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Beck In Black, Part 2: How does Matt Canada factor in Ben Roethlisbergers Lombardi hunt?

Behind the Steel Curtain

30:59 min | 8 months ago

Beck In Black, Part 2: How does Matt Canada factor in Ben Roethlisbergers Lombardi hunt?

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So our second topic today obviously the other interview that went down on Tuesday believe was one Mr Matt Canada. A ton of a ton of great stuff and a ton of interesting thoughts around Mad Canada and this coaching staff what he brings to this team what the ad means. I think it kind of want to start off at the running back position because obviously Matt Canada has worked a ton with the mood. He bounced around a lot and then Pittsburgh managed to draft a running back for I'm basically kind of chased him around wherever he went, which is interesting. Maybe there's some grand scheme here maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist. But obviously James Connor at the McFarland and Jalen. Samuels. Under, a Matt Canada. Do, you think that that's GonNa Affect this offense are they going to get a few more looks? Is Benny Snell. Even the odd man out it does that mean anything you Mr Benedict. It does I honestly think there is a reason we have so many Matt Canada running backs and that's because he uses them very versatile is running backs run routes they line up as a wingback, which is the predecessor to what we now use for slot receiver and they ran routes. So when you look in for a running back and say, hey, we want someone who can run but we also want someone who's going to be a threat in the passing game because. Ben. Rothlisberger is our offense. He's GonNa throw the ball to these guys. It. Kind of gives a little bonus if they in a Matt candidate style offense where they had a lot of versatile usage or they did a bunch of different things. Right now I'm sorry to cut you off not. What Do because that's right where I was going. All right. So in the live chat, they're saying Jalen Samuels is not making this roster. Oh I'll throw it right back to do group that is someone that's GonNa be on this team in net twenty twenty or they moving on he was the leading receiver among running backs I. believe he had more receiving yards than any tight end last year he also led the entire running back position the number of snaps plate offensive snaps let everybody. I. Don't think he's going anywhere after his injury and he came back. He stopped playing special teams. They kept him off of that. He probably wasn't a hundred percent, but he's a good special teams player. He is really good in the shotgun. He's a good receiver. He's not good at being a runner in traffic. You know kinds of the smell expertise of being a guy who runs in heavy traffic just. Finds a way to get yard same similar thing would live on bell. Jailed Samuels isn't that guy? He's an. Old Guy. So last year. The boxes clogged everyone's focusing on run. He didn't have enough space to work ben is back. He's going to have more space chase clearly pool is out there in air out there stretching the field. He's GonNa have to work. You're going to see him used more and. With Matt Canada Jalen Samuels the reason he was drafted undrafted. He was listed as a tight AC everyone was like is this Guy End? He's clearly running back. The reason they last resisted him as a tight end is because when he played in college for Matt Canada and the guys who followed him, he was a wingback which lines up and looks like a tight end but that's his position as a running back position. In that candidate system and we've seen. Jalen Samuels be good receiver and we've seen him be. A good runner in space. And if matter if they're bringing back any of Matt Canada's wing back, kind of options and and Kinda looks. He's the best guy for that job. That's his best position. He's not a true running back. He's going back. Now, two questions for you. One for me, I is the wildcat dead or is that coming back the the old interception for Jalen Samuels play and then second question comes from Brad Jewett who a quite He screams it. I guess here it's only capsule. He says tell me you're gonNA keep for running backs in the room obviously, the steelers traditionally keeps three. Do. You think the cat is dead. They were keeping four for quite a bit last year. As long as they're getting special teams use out of them. That is something they will do if Anthony McFarland is kick returner. Very, likely, we could see four running backs and the fullback. One of the reasons they kept for last year was they lost Roosevelt Knicks but we could see that happen I. Think the wildcat is dead. But speaking of Canada, the best part of the wildcats is is back Canada's like that's his thing the best part of the wildcat was James Connor like they would when they snapped to to Jalen Samuels and he just pitched forward to James Connor in it was pass but he ran the Jet Sweep That's like that's what Matt Canada does and they were able to do that with James Connor because that's James. He did that in college he did that was not candidate. He knows how to do a jet sweet and those were the best moments from that wildcat why they kept going back to that. So I think the wildcat is dead but I think you'll see that stick around as some of the stuff that Matt Canada adds to offense. Right, of course, touching on the jet sweeps, you know Mac Hata brings a ton He he he is kind of an expert and kind of spreading out the field moving moving the defensive players around shifting formation. What does he bring this team is he is this a game changing move? What is Matt? Can is impact on the twenty twenty steelers. Okay. Yeah. This is where my alley I did a film room on this I think last week but. You take those sweeps. I think everyone remembers Juju Smith Schuster I. pro- probably most people remember us. Mr. I catch was a touchdown is very first time Ben threw him the ball was a touchdown and it was a what we call shovel pass where he ran behind the line of scrimmage and was almost running play Ben just tossed it forward to him and he ran with the ball. Canada ran those but not out of the shotgun, he ran out of the quarterbacks under center, and that's just a wingback run that kind of pass plays in old wingback run from back in the old days of football. Just with the quarterback too far back and has to pitch it forward. You're like the same the tap pass to James. Connor assist the jet sweep. So I I think we'll see. That kind of stuff worked in. So I think we will see more jet sweeps. I, don't trust Dante Johnson unjust. We we he ran a couple. So, fast out those, he's so fast out of those that you're just like, yeah he's great with the ball why not do that? the interesting thing with those places. You can take. Running backs out of the backfield and still have a running threat. If. You see Jude Juju Smith Schuster lined up there right off the tight end, and he runs that little little shovel pass he's attacking run gap. Just like you would if you hand it off to a running back and he ran it. But it's a pass and he's not lined up in the backfield. There's if they're in man, there's nobody sitting over the defense watching that play same with the jet sweep a run to the outside. Where you didn't have anyone behind the quarterback have anyone back there they're out in formation and you don't know are the is he running a slant is going five yard our or could just fly across the middle of the formation and take the ball in the runner. I and that's where. mcdonagh's impact really to me fits fits what the steelers do fits what Rothlisberger likes like he loves being in the shotgun, but you can run these things other shock on it benefits him even poor because it turns a run into a vast let. so He's collecting stats. He's looking at everything's looking better and you have these multiple threats where you didn't before right now obviously can't it brings a ton and this offense going to be really interesting. To Watch because I, think there's a lot of things going on here. If I asked you to define this offense, is it a west coast offense? Is it a running gun offense at? What would you describe the Matt Canada? Offense ass. That's the thing. Like the best I give old school I. Guess It's it's Oracle in highschool huffing and. You don't know like he's always said He fits it to personnel when he was in Wisconsin it was a ton of Ron big formations, lots of stuff One of my favorite things he does when he was with pit. Is he ran or Peos with quarterback that didn't run. He wrote a repast option with a quarterback who didn't run and how he did it as if you watch, the game will take the staff. have their RPO hand off that kind of like my handed off to James Connor I don't know if I am yet. He's doing that with Connor and if he doesn't hand it off to Connor, he pulls it away and pitches it up the middle to a tight end who then takes shuttled pass and runs. So, he's not even like the quarterbacks not going to run with the ball, but it's an RPO. You get that kind of Connersville in that way or is tight and going that way he did that in college he did that beat. Clemson, with it That kind of thing is is it's crazy and then you go look at him in Maryland where it was all about wingbacks, it was a lot Tana jet sweep running backs play their plane three running backs at a time. The, you got three running backs tight end on the field and a quarterback. And One wide receiver it's that's the kind of stuff he can run there. You have in wide open. It's all over the place and I think his he really Tip that off to by saying you know I'm here to learn what we do best here, and I'm here to learn what what Benda's best and that's what we're going to do. He's GonNa fit that into what Ben does best, which is probably GonNa be a lot of stuff out of shock. Yeah. No kidding and obviously with the way that he molds offense, I think Matt Canada's a really interesting name to be the next offense coordinator. Do you think that is realistic? It was Matt Cana broaden to lead this offense one day or is he gonNa have more of an impact in be kind of a pseudo offense coordinator come day one. I think you'll have some impact We got our first confirmation of that Deontay Johnson's interview today where he kind of kind of let it slip the they're learning. Those motions. He stated he's I'm still learning those motions and the stuff that back Canada brings. So they're they're using some of it Is He a future offense coordinator I. Think he will be. I think he's the kind of guy that's GonNa get that shot. I don't know if it'll be Pittsburgh. It could be somewhere else I mean he could. We've seen guys bounce from the NFL back to college and then back to the NFL again if this offense really takes off though. And you see ben kind of revitalized and they take a couple of years with Matt Canada playing. quarterback coach maybe give him a promotion title but have him doing the same thing. You could definitely see him if we're contending super bowl yet yet someone would grab him and be like I'm come do that for us and no king now it the steelers offense does take off. Could they justify firing feed? Because because it, he's still the offense corner. If they take off you can they fire the OC to bring the qb coach I think steelers fans will accept it but you think that's something that would be a reasonable to actually happen i. think it could happen. But not for a couple of years I think you're you're talking at least two years even if the offense this year suddenly takes off and we. Win The super bowl someone might try to hire him but that's one season. That's that's a someone who's been in the NFL for exactly one season. He has never coached in the NFL before, and so that would be tough. That'd be really tough for a team to say, we're going to drop him in make him our offensive coordinator for one season. So I think we're GONNA, see a couple of seasons Ben Rothlisberger gone. By the even keep Randy fichtner like. visor any feature your offense coordinator Ben Rothlisberger is gone. He just runs benzoate rothlisburger offense. That's he does. So I I think that we could see the. By I don't think it'll be right away. Super Quick question for you. Ben Rothlisberger or Matt candidate WHO's more likely to be the next dealers an offensive coordinator Better, office offense coordinator now. You're right. Now he's going to be until he retires I think he's probably the offense coordinator for the next four or five year. A stick around I. Think he's got. He's he's GonNa do it. He's going to be that Guy GonNa continue to be that guy. I'm you know I wouldn't be surprised by that at all now in Mac Hannah's offense obviously obviously there you can't run stuff a little bit different. What's One? Not Not quarterback necessarily but what's one player that you think's going to be the most positively affected by having him? Running kind of working with this offense. I guess. If if they want to use the wingback physician as a big F and we'd see that say if the steelers keep fewer wide receivers and they don't keep like a Ryan Switzer as a keep Jalen Samuels, you could see Jaylen Samuels lining up primarily kind of as a slot receiver as almost like a receiver. If that happens it would be Jalen Samuels. Other than that. I would say, Deontay Johnson stands a chance. One Who could people won't like this after I just said I don't think he makes the Roster Ryan Switzer. Ryan, Switzer could do it. If you remember Ryan Switzer has played like the sidecar and shotgun he has played all over the place he's played on the inside and outside of trips formations. I could see him running those little shovel passes because that would still keep Juju Smith Schuster deontay Johnson on the outside drawing attention analysis in the Ryan Switzer's in there boom he's in the middle gaining what zero zero yards. One Yard he could. He could see that kind of usage He fits it. He's versatile. We could see that really I really hope the steelers do better than that. But I, I can see it happening He's because he can do it and that's the big question is if as Matt Canada's this. As they apply some of his stuff to the offense is going to be who can learn. The role who can learn to play that wing pack position where you're GONNA have to do three or four different things and you're gonNA have to sell those different things. You're you'RE GONNA have a lot of versatility required of you. We know Jalen. Samuels can do it. We can look at a guy like the Johnson who has taken those kind of jet sweeps as a he could do it James Connor shown he can he can do that kind of stuff but do you want James Connor lining up out there that's more gimmick than you know regular thing. I could see a lot of people benefiting I think it works the number one, the number one benefit is to Ben Rothlisberger. That's number one. Because if we're running the shovel passes and these jet sweeps. Defenses. Have to be looking short. They have to be thinking laterally. We can spread out and they still have to think about the middle of the field you're just creating gaps you're pulling and stressing the defense recreating creating little gaps. And Ben Ben, doesn't need much than doesn't need much to hit targets and open space. That's the you don't have to give him much right and Makhaya. Even talked about his accuracy during his interview backtracking a little bit. You're seeing Ryan. Switzer talking about his versatility graduate not feel in it said, no, he is not versatile and he wants you to tell them how. Can you give them the breakdown of how Ryan Switzer is versatile I, WanNa say it's a good versatility I. Don't I. Don't think he's a very good player, but the steelers have used him. A lot of different ways inside of that slot route role is I that slot receiver role, they have used him various ways he runs a lot of screens middle. And he was a lot of things where they're like catch the ball and right. Now. That wasn't working at all in two thousand nineteen. But he wasn't bad at that in two thousand eighteen he wasn't bad at that. The year before when Ben was healthy all season when he was there all season and he was used in places where he was a running back at times, he lied up his age, but he lined up in different roles and they kind of. gave him the ball and just kind of see what he can do with it. And he did. All right. He's he's not the guy you want but. He may be the guy were stuck with. That's that's all that I would not be happy if that situation occurred I would I would much. Honestly I would straight off rather see Jalen samuels the slot receiver then have Ryan Switzer be that I think he could actually do better. But. If things fall that way, we could see Ryan Switzer in that role interesting I I like your take on that I think personally I think guys that will. Kind of explode the most under matt can I think guys play fast not necessarily half fast forties but they do think Deontay Johnson even rookie Anthony McFarland. I. Don't it's going to be i. think that's going to be really really interesting to watch just because how much speed they have and how much motion he brings a team. What does motion to do defense in Weiser important at the steelers start doing more. We we've seen that used against us. If you go back to the not the two, thousand, nine, hundred defense as much with the two, thousand, eighteen defense. We saw a lot of times where they were able to. Take running backs and put them outside of the wide receivers and take wide receivers, move them inside and all of a sudden defense that you had set up and you're like, all right we're running zone you know or or running man and Joe Hayden on the outside receiver and all of sudden outside receivers a fullback. Joe Haden and man against the fullback. Like your, that's what you have and on the inside now you had Vince Williams lined up in the slot. And the slot receiver happens to be their number one receiver. That's not a great situation and we saw that in two thousand and eighteen. It happens Kenyan Alan. Guy was absolutely terrible but. They were able to get that because of how they used motion how they used Unorthodox Setups backhanded takes it even further. Mack Canada will take it where we saw with pit especially with Maryland he's moving time and motion and all of a sudden the defense has to sit there and as those guys are moving figure out. Okay I was on that guy. Now, the way the were lined up. I'm on I'm on the okay. The Third Guy I've got recount who and as soon as they said, they snap. If you're playing a veteran team that has it all together, that can really follow the communication they're going to handle it. You're just running a different play. But. If you've got a rookie in there, if you've got someone who doesn't know what they're doing if you've got someone who's just not strong at. A Film Room. Just came out with about miscommunication on the on the two thousand and nineteen defense where showed where you know they put a guy in motion baron went to switch roles trail edmonds came down to say no, I've got the tight end you switch back to the running back. And more barren moved back but he didn't cover the running back. He just was like. Okay. I'm in the middle of the field I don't know what I'm doing here like just a momentary lapse in the running back goes out in the field. Now he's got this whole second head start before mark realize oh. Yeah that's my guy. That kind of Alaskan create a twenty yard. Did against the steelers and it set up for fuel, the cost us or we still in that game but those kind of mess ups can make a play. And it is a third down play sudden you got fresh cut to downs that can be a drive changer and that can change a game that can that can swap. L. FOR W. Any moment in a game, and then we saw him we've Seen Matt do that the college offenses defenses. We could see them pull it off in the NFL right and you know what? I think I think that's sneaky things about this higher. It makes me really excited I. Think this this. Is, injection of of talent of creativity rather on is going to be really interesting to see especially because he does something else a whole heck of a lot and that's play action. Now, what what does that bring to an offense? Who What does that do defense for those of us that that might not now? We'll play offs and Great great way to check his watch. The early season. especially. The San Francisco game where the steeler for biting on play action you had devin Bush mark Barron every play just biding on play action and George Kennel running behind them wide open if it's zone play those linebackers by stay up they stay up second they're not as deepen their zones and if you have a good fast tight end There behind those linebackers and oh? Yeah. We just we just added that kind of tight with our. which we we seriously just added the weapon that you want to take advantage of that kind of pressure being put on linebackers and it really goes along with how Matt Canada uses sweeps because adjust weep is the receiver goes into motion right before the snap and then is at a dead run when the snap happens and boom, you get the ball to really quick and they're already running. Well, that's as a kind of play action. If you could take that and go through, it's it's kind of a play action move would you use played action of that? Or you've got play action with a running back and you've got kind of a jet sweep motion going on there's all kinds of things. There's all kinds of things you can do new. York. The New York jets actually did to the steelers last year. Where they had levy on bell move out to a win position to he lined up in the slot, which loving on bell does and emotions back to running back and they had a running back slash wide receiver on their team who moved out to a wingback spy, and we treat it as a as a wide receiver and they ran this play Action Ryan to levy on bell going outside. And then turn handed off. To this guy behind that. So the steelers are pushing outside like get outside quick Levy on's going outside and guy ran behind that in a wingback, run an actual wingback run in the NFL But the very same kind of moves that we see the steelers us with those shovel passes. So. That's one way that could go down I think that's something we could look for in play action is. Just so many different directions people are looking so many different directions people are looking and it's hard to run. Plaques out of Shotgun. But if you think about it, play action out of shotgun basically is an RPO. It looks like Rpo my handing it off no I'm pulling it and I'm throwing. That's kind of play out of a shotgun. And Canada does that. Matt Canada did that with this? I say he did that with pit against Clemson. And they had a run option build and it was like it was an Rpo run with multiple runs and passes. You could see that with bad. I. Could see that with Ben where he fakes the hand off James Connor coming across you know and you've got people running around deep. But if he's got that, he can do it under the league's little shovel pass if he just wants to do that and you. Where are you covered? You don't even know what you're on defense. And one we've talked about a lot here but haven't talked about directly Eric Hebron. There's a Lotta love for him going around. He's loving it in Pittsburgh he he is. A on instagram on twitter. He's talking about how much he loves ben how much he loves. The city. And he's playing offense almost hiller made for him is are we about to see receiver that's tight end make that sorry rebutted see tight end that's going to break heath Miller's eight touchdowns in a season record four tight end. Tight end break. The thousand market is he gonNA are are really really just GonNa be a be about to watch the the awakening of Eric Broncos. He all that is, is this guy changing our offense? I doubt that back of it I expect good things from him. For offense is set up. To use a lot of the tight end as kind of a push on the defense, like we use a lot of ten fifteen yard in and out routes with our tight end just because that pushes the linebackers back that really pushes them back. That opens up the underneath routes for guys like Juju guys like Deontay Johnson, and we make those guys make a lot of yards off plays based on the tight end drawing attention. Now if you see. The running backs dry more guys up and you see more play action we could see Erkki Hebron would be amazing and that kind of thing. But from if we just plug abor Erkki brought into what we ran last season, I would not expect it. I would expect him to have really good season with Ben kind of what we saw with Vance McDonald and Jesse James in two thousand eighteen where you're effective Like eight hundred yards. I that's I'm around like eight hundred yards five to six touchdown thing with him. But it could go bigger if teams are like Okay Eric Bronze The guy we're going to cheat off of you know we're GONNA put a linebacker on Air Jebron and hope he doesn't kill us. Just. Why he's GonNa, kill you that's that's what's going to happen if it's a wide receivers are taken off Chase Clayton, we'll catch a few forty, sixty yard bombs and you've got the Andre Johnson looking like a number one receiver put up stats like he did before last season. You could see Eric Braun. Being that guy defenses on like okay. We just have to single coverage broaden hope he doesn't single handedly beat us. Right. Sorry. Cutting each other off. It's our first show. We're GONNA get. You know what? Eight hundred yards five touchdowns would be outstanding number for Eric, Brown? Yeah. Before we get out here, we're heading into the top of the hour. My my last question here there's a lot of mouths to feed in this offense. How many thousand yard receivers are we gonNA have how many thousand yard running backs we're going to. Is Impossible we've none like obviously the ball's GonNa get moved around ton. What do you think's GonNa Happen there I I think you're going to get to players thousand yards Juju. Smith. Schuster Andre Johnson Ex I think the running backs are going to be I mean if you want to count receiving end rushing yards together. Yeah. I think you could see a running back reach that by we're GONNA use multiple running backs. I don't think James Connor is going to be playing all the time in getting fat enough to really get those thousand yards. I. Think you'RE GONNA see. Eric Hebron pullout six to eight hundred events. McDonald with another five hundred, I think you're GONNA see James Washington with like five hundred yards usually a lot of guys with those numbers and we're GonNa say, Oh, you know we thought they were going to be better than they are. They're not quite as productive as we thought they were. GonNa. But that's not going to be the case this just GonNa be there. There's so many so many yards to go round. Last season we have We had four guys I think. With four three guys with four hundred, five, hundred yards. which is kind of standard. We usually do not have more than three guys with five hundred yards I. Think we've got as high as five one year when there was some injuries and Ben was mixing it up like no one had big yards. By don't expect that to be the case I think we'll see Jews you eat a lot of yards I. think we'll see D., C. Step into that clear number to roll, we'll see tight ends account for twelve thirteen, hundred yards combined. And then there's going to be running backs getting yards like it's going to be all over the place. So there's GonNa be there's GonNa be yards available but I don't think we're GONNA see a lot of a thousand yard receivers. Awesome And I think with that we're going to head on out here I'm of course, if you haven't already, you're listening to the podcast platform. Anywhere, your podcast by the way make sure to go ahead and listen to part one. If you haven't already, we chat a lot about Ben Rothlisberger and his press conference where he broke down a ton of stuff of course, both Jeffrey. Myself will be coming back to each and every week over around the same time around nine o'clock pm eastern time So it's great hanging out with you guys in the live chat It's great getting your feedback and we have a lot of fun doing this. So as we head out here, just want to thank each and every one of you for hanging out with us for my co host Jeffrey. Benedict I'm back. Thanks for tuning in will catch you guys next week. Go really quick before I get out of here. We gotTa Really Quick Superjet and I just WanNa thank Kathy Super Super Fast here says like the show everybody and marked the tape re- Juju Cathy, thank you so much for that I I guess I guess we're GonNa take off here I show I think I think that a little bit of fun. So Jeffrey thank you so much and thank you everyone in the live chat I've been Michael Beck, and you're listening to back is black or back in I don't even know is for shoulder figure it out we'll get together here.

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Steelers 1-on-1: Talking Steelers vs. Patriots with former Steeler Max Starks

Behind the Steel Curtain

35:05 min | 1 year ago

Steelers 1-on-1: Talking Steelers vs. Patriots with former Steeler Max Starks

"Steeler fans that's going on. This is jeff hartmann editor behind the steel curtain dot com. We have a special guest today for the steelers one on one segment of our program and it is none other than two time superbowl champion offensive tackle for the pittsburgh steelers max starks. He joins us with coz lance williams max how you doing tonight man i am doing well. Football is back this game week. I'm excited no more rehearsals. It's the big times and i gotta ask you real quick before we get into the patriots and steelers match atra on sunday night football. I wanna know 'cause. I'm sure you keep tabs on the steelers the team that drafted you. What's your overall impression on this team in two thousand nineteen because they lost a lot. We all nobody nobody antonio brown leaving <hes> but what are your thoughts about this team in the potential. They have this seat this season better that that's the word that i'll use. They're going to be better than last year and i say that because when you look at how the culture was before when you look at the distractions that were there before four. They're not here the antonio brown distractions are all for the raiders. That's what they signed for us. They gave him all the signing bonus for they got all that attention. Attention and the steelers have just been under the radar quietly doing good work gaining chemistry and getting better as a team so i think the word is better and i think they in cleveland are the two that content for the top of this division before we jump into the pats breakdown does that translate to them being legitimate super bowl contenders. I think it does i think i don't think that this sunday will necessarily be a preview of what december slash january january football is gonna look like but i think it lets you know the mind state in the confidence that a team can have especially if they can march in foxborough and get a victory because i think that's where are championship games going to lie at the end of the year so if you can go in there and get a warm up get comfortable mark your spot market territory and get out of there with w i think think it bodes well for them so speaking of the patriots. Let's let's jump into the breakdown require. We got you took a look at the office side of football. How does tom brady and this patriot st offense attack. This steeler defense wanted has bush bearing in a lot more speed in a two thousand nineteen dish. Well i think right now it. Just you know oh you look at where julian edelman is. I think controlling that middle of the field is going to be a lot tougher for the patriots and they have in years past. You know you look at the chargers game last season where where you didn't have the foot speed at linebacker to really keep up with those intermediate between the hash routes that keenan allen kind of feasted on last year against vince williams i think now with with the devon bush you have a guy who covers you in the quote unquote tampa two-zone l just naturally off his ability without having to play tampa too and i think that bodes very good for them. I think when you look at the tight end. I don't think the titans can really run with anybody in here so i think they can be covered. I mean the x. Factor is going to be josh it. Does josh gordon get free. When does he get his yard because we know josh warns going to get his catches and get his place and does that. Burn the steelers enough off that makes it tough on them to stay seven in the box and have to bail out a guy so that they can defend if showed me michelle wants to run the football. Let's go to the other side of the football and my question for you is you're drafting same years ben rothlisberger and he's been in the league for a really long time and there's been a lot of people live questioned him and he never called antonio brown his security blanket and he would just throw the ball up. I'm sure you have faith in rothlisberger being able to kind of execute acute an offense. It's more spread out but how do you really see rob burger in this chess match with bill belichick and the patriots defense coming up on prime time why i think this bodes well. It was probably the best match up been had a while against bella check as far as offensive weapons because bella check thrives on getting rid of your best last option and right now in the past. You've you know you think a chessboard. Antonio bounds kind of been that queen piece an and then levian bell has been a bishop so you could go for those back row guys and i feel like now. He has more frontline guys more nights at his disposal. I think that's what's gonna make it a challenges. Who am i going to take out okay. Am i going to take out juju. Well okay. I forgot there's a whole backfield with james connor jaylen samuel vinnie snap all these guys in the backfield field and then okay if i take juju now james washington has an opportunity dante moncrieff has an opportunity those guys don't forget vance. Mcdonald vance is a very strong opposite. He's like a low post defender in the middle of the field so there are too many options to really cover one guy and try and eliminate them. You're gonna have to do a great job of spreading the field and just keeping everything in front of you. Which i think is how they're going to attack. This office is try and keep it in front of you. Don't let anybody get behind you. As opposed us is showing a guy like done years past. You touched on sony michelle and the game and how steelers can contain sony michelle. Do you think they can contain him playing some package defense. 'cause i think that's probably one of the biggest keys in this game candidate play nickel and dime and survive the running game a specially when the patriots play in you know with two running backs on the field with devlin afield fullback offset. I think they have a shot but you know i still the one thing i was just the depth of the defensive line like the frontline a one aces top crew pro bowl level caliber. I worry about when you do rotate it. When guys do need a breath when they do have to four man line. Can those guys hold up can budde do pre consistently turned back the offensive tackle and set the edge to force a cutback as opposed to late in the guy gets the outside. I think t._j. Wad is good at doing that at times but it's really gonna it comes down to whoever's outside guy on the four down look can he turn selling michelle back in because that's where you're really gonna need him to be because that's where devon bush is at his best between the tackles getting an open second level devin bush can go weed out everything but if you're having him run sideline to sideline because you're ends turning the guys back in that's when it's going to be a long day now you mentioned <hes> defensively. Bill belichick likes to take away your top option. I think we'll all agree that that's juju smith. She's drew now for the steelers offense. We are gonna ask you for a game prediction here in a second but my my a question for you is if you were to predict the one player last year it was jalen samuels who crude one hundred seventy two yards total in this matchup because they just didn't account for him they were too busy focused on everyone else. Who's that player that if the steelers are going to gash the patriots offensively who's the person. You're putting your money on to do the job james washington. That's the guy is going to have a very good day under tony and i think he's going to be that slot guy. That's going to get some of the is going to get the attention because of a juju on the field and i think even if you line him up opposite juju in one situation i think they roll zone to him and they keep man on on juju so i think that's kind of where he could be a man beater and he could possibly do that if they do decide to roll zone juju. I think he could feast in that situation. Will it's prediction time everything he says. Everything says all the historical stats brady now six time world champions. It can't be defeated needed. The flags. Being dropped is opening weekend. Can the boys go in there and slay the dragon. I think this is the year that they can him just because i feel like this dragon isn't as strong a they've done too much trading in the preseason to get linemen they feel are good enough to block for brady to learn playbook and even those carnegie is a great offensive line coach still too short a time to get five men on the same page and with the chemistry. You need for tom brady. I think it's going to be tough sledding for them week one again <hes> and i think this is where the steelers we'll finally get that monkey off the back. I think this is like a thirty five twenty four game all right very good well. I want to give you a chance to let the fans. We have a lot of people watching live right now on youtube. Tell us what you're doing how they can connect with you on social media and things like that. Do we have enough time for that just joking. No here's the thing so for the next month saturdays in the afternoon on the east coast. I will be calling the next four conference u._s._a. Games for n._f._l. Network so you'll see me on the n._f._l. Network on saturdays saturday's calling the college games. You'll also hear me on sirius x._m. N._f._l. radio filling in randomly. I fact i'll be doing tomorrow night. The post game recap back after the bears packers game then starting in october probably doing s._e._c. radio for sirius x._m. Doing their friday tailgate show in the afternoons getting ready for s._e._c. saturdays and then after that you'll catch me stadium network or possibly fox sports <hes> calling some guests rather big twelve conference u._s._a. Mountain west. That's awesome stuff man lands aiming. Dad sounds like you're a busy guy last remember that awesome thank you sir. Thanks max associated. Football is finally back and nothing adds to the excitement of watching that first game like having shot at a million dollars. This draft kings the leader one day. 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Only draftkings make it rain minimum five dollar deposit required deposit bonus requires a twenty five times play through eligibility restrictions apply see dr king's dot com for details all right so big thanks to max starks out there for taking the time in <hes> spending time with steeler nation and <hes> lance and i just want to mention that we we're gonna be doing another show tonight at nine thirty pm eastern time in which case we're going to be bringing on a pats pulpit e._s._p. Nation vox media patriots creates website <hes> were bringing in one of their podcasters where a talk with him about the other side of the fence so we're we're always talking about the steelers side and what the steelers are gonna they do but i want to get the patriots perspective so we have bill phillips coming on so if you're here right now understand. We're gonna be back in a few hours to talk more steelers the patriots so if you like this content you're gonna love tonight. I'll tell you that <hes> lance from back said anything stand out. The man does some great insight. It was good. It was get area well he. He predicted them to win. Which was which was not necessarily shocking but thirty five twenty four you predicted a defensive game right for the air wow thirty five twenty four. I'm just looking at like from looking at last year's game over and over again <hes> even looking at the game the year before in two thousand seventeen steelers did not score thirty points in either warnow matchups in the one thing about the twenty seventeen game that just stood out was is just the offense of talent that the steelers and was just unbelievable in twenty seventeen. I mean you had <hes> the mr bush nikki. Get rob james for me to say hits around in that interview james connor. Mr nikki rob listed thirty fifth. <hes> martavis juju was the third wide receiver. I mean come on man. Juju smith schuster it was the third wide receiver and the and the offensive it's of line was intact that offensive talent twenty seventeen was ridiculous and they still didn't score and the thirties in that game partially because they took a touchdown off the board but may have thirty five twenty four dat dat would be a fantastic start just just just on the in the richter scale. What would it be the richter scale setting if the steelers win boxer on one thirty five twenty four i. I'm guessing like fifteen on the richter scale. It would be defcon for in pittsburgh. That's for so if we get a defcon. I want to do and get to super chat here. <hes> vernon he put four dollars the ninety nine cents in the super chat in the tip jar we appreciate it and he predicted a thirty three seventeen steelers when yikes. That's that's almost as bad as the last time. The steelers won in foxborough was thirty three to ten and that was in two thousand eight november reviewer. Call is pouring down rain. There was no been. There was no tom tom brady. That was the year that he tours aco and week one against kansas city. It was bad castle. I think ryan clark killed two players net game james hairs and kill the third <hes> that that was a thrashing. That's the last time they wanted foxborough any killed man light that game too he. He was absolutely abusing that lineups. It's like wow he he's killing. What was the guys dave. I'm i'm flooding on the name of the slot receiver ryan. He killed wes welker. I mean that's logic arching. He would have been out for like five games recipe. I mean he would have been out. Maybe half a season if he did that hit in today's current football but you you know i like. I can't really disagree with a lot that mac said i think when i look at the patriots you. I really think that this defense matches up up pretty well against them. I mean josh gorges. Obviously you know that out liar that that guy that big physical talent. That's you know even an n._f._l. Vale his talent in his physical abilities at an elite level that can wreck your game but i don't know if there's anyone else that you fear will looking at this patriots offense. You know the the thing that he said that made me kinda think to myself okay he. He predicted james washington would be the breakout player for the steelers offense and it was. It's just go just so happens today. I was doing an article on ben authors media session and he talked a lot about jalen. Samuels and i went back and looked at the box score of that that game last season eight hundred forty two yards rushing. He had two receptions for thirty years. He had one hundred seventy two years. This is the first time in his life people not pop warner taught high school not college that he rushed one hundred yards against the new england patriots in the n._f._l. And it was in ben kind of said this without saying it was because they had so they didn't know what to expect from him and they didn't really account for him and so when i heard that he was going to be that guy this year 'cause everyone set in a camera. Remember who said it in the live chat but someone did that. The patriots like to take your top two options in force you to go to a third and so james washington washington is going to be the third option. Will who's the number two option that they're taking away. Who do you think that would be lanced. We know jujubes one right. We agree on that. Yes yes says so. Here's connor it. It's it's changing you think they're going to load the box to stop the run and then bracket juju on one side lead man on the other. I think there will allocate as as few resources as possible to stop the run so if they can stop the run with a seven-man box six-man box play really light and stop the run then they stopped. Stop both six men box. The steelers should run the freaking football every single time 'cause they will run down their throat think about it is been disciplined disciplined enough to do that if he count six. If you stay out of no huddle heat has i don't think he calls the plays outside of the no huddle and if you notice outside of the no huddle against the titans wanted wanted they moved the ball when they were in the huddle and they started running the football silver me if they can stay within manageable down and distances they can run the ball in this team. I don't think i've been it. He's an upgrade and they've got another big guy on the defensive front but this dealers offensive line you know for as good as in pass protection. There also a good run blocking gain team and they can open up holes. James conner has looked really good in his limited time in the preseason. I'm just saying it just from what you said if it patriots have six in the box than ben better be checking runs. That's all i'm saying that counter toss played that they they ran last year to samuels. Newell's was was devastating against the patriots and i think actually as line i think they block best out of shocker. They huge. They absolutely absolutely that's. Why doesn't play it's not because they hate rosie next her better. They're better in the shotgun and it gives them some time. I don't know if they're the most physical line of front now. I wouldn't describe the line as rogue graders but they're angle blockers. They set guys up. They get angles <hes> and they allow running backs to create. You know sort of like a music. I mean it's it's kinda stripped down really organic and allows artists to kind of have room and freedom within the music. I think that's kind of how they block you. Don't see guys on their backs but they give backs enough room. <hes> let backs kinda slow to the hall explo- oh through and gives them their time to set stuff up. <hes> and i think their work. They're gonna work better this year i think as they're more comfortable with connors running south yeah so i think the running game is live. I think the running game has live on both sides. I mean the patriots ran well against the steelers last year. So you know it's going to be interesting. I i'm <music>. I'm kind of taken aback when he said thirty five twenty four. I was like oh wow like like i didn't. I did not think high scoring <hes> i'm not surprised at max picked the steelers to win but high scoring thirty five points at home week one bella chick i mean we've seen it with the kansas city chiefs. I mean we've seen him. Run up there and just get busy but how safe that's interesting thirty five twenty four okay. I don't wanna get too you in depth on the breakdown of where it's going to be for tonight's show at nine thirty so as eastern time by the way since nine thirty p._m. Eastern standard time is when we're going to go on from the pats pat's pulpit and we're going to talk a lot about this game afterwards the want to answer a couple of your questions before we call wrap up this dealers one on one show and take a few hour break and and then we'll get back to it so nick john ass is kelly and he's so cam kelly camera kelly at safety is he gonna be starting. It's undecided right now but i will say that it's looking waikiki will because sean davis did not practice today on wednesday. <hes> that doesn't mean that sean davis couldn't participate thursday and friday and be fine but at the same time as of right now. It's looking like either he or mike hilton. They talked about nubia. Mike hilton back to safety and having some fluid movement back there. That is an option lance. If if sean davis doesn't play how big of a deal is that <hes>. I think it's a big deal. I mean more so in base. <hes> you know given how many times they play bass days. I mean you know you know young player. You know going up against arguably the greatest quarterback of all time you know that's advantage patriots. I think there's concern there. I think you would rather have sean davis. They're back there. You know the more experienced player <hes> however you know depending on what packages that they're in. Maybe they hide him in the middle of field as a box as that box down linebacker he does that and mike helton's possibly more comfortable in the back implying that deeper deeper safety role a couple rabbit fires here read esser surprise move wasn't made for a tight end will understand that they did try to make a move they put in a waiver claim for a tight end that was released by the cardinals in their claim was denied because it was granted to the cleveland browns who are hired as nation on the waiver <hes> claim so there you go <hes> vodka drinker. He said that the injury was injury report. A report came out today or tomorrow. He came out today. <hes> only sean davis is the only the player listed for the pittsburgh steelers two missing practice and the patriots. I think the biggest name was thomas was listed limited. You know how the patriots run their reports <hes> so yeah olah redesign zola was a full participant. Yes he was so he should be getting a helmet <hes> nicholas. Here's here's one forty lands. Is it time to have trust in the secondary. Wait and see. No you put a day scofield. You've got to answer the question. I'm going to say yes but if i'm going to say yes but if they get shredded on sunday don't overreact okay. I agree. I agree and i wrote an article about that last week that said if it was a letter from the editor if the steelers stumbling week one they don't go to the committee bridge and thrust yourself off guide absolutely grilled for it. Lands people were like no. This is the biggest game of the year. I think it's week one. I know it has i know i know you're so like jeff grill. You know what it feels great that you got grill and i'm not getting ripped to shreds. Hey we'll a people getting rid a lotta times articles i read for you get ripped and i'm like i didn't even do the stupid podcasts okay and gives us five bucks in the tip choices. Do you think the steelers will still go after tight end. What do you think about that land. No time soon <hes> i think they'll let it play out for the next couple of weeks and see what happens. I gotta ask you can see on the screen right lights. Yeah yeah well yeah. I said i was sure out yet. I said i was wrong wrong wrong. But oh yeah yeah yeah it's fine. It's fine. I wanted to ask <hes> who's the guy that had the <hes> the medicinal i was going to ask the guy guy nick that ask the question a couple of questions ago that he just asked about what will he looked like. He had a cigarette or something in his mouth. Okay i ask him if that was medicinal that i've got you all right here we go. Let's have <hes> question here. Do you feel that facing the patriots in week. Guan will be an advantage for the steelers in other words lack of tape on the new look defense offense etc. No i don't think so because you have i i mean arguably the greatest quarterback of all time i mean he's seen everything there's not going to be too much. You can fool him with and if you do it like thomas said earlier this week in his press conference and i know you're impressed jeff. I listened to a press conference way things you heard this one. Yes i yes you heard some great tomlin 'isms he called john hargrave the grave blockbuster bluster. Yes you gotta diversify. I was like wow that's hilarious. I'm sitting here at work laugh when he said you had red paint. You painter barn red the s. Those were those were but it is press conference. He basically said look. You can't fool twelve that often and if you do it's wants me too much. 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I think conor gets a few extra yards not a ton but you know conroe squeak out for five extra run after contact. Samuels is pretty elusive <hes> so i think those are the three yeah i mean samuels and connor don't forget those guys yards after the catch i mean it's it's from the backfield typically bit <hes> it'll be interesting. I have to ask you about your thoughts on <hes>. I'm i'm sure you saw the news that mr third and fifth to his instagram story with his <hes> fine amounts and tagging the raiders. I mean that's a a man that got to i mean he's. He's a tempting people to eat tempting the team to cut of. I feel like this young people. If there's anybody young <music> out there listening to the program or you know he is giving you valuable lessons in what not to do how to not ingratiate ingratiate yourself to a new employer. I mean if anything like you can learn from him. What not to do everything that he is doing. Is what you should not to do and it what it what it looks like to me. It's what you said a couple of weeks ago. I don't think he wants to play football. I think this is not. It's something that he loves anymore. I think this is a job <hes> and it's it's for a means to another end. Which is his self promotion not necessarily winning but if you've noticed using all the commercials he's been in all like there's an n._f._l. Commercial whose at least had a cameo. I'll give you a hint. He plays dealers juju. Yes he's everywhere. He's on the cover of sports illustrated straighted this week i mean this guy is everywhere and i guarantee you. It's eating mr third and fifth alive. I've i've had it is killing killing earliest sure i mean what he's failed to realize is that and it took me years to realize that because i always used to say no that doesn't matter bob la likeability matters mid likeability matters. It's hard to measure and it's hard to know if people if people arguing you as a likable person not i'm not saying that people should go out and try to be likable but man being likable helps and antonio brown is coming off as a capital t. at the u. as the are and the d. absolutely consider. Here's a here's a question i am. I'm not avoiding these patriot questions that are being watch right now. I just kind of want to save someone for tonight. Show oh so there are some questions that aren't related about the upcoming game that i wanna get lances perspective on like heaven's question. What do you think about hines ward being a part of the jets as an assistant coach coach. He's the assistant to the wide receivers coach. What are your thoughts on that that kind of sad. It's not the only seen him no. No i saw a completely different on it as an opportunity opportunity for him to cut his teeth with a different organization. Get some experience and given that ray. Sherman is the temporary wide receiver coach. Maybe now that highs has cut his teeth is work you he will have worked at a building for a year. That might be an opportunity to bring him back next year as you you know in assisted o._c. And possibly not assistant wide receiver coach impossibly wide receiver coach so let him go cut his teeth somewhere else and come back into the building eating with that experience but here's the thing on sherman. Did you know that he was a coach for randy. Moss chris carter <hes> te'o oh and i think there was one more hall of fame wide receiver that he was their whole wide receiver coach. I was like wow he coached three hall of famers and chris carter on his show went out to say look the loss you know he knew darryl drake and he he he gave his condolences and so on and so forth but he said from a coaching perspective if the steelers aren't losing anything <hes> in fact that you know getting sherman as having sherman and building was just <hes> the godsend for them given his ability really gave a strong vouch for sherman and his ability to be a wide receiver coach yeah absolutely <hes> brockway. Just someone brought a dance mcdonald in the upcoming game <hes> if you were to guess in predicts his stat line what do you you think it would be sunday night week. One what's vance. Mcdonald's stat line must say six targets k four catches agree with that and i'm gonna say sixty yards no touchdowns really i want to say i want to say fifty two. I wanted to say thirteen yards catch so i said four receptions so yeah. I'm gonna go fifty two yards thirteen yards. Catch no touchdowns. That would be a bad day icy yeah. That wouldn't be a bad. I could see that being week one yeah especially that he's played. He's a player people forgetting about to be on that guy that ripped me about my next yeah. I said they will be. I was wrong about joe hayden's extension darren. I think yeah. I think it was when i'm right about vance vance's stats. I want some love in the super chat between you and him and there's a lot of people thinking. He is going to have a big game. Someone said five catches seventy yards someone said five for eighty and a touchdown targets ten targets seven receptions for ninety six touch. Sh targets whoa i i don't i don't know of anyone not named you will get ten targets in this offense much. It's i audience. I think it's gonna be more spread out yeah. I don't think any tightening ten targets wants last year so i doubt it not with not with mr. Flaky defeat miss the thirty fifth. There's no way him at least thirty targets a those guys eight up targets last year okay last question here before we call the show and then we'll see you back here in a couple hours for those watching live on youtube. Do you think the steelers should split carries between connor and samuel's or lease spell connor more often to try to help his longevity no. I don't think you should do fifty fifty fifty fifty fifty fifty but you remember when when butt cut naked rob was here he was three downs never left the field and even james carter last year was three downs never left the field. I don't think fifty fifty is realistic right but do you see them saying hey take the series off and let jalen samuels go in. What are your thoughts on this. Show a while back. Yeah i said it the steelers will run the tires off of james connor. That was the title and i think they will. I think that's in mike tomlin's wheelhouse. That's what he's about. He's about keeping the best players was on the field to play the maximum amount of snaps where i think you may see jaylen. Samuels is as a replacement for exam your grumble as the second tied in good question freelance he said why is everyone afraid to call people by their proper names. It sounds like high school well. There's some guys don't want to talk about on this show but we do want to talk about it. We just don't want to say their names so get it. I get it. I understand yeah. There's some guys we don't want to say their name and it and we have to think of creative way to say some guy number one. We're not going going to say has to be more creative than that. I agree <hes>. There's some ways you can identify that guy 'cause he was traded for third and fifth and he had flaky feet so <music> owned the other guy got robbed vitality butt naked women yes i i mean those are facts so we're not making those things hashtag facts block. We're blocked by one of those two individuals so yes yes. Yes the super-sensitive one all right. This is bad as long as the show to go this show so this is going to wrap up our steelers one on one segment. We thank max. Thanks for joining us <hes> for about fifteen minutes to start the show if you missed it. If you're just joining us you can go back and watch. It's at the very beginning. He kicks off the show with us. It was a really good way to kick off this week. We will be back tonight on youtube. You'd hear some audio platforms probably later on tonight. Is i upload it. Were early tomorrow morning and will be on with <hes> spo- phillips for pats pulpit. We'll get his take on this upcoming game. We'll get his prediction and we will obviously breakdown the upcoming steelers patriots skin and get your questions ready because we're going to be doing a q. and a. segment so lance. Send us off. You always do my man as always listeners tune in telephone and subscribe arrive all right. 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Steelers Injury Report, Week 13 vs. The Washington Football Team: Thursday Update

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Steelers Injury Report, Week 13 vs. The Washington Football Team: Thursday Update

"Pittsburgh steeler fans. What's going on this jeff. Hartmann kill editor of behind a steel curtain dot com with you for a friday. But it's the second day as the pittsburgh steelers report. I'm sorry they're going to practices. They actually returned to practice for the first time since her wednesday game against the ravens. They're getting ready for the washington. Football team at heinz field on monday five pm kickoff and while washington's off since thanksgiving day pittsburgh's on short rest so yesterday i was with you on thursday for the very first injury report. Any was a if they would have practiced. They called an estimated injury report so today they actually returned to the practice field. So now we're actually talking about players that are going to suit up on monday. They were potentially going to be on the field. No you're not gonna hear names. Like james conner. Marquees pouncey Stefan to gerald hawkins others players on the reserve covid lists are not going to be listed here because they're on the reserve lists that they're not going to be a part of this list however everyone that was able to practice had that opportunity today. Let's run down. I the estimated injury report that was december. Third thursday remember. They did not practice but if they would have roethlisberger would have gotten the day off. So would have david decastro alejandro villanueva. Eric ebron tyson mellow cam. Heyward and vince williams. They all would have gotten the day off now. It is worth noting the then rothlisberger his designation. It was not injured related slash knee. So more or less. That's the steelers covering the rear end. In case rothlisberger s to miss some time later in the season or if he's missing practice time they can't dating the nfl can't come back on pittsburgh and say you'd never reported this knee as a problem. We're gonna find you. Were in a docu draft picks. They got hot water a couple years back with lady on bell when he had that groin injury going into the two thousand sixteen. Afc championship game. I believe and they never reported. So i think they got fined for that. So they're probably just covering their bases here. But he would not have practiced steven nelson would not have practice with a knee. Jalen samuels would have been limited with his quadriceps. So let's now get up to present day. Friday december fourth. Everyone was given a day off on thursday. Technically 'cause they didn't actually practice but everyone that would could return to practice. Did except for rothlisberger. Now i gotta be honest dave scofield other co editor behind a steel curtain dot com. He will send me these images as he's doing the article. His one of his jobs is to do the report for buying the steel curtain dot com. So he sends me this image and all of a sudden. I'm looking i'm like. Oh my gosh. Even send them a message saying wow benz not bend in practice today. And he said don't worry. The same thing happened last week when they had a day where they was an estimated injury report the day after he did not practice. It is worth noting. Rothlisberger did speak to the media today. He was in practice gear. I'm sure he was out there. Throwing moving around. He was out there with the team but he just probably wasn't taking a lot of individual reps. I would fully prepare yourself for saturday to see a full participation from ben rothlisberger in no game status but then again you never know jalen samuels would have been limited on thursday. He was a full participant on friday. That means it's steven nelson with a knee and rothlisberger. Both those players not participate with nelson. You have to wonder i mean. That's he had an mri on his knee. That was reported thursday. Mike tomlin's press conference and i know one. I have not heard the results of dad nonetheless. He has not been going on. He has not been placed on injured reserve. So i'm not sure what that'll tell us. Stay tuned behind the curtain dot com and our audio platform for his status. We'll see with that turns into now let's go to the other side of the docket. We're looking at the washington football team washing like i said it's had a lot of time off. Thursday december third. Their injury report was very minimal. Defendant ryan anderson with a knee was limited tackle. Morgan moses for the groin was limited. Everyone else was a full participant. Now on friday ryan anderson went from limited to full morgan moses with a groin limited to full everyone else's full except for this was a name that popped up wide receiver terry maclaurin. That's a big name is a really good young receiver folks ankle limited. I don't know how he tweeted that ankle if it's if it serious or if it's just something they're being you know. Very cautious with. That's the name. Keep an eye on other than that for the for the washington football team. They look like a pretty healthy team but maclaurin name keep an eye on that. So when i look at these injury reports to be totally honest with you when i look at the steelers and they have everyone back and it seems like everyone's healthy. You don't have joe biden. Joe haden with his knee. That was bothering him. After the jaguars game he even said today. Friday when he spoke with the media that if the game would have been on thanksgiving or even on sunday. There's a good chance he would not have been able to play against the baltimore ravens. But because the game got push back he was able to play and and behold he had a pick six. It was one of two touchdowns at the steelers scored during the game. So you just juju. Smith schuster has been hampered with foot ankle and knee injuries. He hasn't been on the list. It really looks like the steelers are going to be full. Go barring something unforeseen and maybe just not having to deal without having steven nelson if they don't have steven nelson. This is a question that a lot of people are wondering if they don't have steven nelson line up. What did they do. Thankfully neither team can say this but the steelers have options so one of the options that they could do is if they trust justin lane. Second year cornerback out of michigan state. If they trust him enough to be on the outside they could put him out there. And just basically say we're going with reduce the same exact evens we always do except without nelson. Now it's lane that's it. That's an option doesn't mean that's what they're going to do but it's an option and other option they have. Is they put cam sutton on the outside making keep kim sudden fourth year player at a tennessee. He has experienced both in the slot. He has experience in the dime and nickel outside. They could put him out there and then what they could do is if they have their dime package out there. They could move cam sutton into his normal spot in the diamond for just on the outside it really comes down to how many moving parts as a defense wanna have if they have to move to many people then. That's that can be a problem. This is a similar scenario that the steelers faced for shoot five or six weeks. I think maybe there's a little maybe four or five weeks. When mike hilton with a shoulder injury he was out. Well when everyone thought cam son was just gonna fill land. But sometimes they move steven nelson sloppy for justly on the outside. They have options. Okay very deep for once in the secondary will what they have concocted for this upcoming Game keep remind myself. It's a monday game. Five pm kickoff heinz field monday afternoon. Football washington football team will be coming into town. It'll be a good game. I think that this is a good test for the steelers. Especially when you think about the fact that the washington football team does get after the quarterback they are up there in the top five in terms of sacks the pittsburgh steelers obviously number one but the washington does it without having to blitz a lot they just rushed for the question is can their secondary. Cover the steelers weapons. That's the biggest question that you have to ask now. It looks like they won't have james conner looks. They won't have marquees pouncey. Barring something unforeseen those probably out to it's probably still out. We don't know if these players when i'm talking about those reserved. Kobe list if they were a if they knew someone tested positive if they tested positive themselves so they could potentially come off the list or they could stay on. I'm gonna guess it. All of them are going to be out for this upcoming week. Thirteen game they'll probably return before they play in buffalo in week fourteen on sunday night football in new york in buffalo. So keep that in mind. All right folks. I will be back on saturday for the final injured before leading up to the game. That's when you'll get the final days practice report as well as the game status so make sure wherever you get your podcast. You follow us at school play. I tunes apple podcasts. Stitcher anchor pandora. You name it spotify. Spotify guy follow. Subscribe whatever you gotta do also make sure behind the steel curtain dot com. Is your one stop shop for all things steelers. I'm jeff hartman. Co editor of said website. In the meantime folks be safe. Be kind and god bless go dealers.

