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"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
Bucks Put Heat on Brink, Win 113-84 for 3-0 Series Lead
"Khris Middleton scored twenty two points and drew out a in the honest intent to Kubo each had double doubles as the box rolled to a one thirteen eighty four victory over the heat holiday finished with nineteen points and twelve assists and ten to Kubo added seventeen points and seventeen rebounds set the tone early in the game we know how to put in this game was you know Kmart you will give you guys a fraud will rebound the ball we just we just represented some basically brook Lopez chipped in thirteen points for the box who have won their last two games by a combined sixty three points Jimmy Butler scored nineteen points and bam Adebayo had seventeen for the heat Miami will try to avoid elimination when host game four on Saturday I'm the ferry
Bucks beat Heat 122-108, maintain bid for East's No. 2 seed
"Khris Middleton I bring Forbes scored twenty one points a piece in the box one twenty to one await victory over the heat drew holiday added twenty points and ten assists for the box in what could be a first round preview Kendrick Nunn provided a season high thirty one points for the heat who were without leading scorer Jimmy Butler due to lower back tightness the win allowed Milwaukee to stay alive in the battle with the nets for the number two seed in the east the bucs will get the second seed with a win at Chicago on Sunday at a Brooklyn lost to the Cavaliers I'm the ferry
Towns, Edwards Stick up for Each Other After Timberwolves Loss to Heat
"While john. You're at the center of a pretty entertaining moment at a press conference. Recently after the timber wolves played against the heat and their former teammate. Jimmy butler can you tell us about the exchange you had with t. Wolves players anthony edwards. And karl anthony towns after that game. Yeah it was entertaining. And that's for sure. Tiffany as people may know. Carla anthony towns and the timber wolves in general have a little bit of a history with jimmy butler. He orchestrated his way out of minnesota. A couple of years ago there was no love. Lost so the timber wolves. Replaying the heat in miami. And it was a kind of renewal of the good tidings. If you might say between. Karl anthony towns jimmy butler kurlansky. Towns are really going at it. And they're gonna call technicals on jimmy. You picked up some of that. Otherwise people listen for themselves until after the game of course we have to ask our towns about that. Where where your emotions running high at that point where we're going through your head is that game came to an end there. It just so happens that he and anthony edwards doing a joint press conference and anthony edwards really kind of stepped in and took the reins mandate grown man. Let me just talking having a regular compensation gagged me me. Y'all come to see us compete. It's no competition. If we not six it was just a really illuminating kind of exchange tiffany because here's a nineteen year old rookie. Who understands that. The veteran right by his side has never been one that wants to engage in the public kind of mudslinging that jimmy butler let many players in the nba enjoy. Doing he always wants to stay above that. And anthony edwards understood. That and said i'm gonna make sure that squash this before it becomes a major thing and he did just that
Heat Stay No. 5 in the East, Roll Past 76ers 106-94
"The heat held on to the fifth seed in the east as Jimmy Butler scored twenty one points and bam Adebayo had a double double at one oh six ninety four victory over the top seeded seventy Sixers Adebayor delivered eighteen points and twelve rebounds for the heat who led thirty eight twenty two in the first quarter and were never threatened or different flying very best well we still have some errors that we can clean up but for the most part you get that that the player it's so you know you start your day it's so definitely great to get these coupled with the outcome puts the Sixers one game ahead of the nets for the top seed in the east with two games remaining for each club I'm Dave Ferrie
Heat Clinch Playoff Spot With 129–121 Victory Over Celtics
"The heat clinched a playoff spot unlocked the Celtics into the play in tournament with a one twenty nine one twenty one victory against Boston Tyler hero provided twenty four points for Miami which moved into a tie with Atlanta for the fifth seed in the east where every player works on when the lights are on you know you put the time in behind the scenes and when the lights turn on that's on the bill so if you're not ready ready for another run again I'm excited bam Adebayo and Duncan Robinson each scored twenty two points helping the heat beat the Celtics for the second time in three days Miami star Jimmy Butler had thirteen points before missing the second half of an eye injury Kemba Walker had a team high thirty six points as the Celtics lost a regular season home finale I'm Dave Ferrie
Butler Strong Down Stretch, Heat Hold off Celtics 130-124
"They he took a major step toward avoiding the NBA's play internet by holding up the Celtics one thirty one twenty four Jimmy Butler provided twenty six points eleven assists as Miami took a two game lead over Boston for the six seed in east it's our school work jobs to help win games of football games before well my guys are open I've always store to them especially cutting you guys are open at three it just makes my job easier later on he led by as many as twenty six in the first half before the Celtics storm back over in the third quarter on a twenty two eight run to get within twelve Duncan Robinson added twenty two points in bam Adebayo finished with twenty four Miami seven four he scored thirty points to lead the Celtics who have lost three out of four I'm Dave Ferrie
Suns Get Big Night From Bench, Cruise Past Heat 106-86
"D. Andre eight and led the way with nineteen points and thirteen rebounds as the Suns overcame a thirteen point first quarter deficit to defeat the heat won all six eighty six despite off nights by Devin Booker and Chris Paul for reserve scored in double figures as the bench combined for a season high sixty five points Phoenix has now won ten of their last eleven games including three straight Jimmy Butler led the heat with eighteen points and eight assists towards here Phoenix
Adebayo Has 22 Points, Heat Beat Blazers 107-98
"The Miami Heat won for the sixth time in their last seven games with a one oh seven ninety eight victory over the Portland trail Blazers bam Adebayo led the heat with twenty two points while Jimmy Butler scored twenty points that four steals as Miami built a twenty point fourth quarter lead and for seventeen Portland turnovers the defense also held Portland's Damian Lillard to just twelve points seventeen below his season average on three for ten shooting with five turnovers CJ McCollum and norm Powell each scored seventeen points apiece for the trailblazers I'm Jim Bernard
Butler scores 28, Heat beat depleted Lakers 110-104
"Jimmy Butler scored twenty eight points to lead the past the Lakers won ten one oh four Victor Oladipo added eighteen points but limped off the court favoring his right knee after a dunk late in the fourth quarter Tyler hero finished with fifteen points for the heat who bounced back from Tuesday's twelve point home loss against Memphis LA continued to play with that lebron James and Effie Davis and the Lakers had to go without Kyle Kuzma due to a strained calf heat center bam Adebayo says they didn't take the Lakers lightly still it doesn't matter yes they still are engaged they still continues Caldwell pope scored twenty eight points for Los Angeles including six of eleven from three point range I'm Dave Ferrie
Miami Heat Snap A 6-Game Losing Streak With 98-88 Win Over New York Knicks
"Our league pass. Game of the night is heat. Knicks the knicks at one. Three in a row find themselves in the number four spot the heat on the other hand they lost six straight games entering the eighth spot. Two games behind new york now. Victory depot will not play. Tonight is yet to shoot up for the heats and richard. What's the biggest reason for miami. Skit i don't know because they pointed to co bid and they pointed to all of those things and injuries at the beginning of the season and now they were healthy. They started going and start playing and they were pointing to the help now. Jimmy butler played all but one game over the six game losing streak. So i'm not sure what it
Butler, Dragic carry Heat past NBA-best Jazz, 124-116
