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"jethro moses" Discussed on Judaism Unbound

Judaism Unbound

07:40 min | 2 months ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on Judaism Unbound

"It's our like and to me. That feels like only the beginning like once you once. You've broken that it has to be movies. Who's to say. It has to be visual like why can't so like we could have books. You'd be funny to sort of. It's not that it's backwards but to go from film into books and those also be in the marvel cinematic universe like Although i guess to start with comics so it's circular. Whatever it is. I i'm excited by that. And i think that the storytelling maneuvering that we can do in different modes just is only strengthens the whole project. So i don't think what we're calling for is like let's tear down the the written modality. It's let's let's embrace every different form of storytelling. We can have every different experience. That can contribute to this and have a more full more beautiful cannon for lack of a better term. I'm not totally sold on whether it even is a cannon or what what we're desiring cans but at the very least a ocana a new set of shared stuff and the version of that proto can set of stuff that's going to be most compelling. I think just as you know. These marvel folks determined is going to be one that straddles different modes that includes that original written stuff. The oral stuff and then also as you just. Beautifully described the experiential torah. the suara. The torah of our intuitions and in order to to contribute that tour we have to all sorts of grant ourselves collective permission. And that's a big step. We have to once again so this before but we have to say this over and over we have to be agents. We have to be players on the field of torah making. Not just you know mid rash making interpretation making. We have to be the ones ourselves that can do this. And look people may feel that that some level of anarchy but my question is what are the dangers of the converse of having so many limits so many bounds that we actually can't move forward at all those limitations to those negative factors of what happens when we are so afraid of anarchy outweigh the negative factors when we embrace something that could veer in that direction. Yeah i mean this question about anarchy is is an an important one i mean. Look there's some people and sometimes when you say oh anarchy. It's fine you know i'm not necessarily here to bash anarchy in our time when there's authority the police the interpretation of the text. There's not there's also not a thority to police the acceptance of the text so instead what you just have. People offer their ideas interpretations or new texts and whether it becomes part of the canon is based on whether the people come to accept it. It makes me think of a story that i probably told before on the podcast where i was running an organization and jewish with our staff and i was reading the story of jethro moses's law and he comes in. He gives him advice about how to manage the people but before that he Basically talks to moses and moses tells them it's really been hard since we left egypt and jeff throws like. Wait a second you were. You were released from slavery and now you're free like what an amazing story wouldn't amazing god and he throws a big party for all the elders and i said that my take on that is that jeff throw is giving moses leadership advice there as well and he's saying to moses. You're a real downer of a leader and you can't be a good leader when you're an emotional downer you have to get the people's emotions up and so one of my staff member says to me. Wow that's really interesting interpretation. Like what commentator. Did you get that from you. Know i just read it. And that's what i thought and she said you can do that. And my response was kind of like well. I mean i don't know. I just did you know who's out there to stop me. You know like. I just did like that's how it works. And so there's a way to be reverend toward a text and to say you know we really care about this tax. it's important we don't. I don't want to dismiss those earlier. Manifestations of our saviour you know our moral intuition or the oral tradition that got into writing earlier we should have some degree of reverence towards them. Because they've been around a long time and they're part of our story. They've been part of our story as written texts for a long time but having reverence for them on that level doesn't have to mean that we can't also have reverence for those new texts and those new interpretations are even more than interpretations like new ratings that essentially flow out of the same source that original tax flowed from. Which was you can call it. God you could call it our vira but it comes. It comes from the same source and therefore to be revered any less. It's a weird connection. And i'm hesitant like if folks have pushed back on this from whatever angles. Please send it. Because i'm not fully convinced of this but i'm thinking you use the word like we have to stop policing and i'm thinking about contemporary discussions about policing and a lot of us are part of the call for defunding the police and there's the whole discourse about that right and there's people who say like what do you mean def- on the police like we have to have people in society that are in roles who are officially meant to provide for our safety now first off. Our police actually doing. That is the question. I don't think they are for huge constituencies and i would argue similarly. I don't actually think that the contemporary place of judaism that are sacred texts which we are policing the meaning of our like actually protecting all of us. I don't think that. I think they're protecting some over others consciously sometimes unconsciously other times and we should question at now. I also think that in the de-fund police conversations defending the police isn't just about not police. I mean that's part of it but it's also about you take that money and you channel it into resources into support systems for local communities and that's so important and that's positive proactive work. That's not just like anti work. And that's what i believe. We are saying about how we use like. It's not that we want people to just say up. Everything we got was bad. We it's gone. We want to channel. The resources that have been been put into policing interpretations. Is this the right thing if you allow for this. Is that a slippery slope. are we then have energy. We want to put those resources into like. Let's have a million amazing towards like the red tent and like the book of v and like the experiences of human beings today. Let's actually realized that we have a responsibility to do that work. And it's not that everything's a zero sum game but like if you're spending all your time being cautious about interpretations good enough in which aren't like it's just a reality that that our collective jewish body of people is not going to spend as much time on that proactive work. So that feels important. I i like the reverend's word you use to in like one other thing that it made me think of is like a good test of reverence for something reverence for torres. Girls say like. I believe even many of our listeners. Even me honestly. If i were to say to them on simply torah when we take out the torres and parade around the room you know we unscrew the thing. What if we took our markers and road our own takes in the margins. I think even many of our listeners who are.

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"jethro moses" Discussed on Judaism Unbound

Judaism Unbound

08:19 min | 3 months ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on Judaism Unbound

"Often there are that every single person is here because this torah matters to them and every person is bringing their own set of experiences that matter for torah it is. What is going to make arturo beautiful together whether you feel really comfortable what you said just because it's in your guts or whether you feel that it's good because you know that romblom rashi to torah commentators from the eleventh and thirteenth centuries are also saying bringing both of those an makes it beautiful and makes it rich. It reminds me of a story that i probably told before in the podcast but five years in i can retail certain stories but at at one point many many years ago i was running an organization and our staff with study tour together and we were studying this particular story about jethro moses's father in law and when he visited moses. He gives us famous advice about how to organize the people into a kind of parameter leadership structure. But they're part before it where jethro comes and moses tells them what had happened to them how they got out of egypt and it's been really hard since then and jethro gathers all the elders together and sacrifices and animal. I think and says you know. Your guide is the greatest of god's and they basically have a meal together and i said know well. I think what's happening here. Is that says throwing a party. And what he saying to moses implicitly. Is you're a bad leader. Because you're a real downer and you can't be a downer there and be a leader and you have to get the people's emotions up before you do anything else. And so he's having a big party and you're kinda get that because i'm kind of introverted and i'm not necessarily the best at doing that kind of thing so that actually feels to me like really valuable leadership advice as much as the more intuitive. You should organize the people into groups. I mean that's not that complicated but the idea that you throw a big party. That might be something that you have to learn as a leader. If it doesn't come naturally to you so members turns to me and says which commentator did you get that from. And i said well no i was reading it and i'm having this experience because i'm a relatively new leader in the organization and i'm kinda seeing that that one thing that i'm not doing well here is throwing parties by the way is still not very good at that and then spoke to me you know. And she says You can do that. And i said well i guess so. I mean it's gonna stop me but it was interesting that it never really occurred to me or or i had gotten past the point where it would have occurred to me that that there's any question like you can do it. Can you do that. I mean i do whatever. I want but she who was from a much more traditional experience in jewish education. It was a lesson to learn. It was something to realize because you've been educated that if a monitor serve you know someone else didn't say it then it can't be valuable and so i'm curious how to understand more about your experience. You talked about how you try to give people the sense that whatever comes out of anybody in the partnership is a valuable piece but i know that people have such obstacles to believe that. How do you actually go about the process of making them. Believe it so one of the things that i do at the beginning when i give everybody the info they need to be in herethe is i. Show them a graphic of a triangle. That i got from elliot Kent called the philosophy of coverage and it's called the you know the hover to triangle. And it's the three responsibilities that you have covered tub moment in a partner learning space. One responsibilities to yourself one is to your partner and one is to text and that i think is the key that a lot of people are saying is that the text is a partner in your conversation. What that means is you're reading the text carefully and you're letting it have its own voice in the conversation which means when you like what it says. You are digging into that word to that sentence and when you don't like what it says you were also making it speak for itself and when you're really focused on what the text is saying if you can say what you're saying and then go yes. This word right here is what made me think of. It doesn't matter if it's the first time i've ever seen that word doesn't matter if you know what that hebrew word is. It matters that that word spoke to you. And you know that what you're saying is based in text. it's also based in your heart. But it is based on the taxed and i think that process for somebody who is very experienced in learning in a much more traditional way where commentators are ruling how they interpret and somebody who's never looked at tora before both of those people are going to relieve of themselves that they had to be correct because the tech said it. You saw the tax said it. I mean this is a weird connection. But i'm remembering early in my relationship with my spouse. My favorite torah portion happens to be the story of blom block and she at this point relationships. She didn't know that story. Which i think is very logical like it's sort of this weird commercial break in the midst of the book of numbers. It's like it doesn't sort of take the story forward. it's dislike a funny interlude. Although i'm sure people could be about that but i did a like an exercise where i i worked really hard to hide my own bias and i asked her like okay. We're going to do. We're going to look at the story together. And i'm curious on a scale from one to ten with one being like evil and ten being a saint. Like how would you valujet. Like what value judgment would you put on. The character below traditionally all those commentators and lots of jewish takes whatever and whatever have a very negative approach to the of to the point that when they read the initial story in my view they they see the story through a colored lenses and they see this character in a negative way because they sort decided to beforehand my argument and and it turned out she gave like. I don't know what it was like. An eight or nine like he comes off pretty well if you're not looking at those commentators if you're just looking at the text and and it was important for me to see that because it showed me just how much of a twist the commentators often bring to the stories and that's not necessarily bad. There's lots of torah stories. That i actively want to twist and that i actively want to change the message of but people don't always realize how on a basic level like we take for granted esau is like a bad guy in the book of genesis and jacob is a good guy like read those stories without any glasses on and i think either one of those characters can be seen as good and either one could be seen as pretty evil. So why why is it so important in your group action. My take why that's important in your group to stick with that because obviously somebody listening to this. Could be like but wait lex. You talk about finding connections in jewish texts to like pop culture to other things like why would you. Why would you sort of restrict yourself. It happens to the best of us to get totally stuck in commentators and by the best of us. I mean every incredible. Rabbi that we've been learning from for the last few thousand years but it is definitely put me at like butting heads with some of my coverage in the past to say i'm going to question the commentators and what that means is when you find in the text something beautiful like your sure that ballum is the number one dude and all of torah. If someone came into class and said the way. I just read. Beloved favorita is that he is the number one dude that i have read about in torah. I love him. I want to be like him. I would happily put in front of them. A piece of commentary that said the exact opposite not to say boom. That's the answer your rod but to say great. This is how other people have read it going back to the text. Can you make their point or do you still feel like you can hold your point and where do you think they got it from and coming back to the text really allows you to be in that exact conversation that the commentators were having and it's also about the understanding and i say this very often in my classes. There is no final answer in torah. Every time we come to the text were reading it a little differently..