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BTSC Steelers Post-Game Show, Part 1: One dimensional Steelers offense falls flat in Buffalo

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BTSC Steelers Post-Game Show, Part 1: One dimensional Steelers offense falls flat in Buffalo

"From labra doodles to grow nuts the world of hybrid so today businesses are taking a smarter hybrid cloud approach using the tools platform and expertise of ibm. The world is going hybrid with ibm visit. Ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud pittsburgh steeler fans going on. This is jeff. Hartmann co editor behind the steel curtain dot com with with you for another episode of the steelers post game. Podcast in folks were on the wrong side of the streaks. Now all of a sudden we're in well some some really bad spaces mentally and physically for the steelers fan base. The steelers lose was a twenty six to fifteen when a weird score. That was They've lost back to back games now to obviously washington football team. We thirteen now the buffalo bills week. Fourteen we're going to die like we always do here on the post game. Podcast joining me as always podcast producer. Brian davis going on brian. Hey fellas to be here with you. Wish was better circumstances man. That game sucked yes. It did. And the other co editor of the website. Days goldfields going on. Dave waited all day for that. Yeah yeah yeah here. We're gonna go. Where and start off the knee-jerk reactions here the second. But i just want everyone to know there are so many. There's so many questions surrounding this team. We're going to do the best. We can to try to answer them and to be honest with you. A lot of we can't answer. No one can answer them other than those that are in the locker but let's start with his knee jerk reactions like we always do brian. Anthony davis let you go first. Go ahead that was one dimensional. it was unimaginable. They i mean there was no imagination whatsoever at the beginning of that game. You know everybody said well. You gotta get a running game going so hack. Let's get a running game going in running all the time on first down after the first series and the draft started again at the beginning you know it seems like no lessons were learned. It's just it's feels like the sky is falling certainly. Does dave go at knee-jerk reactions. Yeah the sky is falling. You had the bat offensive performance against baltimore and you're like It was a weird week. Then they had the bat offensive performance against washington. And i was like It was a short week. You know and i kept convinced you know. Start off saying no. There's a problem and then slowly convince much else you know. It's not a problem. This nineteen to seventeen to fifteen from a team that was at one point averaging over thirty points a game. This is a problem. This is a major problem. And i don't know that there's any easy fix. I don't know that. There's a complex. Fix i don't know if there's a fix in twenty twenty Other than just you know i. I don't think it's going to be something where they're going to be able to out scheme any kind of weaknesses because it seems like scheme is part of the problem so i think this is a for for my knee jerk reaction which i i did. Put this on twitter right after the game I i i said how to me. This is a team that needs an overhaul of certain aspects of the team. Okay you can talk about the running game. You can talk about the approach like brian. Did they need an overhaul c. Three weeks to get it done now. Mike tomlin said in his postgame press conference if he thinks. That's plenty of time to get it done. I'm not so sure. I agree with that because now the sudden it's not just a matter of scheme is not just a matter of play calling now. It's a matter of do. We even have the players to get this overhaul dot. The steelers had a ton of injuries in this game. At one point as you're mad feiler was lost with what they call a shoulder during the game. But after the game. Mike tomlin labeled as a pectoral injury it was the same story for kevin dotson who filled in for him We saw gerald hawkins starting at right tackle as to core four was tended to on the sideline alex high smith left the game with an injury. he was able to come back in. It did not look like t. J. watt was one hundred percent He certainly was definitely not what in terms of the high motor guy that we know he is. That's the issue with me. We all know this stuff needs to change but now the question is is do. They even have the players to make those changes. Won't we won't know until we see what some of these injuries look like if dotson and Filer put on the ira. Then they're in big trouble. They are in big trouble for a lot of different reasons. Let's get to the super chat here mark davidson. He's a podcast. Refer behind the curtain dot com. He said that was a rough game to watch. Even my dog knew what offense to play was about to be called pre snaps. Thank you very much. It's very predictable. I know i didn't say that it is. It is very predictable. It is very predictable. So we're gonna do our best to try and figure out what the heck's going on here and maybe throughout this process will be able to figure out where the steelers should focus their attention moving forward. They're already in the play offs. They secured a playoff spot today while the kansas city chiefs feeding the miami dolphins down in south beach. But it sure doesn't feel like there's anything to celebrate. We'll put it that way so let's start off with our grades like we always do out. Let's get to the super jet for steel dog ages. Five dollars five dollars if we keep playing like. This will be out first round of the playoffs yet. No one's going to disagree with you there. No one is at all. Trust me all right. Let's get this show on the road. Ben rothlisberger where we always start. He finished his twenty one for thirty seven. One hundred eighty seven yards had a five point. One average two touchdowns two interceptions. None was bigger than the pick. Six at the end of the first half. He did get sacked one time. He had a rating of sixty five point. Nine guys this was ugly at times. How would you grade ben rothlisberger. Brian will start with you. I love ben. But last week i gave him a lower grade and i got a lot of flack for it. I kid not excuse his play. He didn't have as many drops this week as he did. The last two weeks. He had some drops. I get it but that didn't cause eater. The second interception i thought was bad too Some people call for pass interference. On that play wasn't called didn't matter to picks they were debilitating debilitating starts with the d. Give him a day. All right david grade. I don't know that i'll go. As bad as it d- i'll say c. minus Simply because i don't. I don't wanna put more on him than what should be on. Play calling. I mean i would i. We don't know because because it seems like every time that something goes right people taking credit for it and when things go wrong. It's always someone else's fault even when you're talking about your offensive coordinator so until we really know. I don't wanna put it all on ben but the deep throws are not there the one the second interception i mean he had him he just couldn't get the ball there I don't know if ben age wise and everything if he's just worn down by the season or what's really going on but the the deep ball wasn't there the intermediate throws didn't seem to have the big zip on it seems like left with this is short throws and if that's all you can do then then you've got to execute them perfectly every play and that's also actually difficult do. So i'll go with the c minus. I'm going to go the d. Because that i gotta be honest. I'm shocked I during this year with as many of the short very predictable out routes that they run a lot of. I'm shocked. They hasn't had an hasn't happened yet. It was a horrible time for that to take place shocked. Doesn't having. I'll go with the d- here's a question that's on everyone's mind. And this is a five dollar tip from william hall. Thank you very much. He said this. Ben look right. Let me put this another way. Though guys. his arm shot period is arm. Shot brian ethan. I still don't think so. I don't think it's it's shot. He's not getting help with the running game. he has to do more with arm. But i think it's still there. Okay dave we think that the health of ben rothlisberger arm. It's not what it used to be. I think everyone knows that. It's i'm going to say it's not. I can't say it's not a concern. I can't say that all adds fine. It's i i can't. I don't see we could see that especially when you look at. Who was the ball you know on on from the other team in the way he was throwing the ball out there just. I really don't know what to think anymore with this. I you know we keep saying all the steelers will bounce back. And they're not. It's going in the wrong direction. Yeah it's pretty bad when the it seems like they're playing into the narratives hands of you know. Oh this is the worst eleven. Oh team in nfl history and we all scoffed at it and said oh come on. It's pretty bad. It is pretty bad and it starts with ben. That's for sure all right. Let's go to the next position as we always do. The running game is another great effort for the pittsburgh. Steelers running the football. They rushed for a whopping forty seven yards on seventeen carries for great average of two point. Eight that's going to help their overall average james conner ten carries for eighteen yards. Jalen samuels four for fifteen in benny snell. Three for fourteen Mike tomlin bemoaned the lack of time and the way that the game played whatever. How do you grade the running backs. Brian goatee i f. I mean it was a failure. They can't do anything with that. Running game everybody there. one dimensional. And that's the name of this podcast there. You know they were barely one dimensional today but being one dimensional means that everybody knows what they're going to have to then they say all right. Let's try to fix it with the running game. That's just not there. I you know. I i applaud you trying to get it going but it is not there and we keep on saying. I am very guilty of it saying every single week. Don't worry it's going to be okay. They're going to get it together. When connor comes back. Connor came back. Nothing was right. So i mean you guys could come out and and give it a d give it something like that but there was no redeeming qualities to this running game. That helped them do anything tonight. So it's got to be an dave which grade this the running backs right line running back. That's i'm going to say a d. minus. Because i've seen that it could be worse from the running backs and also i'll get well. I'll get to that when we get to the line i'm gonna say he is. I'm gonna say d- because believe it or not. I thought the jalen samuels and benny snell actually had some decent runs. Someone said it on twitter. I can't take credit for it. They said everything that the steelers get via. The running game is one hundred percent. Improvisation in that is of one hundred percent. There's never a whole thinking. I think one time. I think jalen simmons had a nice run where it looked like it was designed run. The whole was there. He hit the whole north and south and it look the way. It should the steelers as that. They just don't do it. they don't scheme it well. They don't block it well but the backs also don't see it that well at times there were. There were a couple of moments where benny snell was looking like he was getting warmed up and then there were still someplace where it looks like. There's a crease. He should just hit the crease. Get north and south. Get your five six yards any trying to stretch it out. He's not that type of player. The offense of playcalling. Not helping they run. A has what we used to call the middle school student body right like a sweep right to jalen samuels. If i'm running a sweep i'm not going to run it with jalen samuels. I'm gonna hope we have. Anthony mcfarland back there. But he was inactive. So i just don't get a lot of this. I'll give the rugged the running backs de i'll give him a d Let's hear freaking geeks. Media gives us five dollars as being one. Dimensional is fine until your opponent takes that one dimensional way. And that's exactly what's happening with the steelers these past few weeks. Good point so let's go to the running the offensive line run blocking. Let's do that next before we get to the receivers brian. What are you grade. The offense vine running the football luck. If i'm going to go ahead and give the running game and a half. I've got to give the run blockers enough to you know you. You guys gave the the running backs. minuses indies. Because i know where you're going with this next because you're blaming more on that i blame it on. Its the unit as a whole. It's both fifty fifty to me. All right dave what are your what do you think okay. It's an f minus minus. Because and i tweeted this out. I don't know if it was halftime or somewhere around. Then it's tough. Today was my mom's birthday. And i had to call her at halftime. So can't remember if that's what it was or not happy birthday mom. But i have to say this. Is you know there's a problem with your run game plan while the run is still happening. You're seeing multiple offensive linemen standing and watching. You're seeing multiple offensive linemen standing and watching while the running back is still trying to scoot around and run for his life k. Finish the play. Get on your guy and stay on your guy and keep blocking them until the whistle blows this stopping and standing and looking around stuff. That was extremely one of the frustrating. Things i saw from this game was the number of times. The offensive line is playing too high because they're used to playing high. Because that's how you drop into dropped back to pass protect. They play too high in the run game. And they don't stay on finish their blocks and you see and it wasn't the same guy every time that you see at the end of a play on offense lineman standing and watching somebody. I'm going to say that I'm going to give him an f. As well i kind of us. Sometimes run blocking is like tackling for a defense. Is you have to wanna do it. You gotta have that attitude in. They definitely don't have that attitude so i'll give them an f. We have some super chas to get here. Benjamin porter. i'm sorry. Potter gives four ninety nine. He's at yet another end of the half disaster to change the whole momentum of the game. He's obviously referring to the washington game where they basically gave them a time out a. It's bad it's it's. There's no other way rounded andrew. Palladino gives us five dollars is. I'm sad you guys said i. I'm i'm not happy. I'll put it that way. I'm not sure. If i'm sad guys are he said i'm demoralized there. That's that's a great way to put it. Which is an extension of sad sad frustrated. All those things tied up in the one the more lives. It's not fun gay so my melania joke is four ninety nine. I hate that. My supervisor is a kansas city fan and ought to hear his bs for a while. Still steelers nation love. Y'all good night. Thank you very much. The tip appreciated. It's gonna be rough when you're undefeated and you're talking all that smack and then all of a sudden you get smacked around two weeks in rose. Not fun cody marsh. Because it's five dollars is too many things to blame for the loss. Hilton's pass interference draw passes on third down early Let's just aboard the ron. It's not happening this year. There's a lot to digest with his team. That is for sure no fans or buts about that but if you just abort the run then you're then the quick pass is never going to work. And that's the only thing that they had going for him. You can't just stop everything if you wanna mental and they take that one to mention away then you're really in trouble and the more you can't do the things easier to take away the money one dimension. Jock advocate william. Hogg is five dollars. He said what needs to change. And can we fix it I think that you're seeing as we go through these grades. It obviously the offense blinds a big problem. we'll get to that a little bit more here as we go into the passing game. So let's talk about the receivers and let's go down through those numbers Juju smith schuster finishes with six catches on fifty five yards. He did have a touchdown on seven targets. Diontae johnson four catches for forty yards on seven targets. He had another two drops on the game. Eric ebron two catches for thirty yards on five targets. He had a drop also on third down. James washington three for twenty nine another touchdown. That's back to that. Gains for james washington. Jalen samuels three for eighteen chase. Claypool three for fifteen Let's grade the receivers guys. Let's go with brian. I which are great. You know what let's go with a c. Plus here and that's that's pretty tough to do. But let me say this. I in a we talk about the drops early on. They happened in the first couple a series then they they stopped. I thought you had a good game wasn't targeted. A whole heck of a lot. After i mean i think those six catches were probably on six targets Maybe he had one. That didn't go as well. The the pick goes way. That's that's definitely a problem there. I mean i thought they were better. Sure i can. I can give them a better a mark but it's tough to because maybe they're not getting open as much either. I will say this to a guy. I love this team. I love all these guys. Including the guys of i've been blasting for the drums but i will say this chase claypool. I think is fantastic. Has hit a rookie wall. And he is really not much of a factor The last the last three weeks at least and they're not getting anything from him. James washington was playing like a champion. I think i think juju smith schuster is playing very well to. I will actually put my hands together and applaud the johnson for the way he played when got back in that game. the same. eric. Ebron because eric ebron was missing a little bit too. It wasn't as glaring as diontae. Johnson they but the problem being is why did it half the take for my gosh serious. He benched us for a little bit to get those. Get the case the drops. He's out of the way. This message should have been heard at the end of the baltimore game. It wasn't it definitely should have been hurt i would. I would have went home. Scared to death in completely demoralized years. Not a lot. If i heard that message why did it take so long. So i'm gonna go ahead and give them a c. They did some good. Things wasn't good enough though. I would y you dave. This was really tough because last week you felt that the receivers weren't really. I mean they were really letting their quarterback down this time they did early but it was more of a mutual agreement. This time if you know what. I mean i mean. I do think there was times. They could've may be fought for some balls a little more but at the same time. I don't think they were on especially on the some of those deeper throws a couple of claypool washington. I don't think they were really were. They needed to be that they could go fight form so it just it just all seemed at a sink and when you're out of sync your wide receivers. That's just kind of what you're going to get. I'm gonna give them. I'm gonna give him a c plus. 'cause i don't think that they played i mean terrible other than the early drops but how can you really give anything i mean. Honestly i'm i'm i'm gonna change it c minus because so much of this game was on offense coming up not doing their part. How can you really give that creative agreed to any party office. I'm going to give them a d. Based on the fact that what is offense has become what is morphed into is an offense that it cannot withstand any negative plays at all and includes drops into that puts an extra Onus on the receivers to always have to play out of their minds essentially and they didn't they didn't especially early in this game that's going to give him a d. steel dog. Ada gives us two dollars thoughts on giving up before the half one minute ago. Guys which our thoughts on that brian. He's referring to after the pick six or is about a minute left. They had two time outs. They elected to just kind of ride it out so i've got to buddies that are brothers. That i- texts to in the middle of the games all the time and i shocked them. Because i'm the eternal optimist of the group. And i'm one of the guys that i was so angry about that i really was and i wrote two words. One starwood chicken and i'm not going anywhere. Were else from there. You use your imagination. I thought it was a cop out. I thought you know what you've got a minute left you get to. I know they didn't get the down on first and second and they were saying. Oh with a timeout. So going gonna wait. Now come on get three out of that. Show some show some patchett. They didn't lived in their fears. Yeah dave thoughts. That's a tough one. Just because after give it up the pick six and the defense ruling that first half and then you're going to roll into half-time down because your offense allowed them to score. That's i mean i could. I could see it either way I i wasn't that torn up about it. But at the same time i would have been. I would've felt all right if they'd at least oh my goodness if they would've actually had to punt the ball back really would have been furious if you know what i mean. So part of me is like maybe that was the right call. Well but the problem was is like he just said the defense had been dominating the entire half and so i can see both sides of the coin will put it that all right. Let's get to the super chats. Macho gives us eleven dollars and two cents. He says playoff. I secured in the by seemingly unlikely with how we're playing. What would what would wins going forward Help with obviously. They're they're wins but why not rest starts with a k. Hypothetically saying basically saying with the playoffs already locked up. What's what is the good for even seating basically. Why don't we just rest. Certain guys and then get through the regular season and hopefully be good for the playoffs. I don't necessarily buy into that logic not the way they're playing okay. I don't think there's anyone on that team that should be able to say rests up for the postseason. There's a lot of. There's a lot of so figure out loud to sofi cams are x. Gives us four. ninety ninety. says the rest of the bengals next monday. Get back on track. The whole team look gas. Nothing like playing the bungles. Get right You can look at it that way. Some can say that this is the final leg of that. Three games in twelve days stretch. Maybe they just need a week to kind of get right back track not not so much from a though they're gonna play the bengals which i mean that doesn't hurt but also the fact that they're actually going to have a regular week this week for the first time in a long time so i will say all right. Let's go to steph. She says last like last week if not even losing that stinks. How lost if we've moved the ball and lost by three. But you have something to build on. I think that's kind of the sentiment here. It's not just the fact that they're losing. Its how they're losing. It's just ugly. it's ugly there's so many different issues. just awful awful five dollars from m. f. n. royalty next game should be bounced back. We'll be okay here. we go steelers. Go love the optimism. Normally don't have that your extra. What can i say something real quick. We just got conduct box. Come on august holidays. They're trying to get to all. These aren't to begin us. Four ninety nine hundred. I feel like it's time for a culture change. I'm at the point where ben needs to call it. Steelers still holding onto that big band era. That is gone. I don't know we'll see Adrian schism four ninety nine cents from. Cvs quote ben with a knee problems. Do you think he's playing with major knee issues. I sent this to dave The link rpm. I the previews slack channel and that was a report from jason lockenfora. And he said there's some sources in the log in the steelers organization that are worried about his knees I other than the fact that in the dallas game. He left the game early at the end of the first to get his knees checked on And then the week that he didn't practice there's been no reports of any issues at all now. I'm sure thomas had asked about it but guys. Are you concerned about his knees at all. Brian there can always be a concern. But then i look at the source. And i see jason lockenfora and look jason robards. Jason miranda's jason seaver played by the great alan thicke would be more credible than jason lockenfora at this point so it didn't seem like his knees were the problem. I don't know dave any concern there. What is funny. Because i actually saw that report before you did and i did not send it out because of the source. That's why they need to check it to your so he's been kind of known to you know and been called out with several steelers things that he says i've had this source and people were saying I don't know it is what it is all right here. We go. let's go to coil. God eight something a ten dollars. Thanks very much. The bungles will be the last one of the season one and done in the playoffs will go down the biggest months of the year because we had it all then gave it away. I don't know if we gave it away. If they do go down is that it might just be because well banged up. I'll tell you that they're banged up. Mantra gives us another eleven dollars two cents. If you guys want another dollar the team better get a w next week. Weiguang injuries really sticking their heads out late. This season need next up to really start stepping up Yes so that's absolutely couldn't have been more. Thanks everyone for the tips we appreciate. It goes towards things. like getting. New microphones podcasters. Cool stuff like that are giveaways. We'll use the money for that so we appreciate all the love for that Absolute let's go on with the pass. Blocking ben. roethlisberger was sacked. I look at the past. The quarterback hits five quarterback hits buffalo. Did guys ahead. it will vote why you give. The grades wanted to chime in on this as well. Someone else on twitter said this. And i i tend to my knee-jerk reaction was to disagree but then i thought edna us thought myself. This actually might be true that the offensive line can't run block. They're not good enough to run block and they're not good enough to pass walk long enough for rothlisberger to throw the ball down the field guys. You think that's true. In what a grade but i wanna hear your thoughts are on the fact of is this past blocking line really that good or they had it set up so that they don't have to block that long. Brian will start with you. You know what. I can't really discount that i'm really. Can't you know this is tough. I'll give david answer. I can't confirm or deny that now. We're really what. I'm thinking to your. You know. that really could be. But it's being masked because he is getting it off. So i mean that's an assumption at this point but it makes a lot of sense so i i really can't. It's hard for me to make a judgment on that but it brings up a lot of merit. Let's put it that way daily. Think that's a. That's a valid point. I mean with the state was the steelers offense throughout through most of the season. Really just covering for weaknesses. Were they running the things that they were doing because they were covering up a weakness in the run game. They're coming up a weakness in throwing the long ball. Maybe i didn't see my dad that early in the season i mean they just weren't completing them. If you know what. I mean i mean are they. Are they covering up the weakness to maintain a block in a in the passing game. It's hard to say because it seems like there were frustrated with everything that the steelers are doing offense because it's the same kind of thing but are they. Is that what they're doing because they can't do any other stuff. That's what i can't figure out. It is not an offense that impose their will on the other team at all not at all day. Did you grade the pass blocking. But i didn't i. I don't know i did not either. It's hard to grade because you know. Usually you give pretty high grade because they weren't that bad but yet they're still a loss in if that is contributing to the problem. We don't know it. Let me give him a c plus then all right dave. That's it. I said see again. I didn't hear him give agassi. We'll give the see. What the heck. There's a see someone gave us another one of the super stickers. This looks like an june. It's like a pair. The headband rolling laughing. What does that seventy eight age game. I don't know but you know when when you look at the conversion it's not that it's not that much or else it would be yellow so probably around. The five dollar range gives us to ninety nine. The line is a problem. Yeah i think that's pretty. That's pretty clear at this point in time Let's see her flash twenty three us five dollars if we had all three phases working against cleveland. What happened. i don't know lear. Seek is four hundred nine hundred. I can't deny that the lines huge liability right now healthy they were not dominant now. Banged up it's tough. It's going to be really tough to watch here in the next coming weeks because it's almost the whole team is at a gas. It seems like it while they had a bye week for short of again. Shane van hayden get his five dollars. Ben as been able to extend plays even when the rush gets in the fact that he is not doing that now seems like it's on him. Not the align k. It's it's a theory. Would theory will put a deli christian. Cayugas is five dollars in connor's best year was with knicks. Run run georgia where report guards in have connor. Trail watt also klay massey climate. He's would be nice for giving the linebackers arrest. There's a lot of banged up players on this team. And i feel like sometimes the have actually tried offense and it just doesn't nothing's working at this point. Nothing's working at this point. So what is going to be working as us on the other side of break if you're on youtube or facebook we're not going anywhere. Stay tuned We'll be right back if you're on the audience side of things head over to part two. We're undiagnosed defense. Plenty to talk about their stay tuned. We are back.

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Let's Ride: What if this is just the beginning for the Steelers, not doomsday?

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Let's Ride: What if this is just the beginning for the Steelers, not doomsday?

"From labra doodles to grow nuts the world of hybrid so today businesses are taking a smarter hybrid cloud approach using the tools platform and expertise of ibm. The world is going hybrid with ibm visit. Ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud fans welcome back to. Let's ride. i'm jeff. Hartmann your hose to this monday wednesday friday. Podcast hope you had a great weekend. You for sticking with me throughout the off season and thank you for making part of me a part of your day easy for me to say and i hope you're having a great start your week here. We go back at it. It's monday and we have a lot to talk about. No there wasn't really any breaking news over the weekend. No we're still digesting the ben rothlisberger contract beata what. I kept on thinking about fan response. That's kind of what i like to do. The most i liked to get my fingers on the pulse of steeler nation. I check twitter all the time. Instagram from time to time. I really try to stay away from facebook. Gosh that is like the worst of the worst are on facebook. In my opinion the hot take ary and all that stuff. Because i mean we put all our stuff from behind the steel curtain dot com. Your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers by the way. We put all of our articles there because it is the largest platform. But holy cow. Facebook is like the burning trash can of social media when it comes to the steelers. It's just you can't do it. i can't do it. I'm sure a lot of you can't do it but nonetheless. I try to keep my finger on the pulse of the steelers. Now's like okay. Well everyone thinking right now. What's everyone feeling right now. And after ben rothlisberger contract we knew it was coming. We knew was coming when the news broke it was kind of was like this gray matter. We didn't know what was going on how much they saving with rothlisberger. What's his actual salary. Cap hit going to be. What does it mean for future years. These were all these questions that no one had answers to. And then slowly. But surely those answers started to matriculate their way through social media and now we know a lot more we know how they're saving roughly fifteen million dollars on the salary cap. And i just wanna make something very clear we when it comes to salary cap space number one anyone that says anything. So if you see jeremy fowler of espn or brooke pryor of espn. Or i. don't know ed. Bouchette of the athletic say the steelers have x. number of salary cap space available. Take that with a grain of salt. Why we've talked about it at nauseam. No one knows what the salary cap number is going to be. So are they using that number based on a one hundred eighty million dollar salary cap. Are they one eighty five. Are they basing it off of one ninety. These are important questions to know. Don't just see up jeremy. Hours a day of two million dollars in cap space available after ben rothlisberger deal. Well it depends if he's using one eighty five and he comes out that it's going to be one eighty they don't have two million dollars a space. They're back in the they're back in the red. So you need to make sure that you keep that in check depending on what number you're using the steelers could have some space available very very little. Please remember that they still have work to be done. There is still work to be done with the salary cap. They're not done making moves. This is the last week before the new league year starts on the fifteenth is tampering period the seventeenth when the new league year officially starts. There is still work to be done but people that are out there. Saying you got ben's contract on kgo signed bud dupree. Are you serious. Come on people have a brain. Please understand the situation. They were in now. They're in a better situation but in no way shape performer. They at the point where they can say all right. We're going to go sign bud dupree now because now we have all these millions of dollars just floating around us to us. Now doesn't work. That way does not work that way. Okay so before we get into the meat and potatoes of this podcast. I wanna make a reminder of a quick announcement every tuesday night. okay. Every tuesday night. I'm asking all of my writer. Dai crew to get the locker room app is a free app. Only for users have even apple product. You can use it only for i. Oh yes s users and every tuesday. I'm trying. I tried it out last week. I was really happy with the way it worked. I basically put out my tweet like normally do for my mail bag segment on wednesday. I got a ton of really good responses on twitter. And i mix them in with the live callers from the locker room app. I wanna do that again. But i'm hoping that if you're an idol s user. You will actually get that app. It is free create. An account is free follow me at j hartman h. Ertms underscore pat twitter handle. And when i go live. I'll put out an article about an hour before i go live and then you'll see a tweet for me as well. You know exactly what time you come on. You can talk about the steelers. You can ask me a bunch of questions and so far the last two times. I've done i've done two rooms. What they call them. I've done two rooms on the locker room app and both times. I've had a lot of people that have been on a budget. They've asked me a bunch of questions. So i'd like to get some new voices in there and i hope you can join me this tuesday around seven thirty eight o'clock eastern time and if there's another time that works out better i'd be glad entertain that but let's get to the headline of this podcast. The guy said the meat potatoes of this podcast in. Here's what i thought in the wake of ben rothlisberger contract news. Everyone not everyone. Let me rephrase that a lot of people are saying that this is the beginning of the end for the steelers that wants rothlisberger and we all assume that's going to be after the twenty twenty one season that the steelers are basically done the. They're just done. They're not gonna have any. They're gonna have a quarterback they're gonna have a lot of their roster is going to be in flux. It's already going to be in flux with a massive amount of free agents that they have coming up this offseason and a lot of people were basically giving you this doomsday prophesy for the pittsburgh steelers and i get it. I understand why people might say that but at the same time. Maybe it's the eternal optimist in me. I'm not sure but what if hear me out here. What if this is actually the just the beginning for the steelers and not doomsday. What if that was the case in severe sitting there wherever standing there walking wherever you are listening to me and your thinking jeff. I need some optimism. Brother give me something positive. Give me something to say. Jeff isn't the beginning of the end. This is actually the beginning of something. Good you kinda reminds me a tale misao then. Good that song. Which i've always this. But i digress. Let's talk about this. I'm going to break this down because everyone that says that this is the beginning of the end. Always points to one. Main factor in that is losses peop- physical games. But i'm talking about people that are now no longer on the team or are expected to not be on the team. So they're looking at the decimation of a roster so what i did is i looked at offensive losses in defense of losses. And i thought to myself okay. Is this a huge impact on the team forward or maybe does the team ever plan in place to replace that player and it would be the beginning of a new generation of steelers depending on the situation. Let's go through this. I think everyone would say that offensively they're poised to potentially lose a lot more than on defense and so when you're looking at the losses of a player markey's pouncey to retirement dance mcdonalds a retirement juju smith. Schuster is expected to be via free agency. James conner the same and free agency. Matt feiler will probably find a new home in free agency and one hundred villanueva. Same ditto free agency expected to leave. That's a lot of names as a lot of names and these are just the high profile players. I'm not adding in players. Like gerald hawkins tighter third tackle for the team and moral easy as a tight end the zach banner role from a year prior. Let's go through these one by one. So market pounding. His retirement i think was left biggest void for the steelers. Because when you look at him. Retiring and i know that he's he was no the player that he once was. It's evident when you watch the steelers play with that. Said i think this is the biggest waiting you would love for the steelers to fill this void with a free agent. I've brought up the name. Jeff harding's before. I think he's a really good example of a veteran that's maybe towards the end of their career but has a few good years left if you get a guy like a harding's to come in. He's not going to cost you a ton of money. But at the same time if you draft a center as well. And i'm not crazy about the centers in this upcoming draft class. But if you draft to center as well we're or have you get free agents relentless on forget. Jc hassen our who is a restricted. Free agent i believe. He signed his tender. So he'll be back this year. So if you go into the season with a veteran free agent even if it's a little bit cheaper contract and jc our you might be able to bypass drafting a center if you're not crazy about those players or if those players that you had targeted are off the board. When you're ready to pick and so i think that the center position is the biggest void. Because i think you have to because the draft class. I just think is so weak. I don't see center in this draft class where you can walk in on day. One poor marquees pouncey. You left florida. You come into pittsburgh and you're starting. I don't think there's a center in this draft class. So they are going to have to be active in the free agent market when it comes to finding that next center. That's avoid. That's an issue so not to get off on the wrong foot. But let's continue. Juju smith schuster. He's expected to leave. I don't think anyone's shocked by that first and foremost but also these end. Is anyone out there. Anyone out there question the steelers drafting a wide receiver. I sure as heck. Don't they're basically a wide receiver factory yet. They've had some that avenue really panned out but my goodness they know how to draft receivers. If there's a position that i'm saying okay you will be alright. Juju can go. They'll draft a receiver. We'll be all right. They will be the steelers. It would be the wide receiver position. My goodness they. They have proven that they can do this so absolutely. I think that when you look at the pittsburgh steelers and replacing juju smith schuster. I'm not that concerned about that. At all james conner is expected to leave all right. Well i think that there's plenty of options for the steelers. There's going to be options in free agency as well as in the draft. Everyone's talking about nausea harris at from clemson or williams from north carolina and the draft. Those are options. Those are all options. But let's also not forget. The steelers could say well. We actually going to try to address this with someone. Like maybe marlon mack. Marlon mack played with the indianapolis colts towards achilles. He seems to be fully healthy. But that's a player that you can get on. The cheap is not going to cost you a ton of money but at the same time could have a lot of upside. And i can't take full credit for that. Michael becker deputy editor. He was the one that suggested marlon. Mack would be a really good fit for the steelers. As a veteran presence would really do well with benny snell. Junior anthony mcfarland and jalen samuels with round out that group nicely and would be that veteran at the steelers probably need at both running back is one of those positions. Receivers another one. They need a veteran. But still i think that the the steelers have options there and if they don't want the free agents or they can't afford any of free agents. There are plenty of running backs in the upcoming draft. Some that could be had in the second round that could turn out to be really good. Picks for the i. I'm not that concerned about connor. In the worst case scenario running. Back james conner does leave. They have to rely on benny snell. Junior anthony mcfarland and jalen samuels. I think they could actually get that done. You may laugh and think jeff. you're nuts. I think they could actually get that done. I really do so. I think the running back position. I'm okay with them. okay. I'm i'm i'm fine fine. I don't think that's a problem now. Matt feiler he's versatile guy he can play guard can play tackle. That's brings a lot of value. And he's probably gonna get a big contract from someone out there you look at what. Bj finney got last season when he was a free agent. You're and i was shocked at that. Contract that seattle gave him when you see what. Bj finney got your thing in the matt. Feiler has all that experiences star is gonna make more with that said. I don't think that the steelers kevin dodson being as good as he was as a rookie and he says a lot of room to improve. I'm not here to say he's perfect. It eases at blow it eases apple a lot. So if matt feiler leaves and dots and fills in i think the schools will be just fine and then big l. hundred villanova. He's expected to leave. Zach banner is expected to fill in banners. Already been about the fact that he could be sticking around pittsburgh for while and since he's going to be sticking around your thinking okay. We'll chew chor for he and banner were neck and neck with that right tackle position. Who's more comfortable on the left side. You can put one of them over there and then also this draft class is extremely deep a tackle and so when you the steelers at the twenty fourth pick they could go tackle with their first round pick or they don't go tackle their first round. They could probably still get a really good tackle in the second round. So with that. Said i think l. andre villanueva leaving ease that blows and now all of a sudden he looked at all those losses pouncey juju connor filer alejandro villanueva. And you're thinking oh boy one of this deal is gonna do. I think this is going to be fine. The biggest concern that. I have the offense side of the ball is pouncey made that very clear right at the right out of the out of the gate but on the offensive side. I know that this is roth. Asperger's last year but on the offensive side is it doomsday. is this a doomsday prediction for me. Absolutely not absolutely not. But i'll get to this in a second. It's going to be key for their draft. This is going to be a huge draft. The steelers for lotteries. Let's go to the defensive side of the ball on the defensive side of the ball. You're expected lose. Bot debris taste all kind of up in the air if he signs a cheap final contract with the steelers three years. And maybe six around and then you have my kilt cam sudden. So let's do the same thing for the defense that we did with the offense. Let's go one by one. See what they have the option but debris not no one expected bud to be back even if you didn't tear his acl when he tore his acl against baltimore. I think a lot of fans saw. Well hey wait a second. Maybe we could give bud dupree on the cheap. Maybe we could get bud debris and he could be super super cheap and we'll get in for a good deal and he'll be auto great. It doesn't work that way i mean. Acl tears are horrible. And it definitely is a setback on a career but the recovery in the surgery and the process has been so refined and so fine tuned. Athletes are coming back from acl tears and having career years but debris is going to get paid. It's not going to be pittsburgh. Pretty certain of that. Okay now with bud dupree gone alex. Highsmith read an article about him on the websites behind steel curtain. Come on sunday. He's excited to take that year. One year two job. I think he could sure they're going to have to add some depth at the outside linebacker position. But i think highsmith is going to be good enough that it's not going to be a detriment to the team. I don't think they're going to have to get outside linebacker or an edge. Pass rusher whatever you wanna call him in the first or second round. They might be able to add some depth later in the round. I don't think they have to address it in free agency either. It might be nice. Sure it'd be great to get a car lawson but he's gonna price himself out of pittsburgh too so you'll think about these things logistically. If high smith is is the only answer. I think they're going to be okay. Let's go tyson wallow now who is a very versatile defensive lineman do they have the answer in house so go back to the offense you talked about. I talked about filer in how dots and it's kind of like an inhouse of transition. It's you don't need to spend a lot of into draft or anything the the guy that is going to take over his there. He's there and he's expected to be a smooth transition with tyson. Who is that person in house. So is it is ahah bugs is it carlos. Davis is it. You know. I i can keep going with some of these other options and i didn't even leave what i'm talking defensive lost. I didn't even bring up. Chris warmly louis or anyone like that. Because i feel like they're pretty much gone anyways that i'll play nose tackle. Andy -fensive end. I think they also addresses in the draft. They might find a steve mcclendon type out. There is a veteran that has a few good years left not going to cost them. A lot of money might be a cap cavalry for another team and they might be. They might be able to bring them in. And then i think ultimately they want to keep allah wallow. Hopefully he'd be willing to say look. I'm not going to really test the waters. I wanna stay here. I want to stay here. I'm gonna take less to stay here. And so that's the hope but the Are gonna have options both in the draft and possibly free agency there as well now with hilton and sudden. I've said it before. I'll say it again. They need to keep one. They need to keep one. I don't care if it's hilton more sudden. I'm leaning more towards sudden i think hilton's gonna cost too much. Money sutton is a very versatile player. I think that if he can keep one dobie fines if you look at those losses doomsday prophesy there for the defense. The laws of bud dupree maybe tyson. I'll all hilton or sutton. You lose both held her sudden. It's going to be a big blow. But i don't think it's going to be the end of the world for the defense you still going to have. You're getting given bush back. Tj wada's tj watt megabits. Patrick mak- fitzpatrick the cornerbacks would be back. Barring someone be a cup a cavalry. I think that they would be just fine. I just wanna make. I guess of the whole point of this. I'm going to wrap this up. Coming up after break is look at the losses because that's what everyone points to and they say it's time to tear it down and then build it back stronger. 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All right pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to the second segment plus ride. I'm your host jeff hartmann. Thank you for joining on this monday morning. Hopefully you're off to a great day. I hope you're really digging into this information. That i'm delivering to you. I think this is important to talk about before. Free agency star. This is important to talk about. After all those losses like pouncey juju connor filer big. Al budget dupree ties mellow hilton. Sudden you can throw in like hawkins and warmly. All those guys. Is this if they lose. The vast majority of those which i do predict they are gonna lose the vast majority of this if they lose all those is this roster lost quote unquote used air quotes. Is it a lost. Cause is this. The beginning of the end is doomsday. I hope that that first segment. I told you that what my beliefs are. My belief is that this is not a loss roster. My belief is that this team is still going to be competitive in my belief is that would you go through every single one of those answers that i had for the potential losses. You're looking at the potential of the beginning of the next era the beginning of the next era because barring cab cavaliers and when i say that i'm talking about someone joe haden being cut because the steelers need to free up cap space steven nelson being cut to free up cavs. As vince williams getting cut or released david decastro getting cut. Release barring cab. Cavities this roster is not lost. There's no need to blow it up. He sees a lot on twitter. Time to blow it up. Just blow it up. Ben rothlisberger gonna be gone. Just blow it up. I don't necessarily agree with that. Not only are you suggesting at the team. The steelers the pittsburgh steelers. The coach never had a losing season avenue and losing seasons two thousand three. Not only kind of suggesting that they tank. They would never do that by the way but they still have too. Good of a defense to blow it up. I saw by getting bleacher report or something. Someone had said that they should trade. T. j. watt what. I mean what i think. They had him traded to the patriots. Why in the world would they even consider that. I mean think about that. Just mind blowing stupidity but there's no need to blow it up. Let me put an emphasis on a couple of things. I and i said this already. They have nine draft picks whether that stays at nine whether it goes down to seven or eight because they make a trade or whether it goes up ten or eleven because they might trade back or something of that nature. They need to hit on their draft picks. It doesn't have to be the two thousand and twenty draft. The twenty twenty draft was very special that draft class. Only six of them. I gave the last time they had six or fewer was in two thousand and three when they traded up to get troy. Paula malo was pretty good move but still they have nine graphics. Kevin colbert and company. They're going to have to hit a few of them out of the park. They're going to have to get players. That not only can play right away but are going to be future. Starters think of last season. Okay that draft class. I thought was tremendous chase claypool future starter for years to come as long as they want him. They want to pay him. He'll be there you look at alex. Smith future starter. He'll be there as long as they want him. Kevin dotson same thing. Those three guys out of the park. You hit it out of the park. So they're going to have to get some of those in this draft. They're going to have to really really prioritize their needs. And that's going to be a challenge. It's gonna be a huge challenge. The only concerning thing for me. And when you think back to everything that i said in terms of the answers for the losses at players the only concerning thing is is something that i've sadly had to talk about way too much and i really wish the nfl would just give us the freaking number and that's a salary cap. The salary cap is the only concerning aspect of this offseason for me because it can absolutely wreck a team like the steelers offseason plans. So when i said oh penalties gone. That's a big void. That's got me a little concerned. They just need to go out and get a free agent. get a jeff harding site. That's easy to say if the salary cap is not one eighty five like summer predicting if it's one eighty which is the floor that they said they're not going to be able to get a player like that in other words they're going to have to drive to center and they're going to have to have that center playing. I i drink reps right away starting wraps unless they like jc half an hour instead. Either way i'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of that in any way shape or form so the salary cap is the only concerning aspect of this offseason for me navy listening to this and saying well jeff. This is all well and good. And you did a good job breaking down the roster but you're forgetting the only position that matters in the nfl. You're forgetting the quarterback position if you don't have a good quarterback anymore in the nfl you're not doing anything. And i understand and i agree one hundred percent. I did not forget the quarterback position look rothlisberger is going to be back for twenty twenty one. Will he back beyond that. I don't know they do have options with him if they would rather have. Let's say he plays well in twenty twenty one and they say ben. We want to have you back. You got some gas in the tank. Let's have you back come back. Let's see what we can do. That's an option. For the steelers. They can also void his contract. After this year ashore ben's going to have to wanna play and they're going to have to do the finances all that this that and the other. I get all that but they do have that option. But let's for the sake of argument. Just state the ben's done after the season he's not coming back well. I titus in with an article that i wrote that iran on sunday morning for behind the steel curtain dot com. I hope you all take the time to check it out. It started off as i had talked a lot at answered a lot of questions the past few weeks from our mailbag segment here on this show that a lot of people are asking about dwayne haskins and even on our steelers preview podcast which is live on youtube on thursday night myself. Dave scofield and brian. Anthony davis i get a lot of people just wondering about doing haskins and i have been wondering about twain haskins and so i did some research. I was just kind of assessing the value of dwayne haskins to the steelers twenty twenty one and beyond and that was kind of the gist of the article is started off just i wanted to watch them. Fill see what he does. Well see what he struggles with. Take a look into the off the field stuff. And when i started the article was supposed to be a really quick article. It wasn't going to be anything that's in-depth but it turned into sit joan beast and i read and linked in their cliff. Hair's still a punk. We call them. Hana ar vinyl curtain comments action. He had written two articles raewyn. The steelers had signed haskins. A he wrote two articles breaking down haskins one things that he does poorly. And it doesn't give you much hope it all and then the other was reasons for hope things at haskins. Does well how he mashes. Well with matt candida style offense. He did a really good deep dive into when haskins was in washington compared what they did with what candidate did with jacoby percent when he was at nc state and they were together. It was really good. And i kind of started watching highlights and i already hear the commenters on buying steel curtain dot com saying anyone can watch highlights only showing the good place to me. I can see a lot from highlights. Like for instance his rookie highlights. When you watch them. There were a lot of plays. That weren't that good for him. As a quarterback his receivers made tremendous catches. They made really good adjustments on poorly thrown passes. It was very telling. He looked like a rookie and he looked like a rookie. Look like he didn't really understand it. he struggled mentally. Wouldn't process things. Well but then you go into the next year's highlights now's twenty twenty and that was an abbreviated year for him. Because that was the year got in hot water off the field with the covid protocols he definitely looked better at times in two thousand twenty. It didn't seem like it was too fast for him. He used the experience from his rookie year to at least on the surface. Look better but he struggled mightily in two thousand twenty and that got him cut. And i when i finished the article. 'cause i even dug into hogs hayden. Which is the espy nation version of. Bts's behind the steel curtain. It's the washington site. When i read a lot of articles published about haskins when he was still at the team. And the only thing. I kept coming back to my mind over and over again when i was watching film reading. Kevin's breakdown looking the hogs havens articles looking on social media. I kept on thinking. This guy is a true wildcard. He is a true wild card. And the steelers. It's a no risk proposition for them. I mean no risk none. He is the steelers. You're talking about a league minimum contract. I think there only eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. If he doesn't make the team they don't own anything and the steelers. If you're worried about the organization don't be there in the best situation. They could they could possibly be in. No guaranteed money a former first round pick. Who has i would say. A lot of people has a lot of upside and so i wouldn't be concerned with that but he has experienced like i said he has a ton of upside. But there's that off the field stuff there's the is the game too big for him. He is just another failed. Ohio state quarterback. Well let me say this. Two things first the washington football organization whether you wanna to call them the redskins when he was drafted or the washington football team. They are one of the most dysfunctional organizations in the nfl. And have been since. Dan snyder bottom. That's important haskins has had multiple head coaches in. his shorts. season is multiple offensive coordinators. Let's not forget though in twenty twenty and this is when. The wheels fell off that led to his release. He was actually voted a captain on the team. He was a captain now whether they do vote. Like the steelers do. It's a player vote. I don't know or whether the coaches just grant players that they are the captain. I'm not sure but to me. That was very telling. That's very telling everyone say he's such a pain in the locker room and he's a cancer. Why would the steelers do that after. Bell and brown and all that. I'm not buying that. Because ultimately this team the washington football team clearly liked him enough that they gave him a c on his jersey. Okay so he is the ultimate wildcard into. Let's bring a full circle. Could he be the answer a quarterback. I think he has every bit of a chance to do that. As if the steelers drafted one and there's a lot of people when i kind of agree with it. Say this is their draft pick. This is the guy that they drafted technically to maybe be the future. But they're not sure they got to see what they have do. I still think the steelers would be smart to make a move and get a quarterback at the right guys there. Yeah but if they don't. I think that he's kinda that guy he's that guy so we'll see. Hopefully you check out that article behind a steel curtain dot com. And hopefully this podcast. Maybe had your breathing a little bit easier. Maybe you're thinking maybe it's not the end of the world. Maybe the steelers are really just retool. Reload on the fly could happen. They need the draft to go well and they really need that salary. Cap to be at a decent number closer to one ninety and they'll be fine and eating lower than that naked. Be in trouble. You know what that's fine. Look here's the deal tuesday. Today's monday tomorrow night. Tuesday night i want. You oughta get that locker room app. I would love to join you. have you join me. I'd love for you to ask me questions. I add some people last time to just sit there and listen just fine but heck you're on there for a reason asking a question. Let's talk about the steelers. Hopefully you join me. Otherwise if you're an android user. I'm gonna be putting out the tweet as i always do. Make sure you respond. So i can answer those live on the air because all that recording will be taken over. We'll be my wednesday mailbag podcasts. Hopefully you check that out. Check out behind the curtain dot com should be one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers. Wherever you get your podcasts search dealers or behind the curtain subscribe. Follow whatever you have to do so you don't miss a thing that's it. That's a wrap for this show. I'm jeff hartmann. Your host is always finish it out be safe. Become in god bless. The great didn't feel ones.

