say that skype hasn't given us any money at all so I mean so in the meantime think about those things check out our website excite Spanish announce table Dot net brought to you by double D and we will return to the Spanish and unstable fun fact forty four percent of American workers think they can do a better job than their bosses to a survey out the Spanish announced table before we take into our recap of the Roy Humble and INEX- takeover one bit of news that we didn't cover in the first segment that will be exciting as we move forward that was announced announced is the Royal Rumble exte- takeover ran unopposed to any other major events and that's because this coming weekend is the super bowl the big game if we are corporate <hes> radio station did but we can say super bowl because it's podcast but the Super Bowl will be this Sunday America's number one event of the year and a fun match is coming back during halftime halftime heat is doing it this time to six men tag. It's Johnny Gargano Adam Cole and tomato chocolate versus velveteen dream Alastair black lack ricochet so halftime he coming back. What are your thoughts about that? My first thoughts are I'm going to be watching that. <hes> I've really care about the halftime who whatever Murray month yeah yeah whatever right who gives shit <hes> this is going to be way better and I'd like to go to the twitter board. Here's Tom I'd like to go to Hashtag. tweet the table on twitter by the way anybody listen to use Hashtag tweet the table on twitter and we're going to read some of the best right here. On the show in one of those best this week was from an old friend of the show who hasn't been around for a while at the ultimate one. Hey says I am excited to see halftime heat. I hope to see someone get pin via forklift Hashtag to the table. I feel like the forklift should at least be seen like backstage as ricochet walks to the ring he should just like look over at a forklift and just kind of not and then keep walking. There should be some type of acknowledgement of the forklift because it's connick for halftime right does great got yeah you have to do yeah that should be fun and they need to do that all time and from what I remember hearing it's what they're going to streaming on like Youtube twitter face baseball everything doing everything but yeah great idea super very good. I love it. I like it again. It gives me something to do while I endure the musical stylings of whoever is that year most times I like it. I'm going to be completely lately frank with you. Though I enjoyed the Bruno Mars the beyond says and all that I don't well you burn five you hit. It's the it's the musical stylings of whoever because it would be whoever they you you know what I mean they wrote a song they made the song in some damn record companies production studio somewhere and they could have given Maroon five or they could have given they take it and that's how it's hit right but I will say a even if it was banned or musician that I was a huge fan of Justin Timberlake or whoever it is right that six and tag I mean that's the six best arguably talent in annex t arguably in the World Herald in one match so I feel like I can't miss that especially for a special attraction like this. It's not the main event of INEX- episode two eighty. Whatever it's halftime he episode to really you know you cannot miss a chance Nance at velveteen dream experience right I mean oh I tell you what yeah I yeah? I think I think he's GonNa be the one that shines in that now. That's a little bit of foreshadowing. Maybe we'll do pick on that later but <hes> anyhow halftime he the first segment wanted to bring that up <hes> because that would end as like a little extra bonus of the INEX- takeover INEX- takeover happened again the night before royal rumble <hes> general thoughts what would you what did you think after the show had ended. I love it man. I and I always do talk about this. A they put five matches on the card so it's bound to be a little more. They're not trying to flood everything right. Yeah it feels a little bit more digestible right and so they've had time also to focus on all these storylines and not stretch them out and not wear them out and not be redoing them over and over again opd. Maybe five six years down the road. They will be experiencing that problem where they're having to repeat things but <hes> I mean kicked off great and you can tell triple h is running <hes> annex t by the very first insurance that comes in and all that was correct yeah fit wonderfully for them though right I mean that's Oh purchased. I mean the war raiders got to have that right. They've gotTa have raiders with them as it were right yeah. I thought it was yeah. I'm not a big viking guy or anything but I do like the Matiz Komo Alpha male type thing and I thought it was perfect I for me not being a fan of that culture per se I was definitely a fan of that. Entrance thought it was really cool. What about the match? Would you think of the match. I thought it was really good. You know there's definitely it seems like a formula of next takeovers now right so it's tag match feud women's match title-match kind of feels always like A._b._C._d.. C._d. but the thing is is A._B._C._d.. Is something I always want to see like. It's I'm getting to the point where it's like. Oh the tag match will probably kick off. I tag match. Did Oh man those what really good match okay I bet you it's a feud. Oh it's a feud fuck. Yeah all right like I can predict. Sometimes it's okay to predict things like I think sometimes the main roster over thinks things and we'll get into the royal rumble here and a little bit but I thought the tag match was exactly what it should be. I thought it was exactly the pacing racing was perfect. <hes> the timing of it was perfect too long but it got you out of your seats got some fun false finishes and we got some new tax stamps so those perfect. What do you think about that? I'm a little worried about a team like the war raiders being the champs. It's hard for people to chase that right because that's gotta be dominant. You know what I mean like. We eat people like breakfast team so well. I'm hoping you know you will see as time time goes on but what am I favored things to to happen with with. Titleholders is to cede the evolution of the character and so one person I always comes to mind is see him punk right. See punk took the title as the baby face. Oh God we love the baby days but but but but but then he turns on the rock right and then he goes into this heal thing where now he's dreaded mass. It was like two different people maybe the war raiders can do that right. Maybe the street profits take them to the limit and they have to you know I don't know throw fucking spirit some of these one of these guys and now their heels and now they turn in to the word is GonNa Fuck Shit up because we're bigger that everyone mentioned this team the street prophets outfits. What do you think of those guys? I thought I think they're cool. I want to be their friend. I WanNa have read Solo Cup. Look I have a Red Solo Cope here. I WANNA walk around with them and just I don't know say Alison pop dance with them they are but I thought the random their charisma personified. They are Super Fun. I like them a lot yeah and then you know breaking K. fe but him and I and Bianca Belair are an item so I want all three of them right like the skinny gives you guys nice yeah and so but yeah I love the street profits I think the COO yeah man I just want to start snapping walking doc and yeah and I don't know what you know obviously the coaches and the people in agents in the producers and stuff down there in annexed here looking for but as far as like a a crowd work and and that kind of thing those guys got it down now can they do promos. Can they tell Jerry's maybe need some more work and that's why they're still down inex- tea and this could be like you said a good food for the war raiders but because they're not ready I I don't I think we think the street profits are ready to be carrying around the titles although when they do in the ready for that that's going to be a really fun tack team. Champions Yeah Yeah and I think you know undisputed. Era is so strong and solidified for who they are what they they are. I You know undisputed era to me always works best when they're the kings of the show like that's when the undisputed air is hitting at a ten out of ten kind of thing but I definitely think they don't have the titles. We're not saying I'm like what the hell are. They doing now. They can still go in there and go like we're fucking shit up. We have clout. We have a record. You know. We have some credibility here so I think them not. Having the titles is is is not bad right all right so back to N._F._C. Takeover Phoenix which by the way the crowd was already on point in this thing and they were fun throughout the whole weekend. I I love the whole Phoenix crowd. They were good. Ah Yeah Houston attack saying like they did great as far as giving the energy but not making it about them. They weren't that East Coast Philly New York Boston thing where it's taken over. It's just like it wasn't like stuff that didn't make sense like even even was flash forward to smack down. I think it was in <hes> somebody who's like <hes> who's re. I can't remember I think as A._J.. Somebody said something in the news like who would be in there was like Becky Bay like like like okay right so that's install fun right all right so we had matt riddle taken on Cassius Ono in. I like this match a lot. I thought they did a great job. At telling the story I really like the ending where Ono's tapping out to the elbow blows mission movies like Hey Forget Hispanic and keep taking this onslaught that was fun. Well and you know one thing that I love about the Matt. Riddle character is that he's a character that does it need to be in a guy right like one thing that she and I'm bazars maisy net what is being a he'll but one thing I feel like she kind of leans on a little bit too much as a crooks or a crutch but is it a bad thing is the I'm anime finer. Hey remember an M._a.. Fighter and Yeah I get it right but I mean Brown does than the May fighter you know what I'm saying but going back to the riddle met riddles such a character that you know he's the King of the Bros.. And I think of a more as a surfer that an M._a.. Fighter so this finish was perfect four the exte- takeover platform to say like hey motherfuckers. I'll kick my flipflops off and say King of the Bros.. But I'll fuck you up with elbowed like let's not forget who I am and so the intimate type finish I thought was perfect because it gave a little bit of that that at an end to character that could be taken kind of almost Santino ask right like if he goes much with the Bro thing he could get lost in Santino the Eugene kind of thing where it's just fun little Dorky guy over here and if you do some elbows and make people tap from T._K._o.. Then you can step back like Oh yeah this guy fuck people out finished gonNA help him avoid that scenario is that a he looks like the baddest man on in that roster due to size and build and his in his physique but then also that just you know I mean like you sit in the move set and all that stuff so he should not calm the Albro then I think everything should everything should be bros.. Yeah I love it 'CAUSE I. That's why I like him. So much is because he's a character he is a I can identify who that is if uh-huh what that Stevo became a wrestler right like if Italy asked me who is Matt Riddle I can. I can explain that if you tell me what the difference is or if you ask me to tell you what the differences between Dobbs Ziegler fucking stuff Matt Riddle is a defined character I can tell you and that's why I like him so much right all right and then coming out the gates swinging trying to hit that home run a match of the year in January it was ricochet and Johnny Gargano for the next North American title and of course right like you. I mean the history of takeovers I feel like there's a few names that you say are takeover guys and girls uh-huh and Johnny Gargano Ricochet are two of those people like a shortlist of people who've made these events so special those two are at top list in my opinion and so yeah this is their first time having a takeover match. I thought it was spectacular. Thought it was amazing. I mean again the athleticism and these are the kind of guys that can also get in what we like flips and shit without overdoing it without it being flip flip flip elbow but I'm right back up and then flip flip and then smashed into the corner but I didn't faze me again right like it actually means something actually makes sense in the moment. It actually looks like it hurts the person who did it to right like I mean it looks real aw yeah and some of those moves yeah and some of those moves doesn't require the B guy and again. I'm saying that the guy performs the move but the big I just doesn't stand there and wait for it right. That's one of my biggest criticisms of Jay Lethal. I Love Love Jay Lethal. I think everything he does right. Now's ring of on her champion is spectacular. I've been a big fan of his but that finisher that he has we're just requires the guy to stay in their kind of with this dumb and his ass until the finish your comes to them I think is I just I just check out. It makes me stop my suspense of believability but with ricocheting Johnny Gargano especially mismatch. I thought yeah everything was believable. Everything hit a home run. I love the the the inner battle that Johnny Gargano had with pulling the protective. Whatever it's called to expose the the concrete and going like Asiedu and these fucking? I gotTa do yeah those. The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is a first match series which may be this is going to be a series. There have an X._t.. Halftime he but the only thing I I kind of Saron is just a baby face losing clean you know what I mean like some type of Shenanigans because what this is my philosophy on per wrestling is the good guys always better than the bad guy. The reason the bad guy is a bad bad guy is because he's not as good as the good guy like so a bad guy just beats the good guy clean well in that good guy sucks now. We're not saying that ricochet sucks but if you just loses clean. Where does he go? You know what I mean. It's hard for him to have a rematch unless you build them up from you know wins ten matches in real like we had becky Lynch. Do it summer slam kind of thing but he'll he lost clean so if they if you wanNA rematch well sorry pal in this one they could still pull it off this way because Johnny Gargano was having that <hes> internal battle that you spoke up then ricochet can still come out and be like you did gray but you know that it was super close and maybe just one fall all shouldn't determine it and then Garganas like I don't know but champ champ is in his ear going. Hey man you beat him. You gotTa beat him again and he's like but he's right like maybe he's like. No Man screw cares if he's right right so he has that little thing these like now forget it. I'm definitely they beat something yeah all right well. Let's move on. We had shane obeys ler versus Bianca Bel Air for the next he women's title and I said I was looking forward to this one and they felt like they delivered really well and I like the touch touch of Bianca Bel Air freaking out like when she thought she had the win but the REF was knocked out like like a rookie move right like a Naw Jim and now in it like I like like she just new in that moment her opportunity was blown whereas a veteran knows hey gotta find another opportunity right like and that's what essentially lost or the match if we're believing it was a real thing right because she just leaper cool in a moment of a stressful situation <hes> another big moment for that was the hair whip that was he's GonNa Bring up. Yeah Good God that had heard so bad I can imagine but yeah again just great in ring storytelling whoever helped them work out that match because I'm assuming they didn't just sit there on their her own. You know those two but again brezler killing it just being one of the best heels under the W._W._e.. Umbrella period yeah. I thought the match was really good. <hes> I agree <unk> wholeheartedly with everything he said there. I felt like the reason she lost the matches coach. She's a rookie. The reason that Shayna Fazlur one is 'cause. She's the top he'll <hes> everyone comes looking out great <hes> but the right person one to continue a dominant storyline for the kind of a week an X._t.. Women's division right now yeah that's it to like. There's yeah gotTa Kinda Start for as much effort as they put into that and extend the performance enter to get the women where they are now in the main roster. It's kind of second wind of of girls which you know that's fast forty into the royal rumble. We saw a good crop of next girl so we'll see but yeah for right now. There needs to be some built up talent because it's Shayna to me. It feels like Shayna and then everyone else yeah. It just felt like maybe Lacy Evans could've spent some more time down there. Although I know she's a he'll inner current character but they could've made her face against somebody like obeys ler swift that gimmicks still you know yeah yeah. Definitely I agree. I don't know who knows why I don't get paid for this Champa defending the N._F._C. Championship against Alastair Black what it what are your thoughts Kinda very similar almost the same feelings of this match as I did the ricochet <hes> Johnny Gargano match where you say like yeah. It's D'Amato chopping Alastair Black. Have you seen what they've been doing. Takeovers like they're gonNA be fine together but again you had a baby face lose clean so then. Where does he go right like one something when they showed the the after annex t was over the six guys you know square off and Alicja blacks limping out there which credit to him for still selling an injury but it was like Oh yeah you of the six years sack right? You're the one who laws on ricochet loss to that was just kind of how like well of course I'm taking the other three because two of them already beat two of you so of course are the ones but the match it so that the dream right yeah and he already lost tomato jump as well so yeah jump as two thirds of the damn other sakes so anyhow back to this. I thought he was really good again tomorrow. Oh CIAMPA is just awesome. Lei Oh Alastair Black we disagree on astor black. I think I and this is being completed. I think I'm buying into what it could be not what it is right like what I see. He's kind of what you see right where it's like. The promos are okay the presentations awesome right the league. You know coffin standardizing. The music is bucket head games right the city those kind of things like it down yeah. There's elements of an awesome character and I think I'm falling in love with no this do could really go evil but then I have to remember we're in a W._w.. Product you know they try to like I say a billion times and trying to tell the story of Jesus but not allowing anyone play the devil so it's fucking hard and I feel like he's stuck in that role where if it was attitude era if Alastair Black was around during nineteen ninety nine I think undertaker Alastair Nestor Black would blow the roof off of everything like the fucking embalming people and hanging of people Alastair Blake. It'd be one hundred percent into that. Oh my God yeah undertaker is I think I would pair maybe was somebody to do is talking because he can't do some talking but it's it's still kinda monotone character. He doesn't use of the now it's not as good so I'm not saying it's the same so you remember that as I say the statement one six for all your hate mail on twitter exactly but his cadence and his delivery and that like boiled up rage. That's about to explode reminds joins me a lot of jake the snake in the sense of like year enough. I don't have to yell motherfucker via lose. My patience Shit's going to hit the fan and that's where I feel again. I think I'm falling in love with elements up. Will you delivers it like jake the snake so maybe he could be jake the snake and he's got the presentation of under and I think I need to be a little bit more aligned with like well yeah but really he's not doing anything to great but I do like I like the going back to the match tomato I mean I think the person that takes Tomasa chopper is the story has to in on a winning yeah because I don't know how else they do like when they're ready to like okay okay Champa. You're ready to come up like the storyline has to be a God. Damn Slam Dunk. No but I'm tired of this. We need to stop it. No one goes no one. No in there and we're done. We're we're done a great story. We can tell an annex t with frank now you could legitimately because how good all the talent is in how good annexed tease been you have faith in the product you could go six months six eight months just with Tomas O. CIAMPA and Johnny Gargano doing what I kind of feel like is the stone cold Steve Austin triple h two manpower trip just at the next level but you could go six eight months with just the two guys guys terrorizing everything and then you can go another four or five months with Johnny Gargano comes to a census and has to overcome this demon who has got him off track and that's where at the very end the light tied at the end of the tunnel. Johnny Gargano Comes Home Johnny Wrestling and Beats Tomasa CIAMPA. It's Raven and Tommy Dreamer. It is yeah I mean and it's you know what I mean. It's it's <hes> it could be triple eight Shawn Michaels right where their friends this year and their enemies the next and their friends and their and their friends there <hes> the lifelock it could be the MS Daniel Bryan kind of thing right it could even go a crossings and yeah I kind of agree with you at this point till somebody's injured in your running out out of like options. Stop bringing up like why the brought up the heavy machinery well the heavy machinery because tag-team divisions were last call on smackdown bringing them there but like the other ones like you're bringing in. Who are they bring you can't even N._B._C.? Three and we still ain't see Jack Shit with that. Guy We get into. Let's so <hes> the end of INEX- t will will put a bow on this and the move into the royal rumble but the the end of annex t takeover saw Johnny Gargano come out after Tomasa CIAMPA retain both of them holding the titles up and that's where I kind of alluded to it felt to me as if like Oh shit this is again for lack of a better term the first thing that came on my mind was this is triple h and stone cold joining forces to manpower trip now hope we know there's a fucking quad blood. This could be what they wanted that to be right and so I I got so excited show excited I will. Let's move onto the royal rumble <hes>. Let's get into the rumble and do it. We had a kick off show. I'm just going to skip over the I met give a shit that whole raise our and whatever his name taken on ruin gable just and make any sense to me that make no sense 'cause then the next night yeah whatever the fucker called revival together so why oh I didn't just do the RU- stupid dumb or triple threat tag team match at that point man those guys they missed the flight something something happened well yeah and on top of that I mean let's just say this first off. The takeover was amazing right but that was a home run every single time but I get these travel packages and you know we're talking about doing travel package for wrestlemainia Spanish now sable trip out out there but not like the big four or great but can we stop making the big four seven fucking hours. I mean I was like we'll get to it way when it comes but the A._J.. Styles danube-rhine thank you Brian Match was fucking great and I was burnt out. I was so exhausted because I wanted to be for this all of it until I watched the glorious whatever they're called Gable in route food and all the way to this and it was just I mean come on guys. That's too long was a lot yeah and then we you know Russa Lost Shinsuke. Nakamura wins the U._S. title which you know then two days later is off. You know you're trying to skip too much. I that whole mess odd but I mean hey I kinda called out that whole Roussev <hes> Shinsegei escape teaming up thing. It looks like maybe they were doing that to get to here. Yeah and I also like that. Lana getting injured lead to something else right match had a purpose for later in the night purposes services and I liked it not more now again. Tuesday changed my opinion of that but I was like okay I think they understood what United States of knock America could have been so they're gonna go with that again right so Qassem so the night of rumble. That was a fan of that that match I was like yeah. Let's Darlie do that. Yeah it was it was like all right cool and then you know they had that fatal for away with the soon to be gone hideo Itami POLICTO Zelin Buddy Murphy. They're really all in on this Buddy Murphy Guy. I don't know that I see it so much but hey hey you know he looks to the part. He looks good getting off the bus. You know what I mean and sound the part to me. You know I don't think I've ever heard I don't think I've ever heard of talk Yay missing much on the main show Oscar Oscar Mbeki Lynch and now this was surprising because I just thought we didn't know Becky Lynch was going to be in the rumble right the women's rumble and then she loses maybe right we thought maybe but then I thought kind of okay well. That's where this is going right. They're going to give her this like all right. Man Like miss that opportunity and now I've got a fight my way into mania and of course everybody loves her and she's trying to find a way to mania but she keeps getting denied. Slash swerved over that's where I thought that was heading and health and it does give some legitimacy to ask. I Yeah I agree on all points on that first off before we dive into it. Let's Kinda. Just what what what was your overall thought about some or excuse me of royal rumble like out of ten what would gave it you can check out my thoughts on Spanish now sable dot net <hes> with an article call to rumble in my stomach two thousand Nineteen Royal Rumble Review Yeah where I hit up that you know usually typically specially over the last decade or more rumbled can be super superfund and at the same time just be highly predictable yeah highly predictable which still felt that way I mean obviously we missed on a couple of predictions but even when we miss we're kind of not wrong. They just went different person or you know what I mean. I mean like it's still kind of like okay and it's even so predictable in like when it boils down to like the final four to one of those matches you go. This is the person I'm okay with that because sometimes aims to tell a story you have to tell the obvious thing right like you know. If it's a western you have to tell the story of the Guy Getting on the Horse to get to the destination like it's okay. You know that's all right <hes> but I thought it was good. I thought Royal Rumble was <music> overall pretty decent but this is where the little things I thought they could have done better and I'm glad you know we're starting off with the first match tonight Becky Lynch Oscar right the very first person that shows up on the main show so if you go to W._b.. Network go to two thousand nineteen royal rumble the first person you see the music you here is Becky Lynch right so if you know that at the end Becky Lynch is GonNa win the rumble in my the opinion and I get the whole like men main event than the women main event last year the women made event it so this year the manmade invented but that doesn't tell a good storyline so suck it backwards you what you should have done as you have becky Lynch be the first thing you you see on the royal rumble walkout loses but then comes back and the last person you see on the royal rumble is Becky Lynch with her hand held high like that is it is a story I can. I can send that story yes to a non wrestling fan that it was fucking too long but that event and the person would go away saying like so Becky Lynn is pretty cool and I'm like fuck. Yeah look another other reason you don't have to do what they did here with like you said <hes> well the women because it was the first time last year we put them in event so this thing so so next year we got into the men no you don't. That's not dot what equality is right equalities. We're going to treat them both in the moment and when we're looking at both of them the hottest fucking thing going right now is becky lynch so I don't give course did we put the women last first time because it made sense then because they it was is new this time we're putting them last because we're pulling the trigger on Becky fuck and Lynch so it's that simple yeah so <hes> but like I said I won't be too droning but yeah everything you said it add credibility to Oscar and as we go through. rumble will hit on our ron smackdown thoughts too because third segment we'll give you our favorite things but <hes> so yes it gave total credibility to oscar <hes> i watched tuesday smackdown didn't even here name be mentioned it felt like that what the fuck that was that was that was another miss where it's like okay oscar made becky lynch tap out building lynch but guess who's the fuck and queen on smackdown date charlotte fucking oscar that's where i thought it was missed but yeah the match itself i thought it was way better than i i did not predict that match to be as good as it was to be honest with you you know i was going to be a little bit jumping on their free throws and they killed it all right the bar defending the smackdown titles taxing titles unsuccessfully against the best best tag team in the world mcneese what did you think about at this you have to break up the bar yes you have to break up the bar this is why this is now the the second biggest profile match they had and they lost to a makeshift put together band aid team right so they lost their titles titles at wrestlemainia to have fucking ten-year-old and braun strowman r._a. that was on row you move onto smackdown let's get them some credibility so they win the smackdown titles okay we're the bar the did right all that shit but but now you're losing to forty nine year old looks like he's having a heart attack in a match shane mcmahon and awesome but i tell him yeah it's just the bar has just lost everything so they need to implode road or or do something because mr joke ms wasn't celebrating and like shaking shane mcmahon after that victory i think he was giving him fucking seat like c._p._r. tactics man he was like hey get a fucking breath in yeah like okay man i get the story they were trying to tell here but it's hard to not just treat him like vince mcmahon junior who just because they want him to be a pro roaf you know prominent position they're going to give him he shows up and gets in one match and wins at best of the world tournament they decide okay we're going to attacked him now and there i fucking like real match attack ships like dude like it's hard for us to take these things seriously when you fucking do this so i totally agree however i think they want us to think that i think when the the other shoe drops in this storyline war going to be recalled to all of those moments it's going to be the ms was the one that got you to the best in the world the ms who got you the tag team champion and i think we're going to get now i don't know which way still they're going to go but one of them's turning heel on them to go to mania all of that that stuff is gonna be recalled i thought it was going to happen right on smackdown when they when they brought out his neck faced foster and hey you know he's got like no transition between his neck in his face right it's all just like one like square so if when they had him out there and he did the whole i'm proud of you i thought he was just going to wall up and be like now now you fucking saying like you know what i mean and then turn on i thought like i was hoping right then i was like do it now do it now beat up your father beat up shane though the titles like i don't need any of this shit i need so you don't need you to tell me you're right like yeah the he would have been amazing would have been good but more coming yeah that's that's coming but it's not coming right now but i yeah i think the shane mcmahon setup though like you said i think that's for a purpose i don't think it's just been juniors kid i think i think that has some <hes> something to yeah and then we got a match i really could give to shits about and it still even though they did a good job in the match i guess it's still didn't hold my a inter attention for entertainment purposes was ronda rousey and sasha banks and now they we'll talk about this maybe coming up when we get into the the raw with becky lynch and everything <hes> because they went away from this finally but the the way they'd been booking looking ronda rousey like the i'm so sorry be you can we still be friends it was like what in the fucker we doing this four i said it last week going into the royal rumble two writers for the w._w._e. obviously had never ever seen rhonda as in the u._f._c. ronda rousey and the u._f._c. <hes> and seem like as a real person <hes> and i'm just kind of repeating myself view didn't listen last week but if you did here it comes again but ronda rousey is the person that after she arm armed barred mutate imitate went for a handshake to end the beef she scoffed at her she's also the girl that knocked out bechke ohio and then stood over and said you bitch like she is a thug nasty in your face i'm alpha female new like she's not on raw which you know we'll talk about heavier later but that's who's yes that's the fat who she is that i mean the main reason she became famous was she was beating girls faster in an instagram video the whole fight was less time than an instagram video and on top of that she would fight dudes if you told her to his that's how it she thought of herself she's she if they went to shakur hand she'd fucking ypres give me a little dirty sanchez is on the way out i mean she wasn't like when alexa bliss started on annex t as that little miss bliss and she was like a fairytale thing it feels like they're trying to take that care and make rhonda do it and that's where the disconnected and that's why she's getting booed i think if you would have had three months of ronda rousey you know putting her dirty pita ambigious faces and saying a. and suck it the chris border joke and had this unstoppable force while on smackdown you had becky lynch being you know conor mcgregor the female version for all basically is what she her <music> gimmick is on monday you would have had everyone going let's go rhonda let's go becky but because you did the rhonda is going to hold everyone's hand and just proud to be here you got everyone's fuck around drowsy and she didn't know how to handle it she was just twirling her her microphone not knowing what do know how that's not prefaced in every like promo class and help they do is hey in the event that a crowd turns on because they can happen even when you're doing everything right here's simple things like a you can bumi all you want i don't care you know what i mean like that's all you need to do like it's all you need to do just move on tell them yeah whatever cool buck off you guys suck and then move on like i don't know even when your face that's still comes off as a face movie like you guys can bumi i don't care i've got something to say out here right but i thought the match itself i thought that finisher was weird i i thought initially sasha's got hurt that's why they ended except that she landed on her head but apparently that's going to be her new like she has darbar and then she has that move like her to finishers kind of thing i thought the in was really clunky with sasha walking up within walking back then walking up and walking back and then doing the four and then fast forward to win becky lynn showed up on raw the one thing that w._w. wanted to show you like oh you might have missed it on the broadcast is after bailey loss to rhonda she throws up the four for becky lynched throws up before there's a grand and then becky challenges <hes> rhonda they're doing the four horsewoman after wrestlemainia because if you notice who rhonda is facing right so she faced summer slammed was supposed to be becky but it was charlotte then at royal rumble it was supposed to be or it's it's going to be or it was sasha banks now wrestlemanias going to be becky lynch so we just had her be bailey so she's good face here's what's going gonna happen is of the we're going to get you know four horse women for the i'll call it now my w w prediction of course this may change air my wrestlemainia prediction <hes> becky lynch will win that match and when the title because the w._w._e. we w e four horse women help her and then all of a sudden that's the big shock and then the fallout from that is rhonda gathers her for horse women on raw or whatever and yeah if becky lynch versus rhonda ronda is the main event i would not be shocked in the slightest is as the fireworks go off you have charlotte holding the smackdown championship via balian sasha all in the tag team championship and then you have <hes> becky holding the raw championship they all four have their titles they all four foot their hands boom boom boom boom the four horse women women's are here equal yada yada yada and that's your lasting image just like how they tried with wrestlemainia twenty and it was eddie and chris benoit's that in the bed but they're gonna hope for that kind of ending but for wrestlemainia whatever this is for the ladies <hes> let's get to the women's royal rumble match <hes> and i think we both kinda mentioned this like it felt like they booked it well for the first five to six entrance and then the last five six entrance and everything in between was <hes> okay okay the last of the middle of it was so stupid maria canals god bless you need came back after two months of having a kid or whatever it is you look amazing you're still wrestling you can do it you're fucking character was dog shit at the royal rumble a leash fox no-one thinks what you're doing is cool your awkward in the sense of everyone wants you to stop you're not awkward in the sense everyone wants you to keep being awkward and it's fun just go away you fought they thought overhead that no one cared about just i don't middle kit kit fox horrible thing period like the the i'm clearly acting like i'm i am a lunatic bit you know what i mean like it so first film and pulling off the lunatic thing worked because you didn't know right like this guy is legit might actually be a lunatic alicia suffices come up that way it's i'm trying to act like a lunatic because i think you're gonna think that's funny and it's just it's just not coming off well because you also have to be a funny person pull that off you have to have charisma wismer just saying all right incuding allston italian for being the iron woman of that one <hes> i mean she put in some work but of anyone who would do of course right one that everyone loves chachi evans put in a long time to and that american ninja warrior girl i thought out kofi kingston kofi kingston i that her stuff was way as the thing was fun to do you want to get into that because that is getting herbs yeah i see your place here the which won the this whole like two feet like just to two points of contact if it's your hands if it's your shoulders i'm tired of the actually the feet the kofi kingston thing look you had a great stretch where jesus of mary it was out of this world incredible it jumped the shark this year you need to stop it was tested i get you were saying like here's here's here's what i'm saying if you get thrown over the top but you don't hit the floor at all right so somebody catches you you land on something else that's not the floor and you can get back in great or you're still hanging on and and only one foot touches cool right but like coach laying completely on his back with one foot up in the air you're out man you're gone and here's why too because like the here's where it also was dumb <hes> because then then exam your woods picks them up and brings him in when none of that needed to happen you could've just scooted you're happy aspect with your foot still in the air and climbed yourself backup you didn't needing xavier wants to pick he walk in the weirdest most awkward of ways so none of it made sense none of which you know new day doesn't but i think it was a botch it was i think he's supposed to catch him right if that happens okay but that's the risk you do and pa- wrestling there is no take two's i get it however just the whole the whole thing is just played out now it's just stop whatever year and don't make it a point like kofi is in here and he's gonna do something no no ho because you just makes us go this is your one trick pony now like this is what you're here for nobody thinks you're going to win it because you're only here to do this and then two or three of them he did a ton of going back to the women's win the the the middle was clunky i thought the female final four showed how strong the top end of female peress lena's and w._w._e. yeah all of these girls are fucking awesome right i thought it was very fitting that it was charlotte i am becky lynch a regular coming in after lana got injured i thought was good callback to reward you for why you watched the pre show that the start was really good i've thought the middle was excellent i thought the the excellent the middle was good awful very bad and then an odd choice for piss break match was daniel bryan in a._j. styles us which again was an awesome match but i was thoroughly exhausted by the time it got there and then you know the surprise of aircraft come out which is a great fit because we know enough about air grown to know that he is what dana brian is city is right he's an intellectual even though he's a fuck and weirdo right yep so it would stand a reason that he would also be like well we shouldn't eat meat and we shouldn't beat right like it stands it's great did you see the little caveat the enhanced enhanced <hes> rowen character they did what so when he comes out his new titan tron ruined oh michael simple yes that is great <hes> so i like that but they also didn't didn't like and i know they wanna leave you wanting more but like roaches comes out chokes on somebody and then done saint like there was no like from or anything it was just i'm leaving with this guy that's what i do i'm i'm the muscle here and i liked that eh you don't always need you know as far as starting out you don't always need to have everyone explain why they did it and then that's muscle he silent do it yes yeah just yeah the whole match fell on placement they smell like they typically used to do this when they had the split titles before with the brand split was one of them would go on i it was always smacked in yeah so maybe that's why they were trying to avoid that this time but distill felt like an odd placement for this match i thought like an odd placement but it also felt like oh man we still have another rumble and title magic i'm so tired like of the two title matches that you knew had to come between these two rumbles i i would rather gotten and through the listener pallor one i right like i just because you knew this was not gonna go if any of you thought in ballard was actually gonna win this match your dumb and i'm gonna tell you why because yes we still have the elimination chamber in the way where titles could change hands but it's wrestlemainia they're not gonna go fin ballard instead of brock lessner because they do wrestlemainia for the people who don't normally watch rash right they want the extra ratings draw raw and finn beller listen to me all of you any nerds is not the ratings draw for people who don't watch wrestling he isn't he never will be right you have to be a wrestling fan to appreciate and want to see in dollar they are going to have brock listener on every u._s._a. today on every m._e._c. with with that damn belt so they can pimp that out watch wrestlemainia brock listener watch wrestlemainia watcher so maybe you watch wrestlemainia brock listener now i know we like to stay storyline driven here especially has to be able to bueno but if you thought this guy was winning i don't know what to tell you don't ever play the lottery i mean it's still could have been cool right because eventually someone's going to have to to conquer that beast right and then can do i think would be great move ben maller beating brooke listener at mania but it wouldn't happen in here right but i