"They need to have a season high five game winning streak after Jimmy Butler poured in a season high thirty three points in at one twenty four one sixteen win over the jazz we just try to get better each and every day I think we're moving in the right direction we definitely are but I mean everything looks good whenever you whenever you where we end up losing a stand in line to be a completely different scoring dragons tied a season best with twenty six points as Miami handed you to adjust the third loss in its last twenty five games bam Adebayo scored nineteen points and grabbed eleven rebounds for the heat who shot fifteen for forty six from three point range and won the battle of the boards forty nine thirty six Donovan Mitchell scored thirty for the jazz Utah remains the NBA's top team despite falling to twenty six and seven I'm Dave very
Butler leads Heat to 4th straight win, 116-108 over Raptors
"Jimmy Butler scored fourteen of his twenty seven points in the fourth quarter is the heat picked up their fourth win in a row one sixteen one await over the raptors Butler also had ten assists and eight rebounds from Miami and hit two of his three pointers down the stretch bam Adebayo had nineteen points and twelve rebounds in the heat eight women eleven games since a seven and fourteen start raptors guard Kyle Lowry scored twenty four points in his return from a thumb injury Fred vanvleet also at twenty four for Toronto which has dropped two straight since a four game winning streak I'm Dave Ferrie
Heat hold off depleted Lakers 96-94 in NBA Finals rematch
"In their first meeting since last season's NBA finals but he defeated the Lakers ninety six to ninety four the Lakers nearly forced overtime but Alex Caruso Mister twenty two foot shot at the buzzer Kendrick Nunn scored twenty seven points in the Miami win on our floor was one of my fingerprints on the game whether that's offensively or defensively and tonight US that the office of the got a couple of blocks on the fourth quarter I was pretty huge Jimmy Butler added twenty four points Lakers led by Kyle Kuzma with twenty three lebron James shot only seven for twenty one and finished with nineteen mark Myers Los Angeles
Morris comes up big in Clippers' 125-118 win over Heat
"Though down four starters the clippers still managed to knock off the heat one twenty five to one eighteen for their fourth straight victory LA has the league's top three point shooting offense and they hit fifteen of thirty two from beyond the arc Marcus Morris senior made six and led the charge with a season high thirty two points the V. two zero blood turned twenty two Lou Williams scored a team Jimmy Butler with a thirty point triple double to lead Miami mark Myers Los Angeles
Jimmy Butler has triple-double, leads Heat past Rockets
"Powered by a twenty eight to ten third quarter the Miami Heat won for the fourth straight game beating the Houston Rockets won a one ninety four Houston led by six at halftime but the he connected on seven threes in the third quarter and held the rockets to twenty one percent shooting giving them a lead they wouldn't give up he had coach Erik Spoelstra thought his team's defense was key to the turnaround first up in our shots were going again it always felt and appeared to that was affecting our commitment on the defensive end of the third quarter we just much more committed regardless of the result on the offensive end Jimmy Butler led all scorers with twenty seven points and finished with a triple double John wall and Eric Gordon led the rockets with seventeen points Adam splaine Houston
Nuggets run away from short-handed Heat, 109-82
"The coli okay check twenty one points and eleven rebounds as the nuggets won their fifth straight building a twenty five point halftime lead in the one oh nine eighty two romp over the heat Michael Porter junior scored seventeen points into Michael green added fifteen as Denver improved to foreign on its five game road trip nuggets coach Michael Malone loved the work of Gary Harris who had seven of Denver's twenty nine assistant help Marcus Robinson to three of eleven shooting okay was phenomenal tonight you mentioned seven assists well we have twenty nine thirteen that's what we are unselfish we don't play with each other we play for each other Garion body that's not on offsets the heater two one seven without Jimmy Butler who was finally led to be with the team after two weeks in virus related protocols on the ferry
Harden, Durant help Nets break away late, beat Heat 98-85
"The nets exploded down the stretch and beat the heat ninety eight eighty five strong defense keyed the Brooklyn rally in the fourth quarter they held Miami scoreless on ten consecutive possessions that sparked a fifteen to nothing run as the nets were able to beat the heat twice in three days James harden scored ten of his twenty points in the fourth quarter and talked about his strong finish they want manning a few possessions and you know I got I got loose a little bit so you know my team is no give me confidence to shoot the basketball be aggressive in us that's it he playing shorthanded as Jimmy Butler and Avery Bradley remaining Kobe protocol shot only thirty six percent they were paced by BAM ID bowel who had twenty six points and ten rebounds might make you so
"jimmy butler" Discussed on ESPN Daily
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"jimmy butler" Discussed on ESPN Daily
"He is, and they were one of the only teens that looked at almost the talent I and worried about the narrative after. So, dwayne. Wade is. A sleeper agent for Pat Riley is what you've outlined here. He's a sleeper agent he is. Converting Jimmy Butler too as we now know it Hashtag heat culture. So When D. Wade says this guy is like us. This guy is a heat player. What does that mean? Really What it means is that you are concerned most. Importantly on your work day in and day out. And I'll tell you a quick story that that underscores the for me. I was working on a story wrote about Jimmy in February, and I was talking Dunkin Robinson and I said, how did you know that everything? Was GonNa Click in a way it has he's like I knew early I was like what happened And he goes we had the younger guys working out at the facility in Miami. At like six am every day. This is in September. Jimmy found out about it. He walks in gym. At like five. And he's been working out for an hour. So here comes Duncan Robinson some of these younger guys and their turnaround looking on the floor and. Robinson said the Jimmy looked over and just gotTA. Give him a nod. Like, Hey, what's up? What's going on? So it was kind of like for Jimmy it was love at first sight culturally in just kind of morphed into more from their bobble unite both know there are plenty of people who chuckle and they roll their eyes when you hear he culture but I think it's been drilled into everybody. In Jimmy, is kind of at the top of the chain down there saying, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what we do. We just have to play the game. The Right Way and we have to do. What's bolster tells us to do in that trust level between Jimmy and full Stra and between Spoelstra and the rest of that group in that coaching staff is just gigantic. About an organization that. You have to work in owners five here in everybody's built like that here from the Coast Pat Spo- all of our guys had me like that. That's what I need. That's what I've always been. So I guess it is a great fit. So here we find ourselves nick after all these years after all this trajectory that you've traced for us. We find ourselves maybe at an inflection point in this series We just saw. Erik Spoelstra and Jimmy Butler may be experiencing some tension. Jimmy perhaps being unhappy and the doubters. Would certainly point to that and say that's the Jimmy. Butler I remember and when we talk about heat culture and the drilling of it as you put it. It seems like Jimmy Butler. Is the drill he is the guy who cares more than about anyone else. We can imagine that might be greatest superpower, and so it can help build places up the drill can be a tool for good. and. It could also be a tool to destroy things. How do you think the story ends with Jimmy and is marriage in Miami? I actually actually think it's going to end well. In Pablo of you'd asked me this question a year ago. It's in Hell. I actually. I texted him a few weeks ago. And I told him like I I just WanNa tell you after all these years. This is the happiest I've seen. This is the happiest that I can remember him from a basketball perspective. Being. In. What noses that? No matter what happens here in the next few weeks. It's all going to be okay because he's finally found the right. Place the matches, his personality. I love it. It's my outlet. Whether I'm playing with fifty year olds at the local YMCA. Or dragging my homeboys and one whatever we may be. I. Just I have to play basketball. Is. Not Who I am, but is what I love to do like legit love the game. Miami needed Jimmy. And Jimmy needed Miami. In Pablo I would argue that there is not another team another organization in the League that could have gotten the most out of Jimmy. The way the heat has gotten the most out of Jim. Do you feel like this going to. Be. Here this is this is it for me? Day is always my. I'm.