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Standard is the Standard: Devin Bush and company finally hit the field at Rookie Minicamp

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44:17 min | 2 years ago

Standard is the Standard: Devin Bush and company finally hit the field at Rookie Minicamp

"The Pittsburgh Steelers fans guilt and on this is Jeff Hartmann editor of behind the curtain dot com. With another episode of the standard is a standard is a special Saturday night episode why Sunday's mother's day and when it's mother's day. And you have a wife, and you have kids you free day in with had said, I bring my co host lands Williams who has a wife who has kids gonna free that day. What's going on? Absolutely Jeff has a wife who has a lot of kids. So he's good free up like at least two days. My wife is a raging alcoholic. That's the only reason she puts up with me. I'm just kidding. No. She's. I was gonna say what does she naturally for minute of you guys are so help me. She must step on potatoes. And put it in barrels for minute, invaded, the backyard and his Hartman vodka. Yes. Yeah. That's good stuff, by the way that Hartman. So all right. Let's start off with happy mother's day to anyone out there that might be listening. I know that our demographic on YouTube is not a female audience. I guess it's more about what we talk about than anything else. But nonetheless, if we're listening on podcasts, or maybe you're in the car with someone that is females of other happy mother's day from all of us behind the curtain dot com and hear the podcast and platform, Lance. Go had say the same. I echo those settlements. Happy mother's day to my mom. Jackie williams. Happy mother's day. Mom, love you this much. Love you hard rock is my mom says. And also, I want us in a big shot out to my cousin Jerome DeWitt Wilson. The third who was turning twenty one years of age as we record this program. Very proud of you trae keep doing your thing. You're awesome. Young man. Absolutely. So let's get started off with what's going on with the Steelers right now. And that is that they are. Participating independent when you're listening to this episode. If he waited until Monday, then rookie minicamp has already concluded if you're listening to his live or if you're hearing about Sunday, then they have one day left. They ran their three day mini camp Friday Saturday Sunday, then they'll be a little bit of a LOL as they continue with their organized team activities phase two and then face three will start on the twenty first of may I wanna say thought that three weeks of that. And then they will eventually wrap up with minicamp again and it's the off season schedule. So that's just how it rolls. But in rookie minicamp, there's not a lot you can draw from it. But there have been some noteworthy things that are taken place. A so far on Friday. A Devin Bush was everyone's focal point everyone to see how he ran his drills. Everyone wanted to see what is demeanor is like and from what everyone said now there were no veterans there. So take with a grain of salt. He was every bit the leader that he was talked about and discussed to be he. He was calling the defense. He was making a correct calls in the way he's talked about. It was I just have to learn the verbiage. He knows the defense. I just have to learn the language that they use here. No answer, you someone that is excited about that. Or do you just say rookie, minicamp, whatever? Well, you know me. Yeah. Rookie minicamp, but it's good to see that. He has two AP first team all pro votes in already. Yeah. Absolutely. He there's a lot of people that think that he could be that splash that dynamic player. The Steelers needed. I've gone on record as saying I think he could be in. You could disagreed Newlands. He he gives you the most dynamic defender this dealers have had on their roster. Destroy Paula Malla. I'm not saying he is Troy problem. Ali but name a day night dynamic defensive player that I'm talking about a player that can completely turn the tide since Troy retired. Well, it's only been three it's been it's been Troy Shazia. And Bush because when you look at their Combi measurable 's they are that quick twitch type of athlete that checks those boxes, and it just has to translate to the field. But to what Bush was saying and not to minimize those comments. It's essentially just just imagine fans you go to France. I mean, you know, everything in front of you like, you know, what a car is. You know, what a bike is. You know, what a restaurant, you know, at fish is. You can look in the restaurant and see everything you want an order. But you just don't know how to order it. You don't know the words to order it. You can point it out you recognize everyday. And that's kinda what Devon bushes in. That's where he's at. He knows defense. He knows the concept structurally. He just has to be able to communicate it because it's a language. They all speak the same language in the better, you speak the language the clear, you communicate it you can start playing fast to your instincts in to those measurable times. It'll be interesting to see how he handles when the veterans there. Veterans at no the defense or they're in is he still making the right calls. You know, those are the things that I look forward to. But it's still in my opinion. It you hearing positive news positive press, never a bad thing. And I guess you could say to the other notable aspect of rookie minicamp is that the other player. I think a lot of fans were just excited to see mainly because of the position in that was Deontay Johnson. The their second pick in the draft their first third round draft pick the wide receiver from Toledo. He did some individual drills on Friday did not participate in any team like or offense complete offense of drills and today from whatever Ed he is was not even doing much of anything probably has a link lingering injury. No one's going to say what it is. Don't expect them to say what it is. It doesn't seem to be the serious nature. So I wouldn't be concerned. But that's kinda disheartening. You kinda wanna see everyone's. Tabbing him to be the next day Antonio Brown, and you're gonna have to wait and see Lance. Rookie minicamp injuries myth same. I guess I think injuries are more more of an issue. I think that's the most important thing. We are talking about minicamp rookie minicamp is injuries. Because I don't know the extent of the installation of either the offense or defense or what they're trying to give these players what abbreviated menu or appetizer menu. So to speak that they're giving these guys, but you want the guys to be healthy to digest as much as they can as quickly as they can. So anytime that a young player is not practicing. That's a negative. I mean, injuries are the biggest thing right now. But to your point Jeff about when veterans come into to call the defense. It's that unspoken non verbal communication that vets have when they can just look at each other. And they give somebody a wink ahead. Not where you don't make a call. But you guys see the same things and you react in concert. Because you've been playing together so long, and that's an all that you got to work through all that stuff. And I'm sure also when they're calling a defense, and they're saying certain things there's probably some slaying in there. So some words that they might inject, you know, where they might not say, FOX trot Tango. They might just say teach, you know, FTT or something, which means foxtrot Tango. So they don't have to say it all out just these different little nuances when you're playing defense when the vets come in when that you have to pick up as well. Yeah. And, but you know, like, I said there were a lot of good comments made by people in regards to players like Benny snow junior that he needs showed some good hands catching the football. I mean, they're not going to be tackling anybody. It's not like he's gonna be going against live tackling drills. Justin lane. Look good. They look very athletic long. Just everything is basically tab to be no one disappointed. There was no there were no one that you reporters are saying this guy can't catch. You know? So stone. Sammie coates. We could go on. But anyways, so that's rookie minicamp, and like I said, he take it with a grain of salt because it's their first time, but it is their first time putting on the jersey putting on the new helmet in. So therefore in that case, it is significant the other news that has been going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Is none other than number nineteen juju Smith Schuster and lands a few as a month ago. Probably he did a his own podcast. He I said it big shout out to his show. Because if you're not listening to that you need to tremendous he did a show where it was basically, titled juju gets it. He gets it and is another area where he gets it is not just as social media presence in how utilizes social media is the fact that this is what was reported jujubes fish used to taking his dog Biji, very popular animal on Instagram for a walk and he saw this park in Pittsburgh. And he went to the community, I guess the community area. Whatever the. The office. And he said I would like to hold a get together. Like a water balloon fight here at this park is possible. And they said, yes, he I mean this happened today on Saturday. He brought in these gigantic inflatable slides. He had all these water balloons, but the story goes further than that. So he paid for a Kona ice truck to show up to give free cone Eissa kids. He paid for this local company to provide sandwiches when they ran out of sandwiches. He paid for a hundred pizzas to be delivered. And then even someone said that WalMart early that morning. He was there buying the water toys and stuff for the event. And as he was leaving. He saw kid with a charity mug asking for money. He put nine hundred bucks into the charity bug. This guy gets it, man. He just gets it. I mean, I couldn't have said it, you know, any better. I mean. To be able to do all this it. It has to be part of his personality because you can't fake this type of stuff. Right. You know, like, I don't have the personality for that. Like, I'm not gonna throw a water balloon stuff at a park and are probably giving Kate. Somebody coming out of WalMart. But like, Nah, I just trained all day, you know, trying to get a break, man. Get away from it. He is absent this feels absolutely genuine and the only way that this level of genuineness backfires would be if he got hurt. In the water balloon fight. I'm assuming he participated in the water balloon fight. No. Ju ju. Yeah. Yeah. Likability is big EMMY likeability is big being able to relate being relatable to fans is big all that build your brand. All that all that builds could will for you in the city. So when you drop a pass in New Orleans, and your genuine about how hurt you are about it fans. Give you a break fans are upset, but fans give you a break being nice is always a good thing being likable is always a good thing. Now, it's not a good thing to be likable at the expense of your own character enduring things that you shouldn't be doing just to be likable just to do it for that purpose when it's not genuine. But you know, you get the sense that it's gene, which you. I mean, that's why I said juju Kitson I mean, his personality is perfect for today's climate of how sports is covered and he here. Exactly, right. And genuine is the keyword here that comes to mind, and I don't know him personally. I've never met him. But. You talk to people. Whether it's on social media, re comments that people that have that say, this is this guy is is genuinely is isn't a facade. He's not putting on an act for cameras or anything that he shares so much of his life on social media. Whether it's is Instagram, stories, Snapchat. He has his own YouTube channel, he's okay. Putting his life out there. And there's nothing for him to hide at least at this juncture. And he said it himself. He said, I'm still a kid. He's twenty two he's still like doing I still like playing video games. I still like going and having fun at a park with friends. So he did this. I tell you what I can't think I'm trying to think of a player in last thing about this yourself as I describe it that his come into the Steelers organization in has been beloved so quickly. As juju. Smith Schuster has. I mean TJ watt was taken in right away. For a lot of different reasons. The position that he plays the watt name stuff like that. But at the same time issues like at a different level and a lot of it is essential media stuff. And he plays video games. He's always he plays video games with fans on online. Can you think of anyone it isn't have to be this team? It can be any generation a team that is coming and everyone's like embrace them right away. I'm just going to say the the thing that came to mind was fast, Willie Parker. Okay. People like fast Willie. I mean, they like those. Yeah. Yeah. It was like fast Willie fast Willie was super humble he was a super humble do like his humility particularly in his relationship with Jerome Bettis. I mean, he was the super humble do everybody. Love will. We fast Willie was an instant hit Pittsburgh 'cause Pittsburgh loves running game as well. And he was fast, and he was put up monster games. So all that and his county happy. Oh auch. Jack's kinda, you know, people like that. So I would say fast Willie. Yeah. That's a good one. I wouldn't have thought of Willie Parker as an undrafted player and stuff. Yeah. It's a good story. It's a good story. Meanwhile, g Smith Schuster as rookies like going into the locker room I and locking the doors behind him. So no one else can get into the locker room. He's basically just he's like as they called him. He's like the little brother on the team that just picks on the older brother all the time. That's him. As percent. Here's the thing. But here's the thing. Would you? He's gotta keep playing. Well. Because if you don't play well all this be this becomes antics if you don't play. Well, yeah, I'll get, you know, say like if you played well, it's fun. It's light. It's you know, we love juju. You don't play. Well, it's annoying antics. He needs to grow up and give folks don't football. It can flip. It can flip. He just got to keep bawling out. And if he has a bad game all he has to do is pose the the hit on volunteers perfect on social media, and everyone will love him live. Probably right. He knows how to play that game. Okay. So curious another pictures he could he he could post is the one with the two with the two toes down the TV touchdown to it Oakland with air. Tony O'Brien the back. His aren't with his arms up. Like, oh, well, why don't you throw me the ball? Well because. Yeah. To-to juju toll town. I'm not doing any to- tabs now to taps over in Oakland. He they can have him get. Actor, but he's funny story I gave away all my Antonio Brown jerseys, m my Martavis Martavis Bryant jersey, and I gave them all to my barber who's the Oakland raider fan? I gave them all the jersey. So I no longer have any Tonio Brown memorabilia in my house. I'm Clinton, I'm Clinton. Yeah. I never had any. Obviously, I'm cleansed. You you get that. Right. 'cause I always call him. Turn. I give you saying. No, no Tomlin said that was tablet Tomlin you that. That. A different type of cleansing. Or just see that was might have been triple on time. What do you use? That description of the Steelers is being cleansed after AB. Cleansing a different type of cleansing. Rubella switch high fiber diet. So anyways. So that's. It's juju being juju. And as good to see I'm glad he's a Steeler because I think that's for me. When you think about how you want Steelers to act that's kind of what you want. But anyways, so still, hey arm Spencer hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan nanny, I'm Jason Kirk. And we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast. It says in the script onto riff on what that means. And basically what I mean is all sport every Tuesday. We talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken. Subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. Let's talk about some other stuff here. I run an people listening to this show might not check. Chinese soaker dot com all the time. But every Friday night, we do the Friday night Steeler six pack, and it's essentially where I just think of six questions to ask the readers of the website rears, the website will go on they'll comment their answers. It just creates discussion people go off on tangents. Sometimes we'll have forty fifty comments that are based off of one specific answer. It really is just an it's an open thread exactly what is supposed to be and lands. You decided that you wanted to have us answer those questions on the show tonight. And you have those written down, right? Yes. I do. But I'm gonna go in reverse order. Sure. Whatever to mix it up. First question and number six on the webpage over or under on Chris Boswell missed field goals in twenty nineteen. Four over under on Chris Boswell, miss points. After in two thousand nineteen three which are thoughts on that. Jeff. Well, I'm the one that's at the lines. Obviously. I'm going to say I'm gonna say under on both. I think that he gets. I think he gets right. I think he wins the job for a lot of different reasons. This year, contractual reasons are big one. But I think that he I think he kinda rights ships. I'm gonna say under on both. I do think he misses a couple of field goals particularly longer ones. I don't think he has the issues with the short range field goals as he did last year in the extra points. I hope he's perfect, but you can always kind of Chuck one which is still considered under. What do you think I agree with you? But I am I think under on both because I don't think he'll get an opportunity to get the four or three. So he better be under because he he approaches either one of those numbers, I don't think he'll be place for the Steelers. So it will be unemployed is what he'll be who'll be unemployed. So I'm going to say under okay with the sake of his employment number five. If you had picked one who would you pick Kevin green or Greg avoid, Lloyd. I'm not paid for my demeanor. It's it's tough because green didn't play as long for the Steelers Craig boy did on they both finished their careers with other teams people forget a great finish with Carolina. I believe, but when I was a kid I had a number ninety five jersey, and Greg Lloyd was is a bad mother out there man, and he tried. He I loved how he played angry Joey porter played angry to Jason worlds did not play angry. I don't think. Now, here's another name. I don't think Jason guild in play angry. I laid players that play angry that when they're out there. They're not playing dirty. They're playing angry. They're playing like I'm trying to punish you every time you touch the football in. That's what I also felt the great win was more overall. A better overall player he was more athletic than Kevin greenie. Kevin Greene was a pass rushing specialist. Let's just call us bay disobeyed. Great would could do more. I'll take grade. What about you? I'm gonna take Kevin Greene. I'm gonna take two thirty five and a half sacks to twenty two and a half sacks when they play together. But we had to do more stuff. He dropped into coverage. Wasn't this is the three fourteen Don Capers defensive coordinator says not like he was always rushing the passer, keep data mind. Yeah. I gotta go with the hall of Famer to men overall. Better overall credentials hundred sixty sacks to fifty four and a half. Kevin green energy, though, you've provided that a production him screaming off to edge. They were a perfect combination. But if I had to pick one because Saks are so valuable have to go with the guy with more sacks. I'm gonna go with Kevin Greene a agree or disagree that defense of the ninety four ninety five especially those two years easy. My opinion one of the most underrated defenses in Steelers history because they never want to SuperBowl agree or disagree. I would agree. I would agree. But I'm gonna tell you one. That's even more underrated than that. It's the team that won six Super Bowl that defense in two thousand one thousand eight that. People talk about that defense all the time. It's the steel curtain and indicators early two thousands defense never here. Never here on it. Maybe maybe maybe I'm into wrong chat rooms or chat rooms. I never hear about that defense. And my thought has always been I don't hear about that defense because it is second half had they taking care of business in the second half in steamrolled Arizona as it looked like they were going to do did. I think that defense would be spoken in the same rarified air that ravens defense of around the same time. That defense was incredible. It's eight if it weren't for the defense, they wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl. Anyways. Anything about the time. It was time the offense picked up the defense. And so yet if whole season you have a bad half yet sucks in the Super Bowl. But you still won the SuperBowl. Your defense had the biggest M I opinion. The biggest game changing play in Super Bowl history. With James hers is interception. Run back for a touchdown at the end of the half yet again prompts. I think that gets a lot of credit to me it's rained the steel curtain of the seventies. Then you go to the two thousand defense, right f. For because he had Troy Harrison porter Woodley, a you could go to the defensive lineman Aaron Smith inside with James Ferrier, Larry Foote, they get a lot of credit in my opinion. Ryan clark. I disagree. I think they get a lot of credit inside the Steeler universe. But I think outside of that when you think of fans outside of the Steelers think of great defenses that don't think that defense comes up. I mean, the curtain defense is do. But that defense is a defense that I think should be thought about the same way that Baltimore Ravens defense. I think it was every bit as good, absolutely. That was there's the teams that they went years without giving up one hundred dollars on the ground, just tremendous. So with that defense, Jeff, I mean, I remember watching the Dallas game when the shave towns and picked off Tony Romo to Ciller. Eastward this touchdown pick off. He didn't me today. And I'm just watching the game. And I had an under nine belief that that defense would make a play. I'm just. Watching a game. I'm like they're down any the plight. They'll make a play that defense. We'll make a play. Bam. He gets the interceptions. Boom. Touchdown. I'm like, that's that's half filled about that defense that whenever it needed a plan to change the game. It could go out and get it. That was awesome thief, and let me jump through. Can't forget about that game. He Miller's big touchdown pass touchdown reception where Ben's scrambled all over the field and found him in the corner of the ends. And the actually got them back. Anyways. I. You had to bring up number seven 'cause you have seven now I eighty three and you'd number eight he. Anyway, I'm going to skip this one question. We beat the draft. Jeff. So I'm not gonna ask I'm not gonna ask that question. Okay. Let me go to number the next one. What are your record predictions for the AFC north in twenty nineteen? Okay. I had the Steelers at thirteen at three. So they would be I I have the Cleveland Browns at ten and six second. I have the Baltimore Ravens at nine and seven third, and I have the Cincinnati Bengals at six and ten fourth. I have knee Brown's baking the playoffs it'd wildcard team. And obviously the Steelers vying for a first round by in the AFC playoff picture. That's my scenario, which yours I had the Steelers believe eleven and five on the pod. I got the Browns and nine and seven ravens at nine and seven, and I'm with the Bengals at foreign twelve. I think that'll set up for the Steelers being the three seed, and I think the AFC north will only get one playoff Representative. Okay. It's going to be interesting. The wildcard teams they kinda bounced around every year. So it will be pretty interesting. It's gonna be interesting out in the west with Kansas City, 'cause I'm assuming that tyreek hill is going to get suspended. So it's gonna be interesting what Kansas City looks like because the charges are loaded. Kansas City is loaded. So I mean, if it looks anything like last year, you may have to teams coming out the west the east is trash is only the patriots. I mean, east straight trash. He's got a little bit better e-. That's put it this way. The patriots are going to have to account for lady on bell. When they play the jets. You know, I mean, that's I understand. He's just one guy. But Sam darnold could be better. They did get you know, CJ Moseley. They got a lot of tea. They got some talent. I'm not saying that it's going to be wins. It is going to be losses for the patriots. But I do think that it's going to be more difficult than it has been. You know, what's impressive about PF? You're so optimistic that you could probably still sell a Pinto today. Yes. You would say it's vintage it has great injured. Injured eight drac, it is retro retro. It gets really bad gas mileage, but you know, just be are that you would take out just go to, you know, just a illegal car. You drive around towns, reliable guy. Great interior. The sound quality is perfect at the pop. My ways off told me I could be a salesperson. Absolutely, my Carling, you just sold the jets being relevant, and if you could sell that. And then in hold on. I did not say relevant. I said that unlike in the past years, the patriots aren't going to be a cakewalk over the jets because they actually have some playmakers now people he doesn't believe that. But he could sell it to you. And that's the key to a great sales. Everybody in the world know that you can pretty much chock the patriots up for twelve thirteen wins. They're gonna would AFC north by like we fifteen. We know how this works rinse ripping patriots win the east I made. Hey. I know they're gonna win east. I'm just saying might be as easy as the past. Let's get to the biggest question skip. This other question to let's get to the biggest question, and you did a Steelers burning question podcast on it. And that question is which player from twenty seventeen NFL draft will have the best twenty nineteen T J watt, juju Smith Schuster or James, Connor. That's a good question. I think it's a tough question to. When you think about it is tough any people obviously had that immediate knee-jerk reaction. And that reaction is always bang TJ. What that is how they thing. But when you think about the logistics of the defense and offense concern to the players are offense players. You'll get James Connor. And is are they gonna go running back by committee now with any snow Jalen Samuels to try to save him? Is that he doesn't see the balls as much that could hurt his production. You look at juju Smith Schuster, and now that intern near Browns not there is is he gonna put up the same kind of numbers with being the focal point for defenses attention in teaching watts. Not going to surprise anyone coming off double digits access, even get shit more. They're going to be able to shave their protection his way a lot of times. These are all questions to be answered I answered mine on the pipe cast. Why want to know what you think? I'm sorry. I'm probably going to go the easy route and say TJ. Pay because you obviously didn't listen because you're not a team player. I picked. I picked I picked TJ what as well. Because I think he plays. He's gonna be on the field the most and he's going to have an opportunity mega play every single time. The defense is on the field. I think for all the other reasons that you said I mean James Carter had a fantastic season last year. I mean, the thing that pops out when you look at his numbers is a four and a half yards per carry. But you look at the twelve touchdowns. I mean, it's kind of I mean, that's that's a fabulous year. Ju ju I mean, you just don't know where the passing game is going to be he's going to be the number one wide receiver. He will see double team. So I think some of his production will minimize I think I've been reading a bunch of articles about they're finally going to do running back by committee with the rookie Samuels in Connor because they got three young backs and are not going to try to run the wheels off. I mean, you know, Jud is gonna get a ton of touches because I mean help in rothlisburger through at six hundred seventy five times last year. I can't imagine that number going out a ton. So jujubes going to get his targets, but TJ is going to be on the field more. He's gonna play more snaps. He's going to impact the game more. So I I would go with TJ WADA's. Well, and I think of those players T J watt is the best. Player of those guys. I mean with thirteen sacks TJ is the best of the three. So I think it is TJ watt. But there's a case for those other guys that that people could make I think about this. That's one draft class. People hate Kevin Colbert all the time when a draft class three. I'm Todd Vander the host of prime time a new show from box dot com. This season. We're tackling the American presidency on TV stories that capture the way television effects and reflects, politics and culture. We'll take a look at fictional presidents who've changed the way we think about the real Oval Office. That isn't gentlemen, the president of the United States the morning everyone. Please take your seats. And how real presidents US TV to further their own goals. What you come here to plug. Have you heard of the portable? Correct. 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He had fourteen hundred last year. No, he say over thousand false whoever thousand but he won't have over twelve hundred true or false last one James Caan will play in sixteen games next year. False absolutely false. Okay. All right. He has yet to do that. He'll get knit because they have a couple of young backs that we think are going to be pretty good. I think when he gets knit the Steelers will be would be pretty precautious with him. Yeah. I agree. I can't say this. I think that. I'm gonna say. I think there's a part of me down. And it's it's the Homer in meat. It's really very loud. This kind is just kind of quiet. This Homer viewing. I get in my belly sometimes. And it's there I think is going to have a great year, everyone talks about how I think anything is numbers are gonna fall. And I said it before on shows. I think he's a good year. I think I think he's gonna have over twelve hundred dollars next year. So I think. You sure as well. I think I think the James Connor is going to be stay healthy. I think that if anything there's offseason he's realized that, you know, you gotta play a certain way, you know. You gotta stay healthy yet. It'd be out on the on the field. You can't make to what is it. You can't make the club from the tub. They say yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You can't make the club from the Jeff. I mean, don't get to personal IBS. Poke fun, and I don't want to poke fun at anyone that suffers from that. Now, Eddie or screwing that now that this on how we roll here at the super com, absolutely. Okay. Look we have a few minutes left before we call. It a shell. And something we did on the Steelers preview that I do all the time on my Steelers burning question show is. We wanna take some questions from us. If you're gonna live chat right now on YouTube. If you didn't know we have jamming can find us on YouTube by searching BTS's Steelers radio. Go ahead and ask your question. 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He's often lands and Atlanta and we've been doing this for what five seasons something like that. Jeff's not mean at all. I think I'm a pretty nice guy. Like, Jeff just not meet at all like, Jeff laughs and smiles more than any person. I know. Retail. I don't agree. Yeah. Vodka says that I he's asking about the setup that obviously it looks like I'm gonna different locale. I am in a different locale. That's because I am back in my hometown of wheeling West Virginia wheeling west by God Virginia. And so I came back home celebrate mother's day with my mother be heading back to. So on location Isaac says, can we give the money? Can we give them money input into Atlanta's internet connection? Sure. I'll I'll take it shoot. It this way. All right. We do have a live super chat question shield, a ninety one. Thank you. He. Giroud off today. The second quarterback position. Would you choose do? I really have to answer this. I don't want to laugh at the question. We, you know, you they know my answer you answer it. Oh, it's gotta be dubs. It's gotta be Dobbs are ways, it's is Saturday night. Are you drunk already? No didn't Dobbs. Make the one throw in Baltimore that's worth two seconds. During about one throw. Hey, you were at the ranger you were at the raiders game when he played for a quarter and didn't Jack squat. But what the end at one throw. Give me a break. Hey, he's he's made more throws than any rookie is made tackles that we're already assuming that are repeat are going to be I drink off rose. So that one throw is enough for him to be the set constrain I as a card carrying charter member of the base and Rudolf fan club. I really cut off all ties with you outside of this show because he just said Joshua Dobbs. So there you go Mason Rudolph is the number two quarterback on this team here. All right. People are calling. So drinker, he gave his de gave some money donate. 'cause I love Steeler talk. Thank you very much easier. Very loyal listener. He's always in the live chat. We appreciate that very much. Hey, vodka drinker. Do you like Tito's which your favorite vodka, by the way, vodka drinker? When he answers that I will certainly share that with the snowman another live chat other super chat. He says how many draft picks are not signed as of the recording of this episode only to that would be first round pick Devon Bush and first second third round pick Justin lane, all other all seven other draft picks have all signed their initial contracts. So that should be done. We're Murray's collar Murray side early late last week. So they'll only at you. The all start rolling typically the I two I hit signs, and then they all start coming down on what they God. You wanna see what kind of signing bonus and stuff like that? So there you go. Let's see here that catch up here. Ron chests agrees with me, he says that. Dob sucks that I'm completely right? Let's hear vodka drinker. Answers your question. He says loose loose anchor. Nissan com. Not sure if I'm pronouncing that correctly, it's a polish potato vodka. There you go you tried that then you partake in. No, he's a connoisseur. Obviously, I'm Tito's. Sure. There you go. I'm I'm neither. So let's go with the next question is tight end are the Steelers biggest need Vance. Mcdonald's injury prone and other options aren't great. Would you say that the tight end position is the biggest need for the Steelers on the offers of side of football. Yes, I would agree which would Trump that if you're including the defensive side. On defense aside of football. Would I say depth the defensive line? They spends on the rookie 'cause they need to bring back Tyson. I'll Awalu they lead LT Walton walk out, although I don't think he signed yet. And let's see if is a above from Alabama can play. Okay. So. Here we go. He what do you think about the new kicker? They brought in a under after free agent kicker. I I don't know thing about him. I think he made seventy percent of his kicks at UCF. I saw that on Twitter the other day. I don't know until I see him actually kicking football which won't be until the preseason. I have no clue who will have more receptions is here. This is a good question who have more receptions this year, this is from double h Jalen Samuel's or James Washington. I'm gonna go with Jalen Samuels, disagree Jane's Wadi James Washington's gonna have good year. But I could see Jalen team was being up there. I think he's going to be used a lot of the receiving. Yeah. That's why I think so I think he's going to be featured heavily at third-down packages and get an opportunity to catch a lot of balls. So, you know, running backs get catches involves too. I think James wash the oil. Maybe if they use them different. I mean, he was kind of the X receiver lot of deep routes deep routes stuff like that. So you don't get a lot of you. Don't get a lot of opportunities to run deep routes. So I'm going with Samuel was just on sheer volume in the amount of times. I think he'll be on the field on third down. All right. And let me. Let me add one thing though, but yards per catch. I think absolutely be you. Oh. And a little finished with this one. How many touchdowns will Vance McDonald have in two thousand nineteen. Does anybody in the live chat? No hominy hat last year. I'm guest like six, I don't think. I don't think I don't think can't six last year. I'm gonna go with seven I like seventy I don't think he had six last year. I can I can remember the touchdown against Jacksonville in the back of the end zone. The stiff arm her around the world against Tampa Bay. I can't think of any others. I'm a go. Oh, he had a shovel pass. I think he had a shovel pass early in the season. He might have had four or five. No one's chiming in. What does Dave's goofy? What the hell's he doing? He should know. I'm gonna go with Stephan. Okay. Eating seven. I'll say six I was gonna say six. Okay. So I think that he had four someone just trying to four now. They're trying to okay four touchdown. So what did I said seven? And if I know he funding we have four I would have said six to eight that was my number. I think Donald Donald Nolan put it best in his agreed to end the show. He said screw the patriots. So. Hey, happy buffet. I'd say exactly so look I say is at the end of every show, we really appreciate all the people. The almost a hundred people that are in the live tied right now watching the show on a Saturday night and are part of this little community. We have on YouTube. Remember, if you don't have us connected with your YouTube, go to YouTube, search BTS's radio subscribe, like share it with your sealer friends, send it to him send the links good goodwill audio platforms because like lances show. Yeah. I said it is there. It's not on YouTube yet yet yet my goal is by the season they'll be on there. But until then it's just on the audio platform. So go anywhere. 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Standard is the Standard: Predicting the Steelers' 2019 offensive depth chart

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Standard is the Standard: Predicting the Steelers' 2019 offensive depth chart

"Pittsburgh Steeler fans going on. This is Jeff Harbin editor behind the steel curtain dot com for another episode of the flagship, the behind the curtain flagship podcast, the standard is a standard. You know, me joining me as always my co-host Lance Williams out on the west coast were later here on the east coast, Lance primetime for you what's going on. Hey, everybody. I'm out here. Chilling trying to hit you guys with a new lead every week. If you guys are true Steeler fans in true Pittsburgh, sports, fads, you understand the significance of the lid that are wearing the we are family throwback lid. So that's how I feel we're family when we do this shell. So we're just welcoming you into our humble abodes -absolutely. If you're joining us live on YouTube, you are welcome to join the live chat. We normally have a large group of people there. I'm not sure what it'll be like as ten o'clock eastern time here, but we'll see hopefully will get some questions. We're going to take some questions later in the show. But because there's no news in this time of year. No news, great news, for the Pittsburgh Steelers. In any other NFL team what we want to focus on today is, we wanna look at the offense side of the football, and we're basically going to give you our predictions for the depth chart. In other words, we are predicting the roster for the upcoming season and just doing it a little different way. We're going to predict you know, for instance, in the offense of line. How many tackles are they gonna keep how many players on the line? Overall will they keep wide receiver is a hotly highly contested position that we're gonna talk about again. How many players are they going to keep and we'll talk about each and every position eventually have our own little depth chart for this particular episode wishes offense next weekend? Will obviously do the defense. So it's where do you wanna start what position? I'll give you the dibs to call it. Well, let's start with the quarterback position. Let's go quarterback. Let's go skill positions to the offense of lie. And one thing, I'm gonna ask you guys listen to the program. If you're live. Chat, just not good at math. I don't pay attention all the time. So leans the numbers tally up the numbers as we go through. I'm gonna try to pay attention. I probably won't Jeff can't add pass twenty five so we could do twenty five twenty five by five sets of five. I you get if I did in fitness terms and exercise. Super sets like seven seven forty nine irc. It here. Or, you know, which also you can't calories. Well. So you know you could do that. Absolutely, okay. Days, go fields and watch as it he's on. He's, he's taking care of it for us. Thank you very much. All right. Let's get started the quarterbacks. I think it safe to say. Now let's talk about number of players that make the team. I'm saying three Lance de disagree. I do not disagree. We'll be three quarterbacks getting some teams going carry too. But under Mike Tomlin. He typically likes to carry three and I think that we're probably going to agree on those three, Ben Rothlisberger one Josh windows, and or Mason Rudolph two and three respectively either. Or yes or no? Or do you think that for some reason, Dobbs or off would be unseeded by I can't forget the guy's name? I keep on forgetting the guy's name that let's just call him dash because when I'm looking at. The fourth it's dash. Name his dash. So when you're the fourth quarterback, you're just dash think dash has any. They. Dash has no. Because your day no syllables. If you have Idi shot hill making roster we hot. Delvin hod Dame. You know, the only symbol that makes eighty cents that was a good simple was prince, you know, when prince gave up his name, and he became the simple. But in this case dash has no syllables that guy won't make. It's Delvin Hodges. And yet, the days go field, sell his Devlin, and that's a joke from that movie with Adam saying anyways, and didn't prince is a quick XIV. Are he was when he went to the symbol? He was the artist formerly known as yes, I never stood. Okay. So you're a symbol but everyone's going to call you the artists, formerly known as therefore you have title, you're not just as adder anyways. He's an artist. He was an artist. So, you know, give artists, some license, sometimes what they say, does it make entire logical sense. Oh, yeah. Okay. So a lot of people wanna know. Dash has a chance to make the practice squad. I don't I don't see them. Keeping a quarterback on the practice squad, personally, you know, I don't know dash has no chance. Sorry sorry, but you got that be funny man, if a guy went out there and got a t shirt in the last name was dash, please some. Nobody do that in send us a picture. That would be great to Lord of the of that much money to spend to get a customer, as with tax on the nag. Lee Hodges basically, they're just a quarterback the second half of the fourth preseason game. And say good luck kid, get out there with his crabby offense of linemen, so. Oh now Davidson, you'd actually is Devlin. That's his actual name. I like dash better. Here's why are we talking about? Let's be running back running backs. Okay. This is a little bit. I think it's very similar, how many people do you see making the depth chart or making the roster at the running back. I'm gonna say three Lance outgrew. I'll agree with you think it'll be three okay? So that six total farm keeping track in my head. I James Connor would be number one, obviously Jalen Samuels. You think any Snell junior or does Ralph Webb sneak up because everyone said, how Ralph Webb look? Great in T as in football and shorts, I don't think he does you disagree or agree. I agree. Dash squared will not make the roster de count fullback into the running back position. Or do you have that as a complete timer? I think that's a separate position. Okay. And I think that because they make the Pro Bowl as a separate position. So Roosevelt made the Pro Bowl as a fullback in Connor made it as a running back. So because of that, as it nation out consider them to different position. All right. That means that we would have one fullback, then we'll both agree, Brazil next is gonna make the team. So that's four backs. Three, rare back seven total so far, where at seven so let's go outside to the wide receiver position. I just wanna number overall. We're not talking about flanker slot. All that stuff XYZ. How many receivers you see them? Keeping in two thousand nineteen I'm gonna go with five wide receivers just because at minimum if you wanna go to zero zero personnel, which is no running back. No tied in and play five wides. You need at minimum five wides. So I think they'll keep five wide receivers the Rosser typically they do most NFL teams at least keep five. So they'll keep five as well. I think they keep six, but I wanna hear who you have making the roster in NC where you have that one which player, you have getting cut. So go ahead and read off. He makes his team on give you my five. Moncrieff Switzer, Deontay Johnson juju Smith. Schuster James wash? Hinton actually, as I as I say them out loud. I think they'll keep six. As I look. Look at it and ally Rodgers will be six I think they'll be six if there's five. Deontay Johnson, it would be I think a practice squad guy but I think they'll be six. I know the five that will make it will be Margrethe Schmidt, Schuster, Switzer, Washington ally Rogers. I think those five will make it if, if they carry six the guy that's on the bubble will beat a rookie of the joss, there's no way the David ever cut their second pick in the draft. No way won't cut off. They went I think I grew what Daves go veal saying in the live chat right now. He said that they'll be six on the roster. Five active on game days in the question will be in my opinion. It's he'd you give the helmets you'd Rogers or Switzer I think that's where they're going to go and he's gonna come down to come down to special teams. You know, if Ryan Switzer is your return guy, he's gonna get a helmet more often because he's going to be used more. But then again, I don't know. We'll see that's a great point. Dave Ryan Switzer's, also more of that Swiss army knife. Guy, they lined him up in the backfield. A couple of plays as well as sidecar in a backfield with Ben Rothlisberger. So in that respect he does a few more things in the offense, then Eli Rogers. But if Iraq is in my opinion, better wide receiver then Ryan's which are much better after the catch more shifty ethnic. He's a better route runner. He's better overall player there. Ryan switzer. He just might not be as flexible as Ryan Switzer. So it's gonna be interesting. I think they have a pretty good group there for me. I just think it's one of those things where. If they were if they were only keep five like you mentioned earlier, they're going to make a really tough decision on someone that they're going to basically, do something, which we talked about on the Steelers three, they never do in that his admit that they made a mistake in some way, shape, or form. So, for instance, let's say they decide we're gonna cut you I Rogers, they just give you Rogers a brand new to your deal now. Whether whether or not that deals lucrative whether that not that deal has a lot of dead. Money involved is not important. What's important right now is that they gave him his contract, and they cut him. Did you make the team or Ryan, Switzerland today cut him? And then you're like this guy was we traded for him before the season last year gave up draft capital for that. And he didn't make the team this year. They don't like to do that. They don't like to say we made a mistake when we made this move. And so I do think they're gonna keep six. But if they were just keep five really interesting to see. Who they decide to part ways with do have a feeling if they were to make a decision it would be Rogers or Switzer, and I probably lean toward Switzer over Rogers, because like you said, I agreed at Rogers is a better receiver. Indiana Johnson did return kicks in college in. So there's a chance that he could do that. If he could fill those roles Switzer could become expense. Let me ask you this Jeff typically, when it comes to Ross decision, especially decisions that are tough. I have the three Ps came up with years ago. Funny, I forget than when you forgotten I heard that I. Laughing at one, that's why wrote them down before I said them to you, because I was like, man, I can't forget him twice. Here are the three Ps performance pedigree, Impe frame, your decision on Switzer or Rogers, Indiana Johnson in terms of the three piece now I think, pedigree will protect the Johnson because he was the second person drafted by them this year. So that will protect him. I think pedigree protects them. But speaking a Switzer and Rogers in terms of the three piece who has the advantage in Europe. Has the advantage. Today's like performances production pedigree, is draft or trade for what type of pedigree, are they bringing in pay last? But not least his contract. How much are they being paid either who has the advantage in those three categories between those two players? How do you think? You'll how do you think it'll play out from a roster? Perspect-. It's tough because in our stunned that they gave you I Rogers that contract because his contract actually was gonna toll over two thousand nineteen they could have kept him for really cheap, but they decided for some reason to lock him up. My guess is that they weren't sure what they were going to get any in the draft. If they were gonna find a guy that would be able to play the, you know, the antennae around type position. But because Rogers didn't play that much last year such a small sample size coming off a C L tear in two thousand seventeen I'm gonna say that Switzer has the advantage there because. You talked about his versatility. They put him in the backfield. He did make some plays Rothlisberger started to trust him really early in don't downplay that anyone. That's listening, Ben Rothlisberger throws it to players that he trusts period. There were times. I remember when dri Archer was wide opened on the field. He would not throw the football because he didn't trust him to make the play. So I'm gonna say Switzer. What do you say, I agree? I think it I don't know if that's I don't know if the relationship within fits neatly into any of these categories. It could be it could be performance and performance that he had last year gave a trust with the quarterback. It never hurts when the franchise quarterback trust you in his willing to throw the ball in harm's way to get you football. So a relationship in a report with the quarterback is always a good thing, but Rogers has report with bit as well. So it's really going to be interesting to see how this fits 'cause. It's not like Rogers is, is unknown. Commodity to been rob Berger. And we saw Rogers, come back. I believe it was in a patriot game which would be the fourth P and he performed pretty well in that game and gave the Steeler offense juice. So this is a can't battle, I think that pays you should pay attention to. Yeah. And if they do you know days go, he'll mentioned in, when we talked about that is keep six, but only had five active on game day. I would not be shocked. If Deontay Johnson is the one that doesn't get a helmet early in the season they typically don't like to throw their receivers out the wolves early. They didn't let us use misuse. Ter-. Think about what you just said, in terms of Switzerland, terms of a trust relationship, you know, is training camp with a new wide receiver enough time to develop that trust between him in quarterback. Probably not unless he's like a Randy moss type prospect, that's coming in and it's just super dominant. I you know, I don't know. So I think that trust relationship is goes to your point I could see what David say you put six the roster Deontay. Johnston's deactivated. I mean that makes perfect sense. Yeah, I guess there could be players that are on the roster right now. The ninety one off season roster that they could shake it up. You got Griffey and, and Spencer, stuff like that. I just don't I just can't see one of them unless there's an injury beating another one of this players. But we both agreed that we. Set on six right guess we're gonna go with sick. So we got to thirteen thirteen praise. Let's go to tight ends. We're gonna get tight ends and the depth chart is, then you have MacDonald number one Xavier grumbling assume number two in then gentry the rookie for Michigan is I assume number three on the chart I don't even know. Is there a dash this position? Do they keep all three? I say, yes, you have all three here, you have to keep all three because you're gonna play two tight end sets you're gonna play twelve personnel, which was the second most popular offense of grouping Lascher. So you're gonna have to you gotta have a backup if either one of those guys get hurt and I could see I could see that country getting a helmet on game day for that. Very reason that if you have a lot of twelve personnel in your office of game plan for that week, you gotta keep that extra tied it in case one of those guys get hurt. Or also, if you wanna go jumbo and run with three tight is in the red zone. You need that other tiny you could replace that guy with the tackle. But having that extra tied in on a roster on game day in case of injury. I could see happening. I agree. I think they all make it and could be like you said a game day a game day, inactive could be for gentry. He could be inactive on a lot of days because if they're going to carry an extra tackle they need a third tight end and probably gonna bring a Taqwa because it's a heavy package. So we'll say, let me give you let me give you a caveat to that gentry could be a dash is, well where you still wanna keep three gentry is not the guy you cut him late at the end of training camp. And you pick up a third tied in veteran guy off the waiver wire. They could go that route as well. But you still have three tight ends. Yeah. I like how Ron in the live chat. He labeled the tight end depth chart as McDonald fumble end zone then gentry because. Major Grable was done feistier for his inexplicable fumble into the end zone against the Denver Broncos. Rip myself myself. Jeff sure for a take that I had on this show when exam your grumble fumbled, and I really tried to defend him last year saying that, that stuff just happens in football is also fourth, but I really watched that play this year. Those are dumb ass football player. That was a dumb ass play. He had the entire field to his right. If he just cuts to his inside. He he trucks, the guy into the end zone. That was a dumb ass football play. I just wanted to rip myself for taking that asinine take on the show that was done by favor grumble last year or would be just one of those top gun movements where he just laying on the brakes any flies, very by and you walk into the answer. Yes. I mean, anything but creating a coalition you're the fall could get dislodged. You have so much room to avoid a collision, but you just want a truck, the dude. Yep. And got trucked and lost the football. Just just not smart. Yeah. That was just one of the many gaffes that lead to the demise of a one time seven to one football team finishing nine six one. All right. So let's go to the offense of line. Do you wanna do this as a total? Or do you wanna do this by position for since? We say, okay, how many tackles are they going to carry? How many guards centers etcetera? What are your thoughts how to handle this? Let's go bar position. So let's go left tackle to right tackle. Okay. I think that if we're talking left tackle, I'll, we know the starters, we know let's go starters. Let, let let let's go. Let's pinzel in the starters and back us blest, go from like left tackle left guard center, right guard. Right tackle this. Tackles, obviously, I think your big alma left on the right. I'm assuming mad filers gonna win that battle barring chain Szucs core for coming out and really doing well then you had to Castro and foster garden pouncey at center. That's, that's what it will be. Actually, I want to give a big shot out, too, big alexan-, Ella, hydro villain, the oh, who's now a graduate of Carnegie Mellon. So big up to him. We're both fellow alums of Carnegie Mellon University. So big up to pig at. Absolutely. And he was just taking classes in the offseason got NBA. I think so let's go with. Backups now. So we have five that takes to what eighteen. Just for starters. Yes. Yes. Okay. So the backups, I think a core four makes it at one tackle spot. I'm gonna say that. I think Hawkins will make it a toss of the of Hawkins. You have Derwin gray who is the rookie from Maryland. And don't forget about Zach banner who actually made the fifty three man roster last year. He was inactive on most game days, but he's a giant of a man and he, he made the team last year. It's between those three I think they keep two tackles, but they're going to be looking for someone that could be versatile. You gotta have that swing. Gar who's gonna play that swing guard position. Well that thing. So I say they keep two tackles backup tackles. Five turns the seven I think that they keep one interior backup. BJ finney. Yes. I agree into. That's, that's it. I I don't see them. I don't see anything and that's eight that's eight offense. While I don't think they, they keep any more than that because you figure in a game. You drop both tackles. I mean that's probably about right. I can't remember the game. There was a game where they had a rash of offense of line off. It's of lime and injuries. And I'm pretty sure you remember the game where I think they had a tied in lining up ahead. Heath Miller lining up tackle at a tackle position. Correct me if I'm wrong. Vaguely sounds familiar. That sounds about right. Eight sounds about right. Okay. Here's the thing with me. Even talks about the right tackle battle, which is going to be fun to watch between banner Hawkins occur for and filer. Don't forget, Derwin gray gray can also play guard. That is really, really important. Gerald Hawkins also practice at guard during OT as in mini camp, this offseason, again, really, really important because if you can have a swing tackle they can also play guard Babbio another backup interior linemen. So let's say something happens to Markey's penalty. He has to leave the game to get his hand all wrapped up. Whatever, BJ Fini's gonna go in. And if it's an extended injury. Now you have no backup at guard. But if you have a tackle that can bump down. Now, all of a sudden, you're able to keep that patchwork line together. Yes. Filer could bump down to guard. But if he's you're starting right, tackle you don't wanna take him out of that spot. And so of if it's German gray if it's Gerald Hawkins. You know, whoever it may be if they can get on a guard on the left in the right. That's just an added bonus that this usually looking for when it comes to position flexibility you agree or disagree agree with you one hundred percent and position flexibility is determined. That's most often used probably even more than what's determined it. Coach uses all the talk obviously. Exactly. And looking at the lineups in terms of that. Right, tackle position, NFL does a good job of. Detailing how many plays that the most popular lineup played and we look at the most popular line at the most popular lineup played fifty four plays last year in that line of include filer, so Feiler was involved in. Let's see here one two, three four. Of the five most popular lineups that the Steelers had. And when you go down through the rest of the list, but typically because Ramon, Foster's injury filers name shows up on a bunch of different lineups for personnel packages. So, I think they feel comfortable with filer as the starter, I think it would take a lot for someone to unseat him. You know, maybe a draft pick. Maybe Hawkins comes in or Chuck's comes in because you had a pedigree there because they drafted these guys and they really show. But I mean I think this line is probably really comfortable with filer as the starter. They played a zillion place together last year. If you look at these personnel lineups in it just makes sense that filer is that starter? Because ultimately football teams when it comes to rosters you want eliminate unknowns. You wanna you wanna limit you want to eliminate as many unknowns as possible. So you have confidence on what a player's gonna give you when you put that player out there on the field. Yeah. Days in the live chat curse of mine on the preview, which airs Thursday night. He said, you know, they kept they kept nine last season and he was telling us that we have enough spots left to keep nine and he said, they'll keep nine unless they need twenty six players on defense. So that'll be interesting. He said key, his gesture would be keep nine with eight active. So always having that extra tackle or guard, which this was act banner last year was always inactive every game day. So that is a possibility as well. But if we are Jeff wh-what, what number are we at if we get some line, we got eighteen we got nine line three wide. Receivers six hours easy tidings as eighteen eighteen in seven ish twenty five so I think we're at twenty five on offense. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dave, but I think we're at twenty five okay? So. There you go. Let's keep it there, and then we'll be able to look at the defensive side and see. Okay. Or are they gonna need more defenders? Are they? Or is this a other positions? We can revisit on the offense inside and say, well they could always throw in another another player here, there will got room for twenty five 'cause you're gonna get three specialist. You're gonna get a place kicker punter long snapper rights. He daisy were a twenty five right now with nine linemen. Yes. So we'll have twenty five. You know we have twenty five to play with right now. We are Twenty-eight roster spots, but three of those guys are special so those are taking so we got twenty five to play with on a defensive side of football. Yeah. Look at these position battles. I mean there there are some right tackle wide receiver backup running back backup quarterback when it comes to starters there really isn't a lot. There's not a lot of juice for the training camp battles on the offensive side of the football because even even wide receiver. I don't think it's a battle of who's gonna play. It's it's where do they fit? You know it's it's what does Moncrieff do. Well that can add the offense. We know a juju does what is James Washington able to do. Well, I don't think this is a matter, a case of who's gonna play more than the other. I think it's just going to be of. How can they best take what they do? Well, and, and you lies that within their offense really tease my next show. Yeah, I said it looking to the. Passed to predict the future and just looking at their most popular personnel grouping on the office side of football eleven personnel, three wide receivers. Warm running back one side in. So the question is, when you look at that is, who are going to be the wide receivers in that mix. I think we all know it's gonna be juju Smith Schuster. The question will be who will be the two wide receivers in that mix. Will it be more fluid this year with no Antonio Brown? No. I mean as we go into training camp. I don't think the number two why receiver position settled. So that will be the question. I think largely when you think of this offense next year because they ran seventy percent or total place, seven hundred twenty eight snaps where in eleven personnel, so you need to wide receivers to feel that out with juju Smith Schuster. So it's gonna be an interesting camp to figure out who those players are gonna be. Yeah. I agree hundred percent. So makes you check out this guy said that'll air on be pub. On wednesday. So makes you check that out on behind the curtain dot com and be a good one. So at this point in time is where we wanted to open up for some questions. It's the off season. We there's tons of stuff to talk about. So a lotta times answering your questions is just kind of made the show interactive. I really liked you. Rapid fire heavy. Just fire some questions out wins instant quickly get through as we can't. But if you're watching live on YouTube, and you wanna make sure that your questions answered then by all means you can certainly use the super chat feature. I call it the tip jar. And what it is. When you're in the little chat, where you can enter your tax on the right easy, little money sign. You hit that money sign unit or any amount of money. It'll highlight your question, and your comment will stay at the top, and we'll see it in guaranteed. The answer now Felicia has always already been giving us a tip jar of ten. Poten- bucks. The tips to announce her presence with authority in the question. She said, I was late here. I am and she's here. Do. Tip jeff. And I'm sure we have some hip hop feds. You know, every time I hear tip, I think of tip drill not tip jar. If you know, it tip drill is you see net video. That's. I think of tips okay? Okay. Let's see here. Here we go. First question will three running stress at every Sunday. What if all you're breaking news alerts had voice, what would that sound like it would sound like today explained? It's daily news podcast from vox. I'm Sean Ramos, groom everyday my team, and I take one essential new story, politics, two movies sports science, and we break it down into twenty minute episodes perfect for your ride. Home subscribed today. Explain on apple podcasts or wherever you listen, from Stitcher, and the vox media podcast network. No, I don't think so. I say, yes, I think they do. Okay. Let's, let's tease their forward. So, you know, you guess annuals, right? You know, you got James Connor, and, you know, Sammy will play in an eleven personnel package, when Connors getting a blow presumably, because he's verse allotted backfield. Right. And the Steelers don't really play tied at two two running back personnel groupings that much. In fact, they only played fifty nine plays last year of two running backs two tight ends. So this is snail the he's a special teams guy is that why dresses. I just I think they're going to utilize more backs this year. I don't think it's going to be vigorous feature backup said that openly a multiple sh is. But I think they're gonna you is more backs. And therefore, I think that Snell's gonna get a helmet and he'll probably play special teams to. Hasso. So let's say he gets a helmet. Right. And he plays a special teams. He's, he's running back in eleven personnel with no Samuels. And no Connor feels like who snaps. He take away, he taken away. Samuels. I think if, if carnival, I think Samuels is going to be used in certain again, it's kinda like the way I described the water heaters. It's what you do best. And how can you help the offense? Maybe they turn him into a goal line back. You know shortage Sweden. I don't trust Mike Tomlin. He likes to run wheel. So I don't trust. I'm gonna trust at Mike Spann Amana Jim like he always has, you know, break, a guy Dow okay Lynnwood length. His do you think that Sutton Mitha brook? You'll beat out. Knicks. No. I do not Lance. Do you think he'll be next? You just got a contract last off season. No now I don't I think they're using him in the fullback situation kind of like the patriots throw a guy into certain possessed you know, they utilize guys in different ways. Maybe it's a gimmick play. Maybe it certain. I don't know. I don't think adding Roosevelt makes his job is safe. Ron asked do they keep nine linebackers. Well Ron, you're gonna have to find out next week when we talk about the defensive side of the football of that. Yeah. Tonight. Wow. Jeff the flagship, what all right. Do you think Trey Edmunds running back will be on the practice squad as insurance in case of injury? Is he practice squad? Eligible is the question I believe he was activated last year. It comes down to experience. He was with the saints. I'm fuzzy fuzzy on practice squad. Today's go fuel question. That's his nerd, nerd them. Here's the thing. I, I mean you can you can find running backs if you need one in a pinch. So I, I don't know if you need to take a, you know, practice squad spot for running back. You can find those guys they'll be a bunch of guys and week six without jobs that you can bring in. Yeah. Okay. Flip asked. Is it real competition between Chris Boswell, and Matt, right kick her from UCF? No, I don't think so. I think it's a wait and see, I think it's a wait and see with Boswell. I think it's a competition if he misses kicks, but I think he's being given the chance to play himself out of the position. Yeah, I don't think it really is. Because I again, if they cut Boswell unless he's awful in the preseason talk about adventure earlier talk, about throwing the white flag of surrender saying, mandate, we make a huge mistake, and they don't like to do that. That's not that, that's not the MO organization, vodka puts eight dollars into the tip jar. He said since Lance went old school with the baseball had his you only pitcher major league baseball history. Throw a no hitter while tripping on acid. Here's a clue he was a Pittsburgh pirate. Do you know who that I actually knew someone wrote in live chat? But I gotta say, I knew it before Dr Mary. Good. That is correct. Yeah. We are family. He wasn't on that. We he wasn't on the we are. Stocking been weighed on since then. Doc Ellis men tripping on acid thrown in no header, just like another walk in the park. Okay. Will. Yeah. They let's see here. Another question. I saw somewhere. All right, okay. We'll eight you know the questions kind of dried up. That's fine. We appreciate all those people that did participate in the QNA session. Felicia. Thank you very much as always. I do have to say. And if there's more questions pop up, we'll get to I before we went live on the air. I said to lands. Hey, man. Have you heard all these details about the lady on bell after one jury situation, and he said, no, what are you talking about? And I said, okay, and I started to kind of explain how he had over five hundred thousand dollars of jewelry stolen from him in Florida and he's done anything else. This sounds juicy save it for the show, so you get my live reaction. Okay. So here is here's how this we're gonna go on a time line. 'cause news filtered its way out as more documents became public. So lady on bell calls. The police report that he had over five hundred thousand dollars of jewelry stolen from him in Miami, and his Hollywood. Home in Florida in so the police report states that he said that his girlfriend's plural stole his jewelry. Let me pause. You. Lady on needs to consult with a OG to give him rules on how to trick. You can't bring him to your house. That's rule. Number one. Check into the Ritz under an assumed name. Oh. Let me let me give you. Okay. So during on the police report, he was unable to identify his girlfriend's I'm using air quotes in again. Emphasizing the s at the end plural. He didn't know their names. So okay, so immediately when I hear this, I'm thinking he brought grows home, whether it's from the club, whether it was an escort, whether whatever it was he brought them home to his home. He did not follow the oggi's advice, obviously. So, you know, the girl's name was Hiddensee girls may was being, you know, candy, sprinkles, whatever I mean. Yeah. He didn't know your name was sprinkles. Can you know, okay so, you know, we've been there. We've all been we know some of us have been there where, you know, we're sprinkles. Two key are coming home to the house, so he has the grows over and in the nine one one recording. This. Made public radio unknowns explaining to the nine one one operator that when he went to go work out where wrapping. One is he free style? I don't think so. I don't know. Then he basically he, he left the girls naked. So he got rob. But the girls are still naked in the room he left, he left them in the room. So go work out. He brings it grows back. He's, he's Groesbeck they play twister. And then after the twister game is over. He leaves them and he goes to work out. They wake up they get dressed. They steal stuff and he has out of four because he does. For all you young cats listening to the program. I hate to give you this information, but you might need. It is called trick a kick, right? Once you trick, then you kick after you do your tricking. You do your kicking your trick in the U kick them out trick, and kick, you can't invite hit a ac- Chardonnay to the house, leaving your bad, but naked and give them free run. Well, just hand them the jewelry. I just wanna make a quick sidebar stated lances opinions or his opinion, only no wave. River, the tation of behind steel curtain dot com. Jeff Hartmann said editor of website, or Espy, nation or vox media any complaints directed. Strictly to Lance Williams. I'm so I'm sorry. I'm sorry, if I'm giving you the real but trick. So that was it. And so he got a, a half a million dollars worth of jewelry stolen. He's never gonna see it again. He has no way to identify the girls. He so you know what that means you if he was high, too. I, I guess I, I just fish real meat is if somebody stole five hundred thousand dollars worth of anything from you, that's a face. You would never forget. Yeah. Well, I guess, but still he doesn't how, you know, identity. I mean, unless you see her you've have no way. You don't know real name. You don't know where she's from or anything else where he bought her. Yeah. I. I got receipts he knows I had talked about this story because it's been out for most of it had been out for a week. And we talked the preview we talk about this. Like I don't wanna talk about this. Sounds like we'll do it on Sunday. These Jeff, he's clearly not telling everything he bought the two. He knows where he got him from eighty knows where he went to get him from. He just got played like a herb. He's, he's idiot. So, like, maybe Kobe, that's idiot bozo. Amateur hour stuff. George did say you know, he did bring up the fact that lady on bell did state when he was a Pittsburgh when he was little Garrett blunt that he was not aware that you could get a DUI for driving while a high on marijuana and stuff like that leads you to believe. He, he sounds like he's where do with money but doesn't know how to play that game. He needs to call in for instructions to somebody because you can't leave Chardonnay in glitter in. Yeah. I like candy candy and skill. Skittle lady on, we're not laughing at you were laughing with you. Okay. Mike. And I will you can't leave assorted goodies around your at least have the jewelry in safe. They probably got it for cash to he. Well he here's the thing. My question is signed this lucrative contract. Why are you reporting the stolen you know, it's gonna go public, you know, people are going to hear about it. You know, your reputation, which has already a little sour is gonna take a hit. Why not just say man, they rob me five hundred thousand bucks? Okay. I'll put my first game check towards my new jewelry. You just. You're exactly right. Like that's why all the cough like your is hood Justice. Right. You just make a couple of calls. Somebody knows who Jack you for the jury because people talk. All you gotta do is a couple of calls. They'll find your jewelry you probably get back. Yeah. He's not a street. Do why he he's, he's not a street dude. That's not a bad thing. But you can't play street games. If you not a street, do clearly do not have candy. Margarita marker come to your house. See, that's why you don't have them come to your house, do rob motel, and what you do is before you start doing whatever she begins you put the jewelry into safe. They're playing twister. Just playing fester. Cillian planes. Take his exactly scrabble. I think it was scrabble being probably probably spades. Parcheesi. Hey. We did one final question here. Lance before we call it a show. And that is quite asked you lands ever plan on meeting in person because if you haven't listened or you didn't know I've been in this show for five seasons or something with Lance, and we've never met in person talks on the phone text the time clearly, we do the show once a week or it's in Pittsburgh. So I can't. I got war cross. I will say this, the next time it lands banks his way east. And if it's the Pittsburgh, I'll do the best that I to get back to where I'm from where I am right now willing, West Virginia and we'll meet up in Washington didn't know. You gotta you knew a place in Washington. Didn't you? It was a place that you said, you went to college, where mino- oxygen wasn't there. A. Hi, I'm every truffle men and I'm hosting curbs new podcast. Nice, try it stories about how people have tried to design a better world. And what happens when those designs don't go according to plan season. One is called utopian. And it's about the perpetual search for the perfect place. 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Let's Ride: The off-season will be a critical period in Steelers history

