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What to Do When Your Campaign Is on Life Support?

The Point with Chris Cillizza

05:31 min | 1 year ago

What to Do When Your Campaign Is on Life Support?

"Finding the right pros for home projects can be tough and spark a lot of questions. Like how do I find a pro. Who help will they do a good job? Will I get a fair price. That's where homeadvisor can help from leaky. Faucets to major remodels. homeadvisor connects you to the right pro for the job in seconds and even helps you get a fair price. Read Reviews News check. Project Cost Guide and book appointments go to Homeadvisor DOT COM or download. The free homeadvisor APP to start your next project and welcome to the point for November fifth. I've learned as he co author of the point. I'm here to cut through the political spin to bring you the news. You need to know the twenty twenty field is shrinking in case you missed it on Friday. The Democratic presidential residential field shrunk by one former Texas Congressman Beta. Overwork made the surprise announcement that he was dropping out of the race. O'Rourke told supporters. He couldn't raise enough money to remain competitive with his party's leading twenty twenty contenders. The timing was especially tough with with the announcement coming just hours before the Iowa. Democrats rallied at their largest event of the year. The Liberty and justice dinner a rock. Maybe the latest candidate to drop out but he certainly will not be the last. There are already signs of trouble from two other candidates. I I there is Kamala Harris who's campaign said that she needs to finish third in the Iowa caucuses to keep competitive heading into the Super Tuesday. Calendar your states. That's a tough call. Considering Harris is currently pulling at three percent in Iowa that puts her tied for sixth place with Andrew through Yang Harris. Also pulled her staff out of New Hampshire and her campaign headquarters in Baltimore channeling all of her resources straight into Iowa Iowa Houlihan Castro is the other candidate shifting resources with a sign of trouble. Castro laid off his campaign team in New Hampshire and South Carolina as he fights to keep his campaign afloat. This comes as his campaign downsizes pivoting their focus to Iowa Nevada and Texas like Harris Castro was hoping his investment in Iowa pays off Castro also plans to go on air with a small fifty thousand dollar ad had in Iowa starting on Tuesday morning. It's all in a bid to drum up enough publicity and support to register at three percent in we needed statewide polls to make it onto the November debate stage because yes Julia on. Castro has not yet qualified for the November debate. Eight shifting to Iowa is a tried and true tactic even if it doesn't always work it is the very first voting state so the payoff on a strong on performance comes sooner for campaigns than investing in any other state which brings us to the point for campaigns apparently early on life support and I also centric shift appears to be their last ditch lifeline and that is the point for November Fifth Twenty nineteen. Thank you for listening for more updates throughout the week including our Sunday night campaign addition subscribe to the newsletter at CNN dot com slash. The point if you like this audio briefing you can get on Google home or Amazon Echo or subscribe on Stitcher or apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP so you never ever missed an episode Are you interested in learning how great companies grow download the March tack podcast. Amar Tech. podcast tells the stories of real world marketers who use technology algae to generate growth and achieve business career success from advertising software as a service to data getting brands authentically integrated the content performs better than TV advertising. Typical life span of an article is about twenty four to thirty six hours. We're reaching out to the right person with the right message S.. Engine a clear. Call an action that it's just a matter of timing ready to learn the secrets of technology driven marketing download the Martic podcast just search mar tech attack. A Our T. E. C. H.. Wherever you download your podcasts? Are you interested in learning how enterprise gail companies drive organic traffic to increase their online visibility than download. The voices of search podcast kept from the heart of Silicon Valley Research Metrics Inc.. CEO Jordan Kunas. He delivers actionable insights. How data to navigate the ever changing landscape scape of Google Apple Pan? AM's the voices of search podcast arm search-engine marketers and business analysts with the latest news and insights. They need to navigate the ever changing landscape of search engine optimization and content. Are you ready to learn how to use search data defined strategic insights about your competition and your industry as as a whole and search for voices of search wherever you download your poke casts. That's three simple words voices of search to learn

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America Off Course | Guest: Gregory Wrightstone| 4/4/19

Pat Gray Unleashed

1:38:32 hr | 2 years ago

America Off Course | Guest: Gregory Wrightstone| 4/4/19

"Pat grade is here on the blaze radio network. Great Gabby with us. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three also add Pat unleashed on Twitter. As always we are just jam packed full of stuff. We've probably got I don't know ten or fifteen minutes worth of entertainment to jam pack into two hours. Can we do it? I don't know. I don't know. No one knows at this point. It's like the metric system. No one knows. There's just no way to tell. We're hoping to. We'll do our best. He'll give it the old college try, but we're only human, you know, we're only human by the way, traffic and weather together every four minutes on the threes. All morning long to keep you constantly updated on the situation in your area your local area there. Where you happen to live and on your way to work. Oh, that's pretty good. Or maybe you're just relaxing somewhere listening to this at a different time. You know, it's not even live. And then the traffic and weather updates won't help you at all. Yeah. Out the old by then. Wow. So I mean, why do we even bother? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. It's just us. That's how we are. We just, but it's that attention to detail. All right. So is there a crisis at the border now come on? Why why do people keep calling this a crises is it really a crises as the really something wrong? That question is driving me out of my mind. Where are you? Where have you been? Have you lived in a cave in Afghanistan for the last thirty years ours? A really a problem at the border. No. Is it a problem that one and a half million people? We don't know are coming into the country every year. Now, that's not a problem. Why would that be a problem? In addition to the one million we allow in legally every year. So that's one and a half million people. You got no idea who they are what they want. What kind of people? They are what they're intentions are. Do they have any skills? They bring to the table. And you just. Just let him in the middle of the night more broad daylight. And you just hope that they don't have any ill intention. That's all. Here's a little example of some illegals crossing into the United States of America. And what they go through. This is really really amazing because again. The parents do they have any responsibility. Sirens. Blaring? This guy's drag his child through barbed wire. It's safe. Don't worry about it. And cubs. More families. With adults dragging children through barbed-wire. This is after they've already. Practically drowned because they had to come through deep portion of the river as well to get to this point. Wow. So so there's a border agent police officer tell them go back. Go back. Don't do that with your kids. No, no, no stop. It. Don't do that. You're going to hurt him. And he's telling them that in Spanish, man. They just keep born in. No. There's no crisis mean, let's the problem. Why would that be any sort of issue for anybody? I don't know. I know it's not a crisis. According to Julian Castro, I'm sorry, Hooley and Castro. Yeah. He's he's making it clear. That's just not even a problem down there. Trump's just totally inflating that presidential hopeful Hooley and Castro said this about the border from this ministration is is that we are in a full-blown crisis in that they are overwhelmed by how do you think that I don't believe their narrative? I don't believe the BS that women children who are fleeing dangerous circumstances present a national security threat to this country. Okay. What about the seventy five or eighty percent of men from say eighteen to forty do? They present any kind of threat. He doesn't buy the narrative shifts. So unbelievable just the sheer stupidity. The suicidal tendency of some of these just want us to commit national suicide. That's what they want. They are so bad for America. They they are trying their damndest to destroy this nation. It's it's sickening. It's despicable and they need to be stopped. This. We've got to stand up to all of this. CNN actually sent Chris Cuomo down to the border. And apparently he noticed what is going on Chris notice it up? Yeah. Now, I think Chris took took a look around. To be. So I guess maybe something I don't know if I call it a crise well here he is Chris Cuomo and welcome to prime time live from the elbow, Texas. This is the real brand valley. This is the place you need to see your going to witness the systemic failure of the president and the tragic potential for our immediate future migrant situation is called the crisis. But you know, what that word is overused and doesn't do the situation. Justice show, you what's happening not easy to see. Yeah. Genius. Yeah. Yeah. We've only been saying that for I don't know decades. Literally decades crisis doesn't go far enough doesn't begin to describe what's going on. Wow. And any pins it all on the president? Yes. He does. Yes. That's true. What it's true. Like, he he's the guy trying to do something about it. How do you? How do you call it? His failure. Unless unless you you say that not building the wall bene- failure. Now, I think they're saying the lines are too long to get in. That's just taking too long to process every what we need to do is call Disney and help, you know, have them come in and help out with some of the crowd control. So short in the lines past right? Exactly. Exactly. Get some of the characters down there. Get this thing streamlined. Disney knows how to move crowds. And so they could probably help with this. Jeez. Well, Chris Cuomo realizes. Yeah. Wow. It's a wait. A minute is bad down here. CBS on the other hand questions. There's a crisis at the border at all rayvey real is their shows us the challenges agents face, even when there is a barrier. This group is part of one hundred and eighty migrants apprehended this morning by Amazon border agents for non degree Hobo says this area has become a hotbed for illegal crossings. I've seen six different presidents time that I've been with the border patrol. And this is the worst crisis that I've seen you actually will use that word crisis. You. We're in crisis. Yes. How can you not use the word crisis or catastrophe? Here's something where you look out your window. And yeah, I do see the catastrophe. You're using that word all the time. As it applies to the climate where you look at your window, and you don't see any catastrophe or you might see the occasional catastrophic weather event, which we've always had and will always will have. But you look out the window at the border and you'll see a crisis. You'll see a catastrophe just open your eyes. Well, Houlihan Castro doesn't see it. No. He doesn't. I don't know. They gotta get on board that you had to figure this out. I mean the media. I know I know it's a crisis. I mean, the evidence is there, right? I think the media like CNN in this case is like, okay, we wait. We've been going the wrong way instead of trying to make Trump look bad. We need to as you know, the media really likes to get viewers and use words like crisis. And I think they're just now realizing oh my gosh. We actually do need to be using this word. So they're torn right now on how to analyze the situation. But it's absolutely a crisis out of control and every day. There's a different story of an illegal alien in this country doing something heinous. We have we have stories we never get to of what is happening around this nation into not address. This is criminal. It really is. Yeah, we've got plenty of criminal illegals who are committing violent crimes. And the other thing that we never talk about irresponsible parents dragging their kids through running water that that could sweep downstream they could drown. They're going under deep water underneath offense trying to get to the other side. And then and then dragging their children through barbed wire tunnels to get into this country. Do you carry any responsibility? That's all Trump's volt. How the parents are risking the lives of their children. That's Trump's fault. Where are the people who are pointing out? What these parents are doing with their kids? It's nuts. It's not okay. This country needs to refocus. On. On with an emphasis toward helping Mexico Honduras, Guatemala, all of central and South America to fix their own homes fix their own house. So that there people can stay there and live. It is not our responsibility to take on the entire world's poor and poverty. Stricken stricken unskilled people. We can't we can't there's no way it will collapse us. It will fundamentally transform the United States of America. The longer we do nothing. So many of these immigrants are coming here with socialist mentality. Where do you think the socialism is coming from in part in large part? It's coming from Mexico central and South America. That's what they know. That's what they do. That's what they're comfortable with. That's what they're fleeing. And then they bring it here. Mexico has to fix Mexico Guatemala has to fix Guatemala. They need to take some pride in their nations. And we need to demand the do that stop with one single penny. Stop with any trae any kind of foreign aid to these nations at all and Trump is taken some good steps in that regard already. He cut off three countries and the aid to them until they do something about this. And that's what needs to be done fix your own house. So that the people can stay there become educated in their own country and rebuild their own country. Because we can't keep doing this. I mean, nobody wants to see bad things happen to these people. What's the favorite word of the left? It's not sustainable. Yeah. This certainly isn't sustainable and. Yeah, that's the one place where sustainability doesn't apply. They don't think about that. At all. Okay. We can sustain one to one and a half million to million illegal aliens pouring across our border every year. We that's that's a stable. Well, it's the richest country are not for long if we keep doing that. The bulk and his ation of this country is really damaging to us. That's the word. The reason there is Ord for that is because it's not a good thing. When countries become balkanised a look at the Balkans. I I don't know. It's it's hard to imagine that they can't comprehend the issue that they can't see the crisis and thinking figure out a way to Trump look bad. Yeah. The they're fine. That's that's the way they will draw attention to it. And the legal. I mean, they they know they just you just keep going you ignore the border patrol. And then once you're in the interior, then you go ahead and surrender to them. You'll wind up in court they'll release you into the community in you're on your own. Then you made it, congratulations. And then then they they they show up in court right now they have a hearing do. Well, they have a hearing. But usually there's no one there but ninety nine percent of the time. Nobody's there. Oh, the judges. They're the bailiff maybe a police officer. I get to see a judge in one of these. Immigration courtroom, just sitting there like filing his nails. We got somebody here. Amount here. Okay. All right. Well, welcome. Thank you for coming. I mean seriously. Yeah. What a joke to miracle of this show. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three and it patted leash on Twitter. Right now, there are fifty million kids attending America's public schools left doesn't even try to hide it anymore. They've made made it clear that their intention is indoctrinating the next generation and the one after that in their ideology. Well, they've been doing this for one hundred years, and they're doing it really successfully real world skills like reading writing arithmetic American history been replaced with social Justice gender confusion and test driven instruction in the classroom. Then don't even they don't even crack open the US constitution. And and teach that. Thankfully, there's a choice now though. And this is why freedom project academy was created. Freedom project academy is an accredited classical online school built judi- Christian today. Christian values for students from kindergarten through high school. They've taken the interaction of the traditional classroom and created and online atmosphere where students across the country are instructed by live teachers in small classes, and they teach your kids how to think not what to think. And that's what you want. Go to freedom for school freedom f o r school dot com. And request your free information packet, you're gonna love this place freedom for school dot com. And don't forget to subscribe to their weekly podcast. The doctor Duke show it's available in tunes and all over the place. Take control of your kid's education. Don't allow the leftists to indoctrinate them any longer freedom for school dot com. That's freedom for school dot com. Pat, Greg on me. We got some tweets from this morning's tweets came in after the show yesterday from slag, I twelve sixty one Midi should change the name of the show to Pat jam-packed. Good point. Okay. Rocky with an eye tweets. Chris Cuomo is a dish. That's pretty well established. Trump has done nothing. But try to stop this crisis. It's been the left and the mainstream media that it prevented him from prevented him from stopping it. Groping Joe's cafe. Did they drag their children through big water? Now, this was small water. It was a river river water. Leftover from yesterday after the show people often mispronounce we're talking about mispronounced words, people often mispronounced the word Beto. It's pronounced Robert Francis. You go like that. Tom Sheehan blondes are now telling Alexandria, Cossio Cortez jokes. Yes. That's good. That is fun. If they're not certainly should be me too. I love this trans persons suing McDonalds for using the wrong pronoun. Can't no hunting before six thirty central. You. Can't you can't sue someone for a pronoun? You. Can't this is police. Tell me this is still the United States of America. And you can't sue someone for using a different pronoun than somebody wanted him to us. I'm not comfortable telling you that. Well, yeah. Because you know, it's not true. Mississippi transgender woman is suing McDonalds and local franchise owners for repeated discrimination, never go. But Donald franchise owners Elizabeth and Andrew Smith hired joslin Kelly as an area supervisor. The suit said Kelly told the Smiths that she's transgendered shortly after Kelly began working the Smiths either directly or through their other employees began to discriminate against her Ono refusing to use the preferred pronouns to address Kelly using hear him rather than she or her own. No, it's Mayom, then sometimes barely addressed Kelly as it. Stating the transgenders are an abomination. Okay. Let's not do that kids. Mockingly calling Kelly Juwan man in reference to the movie the movie, Joel man, I I've missed reference to call birth Simpson would make the most I mean come on. I think I missed the movie to one that is either featuring male basketball player who's kicked out of the NBA and then impersonates female so he can play in at women's league. Assiting menial tasks that only entry level employees perform the actions were so traumatizing that Kelly was quote forced to resign unquote, vile discrimination against the Smiths with the Equal Employment Opportunity commission, she seeking compensatory damages costs, including reasonable attorney's fees and any other equitable relief. The court deems appropriate reasonable attorney's got news for you reasonable attorney's fees doesn't exist. This is going to this is going to continue to snowball. Another snowball that's rolling down the hill seemingly unstoppable with unbelievable momentum. Pronoun thing is so out of control. I mean transpeople now what are they point zero seven percent of the population or something they take it over? They now rule. This is -iety. They now officially are the rulers of our society. That's just an they could demand. Anything, you know? You know, call me g Comey non binary, call me. They call me these. I know I'm not going to refer to a single person as they doesn't make any sense. No. But again, are we gonna put our foot down or we just going to be steamrolled? That's what we have to decide. Do. We put our foot down. Do we take a stand or do we just allow them to steamroll us? I guess that remains to be seen. The Democrats are certainly trying to stimulus and so are these special interest groups, but what a push right now on on changing, virtually everything from the Democrats are very economic system. They're making no bones about the fact that capitalism is old decrepit evil. Unequal all of that stuff, and it should be replaced with socialism, and they're becoming more and more open about it every single day. And the other thing that they're trying to abolish other than ice is the electoral college, they are hell bent on destroying this nation. And this is exactly the way to do it. They're so excited over the fact that Trump won the electoral college, but not the popular vote. Do you think was the other way around they'd have any problem with the electoral college? No, they would raising wouldn't. Yes. Hey, this is founders intended. That's what they you know, you can cry about it all you want. But I thought you were in love with the founders. That's what they'd be saying. And you know, how many times it's happened in history where the popular vote was different than the electoral college. How many times in US history? I've got what three five five five times. A total of five big deal in two hundred forty three years. It's happened five times get over it. Instead, though. This week Brian Schatz, dick Durbin Dianne Feinstein Kirsten gillibrand introduced a constitutional amendment. They actually actually are going about it the right way trying to change it. So they've introduces constitutional amendment that would abolish the electoral college and pretty popular with the Democrats right now, the ratification would be in presidential candidates would be directly elected by the popular vote. Separately. Senator Jeff Merkley also introduced a package of election reforms, including a building also getting rid of the electoral college. That's really going to screw up alignment in college football conferences, if they don't have the electoral college odd number in their conference in the there's gonna be like bowl, you know, imbalances and stuff. There's a lot of implications. Our fives going to be in chaos if that happens, right, right? Recruiting crew. Yes. Seeing all kinds of. Yeah. Changes. I don't know the Democrats really thought this through what's gonna do TV rights ESPN's gonna have to get involved. But you you take care of the electoral college. I guess they're still gonna keep their basketball team though. Even if they're gone, they're keeping the basketball team. Why is that like a title nine issue there? Probably it is the the women's basketball team. The status quo's quite undemocratic in radical shots said this change in my view is an unassailable logical. Evolution of our constitution plow talking while the support for getting rid of the electoral college has grown more than sixty percent of voters in a poll conducted right after the two thousand sixteen election favored using the popular vote. Instead, that's because people don't understand it. They don't understand it. Bydesign. Geez. So I mean, they're starting this process. Now, the reason the reason they did this in the first place there were several one was. In the seventeen hundreds early eighteen hundreds the entire population wasn't all that educated. And so the founders wanted to protect the process from people who didn't know anything about it. So they knew the electors would have a better chance of being personally involved with skin in the game. They would understand the stakes and be able to do the right thing. They also wanted to protect the smaller states because. Now, the Delaware Wyoming and Utah, although states have an important say here because of the electors, and if you eliminate that nobody will pay a bit of attention to any of those states ever again, there will be no reason to do it. The other thing is. You can have a popular vote elected president without a majority. It's happened. It happened with Nixon and it happened with Clinton because there were there were three people in in those races and the independent siphoned off enough votes where the president was elected with only forty three percent of the vote. So then you've got the electoral college to make up for that. So that you don't have to have runoffs or ties or you don't you don't have somebody getting into office whose illegitimate necessarily. It's it is a it's an important system. And if you eliminate it we're in real trouble. I think we're in real trouble. This. This will go to a straight democracy. On the vote for president. And well, we saw what would have happened this time you'd have Hillary Clinton office. You have Al Gore. You would have had Al Gore. Yeah. You would have had all gore. During nine eleven two thousand one. We do. How many times more would we have been hit with terror strikes? If we hadn't have done something about the terrorist situation after nine eleven and without gore have done anything, you know. He wouldn't he wouldn't have done a thing militarily. Anyway, he would've asked very nicely. And he would he would have made. Sure that we we treat Muslims with respect. We must remember to respect all Muslim. Yeah. We got it. We got that part. We're worried about the radical ones that are trying to kill us. Let's do something about them would have been planning bombing raids based on the nesting habits of the spotted owl would have been fun to to have that happen, but no the electoral college. I mean, the the founding fathers of hord pure democracies? And that's exactly what that would have Bizet didn't work. That's why they didn't work collapse and those are based on the whims of man as opposed to the rule of law. And so definitely not something. You want to to have in your country looking up something here. I'm gonna have to find this later. But I read a quote recently that summed it up perfectly, and of course, have the worst memory ever. So I can't recall it, but it's the perfect water cooler argument for a co worker on the electoral college this thing gets team, and it's going to. But thankfully, we don't have Hillary. We don't have L gore, and we didn't have Samuel Tilden because that would have been a disaster you get Samuel Tilden in there. I mean that would've been brutal. All right. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm to say, yes, I'm going to find his quote. It's like a it needs to be on the Pat, gray bumper sticker collection. All right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three. Let me tell you about unplanned the movie if you haven't seen it yet, you really need to this to me such a powerful movie. And yes, it's rated R. It's a little bit of controversy about that. Because I think that's ridiculous. I mean, it is difficult to watch. And you know, if your kids are sensitive, you probably don't want them seeing this. But. It is an important movie story of Abby Johnson who had two abortions. Then she worked for Planned Parenthood. She was a huge abortion activist. She she was so much of an activist that our mom and her husband were both pro-life couldn't get her to think any differently. And she became the director of the clinic where she worked. She was the employee of the year for Planned Parenthood nationally, all that changed when she was called onto to assist with an abortion. And what she saw as she did the ultrasound changed her life forever. And this is her story. It's an eye opening look at the Planned Parenthood abortion factory. It's a must see go to unplanned, film dot com and find out where it's playing you're. You're just check your local listings. It's an theaters right now. Unplanned movie unplanned, film dot com. Pat, gray unleashed. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three and it paddle east on Twitter. Dishing up avocado tweets, Joe, Biden would never choose OC is running which has nothing to do with her intelligence age or incompetence. It's because she pulls her hair too tightly into that ponytail. What's he supposed to do with that? Yeah. It's too hard to run his fingers through. You could sneak up I guess behind her and smell or ponytail. Maybe. Maybe do that. We gotta play. Thing from yesterday, by the way, just a second gazette. It's good stuff. The deactivate tweets not trying to give them any ideas. But I predict the next thing the left will say is that there isn't a crisis at the border. But there is bordered as for you. So we need Medicare for all at the border. Keystone pig. That's right. That if we racist Americans didn't have all those obstacles these invaders wouldn't be forced to risk their lives illegally entering our country their lives and the lives of their children, which is our fault. Of course. Oh, yeah. Everything's our phone from avocado nuts. Pat, you can't sue someone for using the wrong. Pronoun, transgender woman. Hold my hot McDonald's coffee. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. And from dole Biden. I guess hashtag today is Pat got out of a speeding ticket by oh admitting foreigner doesn't belong in the rugged hall of fame. Would you do that to get out of a speeding ticket? Would got my integrity. I don't have my integrity. I don't have anything. I'm getting out of the speeding ticket by saying that I'm you. Didn't you just get one this morning? Didn't you just get a speeding ticket on the way? Sure. Dead. Boy, did I I love these things man. These are these are good things to have. Yeah. So I was I was coming into work three thirty this morning. And at a major intersection there. And I see the police officer come up to it. You know, and he turns left, and so he's pulling ahead of me. And I think to myself boy, I wonder if I'm gonna see him pull somebody over. Well, it did. Because that person was me that worked out great. Yeah. See I'm would you do? I was a problem. I went a little fast. I just completely forgot he was up ahead and fast as little fast seventy nine and a fifty five. Okay. That's a little fast fast, seventy nine fifty five. I'm not sure where my head was at that particular moment because. I deserve that ticket twenty four miles over earned it in so many ways I saw him. I knew it was up head. I was doing twenty four miles over non my best moment. Probably my dumbest moment in my life. When that's saying something considering I've tried to cut off my fingers before. So so yeah, deserve it for just being an idiot, essentially good constructive way to discuss it. But. So so you asking it'd be an expensive ticket. It'd be very expensive. I can't wait. And it also is going to hundreds fire station fund and Glenn town area. You're very familiar with pattern. That's where that money is going to be going probably ten or twelve of the fifteen tickets from that specific area from that road. Well, they're going to build a wing of your money by refrigerator built beautiful, and you're welcome. You're welcome Pat, gray memorial theatre what almost the name of the city, which probably wouldn't be a good idea since lives there. But it's good morning officer, gentry, you're quite a professional. I'll tell you that who do we have on the line. We have bigger and bingo winner from yesterday. Karen is joining us this morning Karen called in as we hit. Bingo. Like right at the last second of the show yesterday. Nice job. And she. Improperly way to go. Karen, california. Is that right? Hey, bingo. And so you're already awake in up. Or did we wake you up base? Oh, I am early retirement. Girl, and I wake up at four. Yeah. That's dedication, is dedication. That's that's fantastic. All right. So tell us where you're bingo bingo occurred. My bingo is left to right bottom lamb. Keep good grief, which is all day every day and then up to bat crap crazy job so debate such you up with with the price from shop dot the blaze dot com. Not yet. But I ruse ING I just got a cap. I just I ordered my bulk up a couple of weeks ago. Whatever just got that. I would have bought that. But so this time it's just gonna be a t shirt that I can wear for you know, workouts, and whatever matches my workout gear also. All right listening. Karen and thanks for getting up with us. So early in California, hang on a second. And these T shirts are quite soft. There darn handsome to they're soft and their handsome in their lovely all at the same time. Yes. Depending on your gender or whatever you're identifying at the moment of purchase. And we don't know. I mean, who are we far be from us to judge? You know, you're talking to the guy that sees the cop ahead and guess, yes. Still goes I will twenty four miles an hour over the speed limit. No idiot. Thank you for that one Martin. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. And at Pat unleashed on Twitter by the way yesterday. We played the president talking about how the oranges of the Muller investigation were problematic or he wanted to talk about the oranges. Here's here's what he was saying about the oranges in the Muller investigation. They now go and take a look at the oranges the arches of the. Investigation. The beginnings of that investigation. You look at origin of their origin where it started. How it started who started it? Whether it's a Cape or Komi or a lot of them. Does it go how high up in the White House? Did it go? You will all get Pulitzer prizes. Okay. You're gonna all pellet surprises. Sure. You should have looked at it a long time ago. And that's the only thing that's disappointing to me about the Muller report. The Muller report, I wish covered the oranges. How started want of the investigation? Aaron ges would have covered the oranges. So anyway, the press release that the White House put out the the White House put on a press release. They did sit up this president or this administration for some reason, they just won't admit he made a mistake. Anything goes like, okay. You just screwed up a couple of times on the word oranges. Let's laugh it off and admit, no, he invented a new word. They said it's oranges O R I N G S. So it wasn't saying orange using orange. Which isn't a word doesn't exist. But. I I don't know for some reason anything go. Yeah. Just leave it leave it admitted. Okay. He couldn't think of the word for a second that happens to all of us. And he probably put up that directive, and they were like, Mr President this one go. No, no. I'm not letting us go to strange thing. It really is with this with this particular president and all those people who are strong strong supporters. Go down that road with them too. It seems but just admitted okay? He said oranges instead of origin. So what move on it was funny? Don't worry about it. Let's just take a lump or two and then move on. That's all you have to do. No, no, no, no, not really all right late last year, the Manhattan District attorney's office released a grand jury report, noting that law enforcement had received two thousand complaints of deed. Fraud almost all of them. Involve faulty notaries -ation. The grand jury called the situation in epidemic. That's how bad it's getting criminals. 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Find out if you've already been somewhat compromised, go to home, title dot com and get some protection for your online mortgage home, tied LOC dot com. That way. Okay. So did you see Biden sort of? I don't think it was really an apology. It was more of an explanation of like. Okay. Look. I'm listening to these people. I'm I'm hearing you we need to have a conversation about this making me do this video. So I can still run for president. Yeah. I desperately wanted because he kind of well you'll see what he says at the very beginning. Sounds like yeah. He's going to run anyway. So he's got to put this behind him. And so this is that attempt to put this behind him yesterday. Tell me if this is adequate or not here's Joe. Expect to be talked you on hold on vicious, always talk about Justice. Support an encouragement that I've made to women and some made them uncomfortable. Always trying to be in my career voice trying to make a human connection. That's my responsibility. I think I share canes. I hope people I grabbed men Luma shoulders say positive I grabbed him by the shoulders, I smell their hair, I kiss the back of their heads, very slowly. Sometimes I licked their neck, then I'll run my hand up and down their buttocks. Then. Jeffy. But no, I love like I've made some Clinton. Like, he's going to be an equal opportunity groper. Now, I know it's twenty nineteen. I like guys to oh, I've smelled guys. Along with that was one guy. I was sniffing his hair and his to pay just sucked right up into my nostrils embarrassing. Embarrassing just not rocketed it right back out of my nose back onto his head up. Pretty well. Yeah. Didn't I mean, it wasn't exactly in place? But he kind of tugged on it and looks fine. All right. There's more always trying to be in my career voice. Trying to make a human connection responsibility. I shake cage. I hope people grab in shoal. Who said you can do this. You can do. Young old. Always been I've tried to show. I care about them and listened over the years know what I've been through the things that I've faced I found that scores of people's come up to me and reached out for solace. Something anything that may open through the tragedy. They're going through right? Because you're so incredible. Politics is cold in septic. I need. I've started about connecting. With people shaking hands hinge on the shoulder encouragement and stiffen their hand. And now it's all about taking selfish together social warriors began to change and the bone is protecting personal space have been reset. Yeah. Can I get I get it? I hear what they're saying higher. You're standing under style. Much more mindful. That's my responsibility responsible, and I'll meet, but always believe governing quite frankly life for that matter for that. Canty connected, connecting that will change it'll be more mindful respectful personal space. That's a good thing. Good thing. It's a good whole life to power limit. We're my Ren abuse them. I can't adjust to the fact that personal space is important more important than it's ever been is. He will he will please. Let me run for president. Please begging you right now. I am begging. You miss my chance of 2016. I'm still pissed about that. I could have won that thing. I'm begging begging you, please. Please don't turn on me. I worked my whole life with women. I mean, I I've been smelling women's hair since nineteen sixty three since he got to DC during the Nixon administration. Right. I've been I've been growing chicks for forty plus years. I'm sorry that the rules going on fifty now I blinked and now people are pissed about me kissing them when they don't want it. I'm sorry. Okay. So few next what? I'm job. I'm Joe being Joe middle-class Joe that's all a maverick middle-class. Everyday joe. With a vacation home worth two million dollars in the home and residents were two million dollars wants to make out with you against your will. But I mean, I'm class. Joe? Let it go. But I mean, please give me another chance, please. I'll stop groping women for a while like five minutes until at least until I get into the White House. Let me get the nomination. How about just let me get the nomination. Right. And then you can get pissed get mad again. And then I'll go back to Neil Smith and old, but buddy, you hear Neil. He'll go back to his old butts, buddy. Oh, that's right. He has means. Yeah. I forgot about that. I don't know if Neal is uncomfortable or not, but buddy, so. Was not happy with that reference. The vice president just talked how cool is that companies, but buddy, so so awesome. Like, there's anything wrong anything wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that thing. You know, he's groping my neck and kissing the back of my head. I don't know that seemed like it seemed like a good explanation to me if if I were Biden fan, I think I'd be fine with that. Would you think that I think I'd be? All right. You know? It's just that. We Joe being Joe if I'm a democrat, and I'm kind of considering Biden, I think that makes it okay? I think I'm like all right? I'll do it. Yes. I can still get behind him. If I like his policies. Yeah. He can man. I want him getting behind me and licking the back of my neck or milling my hair, even though it does smell terrific because you know, if Washington showered today, so those strawberry notes ProVia, actually. Yeah. I. So I don't want him behind me. But could we get behind him? I don't know. I think so I think so would you let it go at this point. Or would you would you think the guys to creepy? That's it was a pretty I thought it was a good explanation. I thought he'd pulled that off pretty well. No, I don't know. I'm trying to I'm trying to put my mindset into supporting him in this scenario. I can't support it. But if you're a democrat, that's what I'm saying. If you're a democrat mindset, of course, if you're a democrat, you don't care at all. Anyway, I mean, hey, I'm group me. Yeah. You'll vote for a child molester. If your grass. They don't care. They don't care. What a crazy world, man. So anyway, he's going to be more mindful about his actions. Why weren't you before though? I guess you could ask that question. Here's a quote, come on, dude. It's been a long time since this stuff has been out of bounds. You can't grope women. You you knew that before you can't be rubbing women's shoulders while their husband is standing at the podium. You can't be getting in the face of young girls and whispering in their ears for thirty uncomfortable seconds. Some weird stuff that he does. I got I got a scenario. Maybe I'm turning on. Joe now, maybe maybe that's not a good enough explanation. So how CNN CNN or maybe they're doing these different debates different themes, right? And you got LGBT Q is going to be probably foreign policy, anyway, whatever. There's going to be it may happen just at a regular one. But definitely happen at the women's. Issues debate where somebody is going to take an opportunity, especially if he's in the top three at that point to pick him off and become a hero to the female vote. All at the same time. There's going to be a candidate that calls him out. Yeah. There will very specifically. He's damaged goods. I don't see him getting through this this comfortable as I felt six months ago. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see because I think somebody will take the shot at him. And it'll probably be Bernie because Bernie's the one who's in second place right behind him. And he's a ladies' man, I mean, look at Bernie. I mean, he's going to fire people want him to the back of their neck. They want him to that's hot. Oh, yeah. Let's go to Russian bath house. Maybe. Let's just sit naked at that. Breakfast table with you one more time. Yeah. All right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three more pet grand least got up. Bad. Late nine hundred thirty three ninety three also at padded leashed on Twitter we were talking earlier, but. The effort to rid the US constitution of the electoral college, and what that would be a catastrophe that would be catastrophic. Catastrophic. Cataclysmic shift in the way this country. Alexa, president and it just it. We can't let it happen. It's going to be difficult. I mean, they've they need three quarters of the states to approve of it. So let's hope it can't happen. Let's hope it doesn't happen. But wow. Are they pushing for it and Beto was battling about this to this week? He said this is one of those bad compromises, speaking of the electoral college is one of those bad compromises we made it a day one in this country. There are many others. We can think of and they're all connected, including the value of some people based on the color of their skin. But all that is holy. He's talking about the three fifths clause and the three fifths compromise. When you're this. But stupid when you're this ignorant of what is in the constitution at why. And why it's there. That should automats disqualify you from running for president or any other office in this country. If you don't understand the three fifth clause isn't about the value of people. It is not statement on the value of the blacks in this country. It was a census count that was meant to keep the south with less representation than the otherwise would have had. That was the compromise. Okay. The racists in the south wanted every one of their slaves to count one for one not three fifths. They wanted one vote for one slave that would have given them two and a half million more votes instead of one point two or whatever it wound up. I just it's so ridiculous. How can you not understand that give north was? Definitely anti-slavery the north wanted them to count as zero. They said look if their property they don't count your horses. Don't count your couch. Couches don't count your bed doesn't count to your slaves and they had to find that compromise. So that they could keep the south in the union, but the self was at their value to them. No, they were racist. Pigs many of them. So how how is it possible that you can't understand that very simple concept of a census count for the purpose of representation? Man. Hey, continued. There's a legacy in a series of consequences that we have persisted that have persisted and remain with us to this day. This is Obama speak right here in this conversation about how we repair the damage how we make things right in how we keep from committing the same injustice going forward is squarely connected to the reason that we're all convened here today, and that is fixing our democracy. Okay. Three fifths clause, not about value of people, and we are not a democracy. Jeez. This point you said, this is Obama stuff right here. Okay. I just remembered he met with Beto Beto about a month ago. Right. And so after you made that point I listened to what you were quoting from Beto with the voice of Obama in my head Jones, just like him. It's it's Obama Beto. It is it's the same stuff. This is exactly the kind of nonsense that spilled out of the mouth of Barack Obama. And he felt the same way about the constitution all these bad compromises that we made from day one that made it a faulty document from the beginning. That's what he thought from the beginning. So Beto concludes here. So yes, if we get rid of the electoral college, we get a little bit closer to one person one vote in the United States of America. Do we? Why don't you go? Ask them in Cheyenne, Wyoming about that Wilmington, Delaware, man. Go talk to them there. Yeah. I'm sorry. Democrats, but if we get rid of the electoral college, we know what you're up to you only have to perpetrate fraud on and wherever you want to know to steal an election. Here you have to work at it in fifty states. You got you got to fifty states of fraud. If you keep the electoral. Colonel centers. Chicken, man. I didn't bring anything for us. I just wanted to think you for your kind of nation to the firehouse today. All the neighbor talking about it. We appreciate it. Inexpensive firehouse. We, you know. Billion dollars a fifteen point five fifteen point five fifty three fifteen point five, but you know, that serve six square mile area happy residents. So who doesn't need a fifteen million dollar firehouse. Now here is something that I found out last night. Now, I found this out for my neighbor haven't checked on it. But I figure Keith since you made a kind donation you could do the checking on this. I think you'll enjoy it. If indeed is true the reason why they built this firehouse is because they were in that crappy. Remember that crappy little firehouse? Yeah. Do you know why they were in the crappy little shed? 'cause I took a different route to work, Pat, and I used to go different ways. No. One of the firemen at one point left the stove on all my gosh. And burned down the fire station bird down the fire station. But fires out right? That that's their thing is so I got mazing. Yeah. So the joke and the count apparently is that the fire department believable burn down their own firehouse. Do we know what you're? I don't know. I don't know. This is my neighbor who's lived there forever. And he's like, oh, that's awesome. Glenn? You do have a sprinkler system in your house, right? That's fantastic. Yeah. So I'm sure all those firemen that. You know, genuine fire house on fire, and then couldn't put it out or gone. I hope so I hope they burnt down. This firehouse. I say they're not getting another one for four years ago. Lost your firehouse was four years ago. So how do we not reply? Do we not remember a firehouse burn with the guy ever heard of that? Or your lived here for years. Here's what has happened. They were just planning on adding onto that fire station. Then Pat moved to the area, and so they were going to build a new one. Anyway, we are here. Start when when he was in the hospital. They were like dear God. No, no, no, no, no. How are we gonna pay for the slayer? How two weeks? All right. All right. Good show. Good show. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. And it Pat unleashed on Twitter. We've got the so we've got this continuing effort on the electoral college to abolish it. We've got the continuing effort to abolish ice. We've got the continuing effort to just have open borders. We've got the continuing effort to completely eliminate the differences between men and women any kind of gender situation. What am I missing from the Democrats if if they are elected? The residency single payer single payer healthcare. Oh, college free college education. And then you know, there's been some floating around saying, you'll get rid of all college debt. And I forget who said that like. Something just forgive it. All Zandt Yang. I'm might have been Andrew Yang that some bad. That's fuzzy math that doesn't seem like his bed. That's true match up. Well, I mean, we're missing some stuff. I mean, there's abortion on demand all the way up to including an after birth. Oh, lower the voting age for kids to sixteen that'd be awesome. Seriously. These are these are catastrophic policies is amazing the stuff we have to discuss. Now, we are so fun it which we're still in here. He talks about you know, pointing your compass. Right. You know, and you start drifting before you know, what you're way over here. That's this country in the last thirty years. We just kind of. Before you know, it you're heading the wrong direction one hundred eighty degrees. Well, I mean now it's to the point where we have gone off. Just a few degrees at a time. And now they're just trying to take it the rest of the way all at once. Yeah. They're they've thrown all caution to the wind now all that's our off. And they're just going with the radical wing. I was reading this article just this morning. In fact, when it got up had a little cereal, and there was an actual article from a left-wing journalist, and I can't remember who wrote it, but it was talking about the radicalism of the democrat party. And his first sentence was of course, the GOP isn't the only one that's gone radical. Okay. You're gonna compare anything GOP has done with what the Democrats are are are talking about doing their socialist. And that was that's what he was saying. They've just become a full-fledged socialist now and completely radicalized and they've taken over the party, and they are taking it to the extreme left, and they're going at a hundred miles an hour over that cliff. But you're right. You're right. I mean, if America's a ship instead of just turning it one degree at a time, the the freshman up there. Now, the people running for president have taken that captains wheel and just spun it left as far as they can. Yep. Yeah. Good times there. I mean, it's there's no looking back at this point. This is like that that book from France, the Glenn found a ten years ago, or whatever it was it was the. Again. Now, he's not in hearing. I can't remember as a little book of of the the communists in France were sick and tired of waiting for all the change that they were promised the changes were coming too slowly, and they weren't radical enough. And so they were talking about all right now, it's time for insurrection. No the coming into coming insurrection. And so that's essentially what is now happening here. Now, people laughed at him oil bird. That's france. Well, look look at the playbook. They're using now they're essentially using that playbook right here in the United States of America. That's where we are. Now. So enjoy it because it's here lead up that as long as the coming interaction. It's the here insurrection. Oh, yeah. It's here. Yep. And it's it's what Obama talked about. From transforming the United States. Yeah. And I mean now we're ten years away from that beginning, and we're one election away from them just making it absolutely complete and a successful process. It's seriously. I hate to say this. But every election, it, it feels literally like this is this is it this is it seriously though, this should not see a nation on edge. Like that this one is it we are. We are on the edge. We should be electing a caretaker every four years, but instead we risk handing over the greatest gift on the face of the earth to a radical every four years. It's. And they've they've accomplished what they said they were going to do that we going to have to make sacrifices to change conversation. We're gonna have to change our tradition history. But this move into a different place. Tell me that's not accomplished all of it all of it. They've done that. They've done it all and they they warned us both Barack and Michelle warned us. Hey, this is what we're doing. Yeah. We love this country, but we wanna fundamentally transform it. Okay. Try that with your spouse. You you know, what? Honey, I do love you. But I just want to fundamentally transform everything about you. Because you just gotta change. You know, it's not that. I love you. I do you. How do you love something? If you're trying to fundamentally transform it. And then she talked about how because you gotta change a tradition. You've got to change the conversation. You gotta change the history and they've pretty well. Successfully accomplished all of that regulation on fulfilling your campaign promise. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three Glenn launched real estate agents at trust dot com years ago for a simple reason. So that you could sell your home for top dollar as quickly as possible. 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That's really good go to real estate agents. I trust dot com. We'll introduce you to the best agent in your area real estate ages. I trust dot com. Great on me. Gregory writes, don't coming up in just a few minutes on the global warming hoax. Find out where he gets his information. And why nobody nobody seems to believe is information. He just testified in Pennsylvania before the Pennsylvania legislature and. They weren't exactly moved didn't seem like. The chairman of the committee called it a waste of time. Because you know, nobody deserves to be heard from the other side there's consensus consensus climate deniers. In georgia. They've been threatened by. Hollywood Hollywood elitists over there. Heartbeat bill. Like if you if you can hear the baby's heartbeat net. Sorry, you're too late for an abortion passed it passed the house, and it's waiting for the signature of the governor. The governor says is going to sign it. Yep. So Hollywood leftist Eliza Milano what a nightmare. She is. Wow. Yeah. She is the the Alano that's giving Joe Biden a pass, but was all up and. Face right, showing up at the hearing right nobody'll evidence. Nothing, you know, related to him the stands out a solid evidence. We have archive footage that goes back decades. But no, no, no, we're gonna give him the benefit of the doubt such a hypocrite just such a hypocrite. So she shows up at the judge Georgia's state capitol building handing petitions or whatever here's here's what happened. What is your joy? I work what district. What from thirty people out to vote in Georgia. Interrupt me that I was going to escort. And let me sport as you. No. But the people that work on my proof of letting the entertainment industry, actually, employs do what you're. District one. Nothing. Voting on. What was implied? Good gosh. Oh for the cameras. He's the men that are. What's the turn camera operator? If you're. The coke brothers still live here. Either. That is just I mean seriously that was Republican state rep. Dominic Ricca good for him. Good for him. What district of Georgia? Do you vote in what district of Georgia de live in no district in Georgia get out, then it goes get out? So that's that's district. One nothing. You know, the coke brothers. Okay. The coke brothers boogeyman. Again. That's what you've got. Getting really difficult. I know this is going to be really difficult to difficult to what? To not just go absolutely eight crap on these people. Hey, you need some of the city. Some duct tape handy for the program. Bad crap. Crazy with this Melissa Milano stuff. Wow. So yeah. I mean, this hypocrite automatically believed everything the cabin accuser said from thirty seven years ago thirty seven years ago with absolutely zero evidence of any of it. She believed all that. She doesn't believe apparently any of the Biden stuff. The Biden stuff is perfectly fine with her. This is the guy that's going to vote on what happens inside her uterus. Are you pregnant? I don't think. So I don't think she even has she had a single child she ever been married. I mean, she doesn't have to be married to have children, obviously, she's from Hollywood. I don't think. So I don't think she has children. So what he's talking about? What goes on inside your kids? She does know she doesn't hang on a second here. I don't know. How old were they humans been where? Mary I'm being told when they were inner wome where the human so she had a baby girl five years ago. And I don't know the baby. Boy, how old he is. Because how about that? Google hates me. Okay. Well, I mean, Google is not the only one, you know, that's true. What's happening? Does that even mean? So okay. So apparently, somebody didn't tell her what to do with their uterus and she actually gave birth to the children good for her. She's been married since two thousand nine to whom like an actor or a regular booby. Ari thirty eight she's got. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So she turned out to be hideous. And she what was the name. It. Was it the boss who's the boss? Yeah. That's what it was. Man. Those days that seems like a different lifetime ago, doesn't it? Yes. It does that Eliza Milano and that time period, and that sort of television show that was a different lifetime. We're we're we've moved to a different place with a different conversation. We've changed our history. We've changed our traditions since then that's for sure. And now we got stuff like this. Your body on regressive liberalism. This is this is fun. It's a Japanese form of therapy that takes you back to the womb. Yeah. Let's say on the blaze TV he's supposed to beat stressed by wrapping yourself, a big bag and rolling around the floor to relax technique. I don't know about you. But I call her claustrophobia. Yeah. That doesn't look relaxing. It all looks that looks dumber than speeding up when there's a coupla head. I would be I would be freaking out absolutely wrapped up in that thing. No. Thank you pulling out switchblade cut myself out of that bag. So this is the new thing you're supposed to wrap up like you're in the womb and then roll around like an idiot. Roll around like a moron. I've seen and then free ten somebody just aborted you. I mean, this this the the tree chicks into different light. I almost like they're normal after looking at people roll around the floor in a big give it six months, and those tree chicks will be completely normal that that. Now think twice about six months after that rolling around in a bag on the floor in Japan seem normal. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Boy, triple eight nine hundred thirty three eighty three. All right. We got Gregory right stone coming up there was some inconvenient facts for the global warming alarmists. We'll get into that. He just testified in Pennsylvania. I think it was on Monday, and they didn't treat them. Well. 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Temperatures by half a degree had all that he going into the atmosphere. Air temperatures could have risen by more than two hundred degrees. Thank. If the world didn't function the way it does. Right. We'd all be dead. That's not good at barely there. They were surprised it function the way it did. But we're supposed to believe every thing they say well. Gregory writes stone wrote a book called inconvenient facts? Really good stuff in it, the science that Al Gore doesn't want you to know. Gregory joins us on the blaze. Gregory welcome to the place. Thanks for being here. Thanks back. Great to be back on. You testified was that this week in Pennsylvania to the. Last week last week. Okay. Can I just when you were talking one of the questions I was asked. I I did a thirty minute presentation huge and the during the Q and one of the one of the representatives asked me what's the difference between weather and climate. And I kinda gave him a lighthearted response. I said, well if you're climate alarmist, and it's ninety degrees on March fourth that's climate. It's ten if it's ten degrees on March fourth. Well, that's weather. Right. That all the time. Yes. And so true. So true. But it was a unique opportunity for to actually sit down and government hearing and have a full hour hearing on climate change. And there were heads were exploding on the democrat side. Oh, I know it's the first time a lot of these people in this room had ever heard a rational science based response to made catastrophic warming they were taken aback. They attacked me. Not what I said, not not not what I had to say, not the facts, the science, they pack me as a science denier. But so they they couldn't they couldn't assailed the facts. So it's great to get that out there in that setting. And in fact, I just linked on Facebook this morning got a response back. They turn down my ad that rejected my head with a link to my testimony. Talk about talk about targeting Facebook targeting meet today. Unbelievable. I mean, that's the first time you've been a couple that with what apple did with your app where Al Gore sits on the board of directors at up, and you you got to. I mean, I don't know how these platforms are keeping their their federal protections. Because the only reason they're allowed to function without any threat from what people say on their platform. What people do on their platform is because they're supposed to be non bias when they when they become biased. Then they lose the protection that the government provides them from people doing weird things on their platform. And they're all knowing that. And they're all, you know, they're they're just banning people on the right? They're banning anybody who disagrees with the so-called consensus. What where does your your app? Stand. Now on apple is just done. They just is over. It's not over in my book. They they've we appealed it we rolled it out on the pack ratio. And we had certain. I mean, we were on Glenn Beck later in the morning. But I'm sure it was Pat gray show real of our sales tiles and sales in the next ten days or so fails but downloads, right and then two weeks after that apple pulled it from the app store. They said it lacked compelling content. You've seen it. It's. Awesome. Awesome. And if you look if you look if you look at the go to the the app store and look for climate change apps, these ones that they have and they up and they approved six like failed middle school science fair projects. Ours looks like the gold standard. So what they needed to silence because it was too compelling mazing. I love the love the photo that you tweeted out after your testimony the other day in Pennsylvania because you had a bunch of colorful characters show up. And and so you tweeted this photo out and said, I was told the climate change was a serious issue by the cat in the hat, the grim reaper, Aleppo Khan and a guy with a dragon on his shoulder. And you got a photo of all of these. Looney tunes. Standing there to protest you. Because climate change is serious. And you're not taking it serious. I mean, how can you? How can you doubt? It was incredible. They hurt there's 'cause so badly all these goof-balls, and they were everybody in that hearing was taken aback because I they were expecting some it been billed as this radical science denier. And I, you know, first thing I said when I got up was, you know, we're increasing C two and C two's warming that misfield to some degree and really the difference between me and them is how much warming is attributable to see to increase. Right. I all argue it's modest and greatly overwhelmed by natural forces. And I think there's a there's a really really really strong component to these natural forces that what they want your listeners to believe is that the same natural forces driving temperature for since the dawn time suddenly sees. In the twentieth century. They don't they don't recognize any naturally drove warming. That's just your listeners know that. That's not the way that works it Scillies and the only way that you can be on board with their consensus with with their way of thinking is if you believe it is man caused all man caused and catastrophic when you when you ask them about about what is catastrophic. What what is the response is do just hear the usual? Well, there's droughts and there's floods in there's tornadoes and there's her. Yeah. I haven't really gotten a response back because my the my main mantra is there was bad things. We hear about our is speculation about what might happen. Thirty fifty radiators in the future based on failed climate models. Right. And they go. Well, you know, they're him in the hall, and and and no one's disputed what I show and what I show is what's actually happening in the earth today. Fires droughts intense heat waves are decreasing not increasing look at these things. Things are getting better not worth. I mean, I see earth. That's that's thriving and humanity birth humanity or thriving and prospering Ray of warming temperatures, increasing CO two and an eighteen in close. So it's it's, but you know, what they did by taking this app down it blew up. It was the number one lead story on drudge for about a day and a half sales of the book skyrocketed, we were number one. I mind you publish the book over a year ago, we're last in with the last two weeks, we're number one bestselling book on Amazon and five different categories, including environmental policy in public policy. And so we'd actually backfired on what they did. And for those that are interested, Gregory. We are tweeting out at pet unleashed linked to the book in the app. Those would like to check it out. Oh, thank you can't help you with the apple version, but the Android. Link is what what we just tweeted out do they dispute that during a I think it was the last interglacial period the earth warmed because all of this unprecedented stuff. Everything is unprecedented to them and yet we've gone up. What point nine degrees in one hundred years one and a half degrees Fahrenheit, or whatever? It is something in that range. You're you're close. But haven't we didn't we go up fourteen degrees in the last interglacial period Fahrenheit, perhaps the there was the Neal's bore institute had a study came out about a year ago? They looked at this this last interglacial period. In case you care. It was called the Amy and period. And according to them, it was eight degrees celsius warmer what our current periods. Eight three celsius. And it translates into. I I'm just guessing it's around fourteen degrees warmer, which meant there was there was likely virtually no little or no northern polarize the polar bears survived during that period with no polarize. I don't know. It's hard. No one was around back there. We don't know how well they survived, but they did survive, and and there so this was this was a much much warmer period. And we we see the other warming periods in the past that have that prospered in thrived. We're warmer than we are today. We know that the most recent one the medieval warm period. Glaciers are receding now if you up to the mendenhall, glacier and last my wife, and I were up there you can go. They're exposing full grown trees from that warm pyramid. Even warm period. The stumps of those were taken over by glacier. Well, these were fully mature forest. So it it had to be a lot warmer. Right. Right. And they're finding archaeologists are having a heyday now as glaciers are retreating with villages and settlements and things that are now being exposed there were taken over by the glacial advances and the little say JR. So I mean, we know these other periods were I mean for crying out loud. The time of Christ Roman more period. They were growing citrus. The Romans by Hadrian's wall in Great Britain citrus anywhere in Great Britain today. And we're there weren't there. Fossils of pump pris in the Arctic area at one point. Didn't we find something like that? As well. But that's you have to be careful there. Those a lot of those fossils because of plate tectonics something that that's that's in the Arctic and now or someplace else these these plates drift around over hundreds of millions of years. So you know, we can find. So there may not have been palm trees in the Arctic at one point and not at the Arctic of that time. Okay. Yeah. Right. All right. We're we have we were Otake between what it called hot house and ice house conditions where it's really warm, and we're in an ice house condition that we're actually in a period. That's unusually cold right now and things are going to get bad at some point. I'm telling it, we you know, that we're we're eleven thousand years into a into a warming period. That I mean it could end. Anytime. Right ten to fifteen thousand years, usually. Yeah. And we're we're near we're closer to the end in the beginning. And it's it's going to be horrific. And when it comes we're gonna find that Donald Trump's building wall on the wrong border. Eighty million Canadians had in south. For riffing riffing. So my advice to to your listeners would be to either by another paramedics or some property and Costa Rica? Because it's not going to be pleasant, and we'll probably with the transportation with moving food around. It's hard to predict what might happen, but it won't be. It's going to be ugly. As a guy who deals in facts and put out this book that you know, is filled with facts, how do you deal with it? When they tell you that there's there's climate consensus on this. And that, you know, you're a crackpot for believing. Any different get that a lot. I spoke three weeks ago to the Ohio geological society in Columbus, Ohio. We had forty five geo scientists in the room or so, and you know, what there wasn't a ninety seven percent consensus in that room. It was a one hundred percent consensus every single person in the room agreed with what I had to say all scientists and the big discussion after we were done in the Q and A were these world geologists, we take the big picture. And that was the big discussion. We had was as geologist most of us agree. Like, I do because we see the big picture. We know that climate changes in temperature changes because that's what we're trained to do look in the big picture. So I see this when I talk. To a lot of geologic groups, and I see the same thing when I talk everybody's nodding their head. And and thanking me for saying what I'm saying. So there's the I wish we could have a poll of scientists the only one that's been done before. It was called the Oregon poll thirty five thousand degreed scientists signed the petition the Oregon petition right against combating this notion of man-made climate change, including Edward Heller, the father of the h bomb a lot of very. Famous. Scientists agree with me in terms of naturally driven warming and changes mostly frustrating, then to continually here this consensus talk, and to continually be belittled, as you know, you're a Ken to two year akin to a holocaust denier, that's that's the way they try to present this that you're that stupid that you're that ridiculous. There's so much proof of this that it's Kintu denying the holocaust in the opening sentence of that ABC news affiliate in Harrisburg referred to you as climate denial list. Gregory, right. Stone testified today in Harrisburg come off it, man. That's in that when I'm attacking, and we got into that and the Q and part of that one of the democrat representatives mentioned deny or and I said, that's I said, I've never met a climate denier, I've never met a science say a lot of skeptics like me. So once again. They need to attack the messenger belittle the messenger. Their big thing. With me is that I'm not I've never published a peer reviewed scholarly article about climate change. And they're right. I haven't most of my work is been have been published just basic geology, mainly of the Appalachian basin here on the you know, and some of marginally deals with paleo climate because that's what we that's one of one of the aspects of what I wrote about. But that's how they literally the big thing with them is I'm not peer reviewed author. Well, I'm not, but I can use experts that are ran and quote them. I don't I'm not a fire expert when I talk about fire, I refer to those that are when I'm I'm not a a hurricane expert. But I quote people from no and NASA EPA that are, and that's certainly legitimate to do that. And so they. They try and shoot the messenger instead of the message because they can't shoot the message. It's fully science and documented and back fact based and what do you make of things like this new proposal of the green new deal spending? Maybe a hundred trillion dollars. Yeah. Is he the dirty little secret is that only about we say own like six to eight trillion dollars. This is over the first ten years. This is focused on energy and environment. The remaining eighty to ninety twirl you dollars are focused on the social welfare programs like housing for all forcible housing for all guaranteed jobs living wage that also get full benefits things like that. That are getting get you close to one hundred trillion dollars over ten years. It's. If you look at most of the Marxist proposals that have been bandied about over the last fifteen or twenty years have been thrown into this thing. And it's it's really what it is. It's a Marxist agenda masquerading environmental policy, and even if we even if we take a look, and we got rid of all of the all of the carbon dioxide proposing. It's likely according to the magic calculator actually, we adding that if you've got an Android to the app soon to have that it's it's developed. We just need to add it what it does is calculate. How much temperature increase reduction? You'll see by getting rid of ten twenty one hundred percent if we got rid of one hundred percent of the carbon dioxide increases in the United States. It's it's estimated we would reduce temperatures by three hundred six hundreds of a degree centigrade. Gosh, twenty fifty. Yeah. Less than a tenth of a degree centigrade. If one hundred percent CO two reduction well. Well. Wow. So not only can we not do it. But the other part is should we do it for such a small change in Tampa -ture? Well, if you were to ask Al Gore who was who who's essentially asked about this with the with the Paris accord that even if every single country that signed on including us if we signed back onto it, and and we complied completely. It's still doesn't get you anywhere near where you claim we need to be any said well that that's true. What you doing? He's doing it for some what to settings an example or something. That's what they tell you. Well, we need to set. The example, he's probably somewhere jetting on his private jet somewhere. Just burning the loads of fossil fuels to get their these news people are hypocrites what they wanna do. And you know, they, you know, they have been so successful in frightening the population. It's every day some new some new scare tactic. And it's always getting worse. It's but yet we don't see it that it's getting worse. You know, they tell us about oh, there's a flood in Maryland. It's the third hundred year flood in whatever how many three decades or two decades or whatever. Well, then you dig into it and you find out. Well, that's just not really. So there was this huge in nineteen twenty two. And there's what about this one? Eighteen fifty one. We don't talk about that. But it's like when we try and be bunk. These things it's like playing whack a mole soon as you as soon as you hit him in the head and say, no, this is wrong. Three more spring up. And we bunk them as soon as we can. And it gets it gets frustrating. But I'm very very optimistic. Pat, what I see going forward as I travel around the country. I I think there's this great thirst for good factual unbiased information about about about climate change, people are thirsty for this knowledge. And that's what we're seeing hope. You're right sales. Book sales are just exploding because we provide that we provide that unbiased information about about climate change instead with no alarmist spin. And I try and keep my, you know, the. Opinions out of it. But this this subject is it's science, but it's also political science, and it's as much politics as it is science again is inconvenient facts. The science that Al Gore doesn't want you to know and the app you can get where working because because it's not available in Google play store. If you have an Android. Just search for inconvenient facts. It's awesome. All right. Appreciate it. Gregory. We love the book loved the app, and and thanks for doing this for she it. Thanks. Okay. Thank you, Gregory. Right. Stone inconvenient facts science. That Al Gore doesn't want you to know. It's it's loaded with that. It's an excellent book. And it's part of my kids, homeschool curriculum. Now should be a part of everybody's because you need to know these facts when you get a costed by you know, the climate change alarmists. This is melting. Yeah. No, it's it's not in fact, it you just see the article last week about the the big glacier in Greenland that they've been so concerned with because it's receding alarming rate will now it's growing again. Oh, yeah. Growing it's the same Greenland that's going to completely melt. Right. The that used to be warm enough in the medieval times to grow barley. Yes. Now, it's too cold to grow at their right? But it used to me the Vikings used to follow barley and probably made beer out of it. So probably now it's melting to the point where Miami is going to be under water, and you're going to be able to see fish swimming, down the streets of Miami on a sunny day. So scary stuff scary. And yet, you know, it it doesn't matter. What happens is far as the as weather or climate. It just proves their points. So it's a this is a really tough issue to win on. And he gives you all the facts you need to be able to debate this with your climate change friends. It's really good stuff. All right. So, you know, we still haven't gotten to this Harry Reid story about the exercise band. Oh, yeah. The horrible accident that happened to him where he said this band broke because it was defective. What was he doing exercising in a back alley? I wonder. Yeah. He wasn't. He was. Okay. Well, you guy named Guido. But it's not what it was doing. He's actually exercising. Yeah. One type behind his back right to work out. It's not weird. It's really weird. Okay. And so he smashed his face somewhere on something and was really badly injured. And at the time he said, no, it's not the injury that I'm retiring. Now, he says it was pretty much injury that made him retire. So I don't know. Anyway. Didn't break, but he's still suing the exercise band company, we need to get into that company. Made earlier I Iran happen. Harry Reid's xactly.