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"jethro moses" Discussed on Pray the Word with David Platt

Pray the Word with David Platt

04:43 min | 8 months ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on Pray the Word with David Platt

", Chapter Eighteen versus twenty, , one, , twenty, , three. . Moreover, , look for able men from all the people men who fear God who are trustworthy in Haiti bribe. . And play such men over the people as chiefs of thousands of hundreds of fifties and tens. . And let them judge the people at all times. . Every great matter they shall bring to you but any small matter they shall decide themselves. . So it will be easier for you and they will bear the burden with you. . If you do this God will direct you. . You will be able to endure, , and all this people also will go to their place in peace. . So these verses describe very early on in the Bible, how , God set up. . A structure for justice to be carried out among his people for people to be judged and all these different cases that were all coming to Moses, , and through JETHRO. . Moses's father in law. . We see these instructions to appoint many different leaders as chiefs over thousands, hundreds, , , fifties, , and tins to judge the people and their qualifications. . Scott said look for able men from all the people who fear God. . And who are trustworthy and hate a bribe. . What a what a picture out of all the things that could have been listed right there. . Look for leaders who fear God. . And who are trust worthy? ? And hate a bribe who are not gonNA put. . Their advantage over someone else being judged rightly. . Not, , GONNA seek selfish gain in that way, , and if you do this God says, , you will be directed by me. . You'll be able to endure. . This is for Moses good as leader have other leaders, , and all those people also will go to their place and peace. . <hes>. . Don't. We . want that we want justice and he's To be, , evident. . In. . Whatever country we live in? ? So we pray. . God, , we we know that this was a unique picture in the Old Testament as you set up. . This structure among your people but as we read this today, , particularly as followers of Jesus in the United States. . As well as other countries but. . The United States were going to this election God weep pray. . Ask for leaders. . Who Fear You. . Re Ask for leaders who are trustworthy. . Who Don't seek selfish gain. . God, we , ask for that Jerry we ask for this for our current leaders. . And Our future leaders. . God we we pray for leaders who are in positions of power and influence right now who know you? ? Who've trusted in you? ? And your salvation who are walking with you gotTa repay that you would shrink them and help them to lead. . The fear of you. . Help them to continue to be trustworthy in a way that reflects the character of Christ not to seek selfish gain. . God We, pray , for other leaders who don't know you right now who are not walking with you if not placed their faith in Jesus who are not followers of Jesus God, , we pray that you would bring them to fear you. . He are reprinted by your grace. . They would be trustworthy leaders that they would not seek selfish gain but seek the good of others in good according to you. . Good according to your word in your character in your wisdom. . Not according to our foolishness according to what is right in our own is God. . We pray for leaders like this and for Justice and peace that flows from leadership like this we is for this country God, , save us from ourselves, , save us from leaders who don't fear you God save us from leaders who are not trustworthy and who do seek selfish gain, , God we pray for good leaders in our country. . According to this picture of goodness that we see in exodus chapter eighteen. . In Jesus name we pray. . Amen. .

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Justice Ordained by God (Exodus 18:2123)

Pray the Word with David Platt

04:43 min | 8 months ago

Justice Ordained by God (Exodus 18:2123)

"Chapter Eighteen versus twenty, one, twenty, three. Moreover, look for able men from all the people men who fear God who are trustworthy in Haiti bribe. And play such men over the people as chiefs of thousands of hundreds of fifties and tens. And let them judge the people at all times. Every great matter they shall bring to you but any small matter they shall decide themselves. So it will be easier for you and they will bear the burden with you. If you do this God will direct you. You will be able to endure, and all this people also will go to their place in peace. So these verses describe very early on in the Bible, how God set up. A structure for justice to be carried out among his people for people to be judged and all these different cases that were all coming to Moses, and through JETHRO. Moses's father in law. We see these instructions to appoint many different leaders as chiefs over thousands, hundreds, fifties, and tins to judge the people and their qualifications. Scott said look for able men from all the people who fear God. And who are trustworthy and hate a bribe. What a what a picture out of all the things that could have been listed right there. Look for leaders who fear God. And who are trust worthy? And hate a bribe who are not gonNA put. Their advantage over someone else being judged rightly. Not, GONNA seek selfish gain in that way, and if you do this God says, you will be directed by me. You'll be able to endure. This is for Moses good as leader have other leaders, and all those people also will go to their place and peace. Don't. We want that we want justice and he's To be, evident. In. Whatever country we live in? So we pray. God, we we know that this was a unique picture in the Old Testament as you set up. This structure among your people but as we read this today, particularly as followers of Jesus in the United States. As well as other countries but. The United States were going to this election God weep pray. Ask for leaders. Who Fear You. Re Ask for leaders who are trustworthy. Who Don't seek selfish gain. God, we ask for that Jerry we ask for this for our current leaders. And Our future leaders. God we we pray for leaders who are in positions of power and influence right now who know you? Who've trusted in you? And your salvation who are walking with you gotTa repay that you would shrink them and help them to lead. The fear of you. Help them to continue to be trustworthy in a way that reflects the character of Christ not to seek selfish gain. God We, pray for other leaders who don't know you right now who are not walking with you if not placed their faith in Jesus who are not followers of Jesus God, we pray that you would bring them to fear you. He are reprinted by your grace. They would be trustworthy leaders that they would not seek selfish gain but seek the good of others in good according to you. Good according to your word in your character in your wisdom. Not according to our foolishness according to what is right in our own is God. We pray for leaders like this and for Justice and peace that flows from leadership like this we is for this country God, save us from ourselves, save us from leaders who don't fear you God save us from leaders who are not trustworthy and who do seek selfish gain, God we pray for good leaders in our country. According to this picture of goodness that we see in exodus chapter eighteen. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.

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"jethro moses" Discussed on Pray the Word with David Platt

Pray the Word with David Platt

04:41 min | 8 months ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on Pray the Word with David Platt

"Versus twenty, one, twenty, three. Moreover, look for able men from all the people men who fear God who are trustworthy in Haiti bribe. And play such men over the people as chiefs of thousands of hundreds of fifties and tens. And let them judge the people at all times. Every great matter they shall bring to you but any small matter they shall decide themselves. So it will be easier for you and they will bear the burden with you. If you do this God will direct you. You will be able to endure, and all this people also will go to their place in peace. So these verses describe very early on in the Bible, how God set up. A structure for justice to be carried out among his people for people to be judged and all these different cases that were all coming to Moses, and through JETHRO. Moses's father in law. We see these instructions to appoint many different leaders as chiefs over thousands, hundreds, fifties, and tins to judge the people and their qualifications. Scott said look for able men from all the people who fear God. And who are trustworthy and hate a bribe. What a what a picture out of all the things that could have been listed right there. Look for leaders who fear God. And who are trust worthy? And hate a bribe who are not gonNA put. Their advantage over someone else being judged rightly. Not, GONNA seek selfish gain in that way, and if you do this God says, you will be directed by me. You'll be able to endure. This is for Moses good as leader have other leaders, and all those people also will go to their place and peace. Don't. We want that we want justice and he's To be, evident. In. Whatever country we live in? So we pray. God, we we know that this was a unique picture in the Old Testament as you set up. This structure among your people but as we read this today, particularly as followers of Jesus in the United States. As well as other countries but. The United States were going to this election God weep pray. Ask for leaders. Who Fear You. Re Ask for leaders who are trustworthy. Who Don't seek selfish gain. God, we ask for that Jerry we ask for this for our current leaders. And Our future leaders. God we we pray for leaders who are in positions of power and influence right now who know you? Who've trusted in you? And your salvation who are walking with you gotTa repay that you would shrink them and help them to lead. The fear of you. Help them to continue to be trustworthy in a way that reflects the character of Christ not to seek selfish gain. God We, pray for other leaders who don't know you right now who are not walking with you if not placed their faith in Jesus who are not followers of Jesus God, we pray that you would bring them to fear you. He are reprinted by your grace. They would be trustworthy leaders that they would not seek selfish gain but seek the good of others in good according to you. Good according to your word in your character in your wisdom. Not according to our foolishness according to what is right in our own is God. We pray for leaders like this and for Justice and peace that flows from leadership like this we is for this country God, save us from ourselves, save us from leaders who don't fear you God save us from leaders who are not trustworthy and who do seek selfish gain, God we pray for good leaders in our country. According to this picture of goodness that we see in exodus chapter eighteen. In Jesus name we pray..

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"jethro moses" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

11:42 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"The second grade you feel like you're the most important person in the universe and my dad came and it wasn't just my dad it was my dad with his video camera now in those days dad didn't take videos with their phones they don't even Kerry phones they took videos with shoulder mounted equipment and a little I piece that functions like a periscope so in walks my dad with his vintage RC a camcorder mounted on his shoulder and the second graders are going out of their mind it was like a one man video crew for a history channel documentary and he came to visit me and if you watch that documentary if you went to my parents attic and pulled the the VHS tape out of the box and have some way to play it you would see that I was standing a little taller that day if you ever had someone come visit you at your school no means some poor substitute I mean somebody special to you somebody who who means something to you how does that make you feel that person they don't even have to do anything they didn't even have to say anything all they had to do was just be there with their gravitas and they dignified you they dignified the moment images set up a little straighter stand a little taller and that's how Moses felt that day that day when he heard that his father in law Jethro was coming to visit the cap now Moses remember he's the guy that got appointed to bring the children of Israel out of slavery in Egypt and we first get introduced to his father in law Jethro back in exodus chapter two Moses killed a man and was on the run from Egypt away from pharaoh when he comes to stay in the household of this pagan priest named Jethro Jethro and his seven daughters and Moses was content to stay in Jethro's household any time Jethro he gives his daughter Zipporah Moses in marriage and they start a family flash forward forty years hand Moses has spent the last several months leading this people out of Egypt he is led them through the wilderness and they've gone long stretches without food and water and they were ready to kill him at one point and then there was this battle army of Amalek comes to attack them and they got to fight for their lives and Josh was down there leading the battle and Moses is up on the mountain and he's got the staff of god in his hands and he's raising up his arms and whenever he keeps his arms up the people of Israel they're winning and whenever they start to droop they're losing and Moses arms are getting tired and Aaron his brother comes with their side kicker and they're holding up Moses arms all day and into the night in Israel wins and they come into the camp at the mountain of god in the wilderness and Moses is exhausted but he's he's psyched up as a second grader because his father in law Jethro it's common to visit listen to how it goes in exodus chapter eighteen then Jethro the priest of Midian Moses father in law he heard all that god had done for Moses and for his people Israel and how the lord had brought Israel out of Egypt now Jethro Moses father in law had received Zipporah Moses wife after Moses and sent her on the head with her two sons one of the sons was named Gershom which means soldier honor Moses had said I have become a soldier honor in a strange land and the other son was named Eleazar are which means god is my help for Moses had said my fathers god has become my helper he saved me from the sort of pharaoh so Jethro came together with Moses two sons and his wife and they met Moses in the wilderness where he and camped near the mountain of god Jethro sent word ahead to Moses saying hi your father in law Jethro come in to meet you together with your wife and her two sons and Moses met Jethro and he bowed down to the ground and he kissed him and the two men each of them asked about each other's well being and they went into the tent and Moses declared to his father in law all that the lord had done to pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel sake and about all the hardships they had met along the way and how the lord and save them Sheth ro de lighted to hear all the good things that the lord had done for Israel and how he had saved them from the hand of the Egyptians and Jethro declared blessed be the lord who has saved you from the hand of pharaoh when from the hand of the Egyptians and they save the people from the hand of the Egyptians now I know all that the lord is greater than all other gods because he did this to those who treated Israel arrogantly and Jethro Moses father in law brought a burnt offering and other sacrifices to god and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel and they ate bread with Moses father in law in the presence of god in the presence of god and it happened the next day Moses went out and took his seat the service judge as leader for the people and they stood around Moses all day from morning till evening and when his father lost salt Moses was doing for the people he said to him what is it you're doing why do you along the city stretch and all these people they stand around you from morning till evening Moses answered him because the people come to me the C. guard whenever they have a concern that is brought to me and I decide between one person and another and make known to them god's decrees and instructions what you're doing is not good you and all these people who come to you you only wear yourselves out the work is too heavy for you cannot bear it a long now listen to me and I will advise you win god be with you you must be for the people before god and you bring their concerns to god and teach them the decrees and the instructions and show them how they are to live in the duties they are to perform and shoes capable man man who fear god trustworthy men who hate dishonest gain and appoint them as leaders over thousands hundreds fifty cent hands and let them serve as judges for the people at all times San have them bring the great matters to you in the lesser concerns they can decide for themselves now that a lighten your load because they share it with you you do this and god will direct you you will be able to win do our and all these people they will go to their place in peace and Moses listened he did everything his father in law told him to do he pointed leaders for the people officials over thousands hundreds fifties in Tenzin and they served as judges for the people at all times and the great concerns they brought to Moses in the lesser concerns they decided for themselves and Moses sent his father in law on his way and Jethro returned to his own land imagine your father or your father in law comes to your work can you spend the whole day showing him all the important things that you do and the first thing he says to you is this is no good let me give you some advice how did you react and you got to put yourself in Moses sandals he's no spring chicken he's eighty years old he spent the first forty years of his life being educated and trained in the court of pharaoh king of Egypt and then he spent the next forty years of his life getting hands on wilderness survival training as a shepherd in for the last few months he's been the appointed agent of god to topple the most powerful empire in the world and then to lead a group of complaining people through the wilderness through battles with limited supplies of food and water that's quite a track record and yet Moses responds to criticism graciously he's open to the idea that maybe the way he's doing things right now isn't the best way to do on there's this character portrait of Moses captured in the book of numbers chapter twelve verse three it says now Moses was a very humble man more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth few years ago I heard a man named Jerry Shamil speak Jerry then the play by play announcer for the Denver Nuggets and later for the Colorado.