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Starters
"Because we couldn't wait that extra day. We couldn't wait until Tuesday. Matt wanted to use that Butler drop so bad. He got it. We are going to take a deep dive on the Jimmy Butler to the Sixers trade that happened on Saturday. But we'll also try and find time in this podcast to maybe address the mellow slash rockets. Rumors flying around here is he gonna play another game with Houston. We've got some NBA trivia, we've got a fun quick top five will step on the beach. You got a lot of questions about the Jimmy Butler trade. But yeah. The Butler Jimmy Butler saga is over on Saturday. Minnesota agreed to trade the disgruntled. I believe is how you say that word disgruntled all star to Philadelphia along with Justin patent in exchange for a package that includes Robert Covington Dario, Saric, Jared Bayless and a twenty twenty two second round pick. This goes down on Saturday. A lot of fun your initial reaction to this big news, obviously Jimmy Butler, finally out of Minnesota and going to the east to team up within beedon's hell it, and I think the beginning is it's the right move in theory. It's a great idea. But it's kind of like, Mark Wahlberg suspense drama. How will this baby? And. Off the bat. I think about there in Philadelphia is the right move. But will it end with a five year one hundred ninety million dollar contract at the end of the season that Jimmy is entitled to sign. It's a question Mark on the floor which will get to but also off the floor as well. So it is it's high drama, but in as a concept Jimmy Butler is needed on the Philadelphia. Seventy Sixers to be a a last second score they desperately need one. Yes. This is going to be interesting to see what sort of attitude Jimmy brings now will he bring the combative? Listen, I'm the boss, and I expect everyone to be as work hot as me and be as tough as me, or is it going to be like, it's tough Minnesota pull my head in here and produce because I doubt that. Yeah. Well, I don't know if he's going to walk in there and just immediately stop pointing the finger though, I think he's going to have to earn that respect from from the gonna take a back seat. No, it ain't expected to take it back seat. But I also expect him to to not be quite as. Of a jerk. Yes. Yes. He's sort of. He has that track record. It happens in in Chicago. It happens, of course, Minnesota and the guy is trying to get a five year hundred million dollar type deal here. It'll be on best behaviour. You would you would think. So because if the.
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Underdog
"But to see him shoot the way he has kinda take over. It reminds me a little bit of one Jimmy Butler kind of star turned when Derrick rose got hurt. I feel this LeVine is never going to be the defensive player Jimmy even close to the defensive Jimmy Butler was, but it's interesting to see, you know, the raw pieces turned into more refined resources. Let me ask you. So I've watched one bulls game and Zach LeVine had the ball all the time. All the time. Yeah. Does that hurt the rest of the offense at all? Because it seems like Zach LeVine, he's not a point guard. Obviously he is a guy who was looking to get his own shot. And when you're giving a guy like that the ball is the rest of the offense eventually gonna get stagnant. Yeah. Of course. And that's I think that's a big reason why they're wanted three. Obviously another reason why they're one and three is something you said which was before on got hurt. You said oh boy of Chris done gets hurt. This team's point guard situations bad. And of course, he's now on six to eight weeks. So it is your boy Archie DR known a bunch of you know, Cameron Payne and a bunch of other tank commanders. So, you know, it's I Tyler Ulis Eyler choke God. Yeah. So I just think that you're right. Like when they if they ever get good within their when they get good. That is not the plan. The plan is not to have aquit Vince usage rate, just sky high you want, you know, him and Markkanen and done attention and whoever else they have spreading the ball around. But they just don't have that right now. So in the meantime, it's given him a great chance to really test some things I think in in give him the chance to be to show that he can be the guy at a in a pinch. Or in a big moment that can score one on one. Which is something they were they Headley missing. You know, say what? Were you want about marketing? But he's just you know, he he's a big, man. It is what it is. He's not going to be able to bring the ball up for you. And be that guy. So to have a primary baller that can score at will. Which is what has done so far this year is nice to see. But you're right. Like, generally speaking, this is not how you want to build a team. There's a reason why takes three stars to wind up one. Pretty good player. So yeah. What is what's the term fit with Bobby Portis because I don't I mean, he's playing great. At least what I saw. But you know, he's not a small forward. You do have marketing and Carter what's the plan? Long-term? Do you think I mean, I so they didn't replace them before that deadline as we talked about last week? I think that they their plan for him is going to be to you know, I think that he you want him to be your sixth man on a good team. Okay. Gotcha. And I think that that's what they think of as that. He's been forced into starting because take kind of force fed Jabbar into that six man role. And yeah, I think that ideally he's your six or seven, man. So I mean looking at this year's crop of NBA draft picks. And obviously there's going to be a lot of college basketball to be played still but RJ Barrett. The clear in a way top choice for the bulls, given his ability to defend and handle the basketball. No question. You know? I think it's interesting because I think he's he and LeVine have some similarities, I he's obviously much better ball handler. But it would be interesting to see those two together. I would obviously love to see that. But he would be. It'd be great. It's going to be interesting because I know you like Chris done to and doom point guard in this draft though. I don't I don't take in high. I think last year was year to do that. Or who has two years really two years ago is even better. But yeah, I don't I don't see that player in this draft unless it's Barrett, and I'm not sure Barrett, obviously a point guard either like a true point guard. But he certainly seems like the best ball handler. And I, you know. When you're that bad..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Underdog
"And bay to are sponsored by driver, so special place in my heart for these guys. Absolutely. So we're gonna talk basketball today. And you know, that's something that I always upward back you. And I couldn't help ourselves. We were talking about Lonzo ball on is improved shot before we started recording. Let's start with Jimmy Butler because it seems like the Timberwolves are renewing their efforts to get this guy out of there to find the best trade, and we're hearing the reports from whoa JR. That the rockets are offering four first round picks in return for Butler as part of that deal. Yeah. It's absolutely insane. Unprecedented amount of picks. I mean on one hand, I think is great bold off. You know, attempt by the rockets, I doubt they'd be able to pick him back up. Why do you say that you think extended max hundred one hundred percent? There's no way you're giving up four first round picks. If you're this rental can they afford it? It's go into the luxury tax. Okay. All right. So okay. So they re signed him. But does this end up being hypothetically, if they were to do the four a similar situation till I didn't that Celtics deal down the line, or do you could be eight hundred percent could be from what I've seen. The offer would be a what's gonna be twenty nineteen twenty twenty one twenty twenty three and twenty twenty-five first round picks. The most you can offer in any given trade is is four first round picks, and you can't trade more than four within seven years because of the steep enroll. So that is the maximum allowed number of picks to be treated, and you're right. It's great compete this year. But Chris Paul's not young James harden that guy who knows how long that's gonna last and Jimmy Butler twenty nine. Old. This could be not only could be will be radically different team when the rockets take the floor in two thousand twenty four. So it very well could end up being something akin to what the nets did. The only question is unlike the nets can the rockets capitalize on the talent prior to that. Yeah. That's true. And the other the other thought I had with this whole situation is it's a classic, you know, situation where you've