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Smoke Bombs and Sandwich Wars and also Real War

Bird Road Podcast - All Points West

34:40 min | 1 year ago

Smoke Bombs and Sandwich Wars and also Real War

"We're I'm doing it when he does bring up notes real quick. Oh you've got notes again and got them. I'm not It says here. I'm sick and I'm doing this and you're are you sick. I am really sick. I yeah you have you did it coffee for for those little a little behind the scenes. We just recorded a piecing it together episode on parasite and Q.. Coughed a bunch during it. I'll clean that up for you. Don't worry I don't feel so good this past weekend. I was sick fucking dog but I'm good now so tap it and Q.. I'm I'm Q- I'm Jewish. Dave was bird. Rose is bird road we got it. That's IT Dave. This is going to be a real fly by the pants episode. Don't have a whole lot to talk to other than having been sick. And they're being a war her which I guess is not going to happen now. It's not I I've been working all morning. It did something major happen or what. Yeah I think Donald Trump just basically said like up Sari sorry sorry salaries everyone mad at me. Why are both trump impressions very Julie? Well guess what do you think you know exactly exactly what is happening right now. We talk about that got wireless Wi fi based charging like real the White House where it's just charging if you're sitting in the same room doesn't have to be on probably good for you're not giving cancer. I know that that's what I've always said. It's going to be the end of us but I cannot wait. It's going to the fucking best best way to a phone fully charged. That's all I really want. The riddle with with radiation poisoning failed with tomb is as my mom. Says a better body's filled up with toomas. You cut your leg opening toomas pour out what else the Golden Globes were this past week in the Oscar. Nominations come out on Monday. Which one is the one that was was all racist a racist movie that one things or that? No no that was There was a an awards thing that was. Oh ooh that was a bunch of bunch joker one every they gave joker every single war. Yeah Ben that's the Baptist which is basically the British Oscars. Yeah Joker got the most most nominations of anything not a single person of color for any of the acting categories no women for directors. They all those people really really We don't need and then they they. Actually they leave they made. They made a statement. They blamed it on the industry. They said the industry needs to change. So yeah our hands were tied the why. Why are you hitting yourself game getting yourself? Yeah AH I may not be the woke guy on the show but you can do better than that and they they nominated Margot Robbie twice. It's in the best actress. Category just saying day could've battered five lines of dialogue. So that's what's happening there early on in the show. I don't know what we're going to talk about moving forward but I should get the plug in for all rice beans which the the trailer episode of the Newest Show here on the all points West Network which produce Just went up this week and the first full episode will be up on Monday. It's a podcast about restaurants hosted by Stephanie Barajas of Linda Mutual. Gone a Mexican restaurant chain here in Las Vegas and is really fun behind hind the scenes. Look at restaurant owning and it is. It's going to be a great show. People have been responding really well to the trailer so far and I hope all of you out there and bird road land listen to it. Why don't you tell the story? You just told me you don't have to use names you our friend. A good friend of ours just had his fortieth birthday party. Yeah I won't use a name but he will never listen anyway so I probably could. I don't think any of the people that were there listening to this show. Might as well so. We're having a little friend reunion party for one of everybody. WHO's this group of friends? Unfortunately I could make you hadn't and been together in the same room maybe fifteen year. Yeah some of them. Some of them last by some of them definitely had been a good ten years at least since any those had seen each other it was a great time and we. We had a blast. I forced myself to go out. It was while I was sick but I had a good time anyway but towards the end of the night. I'm we're all standing around just talking all of a sudden I feel this heat on my back and I started pointing to this group of friends. The we're like in our thirties in some cases early. Forty S. Yeah they we're we are grown men grown as small drinking. If you know no shots no anything going crazy just many with children ability s and like you know things were saving keeping for lives and jobs and careers. I feel heat. I smell smoke I turn around and and one of those friends has just lit a smoke bomb and dropped it on the floor. The Room of the bar starts filling up with smoke the patrons of the bar start exiting. The bartenders are screaming. What the fuck is happening? They immediately nerve terrorism. They immediately kicked my friend out. Who did it he has? He's being kicked out. He's saying I'm sorry fellas. I'm sorry I haven't talked to him since I have no no idea why he did it. What he was thinking? And there's a there's a greater than zero percent chance I would say greater than fifty percent chance that nobody buddy will ever talk to you that I actually as I said. I'll change his name to George. For the sake of this. I said I said to demise is and rubs as we were standing there I said and we never saw George again. That's that's probably probably is exit exit from that chapter of his life. He's probably GonNa Start something else. There's no telling. Yeah yeah that's that's kind of the group that we used to. That's our friends. I mean in context. That wouldn't be. That would still be a pretty crazy thing for us to have done back. When we were in our like early it would be a top five story? Let's put it that way like you remember. We stole the. Were you with us when we stole the The pool who every every every Monday night we used to go to the wet t shirt contest at pinkies at a bar. That's been demolished for like. I don't know ten fifteen years now. Vegas used to be a bar called pinkies and we would go there every every night for the wet t shirt contests and one night. We got it in our head that we were going to steal the inflatable pool that they use and we timed it out. Where you with us? I was the getaway driver. You're the getaway driver so this was on top of your car that we put the. PS Yeah and we were holding it and driving down the street driving down Decatur Boulevard drunk. I think we've played the fully inflated pool on Hell being held down by by our arms Dr Stupid I buy. That story was one of many that was told Friday night. So many many with you who in the in the starring role. But I feel bad I I really had given it an earnest effort but too much going on in Miami now speaking of Shit going on. We're trying to book. Some some live shows coming up soon. One here in Vegas The which hopefully will be able to announce really soon and one out there. Air Miami. No word on that yet no. I texted him right before we started. Haven't heard back from them but We I think it'll happen. But we'll announce it on the next saying saying meanwhile here in Miami I've been told my wife this but meanwhile here in Miami We have a show that is booked. We're going to be at seven March fifteenth the ides of March. we're going to be At gramps in Winwood and here in Miami Florida at Seven PM Davis China. I don't know I guess he's he's doing the thing where he pretends to see if it's possible for him to actually come and then like the guy can't do it but are we be celebrating our with Bater Gainsbourg's birthday yes. The are you open black robe. I'm GONNA dress you up in a black robe and slowly Li like Ruin everyone of your organs until you can't live anymore So Yeah gramps. Seven o'clock winwood details detail to come. Don't have any Don't have any other information about that yet. Hopefully I'll be and then potentially a a show in February in Las Vegas. We will know more. You're when you hear back from US next week probably that's right. So what else is forget to subscribe right and reviewed to my show my ear show. What's what's your show? That's just like I mean you know. I have albums comes available. I could I could plug that. What can we plugged? It was just plug is thirty minutes. I got plenty of stuff. Have you blend the WAX trax. I got T. Shirts T. shirts in the back I've got I've got old business cards kids from previous jobs seriously though awesome movie or season three just started on the films of Nineteen eighty-nine so also plugging lugging ships. That's my last one. I'm going to do any more awesome movie. Yeah subscribing review in all those things all those shows mostly this one yes. I'm Dave when you come home. How long is it until you have shorts on usually as soon as humanly commonly possible? Yeah I'm still wearing pants for my day of work and I wonder like is worth it. It's not comfortable. Not Comfortable being a hefty hefty guy. We're in you know what I will say. One thing that nobody tells you. I obviously the lost a lot of weight over this past year and I've been wearing some more Street cut pants and aren't so baggy and that are that look. Look much nicer Some that nobody tells you about that is how hard it is to get them over your feet when you go to take them off when you get home at the end of the day you gotta sit down you gotta like unfurl it that the right word what you can't help you look just like our Sarah. I feel like he didn't have a beard when I saw on Friday in the in the video chat. I have an ability to just push beard. I just kinda squeeze my face and I flex and beard comes comes out. I gotTA reconnect holidays. The follicles are afraid of being inside me. Because we're the inside of me. The inside of my head is terrifying hitting the I'm like I'm so hopped up on different medicines and stuff like that. Unlike my mind's not really there were unprepared for this episode. I like I'm just kind of absent. mindedly pushing the caps lock button over and over and staring staring at the lights. Turn on. Yeah I mean explain to me how we talk about the thing that everybody's he's talking about the big news. The son of billionaire Ron New York Times who I was searching news. The New York Work Times Nobel laureate a columnist columnist economist. Paul Krugman saying that On twitter alerting everybody today that he's on the phone with his computer security service and as I understand it. Someone compromise my address and is using it to download download child pornography might just be a random target but this could be an attempt to Q.. Anonymity that sits an ugly rolled out. There it's a smooth move. That's the move where you like you. Somebody's IP address. Give them job on your feet. I don't I don't know. Is that a move. I said that's the move but I'm not really sure if that's if is that a move. I love that the first reply is okay boomer. Great Yeah that's like. Gotcha Kevin Spacey. Move coming out in your. Don't talk about Kevin Spacey. Want to Kevin. If you're listening. I'm sorry Yeah we love you we will keep our name out of your fucking mouth a we will keep your name out of our Kevin Space. He was out there talking about us. I Picture Kevin Spacey Actually doing that. Southern voice all the time how. He's brain rinker voice. Yeah Yeah like his brain does not work at all right yeah. It's not a sympathy thing but I can imagine that everything that's happened is entire life being being ruined A. It's not is brain can't handle it most likely and he's just an order -verting into this role. It's very weird. Yeah one of the weirder. Things I heard is Damian Lewis. One time. I heard him doing interview while he was in season. He's in for a show billions. I think and he was speaking. You know American English and people were like why are you talking that way and he was like well I have to. Because I can't he he was like I'm just not a good enough actor to switch in and out so if I put on my American accent I need to like keep it for a while which to me seems psychopathic. That's crazy easy. But that makes sense though. I think I don't know whenever I've done like little bits of voice over here and there I do. I mean it's not all day or anything like that but for I don't WanNa stop until I'm totally done reading realize bit that I need to read so I can kind of stay in that voice kind of makes sense to me. So what are your thoughts Dave on everything. That's going on in Iraq at are various proxy wars with with Iran. I the thing that I want to know is what do trump voters like half to do what they what hoops to jump through to. You know to accept what he's doing and what he's getting into and to them. I'm glad you asked that because it gives me another chance to bring up this thing where where that I talk about. Sometimes I think that this week where we're getting to see it a lot. which is this like non transferability of the cachet that he has with his people? Where the I'd I say that to say this right? His son is Released a book which is like triggering snowflake liberals your your your lame and gay or something after what. It's yeah but and then also Nikki Haley. Who has been like more of a trump aligned in a former former governor of South Carolina? Who went on to be representative of the In the United Nations she and she gets talked about got a lot as a future presidential candidate just like Donald Trump. Junior does As a future presidential candidate There was a story about. There's sort of dueling. They put they put out a book recently and their dueling book sales now any anytime. Somebody makes the point that anytime one of the trump's puts out a book. Tens of thousands of copies are being purchased by the trumps to make sure that it goes right up the list. which is that's actually thing that a lot of organizations that it's not just unique to the trump's trump's almost any conservative group that puts out a book they they they put they do a reserve hold of like ten fifteen thousand of them just to put them at the top of the New York Times bestseller so that for the next run they can slap a sticker that says New York Times Bestseller? And that's a pretty normal. It's not even weird like like. That's the thing that people do. Yeah that's just the thing that people do Anybody that has any kind of money behind their their their and then they just use the book a giveaway. And it's all just a fucking right offer something but my point is that Nikki Haley and Donald Trump junior representing two ends of the conservative -servative spectrum. The far I don't even know if you call it far right but like the sort of Maggot Culture War Guy in Don Jr. and then the sort I like austerity fiscal policy USA Gemini More housebroken Nikki. Haley type on on the other side. Neither one of them by connection with trump are getting any uplift with any of their feature ambitions like the people who loved Donald Trump. Just love him and they don't love Funke they don't love his sons. Maybe a few of them do but not really they. Don't love You know jared Kushner the no they really don't like him Li like his his cash as non-transferable Fergal. It's him and only him and maybe that'll change in the future. Maybe like maybe one of the kids will do something that makes that makes uh that Monolithic Group of trump supporters. Feel the same way about them they do about the god king right but it right now. I don't think they do. It's hard and yeah so to your question about like well okay. How what? Kind of mental gymnastics. So they have to do. They don't have to do any. They just sit there they just follow. That's all they do is follow. It doesn't matter what he does right thing that he's doing then it's fine. It doesn't matter matter. I remember every once in awhile. There'd be things like I mean the the first time that he dropped the What was it the MOAB mother of all bombs in like middle of nowhere in Afghanistan there was a whole bunch of You know more prominent online trump supporters. That came out and they were like the Anti War are Anti Interventionist Libertarian right-wing That were like no no. This is not going to go over well for you. This is not why we supported you. I guess what he'd lost zero support is people were still. Therefore they're fine with it and Yeah I. It's it's going to be like that. Everything that you think is going to be a contradiction. Everything that do you think is going to be viewed as hypocritical. It doesn't matter if he's doing it. Then that's the thing that they'll support. That's exactly why I read. It sucks but that's exactly why it's become so difficult to stay engaged lately because it's like you know if if nothing matters than nothing matters others you know what I mean right. Yeah I think that people were like worried that we were GONNA end up in this like you know you heard a lot of history onyx and pro clutching about the facts. Won't matter anymore and up we'll be down right we'll be left and you know all that and it's not really the way it's GonNa be it's more just going to be like nobody gives a fuck and it's and it's it's not like it's not going to be where everybody was worried about. This sort of high minded literary manipulation or loss of fidelity in the world around us where like the like the trees will literally melts into the ground because our understanding of the planet around us will no longer function servants purpose. That's not what's going to happen it's just going to. It's going to be smaller and dumber than that at all. It's going to be a million small dumb thing right right. It is dumb thing. Yeah so I I just think about I feel. Trump is like the fourth or fifth most important character her in everything. That's going on with Iran. I this country has wanted to go to war with Iran for over forty years. And it's like the the thing that I thought what was that. This is like if pep you actually caught the cap and was able to like pin it down and rape it like this is what this is what it would be like if you like for forever it. This is the coyote finally caught the roadrunner. Like this is the thing thing that we've always wanted and were finally able to do. What what what what about you what were you doing? I was going to just bring up. I don't know if you if you saw This morning I forget who it was. That reported this but I guess. spotify just overtook apple podcasts. As the number one podcast client which is but. That doesn't mean that people are using spotify more though. I know I do believe. That's what it means Apple. PODCASTS fucking sucks. It's it's terrible mortgage our families who Who reported it twenty four percent? Now it's just a survey okay. So I guess that doesn't necessarily one hundred percent mean anything real. I thought I thought it was too. I just brought it up. It's just a survey but twenty four percent of podcast listeners. Use spotify twenty one percent. Use Apple podcasts on this survey but still I mean that is a pretty shocking finding I think just any in any survey that that would be higher than have podcast. It seems like Apple Pie. Cash should be number one by a mile above everything else. I don't use is it simply. That's what most people use. Its in the name and they just revamped it too. Yeah they revamped it and they made it. They rolled it out onto computers and as an APP instead of just like a part of it tunes and it sucks though. I mean it's superglue itchy. It takes forever to update it. Crashes half of the time yeah. It's gotten worse in the last six months twelve months too bad APP. Apple's not good when it comes to standalone software like they're they're fine when it comes to implementing a whole bunch of stuff together but like individual APPs suck how about how about Louis Warren Dancing onstage with Houlihan Castro. That can't happen to see that. Did the Abbott happened yesterday. Pretty pretty terrible kit. Can I just say if we get another Puerto Rican. Sorry we get another Hispanic person to to run for president in the next cycle. Can it please be a Caribbean person can fucking dance. Can we please be somebody with the little bit of fucking rhythm and I mean no offense within Castro but like come on man. You're you're not. You're not doing proud and like with without part of your game charter to better do better. That's what it comes down to what else they see their artificial humans at CBS. Dave you know anything about it really. Yeah because Gina saw one. Are you serious. Be seeing an article right now. I get you gotTa send it to me so I could tour. She told me that she saw somebody at one of the events that she was photographing and she was like. That person doesn't looks like a real person and she thought she was just being mean or this Mashal at CAS in Las Vegas. I came face to face faced with What I instantly recognized as verts? They weren't called that of course star labs the Samsung Base Back Company. That launched human skin creations to great great fanfare Tuesday prosaically called them artificial humans but each one each one had a name and a personality and an ethnicity a job that they were demonstrating on a human size. Yeah this is actually. This is pretty. These are pretty convincing Brockman. These actually look like a lot like humans. There's no like what do you call it verse. Yeah they call them verts. This is not like that Uncanny valley thing. It's listen no this these actually look like people. Just it's pretty fucking scary. I just sent you the link but Yeah that's that's creepy. Is People look like people. You made a a person out of you. Know what congratulations to these guys. I made a person using nothing. But my how about that. You soclean science. Good Luck David. They say half a billion animals are dead in Australia. How how visit me? That's terrible. Yeah mostly every Koala that's ever existed is just crisp dead. Now how's that how's that make you feel good you. He liked that you enjoy that. What you're saying you got me laughing at the most awful thing the worst like I can't believe you're laughing at the idea of Hoskins of like a mother? Koala holding her baby. And you're laughing at that. There's one baby Koala left. It's just rubble of death of with its parents and Love Pixar movie where this one touches intouch mother's face and it just crumble but you think that that's funny the mom by going to die the real show. I was going to mention one other stupid. Good thing with the world that word and I'm talking about dumb shit but Regal cinemas just announced today that they are switching being from Coca Cola products to Pepsi products. And ooh that means mountain dew it does mean mountain dew fucking sugar slurping Shit but oh yeah diet coke is. I'm not the one that brought. This coke is the best beverage to go with the movie. And I so mad at Regal I. I hate them. All I can say is that I'm very glad that you're marginalized person who's never going to be in charge of anything because you if you were would immediately enforce your own Your your your own preferences on everybody. Well that's the way that life is supposed to work isn't isn't that what power is now. Thought what America is Dave. It's about choice. Oh have coke and Pepsi by all means. That's wonderful awful. I Love I love. Not that kind of choice choices lungs. It's with one of two monolithic brands. You can pick one of these two enormous monolithic brands that control every bit every ounce of liquid that goes in your you know if Pepsi wanted to sponsor piecing it together. I tell him to go fuck themselves. Well there was like a there was a company that I used to work for. I I didn't work for this this company. It's a huge fast food chain but I worked in the building and And I worked. I worked for them. I wasn't an employee but I worked for them and ASSHOLE WHO's in charge of operations and he would like complain every once in a while and send out like an email to the whole company and be like. Don't let me catch you coming in with like other fast. Food company branded things right like. Don't bring starbucks in here. Don't bring like Wendy's in here. Don't bring Chick-fil-a in here shit like that and my comeback to that was always like I would come in with with with my Frappuccino now and into the into the office and they'd be like ou they're going to get angry you and I would say you know what. Tell them to make a fucking Frappuccino that doesn't suck ball and then I'll go buy it from them but until then guess. What starbucks is the people to go to? That's choice right there. That's being Americans right. That's living living our culture and our value you know starbucks went up in price like thirty cents for event is coffee. Do that every once in a while real sneak. Yeah real sneaky. They'll just like drop it in there and you don't even notice. Wasn't it a little less before and I also love how airport starbucks are just a solid seventy three cents mark. You know that. They figured out what Stoller airports here okay is that just what's most sense. We could add on and they won't notice. Yeah yeah no somebody put that put that really well once. I remember somebody was talking. About how like Papa. John's is this is perfect. Example or all. Those pizza places are a perfect example of capitalism capital at work where it's like. What is the least amount of cheese that people will Except Yeah and still call it a pizza. Let's hit that point and then figure out where else we can shave around the margins and profitability. That actually just every single thing that comes bigger than like I don't know what's the threshold of one hundred one hundred location. How how many how many chick-fil-a plays are there? Maybe five thousand three thousand a thousand. I don't I have no idea whatever at some point it becomes garbage because the people who are in charge it becomes big enough that the people were in charge aren't just chicken cooks and pizza. Makers it's private equity here private capital guys. Who are like no no no? We're wasting money by by making good we can make it semi-good and make way more money. Or how about this Fella's we could make it outright shitty and make a lot a lot of money and then it's like that happens. The worst one the worst category sandwiches. Oh yeah every sandwich place gets fucking fucking horrible over the course choose. Subway used to be so good so we actually was pretty fucking good food when I was a teenager in the ninety ain't now it's like a punch line it's like the thing you compare sunshine. It's like the bad version of something. Yes subway is like telling a joke where you like. Were the the the the person in the joke ends up. Either you know getting mugged or race or something and it's it's at us. Oh I've never heard that joke talk to my great big book of You guys can find it on. Amazon is accused great. Big Book of subway. Rape jokes no but like there's a Vegas Sandwich shop which actually might be. They actually might be more than just vegas but port of subs. Port of subs is another example of like a sandwich shop that used to be great and is now just garbage. Quiz knows the classic example. I used to love quiz knows when in like I don't know early. Two thousand prisoners went really downhill like four or five years ago. I walked walked into a quiz knows. I hadn't been in years because most of them are closed. I think what into quiz knows ordered the thing that I used to always get and it was just like a jelly slop of trash trash and I was like swapped allows. I'm not eating that and didn't even need. It was looked like pure garbage. Like it just got BARF DUB and I was like an and all of the sandwiches that were coming out of the the little toaster. Look that way and Tom. What do I look like? Rest in peace to metro diner by the way. Yeah Yeah. Isn't that a a Florida chain. I don't know I think it is but I They closed all their vegas locations. I Love I love Metro Dave any other news. Can we come to this week short. I'm tired of talking to you. I think we could cut it sure. There's nothing wrong you know we. We just did that parasite episode. That was around thirty something something. I'm there's nothing wrong with the podcast that stays just a little over thirty. It's it's perfectly fine all right by everyone by guys we were just signed off like that by lane and.

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Fri. 11/01  Warrens Plan to Pay for Medicare for All

Election Ride Home

17:47 min | 1 year ago

Fri. 11/01 Warrens Plan to Pay for Medicare for All

"Welcome to the election. Ride home for Friday November. I twenty nineteen. I'm your host Chris Higgins the summary of Election News Today Warren Releases her plan to fund into Medicare for all a new poll of Iowa. That's everyone's hair on fire. The trump impeachment stuff in three minutes or less time it's a lot less checking in on Castro's self-imposed fundraising deadline and how to have fun looking at electoral betting markets. Here's what you missed today from the campaign trail This morning Senator Elizabeth Warren released a detailed policy. Plan to pay for Medicare for all as with many of orange proposals us. When was posted to medium it's titled Ending The stranglehold of Healthcare costs on American families and it is very long medium estimated? Sit at a thirty-seven minute. Read and my quick count puts it at more than nine thousand words. PATs about thirty printed pages point being going to have to look at this through the lens ends of summary And if you're curious about the deep deep details go look at those show notes up top. I have the actual policy which is very readable despite being really along. And then there's a series of media explainers hatred which is also long also one procedural note. Warren uses a bunch of experts in healthcare matters was to arrive at her figures here so when I say Warren in terms of a spending estimate or a cost estimate or whatever. I really mean Warren and her team of experts. It's worth looking at that team listed in the policy to get a sense of the deep bench there. It even includes the guy who ran medicare for the Obama Administration. And that's just one person on the team okay. The plan has two major parts. They happened to echo the two questions I ask every policy proposal I how much much will this cost and second. How do you propose to pay for it? The first thing is really important. You have to understand the cost of Medicare for all plan versus. This is the current health spending. We do today. If that figure is out of whack. The whole exercise is meaningless so in that cost section Warren starts with an estimate commit provided by the urban institute which puts the overall cost of a single payer system like Medicare for all at fifty nine trillion dollars over ten years and that's seven seven trillion dollars more than projected to pay for the current system in part because if you remove copays and deductibles and stuff like that people tend to actually go to the doctor her and use healthcare when they need it but Warren looks at that estimate and differs on many key factors that go into it i. She emphasizes the efficiencies that a single single payer program would gain in terms of administrative costs. Warren pegs that cost at the rate that Medicare single payer program pays right now with that change she would save one point eight trillion dollars on the cost side. Now here saying that's less than what the urban institute the estimated on drug prices. Warren is more aggressive than the estimate as well and more than doubles their estimate for savings on brand name drugs that saves another other one point seven trillion dollars. Next up is the amount we pay doctors for their services here again. Warren is more aggressive than the estimate but not by much approach here. She shaves off another six hundred billion dollars but keeps those prices. Ten percent higher than the current Medicare payment rates. There are more key places where Warren shaves off dollars. But in the end she arrives at a total cost of fifty two trillion dollars over ten years that happens to be the the seam figure projected by the urban institute. If we just leave the system as is with the expected changes coming over that ten year period. Okay so we've got a cost figure fifty two trillion bucks. So how does Warren suggests we pay for that well. This is also painfully complex. And it's a very good reason to go read. read either the plan or maybe an explainer both of which lay out the precise details but basically big picture warren takes the existing US government spending on healthcare including state and local spending and pushes it all over into the Medicare for all column then she takes the employer contributions. That's what your company pays pays for. Its share of your healthcare knocks two percent off of it and instead has the company pay that to the federal government large companies are already required to pay. Hey for this under the obamacare system so that change makes a lot of sense. That part is simple and big and gives you the great majority of the money you would need for this program but then comes what vox calls the grab bag. It's a bunch of taxes and fees and moving stuff around for instance reading from as reclines piece in vox quote. Americans currently spend three point seven trillion dollars paying their share of employer provided health insurance. It's premiums that money left in their wallets becomes taxable adding one point four trillion dollars. Warren proposes a financial transactions nations tax of zero point one percent of the value of every stock bond or derivatives transaction. That raises eight hundred billion dollars. Then she adds a systemic risk fee on financial institutions with more than fifty billion dollars in assets. That's another one hundred billion dollars and quote. Okay that's the first two bullets in a list of seven that constitutes a grab bag the others include some real whoppers. One of those is increasing racing warrants wealth tax on billionaires from three percent all the way up to six percent on assets over one billion dollars so yes that that is a six percent annual tax on assets over a billion dollars. Now that is a major bummer for the billionaires but then again it raises as a staggering one trillion dollars over ten years so added to the grab bag. Another item in there is funding. IRS enforcement spent. This is a really obvious win that in my humble opinion we should be spending on anyway. Warren estimates that better funding the IRS to track down tax payments gets US and other two point three trillion dollars in tax revenue. This is because people are getting really good at dodging taxes and the IRS doesn't have a ton the money for audits. No more says the grab bag there is more in that grab bag. Including a very brief mention of how comprehensive immigration reform would create create a larger tax base which in turn will generate another four hundred billion dollars in new taxable income over that decade long period with all that math accounted for. Warren does manage to pay for all of the projected spending and she does it without raising taxes on the middle class now she does substantially stanchly raised taxes on the wealthy especially the billionaires. She also raises taxes on businesses. But if you're looking for middle class taxes here I'm not seeing them nor are any of the articles. I read about this today. All right I'm going to close out this segment with bit that Warren put up top in her policy which is a statement of values. I I think that is important in understanding how the candidate frames the policy overall which helps us to understand why this gigantic effort has gone into defining the super specific funding plan. Plan quote. All my plans start with our shared values. There are two absolute non-negotiables when it comes to healthcare one no no no American should ever ever die or go bankrupt because of health care costs no more gofundme campaigns to pay for care. No more rationing Xinning Insulin. No more choosing between medicine and groceries to every American should be able to see the doctors they need and get their recommended treatments without having to figure out who is in network no for profit insurance companies should be able to stop anyone from seeing the expert or getting the treatment they we need. Health care is a human right and we need a system that reflects our values. That system is Medicare for all. Let's be clear. America's America's medical professionals are among the best in the world. Healthcare in America is world class Medicare for all isn't about changing aging any of that end quote. Do next up today. The New York Times released a poll conducted by CNN college focusing on Iowa voters he covered one of these last week in the big news there. The Mayor Pete. Buddha judge was looking very strong in second place with Warren in I well first off a methodology note. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus four point seven percentage points and it focuses on Iowa Democratic caucus goers. Only all right. So here's the big headline for first choice in Iowa. Warren Warren remains in first place with twenty two percent sanders is right behind at nineteen percent. Blockage is right behind. Eighteen percent and Biden in is also right behind at seventeen percent. Nobody else makes double digits in this poll with those numbers twenty to nineteen eighteen in and seventeen then looking at the margin of error. That's getting pretty close to five percent. Those top four candidates are within the margin of one another. It's arguable that Yeah Biden in zero point three percent outside of that margin but he's in the pack they're all in the pack and trying to draw deep distinctions out of one percent. Differences is not going to be super a useful at this point now. Iowa has a special love for second choices within a caucus people often do have to move over to their second choice. Ace Okay. So how is that looking. Well if you add first and second choices together for those top four candidates the order is actually the same warren gets. It's forty-seven percent. Sanders gets thirty. Four Percent Buddha judge gets thirty one percent and Biden gets twenty eight percent. Now look before we all flip out too much coach about any of these results most notably the idea that in yet another early voting state Biden is in fourth place. Here is another very notable statistic revealed by this poll according to Alexander Burns writing for the Times quoted two thirds of likely caucus goers in the Times poll said they could still. It'll be persuaded to change their minds and quote so this reveals at least three ways to read this poll one way is simply. Hey Look at how Warren still has the top spot. Sanders remains as strong as ever. Huda judge is surging and Biden is kind of lagging. That's a legitimate simple way to look at it. Another way to look at it is yeah. We're in that wacky season right before Iowa votes in which two-thirds of its voters still claim to be persuadable. This is a massive opportunity for Movement for all of these campaigns. In other words we have no idea what's really going to happen here. And and for the third way out reporter Dave Weigel of the Washington Post writing on twitter. He points to Buddha judges having an edge here quote. It's Iowa where any campaign that's this dominant as a second choice is formidable. Warren is in danger of more Harris etc voters beginning to prefer for Buddha judge as their safety and quote so with ninety something days left until that vote candidates will be on the ground doing everything in their power more to persuade those two-thirds of persuadable voters next up a summary of the impeachment proceedings in three minutes or less today. I'm aiming for last because Congress is in recess over the past week. We've heard that both Charles Kupperman woman and John Bolton who share a lawyer have filed legal objections to clarify whether they have to follow a White House rule preventing their testimony or a house so representatives rule requiring it well judge has been assigned and that judge will hear arguments on December tenth about the cases the judge also who says he plans to rule quickly. Now why does this matter well. Two reasons first boldness scheduled to appear next week. But there's no way he's actually going to give them this legal stuff and second. It's yet more evidence of why this impeachment proceeding in the House could push way way longer than previously expected. Did if that decision doesn't even happen until mid to late December. I don't see how the house realistically wraps this up. Until maybe January at the best their other option is essentially to bail on people who won't sit for interviews and just move on with what they've got anyway. Yesterday Tim Morrison who has a High High Level National Security Council official testified before the House. His testimony reportedly confirmed much of the whistleblower complaint though Morrison suggested he didn't think the call itself was illegal and then he left his post at the White House to be replaced by somebody else at the moment it's unclear whether he quit or was fired. Meanwhile Adam Schiff. Who was chairman of the House? Intelligence Committee said that transcripts of the various interviews conducted could be released as early as next two week when those transcripts. Come out whether it's next week or later. Expect a new flood of analysis on details. We haven't previously heard in the immortal. No words of Samuel L. Jackson Jurassic Park. Hold onto your butts you back on October twenty second reported that Houlihan Castro announced his need for eight hundred thousand dollars by October thirty first which was of course yesterday. Hey now I watched his twitter account leading up to the show yesterday and he had not made that goal by the time I headed into the booth so that was a little troubling earlier earlier this week Castro announced that his campaign was about eighty percent of the way to its goal. They proceeded to set up a phone. Bank operation dubbed the Castro call a thon that reportedly involved more more than ten thousand phone calls the span of two hours. After that effort the team had made progress but still had not crossed the finish line. Okay so how did it all turn turnout. Did Castro managed to raise the money yesterday afternoon. Short answer yes. Though it does appear to be a bit of a squeaker the campaign said it received more than than one million dollars in the entirety of October and said Castro would remain in the campaign. Meanwhile Castro has zero of the required four polls for either the November or December. DNC debates so. That would be the next thing for him to work on Last today quick item that I just thought was fun. If you go to election betting odds dot com you'll see an average bridge of several other betting sites odds on various political things. You know like who might win the primaries or the presidency overall or whatever and yeah it is is legal in the US to bet on this stuff and no. I do not recommend it. I do not do it. But here's the fun part. There are people apparently a statistically significant different number of them out there placing bets for fun. So here's how you have fun with these sites you go to the website. You Scroll all the way to the bottom looking at the bottom right now. According to this site Dwayne the Rock Johnson currently has zero point one percent betting odds of winning the whole thing becoming becoming President in the two thousand twenty election. So if you WANNA make truly extreme bet I mean you know be my guest. The payout would be shocking now now personally I would put his odds a little lower than zero point one percent but I gotTa say the Rock Twenty Twenty or the Rock Twenty twenty four or even just dwayne Wayne Johnson for president does have a certain ring to it right. I mean I support his position on saving his family from disastrous earthquakes in California so at least he has that issue totally solved. Well that is it for one more episode of the election ride. Home I have been your host Chris Higgins always find me on twitter at Chris Higgins how shall we round out this big week of news maybe by talking about candy as is our usual tradition. My wife and I turned off all the lights and Dan retreated from the neighbor children hiding behind a big scary hedge and watching an episode of survivor in the dark. It was a good episode. No spoilers and today I am proud proud to say I have no leftover candy because there was no candy to start with. There's probably be some kind of classic proverb about that but I couldn't find one

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Jillian Freeland (livestream)

Two Broads Talking Politics

22:23 min | 9 months ago

Jillian Freeland (livestream)

"This episode of two brads talking politics with Colorado. Congressional candidate Jillian freeland originally aired as a video livestream. You can still catch video on facebook twitter and on our youtube channel, he can find all those links on our website to broad talking politics, dot com, and if you enjoy video live streams, we will be bringing you election coverage on election night starting at six PM Eastern in collaboration with electorate and Muller. She wrote you don't WanNa. Miss It. Hi, everyone out in social media or youtube world. This is the super exciting, very first livestream for two broads talking politics. So brand new technology that we are trying out here and are very willing Guinea pig for this is Jillian Free Lynch so high Chilean. Hope everybody everybody's doing well trying to adapt to life and times of Kobe Ed. Yeah Yeah. So we talked about little last month ago on the PODCAST. and. So people can check out that as well. A been some big developments in your race since that time starting with you were endorsed by Houlihan Castro and I gather got to hang out with him today. I did. Yeah. They they gave us a bison said Hey we're touring your great state and if any of this is close to you please come by. So I went on down to Colorado which actually. We have redistricting coming up across the nation, and it's likely that Pueblo will become part of Colorado's fifth district south like heck. Yeah. Come down and visit had you know share our it is visit everybody ride with Biden on Saturday Castro is just A wonderful human, and so every opportunity to speak with him I, try to get where he is. So that was really neat and I brought my mommy. which she's actually really shy the whole concept of Campaigning is very foreign to her and she's definitely been a very important part of the team. This last month she has come in and helped our our family a lot because we have a kindergartener who is online schooling, which is through challenging and I know that that's something that a lot of parents have taken on and. We're out here. Yeah well and They've said that now that the second quarter is starting, a lot of parents have actually decided that it's too much and they are going to go ahead and send their kids in and it really makes me appreciative a teacher. And the struggles that they face and the work that they do, and unfortunately here in Colorado, we pay a pittance. Honestly I don't know how people pay their bills and their student loans and feed themselves with what we pay Colorado teachers to start in I am connected to a lot of local candidates that are running for the State House in the State Senate and I am confident that they are going to take big steps to make sure that education I both you know meets the needs of the communities but also pay the teachers what they're worth only Toledo what hardware can people and we should. Pony Up. Yeah definitely. So you are running in Colorado Fifth Congressional district currently represented by a Republican and we talked last time we talked about you know this has been a Republican district on paper at least but you've done a great job with fundraising. So so talk to me a little bit about that in the momentum and energy that you're seeing in this race. It's kind of odd spiring because I'm just a regular Gal and thousands of people have contributed to this campaign and I think that's because our country is actually headed in the right direction. This trump administration has been terrifying and welcome a lot of folks up. We're seeing huge numbers of people voting early and that momentum. was reflected in our fundraising not only did I- outrace congressman born last quarter but also my money came from people not from packs. When you look at his funding I mean the man needs a nascar jacket you know. It's all like t mobile and. A bunch of Tech Company is and I do encourage you all. And I'M GONNA show my nerd here for a second get on to your state or the Federal Election Commission's web sites and really look at where the money comes from the people that are representing you because. Just. It's just hard cold data in this country in ninety percent of the races whoever fund races the most wins. I'll just let that sink in with you for a second. And so People have really stepped up and fuelled this campaign, and because of that, we outraged Doug last quarter we still have less money than him because you know someone who's been enough I mean he's he's been in Colorado in federal politics for twenty five years now and and so his packs you know they know when it's time to cut that check and coke industries regularly steps up you know lots of extraction industry isn't tech. Companies. International. Law firms in those aren't the people that he represents. You know. The the folks here in Colorado really. They just want to hear from him and be able to speak to him and it's clear from his fundraising. He actually talks to and it's not people in the district and so so I am honored and excited by those fundraising numbers and to show my nerd little bit more this district has changed a lot in the last four years you know the the first two years of the trump administration saw a slight shift toward unaffiliated voters they the majority by about fifteen hundred in twenty eighteen. Affiliated voters are the majority by thirty, four, thousand voters now. So, this district isn't a monolith. And it needs somewhat represent it that. Recognize this how important diversity is and that is our strength as a nation and as a district. Stating. As my opponent Congressman Land, where does the you only represent a certain segment of the district? That's hurting all of us and you know we all have much more in common than we have different. We all have people we care about we. We. Just want to make a living and feed our kids and loved ones and especially now in the midst of this make when people are struggling. Way need representatives who are in that class of people who are struggling and we've been have been fortunate. My husband has been in a work at home position for several years now, and so it hasn't been a big upheaval for us but family across the nation are grappling with. Shifting to a telecommuting model or having lost their jobs altogether small business owners are struggling and. We need people in office who have faced that not people who have been insulated by cushy pension and you know family inheritance. Trump. So. So you mentioned that the that's such a shocking stat, the the people who raise more money win. So frequently, why is some Y.? Is that what what do you use as a candidate? Would you use fundraising dollars for what could that mean for you in these final ten days if if some of the people watching this should step up and give a little bit. I mean even volunteer activities it takes funds behind that. So a lot of people right now are texting and calling. An those technology pieces, the information that feeds those technology pieces, this cost US money. The most what I think it's tied now for software and Technology Subscriptions and staff. Because I have two little girls there are two and five and childcare has been a really significant expense, and in fact, this is one of the ways that simply running for office has revolutionized federal elections because there's an amazing woman, her name is Luba Shirley. She ran for the House and she petitioned the Federal Election Commission to be able to use campaign funds for childcare and we're a single income family. and. So me being able to pay for childcare through the campaign was absolutely correct like I could not have done this without debt and because I try to walk the walk I pay my staff, a living wage at the lowest wage on my campaign staff is sixteen dollars an hour, and that's because I know what it costs to live in this community and and. We're also a union campaign. Because unions built the middle class and they give employees of voice within their workplaces and honestly you as an employer it protects me as well because it gives us the processes to make sure you know if something happens we have really clearly laid out a way to get justice for the employee and the employer and having those unions there to to act that negotiating helpful force. It's something that value in the trades and in every I mean, nurses are a unionized. You know the all of these segments of our society have benefited from unionization and my my opponent included a lot of Republican legislators are Anti Union and and the thing is unions increase wages they improve safety in the workplace. They are the difference between getting good healthcare, a healthcare plan that is a piece of paper that doesn't actually help you with anything. And so we wanted to communicate through our campaign how much we valued unions by unionizing. So we're actually the only unionized congressional campaign in the state. Yeah I'm real for that and plus you know I love my union guys and they have been very supportive of local efforts to return power to the people they frequently. You know for people over the last few years have said, sure us our space organize and the grassroots energy in this community and across the nation is off inspiring. When I call voters these days for God, your Third Call I've gotten today say well, you know you turn on your ballot we'll stop. Golly. So I mean it's it's challenging to campaign in these times. By really walking the walk by taking good care of our employees. I've been able to build a team. That has adopted really well to try to campaign in times of COVID. is so on top of the staffing costs and we've got the software that keeps track of Yahoo we've talked to and who already turned in their ballot we send emails to people we call people, we tax people, we left thousands of pieces of literature at Doors, and of course, all of these things cost money. and. So I recently read a statistic that they're going to be about eleven billion dollars spent on this election cycle that. I mean the mom me can't help but think how many dinners that is for a family of four. and so changing the way we conduct our elections is very high on my list of priorities and the fact that you know my opponent Congressman lambourn can have four hundred grand in the bank because packs from that have companies around the world have ponied up for him. That's a sign of an unhealthy election system and high truly believed that people would be better served by publicly funded election system there should be. No fundraising calling mean Donald Trump talked about this years ago that he gives to political candidates because he knows that later if he gives them a call, they will answer that phone and that's that's corruption I'm like. And you know look up corruption in the dictionary they're probably extra donald trump. If there is an yet, there should be. Merriam Webster? Right. So, following up on the sort of how you value stop in and how you think about that a congressman lambourn had his staff members test positive for Kobe. Did you know what? How do you think how do you take that sort of thinking about how to treat and care for staff during a campaign and then translate that to a if you are in Congress as congresswoman, how you'll think about your congressional staff and making sure that they are as healthy as supported as possible? Well. Unfortunately. been endemic to the Republican Party and their staff to not take appropriate safety measures and one of the things that I frequently remind people we don't question why a surgeon wears a mask in an operating room. It's because it reduces the transmission of disease and so I find Republican. Administrations resistance to wearing a mask incredibly irresponsible and dishonest. And it's really unfortunate that that partisanship has crept into basic health and safety measures. and. So when his staff tested positive. I guess back up a little bit. You assume that people who work in an office are there because they believe in the ideals of the Legislature And so these aren't people who are Parson hacks who are looking to destroy his career and they actually reached out to local reporters that because they were concerned, they were a apparently told not to inform their roommates that they may have been exposed to covid. and. For one thing that's just bad contact racing. It's irresponsible. For another, the congressman at that time went through contact tracing for one thing he had been in the office enough for the physician to say, Oh, you've been expose, which has its own whole thing but additionally, he denied that contact tracing to people who live with his staff members and potentially put their lives at risk because I mean. When we look at the data, we know that know people with preexisting conditions and folks older age demographics are the most at risk. But. We can't have truly excellent data and Anna solid understanding of how this disease is transmitted without the data. That contact tracing is every thing and when we look at other nations, I mean New Zealand just as like one of my personal heroes. Day We're really logical in very aggressive in localized quarantines and guess what? They haven't had community transmission in months, and because of that, they're not social distancing they can go to rallies they don't need to wear masks and I. Recognize that wearing a mask to the grocery store isn't for us that it's not the most comfortable ever. Experienced but. We're in this together. And we have to look out for our communities for our neighbors for GRANDMAS and Grandpas for the people that we don't even know have underlying health conditions. This is just being a good human and so please do folks where your masks. Virus does not care whether you are Republican. Democrat Libertarian Unity not registered to vote. It just is out there and it's hurting people I. Mean we have lost nearly two hundred, twenty, thousand Americans at this point and we are on an upswing, and so I just urge everyone your the power is with you wear a mask if you have to go out stay home if you don't and why should Dang hands I mean if you need a tutorial, my five year old is a total boss. Get. fingernail between all the fingers she can teach you. So just hit me up. I'll get her facetime Austria. I love it. I love it. All right. So we've got ten days left ten very quick days that I'm hoping they fly by you're probably not. What. Can people do to to help out your campaign in those final ten days? I mean fundraising is always an issue and I've mentioned by discomfort with fundraising I hate calling people and asking for money. And and so if you are hearing this message or if you've received an email or even if you're just looking for, you don't someone who has background in healthcare to write health policy Kicking in a few bucks really does make a difference and I joke a lot about being a coupon clipper is that woman who will stand and wait for the manager to come for my seventy five cents? I operate this campaign this way, and that's how I'll legislators. Well, I am going to squeeze every penny because I recognize that legislators are spending other people's Money I. Take that really seriously, and I will work every day to make sure that that money is used responsibly and that it gets to the places that need the most So you can go to the website it's Gillian freelance dot com. That's where you can contribute. There's a little button at the top. You can also sign up to volunteer their. We are doing phone banking, and we will have one more round of texting to go out. So after bag let us know. And You know most importantly talk to the people in your community. Now, that person to person interaction with someone you know is going to be the most meaningful and impactful and I think that the reason we got to this place that our government is so unhealthy and that we struggling to even talking to members of our family is because we've lost some of those skills and so have those hard conversations. If you think you'RE GONNA lose it take a deep breath before you say something else. And and keep having the conversation because change isn't going to happen if we don't all take action and this year voting isn't enough new vote and make sure that your friends vote is well, not they understand what is on the ballot All right Jillian anything else you wanted to make sure we talk about today. Take care of each other I. Beg of you have compassion empathy and just no, we're all struggling and sometimes even taken ten seconds to send a text to somebody can lift them up as they go through a hard day. So just reach out and be gentle with yourself as well. This is hard, but we will get through it and and that refers to both our election and the pandemic. So just stick with it. We're almost through it and Take care of each other. Right and we've got your district on our list of racist to watch and election. Nights. When we? Are Live show So anyone watching this, we're going to do a joint to buds talking politics and the electorate and Muller. She wrote all getting together to do a live show on election night and this is definitely one of the races we're gonNA. Watch. So thank you Jillian. It was great to talk to you again and I. Hope Everyone will check out your website. You're very good putting the sign right behind you. Green the time. Like I've done this before. Excellent. 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Julin Castro, An Unlikely Journey