"jethro moses" Discussed on WRKO AM680

WRKO AM680

09:51 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on WRKO AM680

"That god had done for Moses and for his people Israel and how the lord had brought Israel out of Egypt now Jethro Moses father in law had received Zipporah Moses wife after Moses and sent her on the head with her two sons one of the sons was named Gershom which means Sojourner Moses had said you become a soldier honor in a strange land and the other son was named Ellie a czar which means god is my help for Moses had said my fathers god has become my helper he saved me from the sort of pharaoh so Jethro came together with Moses two sons and his wife and they met Moses in the wilderness where he and camped near the mountain of god Jethro sent word ahead to Moses saying I your father in law just rolled him coming to meet you together with your wife and her two sons and Moses met Jethro and he bow down to the ground and he kissed him and the two men each of them asked about each other's well being and they went into the tent and Moses declared to his father in law all that the lord had done to pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel sake and about all the hardships they had met along the way and how the lord had saved them ro de lighted to hear all the good things that the lord had done for Israel and how he had saved them from the hand of the Egyptians and Jethro declared blessed be the lord who has saved you from the hand of pharaoh when from the hand of the Egyptians and is save the people from the hand of the Egyptians now I know all that the lord is greater than all other gods because you did this to those who treated Israel arrogantly and Jethro Moses father in law brought a burnt offering and other sacrifices to god and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel and they ate bread with Moses father in law in the presence of god in the presence of god and it happened the next day Moses went out and took his seat the service judge as leader for the people and they stood around Moses all day from morning till evening and when his father lost all Moses was doing for the people he said to him what is your doing why do you along the city's judge and all these people they stand around you from morning till evening Moses answered him because the people come to me to seek god whenever they have a concern that is brought to me and I decide between one person and another and make known to them god's decrees and instructions Jethro said to him what you're doing is not good you and all these people who come to you you only wear yourselves out the work is too heavy for you cannot bear it a long now listen to me and I will advise you win god be with you you must be for the people before god and you bring their concerns to god and teach them the decrees send the instructions and show them how they are to live in the duties they are to perform and shoes capable man men who fear god trustworthy man who hate dishonest gain and appoint them as leaders over thousands hundreds fifty cent hands and let them serve as judges for the people at all times San have them bring the great matters to you in the lesser concerns they can decide for themselves now that a lighten your load because they share it with you you do this and god will direct you you will be able to endorse and all these people they will go to their place in peace and Moses listened he did everything his father in law told him to do he pointed leaders for the people officials over thousands hundreds fifties in Hanson and they served as judges for the people at all times and the great concerns they brought to Moses in the lesser concerns they decided for themselves and Moses sent his father in law on his way and Jethro returned to his own land imagine your father or your father in law comes to your work can you spend the whole day showing him all the important things that you do and the first thing he says to you is this is no good let me give you some advice how did you react and you got to put yourself in Moses sandals he's no spring chicken he's eighty years old he spent the first forty years of his life being educated and trained in the court of pharaoh king of Egypt and then he spent the next forty years of his life getting hands on wilderness survival training as a shepherd in for the last few months he's been the appointed agent of god to topple the most powerful empire in the world and then to lead a group of complaining people through the wilderness through battles with limited supplies of food and water that's quite a track record and yet my hope is this response to criticism graciously he's open to the idea that maybe the way he's doing things right now isn't the best way to dorm there's this character portrait of Moses captured in the book of numbers chapter twelve verse three it says now Moses was a very humble man more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth few years ago I heard a man named Jerry Shamil speak Jerry then the play by play announcer for the Denver Nuggets and later for the Colorado Rockies when I heard him speak the main thing you talked about was a defining moment in his life Jerry had survived a plane crash July nineteenth nineteen eighty nine flight to thirty two crash landed killing one hundred and twelve passengers but Jerry survived he wrote about he told the story in a book titled chosen to live and Jerry talked to us at night about how he believed god had chosen him to live and not just survive a plane crash but to truly live to live through god and for god and in the presence of god in Jerry's up there talking and he is radiating this humble purpose for gratitude thank god had saved him not just to survive but to truly live Jerry talked like a man who's been in the presence of god you and I were made for that the live in the presence of god when you look around this world and you see problems you look in your heart and you see more problems the Bible tells the story of how this came to be and it makes the claim that the source of all our problems is that humankind has turned away from the presence of god for some poor substitute and when you do this it does bad things to you it corrupts you and so to save us from this hell god shows up Q. your people to be present with people.

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"jethro moses" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

KLBJ 590AM

08:31 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

"And my dad came and it wasn't just my dad it was my dad with his video camera now in those days dad didn't take videos with their phones they don't even carry on they took videos with shoulder mounted equipment and a little I piece that functions like a periscope so in walks my dad with his vintage RC a camcorder mounted on his shoulder and the second graders are going out of their mind it was like a one man video crew for a history channel documentary and he came to visit me and if you watch that documentary if you went to my parents attic and pulled the the VHS tape out of the box and had some way to play it you would see that I was standing a little taller that day if you ever had someone come visit you at your school no means some poor substitute I mean somebody special to you somebody who who means something to you how did that make you feel that person they didn't even have to do anything they didn't even have to say anything all they had to do was just be there with their gravitas and they dignified you they dignified the moment images set up a little straighter stand a little taller and that's how Moses felt that day that day when he heard that his father in law Jethro was coming to visit the camp now Moses remember he's the guy that got appointed to bring the children of Israel out of slavery in Egypt and we first get introduced to his father in law Jethro back in exodus chapter two Moses killed a man and was on the run from Egypt away from pharaoh when he comes to stay in the household of this pagan priest named Jethro Jethro and his seven daughters and Moses was content to stay in Jeff gross household and in time Jethro he gives his daughter Zipporah Moses in marriage and they start a family flash forward forty years hand hostess has spent the last several months reading this people out of Egypt he is led them through the wilderness and they've gone long stretches without food and water and they were ready to kill him at one point and then there was this battle the army of Amalek comes to attack them and they got to fight for their lives and Josh was down there leading the battle and Moses is up on the mountain and he's got the staff of god in his hands and he's raising up his arms and whenever he keeps his arms up the people of Israel they're winning and whenever they start to droop they're losing and Moses arms are getting tired and Aaron his brother comes with their side kicker and they're holding up Moses arms all day and into the night in Israel wins and they come into the camp at the mountain of god in the wilderness and Moses is exhausted well here's his site dumpers a second grader because his father in law Jethro it's coming to visit listen to how it goes in exodus chapter eighteen in Jethro the priest of Midian Moses father in law he heard all that god had done for Moses and for his people Israel and how the lord had brought Israel out of Egypt now Jethro Moses father in law had received Zipporah Moses wife after Moses sent her on the head with her two sons one of the sons was named Gershom which means soldier honor Moses had said I have become a soldier honor in a strange land and the other son was named Eleazar are which means god is my help for Moses had said my fathers god has become my helper he saved me from the sort of feral so Jethro came together with Moses two sons and his wife and they met Moses in the wilderness where he and camped near the mountain of god Jethro sent word ahead to Moses saying hi your father in law Jethro him coming to meet you together with your wife and her two sons mosis met Jethro and he bow down to the ground and he kissed him and the two men each of them asked about each other's well being and they went into the tent and Moses declared to his father in law all that the lord had done to pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel sake and about all the hardships they had met along the way and how the lord and save them chaff ro de lighted to hear all the good things that the lord had done for Israel and how he had saved them from the hand of the Egyptians and Jethro declared blessed be the lord who has saved you from the hand of pharaoh when from the hand of the Egyptians and is save the people from the hand of the Egyptians now I know all that the lord is greater than all other gods because he did this to those who treated Israel arrogantly and Jethro Moses father in law brought a burnt offering and other sacrifices to god and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel and they ate bread with Moses father in law in the presence of god presence of god and it happened the next day Moses went out and took his seat the service judge as leader for the people and they stood around Moses all day from morning till evening and when his father lost salt Moses was doing for the people he said to him what is this you are doing why do you along the city stretch and all these people they stand around you from morning till evening Moses answered him because the people come to me is C. guard whenever they have a concern that is brought to me and I decide between one person and another and make known to them god's decrees and instructions Jethro said to him what you're doing is not good you and all these people who come to you you only wear yourselves out the work is too heavy for you I cannot bear it a long now listen to me and I will advise you when god be with you must be for the people before god and you bring their concerns to god and teach them the decrees send the instructions and show them how they are to live in the duties they are to perform and shoes capable man.