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Let's Ride: The off-season will be a critical period in Steelers history

"Pittsburgh steelers fans go on this. Is jim hartman co editor behind a steel curtain dot com with you for another monday wednesday. Friday podcast this. Let's ride morning. Show every monday wednesday in my. Gosh it's friday. This week is flown by. I hope that you've enjoyed it. I i gotta tell. A quick story started show off. And if you listened to my podcast for any length of time enormous storyteller. I love to tell stories. Always have always will and so there months where you can follow me on twitter at j hartman h. a. r. t. m. a. n. underscore pat in one of my followers. Says hey jeff. I just wanted to apologize and say thank you at the same time. He wanted to apologize that he hadn't been able to catch all of our podcast like he does during the season but he wanted to thank me because he never misses my. Let's ride podcast. He's no matter what. I never miss the monday wednesday friday. Let's ride and the this show is my show. It's just me. Yeah might have dave scofield on. I had kevin smith on wants but this is my show and so i had a very loyal group on twitter at least of listeners that they never miss an episode. And i'm calling in my ride or die crew. The let's ride show my rider die crew. So if you know that you're right now and i know there's several out there. If you're part of the writer dike crude that means that no matter. What season season off season doesn't matter. You never miss a. Let's ride pod Podcast you're part of the crew. Maybe i'll get like stickers or something that'd be pretty cool if you're a writer die if you're part of the writer died crawl cindy a sticker. Maybe i'll do that but still wanna be big shoutout to that listener as well as all my listeners. That take a bit of their day thirty minutes whether it's whenever of wherever you listen. Maybe it's in the morning on your morning. Commute arabia drinking your coffee in the morning. Or maybe it's in the afternoon your way. It doesn't matter when you listen. It's just the fact that you listen. I appreciate you. I appreciate you more than you'll ever now. And i gotta say it as i always do this. This website by steel curtain dot com. This podcast platform is a part of behind a steel dot. Com is part of this nation. Which is a part of ox media. So make sure you check behind this curtain dot com for all your latest news commentary features film room. You name it all right so we always start to show off because in the off season there's less shows there's not as much focus on the minute scholley thing like injury report podcast. Mike tomlin press conferences. I was. I started the show off with news. It might have happened. Light didn't realize this. Until i re listened to my last show. I totally forgot to talk about the news at any last. I kinda did touch on that. During the mailbag segment. If you missed it go back and check that out. If on wednesday you actually gave a question if you actually submitted a question and you haven't gone back. I answered every single one of them to go back and check that out but the news. It's happened this week is first and foremost. The steelers made it official. That matt candidate is the offensive coordinator and so when that was hired the same day that he was made official. Because we kind of knew this for a couple of weeks also fernando. Roberts became the tight end coach. He's got a lot of experience in the nfl Most recently i believe it was with the chargers. And he's also been with the colts and other teams. He's been all around. Used to play for the dallas cowboys. But then today. I'm sorry yesterday thursday. It was reported that eddie faulkner. Who's the running backs coach. He was signed to a two year extension. Now i already know. Because when i wrote that article a several people on social media they hit me up and said why why in the world would the steelers bring this guy back when the steelers were dead. Last in the nfl onto two categories per game and rushing yards per attempt or precarious. Either way. Why would they re sign this coach to a two year extension. Well there's a couple of reasons. Why first and foremost when they don't bring back sean. Seret his the offensive line coach and then they give a the running backs coach a two year extension. Will that tells you where they feel. The issues were in the running game. It wasn't with the backs it was with the people opening up holes. It could be scheme. But there's another wrinkle and there's another layer to this if you look at the relationship with madd canada in eddie faulkner. They have a long history together. They coached together. Multiple stops along the way mainly and most recently before twenty twenty when canada joined the steelers coaching staff as the quarterbacks coach but when faulkner was at nc state canada was the offense coordinator. They work together. Wouldn't be shocked if canada vouched for his guy and said i want him as my running backs coach now at nc state faulkner did not coach running backs. He actually coached tight ends fullbacks he dealt with jalen samuels. Believe it or not because jalen samuels uses an h. Back in that in that offense with jacoby that wolf. Pack offense so that could be another reason why faulkner was back but a lot of fans were really really upset with the fact that the steelers who had such a dreadful running game actually decide to bring back eddie faulkner for a two year extension. But that's just a little glimpse into probably why just a glimpse the big news on thursday in. This happens every year in unless you're a part of the media and sadly i am not a part of media art rooney the second just randomly one day speak to media members normally in a normal year. We're not having covert issues and we're not talking about virtual stuff. He would actually have a select group of writers in his office at the team facility. They would sit down. Reporters would just get to basically pepper. The owner of the pittsburgh steelers with questions and he would give the answers to the best of his ability. Clearly he's not gonna be able to just tell you exactly what he's thinking. What the teams plans are for the draft or what. They're thinking about this that or the other but he does this in. It's totally random and all of a sudden you're on twitter. One day someone starts tweeting out are really the second in an interview says this this this listeners. Now wow where is all coming from. Well this is that entity erupted. Art rooney always does in this leads us into the headline in the topic of this podcast. It is that this offseason the twenty twenty one. Offseason is a critical period in steelers history. There is no way around saying that. It's not this offseason. And i don't even think i i don't even think i should say this is just my opinion. I don't even think i should say in my opinion. I'm saying that as of now this offseason is critical for the future of the pittsburgh. Steelers in there's three main reasons why it's critical three main reasons. I'm gonna start actually had this is number two but i'm gonna put it at number one. It's going to start with the salary cap. The fact that the pittsburgh steelers are up against the cap heading into twenty twenty one. That's a well known fact. The fact that they don't know no one knows what's going to happen with the salary cap is a gigantic elephant. That's been in the room this entire season and even it's gotten bigger in the offseason typically a typical year. The nfl will say. We're not sure if it's going to go up. It typically does but we're not sure how much it's going to go up. And it has increased about ten million dollars every year due to revenue. Increasing new television deals things of that nature a currently sits at one hundred ninety eight point two million dollars for this twenty twenty season. But what's going to happen. Prior to the league year in that starts in march we have a month to figure that out but until then there's been a lot of rumors around the salary cap. There's been rumors around the cap going up. Even there are some agents that have been out there that have said there's no way that the nfl the a league that is about to get massive new contracts with tv stations stations i e espn cbs fox. Nbc all those stations are going to be rehabing with the pittsburgh with with the pittsburgh steelers but with the nfl. This offseason so that means that they're going to be bringing in millions upon millions of dollars from each of these organizations so these agents are suggesting that there's no way that the nfl's gonna make all this money without fans being seeds in twenty twenty and they're going to say well the salary caps going to dip. They're saying that it worst it would stay the same would stay at one hundred eight when two and honestly if it did stay set stagnant at one ninety eight point to the steelers could live with that. They could work with that. They could manage that however there is also the option. There is also the possibility that this salary cap will go down now. The the nfl is not a stupid organization and they the nfl pa prior to twenty twenty headset a floor that the salary cap cannot dip below this number. And i've said it a bunch of times on this show you've heard it from other hosts as well if it did s- down to that one hundred and seventy five million dollar floor. Think about that and we would be talking about it. Going from one hundred ninety eight point two down to one seventy five. That's a significant decrease in the cap. Where if a team like the steelers and they're not alone by the way that they're already bellied up to that cap. They're all ready at that point. Oh my goodness what would they do. You're talking about serious cap casualties just to get complacent with the salary cap. You're talking about players. Maybe like joe haden. People have even brought up the name steven nelson. Some have brought up. Vince williams. Some have product players david decastro and the biggest of them. All ben rothlisberger in. What are they going to do with these players. That have really big salary. Cap hits going into twenty twenty one and they need to cut some fat off of their cap again if fans find out if we wake up on friday or saturday or next week. It doesn't matter when and we see the headline that reads. Nfl announces twenty twenty. One salary cap will remain at one. Ninety eight point to every steeler fan should say thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. That's what they should say. Because that means that at one ninety eight point two although not an increase that would give them more cap space. You think about the steelers did have some rollover. They're not going to pick up vance mcdonald's option because he retired they're going to be able to create some room. They're going to be create some room. But this cap goes down and i mean even if it goes down to one ninety. The steelers are going to be in trouble. They're going to be in trouble. And it's gonna lead to decisions being made that could have long lasting ramifications on this organization. This organization is built around sustainability consistency and success. No i know it has not been the success we all hoped and we all want but that is what the steelers are based on and with this salary caps situation being influx being so great and i say because it is not black and white it is anything but black and white. It is one hundred percent gray. No one knows what this clear. Delineation is going to be. And i have to be honest. I don't know if the nfl even knows what this cap is going to be in two thousand twenty one they have. I don't know if they're going to be able to sell that stadiums next year. You hope so you would think that you could. But they don't know that for sure and so if they think that they're just going to be able to up here we go. We're going to be right back into the thick of things we're going to be sold out again and then you find out that that's not the case in. That could certainly happen. That could certainly happened in. That would be a problem if it did happen with the pittsburgh steelers so the salary cap is the first thing. It's the first thing the last. There's two more big big issues that could mean that. This offseason is a critical period in steelers history. Not just right now in steelers history. We'll be back after this break to talk about those things you're different and that's a good thing you understand the importance of blazing your own trail even if that means insisting that those are acceptable everyday shoes. What's tricky though. Is that all those things that make you. You also make your taxes really hard to do. That is what turbotax lives for. Turbo tax live has assembled a massive team of tax experts. Who understand that. Your tax situation is unique. And they're here to help best of all right now you can file a simple return for free and get totally free personalized advice from turbo tax. Live expert until february fifteen. 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And so let's talk about the next factor. I said there were three. We already talked about one with the salary cap. The next factor as to why this offseason is a critical period in pittsburgh steelers history and that is none other than the man that art rooney talked about the most when he met with media on thursday. That was benjamin. Todd rothlisberger honest when you look at the salary cap situation. And that's why. I said that. I when you look at that caps situation it so tough to just kind of say well outside of our office burgers forty one million dollar cap it. You can't say that if they were to somehow go down to that floor that one hundred and seventy five million dollars in you're talking about one player making up forty one of that one seventy five that i mean shoot pittsburgh pirates stuff right there you know. Let's pay one guy all this money and everyone else gets piddling. It just can't happen in art rooney talked about. They want ben rothlisberger back in. That might be the news that you don't wanna hear on friday. In ben rothlisberger in his agent came out and said they want to come back. But there's this giant but not talking about like a human but on talking about a but like you know in a sentence they want then back ban wants to come back but there's at forty one million dollar issue that they need to figure out and i'll say this again say a million times because dave scofield says it all the time and that is ben. Rothlisberger is not due to make forty one million dollars in twenty twenty one ben rothlisberger salary cap. Hit is forty one million dollars in twenty twenty one. I think he's due to make about nineteen million but his cap hit has increased because of the restructuring of contracts so art rooney says we want ben back for short and i get it look at the depth. They have behind him. Mason rudolph and dwayne haskins. That's it right now. Not the most confident. You know. it doesn't give you that warm fuzzy feeling deep down your belly thinking oh this is so nice. This is exactly what we won the get that feeling you get the feeling of. Wow then doesn't come back might be in trouble. So rothlisberger wants back. They want him back and he wants to come back but they're all saying the same thing we have to figure out what to do with his contract and what scares me as a fan is that i'm afraid of what they're gonna do to get the contract decreased. Put that way if rothlisberger means what he says and he did come out on thursday as with his agent and they put out a statement. The basically said we want to come back. We don't care about the money will do whatever it takes to make it work for the steelers. It's essentially not verbatim. Were paraphrasing here. But that's what he said. So when you say that okay how creative can this steelers give the contract. you still owe. You still owe that forty one million. You're going to have to pay the piper sooner or later. So what did you say. Well why don't we give me an extension That's the worst thing i wanna hear. I really worst thing. I want to hear because if ben wants to come back after the season. I'm all for it if he's playing. Well i just don't want to just keep kicking the can down. The street is an analogy. I use every week. It seems like he keep kicking the can down the street. Eventually you have to pick it up and so the steelers could give him an extension. Give him a lot of that money via the signing bonus and then they can defer the money later down the road. I saw someone on twitter. He suggested a four year extension. You basically bumped the money back you give them a signing bonus you can get his cap hit down like maybe one something one point. Whatever million in twenty twenty one. That sounds great but eventually you're gonna have to pick it up so the steelers have to be smart. They have to be creative. I think at this point whether rothlisberger comes back or not. I think it's kind of a moot point. We were at one time saying is he gonna come back. Should come comeback to. The steelers won him back. I think at this point when the when the team president comes out in the quarterback himself come out and say i want to come back and we want him back pretty much sealed the deal in my opinion so rothlisberger him coming back boy. Do they need to have his contract. Locked up away in a way. That is really really manageable for this team. The worst case scenario is rothlisberger. Plays twenty twenty one with a forty one million dollar campaign when we talked about that salary. Cap could be disastrous. So ben rothlisberger clearly is one of these reasons because let's talk about steelers history. He's a big part of it in this offseason. If the steelers botch this he walks away in the team goes into the tank. Were always gonna point back to this offseason in say if they just would have done this or if they just would have done that if they could have just gotten this deal done. That's this that's how important some of this stuff is. We're talking about here. So the salary cap was number one rothlisberger and his contract was number two. Now let's head to the third and look. I don't think that one is bigger than the other in this situation me. I don't think that the salary cap is larger than roth. Asperger's cap hit this coming up. I don't think that the other way. Around and i also don't think that the ridiculous number of free agents that the steelers have you know what to be honest with you when i think about it as i speak out loud. All three of these things are intertwined. You look at rothlisberger. What they do with him is also based on the salary cap. The salary cap ward. Go up to two twenty this year. They probably just pay then his forty one million and then be done. But that's probably not going to happen. These free agents talk about well if the salary cap worn influx they would sign the ones they want to keep and they'd let everyone else walk and they'd get compensatory picks for them. But when you look at this list of players. Wow i mean i can't. I've been covering this team for behind the curtain dot com for probably six seasons. Now seven. i don't even remember and goodness gracious. I have not seen a list of unrestricted free agents like this in my time with the website. Let me read us some of these names for you and let's keep in mind as i'm reading. These names in the back of your head always remember. They don't have any cap room in the salary. Cap to go. Like i said these three things are intertwined. So here we go. Bud dupree tops the list towards acl. No-one knows what he said. He's going to be good. That'll be ready for next season. Who knows we don't know right now. The budget pre free agent alejandro villanueva. Everyone says that he's played poorly. He doesn't give up sacks he doesn't give up pressures. I understand that. He's getting older. What are this is going to do that. You're starting left tackle like him or not. That is your starting left tackle. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent. Year avery williamson. A lot of people didn't like the signing of williamson room. Sorry the trade with the jets every williamson. But i thought he did exactly what they brought him in to do. They brought him in to be veteran depth. He did that he played well. He is not supposed to be playing next to events williams. He's supposed to be playing next to a devon bush. He's just not the f. Athlete so he was exposed a little bit vince. Williams gets exposed when he doesn't have a ryan cheesier or a devin bush playing next to him. But every williamson unrestricted free agent. Mike hilton one of the best. Live receivers in the nfl. He's an unrestricted free agent. If you haven't checked out the market for slot cornerbacks yet a recently. It's through the roof. Mike helton could be on matt. Feiler ended the year with on injured reserve. He played in the playoff game. Didn't play that well. I'm not shocked. He hadn't played in about six weeks but might filer. He was a starting offensive lineman at left guard. And he is an unrestricted free agent. It keeps going tyson all awalu. He was one of your linchpins on the defensive front. He can play nose tackle. He can play defensive end. He is versatile as they come on restricted free agent zach banner towards acl. First week week. One monday football at new york. A lot of people were thinking that he might be able to come back on the cheap navy a one year. Deal to your deal with the most he and szucs core be your tackles especially if you let villanueva walk. Still he gotta sign him in with what with what money. Juju smith schuster. He was the veteran of the receiving corps. That doesn't say much. He's also stolen very young player very productive. I've thought he had a great season. The numbers might not have been through the roof. But the steelers spread the ball around a lot but juju smith schuster got a ton of targets. Those targets could all be gone. Unrestricted free agent. J ron elliott cast marsh jordan. Bury their all unrestricted free agents. Not really as notable. Chris warmly danny isadora. He's the right guard that they brought it off the practice squad towards the end of the season. Sean davis is an unrestricted free agent. Jordan dangerfield is an unrestricted free agent. Cam sutton is an unrestricted free agent. Now when you look at sean davis he was backup just south. He played special teams. Didn't look the same as when he was a pittsburgh before his injury. His shoulder injury jordan dangerfield is the team. Captain last season with on special teams cameron sutton was their dime backer filled in well. He's versatile cornerback. He can play inside. He can play outside he complain. Nickel dime doesn't matter. He's an unrestricted free agency. Look at the secondary. Their davis dangerfield and sudden. That's a lot of depth that they all go because they're all restricted. That's going to hurt your team. James conner the running back. He's an unrestricted free agent. Are they comfortable with benny snell. Junior comfortable jalen same in his last year is rookie deal. What about anthony mcfarland. James conner unrestricted free agent. Gerald hawkins is restricted. Free agent joshua dobbs as an unrestricted free agent so those are just the restrictive free agents. I feel like. I spent thirty minutes of my life going through that list. But then there's also restricted free agents and exclusive rights free agents. So ray ray. Mcleod is a restricted free agent. Marcus allen is an exclusive rights. Free agent Ola danny as a restricted free agent and jc. Now and roberts player. Bill exclusive rights. Free agents okay. Now the list is done. You're taking a look at all those names and you think to yourself. What did i tell you to think about the whole time. I was reading the list. Think about they have no cap space. It don't know what the salary caps going to do. Everything is intertwined. If they can't bring back some of these players they are talking. You're talking about a roster being absolutely decimated absolutely decimated if you lose bud debris all hundred villanueva mike helton. I'm gonna call hilden starter. Because he played that much nad filer tyson. Allah wallow juju smith. Schuster i'll throw jordan barry out there as a specialist. You lose cam sutton in james conner. Those are nine players. Nine players always reminds me of ferris. Buehler's day off now nine times nine players that are starters played significant snaps for the steelers in twenty twenty. That could be gone nine. You're talking about an off season. That is a critical period in steelers history in their history. Not just odd. It's it's an important point of the year and they're going to have to figure things out if they mismanage this and if that salary cap goes down this could be a turning point in the wrong direction for the steelers. I don't mean to be all doom and gloom. But that's just the reality that's the reality the steelers face right now in. No one expected the covid nineteen situation to put a damper on the salary cap. But you know what they did expect they did know they knew the rothlisberger is going to be forty one million at some point they also knew that some of these players were going to be unrestricted free agents. That's not a surprise. So the steelers. Did you want to blame someone. They can only blame themselves. All right let's finish this up still going to do the heart to heart finish up and a lot of fans might be kind of frustrated with my heart to heart this week and the reason being is who i'm going to talk about and i wrote an article about this believe it or not you can check it out still where you can google it if you go to behind the curtain dot com. I did a letter from the editor. If for those that. Want to know. When i feel the need to do a commentary piece but it's not really structured around anything. It's just kind of my own thoughts. I will do a letter from the editor because it's just a way for me. It's a it's a little a vessel so to speak for me to get my thoughts out there to the world and i did a letter from the editor said. Can't stand tom. Brady but man do i. Respect is game. Think about. I mean think about it folks try i i hate tom brady more than anything because i don't hate anyone united. I have a strong dislike for tom. Brady this guy has been a thorn in the steelers side. For how many years and then right when you think the guys leaving the afc. He's no longer with the patriots. That dynasty is done. He's in the flipping super bowl again. He oh my goodness gracious. I can't stand. Tom brady but at the same time if you can't look at what he's done and say he's the greatest ever do it then. You have such a bias against him. You're not willing to admit the truth. Tom brady is forty three years old and he still i know he threw three picks in the nfc championship game. Trust me. plenty of readers pointed that out in the comments section of my article but man is this guy good and it makes me sick to my stomach. I wanna puke. I wanted a pew. Why honestly. I don't aaron rodgers either but rather see aaron rodgers and patrick mahomes do it out in the super bowl. Call the state farm super bowl. I don't care what you wanna call it. The deceit tom brady back in the super bowl. And i'm already sick and tired of the kansas city chiefs of patrick mahomes him and his sideshow bob haircut. Get out of here. I'm sick of a. I don't like seeing him with troy paulo malu on those commercials that patrick price if my kids say is that patrick one more time i'm gonna go beserk okay but tom brady goodness. When is it going to end. When is it going to end. When can we get this guy out of our lives from an nfl standpoint. Someone tell me as much as i can't stand in goodness. He's so freaking good. You know there's people that you run into in your life. Maybe it was when you were younger. Maybe his high school. You just couldn't stand. Maybe they were just so popular. Good looking like oh man. I wanna hit him right in the face just because he's so perfect. That's like tom brady. He really i mean when you think about it he's just been dominant and so good for so long he just a man. It's just bad just bad. But you gotta give him props you have to give him props why because he is phenomenal. He is great he is tremendous. He's been very good for the nfl. Even though there's been a lot of issues with the patriots and the scandals but still gotta give props when promises do. I'm not saying. I wanted to win the super bowl. I don't want the chiefs to win either. This is awful. I'm not looking for to the super bowl. All right folks. That does it for me. It's a wrap on. Our hard segment interrupted this week. There's no football this weekend. That's kind of a bummer. E can watch the senior bowl if you want and get into that college football that two thousand and twenty one draft mode otherwise. I'll be back with you. Monday morning breaking down all the latest news from the weekend as well as getting you fred for this week. Kenya for the super bowl. So all right. That's it have a great weekend. Everyone as we always finished it out. be safe. And god bless go steal wilson off.

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Steelers Stat Geek: For the Steelers offense, success starts at the very beginning

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Steelers Stat Geek: For the Steelers offense, success starts at the very beginning

"Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to another episode of Steeler Stat. Geek coming coming at you once again. This is Dave Scofield. Deputy editor of behind the steel curtain and joining me. One more time and one on our over more than one more time. It'll it's going to continue to be. Is My big brother rich curry rich. How are you doing this? Lovely festive evening. Yeah well out here. In the western part of Maryland were sitting in the snow and so with Christmas coming up. I decided you know what the Santa Hat steeler style. Now looking forward to some more football yes now you are definitely one hundred percent going to be at this game on Sunday. Correct correct not Kyle Kyle. No because I can't change it 'cause I never see them win right correct so yeah yeah. I don't know that I'm going to be there where what yes yes I did. I had a chance to tell you about this. If anyone out there is interested in going to the game I am looking to into to sell the tickets right now. Because it's very difficult for one Ryan. Anthony Davis to get to the game and get back and everything anything to carry on with regular business Monday. It's not it's not set in stone but if someone wanted to tickets were where we're looking at that I've had some inquiries quarries but we'll have to make a decision here soon so I can't say if I'm going to your mail on. Here's the problem Here's the problem. The problem is Davis. No no problems be. I've already gone to three games. This year including the preseason and two of them have already been primetime games. I was at the first preseason game which was a this was at a Fri- that was a Friday night game and then I was at the Monday night game against the dolphins and I really try the middle of the night it again and have that screwed up for several days because I'm going to be up super late writing anyway now. I'd have to come back and then begin writing stuff for the website so I I I'd like to go to bed because out. Okay okay ditch the way for kids to come up here right after the game with Alex and and then come back and stay here. I'll drive you can write while I drive. Say Dun. We're going again here we go. Here's NAP nineteen sixty three. Who we were going to go tailgate with which like I said still a possibility? He says he hasn't missed a home game in five years. I WANNA know. How far away do you live from from the stadium because it's a three and a half hour drive and everything back to where I live I am not as far west Maryland is my brother. He is as far west as you can go. He is right on the cusp of of Pennsylvania. Selena and West Virginia there where me I am out past the really skinny part of Maryland so down into enemy territory. Sorry Kyle saying there's going to be left seat. Go Tell Ya I out of not doing well because something would have to give because in case you all did not here. Let's let's dive into some little bit in case you haven't heard the news from this evening that to that I was surprised. They announced it today. I thought it would wait till later in the week but once again the steelers. Because it's a primetime game. They're going with the color rush uniforms. Yeah I saw that and the first thing I thought of was you. Where in the helmet with the color rush? I mean it was perfect yes. The bottom line is very flux situation. Right now we're looking into into various things kind of seeing how things play out. And how stuff could work with Brian. I mean we were all Gung Ho about it but you know what I just. It's very simple just make. I'd just have Brian Dr Partway while I write and then I'll draw partway while he writes and we can. We can help help. I'll come through there but you're going to be there. You're going to be there what Brian's listening in. Yeah well He. He has been so tables. See Ron Ron Essay. Now that if we lose because cow goes it's my fault so all right so we got one down for Kyle attending the game Yeah so let's west. I see your question we're gonNA. We're GONNA Kevin stuff coming this week but I'm gonNA bring up cody's comment because he used the super chat feature which is where you can type in a comment or question if it's a question question I'm GonNa ask you to hold off for a little bit because we're GonNa get into some stuff here and I don't WanNa lose them And you type it in donate any hit the a dollar sign down there donate any dollar amount. You want to the show. Don't feel like you have to do it but if you want if you want what you say that definitely be brought up. That's one way to do it. So two dollars into the tip jar Charta say five zero with the color rush which is a which is a fantastic number to bring up and let me see. I'm trying to think I have been. I've been at three of those five. I've I've been at three those five so I kind of almost feel obligated to go with Colorado. 'cause we were at it was you and I were at the Tennessee game and then last year I could. I could not sell my tickets to the Patriots game for the life of me and even though I was busy I had had to drop everything else. All all these activities with the kids right before Christmas go to that Patriots game which was fantastic and then I was there earlier this year when they played the dolphins. Let's so I'm three with Colorado. So so that's that's that's pretty good Click off of that for a second second. Let's we don't WANNA run over tonight. Let let let's go to get some numbers. GimMe Gimme another you. I May I the mindset in a set of three numbers. You're ready Yup. Four sixty six and three. Oh so yours is caused mind. Mind was a set of numbers on a set of four numbers. Okay Okay Sixty six eight okay. So let's go with what let's go with mine. Okay take your four four first downs opening drive. They doubled their season total because they only had four total on the season. Going into this game. Right Sixty six. That's the number of yards. They gained on the opening. Drive that more than double their a yards for the season because they were sitting at fifty eight and then of course what I said I wanted more than anything I think I said. On the burning question. Three three points on the opening drive doubling their season total for opening drives I what a touchdown have been great absolutely but mad at this point. I'm like just give me some I nouns don't turn it over and even better go get support now. They were aided by a penalty or down. But but you know what I don't care they got boswell would range. They actually did. It was the first time they've scored neutra and had first downs. So my other two numbers on that are in connected a little bit in some the the thirteen and the eight guys so opening drive was thirteen. Plays our team place for eight minutes eight minutes and it's on the dot com eight minutes on the dot thirteen place. 'cause I down. We took thirty yard field goal. We took our drive and we held the ball for over half the quarter on her dress. Yes boy wasn't that Nice. Yeah I mean it was. It was great. Now let's let's break it down a little bit so so we'll we'll break this down here you geico because because we'll we'll get into some stuff with this a little bit. He go I play shotgun. RUN JALEN SAMUELS MINUS three yards not the way to start okay. Second play shotgun care. Th White Thirteen Yard Rush I down dip. I did not get to see this. Get home until you see this Dr. Why I to listen to the first defensive drive on the radio because the stream would not work on my phone as I was traveling as I was travelling home and but it did work on my ipad once I got home so by the way that was twice longest run of the day? Yes yeah although he he did. He's pretty pretty much on every run he had it right. That was his longest one day and it was only one rush longer on the day. Yeah Jalen Samuels else. One Yard on second nine sack minus four yards so third and thirteen. Okay then we. It was a seven yard completion to Edmonds fifteen yard penalty on top of it because he took a took a smack on that one and there should have been another penalty later on that drive when the one that took O.`Neil Amazon. Yeah and then it was Snell for five on the run. It's it's now for four on the run SNELL for three on the run Samuels for one. Hodges for for six and then the past two samuels for no gain field goal so they only pass the ball twice ice. Well they drop back. They went to pass three times and wanted scrambled for six yards and the one was short in the sticks but they got to penalty and then the other one was short sticks. Don't forget the sack you technically. It's got that it's all yeah. Yeah Yeah yeah the sack I forgot I forgot the sack so yep yep ups that was four so once again not really taking any shots but running effectively so was it a perfect opening drive live by by by no means at all. It was not but it wasn't improvement because of how bad it's been so it wasn't three and a half out. It wasn't three and outs so. So yeah well. And and that's the thing and that's why but but here's the thing if it doesn't if he doesn't bust the second play for thirteen yards where where he gets the first down right. It was the second play. How would we have just been run past punt? We might have. Yeah but the difference was we executed the run. This was executed around. So that's that's that's what happened there so the opening drive. We both wanted to focus on that. So let's move past the opening drive and see if there's anything else you wanted to bring up. Well we brought it up the end the last week. Some of the numbers we were looking cannot moving forward. We did get the thirty five rushing attempts one hundred forty yards for four zero average in. Actually WanNa stop and think about it. We were better than that. Actually that includes the box toward dairy right behind his eight yard. Run if you take that out. It was thirty four Russia's for one hundred in forty eight yards which is four point three five Carey. That's exactly what I laid out in my analyzing the numbers which then when you stop and think about it what what was the touted part of the Arizona Defense. They were supposed to be weak against the past stronger against the run. Not that they were great. We're supposed just to be better at the run than than with the pass but we we added looper six yards per game to their rushing average it just in that one game. Yeah yeah and it was effective. Running and Snell was the only player that got over that got double digit carries. Yes he was the only runner and we actually have an article coming out tomorrow off. Today's press conference which was how are they doing doing the how. How is he going to handle the division of Labor other coach? Thomas talked about in his press conference today. If if James Connors back and they are they are going into week. Take you know. Basically cautiously optimistic about both connor and Smith Schuster being able to come back so so the question is how. How's that going to affect things in the Backfield I? My question was who's not going to get a helmet because I asked the same question when I brought when I did an article about out not remember. WHO's not getting the helmet that was that was for the wide receivers and that question was I said you said Jones Jones right? I said Jones because actually on that. Yeah because some people are like oh well the wide receiver wouldn't get helmet would be holding now. No no no I mean. Ah you're not watching Johnny Holding on special teams. They they they don't need. How many times are the steelers? 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WWW dot stash dot app with the Code espy nation that's www stash dot app with code espy nation to get ten dollars to start. Investing on Stash investment advisory services offered by stash investments commits. LLC AN SEC registered investment advisor for disclosures and to learn how to claim your ten dollars to invest visit www dot stash dot at. That's I'm saying Kane has kind of turned into that guy that they want to try to take a deep shot with his ball trek. He's he's the guy that should be admires holding onto big jumbo. Pack all time. You'RE GONNA take to catch the ball showing he can catch the ball in that deeper out. Absolutely right that's what I would really like to. I see so. That's why I think although he's he's done well they've got the ball to him. It's gotTa be Jones. How many running ambassador going to hand helmets too? That's that's holding. They've gone with four or honestly think edmonds is the one that's that's out. I'm not sure that I would say at bins. But he's a guy that's been lining up at Florida. It's okay but we're only giving out four four helmets so it's either him in my opinion it's either Emerson or Jalen Samuels. Yes I think you're right. I think it's like I said in this article that you you all can read tomorrow on behind the curtain DOT COM is. Don't WanNa get the cart before the horse. And that's exactly what coach was saying is that we got to actually get James Connor conor back. I we've gotTa make sure that Jalen Samuels. Groin is fine as well. 'cause that's that's that's dinged up a little bit. I'm out without a whole lot of controversy. Exactly exactly so. It's it's interesting and yes as Dennis brought up and now Dennis I got to address something with you anyway but he said I just happened to look to see that he was here. Because I've got to answer a question for him is that Edmonds is also on special teams. Yes he does allow allows best teams. Sodas Benny's now they still have him out there doing the special teams which is good stuff but I also WanNa say Dennis I got your email and you have no idea the extent of that question that you asked me that. I'm still working on it and I'm hoping to use it Thursday night on the steelers preview. As as part part of the Stat Geek there so for those of you WanNa know what I'm talking about. You're going to have to tune in Thursday night to see what what Dennis asked me about that took me forever ever to research in order to talk about it with Jeff on Thursday so I think I see we have done super chat here somewhere. Somebody is Every out there we go fan of the show duck. Hodges wants to see the ducks so hey it's very interesting because I actually already heard from On a super fan frenzy with flip I talked to him via email briefly after the game and he hasn't been able to breakdown film yet but I don't think he was very happy with hodges performance. I thought they was actually more good than you've seen with route off for sure for Engro he could but let me tell you where he act where folks are missing that he actually made up a little bit in this game to what I something I think is is missing. Okay you know. He was our third leading rusher. He had five Russia's thirty four yards. Yup six point eight per attempt with a long of twenty two. He scrambled effectively. Yes yes he didn't just sit in the pocket and he stepped up at the pocket and this was the big improvement that I saw from the week before how about on that final drive the role actually scrambling to his laughed to his left and connecting with the Johnson. For for the first time it was there at the end that was fantastic because he had always had a tendency to go right came to the left kind of threw back across his body but he said afterwards after the game he was so wide open. That's that he made the throw anyway. Even though we knew we shouldn't have been throwing that way we funny not the pile on but it just got me thinking when he says. I know that I shouldn't do this and I'm like I'm so tired of hearing a young quarterback being so focused on. What must be doing what they shouldn't be doing that? That's that's the one problem that I have with the current with how they're dealing with our quarterbacks but it might be right no look what he's saying is yes. Come on you see every week you here come. They know better than to throw back across her body inside feel and he knew he shouldn't do that but at the same time he's like another something you don't do but my Gosh Gosh when you see it whereas there I mean you know dot could have thrown a duck. It's probably GONNA get. They're probably still going to get there and be okay. How open opening was? Yeah but and that's a very different scenario from the week before where a lot of people is upset that when he wrote out on the play that he should just taken the sack that he threw away now. James Washington was wide open on the opposite side of the field. But when you're rolling one way to throw that far the hallway across the field that gives a chance for guys get back there make plays lays on it as well. I think it was a much better decision to make the throw. He made this week then. It would have been to make that throw but then again. I'm an offensive lineman and not a quarterback so what am I. What do I know anything from this past game Hold on. Let me peaked at some stuff ahead down. If there was anything interesting you know it was nice Four for twenty and I was GonNa say that was the penalty yardage Bent Denison mentioned earlier. I think about hey no book. No false starts penalty number. Well all right thought T's a little bit Dennis's question that he sent to me to do with penalties bodies does so I'm out here now for anyone in the live chat if you want to throw out your numbers from past week before we move on to next week to see if there's anything specific specific that stood out to you. I WanNa talk about the Sax because I saw this on twitter and I've been answering people's questions I haven't checked it since this morning but there's a discrepancy because there are four players who are credited with a sack and yet the team has five sacks on the game and a lot of people were curious about which sack it was and I know exactly which one it was because I went back and looked at the a breakdown of each one. It was the sack on the cardinals. Last possession was cam hayward I got the sack on first down I I do believe and on second down when Murray was scrambling. He fumbled the ball and they jumped on it so it went down to sack. Eight didn't credited to any player now they still might. I wouldn't be surprised if they did that today. Or tomorrow I think hargrave might have been the closest player to it That he might have you got the credit. But what's crazy is they could have had more sacks if the NFL would have deemed. That Murray was throwing awful. I mean that one third down play where we're Edmund stopped them for a loss where he was rolling out to the side. The data's a run that did not go down to the sack. So there's there's some things like that all right. I've got to talk to you and stop looking for numbers here. They're going to go back and say where. I said that they started flying after. You can't even find my holy cow. How far back do I have to go died thirty eight? PM Nine thirty eight. Well there. I saw where where flip joined dinner so about about some stuff. I made sure I I finally figured out. I had confessed to him that I I can't I haven't been able to do his film breakdown because I couldn't get it to work. I found a back way into it to where I was able to watch that this past week. You're looking for numbers. Go Up to nine thirty nine PM. Logan you got to mention this. We haven't been. We have to mention at nine thirty nine thirty eight when he said because he can throw downfield nine. Oh boy I went back to far YUP YUP. I saw that one. I'd skip through that. We gotTA talk about. That was my first number on my analyzing analyzing the numbers. And that was the eighty five yard punt return. I punt return. I kick kick return for touchdown of any kind since week. Seventeen eighteen of two thousand seventeen. Judy Smith Schuster against the Cleveland browns. First Punt Return Sense. Two Thousand Fifteen fifteen. which was Mr third and fifth first punt return by a steelers rookie for a touchdown? Thousand Five Five San Antonio Homes Yup so that was just some good NYSC fund numbers so let's see e let's Hero Logan has another one because I was. Let's see this other number sixteen for Nineteen. I don't care about sixteen for Nineteen I. I brought this up on the burning question on Saturday. And that's how many incompletions are you satisfied with. I was satisfied with with. I'm like give me seven or great online twenty-five attempts you know twenty two twenty two to twenty nine attempts is okay only nineteen th temps three incompletions what I got compare this digging through the stats a little bit was I think one of those was just a straight up throw away one was definitely throw away because it was pargeter. Anybody Buddy yeah and once again when I have to stream the game online I don't have access to watch it over again. which really stinks? But I know there was a couple incompletions that ended up being penalties. So that's that's that's the best thing up in my head. His last pass was incomplete. That was on the second down play where they were trying to. They were trying to get a safe completion to keep the clock running but get the ball wider. Yeah tell that was deontay Johnson. Yeah that that that one was that that was one of the three incompletions but really you want to get into that a little more interesting. So technically he went six so at Johnson he went six completions nations eight targets. Okay every other targeted past the duck had was complete. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's that's that's efficient. Now that's the thing. was he making the right passes everything else. No but I'm like if you're making completions that's that's half half the battle. The first thing you gotta do is complete. But I'm not even saying it's the first half of the battle okay. I wanted to bring this up the two touchdowns for Andre Johnson that Donald mentioned the reason that I say. It's half the battle is you've got to figure out who your throwing it to and then complete it. I can't say because I didn't break it down. I'll probably hear more from from flip about this is was he throwing it to the to the best option. So you've got to kind of give them credit that even if the best option he was is getting the completions I mean I tell you what man those those Dionne Dionne. Keynes's comes up with a great one great catch game and I'll take it. I'll take him so Logan says zero interceptions. That was very nice. Zero fumbles to yeah. Technically it was too because does they. That was interesting. Out of the five interceptions five interceptions. Sorry the five turnovers in the game. Three of which happened on fourth down that they wouldn't have been a turnover. The other team would have taken over anyway TJ Watson the end zone but that gave them better feel positions that was good because he was smart and just download it right. I know some people like all Murray could've walked in. I don't know if he could have walked into the end zone but he definitely around chose to run right. I can't say for sure without having to check it again. If he would have got to the touchdown zone so but and then also the berry fumble. I don't even WanNa talk about that. Do you WanNa talk about that play. Or here's the other thing. We'll talk about that. Play Okay right after the game I I popped onto. DVD was listening to the post game. Show with you know stand in and Charlie best him and They cut to Thomas Press Conference and of course you knew someone was going to ask about what happened air because because it looked weird at Berry messed up whatever Tomlin takes says hey look the call was my call. I made the call on me. Oh my gosh. You should've seen everybody. Crucify Tomlin workers. Look Thomas took the heat off Berry Berry came out and said hey look yeah. They called off. Yeah I didn't get to call you know. And honestly when he tells you that that's exactly what you watch him play. That's exactly what happened exactly. Yeah the guys started down the field. Let's guys that they weren't going to block the punt come through and then those two guys are there to cream berry but you know should we have had the call on to begin with you know. We don't know how many times they potentially walk out there with that call onto the field cancelled excellent punt the ball. Yes it might do that a lot more than we think yes. That's a good point so you know what happened. It wasn't great thank goodness Dennis. It didn't cost us the game that yeah a couple of things I got to say about this okay. First Tomlin didn't didn't lie about it. He said that was my call. One takes responsibility because he probably said. Hey we're going to go out. We're going to run the fake unless because they don't put in six guys in the box said we're going to run the fake unless they attacked box they stack the box called it off buried in here. He's like Oh crap and someone did ask a question from from Joe wanted to know where the fake punt goes a sack. The reason it did not go as a sack is because at no point did he ever appeared to attempt to throw the ball around the ball in a way where he was going to throw it. That was a run from the get-go run from the get-go so that's what gets you with now because if Murray goes back at least pretends like he's GonNa pass that's a sack you know Murray Berry Anyway yes. Yeah so that's that was a potentially a season changing play because the cardinals get momentum and win that game and that that could have completely ruined the season for the steelers but they didn't let it happen. They didn't let it do that. Yes they got the touch. And it's so funny because I was texting with Lance Williams on the touched our that Terrell Lemons broke four and it went over his head. I said that looks like the Little Leaguer In the outfield where they hit you fly ball and he runs in and then it goes over your head. Yeah what that looks like me was that I mean 'cause I thought he had to pick okay so while you're on those let's go something a play like that. Let's go to the other fake punt for a minute. The one that they were successful on. Yeah we're camp. Kelly tripped over a blade of grass. Yes yeah it just wanted to like. He's running I'm like dude. He's got this. Yeah we've stopped the next thing you know. He's he's trying to make the tackle while he's flailing underground. I'm trying to catch up with a couple the go-to we need some tight ends. We don't know if he got Vance McDonald this week. Ryan says that he wants me. He said I talked about improved. Moved opening drive and it happened so we will talk about something here. It very soon about the topic of the show Just I'm just looking for some any Any number that jumped out at me. I'll be honest with you. I think at this point. There's a lot of a lot of discussion before we get into questions or anything like that. Let's go go ahead and lay out this week's game and then we can turn it over to the live chat. Okay so how are the show is is it the steelers steelers now. I can't even remember what it is about having to start early and what that is is. You're like oh great. We're GONNA talk about opening drive again. You know what we're not the steelers still bad on opening drives. Yes they are. But there's also something else that Lance Williams tipped me off to this now. The total wasn't as bad as he thought it was but where they rank is yeah and that is the steelers serves and the yards. They gain on first down the yards. They gain on first down. And that is the steelers Are Let me let me read this out. I had something from this. I wanted to write down. I didn't get a chance to but the steelers let's look at last year. Let's look just to compare I last year here. The steelers were fourteenth in the League on yards gained on first down. Now I took out kneel downs. I took out if it was like a field goal like at the end of the half. I like that these are just regular offensive place the steelers were fourteenth the NFL they they averaged six point one yards on on first down. The League leader leader was six point. Nine zero point eight yards behind the league leader. They on first I down. They got another first down. Twenty four point one percent of the time almost a quarter time on first down they got more than enough yard in their tech. You know because you know it could have been a defensive penalty. That was ninth in the League that they were they were nine the legged nats and the breakdown on first down went Of Two hundred and eighty eight pass plays in two hundred nine run place so they were got got fifty seven point nine percent pass and forty two point one percent rush fifty eight to forty two percent that's not bad at all pretty balanced in today's NFL. Yes now how do you think that differs for this year if I were to go out I haven't looked at these yet. You told me that I haven't looked at yet. I'm going to guess I WANNA guess we're under five. That is correct are under five life. We are at four point eight yards which doesn't sound terrible because generally I'm like I'll take four yards on first down. I'll take four hundred I down. The problem is what about all those times. You get twelve yards on first down right. You're running a two hundred offense. That's right we're talking average average. I wanted to get a specific number. You didn't want to medium this time around. I mean I wanted to get a specific number of how many plays the steelers had zero yards. Obviously every incompletion is zero yards negative yards. It's decent chunk but I didn't get an exact number. Hopefully maybe I'll even get that for Thursday night because it's not an easy way where they just give you a total go in and count all what was it. Three hundred in. What is it? Three hundred thirty plays and and see what the distance so. I wanted to do that but I didn't get to. In two thousand and nineteen four point eight yards has them ranked thirty first in the NFL. That's a are. They are next to last the in his last. Do you think that's what I was getting right. Asked You last steelers played them. Guess Okay Not in Miami. It's Miami Miami is at four point point five yards figured it was one of the yeah. So that's that's interesting. Another interesting thing is the steelers thirty. We first in first down conversions on. 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So it's no redskins. Yeah they're coming. The steelers are barely ahead of them. You know what part of that is. They were not here is is is both. If you think about the redskins you think about the steelers. Chances are both of them with their with their rookie. quarterbacks are not chucking the ball out on first down. We're running the ball exactly. That's what I was just about ready to say where last year it was. Basically fifty eight percent pass to forty two percent run this year. It's forty seven percent pass and fifty three percent run and so so they are running more on first down than they are passing. And can you rip off a run and get first down but you are more likely to gain ten yards on a play by throwing it. Then you are running it so if you're going to run it more that means you're interested in moving you know you now. uh-huh staying staying ahead of the chains. Which is another article that you all should be seeing here in the next day or suit next to buy one cliff? Harris is still la PUNK has an article coming out about the steelers and staying ahead of the chains because by slow is what's that Park Yep punk. That's the question so if you haven't read his stuff he'd hit. Wow his breakdown fantastic but but buffalo is one of the best teams in the NFL. At forcing negative plays on first down and the steelers are one of the worst plant teams of not gaining much. On first down so burst down is going to be important. It's going to be very important at the steelers need need to leave themselves unmanageable situations so my question is then. How do we get them off balance on first down? You know what I mean. Yeah it's going to be tough for us if we are to predictable on first down but at the same time you can't notably flip the script on first down either. It's fieger is going to have to be a little creative. Yes like you say. When we're critical critical of what he's not creative? He needs to step up and be creative. Yeah just get change up some stuff at the same time. You don't want to go so creative that you're going to run a play. That has the potential to lose USA chuck's crack. You know what I mean you don't have to do you. Don't have to run the flea flicker on the opening play. You don't have to run the end around on the opening play. You know. Run run the misdirection. Run A quick slant run. Everyone was so tired with Haley. Much we saw the bubble screens right. Now you don't always see the bulb spring. I mean honestly I like I say awesome more trap plays on I I would like to see the infamous use your formation wisely. Run off the defenders and try to hit your and and try to hit your running back on just a little on just a little flare out. You know not a screen to protect and see if he can just slide out for for a little bit. Good Pass for your quarterback and that generally it's like run play but he's clear space in that. Can you ever get you five yard yourself. Hey do me a favor. There's there's something in the chat I want to go back and get 'cause you haven't talked much about it. Yeah I haven't even looking now you know you haven't brought this up yet and we need to and somebody brought it up in their our friend. Dennis back at nine fifty four PM. When you gotta you gotta put that one up there you know okay? Dennis is saying. Hey I'll tell you what it says says whoever hasn't hit the like button has to stand in the corner. They like winter magic the Super Chad earlier. And that's the one thing that I should've love I should have discussed. Is that if you don't want to give your hard earned cash to to get your question. That's fine but if you want to help us out without having to do that smash that like the button. Give us the stars on the PODCASTS. So make sure you're subscribed to the channel. All that stuff is really really helpful so a lot of people are saying. That's right Denis so one other thing I do want to say as you're like well so the steelers is it really that bad you know. They're average on first down. The steelers only have a one game. Well I gotta say African this one. I said they only have one game that they that they didn't that. They've reached that total but unfortunately the two games against Cincinnati and Cleveland. The way I had to look stuff up. Combine them both into one game. So maybe I should say there's only one opponent so far in two thousand nineteen that the steelers have averaged more. We're on first Dan or that. The average in the game more on first down than they did for the season last year and that was in week two against Seattle. They had six point nine. Everything else was there was everything else was six or below. Some of those being to New England was in the twos. The rams grams was in the tubes on first down. I was throwing a fit when we were there a decade. Can we get some yards on first down you know and and late in the game. They started to get some early in the game. It seemed like they were getting nothing. Nothing so yes all right well. What order anything specific number wise? You would like to see this week. I got I got a couple of things I like. Talk about. First of all We always talk about what we need for offensive numbers. There's one I'd really really liked to see us. Defensively do here okay. The bills have one of the top rushing attacks in the league. Yes if we can hold the bills under a hundred yards as a team that would be phenomenal. Yes 'cause they're averaging. I believe somewhere around one thirty now. Let's hold him under one hundred. Yeah that would be fantastic and I would say oh man if the steelers can do that then they I'm not ready to say that that means they could win the game because this could be this is the steelers lowest I over under that they've had Out of Vegas so far this season because this is basically two teams that are known more for their defense. This could be thirteen to ten twelve to seven. You know I mean this could be low scoring. Here's what's going to happen ready because they're gonNA be. Yeah Yeah it's GonNa be you know twenty eight to thirty seven or something like that last year. When they wore the color rush against the patriots waitress sounds like a man? If the steelers can thirty points I think they can win. They WANNA game seventeen dad. That's not what I expected when you and I went to the titans game at one time that we were expecting a low scoring game they both teams. I mean it was I mean overall that was sixty something points in that game combined. Yeah well and here's the thing under the steelers. Give up the most points. Well first of all Lance Williams get so frustrated with this because when the steelers score especially touchdown they have a tendency to turn around and give belong drive. Live on defense whether it be just time consuming. Give up another touchdown or score some point but I think like when did the steelers defense he might. They gave up the most in games that they're winning by a good bit like against the chargers when they gave up. What would it seventeen points in the fourth quarter order? Something like that but that still didn't even have a game really in range so if if the other team scores probably going to be because the steelers are willing to bit Cam Max throws four dollars into the tip jar and says love. They chose to wear the color. Rush me to interesting thing about that. One Jefferson Everson Hartman. We keep calling him Jefferson. I'm pretty sure that's not as real name on the Dick exactly put out on twitter or through the behind the occurred twitter account last night said He. He sent me a text. He's like we won't we. We gotta do Colorado Push for this. Cause I'm putting it out on twitter. Say Re tweet this. If he wants you to call the rush we got crazy re tweets of that and everything so then when they announced today We decided we double team getting an article out. Quick where he was he was writing and that was like compiling tweets. And you know Getting pictures and make sure we had all the right tags and everything else and he's like. Make sure you throw in my tweet from last night so I did. We had to throw it in there that that he was pushing for that and it was great to see that. So I want to see I got to think about what Nebraska see. I WanNa see what time Wanna see. I WANNA see one. I want to see one victory. That's really all that really matters ugly. That's why I'm going with the Santa Hat. That's why I want my Christmas present this weekend. The steelers Christmas presents for me at the win in this weekend. Put us into the five spot for the wildcard And keep it rolling from there exactly because this was something that we I I jeff asked me to make sure. I'm covering playoff scenarios and I'm just going on a week by week that it's basically this week. It's the steeler. There's only two games. Let's pay attention to steer the game and the Tennessee Houston game because this who the steelers are fighting for if you're looking at worst case scenario versus best case scenario the only way the steelers can win the north. Is They have to win. All three and the Ravens have to lose all three and Ramon's jets on Thursday. So it's just it's just going to be done so that's just how it is. I didn't expect the Ravens to go undefeated through this. This difficult stretch. I thought they went four and two news through six games with one of them being the bengals the other ones were really tough teams that that would be a really good record for them and they went and they and they want them all so that that that's not the issue it's getting that wildcard if the steelers win this game. They're they're they're the five. There will currently be the five because they will have identical record about the buffalo and they will have the head to head tiebreaker if they come up short against the bills who what who they are fighting fighting with for that last spot. You've got a group of teams that are two games behind. That's tough I mean if you're going to give up if you'RE GONNA fall to two teams that are two games behind then you don't deserve to go to the place if there to back with three left and you can't close the deal against them then you're not a playoff team. Most I correct so it comes down to the Texans and the titans who are tied and it's going to be who doesn't win the division right and they play each other twice right. See You you go into that and you hope so. What are those two teams? Beats the other one twice exactly exactly. That's the best case case scenario. Well because because the worst case scenario is played twice and then they got an NFC south opponent. The Texans have the the bucks and the titans have the saints so yeah I would not be shocked to see the titans win this week and then turnaround. WHO's the next week the saints? That wouldn't surprise me but bottom line is you really care about. Who's losing those games? The worst case scenario for the steelers is both teams. Go to in one. That's the best that they can do. That's the best that they both can do. In the steelers is meaning right. The teams combined yes combined to the for them goes three and Oh the other one goes one on one and two at West. Yes yes which means all this you know and right now the steelers have better tiebreakers over the titans than they do. Houston Houston has one more win in the conference conference not you know yeah and the conference division then. What Tennessee does so? That's one thing to remember after if they have a same conference record then it it goes to comment opponents and right now that's still up in the air because a comet opponent with the Texans the steelers would would be the ravens a common opponent with the the titans wouldn't be the ravens. It would be the bills because of how everything plays out and there's just a lot to go into that three weeks left. They're still way too much then beyond that. Then you're talking about Strength Victory and there's too many factors involved with that when you're talking about what is it of forty eight games still remaining to be played. So that's that honestly the best case scenario for us. Texans Texans beat the titans silence twice. Titan's probably yeah say the titans also play the saints they lose to the saints. They go three Texans win their division. Who are we fighting against them? Because it's definitely the Tennessee then it would be if any of those teams that are two games back when when all three right that would be it right the only thing you gotta worry about. So that's why I say if the steelers win win one of the last three you're talking about trying to get a tiebreaker breaker. If you went to the last three your dog probably locking it in to get in and so that's why this is such a big one. This is such a big one. So that's the thing one win this week. That's what happens last time last time The buffalo bills one in Pittsburgh was first. You're nervous now. WAS THE FIRST PLAYOFF game under bill cower back and the thing is they don't play close games they don't playful they don't play close games in Pittsburgh the closest game between the bills and and the steelers in Pittsburgh I can't say Heinz field because it goes back before that in Pittsburgh is nine points the question is it. was that back when when okay would still running for the it was one thousand nine hundred five. Yeah before I was born so I don't know who was playing I remember no. It's funny I think I just saw something on that game on tv not that long ago. INTERESTING YEAH YEP WE'RE GONNA if we're going to have a game it's not close just want us to be on the correct side of that exactly. Well it's funny because the one that isn't isn't within nine points some people are like two nine points to win so I'm going to. I'm going to go ahead Eh. Because I wanna see what you'll have to say in the live chat. We got about ten minutes left. Turn their if you've got a question if you've got a number I'll try to. I'll do my Very best to keep up with it. Come on I need your prediction. Got It right. He's got a dead on two weeks in a row. He's predicted scored two zero. And before that I picked a school right so between the two of US where we extra give it to the to you got to get in there because one of the two you guessed it right and you call this correctly the to you. Then you know I'll be picking the steelers I don't care. Yeah so here we go. Oh just skipped on me. Say Ha ha. He's laughing prediction. I give you can give a prediction. I have to give mine on Thursday. I'll give I'm hoping it so if you want to do what I'm saying we're going to be pretty low scoring I again. Something like Oh man if you take mine here why you're thinking about it. North Top one hundred seven point five passer rating for Hodges GNAWS last game it was this that was the last game all right hold on. I'm Martha Nineteen Sixty three. Says this game is huge. And and sometime you Jim Bryant huge need to be there. That's not what he said. That's just the way I read it so So yeah and remedy. This was what we were saying. They play other Houston and the titans. They can't went out the best. They can both do Atari not not the best the worst the one of this dealer. Yeah one of the one of them wins out the other one goes one and two or three yep correct and here's the other thing that you gotta remember. They could both both finish one and three. They split end loser the loser of the game or someone could be two and three and the other. You're wanting to score prediction you don't have to do it one of the things. I had jotted down here that you want for numbers I would love to see the steelers score twenty if they scored twenty. I'm pretty sure they we're going to go. steelers twenty Bills Sixteen Man I. This keeps skipping. Twenty two sixteen. That's a good one. That's a good one. I had some good stuff and then it skipped so Robert says thirty to seventeen. He saying the thirty because they score a lot in the press. Jerseys yes mango Masher. I saw your question. We don't have time to get into into spy gate to Maybe when more that becomes clear maybe on another show but I'd like to stay focused on the other stuff but keep that in mind. Maybe we'll hit that up. Maybe Abiola them. Maybe tomorrow night or on Thursday so someone says hey depends on the weather. What's the weather looking for? Sunday's Laris you're we're sitting there doing it and I'm trying to pull it up on my phone because it keeps changing here. It's going to be chilly. Let me say that I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to wear. We are so that you know. I don't freeze Let's do that. Michael Malley I love this hundred yards on the ground more more takeaways takeaways. Then give away so in other words you WanNa be positive and that plus minus Michael Goodwin because I felt we need to rush the ball over one hundred yards. Yep We got a score of twenty one eight to thirteen from Jesse King May twenty four fourteen. West said didn't know if we saw this earlier but the eighty five yard punt return is the longest punt return in steeler history. I did not see that so. I can't confirm that but I'm GonNa take his word for that. He knows what he's talking about. Because wes usually has good stuff worse. Okay okay kyle he going to disappear. steelers superfan Yes steeler fan. Or I'm Steeler superfan Dad but S. T. l.. Because they didn't have enough letters. Stop Work steeler if you go to any of my articles are behind the steel curtain. You Click on that article right underneath the title and the little thing that goes with the title. It'll say the author it'll have my email and and my twitter or you can click on my profile. It's all there but S. T. L. R. superfan. Dad gmail.com my email. Or that's just that what it is for twitter. Hey Weather forecast for Sunday. A high of thirty eight in Pittsburgh Morning Snow showers West winds ten to fifteen Sunday night going into the evening the lowest to get down to twenty six. So we're GONNA hover right probably around the freezing point. Okay what do you live. Hey I'm Jason Delray. I recently wrapped up land of the giants the rise of Amazon. In this podcast we examine. How Jeff bezos turned a small online bookseller into one of the most powerful companies in the world? We start by exploring how Amazon prime became a service with over one hundred million members and the main source of the company's power. I mean I think that's kind of what Amazon's banking on right that you're just locked in. You'RE GONNA go to any other sites. 'cause I mean I into aunt. And we end this season by pondering. The question is Amazon. Too Big you know and we just don't want to be the United States Amazon. We just really don't land of the giant has been recommended by the New York. Times axios wired and more. It's a candidate. Look at the state of Amazon today. How we got here and what the future might look black? The entire first season is out. Now find out more and binging on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP. I watched a movie last night. A baby saver. Maybe thinking that I was gonna say say okay so so there might be snow a Pittsburgh but you know whether it's going to be snow this Christmas time. Sorry do they know it's Christmas time. I'm at all I'm sorry If you haven't seen Daddy's home two to John Cena sing that song it's fantastic so we've got thirteen to ten the steelers from from double H. We got goose dealers twenty-seven fourteen so west said that there there was a ninety yard punt return but it did not resolve the touchdown in nineteen sixty four. Hey I'm going to ask you that you're that you're doing the research they're thanks buddy. We we appreciate that. We love it when people cut their numbers. Okay remedy this thirty to twenty. Okay I said completions leashes. I think he means receptions. CODY SAYS AC manner zero receptions that will change set of wide open on that one where he flared out he was why why he would have to throw it across the field. Give him the ball. Better than touchdown. AFFEC- I touchdown they. There was a question asked of coach Tomlin today at the press conference and the question was is Zach. Banner Athletic Enough have to act as fullback on the goal-line his answer no that was his best. It's just because they don't WanNa play in their manor on twitter challenge coach Tomlin to erase berries. I like that I really. It's funny. I don't like it when they use that formation. Too Much Telegraph. What they're doing? But you gotTa love it when you gotTa love the guys I mean he just got the right attitude. I mean if if you don't know his story he he started to not like the game. Oh just wanted to be done with it and the end up in in in Pittsburgh and in the Right Situation Association and fell in love with football and he's just out there having fun. I mean he's just a big fun guy and if you got fun guy. He's a big mushroom room. Sorry Man I'm going. NERDY jokes tonight on mandate and and mushrooms and everything else but if you did not see when the the one thing early this year it won't know if it was during the fashion thing when he did the did the did the flash dance scene. It was hilarious so I think it was flashed answer dirty dancing one of those things. I don't know those movies. My wife would tell you so. Darren says how about seventeen points that we can win. So he's going seventeen sixteen that might that might be the number that to me. I'm really far behind behind 'cause it just skipped and I can't go back and find or even brought that up so I'm really sorry but I'm not going to get to all your comments will be read off Fan. Seventy four hundred fifty nine steelers was looking to see if we anymore. Predictions there Erica. JAS said seventeen ten steelers ever go. Yeti when he for the steelers bill seventeen Danny you can't even sat when Sixteen ten steelers on back too far. That's where I'm catching up. Yeah so good stuff stuff as always you all come through in the live chat so much bigger than what it needs to be. I of course nerd out. Somebody I said that the Marco Van said Zach parents going to be refrigerator Perry to point out. Yep Do we get the we get some of these. These might have been the ones you do okay. Duck Hodges is calling his own stats two touchdowns one defensive. Td To boss. I feel goals. Twenty seven ten bringing the duck. So I'll tell you what man duck breaking that down for us right. It's a score uh-huh yeah some good stuff. Ron Reed says he'll be at the game. Twenty one sixteen so like I said you'll that's on Thursday. See what's going on. I lost. Who set where was it? Somebody gave a number for the game. Who who set it? Dr Knocking give credit. Somebody said a number. They had for the game with zero fake punt by Jordan Barry. I like it. There was cody. The Marshall said it varies European Fun. So here we go and now you guys are going to have to deal with. It said he's going to sleep on it and auto auto. Oh so help me. So help me. He's given it on this show every time I know if they lose on blaming him Yup because he didn't give the score on Tuesday. So it's it's some good stuff but hey thank you for tuning in tonight as just kind of been a good fun time. We're excited I don't I don't know if I do. I do. The Christmas tree lit up behind me. I was a little one. Yes I did I I actually remember my USB hub and yes I have more than one USB board on my my laptop that people said I needed a fund for that but Mike now I just use them for the thanks so One last score seventeen to to the to I don't like to. I don't want to give up a safety. Let's not do that. 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Steelers Injury Report, Week 11 vs. Jaguars: Wednesday Update

Behind the Steel Curtain

10:04 min | 5 months ago

Steelers Injury Report, Week 11 vs. Jaguars: Wednesday Update

"Pittsburgh steeler fans going on this is jeff hartmann co editor of behind the steel curtain dot com with you for another episode of the pittsburgh. Steelers injury report podcast. That's right hard to believe here. We are wednesday getting ready for week. Eleven the pittsburgh steelers hit the road again. Head down the jacksonville to face the jaguars who have lost eight games in a row. I remember as jacksonville bleed or not. That ended my survivor league run at one week. That is right they. I think it was week one that they beat the indianapolis colts. I tick the colts with philip rivers to win that game and the behind the steel curtain survivor league which is free. The winner will get a autograph marquees pound football jaguars one maybe in the last game. They won. they've lost eight games in a row. coming up. the steelers are gonna be facing jake luton That is his name. He was an oregon state quarterback. He started the last two games for the jaguars. Not too bad numbers played better against houston. He needed a green bay but nonetheless. He has lost both of those games. But here. we're talking about the injuries in this wednesday. Podcast as i always do. I say you know wednesday podcast. Wednesday injured reports take with a grain of salt folks. Okay take with a grain of salt. Because you're going to have a long list of players and this list will be hopefully fingers crossed will down to almost nothing by the time we get down to friday. Let's start with the pittsburgh. Steelers here on this wednesday november eighteenth. Let's talk about all the players that did not practice for not. That was not injured related so again. The players the did not practice on wednesday but not injury related now gays. You don't have to worry about these people. I every wednesday. Ben rothlisberger not injury related. Juju smith schuster now. He had been missing wednesdays with a knee injury. But this week it's not. The knee is just considered a day off. Not injury related. Marquees pouncey again. He gets veterans day. David decastro gets veterans day. Androulla wave and stefan to it all have not injury related days off so mike tomlin has he has been taken care of those veterans making sure that their fresh by giving them a wednesday off. Bonelli in tomlin has spoken about this before in the past that. Giving the day off to ben rothlisberger on wednesday allows for mason rudolph joshua dobbs to get work in that goes for any position. So you're looking on the offensive line. Jc half an hour. Who's the center of the backup center. He's going to get extended work on wednesdays. Pouncey being out. It's only going to help the death of the team and let's be honest. The majority of these veterans have proven to be gamers meaning. They can step in with very little practice reps in they can get the job done but that's one of the only players missed practice on this wednesday. Let's go over some of the others. Trey edmunds as expected. Did not practice with a hamstring injury. Jalen samuels as expected did not practice with a quadriceps injury. And then there was a couple others. Jay ron elliott linebacker. He missed with an illness. This is one of these situations where house the team a handle this illness quote unquote. I'm not sure they probably sent him home. Said don't come in just to be safe. Someone they did that with last week. Anthony mcfarland he returned to practice as a full participant. He was fully back from his illness. He missed last week's game isaiah bugs. He missed last week's game with an ankle injury. He was a full participant. And then you have my hilton. He was a full participant with a shoulder injury. So there you have. The pittsburgh steelers listed again. The only people that missed practice due to injury. Trey edmunds in jalen. Samuels everyone else was. Mid has missed time is back as a full participant. Chris warmly just is a quick sidebar in case you missed the article behind the steel curtain dot. Com chris warmly. Pittsburgh obviously made that trade in the offseason with the baltimore ravens to acquire him he was. He's been on the injured reserve list. They took him off that list. He's still on the reserve list but they returned to practice on wednesday. Which means it. Now there's a twenty one day clock so the have three weeks to activate him off of that list or if they don't he stays on the injury report this is the same scenario that they add stefen and when was new cease time was up. The steelers activated him in. The neighbor. released him why they did that. Well it depends on who you listen to. What theory you wanna believe. But that's exactly the same situation when you bring guy off of injured reserve. They have third twenty one days once you activate them off that list or else there on the list for the rest of the year. So we'll keep an eye on chris form. Let's go over to jacksonville. Jaguars decided to wait side to give you all the actual report on wednesday and they have a long list of players that were either limited or did not participate. Let's go through these players. That did not participate wide receiver. Lavar laviska chenault hamstring. I'm sorry if i mispronounced. That did not pratt did not practice with a hamstring injury. Tight end james's shaughnessy did not practice at the knee tied tight. End tyler. i for. That's the name we know. All too well steeler fans scheduled day off did not participate. The next group of players gonna read into long list where all limited. Okay offensive lineman brandon linder with back quarterback gardner minshew the second with right thumb. Linebacker dakota coach alan with an ankle running back Divine zibo. I think is a hamstring running back james. Robinson shoulder cornerback. Cj henderson groin. cornerback. Sidney jones the fourth achilles. Why does he recall johnson. Hamstring offense of line kellyanne robinson shoulder and defensive end josh allen with a hip all were limited again head coach doug marrone said recently in his press conference said although minhsiu is limited in practice in his starting to throw again after having a procedure done on his right thumb. He is not ready to return. And that's why it'll be jake luton. Who will be going up against pittsburgh. Steelers defense coming up on sunday remember. It's a one o'clock kick-off the steelers had had a lot of four twenty five kickoffs and then after this game in week eleven. There's a lot of games where he obviously the thursday night game. You have another two more. Primetime games on the schedule a monday night or with cincinnati. You're a sunday night game against buffalo In they can obviously flex some of those games out of they feel. It's necessary nikola it's going to be a good match just a reminder though and i know days go field says this all the time they have to give teams at least twelve days advance notice before they changed the time that way they can make plans and prepare accordingly. Obviously the venues need to plan accordingly as well. So that's definitely something to keep in mind when you're looking at the schedule saying i wonder if they're gonna flex this game or that game. This is a one o'clock kick-off down and duval real quick though. Let's take a look at the pittsburgh steelers Injury report wednesday and seem. What are we looking at in terms of potential players. That could miss while the only players miss because of injury where edmonds samuels in a lot of people will see these two players say well. They're just running backs that don't play that often. Let's not underscore the in the special teams aspect of this. Both edmonds and samuels are special teams regulars. They play almost every single. Special teams group do not underscore special teams in the importance of that. When you're looking at these players jay. Ron elliott is another player now. He wasn't illness so unless they feel that they need to hold him out unless they feel like okay. This could be an issue that could be bigger than just as someone sick unless they feel that way about him. That's another special teams player. That could be missing. So the steelers special teams on sunday against cincinnati. Were awesome the steelers special teams against dallas. Be prior. Were atrocious absolutely dreadful. Now i do have to give danny smith group credit. I feel like this season. They've been better more than they've been bad. I don't wanna say they've been good. They've been better bore than they more than they've been bad. But you wanna have all of your pieces of the puzzle because the one thing you can't have of those big returns in a game where your favorite to win by ten points. That's what the spread is last. I checked you can't have those look. Dallas is the perfect example the kick return giant big kick return the punt where they threw through across the field. This team has nothing to lose nothing to lose everything to gain unless you view them winning as a loss lot of fans down there in jackson would say just add is. They're trying to get the best traffic they can for the twenty twenty one. Nfl draft. So there you have it. The wednesday steeler and jacksonville jaguars injury report. I hope that you'll check out all of our podcasts. Wherever you get those podcasts. Whether it's google play itunes stitcher apple podcast anchor pandora spotify. You name it. Follow us if you. You're just catching this. Some it gates says in the article. Go to any wherever you get your podcast and search steelers or behind a steel curtain. You'll find us in as always behind the steel curtain dot com should be your one stop shop for all things steelers. We've got some great film rooms coming up. Commentary guy breaking news today when it was announced. Ben rothlisberger the afc offense player of the week. We had it right as it happened. So you won't find anything better in that regards behind the curtain dot com. Makes you check it out. Early and often. I'm jeff hartman. Co editor said website. In the meantime folks be safe. Be kind and god bless go steelers. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Steelers Post-Game: Winning streak hits 5 as Pittsburgh flashes some crazy potential

Behind the Steel Curtain

38:34 min | 2 years ago

Steelers Post-Game: Winning streak hits 5 as Pittsburgh flashes some crazy potential

"Uh-huh. Pittsburgh Steeler fans. Welcome back to another episode of the Steelers postgame show. I'm Jeff Harbin editor of behind the steel curtain dot com. Joining me soon will be my typical co host Lance Williams as we recap the Pittsburgh Steelers thrashing, I think that's a good adjective to describe the Steelers game on Thursday about fifty two to twenty one St Louis completely dismantled the Carolina Panthers. It wasn't even close. However, the one unique thing about these prime time games than it typically happens with Pittsburgh. There's always a a play a sequence of events that really. And so if you think about this game the Steelers they win the coin toss of the Carolina Panthers failed of guests the heads or tails, they defer the possession the second half of the Carolina Panthers. Go down the field with relative ease less than five minutes. Christian McCaffrey does all the work in scores a touchdown and immediately sealer phase or thinking, oh boy. Here we go. It's gonna be a long night. First play from scrimmage for the Steelers seventy four bombed Jujio touchdown game next series Newton inadvertent or. Inadvertently throws a six Williams. Now, it's fourteen to seven in the script flips of bringing in rants now, Lance what were your thoughts on this game? Because I think after that pick six you could have looked at my opinion. I knows fourteen sent that whole complex begin completely changed at that point. Ghadafi boy here. God. That I can up predict games. That's what I have a feeling. Wow, are terrible Alba just flat out in the W. Tf is my predictions. I I'm horrible. I flat out terrible. I will admit I said the pair of will go to wear twenty eight twenty four and boy was I wrong. Well, no one saw fifty to twenty one coming. I don't make anyone in their right mind. And said I got the Steelers went in fifty two twenty one I said thirty four to twenty six as a final. There were a lot of things that happened in this game that I saw coming down. Rob burger having a big game when they were talking about the no huddle offense that just means. He's going to throw the ball more. I saw Antonio Brown. Having a big game, which he did. I think that if they would have been a little bit closer, he probably would have gone off even more. And then I thought you was going to have a game as well. I started all three of those guys at my fans will roster tonight once money so good for me at the same time landed a hater, and he's gonna keep picking against them. He's picked against two weeks in the Steelers have won both of those games around. Glad we could both represent our color. Rush jerseys tonight, the a seven to eighty four they connected tonight. And. They're three and those threads. Now. I think would do you think they should wear. These more often. Love these materials. Nice and silky night. Not for you. Not for you should the Steelers where them more often. I should wear these. Associate in the making even worse tonight with my predictions. I had been on the bench. Fantasy. Today yesterday and the standard with Chris Carter would filled them for you or on Tuesday with the Steelers preview. Did you listen to anything? I said, I mean, you think at this point we've been doing this show for like four years, but you would say, well, maybe Jeff does kinda noti socket about a little bit. You know, we're old couple Jeff you. This one year out the other. You know, how that is? But here I mean, this was also performance today. Fifty to fourteen hour excuse me, fifty to fourteen with the rest of the team at the seven to Artie burns for the rest of the team. So the gay was Vicky to fourteenth Steelers. Twenty what Artie birds? Sealers that yet they're still putting in backups and they kept their starters in the entire time. Doto obey scored emptied their bench a little bit as well. But you know, what we always do on the post game show. We're gonna go through the stats. We're gonna grade players. And then we're gonna talk about maybe what this game means moving forward because this was a huge win for the Steelers who are now six two and one they flip the script. They've won five in a row. An interesting fact, I just saw this on Twitter. This is the only home game that the Steelers have in the month of November at Heinz field. They're on the road for the rest of the month. They don't come back into they see the chargers in December the first week. That's an interesting nugget. They're all right here. We go quarterbacks as always quarterbacks then rob Berger twenty two for twenty five three twenty eight an average of thirteen point one five touchdowns. No picks was sacked once with a perfect rating. I wanna say it's perfect one. In fifty eight point three. If you say anything less than a four, which if you're a first time listener to this show, we great one through four fours and one's enough. If you say anything less than a four, I'm just gonna kick you off this show. Forget Fahd's berry. Okay. Very five five to match the five touchdowns. I mean twenty to twenty five even these five touchdowns thirteen point two yard for tip. Come on, man. That's that's ridiculous. And he got to leave the game early. Yeah. They just better than that. Let's let's say for the sake of argument that the Steelers decided work, even the we're putting the foot down on the gas pedal the entire game. How many think they could have scored? Seventy housing to say seventy five for yes. I mean, seriously they they only had to punt the ball. When Rothlisberger was in the game. No, they have to put the ball at all the news the game, you only possession. They didn't score was at the end of the half where they just need the ball. It's insane. One was a bad putt to. Of course, you know, what I was looking out looking for like man, who am I gonna put on the losers list this week? I found one Jordan bury your seven yard punt just found you on the losers list again, but berry art. You don't come back and put her burns on there. You get one chance to prove yourself and he co divas past appearance in the end zone. Good job. All right. So we all agree to Ben Rothlisberger was out of this world. We'll give an a plus. Plus, let's go to running backs James Connor thirteen. Carey sixty five yards five yard average one touchdown with along fifteen. He left the game where they didn't play him in the second quarter lot. You could definitely tell I think that the Steelers looked at this matchup. It said coming off of a very physical ravens game short week and other physical opponent. They were going to get some of the other backs involved earlier in the game. And that's what he saw Steven Ridley, Jalen Samuels getting some stamps, but James Connor what are you great him one through four. He did leave say the game in the second half. He's being he's in concussion protocol, which that's the Thomas to the game. That means that he does have diagnosed concussion. And now he starts the process of. Does he have a headache the headache subside, although symptoms daintily Steelers have a little bit of an extended break here? But how do you great James Connor for? He did very well what he was asked to do. So anytime, you average five points know, five point zero yards per carry in limited touches scored a touchdown. He was a fish, and he did with the, and I'm sure they're gonna pop that boy toward all excedrin. And after this woman, I'm sure he'll be okay. Yeah. Your listeners you're going to hear a lot of fours tonight. It's we're not being homers. Trust us were just don't like it is. And I think James Connors, absolutely affords. Well, you put it best. When he said, he did what was asked of him. And he only had only had to run a thirteen times that the biggest signal the biggest talking point from the Steelers rushing attack isn't Steven Rayle Lear, Jalen Samuels or James Connor. It was Ben Rothlisberger scramble his slide. Guide in Justin read being ojected from the game landlord. Eric Riera create. I'm sorry. Just a little brother. Hey, Martin O players. Yes. So what were your thoughts when he saw that? Because it looked bad Bush league play. And at the time, I think the Steelers were up thirty eight fourteen just touch down. Let's all go home. You know, they got families. So let's all go home man with our what our brains intact. This is serious sport. You can get hurt and killed. Let's all go home hug, our wives. You know, unless you saw go home hug, your girlfriends wives, your kids, your parents, just killing the play get back to Carolina mantras, take this L. Like a man you got beat. You got spanked no need for that. Just took the guy down. I thought it was Bush typically an NFL guys take care of themselves, especially in a situation. Like that guys. It's it's a fraternity it's a brotherhood. They take care of everybody specially no situations. And I thought it just got away from him, you know, out steady individual off the field, but it was really Bushley. Played. I've talked to Jackson was appropriate. I'll tell you this. I did like how pounds he told reporters after the game that Ben Rothlisberger said that if any even get fine he will pay the fine. No problem. Don't even worry about the five money 'cause he's got it because I loved how David decastro when he saw that ran over. And he was ready to kill somebody. And I I wouldn't mess. David cash and pouncey gets involved. We know what pouncey could do. And so he gets Eric read by the jaw, and I don't know what I think my wife would eventually I'd love to hear. I love to know what he's saying. I don't know if I want to know what you're saying too. But it probably wasn't very nice. Definitely. That that's what he said. Exactly. Because essentially that was a scary play in band has been known to go head first and a lot of visage rations where he scrambling, and he goes headfirst to get those extra yards. This was not the case. It was very obvious. He was going feet first. And he's still in he and shoulder and had like you said he was was worthy. It was worthy of an injection. And so I'm sure he'll have a hefty fine. Come in his way. But still that was a talking point that it might not get as much talk as it would if the game or closer. But still I think it deserves some credit now let's go to the receiving core Antonio Brown. Listen to this stat line, pretty solid. Six catches on six targets ninety six yards. One touchdown along a fifty three juju Smith Schuster three catches on five targets ninety yards. Now seventy five came on one play for a touchdown. Vance McDonald four catches on four targets forty four yards in. It's touchdown. I could keep going Bryan Switzer to catches to targets. Jalen samuels? Three catches four targets Roosevelt Dicks to catch to targets. Let me count these. It looked Martic awhile -cause Jeff get at not yet. Twelve different receivers. Caught a pass. I'm sorry. Stephen really did not a eleven neater crank math today during this game. And that remarkable because stealers read the ball around and doing a radio spot with Espy nation radio before we came on the air here. Nancy? What's the difference? Continue Brown's not being targeted sixteen times in a game. Now. Take into any round out. Because if you do if you wanna put two three players on him, they're going to burn in other ways. And I think the biggest thing is we all know what use machines can do at this point. You should. I was super impressed with Bryan Switzer tonight. And I know we're not gonna great him because you only had two catches. This are big third down conversions. He's playing the slot. He's really kind of finding his own niche and the offense. What are your thoughts on? The receiving core is a whole we go to individual rates. They were outstanding. And I wanna make a bitch of the office the Radi feet office. I think what we've seen is they put a major emphasis of being a very efficient horizontal passing offense with mesh concepts in they really try to really win the conversion down because what you're seeing in this past and attack. You're not seeing them push the ball downfield as aggressively as we've seen in the past. They've really cater the passing attack too. I think possess the ball in protect his defense and keep this defense off the field the balance between the play calling on the offense of in in. The defense is outstanding in the receiving core is playing fantastic football. In like, Jeff said, eleven receptions by eleven different people come on. That's meet dick Yetlis. They only through the ball twenty five times eleven different guys. It you won't see that in a football game this year, you may not ever see that in a football game. So the receiving quote, which is absolutely fantastic. And it is late here. And it's been a long day for me nine. I'm sorry nine nine different receivers. And I told you could add I. I. Greg nine different receivers, including dairy Hayward bay even Kana pass. That's insane. Let's go with individual grades Antonio Brown. What do you got for? Absolutely juju. Can I just do? My Moses Malone impression fall fall fall. Yeah. Late your way. So we go fo I. Right. Yeah. I don't think there's anyone that would definitely categorizes less than a four for me. So fall fall it's going to the defense of side. Because in my mind when I looked at this matchup and these teams were so close in terms of statistically close their rankings the defense what they do. Well, what they do. Well, and both sides of what they don't do that. Well, very very similar. I was really anxious to see how would the sealers defense managed to slow down. Because originally that's why pick the score of thirty four to twenty six because I thought they just have to slow them down. It's not gonna be a matter of can they stop them because I didn't think this offense ID the Steelers struggle with sometimes these types of offenses with Christian McCaffrey types, it can do so much and candy who is still noble, but my goodness. After that first drive. They should. Or did look like a very very capable unit. Jon Bostick led the way with ten total tackles six, so here's some other stat lines and the Steelers as a complete unit finished with five sacks one of our true or false yesterday was will the Steelers sat candy three times. And I said push with three Chris Carter said falls. He wasn't. He doesn't think they were going to get to him three times. Eight to five times they had seven tackles for loss on the day and pass defenses to quarterback hits. This was a big point for me seven quarterback heads Cam Newton in my opinion is a quarterback. I've watched him play now for several years that I feel like you don't always get to. But if you just hit him just hit him, and I think that after TJ what came in untouched and put his helmet right into the shoulder, which was already a banged up shoulder. Mighty of Cam Newton. That whole his whole game change. He started here in. He started hearing footsteps came Haberman getting pushed he was trying to throw passes backpedaling. Lance your thoughts on the defense of approach the defensive execution in the game itself coming in coming after the game pressure bus pipes. I mean, the one thing you can do to disrupt all of the different things that Carolinas running game likes to do you can defeat that with pressure. I mean that I drive was rack it was everything that I see you're coming into the game with the jet sweeps. The misdirection stuff the hi LO's. I mean, it was everything that they do all of the smoke and mirrors that they present in the running game in the Steelers look prepared. But you know, you be any office if you're kicking ass up front, and they get after it. But here's the thing that was comical to me in the game. And you know, I have to give a shot out to my fellow count Burke. Alarm riverboat, Ron Rivera. I was thinking does Ron disliked Cam Newton. 'cause he kept him in near for that asks what I was like, we'll he pull him out. I'm like, jeez. He's keeping in there on a short week it he'd let Cam get tore up. I think he just was pissed that Steeler front was getting after and they just took it out on them. Like, look we got the bye week. We go hunt and they were hunting. Yeah. And I again, we can we talk about you know. For different grades for the for the players. I can't think of anyone other than Artie burns, which already mentioned his name because he got into one play or one series get a defense pastor fears, and then he's out because it's now go line situation. I can't think of anyone I thought TJ what had to get game. I thought Budde do pre had a good game. But depre- finished with the sack two tackles for loss. Don't look now, but do pre shoot I what does he have four and a half sacks. Let me out. I'll check real quick while I talk to I want you talk about two players that we've both been hard on and the derision of this content of the season. Cody Sensabaugh and bud depre-. What were your thoughts on them pretty much as we go for this game? But it's starting to cook. I mean buddy starting to cook. But it's starting to show up consistently weekend it week out. I mean, he's not getting. Four or five games and stuff like that. But but is starting to get consistent pressure MP disruptive. I don't like Cody sits of Bauza player put boy if you don't say his name, he's playing ball Dorn. This win streak. I believe the Steelers are giving up close to about seventeen point today. So he's balling out. And he's giving them stability at the position. Now, I think arguably I think they're going to have to get Artie burns back on track because he just need that first round talent. If you could get coach it up and get it to play. Well, you need that. But right now, Cody Sensabaugh is the more solid player in the press conference. I was listened to with Mike Tomlin earlier today. You know, they were asking about his Cody Sensabaugh. One deposition provided stability Thomas air was simply do you. See birds played officially do. Do you see burns on the field? So fortunately, I think for Ardy Burs maybe that ship itself, but he's playing quality football. What what could I say, Cody suppose plan quality football, I can't comply. So I did look at bud depre- four and a half sacks. Oh, four on the season, not bad. And then you have TJ watt. Three six. He has eight sacks on the season. Not too bad. Man. I mean rate I mean, these book and Outside Linebackers that we we're going to be a gigantic weakness. Not too bad few agree. So you know, what Jeff you know, we ask that question at the beginning of the year. I think we asked we tease that question. We talked about the quirks about with both Outside Linebackers finished with double digit sacks. And I think we both agreed that what would finish with double digit. Ari birds would somehow get a sad call back. If finished with died. On a hold or something finished with witn is sax. But it looks like they're on pace to possibly both get double digit sacks or get very close to it. And I don't think you could ask more from that position. Okay. So let's create the defense as a whole in his fifty two twenty one shellacking. I gotta say I gotta say four, I think we both agree. It's a four. I can't think of any place in this group already burns that I didn't play. Well, you give twenty one points. Like you mentioned earlier, and it was really fourteen. You give them a four as well. Lance full. Well. For me. And this is something lances said before always stuck with me, unlike Lance I actually listened to what he says and take it to heart. He does not do that. But I only he said if you can do two things on offense. You are going to be really really tough team to beat in that is convert on third down and convert in the red zone and again during this winning streak I'd love to go back and look at the stats with the weekend at the Sears playing. I might do that for an article for the what the website, they're down efficiency tonight. This us were eight for eleven in answer Marqaba considering Joshua Dobbs. Those responsible for one of those failed conversions in the red zone. Four for four. I mean my goodness only one penalty in this game. I mean. I can't trying to think of a game where it was more of a complete performance. But then let's look at the other side because is important is offense for down efficiency and Regine. Let's look at what the Carolina Panthers did for the defense. They're efficient Carolina four for eleven and then in the red zone they finish they had one of one, but he didn't get reds net often. So, and that's I think about that. That's outstanding. Jeff, I'll send that stuff. I'll send my sheet. So you I typically keep track of that. I have to put the rakings in there for you. So don't help you out with the story. But I believe I'm throwing us off the top of my head. I think the Steelers might be close to being the number one red zone off into the National Football League. I think they're very close to it. And I would argue that they're probably top five on offense. Converting third down as well. And again. They found a formula to play offense. That's run the football convert third-down in be very efficient in the red zone. Small ball. I can't believe that I'm saying small ball or Pittsburgh Steeler offense lip. I've been rothlisburger who we know loves to throw it down the field, but small ball is winning. It's taking care of his defense. It's keeping them fresh in keeping them off the field in this formulas working and I expect to see moving forward win. You know, I'm not going to say that day. You know, the name I'm talking about Jeff nocco say. I'm trying to catch up with the budget other stuff. Go ahead. You know, what name I I'm thinking. So you know, what name I'm not gonna mention you know, who's coming back. Is coming back lady on bell. Of course, coming back. Yes. And the can we all agree? I get I've been on the radio now. 'cause when the sealers win more they wanna hear more from the Steelers beat writers. I guess they call me up and say, you know, we want to they all ask. What's what's it gonna be what's going to be a lady on bell? Come back. Look if you gain an all pro player, it's not going to be the end of the world as long as it doesn't disrupt. What you already have going. I have no problem. If James Connor continues to be the starter and lady on bell turns into a third down back. They use MS wide receiver in certain situations. Maybe put them both in the backfield at times it it can make this offense better. A let's be honest. We talked about the third wide receiver who's their third wide receiving right now lands. You exactly meet. They don't have one. So with that being the case of radio bell can be that guy. Let it be that guy. I'm not going to be mad at the guy forever. Did he gets some bad advice along the way, absolutely? He looked like a fool more than once. Absolutely can still help his team win. Absolutely. And if you can have them wanna see people, I'm fine with it. I'm not gonna put an Asterix next to it. Because lady came back pride week eleven and help the team win the final six games and go on to win in the playoffs. That fans need understand the players aren't gonna care. They just want him to show up or not shot. That's it make up your mind. So we'll find out. I don't know we requested about Bill if he comes over under on a hamstring injury in terms of gangs. He would get if you give me an over under. What is your run? Just this late for me to over on two games over under two games. He's an hamstring and he's pre games. No over under like, how many games will it? Take for him sprain. Well, I'm not even sold. The he's a play week eleven. He's going on the example list, they might use all two weeks. I don't know who they play after Jacksonville someone on the live chat. Tell me here. They play after Jacksonville next week. If you're watching live on YouTube, go ahead, and I as the at Denver, I think in week he will be we twelve is in Denver that game. I was I think it might be. So anyways, I I look at this and say, I don't think he's gonna play right away. The pray easing back into it. I'll take. Even when he comes back. I'll take the over. I don't think he gets. I I don't think he's in his bad shape as people think TMZ photos and some really grainy footage of him playing five in LA fitness bridge villain. Pittsburgh. I've not really putting too much stock into that. Personally. I guess visit. They play at Denver, then they have the charters. Now there, you know. About we'll talk about that. If when he shows up. But at least they lose they saw him at LA fitness not at for many. So that doesn't improve was there too. Don't worry about that. The one thing I wanna I wanna mention as well when I'm looking at these teams to disticts offensively. What were the two knocks on the Steelers last year and in previous years was third inefficiency and red zone. Just couldn't convert. What is this in your opinion land of Todd Haley? That it's been the whole script has been flipped. They sucked at their down in the red zone. And now they're tremendous possibly the best Regine offense in one of the time. Five in third down efficiency is this really speak to Todd Haley hardheadedness in ineptitude, or is this more just bans buying into the system. What do you think about that? I think there's a quarterback by to be honest. I think the quarterback is seeing. That they have to play this way that they have to play this way to support this defense. And I think he's buying into it because they're winning games. And I think it's easier to get the buy because he has a coordinator for Melia with as well. And he sees he sees that without the third wide receiver. They gotta be less aggressive. They gotta use more of the tide. You gotta work more than it'll the field and ages realized they cater to and be complimentary of this particular defense, and they have to try to possess the ball it really focus on a red zone. So I think it's the quarterback buying in in just realizing that this is the way that they have to play this occc in win games. Yeah. I agree. So whatever it is feet ner Haley, whatever the case, it's a good thing for this dealers offense. Okay. So let's go into some questions. Here will do some rapid fire questions before we. Call it a show for this evening or early morning for me. Here we go. And trying to find a good one. Do you think that you think the Steelers beat the saints down in New Orleans? It's one of the questions you think would do as well with the saints down in the dome. Hale. No, not at all it s no s take nothing away from the Steelers. And then I think the still are very good football team. But the saints tear anybody up into dome. And there's a lot of football left, man. I you're so quick to crown people now, and it's it's shocking because you don't like the Steelers. I mean you like the Steelers, but you secretly hate them. You pick against him constantly, you're here. You're ready to give Adam feeling goal jacket already in the guy's been good for like a year and a half and saying he's the best receiving the game. You're are you ready to just go ahead and give the saints Lombardi trophy for this year to wire at it? I mean, no, no, I'm not giving out Lombardi to the state to Satan. Beatable on telling you that they're beatable. They beat the Rams guess what? The Rams were beatable to in a preview last week. The NFC my opinion other. They have more good teams. I don't think they're best is good as the AFC's best. I'll say that right now. It's just what I think. Will you talk about Kansas City, New England, Los Angeles chargers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'll take those time for against the NFC south for any daily any. You're ready to crown though. Crown them and crown there s they are who we thought they were. Recipes Danny green. All right. Let's see here. Can he can this team? The patriots is it as a question on the live chat. Do you think this team can beat the patriots? That's whatever wants to know week. Fifteen New England comes to Pittsburgh again. Can this team beat the patriots Yari? No, my answer van hell, no. No. No, no. It'd be close Jesse James might fall down again. But no. No, none. Sorry. I'm convinced of sorry. I'm gonna laugh as you. I'm having alive. Live Chad getting bent with though, he was to all of our shows on YouTube. He's the one that calls the key guy. He is. I asked you the question, and he writes, please say, no, please say no, you said they these negative yet. There's another win. I take the pig against it. That's what I said. He said he texted me your score for the prediction for this game. He said Carolina twenty eight Pittsburgh twenty four. What was my response? Great. Yeah. Fantastic. I said good. Good good. All right. So. A lot of people chiming in thinking this year to beat the patriots. That's for sure it's going to be interesting. Okay. Here's my question for you. And you look at the rest of the schedule, and they've got some let's leave weeks out of it against the Bengals eve got some really tough games against the chargers. The saints and the patriots then in between there you have games against the Denver Broncos at mile high. And then you have a trip to Oakland in Oakland. And you've got a trip to Jacksonville in Jacksonville. Obviously playing the Jaguars at of those three games all of those three teens, by the way have losing records. If a team where if the trip up he think it would be against chargers. Charters at home. Keep chargers. The duds. We know that the big games or the big games the teams losing records between the Jags. I didn't preface this. Well enough. I apologize. The Jaguars the Broncos the raiders those three teams that are just right now, they're awful. It'll be the raiders, you know, say the raiders because I've watched the Steelers lose on the west coast every single game since nineteen ninety nine. So I'll say the raiders are you going to that game this sick? It's still outrageous. The raiders are so bad. I might do like a hundred flats wings at the house in the stadium is crappy there, so probably not or my sit. This went out. Well, if you do man just takes gotta say, it's gonna be interesting. I gotta do the. That's true. Yeah. Gotta work ghettos. So okay landed the questions have kinda gone dry because you've covered everything pretty much. We are gonna have. The weekend's going to be the weekend. We might be on Sunday do like a recap of the games that were especially that saints and Bengals game. Which by the way, you weren't on the last night. He'd you think wins that game. It's insensitivity light Cincinnati up. That's right. The Super Bowl champs will be there. The New Orleans Saints will be there. So you got that would be big. And that's something. I hope to see if injury lies down to win this game six two and one if the saints do what we all think they can go on the road and beat Cincinnati coming off a bye week. Then they're finding four that's a pretty hefty lead for the Steelers. It'll be interesting to see how things play out. But so with that said. Anything you have to say about the the game today. The the state of the Steelers lady on bells potential her. Here's your own a good spot. But you know, I'd be remiss, and I think I speak for you as well. I want to send you know, the show in my thoughts and prayers for myself in the show out to all the families out thousands oaks that lost loved ones to another mass shooting. I I mean, I mean, I know we all have our feelings about firearms weapons and guns. But I know the ones that we can all agree on his we can do better, we can be more responsible as society in terms of how we exercising use that. Right. It's just unfortunate that there's been another mass shooting. Again, I want to say my thoughts and prayers out to those families. Absolutely. I heard that sentiment. So here's the way and for those at one or no the post game wraps it up. We have a lot of content. Not of vita time this week. Make sure you stick with behind the steel curtain dot com throughout the weekend because we're going to have more content every single day. And then obviously next week will start our preparations like I said Sunday if Lance can do it. That's awesome. If he can't all be on to answer some questions to kind of recap the NFL week, especially in the AFC north where team stand and things of that nature. And then we start on Monday with the Steelers hangover, then Tuesday's nothing and then we get back our regular schedule Wednesday. Standard is a standard Thursdays. Steelers preview getting ready for Jaguars and Steelers which reminder case, you know, is not a Sunday Nike anymore due to one o'clock. 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Episode 9: Most important takeaways from Preseason Week 2