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Julin Castro, An Unlikely Journey

"Hi, this is Kelly with two brads talking politics. This is the fourth episode of our democratic presidential candidate book club series. You can find all the episodes in this series at two broads talking politics dot com slash book club, or you can find these episodes in our regular feed anywhere podcast. You're found. Are you listening? Heavy body. This is Kelly with two brads talking politics here for our fourth episode in our book club series. Joining me as my co hosts Sophie. Hey Sophie, hey, we're joined once again, by freelance writer caz wider hike has Hello, and by writer and actress, Elizabeth or pilots. How are you great? So today, we are talking about Hooghly on Castro's book, and unlikely journey. So this is, as I mentioned, the fourth of these presidential candidate books, that we're reading you can find the other three books on our website, our discussions about those I and we're gonna keep going for as long as these lovely ladies will keep doing in reading books. So let's just start with kind of overall impressions. What did you all think of this book? So fi lead us, and I didn't get through all of the book it was good. It was interesting. I just didn't think it was like that interesting. I guess I guess I feel like after we've like read all of these memoirs, sorry to feel like a pattern, you know, like people are talking about, you know, here's how I went from being a normal person and everage person to being. Nepal Titian, and here's my bootstrap story. And you know, it seems pretty it was it was interesting, but I didn't quite finish it 'cause I kind of getting a little tired of the formula. I guess Keswick did you think, well, I think, in terms of bootstraps stories. This is a pretty good one. I mean, we're talking about a young man who was raised by a single, mom. And I'm like, you know, I think come a story a lot when, when I read this book mom was pretty well off because she had the skills to have a fairly high paying job. And so I don't know that they had to struggle in the same way. So this, I felt that the story out of the books that we've read so far, and certainly what I know other presidential candidates is really sort of a, how to come from a pretty disadvantaged background and really make something of yourself. I mean, he and his brother story are very. Remarkable in that way. At least. When I was when I started reading it, you know, like, I think a lot of people had compared it to a bama's dreams from my father, and I didn't find it nearly as well written or interesting. I mean, Sophie, I agree with you kind of the same formula, like how I grew up under duress, and tough, circumstances and poverty stricken ever heard. And I you know, I love a good American dream story. And he's certainly is he and his brother are both that way. But it did feel formulaic to me, and it also there's dreams from my father is really, I think Barack Obama's voice and was very you know, personal to him, and he put a lot of energy into that. And I think this kind of felt like maybe it was put together, you know, for the twenty twenty election season, it's interesting that you mentioned through my father because I. Heard the same thing. And I think that's maybe why founded a little disappointing because I had been expecting my father because so many people compared them. But I think I said this an a previous, but club dating I drew for my father is like such a great book that it's really hard to go in thinking that you're gonna get that book, because, you know, I don't think I've read a political or a politician's memoir, quite like. So I think having heard that myself as well. I think it set me up for unrealistic expectations. Maybe right. I don't remember the exact timing of dreams from my father, but that wasn't like a prepping to run for president. He yes, I think so. It might have been Senate. But I don't think it wouldn't. It was. Yep. So all four of these books, we've recently read were sort of explicitly written as and now I'm preparing to run for president. So it may be a little bit. Why they feel somewhat formulaic. I mean, I will say what was interesting about this book for me was, how much of it, he spent on early childhood, you know? You know the book. Yeah. I mean it was like a lot of like, and then we were in third grade. And, you know, a lot more than a lot lot more of sort of the early childhood than we got in the previous three books that we read, you know, a lot less really on the, the things that he's done recently to, to stand out in to be ready to run for president, which in some ways, actually made it really interesting to read for me, but wasn't maybe as good at telling me with this person be a good president. I think too, you know, it makes sense as identical twins who've had very similar careers that, that he includes his brother Joaquin and so much of this book. But it was a lot like at some point you start thinking are we really just electing twins to the presidency? They seem completely tied together in ways that, you know, is really admirable greed. But, you know, on the other hand, it's kinda hard to distinguish the two sometimes even reading one of them writing a book on. I did enjoy, you know, the mothers influence, and the grandmothers life story. And you know how she was the activist into public service that inspire the boys the twins. But at the end of the book, I'm still wondering does he have the policy chops? Like, where's the meat asides emphasizing the role of education and an opportunity in America? I just didn't get a lot of their their you know, it was I my impression is mostly about his difficult upbringing and then, you know, successes at Stanford and Harvard. And you know then forward to the Obama administration and. A cabinet level position. But I'd like to hear more about the policy stuff. Yeah, I agree. And I wonder if my reaction would have been different if I'd read this book before we read, Elizabeth Warren book. A hill like Elizabeth Warren. Book was so good with policy stuff that it's actually one of the things many things did this, but the sort of the push move to, to sort of supporting her as the presidential candidate. I told telling recently I just bought my list with warranty shirt yesterday. But I'm like wondering if I would have been like more into the story of his life. If I'd read that this book, I and not been expecting the same sort of policy chops as a list of Warren's book. It's also true that he's very young. So my always, keep that in mind when I think about this about, you know what we hear most about his life, because he doesn't have the same sort of DUP experience. I guess, to draw from some of the other folks that we've read how although he's older than Buddha. Judge? That's true. All right. So what are some of our favorite moments in the book, 'cause you were telling me Elizabeth about, you know, sort of being grateful to read about his mom not worrying too much about how much TV they watched. Yeah. I think if mom is probably my favorite character hope book, like I would've been happy to read a book just written by her. She's quite amazing. And I understand she had a lot of help. We've got the Gramma here who's probably doing quite a lot of the, the cooking. And this would have dated care, taking a titties, and that kinda freed, mom up to really just encourage the twins and let them go. But I was impressed by how hard she fought to make sure they had the right upper tune ity and how intentional she was about their education. There's a couple of different points in the book where he talks about. Oh, you know, we went to the school in Calcutta fight really hard to get into this other school, and it like they're hopping around school every other year. My his mom only had a really good reason. And she wouldn't trying to leverage them into better opportunities, and I was consistently impressed with how hard she worked to make sure that they were not at a disadvantage for what they wanted to do. My kids were fighting yesterday. So I have two boys who are not twins but they were they were fighting yesterday. And you know, getting almost a little fiscal fighting, and I turned my husband and I said, well, you know, Leon Joaquin we're constantly like fist fighting and stuff really. Really? Crates. Maybe we should just let the kids fight. I thought that was interesting that they admitted that to or that he admitted it. Yeah. I really liked the this stuff about, you know, healthy would compete against each other. But then support each other, and it just seemed like such an amazing relationship to have with a sibling, you know, to grow up with that and, and go that far away to college. No, you've got someone there with you. And, you know, so I, I really appreciated that the siblings story, I'll tell you what I could have done without. I could have done without the like lengthy description about his cystic acne when he arrived in Stanford like it's just too much. And I don't know if he's trying to be like ham, regular guy, just like everybody else. But it was just it felt so weird awkward achey. I thought that was so weird. I mean it's several paragraphs long too, and, like have people making quotes about it. It's just it's bizarre. We talked about policy being something. We'd like to have seen more. Are there other things we would have liked to have seen more of in the book? I mean, I would have liked to hear more about him as a parent, you know, I thought because so much of the book was focusing on him as the child, you know, and his mama's, the parent, which was very interesting. But, you know, we got some toward the end of, you know, sort of him being the, the parents of these two kids, but I you know, at that felt sort of just got a little bit of a short shrift, and I would've loved to, to see more of that because it seems like he's a really good dad from the little bit that we got interest. Is that his, his dad was not very present in his life after certain point. And so, I would think that that rule would be particularly inspirational for him to be able to be a father into really be there for his kids in more realistic fashion. But I again, I don't know. I think when his daughter was learned. He was pretty busy, right? Wasn't he wasn't? He just starting his career in congress. So it may be that he actually isn't very in her life, just because of work. I think there's something having lived with my husband to have maybe ambivalent or negative feelings about the parenting received as a child, I think there can be something very painful about parenting, when you didn't have that example of what a good parent is. And so it might be that he just isn't really willing to bring that particular pain into sort of spotlight because it can be very exhausting. And confusing for people who didn't have. That example growing up. I will say appreciated how honest he was about his relationship with his father, and that he didn't try to sugar coat that any way, there, probably a lot of ways he could have been vague about it and worked around. But he was really up front in this book about what happened with his and why he ended up being raised the way that he was. And he does it without making. It seem like heaping -gree about it. It just is what it and I, I appreciate that, about his attitude, right? If only be had addressed to coming out and his marriage like within candor. To we think that we understand things about what kind of president Julio on would be after having read this book. I mean, I feel it. He's the, the candidate that I sort of knew the least amount about going into reading the book. And so I certainly have a better sense of him as a person. I'm not certain whether I have a better sense of what kind of president, he would be, but I don't know how you guys feel about that. I, I agree with that. I think I again, I also didn't have a great idea of who catcher was before. I read this book, I knew a little bit about him, just because he's been sort of a rising star in the Democratic Party for the past few years. But I didn't really know that much about him. And now I feel like I know more about the place he's coming from and the types of perspective that he would be likely to understand. But I don't know that much about what he actually. Wants to do as president, I guess. So I know more than I did. I don't know if much as I would like. I felt like I kind of knew more about him when his name was tossed around and twenty sixteen as possible running mate for Hillary, then I do. Now I know that's weird. I mean, I did have a sense of what kind of president Kamla Elizabeth and Pete would be. But I'm like, there was no it wasn't wrapped up with Bo on it for me at the end, and certainly get the impression he'd be very hard working in embassies. But I didn't you know, even if you get added some meat to the spoke about what was important him as mayor. He, he did talk a lot about education about how his way really helped him pilot that specific program whose name escapes me but he didn't. He didn't really touch upon anything else that he did during his tenure or other things that were important to him or struggles or challenges that he had are even times when he fail. I will say that about mayor Pete's book. I appreciate it. When he talked about, when he did something wrong, and why it failed and what he learned from that, right? We didn't get any of that here. So I think I know he would work hard, but I don't know. I don't know how he would handle things for instance, you know, just immigration policy, even just as a Harding point, I would think that he could be pretty up front and for it about washes perspective, is on that, and he didn't really articulate that in this book at all. I mean, I yeah. I wonder if because it came out last fall, obviously he knew he was going to run. But it's just interesting how they left how he left to kind of ache because just you just think that. He's just an articulate this one, he announces or on his website or through social media and speeches. It's it is interesting that there's not more specifically laid out either failed as this is what I'd like America to do better. Or, you know way, I think I can help this country is why they I mean, maybe this is part of the reason that he's kind of lagging in the poll. Yeah. You know, it's interesting when you said was he gonna spell that out on his website. I spent a lot of time looking at Kennedy websites. And so I've been on his and he does not have an issues section of the website, which I this is not the only candidate like this. He's not alone in this, but I really want them to just have an issue section where they're like, this is how I feel about this, this is how I feel about this and it's, it's not there. I mean, eat other some sense of kind of what the priorities would be with education. In immigration. But, you know, that's not that's not front and center, sort of what he feels on each issue. You know, I think we do at least I got the sense that he would be a pretty compassionate thoughtful president. He seems to think deeply about the things that affect him about, you know how his life circumstances have changed him. There's that great moment when they're in law school at Harvard, and they start this program of four kids, who have never, you know, don't know any lawyers in their life to be mentored by kids who are in law school. You know, at to have that nice relationship. And so, you know, I think he thinks really deeply and wants to help people. So I you know, obviously, I think he'd be a good president in those ways. I think it's mostly the, you know, really laying out policy stances, but that seems to be missing. Right. Yeah. All I know is education. You know, education is important to the other thing, we don't get that much of a is kinda how he'd be as a boss. You know, which is obviously an important piece of being a president. We got that in communists book, certainly. We got that in mayor, Pete's book. I probably not as much as thorns book, but it was so policy heavy, but, you know that doesn't really seem there's not a whole lot of like this is what stuff meetings were, like, when I was a mayor, you know, the that would have been really interesting. He doesn't even talk about campaigning that much. There's some discussion about how the community and family really pulled together and supported him and, and hit the pavement for him and some of the campaigns that he did. But there's a lot of talk beyond the scope of those sort of media intimate relationships about how he interacted with people and folks, that he worked. Closely with beyond his beyond his family. I don't recall. And maybe I just it over my brain. But I don't recall him. Mentioning anyone difficulty by name that has really been a consistent person in his life beyond his family and his his wife. All right. So beyond Elizabeth's, not wanting the story of the acne, or any other things that we really didn't like about the book you know that clearly there's some stuff we feel was missing. But was there anything we didn't particularly like. I mean, I think our silence collective silence. Just goes back to math. It's it doesn't not anybody socks up like it's so it's so bland that nothing really offensive either. You know, I mean, I think if I were the editor for this book, I might have said, you know, the, the growing up stuff is sort of this rich tapestry, and it's I was really into it during that part of the book and a lot of the sort of, and then I was on city council, and then I became a mayor, and then I you know, was leading hood. That's just felt like I gotta talk about this stuff. I mean I, I almost feel like it would have been a better book, if he had just focused on his childhood added that stuff at the end. You know, I mean, especially the, the HUD, part off his resume. Yeah, it felt kind of namedrop e when he was like, well, you know, Brock Obama called me a couple times, and, you know, and then Hillary was thinking about me for. Ep and you know, it's like I don't know. Is that stuff really necessary? We know that part of his resume. If you're picking up the book, you probably know that part. Right. He could also have done that there's a certain approach where you can take some of those really interesting stories from your childhood, and you can threat those through some of those stories through to show them as inspirations or samples of a belief that you have our values that you have that somehow translate since policy comic book with a little bit like that. And it was with warned that few times as well too. I think so. I don't think it had to be organized the way that it was, it was very chronologically organized. And when he got to the end he was like, all right. Let's just finish this. And I think to speak to your point you know, as an editor what I might have done this. That, hey, this is a great story. So how does this connect to other parts of your life and let make that the basis of this chapter rather than just telling us in chronological way, that probably would have worked better? Yeah. That makes sense. You know, I think part of this might be just these people must have little time to work on these books, you know, like reading books is not what they do for a living. It's a necessary prerequisite at this point to running for office running for president and, you know, a lot of it feels very much like some editor told you, you have to get these points in and so you like go home every night. And write it down. Right. Or just your interviewed by somebody goes right for you. Yeah. You know, Elizabeth Warren, clearly knows how to write a book write this was not her first book, she's written, lots of books. She understands it. She gets how to pull the audience in and you know it, it didn't feel as compelling as that grade. All right. Do you think after having read this does Houlihan move up or down or stay around the same place on your list of candidates? I mean he was pretty close with bottom. I mean he's down there with Bernie, for me, and he remains down there with Bernie for me. Do I think he's an excellent public servant? Very smart and motivated, and compassionate. Yes. Do I think he's president material? No, I think he doesn't move up or down for me. He was sort of somewhere. I have like three tiers of like, oh my gosh, I'm going to be so excited and happy if some of these people get in, and then I have the middle tier where I'm like, people will be fine. And then I have the bottom tier where I'm like, I guess. Clan. Custer has always been in the middle tier. And I think he stays in the middle tier for me. Yeah, I have a similar. I have a similar perspective on it. I, I don't I guess I don't think a lot about him. He's just not even on my radar. And unfortunately that's probably a factor. Not just if he is. But also of the kind of press coverage and he gets, which is pretty much zero and that's you know, not necessarily really his fault. But I think also he's, he's just got a lot of other things that he probably needs to do to round out his experience, and to really put him in a better position to be a, a solid candidate for president or even you know, let's say he wants to run for Senate. I'm not sure he could probably really solidify his reputation and get there. But he needs to get some more experience. So, yeah, I think he's probably middle to your from me played near the top the middle tier just because. What I do know of his policies, I like a lot, but yeah, not not like super exciting and I agree. We're just not hearing that much about him. Definitely. And, you know, at perhaps this book is sort of a reflection of why he's, he's not the kind of super compelling character that, that some of these others are. But, you know, I think he'd be really great. I did spend some time wondering at the end of the book would things have been different. If Hillary had chosen him, you know, the, the race was just so close that, you know, anything could have tipped things one way or another. And so it could be it could be that if she had chosen him that would have been enough or to knows Russia would have just own the election by more. Anything could arrive and but, but it is sort of an interesting hypothetical. Yeah, I just I feel like there's zero charisma. And when you're a leader, a world leader at that level, I mean, you have to have some sort of charisma. I mean even Donald Trump has his wacky, you know, dysfunctional reality TV, charisma because he looks like you know, cartoon but I just think either he's holding back and we can't see his real personality or his, he just doesn't have that thing that charisma that draws people, you know, to wanting to know more. All right, sir. Anything else we wanna make sure we talk about I was wondering if he was president, you know, like what he has his brother being. It's cabinet. They like go everywhere together. I know I was wondering. That would work, and I was thinking, a lot of like Jack and Bobby Kennedy. What is further Torney general? I mean I wonder after Trump if people are going to be like, whatever nepotism, fine. We don't care anymore, or if it's going to be like, no, we have to go, very hardcore back to being super ethical. No. Ating. We'll see one of the things I am enjoying though in a lot of these books and in a twenty twenty field is how many of the presidential candidates are really talking about how influential being raised by single moms was come on, mom is front and center in her life. And in, in some motivating for seeking higher office, and who would stay the same. And so I, I am enjoying that. I think it's a different perspective than we've gotten in the past from candidates who normally come from fairly traditional fluent backgrounds so agree. 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Budgets, shutdowns, polls, payroll theft, and guest former Gov Jennifer Granhom

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Budgets, shutdowns, polls, payroll theft, and guest former Gov Jennifer Granhom

"If he didn't lie if he didn't take the cossacks if you didn't demonised people for being different uh if you didn't make it okay to be bigoted then at the same kind of quarters in line look at fox news and call it state tv and people aren't going to call you are being unfair to immediately by guests who is the press lies is ever lied. Take it from jim. Komi who literally has live you. I know the answer that question. I realize the american people know for once the dumbest quote of the week from the trump white house didn't come from the chosen this week's award goes to assisted press secretary kaley mcenaney who inter interview with c._n._n.'s chris cuomo said that the president never lies. She must be delusional stupider super totally lacking in integrity. This is the michigan podcast. I won't soreg. I'm christine berry at the top of the rundown. This week michigan's a looming budget crisis. Will there be a state government. Shutdown negotiations appear to be at an impasse with just one month left work things out. I'm amy care. Harden happily recovered from a summer cold the uh us on this week's pad hurricane nestle teams up with legislators to combat hundreds of millions of dollars in wage theft michigan plus an update and enbridge line five and we'll have our weekly this weekend trump rundown on the insane reality tv show originating is sixteen hundred pennsylvania avenue we begin though with the state budget emma throwdown it the legislature from governor whitman so i reject any false ideas that we can continue to do what we're doing and thrive and meet people's needs means. We've seen republicans. Say that the funding we have now will get us on track to fix our roads offering up plans that shift money from education of our kids to to the roads and not even enough to actually fix the damn roads. It's unacceptable. I refuse to accept the status. Quo and i refuse is to kick the can down the road as we've seen twenty five years of leaders doing this town when i was sworn in january first michigan had the worst roads in the country i it did not create this problem. It's decades in the making but i am committed to fixing it house. Democratic leader christine greg who heads up negotiations creations for her caucus agrees with whitmer that republicans have done little to this point but she anticipates that things will get serious this week. I think we're just at the beginning of the negotiations creation so <hes> we're you know we're working on the edges of moving toward the middle. We are having conversation so that's the first step that we have to do but obviously the the democrats are fighting for our fair share budget. We want to make sure heavy trucks included. We wanna make sure the corporations are paying a fair share too so those conversations are just beginning. Are we looking at a continuation. During budget or shutdown can't agreement well. I was elected to reach agreement. That is the focus of course you have to have. Contingency plans are schools rules are already opened and a fiscal year july first so we had to have a plan in place in case <hes> we don't we don't meet our deadlines about my focuses on coming coming up with the real solution by the end of september. What's your advice to the school. District screws open absolutely schools open and you gotta keep operating focus because on the kids and we're doing everything we can't and frankly they've got to continue to keep putting pressure on their elected leaders and reminding them why they were elected and what impact not having a a- an actual budget so they know the numbers because if we continue on with contingency budget they're working on last year's budget numbers and that is is not going to cover the rate of inflation changes in student population things like that so we we have to keep working and they had to keep putting pressure on elected officials to get the job done representative genitive greg says the forty five cent gas tax proposed by the governor is a non-starter but the alternative has to actually raise sufficient money to fix the damn roads so far republicans tan come up with an alternative that actually raises sufficient money without gutting education. So where do they get the money two and a half billion dollars. A year is is what is needed. Everybody seems to agree on that. Give or take a few hundred million dollars but that's a quarter of the states general fund budget currently the governor will not jeopardize teacher teacher retirement funds which has been suggested by republicans conservatives opposed kicking the can down the road with bonding so one alternative would be higher business taxes which were cut nearly two billion dollars a year by schneider coupled with a smaller increase in the gas tax. That's one solution but businesses like that. One another is to raise the sales tax tax from six percent to seven percent and increased sales tax would raise enough money but requires a vote of the people it's regressive enforces low mileage drivers or people who don't drive at all to subsidize high mileage drivers which tends to hurt urban areas to the benefit of rural areas which i suppose makes it appeal to republicans a better alternative to me at least as raising the income tax a one percent increase from four point two five percent to five point five percent raises about two point four billion dollars. The best alternative in my mind is a graduated income tax constitutional amendment coupled with uniform business income tax which right now is pretty uneven in pretty low ladies ladies which are alternative angry with the income tax. I think it should have always been a progressive tax anyway. I think that that is one of the better ways to invest in the state. I don't have a problem with raising the tax on gas. I don't know that forty five cents is a good number but i also don't know where you you would draw the line at what is acceptable and what isn't what causes undue hardship and what doesn't that kind of thing that forty five cents may be just a starting point to the you know the rule komo negotiations is start at the furthest point and then work your way towards an agreement in the middle there are no good solution to the sin and we're going to have to just buckle down into something about one of the interesting things i heard recently was a conversation on the latest moore's monday podcast it was speculation around whether the republicans have benefited in terms terms of negotiations from not putting out a roads plan and republican strategists mentioned yet it not having a plan may have benefitted them but if the government shuts down the democrats have had plans on the table for a long time and it would be difficult for the republicans to say that you you know they've been doing their work and not own the shutdown additionally the republicans are expected to fight attacks or they lose ground with their base so it's kind of an interesting interesting discussion and i'll link to it another thing that was on that podcast with julia bricks he talking about how we're operating this state on nineteen ninety nine tax dollars <hes> which is thirty eighty five percent down considering inflation and everything and that we don't need to be in austerity mode and were hurting ourselves so <hes> i mean if you think about how many people have come together to talk about how the state needs to invest in itself. Invest in infrastructure is the business community. It's i mean it's everybody who's coming yeah. They're saying this is a reality except the republican party. I've been following them on social media and their whole message is gas taxes. Bad whitmer is bad. There's been nothing think positive about. How do we fix the roads all about how widmer wants to raise taxes and she's horrible but after complete republican control for eight years what's left to cut what is left for them to do. Why didn't they fix the roads when they had their their mannion office. The challenges were fishing right now with the budget in lansing nothing he knew and we've got split government with right now on the podcast somebody who knows all too well how hard it can be to get the two sides to come together. Former governor jennifer granholm governor welcome to the pod. God is so great to be on. It's been a long time since we've talked and you've had a lot of time really to think back on that tumultuous eight years when you were governor and ruler ruler. You had no money no money every year. It was the same thing it was really quite very much. Like groundhog. Day was in preparation for this is dan i and my husband and i had written a book after i was done in all of the gory detail about the the budget battles that we had year after year a year after year and and boy i i certainly hope that i know that <hes> governor whitmer has a challenge with the road funding component but i sure hope it's not as bad as it was in <hes> in the first decade of this century you were working with legislators who had more experience appearance than some of the one she's working with term. Limits really kicked in hard after you were running through those problems and it's got to be standing to her worries. I would imagine i mean i was fortunate to have first of all. She's so experienced so that's that's a great benefit to the state unlike me i was not experienced with the legislature but i did choose a lieutenant attended governor who was extremely experienced and i had i had to budget directors who were both very experienced merrill illinois and bob emerson so that really helped a lot lot but when you do have new people it is hard to the budget super complicated right and so to be able to explain to folks who do not not want to raise revenues that you have to either cut somewhere to be able to make this happen and when you were down to the bone of course you don't want to cut the basics like education or public safety or health care for vulnerable people and so getting people to understand the gravity of that. I think is very difficult. I say all of that. There were experienced people when i was governor but still nobody wanted to do what they had to do. In order to balance the budget so i know that she's coming gap against it as she's preparing for what could be a shut down at the end of the month for the legislators especially putting out a press release saying that things aren't going to work out but for the governor. You've got to prepare for it. How difficult is it to get the department's ready so the state still functions even though technically you can't spend any money yeah. I mean you have after municipal. Really it's quite a long process to be able to prepare the shutdown books for every single department so that you know i mean there's some basic stuff that must must keep functioning but for the most part it gets shut down and so every single department has to have it's it's thought through well-thought-through strategy so we had a whole all series of books related to each department what would happen when when the clock hit midnight last september what would happen honestly the walt. I'm thinking i'm guessing and i you know i have. I'm not there. I'm not in the weeds so i don't know exactly what's going to what strategy is but what we found is that once the legislature was able to demonstrate that they had no other alternatives but to find the revenues that were necessary which means wants wants. There's a shutdown they can say to the citizens. I tried everything. This was the last you know. This was the last resort essentially so my guess is because in both of my in both of the shutdowns that happened when i was governor it was the shutdown was over like within hours so it was just the need for for the legislators to say i tried everything and we demonstrated that via a shutdown and then we had to come to the table so my guess is. That's probably what's going. It happened last campaign. It was almost as though the republicans were running against both you and gretchen whitmer at the same time. They repeatedly talked about the lost decade and if he gets elected. It's gonna be grant home all over again. How are you feeling just see this from the outside. Did you want to fight back. I did but i didn't wanna hurt her. The i always want to fight back. Let's that's my instinct but because i am now in california near my parents who are who are ailing. I wasn't in the day to day. I certainly got a lot of messages etc about what to do. She you know she didn't need me to come in. People are not stupid. They know she is not me. In the circumstances of the state are different were not in the throes of an automotive meltdown and bankruptcies in the largest industries in our state anymore and so. I think it's people saw that it was a different time and obviously she was very successful. Which i'm really happy about okay now you're a pundit among other things also teaching at cal berkeley <hes> but as a pundit and you look back at michigan a lot of talk about which democratic candidate or candidates would fare the best in the state is the formula really to win in the state to run a progressive moderate campaign like like russia did like alicia slatkin did like kili stevens stood. I do believe that we have to look to states like michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania who all had folks who were winning in dan what had heretofore been red districts and they won significantly. Women's obviously did really well in michigan but they did well across the country as well. I i do think we have to do is a little bit frustrating seeing what happens in washington d._c. All of the focus for example on impeachment now. I'd like to see the president impeached. I know it's not going to happen because we don't have a republican senate etc and i do know that people are super concerned in michigan and in the industrial midwest about the manufacturing jobs the tariffs the result of those tariffs not just on manufacturing on agriculture as well so talking about those issues i think is really really important and i think that's really frankly most people in not just those three the states but across the country when i hear so all of that is to say i do think that whoever is talking about bat is going to be a welcome candidate and i you know i worry about about whether we go too far in one direction or another because i don't know that i'm you know michigan's. A pretty pragmatic states as car eleven used to say. We're not fancy. We want the basics. We want government to work well. We want to see no corruption. We wanna see people attuned to our needs like healthcare karen jobs and that's the kind of candidate i think will be most likely to succeed. I think when you were on another podcast that he was the axelrod murphy podcast added added the name to that description. I think it was amy klawitter. Yeah i think amy you know would be would. I don't know why she hasn't come fire because i do think that she has the kind of approach that would would do well in a state like michigan but but so far it doesn't appear that the polls are in her favor although she is going to obviously make the the next two debates so you know. I like her a lot. I i'll work my heart out for any of these. I'm sure a lot of your listeners will will do the same but i you know i like joe. Oh biden. I'm helping the biden team out on debate. Prep <hes> i. I am elizabeth warren so i really like her into debate. Prep i really appreciate appreciate not just her intelligence but her theory of the case which is that the system does is now skewed. We don't have the right guard rails on the econ- the economy or on the influence of money in washington and those things need to be addressed so i think that <hes> you know kennel what i'm curious about what you would say about whether elizabeth warren could do well in michigan. I figure it's one of the midwest candidates not necessarily club h._r. But it could be heard could be repeat. He could even be tim ryan although he's basically done at about zero and a half percent yeah yeah and he didn't make obviously that debate i. I was hopeful for tim ryan as well. I think he got his is needs. <hes> chopped off a little bit in that first debate. Even though he had a good theory of the case to again focusing on working people on jobs in the mid west not going too far one way or the other <hes>. I like him as well but not sure that's going to. It's going to be in the cards for him. You mentioned you were hoping joe biden with debate prep up. This is not the first time you've done that recall last time. You've got to be sure palin little different this time well. I mean different in the sense that i am portraying a democrat rather than a republican and i'm portraying. Somebody who is is just super savvy as opposed to i mean sarah palin had had her own challenges but it it is so it is a little bit different. That's the reason why i'm doing this is because i think there was a comfort there that i could get into character her and you know give him a challenge which you know he's is is going to be really important. I do think that he had a challenge. In the first debate. Obviously he did better in the second debate and he's in debate prep and everything he's been super sharp so i hope that he'll be able to carry that through in the rest of these debates but it's all part of of sort of bending the muscle you know doing your reps so that you're in shape all the way through. I'm glad that they're attend debates because i think whoever emerges at the end of this will have will be a much better candidate for the general as a result even though the citizens might be tired of it. Tell me a little bit about your your new. Gig is opponent as governor. You had answered ten million people opponent. You have to answer to jake tapper right not even answer to him. Just answer him to him. <hes> you know it's funny because being ah you know it's obviously being out of opposite super liberating. You can say what you want to say and what you actually think can <hes> although you know the younger anger commentators and pundits are super interesting to me to listen to because they just do not care none of the sort of oh you know politeness et cetera that sort of went along with i think my generation they don't worry about any of that. They're just raw. They're out there. They're here's their her on it so it's exciting to be on panels with them and exciting to have them. I learned from them. Governor always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for joining. Oh my gosh same to you great to talk to you as well. Thanks it's estimated that as many as one fifth of michigan adults get cheated on their paychecks attorney general dana nessel made attacking this part of her campaign and she's following through is this as this can afford to pay lawyers three four five hundred dollars an hour when somebody rips them off but what about the workers in this state. Who do they turn to when they need help well. The department of attorney general is now. The people's law once again the raid to protect michigan workers who have been exploited hurricane nestle astle has begun by charging a lansing business owner with stealing more than fifty two thousand dollars that had been deducted from employee paychecks for benefits and then pocketing the money. That's that's been followed by introduction of legislation to crack down on wage theft democratic leader christine greg and senator curtis hertel junior spoke at a lansing news conference trumpet businesses stolen estimated four hundred and twenty nine million dollars in wages and overtime pay for michigan workers between two thousand and thirteen and two thousand fifteen and that very short time frame and that affected more than two point eight million workers. Here's when companies commit payroll fraud. They don't just hurt their workers. They're robbing from all of us that after his cost michigan taxpayers over a hundred a million dollars a year lost revenue because they're not paying taxes like everyone else does and again. If you were item payroll taxes we would go jail well. They are mostly getting off scot-free today. We're introducing a plan to crack down on employers that sheet there for verse and rob millions of dollars from tax payers. This is a package of bills designed to protect millions of hard working employees independent contractors and business n._s. Owners who are the backbone of our state's economy and who play by the rules. I thought the interesting operative phrase in that presentation and by the two legislators was independent contractors. It was mentioned several times during the news conference. That's a status that gives workers no protections no benefits so-called so-called independent contractors are the lifeblood of companies like uber and lift and whether they're drivers should be classified instead as employees rather than independent contractors. That's already being challenged in california courts and the california legislature is employees they'd be covered by minimum wage workers comp employment benefits and the ability to form a union. I i know in california. Those two companies are spending thirty million dollars to fight a legislative proposal to classify drivers employees and if that goes into the michigan is well it can be quite a battle and <hes> dr dash just joined them and pledged thirty million dollars. So that's a ninety million dollar effort. You could get fed action there too because they use a lot of independent contractors for their final miles of delivery. I'd like to give a little rundown on what the package of bills contains in addition addition to those <hes> increase penalties criminal penalties <hes> it's they'll also protect whistle blowers and prevent the misclassification of workers as independent contractors as we were just discussing restrict non compete agreements for low wage workers and allows the stay am workers to sue employers that are found in violation so it's pretty nice hefty hefty package is what they wanna do really realistic in a like who does this apply to and is it realistic in a gig economy because uber uber and lift did grow their businesses on the back of independent contractors but would that have grown if they didn't have that flexibility and with <hes> millennials and younger your generations valuing the flexibility of the of gigs more and more for that work life balance. Where does this package fit in so that it protects workers as much as you can because we know a gig as a job and if you've worked the job you should have some basics in oh you should have a floor wage as you should be protected in the event of an injury and that kind of thing <hes> but how do you balance out the business needs with the worker. Protections here was with a business neuters addicts flirtation of workers to build a business on their bags where they're taking all the risk and the company is getting all the profits i know uber drivers who at the end of the year when they to do their taxes realized they didn't make any money after they deduct the cost of maintaining their vehicle and mileage and all of that plus when they're out there driving the only time they're getting paid is when there's a customer astor were in the car if they're driving from point eight point be to pick somebody up that's non-revenue mileage and it is an expense as well <hes> the other issue. That's being covered as abusive use of overtime roles. I know of one person <hes> in my family in fact who work for somebody who used to average out over two weeks of it was eighty hours over two weeks. They didn't pay overtime. That's illegal and what nestle is saying is. She's willing to go to people like that and she'll go back over the books and will get that money back for the the employees that they were cheated out of is firs far back as the statute of limitations will allow. That's good to know my my husband had been salaried when he shouldn't have been one one of his jobs and <hes> so that you know he was working forty five fifty hours a week and not getting paid that overtime because he was salaried and then when another employer came in and bought that business they immediately took him off salary and put him on hourly because they saw that that was illegal yet. I worked for a company and i had always been on salary at this company didn't happen to me but the hourly employees if they ended up working over fifty hours or so whenever there was a big payroll for them. That should be switched to salary so what we had a crisis. One of our employees worked almost one hundred hours one week because he was just they're dealing with that crisis and when it came time to pay him the owner says just converted to salary. We can't pay that. This is a real problem and it's real theft. I'm glad to see that somebody's at least talking about this openly so if nothing else even if people who do this don't get caught. They might be a little bit more careful about how they treat the hours. There are two booming industries in the political world these days polling and fact checking fact checking in a trump world is exhausting so let's go to the polling instead a couple of notable polls this week i at the state level from epic mra opole which was a lot of bad news for donald trump which of course breaks my heart. He loses badly to all four of the top contenders for the nomination. Most emphatically joe biden allegiant allegiant by ten points interestingly. That's the exact margin by which gretchen whitmer was elected governor the biggest shift from red to blue no surprises among women which has been the trend in michigan for a while by fifty four forty margin michigan voters are pro choice which is bad news trump in the republican party in fact both john and james and the president were just endorsed by right to life of michigan fifty eight percent of voters classify themselves as liberal or moderate although the partisan split is forty two thirty nine democratic lots of interesting numbers. It's like the two thousand sixteen election was an aberration and is ready to bounce back. You think that's what's going to happen. I do i think people are being driven away from conservatism by the extreme positions being taken by trump and the people who are going along with him and the winning strategist chesapeake strategies in michigan have been from the moderate progressives not the extreme progressive would people like whitmer elissa slot gun hill stevens exactly and and i think that you know when you're looking at this pro-choice numbers fifty four forty. That's a huge margin. I think that's probably the biggest margin we've ever had and i think a lot if it's driven by the talk about doing away with a abortion rights people are realizing hey i do have an opinion on this and my opinion is pro choice because because being quote unquote pro-life which is absolutely not what it is but applying that labeled to something is so restrictive in forced birth that i just can't can't sign onto that i think part of it is michigan. You know kind of rebounding in balancing back out. I do think twice sixteen was an aberration and i think it was a there. Were a number of factors involved in that bernie sanders of voter suppression. People didn't like hillary for whatever reason think. Michigan has always been a blue the state that's just suffer from being gerrymandered and poor messaging or something i will be very interested to see how elizabeth warren fares when she gets to michigan during the the primary calendar next year <hes> i i'm not sure michigan is ready for elizabeth warren. The second poll is a national survey on issues conducted by quinnipiac ups university which is one of the best pulling operations of the nation. The sample is really large too which is important one thousand four hundred forty two interviews with a three point one percent percent margin of error which is far smaller than most of the polls you see out there. The top line of the poll to macy's that democrats are on the right side of a whole bunch of issues. Choosing republicans are on the wrong side. Let's dive in amy you first. There's a whole series of questions. Regarding gun safety and none of the answers will bring smiles to the <music> is of wayne lapierre's filler robber barons with the n._r._a. Oh poor wayne. I feel so bad for him. The numbers are not good for him. Definitely i don't think he really gives a shit about that though because he's just going to move forward on spending money and and working as a gun lobbyist seventy two percent of voters congress to take take action on gun violence among those republicans it was fifty percent the damson independence felt much stronger on the issue sixty percent would support stricter stricter gun laws <hes> let's dig deeper into those numbers the specifics of <hes> the policies that <hes> they floated in the poll on ninety three percent want universal background checks eighty two percent want require the licensing eighty percent support red flag laws which by the way are already in effect in the military hilla for military veterans but they're not very well enforced sixty percent want a ban on assault rifles and forty six percent would support a mandatory back program of those assault rifles the bad news for our collective intelligence is defying all common sense and research and inexplicable a couple fifty four percent blame mental illness for mass shootings over the availability of weapons that is kind of interesting is statistically. It's simply not the case news. I think that the a lot of that is that people just accept the fact though that if you go and shoot a bunch of people you've got to be crazy and therefore for it's a mental health issue which is really not how that works and i don't think this is a majority but many many who are on the slide of if not a straight up proliferation at least easy access to what we call assault rifles are are saying that's not fair. You're just using that language to scare people you you know they've never been assault rifles. Blah blah blah now that if i'm being shot at i'm going to feel rifle is being used to assault me. The language that's being used in this debate is very important important from the types of gun. We have like assault rifles to mental. Health is an issue. All of this stuff is all around language and messaging and it's nice to see some of these numbers amy that show that people are finally starting to cut through it and i'm thinking that taxes might be turning around on this little bit too you know in in the wake of the two tragic shooting shootings they've had their. We'll probably hear some rumblings even possibly from republicans in texas saying perhaps be i do a little something right now and the next presidential debate among democrats is in texas which will make it even more interesting two of the ten people who will be on the stage texans hooghly on castro and better o'rourke christine. They also talked about climate change in the survey. What do you see regarding voter attitudes towards that life changing issue <hes> there's a significant shift in concern over the climate and it's driven largely by young people but there are a number of things that have been happening to motivate people to really develop a sense sense of urgency about climate. We've had the national debate over the green new deal the u._n. Climate report the environmental voter project to get out the vote on climate. We have of young activists all over the world like greta. Thune berg big fires around the world. All of our democratic primary candidates have talked about climate change made it an important part of their campaign but really it is young people driving this change so we're developing a sense of urgency around one poll conducted by c._n._n. Found on that eighty two percent of voting democrats and a centre-left independence listed climate change is the top priority above universal healthcare occur at seventy follow up seventy five percent filed by gun reform at sixty five percent and look a little over a year ago as of july of last year of another survey. Now this was was a yale university survey showed voters ranking climate change as the fifteenth most important issue out of twenty eight so it's definitely becoming more of a concern learn especially for young people at you know i think peop- <unk> judge put it best when he said we're gonna be on the business end of climate change for the rest of our lives the quinnipiac i pol to backs up exactly what you're saying. A fifty six percent of the voters surveyed said the climate change is an emergency and seventy four percent of voters eighteen to thirty four say the climate changes and emergency and as we're recording this of course we've got a category five hurricane bearing down on florida and the eastern seaboard aboard a people are very much aware of our climate <hes> in real time just this week we've got rolling back methane emission rules by the administration opening opening the tonga's national forests in alaska for logging and mining. They're trying to rollback fleet fuel efficiency standards which we talked about last week they went to expand oil drilling in alaska ska and the president has publicly supported brazil's president bolsonaro in his slow walking of the firefighting in the amazon rainforest which is an emergency for the world is literally. Our air supply is on fire in brazil right now. I think it makes it easier for people to understand holy crap. The whole world is on fire. We have fires everywhere really the amazon rainforest being the i think the highest profile but it's easy to see why people more and more are starting to think this is a real problem and especially when you have young people speaking about it such clarity and passion to their parents end and to the public as some of these activists like grad i mentioned earlier earlier you could start to see adults also taking on a more serious concern about this. Both my kids are millennials and i'm seeing them and their friends climate climate change and student loan debt just keeping them from moving forward and life in terms of getting married and starting a family and buying a house <hes> they they're just feel frozen rose and also on the political scene. The lineup is set for the next democratic debate later. After this month with ten candidates meeting the d._n._c.'s rules for qualifying so for this debate at least will only have one discussion and it's going to be three hours on a._b._c. Qualifying defying are joe biden people to judge kama harris bernie sanders elizabeth warren cory booker better o'rourke amy klobuchar hooghly on castro and andrew yang thing and just barely not qualifying. Tom stare and tulsi gabbard who came up short but could qualify for the debate after that because the democratic nick party rules say that you can accumulate the stuff now and catch up with us later so we may be back up to twelve or thirteen candidates in the next debate of it as we look look at this list who can really win the nomination. Does each of these ten have a real shot if not which the ten can't possibly happen as the nominee and are are there any non-qualifiers who can reemerge with the october debate now. I don't think there are any non qualifiers and you know in addition to tom. Style and tulsi gabbard marianne williamson williamson <hes> is also in the hunt for getting into the debate. I don't think she will but <hes> she's only got one qualifying poll going into this when she needs a total of four four <hes>. She's going to pick up three more polls where she gets at least super. She's a little bit farther behind. She makes it with donors. I don't know why we still have ten and quite frankly. I think that we could probably make the cut off. You know the top five at this point but joe biden. I think is the one with the best chance of having a a successful national campaign peop- buddha judge is really popular but does he win. In the more i don't know does he come across to you as a moderate candidate because he speaks like one. You look at his policies than you think okay. That's that's a little bit more progressive. You know my sense is that most of them are running for vice president at this point <hes> however i think two of the top three in terms of the polling right now biden and sanders bernie sanders. I don't think either one of them's going to get the nomination. Actually it was elizabeth the best war and in the top three and she's seventy years old and i'm wondering for ages going to work against her. She'd certainly doesn't act like a seventy year old by any runs on stage. She puts on sneakers and runs on stage and she's a cheerleader out there. She's pretty awesome is far as my making this call. It's like back in two thousand sixteen. I never ever in my worst nightmare. Thought trump would get the nomination signed probably not the person to make this call i would just probably crossed off the bottom five of them and say that <hes> buiding buddha judge hair sanders or warren. We'll get it. I don't think that castro gang located. I think that they are running for a cabinet cabinet pallister. Perhaps a vice presidential post but my my call is probably for warren. I don't want to jinx through starting from the bottom of the list in terms of polling and working my way up. Andrew yang is not going to be the nominee. Houlihan castro. I think is a real possibility for vice president because of what he brings to balance to the ticket he which texas xs infla- he makes the party stronger in florida. I think club h._r. Is one who actually has got a lot of upside potential if she can get her campaign a little bit more our focus because i think politically <hes> she fits in ideologically better with the party than most of the candidates that are ahead of her in the running right now if if one of these major contenders said okay. I'm actually going to throw my support behind club ajar that would happen. I i don't see amy coach are getting traction. You'll she hasn't so far from a policy standpoint. I think she's a stronger candidate. I think better was dead meat. He's i think he's re rebooted his campaign now three or four times and and it still hasn't taken hold cory booker really confuses me because i i see him on the stump and he's a very convincing candidate but he's not getting any traction in the polls warren clearly to me is the favourite right now and i think karma harris's probably in second place with people to judge in third place and for booker his achilles heel is the big pharma donations that he's taken but he's he's kind of caught between a rock and a hard place because he can't alienate the pharmacy companies. They're in a state so damned. If you do damned damned if you don't and of course we've only got six months until the first voting actually happens at fourteen months till the election so i will save this recording and play it back the day after up to the electrical. No well i have to say part of me really hopes that people to judge is the nominee i think he could probably run a national campaign i just i don't think he could run it. Starting today. He would need a lot of support from his current competition. Go get in there and we're going to get the support from the from the others they everybody is so focused on saving this nation from trump idle even if it was williamson honestly i think the rest of the field would get behind her not that that's ever going to be marianne williamson but i think that's how strong democrats feel right now but getting order trump donald trump is if nothing else the master of this direction he says all sorts of outrageous things but they seem designed to take attention away from the horrible the things that he actually does. We've already talked about some of the environmental outrageous this week other atrocities just from this week a frago eric trump is threatening to sue lawrence o'donnell of m._s._n._b._c. over story. Oh donald ran on his show and then retracted a day later because it was inadequately sourced with that's not enough apparently for the trump family. Daddy says he'll issue a part. Anyone who broke the law in a quest to get his stupid wall built in time for the election trump creation of the space command since congress is unwilling to give him his new space force branch of the military. It was revealed that he's considered using nuclear bombs to disrupt hurricanes. He's announced that he shows in the best possible. Site anywhere in america host the next g seven and coincidence of coincidences. He happens to own it. He changed the rules that protected seriously l. immigrants from deportation which amounts to a death sentence for some people including kids who can only get the treatment. They need to stay alive in the united states. He implemented a new policy which strips automatic american citizenship for children born abroad to a servicemember or diplomat. He continues to lie about james comey claiming komi leaked classified information. Even though the department of justice inspector general says he did not and even as dory and was bearing down on florida heat averted fema money to allow building war prisons for immigrants it is an impressive list of the horrible christine which to you is the most outrageous they're all outrageous in different ways. You know the one on that. I actually enjoy the most is using nuclear bombs to disrupt hurricanes. That is so funny but he's he's got. He's got the football. He can actually really do it. I know it so it's also horrify but just on a humanity level. I i gotta say that <hes> deporting people who are seriously l. is just so wrong so sickening. I can't <hes> that has to be the most outrageous thing he's done. Amy which one has got you the most nauseous. It's so hard to choose such a cornucopia of shitty nece. I wanna say all of the above but i have to agree with christine. It's <hes> deporting sick. Kids kids <hes> and there was this segment on n._p._r. The other day and they were talking about how it could be up to one thousand children undergoing critical treatments and some of them could die within days or hours of being deported. I've got to admit i'm a little bit outraged. Well by deciding that the durrell country club is going to be the host for the g. seven he he is just robbing this country blind and it is so disgusting to me not so much that he is doing it but that the republican party is backing him on it and i find that really frustrating for the future although i agree with you the telling these sick immigrants so they have to die because they can't stay here is just absolutely horrific so that's it for this week's podcast. If you like what you're hearing kindly take a moment to rate and comment on i tunes and if you don't like the podcast god cast. You probably turned it off. Fifteen minutes go for links videos tweets in a transcript of this week's pad head over to michigan pollock dot com for christine's jeans amazing shona house and if you wanna contact as she can try email machine m. i. podcast gmail.com. If i can get my tongue go work straight to for christina and amy. I will see you next week.