thought this told a great when i i was hoping than now looks not to be the cases we fast four deraa but i thought it was going to be a great opening act two three part series where we get at hopefully wrestlemainia that was my hope is then the a demon comes out to conquer the beasts should have been your immediate clue the moment it wasn't the demon you should have known brock listener wins well yeah but what i'm saying is i thought the match in how the how he had brock listener to a point where brock listener couldn't even suplex them showed like the man fin baylor is up to this task tonight he was not the better man right and you capable but still lose brock listener right right but i was hoping that the next night paul heyman would say you know fin you know you came up short you're not the man kept on like playing up the whole like you're not as much of a man you're going up against abc's of maine i and then you get rematch at wrestlemainia where it's the demon versus the beast that sells tickets you just say that on thing on a card headline that sells tickets the beast versus the a demon and then ballard has the demon i don't get the whole thing but he looked so you could do that you could do the rematch for whatever reason right like in ballard still comes out and finds a way to go brock leser into the rematch ed elimination chamber and still bill almost gets them but doesn't and then he comes out again on the raw after elimination chamber and heyman eleazar like why why would we give you a third chance it'd be like oh you don't need to give me a third chance you need to give the team in the chains right and so yeah already booking it no yeah this is how i would have done it i would have had whoever you're picking to face the champion on smackdown have that person win the rumble so let's just say samoa joe schmo joe towards the it's about joe wins the royal rumble he's taking out the eco-friendly daniel bryan because now he's going in like that cool bad ass baby-faced kind of thing daniel bryan still doing the eco friendly thing so that's your smackdown thing right so they he wins the royal rumble not seth rollins then raw has to do their match where it's all the people are in the elimination chamber first person wins final person that wins becomes comes a number one contender for brock listening that's where finn sailor outlast seth rollins drew mcintyre blah blah blah blah blah thin ballard wins right then they have fastlane then fen baylor who every beat it the last two right yeah let's just say it was <hes> let's just say seth rollins right seth rollins and then fin seth said you know it was 'cause drew mcintyre lobe load me that's the only reason you one gimme a one on one match fences violence do it ten be beats fastlane then then that's when paul heyman says oh we're doing this thing again you again didn't we beat you at the rumble and then that's when you didn't beat this motherfucker and then it's the demon and and then you look like you have an and brock has this like undertaker shook look on his face oh fuck i don't know if i can deal that and then that's your fucking main event yeah by the way <hes> back to you know we were mentioned daniel bryan i forgot to bring this tweet the table i wanted to bring up and you saw the promo promo <hes> is at the ultimate ones daniel bryan is the grace of all time he just put over a monstrosity of burger and they're going to sell thousands of them hashtag to read the table <hes> when he was like doing that whole bit whole nasty eichenberger the bad that yes yeah all of his local news interviews were spectacular he kept yelling over the reporters saying that they they don't want to hear the truth he is a person of truth his here to get his change to the masses and they're just like all right back to you and he's like day wanna censor me this is why they don't want to hear the truth to reporters back at the station charlie okay that was weird weird per wrestling and he's doing great about it like he makes me uncomfortable love it all right let's get into the men's roy henry pseudo did you catch that so henry suharto is the u._f._c. see lightweight champion before his fight with t. j. dillashaw he was on a flight with nikki bella they took a picture together after henry pseudo wins his championship fight he's okay nikki bella what's up daniel bryan goes does don't make me come over to the u._s. seen spank your ass where her perfume because that's the closest you're getting to my sister-in-law like he's just going on all levels he's doing the becky lynch but for the guys i love it he's killing eleven but anyhow it keeps on <hes> let's get into the men's royal rumble match and <hes> i'm going to chime in with <hes> at katie first lady had to tweet the tables that go together <hes> because we can just can't encompass this she says fun fact i believe johnny gargano candice laurey are the first husband and wife currently in w._w. next rosser to participate in the men's and women's royal rumble matches in the same year hashtag table well your window of opportunity for that to happen is very slim right there's only in two years where there's been a men and women's royal rumble yea right so husband wife team that married couple has been in the rumbled but i think a married couple has been in the same royal rumble match remember when beth phoenix eliminated the great collie and edge made his return aren't they married at that time they've already done the marriage but actually didn't want to chimed in and alastair blacken zelina vega has ticked with table if you didn't know they were married the men's row rumble match this is what i'll say about that too many wasted spots on throwaways i i get the titus o'neil of all the throwaway spots titus o'neal was the funniest pop right because you had to do he's run into the ring got it and then he still ended up going under the ring which was even the syrians up but the shelton benjamin's curt hawkins and i'll throw but in there but it's still titus o. neal's i felt like we all know like stop it and stop with every year someone has to be out in a second that's the other thing that's annoying is that's the you have these built tin spots a kofi spot someone gets eliminated in a second a comedy spot like we don't need that the other thing and this was the biggest glaring omission of the week on both shows wear oh where was adam cole if you're not gonna put adam call it wasn't taking show right does what i'm saying because if you listen after the extra segment that annexed did hype halftime when adam cole just walks out and pushes velveteen dream the fuck in place nuts and that's where so he was there we didn't use on on index takeover like you said there's five matches we don't need to start making this summer slams and row rumbles making it six seven eight matches just because so i'm fine with that right and you already had undisputed air represented totally cool but if you're going to do the rumble and have inex- t guys i don't need to see alastair black injured and losing coming out to just lose in the royal rumble that's when adam cole baby is like what we got to have somebody who gets is kicked out in the second and we got have somebody in comedy spot those lose their impact when you force it every year if you did it once three four five years it's way funnier it's way more like all my god i can't believe bugging logano way jose totally believe away yet jose was another wasted spa dammit me and he's a wasted spot period with this line gimmick that they keep trying to force when different characters it's it's not the character that keeps failing that story guys it's the storyline nobody cares about you fucking jumping out with the dance party 'cause nobody fucking does that in real life nobody four just happened once and we don't we're done with take time and we passed it conga lines if two thousand nineteen mother fuckers congo lines and been part of this and seventy nine assholes well adam adam rose it was pretty cool when he i did it in an x._t. for weeks so let's i thought the one thing yet and i get it last year adam cole was a surprise in exte- person right so two years in a row but god damnit van ryan experience i want in those fucking shows yeah with the crowd adam kobe right you know what i mean and just just that so like shelton benjamin nobody cares nobody not even the president of the shelton benjamin fan club truly believed shelton benjamin wynn in this match yes so just get him out and put in an adam cole or put in you know johnny gargano was a good surprise i was like oh oh yeah that's cool let's see what he looks like standing next to dean ambrose that's when i think the takeover call ups like in the rumble work well because then you like okay this is a midget okay this is a star you know what i mean well let's kick off with the rumble atmosphere for throw says poor j. e. s. j. double r. e. double t. t. w. w. e. double t. a._t._t. right yeah that that was good yeah i thought that was a great way to start off i even told you it was the two thousand nineteen version of jeff jarrett starting the show and it was the nineteen ninety four version of elias coming in second except just wasn't you know like you mentioned guitar shot you know we're making our predictions on the fly through text methods between and you were like guitar shot obviously didn't do that he likes sucker punched him qatar yeah they did at the second night on raw with the singing of the song i would have done if i was booking it i would have had him say like we're seeing that song have the whole fucking crowd mumble all of it until right till when they know the fucking everyone mumbles until they get to that part and then hit him with the guitar thrown that yeah yeah okay so what else happened in the room i mean okay ni- jax where do you plan on it so the one thing that i'll just say is like she's not this wasn't revolutionary china did this venus did this so i got a little bit flabbergasted and dumbfounded when everyone was no you're jack's we've done this we've done for karma norma came in the i don't know what the we added benefit was is for a longtime now because it's rumored to center around there toy deal with mattel is that there will be no direct on purpose men violence upon women right right which they went away from that and i'm glad because we're talking about ray mysterio nyah jack's people if this was Looking at these two and I'm like well yeah. Why can't I take a foot from Ramos Stereo right like it shouldn't be like a whom I go to mid hit? A woman like the main is a third of her fucking size. It couldn't hurt that God damn bad Ramos but Randy Orton is not randy. Orton is not now there is something to you can't keep sitting here. The men are equal to the women and then but we've got to protect the women from the men will then yet falls the puck and part so if she everson fucking K with the separation. I'm okay with the separation. I don't like yeah kind of sexist but the point here is no. She wants fucking match because she's a if this were real life she walks into that match because she thinks I'm big and tough and compete these motherfuckers up then tough shit. You got your ass beat by a couple of block and dudes now. I'm totally okay with that but again if we're going to say this this is why I'm not okay with it in today's current whatever we're calling this era right is if we're going to say at last year's Wrestlemainia we need to accept Nyah Jack's because of her size and she looks different and you know this is going to be geared towards obviously not thirty thirty year olds this geared towards kids well fun fat girls evolve quicker than boys and so if I see that a girl is bigger than me if I watched Niger get hit by Randy Orton that means I can hit Stacey A._C. in class because she's a little bit bigger than me. Well like we're setting. There's also the Joan try this shit at home right like who listening you can still reiterate that this is fucking performance art right yeah so there is still this and we've said it all the time like women you can't go. We are equal. I get a hit them in and they can't hit me back. Fuck Shit you right fuck you. You're get where I'm okay with it and this sounds hypocritical but I do have a little bit of wiggle on the stance is where I am okay with it. Win Stephanie McMahon Would Smack Jack Roman reigns Roman reigns can put her in a submission. You know what I'm saying like. I'm totally okay with that part. It's the we're gonNA have a match. It's Candice Lorraine Versus Rey Ministerial Fuck off. I don't WanNa see that well Tessa Blanchard. It's been fucking wrestling people left right. I know I know and so is Candice Laurey. She was doing the whole prettiest team with Joey Ryan. They're doing the inner gender I don't like it. I don't want it. I don't want it. Science says the men will always kick a woman's ass so we don't need to prove it. I've seen some women be fucking. Some dudes in my life. Trust me Tania Singer who fights in the U._F._C.. I've seen her beat the Shit Outta guys at whiskey tango plenty of times. I'm I'm just saying some that everyone you know what I mean. Of course I mean now like you see. Women go if we're going to go but I also for the so to me where the equality thing comes in is where you're like. I don't want women because you know seventy five percent or more percent of the time that men has a physical strength advantage. That's going to be up. I can see the same thing for a bigger man on a smaller man right rock listeners should not fuck and beat me up because he just can right like there's not bucking cooler either right now when that's in real life when people aren't choosing to fucking fight in sanctioned event right like therein lies the difference even if this were him in May if a woman were say I'm GonNa fight a man in the man's like you really want to do this. In the great yes okay way then she suffered by just don't want this to go down a slippery slope where Alexa Bliss got jumped by Dean Ambrose. Yes yeah the where he became uncouth and didn't age well from the you know. The attitude era is putting may young onto a fucking table. You know what I mean like guys and so of course right but then with the creative you know limitations at these writers have because obviously we've seen I feel like you start to say Nyah jags versus Dean Ambrose Okay now Alexa Bliss going through something all that aside Niger. It's a thought did what she did really well. She came in likes fucking grinning ear to ear with that shitting Grin like I'm GonNa fuck all you up for a couple of up. Tossing pucks out. Even took sold the hits well. You know what I mean like an thought she'd do well. I one of the most improved people over a very short period of time for me <music>. Oh my God what is not improved about it or her years. We've been improved buyer. She's been getting less screen time while she's getting the three segments the her presence in the ring doesn't look like I don't know what I'm fucking doing anymore right. Hurt your cater. You're wanting to hate her is improved right yeah. She's doing that well. She's doing. I'm going to be he'll thing but I think the thing being been. The most improved is that she's went from three segments. A show to one segment show. I think is perfect. Segments is that's when I start to complain. That ain't her decision that's W._W._e.. B._W._I. Character but again I'm doing what I see. You know what I'm saying yeah so I like when she's like looking girls whose like the fucker. You're GONNA do about and I like when she like you know he was fucking with Dean. She's like what what what you fucking. Come in here and do something right because you go any woman that doesn't real life. You want to look at that guy. That's kick your fucking ass understand that yeah for sure I thought also why she did hit a little bit better in my opinion <hes> in the men's row rumble then other women have in the past. I think she actually felt comfortable like I'm being honest I think sometimes because it how powerful and big she is when she does the shoulder tackle to Bailey for example she kinda kind of pulls up at the end. I think she felt like Oh. I know one hundred percent like I want to and do the shoulder tackled Arraigned York road do the pickup of ray mysterious because these guys can handle where weight classes would be more appropriate so you could have avenue the inner gender things if there was a weight class involved right like ninety three hundred and <hes> point five ounces so she's only twenty right yeah okay so seth rollins wins the rumble. <hes> I think this is the better I'd they did a good job of it came down to rollins and in Stroman and it was like Oh shit they could go either way with this right. Yeah and I didn't feel like the crowd was already turning because I felt like day probably thought what you just said where it was like Whoa who I am going to pay attention because it could go either way and I wanted to find either right right <hes> so I thought yeah I thought I thought the ending of both rumble matches were very appropriate and yes we kind of predicted that I think you predicted rollins and I think I predicted becky Lynch and so was it the most surprising outcome no but like I said sometimes you have to you can't just jump to the end you have to tell the stories to get to the end and is appropriate bread. I thought it was good. Yeah I will really come back and we're talking about our favorite things of the week <hes> when we come back and maybe we'll hit some extra things you know on Ron smackdown as as a fall out to the rumble <hes> so as not to make that just a two minute segment but <hes> <hes> I mean we went pretty Goddamn long on this Tuesday. He might be like already like kind of the royal rumble guys got it okay so <hes>. Let's see what else follow us on facebook facebook dot com slash Spanish announce table PODCASTS. We're on INSTAGRAM DOT com slash tweet table. We're GONNA take a break and we'll come back to the Spanish nance table fun fact the less people know the more they think they know this is called the dunning Krueger affect around the Spanish announce table with this podcast. I mean it's not like you have to hang you know through the break or anything like thank you yeah thank you <hes> we went long but there's so much talk about and they're still more about because we didn't even in touch on any of the fallout. We like to do a favorite thing of the week. We were doing a least favorite thing in the week but I think we've Kinda determined like they're just make sound negative and you can always pick something it sucked unless there's something drastic that we feel any talk about. We won't necessarily early like it also puts me in a negative frame of mind right like I've got to find that I thought sucked right. You know what I mean so we'll stick with the favorites and then we'll kind of mentioned some honorable mentions that could have been our favorite if our favorites weren't so God damned cool like the Spanish announce unstable Spanish now stable dot net brought to you by Tom. You WanNa go. I you want me to tell you what my favorite thing that week was. I will let you go first. How about the all right? I'm a gentleman I am getting yeah. Yeah your gentle and I'm going to go with the Becky Lynch Ronda Rousey Promo from raw because one of the major things was the coming out party for the real ron arousing. I don't mean the real Ronda Rousey like the real is related thousands of new Daniel Bryan right yeah. That's not what I mean more. As in the she got up and her goddamn grown was like oh you're the hottest thing now. I've been a fucking name for a decade. I'm going to rip your Goddamn arms off. Shove them up your ass. I'm paraphrasing. She didn't say that but you know what I'm GonNa. Kill their say is. I've always thought you know I've been watching pro pro wrestling since for as long as I can remember. I can't think of anytime ever they said kill they've said Beata days. I'm GonNa Bury You. Maybe in a business for herself and messed that up or I don't enough. She went and business for herself for went from a work to shoot railroad. Yeah I think it was a bullet points like they've been saying and they're sitting in the back going. This is why we don't do bullet points anymore right thorough thought yeah. I thought both women killed it. I agree that my biggest takeaway was like Yup. That's the Ronda Rousey that I've been waiting to see in W._W.. That was awesome. It left Becky Grigny and like you know when someone has a good comeback like when you try to insult someone and they get a good comeback and that you have just kind of grand okay right yeah that's all she felt like ledge. Yeah becky orange left with was just like we'll show you later right but matt right now so I left thinking Ronda Rousey went shoot in that Promo and it caught me off guard and it was eyebrow raising right 'cause ause. I wonder if that came out of because she was getting booed out of the building early. Promo Bailey just had to go out there and said like I heard you were doing an open challenge. She never even mentioned Jones. Bailey the fuck out. There learn solve this but so you know they do. The match becky comes out. They do the whole four thing. I saw it on screen so I was like Oh. Maybe this is leading to that but it didn't but I thought Becky Lynch also did great now again. I think she loved. I think she got left smiling because it's hard when the last person has the last word but all of what she said with the I told you I was coming back and I'm back like all of that stuff that the whole time we're together rollins. I don't need time yeah. I choose you yeah. I thought her side. I thought her side was an add. A ten and I thought Rhonda's side was twelve attitude. If I can give a shout out also to the next night on smackdown when that Charlotte come out and she was like doing the show clearly jealous but she's trying to take credit for things like oh so having and like it was the same kind of thing right. It's leaving Becky in this like I've got nothing to say and she just said fuck it sucker punch right in the Goddamn. John and I was like that's that's why she's the fuck man that is why Yep yeah say Charlotte though by the way what did you have tweet table about Charlotte at be underscore double underscored d. That's be underscored DUB. The letter B. Score Double Underscored D. E. WanNa make sure set that out so everybody can follow on twitter because he is the title sponsor of Spanish now sable dot net <hes> for the next says Jesus Charlotte go away <music> Aztec tweet the table. I don't think so I think she's still absolutely one of the best you could still argue the best at what she's doing coming out there. It's just Becky Lynn is just so on fire and has the crowd eating out of the Palmer hand right now. You have to have Charlotte out there well so you know like I said the biggest glare from the pay per view weakened was not having Adam Cole any part of any show right but the biggest glare from almost a perfect episode of smackdown was at Ascot and even show up at all those just incredibly stupid did but I think Charlotte still has a role in the story and it's just like you said they'll like I'm jealous but I'm not really jealous because really what you're dealing. Becky is what I was doing so you can. Thank me whenever you're ready play. That role exists in real life. That is a mean girls role. That should be told so I agree where it's like. I I hope she doesn't get added to the match. That's my fear is. I don't want this to get convoluted with another person. I just want becky versus Rhonda but let's not forget we have elimination chamber. We've guy fascinating and we need matches for those. I'm okay with a worried because they just might they just might make Ronda Rousey and whomever the actual final main event of Wrestlemainia this year. I'm getting that feeling that they may do that. The quota actual main event Manresa mania even though they what they have like five main events anyway but I know they're into that and then there's Charlotte's around there. There's GonNa be this almost guilt factor of not Pudding Charlotte Charlotte in that match no matter the storyline right. You're what I'm saying like. She's going to be like what the Fuck I've done all this and now I don't get that spot when you finally pull that trigger and they're going to be a good right and Rick Flair is going to be doc. Wou what the fuck right and they're just gonNA be like well. We've got a because that's what W fucking does Yeah Okay Yeah I. I'm hoping again. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but I think you know we have to more pay per view till Wrestlemainia. You can't just have becky Lynch and Rhonda just doing promos until we get wrestlemainia nine so you need something for both of them to do and that's where I how for like nine fucking weeks. Whatever's left until mania right yeah whatever yeah so that's where I hopefully we flush out this Charlotte Angle to the storyline and then by the time it's Wrestlemainia then it's just becky and Rhonda and that's why think if they do this whole four horsewoman thing? I think that's when Charlotte goes with Oscar because right now like I said Oscar was on on the show. It seems like no one's even fucking caller out right. Carmella didn't say anything she was out there. The main rose and other girl day didn't say anything about her. Naomi's not no one's going out ASCA so it has to be someone with her. Speaking of Carmella just way off topic. Stop against switchgears real quick here truth one that U._S. title. They botched that fucking pinfall situation with the rift pretty hard didn't they but I think they tried to. I think that's what they wanted us to think because everything everything else lined up so perfectly well yeah. I think that was a work whatever just odd <hes> Hey our truth is our U._S.. Wait a minute that wasn't supposed to happen and then yeah I thought it was perfect if it was a work but our truth the United States and go figure who would've guessed that why again here's the here's my beef with it and it's not him him. I'm okay with him but I've already seen his story. His story was told as our truth <hes> then he got fired two T._N._A.. Became Ron killings and he came back is our truth he peaked with capital punishment and him and MS and John Cena and all that stuff. I've seen his character. I'm fucking done with this care. Obviously putting the title on him is so they could get to this <hes> Bruce Seven Nakimora tag team. That's going to happen any anybody could have been a whole. Obviously he's attacking but it could have been could've been arrows. It could have been whoever the fuck they wanted to throw in there yeah it. Could you know I always go. It could've been easy three could have been e c three could have been any fucking buddy at all another guy this weekend that debuted on the main roster and Lacy Evans was out there why wasn't A._B._C. Three. Where's Lor Sullivan Panic Attack Jack Kennedy and that we're going to see him again? We'll get into here yeah <hes> but where was that rumble they might need to go to fifty fucking people because like where was sanity. Where was the good brothers I mean? There are so many people any I'm sorry <hes> going back to this. I just I didn't want our truth because I'm tired of our truth. I wanted a new talent to be like well. Maybe this can go somewhere. We all know this isn't going anywhere with Dr Truth. Hold it for weeks and yeah somebody's beating amid elimination chamber done. What was your favorite thing in the week? <hes> my favorite thing of the week comes from my favorite in my opinion the best show in professional wrestling or well we are the best podcast and professional wrestling but the best pro wrestling show in pro wrestling that title has been and still is going to smackdown live. My favorite thing in the week is the last segment that closed smackdown live so let's start with how we kicked off. The segment. Daniel Bryan comes out <hes> names the title daisy because it was a cow furred. She never got experienced Joyce. You only got to experience pain. I never wanted to Burger after he told me this because it made me feel sad that the crowd is sailing. Thank you daisy like thank. You thought it was great. Yeah Dow's another part where they're part of the show. I think they said recycle or they did some. They had some really good chance in there that didn't make it like overwhelming which Dale brand could have get lost. We saw Rhonda Get Lost Data Ryan's definitely on a different level but what I'm saying he went he fought through it. He didn't allow that chant to go through. He kept going to his promo going to his Promo thought his inside was great. Hey quick for you in hot off the presses. We just got another Hashtag table in live right now going back to the topic. We were just talking about at Mr Fourth row says. I wonder if little Jimmy is proud of truth U._S.. Championship win the table. I'm sure you anyway thank you again. I've seen all of our drew kind of little Jimmy but going back to Dan O'Brien Daniel Bryan first off like I said that Promo spectacular made me feel guilty those colonels a- truth makes group Promo tonight at ten <hes> but then the unveiling of the bell and we talked about this where I said it should be like a like a pea green and like a mustard-colored heard color is kind of it was more woman from following notable. Oh here we go so atmosphere fourth also said I hope the new W._W._e.. Title isn't biodegradable otherwise the longer dangle Brian is champion in my start to disappear hashtag table AM I. I want my it looks great. <hes> I sent it to my wife and she was like it looks pretty cool in those I agree I think they thought it was going to boot and even the crowd was like yeah. I like that head inviting you think that when the universal title debuted remember we all booed that anyhow so I thought the title was perfect I thought role and handing it to Daniel Bryan showing the submissive I answer to this guy I again rolling with the recycled oh in his name thousands per day him dumping it in the trash. When he did was great because you knew that was coming but he did it way before you thought he was going to do it right in the middle of zero down type of thing yeah right Oh yeah so I thought everything that he did was just spectacular and then A._J.? Styles comes out right and I was like okay okay so this is where we're going to elimination chamber then radio weren't and comes out and go to break which is weird but whatever what's that then they went to break which is weird stupid again. I don't want to like nick. Go behind the curtain but I think the segment was totally rushed. I think somewhere something got messed up because then everyone was yelling through their lines but so then Jeff Hardy comes out then Mustaf Ali tries to cut Promo. He got two seconds Jones out because again I think it was a rush segment but then on top the Oh my God fire Promo so far of two thousand nineteen Begi Lynch's was amazing Ronda Rousey. These was eyebrow raising captivating could have been a shoot <hes> memorable Samoa Joe didn't get onto that level but everything he said was a home run touchdown. Whatever sports analogy you you WANNA use their first cutting down Randy Orton saying like we haven't tangled yet but when we do know that will come out of nowhere using his own life not perfect then saying Jeff Hardy? I have no idea while you're here and Jeff Hardy trying to like well. I'm GonNa talk over you and he using that A._A.. Line on us that was the dagger that was the dagger rainy or even cracked up on Jeff did all right. We'll fuck yeah perfect line. You can tell that was an ad Lib perfect line yeah go ahead. Keep going then rolling into the ring and saying using Mustafa always perfect promo would I said was awesome about the COP. Thing seen in your eyes say I saw on your is that you were unconscious. See it. You're close show when I put your ask the sleep and then the cherry on top the callback too Windy A._J.. uh-huh Goddamn for Promo that was twenty six seconds long. I don't think you could do it any better. However there is one little thing that Mr fourth row pop but it was an little unfortunate for Joey says smokey Joe's Voice Crack when he made the boy amongst men comment Hashtag tweet the table of all the places voice get a crack it was right when he was saying that like fuck yeah but I think that was his fat transferred from the floor and it just it was so passing I and everything else thinks he was homerun that I forgot about it till I read this tweet the table <hes> but I did notice in the moment I was like woo but if anybody can make like so what a crack with a fucker you going to do about it? Here's my wallet. Here's my wife. Please me right where we get Wendy. <hes> man Samoa Joe Jr <hes> killing it that whole segment I love again. I felt like it was a little rush because I think Lee wanted to say something new there sorry kid but fucking between the Daniel Bryan unveiling that title working through a crowd that could've taken them <hes> to Samoa Joe Jr Jed decimating everyone verbally and then it leading to a bra because that's the other thing that I like to it didn't just lied to will it gives we'll make this match next week. It was hey you bitch and everyone's fighting len this is this is a good mix. I feel like for this elimination chamber coming up like I think that's a good make superstars. You've got Ordonez in there is a veteran and go hardy out. I would put with somebody else. Maybe if I could take anyone out it'll be already but yeah if I could take anyone out it would have been hardy and that's what I would put andrade and open and draw in there just to give cause again. I'm not going to end this episode on a bad note but one thing I will point out. We don't always need Mexican. Fighting Mexicans Ramos deal fight someone else yeah. I did like Andrade doing the fucking <hes> Ramos theory. Oh Shit right like that was the three Amigos perfect yeah it was. Jimmy and everything like yeah. Fuck derailing smackdown was great again. One Omission was whereas Oscar you just made demand tap out and you're not gonNA show up that that was weird but I get it's to our show I want Adam Cole in everything because Kobe is the man I'm happy. I'm excited for halftime heat. I'm excited man. Halftime heat's going to kick off a good fun little role that hopefully leads us right into wrestlemainia. You know I am more looking forward the halftime he than I am the actual Super Bowl game no I'm not you know why the Patriots always have very fun exciting football game. 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The Rack Extra Reviews: NXT Takeover 30

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The Rack Extra Reviews: NXT Takeover 30

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This would be technically their fourth show content y'all we're we're we're producing the thing, but we're not alone it's a takeover, which means we have a very, very special guest. Hailing from the Jelly Bean Gupta. The crowd chasing, but always falling and falling. The ultimate fall guy, the assistant to the assistant regional annexed the analyst. The. Came kittens. I am not tim the. Fuck a DR ground yet rock. Do you have a crowd? No but I haven't played in. Either have. Sounded played wants together. I've been helping college students Mo-. Rave but you like having a brand new NPR. mean. Yeah I mean he hooked you up man pogos. Yes you know what? It's always great. Get a new intro yet backhand with it. That's what we do here. Yeah. Yeah. I know it's what eight years now I should have known better each without. A shetlands CAIN kittens. If you would like to comment about tonight's show, we're here talking all things. Take over thirty which took place live of the w work tonight from the the full sail university. Essay now the PC nothing Amway Center ohno from wholesale from university. which honestly going from the Amway to full sail completely different experience. It's like we're the lights Oh, right right. This is a live audience right right audit but we had flames and lots and lots of flames. We did have lots and lots of planes they brought the fire boxes over and well, they kind of brought the fire on the pre show Kinda didn't bring fire but they did it was a good opening contest where you had Brazil Zongo taking on lurking in Birch and the Gado dill then Tasma. For the number one contender ship for the tag titles. So, since it was a thirty minute, pre show was like okay. Less than ten minutes GONNA. Find It. They're going to have a pretty good imagine. That's what we got. Yeah resent go came in serious yet you didn't have any of the prematch skits. You had just them coming out doing in their regular intro and getting ready to kick ass and take names I. Guess. That's what happens when you one of you almost gets -ducted by Mexican Ninjas I mean. Those good that they came in strong and stuff and I. Got The victory on on this night and they're number one, the number one contenders, which is surprising that it's a good surprise. It's a nice one because good Lord don't they deserve it. Call that one. Well, you call it because you took the tiebreaker when I call it. But the thing was is I mean we talked about it on Thursday with the preview. Breeze Longo. Has Faced imperium before and you know they were they did the little skip beforehand. But what happens if they were to face them serious now we kind of get to see that hopefully hung in to see if two guys who have been around for a little while take on the bring general's lieutenants and. Should be a hell of a match hundred spoke about them basing when they're serious. They're great even when they're not serious great. But yeah, I mean they're. Different. Yeah they've always kind of been this throwaway comedy act. They've never really given them the chance to be serious shine, and so they're gonNA do that here. I'm openness saying that because they're both extremely talented individuals tyler breeze and Fondaco got something over on their own, not as a tag team without really trying or they did try to say there was a lot of time but it's like feasibly what they both did shouldn't have worked and it did they. got. It over and then it Kinda got kyw Bosch or left behind on the main roster, and so they formed the tag team which was a joke but they got it over and then through a series of injuries and everything else kinda relegated down to an x t where they've been and they've had a much more serious vibe to them which I really liked. They still do the skits they still have fun but they're getting they're getting to Russell more. So I'm here for that, Bruce came back exceeds. So he get off the road because he now is a trainer. As his own school. So it made the sense also good to see that they found Walter. Walter in the Med from Walter is alive. We can confirm it. Alive at we can confirm because they announce it on the show NFC. K. is returning September seventeenth to w network. It's going to be out of the BT sports studios in the UK they found the prodigal children they rounded them I'm sure there's all so happy they're so happy to be back is like they started the Promo in there's Walter and it's like Oh my God there is they found him and then they show everybody else like houses or wherever they went somewhere. Cool to film and it's like Oh. Hey, look they found the roster they're all there. You'll want to didn't see Trent seven I liked valkyries segment when she's out in the field. Yeah. Somehow they got the stuff to blow up. It was just like, ooh, that's nice. I feel like they wouldn't filmed with some people and then some people just send in cellphone videos Piper yeah or some people like actually made effort into their video and like put it together and send it in. That could be the other side of it is something they're like, okay. We need you to film something for Promo Package Basically saying that you know we're covering. UK, back. So just take your cell phone out and just film a real quick thing and some people were like, oh no, we can Irvan that I can have Jairo. That's exactly what happened. We. Are Forgotten brand back. It'll be so nice More ruffling something to watch. Well I missed U K. let me. We could hold a special draft and we can draft UK wrestlers. Now does that does that mean? We get Tony Back? Yes. That doesn't mean we get Tony that. Maybe maybe we'll see if she wants to wrestle like I. Think they get they're having the same guidelines as what the US roster is, which is if you have concerns about Kobe have to Russell. But I think they're kind of expecting everybody to sort of come back to work. Tony in Valkyrie on good come calling me if if she wants to go back to UK 'cause. Maybe, she's just waiting to come back here. Maybe she's part of a certain group. We don't know without a dunk be part of it too. We don't know. We'll have to see the moving on the show opened officially opened I should say with a rather hard hitting contest. We Own backstory Brent thought. He had had all right down to the match that we hear the first matches. What Ben Maller, verses, Timothy Thatcher Right. What was your first match? Okay. Listen I. Had I had Timothy Thatcherism match to okay but but that's The trend why? You have as one. I wanted a good hot start of the North American title ladder matches number. One thought set the pace with. This is still really good first match to put on I. Am not going to knock that. This was fantastic I think my favorite part in this entire match and it's come towards the end. Is Finn's knee gets messed up in quotations messed up in the match and there's this moment between Thatcher in thin were at the exact same time. They both realize his knee messed up and Finns is get about six times as wide as they're supposed to and he starts going no, no, no, no, no no. Not like starts backing up Thatcher Casse Thatcher discharges him. To get hold of the knee and he gets it because he's like Oh wait. Now. That was just that was so good Thatcher's is lit up to and it was like. This It's like the setup who has. Missed the GRAS or Satchel rolled out of the way he hit the ground and yeah he's just holding that foot first second and all of a sudden he stops. That's your thoughts. Get Big. Get Big and like Lindsey said, it's just one of those. No no no. No. No. That's that's. Faster. FIZZ like kicking him with his good leg and everything it was. Like it was just as really great. It's not meant to be comedic. It's an absolutely great comedic moment at that point in time fence going what was the safe? What was the what was the word? There is no safe word in this match none because some of those chops to you. By just they went. They went hard all day. All night. That's the that's the other show that was on tonight rock. Sorry. Sorry sorry. But the thing is they they went out and okay. So what people have to realize what this matchup was was we know what health and. No his owl, we know his movement and he's very fast does all these different things but he went in there he rustled Timothy's Thatcher's hard hitting ground-based style. He did arm bars he did. He did submission work he did everything you would expect from Timothy Thatcher match. So what he decided okay I'm GonNa find this guy I'm GonNa Russell his style, and they went out there and had a pretty good show. If anything it shows how versatile fin really is. Because, like you said, his normal style is he's a little bit high flyer. He's hard hitting still. When he you know the shotgun or the shotgun drop drop kick into the corner, you know the the nineteen sixteen which just still looks vicious hell. But all those things are just you know they're they're a nice piece of his overall. Scheme but a lot of people associate him with you know that the top rope flip and the KHUDA Gras a lot of high flying stuff. But yet him being able to take a map based or hard hitting style match like this just shows that he can adapt to a lot of guys, different styles and that he really enjoys being home. But. We've learned we've learned since day one fin maller on an Amex takeover has a really good neck always. He always comes and delivers every single time because, okay. What regular TV is just pregnant TV, but when the cameras are the lights are on, it's a big big event like this was Taylor went out there. Hi I Russell here I'm the one people talk about no no, no high I made here. I mean, I mean, let's not wrong. Thin been. Instill is synonymous with an X T in terms of being face of the brand and I love how this match in particular and the style of it and just the presentation of it played into fens current iteration of his character, which is a much more hard hitting vicious. I don't WanNa say cruel but maybe sadistic individual were he just has no folks to give and he's just GonNa go at their beat the ever living