"jethro moses" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

11:39 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"The second grade you feel like you were the most important person in the universe and my dad came and it wasn't just my dad it was my dad with his video camera now in those days dads didn't take videos with their phones they don't even carry phones they took videos with shoulder mounted equipment and a little I piece that functions like a periscope so in walks my dad with his vintage RC a camcorder mounted on his shoulder and the second graders are going out of their mind it was like a one man video crew for a history channel documentary and he came to visit me and if you watch that documentary if you went to my parents attic and pulled the the VHS tape out of the box and had some way to play it you would see that I was standing a little taller that day if you ever had someone come visit you at your school and I don't mean some poor substitute I mean somebody special to you somebody who who means something to you how does that make you feel that person they don't even have to do anything they didn't even have to say anything all they had to do was just be there with their gravitas and they dignified you they dignified the moment made you sit up a little straighter Dan a little taller and that's how Moses felt that day that day when he heard that his father in law Jethro was coming to visit the camp now Moses remember he's the guy that got appointed to bring the children of Israel out of slavery in Egypt and we first get introduced to his father in law Jethro back in exodus chapter two Moses killed a man and was on the run from Egypt away from pharaoh when he comes to stay in the household of this pagan priest named Jethro Jethro and his seven daughters and Moses was content to stay in Jethro's household any time Jethro he gives his daughter Zipporah Moses in marriage and they start a family flash forward forty years hand hostess has spent the last several months reading this people out of Egypt he is led them through the wilderness and they've gone long stretches without food and water and they were ready to kill him at one point and then there was this battle army of Amalek comes to attack them and they got to fight for their lives and Josh was down there leading the battle and Moses is up on the mountain and he's got the staff of god in his hands and he's raising up his arms and whenever he keeps his arms up the people of Israel they're winning and whenever they start to droop they're losing and Moses arms are getting tired and Aaron his brother comes with their side kicker and they're holding up Moses arms all day and into the night in Israel wins and they come into the camp at the mountain of god in the wilderness and Moses is exhausted what he is he's psyched up as a second grader because his father in law Jethro is coming to visit listen to how it goes in exodus chapter eighteen then Jethro the priest of Midian Moses father in law he heard all that god had done for Moses and for his people Israel and how the lord had brought Israel out of Egypt now just roll Moses father in law had received Zipporah Moses wife after Moses and sent her on the head with her two sons one of the sons was named Gershom which means Sojourner Moses had said I have become a soldier honor in a strange land and the other son was named Eleazar are which means god is my help for Moses had said my fathers god has become my helper he saved me from the sort of pharaoh so Jethro came together with Moses two sons and his wife and they met Moses in the wilderness where he and camped near the mountain of god Jethro sent word ahead to Moses saying I your father in law just rolled him coming to meet you together with your wife and her two sons and Moses met Jethro and he bowed down to the ground and he kissed him and the two men each of them asked about each other's well being and they went into the tent and Moses declared to his father in law all that the lord had done to pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel sake and about all the hardships they had met along the way and how the lord had saved them ro de lighted here all the good things that the lord had done for Israel and how he had saved them from the hand of the Egyptians and Jethro declared blessed be the lord who has saved you from the hand of pharaoh when from the hand of the Egyptians and they save the people from the hand of the Egyptians now I know all that the lord is greater than all other gods because you did this to those who treated Israel arrogantly and Jethro Moses father in law brought a burnt offering and other sacrifices to god and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel and they ate bread with Moses father in law in the presence of god in the presence of god and it happened the next day Moses went out and took his seat the service judge as leader for the people and they stood around Moses all day from morning till evening and when his father lost salt Moses was doing for the people he said to him what is this is your daughter why do you along the city's judge and all these people they stand around you from morning till evening Moses answered him because the people come to me to seek god whenever they have a concern that is brought to me and I decide between one person and another and make known to them god's decrees Jethro said to him what you're doing is not good you and all these people who come to you you only wear yourselves out the work is too heavy for you cannot bear it a long now listen to me and I will advise you win god be with you you must be for the people before god and you bring their concerns to god and teach them the decrees send the instructions and show them how they are to live in the duties they are to perform and shoes capable man men who fear god trustworthy man who hate dishonest gain an appoint them as leaders over thousands hundreds fifty cent tents and let them serve as judges for the people at all times San have them bring the great matters to you in the lesser concerns they can decide for themselves now that a lighten your load because they share it with you you do this and god will direct you you will be able to endorse and all these people they will go to their place in peace and Moses listened he did everything his father in law told him to do he pointed leaders for the people officials over thousands hundreds fifties in tension and they served as judges for the people at all times and the great concerns they brought to Moses in the lesser concerns they decided for themselves and Moses sent his father in law on his way and Jethro returned to his own land imagine your father or your father in law comes to your work can you spend the whole day showing him all the important things that you do and the first thing he says to you is this is no good let me give you some advice how did you react and you got to put yourself in Moses sandals he's no spring chicken he's eighty years old he spent the first forty years of his life being educated and trained in the court of pharaoh king of Egypt and then he spent the next forty years of his life getting hands on wilderness survival training as a shepherd in for the last few months he's been the appointed agent of god to topple the most powerful empire in the world and then to lead a group of complaining people through the wilderness through battles with limited supplies of food and water that's quite a track record and yet my hope is this response to criticism graciously he's open to the idea that maybe the way he's doing things right now isn't the best way to dorm there's this character portrait of Moses captured in the book of numbers chapter twelve verse three it says now Moses was a very humble man more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth few years ago I heard a man named Jerry Shamil speak Jerry then the play by play announcer for the Denver Nuggets and later for the Colorado.

"jethro moses" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

AM 970 The Answer

15:11 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

"All that god had done for Moses and for his people Israel and how the lord had brought Israel out of Egypt now Jethro Moses father in law had received Zipporah Moses wife after Moses and sent her on the head with her two sons one of the sons was named Gershom which means Sojourner Moses had said I have become a soldier honor in a strange land and the other son was named Eleazar are which means god is my help for Moses had said my fathers god has become my helper he saved me from the sort of pharaoh so Jethro came together with Moses two sons and his wife and they met Moses in the wilderness where he and camped near the mountain of god Jethro sent word ahead to Moses saying I your father in law Jethro him coming to meet you together with your wife and her two sons and Moses met Jethro and he bowed down to the ground and he kissed him and the two men each of them asked about each other's well being and they went into the tent and Moses declared to his father in law all that the lord had done to pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel sake and about all the hardships they had met along the way and how the lord had saved them ro de lighted here all the good things that the lord had done for Israel and how he had saved them from the hand of the Egyptians and Jethro declared blessed be the lord who has saved you from the hand of pharaoh when from the hand of the Egyptians and they save the people from the hand of the Egyptians now I know all that the lord is greater than all other gods because he did this to those who treated Israel arrogantly and Jethro Moses father in law brought a burnt offering and other sacrifices to god and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel and they ate bread with Moses father in law in the presence of god in the presence of god it happened the next day Moses went out and took his seat the service judge as leader for the people and they stood around Moses all day from morning till evening and when his father lost salt Moses was doing for the people he said to him what is your doing why do you alone cities judge and all these people they stand around you from morning till evening Moses answered him because the people come to me to seek god whenever they have a concern that is brought to me and I decide between one person and another and make known to them god's decrees and instructions Jethro said to him what you're doing is not good you and all these people who come to you you only wear yourselves out the work is too heavy for you cannot bear it a long now listen to me and I will advise you win god be with you you must be for the people before god and you bring their concerns to god and teach them the decrees send the instructions and show them how they are to live in the duties they are to perform and shoes capable man man who fear god rust worthy man who hate dishonest gain and appoint them as leaders over thousands hundreds fifty cent tents and let them serve as judges for the people that all the time San have them bring the great matters to you in the lesser concerns they can decide for themselves now that a lighten your load because they share it with you you do this and god will direct you you will be able to win do our and all these people they will go to their place in peace and Moses listened he did everything his father in law told him to do he pointed leaders for the people officials over thousands hundreds fifties in Hanson and they served as judges for the people at all times and the great concerns they brought to Moses in the lesser concerns they decided for themselves and Moses sent his father in law on his way and Jethro returned to his own land imagine your father or your father in law comes to your work can you spend the whole day showing him all the important things that you do and the first thing he says to you is this is no good let me give you some advice how did you react and you got to put yourself in Moses sandals he's no spring chicken he's eighty years old he spent the first forty years of his life being educated and trained in the court of pharaoh king of Egypt and then he spent the next forty years of his life getting hands on wilderness survival training as a shepherd in for the last few months he's been the appointed agent of god to topple the most powerful empire in the world and then to lead a group of complaining people through the wilderness through battles with limited supplies of food and water that's quite a track record and yet was this response to criticism graciously he's open to the idea that maybe the way he's doing things right now isn't the best way to do on there's this character portrait of Moses captured in the book of numbers chapter twelve verse three it says now Moses was a very humble man more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth few years ago I heard a man named Jerry Shamil speak Jerry then the play by play announcer for the Denver Nuggets and later for the Colorado Rockies when I heard him speak the main thing you talked about was a defining moment in his life Jerry had survived a plane crash July nineteenth nineteen eighty nine flight to thirty two crash landed killing one hundred and twelve passengers but Jerry survived he wrote about he told the story in a book titled chosen to live and Jerry talked to is that night about how he believed god had chosen him to live and not just survive a plane crash but to truly live to live through god and for god and in the presence of god in Jerry's up there talking and he is radiating this humble purpose for gratitude god had saved him not just to survive but to truly live Jerry talked like a man who's been in the presence of god you and I were made for that the live in the presence of god you look around this world and you see problems you look in your heart and you see more problems the Bible tells the story of how this came to be and it makes the claim that the source of all our problems is that humankind has turned away from the presence of god for some poor substitute and when you do this it does bad things to you it corrupts you and so to save us from this hell god shows up Q. your people to be present with the people of Israel but Israel as it turned out like the rest of us and they kept looking for substitutes for the living god and even when god himself came the word of god the presence of god the son of god Jesus when he came they look for a substitute and then it was the most religious the most powerful among them that wanted something else wanted someone else in and Jesus kept insisting that for him there was no substitute he is the way the truth and the life and because he kept insisting on this they had him crucified and even those who were following him and trusted in him when he was dead they went back the looking for substitutes and then god raised Jesus from the dead and when he did so he opened up the way for for you for your old self you're corrupted self your worst self to die in him so that a new self your best self could come to life in him in his presence and the way to this life is called baptism into the death and resurrection of Jesus the power of this life is the spirit of the risen Jesus walks of this life is called faith in the people that you walk with that's called the church what is this life look like it looks like Moses in exodus chapter eighteen you live in the presence of god and it'll change you he will change you god changed Moses people can see it here radiate head S. or a no you've been around somebody like that somebody who just radiates this aura of peace a person of presence when I was in the military I I work for an officer who could bring peace simply by being there she had this or I should give off these vibes of home and confidence and when she was there in the room we were like yeah we can do this we got this and that's the kind of person Moses was he gave off these vibes of a man who's been in the presence of god and people wanted to be around him thank god does not want to limit his presence to just one person besides a merely human person I cannot handle that kind of pressure mosis even Moses would crack under the pressure and many prophets and priests and kings of Israel cracked under the pressure of it it wasn't until god himself came Jesus true god and true man and he does not limit god's presence he shares it and because of him you can turn away from your substitutes and come into his presence and he will pour the spirit of the living god into you and then you and I we will be able to say with the apostle Paul we have this treasure in earth in vessels so that we might show that this surpassing powers not from us but from god and and you'll be able to say with Paul I have been crucified with Christ I don't longer live but Christ lives in me the life I live now in the body I live by faith in the son of god who loved me and who gave himself for me and then you will bring people into the presence of the living god simply by being there because Jesus has come to be your substitute he lives in you and you make me want to stand up a little taller would you pray with me how lord this is the one who comes into your presence blessed are those whose strength is in you they go from strength to strength as they appear before you and so hear our prayer be our son and our shield that we might walk up rightly through Jesus Christ your son our lord who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit.

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"jethro moses" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