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AP Headline News Feb 01 2019 21:00 (EST)

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I'm Tim Maguire to Democrats running for president Kamala Harrison Houlihan Castro as well. As a national president of the NWC P are calling on Virginia democratic governor. Ralph Northam to resign after admitted to being one of two men in a photo from his nineteen Eighty-four medical school yearbook showing one in black face, the other in a Klan robe while not admitting which man he was in the photo north of MS apologize for what he calls racist and offensive costumes that are in the picture. The Regina pilot reports that obtained a copy of the yearbook page from eastern Virginia medical school library. The photo confirmed by the AP were first published by the conservative, news outlet big league politics. President Trump says in one hundred eighty days the US will be out of a treaty on intermediate nuclear arms unless Russia gets back into compliance. US a NATO allies have for years said Russia has been building nuclear armed cruise missiles in defiance of the nineteen eighty. 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Outrage and anger in the wake of another racist massacre

All In with Chris Hayes

43:50 min | 2 years ago

Outrage and anger in the wake of another racist massacre

"Tonight on all in that's an invasion. I was badly criticized for using the word invasion. It's an invasion outrage and anger in the wake of another racist massacre. Is there anything in your mind that the president can do now to make this any better. What do you think tonight pay to aurora worked. Joins me live to explain why he's laying blame at the president's feet. He's not tolerating racism. He's promoting racism bus houlihan castro on why he says donald trump trump is unfit to lead our nation then the renewed call to do something about guns in the wake of a mass killings in texas and ohio and just what it means to us the terrorism label on white nationalist violence america is under attack by lethal violent white nationalist terrorism and all in starts right now good evening from new york. I'm chris as even if there were no blood it would still be vile if there were no body count no deaths to mourn no grieving families know young parents corrupt apart by bullets while shielding their babies. Even if none of that had happened it would still be an existential threat to the america we can and should should be this is an invasion when you see these caravans starting out with twenty thousand people. That's an invasion. I was badly adler criticized for using the word invasion. It's an invasion and it's also an invasion of drugs coming in from mexico okay. It's an invasion of drunk. Even if there were no maga bomber radicalized at trump rallies and sentenced today to twenty years for sending bombs the president's foes the rallies would still be ghastly chilling enterprises were crowds are incited and encouraged given to the worst impulses where they ecstatically desecrate our national character yelling l. ing shoot them while cheered on by the head of state and when you have fifteen thousand people marching up and you have hundreds and hundreds of people and you have two or three border border security people that are brave and great and don't forget. We don't let them and we can't let them use weapons. We can't other countries do we can't i would never ever do that. But how do you stop these people. You can't this. That's only the panhandle you'd get away with that state only independent even if not one drop of blood river shed in pursuit of it would still be anathema it would still be a force to be routed and concord and banished antisemitic screen and what is the it. I'm speaking of well a quarter phrase you know it i know the well of evil from which our president draws and has drawn from the first day when he said mexico was sending rapists the u._s. Presumably with the explicit intent to defile america's women the dark sorcery of racial hatred that conjures invasions and infestations out of desperate fellow human being seeking refuge and exulted hatred a hatred wrapped in a joking not joking smile and a cowardly irony in a pause at the podium what the crowd hurwitz well. It's bil- hatred echoed in the refrain of death squads were criminals and fascist mobs throughout history as they will the club and the pistol and the machete your invaders. You are animals. You are a disease you are a threat to us and you will not replace us talk to you in that group but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides which is why of course if there is is a body count that there is blood on the ground but there's a list of names waiting now to be carved headstones political violence represents a distinctly destablizing threat to the fabric wake of a peaceful democratic society and it can and has come and we should be clear about this in many forms and from many ideologies they've been leftist belts of terror and religious fanatics and nihilistic stickney ex and let's not forget that a man to kill half a dozen republican members of congress motivated appears by his hatred of them their politics congressman scalise barely escape with his life was despicable act rightly and roundly condemned by all but the pattern laid out before us repeated over and over again requires willful full obtuseness to ignore a study conducted by researchers at the university of north texas found counties that are hosted a two thousand sixteen trump campaign rally saw two hundred and twenty six percent increase in reported hate crimes over comparable counties that did not host such a route two hundred and twenty six percent the men who wanted to shoot up a mosque where somali the immigrants worshiped who argued in court. Their actions were influenced by trump's anti muslim rhetoric. The bomber who tried to blow up the president's enemies the synagogue shooter who mused about the immigrant caravan and the jews he claimed behind it the el paso murder who left a manifesto whose main talking points would be more or less unremarkable out of the mouths of the the president's closest advisers or the president himself. Donald trump knows what he's doing. Everyone here's the president loud and clearly when he speaks wchs he tells his followers they alone are the heroes of this country's history that they are threatened by their fellow countrymen and women who live in cities by the desperate mothers and babies and flip flops and he separates great some pens by those who call their god by a different name time and again time and again this nation must answer the question who it is for america erica is four and the simple answer time and again must be it is for all of us. We welcome the stranger we pursue justice we act actors equals in the collective enterprises democracy the president and his party stand on the wrong side of that question right now they have long since disqualify themselves from the support of decent people doing so joining me now twenty twenty democratic presidential candidate mentor work represented el paso in congress for six years a native of that city first of all congressman how are folks in el paso doing and coping right now people in this community. We are so incredibly strong. I was just at university medical center. Visiting with people who have suffered the most grievous wounds you can imagine people who also had family members who were shot family members who unfortunately were killed and the strength the determination that they show show the care that they're receiving from these extraordinary doctors and nurses and frontline staff the love and his community lines around the block in order to be able to donate blood blood to in some way be able to help out our fellow pass wins and in this community of immigrants eighty-five percent mexican american by national community what ends ends is an el paso wins alike coming together in a display of confidence and courage and strength and love in the face of this hatred of never been been more proud of el paso than i am right now. How do you make sense of what happened this weekend there. You just did a wonderful the job of making sense of this for us chris it is that hatred in which the president traffic's the racism that he promotes the violence that he encourages. No one should be surprised. No one should be asking themselves how this could happen in our country. It's very clear in this president's maiden speech as a candidate for the highest office in the land he chose to talk about communities like mind to describe mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals. He did not only welcome the violence against them. He literally sent u._s. Servicemembers thousands of them to the border for what reason to meet kids who had just fled two thousand miles miles for their lives who show up here penniless defenseless as vulnerable as a human being can be he wants you. He wants people. He wanted that killer to be afraid and then to act on that fear and you know what he did. Twenty two people dead now in this community community that has been forever changed but but will not be defined by this because though we have borne the brunt of this racism and this hatred and attack this community also holds the answer answer. We are one of the safest cities in america because we are a city of immigrants and asylum seekers and people from the planet over who have found a home here here in el paso and by their very presence have made a stronger and more successful and more secure than we could have ever been otherwise this. This is the example that the country needs right right now. I don't think the politics here matter that much. I mean what who's got the bigger path of the country but i guess i wonder like so. Are you confident. Do you have bedrock unshakable faith that your vision is the vision of the majority of this country that the rejection of the way the president talks. It is what most americans want here. We very consciously started out two hundred gordon forty-three years ago on the premise that we were all created equal. We consciously chose not to define ourselves by difference or by race or ethnicity or or common ancestry. We've never quite lived up to it but until now until this administration. We never really stopped trying to live up to that. I believe the people of this country. I certainly believe in the people of el paso texas and they are showing us the way right now yes. I'm optimistic and and i'm hopeful whether or not you can believe it in the face of this massacre and this tragedy we are so much bigger and stronger and more confidence than this we see in our differences nothing to be afraid of in fact we don't tolerate we don't respect we fully embrace these differences as foundational to our safety to security to our pride as americans. We're going to get back on track. We're going to reject this president and his racism everyone who traffics in it everyone everyone who is aided him those members of congress who have yet to speak out against this president and draw the connections between his language his rhetoric and the violence that we're using you mentioned in the opening hate crimes on the rise every single year for the last three years. The mosque in victoria texas burned to the ground on the same day that donald trump signed a ban purporting to ban all muslim travel to the united states of america. We know what's happening right now. The people of this country do it's time for their elected leaders to say as much for members of the press to be very clear to stop equivocating. Don't ask if the presence racist you know. The president is racist. Don't ask if he had a role in what happened in el paso he absolutely did now. It's time for us to act. Do you think there's a world world in which there are people who are still supporting the president or persuadable on this who are amenable to the kind of vision that you're sketching about what an inclusive sort of americanised looks like i do and at this moment of such great division when when we are so polarized when when we are being driven further apart every day by this president through this anger and through this fear that he wants us to feel i really believe in our ability to come together to to save from the outset outset. Do not care who you voted for last time for president what party you belong to how many generations you can count yourself in american whether like seven of the victims comes from this shooting you live in su- what is that you're here that you're part of this community that you're a human being. That's what matters first and foremost and we're going to treat you you that way as a travel texas as a travel this country. That's what i see. That's what i hear. That's what i feel. That's what we were going to live as a country going forward. I'm confident confident of it. All right. They told work from congressman. Paso running for president wanted to say that you've been hearing this from everyone but the entire nation <hes> standing with <hes> with the folks down there in ohio as well. Thanks a lot we're grateful much more on this weekend's to mass shootings including the rallying cry to do something about guns what it means to label white nationalist murderers as terrorism and more on what this moment means to the future of our country after this even before the mass murderers is weakened even before this white supremacists committed what is being treated as an act of domestic terrorism has been clear from the first moment that donald trump came down that desk leader for years ago particularly clear in the last few weeks donald trump stood idly biza crowded rally chanted senator back the president's cultivation racist ideology and his racist definition of what the u._s. is four pose. An existential threat to the country's nature should be that's it. It is an existential threat that we face down many times before and at battles over and continue to battle over but this is as much a hinge in history of what the country we're going to be as we have ever had here with me now erica annual chief advocacy officer immigration legal services group races and adam serwer staffer the atlantic who wrote about this very idea today erica what what is the significance reverberation of this moment after what we've seen the president say and do against immigrant communities yeah i mean it was absolutely devastating for a community sushi that not only the narrative of donald trump creating policies against our communities eighties. It is also actually driving actions now from people who really listened to him to really believe what he's saying about immigrants and obviously this person going to the border and doing what he did was specifically targeted towards immigrants. He was very clear about it and so to me. It is definitely right now. How very very urgent that we're changing policies but also that we're start changing narrative and the president needs to understand that what he's saying is going to continue to to change lives then at the end. They also n. Life as what happened just recently announced bustle atom i didn't i didn't play any of the presidency share even mentioned it because it just just seemed to me completely immaterial we know what he is and what he actually believes and you've written about this before that the essence of what the what he has been selling cannot cannot be detached from this particularly racial is vision of who really america's for who belongs here who's being invaded in who the invaders are look. I'm sure the president doesn't actively want people to die but both key and his advisors spent the last month telling everyone who would listen and how brilliant the president's strategy of fomenting racial division was and they can't control how seriously people take that and when you're telling everyone you ah when you're telling your audience is these huge audiences of people both who watch fox news and who listened to the president that the country is in danger existential existential danger because of the threat posed by people who don't look or worship like them then you can't control how people are going to react to it especially when you're up there saying wouldn't it be great if we could just shoot down and i want to stress erica and i'd like to hear your response to this <hes> eh piggy backing up with adam said and what i said earlier even if there wasn't oh violence it still vile like he's calling people in invasion calling infestation like that language is dehumanizing unacceptable able on its own detached from whatever deranged people do with it or violent people do with it like that to me seems fundamental to the understanding of at this moment in terms of when you talk about what has to change absolutely and this is a psychologically damaging to our community until you that as undocumented person. I've been afraid most of my life that meaning the u._s. You know my family has been really afraid for a really long time. Even before donald trump was an office but right now i literally have feared for my life life. I've known community members who have feared for their lives because of what has been said in those rallies because of exactly the conversations that have happened in the <unk> fortune in h._s._e._n. Gone screen shots of people who are on an on an talking as you know anonymous about what they're going to do to me or they're going to do due to activists and dreamers is to me right now. Really we are scared for early lives more than we are even scared you know for our families to be deported in is just beyond beyond beyond devastating absolutely just can't i don't even have the words to describe what i feel right now. There's also of course adam. The the president may be a senior figure in his rhetoric but the party that supports him. We see them object sometimes when he does things they don't like they just killed someone who kill the nomination of someone who's gonna be the head of the deny a managed sort of strike that down <hes> they don't do that about this more or less <hes> this core way hey that he interacts with and speaks to the base of his party. Look there was something really encouraging. We saw the past couple of days. Which was we saw a a lot of conservative figures and conservative media outlets condemning white nationalism and completely unqualified terms and that's good but the problem is that the senate haven't changed as long as the republican party seize the path to power through scaring the crap out of white people and fomenting this kind of racial division. This problem cannot be solved. It's also the case eric that that the underlying ideology here that drove this person <hes> by his own accord our to commit this atrocity was almost the almost banal and how common it is in certain conservative republican circles about demographic change change in about how it's going to be bad for the folks who were here because there will be new people here. Yeah we need to change the narrative in both parties to be honest with you. I think it is it. It is very clear that what happened in el paso is to me is just can't believe that the safest city one of the safest cities in the country is <unk> out the border and was literally terrorized by a u._s. citizen with a u._s. Bought weapon in to me is at this point. We need to start rethinking what we're talking about. Border security rethinking and re framing how we're talking about the marine committee in both parties and of course republicans have had a worse but i would invite he also the democrats especially those who are running right now for for office and for the presidential campaigns to start thinking about how they can best reframe and change the narrative of butter communities all right erica and deal and adam serwer. Thank you both thanks for having presidential candidate in texas native julio castro join me talk about the toxic white supremacy says is brewing throughout the country. We are not in the habit here of quoting the words of a mass murderer hoping to get attention for his vile 'cause through that murder but it is almost impossible look at his documents so called manifesto nazi views that are essentially at the core of the current trump's this moment a belief about where each party stands on the question immigration. Here's the shooting suspects read on things quote so the democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of marin while the republicans are divided over it at least the republicans. The process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced joining me now is fully on castro twenty twenty presidential candidate former mayor of san antonio texas it says what do you see as the stakes and the battle lines the fundamental one here in this moment in the wake of what's happened in the wake of the president's rhetoric about immigration immigration in this country. What is the simple clear choice to your mind that americans have to make a fork in the road. We're going to go down the path of either improving as a country and being a country that welcomes immigrants and people people that folks he has different from themselves that continuous improvement that this country has been part of since its founding or we're gonna go backward to a country that is fractured where somebody who's not like you is seen as the other especially recent immigrants. That's the choice that we need to make aac in the united states and as long as donald trump is president. This is not going to stop so with regard to immigrants or really whether we're talking him about immigration lines faith lines race ethnicity. It is his political strategy to divide us as americans but the good news is as we get to choose whether or not we're going to go down this path and i think i think you asked this question earlier chris that i they have confidence that the hatred in the heart of that shooter by no means reflects the vast vast majority of the people <unk> out there about a year ago on father's day. I went down to mcallen texas to join activists who were protesting the family separation policy at the earth <unk> processing center where they actually separate families and the families are the activists that were there were of every background and different walks of life in different parts in the country. We actually have values of compassion. Understanding respect for one another that i believe are much stronger no matter what the color of one's skin is or their background background than the division that this president is trying to fan the flames. I'd like you to respond to a critique. I've heard of you specifically in the democratic party recently in the wake of debates because it relates to this idea where where is the majority of americans. We're we're we're kind of democratic majority martialed for something that doesn't look as ugly as this <music> and people have criticized you and for democrats arguing over decriminalizing <hes> unauthorized entry which is currently a misdemeanor federal misdemeanor and you propose to to be a civil infraction other questions about immigration policy and they say that you're bringing the party outside of the mainstream away from that majority going to do damage to it and i'm curious what your response <hes> that i disagree completely that <hes> the fact is what i've proposed basically treating these things as a civil matter is the way that that was done from one thousand nine twenty nine until about two thousand four this is the way that it was don don under reagan under george h w bush under bill clinton so this is not anything that we haven't done before we can still have consequences for people who across over the border it would still be illegal to cross over the border. They're just not would not be this misdemeanor attached to it. That misdemeanor is what this this president trump has weaponized to incarcerate migrant parents and separate them from their little children and i've said that i'm going to guarantee that that it does not happen again. In the future administration the president today <hes> seemed to indicate and i don't think anyone should take the super seriously. It seemed quite tossed off that there there will be some deal. Maybe we'll do immigration reform and something on guns merola up together and i guess there's a fundamental question. Is it possible to do an immigration ration- deal with this president with stephen miller working in the white house. Is that even a possibility to be considered look. I think that anybody who wants to actually make progress on an issue. You always have to keep an open mind even sometimes if that seems like we've we've that seems impossible or ridiculous or it'll never happen. Look it. We're really working for the benefit of people out there. Show me what you're proposing now. Do i believe that that's going to happen given the bigotry of this president and the people that worked for him like stephen miller no but you know have have stranger things happened in history sure what we need to do. Though in the meantime is as as people here in the united states and we need to continue to push politicians to try and work together to fix our broken immigration system whether they're democrat or republican and to do it with solutions that make sense for this country country and for the people who are fleeing desperate circumstances who are seeking a better life generations did before them. I believe that ultimately in two thousand twenty one when we have a new administration and we have a democratic congress and democratic senator that we can get immigration reform done. I only on costra twenty twenty any presidential candidate. I really appreciate you taking a little time out tonight. Thanks kara dylan had the renewed calls to do something about guns following the deadly suiting in texas and ohio next yeah. This is seen individual in dayton ohio yesterday in the aftermath of the mass murder on the streets of that city republican governor mike dewine who has was endorsed by entering last year getting shouted down by crowds of people want him to do something could gun violence in the wake of the shooting that ritualized mass slaughter by guns. It's so common now in american society from police to politicians just everyday citizens they all have. We all have expectations about what happens during them. I am and what happens in the aftermath. The n._r._a. Has a game plan to lay low and try to wait out the nation's anguish blame mental health were video games or anything other than guns guns and then pressure lawmakers behind the scenes and in front of them sometimes to oppose gun safety measures that strategy is largely worked. Something is different though this time and and it's this sierra while still incredibly formidable is at its weakest point organizationally in decades as he battled between warring factions combined with a corruption scandal have plunged the a group into open turmoil joining me now robin thomas executive director of the giffords law center to prevent gun violence and i i guess let me start by asking that question. Do you think the situation the n._r._a. This scene factional dispute different entities accusing others of stealing and corruption and this sort of institutional implosion in happening does that matter in the political strength that the movement to a for sure max gun maximalism at this moment. I actually think it is important. Because what you're seeing is the integrity of the organization. They've really rested on this concept that they have sturdiness they represent the will of gun owners and those of us who are involved in this tissue that that's simply not true not only do they not represent the will of gun owners. They definitely don't even represent the will of n._r._a. Members who they represent are gun manufacturers and the gun industry and the lobbyists the leadership way not pierre and his cronies not only are fighting for something that is on behalf of selling more guns based on fear but apparently apparently and we've suspected this for a long time. They're also enriching their own pockets along the way they're under investigation by the new york state attorney general. There's an f. b. C. complaint against them oliver. North scandal was a big issue. The doesn't surprise me. These are not people who have integrity and so it doesn't surprise me that this is what they're doing behind the scenes in the case of the shooter in dayton <hes> one of the things that's so striking there and we don't really know what the motives are if we will ever learn them in the case las vegas kind of ever did just match burger in this case the unbelievably fallacy in such a short period of time. I mean the latest reports indicating. The police may have neutralized him. <hes> shot him stopped him within thirty seconds of the first shot to thirty seconds in a minute. You have nine deaths. I believe more than a dozen <music> injured. I think there's some instinct that this shouldn't be possible. The types of lethal weapons available to civilians in in the united states is truly astounding and when you talk to folks in the military or law enforcement they're pretty clear that these are not the kinds of guns but certainly should be this easily available all two civilians without proper training without any background check. That individual had a hundred round magazine drum. It's the same kind of drum to what was used in the aurora. Were theater shooting. It's incredible that a civilian not a time of where these guns these really meath assaults assault weapons and these kinds of magazines shouldn't shouldn't be in the civilian market and really you're even hearing that from from folks across the country that we need to do better to regulate salt weapons and to regulate magazines. Is there a police gun gun safety groups that yourself sort of fighting so hard for these small incremental changes for so long. It's still hard to kind of break the damn of n._r._a. Resistance do you think there are folks inside your movement who are saying let's think big like cory booker for instance proposing a national essentially licensing system right like car license since for all guns which is utterly anathema the n._r._a. What do you think of that idea. Where do you think about the sort of scope of the ambitions of moving part of our right now. We should absolutely he be thinking and talking big. We should be talking about comprehensive reform because that's what it's gonna take to actually address this issue. That's what has been done in other countries and that we've seen having tremendous difference even in states like california where we have thought big on we've passed comprehensive reform and we've driven down gun violence year over year over year to one of the the lowest in the country so we should definitely be thinking big yet. We have to start with something and that something should be the universal background check law that was passed by congress earlier this zere that'd be a great starting point and then we need to keep going. I love that these new democratic candidates are talking about comprehensive reform because that is what is actually needed that was passed by the house. It's sitting for the senate to take up mitch mcconnell. Thus far won't take it up. Chuck schumer and others have called for him to call a special session and comeback pass. That probably towns. Thank you very much. Thank you coming coming up what it means the d._o._j. To treat passer shooting as an act of domestic terrorism the justice department is investigating the mass shooting in el paso texas is a case of domestic terrorism which is rare for these kinds of events for years people have been touting the fact in both the rhetoric and the actual institutional nature of the f._b._i. And the nation's natural security architecture that there is a category terrorism that is inherently it seems seems linked to muslim extremist jihadi views that other forms of extremist political violence have done by white people in pursuit of white supremacy does not get that label and the institutional infrastructure behind it while this is happening. We are seeing all sorts of metrics jesting that there has been a spike in right wing violence according to the anti-defamation league which keeps track of this kind of thing extremists related murders spiked thirty five percent between twenty seven two thousand eighteen and last year. Every one of those murders was carried out by a right wing extremist back back in two thousand nine and domestic terrorism analyst department of homeland security warned about this in an eternal report. He faced enormous backlash from conservative media and republican lawmakers hours after his report was leaked to the press d h s then caved to political pressure rescinded the report and the unit looking at right wing extremism was disbanded he left the department of homeland security went on to write a new book called hate land long hard look at america's extremist at former domestic terrorism. Analyst darrell johnson joins me now giving your history mr johnson given the fact that you wrote that memo in two thousand nine and went through the backlash. What are you thinking now as you watch what we're seeing unfold over the last you're so we'll thank you chris. It's very disheartening year. After year. We have these attacks and yet our legislators and government officials seem to have their heads buried in the sand about this issue so when i see these things happening it's the new normal now. These attacks have been happening practically every month and what are the trends that were you. What were the trends that we identified in my report. Yes exactly yes so we basically basically back in two thousand seven postulated what if barack obama the first african american to run for president got elected and we knew that this this would be a recruitment and radicalization tool used by hate groups to basically swell the ranks and begin conducting violent attacks so that report in two thousand nine was actually really a predictive analysis that warned of a coming threat and yet what we've seen we've seen under bill clinton for instance activated right wing thing <hes> extremist violence famously timothy mcveigh and then several militia groups but what we've seen as in some ways a little bit of the inverse of what you predict it right that <hes> these groups would rise up as in a sort of oppositional stance but it seems that the sort of explosion of the number to believe in this kind of violence and organization. It's actually happening under donald trump. What's your theory for that. Yes so typically under democratic administrations is where we see the rise of hate groups and anti-government groups because because they fear pending gun legislation or expansion of minority rights so typically during the republican administrations we have a dial back of right wing extremists premiss activity because they don't have to fear these things <hes> so what's the difference is the fact that we had a very hostile two thousand sixteen election campaign campeign and we've had extremist ideas that have been mainstreamed by the current administration <hes> there was a demonization of any opposition russian and dehumanisation of people that are viewed as opponents to the administration and so these types of things kind of kept this momentum going and has given given these groups kind of a green light to continue operate and can conduct act of violence. I wanna ask about the controversy over that. I report and try to make the sort of best good-faith the argument for some of the backlash which is the first amendment is it protects people's political views. It's not a crime or illegal to have to hold us even if they're utterly odious <hes> for instance <hes> neo nazis and white supremacists. That's all protected by the first amendment and that crimes are committed through actions. There's something dangerous this about government surveillance of people for their political views. What's your what's your response to sort of the best faith version of that argument you gotta remember these violent ideologies geology even though they're protected by the first amendment they bred long histories of violence so just the fact that you embrace is white supremacy. You're already halfway to an act of violence. All your lacking is that trigger a catalyst in your life so we had an equation when i was an analyst that said capability plus ten equals threat and the capability part is the large arsenals weaponry that these people have at their disposal. The intent comes. It's from the ideology gives them the scapegoats to target it gives them the justification that violence is a acceptable form to avenger grievance. Ideology does play a very important role and we need to understand that but at the same time you don't investigate people just because of their ideology all right darrell johnson. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us tonight. Much more of the question of domestic terrorism and white nationalism next for years as white supremacist political violence has increased people have called for the u._s. To name these acts as terrorism the same way we use the term for say isis inspired attacks but i think it's worth asking is terrorism. The conceptual legal and institutional framework that we want to expand and utilize hasn't the use of the term often lead abuses is giving this government bisa administration <unk> tools of that kind going to result in the outcomes. The country wants opt for more on this inherent tension joy mehdi hassan columnist the intercept hopes of the deconstructed podcast and m._s._n._b._c. national security analyst frank figliuzzi former assistant director of counterintelligence for the f._b._i. And frank let me start with you because i've seen a few interviews you give it on this. What is the significance and importance sort of tangible concrete way about the designation nation of terrorism to the act committed in el paso and why is that a good idea well. I'm not necessarily advocating that. It's a good idea but i am applauding the fact that we are finally at least labeling something because it's an ideology that leads to violence so terrorism terrorism is all about ideology as motivation and finally we have a recognition that this individual and others like him are motivated by ideology geology not simply by wanting to kill somebody for the sake of killing. Somebody and i think it's a healthy discussion that we need to have as a nation because we're getting to the heart you of free speech and privacy. There's a reason why we don't treat domestic. Terrorism like international terrorism and we need to get this figured out so if you told your local chief of police that there was a house on the corner that was allowing drug sales to happen there. The chief of police would probably put it under surveillance. Maybe send an informant and maybe using undercover technique we don't do that. Their houses on the internet sites chat rooms blogs where people are having discussions that are poised to commit violence and even saying they are going to commit violence yet. Law enforcement isn't present there and we need to figure out how to make that what happened while maintaining our free speech rights. That's a great point and it's sort of cuts to the quick care medi. I mean h chan of course there's been. I think three of these sort of murderous. I manifest is posted there. It is clearly environment in which in certain rooms on that place people radicalizing to other they're urging each other towards really heinous acts and sometimes those hacks are becoming reality. What do you think about the sort of category of terrorism here and the and the civil liberty concerns chris. This is why i love doing your show show because you are such important question really asked this question yeah and it's so important to every one of these attacks because muslims minorities people on the left we look at what's been going on and we say when is someone going to label. These people terrorists because the double standard is so frustrating we look at the media coverage and say why you not covering this stuff we we'll look politician to a passing laws only aimed immigrants or muslims or mexicans. Whatever and there's a great frustration they do something about frank is right to say we need to recognize the ideology behind in these guys having said that of course as you point out. Do we really want to import some of the worst practices from what's happened to us government. I hear people saying on my side of the argument. We should turn we should deal with domestic terrorists. The way we deal with international terrorists and the problem with that argument of course is that the way we dealt with international terrorists was included invading occupying afghanistan invading and occupying iraq opening guantanamo bay bringing the patriot act and mass surveillance and carrying got massive discrimination against muslim communities and violating human rights and free speech that we don't want to replica. I'm assuming i'm betting frank doesn't want to write some of the abuses from from the war on terror in terms of war on far right tara what we want though is some consistency and we want someone to take the white nationalist problem serious right. I think vilo agree with both those points. I mean i to your point about sort of the concerns about state overreach and some of the things that we've done in the war on terror. Frankly the president talks today sort of mentions as an offhand about about being able to involuntarily commit people who are struggling with mental health issues now again. There's some obviously some conditions. I think that probably makes sense ends but it's extremely aggressive power for the state to have it used to be a lower threshold that we have now the threshold we have now which is higher i think generally he's more in line with our values and civil liberties but that's a that's a tough question frank right like that's uneasy live. Our nation is very good at knee-jerk reactions reactions we we can mass resources and swing the pendulum whenever we need to and we did it in nine eleven and most of it was positive positive but there were abuses but we gotta listen to law enforcement to and they say they don't have the investigative tools in their tool kit to address this and that's what they're telling us right now now so congress needs to actually get this done and figure out the supreme court once said you know obscenity when you see it well. We all know violence silence when we see it if somebody says they're going to shoot somebody this weekend. That's a problem. The problem is how does law enforcement see it. How do they position themselves to see if it's happening within a private chat room well and there's an interesting other way of dealing with this method that i that i thought it was always. We're watching this unfold h._s._e._n. You know the cloudflare. Which is the this web service that was providing kind of cybersecurity for them. Stopping them from de de dos attacks and things like that. We're not gonna do this anymore. The head of of came who founded it said not the head of the founder of like shut it down there are private actions and private pressures that can be brought to bear that are not the state where you just say look with this is not the government coming in this is just social society being like a decent person shouldn't be associated with this of course the role of politicians. They're all of the media. The role of financial institutions institutions and banks are involved in stuff. You'll corporation. All of this stuff needs to be looked at but again that requires us to i recognize the problem and that's where franken one hundred percent in agreement at least now we're starting to see a lot of people say it's a shame so many innocent people had to die for people in our country for people in this country to start to open their eyes to this threat is here and this is a new threat. It's been around for a while into darrell johnson before the break who was talking about this threat in two thousand nine the presidency yeah exactly and even even oklahoma city. If you remember right wing went out and said it's muslims before we timothy mcveigh supposed things have been around for a while ignoring the white nationalist threat and exaggerating the muslim threat. Maybe now we can start some kind of re bouncing. Mehdi hassan and frank figliuzzi was great. Thanks a lot that does it for all in you can catch us every weeknight at eight o'clock on m._s._n._b._c. 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8-1-19 What's News

The Nicole Sandler Show

06:00 min | 2 years ago

8-1-19 What's News

"And it's time for nicole sandler's what's news from nicole sandler dot com and the progressive invoices network while that was different night two of the second round of the democratic primary debates our history and i'm grateful that it's finally over the winter of ninety the two sanders and warren by a long shot. The tone was ugly and the attacks plentiful c._n._n. Didn't improve overnight and in fact act they just added audio problems to the menu of what was wrong with their debate though they didn't have bernie sanders to blatantly smear on night to as we did with the first debate here's a sampling of the opening statements of the candidates and their bill de blasio. Please begin when i'm president we will even up the score and we will tax tax the hell out of the wealthy to make this a fair country and to make sure it's a country that puts working people first senator michael bennet. Let's and this three ring circus in washington and make an let's make this election about reclaiming our future for our kids and our democracy empty. Promises won't be donald trump. I can governor jay inslee. If if we make defeating the climate crisis the top part of the united states we will. I'll have a fighting chance to save ourselves and our children's future. It has to be our top priority. Senator kirsten gillibrand brian we needed nominees will take on the big fight and win. We needed nominee who doesn't know the meaning of impossible congresswoman tulsi gabbard. That's as president. I'll bring this unifying spirit of love for country and the soldiers values of service above self to the white house truly leading government of by and for the people secretary leon castro. I want us to go backward. We're not going back to the past. We're not going back where we came from. We're we're gonna move forward. We're gonna make america better than it's ever been in the years to come. Let's do that together. We need to do the opposite of much of what we're doing right now and the opposite of donald trump is an asian man who likes senator cory booker call of this election is the call to unite in common causes and common purpose. That's how we will beat. Donald trump aw that's how i will donald trump and as your president bats how i will govern and move us forward to get senator kamala harris and i am prepared to march with you to fight with you for the best of who we are and to successfully prosecute prosecute the case of four more years of donald trump and against him president joe biden mr president so let's get something straight. We love it. We are not leaving it. We are here to stay in research. Not gonna leave it to you. Overall it was beat up banjo biden night. Kamala harris him on healthcare cory booker attacked him on the ninety four crime bill houlihan castro went after his immigration policy in kirsten gillibrand and try to have her own harris moment in convoluted accusation about his stance on women working outside of the home as for who performed best. I'd say hey corey booker houlihan castro and possibly tulsi gabbard. Yes i watched so you didn't have to on today's nicole sandler show. I'll have a thorough recap cap of night to hear it at five p._m. Eastern two pacific here on the progressive voices network or download the podcast from nicole sampler dot com the next debates are are coming september twelfth and thirteenth from houston on a._b._c. Today eight seven candidates biden harris warren sanders buddha buddha judge and a rourke qualified. Amy klobuchar is qualified. In polling while andrew yang and julio castro have both reached the donor threshold bolt in other news. The fed cut interest rates on wednesday by a quarter of a point the first such cut in a decade. I thought the economy was doing so well. Trump appears here's to a bullied fed chairman jerome powell into cutting interest rates while touting the best economy ever but after the cut he criticised powell tweeting that he led us dune this obviously because powell said the fed wasn't starting a cycle of aggressive rate cuts in fact the market plummeted on the news of the cut ending the day down three eight hundred and thirty five points during the debate comma harris explained the reason for the cut jerome powell just dropped the interest rates and he admitted why because of this so-called trade policy that this president has that has been nothing more than the trump trade tax that has resulted in american families spending as much as one point four billion billion dollars more a month on everything from shampoo to washing machines trump scheduled diversion for thursday night another of his nuremburg rallies this one in cincinnati california california governor gavin newsom on tuesday signed a bill requiring presidential candidates chill release five years of income tax returns in order to appear on california's primary. Mary ballots trump's attorney. J secolo said they'd fight it in court. What else is new and with my congressman ted deutsches op ed in the south florida sun sentinel all thursday morning a majority of the members of the house democratic caucus have now called for an impeachment inquiry into donald trump. Ted deutch was number number one hundred and eighteen. Thank you congressman and that's just a bit of what's news for now nicole familar. If you appreciate these reports in the nicole sandler show. I hope consider making a contribution. My work is one hundred percent listener supported and i can't do it without your help. Find out more at nicole sandler dot com slash donate.

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ICYMI - Julian Castro on "An Unlikely Journey" & the 2020 Presidential Election

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

09:13 min | 2 years ago

ICYMI - Julian Castro on "An Unlikely Journey" & the 2020 Presidential Election

"You're listening to comedy central. Please welcome who leon castro. Welcome to the show good to be with you. This is so strange because we had your twin brother on the show and so i feel like i met you on the show but i haven't met you on the show that used standard line that he that i'm a minute uglier than he is that what he says. This is an interesting time for you to be here for you to be coming out with this book for you to be. I guess involved in politics in any way shape or form. Let's start at the beginning because that's where the bookstores from waking up from my american dream. What does that mean to you. Why that title well to me. It means that in each generation ratio in my family starting with my my grandmother who came in nineteen twenty two from mexico as an orphan we found out that it's not enough in america to to just work hard and for your family to work hard that you also needed to work to improve society. My mother became mexican american civil rights activist. She ran for city council in san antonio when she was twenty. Three in nineteen seventy-one right tried to improve things for the community and then my brother and i have always seen public service as a way basically basically to ensure that <hes> that people who grow up in tough circumstances can achieve their american dream. It's also i think relevant today because what we see right now our young people across the country figuring out that they have a powerful voice right whether it's a march for lives students or any number of other activists young people are leading the way pushing us to get better against an administration that is trying to take us backwards you you you apart an <hes> administration. Previously it was beloved by many you worked in a position at hud housing and urban development. <hes> ben carson now has your job when you see him now. Do you go like wow. I didn't realize how many naps i could take or chris with the work you do. I got asked more about that thirty one thousand dollar dining any hud housing policy question last year he bought it. Yeah you bought expensive furniture. But what do you think he's he's. What what do you make of the job that he's doing right now and more importantly. What do you think that job is supposed to be about. The job is supposed to be about making sure that folks who are who are and who are middle-class have housing opportunity. I mean people no matter where they live. In the united states can see that the rent is going up going through the roof like crazy right and and folks we're having just to spend more and more their income just to pay the rent at the same time that department under that leadership <hes> doesn't have a commitment to the mission of hard to expanding that opportunity. The white house wanted to cut the budget by six billion dollars. It was so weird because the people that we used to fight with congress the republican congress your they actually they were the savior's not cutting the hud budget by six billion dollars. That's how bad it is. The people that that that basically no no no. That's too much for us. You know <hes> there's just not a commitment to the mission of the organization. We are at a time when america is at a crossroads twenty days as away from the midterms. Everyone says that this is going to be a referendum on donald trump. When you look at voter breakdown you know oh you all houlihan castro and one of the things that people we speak to his like you are one of the faces that is emerging from the democratic party as as someone someone who represents hispanic or latino voters they represent all have they wish to be represented when you look at the vote numbers though they say in america fifty five percents of the people who consider themselves latino are planning to vote which is low number relatively speaking. How do you think the democratic party and the republicans themselves can get people voting well. I think that folks need to reach out to those communities where they are with the issues that matter to them and that it can't be one or two candidates and it can't just be folks trying to gin up registration and turnout announced six months before an election there has to be a massive and sustained effort to get folks in hispanic community registered to vote and then to turn out to vote and <hes> and i think if that happens not only is that better for the latino community better for our democracy <hes> but i think that it's going to be a better or for the party that can demonstrate that they can meet their needs and i believe that's the democratic party. It's interesting. It's interesting that you've kept your name as julio castro in a time when your political opponents will obviously go after that you know they go like oh another castro astro fidel castro the houlihan coming to take your jobs. It's more of them. Are you prepared for that. Is something that you've actively chosen. I'm julian castro what you know in the book. I write right that in school when i was growing up in school. Even though my name is leon <hes> the teachers would call me julian and it wasn't until i went to college where you can kind of define define yourself. I know it's early on <hes> but i was thinking the other day because i'm considering running in two thousand twenty that <hes> always had the accent over my a in my name bright that i bet if i did that on the sign that that would be the first time that anybody has run of what president with the accent accent over a letter awhile something not seen before eight something. That's simple but that's who you are and you should run us who you are so so. Let's let's talk about that little nugget that you just slipped in now we running. I choose will be running for president today. I did not say dark angel. I do that all the time. Yes i've been running. I'm proud of that. <hes> twenty twenty is on the horizon. People are looking going who will represent the democratic party and right now. It looks like there are one hundred people in the running. Some people are concerned by this. Is that going to create an abrasive atmosphere where democrats destroying themselves before the race. How do you feel about somebody who may be considered as one of the smaller candidates in the in the running right now. I actually think we need that. <hes> coming out of two thousand sixteen <hes> warranted or not there was a lot of bitterness and so i believe that having fifteen or twenty people running is actually going to be cathartic for the democratic party where you have a whole bunch of debates. <hes> people feel like everybody had their say and they're part of the political spectrum in the party was represented and then at the end of the day that's gonna make the eventual nominee stronger and more likely to defeat donald trump or mike pants or whoever it is in november. Let me let me ask you this then. Let me ask you this then. If you were to get to that point. Do you genuinely believe that you could go toe to toe with donald trump understanding standing. There is no skeleton in his closet like he is the skeleton in the closet. You realize there's not much you you do you like. Do you understand the gravity the situation you're up against somebody who's like. He's talking point proof. He is the teflon don nothing gets to. What do you think you would do differently in going up against donald trump. I would say two things that <hes> first of all. I decide to run <hes>. I don't think that that <hes> you're going to be donald trump by trying to be donald trump <hes> <hes> if i watch a lot of boxing boxing or sports or other things you see that oftentimes people that are considered entered invincible are not beaten by somebody that has exactly the same skill set by somebody that has a different style but maybe more importantly it's the the folks who have been hopeful and optimistic and painted a strong vision for the future that especially as democrats have prevailed you think about in the modern era kennedy or mccarter when he ran represented a break from scandal rights or clinton when he ran or of course maybe the best example barack obama to i think that the next nominee has to be able to stand up donald trump and to call him out but also to speak directly to the american people born offer a strong hopeful vision for the future. It's going to be exciting to see what happens. Unlikely journey is available level now fully on the daily show but kurbanov years addition watching the daily show weeknights at eleven ten central on comedy central and the comedy central watch full episodes and videos at the daily show dot com follow us on facebook book twitter and instagram and subscribe to the feeling show on youtube for exclusive content and more. This been a comedy central podcast.

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The Democratic Convention Looks Like a Blast from the Past

TIME's Top Stories

06:45 min | 1 year ago

The Democratic Convention Looks Like a Blast from the Past

"The Democratic convention looks like a blast from the past. By Charlotte Alter. Welcome to the Democratic National Convention where you'll meet the most exciting new voices in the Democratic Party like Secretary of State John Kerry your Democratic nominee from sixteen years ago or former. President. Bill Clinton, clocking in for his fifth convention since he was President in the nineteen ninety s or Michael Bloomberg, who spent a cool billion dollars on his failed presidential bid to eke out a big win in American. Samoa. Former Vice President Joe. Biden. One of the most experienced Democrats and the oldest nominee in history has spoken of himself as a bridge to the next generation of Democratic leaders. But after more than three years of nearly unprecedented grassroots activism in the Democratic Party with a new crop of rising young stars shining across the country view of those have been given prominent roles in this week's convention. It's like a band that wrote a whole new album. But when it came time to perform at Madison Square Garden stuck to the safe familiar hits instead. Of course, the schedule is especially tough this year and some of the programming has yet to be announced normally days long convention would feature hours of speeches giving plenty of time for both new faces and established leaders to have their moment in the spotlight. But because of Covid nineteen, the convention is entirely virtual programming is confined to just two hours. A night and major speeches will be as short as two minutes long so. Democrats had to choose between highlighting familiar figures from the party's past or elevating new leaders who could represent its future mostly they chose the past they're going with the biggest names strategy and our biggest names are all about the past not about the future which I think is a really bad message right now says democratic. Strategist. Just Morales were Keto. It's so weird to me that we're doing America's throwback convention versus a look forward. The focus on returning to familiar names and demonstrating bipartisan support over elevating fresh faces has contributed to quiet grumbling across the party progressives are annoyed at the inclusion of multiple Republicans such as former Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman and say that the convention seems to be more about promoting the Democratic Party has anti-trump then articulating the party's future. The younger generation is trying to define and pull what the Democratic Party should stand for, and the party leadership just wants to focus on why they're better than the other team says while Lead Shaheed Communications Director for the Justice Democrats which helps elect young progressives. The convention is just we're team Democrat and we're better than team, Republican some democratic operative say the party is missing an opportunity to elevate talent that might not have a national platform. The schedule for instance doesn't have room for a young. Mostly, unknown Democrat his or her mark on the party. The Way Barack Obama did with his speech at the two thousand, four convention. If you're elevating Meg Whitman over any number of the incredible state legislators and gubernatorial candidates, you have a very different perspective of what the goal of convention should be says Amanda Littman Executive Director of run for something which recruits and trains millennial Democrats to run for office. The most important thing you can do is give the up and coming Democrats a platform she said. The DNC isn't entirely overlooking the energetic new generation of Democrats representative. Alexandria. Oh Cossio Cortez is speaking on Tuesday former southbound mayor repeat Buddha judge is speaking on Thursday and Andrew Yang was recently added to the schedule Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Atlanta Mayor Kisha lands, bottoms, both new to the national scene are also scheduled to speak there will also be a joint keynote address given by seventeen rising stars on Tuesday night including Stacey Abrams who came within a hair of winning Georgia's governor's race in two thousand eighteen. Abrams will be joined by Texas Congressman Collin allred Pennsylvania Congressman Connor Lamb and Brendan Boyle. Pennsylvania state. Representative Malcolm Kenyatta and Michigan State Representative Mary Manooghian along with many others. We couldn't be more thrilled that the country will be hearing not only from some of our parties most popular leaders but also some of our up and coming stars who represent a diverse group of ideas and perspectives from all across the country says Chris Meager Deputy Communications director at the DNC But even this compromise has urged some Democrats who argue that Abrahams, in particular who's become a powerful advocate for voting rights a role model for black women in politics and a leader for southern. Democrats is exactly the type of new Democrat who should have her own convention spot I love. Mari Manooghian and Malcolm Can Yada I'm so excited they're getting a spotlight says littman whose organization endorsed both legislators but she notes they are not on the same level as Stacey Abrams. Top Latino organizers say they're disappointed with the lack of Latino speakers in primetime speaking slots, and particularly irritated at the absence of Houlihan Castro the only Latino candidate to run for the Democratic nomination in two thousand twenty, some operatives said they were concerned that the parties backward facing lineup mines, Biden's own goals. Biden framed himself as this bridge to the next generation, and in many ways, the speaker lineup for the DNC. Doesn't represent that says, Sawyer Hackett a senior adviser to Castro. It's disappointing to see that there are as many Republican speakers on the first night as there are Ladan neck speakers for the entire week Castro had not been asked to speak Hackett said. Other Democrats said that the focus on the establishment was just as well because the DNC is no longer the arbiter of political relevance conversations about the future of the Democratic Party are in happening in party zoom calls anymore they're happening in the streets, the pathway to influence as a young up and coming member of Congress used to be something like a major slot at the DNC says a top aide to a well known new member of Congress. That's no longer the case that's not how we're building political power anymore.

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Canada Legalizes Marijuana & Colorado Votes to Abolish Slavery | Julian Castro

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

20:55 min | 3 years ago

Canada Legalizes Marijuana & Colorado Votes to Abolish Slavery | Julian Castro

"You're listening to comedy central. Cafe monster is shaking up the ready to drink coffee category with indulgent gourmet coffee. That's only one hundred ninety calories available in vanilla mocha and salted caramel with one hundred fifty milligrams of caffeine from coffee beans. B-vitamins in coffee, fruit extract in every bottle cafe monster offers a simplified energy blend that contains a third less sugar than the leading national brand, but you still get all the feeling flavor of your local coffee house. I love cafe monster because it convenience. I can grab it anywhere anytime and I still get the flavor of my local coffeehouse cafe, monster, Chile down, shake it up. Enjoy. Koper seventy two thousand eighteen. From comedy, central's world news, headquarters in New York. This is the daily show with Trevor Noah. Here's a. Two. Tonight. Our guest tonight guess tonight is a rising star in democratic politics. Houlihan Castro is he everybody. Making waves and we'll be talking to him about his new memoir and his plans for twenty twenty. But first, let's catch up on today's headlines. Canada was Americans know it clan be. Country. Many Americans envy for his universal healthcare and handsome, not crazy leader. And as of today, Canada's Prime Minister isn't the only thing that smoking the maple leaf is turning green starting today, Canada. Our neighbor to the north becomes one of two countries in the world to legalize marijuana for recreational use. On this may prime minister, Justin Trudeau Canada is the biggest country to legalize marijuana, creating an industry worth more than four billion dollars. Wow, congratulations Canada. This is great news for your Konami, but a great for all Canadians because now Seth Rogan can finally try, we'd. This has been. Honestly, I just assumed that they will ready high all the time up there. I mean, have you seen the horses. And. Happy for Canada, but I'm gonna lie as someone who lives in New York City. This story pisses me off. All these places are getting legal. We'd before us, but Canada doesn't need. We'd New York does right now. There are angry people walking around New York screaming at a guy walking over here. We need the weed at the city legalize weed. There'd be like I was. I was doing something over, you go, you go, first, you go first. Anyway, let's move on to news coming out of Colorado where we'd is also legal. But unfortunately, so is something else. Next month Colorado will vote on tainting the language that state constitution so that it no longer allow slavery as a form of punishment. Slavery is technically still legal in many states, including Colorado part of Colorado's constitution rates that there shall never be in this state, either slavery or involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crying amendment on the ballot. This year would change the last part to abolish slavery completely America. America's real shady. You brag about ending slavery, but then you keep it in the fine prints. Like when ABRAHAM LINCOLN wrote the emancipation proclamation. I didn't know he was like all persons how slaves our hands faults shall be afraid. Terms and conditions, apply free persons, maybe reinstates punishment for work really worked on fat. They're going to be working. Finally, finally, we all love grandma's cookies. But one students in California took it a little too far. Davis police are investigating a bizarre incident that allegedly happened at a high school. A male student claims. He saw girl, pass out cookies saying that she had used her grandmother's ashes to bake them, believe as many as nine students at Davinci charter academy highschool ate the cookies, some who knew what was allegedly in them now. I know. I know. I know you might be thinking that this is disgusting. Those kids ate the cookies, knowing that they were granny ashes inside of them, but don't judge them these cookies. Okay. You would have to be a psychopath turn down cookies. I don't know about you, but I love cookies. If you offered me cookies, always gonna, eat them. All right. They contain ashes. Okay. But did they contain cookies? Yeah. Good. If you give me cookies and tell me that there might be Doug poop inside. I'll eat around those eat around the Doug. Eat around the one piece. It'd be like, that's the piece of the pooper and you're like, how do you could point to that? It's cookies. What I am worried about is what if these grandma cookies of the best cookies, these kids of a head. They're gonna get addicted. Then one of the other grandma's gonna walk new and be like, hey, boys, what are you doing? Hello, grandmother. All right. That's it for the headlines. Let's move on top top story. The midterm elections are now just twenty days away. And one of the unfortunate byproducts of that is we're going to be seeing a lot more of this guy, and I know what you're thinking. How is it possible to see more Trump? Because I mean, he's already on the news. He's doing rallies. He's tweeting shows up in my dream where I'm marrying jaylo when I lift up the Vail, it's actually Trump, and then I still go through with it because fray, all our friends ready flew out and I'm not gonna lose the deposit. I'm not happy about it. But case in point since just yesterday, the president's is given not one, not five, but three separate interviews now, I don't know why I said it that way. But what's important is that President Trump has been sharing his thoughts on a variety of topics including his favorite Chinese hoax. Climate change yesterday when the Associated Press told him that scientists say, it is nearing a point where this can't be reversed Trumpers. Minded? No, some say that and some saying differently. I mean, you have scientists and both sides of it. My uncle was a great professor at MIT for many years. Dr John Trump and I didn't talk to him about this particular subject, but I haven't natural instinct for science. Okay. Okay. That's that's interesting. Just in case you missed that Trump says he doesn't believe in manmade climate change because his uncle was a scientist and that means that Trump has a natural instinct for science. Now he also says he never spoke to his uncle about climate change. He just has the science not edge. You know, it's it's his blood right now. I think that's cholesterol, but that's not the point. Like none of this makes any sense just because his uncle was good at science, doesn't mean that Trump is good at science. That's not how it works. If a pilot has a heart attack, they never like is anyone on this plane related to a pilot. My cousin watched that sully movie once you land up lying. So Trump doesn't believe in manmade climate change and for the dumbest reason possible. But the question the question that everyone is ready after this week is does Trump believe Saudi Arabia was behind the disappearance and likely murder of Washington Post columnist, Jamal? Kashogi. Right. And even as evidence continues to pile up Trump is seemed extremely reluctant to blame Saudi Arabia. Many people have suspected that it's because of money, and it turns out that Trump also suspects that it's because of money don't forget Saudi Arabia's, our partner, they made the largest order in the history of our country for outside outside of our country for for weapons. So now people say, well, we want to have you and that order well aren't we just hurting our own country. So we want to be smart. I don't want to give up one hundred ten billion dollar order or whatever it is two largest order ever given by outside country. Okay. I don't want to give that up, you know, say what you want about Trump, but he wears his moral bankruptcy on his sleeve. Straight up like, look, I know Saudi Arabia killed a dude, but we all about the Benjamins yo, these long ties don't by themselves folks because in all honesty of the presidents have also had some make these calculations, but Trump is the only one who admits like I feel like if he was a doctor, he would be like, ma'am, we had to take your son off of life support and be like, oh, no, because there was no hope left. No, my phone needed a charge and I had this. Don't tweets, don't tweet out waiting to send. And Princeton Trump is so eager. He's so eager to protect his possible weapons auto that not only has. He said, despite evidence that he believes Saudi Arabia's side of the story. He's also said that they are the real victims here and on the idea of trusting the Saudis Trump said, quote, well, I think we have to find out what happened. I, you know, here we go again with, you know, you're guilty until proven innocent. I don't like that. We just went through that with Justice Cavanaugh and he was innocent all the way. Are you kidding me? Brett Cavanaugh. You're going to bring bread caverns of this. Like how Trump's way of dealing with an extremely sensitive issue is to bring in another extremely sensitive issue. He's like here to discuss school shooting, special guest speaker, Bill Cosby. Everybody Cosby kids with the guns and the boom, boom being. I mean, poor supreme court Justice for life, bread cabin up. He just got finished with one giant controversy. And now you're going to drag him into another one. I mean, how, how do you feel about this Brett's I still like beer. My man. My man. But you know what's funny is in a way what Trump said, captures the truth in many ways. This is like the cavenaugh situation Trump says, he wants to find out what happened, but in reality, he's already made up his mind and you might be saying, oh, but Trevor, how do you know that the Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabians killed him? And how do you know this audience killed him? You not a detective and that's true, but my uncle was a detective. Got it. In my blood, we'll be right back. Up next is an extended interview with our guest. But before we get to that for many of us, the day doesn't start until we get that morning. Energy boost. I'm talking about coffee and now there's a new way to enjoy your daily Cup of Joe. Thanks to cafe monster available in vanilla, mocha insulted care, caramel cafe, monster shaking up the ready to drink coffee category within Dolgin gourmet coffee. That's only one hundred ninety calories not to mention one hundred fifty milligrams of caffeine from coffee beans, b. vitamins and coffee. Fruit extract cafe monster offers a simplified energy bun that contains third less sugar than the leading national brand. In fact, it's one hundred fewer calories per bottle, then the competition, but you'd never know by tasty. Instead you get all the same feeling flavors, your local coffee house, and you don't even have to wait in line cafe, monster, chill it down, shake it up. Enjoy all right now onto the interview. My guest tonight is the former mayor of San Antonio and secretary of housing and urban development for President Obama. He's written a memoir cold, an unlikely journey waking up from my American dream. Welcome Houlihan Castro. Welcome to the show good to be with you. This is so strange because we had your twin brother on the show. And so I feel like I met you on the show, but I haven't mentioned that he uses standard line that he that I'm a minute uglier than he is, is that what he says. This is an interesting time for you to be here for you to be coming out with this book for you to be, I guess, involved in politics in any way, shape or form. That's not at the beginning because that's where the bookstores from waking up from my American dream. What does that mean to you? Why that title? Well, to me, it means that in each generation in my family, starting with my grandmother who came in nineteen twenty two for Mexico as an orphan. We found out that it's not enough in America to just work hard and for your family to work hard that you also needed to work to improve society. My mother became a Mexican American civil rights activist. She ran for city council and San Antonio when she was twenty three in nineteen seventy-one tried to improve things for the community, and then my brother and I have always seen public service as a way basically to ensure that that people grow up and tough circumstances can achieve their American dream. It's also I think relevant today because what we see right now, our young people across the country, figuring out that they have a powerful voice, whether it's March for our lives students or any number of other activists, young people are leading the way pushing us to get better against an administration that is trying to take his backward, you, you, you have an administration previously. It was beloved by many. You worked in a position at HUD. Housing and urban development, Ben Qassem. Now has your job. When you see him now do you go like, wow, I didn't realize how many naps I could take. I with the work he's doing. You know, I have gotten asked more about that thirty one thousand dollar dining, housing. Housing policy question last years. He bought it. Yeah, you bought expensive furniture, but what do you think he's what? What do you make of the job that he's doing right now? And more importantly, what do you think that job is supposed to be about? The job is supposed to be about making sure that folks who are poor and who are middle-class, have housing opportunity. I mean people no matter where they live in the United States can see that the rent is going up going through the roof like right, easy, right? And folks are having to spend more and more of their income just to pay the rent at the same time, that department under that leadership doesn't have a commitment to the mission of HUD to expanding that opportunity. The White House wanted to cut the budget by six billion dollars. It was so weird because the people that we used to fight with in congress, the Republican congress, they actually they were the saviors and not cutting the HUD budget by six billion dollars. That's how bad it is. People that that that. Bay said, no, no, that's too much for us. You know, there's just not a commitment to the mission of the organization. We all at a time when America is at a crossroads twenty days away from the mature. Everyone says that this is going to be a referendum on Donald Trump. When you look at voter breakdown, you know you all Cooley on Castro and one of the things that people we speak to his like you are one of the faces that is emerging from the Democratic Party as someone who represents Hispanic or Latino voters, how they represent, have they wish to be represented? When you look at the vote numbers, though they sent America fifty, five percents of people consider themselves Tino planning to vote, which is low number relatively speaking. How do you think the Democratic Party and the Republicans have can get people out voting? I think that folks need to reach out to those communities where they are with the issues that matter to them and that it can't be one or two candidates in. It can't just be folk. WCHS trying to gin up registration and turn out six months before an election. There has to be a massive and sustained effort to get folks in Hispanic community registered to vote and then to turn out to vote. And and I think if that happens not only is that better for the Latino community better for our democracy. But I think that it's going to be better for the party that can demonstrate that they can meet their needs. And I believe that's the Democratic Party. It's interesting. It's interesting that you've kept your name as Julio Castro in a time. When you'll political opponents will obviously go off to that. You know, they'll go like, oh, another Castro, Fidel Castro, who Leon coming to take your jobs that's more of them. Are you prepared for that is something that you've actively chosen? And I'll be like, I'm Julian Castro what you know in the book. I write that in school when I was growing up in school, even though my name is Leon. The teachers would call me Julian and it wasn't. I went to college where you can kind of define yourself starts? No, it's early on, but I was thinking the other day because I'm I'm considering running in twenty twenty that I've always had the accent over my a in my name rights that I bet if I did that on the sign that that would be the first time that anybody has run for president with the accent and accent over a letter. Allow something to say something that's simple, but that's who you are and you should run who you are. So so let's. Let's talk about that little nugget that slipped in. Now we running. I will be. I don't choose will be running for president. I did not say. I do that all the time. Yes, I've been running. Twenty twenty is on the horizon. People are looking going who will represent the Democratic Party. And right now looks like there are one hundred people in the running. Some people are concerned by this saying that is that not going to create an abrasive atmosphere with Democrats destroying themselves before the race. How do you feel about that? Somebody who may be considered as one of the smaller candidates in in the running right now? I actually think we need that coming out of two thousand sixteen warranted or not. There was a lot of bitterness. And so I believe that having fifteen or twenty people running is actually going to be cathartic for the Democratic Party where you have a whole bunch of debates, people feel like everybody had their say, and they're part of the political spectrum in the party was represented. And then at the end of the day, that's going to make the eventual nominee stronger, right. And more likely to defeat Donald Trump or Mike pants, or whoever it is in November. Let me. Let me ask you this, then let me ask you this. If you were to get to that point, do you genuinely believe that you could go toe to toe with Donald Trump? Understanding that there is no skeleton in his closet. Like he is the skeleton in the closet. Do you realize there's no much like you? Do you like? Do you understand the gravity of the situation up against somebody who's like he's talking point proof? He is the Teflon Don. Nothing gets. What do you think you would do differently going up against Donald Trump? I would say two things that first of all I decide to run. I don't think that that you're going to be Donald Trump by trying to be Donald Trump if. Watch a lot of boxing, if you watch boxing or sports or other things, you see that oftentimes people that are considered invincible are not beaten by somebody that has exactly the same skill set by somebody that has a different style, but maybe more importantly. It's the folks who have been hopeful and optimistic and painted a strong vision for the future. That, especially as Democrats have prevailed you think about in the modern era Kennedy or Carter when he ran represented a break from scandal rights or Clinton when he ran or of course, maybe the best example Barack Obama too. I think that the next nominee has to be able to stand up to Donald Trump and to call him out, but also to speak directly to the American people and offer a strong hopeful vision for the future. It's going to be said and see what happens. Unlikely journey is available now after everybody. Daily show cover? No. Here's a dish. Watch the daily show. Weeknights at eleven ten central on comedy, central and comedy central watch episodes and videos at the daily show dot com. On Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, and subscribe to the show on YouTube exclusive content and move. This has been a comedy central podcast.