crap out of somebody. But. It really gets you. He's willing to take as much as he's willing to give. He's not afraid of being a fight. He's okay with being a fight as long as he gets to fight and I really liked that about him like he's not trying to be the man of honor that he was he's not trying to be the demon while deem was cool. The demon kind of ran its course in wwe mainly because they kind of over expose it a little bit and when it went up to the main roster, just Kinda lost that appeal a little bit. Because it was always something really super special in annexed t and they did use it a lot of next t but you know it was always when the demon showed up somebody was gonna die that was just it. So the fact that Finn doesn't even need the demon anymore the demon and him or one essentially. I'm totally here for this I'm fine with this. Honestly I would not mind saying more matches between Timothy Patron Valor, and it'll be completely open to that. In the end from Baylor was able to pick up the victory after the nineteen sixteen DD. Love have move God that's such a good move. I love a good spike piledriver slash brain buster kind of thing. It looks so impactful especially when he delivers it, it looks like he's just burying the guy's head into the mat couple notes we need to mention. Borrowing did not call this show. He was back home with his family in Canada. That's a big deal. Big. Joseph, was play by play. Beth Phoenix was doing commentary from her home and we have third commentator choreographs. It's a little weird have Joseph sitting there. Self it is and we'll come back corey he. He has to be a part of show in with morrow. They're made the perfect time. Yup. You need that third voice. So they coordinators to come in and Commentate, which is pretty cool. So up next. For that, we had people in the crowd. Did we had Sasha unveiling the ground? Wait wasn't there something right after takeover. It's We're pleased there possibly for a reason which I'm currently hunker currently on my television at the moment. I do have one thing say about this appearance and that is the you couldn't get Sasha mask. General blamed out mask. Yeah. Like where's the Blink Tao in it's she was wearing face coverings. So she had like a band mask on which was completely fine. There's nothing wrong with what she had on, but it was just like barely sitting there in a macho man mask everybody else has masks on and it's almost like Sasha forgot her mask and so she just through the scarf Lohan real quick is she needed something price of she forgot it in the locker room and had something just for Shit. Sasha face she's like alright. Throws on you know but it was just like, yeah, it's like, wow. Okay. All right. It was just an observation. It's not it's not judging her or anything like that. It's just like y'all couldn't get her mask real quick like no, you have him. So no you have to what was the next match so the next match if I'm not mistaken which I. Was the North American championship match. That is correct I I. I'm sitting here. Turner, to remember I was reversing Adam Colon Pat McAfee in the North American title. So Anyway, your North American championship is on you the line in a ladder match as Bronson read Damian priest. Do the right, the heartbreak kid aiming I. went out. Got Canet ROC. Okay to be fair. Beth. Phoenix made the same reference meted on commentary everyone. Fella women isn't. Point seem. Damian comes out wearing his leather pants is normal but the top is the chain links that we swear to God was like early ninety Shawn Michaels probably borrowed it from Sean sounds like a kid here's something for your big moment in in the North American title match. If like mean Joe Greene throwing the Jersey to the kid in the stands Sean, just gave him one of his tits out shirts. Any basically. A priest Gargano read. Dream. In the batch velveteen Jay became I. Start cringing owner why? He was doing Scott Cider look with the shape ill at. All the bathroom I went. A disco ball bathroom it doesn't. It doesn't help his current situation now. To look creepy now, it doesn't. It doesn't think doesn't have at all those are helpless situation whatsoever. I'm sorry I'm still really surprised he got put in this match I mean I'm I'm not but I am extremely surprised given the circumstances surrounding him that they distort like we're just GonNa we're just gonNA bring you back after also Brunson read his Bam Bam bigelow. Yes he did I was going to say it was almost bordering on pin news if we want to make a real old school reference there. Bad. It wasn't terrible. Not wasn't bad. He's he's by the way whoever was yelling thick boy during his entrance please no. Gimmick name I know what? It's like. They're trying to eat out behind the colossal Bronson raid and he's standing there in all you hear is like a female voice in the crowd go just repeatedly saying. That's probably one of his best friends you know it is. Let's be completely honest. That's like somebody really good friends with them. There's like I'm GonNa yell this during your insurance because I can. It was Dakota it was the county fellow. Kiwi and he's just like damaged. Don't you have a match to prep for? So any I, mean Let's not forget him even cameron grimes sporting some new gear. Di was sporting some new gear. They all look spruced up the all look good. They dressed for the occasion and then they just went to God damn town with each other. They weren't playing safe with each other they were going. They were going pedal down I'm not sure how Cameron Grimes is still conscious. I'm just going to throw that out there. There's several spots in that match where he should not be conscious I do have to admit I loved the early spot with him when he he clears out or like everyone's in the ring or fighting amongst themselves, he goes outside the ring to grab a ladder and he gets the the we ladder essentially he and he distorts. Behind the PLEXIGLAS. This hair was it you your? God He really did escape from the white compound. Hit He. Yeah. Didn't get the full Wyatt treatment. They just kind of like they turned the oven on and he kind of left a little UN baked he's half-baked why he had stare and Bray was like. It's fine. He looks the part then they're like, oh no wait. Wait. Come back. Oh my point mantra they tested the plexiglas on this one. Yeah, they checked a ladder out of the ring and thank God. For the plexiglas or else it would have been in the fourth row and somebody would have taken a ladder to the base in the audience. So late we saw later the plexiglas doesn't quite always hold up. We we need to give a shoutout to. Mrs Wrestling Kim Lorraine. I A. Play. She comes out like cameras going for the title and everybody else's laid out except for Cameron Grimes says moment right this is his moment and so he scrambled himself up the ladder. He's got one hand on the title and then Mrs Wrestling comes out and it's like, no no, that's not yours and gets him off the ladder inserted beating him up the look on his face when she grabbed his leg and he was just like seriously. Of anyone that was going to stop him you know the pint-size pixies or the poison Pixie to stop so many it's like Oh God Damn Dammit woman and she just beat the effort living. Out of him, that was the best part he's taken. From her and he's out out now. Then, thanks to a little assist from her husband. She pulls off a Hurricane Rana from the apron and takes cameron out to the floor, which again Kudos for that one that was sweet that was really sweet and then then. So. Bronson's climbing the ladder. Janis on the ground bronchodilator Canas gets up on top of Bronson tries to stop him. He's like okay and he's he's turned around in a weird way he's not climbing the ladder normally he's doing it like backwards with his back to the ladder. Trying to just reach up for it and then she grabs a hold a, he grabs a hold of her. She's on his back and he just dive off the top of the ladder onto Johnny Gargano with candidates on his mom died for our sins tonight as I called in Splash Mountain for the Disney couple. She played ride the Kiwi. There were a couple. Spots in his one like Johnny using the latter for his. Detail thing or Get any. He actually did. Yeah. He did. That's the other spot. I think Cameron grime should not be conscious for. Go. The flipping of carbon flipping. That he caught the side of the ladder with and yet we all just went is cameron okay. Yes like oh How he needed a powder after that for just. In what they thought was going to be really cool spot was the dream valley driver by dream on. Onto somebody forget who was to be onto like, oh, he hit it just rolled off and it was He had johnny on his shoulders and it was Damian I think that was down on the ladder and it just sort of went. Did Not. Have the impact. I think if the latter broke, it would've been like holy shit put it in the break just. Bounce off. I was GONNA say there was one spot though that is been innovated in a ladder match as of tonight. And it was and it was starring yet again camera cry he's likable I'll give him that. So you get the usual to ladder spot. Side by side so you know people can climb up at and Karen knocks them both off. He then decides to climb both ladders at the same time mistake number one both guys then recover and decide they're going to get a little bit of retribution and pull the ladders apart and cameron just ends up in the splits he did not have a good night. That was not good for Cameron's rhymes. It was a week. Can we just talk about one of my favorite spots tonight because it's kind of a thing for me in ladder matches when they're doing all these dives off the ladder in, they're jumping off to each other and I'm like you're literally at the top of the ladder you could just grab the fucking title. They finally did that spot where somebody realizes they're at the top of the ladder and they can grab the title because dreams get ready to do a dive off the top and he puts his hands up in his pose and he smacks title with his hands and he's like Oh shit right? It's right here. Yeah, he was GonNa, do the purple rainmaker and it was just like wait. Oh. Oh, it's right here. Grab this real quick like. A good spot the. No go ahead I was GONNA. Say the other about that. I thought was good that you. You've seen us once before was using the hanging belt as a weapon while you're up there. It was I believe Johnny at first because I think it was Bronson was going for it. A Johnny had the you know they're both reaching fort and johnny grabs it and just. Hits Brunson read with it and read falls back and it's like I don't do that more often don't sit there in like swing your one good arm you have a weapon that has knocked people out for years. In matches if just hanging there, beat them with it. Well, the whole Johnny Cameron spot where they swollen the title back and forth and Johnny Smack Cameron in the face with it. Like that kind of stuff. But can we talk about Mister Priest who we talked about dream I? Yeah and his dive over the Plexiglas I guess. God is he okay famous gone now dream. Dream has left the film dream is in another state. Like they they legit. Sent him over the announce table he cleared the announce table guys I think from almost the center of the ring they they flung him I don't know how else to describe that other than they flung him from the center of the ring. I. WanNa say he cleared the Plexiglas you I'm not wondering percent. Sure. He clipped the glass as part of it and hit you know whatever was over there he went through. He George, he didn't go through the. Production Table. But here by the way Lindsay if you WANNA ask why was dreaming this match there? was. Just. Go ahead, I'll just say that we need you for this I I wanted to talk about Jamie and priests in his surprise pop-ups because he had to really funny ones in this match where I forget who was going for the title but he basically pops up behind them. I was cameron second was Johnny Yeah we're like for caring cameras reaching for the title and Damian. Just, legit in take almost taker AJ style pops up out of nowhere behind Cameron who's on a ladder and is like now smack and then dreams going for the title. He's got his hands up on the title and all the sudden you just Damian's hand in choke slim style grab out of nowhere out of the shot just come up and grab dream by the throat. And, there's just a random Damian priest just right there. He's just right there. He just magically teleported his ass onto that ladder I. don't even know how he did. It couldn't you and also speaking of Mister, priest and his. Abilities anytime someone tries to run up a ladder in a match like this. You go this can't go well, he runs out the ladder and does the Poncho or suicide dive whatever it was. And just it looked effortless for him. He had cameron assist him under the ladder to make sure it was stable but he's still just ran up with ease, pulled the flip out and you just went someone that big shouldn't be able to do that managed talented county he's he's talented I. Do I do want to talk about his pants because I need to speak to whomever made them because there was just way too much daily. Shit. Shit on there for them to possibly be safer a ladder match he could have caught on everything in his matt in that match and he could have lost his pants save for eleven match I mean. So he hasn't all the though. Leaking everywhere. I don't think it would say for other things he did either. Yeah. Lindsey I don't worry about those pants anymore. We'll get to that. Yeah. We'll talk about his pants her but. All these things on him, it's like he could have very easily lost his pants match not the antibody would have complained about that. But maybe next time he's going to do a lot of match. We don't put the daily bits just saying otherwise we'll see his well. I mean, I'm sure he does like his daily Bisbo. The. Entire world needs to see his dangling bits. That's why I'm saying so in the end. Damian breezes your new North America champion I'm okay with this. I'm. Surprised and happy and thrilled for him and I hope it means a new direction for him but I think everybody shined in this match I think everybody has a really positive outlook coming out of this match because they all just went in there and just nailed it johnny put on a takeover style performance and it goes right in line with him and candidates. New thing dream did dream things Bronson read look like a beast you had a cameron survive the match. Yeah everyone everyone came out looking good afterwards as we saw later in the show. Mister priest assigned to celebrate with some ladies in hot you don't take leather pants into a hot tub. Letter I don't care whatever they're supposed to be. They are not meant to go into a hot TUB. They're plastic I'm sure they came off right after the the cameras turned off and only because dad was there with him. They were still on or at least I. Hope they were. His picture. which is such a big Dick Energy Picture Like he's literally sitting in a hot of two chicks with champagne holding the title and hunters behind him pointing smirking like for fucks sake like everybody else just has the standard backstage point Damian priests in a hot. Tub Lake on. That little bit greatly. fucked. He was so confident in winning right he's so confident in winning this match that he has two girls a hot tub, a Hummer and a bucket full of champagne fucking delivered to the two full sail in anticipation of his win you've been like you do and worst case if you lose, you can go soak in your hot tub with your champagne and you're two women. Win Wins tuition that is a win. Win I mean. I'm okay with this I Damien Priests Hot Tub Ladies and gentlemen MVP tonight possibly close second probably came and grimes everything because good Lord that man should not be walking right now what's up next and again I'm trying to remember the order. So if I get a wrong I'm sorry we have the surprise of the night. Something I could argue, would potentially be match of the night. Adam Cole, versus Pat. McCarthy. So you have pat zoning interaction. Or? Just home hype permanent before the match he had his friends he added his justice for the brand t-shirt. He this friends wearing call sucks t shirts the friends were supposed to be banned but they showed how he's GonNa tell them now. Ankle. Williams just more regal do out there he had to be socially distanced. Goto I still defied William Regal. Bad. You'll murder them later by awesome. Regal back. Yes. Back so They had a really good. Match, they had the basic he'll tactics from McAfee. Do the headlock spots and whatever, and then his guys come out he has guys with them and he does all stalling techniques in, but then they. They get into it and they had a pretty good match Pat McAfee went out there doing swans off the top rope pat McAfee, is more athletic than he has any right to be. Okay. I mean he's upon her. For everyone who now, for anyone who knows punters and kickers are the laughing stock of football teams? Just because all they do is go out there and kick everyone hates them. They don't even really do conditioning and yet McAfee's going out there pulling backflips off a top ropes. What Hell I really love that Pat McAfee and Adam Cole. Wholeheartedly one for it because this could have been a simple five minute embarrassment match I think they went like what? Ten Sixteen minutes sixteen minutes a sixteen minute match between a a former football player and Adam Cole Okay and they went for it and When I say they went for it like Brennan said, Pat was doing backflips off the top ropes. They were straight up wrestling like you can tell that pat put some steriods time in some serious effort into this. He then I liked when choreographed went when they were brought, they clinched up and we're punching other they're having hockey fight and then call polls showed over macaroni and you've really doing the hockey. and. No, it really is hockey fight and then goes I. Call Got Control of this patch up and he hit some big moves and they're like two counts and colleagues over at the referee going come on. What's going on here? Are you serious? I I like how it started though like coal hits McAfee with something the ref council like one or two mcvay kicks out and coldest has the look like all right. You want some more we'll do this. It's you know you still got cocky coal in this match, but it was like you really saw that McAfee was a threat during this match for Lang for a little while yeah. Yeah. It was one of those things where McAfee. Again went through his training he knew what he was doing and it was like during the match not only was he cocky but he just he knew he just knew how to work things and how to take control of coal, who is a trained professional wrestler and when you're watching it, you're just kind of like Oh. Yeah. He's actually not bad because most people when you heard. Pack Fi you're like, oh, it's a standard celebrity match alright he'll hit about four moves but no, he has athleticism and he looked good. Really good. Yeah. I'm not saying he was you know Ronda Rousey level good when he was. Her debut but I mean against any other celebrity including. You Know Mr Mel even in that match, a mel only had like two or three moves. This was a one on one contest with someone for sixteen eighteen minutes he held his own. So he didn't. Get tired. Didn't get blown up. He was he was conditioned for this. They worked the slow enough pace where he didn't have to over exert himself all all the time stuff for when they needed and he did this on the outside one point and then he adam call shoved him off the top rope and he did that backflip and the crowd that was there went Omar God what are we seeing? Then he runs up to like he sheldon Benjamin and does a super parks. He ran up and jumped onto the top rope. Colonel Shown Benjamin spot where you run up right up to the top opened the move. And then they then they go outside and Pacos Punt Canyon and Call or call was draped over the thing. PATS on the anti goes the Puncak and he kicked the step. My foot. This wear much like in the Ballard match call. GotTa look on his face that let's. Europe. Out. To. Die. So he got the figure four smart they did have good and you know we had a low blow and got her Koga hit with the punt kick and McAfee was rented more and then well Adam. Cole. Finally took back over and super kicked him and gave him the last. Go shop and went for the pound on sunrise and beat that McAfee. McAfee in the military that was one of the nice spots when he's talking to McAfee and he goes to pull the knee pat down and they both look at it and cold kind of Gus then. You're not worth this and he gets up onto the second rope and it's just going to give him the Panama Sunrise again, the Athleticism of Pat, McAfee, to be able to pay that move off like everyone else. Good match he was in he was positioned while he did everything he needed to. You can tell he was a rookie and taking spas because they're one. The thing that we're with the were calling for like the go to sleep position on the shoulders and drop them on the day. You can see pat he flat out by as. Straight as he can take that. And I mean, we have to give for our talking about Pat McAfee, we need to talk about Adam Cole and just give him absolute props. Oh Pat through that match because he did a wonderful job of leading and carrying that match and making sure that they both came through a okay and making himself look amazing like he always does but also making pat look. Absolutely. Amazing. So massive props, Adam Cole for this because it was this was I actually really enjoyed this match like I wasn't necessarily looking forward to this because it's like you always you think it's like it's a standard celebrity match it was like. It's whatever but with this it was like, wow, this is actually this actually really good. Wow. Okay. All right. I'm here for this point needs to made you said, you thought how long do they figured what six seven minutes ten, ten minutes went sixteen that says something right there it didn't feel long. working. When you get some celebrities in there and it's like, okay, this is enough already this was like. This was perfect time well executed. Good stuff. Yeah and honestly wanted to get Pat Mac need a train. It'd be a full time wrestler. He wants eight they should let him if. He is commitments but he wants to like they could train him and actually get him up to speed. Can you imagine just based on what we saw tonight boys got some skills. Boys got some serious skills they need to think on that one I wouldn't I don't think you would be the best ever but. He's got presence he can talk. He's athletic. I think it just depends on how much time he's. He's able to commit to something like this because with his show and other things. Yeah. Here's here's comments from tonight. Pat McAfee told her she wanted to be a weapon in in Tripoli. It's he meant commentator he did pat wants to induct him into the hall of fame when he goes in AAA isn't sure what Pat McAfee future has but there definitely GonNa talk to. Seem really eager. Get back back in there like yeah. McAfee wants us. He legit retired from wrestling from from the NFL to become a superstar because he heard that the don't look at people want to get the thirty years old he wants to do the thing he's committed to it I say let him do it. Let's see what he can do shit and the thing is especially when it comes to some celebrities like you can train someone in the ring will they? Be Great some we'll have some physical limitations, but a lot of what people need to work on is that kind of presence pat has that and we learned that going into this viewed of he's able to cut a really good promo already and be just the Dick. He'll. If you want him to be he made me great leaving a stable Oh God him as the mouthpiece that, and then if need be can get in the ring, all that would be great I'm. Here to see what packed they can do. I'm I'm very here for this. So let's see if we can make this happen but moving on the. Brent scream for four years. The Annex t women's championship is on the line as EEO Sharai takes on by right go. This is what women's wrestling is other companies will hutch and pay attention. This is how you spotlight to good performers and let them go honest to God these these two women got in the ring and talking owned it. You had Raquel on the outside and she made her presence felt throughout the match but for the most part, it was Dakota it was. And they told a good story with Dakota trying to pinpoint a part of EEO and just take it away. She worked arm the entire match and it was doing all she could to just take her down. She had her help God it was so good. The very enjoyable match. The ladies went out there and they they wrestled a pretty good match. Dakota had a really good showing. You had a really good showing. We have good good submissions near falls. We had a rough bump. It wasn't a bump. It was Dakota kicked his head up the ramp wins. Had the you know the baby face airstrike getting the to count three count for count five counts account but. There was no referee then correct. Calcutta considering hits her big move drops a out the things. Okay. I got this one referee gets thrown back into position that you always wonder. What's going through the reference mine where just now thrown into position Oh. Okay. One two. Oh, kicked out. And I loved the primal scream from Dakota at that moment. It was like she had she had a close fall before that and she just had the kind of like dejection but this time she honest honestly had it. It was one of those back pins where it was just like the one two and. Kicks out into Coda just lets out this yell of disbelief and it was like you can tell that all that frustration all that time that she had considered herself quote held down just came flooding back and had a good match they delivered on the show was wasn't the massive night, but it was really well work match in the NATO cleared recount and Dakota. Kits back in the ring drops her with another moon. So retains her though yeah, I enjoy this a lot I thought this was very, very good. It was very well done. It wasn't the blow at match that I think we all thought it was going to be but that's okay that's fine. This is a first showing between to Kota Neo for the title. So there will be lots more to follow for Dakota any o both and I think maybe they were just feeling themselves out on this one or maybe this this was just all the planning to do but I like this I thought it was good I thought it was a very strong offering for both of them. And I'm excited to see more, and after the match we had recap play a factor because well, a certain Miss Ripley showed up with her black lipstick and had a little staredown with Rena. On an absolutely here for this. She also, you know kept clearing the tile to. Yeah. But she's going to take rain out. I. We had to. We had to powers in the ring and they were fighting for who was going to be on top. Yeah. I just kind of maybe want Rena Andrea and Mercedes to just get together and do thing, and we may get go. Just, all three of them underground just put the three of them on a mat and be like just kill each other just go. On. Ladies at fun. The man I wouldn't say the feud with mercedeses overrides. So they're gonNA have that match this was she was backup for you. That's all socialist go. Yes she is Rena Katameya attack on Neo after Matt. Sharia. came out to basically stop her it was the big hero spot to get the show. That's all that really. And possibly stake a claim. Yeah. So go back to the Dakota for second. This goes back to where we talk about Thursday whereas like the code has been that second level healing, she needs big moment. So that's why this match up was good Russell really well, but it was hard to really buy into photo winning at the end because she's never been given that big moment. Yeah. In that could that could be you know on the Casper or coming very soon but she's often with she's not the main event level helium so that she's still working her way into a position she second here and that's right. But the Nice thing is is they've taken the steps with her to get her you know. To the point where she is just on the cost because six months ago. If you're like Dakota, Kawhi could be possibly one of those top level heels he he were like an. But once she turned on her best friend I mean everything's possible I look like it's not hypothetical still is. Not Hypothetical when they start using it as Ammo in promos and terribly sorry Sir it is legit yet by the way the prematch Promo just showing the just owning of. The owning by Yoshahara of Dakota kyw. Thank you production team. It was so good there. Video production has been super on point lately and I love everything about it like I. Don't know. I. Don't know who's WHO's doing it if it's full sail people or if it's W. production but. y'All been putting together some awesome stuff lately. So props, props, you guys. So moving on to the main event, the match everybody was looking forward to the NFC championship is on the line as keithly takes on Carrion Cross and I'm going to say this if I get hate for it, I'm sorry but this match kind of left me. Wanting. As an opinion and it's all right but we have backstory to why it fell off. Okay. Okay time to hit about. Breaking backscratching. So If this week's injury round. So if we notice in this matchup carrying cross was. Favoring shoulder and arm as it were. Separated Shoulder Hashtag blame Brent. Said they put the title on with separated shoulder it happened during the match. Keith no carrying Oh God carrying cross separated shoulder. Well, that explains a lot that export that explain some of it but no but that means some of the big moves. No. Their styles were often this matchup between the two they were just. They as trying to. Watch. This. This had the bake fight. Feel without the big fight crowd. So the big power from moments and the big. Moment wasn't there for the crowd. So they rustled that type where you would have the bigger option. And you could have sold it but because he didn't have the crowd, you had to go to next move and the next move and move seat and into work I don't even know if it was that. To me was what what do you think? I don't know to me. It was one of those things of an I I told you guys this earlier but I'll say it here. Keith. Seems to. Flourish and work or work well, with someone who's a little quicker somewhat like him and Johnny together was a great match because Keith could keep up with the speed of Johnny while while being able to pull off the power moves I, feel like with cross when it was just power versus power and I mean we had a little bit of that with dominant but at least dominic was an agile big man again I feel like with cross being just a heavy keith really kind of had to slow down some of his stuff and it just felt off that way because even though you know carrying has the power to match him I en- Carry An. Can Move I. Don't think he can do the moves like other people can, and in a way Keith has to Kinda step out of his element to try and work with key our work with carrier Keith Work Workers Style when he's two hundred, thirty pounds instead of being three hundred and thirty pounds, which you know more what he is because that's the he works he works the tries to work style, and it just doesn't match with guy like Karen Cross who is a big powerful dude at right it doesn't work that style well, and I mean to be fair the way that we've kind of been sold. On carrying cross is he comes out and he has these relatively quick aggressive violent matches, right? Like we're used to that level of aggression in him and I just didn't see that in this and I understand he and Keith, need to be a much more equal footing because they are equals coming into this match but it was just that that viciousness that we see in carrying cross every time every time he comes out and he beats up people up like in this view, this is the guy that laid waste to the backstage and left bodies literally bodies everywhere backstage like just that someone who annihilated Tomasa CIAMPA got. That level of just. Viciousness, was just not the hair. Wasn't their night I mean some will say it's a really good match and. It it was good. Don't get me wrong, but it had a better. There could have been more special moments. A feel to it that this is just didn't have and you know it it happens and you injuries slow down the maps and stuff like that like the finish or okay like that dentures. Weird. They haven't established the back SUPLEX SS finish to make it come off as oh. My God, that's the move you mean. Well and I was GONNA. Say the thing is is like Lindsey talked about him pulling out that dooms day whatever it's called scientists suplex side of like the the problem is the fact that he throws five of them a match against the lesser talent and it's just you know one after another after another that it's like okay when he comes here and he hits the one on keys and then he goes up and hits it off the second rope you're kind of like okay. Wait that that's it. Yeah because it used to seeing it. Yeah, and and again, it didn't have the same and the injury-plagued part of it where it didn't have the same left to get them like the big off the fromm off they just sort of fell backwards in that. That's not heard it. But the injury is tentative separate shoulder. He is going to go in for an MRI, but that's went hunter believes it to me just could it could be a simple separation or depending upon how it separated there could be a little bit of tearing in their they'll need to do 'em are. Probably. Tomorrow Monday to get that all figuring out but that's the deal there. But in the end carrying out the win got the title finish on a little flat but. that. It happens sometimes everything's not going to be a home run, but it was I guess the right finish else. Because no because the comments afterwards from AAA J. when asked McKay play gave stay tuned. Yeah. He's going on and I mean. There's that piece of it and also I mean carrion. Title and being you know that big bad evil guy sitting there on top of the mountain that someone will have to take down will play out as a good story because you'll have scarlet there. That can be the antagonists you have cross just the monster and you'll build. It gives you the chance to build someone up to be the ultimate conquering hero if it is someone like a redeemed johnny or. Yet to Moscow could try and come back for the Gold Belt and get his redemption against kinross not not that kind of redemption. So, but there's many opportunities go forward. There's different counters can be different people coming in and. Who knows from the main roster could come down and Charity Challenge Karen Cross because? Coming soon, there's a draft, the next product be involved in. So you could be people come in. New matches. We don't even know yeah and I mean even after the draft with the way things are going right now they could have someone go down there and and work with cross I mean. I think potentially injury probably played a part in the finished because something just tells me that wasn't the original finish that they had planned. Ontarians not. Finish it just won't. Yeah. But I mean I still to see what he can do because I feel like it was the right move. No fenced Keith laid put Thailand carrying cross because there was really no great way to have him lose. It would almost have to be d q situation for carrying cross to lose the title and that's such a earn. Yeah. To not win the title I should say and that such a cheap way to do it, you know where a INEX-, he doesn't do those kinds of finishes for a title match. Yeah. So it's like it. was almost like kind of to win just with the level of momentum he has and he kinda has to have a longer title rain because it's like you've built him up like you said, is this monster right? He's unbeatable guy. He just goes out there and takes out whoever he wants. So you need to have somebody that can withstand anything carrying crossing, throw at them and beat him, and the question is who is that person? 'cause the other flipside of it could be could be redeemed been valor because. That could be a good one I want to suggest to names if an xt does steals from the draft. Number. One if one and only comes back, I want to see him in cross because that would be amazing. Number. Two I. Would I would love to see Kevin's versus killer cross. Those guys would kill each other and I don't mean that in a metaphorical for I mean someone will be going to prison for it. I would be down for that. So not for them going to prison, but for the Matt Yeah. For what could happen on a takeover with that? So so a few things. We are too crowd at one point. We had Jim McIntyre on announced that for a minute all the people who the Bailey Sasha's is our drew they all asked to be on the show. It's it's the big. Takeover thirty some of those for some of them that homecoming. So it's like, yeah, I want I. Want to go back to high school for a night. And Bailey sausage constantly asked to be apart of. Course they do dad we wanna come home. No Dad Dad. Don't understand we really WANNA come home. No. You're at college. Now you're not allowed, but we need to do laundry. No, there is a laundromat up the road, but dad, it's. Fine. Just, picture if they could get. The four back together. All of them are just like, no, we want to. We want to go for one night just all of us we're going reduced hunter clear spot were all coming I low key one awkward for them the Ring Becky's like super pregnant and they're all dislike putting their blessing on the baby. Forefingers on. They're like here you go like we made this. Together. No involvement. Okay. He had a little involvement, but we made this together. Our baby now especially if she's having a girl. God can you just imagine? God, that would be amazing. It's our baby now. This is completely off topic that sometimes I really wonder if somebody's ever fucked up in called hundred ad probably. They they'll call him that. So it's like Dad Sean probably has them do it. He's ready to go up and call him dad go do it do it do it? The questions. He doesn't under just earns on the questions is a dad or is it daddy? 'cause you know hundred kicks out a daddy. You know it would. Okay. Stuff can call them that and Sean say, yeah. Couple of other people that can too but. So. All `nother show. So I mean in terms of takeovers getting back on topic. Because, we all need to go that route getting back to the show. This was a good takeover I don't think I would put it up there with like above any other takeovers that have happened recently this kind of sort of middle of the road for me it wasn't like Oh my God. This super fantastic everything they did was wonderful but this wasn't a what I consider a bad takeover which even a bad takeover still like it was really fucking good. This was for me a little bit of middle of the road just because some of the matches didn't deliver the way that you wanted them to and you're like. So, I can't put it up there were on on the card every single match delivered right? Because it didn't happen at least for me. It didn't deliver, but it was a solid it was thought two and a half hour show were entertaining entertaining. Again, these takeovers you can't really judge compare them to pass takeovers because it's not the same because the big takeovers. Have the big fifteen, thousand people in the building crowd. So you know well, and and it's hard to compare sometimes show to show because the roster does flip so much and you have to just keep building the new stars that it's hard to compare you know Sammy and says Cicero to valor and Thatcher you it's it's comparing apples to I don't know about. You can hear. Plantations mangoes. Mangoes. Mangoes blueberries. CRANBERRIES Kruger's. Plantings Clinton's. Lord. So all right. I think that does it Ross. Thank Brent has stuff to reveal I. Go over something. Okay. Go over something. So we made picks and God did we make picks? I mean I'm not used to you generally having them ready. So you know. This this Sunday ever hasn't money that Sunday because I'm usually going through and trying to get the rest of them locked in because some people don't make picks until like thirty minutes before the show and now I need to listen to like fourteen shows to get all the picks because someone couldn't make nick on their show. She has issues she keeps going. She may want again knows I may have to change my pick again because they added a step. Email or just just put it in the chat. Actually. To another show, it's only thirty minutes. It's enjoyable I we were we had a good time. I, had a great time goes great. I don't really remember anything I said but you know I had a good time. Recap go in the picks. At the bottom, Lindsey Place you picked fin valor and that was it. I got one right and I knew that I knew that going in, it's like when we were starting to show is like I got. One match. But that's good. Right above her is a tie between me and an inanimate object. I tied with the eight ball Lindsey just above that is the wheel. Okay. Three three. Wheel. Rights, and then at for into is rock. Yeah. Morning Safety. Going over no offenders tweeted out. I just had two beers donut. And yet he still has like eight pack. APPS. The bastard. That does it for us for this, but we're not going anywhere. If you're listening to live. We're GONNA play for. With friends the three of US recalled live. So just don't go anywhere. then. Don't wear anymore after that. CB radio. We're here. Your picks it in for the greater than great debate. that. We're doing potatoes. God's most perfect food. Because it was national potato, day last week. Winter is anything fried. It's it is legit. God's most perfect food I mean. You can make anything at potatoes and we found sixty four six. Nine. Sixty three of them are fried. One is mashed. Sunday, they're gonNA talk about Summer Slam Monday night. Raw Post Eleven PM Eastern. 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NWA TV Announcement

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NWA TV Announcement