14:52 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"The universe and my dad came and it wasn't just my dad it was my dad with his video camera now in those days dads didn't take videos with their phones they don't even Kerry phones they took videos with shoulder mounted equipment and a little I piece that functions like a periscope so in walks my dad with his vintage RC a camcorder mounted on his shoulder and the second graders are going out of their mind he was like a one man video crew for a history channel documentary and he came to visit me and if you watched that documentary if you went to my parents attic and pulled the the VHS tape out of the box and had some way to play it you would see that I was standing a little taller that day if you ever had someone come visit you at your school I don't mean some poor substitute I mean somebody special to you somebody who who means something to you how does that make you feel that person they didn't even have to do anything they didn't even have to say anything all they had to do was just be there with their gravitas and they dignified you they dignified the moment made you sit up a little straighter stand a little taller and that's how Moses felt that day that day when he heard that his father in law Jethro was coming to visit the camp now Moses remember he's the guy that got appointed to bring the children of Israel out of slavery in Egypt and we first get introduced to his father in law Jethro back in exodus chapter two Moses killed a man and was on the run from Egypt away from pharaoh when he comes to stay in the household of this pagan priest named Jethro Jethro and his seven daughters and Moses was content to stay in Jethro's household any time Jethro he gives his daughter Zipporah Moses in marriage and they start a family flash forward forty years and the hostess has spent the last several months reading this people out of Egypt he is led them through the wilderness and they've gone long stretches without food and water and they were ready to kill him at one point and then there was this battle army of Amalek comes to attack them and they got to fight for their lives and Josh was down there leading the battle and Moses is up on the mountain and he's got the staff of god in his hands and he's raising up his arms and whenever he keeps his arms up the people of Israel they're winning and whenever they start to droop they're losing and Moses arms are getting tired and Aaron his brother comes with their side kicker and they're holding up Moses arms all day and into the night in Israel wins and they come into the camp at the mountain of god in the wilderness and Moses is exhausted but he is he's psyched up as a second grader because his father in law Jethro is coming to visit listen to how it goes in exodus chapter eighteen then Jethro the priest of Midian Moses father in law he heard all that god had done for Moses and for his people Israel and how the lord had brought Israel out of Egypt now Jethro Moses father in law had received Zipporah Moses wife after Moses sent her on the head with her two sons one of the sons was named Gershom which means soldier honor Moses had said I have become a soldier honor in a strange land and the other son was named Eleazar are which means god is my help from Moses had said my fathers god has become my helper he saved me from the sort of feral so Jethro came together with Moses two sons and his wife and they met Moses in the wilderness where he and camped near the mountain of god Jethro sent word ahead to Moses saying hi your father in law Jethro him coming to meet you together with your wife and her two sons Smet Jethro and he bowed down to the ground and he kissed him and the two men each of them asked about each other's well being and they went into the tent and Moses declared to his father in law all that the lord had done to pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel sake and about all the hardships they had met along the way and how the lord had saved them throw D. lighted here all the good things that the lord had done for Israel and how he had saved them from the hand of the Egyptians and Jethro declared blessed be the lord who has saved you from the hand of pharaoh when from the hand of the Egyptians and they save the people from the hand of the Egyptians now I know all that the lord is greater than all gods because he did this to those who treated Israel arrogantly and Jethro Moses father in law brought a burnt offering and other sacrifices to god and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel and they ate bread with Moses father in law in the presence of god in the presence of god and it happened the next day Moses went out and took his seat the service judge as leader for the people and they stood around Moses all day from morning till evening and when his father lost all Moses was doing for the people he said to him what is your doing why do you alone cities judge and all these people they stand around you from morning till evening Moses answered him because the people come to me to seek god whenever they have a concern that is brought to me and I decide between one person and another and make known to them god's decrees and instructions Jethro said to him what you are doing is not good you and all these people who come to you you only wear yourselves out the work is too heavy for you you cannot bear it along now listen to me and I will advise you win god be with you you must be for the people before god and you bring their concerns to god and teach them the decrees send the instructions and show them how they are to live in the duties they are to perform and shoes capable man men who fear god Austin were the men who hate dishonest gain an appoint them as leaders over thousands hundreds fifty cent tens and let them serve as judges for the people at all times and have them bring the great matters to you in the lesser concerns they can decide for themselves now that a lighten your load because they share it with you you do this and god will direct you you will be able to endorse and all these people they will go to their place in peace and Moses listened he did everything his father in law told him to do he pointed leaders for the people officials over thousands hundreds fifties in Hanson and they served as judges for the people at all times and the great concerns they brought to Moses in the lesser concerns they decided for themselves and Moses sent his father in law on his way and Jethro returned to his own land imagine your father or your father in law comes to your work can you spend the whole day showing him all the important things that you do and the first thing he says to you is this is no good let me give you some advice how did you react and you got to put yourself in Moses sandals he's no spring chicken he's eighty years old he spent the first forty years of his life being educated and trained in the court of pharaoh king of Egypt and then he spent the next forty years of his life getting hands on wilderness survival training as a shepherd in for the last few months he's been the appointed agent of god to topple the most powerful empire in the world and then to lead a group of complaining people through the wilderness through battles with limited supplies of food and water that's quite a track record and yet my hope is this response to criticism graciously he's open to the idea that maybe the way he's doing things right now isn't the best way to dorm there's this character portrait of Moses captured in the book of numbers chapter twelve verse three it says now Moses was a very humble man more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth few years ago I heard a man named Jerry Shamil speak Jerry then the play by play announcer for the Denver Nuggets and later for the Colorado Rockies when I heard him speak the main thing you talked about was a defining moment in his life Jerry had survived a plane crash July nineteenth nineteen eighty nine flight to thirty two crash landed lane one hundred and twelve passengers but Jerry survived he wrote about he told the story in a book titled chosen to live and Jerry talked to us at night about how he believed god had chosen him to live and not just survive a plane crash but to truly live to live through god and for god and in the presence of god in Jerry's up there talking and he is radiating this humble purpose for gratitude god had saved him not just to survive but to truly live Jerry talked like a man who's been in the presence of god you and I were made for that to live in the presence of god when you look around this world and you see problems when you look in your heart and you see more problems the Bible tells the story of how this came to be and it makes the claim that the source of all our problems is that humankind has turned away from the presence of god for some poor substitute and when you do this it does bad things to you it corrupts you and so to save us from this hell god shows up Q. your people to be present with the people of Israel but Israel as it turned out like the rest of us and they kept looking for substitutes for the living god and even when god himself came the word of god the presence of god the son of god Jesus when he came they look for a substitute and and it was the most religious the most powerful among them that wanted something else wanted someone else in and Jesus kept insisting that that for him there was no substitute he is the way the truth and the life and because he kept insisting on this they had him crucified and even those who were following him and trusted in him when he was dead they went back the looking for substitutes and then god raised Jesus from the dead and when he did so he opened up the way for for you for your old self you're corrupted self your worst self to die in.

"jethro moses" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

10:18 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on WGN Radio

"The second grade you feel like you were the most important person in the universe and my dad came and it wasn't just my dad it was my dad with his video camera now in those days dads didn't take videos with their phones they didn't even Kerry phones they took videos with shoulder mounted equipment and a little I piece that functions like a periscope so in walks my dad with his vintage RC a camcorder mounted on his shoulder and the second graders are going out of their mind he was like a one man video crew for a history channel documentary and he came to visit me and if you watch that documentary if you went into my parents attic and pulled the the VHS tape out of the box and had some way to play it you would see that I was standing a little taller that day if you ever had someone come visit you at your school no means some poor substitute I mean somebody special to you somebody who who means something to you how did that make you feel that person they didn't even have to do anything they didn't even have to say anything all they had to do was just be there with their gravitas and they dignified you they dignified the moment made you sit up a little straighter Dan a little taller and that's how Moses felt that day that day when he heard that his father in law Jethro was coming to visit the camp now Moses remember he's the guy that got appointed to bring the children of Israel out of slavery in Egypt and we first get introduced to his father in law Jethro back in exodus chapter two Moses killed a man and was on the run from Egypt away from pharaoh when he comes to stay in the household of this pagan priest named Jethro Jethro and his seven daughters and Moses was content to stay in Jethro's household any time Jethro he gives his daughter Zipporah Moses in marriage and they start a family flash forward forty years hand hostess has spent the last several months reading this people out of Egypt he is led them through the wilderness and they've gone long stretches without food and water and they were ready to kill him at one point and then there was this battle the army of Amalek comes to attack them and they got to fight for their lives and Josh was down there leading the battle and Moses is up on the mountain and he's got the staff of god in his hands and he's raising up his arms and whenever he keeps his arms up the people of Israel they're winning and whenever they start to droop they're losing and Moses arms are getting tired and Aaron his brother comes with their side kicker and they're holding up Moses arms all day and into the night in Israel wins and they come into the camp at the mountain of god in the wilderness and Moses is exhausted well he's he's psyched up as a second grader because his father in law she throw is coming to visit listen to how it goes in exodus chapter eighteen then Jethro the priest of Midian Moses father in law he heard all that god had done for Moses and for his people Israel and how the lord had brought Israel out of Egypt now just throw Moses father in law had received Zipporah Moses wife after Moses sent her on the head with her two sons one of the sons was named Gershom which means Sojourner Moses had said I have become a soldier honor in a strange land and the other son was named Eleazar are which means god is my help for Moses had said my fathers god has become my helper he saved me from the sort of feral so Jethro came together with Moses two sons and his wife and they met Moses in the wilderness where he and camped near the mountain of god Jethro sent word ahead to Moses saying hi your father in law Jethro him coming to meet you together with your wife and her two sons and Moses met Jethro and he bow down to the ground and he kissed him and the two men each of them asked about each other's well being and they went into the tent and Moses declared to his father in law all that the lord had done to pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel sake and about all the hardships they had met along the way and how the lord had saved them ro de lighted here all the good things that the lord had done for Israel and how he had saved them from the hand of the Egyptians and Jethro declared blessed be the lord who has saved you from the hand of pharaoh when from the hand of the Egyptians and they save the people from the hand of the Egyptians now I know all that the lord is greater than all other gods because he did this to those who treated Israel arrogantly and Jethro Moses father in law brought a burnt offering and other sacrifices to god and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel and they ate bread with Moses father in law in the presence of god in the presence of god and it happened the next day Moses went out and took his seat the service judge as leader for the people and they stood around Moses all day from morning till evening and when his father lost salt Moses was doing for the people he said to him what is your doing why do you alone cities judge and all these people they stand around you from morning till evening Moses answered him because the people come to me to see guard whenever they have a concern that is brought to me and I decide between one person and another and make known to them god's decrees and instructions Jethro said to him what you're doing is not good you and all these people who come to you you only wear yourselves out the work is too heavy for you cannot bear it a long now listen to me and I will advise you win god be with you you must be for the people before god and you bring their concerns to god and teach them the decrees send the instructions and show them how they are to live in the duties they are to perform choose capable man men who fear god trustworthy men who hate dishonest gain an appoint them as leaders over thousands hundreds fifty cent tens and let them serve as judges for the people that all the time San have them bring the great matters to you in the lesser concerns they can decide for themselves now that'll lighten your load because they share it with you you do this and god will direct you you will be able to endorse and all these people they will go to their place in peace and Moses listened he did everything his father in law told him to do he pointed leaders for the people officials over thousands hundreds fifties in tension and they served as judges for the people at all times and the great concerns they brought to Moses in the lesser concerns they decided for themselves and Moses sent his father in law on his way and Jethro returned to his own land imagine your father or your father in law comes to your work can you spend the whole day showing him all the important things that you do and the first thing he says to you is.

"jethro moses" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

10:01 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"The second grade you feel like you were the most important person in the universe and my dad came and it wasn't just my dad it was my dad with his video camera now in those days dad didn't take videos with their phones they don't even Kerry phones they took videos with shoulder mounted equipment and a little I piece that functions like a periscope so in walks my dad with his vintage RC a camcorder mounted on his shoulder and the second graders are going out of their mind it was like a one man video crew for a history channel documentary and he came to visit me and if you watch that documentary if you went into my parents attic and pulled the the VHS tape out of the box and had some way to play it you would see that I was standing a little taller that day if you ever had someone come visit you at your school and I don't mean some poor substitute I mean somebody special to you somebody who who means something to you how does that make you feel that person they didn't even have to do anything they didn't even have to say anything all they had to do was just be there with their gravitas and they dignified you they dignified the moment made you sit up a little straighter Dan a little taller and that's how Moses felt that day that day when he heard that his father in law Jethro was coming to visit the camp now Moses remember he's the guy that got appointed to bring the children of Israel out of slavery in Egypt and we first get introduced to his father in law Jethro back in exodus chapter two Moses killed a man and was on the run from Egypt away from pharaoh when he comes to stay in the household of this pagan priest named Jethro Jethro and his seven daughters and Moses was content to stay in Jethro's household any time Jethro he gives his daughter Zipporah Moses in marriage and they start a family flash forward forty years hand my hostess has spent the last several months reading this people out of Egypt he is led them through the wilderness and they've gone long stretches without food and water and they were ready to kill him at one point and then there was this battle army of Amalek comes to attack them and they got to fight for their lives and Josh was down there leading the battle and Moses is up on the mountain and he's got the staff of god in his hands and he's raising up his arms and whatever he keeps his arms up the people of Israel they're winning and whenever they start to droop they're losing and Moses arms are getting tired and Aaron his brother comes with their side kicker and they're holding up Moses arms all day and into the night in Israel wins and they come into the camp with the mountain of god in the wilderness and Moses is exhausted what he is he's psyched up as a second grader because his father in law Jethro is coming to visit listen to how it goes in exodus chapter eighteen then Jethro the priest of Midian Moses father in law he heard all that god had done for Moses and for his people Israel and how the lord had brought Israel out of Egypt now Jethro Moses father in law had received Zipporah Moses wife after Moses sent her on the head with her two sons one of the sons was named Gershom which means Sojourner Moses had said you become a soldier honor in a strange land and the other son was named Eleazar are which means god is my help for Moses had said my fathers god has become my helper he saved me from the sort of pharaoh so Jethro came together with Moses two sons and his wife and they met Moses in the wilderness where he and camped near the mountain of god Jethro sent word ahead to Moses saying I your father in law just rolled him coming to meet you together with your wife and her two sons and Moses met Jethro and he bow down to the ground and he kissed him and the two men each of them asked about each other's well being and they went into the tent and Moses declared to his father in law all that the lord had done to pharaoh and to the Egyptians for Israel sake and about all the hardships they had met along the way and how the lord had saved them ro de lighted here all the good things that the lord had done for Israel and how he had saved them from the hand of the Egyptians and Jethro declared blessed be the lord who has saved you from the hand of pharaoh when from the hand of the Egyptians and is save the people from the hand of the Egyptians now I know all that the lord is greater than all other gods because he did this to those who treated Israel arrogantly and Jethro Moses father in law brought a burnt offering and other sacrifices to god and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel and they ate bread with Moses father in law in the presence of god in the presence of god it happened the next day Moses went out and took his seat the service judge as leader for the people and they stood around Moses all day from morning till evening and when his father lost song Moses was doing for the people he said to him what is your doing why do you along the city stretch and all these people they stand around you from morning till evening Moses answered him because the people come to me to see guard whenever they have a concern that is brought to me and I decide between one person and another and make known to them god's decrees and instructions Jethro said to him what you're doing is not good you and all these people who come to you you only wear yourselves out the work is too heavy for you cannot bear it a long now listen to me and I will advise you win god be with you you must be for the people before god and you bring their concerns to god and teach them the decrees send the instructions and show them how they are to live in the duties they are to perform and shoes capable man men who fear god trustworthy man who hate dishonest gain an appoint them as leaders over thousands hundreds fifty cent tens and let them serve as judges for the people that all the time San have them bring the great matters to you in the lesser concerns they can decide for themselves now that'll lighten your load because they share it with you you do this and god will direct you you will be able to endorse and all these people they will go to their place in peace and Moses listened he did everything his father in law told him to do he pointed leaders for the people officials over thousands hundreds fifties in Hanson and they served as judges for the people at all times and the great concerns they brought to Moses in the lesser concerns they decided for themselves and Moses sent his father in law on his way and Jethro returned.