Establish The Run

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Episode 9: Most important takeaways from Preseason Week 2

"<music> i it though and welcome to episode nine of the official established run dot com podcast my name's adam levittown. I'm one of the cofounders year at each yarn as always tonight. I am joined by my partners but in this endeavor the man who sold out a library full of fantasy football fanatics popped white clause in the shelves last week it is of course evan silva evan. What's going on. What's going on man. We are finishing up the second full week of preseason not a ton of takeaways. I thank from the second just very similar to the first you know it's kind of reinforcing a lot of things that we thought or that we you know a lot of our takeaways from the first week but we all know the sample size is growing on which players are seeing extensive action with the first team which is are not in in their worst specific takeaways. We can really hammer on this show and some pretty big ones yeah <hes> yeah so instead of going team by team which we did did last week. We didn't want to reiterate a bunch of stuff that we already said. We just picked out. I believe we have nine year. <hes> things that we saw during preseason week to it is sunday they night. We are recording this before the monday night game so this only includes the stuff that we saw in the first fifteen games of week two in the preseason before we get to that we we did have some business side questions. I wanted to address quickly. Obviously the podcast that we're doing right now. The one you're listening to right now is free. However once the season starts our shows i will not be free. They will instead be part of our in-season package at established run dot com. We're gonna have to shows friday night. I think we've really valuable every night will go position by position hitting hitting on every valuable player on the main slate and then sunday morning going over late news new information last minute thoughts leading up to kick off. That's part of our in-season package available for two hundred dollars for the entire season plus playoffs right now includes evans ridiculous matchups column. You guys know in love in about seven other things that we think link are super valuable person that may rise as we get closer to the season so go check it out. You'll be able to find on the site. <hes> every it'll be in there okay evan enough business. This preseason week to is just about behind us. Let's get to it here. I think the most important things that we saw in we to came from pittsburgh although they did not play ben rothlisberger they bear very obviously he played their first stringers fourteen snaps in those fourteen snaps mcdonald got fourteen james connor got fourteen dante moncrieff got nine nine and james washington dot one a to me the vance mcdonald one is the most surprising but like the one. I'm happiest about because i think and i i know you do to advance. Mcdonald is a baller and finally getting a chance for an every down roll fourteen fourteen first team snaps and that is significant. I thought that the departure of jesse james was a pretty overlooked plus for vance mcdonald because no one really thinks jesse james fancy difference maker or anything like that but it's going up his playing time last year. Vance mcdonald was more like a forty five to fifty five percent player and now l. based on the preseason usage. It looks like he could be closer to you know in every down tight end and that's a really really big deal. It's such the big deal that i don't even think it would be crazy. If i moved him from. He's in he's in a i guess it's technically might want to my fourth tier of titans and he's at the top tier over jared cook and david and joe coup. I don't think you'll be crazy. If you put them up right with with hunter henry i mean it's he. I think he's an awesome awesome draft pick right now and i think he still actually a little bit undervalued in the steelers lead the n._f._l. In pass attempts last year. They're missing so many unaccounted for targets from last year with antonio brown on jesse james gone etc and vance. Mcdonald is the guy that i thought from day one might be the biggest beneficiary of all this jews locked in but then a lot of targets and a lot of opportunity up for grabs among in a receiver that they signed free agency pretty cheaply dante moncrieff or receiver and james washington who really has not been on the field <hes> with the first team has shined when he's been out there with his college quarterback mason rudolph on but didn't earn bench trust last year and then you know a bevy of slot receivers in ally rogers and ryan in switzerland deontay johnson yeah <hes> one thing that you know people always want to say well jewish just to be the one that benefits from internal gone. I mean last year. Juju already had like twenty three percent target share. I believe he can't go much higher like you can't get to thirty percent plus unless you're like deandre andre hopkins like it's just so so so rare so these targets from antonio brown are gonna have to go somewhere. I totally agreed advanced mcdonald. A king of the stiff arm <hes> vance mcdonald. I set up really really well and yeah i would. I would have no problem with you moving him up into that to your oriented just putting him on a tear by himself. I think he's pretty clearly better than jerry. Cook david joker the other thing that people like to say evan. Is that all jalen samuels is going to take snaps from james connor. They're going to go to a committee because there was some talk of that. In pittsburgh media <hes> that is not how the steelers have done it for the past. I dunno eight years or something even on belt went down. It was typically a one man show at the running back position. You've been steadfast in keeping james connor very high in your top one fifty you must've enjoyed seeing james connor bien on fourteen fourteen first team snaps yeah and it reinforces the steelers historical lean toward using a main back whether it be a true future feature back whether it be leaving on bellwether be gene joe henderson. I'm sorry danger yeah. I'm watching this friggin. Biking henderson not in yet is he got mike at the end zones now james connor and and even when jalen samuels got those opportunities last year he was pretty close to a true every dow back. I really like jalen samuels but i think he's probably just a straight handcuff. He might be like the best handcuffing the league i mean he he legit might be the best handcuff in but i think he's a strict handcuff. I think he's way better than banks. It's now who by the way we've seen a lot this preseason and i mean he's just he's just as advertised as he was. <unk> kentucky mike kennedy inefficient grinder <hes> but jalen shambles is a is a baller but he's not a guy that i will be drafting looking for any kind of standalone value yep and jalen samuel when he does get chances of james connor honor goes down. I love playing jalen. Same isn't defense jesse catches the ball so well <hes> yeah and i was encouraged as as somebody's you know adam schefter we went on his podcast. He was like give us one sleeper and i was like god i better get this right and i said dante moncrieff <hes> ages washington's play this preseason has been awesome has been mentioned but still nine <hes> i teams nassar dante moncrieff even though he's missed a lot of time with that finger issue one first team snap for james washington i think we've talked about here before that like they're gonna play a a lot of eleven with <hes> likely james washington and onto monkey from the outside in june the slot so it's not that big a deal but yeah i think moncrieff ninety one is a good sign for him as well <hes>. Let's move to arizona here. I feel like i'm the only one talking about this and maybe there's a reason for that. Maybe i'm just a total donkey but christian kirk has only only been in on thirteen of calories twenty eight snaps and christian kirk has been in the slot for seventy. Seven percent of them might concern evan. Is that if christian kirk if the new regime views him as only are primarily a slob player well. That's fits lines. Larry fits has been in on seventeen cars. I twenty eight snaps in the preseason fits pittsburgh slide for eight percent. Am i reading too much into this evidence of possible that we're gonna see christian kirksey playing time <hes> not where everybody expects it to be come. The regular season yeah the concern right now is with is he going to be rotational player and this is a situation where we're going to have close is on that third preseason in game for starters are probably going to play two plus quarters and <hes> you know. We'll have a more firm takeaway then regarding christian kirk you're there. It's not like christian kirk and larry for battling for slot receiver snaps because they're going to have to slot receivers because they're gonna play a four receiver offense but if he's just going to be a rotational player than that is a concern and that's very unexpected i mean you know i think that we all oh went into this expecting christian curtu fulltime player because last year he played seventy percent on the outside and he has the flexibility to play inside and outside and we just gotta wait until i haven't moved him down or anything <hes> but we gotta wait till that third preseason game and then you know if he's only in their on like fifty percent of the first the first team snaps that it's going to be a little worrisome for christian kirk. Yes speaking of worrisome guys watched cuyler murray's performance in the second preseason season game but i mean they were just a total disaster out there. I think they must offensive. Penalties on half of their plays. <unk> over through a couple of guys. Offensive line was giving up a a ton of pressure. I'm not worried i would say because i don't think they're actually running what they're going to run in the regular season yet but man it was it was tough to watch and speaking of tough to watch <hes> the cardinals have now lost robert alford. They're big ticket free agent cornerback to a leg injury. He's gonna be out at least six weeks then. Obviously we know patrick peterson suspended for the first six weeks. This secondary has a chance to be the all time bad and maybe that's good for. Maybe like gets him into a bunch of garbage time situations. I'm just not optimistic on the cardinals like really being competitive are early in the season ahead. You think the robert alford injury kind of effects where they're out on defense. You know it's not in. It's not just those two guys it's they had to cut a starting defensive end area filon. Who i thought was a really good signing for them. Do an off field issues. They're going to rely on third round rookie zack allen to be a starter upfront and then he saw rettig <hes> they are moving to a three four defense this year and he is going to be a starting inside linebacker acker for them. He's questionable week warned you to a knee injury so yeah i mean i i. I have like a level all of excitement about the cardinals for sure <hes> with because i'd like to see i'd like to see what teams do something different. You know that's how teams get to the top. Patriots have been doing stuff of different from all the other teams for years and that's why you know one of the big reasons that they've been able to stay on top for two decades though the eagles do something different day a really fully embrace in olympics and <hes> your they rise to the top of the league. I like it when teams do things differently but also that that can go wrong so i think that it's it's kind of a boom bust situation. In arizona. You would rather see the guys playing well then playing poorly at this stage of the year but the defense is absolutely going to be a complete set. I mean mike glennon was shredding them. In the second preseason game. Mike mike frigging glennon jerick card did whatever he wanted early in the game who and they're going to be really bad on defense that also is going to lead into situations where they have to play with a lot of urgency on offense. They are going to have to stop the run. You know we we know that them you know that stopping. The run really isn't isn't that big of a deal but it's a big deal when you can't stop it at all you know and that was the case for them. For long stretches last season and part of the reason why are they finished thirty first in offensive place an order to in order to run as many places they want to. They're going to have to get the opposing offense off the field in not let opponents just slam the ball down their throat play after play after play yeah yeah exactly exactly why i laugh when people say oh you know let's project the cardinals for like seventy plays game eighty plays game your defense being so bad and also you know the offense could be really efficient. <hes> we'll see if it is but you know a lack of offensive efficiency if you're going three and out a lot <hes> is not going to lead to a lot of plays run by the way the lions traveled to arizona for week one. I think that you know even though the lines are firmly on team established iran shoutout to them. I think stafford stafford and golladay and carry on and marvin etc said are going to be <hes> interesting okay. Let's go to the new york teams real quick. The jets continue to play sam darnold group for significant snaps. She's now played twenty three in the preseason. Robbie anderson has been in for all twenty three quincy noon while all twenty-three herndon suspended the first four games all twenty-three jamison missing crowder twenty-one. I've even more interesting are are co worker here. Path orman <hes> noted that they were no huddle on eleven out of twenty three of sam sam darnold snaps forty eight percent in preseason last year. The jets just four percent no-huddle atom gays just fifteen percent with miami last year. I think with better players you can afford to run the no huddle more. You can try to run more plays. People are excited about this. Jets offense evan depressing gun. You excited. They look really good. Yes yes yes definitely raise level of ex- of excitement regarding the jets adam gates always wanted. I mean you always talked about how he wanted to klay faster in the off seasons in miami. You made a great comparison <hes> to like high school basketball teams that <hes> this was on the platform in podcast. I believe you compared teams that want that play slow because they have you know they know that they're at at a talent disadvantage so they play slow like i remember 'cause my our. Our basketball team was awesome and teams that would play a us would try to like because there was no shot clock in high school basketball and <hes> dribble the ball outside the arch and like the fans would be like <hes> <music> this saw and i mean it did suck but it increased the variance right because i'm actually actually scott. Pianowski talked talked about this on our show about where we discussed the those two season-long topics at in you know by by race he used the <hes> if he was gonna play steph curry in a game of a shooting threes he would want to just want it to be a game of shooting one and three. You'd hope that he would get lucky and steph curry with brick and he would hit his. You certainly would not want to play a game against steph curry. Taking fifty shots shots were no. You certainly would not be able to view so it's a very similar concept if that was what was behind adam gays playing so slowly holy in miami now. He's got some actual talent. You know their offensive line. I think the era was up on their offensive. Line all needed to be like a a mediocre unit. <hes> and i think that could be okay. Sam darnold has looked like a star since the beginning of last december in his carry that into the preseason robbie anderson anderson is healthy when she was healthy jamison crowder win. Healthy is an excellent <hes> slot receiver and then chris earned in a is bombing out to unfortunately. We won't people to see him until week six. It looks like but yet they have run strictly eleven personnel. They were the dolphins last year. I think we're a seventy five eighty. He percents <hes> eleven personnel team <hes> but this year's jets looked like they're gonna be maybe in the rams vicinity of running eleven personnel so we know who's going to be out there from you. Chris rock herndon at tight end rob anderson jamison crowder in quincy <unk>. Unfortunately the jets play the bills in week one. I do think the bills will have top hop three defenses here. I think we might disagree on that have been i'm not sure but <hes> it's a tough spot for the jets. I believe they pay the bills in week one but still i'm excited about this offense. <hes> <hes> overall <hes> speaking of new york teams young quarterbacks danny dimes evan. Daniel jones looks good. I it's obvious to anyone with two is i'm no scout but it's very obvious that daniel jones is better than you lie manning right now of course after the game friend of this show joining ron on relates us that pat shurmur said john maher owns the team team. We're on the same page. You heard it from the owner. Eli is gonna start allies the starter etc etc. I'm curious what your thoughts are on daniel jones and curious. Are you more likely to maybe give shots to the giants guys under the impression giant skill players on the impression that day on jones going soobee in at some point early this season yet again. Just wanna see dana jones play just tired of the stuff you know it's just it's time to move yvonne. You know it's time to move on <hes> and now they have what looks like a promising young quarterback like let the kid play. Let him take his lumps. This is the best way to learn you. Don't get better from watching other. People play nearly as much as you do by doing the reps yourself and that's how that's that's what i wanna see. The giants do took daniel jones in scott fishbowl as i think quarterbacks four and i love the simply he averaged thirty six rushing yards per start art at duke and seventeen rushing touchdowns at duke so he immediately is just going to add an element of of athleticism to who the giants offense that it desperately needs and he looked so far like he's going to be capable of just getting the ball to sterling shepherd in evan ingram and that's really all that we should be asking just deliver the ball to art due to have a chance to be value picks german shepherd as a chance to be a value picture. He's gonna get to play in this lot during golden tate's <hes> four-game suspension and then if he balls out in the slot like they rip them out in the slot and put him outside now. I don't i don't think so. I think it's sterling shepherd. It's kind of like a decent pick right now and i love of ingram is a guy that i think has shot at one. Hundred twenty five targets yeah <hes> <unk> ingram as well. We talked about him on earlier podcast. Go back and check that out all right. Let's go to tampa bay. Nothing new here i mean james has played twenty two snaps chris god when it has been in for all twenty two of them. He's been the slot receiver when they've gone to three wide personnel. I think one thing that <hes> i noticed this past because that o._j. You know the first two years of his career kind of rotated with cambrian. He was around sixty five percents of the snaps overall but so far this preseason would you howard has been in on twenty one of twenty two snaps. You do love to see it evan. I know you're extremely high on o._j. Howard in an every down roll a it all this talk from people like bruce arians doesn't value is tight ends in the past game etcetera etcetera bruce arians knows talent when he sees it and o._j. Howard is bubbling over with talent. Yeah these people that say that bruce. Arians hates tight ends. I mean they haven't been playing tenor hudson and the preseason it does. He have more fantasy points than anyone this preseason he you might have more than anyone armenians yeah. Now i mean current president of team preseason this year her shadow to tanner hudson just crushing it out there. What a monster. I mean you know if you're looking to invest in o._j. Howard you should be thankful foale right now that he hasn't ripped like a truly big play yet he looks like an absolute beast out there when he's on the field <hes> and in in a shrew every down role which really hasn't had <hes> the first couple of his in his first couple of seasons because he shared time with cameron break but we're going to see him in a very close to every now roll this season and he's i fully expect him to be a huge part of this passing game. You know he averaged. He's averaged eleven yards for over eleven yards target in each of his first two seasons rob gronkowski in nine n._f._l. Seasons only got two that mark mark once in zakar travis kelsey have never gotten there you know we we're dealing with a really really special talent. I don't think it should surprise anyone if after the season when we come out of the season calling jay howard the most talented tight end in the n._f._l. Yep love it okay. <hes> kansas city barely played their starters. Even they said they were going to blame for full half. They decided not to patch mahomes only played two series. I noticed that damian damian williams got the first series carlos hyde got the second series on also noticed the darwin thompson is bawling like if you just watch him i go around the edge. Darwin thompson looks really good. I think he's impressed the coaches as well. I'm curious if you're getting cold feet at all on damian williams as the no-doubt starter we've all seen speculation that caused high could end up getting cut so i don't know where you have the kennedy backfield after the second preseason week yeah i've held strong with damian williams at eleven heaven haven't moved them have thought about i've thought about moving giving him but i have not moved them and now he's back healthy and he you know they gave him starter treatment. I mean they they used them with the ones and then they got him out of there after like four or five snaps so actually liked to see that he still has a monster upside is upside has not gone away at all. I think it would be smart if they use another another back last year down. The stretch during those six games were damian. Williams was the chiefs feature back. I mean it's not like he was getting you know. Twenty-five or twenty-seven touches per forgave us getting nineteen touches per game and he scored ten touchdowns over the final six games in the average over one hundred yards from scrimmage that you know obviously without the touchdown touchdown expectation. We're not extrapolating to sixty two sixteen games but that's the kind of usage i expect. It's probably in the seventeen to nineteen touches his per game and heavily utilized in the passing game and then. I think they should use darwin thompson because he is really really explosive. He he can break tackles. He can play in the passing game and he's a guy just jacked up in my rankings moved up to i think i had arbi fifty seven then and then move them up to our be forty six so he is now ahead of his a._d._p. And he's a guy that if you're using the rankings you're using the tears good chance uh-huh drafting darwin thompson. I want thompson on my teams. Yep <hes> one quick thing on atlanta that <hes> we noticed actually it was it was <hes>. I think it's at context matters. I believe on twitter noted that calvin ridley was only eleven personnel not too wide receiver sets for the falcons calkins muhammed sue was in two outer seaver sets cavalierly only came on in three wide receiver sets. I don't think that means that cavalierly is not going to have a really good year still gonna break out but it's just i think it's somewhat caps his feeling a little bit to the point where i'm not quite as excited excited excited by cabinet. Maybe not quite as excited if he's not ahead of muhammed. I still think he's gonna smash mohammed to new in terms of target share. I entered production but it's just a little bit disappointing and not to see him out there to receiver says. Do you think that's a factor evan or am. I overreacting <hes> i think it was that way for most of the season last year and so it looks like they're not going to change that and calvin really is not going to be every snap player but i'm with you. I think he's going to have a solid season. He's not someone woman and i've been getting really in any drafts because he always just goes a little bit ahead of where have him but i i think he's a solid pick. He's going to experience some some touchdown regression. You know he's probably not gonna score ten touchdowns again. This team is going to run the ball a lot more than they did last year when they finished thirtieth in rushing attempts but i mean yeah i mean it kind of it kind of reinforces to me that i think that i like where were met on kelvin ridley which is not. I'm not giving him a in very many drafts unfortunately yeah i wanted to issue a my bad on the damian harris situation new england's rookie running back <hes>. I thought that the the reason he didn't play in preseason week one because they were protecting him he was with the starters. I didn't want to risk him to injury. It turned out that the reason in plain week one is he was nursing some minor hand slash wrist issue because in preseason we to i'm he'd damian. Harris almost played the entire game. He had fourteen carries four four catches <hes> played into the fourth quarter at least deep into the third quarter so yeah i take over that i said last week about them putting him in bubble wrap it turns <music> out that they had no problem in a preseason game running damian harris out there for three quarters <hes> where you at with the new england backfield. Do you think damon harris heiresses now like not a threat to sony show. It's it's gonna be a tough backfield again. It's it's gonna be really tough backfill. I haven't really been getting any of the dudes in drafts. I think i mean i. I like sony michelle a half him r._b. Twenty r._b. Twenty two right now. I think <hes> but joe is just goes a little bit before me or before. I'm willing to take him and then james. James white goes way before a mind. Take him <hes> yeah he. He wasn't even usable when he was barely barely usable down the stretch. When sony michelle was rolling last season and then now damian harris there who can kind of do a little bit of everything birkhead is still there so <hes> usually i amended investing in patriots and certainly very invested in josh gordon in more willing to take some brady now but just haven't haven't been able to pull the trigger very much on the patriots running backs two four man stable. Yeah it's true i i do think if sony michelle if damien here's really is not factored also michelle l. has just massive massive touchdown upside like he could easily lead the league in rushing touchdowns <hes> if things break right for him all right last thing we're going to hit on tonight is the cowboys boy did play deck <hes> on that first drive. I don't know if you guys watch the game in hawaii against the rams but i mean doctors shredded yeah. The ramsden plenty starter deck in the cowboys first team when right down the field. It was a really long drive on that first drive. Tony pollard touched the ball. Seven times capped it with a fourteen yard t._d. Ron there was no touch for al none for mike weber none for dares jackson. Tony powered looks like if zeke mrs for week one which i'm skeptical of but if does miss week one twenty pollard is going to be the guy evan how saturday you about tony pollard and i don't know if you watch that dry but that was pretty awesome. Oh yeah i've been excited for about tony pollard for months months and months <hes> you know he's he's really frigging good. You know he's really really explosive. He would have been a much bigger name ed. He backed up derail henderson at memphis. You've got a hundred and four passes in three seasons seasons in college. He returned seven kickoffs to the house. You know he's he's. He's the real damn deal <hes>. They think he's very similar. From a comparison standpoint alvin kamara they have openly compared him to alvin kamara and they even even if he comes back induced <unk> is gonna come back this is this is a super bowl window for the cowboys. The cowboys are in a really really good spot entering this season. I think they're a a top ten roster and i think that you know they like their defense is is really strong if they can get and keep all those dudes healthy <hes> <hes> their offensive line is back together with travis frederick you know i think they're going to get zeke encamp error on the team <hes> head of week one but they need to find ways to get the ball into tape into boston into tony pollard's hands and you know now. They have a younger aplly more forward thinking offense coordinator telling moore. Who can you incorporate ways to get involved even after he comes back yep. Oh man loved watching tony pollard in hawaii. That was awesome. Okay <hes> from where information like this follow us on twitter at evans silva all one word while me on twitter at adam levinson all one word check out our site established iran dot com four evan for producer luke for jerry. I am adam good. Luck everybody <music>.

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The Mike Tomlin Press Conference Recap: Week 12 vs. the Ravens

Behind the Steel Curtain

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The Mike Tomlin Press Conference Recap: Week 12 vs. the Ravens

"The pittsburgh steeler fans. What's going on this jeff. Hartmann co editor of behind the steel curtain dot com with you. It's monday. I know this is strange but the steelers plan thursday night football on thanksgiving night which means it mike tomlin. His usual tuesday press conference gets bumped up a day. That means monday noon. Tomlin spoke to the media. Tuesday practice wednesday's practice and then thursday's game day so mondays actually a working day. You'll probably also hear me today. Given injury reports that means if you're paying attention you had jeff with the post game. We heard that this morning or maybe listened to yesterday on sunday. You had jeff. Let's write a twelve. You've jeff right. Now at the mike tomlin recap and then you're probably gonna jeff again With the injury report podcast a little bit later. That's too much. I think even my wife would say that's too much. jasper here. We go. Mike tomlin talking about the game that was he recap the win over the jaguars. He said he liked the steelers efforts. Speaking of the offense he said there was definitely an upswing in the run game he. He liked the way they're trending. He said it's not a finished product. You need to continue to improve. He said that he loved the fact that they won the time of possession battle and he really attributed that to some short yardage Success with the run game. Especially you mentioned. Benny snell junior on special teams. He gave a ton a props to marcus allen. Marcus allen your and what does he have to do with anything. He was the one recovered the onside kick after the jaguars went down and they kicked a field goal on their first drive. They were trying to get the ball right back. But marcus allen with the heads up play able to recover that he was asked later in the press conference about that play. And whether that's something this year's practice or whether that's you know basically that they always use it we go over everything as much as possible. With special teams in any even on offense defense preparing them for what could happen and not being reactionaries of the. We've been on our ps and qs. Because the last few weeks he thought talked about dallas they did that throwback punt return that god that gash the steelers the bengals they did a fake punt that gash the steelers so teams that might want to try to trick the steelers on special teams now might not be the best time based on the fact that they've had it happened to them teams are trying it. They're going to be on their ps and qs when it comes a special teams on defense. He said they made it tough. On the young quarterback a jay gluten they had four interceptions. He's pleased with that performance. You hold a team three points in the national football league. It's hard to be upset. Anyone to injury. So he actually. This is the actual order of events in case he always talks about injuries. I he didn't today Maybe it's because it's monday. i dunno. He did say zach gentry just like he said yesterday after the game suffered significant knee injury. He said that he doesn't have any long term prognosis right now. They're waiting for scans to come back. All he knows is that he will not be playing this week. I would doubt that. I would be shocked. If he doesn't get injured reserve alcee. He did mention some in game injuries. A big name players. Joe haden quarterback wide receiver juju smith schuster. He said that both players even if they didn't were able to go back in the game if needed to be but obviously they didn't have to go back in therefore he's this week though they're gonna let their availability guy. But this is the one time i'll talk about this. I'm sure on my Injury report podcast. This is the one week a year that a player could potentially miss practice all week and still play Look at a guy like joe. Hayden is a veteran. Look at a guy. Like juju smith schuster. Who even though. He's only twenty four. He's the most veteran wide receiver they have on the team. This is a situation where even if they don't practice this week. They only have to practice that they could probably go play and they would be okay so this probably the one exception to that rule but he said they are going to see how they are this week in terms of their availability. He said the trai edmonds jalen samuels. Trey edmunds miss. Last week with a hamstring. Jalen simmons with a quadriceps injury. They both could return but again they're gonna have to work than back in practice. They respond before they can actually deem them to be ready now later in the later in the press conference. He did not mention this with those injuries. he was asked about vance mcdonald. Now has macdonald has been away from the team because of the covid nineteen. He was positive case He been on the reserve list. He said that he is scheduled to work this week. He has been cleared to return but they are going to wait and see how he responds to that work before they decide whether they're gonna you know. Put him back in the lineup. Right away. okay so because of that. This could be a hate to say because gentry gets hurt you hates anyone get hurt but it could be good timing for the steelers with vance mcdonald coming back in gentry going out They have some options on the practice squad with raider and a couple others the vega promote someone. If they had to but still he's scheduled to work. That's good news for vance mcdonald as he comes back off the covid nineteen list. He talked about the baltimore ravens. They just played them a few weeks ago but he did say that there have been some changes in this ravens team. Since the last time they played mainly on offense. He called the evolution of dobbins. Jk dobbins running back rookie from ohio. State was obviously he's he's featured running back now. Mark ingram is time with an ankle injury. He missed the last game against the steelers and really said the dobbins is featured runner because he thinks he has more of a perimeter game. He had a big game against pittsburgh the last time they played. He is the guy for the baltimore ravens in the running game. But he said you know. Some things haven't changed. Obviously lamar jackson is a triple threat. As a runner a playmaker and passer mark andrews on third downs in the red zone and you also mentioned dez bryant as bryant was signed to the ravens practice squad right before the game against the steelers few weeks ago and he said he's getting he's getting more and more looks. He expects his role to expanding it. More as the season progresses so i think he had four catches three or four catches against tennessee. Look for him to get more involved in the game on. We twelve against pittsburgh on thanksgiving night next. He went to the defense societies. It look. they're playing a lot of men up front. They've had a lot of injuries. Claes campbell's out. Williams missed the last game nd how derek wolfe didn't play or was banged up the last time. They played the steelers. He seems to be healthy now. He's a look. This happens across the league. You have injuries you gotta make do. But they have quality death. He said there are formidable. Defense he kept it any went straight straight to the steelers offense against that defense. He said the steelers cannot have slow. Starts talked about. The last time they met is the defense that kept him in a game. Talking about roberts bylanes pick six but depre- strip sack in the red zone. He's you look at those situations. We can't we the steelers tomlin speaking. We can't rely and assume that we're gonna get those turnovers. We have to play better but he did mention also that. It's an honor to be playing on thanksgiving night. He doesn't take prime time for granted. He knows his players. Don't take prime time for granted. Even though it's a holiday he said today are there honored to play their honored to play for their fan base. Who hopefully everyone will get to see them play so he was. He was pretty pleased with that. Then we got into the question and answer portion of the press conference and he was asked about short weeks. What do you do on these short weeks. And he said it really depends on the team. He's been doing this long enough. And since two thousand seven he says it's different for every team some teams. They don't have to focus as much on the details because it changes basically is what you're saying. It fluctuates in. So he said it's different for every team but he feels. This team will be able to handle it just fine. He's asked about ben rothlisberger value to this team and he said he's still writing that script. He is in ben rothlisberger. Still writing that script. He was really really pleased there. He said with patients it. Rothlisberger has with the young wide receivers again. Juju smith schuster celebrated a birthday sunday and he turned twenty four twenty four. And he's the most veteran of all of them but he's he's one of the youngest guys so young group he really loud ben rothlisberger patients with them. He said they're working together. The very selfless and it's paying off but he's at ben. Rothlisberger value is is well-known. But it's still being written. He asked about what they have to do with with. Lamar jackson says look. We just have to have athletes rallying to the ball being disciplined. That's what you have to do to to be in beat. I should say to beat lamar jackson. Whenever you step on the field with him he was asked further about the young wide receivers. And what did he think about this group that you know. Really between juju. Smith schuster diontae johnson and chase claypool. There's only maybe thirty some yards difference between the three of them. It's pretty remarkable. And mike tomlin said they're developing every week. They have challenges. That still lie ahead. He really likes this group. He likes how they're not a selfish group. They really don't care who wins on that particular weekend. In when we're talking about wins were talking about the steelers. That are playing. Well that might be the touchdowns. Whatever he's happy with this young wide receiving corps Talked about the run. Defense was asked if dizzy think. That's trending in the right direction. He said look you have to retool. We can't underscore the significance of tyson. I'll awalu coming back to the lineup. This is something that i've said something. The dave scofield has said every podcastone platform has said you really noticed when tyson allah was missing. He's a huge piece of the puzzle for the defense and having him back helps big time. Let's not forget though tyson. Although when did you get hurt early in the first quarter against baltimore. The last time they played at mt bank stadium. You have to wonder because they got gastro over two hundred sixty yards at game. What would it look like. If tyson who actually was able to play for four quarters will see on thursday night Basically it was asked also about the safeties the fact that terrell edmonds and make his patrick both had to sit two interceptions It was really impressive when you look into that way for interceptions basically from two guys. So he's very detailed in their work. He's happy for both of them but really he mentioned terrell admits. He's this is a guy that has played a lot. He does a lot of dirty work down in the box and when he draws coverage assignments sometimes it's not easy you think about some of the tight ends he's having to cover if he's responsible for running back out of the backfield not easy task for terrell edmund. He was really really happy for the first round. Pick out of virginia tech to get some recognition for the big play. And i mentioned it in my. Let's ride podcasts. Sitting in here that if those two could be both the both be playmakers in some way shape or form just think how great is defense would be. It's already great. It would be even greater if those two guys become not ball. Hawks just playmakers period. All right folks. That was it. Might tomlin's press conference was on a long as you can imagine. They just spoke to him yesterday. After the game now we get into the nitty gritty. So you'll see a it's gonna be a pseudo injury report where they're not gonna practice today but it's a it's in if they practice. Here's what it would have looked like ox plane. All that on my steelers injury report. Podcast a little bit later. Today's it makes you check that out. Also makes you check out my. Let's ride podcast at twelve o'clock on monday I thought this was a really good one. Talked about the magic of the steelers twenty twenty season. Give me good and can be bet makes you check that out and make sure you follows wherever you get your podcasts. Google play itunes apple. Podcast stitcher anchor pandora spotify. You name it. Follow us that you don't miss a thing. And lastly don't forget we are a part of behind the steel curtain dot com. It should be your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers folks in the meantime. I'm jeff harbin co editor of said website. As i always finish these out be safe. Be kind in god. Bless goes dealers we'll see.

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The Mike Tomlin Press Conference Recap: Week 11 vs. Jaguars

Behind the Steel Curtain

12:05 min | 5 months ago

The Mike Tomlin Press Conference Recap: Week 11 vs. Jaguars

"Pittsburgh steeler fans. Welcome back to another mike. Tomlin tuesday press conference recap. I'm your host jeff. Hartmann co editor behind the steel curtain dot com and mike tomlin was speaking about a lot of different topics but mainly getting the fans and the media prepared for the upcoming week. Eleven game cash. It's hard to believe that the steelers or the nfl is in week. Eleven already but here. We are the steelers nine and preparing for the jacksonville. Jaguars losers of eight straight games. But before we get to the breakdown of mike tomlin talking about the jaguars and recapping the bengals game last sunday. He did always as he always does. Talks about injuries. Who right off the top injuries. He did mention this after the game on sunday. The trae edmund suffered a hamstring injury was unable to finish the game so he said that could limit him early in the week. Not sure if he's able to play this week or naughty also added jalen samuels as an game injury against the bengals last week with quadricep injuries. Were not sure if he'll be available as well. You might look at these two players as reserve running backs and say well. What's the big difference. They also do play special teams so keep that in mind as well. He said he was extremely optimistic. That they have not only mike hilton. Who's missed the last four games with a shoulder injury back in the lineup and also chris warmly warmly was put on the injured reserve. The knee injury. They could be getting him off. I are getting him ready to go. That could also be a good thing because if he's back and i mean he is in chris. Warmly is back they would not have to rely on the likes of henry mondo and carlos davis is much especially if as still banged up with his ankle. Injury the steelers seem to be getting healthy at the right time. That's good news. He also did add. This is not injury related but it was not related to either the last game or the upcoming game that the steelers are going to remain in the covid protocol for the second week in a row based on the fact that kevin johnson was put on the kobe list. Now they did not have any high risk contacts just like williams samuels in rothlisberger and hawkins last week. So that's good news but they're gonna remain in the protocol which means everything will be virtual They won't be in the meetings. All the meetings will virtually the only time they'll be in the facility is either to get treatment in which case is scheduled Will be developed so there's not a bunch of players getting treatment at the same time and if they have a practice or walk through other than that. Everything is remote this week for the second straight. We tomlin said that. He's hoping that they do better as a coaching Coaching staff and both players in preparing in a virtual environment. He said that. Sometimes you just missed that face to face. You miss the face to face you know getting the work done knowing that the person that is across from me is listening and following the directions. So that's going to be happening for the steelers here in this upcoming week. Now he did talk about the cincinnati game mainly focused on the ineffectiveness in the running game. He said that you really when you look back at the game. That was the only thing that they could really point out to say. We didn't do this well. He said that honestly he's not too concerned about. It said that they go through lulls. He said every single facet of the game you know throughout the course of the season will go through laws and you have to basically just recenter. Your focus is what he called. He said few weeks ago everyone was bemoaning. The steelers giving up a lot of third and longs on defense. They re their focus and they were able to fix that. They didn't even allow third down conversion at all against joe burrow in the bengals on sunday. He's the only thing that is perfect about. This team is the record. He's they're far from finished product. They have a lot of work to do in the running game. Just personifies what that work needs to be moving forward and moving forward. He did talk about their upcoming opponent. The jacksonville jaguars in he really spoke glowingly of james robinson that is the running back for the jaguars rookie he. He's the historian. General as an undrafted free agent rookie. Who has signed and has been a tremendous player for the jaguars. He's basically their entire offense. He said he's a deliberate one. Cut running back. He has built in leverage. He's not a big guy. Kinda like a little bowling ball. Kind of reminds me of burris jones drew. Maybe a little bit taller. He has great pad level and the jaguars. they're gonna lean on him when it matters. Most instead of the steelers are going to have their work cut out for when it comes to going up against his jaguars offense. You have to stop the run. You half to stop the run once you stop the run. Then you can force the hand instant very inexperienced hands a quarterback but he said the debt is mainly james robinson is the guy that they have to watch out for on defense he said this is a defense takes the ball away. He mentioned that against the green bay packers last week. They want him to lambeau. Almost beat aaron rodgers and company in lambo. And he's the packers protect the football better than anyone in the national football league and yet they were still able to take it away. He's they need to be cognizant of protecting the football. He did mention their linebackers. Mainly miles jack. He's a lot of the pieces of left from that old school in two thousand seventeen a defense but ultimately it's still very well coached group. He mentioned doug marrone is gonna have them ready to play. You also mentioned this day. Tough place to play pittsburgh and jacksonville's always close. It seems like that anyways. I can't tell you the last time there was a jaguars steeler game that was a blowout one way or the other. He said you know they were down in jacksonville. Few years ago. I think it was two thousand eighteen. That was the game where rothlisberger had to scramble at the end. They were trying to do the little pitch to vance mcdonald on the goal. Line to go for the win and not take the field goal and and go to overtime and rothlisberger kept it and barely got the football over the line. I think we all remember that game. He called it a rough and tumble environment and a rough and tumble rivalry. So that's what's coming up for the steelers regards. Do the upcoming opponent then. Obviously he answered some questions. I the question was about. The run game was for the pittsburgh not being able to run the ball effectively. They said does it have to do with personnel does have to do with situation. He said it's both it's everything he said asked to do with you. Know the the people they have on the field it has to do with you know looking at their personnel. I e the cincinnati bengals. The bengals basically dared the steelers to throw knowing that rothlisberger did not practice all week. And then you know with the covert issues and all that all that they basically were saying. We're gonna try to take the runaway. They were putting all their money. On the fact that the steelers we're gonna come out and try to run run run and the steelers beat on the other way. He's into a lot of times. It has to do with in game situations as well. He's asked about marcus allen. Mark the former penn state product to is kind of been a hybrid player for the steelers. This season he's he's a safety by nature but he's a very big safety and they asked. Would he be a potential linebacker in their dime sub package. He said look. They've tried several different combinations. He likes some of the attributes of marcus allen brains to the team in that position but at the same time he said that's a revolving door. There's no way for them to know if he's the guy or if he's just one of the guys that could possibly fill that role but he's been happy with and pleased with allen's development so far this season especially learning a new position moving down to inside linebacker Basically he was asked about the rookies. In how well they're playing and performing and in what that says about the organization in inevitably delve and he's really. It's a culture thing. The veterans helped the rookies. It's not a situation where you have veterans. Don't wanna be around the young players. There's a disconnect aries. These older players are taking the younger players under their wing. They're teaching them. They're getting them in the right place. He's taking care of their body. Everything that you could possibly think of that. You would wanna see in. That development is taking place. That's that speaks of the culture of the pittsburgh steelers. It's good to hear. Of course he was asked about the trap game coming off of you know. Nine straight wins. You're just beat a division opponent at home going back on the road. Is this a trap game. And he said don't he doesn't buy into those theories that stuff that the media talks about. Jesus you can write your article you can have your narratives he's This is not big. Ten vs mac. Football in colleges were all. Nfl players and coaches will have a job to do this the professional level. There are no gimmes in this league. So he definitely pooh-poohed the trap game theory but don't don't worry the fans and media will still talk about it if he's asked about the turnover differential. The steelers are currently second in the national football league with plus nine turnover differential. They have seventeen takeaways to eight turnovers in. He said look this is this is a this is a this is action in conversation. He said every wednesday they have discussions with anyone that carries the ball or throws the ball. They have practices built around taking the ball away as well as protecting the football. So it's not something that they just talk about. They actually practice it actions match words in so he credits add to any. He's obviously the players are just going out and making plays reference camp sutton. He's had two straight forced. Fumbles in the last two games said. That's good news for the steelers. in tokyo. turnovers trend continues. They led the league in turnovers. Last season we'll see if they can be up near the top again. This season like i said in terms of differential. They're currently second plus nine when it comes to forcing turnovers in just speaking of defensive forcing turnovers takeaways. He said they drill it. They drill it every day. They talk about it. They are continually working at how these players can find a way to create turnovers whether it's pass rushers knowing where the quarterback has the ball in his hands going after the football compared to going after the player he talked a lot about forcing turnovers in its it becomes very obvious. It's not luck there are some that are lock but ultimately turnovers in general are not luck it is practicing and so kudos to mike tomlin staff for working on that so well. He was asked if they're entertaining any thought of having james conner. Bb spelled or maybe trying another player with her. Anthony mcfarland the rookie year. An jalen samuels is banged up. Benny snell junior. He said no. They no desire to make any changes at the running back position. They just have to be better. He said from top to bottom offers of line to the runners themselves the coaching staff. They have to be better. So don't expect james conner to be leading the backfield anytime soon and it lasts. Leaves asked about the identity of the steelers organization in their franchise and said the identity is hopefully just winning. He's a we have to be diverse in versatile group. That is capable of. Doing whatever is asked of them to win. That's the identity of the pittsburgh steelers in so far. They are a perfect nine. And oh it's tough to debate. Dad nonetheless there will be those. That will debunk the nine or no one's aids. Not that impressive for this that or whatever reason but you can't apologize for the teams that you play. You just have to go out and win the games and the steelers have a very winnable game. Coming up in jacksonville will see if they can take advantage in head into that thanksgiving day game with the baltimore ravens in a ten in oh record. That would be impressive with that. Said make sure you check out all of our podcasts including my. Let's ride podcasts. Every monday wednesday friday morning. Also check out the live. Mike on tuesday morning. The steelers dacic on thursday morning and also make sure you check out all afternoon podcasts. So that you don't miss a thing where you get your podcasters steelers or behind the curtain and subscribe. Follow whatever you have to do so you don't miss a thing behind the steel curtain dot com should be your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers. I'm jeff hartman. Co editor said website. In the meantime folks be safe. Be kind in. God bless go steelers.