got potentially the outgoing coach in his interests versus you know, the the owner's interests. And for an owner you say four first rounders. Wow. Plus that mega draft that's coming in potentially twenty twenty one. Right. And you know, and then idea that, you know, the owner would probably be more likely to be willing to take the bullet and do this where Tibbs obviously is much more interested in a media assets or assets that could translate in the next two years. So I think it's it's really interesting. An interesting offer. Because if there are more he did put this on the table ended that isn't if by the way, but if you're like, you know, it pits the coach last GM versus the owner, and you know, they're competing interests. I just think it's fascinating deal or a fascinating offer. And I'm not sure I would take it if I'm the T wolves. But it definitely makes you think and it's a kind of creative stuff that they're all Maury in the legion of Mauri? Follow a hers. You know, would would be proud of. Yes. You would also probably have to trade Erik Gordon as part of that deal. That would be a nice little a nice little counter piece to Karl Anthony towns and Andrew Wiggins with his ability to stretch the floor play a little defense. That's not the worst trade in the world. If you're the Timberwolves because you are really just throwing darts at the dartboard. It looks like from other reports I've heard that mega draft is probably not coming as soon as we thought it was the the ability for to radically eight the current system in the one in Duns could be twenty twenty three at this point. But the..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Jump
"On today's episode, dances with t. wolves. Scancen practice guys as first reported by the athletic Jimmy Butler held a players only meeting. Now I can say I reported because Jimmy Butler just confirm that to me in a text. Athletic also seeing signs point to Butler considering staying in Minnesota. I think it was just that he feels like he's not being treated right now. So well, he, he's making the best of it. Well. Well, he's there standing Gundy. Are you surprised by either one of those things canceling practice with Jimmy players? Only meeting, no, neither one. I mean, I think you read the situation. They had an emotional day yesterday, Tom tiptoe, probably thought they needed a little bit of time off in a chance to to talk and get through this situation a little bit. I don't what the joke I made was you can't pull a Costanza on Friday and then come in Monday and act like, nothing's nothing's wrong. We're just gonna do work as usual, right? And they had a crazy practice beyond all the stuff that was the happened. The main thing is call it was humiliated, right? No, no, no, no. I'm not talking about at the moment I'm doing. I don't love that being the story line because that doesn't sound to me like, but I'm not talking about the moment. I'm talking about the aftermath regardless of what happened in a moment in the practice. The aftermath of the conversation of the last twenty four hours is Jimmy Butler went in there. He took the third string guys. He beat the first thing guys and told untold towns. Come do it to me and he couldn't do it to them. There's no way that was a good practice. He walks away after hearing all the the reactions feeling slighted really. And so I don't know. It says, oh, Demis considering stay in a minute. So I don't know if he can walk back like a standard just like nothing happens. Not considering staying in Minnesota two choices right now. He's got a little soda or donkey pay, and he's not going to choose not cowpats not, and he's not going to put off his free agency, which would happen if you did. Rankled using games all that stuff. This is everybody trying to make the situation work until the situation can change. Welcome indeed to the job. I'm Rachel Nichols alongside of me now hasn't coach. Making don't debut today. We are very, very happy with us. I'm thinking of all the different cities. You and I have worked together or near each other win, and I'm happy now to have it here in LA on this show. Thanks very much. I appreciate it and coming up, we're going to initiate van by planning our favorite game here at the jump warrior. You thinking. No one better than that. So stay tuned for that yesterday. I was out on her Simon scheduled interview, Jimmy Butler in his home of Minnesota, but I was not expecting that emotional. I practice with the wolves. Look. A lot happened there. We have an exclusive extended version of our conversation with Jimmy and their stuff in here. You haven't seen before. Take a listen. So boy, you had an eventful day. You return to practice for the first time with the wolves, and I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna read a little bit of Adrian ward analyses report on what happened there that you were loud, emotional passionate. We like to say, targeting coach, Tom sibito teammates like Karl Anthony towns, Andrew Wiggins that you told GM, Scott Layden, quote, you f ING need me. How would you describe what happened today? A lot of troops. A lot of it is true, but you gotta think I haven't played basketball and so long..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
"Nicotine is an addictive chemical donlevatar. I was at local enough for you. I was local baseball. I feel like we lost everyone in our audience for my grind, my bike, where am I go? Anyone still gots. There's nobody producing the show right now. Billy ROY, Mike, and Chris all went to go get a drink. They're all hammered by the Cleveland or bar. They're drinking one of those giant drinks that that has beers ended upside down. This is our show with stugatz on the ticket. It's the shipping container talking to on a Thursday. It's almost Friday. Yesterday was Wednesday, they before that was Tuesday. It's nine twenty. What's the weather today? A little muggy. Sounds like the Chris Cody show. Now, you know, we're just trying to blend all the world's here. If you're just joining us Jimmy Butler said words yesterday breaking news. Yeah, he's still not on the heat, but all the words, I heard him say, make me want him more here, but we got Renzo on the line. This is really exciting. Usually he just tries to infiltrate the show and call in disguise voice. But today we're actually going to allow him to speak. You know, yesterday I hung up on someone thinking was Laredo and it wasn't that. I feel like I'm sorry, person I hung up on, so you're not gonna so you're not. Sorry, come on. So you're not. Sorry about all the times you've hung up on the Renzo and you knew it was him, but you know, all right to the person who accidentally hung. All right. So Lorenzo is joining us Billy. What's your beef with Lorenzo? I don't have a beef with Lawrence o. Meena menas walking in Meena just so you get caught up on what's happened today. So we started talking about Jimmy Butler. And yeah, that's the topic of the day. We were talking about Jimmy Butler, and then they started asking me about my wedding because I tweeted yesterday the wedding flowers are expensive. Yeah, they're expensive. So then they basically all started telling me that a wedding is total waste of money and not worth let Chris said that he regrets his wedding, and Allison was telling me how it's a giant waste of money and you're married, and I'm kind of wondering what your take on that is Lorenzo's here too to. Let's talk first. I talked to Lorenzo for second, so I can plug in me needs to get on the radio. We're on the air. Now this is license, please don't conversation. No, this is hurting. Listeners. Wow. Okay. Wait, am I like is this Okeke? You're talking? All right. So my wedding take, why don't look? You can plug in your headphones so you can hear what's going on and then we can come back to you. Is this not good? You want to not do this Meena. Well, I blame you for kind of starting the show with their while she was still walking. Well, I was trying to catch up because, you know she's going to sit down and I don't want her to get caught off guard, right? This is more ramshackle excited is in in the studio because I, we're, we're coming. We are, it's blue line. We are Billy much further in the proceedings than I am. I think because my fiance and I have decided to get married, but we are still in the the very much planning stages what's up Billy. Congratulations. Thank you. I'm weddings are a complete scam while, but you have to do it because if you don't, your family will never forgive you. That's the sort of dental saga war with me. My my fiancee wants to quick and simple..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Underdog