"jethro moses" Discussed on Judaism Unbound

Judaism Unbound

09:05 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on Judaism Unbound

"The waters of the world, going through the sea is back to the womb in some way, or into the Feminine Divine, which is both chaos and order it. It's not binary in that way, so there's something about the journey and I'm grateful that you gave me this fifty because I'm thinking about this journey from the narrow place of Passover. Whatever the revelation! Of would is upon us in. What does it mean this yet? Everyday counts in every day were counting towards what when we're out. Someone told me like fees. The sharks circling. So, talk about being in the city and remembering that I- ancestors sang at the end of that ordeal. They had their drums ready to go packed with drops. How important that music is the beat the that uniting thing. And don't forget the myths that has been accumulated in our archives of Nachon that it wasn't Moses. Who broke the water in? It wasn't the supernatural CD male fireworks. It was one of the Hebrews one of the leaders while everyone was standing in arguing another fantastic myth that there were four camps on the banks of the seat. A group that says let's go back to Egypt. Let's go back to how things work. And one group that said no nuts FIDO. And One group says let's pray and I. Think the last one, said forgetting the fourth, but but not shown is like the one that says No. That's the fourth you kidding jumping. Boom he jumps in and then to co pence, and then Moses doesn't think now. That's a crazy bold. Heretical Jewish legend of thousands of years old it's says human agency in connection with. The power nature chaos order. Variable Berry in its ancient of Ballsy Nachon. An option has sort of come back in. Recent years so the that's helpful. The Human Agency, the courage, the again one in five. It's not everyone wanted four like we have these mathematical grids of. How do you respond to by Swiss other than getting lost mythologies in stories that I do find helpful what I'm really finding helpful is that there is a repertoire of what we call mindfulness skills, and that the points of contact. that. This crisis has bought many of us to. Our about this three part structure it has to do with morning afternoon and night chocolate Ali stopped three times a day and you feel Muslim five times a day. Different Rhythms Fleet Christian and Hindu and Buddhist version. But it's really about forget the words for now. It's about catching your breath. I'm now on Day thirty. The daily soil SPA that are on every day at three PM with people to. Just brief. Catch our breath. See each other. Tap into something a little bigger. That's holding us. Say Cottage Sherry healing prayer. Let Music Hold. Those three things is really what I'm finding. All ritual is helpful with number one connect to yourself. Second is connect with somebody else onscreen I see right now failure. I can't touch. You can't smell you, but I feel you. You feel me. And third is the connection to something beyond. Sacred greater inner. Wow is a bigger force here that stopping everything. Connecting to myself finding ways to connect to people out of choice people who nourish me and who's nourishment is aid. In finding some ways to tap into chaos, the sea nature, mother God spirit each other filling your metaphor. Those are essential tools for survival of the mind, the soul the body. Along those lines, I think that my impression are sort of my great sensation when all of a sudden the entire Jewish world and the entire world. Found itself on Zoom I said sort of my experience like welcome to my world. Welcome welcome, you know I you like. I've been here for the last four or five years and. And I've been I've been trying to get you all the come here you know and a lot of people have, but a lot of haven't and I'm really excited to see them. and. And I've been really excited to see you in the sense that. That I live in Chicago and lap, you'll is in New York, and most of what does is localized to to the local community, and I've been really excited, and I've told you that I'm getting a lot of spiritual sustenance from. Being a member of show and I mean I know I should pay now so I will. But the. But I guess I wanNA I WANNA. Flip that script. Say because I have a sense also that you are welcoming the world to your world. Not The digital world, but there's a spiritual world that you have been building in lab. You'll, and I'm curious if you could tell a little bit about it for those who don't know, but also to kind of give a little bit of a sense of what that looks like because I think that and I wrote something about this and I've talked to this with banana lappy that I've been thinking about the figure of jethro Moses's father in. In, Law who comes and visits Moses in the Wilderness and gives him this advice, which is typically translated and all kinds of ways, but what really struck me was at throw was a man who was already living in the Wilderness, and he knew about the wilderness, and he's there to tell Moses like welcome to my world. Let me tell you what I know. And I think that in that sense. You know we're trying to do that digitally. And I think that there's something really deeply spiritual that you can be doing, and and not only because of you, but I think because if your community because I think a lot of the members of the community are Jews or not, Jews who have already been living on kind of the wilderness of the Jewish experience. You know they've already been living outside many of them outside of the the. The the expected ways of being Jewish and you've built a community of such people and away now I feel like we're all such people, and so there's something really to learn from the model that you've already built and I'd love if you could share some of the things that you feel like are working. The were already working the best, and you know where you're really seeing residents from people who have been your typical person to join lap show, but now you can see where some of that is actually a value to the folks who until recently were living closer to the inside. Yeah. Let's hop from the lofty world of myth to the wild here we now fascinating, and it hasn't been really rewarding to. Just hop on zoom with with you in with his. Friends from all over the country in the world in Lurk at this zoom thing or that thing. So we're learning something here very valuable that clearly once we. Cross the again, we'll look back. And it's a question of what's going to be less of a benefit. I WANNA for one more line that I don't WANNA lose. That was prompted by your questions earlier then I'll get back to the specifics of lab. xo Now in the digital rounded. We've all been some of us have been really playing with for a while. So this verse that I've been thinking a while at told you from the book of Jeremiah. With His prophesying to the world. And he's talking to Egypt. At the time was the conquering hero that he was exiled to? An, you says. Klay Gla AC- lock. Make Yourself. Tools for exile. Does the larger context that we'RE NOT GONNA go there, but I remember reading this earlier like a year ago and thinking Klay Goal Lacquer Seila. What does it mean to have survival pack? Your essentials ready to go. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA have to leave home in five minutes right on the son of survivors. But. That's not really that it's an older human knowledge of like boom. What's in your pack? And what does that mean spiritually? What does that mean ritually? What does it mean the basics? And I feel like the work that I found myself and the people that I found myself loving and living with and in credit community ways. Either left seven the traditional Jewish tropes, or never had them for.

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"jethro moses" Discussed on Daily Grace

Daily Grace

15:22 min | 1 year ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on Daily Grace