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The Mike Tomlin Post-Game Press Conference Recap: Steelers Bills

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:11 min | 4 months ago

The Mike Tomlin Post-Game Press Conference Recap: Steelers Bills

"From labra doodles to crow. Nuts the world of hybrid so today businesses are taking a smarter hybrid cloud approach using the tools platform and expertise of ibm. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibm dot com slash. Hybrid cloud pittsburgh steeler fans at his time once again to break down another mike. Tomlin postgame press conference breakdown. My name of course is michael back. Deputy editor of behind steel curtain dot com. Getting right into this Postgame breakdown of course. The steelers lost once again now. Two consecutive losses to go along with that original eleven game winning streak steelers have been streaking all year and now streaking in the wrong direction. Coach mike tomlin up his press conference today Just basically talking up the bills like he usually does a giving credit teed opponent. How well they played in were. The steelers have struggled as of late Also gave some some of those injury in breakdowns as he usually. Does this time the two names that he mentioned were matt feiler and kevin dotson who both the left game to a pec injury He did not know the severity on either one of those players but matt feiler was ruled out fairly quickly after going down in i believe the first quarter so it is both both believed could potentially be quite serious coach tomlin also his his press conference monologue just by saying at his team didn't make the place and the other guys did and that also the steelers need to be ready for next week against the cincinnati bengals on monday night football getting into question period coach tomlin was asked about ben rothlisberger at the end of the first half Coach tomlin basically answered that as being the significant play of the game. Those possession type Downs those book end type. Plays at the end of half are extremely important As coach tomlin talked about throughout his entire press conference but he's specifically singled this out and mentioned how the team struggled to finish off those significant level place and that being the pinnacle of them. Coach tomlin was then asked about the offense as a whole which has regressed in recent weeks and what they're going to have to do to turn it around and whether or not they have enough time to even fix it. Coach tomlin basically just said yes they do have enough time to fix the offense before the end of the season and basically just left it at that Coach tomlin was then asked about josh allen and his success in this game Coach tomlin was very complimentary of the bills quarterback josh allen in this game he he did call josh allen. Mvp level talent this year. He also said he made the plays and in the second half he just started a figure stuff out coach. Tomlin was then asked about the bills scoring to start the second half and how important that was to the game He said that was one of the things that makes team successful. In one of the things steelers always try to do book and Halftime with scoring type plays Which of course the bills were able to do with the pick six before the half and then coming in with a long touchdown drive to start the second. Essentially what kind of killed the game for the steelers and killed their momentum. From that point on coach. Tom was then asked to basically about The offense throwing the ball short and why they weren't able to move on from that. Basically coach tomlin said this team. A has had tons of issues Completing those third-down possession type plays. Whether or not they can convert those places. What's leading to this team Just running very basic type plays on first second and third down there only having three plagiarize and they're not able to get in their play establish anything because they're not picking up those first downs and those are mistakes. That team needs to clean up. Coach tomlin was then asked about stefan digs coach. Tom would wasn't having any of any of it when it came to Trying to figure out the success of digs because mike tomlin detaille stefan digs is an absolute beast and he was not going to take away anything that he's done this year pointing out. The fact already has one hundred receptions on the season the really the final question of the question period for coach. Tomlin was james conner. Snap count of course. He didn't play a ton in this game. jalen samuels. Got a ton of reps Benny snell saw a snapper. Twos well at running back. Of course james conner was coming back from being on the covert list after having a battle with covid nineteen Coach tomlin once again. Said this was a more of an issue of this t not being able to complete those Possession type downs James conner would be that bell cow type player Even tonight if the steelers were able to move the football which again. They weren't so that about wraps things up for the steelers up. Press conference breakdown this week. Of course the steelers moved to eleven to and the season Nearly completely out of chance at winning the afc now with that loss basically the steelers are gonna have to win out and the chiefs are going to have to lose two of their last. Three games and one of those games Potentially would have to be against the a loss angeles chargers so things are looking kinda grim right now in steel town. The cleveland browns are again hot on the steelers heels. A win against baltimore tomorrow night would put them one game out of first place in the afc north and potentially a showdown for a week. Seventeen for the afc north championship. The steelers could potentially be the first team to start a year eleven. Oh and not even win their own division steelers need to get things turned around and they need to get things turned around fast for the mike. Tomlin press conference breakdown from behind the steel curtain dot com. My name is michael back. We will see guys next week and hopefully with some better more positive news. Catch you guys then.

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Week 10 (Part 2)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

21:10 min | 1 year ago

Week 10 (Part 2)

"It's time to eat four. Sit Down and get ready to consume in abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Ross. Tucker and Joe Dolan we now on the fantasy feast eaten podcast. Yeah let me baby. Fantasy fees eaten. podcast asked and guess what this episode is presented by Patriarch on dot com slash. RT media. What is that you might ask? It is only absolutely love all the patrons that support the R. T. Media Podcast family early and the slack channel. Whether it's betting discussion fantasy discussion just topics from the show. It is awesome. Minute is is on fire these days. Check it out. Support the show Patriot dot com slash. Our T. Media Joe. Let's start start episode to with the dolphins at the Colt. That high flying dolphins offense that of course after their first win loses loses Mark Walton for four games and Preston Williams for the rest of the season what a heartbreaker for the dolphins. And you know this is the last week was an an example of two teams going in opposite directions. And I'm of the mind that you can't really evaluate Brian Florez by like the schemes on the field. We know this is not a good roster. What you can evaluate is the effort of the guys that are playing for him and that is high effort team that route that's rallying around and in that case Brian? Flora's in my opinion has done a good job essentially essentially coaching a team. That's designed to lose but the designed to lose is unfortunately well the football gods took over some of that because right after they won they lost two of their best offensive players now apparently they knew about the Walton suspension. But unfortunately I have zero interest in playing Kaelin Balaj. I think he's just really just. It's not a very good football player so I'm probably staying away from that. The one guy in a deeper league I would take a look at over the next. Four weeks is miles gaskin rookie running back back at Washington. I'm not picking up and starting them this week but if you're in a deeper league fourteen teamer. With a deep bench. Dynasty League Keeper League might be worth an advocacy if he gets some touches here behind Kaelin Balaj. I would be interested in seeing that in the passing game. devante Parker is probably going to get the shadow coverage appeared this year. If this year is healthy enough because with no Preston Williams I would think Parker's really their only threat Albert Wilson's probably going to get a few more snaps Takim grant but none of these guys outside. A Parker are fantasy. Relevant Parker is on the wide receiver. Three range from me. There is one guy though who I think is now all starting to come into his own just a little bit. He's owned in about five percent of fantasy leagues. He had six catches for ninety five yards last week over his last four or games. He's caught fifteen of twenty targets. It is it's a position that takes a long time to learn sometimes at the NFL. Because you have to learn about the blocking schemes the passing game gene and the run game and he's a guy who was kind of a took a little bit of time in college as well. That's Mike is the second year player out of Penn State had had his best game of career last week and there is no reason for the Miami Dolphins to knock at him more targets with Preston Williams. Now out for the season I would anticipate Mike Kosinski to be the second that can leading target getter on the Miami Dolphins the rest of the season behind. devante Parker wow I like that. He's definitely a very naturally gifted in terms of his ability to run the football player right but he started figuring out had there was a time there where it looked like. Oh my God. I can't believe they took this guy over Dallas Goddard and people are freaking out about it but it looks like he's starting to figure it out a little bit Ross and now the dolphins don't what did the dolphins have to lose football games. They're already one in seven. They're designed to lose football games. Mike sick he's going to get a ton of targets from here on out. He is somebody to consider. Consider if you're struggling at the tight end position they're playing the colts and We don't know again right now whether or not it's going to be heuer or Brusett. I guess my question would be. Does that really change anything for you either. Way L.. The Vegas things it does because Vegas doesn't have a line for this game right now. because Because of the injury I think the colts might look at this and say we should be able to win this game with a veteran quarterback at home. And they're going to hold out percent. That would would be my expectation right now. It doesn't look like it's a particularly serious injury but as you mentioned I mean Brian Hoyer did all right last week. He had a couple of turnovers. The interception was was was a bad one but it was also a great play by Mika Fitzpatrick. Hoyer had just thrown a touchdown to Jack Doyle on that skinny post and he thought he had it again. And minkah think Patrick was like don't and then he intercepted the ball and ran it. Back for a touchdown So that was good a play recognition by Minka Fitzpatrick. But where throws for three eight touchdowns Zach. Pascal has been a really really good weapon for this offensive late. T. Y.. Hilton Probably GonNa miss this game. It looks like Ah Think Adam Schefter reported last week. That was a three week injury. Unfortunately it doesn't go. You're you're worried about Pascal. Pascal did at five. For Seventy six and a touchdown down he led all of their wide receivers with ninety four percent snap rate. He's now topped eleven fantasy points in four of his last six games. Brian Hoyer needs to throw the ball of somebody and this is not a dolphin secondary. That's going to hurt Zach Pascal. It's a great match up. I think he's great for DFS This Week So whether it's hoyer whether it's percents it doesn't really matter to me Zach. Pascal is going to be a core. DFS Plan for me in this matchup. I don't think. Ty Hiltons can apply. Oh and by the way Paris Campbell. The rookie receiver just broke his hand. So there's more targets that need to be filtered the way Zach Pascal anything else that should be said about the colts whether it's tight ends running backs Marlin Mac is going to be a core. DFS play this week for a lot of people The colts are the colts are. Whether it's Hoyer or it's it's going to be home favorites and you would anticipate this will be at twenty plus carry game from Arlen Mack Marla ORLA MAC and Derrick. Henry are actually very similar fantasy. It just so happens the culture slightly better team offensively but for fantasy. They're very simple like they're twenty are doc twenty carries and you hope they got a touchdown rams steelers rams coming off a bye. What he got their Jo- well? The question is does brandin cooks play a he had his second concussion of the season. And while every concussion is something that you have to take a a case by case Every concussion is unique. We still don't know a lot about them. If we compare it to Sterling Shepard who suffered his second concussion of the season and now our wondering if we're going to see him again. There is a chance brandin cooks does not play in this game and Brandin cooks does not play. A Josh Reynolds is going to get snaps. We actually saw him catch a touchdown of before the by here with Brandin cooks out of that game so keep an eye on that situation. This steelers secondary is really tough of course though and with Minkah. It's Patrick now. I've I've made the argument that this is a that was a bad trade for the steelers but Fitzpatrick has essentially won them. Two Games the last two weeks. So he's making me. Eat My my words. This is a tough steeler secondary. I would actually anticipate. This is a tough sledding. Game for the entire Ram offense. Does that mean you're benching Cooper workup now. Does it mean you're benching Robert Woods. Who's been huge disappointment? No it doesn't mean those things but they're probably some people you have to temper expectations nations for and that includes Jared Goff okay. What about the running backs? What about what else we got going here This is this is the big watch it and see type of game in the Backfield for me. Because I've been of the mind that Darryl Henderson is far more explosive than Todd Gurley at this stage I think Darryl Henderson could potentially be a league winner if Todd girlies role shrinks the question is does Malcolm Brown Comeback Muddy things up so as we sit the Only guy in this backfield you can play is girly. But it's evident he does not have the explosiveness and he doesn't have the role in the passing game. That made him a fantasy superstar. So he's he's just rb to at this point for me and I'm watching Henderson and Brown to see what's going on behind him on the other side the steelers they've you throw them all samuels a lot. Yeah Jalen Sandals got a ton of targets. We'll see what happens with James Connor. I actually talked to Jalen Samuels on Sirius. XM and he's like look. I I understand how people view me the after I came out of college. But he considers himself running back but this is what people when people were drafting. Jalen Samuels around the eighth ninth tenth round in August even with James Connor going in the second round. This is what people anticipated. He has a role as a pass catcher. That could be very very effective. Even even independent of James Connor so of James Connor doesn't play Jalen. Samuels fire him up yet. Again as a P. P. R. R. B. One I love I love that That that play. Because I I really don't like the matchup for Mason Rudolph going against Aaron Donald and company and then of course that secondary that has Jalen Ramsey. The question is if they move Juju into the slot. Does Jalen Ramsey see a lot of deontay Johnson. Does he see a lot of James Washington. I wouldn't feel comfortable playing either. I either of those guys given the presence of Jalen Ramsey and Juju even if I do expect him to move into the slot well he hasn't exactly been getting it on a consistent basis either so he's a wide receiver three Mason Rudolph. I'm not considering after he threw for just one hundred ninety one yards on thirty five pass attempts last week so ultimately this is a backfield or bust type of game for the steelers for me. Maybe with a look to Vance McDonald tight. End Who scored a touchdown last week. Let's get to the best of the late afternoon games. The Panthers at the Packers Cam Newton on I R. This will be Kyle Allen's team. What do you see from Allen and the panthers offense against the pack? Well it was good to see Kyle Allen Bounce back and play well against a pretty tough defense. It's now Alan completed. Seventeen of thirty two passes but he did throw for two thirty two in two touchdowns after I believe being picked off on his first series against the titans. So Kyle Allen now. He knows it's his job you know. He doesn't have to look over his shoulder. I expect Kyle Allen to come out and play a solid game now on the road and not terribly enthused by him in this spot. I'm not really looking to play him for fantasy. Dj More had his first hundred yard game of the season last week. You would expect geijer. Alexander is going to see a lot of him. I think Alexander's are beatable player. But he's a good one so I think both Curtis Samuel Samuel and Dj more are on the wide receiver. Three type of range here Certainly certainly guys who. I kind of liken them almost to the Titans Para guys the the unique. You never really know which one to play. But there guys you can plug in and hope that they make a big player to and obviously Christian McCaffrey you just start him every week. A his draftkings price is outrageous right. Now they've bumped them up to ten point five K which I mean it it there basically making it prohibitive to play him. But you know you're going to get rewarded each and every week if you do play him I mean he somebody. Who's WHO's a threat to score three touchdowns every game? What else is there to say about the panthers? Anything Greg Olsen is like the single most boring player in all fantasy football but he's usable. Last week he caught three passes for forty yards. There's actually guys at the tight end position. I'd prefer to take a shot on though I even like I'd rather play Mica sickie than Greg Olsen. I just feel like there's more upside there all right and then for the pack. That was a very surprising and disappointing performance for them. It was a burn the tape game mm-hmm and it's of course are gonNA be Aaron Rodgers. I think they'll bounce back this week. I truly do worth pointing out that. The panthers gave up two touchdowns to Derrick Henry last last week including a long receiving touchdown. Not only do I think this is a bounceback game. Aaron Rodgers I think it's a bounceback game for Aaron Jones. I think he is a guy who I it will be comfortable putting into my defense lineups this week. Coming off of that crappy game. They're five point five to six point favorites against Carolina. They should be playing from ahead. Aaron Jones at the top-five option at the running back position. This week. You can fire Davante Adams backup. He had seven catches for forty one yards on eleven targets. But again I think that was a burn the tapes Iowa game for the packers. I expect bounce back from this entire offense. I do want to point this out though. There is no other wide receiver. You can play here outside a Davante Adams it's atoms and then they're just they're just rotating guys it's been a really disappointing season for Valdez gambling. Allen Lazard is Kinda overtaken him in way wow okay. Are we good to move on to the Vikings cowboys then in your mind are and that's a good game. Yeah Sunday night football. Let's go with the Vikings Likings. They didn't get it done against the chiefs and Adam feelings out one of my real pet peeves is when they they have a guy come back from a hamstring injury especially on a short week like that before he's ready now he's aggravated. I personally wouldn't expect to see Theo until after after the vikings by Joe. What does that mean for them from a personnel standpoint? Well this Dallas Defense doesn't really scare me a whole lot of the one thing that if they did do was pressure Daniel Jones last week and as you saw kirk cousins if you can get in his face and if you can get in his face and you can force him him to get off his spot early you could make them uncomfortable. I think we saw that against the chiefs. He's kind of one of those guys. Where if you if you get them off the spot the first quarter you feel like Oh this is going to be one of those kirk cousins games where you don't know where the ball's going as a result Stefan has just four receiving yards in that game even with Eh Adam dealing leaving early I would anticipate step on digs? Gets his against the cowboys. I'm going to predict. He goes up and over one hundred yards in this game. Even with Byron Jones following him around I think digs goes up and over one hundred with no feeling. I'm not expecting him to play either. This is a Stefan digs and Dalvand Cook game from my hi perspective. I think those two guys are going to be the focal point of the Vikings offense. They are every week but I think more so in this game my prediction official. Is that both step up on Dixon Valve and cook it over. One hundred yards from scrimmage in this game wow okay. That sounds good to me. Anybody else in the Vikings. I guess that's pretty much everything and that's about it for the Vikings maybe you take a shot on. ABC Johnson if you're desperate for a wide receiver as we've mentioned on these two podcast. This week there are six ext teams on by. There are a lot of good players on by. YOU MIGHT BE A. You're going to be in a spot in in some of your leagues where you're playing somebody that you're not comfortable playing if Phelan Ellen doesn't go all the BBC. Johnson scored a touchdown last week. I scored into his last three games. He somebody you can take a shot on cowboys. They got a bunch of guys involved. Amari Stud Gallup made a play. Zeke was unstoppable. They should throw the ball to Darwin. More what do you got yeah. So here's I here's the deal. They're one of those narrow fantasy teams and the guys that you could consider our guys who wanNA play every week tough match-up against the Vikings defense. But they are at home so Dak Prescott probably back end of your top ten. But he's been a good fantasy quarterback this year and because he's at home. I feel a little bit better about it. Zeke I mean you just this lock them in each and every week Michael Gallup and Amari Cooper these are the two focal points for me because as good as his defense can be. I have problems with the secondary because I don't think Xavier Rhodes Trae. Wayne's can really run with these cowboys receivers so those are the two guys who focusing on here. I I project both of them to get seventy targets in this game. I think the cowboys are going to have more success. Throwing the ball and running in this one. Even though. You're playing Zeke. Anyway Yeah Yeah what. What else for the cowboys in particular? I want to know about Darwin because he has more juice than win. I witnessed another one one of those guys he's like Greg Olsen. I would rather take shot on a Mike Kosinski. Then playing Jason Win well all right. Let's get to Monday night. Then it is the seahawks at the niners awesome Monday night game. How about this slate of Primetime aims this week chargers Oakland Oakland on Thursday? That's a fun one divisional game. Minnesota Dallas is going to be pivotal in the NFC playoff race and then we have a game that might decide the NFC west this is the NFL. We've had a lot of bad primetime games. Ross not this week we got some good ones. No you're right let's start with the seahawks. EXP pretty narrow it exactly Chris Carson Tyler Lockett Decay Metcalf Russell Wilson startle. I don't care against two. This is a tough match-up I chop. It may be if you have a Lamar Jackson. Russell Wilson Decision. You play Lamar Jackson. But I mean these guys tyler lockets of wide receiver gratuitous. I decay. Metcalf is high wide receiver. Three Chris Carson gets too many carry to bench any week and Russell Wilson's the NFL MVP right now. So you start those guys the the one guy I do want to keep an eye on and I'm not really playing them this week but just keep an eye on it. He scored two touchdowns and while Tutt tight end touchdowns sometimes fluky Jacob Hollister did play eighty percent of the snaps last week and he scored two touchdowns he has overtaken Luke Wilson as their number one tight end so just keep an eye on Jacob Hollister allaster from from the seahawks but against this good forty niner defense on the road. I'm not really excited about playing him. Okay yeah that's a good note. What about the Niner's on the other side? Well this is a good week for Jimmy Garoppolo if you need a streaming quarterback because this is not your daddy's Legion of boom. The seahawks are giving up a lot of production through the air. They've actually been giving up a lot of production basically everywhere but through the air in particular we saw with. The buccaneers did to them last week and while well I mean nobody's going to mistake. San Francisco's offense for the buccaneers offense. At least at the receiver position Emmanuel Sanders has given them real life at the wide receiver position so he is a high end wide receiver to for me this week. George Kettle is a slam dunk. Top three tight end and I'm actually starting to feel all right about Deebo. Samuel I know he dropped touchdown. I know he did but he got seven targets. He gives them some explosiveness he is kind of a lower end guy. You could consider sitter this week so sanders Lakum in kiddle lock them in Deebo Samuel kind of a low end of flex option wide receiver. Three if you need them this week. I love Jimmy as a streaming quarterback coming off the best game of his career last Thursday night against Arizona and in the backfield Brita and Coleman. I still consider. Peter Coleman the better option. Brita looks better last week but both of those guys can be inconsideration for your lineup with so many teams by Joe you of outdone yourself again again. That was outstanding almost as outstanding as getting fifty percent on whatever money you deposit at bed online dot. Ag Fifty fifty percent five zero. Pretty freaking awesome if you ask me bet online dot. AG The Promo Code is podcast one and you you get a fifty per cent. Welcome bonus plus I win this podcast. One sports net challenge. I get to put one hundred dollars into five of your accounts which is pretty pretty nice other than that. Make sure you check

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Steelers Burning Question: Which 2nd year player will have the biggest jump in 2019?

Behind the Steel Curtain

30:32 min | 2 years ago

Steelers Burning Question: Which 2nd year player will have the biggest jump in 2019?

"The Pittsburgh Steelers fans on this is Jeff Harbin editor of behind the steel curtain dot com. With for another episode of the Steelers burning question were back last week, we had a really good episode if you haven't listened to that one yet, I highly recommend that you do. All you to do is go back live on YouTube. It was also on our audio platforms in what we debated was which two thousand seventeen draft pick will have the biggest impact in two thousand nineteen and we basically broke down between three players James Connor TJ watt and jujubes Michigan. I'm not going to get into details there. But if you're new to the show, that's kinda gist we think of a question and we answer that question. And then afterwards, I answer your questions, if you have any that are related to the Pittsburgh Steelers into today's burning question is, again, I think it's difficult, and it's it's team easy on paper. And a lot of these questions is the same thing here in the live chat. For those that are watching live on YouTube. A you always see the same people that chime in right away. When I answered asked the question they think they are the answer right away. When in reality, sometimes when you think about it might not be so black and white, and there's a lot of gray matter, especially in this one. Okay. So here's the question he looked at the headline or the title of this episode. You know what it is? That is, which second year player is due to have the biggest jump in two thousand nineteen. When I say jump, I mean, the biggest improvement, so I think a lot of people might misconstrue what I'm trying to say with which players can have the biggest impact I decided not to go that way. Because to me, that's a really easy answer. You have to players essentially that are going to vie for starting positions. One of them play the entire season last Terrell Edmonds for first round draft pick until eighteen and James, Washington, other than that, you don't have a lot of players that are guaranteed a spot. Maybe. Cider Jalen Samuels. So what I wanna do though before we get into the nitty gritty and break this down. I want to talk about or basically lay out in case you forgot the two thousand eighteen draft class which, again was a pretty solid draft glass in hindsight, a lot of people didn't like it originally. But at the same time, here we are. And a lot of these players are still with the football team, so round one as his said, Terrell Edmonds out of Virginia Tech round to James Washington out of Oklahoma state wide receiver then it to third round picks. Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma state and Chuck womb. A- a- core. Four out of western Michigan offense to tackle, Marcus Allen safety, Penn State. Jalen singles running back, North Carolina State, and then Joshua Frazier, defensive tackle in the seventh round out of Alabama, all of those players outside of Joshua Frazier who recently announced his retirement from football are still with the team in some way, shape or form. So the question again. In case you're warning us late. Or maybe you weren't paying attention which of these players are going to make the biggest job again. It's not the biggest impact, I think it saved to say that Edmonds in Washington, it would be one or the other for the biggest impact based on the fact that they're going to have the best chance of playing the who's going to improve the most from year one to year two, that is the question in that, in my opinion is a much more difficult question to answer so right off the bat. I look at these players, and Ian with Edmonds of Washington, man. They have a ton of room to grow thrill. Edmonds, I said this before on the standard is a standard. Shout out to my co host Lance Williams air who also does his own show. Yeah. I said at aired yesterday. Check it out on our audio platforms anywhere where you search for podcast. Just search Steelers or behind the steel curtain, and you'll find this last one was a good one. Check it out. But still, we talked about James Washington, and we talked about drill Edmonds at length the other David Edmonds. I felt that is a safety. He wasn't playing instinctual football. And this is common. This isn't a knock on Edmunds. He was in the right spots. But sometimes he was taking angles. He just wasn't reacting. He wasn't trusting his his reads, it wasn't trusting his own film study. He basically is out there trying not to make a mistake in. I don't blame the kid he was thrust into a starting role when let's be honest. He probably wasn't prepared and ready for it. So Terrell Edmonds has a ton of room to grow. Same can be said about James Washington as a receiver he didn't see a lot of time did catch a couple touchdown passes, but he's more. Remember, probably for the drop in Denver where he dove for the past, and he didn't have to that was the play the Ben Rothlisberger criticized him. He's a hard worker all reports are that he is lost some weight this off season in that he. Came is coming into OTA's. Probably maybe down ten pounds, ease faster his endurance is up that bodes well for him. He's going to have an opportunity with Antonio Brown gone to be one of those playmakers Mazen Rudolph everyone knows I love Mason Rudolph. I think he's very good quarterback. I think that if he were a day Scofield said it best, my one of my co host on the Steelers preview air tomorrow night on each to hear live around nine nine thirty. He's visited Mason Rudolph were in this past two thousand nineteen draft class. He would have been a first-round quarterback. And I believe that he was in a really good class slip to the third round into dozen eighteen but still, I think Mason Rudolph because big bell when he was drafted. Everyone thought okay, this is the backup. This could be the future heir to the quarterback thrown. And he looks rough around the edges. I'll remember Green Bay is I passed as a pick six. He didn't protect the ball. Well, he looked like he was struggling taking the ball from under center, which is. On the he did not do often or at all at Oklahoma state. I expect a lot of improvement for Mason Rudolph, even though we all hope that he doesn't see the field because if he sees the field. It's because Mason, I'm sorry. Ben Rothlisberger is injured at the same time, I think you could see dramatic dramatic or even drastic improvement for Mason Rudolph from his rookie season into a seconds. He's, we will get to see that obviously in the preseason then you get Szucs core for Chook woma, a core of four from western Michigan. He started a game last year. People often forget, that he went up to Denver and started net game from that filer who was also injured. And he did okay against von Miller. I always preface this with her. I, I was put a little, you know, Asterix here, by that and say he did get a lot of help. Okay. They chipped on on von Miller of every passing down. They threw a tight end over top of core for often but he still. Held his own. This is a guy that was my mom checks last draft pick with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And you gotta believe that if you believe in the Mike Monchique magic that if they went out and took this kid in the third round from western Michigan as a tackle that he has a tremendous amount of potential. Now question is, though, is with munch had gone is the, the new coach going to be able to get that out of the players as much acted debt might impact his progress from your one year to everything that we've heard is that this coach is going to be great. His name escapes me. I apologize. But ultimately, I think a core for could be. He's vying for a starting job at right tackle, with Marcus Gilbert, traded, Arizona, you've met filer, who I believe would be the leader in the clubhouse, so to speak. But he's, he's there, Marcus Allen, fifth round pick out of Penn State. You have him and he didn't play much less. He did make the team. He was inactive a lot by the end of the season. He you saw him on the field, more and more special teams. He's a guy that is big. He's a thumper. He likes to hit not really known for his coverage skills. But at the same time he's athletic again, you look at these players in we're not asking, who's gonna have the biggest impact Raskin, who's gonna make the biggest jump from year one to year two. Thank you read for saying, Sean Seret, believe, is how you say his name. He's the new office of line coach. Thank you, very much in the live chat, appreciate it. And then even think about it. The fifth round second fifth round pick. They at Jaylen Samuels. He's be he could be the Swiss army knife. So to speak for the offense as he can line up tight end h back he can split out wide, and he proved last year, he can run the ball between the tackles. He racked up over a hundred and forty yards rushing against the New England Patriots. When J James Connor was hurt in week fifteen so you look at all these players and a lot of. Hated this draft class. They hated Edmonds. They said he was reach they didn't like Washington's production is rookie year. They thought Mason Rudolph was a wasted pick cts was a project, Marcus Allen was drafted to high. Jalen Samuels was nothing more than gimmick player. He you heard all of it. But the one thing I look at this, this draft class say is filled and it reeks of potential. That's very dangerous. Word for me when I used to coach used to tell my team we've got a ton of potential, but that's a really dangerous word because you can live in your mind. You can almost get engulfed by potential thinking we're going to be so good. We have all this potential and you forget to work hard, actually live up to that potential. So there's an expectations on some of these players now. We'll see how they handle that. But let's get back to let's get back to the main question here who will make the biggest jump. I could make. A case seriously from his every single one of these players. But if I'm gonna say who's gonna make the biggest jump from year one year two. To me, it's a it's a toss up between three players Edmonds. Washington in a core for N. Yes, it just happens to be those of the three players vying for starting jobs. I was a Edmonds already has a starting job breaking it down from there. Edmonds is gonna be a. I feel like if he can just be a playmaker in the back end and not just the guy that's going to be in the right place at the right time. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the sealers they have that in Sean Davis ready, a guy that is pretty solid turns of his coverage being where he's supposed to be. They need throw. Edmonds to be a little bit more of a freelancer making plays interceptions things of that nature chains Washington, my goodness. What a position he's in, in Tokyo Brown has gone. The team needs another wide receiver then. Yeah, he's going to be battling against Moncrieff. But ultimately, he has a ton of he's a ton of possibilities for he's gonna have. My gosh me think about it. He's gonna have a ton of opportunities. That's where I was looking for to actually go to improve his worth on the football field in a core for again. He was a third round draft pick munch. Hacksaw something in this kid, I wouldn't be stunned, because a lot of people not me not people on the website draft, you know draft experts easier quotes air. They said that, if that if a core for would have gone to Alabama in not western Michigan. He would have been a first round draft pick. That's how much potential this kid has. So you look at all that those three players, I think that the person has the opportunity of the biggest jump is actually James Washington, when you watch James Washington, play last year, you saw a guy that he looked like a deer in the headlights at times, he looked I it was personified on that pass in Denver where he dove for the ball and didn't have to. He just seemed I know he's, he's not an outward guy. He's not your juju Smith Schuster. That's rambunctious and loves to be in front of the camera. He seems like the complete opposite. He sees like an introvert seems like a guy that is just he's there to do his job in, that's it. But ultimately he, he can be so much more than that. If you saw his film, you saw his his deep threat ability at Oklahoma state. He absolutely could be that for the Steelers. And so I think that he is the one that's gonna make the biggest job. I expect big things from him this year and said, that's where I'm gonna go at this time. I think that I want to know what you all think if you're in the live chat, if you're on behind the curtain dot com, go to the comments section, or if you're watching this and replay on YouTube, good of the comments section. Let me who you think will have the biggest jump again. Not the biggest impact because I think they would easily be Terrell. Admits he's gonna play the most. But I think that the in terms of progress and things of that nature, then obviously, you would have to see from the, the difference in year one and your two will look for who's that player. It's going to be, wow. Look at that what a huge difference. That's what I'm talking about what I'm talking about making that jump. Okay. So let me know what that's all about. I want to hear what you all have to think about that in the live chat and everywhere else. I'm Todd dandruff. 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He always says that he believes its relevance will be the, the boy with the biggest jump is to be able to play faster. I'm not gonna disagree like I said, I could make a case for every single one of these players. I could make a case for Jalen Samuels when you think about what he did is rookie. What's he going to do in his second year? Is he he's gonna know the office more? They're going to be utilize him more in different ways I very glassy, especially for the first. Three fourths of the season. He had a very small hit a very small portion on his plate in terms of the playbook. It's going to be the whole thing. Now, they're been open up the Pandora's box with, with Jalen same. I could make a case for all these guys. But this is also the time where. For me. I want to answer your questions about the Steelers. And so if you want you don't have to. But if you want, you can use the super chat, feature, we have a lot of people in the live chat right now, and they're asking questions, and they're making comments. And that's fine. But if you want you to question answered guaranteed to be answered when you're looking at your phone, or you're looking at your computer where it says, Chad publicly, there's a little money son on the right. You can donate any amount of money straight to the show, and we appreciate all the support. It will be highlighted, and then I will be able to see that and I will answer your question for sure. A we answer every single super chat question, No matter what you don't have to use it. But it's there if you want to use it. So at this time, if you have questions fire away. In the meantime, I wanna see what you all think a lot of people are a lot of people were saying about the question of the show, which is which players gonna make the biggest jump. Sub. You're saying, Jalen Samuel summer, saying core four, even though Iran chess is a corporal via the back of the filer, Washington works hard, who worked that point teammates, like they know how good he is. I think that's true. I he. That's true. See his James, Washington was Mason real target. This is true. It Oklahoma state. They were teammates scrolling back up here. A someone's at Edmonds. They think Edmonds will be. Have better opportunities show of his skills, and I see slightly more potential in him than the rest, but I'm a fan boy for Rudolph. So I don't know yet where there's, you're not the only fan boy, Mason Rudolph. All right. L A's, says, do you think coach? Randy Randy feet norm. Assuming fines and things to do a same next year. I absolutely do, even though you lose Antonio Brown. I think that this is an offense where they can be very selected as to how they deploy their receivers and running backs to me if I were drawing up an offense for the Steelers this year. It's not gonna be your typical. Okay. We're, we're gonna three wide receiver said here. Good the same three wide receivers. I think they're going to have sets where you might see juju in the slot. You might have Dante Moncrieff wide, and you might have Jalen Samuels off of off of the bond Scher. You went up juju out what they can deploy their receivers in so many different ways this year. I think Randy feet, and her would be full. Wish not to actually go out and try to just maximize matchups. Vance McDonald is a match up nightmare. If you put him out in the slot juju Smith Schuster. I saw on pro football focus. He has the most yards receiving the last two years from the slot. He's a phenomenal slot receiver. It it's gonna be fun to watch. They can really utilize these players in not have to worry that one egotistical wide receiver getting the ball so many times. But I digress. Here we go. This is interesting. Mike says Ola Dana, who was drafted was undrafted to eighteen he's at he's gonna make the biggest job. That's very good point. I did not think about him. I did not list him because he was not drafted, but still, he's worth talking about he could be that death piece that the Steelers need alongside Anthony chick low at outside linebacker says a really good point. I didn't think of that. Here we go shield chips in appreciate the super chatty said he'd, you think will be the third pass rusher at outside linebacker going into two thousand nineteen. I would love to say anyone other than chick low, but I'm not dumb enough to think that the Steelers are not going to did they're gonna they're gonna they just paid him to your contract. They, they gave him a lot more than I would have. And so it's going to be bud depre-, and TJ watt starting chick low there in the question, then is do they keep more than three on their active roster last year? They did it last year. They had three guys. That's it just three. And I was stunned. Everyone by self Dave Scofield. We did our predictions for our fifty three man roster predictions, and everyone at least had them keeping four and they didn't know some might say that a Denny's hamstring injury contributed to that. I'm not so sure. Nonetheless, they went into the season played the majority of the season with three Outside Linebackers on their active roster. I don't think it happens this year. I think it didn't. Yeah. Is going to force as well there if he if he improves so there you have that. So good question shield. Appreciate that. Let's here. Sees west, you think Sutton Smith were replace? Vince is here. No, no. I doubt I don't think. Sutton smith. I can tell from reading comments and seeing what people are saying on the internet about sons they're falling in love with this guy. He's just smaller player. He plays hord. He's got the numbers to back it up at a smaller school northern Illinois. If he makes the team awesome, special teams, demon great anything more than that is, is, is literally icing on the cake. I'm expecting him to make the team I expect him to play solid special teams and that's it. He's a project. He's not polished in. I mean, if he comes out and stuns me, I'll be the first to eat crow and say off his my bad. But at the same time I'm not expecting it. So I like Sutton Smith. Don't get me wrong. But I don't think he's going to be the impact player. Everyone else thinks he's going to be read asked is already burns make the fifty three man roster. We talked about this on another show. I am not so sure that he makes the fifty three man roster depends on house pre. But that doesn't mean that he gets cut. I could actually see them getting traded. I could I could see them if he's playing well in the preseason he showing that he might be starting to turn it around. But he's not at the point where he's gonna break the, the Deb breakthrough the depth chart. Maybe they train them away. There's going to be someone that will trade him for him if he showing some promise in, that is a gigantic if when you watch last season, and what happened with him. So. Aereo. Let's hear always ready for thirty read to go. He was a good, novelty while lasted. I could see Ulysses. Gilbert, I could see Sutton Smith at I just described replacing him especial as a special teams player. That's essentially what they have in him in my opinion. See, I two reasons he sees Smith. And you was Gobert as the new Ford Medicaid, which maybe it'll be interesting. I don't know much about Gilbert. We did a draft profile of actually a fan post that I promoted to the page today and I got to know him a little bit better. I'm reaching out to Espy nation contributors to the MAC and trying to find some more information about him. I don't know much about him because he played it Akron. And there's just not much film out there him. So here we go. David says get ready crow on Smith. I'm not going to be upset if he plays. Well, I don't want you to think that if he goes out in his dominating in plays. Well in the preseason it gets a spot on the fifty three in the rotating minute outside linebacker that I'm gonna be pissed. I'm not mad. I'm gonna be awesome. That's, that's tremendous tremendous value at a draft pick, just solidify that this user are great at drafting a position, which a lot of people question, and that's outside linebacker. So there you go. Let's see here. Civilian questions is not a lot of news coming up, I well, I guess I should say, there's not a lot of news right now coming up. The Steelers will have on the twenty first of maize their OTA's that it's there three weeks of I think it's three days a week where they OTA's, which is then it after that is mini camp. And after many campus one, they go away. They go away for about a month and they come back the July for the they come back for training camp. So coming up that's going to be important. We'll definitely have that cover for you big time. And that'll be a week from tomorrow, the sixteenth, I'm sorry, it's going to be next next week next Wednesday. I can't I can't think right now. So I do want to mention this before I forget, I almost forgot and days, would kill me if he knew I forgot we are going to be doing another give away. So I we not I we gave away two tickets to Dave screw field. Technically did to the Steelers fan blitz party. Whatever was the draft party at Heinz field that was during day three of the NFL draft. We sent to people, it's there. We saw some photos, it was great time that they autograph sessions, rocky Bleier. They met Vance McDonald. All these guys were. It was looked like it was really awesome time. We're going to be giving away a brand new juju. Smith. Schuster jersey Nike jersey, not from China your size whatever size you want. Maybe you want to give it away as a gift, we're going to be giving this away, but we're going to be doing it different last time. We did. The. Trivia in the Email your answers and all that we're not doing that. This is going to be a lot more fun because we're giving away juju Smith Schuster jersey. It's going to have to do a celebrations it's going to be on Twitter. You're going to have to be creative. It's almost to say right now. Listen to the Steelers preview tomorrow night in, Dave will explain it further the rules how we're going to how we're going to judge this, how you can enter, and then we'll pick the winner and the winner will get a brand new juju Smith Schuster jersey. So maybe you've always, you know, Judas misuse it looks like he's going to be around a while. I'm very picky with my with my jerseys. I don't like to buy jerseys, because I'm afraid, I have Kendra bell syndrome people. Okay. That's what happened to me. When I was a kid Kendra bell was the defensive rookie of the year. And I told my parents, I want number ninety seven I one KENDALL bell, and they got me. Kendra bell. What happened? His ankles couldn't. Stand at all. And he ended up gay he's out the league he's done. And so I still have that Kendra Belgium's. He hanging in my closet, and since then I've been very selective, the jerseys. I buy I only have been Roth. But there are some players. If people ask me I, I want to get a jersey who should I buy and Jews, you might be a guy that I would tell you. But at the same time, I would have told you prior to last season that Antonio Brown would be a good guy. And we know what happened there, but you're not paying for it. So if you wanna juju Smith Schuster or if you know someone that would love one and you wanna give it away as a gift. We don't care. Just listen to the Steelers preview tomorrow night, Thursday night, or Dave Brian and myself go on the air. We're going to detail what you have to do. How long you have to do it, how we're gonna grade it, and then we'll pick the winner and bam. You could win a brand new number nineteen jersey on us. That's it bang. That's that's pretty simple. I hope you'll join this, so. Ron says for jerseys pitcher you the second contract. Hey, Ron, even the second contract does not prove to be enough. Sometimes there are some that are guaranteed. You'll never go out of style. Ryan chase years. One of them. Now, Hines ward Troy Paulo Malu I think James Harrison might be fans good graces again. So maybe he would be okay you could go back to the seventies, those players, you can get any jersey one. So if you're someone that doesn't want to get a current jersey in has him, traded or leave or whatever go the classic you can always go with the classic. So there you go. Make she Choon in to our show tomorrow night. For all those details appreciated one more time. So Lastly, I all the people that aren't alive. 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The Steelers Post-Game Show Part 1: Steelers scratch and claw to take the Texans 28-21

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The Steelers Post-Game Show Part 1: Steelers scratch and claw to take the Texans 28-21