"It'd be staying there, but he just can't stand these two guys that really it. I think the way his ego is if he could be responsible for Minnesota shipping out towns and Wiggins, and by the way, good luck trading Wiggins. Then I think he might stay. I really do. It's never gonna happen. It's purely thought exercise, of course, in that whole, that whole organizations just a cluster f apparent like teams who are calling about Jimmy Butler, don't even know who they should contact because of how screwed up the front offices. Yeah. I mean, he said in his, I mean in his interview with Rachel Nichols, I'm, you know, I did read syllabi excerpts, and he said, you know, at that towns was the most talented and Wiggins is you know the most was that most, oh, God gifted or something like that. And then then Rachel said, you know is this is respect essentially, and he, let's be honest. It's not not fix our people who aren't committed to winning. So I are. I mean, I guess that's still jobs what you're saying that contentiously Butler wants those God-given admittedly, talented players gone for more, you know, more try hard to players that may not be as is that what you're kind of implying very much and I want him to end up in Toronto so badly. I, I wanted to end up in Toronto so badly. 'cause I for Lowery. Right? I, I think they have a replacement there and van believe anyway in Lowery's very much, not happy with the raptors after they treated the Roseanne. Who is his best friend, right? I just think it would be so interesting and I can't even imagine I know about is not a hundred percent of what he was, but if your opposing player and and you're looking at this raptors team and the starting lineup is you know, vanity. We'll forget about that because the point guard position doesn't really matter defensively at this point the NBA, but Jimmy Butler Kawai Leonard Hanna, Nobie and Serge Ibaka and the starting lineup, holy. There. Amazing. There's. Yeah, I think an OB is at some point. He's just gotta figure it out and just break out so hard. But, oh, I just wanted to happen. I wanna see the dynamics between him and and Leonard too, because I do think I do think Leonard could actually benefit a little bit from playing with Butler and being held to those standards. Either be good or just absolutely horrible lie coli being, you know, in that Spurs system would take well to some of that needling, but I'm not sure how it works. It'd be interesting. The other thing about the upshot for the raptors be, hey, you know what? If they do this, they've and it doesn't work out. They get to clean their hands of both those guys, but just it's a, it's a reset button. You know, right after the clean break and they can just go right into the rebuild around Anna Novi and Benfleet and those guys and whoever else they draft. Yeah, I see what you're saying in there is there's some value I guess to it being clean, but I think that's that's the real only benefit there because nobody signing Toronto like it's just a great city, but no known gay players going to play in Toronto. No superstar. And so you here you have to build through the draft. I don't know, and I'll tell you what a team led by vanfleet and in OB and searcher Baca. They're going to be selecting high in the draft. Very true, especially with, like you said, van beliefs, offense leaves or leaves something to be desired for..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Underdog
"Welcome to the underdog episode. Number ninety. Three. I'm Chris del Joan balance. You Khanakala what's going on Chris doing well with you him in. I cannot complain a lot of really fun stuff going on with the company. A lot of fun stuff going on in sports. Starting off with the shenanigans that are Jimmy Butler and the Minnesota Timberwolves. I love this story like Jimmy Butler, man. He does not want to be heard, but he's handling it the right way. Like, I mean, he shouldn't be people, but, but. That's fair. I, I hear the, I hear the questioning in your tone, but it's not the Andrew bynum at least like went bynum was in Cleveland and he didn't wanna play for them anymore. He would just show up and he would take nothing but like three quarter court shots. He would literally shoot the ball every single time. You touched it until they told him to go home. Jimmy Butler showed up and he just tried to kick everyone's ask and bio counts. He did. That's funny in the story that came out about it after from one of the players that he wasn't even in shape, but he was still just murdering everyone he subs in. So the story is obviously he comes in late to practice. He jumps into a scrimmage with the third team, and then he and the third team just woke up on Karl Anthony towns and Andrew wagons into starters, essentially, and basically blur can be heard just yelling expletives at causing out at the not the owner, Glen Taylor and or no, the GM GM got Taylor GM and, and tips and you know, essentially towns backing him in and apparently he's like, you won't take me. You won't take many kicks it back out. It's just on real. What happened. And I mean, it was performance art and by all accounts, Rachel Nichols is up there. You know, why would she be up there? She's based in LA. I mean, yeah, it was Butler's. What should I practice or was in his pack as. But you this was going to be a show and Jimmy Butler his an expert in funding on show. Yeah, I don't do. Did you see the interview with Butler and Nichols afterwards? I miss that chills come out. Yeah, Butler was a. He was very calm talking about everything, but he's like, you know, I'm just I'm a competitive person and all of it came out at one time and speaking to the towns thing. He he said exactly what you said. He's like towns was back and people down, but I but I called him out and he's a, he's like, give it to me or something like that. And every single time he switched out onto Butler. He passed the ball every his cats not made for that, like he's not. He is so not Jimmy Butler. And it's interesting to think what if he was Jimmy Butler? Because if he had that like killer mentality and just a desire to destroy people on every single play, we're talking about a guy and no hyperbole, maybe with his town atop five center and NBA history. Oh, man. I mean he could have been an Anthony Davis. I think we saw Anthony Davis take that turn a little bit last year down. The stretch is most competitive for the first time like ever. And you know, the weirdest thing about this whole thing was just how bizarre it was like. All right. So Butler obviously wants to get traded, but he's yelling, you f ING need me at Scott late in the GM waving and like, what does that even mean? Though? Like I mean, you want to stay. Does that mean Laden should be embarrassed about the team put together? Like what? What's he trying to say? Because if he says you hit me yells back like, yeah, you're right. We're not treating you. I don't know. I found it all very bizarre. I read that as this should be my team. Like forget this other stuff. This is not Andrew Wiggins team. This is not Karl Anthony towns team. This is my team, get them. Oh, so he wants them out any walks amac to of Minnesota? I was. He does not wanna sign in Minnesota onto. I don't know that he wants to. I don't know if it's a location thing, but I, he just hates Karl Anthony towns, Andrew Wiggins. He hates them. So you think that he would? They would be three signing..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on GSMC Basketball Podcast
"So he's not back yet, but he should be back soon. They're expecting him sin. Baby come back. Are the timber wolves a playoff team this year with with or without Jimmy Butler? Yes, they are a playoff team. We both had them in my off our playoff rakings in we. I believe so. But are they in their if there's no Jimmy? Yes. I still believe they make it to the playoffs without Jimmy Butler. Thereby gone. It's hard being as the west is how like last year only three games separated what the second or the third seed from the ninth seat or whatever. It was eight in the other team was forty. Six. Yeah, it's hard for me to say that they'll make the playoffs to be honest. If they lose Jimmy Butler. I'm going to say no, just for the fact that I think that they would have to have everybody stay healthy like they would have to have a lot of things kind of bounce their way. So. I'll say no on that, but. Of course, he's gonna make their team better regardless. It's just that that relationship seems to be broken so Miami, how? How good is Miami get if they, if they trade out a bio, Josh Richardson and a protected first round pick, let's say that's not so much. You think so, especially with the other guys contract, twenty eight million dollars, what's well? If that's the case, maybe it's a different trade, because let's let's say that that that they're not attaching Jiang's contract to Jimmy Villarosa say it's Butler for out a bio, Josh Richardson and a protected first round, pick how do the heat improve their and if they do how much improved because we both have them as a playoff team in the east. They're well coached team. I mean, they have some pieces. It's hard to it's hard to say how much you'll improve the team, but do you think that they could be in the conversation with Toronto Boston in those teams? I could see a pasta that could be a possibility that could be dark horse of type nature. Do you think that they'd be better than the bucks. Possibly. I mean, it's not impossible. It's not impossible. I still think that they would be like on the outside looking in, like I would say right now, Boston Toronto and Philadelphia, and then there might be a gap and then Milwaukee, maybe Miami. Would you agree with that? Is that where the gap is or do you think the gap is actually, you know, after Boston or Toronto..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Full 48