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Ep. 888 The Democrats Are Descending into Madness

The Dan Bongino Show

59:22 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 888 The Democrats Are Descending into Madness

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan bongino. I welcome. The Dan Bongino show will be an ensemble of liberal myth busting a Cornu copious. Of of debunking liberal nod sets today so much liberal nonsense came out over the weekend. I couldn't wait to get back on the air today producer, Joe, how are you today? Your mega high speed new internet connection there you doing? All right. You see what it did to my hair? Don't you know? In a different light. Now, I'm seeing oil spots on his four you're going to have to use one of those oil strips. I have to use on on FOX, those what a clean and clear rubber like plastic sheets and take the oil, I call your home squeegees. Yeah. In squeeze oil squeezy. While squeegees on your face. I know I very greasy too. But a great connection with pump and a lot of money through the studio folks, just before we get going big news coming up about a couple of different things my future what's going on. If you're interested. If not I understand, but some of you may just be here for the content and also some stuff Joe, and I are putting together for you for the show that I think will be very eye-opening. You're going to love it. All right. I want to start out. I wanna hit two things today. The myth of the ninety percent tax rate. That is now a dude Alexandria Cossio Cortez far left, radical congresswoman from New York and Hooghly on Castro. Who's now going to announce he's running for president? Former Obama administration official are now pumping seventy sixty seventy ninety percent tax rates. There are so many miss out there. I wanna hit that. And I also want to hit a myth that was on on. Chris Wallace is FOX show this weekend about the terrorists crossing. 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There's an argument brewing within the conservative circle and space right now. And I understand that that we should ignore Alexandria Cossio Cortez. I'm telling you what some folks are saying they're out there. They're saying, listen, she's the she's a left wing radical first term congressman or giving her too much attention. If we would just leave it alone. You know, she she would go away and she's not going away. She won a seat in congress. And you know, what for that? She has my respect on that front ID. Theologically I have no respect for because they're just dumb, and they've been debunked by facts data and history. But she did win a seat in congress. She is not going away. She has millions of followers on social media. She's charismatic and us ignoring that is exactly exactly what the left did Donald Trump. They tried to play down his influence upon Americans who felt left behind by the political process. And look what we did we slam them right in the face with a huge electoral college victory. Let's not make the same mistake with people like oh, Cossio Cortez. Granted she's too young to run for president. But her influence over the party is substantial we are moving towards a dangerous form of liberalism. It's moving away from. Let's say high tax rates to confess Katori tax rates. It's moving away from government intervention in the healthcare system to government takeovers of the healthcare system. It's moving away from infringements on liberty to outright confiscations of your liberty. We can't ignore ignore it. What I mean? What's your? I don't get the logic. There. These ideas have to be challenged. I had to put that out there because I'm telling you, I my life is content content. Production for you. And this is a significant debate going on right now in conservative circles if people like oh, Cossio Cortez. Should just be ignored do not ignore them this ideology, she's promoting of the government confiscation of your money. Your healthcare you liberty and your freedom is pernicious and dangerous. She's not the only one. No, she's not the only one. That's why I mentioned Hooghly on Castro. And others who are now. Promoting confiscatory tax rates have upwards of ninety percent joke. You up play the Cossio Cortez. This was her on sixty minutes this weekend with Anderson Cooper in a in a rather lengthy interview they conducted, but one of the criticisms of you is that your math is fuzzy the Washington Post recently warded you for Pinocchio for misstating Simpson's six Pentagon spending. If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there. I would argue that they're missing the forest for the trees, I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely factually and semantically correct been about being morally, right? But being factually, correct is important absolutely important. And whenever I make a mistake. I say, okay, this was clumsy. And then I restate what my point was. But it's it's not the. Same thing as the president lying about immigrants. It's not the same thing at all. Okay. That's an outright lie. She does not restate her point Amaechi clumsy. She doesn't she rarely does that what she does is. She claims the Repub Republicans pound show, Republicans and conservatives are pouncing on her mistake. And she she plays the victim card. That is not what she does the mistake. She made she was awarded four Pinocchio s- by the Washington Post fact checker the Washington Post, not the Washington time, the liberal Washington Post award and her four Pinocchio is the biggest lie designation possible was her assertion that. There was nearly twenty one trillion dollars and Pentagon savings this. It was so absurd. I'm having a tough time categorizing what she meant that we could pay for government controlled healthcare. The gist of her statement was by saving money from the Pentagon. There was upwards of twenty trillion dollars or twenty one trillion dollars in savings that is that figure is so. So ridiculous. The entire government budget for this year less. She was only around four trillion dollars where she came up with a twenty one trillion dollars seven times, our annual budget figure is so absurd. Outrageous. And she does not correct them and say, she's clumsy and the way she just stated she plays the victim card all the time. Ladies and gentlemen, she cannot be ignored. Now. I played that. Because there's another thing she said, she's like, well, all you people out there focused on, you know, the facts and the semantics and precision, no precision matters miss Cortes, precision matters. You are now a lawmaker you are lawmaker with massive responsibilities at you aren't your job. I'm not knocking that I ran for congress. Listen, folks, I lost. I fought hard it sucks. It hurts every day. I'm sorry. I lost. I couldn't get it done. It was a massively democratic seat. I did my best. We came within one point. I put my name on that line. No one full. Well, the consequences of a winner a loss. It was hard. But I'm proud of what I did. I'm proud of the effort I put in. But I didn't win she managed to win against the various stab slow maker. And I mean it for that. She has my respect it's hard to do. But she does not have my respect for stating illogical things. And then. Claiming victim status and then lying about how she oh. I just claim. I'm clumsy something that is not what you do think. But nothing happens. That's right. Nothing is happening connections aren't made Norani's or not connecting here saying some nonsense like, oh, well, facts and stuff, it's the general point about it. She sums up the entire essence of liberalism in one absurd. Outrageous statement, this is liberalism. Joe this why I wanted to play this cut. I, sir. I sent it to Joe yesterday liberalism. Don't worry folks this liberalism in one statement. By miss Cortes. Don't worry about the facts. It's just the general point the emotions around it that matter. No, it's not the facts do matter. We are limited in a national economy dictated by tax flows and tax revenues. We eliminated. We are. We are limited excuse me by actual facts. Like the amount of money coming in the amount of debt going out by facts. Like what the interest rate is going to be facts. Like what the volume of money coming into the government's going to be on any given cycle to finance programs. You want to support this stuff matters. It's not about emotion. Now, I bring this up because in the same interview she's been proposing and Hooghly on cash show up this game. You see folks we're in a dangerous spot right now is why it's it's a debunk Thon the left in this presidential twenty twenty election. We now seen Elizabeth Warren come out and announce Houlihan Castro who is an Obama cabinet level official. Is now a former Texas elected. We've he was a mayor somewhere. They're going to come out now, and they are going to start announcing what's going to happen is Joe you're going to see this race to the liberal bottom. You're going to see them all trying to out radical each other. For the votes of progressive liberal base voters in a primary you're going to see one person like oh, Cossio Cortez in this interview with Anderson Cooper who proposes a seventy sixty seventy percent marginal tax rate. Houlihan Castro comes out one up, sir. Joe? Well, what about a ninety percent tax rate? The Democrats are in a race to the bottom. They know liberal voters are upset they know the whole entire liberal movement has been taken over by radicalism. They are now lobbying for economic confiscation. And basically had a ninety percent tax rate at a certain marginal tax rate government control of your money where you keep ten percent in the government takes ninety. Folks, here's the now, here's their argument. Remember what I told you about how liberals work one of the best things you can do. And one of the reasons I really listen, I get it. Some of you may not may think there's some kind of vested interest in me saying this. This is not this is from my heart. One of the reasons I've always appreciated the opportunity to debate on FOX because I read your feedback a lot of you love it. I'd say ninety percent of the emails about my debates on judge Janine with Chris Han might debates on the five with Marie Harf ninety percent of the emails positive ten percent of them. Not so much. They say listen, Dan, I like your stuff, but I don't wanna I can't tolerate the liberal side of it, folks. I'm telling you listen to me. That's a mistake at mistake. It's the best thing FOX does. Why why does it matter to you? Because folks these debate. Yes, yes, Joe. He's pointing to his Mellon is knocking these debates are not going to go away you as conserve. Libertarians Republicans and even moderate Democrats. Listen to this show are smart. I know you're smart. I read your emails. They're brilliant brilliant. I'm not kidding. I wish you would allow me to post some of my post Email of the week. And you all I put it on my website, and you can read it and be like darn that's a smart audience. You guys ladies out? There are brilliant. But the reason you're brilliant is because you're conservatives and you've been subjected to media academic and liberal propaganda for so long you've been forced to discover the facts and the data on your own in this you become very irrigate and educated just by fighting back against the non stop onslaught of liberal propaganda. Liberals don't have to do that liberals are bathed in it. It's the defacto default position in Hollywood. And academia and the media. There's nothing to fight Bada gig back against it's considered the default status of true. You have had educate yourself to find out that it is. In fact, not true. It's made you sharp. It's made you frosty. It's made you intellectually sound than a debate having these liberals come on these shows the five and these other shows judge Janine right debate on is a brilliant move because it exposes you to their focus group tested talking points and forces you to think this stuff through that way, when you encounter it and your political life your activists life or you encounter, your neighbors who can be convinced that the run the wrong side of the ideological spectrum, your liberal, neighbors, you are already prepared with the mental ammunition you need to go to battle in the debate with them. That's the purpose of this show. Now, I bring this up because this race to the bottom is going to be dictated now to justify this increasing call for higher tax rates co Cossio Cortez's call for sixty seventy percent marginal rate and Castro's call for a ninety percent rate is going to be dictated by nonsense liberal talking points, which listened to me they are all going to share. And the talking point out there now is will the economy didn't do so bad in the fifties. And sixties when we had a ninety percent tax rate. So why shouldn't we do it again? Now. Folks. Please. This is a garbage nonsense. Talking point resident fact checker into bunker. Matt Palumbo was kind enough to put together a pretty exhaustive yet. Short piece at the same. That's loaded with facts in short format on my website. The bunking the myth that the ninety percent tax rate against the rich was the Genesis of our economic success in the fifties and sixties the pieces up at Bongino dot com. The pieces also in my show notes leading the pack. Please subscribe to my Email us, I'll send it to you. I will hit some of the important points here and right now. So you have what you need to fight back against your liberal friends. This is just search Twitter. Search social media. This is going to be their argument that a ninety percent tax rate was good for the economy in the fifties. And sixties point number one, the bunking this nonsense. Ladies and gentlemen, stated and posted tax rates are largely irrelevant effective tax rates matter. What's the difference? Just because a tax rate is ninety percent. A post. Nominal tax rate. Does not mean that's the rate. People are paying the federal government of their revenue why because in the fifties and sixties and exhaustive list of deductions and loopholes existed, which got the very wealthy folks who were forced to pay that ninety percent tax rate in real money at the time in the fifties. And sixties it was roughly people who made over three million dollars there were exhaustive deductions and loopholes were only a small portion of the population in the fifties. And sixties was actually even subjected to that rate. So we should ask ourselves. Well, if they got out of paying the rate, what was the effective rate people paid in contrast to today, if your suggestion is massive hikes and taxes the top marginal rate now is roughly thirty seven percent, folks. If you're talking about a top marginal rate over forty to fifty points higher where we are now. Depending if you go with radical who on Castro's policy or radical oh, Cossio Cortez's policy forty to fifty points higher. Forty to fifty points higher. You should at least be able to make the case that the effective tax rates of the day were substantially higher to you can't because you'd be wrong. The effective tax rate in the sixties was roughly about thirty one percent. In contrast to mid two thousands of roughly now about twenty five to twenty eight percent. Depending on the last available accumulated data we have from the IRS. In other words, you're talking about a difference of a few percentage points and the effective rate. You see what I'm saying Joe, the effective rate wealthy folks were paying across the economy in the sixties was roughly thirty one percent. Keep in mind the worship advantage on the corporate side as well. The effective rate today between twenty five and twenty eight percent. You may say well still higher fine. That's fine. It was I'm not by the way. I make no mistake. Here. I am not arguing that the taxes should be higher at all the taxes should be lower. When when the when the top margin rate was twenty eight percent in the Reagan era, what it was lowered to twenty eight percent. We had growth rates of six five and four percent. A massive explosion in government revenue as well. As the economy grew bigger pie. Government. Even got a smaller percentage slice of the pie. The pie was so big. They got more money. So if they can explain to me the difference between affective rates and marginal rates, I'd love to hear it. They won't explain that though because they're arguing for a massive thirty forty fifty point hike in the top marginal rate when the answer on the effective rate is only a few points higher. Joe is this point making sense. Yes, it is the your posted weight of ninety percent, nobody paid it. It applied to less than point zero two percent of filers applied to I'm not suggesting those filers even paid that. I'm saying it only applied to point zero two percent of filers because it was three million dollars or above. Also, if you look at Matt's peace upon Gino dot com about the ninety percent tax rate. Ask your liberal friends. I to explain the ninety percent rate. Great ask them the simple question. What was the effective rate? Listen, they won't know the answer. You now do so the effective rate was close to thirty percent. The effective rate now is twenty five to twenty eight percent a miniscule difference. It wasn't a forty point difference. Also, ask them what the revenue collected by the government as a percentage of GDP was obviously going by nominal dollars isn't irrelevant number because of inflation. We could correct for today's dollars. But the way they collect tax revenue and they measure tax revenue. Joe is as a as a portion of the GDP as a percentage of GDP. In other words, all we produce. What percentage of what we produces taken in taxes? Ladies and gentlemen, you realize that number has been steadily nineteen to twenty percent despite the rate being ninety percent seventy percent. Twenty eight percent thirty five percent thirty nine point six percent. And thirty seven percent. It's now you may be saying this doesn't make any sense. So the government's taking in generally the same amount of money despite the top rate that'll Cossio Cortez wants up to seventy percent and Castro wants to ninety percent. You're saying that how is it that the money that comes into the government is the? Same. Folks. It's very simple. When you up the top marginal tax rate to upwards of ninety percent where it wasn't the fifties. And sixties you went power a whole lot of accountants to find rich people's way. Rich people a golden path out of it. And they're not paying that they're paying accountants. They're investing in Muny bonds. They're they're setting up trust. They're not gonna pay it. It's called Hauser's law. Houser a financial analyst I believe from the west coast who determine that regardless of the top rates in the United States the amount of money confiscated by the government is roughly seventeen to twenty percent of the economy. Every time look at the charts in the peace folks, Matt's peace look at the charts. The the blue line flat percentage of GDP in tax revenue. Nineteen twenty percent look at the marginal tax rates. It goes all over the place show up down up down up. You tax rate goes up by counts. Get rich tax rates. Go down accountants, get less, rich and people pay their taxes. It's as simple as that. Remember tax evasion is a legal. Tax avoidance is a national pastime. Packs of ordinances, not illegal tax evasion is tax avoidance by taking advantage of legal. Loopholes is not illegal. It's by by definition tautological. It's not only it's the law. I can take advantage of depreciation schedule. Okay. I'll do that. That's a tax avoidance measure John Kerry park in his boat and Rhode Island whatever he did to avoid paying taxes. This is what Democrats do. Everybody. Does it? Folks, look at the charts. Democrats can't explain that away. And I wanna make a couple more points on this. Point number one was just so we doubt back a bit and rehearse where we are. So we have these arguments ready for a liberal friends point number one. They're going to test it and listen to me this argument is going to get hot and heavy the tax rates in the fifties were ninety percent and the sixties and look at the economy that it grew. And by the way that ninety percent tax rate was instituted under Truman, not Eisenhower. So I believe around nine hundred fifty one dope by that nonsense by the left those tax rates were not effective tax rates. They weren't what people actually paid. They paid about. Thirty one percent about twenty five twenty eight percent. Now second point you're going to hear them try to make which is even more disingenuous. You heard Alexandria Cossio Cortez against say it in her Anderson Cooper interview, it's time for the rich to pay their fair share. This is just okay, it's dumb because they never tell you what their fair share is the wealthy because when they tell you the share they pay now. It sounds like more than a fair. Share matter of fact, it sounds like on fair share. Ladies and gentlemen. The top one percent of tax payers. One out of one hundred tax payers currently pays thirty seven point three percent of the tax load one out of one hundred taxpayers. Those blessed with success pay thirty seven point three percent. Think about what I'm telling you one out of one hundred people paying taxes pays over thirty seven percent of every dollar in taxes to the government. Please explain to me if you can which you cannot how that is a fat. That's not a fair share. The top ten percent of earners earners earn your money here. The top ten percent of earners show. Pay sixty nine percent of the tax load in this country. Ten out of every one hundred people. Ten out of every one hundred people pay nearly seventy cents of every tax dollar coming into the government. Please explain to me again miss Cortes with all due respect to your victory in your position right now. You have a prominent voice. What percentage should the top ten percent pay? If seventy percent of the tax load isn't enough try explaining that to the people who've worked for a living to grind their way out of lower income categories middle-class categories finally have some money in their lives, by the way. A lot of these people are seniors Jove accumulated some capital wealth over a lifetime of grinding. You bet and hard work and arthritic, shoulders and joints in hands from your labor and strong investments and delaying gratification. You finally have capital. You are now paying seventy percent of the tax load, and miss Cortez, and Mr. Castro want, even more. Explain that. Get them on the record. Joe get them on the record. All right. I've got one more here that really upsets me on this. Don't go anywhere. I wanna make sure you hear this because this has got me fired up to very upset about this. All right folks today show also brought to you buddies at blinking. 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The first question to them should be listened to me, if you believe if you believe that giving your money the government is going to lead to some net. Good for society your point here. I assume let me make your point clear for you. Because liberals never make their point clear because operation is the name of the game with them. Okay. Joe if this point doesn't make sense immediately stopped me it is critical. You do. I, sir. We already punked the ninety percent myth and the effective rate. We already debunked the nonsense rich pay their fair share. But here is a critical critical point the point. They're trying to make is we should be paying more of our money to the government if we're successful upwards of ninety percent because the government is a net positive in our life that leads to societal benefits, positive externalities and direct effects, right? The governments are good thing. That's what they're saying. They're not arguing of if you listen to them that get more to your money the government because the government stinks. That's not what they're saying. They're suggesting to you that government is some net positive force in your life and therefore turning over more of your assets turning over more of your income and working hard daily to finance the government not your own wellbeing. Your family's well being is somehow going to lead to a better life for you. That is their point. Now, I ask you this, and you should be asking your liberal friends immediately respond to them when they suggest these fiscal, Tori ninety percent tax rates. Why don't you pay that rate now? Why that's a terrible idea. Why don't you pay? Now, Joe it is voluntary's, right? There is a box that posted tax rates. You have to pay income tax tables are minimum rates, folks. I have to pay as a portion of my income about I don't know thirty to thirty seven percent, depending on what kind of deductions we get it for you. I can't pay less than that. But I can pay more give it up baby. Give it up. You know? Why Joe why do you think I pay more? Why would I not want to pay more? Why would I not want? It's not a trick. Why would I not want to get my money to go? Why don't you because I worked for it? And. And. And the government is a disaster with your money right outside of our military and our courts, and some basic constitutional functions of government the government largely flushes your money down a toilet bowl. I'm not a hypocrite. I believe government's not a net force for good in your life. I believe the government's obstacle to your prosperity. Hence, the Bill of rights, which is supposed to limit the government and the constitution as well. What they can do. Article one section eight was supposed to limit. The powers of congress stated what they do. And what happened we've had this expansive outrageous role of government our life that they're now suggesting that what you work past a certain point upwards of ninety percent of your time should be spent working to finance the government. Do it. Now, liberals, go ahead and pay lead, by example. Nobody's stopping you tax seasons in effect right now, you're all getting your forms in the mail. You're all getting your people are dishing out W twos. Ten ninety nine all kinds of different tax forms. You're getting together with your accountant tell your account you want to pay ninety percent show us start a petition online liberals or everybody signed it tell you what block out all the personal data post your receipt post. Your check to the government showing us you paid ninety percent of your income, you want Trump's tax returns show yours. Start the movement. Start a big national movement lead. By example. None of you frauds will do it. Now. One of you listening. We'll do it. Because you don't believe government is a net force for good in your life. You know, it's a fraud. This is a power trip for you. This is about the theft of other people's money to control their time their assets and their economic output. You are frauds. Then I can prove your frauds? Because Joe, and I believe in charity. Yes, sir. There is no legal obligation whatsoever. For me, Joe or any of our listeners to donate money to charity nun. But we do it. Why I donate time and money. I'm not believe me. I am in no way saying this to be self laudatory at all I making a simple philosophical point, not a moral one. The philosophical point making here is on principle. I believe the charities and the things I give money to our forces for a net. Good and society. I believe my money in the case of our donation of the scholarship fund for the store, the setting up with a store on our website, where we donate all of our proceeds to charity, and we'll continue to if you'd like to help the chumps store all of our all of them. Go to charity. We just wrote a nice check. Thanks to you. Why did we do that? I could have kept in. It's my store. I get I'm not even making the moral point. Because I believe that money that you guys donated eighteen thousand plus dollars. You didn't donate you bought shirts. But you get the point you defacto donated. I believe that eighteen thousand dollars will serve a better societal good giving scholarships that three kids whose families can't afford their education. A pretty good local school here. We'll do far more good than it could for me right now. I believe that. But I don't believe giving that government given that money. The government will do anything other than get it flushed down the toilet and wasted on a bunch of nonsense liberal programs that do nothing to better our society, and frankly, candidly, make it worse and liberals I've got news for you. You believe the same darn thing. There is no legal penalty. If I don't donate to charity, but me and thousands and millions of other conservative Americans donate substantial portions of their time and their money to charitable causes despite no legal obligation to do. So because they believe. Because they believe it works. They believe it's good. It's benevolent. They believe it is the right thing to do. Why don't you do the same? If governments your charity and government is such a positive force in your life. Then why don't you just donate more? Why? Why do you refuse this spike constantly trying to claim the assets hard, work, blood, sweat, and tears of others? Why do you adamantly refuse you phony fraud hypocrites to give an extra dime of your money to government? As a matter of fact, your double frauds? Not only do you insist on not giving extra money the government, despite your absurd ridiculous disingenuous claims that it is somehow a force for positive good. No lives. You actually do your best a lot of leadership liberals like John Kerry, Hillary Clinton and others you do everything in your power to avoid paying taxes. To avoid it. It's absurd. You are frauds. Go ahead. Pay more stand up stand for something. Stop being the phonies. You are the next time miss Cortes, or Mr. Castro or miss Warren. Liz with Warren bring up these ridiculous tax claims your first question media, people should be you think this is a net. Good for society. I'm curious. Are you paying those tax rates up? No, I'm not paying why not I thought you believed. I thought you believed. You don't believe you're frauds. Oh, well, my money's not gonna make a difference. That's what we say. With charity. My money does make a difference. My money does make a difference, sir. I know some local kid three of them. As a matter of fact their lives are being changed because if your generosity. I know that I'm not suggesting that this was some kind of cure all that society's ills have been have been fixed. But I know my money makes a difference. By knowledge ING that your individual tax. Donations will not make a difference. You are arguing for the very futility of the government. You support you fake phony frauds? I'm daring some entrepreneurial media type daring them to ask MS. Cortes, miss Warren. Mr. Castro Bernie Sanders and anyone else running for president. What rates they pay? Daring them. You watch the ants. All right. I want to get to this. By the way, one quick note before I move onto my next story because the talking points out there, the liberals are just growing and magnifying and you need to be armed with the information to fight back. Folks. There's been a manufacturing renaissance center down under Donald Trump. It is frequently gets lost in the outstanding economic numbers. We had three hundred twelve thousand jobs created knows monthly figures. I gave you on Friday show, which which it's just a staggering number. It was nearly double the estimate that the job creation numbers. But one quick note on this because remember your liberal friends claim to be a champion of the working class. The manufacturing men and women people who work on these lines used their blood, sweat, and tears and get dirt under their fingernails to build American. Thank you for everything you do a sincere heartfelt from the bottom of my heart. Thank you for busting your caboose to make sure we have the products and services, we need. You work hard. I did manual labor for a long time ain't easy. Cleaned a lot of MAs LIAM's loaded. A lot of grocery cases, lifted gush at ten thousand boxes on delivery lines in the back of a supermarket. It's rough. Cleaned a lot of cars painted a lot of houses folks with frequently forgotten is the manufacturing renaissance under Donald Trump. I thought the liberals rented for the little guy working man, ladies and gentlemen, how many manufacturing jobs, you think created were created net in the Obama administration created. I'm going to ask you to get your because I know if you don't know these numbers, I would say none because it's a negative number. They lost twenty thousand. So let's just do a basic comparison here. Joe Joe, you're Jay's advocates. We haven't brought out these advocates. Yes, grab it. This for those who are new listeners. This was a frequent component of our show a long time ago. We had a new listener named Jay who sent us an Abacus. This is where we do difficult. Math equations. Okay. So Joe the Obama administration manufacturing jobs is that negative twenty thousand gonna turn he lost. So get the Abacus here. I want you to tell me what a bigger number is. Okay. Remember that Obama was in it for the little guy manufacturing? Yeah. Yeah. Donald Trump has only been in office for now two years roughly two years now. How many manufacturing jobs? Do you think? Donald Trump administration has lost like the Obama team. Did the answer is none. They have gained four hundred thousand. So get the Abacus. What is the bigger number negative twenty thousand manufacturing jobs under Obama or is the bigger number positive four hundred thousand under Trump do the Abacus move things around and please tell the liberals what the bigger numbers. Moving it around. I see him working Abacus. Yeah. Trump's got bigger numbers bay. Thank you. Joe J J the listener was kind enough to send us the advocates because liberals have a difficult time with simple match. It's right. You double Chan four hundred thousand is bigger than negative. Yes. You thank you and shout out to Jay again. You're advocates always comes. Because people that ask us who J Zappa kisses. There is no jas Abacus. It's Jay's advocates you all this. There's no that would be the beginning. We used to use it all the time. We haven't brought that know it's getting a little just so, you know, for facts or really stubborn thing. Right. Four hundred thousand jobs manufacturing jobs, created under Trump negative twenty thousand eight years of Obama. Dog and don't let that get into wave. Another dopey liberal arts. How about that about that? Is we could baseball. All right final read the day. Thanks. This is a great company. I love express VPN museum everywhere. All the recent news about security breaches online. It's hard not to worry where all your data goes the always freaks me out making it online purchase or simply accessing your Email could put your private info at risk you being tracked online by social media sites, marketing companies your mobile or internet provider. You know, it you ever talk about something like Facebook at random fears on Facebook. 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I'll tell you what I'm the president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border. And here's secretary of homeland security Neal's off. CPS stopped over three thousand what we call special interest aliens trying to come into the country in the southern border. Those are aliens who the Intel community has a dentist side are of concern, but special interest aliens are just people who come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist or not terrorists themselves and the State Department says that there is quote their words, no credible. Evidence of any terrorists coming across the border from Mexico. We know that roughly nearly four thousand known or suspected terrorists come into our country illegally. And we know that are most vulnerable point of entry is at this. I didn't know if we're gonna use it. But I studied up on this, do, you know, where those four thousand people come where they're captured airports, not always terrible, certainly stage. Apartment says there hasn't been any terrorist found coming by air land. And it's all right. Let's dig into this. Now Wallace is job is is to play the the middle. He's a news guys opinion guy. Chris Wallace job is the call out what he believes to be misstated facts on both sides. I'm not just saying this because I do work if that's his job if he's supposed to call up, and he's using a what he believes to be a fact by the State Department that is just wrong. I don't know what to say. It's just not accurate. There have been incidents of now notice how they the nuance there though. Terror-related suspects. There's no no documented cases a lot folks. All of this stuff is basically nuanced. Political speak meant to the the fact that yes terror associated terror-related suspects have been caught at the southern border. This is not even mysterious. Let's go down and break it down, by the way. Politic fact, which is a left. It's a joke. It's not even like a serious site, but they're left leaning propagandists. Even politic fact, which is supposedly a fact checker it's really a left-leaning site this left leaning editorial site disguises. The fact checkers even acknowledged themselves that people who've made the claims notably round the Santa's who's going to be the governor elect here would Florida who have made claims about terrorists associated suspects trying to cross the southern border. He they designated that mostly true. I put the I rarely political stuff in my show notes today, but read it yourself. Here are some of the highlights from that piece and others from political fact. If further stated that talking about a report that one US citizen had smuggled two hundred seventy two Somalis and TV United States to Cuban Mexico until January of twenty ten although he claimed he had been approached by al-shabaab a terror group members for help supporting people he said, he refused. The report said, okay, you say all right. Well, he said he refused. Maybe he didn't smugly terrorist despite acknowledging a terror group wanted him to smuggle people across the border. And in fact, he helped smuggle two hundred seventy two Somalis in. This is it goes on. I'm not done also detained is at the southern border. We're three Sri Lankans one of whom said he was a member of the Liberation Tigers of to me Allom and was on his way to Canada, by the way, a terror group folks that this is the easiest punking Bob just reading to you. What's open source information? You can look yourself. The state DiPoto told you that from the State Department. I'm not sure. Did they read this report? Goes on. There are many more instances, and what was detailed by Texas officials to a two thousand six house committee on homeland security reports said that quote. Show who you're going to take the word of the State Department of homeland security. Here's a homeland security hands down omen securing. Here's a quote each year, hundreds of illegal aliens from countries known to harbor terrorists. Or promote terrorism are found trying to cross the border along the Rio Grande valley. It said members of Hezbollah have already entered the United States across the border prior to two thousand and five. We missing something here. Here's a report from immigration reform dot com. Discussing CIs report which center for immigration. Studies approach I'll get to in a second. The report cites amongst others. The case of Islamic convert Virginia native Anthony Joseph Tracy who was prosecuted for providing two hundred seventy Somalis with fraudulently obtained Kenyan passports Cuban visas and travel documentation to help them be smuggled across the US border. According to twenty ten prosecution records, Tracy admitted the terrorist organization. Al Shabaab asked him to provide fraudulent travel documents to its operatives in court, it these are court documents in court investigators produce an Email from Tracy to an associate in which he admitted I helped a lot of Somalis and most they're good. But there are some who are bad, and I leave them to Allah. I had a tweet about this this weekend because liberal media types jumped on this clip from Wallace and Wallace's doing his things what he does he's going to go after both sides, and he's going to do background information. Just the background investigation. He got by beef. This is wrong. At liberal media types from outlets that are slanted far left jumped all over this like look Trump's promoting and Sarah Sanders debunked talking point that terrorists and terror related suspects have tried to cross the border southern border. They did you miss this stuff. Here's CIs dot org. Joe center firma Gration studies. Here's a report from them the key findings from their backgrounder from only public realm reporting. In other words, you can look this up yourself. Fifteen suspected terrorists have been apprehended at the US Mexico border or in route since two thousand and one. This likely represents Joe a significant undercount since most information reflecting border crossers resides in classified or protected government archives and intelligence database. Well is a sucker punch to the goats. It sure is bad. Sure. Stories. One more affiliations, including Al Shabaab ISIS. Hezbollah the 'Timeo Tigers. They've all been with these a fifth people. But these groups have all been nailed at the southern border. At least fifteen of them were prosecuted for crimes in North American courts. Folks. This is publicly available information. You can look up yourself. I get tired of doing this. I don't get tired of the fight. I get tired of the bunking easily refuted nonsensical liberal talking points. That'll probably gate it in the liberal ecosystem as if they're fact and then use this as as fodder to attack. Trump Trump keeps promoting this debunked took the bump to what there have been terrorists. Associated suspects nail trying to cross the southern Puerto. That's a fact can you not do basic research? We're living in a post fact, pseudo intellectual society, where journalists types are exclusively there to gaslight you to lie to you over and over and over again and repeatedly in an effort to get you to believe that reality is not in fact, real. Oh my gosh. Is it frustrating? Folks, guys just want to rewind a little bit before I get to my last point because today's show is important. I we slam the liberals on their tax policy nonsense. No, the wealthy did not pay ninety percent tax rates in the fifties. And sixties that was not an is in our policy. It was done under the Truman administration. The effective rates were thirty percent roughly compared to the twenty five to twenty eight percent now in other words, roughly the same tax revenue to the government is a percentage of GDP is the same because wealthier people got to be experts and paying good accounts and getting out of these ninety percent tax rates. Secondly, Hauser's law the amount of money into the government's been consistent, regardless of what the tax rates is. That's a simple fact look at the charts and Matt's peace finally liberals of frauds? They suggest tax rates. They're not willing to pay themselves because they don't believe this. Money's going to contribute to a net. Good society. It will be flushed down the collective government. Toilet bowl. Like nearly every other dollar you give to a broken government. Second point I made about the manufacturing renaissance. It's been robust under Donald Trump. It was an absolute failure under Obama who claims to support the middle class themselves. Third point today terrorists have tried to cross the southern border terrorists. Associated suspects have repeatedly tried to cross the southern border. It's public source information. Also, it's likely a significant undercount because many of these cases of terrorist being apprehended at the southern border are classified or not available to the government. Even left leaning political fact the bunk, this silly nonsense that no terror-related suspects have been trying to cross the border. It's not true. I'm sorry. It's immediate. It's Christmas job that do that. But the facts he got we're not facts, they were myths. I don't know what the State Department told them that. But they should check with homeland security. They should read the news. My last point for the day. Regarding this ongoing government partial government shutdown. Folks, I said something FOX this week. I'd and the five I want you to really consider especially if you're a moderate democrat. You just coming around the Republican ideas, you found my podcast with friend or something, you know, you agree with some of what I say, you don't agree with other stuff. That's fine. You are welcome. You don't have to anything. I say, you're always welcome. Don't you find it a little odd that collectively as a country we pay four trillion dollars for an entity that has been partially shut down pulled closing in on twenty days soon. And almost nobody is noticed the difference in their lives at all. Think about that. Think about how useless Aventure government is become in your life. That you pay four trillion dollars a year Alexandria Cortes and only cash want you to pay upwards of ninety percent of your income past a certain rate of earnings. They want you to work ninety percent of the time to finance an entity that costs four trillion dollars has been partially shut down for days. And almost nobody has noticed the difference. Now, I thought of an analogy Joe. An analogy to make this make a little bit more sense for some of our liberal friends who may be having a difficult time with this. Yes, sir. Joe you have a smartphone. Yes. I do. What brand is it an injury, Android, right? I have an apple I have an iphone may ask a simple question or to our audience if a corporate entity worth a fraction of four trillion dollars like apple or or Google, Android or Samsung that manufacturers the phones right? If a corporate entity worth thousands, one one thousand less that fraction a decimal point of what the federal government is air quotes worth to you, and therefore trillion dollar enterprise. If they were to shut down for ten days. Do you understand the chaos that wouldn't sue can you imagine if your IRS simply your upper your apple operating system, simply stopped functioning if they just shut down. If you're if you're if I phones just stopped working. There was no tech support. Nothing, ladies and gentlemen. This is an enterprise worth a sliver a hair on the grain of sand on the beach of government. If it shut down for ten minutes. There would be mass chaos, man. Not like apple. I'm not a huge fan ally. Do I bought some stock recently you may not be a fan of Google? I'm certainly not I wish these companies would stop the liberal propaganda nonsense. Right. Yeah. But let's be candid these are free market enterprises. If they shut down for ten minutes. There would be chaos yet. A four trillion dollar enterprise shuts down for what may be up to twenty days maybe up to a month soon. And no one's life is skipped a beat outside of people employed by that very same enterprise. You don't think think about what I try explain that one away to your liberal neighbors? How useless and entity government is become in your life. Despite the massive effort, you have put forth to finance this disaster. A good point. And the Joe I'm sorry. I don't mean to be know self congratulatory. I just thought about them this morning. I said it on the on the five last week, and I could not get out of my head this thought that government shutdown and almost nobody cares. I mean, cares cares. Like outside of the politicians, and the political class government workers will eventually get paid almost. Nobody cares. Because it doesn't affect your life garbage is picked up by local government here in Martin county in in Flint, frankly, lead Vits run by a private company. We could pay ourselves. I still get to the gym gym's open. I still work the internet still works. My phone. Still works Email still works. My life is fine. My kid goes to a private school. It's still open schools would continue to function. I mean, this is all unbelievable that this is happening right now in almost nobody notices all right, folks. Thanks again for two, and I really appreciate a police. Check out the show notes. 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Ep. 414 - Joe Biden: All Bark, No Bite

The Michael Knowles Show

47:27 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 414 - Joe Biden: All Bark, No Bite