"If you don't know sirius x._m. Than listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news they have it all and right now. You can get your first three months of sirius x._m. Outside the car for just us one dollar go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series x._m. Streaming subscribers siriusxm no car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show weekdays from nine a._m. To two p._m. Eastern on sirius x._m. Dan nation channel one fifty six welcome to the busted open podcast. This is dave greco summer. Slam week is here join myself in w._w._e. Hall of famer mark henry at the rec room in toronto three to five pm eastern for our live summer slammed priest show on sunday condemn. The rec room is just steps away from the scotiabank. Arena the site of summer slam or you can hear the show live on sirius x._m. Fight nature channel one fifty six on today's podcast w._w._e. Hall of famer bully ray and i get you ready for annexed takeover toronto this saturday with a card we believe could steal but weekend plus the end of u._a. Made a huge announcement and the vice president joins us to give the details. The big news and x t takeover is always a big highlight of the w._w._e. Pay per view weekend and summer slam in toronto is no different bullying. I break down the card discussed the main event between adam cole and johnny gargano and speculate on a potential superstar moving to the main ross plus studio wrestling in atlanta is back courtesy of the revitalized n._w._e._a. Vice president dave will ghana joins us to give us the scoop on the return of the n._w._e._a. To your t._v. all that right now on the bus go podcast when you think of the n._w._e._a. Obviously billy corgan. President's president's done a lot of great thing that gal this your n._w._e._a. World heavyweight champion and now you're hearing that they're going to t._v. In the fall but you also think of of what i just said in georgia championship wrestling world championship wrestling that's owned by the w._w._e. You could go back and watch world championship wrestling on the w._w._e. W network and see that ten pounds of gold that is now being held by nick alvis. It's an it's a really interesting dynamic when you think about it because there's the n._w._e._a. Championship being held by nikau this. That's going to be defended on t._v. But also you see that ten pounds a golden a lot of footage image. That's owned by the w._w._e. That you could see on the w._w._e. Network is only one word that comes to mind when i think of that fascinating it really is isn't isn't it though because i'm watching that youtube exclusive or that that video that we've seen dropped at six p._m. And that was was all over social media with billy corgan showing footage of ric flair holding that title and harley race holding that title and dusty rhodes and and a lot of that footage the n._w._e._a. Now owns but the w._w._e. Owns a lot of that n._w._e._a. Footage as well so it's almost like when you go to network and you see that ten pounds of gold. It's going to be promotion for what's going to be the national wrestling national wrestling alliance on t._v. Come the fall did did you see the unedited version of the harley race. Sit down with nick alvis. Yes what did you think tremendous tremendous. It was wasn't it and hearing nick out this get emotional on our show on friday and seeing him sitting next to harley race almost in awe because that's one of the greatest n._w._f. Champions of all all time you know the mount rushmore of n._w._e._a. Champions with nick alvis now currently holding that champion and also harley race kind of looking at nikau and being appreciative of the fact that somebody like nick aldus holding that ten pounds of gold. That was a very very special moment. I thought you know it must. It must have been nice for harley who you know for years the n._w._e._a. And the n._w._e._a. World heavyweight championship seemed like he was hanging nine hanging on by a thread. There wasn't really a lot going on with it. So if you're a champion harley harley was a seven time champion correct eight time time eight time champion to be able to sit down with nick alvis and to look at nick and knowing that that ten pounds of gold is in good hands because nick at least. I looks like what a wrestler should look like. It would harley as used to. I'm sure in many ways when harley looked at the physique of a a nickel bremen nissen of looking at a rick flair somebody who paid his pitas dues in the gym and worked hard so for harley to be able to see that n._w._e._a. World heavyweight championship parked around the waist of somebody who is reminiscent of an n._w._e._a. Reser i i'm sure it warms his heart yeah and it it does does and you're right man. We've talked about it on this. Show the n._w._e._a. Was on life support for a lot of wrestling fans interview was dead. It ended it ended in the late eighties and now dave. I don't mean to cut you off. Even amongst the boys when billy corgan bought the n._w._e._a. The guys were saying saying why would you do that. What what is the asset of the n._w._e._a. What did you really have the championship because there wasn't really any strong assets of the company because it sank so far. I just wanted to throw that in to show you how much the perception was amongst the wrestling swing industry of where the n._w._e._a. Had fallen and a lot of people criticized billy corgan from what you just said like. You're just buying a name. You're just buying a title but look what he's been able able to do and now it's in the discussion. I'm not putting it on the same level as an awa w selling out arenas you know but i think the n._w._e._a. Is just like he w has been able to build their brand back because of social media and because a youtube and now that they're able to get to that next level and we talked about a._w._s. Every week you don't want to be in twenty thousand seat arenas. Maybe three to five thousand seat arenas starts slow and then maybe we'll see where we are five ten years from now n._w._e._a. Okay very smart studio wrestling bare bones but also a throwback to a different era that people are excited about very very smart decision by billy corgan and dave logan like what you're hearing. God's busted open live weekdays from nine a._m. To twelve p._m. Eastern on sirius x._m. Fight niessen channel one fifty six on demand with the theories x._m. App at six p._m. Eastern time last night the landscape of pro wrestling change range because we're going back. We're going back to the studio. We're going back to atlanta with n._w._e._a. Wrestling into talk about it the v._p. <hes> pity of the n._w._e._a. Himself the legendary dave logan dave. How are you today. Hello mr greg how are you. It's good. It's good good to hear from you dave. How's everything going good. I figured i'd be hearing about you and me up for free tickets for something <hes>. It's good to talk to you about business which is awesome so very excited duck well. You're gonna get a lot of phone calls from come the end of september beginning of october because i'm sure there's gonna be some seats to fill and the greco should be one of them well. It's <hes> well you. You've been a fan of studio wrestling. It's not a it's not a lot of seats and i think that's what we're our. Approach was to go back to. We use the term generational memories and it's something with music television hamburger joints you know everyone has these warm and fuzzy feelings about these brands and these moments and <hes> for us. This makes the most sense this is not a. It's not a new idea for us. We've been talking about studio wrestling for over two years and very exciting to do it in in atlanta. Just it would be it made the most sense in the world and and dave listen. There's a lot to talk about with the n._w._e._a. In the future of the n._w._e._a. Anyway because i think the future of the n._w._e._a.'s in very good hands especially the way this roster is being built but to go back to this for a second because it's significant when so you throw out atlanta and you throw out you know studio wrestling and i said this on my social media platform david greco one last night and it's the truth i i started getting phone calls and text messages from from friends jonathan from e._s._p._n. And chicago called me immediately because this does bring back commemorations of when we were growing up and falling in love with the sport when you say atlanta and you say studio wrestling it is going to be nostalgic when it comes to certain certain wrestling fans well and it's it's it's what it is. We didn't buy a world class. Wrestling in by each we bought a we bought a brand that is is very well known in a certain area for a certain time period and i think the lesson we learned with broccoli and put his picture up yesterday these fathers and sons who came to the crockett cup and you know these fathers who were my age in their mid forties bring in their sons to the end of u._a. And you know that's how this gets passed down and and i think a brand that is accessible for fathers to share with their sons. You know what they love is something i think in this time period is really great and it's again not seoul audience target but it's it's really a unique time to be creating this marketplace and you know we've been we've been targeting the show for a while and and did the opportunity came up and you know this is this is billy decided you know what we're gonna do it on our own and i know a lot of people have a lot of questions on where how what were you know why the why is simple. We wanna prove that what we've been executing for two years to rebuild this brand is what you will see in the television problem. Dave i think i would like to know fans would like to know where unless you said that already and i missed it where is to be <hes> where is to be revealed revealed when the timing is right but it's funny when you say you know coming to television. Everything's on television right now this this. This show is on television. I believe serious as an app. It's on apple t._v. You guys are on television. The the landscape is changed. You know getting on a cable network just to put a show on because that's what you did didn't ninety eighty seventies the world changes and and i think as you guys were talking about before i came on. You know we bought this brand. Everyone scoffed at us. Everyone everyone goes well. What are they gonna make money with that. You know we have a much different plan of this and so for us. This show will be acceptable to many people as possible and we want to remain the main as much in control of the product is possible and that's that's why we're doing it this way so let me ask you this with a place in atlanta like centerstage where <hes> <hes> w._c._w. Used to do television tapings. Would that be too big of a place for you or you're looking for something a little bit more <hes> confined an intimate we we wanted to be as close to <hes> the georgia championship wrestling and the tech would show and then the full disclosure or you know billy nine met with turner back in december of twenty seventeen. Actually i think i did your guy show. The day we went to meet with turner sports <hes> <hes> to explore doing this show they called us and they wanted to a produce a studio wrestling show for bleacher report lies ultimately ultimately when the merger with a._t. And t. happened <hes> everything was sort of put on hold and obviously they've. They've decided to go with a._w._s. Awesome because that is a much more blown out show for you table. Our our goal is to bring back studio arrested. We looked at the same room that they did. <hes> what the georgia championship wrestling and the old six i shall it's still there. It's in the mansion. The place the place we've securities very close literally the same street arou- and i think people will you know i think it's gonna be really cool and it's going to be very intimate thing. I don't think it'll be more than two hundred people there. Now that is a that's me will be very <hes> rate. Audience is to be there because it's history and and that is our vision since day one because we see this you see this as a real opportunity to to put back in the parents hands the the ability to not only just sell tickets convey their message. That's why part of the video one of the last things we had yesterday was that montage of those guys cutting promos because in that day that's how you made your that's how you made money. It wasn't an gyp it was it was talking people into the building the banger sheraton. That's the vibe of this show. That's what we want. Because could we think there are enough talented. People that really connects with you also to <hes> billy corgan mentioned about when this does start art unscripted uncensored like really getting to know these personalities on a different level than what we're used to and i'm sure that's a goal because when a wrestling sling fan here's unscripted right away that brings a smile from ear to ear because of what wrestling fans have been experiencing over the last decade and and and by the way you know when people used to talk about me ten years ago i was a w._w._e. Writer and you know bullying those from working with me and w._b. And then obviously see our time and bring him honor you know we really unique approach to making content with people and you know when when i would bully bully say what you want to say and then we'll make could better you know just to we'll take what you're gonna say and elevated once you say into a piece of content that makes it even better and you know their ability to have a gordon soley like man show where in front of a studio audience talent will either get over or not on their own beliefs and we're going to give penalties opportunity. If you look at the people that we've already assembled you nichole ally drake james storm these guys can talk and that is a very hard skill to find because i always say mainly the last three great independent wrestling crumlish. You see it's hard. She struggled because a lot of towns spend more time working on their four fifty then their ability to talk somebody into the building and i think this is where we can have a competitive because i think people want to be emotionally invested in their product upped and for the hate the term casual fan thrown around but for somebody to really invest with somebody they need another story and they have to talk to uh-huh because ultimately that's what separates us. Everybody is the way we communicate dave. You mentioned <hes> nick albus. You mentioned eli. You mentioned james storm. Three great names really solid foundation for what you guys want to do. Obviously all three of them can get it done. In the ring more importantly all three three of them can get it done on the microphone however there's not a lot of talent available out there that hasn't been scooped up already or put under contract. Who are you looking for. What type of performer are you looking for. Are you looking for more the pro wrestler or you're looking for the sports entertainer. I think we're looking for and we have a couple of people. We have under deals that we have field yet. You know like the the idea with having having next year james those are those are known people like james storm is one of the best assets out there right now because he's he has over was almost twenty years of television experience and television to value off spiked all that we wanna use those towns to help get a new town that most people haven't even seen before we're looking for people that have a character that translates in it and the digital age that was believable <hes> and i've seen this debate over a real name versus whatever we want people that will connect with an audience and people care about what they do and you know for who it is. It's it's really thing it's always funny. When we put these announcements <music> out i i hear from everybody and everyone's looking for work and that's great and i i immediately look for social media immediately look at their <hes> what they're putting out and usually my first telltale sign if the majority of what they post is a poster with them and thirty eight other people. It's an immediate no thank you because they they aren't promoting themselves but if they're cutting promos doing something unique and special those are the people who wanna work with dave have we come full circle when it comes to pro wrestling and i mean it this this way studio wrestling was always the foundation of pro wrestling. That's what we watch that grew up on because the center of attention was what was going on in the ring and that was going going on on that microphone then once we got to the like delayed eighties. The big crowds in the arenas in the stadiums. Now we see what we kinda. Get in a lot of wrestling environments where where the focus seems to be on the fans. The fans are lit up. The fans have their chant. They take over what's going on in the ring. They want their voices heard. Is this kind going back to not only the foundation of where we were in the seventies and eighties but also making the focus of what's going on in the ring and on the microphone. I think we're the way we look at approach. I think you know obviously this is you know and and it shouldn't be lost on people <hes> the dates dates of we're doing these shows the we're we're we're jumping into the time of the is the most pivotal week in pro wrestling since the <music> obviously the monday night wars and then obviously black saturday and this that week you know this is this is a time for us the burger analogy you know everyone everyone has their opinion on which which brand is better like burger king mcdonalds wal burgers in and out the way we look at it is worse simply like an in and out burger where we want to put together a really quality product with with service for our and a very clear brian strategy so for me and the end to be way and billy really this is why we laser targeted you in and out burger. You know exactly what you're going to have this this this this and that's what people know the n._b._a. For if we if we announced we're gonna run the wells spargo center and guess what there's only two hundred people there then no but this is what people grew up at the end of u._a. And those promos that style because we you know we have an ability to to have talents execute that and it really works in the creative older billion. I wanna pull off with this dave. Will you be handling creative yourself yourself or will you assemble a team. It seems lately like the more people that are part of our creative team more watered down product could be will you just his spear headed yourself. Our process will be no different today than it was two years ago. It's billion. I in any counts who are involved are equally involved. I'm telling their story and i think that's what's really been able to attract a a nick. All this james storm and eli drake had many opportunities. You look at the landscape and and really what we want to be. Is this place that talents can either find themselves create a whole new impression of themselves. I mean nick all this was out of the business. I think the business when i called he was done. He was impacted. Put a such a sour taste in his mouth you know and he was done and we have the ability and and you know a quick side note <hes> literally transferring from harley racist you know yesterday and you know for for nick to be able to come full circle with harley. Who was somebody to help train and you know the one of the very first time it came to america. It was hardly went to harley race. His campaign spent time with harley and they're to be not only got to be doing one of the last interviews with harley but to be able to d the end to be way world champion being able to pay respects barley rates alongside the undertake ric flair ricky steamboat ted b._b. Aussie and others you know that's that's the opportunity to give guys in new fresh chance to really create a new legacy for them. That's what we say traditional legacy. That's what this she's about is creating a whole new legacy of business well dave. We really appreciate it. We're excited about this news. I know i am. I know a lot of our fans are excited about what's going to take place in in the fall. I got my n._w._e._a. T shirt on that. I actually paid for bali by the way it wasn't given to me for free i paid for it and i'm really excited about it and please keep us updated 'cause we will. You'll hear a lot more trust me. That was the reason we only release that little bit investigation because we want we want. We want to build anticipation dissipation in trust me. You'll hear more in the next six to eight weeks all right dave. We're gonna the v._p. Of the n._w._e._a. With some big news of what's happening in a huge huge for for pro wrestling dave thank you so much for the time we really appreciate it. Thanks guys. I appreciate it. Thanks if you don't know sirius x._m. Than listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk 'n news they had it. All a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy sirius x._m. But you don't you listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three months of sirius sirius x._m. Outside the car for just one dollars just go to siriusxm dot com slash busted offer details and to subscribe you. Listen on your phone at home and online that siriusxm accent dot com slash plus did offer available to new series exempt streaming subscribers siriusxm. No car required your main event for an takeover in toronto. Adam cole johnny gargano adam cole your champion two out of three falls. We know what the two i two falls you. You gotta be because gargano chose streetfight. Adam cole chose chose a singles match. That's very interesting. Their choices and then william regal will make the third full if it comes to that. What are you expecting in that main event on saturday night so we thought that the first two stipulations would probably be gimmicky because william regal is our traditional wrestler's wrestler he would have probably made it an ironman right yup but if the second fall is just a straight up singles match then the ironman kind be kind of becomes i get i guess not similar similar. I guess exactly there you go. Thank you very much too similar so do we finish it off with a ladder match he might. I thought you would try to do a scale down gimmick. Put i think you're right with one being a street fighting other adam cole choosing a singles match. It was very very interesting so yes. Maybe we do get a ladder match because listen if they're gonna beat the crap out of each other in the street fight okay and then they're going to have to wrestle so we've gotten our violence and we've gotten our traditional wrestling now. We need something kinda gimmicky hopefully they don't do spin the wheel make the deal and comes up coal miner's glove. I'm thinking a ladder match will be an exciting way to finish off that third fall and it's a great observation association because with that i you're getting that streetfight so it's going to be brutal you would think it would be the other way around that it would be the singles match first and then the street fight so you're gonna get that violence first and then you're gonna get the simplest unless they change it up which is very very possible but william regal who i would think would choose something like an iron man match or just as regular singles match. He might be the one that gets kinda gimmicky in that situation for third fall. If there is a third fall on saturday okay so i'm a little confused so we're not for sure starting off with the streetfight i the way they presented resented. I think the street fight starts off but all i know is that gargano and call gargano chose. I t chose streetfight and cole chose the singles match approach. I love the fact that they're going to do it. Out of traditional order logic would dictate singles match. I then street fight then bigger gimmick gimmick match to blow it off. I like starting off with the streetfight because you're starting off hot and heavy tejas violence anything goes you're gonna bring the crowd way up and then when both guys are battered and bruised now they have to rely on their wrestling ability their head locks in their go behinds in their hamill walks and their takeover takeovers in their tackle dropdown hip toss andre body slam leapfrog tackle one to get it again brother then when both guys are completely blown now here comes regal and gives people you know a frigging william real comes out and says and the third floor would be a ladder match. That's being like do people are gonna go crazy for it and you know what talking about playing to the strengths of combatants in the ring street because this is a bit of a blood feud between these two and then a singles match because both adam cole and johnny gargano are tremendous wrestlers. So why wouldn't you wanna play to their strengths and they're doing it with this. Two two out of three falls match. Is there any type of ladder match table match or gimmicky match on the main roster show now you got you got you have two singles batches a triple threat match and the tag team match and that's exactly why this latter match will fit perfectly because they're not getting it the rest of the weekend now. We don't know for sure if it's going to be a ladder match where just speculating but i think that would play to both of those guys strengths. I mean everything that they do is is a strength there. There are no weaknesses those two performance because they tear the house down every time they're out there together. I like the idea of the ladder match. I mean obviously if it was gonna to be a cage match via cage hanging over the ring and they'd be kind of staging it off and other than the ladder match. I don't know you know what it would be. I mean it's interesting and and good job by keeping that you speculating even going into the show. 'cause you're not gonna know what that final fall is going to be until it actually happens. Do you think people would feel let down if they didn't get the third fall what if gargano or coal win the first and second fall and the match comes to an end it's interesting and why because you heard it and what was we just played from annexed takeover. Twenty-five adam cole has a lot of ads so if if you were to say well you know gargano won the two falls and he's the winner of the annexed next championship. I'm sure there would be people disappointed just in the fact that not everybody is going to be cheering for johnny gargano on saturday. Listen i agree with you. I'm i'm just thinking outside of the boxes there some way they go in a different direction. I think the right way to go is with all three falls other than the ladder match. I mean maybe c._b._s. T._l._c. match that would get people amped up. That'd be a hell of a way to finish it. I i really i'm not quite sure what else they would do is we we we could come up with other ideas. They could have a a no holds barred match which i can't stand and that's the thing william regal said and maybe i'm reading too much into it. He said when it comes to that third fall he goes let the best if it comes to that third four let the best man win so when you hear that come to the third four third fall let the best man and win. Maybe it's not as gimmicky as we think. Maybe could. It be an iron man match if i hear let the best man when i'm thinking iron ironman match. I'm thinking traditional pro wrestling. I'm thinking i'm thinking who can score the most pin falls in a half an hour or an hour our however long they they go with it but if that was the case i wouldn't wanna see one of the prior falls just being straight straight up singles match. It's gonna be interesting either way. Like what you're hearing. God's busted open live weekdays from nine a._m. To twelve p._m. Eastern on sirius x._m. I am finding these channel one fifty six or on demand with the sirius x._m. Once we get past the next takeover in toronto we may be losing. I'm a couple of the key members to the annex t brand name may be moving over to the main roster sooner rather than later as far as is. Maybe even as close as this next weekend based on what you just said what if william regal made the third fall loser leaves an x. t. out awesome and i'm gonna tell you why bali if you watched annex t last night they had to as i said earlier earlier in the show amazing video packages of adam cole and johnny gargano and it wasn't so much about the match. That's taking place on saturday night. It's about how much adam cole gargano mean to an extent especially johnny gargano how he's a teacher a mentor mentor what he does for that roster what you just said and it goes to ties into what william regal said may the best ban win. I love the stipulation and let's see if we can tie this in what some outside out of the box thinking is ciampa anywhere near ready to come back that do not know we saw ciampa and gargano gano on the main roster together right yes if he was ready to come back and gargano were to lose news as a way to get him back to the main roster. All i know is this and i'm not saying you're wrong. I like like the step by step. I mean i don't wanna think that deep into it because i actually when it comes to annex t i liked the story progression and i like where you're going thing but what annex t was able to do last night we think of annex t like all right. These wrestlers are are are ready to move on and come to the main roster like a velveteen alvetina dream. It wouldn't work this stipulation but wait a minute. Oh sorry go ahead because because the velveteen dream wants to move to the main roster you know what i'm sayin in like you could tell that's his dream. That's where he wants to go next. When you watch an adam cole and johnny gargano they're all about the tea brand so that stipulation appellation will actually mean something. Would it mean anything in any kind of match. 'cause you're waiting for them to move on especially johnny gargano he would be heartbroken if he had to leave annexed he even said it in that video package he looks at the walls and about all the superstars that started with annex t and then moved on to the main roster but for him. It's all about that brand if you have a stipulation where he now has to leave annexed and leave without finishing the job that he was able to start a not accomplish to me. That's a stipulation that really works. It's kind of like that one i do. I like that one. I liked that one better than the ladder match. Let's go out because in in because you could always frame it in a way by by losing and having to leave an x t you're actually winning in a way by getting to go to the main roster yeah one hundred percent true and and you're winning by your by losing your winning by going to the main roster not when it comes to johnny gargano argana. Let's go out to jay in saint louis j. What did you say about annex t takeover buddy more in day more doing today morning cornyn <hes> i wash n._f._c. last night and i loved all the video packages. They had for the different matches for this weekend. <hes> i really loved how when they were breaking down coal and they were showing jarrai talking to set rounds talking to finn baylor and those relationships and how they've grown sense <hes> johnny got there <hes> i also <hes> i love the loser leaves an x t <hes> stip <hes> for that match. I also think it's also as the story in the drama if they don't announce it until that night real comes out and says lose relieves all all of a sudden like you know. It's one thing to prepare to possibly lose and have to leave in x._t. But to find out that night if you lose this next batch you're gone. I i mean what emotion and drama that would build for that match and the other thing. I wanna ask you about real quick. <hes> i love the street profits and undisputed era contract signed the last night. I thought it was great work from both teams especially the street profits. I really like how they've brought. The street profits up to the main roster and even though they're not wrestling. They're showing their personality. We do you guys think they should bring you know they didn't use a video package to bring these guys up. They just been showing them in backstage segments. Do you think for other teams. They had that that kind of personality instead of showing video package for them. That's pre taste and possibly feel spoiled list. What do you think about other you know. Future talent being brought up in that same way with the sri profits it. It's it's a good question and thank you so much for the phone. Call and enjoy all the wrestling that we're gonna see this weekend jay because i think it's a win win win because you look at the street profits. I mean think about that. They're mainstays on row without even being on raw. I mean you know seeing them. In the back back in those entertainment entertaining segments people love street profits and they've been introduced in a big way to that mainstream audience in the main roster audience audience but at the same time especially judging by what we saw last night on the way the w._w._e. Does these video packages. That's a great way to introduce characters. There's an personality. I think both ways work. I think what they're doing with the street. Profit is the modern day version of what they used to do. Back in the day with vignettes remember when a new character was coming into the w._w._e. Or territory you'd see weeks and weeks of vignettes to build them up. Hell i remember when hacksaw jim duggan came into the w._w._e. They had about ten weeks of vignettes yup traducing debut matching well instead of doing vignettes with the street st profits that are offsite and kinda cold. You have the street profits they're reacting to what's going on during the night and actually intermingling with with the other superstars thus giving the prophets the rub so it's a modern day vignette yeah and i think it's i think it's working. Thanks for listening listening. Catch us weekdays on busted open from nine a._m. To twelve p._m. Eastern on sirius x._m. By nation channel one fifty six the busted open podcast.

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But I really believe that been. Baylor has really come into his own. People have wanted Prince devitt gain a lot of prince devitt in this new battle with the brand shocking a wrestling match that steals the show that happens right from time to time a wrestling match in a wrestling ring a wrestling arena. Also I just think the annex t brand is not less than I think the next he ran every time you have a show like this like takeover to their big events that they have including Wednesday nights. I just think we continue to see the annex t ran on the same level as Ron smackdown annex t performance go out there and they have brand pride and they continue to show why they are the underdog but are going to take over this business and a couple more years. Tommy. The women's match up for the next championship were rea- Ripley on Bianco Bel Air. That was a really solid match. Those two have been the MVP's annex t and of course Charlotte flare. You gotta stick your nose where it doesn't believe. Thanks for checking out the busted open. Podcast forget nine o'clock. Am Eastern time is where you hear a busted open every day Monday through Saturday on fire Nation Sirius? Xm Channel One fifty. Six Adam Cole retains his championship as you're listening to busted open along with Tommy Dreamer Jonathan Hood in with you. Eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three. Tommy. You just one thing. I knew that Ellen Annex t takeover Portland that chopper as well as Gargano. We're going to have probably the best matches because they are the veterans of that particular brand. We knew that they were going to be able to have great matches. But Adam Cole Champa they just went far beyond what I thought they would and that was a great match from start to finish off the charts great and physical and you know I've known trump a long time and he coming off of a neck. Injury is is hard and you know. He's had a knee injury neck injury. The one when he gave that wheelbarrow suplex on the announce table You know a lot of people think when you go through a table. It doesn't hurt it. Does it kind of always knocks the wind out of you. And they're always there's the The intangible factor of where's the would gonNA break? Where is your body going to get pieces of wood in it? And there's like a thud in your body every time you go through it those. Wwe announced tables. They are real deal and when it's also something called physics. A lot of the annex t guys are lighter but man that wheelbarrow suplex that was on the hardest part of that table and on the edge and that is real steel. It's not a prop. It's real and when I saw him take that and for me and I don't I don't sell or jump for anything and I was just like Whoa. That was rough and just to continue and tell the story of like his arm might be messed up. Because when you're having issues with your knackery having some you know where if you get trauma or just from discus use your hands and your arm do go numb even when me when I'm playing video games now if I have my arms propped up the wrong way my elbows in my hands start going numb and That's just from years of wrestling. I broke my neck and my back but I've never had a surgery. I'm GonNa keep on going until I need my life after me like a bully ray thoughts and prayers but with Giampa man. What a story. They've they told and I actually learned something from an xt takeover as a booker Moore has also someone who writes television shows to those matches on the card were both decided by outside interference and this was one of them and it was. It was big it. Was you know Johnny Gargano? Turning heel or you know he has been everything to to the fans and end to that brand and him turning heel but what I'm saying as they close the show really. I mean following a match with outside interference and there was you know in the women's match outside interference to where normally people And even people within the industry would always be like. Oh man we can't just like and to show outside interference or we can't do stuff like that because for a long time it actually was hurting like let's say the WCW product because they would always have run ins all that stuff all it done right done properly and where you wanNA tell your story. It made you mad. It made you mad that match and that guy did not win the title because of that. And that's what it's set to do and a lot of times when you know if I have reservations about doing something like that it proved to me that you know old school. Never die and stuff like that. Israel you know you look at the situation with the Houston Astros in baseball and everyone is calling them out as cheaters into the world series Is Tainted guys are now saying I should have been. Mvp A blue jays. Pitcher is now suing the astros because he got rang up for seven runs. He never pitched in the majors again any same because they cheated they cheated him out of what could have been a great career for him and but think about what the the Houston Astros. Did they cheated and people now want retribution on them. You can't you. Can't everybody in baseball. Fight them though. I think there's going to be a lot of being bowl this year but in wrestling we can do that. Because nobody likes. Cheaters and Gargano screwing over CIAMPA keeps coal and undisputed going there direction and you know now. Ciampa and Gargano their feud and their whole relationship just continues to go in different levels and it's it's great. It's great storytelling. It is a one point on that you're talking about Tom. Is that you know growing up watching the way and being a WCW Fan at the time it is. It's true that when you go to a house show when nitro would be in town that the first thing I would do is look down the ramp or looked into locker Mary because he knew it was going to be outside interference. Just like in one thousand nine hundred billion people were just looking down. The ramp is waiting for the horsemen. That come down because they're looking at what's out in the rain waiting for the interference so it was going to happen. In this instance as we watched the main event with Colin chopper. The story was told when you saw four on one in the thing I was thinking about. Watching this is is anybody GONNA help. Champa is he's he's GonNa be there by himself. Where is Gargano? Where are his friends? There's Gargano he's going to help Otit. Ju Ju just so there it gave me the emotional roller coaster of this guy is going to get screwed here because it's four on one the referee's not getting these other three. Outta here it should be just one on one but you know what here's Gargano because he's going to even the score and then just like that just just I didn't expect it and so that's why it was big for me to watch that in the way ended. So now we get another chapter of Ciampa Gargano and you know what? I'm not mad at it. Because we know what they can do when they're in the ring together. Man That feud is going to be off the charts just like that match was and like you said earlier. Adam Cole And they what a great job again. The storytellers the commentators did telling us like. Hey Adam Cole. In his tenth match he beat Alistair Black. And we all know the push. Alastair Black is getting Hell Adam Cole or guy beat him and you know when you talked about the the Portland crowd. You're correct they are. They were the sixth man. If we're going to you know like the Seattle seahawks football I'm sorry not the six-man the sorry hit the microphone. I do all these things. It's okay I'm not a professional radio. I get very very into show. I have not eaten yet. I got to New People here working with me and everyone who's calling. This is not. Gabby guys stop Connor. Gabby she doesn't like it. She's already getting mad. She's rolling her eyes. I gotta work with these people. Mike's GonNa Start Shooting on me's guy come on now we're already so anyway Adam Cole doing a great job as the bad guy and with the the the rest the the wrestling fans in Portland man. They were cheering. They were booing. They were just enjoying everybody. Everybody was a main of enter. And you know I say this from my experience at sea w we never had like the money of wwe or the money of a WCW but the product. We went out there and busted our asses to prove that. Hey where the where were the brand. Everyone was talking about and they did that. And Adam Cole. When they're talking about how many main events he's main event it in already and the future is the limit and there were so many when we talk about storytelling and he's been on the show talking about like Shawn Michaels influence. There was one moment. where he hit Ciampa with with with a move and CIAMPA kicked out and Cole sat up and like the way his hair was and there was a profile shot and it reminded me of Shawn Michaels. I'm sitting there saying like. Wow because he always did remind me of a younger Shawn Michaels. And when I'm sorry when Shawn Michaels was young and he was just like that fustration and that exhaustion of you know. 'cause it's real those two guys put on one hell of a performance and you could see that like it's like Oh. How was this match going to end? Where's IT GONNA go? It took US I. It took me and it took you and we've been watching wrestling along time on this emotional rollercoaster I've worked with both guys. I hired one into wwe. And I was like Damn what a great great performance by two guys who I don't when you when you see guys at first you don't think they can evolve away. They did but those two guys truly our main eventers and truly are champions but actually one guy actually holds the title and the and the other part about I don't mean to ramble with this but I I loved it so much Like you said when Gargano came down everyone was so excited when he slid the Belton. If you think about that that was like and the camera angles and then when he went and grabbed the title and then all of a sudden gargano grabs. Like what are you doing dude like? You're supposed to be my friend. That is lost art of storytelling. Because it wasn't like the old school you turn your back and I hit you it was. I'm going to win this title. 