"And so then you've got contenders who either don't need him or all ready set or don't have the pieces to trade. I feel like as much as Jimmy Butler can make most teams better. He's a really good players top fifteen player. I just don't know where the right fit is of the two teams that I keep saying, I think. And this is irrespective of trade assets respective of trade machine. I've throwing all of that stuff out the window, all the technicalities out the window because it's more fun to discuss the two places. I think I'd like to see him that I think needed. Most are the bucks who really need a wingman for. Yoenis and the pelicans who really need somebody else with Anthony Davis not to overlook your holiday, but those are teams with great young stars guys who are knocking on the door of the MVP race, but who have kind of flatlined as teams because of the inability to get that other guy. So. What am I missing? World's? Does he make sense? Or do you have a thought on where he actually lands? Yeah, the the bucks and pelicans makes sense because both these teams look, you get him. You sign him. It doesn't really hurt you because you're already, you know, tap screwed anyway with some of the decisions of made over the years. So you're not ruining flexibility which I think some teams have concerned about because at some point in Jimmy Butler is next contract, and this is probably the case from everybody size these deals, but you're probably gonna be paying for past performance because Jimmy Butler when he signs, I think it'd be thirty when he signs that five year deal guys, battled injuries in recent years. I just don't think you know year three, four and five, what are you going to get from Jimmy Butler? So you're probably paying for two, maybe three years before you're looking at that contract being like, how do we get out of this and and what can we do about have or this contract is is really albatross around the next on the walkie. Obviously they need a player like that. Make a ton of sense New Orleans Smits it's desperation time and wanted to kill maritime. I think it's on some level because you gotta start winning games to start making an impression on Anthony Davis, just which agents over LeBron's guy. I'll tell you what, though, if I'm the Knicks I make a run at them because I, I know they're singing this song and dance about we're not trained draft picks, but maybe you don't have to trade drafting because as we just mentioned Paul, George though draft pick involved the co ideal. Maybe it's a late first round, pick maybe two seconds who knows what it wants up being ultimately, when when things shake out, if you're the Knicks if you can get Jimmy Butler and you don't have to train his canter because that contracts all the maps, right. McVay keep that contract. They have matched level flexibility on down the line. You go, get you create you about all of a sudden you've got Butler. Yup. Porzingas presumably your function under Fidel. I think that increases the chance exponentially that you get a Durant or a Kyrie Irving or somebody else you can show that you got that the young unicorn potential superstar for zinc as the. Guy that at the very least is an elite number two guy. All of a sudden I think the Knicks are in business. So if I'm going to work, it doesn't cost me more than like frightened kina. And then something else, you know, I would go and make a apply for him. I would feel a lot better about that play. If I knew that porzingas was going to definitely be Porzingis again, but you know, there's there's, I don't know the seven, seven foot three guy with the surgery. These coming back from it scares me a little bit, and I think if you're Jimmy Butler or anybody else you star who wants to hitch to the next wagon, I think that might give you a little bit of pause worried about or thinking that. I mean, I feel like that's one of those injuries that like everybody comes back. Yes, except for Derrick rose. Let me with like his knee has been shredded like over and over again. This is the first five ranches. Granted, I, what scares me is that porzingas moved like no other seven, three guy we've ever seen and that that probably created arguably created the circumstances for that ACL to buckle in the first place..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Woj Pod
"Yeah, I think when you talk about taking risks, the risk of losing Leonard, it was you got a chance to get a top three player in the league and you got him. There's risk a little bit. There was risk with the health. Is he going to be healthy? Is he going to want to be here for years? You got to be motivated and so far early on in Toronto. Koi has made a great impression. He is coming very determined to play while the sheer to help the team win, and obviously he'll figure out free agency as he goes. I understand that risk Coa Leonard is you know, he's an MVP level player in the NBA. Jimmy Butler is an outstanding player, but he's. Level below that, and he's older. And I think the question too is this isn't breaking up in Minnesota because he doesn't like Tom tiptoe. He's always had a good relationship with Tibbett. Oh, now it's strained as this process plays out and he doesn't get the trade and you'll see become probably more at odds. I think that's starting to happen. But the fact is he credits Tom thibodeau a great deal with his development of player. Last pick of the first round out of Marquette, who went to Portsmouth and the pre-draft process was fighting to just be a first round pick and becomes an all star max player in Chicago, and the fact that if you're another team and you're saying he's walking away from Tibbs, he's walking away from this team. Could he do that to us after seven months? And I think that factors into your thinking too, about what you give up for him? One hundred percent, right? I mean, he that extension that. Minnesota offered him would be available six months after your quired him, and he's not going to accept, you know, four years, one hundred million dollars. He is certainly renegotiate renegotiate his contract. But as Minnesota learned this summer, when you're over the cap, you can't go about doing it and it would take gutting, you're going your roster to do it. And you know what I've learned is that when you go out and make these type of trades, you're always chasing that trade and you're trying to acquire other pieces to make that player happy. And you're really, you're really hurting your roster to do. So. I mean, I mean the the Darren Williams trade back in two thousand eleven in the year later to follow up with Jerry Wallis because you're trying to convince Williams to stay or your trading multiple draft picks because you're trying to convince that player to stay in free agency. And I think that's where. That's where the situation in Toronto with Colli that Masais got a good comfort level with that roster there with Kyle Lowry surge Bach, and some of the younger players Dhillon. Right. And then Lee Valance Eunice that he doesn't have to go out there and go out and get it Jimmy Butler PO. Possibly that he says, I can go to, you know, I can go to battle with these guys that when fifty nine games with Colli Leonard. And that's a lot different than maybe the team like Brooklyn who acquires Butler and then says, what other pieces can I go out and get to try to piece his player to make us competitive? And I think that's really where teams really get themselves in trouble..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Woj Pod