"Last night the top nine Democratic presidential candidates and Hooghly on Castro met in Houston to debate all the top issues and to promise the American people a future with two cars in every garage few teeth in every mouth and a record player in every living room. Joe Biden fared the worst but no one came out looking good we will examine the highlights then the trump administration moves to outlaw vaping for all the wrong reasons and Hillary Clinton tries out performance Norman's art. I'm Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles show. The last night's democratic debate felt like performance art. We got about three hours of performance art. I was on the crowder livestream for its you can check that out to lots and lots of fun. Joe Biden probably couldn't have had a worse tonight then he did. We will get to all of that in a second but first I have got to thank. Our friends wins over wise foods. 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There is no risk taking the initiative to get yourself and your family more prepared today that is wise food storage dot Com Promo Code Knowles Canada W les to get any wise emergency or outdoor food product at an extra twenty five percent off and free shipping shipping Joe Biden's no good terrible very bad night. He looked old. He looked confused. He looked frail. He couldn't sink finish rather a single sentence and his teeth literally fell out of his mouth. He caught him back right before they totally flopped but his teeth actually fell out of his mouth on the bright side at least as eyeball didn't explode this time there are silver linings to every storm cloud so at least you got that has all didn't fill with blood like it did on the last. CNN and townhall but otherwise just about everything that could have gone wrong did go wrong including. I know it sounds like I'm joking but it's not a joke. He's teeth literally falling out of his mouth. Urine is at the time there was a groundswell in this country to get something done. President Obama asked you to leave the push for gun control. You have often pointed to your ability to reach across the aisle to get things done but four months after Sandy Hook a measure require expanded background checks died on the Senate floor floor if you couldn't get it done after Sandy Hook why should voters give you another chance God gun before I mean only one appears ever beat the NRA only one ever be nationally will and then you can see as he's trying to get that sentence at saying I got it done before he uses his tongue to to push his dentures back into place in the way that old men do in the way the people who were dentures do not just old men but other people who have dentures unmistakable title. This is not about the age. This is actually not the age issue. We've known that Joe Biden has fake teeth for a very long time at least close observers. No nobody on earth has teeth that big and bright and shiny and white and certainly not old men who have been in politics for a long time there is actually three a website that went up at least ten years ago called Joe Biden's teeth dot com and it's just an sort of owed to his teeth. You can go there. I think the website is still up. This is not what about the age what the issue is is that he looks and act his age. Ronald Reagan was no spring chicken. He was the oldest president in American history but he didn't seem like the oldest president he was sprightly. SPRY was full of energy. You know very famously when he went to meet beat the Soviet dictator. Mikhail Gorbachev Gorbachev was a younger man than Ronald Reagan and they were meeting and Gorbachev's Limo pulls up and Reagan is waiting in the White House. It's wintertime and there was a debate going on does Reagan where the coat or does he not wear the coat. He wears the coat. It's wintertime. That's appropriate. If you don't wear the coat you look younger and more energetic doors open. Reagan doesn't have a code on just his suit jacket and he goes hopping down those little steps and he embraces Gorbachev who's got the big code on the big Soviet for hat and he looked less energetic. He looked weaker. He looked older and Gorbachev was actually very upset about this and at the end of their meeting he said so next time. Are we gonNA wear coats or we're not going to wear coats because he knew how it looked. Reagan understood the optics of age. He was asked by a Walter Mondale L. who was running against him in the eighty four race he they they mondale made some comment about his age and Ronald Reagan answered in the debate. He said I will not make age an issue in this campaign. I will not exploit for political purposes. My opponent's youth and inexperience and Mondale later commented that that was the moment he knew he lost the election because Reagan totally flipped that age issue on its head trump. Does the same thing you know. Donald Trump is out there hanging out with Kanye West Donald Trump for all his age is the hippest guy in the country. Chris Rock said this Joan Rivers Joan rivers died. She was eighty years old. She was making jokes about beyond says she was so hip. There are much younger comedians who are out there making jokes about Bill Clinton. You know there who aren't hip at all even though they're thirty or forty years old trump is hip if you look at his twitter picture that twitter picture that you see that he hasn't changed in a long time that's from two thousand five that was from when he was doing the apprentice and he hasn't changed but you probably haven't noticed 'cause the guy doesn't really age. I think it's all that fast food and all that diet coke okay is sort of preserved him in this eternal form same thing with his hairy obviously colors his hair. Ronald Reagan colored his hair to they just seem young. Joe Biden doesn't seem young. He seems old biden also talks like someone who isn't with it so it's not even just the way he acts and the teeth falling out and and the this the cadence of his voice. It's also what he's saying so if trump is out hanging out with Connie trump is hosting Saturday night live Joe Biden. aiden is talking about how we need a record player a gramophone in every home. That's not an exaggeration. Here's Joe Biden's answer to a question about the legacy Z. of slavery. We make sure that every single child doesn't fat cap three four and five year old go to school school not daycare school. We bring social workers into homes parents to help them deal with how to raise their children. It's not that they'll want to help. They don't want they don't know quite what to do. Play the radio. Make sure the television. Excuse me make sure you have the record player on the phone. Make sure the kids here words a kid coming from a very poor school arrive at very poor background. We'll hear four million words fewer spoken by the time they get. There are two incredible aspects of this clip one. He corrects himself himself. He says make sure the televisions on at night which these days is actually a little bit outdated because people don't have regular TV they pretty much just watch everything digitally or on online online or streaming services but you could have gotten away with that. He corrected himself though he he makes sure that television is not. I mean the record player. Put the record player. No I didn't mean that I mean have have ancient Greek orders singing comedies in your I don't know how much older you can get them but he is regressing to. This older technology and that's not even the worst part of his answer. That's the first amazing aspect of the second amazing. Aspect of this answer is he's. He's basically insulting the core voter group that he needs to get through this primary okay and then also to get through the general election when he said in his answer is we need the government to come in to the homes of black parents because black parents how to raise their kids. That's what he's saying. He's saying the problem. Is You know we need. We need to take those kids out of the home at age three. Make sure they go into a state institution. We need social workers doing the home because the parents they don't know what they're doing. They don't know how to raise their own kids and it's not even just a general general comment about Americans. It's not a class comment. It's not a socioeconomic comment it specifically a race comment because he's answering a question about the legacy of Slavery Slavery Joe Biden. His main argument here is electability. That's really the only reason he's at the centre podium. It's the only reason he's leading in the polls part of the reasons electable as one. He seems a little more moderate than some of the other candidates but the other one is the other candidates are polling at like zero percent among black voters and Democrats need black voters in order to win. Joe Biden is going out there and specifically insulting black voters voters and then just what I was wondering I was watching the debate. I thought why is Julia on Castro in the stage. Why is this nothing empty suit joke of a candidate on this stage just just when I thought that he showed me why he was on that stage he made the most vicious attack against Joe Biden of the entire night. We'll get to that in a second but I I have got to thank. Our friends. Over at ring is safety is very very important especially. 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Ring Dot com slash knowles so I'm wondering what Houlihan Castro is still doing on that stage. He should've gotten off weeks and weeks ago. I was actually on Leland veteran show on Fox News when the news broke that Houlihan Castro was going to run for president and Leland turned to me said Michael. I WanNa get your reaction just off the top here to Hooghly on Castro making this big announcement I said I've got a big announcement and I had a ham and cheese omelette for breakfast. Both of those announcements are of Equal Relevance to the Twenty Twenty presidential contest who Leeann Castro is going nowhere but before he goes nowhere he can can just shift Joe Biden right in the side he comes out there and he just flatly accused Joe Biden of being completely senile areas Barack Obama's vision was not to leave ten million people uncovered wanted every single person in this country covered the plan would do that. Your plan would not have to buy in and do not have to buy you just said that you just sitting at two minutes ago. You just said two minutes ago that they would have to buy. Oh Yeah. You said they would have to buy qualifier forgetting what you said what you spent just two minutes go. I can't believe that you said two minutes ago that they had to buy in and now you're saying they don't have to forgetting anyway. Let me look grandmother who has has no money automatically and this was a pretty ugly exchange pretty brutal attack from Castro. I think the attack actually really made Castro look even worse than he already did. I mean it's so nasty. It's so disrespectful. Also it wasn't true Joe Biden. I'm happy to criticize Joe Biden but Joe Biden had head said if you don't have enough money you're automatically enrolled so even the charge. The Castro is making simply wasn't true. Nevertheless it looked really bad for both theus guys just fine for maybe Joe Biden is currently the front runner and what's wild is when Castro decides he's going to turn the attack from your lying to. You're an old man. WHO's senile said I said. Are you forgetting what you said two minutes ago. Biden is so visibly disgusted he turns away from Castro but then because Bernie is his right he just starts talking to Bernie and it looks like those too old muppets like you know the ones up in up in the balcony. Toronto rely on the big white hair and the mustaches and everything so it it really really truly was a bad look for everybody all around the Obviously it's not gonNA help. Castro Castro is going nowhere but JOE's troubles keep multiplying because Biden's actual answers were terrible too. It's not just the way other people made him. Look as dentures slide around around. It was his own answers. They were rambling. He was unable to finish sentence. He did sometimes contradict himself worst of all because he could get get past all of that that's built into Joe. Biden worst of all the answers were radical and he can't survive that he keeps going going back and forth he keeps vacillating is he. The moderate elder statesman or is he. The leftist radical keeps it every day. He goes back and forth one day. He is just going to preserve a more moderate way the legacy of Obama. He's he's been incentive for fifty years. The next day he wants to repeal the Hyde Amendment and he's sorry he ever did that and you sorry that he passed criminal justice reform that the nineteen ninety four crime bill he can't decide which is going to be the reason season he can't decide is not even that desperate and he is just trying to be cynical if that he doesn't have any actual beliefs he is the the definition of an empty suit he always has been he had to drop out of the race in nineteen eighty eight because he was stealing other people's words words he doesn't even have his own words to say he is nothing he will be anything and everything to everybody he just wants to smile and and get elected and be applauded he is the definition the prototype the archetype rather of a glad handing empty politician so that's why he can't decide how to handle these questions. He actually can't even decide how to handle his main legislative achievement. which was the nine hundred ninety four crime bill actually a very a good crime bill so the nineteen ninety four crime bill is a bill that led to what some people would call mass incarceration? I would call it getting tough on crime and jailing criminals. which is a good good thing and the crime rates dropped dramatically? They went way way down now. He was asked a question about criminal justice reform. He goes full radical. He says we should barely put anybody audion jail. Nobody should be jail for nonviolent crime as when we're in the White House released thirty six thousand people from the Federal Prison System. Nobody should be in jail. L. For non violent crime you or the architect of mass incarceration you personally you're the guy and it was a good the idea and it helped and it worked and you could run on that record now. You're saying nobody but violent. Criminals should be in jail period. This is probably the single stupidest answer Joe Biden could possibly give and what he thinks he's doing what he thinks he's doing is pandering to the black voters voters that he needs that are sort of his superpower against Bernie and Elizabeth Warren actually though it's the opposite it's not pandering to black voters. It's a betrayal of of black voters or it will be perceived that way at least because what he is saying would disproportionately help wealthy white people and it would disproportionately gently heard poorer black people how so because even beyond the racial element there is a class element here just even just look at the money you know so much of the debate last night was about the wealth gap between white and black so much of the discussion of criminal justice about this wealth gap how white people on average are wealthier wealthier and black people on average or poor and therefore there's no justice in America are two different. Americas consider the effect of Joe Biden's answer. If non violent criminals are not jail that means that investment bankers who commit financial crimes disproportionately very wealthy disproportionately white get off scot-free. You're a fraudster. You're running a Ponzi scheme. You're doing any that you get off scot-free three but a guy who robs a liquor store goes to prison the wealthy white guy isn't robbing the liquor store this this is just a terrible answer and by the way the I have family members who were victims of nonviolent crimes fraud. That sort of thing has devastating effects on families can lead to death. I mean it can really lead to just awful I mean it is fraud is the worst crime. Fraud is the worst crime. It is the worst sin it is what Dante puts in the very center of Hell with Satan in his three headed mouth or is three mouthed head. I guess chomping on the fraudsters. There's nothing worse than fraud and Joe Biden is saying if you commit for that's fine you go free you. You should go to jail for that just absurd I mean really disgusting answer and practically speaking unfortunate and in counterproductive for what Biden's trying to absurd and radical what about immigration crimes they don't go to tale what about what he's basically saying non-violent drug crimes don't go to jail. That's just one sort of non violent crime even the possession of illegal weapons. Let's say you've got a whole slew of illegal weapons in your house but it's not a violent crime right. You don't go to jail so that's the absurd and the radical answer. If voters want absurd radical they are going to vote for Bernie Sanders or Julio on Castro or somebody like that. They're not gonNA vote for Joe Biden. This is a losing battle for him and Biden doesn't change course he's GonNa lose. This bigger fight as well but Biden was. It's not the longest candidate of the night. There are wrongdoer candidates on that stage the wrong EST candidate of the night award actually goes goes to a candidate that some conservatives like or at least pretend to like which is Andrew Yang here is Andrea is opening statement in which he tries to revive his struggling struggling campaign by literally buying votes in America today everything revolves around the Almighty dollar our schools our hospitals our media even our government. It's why we don't trust our institutions anymore. We have to get our country working for us again. Instead of the other way around we have to see ourselves yourselves as the owners and shareholders of this democracy rather than inputs into a giant machine when you donate money to a presidential campaign what happens the politicians spends the money on TV ads and consultants and you hope it works out is time to trust ourselves more than our politicians. That's why I'm willing to do something unprecedented tonight. 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Mich Al Bollandbranch DOT com today you will get fifty dollars off your first set of sheets B. O. L. L. andbranch branch Dot Com Promo Code Michael Bollandbranch Dot Com Promo Code Michael so Andrew Yang's big idea is he's going going to buy votes and he says this is unprecedented. This is not only precedent. Did this is the oldest idea in politics. The very first politician walking out of the cave realized is that there were too easy ways to win political support threaten somebody with the club and by them with goods and services and money and that's what this guy is promising and as an old idea. It's a cynical idea and it's a wicked idea to pay people to go away and to get the entire middle class hooked on welfare. It's bad it's wicked. It's it's like the logical end of neoliberalism of this idea that all that matters is getting. GDP to go higher and higher and higher and really not pay attention to any other aspect of society but it is not a serious solution and it would have disastrous consequences it also the way you know. It's a really bad idea. is it relies on silly euphemisms. I mean that's what political correctness is just relying on deceptive euphemisms. He says you're getting a freedom. Dividend a freedom dividend freedom dividend which is the product of coercing people taking their money away and giving it to us that you get hooked hooked on the government not doesn't sound like a freedom dividend to me. It's a very bad idea. It's a way to get people hooked on government hooked on dependency and to pay them to shut up and stay home and shoot up opioids if they kill themselves too bad. That's what it it's not a real solution to the problems plaguing our country. It's is just a way to make. It look like it's going away so Yang was the wrong EST candidate. The most frivolous candidate of the night was going to Yuli on Castro but then he got that knock again at Biden so okay. He actually did something he had some use. The most frivolous award goes to drum roll. Please Cory Booker Cory Booker are we don't need to really get into the substance of his answers because as cory booker you know it's not going to be all that relevant pretty soon but he repeated one n- Canard that he just can't drop and takes away a lot of his credibility. He called trump a racist. They all called trump racist but then he got specific and where you get specific as where you can can be proven wrong. He said that trump is not able to condemn white. Supremacy here is it's not just an issue that we hear president can't contemn white supremacy. He can't condemn white supremacy right he can't do it. Trump could never condemn white supremacy or racism or bigotry except except a hold on wait a second. He's done it repeatedly for years to refresh your memory. Racism is evil and those who cause violence it's in its name are criminals and thugs including the KKK neo Nazis White supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans and I'm not talking about the Neo Nazis and the white nationalist because they should be condemned totally we we are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our creator. We are equal under the law and we are equal under our constitution those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America. How many times do I have to reject. I've reject David Duke rejected David Duke. I've rejected the the KKK the Klux Klan from the time five years old. I rejected them. I put it on twitter last week and I haven't been asked this question so so many times. I have rejected it so many times now. I'm not buying it. Mr President K Cory Booker says you can't condemn white supremacy so I do. I mean what you only condemned. MD they're like what like two hundred times or something so anyway. That's Cory Booker. This hurts him to say this kind of stuff. He's just seems shrill which is his vocal local problem and the shrillness goes to the content of what he's saying to. Nobody not even the Democratic voters believed that they don't believe that he can't condemn white separate trump can't condemn white supremacy he does they know he has now what booker could say is and trump. He's using whistle dog whistles. Zell's he's using rhetoric that is actually giving cover to white supremacists even though he's explicitly condemning them. I mean he could come up with some kind of twisted logic pick to still call trump a racist welling knowledge in reality but if booker is not going to acknowledge reality reality ain't going to acknowledge him. We will get to what I think is the most important part of the debate the difference between the serious candidate and the frivolous candidates. We'll get to that in the second and we'll get to vaping and Hillary Clinton performance chart but I I've got to sit on facebook and youtube go over to daily wire. Dot Com ten bucks a month hundred dollars for annual membership. You give me you get the layman show. Get at the Ben Shapiro. Show you get them at Wal. Show yet. Ask questions in the mail bag you get another kingdom which we just recorded episode two of yesterday and it sounds super cool and the story is just absolutely terrific. Most importantly you get the leftist tears tumbler. There are nine more Democratic presidential primary debates. That's I did not miss. Speak speak that is not eroneous nine more of these things you will drown if you don't get tumbler the tumbler right now protect yourself protect your family family's daily wire dot com. We'll be right back. The main thing that became clear in this debate is that we are now in a three way race. You know anything could happen but what it's looking like right now. Is We have a three way race that three where aces between Biden Bernie and Elizabeth Warren the difference between the serious and the unserious candidates became pretty clear in this debate and you could tell this most clearly by their answers on guns so other than maybe Bernie every single one of these candidates. I just want to take away all of your guns but listen to how they go about it. There's the desperate way the Beta way which is to say Hell Yeah Yeah. Hey man and to promise to steal the most popular guns in America. Hell yes. We're GONNA take your Ar Fifteen AK47 aw yeah we're going to take away the most popular gun in America and we're going to take away your second amendment rights the second second most important one. They put it as number two. It's in the constitution. Yeah we're GONNA do that. That's not a serious candidate. That's not a serious general election candidate and also reveals to you you something of I have. Long said which is Democrats tell you that they're not gonna take away your guns. Don't believe them. They will take away your guns. Here's Beta will work. I think like three weeks ago not very long ago. Baidoa Work on CNN townhall is asked. Are you going to take away our guns. He Says No. I strongly support the second amendment. I don't want to take yours or anyone. Else's guns hell yes. We're GONNA take your fifteen your AK forty seven three weeks. That's what a what a difference that little bit of time make so of course and I think all of them are disingenuous on guns. I think they all want to take away your guns. Maybe maybe Bernie slightly accepted but that's if you're going to take people's guns as is a really dumb way to go about it. You're clearly not thinking that you are going to be a top top tier presidential candidate the smarter way to grab guns is the Elizabeth Warren Way which is to put the issue into real context actually said in recent days that there are things you can get done with Republicans in the Senate. What can you get done on gun control so let's start by framing the problem the right way. We have a gun violence problem in this country country. The mass shootings are terrible but they got all the headlines children die every day on streets in neighborhoods on playgrounds people die from violence from suicide and domestic views. We have a gun violence problem in this country and we agree on many steps. We can take to fix it my view on this. It's not GonNa be one and done on this or going to do. It and we're going to have to do it again and we're going to have to come back ax some more until we taught the number of gun deaths in this country significantly. This is how you know. She's running to win. This is how you know that she is getting serious. Issues not just demagoguing this ridiculous issue about the AARP fifteen's the Ar fifteen is involved in very eerie very very few gun deaths or homicides each year very few more people are killed by hands and knives and Hammers and baseball Paul Bats then all rifles combined including the fifteen in the AK47. You're twenty two or twenty three times more likely to be killed with a handgun pistol then you are with any kind of rival including the Ar Fifteen. The fifteen is a total red herring. It's a it's a complete complete mislead on the issue. The real issue is suicides and Handgun Homicides and gang violence and Liz Warren gives. What's actually a pretty good answer on the gun question specially? If you're of the opinion that we can regulate guns we should regulate guns more about my opinion but and certainly is the opinion of the Democratic Party and even many independent minded Americans. This was a great answer on guns really sharp really well. Done you know she is in it. I mean she thinks she's going to get it and the polls seem to be reflecting that and I think overall. She helped herself last night. She herself a lot but she helped herself show. She's the stable one. She's not too old. She's not too crazy. I think she's going to play the slow and steady wins the race kind of strategy. The genie appears so far to be working honorable mention for the night before we get to vaping and before we get to Hillary Clinton performance art is the nearest to moderation. That's the honorable mention to Amy Klobuchar from Minnesota. She was asked about healthcare. She said maybe just maybe we shouldn't take away healthcare from one hundred forty nine million Americans and believe it or not. This was the closest thing to moderation all night. I think you know that I don't agree with some of these proposals up here. George sime talking expounds if I could if I could respond to some of the proposals from a friend but when it comes to our healthcare and what comes to our premiums I go with the doctor's creed read which is do no harm and while Bernie wrote the bill I read the bill and on page eight page eight of Bill. It says that we will no longer have private insurance as we know it and that means that one hundred and forty nine million Americans Americans will no longer be able to have their current insurance. That's in four years. I don't think that's a bold idea. I think it's a bad idea. Well said that's she's clearly learned the lessons of Obamacare pretty decent answer. It's why she's going nowhere enough of the lunatics enough of them there will be nine more of these debates which is just absolutely mind boggling. This will go on another nine times so let's not spend any more time on this one. We have to get to the much more important important issue which is vaping. Yes vaping trump. Administration is reportedly moving to ban flavored. E cigarettes were vapes. Listen you've seen the vapes electronic pack people suck in out of them and then they breathe out water water vapor of smoke. I'm not a fan of electronic cigarettes. I'm not a proponent of them at all. If you were going to ban them Dan them because because they are super lame don't ban them for these kind of silly reasons that they're coming up with ban them because real tobacco is much more delicious then fake weird. VP stuff don't ban them because of some dubious health claims there have been few deaths in there had been a few illnesses related to vaping and broadly but they're not related to e cigarettes. The deaths have not been specifically idea grits. They have been however tied to the. We'd pens the vapor that has thc in it and the marijuana substance which is brings up a very strange aspect of our culture. I've clearly been vaping a little too much myself. The strange aspect is the culture is increasingly anti-tobacco but it's also increasingly recently pro. We'd like very much so even though marijuana is in many ways much worse for you than tobacco you won't you you want to know all the potheads or tweet angrily now but it is it is a marijuana smoke deposits four times as much tore into your lungs as tobacco smoke does now you might say okay but people smoke a lot more cigarettes than they do joints. Maybe you haven't met my friends. In the music. Industry people can really smoke a lot of pot. I've smoked pot got on number of times in my life. It's not like I'm unfamiliar with substance. It's just really weird. I don't really care for pot. I much prefer alcohol and tobacco. It's very strange to me though that at the same time we are vilifying. Tobacco is the greatest evil on earth. We are making king. We'd into this great cure. All you know it's kind of the caricature of Joe Rogan is an we'd just solves. Every problem makes everything way better and I just don't believe that at at all I have a pothead friend who was at a concert at Madison Square Garden and I think it was like fish or something it was some one of these like pothead bands and he pulls out a joint and he's smoking and the the security guards come up and they're like you have to put that out right now. You could get arrested. You have put that out but he looked around him and people all around him. Were passing joints so we said we'll know they're all they're all smoking joints too and this was actually back before it was decriminalizes was probably number of years ago at this point and they said No. It's not it's not the pot. It's you're smoking a cigarette and apparently his marijuana was of such poor quality that they thought it was tobacco. It didn't have the classic smell. She said No. I'm really this is weed and they said No. You gotta put that cigarette out. It's one thing if it's pot. You're allowed to smoke that but not marijuana. So what is this vape ban really early about. It's not about health I mean. All of the headlines are about e cigarettes really what it should be a bad. Hey maybe let's not look at all the let's Watch watch out on these we'd pens one of the reports that it has to do specifically with the vitamin E acetate. That's in the in the weed pens or in cheaper versions of the weed pens or Chinese imports of the weed pens or some other chemicals involved there too would this vape pen is about as health. It's about the government enforcing a new secular morality morality actually regardless of your views on pot or tobacco or whatever I don't really care your views about any of those things in the government doesn't care your views about an either what they want to do. It is forced their secular morality on you so in that new secular morality tobacco and tobacco related products are simply evil and they must go even if their pens even if they're significantly better for you than smoking cigarettes. I don't think this is a trump administration thing. I think it's a government thing. I think this would what happened. If Hillary one in two thousand sixteen would've happened under Obama. This has been a long time coming. They've been trying to ban the vapes since they first hit the scene. You know I remember in bars in New York. When the vapes came out almost the Vape is just water vapor that comes out of your mouth almost immediately signs no vaping wine vaping. It's not even the arguments for secondhand smoke which are dubious arguments to begin with but even that you know you say okay. I don't want to breathe that smoke but the Vape is just water vapor. Why can't I breathe that out. There's nothing that you're reading in other than water vapor because it's not about anyone's health. It's about controlling what you do same thing on the airplanes. Why can't you vape on an airplane. It's just water vapor because the government needs to be able to tell you exactly what to do. It's it's like the environment you know. There are a lot of these environmental regulations that that in no way help the environment. They're not about the environment there about regulation. The health regulations aren't about health about regulation so we have ban on plastic one use shopping bags in Los Angeles. You can't use the plastic shopping bags instead. You have to use paper shopping bags. The paper shopping bags are much worse for the environment takes a lot more energy it it harms the natural environment much more to make those shopping bags and you have to reuse the shop the paper shopping bags three times in order to bring down the environmental impact to the level of the plastic single you shopping bag which people already use multiple times anyway because they use them as trash bags ever since they ban those the purchase of the much heavier much more environmentally damaging thick plastic bags has shot through the roof but it's not about the environment. How about those cotton bags that they make you buy at the store for if you buy an organic cotton shopping bag you would need to use that thing twenty thousand times before you bring environmental impact down to the level of a single use plastic back. They don't care when they find that when the studies come out they don't say okay. We're GONNA pull back environmental regulation. It's not about the environment. It's about regulating you you controlling your life and that is why. I don't like vape pens. I don't like pot. I fight these kinds of restrictions as hard as I can because because they're not it'd be one thing if you wanNA keep marijuana criminalized. I think that's probably a good idea mostly because it will irritate the potheads and I get a kick out of that but right when it comes to something like vaping new technology if you're just trying to regulate it just to regulate it. I resist that that kind of rule is hard as I can. Government should not be able to tell me what to do as a simple arbitrary random exercise in their own massive power speaking of Power Hungry Government Officials Hillary Clinton the sort of desiccated cadavre Hillary Clinton wandering wandering around the woods of Chappaqua has made it all the way to Italy has made it to the Venetian teatro Italia to participate in performance art art. She's now in an exhibit where she is sitting a perfect replica of the resolute desk in the Oval Office reading through her emails or you know pages that are are made to look like her email sixty thousand of them. She sat there for hours. Truly her not not an impersonator reading an exhibit titled. Hillary the Hillary Clinton Antony emails created by the artist Kenneth Goldsmith this art somehow it's performance art. The reason I find this interesting one. It's pathetic pathetic that this this woman who wanted to be president is so ruined by this that she now needs to sit and play pretend at a replica of the resolute desk because I don't know I guess they take our straitjacket off a few you hours a day so she can participate in this performance art but also because she's not the first very prominent government official to dabble in art after she leaves office George W Bush after he left the presidency became an artist. I believe at the urging of the historian John Gaddis who actually professor of mine he handed Bush an essay about how Winston Churchill became a painter after he left office and so Bush read this and he became a painter and he became. I'm actually pretty good painter. Even the left New York magazine said he did a good job and he would paint portrait's of wounded warriors and the soldiers and he he would sell these as fundraisers. Here's who give them to people. He published a book of his art. It's really about other people and it's about whether or not you like his order. Not It's about bringing together different artistic styles into a beautiful composition to do honour to great warriors. That's real art for the left however they don't have any sense of real art because they don't have any sense of beauty so it's all deconstruction. It's all dod is all absurd. Ism It's all ugly. It's all bizarre. It's all surreal. It's all this kind of performance art. You know the the right loves good art and the left loves terrible art like like this sort of performance order slam poetry which the literary critic Harold Bloom Rightly called the death of art and this really highlights it and these two prominent politicians you've got one going toward the beautiful and the one going toward the grotesque in the absurd in the obscene and that's Hillary Clinton no better way to describe her and I'm not at all surprised that the artistic a preferences of she and her comrades reflect their own bizarre views of the world. That's our show we got more to get to. We'll do it on Monday in the meantime. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show have have a good weekend. See so if you enjoyed this episode and frankly even if you didn't it don't forget to subscribe and if you want to help spread the word. Please give us a five star review and tell your friends to subscribe. 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"Tonight on all in we are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility as f. b. I. agents swarm jeffrey epstein's private david islet. We will get to the bottom of what happened tonight. What we know about what happened this weekend and where the investigations go from here then president trump's administration is reinforcing the ideals of self sufficiency and personal responsibility democratic candidate houlihan castro on the new white house plan to penalize legal immigrants for needing benefits plus. Can you add what amy and what diane have can. We add event twenty twenty democrat amy klobuchar on whether we should believe the president on passing new gun safety laws and what we're learning about what could be the worst russian nuclear or disaster since chernobyl. All lynn starts now good evening from new york. I'm ali vel she in for chris hayes. It's been more than two days since jeffrey epstein. The financier accused of sex trafficking was found dead by apparent suicide in his manhattan jail. Cell investigators are still trying to piece together how this could have happened. Jeffrey epstein was accused of trafficking girls as young as fourteen for sex and faced forty five years in prison. If convicted part of the reason why the death of jeffrey epstein is so surprising is that it was just last month when he was found injured in his cell semi-conscious with marks on his neck he was on suicide and watch it that time it was just three weeks ago but despite that sources tell n._b._c. news that epstein was not on suicide watch at the time of his death. The guidelines were epsteins. Jeans jail unit called for corrections officers to check on inmates every thirty minutes but that did not happen. According to an administration official quote a number of hours lapsed between checks on epstein sell the official also said that epstein did not have a cellmate which violated bureau of prisons protocols shortly after epstein was pronounced dead f._b._i. Launched an investigation into the circumstances surrounding his death. The other weird thing about all of this is the timing the news of jeopardy f dean jeffrey epstein's death early saturday morning came on the heels of a huge document dump from just the day before filled with explosive allegations. We've got nearly two thousand didn't pages of court documents from a woman who said jeffrey epstein kept her as a sex slave in the unsealed documents. It landed on friday. She alleges that epstein and also directed her to have sex with several high powered. Men including former new mexico governor bill richardson britain's prince andrew former senator george mitchell and attorney alan dershowitz. I should tell you all of the men have denied the allegations. Epstein was also known to have relationships with other powerful people including former president bill clinton clinton former u._k. Prime minister tony blair and president donald trump video shot by n._b._c. in one thousand nine hundred ninety two shows jeffrey epstein attending a party thrown by trump at mar-a-lago the two can be seen laughing and talking here. Epstein's death raises several pressing questions including how could this happen but also what what happens to the investigations into epstein and his associates now joining me. Jonathan jonathan dean w n._b._c. chief investigative reporter and n._b._c. a._b._c. News contributing correspondent also harry siegel senior editor at the daily beast welcome to both of you. Thank you for being here jonathan. What's the latest that we have malade is right now. Is that the f. b. I. is searching searching his virgin islands state looking for any additional evidence regarding the sex trafficking ring he was running and whether any evidence is there that could the link to any possible co-conspirators who survived him and the in the meantime the attorney general today expressing his anger has discussed at how this could happen one of the most high profile important inmates in current time found hanging dead in a jail cell and one of the most secure secure facilities certainly here in the northeast and the question is how could this happen. How could they not been watching them more closely. <hes> some correction correction officer union officials point out that the defense and epstein had been imploring him to be taken off suicide watch he was stuck in a <unk> sell on his own being watched literally around the clock for a few days after that first apparent suicide attempt some thought it was a ruse but he wanted out of that there was a wedding. There is no betting it was just a mattress. He was in a smock. He was isolated. They wanted to even world put him in general population so the defense was asking for it apparently after some psychological evaluations. They agreed to move them back into a cell. He was put in a cell. We're told with a roommate for a time time for that. Roommate was recently released so jeffrey epstein was on his own for about twenty four hours plus or minus and he apparently was not watched for several hours. We're trying to get a better answer on that timeframe. I've heard anywhere from three hours to six hours where he went unchecked during that overnight until he was discovered at six thirty thirty in the morning apparently hanging bedsheet trying to get cardi whether it was from the bed or from a window right but that is a information about whether he met with his attorneys on friday friday after or at the same time as big document dump with all these revelations. I believe my colleague tom. Winter has confirmed that yes there was a meeting through about six thirty p._m. On friday <hes> that he was having a meeting with his <hes> attorney there was no obvious or parents sign of major distress or difficulty <hes> and you'll remember epstein hated hated being in that prison and he wanted were told to go down into the legal briefing room where he can meet with his lawyers. Every day was paying his lawyers to come visit them every day for hours hours and hours and hours at a time just so he didn't have to be up there in his cell in that common area the the right to go down meet with his lawyers and who's paying billable hours to meet with them day in day out harry wu what they're just so many questions people who don't understand prisons have about this. How is it that a prisoner goes hours without being seen how visit the policy is that he's so as we check every thirty thirty minutes that that's not the case. How is it that he was off of suicide. Watch after an apparent suicide attempt a few weeks ago and maybe some of that understanding comes from somebody who understands what that prison looks like in. That's you so first thing. I think it's important understand. Is that even in prison. When he talks talks. It buys you hours out of your cell. It helped epstein get off suicide watch and i know that he'd been asking few other prisoners for their inmate numbers bruce it would have been helpful in different ways presumably in order to transfer money into their accounts. The conditions at m._c._c. are not good <hes> <hes> frankly. They're not good for the officers who work there either. It's a difficult place to work in manhattan. So you have a you have these overtime shifts. The two officers officers there that night when it was on the fifth consecutive night overtime. I would bet that that officer had been sleeping in his car outside the facility. There's not time to get home and get back before your next double double shift right the other one had been ordered to come in and fill that shift. This is a huge problem throughout the <hes> the federal system where there's this thing augmentation where they'll take you if you're a janitor were clerical worker works there and you've had a couple of weeks of training right when you get hired and they say okay. You're corrections officer for the day the so in this very broad level. We're learning more people than we are paying than we're able to pay to have imprisoned and the decline in conditions such that it's much less stunning to me than it will otherwise be. The policy wouldn't be overnight. The two officers might just might asleep and not make the rounds and expect nothing to happen and that something i think this could happen just out of profound incompetence and offensive for attorney general. We're discovering big because mccollum's you've written about this before. Jonathan knows about this people who cover prisons in this country understand this. It's no secret with the system and it's no secret with m._c._c. Jonathan the investigation. They've been an autopsy of jeffrey epstein. It's said to be that they need more time to come to a conclusion but they're not working with any theory other than they. I believe he took his own. Life can every agency every official. We've spoken to <hes>. It appears to be a suicide. That is what they're working off of but the medical examiner is not going to make that determination given the nature of this case till the f._b._i. And <hes> internal investigators can t complete their work to determine. No one handed him something so that he could kill himself. No was paid to go the other way so you could kill himself to make sure there was nothing untoward but as of now there's absolutely nothing to suggest just any sort of criminal conspiracy <hes> or crime or assault suicide is the only thing on the table and the question is what else went on that was improper. There may have been something that facilitated that for maybe not maybe it's just a badly staff prison but there may have been they're going to look into that. There was any facilitation. Did someone get him something could've used but as of now we've heard of nothing that relates to that and maybe in time it shifts to the internal investigation into mismanagement and just some bad decisions that perhaps took place at the m._c._c. because no one certainly and made like this should not die this way in federal facade jonathan harry. Thanks both you for your continued. Reporting on this as we get new information we will bring it to our viewers joining me now for more on what happens to the epstein investigation following his death. I'm joined by nick ackerman former assistant u._s. Attorney for the southern district of new york knick this there are a whole lot of people who finally thought they were going to get justice because they were going to be able to see jeffrey in court. Now that's not going to happen. I think it is going to happen. I think what we're going to find is that the indictment against epstein actually charged him and with conspiracy which means that was more than one people we also know that when the deal was cut in florida that he made with the feds and the state that he got some agreement from the state to basically not go after other co conspirators who are listed by name which folks have never really understood what that's about well well. We've never seen that but it's florida that was giving that immunity. That doesn't bind the federal government on this. The fact of the matter is the victims here will receive justice the people who were named as co-conspirators. I am almost certain will ultimately be indicted. <hes> there are a whole number of them. We don't know exactly whom we know couple because the names have been mentioned in the press but i would think that the federal government now is under immense pressure to determine whether or not those people can be indited because the paramount concern here is the victims right to bring justice to these victims who have suffered all these years initially when this matter came up they were not consulted when the deal was made in florida and now this jeffrey epstein slips away by killing himself so i think that the government it feels that i'm sure that they have got to bring closure to this by making certain that everybody anybody who is involved in this whole consorted period is brought to justice so typically when you're trying to get to the head of something you turn people who are lower and you may be pay pay less attention to them or they. They suffer lesser consequences because you're trying to get to the person at the top of this thing. If if jeffrey scene is the person at the top of something that is a conspiracy and and he's gone does that mean that the the power of the law of the strength of it now focuses on other people who are in there because there are a lot of investigations into <hes> into who facilitated this. Do those people get a brighter light on that. Oh i think so i mean i think they're going to get extremely bright light on them. I mean now that we know with it. I mean there's probably a list in this florida deal. I mean i'm sure that the federal government has that list. They know who was exempted out of that deal. The jeffrey epstein eighteen had back in florida. I mean that's that's the roadmap. Those are the people that the federal government is going to be looking at and the fact that they got immunity in florida does does not bind the federal government. It's two separate governments and even with the u._s. Attorney's office agreed to in florida doesn't necessarily bind other u._s. attorney's attorney's office. Even though it's under the department of justice i mean i have not seen the papers and i don't think anybody has seen the papers that relate to this agreement but i think if it's like any other standard agreement that i used as a prosecutor or as a defense lawyer it's going to be binding only as to the southern district of florida in miami. It does not bind the southern district of new york or other federal district. Let me ask you about the civil side of things there have been some civil actions taken against jeffrey epstein in their there are plans for others. The bar is generally lower for civil actions and this is a guy who had a lot of money with him being dead. Does that fundamentally make it harder or easier to make a claim on his estate at four civil a thing for these claims that these women have i guess in some ways it might make it a little bit harder harder in a little bit easier. I mean there's two sides to because if you have a civil case and you brought jeffrey epstein in and you started asking him questions just as he did in the other civil oh case he would assert his fifth amendment privilege against self incrimination now in the criminal context. You cannot count that against somebody. You cannot take an adverse inference in a criminal case because someone refuses to testify in a civil case. The rules are different so i guess one question is when and jeffrey epstein took the fifth amendment in this other civil case that was ultimately settled. Will they be able to use that testimony. Probably they can right they probably can and so they've got the adverse inference based on his fifth amendment <hes>. They've got all of this evidence that i'm sure they're going to you know they've got all all of these women that were at one point or another victims of this whole situation. There's lots of physical evidence. There's evidence has been uncovered in his safe here in manhattan. I'm sure as we speak right now on this island in the caribbean there uncovering more evidence so i think at the end of the day the victims here are only gonna receive justice on the criminal side but they're also going to receive justice on the civil side. It's a remarkable story and it good to see you as always thank you for joining me. Here is a former assistant special watergate state prosecutor and former assistant u._s. Attorney in criminal defense attorney in the southern district of new york coming up next the trump administration announces a new policy targeting legal immigrants presidential no candidate won houlihan castro joins me he calling the move immoral in constitutional. He's gonna join me now to explain why he says that. After this they spent a hundred and fifty four days since the white house held a press briefing the last time former press secretary sarah huckabee sanders sanders made an appearance before reporters in the white house briefing room and actually took questions was on march eleventh just over five months ago but the white house does clean up the briefing perfect room for special occasions like the time white house senior adviser stephen miller seen here took to the podium to defend trump legislation aimed at slashing legal immigration in half half well today was one of those days the white off white house dusted off the briefing room to announce new policy that would make it harder for legal immigrants who rely on government burma benefit programs to obtain permanent legal status. The new rule is set to take effect in two months now. Today reporters in the briefing room pushed back on the policy pointing to this country's long history of welcoming people of all backgrounds. Is that sentiment. Give us your tired. Your four still offered in the united states. Should those words down to five thousand dollars. I'm certainly <hes> not prepared to take anything down off the statue of liberty here with me now democrat and presidential candidate julio castro of texas sir good to see you secretary castro. I guess maybe you're still allowed to come to the country. You're tired but the poor and the huddled masses don't seem to be as involved. Does this look like favoring the wealthy over the poor in immigration policy but what it looks like is that this <music> administration is not just against undocumented immigrants also against legal immigrants and on top of that it. It seems to only want immigrants. That look a certain way. I believe what they're looking for. Are it seems like well to do immigrants prince from some european countries and the reporters today that push back and you played a little bit of that audio. I think we're very apt to do so given even the history of this country before nineteen twenty four people could come to this country. We didn't have the same system of immigration laws that we have now and a lot of those folks wchs as people out there in the united states at our country will tell you that their grandparents or great grandparents came here with nothing and yet and i think this is a very important jordan point ali a lot of those folks help build the great nation that we have today. They started off with nothing but they were able to become successful successful small business owners or good employees and pass on wealth to their children and their grandchildren. That's how we built up this country so what this administration is doing without literally taking the words off of that plaque is effectively. That's what they're doing. You know we when we think about these stories that you're talking talking about that that go back from the twenties and thirties back into the eighteen hundreds we talk about grit and ambition and the journey that people took in the harrowing journey that could've killed them on the boat to america or whoever they came here and we seem to value that we seem to value that is contributing to the fabric of america leading to the american dream to come here with ambition to prosper what's changed. Why is it different. If they're walking across the desert or or coming in from south america for the same purposes they have ambition and they would like to make their fortune in prosper in america. I don't think anything is different. I think you know when you look at this generation of immigrants they are every bit is entrepreneurial. They're every bit as hard working. They believe in the country tree every bit as much as anybody else and so. I think the point that needs to be asked is why is donald trump so interested in cutting off this generation of immigrants and it goes back to what he's displayed from the beginning of his political career from birtherism to the way he started his campaign to are those comments about the mexican american judge to his comments about ilhan omar and her colleagues. He wants a whiter wealthier nation. That's what he's interested you. You were the secretary of housing and urban development so you you experience you dealt with some of the people who are recipients of the thing the very thing that this administration is now saying will will prevent you if you are an immigrant from getting permanent residency getting a green card. What's the association this is this administration is making an association and that if you are on government benefits in any fashion you're not going to be a contributing member of society. I saw the exact opposite when i was secretary of housing housing. I saw a lot of people who were in public housing or receiving housing choice voucher. They were on some sort of assistance. They were hard working. <hes> <hes> and you know or some of them were people who were down on their luck but they had been hardworking. They wanted to be hard working again. They were trying to get on a productive path in life so this idea that just because you partake in some government benefits the idea that you're somehow lazy or you have no value all you to the community or to the country. I mean that could be further from the truth. It couldn't be further from the truth and there's an ulterior motive that this president has which is he wants to create a country in his own image. He wants to chill the ability of both undocumented undocumented immigrants and in this case legal immigrants to actually participate in american life and i think that he hopes that more of them are never going to apply or be able to apply to become permanent residents and therefore get on a pathway to citizenship you can connect the dots between this to that citizenship question on the census is that the administration so badly wants to all of the actions that he's taking at the border that are cruel separating families. It's one one consistent show of a president who is a racist and basically wants a whiter wealthier nation secretary. Let's talk about section thirty thirteen twenty five of the immigration russian nationality act which you have called for repealing. This is the basis on which when these deportations started under this administration that that was the the crime in many cases so the average american doesn't really think when they think about immigrants committing crimes. They're not entirely sure that it's the first crime the one we're thirteen thousand five and that is crossing unlawfully. You think that should be eliminated. You think it should not be a crime to cross into this country unlawfully. I i guess it wouldn't be repealed it. That's right before this. This law was passed in the nineteen twenties but from the nineteen twenties until till about two thousand four it was actually rarely enforced as a crime it was enforced. It was still illegal. There were still consequences to crossing the border but those consequences were civil consequences. Not a criminal misdemeanor which thirteen twenty five makes it a crisp criminal misdemeanor. Most people bull listening. I think it's news to them that for instance the deportation process and the asylum process all of that is civil that is not a criminal civil civil however this administration that trump administration began weaponising misdemeanor part of this thirteen twenty five to incarcerate migrant parents and and separate them from their little children so i have said look we can address the consequences for crossing the border and maintain border security without thirteen twenty five that has allowed this administration to cruelly treat migrants. I want to make sure that no future administration has that tool in and the toolbox secretary good to talk to you. Thank you for joining us twenty twenty presidential candidate hooligan castro coming up new details about how the dayton shooter got his weapons presidential central candidate. Amy klobuchar joins me to discuss whether the president is really going to take action on gun safety. That's next eight days after the mass murder in dayton. A friend of the shooter has admitted to authorities that he bought the armor and ammunition ammunition used in the mass murder order twenty four year old ethan colleague told fbi agents that he bought the body armor equipment for the gun and a one hundred round double drum magazine the shooter later used during the massacre prosecutors have charged with lying on federal firearms forms but they don't consider him a conspirator and while several twenty twenty democratic candidates spent their weekend in iowa at the gun incense forum the new york post reports the president told a room full of republican donors on friday that quote we need meaningful background checks it is time we've heard but this kind of rhetoric from the president before without a whole lot of action to back it up so is this time any different joining me now to answer that question and more twenty twenty candidate senator amy klobuchar char- democrat from minnesota who just recently last week released her own gun safety proposals senator. We talked about that a little bit and i want to talk a little bit more about it today but do you you believe that there's real movement coming from the president of the united states on unreal meaningful gun control at his said this before seated directly across cross jimmy in the white house where i wrote down that nine times. He said that he wanted to see the background. Checks done also my bill to close closer boyfriend loophole which more and more information is coming out <hes> about <hes> this shooter this killer <hes> as well as others. It's it turns out out that about half of these mass shooters according to new york times report this week <hes> have shot someone woman who's close to them in their immediate family a or a girlfriend or something like that as part of the mass shooting and so this is part of the loosen too and this president said yeah put that in there put amy's provision in there and then and what happens he meets with the n._r._a. That opposes the closing the boyfriend loophole as well as the background checks and then he folds that is what happened then and my guess is instead instead of pushing mitch mcconnell which he coulda done with one phone call to bring everyone back to vote on this he decides to wait until the fall hoping that public companion will somehow lessen so things like the boyfriend loophole which fit into the larger rubric of background checks and even into the red flag law red flag laws which which many states have taken up. I think almost twenty states have taken this up. This is the low hanging fruit of gun sense. The slightly more complicated stuff is things like an assault weapons ban which you co sponsored the two thousand nine hundred legislation to reinstate. There were a lot of cosponsors none of whom were republicans. What what kind of political support is there for these various stages of things that a lot of american things americans think are just sensible particularly in your state where people have guns there. There are a lot of guns and people believe that they should have them. Yeah we have a proud hunting tradition in minnesota and by the way where i just was for an acquired twenty counting tour nyla <hes> but the point is <hes> majority of hunters actually wanna see safety rules in place <hes> and there's a number of hunters at support background checks <hes> so i think there is growing support and you're right the red flag law is simply a first step but i think we need to get that background check bill and closing the the boyfriend loophole which by the way means that right now if you kill if you commit a serious crime domestic abuse against your wife we you can't get a gun right but if you do it against your girlfriend you can <hes> which is outrageous so i think there is growing support among contractors and people in rural areas to get this done and hopefully that's going to change the politics is i would also note that the republican congressman <hes> from the dayton which i'm sure he had to do you came out in favor of banning military style weapons <hes> as well as magazine limits and to me the fact that in thirty seconds one one man was able to gun down and kill nine people and injured many more even though the police couldn't have gotten there faster within one minute think of that and i think that just tells it all to americans and why you're going to see a shift <hes> and we already voted after parkland to get background checks. I think they're going to vote for more if the republicans won't don't buy and keep giving it to the n._r._a. Till you are a united states. Senator and there are a lot of people who think that even if donald trump decides that he does want to move on this thing <hes> you've got another. You've got another impediment. That's mitch mcconnell who he's not watching much on this thing last week. For about twenty seconds. Everybody thought he was talking about being open open to things basic at background checks and i think within an hour of him saying that his press people put out a statement saying nah not really completely and all of these bills bills are at his doorstep <hes> the waiting periods of background checks and the entire violence against women act which includes provisions that i wrote that has now passed passed the house on a closing this boyfriend loophole <hes> so i think he's really gonna have to count for this. There's gonna he's running his own race of course against a fighter pilot our democratic candidate amy mcgrath <hes> and then at the same time you're going to have people from all over the country wanting to see a change <hes> so change doesn't doesn't always happen in one moment but i have never seen a moment where it does not cry out for gun safety rose more than this one in the last election in the in the two thousand eighteen election. There were some real progress with gun safety candidates. The momentum of parkland did actually seem to help to what degree free will that influence some of your republican colleagues more than the n._r._a. Influences them right now in fact i think the candidates and their organizations ended up spending more money on on the elections in the n._r._a. Did yeah i hope this does and in the end this wasn't about money. It was about lives. It was about the fact that those parkland in kids stood up and we're so brave and then kids across the country saw it and they started talking to their dads grandpas if they had hunting and their family and said wait a minute this is i always say this won't hurt my uncle dick and then dear stan <hes> we can still hunt and have these rules in place and so i think you saw that sea change and then they in march and then most importantly they voted in record levels in that midterm election and i think to me this looks a bit like the gay marriage change <hes> where it started in a few states and of course some states have already voted <hes> for more on safety rules but we don't have any federal accountability when it comes to the gun show loophole so so they can buy a gun somewhere and then transported across state lines and so i think that what it feels like to me. This was a true grassroots movement. <hes> that of course has been going on forever from when i was in law enforcement to sandy hook <hes> to what happened las vegas on but those parkland kids captivated activated <hes> our nation's attention and now these two horrible mass shootings and el paso and in dayton <hes> have really to me been the last straw and that's where they definitely saw. This was an assault weapon. Don't tell me you can't tell what this was. This was a military style assault weapon <hes> with this high capacity magazine kazini that shouldn't be sold out in our stores and i think that's the sea change. You're seeing what's going to be waiting for. Mitch mcconnell that debate when he gets back. It was a hundred round drum on that thing in this state new york. You can't have more than ten rounds in a gun senator good to see you. Thank you for joining me again senator. Thanks for covering this very important still ahead what we're learning tonight about mysterious nuclear explosion in russia and what it has to do with the weapon system. That vladimir putin was called invincible. That story is up next in the last week. We've seen news of two major explosion incidents in russia one of which we have video of one of which we don't this video was an arms depot on a russian military base in siberia. Look at this thing a series of huge explosions lotions rock the base last week sending shrapnel flying miles according to the russian defense ministry a fire set off the explosions at the depot held gunpowder charges or just for artillery shells. One person was killed. Several others were wounded in those blasts. Thousands of people were evacuated from the area. Now some residents apparently managed to snap photos does the huge plumes of black smoke smoke before they left but that wasn't even the worst of it in russia last week about twenty five hundred miles away off the coast most of the white sea. There was another mysterious explosion that occurred on thursday now. We don't have visuals of that. That explosion was even more dangerous because that blast expo last reportedly released a bunch of radiation into the air officials have been tight-lipped about the blast. The new york times says it may be one of the worst nuclear accidents in the region since noble at least seven people were killed in russian news media reported quote radiation asian briefly rose to two hundred times normal background levels u._s. Officials suspect the blast involved prototype of a nuclear powered cruise missiles so that russia apparently tested last week. You can see it here in this video which was played by russian president vladimir putin at his state of the union last year. I'm joined now by an expert. It has been following these developments closely. Jeffrey lewis's director of the east asia nonproliferation project at the middlebury institute of international studies. He's the founder of arms control wong long dot com geoffrey good to see you. What do you make of this. The second explosion and the idea that radiation levels were elevated in russia well. I think the evidence right now is pretty overwhelming that this was something nuclear in character probably nuclear powered cruise missile. That vladimir putin showed showed off. Is you said during his state of the union address. It's not clear how much radiation was released at this point but this is a very serious accident and we have a large number of people dead including five nuclear scientists. Let's talk about god. How do people like me who don't really understand that much about nuclear stuff understand the difference between a nuclear plant like chernobyl and a nuclear powered cruise missile a nuclear powered cruise missile actually has a little nuclear earlier reactor in it <hes> powering the jet engine so you can think of it as a tiny flying chernobyl. The good news is the reactor theory is going to be very small the bad news is that as we've seen it doesn't look like the technology is all that reliable and it's especially odd if you imagine if russia goes ahead and deploy is one of these things you know. Are they going to have one hundred five hundred thousand of these things i mean it's a it's a strange technology to choose and until now we probably had some way of limiting how many russia had or we had but now it seems that everybody's departing from the nuclear agreement that limited the number of arms arms the united states and russia house. I think that's the real story here. You know the the weapon itself is kind of crazy idea but it's really one of a number of crazy ideas that the russians really are investing heavily in largely u._s. Missile defenses and we're seeing a complete collapse of the arms control framework the nineteen eighty-seven near immediate rain nuclear forces treaty has gone and it's pretty clear now i think the united states and russia are not going to extend the very last arms control treaty still outstanding the new start agreement so we're entering into this world where they're not going to be any constraints on these kinds of systems and it's starting to look a little like an arms race wash. It's widely acknowledged was in breach of its deals. Anyway and china wasn't subject to these restrictions and was moving ahead. So what does success look like in terms news of deals of the sort if russia wasn't abiding by it and there were countries not limited to buy what should the u._s. be doing at this point. The first thing to do is to recognize. We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good yes. The russians were violating the treaty but they are not violating violating the new start treaty so we do have a treaty in place that governs <hes> what are called strategic arms basically the missiles and bombers that can go from one country do the other right there really long range stuff that training still exists and the russians are complying with it but the trump administration has no interest in extending it so the first first thing to do is stop damaging the system. We could go back to the negotiating table. We could extend that agreement and then we can start working on some of the problems right. We could talk about russian in compliance the i n f we can talk about ways to bring china in but i think what we're seeing right. Now is the people like john. Bolton are basically using these problems really to walk away from this entire reproach agenda go back to an arms race jeffrey. Thank you for joining me tonight. Appreciate it. Pleasure jeffrey lewis all right coming up a fascinating new data untangling the president's twelve two thousand lives since taking off. We'll go through it after this. It's hard to keep with elisa and exaggerations told by president donald trump. It's just difficult to keep track of something. That's coming at you constantly but the washington post is keeping up with it and they've got a number twelve thousand and nineteen president trump has made twelve thousand and nine thousand nine hundred false or misleading claims over nine hundred twenty eight days in office think about that twelve thousand nine hundred and the washington post fact check checker database has been meticulously tracking the president's public statements. You can see it charted here on on a day-to-day basis is averages out to about thirteen false or misleading statements per day according to the washington post there is a spike as you can see around the midterm elections last year and the presidents average has recently climbed to about twenty false or misleading statements per day day after day month after month so august fifth the most recent day the post has analyzed he had crossed the twelve thousand threshold. What does that do to this country to society and to truth with itself. We'll discuss straight ahead out of the twelve thousand false or misleading claims made by the president of the united states. One of his favorites is that this is the greatest economy in u._s. History it began saying that about a year ago. He's made some version of that claim one hundred eighty six times according to the washington post. Let's put the post notes by just about any important measure. The economy today is not doing as well as it did. Under president dwight d eisenhower lyndon b johnson bill clinton and ulysses. He's s grant. President trump has also claimed he passed the biggest tax cut in u._s. History also not true for more on the culture of lies and misstatements created by this presidency. I'm joined by again e. l. moody mills host of sirius. X._m.'s x._m.'s woke af and rick wilson a republican strategist and a columnist at the daily beast. Welcome to both of you. Thank you for being being with us <hes> danielle. What do you make of it. I mean at some point whether it's nine thousand or twelve thousand or twenty thousand which i'm sure it'll get to what what do you make of it because i feel like after ten you put yourself into the bucket of not being able to be trusted. I mean the reality is that after the president was inaugurated psychology today put out an article called the eleven signs warning signs of gas lighting. This president has gas lighting is a strategy. He does it on purpose. It's to keep us off kilter. It's to make us believe that there's nothing there's nothing truthful so he tells you one lie after the other and you start to become numb to it that's what's happening and so we don't question all of the things that he says he starts his political career with birtherism it turns into an entire movement now he re tweets conspiracies about the clintons and epstein stain and it doesn't even make front page news the whole idea is that he builds this uneasiness so that we trust nothing and no one and then he projects he projects. I lies onto other people. He tells us that other people are crazy. Isn't it crazy to tell thirteen to twenty lies day. That should just make you automatically unfit to be president of the united states and yet here. We are the fact that the washington post has. This tracker is amazing but we're numb to it public the public it doesn't even care we have more stories about joe biden's gifts that he's having than we do about the fact that the president of the united states lives to the american public doc every day multiple times a day rick what daniels talking about was donald trump sharing and unfounded fringed theory about <hes> jeffrey epstein's death in prison related to the clintons trump official lin patent original administrator of the department of housing and urban development velopment tweeted out or posted on instagram that jeffrey epstein was hillary. What do you think of this theory though that it's just meant to keep us off balance because you don't actually know what the truth is anymore and we certainly don't report on all twelve to twenty lines per day. Donald trump relies on on us us to talk about the spectacle and not about the substance and the spectacle part of it is that he is a liar lies at all times in every way including putting the articles and the in every sense their lives when he says them and so you end up with with a division on the on the republican side part part of the folks on that side sorta hold their breath ago part of them like it. They think this is part of this new transgressive game that he's playing. Oh we're going to we're going to own the lives by <unk> by donald trump producing a river of b._s. Every day and this this idea that you're going to promote conspiracy theories as trump has done over the weekend since i've seen it feeds into this this desire by the right to redefine what the truth is. What the facts are. I mean obviously the only lead logical explanation was hillary doing a high altitude parachute jump onto the roof repelling down the elevator shaft and killing obscene herself right. I mean by the end of this. They will have these. I'm wondering crazy theories and they'll believe them so this is interesting daniel on one hand the criticism is that we we don't cover all of the lies and i get that a lot on twitter by the way he lied about. There's why didn't you say that on the other hand to rick's point. There are laws that are changing. The cfpb is becoming dismantled. The environmental protection agency is coming dismantled. The a native species act is under attack at some point. What do we choose. Do we choose to talk about how he lied again today about this being the greatest economy in the world or or do we ignore the lies i i don't know what success looks like we have to we have to do both and we have to be able to call out the lies that he's saying and also the destructive policies that he's spending out today he told thirteen he's also like you said he's dismantling the protection for endangered species. He's janata partisan matter by the way it never has been apart as smell. Republicans and democrats both agreed and republican conservatives and liberals the world over agree protect niggers but this administration doesn't want to protect anything or anyone other than white supremacy so that's just the fact but we have to do the work and that's the thing is that all of this gas leading all of the lies. It keeps us spinning thinning so that we can't pay attention to everything but that's the work that donald trump has poked put on our plates. We have to tell the to tell the truth about who he is what he's he's doing. He's manipulating the public and also tell the truth about the policies and who is hurting and why he's hurting them rick wilson fifteen seconds to you on you. Are there enough republicans to do something about this absolutely not there. There are no republicans who will stand up and be brave and tell the president he's allying wire and the problem is you can't the lies retail. You have to attack the liar himself and you have to go out and and none of them are going to do that. Danielle moody meals rick wilson. Thanks to both of you joining me tonight. That does it for all in you. You can catch us every weeknight at eight pm right here on m._s._n._b._c. Hey guys willie geist here this week on the sunday. Sit down podcast. I get together with one of hollywood's woods funniest stars tiffany haddish. You can get it now for free wherever you download your podcasts.