"Hey Hey and today we are inviting how most want to say a third co host. Because she's such an experienced podcast much more experienced than me our show. Yeah we got a professional on with us today. I wish you could see her face. Goodness well we are so excited to welcome. Hunter be less on the show. Today and Hunter is one of the first podcast. I started listening to I think. It went risen motherhood and then journey women. Podcast which is one hunters podcast and so Really just great memories of my early podcast listening days which wasn't super super long ago but hunter and all the guests that she's had on her show have just been so helpful for me and my walk with the Lord almost like these little online mentors just like a hundred always says on her show so hunter. Welcome we're so glad that you're here with us today well thank you. I'm super undeserving of those comments. And honestly I've already learned things from you about podcasting in the last ten minutes so deadly always wearing yeah learning from each other. It's awesome it ends. We'll have to have it. Set up a call after this. You continue your ways same with you but we are thrilled to have you on the air hunter seriously. You know all of us at the daily Grace. Co are just huge fans of you and the work you're doing with the journey one and podcast and you know personally your love and devotion and obedience to the Lord Really Spurs me on to love and good works and you're such a sweet example even just the little things you already said of engaging others thoughtfully and humbly so thank you so much for being you friend. Oh thanks for having me on Tell Kirsten often that I wish I could just be a member of the daily Greece. Co- team so this is a part of this today. Welcome anytime yes but just in case someone is listening and they don't know who you are. Can you tell us a little bit about you? Your family what an average day looks like and kind of the heart behind journey woman. Absolutely well I wouldn't expect any listener to know who I am. I am very average and very average but I am currently living in New Hampshire which is a change for me because I actually used to live and right where you're living now Stephanie. Benning Georgia my husband was in the military for eight years and we recently made the transition out. He is now a student at Dartmouth. I'm he's actually talk business school so is transitioning into the civilian world and we have three. Keto is we have Hadley. She's four almost five Davey. She's three and baby Bo. Who is eight months? Who's currently sleeping upstairs? Yeah Yeah so. That's my primary work is loving my family and being with my Kiddos and loving on my husband so really grateful to get to be home. Full time with them in that capacity and in the fringe hours when Brooks was doing kind of like training and stuff like that for the military or he would be deployed There was just a lot of dead space for me. Were babies was napping or put them down at seven. Thirty eight o'clock at night and then I just kind of be sitting there A lot of times and so. That's when journey women was born and I started recording conversations with mentors and friends and pushing them out online about two years ago as a little bit over two years ago. Now we have a little team of women who have come alongside me and we basically just record. Conversations with mentors ends push not online for other women's encouragement in their journey to glorify. Got Love that yes. It's definitely an awesome awesome podcast and so cool how God gave you the opportunity to glorify him those extra moments so I love that and you know we are excited to have you kind of talk about something today that you've kind of shown us on the podcast and that's learning from those believers who come before us you know that could be you know people who have come before us throughout history but specifically we wanna talk about learning from those women and the faith who are older than us whether that's Jest by spiritual maturity are also age and so we kind of want to jump into that idea of discipleship and being disciple by somebody who is kind of spiritually more mature and further along the faith so to start that off hunter. Could you just tell us what is discipleship? And why does it matter? Yeah me and I love discipleship and I don't know that I'm a great disciple maker but I certainly loved to be disciples. I love to learn from other women as you can see that is like you said the heart behind the journey women podcast and so. I don't know again that I'm a great disciple maker but I feel like I'm a really good disciple and so of course it's predictable that I would share a definition of discipleship that somebody else has shared with me because I love to be disabled and my friend Kaitlyn Solan she said discipleship is a relationship with the learner who is following to be like his leader not just to know what the leader knows but to be as his leader is or her leader is. Yeah I love that definition and I think that kind of encapsulates the importance of this topic really because whether we acknowledge it or not we are always being disciple. D- We're always following somebody right like I think that is more prevalent now than ever before we're following people and we're being Louis by them so I think the question is more like who are you following. Even if you're not in a discipleship relationship formerly who is it following an are they worthy of your followership because if you're not being disabled by a woman who is following the Lord who submitting herself to the word of God then. You're running the risk of being disabled by people who are pointing you in the direction of culture share. GonNa look a lot more like the culture and you're going to look like Jesus and so. I just think it's so important for us as Chris. Christian women to humbly submit ourselves to the word of God and humbly submit ourselves to men and women have gone before us and to men and women who are in the context of our local churches as we go about the work that the Lord has set before us so if we're talking about Christian discipleship I love The little definition. I don't know where I heard this but follow me as I follow. Jesus I think that's just a great encapsulation of what Christian discipleship is. Yeah Yeah that reminds me of what Paul says right imitate me as I imitate cry unless have been where I got that. Hey No better source than absolutely. Yeah we know that you value God's word as the ultimate authority on truth like I. That's why I love journeymen podcasts. I mean I love you and the mentors you bring on. But you know you guys are just pointing women back and trying to reclaim the social media platform by pointing people to the word of God right so now. Could you kind of point our listeners. To what God's word has to say about learning from those who have gone before us You know I was thinking about this and I know both of you guys are really passionate about the big story of the Bible looking in the whole Bible. I just think it's really cool that think through all the different kind of mentoring relationships that we see throughout the tax like it's not just in the New Testament which is kind of all all share. Some of those passages that I think of when I think about discipleship here in a moment when you're reading the text I just think it'd be really interesting if you're doing like a Bible reading plan which I know you guys encourage Just to go through into note. The relationships of older people mentoring and and pouring into younger people and I was thinking about it and I was like you know you have a jethro. Moses's his father-in-law and in the book exodus. You have ruth and Naomi and her mother-in-law pouring into her you have Elizabeth and Mary in the Gospels like Mary finds out she's expecting and she goes to Elizabeth Priscilla Aquilla where they go and they take a policy side and they they correct him in love and then he's able to reach the Gospel accurately as a result of Paul and Timothy. And then of course you have the example of examples you have Jesus near the twelve disciples so it's just all over the text But when I think specifically about discipleship my brain always goes straight to two different tax it goes to Matthew Twenty eight the Great Commission Which says Jesus came to them and said all authority in Heaven and earth has been given to me therefore go and make disciples of all nations baptizing them teaching them to obey everything that I have you and behold I'm with you always even to the end of the age so that tax receipts. We're seeing that. We're called to make disciples and Titus two which is a great passage which says but as for you teach what accords with sound doctrine older managed to be sober minded dignified self-controlled sound in faith and love and instead fastness older women likewise or to be reverend behavior not slanderers or slaves too much wine there to teach what is good and so trained young women to love their husbands and children to be self controlled here working at home kind and submissive to their own husbands that the word of God may not be reviled so again you see from these Verses that we are called to both be making disciples into me disciples so we're right to be taught by older women who aren't just older in years which that is really helpful and I always love it when I can get around somebody who has a lot more life experience than me and can teach me sound doctrine but specifically women who are able to teach what is good and to observe Everything that Jesus commanded. I love that because if you look at the word to be a disciple is to make disciple like you said. It's not just relegated to spiritual giants or people with platform. So I love that to be a disciples to make disciples. It's for all of us. Yeah you know. You're talking about learning from these women who've gone before you and I'm wondering if you could share maybe some of your own personal experience of being disciple D- by people who were further along in the faith in you and maybe you can share with us kind of how those relationships got started. And what impact they had on your faith and destroy life in general I cannot think about discipleship without thinking about a mentor of mine from college. Her name is Joyce lassie and I've shared about her many times. I can't stop sharing about her even though that was over ten years ago and the very first time. I met her. She's a friend One of my best friends is best friends with her daughter so I went to their house and she had heard that I was trying to memorize equations one. I don't know that I ever accomplished as it. Don't be too impressed. But she didn't mess around with pleasantries. She sat down on the Ottoman in front of me. And she says I hear your memorizing Fijian's and I said yes I've never met this woman and she says what version and I was like well. Esv and she grabble and she opens it to Fiji's one and she says quoting and I was like. Oh Wow and really I mean I share that because the foundation of our relationship really was the word of God and I have this memory of her. She would hold that very same Bible in the palm of her hand and she would put her hand on the cover and she would quote these verses from Deuteronomy. Thirty two which I've really come to love which say it is no empty word for you. She would say this is no empty word for you. This is your very life and she shared the Word of God and the Gospel God with me and then she also shared her life with me such a way that I was able to Really imitate her as she follows the Lord. Jesus and it's been ten years like I said since Joyce and I were in a discipleship relationship and honestly after her kiddos graduated from high school she made the move overseas and I really haven't talked to her a whole lot. Because we're in totally different time zones totally different sides of the plant and yet that impact that she made on me. Ten years ago is still reaping a harvest today even in this conversation that we're sharing now because a lot of the ways in which she disciple me are the ways in which I am now disciple and making going about the work of making disciples so It's pretty cool the impact that a tad and yeah. I you know I continued to be disabled by lots of different women And that's such gift but she is definitely one that stands out in my mind Probably because it was one of the first times that I've ever really been disciple D- I love that. That's how God's economy works like multiplication. Right it's like one person disciples another and then disciples another and it just keeps going on and that's kind of the beauty of of discipleship and personally I've longed for those relationships. I remember when I was Newer my faith just wanting someone to come alongside me and I know many of our listeners. Also long for these types of relationships but really don't know how to get connected or the even feel like they don't have a place there So what advice do you have for kind of seeking out those kinds of relationships? Yeah I think number one begin to pray Begin to ask the Lord. Can you open up my eyes to women who are in my sphere And I can learn from and that I can also teach Which that's that's uncomfortable. I think sometimes for me to think because you don't want to be so presumptuous. As to think that you can do that but you can and Zorzi pray And the just recognize that like I said even me I mean I've been making disciples now for you know intentionally making disciples for over a decade and still. I wouldn't it. It's been very seldom that I've gone to someone and said can I mentor you. It just feels like a really presumptuous question. Sometimes it's kind of awkward and so I wouldn't wait for a woman to come to you and to say. Hey Can I mentor you? I would encourage you instead to go to her and I think sometimes a question like will you be my mentor. brings with it some grandiose ideas about what discipleship needs to look like. I think I don't know. Do you guys feel like this like I. I this picture of us like sitting across the table with a hot cup of coffee just kind of exposing the word together. It's really I don't like but that's not the way..

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"jethro moses" Discussed on 600 WREC

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15:39 min | 2 years ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on 600 WREC

"Listen for the word of God. As it speaks to you today. I we have Jeremiah chapter one versus four through ten Jeremiah's. Call and commission. Now, the word of the Lord came to me saying before I formed you in the womb. I knew you and before you were born, I consecrated you. I appointed you a prophet to the nations. Then I said Lord, God truly do not know how to speak for only a youth. But the Lord said to me do not say, I am only a youth or you shall go to all to whom I send you and you shall speak whatever I command, you do not be afraid of them for. I am with you to deliver. You says the Lord then the Lord put out his hand and touched my mouth and the Lord said to me now, I have put my words in your mouth see today. I appoint you over nations and over kingdoms to pluck up and to pull down to destroy and to overthrow to build and to plant and from the gospel of Luke. Chapter four versus twenty one through thirty. Then he began to say to them today. The scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing all spoke well of him and were amazed. At gracious words that came from his mouth, they said is not this Joseph, son. He said to them doubtless. You will quote to me this proverb. Doctor cure yourself, and you will say do here. Also in your hometown, the things we have heard you. Did it Copernicus him? And he said, truly, I tell you. No prophet is accepted in the prophets hometown. But the truth is there were many widows in Israel in the time of Elijah when the heaven was shot up three years and six months, and there was a severe famine over all the land yet Elijah was sent to none of them except to a widow at Zahra fat in Sidon. There were also many lepers in Israel in the time of Elisha. And none of them was cleansed except naming the Syrian. When they heard this all in the synagogue were filled with rage. They got up drove him out of the town and led him to the brow of the hill on which their town was built. So that they might hurl him off the cliff, but he passed through the midst of them and went on his way here in our readings all thanks and praise be to God. Let us pray. Come Holy Spirit. Come christ. Redeem all that is in need of saving loving God, we seek communion with you. We long to know you more our hearts open to you. Oh, man. In two thousand and eight after losing her parliamentary seat Wangari Maathai urged tribal leaders to help stop ethnic killings following a disputed presidential election. This was a precarious season. The text messages to her read like this because of your opposing the government at all times, we have decided to look for your head very soon. One Ghauri Matthias received these text messages one Gary Matthias was the first African woman to receive the Nobel peace prize, and the Nobel committee said of her that she was a strong voice speaking for the best forces in Africa to promote peace and good living conditions on that continent. Her unique forms of action have contributed to drawing attention to political oppression. This push for peace for Justice made her dangerous. She'd already changed vast numbers of women's lives pushed for civil rights as she founded the green belt movement and Kenya and worked to get over thirty million trees planted in that country thirty million trees. Of course, there was a fact that she'd faced house arrest been beaten to unconsciousness jailed and received death threats. But we know this right to work for peace to work for Justice to work for civil rights is dangerous work. I got to meet Wangari Maathai in two thousand and seven a year before these death threats when a friend of mine interviewed her in Chicago. Got to hear her saying amazing grace in Kukuh four years later. She died of ovarian cancer I thought of one Gary Mathare right away. When I read today's gospel text in this passage, listen to the ark of the narrative. Jesus. Reads from the scroll all speak well of him. They listened to him amazed at the gracious words from his lips. They become furious at him. They drive him out of town to a cliff to kill him. We've seen this in our lifetimes. People praised on social media quickly become recipients of death threats. Prophets challenge. People things institutions they challenged the status quo. They shake things up people. Find them unsettling at best at worst people want to do away with the prophet all together. In this reading from Luke. Did you catch it? Why did the crowd turn on Jesus? Why? So quickly Jesus angers the crowd because he highlights the fact in the readings he chooses to show how outsiders find their way to God through prophets. Elisha goes to a widow during a great famine inside in Sidon was in a gentile region. It had a long history of paganism and would have been unclean, by Jewish standards Elisha goes and lives with and helps the widow of Sidon, and it's a mixed bag. But in the end the woman says to Elijah now, I know that you are a man of God. And that the word of the Lord in your mouth is truth. Then Jesus mentions Elisha, and and the Syrian it's a fascinating story of naming that Jesus highlights to the crowd naming a strong Syrian army commander who had leprosy names. Wife's servant girl was from Israel. And she knew alisha could help heal naming name and didn't believe what Elisha told him name and didn't want the cure. If it involved bathing in the Jordan river seven times, but eventually he's sick and tired of being sick and tired. He goes to the Jordan, and is healed. And now he knew he knew that the God of Israel was a God of compassion. A God with courageous prophets. A God of powerful healing. Name and said to Elisha now, I know that there is no God in all the world except in Israel. Now, I know. It's striking with the widow and name and told the prophets. Isn't it? Both said now, I know now, I know you Dottie, I know by this. I know do we get this that it's in these acts in these times, God is known people know the presence of God. What more can we want them to be a conduit for God to know God to help God be known? In exodus Jethro Moses's father in law says now I know that the Lord is greater than all other gods and later mica said now, I know that the Lord will be good to me since this Levite has become my priest. Jesus was a disruptor a paradigm shift or a table Turner to get to know Jesus was to get to know about the great love of God, he made the circle bigger and those who had power were saddened by all they lost. When the circle included others. He made the circle bigger and those who had much had to let go or walk away. And they hated having to make that decision. He made the circle bigger. And those who had always been on the outs on the outs of society on the margins. Those who had little we're glad to be seen. He made the circle bigger and those who'd been ill those who had suffered they rejoiced because his very nature was one of healing. And they were now. Well, and now they knew. Now, they knew. In Shakespeare's play hamlet Polonius says though this be madness yet there is method in it. There may be holy madness. In prophetic actions. Prophets occupy that limited space between God and humanity. They have a closeness and intimacy with God which can be threatening because they're fearless. Martin Luther King junior closed his last speech saying, and so I'm happy tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord. The next day. He was assassinated. Jesus before his death tells pilot the Roman governor of Judea, you would have no power over me unless it had been given you from above. In their prophetic work. They're out there suspended mid air. They've let go of safety and security. You know, my daughter has gone to gamma PHI circus camps for years. She does trap peas, and there's this moment that makes my stomach clench as a mom when she's mid air. She wears a harness. But still I've tried to catch that moment on my camera. There's the swing and the catch, but inbetween is a limo moment when her long black hair is flying out behind her. And she's suspended mid air before she's caught on the other side. They've missed before not made the catch when the timing was off yet. I by a huge cya of relief when the young college students, so incredibly strong catch her hands with there's she gets caught on the other side. Caught on the other side, those who have braved prophetic acts fling themselves out into the unknown trusting God, trusting they'll be caught on the other side. They and we do this. We dare brave things in faith because we know God and are known by God. Elisha Elisha Jesus. Martin Luther King junior won Gary Muth by caught on the other side prophets. Keep going stay the course despite visible evidence. What prophetic action is God calling you to where in your heart? Do you know God has had a role since you were a child to what courage might God be calling you? Now, something you know, God is urging you toward to pluck up or pull down to destroy or overthrow to build or to plant. I Thessalonica has a passage that says, but in every place your faith in God has become known. God will always give us a choice. God may give you all kinds of mad skills. Great talents. You might have the great good fortune to have education of all sorts. But you also have the choice how to use these at any point you can walk away. I felt very connected to China in a deep way since I was a young child a dream of mine was to adopt a child from China in two thousand and two after a two year. Wait, my family, my mother, and I got on a United flight and took the journey to meet our new family member young. It was Christmas in the midst of that eagerness and stress. Good Christian people well-meaning, I know came up to me and ask questions like do. You know what you're doing? Do. You know, what you're getting into you really don't know what you're getting into. Now, I know not to do that when someone is stepping out in faith. Now, I know that what's needed when someone seeks to hear and follow. God is encouragement yet. We can wish to keep people safe situation. Safe to not rock any boats to live such cautious lives that they become devoid of meaning and become as Henry David Thoreau wrote lives of quiet desperation. On our China trip. It turned out we got to travel with a family who had adopted before. And they reassured us at the airport. You've got this. I needed to know that then when we were flinging our hearts out across the miles toward a child who had not met us yet. God is amazing at putting people in our path who will help us on the journey when we step out in faith. Now that, you know, make your faith known be brave because Beijing in faith, let go into that limited space trusting God to catch you. In her Nobel peace prize lecture, Wangari Maathai said this. In the course of history. There comes a time when humanity is called to shift to a new level of consciousness to reach a higher moral ground a time when we have to shed our fear and give hope to each other. That time is now. The poet Wh Auden wrote about Christ in for the time being a Christmas oratorio Auden wrote. He is the truth. Seek him in the kingdom of anxiety. You will come to a great city that has expected your return.