"I look at Brooklyn which Sean has been able to do in really grow at from from the bottom in now, are you willing to kind of jump the shark here and get a Jimmy Butler if that may be? Does that get you another player? Possibly. It's a lot of money you're going to have to invest in in with Butler. One hundred ninety million possibly on a new contract for player who minutes. Consistently ranks in the top ten. He's averaged thirty seven minutes the last five or six years here. My concern is that what happens if Jimmy Butler does not like it there for the remaining six or seven months there? Because yes, you can have a handshake agreement there with the agent and the player there, but there's nothing binding. So now you are you recruiting him for you know that six or seven, six or seven months, and there's no sure shot that you're, he's another player is going to come. So now you are, if you're Brooklyn, he's your face your franchise. You have a lot of money invested in now you're possibly a playoff team, you know, in that maybe that back in at six to eight range, but that's, that's who you're you're married to with the clippers. You know, you'd have to probably got some of that young players draft. They've, you know, they've gone away. They had gone away from the velopment. Now they have some really nice young players that taking go out and develop and one or two, those guys would probably have to go. I think it would be interesting because some of those other players, Tobias Harris, the Avery Bradley's you know, guys like Lou Williams, possibly. There's a possibility that if the clippers are going to go get to max players next year, those those to those players won't be there anyway. So I think if you're looking at it from their perspectives that what our mindset isn't, I think. Maybe you become a little bit more aggressive, but it all goes back to, hey, we have the cap space to go out and get this player. This player really wants to come to Los Angeles or Brooklyn. We can fit him in with room in really do much to our roster and draft picks to keep on building this thing..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Woj Pod
"Day window, or can you get it done that fast that the deals are. Going to be the same now than than they would be two months from now or a month from our weeks from now? Well, I think it's extremely rare to get a deal done and it feels like it's been three months and that a week since the Jimmy Butler. And just just circling back, you know, with with the kids situation back in. Two thousand seven. You know, Jason, you know, did not show for game citing migraine was a home gaming. It's New York, and that was in early December and he wasn't traded until the deadline in February. So that's three months, three months later. And that's how long it took to try to get the right deal. And eventually we got that with Dallas. You know, on the other end, having been part of the Carmelo Anthony process in two thousand ten little similar to to Jimmy Butler, but not as public Anthony showed up at training camp. You had a new general manager with Masai. That was the last weekend in September in that didn't happen in the trade didn't happen until MIO mid February. So I would you look at Minnesota where they are right now, you're, you're not gonna get the return back that you traded for him back in June of seventeen with. The rights to lower market in Zach, lean and Chris done. You have an owner who is been pretty up front as far as trying to get something done. Relatively soon here, you have teams that have started training camp, you know a week ago and you also have teams that the landscape in a league is changed so much that we're going into into a summer were half the teams that are going to cap space and are not willing to give up significant assets to go out in trade form where they can possibly sign them as a free agent. And I think if you're if you're Minnesota, you're trying to create a, you know, almost like a bidding war between teams that are over the cap coming into next summer, the Miami's of the world, Houston and try to get into a bidding war and I, you know, we, we don't see that happening right now. You know, the next thing we'll have will happen is of Butler. There is no deal to be made in, you know, when. A couple of days. And then what happens with Jimmy Butler in Minnesota's for showing up. And that's another issue of like, tap typical wants him to show up. He wants him to play. He wants to try to win with the group they have now. I think it will be a challenge to bring Jimmy Butler back into that locker room. There's a lot of animosity between he and their young star players, but I still think Tom thibodeau feels even with the dysfunction. The fact that they all don't really like each other don't like playing together, and there were a lot of things said in the off season and even in the lead up after the trade request. I still think Tom typical thinks his best chance of getting to the playoffs that he can still get to the postseason with these guys. And if he's let go at the end, the season, then he at least can say for his next job, I got Minnesota. The playoffs twice in a row after they missed for thirteen straight years. And I think he feels if they make a trade, they're not gonna get value..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Jump
"Of the greatest NFL linebackers of all time only to have his life end in a tragedy that would rock the leak. And I would argue still reverberates today start your subscription is and plus retrial. You can watch those all right time to play the music. I wanna make the spy ring right back people. We know Jimmy Butler preferred list of teams to be traded to the nets Nixon clippers with the clippers being his ideal destinations, we'd be happy with that sentence lose the team porcine in extension with. So the theory is the incentive for the wolves to trade in there as they get more back for him. What about a team? Not on this list, Jackie. Do you think anybody else we were just talking about Philadelphia. Do you think anybody else. Start to make. Oh, so we we were talking off camera about the three teams, the nets, the Knicks and the clippers and the packages they may put together. I find them all to be incredibly underwhelming. I'm right. We were just talking about shea Gill. Alexander everybody says it's going to be a flat out star and how the clippers probably wouldn't want to include him right. Something like that. So if I'm another team, I'm gonna throw my junk. I don't wanna say junk. I'm going to put on my stuff out. I'm gonna throw. I'm gonna make on many levels Jackie. Go ahead. You know, I'm gonna make my offer. It's not going to be the best offer, but at least you know, I'm in the ballpark and and if you if you don't answer my call, why am I any worse for the wear Toronto, not on Kawhi Leonard preferred list, and of course Oklahoma City on, I'm Paul George's preferred list. So there's precedent for this. Worked out for one of those teams TVD Toronto. I think there will be a team, you know, it could be a team that's so good that they think we're going to be a sixty one team right away, and that'll be enough. It could be a team like the heat who is desperate in an celery cap. Hell in always has faith up. If we get a guy here in south beach, in our culture, we can sway him or could be a team with a big salary. This look, even if this guy's pretty good worse in trapped in such salary jail. If we if we've moved the salary for Jimmy and Jimmy leaves and we get off that salary, it's still like a net neutral. Miami is a really, really good. We know how Jimmy Butler nd Wayne Wade are. I mean, even after they parted made in part ways, but even after they were in Chicago, they still spend time trav-. Together in the summer plus think about their culture. They worked their tails off. It's all about defense and body fat, and they had the hardly the best owner in the NBA in Mickey. Yeah. So Jimmy would be where he confessed rated with some of the players in the locker room. The presumption is that he would be all in on the team culture. Although look Tom would argue that he has been trying to set that same team culture with the wolves doing the body fat thing though. Just wondering because you know the heat, do that still do do just crazy. Write a whole book someday on all the ways guys tried to beat the body fat index, right? The mood. They also do the ipad thing. Yeah. They all have stories, have stories. Publicly on television. Jackie MacMullan is one of my favorite humans on earth. We can move on just all the. Let's go team. Let's go to a team basketball. Why do they always do that? Why. That is Jimmy Butler list Knicks and I'm media day with a lot more of those pictures. The teams has been adamant about not trading graphics or young players upcoming free agents Dino's even after the Jimmy Butler news broke reiterated it to day. This is fresh quote. We feel comfortable with our organization where we're going, what we're developing here..