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Debate Special: The One Where Everyone Attacks Bernie

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Debate Special: The One Where Everyone Attacks Bernie

"There's a dictatorship in Cuba. What is said is what Barack Obama said. That Cuba made progress on education. Yes I think really really welcome to deconstructed. I'm Maddie Hasson. They all went off the Bernie Sanders last night at the democratic debate in South Carolina. They knock him out I. I'm hearing my name mentioned a little bit tonight. Are One boy today. Special Post debate edition of the show. I'll ask writer activist and some the surrogate Shaun king who also had some strong words about Michael Bloomberg. Getting a poss- again last night on the issue of spying on Muslims. It was painful to see him on that debate. Stage not be confronted for that. It was a debate in which the moderate has lost control and asked awful questions in which Michael Bloomberg dodged answering any tough questions in which the rest of the candidates talked over one another when they weren't all attacking Bernie Sanders. But here's the thing history was made because on. Us FOREIGN POLICY. We had a candidate. Say things that we've never heard A. Us presidential candidate say on the debate stage before Bernie Sanders analysis is right. The differences don't like is solutions. I don't believe that a government takeover of large parts of the economy makes any sense. I fought the Big Banks. I built the coalitions and I won I dug in. I did the work and then Bernie's team trashed me for. It Bernie voted five times against the Brady Bill. I'm not saying he's responsible for the nine desk but that man would not be able to get that weapon with the waiting period that Ben Will. I suggest until you are cleared Vladimir Putin thinks that Donald Trump is should be in United States. And that's why Russia is helping you get elected but you'll lose next week in Nevada. Former New York Michael Bloomberg made his debut on the Democratic debate stage and bore the brunt of most of the attacks last night in South Carolina though the crosshairs were firmly on Bernie Sanders as each and every one of his opponents tried to tear a strip out of the front runner in the very first answers. Because that's what Bernie Sanders is right now. Believe it or not. The democratic socialist from Vermont is the front runner in the race for the twenty twenty Democratic presidential nomination and it clearly drives some of his more right-wing rivals up the wall. He was mayor. Pete last night attacking Senator Saunders for his left-wing policies which Buddha judge claimed would cost Democrats the White House and control of Congress. I'll tell you exactly what it adds up to. It adds up to four more years of Donald Trump Kevin McCarthy is speaker of the House and the inability to get the Senate into democratic hands. But I'm not sure these attacks on Bernie did that. Much damage noted the boos from the crowd. Perhaps the first time saunders is being booed on a Democratic presidential stage and copy a coincidence that the tickets apparently what open to the general public but were available to wealthy democratic donors who are willing to folk out between one thousand seven hundred and fifty and three thousand two hundred dollars per ticket not your average Bernie Voter BAPS Elizabeth Warren. Meanwhile didn't hold back yet again. In her attacks on Mayor Bloomberg there was this remarkable exchange where she called him out on his record on women. Pregnant women who worked for him with a very specific and shocking example. When I was twenty one years old I got my first job as special education at teacher. I love that job and by the end of the first year. I was visibly pregnant. The principal wished me luck and gave my job to someone else. At least I didn't have a boss who said to me. Kill it the way. The Mayor Bloomberg ever lead that said to one of the employees people wanna chance to hear there's that seemingly pro Bloomberg brewing again from the audience weird right still the highlight of the night for me and I'm sure for millions watching on TV and online and around the world to was when Bernie Sanders did something. No major presidential candidate has ever done before in my lifetime or in anyone's lifetime. Frankly no not as cool for Medicare for all not his attack on billionaires but his demand for some basic honesty when it comes to discussions about US foreign policy occasionally. It might be good idea to be honest about American foreign policy and that includes the fact that America's overthrown governments all over the world in Chile in Guatemala in Iran. Did you hit a candidate for president of the United States mentioning. Just how bad. Us foreign policy is being for so many people across the developing world for so many victims of US led regime change walls and CIA backed coups. It's the kind of stuff you might have had on this show before from say Noam Chomsky who happens to be friend. Benny sound is by the way. But not from an actual presidential candidate on an actual presidential debate stage. By the way that was some does responding to red baiting from the moderators and from Joe Biden and Michael Bloomberg when they all tried to suggest he was some sort of Fidel Castro apologist. That was his response which was such a breath of fresh air. Whatever you think about his candidacy and if that wasn't enough to have you cheering your television screens last night. Well Bernie wasn't done. The man who now has a very good chance of becoming the first Jewish President in American history when asked a ridiculous question by the CBS moderators which seemed to suggest. Some sort of self hating Jew for refusing to go to the APEC conference next week because breaking news. Eight-pack provides a pro occupation platform to far-right bigots and his jobs. Bernie coal the Prime Minister of Israel a racist and then demanded rights for the Palestinians. What would you say to American Jews? Who MIGHT BE CONCERNED? You're not from their perspective. Supportive enough of Israel and specifically sir. Would you move the? Us Embassy back to Tel Aviv. Let me just the answer is it's something that we would take into consideration which excuse me but here is the point. I am very proud of being Jewish. I actually lived in Israel for some months but when I happen to believe. Is that right now? Sadly tragically in Israel through BB NETANYAHU. Reactionary racist who is now running that country. And I happen to believe I happen to believe that our foreign policy in the Mideast should be about is absolutely protecting the independence and security of Israel but you cannot ignore the suffering of the Palestinian people. We got to have a policy that reaches out to the Palestinians and the American and answered your question that will come within the context of bringing nations together in the mid east. I've said it before. And I'll say it again. If Bernie Sanders becomes president. He'll have a greater pap small radical impact on. Us foreign policy then he will on US Domestic Policy. And you can get as worked up as you like about comments. He made years ago about literacy rates improving in Cuba under Fidel Castro. But the fact is that right now. He's the only candidate on that stage. Who goes out of his way to bring the Palestinian struggle for freedom and human rights and whether he wins or loses this presidential race he has already shifted the democratic. Party's positioning on this issue. And Kudos to him for that he knew so where does Bernie Sanders? The front runner go from him. How much did the attacks on him? Last hurt his campaign for the presidency. And what kind of night did Michael Bloomberg and Joe Biden have to discuss all of this and more? I'm joined by. Shaun king the right to an activist behind the relaunch of the North Star newspaper and host of the podcast the break down. He's also a surrogate for the Bernie. Sanders Twenty Twenty presidential campaign and he joins me now from Brooklyn Sean. Thanks for joining me on deconstructed. He I'm glad to be here man. Glad talked to you about debate. Last night was a bit of a Shit Show. Was that it was. It was hard to watch and Obviously I'm a huge fan of Bernie Sanders and no right away. They started piling on Bernie but it wasn't just that it was just. It was just a mess from start to finish. I mean it was poorly moderated the candidates talking over each other and And I saw the same thing on line of People. Just saying like yeah. This is a mess and so I think is bad for the Democratic Party. Probably ultimately still good for Bernie because no candidate was really able to stand out in that debate and when he's the front runner if you can't break out it benefits him. Yeah he wins by default. I guess because he didn't win based on his performance it wasn't his strongest performance. He didn't have a lot of Clap lines In that sense compared to previous debates. Tommy Vita of pod. Save the world friend of this show. said that This debate put the BS in CBS. Which I thought was a apt description. It was it was peculiar. Yeah face shocker. Who's the campaign manager Bernie Sanders? He went out of his way to say it was poorly moderated. And I'm sure a lot of campaigns a lot of candidates campaigns will be saying that and CBS will probably have to do some kind of postmortem. One thing that came up Online was people pointing out news stories from South Carolina. Suggesting that to be in the audience. Last night you had to have spent around seventeen fifty one thousand seven hundred fifty dollars up to three thousand two hundred dollars to get a ticket because it wasn't open to the general public you had. The local Democratic Party was basically giving out tickets to sponsors and special guests. Do you think explains Some of the Huge applause that Michael Bloomberg Quebec last week and some of the booze that Bernie Sanders go. Oh Yeah I think so. I mean it was. It was peculiar where people would applaud even bad things at Mike Bloomberg said like they would they would. They would cheer for stuff that it wasn't even like an appropriate time to cheer it. It was a weird audience and and I think that definitely you know. Worked AGAINST BERNIE BECAUSE I it didn't seem like everyday people were really there. They kind of sold the tickets to the highest bidder so from the audience to the moderation. I I don't think any candidate is GONNA come out of that debate. Feeling good about it. It was a mess from start to finish just on In terms of people clapping and one person who did a lot of applause who's been leading in the polls consistently in South Carolina Def- despite dropping nationally. Despite doing really really badly in Iowa and New Hampshire is former vice president Joe Biden last. He'd have more energy than normally was very worked up with jabbing. He had some attack lines ready. Did he have his red bull? That's funny man you know. He did seem like he had a few rebels like his eyes. Were like even my kids. My kids and family watched the debate with me and they thought he was like alert On a weird way and I think a couple of things. We're at play there you know. I posted a video yesterday as well showing him nights ago as dinner in Charleston. Where he just said he was running for the United States Senate and then he said. If you don't vote for me you can vote. For the other Biden names. Joe Biden Democratic candidate for the United States. Senate look we over your help out in both the other by giving me a look though okay and so I and that video that video kind of trended across the country and got millions of views just in a few hours and so I think he felt the pressure to show that he was alert incapable and in his defense I thought he was more alert than than normal more than I even expected him to be. So it no I. I agree with that although I I saw someone A former State Department official saying this is a good night for Biden. It's one of his strong nights He hasn't been he hasn't been doing any gaffes or saying any mad stuff which is kind of how we talk about trump. He's almost graded on occur at the bar so low sanding demented so therefore he had a good night right and that is kind of the bar for for Joe Biden. That if he doesn't make a complete fool of himself he gets high grades and so. I mean that was kind of the thing although he did say that he didn't write the crime. Bill and You know a and nobody was there to push back against it like he. You know Tom Steiner said you wrote the Crime Bill and he just looked Tom Steiner. Ride in the face. I said no I did it. And it's like that would have been a great moment for one of the moderators to say actually Sir. Not only did you ride. You defended it for years on end. Yeah it was it was it was peculiar though. Here's the thing showed. I gave up on debate. Moderated TV debate moderators back in two thousand sixteen. If not before I mean. They tend not to ask tough questions. They don't do follow ups. They hide behind the kind of agreed rules that they've set with the DNC. But what about the other candidates on stage? What's frustrated me over the last? Six seven months of watching these democratic debates is that the candidates really. Don't go off to one another. You know we on you know we watch these debates and we highlight the lions where they do but in general they're actually not that tough on each other with the exception of POPs Elizabeth Warren even Bernie Sanders when he goes off to Joe Biden. You always face with. He's my friend and gives him a hug. Market Bloomberg last week in Nevada got hammered. Which is why last week's debate really did stand out a lot of people because it was the first time we saw you know. Proper attacks on a candidate and a candidate's record But even last night as you say when Biden flatly tells ally no one calls him out on Air Michael Bloomberg carried on telling multiple lies about you know he was the guy who cut down. Stop and Frisk. No it wasn't. It was a court ruling that cut down the stop and Frisk on his wall in any city. Cut It down. By ninety five percent which also is a complete fabrication. He he continues to say it was never cut down by ninety five percent in his administration and he just continues to just throw these things out there and but would you accept even as a Bernie supporter. It's Elizabeth Warren who stands out when it comes to taking on kind of the Bloomberg. Even the bite and ask untruths yet. I think Bernie's IMO in the debates is to always advance his agenda and so even though many of us would love for for Bernie to look any of the candidates in the face and kind of just squarely. Tell them about themselves. He did call a Bloomberg out a few times. But it's really nice style. I mean Bernie has kind of a tried and true method of discontinuing to speak about his agenda and his policies and so even a lot of us would love for him to be able to kind of look Biden in the face of Bloomberg in the face and really tell them about himself. That's just not really his Mo and so you can almost predict in every debate. Exactly how burn is going to do? You know he's going to speak about Medicare for all you know. He'll call out different types of bigotry around the world last night. He did a few things that I thought were unique in profound. He called out The overthrow of foreign government foreign governments by the United States. I don't know that I've ever heard that in a presidential debate like you know it was. It was historic. It was historic. Yeah it was. So he'll have moments like that where he says something about the overthrow foreign governments by the American government. He'll have moments like that. He'll have moments where he called out the bigotry and racism of the Israeli government. And Benjamin Netanyahu. He'll be the only person on stage to do that but he. He generally just won't have confrontational moments. I also think he's kind of taking the persona of the front runner of just saying Hey. I'M IN I. I'm going to promote my ideas and policies. You all can attack me but I'm just going to continue to do what works for me. The problem with that of course there is a logic to that but the the downside to the causes everybody who's become a front runner took hits and then wasn't a front runner whether Joe Biden Elizabeth. Warren had a moment in the sun and I guess if people are supporters of Bernie Sanders. They might be worrying. You know walk. When he's attacked as this apologised dictators of Fidel Castro. Should he come out strong last night? He mentioned how well you know. I'm only saying Obama was saying. He pointed out rightly that Michael Bloomberg is an actual supporter Communist Party. The Chinese Communist Party Bloomberg thinks that Xi Jinping is not a dictator and Bernie said that but it was it was. It was a reluctant attack which he offered in defense of himself. And I just wonder whether if he took a more Warren stance where Elizabeth Warren was just blasting Bloomberg all night. Long for the second thing is just not how he does it and I you know I think they each have their style actually thought Elizabeth. Warren was was masterful. Last week in the debate is well. I thought she took him on. I thought it was deeply impactful the way she confronted Michael Bloomberg last night though was just such a mess in general. That's true anytime you try to take on somebody everybody just spoke over each other. The moderators really weren't able to intervene in. So Even Elizabeth. Warren really didn't have any Gotcha moments that I think she hoped to have I. I feel like a lot of ways. She needed to kind of either duplicate or improve upon her last performance for her to break out. There was a great moment where she did remind everyone that Michael Bloomberg was funding Republican Senate campaigns as recently as twenty sixty was strong which I I've long argued is one of the strongest cases against Bloomberg. He dodged it. He was asked by the moderate to deal with point he. There were many moments lost where Bloomberg managed to dodge having to answer a straight question about his record And sometimes he didn't ostracize record. Ego asked about sugary drinks and Trans Fats. When he was mayor of New York he didn't get off again about spying on Muslims while he was mayor of new because apparently Muslims have less value in political media discourse than sugary drinks and transfats. Oh is true man. It was it was painful to see him on that debate. Stage NOT BE CONFRONTED FOR THAT. But not just there it just in the mainstream media in general on that issue of just gross level of surveillance of Muslims all over New York City. He's never been held to account for that. Yep and I do. I think I think you're right as painful as it is to say. Muslims in America are not treated as a priority citizens when it comes to basic human rights and dignity and so Michael Bloomberg is just not being held responsible for a lot of aspects of his time as mayor. I will say I thought he performed better in this debate like his. His performance was so bad before many worse. Getty show last. He was such a car. Crash oversee came along prepped but then he actually had the nerve to claim last night that he won last week's debate which is a kind of classic kind of billionaire. Billionaire tactic just so confused by I even had to go back and look at it again when he said I didn't know if he was trying to tell a joke that he had rehearsed and it just fell flat but when he said that he won the last debate. Like I think you meant to be joking. I guess it was it was. It was a weird moment. I'm surprised they show up because I would have thought after I did. Such a good job and beating them last week that they'd be a little bit afraid to do that. The weirdest moment optimus revealing moment is when he said he had helped fund rightly. And he's right about this. He'd helped fund the House Democratic Blue Wave in the twenty eighteen midterms. He had helped Nancy. Pelosi take bows by funding a lot of Democratic candidates but then he referred to having he said he bought them and then he corrects himself and says he funded the all of the new Democrats that came in and put Nancy Pelosi in charge and gave the Congress the ability to control this president. I got them the talk about Freudian slips. There's a billionaire saying I bought politicians. Yemi my whole family again. My wife and kids were watching the debate with me and we all heard it and like went crazy with like he just slipped up and said he the congress like he and he said it. And you know I immediately wrote on on twitter like did you all hear what I just heard. I think it was A. It's how we view him that that we all view him as somebody who thinks he buys influencing positions but to hear him actually kind of have that Freud and moment in slip up himself. Yeah I mean that's just who he is. My argument from the beginning with Bloomberg is being. You know his his take is that you know. Oh I can't be bought because I'm a billion and I'm not taking donations. The problem is not that he can't be bought. The problem is he's the one doing the buying. Oh yeah absolutely. And and so what you now find. Is People endorsing him? Basically even contradicting their own personal values and ethics to support him be it local politicians in New York or Congress people around the country who stand against a lot of the things that he's done but because he has funded them or programs that they care about they've come out to endorse them nonetheless and so I I'm continuously disturbed by the role of his money in this election and I think the struggle is on an average day in this country. There's so much coming at us from the trump administration from billionaires like Mike Bloomberg and others that it's hard to keep up with all the problems that are confronting us and so on an average day is it's almost like a fire hose of problems coming at you and by the time the day is over. You can hardly remember the problems of that morning and Bloomberg's definitely a part of that one of the things Bloomberg Bragged about and to be fair. He has bragging rights is how much money he spent on gun control advocacy organizations at which he has and those organizations have done good work at grassroots level for Bernie Sanders. Your candidate Gun Control has been a bit of a problem as an issue that people use to attack him with Last night we saw Joe Biden. Bring up the fact that Bernie. Sanders voted five times against the Brady Bill. In the nineteenth which mandated. I think five day waiting periods on purchasing guns Bernie votes against five times and while Bernie. Sanders was keen to tell the crowd. He has a D. minus rating from the NRA. Today the realities in one thousand nine hundred eighty in one of his races the NRA did back Bernie Sanders against a Republican. How much going forward you think gun control is going to be a problem for Bernie. I don't think it's going to be a problem at all. I think there was a moment that I thought was for me. One of the two or three most profound moments of the debate it was it only took five seconds but while Bernie was being confronted about his voting record his voting record from the year. Two thousand all the way now of the past years On gun control has been great and so many particularly young people from March for our lives and others have endorsed him but he looks he looks square in the cameras. Said listen we've all had bad votes and those votes of mine were bad votes and it you know people just moved on but for me. It was part of why I've chosen to support him. I don't like those votes either and I've heard his argument that hey in parts because I I represent a state. That's particularly rural where guns means something differently in Vermont than they mean across the country and that's been his defense of them in the past but tonight I thought he'd just Listen those were actually bad votes. And that's part of what I love about him that he's he's willing to admit a mistake to talk about something that he regrets. I think it's one of the things that makes him unique on that stage while everybody else pretty much pretended as if they had never had a bad vote in their life that they never actually supported the policies that they did support when it came to those votes he said Yep those are bad votes and I think it requires that level of honesty and decency for him to be able to move forward with his record like most gun. Control Advocates Him Now and feel that he's really strong on that. I don't know if it's most gun control advocates. Obviously some do and some. Don't yeah that's fair man yet S. Fair. I mean I've heard even over the past couple of weeks as Bernie has been kind of put out there as a front runner. I've heard many prominent gun control advocates. The asked if they feel good about where Bernie is on guns today. Yes and universally. I've heard him give strong answers on where he is today. I think it's fair. To Critique is pass votes and I I think it's a good point for take everybody's it's a good point issue is not. Did you have bad vote so bad records but do own that or not in a way that for example Joe Biden doesn't own his Iraq will vote. He pretends it was something done reluctantly that he was tricked by George W Bush that he turned against it once. The war started. That's not owning your bad vote on Iraq that's being dishonest with electric is the same thing when my Bloomberg on stopping free exactly where he says. Hey it kind of it kind of devolved into something bad. It's like no you oversaw. Stop and Frisk and doubled and tripled down every chance you've got don't just say it kind of took on a bad life of its own. You did back during the back during the twenty fourteen Gaza bombing if I remember correctly Bernie was getting booed town holes because he was repeating pro. Israel troops about you know the need to defend themselves from Hamas. That's why they're bombing Gaza. He's moved on from that to be fed to Bernie last night. He's calling Benjamin Netanyahu racist going out of his way to defend the rights of Palestinians. So you know. Evolution is a good thing as long as you own your old bad views before a time show on one of the big concerns that Democratic voters tell pollsters they do have is about the age of a candidate it does come up in polls that they're not comfortable with an older Candida Bernie Sanders is seventy eight. He'll be seventy-nine if he wins the presidency. He'll be the oldest person to ever ascend to the office of President of the United States. How worried are you about the age factor? I mean he talked about the importance of energizing people in bringing energy to the campaign. You know. He's an old dude who had a heart attack. Who's getting attacked over medical records? Who came on this show and wouldn't guaranteed to meet. He will run to terms. How worried are you about the a-jangle? I'm not worried about it. But I do understand. People saying hey. Is it an issue? Like we're we're running a campaign for president of the United States and so people have every right to kind of put each candidate including Bernie kind of through the grinder and say like hey is izzy healthy is he fit is prepared to do this and all I can like. I've never been paid by this campaign. I'm a complete volunteer supporter. All I can say is from all of my history with Bernie. He has like boundless energy. And I think it's it Kinda shows in the movement that he's built the schedule that he keeps the events that he leads. You know it's fair for people to ask questions about his health. I feel good actually about the medical records that he released. I thought they were thorough enough for me for many doctors. Who is I've seen? Come out and say these records were thorough. I don't have a problem with people. Having questions about it like at the the role is so important that for me. I HAVE TO BALANCE OUT. Probably Twenty five different things. Of course they matter to me about each candidate and so I think for people. It's fair like if if that's the main thing that concerns you would the national impact your vote for me. I think he's healthy. I think he I think is mental. Fitness is there. I don't think you've ever heard anybody question. His his intellectual acuity his ability to think through the issues of but as far as people saying like. Hey it is age a factor. I don't have a problem with people. Having that question I guess on the Health Front. He didn't help himself with the whole full disclosure which means different things to different people. A lot of people don't think he's released his full disclosure but before we run out of time. I just want to throw forward the South Carolina. Primary is coming up. That's why the debate was in South Carolina last night. If Joe Biden Wind South Carolina and he pledged on the debate stage last night he will win South Carolina. Is He back in the race? I think so? Yeah I think South Carolina is a huge deal for Joe Biden and I think he he absolutely has to win like enough loses South Carolina. I really don't see a path forward for him. I think if Bernie wins South Carolina. I think it's a huge upset. Oh Yeah I've I've been there to campaign. His team is working around the clock there on the ground. When Bernie started in South Carolina? He was down almost twenty five points now in many polls within the margin of error. I think Bernie has kind of a punchers chance of winning a South Carolina. I think it's GonNa be. It's GONNA be hard we're GONNA fight for every last vote. Biden is the is the favourite. There he's kind of put all his eggs in the South Carolina basket and If he wins I think it'll it'll be close but he has to win there and if he does win. Yeah thank you. He lives to fight another day. You'll get a massive. He'll get a massive media boost as well because as we discussed earlier. He's graded on a curve him. Winning one will be the equivalent of Bernie winning two or three. But let me just ask you this final question cam this party especially the elites in this party especially the democratic establishment. The Bernie himself attacked on twitter. The other day. Can It really get behind saunders if he is the undeniable undisputed nominee of the Party? Because no matter how good or popular candidate Bernie Sanders may be no matter. How good you may think he is. He's simply cannot defeat. Donald Trump in November. If he does not have a united party behind him oh I think he can. Yeah I think I think the value can win even with the divided Democratic Party. Well I think the I think the primaries are always divisive in some kinds of ways like you know I. I've been voting in American presidential election since the year. Two Thousand and sometimes the candidates have supported at one. Sometimes they've lost. They've always been amazingly contentious and we forget how ugly two thousand eight was really against between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama an even Joe Biden when he was in the race like those campaigns. The Clinton and Obama campaigns were at each other's throats they were. They were super dirty and the same questions were being asked like. Can these two groups ever get together as I've seen over the past week? Several United States senators who are moderate to conservative Democrats. Come out and say that. They felt good about burning that they would support burning if he won the nomination. Like I think people will come around in and I think it's a huge part of the responsibility that is on Bernie is on this campaign to To win people over and so we're not there yet like I think it's going to continue to be contentious for the next couple of months. My best guess is that this is probably going to go deep into to May or June and There's a lot of work to do between now. And then but it's going to be on Bernie and then if Bernie wins the nomination A lot of people are going to have to put ego aside in the way that he did for Hillary Clinton ultimately Bernie campaigned all over the country Sometimes doing even more events for Hillary Clinton Than Hillary was doing for south. And if he can do that for Hillary my hope is that people would end up doing that for Bernie. I and I think they will sean. We'll have to leave it. Thanks so much for joining me on deconstructed. Thank you man. Good to talk to you. Always that was Shaun. 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"Support for this NPR podcast and the following message come from better help online counseling by licensed professional counselors specializing in issues including depression, stress and anxiety. Visit better help dot com slash one eight to learn more and get ten percent off your first month. This is one A. I'm Kimberly Adams in Washington, sitting in for Joshua Johnson. It's officially debate time. One, New Jersey Senator Corey Booker former housing secretary Leon Castro New York City mayor Bill de Blasio. Former Maryland congressman John Delaney. Hawaii congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard Washington. Governor Jay Inslee. Minnesota Senator Amy clover show. Former Texas congressman Beddoe Aurora. Ohio congressman Tim Ryan, and Massachusetts, Senator, Elizabeth Warren and of the more than twenty candidates running for the democratic presidential nomination took the stage in Miami to talk about a lot of topics and quickly tonight. We'll hear from ten more hosted by NBC news, MSNBC, and Telemundo, last night's debate was many voters introduction to some of these candidates. How did they do? Did they make a name for themselves or just get lost in the noise here in the studio to help us answer? Those and other questions is Jessica Taylor a political reporter for NPR and. A senior political reporter for the cook political report. Jessica welcome back to one A. Thanks kimberly. We also want to know did the candidates, talk about the things voters actually care about we've heard from a lot of people so far as part of one as across America project. It's a collaboration with six public radio member stations across the country to make sure we are exploring what your communities are thinking about this. Election cycle today. We'll check in with voters of round the country to hear what they think one of those people is Brandon Johnson. He's a Wichita city council member and the vice chair of the Kansas Democratic Party, and he joins us now from our across America partner station. Kate M U W in Wichita, Kansas, Brandon. Welcome. Thank you for having me, so pleasure, being on. Let's start with you, Brandon. You're at a watch party for last night's debate in Wichita what did you think of the candidates, I thought the candidates did a great job? You know, we saw the first ten go on. And you know, the Katie p. Hosted a watch party in two cities here in Kansas. I thought the candidates got really straight to the issues gave some really good ideas and things to talk about for today. And what did you think of the debate overall in terms of the actual content I thought the content was good. You know everyone had their talking points but through some of the back and forth banter, we really got to hear some ideas and some challenges to it and ways to get to some of those solutions. Can you give us a little bit of a visual of what your watch party was like? And what the vibe was in the room throughout the evening. Well, yeah, it was great. It was at a venue called the pump house here in Wichita outdoor venue, the weather was great. And we had probably fifty or so Democrats, they're watching folks were excited. I think Elizabeth Warren won the night with the turn out there, every time she spoke or made a point. You know, it was a lot of cheering going on. But it was it was a great event. That's interesting. So even in this very crowded debate format somebody stood out Elizabeth Warren to your crowd did any other candidates take you by surprise, you know, I hadn't. Heard a lot from Cory Booker. I'd seen him speak before. I'm sorry. Senator Booker he did a really good job. Hooley secretary Castro had some really good points as well. I think those three not only in my opinion, but seemed to get most of the cheers at the event, the other candidates kind of stayed around the same. I'd say Tulsi Gabbard had some really good points in regard to the war, but I don't think she rose to the level of those other three, a lot of you sent us your thoughts about how the debate was set up Stephen told us he wasn't watching last night. He tweeted with NBC controlling the production and distribution. It will be a joke five to seven minutes for each candidate is not adequate. No fact checking or challenging, and another listener who did watch called us to tell us what she thought. Listen. Hi, this is artists from Sherborne, and I wonder fresh, my disappointment in a way that the debate for moderated and designed. I felt that I wanted to know more about the candidates on either end who have pulled not as high and I don't know as much about them. But instead, most of the focus was given to the five in the middle. And I think that, that tells me that the media is going to define for me, who my candidate going to be, and I'm not happy with that. We've only heard from the first ten we've got ten more and I already feel like I'm being led down a path. So I thought candidate showed very well. And I was very excited about the presentation of their information, but I wish I knew more about Chelsea. I wish I knew more about the branch of people at their Jessica. Tell us about the structure of this debate. There were ten people on stage with a lot of rules in place. What were the standards set by NBC and how well do you think that worked out? So the standard set by NBC is there were no opening statements which is sort of an odd way to do it. And the candidates weren't even really introduced the eldest came out. For a picture. They went up and just went straight to their podiums. So they were asked you at sixty seconds to respond to a question in for a follow up, you would have thirty seconds and then there were closing statements though. And I mean it you saw candidates as they tend to do during debates. They pushed their time, you know, moderators would try to cut them off. They tried to get in there with something or interrupt or something. I mean, the fact is this is ten candidates, this is, you know, and of course, we have ten more tonight. I mean, it's just a huge, he'll is difficult to Mont to, to corral with that many people, you know, I saw some people on Twitter saying, you know, maybe a better idea would have been, you know, five for the first hour five for the next hour or something, it's just hard to try to get in there. And really, you know, we NPR did we looked at how much time? Each candidate got Cory Booker had the most time speaking time of the night with almost eleven minutes, followed by beta aerobic with just over ten Elizabeth Warren nine minutes. Twenty seconds. I mean and it goes on. Down. Jay Ensley actually had the least amount of speaking time with about five minutes. So this overall is not a lot of time for for any candidate. But you can you can see. I mean, I think that's why you know, we got some I think more policy steps substance from, you know, as Brandon said, I think, Elizabeth Warren. I mean, she was at the center of the stage. She is she was the front runner of this night, and it's sort of in the top tier of polling candidates. I do think, you know who Ian Castro. I think had a really good night. He was able to talk, I think, especially on immigration. He has some very detailed proposals there. And he actually got into it a bit with bit or work last night over immigration. We would not detain any family fleeing violence. In fact, fleeing the deadliest countries on the face of the planet today, we would implement a family case management program, so they could be cared for in the community at a fraction of the cost, and then we would rewrite our immigration laws in our own image, free dreamers forever from any fear of deportation by making them. US citizens here. In this country invest in solutions in Central America work with regional stakeholders. So there's no reason to make two thousand mile journey till secretary thirty seconds be very clear, the reason that they're separating these little children from their families. Is that they're using section thirteen twenty five of that act which criminalizes coming across the border to incarcerate the Pri the parents, and then separate them some of us on this stage have called to end that section to terminate it some congressman aerobic have not? And I want to challenge all of the candidates. I just think it's a mistake, I think it's a mistake, and I think that, that if you truly want to change the system that we got a repeal that section if not, thank you, then it might as well, say speaking on immigration and beta Rourke and Hawaii on Castro Jose tweeted, I found the use of Spanish in a debate as reflecting of the changing demographics of not only the Democratic Party, but also of the nation as a whole, Jessica. What did you think of that? It just sort of surprise me you had, I think it was better that came out there very first and one of his answers, which was actually about tax rates. And he started answering in Spanish attorney it into into there and actually didn't answer the question about seventy percent marginal tax rates. And then you saw Cory Booker use it and who in Castro a little bit. I think it does reflect the more and more people are in this country are bilingual or Spanish, their native language, and to have to communicate to those people, and to make them feel as though. They're a part of it. And I mean this debate, of course, was co sponsored by Telemundo, as well. You know, I heard some people say no they wish there had been subtitles or something, you know, maybe maybe debate moderators. They weren't ready for this or something. So he could see that tonight. I mean, you know, people to judge she speaks Norwegian and a bunch of other languages. So who knows what he could break out into. Brandin speaking of issues, what were the big issues that you didn't hear last night that you felt should have been a part of the debate I wanted to hear a lot about criminal Justice reform. There is a little bit said, I think by Senator Booker regarding the first step back, but I wanted to hear more details about what can we do work in with states like Kansas, you know, we've been talking about, but what can we do to go further than we have the first step back was a again. It was a good first up, but had not strong enough. And when you look at the majority population of those in prison, it's people of color. So to me, it's something really important that we need to discuss and get to the bottom of comments on our Facebook page, it felt like a three ring circus at times with many moderators and candidates. But I was glad to hear from each of the candidates because I'm searching for the one who will be the less best lead Houlihan Castro was the biggest surprise to me. He did very well and exceeded my expectations whereas aerobic Booker and Warren met expectations where. 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I want to add two more voices to the conversation that we've met as part of our across America project. Joining us from WB H M in Birmingham, Alabama is page Horace of vice president for the Alabama young Democrats page. Welcome to one A. Thanks for having me on. And we also have Kate knock as well is who's in a studio at Michigan radio, one of our across America partners. Kate is a senior at the university of Michigan Kate. Glad to have you with us. It's a pleasure to be here. So Kate, let's start with you. First of all. How would you define yourself as a voter? And what did you think of what you saw last night? So I would consider myself a moderate, Republican, actually, was the former vice chair of the college Republicans here at the university of Michigan last year. But with everything I've seen with Trump since twenty sixteen I've been really disappointed in his lack of basic morals and integrity. So i'm. Definitely considering voting democrat in twenty twenty I just hope to see someone who's a bit more moderate. I think that Senator Amy klobuchar of last night really stood out to me as more moderate, and electable candidate. However, I saw general shift to be more radically liberal, from people like Warren Castroneves Booker, as well as surprisingly Tim Ryan, and beta who I thought would be a little bit more centrist than they were on their policies. So I just hope that tonight we see a bit more moderates that could compel me to vote democrat, I don't agree with things like, you know, free college for all universal healthcare, Medicaid for all. So I just want someone who can appeal to me as more of a moderate, and also I feel has integrity as a human being page. How would you identify yourself as a voter, and what was your assessment of last night? I'm actually a person I kind of really does look at the heart of the candidate. And then how the are going to work amongst the people, and with congress as well. So I try to says the candidate is a hole in look at which rates in positive traits that they can provide. And that kind of helps me start looking more at them in detail as to what their policies in what issues they're trying to focus on. So for me, the person that was just kind of looking at a little bit more in this debate was Elizabeth Warren. And she stood out last night, she came out with an opening statement that was really strong and she worked at and she's my candidate from last night. Page, you were at the Alabama young Democrats watch party last night. What did you hear from other people in the room? Everybody was actually cheering on Elizabeth Warren. I mean, we did watch a lot of facial expressions throughout this, that night, but overall, we were hearing a lot of tears in reference to. Women's rights, because that's a big issue going on within our state, the health care as well as looking at, you know, we want to hear more about criminal Justice reform. We didn't necessarily hear a lot of that. But yet and still we heard some of it. So we heard a lot of applauses with those, but those were the issues that I heard the most on the first question last night, did go to Massachusetts, Senator Elizabeth Warren about how her proposed policies might impact the economy which most people democrat and Republican agree is doing well white right now. Here's what she said. I think of it this way, who is this, a Konami really working for? It's doing great for thinner Infinity slice atop human. Great. So giant drug companies this is not doing great for people who are trying to get a prescription filled. It's a great for people who want to invest in private prisons, just not fifty the African Americans, Latin vaccine, families are torn. Pardons. Lives are destroyed and whose communities are ruined. It's still in great for giant oil companies that want to drill everywhere. Just not for the rest of us who are watching climate change bear down upon us, Brandon. Let's bring you back into the conversation. What do you think about the debate starting with questions about the economy? I think it was good because I was one of the things that Republicans continue to talk about as a strength right now. So talking about the strength was good, and Senator Warren, you know, rightly highlighted how it's not really strong for everyone else. I mean you're moderate lower income, folks aren't seeing the benefits of this economy that we continue to hear has been so strong is the economy. A big primary issue for you in particular, it is in a sense of doing more for the middle and lower classes. I mean, we continue to help those who are wealthy with with the tax cuts that we've seen. I mean they've gained so much, but your folks who are and not former speakers middle. Class four hundred thousand your folks who make a hundred thousand fifty thousand or less, what benefit or they get an we're not seeing that the only thing that we really seen as a child tax credit extension, and President Obama, actually did that prior. So again, where are we going to help them? And I'm really interested to hear what the proposals are to help those folks Kate last night. We asked our text club, the one, a text club what they wanted to hear disgust at the debate, and they overwhelmingly said climate change, but it took nearly an hour and a half to get to that in the debate. Did you have any thoughts on the placement of climate change as a discussion in the debate? Yeah. I mean I was surprised it was so late. But I do think that they had a pretty extensive discussion about it, especially we saw Jay Inslee governor of Washington, bring it up pretty much every single time. He had the floor. So I do think and Bego work as well. So I do think that it's an issue at the top of their minds but at the same time I thought that it was more extensively covered than any other big issues including taxes, free trade as people have said, criminal Justice. So I was I thought it was enough time. But I was surprised it took so long to get there to anything else surprise you about being missing in the debates. Yeah. Like I said, free trade was a big one for me. One of the biggest reasons I have been disappointed with Trump is because he says he believes in fair trade, not free trade. And that's just not something I can subscribe to. So I was hoping to see some more commentary on that and stronger positions. But there was ten candidates in a lot of things to cover. So I'm not surprised. It didn't come up. Jessica, what did you think about the topics the economy I feel like it's always sort of the base issue? So I think it made sense today started with that, and then immigration of courses in the minds of people with the horrendous conditions that are happening with the detention centers. And then, of course photograph, the we have seen of the, the man and his daughter trying to cross the river. And so I think that those sort of were maybe more pressing in the minds as several people have said, it's just you can't get to all of the questions temp. Ohio Representative Tim Ryan actually did speak to this just a tad bit. Maybe not on the free trade issue. But you know, he's from Ohio, he's a moderate. He's, you know, said the Democratic Party has moved too far to the left, and he actually did sort of speech that manufacturing base, and that's so important there and his his area there. I mean he wanted district that he he's in a district that President Trump had one and so. It's so you're looking at just the issues. There are very important has congressional districts, I think he was sort of trying to the steer the debate, they're a little bit. He made one of the few attacks directly on Trump in the debate criticizing the president for according to him, causing his area to lose jobs manufacturing jobs. Right. Right. And when you look at the numbers, I mean, Democrats have strong argument, they're there to make because some of these companies that Trump will tout have continued with layoffs and things too. And so, I think it will probably come up, more more tonight. But again, it was just a lot of issues to crown to try to cover even into ours. I was surprised by how fast it felt like it went by page what did that stage look like to you? And how do you think that affected the way that it played out? I mean that stage to me, represented the future. I mean you didn't just have women, you did have a black man at there as well. You know, it's just a ever changing demographic, and is starting to represent America from even the Hispanic community, you did have representatives. And so for me it was actually just touched my heart. You know, to actually see that much diversity and to also, you know, kinda pull younger people and more, because this is what your future is starting to look like is not looking like just white women, or just white men is looking at everybody and, you know, in compassi, what America was founded on in who we are, who we are going to be in a future. And so it was a great feeling to see everyone of their Kate was that appealing to you. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. It was it was refreshing to hear from diverse group of people at the same time, though I'm much more of the policy, not the person. So I wanted to hear what they had to say instead of just looking at, you know, their gender their, their color. Obviously, it's a factor, but I don't know. I just don't think it's as big of a, an inclination for me to vote for someone and Brandon, what were your thoughts on sort of the people who were up on the stage as you sort of walked away last night, was beautiful women and men of color up. There was great our party continues to, to show that we have folks involved in area, and while policies important representation matters. So when people see folks up there who look like now, who possibly could be president, you know, it makes a big impact for folks and probably will increase turnout because people see that, you know, they actually could be up down that stage. I'd like to correct. One thing I just said. Her second said, they Clinton that Trump one Tim Ryan's congressional district Clinton wanted, but Trump did much better than than previous by about ten points than previous Republicans have their right in Ryan made the point that Trump had promised to bring more manufacturing jobs in another Lorraine wrote us a different Lorraine from before as an independent who looking for an alternative to Trump. I was impressed by congressman Delaney. He seems like someone who can get things done and has a good understanding of economics. I was disappointed that he got. So little speaking time as compared to the other candidates, if Democrats are going to win they're going to need to win over independent voters, and this sort of gets at a one of the challenges of this debate, which is that it was the moment for some of these lesser known candidates Jessica to sort of try to brand themselves to voters who might not know them. Who did that successfully? I think Castro definitely, I think that, you know, despite being a former Obama administration official, not a lot of people know a lot about him. And you know. Title is someone. I mean, we talked earlier about sort of that tiff between him and Bego, they came in sort of this highly touted candidate has had this meteoric rise, almost flip Texas in the Senate and sort of a wonder kin and his star has really faded. I don't think beta really helped himself last night. Castro came off with a lot of policy proposals, and, like Elizabeth Warren. He has put out a lot of policy proposed on his website from the beginning. And I think that came across that he was very prepared. I also think that I mean to Blasios entered the race the latest if anyone. And so he came out, you know, with very progressive stances. Of course, he and Elizabeth Warren were the only ones that raise their hands, which I think Republicans are definitely going to seize on as not just implimented Medicare for all, but to do away with all private insurance employer plans, Ashley tweeted, I hope the Democrats can keep their eye on the prize. And remember that if they want to be Trump. They need to find someone that can make both existing Democrats happy and win over. Disinfect. Which is Republicans. But there's been only one round of debate so far. What might be in store tonight when the second group of candidates take the stage in Miami? We'll ask our panel of voters in a moment. Stay close. Support also comes from the platinum card from American Express conversations and civil debate in our society push us forward and connect us with the rest of the world with the platinum card, earn membership rewards points on virtually all your purchases, which can be turned into anything from nights out to flights away. 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Sometimes for the first time, here's what Senator Cory Booker shared when he answered a question related to gun control, both even worse, as I hear gunshots in my neighborhood. I think I'm the only one I hope I'm the only one on this panel here that had seven people shot in their neighborhood. Just last week, someone I knew Shahad Smith was killed with an assault rifle at the top of my block last year for millions of Americans. This is not a policy issue. This is an urgency. And for those of not been directly affected their tired of living in a country where their kids go to school to learn about reading writing, and arithmetic and how to deal with an active shooter in their school. Jessica Senator book Booker referenced his neighborhood several times during the debate. What do you think about these attempts almost like branding, by the candidates? In the first debate, I think you want to humanize yourself. You want to tell your story and for him. I mean Newark is a major part of historian, even before he was elected to the Senate. He was becoming a national figure for his work there. You know, in a major city, just outside of New York City. I also thought that de Blasios answer on this was was very interesting because he pointed out, he's the only he was the only person up there with a black sun. His, his wife is black his son, Dante is by racial and talking about how he would talk to him about if you have an encounter with the police what to do. So I think that's sort of brought a very humanizing aspect to it too. And then club ajar somewhere in the middle. I mean, she's from Minnesota and gun rights, or a very big issue there. So, you know, she talked about, you know, wanting to find some sort of solution that could appeal to, to both sides in a way. But, you know, the people, you know if with valid reasons still could keep their keep their guns as well. So I mean, I think that overall I overall in this. Bait? We saw a lot of the we saw how far the party had moved left, you know there were some instances there with the club sometimes and Ryan pointing toward more moderate solutions, but I mean I think especially on gun control the party as a whole definitely has moved left. And you saw some of those stories telling sort of why why they reach those conclusions. Kate. What did you think of that gun control conversation? Yeah. As a big supporter of the second amendment rights. That's a big. I guess, consolation I might have to make twenty twenty you know, I'm going to be settling either way. So that's one issue where I just do not. See, I did I with almost every single one of these candidates if not every single one. So was there. Anyone whose message was the least offensive to you. Not particularly about gun control. But as I previously said, Senator Kohl, char seemed, the most moderate in the seemed like the person that a moderate person could vote for because at the end in her closing statements, you know, you, you previously talked about humanizing yourselves as candidates, and when she started talking about how she wouldn't make, you know, the big blanket promises that a lot of her colleagues were making on the stage. She just said that she would try to lead with integrity and be leader that could be respected on the international stage, and, and that really resonated with me as a person who's considering, you know, the integrity of the person as well as their policies page last night, the moderators asked each of the candidates, what they considered to be the greatest geopolitical threat to the US, most of the candidates, listed China nuclear weapons and or climate change. New york. Mayor Bill de Blasio said Russia, Washington governor, Jay Inslee said President Trump. How would you have answered that? Question. And, and what do you think of the answers that you heard? Everyone to me covered the basis because all of those things are actually important to me. But I mean we do have a lot of big threats going on right now. We do see a lot of problems with climate change. And what are we doing about that, when, you know, is affecting our citizens as well, as you know, our problems with Russia and past couple of years, you know, we're having some problems with how they impact elections and impede on us in a manner. So they all touch their bases. But the most important one to me was actually Donald Trump. I'm that hit the nail on ahead because I was like we do have a big problem and we're actually kind of having these problems because of him I'm not necessarily climate change. But, you know, just kind of like different things, and how he's actually impacting how we function how we rent run our country. And also, how our citizens live on a day-to-day basis, the decisions that he's making is affecting us as a whole, and I think that's just the big problem Benjamin emailed. If you picked out most. Quotes from the primary the average person, probably couldn't tell you who said which, quote the candidates need to distinguish themselves and not all run on the same platitudes. So as we get a little bit overwhelmed. Let's move on and talk about tonight's debate Jessica, who's on the stage tonight. And what should we expect? So this is, you know, when when they were dividing up these debates, they didn't want to have an undercard for the lower polling candidates like Republicans had to do in two thousand sixteen so NBC randomly, drew names. But by the luck of the draw more of the higher polling candidates are in tonight's debate. And so, I think this is the one that more people may be interested in, and that we could get, you know, sort of separation from some of these people on so right at the center of the stage is going to be former vice president, Joe Biden, along with mayor Buddha. Judge if south bend, Indiana Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont Senator Kamla Harris of California, entrepreneur, Andrew Yang Senator Kirsten gillibrand of New York. Former governor John Hickenlooper of Colorado, Colorado, Senator, Michael Bennet, self help author, Marianne Williamson, and congressman, California. Congressman men, Eric swallow, well. Now. Kate, I know you wanted to jump back in a on the issue of Trump being sort of the, the greatest challenge for the country. What are your thoughts on hearing that last night? Yeah. I just want to disagree with what was said before I kind of appreciated that they didn't talk about Trump as much as I thought that they were going to, because I think that it's just something that's a little bit stale in the minds of people who you know, we consider ourselves Republicans, or former Republicans are sick of hearing. Oh, you know, Trump is bad Trump is bad Trump, as bad, like we wanna hear specific policy ideas that they have for the future and hear about them as candidates. I think it's kind of a cheap shot at this point. Say oh, you know, we need to we need to stop Trump. You know everyone agrees with that, if they're gonna vote democrat. So I'd rather hear about the actual, you know, facts and policy, and the, the bottom line of the candidate. Dates instead of just, you know, I think trying to score political points in cheap way, Rachel wrote on our Facebook page. If Bernie Sanders cannot commit to being a registered democrat. Why should any registered democrat commit to him? I'm open to listening to any democrat at the Democratic Party debates to fair to paraphrase Sohn's a stark uncle Bernie, please sit. That's a pretty good clapback. No, I mean, I think this is something that, you know, Hillary Clinton supporters and other people were very pointing out in two thousand sixteen was that, you know, he is an independent and sort of what was you know, what is his loyalty to the party? So I think that I don't know if that particularly will come up in tonight's debate, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see other candidates continuing to make that I'm also interested tonight to see they did it last night. Of course with, you know, having the candidates, raise their hands of where they are on, on Medicare for all, and abolishing private health insurance plans. I'm sure that will be asked again tonight. We know that Bernie Sanders will raise his hand who else will join him in that because that's something that I mean, Republicans that I saw on Twitter or got emails from last night, that is something that, that they really think that is dividing issue for them, because we have seen in polling, that, while people may be open to the idea of Medicare for. For all when you take away the private health insurance that drops by about twenty points page very quickly. Who will you be watching closely tonight? Definitely, comma Harris, but also, I'm going to be looking at Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, I kinda do agree with everyone the angle he's going to be going tonight. But you know, I mean I don't know what else to expect an area but I just wanted to kind of hear what those to do have to say tonight. Thank you page Horace is a vice president for the Alabama young Democrats. Thanks for being with us page. Thank you. Jessica Taylor is an NPR political reporter and senior reporter for the cook political report. Thanks, jessica. Thank you. Kate, knock Hazel is a senior at the university of Michigan. Glad you could join us Kate. Thanks much. And Brandon Johnson is the vice chair of the Kansas Democratic Party. Thanks, brandon. Thank you. This show was produced by Amanda Williams and edited by Miranda. Full more special, thanks to across America partners. Michigan radio KM UW in Wichita. WBZ h him in Birmingham, one, a across America is funded in part by the corporation for public broadcasting. To learn more about the collaboration. Visit the one A dot org slash across America. This program comes to you from W AMU part of American University in Washington distributed by NPR. I'm Kimberly Adams of marketplace filling in for Joshua Johnson. Thank you so much for listening. And I'll see you again tomorrow for the Friday news roundup, this is one A.

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Day 966: Democrats hit Trump on trade, immigration, race, and more at third 2020 debate

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Day 966: Democrats hit Trump on trade, immigration, race, and more at third 2020 debate