'cause that's chump over talks about and then that's a big big pawn to the story going forward with Tommy Dreamer childhood with you here on busted open a series six nation. One fifty six phone lines open for eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three eight seven seven three four four four eight nine. Three is our phone number and the key to all of this Tommy. The key to all of this was the Promo in the build for this. It still matters in twenty twenty about that just to have CIAMPA having that Promo the week before Wednesday before the event and then being able to hear from Adam Cole and what he's been going through with team champion trying to hold on that championship. All of this is great but you have to have promos to be able sell even more so I mean you these all could have been cold matches and still would have been great but what really sets it off is when you have the spoken word. It still matters when you look in the eye as a fan when I'm watching these broadcasts watching these shows and you tell me I'm going to beat this guy's ass or I'm GonNa win this match because this this is the story. I'm telling and this is why this matched important to me. All I think that the packages and the promos. I want to see more of that. Because that's the stuff that we grew up on. It was one thing to watch. The match was the anticipation and the spoken word. That still matters to me as a wrestling fan. It's being able to talk to ashes into the seeds. And you know we were off the air talking and here and there are millions of 'em a fighters but I don't follow it as much as I used to. But you know I know the people who talk trash the connor in that and that's why they are where there are the Mcgregor's you know we're just talking about king mo and You know he not only would kick your ass but he would talk the talk and that goes back to the ric flair's if you WANNA go away way back. The showmanship of professional wrestling was a gorgeous George and then promos everyone stole from. Muhammad Ali added their own twists. You know from from or I should say borrowed From the dusty roses to the Hulk Hogan superstar billy. Graham's they all just you know took that over the top persona but they backed it up in the ring and just like chump just call. They backed it up in the ring. Mike what you're hearing catch busted open live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm FIGHT Nation Channel. One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius Xm APP. What a great weekend for the city. Everybody's here the if the whole family reunion of the whole family of NBA past and present. Where here in the city every bar restaurant filled every LIMO EVERY UBER every lift? It was just crazy this week and on top of that. Of course the auto show too so it was just the whole downtown area. Tom Is just crazy. I'll be there for C. Two E. C. to eat to weaken and whether he ws got a paper you're there I'll be there for all that stuff so looking forward to comeback Chicago even though in negative. Tell you something I say. This all the time I go to sporting events I have such more of an appreciation for the fans and I can't thank them enough for what they go to go through to go to an event I actually went to soldier field when they play the cowboys on a Thursday night and seventy five dollars to park my car. I could not believe it and it wasn't like it was close either. I had a walk a frigging mile to get to the stadium but then just like waiting in traffic and doing all that and just having the energy for like the FANS I. I've wrestled in in Portland and you know. That venue is a cool venue but You know in and out of that city is kind of tight and just you know to have that enthusiasm that you are truly in great fans for that because warfare and it's rough. I don't know how much they charge a park in that day but I was pissed gift. You can follow us on twitter at the time dreamer at tweet. Jay Hood at Busted Open Radio. Eight seven seven three four eight nine three here on busted. Open this presidents day edition. We're glad that you're with us as we talk about annex t takeover in Portland Themed Ballard. Gets Johnny. Gargano was another great match? I knew that Champa and Gargano going to have the best mattress because you trust those to to be able to tell stories in the ring. That's no shot at the rest of that crew or that particular locker room but we just know that we've seen the best of the on these takeovers from those two. So we see Ballard Johnny Gargano you get this every now and then Tommy. From time to time people will say man. I wish we can get that Finn Bala- we saw in Japan that that Prince Devitt that that guy because he was dangerous because when he was in the ring you knew that he's going to give his all and it's taking a while Finn Ballot to get his footing. I think in the WWe. Keep in. Mind that if it's Vince McMahon product. No matter where you Russell before more times than not you're going to be something different. You're going to wrestle their style. You'RE GONNA have their name and you're GonNa do a little bit differently than you did in the independence or overseas someplace so. I think that this is the closest to Prince Debit. That we've seen this match was not good. It was great. I guess Johnny Gargano absolutely manage looked at the opening sequences man. It was a headlock. It really was and it was the way. They grabbed headlock on the way they fought for it. And and Finn Baylor I saw next level. Infant Ballard always have a thought. He's a I think he's an amazing performer. And you know when I was watching this card the one thing like I I watch wrestling through. Many many different is and besides the you know the opener. Most of the men on the show are almost like two. Oh five guys I'm talking about in. Just legit wait like I was watching Gargano and I would kept on saying man he looks like Little Guido and the biggest problem like when with Little Guido at first was when you know and like we try to you go into the W W with a different Mindset the name little would never help you get over in the wwe. So that's why he was. You know Nunzio But because it's always the ww a raw is always a bigger man's brand The business has changed except for you know you look at raw Or the guys debit. Every through the history's always push still will always be bigger guys. And when Finn Ballard came up man. The fans rejoiced unfortunately he got hurt and that sometimes hurt you too. But that's also real sports you know. Hey you can have this great quarterback but if he always gets hurt The owner may not be able to want to depend on you or May WanNa go somewhere else in a different direction but thankfully we have the annex t brand where he can excel and from his promos his work. That was a hard hitting match I loved it but it was. It was almost like to me reminded me of a wrestling classic with a and I got to see them. Live Back in the day when you know with Eddie. Guerrero de Milenko Chris Benoit's two Cold Scorpio. Even early Chris Jericho where we I watch these matches from the curtain and just like. Wow these guys are putting on a clinic and those two performance went out there and put on a clinic and it was it was such it was just a great wrestling match really was that that's the best way to say. It was a great wrestling match which again adds to the show. Because I don't care what you want to call it sports entertainment. At the end of the day it's going to be wrestling and wrestling fans enjoy wrestling. You know that when you see a match like Fin Baylor and Johnny Gargano no matter what the finish was no matter? How it ended. You knew that both guys were solid. And that's the thing like who's GonNa Complain Today to us on the phone lines about you know. Johnny didn't go over so that so I think less him now. He takes a step back. Well no you takes actually five steps forward because of what happened at the end of the show. He's always going to be solid anyway. That thing was a coin. Flip going in. If you put that match in Vegas and put on the board and say fin ballard against Johnny Gargano. It's like who's going to pick that. What what guy who oddsmaker says. Yeah you know really age to Finn Ballard. Yeah he has momentum but so Johnny Gargano so that so again. How it's booked house able to come together for that match on Sunday tells you a lot about the booking how it was put together and the finish it was it was all perfect is a nice package for me. And when you talk about psychology professional wrestling where he talked about literally psychology of life You're already said it before. In the other thing you have four guys attacking one guy in the in the undisputed are attacking or trying to interfere interfere with Ciampa and you're like. Hey where's Gargano? 'cause he's his friend because that's human psychology of everybody. If three people started jumping on me somebody would say stop beating this person up For a turn or somewhere in your life where you're like you know. Sometimes if you get too many bills like Manfred just rob a bank. You know or if I could just do something. Like sell drugs do something. Just get that quick fix. It can help me out so you try to. You'll think something from the dark side but then you're like well. If I sell drugs rob a bank. I could go to jail. It's not worth it but you have that moment in your head where he just like you know enough is enough in wrestling. They have those moments and Gargano. Losing to Finn is his trigger to what happens later. 'cause he lost and suffering gigantic defeat. Like that can make somebody crazy or make somebody like in wrestling terms. Turn I know every time I get on an airplane and the pain I feel in my body I retire. I said I can't do this anymore. Can no longer do this to myself or my body. Because I'm in so much pain. When I fly the moment I land and by the time I'm by baggage claim I come out of retirement but like I hate everybody and everything I hate when people are coughing. Now because I feel I'm GonNa get this career. corona virus. I hate the when people bump into me on the plane or the person has to use the bathroom. I just use it before. People just cough. I hate everybody I turn on every flight. But though that's my moments and Gargano losing is what is a big trigger for him and I love it. Hey took seven three four four four eight nine three eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three for busted open by the way if you do retire Tommy hopefully you do it on busted open right. You'll do it on the air Right now I probably do it like a big show my own shows. I don't know I'm GONNA retire. I didn't think I'd still be wrestling close to. Maybe when I turned fifty. I know I'm not going to wrestle. This'll be my last decade. I wrestling I know that. So I've Kinda pinpointed. I got that going forward. Okay that's news you know that's going to be hit the dirt sheets real soon here that you put that out there now. I don't care just so you know you just made some news. That's going to be the bottom line on sportscenter. Well everyone's promoting like. I wrestled in five decades promoting there been four decades though. I should come out of retirement. See if I could wrestle in every decade but I don't know what I think once. I Say I'm done. I'm done just like when when I say I'm GonNa get my first surgery. I'm getting everything done. And then you get the liposucked Amiga thoughts and prayers for Billy Ray and You know but I don't know when I get it all. I'M GONNA get hair. I'm going to get everything. Maybe some boobs I may. These boobs are getting really bad. I need some new ones are new job. Yeah I get that too So the other thing. There's always details in these shows. There's one I don't know if you noticed this Tommy. I'm sure you did. She notice that when there was some danger around the broadcast table to notice that the On this particular show. Nobody move the monitors. Do you notice that. Like usually the usually the rest of Mu. The Monitor's either way move the pencils. Move move all the notes out the way. Make sure it's a nice clean spot for you to be able to do whatever it is going to be a power bomb or through table. Whatever she noticed that those monitors were not moved and that gives a little bit more realism. It's a it's a little thing the detail like you know. I don't WanNa put you through the table with everything on that. Means that if you get if you get punctured by a corner of the Monitor whatever then whatever. That's the first time I've seen that probably ever the. Wwe were the monitors are there into like. They didn't move. Then move anything they just actually. There was a couple of spots that were on top of the monitors in the show yesterday. I didn't notice that Again because they they just those again when you talk about money like to go out and break a monitor to go out and break those tables they cost. You know a lot of a lot of money. I love the fact that they have Budgets like that I just you know we used to just break tables. Even then they cost like one hundred fifty bucks I've ever my own shows. I go and I get a doors now because doors cheaper than tables. They don't sell tables at Home Depot. There's only one place that you can get tables now and that's a office depot. So you know we're a bit of a of a a war again so somebody should come out there and get a wrestling table store because they think you could start making a lot of money but no I. I didn't notice that but I do. I do like all that carnage. Whenever I'm wrestling. I always tell people the referee. Just leave the stuff. They're just leave the stuff there. I like that carnage. I like how that looks and I don't like when you hit a table or monitor because yeah that hurts it's all it's all real. You can get electrocuted. But hey that's professional wrestling. You die because you don't know Sirius. Xm Than Listen Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars just go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new SIRIUSXM streaming subscribers? Sirius Xm no car required. Rea- Ripley who I saw initially annex. T U K to one of my favorite brands because again no frills. Just rustling trying to give storylines over. I saw an X T. You can like I've never seen someone like this. She's Tall She's athletic young and I saw her. She's going to be something someday someday is now. Now that she's exte- women's champion and Bianca Belair even though Bianca lost nothing. You there's no step back for Bianco Bel Air because even in that matchup. It's the Best I've seen from Bianca in this match against Ripley and so neither woman was scathed from this matchup now Both women have been the stars survivor series. They've been Off The charts. They've been the top guys For an xt since survivor series. And they've done it with their hard work and with with that goes. You know who's GonNa win? Who's going to lose at times like that it? It doesn't matter before when we're talking about you know that thing with sargent slaughter did it really hurt Sargent slaughter. I'm sorry Hulk Hogan Ultimate Warrior starting slaughter when you know whoever beat whom for the heavyweight title. No they all still Became the legends. That they are When you have talents like that it's just add different. Levels of the storyline the storyline now going forward is Charlotte flair. And then there was an interesting thing that thing that Charlotte did afterwards is when she just shot Bianca out of the ring. And you know. Because that's like a and they remember went beyond go when she held her own in that promo she's like you're GonNa talk like I'm not here. And how do I say douching person out of the ring is ultimate form of disrespect and doing stuff like that make charlotte the bad girl Makes you like re Even more and that Forgotten tangible is outside the ring. Who'S GONNA BE? Stewing is going to come back and kick your ass. You know that Bianca Belair has just turned into Gina from Martin. She's just she's just she's She's not going. She's she's this guy to be giving you all the attitude she's completely become. She's turned her character into Gina. From Martin now. Vince doesn't know who? Martin is doesn't know WHO GINA is. I like it. She's got all my I long Martin. She is She's an athletic woman and her talents are from like you said her appearance at the Royal Rumble. And she's she's quickly become the star that I thank you know. Mark Henry had envisioned when he saw her and helped her get signed by an xt. And and I remember when she first got her first people talking about her was when Sam Roberts said she shouldn't be on a takeover that's right and people are like are you kidding me and I mean the girl is is super young as well and she has the world ahead of her and the match up that they had was exactly what I thought it would be. It would be a phenomenal piece of the show. There was never back when back when I was in. W W was like. Oh where are we going to put the girls? We gotta put the girl somewhere and it wasn't a knock towards the women that were there just they weren't. They really didn't care about you. Know or they would put the women on the. Let's bring the crowd down to get them there before the main event which was so much harder for the women to do. But now you know it's like what match is GonNa follow the girls and that's a great thing for all the women of wrestling of what how they've elevated themselves but to Bianca Star to a new generation of wrestling fans. They can't imagine especially now the last say four or five years. The women place like that but the women were listen. I was there limit where the popcorn match. They were nearer nearer in this anonymous with the little people. The midget matches what they call the time. And the women the core match and that and that's not that way now. I you know at times like I said there was. There was a few people on social media where they wanna go the negative where they were talking about. How do you end a pay per view with interference? And they did the same thing in the women's street fight with interference and it was just done right but then it's also when the bad guy sometimes win or when bad things happen. People don't want they want to react to it. How you're supposed to react to it in the sense of. That's that's the reaction we're supposed to get that you're supposed to Piss you off. Roddy Piper was supposed to piss you off when he broke a coconut over. Jimmy Snuka his head. I think I would love it but sadly I don't know if it could happen. Could you imagine if like a heel authority figure came in and said? Oh you ladies. You WanNA think you're this. You're that you know what tonight you're going to have this match and you're going to have an an abroad pans match. The girls can be like. How disrespectful are you to put us in that match? But from what my generation your generation that used to be like a main event and like do good ratings and people would be like. Oh I can't wait for this Bra panties match not only because we're going to see women Ripping each other's clothes off or half-naked but the groceries to go out there and perform with very little clothes on but now if you did that it would be A. He'll reaction and for you couldn't do that because the social media like oh they're they're demoralizing towards women and they're doing but if a he'll puts that match like that that's what he's supposed to do with. Tommy Dreamer Jonathan with you on Busted Open. Eight seven seven three four four four eight nine threes our phone number what we spoke earlier. Tommy about for me as a wrestling fan about something. I've never seen before. So I see a ripley. I can't can you come up with anything in wrestling's past anyone that size and that power because you know that when baby doll I came to World Class. Wasn't you named like the ninth wonder of the world because UNC a woman that size? I later Nicole. The lady giant the Niccolo Nicola the The lady giant. And so even at that time. You're watching like okay. We hadn't seen a woman that size but it's not but but maybe could not work like Ria Ripley can't clearly so So we see a first time. Ever we see rea- Ripley someone that's is in that powerful in that match against Bianco Bel Air and also Bel air also can work also a very powerful as well this is. Why use a really solid even matchup coming in there was a lady Lady maxine who came in and like the U. W. F. She had a Mohawk and she was really really big and I'm talking tall wise but she never amounted to anything except for the obscure. Probably me you and David Greco would know who she is But because she had that unique look of back then a Mohawk There was an old MTV Video I want candy and That's kind of where I think they kind of took it from What was her name? Wendy something man. I'm really trying to tax concussed mind. Was IT Wendy? Not Wendy Williams I want. It was Wendy Williams. I don't know I love her. Show Ohio down not that Wendy Williams though she was young forgotten. Tv shows the songs. I Want Candy. Wendy will MTV video. Anyway she's in hot water by the way. I know that when you go to airports you're always picking up the The latest tabloids. She's in she's in hot water again for some people. Just want you to know know you always almost Wendy Williams reference for you on eight seven seven three four four eight three fold number to the phone lines we go. It's C- check out. The OLDER IS JEFF in Cleveland with US HERE ON BUSTED Open L. O. Jeff Jeff is not there. Carl New Jersey. What you get for having the browns and the teams you have the cavs and your Indians are trading. Dare you hang up on the different dammit. Their Fire John. Beeline with the cavs. By the way did you read that today? They should she everybody. Let's go to New Jersey. Here's Karl odd busted open. Hello Carl Good Morning Gentleman Moods up real quick on last night's An xt Portland the main event. It was a great match. You only thing that stood out to me that I like was when the ref done knocked out usually they have a second ref complying instances that championship match where was the other rift. And not only that. You had the undisputed error right there. Why couldn't they throw the ref into the ring to try and make the odd Kennel and they did a good question. If I'M GONNA go try to answer your call realistically one. It's the main event. Sometimes people don't stick around. Sometimes referees go in the back. They're done they don't have to change the shower or change their stuff. Every referee work super-duper hard Also number two I can. The attitude era era undisputed era. Pick the guys up maybe unconscious on the floor. It's hard to pick them up. That pretty heavies these losing weight. I've known him for a long time. But it's hard to pick up a person if they're unconscious and throw them in. The ring is a do your job. Maybe they were trying to do that. But yeah no I could. I could see some your point. But you know honestly. That's that's for the story that you want to tell. That's kind of the behind the scenes. Do we send another person to get that That value of the one. Two in the kickout. But that's not where they were going. I love your Bill Watts. Attention to detail there. I'm crazy that's so good. You know you know at the end of the night and Yoga showed up and getting back to a rental cars sticking around you. It's the truth it's the truth. Sometimes if I'M A he'll I'm one jump somebody. I'M GONNA wait till those friends are gone. That's I had to do a run in Mexico. The truck was outside and the door was locked. And I gotta do run enough also aging the match and I'm banging on the door because I had to go save her. The no one was lending me in. I was letting the poor girl get her ass kicked. I'm not a good friend. I love that attention to detail at the end of the night you know. No the wrestlers are there to try to save him telling you it's real. That really does happen. The refs were gone. There was only one ref left. Salmon was the worst friend he would wait four minutes and forty four seconds till the song ended to come into ring us. Get your ass kicked all that time. I love that Carl we appreciate the phone. Call these line open. Eight seven three four four eight nine three North Carolina. Here's Michael Busted Open with Tommy Dreamer Jonathan Hood. Hello Mike Hey guys enjoying the show today I wanNA talk real quick about Dominic Ninety Kovic That guy is so freaking good in the ring. I'm not sure if we fully appreciate that right now and I get it. He spent the majority of his time against Keith Lee. Who obviously has the rocket on his back? Lee As one major push away from being a top five star on the company. I truly believe that but I think going against somebody is hot. Lee could dampen dodger coach. Dan His reception just a bit so going forward. What I'm curious about is the character development for dominant when Lee moves on. And he will eventually on. What's going to happen? There's going to be gaping spot for a big man in inex- tea and this is where you gotTa have trust in Triple X. put them in the right position. So going forward. I'm really looking forward to seeing how they develop his character because if they do it right he's got major potential I agree and I gotta go back to when W W and W W when when W W purchase. Wcw You had a handful. I mean it was like twenty of men who all look the same. They were all six foot three six foot. Four and had great bodies can move and you needed some intangible of what would separate them when they're in. Wcw there were known as kind of like the natural born but when they came to wwe they. All just Kinda got lumped into like We'll just put them in the alliance or what made them different wasn't a whole lot. You Know Mike. Awesome was was awesome. Because he was in EC W as well as he was the biggest guy ever NEC W at times he didn't work like that but then there's also times that he did He has to find his niche I would like to see more promo work out of him. And if you're going to be a he'll then you may have to stop doing all the cool stuff and if you're going to be a baby face you can't do all that cool stuff without having somebody like trust me. You don't WanNa dive. He couldn't do that dive onto someone who's not gonna be able to absorb that ink that impact again risk reward. Do you think maybe tomorrow CIAMPA. Even though I think he's a little crazy with sit in that chair as a guy his height and in his size and his weight dove upon him. That's something called physics. Gravity speed velocity. You get really really severely hurt. So you know who's a big guy who could do everything the big show at times. I've I've seen him do a drop kick off the top rope. He doesn't do it always. I don't know if you'll do it ever again. Because he's older embiid show. I started when he could do everything and then they said Hey. Don't do everything because you'll mean more and the big show did mean more Mark Henry Marquetia close to five hundred pounds. Do what he would call the mudslide on you. It's the scariest thing that you never see coming. And then once he hits it you're like Oh my God I'm alive or just as simple as an elbow drop. It's like a cartoon where you would see the like you're like Oh my God. He's going to crush me and they await. I'm still alive. 'cause market get some height on his splashes on market dunk a basketball over his knees but when he first already good luck an advil hitting coyote right exactly might not supposed to whistle on the air by the way. Is that a bit. 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Royal Reactions - The Spanish Announce Table - Episode 246

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Royal Reactions - The Spanish Announce Table - Episode 246

"At Farmers Insurance we have concrete evidence that parking under an industrial cement mixer. That's just asking for trouble seen it covered it. Click for more of underwritten by farmer's truck fire insurance exchanges and affiliates products not available in every state the Spanish announce table. Tom It was a big week of pro wrestling one of the bigger weeks of the year and we are going to cover all kinds of shit about it but <hes> before we do that what else is new with old tummy well. I'll tell you this much. It was not a busy week in the world and wacky world of pro wrestling with initially takeover <hes> <hes> some headline news that will get into here in a moment and the Royal Rumble <hes> we also were were busy. <hes> we had our Spanish announce table double date at the Improv Club <hes> on Thursday night with if <hes> stand up comedian Chris Porter who's from Kansas City special on Hulu called ugly and angry definitely check that out <hes> I had a good time what about you. Did you have a good time. Does your wife enjoy our company. She did <hes> we had a great time for as well Chris Porter her if anybody hasn't seen him is amazing is a local guy but you know not the only reason we're saying that he's amazing yeah. He's very funny regardless because again you know over the course of this show we don't care that because something is close to us that means we automatically like it we are fans of talent and good entertainment and Chris Porter is one of those acts <hes> definitely yeah yeah <hes> so we did that. We got out what it was right out. A work compliant into the city Improv Wins Zona Rosa <hes> which not to give them a plug because I think we'd rather give the Comedy Club of Kansas City for into the show Dustin Hoffman for anybody who went back is it's Dustin Carlton something like that <hes> starting up his own comedy comedy club in Kansas City so if you're in the area make sure to check that out but besides that <hes> boy three soccer games role swim trunks this weekend and I managed to watch two and a half of them yeah yeah let's get into this so as as the ball turns now it was as the wheel turns but now it's as the ball turns because you have a fun little soccer story so let's get into that was not allowed to finished watching the the latest game <hes> Sunday. I think it was and <hes> so son gets double booked by coach right this. This place sets up this coach. He's got two teams and they booked the same teams at the same time to play each other right wearing you know like come on right as a bit of a Dick move right but it also. It's like hey get over. Its kids so I get both sides right so he says hey <hes> you guys are here all the time. He has revolved you mind just he's like. I don't want to try to pick sides so I'm going to try to kind of coach both but I'm GonNa get a parent to kind of be the subbing in how to Kinda you know in the moment coach. We were like yeah sure so while he's doing that. We've got a referee who sucks flat out sex. He's the same one who I remember. If you tell me almost kicked my son out because of the elbow situation yeah well these are throwing elbows again right and this is a different team but now they're throwing elbows and I'm talking raised up elbows right yeah and in any game of any soccer that I've ever watched that's not allowed right. Extra is a county really great right body hips into the wall. Whatever the reasonable is bad because that's dangerous right? You're talking hurts. You're talking teeth. You're talking possible concussions right and so we're telling the kids the whole time. Don't don't retaliate right because you get thrown out right. This is what the guy who threatened last time so I take it upon myself. Just let them know that this is happening right so I'm going elbows every time one of these kids those elbow right and at some point I start counting. I started started one but it already been more than one rightfully elbows to right. I'm Yeldham out and I can see this raff getting angry about it right but fuck him right like start calling the guy at the elbows right because if my kids start retaliating which I'm losing being the ability to convince them not to their bigger. Somebody's about to get hurt right. which is what happened when my son did it so I get the elbows six time right yell it out? He blows the whistle comes comes over to me. He's like hey you say that game and you're out of here and I was like elbows. I can't say elbows I mean they're throwing elbows and you're not calling the elbows. Why can I say elbows with the hill and he starts yelling back and he goes one more time in your out of here and I and I went okay? I was like okay baby. If you just go back to not call on the elbows all right and he was like that's it and then you say it again and you're out of here you got it and I went do you got it and he blew the whistle like you're out of here and I was like fine. Whatever man right just turned around and walked out and <hes> <hes> never called another elbow and I again I'm walking out in the kids regular coach right who you know again? We said this is not their normal teams coach thing he comes around the corner because he had been watching from the end and all he does just give me a high five on the way out right. I was just like screw this guy right like forget that man like I don't care right like Ref sock. You'RE GONNA have bad calls but this is a dangerous one where my kids are about to retaliate and it's GonNa get ugly and somebody's GonNa get hurt right and I'm not disrupting the game by yelling elbows right like every time it gets thrown and elbow like get out of here man. I hate people. I love that between the two of us. You're the one that keeps getting kicked out of games would've thought would've been this guy. The nope wheel Tim's on down the Fort. I like whole thing here's the kid never wants is hey. It's not illegal. They can blah blah blah our orange which I know. He doesn't have that because every other ref in there Dan Place called those you know call foul every other F. I've seen in every other bid of soccer called us about so. Should I have not maybe said it to him and just maybe found you know whoever's in charge of the refs there to say hey man somebody. Go Watch this guy and make sure he's doing this right. You know maybe that's the route. I should've taken but whatever at some point of like I'm I. I started egging him on to throw me out because I'm not gonNA stop calling out then you know what I mean. Those elbows knows what this <hes> so I got to watch two and a half soccer games this weekend and that's good for you good for you all wrestling that was about it other than you know the major wrestling events in some case they sporting warning that kind of stuff so man. I tell you what so Thursday night was. Our Spanish unstable double date as we already mentioned Friday night was our company Holiday Party we do <hes> towards the end of January just because we like to be respectful of extended ended holidays Yada Yada Yada we feel like towards the end of January I mean come on holidays are right so that's when the company will do their holiday party. Did it add Lydia's down here in the crossroads Area Lydia. If you don't know who that is world famous Italian alien chef she's been on beat Bobby Flay Gordon Ramsay all that stuff she's from. She's from Italy but she has a her residency here in Kansas City. She has restaurants across country. <hes> we ate their fantastic food first time emily got to meet my co workers <hes> so that was <hes> interesting and fun <hes> 'cause we like to party and this is a different type of <hes> company in the sense that we're still small right like we are going to be expanding. I told you a couple of weeks ago. We have venture capital invested six million dollars so that needs to go into hiring and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah so we're going to becoming more put together but you know we still have an ugly orange couch that we meet on every Friday <hes> you know so we're still kind of a company right now and emily comes from the children's Mercy Hospital Regimens <hes> you know we need to be have decorum and my two co founders are just drunk skunks. Just that's the past hey yeah they know emily's mom because his mother is like the Queen but godmother of small business in Kansas City and that's not hyperbole that's factual and so we love your mom so much she she does so great work and I don't know why she likes us but we loved it. She likes his an all of that stuff. So that was Friday. <hes> stayed out till about eleven eleven thirty which you know that's typical but then the kicker was we got up at five I fifteen Saturday morning. <hes> picked up her brother younger brother to drive to Omaha to go see her older brother compete in his first ever Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition <hes> he was one of four in his. I'm Wayne Class. Here's the thing that I've not consider because how big is so. He's six five two thirty right okay six five two thirty so when he told me like hey intern in my Jiu Jitsu competent or into a Ju Jitsu competition petition been doing it like twice a week for seven months I was like Oh and he was a cop right. He was a cop in the Bronx for seven years. I think it was yeah so I was like okay. This guy is not going to be startled by confrontation Xi'an. He's probably GonNa have extremely good grip strength because you know putting people's hands behind their backs and put in handcuffs all these things. I'm like to your great like here's just a couple of basic things that Anthony's telling me to tell you because I told the Anthony I I think hey do you have any tips for beginner. 'cause I can tell them stuff but I've only done this twice. You know raise a purple belt like let's get some real information here. Say Anthony was telling me like hey make sure he's doing X.. Y. Z. and so I'm telling JAKE DO X Y and Z right and so <hes> Saturday morning wake up at five fifteen we drive the two and a half hours to Omaha Nebraska we get to the REC center where the Jitsu tournaments. They're hurled brother shows up. He's a little nervous but like anxious now expired but just anxious to do it. He weighs in every motherfucker was his size or bigger. Oh Shit I thought that would be your advantage and it was not <hes> he he competed well. He didn't win a match. You went over to but <hes> it was a submission. Only if it was points I think he would have won the first one but eh he ended up gassing because Ed's your very first one. There's a lot of people your sister your brother your future brother-in-law stared at you. I get it right you go six minutes and it was no time limit like you just go until there's a submission. So you know lactic gasset. You must build up. It happens in other guy. The other guy had been grappling for like three years so not a bad loss second loss was to a guy who was I don't think he was a white belt. I think he should be a blue belt but is doing one. Oh don't don't don't don't me don't rank me up. I want to stay here. You know where I feel comfortable so he did well but <hes> so we did that on Saturday and then Sunday was in the good old royal rumble I guess you want to dish into kind of a little headline news and then the second seventy the next takeover yeah so yeah. Let's start off with this so the big rumor boomer and I'd call it in a room because in the world of pro wrestling everything's a work and so the big rumor confirmed by W._W._e.. Reported by P._W.. Insider and couple other news outlets is that Dean Ambrose will not we'll be renewing his contract. After wrestlemainia will be leaving the company Tim your thoughts. It does sound like a work the more thought at first of course I believed it you know just because it sounds like Dean Ambrose right right right <hes> and then you know somebody even brought it up on twitter and I forget who it was but they were kind of like a man W._w._e.. Doesn't do this like especially when it's that far out they don't talk about this stuff to the media to anybody because it's a poor form of any company really to do it's definite poor form and typically as you mentioned they they. They make statements after the fact after he has left after she has left. They don't say like hey coming up. This talent is on my thought process is yes. This is a work yeah. That's kind of how I'm feeling. Also so you know yeah. That's where I think it is. I mean I can't open is because I'm like Dean Ambrose Man I I want him to I. I like them but I would also like if you went somewhere else that had visibility like we're talking about all wrestling promises to be but that's to be seen but again new Japan I mean I'm not really watching it. I don't know that I'd followed you. Watch it with Dean Ambrose. I feel like I would watch new Japan if yeah if let's say a year from now you know half if this bloated W Rosser left and they're all new Japan Japan completely in English and don't need the subtitles and don't need you can watch if you have the Channel Access T._v.. Jim Ross and Josh commentators but like not all of the competitors are speaking else right right. What about you well? So one of the things that is being reported is that he's tired of the hawkiness so let's just say it's a shoot. Let me hold on. I'll say why I think it's a work. We're going to go into the issue so let me back. I think it's a work for this reason I again have <hes> I'm familiar with contract negotiations. I worked for Titan entertainment now. Those were may contracts but similar in the sense of it's an independent contractor trying trying to hold up his or her end of a contract agreement right right there is still and we don't know the exact date but they said after Wrestlemainia as of this recording. I believe they're still sixty seven days until wrestlemainia mania right so sixty days out your still play in a pissing competition right. I want this well. We don't want to give you this and said we'll give you that. I don't want that. I want double what I said the first time you're still doing that's pissing competition. Stuff doesn't honestly get like real real with a <hes> disgruntled employees until about two weeks out then everyone starts to feel the flames right then we're like Oh. Everyone's feet are on fire. There's going to be an impasse here soon right right so sixty days out generally speaking now Dini Umbro's might be a head case because he kind of plays that character but we don't really know how he legitimately as we've met him. He seemed like a fine gentleman. It was early in the morning and he symbol tired kind of my only read on anyhow sixty days out. You're Kinda just know he'll crack. I don't see the other side is GonNa crack before I do so I think if this is a shoot this is just a ploy to get negotiations back on the table but I definitely think this is a work. I think this is going to be a dean. Ambrose Swan Song or Dean Ambrose is written out of TV. Look there goes dean. When will we show up at all elite? Wrestling Seth rollins gets screwed by Dean Ambrose at wrestlemainia brock listener retains the title Ha Gotcha right right easily be something that happens right now if it's a shoot one one thing that's being reported is that he's tired of the Ho- keenness of W._b.. Which yes remember here in Kansas City he had to do that one promo when he was the baby face seth rollins was he'll and he had to bring out all these like bodily the arms like a mannequin head a mannequin arm and Mick Foley came out and it was really stupid and hokey right? He's done plenty of hokey stuff but I'd like to tell Jonathan good his real name that I found out through the press release a little fun fact the independent sees the same fucking way pal. Oh can you got Joey Ryan grabbing the Dick. Don't be thinking that adobe thinking that now that you're on the independent scene oh what's real wrestling. That's why I said if you were if this is a shoot and you want the real wrestling you're going to have to go to ring of honor or you're going to have to new Japan because that's where the money is for what you're making and that's where the non hokey stuff is man not even that I mean you'll see Joey Ryan in those places and stuff like that. I mean it's it's now. What you have is a little bit more ability on in those things to say? I'm not fucking doing that right now of course and if he decides not to do it I'm saying definitely but what I'm saying is he's he if he's going through the independence independence seen now before a w starts he might be on a card. Were the young bucks or doing. They're like Meta inside joke where it's the melter driver and all that weird hokey stuff and are you going to be okay with that. That's it's what I'm getting that like. You might be be having a legit straight up match with <hes> you know <hes> <hes> Brian Cobb or someone you know and it's a real you know two bulls and kind of thing what you're looking for. It seems like but underneath that yeah you're GonNa Have Joey Ryan might be doing his thing and then you might have the super kick party or you might have cheese burger. You'll like you're gonNA have Hokey Shit so I hope that like just because he thinks it's having W._W._e.. The it doesn't happen anywhere else because it does it well and the thing is I mean like I say that I I would rather him. Be Kind of hearing W._W._e.. If they were going to do something meaningful and cool with if this was gonNA turn into a giant work to where he becomes a championship level guy who can hold the story line and make it entertaining and make it a big deal cool but I don't have any faith that I've seen a W._w.. To do that with any by de slow well. You know there's a couple people right now that can do that. Daniel Bryan well Yeah Dana Brian just pulling it off somewhat well but a lot of times because they are forced to the issue of what they want to say so now can dean ambrose also get that clout and pull let off right what are the other yeah the other headline news and this is GonNa report but from all indications through twitter and other publications teams to be legit but hideo. Tommy Xiaomi has quick W._W._e.. And was granted his release finished up his <hes> tapings on Tuesday and now is a free agent so hideo. Tommy is now out of W._W._e.. What are your thoughts on that Tim Yeah? I thought he was already until recently so you know I. I don't know I feel like I feel like he was the one guy now. Sammy's was there but I think if memory serves me correct he was there same Zane was there before. Four Hideo Tommy what it felt like Kinshasa was a huge star and Kenta was the last guy who had to change his name and then like were someone new right after him it was now Kevin Owens change his name but he was still Kevin Owens right came over yeah but then Nakimora came over so Moa Joe came over even had James MM storm as using his Presley A._J.. Styles didn't have to change his name so I felt like Kinshasa. Whatever you WANNA call him hideo? Tommy was that last guy who had to be like nope. We're rebranding everything. Instead of just saying like no no Kent is the guy that came up with the go to sleep in tent as the guy that had the strong style that everyone in the back fucking loves and he had to be like nope. Let's Redo it and he came out strong right in INEX- t when he debuted he had that bad ass song that remind me of pride fighting championship was the big drums. I loved his walkout song thought it was great. When I heard at the royal rumble I was even like I've forgotten fucking cool this song as you know <hes> but I always felt like he was a what if case right so he came out strong he was doing all the right things <hes> he's kind of in that main event like a co main event level starts to get a little bit push and then he gets hurt remember? He gets hurt forever and they were gonNA start because I think initially from what I remember reading is. They didn't think the injury was going to be too serious so it was Kevin Owens who jumped backstage. Remember it was going to be alluded to that. A program with Kevin Owens is always going to elevate right but then the injury was a little bit too long and by that time when he did get back to one hundred percent that's when I mentioned the Nakimora already there the Fim Baylor's already. They're the same ease aims were hitting it all strides Kevin was taking over her and so it was like Oh man welcome back but we got five new shiny toys now sorry and then I thought it was a great idea to bring him to five live right 'cause he would look undersized and silly in my opinion opinion having a match with at the time big cast like that would have just Braun strowman cop with comical. You know I just like again W._W._e.. We're still in the midst of trying trying to see if a Shinsuke Nakamura will work out and an Oscar but those have been the only two that you could give any measurable success of Japanese Stars have worked brought over in. I mean yeah before people people try to say Yokozuna. He's Samoan so like it just doesn't well you know and not to 'cause you know we. We're trying to be a podcast that doesn't read the dirt sheets however because as you know we are on twitter enough things that you scroll through. You're going to see something <hes> it's been reported that Hackamore is not the happiest and if you saw his last tweet it was W._C._W.. Hashtag W._C._W.. W Just W._C._W.. So you don't know what that means but people are now whispers of Nakimora leaving <hes> we'll get into it in the next segment <hes> possibly but you know he won the title at Rumble and then he lost the title to our truth the United States Championship to be specific but <hes> yeah so we'll see but <hes> it seems like confirmed <hes> Hideo Tommy Gone. I think he goes to new Japan. I think him <hes> and Okada or if he goes to all Japan where he kinda made his name I believe Hashtag tweets table if I'm wrong going off memory here but I feel like new Japan is the shiny new Japanese promotion number one number one number one so I think an Cada <hes> Kenta matches awesome. I think a Kinshasa <hes> Naito matches great Kenny Omega left New Japan but we don't know what happens with him <hes> <hes> but I think kids that can go back over built some good feuds and then wrestle kingdom. I think it's going to be fourteen. I would not be shocked if in January of twenty twenty he's made of any wrestler or the New Japan heavyweight championship I mean I think this is better off for them and like I I don't. It's not working here. Nobody even people that like love to live. I don't hear them being like it's so j o Itami like you've got. Put the belt on him like just nobody really. He's just the guy that's there yeah but again you know like I mentioned last week you had Daniel Bryan going out of his way to talk about how Tommy kicked him the hardest and you can't here on his right ear and he's a dangerous man so it seems like backstage. Still there's the hey we all love this guy but like you said W._w._e.'s track record with building international stars that don't speak English as a first language when it slimmed known as Simone some of that may be too like I mean we talked about this <hes> off on our own through text messages about Dean Ambrose thing that there's been reports that they're trying to push the people that are adamant like I'm GonNa leave or I'm unhappy happy to try to keep them from doing so so that's why we may have seen some enhanced time and mentioning of these people because they're trying to be like Oh guys. Don't we do love you see and see through that man. They're not dumb. You know what I mean like so I don't that's almost like did you see yeah. Did you see Chris Jericho's tweet. He made some news <hes> Chris Jericho tweeted at ring of honor at <hes> W._W._e.. And I believe at <hes> New Japan pro wrestling. I might have got that the third one wrong but anyhow he said <hes> hey and then <hes> twitter handled all of those companies <hes> stopped pushing. Everyone who's upset were only interested in six to eight thanks and then it was all league wrestling that was great fun. Hey you can stop with all these things. We're not interested in half the people that are upset. We only went like six of them right there. It is all right you wanna take a break and then after the break we can get into our thoughts on inex- t- take over and the royal rumble and then take another break into our favorite things of the week some foreshadowing yeah. I'm excited about that. I may have to think about what actually was my favorable. We have time to do that because like you said we're coming back in the break. We're GONNA TALK ABOUT ANNEX T we're GONNA talk about some royal rumble and you know what I mean. We're GONNA hit it up but in the meantime in the meantime to help us out once again we had a few technical difficulties difficulty so it would help if you may be gave some donations to pay pal you can use table show at gmail.com or you can make a donation and get something for your money. Besides entertainment you can get like shirts and some other stuff apparently not zippo lighters. I don't if you saw that e mail come through. Tom Said can't put cartoon characters on Zippo lighter but you know our medicine doesn't really fit the bill but there's other stuff out there. Zaza dot com slash Spanish announce table that Z. as easy L. E. DOT com slash Spanish announced table <hes> buy some stuff and we're going to get a couple bucks off every item. We're not getting much. We ain't getting rich off of this. 