"Pittsburgh steeler fans what's going on this Jeff Hartmann Co editor of behind the steel curtain dot com, and if we sound a little excited today, it's because the steelers had a huge come from behind victory in week three over the Houston Texans Final Score Twenty eight to twenty one. But there's so much more to this game than just the final score. The way that it ended more points could have been scored by the steelers. streaks endings. Gentlemen Welcome to the Post Game Brian Anthony Davis Dave. Scofield. Brian. How are you? I. Know Nothing about steelers football. Real. Glad to be wrong I. Love It. Days go feel it's up who sorry had to run in here real quick after writing another article. Job still continues. This is great I was about ready to have I thought it was going to get on a flight although I got this works this way right now with covert I was ready to go to Australia I'd? Just. So I could smack him in the back of the head when he sends a message out during the game. About the streak being over at, of course, what happens within five minutes is when you get to chase, Klay Pull Fund Wada Bounds that if it goes one more yard. Touch back. So yeah. So I, luckily, I didn't have to do that. The streak is over the good streak continues and Stuff to talk about here, there a lot to digest in this game indeed, John amp at the dollar on the tip jar. We appreciate that Shawn for the support and everyone that gives us any type of donation. We always thank you very much. I make sure that while we have everyone's attention at the beginning of the show if you haven't voted on audio platforms, just do so wherever you get your audio spotify, I tunes, Google play stitcher anchor even Pandora Free Pandora you can find behind the curtains podcast. They're just follow us. You don't miss a thing because there's so much more than just our youtube shows but here we are live on Youtube Post Game Twenty Eight, twenty one and I said that this game the score is not really indicative of the actual game itself. A couple notes just to throw that out there you know a lot of people said leading up to this game. There's no way. This is going to be able to get into Shawn Watson like they did Jeff Driscoll for seven sacks and we to. Five Zach's later in. It's a different story I. think it was five sacks, twelve quarterback hits. I'll double check on those dads in a second when we hit the box score but ultimately aids they got to Deshaun Watson when it mattered most and how about this they surrender twenty one points. In the first half you heard correctly zero points in the second half what a turnaround I labeled this in my game recap as the tale of two halves, it truly was especially defensively. Brian Anthony Davis will start with you what was the biggest change the defense from the first half of the second half of your opinion. You know what? I thought the secondary tightened down a whole lot more and I was thrilled with that. But they never stopped flying around the ball. They never stopped flying past that Texans. Offensive Line and they were able to get to Shawn Watson and finish him which they I mean they got to him the first the first half but they couldn't really finish them and they put the clamps on where he wasn't comfortable anymore in the secondary help with that too. Good points Dave what do you think defensive turnaround the second half was huge. What what do you give him credit to? I still don't know I. gotTa go back, check check it out. I mean I. I. do think that they did a good job of. Of getting the pressure on Watson to make him have not be comfortable. Honestly do you know what the biggest thing I attributed to? Why were the Texas still trying to run the ball? Exactly what is the world? Were they doing I? Mean they were they're having their way with the past and they kept. They kept trying to run the ball and I'm like. They WANNA do run two yard loss, run no gain third and long. And then trust the you know even though they were converting some of those third lungs and they think they're just gonNA run run long long conversion to hallway down the field is not gonNA work that way. So I attribute some of that to. Not only. Of course Texas chose to do that but the steelers did a fantastic job stopping the run. You took the words right out of my mouth in terms of the the Texans coaching staff, an offense play calling not doing their offense, any favors in this game the steelers are not going to be an easy team to run on. It's GonNa make next week's matchup even more legitimate in my opinion, we'll talk about that on Thursday and throughout the week. But guys I want to ask you this about your confidence levels to the steelers score James Connor from twelve yards out plunges into the end zone gives the steelers twenty eight to twenty one, twenty, six to twenty one lead to go for to get it to Juju Twenty eight twenty one they're up a touchdown. How confident were you in the defense even though they had stymied the Texans entire second half I kept on thinking about the fifty seconds. It took for them to score at the end of the first half and I'm thinking Oh my gosh. This is setting up for disaster because what a danger say they kept on trying to run the ball when you're down twenty-eight, twenty one with not much time on the clock, you're going to be throwing it to get back in the defense to Talbot Brian. What was your confidence level in the steelers defense in that situation? I actually felt really good about it. Of course, I was cautiously optimistic but I felt good because you know that there's not going to be a surprise with handing off to David Johnson you know that they're passing and they can get back into that defense a little bit more with not worrying about having to be crossed up but I knew the way they were flying to Watson. The I knew the way they were getting the Watson that they weren't going to have a problem I felt really good in you know I, didn't feel good about this game for a long time. You Dave you on my side or Brian side in turns your confidence level in the defense or the end. I? I've really didn't have. That much confidence. I. Have to admit because. It just took the play. It really did I just took the one play but. You just never knew because they'd gotten gotten so much ever since that at that interception changed everything yet right there just seem like even though they only had it for a little bit after that that the game just seemed different from that point. The steelers defense I'd love to see loved to go back and look at this. It seemed like in the second half especially, they won on first down a lot and they were giving negative plays on first down whether it was think about. The the reverse to Brandin cooks that TJ. Watt blows up in the backfield. The T. J. Watt sack I keep on saying TJ Watson. He had a great game played a great game. I thought he was still being held a ridiculous amount, but we're not gonNA go talk about the non flags that could have been called in this game so. I want to bring up a comment here our contributor of ours Jeffrey. Benedict. Who has his own show on Wednesday night with? Michael back up this comment on the screen he says Randy Lane when to for to enforce downs don't WanNa hear bad talking about randy feeding her this week he actually went for it off I can still talk about Randy Feeder Jeffrey because the decision to go for a is probably not his be he does doubt the correct clay I still don't like how this offense especially in the second quarter goes through these lulls where they absolutely look like they have never played the game together before and then all of a sudden it goes it turns back into this systematic run pass I'm sorry Dave corrected me on twitter run run pass punt. That's That's my nephew. Who came up with that you called it my big BRASCO put that in knee jerk last week is our peeping. Okay run run past put. So yeah. So I thought that the second half play call play Klein was a lot better and the result of it they lean on their run a little bit more. They actually committed to running the football. They were finding runs at work but Brian, what was the key for you in terms of Randy land? Are you on Jeffrey Benedict side the we should not abuse him so much this week or do you think that he's still deserves some abuse? Blind Squirrel gets. A nut every once in a while boys that's all I've gotten to stay on that. You know I'm not ready to vindicate him just yet. You know I mean I like the fact that they they went for it. Those were situations where you really have to go for it. I'm going forward in that situation already defending his decision because that's what you've gotta do I thought those were actually no brainers in that in those situations. So you know I thought he called a much better football game this week and I'll say that, but I'm not ready to go ahead just like I'm not ready to jump off of Somebody's bandwagon after a rough week one week two which I did with James Connor in week one and I'm sorry I apologize for that but you gotta be careful I was telling my nephew who he's four just turned fourteen and he's he's playing fantasy football this year and he was ready to cut Guys and defenses after week one I'm like you can't do that. You've got to give him time to get in so but I'm not ready just after what I thought was a pretty fantastically called game him. I'm not ready to go. And Stop the presses and say, all right. He's great. Now he's my boy because I can't because I thought a run in a situation. Where they have second long with a really bad call as well. So. You Know Randy. You did good by soda this week but after that you've got approved anymore. So we'll take another step on a relationship next week after the Tennessee game and we'll monitor it from their. Dave Thoughts on Randi, Feeder Aka Randy land. They moved the ball on the opening drive. It didn't seem like the same old same old for that. It just seemed like the same old same old the next two drives after that although one of them was. Taken a deep shot. You know two out of three passes when they were they were deep. The field position was killing them in the first half to start the game and that's I think part of the reason. I got down. I didn't honestly. I didn't think it was that bad like I say I don't know how much he actually calls. It played a play other than just having you know the plan set out and Ben's making spent. When did they do best when run the hurry up and WHO's calling the place for the most partner area? then. Wrought show. So obviously, it's going to take another viewing for me to try to figure that out but. I'm not. He's not on my losers list this week Jefferson argument. No I would I didn't didn't put him on my losers list for the upcoming article we'll talk about it. Let's dive into some grades is look at the box score and let's let's go play by player and we'll start off with the most important player for the steelers. In my opinion he is these Straw stirs the steelers drink. That's Ben Rothlisberger number seven. Yeah. I can't stand that guy anyways. Words Jersey. He's tw- you went twenty three for thirty, six, two, hundred, thirty, seven, yard six, point six, average two touchdowns zero interceptions even sack two times Matt Firewood got burnt bad on one of those oil with a one zero. One point three rating I believe this is the first time maybe the season that he's gone over one hundred for a rating guys let's Great Big Ben after week three, we'll start with Davis, I'm good, Dave. I will tell you this his overall rating but going into this game was a one of seven case he must've. Good so but yeah, I. Like I said not a big fan of the to back to back deep shots that weren't really close when you're in your own end zone. But. I can't say too much terrible about it. The things things were done well, when the IT still the accuracy at times, you're just not sure about but that at times it's while he made that throw. So it's I think we're we're starting to see a little bit more play to play. Ben Rothlisberger consistency. So I I thought he did fantastic I'd. I'd give him A. A minus all right okay Brian. I'm. Giving them a B.. I thought some of his balls were were behind some receivers in some spots but I thought he had a really good game and there's nothing wrong with the be in the situation of course, when Ben Talk spends going to give himself a a C. minus probably as well because that's that's the Shucks ben that were growing to know in two, thousand and twenty, but I really liked his. Performance I think he's getting better week to week but I was thinking about something that we talk about the other day. When does Ben Shake the rust off and my answer was pretty much around the start of the fourth quarter and I'm sitting there watching the game and I'm thinking around the fourth quarter I'm like, no I think the rest is off I think we've been now pre season's over fans. Ben Rothlisberger, I'm giving him an A. Because has myself. What did he do? That was wrong. He didn't turn the ball over I thought he played we obviously played well enough to win. Through two touchdowns. Day didn't require him to throw for four hundred dollars especially in the second half when they were running the ball effectively I guess my question is you outside the errant throws deep where'd you could definitely tell I would rather him overthrow on a deep balls then under throw obviously but I thought he played a great football game in light something Dave said a couple of weeks ago might have been last week where he said if this is what we're going to be getting from Ben Rothlisberger meaning this is the new Ben and he's completely fine with it and I agree a hundred percent. If this is the type of play that the steelers fans should come to get used to Ben Rothlisberger. Why wouldn't you be happy with that? Why wouldn't you be ecstatic with the fact that he's not turning the ball over he seems like he's making good decisions he's managing the game beautifully he's not doing anything to hurt the team. This is something he said in his press conference on Wednesday, which was sometimes this defense a punt is not a bad thing. I like the way that his game is progressing. You know in his his passing hair. As, day taking every single game in my opinion I thought he threw the ball will. While today and more zip on the ball than needed last week against Denver. I. Give Him a solid eight. The only thing that will get an eight plus is I don't know he connected on couple of this deep balls maybe but I thought he played great game I thought he played a great game I wouldn't be upset with that all. Let's talk about quickly offense of line we we typically breezy over the office of line and skill. Position? Great, the offensive line at any player that data did not stand out to you Brian we'll start with you. Okay. I'm going to jump ahead here in I'm GonNa say it right now my game ball goes to stop the presses. For I need. Eating crow like crazy today to serve Woma I love you baby great game. Here's the thing man Jj Watt was not even in the Backfield as far as he did not real- come close to Ben Rothlisberger. No Watkins did and that was filers guy. So if I'm answering this question, I thought feiler was suspect once again I there was there was a sack I think the the broadcast team attributed to Villanueva I didn't think it was Villanova. It was more filer I. believe that was the Watkins sack, but the offensive line did really well but knowing that you have Chuka Luma number seventy six on Jj Watt, and he's holding them at bay. That's where you get my game ball. So congratulations. You've made the bad club. Dave your office, what Lineman Nino, the game and that. Very well. How would you grade the steelers their line? It's hard to give them all the same grade. Get him again, a good grade. No I'm just saying to give all of them the same grade blood I heard of it, but did well and part of them did not well, obviously Brian was Brian was high on szucs. To. who were you not high on miss game it was not high on on filer gave up that one bad sack, the other sack of what happened was the player you know basically stunted around and filer blocked his guy independently and then pounds. So the Guy Pounds he was engaged with was able to come around and go get the sack because they basically. Ran. The stunt. I. Don't know if it was designed stunt or just the way it ran out and that and he got a free break in their on Ben as well. Yeah just I didn't focus a much as much during the game I could last week when I was. Checking the right side of the line because it was such a big deal but everything that I saw was Chook Chook did great. I loved I didn't watch the Castro, a lot of the place except for the place where he was pulling and see him getting out there in front that was really nice to see again and Look at. They got another one hundred yard rusher again, team in the NFL. That's done it in every game at one hundred yard rusher. So there, there's plenty of room for improvement from some places and some people but overall I'll. I'll say I'll say, I'll give you offensive line. I'll give them a B minus because I did like what I saw more with the with the with the rush block blocking. Yeah. I. Thought I was going to give him a B plus I loved how you know even feiler for maybe how he didn't have the best game in pass blocking. He was one of the guys out there leading the way for Connor in this game running the game running the ball we'll get to running back second was not like the previous two with a rush over one hundred everyone's like Oh. Yeah. Oh yeah they rushed for one hundred bud forty plus of that game on Connor's one Kerry. Oh Benny Snell rushed for one hundred in week one, blood thirty some of those games. This was not one of those games they ran the ball. Well, I thought the whole game. They were always getting positive yardage that's a credit to the offensive line. They're starting to get comfortable with some of those motions. You could see those Nat Canada motions prior to the snap freezing. That edge rusher it's working. It's GonNa. Take. Some time is ABC, plus for the offensive line the only thing that kept him off a was the fact they gave up two sacks and looked a little bit questionable in some certain situations. But let's talk about this running game in maybe the running back by committee that is slowly developing James Connor Russia's eighteen times for one hundred and nine yards averaging six point one, a clint anti shown with a long of twenty five. Good Dave for James Connor Anthony McFarland. ANTIBAC- he gets six carries for forty two yards. It's easy math for a seven yard average along of twenty early in the game then he smell seven carries eleven yards with a stinker of one point six, four yard long guys, I wanNA know your grading the run it the running backs. But also I wanNA know your grading in terms of your thoughts on if this is going to turn into a running back by committee or how they're gonNA utilize these three main bags moving four Brian we'll start with you. So I just I just tried to Sky Matt filer Matt filer had some good run blocking stunts. He actually had that when he was pulling on the one long run in the first half I thought it was really good. I thought the run blocking was fantastic for these guys McFarland I I kind of predicted that that he was going to get more of a role this week in one of the reasons that he was featured a whole lot more. Because Benny Snow did fumble twice in the first two weeks. It's nice to see that they just didn't drop him like a bad habit. So they gave me Snell some opportunities as well. You know. Benny. Style junior you did not have a good average. We've seen him do well before, but he needs to remain confident. He could be valuable for the team as well. James Connor is the bell cow. There's no snow cow there's no aunt mad cow. There it is. James Connor however they're going to realize that they need to give them a break and that's what they did today in. They threw that out there. They saw this change of pace with a Anthony McFarland and the change of pace with Benny Snow junior could benefit and make James Connor stronger towards the end of the game and that's what they did. So I think this is GonNa get closer. The Division of Labor is going to change a little bit. It's going to get closer to a running back by committee. It's not going to be true just yet. You're still going to see so much more. Of James Connor but those guys are going to get there carries to and it's not gonNa Affect Connor. It's GonNa make him better. David your thoughts on the running backs. Remember Benny Snell got one more carried anthony. Did. Now I don't know that that's going to be the case going forward. It could specifically be that there was something that they saw. With the Texans defense that they thought with the speed of McFarland and you know maybe outside run or just the runs to the ad in general off tackle or or or however was that they that they did that. That's why they they actually use them. I didn't know if we're going to have an activist game 'cause I. Mean He didn't even get a snap last week. So the fact that he got in there and got a couple of carries I thought was great and then he did well with what he had I still don't think it was wise to have. To have him in there on that one third down. That's not really what they were. They're built to do use the guys the way that they're that they're. To their strength, but it's going to be the James Connor show but I liked it. They're going to spell him. So let me go back added up here real quick. So with con with eighteen Russia's how many total Russia's did they end up having let's not count the kneel downs because Ben had four of them So technically with Ben Having, one rush that said they had thirty four and connor had eighteen of them. So he got just over fifty percent of the Rushes County Dante Johnson counting Ben Rothlisberger not than downs though and and I'm okay with that I'm all right with that I think he's going to get the majority but all in all I thought they did a great job. Yeah and I'll say seven ninety nine of Alsi does for. He's one of our blokes from down under he gives eases also the split between the past and the run was more even on the last drive more even in general my Gosh I mean, you just said the number Dave, they threw the ball. Thirty two temps thirty. No. Sorry. It was thirty six times, right? Yes. Thirty six attempts to. Draw, back and think about it. He dropped back to pass and ran for one and then he got sacked twice. So technically focused that thirty they'll call it thirty eight past plays pretty darned balanced though as darned balanced. I liked that a lot and so for me, I look at this running back by committee and say you talk about confidence booster fourth quarter game on the line who was the running back they're getting the carries they put Benny Snell in there. I. Mean if Mike Tomlin does not have confidence in you, he is not putting you in that position. Period at all he is a coach he will. He'll tell you this a million times he coaches on confidence and if he if he doesn't trust you to make the plays, he's not putting you in there. So I guarantee you if he will being honest, he would say he put any snow on there because he knew the importance of the situation he knew. How it would impact his confidence moving forward. He can't have him carrying the football thinking he's going to fumble, and so I give the running backs I'll give them a solid B plus I thought that Jalen. Samuels. I'm not I. Just don't know what they're doing with him to be honest with you if Anthony Mcfarland, can bring you a little bit of. A spark then why why even have jalen Samuels unless he's a special teams I've never seen him that much on special teams silent I don't see him in that situation but Anthony McFarland provides a spark i. don't think Jalen ever is a spark. You know. So it'll be interesting to see how they played that up to say something about that. Yeah, go. You put Anthony. McFarland how'd you throw him the ball when he drops it that's not something you're going to jail angels as much. No. But you're also not gonNA see Jalen Samuels with a glimmer a daylight break free for a twenty yard run. That's when you bring Jalen Samuels is when you bring in a running back making them think it's going to be that you might run and you're gonNA put him out wide. So let me ask you this danger the numbers guys you think they're going to dress for running backs for the rest of the season injury with fifty eight or sorry with forty eight active players they they did five sometime last year. They had one which is five if you're including the fullback this year. So it's not out of the question. Yeah I think they will. Okay. All right. Let's continue with the offense as we move down to the receiving core. This was a fun one to look at seven different receivers I. Believe I kinda correctly had a reception in this contest. Juju Smith Schuster leads the team with four catches for forty three yards ten point nine average one touchdown in along the twenty, six, five targets, James Connor for. For forty yards I really wish he would got that one on the sideline he was targeted five times. That was that was A. Ball is thrown hard. It's tough catch Eric Brown with four catches thirty eight yards he hits catered for the first time. steeler five catches fifty two. Hill Hebron. I have four for thirty eight on the ESPN box I'm on Yahoo. They have fifty two. Maybe, you're right James Washington five catches for thirty six vans McDonald three for thirty five Klay Pool One. For Twenty four in then aunt McFarland one for seven. So guys receiving core and that includes tight ends. What were your thoughts Brian will start with you I'm pretty happy the receivers. Yeah. There's some drops in. You've got some players in here but they stepped up when they needed to step up the division of Labor. Was There Ben has weapons all over the field and you're GONNA you're GonNa get your throat slit Dublin one guy 'cause the other one's going to get you. This is the kind of team though this is the kind of Receiving core that can handle the fact that the leading receiver in a win has forty eight yards. We did not have that two years ago Juju Smith Schuster is fine with his touchdown and his forty eight yards that works for him because the other guys are scoring to you, I. Gosh. You almost. So Chase Klay Pool score that was an almost another touchdown pass for Ben Rothlisberger. You almost. He's You would have seen more from deontay Johnson, and this is what makes these guys special right now, Deontay Johnson goes out with a concussion in the first half and you don't worry about it in that game because you know what James Washington's going to do. You know what and Vance McDonald we're going to do for you McDonald was still a very big part of this offense too. So you know that James Connors going catch the balls. Backfield and yet and yet trust in the rookie Annia trusting the veteran and it's really weird call him the veteran but you trust, Juju? So Ben Rothlisberger is GonNa find these guys. This is becoming the strength of your team, but they're also helping out the running game as well. It's becoming a balanced offense as we get down the road a few more weeks that offense is going actually get a whole lot stronger as well. Dave on the receiving core. Yeah. Like Brian said I kind of like the whole notion that Oh, you're not having one hundred yard receiver. Big Whoop. Receivers contribute and like you said, no catches for Deontay Johnson because he got injured. So early and he got injured on the other the only other place that he got credit for, which was that around which what do you think have been Rothlisberger Block Oh, that would. Just, dive at his leg. Yes exactly. But I liked that he was out there and willing to to go for it. That was just one of those free plays where Johnson was. Caught from behind which kind of made him stumble forward and into the guy with his head. So hopefully, he'll be all right there but it it didn't matter the rest of the guys stepped up. There were some drops. But they weren't great. You know perfectly thrown balls either like the one to James. Washington was somewhat behind him but he's still should come down with it today catch you. Now that's that's that's the thing. So all in all I'm happy with the way the receivers are going and it doesn't have to be one guy just completely busted looks. Let me ask you a question. I'm going to give the receiving core because the drops pretty standard Do you think there's any correlation with the fact that the steelers offense started to kind of move the ball a little bit more when Chase Klay Pool played a little bit more and you know he was he was on the field more in the second half. I feel like him just his presence of being that deep threat changes the way the the defense has to play the steelers offense day. Do you think there's any validity to that? Yeah. I mean when you got that threat third. Player that makes you have to look and do something different on defense. That's. Even. If he's not the one being targeted, that's a good thing and remember he he drew that big. Pass interference on fourth down which What your thoughts of? That was very todd Haley like going deep on a on a fourth and one or so that you think is well, they were selling out to stop the they were selling to stop the run was area call it. He got flushed out of the pocket a look like if he would have led klay pool meaning instead of throwing behind any by the gone for a big play but at the same time yeah. I. Don't know I talk about on the deep one. Thought. I was talking about the judicial entire nevermind now. So Brian would've by think there's a correlation between clay pool playing more and the offense kind of getting started. Absolutely this guy, this guy is going to be Ben's number one receiver the way PLAXICO burress was his rookie year I you still had hines ward and hines ward was so valuable to his rookie years well, but he trusted Plaxico so much. He loves that big guy he's got it back all these years later, and you really think that this is going to change the minds of defensive coordinator is when they see number eleven coming out there they're going to get scared and they've got a play a different kind of game. It's GonNa be interesting to see how this unfolds in how they handle the receiving core because we always said this, Dave, put it. Best. He said if you can. If you have one injury with the receivers, you're fine to injuries now you're in trouble. So deontay Johnson goes out Juju Smith, Schuster Chase Klay Poll and James Washington where your top three and they did find Washington had more looks than you would have had klay pull the same. They even throw Ray McLeod and we'll talk about him special teams here. In, a little bit speaking of which are Youtube stick with us. We're not going anywhere if you're listening in audio platform. Weren't take a quick break. 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Let's Ride: A deep dive into the perimeter of the Steelers' lineup

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Let's Ride: A deep dive into the perimeter of the Steelers' lineup

"Pittsburgh steeler fans. Welcome back another episode right. Jeff harvard. your host of this monday wednesday. Friday morning podcast. I hope you had a great weekend in. I really hope that you are prepared to be at the midway point. We are this week. We will be at the midway point in the month of april which means that. We are so so close to in my opinion the crowning gem of the nfl offseason. That is the nfl draft. We are on the cusp of the nfl draft. And we're going to get you ready like we always do like no one else. Can at both behind the steel curtain dot com in on our audio platform on my show. Let's ride monday. Wednesday and friday before we get started as i always do behind the steel curtain dot com should be your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers. It is a part of espy nation. Which is a part of fox media. They're one of thirty two. Nfl websites we cover the pittsburgh steelers as you know and obviously the podcast platform is an extension of behind the steel curtain dot com. But wherever you get your podcasts or steelers or behind this curtain subscribe followed wherever you have to do so that you don't miss a thing now last week on monday. I did something that i hadn't done before. And i decided i was going to start breaking down specific position groups leading up to the draft talking about the personnel. That's on the team analyzing those personnel and nc saying when they go into the draft. Should this be draftable position. If so when if not why and i started last week in the trenches the offensive line and defensive line in this weekend bouncing it out to the perimeter. I don't have a lot of shows before the nfl draft so we had to get this stuff done so in the first segment. I'm going to be talking about wide. Receivers and tight ends in the second segment. we're gonna talk about cornerbacks and safeties. There are a lot of intriguing positions. A lot of intriguing players and a lot has changed with a spa wednesday. All but some of these positions just this offseason. So when you're looking at these positions you have to look at the personnel. You have and you have to try to figure out. Not only are they going to draft a tight end or a position like that but or they're tight ends available that are worth it. That's the big question We always say this. We talked about this at length on the steelers preview. Last week myself. Dave scorpion and brian. Anthony davis where we talked about. How you just don't want to draft by position when you feel like you are stuck in a position one. Two three position only option draft. That's a horrible situation to be in so in that regard i couldn't i can't stress enough. How just go by positions just not the way to go into the nfl draft. Let's let's figure this out position by position. We start on the offensive side of the ball. And let's start with the wide receivers here the personnel that the wide receivers the wide receiver core that the steelers have right now heading into twenty twenty one. Juju smith schuster diontae johnson. James washington chase claypool. I feel at this point. Those are household. Names will throw ray ray mcleod. Who signed a one year. Deal to stay with pittsburgh he obviously. Maybe i say maybe matt. Canada has a specific purpose for him outside of being a return specialists. Then we have some new faces yet. Anthony johnson Played at buffalo Matthew sexton who was the very fast wide receiver who was picked. He plays him spring ball Last year tyler. Simmons was the former georgia product. Who was at the georgia pro day. This year He he was one of the. I feel like there's hundreds hundreds of athletes. Football players would have been in a system that would have gotten a legit shot to make a roster but because of covid because of the cancellation of things like preseason games in no offseason workouts and things like that he was back at a college pro day and he graduated two years ago It's up. he impressed. That kevin colbert said to give them a contracts a he's on the roster and then cody white is also on the roster so the wide receiver. A lot of people make some assumptions with the steelers when it comes to the wide receiver position. One of them is that they're always going to draft a receiver and the second is that there are always going to draft a really good receiver. And i think those are safe assumptions. That people make when talking about the pittsburgh steelers entering the nfl draft. And i understand why they make them. They make that assumption because they typically are very successful trafton receivers everyone but raye mcleod. That i said is returning from last season. They were drafted by the steelers. Juju was a second round pick. Deontay was a third. james washington was the second round. Pick chase claypool. The second round pick this team knows how to draft receivers. I could go further down the line in some of the players that they drafted that have been extremely successful. Might not be the long term but extremely successful antonio brown mike wallace martavis bryant even plaxico burress Was was drafted by the i. Think about some of those names and the assumptions are real. But here's what we have to figure out when we look at the wide receiver position is this. Is this a draft pick priority. I guess that's the best way to put. It is the wide receiver position a draft. Pick priority in my answer. That is no it is not a priority. It is not a position that the steelers should be looking at the draft and saying who's going to be available. What can we do. Have we get this player that player. Whatever no i don't think that is it all the next question. All the flow chart and i talked about the flow chart last monday. If you follow the flow chart of the answer is no then. The next question is do. They even draft a position at all. Now this is where i say that. Yes they do draft a wide receiver. I think they will draft a wide receiver. But i don't think it should be early. And when i say early i'm talking day one day two. I don't think that they should draft a receiver in rounds. One two or three after that. If you find a receiver that you think is talented enough. That could add to the position. Then i think you look at it and you say we could really use some death not only for purposes but the steelers especially at wide receiver always plan for the future. And when you look at the depth chart right now entering twenty twenty one before the draft you have to assume that juju smith schuster although he signed that one year. Deal eight million dollars to stay in pittsburgh that he and james washington washington is entering the final year of his rookie contract. That they're not going to be back next year. You have to assume that instead of those players are gone. Now you're left with. Let's also forget. Not forget that ray ray mcleod is on a one year deal. So if juju james washington railway macleod are all gone after twenty twenty one dailies diontae johnson and chase claypool. Did so when you put it that way. When you look at the depth chart to me it becomes increasingly clear that the steelers are going to have to think about drafting a wide receiver at some point again. I don't want it to be early. I really don't want them to spend a second or third round pick on abel's receiver but it in the fourth round. If there's a player that they think is going to be a really good player in i again. I trust them at this position. I don't trust them. Drafting every position. But i do trust them. Drafting wide receivers. In because of that. I say that they do draft a wide receiver but again not early. You have to assume some of those players are going to be gone. And when they're gone if it's just claypool in johnson that's a pretty bare cupboard and diontae johnson and twenty twenty two will be going to his final year of his rookie deal so the steelers have done a good job of selecting really good receivers in consecutive drafts. Eventually it's going to come to the point where they'd have to keep that up because they're gonna find time with the receivers are gonna go elsewhere unless they're gonna sign some a second contract. I don't see them signing james washington. Maybe they get juju back. But i'm not sure if that happens that that means that you tell you the more i talk about it the more. I'm kind of convincing myself. That this team is gonna have to draft a wide receiver it. They're going to have to look at the wide receiver position. They have two very very important. Okay so let's look at the other position that we wanted to talk about on the offensive side of the ball and that's titan. Let's go through the The personnel that they have on the team right now with eric. Ebron zach gentry. Kevin rader dax. Raymond spent some time with the steelers in the past and charles jones. Now this is one of those positions. I talked about at the very beginning of the show that there are a couple of positions that they the outlook on this position has changed in the offseason. This is one of those positions. Vance mcdonald retirement changed a lot. All of a sudden. Eric ebron is the only experience tight end on the roster. This is quite a conundrum for me. Because i do think the tight end is the position that might be needed. The most that no one is really talking about that. Much steeler fans are bringing it up. And they're saying you know candid more tight end. But the conundrum is that the steelers do have anita tight end but this draft class for tight ends is just not that you have kyle pitts. Who is amazing. I mean this this kid is i think he's a transcendent player. He can elevate any offense that he goes into. He's going to be a top ten pick. If he's outside the top ten. I will be stunned. I mean absolutely stunned. If kyle pits gets into the double digits. Don't think it's going to happen. But when you look at the steelers tight end group. I mean eric. Ebron has proven that he can provide some value. Some worth zach. Gentry is provide proven. Nothing kevin. Rader played well when he got an opportunity especially especially on special teams last season. Dax raymond in charles jones have proven nothing either. So let's go through the flow chart. Do they draft a tight end. I say yes. They do have to draft a tight end but early. No i don't think it's b. It's i don't think it's because of teen needed. There's some people that say all draft. I think it's freer avenues. As in the penn state tight end firm freer maze fear move. I'm sorry butchered. It don't care really don't care. They call him baby gronk. I'm not seeing that. I've watched film on him. I don't think i've thrown out that comparison yet but still even with the player like that. I just don't see out of outside of pets. It's just not a good tight end class ins. Oh you're looking at the steelers team needs and you're looking at the draft class and you're thinking there is a big disparity here. This is not normal. When you're looking at this you're thinking okay this dealers. Do these team needs. But the draft is not really coinciding with those team needs so draft. Pick follow the flow chart. Should they draft this position early. No they shouldn't and it's not because the need isn't there. It's because i don't think this class is good enough to think about drafting a player early. Maybe they get a tight end in the mid rounds but they only have so many draft picks and they have a lot of team needs. I could definitely see the steelers. Not drafting a titan. Maybe they get a seventh rounder or an undrafted player. But i could see them. Legitimately going into this season with eric ebron tight end gentry and kevin raider as their tight ends for the regular season and raider proved value on special teams. I think he's more of a traditional blocking back. It also comes down to the fact. Let's also not forget whether we're talking about receivers whether talking about tight ends any offense and position group. It could be the offensive line that we talked about last monday. We don't know what mad canada's offense is going to look like. Does he run a lot. Eleven personnel does. He run a lot of two tight end sets and let's also not forget here when since we're talking about tight ends that when matt canada was at nc state jalen samuels there in jalen. Samuels was basically a tight end. He was essentially a tight end in mad. Canada's offense so keep that in your back pocket. okay. I'm not saying they're gonna use jalen samuels more of an h. Back tight end tight player that he wasn't college but if they don't draft tight end. I want the steeler fans to remember. What jeff did say that matt. Canada has used jalen sales in a different way. Don't be shocked if that might be the thought process with the steelers. And if they do that if they keep jalen samuels around and they want him to be more of an h. Back or more of a tight end with any. Could maybe see gentry raider. Only one of those two making the team. They go into the season with two tight ends in samuels as their third and suddenly the tight end group looks a lot different. So when you're thinking about all of these offense physician groups. I've said it before i'll say it again. Say a million times before the draft. We don't know what matt candidates system is going to entail. We don't know what kind of players he's gonna want at specific positions. We can do nothing speculate. But fact shows that. When canada was nc state with samuel's he utilized samuels very very well and in a unique way he could be thinking the same exact thing heading into twenty twenty one so in terms of wide receivers circle back. And let's talk about this before. I break in terms of wide receivers. I think that they do draft a receiver. But it's not a high priority. I think that they want to add to their depth either looking it. Maybe a mid to late round draft pick at a receiver in honestly if they do that. I still would have high hopes for that. Receiver based on. How the steelers history with drafting wide receivers wide receiver factory. So if they're able to actually get a receiver later in the draft. I have would have high expectations. That player no doubt about it at tight end. There is definitely a need for the position. I just don't like this draft class. i don't like it at all and keep in mind. The jalen samuels might be the wild card in this equation. When you're talking about tight end matt. Canada might have plans they might be able to sit back and say we don't need to look at tight end because this is we're going to do things is what we're gonna utilize him and he can be a flex player. He can play both running back anti dan. We know. Mike tomlin loves his versatility. We know it it at every single position the more you can do the better chance you have of actually making an impact. We know that is all right. So that's gonna be it for the offense. Let's talk about defense when we come back after this break we're gonna talk about cornerbacks and safeties one of those position. Groups changed a ton it just the past month right back at women is support for this episode comes from locker room the app. That's changing the way we talk. Sports locker room is a sports fans. Dream come true. It's a live audio platform that lets you connect with other fans experts. And even the athletes themselves locker room makes it easy to start your own conversations. Talk about the latest rumors takes news and teams you care about most join massive watch parties for all of your friends to react together real time as you celebrate a buzzer beater or suffer the agony of a crucial bricks. Free throw. and if you've got a bunch of supremely spicy takes you to fire off during luck you can even record the conversations if you want and released them as a podcast. So it's time to start thinking about catchy titles it's all totally free and available at the. Irs door right now so go. Download it today. Locker room changing the way we talk sports All right pittsburgh few events welcome back to the second segment of what's right. I'm jeff harvey your host on this monday wednesday friday morning podcast a quick reminder that this goes up at five. Am eastern time. Every monday wednesday. Friday i have had a lot of people on twitter. You can follow me on twitter at j hartman underscore. It sending messages and say jeff. I'm on pandora. Where's where's the. Let's ride episode. They'll send me screenshots and like look i. I don't know if we have an outlet that we put our audio and two and then that outlet pushes it out to all the other outlets so we only do so much on our end. I can tell you that it will eventually be there. But i know that i'm a spotify user and for me Spotify pretty quick. It's normally up there if it's on up by five o'clock right when it publishes it's only five fifteen five thirty and it is. They're ready to listen to so. Make sure you check all that out. I do want to also mention there. Tuesday at seven thirty pm eastern time. If you're an ios user if you're an apple user whether it's a tablet whether it's a cell phone you can get the app. The locker room app the locker room app. The little icon is a reddish orange and has a tube sock it. Looks like a little stock in case you're trying to figure out which one it is. It is a completely free app for ios users. Download that app and on tuesdays at seven thirty pm eastern time. I go live to answer questions from steeler fans and it's been reloaded fun and you can follow me on locker room at j. underscore. It has been a blast talking with steeler fans. Last week we had some great discussion about the running game is at the offensive line. Is it the running backs really really good stuff and so i hope that you check it out and if you're someone that does listen to my podcast monday wednesday and friday in. I know i know for a fact. There's people that join every tuesday. And they are there in the law there in the room as they call it on locker room and they never talk they never talk. Come on guys and gals. If you're gonna be there live with at least show up and just say even you just say. Hey jeff i just wanted to say love the show of questioner or go steelers. That would be fine. I love to talk with the fans of the show fans of the steelers. So make sure you do that. That's tuesday seven thirty. Pm eastern time on the locker room app again just for ios users right now. Hopefully that's going to change to android as well sooner rather than later. But let's talk about the next position. Groups were on the defensive side again. The perimeter. so we're talking about cornerbacks and safeties. Let's start with cornerbacks. This is a position group that has changed a ton in the last few months and it it went in my opinion from such a strength that i would have put the steelers cornerbacks up there amongst the best in the nfl. And i. I've saying that in one hundred percent honesty. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not joking around because it's so rare that heck go back to even when bill kaur was. The coach wants rod woodson left. It just seemed like they had the. Okay here's the next guy. That's going to be cornerback. Whether it's chad scott wayne washington dion figures. And then when tomlin comes in it's brian. Mcfadden is the shade towns. And it's i taylor. I could continue on with antoine blake. Cortes keenan lewis. They've had a ton of cornerbacks. But for the first time in a really long time i felt that the cornerback room was a strength for the steelers. Maybe not so much anymore. Let's look at the personnel. Joe hayden justin lane. James pierre cam sutton and then to new name steven denmark and trevor williams. Those are your cornerback in denmark. That's actually listed as a defensive back not just a cornerback. Meaning he could possibly flex to safety if need be so when you just look at the corner number one. They don't have a lot on the roster. They don't have a lot of the roster so is it a draft pick priority after losing hilton free agency of the cincinnati bengals and after the release of steven nelson. Yes yes and yes steven nelson wasn't was still on the roster steven nelson did not leave or was released as i release was granted his release. Then i absolutely would say that. This is not a priority but because his because his departure will put it out and obviously dismissal his departure because it his departure now of numb his aim. This is absolutely a priority. And it's scary. Because i said that. I trust the steelers drafted receivers for his every ounce of that. Trust them drafting receivers. Every ounce of me does not trust them. Drafting a cornerback. So should this be a priority. Yes let's follow the flow chart. Should it be an early priority. Yes yes it should. This is a position that a lot of fans are kind of glossing over there. Will they signed cam sutton okay. That's great. I'm glad that they signed camp sutton versatility as a weapon that they haven't really unleashed yet in his time in pittsburgh. I think that he could be a good outside. Cornerback but you can't tell me that their plan is to have hayden sudden as you're outside in then justin lane and james peer as your first guys off the bench who's gonna be the nickelback who's going to be the dime backer. Yes some people might say. The pierre has a lot of potential in. He could be the mike hilton type. I'll take a wait and see approach on that but justin lane if you listened to my show during the season. I'm not a fan. Just not a fan He's he's the one that kinda came after me on twitter. Because i really weekly criticized the play that he had on the field. That just shows me that this kid doesn't have very thick skin and he's also searching his name and stuff because it didn't tag them or anything that's week that's really week stuff anyways. That's neither here nor there. Let's talk about this from a realistic standpoint. Should the steelers take a cornerback in the first round. I wouldn't be upset if they did. I'll put it that way but it has to be a player that is legitimately the best player available. I think we can all agree that when already selected he was not the best player available that you could go back and look at the drafts and say there's no way he was even close to the best player available in. No one would be shocked with that. No one would be shocked but at the same time. If they don't get in the i i think it should be a day one or day two pick. There's a lot of talent in this draft class. There will be cornerbacks available when the steelers pick a twenty four the question remains will there be other positions and other prospects that will say that the steelers will say we would rather have that player this player's gonna make more immediate impact. They are the better player at the time. And that's why they're not gonna cornerback. We'll see we'll see You know you got someone asante samuel junior. He is projected to still be around on twenty four. I'm not so sure if the virginia tech cornerback. I think it's Fraley is going to be around. He has injury issues as well. So there's a lot of question marks both on the steelers and with a cornerback depth chart and also with the nfl draft class. We shall see. I do think this should be a priority. And i do think that it should be an early talking day. One day to pick. We just know we know from experience if they decide to take a cornerback in the mid to late rounds it just rarely ever pans out. It rarely ever pans out. I can't think of the last time that it did pan out. Maybe cam suddenly be. That guy is a fourth round draft. Pick out of tennessee But yeah they are better. The steelers are better. I've said this before. They are better at finding reclamation projects at cornerback. Then they are drafting cornerbacks thing about some of the players. The dave picked up that is turned out. Sometimes they've only played one year in pittsburgh but they've turned that one year into lucrative contracts elsewhere Think it was bryce mccain cody sensabaugh ross cockrel just to name a few just to name a few that they have kind of gotten off the scrap heap. They utilize them well in those players chat cashed in afterwards. So take it for what it's worth but let's recap. I do think that it's a draft. Pick that they need to make. And i do think that it should be early. Okay let's go to safety. The safeties you have the following players minka fitzpatrick terrell admins antoine brooks junior miles killebrew's new free agent acquisition in john. Battle that's it as your safety's Let's go through the whole process like we did with the cornerbacks and the wide receivers tight ends do the steelers view the safety position as a draft pick priority. I'm gonna say no. I'm going to say no because when you have edmonds and you have fitzpatrick you just brought in killebrew. You drafted antoine brooks last year in the sixth round and he did make the team and he did contribute. I just don't think that this is a draft. Pick priority a draft pick priority. Let's make that very very clear. A draft pick priority if it's not a draft pick priority. Let's follow the flow chart. Do they do. They even draft the position at all. Do they even identify it as a team. Need to the point where they need to draft the position at all. I'm going to go with if they are going to make a safety position. Acquisition in the draft. They're going pick them up. I it's going to be late. We're talking day three. Pick or an undrafted player. The reason i say that is i like the steelers de position especially after pink maoz killebrew and let's also not forget that someone like jordan dangerfield is still out there and i wouldn't be shocked if after the draft they bring back jordan dangerfield because he's a player that was a special teams captain player. That knows the defense. He's not going to be asked to have a lot of defensive snaps but he has the experience that if he asked to be thrust into the lineup. he's not gonna completely screwed the pooch he's going to be a guy that can come in fill in nba legitimate depth piece for the steelers and maybe the navy's dangerfield and the goal line situations before they find a niche for him but he's still out there and as long as he's out there. I think the steelers might bring him back and if they bring him back now all of a sudden you're looking at a really good depth chart a really good depth chart. I expect that the steelers will pick up the fifth year option for edmonds and fitzpatrick. And i think that this team is gonna look at the safety position as only if the late rounds there's someone available that they really like or that their high on that they say this player could maybe if they decide to move on from edmonds. Maybe be a really good piece to the puzzle. I'm not sure if there's someone like that out there at that stage of the game but still let's recap this cornerback and safety group. Shall we cornerbacks draft pick priority. Yes after nelson and hilton depart and for whatever reason. It is a priority. Should they drafted early. I said yes day one or day to save a little bit different draft pick priority. No i don't think it's a draft pick priority. Do they drafted it all. Then if they do it's going to be late. It's going to be laid. Wouldn't be shocked. They don't take a safety. Antoine brooks junior or someone that i'm very curious to see and year to really curious some of these players. Let's be honest. I'm excited to see some of these players. Play in the preseason. Because if you think back to last year's of twenty twenty you're talking to only six players. They had no time to get any of warm up games in whatsoever. When the preseason got cancelled anton brooks was a player that really could have benefited from having even if there's just two preseason games they had none and so because of that now this upcoming preseason will be four games three for everyone except for pittsburgh in dallas because they play each other in the hall of fame game anton as a player. I'm going to be keeping a really close eye on. Just like justin lane and james pierre. I'll be keeping a really close eye on them as well because they need the experience they need the repetitions and we will get an opportunity to finally to see what they can do to see if they can actually go out and make plays how will they fit into the defense in. You have to wonder too in. This is just me thinking ahead. You have to wonder what the coaching staff thinks. Yeah they see him at practice. And i know they're scrimmage likes situations but there's nothing that can compare to win proverbial bullets were actually flying and even though these proverbial bullets are not real meaning. It's a preseason game giving them an opportunity to react to something that is outside of their norm. So if anton brooks is in the hall of fame game playing into cowboys he's going against players that he's not familiar with. You're going to get to see how he reads. Reacts plays how he plays the line of scrimmage. I wanna see what he can bring to the defense when he was drafted out of maryland. Talked about antoine brooks junior as a potential player that could play play in the box. Still playing space. But really play the line of scrimmage. Will you know what that's screams to me. Could he not do what mike hilton did. Does i don't know what he's gonna do in cincinnati. Could he not do what. Mike helton did for the steelers mark hillman. Although put in coverage on occasion played the line of scrimmage. He was great and run. Support was great a blessing. The quarterback can anton brooks do that. I don't know one knows. We haven't seen him enough on the field to know if he can. Maybe he is the answer. And that's going to bring this full circle because i talked about canada's offense and suggesting that we don't know what it's going to look like. We don't know what this defensive plan is either. There's some been some moves made already that kinda make you scratch your head you know. I don't know what's miles killed. We're going to do for the defense when he was in detroit with Coach austin he looked different. And i guarantee the terrible austin had a really strong influence on bringing him to pittsburgh. How are they going to deploy him. If it's just a special teams guy. I'm going to be very shocked and surprised. I feel like they have a plan for some of these players. We aren't privy to that information yet but we will be. We will be sooner than later. But i'll tell you what we're going to be getting you ready for behind the steel curtain. Both on the website and the audio side is for this upcoming draft. Some people say that they hate draft. Talk i don't really know i don't get that. I love the draft. I think it's exciting Everyone has so much hope during the nfl draft. Any i've ever won. That's used to watch the draft for all those years can remember the radio city music hall. The new york jets fans. They're booing everybody and booing the picks that's exciting because even the jets as bad as they were at those times and they still are. There's help there's hope to the players. They're taking our the future stars of your favorite team and that's awesome and so we're gonna be getting you ready for that we're gonna have primers. We have mock drafts. we're going to have live mock draft on some of our afternoon. She shows I know that the steelers hangover with Tony and brainy anthony davis they are going to be doing a live mock draft on the air. I know that Dave scofield and his big brother rich. They do something similar. I will not be doing that. But still i'm gonna be getting ready by doing what we have been the last two weeks on mondays. And that's getting ready by looking at the personnel position by position. Should they draft if so when they drafted so be on the lookout behind so curtain dot. Com should be your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers. Make sure you check it early and often as we update the site regularly also rarely get your podcast. That's google play apple podcasts. Itunes stitcher anchor. Pandora you name. It subscribe followed. Whatever you have to do so you don't miss a thing that's it. That wraps up for monday. Show thanks for spending some time with bill. Hopefully i'll see and hear you on tuesday night live on the locker room makes you join me. 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Steelers Injury Report, Week 13 vs. The Washington Football Team: Thursday Update

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Steelers Injury Report, Week 13 vs. The Washington Football Team: Thursday Update

"Support for this. Podcast comes from microsoft teams. Now there are more ways to be a team with microsoft teams. Bring everyone together in a new virtual room. Collaborate live building ideas on the same page and see more of your team on screen at once. Learn more at microsoft dot com slash teams pittsburgh steeler fans. Welcome back yes. it's me jeff hartmann again. The steel curtain dot com coder. Thank you over tuning in first and foremost you. We're giving you a lot of content and not a lot of time because the steelers beat the ravens on wednesday night and now all of a sudden you gotta turn the page quickly and get ready for the washington football team in week. Thirteen sunday. I'm starting monday five pm at heinz field too because it's a monday game. That was pushed back from sunday to monday. Because of the ravens. Steelers getting push-back constantly might tomlin's press conference was thursday. Which is today. I gave you that. Podcast i hope you've got a chance to check it out if not it's about ten to twelve minutes of really the gives you the basic synopsis of what mike tomlin saying during his press conference nonetheless here we are injury report time already. I know already cause injury report. Report practices are going to be thursday friday and then saturday they'll give their final game designation leading into the game on monday. Okay with that with all that out of the way if we are talking hypothetical practices then behind the steel curtain dot. Com has got you covered because the pittsburgh steelers have been having a ton of these reports in. They had one again on thursday. But i about hypotheticals. When i talk about estimated practice reports that means this us did not practice today. They had players day off but if they would have practiced. Here's what it looked like. On thursday december third ben roethlisberger did not practice not or would not have practice. Sh- not a shock not injured related. But they also have a knee listed there I think they're just covering their bases. I don't think it's anything to worry about. Even nelson he missed would have missed the knee. Why well mike tomlin told us thursday. During his press conference that he finished the game on wednesday night net steven nelson did and he was kind of complaining about his knee. A little bit. They're having an mri done thursday. Today we have no idea what that report is the severity of the injury. I don't think it would be like the season ending variety. But you hope it's not a knee injury that he misses. I don't know the rest of the regular season or something like that. You hope everything's okay. And it's just precautionary but he would not have practiced today if they did a good. This is good for me. I think this is a great news is a jalen samuels with his quadriceps. That has had him. he is missed. The last two weeks of practice. He was eliminated. Participant would would've been. I'm sorry my goodness. I gotta get my stuff together. Here he would have been a limited participant in practice on thursday. The following players would not have practiced. But we're not injured related. David decastro alejandro villanueva. Eric ebron Cameron heyward vince. Williams would not have practiced if they practice but they didn't practice. It didn't practice there. You go there's hypothetical injury report is is worth noting that markey's tounsi james conner gerald hawkins all those players that were on the reserve code. Nineteen list might. Tom was asked when they expect them back. He said look. We have no idea. We're going to get back when we get him back. You have you have players like vance macdonald who's just missed a game. But then you have players like kevin dots and he missed several games. There's protocols have to follow. I would not expect any of those players to be available for the pittsburgh steelers on monday. I think your best bet is to see them again on sunday night football when they go to buffalo to play the bills. That's probably the next time. You'll see pouncey hawkins connor etc. The hope fingers crossed that they don't have any more positive for the rest of the season. they don't have to worry about it. They don't have any high high risk contacts. All that stuff is become a part of the nfl in twenty twenty. The hope is that they don't have to deal with that this season. Oh let's go over to washington. Washington has actually been off for a while now. They played on thanksgiving day against were afternoon against the dallas cowboys. They were victorious They definitely look like a different team. With alex smith at the helm compared to dwayne haskins. Or whoever else. They put out a quarterback and so on thursday they practiced and they had defensive end ryan anderson with a knee was limited. Tackle morgan moss with a groin was limited in then safety razor everett with an ankle and tackle cornelius lucas with an ankle. Both were full participants in practice. That's it that's you only injury report for the washington football team. They seem to be a healthy bunch. But to be honest with you outside of bud debris he did was confirmed today by. Tommy did terry's acl. that's horrible news. You hate to see that but at the same time it's part of the game and unfortunately the steelers lost two of their most dynamic defenders. Acl injuries first. Devin bush now bud dupree. He's always into reserves. He's not gonna find his way on these lists but other than that. They're relatively healthy football team for all they've been through and going into this week. Thirteen game against the washington football team. Day scofield put it best. I didn't talk to you much last week with these injury. Report podcast because after a while nothing had changed it was basically the same exact report because The ravens were having their issues with covid nineteen reserve list. Steelers just kept on throwing out the same exact report over and over and over again. I think i can speak for all of us behind the curtain as well as probably most if you listeners. Were just glad that game's over. It's over gladys behind us and now the steelers look forward to the washington football team. Monday a little bit a little bit of a semblance of normalcy. Now you know with them. They'll be back in practice. Friday the practice friday saturday. They'll have a walk-through on sunday. Play on monday and then another short week as they prepare to go to the buffalo bills on sunday night football three games in twelve days jokes. That's what it boils down to. But we are to have everything for you that you could ever possibly want right here. At behind the steel curtain dot com. I wish that i could give you more information. But really if you go check out the podcast of mike tomlin's press conference recap gives you give you a lot of good information there for the upcoming game Also dave scofield's staticky makes you check that out and you checked out our post game podcast yet. there's two parts to that we talk about the offense in one and the defense and the other make sure you check those out as well as it did. I'll see you back here tomorrow. Friday for a second injury report podcast with his upcoming week. Thirteen game. In the meantime make sure the behind this curtain dot com is your one-stop shop for all steelers and also make sure that you're following us wherever you get your podcast. Google play itunes apple podcast stitcher anchor pandora spotify. You name it wherever you get follows. You don't miss a thing. I'm jeff hartman. Co editor behind the curtain dot com. I will see you tomorrow for. 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