"Thanks to Lawrence take a welcome to all those viewers joining us at the conclusion of the debate good evening from our NBC News Headquarters in New York Brian Williams along with Nicole Wallace the third the Democratic primary debate has just wrapped up at Houston Texas Southern University among the largest historically black colleges and universities in our nation tonight's was the first debate as you know with this crowded election cycle in which all ten top contenders shared one stage the man it meant that front and Center were Joe Auden Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders finally facing off for the first time an showdown on the most important issue to Democratic voters among the most divisive a divisive topics of the evening in fact was healthcare more on that in a moment but first the night got underway with Senator Comma Harris interest speaking directly to one viewer. Here's what you don't get. What you don't get is that the American people are so much better than this and we know that the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates US regardless of our race where we live are the party with which were registered to vote and I plan on focusing on our common issues are common hopes and desires and in that way unifying our country winning this election and turning turning the page for America and now president trump you can go back to watching Fox News at the center of the stage tonight the front runner and the biggest target of the evening Joe Biden at one point Houlihan Castro appeared to take a swipe at Biden over what Ki- seemed to regard as some sort of senior moment the difference between what I support and what you support Vice President Biden is that you require them to opt in and I would not require them to opt in they would automatically glee be enrolled. They wouldn't have to buy in. That's a big difference because Barack Obama's vision was not to leave ten million people uncovered wanted. Every single person in this country covered my plan would do that. Your plan do not have to buy in do not have to buy. You just said that. He just said that two minutes ago. You just said two minutes ago that they would have Tamiami. You said they would have to buy qualifier forgetting what you what you said just two minutes ago. I can't believe that you said two minutes ago that they had to buy in and now you're saying they don't have to but you're forgetting that may look grandmother who adds no money automatically so you heard the crowd react in real time controversial moment for sure. It'll be interesting to find what's. Sanders said two Biden there between the two men but the accusation from Castro practically calls out for a fact check. It appears that in fact Biden did not say that Americans would quote have to buy into his healthcare policy. Here's what he did say. My health care plan does significantly cut the cost of it launched out of pocket payment. You'll pay a thousand dollars. You'd be able to get into anyone who can't afford it gets automatically enrolled in in the Medicare type option. We have a senator but guess what of one hundred and sixty million people who liked their health care now they can keep it if they don't like it they can leave infighting was the topic on stage and it called about it brought about calls for unity and civility with Mayor Pete leading the charge. This is why debates are becoming on watchable reminds everybody of what they cannot stand about. Washington wearing points against each other can each other and telling each other that your plan your plan look we all that's called the Democratic primary election on Alexa. That's what we're here for election but a house divided cannot stand so so airing a little bit of the laundry publicly on stage tonight. It was interesting. It was as if someone might have told them prior to this event. Here's here's the deal Obama good trump bath and I don't know who that is of the Democratic Party but if you had to stick one headline on this night eight I think we we show the moment that Hulan Castro was the skunk at the Garden Party. I don't think there's an appetite. I think if Joe Biden isn't the nominee if he falls from what have been months and months of months of an enduring lead. This race is not that fluid at the top and I don't think anything that happened tonight. We'll move Joe Biden Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren out of those top three spots. I think the only thing if you're looking for some sort of action or or anyone that could be be in motion after tonight. I think better work who found his voice after the massacre in our past so he still has that voice. He's still spoke with clarity. He he seems to have gained some confidence between sort of matching those moments he he tends to you salty language. I work for John McCain so I find that familiar and refreshing. Some people might not like it still has that sort of clarity that he really showcased after El Paso he had some moments but whether it jostles him out of sort of the bottom of that top ten I don't know and I think pe- Buddha judge was very much on brand tonight. So whoever emerges as the nominee who buddha judge will be named at a very early stage as someone who will be in his cabinet because he's just so talented in so likable. Let's go to our man in Houston Texas Chris Matthews in the Spin Room adjacent to the venue tonight Chris. What was the view from their home. Well you know I thought I agree with everything to call said I thought that the evening began with calls for unity a very strong call by Amy Klobuchar for unity. I'm not intending to be president for half the American people but before all the American people there was a pushback against hard ideology of the Democratic Left that was a theme for a while but then I thought some of the strong ideologues that people have strong agendas like Warren and Bernie Sanders were very clear where they stand certainly medicare for all no more private insurance absolute position on that Bernie Ernie in her competed on paying off all the student loans and then also in an ideological sort of purity tests Beta came along and said he's going to not just buyback back automatic weapons the semi automatic assault rifles but demand that they sell them back. I don't know where you get away with that. I noticed calmly talk about an executive order. This'll be extraordinary Harry ruling by the Supreme Court that would allow a president use executive orders to demand the end of ownership by automatic weapons semiautomatic assault assault weapons. I think these are three or four cases of extreme ideological positions but generally I thought there was a pushback on that stage against a hard left. I heard heard a lot of calls for unity. I thought it was a lot more pushback on all out healthcare Medicare for all without any health insurance from the private sector after I thought there was a lot of pushback did that wasn't there before and on border issues fascinating. 's last time around. I think it was to debate cigar. One debate and go people talking about certainly Castro was about decriminalizing illegal border crossings none of that tonight very careful and by the way I'm glad you scored it against Castro and the issue shoe up attempted to blame the guy having Alzheimer's. I think that was a cheap shot. The fact is he got his facts wrong and in terms of competency he was the one that risk is positions. You're not by Chris. Matthews I can't help but notice Senator Klobuchar over your right shoulder and we will come as we speak we will come back to you are frequent when viewers know the drill when Chris gets a candidate wired up and ready to go we'll go to Chris in Houston with us here members of our family and our studio Claire mccaskill former the Democratic senator from the great state of Missouri Eugene Robinson Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the Washington Post and joy reed the host of am joy weekends here on Msnbc you see at the big board tonight our national correspondent. Steve Kornacki good evening and welcome to you all senator by dint of your title. We're going to begin with you. work kings or Queens made or destroyed on that stage tonight. What's your headline. I think Castro's hurt I think his he he he. He was trying to swing for the fences. People kept talking about the tension between Warren and Biden the tension. I felt on that stage. Where for the bottom five this was their lack really in some ways their last moment to make a lasting impression to try to get in to the it kind of debate that will probably move the needle some down the line. I'm not sure anything tonight. move the needle except I think Castro offended offended people the way he did that and it won't surprise me if it helps. Biden I totally agree with Clemson for long stretches. The debate to me seem like Biden versus. The fringes Biden versus the out and they were trying to get some sort of purchase. I think thank you understate the damage. That Castro did to himself tonight. you know he lost a lot of support. If he had a lot of support to lose he didn't yet a little support. I I think I think it's basically over you know he. He took a shot. It was it was not a good shot and it and it just really went over like a liberal loon. It was that was that was a bad bad moment for him on. I thought Cory Booker at times sort of looked looked wise and presidential and he sees these big presents himself in a in a in a way that you could sort of imagine an internal election. I think he might have done himself some good tonight. In the debate there are a number of issues. He wasn't pressed on it might have been pressed on they'd be he will be in future debates dates other than that. I didn't see a lot of movement joy. Reid well. You know it's interesting what you said and we actually the senator and I watched the debate together. We should camera that would have been a place to be. We had some fun. They'd have a great time microphone because you running campaigns. You know the likability argument in politics gets thrown at women but when you're running a campaign just having worked on the press and a couple you have to always remember who is likable couple among your opponents in wider likeable and I think that going after Biden is smart in the sense that he is at the top and if you WANNA get top eventually take him on but you have to remember people like Joe Biden Right. Joe Pine is not Donald Trump. WHO's an unlikable figure to most Americans people like Joe Biden. They may not know enough about Joe Biden to know the dings in his the past and when they find them out they may be disappointed but fundamentally Democrats like him and so if you go away and then the other piece Joy Democrats are fundamentally horrified and terrified and totally turned off by criticism of him he emerges the non was the same reason that they're turned off criticism of President Obama there was just an event the last it's not with a lot of young progressive activists who very critical of specific things about President Obama but if you were to come for President Obama they would defend him because President Obama is on their side fundamentally and so I think when you're trying to take out a front runner you don't do it in a way that presumes that people don't like this person that you can go after them in that harsh but I think that that was too harsh on his part the other second tier Kennedy's. I thought better had a great night. This was his night estimates so far because now I can see in him the confidence of not really necessarily carrying if he wins. He just wants to send a message that I think is authentic. Authentic tonight and my last is at warrant. No one touched her and she was strong on foreign policy. She sent a coherent on everything she said about. She had a great night. Does she get enough airtime. No I think no one did it's still two people the same number of people as the other debate. I the go-to but no-one nobody said a word about Senator Harris and I thought she had a great degree night. Attack on trump is exactly exactly yeah. Democrats polls want so that was a mistake I learned down by the way had a good night to did dairies strong Chris Matthews honor and distinction of taking us over the top of the hour normally the eleventh hour tonight our special post post debate coverage and Chris is standing by with the first of our special guest tonight Chris. Thank you hopefully with some crossover appeal until eleven o'clock. I'll be closer than I sent her. Thank you start by setting kind of a keynote you talked about. This is an ideological debate. Many ways especially in the Democratic Left against trump but you talked about you didn't want to be president of half the country to other candidates risk of getting in there and having trump turned into right of the country. It'd be the center arrayed against them and the same old divide from another perspective. That's that's my concern. I WanNa make the point because I'm someone from the middle of the country. I've been able to get things done because of the fact that I have worked on things that matter to people listen to the constituents listen to this country but what I wanted to make also point. I'd like like to have made more of it is that these all ideas are fine but some of them are up in the ivory tower some of them would maybe get one hundred percent score in a college faculty lounge but they're they're not going to be able to get done and they may not even be the right policy as I was pointing out throwing one hundred forty nine million people off their healthcare and for years. I don't think that's old. I think it's a bad idea when you can do the public option and take on pharmaceuticals. I don't support giving three college to wealthy kids which by the away with one hundred percent I know I heard that I that would insert learn said ninety five percent okay that would include the kids by the way of people that cheated to get them in college which is okay so I have about had it with this because I think that what we need to do is start uniting our party uniting our country and you do that by reaching out not just to our base which is fired up but also to independence moderate Republicans who may have voted for Donald Trump and now we're having big second thoughts and and I think what you saw there was a number of us talking about the fact that a house divided as I noted the Abraham Lincoln Quote House divided doesn't stand what's the the risk of a candidate like Warren or Bernie Sanders who are strong ideologues on the issue of structural change this country if they get in there and they're up against a Mitch McConnell and he's got forty seven senators sir. Maybe fifty that frustration. What will they do the American people. I think our main point is not Mitch. McConnell has ideal. I'm really serious about in the way you do that is putting someone at the top of the ticket that can bring in and Claire knows this can bring in independence moderate. Republicans and by the way helps and at least doesn't hurt in those states that we need to win like Colorado Arizona Right. This is what we need to bring to bring back the majority in the auto's. GonNa come here in a few minutes. But what do you call about a mandatory buyback of assault rifles. What is that going to scare the middle of the country as a confiscation proposal social. You know I don't look at it. Politically I just look at what makes sense and what makes sense to me is first of all the things down we have to now universal background check but then moving into an assault weapon ban and the limit magazines and looking at this as volunteering so that is what I think makes sense and I think the candidates up on rid of assault weapons with an Eeo Oh by executive order under the constitution you can do with an executive order is built on actually without Congress to close the boyfriend loophole and you can start the research on gun violence. I think those would be the things you do on your own center. I thought he had a big night tonight. Thank you thank you Brian. Thanks to Chris. Thanks the senator from Minnesota over to Steve Kornacki. Steve specifically on the advanced billing of tonight by some as Biden versus Warren because debates have a funny way of deciding what their personality is going going to be. Yeah I mean this was the matchup everybody had been waiting for. Most people is eight been waiting for after those first two debates we finally saw. Biden finally saw warrant together. They will probably be together and the subsequent debate why it's so interesting not just the fact that Warren has kind of been surging that Biden obviously the front runner the coalitions that each of them represent very opposite sides of the Democratic Party. We can show you. This is going to be a big story. I think going forward look some of the big differences between the first of all on race among white voters. This is the most recent CNN poll Joe Biden's polling twenty. One Percent Warns polling at twenty three percent. That's about the same where there's a big difference between them. Though it's black voters this for Joe Biden Haydn one of his biggest sources of strengthen the democratic race forty two percent nationally. He's pulling right now with Black Voters Elizabeth Warren at ten percent right now in fact ten percent in fact one of the best numbers that were in his head with black voters. White College educated voters right here. Elizabeth Warren is in First Place Among Democrats college educated White voters. She's running at twenty nine percent. Almost doubling up Joe Biden you go down to more blue collar white voters non college white voters there Biden much stronger stronger than Warren. Take a look at this one the age divide Democrats under forty five. They're tied seventeen percent each but how about this forty five and older. Biden support explodes first place among Democrats again thirty percent warrant. She's about the same so biden strength with older voters and there's this ideological divide. We always talk about among among liberal voters. There's Warren Sheen Bernie Sanders right there near the top among liberals Biden Beckett's seventeen percent then you folks who call themselves moderates and Conservatives look at this no big surprise Joe Biden in First Place Warren falls all the way back to twelve percent so so very clear fault lines between Warren and Biden. They mixed it up to the first ten minutes or so the debates. I don't know that the fault lines changed but these are going to be defining I think in the weeks and months ahead the Democratic Race Steve Kornacki. Thanks I'm told Robert. Costa is prepared to talk to US national political reporter for the Washington Post and Bob you in touch with the Mayor Pete campaign because the consensus here in this a studio is apparently shared by them that their guy had a good outing talking to strategists for the South Bend Mayor in top allies they believe he tried to to avoid enemy fire tonight to keep them in a position where he could make a case that he's elevated away from the acrimony and should some of the top tier contenders fall away for for whatever reason politically whether it vice president biden or someone else that he's in a position to win over the center left coalition inside the Democratic Party and what are the folks around Joe Biden saying about what transpired Biden allies texting and call in and they're saying they feel good about tonight because he emerged with some knicks to be sure but relatively unscathed. He apologized for one of his top problems on the campaign. Trail has vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq but he didn't get really. We pulled down into that hour after hour. He was able to make the case that he was. The representative of the Obama Legacy Burqas Diet worked in two thousand doesn't four on the Bush campaign when every one of the more than dozen Democrats came after Bush every time they were together in a stage like that and it took a toll that didn't happen apple pointed attack from Senator Harris think there were about twenty four tax on Donald Trump is still more tax at Joe Biden. Is that what Democrats want in the trump. White House breathing a sigh of relief tonight inside the White House. They do feel at the moment they're getting potshots but not a wholesale case against his administration. When you talk to the democratic campaigns the reason they're not spending so much time going after Senator Warner Senator Vice President Biden and the people at the top if so many of these candidates they say are lingering green in the single digits and they need to introduce themselves in this beginning of the fall campaign season if they want to have a shot hang around in Iowa and New Hampshire to go from five or seven seven percent up into the double digits Robert Costa. Do you promise when news comes in over your phone. You will alert one of our producers. Join US again before we're off the air tonight. It's charged all night. I've went from texting ambassador Bolton earlier. This week did democratic strategist in height. That's what we love about Robert Costa of The Washington Post and Washington Week on PBS. Thank thank you always a pleasure Nicole Wallace. Let's talk about guns and let's talk about about the way. Democrats talk about guns. I also note we have a former senator from the state of Missouri here with US Guns Red Meat Ford F one fifty s if they're looking to get back that democratic voter voter that might have voted for Obama and then went for Donald Trump the blue-collar vulgar voters who are insulted when Democrats come to town and say don't don't worry. You're all going to get green jobs. No they're not. Where are the green jumps. That's not GonNa Happen I. I'm not GonNa take on everything green jobs in Ford but let which is to take on the gun question The gun debate is changing and it started changing with some folks that you've done some incredible interviews with the Parkland Kitson uh-huh and guns are not gun. Control isn't the political third rail for Democrats that it used to be it just isn't and that's why you see Walmart another big retailer taking on GonNa need the trump voter and the pickup driver to shop in their stores. I it just isn't that's the good news for Democrats Democrats. The bad news I think Democrats or the danger is that the positions and in the same goes for for both sides the positions that are most popular that speak to their hearts and their guts and they give voice to the rage that any any parent with a kid younger than seven that comes home and tells them about the drills they did they have have to be quiet and how they're different from the fire drills because they have to pretend that there's no one in a classroom weeps and they're hungry for the kind of red meat that was thrown at them tonight but I think as much as a gun debate is change in May not have changed that much claire mccaskill. It is interesting the Corporate America embarks on their own form of gun control in open carry state saying if you're going to be in our store. We appreciate very much if you'd leave your weapon at home or in your truck yeah I think the confiscation issue is is still close to that third rail but things have changed and one of the things is really changed is the suburbs Republican women in the suburbs suburbs have had enough they kind of looked the other way on the NRA and didn't really now Republican women in the suburbs are going. Are you kidding me. My kindergartner kindergartner is doing drills for shooters We can't even do universal background. Checks the surprise to me on guns tonight. Is that none none of the moderators ask. Bernie Bernie voted against the Brady Bill five times that in this environment in Texas. I was shocked that he was not taken to task for a very you know you. WanNa talk about authorizing force in Iraq right now voting against the Brady. Bill five times is a tough thing burners so I think we want to we want to add to this conversation. The better sound but what's so interesting is to the degree that he tried to paint. Joe Biden is out of step stab on some of the biggest foreign policy questions. Bernie Sanders is out of step on the biggest sort of cultural issue in the country right now and that's and I think a lot of people feel that commit claim that he had been graded f by the NRA and I'm so proud of that and I was like you know lately and you know follow up questions follow question because you voted against the bill and if you think about you know play a little skewed Steve Kornacki supernet you for a moment if you look at where Donald Trump is with working class is white women. He's barely breaking even or slightly underwater depending on the poll and this if you wanna think of the voter those suburban moms because look it's not even just people with kindergartners. Mike is my youngest is nineteen. They were doing them in Florida and having lived in two states where a lot of people. I've Gone Colorado and Florida. I can tell you that the way the gun debate is changes at MOM's have had those Parkland kids had such a profound effect on this debate and that that that that effect is lingering and a lot of Democrats are going to vote specifically on gun reform so even though Beto people may be alarmed at the things he was saying the passion and the sincerity surety of saying no more no more having our kids afraid to. I've had kids afraid to go to the movies and I've experienced that sporting events. Let's watch that bedroom yeah. If it's a weapon that was designed to kill people on a battlefield the high impact high velocity round when it hits your body shreds everything inside of your body because it was designed to do that so that she would bleed to death on a battlefield and not be able to get up and killed one of our soldiers when we see that being used against children and in Odessa I met the mother of a fifteen year old girl who was shot by a Ar fifteen mother watched her bleed to death over the course of an hour because so many other people were shocked by that Ar Fifteen in Odessa and midland there weren't enough ambulances is to get to them in time hell yes. We're going to take your fifteen. Ak Forty seven that is the gun issue and not show and that's where their hearts are just to your point sure that's where their heads are. It's Bay. I mean for the base there that is so frustrated and part of this is the frustration of Mitch McConnell. I mean the notion that these Republicans I it's political malpractice that they are are just lingering over this bill and not bringing something up for a vote waiting for the president to bless it jewel the other. They're not willing to ban guns right and look. I mean where you lived where I lived. Everybody had guns. Nobody likes nobody Ashley Fifty. No one hunts with those guns. Everybody knows that and I think it's actually useful to have beto stakeout that position. We're GONNA take your guns. It may not be great for for his campaign may or may not but that makes a voluntary buyback sort of the middle of the road moderate position that we can all come together standing to say that you know does the most recent mass shooting in Texas he was in El Paso and I think I said this before for not just the base- Yep just two people that were I think this is becoming the mood in the idea that any Democrat or that the party would suffer because a position on gun seems ludicrous when the facts are Mitch McConnell Donald Trump right holding up gun control and you had better go to a gun show and sit there and talk to people the People that I've known that have ar fifteen mainly collectors. They're not normally people who are out there shooting deer with them and so the idea that you're not I mean unless there are people who are extremists or stalking walking them up in their apartments which is a whole another matter most reasonable gun owners who may even be collectors with those kinds of weapons can have a conversation about the fact that they don't want any. Tom Dick and Harry stockpiling them in their apartment and then carting them off to Walmart because they're angry at an employer. They just don't like Brown people so I think we the whole gun. Debate is changed. It's about Mitch McConnell and Republicans refusing to have even a sane normal discussion about guns. That's moved the gun debate and as I always say on guns and the environment it could be what we saw with gay marriage the most fast the fastest moving issue of our adult lives because the American people have a funny way of deciding what is important important to them and then when they decide it sort of builds and builds and builds and then they're done and I know that we're there but I think we're we're going to take the first break in our coverage. Ridge when we come back yet another entrance from the stage tonight we'll be with our own Chris. Matthews in Houston Texas are live continuing post debate coverage. We'll be back after this look. This is the United States of America. There's never been a single solitary time. We've set our mind is something we're not able to do it. Walking around their heads down like Whoa is me for the best equipped nation in the world to take this on. It's no longer time to postpone. We should get movie. There's an enormous enormous opportunity once we get rid of Donald Trump hey. MSNBC listeners. It's me Chuck Rosenberg this week on the oath I sit down with lead nine eleven prosecutor Rob Spencer when needed to treat this as a regular murder case except with nearly three thousand victims rob was the lead prosecutor in the trial of Zacharias Moussaoui the Nine Eleven conspirator and the only member of Al.. Oh Qaeda ever to be tried in a US courtroom we're able to give even our avowed enemy who told us at trial that could come back and kill every one of us a fair trial join me for that conversation with Lead Nine Eleven Prosecutor Rob Spencer. That's this week on. MSNBC's the oath available now wherever you get your podcasts. The president clearly has no strategy you know when I first got into this race. I I remember president trump scoffed and said he'd like to see me making a deal with Xi Jinping. I'd like to see him making a deal with Xi Jinping. Is it just me or was that supposed to happen in unlike maple one of the better moments from Mayor Pete on the stage tonight. He is standing by with Chris Matthews in Houston Chris. Thank you Ryan Pete. Maybe I'm allowed to rape feet tonight. I thought I thought you both made a very restrung opening appeal for unity and sort of quaint admonition. Let's not go so far that even if we win we divide the country the I'm not out to scold skuld anybody but when I talk about plans that can bring us together. I'm not just talking about how we can win an election. I'm talking about how we can govern the country. We are dangerously divided polarized as a nation and bold progressive reforms can be done one of two ways. We've got to do it in a way that actually brings people together. It's the central idea behind my strategy of Medicare for all who want it. The biggest thing we've done to healthcare in America since Medicare itself was created but it doesn't order people off of their plans when they're not necessarily ready to do that. It's my approach on on education which is more bals else mixture that we only make promises we can keep. We've got to make sure that we prepare for the fact that in a post trump world trump is is still going to be going on and a lot of Americans especially especially in the Republican Party figures out what it's going to be are going to look to the presidency for leadership. This has to be a presidency capable of bringing Americans together not by watering down our values I used by advocating for them in a way that more people can hear from rural Americans to voters of faith people in my part of the country who absolutely should be supporting progressive policies but aren't going to who if we keep shaking our finger at them and tell them they're voting against their interests anytime they don't do it Arwa. The healthcare issue is huge in eighteen and now it seems like we may find a practice with the Republicans are empty handed. They don't have a replacement for obamacare. The Supreme Court may knocked out obamacare. Does that create an opening for compromise to restore it better obamacare. Republicans who are left empty-handed right now yeah. I think what we've learned. Is that if you actually take the perspective how this is GonNa Affect People's lives is they couldn't dismantle obamacare openly because the American people didn't want that but the American people right now want more. They want to know they're going to be okay. They don't care about the technical specs of our plants. They weren't going to affect them and too. Many people are underinsured or they're paying too much out of pocket. Maybe they're okay on coverage. Overall prescription drugs are out of control if we we don't have a comprehensive answer for that. I think both parties could be could be rejected in the future. You know a great very successful governor of New York George Pataki once said don't get so far or head of the parade that you can't hear the music and I wonder if the Democrats did that tonight on guns because I didn't think the country's totally aboard with background checks but you go ahead to confiscate mandatory buybacks has gone too far tonight. What better was talking about Roy. Yeah we have a chance. Finally we have an opportunity to actually have this different watching that station not just background checks red flag laws doing something to disarm domestic abusers even an assault weapons ban on new sales that is huge because even though we've been talking about it for years. It's just been toxins since I was in high school in Columbine. Shooting happened this time we could actually do it even here in Texas the Lieutenant Governor. Who's pretty nutty on these issues has come out and for somebody like Kim to support some of these measures we really. He wants to be governor. Well we got to act fast because if the president had to at least temporarily pretend to be for commonsense gun laws that means that we've got an opening. Let's jump through that opening. Get something done save lives and if there's more we can do later. Let's have that debate later. You're the only guy running for probably person running for president the democratic side or either side. It's got military back when you were in Afghanistan now tonight. I thought they didn't quite get it when you said it was your position. What is your position opponent all the troops. I think that we've got to put an end to this conflict. Look bring all the troops home through the bottom line in the north star of this. This thing has to be keeping Americans safe. I think we can do that without an open ended ground commitment now that doesn't mean that we completely zero out any kind of special operations presence or intelligence we have that in any number of places around the world but what it does mean is we've got to work our way out of this conflict before it gets into its twentieth year how many troops in that country just to get factual here to stop them from engaging in terrorist supporting al-Qaeda and how many troops did he nearby or in-country. Stop that kind of support for terrorism which is what got us into that part of the world. I think minimal special OPS and intelligence presence will allow us to do that once we have worked our way out through a how many how many troops going to give you a number tonight. I'm going to tell you that it's dramatically less than we have now. I thought it was one of the last guy when I left and that was years. Now we still have numbers that are comparable to what we had that but ground troops basically out. That's right. Thank you. Thank you Brian Mayor Peak great great night tonight good night. Thank you thank you very much. Here's what we're GONNA do on our way to Steve Kornacki. We're going to stop and talk to Senator mccaskill senator. It strikes me that that's a unique politician because of two things on his bio. Oh Yeah he's a Rhode Scholar and Oh yeah he is a military veteran both of which were kind of combined on display tonight and he's really kind of the only candidate on that stage is that other than Yang who can legitimately claim outsider status and that's a big deal notice. He got in there a couple of times well. That's why people are so frustrated with Washington. I also think his line in the healthcare the opening of this debate around healthcare I think crystallized the healthcare debate unlike it had been crystallized is before and I think when he said it really helped Joe Biden when he said I trust Americans to make a choice. That's the essence of this debate are. Are you going to give Americans a choice. Are you going to say the government's going to decide for. You and you cannot have insurance at work. I think as this goes goes along. Bernie and Elizabeth are going to have problems because there's a whole lot of Americans out there in both parties that won here that their government from at trust them to make a choice absolutely Steve Kornacki as promised a little something about Joe Biden the front runner. Yeah we just take a look you know Biden of course entered tonight's debate. He as the leader on the democratic side likely still will be when the Poland comes out after this. We will see we're asking here. Though is he a fragile front runner. It's for two reasons one. You know his national poll numbers. He's the leader in the high twenties. Maybe the low thirties we've seen in the past that are higher but the other big challenge for Biden that we're starting to see what the polling now it has has to do with the calendar. Remember of course there are four contests four standalone contests in the first month the Democratic race they start. They have that very quick turnaround eight days between between Iowa New Hampshire then they go Nevada South Carolina in those first. Four contest are all about winnowing the field. You'll get those results from Iowa. The national polls change overnight the the New Hampshire polls change overnight the winner rockets off the loser is in trouble in this is the challenge for Joe Biden and this is why we ask if he's a fragile frontrunner check out the latest polling we have the CBS YouGov poll here in Iowa Biden's leading right now. He's margin over Sanders in this poll. Just three point single digit get deficit. They're down to Elizabeth. Warren and you've got three candidates. They're popping in the double digits. You think of that type of electric you have an Iowa more activist more liberal types of candidates who've done they're done well there before sanders sanders war and could pose a real challenge to Biden there in Iowa and then think about that if a warren or if a sanders knocked off Biden Iowa normally the winner gets to bounce. I say normally the loser starts to have some issues there in the polling in think about that eight day gap and what comes next New Hampshire in who our next door neighbors in New Hampshire Elizabeth Warren Massachusetts Visit Senator Boston Media Market Southern New Hampshire Bernie Sanders Vermont next door neighbor got sixty one percent in the twenty sixteen New Hampshire primary the prospect exists in by by the way the polling in New Hampshire. Look at that one point here in this poll Warren Biden Sanders and so the issue there is if you're biden and you don't win Iowa and especially if you lose to warrant or you'll lose it to sanders you are in danger of going. Oh for two in with the exception of Bill Clinton in ninety two and that's a big exception because Iowa didn't really count that year no no democratic nominee has ever gotten the nomination without winning one of the first to continue that Nevada not after that also not guaranteed go back to you Bryan all right Steve Kerr Naji. What happens is then? You're black vote collapse me because Yeah african-american older African voters are just watching. There's not a lot of trust in the General Electric in the in white voters right now among a lot of African Americans so they're waiting to see who wins those two states and if those that support is paper thin you we've you've got Chris Matthews standing by it but I work at a physical reaction to Steve Kornacki questioning like let's get on the record well. I just think everyone is is just going on and on if buying Collapses Win Bible Buying Collapses Fragile. I mean all of this stuff. He has been the one in the crosshairs from the beginning of this race and he has withstood all of these attacks in. I don't think tonight I think Quick Castro did to him. We'll help him. I think he seemed presidential. I don't think he's GonNa move after tonight so we'll see maybe I'll be all I would add is that I worked for the president said Izzo Children Learning in one twice so I with you event family elevate. We've got to elevate. Let's little tonight and then we'll go to Chris Matthews who has him. That's what the bitterness the pettiness the smallness of the moment the incentives to attack one another and try to make differences without distinctions mountains out of molehills. We have to be bigger. We have to see clearly. We we have to speak honestly and we have to act decisively. That's what I WANNA do for you. As president of the United States thank you well here we are did you think tonight's was an example of. Democrats with gauge of a positive way or was it nasty. I didn't think it was particularly particularly nasty. I think we've got to talk about the issues that matter most to those whom we WANNA serve. We talked about climate. We talked about guns. We talked about race in America Racism Awesome in America the the wars without end that we want to bring to a close. I thought it was a good conversation. You think you're calling from Texas toy and cash turn you think it was fair to suggest Joe Biden has lost it. No that wasn't fair. I didn't like that. Let me ask you about guns. You know the consensus in the country seems to be good on background checks. You went further. No somebody has to go further in fact Jean Rob's just said he gives you credit for this on the panel tonight he says by maybe by pushing for mandatory buybacks of assault weapons which are very graphic about describe the horror of what they do the human body. I thought that was very powerful. He says that might move the center of gravity towards maybe something close to you think there's a chance that we could have a supreme court. Roy after Heller our than said. Did you have an individual right to a gun. Forget about about militias and all that stuff in the constitution that you could actually have a supreme core growing allowing the governor. United I states the federal government did demand the selling of assault rifles back to the government feasible legally yeah I do. I think the precedent cendant and common sense is pretty clear on this that none of our rights are absolute that there are some common sense limitations to them. You can't own a grenade launcher Zucca or or drive a tank down the street and I think we now understand that these. Ar Fifteen thousand AK forty seven's not only have been used as weapons of war communities but as long as exist in our communities. They are instruments of terror. Our kids are afraid of them. Talk to my fellow residents in El Paso many of whom feel like they have a target on their back right now. We've finished one of these march for our lives at these students organized no Paso Henry my eight year old on my shoulders and we get to Santo Plaza is a two guys with an ar fifteen each weekend for my son's like dad what what gives I thought we were just marching against and I said Oh don't pay them any mind. They'll give him any attention but what I should've said no henry. That's absolutely wrong. No one should be able to come here and try to intimidate you and scare you and so we got in that two weeks ago. The New York Times led a very liberal paper trail page saying there too many too many assault weapons in the American in the hands of the American people right now to get rid of to try to stop this with bans on sales. It's hopeless basically your view. There's just too many of them. They're absolutely right right or wrong. They're right that there too many of those weapons out. They say it's hopeless to stop. Stop the traffic all know now when we're hopeless and we're not going to make progress and then we've given up on are going to say even stopping the sale of the would be enough to stop the danger of because there's so many in the hands of the bad people there's where we agree. I think if you if you think that air fifteen. AK47's are inherently dangerous should not be sold then you would also have to agree that there for more than ten million of them out there in the United States and they are going to be used some of them against us. Take our kids take our families threaten threaten people in the Walmart or a church or a mosque and a synagogue and so you've got to take that next long jetty carry on this fight to matter what happens to this hop -solutely this is a cause for you yeah yeah and I'm inspired a lot of folks talked about the NRA tonight and there are a big problem but the NRA is no match for moms demand action or March. They have been no not anymore. No no the power is with people as my friend cory will say the powers with people and those people are rising right now. Hope hope open doors choice. That's very very strong support here by this former congressman for buying back to weapons of mass destruction base of these Arab Seventeenth Air Fifteenth and I think it's going to be one hot issue in the Papers Tomorrow Bribes Gentlemen thank you both you've given us a lot to talk about which we will do right after we take a quick break. Our live coverage continues right after this as long as Washington is paying more attention to money than it is to our future we I can't make the changes. We have to attack the corruption head on so we can save our planet. If I am president of the United States we will create an office in the White House to deal with the problem of white supremacy and hate crimes and we will make sure the systemic racism is dealt with in substantive plant the only resident of Newark New Jersey in the race for President One of two New Jersey senator's cory booker standing by with Chris Matthews's chiefs search great to have you on an I. Ruminate about the selection and you guys women. You're on the front line so I sometimes wonder you're arguing. Point five point with trump may not be the way I think you're close to the way which is the moral question. Who are we in our souls in this country. I couldn't agree more and your thoughts. I know that this is a referendum. Anonima One guy one office but on who we are we're GONNA be to each other and even cast this in a partisan light. I know we're we're getting more and more into tribalism this country but the values of this nation we have. I have to admit from how we deal with the stranger to how we deal with the poor. Does work have dignity. These are larger questions. Should you be able to go out and buy a weapon weapon of war without a background check. These are things that actually when you pull America's independent party we're altogether on or we're not manifesting it in our politics and that's is to be a problem right now. That's what we have to face. You and I know you're younger. Maybe you know the kids today. I mean people aren't twenties early twenties. My daughters orders my kids. They have gotten so far along on race so far. They don't even have a personal car day. It would be like a big deal yes or you'd find your kids. Their parents come home and you'll notice there's some African American kids in the group. No deal no surprise yeah and that has really changed is trump getting rid of that taking us back to where it was an issue of race all the time. I don't think he can because young people are too strong but he's definitely trying to. He is definitely preying upon divisiveness pitting US S. against each other and to beating degrading people because of the I think that's reached the white to be so the way we talk like South Africans like whites in the burbs. They seem to be turned off to the language of this president. I think enough to turn this election is a saying where I think hope is the active conviction that despair will never have the last word the most inspiring for me in this election time and time again is to meet Americans who reject him and Republicans come to my town halls since I'm here because you're talking about love. You're talking about what binds us. You're not demonizing people because a political party I really people love is not a political strategy. I'm with you yeah. I really think it is and I think it's the most fearsome tough strong emotion that we can talk about. Patriotism is love of country. You cannot love your country unless you love your fellow countrymen and women and that's not a sentiment so sentimentality it says hey if you have injustice in your family. It's a threat to the justice of my family. That's where she other way because I was in North Philly Prospect Park Mark North broad a tough neighborhood. We're all the poor people came up from south success and all that they cheered for when Obama spoke to them back when he was running away was unity. Let's get together in welfare. They didn't want anything. They just went except us. Let's be together so power. Guy Lives in. I'm the only person in this race and the Senate lives in low income black and Brown community and one thing you come to my community and you come from a different background but a working class area. You're gonNA find more philly yeah. You'RE GONNA find common in court. You know people don't want. They want a fair shake. They want a job. The pace figured me out working class. Thank you okay. We'll we'll talk about that really middle middle. I'm really great tonight. Thank you Brian. We got somebody else coming up in a minute. Thank Chris thank you senator and to Nicole Wallace a question that Buddha the judge raised. What about trumpism post trump look. It's a question for both parties. I mean I think the Republicans have been asked an answer but it should be part of these conversations and I think that's why he's such an important figure in the race. I think that's why Beto pushing the envelope on guns and sort of getting to your these debates as you said with with the same sex marriage they always move slowly for a while they feel intractable for awhile and then they move really quickly and I think it's reassuring. I think that you know Democrats seven really eager to see this contract. I think there's a purpose for just about everyone on that stage there he goes out takes the left hand side exactly. I think I think the range of us is is really interesting. They do agree on more than they disagree on but it's it's like a policy seminar now if that riveting to people to watch idol and I think it's very useful for the party and you know this is a point which should bring back up comal hair by the way we have to do a shout out to tsu home of marching band and she's the only one who owns marching bands apparently no one else do it but he really was the one person who from her opening to the end was really focused on Donald Trump and that is one of the things that I think has been lacking a bit in these debates that they're focusing on each other and fighting each other but she it was actually very intentional about saying no my opponent is him and then I'm GonNa keep calling him out. I think the challenge for Cory Booker is the love argument might work in general but in the primary Democratic Democratic voters want to fight Democratic voters. Don't WanNa love love bomb the Republican base they WANNA fight them and they WANNA fight. TRUMPISM and trump is I think as has explained I think by Beto very well and I think as explained by commonly Harris very well is dangerous. It's dangerous to people who look like us. It certainly dangerous to people who look Kellyanne Castro and I think they were the ones who are able because they are people of color. There in the eye of sorrow is focused on us and I think if we're talking about trump is miss something that you can love away way. I think you're losing a lot of the base and by the base you just saw Steve say it's black women and so I think about what this is the first debate with a black woman on that moderating table. What are those voters going to take out of tonight and I think that I thought it was smart for Comma here now. My focus is him and on ending trump. Is I think Beto did that. I think Leon did always give me so many things I wanNA follow up with you on cholera also told a story yes from the beginning to the end and I don't know I'm not dissing men here but women prepare differently away for big moments on the presidential stage. The Elizabeth Warren prepares differently than Joe Biden. Calvin Harris prepared differently than any of the states. She told she had a story. Sorry for the first time she opened her mouth to even some of the funnier moments about the guy behind the curtain is really really really really small. I mean she told a story. which do you think was more effective? The fact that comma went after trump over and over again or that Biden Brock Obama had a great debate tonight. It's very good debate. Tonight and standing center stage was in fact Barack Obama. I'm I'm GonNa talk about him a lot. I'm going to defend him. I'm going to say I stood with him. Who who was more of is it better for the basis. I totally legally with you. Yeah Black Women are the base of the Democratic Party for Black Women. Is it better to be all about Obama or is it better to be against since trump. I think it's both there was just a poll that was commissioned by essence magazine with the Black Woman's roundtable and the number one issues. That black woman cited in that poll. SUPPO- about twelve hundred people racism and racial violence was at the very top healthcare was not the top thing and so there's a lot of fear out there that this country is dangerous to live in for our kids for ourselves for our husbands and it's a dangerous place so listen defending. President Obama's should be the minimum requirement everyone out there. Did it tonight but I think what Comal Harris did going going after trump. I think it's much more important right now because I'm super plugged in. I happen to know COUPLA. Harris can hear us. Let's show her on stage before we hear from her live live with Chris Matthews. Let's talk about the fact that Donald Trump came into office and spent almost the entire first first year of his term trying to get rid of the affordable care act we all fought against it and then the late great John McCain at that moment at about two o'clock in the morning killed his attempt to take health care millions of people in this country but let's focus on the end goal if we we don't get Donald Trump out of office. He's going to get rid of all of it. Chris Matthews Comma Harrison Houston Chris. We've got our center Kamla the harass you did set the keynote tonight. I thought with your directing the focus of the night morally on trump world all that is what why did you decide to do that to say instead of debating your opponents about who's got who's got that say no trumps the bad guys because he is and and that's why. I'm in the race and that's why everyone on the stage. I believe is in the race. There is so much that has yet in this campaign gene to be explored to disgust analyzed and and really articulated about the just all of the details of the the failures of the trump administration. There's so much there. Chris and you know part of the frustration that did I hear when I'm out on the road. be it Iowa or Nevada. They were California Michigan is that people know that there is so much wrong that is happening with the administration from what just happened recently in terms of deregulation elation of chemical and fossil fuel industries that relates to pollution that is not being discussed and I I hope to help encourage us to have that conversation the American people have a right to know and and we to be responsible in this campaign I think must discuss what is wrong with the status quo which is why we are asking for change. I liked it so much couple things. She said we're trading state California. You believe in trade trey but when you said how the sky has changed in Los Angeles because I used to write about this. I was reading about a twenty years ago going into Los Angeles and this Martian atmosphere was yellowish Brown. It was not it sky and I said even as rich Hollywood stars they go out in front of the swimming pools and looking up at this crap in the sky and you said we the American people got rid of that. That's right and this is why I have so much optimism to be honest with you. We have to be honest. We have to be truthful. We have to be clear eyed about what's wrong but there is so much in terms of good reason to know what we are capable of achieving and and for me this election is about you know the obvious point that we need to not have another four years of Donald Trump. We need to turn the page but so much of this campaign for me and the election is about then writing the next chapter your of our country based on an America we believe in an America where we do have blue skies in America. Where we're we're not worried about? Our children going to school in an enduring a drill when they learn about how to hide in the closet because of a mass shooter there is so much work that is achievable achievable and that's how I think about the task before us but I do it with. A sense of optimism clear eyed the problems but optimistic about what we're capable of. Something's amazed me. I'm surprised that you haven't gone up. You went very good English. You went up quickly after you went after Biden in the first debate then you settle back. You didn't have them in the second half of this. I think performance tonight it's going to be much more positive more but you still took a question from one of the moderators about basically it was it seemed to be a shot of why aren't you support among the black community that seemed to be the same you were too much the prosecutor in California and you came back without with a lot of facts yeah. Is that going to work a factual argument against that resistance from the black community. The black community like every community wants to hear the facts and and so I I have a responsibility to certainly clear the record especially when there are distortions but bed pressure look. I'm running for president event. It's not going to be given to me. I gotta earn it and I'm going to have to take the hits only African American in the top four five yeah and so you should be doing better. You're I'm still introducing myself to the American people you. WanNa talk about landlords trying to figure out why it's not happening but Chris look those of us who are on the top tier. D- have been two of them run for President before one many times the others have been on the national scene for quite some time so if you want to believe the polls though you should also now that the polls have been very clear that on a head to head match I win against Donald Trump by significant margin so but listen this is an election and this is the beauty of our after earning earning javara breakthrough in South Carolina. Is that it I intend to breakthrough in every state this nation. I intend to compete I intend to earn and the vote of people it will not be given. They're going to have to know about my plans as well as my record and that's why I am working as hard as possible to who cover as much brown and let the American people know that honestly this is where it is so critically important that I intend not only to be a leader that is going to accomplish great things in terms of the challenges that face us but I tend to be a leader who unifies our country and I really I can't stress that enough. You know I started tonight's debate talking about this. This guy has been sewing hate and division among us and I travel our country and regardless of where people even even regardless of the party with which the registered to vote. They want to know that we can unify around our common goals are common problems and our common hopes. Please come on hardball many times I will I once you want okay. Thank you thank you so much. Kamla Harrison did really well tonight. I said it about two other cats but I think she really did. Well tonight back to you. Bryan all all right Chris Matthews and to the senator. Thank you very much. I say anything about the polls because I worked for event three presidential campaigns and there is a difference difference and in that top tier. She's right there. Five Democrats who beat Donald Trump and had to has said polls drove donald trump so bizarre he tweeted more wildly than usual this this week I believe on nine eleven S- another story for another day but but but she is of the top tier other than Mayor Buddha judge she's ahead of him. She's the lease no oh nationally and if you look at the size of crowd on the day she announced in Oakland where she's from she twenty thousand people so where she's known she really does build field support and build enthusiasm so I I take her point. I've been part of spinning polls. That's that's been I mean she really is in a different position than the better known own Democratic candidates in that top tier helping firewall in South Carolina colonists you really if she could you know finish respectably in Iowa yeah well. That would be a big help. I really think she needs to buy doesn't do well in the field is wide open for not. Biden and I really am convinced certified and we'll be a woman because I think the hungry constituency are women and I can tell you black women will think very differently if Guidon does not seem viable combined does not seem viable and then if she could do well in Iowa you could see her really picked up momentum in South Carolina and the final thing on her. I think it's very smart of her to pick up sort of the environmental mantle of California associate herself with Coupla now she was the attorney general wasn't really responsible for the environment but but California is is sort of leading the crusade against trumpism on the environment younger voters care a lot kids. It's their number one. Issue rollercoaster has come back we asked him to. I think we all had phone wanted to know what he knew. He has some breaking news from his sources up on Capitol Hill America here on Capitol. Hill the inside view tonight among top Democratic lawmakers and their aides is pleased with this democratic field but they have some in quiet concern some discontent about the message coming out of this debate. There were talking here on Capitol. Hill about impeachment possibly moving forward with impeachment proceedings. They were looking for more more of an enthusiastic response from these candidates who are leading the party want to lead. The party has the nominee next year and on the issue of gun control. They want to be in control roll here in the Congress. They don't want the presidential field leading the discussion in terms of buybacks they want to talk about background checks red flag laws and so there's a bit of a quiet disconnect connect tonight here at on Capitol Hill among some of the top Democrats as they try to make sure the parties all on the same page Robert. Let's talk about something that is featured on my broadcast Hasta Nicole's broadcast not so much impeachment but how Democrats no two are alike talk about impeachment. Democrats talking about this impeachment issue in a confusing way and that's according to most Democrats you speak with they say they want to be seen as moving forward with the process assists because the base and the Democratic Party is yearning for that but at the same time they know the suburban voters they won in two thousand eighteen. Don't WanNa see a major movement on impeachment until the the process plays out so speaker Pelosi as ever holding this party together but it's a fragile peace Robert Anything else from Democrats as far as that's what they were hoping to hear as opposed to mistakes made on the stage in their view. The most interesting thing I've picked up in the last few minutes is that some of the rival camps are saying Vice President Biden and had a chance tonight to not only escape major screw-up some of these issues but to go after Senator Warren and you saw some of his allies allies this week like former Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell Attacks Senator Warren on the Fundraising Front Vice President Biden avoided that kind of confrontation tonight but that confrontation tation Biden allies and other Democrats say that still looms on the horizon. What is he going to do to confront his chief rival at this time in the coming months Robert Costa worth his weight in gold as a guest on this or any broadcast. Thank you so much as always a quick note to our viewers. When we come back we're going to hear hear from former Housing Secretary Hooghly on Castro he of tonight's a deeply uncomfortable moment according to some on stage when we took a kind of a roundhouse at at Joe Biden so we'll have that when we come back otherwise this is our live continuing post debate coverage the the first stage with all the Democratic Front runners on it tonight more of that when we come back you knew the Press Chuck Todd Cast. It's an insider's take on politics twenty twenty election and more candid conversations with some of my favorite reporters about things we usually discuss off camera. Listen for free wherever you get your podcast.

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Thu. 06/27  The Math, After

Primary Ride Home

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Thu. 06/27 The Math, After

"The primary ride home for Thursday, June twenty-seventh twenty nineteen. I'm your host Chris Higgins today, a show very much about Wednesday's debate. Here's I'm gonna break it up. The big picture about what we saw, and did not see last night, Warren and the show of hands about health insurance Castro's breakout moments. Gabbard breakout moments and debate, bingo for Thursday night, here's what you missed last night from the campaign trail. Last night. We saw the first night of the first debate of this primary cycle that is a big deal. And it gives us a look at what's to come throughout the show today. I will be digging into specific candidates and their notable moments. But I want to start by talking about the big picture, just what happened what didn't happen and why, and he of this matters. So the first thing surprised me was the total lack of Biden. Now, of course, he was not on the stage but he is far and away the front runner in the polls, and before this debate I expected way more candidates, suspend time specifically trying to chip away at him by name, but they did not Biden was kind of non existent in this debate. So why is that well in retrospect, it's pretty obvious? The lower polling candidates needed to spend their time introducing themselves talking about policy and making sure that they are known for something other than opposition to Biden, of course, they're all opposed to Biden nobody needs to say that and away. Biden's absence ended up being a gift for the lower Poland candidates now, whether that dynamic changes tonight for Thursday's debate, let's wait and see. It might be an even more interesting gift. If low polling candidates can come across with strong messages, even with Biden and Sanders as the elephants in the room. All right next up. There is a whole discussion online about the relative amounts of speaking time that each candidate God, now the debate was at many points shouting, match people talking over each other. Everybody going kind of nuts. The candidates seem to see no reason to pay much attention to the moderators, but definitely did have an incentive to try to get followups whenever they could that tactic of essentially jumping in and grabbing control favored, the candidates who used it in part because the first set of moderators really didn't shut things down. When everybody started cross talking instead, they essentially rewarded it by giving people more time now there's one really interesting tactical moment, which is. Win the moderators asked for show of hands around reimplementing, the twenty fifteen Iran, nuclear deal. And Senator Cory Booker was the only candidate not to raise his hand. So, of course, the moderators called on Booker and gave him roughly thirty seconds, most of which he spent talking about how good that twenty fifteen deal was. And then at the end saying he was just open to making an even better deal. This is part of why Booker ended up speaking so much. So here's the breakdown who got the most speaking time in descending order from most tilles, according to around up of stats by vox, by the way, they're a couple different lists loading around. They are similar, but they may swap positions by a few seconds here, there anyway, point being Booker had almost eleven minutes than we had a Rourke Warren Castro club. HR Ryan Gabbard Delaney to Blasi, oh and Inslee with just five minutes despite all the chatter about it online. I'm not sure there's all that much to learn from the speaking time ranking given one night as data point. I'll be curious to see what happens on the second night so we can see whether there's a specific tactic that leads to these kinds of numbers right now, it really feels like to tactics. Candidates would try our one interrupt and or ask for follow ups because the moderator seemed to go along with that. And to if there's ever a show of hands just look around and do what nobody else's doing. More on that in the next segment regarding healthcare, and warrant. Okay. I have just three more. Big picture items. I it was notable to me that the overall field here has moved way way to the left in just the past few election cycles in this field. It is a moderate idea to say that your free college plan only includes free community college. You've got really high polling people in this field talking about all public colleges, going free and arguing about the very. Being amount of major student debt relief. They will offer you also have essentially everyone moving left on immigration, which is a dramatic change from say, a decade ago, next up the technical problems just as the second hour, kicked off the NBC moderators hit a brick wall when there were major audio problems long story short, when Chuck Todd tried to ask. The first question the candidates, literally could not hear him. But we could all hear the mics that were still attached to the previous moderators and were audible, at least to the TV audience Todd and Rachel, Maddow, tried to fix this in real time. But the tex- couldn't handle it. So they threw to an unplanned commercial break by my count. This problem cost them precisely six minutes, and thirty five seconds. Now, I think they skipped or reduced to commercial break later in that our in an attempt to make up for that time. But still, this kind of thing has to really irk the candidates because it really does take away from their time and last up in the segment remember that thing about the podiums lighting up that I mentioned earlier this week. Well, I finally understand that now the podiums were all lit up blue. But when a candidates time ran out the podium turned red. But that read podium didn't necessarily stop anybody from talking. Let's talk about Senator Elizabeth Warren. She went into the night as the front runner in the group by far the best polling numbers, and she came out of it doing just as well. In a text message poll conducted by indivisible voters were asked which candidate impressed them the most, they got six thousand four hundred ninety seven responses and fifty six percent of those chose Warren. Now, this poll is not in any way scientific or controlled, so I would have to put the margin of error at plus or minus one hundred percent, but it is a reasonable indicator of where people who have signed up for text messages from indivisible stand on these candidates. So for what it's worth the second place candidate was Hooghly on Castro with fifteen percent next. Let's read from NBC news analysis by Alex sites walled and Jonathan Allen. They went through each candidate. And here's what they wrote about Warren, quote, her first goal was to do nothing to risk or substantial lead in polls over everyone else on stage. She succeeded, no. No one laid a finger on her in Warren, dominated the early part of the debate. She took a big perhaps calculated risk by coming out for eliminating private health insurance to create a single payer system. But that may help her appeal to Bernie Sanders supporters and quote, yet, so that brings us to a giant moment for Warren in the debate, I'm going to play a clip here that starts with Lester hold asking the question. And then we'll talk again listening who here, what a Bali's their private health insurance in favor of a government run plan just to show hands start out with. Okay. So warrants hand instantly shot up also build a Blasi arrays his hand and no one else did, by the way that's weird because Cory Booker didn't raise his hand, but he is also a co-sponsor of these Sanders Medicare for all Bill which would intentionally destroy private insurance. Go check out the podcast from April twelve if you want more about that plan that show is called all about Medicare for all. So how can you co sponsor a Bill, but not believe in the core premise of the Bill. I don't know. That's a Booker thing for later, I suppose, anyway, then Holt asked Clova char-, who does not support Medicare for all, and it was not a co-sponsor about what he called her incremental position on just adding a public option to ObamaCare. Clo- responded, I think correctly by noting that her position is hardly incremental from the perspective of the previous democratic administration when Barack Obama was working on the Affordable Care Act in the first place, and then the question turned to war. Karen, listen in Senator. Warn you sign onto Bernie Sanders Medicare for all planet, would put essentially everybody on Medicare, and then eliminate private plans that offer similar coverage is that the plan their path that you would pursue as president, so yes, I'm with Bernie on Medicare for all, and let me tell you why I spent a big chunk of my life studying why families go broke? And one of the number one reasons is the cost of healthcare, medical bills, and that's not just for people who don't have insurance it's for people who have insurance look at the business model of insurance company. It's to bring in as many dollars as they can in premiums and pay out as few dollars as possible for your healthcare that leaves families with rising premiums rising co pays and fighting with insurance companies to try to get the healthcare that their doctor, save it. They and their children need Medicare for all solves that problem. And I understand there are a lot of politicians who say, oh, it's just not possible. We just can't do it. It's have a lot of political reasons for this, what the really telling you is they just won't fight for it. We'll healthcare is a basic human, right? And I will fight for basic. So let's analyze that for just a moment. Warren said, quote, I'm with Bernie on Medicare for all end quote. That sounds to me like a direct appeal to Sanders voters, and that is a very practical way for war into continue to chip away at the Sanders block, and bring some of those voters into her column. The other thing is, you know, everything else, she said, this is what Warren does best, she gives a statement of values like in this case, quote, healthcare is a basic human, right? And quote, and also backs it up with an understandable set of policies and practices. And then says she will fight for the common person to implement them in this case. She lays out the business model private insurance. She says that's a bad system when applied to healthcare if it's a fundamental, right? And she is going to fight to fix it. I think that's why Warren is doing so well, when the polls, why she did so well, last night, it is obvious. What she believes and what she intends to do given the opportunity. Next up Houlihan Castro. Now we've talked about Castro fair bit on this show. And to me, he seemed like these single biggest breakout of the night. Meaning if people had not heard of the, on Castro before, well, now they have he managed to get almost as much speaking time as Warren and he focused on immigration policy, which is something we've covered on this show. If you're curious about Castro's immigration policy, just go back in this podcast and find the show for may thirtieth. It's really easy to find because it is called Huli on Castro's immigration plan that show explains. What section thirteen twenty-five is, and that's a term that came up a lot in this debate it also talks about Castro's personal history and gets into his so-called Marshall plan for those Central American countries that he talks about in the debate now, Castro was not just about immigration policy last night. Castro also mentioned reproductive Justice. He gave a shout out the trance community. He called for passage of the ER, a, that's the equal rights amendment, by the way, and he. Said the names of victims of police shootings. He also went straight at Aurore, who is the other Texan on stage reading here from vox roundup by Emily, Stewart, quote, debate viewers. It appears took notice Google searches for Castro spiked by two thousand four hundred percent though. Most of those people were simply searching for who he is. According to Twitter, he was the third most tweeted about candidate and the entire twenty twenty democratic field during the debate just behind senators Elizabeth Warren, and Cory Booker, and quote, I wanna play Castro clip here from segment dealing with immigration and focusing on the recent photograph of the father and his young daughter, who had drowned in a river along the US Mexico border in this clip, moderator, Jose Diaz. Balart speaks. I listen in secondary Castro. If you president today. What would you specifically do? Thank you very much for say. I'm very proud that in April, I became the first candidate to put forward a comprehensive immigration plan. And we saw those images. Watching that image of God and his daughter, Valeria is heartbreaking. It should also piss off. If I were president today. It should spur section if I were president today, I would sign an executive order, that would get rid of Trump's zero tolerance policy. The remain in Mexico policy in the metering policy, this metering policy is basically, what prompted all Scott inva- lady to make that risky swim across the river. They have been playing games with people who are coming in trying to seek asylum at our ports of entry all, Scott, invalid at went to port of entry, and then they were denied the ability to make it asylum claim so they got frustrated and they tried to cross the river and they died because of that on day, once they won't ask do that executive order that would address metering. And then I would follow that up in my first hundred days with immigration reform that honor asylum claims that would put undocumented undocumented immigrants as long as they haven't committed serious crime on a pathway to citizenship. And then we could to the root cause of the issue, which is we need a more chal plan for on dude us and and some. People can find safety opportunity at home, instead of coming to the United States to seek it, by the way, that was more than a ninety second answer, which is well beyond the scope of the debate rules and Castro's podium was blazing. Red for the last thirty seconds. But Diaz Balart did not cut him off now, as I mentioned, the other big Castro narrative has to do with Aurora. They are both from Texas. And they are both seen as viable candidates for a Senate seat in that state in the upcoming election. A work is Harvey a little bit more viable given the he just ran a long and almost successful, Senate campaign for the other Texas seat. There seemed to be a subtext here which was basically. Hey look, one of us is probably going to have to drop out and go run for that Senate seat. Castro came out swinging trying to prove his presidential credentials. If it somehow comes down to which of these men from Texas is the better presidential candidate versus Senate candidate for Texas, Castro definitely made a strong case last night, by the way. I do wanna play you a ton of clips of the various Castro versus a work loehmann's, but then the show would be an hour long. So I guess just look it up. Representative Tulsi Gabbard broke through last night. And that was at once predictable and somewhat surprising. Let me explain Gabbard is a veteran and her campaign is very much about getting the US out of its various wars. So the predictable part, is that yes, she mentioned war quite a bit and showed a real command of those points and policy around that stuff. She was the only veteran on that stage. The unpredictable part here is Representative Tim Ryan didn't seem to get how solid Gabbard is on this particular issue. So he tried. And I would argue failed to confront her on it. So here's the clip of the night. If you're curious about how Gabbard did on her key issue, this starts with Tim Ryan, and then you'll hear Gabbard jump in. And then Ryan tries, again, anyway. Listen in we must be engaged in this must have our State Department. Engage must have our military gauge to the to the extent, they need to be. But the reality of it is this president doesn't even have people appointed in the State Department to deal with these things, whether we're talking. About Central America, whether we're talking about Iran, whether we're talking about Afghanistan, we've got to be completely engaged. And here's why because these flare ups distract us from the real problems in the country. If we're getting a drone shot down for one hundred thirty million dollars because the president is distracted. That's one hundred thirty million dollars that we could be spending in places like Youngstown, Ohio or Flint, Michigan, or read, building building, I'm gonna give you thirty seconds actually jump what he said he arrived. Tell the parents of those two soldiers who were just killed in Afghanistan. Well, we just have to be engaged as a soldier. I will tell you that answer is unacceptable. We have to. Matt ghanistan. We are in a place enough ghanistan where we have lost so many lives, we've spent so much money money that's coming out of every one of our pockets, money that should be going into communities here. Home meeting the needs of the people here at home. We are no better off in Afghanistan today than we were when this war began, this is why it's so important to have a president commander in chief, who knows the cost of ordinance ready to do the job on day one. I am ready to do that job. When I walk into the thing I want to go down. I'm gonna go down the law. I'm gonna go down the line. Here you felt you felt like she was refunding. You get thirty seconds reshaped. I hear what you're saying. I would just say, I, I don't want to be engaged. I wish we were spending all this money in places that I've represented that have been completely forgotten that we were rebuilding. But the reality of it is that the United States is in gauged, the Taliban will grow, and they will have bigger bolder terrorist acts. We have got to have some present, there's towers air long before we came in there. Well, we did you and they want to ghanistan thinking that we're going to somehow squash this Taliban there. Awesome. When we weren't in there they started flying planes into our buildings. So I'm just saying right now, we attacked us on nine eleven all. Well, I guy I understand by many people villa Terry to go, not how the toy piano shop was protecting those people who were plotting against us all I'm saying is, if we want to go in to elections. And we want to say that we gotta withdraw from the world. That's what President Trump is saying, we can't I would love day, now, kind of right now, I'm gonna go Johnny Arabia. I wanna go down. And the other notable moment to me was when Gabbard was asked by moderator, Chuck Todd about her apology to the LGBTQ community after launching her campaign, Gabbard responded in part, quote, maybe many people in this country can relate to the fact that I grew up any socially, conservative home and held views when I was very young, but I no longer hold today. I've served with LGBTQ servicemembers both in training and deployed down range. I know that they would give their life for me. And I would give my life for them and quote. All right. We are running long today. So keep this last story, short, again, the first link in the show notes is to primary ride home debate being the PDF for tonight's debates along with instructions on how to print those cards. If you haven't tried to bait bingo, obviously, I recommend it, it's a way to engage with the debates, especially if you have other folks in the room, like maybe kids, or friends, who haven't been paying that much attention to the primary, and they want an activity to keep them listening for two hours. It's also something you can do on your own and going on Twitter. If you're into the whole Twitter thing, let's you follow along with other people playing you just search the hashtag, P R, H, bingo, you sort that by latest, and you just keep refreshing that you would be surprised by how many people played last night, and how much interaction there was back and forth. He was also a shock to me last night, when multiple candidates managed to cross off one or both of their squares in their very first answers, we'll that happen again, tonight, probably. Not. So, again, I link in the show notes, or if you're not into the whole show notes thing, just go to ride home dot info slash bingo. Well that is it for one percent of the primary ride home? I have been your host. Chris Higgins, you can always find me on Twitter at precisions. I wanna thank everybody who spent time on Twitter last night, talking about the debate and showing off their bingo cards that made me really happy seeing all of you who are engaging with this election, and with one another. I appreciate that. And that was my hope in making this thing in the first place. So thank you, and keep it up next. My debate command center is still standing despite a surprise thunderstorm last night in Portland. That is a genuine rarity like a once a year type of thing and the weather picture, weird night to go there, but good news, the basement did not flood for a change. So I got that go in for me as always thank you for listening. And I will talk to you all tonight on Twitter and tomorrow on the. Show.

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