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And we will return to the Spanish announce table fun fact forty four percent of American workers think they can do a better job than their bosses to a survey the Spanish announce announced table before we take into our recap of the royal rumble and takeover one bit of news that we didn't cover in the first segment that will be exciting as we move forward that was announced announced is the royal rumble exte- takeover ran unopposed any other major events and that's because this coming weekend is the Super Bowl the big game if we're a corporate <hes> radio station <hes> but we can say super bowl because it's podcast but the Super Bowl will be this Sunday America's number one event of the year and a fun match is coming back during halftime halftime heat is doing it this time it's a six man tag. It's Johnny Gargano Adam Cole and Tomasz. Oh CIAMPA versus velveteen dream Alastair Black back and then ricochet so halftime he coming back. What what are your first thoughts about that my first thoughts are I'm GonNa be watching that? <hes> I really care about the halftime who whatever Murray Month yes yeah whatever right who gives a shit <hes> this is going to be way better and I'd like to go to the twitter board here. It's almond like to go to Hashtag tweet the table on twitter by the way anybody listening to use Hashtag tweet the table on twitter and we're going to read some of the best right here on the show in one of those best. This week was from an old friend of the show has been around for a while at the ultimate one. Hey says I'm excited to see halftime heat. I hope to see someone get pin via forklift Hashtag to the table I I like the forklift should at least be seen backstage as ricochet walks to the ring he should just like look over at a forklift and just kind of nod and then keep walking. There should be some type of acknowledgement of the forklift because it's iconic connick for halftime. He right does great got to yeah. You have to do it. Yeah that should be fun and they need to do that all time and from what I remember hearing it's what they're going to stream it on like youtube twitter face baseball everything everything but yeah great idea super very good. I love it. I like it again. It gives me something to do while I endure the musical stylings of whoever is that year most times I like it. I'm going to be completely frank with you. Though I enjoyed the Bruno Mars the beyond says and all that I don't well you burn five. It's the it's the musical stylings of whoever because it would be whoever they you know what I mean like they wrote the song they made the song in some damn record companies production studio somewhere and they could have given it to Maroon five or they could have given they take it and that's how it's hit right but I will say hey even if it was a band or musician that I was a huge fan of Justin Timberlake or you know whoever it is right that six man tag I mean that's the six best arguably talent in annex t it arguably in the world old in one match so I feel like I can't miss that especially for a special attraction like this. It's not the main event of INEX- St Episode two eighty. Whatever it's halftime he episode to really you know you cannot miss a chance chance at a velveteen dream experience right I mean oh I tell you what yeah I yeah? I think I think he's going to be the one that shines in that now. That's a little bit of foreshadowing. Maybe we'll do a pick on that later but <hes> <hes> anyhow halftime heat we the first segment wanted to bring that up because that would end as like a little extra bonus of the N._F._C. takeover inex- t takeover happened again the night before a royal rumble <hes> <hes> general thoughts would you. What did you think after the show had ended? I love it man. I and I always do we talk about this. I mean a they put five matches on the card so it's bound to be a little more. They're I'm not trying to flood everything in right yeah. It feels a little bit more digestible right and so they've had time also to focus on all these story lines and not stretch them out and not wear them out and not be redoing them over and over again opd. Maybe five six years down the road. They will be experiencing that problem where they're having to repeat things but <hes> I mean kicked off great and you can tell triple h is running <hes> annex t by the very first insurance that comes in and all that was great yeah fit wonderfully for them though right I mean that's oh I mean the war. Raiders got to have that right. They've gotTa have raiders with them as it were right yeah. I thought it was yeah. I'm not a big viking guy or anything but I do like the cheese Mo- oh you know Alpha male type of thing and I thought it was perfect I for me not being a fan of that culture per se I was definitely a fan of that. Entrance thought it was really cool. What about the match? Would you think of that match. It was really good you. You know there's definitely it seems like a formula of takeovers now right so it's tag match feud women's match title-match kind of feels like it always A._B._C._d.. C._d. but the thing is is A._B._C. is something I always want to see like. It's I'm getting to the point where it's like. Oh the tag match will probably kick offers. Oh tag match. Did Oh man those really good match. Okay I bet you it's a feud. Oh it's a feud fuck out all right. I can predict it but sometimes it's okay to predict things like I think sometimes the main roster over thinks things and we'll get into the royal rumble here in a little bit but I thought the tag match was exactly what it should be. I thought it was exactly the pacing I've seen was perfect. The timing of it was perfect. It wasn't too long but it got you out of your seats. Got Some fun false finishes and we got some new tax stamps perfect. What do you think about that? I'm a little worried about a team like the war raiders being the champs. It's hard for people to chase that right because that's gotta be dominant. You know what I mean like. We eat people like breakfast team so well. I'm hoping you know we'll see as time goes on but one of my favorite things to happen with with title holders is to seed the evolution of the character and so one person I always comes to mind is Siham. PUNK punk took the title as the baby face at all and we love the the baby but then he turns on the rock right and then he goes into this heal thing where now he's dreaded mass. It was like two different people maybe the war raiders can do that right. Maybe the street prophets take them to the limit and then they have to you know I don't know throw fucking spirit some of these one of these guys and now their heels and now they turn in to the word is going to fuck shit up because we're bigger than everyone mentioned this team the St Prophets that's what do you think of those guys. I thought I think they're cool. I wanted to be their friend. I want to have a Red Solo Cup. Look I have a Red Solo Cup here. I WANNA walk around with them and just I don't know say l.. Listen to pop dance dates with them. They are as well but I thought the around him there charisma personified they are Super Fun. I like them a lot. Yeah and then you know breaking K. fe but him and and Bianca Belair are an item so I want all three of right like the skinny gives you guys nice yeah and so but yeah I love the street profits I think the COO yeah man just wants to snapping mocking yeah and I don't know what you know obviously the coaches and the people in agents and the producers and stuff down there in annexed here looking for but as far as like a a crowd work and and that kind of thing those guys have got it down now can they do promos. Can they tell series maybe need some more work and that's why they're still down inex- tea and this could be like you said a good feud for the war raiders but because they're not ready I. I don't think like we think the street prophets are ready to be carrying around the titles although when they do and they're ready for that that's going to be a really fun tag team champions Yeah Yeah and I think you know undisputed. Era is so strong and solidified for who they are what they we are. I you know undisputed heir to me always works best when they're the kings of the show like that's when the undisputed era is hitting at a ten out of ten kind of thing but I definitely think they don't have the titles. We're not saying like what the hell are. They doing now. They can still go in there and go like we're fucking shit up. We have clout we. Have you know a record. You know. We have some credibility here so I think them not. Having the titles is is not not bad right all right so back to N._F._C. Takeover Phoenix which by the way the crowd was already on point in this thing and they were fun throughout the whole weekend. I I love the whole Phoenix crowd. They were good. You said a tax saying like you know they did great as far as giving the energy but not making about them. They weren't like that East Coast Philly New York Boston thing where it's taking over. It's just like yeah. It wasn't like stuff that didn't make sense like even it was splashed ward <hes> smackdown. I think it was in <hes> somebody who's like <hes> who's re. I can't remember I think his age as somebody said something and then he was like well who would be and they were just like Becky Bay like like like okay right so that's fun right all right so we had matt riddle taken on Cassius Ono in. I like this match a lot. I thought they did a great job. At telling the story I really liked the ending where Ono's tapping out to the elbow blows. You know what I mean like this initiative like hey forget this Hispanic and keep taking this onslaught that was fun. Well and you know one thing that I love about the Matt. Riddle character is that he's a character that does it need to be the intimate guy right like one thing that she and a bazars maisy net is being a heel but one thing I feel like she kind of leans on a little bit too much as a crux or a crutch but isn't a bad thing is the anime finer. Hey remember how many M._A.. Fighter and yet I get it right but I mean Braun does fighter you know what I'm sane but going back to the Matt Riddle Matt Riddle such a character that you know he's the King of the brose and I think of a more as a surfer that an enemy fighter so I met this finish was perfect for the you know inex- takeover platform to say like hey motherfuckers. I'll kick my flipflops off and say King of the Bros.. But I'll fuck you up with elbowed like let's not forget who I am and so the enemy type finish I thought was perfect because it gave a little bit of that that <hes> end to a character that could be taken kind of almost Santino ask right like if he goes do much with the bro thing he could get lost in Santino the Eugene kind of thing where it's just fun little Dorky guy over over here and if you do some elbows and make people tap from T._K._O.. Then you can step back like Oh yeah this guy fuck people out finishing to help him avoid that scenario. Is that a he. Looks like the baddest man on in that roster due to size and build and his and his physique but then also that just you know what I mean like you said the move set and all that stuff so he should not calm the Albro then. That's not what he should he should. I think everything should everything should be bros.. Yeah I love it 'CAUSE I. That's why I like him. So much is because he's a character he is a I can identify who that is. If what's that Stevo became a wrestler right like if Italy asked me who is Matt Riddle I can. I can explain that if you tell me what the difference is or if you ask me to tell you what the Difference Is Between Ziglar Ziegler mid fucking stuck but Matt Riddle is a defined character I can tell you and that's why I like him so much right all right and then coming out the gate swinging trying to hit that home run a match of the year in January it was ricochet and Johnny Gargano for the next North American title and of course right like you. I mean the history of takeovers I feel like there's a few names that you say are takeover guys and girls mm-hmm Johnny Gargano Ricochet are two of those people like a shortlist of people who've made these events so special. Those two are at the top of the list in my opinion and so yeah this is their first time having a takeover match thought it was spectacular thought it was amazing. I mean again the athleticism and these are the kind of guys that can also get in what we like to refer to as flips and shit without overdoing without it being flip flip flip elbow but I'm right back up and then flip and then smashed into the corner but it didn't faze me flip it again right like it actually means something actually make sense in the moment. It actually looks like it hurts the person who did it too right like I mean it looks real. Oh Yeah and some of those moves yeah and some of those moves doesn't require the B guy and again. I'm saying that the guy performs the move but the guy just doesn't stand there and wait for it right. That's one of my biggest criticisms of Jay. Lethal I love. I'm Jay Lethal I think everything he does right. Now's ring of honor champion is spectacular. I've been a big fan of his but that finisher that he has we're just requires the guy to stand there kind of with this dumb and his ass until the finisher comes to them. I think is just this. I just check out like it makes me stop my suspense of believability but with ricochet and Johnny Gargano especially mismatch. I thought yeah everything was believable. Everything hit a home run. I love the the the inner battle that Johnny Gargano had with pulling the protective. Whatever it's called to expose the concrete and going like I shouldn't do it and he's got to do yeah those? The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is a first match series which may be this is going to be a series. They're having an X._T.. Halftime he but the only thing I I kind of Saron is just a baby face losing clean you know what I mean like some type of Shenanigans because what this is my philosophy on per wrestling is the good guy is always better than the bad guy. The reason the bad guy is a bad that guy is because he's not as good as the good guy like so if a bad guy just beats the good guy clean well then that good guy sucks now. We're not saying that ricochet sucks but if he just loses clean. Where does he go? You know what I mean. It's hard for him to have a rematch unless you build them up from you know wins ten matches in real like we had becky Lynn do it summer slam kind of thing but he he lost clean so if you wanNA rematch well sorry pal in this one they could still pull it off this way because Johnny Gargano was having that <hes> internal battle that you spoke up then ricochet can still come out and be like you did great but you know that it was super close and maybe just one fall shouldn't determine it and then Garganas like I dunno but CIA champions in his ear going. Hey man you beat him. You got to beat him again and he's like yeah but he's right like maybe he's like man screw cares. He's right right so he has that little thing. These now forget it. I'm definitely beat something yeah all right well. Let's move on we had shane obeys. Ler Versus Bianca Bel Air for the inequity women's title and I said I was looking forward to this one and they felt like they delivered really well and I like the touch Bianca Belair freaking out like when she thought she had the win but the REF was knocked out like like a rookie move right like a non what got him and now dammit like I'd like like she just knew in that moment. Her opportunity was blown whereas veteran knows hey gotta find another opportunity right like and that's what essentially lost the match. If we're believing it was a real thing right because she just cool in a moment of a stressful situation <hes> another big moment for that was the hair whip that going to bring up yeah good God that had to hurt so bad I can imagine but yeah again just great in ring storytelling whoever helped them work out that match because I'm assuming they didn't just sit there on their own those two but again brezler killing it just being one of the best heels under the W._W._e.. Umbrella period yeah. I thought the match was really good. <hes> I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said there. I felt like the the reason she lost. The match is coach. She's a rookie. The reason that Shane Baiser one is cut. She's the top heel everyone comes looking out great <hes> but the right person one to continue a dominant storyline for the kind of a week an X._t.. Women's division right now yeah that's it to there's yeah gotTa Kinda Start for as much effort as they put into that and extend the performance enter to get the women where they are now in the main roster. It's kind of second second wind of of girls which you know fast fast forwarding to the royal rumble we saw a good crop of annexed girl so we'll see but yeah for right now. There needs to be some built up talent because it's Shayna to me. It feels like Shayna and then and everyone else yeah. It just felt like maybe Lacey Evans could've spent some more time down there. Although I know she's a he'll enter current character but they could have made her a face against somebody like baiser swift that gimmick still you know yeah yeah. Definitely I agree. I don't know who knows why I don't get paid for this. <hes> so Champa defending the championship against Alastair Black what what were your thoughts Kinda very similar almost the same feelings of this match as I did ricochet <hes> Johnny Gargano match where you say like yeah it's D'Amato chop and Alastair Black. Have you seen what they've been doing. It takeovers like they're gonNA be fine together but again you had a baby face lose clean so then. Where does he go right like one thing when they showed the the after next he was over the six guys you know square off and allison blacks limping out there which credit to him for still selling injury but it was like Oh yeah you of the six years Zac right now you're the one who lost to that was just kind of like well? Of course I'm taking the other three because two of them already beat two of you so of course the ones but the match it so with that and the other one's the dream right yeah and he already lost tomato jump as well so yeah two thirds of the damn other sakes so anyhow back to this man. I thought he was really good again tomorrow. So CIAMPA CIAMPA is just awesome. Lei Oh Alastair Black we disagree on astor black I think and this is being completed with you. I think I'm buying into what it could be not what it is right like. What I see is kind of what you see right where it's like? The PROMOS are okay. The presentations awesome right the like you know coffin stand up. The music is bucket head games right the city. Those kind of things sit down yeah. There's elements of an awesome character and I think I'm falling in love with the no this do could really go evil but then I have to remember or in a W._w.. Product you know they tried to like. I say a Billion Times. They're trying to tell the story of Jesus but not allowing anyone play the devil so it's fucking hard and I feel like he's stuck in that role where if it was attitude era if Alastair Black was around during nineteen ninety nine I think undertaker now is your black would blow the roof off of everything like the fucking embalming people in the hanging of people Alastair Blake. It'd be one hundred percent into that and oh my God yeah ticker is I think I would pair maybe with somebody to do is talking because he can't do some talking but it's it's still kinda monotone character he does love the now it's not as good so I'm not saying it's the same so remember that as I say the statement one six for all your hate mail on twitter exactly but his cadence in his delivery and that like boiled up rage that's about to explode reminds that'd be a lot of jake the snake and the sense of like year enough. I don't have to yell motherfucker via lose. My Patience Shit's GonNa hit the fan and that's where I feel again. I think I'm falling in love with elements up. We've delivers it like Jake because NATO maybe he could be jake the snake and he's got the presentation of under and I think I need to be a little bit more aligned with like well yeah but really he's not doing anything to great but I do like I like going back to the match to Moscow I mean I think the person that takes out the chopper is the story has to end on a winning yeah because I don't know how else they do when they're ready to like okay okay Champa. You're ready to come up like the story line has to be a God. Damn Slam Dunk. No but I'm tired of this. We need to stop it. No one goes no one knowing their we're done. We're done great of a story. We can tell an annex t with frank. Now you could legitimately because of how good all the talent is in how good annexed he's been you have faith in the product you could go six months six to eight months just with Tomas O. CIAMPA and Johnny Gargano doing what I kind of feel like is the stone cold Steve Austin triple H to manpower trip just at the next level you could go six to eight months with the two guys is terrorizing everything and then you can go another four to five months with the Johnny Gargano comes to a census and has to overcome this demon who has got off track and then that's where at the very end the light but at the end of the tunnel Johnny Gargano comes home Johnny Wrestling and Beats Tomasa CIAMPA. It's Raven and Tommy Dreamer. It is yeah I mean and it's you know what I mean. It's it's <hes> it could be triple. H Shawn Michaels right right were their friends this year and their enemies the next and their friends and their and their friends and their <hes> the lifelock it could be the MS Daniel Bryan Kinda thing right it could even go crossings and yeah I kind of agree with you. At this point till somebody's injured and you're running out of like options. Stop bringing up like why the brought up the heavy machineries in well the heavy machinery gave because tag team divisions were last call on smackdown bringing them there but like the other ones like you're bringing in. Who else were they bring I can't even N._B._C.? Three and we still ain't see Jack Shit with that. Guy We get into. Let's so <hes> end of annex t will will kind of put a bow on this and the move into the royal rumble but the end of an X._T.. Takeover saw Johnny Gargano come out after Tomasa CIAMPA retain both of them holding the titles up and that's where I kind of alluded to it felt to me as if like Oh shit this is again for lack of a better term the first thing that came to my mind was this is triple h and stone cold joining forces to manpower trip now hope we know what a fucking quad blood. This could be what they wanted that to be right and so I got got so excited show excited I will. Let's move on to the Royal Rumble <hes> let's get into the rumble and a we had a kickoff show. I'm just GONNA skip over the first going to give a shit that whole radar and whatever his name taken on ruin gable just didn't make any sense to me no sense because then the next night yeah whatever the fuck are called revival together so why hinges stupid dumb or triple threat tag team match at that point those guys they missed the flight something something happened well yeah and on top of that I mean let's just say this first off. The takeover was amazing right but those a home run every single time but I get these travel packages and you know we're talking about doing a travel package for wrestlemainia Spanish now sable trip out up there but not like the big four are great but can we stop making the big four seven fucking hours I mean I was like we'll get to it when when it comes but the A._J.. Styles danube-rhine you Brian Match was fucking great and I was burnt out. I was so exhausted because I wanted to be for this all of it until I watched the glorious whatever they're called Gable in route and I went all the way to this and it was just I mean come on guys. That's too long. It was a lot yeah and then we you know Russa Lost Shinsuke. Nakamura wins the the U._S.. Title title which you know then two days later off you know you're trying to skip too much. I that whole mess but I mean hey I kinda called out that whole Roussev <hes> Shinsegei okay teaming up thing. It looks like maybe they were doing that to get to here. Yeah and I also like that. Lana getting injured lead to something else right right match purpose for later in the night purposes services and I liked it not more now again. Tuesday changed my opinion of that but I was like okay I think they understood what United States of America could have been so they can go with that again right so awesome so the night of rumble. I was a fan of that that match I was like yeah. Let's do that yeah it was it was like all right cool and then you know they had that fatal four way with the soon to be Gone Hideo Itami in at least Oh and to someone buddy. They're really all in on this Buddy Murphy Guy. I don't know that I see it so much but hey hey you know he looks the part. He looks good getting off the bus. You know what I mean and sound the part to me. You know like I don't think I've ever heard I don't think I've ever heard him talk. Yea Miss much I spent on <hes> the main show Oscar Oscar Mbeki Lynch and now this will surprising because I just thought we didn't know Becky Lynch was going to be in the rumble right the women's rumble and then she loses maybe right without me but then I thought kind of okay well. That's where this is going right. They're going to give her this like aright. Man Like miss that opportunity and now I've got a fight my way into mania and of course everybody loves her and she's trying to find a way to mania but she keeps getting denied. Slash swerved over. That's where I thought that was heading and held a match. It does give some legitimacy to ask. I Yeah I agree on all points on that first off before we dive into it. Let's Kinda. Just what what what was your overall thought about summer or excuse me of royal rumble like out of ten. What would you give of it? You can check out my thoughts on Spanish now stable dot net <hes> with an article call to rumble in my stomach two thousand nineteen Royal Rumble Review Yeah where I hid it up that you know usually typically specially over the last decade or more rumble can be super refund and at the same time just be highly predictable yeah highly predictable which still felt that way I mean obviously we missed on a couple of predictions but even when we miss we're kind of not wrong. They just went a different person or you know what I mean. It's still kind of like okay and it's even so predictable in like when it boils down to like the final four to one of those matches you this is the person there you go. I'm okay with that because you know sometimes to tell a story. You have to tell the obvious thing right like you know. If it's a western you have to tell the story of the Guy Getting on the Horse to get to the destination like it's okay. That's all right but I thought it was good. I thought I thought Royal Rumble was overall pretty decent but this is where the little things I thought they could have done better and I'm glad you know we're starting off with the first match of the night Becky Lynch Oscar right the very first person that shows up on the main show so have you got the W._b.. Network go to two thousand nineteen royal rumble. The first person you see music you here is Becky Lynch right so if you know that at the end Becky Lynch is GonNa win the rumble in my opinion and I get the whole like men main event than the women main event last year the women made event it so this year the main invented but that doesn't tell a good story line so suck it backwards what you should have done. Is You have becky Lynch. Be the first thing you Z.. On the royal rumble walkout loses but then comes back and the last person you see on the royal rumble is Becky Lynch with her hand held high like that is is a story I can I can send that story yes to a non wrestling fan that it was fucking too long but that event and the person would go away saying like so becky Lynch is pretty cool and I'm like fuck. Yeah look the other our reason you don't have to do what they did here with like you said <hes> well the women because it was the first time last year we put them in event so this thing so so next year we got into the men no you don't that's not the quality is right the qualities we're going to treat them both in the moment and when we're looking at both of them the hottest fucking thing going right now is becky lynch so I don't give of course that we put the women last first time because it made sense then because they were it was new do this time we're putting them last because we're pulling the trigger on Becky fuck and Lynch so it's that simple yeah so but like I said I won't be too droning but yeah everything you said it add credibility to Oscar and as we go through the. royal rumble would hit on our raw and smackdown thoughts too because third segment we'll give you our favorite things but <hes> so yes it gave total credibility to oscar <hes> i watched tuesday smackdown didn't even hear name be mentioned it felt like right that glut the fuck that was that was the that was another miss where it's like okay oscar made becky lynch tap out building lynch but guess who's the fucking queen on smackdown date charlotte talking oscar that's where i thought it was missed but yeah the match itself i thought it was way better than i i did not predict that match to be as good as it was to be honest with you i was going to be a little bit of jumping on their free throws and they killed it all right <hes> the bar defending the smackdown titles taxing titles unsuccessfully against the best best tag team the world mcneese what did you think about this you have to break up the bar yes after breaking up the bar this is why this is now the the second biggest profile match they had and they lost to a makeshift put together band aid team right so they lost their titles ios at wrestlemainia to have fucking ten-year-old braun strowman r._a. that was on row you move them to smackdown let's get him some credibility so they win the smackdown titles okay we're the bar the day right all that shit but now you're losing to forty nine year old looks like he's having a heart attack in a match shane mcmahon and awesome but him yeah it's just the bar has just lost everything so they need to implode or or do something because mr joke ms wasn't celebrating and like shaking shane mcmahon after that victory i think he was giving him fucking seat like c._p._r. tactics man he was like hey get a fucking looking breath india like okay man i get the story they were trying to tell here but it's hard to not just treat him like vince mcmahon junior who just because they want him to be in on pro off you know prominent position they're going to give it to him he shows up and gets in one match and wins at best in the world tournament they decide okay we're going to attack him now and there i fucking like real match ships like dude like it's it's hard for us to take these things seriously when you fucking do this so i totally agree however i think they want us to think that i think when the the other shoe drops in this storyline were going to be recalled to all of those moments moment it's going to be the ms was the one that got you to the best in the world the ms who got you the tag team champion and i think we're gonna get now i don't know which way still they're going to go but one of them is turning heel on them to go to dania all of that stuff is going to be recalled i thought it was gonna happen right on smackdown when they when they brought out his neck face foster and the hey you know he's got like no transition to in his neck and his face right it's all just one square so if when they had him out there and he did the whole i'm proud of you i thought he was just going to walk up and be like now now you fucking saying like you know what i mean and then turn on i thought like i was hoping right then i was like do it now do it now beat up your father beat up shane though the titles be like i don't need any of this shit on you and i need you to tell me you're proud of me like yeah the he would have been amazing would've been good but of course coming yeah that's coming but it's not coming right now but i yeah i think the shane mcmahon setup though like you said i i think that's for a purpose i don't think it's just been me and juniors kid i think i think that has some <hes> something to yeah and then we got a match i really could give two shits about and it still even though they did a good job in the match i guess it's still didn't hold my in attention for entertainment purposes was ronda rousey and sasha banks and now they we'll talk about this maybe coming up when we get into the the raw with becky lynch and everything because they went away from this finally but the the way they'd been booking ronda rousey like the i'm so sorry to be you can we still be friends it was like what in the fuck are we doing this four i said it last week going into the royal rumble two writers for the w._w._e. obviously had never overseen rondo as in the u._f._c. ronda rousey and the u._f._c. <hes> and seemed like as a real person <hes> and i'm just kind of repeating myself if you didn't listen last week but if you did here it comes again but rhonda rows is the person that after she arm bard mutate imitate went for a handshake to end the beef she scoffed at her she's also the girl that knocked out bitch koha and then stood over and said you bitch like she is a thug nasty in your face i'm alpha female new you like she's not on raw which we'll talk about heavier later but that's yes that's the fat is who she is that i mean the main reason she became famous was she was beating girls faster than in an instagram video the whole fight was less time than an instagram video and then on top of that she would fight dudes if you told her to because that's how it she thought of herself she's she if they went to shake her hand she'd fucking white brass give me a little dirty sanchez is on the way out i mean he was just like you she wasn't like when alexa bliss started <hes> on annex t as that little miss bliss and she was like a fairytale thing it feels like they're trying to take that care and make rhonda do it and that's where the disconnect and that's why she's getting booed i think if you would have had three months of ronda rousey you know putting her dirty pita ambitious faces and saying and suck it the crisper joke and then had this unstoppable force while on smackdown you had becky lynch being you know conor mcgregor the female version for all basically what her <unk> gimmick is then on monday you would have had everyone going let's go rhonda let's go back but because you did the rhonda is going to hold everyone's hand and just proud to be here you got everyone's amer faulk ronda rousey and she didn't know how to handle it she was just twirling her her microphone not what do know how that's not prefaced in every like promo class and help to do is hey in the event that crowd turns on you because it can happen even when you're doing everything right here's simple things like a you can boo me all you want i don't care you know what i mean like that's all you need to do like it's all you need to do just move on tell them yeah whatever cool who'll fuck off you guys suck and just move on like i don't know even when your face that's still comes off as a face movie like you guys can bumi i don't care i've got something to say here right but i thought the match itself i thought that finisher was weird i thought done initially sasha's got hurt that's why they ended exhibit that she landed on her head but apparently that's going to be her new like she has darbar than she has that move liquor to finishers kind of thing i thought the end was really clunky with sasha walking up then walking back then walking up and walking back and then doing the four and then fast forward to win becky lynn showed up on raw the one thing that w._w._e. wanted to show you like oh you might have missed it on the broadcast is after bailey lost rhonda she throws up the four or becky lynch throws up before there's a grand and then becky challenges <hes> rhonda they're doing the four horse women after wrestlemainia because if you notice who rhonda is facing right so she faced taste summer slam is supposed to be becky but it was charlotte then at royal rumble it was supposed to be or it's going to be there it was sasha banks now wrestlemainia is going to be back you lynch so we just had our be bailey so she's gonna face here's what's going happened is four of the we're going to get you know the four horse women for the i'll call it now my w prediction and of course this may change wrestlemainia prediction <hes> becky lynch will win that match and win the title because the w._w._e. w. e. four horse women help her and then all of a sudden that's the big shock and then the fallout from that is rana gathers her for horse women on raw or whatever and yeah if becky lynch versus ronda onto is the main event i would not be shocked in the slightest is as the fireworks go off you have charlotte holding the smackdown championship via balian sasha all in the tag team championship and then you have <hes> becky holding the raw championship they all four have their titles they all four foot their hands boom boom boom boom boom the four horse women women's are here equal yada yada yada and that's your lasting image just like how they tried with wrestlemainia eddie and chris benoit that will but they're going to hope for that kind of ending but for wrestlemainia whatever this is through four speaking of the ladies <hes> let's get to the women's royal rumble match <hes> i think we both kinda mentioned this like if felt like they booked it well for the first five to six entrance and then the last five six entrance and everything in between was <hes> okay eh the last of the middle of it was so stupid maria canals god bless ya you came back after two months of having a kid or whatever it is you look amazing you're still wrestling you can do it you're fucking character was dog dog shit at the royal rumble a leash fox no one thinks what you're doing is cool your awkward in the sense of everyone wants you to stop you're not awkward in the sense everyone wants you to keep being awkward and it's fun just go away you fought they fought the overhead that no one cared about just i don't middle get get lesion fox horrible thing period like the the i'm clearly acting like i'm lunatic bit you know what i mean like it so for spillman pulling off the lunatic thing worked because you didn't know right like this guy's legit might actually be a lunatic alicia fox's come off that way it's i'm trying to act like a lunatic because i think you're going to think that's funny and it's just not it's just not coming off well because you also have to be a funny person pull that off you have to have charisma smart just saying all right incuding allston italian for being the iron woman of that one <hes> i mean she foot put in some work but of anyone who would do of course right one that everyone there well at least the evans put it in a long time to and that american ninja warrior girl i thought out kofi kingston kofi kingston i let her stuff was way the thing was fun to do you want to get into that because that is getting on my nerves yeah i see your voice here the which one the this whole like two feet like just to two points of contact if it's your hands if it's your shoulders i'm tired of the actually the feet the kofi kingston instant thing look you had a great stretch or jesus of mary it was out of this world incredible it jumped the shark this year you