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Jump
"Tomorrow, three eastern new Pacific that jumped will be live in Philadelphia as training camps officially opened. Our guest will be joylin bead and Ben Simmons and good thing headed to Philip because they just hired a new general manager. Steven Jackson, that promo, he's going to be live on air with us tomorrow too. So you know, you're gonna want to check that out. Let's talk about brands brand spoke today about his goals for the seventy Sixers. This season. Take a listen. Goes to develop this young court. Joe wells first time in the playoffs. There was bins first time in the playoffs. We talk about adding the third superstar. We have that third superstar in this room right now and Ford like we have that much talent. They're young, but we have that much talent. So just development and getting farther than we do. Zack. You heard brand talk about the talent, the Sixers, have, how much pressure is there on him in this new role? The next eighteen months are big for them. He's talking about if they're going to get that third star that third big salary before Ben Simmons gets presumably amac's. It starts to get mechanically a little harder. Although the do have trade assets like Miami's pick. It starts to get mechanically little harder just like sly Jimmy Butler slide in there. So it's it's restarting literally. Now Jimmy Butler. It gets interesting, but do you think the pressure is really on Elton Bryant brand in that regard? So I think Elton brand very well respected throughout the league player, and I think now is the front office guy, but I think you know, Brett Brown was in this role for this interim amount of time. We know that Josh Harris is super hands on owner. So to me, this is more of a consortium. It's going to make these decisions. So I think Elton gets to walk in here, and I don't think there's a ton of pressure on him by the way. I think that's excellent. That's an excellent way to bring him into the finance. I think he's going to be a really good GM everybody, those interesting position because they have that salary slot. There's been so much attention on like, oh, why didn't they get a big name player this past summer? Who are they gonna. Next summer on most teams, if you had someone like Joel Embiid, who was a bit of a once in a lifetime player, Ben Simmons who people are saying, he's the next LeBron James, and by the way, Marco Fulton was also the number one pick from us year and we can discuss in a minute how that may or may not turn out. You wouldn't sit there and say, oh, this is a team that really needs a big star, but that is sort of the guy that's been cast for Philadelphia in some ways. I'm, I'm understood that I, I really like Sarah till. On the one hand, you're right because everyone branded this summer like a failure in a big failure and they didn't even get elites walked away from them. There's no failure right now would you have? It was very is failure when these two guys, however, to if you want to win a championship, if a third guy is is not always a prerequisite, but really helps. And you only have so many chances to get one. And so I understand why people are like, you know why? Not if we can why not. I mean, it's really speaks to the pressure of Danny Ainge in the Boston Celtics that little bars about him. How much pressure is there? An brand pressures come in from Boston, right?.
"jimmy butler" Discussed on The Jump
"I was gonna say, well, really? You think it's going to be pretty pretty interesting. They're pretty uncomfortable. You got to deal with the media got the d. with your teammate that you just called out on social media. You gotta deal with the coach and GM who you've now sort of embarrassed. Right? Absolutely. First of all, I should tell the people that we had to explain his act before the show would catch you and traffic means what that's again. Why don't you just ask the question? I wanna to make sure. Graphic show traffic him. But the fact is one of the Jackie's young, but he's all that's what I love about him. Thank you. This is like an old guard. Yeah, he is. But the fact that it did escalate like this. I mean, it does seem, you know what? It tells you. It tells you how close to the surface all this stuff. What you remember before we were saying, well, we we know that we think that Wiggins Jimmy Butler, but we've never seen evidence we think are the absolute. Is your evidence just to. A month ago. So now you understand how close all this was. So you guys know better than anyone how the mechanics of it works. When the one of these trades is being put together, first of all, you're never gonna get value back for. Right. Never gonna get a Jimmy Butler level. Otherwise are used to that right? Kevin prince there. So that's one problem doing it under the gun when there's some threat of doing it before Monday seems it'll happen. But again, it's not in theory. When you say, gee, these guys have to now being a locker room together. What? What do you expect the timing to be? Well, I'm sure Jimmy Butler and his people would like it done before Monday. I don't know about the Glenn Taylor would. I'm not sure. Maybe Glenn Taylor thinks he can fix this somehow, and I'm not sure. I'm sure that Andrew Wiggins would certainly like it to be done before Monday now. So that's, but that's what's today. I've lost her as day Thursday. That's I understand. If you're going to gauge a whole bunch of teams, we know what Jimmy's list is, but you know, perhaps you want to engage other teams just in case those other teams have a lot of work to do themselves. You know, I, I don't know that any of them are. I mean, if you gave them the choice, do we sign him in free agency for four and one forty? Or do we trade for and then sign them to five? One ninety four one forty paid that extra year scares them. By the way. Part of the reason the Jimmy reportedly asked for this trade wasn't just I don't like maybe some of the other players in locker room. It was. He wants that five year as opposed to winning till he's a free agent where he can only get four years and I believe it's fifty less million dollars. Okay. But so now you're a team that's thinking about acquiring him and Jimmy Butler is a great player. Don't get me wrong, but you need the other player if you're going to contend if the three teams on that list..