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"jethro moses" Discussed on 600 WREC

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15:40 min | 2 years ago

"jethro moses" Discussed on 600 WREC

"Listen for the word of God. As it speaks to you today. I we have Jeremiah chapter one versus four through ten Jeremiah's. Call and commission. Now, the word of the Lord came to me saying before I formed you in the womb. I knew and before you were born, I consecrated you. I appointed you a prophet to the nations. Then I said Lord, God, truly, I do not know how to speak for. I am only a youth. But the Lord said to me do not say, I am only a youth or you shall go to all to whom I send you and you shall speak whatever I command, you do not be afraid of them for. I am with you to deliver. You says the Lord then the Lord put out his hand and touched my mouth and the Lord said to me now, I have put my words in your mouth see today. I appoint you over nations and over kingdoms to pluck up and to pull down. Down to destroy and to overthrow to build and to plant and from the gospel of Luke. Chapter four versus twenty one through thirty. Then he began to say to them today. The scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing all spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his mouth, they said is not this Joseph, son. He said to them doubtless. You will quote to me this proverb. Doctor cure yourself, and you will say do here. Also in your hometown, the things we have heard you did at Caproni him. And he said, truly, I tell you. No prophet is accepted in the prophets hometown. But the truth is there were many widows and Israel in the time of Elijah when the heaven was shot up three years and six months, and there was a severe famine over all the land. Get Elijah was sent to none of them. Except to a widow at Zahra fat in Sidon. There were also many lepers in Israel in the time of Elisha. And none of them was cleansed except naming the Syrian. When they heard this all in the synagogue were filled with rage. They got up drove him out of the town and led him to the brow of the hill on which thirteen was built. So that they might hurl him off the cliff, but he passed through the midst of them and went on his way here in our readings all thanks and praise be to God. Let us pray. Come Holy Spirit. Come christ. Redeem all that is in need of saving loving God, we seek communion with you. We long to know you more our hearts open to you. I'll man. In two thousand and eight after losing her parliamentary seat Wangari Maathai urged tribal leaders to help stop ethnic killings following a disputed presidential election. This was a precarious season. The text messages to her read like this because of your opposing the government at all times, we have decided to look for your head very soon. Wangari Maathai received these text messages. One Gary Matthias was the first African woman to receive the Nobel peace prize, and the Nobel committee said of her that she was a strong voice speaking for the best forces in Africa to promote peace and good living conditions on that continent. Her unique forms of action have contributed to drawing attention to political oppression. This push for peace for Justice made her dangerous. She'd already changed vast numbers of women's lives pushed for civil rights as she founded the green belt movement and Kenya and worked to get over thirty million trees planted in that country thirty million trees. Of course, there was a fact that she'd faced house arrest been beaten to unconsciousness jailed and received death threats. But we know this right to work for peace to work for Justice to work for civil rights is dangerous work. I got to meet one Ghauri Matthias in two thousand and seven a year before these death threats when a friend of mine interviewed her in Chicago got to hear her sing amazing grace in cuckoo for years later. She died of ovarian cancer. I thought of one Garay Mathare right away. When I read today's gospel text in this passage, listen to the ark of the narrative. Jesus reads from the scroll all speak well of him. They listen to him a nasal at the gracious words from his lips. They become furious at him. They drive him out of town to a cliff to kill him. We've seen this in our lifetimes. People praised on social media quickly become recipients of death threats. Prophets challenge. People things institutions they challenged the status quo. They shake things up people. Find them unsettling at best at worst people want to do away with the prophet altogether. In this reading from Luke. Did you catch it? Why did the crowd turn on Jesus? Why? So quickly. Jesus angers the crowd because he highlights the fact in the readings he chooses to show how outsiders find their way to God through prophets. Elisha goes to a widow during a great famine inside in Sidon was in a gentile region. It had a long history of paganism and would have been unclaimed, by Jewish standards. Elisha goes and lives with and helps the widow of Sidon, and it's a mixed bag. But in the end the woman says to Elijah now, I know that you are a man of God. And that the word of the Lord in your mouth is truth. Then Jesus mentions Elisha and naming the Syrian. It's a fascinating story of name. And that Jesus highlights to the crowd naming a strong Syrian army commander who had leprosy names. Wife's servant girl was from Israel. And she knew a life Shah could help heal naming naming didn't believe what Elisha told him name and didn't want the cure. If it involved bathing in the Jordan river seven times, but eventually he's sick and tired of being sick and tired. He goes to the Jordan, and is healed. And now he knew he knew that the God of Israel was a God of compassion. A God with courageous prophets. A God of powerful healing. Name and said to Elisha now, I know that there is no God in all the world except in Israel. Now, I know. It's striking with the widow name and told the prophets. Isn't it? Both said now, I know now, I know you Dottie, I know by this. I know do we get this that it's in these acts in these times, God is known people know the presence of God. What more can we want them to be a conduit for God to know God to help God be known in exodus Jethro Moses's father in law says now I know that the Lord is greater than all other gods? And later mica said now, I know that the Lord will be good to me since this Levi has become my priest. Jesus was a disruptor a paradigm shift or a table Turner to get to know Jesus was to get to know about the great love of God, he made the circle bigger and those who had power were saddened by all they lost. When the circle included others. He made the circle bigger and those who had much had to let go or walk away. And they hated having to make that decision. He made the circle bigger. And those who had always been on the outs on the outs of society on the margins. Those who had little we're glad to be seen. He made the circle bigger and those who'd been ill those who had suffered they rejoiced because his very nature was one of healing. And they were now. Well, and now they knew. Now, they knew. In Shakespeare's play hamlet Polonius says though this be madness yet there is method in it. There may be holy madness. In prophetic actions. Prophets occupy that limited space between God and humanity. They have a closeness and intimacy with God which can be threatening because they're fearless. Martin Luther King junior closed his last speech saying, and so I'm happy tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord. The next day. He was assassinated. Jesus before his death tells pilot the Roman governor of Judea, you would have no power over me unless it had been given you from above. In their prophetic work. They're out there suspended mid air. They've let go of safety and security. You know, my daughter has gone to gamma PHI circus camps for years. She does trap peas, and there's this moment that makes my stomach clench as a mom when she's mid air. She wears a harness. But still I've tried to catch that moment on my camera. There's the swing and the catch, but in between is eliminated moment when her long black hair is flying out behind her. And she's suspended mid air before she's caught on the other side. They've missed before not made the catch when the timing was off yet I signed by a huge cya of relief when the young college students, so incredibly strong catch her hands with there's she gets caught on the other side. Caught on the other side, those who have braved prophetic acts fling themselves out into the unknown trusting God, trusting they'll be caught on the other side. They and we do this. We dare brave things in faith because we know God and are known by God. Elisha Elisha Jesus. Martin Luther King junior won Gary Muth caught on the other side prophets. Keep going stay the course despite visible evidence. What prophetic action is God calling you to where in your heart? Do you know God has had a role since you were a child to what courage might God be calling you? Now, something you know, God is urging you toward to pluck up or pull down to destroy or overthrow to build or to plant. First Thesselonians has a passage that says, but in every place your faith in God has become known. God will always give us a choice. God may give you all kinds of mad skills. Great talents. You might have the great good fortune to have education of all sorts. But you also have the choice how to use these at any point you can walk away. I felt very connected to China in a deep way since I was a young child a dream of mine was to adopt a child from China in two thousand and two after a two year. Wait, my family, my mother, and I got on a United flight and took the journey to meet our new family member young. It was Christmas in the midst of that eagerness and stress. Good Christian people well-meaning, I know came up to me and ask questions like. Do you know what you're doing? Do you know what you're getting into you really don't know what you're getting into? Now, I know not to do that when someone is stepping out in faith. Now, I know that what's needed when someone seeks to hear and follow. God is encouragement yet. We can wish to keep people safe situation. Safe to not rock any boats to live such cautious lives that they become devoid of meaning and become as Henry David Thoreau wrote lives of quiet desperation. On our China trip. It turned out we got to travel with the family who had adopted before. And they reassured us at the airport. You've got this. I needed to know that then when we were flinging our hearts out across the miles toward a child who had not met us yet. God is amazing at putting people in our path who will help us on the journey when we step out in faith. Now that, you know, make your faith known be brave. Be courageous in faith. Let go into that limited space trusting God to catch. You. In her Nobel peace prize lecture, Wangari Maathai said this. In the course of history. There comes a time when humanity is called to shift to a new level of consciousness to reach a higher moral ground a time when we have to shed our fear and give hope to each other. That time is now. The poet Wh Auden wrote about Christ in for the time being a Christmas or a Torio Auden wrote. He is the truth. Seek him in the kingdom of anxiety. You will come to a great city that has expected your return for.

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