need to stop it was i get i get we're saying like here's here's here's what i'm saying if you get thrown over the top but you don't hit the floor at all right so somebody catches you you land on something else that's not the floor and you can get back in great or you're still hanging on and only one foot touches cool right but like coach lane completely on his back with one foot up in the air you're out man you're gone and here's why too because like the here's where it also was dumb <hes> because then then exhibit woods picks him up and brings him in when none of that needed to happen you could just scooted your happy ass back over the road with your foot still in the air and climb yourself back up you didn't needing xavier wants to pick you walk in the weirdest most awkward of ways so none of it made sense none of which you know new day doesn't but i think it was a botch it was i think he's supposed to catch him right if that happens okay but that's the risk you do and pa- wrestling there's there's no take two's i get it however just the whole the whole thing is just played out now it's just stop dr whatever year and don't make it a point like kofi is in here and he's gonna do something no no oh because you just makes us go this is your one trick pony now look this is what you're here for nobody thinks they're going to win it because you're only here to do this and then yet two or three of them just get the puck he did a ton of but going back to the women's in the middle was clunky i thought the female final four showed how strong the top end of female peremptoriness and w._w._e. yeah all of these girls are fucking awesome right i thought it was very fitting that it was charlotte i'm becky lynch a regular coming in after lana got injured i thought was good callback to reward you for why you watch the pre show the start was really good i thought the middle was excellent i thought the burks was excellent the middle was good awful very bad and then an odd choice for piss break match was daniel bryan in a._j. styles which again was an awesome match but i was thoroughly exhausted by the time it got there and then you know the surprise of aircraft come out which is a great fit because we know enough about air grown to know that he is what dana brian is city is right he's an intellectual even though he's a fuck and weirdo right yep so it would stand to reason that he would also be like well we shouldn't eat meat and we shouldn't beat right like it stands it's great did you see the little caveat the enhanced danced <hes> rowen character they did what so when he comes out his new titan tron o simple yes that is great uh so i like that but they also didn't <hes> like in i know they want to leave you wanting more but like roaches comes out chokes on somebody and then done saint like there was no like from or anything it was just i'm leaving with this guy that's what i do i'm i'm the muscle here and i like that you don't always need you know as far as starting out you don't always need to have everyone explain why they did it that's muscle he do it yeah so yeah just yeah the whole match fell on placement spent like they typically used to do this when they had the split titles before with the brain split was one of them would go on i it was always smackdown yeah so maybe that's why they were trying to avoid that this time but this still felt like an odd placement for this match it felt but like an odd placement but it also felt like oh man we still have another rumble and title match i'm so tired like of the two title matches that you knew had to come between these two rumbles i would rather gotten through the listener pallor one i right like i just because you knew this was not going to go if any of you thought in ballard was actually going to win this match your dumb and i'm gonna tell you why because yes we still have the elimination chamber in the way hey where titles could change hands but it's wrestlemainia they're not gonna go fin ballard instead of brock listener because they do wrestlemainia for the people who don't normally watch rests right they want the extra ratings draw aw enfin beller listen to me all of you in the nerds is not the ratings draw for people who don't watch wrestling he isn't he never will be right you have to be a wrestling fan to appreciate and want to see in maller color they are going to have brock listener on every u._s._a. today on every m._e._c. with with that damn belt so they can pimp that out watch wrestlemainia brock listener ouattara's so maybe he wants wrestlemainia brock listener now i know no we liked to stay storyline driven here especially now to be able to say no but if you thought this guy was winning i don't know what to tell you don't ever play the lottery i mean it's still could have been cool right because eventually someone's going to have to conquer that beast right and then can do i think would be a great move finn sailor beating brooklyn or at mania but it wouldn't happen in here right but i thought this told a great what i i was hoping than now looks not to be the case as we fast forward to raw but i thought it was going to be a great opening act to a three part series where we get at hopefully wrestlemainia that was my hope is then the the demon comes out to conquer the beast that should have been your immediate clue the moment it wasn't the demon you should have known brock listener wins well yeah but what i'm saying is i thought the match in how the how he had brock listener eisner to a point where brock listener couldn't even suplex them showed like the man fin baylor is up to this task tonight he was not the better man right and you can be capable but it's still rock listener right right right but i was hoping that the next night you know paul heyman would say you know finn you know you you came up short you're not the man kept on playing up the whole like you're not as much of a man you're going up against a feast i mean yeah then you get a rematch at wrestlemainia where it's the demon versus the beast that sells tickets you just say that on thing on a card a headline that sells tickets the beast versus the demon demon and then ballard as the demon i don't get the whole thing but he looked so you could do that you could do the rematch for whatever reason right like in ballard still comes out and finds a way to go closer into the rematch ed elimination chamber and still will almost gets them but doesn't and then he comes out again on the raw after elimination chamber and heyman eleazar like why why would we give you a third chance it'd be like oh you don't need to give me a third chance you need to give the team in chains right right and so yeah already booking it no yeah this is how i would have done it i would have had whoever you're picking to face the champion on smackdown have that person win the rumble so let's just say it with samoa joe right it's mojo towards the end komo joe wins the royal rumble he's taking out the eco-friendly daniel bryan because now he's going in like that cool bad ass baby face kind of thing and daniel bryan still doing the eco-friendly thing so that's your smackdown thing right so they he wins the royal rumble not seth rollins then raw has to do their match where it's all the people are in the elimination chamber first The number one contender for brock listener. That's where Finn Sailor outlast seth rollins drew McIntyre Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah then Ballard wins right then they have fastlane then Fen Baylor who every beat it the last two right yeah. Let's just say it was <hes> let's just say Seth rollins right seth rollins and then Fin Seth said you know it was 'cause drew. McIntyre low blowed me. That's the only reason you want. Give me a one on one match fins as violence do it then be beats fastlane then then that's when Paul Heyman says Oh. We're doing this thing again you again. Didn't we beat you at the rumble and then that's when you didn't beat this motherfucker and then it's the demon and then and then you look like you have a right and then brock has this like undertaker shook look on his face. Oh Fuck. I don't know if I can deal that and then that's your fucking main event yeah by the way <hes> back to you know we were mentioned Daniel Bryan. I forgot to bring it. This tweet the table I wanted to bring up and you saw the Promo Komo at the ultimate ones. Daniel Bryan is the greatest of all time he just put over a monstrosity of a Burger and they're going to sell thousands of them. Hashtag tweet the table <hes> when he was like doing that whole bit whole Nasty Nasty fucking Burger the Thad that yes all of his local news interviews were spectacular. He kept yelling over the reporters saying that they don't want to hear the truth. He is a person of truth. He's here to get his change to the masses and they were just like all right back to you and he's like they wanNA censor me. This is why they don't WanNa hear the truth to reporters back at the station. We're like okay that was weird. Kids weird it's pro wrestling and he's doing great about it like he makes me feel uncomfortable or love it all right. Let's get into the men's Roy Henry Pseudo. Did you catch that so Henry. Suharto is the U._F._C. Z. lightweight champion before his fight with T. J. dillashaw he was on a flight with Nikki Bella. They took a picture together after Henry. Pseudo wins his championship fight. He's Okay Nikki Bella. What's up Daniel Bryan goes? Don't make me come over to the U._S.. Seen spank your ass where her perfume because that's the closest you're getting to my sister and like he's just going on all levels. He's doing the Becky Lynch but for the guys I love it. He's killing eleven but anyhow good keep going. I let's get into the men's royal rumble match and <hes> I'm Gonna I'm GonNa Chime in with <hes> at Katie. First Lady had to tweet the tables that go together <hes> because we can just kind of encompass the she says fun fact. I believe Johnny Gargano in Kansas Laurey are the first husband wife currently in W._W.. Next Rosser to participate in the men's and women's royal rumble matches in the same year Hashtag table well your window of opportunity for that to happen is very slim right. There's only been two years where there's been a men and women's Royal Rumble Yay right so husband and wife team that married couple has been in the rumbled but I think a married couple has been in the same royal rumble match remember when Beth Phoenix eliminated the great Khali and edge made his return. Weren't they married at that time. I think they've already done the Mary van but actually didn't to chimed in and Alastair. Black and Selena Vega has ticked with table if you didn't know they were married yeah the men's roll rumble match. This is what I'll say about that too many wasted spots on throwaways. I I get the titus. O'Neil of all the throwaway spots Titus O'Neal was the funniest pop right because you had to do he's run into the ring got it and then he ended up going under the ring which was even the Cherry on top but the Shelton Benjamin's Curt Hawkins in out. Throw it in there but it's still titus O'Neil's I felt like we all know like stop it and stop with every year. Someone has to be out in a second. That's the other thing that's annoying. Is You know that's the you have these built in spots a Kofi spot someone gets eliminated in a second <hes> comedy spot like we don't need that the other thing and this was the biggest glaring omission of the week on both shows where oh where was Adam Cole. If you'RE NOT GONNA put Adam Call. It wasn't taking show right. That's what I'm saying because if you listen after the you know the extra segment that next he did to hype up Halftime Halftime Heat when Adam Cole just walks out and pushes velveteen dream the fucking place nuts and that's where so he was there. You didn't use doesn't get it on the next takeover like you said there's five matches. We don't need to start making this summer. Slams and row rumbles making it six seven eight matches just because so I'm fine with that right and you already had undisputed heir represented totally cool but if you're gonNA do the rumble inex- t guys I don't need to see Alastair Black injured and losing coming out to just lose in the royal rumble. That's when Adam Cole baby is like what we got to have somebody who gets kicked out in the second and we got to have somebody in a comedy spot those lose their impact when you force it every year if you did it once three four five years it's way funnier. It's way more like all my God. I can't believe bugging no way Jose. I mean I can totally believe no way Jose the other one yet no way Jose was another wasted SPA dammit man and he's a wasted spot period with this line teeth gimmick that they keep trying to force when different characters. It's it's not the character that keeps failing that story line guys. It's the storyline nobody cares about you fucking jumping out with the dance party because nobody fucking does that in real life. Nobody four caring just happened once and we don't we're done with it had its time and we passed it. CONGA lines. If two thousand nineteen you mother fuckers Conga lines and been part of this and seventy nine assholes well Adam Adam rose. It was pretty cool when he first did it in annex t for weeks so let's I thought the one thing yeah and I get it last year. Adam Cole was a surprise in exte- person right so two years in a row but God dammit on riot experience. I want fucking shows yeah with the crowd Adam Kobe right. You know what I mean and just just that so like Shelton Benjamin nobody cares nobody. Even the president of the Shelton Benjamin Fan Club truly believed Shelton Benjamin's win in this match yeah so just get him out and put in an atom cool or put in you know Johnny Gargano was a good surprise. I was like Oh yeah yeah. That's cool. Let's see what he looks like standing next to Dini Ambrose. That's when I think the next takeover call ups like in the rumble work well because then you're like okay. This is a midget okay. This is a star. You know what I mean well. Let's kick off with the rumble rumble at Mr for throw says poor J. E. S. J. W. R. E. Double T. T. W. W. E. Double T. H.. E. T. A. B. Ellie right right yeah that that was good yeah. I thought that was a great way to start it off. I even told you it was the two thousand nineteen version of Jeff Jarrett starting the show and then it was the nineteen ninety four version of Elias coming in second per except it just wasn't you know like you mentioned guitar shot. You know we're we're making our predictions on the fly through tax methods between and you were like guitar shot obviously didn't do that. He likes sucker punched Him Guitar Guitar. Yeah they did at the second night on raw with the singing of the song I would have done if I was booking it. I would have had him say like we're singing that song have the whole fucking crowd mumble all of it until right right till when they know the fucking everyone mumbles until they get to that part and then hit him with the guitar and throw them out yeah yeah okay so let's run through so what else happened in the room. I mean okay Niger. Where do you land on it so the one thing that I'll just say is like she's not? This wasn't revolutionary China. Did this Phoenix did this so I got a little bit flabbergasted and dumbfounded when everyone was no. You're Jack's. We've done this for Karma when I came in the I don't know what the added benefit was is for a longtime now because and it's rumored to center around their toy deal with Mattel is that there will be no direct correct on purpose men violence upon women right right which they went away from that and I'm glad because we're talking about Ray mysterio night Jack's people if this was a real fight my money's on fucking Nyia Jacks you know what I mean like. She just gotTa sit on the fucking guy if she had any kind of fighting obviously anybody I mean a person can beat up a bigger person. You follow what I'm saying right like if I'm a if I don't understand that and I'm a kid I'm looking Kennedy's too and I'm like well yeah. Why can't take a foot from Ramos Stereo right like it shouldn't be like a whom I gotta man hit? A woman like the main is a third of her fucking size. It couldn't hurt that God damn bad Ramos but Randy Randy Orton is not randy. Orton is not now <hes> there is something to you can't keep sitting here. The men are equal to the women and then but we've got to protect the women from the men will then yet falls the puck and part so if she assuming that fucking K with the separation. I'm okay what the separation I don't like yeah kind of sexes but the point here is no. She wants to that fucking match because she's if this were real life she walks into that match because she thinks I'm big and tough and compete these mother fuckers up then tough shit. You got your ass beat by a couple of blocking dudes now. I'm totally okay with that but again if we're going to say this. This is why I'm not okay with the in today's current whatever we're calling this era right is if we're GONNA say at last year's Wrestlemainia we need to accept Nyah Jacks because of her size and she looks different and you know this is going to be geared towards obviously not thirty thirty year olds. This is geared towards kids. Well Fun fat girls evolve quicker than boys and so if I see that girl is bigger than me if I watched nine Jax get hit by Randy Orton that means I can hit Stacey A._C.. Class because she's a little bit bigger than me. Well we're setting. There's also the try this shit at home right like who listening you can still reiterate that. This is fucking storms art right yeah so there is is still this and we've said it all the time like women you can't go. We are equal. I get a hit them in and they can't hit me back. Fuck Shit you right fuck you. If you get ah yeah we're I'm okay with it and this sounds hypocritical but I do have a little bit of wiggle on this stance is where I am okay with it. When Stephanie McMahon would smack Roman reigns Roman reigns can put her in a submission? You know what I'm saying like. I'm totally okay with that part. It's the we're gonNA have a match. It's Candice Larae Versus Rey Ministerial Fuck off. I don't WanNa see that well Tessa Blazer. It's has been fucking wrestling people left right. I know I know and so as Candice Laurey she was doing the whole prettiest team with Joey Ryan. They're doing the Inter gender I don't like it. I don't want it. I don't want it science. Science says that men will always kick a woman's ass so we don't need to prove it. I've seen some women be fuck Outta. Some dudes in my left home. Trust me Tania Singer who fights in the U._F._C.. I've seen her beat the Shit Outta guys at whiskey tango plenty of times. I'm I'm just saying some that everyone's time you know what I mean. Of course I mean now like you say hit. Women go if we're going to go but I also for the so to me where the equality thing comes in is where you're like. I don't want men and women because you know seventy five percent or more percent of the time that men has a physical strength advantage. That's going to be up. I can say the same thing for a bigger tiger man on a smaller man right rock listeners should not fuck and beat me up because he just can right like that's not fucking cool either right now when that's in real life when people aren't aren't choosing to fucking fight in sanctioned event right like there in lies the difference even if this were him in May if a woman were to say I'm GonNa find a man in the man's like you really want to do this and the great yes okay then she suffers. They don't want this to go down. A slippery slope where Alexa Bliss got jumped by Dean Ambrose. Yes yeah the where became uncouth and didn't age well from the you know. The attitude era is putting me young through a fucking table you know what I mean like guys and so right but then with the creative you know limitations at these writers have because obviously we've seen I feel like you start to say Nyah jags versus Dean Ambrose Okay now Alexa Bliss is going through something and all that aside Niger. That's a thought did what she did really well. She came in likes fucking grinning ear to ear with that shitting Grin like I'm GonNa Fuck. All you up. Fuck a couple of them up. <hes> tossup pucks out even took sold the hits well. You know what I mean like. I thought she did well. One of the most improved people over a very short period of time for me is aw Oh my God what is not improved about it or her years. We've been improved buyer. She's been getting less screen time while she's getting the three segments the her presence in the Arinc doesn't look like I don't know what I'm fucking doing anymore. Hurt your cater. You're wanting to hate her is improved right yeah. She's doing that well. I'm going to be he'll thing but I think the thing been. The most improved is that she's went from three segments a show to one segment issue. I think it's perfect yeah very segments is that's when I start to complain. That ain't her decision that's W._W._w.. W._N._Y._C. Character but again. I'm doing what I see. You know what I'm saying yeah so I like when she's like look at some of the girls whose like the fuck. Are you GonNa do about and I like when she like you know what I mean was fucking with Dean. She's like what what what you know what I mean like fucking. Come in here and do something right because you go any woman that doesn't real life you WanNa look at that guy. That's GONNA kick your fucking ass understand that yeah for sure I thought also why she did a little bit better. In my opinion <hes> in the men's row rumble than other women have in the past. I think she actually felt comfortable like I'm being honest I think sometimes because of how powerful and big she is when she does the shoulder tackle to Bailey for example she kind anna pulls up at the end. I think she felt like Oh. I know one hundred percent like I want to and do the shoulder tackle the rainy Orton running to the pickup of ray mysterious because these guys can handle their weight classes would be more appropriate so you could have of it the inner gender things if there was a weight class involved right like ninety three hundred and <hes> point five ounces so she's only twenty okay so seth rollins wins the rumble. <hes> I think this is the better I e they did a good job of it came down to Rawlins and and Stroman and it was like Oh shit they could go either way with this right yeah and I didn't feel like the crowd was already turning because I felt like they probably thought what you just said where it was like Whoa I am going to pay attention because it could go either way and I wanted to find either right right so I thought yeah I thought I thought the ending of both rumble matches were very appropriate and yes we kind of predicted that I think you predicted rollins and I think I predicted becky Lynch and so was it the most surprising outcome no but like I said sometimes you have to you can't just jump to the end you have to tell the stories to get to the end and it was appropriate. Ah Yeah I will really come back and we talked about our favorite things the week when we come back and maybe we'll hit some extra things you know on Ron smackdown as as a fall out to the rumble <hes> so as not to make that just a two minute segment but I mean we went pretty Goddamn long on this Tuesday might be like already like kind of the royal rumble be like guys got it okay so <hes>. Let's see what else follow us on facebook facebook dot com slash Spanish announce table podcasts were on instagram dot com slash tweet table. We're GONNA take a break and we'll come back to the Spanish nance table fun fact the less people know the more they think they know this is called the Dunning Kruger affect the Spanish announce table this podcast I mean it's not like you have to hang you know through the break or anything. Thank you thank you <hes> we went long but there was so much to talk about and they're still more talk about because we didn't even touch on any of the fallout. We like to do a favorite thing in the week. We were doing a least favorite thing in the week but I think we've kind of termed like they're just makes a sound negative and you can always pick something that sucked unless there's something drastic that we feel any talk about. We won't necessarily early like it also puts me in a negative frame of mind right like I've got to find that I thought sucked right. You know what I mean so we'll stick with the favorites and then we'll kind of mentioned some honorable mentions that could've been our favorite if our favorites weren't so God damn cool like the Spanish announce table Spanish now stable dot net brought to you by beauty. Tom You WANNA go first. You want me to tell you what my favorite thing. The week was I will let you go first. How about the gentleman I am kidding? Yeah Yeah your gentle. I'M GONNA go with the becky Lynch Ronda Rousey Promo from raw because one of the major things was the coming out party for the real ron arousing. I don't mean the real Ronda. Arousing like the real is related thousand the new date O'Brien right yeah. That's what I mean more as in the she got up and her goddamn grown was like oh you're the hottest thing now. I've been fucking name for a decade. I'm going to rip your God. Damn arms off. Shove them up your ass. I'm paraphrasing. She didn't say that but you know what I'm GonNa. Kill say is I've always thought you know I've been watching pro wrestling since you know for as long as I can remember. I can't think of any time ever they said kill they've said Beata days. I'm GonNa Bury You within a business for herself and messed that up or I don't know if she went in business for herself for went from a work to shoot railroad. Yeah I think it was a bullet points like they've been saying and they're sitting in the back going. This is why we don't do bullet points anymore right wrote. I thought yeah I thought both women killed it. I agree that my biggest takeaway was like Yup. That's the Ronda Rousey that I've been waiting to see in W._W.. That was awesome. It left Becky Grigny like you know when someone has a good comeback like when you try to insult someone and they get a good comeback and that you have just kind of grin okay right yeah that's all she felt like yeah. Becky Lynch left with was just like <hes> we'll show you later right but not right now <hes> so I left thinking Ronda Rousey which shoot in that Promo and it caught me off guard and it was eyebrow raising right 'cause ause. I wonder if that came out of because she was getting booed out of the building earlier Promo Bailey just had to go out there and said like I heard you were doing an open challenge. She never even mentioned Jones thinner our Bailey get the fuck out there unsolved right <hes> but so you know they do. The match becky comes out. They do the whole four thing. I saw it on the screen so I was like Oh. Maybe this is leading to that but it didn't but I thought Becky Lynch also did great now again I think she I love. I think she got left smiling because you know it's hard when the last person has the last word but all of what she said with the I told you I was coming back and I'm back like all of that stuff that whole time we were together rollins. I don't need time yeah. I choose you yeah. I thought her side. I thought her side was an out of ten and I thought Rhonda's side was a twelve attitude. If I can give a shout it also to the next night on smackdown that Charlotte come out and she was like doing the clearly jealous but she's trying to take credit for things like oh so happy and like it was the same kind of thing right. It's leaving becky in this. I've got nothing to say and she you just say fuck it sucker punch right in the Goddamn. John and I was like that's why she's the fucking man. Dad is why Yeah Charlotte though by the way. What did you have a table about Charlotte at B.? Score double underscored D that's be underscored dub. The letter B. Score Double Underscore D. E. WANNA make sure that everybody can follow him on twitter because he is the title sponsor of spending out sable dot net <hes> for the next says Jesus Charlotte go away Aztec sweet the table. I don't think so I mean I think she's still absolutely one of the best you could still argue the best at what she's doing. Hang out there. <hes> it's just Becky Lynn is just so on fire and has the crowd eating of the palm of her hand right now. You have to have Charlotte out there well so you know like I said the biggest glare from the pay per view weekend was not having Adam Cole any part of any show right but the biggest glare from almost a perfect episode of smackdown was at Ascot didn't even show up at all <hes> those just incredibly stupid but I think Charlotte still has a role in the story and it's just like you said they'll like I'm jealous but I'm not really jealous because really what you're dealing. Becky is what I was doing so you know you can thank me whenever you're ready like like that. Role exists in real life. That is a mean girls role. That should be told so I agree where it's like. I I hope she doesn't get added to the match. That's my fear is. I don't want this to get convoluted with another person. I just want becky versus Ronda but let's not forget we have elimination chamber. We've guy fascinating and we need matches for those. I'm okay with it. L. Worried because they just might they just might make Ronda Rousey and whomever the actual final main event of Wrestlemainia this year. I'm getting that feeling that they may that the quota actual main event Ed Wrestlemainia even though they knew what they have like five main events anyway but I know they're into that and then there's Charlotte's around there. There's GonNa be this almost guilt factor of not putting Charlotte Arlit in that match no matter the story line right. You're what I'm saying like. She's going to be like what the Fuck I've done all this and now I don't get that spot when you finally pull that trigger and they're going to be a good right and Rick Flair is going to be like. Do you know what I mean like what the fuck right and they're just gonNA be like well. We've got a because that's what Debbie fucking does Yeah Okay Yeah I. I'm hoping again. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but I think we we have two more pay per views till Wrestlemainia you can't just have becky Lynch and Rhonda just doing promos until we get wrestlemainia nine so you need to have something for both of them to do and that's where I for like nine fucking weeks weeks or whatever left until mania right yeah whatever yeah so that's where I hopefully we flush out this Charlotte Angle to the story line and then by the time it's Wrestlemainia then it's just becky and Rhonda and that's why I think if they do this whole four horsewoman thing. I think that's when Charlotte goes with Oscar because right now like I said Oscar on the show. It seems like no one's even fucking calling her out right. Carmella didn't say anything she was out. They're the main rose in D- other girl data didn't say anything about her. Naomi's not no one's going out us so it has to be someone with her speaking of Carmella just way off topic up against which gears real quick here truth one that U._S. title. They botched that fucking pinfall situation with the rift pretty hard didn't they but I think they tried to. I think that's what they wanted us to think. 'cause everything breathing else lined up so perfectly well yeah. I think that was a work. Whatever odd <hes> Hey our truth is our U._S.? Like wait a minute that wasn't supposed to happen and then yeah. I thought it was perfect. If it was a work right but our truth the United States can go figure who would have guessed that why again here's the here's my beef with it and it's not him. I'm okay with him but I've already seen his story. His story was told as our truth <hes> then he got fired to T._N._A.. Became Ron killings and he came back as our truth he peaked with capital punishment <hes> and him and MS is it John Cena and all that stuff. I've seen his character. I'm fucking done with this care. Obviously putting the title on him is so they could get to this <hes> ru seven Nakimora tag team. That's going to happen anyway. Anybody could have been a whole hawk. INSANE IS GONNA fuck. Obviously he's attacking but it could've been could've been arrows. It could have been whoever the fuck they wanted to throw in there yeah. Could you know I always go. It could've been easy three NEC three could have been any fucking buddy at all another guy this weekend that debuted on the main roster Lacey Evans was out there. Why wasn't he c three? Where's lawyer Sullivan Panic attack doc the catch and that we're going to see him again? We'll get into here yeah <hes> but where was that rumble they might need to go to fifty fucking people because like where was sanity. Where was the good brothers I mean? There are so many people any I'm sorry <hes> going back to this <hes> I. I didn't want our truth because I'm tired of our truth. I wanted a new talent to be like well. Maybe this can go somewhere. We all know that this isn't going anywhere with our are truth. Hold it for weeks and yes somebody's beating amid elimination chamber done. What was your favorite thing in the week? <hes> my favorite thing that we comes from my favorite and in my opinion the best best show in professional wrestling or well we are best podcast and professional wrestling but the best pro wrestling show in pro wrestling that title has been and still is going to smackdown live. My favorite thing in the week is the last segment that closed smackdown live so let's start with how we kicked off. The segment. Daniel Bryan comes out <hes> he names the title daisy because it was a cow furred. She never got experienced Joyce. You only got to experience pain. I never wanted to Burger after he told me this because it made me feel sad that the crowd is sailing. Thank thank you daisy. Thank you thought it was great. Yeah Dow's another part where they're part of the show and then like I think they said recycle or they did some. They had some really good chance in there that didn't make it like overwhelming which Dale brand could get lost. We saw Rodney get lost Dino Ryan's definitely on a different level but what I'm saying he went he fought through it. He didn't allow that chance to go through. He kept going to his promo going to his Promo thought his aside was great. Hey quick for you in hot off the presses. We just got another Hashtag table in live right now going back to the topic. We were just talking about at Mr Fourth row says. I wonder if little Jimmy is proud of truth U._S.. Championship went to the table. I'm sure you anyway again. I've seen all of our drew little Jimmy but going back to Dan O'Brien Daniel Bryan first off like I said that Promo spectacular made me feel guilty. Those kernels of truth makes Promo ten out of ten <hes> but then the unveiling of the belt and we talked about this where I said it should be like a like a pea green and like a mustard color is kind of it was more woman from following notable. Oh here we go so atmosphere fourth also said I hope the new W._B._Z.. Title isn't biodegradable otherwise the longer dangle Brian champion in my start to disappear disappear hashtag joy table I want to buy it looks great. <hes> I sent it to my wife and she was like it looks pretty cool in those I agree I think they thought it was going to get boot and even the crowd was like yeah. I like that it was good inviting. You think that when the universal title debuted remember we all booed that anyhow so I thought the title was perfect I thought role and handing it to Daniel Bryan showing the submissive I answer to this Guy Hi again rolling with the recycled oh in his name thousands per day him dumping it in the trash. When he did was great because you knew that was coming but he did it way before you thought he was going to do it right in the middle of this Robert Wright Oh shit right yeah so I thought everything that he did was just spectacular and then A._J.? Styles comes out right and I was like okay okay so this is where we're going to elimination chamber then Radio Art and comes out and we go to break which is weird but whatever what's that then they went to break which is weird. I was like stupid again. I don't WanNa like go behind the curtain but I think the segment was totally rushed. I think somewhere something got messed up because then everyone was yelling through their lines but so then Jeff Hardy comes out then Mustaf Ali tries to cut a promo he got two seconds Jones out because again I think it was a rush segment but then on top the Oh my God fire Promo so far of two thousand Nineteen Begi Lynch's was amazing Ronda Rousey. He's was eyebrow. Raising captivating could have been a shoot memorable. Samoa Joe didn't get onto that level but everything he said was a home run touchdown. Whatever sports analogy you WANNA use their first cut down Randy Orton same like we haven't tangled yet but when we do know that it won't come out of nowhere using his own life not perfect then Saint Jeff Hardy? I have no idea why you're here and Jeff Hardy trying right like well. I'm GonNa talk over you and he using that A._A.. Line on us the dagger that was the Dagger Brady or even cracked up on Jeff did all right. We'll fuck perfect line. You can tell that was an ad Lib perfect line yeah go ahead. Keep going then rolling into the ring and saying using Mustafa Ali's perfect promo would I said was awesome about the cop thing seen in your eyes. I saw in your eyes that you were unconscious. See your close show. WanNa put your ass to sleep and then the cherry on top the callback two Windy A._J.. Styles silence God damn. I don't for a Promo that was twenty six seconds long. I don't think you could do it any better. However there is one little thing that Mr fourth row pop but it was an little unfortunate for Joey smokey Jo's voice crack when he made the boy amongst men comment has actually the table of all the places his voice cracked it was right when he was saying that like fuck yeah but I think that was his fat transferring from the floor and it just it that it was so passing in everything else thinks it was home run that I forgot about it until I read this tweet the table <hes> but I did notice in the moment I was like woo but if anybody can make like so what crack what the fuck are you going to do about it? Here's my wallet. Here's my wife. Please me right. Where's Wendy killing get Wendy? Yes <hes> Man Samoa Joe Jr <hes> killing it that whole segment I loved again. I felt like it was a little rush because I think Ali wanted to say something new there sorry kid but fucking between the Daniel Bryan unveiling that title working through a crowd that could've taken them <hes> to Samoa Joe Jr it is decimating everyone verbally and then it leading to a bra because that's the other thing that I like to. It didn't just lead to will it gives. We'll make this match next week. I'm a fucking hey you bitch runs fighting. This is this is is a good mix. I feel like for this elimination chamber coming up like I think that's a good mix of superstars. You've got Ordonez in there. He's a veteran go hardy out. I would've put with somebody else. Maybe if I could take anyone out it'd be already but yeah if I could take anyone out it would have been hardy and that's when I would put andrade and out have been drawn in there just to give because again. I'M NOT GONNA end this episode on a bad note but one thing I will point out. We don't always need Mexicans ex- confiding Mexicans ray mysterious can fight someone else yeah. I did like Andrade doing the fucking <hes> Ramos theory. Oh Shit right like the three Amigos yeah perfect yeah. It was like yeah fuck you. Israeli smackdown was great again. One Omission was whereas Oscar you just made demand tap out and you're not gonNA show up that that was weird but again it's to our show I I want Adam Cole and everything because Kobe is the man I'm happy. I'm excited for halftime heat. I'm excited man. Halftime heat's going to kick off a good fun little role that hopefully leads us right into wrestlemainia. You know I am more looking forward to halftime. He than I am the actual Super Bowl game no I'm not you know why the Patriots always have a ferry fun exciting football game. Did you catch the like <hes> it was like a press conference style interview do with Tom Brady and they're talking about Jared Goff and the rams advice giving advice yes what he'll move yeah and what a great advice argument vice after the game right advice when I retire yeah even that like am I may say some new game I got hey. Here's how you could beat me getting to look at in here like yes and that's why Tom Brady. Is Tom Brady. He's like what fuck there. That's <hes> Oh all right so this isn't football. This is pro wrestling yeah. A lot of good came out of rumble especially with the fallout right yeah yeah they both shows. I thought they did the right moves. That made me happy yeah. They do see two they. They've conceded that they go okay this. We're going to go with what the crowd is telling us. We should go with that kind of shone through at least yeah so all right man and before we get out of here nothing nothing else before we get out of here. You can't hear me at all. 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The Rack Extra: Worlds Collide Review

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The Rack Extra: Worlds Collide Review

"Talk Radio DOT COM theme song. This is the fire house and I want to introduce you to some very special friends that that I met along the way this is ABC. Three Max Crown King Robert from the Royal. This is the undisputed future seth rollins failures gains from W WBZ. Hello this is wwe hall of Famer. The heartbreak Kit Shaw Mike. I'm Bristle and I'm offering from ATP Las Vegas Time It's is green and this is nicky. He and what are the balanced broken. Not Haughty the greatest. That ever live always likes that good rack. You're listening to the greatest rack is guaranteed skied. Experience your winning the long my tease I love kick ball. I'm back taken souls Ben Digging Holes. I'm GonNa Break Your pitch you hear me your host and they've been lying to you. Heroes Rose don't exist y'all come addicted to the illusion of what a hero does for you. And I mentioned that I was once addicted to eating. sponges Lindsey War War we look at the woman and you just call me tiger. Oh my God. It's take care taker. 'cause take- her hate me all my gods taker and she was a wicked wicked child spat and swore and chew tobacco of our puppets and her producer. Sir Rocket Model creatures of the night will now experience Song Art of puppetry this right here that that runs the cat Lai wild. Were you'll network and good evening. Everybody welcome to the rack. Extra reviews the US right here on talk radio DOT COM or we are talking all about annex t when worlds collide brought to you by our friends over at MVP films check come on Youtube Dot com slash NBC twelve eleven. I'm your host and see war. Joining the as always is the ever faithful producer. susko slash handyman Sir Rockin and and and we have some very special guests with us. Don't we we do. We'll get to them in the second week of tweet us out while talk radio APP ratio. Where'd you can join us? Talk Radio Market Issue twix reasons to retain live. We're private each time. You could subscribe for free. Just click the purple rectangular button above the screen except the thing but we do have guests to talk about worlds collide twenty twenty the newest I think Creation under of the NFC banner or some thing like that they were trying to promote it as you know the newest thing about takeover 'cause the takeover don't take a world class it's own anyway joining us the annexed analyst Tj. So this is what it's like when worlds collide. Can it happen more often. Yes down it. Could we need something to do. Just cancel the rumble and have diy mustache Russell per four hours. Let's not go that far. The fumble fumble. It's not the this can go on before the rumble. Two hours two hours. I can't with that somebody tell everybody else. They're done that we're just GONNA have. Diy Mustache Mountain. Take it and just do the two rumbles and that's it like everybody else. You're good brain Brian. You can just chill. You know it's fine. It's all fine. You set up like war games so he can have the rumble in one ring ring and then diy mustache. Just go at it all night and the other thing and yet somehow they both when the rumble at the end inexplicably. It's fine. It works is perfect. Perfect Twenty seven twenty eight twenty nine thirty here I anyway we have somebody else. We got introduced that we the problem with the superkid. Two party systems to the assistant region the next time cable. And why did you put the creepy voice on his thing. Because it's rock. Why else would he do it? I told you oh you were banned from using that voice. I I use that voice. This was created before the blame. Rochman I like how my intro hasn't changed since the plan but Brent's is constantly evolving because it's so easy to make fun of him. I mean he just keeps giving his firepower. You're fairly impenetrable bread on the other hand. Just you know splice. Spread himself wide open for things talking about Cheek Division. Let's get into the card tonight. As it says in chat he is scientifically weekly proven to be. I mean that that is true of me very true you could see him holding himself out later during the gray the gray debate on. CBS ALIVE DOT COM. What is your favorite position and curiosity sitting at my computer watching this show? Hey let's get into the show you know this is also presented by NBC films Dot Com Slash M B twelve eleven. Oh my God. This was a night of great wrestling. We're all pregnant. Even the ones of plus they cannot anatomically have that happen. You're pregnant I mean. I would like to personally congratulate Tomasso. Johnny Gargano Trent. Seven and Tyler Beta raid on conceiving. Because I'm pretty sure the entire Internet is pregnant but we're going to talk about that in a little bit. We need to start on the pre show. Well because they deserve their due to where we had kitty rate taking on Mia M. in a non title contest and this was a fun match. Who's pretty pretty good? I should note. I'm Arenella was not the one columnist show. It was Tom. Phillips Mara was often wing Showtime Boxing. So one of his other commitments gave up his other commitment. Delta results is also finding tonight so it was like he had to pick one pick boxing so I mean children Maro. WHO's your favorite? Who Do you love most which one pays more but meantime as a publisher time probably but I mean I love more? Don't get me wrong but I was happy that Tom Phillips was on the show. Oh tonight it's always good to see him. He had nice chemistry with bath so and Nigel so that was good. Yeah so this was a good opener. I Ah yes pre show match whatever you call it. The the best thing that came out of it was the note that happened. When you learn about the team yes I call them a team because back back in Shimmer? They were a team and their team name. Was We do stupid shit while detain great name. Something all up up. They went out there and they had a good good salad match. I want to call it anything. Blow away prove could really enjoy. Well sorry go ahead now. It's just really enjoyable. I will say that like the one thing I didn't care for in this match was where they were doing the pre show because they had it set up on the ramp on the floor. Her and so It was really awkward wing. Katie and MIA came out because they walked out. And there's like just the pre show people just standing there with their lights and their cameras and everything awkwardly watching the wrestlers walkout and they had to walk by all the lights in the cameras and stuff so it just it took away from a little bit. It was a little little bit awkward. It's like you could move that stuff off to the side. You're really could've you could've. But you know they didn't so but would you guys think them admittedly didn't get to see the opening back and watch. You can watch brand. Would you think it was a good opening contest. I mean Kayleigh is you know one of your hard hitters. She's a little crazy being from Scotland. Didn't they even brought up the point. That Nicky Cross even called her a little bit off which is something but it was a nice hard hitting contest between the two. The finish was a little weird but yeah yeah the the holding of the tight weird tights to the fall into the ropes of like somewhat leverage. Yeah it was weird they try to thank. It wasn't one hundred percents successful but you know they're thirteen previous team. Name suggests that they do stupid shit so and should should and mentioned the Kaley Ray was officially called the annex t UK champion said. That brand is also dropped. The word women. Just so we're clear I'm fine with that Kaley array got the win in the opening pre show contest. Let's get into the main show shall we. We're all the fun. Excitement happened so this show started with a match that we weren't expecting it to start with no but Brent what was supposed to be what what you say. The opening match was not. I didn't say that what. What would you thought you did? No I thought Lindsey said they're opening with the tag match because it was the promo that they cut right before and then all of a sudden the main show starts in the other their pets comes on and I was like so about that tag. I mean the air that epic Promo for like DIY and seven Bay right and it's like a fool promo package so it's like okay so I guess they're opening with the tag match which I think everybody would have been fine with the glad. They didn't because got pulled from the other matches on that. Yeah true looking back you kinda go. Y- it good good jobs. I think the way you did works out fine. So what was the opener. So the opener was Finn. Ballard versus Ilia Dragon Dragon named dragon dragging off so since nine over not at all dragging off on the other hand fucking crickets usually is the thing was the music is fine. But Rug brought up a great point. He does a lot during his intro his hands. He's doing so much with the arms. Come down he comes out he's like you're like stop. Does like oppose at the front comes down to the ring. Get in there doing some stuff. Then he gets on the roads in starts conducting to the crowd which doesn't wear. I love the the camera shows the crowd and everyone is just sitting there. Yeah very confused. Like what the Hell is this. No Oh we refuse. You like Ballard kind of senator like what the crap is this that said he won over the crowd during the match. Yeah he he did because he had a kick ass match. The one part I loved about this match was there was one point. Were were dragging off. Look like he was going to try and go through the ropes realized. Ballard wasn't quite there. China did a weird stall and the announcer covered for a while. But it was still one of the things like you're watching the thirty second spot. Going what the hell is he doing. Yeah I did like his. Just bring it on though. That was cool it was. It's fun though. Okay he did. What was this the match with the six one six one line right okay? That is Olympics. Oh look there's one thing about doing rebound clothesline type thing. He just does it for no. He does a renowned for no reason. Like you. Watch tyler elevate in his match. He's doing it for a reason. He just this dude just runs. Does the six one nine spin and just like okay. Kind of it felt very unnecessary. Mississippi brought it felt like his intro. Yeah doing way too much for no reason. Yeah yeah well I mean one thing you can tell is that he's young right like he's young so he's trying to do everything he can to be impressive because he hasn't quite settled into himself or he. He was just really excited to show. This is my time really seeing him. But it's like he he looks like he should have way more swagger than he actually does and you realize that it's like he hasn't grown into yet right like you look at Finn and you look if how thin has like even grown and matured in the last few years he's been wwe. Yeah and that's not excluding where he was when he signed he has the swagger of the. I don't give a fuck at this point type persona. Yeah I think dragging off trying to get there with that but he just hasn't grown into it yet 'cause he still just learning that we're now and it is also I used to getting booze again. You know it was difficult for him because he had to deal with the crowd and the crowd you know started getting into him but again it's like he's using you know people who know who he he is and what he what he does and this like okay. We courtesy arrested Magin. He came out there delivered. One don't go on. I mean the nice thing is the crowding. I didn't get to him. He was able to bring them over to his side. He was able to work very very well with Ballard. Not The you know. Anybody couldn't 'cause Ballard Valor but yeah I mean this is a really solid opener. Would you guys think no. I think it was good. I think that there are there are moments where dragging off. I think really has room to grow in terms of setting up some of those spots in terms of slowing down a bit in terms of some of those spots eliminating the sixth one line because he tried it earlier in the match to doing that. Same between the rope spot in it. It just looks really weird. It's the same thing with the Dean Ambrose when he used to do the rebound down clothesline. It was just kind of like you were waiting for that spot and I just don't want to be one of those things moving forward. Where in a dragon off metric? Oh He's GonNa run towards the do that and then I just throw a clothesline out of nowhere. So I mean he he he performed well. But there's still room for him to grow and I hope that he kind of takes that opportunity in this case you know. Learn from a few people in front of that big crowd and be like okay. Some stuff work some stuff. Didn't let's see where we can go. I'm I'm kind of going with the consensus consensus here. Dragon KNOBS got potential. He still needs to work on a lot of a lot of transitional stuff a lot of just knowing how to keep things smoothing things move going from one spot to the next setting up spots and still put on a good match and ballard stay main. Because we've got this. He's got this thing to him now. Like the demon is always turned on. He just doesn't need them makeup. His that finished that match with super aggressive. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Where he's he hits? All of his moves that fast hits the Kudarat and no no not enough nineteen seventeen as well sixteen ninety start bringing ah with a movie. That's out in nineteen sixty the like he put his like every guy knows stopped on and he's like. Oh okay I'm I'm just GONNA kick your ass now boom boom boom screw you. I win that pseudo coast to coast. Woke up the demon and he decided to lay waste I'd just I have this one request Oh God no it's not that it's not that repented Finn Bell to not be the adore on social like it's really hard to take him seriously sometimes because you see him on. TV right in these. These girls are really super aggressive. Really mean in. It's really awesome right. Get super good and I love it. And then you see him on social dancing and lip synching to his music on his wife's iphone on twitter in shades. It's like dude. Pick a fucking persona and stick with it. dammit there's social media and then there's surfing I mean don't get me wrong. I love him either way. He's super adorable. But it's just like I can't take thank you seriously is. This girl are being guy if you're doing cute stuff on like instagram and twitter and stuff like that like I. Just I can't because it reminds me of how lake much of a lovable Dork you are and then then I love you and I'm not supposed to love you and that's a problem. Stop it Lindsey. Just love him just love him a what him. And that's fine. I mean I've let him in accepted fin. There was a lot crotch-grabbing in this one to break. Yeah so they go at one point dragging off decides to I dunno joined the Ballard Club innocence and starts to lift him up thin fights out of it and then later he does the same spot into a suplex which I will say is rather impressive. But it's still a matter of he's sitting there grabbing and clasping his hands an inch away from the junk which has talked about is fairly inescapable. Right now how all out there just in everybody's faces the announcers are calling it. What like a Roman grip or something weird like that? Is that what they didn't Rome. I'm just like okay. Mother Russia is going to the past. Now what can we just call it what it was and Dick lift and be done with it. Yeah yeah it was I mean it. It's not quite the Joey Ryan Dick Plex. But it's the new version. They rip off. Everybody else's moves. I I have a funny feeling that that was supposed to be something different or supposed to be handled a little bit differently. No Pun intended him. Because we're all adults here right and just that's how it happened. I don't know I just feel like that wasn't supposed to be the way that was supposed to be but I could be the entirely wrong that from that position. I think it's the only way they could go because it wasn't like he was going for a waste. Lock and missed it was he came up from under. You're and locked it in and it's just like wait what I feel like. You're not supposed to hold somebody for an extended period of time in that particular grip yet. I think the look that Finn had on his face was legit like wait. What what's going on Dude Dude? Do not there. That's a no spot we've had the talk for. HR So anyway filler. Is your winner of this contest. Then we cut to ringside. We learned that not only. Is the winner going. Are we get a trophy on Wednesday night. The winner of the dusty classic is also getting a tag team title shot at takeover Portland Gate. Can we talk about the the pete the Promo so polar opposites Pete done and Matt Riddle versus the Grizzle Missile Young Veterans Right so grisly young veterans cut of the typical. Bad Guy. We're GONNA win Gir- mean promo kind of thing coming and then there's Matt Right. The one part. I love about the grisly young Veterans Promo. Is You have the one guy talking and you have the other guy mouth thing the same promo mouth. Yeah like no because I feel like is his name. Gibson says name. Our beliefs like Gibson's accent is so thick. Sometimes he's a little hard to understand so I feel like the other one was mouthing Gibson's Promo so that way people could read lips for those of the hearing impaired. Here's your close captioning for the Liverpool impaired like during ago then rid riddell did his little promo but it was pete who stole a show and he was he was very blunt about it and when you said the word Blunt Matt Reynolds face just lip. Yeah you got on TV and then we're going to we're going to like blow you up in smoke or something like that references. In there he said rental would smoke. Both and I'm on once. You're no my favorite part was pete done. Pete is smiling ear to ear. Looks over Pete's just standing there with that same expression that he always has and Matt's like that's his happy face that is ear for him. The God this is the best that I love it and the ends with the whole bitter end says the word bit around and he goes Bro. ooh and the crowds aided up fantastic. Wonderful I didn't think I would like them is apparent. They work for you you. You put it into the chat chat during the show and it's like tencent purposes. This team should not a pair. Nope you have. You have main nasty. beat the ever. We're living shit out of you pete. Done you have just rolled out of the Greek House. Stone her Bro Dude in a going surfing in his off time Matt Riddle. They like the guys that would just beat the hell out of each other on a Friday night at a bar but no they're teaming together and it's fucking wait. I Love Them. I love them so much. I kind of want them to stay together for a little while after this is over maybe the belts. Maybe they they do like maybe they win the titles and that would be wonderful because like the thing with P.. That makes Pete so good is he's he's what he's doing he's really really really subtle but he can make it work with anybody right like you know on guide or Bagai side so like teaming with riddle. It's not a problem for him. Because he's worked with Trent who is very similar in that regard when trance being not serious and he's just being entrenched so he already kind of has the practice with it so he can just plug what he's doing into what riddles doing and boom there you go it just works Cassini just plays out really hard straight man or he's just like no not give me that nope but when he does do stuff like you know. I'm going to be really blunt and Dan Matt Rentals going to believe in that kind of thing. It's perfect I just have to say if Matt Riddle does happen to turn on done he has has never teaming with anyone ever again back to will even be able to trust them. He's been burned so many times. Yeah they're married. They're all married at at this point. I'm pretty sure tranquilli raised. Pete see only reason he has manners. Is Life Mates. Got It so all right next. Match match next match was women's match next canal. cruiserweight match was next. That was it with the brand new can when we talk about it. Stunning Gorgeous cruiserweight. Title and Exte- Concert T.. cruiserweight title. I mean they added a logo and change the strap color. But Oh my God what difference people are with the black is sexy. I'M NOT GONNA lie like I know I know like everybody's like it's just black leather right right but that bell on top of or the title on top of the black leather it just sexy like ready it will. It's silver and black. You know it's hard to make that. Look bad. People have done it. People have done it but in an age where. wwe where it's like all the titles are on a different color leather. The fact that they did put this on a took it from purple to black. It's just like aw that's so nice and meaning that was. That was the two of color which doesn't seem to be much the thing anymore. Yeah I I think the signifies the death of two oh five lives so fs and chat for that But I do have one issue with this match which I know is GonNa GonNa get brought up on twitter so I'm going to bring it up here. Hold on it is angel. Garvers Isaiah source covers. Trust Banks George Devlin From cruiser tells us figure we named who was in the match. Go back stop using the Canadian destroyer as a cut off move. Yes thank God Ron. Please stop doing that. And the only reason I say that is I know somewhere on twitter. Petey Williams is really super pissed right now I mean yeah go ahead well keep on going because every time it happens he calls it out 'cause well he hates the fact that they changed changed the name to it because he named it after a mentor. But I hate when I hate how often I see Canadian destroyers. Now when it's just a a transitional move or like a quick counter because it's such a devastating move you're spinning somewhat upside down skull-crushing them there shouldn't be any getting up from that. I blame the death of the move on Ricky Morton I mean you could. He had crawl back in order to attempt emptive true. Well I think you have been using it more and more and more especially when Williams like 'cause I retired for a while over it using using it you go. Thus use differ while Dustin Rhodes Adam whole uses it under a new name but like that really should be like because it was and maybe that's where I'm like. We're all KINDA coming from. It is back in the day back when it was PD. Mainly using it it was that was it eh. He hit that move. That was it it was over. And if somebody kicked out of that it was like Oh crap and it was awhile before anyone kicked out of it. One to crack. Brent Coles is more of the flipping into a piledriver more so than the Canadians rare. But I mean it's still. It's still the same thing. He just adds a jump to it and the pilots. It's a cousin was is not the move. Also the move. I we need to stop doing doing because one of them could have got. Is the Spanish fly. We need to stop the Spanish like everyone does. It doesn't mean everyone does God so impressive but we see it seven times a week. Is the Spanish fly. We need to stop doing it because it's not especially move and then when you try to make a special where you do a double one and then you can't fully flip you might hurt yourself really really bad. Yeah yeah they were out from under him on that and if it weren't for the fact that the two guys that we're supposed to take the move performed the flips anyway FL pretty flawlessly could've ended up really badly but there were some really cool spots in this match some really inventive spots like overall the match was really really really good like we should. We should say that this was an excellent match. All four guys did really well together There was a very interesting modified tower. Our Doom Thou did. Yeah that was cool as hell. There were lots of flips. There're lots of throwing 's or lots of dives it was a cruiserweight match. Everything is let's see from cruiserweight match but with really talented people. You had lots of kicks to the face for Travis Banks Jordan Devlin but in the end it ain't Garza and his power stripper pants. Were not enough to pull it out this sorry I had the chance. Come up and it's still can't pull it out. What yet? Yeah well. That's how devastating reading. This is because your brand new cruiserweight champion is Jordan. Devlin your Angel Guards try to break get up. He just came a little too late really What he did the same for the night folks light so he so he came up short it is just a tad? He did measures. He couldn't go the distance. You just couldn't laughed. It has a lot Oughta guys when you compare it to a lot of the people. His reign was very short. It was it was yeah but now an extra. UK has the secondary title. It's fine for now I I would expect it to be dropped for either on TV or at takeover. That I I'm okay with it staying staying over there for the time being just because it it gives you something to fight for until they get a secondary title if they're going to get one because it's like even even with two hours of annex t the cruise title got lost on an xt but it also has to five live and you still need it for two or four laps definite staying here for Awhile Doc. It's probably staying here but how much longer realistically. How much long are they gonna be doing to a five live for the foreseeable future because it's still As they make money it content for the network. Anyway what's next so up. Next I believe is the one we were talking about the tag match before the match Keith Lee. He was shown and Chelsea Green with Robert Stone. They were in the front row and Yelm after her match and and then after losing yeah she's she's not in the best spot so anyway the match what I would argue is is the match of the night back to the aid of the decade matter the weekend so far we'll see what happens tomorrow on Rumble Decade of decade. Well one would wait. which decade preview tackling the coming decade? Because we're in a twitter year. We're not in the twitter year of explains in written decade match decayed starts here okay fine anyway. Diy Johnny Gargano Tomasa Giampa taking on and Mustache Mountain Tyler. Eight and Trent seven holy crap this match the Johnny match color wise is still being the black heart with his ear but you know the polar opposite Johnny comes running out. He's all excited into Moscow. Just walks out. He's he's being in him or or the corner spot where Johnny's doing his normal psych up and looking out at the crowd into Moscow just stands there doing simple wave organic is pumped. JOPPA is the queen of England right now also was pumped but in a lesser way they were pumped on the inside. They had so much fun early. That's so much fun throughout fun. Stop no but it means that the comedy spots mainly were Great Gargano leg clean break and then they shook hands. They applaud each other than there was an and in seven posing the postal seven trying to show them do the moustached chopping doing the flags. And you just see Seven warm up warm up no forget it to shake. Trent knows limits threat. God love him but you can't reflects what he has. Then they did waving trumpeted his wave seventy his wave. Just Yeah Oh and then it was the the hat on the back. Spot was fantastic. Grace just Johnny thing about here let me let me do keep up on the ring. It usually jump kind of look at them and like all right. Let's do it the strength to that was fantastic. That was like tomato Tomasso. Come on that's B.. Because he kept holding his hand up where tyler could reach it because to Moscow's taller than Tyler. Tyler is looking at him like really really really. You're GonNa do this to me old man you do this to me. And then when they got serious about the wrestling it was just like this was a clinic. This was an absolute clinic. This was beautiful. This was so much fun to watch. It was the perfect amount of time. Even now we say you can just cancel everything else will watch four hours of this but this was so many near falls so like there were spots where you do. You think they're gonNA wind. They go another way like the say. The quick saves. Oh yeah this is how you do you know A. Are you know a close this call for the pin fall like the the one that I'll point to especially was the burning hammer that they did. You know they nail that and it's one to and I think everyone was just like Oh this really could be it and then all of a sudden the kickout and everyone was like Whoa two point nine nine nine nine exactly clete and then the the other great spot was tyler saving his boy Trenton. Saving his boy He will always save his son always but I mean we got the double submission spot to Nice that was nice throwback the once it was Chapa was in trouble then I think Bait went to Typo. He's going to dive and she at the last second. Pull down seven on on top of him to take the blow. Oh yeah he Yes seven was holding his hance And he was doing that kind of like corkscrew. Santa Anton and at the last second pull on top That was creative of very creative. Spot I mean for a mashed had virtually no bill none no heat. It's hey you WANNA fight. Yeah Yeah let's go. This match had everything you could ever ask for. They actually put a story into this match that they told old when there was none like there was nothing it was just literally. Hey you WANNA go there. It's a friendly contests and there was so much in this and I love everything about about this match. I need to go back and watch it on the vodka because I just WanNa watch it again because I just want to pick up on all those small little details that they did because there was so much to unpack in in this match so much all things and I just love it. Plus I've just I've missing Mustache Mountain together. I know they're off doing their own individual things and they're are all very happy to get you know on their own. But I like it when Trent and Tyler worked together I like it when it's the trio and it made me very happy that they had the trio walk walk in on the pre show Like yeah either they are. They're all together. They're all happy good job. But there's just a chemistry there between Lean Trenton Tyler that I just love and the same thing is true for Johnny and shop like I would love to have this match one more time but it's a one only because Tomasso and Johny are not going to reform. DIY THEY'RE NOT GONNA go back as attack team. They're not GONNA do that. They're going to go off and do their own singles careers. And that's fine is still got matching gear for the occasion. Though which was look. If you're going to do it. You do that. Shit right. They are the modern day Shawn Hunter they are they can feud they they can destroy each other and then come back together and when they're needed to fight as a team they'll fight as a team but they're also going to do their own separate thing. Well well I mean yeah. That's what you said or like you said it's like the the best part of the whole Johnny and Tomasso Saga Right that Ah year two to year few that they had where they just had epic level battles. They tried to murder each other on multiple occasions. Johnny loss the ship for Awhile Tomas O.. Got Hurt and in the end like after it's all said and done right after. They've gone through everything they've gone through the betrayals the the battles all of it you know they end up as friends. There may be not be good friends but they're friends and I love that I love. Oh you know it's like yeah. They they disagreed and yeah they had a war but in the end it's like they can be big enough to both admit that it's like you know what I need you and you need me too. So let's work together and that's cool. That's really cool that they did that so in the end. DIY got the win. I'm fine with this. I would have been fine with either or give them all the stars give them all the stars all Infinite Infinite Star match. How about that? You told him it was a mix of everything it there's good comedy good wrestling good storytelling. It had everything everything you want and I felt really bad for you. Had to follow this but before we get to that high Mercedes Mercedes Martinez in the Kernel High Dakota in the crowd. Oh Oh wait oh hi CODA in the well there goes. Oh Hi TEAGAN GONNA kick. The coach is in the crowd high. She ended marvel great tonight. She just came in there. And while up on the coke they. I was sitting here yelling at my TV. Let them fight let them fight. Just let them go. Just tell Rian Tony to hold on. It'll we find just let these to go for about ten minutes at ringside and we'll all be okay like its you talk about a pull apart brawl. All those security guys were having a God damn hard time holding onto both of them because Dakota was ready to like lash back which was great. She was doing the cowardly. He'll he'll thing she was like. Oh No no you won't Fi. You WanNa go come on. Let's go right now. Come on and the security guys let go of him. I was very disappointed race. You WanNA watch Wednesday. Hello Winston. Someone's going to die beautiful. Hypothetically the fight I mean are we hypothetically authentically Hillary's this legit now to you. Went out and killed him pitch tonight. It's fine he's coming to the best part about it too. It's like you said it was. Just you see Dakota there with her little scowl like what am I doing here and they just out of nowhere. Oh where you see this blast of white all of a sudden boom fares teagan knocks. She's a blur she was even like you didn't even open was for about five seconds. You just saw this blur of purse and Take Dakota out is great but then we had oh hi Bianca. Aw Video Package Hi Bianca. Roll them all at once and Bianca. Is there to yoga. Good tonight do but it was the I have to compete. She up the match. So the match was rea- Ripley taking on Tony Storm for the NFL Earth for the annex t championship this match. And I don't know whether it was because it had to follow a really really strong tag match and then a really strong brawl. I don't it was the length but I know that both rea- Antoni storm can have a really really good match because I've seen it. This was not that good good but it wasn't. It felt like it could have gone for about five to ten more minutes and it would have been so much more stronger because I don't feel like they ever hit second Garron this. I don't think they had the time to. They weren't given the time to they. But they got the smarts and they delivered a solid wrestling match up. It wasn't we're we're not put his position and go. Hey you gotta steal the show. It was like re- has to defend the title Riaz to get more of a momentum. Bill even if she's really hot at the moment is like Tony's neither do not trying to make Tony Tonight. It was all about continuing reas. Push Rios hype. That's what we got in this. I get that but I I know they can have a better match. I wish it was. I wish it was one of those like it was still good. It was still enjoyable still fine but I wish they had just gotten a a little bit more time to shine. That's all what did you think I'm kind of in the same boat. I mean I understand wanting a slower pace cool down match between the main ain't events and that I do wish they had a little bit more time to show what they can do It it did feel very much like we just gave rea- the title she. She needs somebody to beat. So let's go ahead and put on the card and give her an easy win. I shouldn't say easy but still like it it. It felt like it was there surfer and that was to make sure you know. Our new champion was champion material Brent. Yeah it's it's been kind of said but to me. The match felt felt like they they got going but it was always stuck in between gears. Like you're waiting for it to ratchet up at some point but it never you really got to that that next spotting the gearshift those kind of like okay It's over. I mean it kind of made you want to watch a little more her but the problem is we're not really going to get another match between these two for for a while because now you've got really a move onto Bianca and Tony's going to go back doc to an extent UK. And Continue. Kind of. I think this little bit of a slow decline into she doesn't have the title. It's going to drive her crazy but rock was. There was a move during this match that you also talked about never wanting to see again. Oh the corner. The SUPLEX thing stopping German the corner German to to stop it. You'RE GONNA I've been running around months ago when Charles then it's like stop it. Stop the move. It's terrible 'cause you can really hurt yourself. You've on this one. She hit she hit the pad twice. She hit the first one on the actual suplex and then came down onto the second and yet that could've ended up really he badly as well to stop the match. Stop it steps up doing move. It's not our anyway. Rear retained good match nothing nothing special. The this is solid contest. Let's talk about our main event all right so this was undisputed era taking on imperium. I'm just GonNa say this because I honestly believe it i. I'm of the opinion. Walter could have easily taken on all four members of undisputed era and beat them all into the ground round. Singlehandedly will not be convinced otherwise of this. That man is just a goddamn beast. Like how do you stop that. He's Taylor. I've never seen people get mauled like that. Never Holy Crap Yeah This is probably why people are so pissed. Stop in his booking at survivor series. Yeah Yeah I can see why but before we get into this more. We have to interject for this week's injury. Rambo loans breaking back strategy so snapping. Its this week's injury round bright would you like to announce what the injury story was. Well there might have been too by the end of the match but the first one Alexander Wolf was probable concussion brain Brent. He got knocked the F. out yeah slightly off of that double team move and just out like a light okay. So we're probably fish fish. So he got caught in he was knocked out Medical staff join AAA guy. Get him out of there and they left. It hasn't was so so that that's the official update on him hall. Yeah so Aleph imperium down the three men against four men in this they covered. It was a hell. Oh Yeah it's one of those things like I'll admit I don't get to see a lot of imperial you know about Walter after you've seen him in certain aspects but you don't really get to see EICHNER and bartell a lot and at least in this match you've got to see them in what they can do throughout the match. I mean they were mostly playing people in peril but it was nice to be able to see them and see what they were capable of but the poor chess of the undisputed there the poor. They're not just. That walter is a new shade of pinker read. Thanks to Roderick strong to well. We saw last year Daniel Bryan get lit up by Rodrick. Strong in the I think it was the rumble. Any head the the blood blister style L. spotting on him under his chops aren't they're not just chops their clubs and Kudos for anyone who can take one of those. Yeah it's like Walter. Hit some of those. I thought they're going to have bruises on their back from that but yeah this was fantastic. Everyone got their spots in and everyone looks like a star so many near falls in the end but but by the end Walter just went. Okay I can we talk about the table spot. The the ladies like the the God damn table spot were Walter went smashing a table. He was about the mall all people through the Vale. When they're like nope put you through? I think he just exploded that table. Like I think at some point. The match for me matched you just pure self-defense. On undisputed eras part. Because they're like we just we really don't feel like dying tonight so we're just we're gonna do everything we can just to stop Walter because because at some point they just stopped caring about the other two. Because it's like Walter wishes that dominant that it's like he's the one we gotta stop and we can't do it so we're just going to make sure that nothing bad happens to us. It's like rods jobs. That was pure self-defense. That was nothing else other than that. It's like you're going to get club. I Walter it's like. We got at least try to give some of it back to him in so roddy tried to step to the plate on that one but like I said Walter by the Anderson. I'M GONNA take over this matchup. He you just destroy everyone. He just started laying waste of people but He missed the fish Mrs Slash and then while they're finish them off with the fish off with a drop kick in the power Bowman imperium got the win fine with this totally fine with it. Everyone was good with this. You you know honestly I feel like either team would have won and everybody would have been okay with a and that was the case for a lot of these matches tonight because they were just so good that it was like either or could have one and we all would have been fine with it because the mashes just delivered tonight which they always do on takeover her this is the non takeover takeover. But it was a damn takeover but sorry I was GonNa say just in just in pure your quality yes it's a takeover in terms of name and the way it was billed yet. It's it's not technically under that banner but it's attainable But I feel like the British showed up. They came to play like they. They knew what this was. This was approved Garin for them. They're putting them out in front of the the full audience 'cause they just hadn't event they just had takeover Blackpool and that was on the network but this is rumble weekend this is in front of the US audience. which is the main audience? They're getting put in with the main annex t people some of them are probably GonNa turn up tomorrow in the rumble. I wouldn't be at least it's prized out here in a second so so like the Brits that were here they showed up to play because they understand. This is huge opportunity for them. And as always the the the main roster annex t people knew what this was knew what was on the line and they delivered as well which they always do like they never not deliver on a takeover slash worlds collide slash network. Abed they never not just an NFC network. That's what it is now just an NFC network event so many new names I know it's a new franchise. Worlds collide is the new franchise launched us. They call it A couple of things that will help Branko picks one triple h noted that on Wednesday on annex t we will get the announcement of who out who will face on Koa in Portland for the title so alter not officially announce if it's Tomasz. No but he said it will be epic so pardon me now thinks it might be Walter. Oh God I pray for your chest I I worry for his soul because Baltar. She's going to club him into the ground and take his title calls GonNa come out for that match. Go Way wait I wait. This wasn't supposed must be a casket match. We know were just preparing. Yeah Orkney to Moscow or it could be someone else who knows But he used the word epoch and number two do we in Regal has been in conversations with Monday night raw and smackdown annex t will be involved in a rumble tomorrow. Felt like it just said that he said had they need to be careful because NFC could dominate. The entire thing says quote. This could be limitless. I mean it could be or more hell Walter could be in the moral face off against progress. Nurmi let's I I don't care what number it is if it's anywhere from one to ten brock just clearing house and he's standing there with that smug fucking look on his face and you hear the Orchestra Orchestra. I just want to see the look on his face of Shots the best thing. The best thing would be if Walter was number two. Yeah what you what you expect is for brock to just face this gauntlet of people that he just heaves over the top rope one after after another until some big guy comes into stop it one of its number two you know. What if you're anybody after those two you wait politely on the outside of the ring until they're done you don't get involved in that you just stand there and wait just somewhat flipping? God Oh God. There's a lumberjack match coach. Now okay. Twelve people waiting. I know this can't be the first three but I want for rock Walter to have a staredown and all of a sudden in the middle rising up into frame keithly. Jesus you just done. Obviously I would not mind Brockton Walter Mania. I'm not even GONNA lie like I would be okay with that. Because here's the thing like for Rumble Brock. Standing there with that stupid smirk on his face right walters music comes out and brock's like what the crap is this because he doesn't know who Walter is right so walter comes Out stands toe to toe with Brock. And Brock's I yeah. Okay all right. You're going to beat me up Kinda pushes Walter and Walter just comes across him with one of those chops. Let's let's go. That's the wake up moment that like you never met anyone like this one before. Good luck have fun with him like I just I just WanNa see those size. Each other up could be interesting. But that's the way rumble tomorrow at anything's possible. But Brent results okay so oh we had our picks for tonight things kind of went the way that we may have thought Overall Annex T U K three wins on the night an X.. T. Three wins on the night. Now in terms of people Lindsey width it. Three three for the Knight's Damn She. She had some faith in mustache. Mountain Garza and undisputed era the the magic eight ball all that or went four into it. Also Garza and me a Yelm winning rock both of us went five and one we just did not not pick the we didn't pick the cruiserweight title well but at least someone with someone from the UK. I I went with a title change so I was. I was technically rights brand with Kiwi. You didn't technically go with the UK the UK brand is part of the Commonwealth still went with a Kiwi. You have a problem you know I honestly I I message in the champ. I loved his tights. The fact that the incorporated the firm into him. I thought that was great. Wait but instead. We got bargain-basement Fin Valor for the win. I need fend versus thin white again like I just need that. I don't know why why I need that. For a second. I thought fan was facing him as like. Oh we get Finn like mini fan. That should be fun. Thought she had contacts in for the night. Yeah Kata but that's still. That's a look Brent context you just can't say oh I thought he contacts and give context to what you're saying. Oh Doc so rot. Posted a picture of Ripley looking extremely bad ass windy. Yeah and and Lindsey and she's wearing these white light contacts which I thought I saw during the match but I wasn't sure they're not. They're not quite that piercing blue. That sath had when he did the The ice king but they're white and it looks really menacing on her so I think I think that's it. We're done anything else. We need to add talk about the. We're good here. Any final thoughts a mega brand more. I need to wash annexed to. UK were often. That's the biggest thing to come out of this. Is that like Lindsey talked about this. This was a spotlight a bit on annex t UK. And if you haven't watched him now you get to see them and go. Wow walters had posing you know Jordan Devlin and banks are good mustache. Mountain is what I WANNA see. It gave you something to look forward to if you wanted to get more pro wrestling in and the fact that UK is worth the lauch fun rock more pro wrestling. There's so much watch thankfully if if you don't want to watch you a UK when it airs which I would strongly recommend everybody does If you have the time but if not it's always available on demand on the w network for just ninety nine thing so you can go check that out if you want and I may be watching in some episodes tomorrow just to catch up. Just out of curiosity. If William Regal is going to have people in the rumble at ringside and share for them like he totally totally showed like he just cheers on his faster children with her he. Just you know because we didn't have enough William Regal tonight. We kinda should've but anyway I think that does it for us. What do you guys think coming up in the minute? Like five load in. 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WKPWP - WWE Royal Rumble & NXT Takeover Previews w/Keller & Sam Roberts: Match by Match predictions and hype analysis (1-25-19)

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

1:41:22 hr | 1 year ago

WKPWP - WWE Royal Rumble & NXT Takeover Previews w/Keller & Sam Roberts: Match by Match predictions and hype analysis (1-25-19)

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